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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JanH</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama in Bush Clothing

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, May 22, 2009 

&quot;We were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.&quot;   -- Unnamed and dismayed human rights advocate, on legalizing indefinite detention of alleged terrorists. (the New York Times, May 21) 

...If hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue, then the flip-flops on previously denounced anti-terror measures are the homage that Barack Obama pays to George Bush. Within 125 days, Obama has adopted with only minor modifications huge swaths of the entire, allegedly lawless Bush program. 

The latest flip-flop is the restoration of military tribunals. During the 2008 campaign, Obama denounced them repeatedly, calling them an &quot;enormous failure.&quot; Obama suspended them upon his swearing-in. Now they&#039;re back. Of course, Obama will never admit in word what he&#039;s doing in deed. As in his rhetorically brilliant national-security speech yesterday claiming to have undone Bush&#039;s moral travesties, the military commissions flip-flop is accompanied by the usual Obama three-step: (a) excoriate the Bush policy, (b) ostentatiously unveil cosmetic changes, (c) adopt the Bush policy. 

Cosmetic changes such as Obama&#039;s declaration that &quot;we will give detainees greater latitude in selecting their own counsel.&quot; Laughable. High-toned liberal law firms are climbing over each other for the frisson of representing these miscreants in court. 

What about disallowing evidence received under coercive interrogation? Hardly new, notes former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy. Under the existing rules, military judges have that authority, and they exercised it under the Bush administration to dismiss charges against al-Qaeda operative Mohammed al-Qahtani on precisely those grounds. 

On Guantanamo, it&#039;s Obama&#039;s fellow Democrats who have suddenly discovered the wisdom of Bush&#039;s choice. In open rebellion against Obama&#039;s pledge to shut it down, the Senate voted 90 to 6 to reject appropriating a single penny until the president explains where he intends to put the inmates. Sen. James Webb, the de facto Democratic authority on national defense, wants the closing to be put on hold. And on Tuesday, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, no Gitmo inmates on American soil -- not even in American jails. That doesn&#039;t leave a lot of places. The home countries won&#039;t take them. Europe is recalcitrant. Saint Helena needs refurbishing. Elba didn&#039;t work out too well the first time. And Devil&#039;s Island is now a tourist destination. Gitmo is starting to look good again. 

Observers of all political stripes are stunned by how much of the Bush national security agenda is being adopted by this new Democratic government. Victor Davis Hanson (National Review) offers a partial list: &quot;The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq (i.e., slowing the withdrawal), Afghanistan (i.e., the surge) -- and now Guantanamo.&quot; 

Jack Goldsmith (The New Republic) adds: rendition -- turning over terrorists seized abroad to foreign countries; state secrets -- claiming them in court to quash legal proceedings on rendition and other erstwhile barbarisms; and the denial of habeas corpus -- to detainees in Afghanistan&#039;s Bagram prison, indistinguishable logically and morally from Guantanamo. 

What does it all mean? Democratic hypocrisy and demagoguery? Sure, but in Washington, opportunism and cynicism are hardly news. 

There is something much larger at play -- an undeniable, irresistible national interest that, in the end, beyond the cheap politics, asserts itself. The urgencies and necessities of the actual post-9/11 world, as opposed to the fanciful world of the opposition politician, present a rather narrow range of acceptable alternatives. Among them: reviving the tradition of military tribunals, used historically by George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Winfield Scott, Abraham Lincoln, Arthur MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt. And inventing Guantanamo -- accessible, secure, offshore and nicely symbolic (the tradition of island exile for those outside the pale of civilization is a venerable one) -- a quite brilliant choice for the placement of terrorists, some of whom, the Bush administration immediately understood, would have to be detained without trial in a war that could be endless. 

The genius of democracy is that the rotation of power forces the opposition to come to its senses when it takes over. When the new guys, brought to power by popular will, then adopt the policies of the old guys, a national consensus is forged and a new legitimacy established. That&#039;s happening before our eyes. The Bush policies in the war on terror won&#039;t have to await vindication by historians. Obama is doing it day by day. His denials mean nothing. Look at his deeds. 

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052103680.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama in Bush Clothing</p>
<p>By Charles Krauthammer<br />
Friday, May 22, 2009 </p>
<p>&#8220;We were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.&#8221;   &#8212; Unnamed and dismayed human rights advocate, on legalizing indefinite detention of alleged terrorists. (the New York Times, May 21) </p>
<p>&#8230;If hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue, then the flip-flops on previously denounced anti-terror measures are the homage that Barack Obama pays to George Bush. Within 125 days, Obama has adopted with only minor modifications huge swaths of the entire, allegedly lawless Bush program. </p>
<p>The latest flip-flop is the restoration of military tribunals. During the 2008 campaign, Obama denounced them repeatedly, calling them an &#8220;enormous failure.&#8221; Obama suspended them upon his swearing-in. Now they&#8217;re back. Of course, Obama will never admit in word what he&#8217;s doing in deed. As in his rhetorically brilliant national-security speech yesterday claiming to have undone Bush&#8217;s moral travesties, the military commissions flip-flop is accompanied by the usual Obama three-step: (a) excoriate the Bush policy, (b) ostentatiously unveil cosmetic changes, (c) adopt the Bush policy. </p>
<p>Cosmetic changes such as Obama&#8217;s declaration that &#8220;we will give detainees greater latitude in selecting their own counsel.&#8221; Laughable. High-toned liberal law firms are climbing over each other for the frisson of representing these miscreants in court. </p>
<p>What about disallowing evidence received under coercive interrogation? Hardly new, notes former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy. Under the existing rules, military judges have that authority, and they exercised it under the Bush administration to dismiss charges against al-Qaeda operative Mohammed al-Qahtani on precisely those grounds. </p>
<p>On Guantanamo, it&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s fellow Democrats who have suddenly discovered the wisdom of Bush&#8217;s choice. In open rebellion against Obama&#8217;s pledge to shut it down, the Senate voted 90 to 6 to reject appropriating a single penny until the president explains where he intends to put the inmates. Sen. James Webb, the de facto Democratic authority on national defense, wants the closing to be put on hold. And on Tuesday, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, no Gitmo inmates on American soil &#8212; not even in American jails. That doesn&#8217;t leave a lot of places. The home countries won&#8217;t take them. Europe is recalcitrant. Saint Helena needs refurbishing. Elba didn&#8217;t work out too well the first time. And Devil&#8217;s Island is now a tourist destination. Gitmo is starting to look good again. </p>
<p>Observers of all political stripes are stunned by how much of the Bush national security agenda is being adopted by this new Democratic government. Victor Davis Hanson (National Review) offers a partial list: &#8220;The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq (i.e., slowing the withdrawal), Afghanistan (i.e., the surge) &#8212; and now Guantanamo.&#8221; </p>
<p>Jack Goldsmith (The New Republic) adds: rendition &#8212; turning over terrorists seized abroad to foreign countries; state secrets &#8212; claiming them in court to quash legal proceedings on rendition and other erstwhile barbarisms; and the denial of habeas corpus &#8212; to detainees in Afghanistan&#8217;s Bagram prison, indistinguishable logically and morally from Guantanamo. </p>
<p>What does it all mean? Democratic hypocrisy and demagoguery? Sure, but in Washington, opportunism and cynicism are hardly news. </p>
<p>There is something much larger at play &#8212; an undeniable, irresistible national interest that, in the end, beyond the cheap politics, asserts itself. The urgencies and necessities of the actual post-9/11 world, as opposed to the fanciful world of the opposition politician, present a rather narrow range of acceptable alternatives. Among them: reviving the tradition of military tribunals, used historically by George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Winfield Scott, Abraham Lincoln, Arthur MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt. And inventing Guantanamo &#8212; accessible, secure, offshore and nicely symbolic (the tradition of island exile for those outside the pale of civilization is a venerable one) &#8212; a quite brilliant choice for the placement of terrorists, some of whom, the Bush administration immediately understood, would have to be detained without trial in a war that could be endless. </p>
<p>The genius of democracy is that the rotation of power forces the opposition to come to its senses when it takes over. When the new guys, brought to power by popular will, then adopt the policies of the old guys, a national consensus is forged and a new legitimacy established. That&#8217;s happening before our eyes. The Bush policies in the war on terror won&#8217;t have to await vindication by historians. Obama is doing it day by day. His denials mean nothing. Look at his deeds. </p>
<p>washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052103680.html</p>
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		<title>By: turndownobama-com</title>
		<link>http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/05/19/the-missing-link/#comment-251160</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>h...../
emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/21/gallup-polls-public-approval-on-innocent-bystanders-but-not-torturers/</description>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The collection of billionaires in NYC
I guess they have a right to get together but can Bloomberg while holding office sit on a board which whether benevolent or not has an agenda without it being open to the public?  He took the job of mayor  and as such he is responsible to the legal residents of New York. Any and all conversations must touch upon immigration and as such all moments from the meeting should be made public!!!!</description>
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I guess they have a right to get together but can Bloomberg while holding office sit on a board which whether benevolent or not has an agenda without it being open to the public?  He took the job of mayor  and as such he is responsible to the legal residents of New York. Any and all conversations must touch upon immigration and as such all moments from the meeting should be made public!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: turndownobama-com</title>
		<link>http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/05/19/the-missing-link/#comment-251157</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-sourced story, thoughtful comments.

h..../
swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/20/pelosis-probably-right/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-sourced story, thoughtful comments.</p>
<p>h&#8230;./<br />
swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/20/pelosis-probably-right/</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/05/19/the-missing-link/#comment-251156</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Cheney beat the Crap out of the little twit. Obama began his speech wrapped in the Flag- the usual tear jerker spun by the biggest Jerk of All.

Read the lambasting dished out by Cheney here:

h...pumasunleashed.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Cheney beat the Crap out of the little twit. Obama began his speech wrapped in the Flag- the usual tear jerker spun by the biggest Jerk of All.</p>
<p>Read the lambasting dished out by Cheney here:</p>
<p>h&#8230;pumasunleashed.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>By: gonzotx</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gonzotx Says: 

May 21st, 2009 at 9:08 pm 
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Of course Bill Clinton was so successful because that is exactly what he did, he put money into the system from the bottom up thereby creating jobs and growing the economy...but then Sweet Jesse, you backed the fraud mule train....Wonder if he ever got to slice and dice the crown jewels?</description>
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<p>Of course Bill Clinton was so successful because that is exactly what he did, he put money into the system from the bottom up thereby creating jobs and growing the economy&#8230;but then Sweet Jesse, you backed the fraud mule train&#8230;.Wonder if he ever got to slice and dice the crown jewels?</p>
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		<title>By: gonzotx</title>
		<link>http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/05/19/the-missing-link/#comment-251154</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another comment I found @ BP, it relates to the above torture question and the &quot;speech&#039;s&quot;
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This dueling “terrorist speech” thing today was pretty weird…..
teh one blah blahs about whatever it is that we can’t call “terrorism” anymore…but why on earth didn’t he mention those 4 assholes that the FBI nabbed yesterday who tried to blow up a synagogue in Riverdale yesterday….what do we call them? What if they had succeeded?
And why is everyone’s knickers in such a royal twist over “waterboarding” under the Uber Nemesis George Bush, and not really mentioning OR committing to stop “rendition flights” that were okay’d by Bill Clinton where icky messy people we no longer call terrorists are tidily flown to Egypt where they undergo treatment a lot more extreme than waterboarding, but I guess it’s okay because we don’t get our hands dirty.
I have never been a fan of Bush/Cheney but I don’t care about Dem/Republican labels anymore…what I cannot bear is this screaming brand of Excr0 Hypocrisy…….standing in front of the Constitution today as he is systematically raping it…
it’s like his cafe standards BS as he is driven about in his monstrous gas guzzling pimp mobile.</description>
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<p>This dueling “terrorist speech” thing today was pretty weird…..<br />
teh one blah blahs about whatever it is that we can’t call “terrorism” anymore…but why on earth didn’t he mention those 4 assholes that the FBI nabbed yesterday who tried to blow up a synagogue in Riverdale yesterday….what do we call them? What if they had succeeded?<br />
And why is everyone’s knickers in such a royal twist over “waterboarding” under the Uber Nemesis George Bush, and not really mentioning OR committing to stop “rendition flights” that were okay’d by Bill Clinton where icky messy people we no longer call terrorists are tidily flown to Egypt where they undergo treatment a lot more extreme than waterboarding, but I guess it’s okay because we don’t get our hands dirty.<br />
I have never been a fan of Bush/Cheney but I don’t care about Dem/Republican labels anymore…what I cannot bear is this screaming brand of Excr0 Hypocrisy…….standing in front of the Constitution today as he is systematically raping it…<br />
it’s like his cafe standards BS as he is driven about in his monstrous gas guzzling pimp mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: gonzotx</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The White House announced Thursday’s speech last week shortly after news surfaced that Cheney was planning his.
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I hear Cheney wiped the floor with the fraud</description>
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<p>I hear Cheney wiped the floor with the fraud</p>
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		<title>By: gonzotx</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment i found on another blog
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Jesse Jackson has said &amp; done enough stuff to piss folks off for many generations. But sometimes (too rare for my taste) he makes sense. The other day on tv he said we won’t turn the corner as a country until the leaders understand that you build from the bottom up, not from the top down.
He said the money that has been spent on bailouts if put in comunnities across this country would have seen an instant positive effect.
He questioned any revitalization plan that doesn’t include everyday Americans. He said it’s an insult to spend taxpayers money on companies who you know beforehand are going to send that money overseas. He spoke about people being asked to make sacrifices to keep companies afloat, then are told they are without a job themselves. He says it’s an insanity based on greed &amp; arrogance.
He said Obama was selling out while at the same time asking Americans to buy in.
No one picked up the speech. He said he would cover it at PUSH’s convention at the end of June. Betcha it won’t be covered then either.</description>
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<p>Jesse Jackson has said &amp; done enough stuff to piss folks off for many generations. But sometimes (too rare for my taste) he makes sense. The other day on tv he said we won’t turn the corner as a country until the leaders understand that you build from the bottom up, not from the top down.<br />
He said the money that has been spent on bailouts if put in comunnities across this country would have seen an instant positive effect.<br />
He questioned any revitalization plan that doesn’t include everyday Americans. He said it’s an insult to spend taxpayers money on companies who you know beforehand are going to send that money overseas. He spoke about people being asked to make sacrifices to keep companies afloat, then are told they are without a job themselves. He says it’s an insanity based on greed &amp; arrogance.<br />
He said Obama was selling out while at the same time asking Americans to buy in.<br />
No one picked up the speech. He said he would cover it at PUSH’s convention at the end of June. Betcha it won’t be covered then either.</p>
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