Our Valentine Is Hillary Clinton

Our Valentine is Hillary Clinton. As always today Hillary Clinton is not vacationing, nor taking time off. Hillary is hard at work Saving The World.

When the world needs help, when the world sends a call for help like a mythical Batsignal in the night, that S.O.S. morse code message is answered by S.O.S. herself – Hillary Clinton.

Have we told you lately Hillary, how we feel?



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Today Hillary sets out to save the world:

In her first trip abroad since taking office, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will travel to Asia, departing Washington, DC on February 15. Secretary Clinton will visit Japan (February 16-18), Indonesia (February 18-19), the Republic of Korea (February 19-20), and China (February 20-22).

In all capitals, Secretary Clinton will be discussing common approaches to the challenges facing the international community, including the financial markets turmoil, humanitarian issues, security and climate change.

In Tokyo, Secretary Clinton will meet with senior Japanese officials for discussions on the strategic bilateral alliance and cooperation with Japan on regional and global issues. The Secretary then will travel to Jakarta to hold consultations will senior Indonesian officials to discuss the close and growing partnership with Indonesia and perspectives on common interests in Southeast Asia.

In Seoul, Secretary Clinton will meet with senior leaders to discuss our expanding global cooperative partnership with our ally, the Republic of Korea.

The Secretary will conclude her trip in China where she will meet with senior officials in Beijing to further develop a positive, cooperative relationship between the United States and the People’s Republic of China.



We have posted, on the right hand side column, news about Hillary Clinton. The main item of interest which we have highlighted thus far is the creation of “NO Limits”. Thus far NO Limits is a B.O. free site. NO Limits serves, for now, as the induction point for the Army of the Potomac. When called to service we will all respond and join the Grand Army of the Republic – ready to throw out the rapscallions, scallywags, flim-flammers, and Ne’er-do-wells who currently occupy the nation’s capital.

But that is preparation for a later day. On this Valentine’s Day our Pink website turns a bright Valentine’s Day Red.

Like latter day Robin’s of Locksley or Ivanhoe’s waiting for their true lion-hearted liege to return – we today tip our jousting lances in tribute and admiration.

Our admiration goes out not to a mythical or fictional noble, but rather to a true, hardworking, most amazing, Wonder Woman – Hillary Clinton.



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  1. Boy, two knockout videos, Admin. It shows that WE’RE STILL HERE!

    BTW, got a mailing from the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. Contains membership form, contribiution envelope and sample letter for me to send to our Congressman. Former Congresswoman Barbara Kennelly is the CEO. Does anyone have any scoop on this or is it just another scam?

  2. Here is to Hillary, hoping things work out in such a way that she will become the President in 2012 (yes, I say that unabashedly!)
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    And to repeat my post from the previous thread because the acute irony in what happened during the primary is unmistakable.

    # pm317 Says:
    February 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Oh, I am liking this discussion in the last few posts, starting with ShortTermer’s..

    Years ago, maybe 20, I argued with a Professor who was deriding the American system for not having a woman President so far. I had argued that it was easier electing a woman in a parliamentary system (like UK and India) because the candidate needed to only convince the party members in the order of a couple of hundreds to appoint her and that was easier compared to the American system where it was highly retail and the woman candidate would have had to convince every voter’s mind that she was capable (this scene happened in my in-laws house and my MIL was very impressed with her new DIL about how she took on the learned professor, 🙂 ).

    Well, do you see the irony here and now? The PEOPLE wanted Hillary but the party (with the assistance of a corrupt media) did everything to stop it and succeeded, and that to in a non-parliamentary system. This is a sham democracy!

    My current assessment is that 0bama is on thin ice. Lot of people were coerced into voting for him and he will pay a bigger penalty for his mistakes than otherwise. In the end the only faction that will stay steadfast with him are his primary voters. But the rest will abandon him like the sinking ship. The rest will also at some point recognize that we, the steadfast Hillary faction were not voicing our concerns JUST because we wanted Hillary but more because we saw who he really was.

    Oh, I am liking this discussion in the last few posts, starting with ShortTermer’s..

    Years ago, maybe 20, I argued with a Professor who was deriding the American system for not having a woman President so far. I had argued that it was easier electing a woman in a parliamentary system (like UK and India) because the candidate needed to only convince the party members in the order of a couple of hundreds to appoint her and that was easier compared to the American system where it was highly retail and the woman candidate would have had to convince every voter’s mind that she was capable (this scene happened in my in-laws house and my MIL was very impressed with her new DIL about how she took on the learned professor, 🙂 ).

    Well, do you see the irony here and now? The PEOPLE wanted Hillary but the party (with the assistance of a corrupt media) did everything to stop it and succeeded, and that to in a non-parliamentary system. This is a sham democracy!

    My current assessment is that 0bama is on thin ice. Lot of people were coerced into voting for him and he will pay a bigger penalty for his mistakes than otherwise. In the end the only faction that will stay steadfast with him are his primary voters. But the rest will abandon him like the sinking ship. The rest will also at some point recognize that we, the steadfast Hillary faction were not voicing our concerns JUST because we wanted Hillary but more because we saw who he really was.

  3. Happy Valentines day to our favorite lady, SOS, Hillary Clinton! Happy Valentines to everyone else here who keeps our hopes and dreams alive by diligently reporting what the MSM refuses/ignores.

  4. Happy Valentines Day, Miss Hillary! Thank you for all that you have done and continue to do to make this a safer world.

  5. turndownobama-com Says:

    February 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    The VOTERS WANTED HILLARY IN THE GE. Exit polls Nov 4 showed that 9.5 million of McCain’s voters would have voted for HIllary. She would have won by MORE votes than Obama did.

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    I agree completely. And personally, I have a hard time comparing what happened to Jesus in the same light as what happened to Hillary.

  6. 13.02.2009
    Clinton discusses Gaza ceasefire with Egyptian counterpart

    US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Ali Aboul Gheit have held talks in Washington on the crisis in the Gaza Strip. Clinton and Gheit addressed the need to maintain the ceasefire implemented last month after three weeks of fighting between the Israeli military and Hamas militants. The two diplomats also discussed Egypt’s plans to host an international donor conference next month to raise money to help Palestinians in Gaza. Meanwhile Egyptian negotiators and representatives from the Islamist Hamas movement have made progress in ceasefire talks in Cairo.

    dw-world.de/dw/function/0,,12215_cid_4025261,00.html?maca=en-en_nr-1893-xml-atom

  7. Blue, it’s another scam.

    We wrote about Kennelly here:
    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/02/11/the-shame-of-the-democratic-left-part-iv-social-security/

    “The president gets it,” said former Democratic Rep. Barbara Kennelly, the president of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. “This is very different from the people who run around beating the drum for entitlement reform — they’re coming from a different place.”

    We’ll have much more on Social Security this week.

  8. Wonderful pictures of Hillary! I love the profile in the sunglasses.

    We WERE robbed. She won. Too bad Barack Lincoln was able to cloud men’s eyes to have them declare victory.

    We are left with ‘what might have been’ had we elected the real deal and the real ‘change’.

  9. I loved the video, admin.

    It’s cool hearing the verse to MTM’s theme “Love is All Around”.

    I once heard an indie-rock version of it, quite excellent. The song stands up as a truly well written song.

    And I loved that show.

    Trivia. In “Anchorman” with Will Ferrell, Ron Burgundy’s dog is named “Baxter”. You know, as in Ted Baxter (played by Ted Knight).

  10. Admin, could you embed this image — this is my all time favorite, taken in 2000 on Truman terrace by Annie Leibotitz:

    artnet.com/Magazine/news/newthismonth/Images/walrobinson1-1-9s.jpg

  11. pm317 Says:

    February 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
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    I love that picture.

  12. CIA Director Leon Panetta and the Westminster Best Dog in Show
    February 13, 2009 By Paul Bedard,

    Leon Panetta today became the 19th director of the CIA. During a swearing in ceremony for the oldest-ever director, he noted that it’s been a good week for the elderly. To a small group of CIA biggies in his seventh-floor office, the 70-year-old Panetta got a load of laughs when he said: “I noticed in the press that they said I’m the oldest director to take charge of the CIA. But I would remind you that the ‘Best Dog in Show’ this year at the annual Westminster Kennel Club show was a dog that was 10 years old. So, I come here as the best dog in show.” He also issued a letter, printed below, to staffers in which he pledged to keep the agency independent of bias.

    A Message from Director Panetta

    With great pride and honor, I took the oath of office today to become Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Pride because it gives me another opportunity to serve the nation. Honor because I will lead a great organization that is on the front line of preserving our national security.

    When President Obama asked if I would accept this assignment, he said he wanted someone he could trust, who was independent, and who would call them as he sees them. Throughout my 40-year career in government, I have made it a point to speak honestly to my colleagues, my coworkers, my constituents, and my President. I hope that we can speak honestly to each other and to those we serve.

    At its best, intelligence gives our government the clearest possible picture of the world as it is. At its heart, intelligence is the solid base on which our country acts to build the world as it should be. It is a profession of risk, of courage, and of integrity. It is a calling for the dedicated, those who find reward not in public acclaim, but in silent duty.

    CIA holds a special place in American intelligence. Free of policy bias, it reports, analyzes, and informs. Its officers tackle the toughest national security problems. With unique authorities and capabilities, it acts boldly to change threats overseas into opportunities. It has a proud tradition of skill, bravery, and technical innovation. I will uphold our Agency’s commitment to stand by the law and the Constitution, to build trust with the Congress through vigorous oversight, and to promote effective partnerships inside and outside the Intelligence Community.

    Since my nomination, I have begun to see the Agency as it is now. This is a strong organization, and I commend Mike Hayden for improving its performance and morale through his leadership and patriotism. The challenge is to build on that success by continuing to shape CIA’s role in protecting the nation, a job we must always do with absolute integrity. It will be my task to ensure that we are equipped and prepared for the demands of today and tomorrow. In making decisions, I will count on the expertise of CIA professionals, starting with Steve Kappes, who has agreed to continue as Deputy Director. He embodies the Agency spirit of service before self. That clear and noble principle must guide the actions all of us take, from the Seventh Floor to the smallest, most distant base.

    CIA is called to do great things for our country—advance its interests, promote its values, oppose its enemies, and aid its allies. I look forward to working with all of you to make our mission America’s hope for a better and safer tomorrow.

    Leon E. Panetta

    usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/2/13/cia-director-leon-panetta-and-the-westminster-best-dog-in-show.html

  13. Remember Rev. Wright?
    A colleague of his has just been added to the roster of the Obama administration.
    by Meghan Clyne
    02/23/2009, Volume 014, Issue 22

    Back in May, when the furor over Jeremiah Wright threatened to derail the Obama campaign, the candidate mournfully explained his decision to leave the controversial Trinity United Church of Christ. “We don’t want to have to answer for everything that’s stated in a church,” Obama said. “On the other hand, we don’t want to have a church subjected to the scrutiny that a presidential campaign legitimately undergoes.” After Obama parted from Wright, the preacher and Trinity United became the campaign issue that dared not speak its name.

    Now the campaign is over and so, it appears, is the scrutiny–for the new president has just made a personnel decision that reopens the entire issue. Earlier this month, he appointed the Reverend Dr. Otis Moss Jr. to serve on the new President’s Advisory Council established as part of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. The official White House press release notes that Moss is the pastor emeritus of Cleveland’s Olivet Institutional Baptist Church. Not noted, however, are Moss’s many ties to Trinity and its troublesome former pastor.

    To begin with, Moss’s son, Reverend Otis Moss III, succeeded Wright at Trinity. The younger preacher is known for his own fiery sermons and for likening the backlash against Wright to a “public lynching.” The new member of the Obama administration, though, has plenty of ties to Wright on his own. Otis Moss Jr. and Wright shared a mentor in Samuel DeWitt Proctor, who helped give rise to black liberation theology. In fact, it was the radical Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference that sponsored Wright’s now-infamous National Press Club appearance in late April 2008–which led to Obama’s break with Trinity and Wright. Less noted was the fact that the symposium’s guest preacher that day was Reverend Otis Moss Jr. Moss has publicly defended Wright and compared his preaching to that of Amos, Micah, Malachi, and John the Baptist.

    Moss’s closeness to Wright is expressed most clearly in the 40-minute tribute sermon he preached from Trinity’s pulpit on the occasion of Wright’s 36th anniversary at the church in February 2008. Of Wright, Reverend Moss said: “All of us who know him and love him have been blessed by his genius, his creativity, his scholarship, his discipleship, his sensitivity as an artist, his boldness as a prophet, and, I agree, his rhythmic poetry.” This homage came long after Wright’s hit parade of sound-bites: “God Damn America” .  .  . “America’s chickens are coming home to roost” .  .  . “Bill did us like he did Monica Lewinsky.” Poetry indeed.

    Even more interesting, perhaps, is Moss’s own rhetoric. He is a political preacher and has said, “If you are preaching a gospel that has nothing about politics, nothing about economics, nothing about sociology, you are preaching an empty gospel with a cap and shoes but no body to it.” His sermons at Olivet are hard to come by. But from public lectures, one concludes that, while his style is more subdued than Wright’s (or his own son’s) and his themes more benign, there are still plenty of comments that call into question his suitability for government service. Take, for instance, this observation made at Yale in October 2004: You have heard that it was said, “God bless America.” But I say unto you, Pray for all of the Osama bin Ladens and the Saddam Husseins. .  .  . I say unto you, Be kind, be as kind to Castro as you are to the Saudi family and the leaders of China and Russia. This, however, is difficult in a society .  .  . when we are afflicted or infected with hubris. It’s almost an incurable disease–incurable not because of despair, but because of arrogance.

    A spokesman for Moss explains that he meant his audience to “understand that you must ‘pray for your enemies’ and those that would do you harm. No more, no less.” So in the spirit of Christ’s admonition to turn the other cheek, Moss wants us to pray for those who have killed thousands of American citizens within the last decade. Yet he’s still holding a 400-year-old grudge against the settlers of Jamestown. In a panel discussion on “the State of the Black Union” with Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, on the occasion of Jamestown’s quadricentennial, Moss noted:

    When we think of Jamestown, we must see the triple holocaust that came out of Jamestown .  .  . that African holocaust, that Native American holocaust, that African-American holocaust. And until we deal with that and place it in the collective memories of our own history, and the wider history of the world, we are in a state of denial–often celebrating when we need to be correcting the propaganda of history…

    *the article continues at the link below.

    weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/151zwvhg.asp

  14. Admin: Yes, two PERFECTLY suited videos for our Red Valentine Hillary on Big Pink…

    Her LOVE for our country and citizens is our best Valentine’s Day present of all. History will show, too, about the great love story of Hillary and Bill…even with all the ups and downs – love on so many levels, for each other, Chelsea, our country, our world, that few of us could ever comprehend.

    Had to lick my wounds late last night watching Hillary address Asian group on C-Span after the revolting Spector, Snowe and Collins pulling their Benedict Arnolds on us all……

    Hillary was AMAZING…knew I missed her, but seeing her speak with such wisdom, clarity on issues, and genuine concern for the US and entire world brought back the REAL HOPE our nation needs and was so therapeutic.

    Pointed up what a vast departure the Dimocratic Party has become.

    BTW, when looking ahead and thinking about a St. Paddy’s Day celeb on Big Pink…speaking of the wonderful Senator from NY HRC and her participation in March 17th parade, and that Irishman BC, check out fabulous youtube of another heroine Maureen O’Hara and hero, the Duke. (The Quiet Man! mgar88 – Please imbed)…….we don’t need current Hollywood legends….HRC and BC are a true legendary couple – Valentine’s, St. Paddy or otherwise, on par with The Best.

  15. birdgal, your link has the same picture. When I said closeup, I meant closeup of Hillary in the picture. Anyway, I will link it if I can find it.

  16. birdgal, thanks for the link though. It has some good pictures and the one with awnings looks really awful. Truman was right to insist on the balcony.

  17. The new welfare stimulus pkg.will be signed monday by the host of :my Price is Right oval office show.Where were you all out there before nov 4 th?Remember his constant campaign expression that he repeated over and over.”My Legacy of Restitution and Retribution will bear fruit”.It sure did folks .A culture of freeloaders has been born in greater numbers than ever in our history and we will pay dearly for generations not born yet.My parents brought my sister and me throughthe greatest depression ever and we learned a lesson that to this day that I use to be independant and proud.
    “Needs and Wants must always be kept in perspective and never confused if we are to survive as idividuals and as a nation.

    By ABM90 Enough said.I am off to Asia for a week of Hillary adrenalin as a steady diet.

  18. Happy Valentines to everyone and to my Inspiration
    SOS Hillary ..the only one who should be President..
    we would be on our way to prosperity by now..

    we this jeckle hyde liar..you notice he always ask
    his cabinet members..i want you to have this job to someone i know i can trust
    uh hhuh…this Bo has never been vetted or anything we dont know him
    i sure cant trust him..no way..after all he stoled the elction
    by acorn and fraud and overseas money..and axelrod is just as bad.
    Our children and grandchildren are in DEBT!!!!..what a way to run a Country..expecially one that the Land of the free,and home of the brave.

  19. from:

    politico.com/playbook/

    PUNDIT PREP – On “World News,” ABC’s Jonathan Karl holds up pages of the stimulus bill showing that hasty changes were HAND-WRITTEN on it before voting. With the stroke of a pen, $100 million becomes $150 million. $850 million becomes $1 billion.

  20. For all who have been discussing the Mid-September bank run – I can’t believe our luck.

    This coming Tuesday the entire FRONTLINE program is going to focus on that exact issue…10 pm ET on PBS. It is like the producers just knew we needed thorough and reliable factual information.

    I will post about the program a couple of times each day through Tuesday evening.

  21. UM…ER…AH….YA KNOW….: THE PRESS CONFERENCE

    OMG. The Jon Stewart skewering of Obama’s performance in his press conference was too good.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/14/erudite-hahahaha/#more-14330

    All the empty slogans and dreadfully long pauses of the debates, but this time as president. It completely reveals how unprepared the man is to lead the country. Heck, to lead a small town in Alaska even.

    And at the end, bringing up how highly Chris Tinglelegs felt about Obama’s performance is truly stunning: “He eloquent” “Thoughtful”. Chris, we gotta get you into hopium rehab right away.

  22. Happy Valentines Day All!

    Especially to Hillary and Admin!

    Have a wonderful safe trip, Madame Clinton.

    Your fan club will be keeping the howling dogs at bay and rooting for you from home..

    (Did everyone notice, the Slate, ‘Madame Secretary’ site gave up, packed her bags and went elsewhere?) The only thing good about that site were the graphics of Hillary.

    Cheers All!

  23. A year from now they will be running from this stimulus bill with statements like well we had to do something.

    The braindead governor of my state (a stupid Obama supporter) will be using the money to cover over a stretch of the highway with asphalt rather than making stuctrual improvements because the former would provide jobs quickly whereas the latter would require an engineering study to take time.

    In other words the lack of strings attached to this bill will mean poor decisions by state officials more concerned with local politics than long term improvements to infrastructure.

    I will say it again, a year from now they will be running from this bill.

  24. Admin: an arbitrator I know who is one of us Hillary supporters tells me that at one point Mr Obama put the figure of new jobs to be created by this bill (not saved–created) at 5 million. If that can be confirmed then so much the better. It will be important to document how many times that number changes over the next 24 months and how supervening causes are invoked and criteria get muddied. But we must not be . . . bamboozled. He made a bargain with the American People and we need to hold him to it. And when he tries to backpeddal we can play that portion of the Hillary Clinton is Wonderwoman video clip which pictures him in his Mussolini (Il Duce–no not la dolce vita–Il Duce dam it) with that great refrain “Make a Liar Tell The Truth”.

  25. rgb

    This is a very descriptive article about what that bill looked like before they got it cleaned up in the night.

    From the Caucus Blog at the NYT
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    February 13, 2009, 9:52 am
    Final Draft on Stimulus Bill, Complete With Last-Minute Edits
    By David M. Herszenhorn
    In an age when the president of the United States insists on carrying a BlackBerry and much of the United States Capitol has wireless Internet access, the final draft of the $789 billion economic stimulus measure posted late last night to the Web site of the House Rules Committee looks more like the Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 1979 than of 2009 – filled with hand-written copy-editing marks, insertions scrawled in the margins, deletions of whole paragraphs boxed with X’s slashing through them, and a variety of curious hash marks and other annotations.

    And in a bill totaling nearly $800 billion, some of the stray scribbles were worth vast sums of money.

    Mostly these days, drafts of legislation are distributed by electronic PDF, after being carefully adjusted by computer and polished to remove any evidence of frantic, all-night drafting sessions, pitched last-minute battles and the legalistic minutiae that often must be added to make the intent of Congress extra clear.

    But with lawmakers rushing to meet their deadline of sending the stimulus bill to President Obama by Monday, and House Democrats having said that they would post the bill for 48 hours of public review, there was little time for polishing. And the final version that went up on the Web at 10:45 p.m. offers a rare window into the mad cookery of complex legislation.

    The two pieces of the bill – a 496-page appropriations section, and a 577-page tax package – represent a Herculean effort on the part of staff members of the House and Senate Appropriations Committees, and the tax-writing Senate Finance and House Ways and Means committees.

    The larger tax package, which was completed earlier on Thursday, and distributed to reporters by e-mail, was scrubbed clean with no trace of myriad changes that were being made up to the last minute.

    In the appropriations package, which was the subject of on-going adjustments late into the night, most of the hand-edited changes were mundane. A note specifying where italic type should be used; missing words like “this” or “a” re-inserted; chapter titles adjusted to reflect the appropriate headings; notes calling for abbreviations of agencies whose titles have already been spelled out in full earlier on.

    But unlike the chicken-scratches on a draft of some doctoral thesis, the annotations in the stimulus bill in some cases are literally worth hundreds of millions of dollars. In the appropriations section, on page 10 of Title IV, for Energy and Water Development programs, a slightly arcing line, a quick hash mark through the number 4 and a 1 etched into the margins in its place, changed a $3.4 billion appropriation for a state energy program to a $3.1 billion appropriation. And so $300 million vanished with a stroke of a pen, perhaps to re-emerge on another page, for another priority.

    Just another moment’s work, behind the scenes, in Congress.

  26. Emjay I do not know if that is good news or not. Here is what I worry about.

    I would have been all in favor of the media doing this BEFORE the fact because that would have allowed people to protect themselves. But the fact is they knew about it and they did not disclose what they knew IN THE MOMENT. That was their sin.

    So now they come along AFTER the fact and present their interpretation of what occurred. And, to what end?

    What I see in this is an attempt to put the turd in Bush’s pocket and thereby absolve the people around Obama. Also to give him a defense when things dont turn around as he promised. Whether it is done subltley or not that is the agenda in my opinion. Just wait and see if I am right.

    This after the fact assessment should be conducted. But it is not the medias role to do it in my opinion. This is the job of a special prosector to conduct thorough investigation and connect the dots.

    Prosecutors are fact driven people who have the ability to weigh the evidence and come to reasoned conclusions. Typically they do not have a political agenda. Big media on the other hand does and has a motive to get even with bush and promote bambi.

    Shakespeare may have been right when he said first kill all the attorneys. But when it comes to something this consequential for the country, and we need to know what happened, our best resource at finding the truth is a capable prosecutor as opposed to a politically motivated journalist.

  27. This is a very descriptive article about what that bill looked like before they got it cleaned up in the night.
    —————————
    Incredible.

  28. Wbboei

    I got an email informing me that some of my money was going to be pulled and put in a commercial bank. About 2 hours earlier, VERY early in the morning, I rec’d a cell message asking for my permission for another agent to do sort of the same thing in a fund acct. connected to a state fund.

    I do not feel guilty of anything.

  29. Nor should you feel guilty. Your finacial representative did their job. The media should have been doing theirs for the sake of those who did not have the quality of financial representative you did. They are supposed to be informing the public and as we see here and elsewhere they do not. And yet they get the full protection of the First Amendement. There is no other country on earth that gives that kind of protection to the media. They are not patriots with printing pressed but irresponsible, overrreaching self servint conglomerates who abuse the public trust. They are the ones who should feel guilty.

  30. Thanks Admin

    I can turn a phrase, and I am a ferocious researcher and student…but I cannot type for sheet. I am always so grateful for something like Frontline, Bill Moyers’ Journal, Dave Brancaschio’s NOW, or the Center for investigative Journalism’s EXPOSE’ – because of their staffs and contacts, they are able to present so much information and facts and evidence and contradictions.

    Thanks for the trailer…even that has more impact here than me trying to type out what the program is going to present.

    I also notice they are intimating in the trailer that it is to be an ongoing investigation.

  31. wbboei Says:

    February 14th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
    A year from now they will be running from this stimulus bill with statements like well we had to do something.
    ————————————–
    you might be interested in this: Charles Krauthammer Says It All On Fox’s “Special Report with Bret Baier”.

    It is about the 6th or 7th blog down on No Quarter.

    CK has the same feelings you do and Juan Williams is concerned about the non-bipartisinship fallout for the rest of Bobo,s term.

  32. wbboei

    I do not believe that Frontline journalists are politically motivated. Otherwise Frontline, and other programs I have mentioned to you, sent to you or to which I have steered you, would not be held in such high esteem…year after year after year.

  33. We have been fighting big media here on this site for nearly two years. We realize how biased they have been and how they have withheld information favorable to Hillary, or detrimental to Mr Obama.

    However, people who do not follow this site are more inclined to accept what big media says at face value and it is hard to convince them otherwise.

    That is why the failure of big media to report what they knew about this financial debacle in the moment is important.

    If the people we are trying to convince or their friends were hurt by it as a number of mine were they will be inclined then this episode may be enough to convince them that big media withholds relevant info and cannot be trusted. That is why I am interested.

    The argument rests on three (3) assumptions–i) that something extraordinary happened on September 15, ii) that big media knew about it and iii) they failed to report it to the public so people could protect themselves before the stock market collapsed and they lost a sizeable chunk of their net worth. Lets take them one at a time.

    First, I did not realize that something extraordinary happened on September 15 until I saw the kanjorski interiew on c-span that admin posted. When I heard it it hit me like a ton of bricks. (Note: I understand Rush is making noise about that as well, but I do not listen to him.)

    Second, when I saw the clip, I did not realize this information was well known to financial people outside the federal reserve or congresss. Then I talked to my friend and as I reported yesterday, all his brothers basketball team of financial people were MIA that week because they knew about this and were moving money.

    If those mid level financial people knew about it at the time it happened then you can be sure that big media did too. Why? Because while New York may be a big city, it is a small town when it comes to financial information. There are enough friendships, business relationships and watering holes in lower Manhattan to ensure big media knew about this greatest financial debacle since the great depression on the day it happened. Trust me.

    Third, Big Media failed to disseminate this information to the public so the public could take appropriate steps to protect itself, unless they happened to have financial people who were really on their toes, and their portfolios were relatively liquid. And that is exactly what they do in the political sphere as well–withhold relevant information, and the end result can be equally damaging.

    I think this may be a perfect example to harpoon the big media whale with people who are otherwise skeptical that when it comes to big media what they fail to tell you can hurt you.

  34. We might have an investigation of the biggies in the MSM and see what their holdings were and when they sold and what they bought and put it up against what they told their readers about the run on the stocks or the bailout or the stimulus.

    Think they were looking out for us?

  35. We will be writing more about this, but for now here is a “sneak peek” release from PBS on the Frontline series “Inside the Meltdown”:

    “Moral hazard” sneak peek part 2:

  36. I do not believe that Frontline journalists are politically motivated. Otherwise Frontline, and other programs I have mentioned to you, sent to you or to which I have steered you, would not be held in such high esteem…year after year after year.
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    Hi Emjay. I know you place high value on these news programs. And you know I have expressed some skepticism about them. The one we do agree about is Jim Leherer because you get an in depth analysis and both sides of an issue–journalism as it should be practiced.

    I think Frontline is different. I think they have an agenda. It is to tell a story, arrive at a predetermined result, inject a sense of drama and marshall the supporting evidence–and rejecting contrary evidence.

    Since I do not have a television, I will rely on you to watch the program and tell me that I am wrong afterwards. You know what my concerns are. But it is after all apres le deluge.

  37. We might have an investigation of the biggies in the MSM and see what their holdings were and when they sold and what they bought and put it up against what they told their readers about the run on the stocks or the bailout or the stimulus.

    Think they were looking out for us?
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    Freckles> right on! my sentiments exactly. They were no more looking out for the public interest when they suppressed information on the economic crisis than they were when they suppressed favorable information on Hillary and unfavorable information on Mr Obama, ergo they cannot be trusted. And yes, for sure, they protected themselves.

  38. Emjay: I saw the latest copy of Foreign Affairs Magazine today and there was an article by Russell Meade or somebody stating that the financial collapse was not caused by the housing crisis but by an imbalance in liquidity in the world, whereby China has so many trillions in savings that the bubble was inevitable. So it would be interesting to know whether Frontline discusses that possibility–a systemic imbalance as the cause in fact.

  39. wbboei

    Found this on Frontline Online- it is pretty much what was in the WSJ and the Financial Times and the NYT at the time:

    http://www.pbs.org/frontline/meltdown

    On Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008, the astonished leadership of the U.S. Congress was told in a private session by the chairman of the Federal Reserve that the American economy was in grave danger of a complete meltdown within a matter of days. “There was literally a pause in that room where the oxygen left,” says Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.).

    FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk goes behind closed doors in Washington and on Wall Street to investigate how the economy went so bad so fast and why emergency actions by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson failed to prevent the worst economic crisis in a generation on Inside the Meltdown, airing Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2009, at 9 P.M. ET on PBS (check local listings).

    As the housing bubble burst and trillions of dollars’ worth of toxic mortgages began to go bad in 2007, fear spread through the massive firms that form the heart of Wall Street. By the spring of 2008, burdened by billions of dollars of bad mortgages, the investment bank Bear Stearns was the subject of rumors that it would soon fail.

    “Rumors are such that they can just plain put you out of business,” Bear Stearns’ former CEO Alan “Ace” Greenberg tells FRONTLINE.

    The company’s stock had dropped from $171 to $57 a share, and it was hours from declaring bankruptcy. Ben Bernanke acted. “It was clear that this had to be contained. There was no doubt in his mind,” says Bernanke’s colleague economist Mark Gertler.

    Bernanke, a former economics professor from Princeton, specialized in studying the Great Depression. “He more than anybody else appreciated what would happen if it got out of control,” Gertler explains.

    To stabilize the markets, Bernanke engineered a shotgun marriage between Bear Sterns and the commercial bank JPMorgan, with a promise that the federal government would use $30 billion to cover Bear Stearns’ questionable assets tied to toxic mortgages. It was an unprecedented effort to stop the contagion of fear that seemed to be threatening the rest of Wall Street.

    While publicly supportive of the deal, Secretary Paulson, a former Wall Street executive with Goldman Sachs, was uncomfortable with government interference in the markets. That summer, he issued a warning to his former colleagues not to expect future government bailouts, saying he was concerned about a legal concept known as moral hazard.

    Within months, however, Paulson would witness the virtual collapse of the giant mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and preside over their takeover by the federal government.

    The episode sent shockwaves through the economy as confidence in Wall Street began to evaporate. Within days, in September 2008, another investment bank, Lehman Brothers, was on the brink of collapse. Once again, there were calls for Bernanke and Paulson to bail out the Wall Street giant. But Paulson was under intense political pressure from conservative Republicans in Washington to invoke moral hazard and let the company fail.

    “You had a conservative secretary of the Treasury and conservative administration. There was right-wing criticism over Bear Stearns,” says Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

    Paulson pushed Lehman’s CEO Dick Fuld to find a buyer for his ailing company. But no company would buy Lehman unless the government offered a deal similar to the one Bear Stearns had received. Paulson refused, and Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy.

    FRONTLINE then chronicles the disaster that followed. Within 24 hours, the stock market crashed, and credit markets around the world froze. “We’re no longer talking about mortgages,” says economist Gertler. “We’re talking about car loans, loans to small businesses, commercial paper borrowing by large banks. This is like a disease spreading.”

    “I think that the secretary of the Treasury could not fully comprehend what that linkage was and the extent to which this would materialize into problems,” says former Lehman board member Henry Kaufman.

    Paulson was thunderstruck. “This is the utter nightmare of an economic policy-maker,” Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman tells FRONTLINE. “You may have just made the decision that destroyed the world. Absolutely terrifying moment.”

    In response, Paulson and Bernanke would propose—and Congress would eventually pass—a $700 billion bailout plan. FRONTLINE goes inside the deliberations surrounding the passage of the legislation and examines its unsuccessful implementation.

    “Many Americans still don’t understand what has happened to the economy,” FRONTLINE producer/director Michael Kirk says. “How did it all go so bad so quickly? Who is responsible? How effective has the response from Washington and Wall Street been? Those are the questions at the heart of Inside the Meltdown.”

  40. The orignal is in moderation

    wbboei

    Found this on Frontline Online- it is pretty much what was in the WSJ and the Financial Times and the NYT at the time:

    pbs.org/frontline/meltdown

    On Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008, the astonished leadership of the U.S. Congress was told in a private session by the chairman of the Federal Reserve that the American economy was in grave danger of a complete meltdown within a matter of days. “There was literally a pause in that room where the oxygen left,” says Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.).

    FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk goes behind closed doors in Washington and on Wall Street to investigate how the economy went so bad so fast and why emergency actions by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson failed to prevent the worst economic crisis in a generation on Inside the Meltdown, airing Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2009, at 9 P.M. ET on PBS (check local listings).

    As the housing bubble burst and trillions of dollars’ worth of toxic mortgages began to go bad in 2007, fear spread through the massive firms that form the heart of Wall Street. By the spring of 2008, burdened by billions of dollars of bad mortgages, the investment bank Bear Stearns was the subject of rumors that it would soon fail.

    “Rumors are such that they can just plain put you out of business,” Bear Stearns’ former CEO Alan “Ace” Greenberg tells FRONTLINE.

    The company’s stock had dropped from $171 to $57 a share, and it was hours from declaring bankruptcy. Ben Bernanke acted. “It was clear that this had to be contained. There was no doubt in his mind,” says Bernanke’s colleague economist Mark Gertler.

    Bernanke, a former economics professor from Princeton, specialized in studying the Great Depression. “He more than anybody else appreciated what would happen if it got out of control,” Gertler explains.

    To stabilize the markets, Bernanke engineered a shotgun marriage between Bear Sterns and the commercial bank JPMorgan, with a promise that the federal government would use $30 billion to cover Bear Stearns’ questionable assets tied to toxic mortgages. It was an unprecedented effort to stop the contagion of fear that seemed to be threatening the rest of Wall Street.

    While publicly supportive of the deal, Secretary Paulson, a former Wall Street executive with Goldman Sachs, was uncomfortable with government interference in the markets. That summer, he issued a warning to his former colleagues not to expect future government bailouts, saying he was concerned about a legal concept known as moral hazard.

    Within months, however, Paulson would witness the virtual collapse of the giant mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and preside over their takeover by the federal government.

    The episode sent shockwaves through the economy as confidence in Wall Street began to evaporate. Within days, in September 2008, another investment bank, Lehman Brothers, was on the brink of collapse. Once again, there were calls for Bernanke and Paulson to bail out the Wall Street giant. But Paulson was under intense political pressure from conservative Republicans in Washington to invoke moral hazard and let the company fail.

    “You had a conservative secretary of the Treasury and conservative administration. There was right-wing criticism over Bear Stearns,” says Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

    Paulson pushed Lehman’s CEO Dick Fuld to find a buyer for his ailing company. But no company would buy Lehman unless the government offered a deal similar to the one Bear Stearns had received. Paulson refused, and Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy.

    FRONTLINE then chronicles the disaster that followed. Within 24 hours, the stock market crashed, and credit markets around the world froze. “We’re no longer talking about mortgages,” says economist Gertler. “We’re talking about car loans, loans to small businesses, commercial paper borrowing by large banks. This is like a disease spreading.”

    “I think that the secretary of the Treasury could not fully comprehend what that linkage was and the extent to which this would materialize into problems,” says former Lehman board member Henry Kaufman.

    Paulson was thunderstruck. “This is the utter nightmare of an economic policy-maker,” Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman tells FRONTLINE. “You may have just made the decision that destroyed the world. Absolutely terrifying moment.”

    In response, Paulson and Bernanke would propose—and Congress would eventually pass—a $700 billion bailout plan. FRONTLINE goes inside the deliberations surrounding the passage of the legislation and examines its unsuccessful implementation.

    “Many Americans still don’t understand what has happened to the economy,” FRONTLINE producer/director Michael Kirk says. “How did it all go so bad so quickly? Who is responsible? How effective has the response from Washington and Wall Street been? Those are the questions at the heart of Inside the Meltdown.”

  41. wbboei,
    You know what my concerns are. But it is after all apres le deluge.

    ====================

    :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

  42. Speaking of Social Security, is anybody reading AARP these days? Their paper magazine got thin and flashy, so I no longer trust it.

  43. Asia welcomes Clinton, and renewed attention

    By Martin Fackler, Mark Landler and Choe Sang-Hun Published: February 15, 2009

    TOKYO: When Hillary Rodham Clinton visits China and other Asian nations this week in her first trip abroad as U.S. secretary of state, she will not just be breaking with the tradition that America’s top diplomat visit Europe or the Middle East first. She will also be signaling the new administration’s determination to take a fresh – and less confrontational – approach to diplomacy in the region, making China and other Asian nations a higher diplomatic priority than the previous administration.

    Not since Dean Rusk in the 1960s has a new secretary of state flown across the Pacific Ocean rather than the Atlantic on a first trip. (Rusk was involved in diplomacy with Korea and Japan). In her first major speech as secretary of state on Friday, Clinton sought to draw a clear line between the policies of President Barack Obama and George W. Bush.
    “There has been a general feeling that perhaps we didn’t pay an appropriate amount of attention to Asia over the last years,” she said at the Asia Society in New York last Friday, two days before she departed for her trip on Sunday.

    Clinton also called for “rigorous and persistent engagement” not just with China, but also with Japan, Indonesia and South Korea, which are also on her itinerary.

    Clinton’s trip comes as North Korea revs up uneasiness in the region by threatening naval skirmishes with South Korea, a U.S. ally, and engaging in what analysts and officials in the region consider possible preparations to launch a ballistic missile designed to reach as far as Alaska. Analysts in Seoul say that such moves from North Korea have two-prolonged aims: putting pressure on President Lee Myung Bak of South Korea to reverse his hard-line policy and to resume shipping free aid to the impoverished North while grabbing attention of the Obama administration.

    “We will develop relations with countries that treat us friendly,” Kim Yong Nam, North Korea’s No. 2 leader, said on Sunday during a national meeting held as part of celebrations on the eve of the 67th birthday of the supreme leader Kim Jong Il.

    In recent months, North Korea has increased its rhetoric against Seoul, calling Lee a “pro-U.S. traitor,” vowing an “all-out confrontational posture” and canceling all non-aggression agreements with the South. At the same time, it has held out an olive branch to Obama, voicing its willingness to engage in bilateral talks with Washington to extract economic and political concessions. Kim Yong Nam, who serves as North Korea’s ceremonial head of state, continued the North’s oratory against Lee on Sunday, urging all Koreans to deal “an iron hammer blow to anti-unification forces in South Korea that are bringing the catastrophe of a nuclear war.”

    When Clinton meets with Lee and other South Korean leaders in Seoul later this week, they will discuss the difficult task of how to bring North Korea back to talks on ending its nuclear weapons programs while reversing the rapidly chilling relations between the two Koreas.

    Meanwhile, in Japan, Clinton’s first stop, the visit has been welcomed as a sign that the Obama administration will not neglect Tokyo, one of Washington’s oldest allies in the region. There had been wide fears there that a Democratic White House could pass over Japan as it focuses on more pressing issues like the war in Afghanistan or an economically ascendant Beijing. Japan is also hoping to lobby Clinton into pressuring North Korea to account for Japanese citizens it reportedly abducted during the 1970s and 1980s, a highly emotional issue in Japan that the United States has viewed as a distraction to talks with the North about its nuclear program. Clinton has agreed to meet with families of abductees. She will also meet Japan’s leading opposition political leader, Ichiro Ozawa, whose party could win control of government in elections later this year but who seemed to feel neglected by the Bush administration.

    Clinton intends to sign an agreement in Japan that will see 8,000 U.S. marines now stationed in Okinawa relocate to Guam and will commit the Japanese government to helping pay for further realignment of U.S. forces, The Associated Press reported from Washington, quoting officials.

    Still, Clinton spoke mostly of China on Friday in New York, signaling that she would take a new, more vigorous approach in relations with Beijing. She said she intended to break with the Bush White House, which viewed China more as a rival than a partner, declaring that the United States had nothing to fear from an economically ascendant Beijing. Unlike the previous administration, which kept relations with Beijing fixed on narrow economic matters like exchange rates, Clinton said she would press Chinese leaders on delicate issues like human rights and climate change. She also took note of Tibet, saying that Tibetans had a right to practice their religion without persecution. “Some believe that China on the rise is by definition an adversary,” she said. “To the contrary, we believe the United States and China benefit from, and contribute to, each other’s successes.”

    Climate change will figure high on Clinton’s agenda in Beijing, where she said she would emphasize how the two countries must work together. She plans to visit an energy-efficient power plant near Beijing that is a joint venture of General Electric and a Chinese partner.
    While Clinton noted that China had recently surpassed the United States as the world’s largest emitter of carbon dioxide, she was critical of American policies, too, saying that the stimulus package just passed by the House of Representatives in Congress was lacking measures that would promote more energy efficiency.

    In one sign of a fresh start, Clinton said the United States and China would resume middle-level exchanges between their militaries, which China suspended because of U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

    iht.com/articles/2009/02/15/asia/clinton.php

  44. Clinton to visit Israel, ME in March
    By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT

    Hillary Clinton will likely make her first trip to Israel as secretary of state at the beginning of March, according to State Department officials. Though her trip has not been confirmed or officially announced, she is expected to come as part of a visit to participate in the donors’ conference for Palestinians being organized by Egypt on March 2.

    Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit told reporters during a trip to Washington on Thursday that Clinton would be making the trip. “The secretary will be coming to Cairo on the second of March,” Aboul Gheit said. “We expect lots of commitments from everybody, lots of commitments for reconstruction.”

    The United States has already contributed nearly $60 million since the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza this winter, most of it going to international institutions on the ground in Gaza, including the United Nations and Red Cross. The State Department spokesman’s office strongly welcomed Egypt’s decision to host a donors’ conference and is calling on other international parties to participate.

    The State Department described the conference as an “opportunity to address, along with other donors and international organizations, the immediate humanitarian suffering in Gaza and support the Palestinian Authority’s plan for the reconstruction of Gaza as an integral part of a future Palestinian state.”

    The US is also eager to show its appreciation to Egypt for working to bring a cease-fire between the different parties and playing a high-profile role in addressing the conflict, according to observers. Meanwhile, more than 50 members of the US House of Representatives signed a letter to Clinton calling on her to halt US contributions to the United Nations Relief Works Agency until more stringent reviews show whether any Palestinian terrorists are receiving money from the refugee organization.

    The letter, co-authored by Steve Rothman (D-New Jersey) and Mark Kirk (R-Illinois), said the representatives support US assistance to Palestinians but want to make sure none of it is reaching Hamas supporters. A bill sponsored by House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Florida) and submitted this week makes a similar demand, and also calls on the United States to push for Israel to be included in the European bloc at the United Nations so that it can participate as a full member in the world body.

    Meanwhile Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, who heads the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, will travel to Syria as well as Israel, the West Bank, Jordan and Egypt this week, according to his office. He reportedly will be meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad while in Damascus, following a congressional delegation’s visit to the Syrian leader earlier this year. Kerry’s planned visit, as well as that by House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman of California, follow statements by President Barack Obama that the US is looking to engage Syria.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304779222&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  45. McConnell, Senate Republicans helpless to shape stimulus bill

    By HALIMAH ABDULLAH

    In the first major test of his power as the titular head of a dwindled Republican caucus, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell found himself outmaneuvered and outnumbered as he faced off against a Democratic majority on an Obama administration-backed $787 billion economic stimulus package.

    “This legislation was driven by the White House, House Democrats and the Senate Democrats,” said Larry Sabato, political science professor at the University of Virginia. “McConnell is in a terrible position. The Democrats have a hand full of aces. He has a bunch of twos.” The final version of the economic stimulus package passed the Senate late Friday night on a largely partisan vote. The House of Representatives passed the final version of the bill on a vote of 246-183, with no Republican support.

    President Barack Obama is expected to sign the bill as soon as Monday. The White House has said the package will help resuscitate the nation’s ailing economy by offering tax relief and creating or saving 3.5 million jobs. States will net $27.5 billion to modernize roads and bridges, $53.6 billion to help offset education costs and $87 billion for Medicaid.

    McConnell and fellow Republicans said that the aid comes at too steep a price, contains too much entitlement spending, doesn’t do enough to help financially strapped homeowners and doesn’t contain enough tax cuts – a provision Republicans see as vital to shoring up the private sector. “This week, congressional Democrats are handing taxpayers a bill for $1.2 trillion,” McConnell said on the Senate floor Friday. “Soon, they’ll spend $400 billion to finish up spending from last year. We’re being told to get ready for untold hundreds of billions for the financial industry.”

    “Since taking over Congress and the White House, Democrats have been making up for lost time with a government spending spree on the taxpayer credit card,” McConnell said. “Even without this massive spending bill, the deficit continues to grow.” Ultimately, there was another set of numbers that McConnell just couldn’t overcome. Republicans hold 178 of the House’s 435 seats and 41 of the 100 Senate seats – numbers too small to merit much say in crafting the compromise legislation. Instead, McConnell was forced to watch as moderate Republican Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania joined Democrats on key votes on the economic stimulus package and took a lead role in helping shape the legislation. The three Northeastern senators have sided with Democrats on some social issues in the past, they hail from a region of the country where the GOP’s legislative ranks have thinned significantly, and they represent many moderate to left-leaning voters in their home states. Early on, the Obama administration made overtures to the moderate Republicans, and Obama and Vice President Joe Biden called and transition officials met with the two Maine senators to discuss the stimulus proposal.

    McConnell countered by urging his party members to hold the line during procedural fights to give the Republicans more room to negotiate. He took to the airwaves in a Saturday radio address and on Sunday morning talk shows to underscore his caucus’s disagreement with the size, cost and scope of the stimulus package. Conservative Republicans, such as Sen. Jim Bunning of Kentucky and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, followed suit with a series of press conferences highlighting concerns over the legislation’s ballooning price tag.

    “If we really want to stimulate the economy, we need to focus our attention on tax cuts for individuals, investment and businesses,” Bunning said. “We need to enact legislation that will have a direct and immediate impact. We need a bill that will create more jobs through targeted tax relief; not a bill that spends money on programs that offer no immediate return to the American taxpayers.”

    kansascity.com/444/story/1035552.html

  46. Admin – Thanks for the heads up on the NCPSSM. Actually it sounds reasonably on the up and up if you check out Kennelly’s testimony at h t t p://w w w.ncpssm.org/news/archive/ma_marketing_abuse/
    Further, the letter sample she urges me to send to my utterly worthless congressman is all positive about preserving benefits in SS and Medicare. All generalities, mind you, but all positive sounding.
    All the same, she is asking for support to lobby CONGRESS – not the White House, so my skepticism grows.

    I wonder if others in our merry little band have received similar blandishments and what their general reaction is. It surely is a fact that the next targets for REFORM (reduction) will be SS and Medicare.

  47. McConnell, Senate Republicans helpless to shape stimulus bill
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    Put differently, this was not a bi partisan bill. The white house owns– it for better or for worse. And even though Pelosi wrote it. If it works and produces the celestial choirs, well then he can claim success. If it does not work, and if the current situation gets worse then the questions elicited earlier will be asked again with a sense of urgency and desperation: what did it cost, why did no one read it, what was the alternative, why are they asking for more money now, why is the dollar worthless, who benefitted from this bill, why is small business failing, have they done more harm than good, and have they hijacked our economy as well as our democracy whats left? We agree with you that bush was bad, but he is no longer president. You were hired to get us out of this mess and all you have done is make it worse.

  48. For those of you interested in secularism, religion, or religious secularism, philosopy and exploring the nexus of any of the above, I recommend today’s NPR broadcast of Speaking of Faith.

    With David Brooks and EJ Dione, (I’m not kidding) Krista Tippit explores the work of Reinhold Niebuhr, theologian and philosopher, and his impact on US politics, and politicians…right now most importantly, Barack Obama.

    There is a full podcast and a ton of extra material at website – Speaking Of Faith.

  49. Do I have this right?

    The stimulus bill had to be voted on on Friday soon after it was printed (sort of) when not a sould could have read it and now it waits for days on the prez’s desk.

    Couldn’t it have waited till at least Monday so that some could read some of it?

  50. Do I have this right?

    The stimulus bill had to be voted on on Friday soon after it was printed (sort of) when not a sould could have read it and now it waits for days on the prez’s desk.

    Couldn’t it have waited till at least Monday so that some could read some of it?’
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    Good point. It suggests that they did not want our representatives to read it before they voted. If it was a bi partisan bill and they feared a Republican retreat that would be a legitimate political reason to act quickly. But that was not the case. The reason they acted in haste is because they did not want the public to see how they intended to spend their money. They wanted a blank check and that is what they got. I have no sympathy for the Republicans, believe me. I do have sympathy for the country which is apt to be the big loser on this mindless rush to judgment. Remember Kanjorski said as bad as the situation is he favored stepping back and making sure we knew what we were doing here. I am sure he and other sceptics were forced by party discipline. Batten down the hatches.

  51. Burris may be impeached – he lied under oath Burris may be going down….

    http:// http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-roland-burris-rod-blagojevich-090214,0,5637413.story

    Burris changes story on Senate seat (Now Blago asked him 3 times for “donations”)

    U.S. Sen. Roland Burris has changed his story again about what happened before ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich appointed him to the Senate, and state Republican leaders said Saturday they want an investigation into whether he perjured himself.

    Burris gradually has acknowledged deeper contacts with Blagojevich allies after initially portraying himself as a surprise pick for the controversial seat the former governor is accused of trying to sell.

    But Illinois House Republican leaders said they now wonder if Burris purposely deceived the public while under oath last month by not telling a special House impeachment panel that Blagojevich’s brother asked for fundraising help before the now-disgraced ex-governor appointed him.

    read on…….

  52. Burris may be impeached – he lied under oath Burris may be going down….seems he may have done Blago favours.

    Chicago Tribune

    Burris changes story on Senate seat (Now Blago asked him 3 times for “donations”)

    U.S. Sen. Roland Burris has changed his story again about what happened before ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich appointed him to the Senate, and state Republican leaders said Saturday they want an investigation into whether he perjured himself.

    Burris gradually has acknowledged deeper contacts with Blagojevich allies after initially portraying himself as a surprise pick for the controversial seat the former governor is accused of trying to sell.

    But Illinois House Republican leaders said they now wonder if Burris purposely deceived the public while under oath last month by not telling a special House impeachment panel that Blagojevich’s brother asked for fundraising help before the now-disgraced ex-governor appointed him.

    read on…….

  53. wbboei

    “Not since Dean Rusk in the 1960s has a new secretary of state flown across the Pacific Ocean rather than the Atlantic on a first trip. (Rusk was involved in diplomacy with Korea and Japan).”

    You and I made the first Rusk-Clinton comparison, n’est pas? Now the smart media types are climbing on the train.

    All aboard!

  54. Sunday talk shows all over the place praising their messiah for winning round one, getting more in a stimulus package than any other president ever has, and getting it achieved faster than any other president ever has.

    Makes Me Sick!

  55. With David Brooks and EJ Dione, (I’m not kidding) Krista Tippit explores the work of Reinhold Niebuhr, theologian and philosopher, and his impact on US politics, and politicians…right now most importantly, Barack Obama
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    That is an interesting insight. It suggests an explanation for this collective retreat from the critical thinking of the Enlightenment and reversion into faith based thinking and a childlike sense of innocence which has gripped large segements of the public in the face of forces which they do not understand and do not know how to confront.

    Jefferson of course realized the dangers of this when he wrote the First Amendment which provides for the separation of church and state, and the much older biblical prescription to render to God what is God’s and Caesar what is Caesar’s. When that separation is lost we get a quasi religious demogogue.

    I doubt that is what Brooks.

  56. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

    Obama Collector’s Coins Turn Out To Be Stickers Stuck On Regular Coins
    By Chris Walters, 6:32 PM on Sat Feb 14 2009, 14,920 views

    You may have seen the commercial where Montel Williams hawks some goofy collectible coins with President Obama’s face IN FULL COLOR OMG. If you were planning on ordering some, though, watch this video from KATU 2 TV in Portland, Oregon first.* A father and daughter bought the coins and discovered that they’re just regular money with color stickers applied. One of the news anchors even comments that she could see the face on the coin through the sticker when she looked at it from the side.

    The company that’s scamming them, U.S. Coin Network (uscoinnetwork.com and obamacoincollection.com), won’t let them cancel the remaining orders they placed that haven’t shipped yet, either.

    We think this looks like the sort of thing the feds may want to get involved in. And if they don’t do anything about it, we’re going to go buy some new ink for the old color printer and start selling collectible Obama Pennies online.

    http://consumerist.com/5153770/obama-collectors-coins-turn-out-to-be-stickers-stuck-on-regular-coins

  57. Emjay-so what is your take on the religious angle. It explains bambis recruitment of right wing religious nuts like Warren.

  58. djia Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

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    Just like the man himself…sticky on the outside and hollow within.

  59. Axlegrease on Sunday programs again this am…why his resurrgence now?

    He is NOT interview material -” and ah, ah but but what we were not ah ah going to do was here’s what kind of interested me, I didn’t hear anyone complaining…

    let’s put people to work, the president went to BOTH House conferences, we want cooperation, we want everyone in, not out…

    whaatt !!!!

    jeesch…

  60. wbboei

    “Not since Dean Rusk in the 1960s has a new secretary of state flown across the Pacific Ocean rather than the Atlantic on a first trip. (Rusk was involved in diplomacy with Korea and Japan).”

    You and I made the first Rusk-Clinton comparison, n’est pas? Now the smart media types are climbing on the train.

    All aboard!
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    Yes. But you know, I see her even more than that. I see her as a greater than Marshall. The pundocracy is too narrow minded, too self absorbed and too corrupt to see it but in time it will be obvious. The dynamics here are very interesting to watch. On the one hand the emergence of a great leader on a world stage namely Hillary. On the other hand, in time a god that failed in Mr Obama. That will be the evolution. But you have to be patient through all these comical attempts to prop him up.

    (Note: the use of the term Mr Obama is purposeful. It avoids the words president and the necessary rejoinder of why he is not my president, namely because he was not chosen by the people and he cheated to get there)

  61. “And ah, ah but but what we were not ah ah”

    That must be how the REAL Chicago mob speaks…….and here we all thought it was a god father hushed tone… ha ha ha! NOT

  62. let’s put people to work, the president went to BOTH House conferences, we want cooperation, we want everyone in, not out…
    ———————–
    Does not square with the facts. The stimulus albatross was rushed through, people were not allowed to read it, there was significant opposition which was ignored and snidly whiplash axelrod says we want everyone in not out? The statement is disingenous on its face and he is a farce. Perhaps he is there to make Gibbs look good.

  63. freckles Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
    Do I have this right?

    The stimulus bill had to be voted on on Friday soon after it was printed (sort of) when not a sould could have read it and now it waits for days on the prez’s desk.

    Couldn’t it have waited till at least Monday so that some could read some of it?
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    I don’t care whether my rep read it – they probably would not have anyway.

    What pisses me off is WHERE IS MY FIVE DAYS ONLINE THAT WAS PROMISED TO ME by first, candidate, and then president-elect, Obama.

    I wanted to read it before the legislature voted, as I WAS PROMISED!

  64. we used to have a poster from china, i think. “paddy4hill?” anyway, would be great to get some real feedback from the far east.

  65. That must be how the REAL Chicago mob speaks…….
    ———————
    I dont know how they speak today but that is how they used to talk. It is strange they put him out there. He does not convey credibility.

  66. I wanted to read it before the legislature voted, as I WAS PROMISED
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    “Promises are like piecrusts. Made to be broken”- Vladimir Lenin. Or was it perchance Mr. Obama?

  67. I think we may be missing something here. We look at Axelrod and say liar. The thinking segment of the general population is at least sceptical of the guy. Yet big media treats him as a celebrity and one of their own. Why? I think it is because they were co conspirators in the primary. South Dakota and the Bobby Kennedy remark are a perfect case in point. Big Media was a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign. Viewed in that light it is hardly surprising that they would feed him softballs and let him get away with things like that. Also they are hoping for a media bailout so I am told.

  68. wbboei Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    Emjay-so what is your take on the religious angle. It explains bambis recruitment of right wing religious nuts like Warren.
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    Don’t want to revert to being an academic my friend, but…

    Niebuhr’s take on politics and the world, including religion, does not speak to “right wing religious nuts like Warren.’

    “Niebuhr’s merger of intellect, faith, and realism speaks to a new era of American turmoil and power. Democracy, Reinhold Niebuhr famously said, ‘is a method of finding proximate solutions for insoluble problems'” according to Tippet.

    Let us who are interested in debate on this topic at least listen to this week’s Speaking Of Faith to get a grounding in Niebuhr before we chain Wright, Moss, Sr and Moss Jr and right wing-nuts, etc to him.

    I want us here to continue to be known as people who know whereof we speak.

  69. Wbboei

    I am not as highly educated [although educated] or as versed in politics past or present time as many like your self that post here.

    But i must say not one person in connection with THE FRAUD has ever conveyed credibility or confidence from me or to me.

    excluding Hillary and Bill of course.

    I have absorbed politics on a second by second basis for 2 years now and have so much yet to learn and everything i have learned so far has me so sick to my stomach and scared so much so that i have no control and i don’t know what i can do to help turn this shit around.

    Sometimes, I wish i could go back to being politically naive.
    as in unaware of the doom to come to this country because everyone who is supposed to protect this country is either asleep at the wheel with blinders on dreaming of false hope and change and praising the false messiah or is helping to drive the bus called America off the cliff.

    Is America going to end like THELMA & LOUISE ?

  70. Alert FOX waiting to cover SoS Hillary arrival at the departure site for her Asia trip.Chris Wallace has had three segments so far on her trip.All positive.It is about time.Hope they keep up coverage.This major event needs to be front page news.World peace is as stake.

    By ABM90 Obama back home recuperating by shooting hoops.This should have been a great event for him to be there to see her off but his ego no doubt revolted at the thought of being upstaged by the real president.

  71. Djia, the B.O. “collector” coins and the “stimulus” scam tell the same time worn truth: A fool and his money are soon parted.

  72. wbboei Says: It is strange they put him [Axelrod] out there. He does not convey credibility.

    ==================

    I was surprised to see some big MSM thing (NYT?) making him (and some other Obama campaing person) out as a good guy opposed to their bad guy picture of Geithner on the Stimulus bill’s provisions.

  73. Ahead of Asia trip, Clinton pledges engagement

    By MATTHEW LEE – 4 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is ready to deliver a message about the Obama administration’s “desire for more rigorous and persistent commitment and engagement” during her tour of Asia this week.

    On her first mission overseas as President Barack Obama’s chief diplomat, Clinton intends to stress the administration’s interest in the region during stops in Japan, Indonesia, South Korea and China. No major policy changes are expected, however. “I hope to signal that we need strong partners across the Pacific, just as we need strong partners across the Atlantic. We are, after all, both a trans-Atlantic and a trans-Pacific power,” Clinton said in a speech at the Asia Society in New York on Friday.

    While previous secretaries of state have traveled first to Europe or the Middle East, Clinton’s itinerary is seen as a symbolic gesture aimed at reassuring friends and allies of their standing and impressing the Chinese with early engagement. She was scheduled to depart Sunday. Talks with leaders in each capital are expected to cover the global financial crisis, climate change, North Korea and nuclear weapons and human rights concerns.

    “We are ready to listen. Actively listening to our partners isn’t just a way of demonstrating respect. It can also be a source of ideas to fuel our common efforts,” Clinton said in her New York speech. “Too often in the recent past, our government has acted reflexively before considering available facts and evidence, or hearing the perspectives of others. But President Obama and I are committed to a foreign policy that is neither impulsive nor ideological, one that values what others have to say. And when we have differences, which we will, we will discuss them frankly and specify those which limit our capacity to cooperate.”

    Ahead of her trip, North Korea’s No. 2 leader said Sunday the communist nation was ready to improve relations with “friendly” countries. The remark by Kim Yong Nam, North Korea’s ceremonial head of state, could be an olive branch to Washington, even though it came amid reports the North is gearing up to test-fire a long-range missile in an apparent attempt to grab Obama’s attention.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSGfp2D080cOcwHW9bJqvf9ir6LgD96C1TLG0

  74. Niebuhr’s take on politics and the world, including religion, does not speak to “right wing religious nuts like Warren
    —————————–
    I agree they are at opposite ends of the sprectrum. The question I am asking is more tactical than philisophical. In the aftermath of Bush, are the Obama marketers seeking to replace critical thinking with simple faith and blind obedience aka unity? And are they seeking to promote a secular religion based on internationalism which is supported by religious figures from one end of the spectum to the other, i.e. from Warren to Wright. And if so what is the antecdote for that totalitarian maneuver?

  75. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Rahm’s brother, tapped for White House health care policy advisor spot.

    By Lynn Sweeton February 14, 2009

    WASHINGTON–While the Obama White House is searching for a replacement for health czar Tom Daschle, policy work on health care reform–a priority for the administration–Is ongoing with one key advisor especially well connected.

    The brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a noted bioethicist, is advising the Obama administration on health care reform. Dr. Emanuel is the Chair of the Department of Bioethics at The Clinical Center of the National Institutes of Health and a breast oncologist.

    Dr. Emanuel is a special advisor to the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget for health policy. He told me he is “working on (the) health care reform effort.” He is “detailed” to the OMB spot and is still officially an employee of the NIH.

    Until last August, Dr. Emanuel was commuting between his Chicago home in West Rogers Park and Washington. He moved to Washington last August after his youngest daughter graduated from Northside College Prep at Bryn Mawr and Kedzie. One of three wildly successful Emanuel brothers (Ari is a Hollywood superagent) Dr. Emanuel also advised the Clinton White House on health care issues. He is a graduate of Amherst College, receiving his masters of science from Oxford University in Biochemistry. His M.D. is from Harvard Medical School. He holds a Ph.D. in political philosophy from Harvard University. In addition, in 1987-88, he was a fellow in the Program in Ethics and the Professions at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.

    According to his NIH bio, Dr. Emanuel is “widely published on the ethics of clinical research, advance care directives, end-of-life issues, euthanasia, the ethics of managed care, and the physician-patient relationship, Dr. Emanuel’s articles have appeared in The New England Journal of Medicine, Lancet, Journal of American Medical Association, and many other medical and ethics journals. His book, The Ends of Human Life, has been widely praised and received the Rosenhaupt Memorial Book Award by the Woodrow Wilson Foundation.

    “Dr. Emanuel served on the ethics section of former President Clinton’s Health Task Force, the National Bioethics Advisory Commission, and the International Advisory Board on Bioethics of the Pan American Health Organization. He has been a visiting professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, UCLA, and Brin Professor at Johns Hopkins Medical School.”

    blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/02/dr_ezekiel_emanuel_rahms_broth.html

  76. I was surprised to see some big MSM thing (NYT?) making him (and some other Obama campaing person) out as a good guy opposed to their bad guy picture of Geithner on the Stimulus bill’s provisions.
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    Turndown: I think msm has decided to make this into a morality play pitting the Obama administration against Wall Street and hoping people will forget Obama strong personal connection to wall street. The Taipan article I posted reported that Axelrod opposed the no strings attached bailout bill in private but that Geithner argued against those strings and Geithner won.

    This allows them to isolate Geithner. I would be surprised if the Frontline episode does not serve to perpetuate this view that the Wall Street is the dragon and bambi is St Christopher, while ignoring the incestuous relationship between the two. That also serves to hide their own connections to wall streeet. It is all rather calculated in my opinion.

  77. Blago for HEW! That would make the Chicago connection complete. First, of course, a discrete pardon needs to be administered. At least Blago is a more adept politician than Daschle – and maybe just a tad more honest in his swinishness.

  78. Blago for HEW! That would make the Chicago connection complete. First, of course, a discrete pardon needs to be administered. At least Blago is a more adept politician than Daschle – and maybe just a tad more honest in his swinishness.
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    Blue: if a pardon is no problem then why not Tony boy Rezko. He and Mr Obama have always had a close working relationship and this assignment could prove to be mutually beneficial if you under$tand what I mean.

  79. BHO is in Peoria: “we need this stimulus so that Catapillar can rehire some of those folks that just got fired (not so, according to the CEO) so they can get back to selling Cats to places like Colombia (63% of Cat business is exports).

    Fine. Except for the fact that AT THE MOMENT our lazy prez was saying those words, his minions were finalizing the killing of the Colombian trade agreement.

    What the fuzzle is going on here?

    Business as usual.

    BTW, has anyone else noticed that Nancy Pelosi is the one getting all of the blame for all of Bambi’s mistakes made in the last 3 months, with Bush a close runnerup?

  80. JanH quoted this article:

    reports the North is gearing up to test-fire a long-range missile in an apparent attempt to grab Obama’s attention.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSGfp2D080cOcwHW9bJqvf9ir6LgD96C1TLG0

    ===========================

    Well, if it lands in his basketball hoop….

  81. Well, if it lands in his basketball hoop….
    —————————-
    … then in Obamasworld it would be a three point shot from the outside–not to worry.

  82. wbboei said,
    The Taipan article I posted reported that Axelrod opposed the no strings attached bailout bill in private but that Geithner argued against those strings and Geithner won.

    ==========================

    Typo alert.

    Yes, the article I’m remembering did sound calculated to make Obama, Axeord, etc look like incoming Skywalker and Solo vs Geithner as Vader (agend of the old Empire).

    Conveniently forgetting that Obama CHOSE Geithner and can give him orders any time. I wonder why they are setting him up. Perhaps because it is just the opposite, Geithner wants good things but the Obama insiders really want to please Wall Street but need a scapegoat.

    Setting Geithn

  83. someone above mentioned the ongoing love-fest / excuse-making that MSM Sunday talking heads have w/ Obama. However, today on McLaughlin, they were talking about:
    * Obama’s “amateur hour” open-mic night administration (the vetting, the cabinet vacancies,etc.
    * the sheer gall of the census power grab from Commerce to within the WH. Monica Crowley said what I posted a day or so ago: “Imagine the screams of bloody murder from the Left if Bush had proposed taking the census and putting under Karl Rove’s control”.
    * Geither and Obama were too vague in Geithner’s speech about fixing the insolvency crisis, driving down the market.

  84. wbboei Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    ——————————
    I have read that posting at least 10 times and understand it to say that Bush and Co practiced “critical thinking”…?

    Let’s both go to SOF podcast at their Website and pick up this conversation afterwards.

  85. last night on either huffpo or dkos, someone had a satire piece that Obama was now using Craigslist to search for a Sec. of Commerce.

    Slowly, they’ll start to realize that they were swindled.

    MSM will take a little longer. But don’t forget, they too spent years protecting Bush, until it became obvious that their credibility was gone, and they tried to gain it back in 2006.

  86. rgb44hrc Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    ————————

    Thanks. That was me. I’m glad there isn’t a universal lovefest going on here.

  87. djia asks

    Is America going to end like THELMA & LOUISE ?
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    Stick to ABM90, explore state.gov where ABM and I get our daily dose of real hope and blindingly beautiful pictures (cause it is based on actions, not words), go to the new Hillary sites (NOLimits.org and one just mentioned her in last couple of days (allhillary something?)), pay attention to Admin, and for goodness sake, check in here with your friends before getting behind the wheel!

    Also stick to the British press for now and pull the plug on your TV.

  88. admin Says:
    February 15th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
    Djia, the B.O. “collector” coins and the “stimulus” scam tell the same time worn truth: A fool and his money are soon parted.
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    i bet campbell brown has a complete set of coins AND commemorative plates.

  89. Emjay — how cynical we all are.

    Your rep is supposed to represent you in things like the stim-bill. He/she should read it and listen to you and then use his best judgment.

    We’ve already given up on expecting our reps to represert us or do their job. Since nothing would have been lost by postponing the bill till Monday (except that they would have had to return for the vote), they put their convenience and their future committee assignments ahead of us.

    They threw “no last-minute unread bills” out the window without a murmur. What a pampered, cowardly, useless bunch they are. Actually there were some good guys trying to stop the freight train but the media gave them no help since they too are (for the most part) pampered, opportunistic, fairly useless rich people.

  90. fake coins. How appropriate.

    To quote Elaine from the Seinfeld episode:

    Jerry: “What about the breathing, the panting, the moaning, the screaming?”

    Elaine: “Fake, fake, fake, fake.” …

  91. I have read that posting at least 10 times and understand it to say that Bush and Co practiced “critical thinking”…?

    Let’s both go to SOF podcast at their Website and pick up this conversation afterwards.
    ——————-
    No no. Not that bush practiced critical thinking. Bush relied on his own brand of faith based justification for power and the attack on him from the center was based on critical thinking. Whereas now that critical thinking from the center is being replaced with a secular religion. People like Brooks, Gergen and others who would have criticized Bush for the same shenanigans, the flip flops and the koolaid have been co–opted. Sorry if I was unclear.

  92. February 15, 2009
    Stimulus bill was ‘a bad beginning’ for Obama, says McCain

    From CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart

    CNN’s John King sat down with Sen. John McCain in Phoenix, Arizona. Watch Part 1 of McCain’s interview.

    (CNN) – Arizona Sen. John McCain did not pull any punches in assessing a major milestone in his former rival’s nascent presidency. “It was a bad beginning,” McCain said Sunday of the legislative process that resulted in the $787 billion stimulus bill recently passed by Congress. “It was a bad beginning because it wasn’t what we promised the American people, what President Obama promised the American people – that we would sit down together.”

    While McCain said he appreciated the fact that Obama came to Capitol Hill to speak with House Republicans about the stimulus bill. But, “that’s not how you negotiate a result.” Instead, “you sit down in a room with competing proposals” and “almost all of our proposals went down on a party-line vote”

    “I hope the next time we will sit down together and conduct truly bipartisan negotiations. This was not a bipartisan bill.” But the former Republican presidential nominee was also critical of how his own party had conducted itself in the past when it came to bipartisanship.

    “Republicans were guilty of this kind of behavior,” McCain said. “I’m not saying that we did things different. But Americans want us to do things differently and they want us to work together.”

    The stimulus bill which Obama will sign Tuesday is “incredibly expensive,” McCain also said. “It has hundreds of billions of dollars in projects which will not yield in jobs,” McCain told CNN Chief National Correspondent John King. “This was supposed to be a package that was going to create jobs.”

    McCain also spoke about the potential long-term effects of the stimulus bill.
    “We are committing generational theft,” McCain said. “We are laying a huge deficit on future generations of Americans.”

    Failure to bring the federal government’s spending back in line with its revenue once the economy improves could lead to inflation and debasement of the dollar down the road, McCain also told King. McCain, who has represented the border state of Arizona in the Senate for more than two decades, also discussed illegal immigration on State of the Union.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/15/stimulus-bill-was-a-bad-beginning-for-obama-says-mccain/

  93. The whole Greg affair is strange, but the midnight theft of the census is the most plausible explanation. From some of those panelists you get the sense that they tried to do it and stopped whereas from others you get the sense it is a fait acompli. If the latter then it seems to me that it is unconstitutional and the Republican Party has standing to pursue the issue. I must tell you though I have given up trying to predict what the Supreme Court will do and whether they will enforce the Constitution. To me this transfer would seem to violate the separation of powers between the legislative and executive branches.

  94. wbboei Says:

    [snip]

    This allows them to isolate Geithner. I would be surprised if the Frontline episode does not serve to perpetuate this view that the Wall Street is the dragon and bambi is St Christopher, while ignoring the incestuous relationship between the two. That also serves to hide their own connections to wall streeet. It is all rather calculated in my opinion.
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    wbb

    Seriously…what are you reading lately? Please either wait until after Tuesday night broadcast or statrt posting your SOURCES.

  95. The stimulus bill which Obama will sign Tuesday is “incredibly expensive,” McCain also said. “It has hundreds of billions of dollars in projects which will not yield in jobs,” McCain told CNN Chief National Correspondent John King. “This was supposed to be a package that was going to create jobs.”

    McCain also spoke about the potential long-term effects of the stimulus bill.
    “We are committing generational theft,” McCain said. “We are laying a huge deficit on future generations of Americans.”

    Failure to bring the federal government’s spending back in line with its revenue once the economy improves could lead to inflation and debasement of the dollar down the road
    ———————–
    You do not need to be a Republican to agree with that assessment. I do believe however that McCains words are understated in terms of the repudiation of bipartisanship and the negative economic consequences. Much of it goes back I think to the failure of Mr Obama to take control of the process, put Pelosi in her place and direct the bill towards the proper goals. A little thing called leadership. He doesnt know how.

  96. Obama’s Rhetoric Is the Real ‘Catastrophe’

    By BRADLEY R. SCHILLER

    President Barack Obama has turned fearmongering into an art form. He has repeatedly raised the specter of another Great Depression. First, he did so to win votes in the November election. He has done so again recently to sway congressional votes for his stimulus package.

    In his remarks, every gloomy statistic on the economy becomes a harbinger of doom. As he tells it, today’s economy is the worst since the Great Depression. Without his Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he says, the economy will fall back into that abyss and may never recover.

    This fearmongering may be good politics, but it is bad history and bad economics. It is bad history because our current economic woes don’t come close to those of the 1930s. At worst, a comparison to the 1981-82 recession might be appropriate. Consider the job losses that Mr. Obama always cites. In the last year, the U.S. economy shed 3.4 million jobs. That’s a grim statistic for sure, but represents just 2.2% of the labor force. From November 1981 to October 1982, 2.4 million jobs were lost — fewer in number than today, but the labor force was smaller. So 1981-82 job losses totaled 2.2% of the labor force, the same as now.

    Job losses in the Great Depression were of an entirely different magnitude. In 1930, the economy shed 4.8% of the labor force. In 1931, 6.5%. And then in 1932, another 7.1%. Jobs were being lost at double or triple the rate of 2008-09 or 1981-82.

    This was reflected in unemployment rates. The latest survey pegs U.S. unemployment at 7.6%. That’s more than three percentage points below the 1982 peak (10.8%) and not even a third of the peak in 1932 (25.2%). You simply can’t equate 7.6% unemployment with the Great Depression.

    Other economic statistics also dispel any analogy between today’s economic woes and the Great Depression. Real gross domestic product (GDP) rose in 2008, despite a bad fourth quarter. The Congressional Budget Office projects a GDP decline of 2% in 2009. That’s comparable to 1982, when GDP contracted by 1.9%. It is nothing like 1930, when GDP fell by 9%, or 1931, when GDP contracted by another 8%, or 1932, when it fell yet another 13%.

    Auto production last year declined by roughly 25%. That looks good compared to 1932, when production shriveled by 90%. The failure of a couple of dozen banks in 2008 just doesn’t compare to over 10,000 bank failures in 1933, or even the 3,000-plus bank (Savings & Loan) failures in 1987-88. Stockholders can take some solace from the fact that the recent stock market debacle doesn’t come close to the 90% devaluation of the early 1930s.

    Mr. Obama’s analogies to the Great Depression are not only historically inaccurate, they’re also dangerous. Repeated warnings from the White House about a coming economic apocalypse aren’t likely to raise consumer and investor expectations for the future. In fact, they have contributed to the continuing decline in consumer confidence that is restraining a spending pickup. Beyond that, fearmongering can trigger a political stampede to embrace a “recovery” package that delivers a lot less than it promises. A more cool-headed assessment of the economy’s woes might produce better policies.

    Mr. Schiller, an economics professor at the University of Nevada, Reno, is the author of “The Economy Today” (McGraw-Hill, 2007).

    online.wsj.com/article/SB123457303244386495.html

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    Amen!

  97. Freckles:

    Pelousy was leaving the country for a plush overseas trip…..fox was saying that that was the reason for the rush.

  98. wbboei Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    ————————————-

    I think obama doesn’t honestly trust his own shadow. Is he afraid of Pelosi? Does he owe his soul to her and a few others for buying him the White House? Personally, Pelosi scares the heck out of me.

  99. President Barack Obama has turned fearmongering into an art form. He has repeatedly raised the specter of another Great Depression. First, he did so to win votes in the November election. He has done so again recently to sway congressional votes for his stimulus package.
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    The problem is words like his from the President can easily become self fulfilling prophesy. Under the cover of such words a bad bill has been passed, and it does not address the most important issue which is of course jobs.

  100. I think obama doesn’t honestly trust his own shadow. Is he afraid of Pelosi? Does he owe his soul to her and a few others for buying him the White House? Personally, Pelosi scares the heck out of me.
    __________________
    It certainly appears that way.

  101. Pelousy was leaving the country for a plush overseas trip…..fox was saying that that was the reason for the rush.
    ——————————-
    If the bill is a flop, and it fails to stem the job loss, then this will be seen as her let them eat cake moment and the gillotine awaits her. I hope it is true.

  102. admin Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
    ……………the McLaughlin Group:
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    Thanks for the clip Admin; if I had known that Elenor was not going to be screeching on the panel today, I would have watched it. Glad to see the Financial Times represented too.

  103. Remember the KGB Hit Squads?

    I have to wonder if Obama and his thugs are making a list of all those media types and writers who are brave enough speak out against him.

  104. wbboei Says:
    February 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    The whole Greg affair is strange, but the midnight theft of the census is the most plausible explanation.
    ***********
    I don’t understand the whole census thing. The census is part of the Commerce Dept. and is run by the director of the census who reports to the Sec. of Commerce. This is the law and not determined by Rahm or Obama. The chances of the Congress changing the law are zero. (See U.S. Code Title 13…ww.law.cornell.edu/uscode/13/usc_sup_01_13.html)

  105. I have to wonder if Obama and his thugs are making a list of all those media types and writers who are brave enough speak out against him.
    —————————-
    Jan- figurtively speaking yes. He wants total control of the society. That is the only way you can achieve unity. And he wants total buy in from the media and the opposing party. So when Axelrod says he wants everybody included he means it but he also means on Obamas terms. If he had not slipped on four banana peels there would be no dissent to speak of now. This is going to take some time for reality to set in,

  106. wbboei Says:
    February 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    The whole Greg affair is strange, but the midnight theft of the census is the most plausible explanation.
    ***********
    I don’t understand the whole census thing. The census is part of the Commerce Dept. and is run by the director of the census who reports to the Sec. of Commerce. This is the law and not determined by Rahm or Obama. The chances of the Congress changing the law are zero. (See U.S. Code Title 13…ww.law.cornell.edu/uscode/13/usc_sup_01_13.html)
    ————————–
    I dont know. You saw Monica Crowley’s suggestion that this was unconstitutional. Perhaps this is the basis. Congress has spoken to the issue and the Presidents constitutional duy is to faithfully enforce the laws passed by congress. Not to thwart and politicize them. This was a bold move by Obama, a theft in the broad light of day. Lets see if the Republicans react to it. It coincides with the takeover of state political apparatus by bots.

  107. # admin Says:
    February 15th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Djia, the B.O. “collector” coins and the “stimulus” scam tell the same time worn truth: A fool and his money are soon parted.
    *******

    Oh those POOR Obama bots….. LMAO!

  108. Emjay Says:
    February 15th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    djia asks

    Is America going to end like THELMA & LOUISE ?
    —————————————————

    Stick to ABM90, explore state.gov where ABM and I get our daily dose of real hope and blindingly beautiful pictures

    ***********

    Emjay…

    Iam here most of my day and definately alot after 2am LOL! I am signed up at the SOS site to get all the updates etc from hillary… and it all does help…….and i feel comforted big time that Hillary has our back as SOS for sure!

  109. No wonder so few of us trust so few MSM, whether talking heads or ink and paper or nowdays, bits and bytes. This is the basis for an episode of “The Office.”
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    Media Matters
    Thu, Feb 12, 2009 8:17pm ET

    Summary: Fox News reported as fact the reportedly false claim that the economic recovery bill contains $30 million to protect the salt marsh harvest mouse. Fox News hosts continued to do so even after the spurious claim had been debunked.

    On February 11, The Washington Times reported that “House Republicans are challenging Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s claim that the massive stimulus spending bill contains no pet projects after uncovering in the bill more than $30 million for wetlands conservation in her San Francisco Bay area district, including work she previously championed to protect the salt marsh harvest mouse.” The Times’ claim that House Republicans “uncover[ed]” a provision for funding “to protect the salt marsh harvest mouse” is reportedly false. Blogger
    Greg Sargent of The Plum Line wrote on February 12 that the salt marsh harvest mouse claim originated in an email from an anonymous “House Republican leadership staffer” who, when contacted by Sargent, “conceded that the claim by conservative media that the mouse money is currently in the bill is a misstatement.” However, this spurious claim leapt from the House GOP, to The Washington Times, to Fox News, where it was reported as fact and Pelosi was mocked even after the story had been debunked.

    In his February 12 blog entry, posted at 1:27 p.m. ET, Sargent explained how he determined the source of the Pelosi-mouse allegation, and how he debunked it:

    How did this one get going? Yesterday a House Republican leadership staffer circulated a background email, which I obtained, charging that GOP staffers had been told by an unnamed Federal agency that if it got money from the stim package, it would spend “thirty million dollars for wetland restoration in the San Francisco Bay Area — including work to protect the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse.”

    The GOP staffer’s email didn’t say what agency it was. It didn’t say the money was actually in the package — just that an unnamed agency had said they would spend it on that if they got it.

    But conservatives picked up the claim and began stating as fact that the mouse money was in the bill. On Fox News yesterday, Mike Huckabee blasted the bill for containing money for Pelosi’s mouse, and today GOP Rep Dan Lundgren hammered the alleged mouse money in the bill as “absurd.” Today’s Washington Times ran with a story called: “Pelosi’s mouse slated for $30M slice of cheese.”

    But I just contacted the House GOP staffer who wrote the initial email laying out this talking point, and he conceded that the claim by conservative media that the mouse money is currently in the bill is a misstatement. “There is not specific language in the legislation for this project,” he said.

    Of mice and misinformation: Sammon joins other Fox News personalities in spreading stimulus falsehood

    The bogus talking point, however, was frequently referenced on Fox News on February 11 and 12. On the February 11 edition of Your World with Neil Cavuto, Fox News host Mike Huckabee stated that the recovery bill included “[t]hirty million dollars to save the malt — excuse me, the salt marsh mouse in Nancy Pelosi’s district. Thirty million dollars for a mouse.” Likewise, on the February 12 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox News correspondent Caroline Shively said of the bill: “Thirty billion [sic] dollars for wetland restoration in the San Francisco Bay area. That has been a pet project of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for years, as well as some other California Democrats. One of the things they are trying to protect there is the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse, so they’re getting $30 million for that. Now, the speaker’s office says the speaker has not had any involvement in this initiative.” Co-host Steve Doocy replied, “So, when you say ‘pet,’ you’re talking about the mouse as a pet, right? Nancy’s mouse, $50 million, right?” Later on Fox & Friends, Doocy claimed the bill included “something like $30 million for a little mouse in Nancy Pelosi’s district. But it’s not pork. It’s not pork.” And on the February 12 edition of his show — several hours after Sargent had debunked the story — Glenn Beck asserted: “Nancy Pelosi put $20 million into the stimulus package to preserve the salt marsh mouse. Now me, as the governor of California, I’d say to hell with the salt marsh mouse. Twenty million dollars. But maybe that’s just me.”

    Media Matters for America previously noted that Bret Baier, on the February 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, cited the Washington Times in reporting that “the stimulus contains $30 million for wetlands conservation in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s home district. Some of that money goes for a past Pelosi project, protecting the salt marsh harvest mouse.” The non-existent provision was also mocked on the February 12 edition of America’s Newsroom by co-hosts Megyn Kelly and Bill Hemmer, who said it “[m]ust be a very important mouse” that “eat[s] a lot of cheese.”

    From the February 11 edition of Fox News’ Your World with Neil Cavuto:

    ALEXIS GLICK (guest host): Former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, host of Huckabee on Fox, joins me right now. Good to see you. Well, look, here it is — we have what they say is a definitive deal, everybody sort of backing off right now, but only 35 percent of it is in tax cuts. Is it a reasonable bill, or is it pork?

    HUCKABEE: It’s pork, and in fact there’s a piece of it, Alexis, that I find very interesting. Thirty million dollars to save the malt — excuse me, the salt marsh mouse in Nancy Pelosi’s district. Thirty million dollars for a mouse. And speaking of mice, some of us are thinking that the Republicans have three blind mice: Snowe, Collins, and Specter, who seem to be lining up with this instead of standing up for something that Republicans ought to be standing up for, called the taxpayer. Not happening here today.

    GLICK: OK, but Governor, let me ask you this — I mean, let’s be perfectly honest about it. This has turned into a big partisan politics thing, and a lot of people are suggesting this all comes down to midterm elections. There are plenty of smart economists out there who say we need a stimulus. There’s arguments, of course, about whether that should come in taxes or in spending, but would you not agree that we need to do something?

    HUCKABEE: Oh, something is fine. Let’s do some things — let’s cut the capital gains tax, let’s eliminate payroll taxes for a month, put that money right in the hands — you know what? You don’t even have to wait 10 months, 12 months, 15 months. If you eliminated payroll taxes, give everyone in America who’s working a tax holiday for a month, they get the money right now, it goes right back into the economy. There are a lot of ways we can stimulate the economy that don’t involve spending $30 million saving mice, planting grass around the Jefferson Memorial. A lot of these things — we won’t see these things for two or three years.

    From the February 12 edition of Fox News’ Fox & Friends:

    GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): But let’s talk a little bit about the — the pork. Because when I look at this bill, I see that one-third is tax cuts for some people, and two-thirds is spending.

    SHIVELY: You’re exactly right. We were looking for pork, and The Washington Times actually found a mouse in there. Listen to this. Thirty billion [sic] dollars for wetland restoration in the San Francisco Bay area. That has been a pet project of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for years, as well as some other California Democrats. One of the things they’re trying to protect there is the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse, so they’re getting $30 million for that. Now, the speaker’s office said the speaker has not had any involvement in this initiative. So, there are some pet projects in there for districts across the country. We’re talking 789 and a half billion dollars, so there is some pork in there.

    DOOCY: So, when you say “pet,” you’re talking about the mouse as a pet, right? Nancy’s mouse —

    SHIVELY: Sure.

    DOOCY: — 50 million? All right.

    SHIVELY: Sure. Thirty million.

    DOOCY: Caroline, thank you for joining us live in your red dress there down in D.C.

    […]

    BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): They went in there and they cut back. They were concerned, evidently, about losing the three Republicans that they had and some moderate Democrats. So they felt as though they had to cut back on some of the spending. Out in the — out in the wilderness, a $15,000 tax credit for anyone buying a home, which you thought might be necessary to get the housing market back on its feet, where this whole mess started. And $20 billion in school construction costs. Also, you cannot deduct interest from a car that you might buy.

    DOOCY: That’s right.

    KILMEADE: So where’s the incentive to buy a car?

    DOOCY: And luckily, something like $30 million for a little mouse in Nancy Pelosi’s district. But it’s not pork. It’s not pork.

    CARLSON: A lot of people got their pet projects still put in that whole —

    DOOCY: That’s literally a pet project, for a mouse. We’ll tell you all about the numbers and get your reaction to what you’ll be doing with your $1.86 per day savings, coming up straight ahead.

    From the February 12 edition of Fox News’ Glenn Beck:

    BECK: Have you ever watched this show?

    MEG WHITMAN (former eBay CEO): I have, yeah —

    BECK: Have you?

    WHITMAN: It’s your new show, congratulations.

    BECK: Really?

    WHITMAN: It’s fabulous.

    BECK: All right, I’m just wondering why you would come on this show because I’m going to ask you questions that — ’cause you can’t explain California, can you?

    WHITMAN: Well, we can try.

    BECK: Bring the cake in, Erin. Bring in the cake. See, here’s the problem. First of all, in the stimulus package — I don’t know if you know Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi put $20 million into the stimulus package to preserve the salt marsh mouse. Now, me, as the governor of California, I’d say to hell with the salt marsh mouse. Twenty million dollars. But maybe that’s just me.

    © 2009 Media Matters for America.

  110. not one person in connection with THE FRAUD has ever conveyed credibility or confidence from me.
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    Dija: it sure seems that way doesn’t it. Birds of a feather perhaps. The obvious exceptions in my book are Hillary and General Jones. So many of the others aroulnd him seem to have legal or ethical problems of one kind or another.

  111. Has Obama thrown Iran sanctions under the bus?

    It’s very difficult to gauge the accuracy of this piece in Geostrategy Direct – an open source intel newsletter that Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit believes has a good track record. (Hoft’s reporting on Iran and the Middle East has been exemplary.)

    But the fact that there are several sources saying the same thing – that the US will either seek to remove sanctions from Iran or not enforce them is extremely troubling. This from Hoft’s site quoting from the “subscribers only” edition of GD:

    CONTINUE READING:
    americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/has_obama_thrown_iran_sanction.html

  112. djia Says:

    February 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Has Obama thrown Iran sanctions under the bus?

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    WTH? What twisted objectives does this monster of a president have up his slimy sleeve?

    It’s not enough that he colludes with an American-born terrorist, that monies from unknown anti-Israeli donors greased his palms during the election, now he is furthering his crooked strategies by going in this direction?

    I pray this isn’t true!

  113. From The Times
    February 16, 2009

    West meets East: Hillary Clinton chooses Asia for her maiden overseas trip

    Tim Reid in Washington

    Hillary Clinton arrives in Asia today on her maiden overseas trip as Secretary of State, with China at the heart of her agenda as the US seeks to tackle the global economic crisis, climate change and North Korea’s nuclear ambitions.

    Traditionally, Mrs Clinton’s predecessors have travelled first to Europe or the Middle East, but her focus on Asia reflects the region’s growing influence and President Obama’s desire to broaden ties with Beijing. She will also visit Japan, Indonesia and South Korea on her seven-day tour, part of a long-term US strategy to deal with the shifting global power structures between West and East.

    As a presidential candidate last year, Mrs Clinton wrote that “our relationship with China will be the most important bilateral relationship in the world this century”.

    At a speech in New York on Friday, she declared: “Some believe that China on the rise is, by definition, an adversary. To the contrary, we believe that the United States and China can benefit from and contribute to each other’s successes. “It is in our interests to work harder to build on areas of common concern and shared opportunities.”

    America’s economic relationship with China is still the central issue — Beijing holds nearly $700 billion in US Treasury securities — but the Obama Administration wants China to be a central player on a range of other issues, particularly climate change.

    In her speech last week, Mrs Clinton noted that China passed the US recently as the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gasses, and invited Beijing to join America in a partnership to reduce global warming.

    Travelling with her this week will be Todd Stern, her special envoy for climate change negotiations, underscoring the importance of the issue to the new Administration. Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton believe that a sincere effort to engage China in reducing carbon emissions will improve chances of getting a deal in Copenhagen in December, where a new post-Kyoto treaty on climate change is due to be negotiated.

    During her visit to Beijing Mrs Clinton will visit a clean thermal power plant built through a collaboration between General Electric and China. China also chairs the stalled sixparty talks on North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme. On this issue, the Obama Administration’s policy is essentially the same as that left by President Bush: to persuade Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions through talks involving the US. The issue will be high on the agenda during Mrs Clinton’s stops in Tokyo and Seoul, both part of the multilateral effort to confront the threat.

    On Friday Mrs Clinton called Pyongyang’s programme “the most acute challenge to stability in NorthEast Asia”. She said that the US would normalise relations with Pyongyang if it “completely and verifiably” eliminated its weapons and programme.

    Mrs Clinton visits Japan first, in part to allay concerns in Tokyo that the US’s gaze has shifted from its strongest partner in the region toward Beijing. She will sign an agreement that will authorise the relocation of 8,000 US Marines stationed in Okinawa, whose presence has long angered the Japanese, to Guam. Under the deal Tokyo will pay for 60 per cent of the move but more than 15,000 Marines will remain. Last year the Bush Administration angered Japan by removing North Korea from its list of state sponsors of terrorism without addressing Tokyo’s concerns about the fate of Japanese citizens abducted by North Korea. In an attempt to ease such concerns, Mrs Clinton will meet the families of some of the detainees. In Indonesia, where Mr Obama lived between the age of 6 and 10, Mrs Clinton will announce that she will attend a South-East Asian summit this summer, an event that the Bush Administration often skipped.

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5741802.ece

  114. China, US to restart military dialogue in Feb.
    By Cui Xiaohuo
    2009-02-16

    The mainland and the US will resume their military talks with a defense policy dialogue in Beijing on Feb 27-28, both countries’ officials have said. The dialogue between the countries’ senior military officers was postponed in November after the former George W. Bush administration announced in October to sell $6.5 billion worth of arms to Taiwan despite the mainland’s protest.

    The dialogue will be informal, Defense Ministry spokesman Hu Changming said yesterday. The talks, a routine yearly meeting between Washington and Beijing since 1997, is likely to be hosted by a US deputy defense minister and a deputy chief of the mainland’s army, military analysts said.

    Japan’s Kyodo News Agency quoted a US Defense Department official as having said over the weekend that David Sedney, US assistant secretary of defense for East Asia, will lead the US team at the talks. The talks will focus on the expansion of bilateral military cooperation and joint implementation of measures to address security concerns across the world, especially in East Asia, the official said.

    “The (Barack) Obama administration has set a positive tone to work with the mainland,” said Rear Admiral Yang Yi, senior military expert with the University of National Defense. “So the US Defense Department must have worked closely with the State Department to schedule the dialogue right after Secretary of State Hilary Clinton’s visit.”

    “If one sees the dialogue from this perspective, it is not just about the military (because) it indicates that defense policies will play a vital role in bilateral ties in the near future,” Yang said.

    On the eve of her first overseas tour as secretary of state, Clinton said her administration would use “smart power” to work with historic allies and emerging countries in order to find regional and global solutions to common global problems. “And we look forward to improved relations across the Straits,” Clinton said while addressing a gathering of Asia Society in New York.
    She said the US and the mainland would resume mid-level military discussions by this month. She will arrive in Beijing on Friday to discuss the global financial crisis, regional security and climate change.

    Military talks are usually the first to be called off during strained Sino-US ties and are last to resume after normalization, analysts said. And this time it is no exception. The Obama administration, which has asked Robert Gates to continue as the defense secretary, is clear that the US and the mainland have common interests in key areas, said Luo Yuan, a military expert with the Academy of Military Science.
    “Since the security situation across the Straits has taken a significant and positive turn, the two militaries can discuss more far-reaching issues, including non-traditional security,” Luo said. “It’s a great time to start real dialogue.”

    chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-02/16/content_7478350.htm

  115. A little OT, but it sounds as if she is a chip of the old block…Nancy Pelosi

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    Alexandra Pelosi takes a hard ‘Right’ turn in documentary

    Alexandra Pelosi films conservative talk-show host Sean Hannity during the presidential campaign. “Hopefully, the right wing will feel they got to be heard.” Pelosi says. For those wondering why the “liberal media” rarely show interviews of conservative voters on TV, documentary director Alexandra Pelosi offers up a visceral counterpoint in HBO’s Right America, Feeling Wronged: Some Voices From the Campaign Trail, a documentary premiering Monday night (8 ET/PT).
    From the outset, when Right America opens as tearful supporters commiserate over John McCain’s election concession speech, Pelosi focuses on the underexplored legion of Republican Party supporters.

    “You don’t see these people on television. I have to remind my liberal friends that this is what you find outside of California and New York,” says Pelosi, who traveled to 28 states last summer and fall to examine the Republican Party’s base. Though there are campaign-trail snippets of media stars such as CBS’ Katie Couric and conservative talk-show host Sean Hannity and glimpses of McCain, Pelosi aimed her camera largely at average citizens — the kind, she says, that stood in line for hours waiting to see McCain’s running mate, Sarah Palin.

    Sporting anti-Obama shirts and occasional vitriol, many of Pelosi’s interview subjects, most of them unidentified, are dogmatic, profane and adamant in their contempt for Obama.

    “I don’t want anyone to think I’m trying to isolate an extreme perspective,” says Pelosi, who interviewed hundreds of Republican supporters. “Remember, there are over 58 million people who didn’t vote for Obama.”

    Pelosi, 38, is a seasoned observer of political campaigns, both from the trenches and party spin-meisters. As an NBC producer on the 2000 campaign trail, she managed to capture enough video to put together a behind-the-scenes look at George W. Bush’s inaugural presidential campaign for 2002 documentary Journeys With George. That was followed by 2004’s Diary of a Political Tourist.

    Still, Pelosi might be considered an unlikely choice to illuminate viewpoints of conservatives. She’s the daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat dubbed “Nazi Pelosi” by some of Right America’s more extreme GOP partisans. And visiting campaign venues in the heartland and South, the younger Pelosi wasn’t just spurned by McCain campaign workers. Occasionally, she was pilloried, and even spat on, by some diehard McCain supporters.

    “There were a lot of un-Christian moments, and people were nasty to me,” Pelosi says. “But others invited me over for dinner and asked for autographs. Elections bring out passion in people. I felt like I was making an artifact of a moment in time in the closing days of the campaign.” Conservatives may not agree with Pelosi’s politics, but some applaud her efforts.

    “Conservatives have a point of view, but they’ve been turned into cartoon characters by the mainstream media,” says Republican Party strategist Cheri Jacobus of Capitol Strategies. “The mainstream media doesn’t acknowledge them or portrays right-of-center folks as abnormal. It’s been a problem and will be a problem for some time.”

    Pelosi appears anxious about how Right America might be perceived. “I tried to be balanced; I don’t want to stir the pot. But this is a country at war with itself. It’s not cute or funny. It’s serious.”

    usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-02-15-pelosi-right-america_N.htm

  116. WTH? What twisted objectives does this monster of a president have up his slimy sleeve?

    It’s not enough that he colludes with an American-born terrorist, that monies from unknown anti-Israeli donors greased his palms during the election, now he is furthering his crooked strategies by going in this direction?

    I pray this isn’t true!
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    Jan-I suspect this is tied to Iran suspending its nuclear program and agreeing to inspections. I also suspect that it is part of a coodinated strategy with Russia we are discussing with Russia in relation to Afganistan. Even so I fully share your sentiments.

    I have an Iranian American friend who is a doctor and is very anti the present regime. He is farci and the regime is Arab. He claims the people of that country love the United States but the Bush Administration played their hand so stupidly as to lend currency to the regime. He insists that we could bring the administration down if we prevailed on our allies to stop selling them gasoline. They produce oil but have built no refineries since the time of the Shaw.

  117. China, US to restart military dialogue in Feb.
    By Cui Xiaohuo
    2009-02-16
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    Jan-the tone of that article by the state run newspaper is encouraging.

    Their reference to our girls statement about smart power implies a willingness to discuss economic policy, global warming and military policy, and a willingness to cast China as a partner rather than a rival has the feel of a breakthrough to it.

    The Chinese Military is very ideological and nationalistic. The economic arm is much more open and receptive. The balance of power within their power structure has traditionally broken down along those lines. The fact that this conciliatory overture is emanating from a military man is promising. I just hope I am not being overly optimistic.

    One thing I know for sure. These are tough people. But I think they have met their match in our girl. And much good can come from it for both sides. But you do wonder where that leaves Taipai.

  118. “One thing I know for sure. These are tough people. But I think they have met their match in our girl.”

    —————————

    Definitely. A part of wishes Hillary had let obama swing in the wind. The bigger part tells me she is going to accomplish so much more than this idiot will.

  119. I was thinking about the Dachale thing tonight and what his motivations were for supporting Obama to the extent he did. In hindsight it appears he wanted this HHS job and that was his price for betraying Hillary and twisting arms in the House.

    I speak now of old unhappy far off things. South Dakota was the site of a great primary victory for our girl. I did not know at the time how despised he was by voters. His endorsement of Obama was meaningful on Capitol Hill but not with the people of his state. Potomic Fever.

    But on the other side of the ledger, South Dakota was where big media moved in for the kill. First, they hyped Daschale. Second they twisted her words on the RFK remark and falsely ascribed an immoral intent. Third, AP promugated the false story on the eve of the election that she would concede that night for the sole purpose of suppressing turnout by her supporters. Nevertheless she kicked his ass.

    What better reason can there be to never ever trust them.

  120. The thing I failed to realize at the time was the extent to which this health care thing was a political football within the Democratic Party. I assumed Hillary owned the issue based on her advocacy of it during the campaign and the hard work she did on it during the campaign. But when she returned to congress it became clear that Teddy wanted the issue and it now appears that Daschale had his hand in the cookie jar as well.

  121. Admin> I think your initial assessment of the “stimulus” bill will prove to be the correct one: instead of focusing on the specific gimmes it contains, it should be viewed in terms of first principles.

    Hypothetically, there were three potential objectives: i) pork for the 2010 elections in the short term, ii) job creation for the short and intermediate term, iii) much needed improvements to infrastructure for the long term.

    If my understanding is correct then there are no strings attached to the monies provided to the states. The operating assumption is that the governors and legislatures know best just as the assumption of the banking bailout was the banks knew best.

    If we are going to create an obligation which our grandchildren will be stuck with it seems reasonable to provide some basic guidelines to the states. Otherwise the monies will be spent for the wrong reason-the 2010 election.

    Perhaps some states do not need guidelines, but others clearly do. As noted yesterday the decision by our governoir to use those monies for the make work project of putting asphalt on highways instead of fixing them is a case in point.

    And so when we look back on this expensive piece of legislation we may find that it did little long term good. And long term improvements are what we really needed.

  122. The question a year from now may well be did we merely spend money we did not have (interest=300 billion) or did we make a sound investment?

  123. wbboei and all..

    found this article [written April 2008] tonight when i googled “hyperinflation”…. it is a must read, i am still trying to absorb it all.
    If you haven’t already been, it is now time to start stock piling

    after you read it, go to the home page and the archive…. unless your a subscriber you can’t read all the articles but be sure to check out sept 17th 2008 in the archives.. this is what is there

    Alert subscription required September, 17th, 2008

    • Treasury and Fed Rev Up the Currency Printing Presses
    • Has a Run on the System Begun?
    • The Problem Remains Inflation, Not Deflation

    shadowstats.com/article/292

  124. Thanks Dija. Hyperinflation is indeed the concern.

    Ten years ago I read an article that said a dollar in 1965 is equivalent to six dollars today.

    We did make productity gains during the past twenty years through automation and outsourcing, at the cost of pink collar jobs with respect to the former and blue collar jobs with respect to the latter.

    However, when we lost those jobs we lost infrastruture because the dollar they generated passed through seven sets of hands before it left the community.

    I read somewhere that there will be twice as many dollars in circulation in a year and to me that means alot of inflation.

    The bet is when hyperinflation hits we will move quickly to strenthen the dollar like Volker did. Most of this is way over my head, but that much I think I understand.

    This is why Hillarys discussions with China are so critical and it is wise–very wise for her to make her first trip there rather than to Europe as tradition would have it.

    If this trip is successful–and there is reason to believe it will be because both countries need a partership to emerge, then it will be the first trip of many.

    The world financial system needs to be rebuilt and there is no time to spare. If I believed the Pelosi bail-our bill would support that objective then I would be all in favor of it. Unfortunately I do not.

  125. Definitely. A part of wishes Hillary had let obama swing in the wind. The bigger part tells me she is going to accomplish so much more than this idiot will.
    ———————–
    Me too Jan. I tell myself he does not deserve our girl but the country does. That is the only sense I can make of it. I think that is the way she must look at it to. For her it is all about duty. No wonder the senior military officers in our country appreciate her and supported her in her presidential campaign. The only one who supported Mr Obama openly was General McPeak and I am told his subordinates were not wild about him.

  126. Obama Is Said to Replace Plan for ‘Car Czar’ With a Panel

    The Obama administration has dropped the idea of appointing a
    “car czar” to oversee the revamping of General Motors and
    Chrysler and will instead put the politically delicate task
    in the hands of a presidential panel, a senior administration
    official with knowledge of the plan said Sunday night.

    President Obama is designating the Treasury secretary,
    Timothy F. Geithner, and the chairman of the National
    Economic Council, Lawrence H. Summers, to oversee the group.
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    Why are they not prepared to set up a similar committee to oversee the financial industry to whom we have given exponentially more taxpayer money? Or have they and are we simply unaware of it. Or is it because Wall Street was his identified biggest backer?

  127. Obama Taps Auto-Oversight Panel

    02/15/09 – 11:09 PM EST

    By Ken Thomas and Tom Krisher
    Associated Press writers
    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama plans to appoint senior administration officials — rather than a single “car czar,” as had been discussed — to oversee a restructuring of the auto industry.
    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers will oversee the across-the-government panel, a senior administration official said Sunday on the condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.

    “The president understands the importance of this issue and also understands that the auto industry affects and is affected by a broad range of economic policies,” the official said.

    As the teams move forward, Obama “wants to make sure that we’re getting the expertise and input of agencies across the government,” the official said.

    Obama and his aides face difficult choices on the fate of the U.S. auto industry, weighing the cost of pouring billions more into struggling companies against possible bankruptcies that could undermine plans to jump-start the economy.

    General Motors(GM Quote – Cramer on GM – Stock Picks) and Chrysler are racing against a Tuesday deadline to submit plans to the government. The plans are to be followed by weeks of intense negotiations ahead of a March 31 deadline for the final versions of the reports.

    GM and Chrysler are living off a combined $13.4 billion in government loans. If they don’t receive concessions by March 31, they face the prospect of having the loans pulled, followed by bankruptcy proceedings. Ford(F Quote – Cramer on F – Stock Picks) has not sought government loans.

    Any bankruptcy would be particularly painful, with some economists predicting the country could lose 2 million to 3 million jobs this year and the unemployment rate, now 7.6%, could swell past 9% by the spring of 2010.
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    thestreet.com/story/10464104/1/obama-taps-auto-oversight-panel.html

  128. not sure how old this petition is, as i see no dates….but i figure it can’t hurt to sign it

    Psychiatric Evaluation of Presidential Candidates

    To: U.S. Congress

    The 2008 presidential election in America is the most crucial election in this country’s history, not because the issues are that critical but because of Senator Barack Hussein Obama. Sen. Obama likely suffers from narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). NPD is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. The following are some of the symptoms of NPD that can be seen in Sen. Obama. He subtly misrepresents facts, opportunistically shifts positions, ignores data that conflicts with his fantasy world, is overly confident and acts presidential despite commensurate merits and his modest life achievements, considers himself above the law, talks about himself in third person, has messianic vision of himself and his “mission”, displays false modesty while often evincing haughtiness, sublimates aggression and behaves as eternal adolescents. [Please see this article. http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html ]

    NPD is the prime disorder experienced by madmen of history — from Hitler to Stalin, Mao, Kim, Osama, Khomeini, Saddam and Idi Amin. These men wreaked havoc and killed millions. Yet, they were confident they were right in what they were doing. Few suspected their insanity because narcissists are often intelligent and cunning.

    When World War II ended and its horrors became known, the world said, “Never Again.” “Never Again” can only work if we choose our leaders wisely. Once a madman is in power it is already too late. Nothing can stop a mad leader except death or war.

    It is time we people of the world demand that those who aspire to become heads of any country, particularly of the USA, submit to rigorous mental check ups. Millions of lives depend on the sanity of these leaders. If the physical health of presidential candidates is important, how much more important is their mental health?

    Therefore, we the people, urge the lawmakers of all democratic countries and particularly the U.S. Congress to raise the issue and make this requirement into a law. It makes no sense that pilots should be required to submit to a psychiatric evaluation for operating commercial aircraft while no such test is needed to run a country. A narcissist in the White House would spell disaster for mankind.

    In the spirit of fairness, we are asking all presidential and vice-presidential candidates in this election to submit to psychiatric evaluation.

    Sincerely,

    The Undersigned

    petitiononline.com/obamapet/petition.html

  129. great..fox news top story signing on at 6:00AM is a lead-in showing hillary’s arrival in japan. the newsman proceeds to mock her saying the crowd gathered there was not for her, but someone else. (can’t recall the name as my blood was boiling!)

    the msm is nothing but whores. every stinking one of them.

  130. it was supposed to be a big joke. ha ha. why am i not laughing? why is it always “ok” to show dis-respect to hillary clinton? to think this fox news puke is the one chosen to travel with our SoS makes me sick.

  131. Clinton Criticizes Bush on N. Korea

    By Glenn Kessler
    Washington Post
    Monday, February 16, 2009

    ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska, Feb. 15 — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton cast doubt Sunday on a claim by the Bush administration that North Korea had a clandestine program to enrich uranium, and she said she will focus on getting the Pyongyang government to give up its stock of weapons-grade plutonium.

    “There is a debate within the intelligence community as to exactly the extent of the highly-enriched-uranium program,” Clinton told reporters traveling with her to Asia on her first voyage as the chief U.S. diplomat. In a slap at her predecessors, Clinton made it clear she believes that the Bush administration’s decision to walk away from an agreement negotiated during her husband’s administration — the 1994 Agreed Framework — helped create the current crisis over North Korea’s stash of nuclear weapons.

    “The Agreed Framework was torn up on the basis of the concerns about the highly-enriched-uranium program,” Clinton said. “There is no debate that, once the Agreed Framework was torn up, the North Koreans began to reprocess plutonium with a vengeance because all bets were off. The result is they now have nuclear weapons, which they did not have before.”

    Plutonium and uranium offer different routes to a nuclear weapon. North Korea’s plutonium-based reactor at Yongbyon was frozen under the 1994 deal, though there were suspicions that its scientists had extracted enough plutonium for perhaps one or two weapons. When the Agreed Framework collapsed in 2002, North Korea restarted the reactor and obtained enough weapons-grade material for at least a half-dozen weapons.

    North Korea conducted a nuclear test in 2006, prompting the Bush administration to begin aggressive diplomacy that resulted in the partial dismantlement of the reactor in exchange for energy aid. The aid mirrored what had been provided under the 1994 deal. The stalled talks over the North Korean program will be a key topic of Clinton’s discussions in Tokyo, Seoul and Beijing; she is also traveling to Jakarta, Indonesia, during her week abroad.

    “My goal is the denuclearization of North Korea,” Clinton said. “That means a verifiably complete accounting of whatever programs they have and the removal of the reprocessed plutonium that they were able to achieve because they were given the opportunity to do so. “When they move forward” on ending the program, she added, “we have a great openness to working with them,” including “a willingness to help the people of North Korea.”

    Clinton’s remarks are certain to find favor in Asian capitals, where many officials thought the Bush administration had initially placed too much emphasis on the uranium issue.
    After the 2006 test, the Bush administration also de-emphasized the uranium concerns, but senior officials raised it anew in the waning weeks of the administration, saying they had obtained new intelligence that cast doubt on North Korean denials.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/15/AR2009021501790.html

  132. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton praises US-Asia ties
    16 February 2009

    • Hillary Clinton arrives in Japan to start Asia tour

    • Clinton looks to “positive start” with Russia

    • North Korea fuels speculation of imminent missile launch

    • Clinton vows to deepen US bonds with Asia

    TOKYO – US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — the first American top diplomat in half a century to start her job with an Asia trip — praised US ties with the region after arriving in Japan Monday. “I have chosen Asia on my first trip as secretary of state to convey that America’s relationships across the Pacific are indispensable to addressing the challenges and seizing the opportunities of the 21st century,” she said.

    Clinton was set to meet Japanese leaders on Tuesday and the following day travel on to Indonesia, followed by South Korea and China. “By strengthening our historic Asia alliances, starting right here in Japan, and forging new partnerships with emerging nations, we can begin together to build networks around the world to help us solve problems that none of us can solve alone,” she said shortly after arriving at Tokyo’s Haneda airport.

    In her talks with Japan’s leaders and citizens, she said, “we will be looking for ways to collaborate on issues that go beyond just our mutual concerns to really addressing the global concerns.”
    These would include “climate change and clean energy, Afghanistan, Pakistan, nuclear proliferation and other common concerns.”

    She added that “the bilateral relationship between the United States and Japan is a cornerstone in our efforts around the world,” adding that Washington and Tokyo needed to work together to address the global financial crisis. Hours before her arrival, North Korea fuelled speculation that it was preparing to test a long-range missile by suggesting it would go ahead with a rocket launch as part of what it called a space programme.

    In Japan, meanwhile, the economics minister warned that Asia’s biggest economy shrank at the fastest pace in 35 years in the fourth quarter and faces the worst crisis since World War II.
    Clinton said “the bilateral relationship between the United States and Japan is a cornerstone in our efforts around the world,” adding that Washington and Tokyo needed to work together to address the global financial crisis.

    During her visit, Clinton was expected to arrange a date in March for US President Barack Obama and Japan’s Prime Minister Taro Aso to meet for the first time, Japan’s Jiji Press reported.
    Japan has greeted Clinton’s visit as a sign that the Obama administration will maintain strong ties with the oldest US regional ally, despite China’s ascendancy as a geopolitical and economic power.

    “We will discuss how to handle the global economic crisis, the North Korean issue, the Afghanistan issue and other issues faced by the international community and the region,” government spokesman Takeo Kawamura said. “We will discuss ways to strengthen the Japan-US alliance. I think we will also strengthen our cooperation between Japan and the United States on the issue of North Korea,” he said.

    Earlier Monday North Korea’s official Korean Central News Agency reported on the planned missile test, asserting the country’s right to “space development.”
    Pyongyang has previously tested missiles under the guise of launching a satellite, and analysts said the latest comments from the North indicated the communist state was on the verge of another attention-grabbing test.

    US and South Korean officials say the North is preparing to test-launch its longest-range missile, the Taepodong-2, which could theoretically reach Alaska.
    Japan was also set to raise the emotive issue of Japanese nationals abducted by North Korea in the 1970s and 1980s to train spies during the Cold War. Clinton has agreed to meet families of the abductees.

    She was to hold talks with embattled Prime Minister Taro Aso, Japan’s foreign and defence ministers, and main opposition leader Ichiro Ozawa, whose party is leading in opinion polls ahead of elections later this year. Clinton also planned to sign an agreement to relocate 8,000 US marines from the southern Japanese base of Okinawa to the Pacific island of Guam.

    She will leave Japan on Wednesday and then visit Indonesia (February 18-19), South Korea (19-20) and China (20-22).
    Channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/409413/1/.html

  133. Hillary’s Japan Opportunity
    A key trans-Pacific alliance needs freshening up. Here’s how to do it.

    By MICHAEL J. GREEN

    As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Tokyo this week, she seems to be finding just the right pitch on Japan. In her Senate confirmation hearings in January she embraced the United States-Japan alliance as the “cornerstone” of America’s Asia strategy. She struck another chord when she said she would meet with the families of Japanese citizens abducted by North Korea, reportedly overruling careerists in the State Department who fretted about Pyongyang’s possible response.

    These are positive steps, but the biggest challenge for Secretary Clinton will be navigating the unraveling political situation in Tokyo. Taro Aso is the third prime minister in as many years, and his rapidly waning support in the polls points to a likely victory by the opposition Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) in elections later this year. However, the DPJ is deeply divided, and many analysts expect that government to also collapse in short order. It could take months, or even years, for stability to return.

    In the meantime, there is a danger that Washington may lose its initial focus on the strategic importance of the alliance as a series of ministers rotates through the Japanese cabinet. So it is important to launch an agenda now that builds on our shared interests and values and that will endure regardless of political developments in Japan.

    First, the U.S. and Japan should forge a new partnership on climate change. Most of President Barack Obama’s energy experts are fixated on a strategic partnership with Beijing, and China certainly is the most difficult outlier in the global debate on climate. But that is precisely why the U.S. and Japan, as the world’s two largest economies, should lead in setting standards on a market-based cap-and-trade system and technology cooperation that can be used to build a broader consensus in Asia that helps to draw in China.

    Second, the U.S. should be more willing to cooperate with Japan on defense and space programs. Tokyo is eager to procure fifth-generation American fighter aircraft and wants to collaborate on satellites and launch vehicles. But officials in Washington, excessively nervous about the possible diplomatic and security consequences of such sales, have been stonewalling for more than a year on both fronts. Given the growing North Korean missile threat and the rapid expansion of China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force, this is no time to pull back on defense cooperation.

    Third, the two countries should revitalize the subcabinet-level economic dialogue begun in 2001 to encourage Japan to take action on regulatory reform, disposal of nonperforming loans and deflation. But this time, the U.S. side also needs to listen to Japan, particularly on deflation. Both sides still have much to do, but Tokyo has been far more proactive than Washington about returning liquidity to the economy by purchasing stocks and buying back regular and inflation-adjusted bonds.

    Finally, the U.S. should pick up on one of Mr. Aso’s better ideas: the promotion of an “arc of freedom and prosperity” across Asia. At a time when weak states need stronger institutions and Chinese economic assistance is increasingly undermining good governance in the developing world, the U.S. and Japan should be at the center of a new development alliance that helps states strengthen democratic institutions and the rule of law.

    In Japan there is frequent concern that Democratic administrations in Washington become too protectionist, too close to China and too accommodating to North Korea. Secretary Clinton has gone a long way toward dispelling those misgivings. Now both sides must craft a strategic agenda that reflects both countries’ core interests and ensures that Washington’s attention does not drift in the face of domestic turmoil in Japan.

    Mr. Green is senior advisor and Japan chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and associate professor at Georgetown University.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB123472459336290663.html

  134. It is not just about the smile that is disarming but the EYES.Hillarys eyes are the windows to her soul and determination to mak e things right for all oeople of the world.
    By contrast,look back to eyes of Condolleeza Rice and experience the cold indifferent flow of disdain distrust for all who she encountered in her travels.They reflect the sour grapes syndrome that also prevails in the dead eyes of BHO when he disagrees on any subject.
    I suspect that we are seeing and experiencing a political version of a coup d’e-tat by not only wall street but also foreign power brokers that put into office the most unqualified egomaniac
    ever to rise so high in our history using race as a wedge and a tool to divide and conquer all things and all people who stand in his way.
    He is not a benito,adolph,caesar,fidel or messiah but just a another pretender.

    By ABM90. Hillary is now the star that the world can turn to for
    confidence and trust that our ship of state is on course and in steady hands at the helm.

  135. GOV’S HY-PAY-CRISY
    STAFFERS GET SECRET RAISES AMID ‘FREEZE’

    ALBANY – Gov. Paterson has secretly granted raises of as much as 46 percent to more than a dozen staffers at a time when he has asked 130,000 state workers to give up 3 percent pay hikes because of the state’s fiscal crisis, The Post has learned.

    to read more:
    nypost.com/seven/02162009/news/columnists/govs_hy_pay_crisy_155409.htm

  136. Pleasant item for a grey day:

    Newser) – Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel appeared together in a surprise reunion at a Manhattan weekend concert, Reuters reports. It was only the third time the famous duo, now both 67, have performed together since a 2004 reunion tour. Garfunkel appeared on stage to sing The Sound of Silence, The Boxer and Old Friends during the encore of Simon’s concert at the restored Beacon Theatre, where the audience included Mayor Bloomberg, Paul McCartney and Jon Bon Jovi.

    Source: Reuters

  137. As expected, MSM praising BO and his “good start”. If this had been Hillary, her “failure to lead” or lack of “bi-partisanship” would be the news headline/lead in every major paper and or so called MSM.

  138. djia Says:

    February 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
    GOV’S HY-PAY-CRISY
    STAFFERS GET SECRET RAISES AMID ‘FREEZE’

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    My goodness! Hasn’t politics taken hit after hit lately…the dims began with obama, opened pandora’s box, and look how many have crossed the lines since…or at least been found out!


  139. Obama to ease curbs on CEO pay

    Wants late fix to stimulus plan

    the caps inserted into the $787 billion Democrat-crafted stimulus Congress passed Friday are too restrictive and could be counterproductive, administration officials said on Sunday’s political talk shows.

    h…./ no w’s
    washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/16/obama-seeking-to-ease-limits-on-executive-salaries/?page=2
    Login link is in the middle of this page, above the comments (6 so far). We have NOT done alerts here before, sfair.

  140. February 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
    GOV’S HY-PAY-CRISY
    STAFFERS GET SECRET RAISES AMID ‘FREEZE’

    ====================

    Offhand I’m a little sceptical;most likely the Post is out to get Paterson.

  141. turndownobama-com Says:

    February 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

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    I wonder how many other “little” changes obama is going to try to slip into the plan before he’s done.

  142. Saturday, January 31, 2009
    The Obama Democrats: by the numbers

    directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-democrats-by-numbers.html

  143. North Korea Threatens Long-Range Missile Test

    MARK LANDLER and CHOE SANG-HUN
    Published: February 16, 2009
    TOKYO — As Hillary Rodham Clinton arrived in Japan on Monday, her first foreign visit as secretary of state, North Korea threatened to test what its neighbors believe is a ballistic missile capable of reaching the United States.
    Speaking briefly at an airport arrival ceremony, Mrs. Clinton did not directly address the reports from North Korea, but on the flight over she continued to employ a tone that was notably softer than previous American pronouncements, echoing remarks she made in New York last week.

    “Our position is when they move forward in presenting a verifiable and complete dismantling and denuclearization, we have a great openness to working with them,” she said. She also repeated her offer to normalize ties with North Korea and help rebuild its economy if it abandoned its nuclear weapons.

    But in what appeared to be a pointed challenge to her mission on this trip to Asia and a test for the new Obama administration, North Korea issued an oblique statement responding to recent news reports that it had been preparing to test-launch a Taepodong-2 missile from a base on its east coast. “One will come to know later what will be launched,” the North’s state-run news agency, KCNA, said Monday, the 67th birthday of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il.

    In Seoul, the South Korean defense minister Lee Sang-hee said North Korea had been preparing to test a Taepodong-2 missile since January. In recent weeks, South Korean media have reported that North Korean engineers were assembling a 105-foot Taepodong-2 missile. Analysts and government officials in the region have feared that North Korea may launch a long-range missile to help make its nuclear program a top foreign policy issue for President Obama. North Korea has also threatened a naval clash with South Korea on their disputed western sea border. With its economy in shambles and isolated from most of the world, North Korea has often used military threats to extract economic aid and diplomatic benefits from other countries.

    As she landed in Tokyo, Mrs. Clinton appeared to be sticking with her previously scheduled agenda of a trip this week to four Asian countries, intended to build solidarity between the United States and Asia on issues like the global economic crisis and climate change. Stepping from her plane on a blustery, cold evening, she reaffirmed the “cornerstone” alliance between Washington and Tokyo and declared that “we have to work together to address the global financial crisis, which is affecting all of us.”

    With the Japanese government reporting on Monday that its economy shrank at the sharpest quarterly rate since 1974, the financial crisis is sure to figure high on Mrs. Clinton’s agenda, not just in Japan, but in Indonesia, South Korea, and China, which she will visit later in the week. Choosing to make Asia her first official visit, rather than Europe or the Middle East, where secretaries of state traditionally begin their diplomatic travels, was also intended to send a message that the region was a high priority.

    “This region is indispensable to our efforts to seize the opportunities and meet the challenges of the 21st century,” she told reporters aboard the plane. Mrs. Clinton said she would pursue a partnership on climate change in China at the end of this week. She suggested, though, that she did not intend to press Beijing to accept mandatory caps on carbon emissions, something President Obama supports, but which is not yet American policy. “There are a number of different ways which we can explore with the Chinese to be partners,” she said. She also praised the Chinese for adopting a “robust” economic stimulus program, and said she would brief leaders on the Obama administration’s stimulus package. While she said would raise human-rights concerns in Beijing, the subject does not seem likely to come up prominently.

    Turning to another tense relationship, Mrs. Clinton said she would meet in two weeks with the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, for what she said she hoped would be a “positive start.” But she said the Obama administration had not decided whether to scale back a missile-defense system in Eastern Europe that has caused tension between Moscow and Washington. Mrs. Clinton’s choice of Japan for her first stop is meant to reassure the Japanese that they remain America’s key Asian ally. Ten years ago, former President Bill Clinton skipped Japan during an Asian swing and spent more than a week in Beijing — a practice some dubbed “Japan-passing.”

    This time, however, Japan looms large in efforts to recover from the global economic crisis. With its enormous foreign-exchange reserves, the country has pledged up to $100 billion in aid to the International Monetary Fund to help countries facing credit shortages because of the crisis. The United States and Japan are also scheduled to sign an agreement to begin moving 8,000 Marines from Okinawa to Guam — something the Pentagon has long sought as part of its realignment of forces in the Pacific. To the traditional list of official meetings, Mrs. Clinton has added a town-hall meeting at a university, the kind of encounter she thrived on as first lady and political candidate. On Tuesday, she will tour the Meiji Shrine, a Shinto shrine dedicated to Emperor Meiji in the 1920s.

    Mrs. Clinton also plans to meet the leader of the opposition Democratic Party of Japan, Ichiro Ozawa. That may rattle the government of Prime Minister Taro Aso, which is deeply unpopular and on shaky ground. En route, Mrs. Clinton also mixed her conciliatory tone toward North Korea with a warning that the North Korean government must be more forthcoming about the fate of Japanese citizens whom it abducted in the 1970’s and 1980’s. “The abductee issue is a grave issue, it is such a human tragedy,” Mrs. Clinton said to reporters on her plane before a refueling stop in Alaska. On Tuesday, in what could be a dramatic highlight of the trip, she plans to meet with the families of Japanese who were abducted.

    Mrs. Clinton played down suspicions, held by some in the Bush administration, that North Korea has a clandestine program to produce highly enriched uranium. What is not in dispute, she said, is that North Korea possesses plutonium, which it is using to make nuclear weapons.

    nytimes.com/2009/02/17/washington/17diplo.html?hp

  144. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/ap_on_go_pr_wh/ranking_presidents

    “…In C-SPAN’s only other ranking of presidents, in 2000, former President Bill Clinton jumped six spots from No. 21 to 15. Other recent presidents moved positions as well: Ronald Reagan advanced from No. 11 to 10, George H.W. Bush rose from No. 20 to 18 and Jimmy Carter fell from No. 22 to 25…”
    _________________________
    65 Historians ranked the Presidents. Lincoln ranked number one….guess they are the ones re-writing the school and college history textbooks [Annenburg Challenge?] and are not remembering the REAL history of Lincoln who is reported to have been mentally ill with depression.
    They did get one thing right……the Carter presidency. Carter’s presidency is the forerunner for the Huckster’s. Back in the primaries, I did a graphic with comparisons to Jimmy Carter, there were many.

    She who SHOULD have been President would have been another historical presidency – and if history writes the complete and accurate history it will be recorded that the election process and her win was stolen from her.

  145. KATHLEEN PARKER COMMENTARY
    Amateur time at the White House

    The first however-many days of Barack Obama’s presidency have been a study in amateurism. Many suspected that Obama wasn’t quite ready but kept their fingers crossed. Optimistic disappointment is the new holding pattern.

    What’s missing from Obama’s performance isn’t the intelligence that voters acknowledged in electing him. It’s the experience they tried to pretend didn’t really matter. Experienced politicians, after all, got us into this mess. Absent is maturity — that grown-up quality of leadership that is palpable when the real deal enters a room. There’s a reason why elders are respected. They have something the rest of us don’t have, yet, because we haven’t lived long enough. We haven’t made the really tough decisions, the ones that are often unpopular.

    There’s also a reason why it’s lonely at the top. The view is better, but the summit isn’t so much a mountaintop as a deserted city. Obama wants too much to be liked. This isn’t a character flaw. In fact his winning personality and likability have served him well through the years. Growing up between two cultures — black and white, American and Indonesian — he had to learn how to get along. By all accounts, he became easy company.

    But there’s a price one pays in becoming president. Giving up being liked is the ultimate public sacrifice. This was the hardest lesson for Bill Clinton, who loved people and found the isolation of the presidency particularly brutal. Similarly, Obama wants to stay in touch with everyday Americans, as symbolized by his reluctance to surrender his BlackBerry.

    Obama has at times recently looked younger than usual. Not youthful so much as not fully formed. He seemed out of place in his presidential role. In a word, he seemed haunted. Had he been visited by the ghosts of Christmas future? Or had he looked across the table into the eyes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and realized that he was not among friends? Obama’s lack of authority over the stimulus package has underscored the value of political experience and toughness — and given weakened Republicans the leverage they needed to launch an aggressive attack.

    In the midst of it all, Obama and Michelle went to an elementary school to read to second-graders, a now time-honored presidential release valve. Clinton read to children during his impeachment hearings. Bush, eternally and infamously, will be remembered for reading The Pet Goat to an elementary school class as airplanes were slamming into the World Trade Center towers.

    Obama said they were “just tired of being in the White House.” Oh, just wait. Other manifestations of Obama’s political greenness include his apology for picking lax taxpayers for prominent positions, his campaign-like tour to Elkhart, Ind., and his ponderous first news conference after that trip.

    Why did Obama feel it necessary to apologize for others’ mistakes? If improper vetting was the problem, just say so. Admittedly, the problem became comical as one after another Obama appointee turned up with tax debts. Q: How do you get Democrats to pay taxes? A: Appoint them to Cabinet positions.

    But Obama’s eager confession — “I screwed up” — hit a hollow note. Doubtless, he was trying to demonstrate “change” by distinguishing himself from Bush, who could never quite put a finger on his mistakes. Rather than seeming Trumanesque in stopping the buck at his desk, Obama seemed more like an abused spouse who starts her day saying, “It’s all my fault.”

    In Elkhart, the president seemed locked in campaign mode, still wooing the crowd and seeking approval. At his news conference, the overriding impression was of a man not fully in control of his message or his material. Nine minutes into the first answer to the first question, I began missing Bush’s customary dispatch. Bush’s contempt for the media meant he never stayed long enough to bore us.

    The faith of the American people may not have been misplaced in Obama. But the young senator from Illinois became a president overnight, before he had time to gain the confidence and wisdom earned through trials and errors.

    Those have just begun.

    kansascity.com/273/story/1036166.html

  146. He has a beautiful white mansion in DC with the best of every thing to make life easy.
    He has a weekend vacation home at Camp David,best of every thing.
    He has a mansion in Chicago he bought on the cheap.
    He is tired and worn out after less than a month in office.
    Why do taxpayers have to foot the bill for a long weekend in Chicago?
    Why not fly Rezko to see him?

    Can anyone come up with the figures for the use of Airforce One and the personnel involved including SS for this R and R jaunt?

    wbboei:Perhaps you could enlighten us poor peons on the low end of stick.

    By ABM90 I call it “milking the system”

  147. ABM90 please repost your last comment into the new article. Your comment is very close to a short version of the new article.

  148. Emjay Says:
    The way you feel about the NYPost, I do about the Washington Times.

    ================

    A pox on both their presses. This is the first time I recall quoting from the Wash Times, and I hesitated. But it all did name sources and said they were on yesterday’s tv, and I didn’t see another story on the subject.

    NY Post I’m not familiar with, they seemed spotting and undependable at least during the Paterson appointment decision. Are they the one with the tabloid website?

  149. I’ve just posted at Hillary’s Village:

    More voters wanted Hillary on Nov 4 too. 9.5 million of McCain’s voters said they would have voted for Hillary if she had been the Democratic nominee. She would have won by 12% vs Obama’s 7%. (This calculation allows for the Obama voters who would have stayed home but not the Hillary voters who did stay home.)
    See cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/11/12/politics/horserace/entry4596620.shtml?source=search_story

    Also the great youth turnout didn’t happen.

    Obama Won Without Voter-Turnout Surge Experts Had Predicted
    Dec. 2 (Bloomberg) — About 130 million Americans voted, up from 122 million four years ago. Still, turnout fell short of the 140 million voters many experts had forecast. With a little more than 61 percent of eligible voters casting ballots, the 2008 results also didn’t match the record 63.8 percent turnout rate that helped propel President John F. Kennedy to victory in 1960.
    [….]
    Experts attribute the shortfall to a combination of reasons: Many disaffected Republicans stayed home. Young voters, particularly those without college degrees, didn’t turn out in the numbers that the Obama campaign projected. [Ohio] turnout fell from 2004 even after the state was targeted as a top priority by both parties.

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