Barack Obama Lies, Lies, and More Lies

Before congress votes… don’t say we didn’t warn you. Dimocrats will be held accountable for the ugly consequences of voting for a massive Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam.

What Dimocrats will be voting on we can’t really say. Obama has broken his promise to let Americans see legislation before it is signed.

Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.

It’s another Obama broken promise:

When President Obama signed his first bill without posting it to the Web for five days of public comment, we gave him his first Promise Broken.

For his second bill, Obama signed an expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides health coverage for low-income children. He signed it on Feb. 4, 2009, just hours after it was finalized in Congress.

This time, though, the White House had posted the text of the working bill to its Web site on Feb. 1, 2009, with the following note : “Since this version of the bill is expected to pass the House of Representatives in the coming week, we are making the legislation available for public comment now.”

That doesn’t quite cut it for his promise, though. The legislation was still in process in Congress, and even if no substantial changes were made, the possibility was still there. It’s not the five-day waiting period he had promised.

It’s also not emergency legislation. The bill’s provisions don’t kick in until April 1, 2009, almost three months from signing.

The American public does not know what is voted on. Legislators do not know what they are voting on. Americans will suffer, legislators will be held to account.

Nancy Pelosi knows Dimocrats will be held to account in 2010 – she said so to Chris the Hut, among other embarrassments:

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Speaker, thank you. I was watching yesterday from my office, and I saw Senator Harry Reid walk out with some Republican senators and announced there was an agreement on the giant economy recovery bill. Where were you?

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Well, they had agreement among themselves, and we were pretty much in agreement, but they had just reached agreement, were eager to announce it. We wanted to see the language. And it all worked out just fine.

MATTHEWS: But Senator Reid said there was an agreement at that time. Was there, between the House and the Senate?

PELOSI: Pretty much. But again, you have to see the language. In other words, words have power, and they make a difference.

Pelosi wanted to read the language on the bill. Senator Harry Reid said there was agreement without seeing the language. Reid had on an earlier vote said he had the votes, but he did not have the votes. Now Reid simply did not care to read what he was voting on.

Pelosi knows that Dimocrats will be held to account in 2010 – she said so to Chris the Hut. Dimocrats will try to count any job as “saved” but Americans will not be fooled:

MATTHEWS: How will we judge its success? If next year at this time, the unemployment rate is higher than it is now, can you say this was a success? [snip]

MATTHEWS: So, if it works, it will stop that loss of jobs?

PELOSI: It will stop the loss of jobs, and the president has said three and a half, whatever the number is now, but up to four million jobs saved or created. And we hope that the emphasis will be on the created, that a large majority of those jobs will be created but it is about saving jobs as well. But we will be accountable….

Dimocrats will be held to account in 2010, Pelosi agreed to the “scorecard” that will be the basis of Republican television ads in 2010:

MATTHEWS: In that spirit, I want to give you a scorecard.

PELOSI: All right.

MATTHEWS: And you tell me if it’s fair. You have turned the economy around by next November, the 2010 election for Congress. The next congressional …

PELOSI: The next, next …

MATTHEWS: You will have turned the economy around. It will be clear that the congressional action on this big recovery bill, that the unemployment rate has stopped going up, that things are turning around. You will by then have a serious health bill, for national health insurance and you’ll have energy legislation passed. You’ll have education passed.

Is that a fair scorecard? By next congressional election, that you as speaker
can deliver on all those four issues, economic turnaround, energy, education and
health, can you do it all and come to the people and say we did what we said we would do?

PELOSI: We will make very serious progress in all of those areas. Whether we – I think that we will be able to do those things. That’s what we set out to do. And we’ll work together to try to achieve that.

MATTHEWS: So that’s a fair scorecard?

PELOSI: That’s a fair scorecard. And it’s not just what has passed or this or that, it’s how far down the road are you on these issues. In other words, we passed a very big, historic energy bill under President Bush. It didn’t do everything we wanted it to do, but that didn’t mean it wasn’t great. We’ll pass another energy bill and energy, health, economy, what was your fourth?

Pelosi will try to wiggle out of these four promises but the television ads won’t let her. Expect “scorecard” ads to air in 2010.

Nancy Pelosi will try to wiggle out of her four promises. Nancy Pelosi less than 24 hours after saying “you have to see the language” showed the language to lobbyists but not legislators.

We’re receiving E-mails from Capitol Hill staffers expressing frustration that they can’t get a copy of the stimulus bill agreed to last night at a price of $789 billion. What’s more, staffers are complaining about who does have a copy: K Street lobbyists. E-mails one key Democratic staffer: “K Street has the bill, or chunks of it, already, and the congressional offices don’t. So, the Hill is getting calls from the press (because it’s leaking out) asking us to confirm or talk about what we know—but we can’t do that because we haven’t seen the bill. Anyway, peeps up here are sort of a combo of confused and like, ‘Is this really happening?‘” Reporters pressing for details, meanwhile, are getting different numbers from different offices, especially when seeking the details of specific programs.

Worse, there seem to be several different versions of what was agreed upon, with some officials circulating older versions of the package that seems to still be developing. Leadership aides said that it will work out later today and promised that lawmakers will get time to review the bill before Friday’s vote.

Of course, even if they had a copy of the bill – the numbers don’t add up:

A White House estimate of the number of jobs stimulus legislation will create includes some sharp discrepancies between state and local jobs claims. [snip]

“State totals may not sum due to rounding,” the chart says at the bottom, though in some cases — most dramatically, understandably, in small states — the rounding error represents a large share of the projected jobs. [snip]

The differences sometimes give larger jobs figures for the states, sometimes for the districts.

In California, the difference is 25,900 jobs.

The figures illustrate the roughness of economic estimates that are being promoted energetically to local press around the country.

A Republican spokesman states: “How there could be a rounding error in places like Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, or Washington, D.C., where there is exactly 1 state and 1 congressional district that encompass the exact same area and population?”

The answer of course is, as Big Daddy would say: Mendacity!

Barack Obama has always lived with mendacity – it’s the Chicago way.

The latest Obama mendacity – lies – was exposed by a member of his own economic advisory board, Jim Owens.

President Obama today repeated the claim we asked about yesterday at the press briefing that Jim Owens, the CEO of Caterpillar, Inc., “said that if Congress passes our plan, this company will be able to rehire some of the folks who were just laid off.”

Caterpillar announced 22,000 layoffs last month.

But after the president left the event, Owens said the exact opposite.

Asked if the stimulus package would be able to stop the 22,000 layoffs or not, Owens said, “I think realistically no. The truth is we’re going to have more layoffs before we start hiring again

“It is going to take some time before that stimulus bill” means re-hiring, he said.


Some mistake mendacity – lies – for inexperience. Obama is unqualified and inexperienced to be president. But Obama is very qualified and very experienced in lies. Republican Senator Bob Bennet thinks Obama is inexperienced but he is wrong. Obama is experienced in the arts of deception:

Sen Judd Gregg’s decision to withdraw his name for Commerce Secretary is a sign of President Obama’s inexperience, Republican Sen Bob Bennet of Utah said.

I think it is a demonstration of inexperience. You don’t attract someone of Judd Gregg caliber into the cabinet and then take steps that would cause him to leave without at least talking to him and understanding that that might happen,” he told reporters Thursday.

Senator Bennet, whom we likely have never ever agreed with on anything excuses Obama as an inexperienced dolt. But it was not inexperience that led to yesterday’s Gregg fiasco – it was mendacity. What did Obama know and when did he know it?

The White House — where some aides were caught off guard by the withdrawal — initially responded harshly to Gregg’s announcement, portraying the New Hampshire Republican as someone who sought the job and then had a “change of heart.” [snip]

Obama himself told an Illinois newspaper that Gregg’s withdrawal was “something of a surprise” because the senator had “approached us with interest and seemed enthusiastic.”

Although one White House aide said he was “blindsided” by the news, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said Gregg signaled to the administration earlier in week that he was having second thoughts and Obama met with him Wednesday at the White House to urge him to stay.

In an on-plane briefing as the president flew on Air Force One to Springfield on Thursday evening, Gibbs said that Gregg told the president of his decision to withdraw in a telephone call on Wednesday.

But Obama later told the pool reporter on the flight that he hadn’t known until today, and called Gregg “a good man” who had a “change of heart.”

Obama was told in person by Gregg himself on Wednesday about the withdrawal. Obama personally and via professional liar Gibbs said he did not know until the moment it happened. Obama is very experienced at lying. Mendacity!

The Obama lies are not happenstance – the lies are calculated. Politico reported at 8:28 p.m. on Thursday:

Obama, who just landed in Springfield, offered a different chronology that Gibbs, who in turn had a different one than Axelrod. From pool’s report on brief remarks from POTUS on Air Force One:

Key thing: He said he talked to Sen. Gregg yesterday and knew he was having second thoughts, but that he didn’t know Gregg had made up his mind until today. He didn’t say how he found out about the final decision, but he didn’t mention a phone call today. He didn’t take a follow-up about Axelrod’s assertion that Gregg’s public statement was the source of the information. [snip]

“I wasn’t sure whether he’d made a final decision” after speaking to Gregg yesterday, the president said. When did you find out? he was asked. “Today,” he said, with a smile.

A senior Democratic official says that Obama tried to “talk Gregg down” in their conversation yesterday. (8:28 p.m.)

Obama lies with a smile just like Judas betrayed with a kiss.


100 thoughts on “Barack Obama Lies, Lies, and More Lies

  1. Admin: Pelosi has created her own mbo. How nice for her. It may turn out to be a political death warrant in 2010. I like scorecards. It is easier to determine how many jobs were added than it is to say how many were saved. We need a working definition. Also we need to know she is not transposing zeros–like 500 million Americans.

  2. He does have ants in his pants doesn’t he? Now MSM and his staff are giving out excuses for him to get into his “cool plane” and escape from the confines of an office and his desk***
    Hardened Obama plans new fights; his dream of bipartisanship takes hit

    Jonathan Martin, Mike Allen Jonathan Martin, Mike Allen – 2 hrs 54 mins ago

    Emboldened by his victory on the stimulus package — but chastened by the pothole-pocked road that got him there — -President Barack Obama and his aides are plunging ahead on a large and expensive agenda that virtually assures 2009 will be marked by intense partisan battles about the size and role of government.

    White House aides say they have concluded that Obama too frequently lost control of the debate and his own image during the stimulus battle. By this reckoning, the story became too much about failed efforts at bipartisanship and Washington deal-making, and not enough about the president’s public salesmanship.

    For Obama’s next act, the program is the same as he has been planning for months: New Deal-style plans to rescue struggling homeowners and rewrite regulations on the financial markets, plus a budget proposal that lays the groundwork for sweeping health care reform.

    But the strategy to promote these items is getting an emergency overhaul. Obama plans to travel more and campaign more in an effort to pressure lawmakers with public support, rather than worrying about whether he can win over Republican votes in Congress. Officials suggested that the new, more partisan tone Obama embraced last week in his speech before House Democrats at their retreat and continued at his news conference Monday was what he should have been doing all along.

    Meeting with reporters Thursday night, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said that there were times during the stimulus debate when “I don’t think we were sharp about the benefits” of the legislation, letting Washington process dominate the message.

    Reflecting as “somebody who has been in this town,” he observed that “there’s an insatiable appetite for the notion of bipartisanship here and we allowed that to get ahead of ourselves.”

    But Emanuel said that they recognized they had overdone their initial outreach to Republicans and had offered “a sharp message for the last week.”

    For now, the hard-charging chief of staff added, “He has an open hand, but he has a very firm handshake.”

    Translation: Yes, the president will continue to do obligatory outreach to the GOP, but he’s not going to be burned again by an out-of-power and toothless minority for the sake of appearances.

    This may be the only practical course. Obama’s call for compromise and change in how Washington does its business was quickly rebuffed by both parties in Congress. Both Democrats and Republicans have political needs and authentic ideological priorities that matter a lot more to them than whether Washington is a civil place.

    Implicit in Obama’s lessons-learned appraisal from the stimulus battle is also a new realism about his own party. His initial decision to give House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the liberal House Democratic caucus so much leeway in drafting the stimulus bill allowed Obama to be tarred with some of the most controversial items in the package. Going on the road means he is able to soar over Pelosi’s head as well as Republicans.

    The Washington climate, which led to a party-line vote on the stimulus, has big political implications: It means that Obama will have sole ownership — whether that means credit or blame — for all the massive changes in government he envisions over the coming year.

    For the near term, Obama’s public agenda will keep its overwhelming emphasis on domestic matters, even as many of the most fundamental questions are in foreign policy. Within the administration, urgent reviews of Iraq and Afghanistan policies are underway. But the West Wing itself has been preoccupied, with Emanuel himself taking the lead on legislative arm-twisting on the stimulus vote.

    The president’s next few agenda items will be grouped as “getting the country’s financial house in order” — a plan to help struggling homeowners, financial regulatory reform and the budget.

    “Financial regulatory and housing are the other … legs of the economic stool,” Emanuel said. Looking ahead, he also mentioned stem-cell research and renewable standards on energy, Obama continues to plan for year-one action on health care, starting with his budget request, although officials announce that his ambitions have been set back by the withdrawal of Tom Daschle, who was to be his White House health czar and secretary of Health and Human Services.

    After a Valentine’s weekend getaway to Chicago, Obama will sign the stimulus package early next week and then make his first trip to the West, with stops planned in Colorado and Arizona. He’ll also leave the country for the first time as president, heading over the border Thursday for a one-day trip to Ottawa for meetings with Prime Minister Stephen Harper and other Canadian officials.

    The following week, the president will head to Capitol Hill to speak to a joint session of Congress, then will present his budget for 2010. On Feb. 23, the day before the address to Congress, the president will convene a “fiscal responsibility summit” in Washington, most likely at the White House, with top administration officials, members of Congress and outside groups to discuss entitlement and long-term budget issues.

    “There will be a lot of things [going on] slowly but concurrently,” a White House official said. “Senate] Finance will start working on health care, [House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry] Waxman will start working on energy, [House Financial Services Committee Chairman] Barney Frank will start working on regulatory reform.”

    Capitol Hill Democrats expect an energy bill to be fast-tracked, since Waxman wants to move ahead on a comprehensive energy and global warming bill. The White House may only pursue a lesser initial package dealing with such matters as funding the transmission grid.

    David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager, said the American people view Obama “even more strongly now than they did before,” because has responded to a “crisis of leadership” in the government and the corporate worlds — “a sense that no one was in charge, no one was trying to course-correct.”

    During his Thursday roundtable with print reporters, Emanuel pointed proudly to the “set of accomplishments” from Obama’s first three weeks, but acknowledged: “There are things both on the inside and the outside I would have changed.”

    “Inside, being how we would have handled certain negotiations,” he explained, noting that given the size and speed of a bill with “these many moving parts, there are differences [of] interpretation.”

    Obama looked liberated and at ease when he finally took to the road this week, prompting the banner headline “Salesman-in-chief” in his hometown Chicago Tribune. “We’ve got to get him out of that White House,” a top adviser said, listing “some very valuable lessons” learned from the stimulus fight. “He’s happier, he’s better, he’s more effective. The inside game is important, but it’s actually not where the success of his presidency is going to come.”

    Officials say that although Obama won’t necessarily travel every week, as was suggested in one briefing, he will continue to be out of the White House a lot. “He feels best, he is at his best, and our agenda is the most popular and at its best when it’s getting sold by the popular in the administration and the person who connects with voters,” one official said.

    A longtime adviser contends that Obama “actually didn’t spend a lot of political capital” on the stimulus, “because at the end of the day, he wasn’t on the phone begging Democrats to vote for it.” The adviser added: “He’s going to get credit for getting some stuff done at a time when people are just desperate to feel like something is happening.”

  3. henry Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
    One more time I ask why are the accusations about lincoln’s sexuality aired on CBS Morning program several years later when the fluff programs gave the issue no credence a few years ago? Is it a pathetic attempt to ingratiate waffles to the gay community?

    Hmmm, your conspiracy theory just might have some merit.

    WWAPD (what would austin powers do?): “Yah baby, Abe-y baby loved to shag, and maybe some times with the dudes. Freedom, baby, yah”.

  4. No Republican votes for the flim-flam “stimulus” scam in the House. The opposition to the “stimulus” was bipartisan with a few Democrats voting against.

    Politico has this on the Senate situation:

    But a top Senate GOP aide pushes back a bit in an E-mail to us:

    Not that you outright argued Rahm was romancing the Senate GOP en masse, but I do think his/admin’s approach to the stimulus negotiations – a few calculated moves to pick off 2-3 GOPers – did more to damage their relationship with the Senate GOP than they know. There was a tremendous amount of goodwill and interest in working with the Prez on this and other big issues and this first experience was like a bad first date. Will make it tougher the next time around. Sort of a win the battle lose the war vibe.

  5. re-post from last thread regarding Today’s Hillary’s LIVE Asian Conference:

    # Mrs. Smith Says:
    February 13th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    And I would be remiss if I didn’t mention Hillary’s statements from her Asian conference regarding the work she plans on doing with other countries and her specific knowledge with details to every question asked of her by the moderator.

    Her responses were awesome. I’m sure leaving everyone in attendance at the conference awestruck at her acute knowledge and understanding of attending to World solutions.

    Hillary by far is the most astute politician we have representing us in the country bar none! We are very lucky she is who she is knowing she is there for us and the betterment of our country, building bridges for us everywhere she travels.

    She is an amazing person with the skills and multitasking talent never seen before in anyone holding the position of Secretary of State.

    Bill was right! Hillary is Magnificent. I’m thrilled she’s taken the opportunity to shine and is running with the ball.

  6. Mrs. Smith,I agree about Hillary and how magnificent she is and her skilllevel superior to every active politican.
    Admin, I may just design scorecard to post here, jpg format okay?
    We and everyone else MUST hold Pelooopsi and administration accountable. She will lie, but the scorecard and documented interviews will not.

  7. THE WEASEL-CLAUSE CHALLENGE: Pick out the key weasel words in our two weasel challenges.

    1. From admin’s posting up top, the link is to Obama’sweb site, where up top it says:

    Obama: “I’m asking you to believe. Not just in my abilitiy to bring about real change in
    Washington…I’m asking you to believe in yours”.

    If we omit the word “…just” , we get: “Not ___ in my abilitiy to bring about real change in
    Washington…I’m asking you to believe in yours”

    So once again, he admits he’s not really here to get stuff done. If people want stuff done, they’ll have to believe in themselves, and then fight for it themselves.

    By putting the weasle word “just” back in, it makes it seem that people should believe he has the *ability* to bring about real change.

    Another bonus weasel phrase is “ability”. You don’t just need the *ability* to accomplish, to win, you need the **will**. Great athletes aren’t just talented; they practice, and have great inner conviction and determination. Obama just wants to let us know that he’s merely talented.

    2. Also from that web site:

    Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days. ”

    Weasel word here is “non-emergency”. Who defines what bill or situation as an “emergency”? Just like all disregard for constitutional matters under Bush was declared to be because of the “war on terror”, this is *emgergency* term is an all-purpose excuse.

    Finally, one of the definitions for the word weasel is: “a sneaky, untrustworthy, or insincere person”

  8. Creating a Scorecard is a Wonderful Idea, Short Termer!

    It will serve as a reminder of just how much of a sociopath Obama really IS!

    Admin says:

    Obama is experienced in the arts of deception:

    Sen Judd Gregg’s decision to withdraw his name for Commerce Secretary is a sign of President Obama’s inexperience, Republican Sen Bob Bennet of Utah said.

    “I think it is a demonstration of inexperience. You don’t attract someone of Judd Gregg caliber into the cabinet and then take steps that would cause him to leave without at least talking to him and understanding that that might happen,” he told reporters Thursday.


    Admin- what are your thoughts on the possibilty of Gregg wanting a first hand look at Obama’s plans to be able to report back to the core GOP for their own knowledge and futher action to upend or embarress Obama if they so choose?


    Sen. Edward Kennedy, battling brain cancer, will miss the final Senate vote on the economic stimulus package.
    Kennedy spokeswoman Melissa Wagoner said Friday that Kennedy was continuing his treatment and physical rehabilitation in warmer weather.

    The Massachusetts Democrat has been working from Florida recently, and had returned to the Senate on Monday for an earlier stimulus vote.

    Wagoner said Kennedy probably won’t be on hand for the final vote since Democrats don’t need his vote for final passage. She said Kennedy will travel back and forth until the weather gets warmer in Washington.

    Kennedy suffered a seizure on Inauguration Day last month.

  10. Oh, Lord, will someone take this damned computer away from me before I start talking about Lincoln/Dumbledore slash.

  11. JanH Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    turndownobama-com Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 3:20 am


    What??? Is Geithner trying to destroy Hillary’s first tour before it even gets underway?


    HUH! I’m not criticizing Geithner about anything to date.

  12. JanH,

    Ok, okay, I found my dig at Geithner+Obama. I was so focused on the dig at Obama that I forgot it was Geithner this time.

    My point was that Geithner’s boo-boo wasn’t threatening to invade anyone (sfaik at that point in time).

    I think I’m over-caffeinated.

  13. # independent2008 Says:
    February 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Obama is now the new Lincoln?

    But, but, but…… I thought he was the new JFK and Michelle the new Jackie O. Has he now thrown the Kennedys under the bus. I thought that Obama being the next JFK is what inspired Caroline to back him and why Ted Kennedy backstabbed Hillary for her remark of Johnson signing the Civil Rights bill (which is true). LOL!!!

    Obama has been compared to every great historical and religious figure. He’s been Jesus Christ (oddly enough, candidate Obama’s webpage had images of him looking at up as if to the heavenly father), Ghandi, Lincoln, MLK… I’m sure I’ve left out a few names. Suffice it to say, Obama supporters thinks he is everything that is good on God’s green earth. I’m sure someone will come along and demand that Obama’s face be carved on Mount Rushmore.

  14. A national treasure we must protect from forces of evil in our badly damaged country.

    February 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    I just watched and heard the most talented woman of our political time make history.Precise,clear,effective and dedicated in her new position as SoS.A star that will unite this troubled world as no one has done before her.There should be no doubt in anyones mind as to the reason she chose to accept this awesome responsibility to bring the world together and solve its mounting problems.A flawless presentation to an anxious world craving leadership and peace.Her team will serve her well

    Barack Hussein Obama WHO?
    Condoleezza Rice WHO?
    US Congress WHO?

    By ABM90 We do have Hillary to turn to.Fight for her.The Media
    is our enemy and will continue to pull the strings for their chosen one.

  15. “Basically, Mr Geithner shot his mouth off about the fact that he and BHO “knew” that the Chinese were manipulating their currency during the senate hearings for naming him secretary. Hillary then had to make one of her diplomatic statements to mollify the Chinese and fix his stupid undiplomatic statement.”


    Thanks Emjay. I predict Hillary will have to clean up after the lot of them more and more as time goes on.

  16. Solana: Clinton and Lavrov to meet next month


    WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S.-Russian relations are looking up.

    That’s the view of the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Javier Solana (hah-vee-EHR’ soh-LAHN’-ah).

    Solana says Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will meet next month with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (SEHR’-gay LAHV’-rahf) to look for ways of improving cooperation.

    Recent disagreements have involved missile defense, NATO expansion and Moscow’s invasion of Georgia.

    Solana met with Clinton in Washington on Thursday and was in Moscow earlier in the week. Solana says Vice President Joe Biden’s recent comment about hitting the reset button on relations with Russia was well received in Moscow.

    There’s no word yet from the U.S. on a Clinton-Lavrov meeting. But Solana says it will be in Geneva following a NATO foreign ministers’ meeting early in March.


  17. From WorldNetDaily

    ‘Sanctions’ sought in eligibility case
    President’s attorneys file motion demanding birth, college records be withheld from public

    ———————————————————–Posted: February 13, 2009
    12:15 am Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions” against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.

    The suggestion came in an exchange of e-mails and documents in a case brought by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others in California. The case originally sought to have the state’s electors ordered to withhold their votes for Obama until his eligibility was established. Since Obama’s inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of his records.
    In the case, handled largely by Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation, records were subpoenaed documenting Obama’s attendance at Occidental College.
    The lawyer for the college, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, urgently contacted Fredric D. Woocher of Strumwasser & Woocher.
    “This firm is counsel to Occidental College. The College is in receipt of the enclosed subpoena that seeks certain information concerning President-Elect Barack Obama,” he wrote via fax. “Inasmuch as the subpoena appears to be valid on its face, the College will have no alternative but to comply with the subpoena absent a court order instructing otherwise.”
    Within hours, Woocher contacted Kreep regarding the issue, telling him, “It will likely not surprise you to hear that President-elect Obama opposes the production of the requested records.
    (Story continues below)
    “In order to avoid the needless expense of our bringing and litigating a Motion to Quash the subpoena, I am writing to ask whether you would be willing to agree voluntarily to cancel or withdraw the subpoena.”
    Woocher warned, “Please be advised, in particular, that in the event we are forced to file a motion to quash and we prevail in that motion, we will seek the full measure of monetary sanctions provided for in the Code of Civil Procedures.”
    Kreep, out of town for a business trip, did not respond immediately, and the motion eventually was filed. It states that the records, which could reveal on what name Obama attended classes at Occidental and whether he attended on scholarship money intended for foreign students, “are of no relevance to this moot litigation.”
    The motion also claims the petitioners failed to serve the subpoena properly.
    Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the “natural-born American” clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 235,000 others and sign up now!
    “The subpoena directed to Occidental College should therefore be quashed. Alternatively, this court should issue an order directing that the deposition of the custodian of records of Occidental College not take place,” the firm working on Obama’s behalf stated.
    “The central issue in this lawsuit … is whether any Respondent had a legal duty to demand proof of natural born citizenship from Democratic Party’s nominee,” the motion said. “None of the documents sought by petitioners could possibly assist in answering this question.”
    The motion then cited a precedent from a case involving a “former law firm client who brought malpractice action against firm claiming unconscionable rates was not entitled to discovery regarding amount paid by law firm to contract staff attorney because such information is irrelevant to unconscionability claim.”
    The case, with Keyes, Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson as plaintiffs, names California Secretary of State Debra Bowen, Barack Hussein Obama, Joe Biden and the state’s electors as defendants.
    “OBAMA has been inaugurated as the president of the United States. However, to properly assume such office, OBAMA must meet the qualifications specified in Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution for the Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a ‘natural born’ citizen,” the amended complaint states.
    “OBAMA has failed to demonstrate that he is a ‘natural born’ citizen. There have been a number of legal challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of non-, lost, or dual citizenship concerning OBAMA. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to his eligibility to serve as President of the United States.
    “To avert a constitutional crisis which would certainly accrue after such an election through laborious legal challenges, this writ seeks to require SOS (Secretary of State) to verify the eligibility of a Presidential candidate prior to the candidate appearing on the California ballot. It is incumbent on the candidates to present the necessary documentation confirming his or her eligibility, but, to date, for this past election, OBAMA has failed to do so,” the complaint continues.
    “An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity,” the case said. “In addition, if OBAMA is not a ‘natural born’ citizen and not eligible for presidency, OBAMA will be subject to the criminal provisions of the California Elections Code, stating, ‘Any person who files or submits for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy knowing that it, or any part of it, has been made falsely, is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both the fine and imprisonment,'” the complaint states.
    WND has reported on multiple legal challenges that have alleged Obama does not meet the “natural born citizen” clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
    Some claim he was not born in Hawaii, as he insists, but in Kenya. Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
    Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
    Several details of Obama’s past have added twists to the question of his eligibility and citizenship, including his family’s move to Indonesia when he was a child and on what nation’s passport he traveled to Pakistan in the ’80s, as well as conflicting reports from Obama’s family about his place of birth.
    In just the last few days, WND has reported on a developing lawsuit by a team of state lawmakers as well as military officers, both of whom would be bound to follow orders from the president and would need to know whether the orders were legitimate.
    WND also reported this week on a separate case that accuses Congress of failing to investigate President Obama’s birthplace before approving the Electoral College vote giving him the presidency, after going through that very investigative process for GOP candidate Sen. John McCain.
    Several of the cases – including those brought by Orly Taitz, Cort Wrotnowski, Leo Donofrio and Philip Berg, already have been discussed in conference at the U.S. Supreme Court, which has decided not to hold a hearing on any of the merits.
    Here is a partial listing and status update for several of the cases:
    Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama’s original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg’s latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied.

    Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

    Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut’s secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

    Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public’s support.

    Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama’s vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

    Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama’s citizenship. His case was denied.

    In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

    In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama’s citizenship. The case was denied.

    In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama’s birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia’s secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

    California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.
    In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama’s eligibility include:

    In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

    In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

    In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

    In Washington, L. Charles vs. Obama.

    In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.
    WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama’s birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

    The governor’s office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii, which the state’s procedures allowed at the time?

  18. Mrs. Smith and all, what items need to be on the scorecard? Please give some suggestions and I will take it from there.

  19. White House questioned about its questions

    By BEN FELLER – 55 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — With the collapse of another Cabinet nomination, the White House is being pressed for answers — about its questions.

    Reporters on Friday quizzed White House press secretary Robert Gibbs on what, if anything, the Obama administration plans to do differently in screening potential Cabinet members. Three have withdrawn their nominations for various reasons, and President Barack Obama has been in office less than a month.

    The theme kept popping up the day after Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., abruptly scrapped his nomination to be Commerce secretary, saying he had made a mistake and that he had “irresolvable conflicts” with the policies of the Democratic president. Gregg had welcomed his nomination about a week earlier.

    Gibbs was asked: What’s going on here? Do White House lawyers need to get more deeply involved? Do they need to ask more questions?

    The press secretary turned the question around on the White House media.

    “You guys ask questions for a living,” Gibbs said. “What might we pose? ‘Are you likely within a seven-day period to come to a different conclusion than the one in which you’re giving the president?'”

    A reporter offered this idea instead for potential Republican Cabinet nominees: “Are you aware the president’s a Democrat?”

    That prompted some laughter in the briefing room.

    In that lighter spirit, Gibbs joked that he’d take the 10 best questions he gets from reporters and pass them on to the White House lawyers.

  20. Is the Obama White House already in trouble?

    It’s been a tough 10 days in the life of the 4-week-old Obama White House.
    Tom Daschle has to withdraw as the president’s pick for secretary of Health and Human Services for failing to pay more than $120,000 in taxes.

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who managed to squeeze through confirmation hearings despite his own tax problems, bombs in laying out the president’s new Wall Street rescue plan. The street tanks.

    Sen. Judd Gregg, the independent-minded Republican senator from New Hampshire (which kind of describes the whole state) decides at the last minute that he doesn’t want to be President Obama’s secretary of Commerce after all. He cites his discomfort with Obama fiscal policies — and, as the Ticket reported earlier, political battles over the 2010 Census. All this after New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Obama’s first choice, had already pulled out of consideration because of an ethics probe.

    Just as stunning, Obama lauds Caterpillar CEO Jim Owens for saying that if Congress passes his $789-billion stimulus package, Caterpillar will be able to hire back some of the 22,000 workers his company recently laid off. Then Owens says, Not so fast, maybe not. And this after Obama invited him on Air Force One en route to the company’s plant in East Peoria!

    So where’s the White House advance team? The vetting team? Critics are piling on. Morning Joe Scarborough said on MSNBC this morning that if his congressional staff had messed up this badly, he’d have fired them. The Wall Street Journal called Gregg’s announcement “a fresh embarrassment for an administration rocked by a number of setbacks … two days after a bank rescue plan was widely panned by financial markets and lawmakers from both parties.”

    As CBS Evening News’ Bob Schieffer put it:

    To have these incidents happening over and over again, this does not help this administration’s credibility. There’s no other way you can say it.

    For his part, Obama was gracious about the Gregg setback. As our friends at The Swamp noted, he joked with a crowd in Springfield, Ill., about whether Abraham Lincoln had also had trouble finding a Commerce secretary.

  21. Hope this helps a bit…………..

    Why This Recession Seems Worse Than ’70s and ’80s

    * Friday February 13, 2009, 11:37 am EST

    If you think this recession is the worst since World War II, chances are you weren’t born or working during the downturns of the 1970s and ’80s, you’re listening to President Obama too much or you’re a white-collar worker in financial services.

    If all three are true, you may even think we’re on the verge of another Great Depression.

    At this point, the only thing that may be true is your age and employment status.

    “The current situation has nothing in common with the Great Depression,” says economist Steve Hanke of the Cato Institute and Johns Hopkins University. “The sooner they [in Washington] stop spinning the bad news story and say nothing, the sooner we’ll be more confident.”

    Hanke is not alone in dismissing what appears to be a potent cocktail of misinformation and doom and gloom, wherein the current recession-now in its 13th month-is already considered worse than the 16-month ones of 1973-1975 and 1980-1982.

    “We were pretty scared in ’82; things looked horrible for awhile,” says Bob Stovall of Wood Asset management and a 55-year veteran of the securities business. “I don’t think you can say it’s worse than then; its different. You have changed the landscape but you did that in the Midwest when you forced a lot of rust-belt companies to the wall.”

    “This time it’s financial firms going out of business, instead of manufacturing ones, and the jobs are going with them,” explains Stovall.

    “I do think that’s part of it,” says Robert Brusca, chief economist at Fact & Opinion Economics, saying that. “They’re the ones making the pronouncements. People in the financial sector are getting crushed.”

    They’re not the only ones selling doom and gloom, though.

    “I don’t remember a president talking down the economy as much as President Obama,” says economist Chris Rupkey of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi. “The economy is very psychological. There’s a herd instinct.”

    That herd instinct kicked into overdrive after the sudden collapse of Lehman Brothers, when many say the economy fell off a cliff and a classical cyclical downturn merged with a nasty one-of-kind credit crunch. So yes, economists agree things are bad, but they need to be put into perspective.


    At this point, the current recession is worse than those of the ’70s and ’80s by only one statistical yardstick, and that’s the unusually quick ascent in the jobless rate-from 4.4 percent in March 2007 to 7.6 percent in January 2008.

    “People are reacting so adversely to this is because the job market has become so weak,” explains Brusca.

    But even though the sharp decline in payrolls over the past three months has been stunning, it is not as bad on a percentage basis as one period in 1974-1975, according to David Resler, chief economist at Nomura International. Resler says the economy would have to lose some 767,000 jobs a month over a three-month period from the current employment level to match that miserable performance.

    During the 1973-1975 and 1980-1982 periods the unemployment rate almost doubled (4.6-9.0 percent, 5.6-10.8 percent, respectively), which means a peak of about 8.6-8.8 percent this time around. In further contrast, during a ten-month stretch in 1983-1983, the jobless rate was above 10-percent.

    Nevertheless, that’s nothing compared to the Great Depression when the unemployment rate went from 3 percent to almost 25 percent in four years and national income was halved, notes Hanke in a recent column.


    Though it may be little consolation for the millions of unemployed, GDP is considered by economists to be the best and broadest gauge of a recession.

    That may seem also peculiar since the economy actually grew in the first two quarters of this recession, but some of that had to do with the Federal Reserve’s early and aggressive interest rate cutting and the federal government’s first stimulus plan which quickly put money into people’s pockets.

    Given that backdrop, GDP contraction thus far has been modest. It’s down 1.1 percent vs. 3.1 percent in the 1970s period, says Chris Rupkey.

    And though the economy shrunk at a 3.8 percent annualized rate in the fourth quarter of 2008 and is expected to decline another 4.0-6.0 percent in the first quarter of 2009, imagine the reaction today to the 7.8 percent plunge in the second quarter of 1980 or consecutive swoons of 4.9 percent and 6.4 percent in 1981-1982.

    “Half of the workforce until now hadn’t seen more than 16 months of recession-total,” quips Resler. The past two short (eight months) and relatively shallow.

    During the 1990-1991 recession, the deepest quarterly GDP decline was 3.0 percent; in the 2000-2001 one it was 1.4 percent.

    “GDP hasn’t been that weak because the productivity increase is one of the best,” says Brusca. “You get a quarter or two that really knocks the level down,” he adds, and it looks like we’re at that stage now.

    This time other fundamental factors are playing a bigger role than the past.

    “Consumer spending will be bad,” says Resler. “We haven’t three consecutive quarterly declines in consumer spending since the 1950s.” He’s definitely expecting a repeat of that.

    It’s Still Bad

    Comparisons aside, no one is saying the current recession isn’t a painful one, and some see very little reason for optimism.

    “I can’t identify anything than looks good,” says Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic Policy And Research, adding that business investment-which appeared to be holding up-posted its sharpest decline in 50 years in the final quarter of 2008.

    “I’d be shocked if we have growth this year,” says Baker, even though he expects the Obama administration’s stimulus plan to have a sizable economic positive impact.

    So may the words of the President and his advisors, say economists.

    “It’s not surprising that politicians exaggerate this,” says Resler, who predicts “The tone of the message is going to start changing immediately; now that we have the stimulus in hand, you enhance it by saying positive things.”

    Tunnel Thinking

    For all the comparisons with other recessions, exaggerated or not, the most meaningful one may be its duration. It is also the toughest.

    * Economy: Full Coverage

    The consensus is this recession will end sometime between the second half of 2009 and the beginning of 2010. The pessimists say wait till next year-period.

    David Jones, CEO of DMJ Advisors, is among those who see “hints of stability.” By that he means, the rate of decline in areas like retail appear to be slowing.

    “We’ll see the same thing happening on the housing side in the next couple months,” says Jones.

    “I’m just waiting for the shift in people’s expectations,” adds Rupkey.

  22. Short Termer,

    I think we need to make an agreed upon list.

    1.) Obama’s biggest Lie was running for president when he said he wouldn’t and would finish out his Senate term to get more experience.

    And a few more Big Ones off the top of my file:

    “Obama Vows to Stand Up to Corporate Mega-Farm Lobbyists Who Wield Too Much Influence Over Farm Bill”

    “When the farm bill comes up in the Senate, I will be fighting to tell all those agribusiness lobbyists that they won’t be able to count on the multi-million-dollar subsidies they always get because we’re going to put family farmers first,” said Obama.”

    ]course….Obama couldn’t make it to the senate to vote on it after all

    Obama has missed 41% of the Votes this year in Congress..

    Illinois is DEAD LAST in Veterans Health Care! 12/21/2007

    The nerve of this fraud taking money from soldiers when he hasn’t done a Damn thing for them!

  23. # filbertsf Says:
    February 13th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama’s face is requested to be on Mt. Rushmore. I, too, don’t understand where all this adulation is coming from.

    But, my point about making reference to the Kennedy’s is that reportedly Ted got very upset that Hillary left John Kennedy out in her speech concerning civil rights and just snubbed the Kennedy’s name. Well, isn’t that what Obama is doing now? Are they not upset with Obama as well? It doesn’t seem so! I don’t understand why the Kennedys aren’t as upset with Obama as they were with the Clintons?

  24. wbboei Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    Admin: Pelosi has created her own mbo. How nice for her. It may turn out to be a political death warrant in 2010.


    This boasting among the dims and obama are going to be their downfall. What will they do when there is no one else to throw under the bus? Eat their young?

  25. “White House aides say they have concluded that Obama too frequently lost control of the debate and his own image during the stimulus battle.”


    Ya think? How many strikes before he is out for good?

  26. Mrs. Smith Says:
    February 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    re-post from last thread regarding Today’s Hillary’s LIVE Asian Conference:
    Mrs. Smith,

    ‘Your good opinion’, as Jane Austen would say, is seconded by the BBS…the entire network are fans, and went on and on about the Asian Society presentation during their 9 pm broadcast tonight.

    I am a tough old bird, so do not understand why I find myself awestruck during, and weeping after every one of these regular tours ‘d force she is delivering to her audiences at home and overseas.


    One interesting footnote to the Gregg mess: Both Gregg and Harry Reid’s office seem to have contradicted Robert Gibbs’ account of the process, under which Gregg “had approached the White House” for the job.

    Gregg told CNBC, “My own perception was that there was an intermediary who came to me and said would you be interested in doing this and I said I would listen.”

    And Reid spokesman Jim Manley said Reid suggested Gregg.

  28. Clinton to attend Gaza conference in Cairo: Egypt


    WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will attend an international donors conference next month in Cairo aimed at raising money to rebuild Gaza after Israel’s recent military operations against Palestinian militants there, a senior Egyptian official said.

    After meeting with Clinton at the State Department, Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit told reporters he had invited the secretary to the March 2 meeting and that she had accepted. Department spokesman Robert Wood said Clinton would like to attend but that details have not yet been finalized. Earlier, the department said the U.S. would be represented at a high level.

    “The secretary will be coming to Cairo on the second of March,” Aboul Gheit said. “We expect lots of commitments from everybody, lots of commitments for reconstruction.”

    There has not yet been any indication of how much the United States might pledge at the conference, but since Israel’s 22-day incursion into Gaza began in late December, it has contributed nearly $60 million in emergency assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, including $55 million to the U.N. and the International Committee of the Red Cross for work they do in the territory.

    “The needs of Gaza’s Palestinians remain acute,” the State Department said in a statement Thursday. “The U.S. government will continue to monitor the situation to judge what additional contributions would be the most helpful.”

    Aboul Gheit said he was pleased with the Obama administration’s early stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, particularly its appointment of former Sen. George Mitchell to be a special envoy for the peace process.

    “They understand very well this question and they know that they will have to exert pressure on two sides to achieve the objective of peace,” he said, adding that he believed the administration would place more pressure on Israel to halt the construction of Jewish settlements in occupied Palestinian areas.

    “They say they understand the problem of settlement activity and that it must come to an end,” Aboul Gheit said. He declined to comment on prospects for the peace process in the wake of Israel’s election that may result in a government less willing to engage in peace talks than its predecessor.

    “Let’s rebuild and reconstruct Gaza through the conference … and then let’s see what George Mitchell, as well as Hillary Clinton, as well as the administration will do in relation to the peace process,” he said.

  29. Clinton Says U.S. Willing to ‘Normalize’ Ties With North Korea

    By Indira A.R. Lakshmanan and Bill Varner

    Feb. 13 (Bloomberg) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. is willing to “normalize” relations with North Korea in the event the communist regime completely and verifiably ends its nuclear arms program.

    “If North Korea is genuinely prepared to completely and verifiably eliminate its nuclear program the Obama administration will be ready to normalize our bilateral relations,” Clinton said in a speech to the Asia Society in New York. She added that the U.S. would also be willing to offer further energy and humanitarian assistance to North Korea.

    In her first major policy address as America’s top diplomat, Clinton said she would use her first foreign trip to strengthen engagement with East Asia, seeking to collaborate with Japan, China, South Korea and Indonesia on clean energy, security, nuclear non-proliferation and trade.

    “I leave for Asia ready to deliver a message about America’s desire for more rigorous and persistent commitment and engagement,” Clinton said in a 24-minute speech. “We are committed to a foreign policy that is neither compulsive nor ideological.”

    Clinton said she would try to get the six-party talks aimed at persuading North Korea to shut down its nuclear weapons program — which include China, South Korea, Russia and Japan — back “on track.” The negotiations ground to a halt last year when North Korean officials refused to sign an agreement on steps to verify the extent of the nuclear program.

    “We hope that North Korea will refrain from provocative actions and words at this time,” she said.

    Clinton, 61, will visit Tokyo, Jakarta, Seoul and Beijing in a weeklong trip set to begin on Feb. 15. She will be accompanied on her trip by President Barack Obama’s senior Asia official at the National Security Council, Jeffrey Bader, and Christopher Hill, the top U.S. negotiator on North Korea since 2005.

    Clinton will reassure allies of America’s security commitment at a time of threatening North Korean rhetoric, signal support for Indonesia — the largest Muslim democracy — and explore cooperation with Chinese leaders, advisers say. There is “fertile ground for cooperation” with Indonesia, Clinton said today.

    With policies under review and top advisers not yet in place, the seven-day trip’s greatest value will be largely symbolic. A sign of how much times have changed is that Clinton included China in her first itinerary, rather than the Middle East and Afghanistan, where she has sent top envoys. Her husband, former President Bill Clinton, didn’t visit Beijing until his sixth year in office.

    The U.S. can benefit from “China on the rise,” Clinton said today, adding that she is committed to promoting a “positive relationship” with China. “We believe the U.S. and China can benefit from and contribute to each other’s successes,” she said.

    “She has sent out very positive signals,” Zhang Yesui, China’s ambassador to the United Nations said after hearing Clinton’s speech. “She wants to listen, to discuss, to have a dialogue and cooperation. This message will be well received.” Zhang said Clinton’s attitude toward Asia represented a welcome change from former President George W. Bush’s administration.

    The U.S. will take steps to regulate its economy to make free markets work and must show it has taken steps “to clean up” its “own house” and has learned the lessons of the U.S. financial crisis, Clinton said, while answering questions following her speech. The U.S. should “step up to our responsibilities” with regard to energy efficiency and climate change, she said, adding that the American private sector can engage China, which has surpassed the U.S. as the largest source of carbon emissions, with technology transfers to promote clean energy and slow global warming.

    Clinton said she hopes the U.S. stimulus plan designed to help repair the economy through tax cuts for businesses and families and a half-trillion dollars in federal spending will boost basic scientific research on climate change and spur growth.

    Without directly mentioning it, Clinton touched on the sensitive issue of a free trade agreement with South Korea, signed by the Bush administration and sent to Congress, which Obama opposed during his presidential campaign.

    The U.S., which is South Korea’s second-largest export market, should work with its ally to expand trade in a way that benefits both sides, the U.S. secretary of state said.

  30. Since I am neither an economist, a constitutional law professor or a sureshot outside the free throw line all I can say with any degree of confidence is that we have a problem, a series of bubbles have burst and the task before us is to put this Humpty Dumpty of a world economy back together again without subjecting our county to the g-forces of the busienss cyle or engendering hyperinflation in a misguided effort to create a soft landing. If we look behind the rhetoric to what is being said privately, it becomes increasingly clear that this is a systemic problem and the answer will require a high degree of cooperation among nations which Hillary is working on while cleaning up the mistakes of others.

    This multi lateral negotiation to confirm or redefine the groundrules of the world economy will pit those like Soros who favor the elimination of national soverignty in favor of a world economic model against those who believe in economic nationalism. I fully expect that the press will label what has occurred in the past 24 hours as a victory for Obama. But as the Republican aid cited above notes it a pyhric one at best.
    What it really is is a bet that this approach as opposed to all others will work, without the cover of bi partisan support. That was a mistake. Pelosi then the further mistake of laying down ambitious quantifiable criteria for success or failure. In these uncertain times that is a shot in the dark. Remember last year big business posted a net loss of 184,000 jobs and all the job growth came from small businesses. How will this stimulus bill help them?

    has happened in the last 24 hours is Obama has placed his marbles on one particular approach, and Pelosi has provided a scorecard for success or failure. It is

  31. Clinton said she hopes the U.S. stimulus plan designed to help repair the economy through tax cuts for businesses and families and a half-trillion dollars in federal spending will boost basic scientific research on climate change and spur growth.
    We all “hope” for that. Obama on the other hand has guaranteed it. And why not? Why just yesterday the ceo of catapiller told that if this stimulus plan goes through he will start rehiring some of the 22,000 “folks” he has had to layoff as will other major employers. The only problem of course is that wasnt what he told him–he said in honesty and in truth the have to be more layoffs and conditions generally would have to improve before he could start recalling laid off people. If you look at the plan Hillary proposed in the primary it does not look anything like this.

  32. Jan–It is great to see that Hillary is getting great press coverage throughout the world. It is better still to see Big media unable to stop it through their customary prevarication. But this has not been for lackof effort. First it was their false meme about the conflict of interest on CGI. Second, it was the false meme about her vanishing influence. Their problem is none of it works. They can no longer control. twist and distort the message as they did during the primary. They should abandon this mindless quest and devote more time to their gregorian chant for obama. The statement assumes however that they have a mind to begin with.

  33. with hillary’s first venture over-seas as SOS, i am reminded of a story during the primary season. part of our gotv activities involved a visit from a congressman from MA. he spoke of an experience while visiting the continent of africa. he said in so many words, “no matter where i visited, the first thing people would ask me is “do you know hillary?”

    kind of says it all.

  34. wbboei Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
    Jan–It is great to see that Hillary is getting great press coverage throughout the world.


    I love searching for positive articles about Hillary. I love also that she is working so hard while the “boss” is floundering.

  35. Taipan Daily: Bank Rant Redux – Tim Geithner Is an Absolute Disgrace
    by Justice Litle, Editorial Director, Taipan Publishing Group

    “Wall Street, I think, is hoping for an easy out on this thing and there is no easy out,” President Obama said in an ABC news interview this week.

    No, Mr. President, YOU are the one hoping for an easy out… and already acting like a lame duck after a scant few weeks in office… with your utterly infuriating refusal to tackle the problem head on and nationalize these damn zombie banks.

    In my Jan. 27 rant, “Fire all the Bankers -and the Shareholders Too,” I outlined what a forceful and decisive President Obama would have said.

    To quote from the piece, this is the gist of what we should have heard from the Obama administration (in slightly more dignified tones of course):

    Okay, we’re done screwing around. No more of this drip, drip bailout funding for drips. The U.S. taxpayer already owns these skank-a-riffic banks – they’d already be zeroes if not for our backstops – so now we are simply going to formalize that fact…

    But did we get anything like that? No. Instead we got an awful, sound-bite-filled “plan to make a plan at some point in future” that cast far more doubt than light on the whole stupid exercise.

    In its excuse for a defense, the White House keeps whining about how the situation is “complicated.” The situation is only complicated, Mr. President, because your team refuses to make the clear choice and nationalize.

    Check out this graphic from the Econompicdata blog to see how ludicrous this whole fiasco is.

    Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner wants to throw $500 billion more at these zombie banks – for starters – when the combined market cap of the big four is less than half that sum (and shrinking further as I write).

    And to add insult to injury, that combined market cap would have long ago hit ZERO if not for the implied expectations of a bailout in the first place!

    So let’s recap. In any type of free marketplace, these rotten zombie banks would already be zeroes – failed under the weight of their own folly. They only breathe on because we have them in the government version of an iron lung.

    And now the plan is to throw hundreds of billions more at the problem, in a way that will admittedly do next to nothing to solve the problem, because it’s “complicated”… all just to avoid use of the “N” word (nationalization).

    Look, I’m no Marxist. I don’t yearn for a grand socialist solution. But this half-in, half-out approach to our rotten bank problem is absolutely idiotic. It’s the worst of all worlds. It’s expensive as hell, it wastes time, and it isn’t working.

    And we’ve gotten to this place because the Obama administration is afraid to do the hard thing.

    Tim Geithner Is a Shill and a Disgrace

    Oh, and we may also have gotten to this place because our Treasury Secretary still thinks he is president of the New York Fed (Geithner’s old job).

    As head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Mr. Geithner essentially acted in the best interest of the banks. The banks were his top clients, you might say. Their interests were his interests. Their peace of mind was his peace of mind.

    Now that he is Treasury Secretary, the banks are no longer Mr. Geithner’s clients – American taxpayers are – but Mr. Geithner is sure as hell still acting as if his loyalties haven’t changed. This excerpt from a New York Times piece earlier this week made me furious:

    In the end, Mr. Geithner largely prevailed in opposing tougher conditions on financial institutions that were sought by presidential aides, including David Axelrod, a senior adviser to the president, according to administration and Congressional officials.

    Mr. Geithner… successfully fought against more severe limits on executive pay for companies receiving government aid.

    He resisted those who wanted to dictate how banks would spend their rescue money. And he prevailed over top administration aides who wanted to replace bank executives and wipe out shareholders at institutions receiving aid.

    Can you believe that garbage? Geithner, this dyed-in-the-wool product of Wall Street, who will no doubt go back to a cushy gig on Wall Street when his stint in Washington is done, is willing to put our country’s recovery at risk in order to please his true masters.

    This jerk would rather bend himself into a contortionist pretzel than consider doing anything that would displease his pin-striped pals. We saw the evidence of this on Tuesday, with the “complicated” plan-that-is-no-plan-style bailout designed to leave all shareholders and executives intact.

    How many more foxes do we have to let into the henhouse? Didn’t we already try this with our last Treasury Secretary – an ex-head of Goldman Sachs? We were supposed to be enjoying CHANGE by now… so WHY is Team Obama letting itself get rolled like this? (Don’t answer; it’s a rhetorical question.)

    Later in the same NYT piece, David Axelrod (Obama’s personal Karl Rove) played nice and said even though he disagreed at first, he was “ultimately satisfied” with the Geithner-tilted outcome.

    I highly doubt it. Axelrod’s about-face just sounds like an extension of the Obama camp’s natural campaign discipline. You have your knock-down-drag-out fights behind the scenes, but when a public decision is made, everyone comes together in support of it.

    In reality, I bet Axelrod privately wants to ring Geithner’s neck right about now… as well he should. Geithner is putting the boss’ whole presidency in jeopardy.

    Still Not Serious

    President Obama’s “floating above the fray” attitude looked good during the campaign. But now, as Mr. Obama lets morally compromised team members make a giant hash of things, in service to a hidden agenda that stinks to high heaven no less, his detachment is starting to smell like naïveté… or incompetence.

    Martin Wolf, respected economics commentator of the Financial Times, agrees. You may take me as a tainted vessel, given my propensity to lose my cool at times – but consider what the measured and sober Mr. Wolf has to say:

    What is needed? The answer is: focus and ferocity. If Mr. Obama does not fix this crisis, all he hopes from his presidency will be lost. If he does, he can reshape the agenda. Hoping for the best is foolish. He should expect the worst and act accordingly.

    Yet hoping for the best is what one sees in the stimulus programme and – so far as I can judge from Tuesday’s sketchy announcement by Tim Geithner, Treasury secretary – also in the new plans for fixing the banking system. I commented on the former last week. I would merely add that it is extraordinary that a popular new president, confronting a once-in-80-years’ economic crisis, has let Congress shape the outcome.

    The banking programme seems to be yet another child of the failed interventions of the past one and a half years: optimistic and indecisive. If this “progeny of the troubled asset relief programme” fails, Mr. Obama’s credibility will be ruined. Now is the time for action that seems close to certain to resolve the problem; this, however, does not seem to be it.

    If Volcker Quits, We’re in Trouble

    What’s truly maddening is that it didn’t have to be this way. Or maybe it did, who knows… the only thing that’s clear, for now, is that the cynics have been proven right with a vengeance thus far.

    Instead of clear-eyed assessments and bold action, we get foot-dragging and back scratching. Instead of tough decisions, we get “complications” and excuses. And instead of gravitas from the hill, we get meatheads like Senator Chuck Schumer smirking that the American people “really don’t care” about pork.

    The only Washingtonian I still have a modicum of respect for at this point is Paul Volcker – the tough-minded ex-central banker who broke the back of inflation in the early 80s and currently serves as an advisor of sorts to the President.

    Volcker may be the one serious guy left with a connection to the White House. He’s the canary in the coal mine… if he quits in disgust, look out below.

    Warm Regards,

  36. janH

    hillary is so loved and respected around the world. it is shameful the way she is treated in her own country. unfortunately we’ll have to keep “searching” for positive articles about her travels over-seas knowing we won’t be able to rely on our own msm to report anything but vague snippets here and there.

  37. wbboei Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
    Taipan Daily: Bank Rant Redux – Tim Geithner Is an Absolute Disgrace


    LOL…I love every single word of that rant!

  38. OMG! The ENC has Valentine e-cards that you can send out with dim photos on them, i.e. obama, pelosi, etc…

    LOL…click on the pictures and read the messages…

  39. LOL…I love every single word of that rant!
    So do I Jan.

    As I reflect back on the debacle of September 15, when financial insiders moved their money in anticipation of the precipitous drop, you have to assume that big media knew about this and chose not to inform the public. Shortly thereafter ordinary people lost 50% of their life savings. If those time lines are accurate, then isnt this yet another example of the failure of big media and the damage they have done to our county. If they try to tell us they did not want to start a panic, my question to them would have to be when has that alleged concern ever stopped you from spreading gloom and doom in the past? And isnt that really what you do for a living?

  40. Pelosi will be the biggest loser followed by Reid….Obama will still pretty much get a pass as the MSM will blame Bush much like the right wing nut jobs blamed Bill for everything over the last 8 yrs….Hillary may very well come out the big winner as by 2016 she will be the most qualified candidate ever to run for office….Age will be an issue, but she will be a very young 69…..

  41. I tried to watch a bit of C-span, but the dims were so self-congratulatory, I had to change the station.

    BTW, I love the rant above. At least, some of us have clear eyes and critical thinking skills.

  42. Pelosi will be the biggest loser followed by Reid….Obama will still pretty much get a pass as the MSM will blame Bush much like the right wing nut jobs blamed Bill for everything over the last 8 yrs….Hillary may very well come out the big winner as by 2016 she will be the most qualified candidate ever to run for office….Age will be an issue, but she will be a very young 69…..
    Then you see no hope for 2012?

  43. # Paula Says:
    February 13th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Emjay, What’s the BBS?
    Comes from a short period when the BBC, having been nicknamed the Beeb, Auntie Beeb and The Beast almost became privatized, to be named the British Broadcasting Services…radio became 4-5 or more channels, not counting the Worldwide, TV went to 3 channels for a brief shining moment, They were thinking about moving everything to Glasgow, selling Broadcast House, etc.

    Someone finally got a grip and though broadcasts are done from almost everywhere in Britain, I think Broadcast House is still “home” though it seems to me most letters and email and telecoms are done in Glasgow now. Don.t know for sure because I have been out of all that for 2 decades now.

  44. Paula

    Should also have mentioned the “British Buxx Shxt”
    Corporation…familiar in Clapton South 30 years ago.

  45. I do not think 2016 is possible myself. Considerations of age, generational transition and the turn of the political cycle militate against it. Also by then the Republicans will have a revised agenda, a platform geared to changing demograghics and a ground game.

    I think the last shot at brass ring is 2012. The sustained argument I have been trying to make is that he promised hope and change, he promoted the stimulus bill as his own, it did not work , valuable time and money were squandered , people are worse off than they were at the inception of his presidencyand the novelty will be gone. In that case I do not think the swing voters he need will hang with him.

    But it is hard to see it now based on what we have been through.

  46. wbboei, There’s no way Hillary will challenge Obama in 2012.
    If you are right then its the end of the trail. I just cannot see 2016 Paula.

    But think about what would happen in 2012 if he is way down in the polls, and our economy is in shambles and unemployment is 15%. And what if people in the party were to draft her. And remember what Kreskin said.

  47. Paula: to illustrate how things can change in these uncertain times, I have a newspaper article from a few months back where Hillary says in the title: The Senate Is The Home For Me. The bottom line is power is like water it seeks its own channel and there is no one who can see over this horizon.

  48. If she runs against him in 2012 it would have to be the result of his policies having been so disastrous that she would have the “go ahead” from within the party to challenge an incumbent President….seems unlikely imo, but we can still hope. A more likely scenario is BO is caught up in so much corruption, he will stand no chance in 2012 and Hillary would “rescue” the party.

  49. If she runs against him in 2012 it would have to be the result of his policies having been so disastrous that she would have the “go ahead” from within the party to challenge an incumbent President….seems unlikely imo, but we can still hope. A more likely scenario is BO is caught up in so much corruption, he will stand no chance in 2012 and Hillary would “rescue” the party.
    Exactly right. These are such uncertain times that these scenarios are possible. In normal times I would agree with Paula that there is no way.

  50. Admin & All,

    Hi. Not sure if you Admin quoted from this one the other day or not. From Bill Greider @ The Nation:

    The Social Security fight could become a defining test for “new politics” in the Obama era. Will Americans at large step up and make themselves heard, not to attack Obama but to protect his presidency from the political forces aligned with Wall Street interests? This fight can be won if people everywhere raise a mighty din–hands off our Social Security money!–and do it now, before the deal gains momentum. Popular outrage can overwhelm the insiders and put members of Congress on notice: a vote to gut Social Security will kill your career. By organizing and agitating, people blocked Bush’s attempt to privatize Social Security. Imagine if he had succeeded–their retirement money would have disappeared in the collapsing stock market.


    That moment of reckoning is approaching. Uncle Sam owes these trillions to Social Security retirees and has to pay it back or look like just another deadbeat. That risk is the only “crisis” facing Social Security. It is the real reason powerful interests are so anxious to cut benefits. Social Security is not broke–not even close. It can sustain its obligations for roughly forty years, according to the Congressional Budget Office, even if nothing is changed. Even reports by the system’s conservative trustees say it has no problem until 2041 (that report is signed by former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, the guy who bailed out the bankers). During the coming decade, however, the system will need to start drawing on its reserve surpluses to pay for benefits as boomers retire in greater numbers.

  51. This may sound like I’m a traitor, but I honestly do not want Hillary to run for president again. I want her to be doing what she is now and doing it well. I don’t want her being crucified by an unholy media and an even unholier dnc. I can’t imagine how many more knives in her back, smear tactics, lies, twisted history she would be subject to if she tried this again.

  52. As Admin notes, and as we must all remember, some 300 congresspeople had so little respect for the nearly 200 colleagues who insisted that this bill would not work, and so little independence of thought, that they voted for a bill they hadn’t read!!

    They then went out and told us it would work.

    They voted before anyone in the public could read it and give their ideas or objections and before they could analyze any of it much less see if anyone had thrown in a bridge to nowhere or a personal charity tax-free award.

    This is the change we are supposed to believe in — 1000 pages costing 1 trillion dollars that our representatives couldn’t and didn’t read. How many dems voted no under protest? The rest didn’t do what we pay them for.

    Do not forget this. They voted to spend 1 trillion dollars without knowing how much on what.

  53. JanH Says:

    February 13th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
    This may sound like I’m a traitor, but I honestly do not want Hillary to run for president again.
    I certainly don’t think you’re a traitor, and None of us want Hillary to be hurt again…BUT…so much can, and will happen in the next few years…and if the media turns on BO…which it could, there are indications, and rumblings
    already…his EGO would not allow him to run again…imo, he could never take the abuse that Bush took. Aside from the actual lack of, or poor governing, there’s still Rezko and Blago and the BC…when the universe starts its work…his whole ‘made up life’ could come tumbling down!!! We can still hope, can’t we?

  54. “We can still hope, can’t we?”


    My fervent hope is that he will be impeached and leave the White House with the rest of his dim pals in disgrace. I think Hillary would make an amazing president but the system is so corrupt I just don’t see it happening.

  55. Congress Passes $787B Stimulus Bill, Sending It to Obama for Signature
    The bill passed in the Senate with 60 votes after the House approved the measure earlier in the day by a vote of 246-183

    well they passed it and now its on its way to the crrok to sign.

    passed on friday the 13th what a sad day for america…

    The bill passed the Senate late Friday night with a vote of 60-38 after Democratic leadership held the vote open for several hours to allow one member, Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown, to return to Washington to cast the deciding vote. He had flown back from Ohio, where his mother died earlier in the week.

  56. While the Obamabots and BHO himself like to heap symbolism on signing this catastrophic anarchy into law on President’s Day, I remain focused on the House and Senate voting the measure ahead on Friday the Thirteenth. Sort of like gleaning into the eyes of a voodoo doll, ya know? Maybe next month, on another Friday the Thirteenth – something equally as disastrous for his partisan bunch of yahoos will emerge. Like they say – a month can be a year in political time. Did somewone say straight pin?

  57. jeleanoro Says:
    if the media turns on BO…which it could, there are indications, and rumblings


    Ftm, why did the media finally turn on Bush? They supported him in 2000 and 2004.

  58. My fervent hope is that he will be impeached and leave the White House with the rest of his dim pals in disgrace. I think Hillary would make an amazing president but the system is so corrupt I just don’t see it happening.
    Jan- that is not enough for me. As I see it we are working for Hillary and the country here. Maybe its all in my head but that is what I believe.

    If the sole pupose of this execise is to bring him down with no assurance that he will be replaced with someone better then it could simply perpetuate Bush Obama for another eight years–a hollow victory at best.

    That very logic forces me to think about what we are doing here as helping to lay the groundwork for her to run again if the opportunity materializes. Jbstones has identified the scearios in which that could well happen.

    By then the credibility of big media will be in the tank. If you have read the book Animal Farm, then you may recall the charater Squeeler The Pig who is propagandist for Napoleon. There is no Squeeler if there is no Napoleon.

  59. Ftm, why did the media finally turn on Bush? They supported him in 2000 and 2004
    When the policies he advocated ceased working, when his obstinacy became apparent, when the truth about him could no longer be denied they turned hard against him. I doubt the support would have lasted as long as it did but for the 9/11 attack.

  60. Bill Greider @ The Nation:

    The Social Security fight could become a defining test for “new politics” in the Obama era. Will Americans at large step up and make themselves heard, not to attack Obama but to protect his presidency from the political forces aligned with Wall Street interests?

    This guy is a real dumb bot. I think we have found Squeeler the Pig.

    The American People must rally to the streets” . . . to protect his presidency from the political forces who are aligned with Wall Street” who want to destroy social security???????

    Evidently this idiot is too blind to see that the political forces who want to destroy social security are the same ones who put him in office. There is no need to protect him from those interests. They already own him and pull his strings. But there is a compelling need to protect the American People from the attack on social security which Obama will pursue on behalf of those Wall Street interests.

    So Squeeler Krieder put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  61. Grieder (nee Krieder) does not understand the most basic stuff such as the fact that the Secretary of Treasrey is a Wall Street guy so who is kindding who. On the other hand perhaps this is why he is working for the Nation. Schmarmy people.

  62. Most people undertand the first law of war is to figure out who your real enemy is. You dont need Sun-Tzu to tell you that. But with Grieder who writes for The Nation, this law is ambigious at best. And that is because he is more interested in promoting this schmarmy story that Obama is Orthello surrounded by traitors and thieves rather than protecting social security.

  63. Blue, Greider has inadvertently exposed the fault line in the Obama coalition:

    1. Geider exhorts all bots to take to the streets to help Obama protect social security from those evil Wall Street bunnies who want to attack social security on the assumption he wants to preserve it.

    2. However, unbeknownst to them Obama has secretly agreed to collaborate with those bunnies in their plan to attack social security.

    3. Whereupon they hit the streets and when they do they tell Obama be strong and the Wall Street bunnies say roll over and then he will be forced to choose who he will betray: his supporters or his handlers?

  64. 3. Whereupon they hit the streets and when they do they tell Obama be strong and the Wall Street bunnies say roll over and then he will be forced to choose who he will betray: his supporters or his handlers


    IN which case, we should be helpfully holdilng his feet to the fire … as Admin said long ago.

  65. Jan: I firmly believe that our Hillary cand stand tall and strong aginst anything that is thrown on her no matter the sources.None of us can know just how supporters she has out there at this time.She is ready to be called upon to assume the leadership of this country when she is called.There are so many weekkneed silent admirers that fear the race card and resistance from family friends and fellow workers.Unlike many other nations,we are cowering afraid and too busy to be active in our nations business.We have a lot to do if we want to survive.The garbage called the Media made no mention of Hillarys address to the Asia Society yesterday.I swelled with pride,tears and admiration as I watched and listened to our “Miracle Worker”.

    By ABM90 There is true hope with Hillary.There is subversion with the stealth pres. Barrack Hussrin Obama.

  66. Jan- that is not enough for me. As I see it we are working for Hillary and the country here. Maybe its all in my head but that is what I believe.



    One side of my brain agrees 100% with you. The other side, the tired and overwhelmed side, hesitates.

    To be honest, I have learned so much from you, Admin, and all the others here. I am disgusted by the behaviors/actions this past election brought out in some people, i.e. the bots, the libs, obama, and the media. It really opened my eyes. I would think financing and age would be the main question marks.

    I’m not sure what the answer is and of course if Hillary chose to run again I would be behind her 100%. For now, I guess the best I can hope for is that the bots, libs, obama, and the media all fall on their faces sooner rather than later.

  67. Blago hit up Burris for cash

    In his third sworn version of events, senator confirms pitch for donations
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    February 14, 2009


    Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s brother solicited U.S. Sen. Roland Burris for up to $10,000 in campaign cash before Blagojevich named Burris to the coveted post — something Burris initially failed to disclose under oath before an Illinois House impeachment panel, records and interviews show.

    Burris acknowledges being hit up for the money in a new affidavit he has sent to the head of the House committee that recommended Blagojevich be removed from office. Burris acknowledges that Blagojevich sought $10,000 in campaign contributions from Burris.

    The affidavit is dated Feb. 5 — three weeks after Burris was sworn in to replace President Obama in the Senate.

    Burris — who did not give money to the Blagojevich campaign fund in response to the previously undisclosed solicitation — provided a copy of the sworn statement to the Chicago Sun-Times Friday in response to questions about his contacts with the Blagojevich camp about fund-raising.

    Burris acknowledged having three conversations with Robert Blagojevich, who headed the Friends of Blagojevich campaign fund — and one of those was likely recorded by the FBI. Burris’ statement offers the third version of events he has given about his discussions concerning the Senate seat, to which Blagojevich appointed him in late December, after Blagojevich was hit with federal corruption charges that included an allegation he tried to sell the Senate appointment.

    Burris said he sent the new statement to House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie (D-Chicago) after he read the transcript of his testimony before the impeachment committee she headed and realized it was incomplete. “There were several facts that I was not given the opportunity to make during my testimony,” Burris said. “I voluntarily submitted an affidavit so everything was transparent.”

    In October and again in November, Burris spoke with Robert Blagojevich, who initially asked him to host a fund-raiser. Burris said he’d get back to him after the election, sources with knowledge of the conversations said. The two later talked again, and Burris again was asked for campaign cash.

    Burris said he refused to contribute and “made it unequivocally clear … that it would be inappropriate and pose a major conflict because I was interested in the Senate vacancy.” A source with knowledge of the exchange said there was some discussion about Burris possibly getting others to give or raise money on his behalf. Not so, according to Burris: “I did not donate or help raise a single dollar for the governor from those conversations and would never consider making a donation through a third party.”

    In all, Burris expressed interest in the Senate seat to five people in Blagojevich’s camp, documents obtained by the Sun-Times show. He disclosed just one of those contacts when asked Jan. 8 by state Rep. James Durkin (R-Western Springs) during the impeachment hearings to name any contact he had with Blagojevich’s people about the seat.

    “I’m very surprised he didn’t make these disclosures,” Durkin said. “I don’t know if Mr. Burris was purposely being evasive during the committee or had selected memory issues.” In a sworn statement filed with the House panel Jan. 5, before he testified, Burris said he had no contact with Blagojevich’s camp about the Senate seat aside from his appointment in late December. In testimony before the committee, he added that he spoke with Lon Monk, Blagojevich’s former chief of staff. In his new affidavit, Burris confirms he also spoke of his interest in the Senate appointment with Blagojevich insiders John Harris, Doug Scofield and John Wyma.

    The discussions with Robert Blagojevich about money came after Burris spoke with those people. Burris had told the House committee he was unaware of any quid pro quo dangled by Blagojevich’s camp.

    Senate Minority Leader Christine Radogno (R-Lemont) said Burris’ new statement regarding his contact with Blagojevich’s emissaries represents a “fatal wound” to a potential 2010 Burris re-election bid. His new account contains “extraordinary detail” Burris should have disclosed to the impeachment panel when he testified and to U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) before being seated, Radogno said.

    “If it turns out this was some sort of attempt to avoid this coming out as part of the appointment process, then he doesn’t deserve to be senator,” Radogno said. “I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven.”

    Currie acknowledged receiving Burris’ letter but said she was unfamiliar with its contents. After being read Burris’ account of his dealings with Robert Blagojevich, Currie said: “Very odd. I don’t know there is anything actionable here, but I would like to check the record.”,CST-NWS-blago15.article

  68. White House and major banks act on housing crisis

    The administration moves up the unveiling of its rescue plan and lenders pledge to freeze foreclosures.

    By Maura Reynolds and E. Scott Reckard
    February 14, 2009

    Reporting from Costa Mesa and Washington — With pressure growing for government action to stem foreclosures, the White House moved up to next week the unveiling of President Obama’s housing rescue plan, while major banks said they would freeze seizures of homes for at least three weeks pending the rollout of the initiative.

    For months, Congress has been pressing the executive branch — first the Bush administration, now its successor — to come up with a program to curtail the growing wave of borrowers forced to give up their homes. On Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner disappointed lawmakers as well as the stock market by saying the foreclosure plan would be delayed several weeks.

    In response to that reaction, Obama is now scheduled to present the plan Wednesday in Phoenix. “I think you’ll see the president take a big step forward in dealing with the crisis that faces 10,000 people every day,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters.

    The moratorium announcements by big banks also followed pressure from Congress this week. At a meeting Wednesday of the House Financial Services Committee in which lawmakers chastised banking leaders for their role in the economic crisis, panel Chairman Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) asked the CEOs to freeze foreclosures until the administration’s mitigation effort was announced.

    A number of the banks said Friday that they would honor Frank’s request, most of them pledging to wait three weeks, until March 6, to see how the Obama plan would affect them. In a letter to Frank, JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said his firm was ready to work with the administration on an “appropriate process” for handling troubled borrowers, including a standardized loan modification program.

    Other large mortgage customer-service firms signing on to a moratorium included Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc., as well as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage-finance companies now controlled by the government.

    The suspensions of foreclosures generally apply to single-family residences and small complexes of up to four units. Vacant homes are excluded.
    All mortgage customer-service firms are likely to participate in the moratorium, said Guy Cecala, publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance Publications.

    “No one would complain about delaying action for three weeks,” he said. But he was skeptical “that the administration can roll out any plans that will keep the vast majority of these folks out of foreclosure once the moratorium is lifted. That’s the big problem.”

    Many economists and lawmakers concede that foreclosures can’t be avoided in every case but argue that unnecessary foreclosures are deepening the recession and taking a toll on the finances and morale of communities.
    Administration officials say they are still working out details of the foreclosure plan.

    A key dilemma facing policymakers is how to treat borrowers who owe far more on their mortgages than their homes are now worth. So far, lenders have fiercely resisted any plan that would force them to write down principal or otherwise take losses. But there is a fear that borrowers will be reluctant to make loan payments on homes in which they have no equity.

    “Most economists believe that reducing the principal would be the single most important way to reduce monthly payments” for creditworthy borrowers, said Andres Carbacho-Burgos, a housing economist with Moody’s
    Many financial institutions have been reluctant to write down the principal on mortgages because doing so would make the banks’ balance sheets, which are already fragile, even more precarious.

    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. has been promoting a “streamlined” mortgage refinancing proposal based on its experience in handling the portfolio of failed Pasadena-based mortgage giant IndyMac Bank last summer.

    Speculation in Washington has suggested the administration may favor a standard refinancing plan in which mortgage payments could be set at 31% of the homeowner’s gross monthly income. But that may not solve the problem if it doesn’t deal with a borrower’s total debt and other financial hardships, said Bert Ely, an independent banking consultant in Alexandria, Va.
    “I’ve found with streamlined mortgage refinancings that they don’t deal with the larger problem,” Ely said.

    Gibbs suggested that speculation this week in the stock market about the Obama foreclosure plan reflected the hopes of investors, not decisions by officials. “Some things may come out that aren’t in the plan, as happened extensively with the financial stability package, based on somebody’s hope that it would be,” Gibbs said. “Be careful we don’t set an unreasonable series of expectations, based on leaks from God only knows where.”

    In Phoenix, where Obama is scheduled to speak Wednesday, the housing market is among the hardest hit in the country, with prices plummeting 33% in the last 12 months, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller index. That was the steepest decline of the 20 metropolitan areas in the survey.,0,2861720.story

  69. As I have tried many times to wrap my head around the debacle of the 2008 primaries and general election, a thought popped in my head:
    The debacle was much like when the Jewish masses called out to ‘Free Barrabas’ [evidently not realizing the impact their decision would have on the world] when the Romans allowed them to essentially choose between the two to go free [rule the country]- either Barrabas [Barrack, the thief] and Jesus [Hillary, the righteous one]. It was the masses [bots, pundits, MSM, and Dimocrats] who called out ‘Free Barrabas [Barrack]’!
    And then the MSM crucified the most qualified candidate in recent history – Hillary and by transference to crucify us.

  70. Shortermer: that is a brilliant analogy. I will remember it again at Easter. She too will be resurrected and become President.

  71. Jan–I think we are all of two minds on this, and have to decide which path to follow. We know what we went through in the primaries was we watched the evil forces steal the nomination from her and do not wish to repeat the experience for her sake or ours. And we ask ourselves why it would be any different next time. If I had to make the decision today I would probably feel the same as you. But none of us have to do that right now and there are alot of cards to play. If we can help to bring about in some small way that result then it will have been worth the effort. I believe she is in a position to pursue it if certain things fall in place. I cannot be sure she would want to pursue it even if the opportunity did materialize. It is an imponderable. The one thing I feel most comfortable in saying however at a time like this is conventional assumptions do not apply. Also, if the situation turns bad enough this American idol crap will be scoffed at and we will look for a competent leader and on that score there is no one better than her and she will be visible on the world stage.

  72. Looks like CA lawbreakers have reached a compromise on the budget: increase vehicle license fees, increase state income tax, increase gasoline tax, and increase sales tax. The corporations receive hundreds of millions of tax breaks to keep their businesses in the state. Ca is in dire straits, but this is going to hurt everyone.

  73. 16 billion spending cuts
    The budget plan, which comes in the third emergency session called by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger since November, includes nearly $16 billion in spending cuts and more than $14 billion in temporary tax increases. In addition, the state would borrow about $11 billion from Wall Street – or less if the state uses federal stimulus money.

    Tax proposals include a 1-cent increase in the state sales tax, a state income tax increase, a 12-cents-per-gallon gas tax increase and an increase in the vehicle license fee. The taxes would last two years and could be extended to four years if voters approve a spending cap.

    The budget plan includes bitter pills for lawmakers: The license fee is a major concession for Schwarzenegger, who won his office in part because of a pledge to limit it. Cuts in services are dear to Democrats, and Republicans had pledged never to support tax increases.

    Passage of the deal hinges on whether lawmakers believe they have won sufficient concessions from the other side.

    For Democrats, that includes winning temporary tax increases from Republicans to avoid even deeper cuts. In return, they are agreeing to a spending cap for the state that Republicans have long sought.

    Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, also has agreed to divert some funds from Proposition 63, a measure he sponsored to guarantee money for mental health services.

    Republicans would win concessions on economic stimulus measures, including a corporate tax credit and exemptions for some projects to some environmental protection laws

    Very expensive to live in CA. I don’t know who will benefit from the slight federal tax break. If they do benefit, it will eaten up, plus more, with the increase in CA taxes.

  74. Obama is a speechifier and a party animal, a speechifier and he never lets a little thing like the truth stand in the way of a good story. Behind every headline which says Obama moves swiftly and decisively to turn around the housing markets, the banks, the savings and loans and lets face it the world, lie certain inescapable questions such as is the proposed solution the right one, how many devils are there in the details of a bill no one has read, what unintended conequences will it cause, who are the real benefiaries, and what is the total cost. An old boss of mine who applied capital budgeting alaysis to every decision which got a bit cumbersome at times used to say I know what it costs I am just not sure what I am buying and what the real benefit is. With Obama you do not even know what it costs.

  75. ShortTermer,

    Sorry I keep repeating this, but it’s important. The VOTERS WANTED HILLARY IN THE GE. Exit polls Nov 4 showed that 9.5 million of McCain’s voters would have voted for HIllary. She would have won by MORE votes than Obama did.

    In the primaries, more people wanted Hillary; the DNC munged the vote and delegate totals to give Obama a very thin ‘majority’.

    It was the media that shouted ‘crucify Hillary’. And even so, the voters didn’t go along.

    To compare the DNC to Pilate would be an insult to Pilate.

  76. Someone someday is sure to write a book on the abject failure of big media to live up to its constitutional duty to fully inform the public so they can make responsible decisions on political and economic matters which affect them.

    In that case I hope they present an expose on how and why the media failed to inform the public on the events of September 15 in a timely manner, so ordinary people could protect themselves from the ensuing stock market collapse same as insiders and big players were allowed to do.

    In that vein it would be most interesting to know whether media stars like NBC President Steve Capus, Brian Williams, Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, et. al. whom to the best of my recollection said nothing about it at the time, were quietly moving money around to protect themselves.

    Most likely that was happening since mid level wall street managers were doing that. But in that case is that not yet another example of the failure of Bif Media to provide the public with relevant information, consistent with its constitutional duty.

    Instead they suppressed that information and ordinary people lost 50% of their net worth. To me that is just as scandalous as their torrid love affair with Mr. Obama.

    o the best of my knowedge recollection and belief never vreathed a word about it


    Now it’s Kathleen Parker piling on. Where were these “insightful people” before the election??

    Oh, that’s right…talking up Obama, that:
    “He has all the advantages, including money and organization”
    “His inexperience is going to be seen as a good thing”
    “He’s the greatest orator since ___ (fill in the blanks here)”
    “He’s extremely intelligent”

    My $$$ comments sprinkled here and there.

    So Far, Amateur Hour
    By Kathleen Parker
    Wednesday, February 11, 2009

    The first however-many days of Barack Obama’s presidency have been a study in amateurism.

    $$$ Kathleen, did you skip math in high school? Through January, he was president for 11 days. On the day you wrote this, it was 11 more. Come on, that didn’t even involve cosines or integrals.

    Many suspected that Obama wasn’t quite ready, but kept their fingers crossed. Optimistic disappointment is the new holding pattern.

    $$$ We knew he wasn’t ready, and we had our fists clenched.

    What’s missing from Obama’s performance isn’t the intelligence that voters acknowledged in electing him. It’s the experience they tried to pretend didn’t really matter. Experienced politicians, after all, got us into this mess.

    $$$ Thanks bots, for giving us this dud.

    Absent is maturity — that grown-up quality of leadership that is palpable when the real deal enters a room. There’s a reason why elders are respected. They have something the rest of us don’t have — yet — because we haven’t lived long enough. We haven’t made the really tough decisions, the ones that are often unpopular.

    $$$ We saw that grown up, Hillary, entering the room when she debated Bambi numerous (22?) times. We saw immaturity from Obama in those debates and on the campaign trail, as well as a nasty streak, snotty, snarky, sexist, racist, the list goes on.

    There’s also a reason why it’s lonely at the top. The view is better, but the summit isn’t so much a mountaintop as a deserted city.

    Obama wants too much to be liked. This isn’t a character flaw. In fact his winning personality and likability have served him well through the years. Growing up in multiple cultures — black and white, American and Indonesian — he had to learn how to get along. By all accounts, he became easy company.

    $$$ Hillary knew that she wouldn’t be liked by a certain segment, but was willing to push forward with her agenda in trying to remove the inequities in our society. As First Lady of Arkansas, as First Lady, as Senator of NY, she has taken the hits and kept on going. Obama’s need to be loved and adored borders on an unhealthy fetish.

    But there’s a price one pays in becoming president. Giving up being liked is the ultimate public sacrifice. This was the hardest lesson for Bill Clinton, who loved people and found the isolation of the presidency particularly brutal. Similarly, Obama wants to stay in touch with everyday Americans, as symbolized by his reluctance to surrender his BlackBerry.

    $$$ Pray tell, which “ordinary Americans” was Obama getting reached at on his Blackberry? Heck, even Soros can’t get a meeting out of him. “George, thanks for your interest in all those causes, and thanks for helping get this job. I’m real busy now, so can I call you back later. Sure, we’ll do lunch.”

    There was a time last week when Obama looked younger than usual. Not youthful so much as not fully formed. He seemed out of place in his presidential role. In a word, he seemed haunted. Had he been visited by the ghosts of Christmas future?

    $$$ Can you say “deer” “headlights”.

    Or had he looked across the table into the eyes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and realized that he was not among friends? Obama’s lack of authority over the stimulus package has underscored the value of political experience and toughness — and given weakened Republicans the leverage they needed to launch an aggressive attack.

    $$$ Too bad Dems don’t have an “issues-oriented” policy wonk type as pres. You know, someone who “knows about stuff”.

    In the midst of it all, Obama and his wife went to an elementary school to read to second-graders, a now time-honored presidential release valve. Clinton read to children during his impeachment hearings. Bush, eternally and infamously, will be remembered for reading “The Pet Goat” to an elementary school class as airplanes were slamming into the World Trade Center towers.
    Obama said they were “just tired of being in the White House.” Oh, just wait.

    $$$ I thought he desperately wanted to get there. He told us so for two straight years.
    Other manifestations of Obama’s political greenness include his apology for picking lax taxpayers for prominent positions, his campaign-like tour to Elkhart, Ind., on Monday and his ponderous first news conference later that evening.

    First the apology.

    Why did Obama feel it necessary to apologize for others’ mistakes? If improper vetting was the problem, then say so and correct it. The tax code is absurdly complex, and most people with complicated lives hand over their numbers to accountants and hope for the best.
    Admittedly, the problem became comical as one after another Obama appointee turned up with tax debts. Q: How do you get Democrats to pay taxes? A: Appoint them to Cabinet positions.

    But Obama’s eager confession — “I screwed up” — hit a hollow note. Doubtless, he was trying to demonstrate “change” by distinguishing himself from Bush, who could never quite put a finger on his mistakes. Rather than seeming Trumanesque in stopping the buck at his desk, Obama seemed more like an abused spouse who starts her day saying, “I’m sorry. It’s all my fault.”

    He appeared weak.

    $$$ He IS weak.

    In Elkhart, the president seemed locked in campaign mode, still wooing the crowd and seeking approval. At his news conference, the overriding impression was of a man not fully in control of his message or his material. Nine minutes into the first answer to the first question, I began missing Bush’s customary dispatch. Bush’s contempt for the media meant he never stayed long enough to bore us. The faith of the American people may not have been misplaced in Obama. But the young senator from Illinois became a president overnight, before he had time to gain the confidence and wisdom one earns through trials and errors.

    $$$ All he knows is campaigning, making vague promises and giving lofty vague speeches. “Goodness is a great thing; we can overcome badness”.

    Those have just begun.

    $$$ Great, we’ll have to endure his learning curve period. To think,you could have had Hillary. But you just tore at her flesh. Thanks for waking up after the election was over, Kathleen.

  78. Sorry I keep repeating this, but it’s important. The VOTERS WANTED HILLARY IN THE GE. Exit polls Nov 4 showed that 9.5 million of McCain’s voters would have voted for HIllary. She would have won by MORE votes than Obama did.
    True and it cannot be repeated too often.

  79. rgb-parker still doesnt get it. The fundamental problem is as much one of character as one of inexperience. Does inexperience account for his false representations that Catepillar would rehire the laid off people, his false statements about when Gregg told him I am out of there and all the other little deceptions. You can be sure there is more to all these stories than meets the eye.

  80. $$$ Great, we’ll have to endure his learning curve period. To think,you could have had Hillary. But you just tore at her flesh. Thanks for waking up after the election was over, Kathleen.
    In 1946 every Frenchman recalled that during the war he was a member of the French Underground. It was too late to make a difference and it was just posturing or evasion.

  81. Sorry I keep repeating this, but it’s important. The VOTERS WANTED HILLARY IN THE GE. Exit polls Nov 4 showed that 9.5 million of McCain’s voters would have voted for HIllary. She would have won by MORE votes than Obama did.
    Turndown-you will want to save that argument for 2012.

  82. Oh, I am liking this discussion in the last few posts, starting with ShortTermer’s..

    Years ago, maybe 20, I argued with a Professor who was deriding the American system for not having a woman President so far. I had argued that it was easier electing a woman in a parliamentary system (like UK and India) because the candidate needed to only convince the party members in the order of a couple of hundreds to appoint her and that was easier compared to the American system where it was highly retail and the woman candidate would have had to convince every voter’s mind that she was capable (this scene happened in my in-laws house and my MIL was very impressed with her new DIL about how she took on the learned professor, 🙂 ).

    Well, do you see the irony here and now? The PEOPLE wanted Hillary but the party (with the assistance of a corrupt media) did everything to stop it and succeeded, and that to in a non-parliamentary system. This is a sham democracy!

    My current assessment is that 0bama is on thin ice. Lot of people were coerced into voting for him and he will pay a bigger penalty for his mistakes than otherwise. In the end the only faction that will stay steadfast with him are his primary voters. But the rest will abandon him like the sinking ship. The rest will also at some point recognize that we, the steadfast Hillary faction were not voicing our concerns JUST because we wanted Hillary but more because we saw who he really was.

  83. wbboei: I can’t thank you enough for your insight,experience and willingness to share it with so many of us that have never been in the political or public service loop.You truly are a leader along with emjay ,janh and so many other fine friends that I have encountered on this wonderful journey of support and admiration for our REAL president that we are presenting to an anxious world waiting for her wisdom and calming words.I venture to say that hillary44 is one of the prime reasons that keeps me motivated to live on to see her in the Oval Office as the rightful leader of our,at the moment ,poor countrysuffering under the most inept egomaniac ever to to use a black debit card to squander our wealth,health and worldwide reputation just to attain power and control of his duped followers.This 30 day wonder couldn’t pass a short arm inspection let alone a thorough vetting process.His term will be short,costly and shameful,but it must happen soon.Thanks gang.I am on my way to Asia at Hillarys back via my computer lifeline.

    By ABM90

  84. I am on my way to Asia at Hillarys back via my computer lifeline.

    By ABM90
    Thanks ABM90…we’re on our way to Asia…I love to travel, haven’t been able to recently….We’ll travel the world with Hillary…how wonderful!!!

  85. transcript here:

    Over the past 30 years, I’ve had the privilege of traveling to a very different Asia. Whenever I think back on my visits, it’s as if a movie reel of images, old and new, were running through my head. I think of the elegant temples of Kyoto, or the rituals of nomadic life outside Ulaanbaatar, the intricate handwork of traditional craftspeople in Chiang Rai, the vibrant markets of Hanoi, Hong Kong, and Dhaka; the grand hotels of Singapore and Manila, the calligraphers practicing their art in Xi’an, the historic dress of Seoul and the traditional dances of Jakarta, or the strum of the sitar in New Delhi.

    And I’ve seen also the skyscrapers and factories, the urban corridors and high-tech campuses, the research facilities and modern hospitals – a continent where, now, more often than not, the rule of law and free elections have become or are in the process of becoming the norm, where entrepreneurship and innovation have transformed economies into global economic powers.

    Asia has influenced world civilization for millennia, as it has our own culture. Our nation is home to 13 million Asian American citizens, and our daily life is so enriched by Asian literature and art, by music and movies, by food and architecture, medicine and science, technology and values.

    Today, it is tempting to focus our attention on the tensions and perils of our interdependence, but I prefer to view our connectedness as an opportunity for dynamic and productive partnerships that can address both the challenge and the promise of this new century.

    And that’s what I want to talk about today, how the United States is committed to a new era of diplomacy and development in which we will use smart power to work with historic allies and emerging nations to find regional and global solutions to common global problems.

    As I’ve said before, America cannot solve the problems of the world alone, and the world cannot solve them without America.

    At the same time, given the realities of today’s world, we can no longer approach our foreign policy solely country by country, or simply by carving the world into separate regions. With smart power, we will seek to build partnerships that transcend geographic and political boundaries.

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