Weekend At Porky’s: Opposition Stimulus

The stimulus in Obama’s flim-flam scam is ramped up opposition.

The political protection racket which is the flim-flam “stimulus” scam will hurt, not help, the economy. Americans with common sense are voicing opposition. Big Media is still protecting their tool Barack Obama but even with Big Media the realization dawns that Obama is Not Ready or Inexperienced or a Big Liar, possibly even the Third Bush Term.

Even at the highest (for us, the very lowest) levels of the Dimocratic Party the infighting and anger and opposition to Obama appears. The very low Maureen Dowd today reports that

Nancy Pelosi told her leadership team that she had told the president, “I don’t mind you driving the bus over me, but I don’t appreciate your backing it up and running over me again and again.”

Nancy Pelosi, who backstabbed Hillary and pushed Barack Obama on the Democratic Party is learning that Obama can’t be trusted.

Dimocrats will try to argue that the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam needs a little of this or a little of that. Some will argue the “stimulus” scam is too little or misdirected. But they are wrong. The Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam won’t work because it comes from a corrupt source that can’t be trusted.

Americans know: Don’t build a building with cement supplied by the Mafia. because the building is bound to fall. Likewise, don’t pass the stimulus because, like Mafia cement, it won’t do the job.

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We wish it were not so. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. After 8 years of torture under Bush we now have the Third Bush Term. This time it is B.O. with the B.S.

We wish we could argue about whether America needs more aid to local governments, more money spent on investments on education and productive long term projects. We wish we could argue about whether short term assistance to local governments will lead to recovery. But the Chicago crime lord system at this point is so corrupt it makes no sense to design the kitchen and place the sofa – because the building is going to fall.

We wish we had real Democrats structuring a coordinated plan for economic recovery – the way Bill Clinton did. Bill Clinton structured an economic program for recovery. The Bill Clinton program worked even though it alienated congressional Democrats who wanted to spend and spend. In the 1994 elections Democrats were punished because of their own many scandals. Still, Bill Clinton did the right thing for America. Bill Clinton was attacked by Republicans and Democrats because he put Country First, Party Second.

The Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam puts Party first. Our debtor nation will now go further into debt with wasteful expenditures, not carefully calibrated investments. If the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam is adopted it will be a very long Weekend At Porky’s.

The very long Weekend At Porky’s will be an uncoordinated drunk. Virginia is an example of what will happen if the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam passes:

The Democrat-controlled Senate, the Republican-dominated House of Delegates and Kaine may be headed to a free-for-all over federal stimulus dollars because the funds, particularly those for construction, are virtually free of any strings from Washington.

In contrast with the typical earmark-laden spending bills written by pork-fed members of Congress, the so-called American Recovery and Reinvestment Act largely leaves it to the states to decide down which potential rat holes they should pour money.

Beginning to get the picture? And it isn’t pretty, given the looming elections for governor and the House of Delegates. Another complication: Congress is finalizing this ginormous giveaway. The House of Representatives and U.S. Senate were hung up on such details as what money, if any, should be solely controlled by governors.

The Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam is successful only in stoking opposition. The “stimulus” opposition is growing because Americans know that a debtor nation taking on more debt is a gamble which needs to be considered very carefully. Joe Biden himself lacks confidence in the albatross “stimulus”.

He recalled a recent White House meeting with the president and senior aides in which they were discussing the many challenges the country faces. “If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there’s still a 30% chance we’re going to get it wrong,” was his message at the meeting.

Biden is promising Dimocrats political assistance when Americans revolt in 2010. Biden knows his 30% figure is a fig leaf for himself – the probablity of failure is much greater. If the probability for success was 70% Biden would not worry about ads aired by Republican in 2010.

“But when we do [approve it], I’m sure you’re going to be nailed in ads, ‘Well they voted on that’ 30 second ads,” Biden told roughly 200 members of the House Democratic Caucus gathered here for their three day annual retreat. “I promise you as [a colleague] once said to me, ‘I’ll come campaign for you or against you, whichever will help you the most in your district.’ And so will the president because, again, we’re all in this together.”



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When the deal in the U.S. Senate was announced, the simple fact of how much money would be wasted was unknown. Reid said it was close to a trillion dollars, the New York Times did not know, Roll Call said it was between $780 or $826 Billion, Fox News said $811 billion, AP said $780 billion, AFP said $830 billion, L.A. Times wrote $780 billion, Bloomberg quoted $780 billion, Politico had it around $800 billion, Reuters said $780 billion, CQ had it at $827 billion and The Hill thought it was $780 billion. The accepted price tag is now $827 billion.

Senator Levin is already suggesting the spending cuts in the “stimulus” bill will be reversed; Senator Collins, a must-have Republican vote is posing as a possible “No” vote if the cuts are reversed in the conference committee.

The current schedule is for a vote on Monday to end debate in the Senate. On Tuesday the current bill will be replaced with an $827 billion substitute. The House bill will then have to be “reconciled” with the different Senate proposal by a “conference” committee of Senators and Representatives. After an agreement is reached both the House and the Senate will then have to vote again.

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Senator Collins has given herself an out. If the oppostion increases, who knows what will happen.

The opposition to Obama is growing.

Fox News, the Republican propaganda arm which was shockingly much more fair and balanced than other news outlets during the primaries is growing in viewership rapidly. MSNBC, the Obama propaganda arm, is losing viewers.

Obama typically blames the staff, now he is blaming everyone who does not worship him. Even his Big Media masters know that Obama is to blame for the clodishness:

But there’s no denying that the bulk of the blame must be laid at the feet of the Obamans, who have squandered or let lay idle almost every political advantage they possessed at the outset.

Begin with the transition, so widely hailed back in December, but which by now is ripe for reappraisal. [snip]

But the House vote turned into a partisan knife fight, with Republicans slashing giddily at the dubious provisions—the contraceptives, the resodding of the National Mall—inserted by Democrats, carving it up as a fatback-festooned monstrosity concocted by drunk-at-the-punch-bowl liberals, winning the war to define the bill in the media.

The Republican Mau-Mauing of the stimulus package has reinforced a persistent critique from Obama’s left: that his strategy of focusing on bi-partisanship was naïve or simply nuts—because Republicans would inevitably do … well, exactly what they’ve done. [snip]

The problems with this approach were twofold, however. It underestimated the extent to which Republicans would be successful at undermining the bill and thus how much trouble they’d stir up in the Senate. And that dynamic, in turn, was exacerbated by the egregious ball-dropping of the administration when it came to framing the bill. “The failure of the White House in terms of messaging has been colossal,” says one top Democratic strategist. “It’s almost as if they didn’t think they needed to sell it. As if it was so self-evidently necessary, and Obama’s popularity so huge, that passing the thing would be a cakewalk.”

For two crucial weeks, indeed, the White House communications breakdown was all-encompassing.

Then, with public support for the stimulus slipping and the possibility of a filibuster threatening, Obama and his people shifted gears. Suddenly, the economic team was unspooling state-by-state job-creation numbers. Suddenly, the president was warning that inaction could lead to “catastrophe,” trashing “criticisms of this plan that frankly echo the very same failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis.” There were plans for a prime-time news conference and perhaps an address from the Oval Office.

No doubt all this will help the package overcome the hurdles that remain. No doubt the celebration that ensues when it’s signed into law will be loud and triumphal. And let me be clear: I have no doubt that whatever emerges after the House and Senate merge their bills will be better than nothing. But it’s still going to be a dog’s breakfast—and far from the best thing that Obama could have achieved. Economists don’t like it. The left ain’t happy with it. The right positively deplores it. All of which would be fine, of course, if the damn thing works.

And there’s the rub, it won’t work.

The question, of course, is how “works” is defined—and that’s where the politics kicks in. This time next year, it’s altogether plausible that the recession will still be raging. Will the stimulus therefore be seen to have failed? Or as having succeeded in staving off something worse? The greater risk for Obama, however, is that neither of these perceptions will be foremost in voters’ minds, but that the stimulus will be recalled as just another partisan Washington goat rodeo that accomplished precious little—at a cost of nearly $1 trillion.

Democrats used to be upset when George W. Bush frequently claimed that his draconian policies had stopped another terrorist attack, that his policies had stopped things from getting worse.

That is in large part the Obama argument – that the “stimulus” scam is needed to keep the economy from getting worse. It’s the same argument in Bush’s Third Term. This time it is B.O. with the B.S.

The Obamaination called the “stimulus” bill will only increase contempt for Obama and the Dimocrats.

Obama will likely win this battle but he will lose the war. That is because good policy is the best politics.

Good policy rejects the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam.

The stimulus is for greater opposition to Obama.

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95 thoughts on “Weekend At Porky’s: Opposition Stimulus

  1. Concerning the Toby Hardin article on Obamas rocky start
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    Jan- Toby sees Obamas lack of experience as the root cause for his undeniably rocky start. If that were all there was to it then it would be cureable over the long term. It took Bill and Hillary no less than two years to get their sea legs in Washington and those were comparatively speaking easier times. For Obama the time frame will be longer due to the intractable nature of our current national problems and his utter lack of executive experience. I buy that argument as far as it goes. But it raises certain questions in its wake.

    The first question is what damage will be done to the country between now and the time Obama acquires the requisite experience–assuming he ever does? That is a rather pertinent question given the deteriorating state of affairs. Therein lies the seeds for his defeat in 2012, in my estimation. By then the people who wanted change from Bush will want change from him and most any charistmatic leader on the Republican side will look good in comparison. That leader has yet to emerge but the chances are in will be a younger white male. But wouldn’t it be fun if it turned out to be the new black RNC chairman?

    The second question is whether experience is the sole cause of this rocky start, or there is another factor in play here–namely character. If so that is an immutable character less cureable over the course of time. In the above posting I tried to point out that he backed down to Pelosi and that was a mistake. To me at least it showed a lack of political and personal courage which is part of his nature. As a result of his cowardice, it will be harder for him now to do what Toby points out that he must do namely seize back the political agenda. If past is prologue, he will try to do this rhetorically. But rhetoric runs thin when it fails to produce concrete results.

    In the final analysis it is not rhetoric, but power and the willingness to exercise it which will determine the fate of his presidency. There he is lacking. That will be a continuing problem for him as he presumes to govern. Since Toby did not mention that I thought perhaps I should.

  2. OK, we did not remember the great racial speech, that the media hailed as such, but we will remember the Stimulus package. Speeches do not get you out of recessions, but sound stimulus does.

    No voting present here, no stealing other’s proven legislation, just you on top, not understanding even what a stimulus package should contain. Today’s world does not give you a change to learn the job for 6 months after day one. In this economy, we needed someone who had a package ready, with little if any pork, coordinated even with the opposition.

    I GUESS HE WAS NOT REALLY READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.

  3. LOL…Weekend at Porky’s now available on DVD for 1 cent only!

    Get yours while you can!

    Starring: the three little pigs–obama, pelosi, & reid.

    Co-starring: teddy, caroline, and oprahtwit.

  4. ADMIN: BRILLIANT POSTING. MR OBAMA IS NOT A LEADER HE IS A MOUTHPIECE FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS. HE IS NOT A PROBLEMSOLVER. HIS PRIORITIES ARE AS FOLLOWS: FIRST WHAT IS GOOD FOR HIM, SECOND WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE PARTY AND THIRD (LAST) WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY. NOT EXACTLY LINCOLNESQUE IS IT?

    BY CONTRAST BILL CLINTON AND HILLARY CLINTON HAVE THE VERY OPPOSITE PRIORITIES. THEY THINK OF COUNTRY FIRST. THAT IS THE CRITICAL DIFFERENCE. THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY UNDERSTOOD THIS DIFFERENCE EVEN THOUGH BIG MEDIA DID ITS LEVEL BEST TO BAMBOOZLE THEM. FOR LEST WE FORGET, HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE IN THE PRIMARY AND THE GENERAL ELECTION BASED ON STRAW POLLING. IF HE ELITES HAD BEEN MORE INTERESTED IN THE FATE OF OUR COUNTRY THAN IN LINING THEIR OWN POCKETS THEY WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE TELLING THEM.

    We wish we had real Democrats structuring a coordinated plan for economic recovery – the way Bill Clinton did. Bill Clinton structured an economic program for recovery. The Bill Clinton program worked even though it alienated congressional Democrats who wanted to spend and spend. In the 1994 elections Democrats were punished because of their own many scandals. Still, Bill Clinton did the right thing for America. Bill Clinton was attacked by Republicans and Democrats because he put Country First, Party Second.

    The Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam puts Party first. Our debtor nation will now go further into debt with wasteful expenditures, not carefully calibrated investments. If the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam is adopted it will be a very long Weekend At Porky’s.

  5. the Congressional Budget Office is now saying the recession will be over by the end of 2009 without the stimulus bill. THAT is why the flim flam wants to push this shit through NOW and massive bills over the next few weeks.

    This stuff is hard to digest and disgusing and downright scary.

  6. dot48 Says:
    February 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    the Congressional Budget Office is now saying the recession will be over by the end of 2009 without the stimulus bill.
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    If we are very lucky, we will see the bottom sometime in 2011 and then a long decade of crawling out of the hole. With Obama making the Stim bill personal, he bought the recession..it’s all his..

  7. Great post, Admin!

    You really made my evening with this;

    “Nancy Pelosi told her leadership team that she had told the president, “I don’t mind you driving the bus over me, but I don’t appreciate your backing it up and running over me again and again.”

    Bwahahahahahahaha!

  8. DOT here is what the CBO was saying about it two weeks ago on January 27, per McClatchy. Makes you wonder how good their crytal ball is. Someone should ask Buffett perhaps:

    Congressional Budget Office compares downturn to Great Depression

    By David Lightman | McClatchy Newspaper

    The nation’s current recession is likely to be the longest since World War II, and by some measures could be the worst since the Great Depression, a new Congressional Budget Office forecast said Tuesday.

    Without a major economic stimulus plan, “the shortfall in the nation’s output relative to its potential would be the largest – in terms of both length and depth – since the Depression of the 1930s,” said new CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf in testimony prepared for the House Budget Committee.

    The analysis is sure to add important momentum to the effort to enact an $825 billion stimulus by mid-February. President Barack Obama is meeting Tuesday morning with House Republicans and plans to meet with Senate GOP members in early afternoon. The nonpartisan CBO is highly regarded by both parties.

    The House is expected to begin debating the measure later with a final vote liked Wednesday.

    CBO already gave House Democrats good news Monday night, estimating that about 64 percent of the funds would go into the economy by Sept. 30, 2010. Earlier, it had said only 38 percent of key spending programs would be used, but it broadened its analysis to include the entire bill.Republicans had seized on that low figure to argue the bill was loaded with unnecessary spending.

    Tuesday, it took a look at the overall economy, and found it badly in need of the stimulus.

    The bill, Elmendorf said, “would provide a substantial boost to economic activity over the next several years relative to what would occur without any legislation.”

    With the bill, CBO figured economic output would be between 1.3 percent and 3.6 percent higher at the end of this year, higher by a similar amount at the end of 2010 and even higher in 2011.

    The help is needed to reverse a downturn that CBO estimates will easily surpass the 1981-82 and 1973-75 recessions, each of which last 16 months, by mid-year.

    “It could also be the deepest recession during the postwar period in terms of the difference between actual and potential output,” Elmendorf said. By his estimates, output over the next two years will average 6.8 percent below normal.

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  9. If we are very lucky, we will see the bottom sometime in 2011 and then a long decade of crawling out of the hole. With Obama making the Stim bill personal, he bought the recession..it’s all his..
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    Agreed 100%

  10. It just looks to me like there is a whole financial system here that has pretty much collapsed and it will take longer than a year or three or five years to rebuild it.

  11. wbboei Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    It just looks to me like there is a whole financial system here that has pretty much collapsed and it will take longer than a year or three or five years to rebuild it.

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    Is this all the work of Bush? Doesn’t it go further back?

  12. How can it all be the work of Bush? The Dems had the majority for the last term. They ignored warnings on Fanny Mae et al. They ignored what the banks were doing. They scoffed at Hillary for trying to help homeowners.

    They lined their pockets with freebees and special terms for mortgages. And who knows how many of them broke tax laws and a whole slew of others.

  13. JanH Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
    How can it all be the work of Bush? The Dems had the majority for the last term. They ignored warnings on Fanny Mae et al. They ignored what the banks were doing. They scoffed at Hillary for trying to help homeowners.

    They lined their pockets with freebees and special terms for mortgages. And who knows how many of them broke tax laws and a whole slew of others.

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    Yeah, that’s what I told my hairdresser yesterday.

  14. henry Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    Macys selling probambi shit\let em know what you think

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    Henry, everyone is selling paraphenilia (sp), even QVC.

  15. Admin says:”The Democrat-controlled Senate, the Republican-dominated House of Delegates and Kaine may be headed to a free-for-all over federal stimulus dollars because the funds, particularly those for construction, are virtually free of any strings from Washington.”

    WHY IS THERE NO OVERSIGHT, OR REGULATIONS FOR THE MONEY? NOT TO HAVE REGULATIONS IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND FOOLHARDY. ARE THEY TRYING TO RUIN OUR COUNTRY?????

  16. Admin says: “The failure of the White House in terms of messaging has been colossal,” says one top Democratic strategist. “It’s almost as if they didn’t think they needed to sell it. As if it was so self-evidently necessary, and Obama’s popularity so huge, that passing the thing would be a cakewalk.”
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    TOTAL ARROGANCE AND HUBRIS.

  17. wbboei: your comments are always on the mark they give me more hope that we will survive this greenhorn’s feeble attempts to be a leader.Thank you for making us all aware of what we have spawned to be our leader and given time we will undo this fraudulent egomaniac’s damage to our country.Keeping informed and being responsive is what you do so well for us. Thank you.

    By ABM90 Keep Hillary news flowing 24/7 and the emperor will be overcome with envy and anger as his numbers continue the downward spiral.

  18. Bush’s unnecessary war in Irag is a huge part of how we got to this point. We literally blew up millios of dollars in Iraq……money that could have been used for health care, etc. We couldn’t afford the war…we robbed social security to pay for it. Just think what deficit budgeting does to a household. When you are deep in debt, you can’t move forward, you can’t take advantage of investments, etc. This is what Bill clinton really understood….the importance of fiscal health.

    As a baby boomer, I am furious when people say that my generation will be a drain on the country. My generation created a surplus because there are so many of us. Unfortunately, the democrats under Clinton, changed the law to allow that money to be used for purposes other than social security.
    We paid into the system and there should have been plenty of money to cover our benefits.

  19. Carol says: “As a baby boomer, I am furious when people say that my generation will be a drain on the country. My generation created a surplus because there are so many of us. Unfortunately, the democrats under Clinton, changed the law to allow that money to be used for purposes other than social security.
    We paid into the system and there should have been plenty of money to cover our benefits.”

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    SS and Medicare are up next for the chopping block. I dread seeing what that will be.

    I think the baby boomer generation is up for some hard times.

  20. What got cut from the stimulus bill

    Partially cut:

    • $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)

    • $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)

    • $200 million from Environmental Protection Agency Superfund (original bill $800 million)

    • $100 million from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (original bill $427 million)

    • $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)

    • $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)

    • $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)

    Fully eliminated

    • $55 million for historic preservation

    • $122 million for new Coast Guard polar icebreaker/cutters

    • $100 million for Farm Service Agency modernization

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    • $50 million for CSERES research

    • $65 million for watershed rehabilitation

    • $30 million for SD salaries

    • $100 for distance learning

    • $98 million for school nutrition

    • $50 million for aquaculture

    • $2 billion for broadband

    • $100 million for NIST

    • $50 million for detention trustee

    • $25 million for Marshalls Construction

    • $300 million for federal prisons

    • $300 million for BYRNE Formula

    • $140 million for BYRNE Competitive

    • $10 million state and local law enforcement

    • $50 million for NASA

    • $50 million for aeronautics

    • $50 million for exploration

    • $50 million for Cross Agency Support

    • $200 million for National Science Foundation

    • $100 million for science

    • $1 billion for Energy Loan Guarantees

    • $4.5 billion for GSA

    • $89 million GSA operations

    • $50 million from DHS

    • $200 million TSA

    • $122 million for Coast Guard Cutters, modifies use

    • $25 million for Fish and Wildlife

    • $55 million for historic preservation

    • $20 million for working capital fund

    • $165 million for Forest Service capital improvement

    • $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management

    • $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start

    • $5.8 billion for Health Prevention Activity

    • $2 billion for HIT Grants

    • $600 million for Title I (NCLB)

    • $16 billion for school construction

    • $3.5 billion for higher education construction

    • $1.25 billion for project based rental

    • $2.25 for Neighborhood Stabilization

    • $1.2 billion for retrofitting Project 8 housing

    • $40 billion for state fiscal stabilization (includes $7.5 billion of state incentive grants)

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  21. Paul Krugman on the Senate bill. He’s not a happy camper.

    krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/what-the-centrists-have-wrought/

  22. I take huge offense at Macy’s because they are giving ligitamcy.
    Say we all just send them an email saying no thankyou we will spend our money elsewhere
    www1.macys.com/service/contactus/index.jsp

  23. Is this all the work of Bush? Doesn’t it go further back?
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    Of course not. In my view it began with a Harvard Professor named Alfred Kahn who got the whole deregulation bill rolling. He worked for Carter. Reagan continued that trend, Milton Friedman became a god and the political clout of organized labor began to drastically wane. Bush the elder laid the groundwork for radical free trade which eventually led to a NAFTA, GATT, WTO treaty system and the move away from manufacturing and toward an information based ecomomy after the late 80s. Congress ignored warning signals by the Bush Administration to the improvident lending practices of Fanny Mae, Dodd and others engaged in self dealing, Greenspan failed the nation as head of the Fed and the head of the SEC, Cox ignored the Ponzi schemes of Wall Street. Bushs great sin was ignorance that any of this was happening.

  24. • $2.25 for Neighborhood Stabilization
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    Is that million or billion? How much of that is to finance the thugs and thieves at ACORN? What kind of milarky are we talking about under this ambiguous heading neighborhood stabilitation? What kind of political thuggery are we subsidizing? The kind that produced 2000 complaints by democrats in the primary which that slob Brazille failed to take action on?

  25. wbboei Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
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    Thank you, wbboei. I gave my hairdresser the reader’s digest version of the above, but said that Bush owned the Iraq War. There is enough blame to go around for both parties. I was surprised, when she said, “the work of one man.” That is when, I discussed when the deregulation started happening with Carter, and each successive administration. Also, said that dims were the recipients of funds from Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, and didn’t do anything to instill regulation. Bush was definitely a puppet, if he didn’t realize what was happening economically. BO is the off to the same start.

    What amazes me, is the hands off approach of BO towards the stimulus package. He should be in Washington working on and leading this effort. Instead, he seems to be schmoozing and campaigning.

    How is this thing going to be paid for???

  26. I agree with Paul Krugmans analysis in its entirety. I think it was too small, too unfocused and because obama outsourced the writing of this bill to congress rather than insisting on parameters he will be unable to add in the things that are necessary. The important thing was not cutting out specific programs for the sake of unity, but to come up with something that will not result in the loss of 600,000 jobs. That is the difference between clueless mouthpiece like Obama and a true leader like Hillary. The loss of 600,000 jobs which could have prevented in whole or in part will be painful to working families who do not take vacations in 7 million dollar condominums in Hawaii while big media admires his pecks.

  27. sorry–I meant abs. Big media does not think with its head, but with its glands. Andrew Sullivan merely stated what many of them were thinking.

  28. sorry–I meant abs. Big media does not think with its head, but with its glands. Andrew Sullivan merely stated what many of them were thinking.

  29. wbboei: That is 2.5 BILLION

    taken from CNN

    cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/07/stimulus.cuts/index.html
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    Lord God.

  30. Birdgal: I look at the words community development and think ACORN. Their history of fraud embezzlement and coersion in the causces is a matter of record. I guess if I knew how much of that 2.5 billion was going to them I would be more sanguine about this. If the bulk of it is to do what Hillary proposed then my reaction might be different. But when I see ACORN, all I can see is Alinsky, Obama and a man named Monk Eastman who head of a gang employed by Tammeny Hall in New York in the early 19th century to sign up ineligilbe voters and crack the heads of legitimate ones. Today it is done more subtley but the result is still the same.

  31. 2.5 billion is to be eliminated. How much was the original amount??? Chicago politics has gone national and is embedded in every facet of government.

  32. Sorry I misread it. Take a look at the list and I think you will see why. It lists programs partly eliminated, then programs totally eliminatee and then it talks about Obama. I thought the remaineder was programs that were saved it was confusing, I was confused or perhaps a little of both.

  33. wbboei: I copied it from an e-mail. I went to the website, because I wasn’t exactly clear, on what was eliminated or decreased. Something was lost in the process. Sorry for the confusion.

    Emjay: In one hour-9 p.m.

  34. Admin- I like the use of the word “unspooling”.. good one!

    Also, I am perplexed at why Obama would be traveling to Indiana tomorrow for a Town Hall Meeting in the hopes of stoking support for passage, then on to Florida?

    I read this at http…pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

  35. Obama is in deep shit. (Sadly we’re stuck with him.) He doesn’t know how to govern. He’s never done it in his life. Neither has Axelrove. They won a campaign, but running a campaign (and not running it well, contrary to popular belief because blowing through over $700 billion and just barely squeaking through is not great campaigning), running a campaign does not prepare you to govern. So Obama and his evil brain Axelrove are clueless and are doing some major on-the-job training. By the time they’ve memorized the “How To Be A President” handbook it may very well be too late for the rest of us.
    All this bipartisan shit pisses me off. I don’t want bipartisanship. When you don’t have two sides disagreeing – you don’t get a debate. What we need are two equally strong, fearless, and gutsy sides going at it with their teeth barred.. That’s how you debate and compromise and reach middle ground. All this “can’ we all just get along” is bullshit because it only applies to Democrats, and for Democrats “can’t we all just get along” means Democrats crossing over to Republicans and asking them how they feel about the state of the world. And Republicans are seeing all this for what it is: weakness. They smell blood in the water and have taken control of the debate on the stimulus plan; I’m not sure Democrats can take it back again. And this is only week 2. Obama, with his huge majorities in both houses, is acting the way Democrats have been acting for the past 8 years: they bend over and grab their ankles and say: “What do you think, honey?” And Republicans, whose balls are made of steel, are flipping the Democrats off. And why shouldn’t they! The problem with the Bush years is not that Republicans were so difficult, it’s that Democrats were such cowards. And this problem will continue to exist unless (and is anyone holding their breath?) Democrats grow a pair.

  36. # wbboei Says:

    February 8th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I agree with Paul Krugmans analysis in its entirety. I think it was too small, too unfocused and because obama outsourced the writing of this bill to congress rather than insisting on parameters he will be unable to add in the things that are necessary. The important thing was not cutting out specific programs for the sake of unity, but to come up with something that will not result in the loss of 600,000 jobs. That is the difference between clueless mouthpiece like Obama and a true leader like Hillary. The loss of 600,000 jobs which could have prevented in whole or in part will be painful to working families who do not take vacations in 7 million dollar condominums in Hawaii while big media admires his pecks.

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    Well said, wbb. Krugman warned early on if the Stim was too small it would do more harm than good. Gird your loins.

  37. The head of the Grammy’s praised bambi and then in this economy called for the creation of an arts cabinet position. Take a sip from a 1000 dollar bottle of champagne and then ask the government to fund the industry which made you very very wealthy.

  38. For everyone feeling a bit cynical today, or cross, or discouraged, or mad because you senator’s or rep’s “mailbox is full – please call back later” or you feel not in control, of anything, it seems:

    This is for you.

    h’s….and w’s

    nytimes.com/2009/02/08/opinion/08amidon.html?em

  39. You know, I don’t even LIKE MoDo, but Admin had a link to her column today, and in getting to Admin’s point, I found this from MoDo’s usually poisoned pen- a pure sentence of common sense-

    “Mr. Obama should have written up a kosher (as in pork-free) bill that Americans could trust — and Republicans couldn’t as easily mock — and jammed it through.”

    Reminds me of what Bill Clinton did with his first budget bill…and got it passed by one vote – Al Gore’s. But it was the foundation for the fiscal policies that would lead to a balanced budget within 6 years, and a $5.5B surplus two years later.

  40. The head of the Grammy’s praised bambi and then in this economy called for the creation of an arts cabinet position. Take a sip from a 1000 dollar bottle of champagne and then ask the government to fund the industry which made you very very wealthy.
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    Henry- I guess they know a rube when they see one.

  41. Well, Emjay- Sounds like a plan that could work if the VP wasn’t out on the trail trying to be Hillary. Biden is really a piece of work. A 30% percenter hedging his bet while trying to locate his gonads with both hands.

  42. Bail out monies should never ever be given to governors without strings.

    The test is not whether a pending project is shovel ready as Mayor Daley so artfully puts it but whether it serves the national purpose.

    Bridges, highways, ports, airports should be the first priority. Hospitals, schools, utilities should be second. Private projects should not be financed with public money unless there is a clear public purpose, and private moneys are not available. The building of nuclear plants is an example.

    Have we learned NOTHING from the misbegotten bailout of the banks when we saw how the monies were being misspent and the purpose for the bailout-to free up liquidity was never achieved.

    There must be federal controls and monitoring of bailout money.

  43. Mrs Smith

    Couldn’t agree more – and to do it at the Munich Conference to boot…in front of almost every Foreign Minister in the World… I will let you know what DW and the overnight BBC have to say. Generally they consider Joe a friendly enough guy, but don’t buy the US MSM bit about his “extensive” foreign policy experience, and definitely think his mouth needs a brake and clutch job.

  44. If 600,000 Americans must lose their jobs because the Obama stimulus plan was misguided, did not go far enough, etc. let us at least hope they are the same people who voted for him.

  45. My 23 year old niece who spent her juvenescene bombarded by jane eyre and ayn rand everything I could find about women for women wants to spend valentines day with me and see the new friday the 13th film. Wierded me out but as i wanna help I downloaded and sat thruogh a small part of them( Actually watched one and two and it is the women who rockin these films– take my word they are really really bad movies. But i hope my niece is saying I can defend myself.

  46. Wow
    bet everone creeping in at this hour hates me
    but I have a real question why do senators not have a proxy vote?
    How many hours did obama and in fairness Mccain and Clinton spend in the Senate doing thier jobs? Why can someone not vote by proxy for them. Anyone here who comes up with the wage per hour bambi earned as a senater by being a senater gits a copy of Learning to Fly sent to their library of choice.

  47. I demand to know who is paying for ted I KILL WOMANS health care. Beyond disgraceful that any one would accept illness as an abscence for the biggest bill ever. Fuck him give up the job which you are obviously unable to perform

  48. Well made a promise to myself to give a book to a library for every argument I got to online. Today I had no luck so I am simpy gonna send LBJ bios to a few catholic schools
    Beyond that if ya have cloths to give away, think about expending a little bit of effort and contacting half way houses. So often women and men end up in those places with nothing but what is on thier back. Takes a little work to find the places and often do not have the forms required to take a deduction but someone will wear that item within the hour.
    All ya gotta do is call your local hospital and ask them about plaCES FOR PEOPLE IN THEIR CARE WAITING TO BE DUMPED INTO A HALF WAY HOUSE.

  49. Nancy Pelosi told her leadership team that she had told the president, “I don’t mind you driving the bus over me, but I don’t appreciate your backing it up and running over me again and again.”
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    Others might find that single act commendable. Besides, why should Poopsie be different than anyone else who supports him?

  50. But when we do [approve it], I’m sure you’re going to be nailed in ads, ‘Well they voted on that’ 30 second ads,” Biden told roughly 200 members of the House Democratic Caucus gathered here for their three day annual retreat. “I promise you as [a colleague] once said to me, ‘I’ll come campaign for you or against you, whichever will help you the most in your district.’ And so will the president because, again, we’re all in this together.”
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    We are all in this together. Who does he mean by we? The dimocratic caucus. What does he mean by this? This plot to loot the treasury and enrich Obama cronies like Mayor Daley through no federal strings on this money perhaps. What are these shovel ready projects that mayor daley refers to but refuses to list.

    On the other hand even if he did list them, AP, the GE Combine (NBC&MSNBC), CNN and WASHPO would turn a blind eye on them and move on to more pressing matters like why his free through line percentage has dropped and whether it sytomatic of the need for a well earned vacation so they can accompany him on yet another trip Hawaii and admire his abs. These miscreants diddle while Rome burns.

  51. Senator Collins has given herself an out. If the oppostion increases, who knows what will happen
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    Collins has made a major mistake here–and she knows it. She may not have realized it at the time, but for sure she knows it now. Her colleagues are pointing this out to her en masse–although you would never know it from big media. This is what happens sometimes when you press too hard for a deal. You chase it down a rathole. But as Admin points out, the bigger mistake by her, Snowe and Spectre is to focus on cuts and ignore the larger reality that this is the wrong bill to provide the country with a much needed stimulus. As for Obama, all he wants is a headline. I have seen the same thing occur in business and it always seems to produce bad results.

  52. Fox News, the Republican propaganda arm which was shockingly much more fair and balanced than other news outlets during the primaries is growing in viewership rapidly. MSNBC, the Obama propaganda arm, is losing viewers.
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    MSNBC is for delusional idiots. People who seek the truth do not go there. CNN is damned near as bad. Buchanan, Scarborough, Dobbs are merely the exceptions that prove the rule. These networks are toxic. That they are losing viewership because of it is hardly surprising. In my world, I have written them out of the book of life.

  53. This time next year, it’s altogether plausible that the recession will still be raging. Will the stimulus therefore be seen to have failed? Or as having succeeded in staving off something worse? The greater risk for Obama, however, is that neither of these perceptions will be foremost in voters’ minds, but that the stimulus will be recalled as just another partisan Washington goat rodeo that accomplished precious little—at a cost of nearly $1 trillion.
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    The four step process described by Sowell in The Vision of The Annointed is on full display here:

    1. Crisis: play the fear card

    2. Solution: their solution–anyone who disagrees is either ignorant or malicious.

    3. Implementation: lo and behold it does not work. In fact it makes the situation worse in terms of its opportunity cost.

    4. Denial: declare victory, ignore contrary evidence, and stress how much worse it would be if it had not been implemented. Cite phony statistics and false prophets.

  54. AS IF it couldn’t be worse…..of course it is!

    Reid blocks bipartisan amendment requiring citizenship verification for stimulus recipients
    By Michelle Malkin • February 8, 2009 10:28 PM

    GOP Sen. Jeff Sessions and Democrat Sen. Ben Nelson attempted several times to bring their bipartisan amendment to the floor last week. SA 239 would require local governments and businesses that receive porkulus money to use the federal E-Verify citizenship check system.

    On the House side, a long term extension of the E-Verify program passed there 407-2 (Conservative Oasis).

    But Democrat Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid refused to allow it to come to the floor. Now, we’re headed for cloture.

    “While it is difficult to believe that Senate leaders might insist that illegal aliens have the same chance at new stimulus jobs as unemployed Americans, this scenario may now be at hand,” says Roy Beck of Numbers USA. “SA 239 is now unlikely to receive a floor vote.”

    The provision is not included in the Sellout Substitute Amendment forged by the Turncoat Caucus and the Democrats.

    Who’s Dingy Harry looking out for?

    “Undocumented Americans,” of course.

    michellemalkin.com/2009/02/08/reid-blocks-bipartisan-amendment-requiring-citizenship-checks-for-stimulus-recipients/

  55. Well, many of his grasss roots people might now be out of a job, or not able to find a job. The other’s who were drinking the kook aid, might have lost their jobs. If this is true by next year, it will be interesting to view how that group feels.

    Visions of Hope and change are great when your personel life is OK. When you cannot pay your mortgage, and they have thrown Trillions at it, your vision might clear.

    In my family we have three young people (In or near 40). One lost their job at least two years ago, and has not found anything comparable since (might lose a house). One is soon probably going to lose their job (has a house payment). One just got a good job after one year looking for one. However, the new job might fail depending on what happens to the economy. They are renting and paying a housepayment, as the house cannot be sold and they had to move for the job

    These are people that had good jobs in the past. Everywhere I go, I over hear conversations of so and so just lost their job.

    People are losing confidence, and in today’s world we expect quicker results than we have in the past. I really don’t want a year from now to be the same or worse. however, I am not confident that the actions they are looking at will result in the giant stimulus needed

    One year from now will be critical.

  56. Reid blocks bipartisan amendment requiring citizenship verification for stimulus recipients
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    If this is the final word on the matter, and it is not part of the reconciliation process, then dirty harry has handed the republicans a good issue for 2010 and taxpayers may begin to wonder whether there is really any point in paying taxes. And for people like me who have a hard time understanding the motives of both parties on the topic of illegal immigration, it begins to look like they are two wings of the same bird as Lou Dobbs is fond of saying. It causes us to wonder whether the common goal here is not in fact a North American Union to compete with the EU and China, and a corresponding merger of soverignty. Hillary was willing to resist that, whereas Obama is not. The proof can be seen in her commitment in Ohio to reexamine NAFTA vs Obama deceit on the matter in publicly agreeing with her and then sending Goolsbee to privately reassure the Canadians that he was lying.

  57. Here We Go Again
    J.G. Thayer – 02.09.2009 – 6:28 AM

    Amazing. Yet another Obama appointee apparently has tax problems. Pardon me, usher, but I think I’ve seen this movie before.

    This time it’s White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. It appears that the former congressman found a handy way to save money. Most members of Congress find themselves having to support two households — one in their home district, and one in or around DC. Some members, in the past, have ended up sharing apartments or town houses. Emanuel took that one step further: he moved into the home of his colleague, Rosa DeLauro (D-CT), staying there for five years. Rent-free.

    To most people, this is “imputed income” — non-financial gifts or compensation that should be reported to the IRS. Emanuel and DeLauro defend their conduct by saying that House ethics rules permit “hospitality between colleagues.”

    Apparently they are not familiar with the old aphorism that “guests, like fish, start to smell after three days.”

    And no, there was no impropriety or hanky-panky going on. Representative DeLauro is happily married to one Stan Greenberg. Mr. Greenberg, by the way, is not a lobbyist. No, he’s the next best thing in DC — he’s a pollster. And, by wild coincidence, Greenberg’s polling company (Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research) lists both Emanuel and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (which Emanuel headed) as clients.

    Let’s see… a Democratic representative gets free housing from a pollster who enjoys some very lucrative contracts from both that representative and a very influential group said representative heads up? Why, I’d never even suggest some kind of a quid pro quo arrangement.

    All through his campaign, Obama and his surrogates touted his great judgment and his commitment to change and transparency. Yet more and more of his nominees keep getting exposed for their ethical lapses, especially in the area of doing their “patriotic duty” (as Vice President Biden puts it) and paying “their fair share” of taxes.

    There are numerous explanations for this pattern of behavior, but here’s a theory that’s becoming less laughable: There simply aren’t enough Democrats who are both competent and honest to fill all the vacancies in Obama’s administration.

    (Hat tip: the inimitable Rob Port of Say Anything)

    commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/thayer/53871

  58. NMF two years ago there were 30 million resumes on the internet.
    Today I will bet you it is at least 100 million. I assume that is a world wide figure. And if you look at it in terms of a global labor market of 2 billion people perhaps it is not that large. But it is growing here and elsewhere. The problem is as much structural as cylical. Structurally our economy is unbalanced in favor of information based industries which do not produce or nurture a middle class–and away from manufacturing which through unions did. And of course the finanacial landscape is littered with one Ponzi scheme after another which is the inevitable result of a massive failure of oversight. I have a friend who who designs sound investment programs for pension trusts. He has stressed to me repeatedly the lack of proper oversight as a key factor in our current crisis. I must tell you the failure of Chris Cox surprised the hell out of me. I had been favorably impressed with him prior to this debacle

  59. Here We Go Again
    J.G. Thayer – 02.09.2009 – 6:28 AM

    Amazing. Yet another Obama appointee apparently has tax problems. Pardon me, usher, but I think I’ve seen this movie before.
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    To quote no lesser a personage than the late Leona Helmsley “taxes are for little people”.

    It would appear that the flawless Obama transition team subscribes to the same philosophy. Since they are “flawless” according to big media they must have known.

    How could it be otherwise?

  60. The UK Telegraph sees the issue clearly here – governing and campaigning are VERY different – and Precious is now displaying his inadequacies in graphic fashion –
    Barack Obama is a novice – and it shows
    After a rocky start, the new President knows he has to seize back the political agenda, says Toby Harnden.
    By Toby Harnden
    Last Updated: 6:47PM GMT 08 Feb 2009
    During last year’s epic election campaign, Hillary Clinton said that in the White House “there is no time for on-the-job training”. Joe Biden, too, remarked that the presidency was “not something that lends itself to on-the-job training”. Both were aiming barbs at their then primary opponent. Mrs Clinton has since brought what she would refer to as her “lifetime of experience” to the role of Secretary of State, while Mr Biden has traded 36 years in the Senate for the vice-presidency. And the rookie they derided is President.

    Now, the words of his former rivals are returning to haunt President Obama. After a distinctly rocky start to his presidency, he has admitted he “screwed up” and is returning to one thing in his political career that he has perfected – campaigning. In Elkhart, Indiana, today and Fort Myers, Florida, tomorrow, Mr Obama will try to seize back control of the political agenda with question-and-answer sessions with voters in two of the swing states that gave him victory.

    Already, however, he is struggling, and the product he is now selling is not himself but a near-trillion-dollar economic “stimulus” package loaded with pet Democratic spending projects that has awakened slumbering Republicans in Congress and is now supported by barely a third of Americans. In between the Indiana and Florida stops, he will return to the White House for a prime-time press conference in which he will appeal directly to citizens and seek to rekindle the magic of his campaign.

    Which President Obama will turn up remains to be seen. Last week, he began as a wide-eyed bystander buffeted by events as he lost his key confidant, Tom Daschle, amid an uproar over $128,000 in unpaid taxes for a chauffeur and limousine. Mr Obama and his advisers believed the oversight did not matter because the over-arching virtue of the new White House could not be doubted. He was wrong and seemed out of touch in believing that ordinary people would not notice the contrast between the practice of politics as usual and his campaign slogans against it.

    The White House is now in damage-control mode. After Robert Gibbs, Mr Obama’s spokesman, was lampooned by Jon Stewart on The Daily Show as a non-answering automaton in the mode of President George W Bush’s press secretaries, former campaign strategist David Axelrod was dispatched to television studios to make the stimulus case. However, this was tinkering around the edges.

    The American presidency is a platform without parallel, offering the incumbent a degree of instinctive deference and goodwill and a megaphone that will amplify his voice across 50 states and the world beyond. But it is also a lonely perch for the timid.

    In the early days of his presidency, Mr Obama has seemed passive and uncertain. Instead of drawing up his own economic stimulus bill, he sub-contracted the job to Democrats on Capitol Hill. They opted to spend money on projects for contraception and beautifying the National Mall – their doorstep – and gave Republicans an plenty of ammunition against the package.

    Slipped into the small print was a “Buy America” provision that sent shock waves through capitals from Brussels to Beijing and triggered fears of trade wars and a new American protectionism. It was hard for the President to defend a bill he perhaps didn’t fully support himself. He neither championed the package as imperfect but essential, nor sought to make meaningful changes to it. Instead, he attempted to charm Republican centrists with his own personality and the trappings of the White House by inviting them over for cocktails and a Super Bowl party. It didn’t work. Of 219 Republicans on Capitol Hill, only three voted for the bill. Introducing a $500,000 pay cap for some Wall Street executives was empty – and possibly counter-productive – populism.

    Mr Obama cast aside his emollient talk to deliver the red meat at Williamsburg. It was an abrupt change of tone that will come with a price, just as the double standard of preaching about the evils of influence-peddling and lobbyists and then giving Mr Daschle a pass on his tax evasion will not be forgotten by many ordinary Americans.

    “We lived it for two years, and we forgot it for a couple of weeks,” Mr Gibbs remarked ruefully when asked about why Team Obama rationalised away their own principles because they wanted their old friend in the Cabinet.

    The activists who formed the backbone of Mr Obama’s election campaign appear less than energised. Few answered his call for house-party gatherings at the weekend to build support for the economic stimulus plan. Mr Obama could be forgiven a little nostalgia. Saturday Night Live gently ribbed him, imagining a national address in which he breaks off talking about economic gloom to say: “Remember election night. Grant Park in Chicago. Nice weather. Oprah. That white guy Oprah was crying on. Good times.”

    Governing, as Mr Obama is finding out, is not like an election campaign. Mr Bush’s failures will give him some leeway and his transformative appeal remains potent. But making decisions and operating the levers of power is something completely new to him. And it shows.

  61. The United States has many enemies around the world. That much is clear. And in most cases we have a strategy to deal with them. But it strikes me that none of those enemies are nearly as insidious and detrimental to our future over the long term than big media based on what it has become. To some people that probably sounds like a ridiculous statement. After all they do not engage in acts of physical violence if that is the measure of a threat. But the propanada they spew forth on a routine basis, their adamant refusal to examine the opposing case and their censorship of relevant information is evil. If Napoleon was correct that the pen is mightier than the sword then we have more to fear from them than from our other enemies around the world.

  62. wbboei

    I have heard enomonic discussion that we were going to a service vs a product based economy. I did not understand how that might influence our economy. Now I do. A percentage of service based is good, but in hard times, you need that middle class manufacturing.

    What about a freeze on any international job or outsourcing out of country? Right now Intel has a plant which is being built in China. I think it was held up due to the recent earthquake over there so it might not be opened.

    I have to tell you, it must be this country first. If we don’t do that, we will go under the bus, and believe me the nations we helped will not help or save us.

    Germany certainly feels that way. Recently they said that Siemens would reduced by so many people. The union stepped in, and said volunteer retirements or volunteer quits, but that is it. The rest of those cuts went guess where. American took its hit without anyone protecting them, or it even being noticed in the American newspapers.

    We cannot not cut overseas purchases, and take the cuts coming from international companies here.

    I am liberal, but I also know that this country needs to survive.

  63. General Motors to Invest $1 Billion in Brazil Operations — Money to Come from U.S. Rescue Program
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    Poopsie, Waxman, Miller . . . you stupid asses. I can picture the singer Dianne Carol singing the broadway tune No Strings.

    Mr. Obama, sir, oh great one, oh Messiah. Mr Abs. When you told Joe the Plummer that you planned to spread his wealth you weren’t kidding.

  64. NMF: I agree with each of your points. This zeigeist is neither liberal or conservative. It is corporate and it positions itself as either conservative or liberal depending upon the particular cycle of history we happen to be in. Suckers fall for it–be they bushies or bots.

  65. A shadow govt. within the WH? Looks that way to me. I still don ‘t trust 0bama to forget what happened in the primary between Hillary and him and to give her fair shake after that.

    americanthinker.com/2009/02/the_bureaucratic_coup_targetin.html

  66. It would be harsh medicine but it might be a great tonic for our economy and our sanity if some of the bad boys (banks, insurance companies, wall street tycoons and big media barons who have done such a lamentable job and brought us to this sad state) were NOT bailed out. They have every right to fail and go to hell. They have earned it. We would be a lot better off if (in the absence of good regulation) we let the system cleanse itself with a spate of monstrous collapses. Those who say that the system couldn’t stand such a shock are full of it. The Great Depression helped to clean out a lot of the bad boys who were gorging so outlandishly in the late twenties.
    What could be so wrong if George Soros went bust? I think I can deal with that.

  67. blue Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am

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    I agree. But given their track records, I think they would also find a way to fatten up their own accounts and then leave the public holding the bag.

  68. Potomac’s Postpartisan Depression
    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: February 7, 2009
    Once upon a time, America thought Prince Charming would glide in and kiss her, reviving her from a coma induced by a poison apple of greed, deceit, carelessness, recklessness and overreaching.
    But then the prince got distracted, seeing Lincoln in the mirror, and instead gave the kiss of life to a bunch of flat-lining Republican tax-cut fetishists.
    Somehow the most well-known person on the planet lost control of the economic message to someone named Eric Cantor.
    (And Larry Summers ended up making Henry Paulson seem riveting.)
    In his first weeks padding around a White House that still has nails on the walls waiting for new pictures, and phone and e-mail kinks, Barack Obama could not locate the bully pulpit and ended up being bullied.
    Republicans, pulled out of their existential lethargy and re-energized by the president’s charm offensive, immediately mounted an offensive against him. Just as Michael Bloomberg learned the perils of cuddling a groundhog when it bit him, Mr. Obama learned the perils of coddling conservatives.
    Pete Sessions, a conservative from Waco, Tex., and the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, warned that they could become an insurgency, having learned more about insurgencies “because of the Taliban.” (Yes, that’s the same Taliban that was allowed to regenerate by bumbling Republican leaders.)
    Obama advisers are right to crow that the president’s civility to Republicans will be popular with the public. But the carrot-stick ratio was way out of whack. Mr. Obama should have written up a kosher (as in pork-free) bill that Americans could trust — and Republicans couldn’t as easily mock — and jammed it through.
    It’s a huge, scary moment, with trillions of dollars and millions of jobs flying out the window. Vice President Joseph Biden, in another Cassandra moment, told House Democrats that even if the White House does everything right, “there’s still a 30 percent chance we’ll get it wrong.”
    The president and his aides seemed a bit snow-blinded by the White House, overwhelmed and slow to understand that they were losing the high ground and the whip hand. They couldn’t even get their pick for commerce secretary, the Republican Senator Judd Gregg, to vote for their stimulus bill; he said he would abstain.
    Those in the president’s circle were too caught up in more narrow concerns, like how their relationships with the president and the capital were shaking out; whether they could breathe on this new planet with the rarefied air of cool planes and helicopters; and whether W.’s mind-boggling mountain of garbage would trash Democratic candidates in 2010 and doom Mr. Obama to one term.
    “I would rather do the right thing and have one term than be mediocre and have two,” Mr. Obama told House Democrats at their Williamsburg retreat Thursday night. The lawmakers had been feeling disillusioned that they were carrying Mr. Obama’s water on the bill, while Obama aides triangulated and promised that the bill would “improve” in the Senate.
    Nancy Pelosi told her leadership team that she had told the president, “I don’t mind you driving the bus over me, but I don’t appreciate your backing it up and running over me again and again.”
    The Obama wizards’ tactical skills seemed to desert them. The White House often ends up making its inhabitants tone-deaf (or even nuts), but this was an unusually quick trip into the cognitive third dimension.
    Asked what he had learned from the Daschle fiasco, one Obama official replied, “Not to rationalize.”
    They knew that the choice of Tom Daschle conflicted with the Obama change message, but they preferred to focus on how much the president owed his friend and how good they thought he would be in the job.
    They wanted him because he was the ultimate insider and they lost him because he was the ultimate insider. Now Daschle’s punishment for getting too rich with special interests will be to get richer with special interests.
    Obama aides call the morass a good wake-up call, and the president seems more aware of how the White House weather can cloud your thinking. Maybe that’s why he keeps trying to pop out to get a breath of fresh air — at an elementary school, at the Kennedy Center, at Camp David.
    On Friday, a reporter asked Robert Gibbs if the president was already feeling cooped up.
    “He’s a bit of a restless soul,” Gibbs said, laughing. “His idea of a crazy day is to take a long walk.”
    A long walk where? somebody asked.
    “In solitude and isolation,” Gibbs replied.
    President Obama doesn’t need to leave his new home to be isolated. That’s the specialty of the White House.

  69. newsweek.com/id/182650/page/1
    Obama’s Vietnam
    The analogy isn’t exact. But the war in Afghanistan is starting to look disturbingly familiar.

  70. nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/goodwin/index.html
    Stumbling out the gate: Barack Obama flubs his first big test

    It’s not easy to waste a mandate and a honeymoon at the same time, but President Obama seems determined to try. You know he’s off to a lousy start when his most favorable reviews came after he said, “I screwed up.”
    Did he ever, and not just once. If he keeps going this way, America will be saying, “We screwed up.”
    He’s our President, it’s a horribly dangerous time at home and abroad and we desperately need him to succeed. But he can’t be successful unless he builds a broad swath of public trust in his leadership. So far, he’s going backward.
    It’s very early, but it’s worrisome that Obama has stumbled almost since he took the oath. His inauguration speech was uninspired and next to nothing has gone right for him. Already he looks like he needs a vacation.
    The historic young President with the political wind at his back has quickly turned testy toward those who disagree with him. Despite promises to the contrary, he’s been so rigid that the defeated Republicans are relevant again.
    Obama’s fumbled rollout is surprising, given a smooth and skillful transition. He appointed key players early, talked repeatedly of being ready “to hit the ground running” and was eager to get off to a fast start.
    Maybe too fast. His vetting of top aides was shockingly sloppy, and he has been concerned primarily with the speed of the stimulus bill, not its contents. The failed vetting produced a string of embarrassments over tax dodgers and influence peddlers, and his embrace of the flawed stimulus has put him on the wrong side of the American public, with only about 1 in 3 voters with him.
    Even more surprising, his famously cool temperament is AWOL. He has been visibly frustrated at what he calls needless delay, despite a rapid timetable given the whopping price tag of the stimulus legislation and the uncertainty of its impact.
    He should genuinely welcome those who want to make the bill better. After all, there’s never been much doubt he would get a huge package passed, so he doesn’t need to make enemies over it. The only real question is whether it will succeed.
    But unable to get his way quickly, he pulled rank with a snippy, “I won.” When the Senate insisted on debate, he turned to harsh attacks and campaign-style rhetoric. Some insiders already are grumbling about disarray and arrogance.
    So much for a change in Washington.
    What happened to the gracious uniter, the man who held a dinner to honor opponent John McCain and embraced the concept of a team of rivals? That seems like ancient history as he and McCain now are sniping at each other.

  71. canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8298
    I’m not buying the Obama stinkulus
    Obama’s Engine of Change: Runaway Train?

    SNIP-
    What I saw on Barack Obama’s face when he took to the stump to try and convince us to eat a trillion dollar piece of dung was not leadership, nor confidence, which is what Americans demand from their President. It was fear. It was panic. It was desperation. It was arrogance.

    The surest way to turn off Americans is to lead like you ran your campaign. When the most powerful leader on Earth uses words like imminent catastrophe, calamity or disaster to describe his own country, in attempts to scare us all into accepting his cockamamie idea, he projects weakness and indecision.
    His unfortunate speech to the Arab world, in which he called the US a nation of, among other things, non-believers (directly translated as “Kafir”, a social and religious status punishable by death according to strict Islamic interpretation) didn’t help matters either.
    I also warned America that Barack Obama’s commitment to our military forces was nothing more than rhetoric. Friday morning came news that charges were dropped against Abd el Rahim al Nashir, one of the planners of the October 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole (DDG-67) in Yemen, a decision made to spite the military.
    Since when do dead US servicemen just not matter? As a Navy veteran who bled for this country, I am angered beyond comprehension at Barack Obama’s decision to place more importance on liberal politics than the lives of 17 US Navy sailors. I don’t give a damn if this terrorist was tortured, waterboarded or given a warm bath. These 17 Americans were defending their country’s foreign policy overseas and Obama is writing them off simply because he vehemently disagrees with that foreign policy. These sailors were my shipmates and terrorists killed them in one of the opening shots of a war that Obama still refuses to acknowledge; an opening shot that succeeded because the last Democrat to hold that office didn’t want to offend Yemeni’s with even a timidly defensive US Naval posture, such as manned .50 cal. deck guns.
    Barack Obama has thus far put more more thought into what breed of puppy to buy, than when, or even if he should close Guantanamo Bay. He’s put more effort into keeping his Blackberry than keeping his promises to unite the country. Although Democrats may have the votes to shove whatever they wish down our throats, if that’s how they choose to govern, they’re going to find their stranglehold over Washington very short-lived.

    youtube.com/watch?v=_cwZjvQPZEY

  72. djia Says:

    February 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
    AS IF it couldn’t be worse…..of course it is!

    Reid blocks bipartisan amendment requiring citizenship verification for stimulus recipients

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    He doesn’t want to anger the hispanics. He wants and needs their votes.

  73. NMF: there is one further point I would like to make in support of your comments.

    As noted above, the corporate zeitgeist is the problem, and the middle class has no counterbalance to it. At one time it had unions and the democratic party. But that is no longer so.

    The Democratic Party lost its way when Kennedys exectutor Felix Rohatyn convinced the powers that be that it must sell its soul to Wall Street and abandon Roosevelt values plus the blue collar working class they sustained. As William noted at the time Hillary suspended her candidacy under withering attacks by big media and massive betrayals by perceived friends in her own party–this marks the demise of the last great Roosevelt liberal from the national stage. With the rise of Obama who cares so little for the middle class that he refused to meet with them or talk about their plight in the course of his campaign Big Business now had control of both political parties. That guy Wolfe from UBS (a Swiss Bank) who is one of Obamas eight independent advisors was introduced to Obama by Soros, planned his campaign in January 2008 and introduced him to hundreds of global capitalists just like him. If you want to know where that $700 million in campaign contributions came from he would be a person of interest as prosecutors say. That in a nutshell is what the American People are up against. The FEC under Obama has no incentive to chase this issue.

    The power of a union depends on its ability to monopolize a labor market. Most unions today have failed in that objective. Also, they have succumbed to laziness, corruption and successful attacks by right wing zealots encouraged by the dismal science of union busting and Reagans firing of the Air Traffic Controllers. But the core problem has been that unions have failed to develop an adequate response to the employer outsourcing and offshoring. There is however a strategy here that could change that but it is unlikely that they will tap their way through to it successfully. But there is at least a hope.

    The strategy rests on two pillars.

    The first pillar is passage of the Employee Free Choice Act. It is offensive in the narrow sense of the word because it deprives employees of the right to decide whether they want a union privately in a secret ballot election. And it deprives the employer of the existing right to campaign against the union. However, it would increase the ranks of union members exponentially and thus reestablish some equality of bargaining power between capital and labor which has been missing for years. (Note: Obama promised union supporters that he would pursue this legislation but if it gets close he will probably walk away from it at the behest of his corporate handlers).

    The second pillar would be for the union to develop and effective counter strategy against globalization. They could demand poison pill provisions in collective bargaining agreements, provided they were lawful. But the more effective approach would be to develop partnerships with unions in other countries as the Longshoremen have done, and as the Teamsters did in the case of the UPS strike in 1996. Here is how it would work. If a multi national corporation in country A wanted to outsource union jobs in that country then the union would notify its counterpart in country B to put pressure on that employer. Unions would need to be developed in third world countries as well but that could take years.

    To some this will seem too ambitious. But if that is the case then they need to come up with a better idea or else accept the inevitable movement of high paying jobs to other venues. And it isnt just blue collar jobs we are talking about here either. You can buy several securities analysts in New Deli today for the cost of one on Wall Street.

  74. wbboei

    Your knowledge astounds me. I grew up with Union parents, and have seen what management does when allow free reign. I agree, that we will only save the middle class through a strengthening of the unions. The younger generation might just be learning this hard lesson.

  75. Plouffe makes a “surprise visit” to Azerbaijan? Not so fast! Take a closer look

    February 9, 2009 by Procrustes

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

  76. What the banal Modo fails to realize is that she is partially responsible for driving competence out of government, paving the way for this corporate shill and promoting this huckster.

    I am so sorry she is disappointed. But when you are as consumed with the kind of blind hatred toward people like she is the outlook tends to get just a little skewed.

    There can be no prince charming in her miserable existence. If some poor schnook wandered into her bourdoir by mistake, he would beg Jack Kirkovorian to come out of retirement and do one last assisted suicide.

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