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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Barack Obama On The Road To Ruin

Barack Obama, like a circus clown, is taking his flim-flam “stimulus” scam on the road. The road Obama is traveling on is the Road To Ruin.

The bamboozlement tour, starts by annoying the citizens of Elkhart, Indiana. Obama will drone on in a town hall to desperate citizens of Elkhart which has an unemployment rate of over 15%. Obama will employ fear to force through his save Dimocrats in 2010 “stimulus” scam.

Obama will also torment the nation tonight. There will be a news conference at 8:00 p.m. (ET). Big Media will fawn and fantasize about having sex with Obama.

* * *

Obama, along with Big Media, will hide the full economic looting of the economy. Obama will first try to force through his flim-flam “stimulus” and after that generational theft is accomplished – Americans will glimpse the other thefts, generational and otherwise, that Obama is planning.

We have been a lonely voice warning about the coming Obama Social Security Treachery. We have explained how Obama’s coming Social Security Treachery is tied to the whole of the “stimulus” scam and the other plans to loot the American economy.

We opposed the rush-rush bailout scams of late 2008 and watch with apprehension as the bailouts continue without oversight or planning. We noted in our bailout opposition that Hillary Clinton offered “solutions” while Obama offered “feel-good counseling“.

Obama will be on the Road to Ruin today and tomorrow we will learn new details of the continuing scam. Treasury Secretary Geithner will keep his mouth shut today and somehow try to get capital injections, private leveraging and other schemes to bail out the big dollar gamblers who lost on Wall Street – even as the government sucks up whatever credit there might be – with massive deficits.

It would send a thrill up our leg to have Big Media ask Obama how Treasury Secretary Geithner and Obama think there will be any credit left for the private economy when the government will suck up with massive deficits whatever credit there is available. We’d like to hear an answer from Obama supporters or supporters of the flim-flam “stimulus” scam to this credit question too. [Hint: We suspect Obama intends to loot Social Security and to get the Federal Reserve to buy treasury bills to keep the financial scam in a federal loop scam.]

We don’t expect to get any thrills up our leg anytime soon by Big Media asking Big Media tool Barack Obama real questions regarding his latest flim-flam. However, we are happy to see John McCain repeating what we have been saying – that the Republicans were wrong in the past and now Obama is doing the same wrong.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a vocal critic of the stimulus bill, complained that Republicans won’t be involved in the final negotiations. ”That’s the way the Bush administration, when we Republicans were in charge — that’s the way we did business,” he said. ”But I thought we were going to have change.”

The Republicans under Bush wanted to loot Social Security too. Remember Social Security? Remember when a real American President told us not to fear and put America on the Road to Prosperity and Security?



* * *

The Obama Road To Ruin is slowly getting mapped. It’s an ugly map:

The stimulus package the U.S. Congress is completing would raise the government’s commitment to solving the financial crisis to $9.7 trillion, enough to pay off more than 90 percent of the nation’s home mortgages.

The Federal Reserve, Treasury Department and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation have lent or spent almost $3 trillion over the past two years and pledged to provide up to $5.7 trillion more if needed. [snip]

Only the stimulus package to be approved this week, the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program passed four months ago and $168 billion in tax cuts and rebates approved in 2008 have been voted on by lawmakers. The remaining $8 trillion in commitments are lending programs and guarantees, almost all under the authority of the Fed and the FDIC. The recipients’ names have not been disclosed.

We’ve seen money go out the back door of this government unlike any time in the history of our country,” Senator Byron Dorgan, a North Dakota Democrat, said on the Senate floor Feb. 3. “Nobody knows what went out of the Federal Reserve Board, to whom and for what purpose. How much from the FDIC? How much from TARP? When? Why?”

The pledges, amounting to almost two-thirds of the value of everything produced in the U.S. last year, are intended to rescue the financial system after the credit markets seized up about 18 months ago. The promises are composed of about $1 trillion in stimulus packages, around $3 trillion in lending and spending and $5.7 trillion in agreements to provide aid.

Federal Reserve lending to banks peaked at a record $2.3 trillion in December, dropping to $1.83 trillion by last week. The Fed balance sheet is still more than double the $880 billion it was in the week before Sept. 17 when it agreed to accept lower-quality collateral. [snip]

The $9.7 trillion in pledges would be enough to send a $1,430 check to every man, woman and child alive in the world. It’s 13 times what the U.S. has spent so far on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to Congressional Budget Office data, and is almost enough to pay off every home mortgage loan in the U.S., calculated at $10.5 trillion by the Federal Reserve. [snip]

Commitments may expand again soon. [snip] The Treasury said it would delay the announcement until after the Senate votes on the stimulus package.

Bloomberg News does not even know the full map of the Obama scams and looting of the American economy. Bloomberg requested details of Fed lending under the Freedom of Information Act and filed a federal lawsuit against the central bank Nov. 7 seeking to force disclosure of borrower banks and their collateral. Arguments in the suit may be heard as soon as this month, according to the court docket.

Obama is a flim-flam scam man. Hillary Clinton was on to him a long time ago. Hillary warned Americans that Obama was repeating irresponsible Republican talking points. Hillary Clinton clued Americans in on Social Security and treasury bonds and Fiscal Responsibility:



* * *

President Bill Clinton in 1993 took the nation on the road to prosperity. We’ll listen to Bill Clinton in his first State of the Union speech today, not the flim-flam man Obama. [Full Bill Clinton transcript and video HERE.]

“President Clinton gives his first address before a joint session of Congress. He gives the economy his primary focus. He advocates for an emphasis on investment rather than consumption as well as a reduction in the federal deficit, government inefficiency, and government spending.”



Excerpts:

When Presidents speak to Congress and the Nation from this podium, typically they comment on the full range in challenges and opportunities that face the United States. But this is not an ordinary time, and for all the many tasks that require our attention, I believe tonight one calls on us to focus, to unite, and to act. And that is our economy. For more than anything else, our task tonight as Americans is to make our economy thrive again.

Let me begin by saying that it has been too long, at least three decades, since a President has come and challenged Americans to join him on a great national journey, not merely to consume the bounty of today but to invest for a much greater one tomorrow.

Like individuals, nations must ultimately decide how they wish to conduct themselves, how they wish to be thought of by those with whom they live, and later, how they wish to be judged by history. Like every individual man and woman, nations must decide whether they are prepared to rise to the occasions history presents them.

We have always been a people of youthful energy and daring spirit. And at this historic moment, as communism has fallen, as freedom is spreading around the world, as a global economy is taking shape before our eyes, Americans have called for change. And now it is up to those of us in this room to deliver for them.

Our Nation needs a new direction. Tonight I present to you a comprehensive plan to set our Nation on that new course. I believe we will find our new direction in the basic old values that brought us here over the last two centuries: a commitment to opportunity, to individual responsibility, to community, to work, to family, and to faith. We must now break the habits of both political parties and say there can be no more something for nothing and admit frankly that we are all in this together.

The conditions which brought us as a nation to this point are well-known: two decades of low productivity, growth, and stagnant wages; persistent unemployment and underemployment; years of huge Government deficits and declining investment in our future; exploding health care costs and lack of coverage for millions of Americans; legions of poor children; education and job training opportunities inadequate to the demands of this tough, global economy. For too long we have drifted without a strong sense of purpose or responsibility or community.[snip]

I well remember 12 years ago President Reagan stood at this very podium and told you and the American people that if our national debt were stacked in thousand-dollar bills, the stack would reach 67 miles into space. Well, today that stack would reach 267 miles. I tell you this not to assign blame for this problem. There is plenty of blame to go around in both branches of the Government and both parties. The time has come for the blame to end. I did not seek this office to place blame. I come here tonight to accept responsibility, and I want you to accept responsibility with me. And if we do right by this country, I do not care who gets the credit for it.

The plan I offer you has four fundamental components. First, it shifts our emphasis in public and private spending from consumption to investment, initially by jumpstarting the economy in the short term and investing in our people, their jobs, and their incomes over the long run. Second, it changes the rhetoric of the past into the actions of the present by honoring work and families in every part of our public decision-making. Third, it substantially reduces the Federal deficit honestly and credibly by using in the beginning the most conservative estimates of Government revenues, not, as the executive branch has done so often in the past, using the most optimistic ones. And finally, it seeks to earn the trust of the American people by paying for these plans first with cuts in Government waste and efficiency; second, with cuts, not gimmicks, in Government spending; and by fairness, for a change, in the way additional burdens are borne.

Bill Clinton was a president who cared about the economy and put people first. Dimocrats were angry with Bill Clinton because he did not allow them to spend and spend. On the contrary, Bill Clinton knew social progress and a strong military and defense and prosperity depended on fiscal responsibility.

Every word of Bill Clinton’s address that night are worth reading. Here are some snips of more of what he said:

Tonight I want to talk with you about what Government can do because I believe Government must do more. But let me say first that the real engine of economic growth in this country is the private sector, and second, that each of us must be an engine of growth and change… To create jobs and guarantee a strong recovery, I call on Congress to enact an immediate package of jobs investments of over $30 billion to put people to work now, to create a half a million jobs: jobs to rebuild our highways and airports, to renovate housing, to bring new life to rural communities, and spread hope and opportunity among our Nation’s youth… Second, our plan looks beyond today’s business cycle because our aspirations extend into the next century. The heart of this plan deals with the long term… a deficit reduction program that will increase the savings available for the private sector to invest… both increased investment and deficit reduction… The spending cuts I recommend were carefully thought through in a way to minimize any adverse economic impact… switch the balance in the budget from consumption to more investment… the boldest targeted incentives for small business in history… We propose to attack this credit crunch which has denied small business the credit they need to flourish and prosper…

That was a president Americans could trust. That was a president who knew what he was doing. That was a qualified, experienced leader.

Bill Clinton presented a comprehensive plan to the American people that night. Americans knew the road Bill Clinton was on and specifically how he intended to take us with him, on a budget basis and on a well planned program by program basis.

As Obama oppresses Americans with his droning dull attacks on logic and reality we will listen to real leaders. We will listen to leaders we can trust. We will listen to leaders who are qualified and ready to lead on Day 1.

* * *

Hillary Clinton spoke to young people worried about Social Security and the economy. Hillary is a leader we can trust. Hillary Clinton is a qualified leader – ready on Day 1.



Hillary Clinton spoke the truth during the primaries. Obama flim-flammed. Hillary Clinton spoke the truth about the economy and Social Security and the dangers of doing what sounded good, like lifting Social Security caps without restraint.



Real leaders, qualified leaders, leaders ready on Day 1 walk the road to prosperity, opportunity and security.

Barack Obama travels the road with thugs and thieves. Barack Obama travels the Road to Ruin.

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  • admin

    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12396&ArticleId=320909

    “General Motors plans to invest $1 billion in Brazil to avoid the kind of problems the U.S. automaker is facing in its home market, said the beleaguered car maker.

    According to the president of GM Brazil-Mercosur, Jaime Ardila, the funding will come from the package of financial aid that the manufacturer will receive from the U.S. government and will be used to “complete the renovation of the line of products up to 2012.’”

  • wbboei

    I think it is fair to say that Mr Obama will turn out to be the architect of our national decline even more so than Bush. That is the price we pay when a majority of voters select the leader of our nation based on faulty criteria.

    Great post Admin.

  • mj

    Just so I am clear, what kind of stim do you think either Hill or Bill would have proposed?

  • JanH

    Admin,

    Amazing article!

  • djia

    President Obama bumps his head
    Posted: 12:42 PM ET

    see video here:

    cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/02/09/vo.obama.bumps.head.cnn

    The President bumped his head as he stepped into Marine One Monday morning at the White House.

    WHITE HOUSE (CNN) — There was a minor bump on the road — actually a minor bump on the head — as President Barack Obama departed Monday for Elkhart, Indiana to sell his stimulus plan to Americans.

    While boarding Marine One on Monday morning, the president turned to wave goodbye and ever so slightly bumped the left side of his head on the doorway to the helicopter. He seemed to recover quickly, then ducked before boarding the helicopter that would take him to Air Force One. Unfortunately for Obama, there were many cameras there to capture the accident.

    This isn’t the first time a president’s head has collided with Marine One: President George W. Bush hit his head on the side of the helicopter while boarding shortly after taking office — also in full view of a row of cameras.

    Luckily for both men, no visible signs of injury resulted from the minor mishap.

  • JanH

    I am so darn tired of hearing media and obama talk about how he “won” each and every time he wants to push his weight and bully anyone standing in his way. About how he isn’t a pushover. Who the bloody H cares???

    Oh yes, you won, you twit! But not by any fair means…so I wouldn’t be so smug if I were you.

    I pray every night that what goes around comes around and that you get yours in spades!

  • djia

    Obama’s Camp David trip a success

    The reviews are in: Obama said he “digs” Camp David, after he spent the weekend there along with family and friends.

    “It was beautiful,” he said. “The girls just had a great time. They had a lot of fun.
    You can see that during the summer it’s going to be a nice place to spend a lot of time.
    Hit a few golf balls. Played a little basketball….Sasha brought one of her friends and then a friend of Michelle’s and ours came up with her two kids. So it was nice.”

    Reggie Love, POTUS’s body man, was also up at Camp David with the Obamas.

    politico.com

  • gonzotx

    Obama is a flim-flam scam man. Hillary Clinton was on to him a long time ago. Hillary warned Americans that Obama was repeating irresponsible Republican talking points. Hillary Clinton clued Americans in on Social Security and treasury bonds and Fiscal Responsibility:
    **********************************

    It begs the question as to why she supported the flim flam man in the end…surly she knew McCain and Palin had more integrity in their little fingers than he…Why?

  • gonzotx

    admin Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    ************************

    Our money going to Brazil….

  • djia

    # admin Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12396&ArticleId=320909

    “General Motors plans to invest $1 billion in Brazil to avoid the kind of problems the U.S. automaker is facing in its home market, said the beleaguered car maker.

    According to the president of GM Brazil-Mercosur, Jaime Ardila, the funding will come from the package of financial aid that the manufacturer will receive from the U.S. government and will be used to “complete the renovation of the line of products up to 2012.’”
    ************************************

    THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT! [ pardon my french......but this just pisses me off to new limits!!]…. so now we taxpayers are going to fund American corporations to relocate to another country!!!

    is to become the new trend???

    I am telling ya, i am buying my entire family passports this year for their birthdays……. starting with my boys who are old enough to be drafted [i believe it's coming] ……no way in H. E. dbl hockey sticks will i let them fight for oil to make the fat cats fatter and or for New World Order.

  • admin

    mj, none of us can say with any authority what kind, if any, simulus, Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton would have proposed. We feel it is safe to say that there would NOT have been a stimulus plan as such but rather a coordinated and comprensive economic plan which we could all see well before it was passed and which Bill Clinton would have taken credit/blame for personally.

    Read the Bill Clinton speech and see how comprehensive he is, how detailed in letting Americans know what he was proposing and why.

    We nor you can possibly know what Obama intends. We do know he has said he will cut back on Social Security and other programs – he has said he will let us know later this month. We know he has said he will present more spending programs but we don’t know what those are. We know there are appropriations bills left over from last year he has yet to address in any substantial manner.

    Only a fool would sign a contract without knowing what the ancilliary costs are. Obama wants to rush-rush his “stimulus” plan without letting us know what else he proposes. Obama can’t be trusted and we want to see the details.

    Democrats used to have critical faculties when it came to George W. Bush. With W we wanted all the details. We trust Obama about as much as George W., if not less.

  • curiosityhasme

    Unconscienable that he’s talking about “digging” Camp David, shooting hoops, swinging golf clubs, already talking summer vacation, etc. when we are, to quote him,”facing the biggest catastrophe since the Great Depression.” Must be nice to laugh about “needing to get out of the WH” for a breather – while millions are losing their homes, losing jobs right and left and many worrying about where their next meal is coming from. ELITISM….remember the arraogance and disconnect we saw for months on end…first hte seizure of privately-owned by the government – check. Next, take over census to redraw districts like Tom Delay did for the Republicans in Texas – check. Act on HR 45 for national registration of firearms, and implement 500% tax on ammo – in the works. Then, implement the draft even though not in a crisis – for civilian military – watch and see. Anybody checking into real estate in Canada?

  • mj

    I am not for this plan. I am for major structural changes in the US economy. And, I do think Hill or Bill would have had some sort of plan that involved government spending. I don’t understand why anyone would think Obama is to the left of Bill, or even more so Hillary. Being of the Left does not mean spending on stupid proposals, it doesn’t mean never cutting any cost. Obama ran to the right of Hillary on every domestic proposal and he continues to today.

  • djia

    here’s the photo of obama hitting his head……….what a idiot!! LMAO!!

    plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/47581

  • gonzotx

    MJ

    The difference is the Clinton(s) actually understand economics

  • marie3548

    Obama can never be trusted

    http://americanthinker.com/2009/02/the_bureaucratic_coup_targetin.html
    February 09, 2009
    The Bureaucratic Coup Targeting Hillary and Israel

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/plouffe-makes-a-surprise-visit-to-azerbaijan-not-so-fast-take-a-closer-look/#comments

    Plouffe makes a “surprise visit” to Azerbaijan? Not so fast! Take a closer look (Updated 4x)

    He’s there as a “private citizen”? Apparently, some are assuming that many of us just fell off the back of the turnip truck. A lot of Americans vacation in Azerbaijan, right? Plouffe does not have the expertise or credentials to be performing in a “off the record” foreign policy capacity

  • djia

    curiosityhasme Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Anybody checking into real estate in Canada?

    *****************

    How long before canada puts up a border fence??

  • mj

    I agree with that completely. I just don’t think this is a Left/Right argument where one of them is on the side of the people. I think Repubs are all about the plutocrats and Obama is mostly about the plutocrats, and Obama has no knowledge of economic policy, that’s different then thinking the repubs somehow are good stewards of the nation’s economy.

  • pm317

    djia, no doubt that he is Bush III, in more ways than one.

    On a serious note, I was poking around the foreignpolicy.com site.. seems like a site for lot of good info (in the past I had thought its motives may be suspect but not right now).

  • pm317

    djia Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    curiosityhasme Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Anybody checking into real estate in Canada?
    ———————–

    IBM is offering to relocate their laid off workers in the US to India with moving expenses paid.

  • birdgal

    Amazing, the Congress worked all weekend on this spending package, and BO is playing golf, shooting hoops, and schmoozing. What a schmuck.

  • birdgal

    pm317 Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    djia Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    curiosityhasme Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Anybody checking into real estate in Canada?
    ———————–

    IBM is offering to relocate their laid off workers in the US to India with moving expenses paid.

    ——————————————————————————-

    What about giving tax incentives to companies, so that they keep their companies in the U.S.? Our standard of living is definitely going to decrease, as these companies move off shore. Where are the jobs going to come from???

  • admin

    mj the insistance on left/right is mostly useless. What works is the issue.

    Hillary was sometimes to the “right” of Obama on foreign policy and sometimes to the “left” on social issues. But that is so irrelevant it is laughable. We never agreed with Bill Clinton on everything he proposed or did, same with Hillary. But both Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton had a world view and a direction overall (core Democratic principles) we thought would lead to better lives for Americans and for the world (we do think if a label is required “progressive” or “liberal” is as good as any).

    As to spending and cuts, cutting spending can be “left” (for instance military spending) or “right” (food stamps) just as increased spending can be “left” or “right”. There are also horrible and good people in the “left” and horrible and good people in the “right”. There are some people that can be trusted in the “left” and in the “right” and some people that can’t be trusted in the “left” and in the “right”.

    It is nice that you are for “major structural changes in the US economy”. If you had influence over an economy of trillions of dollars we would quiz you in minutiae about your plans and proposed changes. We tend to agree with you that Hillary Clinton and/or Bill Clinton would “have had some sort of plan that involved government spending.” The point is they would have had a detailed comprehensive PLAN and we would know if it involved “major structural changes”.

    It is not fruitful to engage in detailed discussions or dreamy discussions about what we want or about what Obama says – because we don’t believe anything he says anyway. We watch and comment on what he does.

    We are creatures of the Democratic Left. That does not mean we agree with the pod people that have taken over the Democratic Party.

    We suggest that Obama’s philosophy is not from the “left” nor from the “right”. Obama’s philosophy is OPPORTUNISM. Whatever is good for himself is what Obama believes in.

  • mj

    What about giving tax incentives to companies, so that they keep their companies in the U.S.?

    That was Obama’s stupid proposal at the outset. The problem is it doesn’t work. No company is going to keep a job here because of a 3 thousand dollar tax credit. It’s also impossible to say which companies created a new job, kept a job here that would have gone anywhere, etc. It’s a sham to just give more money to big business. We need a labor movement in the service sector, because those are primarily jobs that have to be done here, ie you are not going to hire someone in pakistan to pour a cup of coffee for someone in Boston. you can not force companies to keep jobs in America. It’s stupid policy.

  • djia

    FDA Fails to Protect Public: Remains Silent About Lead in Lipstick
    Feb 9 01:28 PM US/Eastern

    Canada finds lead in kids’ face paint, declares cosmetic chemicals toxic

    WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — More than a year after the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reported that popular brands of lipstick contain lead, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has still not released the results of its own testing of lead in lipstick, despite pressure from senators and repeated calls from health groups.

    New reports indicate that the beauty industry’s lead problems go further than lipstick. The Canadian government announced last week it found lead in children’s face paint. The results were publicly announced immediately as the government evaluates next steps.

    Health Canada also announced last week that it has designated two silicon-based chemicals widely used in personal care products — D4 and D5 — as toxic, an important step toward regulating dangerous substances out of consumer products.

    Unlike Health Canada, the U.S. FDA has no such toxic designation, does not conduct routine safety testing of personal care products, and does not publicly report information in a timely manner — as evidenced by the lead-in-lipstick situation.

    In Oct. 2007, the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reported that 61% of lipsticks it tested contained lead. In Nov. 2007, Sens. John Kerry, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein urged FDA to test a range of lipsticks for lead, publicly report the results, and take immediate action to reduce consumers’ exposure to lead from cosmetic products.

    Fourteen months later, FDA has made no public statements, issued no reports, and taken no action to reduce consumers’ exposure.

    “The typical turnaround time in a laboratory for lead tests is 10 days. There’s no reason for FDA to sit on its lead-in-lipstick research for over a year,” said Stacy Malkan of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, a national coalition of health and environmental groups.

    “FDA appears to still be operating under Bush-era tactics of secrecy and delay. It’s time for new leadership and new direction at FDA, so the agency can do what Americans expect it do to: ensure the safety of cosmetic products.

    “The scientific data is conclusive: Lead in any amount is a health concern. Lead is a proven neurotoxin that can cause learning and behavioral problems, and pregnant women and children are particularly vulnerable.”

    Links: Letter from FDA; the Science of Lead in Lipstick.

    SOURCE Campaign for Safe Cosmetics

  • mj

    It is not fruitful to engage in detailed discussions or dreamy discussions about what we want or about what Obama says – because we don’t believe anything he says anyway. We watch and comment on what he does.

    I don’t think Obama is going to do a damn thing I think would be very effective policy for the majority of Americans. That was my point.

  • birdgal

    mj Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    What about giving tax incentives to companies, so that they keep their companies in the U.S.?

    That was Obama’s stupid proposal at the outset. The problem is it doesn’t work. No company is going to keep a job here because of a 3 thousand dollar tax credit. It’s also impossible to say which companies created a new job, kept a job here that would have gone anywhere, etc. It’s a sham to just give more money to big business. We need a labor movement in the service sector, because those are primarily jobs that have to be done here, ie you are not going to hire someone in pakistan to pour a cup of coffee for someone in Boston. you can not force companies to keep jobs in America. It’s stupid policy.

    —————————————————————————————

    Service jobs are very low paying. Pouring coffee isn’t very lucrative. So, those jobs get unionized. Many small businesses will go out of business, and prices will be ten dollars for a cup of coffee.

  • mj

    Service jobs are very low paying. Pouring coffee isn’t very lucrative. So, those jobs get unionized. Many small businesses will go out of business, and prices will be ten dollars for a cup of coffee.

    Manufacturing jobs would be very low paying as well if they were not highly unionized. Service sector includes lots of jobs that can’t be moved, health care workers, day care providers, retail, hospitality, etc. You should read Krugman on this. The lapse in wages isn’t due to open trade and the US becoming more reliant on service sector jobs, it’s that those jobs are not unionized. Further, few small business jobs would be unionized. But Wal-Mart, for example would be, and that would push up wages for the entire sector.

  • djia

    Monday, Feb 09
    President Obama Takes Beer Outing With Sean Hannity “Under Advisement”

    President Barack Obama comments on potentially having a beer with FNC’s Sean Hannity during today’s town hall: “Generally his opinion of me does not seem to be very high…but I’m always good for a beer”:

    Regarding Obama’s commment that “there’s a certain segment of hard core Sean Hannity fans that probably wouldn’t want to go have a beer with me” on The Daily Show, Hannity said recently on his show: “President Obama, I’ll buy the beer, and in the spirit of spreading the wealth, I’ll even pay for it.”

    youtube.com/watch?v=oSdZwy35CR0&eurl=

  • admin

    There was a time when Democrats would laugh at those dumb ol’ grassroots Republicans because they did not see how Republican presidents and other leaders never did what they promised. Reagan never soiled the White House or attended any “pro-life” evangelicals we laughed. How stupid those Republicans are, we said?

    Now the Democratic Left and Democratic grassroots don’t see how we are getting played.

    The national Dimocrats will do very little because as long as they have red flag “issues” they can fundraise off those issues.

  • curiosityhasme

    dija –

    Yes, rather than us worry about putting up a fence to keep terrorists crossing over from Canada, THEY will be the ones needing to keep US citizens out when BHO surprises us (oh what a shocker) when the Rangel draft is implemented. However, looks to be a civilian army first. Can just see my sons confiscating civilian firearms…won’t happen cap’n.

  • djia

    Good News: Sen. Sessions still fighting for citizenship verification amendment
    By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2009 01:54 PM

    Just heard from Sen. Sessions’ office about the bipartisan amendment to ensure that stimulus fund recipients perform E-verify citizenship vetting before spending our tax dollars. Good news:

    “…the E-Verify fight isn’t over. We just re-filed the amendment which is modified to fit the Collins/Nelson substitute. We can still object to a UC [unanimous consent] to accept the manager’s amendment unless we get a vote on E-Verify.”

    I’ve uploaded the amendment text (pdf) here.

    michellemalkin.com/2009/02/09/good-news-sen-sessions-still-fighting-for-citizenship-verification-amendment/

    Troops enlisted to cheer Obama spendulus plan?
    By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2009 01:22 PM

    Did you notice the applauding troops placed strategically behind President Obama during his Generational Theft Act rally in Elkhart this afternoon?

    michellemalkin.com/2009/02/09/troops-enlisted-to-cheer-obama-spendulus-plan/

  • djia

    curiosityhasme

    I couldn’t see mine doing it either……especially sam who is a hunter

  • filbertsf

    djia, you’re reading michelle malkin’s blog these days? I can never hate Obama that much to read from that human garbage disposal.

  • curiosityhasme

    dija -

    Keep reading MM. After watching TCM countdown to Oscar, watching The Duke and Maureen O’Hara in The Quiet Man, makes me think a wee bit of Ireland as well. Swelling ranks of expats these days, and I don’t mean bleeding far-left nutjobs, either. It’s a much more civilized society. Ashame when the countries fled from are more attractive in many respects. Full circle. Retirement years – Integrity vs Despair.

  • filbertsf

    Obama needs to stop scaring Americans. We’re scared enough. Whatever happened to “hope?”

    “Making his case in the most dire terms, President Barack Obama said that if Congress does not quickly pass an economic stimulus package, the nation will slip into a crisis so deep that “we may be unable to reverse” it.”

  • Mrs. Smith

    Yes, Admin- I believe every single solitary word you’ve written. However, I will add to what you’ve already outlined. I have the feeling things will be much worse than we could ever have imagined. Something along the lines of Wartime Austerity. Those are the words ringing in my ear and haunting my senses. Something like none of us have ever experienced before.

  • pm317

    birdgal, the focus should be on having a smarter workforce (more engineers and scientists than lawyers) and innovative companies that do things some of these poorer countries can never do due to lack of resources. If India and China can produce top-notch programmers and engineers and scientists and have them work for less than half your salary, Indian and Chinese companies will of course win and American companies have to compete against that. The kind of protectionism you suggest has never worked. What IBM is doing with offering laid off workers relocation to India is interesting — it is the next best thing to drastically bring down wages here. I am no economist but it looks like America is at crossroads about wage control (and living standards) issues.

  • JanH

    What exactly does obama think he is doing? Instead of rolling up his sleeves and pushing to his weak stimulus plan, he is going to Kodak moments with the public.

    Memo to the unwise one: The election is over!

  • dot48

    so the fraud was within a few minutes of Kentucky and nary a peep.

  • filbertsf

    JanH, I think it’s a way to bypass having to talk to the opposition party and those dissenting within his party. Bush did the same thing.

    This guy is wasting his political capitol.

  • ShortTermer

    So, I am interested to see how long before a word that is foreign for so long to the everyday man and woman comes back into vogue- revolution.

    I am guessing it will be when the Huckster makes good on changing Social Security. Maybe then the anger will spew forth and stopping him can begin.
    Heck, myself [not countring my children and grandchildren] and my seventeen husbands have paid enough into the Social Security system to float everybody’s boat.

  • wbboei

    djia, you’re reading michelle malkin’s blog these days? I can never hate Obama that much to read from that human garbage disposal
    ————————
    filbertsf: think about what you are saying. Would you really reject something important and true just because you did not happen to like the bearer of the news? That is what bots do. Why not separate yourself from the messenger and evaluate the message on its merits. Do you think it is unimportant to verify the citizenship of recipients of bail out moneys? Do you doubt that Obama is orchestrating faux support for his bailout? That information can be accepted on the merits if it is credible. You do not need to embrace Malkins religion or philosophy.

  • djia

    filbertsf

    yes i read MM site as well as many others of many different points of view…i have never been the type to drink only one brand of kool ade and become a bot who only repeats the daily MEMO of “the one” i read/listen too.

    I choose to make up my own mind

    Big pink is my MAIN FLAVOR how ever,[ADMIN, YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST!!] i do bring back info here that i feel is worthy of exposure no matter who it is who wrote it.

  • wbboei

    I am guessing it will be when the Huckster makes good on changing Social Security. Maybe then the anger will spew forth and stopping him can begin.
    ————————
    Bush tried and failed. So will Obama. Let us hope this becomes his Waterloo. One of many.

  • wbboei

    Admin: sent you an email.

  • filbertsf

    the only problem is that MM has the tendency to fabricate details.

    I feel as though we’re posting any blog and articles that just so happens to criticize or have a negative Obama slant. The internet is full of crazies and talking heads. The point is not to just post everything that is out there.

    I not impartial to diverse points of views. But we have to be selective as to the credibility of the sources. MM is vile pile of bile.

  • birdgal

    pm317 Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    birdgal, the focus should be on having a smarter workforce (more engineers and scientists than lawyers) and innovative companies that do things some of these poorer countries can never do due to lack of resources. If India and China can produce top-notch programmers and engineers and scientists and have them work for less than half your salary, Indian and Chinese companies will of course win and American companies have to compete against that. The kind of protectionism you suggest has never worked. What IBM is doing with offering laid off workers relocation to India is interesting — it is the next best thing to drastically bring down wages here. I am no economist but it looks like America is at crossroads about wage control (and living standards) issues.

    ————————————————————————————————–

    If most of the jobs are outsourced, then what kind of economy do we have? I think our standard of living is going to take a huge dive. My comment was protectionistic, but I would not want to move to a foreign country, where the standard of living was lower. I have never been to India, but isn’t the standard of living lower? The country seems to have a great educational system, as evidenced by their technology schools, scientists, and physicians. Maybe, I am getting too old. I spent two years in Ecuador, as a Peace Corps volunteer, and learned how spoiled we are in the U.S. I guess, I still take some things for granted. It is an adventure living in another country, but to do so permanently? If things keep changing, I may have to look into it.

  • ShortTermer

    MM pointed out that Jeff Sessions from my home state, is trying to accomplish something important. Sessions should be getting a lot of emails saluting him for this action.

  • gonzotx

    wbboei

    I don’t know, I think in this koolaid community of the young, selling out Gramma and Gramps would not be as hard as before. I fear for Soc SEc

  • ShortTermer

    djia, Big Pink is my mainstay as well, but as you stated that does not preclude being fair to other outlets.

  • ShortTermer

    gpnzotx, I fear for SS as well.

  • ShortTermer

    gonzotx, sorry.

  • admin

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0209/Pelosi_Reid_have_failed_Shuler_says.html

    Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C) has further ingratiated himself with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — not — by declaring that Pelosi and Harry Reid “failed” the bipartisanship test on stimulus.

    “In order for us to get the confidence of America, it has to be done in a bipartisan way,” Shuler said in Raleigh following an economic forum, according to the AP.

    “We have to have everyone — Democrats and Republicans standing on the stage with the administration — saying ‘We got something done that was efficient, stimulative and timely.’”

    Here’s the kicker: “I truly feel that’s where maybe House leadership and Senate leadership have really failed.”

    Shuler, rumored to be mulling a ’10 Senate run, was one of 11 House Democrats to vote “no” on the stimulus and was already deep in Pelosi’s doghouse. Now he’ll have to build a Harry Reid wing.

  • djia

    Filbertsf

    But we have to be selective as to the credibility of the sources. MM is vile pile of bile.

    ****************

    I am selective of the articles i choose to share, but i am not selective in who i will or won’t check out….. I choose to take in arguments from both sides of the fence before i decide which side of the fence i should be on. Something that ones bots should learn to do.

    i have not heard one complaint about who i have quoted or linked too or who i choose to read and what articles/information i have brought here, that is until you today.

    from your statements above i gather you would like the position of telling each of us who we can read, who is credible, and who we should find appealing or who is nothing more than a pile of dung..

    YOU SOUND JUST LIKE THE DIMOCRAT OBAMA MEDIA [MSM]

    FYI as for Michelle malkin , i personally find that she sits on top of the fence these days , not on either side as of late she is critical of both republicans and dimocrats and calls it as it is not as she would like it. she has been the only blog that has really taken to task the debacle of obama/fema etc in kentucky… she has been taking the few republicans to task over siding with the dims on this spending bs too! she is also the first to post anything new on this stimulus debacle so yes i go there to see what’s up to the minute on it. and i fully intend to bring any PERTINENT information here to share.

  • wbboei

    filbertsf Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
    Obama needs to stop scaring Americans. We’re scared enough. Whatever happened to “hope?”

    “Making his case in the most dire terms, President Barack Obama said that if Congress does not quickly pass an economic stimulus package, the nation will slip into a crisis so deep that “we may be unable to reverse” it.”
    ——————————
    They told us the same thing about the financial bailout–act now or there will be death, chaos and endless night. So we did it, and the financial industry used the money not to free up lending but to buy other banks, airplanes and take nice vacations. Then, they told us the same thing about GE that if we let them fail it would be the end of civilization as we know it. Again we yielded and now we learn that the company will be building cars in Brazil–part of a new Good Neighbor Policy I am sure. And so when Bambi stands there and tells a credulous audience that we must accept his massive bailout with no strings, in lieu of all others (Krugmans), and if we do not accept it in haste then the damage will be irreversible.

    I’ve Heard That Song Before
    Words & Music by Sammy Cahn & Jule Styne
    Recorded by Harry James and Helen Forrest, 1939

    (G7) C C/B Am7 Am7/G Bm7-5 E7
    It seems to me I’ve heard that song be – fore,

    Bm7-5 E7 A7
    It’s from an old, fam – il – iar score;

    A7+5 A7 D9 D7
    I know it well, that mel – o – dy.

  • wbboei

    Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C) has further ingratiated himself with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — not — by declaring that Pelosi and Harry Reid “failed” the bipartisanship test on stimulus.
    —————————————-
    A very wise man. A solid Hillary supporter. He sees Biden out there pouring cold piss on the proposal (like he always does, bless his heart), Obama out there staking his candidacy on it with fire and brimstone, and few if any republicans boarding the good ship lollypop. So he says maybe there is a message here. Maybe this boat is unseaworthy.

  • henry

    wbboei
    can you please tell me why our senators canot vote by proxy?

  • pm317

    What do you guys think of this — it is going around the net? Watch the video (well, it is just the audio):

    youtube.com/watch?v=RGafMHsV4Ug

  • JanH

    US stimulus plan must be finished this week-Reid

    WASHINGTON, Feb 9 (Reuters) – U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said on Monday that Congress must complete work on the economic stimulus package this week and would not leave for its February break — slated to begin this weekend — until it finishes.

    “We have to complete this work this week, there’s every opportunity for us to complete it by Friday,” the Nevada Democrat said on the Senate floor.

    The Senate is poised to pass an $827 billion package but will have to be reconciled with an $819 billion bill approved by the U.S. House of Representatives.

    reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSWBT01060320090209

  • djia

    Jan

    this is the perfect time for republicans to walk out and go on vacation like poopsie and reid do when they do not want to pass something and i hope they turn the lights and cameras off on them to boot LOL!!

  • JanH

    LOL…djia…

    and then guess who will have a temper tantrum?

  • JanH

    pm317,

    Nothing would surprise me anymore. On the other hand, feeding the paranoia is this particular radio announcer’s favorite habit.

  • pm317

    the video/audio link I posted is from a caller from Chicago on Michael Savage (I guess this is a wingnut) radio. The caller called the stimulus plan a job patronage system for the Dems. If we’re loyal Dems and Obots, we would say what is wrong with that, right?

  • gonzotx

    PM317

    HOW DO YOU POST A VIDEO? I CAN DO LINKS, BUT DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO A VIDEO

    SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS

  • wbboei

    gonzotx Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
    wbboei

    I don’t know, I think in this koolaid community of the young, selling out Gramma and Gramps would not be as hard as before. I fear for Soc SEc
    ——————–
    I agree it you gonztx. They would sell out their elders in a New York minute. They do not trust anyone over 30 and consider them to be expendable. Yes, I am generalizing but that is what I am picking up in the ether zone.

    But what we are talking about here is bots. They have no sense of ethics, maturity or judgment. They are the end result of an evolutionary process which rewards consumerism, youth and expects everything to happen in real time. When things dont all gel for them they become angry and resentful. Social darwiinism will eliminate them over time.

    The good news is they are an obscene subset of the youth of this country, most of whom do not sink to that level. But politicans like Obama who pretend to be uniters but are in fact dividers in matters of race, gender and age exploit these ignoramuses for political power.

  • wbboei

    To the above I would add this.

    Legitimate young people today are facing a far greater set of challenges than we did. The cost of an education today is 20 times what it cost me thirty five years ago. Good jobs are harder than ever to come by. It is always hard for young people to break into the business world and when they do their wages are minimal and long hours are de riguer. To give you one example a young lawyer today who goes to work in some of the major lawfirms I am familar with stands a 1 in 20 chance of making partner.

  • djia

    good night everyone……it’s time for work …..thank god i get to miss “that one” on tv tonight LMAO!!!

  • wbboei

    PM: you can safely assume that when the Illoinis combine realized their man had a chance to be president there were discussions about how this would be beneficial to Chicago. If you recall my posting from a few days ago, the former mayor of Juneau recounted the same kind of discussions concerning Bush. But I do find a more ominous situation here, because I do not perceive a set of core values in Mr Obama that might reign in his pursuit of power, nor do I perceive a credible media which could act as a check and balance against him if the goes too far. It may be there but I sure as hell dont see it. All I see is cnn, msnbc, nbc, nyt and washpo who deal in distortion, lies and coverups. They cannot be trusted–especially in a crisis.

  • Paula

    BTW, I don’t buy the argument – and that’s all it is – that Hillary is being sidelined. She never would’ve taken the job if that would’ve been the case. And if Obama had promised her she’d have real power and reneged on that three weeks into his term, he’d be an enormous fool. I just don’t think he’d be that stupid.

    His foreign policy team includes several strong people, and Hillary certainly has no problem with that. I’m just glad she is where she is, and feels so much more at ease about our foreign policy knowing that.

  • henry

    hey lots of attention paid here and deservedly so to the injustices with regards to women
    Something I just discovered. Take a few minutes call a local hospital anf find out where the non insured people are housed who have been to detox waiting for a bed in a rehab. And then take the old clothes you would have given to something else and give it directly to some one who needs and wants it. I took several bags and the woman at the counter as I could not go in was overwhelmed that I had lots of women’s clothing. Talked to her for a few minutes. Very sad that women do not get help early as they gotta feed the kids and also which I learned tonight the men tend to cover for a woman whether it be a brother father or child. Anyhow when women end up in rehab without insurance it is I was told usually with just the clothes on their back. Easy very easy call local hospital ask where they send people waiting for a bed in a rehab. Get the address and drop shit off. or sit and scream that the government should be doing it.

  • gonzotx

    wbboei Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    ***************************

    Solvent Green ring a bell?

  • gonzotx

    henry

    I actually work in a detox center in Austin. The homeless go to our PES, psychiatric emergency services and get funding that way. In order to get funding for acute withdrawal they have to have a psychiatric disorder, like Major Depression with Suicide ideation. Then get very good care, including clothes and health care while here, but living on the streets is not for the weak of heart and the call of the addiction is strong. We are a revolving door. No one has a high success rate. Lucky in perfect circumstances to have 15% success.

  • basil9

    My perspective on the ‘stimulus plan.”

    I admit I have no economic theory expertise but, FWIW, here’s my take on BHO’s ‘stimulus’ boondoggle based on 20 years of experience with public school bureaucracy, a microcosm of the political landscape.

    I worked in a city where the ‘education’ system was so bad the state took it over and financed it with taxpayer money.

    For those of you who have seen “Lean on Me,” think the opening chaotic hallway scenes with graffiti-marred walls, gangsta’s bullying and shaking down other kids, fights beyond every other corridor corner, cafeteria riots.

    The movie was released in 1989. Twelve years later, when I started in the district, nothing had changed unless you count the installation of metal detectors.
    Police had been assigned to the schools and there was even more overcrowding because of an influx of ‘illegal’ aliens, especially after 911.

    I didn’t work in Kennedy High, where “Lean on Me” was filmed. By that time in my ‘educational’ career I had decided not to work with kids who were taller than me. (I’m 5’3”)

    But that didn’t prevent a third grader from punching me in the eye, a 7th grader from threatening me with a gun and rampaging neighborhood 5th graders wielding baseball from targeting my car.

    But that’s another story.

    Onto my view of bureaucracy and ‘public’ education.

    Since the state had taken over the district, there was tons of cash supposedly meant to set up all kinds of idiotic programs run by clueless state beurocrats who’d never stepped foot in a classroom. This was channeled through the local school district headed by a state-appointed superintendent.

    I spent years watching the building’ supervisors’ redecorate their offices, buy big screen TV’s, budget for ‘supervisor training session,’ They hired their friends and colleagues for all the new studentless-contact positions invented to increase the club membership. I languished in the ‘cafetorium’, teaching music classes during lunch periods. None of the state money funneled to my school was going to any ‘child-improvement’ project that didn’t have an immediate positive impact on the jobs of those doling out the money.

    And if you weren’t in the ‘club,” which I refused to join, you were screwed.

    It had nothing to do with helping kids and everything to do with upholding the comfort level of those in charge of the cash.

    My problems increased the year I came back after summer vacation, hoping they’d erected a semi-permanent wall across the stage area where I worked to shield the ‘music’ room from food projectiles and unbearable noise levels. Instead, I found new doors installed throughout the building.

    There had been nothing wrong with the old doors and the new doors were so heavy the kids couldn’t open them

    When I asked why providing an acceptable teaching space for someone who ‘serviced’ the entire school, 500+ kids, wasn’t given priority over the unnecessary installation of doors to replace perfectly good ones, I dug my grave. I’d tread on the wrong toes, those of the AP with deep ties to local contractors.

    The push was on to get me out of the system.

    This was partially done by administration surreptitiously ‘encouraging’ parents to file harassment charges against me. ‘.

    I knew my rights and made ample use of the union so I emerged unscathed, at least with regards to my paycheck. But I was shaking the money-trail and no one wanted to interfere with what was a decade-long bonanza for administrators, supervisors and, no doubt, state officials.

    A year or so before I left the district the local papers finally reported on the corruption. Not a d@mn thing happened to anyone.

    I haven’t got any solution for the US economic crisis but my gut tells me BHO is doing the same line-your-pockets-and- screw- the- little- people- dance that’s been going on since time immemorial.

    And his plan for the states dispensing almost a trillion dollars may be an even worse idea than having the feds do it.

  • SHV

    More hope and change for Bush III.

    “Justice Department Stands Behind Bush Secrecy In Extraordinary Rendition Case (2/9/2009)

    “Eric Holder’s Justice Department stood up in court today and said that it would continue the Bush policy of invoking state secrets to hide the reprehensible history of torture, rendition and the most grievous human rights violations committed by the American government. This is not change. This is definitely more of the same. Candidate Obama ran on a platform that would reform the abuse of state secrets, but President Obama’s Justice Department has disappointingly reneged on that important civil liberties issue. If this is a harbinger of things to come, it will be a long and arduous road to give us back an America we can be proud of again.”

    ww.aclu.org/safefree/torture/38695prs20090209.html

  • pm317

    gonzo, I just posted the link to the video. I think admin must have embedded it.

  • pm317

    wbboei, gonzo, about the SS.. I helped with the phone bank for Hillary here (mostly Indian families on the list and the young people were obnoxious). One young man not obnoxious but interested all the same, said he did not think anything wrong with privatizing SS. I guess he would have no problem if his parents rot in an old nursing home and he can’t/won’t take care of them. I wonder what he will do if he needed that safety net. As I have found out personally :) , you have to cross 45 to start thinking about the old age and retirement and stuff. But like you say, some of these young 0bots are really clueless.

  • NewMexicoFan

    In NM, since the Dims reign, of course they get all the jobs. The bonuses of certain key state employees are determined by how much they have supported the Gov. Sounds like a variation of Pay to Play called Play Their game, and they will Pay you extra.

    Is this going on in other state government Jobs? Somehow in the pit of my stomach, I think so.

  • NewMexicoFan

    In NM, since the Dims reign, of course they get all the jobs. The bonuses of certain key state employees are determined by how much they have supported the Gov. Sounds like a variation of Pay to Play called Play Their game, and they will Pay you extra.

    Is this going on in other state government Jobs? Somehow in the pit of my stomach, I think so.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I don’t know why that posted twice, and I only hit the botton once.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Gonzo, that is what normally happens, you post the link, and Admin will go back and embed it.

  • JanH

    basil9 Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    ——————————

    Excellent post!

  • Paula

    Interview with Hillary. Some interesting stuff in here.

    http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/02/116314.htm

  • Carol

    I have Lou dobbs on in the background.. A new poll shows BO with 75% support from Americans. I am shocked. How can this be?

  • Paula

    Carol, Right now, the American public is invested in seeing him succeed. But his ratings right now don’t matter; it’s where they are when he’s been in office a while that counts, and that will depend on what shape the county is in.

  • Paula

    I mean country, not county. Duh.

  • dot48

    carol, americans IMO have short “story” span. The flap over the Rev. Wright lasted about a week and then people just “forget” it. IMO his “support and approval” rating can’t be measured now. Give it a few more months down the road. He’s still riding the messiah note from the inaguareration

  • birdgal

    I think the polls are fixed.

  • gonzotx

    pm317 Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    **********************************8
    I have little faith in the young generation and we have no one to blame but ourselves. As a whole they are arrogant, entitled, sheltered and have a general lack of character. They are the ‘ME” GENERATION, and before anyone says anything about lumping them all in one soup, I have 2 young adults I have raised. One is extremely caring, volunteers, hard working,paid for college through an athletic scholarship, going to be a dentist, yet she too was sheltered. The other one is arrogant, entitled and selfish. I tried. I had him working from age 9. It’s true. He worked for the soccer association as a line ref. So ADD it didn’t work out past one season. Then @ age 14 I had him washing dish’s. Got terminated. Age 16 he was selling popcorn, you get the picture.
    I would trust my daughter with my life, my son? Not so much. Anyway, I don’t see the spine, the “we are all in this together mentality, save for a rainy day, work hard and respect your elders”. It isn’t there. This country is bankrupt morally. I don’t know if we can find our way back. Everyone expects something for nothing, I want my MTV…

  • gonzotx

    birdgal Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
    I think the polls are fixed.
    ******************************

    They have always been fixed for that guy, even if it’s 30% you won’t know it, GE won’t let CNN tell you.

  • JanH

    And does this poll have a breakdown of who they canvassed? Percentage of democrats? Percentage of Republicans? Percentage of AAs?

  • pm317

    jan, 70% of 0bots!

  • AmericanGal

    Other polls don’t show Obama that high–isn’t Rassmussen lower?? This is one of those cases where you have to see who was polled and what questions are asked.

    Also, Obama is still new in office–once the impact of all his decisions is felt by people on the street we won’t need anyone to take a poll to know his approval dropped..

  • AmericanGal

    Obama says the lack of bipartisanship in Washington is due to “bad habits”. Is anyone watching the press conference..

    He’s also looking for opening with Iran to have “face to face” contact

  • Southern Born

    Z-Z-Z-z-z-z-z-z Barack Obama’s news conference… He’s better than a sleep aid. When I do wake up, I hear him sounding very partisan and blaming a lot on Republicans and Bush.

    Thank you, Lord that I NEVER had to have BO as a professor in college. Listening to him for three hours a week would be bad. Now we have to listen to this droaning on and on for four years.

  • alcina

    “i inherited this economic situation” “this is not the way i had envisioned starting my presidency”
    poor, poor BO..just what the f**K did he expect? that it was going to be all hearts and flowers?

  • JanH

    pm317 Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    jan, 70% of 0bots!

    ————————–

    LMAO! How true!

  • alcina

    have you noticed that when BO attempts to pal around and schmooze with people, he lapses into his boyz-from-the-hood dialect? he makes me sick.

  • moononpluto

    “i inherited this economic situation” “this is not the way i had envisioned starting my presidency”

    WTF, we all knew he was walking into a huge fucking mess, didnt he? or what was that bailout thing a few months back, a day out in DC?

    Hey, its the Presidency dumbass, things like this can be dropped on you in a sec, if you cant handle it and get all shitty when it aint all rosy then fuck off and let Hillary do it. What did he want the job for, all he’s done is fucking moan since he got there.

  • moononpluto

    LOL, the republicans are pissed….

    Sen. Arlen Specter must feel like one lucky man today. He wasn’t in his Capitol Hill offices when MAF Chairman Melanie Morgan, Gold Star Mom Debbie Lee, Freepers and Free Republic founder Jim Robinson, and other patriotic citizens stormed his office to demand he reverse his position supporting the porkulus bill, aka the Barack-Blowing-Through- Dollars-Scheme.

    MAF, as you know, is a protroops organization, and it is our opinion that this legislation will hurt veterans’ healthcare – not to mention every other American.

    We’re really in town for our big press conference on Tuesday, when we release our commercial opposing President Obama’s decision to close Gitmo.

    But we kept ourselves busy today. Melanie was at her finest, when we arrived at Specter’s office. For those of you who don’t know Specter, he’s a flip-flopping, spineless bureacrat who calls himself a Republican. He’s also one of the traitors who supports Obama’s spendulus bill. This is why he was a target for Monday’s action, spurred by Kirstinn Taylor of Free Republic.

    Melanie and Jim Robinson asked to see the Senator. Specter’s front-office staff need to go back to kindergarten to get their manners tuned up. either that or they should go to work at Wal-Mart to pick up some tips from their greeters. A secretary, who wasn’t happy to see American patriots, refused to answer where the Senator was hiding. Jim, wearing his Navy cap, asked over and over about the Senator’s whereabouts, but the secretary wasn’t helping. It was distressing to see a Navy veteran being treated with such disrespect by a Senator’s staff.

    Well, the cold-shoulder was too much for Melanie, who decided to take matters into her own hands. She stepped to the closed door leading to Specter’s office and the offices of his staffers, and flung it open. I didn’t take notes on what she said, but it went something like this:

    “Come out! We want to talk to somebody right now!!”

    The secretary didn’t like this. “You can’t go in there,” she warned Melanie, who promptly ignored her.

    “Sombody come out here right now!!! We want to talk to you. Now!!!”

    Specter’s chief of staff had finally had enough and came out to face the American citizens who wanted to redress their government official.

    Melanie stepped toward him and unleashed a wave of complaints that hit him like a typhoon.

    Again, I didn’t take notes, but it went something like this:

    “Tell Specter to stop acting like a liberal. We are watching him and we’re not going to let him get away with this!”

    Others had a few things to add to that. Debbie Lee introduced herself and handed the chief of staff a card with her son, Marc’s, picture on it. He was the first Navy SEAL to give his life in Iraq, she explained.

    Liz Colby Harp brought her five homeschooled children so Specter could see whom he is saddling with trillions of dollars of debts. She was gracious, intelligent and dead on with her remarks.

  • ABM90

    Well there it is folks “Major Bowes Amateur Hour is back”

    All Hogwash BS and double talk.A real stomach turner.

    Messiah Obama is my name and race is my game.

    I won remember?

    Alfred Newman with a Teleprompter and pre selected questions.

    By ABM90 He gave us a choice “Swim with me or sink”

  • moononpluto

    Well that was the most rambling incoherent bullshit i ever heard, he just looks comtemptuous to be even having to do this.

    He makes Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar.

  • birdgal

    Well, I’m P*ssed. I have excellent credit, on time paying my credit card, and how does Capitalone treat me? They raise my interest rate from 6.90 to 15.9 starting in April. BoA just reduced one of my cards from 10.4 to 8.something. Suze Orman has been talking about this happening. Now, it has hit me. My federal tax return will go towards paying off this card. What are the banks doing with all the billions of money that they received from the government. They are not releasing any credit.

  • moononpluto

    Birdgal its because you dont make them any money, they are squeezing out people who pay for that reason, they need debters to stick absurd charges on. You are no use to them, they dont want you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    According to the posted Utube and other reports, Obama is planning on using another Bush tactic, “PATRONAGE”.. a recycled form of “Are You With Us OR Against Us” using JOBS as the carrot at the end of the stick.

    h… and 3ws foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/09/obama-takes-stimulus-case-nation-prime-time-press-conference/

    This is the latest AOL Poll for ‘Has your opinion of Obama changed?’
    http //webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=162150&channel=aol_us_news7&view=161868&template=1381

  • moononpluto

    and the bushisms have started to come out of his mouth

    Here’s No 1

    “Most economists almost unanimously agree…”

    ahuh, thats right up there bambi with Bushes import quote.

  • moononpluto

    Well i’m guessing the reason for the rambling, is that possibly when a question was asked, he was rambling until someone typed it up on the teleprompter, just a guess.

  • JanH

    Nevada political group launches anti-Reid Web site:

    CARSON CITY, Nev., Feb. 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ –

    A new Nevada-based organization, Independent Nevadans for Change, officially launched Sunday its political effort to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada) in 2010 with the release of its new website: DumpReid.com.

    “Democrats, Republicans and independent voters don’t often agree on much,” said longtime political activist Chuck Muth, director of the Dump Reid project, “but a growing number from all philosophical walks of life agree that it’s time to change Nevada’s senior U.S. senator.”

    Independent Nevadans for Change is an IRS 527 organization which will use the Internet to recruit opposition and raise money for TV, radio, direct mail and other traditional campaign activities for the 2010 campaign.

    The DumpReid.com website and blog was developed by Eric Odom, a web strategist and online social media expert with deep Nevada roots. Odom notes that many on the left are just as dissatisfied with Harry Reid as those on the right.

    Muth said he welcomes out-of-state efforts to oust Reid next year, but added, “We Nevadans know Harry Reid. We know the players. We know the issues. We know the electorate. And while voters around the nation understandably want to dump Harry Reid, it ultimately will have to be done by Nevadans themselves. That’s why I established this in-state group dedicated to ‘daschling’ Harry Reid next year.”

    That’s a reference to the 2004 defeat of then-Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota).

    “Dumping Harry Reid won’t be easy,” concluded Muth, “but to borrow a phrase: ‘Yes We Can!’”

    For additional information or to sign up for free email updates on the effort, visit: dumpreid.com

    msnbc.msn.com/id/29107930/

  • moononpluto

    The Telegraph – UK (someone finally said it, Biden will become Dan Quayle)

    Pity poor Joe Biden. His “there’s still a 30 percent chance we’re going to get it wrong” quote is put straight to President Barack Obama during the White House press conference just now and his boss seemed to want to say: “Vice-President Who?”

    As reporters started giggling, Obama came close to conceding that Biden was indeed a joke. “You know, I don’t remember exactly what Joe was referring to, not surprisingly.”

    The President went on to say that “I think what Joe may have been suggesting, although I wouldn’t ascribe any numerical percentage to any of this, is that given the magnitude of the challenges that we have, any single thing that we do is going to be part of the solution, not all of the solution.”

    Of course, Biden wasn’t saying anything of the sort – Obama knew that and all the rest of us did too.

    Biden’s exact quote, read out by Fox’s Major Garrett at the presser was: “If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, if we stand up there and we really make the tough decisions, there’s still a 30 percent chance we’re going to get it wrong.”

    Clearly, Obama and his aides were unhappy about Biden’s loose lips. On Friday, top Obama adviser David Axelrod said on CNN: “I don’t know exactly about what that math was.”

    We’re probably going to have to get used to Obama explaining “what Joe may have been suggesting”. And Biden must be wondering if he’s going to end up as a Dan Quayle figure.

  • moononpluto

    He also laughed (discredited) Biden’s quote. VERY disrespectful. He pawns him off like the ‘town idiot’ (which he IS) but Unbelievable, dissed the VP live on air.

    ***Couldn’t believe I heard that. Poor Biden has tire tread marks on his face. So many people under the bus in so little time…***

  • Emjay

    Wbboei

    Here he is, in all his vain glory:

    cspan .org/ Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-R-15267

  • moononpluto

    This was Jimmy Carter Act II. He’s lost, he knows he’s lost, his handlers know he’s lost and the show starts to convince the world he’s lost.

  • moononpluto

    best quote of the night on Bambi’s presser

    WDoes anyone find it unusual that he is on channel 2,4,5,7,13 Fox, MSNBC,CNN, etc, etc. Yet He’s not on the “Cartoon Network” and that’s where he belongs.”

    ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Emjay

    Follow the bounced ball – first Tom-Tom Daschle in South Dakota…then Har-Har E Reid in Nevada.

    Really ya’ll, you have no idea how much Tom-Tom was disliked out here in fly-over country

  • jbstonesfan

    His “press conference” was nothing more than a prepared text with a few softball questions thrown in between. I dislike him and distrust him, but would be a fool to underestimate his appeal and popularity to a hurting country. BO will get a much needed bump from this and the Bill will pass. However, in less than two (2) weeks he used up a lot of what they call “political capital” and he will have a hard time on almost every piece of major legislation he seeks to enact. Thankfully, Hillary is running the SOS diligently, professionally, and calmly, so BO can focus almost 100% on the economy. Without Hillary, he would have to rely on Joe Biden, a good guy, but not so good VP.

  • wbboei

    75% is very low. typically lou polls run between 97 and 99%’ relax its all bullshit.

  • JanH

    teleprompter 1 – obama 0

  • wbboei

    Kreskin prediction 39:

    “Hillary Clinton will be seriously encouraged to run for the Presidency in 2012. If President Barack Obama doesn’t win a second term, the cause will be Hillary Clinton”.

    N.B. Over a period of 40 years, Kreskin has been consistently right.

    (Source: Huff and Puff 12/31/08)

  • ShortTermer

    Any one here know a person we all admire and love that started a driveway maintenance business at age 14? Hint: he is much better looking at his current age.

  • wbboei

    Any one here know a person we all admire and love that started a driveway maintenance business at age 14? Hint: he is much better looking at his current age.
    ———————-
    just a wild guess . . . the future governor of Virginia.

  • wbboei

    My sense of it is this: he has made a binding commitment to solve the problem and congress has given him the bill he wants. Therefore he is on the hook to produce or else. If there is a supervening catastrophe that could buy him a year but no more. It is too early for the public to turn. The novelty has not yet worn off– but it will. And fundamental fairness requires he be given a chance. But if he fails to deliver–which is likely and if the situation gets worse-which is also likely, then he is toast. At that point the reason for failure will matter not a farthing.

  • djia

    UH OH……… KARMA ???

    EXCLUSIVE: FBI Raided Lobbying Firm Connected to Murtha
    Feds Narrowing In On Companies With Ties To Congressman

    By EMMA SCHWARTZ and JUSTIN ROOD
    February 9, 2009

    The FBI raided the offices of a defense lobbying firm with close ties to Democratic Rep. John Murtha (Penn.), sources tell ABC News.

    The FBI searched the Virginia headquarters of the PMA Group in November, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. PMA was founded by former Murtha aide Paul Magliochetti and specializes in winning earmarked taxpayer funds for its clients.

    Good government groups have long criticized Murtha’s cozy relationship with a handful of lobbyists and defense firms, ties that see millions of dollars in government spending go out from Murtha’s office, and hundreds of thousands in campaign donations come in. Murtha has said his earmarking has helped revive his economically depressed district.

    PMA is the second company with close ties to Murtha to be raided by federal agents recently. In January, agents from the FBI, the IRS and the Defense Criminal Investigative Service searched the office of Kuchera Industries and Kuchera Defense Systems, as well as the homes of the firms’ founders. The companies reportedly have received over $100 million in earmarks, thanks to Murtha’s efforts.

    abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6840438&page=1

  • turndownobama-com

    We’re probably going to have to get used to Obama explaining “what Joe may have been suggesting”.

    ================

    Ah. WORMAWBRM.

  • turndownobama-com

    wbboei Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I am guessing it will be when the Huckster makes good on changing Social Security. Maybe then the anger will spew forth and stopping him can begin.
    ————————
    Bush tried and failed. So will Obama. Let us hope this becomes his Waterloo. One of many.

    =============================

    In the late 90s the GOP tried to let people put their money into the stock market instead of into SS. Then the stock market crashed and some people saw what a bad idea that was.

    Now the stock market is crashing already, so they’re going to try to get the SS money to bail it out?

  • turndownobama-com

    mj Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    It is not fruitful to engage in detailed discussions or dreamy discussions about what we want or about what Obama says – because we don’t believe anything he says anyway.

    ==============

    Well said!

    (I’m reading backwards up the thread so I don’t know what I’m stepping into.)

  • Mrs. Smith

    So, let me see if I have this straight-

    We needed this Stimulus for Job creation.

    We needed the TARP to rescue the Banks from eminent collapse of the Banking System.

    The second half of the Bush Bail-Out Money $350B is to Rescue Home Owners. (at least that was the rumor.) Because “OUT OF FEAR”? The same “Fear” Bush created of an imminent attack from Iraq?

    Now I just read this:

    How Geithner Plans to Revise the Tarp

    by Jane Sasseen

    While President Barack Obama gave his first prime time press conference tonight, his aides were up on Capital Hill outlining Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s plans for revising the agency’s troubled financial rescue program, known as the TARP.

    Though he fielded several questions about the much anticipated Treasury plan, which Geithner will outline tomorrow in an 11 AM speech, President Obama was careful to stick to generalities, joking that he didn’t want to upstage Geithner. Looking around the overflow crowd of reporters who showed up for his East Room press conference, he also playfully suggested they all be sure to show up for Geithner’s debut press conference at Treasury tomorrow.

    Despite his discretion, however, details of what Geithner will propose began to circulate almost as soon as the Treasury’s Capitol Hill briefings ended. Details follow, according to several people briefed on the meetings.

    Of the $350 billion that remains of the funds from last fall’s Troubled Asset Relief Program,or TARP, Geithner will propose spending it along the following lines:

    1) $50 Billion for mortgage loan modifications

    2) $100 Billion to expand the Fed’s TALF program, which is used to guarantee asset-backed securities; that sum will be leveraged up to $1 trillion using additional financing. The aim is to get frozen markets for securitized consumer debt, such as credit card, auto loans and student loans, working again. The program will also be expanded to include commercial mortgages and other assets.

    3) $100 Billion to set up a facility to purchase distressed assets (the “bad bank” idea), which will be combined with additional leverage to relieve the banks of up to $500 billion in toxic assets.(Why do we have to purchase these if NO ONE wants them?)

    4) $100 Billion for further capital injections into the banks.

    In addition, Treasury sources told Capital Hill staffers it may take up to another two weeks to finalize the new plans to improve foreclosure relief.

    And apparently left unanswered were questions about whether Treasury will convert the preferred stakes it has taken in the banks (or could take in the future) into common shares, which would dilute current shareholders.

    It also remains unclear whether Treasury will end the preferred dividends it is now receiving, which critics say are proving onerous for the struggling banks.

    Also, no word on whether insurers will be included in the revised TARP, or whether any easing of mark-to-market accounting will be suggested.

    Which insurers are these? Insurance companies? And the Home Owners get the short end of the stick? While the Banks get the bulk of the remainder of the TARP Money?

    http // 3w’s businessweek.com/blogs/money_politics/archives/2009/02/financial_rescu.html

  • turndownobama-com

    1) $50 Billion for mortgage loan modifications
    ….
    3) $100 Billion to set up a facility to purchase distressed assets (the “bad bank” idea), which will be combined with additional leverage to relieve the banks of up to $500 billion in toxic assets.(Why do we have to purchase these if NO ONE wants them?)

    ===================

    Mortgage relief might be described this way.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Mortgage relief might be described this way.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The point is, the bulk of the money is going to Banks rather than People.

    That is just plain wrong!

  • turndownobama-com

    Mrs. Smith Says:

    tdo said: Mortgage relief might be described this way. [ #1 and #3 ]
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The point is, the bulk of the money is going to Banks rather than People.

    ============

    Hillary’s Home Owner’s Loan Corp (modeled on FDR’s) paid money to the banks to purchase the loans, so they could re-write them at better terms for the home owners.

    If a mortgage is too high for the homeowner to pay, giving the homeowner money to make a few more payments will not help. You need to buy the whole mortgage from the mortgage holder at a discount. As government, you can get a much better discount than the homeowner could, even if you gave him the money in a lump.

    Whether Summers and Geithner will succeed in getting something good past Obama is another question. And #2 and #4 really don’t seem to have anything to do with helping the homeowners.

  • turndownobama-com

    Obama Approval Index History
    Date – Presidential Approval Index
    2/8/2009 – 11
    2/7/2009 – 14
    2/6/2009 – 17
    2/5/2009 – 19
    2/4/2009 – 18
    2/3/2009 – 15
    2/2/2009 – 17
    2/1/2009 – 21
    1/31/2009 – 23
    1/30/2009 – 21
    1/29/2009 – 22
    1/28/2009 – 22
    1/27/2009 – 23
    1/26/2009 – 21
    1/25/2009 – 22
    1/24/2009 – 26
    1/23/2009 – 29
    1/22/2009 – 30
    1/21/2009 – 28
    h…….w’s
    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

  • Mrs. Smith

    Hillary’s Home Owner’s Loan Corp (modeled on FDR’s) paid money to the banks to purchase the loans, so they could re-write them at better terms for the home owners.

    If a mortgage is too high for the homeowner to pay, giving the homeowner money to make a few more payments will not help. You need to buy the whole mortgage from the mortgage holder at a discount. As government, you can get a much better discount than the homeowner could, even if you gave him the money in a lump.

    Whether Summers and Geithner will succeed in getting something good past Obama is another question. And #2 and #4 really don’t seem to have anything to do with helping the homeowners.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Your statement is a little confused. Just to clarify:

    Hillary’s Help for Homeowners was to freeze the loan for 5yrs giving the economy time to recover.

    “If a mortgage is too high for the homeowner to pay, giving the homeowner money to make a few more payments will not help. You need to buy the whole mortgage from the mortgage holder at a discount. As government, you can get a much better discount than the homeowner could, even if you gave him the money in a lump.”

    No one is suggesting giving the homeowner a lump sum of money to fix his mortgage. The Stimulus package is not designated for Home-owner Help. It’s designated for retrofitting State and Municipality infrastructure..

    A substantial portion of the TARP is available for Homeowners.

    The idea of loan modification and it’s implemetation will be comming from Bush’s First Bail Out, TARP. Which originaly was $750B. Half of those funds have been delivered as the Bank Bailout and for shoring up AIG. We expected the balance of those funds, about $350B to be allocated to Help distressed Homeowners, (where they have ignored Hillary’s suggestion of a mortgage freeze), for Loan Modification, restructuring the loan making it affordable to the consumer with the government absorbing enough of the overflow debt until the mortgage payment is reduced to a number the homeowner can afford.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Geithner and Summers act in tandem with Obama. It’s Obama’s show. He’s the Boss!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Just to add to the above in case the point has been lost .

    There is $350B available of the TARP Funds for distribution, yet they are only allocating $50B of it for helping People.

    Obama is talking through his ass. Maybe he doesn’t reaslize how many business people see through him for not knowing what the hell he’s talking about. The excuses given in his latest speech is the equivalent of him attempting to sell Ice to the Eskimos and them reacting by ROFLTAO!

  • JanH

    Financial bailout expected to rely on private investors

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s plan reportedly limits the losses of firms willing to buy bad loans to lighten the woes of banks.

    By Walter Hamilton and Maura Reynolds
    February 10, 2009

    To rid banks of their toxic loans, the Obama administration apparently wants to rely on purchases of those assets by private investors — but with the government’s help.

    Whether investors will step up depends on how favorable Uncle Sam makes the terms. And the better for them, conceivably, the worse for taxpayers.

    Today, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner is set to announce the administration’s plan for Phase 2 of the $700-billion financial system bailout enacted in the fall.

    Administration officials say the plan will have programs to clean up bank balance sheets, restart lending to consumers and businesses and mitigate home foreclosures for creditworthy borrowers.

    To limit taxpayers’ exposure to risky assets, Geithner is expected to outline what officials are calling a public-private partnership.

    The initiative will “bring the full force of the federal government together in partnership with the private sector to stabilize our financial system and open up the flow of credit that families and businesses depend on to keep our economy strong,” an administration official said.

    In a news conference Monday evening, President Obama, providing no details of the revamped plan, suggested that the goal was to restore confidence in the financial system.

    “Ultimately the government cannot substitute for all the private capital that has been withdrawn from the system,” he said. “We’ve got to restore confidence so that private capital goes back in.”

    The White House had been looking at creating a government-run “bad bank” to vacuum up toxic assets. But that may have been judged too unwieldy or expensive, at least in terms of initial outlays.

    So a central element of the new effort reportedly has the government offering some level of guarantee to hedge funds, private equity firms and other investors that agree to buy troubled assets from banks. For example, the Treasury could put a floor under the value of the assets, ensuring that investors’ losses couldn’t exceed a set amount.

    Purchases by private investors could help banks dispose of rotting loans that have long clogged their balance sheets, freeing them — in theory — to attract fresh capital, boost lending and spur the economy.

    The administration’s concept “is pretty attractive,” said Steven Persky, chief executive of Dalton Investments, a West Los Angeles-based hedge fund firm that launched a fund focusing on distressed residential-mortgage securities last summer.

    “If they’re doing things like guaranteeing a floor or providing very cheap non-recourse financing, that will be very effective in terms of [coaxing investors into] buying securities and starting to unfreeze the system,” Persky said.

    The success of the new plan will rest in part on whether the government can convince investors that it will stick with the idea rather than switching gears as it has with other bailout efforts since the fall.

    “What’s necessary is a sense that the rules are going to be reasonably constant,” said Tad Rivelle, chief investment officer at Metropolitan West Asset Management in L.A. What’s unclear is how much this plan might ultimately cost the government, and therefore taxpayers.

    One fear is that the plan could help a relative handful of private investors pick up appealing assets at favorable prices, while leaving the government with all the dreck “and taxpayers with all the losses,” said Julia Whitehead, president of Whitehead Miller Advisors Inc.

    latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-fi-toxic-assets10-2009feb10,0,1214199.story

  • JanH

    FEBRUARY 10, 2009 Banks to Get Stress Test Before Aid. As Part of Revamped Bailout, Cash Will Go to Those Deemed Healthy Enough to

    By DEBORAH SOLOMON and DAMIAN PALETTA

    WASHINGTON — Many U.S. banks will be subjected to rigorous examinations to see if they are healthy enough to lend before receiving additional financial aid, according to people familiar with the matter.

    The stress tests will be part of the bailout revamp to be announced Tuesday by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. In addition to fresh capital injections into banks, the new approach will include programs to help struggling homeowners; a significant expansion of a Federal Reserve program designed to jump-start consumer lending; and a private-public partnership to relieve banks of bad assets.

    Mr. Geithner is expected to present the moves as a multi-pronged effort to encourage financial institutions to lend again. The administration’s goal is to unfreeze dysfunctional credit markets that have dragged the economy into a recession. He will also announce new conditions on banks receiving aid, including documenting how the money is helping to generate new loans.

    The expanded effort could see as much as $2 trillion in financing flowing through the system, according to Congressional officials briefed Monday night. The expanded Fed facility and the “bad bank” could each reach $1 trillion in size, both of which would be seeded with bailout funds.

    The administration is discussing spending between $100 billion and $200 billion investing new funds in banks, up to $100 billion to expand the Federal Reserve facility and $50 billion to help homeowners. The Treasury wants to keep some money available in case of emergencies. These commitments could eat up much of the second half of the $700 billion bailout fund.

    The Obama administration’s initial attempt to sell the plan got off to a rocky start on Capitol Hill Monday evening in briefings with House and Senate staffers. Officials told packed meetings Mr. Geithner would lay out a framework Tuesday for the financial rescue. But a lack of detail was met with skepticism as staffers pressed for more information.

    Rep. Brad Sherman (D., Calif.) asked officials how much taxpayers could be on the hook if the situation in the financial system was to further erode. “I appreciate your filibuster, but that’s the other side of the Capitol,” Mr. Sherman told the Obama officials, according to a person at the briefing.

    In a press conference Monday night, President Obama said: “We don’t know whether we need additional money or how much we need, until we see how successful we are in restoring confidence.”

    In an attempt to cast the program in a new light, the administration is renaming the Troubled Asset Relief Program the Financial Stability Plan. The program will remain a part of Treasury but may eventually be separated.

    One of the biggest criticisms of the bailout is that banks receiving aid have sat on the funds instead of loaning them to businesses and consumers. The new bank examinations are designed to ensure that banks that are in need of money but still healthy enough to lend, receive cash. The examinations will be mandatory for banks with assets exceeding $100 billion

    As the Senate is poised to pass the stimulus plan, Treasury prepares to announce a revamped banking-industry rescue and enlist the Fed to jump-start lending.

    The move could address disagreements between bank regulators about the viability of scores of institutions. Regulators have struggled to come up with a common set of criteria for deciding which banks should receive money. Setting up a stress test could create a more objective set of standards, which might reveal the depths of the industry’s problems.

    Banks have complained that the process for applying for bailout funds is arbitrary. At least two that applied, National Bank of Commerce in Illinois and County Bank in California, were denied by the government and failed. Research firm RBC Capital Markets estimated Monday that more than 1,000 banks could fail in the next three to five years, more than triple its previous estimates.

    Mr. Geithner will also unveil a host of new conditions for banks that receive government aid, including requiring that firms show how the money is being spent and how funds are helping to generate new lending. Banks must show how many new loans they provided with the assistance and how many assets they purchased. They must also agree to implement foreclosure mitigation programs, curb executive pay and not use the funds to purchase healthy banks until the government money is repaid.

    The administration is still finalizing details of its a housing plan — which centers on financial incentives for mortgage companies to modify bad loans — and may not get into specifics Tuesday. It is expected to express support for a legislative proposal that would allow judges to alter the terms of troubled mortgages in bankruptcy court, but only if borrowers tried to have their loans modified.

    Another leg of the revamp, a “bad bank” that would buy up toxic assets fouling the financial system, received a cautious welcome on Wall Street. The administration, hoping to avoid spending large sums of taxpayer money, wants the private sector to largely fund the effort. To entice investor participation, the government would limit the risk associated with buying the

    wsj.com/article/SB123420518851764681.html

  • neetabug

    Hi everyone

    I see Chicago is listed on Yahoo as the third most miserable cities. High unemployment, plus corruption.

    Guess who is from Chicago

  • rgb44hrc

    MORE APPROPRIATE ALTERNATE NAMES FOR THE “STIMULUS” PACKAGE:

    Shamulus package
    Stinkulus package
    Scamulus package

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Purchases by private investors could help banks dispose of rotting loans that have long clogged their balance sheets, freeing them — in theory — to attract fresh capital, boost lending and spur the economy.

    The administration’s concept “is pretty attractive,” said Steven Persky, chief executive of Dalton Investments, a West Los Angeles-based hedge fund firm that launched a fund focusing on distressed residential-mortgage securities last summer.

    “If they’re doing things like guaranteeing a floor or providing very cheap non-recourse financing, that will be very effective in terms of [coaxing investors into] buying securities and starting to unfreeze the system,” Persky said.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It’s a SAD Day when the government is willing to bend over backwards for Hedge Funds and Banks, bailing them out of their gambling debts. When the Tax Payer wasn’t on board for sharing in the profit.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Good morning. Looks like the only risk takers in this country are the little people, as Leona Helmsley said who pay the taxes.

    She sure got that right So if we pay our taxes, and take the risk, then why are we not up in arms when they did not pay attention to the propular vote. What does that make us look like.

    Mrs. Smith, you are exactly right about questioning the fact we did not share in the profit. As we all know, it was LBJ that started borrowing from the SS with no guarantee on replacing it. In fact he stole our money, as that was designated money. Now they tell us SS is an entitlement program. Our government, and political parties obviously do not work for us.

  • basil9

    Thanks, Jan.

    basil9 Says:
    February 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    ——————————
    Excellent post!
    There was more but the post was already long.

    BTW – anyone else think BHO wears mascara, brow pencil and lip gloss???????? he is one strange looking mfer.

  • AmericanGal

    Don’t know if this has been posted but it’s a good overview of the first 3 weeks of the Obama presidency and the trends that are showing up in his decision making…

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/change_the_first_three_weeks_1.html

  • AmericanGal

    Don’t know if this has been posted but it’s a good overview of the first 3 weeks of the Obama presidency and the trends that are showing up in his decision making…

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/change_the_first_three_weeks_1.html

  • basil9

    I heard a very enlightening real-world comparison of the barackulis bill on talk radio, yesterday.

    While I am not ‘christian,’ this was jaw-dropping.

    If you spent a million dollars a day from the date of Jesus Christ’s birth until today you still would not have reached 800+ billion.

    :shock:

  • curiosityhasme

    Admin:

    Do you have details on the Healthcare provisions buried within the slamulus pkg? All we heard in teleprompter exercise was about “efficiency” with medical records and “how nurses couldn’t read the doctor’s prescriptions.”

    He forgot the controversial elements – straight out of Daschle’s book and the EU playbook, didn’t he? There are specific protocols for treatment, with zero variation for treatment – therefore the “nationalizing” of healthcare.

    Not exactly what the Blue Dog Dems nor the clueless Dims) had in mind. So much for your elderly parents being adequately taken care of…let them die off and pump all the money into the voting “youth.” May as well turn all acute care centers into hospice if essentially not able to have medications and treatments to maintain quality of life for geriatric patients. The elite are all exempt from this, however, as they have taken care of each other with paybacks not just under the table but proudly across the table as we ow see.

    Mon Dieu! Mon Dieu! Look what the caring, bleeding-hearts have done to finish off the Greatest Generation, and hastening the early demise of the Baby Boomers.

    Mad as Hell – Not Getting in Line – Not Shutting Up

  • rgb44hrc

    Obama on the road to ruin. I like that.

    Hey admin, “Road to Ruin” is a Ramones album, which I have and have played loud, some big hits, and the lesser well songs are great too:

    “I Just Want to Have Something to Do” (Ramones) – 2:42
    “I Wanted Everything” (Ramones) – 3:18
    “Don’t Come Close” (Ramones) – 2:44
    “I Don’t Want You” (Ramones) – 2:26
    “Needles and Pins” (Sonny Bono / Jack Nitzsche) – 2:21
    “I’m Against It” (Ramones) – 2:07
    “I Wanna Be Sedated” (Ramones) – 2:29
    “Go Mental” (Ramones) – 2:42
    “Questioningly” (Ramones) – 3:22
    “She’s the One” (Ramones) – 2:13
    “Bad Brain” (Ramones) – 2:25
    “It’s a Long Way Back” (Ramones) – 2:20

  • marie3548

    Heard about this on Foxnews this morning Bill and Meghan talking about this flying under the radar this needs immediate action from everyone.

    canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8345

    Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits?

    SNIP-
    To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:
    First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up.

    The so-called “Stimulus Bill” has in it a provision to establish a “National Coordinator of Health Information Technology.” The Coordinator would primarily establish cost cutting guidelines that doctors would be bound to follow or face penalties determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

    A lot of the health policies that somehow made their way into a package that’s purported to deal with “economic stimulus” were written with the advice of Tom Daschle (no, evil doesn’t just walk away). Daschle’s book on health care states that seniors should sacrifice advancements in care so that resources can be spent primarily on the young. The free market system that values and encourages advancements for young and old alike has no place in the heart of a man who, were it not for a matter of back taxes, would have fancied himself the Grinch Who Stole Healthcare

    That resilience in fighting disease has helped save the lives of many tens of thousands who’ve received dire prognoses from doctors is of no interest to Daschle. Nor is the fact that smart Europeans do not just give up. They seek alternative treatments, something that do in part because of the fact that their standard medical system is too inadequate to be relied upon.
    Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill
    And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy. We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.
    Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill. And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss. We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be. Our nation was founded on better morals than this.
    The Democrats have declared war on the elderly. And they will suffer the shame of history as a result.
    These are not compassionate people. These are not good people. These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are.

  • djia

    FROM THE LINK HEADLINING DRUDGE RIGHT NOW:

    Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey
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    Commentary by Betsy McCaughey

    Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) — Republican Senators are questioning whether President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill contains the right mix of tax breaks and cash infusions to jump-start the economy.

    Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion.

    These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

    Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).

    The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

    But the bill goes further.

    One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

    The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

    SNIP

    New Penalties

    Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

    What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.

    The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

    Elderly Hardest Hit

    Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

    SNIP

    Hidden Provisions

    If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

    The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).

    Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”

    More Scrutiny Needed

    On Friday, President Obama called it “inexcusable and irresponsible” for senators to delay passing the stimulus bill. In truth, this bill needs more scrutiny.

    The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry. Imagine limiting growth and innovation in the electronics or auto industry during this downturn. This stimulus is dangerous to your health and the economy.

    (Betsy McCaughey is former lieutenant governor of New York and is an adjunct senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. The opinions expressed are her own.)

    To contact the writer of this column: Betsy McCaughey at Betsymross@aol.com

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

  • marie3548

    Everyone needs to call, fax, email their senators about this.
    U. S. Senate
    Melt the lines!
    Toll free capital switchboard numbers are:
    800-965-4701
    800-828-0498
    Call/fax/email your senator about this!

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
    Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey

  • admin

    CuriosityHasMe, the new article will deal with the latest healthcare situation.

    Rgb44hrc, for you (the only way to tolerate Obama):

  • djia

    ANOTHER GOVERNMENT INTRUSION IN THE STIMULUS:

    iht.com/articles/2009/02/10/technology/10grid.php

    SNIP
    The stimulus bill now going to a House-Senate conference committee has allocated $4.4 billion for “smart” technologies, including four million of these next-generation monitors, called smart meters. Proponents say that could make more effective use of existing power lines and generate employment.

    SNIP

    “Smart grid” is the new buzz phrase in the electric business, encompassing a variety of approaches that involve more communication between utility operators and components of the grid, including transformers, power lines, customer meters and even home appliances like dishwashers.
    Today in Technology & Media
    Disney and DreamWorks form partnership
    Technology’s fingerprints on the stimulus bill
    Google taking a step into power metering

    “They’ve been putting a chip in your dishwasher for a long time that would allow you to run it any time you want,” said Rick Sergel, chief executive of the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, an industry group that sets operating standards for the grid.

    If the utility could “talk” to the dishwasher, it might tell the machine to run at 2 a.m. and not 2 p.m., or it might tell the homeowner how much money would be saved by running the dishwasher at a different hour.

    “It provides an opportunity to create dancing partners that will help the system balance itself,” he said.

    It also might be useful for plug-in hybrid cars, which will draw significant amounts of energy, perhaps doubling the electric demand of a small household. A smart grid would recognize the car wherever it was plugged in, the way a cellphone network recognizes a mobile phone when it is turned on.

    The grid could bill the owner of the car for recharging the battery no matter where the car was plugged in. It would charge the owner a rate based on the time of day or night. If the car were left plugged in, the grid could decide when to charge it at the lowest rate.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Just looking at the AOL non scientific Polling on O. It says that 23% did not watch his speech, and 42% really did not like what he had to say. In addition, 48% says their opinions of him have worsened.

    So 35% did watch his speech, and are still drinking the kook aid.

  • djia

    curiosityhasme Says:
    February 10th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Mad as Hell – Not Getting in Line – Not Shutting Up

    *************************************

    That should be apart of our new mantra here at big pink don’t ya think!

    HILLARY IS 44 – ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!
    mad as hell – not getting in line- not shutting up!

  • djia

    Malkin had some updates on this health issue in the stimulus on her site:

    2/10 9:54am Eastern update. Arlen Specter was just on Fox responding to questions about these intrusive provisions. He mumbled that he would make sure that they were “clarified” and “corrected” and that we could be “rest assured” that he would prevent new federal bureaucrats from dictating medical treatments. He complained that the bill didn’t have proper hearings and bemoaned the “rush to judgment” — which he helped lead.

    2/10 10:05am Eastern update. Democrat Sen. Jon Tester was just grilled about these provisions. He blubbered like Specter that he wasn’t aware of them: “The language will be fixed if it’s in there.” Buffoonery.

  • wbboei

    AmericanGal: excellent account of his carteresque first three weeks in office in that American Thinker article you posted above. The conclusion was particularly good:

    President Obama also said many words in these first 20 days: press conferences, speeches and op-ed pieces, but I left these out of the above list in order to concentrate on actions rather than words. (To my knowledge, Obama did not complete another autobiography in the last three weeks.)

    I probably missed a few things, but I think you get the drift. Undo whatever Bush did. Expect appointees to obey the law–with a mulligan given for first-time offenses less than $128,000. Pay back Democratic special interests like unions, trial lawyers and Planned Parenthood. Define “bipartisanship” as inviting Republicans to lunch and telling them, “I won.” Spend really, really huge amounts of other people’s money. Make terrorism a law enforcement issue instead of a national defense issue. And watch terrorists and nuclear proliferators be released, from Pakistan to Yemen to Gitmo.

    President Obama has lived up to my expectations.

    I believe these first 21 days could best be summarized in the immortal words of Mark Steyn, who said, “We have nothing to hope for but hope itself.”

  • birdgal

    What else is hidden in the bill? Sounds like they have thrown everything into it, including the kitchen sink.

  • wbboei

    2/10 10:05am Eastern update. Democrat Sen. Jon Tester was just grilled about these provisions. He blubbered like Specter that he wasn’t aware of them: “The language will be fixed if it’s in there.” Buffoonery
    ————————–
    Disappointing. Wasnt aware of them? Did he perchance read the bill? Yet he goes on national television to defend it. I thought more of him.

  • wbboei

    Just looking at the AOL non scientific Polling on O. It says that 23% did not watch his speech, and 42% really did not like what he had to say. In addition, 48% says their opinions of him have worsened.

    So 35% did watch his speech, and are still drinking the kook aid.
    ——————————————-
    If we were sitting around Jonestown and said drink the koolaid that 35% would do it and be rewarded with twenty virgins or however that Muslim prescription goes. What I am saying is I think that is a hard number. It is the remaining 65% that is starting to show signs of disappointment, distrust and dispair over his policies. If I am right and two out of three people are not happy with this speech and this program which are the centerpiece of his presidency how much better will they feel when they find it does not work and get a sense of the collateral damage. And when big media senses that the people do not like it they can either continue their worshipful ways which is likely or become a devils advocate which is less likely because they are nothing more than his butboys and butgirls. But as we have seen the foreign media is unwilling to assume the position.

  • birdgal

    How can someone vote on a bill, and not know what is in it? This is the height of hypocrisy and incompetence. Rush, Rush to pass it, even if people do not know what it contains.

  • moononpluto

    U.S. president makes his second ‘Obama-ism’ by bumping his head trying to get into a helicopter

    lololololo, what a dick

    He may have been elected as U.S. president by promising the American people change but Barack Obama is starting to look like his predecessor George Bush.

    Not for his policy decisions but a growing list of mishaps being dubbed ‘Obama-isms’.

    While boarding a helicopter at the White House today the head of state waved goodbye and then misjudged either his height or the size of the door and bumped his head trying to get in it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1140127/Ouch-U-S-president-makes-second-Obama-ism-bumps-head-trying-helicopter.html

  • NewMexicoFan

    There is an old saying HASTE MAKES WASTE, and that is what we have here. Certainly we are in a critical situation, but if we don’t make the right decisions now, we will just throw more money, which we don’t have, at it later.

    Oh Also be careful of leaders or people saying Trust Me. You usually can’t.

    A person who is leading a bipartisen group does the following:

    1. All sides are in on the creation of the plan or document, so they have knowledge and buy in. (Open in above board)

    2. You present it to the group, ask for more questions, resolve the issues, and gain everyones participation.

    Do you remember when McCain was called out about an affair. He held a press conference, answer each and every questions, and said he would stay for more. The issue went away.

    McCain was a leader.

  • curiosityhasme

    dija:

    I may as well be dressed in purple and wearing a red hat….Haven’t read confloyd lately, but as a nurse – this heathcare “fix” sounds like it’s right out of Boys From Brazile (Donna?).

    This New World Order in treating “disposable” geriatrics as the old lab mice that need to be thrown out with the gargage is more heartless than Kavorkian. At least the good doctor was “honoring” wishes of those who were able to MAKE a decision. So….all this lip service to the Veterans is just that, too. Don’t think for a minute that they will be treated any differently. If anything, they are “used up” too. Doctors will also be “rewarded” or “punished” for getting on board. They may be Mad as Hell, but they WILL get in line and they WILL shut up……or else…………..

    Next target? The Baby Boomers. The way they will “explain” the slippage in the decline of longevity for this demographic will be the “lifestyle.” The “sedentary lifestyle and high incidence of obesity, smoking and drug use” will be part of the data coming out of the Census Grab currently underway. Statistical manipulation. Duh…

    Once this is in place (Thanks Spector, Collins, Snowe), then the next step will be gutting Social Security. For the money savings expected with killing off the elderly and Baby Boomers, that will help cover those meager payments, reparations, whatever you want to call it – along with fields of “gray or grey” Volkwagens the “comrades” may obtain for a booklet documented with “good behavior”, in typical Hitler fashion.

    For those of you who have wondered why I mention the VW story often – here’s why, speaking of geriatrics:

    Some time back, I had an 88-year old lovely female patient (Jewish) German from Dresden – branded number and all – who confided to me after taking care of her for quite some time, that “Hitler really wasn’t so bad…if you were good and were able to fill up a book with good behavior, you were given a Volkswagen,” as in a wagon for ‘the folks.’ Something about hearing her description of life then, and her escape in first person, the ULTIMATE historical primary source, only to unbelievably STILL be brainwashed as an 88 year-old, will never leave me. The remnants of the mind control NEVER leaves.

    Yep….kill off everyone over 50 asap and pave the way for the New World Order. Void of religion, free market enterprise, overturning the first and second amendments on the agenda……starting to be glad I “knew the USA” back in the day…………..

  • NewMexicoFan

    OK, I just have to say it. I think the House and Senate should pay the internet people who actually read the document.

  • marie3548

    Oh isnt that what Barky accused Hillary of during the campaign voting on a bill and not knowing the contents.

    This was a big topic on Rush’s show yesterday I think this is how it got out it was slipped in there on Saturday nite. I guess they cant be trusted to work late. What a bunch of hypocrits Arlen is a senior and Teddy and they both probably used choices or the ability to choose and we paid for it.

  • marie3548

    NewMexicoFan Says:

    February 10th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Thats funny were are doing our job.

  • wbboei

    This has certain elements of shock doctrine to it. Collapse the economy, loot the treasury, suspend civil liberties (FISA, etc), collapse borders and let corrupt contractors and financial thieves feed at the public trough. I see the broad outlines of that program here. At this point, the details are elusive and may never be fully revealed. My great concern–hopefully unfounded is that Obama represents the programatic destruction of the middle class. But time will tell.

  • djia

    $150 million for repair and construction at land border ports of entry.

    Is this to keep the illegals out or US IN???

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ Has a huge list of whats in porkulus……check it out!

  • marie3548

    curiosityhasme Says:

    February 10th, 2009 at 11:21 am
    dija:

    The remnants of the mind control NEVER leaves.

    That is so true.

    Obots are a good example of the past repeating itself not in the same sense but just an example of mind control. It must really hurt to think for yourself I live with an Obot who wants to take up for this guy at every turn He is the President why does he need everyone to defend him the most powerful job in the world and they have to speak up for him.

    This shit is ironic, delusional and he is a fraudulent person.This is a joke of a presidency and its just beginning.

    He has so much hatred for ordinary people as he puts it.

    To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:
    First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Marie3548

    First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
    Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up.

    HOW TRUE.

  • pm317

    wbboei Says:
    February 10th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Just looking at the AOL non scientific Polling on O. It says that 23% did not watch his speech, and 42% really did not like what he had to say. In addition, 48% says their opinions of him have worsened.

    So 35% did watch his speech, and are still drinking the kook aid.
    ————————————

    I was just out of curiosity digging around the Internet on Kriskin and his predictions. He has said something about Hillary being elected in 2012.

    My theory about this is that, majority recognized that Hillary was a well qualified candidate but got sold the narrative from the media and other crooks that this new phenomenon called 0bama should be given a chance and Hillary was a safe (but boring) choice. So they went with the American Idol. But if 0bama does not deliver which is very likely, the public (all 18 million+ who voted for her and some Repubs) will turn to their original choice in 2012 they were goaded to ignore. WH changing party hands will still not happen — even Repubs are not enthused about themselves and that will continue for 2012. So how do we make amends for all the bamboozling? Tell the Messiah he had his chance and did not measure up. There will be a public outcry and the party people will also realize that by having Hillary and a younger white male in 2012, they can continue to hold the WH for another 16 years. The people who put 0bama in the WH now can just as easily take it away from him. The question is what straw will break that camel?

  • curiosityhasme

    marie3548:

    The paraphrase of Martin Niemoller says it all, doesn’t it?

    That’s EXACTLY what we have been trying to say the the Obamabots and “youth” for well over a year – to no avail. THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT TO STAND UP FOR THEM.

    And the two things certain in life – death and taxes – will not escape the young and Dimocrats….well, scratch the taxes part. I think we see now who does and who does NOT pay taxes…………….however…….the indestructible, larger than life, bulletproof youth will always think they are immortal.

    They are in for a far worse life than their parents and even grandparents……they just have no idea what they are in for……….

  • rgb44hrc

    Thanks, admin, for the Ramones video. Their video looks like what our health care system will be like after Ofraud is done presiding over this train-wreck of a stinkulus bill and gutting Social Security.

    Good times.

  • wbboei

    Inasmuch as Obama (aka “Hoops”) is a known devotee of basketball and is reportedly bringing that passion to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to give WashPo yet another opportunity to think with their glands, he may wish to consider the following hypothetical:

    Suppose an alleged basketball star comes off the bench in a championship game when his team is 10 points down. Suppose further that the team goes on to lose by 30 points. And finally, suppose an aspiring sports reporter in a post game interview says to him: you were sent in to make the team win, the fans supported you, but you failed. Tell us what happened.

    Question: would it be any defense for him to say: ” I inherited this problem”?

  • curiosityhasme

    Not sure if it was Mark Steyn, but the statement

    “THE ONLY THING TO HOPE….IS HOPE ITSELF”

    as a parody to the infamous FDR quote needs to be plastered all over every conservative, Blue Dog news/blog site.

  • marie3548

    curiosityhasme Says:

    February 10th, 2009 at 11:52 am
    marie3548:

    The paraphrase of Martin Niemoller says it all, doesn’t it?

    AMen.

  • JanH

    Republican PAC targets bill supporters
    S.A Miller THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Tuesday, February 10, 2009

    A conservative political action committee Tuesday vowed to pour money into primary challenges against any Republican who votes for President Obama’s economic rescue package.

    “Republican Senators are on notice,” said Scott Wheeler, executive director of the National Republican Trust PAC (NRT). “If they support the stimulus package we will make sure every voter in their state knows how they tried to further bankrupt voters in an already bad economy.” He said the American people “don’t want this trillion dollar political payoff that will just line the pockets of non-governmental organizations who supported Obama in the election.”

    The Senate’s $838 billion stimulus bill is headed for passage Tuesday thanks to the support of three Republicans: Sens. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Susan M. Collins and Olympia J. Snowe, both of Maine. Their support after the bill was trimmed by about $100 billion enabled Democrats to defeat Republicans’ efforts Monday to block the massive package, delivering a critical victory for Mr. Obama. Mr. Specter is the only one of the three who is up for re-election in 2010.

    But his support for the bill was credited, in part, to the need to fortifying his standing with increasingly liberal Pennsylvania voters in anticipation of a tough primary and general election race. “Personally, I would prefer not to be on the edge of the pin, as so frequently is the case in this body,” Mr. Specter said in debate before Monday’s crucial vote. “But I do believe we have to act, and under the circumstances, this is the best we can do.”

    Mrs. Snowe, who is not up for re-election until 2012, is confident that Maine voters know she is representing their interests, said Snowe spokesman John Gentzel. “She won 75 percent of the vote last time,” he said. “She represents the people of Maine and they seem to like her up there.” He said Mrs. Snowe’s vote for the compromise bill does not ensure her support of the final legislation, which must reconcile the Senate bill and the House-passed $819 billion version.

    The conference to hammer out differences between the two bills, most notably education spending that was cut from the Senate version, will begin as early as Tuesday. Democratic leaders have set a Friday deadline to pass the final bill and deliver it to Mr. Obama’s desk. “If this conference report comes back and does not focuses on job creation and helping the displaced, she will not support it,” Mr. Gentzel said.

    The NRT, which raises money for political campaigns independently of the Republican Party, promotes candidates who support conservative values including limited government, lower taxes, strong national defense and free market economics.

    Miss Collins was just reelected and doesn’t face a challenge for six years.

    washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/10/conservatives-ready-to-challenge-stimulus-supporte/

  • djia

    FOX NEWS- BECK – RUSH – HANNITY ALL OVER THIS HEALTH ISSUE IN THE BILL ……..YEAH! so glad they are ringing the alarm bells on this !!

    hope they can have a HUGE effect on this and cause this entire THEFT BILL to collapse

  • JanH

    CURL: Obama snubs black press
    Joseph Curl (Tuesday, February 10, 2009

    After the first black president completed his first prime-time press conference, the black press was red hot. “We were window dressing,” said Hazel Edney, a reporter with the National Newspaper Publishers Association, also known as the Black Press of America. “We were nothing more than window dressing.”

    As the media filed into the stately White House East Room on Monday night, the reporter was shocked to find herself in the front row. Alongside her were the top news agencies, Associated Press, Reuters; also up front, 86-year-old Helen Thomas, who started covering presidents 50 years ago. Alongside the most prominent journalists in America was Tiffany Cross from Black Entertainment Television. Like Miss Edney, she didn’t know why she was in first-class while all the television networks – every single one – was exiled to the steerage compartment.

    “I really don’t know why I’m up here,” Miss Cross said with a shy smile.

    While most on the front row got to pose a question to President Obama, the two reporters from the black press did not. Nor did any other black-press reporter, for that matter. “This was like Reagan, when he’d put all the blacks up front,” said another prominent but visibly peeved black-press reporter who asked to remain anonymous. “He oughta’ be ashamed.”

    The new seating arrangement miffed a lot of reporters. In years past, the front row, usually nine or 10 seats, was peopled with the three main wires, the five big networks, Miss Thomas and, sometimes, a big newspaper, like the New York Times or USA Today. While the two wires were up front, Bloomberg News, which travels in every tight pool alongside AP and Reuters, was stationed in the second row. Of the networks, only CBS made that row. All but one of the others – ABC, CNN and NBC were in the third (while Fox News’ Major Garrett was dispatched to the fourth row, far to the right of the presidential podium).

    Seated in that prime front row, though, were some newcomers. Along with reporters from NNPA and BET were Sam Stein of the archly liberal Huffington Post and Ed Schultz, star of the “Ed Schultz Radio Show,” an unabashedly liberal talk-show host, who boasts 3 million listeners dubbed “Ed Heads.” Asked how he garnered the piece of prime real estate, Mr. Schultz said with a shrug: “I don’t know. They told me it was a random thing.” “But it’s not bad being up front,” said Mr. Schultz, whose book “Straight Talk From the Heartland,” is touted on his Web site as having “laid a road map for the progressive wave that’s sweeping America.”

    Although the packed East Room held 166 seats – with more than 100 others standing around the perimeter – two of the nine front-and-center seats were empty throughout the hour-long press conference. For some reason, no reporter from el Nuevo Dia, which Wikipedia says is “a newspaper written in Spanish based in Guaynabo, Puerto Rico and distributed daily throughout Puerto Rico and some parts of the mainland United States,” bothered to take their seat next to Miss Thomas.

    Salem Radio, a conservative radio station that is also part of the tight pool with the big wire services, also checked in and then never took their seat. None of it mattered, though, because Mr. Obama called reporters from a list on the podium, and reporters buzzed afterward about how he didn’t seem to know a single reporter he called on – at least in the front row.

    “And let me go to Jennifer Loven at AP,” the president said, looking to his left, and then back a row or two before finding the AP reporter front and center, about eight feet from the podium. “Ah, there you are.” “Caren Bohan of Reuters?” he said after finishing a long economics tutorial. He looked left and right before finding the red-headed reporter – right next to Miss Loven. “All right. Chuck Todd. Where’s Chuck?” Mr. Obama said before finding the goateed reporter in the third row. “Ed Henry. Where’s Ed? CNN. There he is,” he said shortly after Mr. Henry stood up. “Major Garrett. Where is Major?” he said before finding the reporter back in the cheap seats.

    While Mr. Obama didn’t call on Mr. Schultz in the front row, he did skip giant national newspapers like USA Today and The Wall Street Journal in favor of the Huffington Post, which didn’t disappoint. “Sam Stein, Huffington Post. Where’s Sam?”
    “Right here.” “There. Go ahead.” “Today, Senator Patrick Leahy announced that he wants to set up a truth and reconciliation committee to investigate the misdeeds of the Bush administration. He said that before you turn the page, you have to read – read the page first. Do you agree with such a proposal? And are you willing to rule out right here and now any prosecution of Bush administration officials?”

    The first post-partisan president paused, then answered. “My view is also that nobody’s above the law, and if there are clear instances of wrongdoing, that people should be prosecuted just like any ordinary citizen.”

    The president ticked through all the usual suspects, calling on the three wires and all five networks before hitting The Washington Post and New York Times, both of whom sent black reporters. The only other question from outside the box was from NPR.
    “Mara Liasson?” the president said as he scanned the crowd.

    washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/10/obama-snubs-black-press-shakes-up-seating-routines/?page=2

  • wbboei

    PM: did you see my posting on Kreskin at 10:52 above?

  • rgb44hrc

    DOWD’S DISENCHANTMENT WITH “THE ONE” CONTINUES

    not sure if this was posted a day or two ago, but here goes…my comments added (see $$$)

    nytimes.com/2009/02/08/opinion/08dowd.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

    Potomac’s Postpartisan Depression
    ———————————————-

    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: February 7, 2009

    Once upon a time, America thought Prince Charming would glide in and kiss her, reviving her from a coma induced by a poison apple of greed, deceit, carelessness, recklessness and overreaching.

    But then the prince got distracted, seeing Lincoln in the mirror, and instead gave the kiss of life to a bunch of flat-lining Republican tax-cut fetishists.

    Somehow the most well-known person on the planet lost control of the economic message to someone named Eric Cantor. (And Larry Summers ended up making Henry Paulson seem riveting.)

    In his first weeks padding around a White House that still has nails on the walls waiting for new pictures, and phone and e-mail kinks, Barack Obama could not locate the bully pulpit and ended up being bullied.

    $$$ MoDo, we thought you’d have realized by now that Obama’s not a fighter, that what is portrayed as his “calm and cool demeanor” is actually “detachment”, and “deer-in-headlights”.

    Republicans, pulled out of their existential lethargy and re-energized by the president’s charm offensive, immediately mounted an offensive against him. Just as Michael Bloomberg learned the perils of cuddling a groundhog when it bit him, Mr. Obama learned the perils of coddling conservatives.

    Pete Sessions, a conservative from Waco, Tex., and the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, warned that they could become an insurgency, having learned more about insurgencies “because of the Taliban.” (Yes, that’s the same Taliban that was allowed to regenerate by bumbling Republican leaders.)

    Obama advisers are right to crow that the president’s civility to Republicans will be popular with the public. But the carrot-stick ratio was way out of whack. Mr. Obama should have written up a kosher (as in pork-free) bill that Americans could trust — and Republicans couldn’t as easily mock — and jammed it through.

    It’s a huge, scary moment, with trillions of dollars and millions of jobs flying out the window. Vice President Joseph Biden, in another Cassandra moment, told House Democrats that even if the White House does everything right, “there’s still a 30 percent chance we’ll get it wrong.”

    The president and his aides seemed a bit snow-blinded by the White House, overwhelmed and slow to understand that they were losing the high ground and the whip hand. They couldn’t even get their pick for commerce secretary, the Republican Senator Judd Gregg, to vote for their stimulus bill; he said he would abstain.

    $$$ To quote Nelson the Bully from “The Simpsons”: “ha ha’.

    Those in the president’s circle were too caught up in more narrow concerns, like how their relationships with the president and the capital were shaking out; whether they could breathe on this new planet with the rarefied air of cool planes and helicopters; and whether W.’s mind-boggling mountain of garbage would trash Democratic candidates in 2010 and doom Mr. Obama to one term.

    “I would rather do the right thing and have one term than be mediocre and have two,” Mr. Obama told House Democrats at their Williamsburg retreat Thursday night. The lawmakers had been feeling disillusioned that they were carrying Mr. Obama’s water on the bill, while Obama aides triangulated and promised that the bill would “improve” in the Senate.

    $$$ Ofraud, you might just get your wish. We’ll even be waiting to see if you can make it through two years…

    Nancy Pelosi told her leadership team that she had told the president, “I don’t mind you driving the bus over me, but I don’t appreciate your backing it up and running over me again and again.”

    $$$ Since when did Nasty start reading Big PinK???????

    The Obama wizards’ tactical skills seemed to desert them. The White House often ends up making its inhabitants tone-deaf (or even nuts), but this was an unusually quick trip into the cognitive third dimension.

    Asked what he had learned from the Daschle fiasco, one Obama official replied, “Not to rationalize.”

    They knew that the choice of Tom Daschle conflicted with the Obama change message, but they preferred to focus on how much the president owed his friend and how good they thought he would be in the job.

    $$$ So Daschle “was owed” this seat, as a “favor”? Squid pro quo?

    They wanted him because he was the ultimate insider and they lost him because he was the ultimate insider. Now Daschle’s punishment for getting too rich with special interests will be to get richer with special interests.

    $$$ Lots of loose “change we can believe in”. Obama seems intent on fulfilling his pledge to unite the country, but he’ll accomplish it by angering his base, and uniting the country into wanting Obama removed from office.

    Obama aides call the morass a good wake-up call, and the president seems more aware of how the White House weather can cloud your thinking. Maybe that’s why he keeps trying to pop out to get a breath of fresh air — at an elementary school, at the Kennedy Center, at Camp David.

    $$$ The dude be choking. He’s not up for the stresses of the job. “Gee, it’s a lot harder than I thought. I need another Hawaiian getaway”.

    On Friday, a reporter asked Robert Gibbs if the president was already feeling cooped up.

    “He’s a bit of a restless soul,” Gibbs said, laughing. “His idea of a crazy day is to take a long walk.”

    A long walk where? somebody asked.

    “In solitude and isolation,” Gibbs replied.

    President Obama doesn’t need to leave his new home to be isolated. That’s the specialty of the White House.

  • pm317

    wbboei, oh, yes. I saw it. I didn’t know anything about this guy before I read your comment.

    Apparently there are many other “psychics” who say the same thing. Well, I was trying to see how the psychology might work for a viable path in ’12. It all hinges on how this flake does. But no question there are 10s of millions who held their nose to give this bastard a chance even when they were not sure. How the party machinery turns around is still a question. But he may find himself on the wrong side of many of the ones who propped him up this time which to some extent has already happened, Brazille, Dean, Biden, Kerry, Dashcle… list goes on. If he does not deliver, he may be dropped like a hot potato by everybody and Hillary’s force can step in to correct the injustice.

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • JanH

    It’s just so sad…NOT…when those in the media who once thought this monster walked on water, are slowly coming to realize that it was all smoke and mirrors.

    I do not have any sympathy for them. They slammed Hillary and McCain left and right and now they are reaping what they sowed.

  • wbboei

    It is rather evident from the above press conference, how he recognizes those purveyors of untruth by first name and who he summoned to the white house to deliver his I screw up defense, that his real audience is not the American People but the Washington press corps. Could it also be that he has found the Achilles heel of our democracy?

  • rgb44hrc

    JanH Says:

    February 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
    CURL: Obama snubs black press

    After the first black president completed his first prime-time press conference, the black press was red hot. “We were window dressing,” said Hazel Edney, a reporter with the National Newspaper Publishers Association, also known as the Black Press of America. “We were nothing more than window dressing.”

    “This was like Reagan, when he’d put all the blacks up front,” said another prominent but visibly peeved black-press reporter who asked to remain anonymous. “He oughta’ be ashamed.”
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Window dressing? How does it feel to be used and discarded.

    Manipulated by Obama like Reagan did? Hey, I thought Obama kept referring to all the great presidents he wanted to emulate: Lincoln, FDR, and Reagan…

    Pre-election: “Oooooh, let’s help Obama make history”.
    Post-election: “I can’t believe how disrpectful he is to us. Doesn’t he know he owes us???”

  • freckles

    Remember the mantra of every political candidate esp. Ronald Reagan? “I want to clean up the waste fraud and abuse”.

    Let’s see how that’s going. Reagan had the HUD scandal of fraud and waste where Republicans got $300,000 to make a phone call for other rich Republicans to get masses of govt money to refurbish buildings which were already waaay over-priced and were in places where there were almost no eligible renters. (I remember a small rich town in Conn.) That’s where our low-rent housing money went.

    Let’s move on to now. Anybody check their e-mails?
    I get about 100 a day and about 200 in the spam box. About 90% of them are fraudulent. “Free” stuff that isn’t, “pre-approved” which means nothing, “congrats, you won” when you haven’t, “job offers” that aren’t (and are so cruel),
    loans that charge desperate people 3000% and then take out even more when they have your bank numbers.

    Banks, loan companies, merchants, and Kenyans are all into this ethic-less business.

    Into this morass we are about to dump a trillion dollars. Ask yourself how much of this will be scammed away. The thing abut the tax breaks is that some of that will get to people but when does that take effect? A tax break for a failing business isn’t so much help because you won’t owe much anyway. The rich and prosperous will like it.

    The banking system does need strengthening but it would help if there were stringent rules and oversight.

    So, what is anyone’s best guess about what percent of the ‘stimulus’ will go to the politically and financially connected? And what percent will be wasted and defrauded away?

    My guess is 40% to the former and 40% to the latter.
    And what percent will go to the

  • freckles

    While estimating the percent lost to fraud and waste in this bill, remind yourself that in Iraq alone, in about a year or two, they lost 9 billion dollars. They have never found it. 9 billion. In 1 place. During a bloody war where soldiers were dying for lack of equipment. 9 billion that could have saved innumerable lives.

    How do you think the stimulus bill will do for people in need?

  • Emjay

    OkieAtty

    If you are reading, talk to us. Are you OK? I just saw some of the pictures from Edmund and Ok City.