Supreme Court To Block – Chrysler Sale Stopped

At the very last minute, Democratic favorite Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has extended the stay order on the sale of Chrysler to Fiat.

The United States Supreme Court agreed Monday afternoon to delay the sale of most of Chrysler’s assets to Fiat pending further consideration of an appeal by three Indiana state funds, in a move that injects a new element of uncertainty over the carmaker’s bankruptcy case.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, as the Justice responsible for emergency appeals from the Second Circuit, acted to extend the delay order which was due to expire at 4:00 p.m. today. Ginsburg’s decision was that the sale of Chrysler was “stayed pending further order.” According to the New York Times “The action indicates that the delay may only be temporary.”

Court observers believe the delay may be temporary but even a temporary delay is a slap at the government and its rush-rush to sale [the next steps will be circulation of the case to the other Justices and then the Supreme Court will either hear the case or let the sale proceed].

The Indiana funds have sought greater compensation for their portion of Chrysler’s $6.9 billion in secured debt. They have also argued that the Obama administration illegally used federal bailout money earmarked for financial institutions to help Chrysler.

The negative economic consequences of permitting an unlawful sale to proceed may well over time dramatically outweigh Chrysler’s short-term harm,” the funds said in their brief.

On Monday, federal officials asked the court to allow the sale without additional delay.

The government, in papers filed by the Office of the Solicitor General, said that stays are only granted under extraordinary circumstances.

Apparently, by the very measure of the Solicitor General, this is an extraordinary circumstance. And we certainly agree, as should all, that an unlawful sale could have negative economic consequences which far outweigh any potential short-term harm to Chrysler. The Supreme Court, at the very least, should review the decisions of the lower courts which thus far have been unanimous in support of the Chrysler sale.

As our commentator Rgb44hrc has persisted in pointing out, the Chrysler sale will gut “lemon laws” in many states. And “lemons” are what Chrysler sells (see Kaus’ tough article on the lack of reliability of Chrysler cars which he based on Consumer Reports’ analysis of Chrysler).

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The right-wing Supreme Court, if it blocks the Chrysler sale, might preserve consumer friendly “lemon laws” while slapping down Obama’s economic madness.

But there was another denial today in which the Supreme Court agreed with Barack Obama.

In the very beginning of his presidential term, Bill Clinton was forced by some very clever homophobic Senate Democrats (like Armed Services Chair Sam Nunn – who supported Barack Obama in 2008) to deal with “gays in the military”. Bill Clinton was a friend to the Gay community when it was not a political plus and had declared his intention to allow Gay-Americans to serve in the military without fear of investigation and persecution.

The homophobes won the battle and a compromise called “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was authored by Gay supporters such as Barney Frank and signed by President Clinton in order to at least make the situation for Gays in the military a little better.

Since the early 1990s, attitudes towards Gay-Americans have improved significantly. It is now “cool” to be pro-Gay. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were “cool” to Gays before it was politically profitable. Hillary Clinton in her first run for public office marched in Gay Pride parades.

Barack Obama has never marched in a Gay Pride march. Barack Obama did gay-bash in 2008.

Today the Supreme Court agreed with Obama and rejected a challenge to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.

In court papers, the administration said the appeals court ruled correctly in this case when it found that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is “rationally related to the government’s legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion.”

Obama gay-bashed during the campaign yet Gay “leaders” supported Obama. Obama promised during the campaign to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” but now:

Meanwhile, the White House has said it won’t stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military.

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In another “meanwhile” from New York, Democrats who thought they would rule forever after finally taking over the State Senate, now are are actors in a “Punch and Judy” show which might be related to more broken promises on Gay-rights but certainly having to do with broken promises:

Republicans seized control of the New York State Senate on Monday, in a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for the Democratic Party, which controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens, joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

It was a noisy and acrimonious scene on the floor of the Senate as Senator Thomas W. Libous, a Republican from Binghamton and the party’s deputy leader, shouted for a roll-call vote, while Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session. [snip]

After the results of the vote were read aloud, the in-house television station that carries Senate proceedings live in the Capitol went dark. All that appeared on the screen was a still photo of the Senate chamber and the words “Please stand by.”

“Please Stand By” is a rational policy for those who oppose Obama but sometimes get frustrated at Big Media and PINO Big Blogs as they close eyes and ranks behind the Obama Chicago Circus of Corruption.

One person backing the revolt to put Republicans back in charge was Tom Golisano, the Rochester businessman and founder of Responsible New York, a political action committee that gave thousands of dollars to Senate Democrats last year to help them take control of the Senate, but who has become increasingly critical of the party. Mr. Golisano recently announced that he was moving his legal residence to Florida out of anger about the budget deal crafted in April by Democratic leaders in Albany, which included an increase in taxes on high earners.

Mr. Golisano played a role in negotiating original deal under which Mr. Espada and Mr. Monserrate — along with Mr. Díaz and Senator Carl Kruger of Brooklyn — gave their support to Mr. Smith. Steve Pigeon, his aide de camp, has been a frequent presence in Albany in recent weeks, and said Tuesday that Mr. Golisano felt betrayed by Mr. Smith because the Democratic leader had not delivered the overhaul of Senate rules he had promised upon taking power.

He feels very strongly that he backed Malcolm Smith, and Smith didn’t keep his word, and didn’t make the changes he said he would,” Mr. Pigeon. “What you will see now is power-sharing, real reform.”

The apparent change of power sent shock waves in political circles across the state. At City Hall, in Lower Manhattan, stunned members of the New York City Council walked into the press room to watch the news unfold on local television. “I’m floored,” said Vincent M. Ignizio, a Republican city councilman and former state assemblyman from Staten Island.

To balance its budget for the next year, the City Council needs Albany to approve two proposed sales tax increases. “This will turn the budget process on its head,” Mr. Ignizio said.

Dimocrats who sell Obama as the thousand year Reich should look to New York, the Supreme Court, and Europe to see how their audacious dreams will go up in smoke.

In Europe the voters have had enough of Obama style financial scams:

The Social Democrats got an unexpectedly dismal 20.8 percent — the party’s worst showing since World War II in any nationwide election.

Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union and a regional sister party won 37.8 percent, down from 44.5 percent five years ago. But the outcome was enough to boost Merkel’s hopes of ending the tense left-right “grand coalition” that has led the European Union’s most populous nation since 2005, and replacing it with a center-right government.

We are the force that is acting level-headedly and correctly in this financial and economic crisis,” said Volker Kauder, the leader of Merkel’s party in the German parliament.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s governing conservatives trounced the Socialists, while an ecology-minded party vaulted to a surprisingly strong third place, according to official results.

The Socialists, who dominated the last vote in 2004, suffered a stinging defeat, barely clinging to the No. 2 spot.

Tonight is a very difficult evening for Socialists in many nations in Europe,” said Martin Schulz, the leader of the Socialists in the European Parliament.

It is not the Supreme Court, nor rebel legislators, nor foreign governments which threaten Obama’s thousand year Reich. It is reality and the damage Obama is perpetrating that will finish off the Obama Chicago Circus.

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198 thoughts on “Supreme Court To Block – Chrysler Sale Stopped

  1. We suspected the Supreme Court might want to look the Chrysler deal over. In an earlier exchange with Rgb44hrc we wrote:

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/06/04/barack-obama-the-queen-of-denial/#comment-252164

    Rgb44hrc, the article on Chrysler is interesting. The sale has to go through by June 15 or Fiat can abandon the deal. The Appeals Court of the Second Circuit heard the case today and a ruling is expected this weekend. The Second Circuit could delay issuing a ruling however. There is also the matter of an appeal to the Supreme Court. An appeal to the high court could prove to be the undoing of the deal. A full panel of the Appeals Court could also agree to hear the case.

    This unsecured creditor issue has implications on which the Supreme Court might want to be heard. Woolner is correct that the deal will likely be approved and go through, but the Supreme Court might decide to weigh in.

  2. ADMIN!!!!!!

    I just posted that info in the previous thread.

    Hey, we are in SYNC! 😉

    Gotta go cover a local town hall meeting but d@mn, you are friggin GOOD!

  3. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/business/09chrysler.html?hp

    The order is in effect a holding action that gives Justice Ginsburg or the full court more time to consider whether to delay the deal while parties objecting to it file appeals. The most likely explanation for the temporary stay is that the justices needed more time to consider the filings, which started arriving over the weekend.

    A temporary stay from a single justice provides no clues about the court’s views on the merits of the case.

    Chrysler, Fiat and the government are prepared to close the deal as soon as Monday night if the court lets the deal go forward, according to people briefed on the matter.

    The Chrysler bankruptcy has been widely seen as a test case for that of General Motors, a far bigger and much more complex company that is pursuing a somewhat similar restructuring plan. In both matters, lawyers for the carmakers and the government have said that speed was of the essence to ensure the companies’ survival and preserve thousands of jobs.

    Under the terms of the deal, Fiat can walk away as soon as June 15, a move that Chrysler executives warned would mean near-certain liquidation. Executives testified in court that despite spending more than a year scouring the globe for someone to buy the company, none save Fiat made an offer. And a lawyer for Chrysler argued in a recent court filing that the carmaker was losing $100 million a day while in bankruptcy. [snip]

    For much of its court case, decisions had fallen Chrysler’s way. The carmaker won quick approval of its sale from two lower courts, and many legal experts said they did not expect the Supreme Court to further delay the deal.

    But lawyers for the objectors, including Indiana funds representing teachers and police officers and several groups with product liability claims, filed their appeal to Justice Ginsburg late Saturday night, after the Second Circuit reaffirmed a lower court’s approval of the sale. The appeals court had delayed the closing of the deal until 4 p.m. Monday or until the Supreme Court declined to issue its own delay.

    The Indiana funds have sought greater compensation for their portion of Chrysler’s $6.9 billion in secured debt. They have also argued that the Obama administration illegally used federal bailout money earmarked for financial institutions to help Chrysler.The Indiana funds bought their holdings in July 2008 for 43 cents on the dollar.

    Lawyers for the funds have questioned whether Chrysler could have received a better deal than the Fiat transaction or through a liquidation. They have also objected on constitutional grounds, saying that the Obama administration was not allowed to give bailout money meant for financial institutions to Chrysler.

  4. Maybe the conservative sweep in the European elections is a reaction to US spendthrift policies, but then again maybe it is not. The turnout was very low everywhere, and conservatives tend to benefit from that, even in the US. Remember that the turnout November 4 was very high, which was good for the Demicrats. When turnout is high in Europe, the same thing happens – the Socialists score high. People in Europe are just not interested in the European parliament because it doesn’t do anything. In national elections, though, the turnout is much higher and the left does much better.

  5. Basil9, the New York story is facinating.

    Democrats won the state senate by promising a lot of changes. To gay fundraisers in particular the promise was made to legalize gay marriage if Democrats got money to win the state senate. Once they won the Democrats said they wanted to wait because it could hurt them in the elections this and next year. Then David Patterson, in trouble electionwise, decided to force the issue and get gay money and gay votes to help him (in fairness Patterson has been a long time gay rights supporter) get elected.

    Earlier, several (3) antigay Democrats (practically all Latinos) had blocked the Democrats taking over the state senate unless they were promised bigger jobs and a block of gay rights legislation. Eventually Golisano (usually aligned with an anti-semitic Leonora Fulani Independence Party) brokered a takeover by the Democrats if they carried out certain reforms.

    Things are now absolutely confused and in World War II military parlance FUBAR.

    The Daily News has the exchange of artillery fire in this truly wonderful story for political junkies (we highlighted the treachery against Gay New Yorkers):

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/06/amigo-unrest-sparks-senate-war.html

    The Senate Republicans just sent out an urgent media advisory calling all reporters to the Senate chamber “ASAP!” because “an historic change in leadership is taking place at this moment.”

    You can view the shenanigans it here.

    (Or not, since the video steam is now out and on standby, not sure why that is, but it’s now playing the canned “welcome” message from Malcolm Smith – I don’t know what to call him anymore).

    So much for the revolution being televised.

    From the press release:

    “An historic change in leadership is taking place at this moment and a new bipartisan, coalition is being established that is bringing real reform to the Senate RIGHT NOW.”

    Several Senate sources say two Democrats – Hiram Monserrate and Pedro Espada Jr. – are poised to announce that they have decided to cross the aisle and caucus with the Republicans out of anger at Senate Majority Leader Malcolm Smith.

    UPDATE: I strongly urge you to tune in ASAP. Sen. Tom Libous, a Republican from Bringhamton, just removed Albany Democrat Sen. Neil Breslin from the chair presiding over the Senate and replaced him with Sen. George Winner, an Utica-area Elmira Republican.

    The vote was 32-30, which means two Democrats are voting with the Republicans.

    UPDATE2: The floor fight was over a GOP motion to make Pedro Espada Jr. temporary president of the Senate and Dean Skelos majority leader. – the very deal that Smith originally offered Espada that was rejected by the rest of his Democratic members.

    UPDATE3: Apparently, Tom Golisano was on the scene. (Funny, I thought he had moved to Florida). Remember, he played a role in putting together the original leadership deal – the one that fell apart.

    An observer in the Senate chamber tells me Skelos was sitting in Smith’s chair with a BIG smile on his face and Smith was nowhere to be seen. The chamber has now emptied out and Republicans are talking about electing themselves to committee chairmanships.

    I managed to get in touch with Sen. Ruben Diaz Sr., who said the following:

    “That’s the rumor, but they haven’t spoken to be about it,” he said. “They’re still amigos.”

    Another rumor du jour is that Diaz, who is furious that the gay marriage bill he opposes appears to be gaining some traction in the Senate, would be angry enough with Smith if the measure comes up for a vote on the floor to join the Senate GOP.

    I asked Diaz about that, and he said:

    “Today? No. Tomorrow? Who knows? Tomorrow is another day. It’s always another day. You ask me do I plan to do that. I say, no. In the future, who knows what the future brings.”

    “The only thing I can tell you, and you can interpret this any which way you want: When I give my word, I keep my word. In order for me to break my word, you have to break yours first.”

    Here’s how I interpret that:

    It’s a (typically) cryptic way of Diaz Sr. confirming the worst fears of marriage advocates – that there was indeed a deal between himself and Smith that the gay marriage bill would not come to the floor in exchange for Diaz Sr.’s support of Smith for majority leader.

    And now, in Diaz Sr.’s mind, if Smith brings the bill to the floor, all bets are off.

  6. I least one SC Justice has a concept of the “rule” of law. The Obots are going to have to trash another woman to explain how Bambi’s bestest plan eva was shot down.

  7. SHV Says:

    June 8th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    I least one SC Justice has a concept of the “rule” of law. The Obots are going to have to trash another woman to explain how Bambi’s bestest plan eva was shot down.
    ********************************

    Oh they will and the pressure on her will be ENORMOUS

    But here’s to another GREAT American Woman with I hope, Ovaries of Steel!!!!

  8. But here’s to another GREAT American Woman with I hope, Ovaries of Steel!!!!
    ************
    She is amazing…75 years old, undergoes a massive operation for pancreatic cancer and is back to work in 17 days. Ten years ago, she had surgery for colon cancer and then chemo; didn’t miss a day of work.

  9. SHV Says:

    June 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    I forgot about that. Can’t imagine. Just unheard of. Reminds me of the tribal and slave females that would give birth, feed the baby and go back out in the fields to continue working.

  10. jeswezey Says:

    June 8th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
    Maybe the conservative sweep in the European elections is a reaction to US spendthrift policies, but then again maybe it is not. The turnout was very low everywhere, and conservatives tend to benefit from that, even in the US. Remember that the turnout November 4 was very high, which was good for the Demicrats. When turnout is high in Europe, the same thing happens – the Socialists score high. People in Europe are just not interested in the European parliament because it doesn’t do anything. In national elections, though, the turnout is much higher and the left does much better.
    ————————
    In Europe a low turnout doesnt always benefit the right.

    After all, the turnout was low when they hung Mussolini.

  11. Well, I really hope that what is happening in the NY Senate is a sign of things to come. Although I wish they had gone independent, it’s better than nothing.

    Admin,

    Another timely and very well written article!

  12. Netanyahu and Obama hold ‘constructive’ talks by phone

    2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had “constructive” talks by phone ahead of the premier’s speech on the Middle East peace process next week, the White House said Monday.

    “The president and prime minister had a constructive, 20-minute conversation,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement. “The president reiterated the principal elements of his Cairo speech, including his commitment to Israel’s security. He indicated that he looked forward to hearing the prime minister’s upcoming speech outlining his views on peace and security.”

    For its part, Netanyahu’s office said that the “discussions were positive and covered a range of subjects. “Mr Netanyahu indicated to (Obama) that he intends to make a political statement next week setting out the broad outlines of his government’s policy to secure peace and security,” it said in a statement.

    “The two leaders agreed to maintain close and continual contact,” the statement said.

    The phone talks came as US Middle East envoy George Mitchell was due in Tel Aviv late Monday at the start of a new Middle East tour aimed at kick-starting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
    Mitchell is expected on Tuesday to hold talks in Jerusalem with Israeli leaders, including Netanyahu, President Shimon Peres and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

    The following day he is due in Ramallah in the occupied West Bank for meetings with Palestinian officials, including president Mahmud Abbas.

    Netanyahu has announced he would lay out his policies on the Middle East peace process next week but gave no date, although a senior government official told AFP it would probably be next Sunday.

    In a speech from Cairo to the Muslim world last Thursday, Obama reiterated Washington’s “unbreakable” bond with Israel, but vowed not to turn his back on Palestinian aspirations and repeated his call for a halt to Jewish settlements.

    Over the past few months tensions between the United States and its staunchest ally have risen to levels not seen in 20 years as Washington presses Netanyahu to publicly back the principle of a Palestinian state and freeze all settlement activity on occupied land.

    Netanyahu has resisted both demands, which are fiercely opposed by many in his largely right-wing government that analysts say would likely collapse if he bowed to Washington.

    Since coming to office in January, Obama has vowed to aggressively push the stalled peace process, raising fears in Israel that he may lessen Washington’s support for the Jewish state as he seeks to improve US ties with the Muslim world.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i6E6Kl-0sEv5WZMpCFoRQCspDdjQ

  13. Clinton Urges ‘Clemency’ for US Journalists in North Korea

    By David Gollust
    State Department
    08 June 2009

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has urged North Korea to grant clemency for two American journalists sentenced to 12 years in prison on Monday for illegally entering that country and another unspecified offense. Clinton said the United States is trying every possible channel to gain the Americans’ release.

    The Obama administration has tried to keep the case of the two journalists separate from broader problems with North Korea – including its recent nuclear test – and it is appealing for their release on humanitarian grounds, now that their brief close-door trial has ended.

    Americans Euna Lee and Laura Ling, who were detained along the North Korea-China border in mid-March, were sentenced to 12 years of hard labor for illegally entering the country and committing an undefined “grave crime” against the communist state.

    Although U.S. officials initially dismissed the charges against them as baseless, the Obama administration has since dropped that language. At a press conference with Indonesian Foreign Minister Noer Hassan Wirajuda, Secretary Clinton said the United States is focused on obtaining clemency for the two journalists – a matter she said that should be seen as separate from the nuclear issue.

    “We are pursuing every possible approach that we can consider in order to persuade the North Koreans to release them and send these young women home,” said Hillary Clinton. “We view these as entirely separate matters. We think the imprisonment trial and sentencing of Laura and Euna should be viewed as a humanitarian matter. We hope that the North Koreans will grant clemency and deport them. There are other concerns that we and the international community have with North Korea, but those are separate and apart from what’s happening to the two women.”

    Clinton declined to elaborate on her assertion that every possible channel with the North Koreans was being used. But officials here said this has included a letter to North Korean authorities from the Secretary, apparently urging clemency and explaining the circumstances of the two reporters’ presence along the border on March 17.

    The United States and North Korea do not maintain diplomatic relations, but they often exchange messages through North Korea’s U.N. mission in New York.
    The reporters were detained by North Korean border guards as they worked on a story about North Korean refugees in China for the California-based media company Current TV.

    There have been published suggestions that former Vice President Al Gore, a co-founder of Current TV, or some other senior U.S. political figure might travel to North Korea to intercede. But State Department Spokesman Ian Kelly declined comment on Monday, citing the sensitivity of the case.

    The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists urged world powers involved in stalled nuclear talks with North Korea to work collectively for the reporters’ release. A United Nations spokesman expressed concern about the “harsh” sentences and voiced hope for an expeditious resolution of the matter.

    voanews.com/english/2009-06-08-voa59.cfm

  14. Don’t know if this has been posted…

    New Gallup poll out today:

    “Gallup’s latest polling shows that the American electorate has begun to lose patience with Obamanomics. While Barack Obama continues to maintain high personal approval ratings, his budgetary policies have lost the majority. For the first time, Obama has more people disapproving of his spending and deficit plans than approving…”

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/120770/Obama-Rated-Highest-as-Person-Lowest-Deficit-Spending.aspx

  15. Richard Wolfe writing Obama has the greatest press operation in history…you think so Richard? I couldn’t imagine how that could have happened with the MSM and their “fair and balanced” coverage of all things Obama….

  16. jbstonesfan, The author of the Vanity Fair article is someone else named Wolff, believe it or not.

    I thought the excerpts posted were pretty interesting because they reinforce what we already knew about Obama’s manipulation of the media, but add more detail. That same manipulation was in evidence during the primaries, too, quite obviously.

  17. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/08/_its_time_to_change_the_tone_of_our_politics_coverage_96893.html

    In May, I made an appearance on “Hardball with Chris Matthews,” one of MSNBC’s political shows. The segment’s main focus was the current state of the Republican Party.

    When the segment ended and I walked off the set, I knew that that would likely be my last appearance on “Hardball.” I had decided that I would not accept another invitation to appear on the program, should one come. [snip]

    Chris Matthews is a smart, politically astute observer of politics, but my last appearance convinced me that “Hardball” has evolved from a straight political news program with quality guests to one that has more in common with its network’s prime-time slant. Like most of the evening programming on MSNBC and the Fox News Channel, “Hardball” has become a partisan, heavily ideological sledgehammer clearly intended to beat up one party and one point of view.

    During the show on which I appeared, Matthews referred more than once to Republicans as “Luddites” and took every opportunity imaginable to portray them as crackpots. The show’s topics inevitably pander to the most liberal Democratic viewers and present Republicans and conservatives in the least flattering of terms.

    I don’t mean to single out Matthews for criticism because he actually understands politics and I believe that he would prefer to do a serious political show. Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow and the newest addition to MSNBC’s unfortunate lineup, Ed Schultz, are far worse than “Hardball.”

    Depending on your politics, Fox’s one-two prime-time punch of Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity is either just as bad as the MSNBC crowd or much worse. They can’t talk about Democrats without labeling them as socialists or unpatriotic. O’Reilly’s obsession with General Electric and that company’s CEO is bizarre, though any program that treats Dick Morris seriously as an independent analyst obviously has major problems. [snip]

    Trying to be an unbiased reporter or neutral analyst on a heavily biased television program is incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. Either you end up fighting the host’s premises and rephrasing loaded questions, or you are tacitly accepting the way the host defines a situation, making yourself an accomplice to a political mugging.

    Obviously, it isn’t up to me to dictate to others who fashion themselves as neutral whether they should appear on these kinds of programs. They wouldn’t listen to me anyway, and for some, financial issues or public relations may be overriding considerations.

    But I know that I don’t want to appear on shows that push a partisan or ideological agenda and that care more about demonizing one point of view than having a real discussion. At the very least, I hope others will take a few moments to consider whether they, too, should appear on these kinds of programs.

  18. New Gallup poll out today:

    “Gallup’s latest polling shows that the American electorate has begun to lose patience with Obamanomics. While Barack Obama continues to maintain high personal approval ratings, his budgetary policies have lost the majority. For the first time, Obama has more people disapproving of his spending and deficit plans than approving…”

    Since Bambi admires Reagan I am sure he will remember one of the Gippers famous lines: Bambis budgetary policies have lost majority support? “You aint seen nothing yet!”

  19. Admin: thanks for the Rothenberg article. I have always respected him. I agree with the thrust of the article, and the problem is on both sides of the aisle. But the party most responsible for putting the sociopath in power is absolutely the left wing media . Also, they were more anti Hillary FOX with the obviouos exception of Dick Morris, who is strictly an opportunist.

    Also puzzled by his angst over O’Reilly’s attack on GE. My own research indicated that well before O’Reilley ever opined on the subject. I do not understand why Stuart refuses to recogize what is rather obvious
    in terms of the how and the why–the conclusion speaks for iteself.

  20. Netanyahu and Obama hold ‘constructive’ talks by phone
    ————————————–
    Bambi is starting to back down.

  21. Yes, admin, thanks for posting the Rothenberg article. Thought-provoking stuff, although this had me LOL:

    “though any program that treats Dick Morris seriously as an independent analyst obviously has major problems.”

  22. Its early-very early but my prediction on the Middle East is that Bambi will overcommit himself to both sides, and when the contradictions become untenable he will do a disappearing act.

  23. Wow, Admin. Stu Rothenberg, good for him. BTW you all know Chrissy of Hairball (not my original) show voted for Bush both times, right?

  24. Admin: I have heard that Obama intends to cut 300 billion out of the medicare medicade budget. Allegedly, the statement was made at a symposium chaired by Orzag and Summers. LaRouche says it. Do we have any corroborating proof, I wonder.

  25. Do we have any corroborating proof, I wonder.
    ************
    I haven’t found any yet..only repeats of the original Larouche piece.

  26. Michelle Goldberg blog:

    One year ago today, Hillary Clinton ended her presidential campaign, much to the relief of millions of ardent Barack Obama supporters like me. Throughout the primaries, I had been irritated and then outraged by those who argued feminism obliged women to back her. The possibility that our first female president would be a former first lady promising to continue her husband’s legacy struck me as profoundly dispiriting. During the campaign, her hardball tactics horrified me. So when she made her rousing and gracious speech in the National Building Museum, conceding defeat but celebrating “18 million cracks” in “that highest, hardest glass ceiling,” I was too furious to really hear her.

    Goldberg was “horrified” by Hillary’s “hardball tactics” during the campaign, but seems to like them now.

    Listening to [Hillary’s concession speech] now, though, I can’t help but tear up. I’m still glad I supported Obama, who I think is proving to be a better, defter president than Clinton would have been. Nevertheless, I was wrong to mistake her political ruthlessness for a lack of principle. Just as Clinton proved her skeptics wrong upon entering the Senate in 2001 with hard and diligent work, she is now quietly remaking the State Department. That’s especially true when it comes to women’s rights. As secretary of State, Hillary Clinton has been the feminist hero of this administration.

    ——–

    Clinton made it clear during her confirmation hearing that women’s rights would be at the center of her approach to foreign policy. “[O]f particular concern to me is the plight of women and girls, who comprise the majority of the world’s unhealthy, unschooled, unfed, and unpaid,” she said. “If half of the world’s population remains vulnerable to economic, political, legal, and social marginalization, our hope of advancing democracy and prosperity will remain in serious jeopardy. We still have a long way to go, and the United States must remain an unambiguous and unequivocal voice in support of women’s rights in every country, every region, on every continent.”

    Bully for Goldberg. If she was horrified by Clinton during the campaign, why does she laud Clinton now? Well, now she feels Clinton is doing “good work.” Fine, I suppose. But for Goldberg to just now realize that Hillary’s tough stances could actually benefit her and other women is breathtaking in its opportunism and condescension. What Goldberg didn’t like against a candidate with no history on women’s issues she now likes against others. While Goldberg didn’t concern herself with sexism during the campaign, she’s obviously back in the “agin it” column.

    This was the same unyielding pugilism Clinton had shown against Obama in the primaries, but it was a lot more fun to watch her aim it at the right. It was a reminder that the inexorable sense of righteousness that made Clinton so infuriating as an opponent makes her tremendously valuable as an ally.

    What Goldberg didn’t value during the campaign, she values now – even compliments. Goldberg must never have actually listened to Hillary, who promised this kind of work on behalf of women. Goldberg also must have ignored Hillary’s extensive record on women’s issues, believing all that mattered was Hillary’s support of her husband. And if Goldberg bought into the “racism” charge against Hillary, she was even more idiotic. There was never anything in Clinton’s record of nearly 40 years of public involvement to support that charge.

    As I write in an upcoming issue of The American Prospect, there are plenty of forces working against the creation of a feminist foreign policy. It may be beyond the scope of any American government to significantly improve the lives of women in anti-American countries on the other side of the world. But Clinton’s commitment has proven fierce and enduring.

    “Forces working against the creation of a feminist foreign policy” would have to include Goldberg herself. Outside of appointing Hillary herself, Obama’s record to date on women’s issues is scant. Except for using the whole “she’s on the rag” argument during the primary anyway. See Obama use that argument for Hillary’s being a tough opponent at about time 1:15. (BTW, this was definitely a sexist comment. In her 60s, Hillary is likely past menopause. So,this dog whistle is also against women in general. Replay whole video for tasty reminders of last year’s Hillary hate-a-thon.)
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    My personal email to Goldberg

    caption reads “too little-too late”

    Michelle– three things in response to your article on Hillarys new crusade.

    1. First, if you have not seen the Christopher Hedges article on Mr Obama you need to. Hedges was the middle east bureau chief for the New York Times. He is a principled progressive who voted for Obama and has since discovered that he is not at all what he believed him to be. Ralls and progressives have come to the same conclusion. Here is the link:
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090503_buying_brand_obama/

    2. Second, I campaigned for Hillary in four states against him and people like you. I was in Texas, Pennsylania, Indiana, and West Virginia all of which we won. I saw the discrimination that you apparently were oblivious to at the time. Following the campaign I wrote a lengthy piece entitled “The Real Story of the 2008 primary”. One of the subjects was big media bias in general, and sexism in particular. I prepared a pro forma civil complaint on the subject set forth below. You may find enlightening.

    3. Third, media moguls like Steve Capus at MSNBC and talking heads like Evan Thomas at Newsweek who seek to deny there was a pattern of practice of sexism directed against Hillary are a little like Holocaust deniers. The evidence is right there in front of them, but for political reasons, business reasons, or their own complicity they flatly deny it

    VTY

  27. The Wall Street Journal is questioning why the press isn’t more skeptical of Obama’s claims and how he is using it to his advantage for “spin” in the current economic crisis…

    “The Media Fall For Phony ‘Jobs’ Claims”

    online.wsj.com/article/SB124451592762396883.html

  28. Admin,

    Thanks for the extra tidbits about the NYS coup.
    I am delighted! The Assemblyman and County Legislators I cover in the Catskills are, for the most part, furious at Patterson and his cronies. One characterized the NYS budget process as “four thugs in a room” blocking out input from anyone else.

    It is obscene to me, as I sit through some of the town board hearings, to know some of the hardest working, neediest areas in the state are routinely passed over for funding of everything from emergency road repair, to EMS services. to agriculture assistance, for more PC constituencies. And this happens under both parties. But frankly, I despise race-baiting Patterson as well as his good pal Rangle who recently said that if Andrew Cuomo dares to challenge Patterson it would be RACIST! This was right after he said BO should think twice about visiting Harlem in the wake of the ‘friendly-fire’ cop killing of a black by a white cop. Rangel’s implication, of course, is that NYC is not a safe place for any AA.

    I am sick to death of the whole crew and I hope they all get thrown out sooner rather than later.

  29. “We’re going to need some wins next November to slow down their agenda,” said McConnell. House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said Democrats are using their control of Congress “to bury our children and the middle class under a mountain of debt.”

    Actor Jon Voight, the master of ceremonies, opened the evening with a series of sharp attacks on Obama, something many Republican leaders have been hesitant to do in light of the president’s high approval ratings.

    A USA Today/Gallup Poll taken May 29-31 gave him a 61 percent approval rating.

    ‘Weak Nation’

    “We are becoming a weak nation,” said Voight, calling Obama a “false prophet.” Republicans need to find their way back to power to free the nation from “this Obama oppression,” he said.

    Both McConnell and Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, who followed Voight, seemed pleasantly surprised.

    “I’m still just reveling that someone from Hollywood made a speech like that. I hope you’re going to be able to find work after this,” said McConnell. “I really enjoyed that.”

    Senator John Cornyn of Texas called the speech “refreshing.”

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    I needed to hear this……everybody has been tip-toeing around calling out on “THAT ZERO”!!!!…….except of course our admin and us folks!

  30. some humor to start the day

    The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on the same stage in front of a huge crowd.

    The Madame Speaker and His Holiness, however, have seen it all before. To make it a little more interesting, Madame Speaker says to the Pope, “Did You know that with just one little wave of my hand I can make every Democrat in the crowd go wild?”

    He doubts it, so she shows him.. Sure enough, the wave elicits rapture and cheering from every democrat in the crowd. Gradually, the cheering subsides.

    The Pope, not wanting to be outdone by such a level of arrogance, considers what he could do.

    “That was impressive, the Pope says, “But did you know that with just one little wave of MY hand I can make EVERY person in the crowd go crazy with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display like that of your subjects, but will go deep into their hearts, and they will forever speak of this day and rejoice.”

    The speaker seriously doubts this, and says so. “One little wave of your hand and all people will rejoice forever? Show me.”

    So the Pope slapped her..

  31. http://online.wsj.com/video/obama-voodoo-health-economics/F979C566-89E1-4F42-A617-89A079C16557.html
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    This is a video clip of an interview by Paul Gigot of the former Lt. Governor of New York who is an expert of heath care policy, who makes it perfectly clear that we do not have a health crisis, the obama health care program will lead to rationing at the hospital level and the government oversight body it will establish will be similar to the NICE Board which does not refuses to treat macular degeration until you have lost the first eye.

    http://online.wsj.com/video/obama-voodoo-health-economics/F979C566-89E1-4F42-A617-89A079C16557.html

    Milton Friedman’s wife Rose was asked whether the ideas of Milton Friedman were dead under Obama. She responded that what is dead now (under Obama) is common sense.

  32. which refuses to treat macular degeneration until after you have lost the first eye–its the British NICE board.

  33. McAuliffe gets scant support from Obama’s backers in Va.

    By Alexander Bolton and Kiera McCaffrey
    Posted: 06/08/09

    Democratic officials in Virginia who endorsed Barack Obama in his epic 2008 primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton have given scant support to Terry McAuliffe’s gubernatorial bid. A survey by The Hill shows that McAuliffe has not attracted many officials who lead the Democratic political infrastructure in Virginia, despite his four years at the helm of the Democratic National Committee. There is an especially strong trend away from McAuliffe among political insiders who backed Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary.

    The survey of Democratic mayors, party officials, state delegates, senators and county board members who backed Obama show an overwhelming preference for Brian Moran.

    The trend raises the question of whether McAuliffe is suffering political repercussions for his diehard support for Clinton in the contentious primary, which dragged on until June of last year. The Hill found that 44 state officials who backed Obama in 2008 are now in Moran’s camp. Only 19 state officials who backed Obama over Clinton now favor McAuliffe. Moran has done everything to capitalize on whatever resentments may still simmer among Obama supporters. The candidate has sent out a new campaign brochure highlighting an appearance McAuliffe made on “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” last June in which he proclaimed: “Kiss my a–, Barack.” Moran also has run a radio ad over the last several weeks reminding voters of the awkward moment in comedy.

    Pixie Bell, secretary of the Virginia Democratic Party, said that McAuliffe’s unyielding support for Clinton is one of several complaints about him among Democrats who sided early with Obama. “They sort of took their own sweet time in dropping out, when anyone who could count could see that he [Obama] had the votes,” she said of the Clinton campaign. Bell, who endorsed Obama over Clinton and has endorsed Moran, said that McAuliffe has salved some of those bruised feelings by hiring many of Obama’s old campaign workers. Hiring Obama field people “has obviously been to his benefit,” she said.

    McAuliffe’s campaign did not return requests for comment.

    Political experts in Virginia say that Obama supporters no doubt remember McAuliffe’s role in the 2008 primary but debate how much of an impact it will have among voters.
    “McAuliffe was the most adamant Hillary Clinton supporter in the country,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Of course, some of the most devoted Obama supporters remember that and resent it.”

    Peter Rousselot, the Arlington Democratic Committee Chairman, who pressed for Clinton to concede her race against Obama, said that resentment lingers, though he questioned whether it would have much impact on the race for governor. “I think that there might be some people who feel that way, but I have no way to measure if that’s a significant factor,” he said. Rousselot, who backs Moran, said that public officials may be have been slow to endorse McAuliffe because he is seen as an outsider who focused his career on federal politics in Washington. “I think the chatter has been more along the lines of the fact that the other two candidates besides McAuliffe have spent a long time in Virginia politics, active in politics,” he said.

    Twelve state officials who backed Obama last year now support state Sen. Creigh Deeds, who is leading McAuliffe and Moran in the polls. Political experts said it is not very surprising that Deeds trails Moran badly in endorsements by officials who backed Obama in ’08. Deeds represents rural central Virginia, while Moran hails from Northern Virginia, the Democratic hub made up of Washington’s sub- and exurbs. Moran, a former state delegate, also used to serve as the chairman of the Democratic caucus in Virginia’s State House.

    But McAuliffe, who served as Democratic Party chairman from 2001 to 2005, likewise had close proximity to Northern Virginia’s political establishment. He also had the opportunity to support party-building efforts in the state.

    But Michael McDonald, a political science professor at George Mason University, noted that Moran and Deeds have had years to concentrate on building relationships with state party officials. “First of all, McAuliffe is an outsider who will not generate as many endorsements as Moran and Deeds,” said McDonald. “They built up relationships with elected officials over a long period of time.” He also noted that Moran comes from Northern Virginia, where most state Democrats live. But he added that McAuliffe’s association with Clinton probably doesn’t help him with Obama’s staunchest supporters.

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/mcauliffe-gets-scant-support-from-obamas-backers-in-va.-2009-06-08.html

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    It’s to be hoped that the voters aren’t as stupid, juvenile, and petty as these dimocrats.

  34. Jun 9 2009, 8:37 am by Marc Ambinder

    Why the White House Hates Process Stories

    The fecund Monday news cycle almost made me miss a milestone of sorts: this White House managed to exist for nearly six months without experiencing the panic that a patented New York Times process story can produce. Jackie Calmes broke the streak (finally), with her piece on tensions among the administration’s chief economic policy advisers. What makes the article all the more remarkable is the way the administration tried to contain what could have been a pretty damning pastiche of scenes from inside the West Wing. They gave Calmes access to all the players and armed each one of them with the same message: acknowledge that Larry Summers is a bit of a character sometimes, acknowledge that brilliant people debating major policy in times of crisis often let off steam, but be faithful to the integrity of the process and respectful of your colleagues’ contributions.

    Had Calmes not been able to talk to Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner, or to Larry Summers, or to Christina Romer, the story would undoubtedly have had more of that snap-sounding impact. Calmes managed to advance a few good news nuggets, identifying the sides in key economic debates, hinting that Ben Bernanke might be reappointed as chair of the Fed, and taking readers into the debate over whether to rescue Chrysler. Overall, though, one is left with the impression that, while Larry Summers might be as mercurial and hard-headed as always, he runs a pretty good National Economic Council process. Plenty of views are expressed, and openly — and with a few exceptions, he welcomes the dissent. And in the end, and I think this is the saving grace from the White House’s POV — the President makes the decision and his team agrees to implement it. No harm done. Still, given the allergy of senior administration officials to process stories — by no means an uncommon malady that afflicts White Houses — one can almost hear the exhales that Calmes’s story wasn’t as bad as it could have been. At the same time, I can hear the gears clanging in the heads of those officials who make decisions about granting reporters access to decision makers: this…is…why…we…hate…process….stories.

    politics.theatlantic.com/2009/06/why_the_white_house_hates_process_stories.php

  35. White House, CIA battle over intel turf
    Published: June 9, 2009 at 8:16 AM

    A move by the Obama administration and key U.S. lawmakers to change the role of the CIA has produced an intelligence community turf battle, analysts say.

    Efforts by Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair to assert control over the CIA and bring it into a post-cold war realignment of U.S. intelligence services has encountered stiff resistance from CIA Director Leon Panetta, who says such moves jeopardize the agency’s relationships with foreign spies, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

    But Blair seems to be gaining the upper hand, the newspaper said, garnering the support of such key lawmakers as Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, who has said, “We need to move intelligence away from the cold war mind-set, and the CIA has a problem to some extent accepting that.”

    The Times said U.S. national security adviser James Jones has been trying to broker a peace between Blair and Panetta. Blair inherited an office created by the Bush administration in an effort to end intelligence turf battles that were partially blamed for failing to prevent the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks but that analysts say has left roles ill-defined.

    upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/09/White-House-CIA-battle-over-intel-turf/UPI-34721244549816/

  36. McAuliffe gets scant support from Obama’s backers in Va.

    By Alexander Bolton and Kiera McCaffrey
    Posted: 06/08/09

    Democratic officials in Virginia who endorsed Barack Obama in his epic 2008 primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton have given scant support to Terry McAuliffe’s gubernatorial bid. A survey by The Hill shows that McAuliffe has not attracted many officials who lead the Democratic political infrastructure in Virginia, despite his four years at the helm of the Democratic National Committee. There is an especially strong trend away from McAuliffe among political insiders who backed Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary. The survey of Democratic mayors, party officials, state delegates, senators and county board members who backed Obama show an overwhelming preference for Brian Moran.

    The trend raises the question of whether McAuliffe is suffering political repercussions for his diehard support for Clinton in the contentious primary, which dragged on until June of last year. The Hill found that 44 state officials who backed Obama in 2008 are now in Moran’s camp. Only 19 state officials who backed Obama over Clinton now favor McAuliffe.

    Moran has done everything to capitalize on whatever resentments may still simmer among Obama supporters. The candidate has sent out a new campaign brochure highlighting an appearance McAuliffe made on “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” last June in which he proclaimed: “Kiss my a–, Barack.” Moran also has run a radio ad over the last several weeks reminding voters of the awkward moment in comedy.

    Pixie Bell, secretary of the Virginia Democratic Party, said that McAuliffe’s unyielding support for Clinton is one of several complaints about him among Democrats who sided early with Obama. “They sort of took their own sweet time in dropping out, when anyone who could count could see that he [Obama] had the votes,” she said of the Clinton campaign. Bell, who endorsed Obama over Clinton and has endorsed Moran, said that McAuliffe has salved some of those bruised feelings by hiring many of Obama’s old campaign workers. Hiring Obama field people “has obviously been to his benefit,” she said.

    McAuliffe’s campaign did not return requests for comment.

    Political experts in Virginia say that Obama supporters no doubt remember McAuliffe’s role in the 2008 primary but debate how much of an impact it will have among voters.
    “McAuliffe was the most adamant Hillary Clinton supporter in the country,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Of course, some of the most devoted Obama supporters remember that and resent it.”

    Peter Rousselot, the Arlington Democratic Committee Chairman, who pressed for Clinton to concede her race against Obama, said that resentment lingers, though he questioned whether it would have much impact on the race for governor. “I think that there might be some people who feel that way, but I have no way to measure if that’s a significant factor,” he said. Rousselot, who backs Moran, said that public officials may be have been slow to endorse McAuliffe because he is seen as an outsider who focused his career on federal politics in Washington. “I think the chatter has been more along the lines of the fact that the other two candidates besides McAuliffe have spent a long time in Virginia politics, active in politics,” he said.

    Twelve state officials who backed Obama last year now support state Sen. Creigh Deeds, who is leading McAuliffe and Moran in the polls.

    Political experts said it is not very surprising that Deeds trails Moran badly in endorsements by officials who backed Obama in ’08. Deeds represents rural central Virginia, while Moran hails from Northern Virginia, the Democratic hub made up of Washington’s sub- and exurbs. Moran, a former state delegate, also used to serve as the chairman of the Democratic caucus in Virginia’s State House.

    But McAuliffe, who served as Democratic Party chairman from 2001 to 2005, likewise had close proximity to Northern Virginia’s political establishment. He also had the opportunity to support party-building efforts in the state.

    But Michael McDonald, a political science professor at George Mason University, noted that Moran and Deeds have had years to concentrate on building relationships with state party officials. “First of all, McAuliffe is an outsider who will not generate as many endorsements as Moran and Deeds,” said McDonald. “They built up relationships with elected officials over a long period of time.” He also noted that Moran comes from Northern Virginia, where most state Democrats live. But he added that McAuliffe’s association with Clinton probably doesn’t help him with Obama’s staunchest supporters.

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/mcauliffe-gets-scant-support-from-obamas-backers-in-va.-2009-06-08.html

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    It is to be hoped that the voters don’t turn out to be as narrowminded, juvenile, and petty as these idiot dimocrats.

  37. The Traditional Concept of the law was based on the common law experience and was predicated on notions of limited government, political neutrality and equal justice under the law. Justice was blind.

    Under the traditional concept of the law there was room for competing philosophies, and different concepts of how interventionist judges should be. Some argued that the judges should confine themselves to interpreting the law, and now second guess the constitiution or the legislature (Scalia, Harlan, etc.). Others believed the constitution should be interpreted in relation to the times, and natural law should be used to do so (pre-Lochner on propery rights, Warren on personal rights).

    But the concept of the law was essentially agreed on and the debate took place largely within that framework. However, when I was in law school the early 1970s two alternative (and competing) legal doctries arose to challenge the traditional concept .

    One of those competing legal doctrines was known as the Economic Concept of the law which applied free market theory to legal decision making and stressed the efficiency of outcomes. The foremost exponent of that view was Richard Poesner was a professor at the University of Chicago which was also home to Milton Friedman at the time as well. Later, he became a well regarded judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. One of my professors studied under him and pushed the concept in his classroom. This concept of the law would be compatible with Bush philosophy.

    The other non-traditional school which emerged during that era to challenge the traditional concept of the law was something called Critical Legal Thinking. It founder was named Robert Unger, and another professor of mine studied under him. This concept of law is very different–and radical in its implications for society. It holds that the traditional concept of law is fatally flawed because under the pretext of neutrality it actually protects the privileged status of the wealthy and treats the poor as second class citizens. It is therefore Marxist in its implications. The buzz word is “empathy”. The Critical Legal Thinking school holds that judges ought to take race, gender and economic status into consideration when they render decisions.

    It has been suggested that the judical nominee subscribes to the Critical Legal Thinking School. I heard that this morning on the Wall Street Journal report, but they did not explain its ramifications or context as I just did. Even if it is true, her appointment alone will not shift the court philosophy in that direction. But it may well indicate a trend in judical appointments which The Fraud will apply to future appointees. He may attempt to pack the Supreme Court, and more likely the Appellate and District Courts with these kind of people.

    I have not heard anyone say this. But I would venture to guess that six months hence you will be hearing it on FOX and places like that. Mainstream media will cover it up under the traditional concept because they are far far far too corrupt to tell the truth about what is really going on under this tyrant.

  38. I see O’Reily is in trouble and appologzing to another network, for the massive coverage of the Abortion Doctors death, and little to none of the soldiers death. Is this ORs slick way of getting the second story more air time?

  39. I see O’Reily is in trouble and appologzing to another network, for the massive coverage of the Abortion Doctors death, and little to none of the soldiers death. Is this ORs slick way of getting the second story more air time?
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    Brilliant. One of the many uses of the apology tactic by politicians and talking heads.

  40. I can’t help wondering of bambi and his handlers ordered the state dims to diss McAuliffe big time. Almost all withheld their endorsements.

  41. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_C._Blair
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    6th generation naval officer, great great great grandfather a chief engineer in the Confederate Navy, accused of disobeying orders, very active in the intelligence community, fighting with Leon Panetta, and operating under the delusion that he can serve the country as Director of National Security under the faud–there is just alot going on here. He was truthful about the efficacy of waterboarding, but said he did not agree with it. Obama then covered up what he said–the disappearing memo, etc. I think I like the guy except for the Obama part. But like Rommel he is politically naive.

  42. I can’t help wondering of bambi and his handlers ordered the state dims to diss McAuliffe big time. Almost all withheld their endorsements.
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    Did they endorse his opponent”

  43. JanH

    I think OR spinned it, but claimed the other network did not, and they came back with footage that they had. Really resulted in another round of exposure.

    wbboei

    I agree, that is a brillant tactic.

    I hope that McAuliffe wins also. We need more centered Ds and Rs. That will really nullify the DL majority.

    I still say the economy and the debt will be the Achillies heel here. Throwing money at the problem or borrowing to eliminate a current problem only works so long if you don’t have a strategic get out of debt plan. Inflation, without rises in fixed and regular incomes will speak louder than speeches, or fixed polls.

  44. wbboei,

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/mcauliffe-gets-scant-support-from-obamas-backers-in-va.-2009-06-08.html

  45. I would love to see Terry win, but it is too soon for the hopium to wear off. Give it a year and the result would be different–except that virginia is one of the two states that is benefitting from the explosive growth in goverment.

  46. June 10, 2009

    U.S. Envoy Meets Israeli Officials

    By ISABEL KERSHNER and ALAN COWELL

    JERUSALEM — Five days after President Obama’s landmark speech in Cairo, his Middle East envoy, George J. Mitchell, met Israeli officials Tuesday to stress America’s friendship and urge the “prompt resumption and early conclusion” of peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. His discussions coincided with growing strains between Israel and the Obama administration, which wants Israel to freeze settlement construction in the West Bank and to explicitly endorse the notion of establishing a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insists that construction should continue within existing settlements and has balked at publicly backing the two-state proposal for peace enshrined in earlier negotiations.

    After talks with President Shimon Peres and other officials on Tuesday, Mr. Mitchell stressed that Washington’s “commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable.” But, days before Mr. Netanyahu plans to deliver a much-heralded speech on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, Mr. Mitchell repeated that the United States sought the creation of a “Palestinian state side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel.”

    He stressed that Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had said that Israel and the Palestinians “have a responsibility to meet their obligations under the road map” — a reference to earlier peace terms in 2003 that call for a freeze on settlement construction while enjoining the Palestinian Authority to curb militant violence. “It’s not just their responsibility,” Mr. Mitchell said. “We believe it’s in their security interest as well. But it’s also in the interest of all others to seek to promote peace — Americans, Europeans, Arabs and others — to support this effort to tangible steps. And we all share an obligation to create the conditions for the prompt resumption and early conclusion of negotiations.” He added: “Let me be clear. These are not disagreements among adversaries. The United States and Israel are and will remain close allies and friends.” Mr. Mitchell planned to meet Mr. Netanyahu later Tuesday and to hold talks on Wednesday with the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas.

    Mr. Mitchell’s visit is the first diplomatic move since President Obama’s speech last Thursday on America’s relations with the Muslim world in which he said the “unbreakable” bond between the United States and Israel was “based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.”

    “On the other hand,” Mr. Obama said in Cairo, ”it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people — Muslims and Christians — have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years, they’ve endured the pain of dislocation.” He said Americans ”will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity and a state of their own.”

    Visiting Germany a day after the Cairo speech, Mr. Obama also put Israelis and Palestinians on notice that it was up to them to make “difficult compromises.”

    nytimes.com/2009/06/10/world/middleeast/10mideast.html?hp

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    This “for their own security” crap is just that. Israel will be less secure than ever if they give in to this garbage.

  47. Throughout Middle East history, the Arabs have never honored any roadmaps, so why all of a sudden does Israel have to?

  48. JERUSALEM — Five days after President Obama’s landmark speech in Cairo, his Middle East envoy, George J. Mitchell, met Israeli officials Tuesday to stress America’s friendship and urge the “prompt resumption and early conclusion” of peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. His discussions coincided with growing strains between Israel and the Obama administration, which wants Israel to freeze settlement construction in the West Bank and to explicitly endorse the notion of establishing a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insists that construction should continue within existing settlements and has balked at publicly backing the two-state proposal for peace enshrined in earlier negotiations.

    After talks with President Shimon Peres and other officials on Tuesday, Mr. Mitchell stressed that Washington’s “commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable.” But, days before Mr. Netanyahu plans to deliver a much-heralded speech on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, Mr. Mitchell repeated that the United States sought the creation of a “Palestinian state side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel.”
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    You can see what has happened here. Obama fucked up with his speech. He bought into the Palestinian view and used provocative buzz words, and he made no mention of Iran.

    Consequently, a speech forthcoming from Bibi which will respond to Mr. Obama–in light of the entire res gestae, including Abbas refusal to negotiate and the proposal by the Saudi Prince to cut off US aid to Israel.

    Therefore, Bambi panics and sends Mitchell in to say in effect he didnt mean what he said–the subtext. Please temper your speech accordingly, so you do not make Obama look like the idiot he is.

    Given this history, the question Bibi and the people of Israel must ask themselves is whether Obamas words of assurance can be trusted. They should weigh that question carefully against his Saudi connections, his sociopathology, and the number of promises he has made to supporter which he has subsequently broken.

    In my view, it comes down to this:

    Question: can Obama be entrusted with your survival?

    Answer: does a cat bark?

  49. “The question Bibi and the people of Israel must ask themselves is whether Obamas words of assurance can be trusted.”

    HE!! NO!!!!!!!

    On another gruesome note, I am not going to post the link to this clip but yet another video of radical muslims beheading a european-looking woman in front of her boyfriend. It is beyond comprehension that this county could even consider accepting these barbarians. That was on of the most disturbing clips I’ve seen and I’ve viewed several dozens. As usual, the hackers dance around with her head, shoving it in the boyfriends face after butchering her.

    I never see or hear of Christians or Jews treating enemies like this. And I am not a member of any formal religion.

  50. This “for their own security” crap is just that. Israel will be less secure than ever if they give in to this garbage.
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    I don’t understand the emphasis on the settlement issue….It’s coming from the White House and Hillary is being told what to say. Talking settlements basically says that it’s the Jews who are blocking “peace” because they want to grab more land. The bottom line has always been the same, elimination of Israel as a Jewish State. That is why all Arab “peace” proposals have as the bottom line UN 242 (return to pre-67 borders) and UN 194 (right of return) those two UN resolutions equal the destruction of Israel as a Jewish State. When Obama talks “settlements” he is waving the “bloody flag” of anti-Israel propaganda.

  51. wbboei

    Let’s see, so when does a community organization have to make major international speeches about complicated issues, and walk on a tight rope of dipolomacy. I guess that experience is not helping him much, but then since he walks on water, it does not matter.

    Trust, maybe if we go back to history, what little we have, and ask the tenants of the slums in his district about trust. Again does not matter as he walks on water.

    Or maybe we should look at the secret commuications between Os staff and Canada, on issues, where he literally said, do not believe what I say on this issue. I guess we don’t know the outcome on that, so there is really not enough hsitory there.

    Oh Well, he walks on Water.

  52. I don’t understand the emphasis on the settlement issue….It’s coming from the White House and Hillary is being told what to say. Talking settlements basically says that it’s the Jews who are blocking “peace” because they want to grab more land. The bottom line has always been the same, elimination of Israel as a Jewish State. That is why all Arab “peace” proposals have as the bottom line UN 242 (return to pre-67 borders) and UN 194 (right of return) those two UN resolutions equal the destruction of Israel as a Jewish State. When Obama talks “settlements” he is waving the “bloody flag” of anti-Israel propaganda.
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    Absolutely.

  53. Oh Well, he walks on Water.
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    Until the ice between people’s heads cracks and they start thinking again. Then he will drown.

  54. On another gruesome note, I am not going to post the link to this clip but yet another video of radical muslims beheading a european-looking woman in front of her boyfriend
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    Are they perchance shirtail relatives to Barack? When will they emigrate illegally to the United States, with the rest of his clan?

    I am joking of course. But as they say many a truth is said in jest.

  55. If Terry wins there is hope. If Terry does not win we need a third party.

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    Well a win for Terry as well as what happened in the NY senate yesterday is a good sign. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

  56. wbboei Says:

    June 8th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
    Michelle Goldberg blog:

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    bravo!

  57. Looks like Mr. Obama’s mea culpa blame america and israel first has drawn rave reviews from the Iranian People. Under Barack our approval rating among Iranians has slipped from 34 to 29 percent. If they can figure out the guy is a fraud, why can’t we. I guess it is because they do not have corrupt big media to contend with.
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    Foreign Policy Magazine: Stat of the day: According to a new poll, 29 percent of Iranians hold a positive view toward the United States, down from 34 percent in February, 2008.

  58. Oh give me your poor, tired, huddled masses who yearn to breathe free.
    Gitmo detainee transferred to U.S. from Gitmo to New York thanks to bambi. Again, from Foreign Affairs Magazine.

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    Top Story: The first Gunantanamo detainee has been brought to the United States for trial. Tanzanian Ahmed Ghailani, a suspected in the 1998 bombings of U.S. two U.S. embassies in East Africa was flown to New York early this morning. He will appear in a Federal Court in Manhattan later today. Ghailani has been held at Guantanamo since 2006.

    Four other men have already been tried and convicted in the New York court for their role in the attacks. All are currently serving life sentences. President Barack Obama has ordered the prison at Guantanamo closed by the end January

  59. The more that I think about it, I think the Israeli “hard liners” are correct. For Israel, there is no road map for peace in the Middle-East and any “concessions” by Israel to move the peace process “forward” are only tactical for their survival. For the Arab States, there isn’t any “angst” about Mid-East peace, their road map has always been clear, elimination of the Jewish State. (Sadat may have been an exception and he was removed)

  60. ‘Are they perchance shirtail relatives to Barack? When will they emigrate illegally to the United States, with the rest of his clan?’

    I wouldn’t be surprised to learn they’re already here. OK, maybe not blood relatives but jihadists nonetheless.

    The Arkansas soldier-murderer. The Newburgh 4. The Wayne, NJ pipebombs.

  61. I think that by moving Guantanimo terrorists into regular prison populations it is just going to become a breeding ground for recruitment.

  62. This is an example of dishonest jornalism. If you read it carefully, you see that roughly 1 of 3 officials who supported bambi in the primary support terry now. What about the public officials who supported hillary in the primary? It says nothing about them, other than suggesting they are not running the party now. Typical of The Hill. The question is whether the hopium has worn off with the voters.
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    McAuliffe gets scant support from Obama’s backers in Va.

    By Alexander Bolton and Kiera McCaffrey
    Posted: 06/08/09

    Democratic officials in Virginia who endorsed Barack Obama in his epic 2008 primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton have given scant support to Terry McAuliffe’s gubernatorial bid. A survey by The Hill shows that McAuliffe has not attracted many officials who lead the Democratic political infrastructure in Virginia, despite his four years at the helm of the Democratic National Committee. There is an especially strong trend away from McAuliffe among political insiders who backed Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary. The survey of Democratic mayors, party officials, state delegates, senators and county board members who backed Obama show an overwhelming preference for Brian Moran.

    The trend raises the question of whether McAuliffe is suffering political repercussions for his diehard support for Clinton in the contentious primary, which dragged on until June of last year. The Hill found that 44 state officials who backed Obama in 2008 are now in Moran’s camp. Only 19 state officials who backed Obama over Clinton now favor McAuliffe.

  63. The more that I think about it, I think the Israeli “hard liners” are correct. For Israel, there is no road map for peace in the Middle-East and any “concessions” by Israel to move the peace process “forward” are only tactical for their survival. For the Arab States, there isn’t any “angst” about Mid-East peace, their road map has always been clear, elimination of the Jewish State. (Sadat may have been an exception and he was removed)
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    Funny. I was sitting here after reading your prior post about those UN resolutions and thinking the exact same thing.

  64. The Arkansas soldier-murderer.
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    Zero reporting from the MSM on the first Islamist terrorist killing in the US since 9/11. Also not reported was that, in addition to having maps showing locations of recruiting centers, there were also Google maps with locations of “Jewish” sites.

  65. My last comment did not post, but what I said in essence was the Hill article claiming that Terry received scant support from state officials is materially misleading. The claim is that 19 support him and 44 his opponent the corrupt Mr. Moran. But those were officials who supported The Fraud in the Primary. It says nothing about those who supported Hillary. Also, it says in the fine print it doesnt make a tinkers damn bit of difference. Now that is an example of great reporting.

  66. wbboei Says:

    June 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

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    Thanks for clearing that up.

  67. Funny. I was sitting here after reading your prior post about those UN resolutions and thinking the exact same thing.
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    JanH has probably been the biggest influence for me to reconsider my non-Jewish perspective on Mid-East peace. It had seemed logical to me that if each side gave a “little”, a two state solution was possible. Pure “magical” thinking on my part; isn’t going to happen. Another factor that reoriented my thinking is the increasing anti-Israel movement on my side of the political spectrum, the left. To give it the most benign interpretation, I think is a product of the generation raised on the concept of “cultural-social” equivalency. It perhaps is the mirror image of the “evangelicals” who love Israel and Jews, not so much.

  68. I think is a product of the generation raised on the concept of “cultural-social” equivalency. It perhaps is the mirror image of the “evangelicals” who love Israel and Jews, not so much.
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    I think that evolution by the left was inevitable for two reasons. First, they are suspect of all religion because it does not rely on empiral evidence and can provide cover for bad behavior, as history attests. Second, and more important, whereas the right believes in the tragic view of the human condition and that human beings left to their own devices will do bad things, the left believes in the perfectability of human beings, and that can be achieved by leaders who express good intentions and are willing to use the coercive capabilities of the state in such areas as social engineering etc. At its best the left produces libery. At its worst, communism and facism. Hillary represents the best and Barack Hussein Obama represents the very worst. That is why I love Hillary and hate Barack–intellectually speaking. But getting back to Israel the idea of a religious state is foreign to their thinking and they believe that with the right kind of social engineering the terrorism will be renounced by radical groups as an instrument of policy.

    I think it is also a naiive faith in the efficacy of social engineering, favored by the left. It is a repudiation of the tragic view of the human condition and an affirmation of the perfectabilty of human beings, if we merely had wise well intentioned leaders. For me it is yet another example of the wisdom of Edmund Burke who comes from my side of the spectrum, and was a great proponent in Parliament of the American Revolution and a great sceptic of the French Revolution, who once said: “The French are so consumed with the rights of man, that they have totally forgotten his nature.”

  69. I think if they are going to follow any roadmap at all, the Israeli’s should push one that gives them “all” of the land that was promised to the Jews from the beginning of time, from their first settling of the land.

  70. SHV,

    It’s frightening that it’s not covered.
    Neither are the other incidents I cited.
    Like I said upthread, even though I am not a fan of institutionalized religions I haven’t read anything about Christianity or Judaism devotees performing the type of savage, brutal tortures that jihadists are partial to.
    And that scares the friggin cr@p outta me. Not to mention the treatment of women by islamo-fascists.

  71. UGHHHH!!!!!!!
    I’m listening to talk radio and Mika zhezhinski (Brezinski) of the Scarborough Show just came on board plugging the Atlas marble and granite company like that guy Billie who pitches those strange info-products.

    D@mn but she must really be scraping the bottom, now.

    I’m delighted she’s evidently having career problems.

  72. Sorry. I am getting very sloppy. Let me see if I can clean up the last post of mine because I think the ideas are worth considering:
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    By my reading of history, the Left has always had a tendency toward anti semitism. This tendency arises as a result of two factors:

    1. first, the Left’s abiding suspicion of religion in general. That suspicion is based on the fact that religion does not rely on empirical evidence, but is based on faith which cannot be verified under laboratory conditions. Also, throughout human history religion has provided a pretext for bad acts. Finally, religion represents a competing source of power to the absolute control of the individual by The all powerful State.

    2. second, the Left believes in the perfectability of human nature. It maintains that if virutuous people ran government then self interest would be eradicated and the public good (pro bono publico) would ensue. Of course, those enlightened leaders would need to use the tools of coercion to ensure that the public at large abandoned the old ways, and followed the enlightened path. Social engineering, re-education camps and other Orwellian tools are placed at its disposal.

    This has profound ramifications for the Arab Israeli dispute for this reason. People like Obama tend to dismiss the central importance of religion–and religious differences in the cauldron of conflict. Also, they tend to believe that they can show all parties a secular path to a better life, and engage in social engineering to make new people out of the stakeholders. The New Man concept was central to the thinking of Nazis and Bolsheviks alike. Here they would use the phrase Citizen of the Middle East. It would be the death of Israel as we know it. And a terrible loss to civilization were it to succeed.

    When I listen to Obama people and their notion of an Arab Israeli settlement I cannot help but recall the words Edmund Burke who was the leader of the British Parliament in the late eighteenth century, a great friend of the American Revolution, but a great sceptic of the French Revolution (the progenitor of the modern left): ” The French are so consumed with the Rights of Man that they have totally forgotten his nature.”

  73. “The French are so consumed with the rights of man, that they have totally forgotten his nature.”
    ************
    So true…The fundamentals of human behavior and social structure are the product of millions of years of evolution and are at their foundations “universal”. The one difference that humans have compared to all other living things, is that we can reason and can modify the expression of our “natural” behavior. Most of the social “science” theories about our peaceful primate and early human ancestors was pure projection by “social engineers” and ignored reality. Of the 4,000 or so species of mammals, two species are characterized by “Patrilocality” and aggressive, lethal violence; Chimpanzee and Humans.

  74. June 9, 2009

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Honored with Alice Award

    The Sewall-Belmont House and Museum presented Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with its Alice Award yesterday, honoring her for putting “eighteen million cracks in the glass ceiling.” The museum also recognized Clinton’s support for the establishment of the Save America’s Treasures program in the 1990s, which designated the Sewall-Belmont House as one of four national preservation projects.

    In her remarks accepting the award, Clinton said “there is so much work to be done to improve the status of women and girls in many parts of the world. Every single day, you can pick up the newspaper or turn on the TV or log on to a website and see the reports of terrible assaults on women’s progress. We have to fight these attacks on women’s rights, and we have to address the conditions that hold women back and continue to make them the majority of the world’s poor, hungry, and unhealthy.”

    The Alice Award is named for Alice Paul, suffragist and founder of the National Woman’s Party. The award is presented annually to a woman who has “broken barriers and set new precedents for women,” according to a State Department press release. Past recipients of the award include Katie Couric, Senators Mary Landrieu and Kay Bailey Hutchison, and Cokie Roberts.

    The Sewall-Belmont House was the headquarters of the National Woman’s Party and is listed in the National Register of Historic Places. Today the house is used as a facility for education about women’s suffrage and the struggle for gender equality. It is located next to the Senate Hart Office Building in Washington, DC.

    msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?ID=11743

  75. Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009

    Dismay Over Obama’s ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Turnabout

    By Mark Thompson

    When Barack Obama sought the presidency, he pledged to reverse the “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy preventing gays and lesbians from serving openly in the U.S. military. Yet on Monday, the Supreme Court rejected a gay Ohio soldier’s challenge to the law — with the legal backing of none other than the Obama Administration.

    James Pietrangelo II, the former Army infantryman and lawyer whose case the high court declined to review, reserved most of his ire for President Obama instead of the court. “He’s a coward, a bigot and a pathological liar,” Pietrangelo said in an interview with TIME shortly after the high court declined to hear his appeal. “This is a guy who spent more time picking out his dog, Bo, and playing with him on the White House lawn than he has working for equality for gay people,” he added. “If there were millions of black people as second-class citizens, or millions of Jews or Irish, he would have acted immediately” upon taking office to begin working to lift “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” Pietrangelo fought in Iraq in 1991 as an infantryman, and returned as a JAG officer for the second Iraq War, before being booted out in 2004 for declaring he was gay as he was readying for a third combat tour. He was representing himself before the high court. (See pictures of the gay rights movement.)

    The Obama Administration, in its brief in the case last month, said a lower court acted properly in upholding the gay ban. “Applying the strong deference traditionally afforded to the Legislative and Executive Branches in the area of military affairs, the court of appeals properly upheld the statute,” argued Elena Kagan, who as Solicitor General represents the Administration before the Supreme Court. The bar on gays serving openly is “rationally related to the government’s legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion,” her 12-page filing added.

    The endorsement of “Don’t ask, don’t tell” by the Administration marks the latest rightward tack by Obama. The President denounced many of George W. Bush’s national-security policies during the campaign, but in office has adopted more conservative positions, including endorsing military commissions to try purported terrorists, and declining to release a second batch of photographs depicting alleged U.S. maltreatment of Iraqi detainees. His stance on “Don’t ask, don’t tell” may be more surprising, because Obama aides have made clear the President wants the ban lifted eventually. (Watch a gay marriage wedding video.)

    Pietrangelo doesn’t buy the line from Obama aides — and the Pentagon — that they’re too busy grappling with a faltering economy and two wars to handle the gay ban right away. “It’s a complete lie that he has too much stuff on his plate — this is the guy who criticized Bush for not being able to multitask,” Pietrangelo says. “We have an old saying in the military — the maximum effective range of an excuse is zero meters.” Pietrangelo and others argue that Obama has leeway under the law that codified “Don’t ask, don’t tell” after the 1993 outcry when Bill Clinton tried to allow gays and lesbians to serve openly. The President, they say, could instruct the Secretary of Defense, who has the sole power to carry out the law, to make investigations a rarity, so that “Don’t ask, don’t tell” simply does not function. Indeed, Obama could tell the Pentagon that, as a general matter, it is not in the best interest of the armed forces to expel a service member solely for saying he or she is gay or bisexual.

    But the trouble is that the law was passed by Congress and, if Obama decided to go around the legislature, he would face political blowback. The current law allows gays to serve, so long as they keep their sexual orientation secret. The legislation means that a majority of the 535 members of Congress is going to have to vote to undo the ban — and that will have its political fallout. Obama is plainly taking his cue from the 1993 fiasco, which hurt Clinton’s relationship with conservative members of Congress, both Democratic and Republican, and with many in uniform.

    But Obama also has some ammunition that Clinton never had: a new Gallup poll finds that most conservatives — 58% — now support openly gay people serving in uniform (nationally, 69% support the change; when Clinton assumed office, a Gallup poll found 53% of those polled opposed lifting the ban). Perhaps even more surprising, 58% of self-described Republicans, and 60% of weekly churchgoers, also support gay men and women serving openly in uniform. “While the Administration to date has not taken action on the issue,” the polling firm reported last Friday, “the Gallup Poll data indicate that the public-opinion environment favors such a move.”

    time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1903545,00.html?imw=Y

  76. SHV: I read the latest offering from La Rouche and I am worried. It looks like we are facing a global finacial collapse the likes of which we have not seen since the Fall of The House of Bardi, which ushed in The Dark Ages. Apparently, the culprits are the Queen of England and Summers–but not Obama. Obama it seems is innocent and does not quite understand the evil that is being done under his name.

    I find this delusional. How can La Rouche give Bambi a pass? As for the rest of it, I hope to hell he is wrong.

  77. But the trouble is that the law was passed by Congress and, if Obama decided to go around the legislature, he would face political blowback.
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    That where Clinton got into trouble when, at a “town-hall” at Harvard(?), he said he would rescind the ban on gays in the Military. His mental frame work for making that statement was Truman’s exec. order ending segregation in the military. The was on crucial difference,however, being Black in the military wasn’t illegal and was based, for the most part on social convention and exec order from Pres. Wilson(?). Homosexuality was illegal under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and when Clinton tried to have the law changed he was, among other problems, stabbed in the back by Colin Powell and Sam Nunn. DADT was compromise change in the UCMJ.

    The UCMJ is a Constitutionally separate justice system and it is very unusual for Federal Courts, including the SC, to interfere. From my limited reading, the President can’t change or repeal DADT, that has to be done by Congress. Some attys. familiar with the UCMJ say that even if the Pres. can’t repeal the law, he can, as Commander in Chief, issue an exe. order that would put a hold on the “findings” process that eventually leads to a discharge from the service. Again, from the same legal opinion, once the finding of violation of DADT is made, there is nothing that the President can do to reverse the discharge.

    What I have said may also be nonsense. Public opinions by people who are experts in the arcane nature of the UCMJ aren’t easy to find.

  78. Obama it seems is innocent and does not quite understand the evil that is being done under his name.
    ************
    That is the conundrum of Obama isn’t it. One theory is that he is the evil Marxist, Manchurian Candidate, who is out to destroy American. The other extreme is that he is a total stooge for what ever political movement that particular person fears the most. At the moment, my current belief is that Obama is basically without a political philosophy and he will go with whomever or whatever seem to benefit him at any given time. I think he is a person of somewhat above average intelligence who with personal skill and luck has gotten ahead in life. He is a highly socialize sociopath who is incurious and not particularly well educated. He has no agenda other than himself and it is very unclear to me who and how “his” political agenda is formulated and to what end. At the present time, there is no theme to the Obama Presidency other that the glorification of Obama. As an example, his DOJ policies are even more authoritarian than those of the Bush/Cheney police state. He has been in office five months; it seems like five years.

  79. The question for me is whether he deliberately made campaign promises to the masses that he new he couldn’t ever achieve in order to get elected. Did his handlers promise the moon? Why did normally intelligent people get brainwashed by this idiot?

    The idea that a single person worships this man as if he were some kind of “GOD” is scary as hell.

  80. By KELLY P. KISSEL
    Associated Press Writer
    LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) – A Muslim convert charged in the shooting death of an American soldier told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he didn’t consider the killing a murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East made the killing justified.

    I do feel I’m not guilty,” Abdulhakim Muhammad, 23, said in a collect call from the Pulaski County jail. “I don’t think it was murder, because murder is when a person kills another person without justified reason.”

    “Yes, I did tell the police upon my arrest that this was an act of retaliation, and not a reaction on the soldiers personally,” Muhammad said. He called it “a act, for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world, and also a retaliation on U.S. military.”

    Muhammad said he wanted revenge for claims that American military personnel had desecrated copies of the Quran and killed or raped Muslims. “For this reason, no Muslim, male or female, sane or insane, little, big, small, old can accept or tolerate,” he said.

    ww.fox16.com/news/local/story/Soldier-shooting-suspect-tells-AP-he-was-justified/aiNrzA0_XU6-Q5IZXv4yUw.cspx

    Going for a psych. defense??????

  81. The taking of a human (actor, sports hero, political leader), and worshiping them like God always disappoints, as they have feet of clay. The higher they are placed the longer the fall. There are many out there that know exactly the defects of this man, and have kept quiet or were threatened not to speak. I feel they bear some of the responsibility of what is happening to this country, as they did not have the courage to speak up. Formost amoung them are the Judicial system who have not supported the electorates right to see and examaine the birth record, and the college records of each and every individual who runs for office, even though to get many other jobs in the country, less important than the Presidency, you must provide just that information.

  82. The Michael Wolf piece pretty much summed it up. Moreover, when you have the group at MSNC, NBC, and so called journalist’s like Robinson, Dowd, just to name a few, in the tank for you, there is little if anything that can stop Obama and his plans . I think one “journalist” recently referred to him as like a “god”!!! We have never seen anything like this and very little stands in between Obama and his misguided views on everything from the economy to middle east policy. He will , sadly, get his way as not one MSM type will question him. It is all been preordained imo.
    What is upsetting, however, is that Hillary and Bill have chosen to go a long with it in the hopes she can make her mark as SOS. I am now convinced more than ever, that it was a mistake for her to accept this position. I know I originally thought it was her only option, but she would have been better served (actually our country and world would be better served) if she had remained an obstacle to Obama and his plans.

  83. JanH Says:

    June 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
    June 9, 2009

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Honored with Alice Award

    The Alice Award is named for Alice Paul, suffragist and founder of the National Woman’s Party.
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    My wife grew up in Cinnaminson, NJ, just a few miles outside Philadelphia. Cinnaminson is just next to Moorestown where Alice Paul was born. And we often visited her grave at the (Quaker) Friends cemetary in Cinnaminson, right near Rt. 130. It is a beautiful little cemetary.

  84. MR. RESPONSIBLE?

    If the Gipper were alive: “There you go again, Mr. Obama. You say one thing, but you do the opposite.”

    yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_budget

    Obama pitches pay-as-you-go plan for Congress
    ==================================

    By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer – 15 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Tuesday challenged Congress to pay for new increases in federal benefit programs as it goes rather than sink the nation deeper into a debt, calling it a matter of public responsibility. Republicans lashed back that Obama is no voice of fiscal restraint as the deficit soars.

    The president’s plan would require Congress to pay for new entitlement spending, such as health care, by raising taxes or coming up with budget cuts — a “pay-as-you-go” system that would have the force of law. Under the proposal, if new spending or tax reductions are not offset, there would be automatic cuts in so-called mandatory programs — although Social Security payments and some other programs would be exempt.

    Not noted by the president: Tuesday’s plan is a watered-down version of the so-called “PAYGO” rules proposed just last month in his own budget plan.

    That version would have required, on average, all affected legislation to be paid for in the very first year. The new plan only requires such legislation to be financed over the coming decade. That mirrors congressional rules and reflects the likelihood that health care reform will add to the deficit in the early years.

    Obama said the principle is simple: Congress can only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar somewhere else.

    “It is no coincidence that this rule was in place when we moved from record deficits to record surpluses in the 1990s — and that when this rule was abandoned, we returned to record deficits that doubled the national debt,” Obama said, flanked at the White House by supportive Democratic lawmakers.

    “Entitlement increases and tax cuts need to be paid for,” he said. “They’re not free, and borrowing to finance them is not a sustainable long-term policy.”

    Republican leaders, critical of the Obama-championed $787 billion stimulus package and other deficit spending, called the president disingenuous.

    “It’s as if the administration and these Democrat leaders are living in an alternate universe,” said House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia. “The quickest way to save money is to stop recklessly spending it.”

    The pay-as-you-go rules would not apply to discretionary spending — the portion that Congress decides how to spend each year — which accounts for almost 40 percent of the budget, said Peter Orszag, the administration’s budget director.

    Obama’s call for binding legislation comes as a reward to moderate-to-conservative “Blue Dog” Democrats who are big believers in pay-as-you go. Their votes were crucial to passing a congressional budget blueprint that generally follows Obama’s budget.

    The House and Senate already have their own PAYGO rules, but have routinely found ways around them. For example, a bill to effectively double GI Bill education benefits was enacted last year because of a loophole in congressional rules.

    Obama’s “PAYGO” plan would also require future tax cuts to be financed by tax increases elsewhere in the code, though exceptions are made for extending President George W. Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, as well as other tax cuts that are scheduled to expire.

    The federal deficit is on pace to explode past $1.8 trillion this year, more than four times last year’s all-time high.

    The deficit figures flow from the deep recession, the Wall Street bailout and the cost of the economic stimulus bill. Obama has defended the massive stimulus plan as essential to helping pump some life back in the economy, one that is still shedding jobs but showing more signs of life in recent weeks.

    “The fact is, there are few who aren’t distressed by deficits,” Obama said. He said restoring a pay-as-you-go method under law would force lawmakers to deal not just with the politics and crises of the day, but also remain fixed on the nation’s long-term financial health.

  85. SHV Says:

    June 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

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    I’ve never been an advocate for the death penalty, but in this case I could see myself making an exception.

  86. JanH Says:

    June 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009

    Dismay Over Obama’s ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Turnabout
    By Mark Thompson

    The endorsement of “Don’t ask, don’t tell” by the Administration marks the latest rightward tack by Obama.
    &&&&&&&&&

    If the product known as “Obama” were subjected to truth-in-advertising laws, the lawsuits would be flying off the shelves.

    Oct. 2008:
    Announcer: “Obama. Truthier. Transparenter. World Peace. Happy Families. Good Jobs. We can’t afford four more years of failed Bush policies. This Tuesday, vote for Barack Obama….”I’m Barack Obama, and I approve this message”.

    Months later….
    TV Reporter: “In yet another startling reversal of his campaign positions, President Obama initiated World War III, because he said, ‘At this point, it’s the only way we can creat, or save, jobs’.”

  87. jbstonesfan Says:

    I am now convinced more than ever, that it was a mistake for her to accept this position. I know I originally thought it was her only option, but she would have been better served (actually our country and world would be better served) if she had remained an obstacle to Obama and his plans.

    I agree. I also am becoming more aware of how hated the Clintons are by many Dimocrats. I think McCaulifffe is terrific….he is one of my favorite political figures. …straightforward, down to earth….I truly believe that we need more people like him in politics. If he is defeated by pro Obama anti Hillary sentiment then what hope is there really that Hillary has a chance.

  88. Basil: it was his April 28 webcast in Washington D.C. He is worried to death about where we are heading, and thinks it is nearly too late. He thought he could have some influence with the Admininstation, but it has not materialized. It assume you can find it at LaRouchepac. Harley is the moderator. I think very highly of Harley. If you pick up his magazine, it can be found in an article entitled The Other Shoe Will Now Drop which appears at page 2 et seq. Read it and decide for yourself. He is an avid student of history, and tends to shoehorn present events into history, which is always an imperfect science. But as an economist he has been fairly accurate. There is a more urgent and perhaps even desperate tone to his comments than I have noticed before.

  89. That is the conundrum of Obama isn’t it. One theory is that he is the evil Marxist, Manchurian Candidate, who is out to destroy American. The other extreme is that he is a total stooge for what ever political movement that particular person fears the most
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    I do not think he has a coherent philosophy of his own. I think he is a cypher for certain interests. But I think the demographic groups that constitute his political base want big government ergo that is what he will try to achieve. The added advantage of big government is it puts whoever runs that government in charge of everything. In other words, his quest for absolute power will pull him to the left.

  90. wbboei:

    “Goldberg was “horrified” by Hillary’s “hardball tactics” during the campaign, but seems to like them now.

    Listening to [Hillary’s concession speech] now, though, I can’t help but tear up. I’m still glad I supported Obama, who I think is proving to be a better, defter president than Clinton would have been.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Your e-mail to Michelle Goldberg was a wonderful dressing down of Goldberg’s sudden ephipany praising Hillary’s work for women’s rights. Thanks for personally elucidating my thoughts on her comments with devastating panache.

    My personal email to Goldberg

    caption reads “too little-too late”

    Michelle– three things in response to your article on Hillarys new crusade.

    1. First, if you have not seen the Christopher Hedges article on Mr Obama you need to. Hedges was the middle east bureau chief for the New York Times. He is a principled progressive who voted for Obama and has since discovered that he is not at all what he believed him to be. Ralls and progressives have come to the same conclusion.

    Here is the link:

    truthdig.com/report/item/20090503_buying_brand_obama/

    2. Second, I campaigned for Hillary in four states against him and people like you. I was in Texas, Pennsylania, Indiana, and West Virginia all of which we won. I saw the discrimination that you apparently were oblivious to at the time. Following the campaign I wrote a lengthy piece entitled “The Real Story of the 2008 primary”. One of the subjects was big media bias in general, and sexism in particular. I prepared a pro forma civil complaint on the subject set forth below. You may find enlightening.

    3. Third, media moguls like Steve Capus at MSNBC and talking heads like Evan Thomas at Newsweek who seek to deny there was a pattern of practice of sexism directed against Hillary are a little like Holocaust deniers. The evidence is right there in front of them, but for political reasons, business reasons, or their own complicity they flatly deny it

  91. his quest for absolute power will pull him to the left
    **********
    A quest for absolute power, whether begun with movement to the right or left, seems to bring the “questee’s” subject population to a similar end point.

  92. Maine professor nominated for Army post

    June 9, 2009

    President Obama announced this evening that he plans to nominate a former University of Maine system chancellor to be undersecretary of the Army.

    Joseph Westphal, now a political science professor at the University of Maine, was on the Obama transition team for national security, was assistant secretary of the Army for civil works from 1998 to 2001, and acting secretary of the Army for June and July 2001.

    Obama also said he plans to nominate Robert V. Abbey as director of the Bureau of Land Management; Sam D. Hamilton as director of the Office of Fish and Wildlife Service; Deborah A. P. Hersman as chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board; Richard A. Lidinsky, Jr., as commissioner on the Federal Maritime Commission; and Harry Hoglander, to stay on the National Mediation Board.

    “I’m grateful for the service of these individuals at this critical time for our nation. Their collective backgrounds and distinct experiences will help keep our nation safe and put our country on a path to prosperity. I look forward to working with them in the months and years ahead,” the president said in a statement.

    The White House-provided mini-biographies of the nominees are below:

    Joseph Westphal, Nominee for Under Secretary of the Army, Department of Defense:

    Joseph Westphal is University System Professor of Political Science at the University of Maine where he also served as the Chancellor of the University of Maine System. Mr. Westphal recently served as a member of the Obama-Biden Transition for the National Security Team working on Defense matters. He was Assistant Secretary of the Army for Civil Works from 1998 to 2001 and Acting Secretary of the Army for June and July 2001. His other federal government experience included Senior Policy Advisor for Water Resources at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Staff Director of the Congressional Sunbelt Caucus in the United States Congress. His other academic appointments have included Associate Professor and Head of the Political Science Department at Oklahoma State University. While on leave from the University of Maine, Mr. Westphal worked in the Department of the Interior on issues related to water development and as a budget analyst and assistant to the Chairman of the U.S. House Committee on the Budget. He has also served as Adjunct Professor of Government at Georgetown University and Professor and Provost at The New School University in New York. Mr. Westphal received a B.A. from Adelphi University, M.A. from Oklahoma State University and Ph.D. from the University of Missouri-Columbia.

    Robert V. Abbey, Nominee for Director, Bureau of Land Management, Department of the Interior:

    Bob Abbey is currently partner at Abbey – Stubbs – Ford, LLC where he is a private consultant specializing in western land and resource strategies. Prior to this experience Bob was the Nevada State Director for the DOI’s Bureau of Land Management. There Bob was responsible for managing natural resources and mineral development activities on about 48 million acres of public land in Nevada. He managed a staff of 700+ employees in 9 offices and he was responsible for the $51 million budget. Bob has also been the Associate State Director/Acting State Director of Colorado for the Interior’s BLM. Bob has also been the District Manager in his home state of Mississippi for the Bureau of Land Management. Bob was responsible for the strategic planning and directing operations for 85% of the producing federal land-based oil & gas leases within the eastern United States under the BLM. Bob’s extensive expertise in the areas of land use planning and environmental laws, legislation development, strategic planning and resource development make him an excellent candidate for the position of Director of Bureau of Land Management.

    Sam D. Hamilton, Nominee for Director, Office of Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of the Interior:

    Sam D. Hamilton has served the United States Fish & Wildlife Service from 1979 until now and has been the Regional Director of the US Fish & Wildlife Service in Atlanta, Georgia from 1997 until now. There he was the senior operating executive for the Southeast Region of the US with full strategic planning and management responsibility for a $484 million budget. Sam provided leadership to a 1500 person work-force operating in 10 states and the Caribbean. He provided FWS leadership and oversight to the Interior’s Everglades’ restoration work which has been the largest ecosystem restoration project in the country. He has represented the Secretary of the Interior on coastal Louisiana wetlands restoration work and has been responsible for oversight and management of 350+ federally listed threatened and endangered species. Sam has also served as Assistant Regional Director of the Ecological Service in Atlanta, Georgia and FWS Texas State Administrator in Austin, Texas. Sam has the proven experience in developing innovative conservation initiatives, resolving complex and controversial environmental issues and delivering significant wildlife conservation across the U.S. He is highly dedicated to leading change to more effectively accomplish the Fish & Wildlife Service’s mission. Sam’s long-stretching career with the US Fish & Wildlife Service as well as his vast & varied experience make him an excellent candidate for Director, US Fish & Wildlife Service.

    Deborah A. P. Hersman, Nominee for Chairman, National Transportation Safety Board:

    As a Board Member of the NTSB since June, 2004, Ms. Hersman has served as the Board’s representative at 15 accidents including the fatal crash of a regional jet in Lexington, KY, the collision of a container ship into the San Francisco Bay Bridge, and the crash of a private airplane into a New York City building. Ms. Hersman has chaired a number of public events hosted by the NTSB, including a two-day forum on motorcycle safety, a public hearing on motor coach safety, and public hearings on two significant aviation accidents. Ms. Hersman holds a motorcycle endorsement as well as a commercial drivers license with passenger, school bus, and air brake endorsements. She is a certified Child Passenger Safety Technician. Before joining the NTSB, Ms. Hersman was a Senior Professional Staff Member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation from 1999 to 2004 where she was responsible for the legislative agenda and policy initiatives affecting surface transportation issues, including economic and safety regulation of railroads, trucks, buses, pipelines, and hazardous materials transportation. Prior to that appointment, she served as Staff Director and Senior Legislative Aide to Congressman Bob Wise of West Virginia from 1992 to 1999. Ms. Hersman received undergraduate degrees from Virginia Tech and a Master of Science in Conflict Analysis and Resolution from George Mason University in Virginia.

    Richard A. Lidinsky, Jr., Nominee for Commissioner, Federal Maritime Commission:

    Richard A. Lidinsky, Jr., has worked in the international maritime trade industry for 35 years from positions in both business and government. Beginning with his service as a Congressional aide on the U.S. House of Representatives Merchant Marine and Fisheries Committee, he began his professional legal career in the Federal Maritime Commission’s Office of General Counsel as Legislative Counsel from 1973-75. In 1975 he was appointed by the Maryland Port Administration to be Director of Tariffs and National Port Affairs, as well as counsel. While representing the Port of Baltimore on both regional and national port organizations, he was a key architect of the port protection sections in the Panama Canal Treaty Implementing Legislation and the Shipping Act of 1984. He also helped negotiate on behalf of the port one of the first US-China trade agreements. In 1985 he was recruited by Sea Containers Ltd, the global maritime manufacturer and leasing company, to establish their Washington, DC, office. As Vice President for Governmental Affairs until 2006, he established their contracts with the Pentagon to supply military equipment from Sea Containers’ factory in Charleston, SC. He also served as a member of the Sealift Transportation Committee of the National Defense Transportation Association; as Board Director and on the Defense, Transportation and Port Security Committee of the British-American Business Association; and as a High-Level Expert to the U.S. NATO Delegation on the Ports and Intermodal Transportation Committee from 1995-2005. He is currently working as an attorney and international trade consultant in private practice. He received his JD from the University of Maryland in 1972 and his BA from the School of Government and Public Administration of American University in 1968. From 1968 to 1975, he served in the U.S. Coast Guard on active and reserve duty.

    Harry Hoglander, Re-nominated to serve as Board Member, National Mediation Board:

    Harry R. Hoglander has been a Member of the National Mediation Board since August 6, 2002, and has twice served as its Chairman. He was first confirmed by the United States Senate on August 1, 2002, and reconfirmed for a second term on December 8, 2006. Prior to joining the Board, Hoglander served as a Legislative Specialist in the office of Congressman John Tierney of Massachusetts, where he covered issues related to transportation, labor, defense, and veterans affairs. Hoglander has extensive background in aviation – he spent 28 years flying for Trans World Airline (TWA), where he was a Captain. Additionally, while with TWA, he was elected Master Chairman of TWA’s Master Executive Council and elected Executive Vice-President of the Air Line Pilots Association. After leaving TWA, Hoglander was named Aviation Labor Representative to the United States Bi-Lateral Negotiating Team by then-Secretary of State James Baker. Hoglander was a pilot in the United States Air Force and retired with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He graduated from Suffolk University Law School and is a member of the Florida Bar.

    boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/06/maine_professor.html

  93. Admin: Please embed-

    Jon Voight speaking out against Obama. Dubbing him a “False Prophet” at last night’s Republican Fundraiser! Leaving Republicans, Gingrich and O’Connell – aghast!

    youtube.com/watch?v=XiXC8rnaiQs&feature=player_embedded

    h… and w…. theweek.com/article/index/97472/Jon_Voight_vs_President_Obama

  94. The Supreme Court has just announced it will allow the Chrysler sale to go forward. No details available yet.

  95. I read on another board that they couldn’t get a quorum to hear the case (no confirmation if this is true). Can someone out there explain the ramifications of all this? I’ve been reading on other boards that this could set a precedent in regards to the constitution, contract law, and whether anyone will invest in bonds in the future.

    Others seem to think the whole issue is no big deal and that the supreme court may review the case at some point and that the bond holders from Indiana might get some compensation in the end.

  96. Can someone out there explain the ramifications of all this?
    **********
    From what little that I have read, the SC lifted the temporary stay and will allow the sale to proceed. This decision doesn’t prevent further legal actions only that the people asking for the stay didn’t meet the burden necessary to block the sale. It sounds as if all Justices were consulted and there was no dissent.
    (snip)
    Insisting that it was denying a postponement “in this case alone,” the two-page order said the challengers had not met their burden of showing that a delay was justified. The order allows a closing of the deal by no later than next Monday, because it lifts a temporary stay that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had issued on Monday; she did so, apparently, only to give the Court time to ponder the issue.

    Presumably, the closing could occur before next Monday, since that was the “end date” only.

    The Court said nothing about the biggest issue lurking in the case: the legality of using federal “bailout” money to pay for the rescue of an auto manufacturer. In fact, the order stressed that “a denial of a stay is not a decision on the merits of the underlying legal issues.”

    Justice Ginsburg opted to share the postponement question with her colleagues, and the Court appeared to be unanimous in letting the sale occur with a massive infusion of money from the U.S. government, plus a contribution from the Canadian government, to keep Chrysler from what they said was imminent collapse.

    ww.scotusblog.com/wp/court-clears-chrysler-sale/

  97. Not usually a fan of Pat Buchanan but this new column caught my eye..

    townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2009/06/09/the_anti-reagan?page=full&comments=true

    “Despite his boldness, Barack Obama seems as fated to fail as were Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter. And for the same reason: a belief in his own righteousness and moral superiority, and a belief that his ideals and his persona count mightily in the modern world.”

  98. McAuliffe lost, but the guy who won, Deeds, isn’t the choice of Bots, either. Looks like a wash to me.

  99. AmericanGal 8:53

    I thought the SuperDudes authority was created in part to prevent what had happen with the Jimmy Carter Primary Selection. It might have been a hint when Jimmy Carter endorsed O that maybe they should have selected or looked for an alternative, like the one who won the Primary popular vote. The Superdudes, who should have more political knowledge than the average Joe, have proven that they have no better clue than anyone else. Amazing.

  100. # JanH Says:
    June 9th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Thank you for posting that.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You’re entirely welcome, Jan. I was surprised Voight went as far as he did with a subtle threat concerning Obama’s protection of Israel.

  101. # jbstonesfan Says:
    June 9th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    I am sure Hillary and Bill are disappointed.

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    I’m sure they are too! Certainly an indication The Obama Cartel is working overtime evenings and weekends to forestall the Clintons from gaining a serious foothold
    in the Democratic Party ever again.

  102. That was my concern….Bill’s influence in the party is all but gone..perhaps that is why he and Hillary are so focused on making this SOS thing work. I never thought a punk like Obama could marginalize a man who has given his entire adult life to making the world a better place.

  103. jbstonesfan

    If you call his influence with the crooks that put O into office, I am thankful. Bill has his inflences, but he does not hang out with the crooks from Chicago, and others who hope to get something for sticking their noses up Os butt, at the expense of the American People.

    I don’t consider him marginalized.

  104. I agree NewMexicoFan, but it hurts to see Obama take over what was at one time OUR party. The democratic party, much as Joe Lieberman said, left “us”, not vice versa. I find myself in a political nowhere man’s land, as I could never be aligned with the Gingrich’s/Limbaughs, yet, find the far left/Obama forces equally appalling. Looking back, President Clinton was a mainstream democrat leaning towards the center. Who do we have left to cheer for anymore? Truthfully, as much as I love Hillary, doesn’t her success ride on Obama’s success? It’s just a depressing as hell place to be , and there appears no light at the end of the tunnel (at least for probably eight years).

  105. Obama Instructs Clinton to Prepare a Report on Israel’s Military Strength

    By Spencer Ackerman
    6/9/09

    After meeting with Defense Secretary Robert Gates at the White House today, President Obama issued a directive giving Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton certain responsibilities under “section 201 of Public Law 110-429,” in “coordination” with Gates. Meaning what, exactly? Here’s the relevant text:

    The President shall carry out an empirical and qualitative assessment on an ongoing basis of the extent to which Israel possesses a qualitative military edge over military threats to Israel. The assessment required under this subsection shall be sufficiently robust so as to facilitate comparability of data over concurrent years.

    That’s now Clinton’s job, with Gates’ assistance, and it’s got to be complete by June 30. The subsequent parts of Section 201 (that don’t apply to Clinton) make it clear that the assessment is done in order to ensure that U.S. arms sales to Middle Eastern countries don’t “adversely affect Israel’s qualitative military edge over military threats to Israel.” It’ll be interesting to see how Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu interprets anything that even hints at an American reappraisal of Israel’s strategic position during this somewhat rocky moment in his relationship with the Obama administration.

    washingtonindependent.com/46270/obama-instructs-clinton-to-prepare-a-report-on-israels-military-strength

  106. Clinton orders review of State Department security after arrests

    Mon June 8, 2009
    By Elise Labott

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Monday she has ordered a review of security and vetting procedures that let a State Department employee suspected of spying for Cuba slip through the cracks.

    Ex-State Department employee Kendall Myers and his wife were arrested last week, suspected of spying for Cuba.

    Clinton told reporters she directed State Department security personnel to review “every possible security program we have, every form of vetting and clearance that we employ in the State Department, to determine what more we can do to guard against this kind of outrageous violation of the oaths that people take to serve our country here in the State Department.”

    Walter Kendall Myers, a 72-year-old former State Department employee, and his 71-year-old wife, Gwendolyn, were arrested Thursday and charged with illegally aiding the government of Cuba for almost 30 years, the Justice Department said. The Myerses were charged with conspiracy to act as illegal agents of the Cuban government, providing classified information to that government and wire fraud, according to court documents unsealed in Washington on Friday.

    “We are concerned by the announcement of the arrests and the charges against these two individuals, one of whom, as you know, was a former State Department employee, along with his wife,” Clinton said.

    The couple appeared briefly Friday in Washington before a federal magistrate, who ordered them held without bond pending a detention hearing Wednesday. Judge John Facciolo agreed with prosecutors that the couple might try to flee the country if not held.

    The State Department isn’t clear at this stage on what information the Myerses may have passed to their Cuban handlers, according to a senior State Department official, who told CNN such information would come out of a full damage assessment. “We were confident” at the time of Kendall Myers’ retirement, the official said, that he had been passing information to Cuban intelligence. Diplomatic security officials “let it go for a while” to see what information might emerge.

    Myers was a senior European analyst in the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research and “had come up in the ranks,” the official said.

    Court documents said Myers retired from the State Department on October 31, 2007, and had viewed more than 200 classified reports on Cuba in his final months on the job, even though he was, at the time, an analyst working on European issues.

    Promising full State Department cooperation with the ongoing investigation and eventual prosecution, Clinton said it was equally important “that we look forward to make sure that we try to prevent something like this from ever happening again.”

    A law enforcement official told CNN the couple’s primary motive was not money. The couple were “true believers” in the Cuban system, the official said. Although they were paid for “expenses” by the Cuban government, most of their funds, including a $500,000 brokerage account, may be largely from Myers’ government salary, the official said.
    However, the government intends to move to seize money derived from his employment on the basis the funds were obtained as a fraud, arguing he was really working against the U.S. government.

    The indictment, made public Friday, says Kendall Myers, allegedly known to Cuban intelligence as Agent 202, and Gwendolyn Myers, allegedly known as Agent 123 and Agent E-634, engaged in activities “which spanned nearly three decades.”

    Conviction on the wire fraud charge would carry a sentence of up to 20 years, illegally acting as an agent of a foreign government would carry a sentence of up to 10 years, and the conspiracy charge would carry a sentence of up to five years.

    cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/08/clinton.security.review/

  107. Interesting site and read. They trash MO and there is a lot of truth in what they say and I like that.

    thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2009/06/tv-state-propaganda.html

  108. jbstonesfan

    Remember the regression theory. You have swings toward the extremes, but it usually gravitates toward the center.

    I am with you, I have no party anymore. I thought the Dems were it, and I have been kind of smug about it for most of my adult life. However, I discovered first hand that they think they can get away with crimes that they accuse the Republicans of.

    I am an independent, and will never take a party side again. To me it breeds power hungry crooks.

  109. There is no doubt in my mind that -Dont Ask Dont Tell- would have been overturned by executive
    order had Hillary been elected and not robbed as she was. Hillary is doing more to promote equality
    as secretary of state then any nationally elected politician.

    I stand by my decision as a gay man to choose McCain as my second choice. I havent gotten
    any more out of Obama then I would have McCain which is NOTHING. At least one would have
    been open to hearing opposing viewpoints.

  110. pm317, enjoyed the blog you mentioned.

    I’m so sick of “God…THE ONE” and his vile wife and all the media fawning that I’m ready to read anything about them that isn’t so sicky sweet.

  111. Moran was the guy in the Va. race endorsed by most of the Bot party hacks, and he lost. And McAuliffe hired a number of Obama staffers to work on his campaign.

    I just don’t think the Va. voters really cared about endorsements, in the end.

  112. # jbstonesfan Says:
    June 9th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    That was my concern….Bill’s influence in the party is all but gone..perhaps that is why he and Hillary are so focused on making this SOS thing work. I never thought a punk like Obama could marginalize a man who has given his entire adult life to making the world a better place.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Obama is keeping the masses occupied with prospects of 600,000 Jobs, Health Care and new Wars in A-stan as cover for political maneuvers he is doing covertly hoping no one notices what has been done until it’s too late. Meanwhile the Economy is faltering, falling further and further past the point of no return. His “keep America busy” formula also includes the monthly smears on Bill, when breaking news reveals a vacuum, the WH henchmen fill it with old smears on Bill.
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    JanH says: from 10:11pm

    ” Obama Instructs Clinton to Prepare a Report on Israel’s Military Strength”

    By Spencer Ackerman
    6/9/09

    After meeting with Defense Secretary Robert Gates at the White House today, President Obama issued a directive giving Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton certain responsibilities under “section 201 of Public Law 110-429,” in “coordination” with Gates. Meaning what, exactly? Here’s the relevant text:

    The President shall carry out an empirical and qualitative assessment on an ongoing basis of the extent to which Israel possesses a qualitative military edge over military threats to Israel. The assessment required under this subsection shall be sufficiently robust so as to facilitate comparability of data over concurrent years.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Dangerous water here… He’s setting her up for a fall. She had better beware and smell the coffee. The thing is he may be looking for definative information about Israel’s defenses to filter over to his Muslim (relatives) family anxiously awaiting first hand intelligence information to better prepare their own attack schemes.

  113. Agreed…the timing of this is incredibly suspect as Bibi prepares his speech….It’s almost like you better say the right things or else…….

  114. I noticed Hillary looked haggard and worn in the interview with Stephanopolous. Did anyone else? Her tired look must have been because of this surprise task from out of left field, Obama foisted on her.

    pm317’s link has a tidbit about Hillary during the Williams WH interview the other night that is worth reading. The Warning signs are there…

    from pm317’s link: (btw, thanks for posting it)

    thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2009/06/tv-state-propaganda.html

  115. 1. We may be reading this thing wrong. We may be looking at this entire development too much from a damsel in distress perspective. Or from a campaign perspective. It may more useful to look at it from a governing philosophy and organizationally. Just indulge me for a minute.

    2. I do not think we should pay too much attention to how Hillary looks at the moment. Personally, I thought she looked ravishing during the campaign but she travelled with beauticians and hair dressers. Now she does not look that way because her time is limited. I have a friend who says she can tell that when Hillary feels bad she has a flat hair day. Another one told me she was not wearing lipstick today and that must mean something. What it means to me is she is extremely busy as Chief Diplomat for this country, and alot of things are on the verge of falling apart due to a lack of presidential leadership. Most of it is not being reported because Big Media is censoring it.

    3. When Hillary was interviewed by Stephanopolis she alluded to the fact that she would be assigned additional responsibilities. You may think it was foisted upon her to set her up. I think the opposite is true. She seemed proud of it when she was on the show. I think she wanted this assignment and she has a large organization behind her. This is in keeping with her concept of smart power. It impinged on Gates turf, so Obama conferred with him prior to the assignment. Information is power. Also, we need it to measure the relative threat to Iran. In any organization, the work gets assigned to the best people. If this assignment was being forced on her against her will I am sure she would refuse it.

    4. I agree entirely with what Buchanan said, namely that Obama will fail. The odds for success were long to begin with, but they have grown much longer as a result of his benighted economic policies. They will soon catch up with him. He has an attention deficit problem. He has too many irons in the fire. His forte is style not substance, and it will take time for people to understand the difference. But when the conditions SHV spoke about materialize they will have to.

    The bottom line for me is try the benign explanation first. My real concern for Hillary is that she not burn the candle from both ends. We need her healthy.

    4. The result today in Virginia is a tactical wash but a strategic victory. Obamas man did not get the job. And Terry is free to work for Hillary if she decides to run in 2012.

  116. We waited for someone — anyone — to call out NBC and Brian Williams’ non-stop efforts to demonize Hillary Clinton. We waited in vain. On the second night of the broadcast, the Secretary of State was shown in the Oval Office. She was speaking casually and looking around. The desk had a report in a red cover with a notation across the front that it was for the president’s eyes only. NBC deliberately edited the footage to make it appear as if Hillary was desperate to read the report. They also included Williams in a sad voice noting that she had thought, a year ago, she might be president. The segment immediately following was about Vice President Joe Biden. NBC forgot to note that Biden also wanted to be president. In fact, he’s tried to be president several times now. But Hillary was sad and pathetic, according to the NBC special.

    What NBC News WHORES failed to air was their request to Hillary, as she breezed through the Oval Office, if she could come over to the desk and give them a few minutes of footage to help them out, TO HELP THEM OUT? Hillary agreed to do that and didn’t think anything of it. She had no idea that a news team was going to get ‘creative’ or that they were setting her up to make her look bad. She stood where she was asked to stand by NBC and gave them the footage she thought they needed. She was instructed to stand in front of that desk and make small talk and when you see her looking off she’s looking over at the film crew for the sign from them that they’ve gotten enough footage.
    —————————-
    Why would NBC do this? Because they know their man Obama is likely to fail. When he does Hillary will be the logical choice to be President. And if that happens they figure their goose is cooked.

    They know the pattern and practice of sexism they perpetrated and do not want to face the music. So they try to diminish her. But this little ploy is like alot of things: it only works once.

    Here is a sampling of the crap MSNBC put out on Hillary courtesy of Chris Matthews–lest we forget. It is why it would be generally unwise for him or Williams or Olberman to walk down the wrong dark alley.

    • I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for.“ “She Devil“ • “Nurse Ratched“ • “Madame Defarge“ • “Witchy“ • “Anti-male“ • “[U]ppity“ • “She’s going to tell us what to do.“ • “Her scolding manner in terms of her public speaking“ • “[L]et’s talk about the troops …Will they take the orders?“ • [D]oesn’t she know she looks like a fraud?“• Look at those eyes. Look at the cold eyes that she’s giving him. Look at that cold look.“ • [L]ike a strip-teaser saying she’s flattered by the all the attention“• On Sen. Clinton’s endorsers: “castratos in the eunuch chorus“ • “Let me tell you how short Hillary’s leash is.“ • “Is she a convincing mom?“ • On Sen. Clinton’s laugh: “What do you make of the cackle?“ • [S]he’s clapping, like she’s Chinese. I know the Chinese clap at each other, but what is she clapping at? I mean, it’s like one of these wind-up things.“ • “[S]he was giving a campaign barn-burner speech, which is harder to give for a woman; it can grate on some men when they listen to it — fingernails on a blackboard, perhaps.“ • “Is there, out there in the country or out in the Atlantic Ocean, some gigantic monster — big, green, horny-headed, all kinds of horns coming out, big, aggressive monster of anti-Hillaryism that hasn’t shown itself: it’s based upon gender …“ • “[B]eing surrounded by women, does that make a case for commander in chief — or does it make a case against it?“• “Is she hemmed in by the fact that she’s a woman and can’t admit a mistake, or else the Republicans will say, ‘Oh, that’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind,’ or ‘another fickle woman’? Is her gender a problem in her ability to change her mind?“ • “[T]he reason she’s a U.S. senator, the reason she’s a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around.“ • “She may have gotten The Des Moines Register’s endorsement the other day, thanks to her husband’s lobbying with its female editors

    .

  117. One other thing about this assignment of evaluation of military power. Hillarys concept of smart power involves 1) diplomacy, ii) economic aid, and iii) defense. The responsibility to conduct this evaluation rests with the Office of President, and Bambi cannot be expected to do it himself. Therefore, it is something he would naturally delegate. Therefore, there were only two choices–the state department or the defense department. Both are involved operationally.

    In other words, this new responsibility was not something he invented out of whole cloth, and he assigned it to one of the two players had overlapping responsibilities within that area. And, Hillary will delegate it to an individual or group that she trusts in her own organization.

  118. I just thought of another reason. The Defense Department has a course of dealing with Israel and Britain which is essential to all countries, and if this responsibility was delegated to Defense, it could adversely affect that course of dealing. On the other hand, if it is done by the State Department then the existing course of dealing between the two defense deparments would be inslulated from a pothential conflict of interest, and could thus continue without interruption.

  119. NewMexicoFan

    Obama and Pelosi managed to corrupt enough of the Superdelegates to keep them from doing their proper job. Maybe they will do better next time.

  120. I do think Hillary looks tired, but most Presidents do when they are being hit on all sides with problems. You notice Obama looks fine as if he is doing NO work. My guess Hillary is the real President, otherwise, why was she in the middle east with the idiot. They sent her so he would not screw up.

  121. Apparently [according to Larouche], the culprits are the Queen of England and Summers

    ==================

    Maybe they’re going to pocket the money and elope to the Cayman Islands?

  122. wbboei, I always read LaRouche, but that article your talking about really threw me off. He stated he was the only one that could save the economy, so I immediately decided that he has went off the deep end. There are people that can save it other than Larouch, so I blew him off.

  123. I noticed Newt and Sarah on TV last night. I thought Gee, could the GOP thinking about matching these two??? I also saw Rudy and Sarah at a baseball game. Gee, what could the GOP be thinking??
    I voted for Sarah, so it wouldn’t bother me to vote for her again, but I just can’t stand Newt for what he did to BC.

  124. Admin,

    Excerpts from NY Post pieces on the Albany coup by Jacob Gershman.
    I can only hope the same happens to BO.
    Jacon Gershman
    “They took it as an article of faith that New York was trending blue and that Republicans were headed for extinction. They didn’t think they had to offer a cohesive alternative agenda; instead — individually and chaotically — they pursued a hodgepodge of pet causes.
    On taxes, spending, criminal justice and government reform, Senate Democrats were 32 squawking voices, hopelessly off-key. They came off as amateurs — especially compared to the rigid, top-down order of the Assembly. The backdrop of the reeling economy only reinforced an impression that they weren’t cut out for prime time.
    *********************************************************
    More broadly, Smith’s attempt to freeze out the GOP was a misreading of the political winds. New York’s voting population is overwhelmingly Democrat, but a governing coalition must reflect the state as a whole — not just Manhattan.
    The same problem has afflicted Gov. Paterson, who understood the need to strike a more moderate balance but nonetheless caved to the Democrat-controlled Legislature. Nationally, Democrats confront a similar public resistance, as they push a fiscal and health-care agenda out-of-step with the national sensibility.
    Barring another reversal, it appears that Republicans under a bipartisan coalition have been handed a second chance. It’s an opportunity to redefine the Republican Party in New York. Maybe that means passing a gay-marriage bill — which would embarrass Democrats — or joining with Paterson in passing a serious cap on state spending.

  125. wbboei,
    good compilation of anti-HRC comments. I will NEVER forget!

    OT, If NYS is any indication, WHEN (not if) the country steps back from the precipice and throws BO and crew off the cliff there’s going to be a huge backlash against the dems and the extreme measures taken to cram their policies down the country’s throat.

    A couple of weeks ago i despaired of sanity ever returning to the US. Now I’m seeing glimmers of hope that wemay survive this ‘coup’ afterall.

    IMHO..

  126. ROTFLMFAO!
    The Onion does it again!!!!!
    Michelle Obama’s Arms Meet With Sri Lankan Refugees
    www dot .theonion dot com/content/news/michelle_obamas_arms_meet_with_sri?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
    VAVUNIYA, SRI LANKA—
    In a rare diplomatic trip overseas, first lady Michelle Obama’s arms visited the largest refugee camp in Sri Lanka this week, bringing hope and comfort to countless victims of the nation’s 26-year civil war.
    The first lady’s limbs bring hope to the displaced masses.
    ………Obama’s limbs were welcomed by throngs of native Sri Lankans eager to catch a glimpse of their mesmerizing firmness.
    The arms, which showed no noticeable flab or unsightly sagging at any point during the trip, received a warm handshake from Sri Lankan human rights minister Mahinda Samarasinghe upon their arrival.
    “I would like first to say how proud we are to have Mrs. Obama’s arms in our beloved country,” said Samarasinghe, who referred to the limbs as both “beautiful” and the “epitome of class.” “Hopefully their presence here, with their well-defined biceps and tank-top ready shoulders, will bring strength to the 265,000 citizens who have lost their homes.”
    “Madam First Lady’s arms, welcome to Sri Lanka,” Samarasinghe continued. “You are even more impressive in person.”
    Following the ceremony, the arms were given a tour of the refugee camp at Manik Farm, a 1,400-acre plot of land once used for cultivating crops and now home to more than 200,000 displaced residents. While the arms toured the site, thousands of sick and starving refugees shouted, in Tamil, “Help us, Beautiful Arms,” and “Beautiful Arms, we love you.”

    The arms greet Sri Lankan leaders without even a hint of a jiggle.
    The refugees, still coming to terms with the scars of nearly three decades of civil unrest, later told reporters that they were awed by the dignity and grace of the limbs, most notably because they lacked the so-called “bat-wing fat” that plagues many middle-aged arms.
    “What is so impressive is that the arms are muscular, but not too muscular,” 17-year-old Nuwan Rasamay, who lost both of his parents in the war, told reporters. “And once the arms see what is happening here, how the government is punishing those who are innocent, and see the chaos, they will surely help bring peace to the region. I know this, for they are incredible arms.”

  127. OMG!

    Even I, the mathematically challenged one, can understand this!
    ADMIN! Please embed!

    Under BO we’ve lost 1,200,000 more jobs than predicted.

    The penny man speaks! How Miserably Has the Stimulus Failed?
    youtube dot com/watch?v=CJu0DgpiK8c&eurl

  128. I think Mitchell being sent to the Middle East is just more double talk on bambi’s part. It’s a clean up and bandaid solution all in one.

    In other words, while trying to appease everyone, bambi continues to talk out of each side of his mouth, promising one thing to one side and then having to back step to stop the fall out. This moron is juggling so many lies that his handlers have no choice but to follow behind and pick up the pieces.

  129. Mitchell told natural growth won’t stop

    Jun. 9, 2009
    Herb Keinon , THE JERUSALEM POST

    While outwardly US envoy George Mitchell tried to downplay tensions between Washington and Jerusalem, the settlement construction issue continued to be a central source of contention when Mitchell met with Israel’s leaders on Tuesday. Mitchell, during a day of meetings that included four hours with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, was told that Israel would not bring all settlement construction to a complete halt, even though this continues to be the US’s stated position.

    One senior official said that there appeared to be some “convergence” between the sides, and they were moving toward a definition of the issues. Following the evening meeting with Mitchell, which included a two-hour one-on-one conversation, Netanyahu’s office issued a statement that the meeting was “friendly and positive and encompassed the whole range of issues on the agenda.”

    Netanyahu, according to the statement, said that “Israel is working to promote peace and security with our Palestinian neighbors and the wider Arab world.”

    In front of the cameras, Mitchell took pains to stress the importance of the US-Israeli relationship, and Washington’s commitment to Israel’s security. Mitchell, after a meeting earlier in the day with President Shimon Peres, said he wanted to state again “clearly and emphatically, beyond any doubt, that the United States’ commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable.”

    He stressed that the current disagreements “are not disagreements among adversaries. The United States and Israel are and will remain close allies and friends. My meetings today with the president and other Israeli officials are discussions among friends who share a common set of objectives: Peace, security and prosperity to all the people of this region.”

    Mitchell said the objective of the Obama administration was a “comprehensive peace in the Middle East,” including “a Palestinian state side by side in peace and security with the Jewish State of Israel. The president and the secretary of state have made our policy clear. Israelis and Palestinians have a responsibility to meet their obligations under the road map. It’s not just their responsibility. We believe it’s in their security interest as well.”

    Giving voice to the Obama administration’s focus on the regional element of the diplomatic process, Mitchell said the US was engaged in “serious discussions” with Israel, the Palestinians and regional partners in the hopes of creating the conditions “for the prompt resumption and early conclusion of negotiations.” In an apparent indication of the regional context to the diplomatic process Obama wants to launch, the State Department announced that Mitchell – who will hold meetings with the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah on Wednesday – was scheduled to go to Lebanon on Thursday and to Damascus on Friday and Saturday. This will be Mitchell’s first visit to Syria since he was appointed envoy in January, though two senior administration officials – Jeffrey Feltman and Dan Shapiro – have visited Damascus twice.

    One Israeli official said that while the thrust of the Shapiro and Feltman visits had focused on bilateral Syrian-US ties, Mitchell – in light of his position – was expected to concentrate on the Israeli-Syrian track. In advance of Mitchell’s trip, Syrian President Bashar Assad has expressed renewed interest in restarting preliminary contacts with Israel through Turkey. “President Bashar Assad told his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul once again when he visited Syria (last month) of Damascus’s firm and continuing support for Ankara’s mediation efforts and its confidence in their impartiality,” Syria’s ambassador to Turkey, Nidal Kabalan, told AFP. Assad also told Gul he had sent a similar message to European envoys, Kabalan said, adding: “It is now up to them [the Israelis].”

    Though many expect the US to seize the results and push more aggressively for peace between Israel and Syria, with the Mitchell trip a sign of that effort, Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya’alon argued Tuesday that conditions were not ripe for a deal with Syria. He said that previous negotiations between Jerusalem and Damascus took place in the 1990s under a different leader – current Syrian President Bashar Assad’s father Hafez – and were conducted with the understanding that a peace with Israel would mean Syria broke its relations with Iran and stopped supporting Hizbullah. “His son’s behaving in a very different way,” he told the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, describing Israeli officials as suspicious of his overtures.

    Regarding Mitchell’s trip to Lebanon, Israeli officials said this had more to do with Lebanon’s recent elections, and a US desire to send a message of support to Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora, than any efforts to start an as-yet nonexistent Lebanese-Israeli track.
    The officials also said it would be unlikely for Israel to make any concessions toward the Lebanese regarding the Shaba Farms area or the village of Ghajar until it became clear whether or not Hizbullah would be part of the upcoming government. If Hizbullah were in the government, any gestures regarding the Shaba Farms or Ghajar would be unlikely, the sources noted.

    One issue that has been discussed extensively in Jerusalem is the possibility of pulling out of the northern part of Ghajar, which straddles the Israeli-Lebanese border.

    Regarding the Palestinian issue, Peres, whom Mitchell met in the morning, said there were four important points that needed to be emphasized on the road to peace: “a two-state solution based on the road map, the clear maintenance of Israel’s security, independence for the Palestinians, and implementation of a comprehensive regional peace between Israel and the Arab countries of the Middle East.” Diplomatic sources, who said it was likely that Peres was foreshadowing Netanyahu’s address on Sunday at Bar-Ilan University, said that while it was likely that Netanyahu would nod toward the notion of a Palestinian state in his speech, he was unlikely to say “two states for two peoples,” because this was a slogan that had become too closely identified with opposition leader Tzipi Livni.

    Likewise, the sources said Netanyahu was expected to stay clear of the term “natural growth” in relation to construction in the settlements in his speech, because this had become a term now associated with conflict with the US.

    Peres, however, did use the term after meeting Mitchell, saying, “There is agreement in Israel regarding the evacuation of illegal outposts and not to build new settlements. However, the issue of natural growth in the settlement blocs must continue to be discussed intensively in order to reach agreement. In my experience, focusing on a single issue ill serves the wider diplomatic process, which is supposed to set the agenda for Israel and its neighbors.”

    In addition to meeting Netanyahu and Peres, Mitchell also met during the day with Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, where – in addition to discussing the settlements – the meetings also dealt with Iran and the elections in Lebanon.

    In a related development, EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana is scheduled to arrive in Jerusalem on Wednesday on the first leg of a five-day regional tour that will also take him to the PA, Lebanon and Egypt.

    Meanwhile, in what was intended to be a major policy address at the Council for Peace and Security in Ramat Gan, Barak praised Obama as “assertive, self-confident and hugely popular” and said Israel should cooperate with him in the pursuit of an all-inclusive regional accord. Barak called Obama’s efforts to bring an an end to the Arab-Israeli conflict “an exceptional opportunity,” and said it would be right for Israel to adequately consider its path and properly navigate inside this series of challenges and opportunities.” “It would not be right for Israel to get in the way of American efforts to form a Palestinian state according to the vision of two states for two peoples,” Barak said. “There is no guarantee that the attempt to establish two states would succeed, because it is not dependent only on Israel. But our government must fulfill the obligations of previous ones. Preventing negotiations on a Palestinian state could lead to there being one state for two peoples.”

    Barak stressed that Israel and the US were allowed to disagree, but he expressed hope that if Israel worked correctly, it could become fully coordinated with Obama’s government on diplomatic issues.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1244371054880&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  130. I just heard parts of an interview with the Arkansas soldier-killer.

    He said what he did didn’t constitute murder because American soldiers have killed innocent civilians in Iraq.

    He also said his religion doesn’t believe in turning the other cheek.

    And yet no one except FOX is covering this.

  131. The Taliban is very close to overtaking parts of Pakistan and with that would come control of the country’s nukes.

    Between that and BO giving Iran a pass on nuclear development I would be terrified if I was an Israeli.

    And let’s not forget Korea.

  132. Good Morning.

    Remember Fox has more viewers than the other stations, and I think people are going to continue to move over for the very reason they show more news, and unfortantely, look more fair and balanced than the others combined.

    I see a bomb has gone off in Iraq and killed a dozen civilians.

  133. Basil: wouldnt it be interesting to have some credible watch dog group keep track of the stories FOX is providing its audience which the General Electric Media Empire is censoring from their audience. This would show the world how badly GE is abusing its media role, and cause a further attritiion in its audience base. Ditto with CNN. Theys are the same kind of organization, infested with corruption from top to bottom. In each case, the patient is dead and rigor mortis has set in, but the lips are still moving.

  134. Meanshelle the fashionista has outdone herself. Go to Drudge and see for yourself. OMG, its horrible!! Jackie O she is definitely NOT!!

  135. confloyd,

    I SAW those pics! WTF is that sparkyu dangly hip scarf thingie?

    wbboei,

    Has the media ALWAYS been this way and i was just too dumb to notice?

  136. Maybe that hip scarf is her Moslem hair covering that has slipped down to her widest part! LOL!!
    She has really outdone herself, she looks like a freaking clown. Her designers should be fired! She looks as ridiculous as her husband is! The two are a perfect match!

  137. Has the media ALWAYS been this way and i was just too dumb to notice?
    ——————————————-
    No. Here is an article by one of their own condemning what they have become. It was based on what he saw during the election. At that point there was reason to hope that when the game of governing began, they would revert to some standard of objectivity and professionalism. Obviously that has not happened. The reason is because they know if he fails they will be destroyed–which they will be.

    THE MEDIA IS PLAYING A VERY DANGEROUS GAME
    By Michael Malone

    The traditional media are playing a very, very dangerous game — with their readers, with the Constitution and with their own fates.
    The sheer bias in the print and television coverage of this election campaign is not just bewildering, but appalling. And over the last few months I’ve found myself slowly moving from shaking my head at the obvious one-sided reporting, to actually shouting at the screen of my television and my laptop computer.

    But worst of all, for the last couple weeks, I’ve begun — for the first time in my adult life — to be embarrassed to admit what I do for a living. A few days ago, when asked by a new acquaintance what I did for a living, I replied that I was “a writer,” because I couldn’t bring myself to admit to a stranger that I’m a journalist.

    You need to understand how painful this is for me. I am one of those people who truly bleeds ink when I’m cut. I am a fourth-generation newspaperman. As family history tells it, my great-grandfather was a newspaper editor in Abilene, Kan., during the last of the cowboy days, then moved to Oregon to help start the Oregon Journal (now the Oregonian). [snip]

    Now, of course, there’s always been bias in the media. Human beings are biased, so the work they do, including reporting, is inevitably colored. Hell, I can show you 10 different ways to color variations of the word “said” — muttered, shouted, announced, reluctantly replied, responded, etc. — to influence the way a reader will apprehend exactly the same quote. We all learn that in Reporting 101, or at least in the first few weeks working in a newsroom.

    But what we are also supposed to learn during that same apprenticeship is to recognize the dangerous power of that technique, and many others, and develop built-in alarms against them. [snip]
    I’d spent my entire professional career scrupulously pounding out endless dreary footnotes and double-checking sources to make sure that I never got accused of lying or stealing someone else’s work — not out of any native honesty, but out of fear: I’d always been told to fake or steal a story was a firing offense & indeed, it meant being blackballed out of the profession.

    And yet, few of those worthies ever seemed to get fired for their crimes — and if they did they were soon rehired into even more prestigious jobs. It seemed as if there were two sets of rules: one for us workaday journalists toiling out in the sticks, and another for folks who’d managed, through talent or deceit, to make it to the national level.

    Meanwhile, I watched with disbelief as the nation’s leading newspapers, many of whom I’d written for in the past, slowly let opinion pieces creep into the news section, and from there onto the front page. Personal opinions and comments that, had they appeared in my stories in 1979, would have gotten my butt kicked by the nearest copy editor, were now standard operating procedure at the New York Times, the Washington Post, and soon after in almost every small town paper in the U.S. [snip]

    But nothing, nothing I’ve seen has matched the media bias on display in the current presidential campaign.

    Republicans are justifiably foaming at the mouth over the sheer one-sidedness of the press coverage of the two candidates and their running mates. But in the last few days, even Democrats, who have been gloating over the pass — no, make that shameless support — they’ve gotten from the press, are starting to get uncomfortable as they realize that no one wins in the long run when we don’t have a free and fair press. [snip]

    No, what I object to (and I think most other Americans do as well) is the lack of equivalent hardball coverage of the other side — or worse, actively serving as attack dogs for the presidential ticket of Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Joe Biden, D-Del.

    If the current polls are correct, we are about to elect as president of the United States a man who is essentially a cipher, who has left almost no paper trail, seems to have few friends (that at least will talk) and has entire years missing out of his biography.
    That isn’t Sen. Obama’s fault: His job is to put his best face forward. No, it is the traditional media’s fault, for it alone (unlike the alternative media) has had the resources to cover this story properly, and has systematically refused to do so.

    Why, for example to quote the lawyer for Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., haven’t we seen an interview with Sen. Obama’s grad school drug dealer — when we know all about Mrs. McCain’s addiction? Are Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko that hard to interview? All those phony voter registrations that hard to scrutinize? And why are Sen. Biden’s endless gaffes almost always covered up, or rationalized, by the traditional media?

    The absolute nadir (though I hate to commit to that, as we still have two weeks before the election) came with Joe the Plumber.
    Middle America, even when they didn’t agree with Joe, looked on in horror as the press took apart the private life of an average person who had the temerity to ask a tough question of a presidential candidate. So much for the standing up for the little man. So much for speaking truth to power. So much for comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable, and all of those other catchphrases we journalists used to believe we lived by. [snip]
    So why weren’t those legions of hungry reporters set loose on the Obama campaign? Who are the real villains in this story of mainstream media betrayal?

    About the writer Michael S. Malone is one of the nation’s best-known technology writers. He has covered Silicon Valley and high-tech for more than 25 years, beginning with the San Jose Mercury News as the nation’s first daily high-tech reporter. His articles and editorials have appeared in such publications as The Wall Street Journal, the Economist and Fortune, and for two years he was a columnist for The New York Times. He was editor of Forbes ASAP, the world’s largest-circulation business-tech magazine, at the height of the dot-com boom. Malone is the author or co-author of a dozen books, notably the best-selling “Virtual Corporation.” Malone has also hosted three public television interview series, and most recently co-produced the celebrated PBS miniseries on social entrepreneurs, “The New Heroes.” He has been the ABCNews.com “Silicon Insider” columnist since 2000.
    http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6099188

  138. She looks like she is wearing an apron. Was she going to cook in the queen’s kitchen? After all she is a self-proclaimed 50s mom-in-chief and cooking was one of the many duties of a mom (in the 50s, division of labor and such). I love to cook, BTW. So my comment is not about disparaging cooking per se.

  139. I guess North Korea is shooting a missile off and it may be armed with a nuclear device at us anytime. Who knows, the stupid news media is blocking it along with the two moslem terrorist who were on board that French plane that went down last week. It mustn’t look like Obama is losing control of the World. So lets not tell the people the truth.

  140. A good friend of mine is native American and was married to a black man. She knows alot of black women. Awhile back, they expressed great distaste for the way bambis wife has allowed herself to be reshaped into the reincarnation of June Cleaver. They thought she was a phoney. They were right. She cannot deliver a speech. She is sort of gangly and akward in a group. A post feminist? No. Just a phoney.

  141. I guess North Korea is shooting a missile off and it may be armed with a nuclear device at us anytime. Who knows, the stupid news media is blocking it along with the two moslem terrorist who were on board that French plane that went down last week. It mustn’t look like Obama is losing control of the World. So lets not tell the people the truth.
    —————————————————————-
    When I was canvassing in Pennsylvania, a lady came to the door and gave me a short speech on how bambi is the anti-christ. I took no position on the matter at the time, but told her I would have to think about that one. She told me you do that.

    Since then Bambi has cheated his way into the Presidency. And since taking office we have witnessed more war, plague and famine on a biblical scale– if you look at the world as a whole. The economy is in shambles, jobs are disappearing at an increasing rate if the 787,000 last month is any indication. The money supply has doubled, the deficit has
    quadrupled and the national debt is ballooning. And, Big Media worships him in an almost Satanic Ritual. In sum, Bambi fiddles, Rome burns.

    How can I say in good conscience that lady was wrong?

  142. wbboei, it is not so much what/who she is, I can accept her as she is. But what I strongly object to is what they are doing with her, she letting them do it, and then of course the media spin after spin with make overs after make overs. It is the hypocrisy and lack of something bigger than herself that I find objectionable. Laura Bush was also very low key and I have similar criticism for her that she didn’t use the unique opportunity she was given, but nobody made her into what she was not or what she was incapable of.

  143. If Fox is the best we have going then I’m not that impressed. O’Reilly and Hannity and a few others are slime. Yes there are some good representatives/news cycles but that is all.

  144. I guess North Korea is shooting a missile off and it may be armed with a nuclear device at us anytime. Who knows, the stupid news media is blocking it along with the two moslem terrorist who were on board that French plane that went down last week. It mustn’t look like Obama is losing control of the World. So lets not tell the people the truth.
    ————————————————————
    Bambi needs to show some initiative rather than hiding behind the U.N. He can take Air Force Zero over there and meet the madman on his own turf–pursuant to one of his many campaign promises. When tell Kim Ill mano a mano–hey little fuck, I challenge you to a game of half court basketball to decide the fate of the world. We will lower the hoops to make it fair for you. Brian Williams is on his knees as usual thanking me for this magic moment and is calling it the sequel to the Thrilla in Manila. We will soon see which of us is the bigger dic-tator.

  145. wbboei, it is not so much what/who she is, I can accept her as she is. But what I strongly object to is what they are doing with her, she letting them do it, and then of course the media spin after spin with make overs after make overs. It is the hypocrisy and lack of something bigger than herself that I find objectionable. Laura Bush was also very low key and I have similar criticism for her that she didn’t use the unique opportunity she was given, but nobody made her into what she was not or what she was incapable of.
    ————————————-
    I think the black women are saying essentially the same thing.

  146. A friend of mine was telling me yesterday that Kim has got a satellite in space armed with a nuclear warhead aimed at Hawaii and Alaska. Naturally, she is concernced that the wild and crazy guy might–might decide to act on his worst instinct, and is equally appalled that Bambi lacks the courage to do something about it. I am sure the military is preparing for that contingency. I just hope Bambi does not experience the same decision making paralysis he did in the pirated episode. The stakes here are much bigger. He needs to give the okay and let the military take over from there. What a time to have the Chicago thugs holding the key to the city, because of the abominable stupidity of bots.

  147. The only explanation I can think of is their underdeveloped frontal lobes, for lack of which they cannot exercise judgment and manage stress. As Brian Williams might put it: “something of a”..basketcase.

  148. Jun 10 2009
    by Marc Ambinder

    The Six Top Conservatives Obama Listens To:

    Regardless of whether the President’s bipartisan outreach is producing legislative results, there is a handful of conservatives and Republicans that the president and his White House team respect. By respect, I mean, quite simply, the degree to which the White House responds to their worries and needs and believes that the time spent responding is useful and necessary. It is unclear whether the quality of this outreach differs from the respect accorded to Sen. Ben Nelson by the Bush White House.

    The Mainers, Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe — They don’t ask for much, but they are among the first senators consulted by the White House on any major decision. Why? Their votes matter. In fact, so far as the White House is concerned, on major issues where a 60-vote supermajority is needed for cloture, they’re the only Republicans who matter. Their every concern is heard by the White House.

    Dick Lugar — He gets as much attention from the White House as Snowe and Collins. He is close to Obama, having partnered with him early in the president’s aborted Senate career to combat nuclear trafficking overseas, and Obama regularly consults with the Indiana Republican on matters ranging from defense appropriations to Afghanistan to Russia policy and loose nukes.

    John McCain — I’ve speculated that McCain’s post-campaign frustration has limited his influence with the Obama White House. I’m wrong. McCain’s imprimatur on major national security policy matters to the general officer corps is quite powerful and is a sign to the consensus foreign policy establishment (the post-Bush consensus) that Obama is acting respectfully. On Gitmo, torture, Afghanistan, and procurement reform, McCain’s voice gets into Obama’s head — and that’s the way Obama wants it.

    David Brooks — It’s an open secret in Washington that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel telephones the conservative New York Times columnist more than just about anyone else except for his wife. Brooks’s columns have been quite critical of Obama as of late, which testifies to Brooks’s independence and to Emanuel’s sticktoitiveness. Their friendship predates the administration by many years, but the White House understands that Brooks’s voice, even when not embraced by conservatives, influences how centrists and many intellectually honest liberal Democrats look at the world.

    Harvard Law Professor Jack Goldsmith — A former associate attorney general in the Bush White House, his writings on terrorism and the law are often cited by the president’s advisers in conversation, and the president himself has been known to cite his admiration for the way in which Goldsmith engages the problems from all angles — political, legal, philosophical. Don’t be surprised if Goldsmith ends up on a WH commission or task force at some point.

    Others: Sen. Chuck Grassley, on budget and health care matters, as well as government operations; Sen. Orrin Hatch on health care; Sen. Mel Martinez on immigration; Govs. Schwarzenegger and Crist on policy matters, the environment and the stimulus; George Will; the National Association of Manufacturers (much more bipartisan recently) on labor and taxes; Sen. Lindsey Graham on detainee issues; Sen. Judd Gregg (still); what of Charles Krauthammer, who dined with Obama pre-inaugural? He’s read…but not influential.

    politics.theatlantic.com/2009/06/the_five_conservatives_obama_listens_to.php

  149. How can anyone call Collins and Crist conservatives? They are big spending liberals, who wear the Republican label–and that is where it starts, stops and ends.

    Hint: conservatives believe in limited government, responsible fiscal policies, national sovereignty. Not the kind of shit these Bambi worshippers espouse.

    How can Ambinder pretend to be credible and put this misleading crap into the blogosphere? If this is the best he can do to assess the current political environment then he too is a fraud.

  150. Seriously, who in the world listens to McCain. He has nothing of substance to say. He failed the test as a leader. A left wing friend of mine who is having difficulty seeing bambi as he really is, told me the other night that when Spector deserted the Republican party, a number of people came forward and begged him to take McCain with him. Persona non grata I guess. Personally, I see not strength or conviction in him, he did not support Palin, and ran a pathetic campaign. He is not a credible spokesman for the conservative cause I am sorry to say because I did vote for him in the general election. But what choice did we have–really?

  151. For the life of me I can’t see why they keep hammering on Hillary. In my view they should be bowing at her feet since she is willing to put up with idiot to try and keep America afloat!
    They had some rethug rappers on Fox & Friends and of coarse no song is ever complete without sticking it Hillary. I am SICK of it!!

  152. I did some cursory research on this Mark Ambiner just to see what he is about. He received his bachelor of arts degree in 2001, which suggests to me that he is in his early 30s. He worked at abc before and now he is at cbs as a political commentator. It does not seem to me that he is a deep thinker, but someone who is damned good at parroting the party line, and working within the limited and limiting dialogue which is de rigeur with the georgetown social set–like our old friend Tapper. Good source of propanda, if that is what you are looking for. But if you want the truth, which includes the 90% they refuse to report, it is always best to look elsewhere. You probably knew who he was because of that blog which some annonomous wikkopedia writer (most likely him, because he does appear to be self serving) called influential.

  153. For the life of me I can’t see why they keep hammering on Hillary.
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    Because they are sick.

  154. Well, liberal or not, if this is his think tank then God help Americans
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    You are right. They are not what you might call a brain trust.

  155. Rev. Wright says he doesn’t regret severed relationship with president

    By DAVID SQUIRES | 247-4639
    June 10, 2009

    HAMPTON – – The Rev. Jeremiah Wright says he does not feel any regrets over his severed relationship with President Barack Obama, a former member of the Chicago church in which Wright was the longtime pastor.

    Wright also said that he had not spoken to his former church member since Obama became president, implying that the White House won’t allow Obama to talk to him. He did not indicate whether he had tried to reach Obama.

    “Regret for what… that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I’ve been preaching for 20 years?

    “Regret for preaching like I’ve been preaching for 50 years? Absolutely none,” Wright said.

    Wright said that when he went to the polls, he did not hold any grudge against Obama.

    “Of course I voted for him; he’s my son. I’m proud of him,” Wright said. “I’ve got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven’t stopped loving any of them.

    “He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I’ve got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him.”

    Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: “Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …

    “They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. … I said from the beginning: He’s a politician; I’m a pastor. He’s got to do what politicians do.”

    Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.

    “Ethic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don’t want Barack talking like that because that’s anti-Israel,” Wright said.

    Wright is in Hampton this week attending Hampton University’s 95th Annual Ministers Conference. The son of a pastor, Wright said he has attended the conference since he was a child – though he was not spotted at the conference in 2008 during the heat of the debate over comments he made that many in the media branded racially divisive.

    Perhaps without the Wright controversy, the issue of race might not have become a part of the 2008 Presidential campaign.

    After the initial rounds of the controversy, Obama made his famous speech in Philadelphia on race relations, in which he said he could no more disown Wright than his own grandmother.

    But the issue heated up after more comments by Wright at the National Press Club and from other controversial speakers at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama eventually distanced himself from the church.

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  156. Oh, I so want Wright to keep on talking to the media. I so want banbi to continue to be linked to his 2nd father.

  157. Iranian candidate’s wife compared to Hillary

    Wed, 06/10/2009

    Iranians head to the polls Friday to select one of four men vying to be president. Many of the Islamic Republic’s people are fed up with current President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has presided over a crumbling economy and damaged the country’s international standing. If Ahmadinejad loses, the man most likely to take his place is reformist candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.

    Mousavi lacks charisma, but he has somebody on the campaign trail to make up for it: his wife, Zahra Rahnavard, a 62-year-old scholar, artist, mother of three, and former university chancellor who has written at least 15 books and was once an advisor to former President Mohammad Khatami.

    Women in Iran are going wild for Rahnavard, who has appeared in all her husband’s campaign trips, a first in Iranian politics. A recent Los Angeles Times article compares her to Secretary Clinton, who herself has lots of experience being married to a presidential candidate:

    Some in the Iranian and Western news media have likened Rahnavard to Michelle Obama, but she more closely resembles Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former first lady and New York senator whom many considered a driving force behind her husband’s political career and presidency. And Rahnavard is pro-women. At a recent rally in Tehran, the capital, she told an electrified crowd, “Never have women had so much self-awareness. Women have always been just under the skin of history. Today, we assert ourselves.”

    In a country where first ladies have been almost invisible, Rahnavard could end up being Iran’s “first” first lady

    hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/06/10/iranian_candidates_wife_compared_to_hillary

  158. Morton Klein at the Jerusalem Post wrote an article two days ago critical of Hillary. In it he decried her troubling transformation from pro Israel to not. Here is my response to the man:
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    Morton: I support Bibi’s position and that is why I am writing this letter to you. Your article does that position a grave disservice.

    When you claim that Hillary is the source of the current US policy toward Israel, you mis-diagose the problem. She is not the problem. President Obama is the problem. As Secretary of State she is executing HIS policy.

    When you put the blame on her, you come across to many Americans as a moral coward. It is not truthful and it undermines the position you claim to support. Are you afraid of Mr. Obama and if so why?

  159. wbboei,

    I saw that article by Klein and dismissed it for all of its misstatements. Your response to him is right on.

  160. wbboei Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 10:39 am
    When I was canvassing in Pennsylvania, a lady came to the door and gave me a short speech on how bambi is the anti-christ.
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    What part of PA were you canvassing? I live in NJ, work in Philly, so I was involved with canvassing in NE Philly, since it was identified by the Clinton campaign as a battleground area for the PA primaries.

    And I was at Hillary’s Mayfair Diner appearance shortly before 4/22/2008, and was just a few feet away from her, and Chelsea signed my t-shirt. Oh yeah, and I gave her my “Bring Back Socks to the White House” button.

  161. When you put the blame on her, you come across to many Americans as a moral coward. It is not truthful and it undermines the position you claim to support. Are you afraid of Mr. Obama and if so why?
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    Excellent point….The obots love misdirection. The DADT issue is SCOTUS refusing to take the case rather than pointing out that the CIC is a homophobe.

  162. Res ipsa loquitur:

    “Rev. Wright says he doesn’t regret severed relationship with president”
    (snip)
    “He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I’ve got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him.”

    Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: “Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …
    (snip)

    ww.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story

  163. What part of PA were you canvassing? I live in NJ, work in Philly, so I was involved with canvassing in NE Philly, since it was identified by the Clinton campaign as a battleground area for the PA primaries.
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    rgb: I was in another part of the state. I worked in Manaca which is not far from Pittsburg. And from there we went to Kitani and opened a campaign office at the democratic party headquarters. Kitani is one of those beautiful towns on the Allegany River that time passed by. In the 1950s it was a going concern. Today it is a shadow of its former self. A living testament to the evils of outsourcing to China.

    I am glad you had the opportunity to meet Hillary where you were. I did not have that opportunity in Pennsylvania where I was. I saw Bill in Pennsylvania and prior to that in Texas. I saw neither of them in Indiana. And I saw her in the flower garden Charlestown spoke briefly with her there and then that night after our 41 point victory. Like the song says: Almost Heaven West Virginia.

  164. TM has finally gone completely over the edge…i don’t even bother to check out her ramblings anymore but thought I might find common sense with so called liberal women against Letterman’s unnecessary and sexist attacks on Palin and her daughter, but no….

    TM actually defends Letterman and thinks he is a ratings genius vs the ‘conservative’ defense of Palin and her daughter UNBELIEVABLE…what a sellout she is…total sellout against women…I confess I did not think she was that shallow…that stupid…

    she needs to read what the BIPARTISAN

  165. Res ipsa loquitur: yes, the thing speaks for itself. Recidivism by a theological scholar and called man of the cloth. Or so we were told by big media. Next he will tell us that Black Jesus made him do it. Anyone who could listen to that crap for twenty years, and bring their childern to listen to it has a screw loose.

  166. TM has finally gone over the edge…I no longer bother to check out her site but was curious to see if so called ‘liberal’ women would defend Palin against the unnecessary and sexist attack Letterman made on Palin and her daughter…but noooo…

    rather than defend a female sitting governor and her 14 year old daughter, TM thinks Letterman is a ratings genius and stands behind him vs the ‘conservative’ defense for Palin…and she ‘uses’ Hillary as her scapegoat

    I confess that I never thought TM was that shallow and stupid…and such a hack and sellout…but she is…this is just the kind of BS that is driving fair minded women from the hypocritcal dim party…let’s see if the ‘other one’ chimes in with more gratuitous nonsense from so called ‘smart’ women

    she needs to read what the BIPARTSIAN group a new agenda has to say about SEXISM towards ALL WOMEN…

    thenewagenda.net/blog/

  167. They’ve had a shooting at the Holocaust Museum, the shooter belongs to a white supremacy group. Obama and all his crap has awakened all the nuts.

  168. One example of how the funds stolen from our retirement are being allocated. If we taxed dimocrats for flatulation we could balance the budget and pay down the national debt in no time.
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    But, after our conversation, I heard something I am eager to run past
    you for your input.

    I heard that congress is considering putting a flatulence tax on
    cattle of up to $175 a head! This is not limited to cattle but includes
    other stock animals. Can you imagine? A gas tax? Can that actually
    pass? We must do something.

    Not only are they continuing to try to destroy the farmers, but it
    will lead us back to encouraging the importing of beef! Is this
    an effort to convert everyone to vegetarians? Not only will we be
    jailed if we question global warming, but we will be forced to eat
    like rabbits.

    What’s next? I don’t even want to consider it. Every once in a while
    I have to go outside and look at my flag to be sure I still live in
    the USA.

    While we are after the flatulent animals, what about senior citizens?
    Will they tax nursing homes for the same reason?

    I would like to propose that we tax the greatest gas emitters of all,
    the politicians who think of these things. That alone would be enough
    to eliminate the biggest contributors to air pollution.

    What do you think of this? Will it get far? How do we stop it?

  169. The shooter at the holocaust museum is a white supremacist. Bo Bo is getting all the jew haters stirred up and this is a by-product.

  170. Some in the Iranian and Western news media have likened Rahnavard to Michelle Obama
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    Big media again. By their perverse logic two men are alike if neither one of them is named John.

  171. DailyKos: “Today in Congress” by David Waldman points out this meeting:

    Wed., 6/10, 10:30 a.m. House Education & Labor Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions Subcommittee: Examining the Single Payer Health Care Option
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    As we recall, the recent Obama gab-fest round table on health care deliberately excluded single-payer proponents, and one doctor (from NJ as I recall) was even jailed for protesting outside that meeting.

  172. As we recall, the recent Obama gab-fest round table on health care deliberately excluded single-payer proponents, and one doctor (from NJ as I recall) was even jailed for protesting outside that meeting.
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    They do not know WHAT they are doing. If Obama people line you up against a wall to shoot you for an offense you did not commit, and ask if you have any last request, be sure to ask for a cigarette because in the time it takes you to smoke it, they will probably change their minds–not because of new evidence, due process or anything like that, but because their decision making process is so convoluted that the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing, and the head of it all, of course, is a sociopath.

  173. Re Letterman, as of half an hour ago this number was still working, did accept a message, though it also gave another number where it tried to direct Letterman calls. Sorry I didn’t get the other number down.

    Call CBS and let them know your disgust. Call CBS: 212-975-4321

  174. basil9 Says:
    Although I’m sorry terry didn’t win I read that BO’s candidate didn’t win, either. .

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    I heard that Terry, an outsider, did well against BO’s candidate, an insider. But another insider beat them both.

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