Gerald Ford And The End Of Barack Obama

Today, seventeen days after the inauguration, the B.O. administration is almost over.

Barack Obama and his dwindling gang of supporters can dismiss such analysis as premature, but Barack Obama already senses the curtain’s fall.

While many believe that Barack Obama will follow the disasterous tragectory of Jimmy Carter, the Obama model is really the late President Gerald Ford.

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Barack Obama, after only ten days, understood it’s almost over for him. Obama knows “it’s the economy, stupid“.

Without a national economic recovery (to save Obama Dimocrats in the midterm election) by February 2010 at the earliest, and January 2011 at the latest, Obama will be acknowledged by all, even his Big Media masters, to be a failure.

President Barack Obama acknowledged Monday that the fate of his re-election four years from now likely rests on the success of the proposed $825 billion stimulus package.

“A year from now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress. But there’s still going to be some pain out there,” Obama predicted during an interview on NBC’s “Today Show.”

“If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

In acknowledging that his political fortune hinges on the state of the economy, Obama urged the country to be patient in waiting for the stimulus to take effect.

Already, even the high priests of the Church of Obama are committing apostasy. Chris Matthews finally admits there is something stinky in the Church of Obama, and it’s not the incense [Beware, Matthews video at LINK]:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: What we have here is a failure to communicate. Let’s play Hardball. Good evening, I’m Chris Matthews. Leading off tonight, I’ll say it again: this failure to communicate, it’s not just the Daschle problem with not paying taxes or the Geithner problem with not paying taxes or the deputy OBM director’s problem with not paying her taxes. Believe me, it’s bigger than that. I’ve never met a political figure more gifted at communication than Barack Obama. Certainly he was in Kennedy’s league and Reagan’s league.

But here’s the difference: you knew what those presidents were doing once in office. You knew Kennedy wanted the Peace Corps; wanted to put a man on the moon, wanted civil rights. You knew Reagan was out there cutting taxes to make government smaller. What’s Barack Obama doing? He keeps talking about his stimulus package like it’s some big Santa’s bag filled with all sorts of sundry items: extended unemployment benefits, “green” jobs, aid to states. But how on earth does this trillion-dollar grab bag work? How does spending this money—all of it borrowed—repeat, all of it borrowed, going to help the country get moving again? That’s my question. And I’m going to keep asking it.

The hard lesson for Obama supporters, and it is a very hard lesson is this: The problem is Obama AND the Obama message. The hopey-dopey no-red-state-no-blue-state-just-the-United-States message is the real problem. The hopey-dopey Obama message is the problem because without the proper analysis you will never arrive at the proper solution.

We backed Hillary Clinton during the primaries because she was experienced and qualified and was a fighter. We rejected the hopey-dopey message which was really a barely disguised cult of personality.

As we have written over and over again, the reason why there is so much hostility and fighting and unpleasantness in politics today is because the electorate is divided and because the issues matter. The Obama hopey-dopey message that the solution to important issues was personal interaction, just get along, reach across the aisle, invite your opponents to lunch, was and is dopey.

The nasty Obama message that it was those “baggage” laden Clintons that were the problem betrayed the inner ugliness at the core of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama.

The Obama campaign whine, purchased wholesale by the Hopium addled addicts, and repeated at the inaugural that Americans need to put an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics is the elemental misunderstanding of Obama and his Hopium addled dwindling gang of supporters.

Obama’s basic misunderstanding of present day reality is why seventeen days after the inaugural it is so easy to see the end of Barack Obama.

Gerald Ford, was appointed the 38th President after the resignation of Richard Nixon on August 9, 1974. President Ford presided over the worst economy since the Great Depression, with growing inflation and a recession during his tenure.

Gerald Ford was initially a popular president with a George W. Bush Nixon weary nation. At his swearing in Ford proclaimed “Our long national nightmare is over…”

On September 8, 1974, the Gerald Ford presidency effectively ended with the pardon of Richard Nixon. It took just under a month for Ford to effectively destroy a chance of election, neuter his presidency, and go from hero to goat.

Obama fumbled while taking the oath of office at the inaugural (Hillary Clinton did not fumble her oath when Joe Biden made a mess of things). The fumbled oath was a harbringer of things to come. Since then Obama has been flailing like a squid in inky waters.

Within those inky waters, the Republicans have recovered from their November electoral losses. The remaining Republicans in congress come from the most Republican districts and are the least likely to fear Obama. The Republicans can also take great cheer from the united front they exhibited in the House of Representatives vote on the flim-flam “stimulus” bill.

The Republicans will also concentrate their fire on Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and ignore the ignorable Barack Obama. The Republican strategy includes coordinated attacks on THE essential bill for Barack Obama. Without the “stimulus” bill in essentially an Obama dictated form, Barack Obama will face a 2010 bloodbath, a fully energized NObama coalition, and an electoral nightmare in 2012.

It must be noted that even if the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” bill is enacted into law – it will not work, it will not stimulate the economy. But at least passage of an Obama dictated bill will keep Obama somewhat relevant and able to try to tackle his other flim-flams. Without passage of the flim-flam “stimulus” scam, Obama will become an object of derision even by his supporters and friends.

The attacks on the flim-flam “stimulus” scam are having an effect, a strong effect:

Gallup says only 38 percent of Americans support the current version of the stimulus.

WHITE HOUSE PRESSURE: Obama is already becoming frustrated with his Democratic congressional leaders on the stimulus. As Mike Shear and Shailagh Murray report about the White House meeting: “But two Democratic sources with knowledge of the meeting said the president took a blunt tone with the lawmakers, urging them to drop whatever needs to be cut from the bill to gain bipartisan support and to pass Congress soon. One source said Obama appeared to be frustrated by the public perception that the recovery bill was becoming laden with partisan pet projects.”

The Rasmussen poll also shows public antipathy towards the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam with support dropping to 37%; 43% opposed:

Rasmussen’s release of a poll showing more Americans oppose the Democratic proposal than support it set off what seemed like a renewed sense of confidence among GOP members. The new poll numbers offered Republicans some political capital they previously haven’t had, after substantial losses the last two elections.

Obama supporters in elective office understand it is time to run away from the flim-flam “stimulus” scam and turn on each other. The scammers are scurrying:

McCASKILL: I think that there have been some mistakes made [by House Dems]. From my perspective there have been mistakes made on the stimulus bill. There has been such a starvation diet for some of these programs that the appropriators got a little over anxious in the House. They probably did some things they shouldn’t have

The Dimocrats and flim-flam Obama do not have the votes to pass the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam:

Senate Democratic leaders conceded yesterday that they do not have the votes to pass the stimulus bill as currently written and said that to gain bipartisan support, they will seek to cut provisions that would not provide an immediate boost to the economy.

The legislation represents the first major test for President Obama and an expanded Democratic Congress, both of which have made economic recovery the cornerstone of their new political mandate. The stimulus package has now tripled from its post-election estimate of about $300 billion, and in recent days lawmakers in both parties have grown wary of the swelling cost. [snip]

Despite warnings of dire consequences if Congress does not act boldly, Republicans have become resolute in their opposition to what they view as runaway and unnecessary spending in the legislation. And as the total in the Senate version climbs to $900 billion, unease also is stirring among moderate Democrats.

The few moderate Republicans remaining in the Congress are saying NO to the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam:

Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (Maine), a moderate who has been considered the most likely GOP vote in favor of the plan, said yesterday that she cannot support it until items that would not do enough to stimulate the economy or create jobs are dropped.

“They should scrub it,” said Snowe, who voted for the tax-relief portion in the Senate Finance Committee last week. She said many of the provisions were jammed into the legislation by members of the Appropriations Committee who were “trying to short-circuit the normal legislative process.” [snip]

Although some Republicans would prefer to shelve the measure temporarily, hoping that spending demand will cool, other GOP lawmakers would prefer to stay on schedule and find common ground. “There’s sort of political chaos right now,” he conceded.

The momentum to cut spending became apparent in votes on several amendments. First, the Senate fell two votes shy of the 60-vote threshold needed yesterday to add $25 billion for highway projects and transit programs.

Desperate for votes Obama proves to be a clod yet again – he just lost a potentially vital vote in the Senate:

What was I saying yesterday about pro quo?

Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), the president’s pick for Commerce Secretary, just revealed during an interview with CNBC that he would recuse himself from congressional votes while his nomination is being considered by his former Senate colleagues.

Things would be different if he had, for instance, resigned in anticipation of his confirmation. But a cloture vote only succeeds if at least three-fifths of all duly elected and serving members of the Senate vote ‘yes’. With Gregg still seated, the Democrats need 60 votes to end debate, even if he votes ‘present’. If all caucus members vote yes, they have 58. They need two. Gregg could have been one of those two. But of course, Gregg has nothing but the utmost respect his soon-to-be boss–who has, of course, committed to changing Washington–and to vote the way Obama wants him to would appear unseemly.

Aware of his increasing irrelevance and clodishness, Obama is desperate and resorting to George W. Bush style scare tactics to force through the flim-flam “stimulus” bill.

“Let’s not make the perfect the enemy of the essential,” Obama said while acknowledging criticisms of the plan. “A failure to act and to act now will turn crisis into catastrophe and guarantee a longer recession.”

If and when a flim-flam “stimulus” bill ever passes the U.S. Senate, Nancy Pelosi looms:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has signaled that she is not going to simply clear a vastly different Senate bill. But going to conference would make it more likely that the bill will not be completed by the holiday weekend, and Pelosi has threatened to keep her chamber in session if President Obama does not have a stimulus package on his desk by then.

The economy of course is in tatters and government policy is not helping:

The US Treasury on Wednesday opened the floodgates of government bond issuance, revealing plans for a record debt sale in February and more frequent auctions in the months to come.

The announcement came amid growing fears about US government deficits and sent the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note rising to 2.95 per cent, up from just over 2 per cent at the end of December.

The rise in Treasury yields has been pushing mortgage rates higher, complicating efforts to revive the economy. The US Federal Reserve said last week it was “prepared to” buy Treasuries if that would be a “particularly effective” way of reducing private borrowing costs.

The Fed has to be troubled by the fact that mortgage rates have been rising and the buying of Treasuries by the Fed may come sooner than the market expects,” said William O’Donnell, UBS strategist.

Hopium addled addicts are trying to salvage the Obama shipwreck. At The Nation they worry
The Right is Winning Today. Of course this Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam has very little to do with Left/Right politics – It’s The Economy, Stupid!

The legislation is a big priority of President Obama, who devoted his radio address last Sunday to making the case for prompt passage of the bill. All major liberal non-profit and labor groups are supporting it and several recent polls suggest that a plurality of the American public are generally supportive.

Nonetheless, as Horn reports, “Here in Washington, DC, the word on the street is that the Right is killing us with phone calls to Congress. One congressperson said the calls are running 100 to 1 against the Obama economic recovery plan. The legislation is now on the Senate floor. If Senators perceive that Americans side with Obama in this fight, that will strengthen the power of progressives in the debate and we’ll get a good bill. If, on the other hand, Senators are feeling the heat from conservatives, then our advocates will be weakened and we’ll get a lousy bill. That’s just the way things go on Capitol Hill.”

As the invaluable Fact-esque blog wrote yesterday “This is the Superbowl of Activism and We’re Losing Big.” Progressives need to hit the phones and fast. Call your Senators toll-free at 1-866-544-7573 and demand immediate passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

We Progressives and Democrats oppose the Barack Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam.

Call 1-866-544-7573 and demand immediate defeat of the Obama flim-flam “stimulus” scam.

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233 thoughts on “Gerald Ford And The End Of Barack Obama

  1. NewMexicoFan Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am SAYS

    So now we have a job he is tied into for 4 years.

    …………………………

    nah within a few months he’s start running for the position of God Almighty, where else there left for him to go up to, become Pope.

  2. Found this quote on another board:

    “HuffPost is doing an innovative project where they solicit citizen readers to analyze portions of the stim bill to see how it’s being modified. So far they have close to 400 readers on board. Some of their findings:
    Quote:
    The sifters found some noteworthy nuggets in the bill. Combing through his section of the bill, law professor and health care author Timothy Jost noticed that the Senate had removed the House provision that would allow people 55 and over who are laid off to continue COBRA coverage at a subsidized rate until they’re 65 and eligible for Medicare. The House version also made folks who were laid off temporarily eligible for Medicaid; the Senate version strips that out, Jost found. Every one percent increase in unemployment throws more than a million people into the ranks of the uninsured.

    Our Pentagon consultant broke the spending differences into a spreadsheet and also found a nugget in the bill giving Filipino World War II veterans $198 million….He said that his “pork-o-meter went off” and he did some rough math. “For U.S. citizens, [the payment is] $15,000 a head and for non-citizens it’s $9,000 a head. Considering that there are only 1.6 million Filipinos in the U.S. and only 30 percent of those are over the age of 55, and to qualify you would have to be at least 78 years old, the lion’s share of this money would be going to non-citizens. This will not create jobs or stimulate the economy,” he wrote.

    Now, I’ll go read the new article.

  3. I wish they would not rush this monster bill through. It does not seem very well thought out, and it does seem to have too much pork.

  4. Just as I noted in the last blog. Obama has never stayed in a job long enough to be tested. He never had to perform.

    Well he is noW front and center in a very big economic crisis, and guess what? PERFORMANCE AND EXPERIENCE COUNT.

  5. Without the computer skills, and blogs we have today, they would be getting away with this crap. The reps and Senators don’t even bother to read the bills. In addition, it does not look like their staff do either.

    Thank good for people in the public willing to do this. They are probably finding out for the first time about some of this stuff. How can you represent your people, when no one on your staff has read the bill. Do you get paid those 6 figures for just taking order from your Party? Sure looks like it.

  6. Bravo Admin! Well said!

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    And over at that assinine CNN last night, one of CNN’s White House goats was repeating like a mantra that “obama is certain he will have the votes by Friday” over and over again.

    His ship is taking on lots of water!

  7. Pelosi in spotlight during battle over stimulus

    Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

    Thursday, February 5, 2009

    The drama over President Obama’s pricey stimulus package has put House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at center stage. And when the curtain comes down on the final plan, the reviews may come to this: Did she play the uniter or the divider?

    Pelosi, who has consistently talked about working across the aisle, led the charge last week as the initial $819 billion version of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act emerged from the House – approved without a single Republican vote.

    Republicans managed what some had thought impossible: a show of unity and steely resistance to the speaker little more than a week after the popular Democratic president took the oath of office.

    Fired up by a Rush Limbaugh-led charge against what they called a “Pelosi-Reid” pork-laden package, GOP leaders took to the airwaves and the blogs to lambaste items such as $335 million in funding for education against sexually transmitted diseases and a makeover of the National Mall. They talked up the need for more tax relief, which they said would bolster the economy and howled that they were shut out of the process.

    “The Republicans who seemed so lost and so in disarray all of a sudden grasped the upper hand,” said Hoover Institution research fellow Bill Whalen. “They’ve managed to change the focus from what the package will do to what’s in the package – waste and pork.”

    With new Gallup polls showing that only 38 percent of Americans support the plan without major changes – and nearly 80 percent believe the current plan will not stimulate the economy enough – it now appears the president “is slowly losing the high ground on this,” he said.

    “Speaker Pelosi lost round one in the message war,” agrees GOP strategist Patrick Dorinson. “She misread the election results. They were overwhelming for Barack Obama, but Congress is still languishing with a 27 percent approval rating.” He said that Pelosi appeared to take Obama’s approval as a signal her party could “make a grab bag of Democratic wish lists” and add them to the package, he said. “Republicans rightly pointed out the hypocrisy.”

    “The message that is getting out there is that you can put the label stimulus on anything you want – but the devil is in the details,” said Jon Fleischman, publisher of the popular FlashReport.org GOP Web site. “With Republicans unanimously opposing the plan, it made everyone step back and say: What was so egregious that you couldn’t get one Republican on board?”

    And now, thanks to Pelosi, “the president is off to a rough start,” said GOP strategist Rob Stutzman. He said Republicans used a classic playbook, respectfully disagreeing with Pelosi’s messaging and then “getting the speaker to defend contraceptives.”

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/04/MNV015MEHT.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1

  8. Sen. Reid Keeps His Eye Out for Nevada Article

    By BRODY MULLINS and ELIZABETH WILLIAMSON

    WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is leading the fight to push President Barack Obama’s economic-stimulus plan through the chamber by week’s end. He’s also working to make sure that his home state of Nevada benefits from the nearly $900 billion plan.

    Mr. Reid, a Democrat, is pushing a proposal that would help finance improvements at Las Vegas’s McCarran International Airport, and he’s backing what could be a multibillion-dollar incentive for Las Vegas casinos and a broad range of corporations to buy back their debt.

    Efforts by Mr. Reid and other Republican and Democratic senators to add home-state provisions to the stimulus bill this week pose a challenge to efforts to rein in the cost of the program. Lawmakers — particularly those up for re-election like Mr. Reid — see the stimulus plan as an opportunity to help voters back home. The Senate’s rules, which typically require that proposals get 60 votes to pass, encourage lawmakers to support each other’s home-state projects.

    Sen. Reid has “a long record of fighting to ensure Nevada gets its fair share. He makes no apologies for that,” said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Mr. Reid. The legislation “benefits Nevada and the nation by making important, job-creating investments in renewable energy and transportation, among other key priorities,” he said.

    For the past few weeks, Mr. Reid has worked behind the scenes on a plan backed by a broad range of industries that would allow companies to pay lower tax rates when they refinance their debt. The provision is strongly backed by Las Vegas casinos, including MGM Mirage and Wynn Resorts Ltd.

    Last week, Mr. Reid worked with his Nevada colleague, Republican Sen. John Ensign, to include one version of the debt-buyback provision in the stimulus plan in the Senate Finance Committee. Mr. Reid’s spokesman said the senator got involved because he “heard from businesses in the state that the current tax treatment for cancellation of debt is hindering their ability to restructure their debt so they can move forward.”

    This week, Mr. Reid has helped a group of Republican and Democratic senators who are trying to iron out a compromise on the provision. The senators hope to add the compromise to the final bill in the next week.

    Separately, Mr. Reid backs a complicated measure that would allow county officials in Nevada to reduce debt by refinancing construction at the Las Vegas airport with tax-preferred, private-activity bonds.

    In an open letter to fellow Nevada residents on his Web site, Mr. Reid, like other senators, makes it clear that bringing the bill’s spending home is his goal. “Putting our economy back on track is my top priority, and I look forward to working with President Obama to create meaningful solutions to Nevada’s problems,” he wrote.

    Dozens of other senators have sought to add their own measures to the stimulus plan.

    Last week, Democratic Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas failed to win approval for an extension of tax incentives for her home-state timber industry. On Tuesday, California Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer failed to win a majority for a provision backed by Silicon Valley high-technology firms and home-state drug companies that would have allowed them to bring overseas profits back to the U.S. at reduced tax rates.

    On Wednesday, Sen. Patty Murray (D., Wash.) fought to change the way transportation funds are doled out in a way that could benefit home-state interests. New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer this week sent a news release to constituents outlining his plan to direct millions in new federal funds to public-transportation projects in New York City. And Florida Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson angled to include tax incentives for citrus growers.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB123379350206949971.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  9. news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090205/pl_politico/18444
    Obama losing the stimulus message war

    “…And it seems more apparent each day that the nascent Obama Administration isn’t fully prepared for the task at hand…” and that he is having trouble, “Learning to play well with others.”

  10. Admin: . . . The hard lesson for Obama supporters, and it is a very hard lesson is this: The problem is Obama AND the Obama message. The hopey-dopey no-red-state-no-blue-state-just-the-United-States message is the real problem
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    Within the realm of the “Illionis Combine” there are no real dems-no real repugs–just the combine–everybodys gotta eat.

    Its the only political model he knows. PAX Obama. To dissent from it is heresy. To worship at the alter is to be rewarded–until he no longer needs you and then you find yourself under the bus.

    It comes back to the question my friend asked a few nights ago: what will he do to the country when he realizes that the economy is not fixable? When he finds that govening is more difficult than the was led to believe. When the things he does do not alleviate pain? When he becomes the brunt of jokes–although it is mild now. Play the race card? Not unlikely.

    People have wondered what is behind the Mona Lisa smile. Today they might just as easily wonder what is behind Mr Obama’s Benito Mussolini pose–chin lifted, head tilted, looking down. Avanti–where and to what? Echo answereth not.

  11. Sen. Barbara Boxer failed to win a majority for a provision backed by Silicon Valley high-technology firms and home-state drug companies that would have allowed them to bring overseas profits back to the U.S. at reduced tax rates.
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    ???????? Is Boxer as crazy as she looks? If they could do that why not transfer their entire operation over seas–like Haliburton. Corporations do things like that partly for tax avoidance reasons.

  12. From NYT:
    WASHINGTON — Anxious over the ballooning size of the proposed economic stimulus package, now at more than $900 billion, lawmakers in both parties are working on a last-minute plan to strip $200 billion from the bill. The effort is being led by two centrist senators — Ben Nelson, Democrat of Nebraska, and Susan Collins, Republican of Maine.

    Among the initiatives that could be cut are $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts, $14 million for cyber security research by the Homeland Security Department, $1 billion for the National Science Foundation, $400 million for research and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases, $850 million for Amtrak and $400 million for climate change research. But so far, none of the suggestions come close to being enough to shrink the package on the scale proposed.

    The final Senate vote on the stimulus package, expected late on Thursday, looms as a major test of President Obama’s ability to build bipartisan consensus, especially given his extraordinary personal lobbying effort. He has made numerous telephone calls in support of the package, visited Republicans on Capitol Hill, and held meetings in the Oval Office on Wednesday with moderate lawmakers, including Ms. Collins and Mr. Nelson.

    3w dot nytimes.com/2009/02/06/us/politics/06stimulus.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print

  13. “The final Senate vote on the stimulus package, expected late on Thursday, looms as a major test of President Obama’s ability to build bipartisan consensus, especially given his extraordinary personal lobbying effort.”

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    No! It looms as the biggest test of obama’s ability to think and talk at the same time. It looms as the biggest test of his non-leadership skills for the biggest job in the country.

    What a time to be learning on the job. The man with zilch experience for governing is going down!

  14. I wish they would not rush this monster bill through. It does not seem very well thought out, and it does seem to have too much pork.
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    The last time they rushed through a bill like they are trying to do now was the financial bail out bill and in the process of rushing it through they failed to provide proper controls over the disbursement of public funds and no provision for taking it back if it was used for some other purpose than the intended one–like bonuses, jet airplanes, buying other banks but not freeing up credit. In a word, when Congress
    acts in haste, they invariably fuck up.

    Reid has pledged to have a bill by this weekend. Reid also pledged Burris would never be seated.

  15. Admin: I tried the number and what you get is this pro bambi drivel and then you push 1 to be transferred to your senator and then the circuits are busy.

    All it requires is two calls–one to each senator. I guess the answer is to google your senators, get the number of their dc office and call them direct. I wish there was a way to send them emails.

    My point will be we need a stimulus plan but not this one.

  16. Wbboei, that particular phone number is up for those who want to call toll free. It’s supposed to be a pro-Obama line, but that does not mean opponents can’t use it. Let them pay for our calls.

  17. Obama is whining on TV. He said “The time for talk is over.” 🙂 He’s trying to sound authoritative but comes off as pleading and bogus courage.

    BTW, he is getting bags under his eyes already, particularly under the right eye.

  18. How can they be expected to perform the vital duties of Congress at the workplace and not a resort? Only the ordinary people (as Obama refers to us) actually work at work! Another example of stupid is as stupid does.
    Kind of a joke with Hussein chastizing Wall Street for junkets but our elected Washington buffoons Do as I do.
    What hypocrisy! The Democrats in Congress are criticizing companies for spending on expensive retreats on Monday and then hooking out for a taxpayer funded junket to Kingsmill on Friday. Are they really that stupid, or just too arrogant to care?

    http://www.nfmpolitico.com/khou/2009/02/04/house-retreats-during-econ-crisis/

    “It’s more than a little disingenuous to holler about AIG’s lavish retreat when members – who after being asleep at the switch also bear some responsibility for the crisis – then hold lavish retreats of their own,” Sloan said.

    Members are encouraged to bring their families every year in an effort to get lawmakers get better acquainted. One hundred eleven spouses made the trip to the Republicans’ retreat this year. Family members can participate in the sessions or enjoy a vast menu of other activities which included skiing and sledding at last week’s GOP retreat.

    But Republicans who took the four-and-a-half hour bus ride from Washington passed plenty of signs of a weakened economy. “For Sale” signs dot the winding country highways announcing farms and homes now on the market. Junction Convenience, a gas station on Route 42, stopped selling gas last March when oil prices were still on the rise, a woman at the cash register said.

    Taxpayers fund transportation and other costs for the Democrats’ annual “issues conference.” Last year, the Democratic Caucus paid Amtrak nearly $70,000 for the slow train members took down to Kingsmill, according to quarterly office reports. The office paid similar amounts for travel in 2007 and 2006. Other costs from last year’s retreat include $5,716 for an official photographer and $40,650 for telephones and Internet, according to the same records.

    These costs do not include money budgeted for Capitol Police to lock down Kingsmill or The Homestead. Security will be particularly tight in Williamsburg this week because President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden will both make appearances.

    Common Cause’s Sarah Dufendach said she would rather have taxpayer money than special-interest money funding retreats. But she said this year, both Republicans and Democrats would have been better served by having their retreat locally at a place such as the Library of Congress.
    “It would have been really good PR for both sides to stay home and bring a box lunch,” she said.

  19. Watching Huffington on Olberman( with Chelsea “pimp” caller David Shuster as host) was quite incredible. Huff-N-Puff (again, has anyone ever seen her and Dowd in the same room together) and Shuster trying to put the spin on BO’s disatorous by pointing out how BO took responsibility by saying he was “sorry” and does not hold grudges as he appointed Hillary!!! Huff-N-Puff said these were great lessons for her teenage daughters. It would be laughable, were it not so pathetic.

  20. http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?D=2009-02-05&ID=261689

    The House Democratic Caucus spent more than $500,000 in taxpayer money over the past five years for its annual retreats at resorts in Pennsylvania and Virginia. On Thursday, Democrats will head to the Kingsmill Resort and Spa in historic Williamsburg, Va., for the three-day planning powwow. The resort boasts multiple championship golf courses, a full-service spa and six restaurants.

    Individual lawmakers pay for most of the expenses related to retreat lodging through their campaign committees, but the Democratic Caucus subsidizes some of the costs for what aides consider “official business” — to the tune of nearly $100,000 each year, according to a Democratic aide involved in retreat planning.
    Good thing they aren’t Wall Street bankers. Imagine the outcry …

    For instance, the caucus picks up the hefty transportation tab, as well as the thousands of dollars in expenses each year for guest speakers, food and entertainment, according to financial disbursement records.

    Continued from Page 6

    Democratic leadership sources were reluctant to talk about any aspect of the trip, but they defended it as an important planning session for the entire country. “This retreat is strategic planning for the country,” said Democratic Caucus spokeswoman Emily Barocas. “The president, vice president and three Cabinet secretaries will be meeting with the caucus to plan the direction we are taking the country in.”

    The topic is particularly sensitive this year after several Democratic lawmakers slammed American International Group (AIG) executives for spending more than $440,000 at a company retreat in Monarch Beach, Calif., just days after the federal government bailed the company out with $85 billion in taxpayer funds. Several Democratic lawmakers also excoriated banking and financial companies for flying in corporate jets to Washington to testify before several committees about their need for billions more in bailout money.

  21. How can they be expected to perform the vital duties of Congress at the workplace and not a resort? Only the ordinary people (as Obama refers to us) actually work at work! Another example of stupid is as stupid does.
    Kind of a joke with Hussein chastizing Wall Street for junkets but our elected Washington buffoons Do as I do.
    What hypocrisy! The Democrats in Congress are criticizing companies for spending on expensive retreats on Monday and then hooking out for a taxpayer funded junket to Kingsmill on Friday. Are they really that stupid, or just too arrogant to care?

    “It’s more than a little disingenuous to holler about AIG’s lavish retreat when members – who after being asleep at the switch also bear some responsibility for the crisis – then hold lavish retreats of their own,” Sloan said.

    Members are encouraged to bring their families every year in an effort to get lawmakers get better acquainted. One hundred eleven spouses made the trip to the Republicans’ retreat this year. Family members can participate in the sessions or enjoy a vast menu of other activities which included skiing and sledding at last week’s GOP retreat.

    But Republicans who took the four-and-a-half hour bus ride from Washington passed plenty of signs of a weakened economy. “For Sale” signs dot the winding country highways announcing farms and homes now on the market. Junction Convenience, a gas station on Route 42, stopped selling gas last March when oil prices were still on the rise, a woman at the cash register said.

    Taxpayers fund transportation and other costs for the Democrats’ annual “issues conference.” Last year, the Democratic Caucus paid Amtrak nearly $70,000 for the slow train members took down to Kingsmill, according to quarterly office reports. The office paid similar amounts for travel in 2007 and 2006. Other costs from last year’s retreat include $5,716 for an official photographer and $40,650 for telephones and Internet, according to the same records.

    These costs do not include money budgeted for Capitol Police to lock down Kingsmill or The Homestead. Security will be particularly tight in Williamsburg this week because President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden will both make appearances.

    Common Cause’s Sarah Dufendach said she would rather have taxpayer money than special-interest money funding retreats. But she said this year, both Republicans and Democrats would have been better served by having their retreat locally at a place such as the Library of Congress.
    “It would have been really good PR for both sides to stay home and bring a box lunch,” she said.

  22. Telephone numbers. From cspan dot org, you can click on ‘resources’ then ‘congress/legislature’, then on congressional directory. Brings up screen with place toward bottom to enter last name of congress person you want. Returns with name(s). Click on names to get their info. Nice and quick once you get in. Believe there is link to each webform as well.
    ———————
    Just watched local news (Wilkes Barre PA). Crawl had this statement: Senators meet behind closed doors in effort to salvage Obama’s stimulus package.
    I’m taking some pleasure in their use of the word salvage.

  23. More evidence that SS is on the chopping block:

    February 05, 2009
    Gregg Will Help Move Entitlement Reform
    By David Broder

    snip

    For now, recruiting Gregg for Commerce is scant consolation for the loss of Daschle. But in months to come, Gregg will be worth celebrating. He is one of the smart guys on Capitol Hill, especially when it comes to fiscal policy. And he provides Obama with a third strong Republican Cabinet member, joining Defense Secretary Bob Gates and Ray LaHood at Transportation.

    Gregg and North Dakota Sen. Kent Conrad, respectively, the top Republican and Democrat on the Budget Committee, have been pushing for the creation of a bipartisan commission that would tackle the looming bankruptcy of the three big entitlement programs — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Conrad told me he deeply regrets the departure of his partner and does not know where to find a substitute.

    But help may be on the way. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the No. 3 man in the Senate Republican leadership, quietly joined the Budget Committee last month. When I asked him why, he said it was to “help move the Gregg-Conrad commission proposal forward.”

    Moreover, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader of the Senate, told the National Press Club that a bipartisan deal on entitlements is something he thinks can and should happen in this Congress.

    Obama said the same thing when he visited The Washington Post just before the inauguration, and now he has in Gregg someone who can help him lobby Congress to move that project forward.

    The problem is likely to be in the House, where Speaker Nancy Pelosi remains opposed to the commission idea and where Republicans are adamant against considering tax hikes along with benefit reductions in any kind of “grand bargain.”

    It will be a heavy lift, but there are willing hands.

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/gregg_will_help_move_entitleme.html

  24. SS on the chopping block:

    February 05, 2009
    Gregg Will Help Move Entitlement Reform
    By David Broder

    snip

    For now, recruiting Gregg for Commerce is scant consolation for the loss of Daschle. But in months to come, Gregg will be worth celebrating. He is one of the smart guys on Capitol Hill, especially when it comes to fiscal policy. And he provides Obama with a third strong Republican Cabinet member, joining Defense Secretary Bob Gates and Ray LaHood at Transportation.

    Gregg and North Dakota Sen. Kent Conrad, respectively, the top Republican and Democrat on the Budget Committee, have been pushing for the creation of a bipartisan commission that would tackle the looming bankruptcy of the three big entitlement programs — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Conrad told me he deeply regrets the departure of his partner and does not know where to find a substitute.

    But help may be on the way. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the No. 3 man in the Senate Republican leadership, quietly joined the Budget Committee last month. When I asked him why, he said it was to “help move the Gregg-Conrad commission proposal forward.”

    Moreover, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader of the Senate, told the National Press Club that a bipartisan deal on entitlements is something he thinks can and should happen in this Congress.

    Obama said the same thing when he visited The Washington Post just before the inauguration, and now he has in Gregg someone who can help him lobby Congress to move that project forward.

    The problem is likely to be in the House, where Speaker Nancy Pelosi remains opposed to the commission idea and where Republicans are adamant against considering tax hikes along with benefit reductions in any kind of “grand bargain.”

    It will be a heavy lift, but there are willing hands.

    from RCP

  25. marie3548

    Those people can meet at the rat infested building they put our wounded Soldier in in Washington D.C. and sleep at their own home or apartments.

    My god, what are they thinking of that in todays world of economic bail outs, they need to go to Williamburg. The soldiers were suppose to get well in that hole, so why should they not work out plans there. I don’t think that is any harder than getting well from getting hit in the head by a bomb.

  26. Get this:

    President Obama has been “AWOL” in negotiations over the economic stimulus package, Sen. Lindsey Graham said Thursday in a scathing rebuke of the new president.

    The South Carolina Republican told FOX News that Obama has not been providing leadership, and he criticized the president for giving TV interviews and writing an editorial touting the package, rather than addressing the complaints of lawmakers.

    “This process stinks,” Graham told FOX News, before repeating a lot of his criticisms on the Senate floor. “We’re making this up as we go and it is a waste of money. It is a broken process, and the president, as far as I’m concerned, has been AWOL on providing leadership on something as important as this.”

    3w dot foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/05/graham-says-obama-awol-stimulus-debate/

  27. “This process stinks,” Graham told FOX News, before repeating a lot of his criticisms on the Senate floor. “We’re making this up as we go and it is a waste of money. It is a broken process, and the president, as far as I’m concerned, has been AWOL on providing leadership on something as important as this.”

    —————-

    Amen!

  28. Breaking News

    Justice Bader Ginsburg had surgery for pancreati Cancer. I wish her well. That is a tough Cancer

  29. News Bulletin

    Justice Ruth Ginsberg is presently undergoing surgery related to a newly diagnosed pancreatic cancer. Diagnosis was early, tumor is said to be small, both good points with a disease that historically has a 5% 5 year survival rate because diagnosis is usually late.

  30. JanH

    It is not like we did not have evidence that he does not like working out deals. His law associates said he presented well, but was not negotiator. As I remember, HRC negotiated with the people who were trying to screw her husband. Oh, that is right, she had no experience and his was so important.

    Of course his bullying techniques always worked so well in the past.

  31. “HuffPost is doing an innovative project where they solicit citizen readers to analyze portions of the stim bill to see how it’s being modified. So far they have close to 400 readers on board. Some of their findings:
    Quote:
    The sifters found some noteworthy nuggets in the bill.
    —————————————————-
    Innovative my aunt fanny. A group of Pumas already been there and done it…last week,
    as reported here by me last week.
    ————————————-

    He’ll have the votes by tomorrow only if he and his Chicago thugs initiate a thorough shakedown.

  32. O is really scratching for good will. Finally got around to Kentucky: FRANKFORT, Ky. — President Barack Obama on Thursday issued a major disaster declaration for Kentucky in the wake of a deadly ice storm, ordering federal aid to supplement local recovery efforts
    3w dot foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488569,00.html

  33. Emjay

    It will be interesting to see if that happens, as those Chicago Thugs obviously had enough on the Super Delegates to make them do what they wanted, even though their consituants had voted otherwise.

  34. The vote might be today, maybe tonight.

    Meanwhile it appears that $78 billion has been wasted:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D965HBF80&show_article=1

    The chairwoman of the Congressional Oversight Panel for the bailout funds told the Senate Banking committee Thursday that Treasury in 2008 paid $254 billion and received assets worth about $176 billion.

    The figures were reached by extrapolating the results of a study of 10 government transactions.

    The Treasury by Jan. 23 had spent about $294 billion on more than 300 companies under the Troubled Asset Relief Program. In one bright spot, the inspector general in charge of reviewing the funds said the federal government has received more than $271 million in dividends from preferred shares obtained through the program.

  35. well all I can say is whoever obama’s handlers are, they are sure giving him the worst advice on how to handle this situation.

  36. holdthemaccountable

    Interesting. Did he learn nothing from Katrina? I could have even handled this crisis better, and I am just your average middle class voter.

    By the way, the Republican’s after Katrina learned to have those ready and issued them ahead of time, when they saw how bad it was going to be.

  37. More bad news:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/rel_obama_faith_based

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Thursday signed an order establishing a White House office of faith-based initiatives with a broader mission than the one overseen by his predecessor, Republican George W. Bush.

    Obama said the office would reach out to organizations that provide help “no matter their religious or political beliefs.”

    Obama is calling his program the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

    He said in this time of economic crisis, it was proper for the government to be providing help to Americans.

    But no matter how much the government does, “the change that Americans are looking for will not come from government alone.”

    The president will also appoint Joshua DuBois, a 26-year-old Pentecostal minister who headed religious outreach for Obama’s Senate office and later his campaign, to lead the partnership’s office and name 25 religious and secular leaders to a new advisory board.

    Before signing the measure, Obama told the annual National Prayer Breakfast the program would not show favoritism to any religious group, and would adhere to a strict separation of church and state.

    The office is broader than one in the Bush administration that just dealt with faith-based initiatives.

  38. And the hits just keep on coming:

    February 05, 2009
    Gregg Will Help Move Entitlement Reform
    By David Broder

    snip

    For now, recruiting Gregg for Commerce is scant consolation for the loss of Daschle. But in months to come, Gregg will be worth celebrating. He is one of the smart guys on Capitol Hill, especially when it comes to fiscal policy. And he provides Obama with a third strong Republican Cabinet member, joining Defense Secretary Bob Gates and Ray LaHood at Transportation.

    Gregg and North Dakota Sen. Kent Conrad, respectively, the top Republican and Democrat on the Budget Committee, have been pushing for the creation of a bipartisan commission that would tackle the looming bankruptcy of the three big entitlement programs — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Conrad told me he deeply regrets the departure of his partner and does not know where to find a substitute.

    But help may be on the way. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the No. 3 man in the Senate Republican leadership, quietly joined the Budget Committee last month. When I asked him why, he said it was to “help move the Gregg-Conrad commission proposal forward.”

    Moreover, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader of the Senate, told the National Press Club that a bipartisan deal on entitlements is something he thinks can and should happen in this Congress.

    Obama said the same thing when he visited The Washington Post just before the inauguration, and now he has in Gregg someone who can help him lobby Congress to move that project forward.

    The problem is likely to be in the House, where Speaker Nancy Pelosi remains opposed to the commission idea and where Republicans are adamant against considering tax hikes along with benefit reductions in any kind of “grand bargain.”

    It will be a heavy lift, but there are willing hands.

    from rcp

  39. Sad news about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg. We wish her the best. May she have a complete recovery or as strong a recovery as possible. Her many years at ACLU and advocacy for women is greatly appreciated. Bill Clinton chose well when he appointed Bader Ginsberg. Some might remember Bill Clinton got very misty eyed about her life story and then angry with Big Media at the announcement ceremony for ignoring her life story in order to ask questions about some nonsense. Best wishes Ruth.

  40. Admin: I have tried 4-5 times to post an article from RCP about Gregg and SS, but it keeps getting caught in the spam filter, even when I leave the link out. Can you help?

  41. On the Kentucky/Illinois/Inidana/Ohio Storm

    It is not like he did not know what an ice storm was like, having lived in his Rezko subsidized mansion, with his discounted load rate (I remember he got the VIP rate also, but we don’t take about that often). Hay, when you get those discounted mortgage rates, is that suppose to be disclosed on your tax form as a special consideration, like the limo?

  42. Sad news about Justice Bader Ginsberg. Hopefully, it was caught early enough, but surgery is hard on anyone, especially an older person.

  43. Miracles do happen and we are fortunate that Hillary was spared.She is so accomplished in every phase of being an outstanding leader for our country.Thank God she is out of the den of fools that we call the Senate.The BRM would be blaming all of this mess on her,one way or another.Mr know nothing doom and gloom Obama is headed for the quickest fall in presidential history and leaves behind the biggest mess ever created by a single political phoney.Wo is he?.What is he?.Where was he born?
    What is his mission?.Who bankrolled his fraudulent campaign?.
    What are his foreign connections?.Where are his papers of his education and employment and his IL political terms?.These are the many questions that would have been revealed,had he been vetted and now we are in his own words”facing a disaster”
    The big question now is how do we get rid of him and avoid the same problems with Biden and Pelosi.Hillary is the one and only
    person that can right all these wrongs and set the right course for this badly damaged country.

    By ABM90 America MAKE THINGS HAPPEN

  44. birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    More bad news:
    *********
    That fits in with the $100 million of new money for “faith based” programs and naming Frank Page to the advisory board. The Rev Page is a vicious homophobe and misogynist..he make Rick Warren look like a liberal.

  45. Dems are trying to sell need for 800 bil package. Making some progress with [Senator] Collins said she was convinced by Obama during a meeting at the White House Wednesday that her call for a $650 billion package was a little small.”The president has made a strong case for a proposal that is in the neighborhood of $800 billion,” Collins said.
    Maybe we need to remind her what CATO institute/ 200 economists thought: just let it happen. Clear out underbrush.
    Truly I do know know what is sensible, but in my own house if I cannot afford it, I do without it.

  46. SHV Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    ———————————————

    do you have a link re: Page being appointed to the advisory board?

  47. For Congressional contacts see

    h…..w
    pumaresponders.blogspot.com
    right sidebar

    Links to sites where all you need is your zip code/state and it will look up your Representative/Senators and help with the contacts.

  48. Obama holding a press conference Monday night. He’s worried. The back and forth today has not been good. Reid is saying he has the votes. Ben Nelson’s group says Reid doesn’t have the votes. Questions as to whether Pelosi or Reid or Obama is in charge.

    And now Labor Secretary to be Solis’ husband paid 16 year old tax liens yesterday.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-05-solis-husband-taxes_N.htm

    The husband of President Obama’s Labor secretary nominee paid about $6,400 Wednesday to settle tax liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years against his business, the Obama administration told USA TODAY this afternoon.

    The disclosure came shortly before a scheduled 2 p.m. meeting of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, which will vote on Rep. Hilda Solis’ nomination as labor secretary. The hearing was postponed; no reason was immediately revealed.

  49. Prayers for Justice Ginsberg. As a lawyer, I have the utmost respect for her judicial brilliance and temperament. As a fellow citizen, I have always loved and admired what a strong, intelligent and courageous woman she is. Gob bless you.

  50. Obama Fires at GOP: I Reject Their Stimulus Theories

    Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:13 AM

    Article Font Size

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama fired the sharpest warning of his young presidency at Republicans who are mustered against his$ 900-billion stimulus plan for the plunging economy.

    Obama has sought to build bipartisan support for his massive dose of tax cuts and infrastructure spending designed to waken dormant consumption and create between 3 million and 4 million jobs.

    But he showed the first sign of impatience Wednesday, bringing up twice what Democrats say are discredited economic policies of president George W. Bush, which they contend helped cause the worst economic crisis since the 1930s.

    “In the past two days, I have heard criticisms of this plan that, frankly, echo the very same failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis in the first place,” Obama said, before signing a children’s health insurance bill.

    He took aim at the “notion that tax cuts alone will solve all our problems” and warned against the idea that the economic crisis could be tackled with “half steps, and piecemeal measures and tinkering around the edges.”

    Obama also faulted unnamed opponents he said believe “that we can ignore the fundamental challenges like the high cost of healthcare and still expect our economy and country to thrive.”

    “I reject these theories, and by the way so did the American people when they went to the polls in November and voted resoundingly for change,” the president said, in his most edgy partisan language in his two weeks in office.

    Republicans, using the stimulus showdown to test the new president’s power, did not give Obama a single vote when the package passed the House last week and complain it lacks sufficient tax cuts and is too expensive.

    Obama’s defeated presidential election foe, Sen. John McCain, welcomed the president’s bipartisan attitude but complained it had not produced substantive negotiations on the makeup of the bill.

    “No bill is better than this bill, because it increases the deficit by over a trillion dollars,” Senator McCain told CBS News, a day after Democratic leaders sent signals that they did not yet have the votes to pass the measure.

    “It has so many programs in it that create no jobs whatsoever and it has no provisions to put us on the path of a balanced budget, once our economy has recovered.”

    While sending public warnings to Republicans, Obama also courted centrist senators from both parties, calling three to the White House to discuss what Nebraska Democrat Ben Nelson said were at least $50 billion in cuts.

    The president “realizes that some of the pieces of this package need to come out for a variety of reasons because it will take that sort of scrubbing to get the votes on board to pass the package,” Nelson said.

    Two Republican senators from Maine, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, also met Obama to discuss proposed changes to the bill.

    “He recognizes that some of the provisions that were added in the House and some in the Senate as well do not belong in the bill,” Collins said.

    Moderates on both sides are concerned that the bill contains spending on projects that might be worthy, but are unlikely to stimulate demand: Collins, for example, complained about $8 billion inserted in the measure to upgrage State Department technology.

    In the Senate itself, a long sheaf of amendments to the bill were set to come up for a vote, including McCain’s attempt to strike out a “Buy American” clause, which U.S. trade partners have branded as protectionist.

    “I’ve got an amendment to try to kill it,” McCain told AFP shortly after introducing the measure.

    The EU and Canada fiercely have attacked the “Buy American” clause, warning it could start a global trade war.

    The measure bars the use of any of the more than 900 billion dollars being debated in the Senate to buy steel, iron or other manufactured goods from abroad for infrastructure construction projects.

    A narrower version of the clause, popular in states suffering gravely from the economic downturn, was included in the House bill.

    Congressional sources said Wednesday it was still too early to say whether the stimulus plan would come up for a vote by the weekend.

    Democratic leaders in the House and the Senate have warned that the congressional recess due to start at the end of next week will not happen unless a joint bill is agreed and sent to Obama.

    © 2009 Agence France Presse. All rights reserved.

  51. Called both of my senators. Took all of 2 minutes. They are monitoring constituent reactions to stimulus bill. One of them was keeping track of them by zip code.

  52. Justice Ginsberg out of surgery at Sloan-Kettering, had the least dramatic of two proceedures, though the proceedure carries a higher (40%) rate of complications than the alternative. Says she will be in hospital 5-7 more days, and has plans to be back on the bench by Feb 23.

    Her clerk pointed out that she had colon cancer surgery, followed by radiation and chemo ten years ago, and never missed a day on the bench.

    Godspeed.

  53. If he doesn’t get this package passed, then what? Isn’t it political suicide if he has to go back to the drawing board after tomorrow?

    In the meantime, Rome aka the U.S.A burns!

    —-
    As far as Rep. Solis’ husband is concerned, does this cancel out her nomination?

  54. moononpluto Says:
    within a few months he’s start running for the position of God Almighty, where else there left for him to go up to, become Pope.

    =================

    Reminds me of the old fairytale about the fisherman who rescued a magic fish and got wishes, but kept increasing them. Hm, that’s what’s been happening with the bailout/stimulus bills too.

  55. As for sex education, that’s a very small part of what Planned Parenthood and such programs do (though very much needed by some ignorant teens). What’s urgent here is providing birth control pills, hormone shots, morning after, etc for the poor people who really cannot afford the DOCTOR EXAMS TO GET THE PRESCRIPTIONS.

    Calling family planning ‘pork’ is a terrible stretch of the term. ‘Pork’ means something that does nothing except give some local people jobs, like building a bridge to nowhere. Family planning is a nationwide issue that affects EVERYONE: not just the poor families for whom an unwanted pregnancy may be a tragedy, but the taxpayers and neighbors who have to deal with the birth and raising of the unwanted child.

  56. Admin,

    You have never been wrong but I’m hoping you’re wrong about this and BHO’s collapse happens even earlier!

    ‘by February 2010 at the earliest, and January 2011 at the latest, Obama will be acknowledged by all, even his Big Media masters, to be a failure.’

    BTW, anyone else read this quote today? (paraphrasing) About those opposing the stimulus BHO said, “Are those folks serious?” I don’t remember ever hearing such a disrespectful tone toward Americans, in this case, a MAJORITY of Americans, from a CIC against those who oppose his views. It is shockingly juvenile and so ‘gangsta.’

  57. basil,

    his mouth needs to be washed out with soap or something stronger. the language of his response is not befitting the office he stole.

  58. Basil9, the Obama collapse is happening already. Check out that first sentence.

    BTW, the sentence you do quote is not as clear apparently as it should be. The full sentence is Without a national economic recovery (to save Obama Dimocrats in the midterm election) by February 2010 at the earliest, and January 2011 at the latest, Obama will be acknowledged by all, even his Big Media masters, to be a failure.

    The point is that “without a national economic recovery” the Dimocrats will be hurt badly in the 2010 election and then in the 2012 elections if Obama remains the candidate. It is very doubtful that there will be a national economic recovery by either 2010 or even well ahead of the 2012 elections.

    The honeymoon is already over for Obama. If Obama does not ram through a bill close to what he wants on the “stimulus” he will be so wounded the rest of his term will be filler.

  59. Admin,

    He can’t fall far enough fast enough for me. 👿

    BTW, LUV that Ray Charles!

    BTW,2 – is this true? (from hta’s post)
    ‘Senate leaders say they have the votes to pass President Obama’s $800 billion stimulus package, after moderate senators from both parties agreed to cut the size of the package.’

  60. A couple of us were talking last night about b.o. and m.o. The consensus was that it would be wonderful to have a qualified African American or any other race become the president, just not obama.

    Someone likened them to the 21st century version of the Beverly Hillbillies.

  61. did you hear about Zinni being offered Iraq amb and then it was quietly given to Hill without Zinni being told about it? NQ has the story.

  62. Basil9, Reid is saying he has the votes. Reid is angry and says he will force things through. Some of the 17 Nelson people are saying they have not agreed to anything yet. They will pass something, but what we don’t know.

    Obama has been hurt by this and has abandoned the 80 vote victory he wanted.

  63. Lets play devils advocate here for a moment.

    Suppose he gets the bill he wants.

    Suppose it does not work.

    Suppose it adds a trillion to the deficit (interest included)

    Suppose it creates hyperinflation.

    Suppose it is seen as pork.

    In that case I still see 2010 as a disaster for him.

    I still see 2012 as a no run sceario.

    I agree he will be wounded if it does not pass. That is the optimal sceario.

    But is he really any better off if the economy is in bad shape if it does pass and two years hence the deficit hole is deeper.

  64. the very fact that voter support for the bill is way down should show the nuts that this is not the help that will work.

    IMO Barky loses either way. If it passes it’s just a long drawn out world of hurt for us peons, and his political career. I’d rather have a bill that will really help and if he gets a few bones then so be it. He’ll be doing enough other shit to ruin himself. It’s obvious he does not have a clue.

  65. wbboei Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    —————————————————

    and suppose the Republicans stand firm and don’t vote for it. Let him explode all on his own when the stimulas package fails.

    except that the people do need something to work.

  66. A couple of us were talking last night about b.o. and m.o. The consensus was that it would be wonderful to have a qualified African American or any other race become the president, just not obama.

    Someone likened them to the 21st century version of the Beverly Hillbillies.
    ——————————-
    Or maybe the movie “Shaft”.

  67. turndown
    sorry if I offend. But I do not believe anything belongs in this package which does not directly stimulate economy. Will giving more money to Planned Parenthood reduce number of teen pregnancies? I doubt it and I believe such organizations should be funded by private citizens. I worked for the New York Department of Social Services and I have seen how govt bungles spending to an absurd level. Whatever they get they gotta spend and ask for more or budgets are cut.

  68. Okay, more on Gregg:

    White House to Bypass Commerce on Census
    By Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff

    The director of the Census Bureau will report directly to the White House and not the secretary of Commerce, according to a senior White House official.

    The decision came after black and Hispanic leaders raised questions about Commerce Secretary nominee Judd Gregg ’s commitment to funding the census.

    Gregg, New Hampshire’s senior senator, voted in committee and on the floor for a 1995 Republican budget that envisioned the elimination of the Commerce Department. Of even more concern to black and Hispanic leaders, Gregg battled President Clinton over a request for “emergency” funding for the 2000 census.

    “Secretary of Commerce-designate Judd Gregg ’s record raises serious questions about his willingness to ensure that the 2010 census produces the most accurate possible count of the nation’’s population,”” the National Association of Latino Elected Officials said in a release on Tuesday, the day Gregg was named to the post. “”Policymakers and planners at all levels of government rely on these data to make important decisions about their services, such as the number of teachers that will be needed in their classrooms, the best places to build new roads, or the best way to provide job training.”

    The selection of the Republican Gregg for Commerce — a plum often given out to a big fundraiser or personal friend in the president’s own party — left many Democrats scratching their heads and others fearful that Gregg might not defend favored agencies and programs with the department.

    “Sen. Gregg’s record of previously voting to abolish the Commerce Department and his attempts to block President Bill Clinton’s efforts to secure adequate funding for the 2000 census raise troubling concerns regarding his commitment to the department’s core missions,” Congressional Black Caucus Chairwoman Barbara Lee said on Tuesday.

    It was not immediately clear whether the White House plan to circumvent Gregg on Census Bureau matters would assuage lawmakers who raised questions about his nomination.

    “We have no comment at this time,” a Lee spokesman said late Wednesday.

    Gregg is expected to sail through the confirmation process, and a spokeswoman for him said earlier this week that the senator “has a strong record of working aggressively to preserve the policies of Commerce.”

    cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003024858

    Still scratching my head on this one.

  69. Emjay Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Justice Ginsberg out of surgery at Sloan-Kettering, had the least dramatic of two proceedures, though the proceedure carries a higher (40%) rate of complications than the alternative. Says she will be in hospital 5-7 more days, and has plans to be back on the bench by Feb 23.
    **********
    Link for the procedure?

  70. Obama appeals to public for support on stimulus plan. President writes opinion piece for the Washington Post and emphasises urgency for action in speeches

    Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington

    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 February 2009

    Barack Obama began drawing down on his political capital to protect his economic rescue plan today, saying the package was a crucial part of his election promise to bring change to Washington. In a series of direct appeals to voters, Obama said the economic rescue plan, now approaching $900bn, was an essential part of the change Americans had voted for in November when they elected him president.

    Diluting the package as Republicans as well as conservative Democrats now demand would represent a return to business as usual, Obama warned.

    “In recent days, there have been misguided criticisms of this plan that echo the failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis – the notion that tax cuts alone will solve all our problems; that we can meet our enormous tests with half-steps and piecemeal measures; that we can ignore fundamental challenges such as energy independence and the high cost of healthcare and still expect our economy and our country to thrive,” Obama wrote in an opinion piece in the Washington Post.

    “I reject these theories, and so did the American people when they went to the polls in November and voted resoundingly for change.” He shored up the appeal in a speech later today, warning that each day of delayed passage was costing Americans jobs.

    “The time for talk is over,” he warned during a speech at the energy department.

    The orchestrated public appeals comes as the economic rescue plan presents Obama with his biggest test in his two weeks in the White House of his claimed ability to reach across the partisan divide and get Washington to work effectively.

    The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, said today he was confident the Democrats had the votes to pass the package.

    But Obama’s public relations drive was widely seen in Washington as a sign of a popular president having to fight to get his legislation passed.

    “In just two weeks, the elation of inauguration day has given way to a classic form of partisan hardball. Obama and his advisers have been forced to learn basic lessons on the run,” the liberal commentator, EJ Dionne wrote on the same page as Obama in the Post. “One more lesson: No occupant of the White House has ever been able to walk on water.”

    Obama warned today that new jobless figures out tomorrow will show a sharp rise in unemployment – underlining the urgency of passing the economic plan.

    But his warning comes amid resistance from Republicans as well as moderate Democrats to a spending plan which sought to spur investment on clean energy, public transport and crumbling infrastructure.

    Obama launched his public sales campaign on Tuesday with five television interviews. But the effort got lost when Tom Daschle, Obama’s choice of health secretary, was forced to withdraw because of unpaid taxes.

    By yesterday there were fears that the rescue plan might have trouble passing in the Senate – at least without significant spending cuts.

    Republican and conservative Democratic senators demanded cuts of almost $200bn, slashing away at projects for rail transport, climate change, and research on sexually transmitted disease.

    So the president decided to call in reinforcements, dispatching his wife Michelle on a tour of federal government departments. The vice-president, Joe Biden, delivered a speech from a suburban rail station in Maryland today saying investment in public transport could help create 400,000 new jobs.

    Later today, Obama is scheduled to attend a meeting of House Democrats in Williamsburg, Virginia. Behind the scenes, Obama will also conduct a dogged lobbying effort, with telephone calls to Capitol Hill and private meetings at the White House for senators who have balked at the size of the package.

    The effort will crest next Monday when Obama holds his first press conference since entering the White House. He has also told senators he is considering making an Oval Office address to try to build public support behind the economic rescue plan.

    The appeal was the first stage of a concerted effort by Obama to regain control over his economic agenda, and prevent critics from radically cutting back the rescue package.

    The White House said it hopes the Senate will pass its version of a rescue plan within days, and that a bill would be ready for Obama to sign by the end of next week.

    But Obama faced increasing challenges to his rescue plan, with Republicans as well as conservative Democrats saying the package was weighed down by wasteful and frivolous projects that would not further its stated purpose of creating jobs and spurring the economy.
    Today, the president argued that approach would represent surrender.

    “We have a choice to make. We can once again let Washington’s bad habits stand in the way of progress,” he wrote in the Post. Or, he added, “We can place good ideas ahead of old ideological battles, and a sense of purpose above the same narrow partisanship.”

    guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/05/obama-administration-stimulus-public-senate

    ———————————–

    “One more lesson: No occupant of the White House has ever been able to walk on water.”

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    You got that right!

  71. If there are votes enough to pass it there is something very wrong here [reminiscent of SD strongarming], if the sane people do not take names and kick butt something is very very wrong!!!

    TDO, was Planned Parenthood not one of the Huckster’s or Chicago Combine’s organizations for their evil designs like ACORN was and is? Names of organizations that sound as if they are for the good of the citizen, but are in fact the opposite? As far as I am concerned, there is one 100% accurate pill for birth control and that is the aspirin.

  72. So O thinks passing this bill is keeping an election promise he made. Wonder how many fools would have voted for him if they knew it would cost them 80 bil. If this is his promise, why do we have to pay for it?

  73. ShortTermer,

    NO, Planned Parenthood was NOT any sort of Obama scam. It is and has always been legitimate and much needed.

  74. Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband’s Tax Lien Revelations
    voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/05/solis_senate_session_canceled.html?hpid=topnews

    A Senate committee today abruptly canceled a session to consider President Obama’s nomination of Rep. Hilda Solis to be labor secretary in the wake of a report saying that her husband yesterday paid about $6,400 to settle tax liens against his business — liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years.

  75. JanH Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Obama appeals to public for support on stimulus plan. President writes opinion piece for the Washington Post and emphasises urgency for action in speeches.

    I don’t get why he can’t just pull a Bush stunt and say that if the stimulus plan does not pass, the terrorists will win. Just yesterday he said that it would be a “catastrophe.’ If he’s going to scare the nation, might as well do it in style with a Bin Laden here and an Al Qaida there.

  76. ‘Obama has been hurt by this and has abandoned the 80 vote victory he wanted.’

    OK. So even if he ‘wins’ he loses.

    I just wish he would both ‘lose’ and lose. Can any of the mathematically non-challenged figure out how much this nealy 2 trillion dollar (including the pre-election amount) will cost each of us 300+ million Americans? All those zeros make me dizzy.

    (

    😡

  77. Obama was one of the biggest critics during Katrina now this one is on his watch.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_re_us/salmonella_outbreak_fema

    Meals sent to Ky., Ark. had recalled peanut butter

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. – Kentucky stopped distributing FEMA emergency meal kits for victims of last week’s ice storm Thursday after authorities warned that the meals may include packets of peanut butter recalled because of possible salmonella.
    The kits were shipped to Arkansas and Kentucky to help feed some of the 1.3 million people left without power for days at the height of last week’s ice storm. No illnesses have been reported, but several people consumed the suspect plastic packets of peanut butter.
    The recalls were ordered out of “an abundance of caution,” said Jay Blanton, a spokesman for Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear.
    Even the governor had eaten some of the peanut butter while touring storm damage and said Thursday he feels “pretty good.”
    The salmonella outbreak is suspected of sickening at least 550 people across the country, eight of whom have died, and led to recalls of thousands of consumer products. A Blakely, Ga., peanut-processing plant that produces a fraction of U.S. peanut products is being investigated in the outbreak.
    According to an internal FEMA briefing document dated 8 a.m. Thursday, FEMA has delivered 959,000 meals to Kentucky in the aftermath of the ice storm, with 490,000 more on the way over the next few days.

  78. filbertsf Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    ———————————

    Or maybe he can say that he will stomp his feet, hold his breath, and have a temper tantrum (his first of many) if they don’t pass his stimulus plan.

  79. filbertsf
    when was the last time America was attacked on her own soil? Trust me you never forget the smell of several buildings with human remains burning in your backyard. I am no fan of GWB but we had a bit of percieved security causr he acted. I may disagree with his actions but he did them and we have not had an act of terrorism on our soil since 9/11? Give the man that if nothing else?

  80. Jan— as you say life has been know to imitate art. Here are the reasons why I think the movie here is Shaft–although I must confess the actor Richard Roundtree never had it so good.

    1. see the four minute opening clip from that movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyRdhSIqlo

    2. note the seedy setting—looks like New York but could be Chicago.

    3. see him jaywalking across traffic narrowly missing oncoming vehicles—noblesse oblige.

    4. watch him flip the bird to one of the taxi drivers—probably a female. (0:40)

    5. listen to the Andrew Sullivan Chris Matthews lyrics singing his praises. Listen closely to the chorus of bots (3:05)

    6. see him confer with the blind newspaper vendor who sees all—if you look closely it is David Axelrod incognito (3:42).

    Can ya dig it?

  81. Henry, I was mocking Obama’s “catastrophic” comment yesterday. Whether or not Bush kept America safe, he did use the fear factor to full effect. Obama is just borrowing a page from Mr. Bush, just with more grace and articulation.

    And I could not care less about Bush these days. He belongs in the history books now and that is where he will be judged… along with all the dead and wounded in Iraq and New Orleans.

  82. wbboei Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

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    Perfect! b.o. just needs a dozen or so heavy gold chains around his neck and rings on his fingers and he’s good to go.

  83. henry,

    ‘trust me you never forget the smell of several buildings with human remains burning in your backyard.’

    I watched from a NJ park 15 miles west of Manhattan. I visited the site 2 days later. The TV images, while graphic, didn’t capture the horror.

    I agree that GWB kept it from happening again and he should get credit for that. BHO is such a one-dimensional comic-book character living in an even more insulated comic-book world than GWB.

  84. Funny I was just looking at yahoo pictures of Pres Bush since he’s left office. He looks 10 years younger.

    I don’t agree with Iraq but I do agree with some of the things he did to keep us safe. I agree with torture in some cases and I agree that terrorists want to kill us in any way they can .. we have to keep our nation safe. Bush did that. Barks a lot, we’ll just have to wait and see.

  85. BHO has NO authentic ‘articulation’ or ‘grace’.

    He’s a cheap fraud. If you want to catch the ‘real deal’ visit any of the thousands of churches in AA neighborhoods where the pastors are sincere and can back up their rhetoric with real-life experiences.

    BHO is what’s known in many of those neighborhoods as a ‘pulpit pimp.’

  86. Aaron to celebrate 75th birthday
    Former presidents Clinton, Carter among dignitaries to honor Hall of Famer
    By Mark Bowman / MLB.com

    ATLANTA — If Hank Aaron had his way, his 75th birthday would have arrived Thursday without much fanfare. But the persistence of his beloved wife, Billye, will allow him to celebrate this milestone day in the royal fashion that he deserves.
    Former President Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary, who was recently appointed to be the U.S. Secretary of State, will join another former First Couple, Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter, to celebrate this milestone day with Aaron and many other guests at a birthday party in Atlanta on Thursday evening.

    Commissioner Bud Selig will also be in attendance to enjoy this celebration for a longtime friend who he also considers to be the greatest player in baseball history.

    “If you were to pick the prototype person to break the most famous record in professional sports, you know who it would be? Henry Aaron,” Selig once said during an interview. “Why? Because of his class and his decency and his dignity. He has represented this sport so beautifully in every way.”

    While Barry Bonds may now own “the most famous record in professional sports,” Aaron is still viewed by many to be the baseball’s home run king. Many, including Bill Clinton, view The Hammer as a tremendous individual who has blessed society with much more than his outstanding athleticism.

    In 2001, Clinton invited Aaron to the White House to receive a Presidential Citizens Medal that recognized the Hall of Famer’s countless charitable endeavors aimed toward advancing civil rights and providing for underprivileged children.

    mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090205&content_id=3800758&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

  87. ‘I agree with torture in some cases and I agree that terrorists want to kill us in any way they can .’

    Me too. I lived a mile away from the passport office where some of the hi-jackers got their docs, a couple of miles away from the motel Atta called home for a year, a couple of block away from an inner city apartment building where some of the hi-jackers lived.

    I have no problem with torturing those who would try for a repeat performance. Maybe if the 1993 masterminds had been questioned thoroughly 2001 wouldn’t have happened.

    BTW – anyone else see the story yesterday about Muslim women radicalists who orchestrate the raping of Muslim women and then use their ‘shame’ as an incentive for them to become suicide bombers?

  88. I couldn’t resist posting this.

    Wednesday, February 04, 2009
    Pelosi “Wants to Pee” On Washington Times
    Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 8:38 PM
    Washington Post reporter Mary Ann Akers wrote on her Twitter feed she overhead House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “wants to pee on the Washington Times.”

    It really isn’t clear if Pelosi said it, or if someone said it after Pelosi walked by while talking about Pelosi.

    Here is a link to Akers’s Twitter feed where she wrote this moments ago.

    Akers, who calls herself “The Slueth,” pens the Post’s “Behind the Scenes” insider blog She posted this bit of information on her Twitterfeed from the Annual Congressional Dinner hosted by the Washington Press Club Foundation.

    The Times is a DC-based newspaper with a conservative editorial bent.

  89. Someone asked about a birth control group that backed Obama. NARAL (National Abortion Rights League) is a political group and DID back Obama against Hillary. I haven’t heard of Planned Parenthood backing him, though they do some political action and mostly seem to be composed of Democrats.

    However Obama’s removal of ‘family planning’ from the Stimulus bill refers to contraceptive prescriptions and prescription items dispensed by MEDICARE, without involvement of Planned Parenthood sfaik.

  90. If Bush hadn’t cheated his way into the White House we’d have had Gore who was watching and warning about ‘smart terrorism’ attacks for years and 9/11 would have never happened.

  91. Re Planned Parenthood, here are links from their press releases going back to 2005. Ctl-F finds 3 mentions of Obama, none of them in 2008 and none of them an endorsement or a backing of his candidacy.

    h…..w
    plannedparenthood.org/newsroom/press-releases-5593.htm

  92. I don’t think Planned Parenthood endorsed Obama in the Primary; it did in the General (as expected). It was NARAL that backed BO. I remembered some of the local NARAL chapters revolted.

    Planned Parenthood has helped and educated countless women even amid ongoing threats from anti-choice zealots. When people think about PP, all they think about is the abortion service they provide, but PP is so much more. It’s about empowering women.

    I must say that it is a bit disheartening to come to Big Pink and read posts panning Planned Parenthood, justification of torture and praise of Bush.

  93. filbertsf, chill out a bit. we’re all friends here (I hope) and I’m not praising Bush’s performance as President, I’m saying he did keep the country safe after 9/11 and I actually didn’t worry too much about what his response would be to our enemies. I don’t feel that safe with barks a lot.

    And we all can’t agree about torture, as we all have different opinions on lots of stuff.

    If it keeps me from getting my head cut off by some terrorist, I will be the first to admit, I wanna live. Torture the bastard if that is what it takes.

  94. filbert,

    Thanks for good info about the Planned Parenthood organization and for good sense.

    Otherwise, I must say, considering the subject, ‘a bit disheartening’ seems quite praiseworthily cool.

  95. My sister is low-income, no insurance, and she has used Planned Parenthood for Pap tests and breast exams. They provide many needed services for low-income women. They also had a social worker available, who helped her to apply for Medi-Cal.

  96. no wonder Pelosi and so many ‘insiders’ in congress supported O – they knew they could walk all over him…as opposed to Hillary who would not have stood for the sheneghins Pelosi has pulled…

    Hillary would have been front and center with dems and repubs right there in the trenches working out a realistic stimulus plan for our economic crisis…i believe hill would have stood her ground and put off dems ‘wish list’ for down the road at a more appropriate time…not just thrown a mush together…she would have known how to secure votes from both sides…

    most critics are saying that O just left it to Pelosi and her elites to do what they wanted, in fact, Pelosi even alienated dems in congress from leaving them out…O was not hands on…MIA…so much for all his rhetoric about bipartsianship and tough, targeted and temporary finanicial stimulus…

    O was too busy having cocktail parties, superbowl parties and talking about how his daughters are even ‘cooler’ than he is…

    talk, talk, talk meets reality check…

  97. S Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
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    It’s going to be a long 4-8 years.

  98. Talk about taking the piss, outstanding taxes for 16 YEARS.

    A Senate committee today abruptly canceled a session to consider President Obama’s nomination of Rep. Hilda Solis to be labor secretary in the wake of a report saying that her husband yesterday paid about $6,400 to settle tax liens against his business — including liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years.

    The report, by USA Today, came just before the Senate’s Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee was slated to meet to consider Solis’s nomination, which had been delayed by questions over her role on the board of the pro-labor organization American Rights at Work. A source said that committee members did not learn about the tax issue until today.

    “Today’s executive session was postponed to allow members additional time to review the documentation submitted in support of Representative Solis’s nomination to serve in the important position of Labor Secretary,” read a joint statement issued by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), the panel’s chairman, and Mike Enzi (Wyoming), the committee’s ranking Republican. “There are no holds on her nomination and members on both sides of the aisle remain committed to giving her nomination the fair and thorough consideration that she deserves. We will continue to work together to move this nomination forward as soon as possible.”

    No new date has been set for the hearing.

  99. From The One’s job questionairre –

    Question 34 – Have you and your spouse filed all required federal, state, local and foreign income tax returns?

    Question 36 – Have you ever paid any tax penalties? If so, describe the circumstances and the resolution of the matter.

    Question 37 – Has a tax lien or other collection procedure ever been instituted against you or your spouse by federal, state or local authorities? If so, describe the circumstances and the resolution of the matter.

    Obozo’s applicants may not possess good reading and comprehension skills … or is it an arrogance?

    now if I lied on a job application…….

  100. no one here is ‘praising’ Bush, just pointing out the obvious that there has been no attack on the US since 911.

    henry is right – maybe those of us who lived in the eye of the storm and saw first hand the consequences of suicide bombers feel more passionate about the need to keep that from ever happening again.

    the ‘suicide bomber’ mentality is clearly resistent to physical threats – they’re willing to ‘die’ for their demented cause of wiping all ‘infidels’ off the face of the earth so you tell me how to get info that could save americans. and don’t forget what they would do to us. beheadings anyone?

  101. moononpluto Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    From The One’s job questionairre
    ——————————————————————–

    Maybe, having to answer those questions has brought the tax issues out in the open?

  102. I can;t believe it, another fucking nominee with tax problems, and outstanding ones for 16 years.

    I detect a pattern of contempt here.

  103. I’m beginning to think that all Congresmen and women need to be investigated by the IRS prior to running and then before being seated, this is just a farce and quite frankly embarrassing now.

    I mean who vetted these people, if it was that Kennedy woman then by christ NY state dodged a bullet.

  104. moonpluto,

    it really is obscene, isn’t it?

    i posted the other day that my 2003 irs audit started with a threatening letter saying if i didn’t address the matter within 1 month they’d put a lien on my house.

    and that was the first i knew i had a tax problem. 😈

  105. moononpluto Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    I can;t believe it, another fucking nominee with tax problems, and outstanding ones for 16 years.

    I detect a pattern of contempt here.

    ***************************************************

    I don’t know how O thinks anyone can take him seriously when he stands there with Geithner next to him…for heaven sakes…here we are living in the middle of all this fraud, tax dodging, financial collapse and theft and he cannot find a person to lead the Treasury dept who is clean…give me a break…

    did anyone happen to catch Madoff whisteblower yesterday, Mr. Markopolous…c-span covered the whole meeting in front of Congress…the man was amazing…and what he said was mind blowing…we have a bunch of crooks and incompetents and “insiders” that are supposed to be protecting us and instead as he clearly said, instead the are protecting the predators from the investors…and many of them have no idea what they are doing and have no clue how to ‘regulate’ a damn thing

    O should have someone leading the Treasury at this time in our history that is sqeaky clean…that alone tells me that he does not get it and definitely has different standards and rules for his ‘insiders’…more poor judgement and results in a loss of credibility and confidence that will just continue

    …it feels like a front for the banks and crumbling wall st interests

  106. basil9
    thankyou
    hey I believe planned parenthood and other groups do an incredible job. I just do not see it as my governments job to jump in and provide them with money. I think it is our job as citizens to provide these groups with funding. And I just made a donation to planned parenthood.

  107. Basil, I am totally embarrassed, not only can we not run clean elections but we are putting up lying cheating SOB’s in charge of running the country, its like the henhouse being guarded by the fox.

  108. moonpluto,

    for the irst time in my adult life i’m (almost) ashamed of being an american.

    what are they saying about bho in turkey these days?

    henry, np. btw – i used to live on the ‘loesada’ fringes, too. 😀

  109. NY TIMES LET DOWN BY OBAMA ON 2010 CENSUS

    More grousing…

    nytimes.com/2009/02/05/opinion/05thu3.html

    What About the Census?
    ———————————-

    There’s been a lot of speculation about what President Obama was thinking when he decided to nominate Senator Judd Gregg, a prominent Republican, as secretary of commerce. Is he looking for the dissenting voice that will sharpen his views? Or, as The Wall Street Journal put it, is he trying to psych out Mitch McConnell, the minority leader, by availing himself of Mr. Gregg’s advice on how to pick off Republican votes in the Senate?

    Time will tell. An easier question to answer is what Mr. Obama wasn’t thinking about when he chose Mr. Gregg. It seems safe to say that the 2010 census was not weighing on the president’s mind, though it should have been.

    The Census Bureau is a major agency within the Commerce Department, and the decennial census — the next one is in 2010 — is a mammoth undertaking. After years of mismanagement and underfinancing by the Bush administration, the bureau is so ill prepared to conduct next year’s count that Congressional investigators have warned that it is at high risk of failure unless corrective action is taken immediately.

    Mr. Gregg was never a friend of the census. As chairman of the Senate committee that oversees the Commerce Department’s budget, he frequently tried to cut the bureau’s financing. In 1999, he opposed emergency funds for the 2000 census requested by President Bill Clinton and the Republican-controlled House.

    The census is used to allocate federal aid to states and draw electoral districts. Given all that, one would think that the White House would be paying more attention. It isn’t. A director of the census, who must be confirmed by the Senate, has yet to be named.

    In his confirmation hearing, Mr. Gregg must explain what he would do to get the 2010 census back on track. Before that, Mr. Obama must choose a competent director and pledge his administration’s full support to spend whatever is necessary to salvage the count.

  110. did anyone happen to catch Madoff whisteblower yesterday, Mr. Markopolous…c-span covered the whole meeting in front of Congress…the man was amazing…and what he said was mind blowing…we have a bunch of crooks and incompetents and “insiders” that are supposed to be protecting us and instead as he clearly said, instead the are protecting the predators from the investors…and many of them have no idea what they are doing and have no clue how to ‘regulate’ a damn thing
    ***********
    When you connect those dots, they lead back to Reagan. He hated big govt, at least those parts that protected the public.

  111. SHV – what you say is true…in fairness I think they said that when Bill Clinton was in office they prosecuted something like 69 fraud cases vs when Bush Jr was in and they prosecuted something like 9 cases…

    Markopolous definitely indicated that during Clinton’s time they were much more vigilant…

    can you imagine if Hillary had tried to put a tax dodger at Treasury…it would be nonstop 24/7 criticism…

  112. holdthemaccountable Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    President Obama has been “AWOL” in negotiations over the economic stimulus package, Sen. Lindsey Graham said Thursday in a scathing rebuke of the new president. The South Carolina Republican told FOX News that Obama has not been providing leadership, and he criticized the president for giving TV interviews and writing an editorial touting the package, rather than addressing the complaints of lawmakers.

    “This process stinks,” Graham told FOX News, before repeating a lot of his criticisms on the Senate floor. “We’re making this up as we go and it is a waste of money. It is a broken process, and the president, as far as I’m concerned, has been AWOL on providing leadership on something as important as this.”
    &&&&&&&&&

    Obama, AWOL. Hmmmm, who’d a thunk it.

    lack of leadership.
    lack of experience.
    lack of effort.
    lack of decisiveness.

    another “present” vote.
    another day not on the job.

    dooosh baggg.

  113. I read the article on Markopolous. He had a team that laid out the abuses 10 years ago by Madoff, good name, MAD as in Mad Cow Disease. Incredible. We are @ the mercy of a few Markopolous’s….

  114. Solis’s tax problems stem from her husband’s business. Will she step aside for her husband’s tax issues?

  115. SHV

    Surgical procedure? Sorry, don’t remember exactly how she pronounced it – Nina Totenberg on NRR volunteered the info on NPR right after it was announced she had been moved from surgery to recovery. It started with a “W”. I feel like it sounds like “whipple.” 1 cm lesion, don’t know if it was clean or ragged edged. Sounds like it was contained entirely in the pancreas. almost in the middle. Sorry. but I was on the edge of a nap.

  116. Considering all the other money in the ‘Stimulus’ and the importance of ‘family planning’ wehterh through Medicare or ‘Planned Parenthood corp’, I think it needs to be funded by the government soonest!

    Those unwanted pregnancies will end up being a cost to the taxpayers eventually (all the way to jail and in jail) so might as well pay the much lesser cost of prevention. Preventing many tragedies along the way.

  117. filbertsf, I know. It’s amazing to me so many here ever supported Hillary. She is TO THE LEFT OF OBAMA! We have people here panning STD education, planned parenthood, foreclosure assistance, etc.. Then folks here should be pleased with obama. he’s asked those things stripped from the bill. Hillary would NEVER have. There are people here complaining about halfway houses for addicts, for crissakes! Hillary has been proposing drug courts and rehabilitation rather than prison for years! It’s absolutely unbelievable to me that anyone who supported Hillary suddenly believes the Republicans are looking out for the best interest of the little guy. It’s preposterous. And, further, Obama is knifing Pelosi in the back, making her his fall girl. Pelosi is actually the only one making a good faith effort to help people at this point. I can not believe the knee jerk response to the Democrats, and this unbelievable desire to deem Obama some kind of wild eyed lefty(when he is actually to the right of Hillary on every domestic issue!) I am seeing here.

  118. Emjay Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Surgical procedure? Sorry, don’t remember exactly how she pronounced it – Nina Totenberg on NRR volunteered the info on NPR right after it was announced she had been moved from surgery to recovery. It started with a “W”. I feel like it sounds like “whipple.” 1 cm lesion, don’t know if it was clean or ragged edged. Sounds like it was contained entirely in the pancreas. almost in the middle. Sorry. but I was on the edge of a nap
    **********
    Whipple is the most likely procedure…a very extensive operation.

  119. ‘Pelosi is actually the only one making a good faith effort to help people at this point.’

    Surely you can’t be serious about Nancy-500 million-Americans-are-losing-their-jobs-every-month Pooplosi?

  120. # birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Solis’s tax problems stem from her husband’s business. Will she step aside for her husband’s tax issues?
    ——————————————-
    Deja vu all overagain…Gerry Ferraro’s husband’s tax problems……

  121. Emjay Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
    # birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Solis’s tax problems stem from her husband’s business. Will she step aside for her husband’s tax issues?
    ——————————————-
    Deja vu all overagain…Gerry Ferraro’s husband’s tax problems……
    ——————————————————————————————

    Have there ever been so many instances of tax issues?

  122. marie3548 Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
    Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband’s Tax Lien Revelations
    &&&&&&&&&&

    To all those who say, “Obama has done a lousy job vetting potential nominees, especially for tax problems”…

    Maybe they are selected BECAUSE they had tax problems. I don’t know how Hillary made it through this vetting process, with her **sqeaky clean** record and tax records… Unless they were secretly awed with Bill’s questionable donors.

  123. I feel many things in the “stimulus” bill are heartfellt. They just are not needed in the “stimulus” bill. It’s like the dems are trying to ram everything they failed to get in the last 8 years into one bill. It won’t fly because these programs are not “stimulus”, they are “Spending” and there will be a better time to fund these things. Right now people want help with housing, mortgage, interest rates, jobs, etc and these spending programs are not going to stimulate the economy.

    There is a time and place for such. I’m not against them, but this bill is not the place

  124. mj Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    —————————————————————————————

    I hope there is enough foreclosure relief in the bill. Easing the housing crisis will help the economy quite a bit. With people losing their jobs and houses, it has a negative ripple effect throughout the entire economy. Maybe, it will help to stem the tide of stores and other businesses closing.

  125. # basil9 Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    ‘Pelosi is actually the only one making a good faith effort to help people at this point.’

    Surely you can’t be serious about Nancy-500 million-Americans-are-losing-their-jobs-every-month Pooplosi?

    Yes, I’m totally serious. I really could care a less about her saying 500 when she meant 5. What I care about is policy. And, Obama wanted a bill with a bunch of ineffective tax cuts for business. Literally, they have no stimulative result. I don’t care about how much Nancy kissed BO’s ass in the primary. I care about not paying my tax dollars for a bunch of rich people to get more effing tax cuts . Everything in this bill(which is not too big, just simply not enough) is actually stuff that has already been approved and was awaiting appropriation. This is mostly emergency funds for the states. Now, I don’t think it’s enough at all. And, I do think there should have been some big transformative projects in there. But Pelosi is the one standing against Obama and the Repubs and their gimmicky tax cuts. And, she did the best she could with what Obama gave her. But anyone who can not see that Rham Emanuel and Obama are using Pelosi as the fall girl for any disappointment with this bill are not seeing clearly.

  126. birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    mj Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    —————————————————————————————

    I hope there is enough foreclosure relief in the bill.

    So far there’s no foreclosure relief. No HOLC. No cramdowns(which Pelosi wanted in there but Obama compalined about and had taken out. Nothing. Meanwhile thousands of americans lose their homes everyday.

  127. I’m really irritated with the increased federal spending for faith-based activities and programs. It has no business being in the stimulus package, nor does it belong in government. Even if Hillary was doing this, I would be against it. The program is expanding from one office to 12 offices. Every department will have representative from the faith-based programs present. I hate this.

  128. birdgal Says: (waving to birdgal)

    February 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    More bad news:news.

    yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/rel_obama_faith_based

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Thursday signed an order establishing a White House office of faith-based initiatives with a broader mission than the one overseen by his predecessor, Republican George W. Bush.

    Obama said the office would reach out to organizations that provide help “no matter their religious or political beliefs.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ALERT: This signing is called a funnel… aka FREE MONEY to anything that resembles a Faith Based Group. This mo is a conduit for funneling free $$$ money to non-taxable-non-profits. (back door kickbacks)

    I’m the Holy Mrs. Smith of the Pink Button Church. Where can I get an application for me and the Holy Order of Pink Buttons? I attend the Pink Church daily on the Internets. We are many. You will know us by our Buttons of Pink.

  129. mj Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
    birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    mj Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    —————————————————————————————

    I hope there is enough foreclosure relief in the bill.

    So far there’s no foreclosure relief. No HOLC. No cramdowns(which Pelosi wanted in there but Obama compalined about and had taken out. Nothing. Meanwhile thousands of americans lose their homes everyday.

    ——————————————————————————-

    That is why the bill sucks, sucks, and sucks. It is going to wreck our economy, if something is not done about the housing situation. 100 million for faith-based programs, but nothing for housing? What is wrong with these people???

  130. Mrs. Smith Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    ———————————————————————————

    I think I posted an article about this earlier today. It absolutely fries me.

  131. Dot, spending is stimulus. It goes right back into the economy. That’s stimulus. I frankly have no problem with the christmas tree approach. That’s what the Republicans have done every time they have had the chance. My only problem with this bill is there is not enough. Not big high-speed rail project to transform the economy for the long run. No Medicare expansion, which could save us millions of dollars and put people to work. No national grid which would permanently alter our economy. But the spending stuff, read your Keyens, it’s stimulative, it goes right back into the economy.

  132. That is why the bill sucks, sucks, and sucks. It is going to wreck our economy, if something is not done about the housing situation. 100 million for faith-based programs, but nothing for housing? What is wrong with these people???

    Our economy is wrecked. I agree with you though this is not enough. FB initiatives are a boondoggle.

  133. So the big jerk signs an EO for faith-based activities, but has done nothing for stem-cell research. He is leaving that one for the congress. Just when I think I could not dislike someone any more, another piece of doo doo is dropped. Grrr……

  134. SHV

    I loved it when he was shouting, and one of the things he said was that the SEC was “over-lawyered’ and the SEC remarkably short of anyone who knew what the hell was going on. And this was on Nightly Business Report.

    Bush’s dirty laundry is really smelly and ugly.

  135. We shouldn’t connect two events unless there is some evidence. Thus

    We haven’t suffered a terrorist attack
    and
    Bush was president

    doesn’t prove that B produced A.

    If it did, then we must also blame Bush for the first attack.

    As for torture, there is no evidence anywhere that torture prevents anything, only that it corrodes the soul of the torturers.

  136. # gonzotx Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    MJ
    Pelosi, you have got to be kidding…

    Uh, no. Who the hell do you think got rid of those ridiculous business tax cuts?

  137. There was some connection with Planned Parenthood and Obama iirc; my time is short so I did a quick search. Planned Parenthood is/has a PAC and gave money to Obama and endorsed him; they have their hands in my pockets and there are other programs that are more needed. And now, they expect payback from Obama – not a good thing.

    lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08110606.html

    Payback Time: What Planned Parenthood Expects form Obama.

    Nancy Poooopsei, as the Huckster says, Give Me a Break!!

  138. MJ, I have two BIG problems with any Christmas Tree package – my two little great-grandchildren!!!!
    Who do you think is going to have to pay for all of this and all to come??????

  139. Jesus, this is exactly what I mean. Shortermer, first that’s a rightwing propaganda site. Second, you could not possibly have supported Hillary if you are upset by the Prevention First Act. She was one of it’s leading sponsors.

  140. # ShortTermer Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    MJ, I have two BIG problems with any Christmas Tree package – my two little great-grandchildren!!!!
    Who do you think is going to have to pay for all of this and all to come??????

    What on earth to you think is going to come from a deflation trap? A depression? I think the states will skid by until some more structural changes are made, if those structural changes are not made we’ll be in a bigger hole w/out the tree than with it, but we’ll be in a hole nonetheless.

  141. # Emjay Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    I loved it when he was shouting, and one of the things he said was that the SEC was “over-lawyered’ and the SEC remarkably short of anyone who knew what the hell was going on. And this was on Nightly Business Report.

    Bush’s dirty laundry is really smelly and ugly.
    ************
    Just like they gutted food safety…~10 years ago there were 55,000 inspections last year about 5,000. Meat inspectors have to ask the processors for permission to check for bacteria. Industry records can’t be accessed because it is “proprietary”…even one of Bush’s appointees quit after he was block from issuing a rule to prevent the sale of contaminated meat…..on..and..on

  142. Emjay Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
    birdgal

    I thought the 2nd or 3rd order he signed lifted the Bush ban on stem cell research.

    ————————————————————————————

    If that happened, I must of missed it. If he did lift the ban, then I’m happy about that.

  143. mj Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    One fair move does nothing to correct her whole back stabbing package…please

  144. I guess everyone missed the funnel connection. Yes?

    Heres a good one:

    (h/t Hillbuzz)

    Daley refuses to release stimulus project list

    Posted by Dan Mihalopoulos at 6:40 p.m.

    Mayor Richard Daley said today Chicago has compiled a wish list of “shovel-ready projects” to spend federal economic stimulus funds on should Congress approve a plan.

    Unlike hundreds of other cities, however, Daley said Chicago won’t make its list public.

    “Yes, we do, we have our list, we’ve been talking to people. We did not put that out publicly because once you start putting it out publicly, you know, the newspapers, the media is going to be ripping it apart,” Daley said.

    “It’s very controversial. Yes, we have ready projects from the Board of Education to the City Colleges to the Park District to the CTA and the city of Chicago. Oh yes. Us and New York decided not to do that. We thought we could go directly into the federal bureaucracies and the different departments,” the mayor added.

    Later, Daley was asked why he wasn’t being more transparent.

    “Read some of your newspapers. Heh heh,” he replied.

  145. CIA nominee Panetta’s hearing resumes Friday:

    By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON — The Senate Intelligence Committee will resume its questioning of Leon Panetta, President Obama’s nominee for CIA director, on Friday. Panetta’s appearance before the committee began Thursday afternoon.

    In opening remarks, committee head Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., spoke to Panetta’s lack of direct intelligence experience: “I am convinced that Mr. Panetta will surround himself with career professionals,” she said, adding that she was “encouraged” by the vision he shared in meetings with committee members and written responses to pre-hearing questions from the panel.

    Feinstein also said she expects Panetta to review all CIA practices and address concerns about rendition and detention policies, harsh interrogation practices, and the use of contractors to conduct agency operations.

    Panetta’s nomination “was intended as a clean break from the past, Feinstein said. And the committee’s goal, she added, is “to make sure that Leon Panetta will be a director that makes the CIA not only effective in what it does, but also make sure that it operates in a professional manner that reflects the true values of this country.”

    In response to a question from Feinstein asking if he will “continue the practice of extraordinary rendition,” he responded “No, I will not.” Panetta noted that the practice is barred under an executive order issued by President Obama. However, under sharp questioning from committee vice chairman Christopher “Kit” Bond, R-Mo., Panetta acknowledged that there are legitimate uses of rendition, and the administration will, when appropriate, continue to capture and temporarily hold high-value terror suspects at secret sites in foreign countries.

    “If we capture a high-value prisoner, I believe we have the right to hold that individual temporarily, to debrief that individual, and to make sure that individual is properly incarcerated,” Panetta said. “And frankly, I think that is provided for under the executive order.”

    However, Panetta sought to make a distinction between the way those renditions would be carried out under the Obama administration and the way they were conducted during the Bush administration. He noted that prisoners would have access to the Red Cross, that the prisoners would be held only temporarily, and that interrogations would be conducted under the guidelines laid out in the Army Field Manual.

    He also promised that prisoners would not be held or interrogated by countries or individuals that don’t “meet our test for human values.”

    Bond also pressed Panetta on what sort of arrangement the new administraiton would use to hold hard-core terrorists now that Obama has promised to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Panetta suggested that military prisons would be one option, but he declined to offer any specifics, saying that it was a policy matter that still needs to be resolved.

    As questioning continued, Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., raised concern that the CIA, in its scramble to address imminent threats posed by North Korea, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan, has not put enough emphasis on addressing emerging threats in other parts of the world, particularly in Africa.

    Panetta said he wants to bolster CIA operations in that region and other parts of the world where tomorrow’s threats already may be starting to develop. “If we are going to come into the 21st Century, we have got to set a list of priorities that not only look at current crises … but we also have to clearly look at Russia, at China, we’ve got to look at Africa, we’ve got to look at Latin America,” Panetta said. “Weve got to look at where those potential crises could develop in the future.”

    Panetta said he does not favor prosecution of CIA interrogators who used waterboarding and other harsh questioning techniques to elicit information from terror suspects if they were operating under the authority of the Bush administration. He noted that policies allowing such interrogation techniques were approved by both the attorney general and the White House.

    But Panetta also said that any CIA personnel who went beyond the authority they were given, who used unapproved interrogation techniques that amounted to torture, should be held accountable. “If we find that there were those who deliberately violated the law and deliberately took actions which were above and beyond the standards that were presented to them, then obviously in those limited cases there should be a prosecution,” Panetta said.

    Going into Thursday’s public hearing, the former Democratic congressman from California knows he will have to give up lucrative seats on boards of directors, end his consulting work and do without well-paid speeches while running the spy agency. Panetta earned more than $800,000 in director’s and consultant’s fees, including a $50,000 salary as a professor at Santa Clara University in California. He also netted an additional $250,000 for 12 speeches last year, several of which earned him $28,000 apiece.

    Among those hiring Panetta through a Washington-based speaker’s bureau were two troubled financial companies, Merrill Lynch and Wachovia, that took federal aid during the upheavals on Wall Street. Both were bought out by other banks. Panetta also spoke to the Carlyle Group, an investment firm with interests in defense, financial services, energy and infrastructure companies.

    In choosing Panetta, Obama passed over current and former CIA officials with impressive credentials. The other candidates had either worked in intelligence during the Bush administration’s development of policies on interrogation and torture or earlier, during the months leading up to Sept. 11, 2001.

    Panetta was not expected to face major opposition. Obama failed to consult with the committee’s new head, Feinstein, before going public with the selection. But a hastily arranged phone talk involving Obama, Panetta and Vice President Biden smoothed the ruffled feathers.

    If recommended by the committee and confirmed by the full Senate, Panetta would assume control of the CIA just weeks after Obama made dramatic changes in the agency’s interrogation and detention program, directing that secret prisons be closed and interrogations held to methods approved by the military. Panetta is a strong supporter of Obama’s rules. “Those who support torture may believe that we can abuse captives in certain select circumstances and still be true to our values. But that is a false compromise. We either believe in the dignity of the individual, the rule of law, and the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, or we don’t. There is no middle ground,” he wrote in the Washington Monthly last year.

    Panetta comes with strong management skills, an insider’s grasp of government, and the trust and confidence of the new president. But he has no professional intelligence gathering or analytical experience. The CIA’s current deputy director, Steven Kappes, is expected to remain in that job.

    usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-05-panetta-cia-hearing_N.htm

  146. # birdgal Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:21
    I thought the 2nd or 3rd order he signed lifted the Bush ban on stem cell research.
    ————————————————————————————
    If that happened, I must of missed it. If he did lift the ban, then I’m happy about that.
    ***********
    It’s too controversial, he wants Congress to do it…He doesn’t want to offend his BFF Rick Warren..from a CNN interview:

    KING: You will have the power at the end of that parade to, at the stroke of a pen, lift the federal ban on embryonic stem cell research. There may be the votes to do it in Congress now, but you don’t have to wait, you could do it in your first few minutes in office, will you?
    OBAMA: Well, if we can do something legislative then I usually prefer a legislative process because those are the people’s representatives. And I think that on embryonic stem cell research, the fact that you have a bipartisan support around that issue, the fact that you have Republicans like Orrin Hatch who are fierce opponents of abortion and yet recognize that there is a moral and ethical mechanism to ensure that people with Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s can actually find potentially some hope out there, you know, I think that sends a powerful message.

  147. Let’s have construction jobs by the ton to build and to repair our crumbling infrastructure. Let’s have every computer-savvy worker design and then link up the healthcare system and the govt. depts.

    It takes 2 years for Immigration to replace your lost citizenship card. They have 2 computer lists that are unconnected. (After a year and a half, you get a notice that says please send in the original!?!?)

    The IRS takes 6 months to send you a copy of their work.

    The FDA cannot keep track of salmonella outbreaks.

    I could design a stimulus package that would have as good a shot as these geniuses. So let’s hope they listen to some bright people with sensible suggestions, drop the junk, and get on with it.

  148. Pooplosi is a joke.

    As far as her (and BHO’s) policies, they’re the mirror-image of what Bush and the repubs did. They catered to the wealthy, BHO and Poopsi want to cater to the ‘poor’, and as usual those of us in the middle, the ones who pay all the friggin’ taxes are getting squeezed.

    “We haven’t suffered a terrorist attack
    and
    Bush was president

    doesn’t prove that B produced A.”

    Yes, that’s an excellent point, but I still haveta say i trust GWB’s approach to Al Qaeda and the iranians far more than hopey-changey’s Al-Aribiya Can’t-we-all-just-get-along tear-jerker last week, his first formal prez tv appearance given to non-Americans.

  149. SHV: That is what I thought happened. He is going to let Congress duke it out. He runs away from controversy. Like voting “present.”

  150. basil9 Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    I couldn’t resist posting this.
    ——————————–
    Re the Washington Times

    It is the paper started and still fully funded by the Reverend Sun Yung Moon, the man who marries hundreds of couples at mass weddings both in the US, the Phillipines and S Korea. He is one of the several “Messiahs

  151. It is also the Washinton paper where “journalists” go, when they have been fired, or can’t get, a job at another paper.

  152. newsmax.com/headlines/cheney_obama_policies/2009/02/04/178350.html?s=sp&promo_code=797E-1

    Add ht etc and ws.

    It appears that Chaney is setting up the country, so that if there is an attack it can not be blamed back on the Bush administration, which of course the did with 9/11 back to Clinton.

    These guys really know how to work it.

  153. Admin nails it again and again. One added tidbit – Even though Dimocratic voters “went through the motion” of “oting for Obama, BamBam – like Ford – was actually APPOINTED. “Chosen” by the corrupt DNC and the Soros/Chicago Combine – the FIX WAS IN, dating back for yearsssss…..

    The Ford funeral at the National Cathedral recalled what a decent and humble man the VP was and how his pardon healed our country during the political crisis. BamBam on the other hand, is patently the most indecent and arrogant appointee to EVER serve (now and for eternity) and incites chaos with his daily “catastrophic” propoganda and dogmatic fear during this economic crisis.

    Case in point – preempting to make political speech to hypnotize the flagging support for the Dimocratic boondoggle. He is starting with his canned humor – like we can’t decipher when we’re being bamboozled and hoodwinked. Pelosi is a ROCK allright. Stone cold bitch. Humoring her more than us, perhaps? Barf bag?

  154. What will BamBam do when his canoodling no longer works and his manipulation no longer yields the desired effect? Go back to 2-3 packs a day? Or maybe give Phelps a run for his money, er medals? Drug test the SOB. Grab some DNA from a dixie cup, hair from a chaise lounge he no doubt frequents as a Cheshire cat blowing smoke rings as he gazes at himself in a mirror…c’mon interns….you’ve got a job to do, remember?

  155. NY TIMES BEGRUDGINGLY ADMITS CLINTON KNOWS HOW TO COMMUNICATE, BUT TAKES LITTLE DIGS AT HER ANYWAY

    My comments preceded with $$$

    nytimes.com/2009/02/05/washington/05diplo.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

    Clinton Tries to Reassure a State Dept. in Transition
    ———————————————————————-

    By MARK LANDLER
    Published: February 4, 2009

    WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton sought Wednesday to assuage concern within the State Department that the appointment of two high-profile special emissaries would elbow aside the department’s professional diplomats.

    Mrs. Clinton said the envoys would consult with senior officials in Washington and ambassadors overseas. Acknowledging that these appointments have caused angst within the Foreign Service, she told employees at a public meeting, “I invite people to let us know what we can do to make this work better.”

    Mrs. Clinton addressed two other issues that had roiled the State Department, saying that she would seek financing for more people to fill hazardous posts like Baghdad and that she would try to reduce the department’s reliance on private security firms like Blackwater Worldwide, which was denied a license by Iraq after its guards were involved in deadly shootings of civilians.

    But in neither case was she able to offer more than a modicum of comfort. Mrs. Clinton said that budget constraints and the continuing demand for a large staff in Iraq made it hard to predict how much the pressure to serve there and in other hardship posts would diminish. She also said that it was difficult to imagine that the State Department could do without any outside contractors to supply security.

    $$$ They attempt to undermine her…”neither case was she able to offer more than a modicum of comfort”.

    The town hall format in which Mrs. Clinton appeared clearly played to her political strengths. There were moments when the gathering felt like a more decorous version of the town hall meetings that she attended as a presidential candidate.

    $$$ Yah baby. Give her her due.

    Mrs. Clinton said the emissaries — George J. Mitchell, the former senator who is the envoy to the Middle East, and Richard C. Holbrooke, the special representative to Pakistan and Afghanistan — were already busy. Mr. Mitchell, who just returned from a trip to Egypt, Israel, Jordan and other countries, met Wednesday with President Obama and Mrs. Clinton, and State Department officials said he was eager to set up an office in the region.

    Mr. Holbrooke leaves Wednesday for Europe, and then will go to Pakistan, Afghanistan and India on what the State Department called an orientation trip.

    “The advantage of special envoys is you get off to a fast start,” Mrs. Clinton said, noting that they do not require Senate confirmation. “Contrast that, to be very clear about this, with all the people still waiting to be confirmed.”

    Answering one of the few blunt questions she received from a friendly audience of State Department employees, Mrs. Clinton said the department was likely to continue using contractors to provide security to diplomats in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the outcry over Blackwater.

    “I certainly am of the mind that we should, insofar as possible, reduce our dependence on private security contractors,” she said. “Whether we can go all the way to banning, under current circumstances, seems unlikely.”

    Mrs. Clinton said the size of the American diplomatic presence in Iraq would depend largely on the demands of the Iraqis. She said that while the State Department was eager to take back some of the functions that had migrated to the Pentagon — as the defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, has advocated — money would be a limiting factor.

    Condoleezza Rice provoked a furor in the department as secretary of state in late 2007 when she threatened to make Iraq tours compulsory to fill vacancies. In the end, the department found enough volunteers, but the issue continues to touch a raw nerve among diplomats, who are paid extra for going but cannot take their families.

    Still enjoying a honeymoon with employees, Mrs. Clinton seemed at ease in her new job, though she complained about having to make the same sacrifice as her boss, Mr. Obama: restricting use of her BlackBerry. “At least during the day,” she added, without elaboration.

  156. Bitter, false and pathological to the end, the New York Times.

    Note their gratuitious reference to “her boss”.

    We know the secretary of state reports to the president. There is no legitimate reason for them to belabor the point.

    If their publisher was not engaged in an adulterous affair with the unsuccessful suitor to Hillarys senate seat then perhaps their world view would not be so skewed.

    That is of course speculation.

  157. LOL, no agreement, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES – SUCKERS

    “The last thing Obama wants is for this to go into the weekend and have these legislators be able to go back home and hear from their constituents.” —Chris Mathews-MSNBC

    haha tinglejockey must be getting worried.

    “After fitful, secretive talks lasting well into the evening, the would-be compromisers remained shy of agreement, and Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., announced they could have another day to work at it”.

  158. Birdgal: you are right. When it comes down to a question of fight or flight Bambis inclination will always be flight. A big speech, a hollow threat and time for another well deserved vacation.

  159. basil9 Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    . Can any of the mathematically non-challenged figure out how much this nearly 2 trillion dollar (including the pre-election amount) will cost each of us 300+ million Americans? All those zeros make me dizzy.
    —————————————————-
    This is what in our house my kids used to call Mom’s math:

    If the original Wall St bailout cost every man, woman and child $1100, then Palson’s little
    give-away is $2200 total…no interest. The stimulus right now is 1.45 that amount ($1T, no interest.) That is a grand total. . . so far, of $3795 for every man, woman and child not counting the interest.

  160. Daley refuses to release stimulus project list
    ——————————-
    Thank you Mrs. Smith. Mayor Daley is the slime ball to watch. He wants taxpayers to shut their eyes and ask not questions while he pinches their wallets. Paris gypsies who pick the pockets of tourists could learn new tricks from this crook.

  161. tinglejockey ???
    —————–
    Very good moon. You have done some stellar work these last two days.

    However I still believe hemlock is the best cure for a bot. After all it was good enough for Socrates.

  162. wbboei Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    Bitter, false and pathological to the end, the New York Times.

    Note their gratuitious reference to “her boss”.
    &&&&&

    Nicely noted, wbb. Yes, keep reminding everyone that Obama is “in charge”.

    The only reason these bastids still get my money is because of the crossword puzzle. But I have continued my boycott, since the election, of their big money maker, the Sunday Times. I had so much to recycle, plus, on those days, the editorials are from Frank Rich and Modo.

  163. Paulson belongs in jail. To reach that deep into the pockets of the next three generations of Americans under the guise of fearmongering so he could let the banking industry he is a part of spend that money on lavish and wasteful projects which have nothing to do with its intended purpose with no provision to take that money back is criminal in the most accurate sense of the word/

  164. Just watching a little news tonight. Lindsay Graham was on Greta, and said that there is very little money allotted for bank reform and the housing crisis. Most of it is spending, and we are burdening our grandchildren with this bill. He said the process is very flawed, and people are not working together. In addition, TARP funds that were allotted last year, have a 78 billion dollar shortfall. The money is gone. Poof, gone! No oversight or accounting was done at the time, the funds were dispersed. They are just catching up now, trying to figure out where the money went. Spending to make up for the past 8 years does not belong in this bill.

    The process is very flawed. Many of proposals are not even going to take place, until year 4. We need relief now. We need strong banking and housing reforms. I think, this is one of the main areas to focus on. Infrastructure is another. Those areas are not funded very strongly in the present bill. Where is the relief for the middle class?

    This bill is growing government, not decreasing it. Creating new agencies? 12 new offices for faith-based needs is a prime example of an agency that does not belong in the present bill.

  165. Now, they are calling it a spending bill, not a stimulus bill. BO said it, himself, “It is a spending bill. That is the point.” So now, people will be calling it a spending bill.

  166. “The town hall format in which Mrs. Clinton appeared clearly played to her political strengths.”

    ——————-

    Damn straight! And every other format you can think of too! Hillary rocks without crib notes, without a teleprompter, and without the politics of fear.

    And doesn’t it just make the NYT want to scream in agony that their messiah can’t sling two words together that haven’t been written or thought up by someone else.

  167. Clinton seeks to consult Russia more on Iran:

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton indicated Thursday she would consult more with Russia about efforts to curb Iran’s sensitive nuclear work after talks with her French counterpart Bernard Kouchner.

    “On behalf of our mutual concerns regarding Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons, we are going to use smart diplomacy together to engage the international community,” Clinton told a press conference.

    “We will do so including Russia as a cooperative partner because we intend to forge a more constructive relationship,” said Clinton, standing next to Kouchner during his visit to Washington.

    US ties with Russia, a key player in the drive to stop Iran’s sensitive nuclear work, hit a low in the last year as president George W. Bush pressed plans to expand NATO and set up an anti-missile shield in eastern Europe.

    Russia and the four other permanent members of the UN Security Council — the United States, France, Britain, and China — as well as Germany have pursued a carrot-and-stick approach to make Iran halt uranium enrichment.

    But with Moscow and Beijing reticent about imposing further UN sanctions on Iran, Bush’s secretary of state Condoleezza Rice organized meetings with the Europeans — without inviting Russia and China.

    Kouchner, speaking to journalists after his meeting, hailed Clinton’s remarks.

    “If we want to talk about a certain number of issues, we must speak with the Iranians. I believe there should really be a dialogue. Now in what conditions, Madame Clinton did not specify,” Kouchner said.

    “And I insisted, and she agreed, she said it officially, that the dialogue includes, on Iran especially, the Russians.”

    He was backing President Barack Obama’s plan to engage diplomatically with Iran after the Bush administration refused to enter any dialogue with Tehran before it stopped enriching uranium.

    However, the Obama administration is conducting a review of its Iran policy, and has still to outline the circumstances of any dialogue.

    Iran has been at odds with the West over its nuclear program which Washington and its allies suspect is cover for a weapons drive, something Tehran strongly denies.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gbjWSSAwDb6eOyEK4WMmDn4Z9aKA

  168. Birdgal: great post. Lindsay Graham is showing some leadership. He does not need to tell it to the Marines however. He needs to tell it to Collins, Snowe and the four other Republicans who are waivering in the face of Mr Obamas bamboozling. This is no time for pork. It is no time to finance the ambitons of Chicago crime lords. It is no time for fear mongering. It is a time for solutions of the kind he recommends. We have one good shot at the apple here. Lets make sure it counts. I sure wish we could throw Paulson in jail.

  169. Stimulus bill shows Obama just another big spender

    By JONAH GOLDBERG

    Feb. 5, 2009

    The stimulus bill has failed. Barack Obama has failed. The Trojan Horse of Hope and Change crashed into the guardrail of reality, revealing an army of ideologues and activists inside.

    Now, before I continue, let me say that Barack Obama will still be popular, he will still get things done, and he will declare victory after signing a stimulus bill.

    But Obama’s moment is gone, and politics is about nothing if not moments.

    The stimulus bill was a bridge too far, an overplayed hand, 10 pounds of manure in a 5-pound bag. The legislation’s primary duty was never to stimulate the economy, but to stimulate the growth of government, the scope of the state.

    By spending hundreds of billions on things that have absolutely nothing to do with providing an immediate stimulus for the economy, Democrats hoped to make a down payment on their dream government. The billions for student aid, expanded welfare and health-care benefits, and bailouts for profligate state governments; the hundreds of millions for better museums and prettier government buildings; and the millions for smoking-cessation programs and bee insurance aren’t just items on crapulent Democrats’ wish list. The budget bloating was deliberate.

    Remember what passes for a “cut” in Washington. Any decrease in the rate of increase counts as reduced spending. If you spend 20 percent more this year than you did last year, that’s a spending increase. But next year, that additional 20 percent is part of the baseline. And if your budget grows by “only” an additional 10 percent, you’ve just “cut” spending by 50 percent!

    The stimulus bill was designed to give Democrats maximum maneuvering room. It would increase non-defense discretionary spending by more than 80 percent in a single year, in a single bill! Moving forward, they could grow government by smaller percentages while seeming to be responsible budget balancers. By putting chips on every square of social spending, they could let it ride for years to come.

    Of course, this was more than a budgetary ploy. Democrats had good reason to believe that this was their moment. For the first time in a generation, they truly own the political commanding heights. They’ve won a string of elections, including the momentous presidential contest in which their candidate never really ran to the center the way Democrats normally do. He stayed on the liberal left all the way through Election Day, so liberals figured voters knew what they were getting with Obama.

    Indeed, that’s why the president keeps saying “I won,” as if that settles the issue. Funny how that argument didn’t work for the last president when he tried to reform Social Security.

    The economic crisis was almost too good to be true. Like FDR and Lyndon Johnson, Obama was poised to act on Rahm’s Rule of Crisis Exploitation in a way that would not only guarantee a newer New Deal and an even greater Great Society, but would also receive bipartisan approval. That’s why Obama wanted so much GOP support — so as to ratify the left turn to European-style social democracy, particularly when voters cottoned on to the con.

    But that didn’t happen. Obama and his party were undone by their hubris. There was just too much muchness in the bill. The once impressive support from conservative economists evaporated. Right-wing radio has been having one long tailgate party celebrating Obama’s overreach. According to the polls, voters are souring on the whole thing. Republicans finally discovered testicular fortitude — and they seem to like it.

    There is still probably bipartisan support for a stimulus bill, but only for a measure intended to stimulate our market-based economy rather than one that hastens its Swedenization.

    Again, Obama’s presidency has many victories ahead of it, and Democrats still run the show. But the perfect storm of liberalism has dissipated to mere scattered showers.

    chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/6249157.html

  170. wbboei Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
    Birdgal: great post. Lindsay Graham is showing some leadership.

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    Ditto!

  171. Kouchner, speaking to journalists after his meeting, hailed Clinton’s remarks.
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    Cole Porter said it best: Fifty Million Frenchmen Can’t Be Wrong. Kouchner is clearly one of them.

  172. A gentleman on Rachel Maddow show pointed out in his new book about Reagan myth how Bill really reduced size of government and in response panicked conservatives created the myth that Reagan did….it was nice to hear such complimentary and honest views on how great President Clinton was /is. Hillary would have done the same if not railroaded by BO and his clueless followers.

  173. Paula Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

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    yeah! But he’s an equal opportunity hater and I felt his comments about obama and the stimulas plan were interesting.

  174. But Obama’s moment is gone, and politics is about nothing if not moments
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    How true. The father of General Douglas Mac Arthur was a Civil War hero. At the Battle of Missionary Ridge, as the Union troops fled down the hill under the withering fire of Confederate forces who held the high ground he picked up the gidon and led a counter attack up the hill against all the wisdom of Claustswitz and overran the Confederate position and secured a victory for which he won the Congressional Medal of Honor.

    Looking back on it years later he remarked how the future course of his life and all its success depended on what he did and the courage he showed in 16 short minutes.

    (Source: American Caesar, by William Manchester)

  175. As for Obama not vetting his appointees, he wasn’t vetted so he probably figured they’d be treated with kid gloves, too.

  176. I have been told that the comedian Dennis Miller was on the Bill O’Reilly show last night–I did not see it myself.

    But I understand that O”Reilley started taking cheap shots at Hillary like the scumbag he is.

    Whereupon Miller took issue with the statement, said she would be a great secretary of state and the was prouder of her than he has ever been. Strange.

    Whereupon O’Reilly strarted making excuses for Obamas recent failures and Miller would have none of it.

    If anyone saw it perhaps they can comment on what I heard.

  177. wbboei, That would be a switch, and a welcome one. Miller’s been leaning right for years and has been no fan of the Clintons.

  178. How long till Gibbs time as Press Secretary is over and he is UNDER THE BUS??? LMAO!!!! This is priceless!!!

    Jake Tapper at today’s press conference

    youtube.com/watch?v=D-4qEz1vea0&eurl=

  179. Paula Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

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    Thanks Paula,

    “Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has notified Congress and her staff that she intends to get started quickly on talks with the Russians, who have voiced interest in recent weeks in settling on a new treaty calling for cutbacks in arsenals on both sides.”

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    Thank God for Hillary!

  180. wbboei Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    I have been told that the comedian Dennis Miller was on the Bill O’Reilly show last night–I did not see it myself.

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    wbboei,

    it makes me sick to hear O’Reilly bragging about how fair he is to both Obama and Hillary. If anything, he bends over backwards to make excuses for the idiot while at the same time resorting to desperate measures to attack the Clintons.

  181. djia Says:

    February 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

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    OMG! “Did you have a more pertinent question?”

    What an idiot!

  182. wbboei, That would be a switch, and a welcome one. Miller’s been leaning right for years and has been no fan of the Clintons.
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    Paula–quite so. And that surprised me as well.

  183. LMAO!!! ” Reid said on the floor earlier that “we should outlaw polls.” They’re nothing but trouble for Democrats.”

    Harry Hangs It Up For the Night; Stimulus Vote Postponed Until Tomorrow

    So much for having the votes for the bill tonight, huh? Isn’t this the same mistake Pelosi made on the bailout package the first time around— coming to the floor and overpromising without the votes to make it happen? At least Harry saw the writing on the wall and bailed before an actual defeat on the vote, although I’m not sure the extra time is going to buy him any votes for this version of the bill.

    Momentum continues to favor the Republicans’ side of the argument and make red-state Democrats nervous, as a new CBS poll shows that 81 percent of the American public believes the bill should be a bipartisan effort, and only 13 percent believe it’s okay to pass it with only Democratic support.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said tonight shortly before 9 p.m. that he thought it best that the Senate stop legislating for the night and reconvene tomorrow morning with the stimulus package as their first priority. A final vote on the package was widely expected tonight, and Reid called off the proceedings with amendments still pending.

    “There are an number of Republican Senators working with Democratic Senators to come up with an alternative,” he said of the negotiations he cited as the reason for holding off. “I think we need tonight and some of tomorrow to see if we can do it.”

    If, he said, the parties don’t come to an agreement by tomorrow and it looks as though the Senate is “spinning our wheels,” the Democrat plans to file for a cloture vote.

    “Everyone’s gonna have to give a little and understand that this is a process, we have to move this ball down the court,” he said. “I would hope that we could complete this legislation tomorrow. I’m cautiously optimistic that we can do that.”

    The new CBS poll also offers this tidbit, which would be helpful to Democrats in coming up with an alternative, if they were actually interested in doing that instead of in spending a trillion dollars on their favorite causes and programs:

    Asked whether higher government spending or tax cuts for business would be more effective in ending the recession, 59 percent choose the tax cuts. Just 22 percent prefer more government spending.

    Twenty-two percent? No wonder Reid said on the floor earlier that “we should outlaw polls.” They’re nothing but trouble for Democrats.

    Here’s a look at a handful of the Republican amendments Democrats rejected today:

    An amendment by Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) to cut $47 billion in wasteful spending.

    An amendment by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) cut corporate and individual income taxes and repeal the AMT.

    An amendment by Sen. John Thune (R-SD) to require funding for all projects in the bill occur within one year.

    An amendment by Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) to require spending cuts and a move to a balanced budget once the economy recovers.

    An amendment by Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) to cut $5.2 billion in pet projects and replace it with the same amount of defense spending.

    An amendment by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) to cut the tax rate for the lowest tax bracket in half.

    An amendment by Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) to repeal the 1993 Social Security tax increase.

    And, a McCain amendment to strike the “Buy American” provision from the bill.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer called Republicans “out of touch” on the floor tonight. The next time Republicans need lessons in being “in touch” with just 22 percent of the electorate, I’m sure they’ll let him know.

    Posted by Mary Katharine Ham on February 5, 2009 09:04 PM | Permalink

    http://weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/02/harry_hangs_it_up_for_the_nigh.asp

  184. it makes me sick to hear O’Reilly bragging about how fair he is to both Obama and Hillary. If anything, he bends over backwards to make excuses for the idiot while at the same time resorting to desperate measures to attack the Clintons.
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    O’Reilly is an egotistical phoney who could not stand up to Obama. If he and Olberstrumfuerher went into a wwf cage match I would hope neither one of them would come out alive. Olberman would appreciate that comment since it hearkens back to something he said. Neither one of them have any sense of honor or decency.

  185. LMAO!!! ” Reid said on the floor earlier that “we should outlaw polls.”
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    In other words, the public be damned. In fact we should outlaw outlaws like Reid and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.

  186. wbboei

    The polls have been telling them all along who they want to lead the country and what they want the country to do. We are not a bunch of ignorant voters. America has a high percentage of educated voters. Yet they are ignored. I wonder how long before these voters will get tired of being ignored.

    Reid, do you even understand what a Democracy is. Democracy is a ruling of a country of the people, by the people, for the people.

    So what about that statement leads you to believe that you should ignore polls.

  187. MJ, I did not agree with EVERY agenda that Hillary had, nor McCain, nor Palin, but I supported all three. I have nothing to agree upon with the Huckster and he will never be MY President!! I am neither Dimocrat, which I presume you think I am, nor a Republican. I am for country over party; for the future generations and the little ones now to actually have a future. So, if I disagree with someone on this post, I am not a TRUE Hillary supporter? One did not have to be a Dimocrat to support Hillary, and the party left her supporters not the other way around.

  188. RGB,
    Maybe they are selected BECAUSE they had tax problems.

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    I doubt it. Why would Obama do that? It’s been a delay and embarassment to him.

    My thought is, are there any people of such rank who have NOT made some tax errors in the last couple of decades? Is ANYONE qualified to cast the first stone — who has been in such a complex financial situation and hired a nanny?

    How many nannies are there who have all their immigration papers in perfect shape all the time? If they could do that, they wouldn’t be working as nannies, they would be working as paralegals.

  189. MJ, this Christmas tree is all about spending and little about fixing the economic problems, the housing problems, the mortgage problems, about lessening the recession and is totally not going to help or fix the problems.It does nothing to stop job losses and creates even fewer jobs – it does nothing but mulitply the problems, especially for future generations.I predicted before the election that we would be in a depression before Dec 2009. This package is mostly to do with ‘helping’ those who ‘helped’ them. Does quid quo pro sound familiar?It is not stimulative. It is spending. It will have little effect for several years. We need help now. They overpaid what, $78 billion of the TARP money and I do not trust them to even spend it as they have outlined.

    Obama can not be trusted, Obama can not trust Pepoopsie, Obama can not trust Reid, and the citizens can not trust Obama. Everything they do is suspect after all the sh! they were successful in pulling off. I do not trust ‘them’ with my future. I do not trust ‘them’ with the future of my children. I do not trust ‘them’ with the future of my great grandchildren.

  190. ShortTermer,

    lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08110606.html

    Look what kind of site that is! Extreme anti-choice.

    And what if a pro-abortion group did support Obama against McCain? Our quarrel is with NARAL and such who supported Obama against Hillary.

    Even so, the article does not claim PP endorsed BO (except by implication in the headline). It just says BO has supported PP and abortion/birth control in general in the past. It claims PP and similar groups ‘helped put him’ in office, but gives no evidence or details. How much should we believe from such a site?

    If PP did endorse Obama any time, their press release page missed that tidbit of news.

  191. curiosityhasme Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Admin nails it again and again. One added tidbit – Even though Dimocratic voters “went through the motion” of “oting for Obama, BamBam – like Ford – was actually APPOINTED. “Chosen” by the corrupt DNC and the Soros/Chicago Combine – the FIX WAS IN, dating back for yearsssss…..

    The Ford funeral at the National Cathedral recalled what a decent and humble man the VP was and how his pardon healed our country during the political crisis.

    ==============

    Bullshit. Ford was appointed to get Nixon off the hook, and did. That’s not ‘healing the country.’ That’s just following Cheney’s orders so Nixon walked free and his critics were forced to shut up. Just like Obama’s selection forced Hillary supporters to shut up.

  192. TDO, Planned Parenthood is actually irrelavent to my point [I would react the same way to other social engineering program money]- it is ALL the social engineering expenditures in this spending bill. A true stimulus package must be about creating jobs, stoping loss of jobs [unemployment figures came out today and they were not pretty], the housing crisis, the mortgage crisis and did I say about creating jobs and cutting taxes. It is not about left or right. It is about saving our country.
    In reference to the report that Peloopsi might have said she would like to piss on someone/newspaper,Nancy better to be pissed off than pissed on. Did you not mean to say Let Them eat cake????

  193. Gibbs represents Obama well. He knows just where all the “uhhs” go. But I guess that’s not hard to do when it’s every other word!

    Also: I really agree with points made by Freckles and MJ.

    So much for post-partisan.

  194. You are right turndownobama-com, it was not our Country that needed healing, it was the shamed Republican party that needed healing and Ford did it as told. It was not long until Reagan came to bring a bitter divide that has only gotten worse through the years.

    What Republican has ever been concerned about “healing our country” since?
    I love how it is not “socialistic” for the Gov. to give money to private companies, but is “socialistic” to not want the money to go for bonus payments for failure and corruption.

    I remember when Reagan cut food inspections and said we could heat food until everything in it was dead. Peanut butter crackers can’t be cooked. Melamine doesn’t “die” Mr. Reagan! But a lot of people have,

  195. wbboei Says:
    February 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    I have been told that the comedian Dennis Miller was on the Bill O’Reilly show last night–I did not see it myself.
    ****************************************************************************

    dennis miller refers to hillary as charming and endearing after o’reilly tries to slam her (for the second night in a row) regarding the joke she made at her swearing-in ceremony. you can watch the entire video at foxnews.com/oreilly/..click on miller-time.
    didn’t want to publish it here as miller uses it as an excuse to rant on BC, etc.

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