Big Pink: Lessons For Liberals

Hopium addled addicts angry at our analysis aimed at the Obama “budget overview” awoke in agony.

In Obama Budget: Sleeveless, Clueless, Truthless, Hopeless, Penniless we began our critique of the Obama “budget overview”. This morning at the grey buttressed Cathedral of the High Church of Obama – The New York TimesArchbishoprick Frank Rich stopped blurring the line between fact and fiction and essentially agreed with our puncture of the “honest” Obama “budget overview”.

Frank Rich, formerly the drama critic of the New York Times used to have the ability to say truths such as “outlaws come in the cameleon guises”. But that was before Frank Rich took vows and assumed the mitre of the Archbishoprick in the High Church of Obama.

Today though, for a few paragraphs, drama critic Rich is back to examine the Obama Drama:

The genuine populist rage in the country — aimed at greedy C.E.O.’s, not at the busted homeowners mocked as “losers” by Santelli — cannot be ignored or finessed. Though Obama was crystal clear on Tuesday that there can be “no real recovery unless we clean up the credit crisis,” it was telling that he got fuzzy when he came to what he might do about it. He waited two days to drop that shoe in his budget: a potential $750 billion in banking “asset purchases” on top of the previous $700 billion bailout.

Therein lies the Catch-22 that could bring the recovery down. As Obama said, we can’t move forward without a functioning financial system. But voters of both parties will demand that their congressmen reject another costly rescue of it. Americans still don’t understand why many Wall Street malefactors remain in place or why the administration’s dithering banking policy lacks the boldness and clarity of Obama’s rhetoric.

Nor can a further bailout be easily sold by a Treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, whose lax oversight of the guilty banks while at the New York Fed remains a subject of journalistic inquiry. In a damning 5,600-word article from Bloomberg last week, he is portrayed as a second banana, a timid protégé of the old boys who got us into this disaster. Everyone testifies to Geithner’s brilliance, but Jindal, a Rhodes scholar, was similarly hyped. Like the Louisiana governor, the Treasury secretary is a weak public speaker not because he lacks brains or vocal training but because his message doesn’t fly.

Among the highlights of Obama’s triumphant speech was his own populist jeremiad about the “fancy drapes” and private jets of Wall Street. But talk is not action. Two days later, as ABC News reported, the president of taxpayer- supported Bank of America took a private jet to New York to stonewall Andrew Cuomo’s inquest into $3.6 billion of suspect bonuses.

Handing more public money to the reckless banks that invented this culture and stuck us with the wreckage is the new third rail of American politics. If Obama doesn’t forge a better plan, neither his immense popularity nor even political foes as laughable as Jindal can insulate him from getting burned.

Archbishoprick Rich on the economy declares Obama “fuzzy when he came to what he might do about it“. This echoes our own With Obama all we hear is lots of hopey words, a lot of “fill in the blank slate”, but little explanation of what all the plans for the economy actually are.

We repeatedly opposed the bailouts and only now does Archbishoprick Rich acknowledge we were correct, or at the very least within majority opinion, in our opposition.

How many times have we repeated that talk is cheap and that, quoting Rich, “talk is not action”.

Archbishoprick Rich, like us, rejects the bogus $250 billion number in the Obama “budget overview” and rightly agrees with us the actual number is $750 billion in future bank bailouts.

Unlike Archbishoprick Rich we did not in any way say anything about Obama “getting burned” because we know such code language is “racist” when directed at the inexperienced and unqualifed Barack Obama. However we did write that “The economy needs a clearly explained and accepted practical plan for economic recovery and sustained growth“. In agreeing with us, Archbishoprick Rich has become an apostate in the High Church of Obama.

* * *

Yesterday the New York Times began to catch up to our analysis of the Obama “budget overview” when it wrote,

The economy is spiraling down at an accelerating pace, threatening to undermine the Obama administration’s spending plans, which anticipate vigorous rates of growth in years to come.

A sense of disconnect between the projections by the White House and the grim realities of everyday American life was enhanced on Friday, as the Commerce Department gave a harsher assessment for the last three months of 2008.

* * *

For Democrats and for Liberals, a group we consider ourselves a part of, there are lessons to be learned. The lessons to be learned come from Republicans. As we have written, “We real Democrats opposed and mocked Republicans who worshipped George W. Bush. We real Democrats oppose and mock Democrats turned Dimocrats, PINO Big Blogs, who are mirror images of hypocrite Republicans“.

As we have written, Obama’s People are the mirror image of Bush’s People.

What is that mirror image? Let Democrats and Liberals look to the Republicans to see their reflection:

Did the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Savages, and Ingrahams lead us to this sorry state of affairs?

They surely did. At the very least, by yoking themselves to the clueless George W. Bush and his free-spending administration, they helped create the great debt bubble that has now burst so spectacularly. The big names, too, were all uncritical of the decade-long (at least) efforts to “build democracy” in no-account nations with politically primitive populations. Sean Hannity called the Iraq War a “massive success,” and in January 2008 deemed the U.S. economy “phenomenal.”

We do not quote from that essentially silly article to endorse its prescriptions or analysis of the effect of talk radio and its Republican/conservative personalities. The value of the excerpt is in noting how the blind loyalty not to principles but to a man, in this case George W. Bush, have laid the Republicans low.

Democrats, Liberals, and the newly minted Dimocrats ignore Republican history at the peril of repeating their errors. Democrats, Liberals, and Dimocrats should analyze Obama initiatives, proposals and budgets with the same intellectual honesty and critical faculties which would be applied to George W. Bush initiatives, proposals and budgets.

* * *

Obama’s resurrection of the cadaver of anthropomorphist George H.W. Bush’s “Rosy Scenario” in his dishonest “budget overview” will not alter the essential ugly facts we have outlined.

Obama’s Potemkin “budget overview” founded as it is on gimmicks and assumptions for a mid-2009 economic rebound which color the entire Sleeveless, Clueless, Truthless, Hopeless, and Penniless enterprise will not change the basic economic facts.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett predicted Saturday that “the nation’s economy will be in shambles throughout 2009” and probably “well beyond.”

In his annual letter to Berkshire Hathaway Inc. shareholders, Buffett said the credit crisis and falling housing and stock prices have led to “paralyzing fear.”

We recall late last year Warren Buffett was a cheerleader for the economy who invested $5 billion in Goldman Sachs on September 24, 2008, and $3 billion in General Electric on October 1, 2008. We expect Buffett has now learned that Hope is not a strategy.

In trendsetting California, one fifth of the American economy, the economic news is bad no matter how many rosy scenarios Obama paints nor how much Hopium the state injests,

Unemployment in California shot up to its highest level in nearly 26 years in January, leaving more than 1 in 10 workers without a job.

Figures released Friday show that 79,300 jobs were lost in the state last month, bringing the total number of unemployed to 1,863,000, or 10.1% of the workforce. That’s the highest since the rate touched 10.4% in 1983.

California unemployment rate reaches 10….Conditions are even worse in Los Angeles County, which saw its unemployment rate jump to 10.5% in January from 9.2% the month before.

According to a photo essay in the L.A. Times listing announced nationwide layoffs company by company, thus far in 2009 389,778 jobs have been lost.

Instead of accepting a complicit and compliant Big Media analysis of “honest” Obama and the Obama “budget overview” Democrats must exercise their critical faculties. They will agree with our view of the Obama “budget overview”.

That’s the Big Pink Lesson for Liberals.

Share

153 thoughts on “Big Pink: Lessons For Liberals

  1. A Pink jacket on a blue Sunday morning – “can’t even buy a little present, I’m much too broke I find…”

  2. Her delivery reminds me a lot of Frank S for some reason. Thanks I had fogotten how really good she was.

  3. If the Dims fostered this downturn fear in the economy, it will be interesting to see if and how they pull us out. As usual, I think economics is a study of history. With the fear we see now, it takes a bold leader that people and tha wall street believes in to pull us out of this.

    Buffet put his faith in the party, not realizing that you have to have the right leaders. How many Dim leaders have we had in the past that did not work out. The only one lately was BC. Had Hillary been placed in charge, we could have built off of that confidence. I don’t want to take anything from HRC, as she is better than BC. However, in a terrible economic situation, you take all the help you can get.

    Buffet choose Party over Country.

  4. Nice work, admin.

    Hey, it was just a day or so that Obama’s “Grand Plans for Iraq Withdrawl” were made public, and even mainstream TV news were able to spot the obvious, that Obama’s plans to leave 50,000 training and support people in Iraq indefinitely, for all the reasons that have been discussed here, go against his campaign to get every single last soldier out of Iraq in 16 months.

    But I don’t recall any discussion on this topic. Main thing is, this was from the liberals’ point of view, THE SINGLE REASON WHY OBAMA WAS BY FAR MUCH BETTER THAN HILLARY, because of his PRINCIPLED VIEWS ABOUT GETTING OUT OF IRAQ IMMEDIATELY, and his PRINCIPLED VIEWS IN 2002 AGAINST GOING INTO IRAQ (although as Senator, he turned squishy and “realistic”.)

  5. MoDo Happy with Obama’s breaking of his campaign pledge about what to do about Iraq (pull out, but leave lots of sperm), and Afghanistan (Insert!).

    nytimes.com/2009/03/01/opinion/01dowd.html?_r=1

    Now if Hillary was implementing this, would she be grousing, “If only we had elected Obama, we could have had a 100% pullout in 16 months. With Hillary as POTUS, we’re going to be there essentially endlessly, under the guise of keeping “peacekeepers” and “training personnel” there to “stabilize” the situation.”

    Yes, MoDO, you are a State Mouthpiece for a little dictator.

  6. Off topic but did anyone see Rush Limbaugh on Fox/CNN yesterday giving an address to CPAC? I’m no fan of the guy but I think he gave the most rousing speech in defense of conservative values than any politician currently on his political side of the aisle. Much better than Jindals response to Obama’s speech. Perhaps there is a reason Obama wants to take on Rush via the fairness doctrine…like him or not he can be very articulate..

    I don’t like or agree with some of the things Limbaugh said at CPAC but I have to admit there were least a few things that I thought were right on the money…

  7. I find Rush highly entertaining as well as occasionally very informative.

    His speech yesterday was brilliant.

  8. AmericanGal:

    I think that many of us here at Big Pink are left-leaning centrists. Like Hillary, we strive for the ideal in an imperfect world that requires compromise.

    We are bookended by the Limbaughs of the world on the right, and the wild-eyed Left, who got suckered into thinking Obama was “one of them”. He’s not. He’s a user, a sellout. Whatever is the least path of resistance to advance his personal goals, is the rout he takes. But the Lefties think, “Oooh, my, my Hero”.

    Idiots. We already know what bad new Obama is. Repubs like Rush are more than happy to point out the major flaws that Obama is, so we’ll agree with him when he’s right, even if he has a long track record of being a douche bag.

  9. obama and his criminal mob lied…lied…lied about everything during the primaries in order to win. He bloodied Hillary’s beliefs, stole her ideas, labeled her everything from racist to ridiculous, and now is taking great pride in his “selective memories” to implement her policies as his own.

  10. One interesting note, during that speech he said something in regards to Hillary…of course the crowd booed. But then it looked like Limbaugh suddenly had second thoughts and didn’t want to go there…he quickly went on to another topic..

    It was an interesting moment..I know Limbaugh was actually a little on Hillary’s side during the primary…not sure if this was a moment where he just decided not to get into Clinton administration bashing since he was focused on Obama or if he just didn’t feel like battering our girl at that moment…

    Maybe I’m just reading too much into it…..LOL…

  11. KEEPING UP WITH BERG AT OBAMACRIMES.COM

    02/24/09: PRESS RELEASE – Berg on Michael Savage Nation – and Status of Three [3] Pending Cases

    (Contact information and PDF at end)

    (Lafayette Hill, PA – 02/24/09) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of Constitutional “qualifications/eligibility” to serve as President of the United States and his cases that are still pending, Berg vs. Obama [2 cases – 1 under seal] and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama announced today that he will be on Michael Savage Nation tonight at 6:30 p.m. E.S.T.

    Berg stated, “I am thrilled to be on Savage Nation as Michael Savage has a widespread audience [10 million listeners who tune into Savage each week – on WOR in New York, KNEW in San Francisco, WKRO in Boston, or hundreds of other stations nationwide] and Michael asks the tough questions. The last time I appeared our dialogue regarding Obama was so great that I turned out to be the longest guest ever, being on for 1 ½ hours.

    My appearance will help in our efforts to spread the word as the major media continues to refuse to cover this story – the most significant story in the history of our country; the biggest “HOAX” perpetrated on the citizens of the United States in 230 years, since our nation was established. Obama must be legally removed from office.”

    Berg continued, “I believe that 10 to 15 million people are aware of the Obama ‘HOAX,’ and we must make 75 million people aware. When people are made aware of the Obama ‘HOAX,’ that Obama has not proven he is constitutionally ‘qualified/eligible’ to be President; that Obama has not produced his original (vault version) ‘Birth Certificate;’ that Obama has not produced legal documents to show he legally changed his name from his ‘adopted’ name of ‘Barry Soetoro’ from Indonesia; they will demand Obama be removed from his office of President of the United States.”

    Berg concluded, “I am proceeding for the 305 + million people in ‘our’ U.S.A., for ‘our’ forefathers and for the tens of thousands of men and women that have died and/or been maimed defending our Constitution, with our legal fight to prove that Obama is not constitutionally qualified/eligible to be President.”

    The following is an update on my three [3] pending cases regarding my challenge to Obama’s lack of qualifications/eligibility to be President.

    Also, I am preparing to file a 4th case – Quo Warranto [challenge person in office – that does not meet the qualifications].

    As you know, I was the first to legally raise the issue – having filed my lawsuit on August 21, 2008, before the DNC Convention

    Status of Cases:

    Berg vs. Obama, Third Circuit Court of Appeals No. 08 – 4340
    Berg filed Brief on 1/20/09
    Response Briefs from Obama, DNC and FEC filed on 2/17/09 (Appellees)
    This is the case that was dismissed in U.S. District Court, Eastern District of PA
    Judge Surrick dismissed for lack of “standing” by Philip J. Berg
    This is case that I bypassed Third Circuit to U.S. Supreme Court – where U.S. Supreme Court denied several Injunctions and to hear case.
    However, case is still alive in Third Circuit.

    Berg vs. Obama, U.S. District Court
    Case filed under seal on 11/07/08 – cannot be discussed
    Berg filed Motion to Unseal – decision pending.

    Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama,
    U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, No. 08-cv-02254
    Berg filed 1st Amended Complaint for Hollister on 2/09/09 after Soetoro/Obama and Biden filed Motion to Dismiss
    Berg also filed Response in Opposition to Motion to Dismiss
    This is the case of retired Air Force Colonel Hollister who is on lifetime Presidential recall.
    Hollister needs to know if recalled by Soetoro/Obama – must he obey an Order by a legal President or disobey the illegal Order by a Constitutionally ineligible/unqualified “Usurper” President

  12. Seriously, do the Obama people think that the Repubs, and now, centrists Dems who are not all gaga over Obama, won’t continue hammering away at his eligibility?

    Mr. Obama, have you provided a bona fide stamped version of your birth certificate? We know you haven’t because your attorneys have resisted that you do so.

    Do you think that if you ignore it, the issue will go away?

    Did the Repubs stop hassling Bill Clinton, with Gate-gate (Whitewater, this-gate, that-gate). Get used to it. Oh, and by the way, going after a sitting president, whether by legal means or by political satire (cartoons) is standard fare, nothing RACIST about it. If you didn’t want to spend every waking minute under a microscope, you would have considered the one job that is routinely the MOST critiqued, analyzed job in the world. You could have taken up any other professions, or if in politics, any other job. You asked for this. You’re going to get it.

  13. correction:

    you would NOT have considered TAKING the one job that is routinely the MOST critiqued,…

  14. Another stellar article, admin.

    On another topic,
    Anyone else hear that Mugabe of Zimbabwe is confiscating lands owned by whites?

    He also stressed that his controversial land reforms policy – launched nearly 10 years ago and involving the seizure of farms from whites for redistribution to landless blacks – would not be stopped.

    news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Mugabe-Speaking-At-His-85th-Birthday-Party-Vows-To-Seize-White-Owned-Farms/Article/200902415231690?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15231690_Mugabe%2C_Speaking_At_His_85th_Birthday_Party%2C_Vows_To_Seize_White-Owned_Farms

  15. NewMexicoFan, go to YouTube and search for Rush Limbaugh CPAC. People have posted the speech in segments and it’s well worth watching…

  16. The whole thing is also at Hotair.

    BTW,

    Another reason why the US should’t talk with extremist Muslims.
    (at yahoo)
    GROZNY, Russia – The bullnecked president of Chechnya emerged from afternoon prayers at the mosque and with chilling composure explained why seven young women who had been shot in the head deserved to die.

    Ramzan Kadyrov said the women, whose bodies were found dumped by the roadside, had “loose morals” and were rightfully shot by male relatives in honor killings.

    “If a woman runs around and if a man runs around with her, both of them are killed,” Kadyrov told journalists in the capital of this Russian republic.

  17. basil9 Says:

    March 1st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    —————————————-

    Why do human beings do such things? Why do they have so little value for other human beings? It breaks my heart to hear about those women.

    The moral conscience of so many continue to be tainted by the few who corrupt the power they have been given or have taken by force.

  18. Meet the Press has a much more interesting roundtable w/ the addition of Dee Dee Myers and Joe Scarborough – not smarter maybe, but much more interesting. Harold Ford and Mike Murphy rounded out the roundtable

    I don’t know if the old hands have all gone to the Caribbean until the Ides of March, are boycotting NBC, or Gregory has stopped inviting them.

  19. JanH

    People who make such decisions, give the orders, or carry them out do it for only two reasons: pressure from those more powerful or, as in most cases, an overwhelming sense of superiority.

  20. Admin:
    As we have written, Obama’s People are the mirror image of Bush’s People.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, I thought so too! The only difference is, we are caught in the middle of the power struggle between the elitist Bankers supporting Obama and the ‘out of power’ Republican Riff-Raff, the Bushes, Cheney affiliates and Rockefellers. The oil guzzling crew, holding on for dear life to their pipelines and drilling equipment.

    Be that as it may. We are the pawns in the middle, unwittingly supplying the money cataclysm advancing the goals of the elitist Bankers, while we have become programed with a Kinko mentality zeroxing these no-strings attached bail-outs and Stimulus gifts loaded with earmarks for Coal companies in the Cap and Trade shell game out of nothing but “FEAR”.

    When the CEO of one of the biggest Banks in the country receiving $63B in Bail-Out money, flys into NY under subpoena from the NY Attorney General for an accounting, thinks nothing of spending the people’s money recklessly riding ina luxury aircraft rather than respecting the life-line tossed to the Bank by the people; you’ve got to ask yourself, something is wrong with this picture. Why are they behaving in such a cavalier manner as if they don’t really care what we think?.

    If they don’t care, then why should we care if they fail or not? They’ve taken all our money, our jobs and our homes, our most valuable asset. What else is left? The only people worried about not getting “more” money are the World Bankers.

    The people in the UK are up in arms about this as well. Gordon Brown is putting on a good show of disgust but is hardly convincing, seeing he and his have been the tools used by the elitists to foster and advance this economic crisis.

    In short… the game is being played on both sides. And we are the dumb and blind refusing to see what is before our eyes.
    Here is a historical summary demonstrating the power of money and it’s manipulative use for power and control in these political gang wars. Where it comes from and where it’s going.

    “For our purposes. the concentration of control over financial resources started with the Industrial Revolution. The 18th century saw the emergence and rapid rise of the House of Rothschild – the largest and most powerful financial empire – built on money embezzled by Mayer Amschel Bauer (later Rothschild) from William IV, who had stolen it from the soldiers he had hired out to the British government to fight Napoleon’s armies. Rothschild sent the money to England, bought vast quantities of gold from the East Indian Company, used this to finance the Duke of Wellington’s exploits and, working through the Brotherhood network, manipulated governments and created wars and revolutions. ***He lent money to both sides of the conflicts in what became a standard practice of the banking elite.*** Rothschild’s influence can hardly be overstated, for it was the precursor of today’s vast transnational corporations and banking empires which have extended their control to the four corners of Earth in the long-term agenda of the Brotherhood.”

    http //www dot hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine/vol4/elite.shtml
    Everyday it should become more evident why Hillary was stonewalled out of the democratic nomination. If you still don’t know, I’ll spell it out for you in blunt terms. Hillary couldn’t be bought by either side and tried her damnedest to win it on her own merits. She did- And you remember what happened with that, May 31st, the DNC making up their own rules regarding MI and FL…
    Hillary would have worked her hardest to “fix” this problem nevermind enlarging and accelerating it’s failure the way BO is doing. Something has to break soon in our favor because there is so much wrong with this picture.
    Macbeth (BO) and Machiavelli (the World Bankers) are at work here.

  21. a “sleeveless” ann coulter spoke at the CPAC gathering yesterday. she kept referring to MO as mary todd. do ya’ think AC is a fan of big pink? you can check it out on RCP’s video section.

  22. Emjay,

    The world keeps committing horrible crimes against humanity. They don’t seem to have learned from the lessons of the past. Senseless crimes like this make me ashamed.

    I don’t mean to sound overdramatic, but enough is enough.

  23. rgb44hrc Says:
    March 1st, 2009 at 11:55 am

    AmericanGal:

    I think that many of us here at Big Pink are left-leaning centrists.

    ===================

    Present.

  24. When an economy goes south, people stop spending and hoard hard goods. Today that is happening in a number of places including Texas. Carried to an extreme, hoarding also applies to the payment of taxes. That is the ultimate fear of the elites, that people will lose faith in the system, and no longer pay into it.

    I hope Mr Obama can give us a little more of his hopey changey rhetotic, put on his Abraham Licoln hat and beard, accept ten Nobel Prizes and preach to us why it is naughty for good boys and girls to hoard with able assistance of a teleprompter and the little groper. My echo, my shadow and me.

  25. The printed media is fast fading as we hear of the layoffs and the bankruptcy filings that are taking place.A very sad chapter in what had been our most reliable source of truth in politics.Greedy owners and spineless editors have lacked discipline in carefully demanding verification and truth from its once professional reporters.A sad but much needed state of affairs for a now corrupt beacon of light that guided us so well in the past. Todays papers resemble inserts rather than news pages.I stopped daily deliveries but still receive the sunday edition but that too is on my get rid of list.There have been statements put out by competitors that they are talking about sharing deliveries in many areas and in some cases stopping all home deliveries.Perhaps our bycotts are taking root and the advertisers realize that they are feeding a dead horse.That leaves us with constant stream of poison,spewed by swellheaded,rude,lying,pompous,obnoxious and degenerate talking heads.They too will be replaced by Obama supporters and cultist acorn choices and his legacy of Restitution plus Retribution will engulf our everyday lives.Their threats are real and and mounting.

    BY ABM90 So let us fight back NOW!

  26. ABM90

    We address this a couple of years ago. We were tired of the local rag giving us their point of view. One hang up was the schedule for the TV, but we got on line and solved that. now our Cable company, with a slilght upgrade (cheaper than newspapers) provides us with that. The junk mail coming with the papers was also getting to us.

    Now instead of getting a paper that is busy selecting what they think I should know, we are on line free to determine what we want to know. One one event or one issue, we can read both sides. We even look at what they say internationally. It gives us a much more well rounded view.

    Newspapers, and the major channel new have killed the hen that lays the golden egg. I will never forget the slant a CNN reporter, who I use to think was stoic gave me one time, in referring to how gracious O was in defeat, whereas HRC was not. of course this was totally someone elses opinion being rammed down my threat, and it was very subliminal. That was the day I turned off CNN. I now get my own news in areas I respect, and it is places that tell me the truth.

  27. “The power of the press belongs to him who owns one.”

    Lots of us can own blogs and websites, thus lots of different fact-checkers out there.

  28. MARCH 1, 2009,

    Obama to Sign Spending Bill With Earmarks

    By BRODY MULLINS
    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will sign a $410 billion government-spending bill, even though it includes thousands of the spending “earmarks” that he had criticized on the campaign trail, a top White House aide said. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, speaking on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, said the president wasn’t happy with the 9,000-or-so earmarks that lawmakers added to the legislation. But “this is last year’s business,” Mr. Emanuel said, adding that Mr. Obama would sign the bill, once it is approved by Congress.
    Mr. Emanuel said Mr. Obama succeeded in preventing lawmakers from adding a single earmark to the recently passed, $787 billion economic-stimulus package. He also praised Congress for requiring more disclosure about the authors of earmarks in the spending bill. “The most important thing to do is to be transparent and accountable,” he said.

    The number of earmarks has risen dramatically in the last few years, drawing criticism from those who say the provisions are wasteful and divert money from other projects. The House approved the $410 billion spending bill last week to fund government operations through fiscal 2009, which ends in October. The legislation includes large increases in spending for health care, education and alternative energy. Overall, it would increase spending by nearly 9% over the previous fiscal year.
    Congress had failed to pass a spending bill last year after Democrats and former President George Bush were unable to reach a compromise. The Senate is expected to approve the legislation this week.

    Republicans criticized the increased spending and what they described as the legislation’s abundance of earmarks, which account for $3.8 billion of the omnibus. Rep. Eric Cantor (R., Va.), speaking on ABC’s “This Week,” said the “fact that there are 9,000 earmarks in this bill and the fact that the vetting process just doesn’t take place the way it should — we ought to stand up and draw the line right now and stop the waste.” Top congressional Republicans also took aim at President Barack Obama’s $3.6-trillion budget on Sunday, saying it would raise taxes during a recession, unfairly redistribute wealth and add greatly to the deficit. Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl, the second-ranking Senate Republican, told “Fox News Sunday” that the fiscal year 2010 budget is “terrifying” in its policy proposals and “mind-boggling in the numbers.” Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, said on the same program that Mr. Obama’s budget proposes the biggest change in the relationship between the government and the economy since the New Deal. “It’s almost as if we are relocating the headquarters of the economy…to Washington, D.C.,” Mr. Ryan said.
    Neither Republican leader expressed confidence, however, that the GOP could block Mr. Obama’s budget from passing Congress. “You can’t stop this in the House,” Mr. Ryan said, and “it’s going to be very difficult to stop in the Senate.”

    the rest of the article…

    online.wsj.com/article/SB123592142217703383.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    ————————–

    More lies from obama & Mr. Emanuel, I am deeply disappointed in you.

  29. JanH Says:
    March 1st, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    MARCH 1, 2009,

    Obama to Sign Spending Bill With Earmarks

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yup, Republicans criticize it but they are all on the gravy train in one way or another. Thats the way the gravy train works satisfying both sides to accomplish the advancement of the powerful elite.

  30. news.aol.com/main/obama-presidency/article/the-birthers-obama-conspiracy-theory/363461

    hs but no w.

    The headline here are AOL says that The Birthers continue to Hound O. Amazing. All he has to do it produce the docment with the Officials testifying it is OK. Instead he has spent 1/2M not to have to produce it.

    What about a title like: O Continues to Ignore the Constitution, in his unwillingness to produce legal birth document.

  31. Admin: have I told you lately that I love you-towit:

    In Obama Budget: Sleeveless, Clueless, Truthless, Hopeless, Penniless

    Very nice alliteration, with the added advantage of being true.

  32. Admin: its a goldfield you have given us this morning and I missed this nugget the first time:

    Archbishoprick Frank Rich

    or maybe just prick for short.

  33. When you deal in lies and deception like the NYT does pretty soon you dont know who you are. As a result you miss the truth until it hits you in the head like a 2×4. That is what is happening now to them. And now they are likely to overreact the other way to make up for it, which is equally bad.

  34. newmexifan:

    Buffet chose party over country!

    —–

    Yes…Buffet chose PARTY over COUNTRY! Buffet chose OBAMA over HIS SHAREHOLDER’s interest when he invested in Goldman Sachs, GE etc etc…

    Buffet is no longer an ORACLE!!!!!!

  35. ArchbishoPRICK FrankLESS RichMORE
    —-

    After all frank Rich is more richer even in these times….by stabbbing people in the back!!!!

  36. rgb44hrc Says:
    March 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    KEEPING UP WITH BERG AT OBAMACRIMES.COM

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Berg is defiantly a modern day PATRIOT aka.. unwavering pitbull for putting his very life on the line for us. He’s not giving up and remains as adamant as ever in pursuing the would be president. (part of The Chicago Combine) Berg {{hugs}}

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Did the Repubs stop hassling Bill Clinton, with Gate-gate (Whitewater, this-gate, that-gate). Get used to it. Oh, and by the way, going after a sitting president, whether by legal means or by political satire (cartoons) is standard fare, nothing RACIST about it. If you didn’t want to spend every waking minute under a microscope, you would have considered the one job that is routinely the MOST critiqued, analyzed job in the world. You could have taken up any other professions, or if in politics, any other job. You asked for this. You’re going to get it.”
    nope, yep, nope, yep, yep, yep and yeppers, “you’re going to get it.”

  37. obama is guilty by omission. If it wasn’t a big deal he would have given his real birth certificate up at the very start. He hasn’t.

    What is an even bigger crime is those in government and law enforcement have allowed this farce to go on for as long as it has. No way in hell should he have become the dims wunderkind, at Hillary’s expense, without clarifying this mess. They are just as guilty for obstructing the law and abetting this criminal to defraud the American people.

  38. What I’ve found interesting, JanH.. Is the people you talk to in Union jobs are sworn to loyalty voting for Obama by order of their Union Bosses. By consensus, (frequenting the local Pubs) they think we’re crazy for not supporting Obama. They have been brainwashed and guaranteed protection of their jobs before the elections by their superiors per Obama.

    Most of them have been layed off or soon will be because construction projects have been on hold since December.

  39. Mrs. Smith,

    I do feel sorry for them, but not in as much as what their support of this monster has done to the country and the rest of the world. They can’t very well say: “but we didn’t know…how could we know?”

    They turned a blind eye and the rest of us are paying for it.

  40. Hillary arrives in Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheikh for donor conference on Gaza

    2009-03-02

    SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt, March 1 (Xinhua) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in Egypt’s Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh late Sunday to attend an international donor conference for Gaza reconstruction.

    This is Clinton’s first trip to the Middle East as the secretary of state, during which she will visit Israel and meet with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank after the Gaza aid conference to be opened in Sharm el-Sheikh on Monday. It was reported that Clinton is expected to announce a U.S. donation of up to 900 million U.S. dollars for the Palestinians in their Gaza reconstruction.

    Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said earlier that Clinton will meet with Abbas right after the Sharm el-Sheikh donors conference. “The talks with Clinton would tackle the program of the Israeli government,” Erekat said, adding if the Israeli government will not be committed to the Palestinian demands, “it will not be considered as a peace partner. This is what we will ask from the new American Administration.”

    news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/02/content_10924575.htm

  41. JanH Says:
    March 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    My sentiments exactly. Believe me, I get sick of cleaning up the messes made by other people. It’s still difficult communicating with former Edwards and Biden supporters. They are as problematic as the Obama supporters in some respects. Why? Because they think they know it all and continue distracting the newcomers with nuance issues rather than focusing on the malignancy sitting in the WH.

    Believe me when I say, this is the only blog worth reading and post at. It’s the only place the focus remains undeterred from the problem at hand. I do have my soft spots for relevant informational blogs such as Pumas Unleashed and Hillary Unleashed. For that reason I stay tuned in to what is posted there as well.

  42. Clinton Lands in Middle East With $900 Million in Aid

    By Viola Gienger and Daniel Williams

    March 1 (Bloomberg) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, arriving in Egypt late today, prepared to announce more than $900 million in aid to the Palestinians as she wades into the Middle East conflict that President Barack Obama has made an early diplomatic priority. Clinton will join Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, other Arab leaders and European officials tomorrow at a conference to raise money for rebuilding the war-damaged Gaza Strip. A 22-day conflict between Israel and the militant Islamic Hamas movement devastated the coastal enclave.

    None of the funds will go to Hamas, which is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. and Israel, State Department spokesman Robert Wood told reporters in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, the location for the conference on Gaza. “Hamas is not getting any of this money,” Wood said. “We also want to make sure we are giving support to the” Palestinian Authority, he said. About two-thirds of the money is going to the West Bank, Wood said. The West Bank is controlled by Hamas rival Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority. Abbas is engaged with Israel in peace talks, which Hamas opposes.

    The Obama administration is seeking to strengthen Abbas while shunning Hamas. About $200 million will provide direct support for Palestinian Authority expenses such as salaries, and $400 million is allotted for projects the authority identifies as priorities, Wood said. The U.S. will give $300 million for humanitarian aid in Gaza, to be delivered through the United Nations and other non- profit organizations not linked with Hamas, Wood said.

    In the wake of the conflict in Gaza, Obama is trying to revive peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians in a broader effort to stabilize the Middle East. Arab countries including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are seeking to broker accords to end conflicts such as the standoff between Israel and Syria.
    “Not only do we want to address the needs, the very real needs, in the Gaza Strip, but we also want to move forward toward that comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace that President Obama talked about,” Jeffrey Feltman, acting assistant secretary of state for Near East affairs, said in Washington before the trip.

    The conference will be an opportunity for Clinton to meet many of her regional counterparts that she hasn’t met in Washington since taking office in January. Events will include a meeting on the sidelines for the so-called Quartet of Middle East peace negotiators, which includes the U.S., the European Union, the United Nations and Russia. Middle East special envoy George Mitchell will also attend the gathering in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

    Israel ended on Jan. 18 an air, land and sea assault on Gaza aimed at stopping rocket attacks on Israeli communities by militants in the Hamas-ruled enclave. Hamas is regarded as a terrorist organization by the U.S. and Israel.

    Clinton made no public comments during the flight from Washington or upon arrival. She told Voice of America radio earlier that she would make a significant aid pledge for Gaza that wouldn’t benefit Hamas, the U.S. government-funded news service said on its Web site.

    Seventy-five countries and international organizations are attending the conference, which is being co-chaired by Egypt and Norway. Saudi Arabia has promised $1 billion in aid and the European Union, another $552 million.
    The European contribution will go in part toward humanitarian aid and early recovery work such as removing rubble and unexploded ordinance and caring for traumatized children. In the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the U.S. Agency for International Development’s budget for the West Bank and Gaza was $389 million, including $150 million to fund Palestinian Authority expenses such as salaries.

    The World Bank today urged donor countries to channel funds for rebuilding Gaza through the Palestinian Authority and five local organizations with “proven capacity” to undertake projects. The groups aren’t linked to Hamas, which won 2006 parliamentary elections across Gaza and the West Bank and then ousted Abbas’s Fatah party from Gaza in 2007, dividing Palestinian governance.
    The Bush administration declined to deal with Hamas. Clinton, in remarks to the Voice of America on Feb. 27, suggested President Obama will follow the same course by applying conditions for engagement with Hamas that Bush also required.

    While not rejecting a future Abbas-Hamas coalition government, Clinton said the Islamic group must “renounce violence, recognize Israel and abide by previous commitments” made by Abbas and his predecessor, Yasser Arafat. Hamas has so far refused the three conditions. Clinton will travel next to Jerusalem and the Palestinian headquarters of Ramallah in the West Bank. There she’ll meet with current governing officials as well as Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Likud party leader asked to form the next Israeli government after elections last month.
    Clinton will then shift to European issues as she heads to Brussels, where she will participate for the first time as the top U.S. diplomat in a meeting of NATO foreign ministers on March 5. They will be preparing for a summit of North Atlantic Treaty Organization leaders in April that will mark the alliance’s 60th anniversary. In Brussels, Clinton is scheduled to meet separately with European Union officials, before going on to Geneva to confer with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. She will also visit Turkish officials in Ankara.

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aQttY1R_1Bss&refer=home

  43. Borrowing from the Chinese to donate to the Palestinians…. There’s globalization for you.

  44. Video of Hillary arriving. Love her coat!

    allthingshillaryclinton.blogspot.com/2009/03/middle-east-and-erope-trip-arrival-in.html#comments

  45. Mrs Smith wrote re Unions: Most of them have been layed off or soon will be because construction projects have been on hold since December.

    I’ve long been of the opinion that because of the nature of the product it offers, as Vegas goes, so goes the economy. I think it was incredibly short sighted of The One spitefully? to target Vegas. I can’t help but think that it was because the city’s workers went against the wishes of union bosses and chose Hillary in the primaries.

  46. Has anyone else noticed that the 3rd stop on Hillary’s itinerary is missing? My guess is security issues/planning.

  47. newmexifan:

    Buffet chose party over country!

    —–

    Greenspan, Buffet and Maddow–

    To quote the wisdom of the Oracle of Omahahaha: “Everyone looks good when the tide is in. It’s only when the tide goes out that you discover who is swimming with a bathing suit”, or in Rachelmaddogs case playing with a full deck.

    MY ECHO MY SHADOW AND ME
    (A Tragedy In Four Acts)

    Dramatis Personae

    My Echo: A Sony Telepromter

    My Shadow: The Little Groper

    And Me: Mr Obama

    Musical Accompanyment

    The Inkspots

    Lead Song: There’s No Bullshit Like Bot Bullshit

    Even with a turkey that you know will fold
    You’ll still be standing out in the cold
    Still you wouldnt trade it for a pot of gold
    Lets go on with the show

  48. Wbboei, Archbishoprick is not our creation. We linked to the origin of the word. It’s from Moby Dick.

  49. Exciting to see Hillary in the middle east. Bill tried so hard to achieve a practical, lasting, and even handed peace agreement. Israel, via Ehud Barak, at the time, was willing to make concessions that were at one time unthinkable. Sadly, the corrupt Arafat , actually “cornered” into peace, realized that his “gig” would be up, as did the other Arab/Muslim leader, who could no longer teach their children that Jews were the cause of all the world’s ill. I fully expect and understand that Hillary will say things that I may not completely agree with, but I know she has Israel’s survival first and foremost in her heart. While there is no doubting BO’s strong affinity for Arabs/Muslims, he must even realize that abandoning the US tradition of strong suppot for Israel is not only morally wrong, but could very well effect his re-election ambitions. Good luck and godspeed toHillary.

  50. Alcina, we did not hear Coulter using “Mary Todd”. As far as we know we are the first and only ones to refer to Michelle as “Mary Todd”. We googled and have found no other similar usage anywhere else. You might be right that Coulter picked it up here.

  51. The videos and photos of Hillary in action show the happiest and fullfiling days of her life as we see that beautiful smile.It reflects the wisdom of her judgement to resist the critics and serve her country and our allies around the world.She is so easy on the eyes and that is a disarming element that no other political figure friend or foe can resist or ignore.She brings light sincerity to a dark atmoshpere that has engulfed the world since the messiah was presented with the presidency
    on a platter of racial fears.

    By ABM90 Go Madam Secretary show the world the magic that you do so well.

  52. Budget Chief: Obama Will Sign Spending Bill

    WASHINGTON — The White House on Sunday downplayed massive deficit spending and President Obama’s pledge not to sign legislation laden with billions in earmarks amid Republican criticism that he was recanting on a key campaign promise.

    The administration’s top budget official, Peter Orszag, said Obama would sign the $410 billion spending bill despite a campaign pledge that he would reject tailored budget requests that let lawmakers send money to their home states. Orszag said Obama would move ahead and overlook the time-tested tradition that lets officials divert millions at a time to pet projects.

    It was the Washington equivalent of officials pinching their nose and swallowing a bitter pill.

    “This is last year’s business,” Orszag said, offering an acknowledgment that Obama would sign a bill that doesn’t conform with his campaign vows. “We want to just move on. Let’s get this bill done, get it into law and move forward.”

    White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel offered mirrored language: “That’s last year’s business.”

    The House last week passed the measure that would keep the government open for business through Sept. 30, when the federal budget year ends. Taxpayers for Common Sense, a watchdog group, identified almost 8,600 earmarks totaling $7.7 billion; Democrats say the number is $3.8 billion.

    Regardless of the precise number, it was still far more than Obama promised as a candidate. He refused earmarks for the economic stimulus package he championed, as well as a children’s health bill.

    “We’re going to be working with the Congress. We want to make sure that earmarks are reduced and they’re also transparent. We’re going to work with the Congress on a set of reforms to achieve those,” said Orszag, who is director of the Office of Management and Budget.

    Obama’s top hands assigned responsibility to their predecessors and President George W. Bush.

    By blaming Bush-era proposals for deficits, Obama wanted to set up his own budget, which he unveiled last week with a bold proposal to cut the deficit by half within his four-year term with the budget that would start Oct. 1.

    “First, this is a $1.7 trillion deficit he inherited. Let’s be clear about that. We inherited this deficit and we inherited $4 trillion of new debt,” Emanuel said. “That is the facts.”

    Facts, aides said, would be the cornerstone of the administration’s public relations push. Officials faced a tough haul, even as Orszag and others said the proposal would raise taxes on wealthy Americans and increase energy costs.

    Emanuel said energy costs are too low, anyway. U.S. car companies relied too long on gas-guzzling autos and failed to invest in alternative energy vehicles, he said, and contended that the time for new auto fuels is now.

    “They never invested in both alternative energy cars. They got dependent on big gas guzzlers. They didn’t do — they have a health care cost structure that’s outdated,” Emanuel said, repeating the administration’s premise that health costs must come under control or else risk breaking all other pieces of the budget.

    Republicans were not persuaded. Rep. Eric Cantor, the GOP’s No. 2 in the House, said Obama was failing on his promises.

    “Listen, I mean, the president was elected by the people of this country to institute change in Washington and to finally demand a federal government that is accountable to the people,” he said. “The fact that there are 9,000 earmarks in this bill and the fact that the vetting process just doesn’t take place the way it should, we ought to stand up and draw the line right now and stop the waste.”

    Orszag and Cantor appeared on ABC’s “This Week.” Emanuel spoke on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

  53. Irishtimes.Com also reports on Hillary’s trip to the Middle East:

    irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0302/1224242084627.html

  54. Good Evening Everyone!!

    well……….what a week!!

    just got home from 4 days in sioux falls staying in a hotel for our year end South Dakota Dart Tournaments…my first time there..wow it was huge and FUN!!

    Anyways…. my team and I took 9th place (in the money for the first time) out of 50 or so teams and are jazzed over it.

    I did manage to watch Rush on CPAC and I thought he was brilliant, funny and spot on

    I know most of you probably don’t like rush as some have already stated here today, but i must confess to listening to him
    often and although i do not like at all the way he and others talk about the clintons I am able to look past it enough to recognize
    how right he was about everything else regarding the dimocrats. and i found myself shouting and cheering him on as if it was
    a football game and he was about to make yet another touchdown!!

    I believe Rush loves this country and is really frightened and angered by what the dimocrats (and some republicans) are doing our country….in fact he said just that last night…… he did make reference to those way ward republicans, all though not by name in his speech last night.

    from that i see rush as a patriot A TRUE AMERICAN… not a republican, not a democrat but more as a modern day Benjamin Franklin American

  55. UH OH…….

    Buildings sprang up as donations rained down on Bronx Borough President Adolfo Carrion

    BY Benjamin Lesser and Greg B. Smith
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

    Updated Sunday, March 1st 2009, 1:35 PM

    The man who is President Obama’s newly minted urban czar pocketed thousands of dollars in campaign cash from city developers whose projects he approved or funded with taxpayers’ money, a Daily News probe found.

    Bronx Borough President Adolfo Carrion often received contributions just before or after he sponsored money for projects or approved important zoning changes, records show.

    Most donations were organized and well-timed.

    nydailynews.com/ny_local/bronx/2009/02/28/2009-02-28_buildings_sprang_up_as_donations_rained_.html

  56. Wbboei, Archbishoprick is not our creation. We linked to the origin of the word. It’s from Moby Dick.
    —————–
    Admin: Then Melville must have know Frank Rich in a prior life.

  57. I fully expect and understand that Hillary will say things that I may not completely agree with, but I know she has Israel’s survival first and foremost in her heart
    ——————————
    100% correct.

  58. The following is from Warren Buffet and his report to investors:

    dailyfinance.com/2009/02/28/buffett-admits-dumb-investing-mistakes-in-2008-berkshires-wo/

    add h’s and w’s

    The economy undoubtedly played a big part in those results. Buffett doesn’t appear to expect an improvement any time soon.”The economy will be in shambles throughout 2009 – and, for that matter, probably well beyond,” he wrote.

    The shock therapy administered by the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve to revive the economy “will almost certainly bring on unwelcome aftereffects,” Buffett wrote. “Whatever the downsides may be, strong and immediate action by government was essential last year if the financial system was to avoid a total breakdown.”
    ————–
    If the economy is a shambles beyound 2009 it will be reflected in 2010 elections, and beyond. Regardless of who caused the slide, further slide will be attributed to the new administration.

    It is going to be interesting.

  59. AIG bribe or payback announced by the forty thieves,while the nation slept ,attended church or were busy worrying about the disaster created by the forked-tongue king of promises broken.
    Dean out and Sebilious in.Pay back is still his goal but Impeachment is what he can expect and it and the process must start soon.Is there anyone left in foggybottom with guts and some show of patriotism that will come forward and lead us to a solution from this darkest period in our history?

    BY ABM90 In his speech to the Marines last week he repeated twice the Marine slogan “Semper Fidelis “.We all know where our brave soldiers stand but what is BHO’s multiple choice answer? The U.S.? Kenya? Muslims? No one? We just do not know,do we.

  60. NewMexicoFan Says:

    March 1st, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    “If the economy is a shambles beyound 2009 it will be reflected in 2010 elections, and beyond.”

    ——————————–

    I sure hope so, but at the moment I’m not sure which party is the lesser of the two evils. They both have many black marks against them, however a congress that is more balanced would be the best scenario.

  61. From the Moscow Times:
    Monday, March 02, 2009
    By Nikolaus von Twickel

    Clinton, Lavrov Get a Stab at Resetting Ties

    The much discussed “reset” of troubled U.S.-Russia relations will kick off this week when U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meet for the first time.
    Lavrov and Clinton will see each other Monday at a donor’s conference for Gaza recovery hosted by Egypt at the resort of Sharm el-Sheikh. The two diplomats will meet again Friday in Geneva for the first official talks between Moscow and Washington since the administration of President Barack Obama took office in January. The meetings will be the second high-level personal contacts between the governments following talks by Vice President Joe Biden and Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov at the Munich Security Conference in February. Biden won praise from Ivanov when he said that the Obama administration would like to “press the reset button” in relations with Moscow.

    A senior U.S. diplomat said Friday that Obama’s administration was determined to keep the focus on the positive at the Geneva talks. “We’re all looking forward to the meeting between Secretary Clinton and Minister Lavrov,” Daniel Fried, the assistant secretary of state for European affairs, told reporters in Washington. “There have been letters between the leaders, between the foreign ministers, outlining a way forward and a positive agenda, and it is on that that we want to build, but with our eyes open about some of the differences we have.” Those differences, Fried said, include the United States’ refusal to recognize a Russian sphere of influence in neighboring countries or the independence of the breakaway Georgian regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, according to a transcript on the State Department’s web site. In addition, “each European country has a right to seek membership” in NATO, Fried said, in reference to Moscow’s hostility over Georgia’s and Ukraine’s bid to join the Western military alliance.

    Lavrov said Friday that the Geneva talks would focus on arms control issues, including a follow-on agreement to the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START I, which expires in December.
    Clinton and Lavrov will also discuss deeper cooperation in areas such as Afghanistan, the State Department said.
    Geneva is regarded as a neutral territory and hosts the headquarters of a string of UN agencies.

    Ties nosedived under the administration of President George W. Bush and sank to a post-Soviet low after Moscow’s brief invasion of Georgia last summer. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has cautiously noted positive signals from the new administration, and Obama and President Dmitry Medvedev are expected to meet for the first time on the sidelines of a Group of 20 summit in London on April 2.

    The Foreign Ministry made it clear that Monday’s conference in Egypt would focus on the Middle East and not be a place for bilateral talks. “You must not call this a meeting [between Clinton and Lavrov] but just a first personal contact,” ministry spokesman Igor Lyakin-Frolov told The Moscow Times on Friday. He said that to his knowledge, no special face-to-face meeting was planned because proper talks between the two would take place four days later. Lyakin-Frolov noted that Clinton and Lavrov have already spoken by telephone. In the conversation in early February, the two top diplomats agreed to work more closely on key strategic issues.

    Lavrov previously met Clinton during his tenure as ambassador to the United Nations when Clinton was first lady, the ministry spokesman said.

    Clinton, on her second foreign trip this week, will also visit Israel and the Palestinian territories and meet NATO and EU foreign ministers in Brussels before traveling to Geneva. Analysts said that while a breakthrough was unlikely, both sides had an interest in showing that the atmosphere was improving in relations. Nikolai Zlobin, analyst with the Washington-based World Security Institute, said Washington would try to cooperate because it wanted a new nuclear arms reduction treaty. “There is no reason for Washington to be hard on Russia,” Zlobin said. He also said Moscow’s attitude has been softened because of the deepening economic crisis. “The rhetoric has become much more flexible,” he said, adding that the country’s leadership had not issued any strong criticism of Washington since Obama took office.

    The Foreign Ministry last week took unusual pains to stress that the U.S. State Department’s annual human rights report, which was strongly critical of Russia, had been composed under the Bush administration. “We hope that the new administration will correct its approach to these reports,” the ministry said in a statement on its web site.
    Lavrov also refused on Thursday to comment on Washington’s decision to place Patriot missiles in Poland, arguing that Warsaw could choose its own partners for military-technical cooperation. “U.S. plans to place a missile defense shield in Poland are a different thing because they touch on our security,” Lavrov said, according to his ministry’s web site.

    The Obama administration has said that it will decide on the controversial missile defense plans only when it has proof that the shield will work. Medvedev said in an interview published Sunday that he expected to hear “specific proposals” from Obama on the planned missile shield when they meet next month. “I hope that during my first meeting with the U.S. President Barack Obama we’ll be able to discuss this issue, which is extremely important for Europe,” Medvedev said in an interview with Spanish media, according to a transcript on the Kremlin web site.

    themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/374885.htm

  62. Is the 900 million or so that we are pledging to help Gaza, contingent on Hamas stopping the attacks on Israel? Or are we going to help clean up Gaza while the rockets still rain down?

    It may be cold to withhold help, esp. for the children, but how else do you teach the ‘Palestinians’ that their support for Hamas and its aggression is extremely self-defeating?

    What we do now can either lower violence or set the scene for Round 2.

  63. Call me tuned into Warren Buffet’s head. 🙂

    My guess that the economy might rebound sooner than we think has been dashed against the rocks of these porky bills. I am now contemplating the possibility that if things keep deteriorating at the speed of light, my income will be $0 and I will be homeless.

    Meanwhile we will spend $200 million on tattoo removal.

  64. Today, it is Asian market dropping which causes US futures to drop which will cause the US stock market to drop which will cause the Asian to drop again etc in an unending loop.

    Far from an orderly decline, with the possibility of recovery, this has the feel of a collapse of a house of cards. There is a bottom to everything, including the Mariannas Trench–and it is only 36,000 feet down. So wheres bottom here and when will it bounce back everyone wonders.

    Globalization which was supposed to be a mechanism for spreading the financial risks of developing national and world wide peace and prosperity as in The End of History has by virtue of its unimpeded efficiencies become a force which compounds it until it echoes and reechoes across the globe. We all go down together.

    For example, I was at a Fryes computer shop yesterday, and the clerk told me he is from Cambodia there is no work there now because of the decline in the US economy.

    A navy ship is quardoned off into separate compartments. If a torpedo hits the ship you can dog the watertight hatches, seal off the affected area, and prevent the incoming seawater from sinking the ship. In other words there is a system to isolate the problem and maintain watertight integrity– without which the ship sinks and ends up in Davey Jones locker. There is no such system in place here, other than the ability to shut down trading temporarily to prevent a run.

    Which brings us to the subject of Mr Obama–a product of media hype and collective self delusion. The messiah, who was born under shrouded circumstances, cut his political teeth on the meanstreets of Chicago, a man of superior intelligence and a good man and great abs– as any delusional bot or big media thrill seeker (is there really any difference?) will tell you. He is the messiah–he will know what to do.

    Boy have they been right . . . . . .

    First, the first thing the Messiah did when he took office, after he stumbled throught the oath was to pass this thing off as a Republican problem–when in fact it is a bi partisan problem. Real estate drove the US economy, bad risks were assumed by lenders like Fanny May and Freddie Mack, those risks were bundled and passed off to the world as democrats in congress encouraged more of it.

    (Note: in our town, there was a story about a street vendor and his wife who was a hairdresser qualified for an $800,000 loan on a high rise. It was bound to end. In 1929 you knew you were in a bubble when shoe shine boys were handing out stock tips. The short of it is this a biparisan problem.)

    Second, he tried to pass it off as a problem he inherited. He is right in the sense that we are all victims of original sin, in one form or another. But there were critical point, weigh stations, call them what you will where he and his advisors made bad calls or just let nature take its course.

    The original bank bailout was a major transfer of wealth from American taxpayers to a group of people who had proven by their own actions to be corrupt, incompetent and in some cases both. They were rewarded rather than punished for their ponzi schemes and they showed their respect for the American People by squandering the moneys granted to them to fix the system on spendthrift ventures and personal aggradisement.

    Fucking Frank Rich always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to brains bemoans the fact that Mr Obama will find it harrrder to get the public to accept more bailouts for bankers. If Obama had been politically astute, he would have gone after some of his banker buddies to preempt that inevitable opposition to further bailouts. The policy arguments contained in the criminal law apply with equal force here–deterrence, retribution, isolation, etc/

    The stimulus bill was another example. This was the acid test of leadership and he flunked two material respects. One, the bill is a stark repudiation of his claim that he is a change agent–since it is fraught with pork–8000 earmarks geared to the election cycle. Two, it repeats the mistakes of Japan–the focus should on forcing banks to clean out bad assets. As a result he has no credibility with markets. A Nobel Prize and a trip to the moon will do nothing to change that.

    Yesterday, I went to a Tibet Buddahist ceremony. It was held at a sacred place in the mountains. The Master who presides over it has 600,000 followers throughout the world. He wore a traditional Tibetian costume of crimson and a vest with dragons. Two diamond rings on the middle fingers of each hand.

    There were roughly 100 Buddahist monks present–men and women with shaved heads. Crimson robes with gold trim. There were maybe 600 Buddahists as well who came in from the Pacific Northwest, and a few came in from as far away as Malasia and Hong Kong. Normally the number would be more like 4000 but the weather was bad.

    When he entered the temple everyone rose to their feet, he walked down the aisle and stopped before the great Buddah and bowed. He then took his place at the center of the stage, surrounded by monks and an ornamental framed structure and sat down. Pagentry and religious significance. It is at moments like these that you realize how lucky we are to have a diverse culture, despite the problems.

    He was handed a stack of papers from well followers and read each one individually and held it to is forehead nodded his head and blessed it. Then he turned to the great pit in front of him and lit a fire. As the fire burned, he threw incense into it for several minutes. The smell of it was like a clean forest and it wafted through the air for some time. Then he spent 10 minutes doing the most ornate correography with his hands, while Tibetian voices chanted in the background. The affect was hypnotic.

    Finally he delivered what we would call a sermon to the congregation. I was given an electronic device to listen in through an interpeter, since I was the only non-Asian in the group. He talked about how Zen Buddahism is difficult to understand, and there are many misconceptions about it.

    He said the hippies in San Francisco had grasped the concept of The Great Empty Space, but had used it to justify a life of no responsibility. He said space is indeed empty and human beings are by nature more inclined to embrace form as opposed to emptiness. But even in what we perceive as emptiness, there are invisible forces at work which can produce life and good once they are activated. He said if you adhere to Buddhaist principles then in seven lifetimes you will become a buddha as well. He concluded with a prayer that if calamity strikes that you are far from it.

    Then everyone rose and passed under a ladder which was festooned with colorful silk banners, and as you passed under them they brushed lightly against your forehead and the affect was pleasant. Then you went up on stage and the smoke from the dead fire poured out of the pit and you used your hands to draw the smoke to your head and face. Both rituals are done to clean your Karma.

    The ceremony described is a beautiful and sacred one. This master is a world religious leader. If I could draw a profane comparison to our politiical system it would be this: that our political parties–both of them need to clean their respective kamas and remember what they are there for. Other than Hillary and her congressional supporters, I have no faith that they will do what is right for the American People. And if they do not wise up, and consent to do their duty then we will not be far away when calamity strikes.

  65. mp Says:

    March 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
    dow under 7,000

    Obama = NO CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!

    ———————————————————————————————

    What is the bottom????????????????????? YIKES.

  66. Clinton calls for action to forge Mideast peace:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090302/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/ml_clinton_mideast

  67. “Far from an orderly decline, with the possibility of recovery, this has the feel of a collapse of a house of cards. There is a bottom to everything, including the Mariannas Trench–and it is only 36,000 feet down. So wheres bottom here and when will it bounce back everyone wonders.”

    ————————————–

    Scary stuff reminiscent of the horrors of the Great Depression and I don’t think it is anywhere near the finish line.

  68. Thanks Paula.

    “Clinton conducted a rapid-fire series of one-on-one meetings with Arab and other counterparts attending the conference.”

    ——————————-

    This one-woman-dynamo is amazing!

  69. hillaryis44.org is “BIG PINK” we love Pink……..EVEN IF IT IS A PINK DOLPHIN ??!! LOL!!

    Pink dolphin appears in US lake
    The world’s only pink Bottlenose dolphin which was discovered in an inland lake in Louisiana, USA, has become such an attraction that conservationists have warned tourists to leave it alone.

    telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4927224/Pink-dolphin-appears-in-US-lake.html

  70. FIRST THOUGHTS: ENTER KATHLEEN SEBELIUS

    March 02, 2009

    The tone of Obama’s health-care week gets set today when the president formally introduces his second choice for HHS secretary: Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Expect Obama to talk about her ability to work across party lines (she has a Republican lieutenant governor (CLARIFICATION: Sebelius’ lieutenant governor was a Republican, but switched parties in 2006 to run as a Democrat), and her husband’s father was a Republican congressman), as well as her experience dealing with state health-care issues. But what’s going to matter most? Her relationship with one man: Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus, who is going to be the single-most important person on the Hill in crafting any health-care legislation. For those wondering if there will still be a desk at the White House for Sebelius — a la the Daschle arrangement — don’t bet on it. There are a lot of players in the White House who are going to be involved in the details of health care, including Rahm Emanuel (who will get a lot of back channel advice from the non-Hollywood brother); Peter Orszag (who has set the table for health care as a budget crisis); and Larry Summers (whose shop wasn’t thrilled with giving up health care to Daschle in the first place). Also, as we’ve written before, a sidebar story to Sebelius’ confirmation will be a heated debate over abortion. Look for the pro-life community to start test-driving some of its abortion messages on this confirmation hearing as a prelude to the fight over Obama’s first SCOTUS nomination.

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/03/02/1816572.aspx

  71. PACs spent record $416M on federal election: Reps. Kevin Brady, Joe Barton, David Scott and John Tanner received a greater percentage of their campaign donations from political action committees than any other members of Congress in 2007-2008. Barton led his peers with 88.4% of his campaign contributions coming from PACs.

    By John Fritze, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON — President Obama shunned contributions from political action committees during his campaign but the special-interest spigot remained wide open for Congress and could still influence his agenda.

    A USA TODAY analysis of campaign contributions identified 175 members of Congress who received half or more of their campaign cash from political action committees in 2007-08. PACs spent a record $416 million on the federal election, the non-partisan CQ MoneyLine reports. Obama has railed against the power of special interests, but watchdog groups say the deep contributions to lawmakers could shape his proposals — including ambitious plans for health care, energy and taxes that he unveiled in last week’s budget — as they are debated in Congress. “The purpose of PAC giving is so a company can buy a seat at the table,” said Craig Holman, of the watchdog group Public Citizen.

    There are 4,600 business, labor and special-interest PACs, according to the Federal Election Commission. Most can give $5,000 to a candidate per election, more than twice the individual limit.

    Obama refused PAC and lobbyist donations during his campaign — “They will not drown out the views of the American people,” he said last year — but he took money from lawyers whose firms employed lobbyists. The vast majority of lawmakers placed no such limits on their fundraising. Some, including Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, received more than 80% of their campaign money from PACs, federal reports show.
    “Congressman Barton is proud that groups of nurses, oilmen, Realtors and … others agree with him,” Barton’s office said in an e-mail. “The fact that so many people believe in him is a tonic.”

    Of the lawmakers who took more than half of their money from PACs, 126 were Democrats and 49 were Republicans, the analysis of FEC data shows. The FEC numbers include contributions from other federal candidates and their PACs.
    The National Association of Realtors PAC gave $4.8 million, third-highest. Mary Trupo, of the Realtors, said lobbying is separate from donations. “We do it with no quid pro quo” in mind, she said.

    ————————-

    SPECIAL-INTEREST CONTRIBUTIONS: To look up your representative or senator, go to the link below and check out the chart.

    usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-03-01-pacmoney_N.htm

  72. Mar 2, 2009 8:16 | Updated Mar 2, 2009 8:18
    The Region: Helping Hillary while keeping Israel safe
    By BARRY RUBIN [Recent columns]
    Print Subscribe
    E-mail Toolbar

    Share article:
    What’s this?

    Decrease text size Decrease text size
    Increase text size Increase text size
    Talkbacks for this article: 6
    | Avg. rating 3.0 out of 5rated 3.0 by 17 people | Top Rated Articles [?]

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is arriving in Israel on the first of what will no doubt be many visits. Beyond the simple self-interest of making her feel appreciated, most Israelis are genuinely glad that she was appointed to this job. The reason why is critical to understanding the future of US Middle East Policy and US-Israel relations.

    What is most important is that Clinton is regarded as a realist. She watched her husband try really hard and put his prestige on the line in attempting to achieve an Israeli-Palestinian peace; she saw him being made to look foolish by Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Syrian ruler Hafiz Assad as they rejected his proposals. During the presidential campaign she courageously – and to her own cost – tried to explain the dangers to those dreaming only of a fast getaway from Iraq.

    Moreover, it’s not just that she spoke positively about Israel – a senator from New York could do no less – but that the way she explained her positions seemed to indicate she really understood the situation.

    All things considered, then, one can believe the secretary of state doesn’t accept four myths that some – though not all – of her colleagues in Washington and Europe embrace. She seems to know that:

    # The Israel-Palestinian conflict is not the fulcrum of the Middle East whose solution will make Islamism, terrorism, Iran’s nuclear weapons’ program, anti-Western or anti-American sentiments, Iraq’s instability, and all other regional problems disappear.

    # The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not easily solvable by pressure, the perfect plan, or hard work. Not only is peace not at hand, it isn’t even at arms’ length.

    # Whatever part of the blame for continued conflict is due to Israel, a very large and decisive portion rests on the Palestinian side for reasons which include the weakness of the Palestinian Authority and its leadership and the division into Hamas and Fatah regimes.

    # Bringing Hamas into the negotiating process is a mistake that would doom any chance for peace and might even bring the Palestinian Authority (PA) crashing down altogether. US interests require that the PA survives as recognized Palestinian leader, while Hamas is an Iranian client whose triumph would hurt the US strategic position in the region.

    SECRETARY OF STATE Clinton also knows that the new Israeli government is not yet in place and her first visit must be dedicated to getting acquainted with leaders and issues.

    What are the problems for bilateral relations? A critical aspect is that no matter how skeptical Clinton is of the chances for progress, she wants to make it appear that she is actively engaged and making progress. The thing that will make her furious is that which makes her look bad. And she wants Israel to make her look good.

    On some items, this is no problem. A high level of cooperation with the PA, supporting funds and military training for it within reason is in Israel’s interest. The West Bank economic and security situation is improving. Here, Clinton and Israel should agree.

    HER NEXT GOAL is a bit more difficult but reasonable: that Israel should dismantle more settler outposts, as Israel has promised. True, this presents political difficulties and potential confrontations with settlers, yet Israel’s government should assert its authority. A serious effort on this front would bring a positive return from Washington with no cost to Israel’s security.

    Beyond this, the United States is likely to ask for Israel to stop expanding settlements, even for natural growth. Since the peace process’s start 16 years ago Israel has publicly asserted that building homes for “natural growth,” new adults on existing settlements, is part of the Oslo agreement.

    If this were to change, Clinton could claim a victory of stopping settlements, usually portrayed by the PA as its main grievance, that is, excuse for not doing more itself. Such a concession should not be unthinkable but the question is what would Israel get in exchange? US pressuring the PA to stop officially inspired anti-Israel incitement; changing its schools and media to advocate a two-state solution; greater US backing for Israel’s security regarding Gaza? Asking Israel to do something on the settlement issue is all right if – but only if – there is more real compliance from the Palestinian side.

    Finally and importantly there is the question of Gaza. Clinton wants some quick success on that front, namely a cease-fire and resolution of humanitarian problems there. It will be tempting for her to insist that Israel reopens crossings unconditionally, without a real cease-fire or any release of Hamas’s Israeli hostage. And Israel will explain why it has legitimate concerns which must be realized, lest a new war crisis emerge.

    Of course, the two governments must begin to reach understandings about Iran. The new administration is determined to try engaging Teheran. Israel must convey the point that Washington should be alert to Iranian efforts to bully or fool the new president. The goal of stopping Iran’s nuclear weapons’ drive has to be the top priority; unilateral concessions in exchange for nothing should be avoided.

    And the White House will hopefully not be shy in admitting when it finally concludes that Iran doesn’t want to be friends. President Barack Obama has spoken of opening Iran’s clenched fist. The danger is that Iran will do so only to slap America silly.

    Early on this administration must comprehend that reputations will not be built, Nobel Peace Prizes won, or Arab and European cooperation won by sacrificing Israel’s vital interests. In exchange, Clinton must see that Israel wants to make her look successful and to cooperate on reasonable terms. On such a basis of understanding and good will a very successful partnership can be built.

    The writer is director of the Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center at IDC Herzliya and editor of the Middle East Review of International Affairs Journal (meria.idc.ac.il).

    http://www.gloriacenter.org

  73. Despite what I said above about a house of cards, I need to be a little careful here. When you lose 2/3 of your money in a few months these concerns rise to the surface and it is wrong for me to spread them to you.

    The point is, we do not want to extrapolate too much from what we are seeing right now. Yes, the downward trend is powerful, and there is no optimisim in the market. But just remember, awhile back oil was at $148 a barrel. Things will get better as long as Mr Obama does not screw up further.

    There are alot of bargains out there now and people who have been hoarding their assets will be inclined at some point to leave the sidelines and reenter the market. The foundations of the world economy must be rebuilt and confidence will be restored. Fortunately,
    that is happening right now on one very important front.

    The work Hillary has done thus far in China, building their confidence in the American economy has laid an important foundation for a global recovery. She has moved on to the middle east, where a broad agreement based on security and prosperity is possilbe and if it is accomplished then it will lay another foundation. She is working on the Russian piece as well because they have influence over Iran.

    While good news has poured out of Asia about her trip, big media has damned it with faint praise or dissed it on the false prestense of human rights. These are the same people who undermined her presidential campaign. We must be prepared to fight back–for the sake of our girl, and the economic recovery which she is seeking to bring about.

  74. wbboei Says:

    March 2nd, 2009 at 11:57 am

    ———————————————

    I don’t see anything wrong with what you said in the first place. Things are grim economically at the moment. Unless you’re of the mind to hide your head in the sand, I believe it is better to be forewarned. As you said, unless obama screws up majorly, things should balance out at some point. It is just going to take time and more time.jmo

  75. There you go wbb….

    I have become a manic-depressive and you always bring me back from either brink.

    Things are looking bleak this morning, however, and with the exception of HRC, who can we trust? I know there are a lot of good people out there. We need their input NOW.

  76. Obama refused PAC and lobbyist donations during his campaign — “They will not drown out the views of the American people,” he said last year — but he took money from lawyers whose firms employed lobbyists.
    ———————–
    This is pure unadulterated bullshit.

    The implication is Obama is clean. If all he did was take money from lawfirms who employed lobbyists that would be one thing. But there is far more to it than these benighted writers care to disclose. There is the overarching presence of global bankers, multi nationals, wall street, hedge funds, etc.

    Nowhere do they talk about the meeting he had with Soros, the introduction to investment bankers, the UBC Swiss Banker who helped plan the money aspect of his campaign, the 750 million which poured in from abroad, the sequence of large contributions which were divided up to fly under the radar screen and all the rest of it.

    Nice piece of journalism. The lies and trechery continue.

  77. Jan- I hope my head is not in the sand–or what Rogers and Hammerstein referred to as A Cockeyed Optimist.

    I find truth in what that Budhaist master said about invisible forces, the work Hillary is doing, the way operate–even distressed ones work, and the fact that the panic is a survival mechanism generated by adenalin and its affect was never intended to be short term.

    The risk that I do see to that recovery is Mr Obama himself. The Hippocratic oath, i.e. first do not harm, does not aply to him. If he tried to take that oath he would probably screw it up. If he would stand there on the podium and argue with the Chief Justice of the United States whether his middle name Hussein should be part of the oath, then he is capable of anything.

  78. wbboei,

    Didn’t mean to point fingers at you regarding my “head in the sand” comment. Was talking in generalities.

    As far as the USA Today article though. LOL…I agree completely. I was interested in the chart though and the disgrace elements.

  79. Paragraph 2 above: delete and substitute:

    I find truth in what that Budhaist master said about invisible forces, the work Hillary is doing, the way markets operate–even distressed ones work, and the fact that the panic is a survival mechanism generated by adenalin and its affect was never intended to be long term.

  80. Didn’t mean to point fingers at you regarding my “head in the sand” comment. Was talking in generalities.
    —————————
    Jan- I have enough confidence in your judgment that if you had meant it then I probably deserved it.

  81. confirmation hearing as a prelude to the fight over Obama’s first SCOTUS nomination.
    ———————
    I afraid it will go to Larry Tribe, about whom I have significant qualms. I will present them later if he becomes the nominee.

  82. What do you all think about Michael Steele’s comments concerning Rush Limbaugh? Sorry to say that I am disappointed to hear that he is taking on Rush Limbaugh.

    Wonder is he was receiving threats and/or negative comments concerning a black man “disrespecting” a fellow black man regardless of what party he is in. hmmmm………………….

  83. In general, I am not a Rush Limbaugh fan…don’t trust him. Yes he spoke kindly of Hillary off and on, but I still saw it as manipulative. Overall, I think he would do more damage to the Repubs than good and don’t mind Steele going after him.

  84. You think that Rush Limbaugh would do more damage than with Michael Steele going after him? I think that Michael Steele would be sinking himself going after Rush.

    Steele would began to look like a Democrat wanna-be. I sort of think that he may be walking on thin ice here. The Demos would be delighted with Michael Steele and Steele wants to embrace hiphop which I detest.

  85. What do you all think about Michael Steele’s comments concerning Rush Limbaugh? Sorry to say that I am disappointed to hear that he is taking on Rush Limbaugh.
    ————————
    In the immortal words of Ernest and Julio Gallo, we will make no wine until its time. When Mr Obama enjoys a high appoval rating a direct attack is not advisable. Indirect attacks work better. If they launched a direct attack now eveyone would say he has not given him a chance. He needs to give it a little time for Mr Obama to gain ownership of the problem, and as people remember his campaign vision and how he has betrayed it his popularity will slip and then a direct attack will become feasible. Meanwhile, Mr Obama would love to have that attack so he could claim victimhood, play the race card and shift public attention from his failure to manage the economy. It is like Napleons admonition which says never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake.

  86. Egypt: $4.4B raised for Gaza reconstruction

    During Sharm el-Sheik Gaza aid conference, where donors pledged $4.4 billion, Clinton says Obama administration has no illusions when it comes to Tehran’s willingness to negotiate atom work, Obama will push fr two-state solution

    03.02.09

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who arrived in the Middle East for her first official visit Monday, expressed doubt that Iran would respond to the Obama administration’s expressions of interest in engaging Tehran on nuclear and other issues, a senior State Department official said. Clinton was in Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheik to attend an international conference to raise money for the war-torn Gaza Strip, where donors pledged $4.4 billion in new funds, according to Egypt’s foreign minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit. He added that other nations recommitted themselves to funds they promised in the past but never delivered, bringing the total to $5.2 billion in pledges. Aboul Gheit said the figure is “beyond of our expectations.”

    Clinton made the statement on Iran in a private meeting with the foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates, Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, who had expressed to Clinton a concern among Persian Gulf nations that Obama might make a deal with Iran without full consultation with US allies. The official who described the exchange spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting was private. Clinton told her counterpart that the Obama administration is carefully calculating its moves and will consult fully with Gulf allies. “We’re under no illusions,” the official quoted Clinton as telling Abdullah. “Our eyes are wide open on Iran.” She told the UAE minister, whose country has close historic commercial ties to Iran but is wary of Iranian nuclear ambitions, that she doubts the Iranian government, will respond to US diplomatic initiatives. Last week Clinton announced that she has appointed veteran diplomat Dennis Ross to be her special adviser on matters related to the Gulf, to include overtures to the Iranians.

    On Monday, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi told reporters in Tehran, “We have said many times that a nuclear weapon has no place in Iran’s defense doctrine.”

    Clinton also told her UAE counterpart that Iran’s “worst nightmare” is an international community united against Iranian nuclear ambitions, the US official said. Clinton then went on to declare that the Obama administration is committed to pushing intensively to find a way for Israelis and Palestinians to exist peacefully in separate states. “We cannot afford more setbacks or delays or regrets about what might have been, had different decisions been made,” she said. With the Obama administration’s Mideast peace envoy George Mitchell, seated behind her at the aid conference, Clinton said the US president would continue the Bush administration’s focus on seeking a two-state solution that entails Israel and a sovereign Palestinian state co-existing in peace. She made it clear, however, that Mideast leaders could count on Obama to take a more active approach than did his predecessor. “It is time to look ahead,” she said, “The United States is committed to a comprehensive peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors, and we will pursue it on many fronts.”

    Clinton, who is scheduled to travel to Jerusalem on Tuesday to consult with Israeli government officials, said the United States was pledging $900 million to the international aid effort for the Gaza Strip: Some $300 million in humanitarian aid for Gaza and $600 million in budget and development aid to the Palestinian Authority, in the West Bank. “We have worked with the Palestinian Authority to install safeguards that will ensure our funding is only used where and for whom it is intended and does not end up in the wrong hands,” Clinton told the conference. “Our response to today’s crisis in Gaza cannot be separated from our broader efforts to achieve a comprehensive peace,” she said. “Only by acting now can we turn this crisis into an opportunity that moves us closer to our shared goals.” “By providing humanitarian aid to Gaza we also aim to foster conditions in which a Palestinian state can be fully realized, a state that is a responsible partner, is at peace with Israel and its Arab neighbors and is accountable to its people,” she added.

    Clinton also met with Egyptian FM Aboul Gheit, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, and she attended a meeting of the so-called Quartet of international mediators, the US, the European Union, the United Nations and Russia, seeking to forge progress toward peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. At that session, Mitchell added that while the situation between Israel and the Palestinians is difficult, he sees opportunity for progress. He stressed the need to consolidate a ceasefire in Gaza and he forecast that once Israel creates a new governing coalition it will be in position to improve living conditions in the West Bank.

    ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3679995,00.html

  87. I’m with JanH. Rush is a nasty piece of work. Many of his listeners are hateful trogodytes. By accusing Obama of ending America’s capitalism and freedom, he is rousing these ignoramuses to drastic remedies — and he knows it!

    In that one phrase, he is accusing O of being a Communist (there goes capitalism) and of being a fascist (there goes liberty). What’s an All-American skin-head to do? If Rush believed half of this nonsense, he would tell them what to do.

    I did agree with him on one thing (I think he said it).
    Congress voted for a bill they never read!!! I wouldn’t mind replacing all of them that did that.

  88. independent2008 Says:

    March 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    —————————————

    I’m not saying Steele will come out of this looking good, but as freckles says, Rush is a nasty piece of work.

  89. Question: is he attacking Rush or merely separating himself from what he is saying. There is a difference you know. If it is the former it is unwise, if the latter then it is wise, I think, for the reasons set forth above.

  90. # wbboei Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    confirmation hearing as a prelude to the fight over Obama’s first SCOTUS nomination.
    ———————
    I afraid it will go to Larry Tribe, about whom I have significant qualms. I will present them later if he becomes the nominee.
    *************
    Diane Wood is the “front runner” but her nomination would cause a sh*t storm with the abortion issue. I still think that Doug Kmiec has a good chance because Obama doesn’t want to fight with his new BFFs on the religious right.

  91. March 01, 2009
    Boxer & Obama to adopt New World Order

    The New World Order means that a central authority will control all aspects of our lives, including parenting:

    Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., is urging a hurry-up timetable for adoption of a United Nations treaty she says provides for “basic human rights” for children but opponents argue would destroy parental rights to raise their children as they choose.

    “Children deserve basic human rights … and the convention protects children’s rights by setting some standards here so that the most vulnerable people of society will be protected,” Boxer said, according to Fox News.

    Boxer wants quick action on the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, a proposal on which for 20 years Congress has refused to act because of concerns and questions.

    The instrument was signed by President Clinton in 1995, but opposition and critics’ concerns that it would override centuries of practice, policy and law regarding children have left it unadopted.

    The document would create “the right of the child to freedom of thought, conscience and religion,” which critics say would usurp the role of parents in directing their children’s religious training.

    But Boxer said during a hearing in the Senate recently she feels a “humiliation” that the U.S. has not adopted the plan.

    WND reported just a week ago one of the nation’s top experts on children’s rights, Michael Farris, president of ParentalRights.org and chancellor of Patrick Henry College, said the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child would mean every decision a parent makes can be reviewed by the government to determine whether it is in the child’s best interest.

    “The left wants to make the Obama-Clinton era permanent. Treaties are a way to make it as permanent as stuff gets. It is very difficult to extract yourself from a treaty once you begin it. If they can put all of their left-wing socialist policies into treaty form, we’re stuck with it even if they lose the next election,” he warned.

    The 1990s-era document was ratified quickly by 193 nations worldwide but not the U.S. or Somalia. In Somalia, there was then no recognized government to formally recognize the measure, and in the U.S. there’s been opposition to its power. Countries that ratify the treaty are bound to it by international law.

    The international treaty creates specific civil, social, cultural and even economic rights for every child and states that “the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.” While the treaty states parents or legal guardians “have primary responsibility for the upbringing and development of the child,” Farris said government will ultimately determine whether parents’ decisions are in their children’s best interest.

    According to the Parental Rights website, the CRC dictates the following:

    * Parents would no longer be able to administer reasonable spankings to their children.

    * A murderer aged 17 years, 11 months and 29 days at the time of his crime could no longer be sentenced to life in prison.

    * Children would have the ability to choose their own religion while parents would only have the authority to give their children advice about religion.

    * The best interest of the child principle would give the government the ability to override every decision made by every parent if a government worker disagreed with the parent’s decision.

    * A child’s “right to be heard” would allow him (or her) to seek governmental review of every parental decision with which the child disagreed.

    * According to existing interpretation, it would be illegal for a nation to spend more on national defense than it does on children’s welfare.

    * Children would acquire a legally enforceable right to leisure.

    * Teaching children about Christianity in schools has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.

    * Allowing parents to opt their children out of sex education has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.

    * Children would have the right to reproductive health information and services, including abortions, without parental knowledge or consent.

    The government would decide what is in the best interest of a children in every case, and the CRC would be considered superior to state laws, Farris said. Parents could be treated like criminals for making every-day decisions about their children’s lives.

    “If you think your child shouldn’t go to the prom because their grades were low, the U.N. Convention gives that power to the government to review your decision and decide if it thinks that’s what’s best for your child,” he said. “If you think that your children are too young to have a Facebook account, which interferes with the right of communication, the U.N. gets to determine whether or not your decision is in the best interest of the child.”

    At a Walden University presidential debate last October, Obama indicated he may take action.

    “It’s embarrassing to find ourselves in the company of Somalia, a lawless land,” Obama said. “I will review this and other treaties to ensure the United States resumes its global leadership in human rights.”

    Fox News reported the standing U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, an 18-member panel in Geneva, would review the rights of children in all disputes.

    sibbyonline.blogs.com/sibbyonline/2009/03/boxer-obama-to-adopt-new-world-order.html

  92. Boxer was a strong Hillary supporter..surprised she called Obama’s “speech” last weeks one of the best ever. I guess you have to eat some humble pie to be a player.

    As far as the Limbaugh’s and Hannity’s, tigers never change their colors…their primary “support” for Hillary was simply convenient at the time.

  93. Dear Admin,

    I have put together a mini economic symposium in three 59-minute audio podcasts. I am well aware that some people are confused about what is happening financially and economically, and what has already gone done.

    This may not be the most opportune afternoon, or even the best week for some – there is also the issue of what is one person’s teachable moment is another person’s hellacious day.

    So if it is alright with you, I will post it a couple of times a week, or you can appropriate it and stick it somewhere where those who want can find it and play any of the three parts.

  94. Wash dishes – Fix dinner – Take a one-hour walk – And take a three episode class in Econ 101 that will penetrate fast and easy – but most of all, they will stay with you. These are the three 59 minute episodes:

    355: The Giant Pool of Money

    A special program about the housing crisis produced in a special collaboration with NPR News. We explain it all to you. What does the housing crisis have to do with the turmoil on Wall Street? Why did banks make half-million dollar loans to people without jobs or income? And why is everyone talking so much about the 1930s? It all comes back to the Giant Pool of Money.

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=355

    ———————————————
    365: Another Frightening Show About the Economy

    Alex Blumberg and NPR’s Adam Davidson—the two guys who reported our Giant Pool of Money episode—are back, in collaboration with the Planet Money podcast. They’ll explain what happened this week, including what regulators could’ve done to prevent this financial crisis from happening in the first place. You can learn more about the daily ins and outs and join the discussion on the Planet Money blog.

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=365

    ————————————————
    375: Bad Bank

    The collapse of the banking system explained, in just 59 minutes. Our crack economics team, the guys who explained the mortgagecrisis, Alex Blumberg and NPR’s Adam Davidson are back to help all of us understand the news. For instance, when we talk about an insolvent bank what does it actually mean, and why are we giving hundreds of billions of dollars to rich bankers who screwed up their own businesses. Also, two guys go to New Jersey to look at a toxic asset.

    Other shows on the financial crisis: Giant Pool of Money and Another Frightening Show About the Economy. And you can get daily updates about the financial crisis on Alex and Adam’s Planet Money podcast and blog.

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=375

    ——————————–
    These recent episodes of the Planet Money podcast go into more depth on the issues in this week’s show:

    2/9/09 Get Tougher Please—especially the interview with Adam Posen
    2/27/09 He Nationalized a Bank
    2/2/09 Japan’s Lost Lesson

    Simon Johnson, the former IMF official on this week’s show, has a blog called BaselineScenario.com.

    Thank you to Chicago Public Radio.

  95. wbboei Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Didn’t mean to point fingers at you regarding my “head in the sand” comment. Was talking in generalities.
    —————————
    Jan- I have enough confidence in your judgment that if you had meant it then I probably deserved it.

    ================

    Good thing Jan qualified it, then.

  96. WordPress says I am sending a duplicate- so I probably am in moderation, though I am not getting to see it myself with that purple “you are in moderation” note

  97. As far as the Limbaugh’s and Hannity’s, tigers never change their colors…their primary “support” for Hillary was simply convenient at the time.
    ———————
    Coulter too based on that her comments before the American Conservative Union.

    Theres not alot of difference between bots and dittoheads–other than their script.

    A parallel point. One of the recurring stories in the world of labor relations is the saga of the militant shop steward who stands in front of a mirror saying damed their eyes and we cant let the company get away with this or pretty soon they will take all of our rights away and we will have no union.

    Sooner or later, management gets sick of hearing this story and decides they must take action. So they look in the disciplinary file and what do they find? Glowing letters of accomodation from customers, and no warning letters or suspension. Whatthefuckdowedonow.

    One of the managers steps forward and says I have a brilliant idea. Since we cannot fire this troublemaker, lets promote him into management where we can control him. Life will be good. So un belle die they call him into his office, he enters with a hidden tape recorder because he thinks he is about to be fired and wants to get it all on record even though it is inadmissable. The boss shuts the door, sits down and looks him in they eye. On goes the tape recorder. The boss tells him we have had our eye on you for a long time and think you have strong management potential.

    The shop steward spills his coffee, the tape recorder falls out of his pocket but management is so transfixed with their speech and trying hard to get throught it without barfing that they fail to notice what is obvious–which is what makes them good managers. Finally there is an offer, a pause, a second pause and then an acceptance followed by immediate buyers remorse on both sides. But the deed is done.

    The next day the former shop steward shows up for work in a white shirt, tie and polished shoes. He wanders around the shop floor muttering something about the need for efficiency and a fair days work for a fair days pay. Union people look at him and look at eachother and wonder what the world is coming to. They decide today might be as good a time as any to pull a little slowdown and see how he reacts.

    Since he is wise to these little games and they were his pupils in prior life he jumps on the problem with both feet. He fires them on the spot. Now all work ceases on the floor. The manager who hired him noticing that nothing is moving sticks his head out the door and asks the new superivisor if he can have a minute of his valuable time. The shop steward marches into his office, and tells the manager we cant let the union get away with this, it is a violation of the contract and if we do they will destroy the company.

    It is the same with bots and dittoheads. Two great nations separated only by a common language.
    low and behold they offer him a promotion.

  98. SHV said: Diane Wood is the “front runner” but her nomination would cause a sh*t storm with the abortion issue. I still think that Doug Kmiec has a good chance because Obama doesn’t want to fight with his new BFFs on the religious right.

    =======================

    He needs a wavering SC so as to hold Roe hostage for 2012 and future Dem campaigns.

  99. Fox News reported the standing U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, an 18-member panel in Geneva, would review the rights of children in all disputes.

    sibbyonline.blogs.com/sibbyonline/2009/03/boxer-obama-to-adopt-new-world-order.html

    =============

    And then the US defines a fertilized egg as a child….

  100. jbstonesfan Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Boxer was a strong Hillary supporter..

    =================

    Not for very long. She started out sounding supportive of Hillary, very early, but soon started saying she’d vote with the citizens of CA, then reneged on that after Hillary won CA….

  101. hmm…disappointing, I thought she (Boxer) and Feinstein were very loyal . I know Boxer has grown her hair out…I liked it when it was shorter and darker…just my opinion.

  102. Jan,

    I too was very disappointed in Boxer. But Feinstein did remain very loyal all through, sfaik.

  103. Not for very long. She started out sounding supportive of Hillary, very early, but soon started saying she’d vote with the citizens of CA, then reneged on that after Hillary won CA….
    ———————–
    Turndown: you are correct. I called her office after she said she would vote with the citizens of her state. They were very testy and said she would not endorse but would vote as per the citizens of her state in the first ballot. I think highly of Feinstein, but Boxer has always struck me at least as a bit of a loon. One of many I am afraid.

  104. GET BUMPER STICKERS HERE:
    zazzle.com/obama+bumperstickers?st=date_created

    find awesome slogans such as:

    “hope and change” killed my 401k

    obama get your hands off my piggy bank

    I hated obama before it was cool

    impeach obama

    honk if you’re paying my morgage

    [obama logo] are you happy now
    OBAMA’S PINK SLIP [sticker is pink] ……I love this one!
    zazzle.com/obamas_pink_slip_impeach_obama_bumper_sticker-128583014857082369

    JOIN THE TEA PARTY

    OBAMA IS A CUSS WORD AT MY HOUSE

    OBAMA: ONE BIG ASS MISTAKE AMERICA… CHANGE FOR THE WORSE
    zazzle.co.uk/one_big_ass_mistake_america_bumper_sticker-128634203137886540

  105. Here is an example of what is waiting for us hidden in the shadows of the Obama agenda:

    Kissinger: Obama primed to create ‘New World Order’

    Policy guru says global upheaval presents ‘GREAT OPPORTUNITY’

    http //www dot worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85442

    More evidence the Financial Crisis is a completely orchestrated event. Kissinger exalts the ‘great opportunity’ presented…NOT to US, though, who have lost most of our security.

    So, one would ask, who is presented with this great opportunity?

  106. Clinton calls for ‘durable’ Gaza truce, condemns rockets
    1 hour ago

    SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (AFP) — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called on Monday for all sides in the Gaza conflict to work towards a durable ceasefire and condemned continued rocket attacks on Israel.

    “I am troubled by the continuing rocket attacks coming out of Gaza,” Clinton said at a press conference following an international donor conference to raise funds for rebuilding Gaza.

    “We call upon all (parties) to move toward a durable ceasefire,” she said.

    “But it is very difficult for any country to just sit and take rockets falling on its people, that is the crux of the Israeli problem. How are they supposed to respond when they continue to have that kind of attack.”

    Egypt has been trying to mediate a long-term ceasefire between Israel and Hamas since the end of the Jewish state’s three-week war on the Gaza Strip on January 18.

    But Israel has linked any truce and a lifting of its blockade of Gaza to the release of a soldier captured by Gaza militants in June 2006.

    On the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, Clinton said: “The US is prepared to engage in aggressive diplomacy with all sides in pursuit of a comprehensive settlement that brings peace and security to Israel and its Arab neighbours.”

    Clinton is due to leave Egypt for talks with Israeli leaders on Tuesday on Middle East peace efforts.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gid-B97gmhLgqf8brVLEKN46E-Lw

    —————————————-

    Thank you Hillary!

  107. Obama is a puppet and the continuing question is who controls him.

    It is absurd for Kissinger to suggest that Obama will define the new world order.

    Rather they are using him in a futile attempt to convince the world that the United States has a plan for global recovery.

    The evolution will be from a positon of US dominance to one of being a key player in a G-7 type arrangement.

    This effort has been thwarted by nationalist and nativist forces. But if domestic populations can be convinced that he is the way, they can overcome.

    There is an element of shock doctrine here perhaps as well.

  108. wbboei,

    I think obama is very open the the power of suggestion…a lemming. He seems to be easily swayed and influenced by those with alterior motives and doesn’t seem to be able to separate the good from the bad. Given his lack of original thinking, I believe there is a huge empty space in his brain that just acts like a sponge.

  109. Dear Admin,

    I have put together a mini economic symposium in three 59-minute audio podcasts. I am well aware that some people are confused about what is happening financially and economically, and what has already gone done.

    This may not be the most opportune afternoon, or even the best week for some – there is also the issue of what is one person’s teachable moment is another person’s hellacious day.

    So if it is alright with you, I will post it a couple of times a week, or you can appropriate it and stick it somewhere where those who want can find it and play any of the three parts.
    =======================

    It is out of moderation and posted at 2:14 pm

  110. admin

    duh, you are right. AC was referring to the REAL mary-todd, giving abe a “fist-bump” and being proud of her country for the first time, etc..

    my punishment was having to listen to AC AGAIN! 😉

  111. I am not a Rush fan either, but someone needs to stop being scared to speack out against Obama. Besides, it bothers me much more when other Democrats speack out harshly about the Clintons than Rush. At least he’s a Republican speaking out against them and not someone of their own party.

    Frankly, I hope that Rush and Hannity continue their onslaught of Obama.

    I really don’t understand all of this tip-toeig around Obama and saying not to say anything about him at the height of his popularity and people will realize who he really is and then go after him. I totally disagree because Obama would like that because that is how he won the primaries and general election because people was sooo scared to call him out on things. People didn’t catch on to his deceitfulness then, and they won’t now! McCain didn’t want to use Jeremiah Wright and we saw how far that got him!!

    Enought of tiptoeing around Obama!!! Bring it on!!!! Because if the situation was flipped, believe me there will be no tip toeing whatsoever. Mark my words , if this situation keeps up we are looking at 8 years of Obama.

    Still disappointed in Hillary working for this fraud. I am a black female by the way, so no one can label me a racist.

  112. Boxer wants quick action on the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, a proposal on which for 20 years Congress has refused to act because of concerns and questions.

    The instrument was signed by President Clinton in 1995
    ******************************
    I don’t seem to recall anything about this from 1995…does anyone remember WHY Bill Clinton thought it was a good idea, or did he???

  113. Many of us were upset that our beloved Hillary accepted SOS, but she had three choice imo : 1) rot in the Senate with those old men and jealous women 2) accept the SOS position, albeit reluctantly, and try and undo the damage Bush/Obama create or are creating or 3) join Bill and leave the party and try and run as a Independent in 2012..this would have been my choice, but a candidate with no party really stands no chance….

    Thus, we are proud to see her shine as SOS, but now full well, all credit will go to BO, and all failures attributed to her or Bill.

  114. What will Hillary do if by some miracle Obama loses in 2012. She may have wished she kept her senate job. At least the people who voted for her really want her workig for them and as long as the citizens vote for her, she could have a very long career, unlike having the career of SOS. Guess I am not really impressed by the SOS position.

  115. I agree independent2008..I cant believe she is working for this fraud…i just cant believe it..but i know she has got friends and she has insiders too.i hope so…so he being watched..he scares the daylights out of me..i hope ever aa in the country never ever votes for him ..and rush and hannity can go after him everyday..just what bill and hill went thru..people need to speak out .

    dean fraud too..i think that emauel and him do not get along..i read it on a blog last summer…

  116. I don’t like Hillary working for obama either. But maybe she is doing it because she believes she can make a difference. And many people don’t care who gets the credit as long as the outcome is a good one. Hillary is a wonder ambassador of goodwill for the U.S.A. She is a brilliant strategist as well. She may be thinking that by 2012, if obama flunks out, that she will spread her wings and do something just or even more rewarding with her life.

    I thank God that she is in that position.

  117. wbboei Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Obama is a puppet and the continuing question is who controls him.

    It is absurd for Kissinger to suggest that Obama will define the new world order.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Kissinger link dovetails in with Brown’s intentions for coming to DC for a Pow-Wow with Obama tomorrow..

    at …. http //pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

    ps.. your Buddist adventure over the last weekend seems like a timely happening for you..

  118. Also, if the best the republicans can come up with is Jindal, Palin, and Rush for 2012, BO will win by a even larger magin than McCain. The only one I see getting in the way of his re-election( kinda scary) would be dissent from within, and that does not appear likely.
    Romney, like him or not, is a brilliant business mind, and could, as in Mass, be moderate. The issue remains whether he is electable.

  119. CJ,

    You are right. Obama is just going through what Bill and Hillary went through. For some reason, people seem to have more sympathy for him than Bill and Hillary. I don’t understand it.

    Black people will still vote for him no matter what. Heck, Jeremiah Wright wasn’t a concern to many of them although if it was a white preacher saying the same stuff about a black candidate we will still be hearing about it today and Al Sharpton will be all over it!

    Reminds me of the OJ trial, once Furman was labeled a racist OJ had won the case. At that point, the jury didn’t care whether OJ killed Nicole or not. They was sending a message. People was even calling Fred Goldman a racist. I am not sure of Fred Goldman’s true feelings about blacks, but he had every right to be outraged with OJ. The authorities said that OJ was their man. People act as if Fred Goldman would be relieved if his son’s attacker was white. Give me a break!!

  120. Sadly, dissent on either side is equated with racism. It explains why Hillary/Bill are still the target for negative spin, whereas it is BO’s policies that are treated as gospel ….

  121. Also, if the best the republicans can come up with is Jindal, Palin, and Rush for 2012, BO will win by a even larger magin than McCain. The only one I see getting in the way of his re-election( kinda scary) would be dissent from within, and that does not appear likely.
    —————————
    It may seem that way now, but dont you think 2012 will be more of a refendum on Obama and the economy?

    They have not launched any kind of attack on him yet. Two years from now he may be in an indefensible position on the economic front and if that is so then the old adage about defending an indefensible position may apply.

    Its a long high wire act between now and then, and the prospects for failure loom around every corner. The longer he is in office the more the economic problem sticks to him in the minds of most people. Particularly if they have a family to feed.

    I think all the Republicans have to do is come up with a credible candidate by then the remaining chips will fall in place. The governor of Minnesota could prove to be the not-Obama brand. The mantra of change favors the challenger and not the opponent.

    The Republicans have a problem however and that is figuring out whom they are and thinking beyond the paradigm of radical free markets and Reaganomics, and retreating demograhics. But those will not stop them if the country is really desperate for change. Rather, it will impede their ability to govern effectively if they win.

  122. jbstonesfan Says:

    March 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    Sadly, dissent on either side is equated with racism. It explains why Hillary/Bill are still the target for negative spin, whereas it is BO’s policies that are treated as gospel ….

    ——————————————————————
    You are right about that.

  123. Are we a democracy or are we an obligarchy? The answer was suggested in 2000, but it was answered concusively in 2008. We are an obligarchy that wants the world to think we are a democracy. The casual reference by dean to the verb “rule” as opposed to govern hit upon the truth.

    Until 2008, most of us believed that the power was divided thusly. The party elders picked candidates, voters selectd the nominee and voters selected the president. We believed the press would tell both sides of the story.

    How naiive we were-I was.

    It now appears that elites control the process at every step from candidates to nominee to president. The bots still think they won this thing. Useful idiots. Why do we do what we docampaigning, contributing and worrying that our candidate will win when as now the process is more rigged than a Las Vegas casino when the mob was running the show. Emanuels move is one more nail in the coffin of democracy-and the other party was no better.

  124. Mrs. Smith Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    wbboei Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Obama is a puppet and the continuing question is who controls him.

    =================

    I expect that’s a question that his various puppeteers are struggling with right now.

Comments are closed.