Weak Obama, Strong Tea

Big Media and its ugly children, Big Blogs, attempt to deceive Americans every day with the narrative that Obama is “strong” and the Boston-style “Tea Parties” are weak. Try as they might to sell that corrupt narrative, we are correct in our assessment: Obama is weak, the tea is strong.

From across the sea, our initial observationsWorld Leaders And North Korea To Barack Obama: “Sucker” are confirmed: Obama is a BOob:

Mr Sarkozy is pouring cold water on President Obama’s efforts to recast American leadership on the world stage, depicting them as unoriginal, unsubstantial and overrated. Behind leaks and briefings from the Elysée Palace lies Mr Sarkozy’s irritation at the rock-star welcome that Europe gave Mr Obama on his Europan tour earlier this month.

The American President’s call “to free the world of the menace of a nuclear nightmare” was hot air, Mr Sarkozy’s diplomatic staff told him in a report. “It was rhetoric – not a speech on American security policy but an export model aimed at improving the image of the United States,” they said. Most of Mr Obama’s proposals had already been made by the Bush administration and Washington was dragging its feet on disarmament and treaties against nuclear proliferation, the leaked report said.

Obama full of hot air? Is that not what we wrote yesterday? Is Sarkozy repeating our assessment that Obama is the Third Bush Term? Yes, yes, and yes.

On the personal side, the French President is needled by the adulation for an unproven US leader whose stardom has eclipsed what he sees as his established record as a world troubleshooter. “The President is annoyed by what he sees as the naivety and the herd mentality of the media,” said a journalist who is privy to Elysée thinking.

The French President apparently agrees with our assessment of Big Media.

What really happened during Obama’s European Vacation and how did Obama confirm he is weak and useless as a representative of the American people?

Mr Sarkozy has put out a version of the proceedings at the London G20 economic summit which casts him as hero, in the classic French role of intransigent defender of principle in the face of the American steamroller. This is to counter last week’s reports of Mr Obama saving the day by persuading President Hu of China to accept Mr Sarkozy’s demands for naming tax havens.

According to the leaks, Mr Sarkozy shamed Mr Obama into intervening: “You were elected to build a new world. Tax havens are the embodiment of the old world,” he is quoted as saying. He also reprimanded Mr Obama for setting US goals for climate change that were inferior to Europe’s, according to his staff.

Again, according to the Sarkozy version, at the Nato summit in Strasbourg, Mr Obama was meekly yielding to Turkey’s refusal to endorse Anders Fogh Rasmussen as the alliance’s new Secretary-General. It took pressure from Mr Sarkozy and Chancellor Merkel of Germany to stiffen him up and change his mind, say the French.

Mr Obama’s favour for Ankara has irked but also helped Mr Sarkozy as his Union for a Popular Movement campaigns for European Parliament elections in June. Mr Sarkozy slapped down the US President on French TV after he publicly called for Turkish entry to the European Union.

Permanent refusal of Turkish membership is one of Mr Sarkozy’s policy planks and one of his most popular with voters. Mr Obama’s venture into EU affairs has enabled Mr Sarkozy to make political capital. He has shown that France can still stand up to the United States despite rejoining the Nato command last week.

It sounded like old Franco-American business as usual this morning when Bruno Le Maire, Mr Sarkozy’s Europe Minister, accused Washington of backing the northern and eastern EU members by wanting to turn the union into a mere free-trade zone. France and Germany are sticking to their vision of the “political” Europe that others do not want, he said.

Obama is too weak, unqualified and inexperienced to represent America and American interests before the world. Thank God for Hillary.

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Today is April 15, tax day. PINO Big Blogs are furious that their silly April 11 protests were a dud and a total fizzle. So PINO Big Blogs and their Big Media masters are extra angry at signs that today’s “Tea parties” will be a success and trumpet future political developments.

These jealous PINO Big Blogs and their Big Media masters are trashing the protests as some sort of Fox News organized stunt. The PINO Big Blogs did not protest when latino radio stars and business interests along with Mexico helped organize grassroots immigration policy protests in the past.

These jealous PINO Big Blogs and their Big Media masters did not protest as Big Media/Big Blogs became a joint venture with the Barack Obama campaign to gift Obama the Democratic nomination and the presidency. Quite the contrary – these boys celebrated that Obama was the “media darling”. Now Big Media/Big Blogs are upset that one Big Media outlet is drawing attention to today’s Tea parties.

Big Media and Big Blog lapdogs will whine that Fox News is providing Americans television coverage. But here is the history of the Tea Party protests:

While Fox News has celebrated the Taxpayer Tea Party rallies and MSNBC has denigrated them, the impetus of the movement – CNBC and specifically Rick Santelli, its inspiration – had been conspicuously quiet about it.

But on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” April 15, co-host Joe Kernen asked Santelli what he thought of being a “cultural phenomenon.” That was the same show Santelli famously called out President Barack Obama for the unfairness of his housing bailout proposal on Feb. 19.

“A lot of articles about these tea parties,” Kernen said. “They all have your name in them, like you caused it. Are you actually attending any or are you just sort of got the idea going initially? What do you think? I mean, you’re like a cultural phenomenon at this point.”

Santelli didn’t shy away. He called the rallies American and said he was proud of what he inspired.

“I don’t know about cultural phenomenon, but I’ll tell you what,” Santelli said. “I think that this tea party phenomenon is steeped in American culture and steeped in American notion to get involved with what’s going on with our government. I haven’t organized. I’m going to have to work to pay my taxes, so I’m not going to be able to get away today. But, I have to tell you – I’m pretty proud of this.

Are the April 15 Tea Party protests a fake grassroots movement or a genuine expression of anger which has been documented repeatedly?

He also said despite the claims from others in the media, including people at CNBC’s sister network MSNBC, calling the movement “Astroturf,” Santelli declared it a grassroots movement.

“I think from a grassroots standpoint, I’m sure some of the media out there is not going to peg it that way, but isn’t it about as American as it gets – for people to roll their strollers and make their signs and go voice their opinion about the direction of the country?” Santelli said. “Good, bad or indifferent – that’s a great thing. There’s not a lot of countries, of course, that afford their people that, that type of right. It’s a great thing.”

Protests are very American no matter what Obama and his Big Media masters say. Protests are a great thing. It’s good to see Americans are not cowed by Obama’s thugs nor intoxicated by Obama’s Chicago Hopium.

The tea at Tea Party protests are a counter to the strong narcotic of Hopium. The strong Hopium is the only thing strong about Chicago Obama.

Obama is weak. Strength is the American cup of tea.


175 thoughts on “Weak Obama, Strong Tea

  1. “The President is annoyed by what he sees as the naivety and the herd mentality of the media,” ”


    humph! Join the club!!!

  2. On April 11 the Big Blogs tried to knock out the April 15 protests with a dud protest of their own. Now,
    like George W. Bush, Obama is trying to ignore the protests:

  3. On the personal side, the French President is needled by the adulation for an unproven US leader whose stardom has eclipsed what he sees as his established record as a world troubleshooter. “The President is annoyed by what he sees as the naivety and the herd mentality of the media,” said a journalist who is privy to Elysée thinking.
    That makes 18,000,001 of us, and after today the numbers will be much larger. Laura Ingraham appeared at the tea party in Washington DC a few minutes ago. She delivered quite a statement to the interviewer. She has got talent whether you agree with all her views or not. Notice, there is an increasing tendency by conservatives to disasociate themelves from both parties. William Rusher my old hero did it a few years ago and it is catching on. Bush was the issue.

    What the democrats dont get is it is wrong to loot the public treasury to reward banking friends and finance pork. What republicans dont get is it will take money to rebuild infrastrure and make us competitive again and we cannot go on borrowing or supporting empire.

  4. MSNBC, calling the movement “Astroturf,”
    I will say one thing for them: they are consistent in their opposition to the welfare of the American People.

  5. Obama doesn’t know about it??? Doesn’t surprise me. His lobotomy kicked in a long time ago. Ever since then his only concern is padding his treasury, that of terrorists worldwide and that of the banks and Wall Street.

  6. admin Says:

    April 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    The video says:

    “The White House says that the president is unaware of the tea parties, and will hold his own event today.”


    obama: “I have no idea what tea party you are talking about, but my event will be better and funner and have more people than the tea parties, of which I know nothing about”.

    How hard do you have to try to avoid knowing something?

    And what “event” will obama be holding? Will he be protesting against himself?

    Did the WH take note of the “outpouring of support for the president’s policies” for the 4/11 goings on?

  7. Just caught the tail end of Hillary ‘s press conference on “piracy”. She looked very pretty and her eyes were sparkling. She sounded stong and competent but that is the norm, unlike TOTUS.

  8. This historical movement is here to stay and the Obowman is on the road out.Has there ever been a more devisive president” I am not in the least surprised that there evidently no blacks in the tea parties.The too are in fear of the backside of the race card that has been dealt to them and retributions that will follow if they are seen as participants in these protest parties.We have always been a very compassionate and caring country but “The Sleeping Giant ” is now awake and stands ready to take action.Remember folks our goal is “Hillary 24/7 out in front”

    By ABM90 Obowma doesn,t know it yet but he named his ultimate sucessor when he appointed her SOS.

  9. Turndown,

    From the last article…

    I am in no way trying to demean Gore’s accomplishments. I simply feel that his receiving the Nobel Peace Prize could have happened in the next few years. Irena Sendler’s death makes it that much sadder for me that she was not recognized earlier in life.

    And now we have an obama nomination for the same prize that makes absolutely no sense to me.

  10. follow-up to jbstonesfan comments…

    Clinton calls for expanded global response to piracy

    Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:06pm

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States will send an envoy to a Somali donors conference this week and seek a broader international effort to fight piracy off the Horn of Africa.

    “We may be dealing with a 17th-century crime, but we need to bring 21st century assets to bear,” Clinton told reporters at the State Department.

    “Our envoy will work with other partners to help the Somalis assist us in cracking down on pirate bases and in decreasing incentives for young Somali men to engage in piracy,” she said.

    The United States will also explore efforts to track and freeze pirate assets, she said. There has been no let-up in the seizure of ships by pirates since U.S. Navy snipers killed three Somali pirates on Sunday and freed an American ship captain who had been held hostage for five days.


  11. Gore, imo, was no friend to Hillary and certainly not Bill. I believe, obviously, in Global warming but I am not sure whether it is a cyclical thing, man made, or most likely a combination of both. Gore has made a cottage industry out of it and comes off so sanctimoniously, which is one of the reasons he lost to a putz like Bush. I thought he was an OK VP, but he certainly did not stand by the Clintons and blames them for his loss when all he has to do is look in the mirrow and ask why he couldn’t even win his home state of TN. By the way, I was one of those
    people in Palm beach County, Jewish (but not elderly) who mistakenly voted for Buchanan …the irony of it all!!!!

  12. US seeks to freeze pirate assets in four-point plan

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton unveiled Wednesday a four-point plan to fight piracy that calls for prosecution and freezing pirates’ assets.
    The United States seeks to work with the international community to “explore ways to track and freeze pirate assets,” Clinton told reporters, adding Washington was determined to make sure “states take responsibility for prosecuting and imprisoning captured pirates.

    Clinton dismissed suggestions that it would be difficult to track the ill-gotten gain of pirates operating out of Somalia, where state institutions collapsed in the last two decades. “We track and freeze and try to disrupt the assets of many stateless groups,” including Islamist terrorists, Clinton said. “We notice pirates are buying more and more sophisticated equipment… buying faster and more capable vessels,” the chief US diplomat said.

    With the outlaws “clearly using ransom money for both their personal benefit and for piracy, she added there are “ways to crack down on companies that do business with pirates.”


  13. Obama names new US diplomatic media guru

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US President Barack Obama has nominated Philip Crowley to be the new assistant secretary of state for public affairs, the media point person for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The White House announced the nomination late Tuesday and State Department officials said Wednesday they had no details yet about when he would face Senate confirmation.

    They also said it was unclear whether Crowley, who is better known by his initials P.J., would run the State Department’s public affairs mostly from behind the scenes or would also give the daily briefings on camera. State Department officials did not rule out that Ian Kelly, who has been the deputy assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasian affairs, would serve as the daily on-camera spokesman for Clinton.

    If confirmed by the Senate, Crowley would replace Sean McCormack, who was the spokesman for secretary of state Condoleezza Rice for the last four years of president George W. Bush’s term in office. Robert Wood, the deputy assistant secretary of state for public affairs, served as McCormack’s deputy in the last few months and has been the acting spokesman since Obama took office on January 20.

    Wood’s next position remains unclear.

    Crowley has been director of homeland security at the Center for American Progress, a think tank in Washington. He authored a homeland security strategy called Safe at Home, the White House said. Under the administration of president Bill Clinton, Crowley was special assistant to the president for national security affairs. He served as senior director of public affairs for the National Security Council. Before that, he was principal deputy assistant secretary of defense for public affairs.

    “In all, he served as a spokesman for the US government for 28 years, including three at the White House and 11 at the Pentagon,” the White House said. He is a retired Air Force colonel and veteran of operations Desert Storm, the US-led war that ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein’s forces from Kuwait in 1991, and Provide Comfort, which sent relief to Iraqi Kurds the same year.


  14. US, Europe mull next steps on Iran


    WASHINGTON (AP) — Top U.S. and European diplomats met Wednesday to plan a way ahead in dealing with Iran’s suspected nuclear program, just hours after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad indicated he was willing to build a new relationship with the United States. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana met for talks on Iran just hours after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he was open to finding new ways to deal with the United States. Ahmadinejad said he is preparing new proposals aimed at breaking the impasse with the West over his country’s nuclear program.

    “With respect to the latest speeches and remarks out of Iran, we welcome dialogue,” Clinton told reporters after seeing Solana, adding that Iran has not yet given any formal response to the overtures. “We’ve been saying that we are looking to have an engagement with Iran, but we haven’t seen anything that would amount to any kind of proposal at all.” She said the six nations trying to lure Iran back to the negotiating table would have more to say in the coming days. Those countries, the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and Germany, asked Solana last week to invite Iran to a new round of talks. “We will continue to work with our allies to make it clear that Iran cannot continue to pursue nuclear weapons,” Clinton said. “We will stand behind the sanctions that have already been implemented, and we will look for new ways to extend collective action (on) Iran’s nuclear program.”

    Solana said he had not yet received a response from Iran to the invitation and did not speak to Ahmadinejad’s comments. Solana also met Wednesday with Dennis Ross, the U.S. special envoy concentrating on Iran policy. Officials said Ross will travel to the Persian Gulf and some of Iran’s neighbors in the region toward the end of the month to discuss new American thinking on Iran. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the trip.

    Under former President George W. Bush, Washington had attended only one meeting with senior diplomats from Britain, China, France, Germany, Russia and Iran’s top nuclear negotiator. Bush officials said the U.S. would not participate in other talks until Iran suspended uranium enrichment activities that can produce the ingredients for a nuclear weapon. But under President Barack Obama, who is open to engagement with Iran, U.S. officials now say that condition has now been dropped. U.S. officials say they may be willing to allow Iran to continue enrichment for a period of time while negotiations are underway — although they insist that a suspension of Iran’s activity remains their ultimate goal.

    The administration is also conducting a review of Iran policy as it gauges Tehran’s responses to the U.S. decision to return to the talks, recent encounters between U.S. and Iranian diplomats and Obama’s March video address to the Iranian people. U.S. officials say they are watching Iran’s reactions closely and that positive responses are likely to lead to a next step that would ease rules regarding contacts with Iranian diplomats abroad. “We’re willing to have a direct dialogue with Iran,” State Department spokesman Robert Wood said after Ahmadinejad’s latest remarks. “If they come up with some new package with regard to their nuclear program, we’ll have to take a look and see what it is.”

    In a speech before an audience of thousands in the southeastern Iranian city of Kerman, Ahmadinejad said “circumstances have changed” for the prospects of engagement with the United States and over the nuclear issue. “The Iranian nation is a generous nation,” he said. “It may forget the past and start a new era, but any country speaking on the basis of selfishness will get the same response the Iranian nation gave to Mr. Bush.”

    The U.S. and its allies have accused Iran of trying to secretly develop nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian atomic energy program. Iran denies the charges and insists its efforts are aimed at producing nuclear power only.

    Iran says it now controls the entire cycle for producing nuclear fuel — from extracting uranium ore to enriching it and producing nuclear fuel. On Thursday, the country inaugurated a new nuclear facility producing uranium fuel pellets for a planned heavy-water nuclear reactor — the final step in the sophisticated nuclear fuel cycle.


  15. I just came in from getting my car tire fixed, flipped the news on, and saw some signs at the Sacramento tea party that I like:

    “Career politicians are a systemic risk”

    “Transparent as a brick wall”

  16. I really wanted to go to our tea party here at the Alamo, but unfortunately have 2 year old grandbaby with me, and she is feeling bad due to a severe wasp sting about 4 hours ago (she’s okay, but medicated and cranky.)

  17. Here is a note from one of the physician’s that I work with:

    “I took the first two hours of my work day off as vacation so I could go to the Tea Party in downtown Napa before heading into the hospital in Vallejo to do consultations.

    There were about 200 protesters at the gathering, which was quiet and good-natured. People assembled on Main Street downtown in front of the office of Mike Thompson, our local US Congressman, a Democrat. (He did not seem to be in at the time!) There were people of all ages, but the majority appeared to be boomers. Being a veteran of anti-Vietnam War protests in my youth, it was striking to witness the tone of this gathering, which was peaceful in the extreme, entirely moderate (the most raucous expression of protest was a guy beating on a drum in a sort of Revolutionary War tattoo!)…

    There were no counter-protesters or agents provocateurs.

    I was suprised and encouraged that there were as many as 200 people in the Napa Valley who would attend a gathering like this.

    Many who drove down Main Street past the protesters honked in support!

    I asked a woman who took a photo of the whole group to forward it to you; I’m not certain that will happen, but I hope so.”

    The Tea Parties are NOT astroturf.

  18. Local radio here is saying that there are already thousands at the Alamo, and the protest does not even start for another hour and a half.

  19. and bambi is still saying he knows nothing about it?

    I think it’s time to start the impeachment wheels turning…

  20. Wow Admin,

    and those two are supposed to represent ethical journalism? I agree that the “fascist” picture was a bit much and the man really should have been able to back up his beliefs, but cutting off the other guy and then lumping everyone as CNN haters, etc…

    CNN is going downhill and fast!

  21. CNN is pissed because they are DROWNING in the ratings. They thought the ass kissing of Bambi during the primary would pay off and Bambi hasn’t even graced their studios.

    Fcuk them, fcuk that stupid Susan who tried to call herself a reporter,

    CNN what a JOKE.

    Susan wouldn’t even let the people talk. Bitch.

  22. Thank god HRC mentioned siezing pirates assets!! But please explain to my how it took this long?
    Can someone with a little bit of internet savvy please take down the banal wanna be journalist/obama fan. She is a jackass who has been permitted by her network to attack another network– live. Am i mistaken or were the tea parties born from msnbc????? I say hold the two very pathetic wanna be journalists accountable by making the videos of the two viral. the woman on the street was the saddest lamest excuse ever for a professional.

  23. henry Says:

    April 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    Thank god HRC mentioned siezing pirates assets!! But please explain to my how it took this long?


    Because an American ship and citizens had not been involved before this past incident. It took the American ship, citizens, and Navy to get involved, before America started paying more attention to the problem.

  24. Buyers Remorse is going on full speed.Just take notice of the tremendous support for the tea baggers.Obowma is in trouble.At least he has a dog to befriend.

    By ABM90 Hillary 24/7

  25. I looked at the photos on AOL of the Tea Parties. They looked alot bigger than I thought they would be. So how are they spinning it?

  26. ABM90 Says:

    April 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
    Buyers Remorse is going on full speed.Just take notice of the tremendous support for the tea baggers.Obowma is in trouble.At least he has a dog to befriend.

    I heard that “Bo”, his dog, was spotted at one of the tea parties. He was absolutely clear on his preference for canned dog food over arugula. The ASPCA may need to get involved.

  27. That CNN reporter needs to be sentenced to life plus a day in the R. Santelli Sanitorium!!!!!!

    A report on our little Tea Party. This Tea Party was scheduled because there were no others in the area at that point. There were 3 Tea Parties here in the Ocala FL area, two downtown and then this one that invited residents of about four gated 55+ communities. There were NO empty seats, and some people could not find it because the Suite had changed. It was a safe environment for those who could not get downtown or did not want to hassle of parking downtown.

    A “We’re Having a Tea Party” powerpoint presentation was given. Included was the narrative of three thirty and under bloggers’ conversation with each other – it opened a lot of eyes. During the powerpoint there were a lot of, “…that’s right!”

    I mentioned Big Pink and told them that we have brought down MSM and caused the Fox ratings to rise; and that while we boycot MSM solitary ones of us go out to MSM and the Big Blogs and bring news back here and then critique it. I told them that there is more than two years research that could be accessed here.

    The things that were talked about to try to change included:
    -help Alice Paul with the awarding of the Congressional Gold Medal
    -cry out against the frivilous lawsuits that Sarah Palin is being burdened with, and Eminem’s video using misogyny and sexism against her in his new video
    -cry out about Katie Couric receiving the Walter Cronkite Award
    -cry out against Gov Sebelius’ nomination for HHS , as she is a tax cheat and has accepted money from Infanticide doctor and clinic and had vetoed legislation against infanticide
    -rosters of contact information for media and representatives were given out
    -we were reminded that the 2010 elections were tantamount and will be SOON!
    -and a roundtable for the next meeting was discussed
    -a strong tenet of sentiment was that we did not want our grandchildren [and their children] to be burdened with a lifetime of insurmontable debt

    This IS a true grassroots operation, and does not end with the Tea Parties today. Rather these Tea Parties are just the beginning. We thank Fox for being the only media outlet that covered these historic Tea Parties, and did so fairly and balanced. We denounce those media outlets that ‘label’ those exercising their dissent with the government and its politicians! A National Tea Party is being talked about in Washington DC, so get your bags packed and your signs made. Your attendance is respectfully requested.

    BTW, the Tea Parties down town were huge; one is still going on!!!!

  28. So if this had been “left wing” if would have been acceptable?

    I am so sick of these media robots who collectively haven’t got one ethical bone in their bodies.



    Great review of the tea parties in your area!

  29. Hi all!

    Since this was April 15th i could not get out of the office to attend the Tea Party. Clients were coming in at the last minute to get their taxes done.

    This is from Yahoo Page



    here is a link to some of the pictures i took today here at the tax day tea party in sioux falls SD


    A bit about my tea party today:

    3500+ showed up today!!! wooooooo! hoooooooo!

    we had costumed speakers who really rallied and worked up the crowd!
    amongst them was “uncle sam” “lincoln” “Reagan” and others

    they had a special wooden boat that looked like a boston tea party ship!!
    it was re

    Hy vee donated and catered the “free” lunch (hot dogs, chips & pop) AWESOME!!!
    ally cool, and you can see it in my pictures posted at the link above

    the crowd was made up of every age and walk of life all gathered together
    under the same umbrella of ” fed up with our government”

    I knew no one, but felt like i knew everyone……. they were all so friendly and welcomed
    my camera pointed at them 😀

    It was such a great day i wish it hadn’t had to end.

    now i am off to catch up on everything posted here

  31. “The White House says that the president is unaware of the tea parties, and will hold his own event today.”

    Well i guess big media finally told the truth………… OBAMA IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REAL AMERICANS!

  32. dija
    did you check out the you tube video I linked above. Holy shit I have not been that moved by a persons voice in a very long time, personally detest musicals and have been abused by Les Miz more than twenty times so I was beyond shocked to hear this woman create a gem from a song which before today I thought at best was maudlin.

  33. Henry

    no i didn’t, i don’t see your post

    and i don’t usually get to watch many vid’s as i am on dial up…..but if it’s really good i will take the time to download

    can you repost the link??

  34. Henry,

    are you talking about the video basil posted yesterday from Britain Got Talent?

    I don’t see your post either.

  35. It comes down to this for me.”The enemy of my enemy is my friend’. truthfully as a life long democrat before the BO stole the election, I viewed many of the people who protested today as loons( and for the most part still do). However, they are a necessary evil to counter an even greater evil in the policies BO seeks to mandate upon our Democracy. Just like the righties found Hillary helpful in attacking BO in the primary, I find these zealots helpful in trying to expose BO for the fake messages of change and hope he used to mislead and fool the lemmings out who reminded me of those characters jogging with Tom hanks in “Forrest Gump”. Make no mistake, however, these folks, by and large, do not share our view of most things and certainly not our love and devotion to Hillary and Bill.

  36. jbstonesfan

    I am much more tolerant of Reps than I was. I always did have some similar beliefs, but now I see them as the only barrier in the lose of our Democracy. I felt that way in the election also. We formed an alliance with them, as we discovered our former group was not what we thought it was.

    Lets face it, in the Democratic party our Democracy went out the window when they developed the superdud theory.

  37. Dija: Here is a link to the Susan Boyle youtube clip. It is worth downloading.


    One of the clips has had over 7 million hits.

  38. The Nobel prize carries a large cash donation — as well as much publicity — to help the recipient carry on work he is currently doing.

    Gore’s work is very important and needs to be done with as much resource as possible now, not several years from now

  39. birdgal
    thanks I tried to post it but moderation issues.
    I find that woman to be well I guess the word I’d use is triumphant. 47 in a house dress giving new life to an exhauseted song. BRAVO SUSAN BOYLE!!!!

  40. “The White House says that the president is unaware of the tea parties, and will hold his own event today.”
    That is a stupid statement for them to make, i.e. that he is unaware of the tea parties. Why? Because it yields only two possibilities: if he does not know about them then he is unaware of the public reaction to his policies which means he is clueless. If he is does know about them and claims he is unaware of them then he is a liar.

    Now there is a pair to draw to.

  41. I was @ the Austin tea party 5000 strong and it wasn’t the only one in Austin. This one was @ 4 pm @ the Capital. So tired off to bed. Believe it, it is real..

  42. I had a looooooooooooong coversation with a friend who is how shall I put it outraged with Mr. Obama, and rightly so. How is it, she asked, that we have reached that state of leadership impasse that when we are attack, we just sit there watch and wait. Yes, yes, yes the hostage. But the truth is our snipers could have taken him out Thursday and ever succeeding explanation for why we didnt becomes curiorser and curioser. It all relates to the kill order not given by you know who until Sunday. Why then, she asked are we surprised that these pirates attack another US ship the day after. And how is it that the benighted Mr. Obama proclaims one day that we will take firm action against the pirates and then the very next day calls for an international commission. Just think of it–at g-20 an international commission to regulate our economy and now another international commission to defend us against piracy. He is not real big on this sovereignty business now is he?

    Perish the thought, but if I were a big media executive I would be more than a little worried. Looking back on the election I would say that my people were too consumed with clinton hate in the primaries, bush fatigue in the general, and false racial symbolism throughout to realize the peril we have subjected the county to and worried that if it all falls to pieces they will be looking for our scalps. Whereas now, they are stuck with him and if he fails there is no alterative for four years. So they are forced to live a lie and prop him up. But it is strictly for their benefit–to cover their fraud. It is unpatriotic.

  43. These tea parties I find a little like a double edged sword. Alot of these folks are republicans, weren’t they the one that crossed over and voted from Odrama to get in??

  44. I am not sure if we Hillary supporters aren’t being used by the republicans. We must remember those who blasphemed her on National TV, Glenn Beck, “it cries”. How awful of a person is he anyway. How can he now come across as a true American, I say BS!! No person who refers to a former first lady by saying “it cries” deserves to be heard by any of the pro Hillary sites. I am sorry I do not forget how they slaughtered her. She could have got us out of this mess!!

  45. You remember that verse about you must be a redneck. Well, it is that way with that stupid Politico video . . .

    If you oppose looting the treasury to enrich corrupt bankers, pushing a stimulus bill larded with pork, resist policies of appeasement, worry about high unemployment, and think our sovereignty should not be torn assunder then you are either ignorant or malicious but in either case a CONSERVATIVE. That politico organization cannot get past labels.

    When are we going to get past these labels and get down to the simple practice of problemsolving? Not likely with corrupt players like Politico defining and controlling large aspects of the debte.

  46. I am not sure if we Hillary supporters aren’t being used by the republicans. We must remember those who blasphemed her on National TV, Glenn Beck, “it cries”. How awful of a person is he anyway. How can he now come across as a true American, I say BS!! No person who refers to a former first lady by saying “it cries” deserves to be heard by any of the pro Hillary sites. I am sorry I do not forget how they slaughtered her. She could have got us out of this mess!!
    Confloyd: in my part of the country, the Republicans were not effective. I made several attempts to unite Pumas with the mccain campaign with people I knew–and I have to say it was a failure. They just did not get it. They have their own ground organization the religious right, but that organization did not trust McCain. As far as Beck is concerned, I think he is dumber than owlshit–and painful to watch. I think he is like radiation Confloyd the human mind and body can only stand do much beck in a lifetime without mortal symptoms. Personally, I make it a point to limit my exposure.

  47. I am not sure if we Hillary supporters aren’t being used by the republicans. We must remember those who blasphemed her on National TV, Glenn Beck, “it cries”. How awful of a person is he anyway. How can he now come across as a true American, I say BS!! No person who refers to a former first lady by saying “it cries” deserves to be heard by any of the pro Hillary sites. I am sorry I do not forget how they slaughtered her. She could have got us out of this mess!!

    A follow up thought on The Great Beck.

    Lou Dobbs interviewed that corrupt US Attorney in South Texas who locked up the Mexican-American border agents in what could only be described as a travesty of justice. Lou did an effective job of controlling the witness and elicited the responses he was looking for. Lou intimidated the guy.

    Then the same US Attorney went of Beck’s show. Beck warned him in his opening comments that he was going to tear off his head and shit down his neck. And from that moment on the US Attorney took control of the interview and schooled Beck for the next 30 minutes. As between bad guys the US Attorney was worse but Beck never laid a glove on him. It was painful to watch and I formed much of my opinion about Beck based on that interview. Now that I know what he said about Hillary I shall not scruple to call him what he is–a scumbag.

  48. A number of us have commented on Baracks failure to attack the pirates. I have since learned that his primary motivation was humanitarian–a fear of disrupting the pirate economy. If he destroyed that economy then the poor pirates and families could easily become desperate and turn to a life of crime. A thoughful man like him is always thinking ahead–and searching for the nearest exit.

  49. Catskill Area Tea Party.

    Good news from Greene County.

    Durham had an evening tea party with a respectable turnout of over 50 concerned citizens (excellent for this area) along with the County Legislator Chair and the local Assemblyman.

    Pete Lopez gave an impassioned speech and the message was this is just the beginning.
    Speenburgh, the County Chair, reported on a nearby daytime rally close to Hunter Mountain which drew over 150 people.

    That’s an enormous group for this region.

    I was very impressed. The closest big protest was in Albany with over 3,000 people.

    My story is being filed today for the local paper but I was disgusted to see neither the Post nor the News provided any coverage of the NYC protest though there were thousands of people in attendance.

    Some of the stories about the “three thugs in a Room” (Paterson and 2 others) crafting the NYS budget were funny as hell except for the terrible effect on our area.

    The 5.1 million in Stimulus relief Schumer announced just last month has already been whittled down to half that.

    As Speenburgh said, “We keep losing money in the transit from Albany to Catskill.”

    He went over some of Patterson’s draconian fee hikes. Among them is one that repeals the lousy $40 per day local sheriffs got for holding state prisoners overnight in their jails.

    Speenburgh’s suggestion was to lay in a good supply of handcuffs, drive inmates up to Albany, chain them to the fence and yell out to Patterson, “He’s all yours, Gov.”

  50. wbboei Says:
    April 16th, 2009 at 1:12 am

    One of the issues eloquently discussed as the local tea party last night was the obscene DOT report classifying returning vets as potential right wing radicals.

    One audience member made this remark.

    How is it possible that the DOJ is no longer concerned with Islamo Fascists and is instead directing all the power of the office against American citizens?

    It really is frightening.

  51. As far as the republican party goes, I don’t find it a case of the “lesser of the two evils.” In my humble opinion, they have just as much blood on their hands, have screwed up just as much, and definitely played a part in denying Hillary her rightful place as potus.

  52. Obama Reports $2.6 Million in Book Income

    By Michael D. Shear
    Thursday, April 16, 2009

    Barack Obama’s successful quest for the White House powered the sales of his nonfiction books, making him millions even as he assumed the presidency, his tax returns show. As a candidate in 2008, Obama earned about $2.6 million from the sale of his books, “The Audacity of Hope” and “Dreams From My Father,” according to returns the White House released yesterday.
    The book sales represented the vast majority of the first couple’s income, although they also reported wages of about $200,000 and a small amount of investment income.

    Together, Obama and his wife, Michelle, paid about $855,000 in federal taxes. They would have received a $26,000 refund, but asked that the amount be applied to their 2009 income taxes instead.

    The returns, Obama’s first released while president, show that he donated $172,050 to charities, including $25,000 to both CARE and the United Negro College Fund. He did not donate to the Trinity United Church of Christ, the Chicago church where the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., his controversial former pastor, had preached. During the campaign, Obama denounced Wright and quit the church that he had attended for years.

    The tax returns confirm the success Obama has had as an author during the past two years, as his largely autobiographical books have remained high on bestseller lists. His earnings in 2008, in addition to the nearly $4.1 million he earned the year before, put him in the top tier of nonfiction writers in terms of income from book sales. “The president sold a lot of books last year, no doubt, and paid a hefty amount in federal income tax,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a briefing yesterday.

    The White House said the Obamas paid about $78,000 in taxes to their home state of Illinois.

    Officials also released the federal and state tax returns for Vice President Biden and his wife, Jill. The couple earned far less than the Obamas, reporting income of about $270,000. Biden paid about $47,000 in federal taxes and donated $1,885 to charity, the records show. Most of Biden’s income was from his Senate salary, although he reported about $9,500 from audio book royalties related to his 2007 autobiography, “Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics.” Biden’s charitable donations included clothing to Goodwill, and in a statement the White House defended the size of his contributions. “The charitable donations claimed by the Bidens on their tax returns are not the sum of their annual contributions to charity,” the statement says. “They donate to their church, and they contribute to their favorite causes with their time, as well as their checkbooks.”


  53. HENRY!!!!!!!

    If you’re around, check out Megyn Kelly and FOX news between 9-10.

    Britain’s Got Talent Susan Boyle is gonna be interviewed!


  54. As far as the republican party goes, I don’t find it a case of the “lesser of the two evils.” In my humble opinion, they have just as much blood on their hands, have screwed up just as much, and definitely played a part in denying Hillary her rightful place as potus.
    Two wings of the same bird at this point.

  55. Good morning all. So what do you do when you are faced wtih the enemy on both sides? I think this same thing happen in the revoluntionary war. There were European countries that sided with Britian, and those that sided with America, all for their own political reason.

  56. NMF,

    You get down on your knees and beg wbboei to establish and become the leader of a new grassroots independent party!!! Make sure emjay, yourself and all the other wonderful posters here are part and parcel of the new movement! 🙂

  57. Pelosi talks about tea parties, partisan politics…

    April 15, 2009
    By Mark Matthews

    SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) — Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi says it is only natural that Republicans would line up against the president on taxes and budget issues. But she thinks Wednesday’s tea party protestors are missing the point. Pelosi says she is the speaker for the whole House of Representatives, but she has not been able to get a single Republican vote on the president’s stimulus package or his budget.

    Pelosi started out by saying bipartisanship is not dead; she never expected republican support on budget issues. “Budget votes are generally down party lines, in fact many of the Republicans didn’t even vote for the Republican budget, but certainly we expect as we go forward education and health care and addressing the climate crisis global climate crisis that we will have bipartisanship,” Pelosi said.
    But just a minute later, she made a very partisan statement about House Republicans. “They don’t believe in what Barack Obama stands for, they don’t believe in taking the country in a new direction, they don’t believe in having the prosperity where many more people in our country participate in the economic success of our country; they really don’t believe in government role in terms of climate change and some of the other issues that we are making priorities as we go forward,” she said. “They are committed to the failed economic policies of the Bush administration, that’s what they believe.”

    It does not sound like there is much bipartisan feeling on either side. At a Commonwealth Club event Wednesday afternoon, Pelosi told the audience if Republicans have good ideas, she will listen, but will not wait around for them.
    “But if they don’t want to go forward, then you can’t wait, you have to go forward with the majority of the vote,” she said.

    Peolsi characterized Wednesday’s tea party protests as contrived events backed by those who like tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. “They are the people who are funding what is supposed to look like a grass roots operation but is really an Astroturf initiative on the part of those who liked the status quo under George Bush, the failed economic policies that got us where we got today,” Pelosi said.

    It is a house divided, says ABC7 political analyst Bruce Cain, with Republicans playing a waiting game. “They really do believe that they don’t need to make any strategic adjustment they just need to wait for Obama to fail; so it’s not just about Rush Limbaugh, this is the prevailing view of people in Congress, people in the party,” Cain said. Cain says, when Democrats were waiting for President Bush to fail; Rahm Emanuel and Pelosi went looking for moderate blue dog Democrats to run in districts where they would have a chance against Republican incumbents. Cain says Republicans have no such centrist strategy.


  58. basil9 Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 am

    If you’re around, check out Megyn Kelly and FOX news between 9-10.

    Britain’s Got Talent Susan Boyle is gonna be interviewed!


    Basil, she will be interviewed on GMA, in the next half hour.

  59. No, Gore was not friend of the Clintons. As someone pointed out, he blames them for his own loss. There are many reasons why he lost, but the Clintons ain’t one of them. Donna Brazile, who did such an awful job running his campaign, convinced the dimwitted Gore that he needed to distance himself from Bill Clinton and all the scandals – even though Bill’s ratings were through the roof. They told Bill not to bother campaigning for Gore. By the time they changed their minds it was too late. During the primaries in 2008 Gore specifically said he would not be endorsing anyone when asked if he would endorse Hillary Clinton. And then he went on to unofficially advise the Obama campaign. Obama admitted this in the Spring of 2008 as the primary started to wind down. He said that he and Gore spoke on the phone every couple of weeks. Nobody ever said that Gore spoke to Hillary at all.

  60. The AP article about the tea-parties said that there were tens of thousands of people attending tea parties. Which probably means the number is higher than that. The article did not pooh-pooh the parties, which was puzzling. And they did point out that there was a counter-protest somewhere which consisted of 12 people.

    Obama saying he knows nothing of these tea-parties is like Bush saying that those hundreds of thousands of anti-war protesters were just a handful of pacifists.

  61. pajamas media TV is doing a running tally of crowd sizes and so far there up to 225,000+.

    What a friggin’ DISGRACE that NONE of the NYC papers covered it!

    Apparently a dozen code pink protestors near Bush’s Crawford Ranch a couple of years ago is far more significant thatn 12,000 New Yorkers rallying against taxes.

    Oh, I forgot. According to Rick Sanchez the TEA party’s are RACIST!
    BTW, Anyone else catch that clip of the scatter-brained CNN reporter ARGUING with a Chicago protester and dismissing the event as a radical right wing fringe group sponsored by Fox news!!!!!!!

  62. Glenn Beck also called Hillary a “bitch” on his show. He’s as vile as they come; he’s the epitomy of an insane Republican – and I personally have no time for him.

  63. Reid builds $5 million war chest

    By KEVIN FREKING Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada raised more than $2 million in campaign contributions during the first quarter of 2009, giving him an early $5 million war chest as he seeks re-election. Reid’s campaign disclosed the fundraising totals Wednesday, along with a warning to potential opponents. “Anyone considering running against Senator Reid, should know that we will be armed and ready to run an aggressive campaign,” said Brandon Hall, the senator’s campaign manager.

    But Republican officials in Washington countered that the fundraising totals show that Reid knows he’ll be in a competitive race next year. They said the more relevant numbers are Reid’s approval ratings, below 50 percent, which is dangerous territory for an incumbent, said Brian Walsh, spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. The fundraising totals for the quarter show that individuals contributed about $1.6 million to Reid’s campaign, and political action committees donated about $650,000.

    Reid is serving his fourth term. He won his last election rather handily, but came out just 428 votes ahead in 1998.

    Nevada Republicans have failed to field an opponent against Reid so far. Former state Assemblywoman Sharron Angle, an anti-tax activist, is exploring the possibility of running against Reid. Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki also talked about taking on Reid, but his status has been uncertain since his indictment on felony charges of misappropriating state funds. The case is pending.


  64. Both Senate majority leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have expressed support for some earmarks. But overall, congressional Democrats agree that earmarks should be fewer and more transparent. This year has seen a 14 percent increase in pork spending over 2008.

    ‘Pig Book’: Congressional ‘pork’ hits $19.6 billion in 2009: Citizens Against Government Waste released its annual report on ‘pork barrel’ projects Tuesday.

    By Gail Russell Chaddock
    April 14, 2009

    Capitol Hill lawmakers added 10,160 pet projects – aka “pork barrel” projects – to this year’s government spending, fewer than in the previous budget cycle but at a higher total cost. That’s the bottom line from the Pig Book, a list of member projects inserted in annual spending bills, released Tuesday by Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW). The watchdog group, which has issued the Pig Book each year since 1991, calls it “the book Washington doesn’t want you to read.”

    For the record: The 10,160 projects – valued at $19.6 billion – represent a 14 percent increase in the cost to taxpayers over last year’s spending on “pork.” That’s even though the number of projects went down 12.5 percent during the same period.

    “Everyone in Washington has promised a new era of transparency and restraint in earmarks, from President Obama to the leaders of both parties in Congress,” said CAGW president Tom Schatz in a briefing Tuesday. “Sadly, the hard numbers from the 2009 appropriations bills tell a different story. The current Democratic congressional majority is following the same trajectory as their Republican predecessors. They came into power promising to cut earmarks and made a big show of it during their first two years. However, as the 2009 Pig Book amply illustrates, pork-barrel spending is growing fast.”

    Ferreting out sponsors of congressional earmarks was once devilishly complex. But as of fiscal year 2008, Congress has required members to identify their own earmarks. Does that mean the Pig Book is obsolete? Hardly, reformers say, because the issue now is enforcement. “Until fiscal year 2008, we never saw a name next to an earmark. That was a watershed moment for us and taxpayers, to see a project with a name next to it,” says David Williams, CAGW vice president of policy. “Unfortunately, this year we saw a little backsliding with more anonymous earmarks, especially in defense.”

    Of the 10,160 projects is this year’s Pig Book, CAGW identified 221 earmarks worth $7.8 billion that were funded in violation of Congress’s own transparency rules. As in years past, Alaska leads the nation with $221 million in earmarks, or $322 per capita. Hawaii, at $302 million in earmarks, or $235 per capita, ranks No. 2.

    The name of former Sen. Ted Stevens (R) of Alaska – longtime chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, whose conviction on corruption charges was dismissed by a federal judge last week – was scrubbed from the 2009 omnibus spending bill and his earmarks assigned to Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R) of Alaska, CAGW officials note.

    The practice of earmarking has been an early flash point between Mr. Obama, who campaigned to change Washington, and the new Congress. When the White House last month signaled that the president would propose a “different way” of handling earmarks, Democratic leaders in the House and Senate warned him off. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said “legislatively initiated proposals” in spending bills are “an appropriate function of the Congress of the United States.” Senate majority leader Harry Reid noted: “Since we’ve been a country, we have had the obligation, as a Congress, to help direct spending.”

    But Obama and congressional Democrats both agree that earmarks should be fewer and more transparent. That standard, however, has yet to be met, says Taxpayers for Common Sense, another public-interest group that tracks government spending. One issue: Effective this month, members are required to list each of their earmarks on their official websites. “Unfortunately, many members created a labyrinth that made finding their list of requests difficult or impossible, proving again a lesson learned long ago: simply posting information on the Web is not transparency,” said Taxpayers for Common Sense in an April 10 report. Moreover, executive-branch transparency isn’t much better. “Many executive branch budget documents are scattered across the federal agencies, buried on websites that require an advanced degree in electronic archeology to dig out,” the report added.

    Last week, Obama sent a $83.4 billion supplemental budget request to Congress to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and other foreign operations. At the time, he signaled to congressional leaders that he would not accept earmarks or unrelated items in the bill.


  65. Hillary Clinton: Haiti, Cuba policies are under review: Secretary of State Clinton says policies on Haiti and Cuba are still evolving, even as she urges Fidel Castro to free political prisoners.


    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday the Obama administration is reviewing a U.S. policy of deporting undocumented Haitians and left open the possibility of expanding travel to Havana beyond the families of Cuban exiles in the United States. Clinton made the remarks in an interview with The Miami Herald days ahead of the Fifth Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago and days after the White House revamped Cuba policy by lifting all travel and gift restrictions for Americans who have relatives on the island. It is the most significant Cuba policy change in decades. Clinton even offered a sharp reply to Fidel Castro’s criticism that the Obama administration moves were insufficient: ”Well, we would welcome him releasing some political prisoners,” she said.

    She travels Thursday to Port-au-Prince and the Dominican Republic, then links up with President Barack Obama in Port of Spain to bring a message of engagement and collaboration. Clinton made clear that the United States would retain its policy of interdicting Haitians trying to reach Florida’s sun-drenched shores but said the administration was looking at its deportation practices involving Haitians, who help support their impoverished country with remittances.


    ”We are reviewing the policy, and we know what a great source of income the remittances are that flow from . . . principally the United States back to Haiti,” she said. An estimated 30,000 Haitians are currently in the deportation pipeline, and immigration advocates argue it would be cruel to send them back to a storm-ravaged country struggling to recover from four back-to-back storms that left nearly $1 billion in damage. Clinton said the administration was sympathetic to “what a tremendous burden it would be on Haiti if all of a sudden they were forced to accommodate the thousands of people who were otherwise working in our country. “So we expect that we will be able to look closely at this and try to come up with some appropriate responses to the challenges posed.” Haitian advocates want the Obama administration to add Haiti to the list of nations whose citizens here receive Temporary Protected Status. That would permit undocumented Haitian migrants to stay and work in the United States temporarily.

    Clinton noted that the White House announcement Monday to lift travel restrictions on Americans with family in Cuba was the first step in an ongoing policy review. ”We’re continuing to explore ways to further democracy in Cuba and provide the Cuban people with more opportunities but we haven’t made any further decisions yet,” she said. Asked specifically whether it was not preferential treatment to permit only Cuban-American exiles to travel to Cuba, she replied: “That’s part of our policy review. Our first goal was to reverse the Draconian rules imposed by the Bush administration, which took away privileges that had been available for a long time.
    “And obviously we think Cuban Americans have special roles to play as serving as ambassadors of freedom and helping the Cuban people understand the opportunities that democracy would bring.”

    Clinton’s trip to Port-au-Prince Thursday follows a donors conference held Tuesday in Washington in which nations and financial organizations pledged $324 million to Haiti. Clinton stressed that the U.S. pledge of $57 million was focused on enhancing security in Haiti, investment in job creation and helping the Haitian diaspora contribute their talent to their homeland. ”The United States will be investing in jobs around infrastructure. The road system in Haiti needs both expansion and maintenance, and we’re going to emphasize the use of our aid to those purposes,” she said.

    Clinton will meet with Haitian President René Préval, visit a factory and talk to people who could benefit from the financial aid. She has asked for a review of all foreign aid going to Haiti. She will also promote the benefits of the U.S. Congress-appoved duty-free access HOPE II textile legislation and other partnerships. “We want to do more on alternative clean energy. . . . If we can get investment looking at Haiti as a realistic money-making opportunity along with aid and trade, I think that the mother in Cité Soleil will see more jobs for her and hopefully a better future for her children.”

    Haiti Prime Minister Michèle Pierre-Louis met with both Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday and welcomed the renewed interest. ”It’s up to us Haitians to make sure we understand what is at stake,” Pierre-Louis said. “Haiti has a chance. We have to seize this opportunity.”


    Clinton told The Miami Herald the White House would not be going to Trinidad with a ”one-size-fits-all” program to forge partnerships in energy, the economy and trade.
    Nor would it seek to dictate solutions, she said. ”Part of what we’re going to do at the Summit of the Americas is actually listen, which has been in somewhat scarce supply over the last eight years,” she said. “We are really looking to be a good partner and a reliable friend and neighbor.”


  66. I hope Hillary stops in South Florida before her trip. It would be great to see her in person again.

  67. Admin,

    That woman from CNN was out for sensationalism. She was out to censor free speech. CNN has become worse than the National Enquirer!

  68. JanH, I was astonished by the chip on her shoulder of how she felt, vs how she should be reporting the news.

  69. JanH, she did an excellant job of defending herself. I thought the statement that this was not for family viewing halarious. What had been said to cause that condemnation, and she said she was not indicating that it was not Rep vs Dims, but it was when she used the code words Fox news vs CNN. The sign that women pointed out was in plain view, but they ignored it.

  70. The CNN correspondent, like most of Big Media, actually believes it is her job to support Obama , rather than report the facts. Nothing new to those of us here.

  71. ADMIN!!!!!

    Thanks for the additional footage of that CNN airhead anchoress. What a friggin wimp and a liar.

    BTW, DO you have any clips of the NYC protest? I haven’t been able to find a thing online!

    Could you post it?


  72. OK.

    I just found one and it’s a doozie.

    An AA guy with a bullhorn starts off the clip by saying “Don’t adjust your cameras, yet. I’m black, I’m Republican and I’m proud of it.”


  73. Here’s a better clip including that guy and showing the size of the crowd.


  74. OMG!!!!!!

    THANKS so much for the Atlas Shrugged clip!!!!

    I am besides myself with rage that this is NOT being covered!!!!!
    I swear I feel like I’m in some Bizarro World! When info is deliberately withheld from us we begin doubting our own perceptions. I guess that’s the friggin point! I hate to admit it but the BO cabel is doing one helluvajob hidign the truth from us.
    Thank God for this site and for the internet!

  75. Unfriggin’ Believable! (saw this at drudge)

    CHICAGO, IL (April 15, 2009) – Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-IL, released the following statement in response to “tea parties” being held on Tax Day.

    “The ‘tea parties’ being held today by groups of right-wing activists, and fueled by FOX News Channel, are an effort to mislead the public about the Obama economic plan that cuts taxes for 95 percent of Americans and creates 3.5 million jobs. It’s despicable that right-wing Republicans would attempt to cheapen a significant, honorable moment of American history with a shameful political stunt. Not a single American household or business will be taxed at a higher rate this year. Made to look like a grassroots uprising, this is an Obama bashing party promoted by corporate interests, as well as Republican lobbyists and politicians.”

    You can reach the Congresswoman HERE.

  76. Dropped in for a second JanH. I would like an opportunity to work in the Buget area. I really don’t think that elected officials understand all the games that go on there, and I have some slight understanding I think could really be put to good use.

  77. After reviewing the two new videos, I heard a couple of time that the government was not Masters of the People, the People are the Masters of the government, That they work for us. I remembered saying to an inner New Mexico Dimocrat during the primary that the Governor of this state works for me. He looked at me like I was Stupid.

    I guess there are people out there that agree with me.

  78. LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!!!!!

    From RBO, 8 pages of Tea Party clips from across the country.

    There are dozens of videos here!

    Now I’m even more stunned by MSM’s news blackout!


  79. Both Gore and HIllary (and others in the Clinton 90s cabinet) have been falsely accused of many things. The fact is that Hillary and Bill chose Gore in 1992 as a very able and good person, supported him in 2000. Rightwingers and everyone else who wants to deny climate change bash Gore every chance they get, and try to alienate us from him.

    Imo he’s too smart and knows too much to have preferred Obama; he knows what Hillary is really capable of.

    But in any case, his work on climate change is the most important thing going on now, and deserved the Nobel.

  80. turndownobama> I’m afraid there’s no doubt that Gore advised the Obama campaign against Hillary during the primaries and he said flat out when asked in 2007 if he would endorse Hillary Clinton, that he would not endorse anyone. That was a very pointed remark that he would not be endorsing Hillary.

  81. Gore is a Clinton hater par none…he back stabbed Hillary and worked hand in hand with the Obama campaign much like other Clinton turncoats. The fact he didn’t endorse Hillary is evidence enough of what a selfish pig he is as Bill gave him the VP and he has made hundreds of millions of dollars with his global warming stuff.

  82. I followed HIllary’s campaign very closely since fall of 2007. If Gore had worked against her I think I would have seen some mention of it.

    If your sources are accusing him of impropriety in his climate work, that’s all the more reason to reject them.
    Polluters have strong motives to discredit Gore.

  83. NMF,

    I think you would be amazing in that area. I know you would be throwing the pork back in those idiots faces!!!

  84. Turndown,

    I always respect your opinion but I guess we will have to agree to disagree about Gore getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

  85. Basil,

    The dimwitted dunce cap dims are enmass slamming the door on their political futures by ridiculing and slapping down ordinary, hard working Americans who oppose the pork-like overspending obama is pushing at them. They don’t care that many generations will struggle to pay back the national debt. They don’t care that these people voted for them in the first place.

    By labeling all tea party participants/protestors as right-wing idiots, they are making themselves to be a bunch of pompous, full of themselves pigs.

    And the clip Admin kindly provided from the Conservative Atlas Shrugs website specific to the coverage of NY Tea Party, shows just how out to lunch the dims and cnn really are. The man and woman interviewed were amazingly eloquent with their arguments.

  86. JanH, thanks for the compliment. I have been know to hold my own in fierce company, and I can play poker with the best of them.

    I admire so many on this blog, and you are one of them. There are such great writers and researchers here.


    I believe I posted a reference to the NY Times article back on Monday 4/13:


    U.S. May Drop Key Condition for Talks With Iran

    Published: April 13, 2009
    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration and its European allies are preparing proposals that would shift strategy toward Iran by dropping a longstanding American insistence that Tehran rapidly shut down nuclear facilities during the early phases of negotiations over its atomic program, according to officials involved in the discussions.

    The proposals, exchanged in confidential strategy sessions with European allies, would press Tehran to open up its nuclear program gradually to wide-ranging inspection. But the proposals would also allow Iran to continue enriching uranium for some period during the talks. That would be a sharp break from the approach taken by the Bush administration, which had demanded that Iran halt its enrichment activities, at least briefly to initiate negotiations.

    The proposals under consideration would go somewhat beyond President Obama’s promise, during the presidential campaign, to open negotiations with Iran “without preconditions.” Officials involved in the discussion said they were being fashioned to draw Iran into nuclear talks that it had so far shunned.


    The key phrase from above is:

    “But the proposals would also allow Iran to continue enriching uranium for some period during the talks.”

    But I recall hearing on the radio, NPR, maybe on Tuesday or Wednesday that SoS Clinton (hey, that does have NICE RING TO IT…sung with Canadian Mounty brassiness….”Here I come to save the day”) stated that Iran would be endangering negotiations if they proceeded with nuclear fuel production. Of course, they’ll say it’s for “peaceful purposes”. I think they even quoted her. Does anyone else recall hearing about Clinton’s talking about this over the past couple of days?

    So if I am correct in recalling that radio spot, it would appear that either the SoS is “off message”, or “pulling a Biden”, or, obama wants to look like the healer / good guy, and Hillary is tasked with the tough negotiations.

  88. You are right about labeling. When people disagree with you, you have to label them and in such a manner that it is derrogator. Otherwise, your internal feelngs tell you they might be right.

    However, the really wise people do not do this. They listen to all opinions and respect and learn from them, and in the process sometimes even change their minds. The Dims and Superduds in today’s world are not doing that.

    There have been, and there remains some elections coming up that will be telling.

  89. turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
    I followed HIllary’s campaign very closely since fall of 2007. If Gore had worked against her I think I would have seen some mention of it.

    Gore tried getting pulled into the fray, but when he did, he chose evil.

  90. “or, obama wants to look like the healer / good guy, and Hillary is tasked with the tough negotiations.”



  91. rgb,

    Early reaction to Al Gore’s Obama endorsement: Yawn
    Jun 17, 2008

    Note the date; well after Hillary suspended on June 3.

  92. jbstonesfan Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    I hope Hillary stops in South Florida before her trip. It would be great to see her in person again.

    Actually this is a comment re Haitians getting special accommodations to stay in America. Jesus, do we have to encourage all 3rd world countries to sneak their citizens into America to get a job (at lower wages of course) in order to give them special status because their country now depends on the illegal actions of its citizens to stay a float? Kind of like welfare. Once they get use to it, why bother putting the energy into their own system to effect change. Our boarder and laws mean nothing I guess. I say this knowing that if i were in their shoes, I would come here as fast as I could. But is there really no other answer? Can no nation pull themselves up from third world status to a developed country any more? Just easier to encourage people to leave and send back money. Cuba, Mexico, Haiti

    We will not have any open spaces in this country in a very short time.

  93. turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Gore HATES the Clintons

  94. Clinton calls for Cyprus solution soon

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has called on rival leaders in Cyprus to seize momentum and reach a solution soon to reunify the divided island, her spokesman said Thursday. Clinton met Wednesday with Mehmet Ali Talat, leader of breakaway Turkish Cyprus. She met earlier this month in Prague with Markos Kyprianou, foreign minister of the internationally recognized Republic of Cyprus, who will come next week to Washington for further talks.

    “She expressed her support for the efforts of both sides to build on the momentum and achieve a solution as soon as possible, which will require courage on all sides,” State Department spokesman Robert Wood said.
    Clinton voiced “her confidence they can meet this challenge,” he said.

    Talat, who succeeded hardliner Rauf Denktash in 2005, headed to Washington for the talks just days before Turkish Cyprus holds elections. His left-wing Turkish Republican Party has been down in opinion polls.

    The State Department said Clinton had a “positive, constructive meeting” with Talat. “She reaffirmed the support of the United States for a just and lasting settlement that reunifies Cyprus into a bizonal, bicommunal federation,” Wood said.

    Cyprus has been divided along ethnic lines since 1974 when Turkey invaded the island’s northern third in response to an Athens-engineered Greek Cypriot coup to unite the island with Greece.

    The State Department said Clinton’s meeting with Talat did not imply any recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, with which only Ankara maintains diplomatic relations.
    Clinton also welcomed the work of the special envoy on Cyprus, former Australian foreign minister Alexander Downer.


  95. gonzotx Says:
    April 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Gore HATES the Clintons



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  98. Dijia,

    I saw that!

    Ya know, I really am beginning to wonder if CNN and MSNBC’s wall-to-wall BO coverage during the primaries and selection WAS just for ratings?????????

  99. CNN has turned ugly!

    I want to take this opportunity to remind everyone,

    CNN tried offending Sarah Palin last night by calling her a Hillbilly!

    I don’t know who actually said it, but they called her a HillBilly!

    Then I thought to myself… But the Pope would approve her appointment as Ambassador to the Vatican!

    Take that Caroline! Hillbillys (2) Kennedys (0)

  100. I’m a little sceptical that CK was ever seriously suggested as Ambassador to Vatican.

    Or did Obama really say that the Pope should get up to date or change his policies or something????

  101. \~/ half empty glass. AOL is on a roll of new symbols today. They usually are the same old ones.

  102. imo- Caroline is looking for security.(special protection/treatment) As a Senator or Ambassador she would be afforded the Security of the Federal Government with all the protection that comes with it.

    I’m sure, Ted never thought he’d see the day Caroline would be shunned by the public as a rude, condescending, erstwhile, inept, daughter of his late brother. It shows and she did!

  103. turndownobama> You are somehow conflating Gore’s environmental work with his conflict with the Clintons; you’re treating it as an either/or and I don’t see the connection. The fact that Obama and Gore spoke regularly through the primaries was discussed in the media in the Spring of 2008 after Obama mentioned it in an interview. I had seen it written in several articles. Here’s a reference to it in a short article quoting The New Republic’s Michael Crawley speculating about Gore being Obama’s VP. The article is from August 2008 and it says that Obama and Gore speak every couple of weeks – and have been doing so for over a year.


    Gore and the Clintons are not friends. This is not a secret. This has nothing to do with Gore’s Nobel and his work on the environment.

  104. Caroline for Ambassador somewhere like Monaco or Grand Fenwick, fine. Her background seems right for that.

    I’m just sceptical that she was ever considered for the Vatican of all places!

  105. honestly turndown,

    nothing surprises me about the audacity of the Kennedys. I could see Teddy as well as Kerry pushing for it.

  106. CNN and MSNBC are still actively trying to demonize, embarrass and destroy Sarah Palin…they are relentless…as for MSNBC, I don’t think they care about their ratings, supposedly GE is getting $$$ from stimulus and O is ‘taking care of them’, etc…their whole agenda is to cover O’s butt and try to do as much damage to the opposition as they can…

    the NY Post has an article today about GE muzzling CNBC for being critical of Obama…as if we didn’t know…hope to see Ratigan appear somewhere soon…he got the hell out of there…

    *****************the links below are two very interesting articles on the conflict of interest between O’s admin and the banksters and wall st…and how flawed his strategy is…also on the secrecy of the trillions the fed is funneling to the banks…just put in the http://www.and the links…




    and Elizabeth Warren continues to lead the crusade for transparency and truth…she is a heroine in my book…


  107. it’s perfectly acceptable here to agree to disagree with civility. I am no big Al Gore fan. I did not like the way he distanced himself from the Clintons during the 2000 election, and I felt he blamed Clinton, in large part for his loss.
    As far as “hating ” the Clintons. maybe that is too strong, but I find it ironic that Bill has a much better relationship with Bush 1 than his former VP, and most of the other democratic turncoats(see Carter, Kennedy, Dodd, Leahy, Richardson).
    Other than Ann Lewis, Carvil, Begala, and a few other brave politicians, most , if not all, of the people Bill appointed or nominated fucked Hillary over(see Susan Rice).
    Finally, why does Gore deserve a nobel peace prize? He did not cause, prevent, or otherwise create awareness of Global warming. The reality is there are many reasons for it, and his attack on any one who disagrees with his idea on the causes are no better than the right wing smears against the Clintons. Anyway, as someone said “yawn”…it’s old news.

  108. CNN and MSNBC are still actively trying to demonize, embarrass and destroy Sarah Palin…they are relentless…as for MSNBC, I don’t think they care about their ratings, supposedly GE is getting $$$ from stimulus and O is ‘taking care of them’, etc…their whole agenda is to cover O’s butt and try to do as much damage to the opposition as they can…

    the NY Post has an article today about GE muzzling CNBC for being critical of Obama…as if we didn’t know…hope to see Ratigan appear somewhere soon…he got the hell out of there…

    *****************the links below are two very interesting articles on the conflict of interest between O’s admin and the banksters and wall st…and how flawed his strategy is…also on the secrecy of the trillions the fed is funneling to the banks…




    and Elizabeth Warren continues to lead the crusade for transparency and truth…she is a heroine in my book…


    …sorry if this duplicates, it got stuck in moderation

  109. jb,

    I’m sorry, but this is all tabloid stuff! We don’t know how any of these people feel about each other. It is just imagination, speculation. Productive adults in the real world don’t go around ‘hating’ each other in all caps for such flimsy imagined reasons.

    As for Gore’s climate work, he wrote EARTH IN THE BALANCE c. 1992 and has been working strongly in that area ever since (plus whatever he had done before 92, such as holding the first Senate hearings on toxic waste). Of course others get credit too, but he certainly is the major one — and this was the right time to give his efforts that boost.

  110. Jan… i got the ratings off the front page of drudge

    sorry lou dobbs was not included….but i would be curious to know too

  111. I have a comment in moderation with a link to a brief article that mentions that Gore and Obama have been talking regularly since at least August 2007.

    Gore’s icy relationship with the Clintons is not a secret and is not tabloid stuff. It’s been discussed in the media since Gore’s Presidential campaign. And it has nothing to do with Gore’s work on the environment.

  112. DYB Says:
    April 16th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    I was quite taken back by Gore’s treatment of the Clintons. The son of a preacher played into the RW’s hands by adhering to the lying whispers of his chosen VP, LIEberman and his second mistake, his campaign mgr Donna Brazile, telling him Bill was bad for business because he projected the wrong image to the public.

    Gore was faced with several opportunities to fight for us… instead, he willingly layed down and allowed Bush to roll over him as if he wasn’t even there.

    Gore is a coward and an indolent weakling. He chose the path of least resistance and moved over to the dark side.

  113. turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    gonzotx Says:
    April 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Gore HATES the Clintons


    turndownobama-com Says:

    April 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I’m sorry, but this is all tabloid stuff! We don’t know how any of these people feel about each other. It is just imagination, speculation. Productive adults in the real world don’t go around ‘hating’ each other in all caps for such flimsy imagined reasons.
    I agree. So BS wasn’t in caps?

  114. What CNN Didn’t Show of Roesgen’s Chicago Tea Party Interviews

    By Noel Sheppard
    April 16, 2009 – 13:47 ET

    CNN’s coverage of Wednesday’s Chicago Tea Party, and in particular, Susan Roesgen’s despicable performance, might end up being the lowlight in how the press reported yesterday’s historic protests.

    Yet, there’s much more to this story.

    Members of FoundingBloggers.com continued to videotape Roesgen after her much-publicized argument with a Party-goer, and you’ll be surprised at what transpired (video embedded below the fold h/t NBer Blazer, vulgarity warning):



  115. wbboei/janh, what I am praying for is a REAL third party. Both parties have so many corrupt officials in them its hard to tell who is who.
    I hope that a new party will make an appearance with Hillary as its head in 2012!!

  116. I heard from a gal today at work that obama is on yet another vacation next week , heading for newton iowa

    for what i don’t really know……..yet

    anyone hear anything??

  117. OT…The response of the Obma/Holder DOJ:
    “Attorney General Eric Holder promised in a separate statement that officials who used the controversial interrogation tactics were in the clear if their actions were consistent with the legal advice from the Justice Department under which they were operating at the time.”

    (Obama) He added that the officials involved in the questionable interrogations would not be subject to prosecution because the intelligence community must be provided “with the confidence” it needs to do its job.
    I thought the Nuremberg trials of Nazi’s rejected the defense of “I was following orders” These people should be prosecuted under the US War Crimes Law of 1996.

  118. Hispanic groups call for Census boycott

    By Haya El Nasser, USA TODAY
    Some Hispanic advocacy groups are calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 Census unless immigration laws are changed. The move puts them at odds with leading immigrant rights advocates and creates another hurdle in the Census Bureau’s quest to count everyone in the USA.

    The National Coalition of Latino Clergy & Christian Leaders, a group that says it represents 20,000 evangelical churches in 34 states, issued a statement this week urging undocumented immigrants not to fill out Census forms unless Congress passes “genuine immigration reform.”

    Similar grass-roots campaigns are unfolding in Arizona and New Mexico to protest state and local crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Asking immigrants to be counted without giving them a chance to become legal residents counters church teachings, says the Rev. Miguel Rivera, president of the Latino religious coalition.

    When the Census counts growing numbers of Hispanics, the counts are often used to support crackdowns on illegal immigrants, he says. About 38% of the churches’ 3.4 million members are undocumented, he says. The Census Bureau does not ask people if they are here illegally.

    “Our job is to count every single person,” says Raul Cisneros, Census spokesman. “We are disappointed that any organization would urge anyone to not participate in the 2010 Census.”
    FIND MORE STORIES IN: Congress | Arizona | Phoenix | New Mexico | Hispanics | Census Bureau | Trust | Spanish-speaking | Christian leaders | Arturo Vargas | National Association of Latino Elected Officials | National Coalition of Latino Clergy | Alfredo Gutierrez | Rev. Miguel Rivera

    Federal funding and apportionment of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives are based on a Census of the population every 10 years. Not counting the estimated 12 million immigrants who are here illegally would send less money to states and cities that have large numbers of undocumented residents and could shift political clout elsewhere.

    “We know it will hurt a lot of cities,” Rivera says.

    That’s the bargaining chip boycott supporters are using to lobby lawmakers to issue temporary work visas for undocumented workers and give them a way to become citizens.

    The call for a boycott “may be well-intended but misguided and ultimately irresponsible,” says Arturo Vargas, executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected Officials and a member of a Census advisory panel.

    “There is a sense of desperation and frustration among some immigrant rights leaders” that Congress has not taken action on such issues, Vargas says. They should give the new administration a chance, he says.

    That is not allaying concerns in states that have imposed sanctions on employers who hire illegal immigrants or in cities and counties that have given police the power to enforce immigration laws.

    In Phoenix, immigrant advocates such as Alfredo Gutierrez, host of a daily radio program on a Spanish station, threaten a Census boycott to protest crackdowns on illegal immigrants.

    In Roswell, N.M., businessman Bobby Villegas launched a campaign in February to get undocumented workers to boycott the Census. He’s doing it as the city nears 50,000 population, a mark that would give it the government designation as a metropolitan area, which puts cities on the map for national marketers and retailers.

    “Are we going to bring more money in the community so that they can hire more police officers who then will go out after more undocumented?” Villegas asks.

    The Roswell Hispano Chamber of Commerce he helped found voiced support for the Census, but “it’s going to be very hard to reach these individuals and say, ‘Trust me,’ ” says Juan Oropesa, executive director.

    Nationally, efforts to have the Census reach Hispanics get backing from major Spanish-speaking media and organizations. For the first time, the Census will send forms in English and Spanish to about 13 million households in areas that have a high concentration of Hispanics.


  119. Hi djia…

    I really don’t think we will have much of a problem starting a Third Party.

    THIRD WAY Democrats, has a unique Indy sound to it… and is self-explanatory..

    People are fed up with the existing (both) Parties now that they understand what is going on…

    I think the Tea-Partys are the perfect venue and will eventually go Viral!

  120. Car czar caught up in investigation

    In March, Steven Rattner, the leader of the Obama Administration’s auto task force, was the man who sat face to face with General Motors CEO Rick Wagoner at a Treasury Department meeting, and fired him.

    Now it’s Rattner’s turn on the hot seat.

    The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday night that Rattner was involved with payments at the center of an investigation into an alleged kickback scheme at New York state’s pension fund. Sourcing their information to a “person familiar with the matter,” Journal reporters Craig Karmin and Peter Lattman reported that Rattner, who was then an executive at Quadrangle Group, an investment firm he co-founded, met with a “politically connected” consultant to discuss a finder’s fee. Quadrangle later paid a $1.1 million fee, and received a $100 million investment from the New York State Common Retirement Fund.

    New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and the Securities and Exchange Commission have been investigating whether payments to middle men by private equity firms including Quadrangle constituted improper kickbacks in exchange for investments from the pension fudn, which is worth $122 billion.

    For the Obama Administration, the revelation of Rattner’s involvement in the deal is likely to cause a political headache at a time when the president is set to decide on the ultimate fate of General Motors and Chrysler, the car companies which are living on government bailout money and facing a strict timetable to reconstitute their businesses.

    According to the Journal, a spokeswoman for the Treasury department said that Rattner disclosed the pending investigation during the vetting process of the presidential transition. That will raise uncomfortable comparisons to Treasury’s top official, Secretary Timothy Geithner, who failed to correctly pay his taxes, but was nonetheless supported for the position by President Obama in the face of stiff criticism at the time.

  121. Mrs Smith

    there was alot of talk and signs advocating the need for a 3rd party, glenn beck has also beat that drum a bit too lately.

    I have heard name suggestions, and i hear alot of ” the TEA party” nominations

    makes sense since it is a movement that was started grassroots and not by some “politicians”, it’s symbolic of what this country
    was based on and what we would like to achieve today with our government.

  122. oh yea, one more thing

    I don’t think any third party using “democrat” in its name has a shred of a chance……sorry to say

    have a good night all, off to dream of tea parties 😀 LOL

  123. All this alleged emotionalism belongs in tabloids about teenage entertainers, even if what should be real media have lately taken it up and ascribed it to politicians.

    Someone chosen by the Clintons as VP is not going to be the kind of shallow, unstable person that would make a major decision based on a ‘frosty relationship’, much less ‘hate’ the Clintons he served under for 8 years.

    A few of the old Clinton cabinet did turn Judas, like Richardson and Reich? But they doubtless had sane if selfish motives. Trashing Gore’s character overall is an insult to the Clintons for choosing him! (As well as an affront to common sense.)

  124. Gore made a lot of mistakes in 2000 but to trash his character overall is an insult to the Clintons who chose him as VP.

  125. These emotionalistic decisions being attributed to Gore (and others) by media belong in tabloids even if they are now appearing in major media. Note that the media never says things like this about their chosen candidates.

  126. djia Says:

    I don’t think any third party using “democrat” in its name has a shred of a chance……sorry to say


    There are so many disaffected and disappointed Democrats who resent the current crop of Dems as traitors. I’m all for hanging oversized, used Tea-Bags in Protest around their necks.

    Start polling people and see how using ‘3rd Party Democrats’ is emblematic of a new generation of Democrats is received.

  127. Turndown-

    I think you are a great poster and can appreciate your loyalty to Gore. However, you can’t white wash history in an attempt to make it more palatable in the abstract.

    It is what it is… and not you or anyone else can change it. Gore FAILED by his own hand and he FAILED us. Good for him he found a second job more in keeping with his persona… Bill and Hillary tried to help him fight the good fight. He rejected them out of hand as 2 people that although they gave him historical significance (a political life) his hand of friendship extended as they say, was a mile wide and an inch deep. When push came to shove…he ducked and ran!

  128. Mrs. Smith Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    I understand that, but there is disenchanted republicans too and i doubt they would join any new party with a name affiliated with democrat or even republican

    I wouldn’t.

  129. White House to meet with credit card execs-sources

    WASHINGTON, April 16 (Reuters) – The White House is planning a meeting on April 23 with 14 top executives at banks with large credit card divisions, two sources familiar with the plans said on Thursday.

    The meeting will involve discussions about transparency in the credit card companies’ lending practices and interest rates, one of the sources said. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers are expected to be there, but U.S. President Barack Obama is not expected to attend, according to the sources.

    The White House had no immediate comment.
    The sources asked not to be identified because the White House has not announced the meeting.


  130. # turndownobama-com Says:
    April 17th, 2009 at 2:16 am

    Pls learn to distinguish fact from opinion.


    You’ll have to demonstrate what you claim by providing facts for starters.

  131. basil,

    I really hope this wonderfully talented lady starts on the path of a very successful record career. I will be first in line to buy her albums.

    I have listed to her Britain’s got Talent debut a few times now and every time I watch I choke up.

  132. An interesting article from a few days back…

    IRS workers see double standard on tax errors

    By Tom Hamburger and Ralph Vartabedian
    April 15, 2009

    The Treasury secretary, who oversees the IRS, didn’t pay all his taxes. Neither did five other top nominees for the Obama administration, or their spouses. Now, as Wednesday’s tax deadline looms, some Americans are wondering why they should comply with the arcane requirements of the Internal Revenue Service when top administration officials failed to do the same. Even some IRS employees are upset at what they see as a double standard.

    The most criticized example has been Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who admitted not paying $34,000 in payroll and Social Security taxes, saying his failure to pay was an oversight. Five other nominees disclosed similar tax issues, including one as recently as two weeks ago when Kathleen Sebelius, President Barack Obama’s pick for secretary of health and human services, admitted she didn’t pay $7,040.

    “Our members are upset and angry,” said Colleen Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union, referring to concern bubbling up within the IRS over unusually strict rules that can cost agents their jobs if they make a mistake.
    In an interview Tuesday, Kelley said the Geithner case underlines the need for a change of the rules governing IRS employees. “My issue is not that I want Geithner or anyone else punished,” Kelley said. “I want there to be a re-examination of the law that holds IRS employees to a separate standard: one in which a simple mistake can cost them their jobs with no right of appeal.”

    Robert Schriebman, a California tax lawyer who has testified before Congress, said his clients are seething over the tough treatment they get from the IRS, while some in the president’s Cabinet apparently were able to duck paying their taxes. “Politically powerful people are less likely to get bothered by the IRS,” Schriebman said. “It is more than a question of fairness. Not only is the IRS looking away from confronting influential people, the IRS is getting a lot tougher and nastier toward the little guy.”

    IRS employees have reported that taxpayers are occasionally citing the Geithner case when they are asked to pay their tax bills. “It’s making the compliance conversation harder,” Kelley said. Geithner’s $34,000 in unpaid taxes pales in comparison to the more than $128,000 owed by Tom Daschle, Obama’s first choice to run health and human services. But Geithner’s position overseeing the IRS has made his case particularly galling in the public’s mind.

    IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman told reporters Monday that there is no discrimination when it comes to tax enforcement. “The American people are pretty smart,” he said. “They understand that people who are nominated for high office are going to be put under a level of scrutiny. They also understand the tax code is incredibly complex.”


  133. I don’t want to carry conflict to a new thread, so I’ll just say briefly — ALL evaluative terms like ‘coward’ etc are opinion. We do not know what is in another person’s heart unless there are FACTS, clear pieces of EVIDENCE, to support our speculation — such as a taped statement from the person, a letter he wrote, testimony or action from people who knew him VERY well, etc.

    Even our respect for the Clintons’ character is opinion. Imo it is well based because their daily actions over the years support it; people do not put in that many hours every day working for causes unless they’re sincere, in the usual case.

    For example, over the decades Gore has put in a great many hours of hard work on his environmental research, in the face of ridicule then and now. So this counts as evidence of sincerity and diligence.

    Whatever ‘actions’ he may or may not have done during the impeachment or the 2000 campaign — are not on that level. We can’t go from newspaper opinion or lack of a statement or some soundbytes to form a valid judgment of his feelings toward the Clintons now, or of his character then, other than that he was wrong in trusting Brazile.

    Taking our opinion of the Clintons as something to work from, we can look at their vetting of their 1993 staff, the performance of that staff for 8 years, their support of some of their old staff members since — as pretty solid evidence for the character and abilities of most of their old staff.

    Yes, there were some clear Judases. But they were competent in their jobs (or the Clntns wouldl have fired them) and later became Judas from sane, if morally dubious, motives. Richardson turned Judas because Obama made him a good offer* — not because he ‘HATES’ the Clintons or had a ‘frosty relationship’ with them.

    The Clintons (we start with) are sane people of good judgement (and do not themselves display grudges even against real enemies such as Schafe or the Impeachers). So they would not choose a VP who would be guided by silly superficial emotional motives 8 years later.

    To bash former Clinton cabinet and staff — is to bash the Clintons.

    *ok, that’s my opinion

  134. JanH, the group ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) staged massive rallies in the past even though many anti-war activists thought the group was hijacking anti-war sentiment to promote anti-Israel views. ADL exposed the group’s hidden agenda: http://www.adl.org/israel/answer.asp

    After a tough New York Times article on January 24, 2003 the anti-war movement supported ANSWER with these words which the Tea Party organizers can use to explain Republican Party involvement and Fox News involvement: http://www.laborstandard.org/Iraq/Feldman_Jan24.htm

    I think it is very important that our movement respond very strongly to the following article from today’s New York Times as what it is—an attempt to redbait the entire movement and disrupt the process of building a genuinely united and truly massive action on February 15. The article is an attempt to heighten the line of attack on the struggle against the war that attempts to divide and conquer by selecting ANSWER as a scapegoat.

    Of course, as we all know, ANSWER, and the Workers World Party which participates in ANSWER, have the right to take any positions they want on any questions they want—North Korea, Yugoslavia, whatever.

    Right or wrong, these positions do nothing to illegitimize or throw into question the tremendous work they have done for the fight against the war in Iraq by initiating, building, and successfully involving broad forces in the October 25 and January 18 protests. In building a united fight against U.S. aggression—that’s what “preemptive war” is—the antiwar movement does not pretend to stand in judgment over its participants’ political positions.

    We unconditionally support ANSWER’s right to be part of the movement, and we welcome its full participation at every level in building February 15.

    The crookedest trick in the Times article is to present our coalition, United for Peace and Justice, as some kind of “okay,” safe and sane “alternative” to ANSWER. Leslie Cagan’s statement, made repeatedly in all kinds of contexts, that we assume speakers on February 15 will relate their perspectives to their opposition to the war in Iraq is presented as a kind of attack on ANSWER or criticism of January 18 or as indicative of a desire to keep ANSWER at a remove from the February 15 action.

    United for Peace and Justice is not an “alternative” to ANSWER but an attempt to build a broad, united network of antiwar forces, including ANSWER and anyone else who sees the need for broad united action.

    The Times’s attempt to disrupt and divide a young and growing movement needs to be firmly countered.

    Among other things, this requires, in my opinion, firm action by United for Peace and Justice to reach out to our sisters and brothers in ANSWER and involve them fully in the preparation and building of a united action. We have to take affirmative action right now to make it clear to ANSWER that they are not merely free to join the action—which they have already endorsed—but that we strongly desire their full participation at every level. A deliberate and conscious effort to reach out to ANSWER is also necessary to establish clearly in the public mind what UFPJ really is—an effort to strengthen the unity of the WHOLE antiwar movement—and also what it is not (a coalition of the, as far as I know nonexistent, “right wing” of the antiwar movement).

    I know that we aren’t going to fall for the New York Times bait. That goes without saying. But I think that we should counter the crude trap set for us by moving aggressively to advance the perspective of including ANSWER in a prominent, public, and, I might even say, defiant way in a genuinely and fully united action against the war on February 15.

    Two standards by Dimocrats, one for rallies they like and another for rallies they don’t like. A “young and growing movement” also applies to Tea Parties.

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