More of Barack Obama’s Bizzaro World

In the following days we will provide a comprehensive review of the health care debate and proposals (hint: Obama will not be happy with our review), more on corruption (Walpin especially), and the latest events in, and mysteries of, Iran (Why would anyone seek, let alone listen, to Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski? Or Jimmy Carter?)

Two days into the celestial choirs we reviewed the “post-racial, change-tilted, nirvana” we mocked as “Barack’s World”. Two writers have lately weighed in with their version of “Barack’s World” in an attempt to “decode” Obama. We welcome them to the discussion, but really, we decoded Obama rather well and comprehensively starting in 2007 and with our Obama First Principles Catechism so perfectly captured in 5 sentences:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

As succinct and wonderfully on target as our analysis of Obama has been, a certain person has been even better at understanding and describing Obama – and much more brief: Michelle Obama. Michelle summed Obama as a ‘selfish careerist’. Who can disagree? Certainly not us. Kudos to Michelle Obama.

Of course, Obama summed up Michelle rather well too when he labeled her as “cold and ungrateful“. Kudos to Barack Obama.

Aside from us and Michelle (aren’t we a lovely couple?) others are finally coming forward to describe the Bizzarro which is Obama’s World.

Are you confused by all that has changed since President Barack Obama took office in January? If so, you’re not alone. Perhaps, though, this handy guide to Age of Obama “logic” might be of some assistance.

1. The Budget. Wanting to cut $17 billion from the budget, as President Obama has promised, is proof of financial responsibility. Borrowing $1.84 trillion this year for new programs is “stimulus.” The old phrase “out-of-control spending” is inoperative.

2. Unemployment. The number of jobs theoretically saved, or created, by new government policies – not the actual percentage of Americans out of work, or the total number of jobs lost – is now the far better indicator of unemployment.

3. The Private Sector. Nationalizing much of the auto and financial industries, while regulating executive compensation, is an indication of our new government’s repeatedly stated reluctance to interfere in the private sector.

Obama’s business experience is working for Rezko front organizations and getting Rezko money while providing the freezing poor a shovel-full of flowery words. On the budget, Obama loves his trillion dollar slush fund, thinks a job is something to pretend to do while getting money from rich friends, and the private sector he has experienced is well connected political people who get money from the government.

4. Race and Gender. Not what is said but who says it and about whom reveals racism and sexism. For example, an Hispanic female judge isn’t being offensive if she states that Latinas are inherently better judges than white males.

5. Random violence. Some assassinations represent larger American pathologies, but others do not. When a crazed lone gunman murders someone outside the Holocaust Museum or shoots an abortion doctor, we should worry about growing right-wing and Christian extremism. But when an African-American Muslim convert brags about his murder of a military recruitment officer or an Islamic group plots to kill Jews and blow up a military jet, these are largely isolated incidents without larger relevance.

6. Terrorism. Acts of terror disappeared about six months ago. Thankfully, we live now in an age where there will be – in the new vocabulary of the Obama administration – only occasional “overseas contingency operations” in which we may be forced to hold a few “detainees.” At the same time, ongoing military tribunals, renditions, wiretaps, phone intercepts and predator-drone assassinations are no longer threats to the Constitution. And just saying you’re going to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay is proof that it is almost closed.

Obama is the best example of what Dr. King wanted to abolish. Skin color has become more important than content of character. There is no surprise then to see the skin color of criminals become more important than the crime committed. Terror in Obama’s Bizzaro World is just another crime so skin color is most important there too.

7. Iraq. The once-despised Iraq war thankfully ended around Jan. 20, 2009, and has now transformed into a noble experiment that is fanning winds of change throughout the Middle East. There will be no need for any more Hollywood cinema exposés of American wartime crimes in Iraq with titles like “Rendition,” “Redacted,” “Lions for Lambs” and “Stop-Loss.”

8. The West. Western values and history aren’t apparently that special or unique. As President Obama told the world during his recent speech in Cairo, the Renaissance and Enlightenment were, in fact, fueled by a brilliant Islamic culture, responsible for landmark discoveries in mathematics, science and medicine. Slavery in America ended without violence. Mistreatment of women and religious intolerance in the Middle East have comparable parallels in America.

We have been wondering what happened to protest demonstrations against the Iraq war and against wiretaps, renditions, and all the other evils of the Bush W. years? Where are the demonstrations against these horrors now that it is a Dimocrat in control? Were the protests a cynical attack on George W. not actual concern about the issues? Where are the demonstrations?

9. Media. The media are disinterested and professional observers of the present administration. When television anchormen and senior magazine editors bow to the president, proclaim him a god or feel tingling in the legs when he speaks, it is quite normal.

10. George W. Bush. Former President Bush did all sorts of bad things to the United States that only now we are learning will take at least eight years to sort out. “Bush did it” for the next decade will continue to explain the growing unemployment rate, the most recent deficit, the new round of tensions with Iran and North Korea, and the growing global unrest from the Middle East to South America.

Big Media is fortunately dying. Tim Russert’s death might be the symbol of the great Big Media corruption picking its last pocket. The continued worship of Obama speeds up the death of Big Media and if bowing to Obama and having to suffer through Chris Matthews’ tingly legs is the price we must pay to watch the great dinosaur thrash in the tar pit – it is a price worth paying.

Doubtless George W. Bush is sufficiently patriotic to take a beating by Big Media if it contributes to the death of Big Media. George W. will be blamed by Obama for everything and Big Media will protect Obama but in the end Americans will see the protection for what it is and the death of Big Media (warning: in its current form) will be hastened.

Peter Wehner of Commentary Magazine also weighed in on the Obama decoding:

I recently devoted a piece to trying to decode President Obama. In reading more of his comments, I’ve noticed a tendency that now almost qualifies as a reflex: the more strongly the president denies something — and especially, the more he mocks his critics and feigns amusement at what they say — the greater the odds are that he will do what he denies.

In an interview yesterday, the president said, “I think the irony … is that I actually would like to see a relatively light touch when it comes to the government.”

Of course; examples of his “light touch” abound during the first five months of his presidency.

During his press conference discussing his first 100 days in office, Obama said, “And that’s why I’m always amused when I hear these, you know, criticisms of, ‘Oh, you know, Obama wants to grow government.’ No. I would love a nice, lean portfolio to deal with, but that’s not the hand that’s been dealt us.”

Why would anyone think Obama wants to “grow government”? Isn’t it clear by now he wants to limit it?

It was Shakespeare who coined “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” “By “protest,” Gertrude doesn’t mean “object” or “deny”—these meanings postdate Hamlet. The principal meaning of “protest” in Shakespeare’s day was “vow” or “declare solemnly,” a meaning preserved in our use of “protestation.” When we smugly declare that “the lady doth protest too much,” we almost always mean that the lady objects so much as to lose credibility. Gertrude says that Player Queen affirms so much as to lose credibility. Her vows are too elaborate, too artful, too insistent.”

The lady in question is Barack Obama.

While speaking at a town hall forum in New Mexico last month, Obama insisted that the “long-term deficit and debt that we have accumulated is unsustainable.”

They are, and they certainly seem to be a primary concern of the president, who is clearly doing everything humanly possible to reduce the deficit and the debt.

At a June 1 White House Press event, Obama asserted, “What I have no interest in doing is running GM.”

Why would he even need to say that? Why would anyone think he wants to run GM?

During a health care event in Green Bay, Obama said: “And the reason [he supports his so-called “public insurance option”] is not because we want a government takeover of health care — I’ve already said if you’ve got a private plan that works for you, that’s great.” And speaking to the AMA, Obama said, “Health-care reform is the single most important thing we can do for America’s long-term fiscal health.”

It is; and we all know Obama is doing everything he can to oppose a government takeover of health care.

What Obama says and what Obama does are usually in conflict.

During his presidential campaign, Obama ridiculed those who said he was interested in reading Miranda rights to terrorists. During a “60 Minutes” interview with Steve Kroft, Obama was emphatic: “Now, do these folks deserve Miranda rights? Do they deserve to be treated like a shoplifter down the block? Of course not.”

No-sir-ee; such a thing would never happen on his watch.

Here’s the thing, though: in every one of these instances Obama is not only doing something different than what he said, he’s doing very nearly the opposite of what he says. Obama’s “light touch” is turning out to be as intrusive a set of actions by the federal government as we have seen. He is “growing government” in record-shattering ways. Facing a staggering deficit and debt, Obama has decided to hit the accelerator rather than pump the brakes when it comes to federal spending. Facing a deficit and debt he calls unsustainable, Obama is adding trillions to them. He actually is running GM. He really is trying to engineer a government takeover of health care. His health-care plan may be the single worst thing he could do for America’s long-term fiscal health. And his Justice Department has acknowledged that FBI agents have read terrorist suspects their Miranda rights.

Wehner is a Clinton hater who thinks Obama speaks exceedingly well. We disagree with him on both counts. Wehner was one of the fools who thought “Obama, whatever his political ideology, would bring intellectual integrity to his words and his tenure“.

Now, fools like Wehner realize what fools they have been about Obama and someday they will realize how wrong they have been about Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Wehner concludes about Obama and Americans: “But I imagine that it will catch up with him sooner or later — and when it does, the man who promised to be the antidote to cynicism will only deepen it.”

We don’t think being realistic equates with cynicism.

Americans will wake up and even some of the Hopium addled will one day shake off their stupors.

The world of reality is healthier than Obama’s Bizzaro World.

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363 thoughts on “More of Barack Obama’s Bizzaro World

  1. Anyone else find that the U.S. Navy has a sharp sense of humor? The ship sent to intercept the North Korean ship is the USS John S. Mccain.

    Is the Navy sending a message with the selection of that particular ship?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56)

    The ship is named after John S. McCain, Jr. and John S. McCain, Sr., both Admirals in the United States Navy.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/19/military-set-intercept-north-korean-ship-suspected-proliferatin-missiles-nukes/

    The U.S. military is planning to intercept a flagged North Korean ship suspected of proliferating weapons material in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last Friday, FOX News has learned.

    The USS John McCain, a navy destroyer, will intercept the ship Kang Nam as soon as it leaves the vicinity off the coast of China, according to a senior U.S. defense official. The order to inderdict has not been given yet, but the ship is getting into position.

  2. Anyone else find that the U.S. Navy has a sharp sense of humor? The ship sent to intercept the North Korean ship is the USS John S. Mccain.

    Is the Navy sending a message with the selection of that particular ship?
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    You betcha.

  3. I agree, the ship was quite apropos.

    Re: Sir Barksalot’s protestations and tendency toward incongruity of actions and words, I think it is an example of passive aggression. It is a hostile and pathological pattern of behavior, reminiscent of what SHV, I believe, has previously labeled as Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

  4. Admin: this is a fine article. It provides a coherent explanation of what is happening, and why people of the left and the center must look to their hole card and see what is being done by Obama to advance the interests of the few against those of the many. What is grand and wonderful about your comments is your ability to see both the short waves, i.e the daily developments and the long waves/ i.e. the trend lines and hidden agendas at work here, more clearly and courageously than any other source. You are quite remarkable, really.

  5. Another home-run, Admin – the kibnd where there are 3 runners on base when the ball is hit – what’s that called? a grand slam? Anyway, the article is brilliant.

    I liked your ending. “The world of reality is healthier than Obama’s Bizzaro World.”

    That’s how I try to live my life.

    BTW, the navy sending in the John S McCain is a RIOT!!!!!

  6. The order to inderdict has not been given yet, but the ship is getting into position.
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    If we were talking about anyone but Obama I would interpet this to be standard operating procedure, since the command is often given in two parts, such as: prepared to salute–salute; or column right–hut etc.

    In this case, I can see Obama locking himself in a room with the Navy at the door, saying request permission to enter, and Obama in a fetal position no go away go away no decision today.

    They will force him to make a decision just as they did with the pirates. And if it succeeds, big media will drool. But the word will get around among insiders. And for all our pretentions of democracy it remains unquestionably an inside game.

  7. admin Says:

    June 19th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    Anyone else find that the U.S. Navy has a sharp sense of humor? The ship sent to intercept the North Korean ship is the USS John S. Mccain.
    &&&&&&&&

    Will the USS Barack Obama be a boogie-board? Permanently stationed in Hawaii?

  8. O will be too busy this weekend with father’s day to take notice of anything else…hey, he deserves to be pampered! it’s his time…

  9. rgb44hrc, boogie-board?? LOL!!!

    Mabye Bawaak is pist since their aiming a missile at Hawaii???I don’t think he much cares for Alaska? LOL!!

  10. According to twitter, Mousavi and his staff have been arrested and his offices have been trashed!

  11. IF YOU WANT LEADERSHIP FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU’RE ASKING FOR IT FROM THE WRONG BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT: TRY CONGRESS INSTEAD

    Our congressmen know the difference between wrong and right…doesn’t our pres?

    yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_iran

    Obama holds to measured course on unrest in Iran
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    By ROBERT BURNS, AP National Security Writer Robert Burns, Ap National Security Writer – 19 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – The Obama administration on Friday stuck to a measured response to the uprising in Iran over a disputed presidential election, even as both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly to condemn an official crackdown on mostly peaceful demonstrations in the streets of Tehran.

    Administration officials said they remained convinced that the wiser U.S. course was caution over confrontation. President Barack Obama is coming under growing domestic political pressure to speak out more forcefully in support of protesters warned by Iran’s supreme leader Friday to end their huge street rallies.

    In the strongest message yet from the U.S. government, the House voted 405-1 to condemn Tehran’s crackdown on protest rallies and the government’s interference with Internet and cell phone communications. The Senate followed suit later in the day.

    The resolution was initiated by Republicans as a veiled criticism of Obama, who has been reluctant to criticize Tehran’s handling of disputed an election that left hard-liner President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in power.

    The resolution expresses support for “all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties and rule of law” and affirms “the importance of democratic and fair elections.”

    It also condemns “the ongoing violence” by the government and pro-government militias against demonstrators, as well as government “suppression of independent electronic communications through interference with the Internet and cell phones.”

    Obama’s chief spokesman, Robert Gibbs, said the White House welcomed the resolution, calling its language consistent with the president’s.

    “As the president has said, we’re not going to be used as political foils and political footballs in a debate that’s happening by Iranians in Iran,” Gibbs said. He said the administration’s view is that Iranian leaders would use fiercer U.S. support for the protesters to paint them as puppets of the Americans.

    “That’s not what we’re going to do,” Gibbs said.

    A long-standing source of Iranian anger at the U.S. is the CIA’s role in toppling the elected government of Mohammad Mosaddeq in 1953 and replacing him with the late Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. In the 1979 Islamic revolution that overthrew the Shah, student militants occupied the U.S. Embassy and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. In April 1980, Washington severed diplomatic relations with Iran.

    Obama, who hopes to draw Tehran into talks aimed at curtailing its nuclear ambitions and potentially ending the 29-year-old rupture in diplomatic relations, has stayed mostly neutral on the election dispute. He has spoken in measured terms about supporting Iranians’ aspirations to have their voices heard.

    In Tehran, Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei sternly warned of a crackdown if protesters continue their massive street rallies. In his first response to a week of protests of the disputed election, Khamenei said opposition leaders “will be held accountable for all the violence, bloodshed and rioting” if they do not halt the rallies. Khamenei also said the balloting had not been rigged.

    Obama was asked Friday in an interview with CBS News’ Harry Smith what he made of the Khamenei remarks.

    “I’m very concerned based on some of the tenor and tone of the statements that have been made, that the government of Iran recognize that the world is watching,” Obama said. “And how they approach and deal with people who are, through peaceful means, trying to be heard will, I think, send a pretty clear signal to the international community about what Iran is — and is not.”

    At the State Department, spokesman Ian Kelly said the administration has not been reluctant to criticize Iran.

    “There have been times when demonstrators who peacefully assembled have, of course, suffered at the hands of the authorities. And we condemn any actions like that,” Kelly said.

    Many lawmakers, however, are calling on the administration to take a tougher approach on Iran.

    Rep. Mike Pence, who co-sponsored Friday’s resolution, said he disagrees with the administration that it must not meddle in Iran’s internal affairs.

    “When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say Mr. (Mikhail) Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business,” said Pence, R-Ind., of former President Ronald Reagan’s famous exhortation to the Soviet leader to “tear down that wall” in a divided Berlin.

    Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and co-sponsor of the resolution, said “it is not for us to decide who should run Iran, much less determine the real winner of the June 12 election.

    “But we must reaffirm our strong belief that the Iranian people have a fundamental right to express their views about the future of their country freely and without intimidation,” added Berman, D-Calif.

    Congress — particularly the 435-member House — frequently weighs in on foreign policy matters, when a similar message from the State Department or the White House would be considered confrontational. Such resolutions have no practical effect other than to express the opinion of lawmakers and try to influence the administration in power at the time.

    Senior administration officials stressed on Friday that Obama intends to stick to his current approach. They said the administration is considering what they might do if Iran’s clerical regime does use force to shut down demonstrations. The officials spoke with a small group of reporters about the administration’s strategy on condition of anonymity to more freely describe internal White House deliberations.

    The administration’s view is that a measured U.S. response gives the protesters and their quest for greater freedoms a larger — rather than smaller — chance of succeeding, the officials said.

  12. Veteran CBS newsman Walter Cronkite reported ill

    yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_en_tv/us_cronkite_ill

  13. Obama talks titles with winning NBA, NHL coaches

    The Associated Press – ‎7 hours ago‎
    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama took time out to chat with title-winning coaches Phil Jackson of the NBA’s Los Angeles Lakers and Dan Bylsma…

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    Not going to post this ridiculous article here, but I think they’ve got it all wrong. It should have read: bamboozler takes time out from chatting up his sports buddies and his terrorist thug buddies to actually do some work. Five minutes later and he was totally exhausted and had to go play golf!

  14. Clinton rests at home after elbow surgery…

    WASHINGTON, June 19 (UPI) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rested at home Friday after undergoing a two-hour surgery on her right elbow, the State Department said.

    “Her doctors at the George Washington University Hospital have advised her that they expect her to make a full recovery without lasting damage to her arm,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters. “After the surgery, she returned to her home, where she is now and where she will remain with her family through the weekend.”

    Clinton banged her elbow Thursday when she took a tumble while going to the White House. Kelly said her arm was in a cast. He said he didn’t know how long the cast would be needed.

    She did not transfer acting secretary of state power for the two hours she was under a general anesthetic, Kelly said.

    “As I understand it,” he said, ” there is no formal requirement for her to do that, for the secretary to do that. And I don’t believe it was done formally.”

    No details were given regarding Clinton’s schedule or travel plans for the near future.

    upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/19/Clinton-rests-at-home-after-elbow-surgery/UPI-19041245437227/

  15. Hillary Clinton undergoes successful surgery: official

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton early Friday underwent “successful surgery” to repair her broken right elbow and she is expected to make a full recovery, a top aide said.

    Clinton, who is right handed, returned to her home in Washington after the two-hour surgery at a Washington hospital and will rest there with her family during the weekend, her chief of staff Cheryl D. Mills said in a statement.

    Her husband Bill Clinton, the former president, and their daughter Chelsea joined her late Wednesday after she fell in the State Department basement as she headed to her car for a meeting at the White House, officials said.

    Decisions about her schedule and plans for travel to Europe this week will be made in the coming days, Mills added.

    She is due at a meeting of the Group of Eight leading industrial countries in Trieste, Italy and talks of the Organization of Security and Cooperation on the Greek island of Corfu.

    “Her doctors at The George Washington University Hospital have advised her that they expect her to make a full recovery without lasting damage to her arm,” the statement said.

    “She, president Clinton, and Chelsea are grateful for the many prayers and messages of good will they have received these past few days,” Mills said.

    The three expressed appreciation for the “excellent care” provided by the medical team, her statement added.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gOTqy7CoiKELZWMPePx5xfs2DT6Q

  16. JanH, Thanks, thats the most info Ive recieved about Hillary’s elbow. I am glad she has already had it operated on, probably her decision to get this over asap so she can get back to work. Thankgoodness for Hillary, for without her I would be totally scared about what is going on.

  17. It’s also good to see Hillary spending several quiet days with her husband and daughter. I can’t remember the last time they took a family vacation.

    She really needs to rest, too. Maybe this was a blessing in disguise, although I’d never wish a broken elbow on anyone, least of all Hillary. 🙂

  18. confloyd,

    another article that I didn’t post here mentioned how grateful Chelsea and Bill are for the many well wishes from everyone.

  19. As for health care, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the when you incur a huge deficit because of a stimulus, your chances of passing an enormous, costly initiative like health care reform shrink markedly. And I’m a big supporter of health care reform, too, because I believe our country desperately needs it (of course, the plan I wanted was Hillary’s).

    I wonder what excuses the media will come up with to explain Obama’s failure. After all, he started out with many more advantages than Bill Clinton had in 1993, so any collapse of health care reform should be a bigger black mark for him than it ever was for Bill.

  20. Admin: you paint a vivid picture with your words. Three images will suffice:

    1. Big media struggling like a dying dinosaur in a tarpit due to their insane worship of Obama. (Note: the big media whores like Halperin do not believe Baracks bullshit any more than we do. They are just happy to have a job, and some assurance that if it all turns fluid then they will have a charter seat on the last helicopter out of Saigon.)

    2. Obama has deciding to hit the accelerator rather than pump the brakes when it comes to federal spending which will bury the country. (Note: that is the most important reason why Hillary did not want to return to Congress. She would have fought to defer these spending programs until the country was healthy, and big media would have destroyed her for it. That is why she maneuvered him into a position of offering her the SOS job, according to an Obama insider.)

    3. North Korea makes a specific threat to attack American soil, Obama stands mute and the USS John McCain prepares to intercept a North Korean vessel with fissionable arms aboard and waits for an ever reluctant Obama to give an interdiction order. (Note: let us hope he learned something from the pirate incident. He has no bona fides.)

  21. She really needs to rest, too. Maybe this was a blessing in disguise, although I’d never wish a broken elbow on anyone, least of all Hillary.
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    amen.

  22. Democrats fear Obama health care plan ‘on the rocks

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Several senior Democratic advisers to the White House are urging President Obama to further step up his personal involvement in the health care debate, as administration allies privately warn the president’s push for a major reform bill is hitting major roadblocks at a critical juncture on Capitol Hill.

    One of the Democratic advisers told CNN there is fear within the party that the president’s signature issue is “on the rocks” because of dramatically high cost estimates for separate bills being drafted by Sens. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts and Max Baucus, D-Montana.

    The Congressional Budget Office’s estimate for the Kennedy bill — that it will cost $1 trillion and yet leave millions of Americans without health insurance — has given Republicans strong political ammunition to charge reform may be too expensive at a time of massive federal deficits.

    “We’re going to need the White House to step it up a little bit and get more engaged,” said a second Democratic adviser, who acknowledged concerns that Republicans are gaining steam in the message battle. “We’ve got some time to sort this out, but decision time is just around the corner.”

    This second Democratic adviser said the CBO’s $1.6 trillion estimate for the Baucus bill was particularly jarring to Democrats because it was “several hundred billion dollars more” than expected. Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, announced this week he’s pushing back the official unveiling of his legislation until after July 4 — a delay that imperils White House hopes the Senate can finish work on the issue before leaving town for its August recess.

    But senior White House officials contend that while there are legitimate concerns about the status of the legislation, the president is still confident the setbacks are a normal part of the legislative process and it will eventually get back on track. “We’re not hysterical,” said one senior White House official. “We’ve seen this movie before: [the Congressional process] looks like a total mess, nothing is getting done, and then something happens.”

    White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday that despite the partisan rancor, Obama believes Congress can work out its differences and deliver a bill in 2009. “I don’t think it’s a surprise that this is going to take some time to do,” he said. “It’s an issue that we’ve been discussing for 40 years.”

    Amid the Democratic concerns about the need for the president to take on a more active role, Obama is planning next Wednesday to appear in a primetime special broadcast on ABC News. The program entitled “Questions for the President: Prescription for America” will be moderated by Charles Gibson and Diane Sawyer and will feature questions from audience members in the East Room of the White House.

    Jim Manley, a senior aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, told CNN that while there are some ominous signs for Democrats right now, party officials are confident they’re just bumps in the road. “Be very careful to sort out the wheat from the chaff, the noise from the reality,” Manley said. “It’s not easy, but we can do it.”

    But in a sign Democrats may be nervous that they will not be able to reach 60 votes in the Senate for Obama’s plan, Reid reminded reporters this week that in order to pass the health legislation he still reserves the right to use arcane budget rules known as “reconciliation” that require only a simple majority of 51 votes.

    Republicans accuse Obama and the Democrats of trying to rush through what they say is flawed legislation in 2009, before the politics of mid-term elections in 2010 and the 2012 presidential election.

    “I hope we don’t become victims of a deadline when we want to get it right,” said Sen. Michael Enzi, R-Wyoming, who accused Democrats on the committee of forcing an incomplete, partisan bill on the panel. “We’re doing it too fast.”

    At issue is how to best reduce the cost and increase the reach of the current health care system, which officials say is increasingly draining personal, corporate and government budgets while leaving 46 million Americans without health insurance.

    Obama warns that failure to act now would bring far worse economic difficulties than the costs of plans under discussion.

    Both parties in Congress agree on the need to slow the increase in health care costs while ensuring that all Americans can get health insurance, but they differ sharply on how to proceed. Democrats generally favor a government-funded “public option” to compete with private insurers. Republicans say such a step would lead to a government takeover of health care, which they oppose.

    The parties agree on several principles, including an emphasis on preventive care, cost-cutting measures in the existing Medicare and Medicaid programs and a halt to denials of coverage because of pre-existing medical conditions.

    Meanwhile, a bipartisan group made up of former Senate Majority Leaders Tom Daschle, Howard Baker and Bob Dole has offered an outline for an alternative plan intended to overcome the deep party divisions. The proposal by the Bipartisan Policy Center calls for a budget-neutral plan that would include taxing some employer-provided health care benefits for workers. The plan stopped short of an outright government-funded public health care option, but called for various forms of government assistance to help make coverage more affordable and available. It also called for requiring all Americans to have health care.

    Both taxing health care benefits and the lack of a public option go against stated Democratic positions, while the mandate for individual coverage is opposed by Republicans. Such a bipartisan approach is what the issue requires, Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tennessee, said at a Thursday news conference held by legislators from both parties. “We’re not here to slow it down,” Cooper said of his call for the two parties to work together on a consensus measure guaranteed to pass. “The process is already creaking under it’s own weight,” he said. “I have a message for Democrats: if you want to get health care reform done, include Republicans and take the sledge-hammer threat of reconciliation off the table,” said Antonia Ferrier, spokeswoman for House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. “Using this heavy-handed tactic shows they can’t even reach agreement within their own party — and that their moderates have abandoned them.”

    edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/19/health.care/

  23. This is the same problem Clinton had. It’s such a costly endeavor, you need some bipartisan support to pass it, but Dems and Repubs are so far apart on the issue that’s almost impossible.

  24. It’s such a costly endeavor, you need some bipartisan support to pass it, but Dems and Repubs are so far apart on the issue that’s almost impossible
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    If the Republicans can present a united front against this bill then they can advantage themselves in the 2010 election. Bambi can still pass the bill along strictly partisan lines, and the republicans can pick off the bluedogs. Once people realize the financial bind Obama has put the country in they will want this thing deferred. We need this bill at some point, but we must wait until we have the wherewithal to pay for it.

  25. Just on CNN, after carefully interpreting the message from Khomeni, he blames Hillary for the branch devidians. Of coarse they had Arianna on there to discuss what he said about Hillary. She refrained from saying anything overtly, but did say that we should not bite on the neocon approach given by the Ayotollah. In otherwards she all but called Hillary a neocon.
    Of coarse she showered Obama with the right strategy. Its hopeless, these idiots are so eat up with the dumbass it almost funny.
    She is saying that the Iranians need no help in securing their freedom from us. WOW! how stupid, I guess she thinks those folks over there are bullet proof!

  26. Correction: I do not mean we need THIS bill if this bill is based on the Deon Patrick (aka little bam bam) formula. What I meant to say we need a comprehensive health care coverage and I believe it should be based on the criteria suggested by Professor Porter at Harvard which I posted several weeks ago and SHV commented upon.

  27. Arianna is an empty-headed disgusting egotist. Why anybody listens to this idiot is beyond me. She’s another Morris.

    Both are ugly on the inside.

  28. Just on CNN, after carefully interpreting the message from Khomeni, he blames Hillary for the branch devidians. Of coarse they had Arianna on there to discuss what he said about Hillary. She refrained from saying anything overtly, but did say that we should not bite on the neocon approach given by the Ayotollah. In otherwards she all but called Hillary a neocon.
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    Confloyd: it proves Hillary has his attention. I suspect it was her statement that the voters rights should be respected. Fine. Huffington is a loon, and no one with common sense pays much attention to her. She is human garbage.

  29. rgb44hrc Says:

    June 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Why would BO try to interfere with a ‘rigged’ selection?

    That’s how he got in the WH.

  30. Correction: I do not mean we need THIS bill if this bill is based on the Deon Patrick (aka little bam bam) formula.
    **********
    Some people have run the numbers and this program is worse than Mass. The bottom line is that the Treasury dept. can’t borrow money from the Chinese fast enough to pay for UHC which is run through the insurance companies that suck” 35% off the top. Obama plan is to put a trillion dollar band-aid on a broken system. The only beneficiaries will be the people who get the $350 billion off the top.

  31. Confloyd: assuming that is an accurate restatment of what Huffington said, notice the straw man. She says it is best that Obama say nothing because we do not want to engage militrarily as the neocons did in Iraq. That is the clear implication. And it presents the same false range of options which limosenes like her are famous for. It assumes that only choice is to do nothing like Obama does, or bomb the hell out of them like Bush did. But the fact is there are a myriad of options between those two extremes, yet she hides them by her comment. She is just a phony disiengenous, hard to understand motor mouth showing her ignorance and bias.

  32. If CNN keeps going after the likes of huffington for comments, it’s no wonder they are scraping the bottom in ratings.

  33. I was also listening to the Hillary haters Blitzer/OPuff-N-Stuff and how he could not wait to try and have her attack Hillary (and Biden) for their alleged insubordination for asking BO to be more supportive of the Iranian protests….Interesting how once again, Obama is reluctantly following Clinton and finally appears to be “manning up” a bit with his support for the Iranian folks….he took her positions and lied about them in the election, but follows the Clinton mode when finally faced with realities.

  34. Stupidity, a detriment to survival, is not an Israeli trait:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184872947&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    Only 6 percent of Jewish Israelis consider the views of American President Barack Obama’s administration pro-Israel, according to a new Jerusalem Post-sponsored Smith Research poll.

    The poll, which has a margin of error of 4.5%, was conducted among a representative sample of 500 Israeli Jewish adults this week, following Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s speech in which he expressed his support for a demilitarized Palestinian state.

    Another 50% of those sampled consider the policies of Obama’s administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli, and 36% said the policies were neutral. The remaining 8% did not express an opinion.

    The numbers were a stark contrast to the last poll published May 17, on the eve of the meeting between Netanyahu and Obama at the White House. In that poll, 31% labeled the Obama administration pro-Israel, 14% considered it pro-Palestinian and 40% said it was neutral. The other 15% declined to give an opinion.

    Israelis’ views of Obama’s predecessor in the White House, George W. Bush, are nearly the opposite. According to last month’s poll, 88% of Israelis considered his administration pro-Israel, 7% said Bush was neutral and just 2% labeled him pro-Palestinian.

  35. I did not hear Huffy Post and her nonesense…but I did catch Obama cheerleader Gergen sound a red flag on Obama’s stance in that we were seen as too timid Tieneman Square and we cannot allow that impression to surface again…

    once again…Hillary has the courageous approach…and let the chips fall where they may…

    (in the big picture she will be seen as correct)

  36. …besides O is much too busy this week to be sidetracked…he has to rehearse his jokes for tonight’s Radio and TV Correspondent’s dinner…then he will be rendevouing with CBS and then of course he has his date with ABC next week…and today he needed to lecture fathers and pray with hispanics…oh, and he is trying to come up with some scheme for next week to quiet the gays and get their ATM working again…

    foreign policy will have to wait…

  37. Two centuries ago a young John Quincy Adams said our foreign policy should be developed and executed in such a way as to convince any would be foe that we are not a nation to be trifled with. The elites of this country, in their infinite wisdom, have installed a sociopathic boob as head of the executive branch, and in less than 180 days he has managed to undo a doctrine which has protected this nation for roughly 200 years. They laugh at Bambi and they mock him like no one before. And they continue to taunt him and test and he folds wherever he turns. The problem is as long as big media hides the truth and continues to flatter him, he has no clue how bad he really is. If this were vaudville, then the cane would have dragged him off stage long before this.

  38. I am waiting to hear the Lord of the Flies say some thing about the injury that Hillary received when she fell as she hurried to the WH for a meeting with him.He is such a cold hearted fish out of water and the greatest threat to our democracy.Get well Hillary,the job of CIC will be open for you when these idiots in our political system find themselves much despised and deeper in debt.

    By ABM90 Hillary is our only hope.

  39. Admin,

    When the idiot keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth, and when the Israelis have gone through as much as they have, there is no way they are going to suffer this fool and his lies any longer.

  40. wbboei Says:

    June 19th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
    It’s such a costly endeavor, you need some bipartisan support to pass it, but Dems and Repubs are so far apart on the issue that’s almost impossible
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    If the Republicans can present a united front against this bill then they can advantage themselves in the 2010 election. Bambi can still pass the bill along strictly partisan lines, and the republicans can pick off the bluedogs. Once people realize the financial bind Obama has put the country in they will want this thing deferred. We need this bill at some point, but we must wait until we have the wherewithal to pay for it.

    I disagree. Not for profit health care is an absolute necessity…..more important than the bailouts and “stimulus” . Affordable not for profit health care would have provided a “stimulus” for many americans.

    My husband and I get out health care coverage thru his employer. Both our contribution and the employers cost went up by a huge percentage again this year. Our cost went up almost $200 more per month for less coverage with higher deductibles.

  41. Anyone else find that the U.S. Navy has a sharp sense of humor? The ship sent to intercept the North Korean ship is the USS John S. Mccain.

    Is the Navy sending a message with the selection of that particular ship?

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    I’m sure John McCain is as pleased as punch for the free publicity. Is there any doubt
    that particular warship was chosen for the smile it would bring to McCain’s lips? Knowing McCain’s flair for inventive comedic distractions; It wouldn’t surprise me if he had one of the Navy cadets paint “Go Ahead, Make My Day” on the bow.

  42. I disagree. Not for profit health care is an absolute necessity…..more important than the bailouts and “stimulus” . Affordable not for profit health care would have provided a “stimulus” for many americans.

    My husband and I get out health care coverage thru his employer. Both our contribution and the employers cost went up by a huge percentage again this year. Our cost went up almost $200 more per month for less coverage with higher deductibles
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    Carol: are you convinced in your own mind that what he is proposing is the right bill, with the insurance companies in charge and the potential for rationing decisions which you may not agree with? Do you agree that it should be rushed through as the stimulus plan was with many of the faults discovered only after the fact? And, do you think we can afford it on top of everything else right now in what is already the most expensive budget with the largest deficit at a time when our economy is in sever contraction and countries are retreating from supporting our dollar because of our debt and deficits? Those are the concerns I have at this point. I am fully in favor of the right plan at the right time and supported Hillarys plan vigorously on the campaign trail. Porter and SHV have made a compelling case that the current system is broken.a. But this is not Hillarys plan and it preserves insurance control of heath care whereas hers was intended to break their stranglehold.

  43. Not for profit health care is an absolute necessity…..more important than the bailouts and “stimulus” . Affordable not for profit health care would have provided a “stimulus” for many americans.
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    Carol: if we could reverse the clock, cancel the stimulus and avoid the bailouts, which I have opposed from the beginning then I would agree with you. I do think health care is a right, not a priviledge. Since I do not have an employer I pay my entire health care bill, and I have noticed substantial increases. I have studied the Kaiser Permanente Plan and while it is an excellent plan, and there are certain advantages when you have common ownership of the plan and the hospital. But doctors are in network and this insulates them from competition. When competiton is absent, costs go up and force more rationing to occur. We need the right plan, and it sounds to me like the bambi plan aint it.

  44. A couple of days ago I took my elderly mother to her doctor. He talked about the Obama Healthcare plan and he expressed REAL CONCERN. Although he is one of the younger “baby boomers” he said that all of us should be very worried for the way elder care is going to be going with the supposedly coming plan…especially those who are older boomers. He seemed to think that his hands will be tied as a doctor in dealing with the medical well being of his older patients.

  45. Good positings today. I want a health care system that gives the SAME benefits as the one the Reps and Senators have, no more no less.

    You are right wbboei. He should have started with the health care package, and not bailing out GM, and the banks. Especially since the mortagage help is not getting to the people that need it. Health care is needed by everyone, especially if you have lost your job and your home.

    Good Night All

  46. Good positings today. I want a health care system that gives the SAME benefits as the one the Reps and Senators have, no more no less.
    ************
    I don’t know the details but that model might be a good start. The Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP), has many insurance options of varying cost to the employee. The govt pays on average ~ 72% of the premium. The over all plan keeps cost down by negotiating with providers, the population is generally healthy, and over head cost are very low. The last number that that I saw was the program employed ~150 people and spent $20 million to provide coverage for >4 million people. This type of government plan will never happen because the insurance companies, and Big Pharma won’t let it happen. Under the Medicare “drug plan” (Drug Company welfare) the drug companies prevented Medicare from negotiating drug prices, therefore, compared to the VA which can negotiate, Medicare recipients pay double the VA price.

  47. I wonder who the Sec. of Navy is…maybe Gates had the choice of the ship to use
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    MP: It would not be the Secretary of the Navy. His name is Ray Mabus, and he appears to be more of a party hack and bambi lover than a credible leader of the Navy. He was governor of Mississippi, and Bill Clinton Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, yet he defected from Hillary to Obama. He was ROTC and weapons officer on an auxilliary ship. John Paul Jones he aint. Therefore, I suspect it was someone in the command structure, possibly someone still pissed off at the way bambi was a fix’n to hang the navy out to dry if the pirates got away, due to his own refusal to make a command decision. That would be my guess.

  48. Good positings today. I want a health care system that gives the SAME benefits as the one the Reps and Senators have, no more no less.
    ************
    I don’t know the details but that model might be a good start. The Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP), has many insurance options of varying cost to the employee. The govt pays on average ~ 72% of the premium. The over all plan keeps cost down by negotiating with providers, the population is generally healthy, and over head cost are very low. The last number that that I saw was the program employed ~150 people and spent $20 million to provide coverage for >4 million people. This type of government plan will never happen because the insurance companies, and Big Pharma won’t let it happen. Under the Medicare “drug plan” (Drug Company welfare) the drug companies prevented Medicare from negotiating drug prices, therefore, compared to the VA which can negotiate, Medicare recipients pay double the VA price.
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    That was one of the three options Hillary advocated in the primary. She wanted the best health program for the American People whereas Obama wants the best health program for the Insurance Companies and Pharamaseutical poviders. That is why they funded his campaign. Ted Kennedy has huge persoal investments in the phamaseutical industy. Bambi is there to reward Ted and rip off the American People, and the ignorant ones fall for it.

  49. Health Care Reform Bill Obama will follow:

    h…

    pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/rockefeller-patterns-a-healthcare-%e2%80%98reform%e2%80%99-bill-on-the-federal-reserve/

  50. If you have wondered why Bambi supported FISA wiretapping and why Bambi wants to regulate the internet you have probably assumed it was to defend our nation against terrorism. Granted that may be part of the reason, but the greater reason may be the fact such regulation by government provides the only means of totalitarian control that can be exerted in an information driven economy.

    A friend of mine worked for Walter Wriston when he was Chairman of Citibank during the late eighties. Wriston wrote a book which puts the issue into perspective. It is called The Twilight of Sovereignty. Here is the flavor of what he had to say on the subject. It tells you why Obama is moving in these directions and why civil libertarians should worry about their attempts to regulated these means of communication.
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    Wriston’s central thesis is that information is a force that cannot be stopped. An ingot of iron is of a certain size: if divided, those who have it, only possess a piece of it. Iron is a zero-sum game. Information is just the opposite: when given away, it multiplies. Information is a positive-sum game.

    The sovereignty Wriston refers to is the supreme power enjoyed by a state with respect to regulating the behavior of people and institutions within its borders. Such a political idea depends on physical space and physical items that can be seen, touched, and weighed. It’s easy to count, track, and tax things. Not so in the new economy where the driving force of information provides the value added to products and is often the product itself. Information products have no intrinsic physical existence. How does one count or value an idea? How does one track it across a border? Or tax it?

    Information, shared widely by technology (computers, phone lines, videotapes, satellite transmissions on CNN), has been a major factor in the breaking up of old style regimes and freeing of the talents of their people. Information has changed the dynamics of trade. Information has transformed the nature of money. No longer is money something that shines and can be weighed. Today it is a series of bits on a computer somewhere, accessed by a magnetic strip on the back of a small piece of plastic. One can argue there is more value in the information about a financial transaction than there is in the transaction itself!

    No longer can people horde information and use it solely for their own purposes, be that good or evil. Today the world is so networked that information flows instantaneously across the globe. Within minutes anyone and everyone can know and then make decisions based on that information. Think back to mid-1997 when the Asian economic turmoil erupted. This was not a geographically isolated crisis, but one that was felt everywhere at once.

    Wriston’s central thesis is that information frees us, a force that cannot be stopped. An ingot of iron is of a certain size: if divided, those who have it, only possess a piece of it. Iron is a zero-sum game. Information is just the opposite: when given away, it multiplies. Information is a positive-sum game.

    The sovereignty Wriston refers to is the supreme power enjoyed by a state with respect to regulating the behavior of people and institutions within its borders. Such a political idea depends on physical space and physical items that can be seen, touched, and weighed. It’s easy to count, track, and tax things. Not so in the new economy where the driving force of information provides the value added to products and is often the product itself. Information products have no intrinsic physical existence. How does one count or value an idea? How does one track it across a border? Or tax it?

    Information, shared widely by technology (computers, phone lines, videotapes, satellite transmissions on CNN), has been a major factor in the breaking up of old style regimes and freeing of the talents of their people. Information has changed the dynamics of trade. Information has transformed the nature of money. No longer is money something that shines and can be weighed. Today it is a series of bits on a computer somewhere, accessed by a magnetic strip on the back of a small piece of plastic. One can argue there is more value in the information about a financial transaction than there is in the transaction itself!

    No longer can people horde information and use it solely for their own purposes, be that good or evil. Today the world is so networked that information flows instantaneously across the globe. Within minutes anyone and everyone can know and then make decisions based on that information. Think back to mid-1997 when the Asian economic turmoil erupted. This was not a geographically isolated crisis, but one that was felt everywhere at once.

  51. Years ago I formed an ad hoc industry group to lobby in favor of a bill to protect United States cattle interests against the dumping of cheap low quality foreign meat on the domestic market to depress cattle prices and quality. One of the things I discovered was that the Federal Government (NCBA) was underreporting the amount of foreign meat imported into this country by a margin of at least 20%. A friend of mine, who was a Texas Cowboy right out of cental casting and a cousin of the late actor Steve McQueen would rail on that subject until hell wouldnt have it anymore. Really. And the congressional office sponsoring the bill would only accept the goverment figures which were completely inaccuate based on credible proof. I wondered why. My friend told me it was because the packers–IBP, Cargill and ConAgra at that time were fudging the numbers. He was right.

    I asked my friend from CitiBank if he could help me compilethe statistical evidence on the deterioration of the economy since Bambi took office. For example, Pittsburg Kid tells us that the unemployment rate on January 20 was 7% whereas now it is 9.2% then we can say that the incremental job loss is 2.2% since Bambi took office. He told me point blank that the 9.2% number is understated. I told him yes I am aware of the fact that they do not count those who have been out of work beyond a certain point, and if they were added in then the real rate would be around 16% according to my stock broker.

    He said no that is not what I am saying. What I have spoken with people at the Bureau of Labor statistics which is where the unemployment numbers come from and they have told me how it actually works in their shop. First, their people come up with a number based on actual data. Second, they get a call from the Administration and the number gets adjusted a point or two to make the Administation look good or better. Third, like any other president Obama is moving his own people into that department now to “juice” the number–to make the unemployment rate look less than it actually is. Fourth, the department then sends their economist who came up with the original number in to defend the juiced number and he justifies it as best he can. He does not want to look too bright or too dumb just methodical.

    The implications here are obvious. Bambi people will indeed juice the unemployment numbers to make them look better, and economists will have to go before Congress to justify them. But to get the real picture you will need to add two points or so to the published figure for precisely the reason mentioned. And if we can catch Obama people juicing the numbers, well wouldnt that be grand. Politics aside, it is critical for the nation to have accurate numbers from BLS in circumstances like these so sound policy decisions can be made. Yet we know from bitter experience that Obama people will lie, cheat and steal whenever the opporuntity presents itself, here included.

  52. Paula: I think the link you posted yesterday is important. It provides futher proof that the emperor has no clothes–“thoughtful” though he is–like the Rodin staute. But he is not what you would call a man of action. Notice that he failed to accept the advice tendered to him by Hillary and Joe, and wimped out. And he is being called to task for it:

    1. “For Barack Obama, this was a serious misstep,” said Steven Clemons, director of the American strategy program at the New America Foundation. “It’s right for the administration to be cautious, but it’s extremely bad for him to narrow the peephole into an area in which we’re looking at just through the lens of the nuclear program.”

    2. “Up until now, the president had very thoughtfully calibrated his remarks on Iran, but his comment (which equated Moussavi and Aminijadt) was an uncharacteristic and egregious error,” said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “People are risking their lives and being slaughtered in the streets because they want fundamental change in the way Iran is governed. Our message to them shouldn’t be that it doesn’t make much difference to the United States.”
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    WASHINGTON — As tens of thousands of Iranian protesters take to the streets in defiance of the government in Tehran, officials in Washington are debating whether President Obama’s response to Iran’s disputed election has been too muted.

    Skip to next paragraph

    Follow the latest updates on The Times’ news blog, The Lede.

    Updates on Iran’s Disputed Election
    Iranian Readers: Share Your Views on the Outcome
    Go to the Lede Blog »

    Should Obama Speak Out on Iran?

    Mr. Obama is coming under increased pressure from Republicans and other conservatives who say he should take a more visible stance in support of the protesters.

    Even while supporting the president’s approach, senior members of the administration, including Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, would like to strike a stronger tone in support of the protesters, administration officials said.

    Other White House officials have counseled a more cautious approach, saying harsh criticism of the government or endorsement of the protests could have the paradoxical effect of discrediting the protesters and making them seem as if they were led by Americans. So far, Mr. Obama has largely followed that script, criticizing violence against the protesters, but saying that he does not want to be seen as meddling in Iranian domestic politics.

    Even so, the Iranian government on Wednesday accused American officials of “interventionist” statements.

    But several administration officials acknowledged that Mr. Obama might run the risk of coming across on the wrong side of history at a potentially transformative moment in Iran.

    The administration’s concern over how to calibrate the response to the protests in Iran reflects the competing goals Mr. Obama is trying to balance: keeping faith with democracy advocates in Iran while not staking out a position that is so tough that it kills any chance of engagement with the Iranian government on America’s national security interests, including the Iranian nuclear program and Iran’s support for militant Islamist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah.

    Some criticism of the Obama administration’s cautious posture may be politically opportunistic, coming from rivals who are eager to draw distinctions between Republicans and Democrats, to portray the administration as generally weak when it comes to international confrontation.

    But Mr. Obama also drew criticism from politically neutral observers when he said in an interview on Tuesday with The New York Times and CNBC that from an American national security perspective, there was not much difference between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Mir Hussein Moussavi, his closest competitor in the election.

    “Either way,” Mr. Obama said, the United States is “going to be dealing with an Iranian regime that has historically been hostile to the United States, that has caused some problems in the neighborhood and is pursuing nuclear weapons.”

    The remark struck critics as off key and dismissive toward Mr. Moussavi, when he has become a symbol of freedom and democracy in Iran. “Obama’s posture has been very equivocal, without a clear message,” said Representative Eric Cantor, a Virginia Republican who is the House minority whip. “Now is the time for us to show our support with the Iranian people. I would like to see a strong statement from him that has moral clarity.”

    Several administration officials, while acknowledging some unease about Mr. Obama’s measured policy, pushed back against the criticism. “He’s the president of the United States,” one senior official said. “We don’t get to say that it’s about 100,000 people on the streets and nothing else. It absolutely is about that, but when there are a range of issues we have to deal with, including the nuclear one, you don’t have the luxury of just focusing on one thing.”

    Another senior administration official said he worried that if the United States were perceived as trying to influence the outcome of the election, it would be difficult, perhaps even impossible, for the White House to negotiate later with the Iranian government about its nuclear program.

    “If they think what we’re about is regime change rather than changing the behavior of the regime, they’re likely to hunker down,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the matter.

    But some foreign policy experts questioned whether after recent events, the United States should or even could sit down to a negotiating table with a badly discredited Mr. Ahmadinejad.

    To be sure, the United States is in a more delicate position than other countries because of its enormous symbolism in Iran, where “Death to the United States” is still chanted at Friday Prayer.

    So Mrs. Clinton, on a visit to Niagara Falls, Ontario, last weekend, offered a noncommittal comment on the election, saying, “We obviously hope that the outcome reflects the genuine will and desire of the Iranian people.”

    Then the Canadian foreign affairs minister, Lawrence Cannon, stepped to the same microphones to express Canada’s “deep concern” about voting irregularities, and demanded a “fair and transparent counting of ballots.”

    Many Iran experts lauded Mr. Obama’s measured stance just after the election. But some of that support evaporated on Tuesday when he said there was not much difference between Mr. Ahmadinejad and Mr. Moussavi.

    “For Barack Obama, this was a serious misstep,” said Steven Clemons, director of the American strategy program at the New America Foundation. “It’s right for the administration to be cautious, but it’s extremely bad for him to narrow the peephole into an area in which we’re looking at what’s happening just through the lens of the nuclear program.”

    Mr. Obama’s comments deflated Mr. Moussavi, who is rapidly becoming a political icon in Iran, even supporters of Mr. Obama’s Iran policy say.

    “Up until now, the president had very thoughtfully calibrated his remarks on Iran, but this was an uncharacteristic and egregious error,” said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “People are risking their lives and being slaughtered in the streets because they want fundamental change in the way Iran is governed. Our message to them shouldn’t be that it doesn’t make much difference to the United States.”

  53. Is there any world leader now who does not see how weak Mr. Obama is. This will lower their opinion of him and the United States. Does this mean we will no longer support pro democracy movements around the world when they need our help? If so then he will undermine a policy which goes back more than 100 years. If the Republicans do not remind voters of his retreat in this situation I would be surprised. Again, it is not the false choice presented by him and that ignoamus Huffington, i.e. do nothing vs bomb them. Rather, it is to say something, anything in support to the concept of democracy which graced our country from 1783 until the 2008 Dimocratic Primary.

  54. Keep in mind his vice president and his secretary of state who have hands on experience in foreign affairs are telling him to be more forceful and he is freezing up. He has to rely on Britain to deliver the message. And when the opposition candidate and the forces of democacy turn to him what he do? He says it does not matter who wins we will have to deal with them. And they are deflated. Is this what a messiah does? Is this competent leadership. He is fast approaching the point where his popularity may be 100% and his job performance rating is 0%. When that happens he can abdicate the Presidency, go where he belongs and become the new announcer on American Idol.

  55. SouthernBorn at 11:14 last night: A couple of days ago I took my elderly mother to her doctor. He talked about the Obama Healthcare plan and he expressed REAL CONCERN.
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    Check this out:
    Obama’s Doctor Knocks Obamacare
    [Dr. David] Scheiner, 71, was Obama’s doctor from 1987 until he entered the White House; he vouched for the then-candidate’s “excellent health” in a letter last year. He’s still an enthusiastic Obama supporter, but he worries about whether the health care legislation currently making its way through Congress will actually do any good, particularly for doctors like himself who practice general medicine. “I’m not sure he really understands what we face in primary care,” Scheiner says.

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/18/obama-doctor-knocks-obamacare-business-healthcare-obamas-doctor.html

    Worth repeating: [Dr. Scheiner is] not sure he [Obama] really understands what we [doctors] face in primary care.

  56. Sorry – I forgot to modify the link. Am resubmitting.
    SouthernBorn at 11:14 last night: A couple of days ago I took my elderly mother to her doctor. He talked about the Obama Healthcase plan and he expressed REAL CONCERN.
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    Check this out:
    Obama’s Doctor Knocks Obamacare
    [Dr. David] Scheiner, 71, was Obama’s doctor from 1987 until he entered the White House; he vouched for the then-candidate’s “excellent health” in a letter last year. He’s still an enthusiastic Obama supporter, but he worries about whether the health care legislation currently making its way through Congress will actually do any good, particularly for doctors like himself who practice general medicine. “I’m not sure he really understands what we face in primary care,” Scheiner says.

    w w w dot forbes.com/2009/06/18/obama-doctor-knocks-obamacare-business-healthcare-obamas-doctor.html

    Worth repeating: [Dr. Scheiner is] not sure he [Obama] really understands what we [doctors] face in primary care.

  57. # Paula Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    This is the same problem Clinton had. It’s such a costly endeavor, you need some bipartisan support to pass it, but Dems and Repubs are so far apart on the issue that’s almost impossible.

    No you don’t. Indeed, Clinton wanted to pass it on reconciliation, but the worms in the Senate were too afraid to. BC now advocates Obama push to pass it on reconciliation, but Obama wants 60 or 70 votes. Bipartisan health reform is not worth spit, and would make things worse then they are today.

  58. wbboei Says:
    June 20th, 2009 at 5:43 am
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    our illustrious president is voting “present”. unable to take a stance. what a surprise..

  59. His silence on Iran is very telling to me. Just as his genuflecting to Arabian royalty, his rewriting holocaust/Israeli history, his first speeches being made on Arab television, his latest speech being made in Egypt (a country with huge human rights violations), his promises to the Arabs at the expense of the Israelis, his bullying of the Israelis and free ride to the Palestinians and Hamas, and finally the latest Israeli polls showing only a pitiful number who think he is pro-Israeli after his latest racist shenanigans.

    Oh yeah, I think I understand now.

  60. I am hearing on CNN that alot of the protesters are women and that they are the ones fighting the hardest.
    OMG we really need Hillary as the President right now for those women.

  61. There is a story on AOL right now that says Biran Williams stages his new casts with thin young people behind him. We have really become a phoney country, starting with the staged President.

  62. With Iran, North Korea, the big Cap and Trade fight that broke out among Democrats last night, the health of Kennedy and Byrd and the effects on legislation, along with all the news on health care – the Politico top story is “Obama’s top 10 quips from last night”. The priorities of Big Media and journalists’ sense of what is important (themselves) is clearly warped.

  63. I am hearing on CNN that alot of the protesters are women and that they are the ones fighting the hardest.
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    Confloyd: this is a defining moment for his presidency. Anyone who claims to be a liberal, progressive, democrat, feminist or humanist cannot avert their eyes from what is happening now. How can they not see the cowadice, the contradiction and the sheer hypocracy of the man. First, he tells the world that he is the one they have been waiting for to bring transcendent change. Second, repressed people in general and women in particular hear his voice and risk their lives for the quaint notion that their vote should count. Third, when they do so, Mr. Obama turns his back on them, tells the world it really does not matter because we will have to deal with whoever wins, and brushes aside the sound advice of his vice president and chief diplomat that he lend some showing of support to the people who answered his call.
    How many ways telling the world that he is one who will change the world and when people make his word flesh (as they said of Christ) saying it really doesn’t matter.

    If anyone you know supports this madness with the Huffington lie that the choice here is between doing nothing and reacting like a neocon in Iraq then you have my permission to strangle them.

  64. I guess they have quelled the protesters for today, but there is also tomorrow. I heard that Mousavi called for protesting on Sunday.
    They can’t find Mousavi, he’s probably dead!

  65. wbboei Says:

    June 19th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
    Not for profit health care is an absolute necessity…..more important than the bailouts and “stimulus” . Affordable not for profit health care would have provided a “stimulus” for many americans.
    —————————————————-
    Carol: if we could reverse the clock, cancel the stimulus and avoid the bailouts, which I have opposed from the beginning then I would agree with you. I do think health care is a right, not a priviledge. Since I do not have an employer I pay my entire health care bill, and I have noticed substantial increases. I have studied the Kaiser Permanente Plan and while it is an excellent plan, and there are certain advantages when you have common ownership of the plan and the hospital. But doctors are in network and this insulates them from competition. When competiton is absent, costs go up and force more rationing to occur. We need the right plan, and it sounds to me like the bambi plan

    I agree that O’s plan is not the right one, but I disagree that A PLAN can wait. I also was against the bogus stimulus, etc. Money was wasted that should have gone to health care. I agree that health care, like education, is a right, not a priviledge and must be available to all, now. As such health care must be not for profit.

  66. Mr. Obama turns his back on them
    *********
    I am surprised that he is showing restraint….I though he would “egg the demonstrators on” until they started getting killed; then cut and run and deny responsibility.

  67. Right now, americans play russian roulette with their wealth and health care. 50% of Americans going bankrupt are doing so because of health cost…even with insurance. If a family member gets the wrong desease, the entire household can lose everything. If this is not done before the next election, I believe it will not get done abd the dems will be toast. The rest of their policies stink…on the economy, illegal immigration…..and with out the health care fix, we will probably boomerang back to a right wing Repug.

    Hillary had the right idea. ….an extended medicare option for all ages. Let the for profit insurance companies continue for those who want it. Of course, over time they will mostly go out of business…deservedly so. I suppose there will always be a private, for pay option for those who want more, different or faster just like there are private schools that are for the most paart better than most public schools. It’s still a relatively free country and a capitalist one.

  68. Per PersianKiwi, they are pouring acid on the peole from Helicopters and Mousavi has said he is preparing for martyrdom.

  69. I am surprised that he is showing restraint….I though he would “egg the demonstrators on” until they started getting killed; then cut and run and deny responsibility.
    ——————————–
    Perhaps his sociopathic tendencies are in check for the moment. But in standing mute, he undermined his brand and the central premise of his candidacy. What surprised me is that he did not deliver one of his famous statements seeking to have it both ways. He could have acknowledged that it is an internal matter, called for both sides to exercise restraint, reinforced the importance of the vote and said the United States looks forward to dealing with the new administration once the alleged irregularities are resolved by the proper authority. To me that would not be sufficent but it is far better than bloody nothing. It is more calibrated and nuanced. And it walks the line between full support for the forces of rebellion vs leaving them high and dry after they responded to the dog whistle.

  70. Found it. And still not a FRIGGIN word from BO. I’m so ashamed i could cry.

    ‘Iranian twitterers are reporting use of water cannons, teargas, gunshots, and even some sort of burning agent being dropped on the crowds by helicopters. There’s still no confirmation as far as I know that a bomb really did go off at Khomeini’s shrine, but Reuters is now reporting that Mousavi supporters have set fire to a building being used by Ahmadinejad supporters. And now, suddenly, Mousavi is making some sort of statement where he says he’s prepared for martyrdom. Sounds like the gloves are finally all the way off.

  71. In Mr. Obama, I smell fear, and little else. It is easy to spout hot air to a supportive obvious, but to deal with consequential policy matters requires values and character which are conspicous by their absense.

  72. basil9, this regime needs to be changed and I think we should help, we almost went to Iran for a war, why not use this unrest to help achieve a more peaceful world. Obama is stupid! He’s a frigging Muslim and believes its a sin to kill one.

  73. Basil9, I also know Hillary has fallen and broken he elbow, but it sure came at a convenient time, especially since McCain has been so vocal about us needing to help.
    McCain and Hillary always think along the same lines in these things.

  74. From the UK Guardian – Mohsen Makhmalbaf. An Iranian fil maker and spokesperson for Moussavi.

    ‘I have been given the responsibility of telling the world what is happening in Iran. The office of Mir Hossein Mousavi, who the Iranian people truly want as their leader, has asked me to do so. They have asked me to tell how Mousavi’s headquarters was wrecked by plainclothes police officers. To tell how the commanders of the revolutionary guard ordered him to stay silent. To urge people to take to the streets because Mousavi could not do so directly.

    *******************************
    Some suggest the protests will fade because nobody is leading them. All those close to Mousavi have been arrested, and his contact with the outside world has been restricted. People rely on word of mouth, because their mobile phones and the internet have been closed down. That they continue to gather shows they want something more than an election. They want freedom, and if they are not granted it we will be faced with another revolution.’

  75. This has got to be torture for big media. Their entrepenural instincts bid require them to hype the Iran thing, but as they do so they must also address the obvious question what is their hero doing to protect innocent lives and the answer that comes back is nothing. That is why they advance this faux all or nothing red herring, hoping that someone will accept it as a credible answer. My point is they are twisting in the wind same as Bambi.

  76. The Lord of the flies made a guest appearance last nite on Beat The Press (if they do not support him).What a disgrace and embarrasment he continues to project.His comments about Hillary and her injury were his true feelings about her stature and respect that world leaders have for her.The garbage he throws out in his speeches is revealing his true agenda and the flies are swarming.He should name a CEO from Waste Management as the next Czar for cleaning up after him.

    By ABM90 Hillary,rest relax and stay on course,your time is coming soon.America can not tolerate this egocentric mental case any longer.

  77. ‘I have been given the responsibility of telling the world what is happening in Iran. The office of Mir Hossein Mousavi, who the Iranian people truly want as their leader, has asked me to do so. They have asked me to tell how Mousavi’s headquarters was wrecked by plainclothes police officers. To tell how the commanders of the revolutionary guard ordered him to stay silent. To urge people to take to the streets because Mousavi could not do so directly.
    —————————————————–
    If he decides to make a movie on this, I hope he calls Obama “The Dog That Didn’t Bark”. How can Mr. Obama talk about transforming the middle east and ignore this issue. It is unamerican.

  78. ABM.
    Beat the Press! ROTF! That’s even netter than Meet the Depressed!

    Wbboei,
    Here’s a couple of the latest tweets from persiankiwi.

    (Thanks for the heads-up, confloyd)
    hospital source – Tehran hospitals report hundreds of casualtys – #Iranelection18 minutes ago from web

    Unconfirmed – The Army will not follow orders to kill the people – #Iranelection 21 minutes ago.

    Mousavi speaking to supporters in the street NOW – #Iranelection26 minutes ago from web

    Mousavi – declares results of 10th Presidential Election null and void – #Iranelection RT RT RT28 minutes ago from web

  79. There is another constraint for Obama here that nobody is talking about. And like beauty it is in the eye of the beholder. If you look at this scenario as we do, we see people stuggling for political freedom and women struggling for equality. If you look at it as Obamas mentor, i.e. the Saudi King does, he sees a revolt against the established authority, the corresponding threat to his own kingdom, and the thought that passes through his mind is there but for the grace of Allah goeth I and my family. Which of those are more important to Barack. The reaction of the American People, or the survival instincts of the Saudi Royal Family to whom he owes everything, from his Harvard education, his seat on law review, and his financial support in this election. My guess is that is what has really got him paralyzed.

  80. JEEZUS!

    All he!! is breaking out in Tehran.

    The British Embassy is accepting wounded. The metro is being blocked to keep people from reaching the inner city. Gunfire is erupting again.

    Where the F**K is our GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!

    Wbboei, Agreed BO doesn’t give a sh!t about us or the US.

  81. wbboei,
    I am sickened by BM. I turned on the tube to see if i could find live coverage and NOTHING except for Fox! MSNBC is showing some court story. Headline News has some non-news guy on. CNN is interviewing a teenage twiterrer.

    The tweets I’m reading are from people so concerned with getting their info to CNN. WHY? They’re not covering it.

    In the meantime, protests now going on in Georgetown in support of Iranian students.

  82. Moussavi said “If I’m arrested the country should go on strike.”

    (according to many twitters)

    And this message from an anonymous twitterer says it all, doesn’t it?

    ‘Where is the world when needed, afraid of Iran going Nuclear but forgetting them when the People want to rise against evil’

  83. In Mr. Obama, I smell fear, and little else.
    ************
    That, I think is the correct diagnosis. Events are getting beyond a Favreau speech and a sociopath’s greatest fear, exposure as a fraud is a possibility.

  84. I am sickened by BM. I turned on the tube to see if i could find live coverage and NOTHING except for Fox! MSNBC is showing some court story. Headline News has some non-news guy on. CNN is interviewing a teenage twiterrer.
    ————————————-
    Basil: never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake. This is the biggest story of the decade, and they refuse to cover it. Are they a news organization or if not what are they? Does CNN not have the largest reporting infrastructure in the world? Do they lack the resources to cover this or is it an editorial decision. Is this not conclusive proof of their corruption? Does not not show beyond cavil that they are nothing more than a propagnada mill for the administration? In sum, if we want the truth, then why in the world would anyone with common sense go to them for it?

  85. what do you all expect? O does not have time this weekend for all this stuff…it was bad enough last night he was interrupted from his weekend to have to go tell some jokes to his radio and tv supporters… this is father’s day weekend … he wants to be left alone to golf (no cameras allowed) be pampered and have some down time…geesh…

    the country…and the world can wait…while his next speech is written for him and is uploaded onto his teleprompter…later…

  86. He’s a muslim, and its against his religion to kill fellow muslims. Thats why he did not want to get into the pirate thing. This is why he is not getting into this.
    The govt.muslims in Iran are of the same kind as Bin Laden. Our President is the peaceful muslim. So there you go, he isn’t going to do a thing. The Supreme Leader knows this, that is why he can get away with saying it was Hillary fault in Waco.
    He is weak, his “can’t we all just get along” phrase is going to wear very thin on the Americans pretty soon.
    We need Hillary, McCain and lets throw in Palin for good measure, then something would get done.

  87. btw…what credibility does he have in calling for all the votes to be counted…when he surpressed Michigan and Florida in the US…and he ‘won’ the nomination with a system of caucuses that allowed his strong arm ‘supporters’ to intimidate and surpress his opponent’s older and less confrontational supporters…what a charade…

  88. Krauthammer on Fox just ripped BO a new one ion a measured, logical and scathing way.

    He said that if BO doen’t ‘adjust’ his postion on Iran soon, it will be a moment of shame for the US. Europe is way out in front of us with France protesters turning out 90,000 strong in Paris.

    He went on to say this is a revolution, not just a campaign or an election hinging on ‘hanging chads.’
    In the meantime, Moussavi saying he’s ready to be martyred is evidently code for his supporters and may inflame the Shite-Sunni conflict.

  89. Foriegn embassies giving aid to the injured, because the hospitals are a trap. The pics I am seeing are awesome!

  90. SHV,
    I HOPE you’re right!
    ‘…exposure as a fraud is a possibility.’

    wbboei,
    It’s still shocking to realize there’s next to no coverage of the story. i confess I still find it unbeleivable but I’m thankful for twitter, even though I don’t tweet myself. At least news like this can’t be completely suppressed.

    S – I made the same point yesterday! How can BO challenge a ‘selection’ when he was the beneficiary of a similar rigging here?

  91. S your right he himself is a selected candidate. I would like to know how the selection committee feels now??

  92. Krauthammer comparing the 1979 Iran uprising to this one and says an authentic revolution is possible.

    The question is will the middle class join in and will the students continue protesting after today? If yes, he predicts the current regime will fall.

  93. Don’t care for the NYT but this liveblog is good.

    thelede dot blogs dot nytimes.com/2009/06/20/saturday-updates-on-irans-disputed-election/

  94. ‘now there letting snakes out into the crowd, WTF!’

    What do you mean?
    *********
    There is a lot of crap coming across on twitter. I think a lot of immature adolescents are stirring up sh*t…”The courage of the non-combatant”

  95. This tweetsounds disturbingly familiar, doesn’t it?

    ‘State press is reporting lies, and minimizing crowds, maxing army numbers.’

    SHV,
    I thought confloyd might mean something other than actual ‘snakes’ but you’re probably right.

  96. Martyrdom is the lynchpin of the shite theology and it’s what led to the 1979 Iranian Revolution, according to Krauthammer.

    It’s like crucifixion to Christians. By stressing martyrdom, Moussavhe inflames the shite-sunni conflict and strengthens and inspires his supporters.

    One of the main Shite rite is the one where they beat themselves and draw blood – can’t remember the name – so martyrdom is especially important to them.

    Just on Fox – 55 killed in truck bombing in a Shite mosque and the death toll is rising..

    .

  97. I guess some of the stuff coming across twitter is crap, but alot isn’t.
    Its interesting what Krauthammer is saying about Mousavi saying he is ready martyrdom. He says this is a signal to his followers to step it up.

  98. per persiankiwi, hospitals are reporting hundreds of casualities. from another twitter, a call for air drops from America for gas masks and such, I wonder if this is bogus or not??

  99. The Supreme Leader knows this, that is why he can get away with saying it was Hillary fault in Waco.
    ——————————–
    As if we needed any more proof that the Supreme Leader is a right wing nut.

  100. Martyrdom is the lynchpin of the shite theology and it’s what led to the 1979 Iranian Revolution, according to Krauthammer.

    It’s like crucifixion to Christians. By stressing martyrdom, Moussavhe inflames the shite-sunni conflict and strengthens and inspires his supporters.
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    The dark tragic beauty of death for a noble cause. I would say the Supreme Leader has a tiger by the tail, and Bambi by his balls. From the Spartans who held the bridge at Thereompolae, to the U.S. Marines on Guadalcanal, to every prophet who has persecuted for the truth, there is something transcendent about someone who decides they are already dead, and are fighting on like a ghost for the sake of posterity.

  101. I started the day with CNN, and now I am watching FOX.
    CNN saying crowds are small and are expected to disapate and fizzle out. Obama is right staying out of it.
    Fox is saying crowds are large and that violent events are taking place. There is a chance the govt. will fall and Obama needs to speak up.
    What a difference in what is being said. Our BM is almost as bad as the one in IRAN!

  102. As if we needed any more proof that the Supreme Leader is a right wing nut.
    **********
    He is also utterly ruthless. He was one of the main people directing the course of the Iran-Iraq war. He has and had great influence with the revolutionary guards. Years ago I talk to a young Iranian doctor who, as a university student had been sent to the “front” in the swamps near Basra. His unit had no training and was poorly armed. During on frontal assault on an Iraqi position, he noticed that most of the members of his unit were on the ground having convulsions from “nerve gas”. He was lucky, he was one of the few with a gas mask…he basically said “fu*k this” and headed for Kuwait and then to England and the US. Because of people like “the Supreme Leader” 800,000 Iranians died.

  103. ‘I would say the Supreme Leader has a tiger by the tail, and Bambi by his balls.’

    I’m not quite sure BO has any.

    ‘CNN saying crowds are small and are expected to disapate and fizzle out. Obama is right staying out of it.
    Fox is saying crowds are large and that violent events are taking place.’

    I believe Fox.

  104. His unit had no training and was poorly armed. During on frontal assault on an Iraqi position, he noticed that most of the members of his unit were on the ground having convulsions from “nerve gas”. He was lucky, he was one of the few with a gas mask…he basically said “fu*k this” and headed for Kuwait and then to England and the US. Because of people like “the Supreme Leader” 800,000 Iranians died.
    —————————————————–
    This reminds me of Marshall Zhuzkov’s tactics on the Eastern Front in World War II. Inhuman.

    And what can be said of those tactics can also be said of the man who deploys them: inhuman–the supreme leader.

    For Bambi to bow and scrape and hold his tongue in these circumstances is outrageous.

    Perhaps now the world can see what Israel is up against.

    Since Bambi is so addicted to moral equivencies how can he possibly object to a comparison between him and Chamberlain.

    If history teaches us anything, then surely it instructs us that turning a blind eye to autrocity will never lead to lasting peace.

  105. Who is giving the orders to the soldiers to kill?

    “Mousavi saying he is ready martyrdom”

    “Bambi is saying and acting like he is ready for martydom/sainthood too.”

    Makes you wonder how he would react to a homegrown rebellion in his own back yard.

  106. Hope and Change — but Not for Iran

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, June 19, 2009

    Millions of Iranians take to the streets to defy a theocratic dictatorship that, among its other finer qualities, is a self-declared enemy of America and the tolerance and liberties it represents. The demonstrators are fighting on their own, but they await just a word that America is on their side.

    And what do they hear from the president of the United States? Silence. Then, worse. Three days in, the president makes clear his policy: continued “dialogue” with their clerical masters.

    Dialogue with a regime that is breaking heads, shooting demonstrators, expelling journalists, arresting activists. Engagement with — which inevitably confers legitimacy upon — leaders elected in a process that begins as a sham (only four handpicked candidates permitted out of 476) and ends in overt rigging.

    Then, after treating this popular revolution as an inconvenience to the real business of Obama-Khamenei negotiations, the president speaks favorably of “some initial reaction from the Supreme Leader that indicates he understands the Iranian people have deep concerns about the election.”

    Where to begin? “Supreme Leader”? Note the abject solicitousness with which the American president confers this honorific on a clerical dictator who, even as his minions attack demonstrators, offers to examine some returns in some electoral districts — a farcical fix that will do nothing to alter the fraudulence of the election.

    Moreover, this incipient revolution is no longer about the election. Obama totally misses the point. The election allowed the political space and provided the spark for the eruption of anti-regime fervor that has been simmering for years and awaiting its moment. But people aren’t dying in the street because they want a recount of hanging chads in suburban Isfahan. They want to bring down the tyrannical, misogynist, corrupt theocracy that has imposed itself with the very baton-wielding goons that today attack the demonstrators.

    This started out about election fraud. But like all revolutions, it has far outgrown its origins. What’s at stake now is the very legitimacy of this regime — and the future of the entire Middle East.

    This revolution will end either as a Tiananmen (a hot Tiananmen with massive and bloody repression or a cold Tiananmen with a finer mix of brutality and co-optation) or as a true revolution that brings down the Islamic Republic.

    The latter is improbable but, for the first time in 30 years, not impossible. Imagine the repercussions. It would mark a decisive blow to Islamist radicalism, of which Iran today is not just standard-bearer and model, but financier and arms supplier. It would do to Islamism what the collapse of the Soviet Union did to communism — leave it forever spent and discredited.

    In the region, it would launch a second Arab spring. The first in 2005 — the expulsion of Syria from Lebanon, the first elections in Iraq and early liberalization in the Gulf states and Egypt — was aborted by a fierce counterattack from the forces of repression and reaction, led and funded by Iran.

    Now, with Hezbollah having lost elections in Lebanon and with Iraq establishing the institutions of a young democracy, the fall of the Islamist dictatorship in Iran would have an electric and contagious effect. The exception — Iraq and Lebanon — becomes the rule. Democracy becomes the wave. Syria becomes isolated; Hezbollah and Hamas, patronless. The entire trajectory of the region is reversed.

    All hangs in the balance. The Khamenei regime is deciding whether to do a Tiananmen. And what side is the Obama administration taking? None. Except for the desire that this “vigorous debate” (press secretary Robert Gibbs’s disgraceful euphemism) over election “irregularities” not stand in the way of U.S.-Iranian engagement on nuclear weapons.

    Even from the narrow perspective of the nuclear issue, the administration’s geopolitical calculus is absurd. There is zero chance that any such talks will denuclearize Iran. On Monday, President Ahmadinejad declared yet again that the nuclear “file is shut, forever.” The only hope for a resolution of the nuclear question is regime change, which (if the successor regime were as moderate as pre-Khomeini Iran) might either stop the program, or make it manageable and nonthreatening.

    That’s our fundamental interest. And our fundamental values demand that America stand with demonstrators opposing a regime that is the antithesis of all we believe.

    And where is our president? Afraid of “meddling.” Afraid to take sides between the head-breaking, women-shackling exporters of terror — and the people in the street yearning to breathe free. This from a president who fancies himself the restorer of America’s moral standing in the world.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/18/AR2009061803495.html?sub=AR

    —————————–

    “And where is our president?”

    Exactly!

  107. Anyone else read that BO called the Iranian government response ‘Traditional crowd control methods’?????????????

  108. Just on Fox apparently Hillary is getting live updates from Iran. Thats good news, I just hope she can speak and not muzzled like those women in Iran!

  109. Mousavi saying he is ready martyrdom. Assuming he is killed, what will his spokesman say to the world about him, the Supreme Leader, and Bambi the god that failed? How can Bambi then sit down before the world and negotiate with an administration that slaughters innocents? Someone, possibly the film maker spokesman will answer that question on celluolid and it will win the blue ribbon at Cannes. That is one swoiree Bambi will miss. Here is part of what Marc Anthony said on a similar occasion:
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    Good friends, sweet friends, let me not stir you up to such a sudden flood of mutiny. They that have done this deed are honorable. What private griefs they have, alas, I know not what made them do it. They are wise and honorable and will, no doubt, with reasons answer you.

    I come not, friends, to steal away your hearts. I am no orator, as Brutus is; but, as you know me all, a plain blunt man, that loves my friend and that they know full well that gave me public leave to speak of him — for I have neither wit, nor words, nor worth, action nor utterance, nor the power of speech to stir men’s blood.

    I only speak right on; I tell you that which you yourselves do know; show you sweet Caesar’s wounds, poor dumb mouths, and bid them speak for me …

    but were I Brutus, and Brutus, Anthony, there were an Anthony would ruffle up your spirits and put a tongue in every wound of Caesar that should move the stones of Rome to rise and mutiny.

  110. Wbboei: I amvery alarmed about the Glenn Beck alert that $144.5Billion US Treasury Bonds were being cashed in by two Japanese men intercepted by customs in Italy.This could be a complete crash of the US Dollar and our economy.Dangerous stuff and not a word from MSM or our own agencies.Smells bad and the flies are swarming at the Oval Office.Beck might be a nut in the way he presents an issue but he is not afraid to take on either side.Fox is with him on this one and they are doing their utmost to find any one that can talk about this very serious event that took place last week.another leg from the three-legged stool about to be pulled off.This appears to be the worst scenario that BO has created since the DNC stole the votes from Hillary and presented them to The Lord of the Flies.I am much to old to be very active but you youngsters out there can take an example from the young in Iran that are fighting for their country and willing to fight and die for it.Nathan Hale said it so well
    “Give me liberty or give me death”
    You wonderful young un’s are our pride and joy,our national treasure,please take Hillary and run with her to rescue us from the evil that is fast at work destroying this great democracy.

    By ABM90 I am one angry old man but count me in.

  111. Obama to Iran: ‘Stop All Violent and Unjust Actions’

    President Obama has issued a statement calling directly on the government of Iran to halt the violence in response to the uprising there. His statement:

    The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.

    As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.

    Martin Luther King once said — “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples’ belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.

    voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/06/20/obama_to_iran_stop_all_violent.html?wprss=44

  112. It seems they like to shoot people in the eye. The one I saw was of a young woman. Its horrible, where is our President??

  113. ABM,

    I’m not sure but I think that story was a hoax.

    NYT commenter speculates video of innocent women shot from rooftop will be catalyst for revolution. Horrible video to watch .

    I am not going to post it here. Go to twitter search, iranelections to see it. A gorgeous young woman, her life snuffed out within seconds.
    One of the many tragedies happening all over iran, today.

  114. ABM90, if your post is correct and that cNN has financial connections to the current regime in Tehran, then we know why BO isn’t doing anything. He is one of them and the terrorists are taking us over without a shot being fired.
    How can Obama say the normal methods of crowd control is being used?? What is he blind!

  115. I guess when your only experience is neighborhood organizer you have no experience as to what a normal crowd, and what a revolutionary crowd looks like.

  116. (True Revolution) is improbable but, for the first time in 30 years, not impossible. Imagine the repercussions. It would mark a decisive blow to Islamist radicalism, of which Iran today is not just standard-bearer and model, but financier and arms supplier. It would do to Islamism what the collapse of the Soviet Union did to communism — leave it forever spent and discredited.
    ———————————–
    Krauthammer is right on all counts, this paragraph in particular. Iran is the center of gravity of radical Islam. If that regime were to fall, then many of the things Bambi professes to want would stand a better chance of succeeding. If the end result could be a deomocratic Iran and a Democratic Iraq then it would change the nature and the dynamic throughout the region. Thus, Bambis refusal to engage is pathetic and antithetical to our goals. When not Islam, but Radical Islam threatens the world, and the forces of democracy are rallying, it is madness for the supposed leader of the free world to fold his hand?

  117. Vincent Del Giudice | Bloomberg Thursday, June 18
    U.S. Says Treasury Bonds Seized in Italy Are ‘Clearly Fakes’

    U.S. government bonds found in the false bottom of a suitcase carried by two Japanese travelers attempting to cross into Switzerland are fake, a Treasury spokesman said.

  118. If this is normal crowd control measures to Bambi, then the Gulag Arhagpeligo is just a fine winter resort in Siberia, which is widely celebrated for its borsht and vodka boilermakers. How is that for moral equivalency?

  119. Obama to Iran: ‘Stop All Violent and Unjust Actions’
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    Hillary finally got through to him.

  120. twitted in the last few minutes 10 helicopters landed at the university and are filled with guns for the Banji.

  121. Obama’s failure to react in a timely manner proves he is not a credible leader of the free world. His words came too little and too late. He has reduced the US to irrelevance in the eyes of the world.

  122. Wbboei: I amvery alarmed about the Glenn Beck alert that $144.5Billion US Treasury Bonds were being cashed in by two Japanese men intercepted by customs in Italy.
    —————————–
    I understand they are counterfeit, in which case the question is who, and why. Under one scenario, it could be some state actor trying to destroy our currency–North Korea for example. Under another scenario. it could be a major criminal enterprise–the Italian Mafia, or possibly the Japanese Mafia. Under yet another scenario, it could be Russia or China acting in furtherance of their stategy to move to away from the dollar. Without more information, however, it is an imponderable.

  123. Bambis belated call to end the violence is a tactical victory for Hillary. As you know his instransigence was supported by people in the administration that big media refused to identify although it was quite specific that Hillary and Joe felt we could not sit on our hands. I am reasonably sure that Powers and Rice favored inaction because they support the Arab regimes in general, and because they were risk adverse. However, as time went on and the violence escalated, Krauthammer and Republicans weighed in, the risk adverse position itself became risk adverse and he was forced to yield. Thus, Hillary was proven right and Power/Rice were show to be wrong.

  124. So if we take account of the mistakes he has made so far, they are:

    1. first, he drew a false moral eqivalency between leaders

    2. second, he failed to speak out on the election fraud which occurred.

    3 third, he failed to condemn the violence ever after people died.

    What will he continue to do if the violence and repression continue?

  125. wbboei,

    I doubt she’ll ever get the credit for this. Instead, they will spin it as her fault.

    ‘Thus, Hillary was proven right and Power/Rice were show to be wrong.’

  126. In the midst of all this failure and folly by Obama, MSNBC produces a video of him in a superhero suit. They are utterly detatched from reality.

  127. Apparently they have arrested some Women’s activist. Now they are arresting the women. THey shoot, arrest, beat them. THis is what Islam is about. The suppression of women.

  128. i dunnio about Moussavi’s arrest, con floyd.

    I DO know now why you’re a twitterer!

    BTW, This comment struck me as a spot-on commentary of BO’s embarrassingly spineless reaction to the riots.

    “Mr. Fan? This is Mr. Sh!t. Oh. Sorry. I see that Mr. Sh!t has already introduced himself.”

  129. I doubt she’ll ever get the credit for this. Instead, they will spin it as her fault.

    ‘Thus, Hillary was proven right and Power/Rice were show to be wrong.’
    ——————————————————
    Basil: it is too late for them to spin it as her fault. They are already on record noting that she favored engagement over intransigence and he has now adopted her line. The evidence if there.

  130. basil9, I just go to twitterfall and watch them rollover. When persiankiwi rolls across I click on his name and read all his posts for the last few hours. There are several good ones, but persiankiwi is the best.

  131. I can’t help thinking that if HRC had rejected the fraudulent DNC selection the way Moussavi has rejected the ahmadinijand selection we’d be in a much better place.

    The US selection was just as corrupt, if not more so, than the Iran one. Just as you can’t count millions of votes in 2 hours and proclaim a winner, you can’t illegally strip one candidate of earned delegates and call it fair.

    What a friggin’ farce.

  132. wbboei,
    Well, you’re probably right but she’ll still never get the credit and i don’t see how a ‘told-you-so’ meme can help her, now.

    (see my 4:27 post)

  133. confloyd,

    It really is addictive, isn’t it? Fascinating to watch the drama unfolding second by second, as long as you weed out the scams, that is.

    Almost makes me want to sign up.

  134. At some point the delusions of big media cease to be our problem. It is enough that we simply follow the evidence where it leads, draw rational inferences and mock the way big media lies about it.

  135. Well, you’re probably right but she’ll still never get the credit and i don’t see how a ‘told-you-so’ meme can help her, now.
    ———————————————–
    The insiders know she won this round.

  136. Just imagine Bambi coming out speaking against the fraudulent election when Ahmadinejad knows full well Obama’s election to the US Presidency was as fraudulent as his own.

    The primary reason for Obama’s softball statements and silence.

  137. Sorry to be so cynical but the f**ing ‘insiders’ haven’t lifted a finger to help her so what the heck good are they?

    And are you so sure she’s still trying to ‘win?’

    And if so, win what? She had her chance to ‘win’ and she didn’t follow through.

    Sorry, like i said I’m especially pessimistic today.

  138. Mrs. Smith,

    I’d agree if i didn’t think BO was such a psychopath he either doesn’t care or doesn’t realize how hypocritical he is.

    BTW – thanks for the good wishes the other day.

  139. confloyd,

    For starters, we should condemn Iran the way the House and the Senate did the other day, IMHO.

  140. Well thats what I thought. I can’t see any military intervention that would help. Maybe something from the UN, huh??

  141. There are rumors of troops movements 10,000. Lets hope that once those troops get there, they lay down their guns and join the protesters. They did that in 79′.

  142. Bambi isn’t getting much love on twitter…One comment sums it up: “Obama isn’t the Messiah, he is just Jimmy Carter with a tan!”

  143. SHV, LOL!! These elite liberals never got the chance to finish Jimmy Carters term. He only got one term, so now they get to finish it.

    I used to like some of the things Carter did for humanity, but now when I see him I think how he has stabbed Israel in the back.

    He is supposed to be a Christian and he should know there isn’t any way to make peace in the Middle East without it being Armaggaden.

  144. Barf Alert!

    Just heard the latest BOT talking point.

    It goes like this: BO is crediting his Cairo speech for inspiring Iran’s large under-30 population to fight for democracy!

    I kid you not! That’s what one of the WH spokesmen just said with a straight face during a Fox interview.
    I have to confess, I have had nightmares about the young people in iran being as stupid as those in the US and falling into step behind DLBO.
    😯

    Talk about a messiah complex!

  145. confloyd,

    Fox has been showing a lot of side-by-side clips of the 79 uprising and today’s crisis.

    looks VERY familiar.

  146. This is going to be the emptiest presidency to ever occur in the history of the United States.

    Presidential accomplishments: 0

    Presidential procrastination: 100%

    Presidential bullying: 100%

    Presidential hotair: 150%

    Presidential plagiarism/theft of ideas, theft of democracy, theft of election:

    1000%

    And finally:

    Presidential corruption: 100%

  147. The govt. is definitely reading twitter. The Banji is at the embassies giving first aid. Those bastards. It should be basic human right to get medical help.

  148. Obama Jokes about Hillary Clinton Suing for Broken Elbow

    By Sandra Sobieraj Westfall

    June 20, 2009

    A bulletin from President Obama:

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s fall in the State Department basement this week might have been caused by rival Richard Holbrooke – long suspected of coveting the Secretary’s title – slicking the floor with WD-40.

    Obama said his first reaction to news that Clinton’s fractured elbow would require surgery was to brace for yet another fiscal crisis. “Fortunately, the lawyers tell me Hillary’s ready to settle,” he quipped at Washington’s annual Radio & Television Correspondents’ Dinner Friday night.

    The President added that the annual event had ruined his extravagant, weekly date night. “I was supposed to take Michelle out for Thai food,” he told the black-tie audience of news broadcasters. “In Bangkok.”

    Obama also joked about sleeping with NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams, who spent a much-ballyhooed full day with Obama for a three-part special about life inside the White House. Williams, the President said, “was a bad house guest. He left his wet towels in the Roosevelt Room and we’re pretty sure he clogged the toilet and didn’t tell anyone about it.”

    people.com/people/article/0,,20286514,00.html

  149. It must be true, that there is 10,000 military men in the street. Twitter is full of how many there is. That would be about right for them to kill them in the dark of the night. Hard to film it.

  150. Obama taps 3 more big donors for ambassadorships

    By MATTHEW LEE

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama on Friday named three more big fundraisers and contributors to his presidential campaign to ambassadorships in Sweden, Italy and Morocco.

    Obama also tapped career diplomats for posts in the Solomon Islands, Croatia, Tajikistan, Georgia and Uganda.

    Obama nominated Louisville, Ky., technology entrepreneur and business executive Matthew Barzun, who raised more than $500,000 for the campaign, to be the next U.S. ambassador to Sweden, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks money in politics. Barzun, owner of the internet publisher Brickpath LLC and a prolific contributor to Democratic candidates, personally donated $4,600 to Obama’s campaign and $2,300 to now Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s primary run, according to the center. He also contributed $25,000 to Obama’s inauguration fund. Barzun and his family contributed more than $290,000 to political campaigns and groups during the 2008 election cycle, it said.

    Another major fundraiser — Minneapolis lawyer Samuel Kaplan, who along with his wife, Sylvia, brought in between $100,000 and $200,000 for Obama’s campaign — was nominated to be ambassador to Morocco. Samuel Kaplan donated the maximum personal amount of $4,600 to Obama’s campaign and another $1,000 to Clinton’s, according to the center.

    Obama named Ertharin Cousin, a Chicago lawyer and expert in food security who served as a consultant and senior adviser to his campaign to be the next U.S. ambassador to the Rome-based U.N. agencies for Food and Agriculture. Although not listed as an Obama fundraiser, Cousin personally contributed $4,600 to his campaign, according to the center.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j5O6bTeAIZ70JAPcr3r1N5ynaoLQD98U14MO1

  151. U.S. Chamber of Commerce Campaigns Against Obama Health Plan

    By Heidi Przybyla

    June 20 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation’s largest business lobbying group, began a campaign against President Barack Obama’s health-care plan, calling on its membership to “push back” against Democratic bills being written on Capitol Hill.

    Bruce Josten, the chamber’s executive vice president, criticized several elements of the plan, including one calling for a mandate that employers provide health insurance for workers.

    In a June 12 meeting, the chamber urged at least 75 of its member organizations and companies to write letters to members of Congress to oppose the plan. Josten said he asked members to begin “educating and alerting their grassroots and getting them to weigh in and push back.”

    Since June 17, the chamber’s member organizations have sent 36,000 letters, e-mails and faxes to the Senate health and finance committees expressing their opposition, Josten said. Members are also focusing on Obama’s push to create a government-run option similar to Medicare. “It’s just beginning because you ramp up,” Josten said in an interview. “If done well and done quickly we’re adding some political leverage” for leaders on the Senate Finance Committee, which is drafting legislation that may not include a government-run health plan or requirement that employers provide insurance. “The Senate Finance Committee now represents the last, best hope,” Josten said.

    Broader Effort

    The effort may become part of a broader, multi-million- dollar campaign Chamber President Tom Donohue has announced to oppose Obama agenda items such as government regulation of the auto and financial sectors, said Josten.

    Earlier today, House Democrats presented a draft bill that would require employers to insure their workers or pay a penalty equal to 8 percent of their payroll.

    Health Care for America NOW, a grassroots organization with more than 1,000 members in 46 states including unions and consumer groups, is planning to spend $82 million over the next several months to promote Obama’s plan. “It’s extraordinary that the organized business lobby would form an opposition to a plan that actually will save businesses a huge amount of money,” said Richard Kirsch, national campaign director for the America NOW group. “We have the Chamber of Commerce not representing the interests of its members but taking a right-wing, ideological approach to health care,” he said. Kirsch also said, “We knew it was coming.”

    Business Unity

    At least one of the chamber’s leading members, Bentonville, Arkansas-based Wal-Mart Stores Inc., has not taken a position on the public option. “The legislative process is just beginning, said Greg Rossiter, a Wal-Mart spokesman. In an opinion editorial earlier this month, Wal-Mart President and Chief Executive Mike Duke said health care “is too important to let special interests choose sides, go to their corners and battle it out.”

    Jody Hoffman, executive director for Better Health Care Together, a coalition of employers including Dallas-based AT&T Inc., Santa Clara, California-based Intel Corp. and Wal-Mart, said it’s too early to organize either for or against Obama’s agenda. “We think it’s important to take a deep breath and look at things calmly,” she said. “When we see a whole bill we will be able to have a rational reaction.”

    The Chamber-led effort will escalate next week, when Josten plans to hold a conference call with all of the state and metro chambers to brief them, he said.

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aIJFQW.5d5yo#

  152. REPORT CARD OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
    (Note: I am trying to be objective here)

    1. Media Relations . . . . . . . . . . . A+

    2. Global Celebrity . . . . . . . . . . . . B

    3. Grace Under Fire. . . . . . . . . . . . D

    4. National Security . . . . . . . . . . . D

    5. Economic Recovery . . . . . . . . . .F–

    6. Head of Government . . . . . . . . . D

    8. Foreign Policy Conduct . . . . . . . .D

    9. Equal Protection . . . . . . . . . . . . F

    10. Freedom of Speech . . . . . . . . . . D

    11. Government Surveillance . . . . . . . F

    10. Abuse of Power . . . . . . . . . . . . . .F
    —————————————-
    A= Excellent (4)
    B= Good (3)
    C= Average (2)
    D= Poor (1)
    F= Fail (0)

    GPA: 1.2 (Note: assuming all criteria are equal. In fact 5. has greater weight than all other criteria in re. 2010 andd 2012.)

  153. wbboei,

    You are far too lenient with your grading. hehehehe.

    Confloyd, I’m checking twitterfall (thanks for the tip) and twitter search in between writing a County Legislature article. VERY BORING!!!!!! Filled with therefores and whereas’s and now-therefore-be-it- resolved’s.

    i hate legalese!

  154. ‘Obama Jokes about Hillary Clinton Suing for Broken Elbow’

    i couldn’t bring myself tor ead that article. 😡

  155. BO is crediting his Cairo speech for inspiring Iran’s large under-30 population to fight for democracy!

    I kid you not! That’s what one of the WH spokesmen just said with a straight face during a Fox interview.
    ————————————————
    So then it wasnt religious conviction, martyrdom, the convictions of the the candidate, the overreaction by the supreme leader, the luncacy of adminhijad, the warnings by the british, and his subsequent refusal to endorse their efforts, it was all just that Cairo speech wherein he pretty much endorsed the status quo. If anyone had any doubts that he is a sociopath, the time for doubt has passed with this one. This must be the followup joke after the one he told about Hillary falling.

  156. Anyone else see the protesters outside the UN in NYC with signs reading WHERE’S MY VOTE!!!!

    Why the he!! didn’t AMERICANS rise up during the DNC Robbery?

  157. ‘If anyone had any doubts that he is a sociopath, the time for doubt has passed with this one.’

    I know! It’s terrifying that he’s in the WH.

  158. basil, I can imagine. Looks like the fight is continuing thru the night. The govt in all their glory has now made this protest about an election has now made it into a freedom movement. The protesters are now since watching their bros and sis’s killed in the street, are now wanting freedom from this repressive regime. They will get it if they just keep fighting.
    Bloodshed is never the answer, I bet the Aytollah and Ahmendinejad is worrying whether they are going to be in power much longer. The more murderous they become it shows the world they are scared of the protesters.

  159. (Sorry for the length but this article doesn’t miss a thing) (IMHO)
    The Platform of the NOBAMA Party (from Pajamas Media)
    In foreign and national security policy, they believe in not equivocating between a despotic regime and citizens peacefully rallying to protest a rigged election and repudiate a repressive regime. They believe in not lying about the history and the relative moral claims of the Israelis and Palestinians. They believe in not lauding “engagement“ with despots as an end unto itself, without regard for how that engagement bestows legitimacy on venal regimes. They believe in not leaving out human rights from the foreign policy agenda because it might give offense.

    They believe in not sitting through anti-American rants and making light of it afterwards. They believe in not apologizing for dropping the atomic bomb on Japan.
    They believe in not curtailing missile defense at a time when rogue states are acquiring their own nuclear arsenals. They believe in not forcing the Defense Department to make “hard choices” while domestic spending goes through the roof. They believe in not moving terrorists out of a safe and secure facility for the sake of making Europeans (who won’t take the terrorists into their countries) think better of us. They believe in not punishing officials of prior administrations for protecting us from terror attacks.
    In domestic policy, they believe in not passing a $1 trillion stimulus plan (including interest) only to later fess up that the promised employment is never going to materialize. They believe in not passing an omnibus spending bill with 9,000 earmarks and calling it “old business.” They believe in not taking away the secret ballot from workers and not imposing labor contracts through government arbitrators. They believe in not micromanaging the economy by controlling the emissions of thousands of businesses and not raising $800B in taxes in the name of controlling greenhouse gases, which China and India refuse to limit. They believe in not instituting a “public option” for health care. They believe in not rationing health care. They believe in not spending over a trillion dollars so healthcare can be delivered as poorly as the U.S. mail. They believe in not taking over failing car companies. They believe in not racking up trillions and trillions in debt. They believe in not vilifying business and the investor class which create wealth and jobs.
    In the legal realm, they believe in not adhering to identity politics and the endless pursuit of equality of outcomes. They believe in not converting the rule of law into a social welfare experiment in which “empathy” rather than textual interpretation reigns supreme. They believe in not trampling the property rights of those who invested in companies and are entitled to have their rights protected in bankruptcy court.
    In governance, they believe in not attacking media figures from the White House. They believe in not politicizing the Census Bureau. They believe in not politicizing the Justice Department. They believe in not concealing what is in multi-billion dollar bills so votes can be rushed through before opposition mounts. They believe in not hiring tax cheats and not exempting oodles of advisors from ethics rules.

  160. The eye-witness account of that poor girl killed in front of her family posted all over twitter.

    “A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed to try to save her. But the impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the victim’s chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes.”

    atlas shrugs has a still photo of the woman. Is this going to be the face that laun ches a revolution?

  161. Fox is now reporting on hundreds wounded, dozens killed, confirming acid poured from helicopters.

  162. Fox is now reporting on hundreds wounded, dozens killed, confirming acid poured from helicopters.
    —————————
    Basil: perhaps I am looking at this the wrong way. Perhaps we should let him attribute this to his Cairo speech after all.

    If could then be looked upon as his BAY OF PIGS.

  163. wbboei,

    Again, sorry for the cynicism but that didn’t hurt JFK much, did it?

    What do you think of this? Fox just rported that Moussavi said “Keeo Hope Alive.” Wasn’t that BC’s line? Or does it sound like he’s signaling BO? I confess, I get very paranoid sometimes but i swear i wouldn’t put anything past that POS.

  164. wbboei, I hate when the imposter jokes about Hillary, it isn’t funny.
    —————————————————————-
    I do too confloyd. That is always my first instinct. My second instinct is to wonder how she takes it. She has a different sense of humor than I do. When that little snot nosed speech writer did the groping routine she turned it into a joke. Perhaps this crap from Obama makes her laugh as well. He is certainly acknowledging her and trying to make light of what happened. Biden zings him and Bambi zings him back. I am sure she does too. Believe me. I still hate his fucking guts.

  165. It bothers me no end that Moussavi, is the lesser of two evils but not by much. I believe he is taking advantage of this tragic situation.

  166. Check this link with a story juxtaposing the bloodshed in Iran with Bo taking his daughters for ice cream.

    He has no CONSCIENCE!

    hotair dot com/archives/2009/06/20/contrast-iranian-protestors-shot-as-obama-goes-for-ice-cream/

  167. Again, sorry for the cynicism but that didn’t hurt JFK much, did it?
    ————————————————————-
    We will never know because he never stood for re election and that is the time that these past mistakes are revisited. It hurt his standing and the standing of the Democratic Party with Cubans for fifty years. Also, JFK was a mediocre President who became a martyr. But he was my president, and Obama never will be. JFK was a legitimate war hero, he had judgment, and he was not a sociopath. He learned from his mistakes. But for Bambi it is a different story. He has deep character flaws and will make similar mistakes in the future. He is already toast with respect to the economy. He is an excellent candidate for regime change. I will tell you what I tell myself: be patient, the law of probability is on your side.

  168. basil9: According to Fox when they called treasury about the bonds,a spokesman said the had not seen the bonds in question other thann those shown on a website and they did not seem genuine to him.Fox then asked if any of our specialists would examine them but he had no idea as to their whereabouts as well as the two Japanese smugglers.Somehow I feel there is a gigantic coverup going on and MSM is involved.Perhaps the dollar is going become small change.Hope I am wrong.Time will tel but we really do not have much time left as the Lord of the Flies destroys our great democracy.

    By ABM90 Impeachment must be next,for love of country.

  169. What do you think of this? Fox just rported that Moussavi said “Keeo Hope Alive.” Wasn’t that BC’s line? Or does it sound like he’s signaling BO? I confess, I get very paranoid sometimes but i swear i wouldn’t put anything past that POS.
    ——————————————-
    Well don’t be. Bambi does not have a copyright on the word hope. It is the antecdote to the dispair his supporters may be feeling right now as they are outmanned and outgunned. It is what you say when you want the fight to go on. I think Bambis prior statement that it did not matter too much who won burned any bridges that may have existed previously between him and the opposition candidate.

  170. ABM,

    I didn’t know that. Thanks for the clarification.

    wbboei, the law of probabilities, hmmmm?

    you’re probably right.
    I agree aboiut JFk having dozens of redeeming qualities, including heroism, while BO has none. Reports of him going for custard while iran collapses in chaos are all over twitter.

  171. Clinton grateful for safe return of US reporter

    Associated Press
    2009-06-21

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is thanking the governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan for their assistance in ensuring a New York Times reporter’s safe return.

    David Rohde was abducted Nov. 10 along with an Afghan reporter and a driver south of the Afghan capital of Kabul. He and Afghan reporter Tahi Ludin escaped by climbing over the wall of a compound in Pakistan.

    Clinton said throughout the ordeal her prayers were with Rohde’s family as the State Department sought to secure his release. She says she is “greatly relieved” that he will be reuniting soon with his family and is grateful to journalists who put their lives at risk to report the news.

    etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=982419&lang=eng_news

  172. I HOPE you’re right!

    ‘I think Bambis prior statement that it did not matter too much who won burned any bridges that may have existed previously between him and the opposition candidate.’

  173. LOL!

    The virtual vacationer.

    I wish he was just a character in one of those role-playing video games and we could zap him into oblivion.

  174. U.S. survivors to Clinton: Name neutral claims delegate

    By Cnaan Liphshiz

    The United States should follow Israel’s example and replace its top delegate to the Prague Conference on Holocaust Era Assets later this month for fear of “conflicting interests,” American survivors on Friday told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The survivors explained that attorney Stuart Eizenstat should be replaced as the U.S. representative because of his position with the Claims Conference – the world’s richest restitution body, which has been accused of irregularities.

    Last week the Foreign Ministry appointed Diaspora Minister Yuli Edelstein as Israel’s chief negotiator to Prague, in place of Reuven Merhav, a Claims Conference official. Merhav will be stay on as Israel’s number-two man. The switch came after Israeli survivors and NGOs complained of “a conflict of interest.”

    The Claims Conference (its full name is the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany), a U.S.-based NGO, has been accused of unjustly withholding from survivors and heirs funds it has collected on their behalf, charges that are currently under review by a Knesset committee of inquiry. Merhav, a former Mossad and Foreign Ministry official, has categorically denied the truth of such claims. He said “some people sometimes attack” his organization “to vent frustrations.”

    The Foreign Ministry described the June 26-30 Prague event – which is intended to review the restitution of looted Jewish property, and is to be attended by representatives from 50 countries – as “the last opportunity to set up a program to reclaim looted assets.” Poland, Ukraine and other countries have so far resisted paying out compensation for heirless Jewish property, whose value is estimated in the tens of billions of dollars.

    “The issue of having a Claims Conference man as the official head of a national government delegation has already been addressed and resolved by the Government of Israel,” David Schaecter, president of the Holocaust Survivors Foundation USA, wrote to Clinton. “It is unthinkable that the U.S. would hold itself to a lesser standard.”

    “We are very upset,” said Leo Rechter, 81, the Foundation’s secretary. Rechter, who survived the Holocaust in hiding in Brussels, added that survivors had “no confidence” in either the Claims Conference or Eizenstat, a former deputy secretary of the Treasury.

    A spokesperson for the Claims Conference, which to date has allotted some $70 billion in German reparation fees to Holocaust survivors and Jewish organizations, declined to comment on the letter. The State Department, which announced Eizenstat’s nomination to Prague last month, has also not yet replied to the letter.

    haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1094429.html

  175. Clinton urges countries to combat refugee crisis

    37 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the U.S. is committed to helping the world’s 34 million refugees build safe and fulfilling lives, calling their struggle a “humanitarian emergency.”

    In a statement released Saturday to commemorate World Refugee Day, Clinton called on the world community to end what she called “urgent refugee crises” in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chad, the Central African Republic and Darfur. She said she was encouraged by improving situations in Liberia, South Sudan, Burundi and Bhutan but said countries must pitch in to do more.

    “The crowded camps where refugees live are designed to be temporary, but many of the world’s displaced people become permanent residents,” she said. “Children are born there; parents die there; people fall in love, marry — even divorce there. Outside the camps, the world seeks a solution to their plight, a way to send them home safely or help them find new homes in new lands. “Inside the camps, the refugees wait and hope,” Clinton said.

    She said the U.S. will continue to support the United Nations and other international aid groups to help refugees, citing more than $1.4 billion the U.S. provided last year to support their work.

    “We stand with refugees because their struggle represents a humanitarian emergency,” she said. “We are committed to pursuing peace and prosperity in every corner — not only in the marble halls of governments, but also in the rural villages and distant cities where people strive to live, work, learn, raise families, contribute to their communities, and grow old with dignity.”

    Clinton was scheduled to make the remarks Thursday but had to cancel after she injured herself in a fall on Wednesday. On Friday she had successful surgery to repair a fractured right elbow. The State Department says she’s expected to make a full recovery.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZGYsYheVsHPDxZStHSXwgFQHnAAD98UMQ000

  176. BTW,

    The name of that beautiful young woman killed in front of her family whose video is all over the web is Neda. 😥

    And I just read that tanks are rolling into Tehran.

    (I have been glued to 44 and twitter all day but I HAVE to get this work done)
    I HIOPE the Iranians continue the struggle. Their conviction is quite a contrast to the self-satisfied, sluggish, spoiled young people in this country.

  177. The failure here by bambi was more than just moral cowardness. It was strategic failure and that is far more serious. In any long term battle you can take alot of tactical failures, but stratetic failures are the ones that do you in. Krauthammer put his finger on it, namely that if you want lasting peace in that part of the world, these absolutist regimes fueled by religious hatred who act as state sponsors of terrorism must fall. Their repression is what sews the seeds of terrorism. It therefore follows that Obamas failure to provide even moral support when it counted is fair warning to the aspirants to democracy that Obama cannot be trusted and if they do decide to rise up against tyranny then they are on their own.

  178. I was wondering if what I am seeing on twitter about the tanks rolling is true. OMG! How can they do that! Well, I hope they can figure out how to get around those tanks, but they will probably quit protesting and then repercussion of what they have done will come in full circle. In otherwards, it will be hell to pay for the protesters.

  179. From one twitter who was afraid of the Banji, when he saw an 80 y.o. woman throwing rocks and screaming death to Khomeni and the Benji. Amazing. 30 years of repression can be quiet a tinderbox.

  180. Well, I am signing of tonight, I wonder what will happen as the day wears on in Iran?
    Will BO go out for more ice cream tomorrow as the ppl of Iran get blown to bits by tanks?

  181. The problem we are going to have is that the economy , despite Obama, is making a slow but steady come back from where we were a few months before he was elected. As Bill Clinton showed us, “it’s the economy stupid”, that wind /loses elections. If the economy is even remotely better than where we are today, it could mean more more dems keeping their seats (e.g. Dodd) and less gains for republicans than traditionally the minority party gets at mid terms. Being completely honest, can any of you see any republican beating Obama in 2012 if things remain the same or improve? We support Palin as a woman, who like Hillary, was /is abused by the MSM. However, her views are extreme and not moderate. The republicands seem content to lose elections rather than embrace moderates within their party. You see how this has played out already with the Rush/Steele battle. I like Romney, but he is unelectable b/c of the “magivc underwear” tyhing. Jindal was awful in that reply speech, and who else do they have? I hope I am wrong, but it seems to me wee are stuck with this guy for 2 terms….

  182. Jbsonesfan: I’m not nearly as astute as many on this board but I personally don’t think that any of us can predict exactly what the political scene will be at the midterm elections or in 2012. There are so many things that are happening right now, both with the economy and in the world, that no one knows how it will all play out. We have all experienced in our lives that history can change in an instant–look at Iran. Nothing is for certain or a done deal.

    I have read numerous articles and have seen many reports that signs of economic recovery aren’t certain at all. The deficit has massively increased in the few months Obama has been president and he is proposing more spending. He has made the economic situation infinitely worse by every reportable measure out there. It’s too large to simply go away in a year or so. From what I understand, and I’m not expert, the economic mess is going to have an impact for literally years. For our sake I hope our economy does stabilize at some point, but from everything I’ve read, viewed and analyzed we are not going to be zooming along where we were before anytime soon.

    I agree that the Republicans need to get their act together. But just because they are disorganized now doesn’t mean they will be in the future. Again, who knows what the months ahead hold in store. The front page of Drudge right now has a link to a new Gallup poll showing Obama’s numbers dropping. The cause? His massive deficit and weak responses to the international crisis in Iraq.

    We still have a long way to go to 2012. Who knows what will be happening once we get there….

  183. To be honest, I do not see much economic recovery at this point. What I see is continuig unemployement, business failures, huge deficits, attack on the dollar, growing skeptism about his eonomic programs, etc. The credit crunch will hit next and an L shaped recovery will ensue. The likely scenario is either credit tightening or hyperinflation. Its a minefield.

  184. If the Japanese are involved with the alleged counterfeit bond scheme, you know the Asians are aligning themselves with the BRIC Pact who will be pushing harder in their counteroffensive of devaluing the dollar bringing the US to it’s knees.

    I don’t believe Bambi is out of the loop knowing full well the danger our economy is in if the BRIC Pact is successful. Obama is doing this deliberately and was part of his plan all along.

    A while ago, Obama made a statement that was so out of order; He said when the Chinese get tired of lending us money the responsibility of funding the government will fall on the people.

    That statement alone was so incongruent to what his job as president entails, it boggles the mind.

  185. Several years ago I remember that it was known that there was an element in Iran that wanted to break free of the govt. There was supposedly unrest and that we were waiting for that to take shape. I think it was during the Bush administration. Anyone remember that??
    Well, now that we have Obama, what has happened to what we were going to do when this came about? Does anyone know what we were going to do if the Iranians started to riot?

  186. Good Morning.

    My pc opens to ABC as my homepage (don’t know HOW to change it – I’ve tried going to internet options but I can’t get rid of ABC)

    Anyway =- the top storyi s about an 80 billion drug bill BO is peddling.

    The Iran story is buried half way down the page.

    What a crock.

  187. Anyone think there’s a chance the BO admin had a heads-up about the Iranian unrest and planned the Cairo speech with the belief that A) Moussavi would win or B) he would challenge Ahmadinijad?

    I know I’m giving him far more credit for analysis then he deserves but the thought did occur to me.

    BTW – the protests continue, unabated.

  188. Good Morning all

    The media has started their campagin for his health care plan, in addtion to his ads to support it.

  189. basil9

    What version of windows are you on? If you are on vista, on the lowest top tool bar is a picture of a home. Go to the place you want for the home page, and then click on the home arrow to the right, and select I think it is add or change home page.

    There should be instructions there to help you. If you are on an older version of windows, I think you right click and that option would come up. I have forgotten though.

  190. Jun 21, 2009

    ADL: Probe ties between US NGO, Hamas

    The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) urged the Justice Department Sunday to investigate whether a US-based campaign is raising funds for “the purpose of providing material support to Hamas,” and voiced concern about the fund raising activities of the campaign’s leader, George Galloway, a member of the British Parliament.

    The campaign, Viva Palestina US, is modeled after Mr. Galloway’s European initiative, which delivered a convoy of vehicles – as well as a substantial amount of cash – to representatives of Hamas in Gaza in March 2009. Mr. Galloway, who plans to lead the Viva Palestina US convoy in July, has visited the US on several occasions in recent months to promote and raise funds for the upcoming convoy.

    While the campaign’s organizers claim that it intends to comply with US law and will deliver the money raised to a reception committee of NGOs in Gaza, in a letter to US Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr., ADL said “it is not verifiable that this ‘committee’ will function independently of the Hamas leadership in Gaza, and Galloway – who plans to lead the American convoy – has already demonstrated his willingness to directly support Hamas.”

    “We believe that the Justice Department should investigate reports of fundraising by MP Galloway and Viva Palestina US for the purpose of providing material support to Hamas,” said Michael Salberg, ADL’s International Affairs Director.

    Both the United States and the European Union have designated Hamas as a terrorist organization.

    Mr. Galloway is currently on another speaking tour in the US, and plans to visit California, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, Texas and Washington, DC between now and the end of June.

    In May 2009, ADL wrote to Attorney General Holder to raise concerns about Mr. Galloway, Viva Palestina US and their activities.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184886489&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  191. Jun 21, 2009

    Washington reiterates support for Israel

    By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, JPOST CORRESPONDENT, WASHINGTON

    The Obama Administration insistently reiterated its support for Israel this weekend after a Jerusalem Post poll found that only 6 percent of Jewish Israelis now consider Barack Obama’s presidency to be pro-Israel. The poll, which has a margin of error of 4.5%, was conducted by Smith Research among a representative sample of 500 Israeli Jewish adults last week.

    Fifty percent of those sampled consider the policies of Obama’s administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli, and 36% said the policies were neutral. The remaining 8% did not express an opinion.

    The numbers were a stark contrast to the last poll published May 17, on the eve of the meeting between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Obama at the White House. In that poll, 31% labeled the Obama administration pro-Israel, 14% considered it pro-Palestinian and 40% said it was neutral. The other 15% declined to give an opinion.

    The White House declined to comment on the specifics of the poll. But National Security Council spokesman Mike Hammer told the Post that “we remain committed to peace and security for Israel.” Hammer recalled the line from Obama’s recent speech in Cairo in which he said, “America’s strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable,” one of several recent reiterations of strong US support for Israel.

    Ira Forman of the National Jewish Democratic Council also emphasized that Obama has repeatedly affirmed the US-Israel special relationship and that he “is a great friend to Israel.” Forman added that despite the tough going when it came to the president’s peace efforts, “The absence of a peace process is more harmful to Israel and the United States’ interests than trying to keep the process alive and moving forward even if you know it’s very difficult.” He also contended that polls of Israeli attitudes towards US leaders were “very fickle,” noting other recent surveys giving Obama greater support. “I have no doubt that Israelis will remember Barack Obama and his presidency as one that was tremendously favorable to Israel when all is said and done,” he said.”

    Matt Dorf, who did Jewish outreach for the Democratic National Committee during the presidential campaign, was more blunt when it came to the survey results. “I don’t trust the poll,” he said, calling the Post a newspaper that has “not been friendly toward Obama.”
    He added that “among those who know him best he enjoys tremendous support and we trust him when it comes to Israel and Israel’s security,” citing by way of comparison a poll commissioned by the progressive J Street lobby finding that 73% of American Jews have a favorable opinion of Obama.

    The Republican Jewish Coalition, however, interpreted the Post/Smith Research survey results differently. “It’s a very sad day when an American president can make the Israeli people believe that he is more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli,” said RJC spokeswoman Shari Hillman.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184882206&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  192. NMF,

    That doesn’t work. I still get ABC. Like i said, I’ve spent time on internet options in control panel trying to change it without success. Maybe I have to try harder? 😡

    (But thanks for the tip)

  193. Under tools at the top bar, right under the address line, the last item is internet options, when you click on it it shows an address area. Maybe you can change it there.

  194. Basil9, Are the demonstrations continuing today? I can’t get confirmation of that.
    How I hate Kristol guy! He has such a whiney voice and always looks so sarcastic. Ugh!

  195. NMF!!!!

    It worked!!!!!!!

    {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}

    confloyd,
    I haven’t been online much (except for this) but as I’m cleaning house and listening to Fox and CNN (they’re finally carrying coverage) it sounds like the demonstrations are as strong as yesterday.

  196. Fox is interviewing an eyewitness/journalist in Tehran and reporting a large militia/armed presence on the streets.

    He says there could be a harsher crackdown tonight and while demonstrations are expected the government is revving up opposition to them.

  197. A while ago, Obama made a statement that was so out of order; He said when the Chinese get tired of lending us money the responsibility of funding the government will fall on the people.
    ——————————————–
    Mrs. Smith: if you can find that statement it needs to go viral.

    Does he want to bring down the dollar? No. Why? Because it will be harder to fund all his big government programs. This assumes he his rational, and from what I am seeing now that is a debateable proposition. Nevertheless, as between believing he is following someones nefarious game plan or is just bouncing against the walls in a state of giddy delusion, I am inclined to believe the former.

    But that is not really the question. In other words, the question is not whether he wants to destroy the dollar, but whether he is prepared to do that which is necessary to defend it? The answer appears to be an unequivocal no.

    First of all, when the countries who are seeking to replace the dollar announced they would meet and he was refused admission, he meekly accepted. That is an undeniable fact. And it is not the response of someone who is determined to defend the dollar.

    Second, it is also a fact that he is introducing costly programs that will exacerbate the our debt and thus undermine what leverage we have to fight them.

    Third, and this is informed speculation, but there is reason to believe that his backers see the handwriting on the wall and are seeking to create a western trading block to offset the one we are talking about, and the dollar will retain its reserve currency status within that group.

    But if that is indeed the plan then it is both naiive and short sighted. Why? Because the high growth will continue to occur in the eastern block just as it has for the past twenty years, but it will no longer be the force that fuels are economy and subsidizes our debt.

    Their comparative advantage is based on a lower standard of living, an increasingly educated workforce and continuing productivity gains. In fact, their growth projections are being adjusted upward. And that is why the global recovery when it does come will start there, not here, and surely not under the self destructive approach by Bambi.

  198. basil9

    Right now I feel like a techno geek. However, don’t worry, unlike O, I realize I am not, and just got lucky helping you. Don’t get me wrong, for my age, I am pretty good. But I wish I had a young person around when things get rough. One of my children came recently to visit, and I had all kinds of task lined up for the computer. Up most was helping me set up my ITunes (yes for me the time has come to have an ipod). I really enjoyed it on our Eastern Trip, it played all my favs for hours. In addition, I am going to load my family pictures to it to show people.

    My how times have changed.

    (I was watching NCIS, one of my favs, when one of the undercovered cops asked for a photo of the family, and she whipped out her ipod and showed her brother and her boyfriend, it actually changed the case).

    So maybe I need to learn how to twitter.

  199. If this revolution or up rising is to succeed they have to get the blessing or control of the religious leader. I don’t know if that is possible, but that is the key.

  200. There is an analogy here that is interesting. It is between governments and businesses. Among governments, there are so called emerging nations which have low overhead i.e cost of living, and when the right factors are in place, such as an educated workforce, a market economy and access to capital, they can take off and grow rapidly, vs. western nations which have high overhead, mature economies and low growth.

    The former are like small cap companies, the latter like blue chips. The blue chip companies, even ones as large as GE have a hard time making in a changing economic environment, rely on government help, and must transfer their work to low cost venues, just a governments with high cost economies rely increasingly on illegal immigration to sustain them. And from what I have seen these blue chip companies are highly policitical and more bureaucratic than entrepenurial. Like government.

    It gets back to the insight I mentioned the other day which is not original: the laws of economics are more powerful than any goverment or company no matter how large. I apologize if that sounds like Milton Friedman but I am afraid it is true.

  201. So the USSJohnMcCain is nearing that NK vessel in the China sea, what are they going to do? NK is not an islamic nation so maybe they should be a little wary.
    I understand that Ahmadinejad has issued an threat for the US and the UK not to interfere in this situation, so what exactly can he do about it?

  202. If the Republican Party was not the moribund entity it appears to be now, there is a treasure trove of material available to bring Mr. Obama to his knees. And big media along with him. It is as they say an embarrasment of riches. But in the absense of strong leadership and focused attack, it just sits there and languishes. Every day, he provides more ammo for such an attack. I used to know people who could hang him by the balls over stuff like this, and would throw his phoney counterclaim of racism right back in their faces. And their attack would be very ad hominum and turn him into a joke.

    These attack dogs are either dead or retired. What we have now is butboys like Crist who worship Obama, and have neither the courage or the intellect to provide a sharp rebuke to his policies. He is a welfare state republican, and there is almost nothing worse. I believe in safety nets, but I do not subscribe to the perverse incentives of the welfare state which are unsustainable–a word that bambi is fond of using whenever he wants to introduce a new government program to remedy a faux problem.

  203. So the USSJohnMcCain is nearing that NK vessel in the China sea, what are they going to do?
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    Wait ten eternities for Obama to make a decision, or take matters into their own hands. Those are the choices.

  204. I understand that Ahmadinejad has issued an threat for the US and the UK not to interfere in this situation, so what exactly can he do about it
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    So it seems that Bambi, after a severe bout of performance anxiety, is now performing on Twitter that he supports the protestors and telling them in effect go out there and win one for the gipper. Well, aint life grand. So what is his fall back plan when he heeds their words and get slaughtered? To reiterate his positon that this is an internal problem. Is there a coherent strategy here or is he just bouncing off the walls.

  205. I heard that about NK. Guess BO is out eating waffles and ice cream.

    NMF – it’s so hard to keep up with technology. Even professionals get burned out quickly coz the learning curve never ends!
    Anyway, i am DELIGHTED not to see ABC on the hone page!

    Just heard that former iranian President Rafsanjani’s 46 year old daughter and 4 family members were arrested.

    wbboei, I heard Bo make that comment one day when i wasn’t quick enough to mute the sound.

  206. wbboei,
    Remember yesterday when I posted that the WH is taking credit for the Iranian uprising?
    NYT is repeating the talking point in an article today.
    Nauseating, isn’t it?
    “… some of President Obama’s backers countered that the mere election of Barack Obama in the United States had galvanized reformers in Iran to demand change.’
    NYT Reaching for some way to Credit BO for the iranian uprising.
    www dot nytimes dot com/2009/06/21/weekinreview/21cooper.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

  207. North Korea is now accusing obama of instigating the beginnings of a nuclear war
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    Jan: let us hope the leader of North Korea shows some respect. After all it is Fathers Day. But in a strange way I happen to agree with the North Korean thug in this limited respect. By projecting weakness to every corner of the world, Bambi undermines the balance of power caluculations which deter nuclear war, and bid nations not only to test him but to push partisan advantage beyond the limits of what is rational. If he sends Richardson in to mollify the tyrant, that may be all it takes to him to start launching missles. Better he should have Telebama propose that we all just get along.

  208. Has anyone watched the campaign video of Mousavi’s wife?? Its a very good, she is demanding equal rights for women. I think that is what most of this is about. She is very intelligent and her husband apparently agrees with women’s rights.

  209. wbboei,
    Remember yesterday when I posted that the WH is taking credit for the Iranian uprising?
    NYT is repeating the talking point in an article today.
    Nauseating, isn’t it?
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    Basil: what else can they say? The question is whether it will be believed. If it is believed then the question we must ask is whether we really want world revolution. What you are really seeing is an aging empire trying to survive on hot air. It lacks the resources to lead the world so it is trying to succeed through a magic act. Beyond that, Mr Obama represents a clear and present danger to every leader if he can go around them and make an emotional appeal to the masses to which they must respond. It is in their interest for him to fail.

  210. I hope this is bogus, but just on twitter, 15 y.o. boy handcuffed and decapitated in front of the crowd by the banji!!??

  211. Basil: his attempt to claim credit can be easily rebutted by Krauthammer article and other observations which are a matter of record. By now, most people I know realize that the New York Times is nothing more than an extension of the Obama campaign, and most people do not read them. If the article is reprinted in local newspaper in a few days, so will the Krauthammer article which is a powerful rebuttal, which belies his claim of credit.

  212. I hope this is bogus, but just on twitter, 15 y.o. boy handcuffed and decapitated in front of the crowd by the banji!!??
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    Will Obama claim credit for that? In criminal law, an actor is deemed to have intended the logical consequences of his actions. Ergo, if he wants to claim that his Cairo speech is what initiated this insurrection, then he assumed the risk that it would produce violent acts of repression, and he has a moral responsibility to stop the killing rather than just walk off the stage and say mission accomplished.

  213. Has anyone watched the campaign video of Mousavi’s wife?? Its a very good, she is demanding equal rights for women. I think that is what most of this is about. She is very intelligent and her husband apparently agrees with women’s rights.
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    If you want to undermine radical islam, that is the issue to get behind. This proves beyond cavil that she is Hillary and not Michelle.

  214. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. O wants to support the winner, but I don’t see how you can tell at this point who that is. I don’t see how they could send US troops, and not cause a major problem with the religious groups in that area.

  215. If you want to watch Mousavi’s wife campaign video, go to the daily dish/andrew sullivan. I tried to link it but could not.
    It’s near the bottom of the twitter roll, but it is there with Mousavi’s face at the beginning. I think its very interesting, as she states need for women to feel safe in their country and free go to the dr. without a man’s permission and such. Very interesting in what the Iranian women live with day to day.

  216. If you want to undermine radical islam, that is the issue to get behind. This proves beyond cavil that she is Hillary and not Michelle.
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    From what I can tell, our own womens rights organizations are truer to their professed values in their local chapters than in their washington dc office, which tends to be an amen corner for whoever is leader of the democratic party. If that were not the case, then outfits like NOW would be putting a bunson burner under bambis keister and telling him to press that issue throughout the Muslim world. There is no way he would ever do that personally but he might appoint someone to press the argument, and if he did nothing it would highlight another facet of his profound hypocracy.

  217. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. O wants to support the winner, but I don’t see how you can tell at this point who that is. I don’t see how they could send US troops, and not cause a major problem with the religious groups in that area.
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    NMF: the outcome here is not in doubt. It gets back to the answer Stalin gave when someone pointed out that the Pope had taken a position contrary to his own: how many divisions does the Pope have?

    The long term result however may be vastly different, if western goverments and private organizations are willing to take up the cudgel on the cause of womens rights. That is the wedge issue against radical Islam. If we merely pusue democracy, we end up with anomolous results such as Hamas wins elections and nothing improves.

  218. Now would be the time for a naval blocade of Iran. If telebambi was serioius about supporting the protestors. Do you think he is reassemblng a delta force to support the protestors militarily?

    Question: If you are elected president, will you sit down with our enemies in the first year without preconditions and commence a diaglogue?

    Answer: yes. (Which he later amended to include with preparations).

    Is there any coherent strategy here or is he just bouncing off the walls?

  219. Following the October Revolution, there was a plot to overthrow the Bolsheviks. It was spearheaded by a brilliant Russian Jew named Sidney Riley whose exploits were much admired in a book by then British Ambasador Bruce Lockhart. He was an adventurer and a British operative, at a time when the official positon of the government was gentlemen do not open other peoples mail.

    He devised a plan whereby the Latvian Guard who protected the Kremlin would arrest Lenin and company, British troops would land at Archangel and marry up with White Russian troops and move on Moscow. Appropos of the World War II saying that loose lips sink ships, a French journalist who found out about the plan, and wished to be important shot his mouth off, the Bosheviks were alerted, and the conspirator were rounded up by the head of CHEKA forerunner to the KGB, i.e. the Cheka does not judge, it strikes–Felix Derjensky (sp) and executed. Riley himself was thrown in prison and what happened after that history does not tell us. In short, the whole matter ended badly.

    Let us hope that history does not repeat itself. But again this presupposes a coherent strategy. To me at least, Bambi has the imprametur of that mouthy French journalist who was the architect of the Russian disaster. Let us hope I am wrong.

  220. NMF: the outcome here is not in doubt. It gets back to the answer Stalin gave when someone pointed out that the Pope had taken a position contrary to his own: how many divisions does the Pope have?
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    I assume of course that the army remains loyal to the Supreme Leader. SHV had a brilliant post the other day about the doctor who witnessed how the Supreme Leader wasted nearly a million soldiers in the Iran Iraq War, then perhaps–but only perhaps there is some second guessing on their part. It is similar in some respects to the situation which the Prussian contingent of the German Army faced in World War II when they realized the bohemian corporal was leading their nation on the path to destruction. But in the anals of history, such revolts are rare and here this scenario seems to me highly unlikely.

  221. I am far from a Iran expert, but I thought that the Army would do what ever the religious leader wanted.

  222. wbb-

    The NYT article is expired… if someone has a subscription for the archives (?)

    Obama Says U.S. Can’t Keep Borrowing From China
    Reuters ^ | May 14, 2009

    Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009

    RIO RANCHO, New Mexico (Reuters) – President Barack Obama raised the prospect on Thursday that China and other nations could stop buying U.S. debt and said the United States needed to tackle its deficit to avoid long-term economic damage.

    “The long-term deficit and debt that we have accumulated is unsustainable. We can’t keep on just borrowing from China or borrowing from other countries,” Obama told a town hall meeting event in New Mexico.

    “We have to pay interest on that debt and that means that we’re mortgaging our children’s future with more and more debt,” he said.

    China is the single largest holder of U.S. debt and owned $744 billion worth of U.S. government securities at the end of February, the latest month for which data is available, according to the U.S. Treasury.

    Obama said the debt situation would create greater economic problems if foreign countries like China lost their appetite for U.S. treasuries.

    “What’s also true is at some point they’re just going to get tired of buying our debt,” he said.

    “And when that happens, we will really have to raise interest rates to be able to borrow and that will raise interest rates for everybody.”

    This from a Reuters NYTimes article

  223. If the Rio Rancho article comes true, the US economy will show the reflection of this. How that can be good, someone will have to explain to me.

  224. I went to a dinner party last night and spoke with a lady who was about my age and looked like a middle aged hollywood actress I used to know. In fact, she was a magazine editor. Inevitably we got into a discussion about Mr. Wonderful, and she expressed great concern about him. She mentioned in passing that she was Muslim but was also Republican. I mentioned that I was a Hillary supporter and that put some distance between us, for partisan reasons. However, I did tell her about the real story behind the pirate incident, namely that Bambi could not make the decision and the military forced him to do so to save the life of the captain. She agreed empatically, mentioned some corroborating facts, and said she had seen a letter which confirmed that conclusion. More on that point, she would not disclose. What is significant to me about this is the fact that many many people must be keeping score of his serial incompetence, with the intention of using it against him at the appropriate time. Thus, if you merely rely on big media for this, as many people do, you will fail to see the opposition that is forming against him in many circles.

  225. Now would be the time for a naval blocade of Iran.
    *********
    Iran is holding the “hole card” with talk of military action and blockade…They can close the Straight of Hormuz.

  226. “The long-term deficit and debt that we have accumulated is unsustainable. We can’t keep on just borrowing from China or borrowing from other countries,” Obama told a town hall meeting event in New Mexico
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    The question which someone should have asked him at that point should have been:

    Then why are you hell bent on compounding that debt and thereby hastening that ugly day of reckoning? or-

    Thank you for stating the obvious. Now how exactly do you plan to deal with it? or-

    Will you swear to this audience that you will never sell public land and foreclosed properties this country to China, and relax immigration requirements in furtherance of same?

  227. Iran is holding the “hole card” with talk of military action and blockade…They can close the Straight of Hormuz.
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    That’s right. I forgot. Pretty big flaw in my argument.

  228. wbb-

    “First of all, when the countries who are seeking to replace the dollar announced they would meet and he was refused admission, he meekly accepted. That is an undeniable fact. And it is not the response of someone who is determined to defend the dollar.”

    Provided the perfect deniability factor enabling Obama to vote present.

    “Second, it is also a fact that he is introducing costly programs that will exacerbate the our debt and thus undermine what leverage we have to fight them.”

    True

    “Third, and this is informed speculation, but there is reason to believe that his backers see the handwriting on the wall and are seeking to create a western trading block to offset the one we are talking about, and the dollar will retain its reserve currency status within that group.”

    I guess it would be possible IF the members of the Global Union weren’t suffering from the same, if not worse, economic malaise as we are here. The British Pound has become almost as devalued as our own currency. I’m speculating, the wealthy have insured their monetery positions by exchanging most of their US currency for Gold.

    Actually, I think Obama’s real job is breaking the US economy and walking away when it has been acomplished. Walking away to a new position as the First President of the Global Union.

  229. Will you swear to this audience that you will never sell public land and foreclosed properties this country to China, and relax immigration requirements in furtherance of same?
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    I have not said this directly until now. But that I believe is his way out of the finacial dilemma. Trust me I am not being delusional. And if you want to know where that path leads to, you should read or re read the secret report posted on the internet, which was prepared by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 1997. That is the real trap that China will walk this benigted fool into, based on the economic leverage they now have. They need land–lebensraum, and with land comes control. If you read the April 8 article in the Wall Street Journal you will see that they have already hacked into our power grid system. Since Bambi does not care about the fate of this country, but only his status as a world figure, and the retention of power he is an easy mark for them. One of my closest friends is a Chinese doctor who fled here years ago. He understands them better than bambi does, these descendents of Sun Tzu/

  230. If Sun Tsu met Saul Alinsky in a dark alley somewhere on the other shore of the River Styx, Sun Tsu would filet him alive. You are talking world series vs sand lot base ball.

  231. I listed three questions that should have been asked to Bambi about his statement that we must live within our means if China will no longer fund our excesses. Stupid me.

    Question: sir, are you laying the foundation for reducing or eliminating the financial guarantees which federal government has made to retired people for the better part of a century now? Yes or no. (Repeat the question if he evades it, and repeat if often enough that everyone knows he is being evasive) And when he says yes, ask him point blank who then do you intend to cheat?

  232. Yes, agreed- Sun Tsu would definitely be the victor. Who will be our Sun Tsu?

    Alinsky is Obama’s alter ego.

    wiki:

    Lebensraum (German for “habitat” or literally “living space”) served as a major motivation for Nazi Germany’s territorial aggression. In his book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler detailed his belief that the German people needed Lebensraum – for a Großdeutschland, land, and raw materials – and that it should be taken in the East. It was the stated policy of the Nazis to kill, deport, Germanize or enslave the Polish, and later also Russian and other Slavic populations, and to repopulate the land with reinrassig (racially pure) Germanic peoples. The entire urban population was to be exterminated by starvation, thus creating an agricultural surplus to feed Germany and allowing their replacement by a German upper class.

  233. (Repeat the question if he evades it, and repeat if often enough that everyone knows he is being evasive) And when he says yes, ask him point blank who then do you intend to cheat?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The article you posted by Chris Hedges says exactly that… He will sell infrastructure, buildings, roads, national parks, Open Space land to the highest bidder (China)( and China will proceed with the Lebensraum.) Hedges said that before the end, the equity in our property will be reduced lower than by half….

  234. Mrs. Smith, in time it could lead to all that but the initial impulse would be simply room to live and a huge influx of capital investment for our beleaguered 23 trillion dollar real estate market, which would be welcomed by many who would see the value of their own residences rise or provide a willing buyer. The system today is frozen up.

  235. Before I skip out to a Birthday Party

    New movie out:”Nothing but the Truth” starring Kate Beckensale playing a journalist jailed for protecting a confidential source. Surprise ending.

  236. “The system today is frozen up”

    And you can’t imagine the manipulation going on behind the scenes. The stress of it all can be quite debilitating.

  237. Chris is perhaps the most brilliant and ethical investigative journalist, and his left wing principles are so legitimate and powerful that he cannot be bribed or bought off like the rest of his profession. He left a plush job at the New York Times because he puts principle above personal comfort and prosperity. But the strategic risk which a fastian pact like this entails, as illuminated in the RCMP article he has not yet made provision for. The rebuttal argument is that there was political resistance to the Chinese acquisiton of Unocal, and there would be here as well. The rebuttal to the rebuttal is that was then and this his now. Hummer has since been sold to China. IBM PCs have since been sold to China. And if the economic situation gets as dire as he posits–and remember I am still not sure he is right, but assuming he is, then the national identity of the buyer will not be a blocking issue.

  238. New movie out:”Nothing but the Truth” starring Kate Beckensale playing a journalist jailed for protecting a confidential source. Surprise ending.
    ————————————————-
    Let me guess: she takes off her mask and it is bambi with an NBC baseball cap on his forehead turned backwards like a gangsta. I mean the hat, not his forehead, although I must admit he is always doing an about face, isn’t he.

  239. wbboei Says:
    June 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    If Sun Tsu met Saul Alinsky in a dark alley somewhere on the other shore of the River Styx, Sun Tsu would filet him alive.

    =============

    What a lovely image!

  240. I am far from a Iran expert, but I thought that the Army would do what ever the religious leader wanted
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    If what Clemmons says is true, and there is a power struggle within the inner circle, in particular Mr. Rafsenjahni, then it is not inconcevable that different factions within the military would line up with different leaders, especially if the Supreme Leaders health is in jeopardy. But that seems like a long shot, and I am not an expert on Iran either.

  241. “She agreed empatically, mentioned some corroborating facts, and said she had seen a letter which confirmed that conclusion.”

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    I’m confused. Why didn’t she expose this at the time?

  242. Obama said the debt situation would create greater economic problems if foreign countries like China lost their appetite for U.S. treasuries.

    “What’s also true is at some point they’re just going to get tired of buying our debt

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    Then why is he bankrupting the nation with his garbage stimulus plan?

    And why is he allowing “American treasures” to leave the U.S. hands?

    And does anyone think, without being labeled a conspiracist, that his main purpose ala Soros and his Muslim terrorist buddies is to destroy the most powerful nation in the world. Is he helping BRIC to achieve their goals? Is he their secret weapon?

    Somebody explain please!

  243. Somebody explain please!
    ********
    With Obama, it’s all about him…..he doesn’t have the interest, intellectual capacity or vision to think beyond his self-interest. The possible agenda of people who manipulate him, however, is a different question.

  244. SHV,

    I flip back and forth when it comes to bambi’s intelectual capacity. I just don’t know anymore.

  245. Streets of Tehran left empty as protesters wait in vain for sign

    Robert Tait and Ewen MacAskill in Washington
    guardian.co.uk, Sunday 21 June 2009

    A deadly crackdown on opposition demonstrators appeared tonight to have punctured the most serious protest movement in Iran since the 1979 revolution, as an eerie quiet settled on Tehran and the regime turned its attention to more familiar enemies overseas. Protesters who have shaken the authorities by venting anger en masse at the “stolen” elections that returned Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to office spoke of a hiatus, even a despair, settling on the movement after yesterday’sSaturday’s clashes killed at least 10 and wounded scores more. State television blamed the casualties on clashes between police and “terrorist groups”.

    Tonight, sporadic gunfire was heard in northern parts of Tehran, yet there was no repeat of the mass protests that have brought hundreds of thousands to the streets of the capital over the last week.

    Some opposition figures were still hoping that their figurehead, the defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, would emerge tomorrow to lead another rally calling for the elections to be annulled. But Saturday’s crackdown, in which police wielded guns, truncheons, tear gas and water cannon, showed that the state intends to follow through on veiled threats of zero tolerance from the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    Mousavi issued an elliptical statement today in which he spoke of a “turning point” being “forged in the history of our nation. People are asking each other and also me, when among them, what should be done and in which direction we should go,” he said. But he stopped short of giving a clear answer.

    There has been another wave of arrests, with reports today of the detention of five female relatives of Hashemi Rafsanjani, a former president widely seen as the orchestrator of the opposition movement. Dozens of journalists have similarly been rounded up; yesterday it was reported that Maziar Bahari, a filmmaker and Newsweek correspondent, had been arrested.

    Meanwhile, the regime was turning its attention to more distant adversaries, with Ahmadinejad blaming the US, as well as Britain, for the crisis. “Definitely by hasty remarks you will not be placed in the circle of friendship with the Iranian nation,” he was quoted as saying in a meeting with clerics and scholars. “Therefore I advise you to correct your interfering stances.”

    The foreign minister, Manouchehr Mottatki, told foreign diplomats in Tehran today that Iran had faced “an in-flooding of British intelligence officials ahead of the election”. The British foreign secretary, David Miliband, hit back, saying: “I reject categorically the idea that the protesters in Iran are manipulated or motivated by foreign countries.”

    Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany called on Iran not only to allow peaceful protests but to conduct a recount of votes cast in the election. “Germany is on the side of the Iranian people, who want to exercise their rights of freedom of expression and free assembly,” she said. France’s foreign minister, Bernard Kouchner, called the crackdown a “brutal repression”.

    The Italian foreign minister, Franco Frattini, expressed similar sentiments but confirmed that Iran was still invited to discuss Afghanistan and Iraq at a conference in Trieste this week.

    Barack Obama did not expand today on earlier comments in which he called on the regime “to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people”.

    Those actions took on a new dimension on Saturday, as the security forces responded to a directive given by Khamenei to enforce official bans on all public protests. Demonstrators spoke of a surreal atmosphere on the streets, in which the euphoria of solidarity and resistance mingled with adrenalin, smoke and fear. Amateur video showed the demonstrators pelting police with stones and shouting: “Death to the dictator.”
    Scores of injured protesters who had sought medical treatment were arrested by security forces at hospitals in the capital, the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran claimed. The organisation said doctors had been ordered to report protest-related injuries to the authorities, and some seriously injured protesters had sought refuge at foreign embassies.

    Violence also spread to other cities, including Shiraz, where police were said to have lashed out at members of the public who were not involved in protests.

    Mohammad Khatami, a former president and another leader of the reformist camp, spoke out against the repression. “The provocative and insulting portrayal of our people who have been acting independently, and accusing their healthy civil protest to be an act of foreign influence, is an example of the wrong policies that further distance people from our government,” he said. “Elections were held in Iran and a massive number of our great people do not believe the results that were announced and are protesting against them. Public trust has been damaged and closing the door to civil protests means opening a dangerous path, and God knows where that will lead.”

    guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/21/tehran-iran-protest-crackdown

  246. Just been catching up on the postings and I find I have missed an important discussion as whether Bambi is trying undermine the nation and is cohoots with the Chinese, and muslims to destroy the US.
    I have to say I have always that was exactly the case, although I can’t figure how Hillary fits into this grand scheme of things as the globalist ruin our country. Surely she wouldn’t be a part of this?

    I want to wish all those fathers and grandfathers out there a happy fathers day!!!

  247. SHV,

    I flip back and forth when it comes to bambi’s intelectual capacity. I just don’t know anymore
    **********
    I have a hard time believing that an evil Marxist destroyer of the USA wound spend most of his time goofing off. Partying, playing basketball with his buddies and golfing are Obama’s main agenda. As Mr. Gibbs said, “President Obama is a restless soul” and spends his “work day” wondering around the WH (when he is there) sticking his head in offices and saying a few words. The same behavior that he exhibited when he was Editor of the Law Review. Has Obama ever answered a question with a coherent answer that didn’t involve a string of “buzz words” and talking points?

  248. In addition, to my previous post, Bill Clinton recently stated that “we should trust our SOS”. So how does this fit in also??

  249. conditio sine qua non of sociopathy
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    SHV: you are beautiful. Can we make that his new logo? The blue and red depiction of the rings around Saturn is getting a little old. Also, since he is angling for a position of global royalty, perhaps it could also be his family coat of arms. In that case we could replace the Matthews, Maddow and Olberman with three trained shrinks. Those medical experts could provide a clinical diagose his current symptoms qua actions and an accurate prognosis on what future mishaps and disasters his aberrant state of mind he will march us into in the future as a nation. Just think, it all begins with five little words: conditio sine qua non sociopathio.

  250. SHV, the behavior that you talked about is the behavior of someone who has nothing to do allday, not someone who is actively involved in the day to day running of something.
    I think Gibbs let the cat out of the bag, so just who in the hell is running the country??? I noticed a pic of Hillary standing outside the WH while South Korea President was speaking to Obama, WHY?? Maybe she could hear what was being said!!
    THe skateboarding and idolness of the WH, is that the norm there??

  251. With Obama, it’s all about him…..he doesn’t have the interest, intellectual capacity or vision to think beyond his self-interest. The possible agenda of people who manipulate him, however, is a different question.
    ————————–
    spot on.

  252. Personally I think Hillary is running the country, but shh, shh, the republican must not know this! LOL!!!

  253. I have to say I have always that was exactly the case, although I can’t figure how Hillary fits into this grand scheme of things as the globalist ruin our country. Surely she wouldn’t be a part of this?
    —————————————————-
    Does a cat bark?

  254. Oh wbboei, don’t make me decifer your statement! LOL!! too many Bud light limes today this great fathers day. I am cooking for my 86 y.o. old daddy.

    In otherwards she is not a part of this, well I already knew this, but so if he’s is in it up to his knees, how and why does she fit in.

    What your telling me without telling me is she is being used??

  255. The other day, someone asked me why Obama would introduce costly government programs at a time when the country was drowning in debt.

    I reminded them of the story of the scorpion and the frog. The frog asked the scorpion for a ride across the pond. The frog was sceptical. The scorpion assured the frog that he had nothing to worry about. He pointed out that if he stung the frog while they were crossing the pond then he would drown along with the frog. The frog was impressed with the argument, conceded that it was rational and let the scorpion get on his back. When they got half way across the pond the scorpion raised its tail and stung the frog. The frog began to sink, told the scorpion they would both drown and asked the scorpion why did you do this? The scorpion replied because it is in my nature, i.e. conditio sine qua non sociopathio.

  256. The other day, someone asked me why Obama would introduce costly government programs at a time when the country was drowning in debt.

    I reminded them of the story of the scorpion and the frog. The scorpion asked the frog for a ride across the pond. The frog was sceptical. The scorpion assured the frog that he had nothing to worry about. He pointed out that if he stung the frog while they were crossing the pond then he would drown along with the frog. The frog was impressed with the argument, conceded that it was rational and let the scorpion get on his back. When they got half way across the pond the scorpion raised its tail and stung the frog. The frog began to sink, told the scorpion they would both drown and asked the scorpion why did you do this? The scorpion replied because it is in my nature, i.e. conditio sine qua non sociopathio.

  257. I watched a 5pm telecast of the events here in east texas on juneteenth celebration. They had many individuals on worshiping our new President and saying what he is doing is what is fair for America. THey are totally brain washed!
    You just would not believe the total commitment to this fraud of a President by the AfroAmerican population. Its really scary.

  258. I have finally trained my computer to go instantly to Hillaryis44, I don’t know How I have done it, but when I log on it simply goes straight to this website and even allows me to make a comment. If there are any computer wizards out there, tell me how I did this!

  259. Celebrated my Mom’s 80th today with many of her Obama condo commando friends including several gay couples. I worked the room and asked one of the male partners who was a huge Bambi supporter what he thought of Obama’s homophobic administration so far, and he responded ‘I am disappointed”…lol. I then asked some of the elderly Jews (actually that was the entire crowd sans me , my wife and kids) about how they felt about Obama’s anti-Israel policies….Several responded that “he is doing the right thing”, to which I responded “pressuring Israel but seeking love from Iran’s Supreme leader”…others were more honest and admitted they were concerned but not to the point of thinking OPbama is anti-Israel. As I toasted my Mom, and marked the events of her life, from being a baby in the deprssion, to working for womans rights, and ended by saying you even made it long enough to see the first Muslim president elected”,,,The crowd was visibly asnnoyed and my wife and kids covered their fsaces…Mom said “that’s my son”…the best dad in the world….

  260. jbstone,

    condo commando friends! LOL!

    Bet you had a couple of drinks in you by the time you made the ‘first muslim prez’ comment.

  261. jbstonesfan. I don’t know why I thought you were female but never the less it shows how Obama has got a hold of everyones mind.
    It sounds just like my dad during election time, he was not sure about Obama, but he has got to be better than the republicans. I don’t know how we will ever convince these people in time to save the country.

  262. http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/48721992.html

    Democrats no longer Dimocrats:

    I was on political easy street as a Democrat.

    President Obama, the party head, is a political rock star in America and a near-god in Amsterdam and Cairo.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is portrayed as grown too big to fail, and he’s convinced everyone who’s anyone in my home city of Las Vegas to join him on the Obama freight train to socialism. Next stop: Rationed health care, union card check and $10-a-gallon gasoline. All aboard!

    Democrats own Washington, D.C., as well as the Nevada Legislature.

    Meanwhile, Nevada’s Republican “Luv Guv,” Jim Gibbons, couldn’t be on a more prolonged hard-luck streak. [snip]

    And, lest we forget, Nevada’s most popular Republican, Sen. John Ensign, shook the party faithful by admitting to a nine-month roll in the hay with the wife of his good friend.

    Nope, I don’t think I could have picked a worse time to go Republican. However, because KXNT-AM radio’s Alan Stock revealed my party switch last week, I feel the need to explain.

    First, I’m not trying to time anything. Enough was enough. Could stand no more. So, when it came time to renew my driver’s license on June 9, I also gave the Democratic Party the pink slip.

    I pushed the DMV clerk the paperwork. She shoved it back and said I didn’t have to fill out that form if my address remained the same.

    “No, I want to change party affiliation.”

    “Oh,”

    Republicans offer our only hope in slowing the Obama “change” juggernaut before the America of unbridled optimism and opportunity goes the way of the buffalo. I don’t want my great-grandchildren growing up in cradle-to-grave government care, where only the privileged few may afford a car, or own a home, or get non-rationed health care.

    The only institution positioned to stop the progression of the Obama welfare state is the Republican Party, coupled with independent-minded Americans like me.

    Second, the popular myth that the Democratic Party is the party of tolerance and big-tent ideas is spectacularly false.

    A fiscal conservative such as myself is treated by Obamaniacs like a ringing cell phone in church. “Shhhh!” they say. The only debate among Democrats is how fast and how deeply to run up the national debt. Any Democrat who questions deficit spending or a limit to federal power is simply not invited to the party.

    And finally, I have reservations about abortion. Now, I know that there are many Democrats who call themselves “pro life.”

    But being a “pro life” Democrat doesn’t mean you’re “anti-abortion.” It means that you are “abortion tolerant.” The rationalization goes like this: “Abortion is the law of the land. Abortion is wrong. But abortion must be supported and expanded.”

    It’s hardly an intellectually honest position, but all “pro life” Democratic office holders must toe that line. The moral dilemma is further compounded by the Democratic Party ethic that taxpayer money must be used to fund abortion, here and abroad.

    For those reasons and many more, I switched. Democrats are probably happy as hell to see me go. And for all I know, Republicans may be equally unhappy to see me coming.

    But at least as a Republican, I’m respectfully part of the discussion.

    Sherman Frederick (sfrederick@reviewjournal.com) is publisher of the Las Vegas Review-Journal and president of Stephens Media.

  263. SHV Says:
    I have a hard time believing that an evil Marxist destroyer of the USA wound spend most of his time goofing off. Partying, playing basketball with his buddies and golfing are Obama’s main agenda.

    ============

    Seems to be having that effect…. Maybe he’s lucking out.

  264. jbstonesfan,

    I wonder what it will take for your beloved mother and her friends to finally turn on obama.

  265. JanH, here is a clue to answering your question about when Americans will reject Obama completely:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 32% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2. That’s the President’s lowest rating to date and the first time the Presidential Approval Index has fallen below zero for Obama (see trends).

    Sixty percent (60%) of Democrats Strongly Approve of the President’s performance but only 8% of Republicans share that view. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Republicans Strongly Disapprove.

    Check out our weekly review of key polls to see “What They Told Us.”

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter.

    Overall, 53% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.

  266. JanH Says:
    I wonder what it will take for your beloved mother and her friends to finally turn on obama.

    =================

    My beloved brother is incapable of it, I fear.

  267. Overall, 53% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.

    ==============

    There it goes again. “Somewhat approve” contrasted with “disapprove” rather than with “somewhat disapprove.”

  268. After five long years, Bill Clinton will speak at Mott Hall School in Harlem

    BY Jan Ransom and Corky Siemaszko
    DAILY NEWS WRITERS
    Saturday, June 20th 2009, 10:13 AM

    Graduating students at IS 223 on Convent Ave. will have a big surprise Monday when Bill Clinton will speak at their graduation ceremony.

    Congratulations, Mott Hall School eighth-graders – Bill Clinton will be speaking at your graduation Monday. And you can thank the current and previous members of the Yearbook Committee for getting him there – their letters convinced him to come.

    “We were trying for five years, as soon as we heard he moved (his office) into Harlem,” said Cynthia Arndt, principal of the Harlem magnet school on Convent Ave. “It was just like a dream come true” when Clinton accepted last week, Arndt said.

    Amanda Cabrera, 13, one of the letter-writers, said “it was a big surprise” but she had a feeling Clinton might accept this time. “We thought that since we did it early in October he might come,” she said. “I feel great … and accomplished.”

    As in previous letters, the students let Clinton know they were big fans of the 42nd President. “We think you are a wonderful role model for students and will give a speech that will inspire us to make wise choices as we enter young adulthood,” they wrote.

    This time, however, the shmoozing worked. The letter-writers were summoned without explanation yesterday to Assistant Principal Melanie Thai’s office. “I really thought it was going to be something bad,” said Amanda.

    Then Thai said, “Who do you think is going to speak at your graduation?”

    They immediately blurted out Clinton and started cheering.

    “I had to tell them to calm down,” said Thai. “I had to close the doors, they were so excited.”

    They were also ordered to keep quiet about Clinton coming to the ceremony.

    Clinton will address the graduates at the Aaron Davis Hall in Harlem, which was swept by Secret Service agents yesterday. The ex-President will be presented with a plaque and a book filled with art work from the students – and will be joined there by Rep. Charles Rangel.

    “I want to be a lawyer and to see someone that big. … I can say he was actually here,” said Joycette Santos, 13. “We’ll remember it for the rest of our lives.”

    nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/06/20/2009-06-20_after_five_long_years_bill_clinton_says_yes_will_speak_at_mott_hall_school.html

  269. Since Bambi wants us to believe he is a Lincoln Man surely he will recall Lincoln’s famous statement: “you can fool some of the people some of the time”. In this case, we learn that Obama is not the friend of the people but the alibi of tyrants, i.e. Rezko reivisited.
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    Mousavi Accuses Obama of ‘Misleading the World’

    Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:38 PM

    Author and foreign policy expert Michael Ledeen has published a letter reportedly from the office of Mir Hossein Mousavi, in which the Iranian opposition leader criticizes President Barack Obama for saying Mousavi and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadenijad are “two of a kind.”

    The letter, addressed to Obama, takes the president to task for the remark, calling it “a grave and deep insult, not just to Mr. Mousavi but especially against the judgment of the Iranian people, against our moral conviction and intelligence, especially those of the young generation that comprises a population of 31 million.

    “It is a specially grave insult for those who are now fighting for democracy and freedom, and an unwarranted gift and even praise for [Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali] Khamenei, whose security forces are now killing peaceful Iranians in the streets of every major city in the country.

    “Your statement misled the people of the world.”

    Read Michael Ledeen’s blog post on the Mousavi letter – – Click Here
    Now

    (click–sound effects not included)

    http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/20/sunday-morning-in-iran-a-letter-from-mousavis-office/

    I’ve received what purports to be a statement from Mousavi’s Office in Tehran. Like everyone else covering the revolution, I get a lot of material that can’t be authenticated, and one must always take such material with a healthy dose of skepticism.

    That said, the person who sent this to me is undoubtedly in touch with the Mousavi people on the ground, that much is certain. His information has been proven reliable throughout this period. So while the following open letter carefully puts distance between the author(s) and Mousavi himself, I am quite sure that at a minimum it accurately reflects the state of mind of the Mousavi people.

    So here you go:

    From the Office of Mr. Mir Hossein Mousavi

    To the President of the USA, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama:

    Dear Mr. President,

    In the name of the Iranian people, we want you to know that when you recently made the statement “Achmadinejad or Mousavi? Two of a kind,” we consider this as a grave and deep insult, not just to Mr. Mousavi but especially against the judgment of the Iranian people, against our moral conviction and intelligence, especially those of the young generation that comprises a population of 31 million.

    It is a specially grave insult for those who are now fighting for democracy and freedom, and an unwarranted gift and even praise for Mr. Khamenei, whose security forces are now killing peaceful Iranians in the streets of every major city in the country.

    Your statement misled the people of the world. It was no doubt inspired by your hope for dialogue with this regime, but you cannot possibly believe in promises from a regime that lies to its own people and then kills them when they demand the promises be kept.

    By such statements, your administration and you discourage the Iranian people, who believe and trust in the values of democracy and freedom. We are pleased to see that you have condemned the regime’s murderous violence, and we look forward to stronger support for the rightful struggle of the Iranian people against the actions of a regime that is your enemy as well as ours.

    UPDATE: From Mousavi’s speech on Sunday:

    The great participation in this election was, in the first degree, indebted to the efforts for creating hope and trust among the people, to obtain a befitting response to the existing administrative crises and the widespread social dissatisfaction, whose accumulation can target the bedrock of the Revolution and the Regime. If this good faith and trust coming from the people is not answered by protecting their votes, or the people can not react in a civil and peaceful way to defend their rights, there will be dangerous pathways ahead, responsibility for which lies with those who can’t stand peaceful behaviors.

    If the high volume of cheating and vote manipulation, that has put a fire to the foundations of people’s trust, is itself introduced as the proof and evidence of the lack of fraud, the republicanism of the regime will be slaughtered and the idea of incompatibility of Islam and republicanism would be practically proven.

    UPDATE II: Mousavi has called for a general strike on Tuesday. Meanwhile, the regime is now rounding up Rafsanjani family members. As Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi tells us:

    Tabnak Website from Iran reports: Five members of the Rafsanjani family arrested. It is said that his daughter Faezeh who is very outspoken and has been very active in politics for more than two decades has also been arrested. Reportedy Faezeh, her daughter,Hossein Marashi (cousin of Mrs. Rafsanjani nee Effat Marashi), Marashi’s daughter and Marashi’s sister-in-law have been taken into custody as wellUpdate III: From Judith Klinghoffer, the unions are joining the revolution.

    Update IV: From the Guardian’s excellent blog:

    More evidence of tensions among the ayatollahs. Hossein Ali Montazeri, an architect of the 1979 Islamic revolution who fell out with the present leadership, said: “Resisting people’s demand is religiously prohibited.” Montazeri, who has been under house arrest for some years, called for three days of national mourning for those killed, in a statement on his website.

    This is to be expected, and it’s a tribute to the courage of Montazeri. There’s a reason he’s been under house arrest, after all.

    UPDATE V: To show you what’s happening in Iran, today the security forces invaded the central election headquarters in Tehran and arrested everybody there. No doubt because they don’t want any witnesses to the “election circus.” Normally the staff is about 80, but today, Sunday, only 26 had made it to the office. All of which reminds me of a great exchange on Twitter. Somebody had announced an upcoming general strike, and another person replied saying “all you have 2 do is announce a demonstration and Basij will shut down all of Tehran 4 us.”

  270. Admin, that sure looks like a short honeymoon. The great hopes and expectations dashed as soon as he had to make decisions and perform. He keeps trying to vote present, but FOX keeps picking on him.

  271. Confloyd: I am told that the elbow injury is more serious than the media has reported. She has had surgery and is still in a fair amount of pain. Thus, she is in no position to guide Obama at this point. There is no leadership coming from Obama. He is trying to get by voting president. He had his shills on CNN saying he is handling the situation brilliantly. But as they juxtapose the statement of those whores against the images of Iranians declaring this is their revolution, and by inference not anything Obama delivered, then the words of the whores ring hollow. Obamas position which was initially called this an internal matter, only to be called on it by many including Krauhammer reaching a creshendo at which time he swings the other way and treats this like a neigborhood oranizing project. Meanwhile he draws yet another perverse moral equivalence which caused him to be condemned by the opposition camp if the letter is credited. It gives you a sense of a man who is trying to vote present, and thus adbicating his role as a world leader. Britain is trying to force the issue, but hasnt the stature. Obama plays games of Twitter while an Iranian woman whose name means Hope has been killed by Iranian thugs and is becoming an international martyr. Any objective observer would say Obama is far behind the power curve of events and fucking up by the numbers. These poor people need our help and think where we would be today if France had not come to our aid in the American Revolution. What this fucking jackass Obama should be doing instead of running his mouth is rallying western europe to put pressure, going to the UN. What hangs in the balance here is not merely the quest for freedom, but a way to break the group of nations who are trying to break the dollar–Iran was a key member. Also the opportunity to permanently break Obama. Yet fucking Obama refuses to get involved in any meaningful way. This is as pivotal of a moment as the time Bush could have paid Saddam 1 billion dollars and he would have left voluntariy with no need for the Iraq war.

    I do not remember the exact would but the gist of it is that there is a tide in the affairs of men which when taken at the right moment produce a successful voyage and taken at the wrong time all the voyage is doomed to misery and despair. For the record Obama is not playing it perfectly, he is hiding from the hard decision which could save the world. But all he does is dither.

  272. Sorry I am in a hurry to get to a meeting. To permanently break al Quaeda not Obama. Also, to vote present not president. I have got to run. I dont have time to look up the Shakespeare quote either. Sorry again.

  273. # wbboei Says:
    June 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    New movie out:”Nothing but the Truth” starring Kate Beckensale playing a journalist jailed for protecting a confidential source. Surprise ending.
    ————————————————-
    Let me guess: she takes off her mask and it is bambi with an NBC baseball cap on his forehead turned backwards like a gangsta. I mean the hat, not his forehead, although I must admit he is always doing an about face, isn’t he.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Not really- I believe this story is loosely based on Valerie Plame except that it was written from the pov of the government frowning on journalists protecting their sources. A little convoluted in the Plame context but so is Henry Paulson playing the role of Jane Fonda in the movie “Rollover”..

  274. # JanH Says:
    June 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Obama said the debt situation would create greater economic problems if foreign countries like China lost their appetite for U.S. treasuries.

    “What’s also true is at some point they’re just going to get tired of buying our debt

    ——————————

    Then why is he bankrupting the nation with his garbage stimulus plan?

    And why is he allowing “American treasures” to leave the U.S. hands?

    And does anyone think, without being labeled a conspiracist, that his main purpose ala Soros and his Muslim terrorist buddies is to destroy the most powerful nation in the world. Is he helping BRIC to achieve their goals? Is he their secret weapon?

    Somebody explain please!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, Jan- We think alike. There cannot be any other reason why Obama would be deliberately leading the country into the abyss unless it was to bankrupt the country to the point of no return. Since he’s taken office, there is nothing he’s done that could be considered a serious remedy or positive steps of improvement for the welfare of the country.

    I don’t see the Stimulus as anything more for the time being than pacifiying the masses mainly to forestall outright discontent evolving into riots in the streets.

  275. Overall, 53% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.
    =================================
    It appears that somewhat approve= approve + slightly approve. In order to do an apples to apples comparison, we need to know how many approve compared to how many disapprove. With the slightly approve group, how many of them were in the approve category a month ago. I think the attrition factor is larger than what they are reporting and they try to mask it with the apples to oranges comparison.

  276. Yes, Jan- We think alike. There cannot be any other reason why Obama would be deliberately leading the country into the abyss unless it was to bankrupt the country to the point of no return. Since he’s taken office, there is nothing he’s done that could be considered a serious remedy or positive steps of improvement for the welfare of the country
    ———————————————-
    The problem is the two of you are trying to find a rational explanation, whereas SHV may have provided the real answer which is that he is a sociiopath, and like the scorpion he does what he does not because it is good, or logical but because it is in his nature. I gave up long ago saying he will not do that because it is self defeating. After all big media did not call him on it, and it never seemed to stick. Forget about logic and consider what a sociopath would do and you will understand Barack Hussein Obama to a fare thee well.

  277. Yes, wwb.. a sociopath doesn’t have a conscience and will lie convincingly. We cannot rule out that Obama may have other plans beyond the WH, plans we cannot conceive of at this point. fwiw- I don’t believe Bambi mispoke when he introduced Biden as the next president of the US…Which leads me to believe he may accept a position as the President of the Global Union.

    It’s just theory right now because nothing else will compute, not forgetting, he is not master of his own ship but a deck hand doing the dirty for the Global Captains!

  278. Lets look at this whole thing clinically. A man walks into your office with no birth certificate, no transcripts and no track record to show he has produced anything in life. He shows you not one but two books he has written about himself, He says he is hereto save the world. He has no proof he can do it, only his word. You ask him to tell you a little about the particulars of his life, he refuses and hires a lawyer to prevent you from getting them. He says he intends to be president and he will use the rutheless campaign tactics of a former communist to corrupt the electoral system and intimidate voters. His wife tells you she does not like the country. You learn he has shady associates, spent twenty years with his children in a racist church and sold out his constituents on many occasions. He uses his minions to play the race card against his adversaries and claim that he knows nothing about it. He tells you what he lacks in experience he makes up for in judgment. The only quality he seems to possess is the ability to read speeches with a teleprompter. And he is half black.

    Big Media promotes him for its own reasons. They elevate him beyond all reason. They print false biased storied against his challengers slandering their character. The ignoranti respond like Pavlovs dog, and flock to him shamelessly. What do you do?

    If you care anything about your country, how can you say anything but no, and not just no but Hell No.

  279. Well, I’ve just watched ABC’s 4:30 – 5:00AM ‘news’. Guess they are devoting much of Wednesday to Obama healthcare … which reminds me of the time just prior to the 2000 GE, Bush vs. Gore. Brian Lamb turned C-SPAN’s cameras over to provide live broadcasts of numerous right-wing radio shows. I was furious enough to snap off C-SPAN for a long time. Does anyone else here recall that moment (when the lovefest was all about GWB)?

  280. Re Obama, wouldn’t bribing past and future donors/sponsors cover a lot of his actions? Bondholders, said Taipan(?) a while ago.

  281. I haven’t been able to get much info from twitter this morning,has anyone else?

    wbboei, I figured Hillary’s elbow is much worse than they are reporting because most of the time those kinds of injuries needs either pins or a complete rod from the shoulder to elbow. Of coarse, we don’t know this because the news media refuses to report it.

  282. Good Morning All. Well the national news certain jumped on the Denny’s robbery in my neighborhood that killed one. Can you imagine being 19 and cooking at Denny’s and getting killed. There were 60 people in the place including children, so it could have been worse, but the family of that young person has to be just out of their minds right now. It takes guts to pull off a armed robber of a restaurant full of 60 people on Saturday morning. The local news say they were from another country, but I don’t think it makes any different where they were from. It still happened in a place normal people live, which is always shocking.

    So why do we care about Palin’s donor’s and no one cares who donated to O. I know about the public financing etc. However, I think the same rules should apply to non public financed. I could not believe when they said they did not have enough people and time to investigate O, and because he did not take public funds they did not really care. When does someone stop the Harrsement of Palin.

  283. The BBC journalist works for an organization that is devoted to the truth and risked his life to bring it to us, in graphic detail. Thus, I am concerned for his fate, and hope he is returned safely to his family and loved ones. By contrast, the Newsweek journalist is a rank and file member of a media organization that is demonstrabley corrupt, and is essentially in the business of distorting truth, censoring critical information and workshipping Obama. Therefore, for me at least it is hard to feel the same kind of sympathy for his fate, even though I know nothing else about him. Que sera.

    eek journalist works for a corrupt organizaion that distorts the truth, censors critical information, and essentially lies to its audience. Thus, I for one, am indifferent to their fate. Que sera/

    ———————————————————————
    IRAN ADMITS ELECTION FLAWS (from Foreign Affairs Magazine)

    Top story: A spokesman for Iran’s authoritative Guardian Council has admitted that voter turnout in the country’s July 12 presidential election exceed 100 percent in as many as 50 cities. The admission is likely to further inflame controversy over the election which has plunged Tehran into its worst unrest since the 1979 revolution.

    Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei’s warning to protesters last Friday proved ineffective as the opposition continued to clash with security forces throughout the weekend. At least 10 people were thought to have been killed in Saturday’s protests. 457 people were reported arrested. At least 24 journalists, including correspondents from Newsweek and the BBC have also been detained.

    The fatal shooting of a teenage girl named Neda, which was captured on video and went viral, has become a rallying point for the protests. Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards vowed to crack down today if protests continue. Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi has reportedly called for more demonstrations today.

  284. IRAN ADMITS ELECTION FLAWS (from Foreign Affairs Magazine)

    Top story: A spokesman for Iran’s authoritative Guardian Council has admitted that voter turnout in the country’s July 12 presidential election exceed 100 percent in as many as 50 cities. The admission is likely to further inflame controversy over the election which has plunged Tehran into its worst unrest since the 1979 revolution.
    =================================
    I seem to recall that in the Indiana primary, there were more votes that voters in the african american town of Gary Indiana, and its mayor is widely acknowleged to be a thug. Yet there was no similar admission of “election fraud” by the Democratic National Committee when the issue was presented to them. In that respect, the dims are WORSE than the Iranian thugs when it comes to killing democracy.

  285. wbboei, EXACTLY, how could the fraud say anything about election fraud when he is king of election fraud.

  286. VIVA SARKOZY!
    he lashes out about women wearing the burqua in france.

    “In our country, we cannot accept that women be prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity,” Sarkozy said to extended applause in a speech at the Chateau of Versailles southwest of Paris.

    “The burqa is not a religious sign, it’s a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement—I want to say it solemnly,” he said. “It will not be welcome on the territory of the French Republic.”

  287. No health care? Expect a requirement to get it

    By LIZ SIDOTI

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Don’t have health insurance? Don’t want to pay for it? Too bad.

    It’s looking like President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress are going to require you to pick up the bill. In Washington-speak, it’s called an individual mandate — or a requirement that people who don’t already have health insurance to purchase it, much like most states require drivers to have automobile insurance.

    Obama long has been wary of the idea, arguing that people cannot be required to buy coverage if they can’t afford it. His plan during the presidential primary didn’t require all adults to have coverage, only children. He and then-rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, who backed a universal requirement, sparred repeatedly over the issue.

    Now in the White House, Obama has set in motion steps toward his broad goal of making health care more affordable, improving quality of care and expanding coverage. Says Obama: “We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children.” He largely has left it to the House and Senate to work it out. But in recent weeks, Congress signaled that legislation overhauling health care was all but certain to require that people have insurance. Of course, details about how to implement such a mandate must be worked out — and there are many — but the overall concept increasingly seems on track to be included in any sweeping health care overhaul that makes its way to Obama’s desk.

    The president’s support for the requirement is recent — and conditional. In a letter in early June, he told key Senate Democrats writing legislation that he was willing to consider their ideas for “shared responsibility,” requiring people to have insurance with employers sharing in the cost. “But,” he added, “I believe if we are going to make people responsible for owning health insurance, we must make health care affordable.” He went a smidgen further last week. “I am confident in our ability to give people the ability to get insurance,” he told doctors. Thus, he said: “I am open to a system where every American bears responsibility for owning health insurance, so long as we provide a hardship waiver for those who still can’t afford it.” Obama also indicated that if he were giving a little, insurance companies eager for new customers must as well, and called on them to stop denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions. Said Obama: “The days of cherry-picking who to cover and who to deny — those days are over.”

    Even before the president took office in January, the insurance industry, which killed former President Bill Clinton’s health care overhaul, indicated it was willing to accept that trade-off, making a mandate all the more likely.

    Democrats have opposed such a mandate in previous years, fearing it would disadvantage the poor. In fact, it was Republicans, including 1996 presidential nominee and former Sen. Bob Dole, who pushed the idea in the 1990s.

    These days, it’s hard to find many opposed to a requirement.

    Insurers like it: A mandate means a ready pool of new customers. Businesses back it: They say employers alone shouldn’t shoulder the responsibility to pay for coverage. Hospitals cheer such a provision: They’re tired of absorbing the costs of the uninsured seeking medical attention. Doctors support it: They want to stop providing services for free. And advocates for the poor are conditionally favorable: They want adequate subsidies and so-called hardship waivers.

    Even so, at least some conservative Republicans likely will argue that Obama is stepping on individual rights by mandating coverage, expanding government’s hand in the health care industry and creating a pathway to socialized medicine. Just last week, congressional conservatives offered their own plan. It would not mandate people to carry insurance. But even Republicans say a requirement is likely. “I believe there is a bipartisan consensus to have individual mandates,” says Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee. The reason is fairness, he says: “Everybody has some health insurance costs, and if you aren’t insured, there’s no free lunch. Somebody else is paying for it.” It’s support like this that’s meant Obama has been able to shift positions with seemingly little political peril.
    “Because there’s a consensus among both the stakeholders and the legislators that this is the direction to go, the president essentially doesn’t have a reason not to support it,” said Judy Feder, a senior health care official under Clinton who now is at the liberal Center for American Progress.

    Still, Congress must figure out how to enforce such a mandate, eligibility for a so-called hardship waiver, tax credits so people can afford health care and subsidies for the poor to help them buy coverage. House and Senate committees are in the midst of haggling over such issues, and independent analysts expect a final bill to emerge that includes both waivers and sliding-scale subsidies to meet Obama’s conditions
    “There’s no doubt that to be acceptable, it has to be regarded as fair and that you’re not requiring people to buy insurance that’s not affordable to them,” said John Holahan, the Urban Institute’s health policy center director.

    Any plan is likely to be modeled after one in Massachusetts, which required that virtually everyone have health insurance or face tax penalties. People who were deemed able to afford health insurance but who refused to buy it during 2007 faced losing a personal tax exemption and the prospect of monthly fines. The law exempted anyone who made less than the federal poverty level and gave them free care. And, those making up to three times the poverty level could get subsidize plans. Businesses with 11 or more full-time employees who refused to offer insurance also faced fines.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hGNoJqVBrCNNa8y75cZS59Go96FgD98VMGMO0

  288. Hi basil, I saw the article about Sarkozy and burka in TOI this morning. I am almost 80% with him. Since the Muslim religion has not moved on with the times in giving women the choice to how they want to display their religiosity, it is yet another symbol of subjugation. Instead of Sarkozy, I would have preferred this development to come from Muslim women themselves and in fact, I hope Iran leads the way in this regard. I will write a post for NQ on this when I find the time.

  289. Mandatory auto insurance has not really worked in our state. People still find ways around it. Some take the insurance out and then cancel it.

  290. Recovery’s Missing Ingredient: New Jobs
    Experts Warn of A Long Dry Spell

    By Michael A. Fletcher
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, June 22, 2009

    Despite signs that the recession gripping the nation’s economy may be easing, the unemployment rate is projected to continue rising for another year before topping out in double digits, a prospect that threatens to slow growth, increase poverty and further complicate the Obama administration’s message of optimism about the economic outlook.

    The likelihood of severe unemployment extending into the 2010 midterm elections and beyond poses a significant political hurdle to President Obama and congressional Democrats, who are already under fire for what critics label profligate spending. Continuing high unemployment rates would undercut the fundamental argument behind much of that spending: the promise that it will create new jobs and improve the prospects of working Americans, which Obama has called the ultimate measure of a healthy economy. “Our hope would be to actually create some jobs this year,” Obama said in an interview with The Washington Post in the days before taking office. Obama has defended his economic approach — which includes the $787 billion economic stimulus plan and record investments in health care, alternative energy, education and job training — as necessary to stabilize the shaky economy and point the way to job growth.

    So far, the White House has counseled patience even as the political debate surrounding its economic policies grows more urgent. Officials point out that job growth will not come until robust economic expansion takes hold, which they expect will happen as stimulus funding works its way through the economy. Still, the flagging job market is likely to stir calls for further stimulus efforts as polls show voters growing increasingly wary of federal spending in the wake of a costly series of financial- and auto-industry bailouts and amid current efforts to expand health-care coverage to the uninsured, which is estimated to cost at least $1 trillion over the next decade.

    With many forecasters projecting unemployment to remain above 10 percent next year and not return to pre-recession levels of roughly 5 percent for years after that, Obama is likely to be confronted with defending the effectiveness of his economic policies as the nation endures its worst employment situation in a generation.
    Analysts say the high levels of joblessness would be accompanied by increases in child poverty, strained government budgets, and black and Latino unemployment rates approaching 20 percent. “I find it unfathomable that people are not horrified about what is going to happen,” said Lawrence Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute. “I regard all this talk about how the recession is maybe going to end, all the talk about deficits and inflation, to be the equivalent of telling Americans, ‘You are just going to have to tough it out.’ But we’re looking at persistent unemployment that is going to be extraordinarily damaging to many communities. There is a ton of pain in the pipeline.”

    Christina Romer, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, said that while the president is “very concerned” about the unemployment forecasts, the White House has assumed “a posture of watchful waiting,” adding: “There will be big increases in stimulus spending in the fall and early next year. We have to wait to see what happens with that. If you get to the end of this year or early next year and employment is still limping back, then we have to do some serious thinking about whether there might be special problems in the labor market that require targeted interventions.”

    Before passage of the stimulus bill, the Obama administration had predicted that unemployment would peak at 8 percent before beginning to abate this fall. But unemployment has already reached 9.4 percent, the highest level in a quarter-century, and the situation is not projected to start improving until long after the White House had predicted.

    Many economists agree that the job market would be in much worse shape had the stimulus package not been enacted. And some say more stimulus measures may be needed, even as the federal government grapples with a huge budget deficit. “There is a good economic argument to be made that the government has not done enough stimulus,” said Niko Karvounis, a policy analyst at the New America Foundation who recently wrote a report warning that the economic recovery is likely to be tepid and accompanied by unusually high unemployment.

    But with polls showing increasing public opposition to government spending and with no significant constituency mobilized to push for more government investment in jobs, the political prospects for any further stimulus legislation seem slim. Meanwhile, the continued rise in unemployment is creating an opening for Republican critics, who have criticized the level of spending Obama has pursued to try to fix the economy.
    “They even predicted that if we passed it quickly, unemployment wouldn’t go higher than 8 percent. Well, here we are just a few months later and the unemployment rate is approaching 10 percent,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). “The administration admits that their earlier predictions were a guess — and that they guessed wrong.”

    Obama tersely acknowledged in an interview with Bloomberg Television last week that unemployment is likely to peak above 10 percent. That prediction is in line with a growing number of respected economic forecasts, including those of private economists and the Congressional Budget Office, which projects that the unemployment rate will continue to rise into the second half of next year. “Unemployment won’t peak until this time next year, and then it will remain very high through next year,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Economy.com. “It won’t get back to full employment until 2013 or 2014. This really speaks to the severity of the job losses that have been absorbed by the economy. They were massive.”

    Since the recession took hold in December 2007, the U.S. economy has lost 5.7 million jobs, a rapid decline that caught administration and other economists off guard. In recent months, the velocity of job losses has slowed substantially, which, combined with a rising stock market and increases in consumer spending, has offered hope that a recovery is beginning to take hold. But employers still cut 345,000 jobs last month, while the nation’s growing working-age population requires the job market to expand by 125,000 to 150,000 a month just to keep the unemployment rate stable.

    The dynamics of the modern economy further dim the employment picture. Job growth was weak for years after the past two recessions, in 1991 and 2001. Employers have grown increasingly slow to rehire workers, and steady advances in technology have allowed businesses to do more with fewer workers. While the recession has touched workers across the spectrum, “many of the job losses are in manufacturing and construction, affecting less-educated workers and immigrants,” Zandi said. “It is going to be hard for them to find their way back into the workforce quickly.”

    Meanwhile, the current recession has been characterized by the implosion of the housing market and the near collapse of the financial sector and automobile industry. Despite huge federal interventions, many of the jobs in those industries are gone for good. High unemployment also does not bode well for consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the nation’s economic activity, putting further pressure on the job market. “We have not seen the highest unemployment rate, and this is going to go on for a long time,” Mishel said. “The political conversation seems to be that we have already dealt with the recession. But we need to have a conversation about how we are going to get to the other side, where employment is growing again.”

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/21/AR2009062101859.html

  291. pm317

    The last brave women we saw in the US were the suffergetts, who starved themselves, and were force fed. Today’s women’s groups could never concieve of making such a sacrifice for their rights.

  292. pm317, nmf,

    And wasn’t it the French who banned head coerings in public schools a couple of years ago?

    I am impressed with Sarkozy. His D-Day speech was superb.

  293. nmf,

    well, i wouldn’t go quite that far but it does seem like women today have bought into the new male-initiated role model the same way their mothers and grandmothers did, only now, instead of the ideal of being barefoot and pregnant they’re supposed to be educated, have full-time jobs, be sexy with big boobs and blonde hair.

    Still suppressed and not even realizing it.

  294. basil9

    Women think they have to behave like men, play along, and be attractive, when if they haven’t noticed they can be too attractive to promote. I think we have discussed this before. Yes, I think it was the French who banned head coverings in public schools.

  295. A friend of mine said something very telling the other day. They are a relatively young person still in the workforce, working in manufacturing. They said that they HAVE to donate so much time at this point, they are working for less than the Janitor, and he works his 8 hours 5 days a week and goes home.

    I wonder how much longer we can require that of people in the US workforce, without them waking up and rebelling against it. Of course now they need a job and will do anything to keep it. But if the future rewards are not there for making these sacrifice, you have to wonder how many will continue to do it.

  296. NMF,

    And is the younger generation complaining that the older generation is working years longer than average retirement just to make ends meet, and the jobs aren’t there for them?

    That is what is happening in Canada.

  297. JanH, I know that is true here in two ways.

    First there are truly many that have to work, because they need too.

    But there is another segment of society that either does not fill fulfilled or worthy if they do not work, or never seem to have enough money. Many are men and in professions. Look at some of our noted politicians that don’t want to or cannot seem to retire.

  298. NMF:

    “The last brave women we saw in the US were the suffergetts.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And the only woman we can point to in the 21st century with suffragette values is Hillary Clinton. It sickens me where women run blogs have turned Womens Rights into a cottage industry never get off their a*sess except to beg for donations from unsuspecting posters and delegate mass e-mailing as a sign of their pseudo commitment to be heard.

  299. Mrs Smith

    The really brave people, and women have to be able to willing to stand in front of a Tank. I don’t know too many that would do that.

    You are right, blogging, and emailing are easy. It is when you have to stand in front of a Tank that you get the really purple heart for your cause.

  300. I think the women and men who are the bravest are those unsung heroes who go about saving lives, doing their jobs, and making this world a better place to live in…without ever being given the accolades they so richly deserve and at the same time not expecting or even wanting to be acknowledged.

    The obamas and kennedys of the world are the antithesis of this.

  301. Many economists agree that the job market would be in much worse shape had the stimulus package not been enacted–washpo.
    ————————————————
    1. The writer is from WashPo–who supports this boondoggle

    2. The writer fails to tell us who these economists are, how many of them, and what they are really saying. He mentions only one.

    3. The writer fails to note that of the $875 only $125 had been dolled out thus far so the positive effect he alleges is at best debateable.

    4. The writer fails to tell us what jobs have been saved or created

    5. The writer fails to note that this stimulus plan will limit the capacity of credit markets to fund private businesses who the ones that acutally create and save jobs.

    6. The writer fails to ask whether the goverment jobs this will create add value to our economy or are make work. If the latter then they are featherbedding which is not the path to prosperity.

    7. The writer is a fraud trying to slip an unsubtantiated assumption past us unnoticed because he is in the tank for bambi.

  302. JanH

    I agree with that. You know my old pet peeve is all those award shows for atheletes, and media stars who already make millions, and not much for the people like EMTs, Firemen, Policemen, teachers etc that don’t make that much, but actually educate people and save Lives.

  303. Recovery’s Missing Ingredient: New Jobs
    Experts Warn of A Long Dry Spell
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    Then how can anyone who is honest call it a recovery? A jobless recovery is a contradiction in terms. In essence, a lie.

  304. # NewMexicoFan Says:
    June 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Mrs Smith

    The really brave people, and women have to be able to willing to stand in front of a Tank. I don’t know too many that would do that.

    You are right, blogging, and emailing are easy. It is when you have to stand in front of a Tank that you get the really purple heart for your cause.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hillary stands in front of Obama MediaTanks ready to roll over her every single day and yet she continues. Comitting Har-Kari or the Japanese word for it, Sepiku is not a viable alternative setting the bar so high, the movement self-destructs.

    The lesson is if you’re going to advocate for something do it in the spirt of your mind and heart not in the spirit of opportunism.

  305. NewMexicoFan Says:
    June 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Thanks-
    I have the movie ‘Pearl Harbor’ playing in the background as I read and type. The character, Rafe McCawley like Hillary, exemplifies the passion when combined with the heart and mind can accomplish when you and the cause are as synonymous as a hand in glove.

    # confloyd Says:
    June 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    In addition, to my previous post, Bill Clinton recently stated that “we should trust our SOS”. So how does this fit in also??

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hi confloyd- My interpretation of BC’s words are: We know we can’t Trust Obama.. He’s saying right out loud, “Trust Hillary”..
    His unsaid words are… because she is not Obama. She is her own person and will do what she believes is right for US.

  306. Injured Clinton to miss OSCE, NATO meetings: Greece

    Mon Jun 22, 2009

    ATHENS (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has canceled a trip to Greece for an Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe foreign ministers’ meeting this weekend because of injury, Greece said on Monday.

    Clinton had also been due to meet Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Saturday during a NATO-Russia ministerial meeting, the first since the war in Georgia last year.

    Greece, which currently presides over Europe’s top security and rights organization, said Clinton would miss the informal June 27-28 OSCE meeting on the island of Corfu.

    “Today at noon, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton communicated with Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyanni to inform her that due to a recent injury she will not be able to attend,” the Greek foreign ministry said in a statement.

    On Friday, Clinton had surgery on her elbow which she broke after tripping and falling in the State Department basement.

    She has several foreign trips planned in coming weeks, including to Trieste, Italy, for a meeting of Group of Eight foreign ministers. She is also due to attend a conference on Afghanistan to which Iran has been invited.

    The Greek Foreign Ministry said Under Secretary William Burns will lead the American delegation in Corfu.

    A U.S. State Department spokesman had no comment.

    reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE55L3PC20090622

  307. It appears rather than Obama’s exclamation Holbrooke sprayed WD-40 in Hillary’s path in the State garage causing her fall. It was her Guardian Angel giving her a nudge… with the thought: “you’ll figure out why, later.”

    I have the sneaking suspicion Obama was going to throw her into the frying pan with the Iran debacle forcing her to make statements she didn’t believe in, undermining
    her credibility in future negotiations with Iran.

  308. Mrs. Smith,

    I’m a firm believer in timing and things happening for a reason. I’m just glad she is going to make a full recovery.

  309. Has anyone seen pics or clips of HRC since this accident? COuld this be a fabricated story? (I know – I’m paranoid)

    OT;
    A former Iranian student protestor’s opinion of BO.

    ‘Courageous Iranian student activist Ahmad Betebi was sentenced to death by the evil regime in Iran after the student protests of 1999. He was severely tortured for years in the notorious Evin Prison in Iran. Last year Ahmad Batebi arrived safely in the United States.’

    One of his statements on BO’s response to the Iranian uprising;
    “The regime has dwindled the internet speed down to a minimum right now. They’ve disconnected all the phones. All the SMS and text messaging has been disconnected. They’ve thrown out Western and foreign journalists. They’ve closed down all Iranian newspapers. They’ve put filters on all of their opposition websites. They’ve arrested dozen of activists, human rights and civil activists. They are arresting and beating dozens of people on the streets every day. And, people need to know that if they do not stand by the Iranian people shoulder to shoulder right now, that they themselves will come face to face with this very regime. And if this regime is allowed to have a nuclear weapon it will do the exact same thing with the entire world. This regime does not represent the people of Iran. And, morally the people of the world need to support the people of Iran and not what the regime wants.”

    Gatewaypundit dot blogspot dot com/2009/06/iranian-hero-leading-activist-ahmad.html

  310. basil,

    There were two citations about Hillary missing out on Greece, one from Reuters and another from a Greek publication.

  311. Jan,

    I’ve read the accounts, too.

    I’m just saying – where are the pics?????

    When Sotomayer sprained her ankle her pic was all over the news.

  312. Basil: If Hillary wanted pictures of her right now she would make them available. She is probably on painkiller drugs, with her arm in a cast positioned above her heart with swelling under the cast. It will be that way for some time, and when the cast comes off there will be therapy. This is not the same thing as showing someone with a broken ankle. The best thing is to wish her godspeed and a rapid recovery. The big media sickos cannot get to her, and she can reflect on things and work her way back into the job as fast as her condition improves and heal. In the meantime, she has good staff people at State to keep her informed on pertinent developments and I am sure she is in touch with Holbrooke and others. In the meantime, she cannot be blamed for Bambis missteps on Iran and elsewhere. In crisis situations, the world does not look to the secretrary of state for leadership. They look to the president, and in this case he is proving to be Carteresque. Worse however, he is on the wrong side of history.

  313. sorry, Basil- work was interfering with my posting a timely response.

    However, wbb spoke my mind more eloquently than I ever could answering your question. Thanks, wbb!

  314. He is having another press conference tomorrow!!!This guy has the play book down…when in trouble, go to MSM and campaign mode.

  315. # jbstonesfan Says:
    June 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    He is having another press conference tomorrow!!!This guy has the play book down…when in trouble, go to MSM and campaign mode.

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    Yep, regurgitate the facts, water it down until it’s resemblance to the truth are phantoms to reality….

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