Hillary Clinton Bids Adieu; Barack Obama Threatens Veto

Senator Hillary Clinton bid adieu to the U.S. Senate today.

Earlier the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 16-1 to recommend her nomination as Secretary of State to the full U.S. Senate. High-priced brothel customer Vitter (whose home state Louisiana has profited the most from Bill Clinton’s fund-raising) was the sole dissenting vote – which says something, we are not sure exactly what, about the men who despise the extraordinary and powerful Hillary Clinton.

Afterwards Hillary spoke to the many hypocritical boobs in the U.S. Senate who back-stabbed her and bid a gracious adieu to those lowlifes.

In her speech Hillary was gracious as always:

At about 11:15 a.m, Hillary Clinton took the floor, in electric blue, to deliver her farewell address to the Senate. [snip]

She also thanked her staff — and took the extraordinary, yet characteristic step, of entering their names and accomplishments in the public record.

* * *

Last night some Hillary Clinton friends, along with Chelsea, were joined by assorted shameless backstabbers at a party for Hillary.

Clinton, whose eyes welled up as she worked the elegant LBJ room in the Capitol, hugged and kissed colleagues, posed for pictures and thanked them one by one as she reminded them she would be “just around the corner.” [snip]

Clinton was feted by her daughter, Chelsea, and by some members of the Obama team — Rahm Emanuel, the incoming White House chief of staff, transition chief John Podesta and economic adviser Larry Summers, who left frequently to chat on his cell phone in the hall, a stray shirt tail hanging below his suit coat. [snip]

Thirty-one senators attended the party, and there were both Democrats and Republicans there. Among them: host Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Max Baucus, Mary Landrieu, Barbara Mikulski, Bill Nelson, John Kerry, Jon Tester, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham, Bob Corker, Olympia Snowe, Johnny Isakson and John McCain, against whom Clinton might have run for president if things had worked out differently.

More than a dozen House members from New York House were also there, including two who’d like to replace Clinton in the senate — Upstate New York Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand and Long Island Rep. Steve Israel.

Schumer said he had “complete confidence” that Clinton would be “the best Secretary of State this country has ever known. [snip]

“Hillary,” he said, “you’re the greatest.”

Mikulski, a Democrat from Maryland, called Clinton “the best friend you can have.”

Clinton said she wanted to have “a real partnership between the State Department and the Congress.”

Let’s go out and make the future better than it is,” she said.

Before she leaves the Senate Hillary Clinton will likely vote to finally pass and expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, a major and long-term Hillary Clinton goal. The House on Wednesday passed the bill which will extend coverage to four million uninsured children bringing the total of children covered to eleven million children.

[Video via HillBuzz]

* * *

While Senator Hillary Clinton performs Wonder Woman feats, Barack Obama proves to be a stumblebum.

After promising a celestial choir of unity, Obama now offers cacophony. Get this – Obama is threatening to veto – the Democratic Congress!

Barack Obama privately delivered a pre-inauguration veto threat to fellow Democrats on Tuesday, saying they would not deny him use of the remaining $350 billion in federal bailout funds.

Obama coupled his threat with a promise to revise elements of the original bailout program that have drawn widespread criticism, pledging that billions will go toward helping homeowners facing foreclosure. Several Democrats said his commitments, to be made in writing, would be enough to prevent an embarrassing pre-inauguration drubbing for the president-elect when the Senate votes this week. [snip]

There was plenty of controversy surrounding Obama’s decision to tap the $350 billion remaining from the financial bailout program that Congress created last fall, when the nation’s credit markets ceased working and plunged an already weak economy into a tailspin.

President George W. Bush, acting at Obama’s request, formally notified Congress on Monday that Treasury wanted to use the funds, but Congress can vote to block the move. [snip]

He could veto anti-bailout legislation if it came to that, and there are more than enough votes to uphold him.

He said if for some reason it passed, he would veto it,” Lieberman said.

But neither the president-elect nor fellow Democrats are eager to see that unfold, fearing it could damage Obama politically even before he takes the oath of office as the 44th president next Tuesday. “I don’t think that’s the way you start out a presidency,” said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.

Another broken Obama promise. Instead of unity and post-partisanship – veto threats as the very first order of business.

Obama can’t be trusted… he simply can’t be trusted.

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106 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton Bids Adieu; Barack Obama Threatens Veto

  1. admin says:

    Obama is threatening to veto – the Democratic Congress!

    Funny.

    So he’s **trying** to appear different from W., who couldn’t even find the veto pen until well into his second term.

    But in reality, it’s just theatrics. Bush did plenty of bluffing too. The two are similar in that without knowledge of people and the issues, they are hard-headed, not resolute. Incurious, they give knee jerk reactions and get bunker mentality. We saw how Obama sealed off the press in order to prevent exposure to his gaffes and his complete lack of understanding of the issue. He’s not even at the Cliff-Notes level, its’ Cliff-Notes for Dummies – Lite.

  2. turndownobama-com Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    birdgal Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
    I think people are jealous of Senator Clinton. Why else, all the vitrolic hatred? It is so out of proportion.
    ================

    The Clintons have been hated since their days in Arkansas, at least. So, ftm, were the Kennedys; JFK was in danger of losing re-election. Strong hatred of FDR too.

    Iirc RFK Jr wrote about this in HuffPo early in the campaign.

    ———————————————————————————————————-

    Maybe, because they wanted to help the little man. Not enough perks for business?

  3. Lots of good news from the plane incident in New York’s Hudson River. It’s almost as if Wonder Woman Hillary Clinton was on the job, but it turns out it was ordinary New Yorkers in business suits and work clothes who helped get the plane passengers to safety.

  4. Thank you admin. Your description of vittner and obama are spot on. Your tribute to Hillary is spot on.

    This woman who has had to fight every step of the way has made history and will continue to make history. She will ensure that obama’s record is just that little bit less mired in mud, even if she has to drag him every step of the way too.

  5. If anyone’s following the Geithner tax issue, I just posted a bunch of cites on the previous thread.

  6. TG there were no casualties but a headline at Drudge says the plane crashed coz of a flock of birds.

    That doesn’t sound possible.

  7. # basil9 Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    TG there were no casualties but a headline at Drudge says the plane crashed coz of a flock of birds.

    That doesn’t sound possible.
    ************
    If the engines “inhale” birds, it can cause lose of power and crash.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_strike

  8. Admin,
    Thanks for the HRC senate farewell speech. She spent nearly the entire 9+ minutes on the WTC disaster and brought those memories back so vividly . . .

    What a class act. I hope someone can post the remainder of her speech.

  9. Dot48, we wretch anytime we use their video or any “news” cites from them too. In this case they were the only ones with live video and our balance test of providing news vs. wretching we went with providing non-political news from the MeSsNBC.

    We apologize and will appropriately and repeatedly slap ourselves.

  10. Answering my own question (waiting for WBB to set me straight), it seems that everyone is working from the premise that the Clintons are corrupt or nefarious in some way so we need oversight for them — but not for the 700 billion we’re giving away.

    This is the reason that CNN can have a headline Can Hillary get Bill to Behave? Evidently Bill is capable of much worse than allowing torture, leaking a CIA agent’s name, losing 4000+ soldiers in an unnecessary war and lying about it all. But when it comes to world peace, none of that measures up to an indiscretion with a seductive intern. Hmmm…a president who left us with a surplus, stopped a genocide in the Balkans, and left America higher in world opinion should be derided, called “Bill”, and assumed to be up to no good.

    His wife? She is not to be trusted either.

    I’m sick of it.

    BTW, Margaret Carlson’s attack on the CGI — who assisted those countries and contributors? Bush was prez and the Repubs were in charge. What does she think the Clintons did?

  11. The Senate voted today to not block $350 billion additional bailout money. Obama had threatened a veto if the Senate had voted to block the $350 billion.

    The details of the vote are interesting. The Senate has 58 Democrats (eventually 59 when Franken gets certified fully). The TARP vote was 52 to 42.

    6 Republicans and 46 Democrats voted not to block.

    34 Republicans and 8 Democrats voted to block the money.

    It will be interesting to see which Republicans did not back their leadership.

    It will be even more interesting to see which Democrats figuratively slapped Obama in the face.

  12. Hillary reminds me of the person who sets out with high goals and high expectations and she works extra hard to bring everyone to consensus…

    …she has to always go that extra mile to prove herself because not only is she battling enemies but also people she has to convince to at least meet her half way…she has to use all this extra energy combating false impressions that are repeated about her and spend valuable time ‘proving’ herself and changing those stubborn minds…she has to constantly reassure insecure egos that she is not a threat, super smart with great ideas, yes…but she won’t hurt them, honest…that is what makes her so truly remarkable to me…most people would become cynical, angry, bitter or just give up…

    …but Hillary has the amazing ability to stay focused and above all the nonsense…to keep her eye on the goal…and then, in the most gracious and often selfless way, then she just works harder and continues on…until she not only surprises and ‘wins over’ many of her ‘enemies’ but also, sooner or later, she is proven to be way ahead of her time and that she was right all the time…she is left standing with the answers waiting for the rest of them to catch up with her…

    *****************************

    margarat carlson is another one in the mode of dowdie, ruth marcus, sally quinn, andrea mitchell, and michelle bernard (ann kornblut too)…they always same the same thing…they pull out their favorite Hillary and Bill narratives and all together as if in their same time warps, knowingly nod and agree with each other…they have become a joke…

    …the only problem for that whole bunch is Hillary could care less…she leaves them all in her dust…she soldiers on opening new and exciting successful chapters in her life and on the international world stage…and all her ‘critics’ can do is stand back in her shadows just observing her from afar…Hillary is making history and those “stumblebums’, to borrow a word from ADMIN, are just stuck in their same old rut trying to juggle the same old words to make them sound new…

  13. A 28 page pdf of Hillary Clinton’s accomplishments in the Senate called “Senator Clinton: Champion For New York is here at:

    http://www.clinton.senate.gov/documents/Champion_for_New_York.pdf

    The Table of Contents:

     Standing up for New York after 9/11
     Creating Economic Opportunity
     Meeting Our Responsibility to Servicemembers and Veterans
     Driving Change in Health Care
     Standing Up for Women’s Health
     Advocating for Children and Families
     Leading the Way to a New Energy Future
     Addressing Infrastructure Challenges
     New York by Region
     Senator Clinton By the Numbers
     Timeline

  14. admin Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    ————————————————————————

    And Bo’s is how long? maybe 2 pages, if that.

  15. admin Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    A 28 page pdf of Hillary Clinton’s accomplishments in the Senate called “Senator Clinton: Champion For New York is here at:
    &&&&&&

    Hillary’s is 28 pages, in TimesNewRoman font size 7.

    Obama’s is 28 pages, in Wingdings font size 48.

  16. Just as an observation: the passengers of the U.S. Airways plane that landed on the Hudson River did not need change or hope – they needed and fortunately had – an experienced pilot.

  17. admin Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
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    Experience counts, when the chips are down.

  18. admin Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    Just as an observation: the passengers of the U.S. Airways plane that landed on the Hudson River did not need change or hope – they needed and fortunately had – an experienced pilot.
    ====================

    And it didn’t matter whether he had paid 100% of his taxes. Similarly we need an experienced Sec of Treasury right now, Tim Geithner.

  19. admin Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    Just as an observation: the passengers of the U.S. Airways plane that landed on the Hudson River did not need change or hope – they needed and fortunately had – an experienced pilot.
    &&&&&

    “This is Capt. Obama. I have had very little aviation training, and this is my first flight in this big of an airplane. I’m just as scared as you.

    If I panic, and my co-pilot is too tipsy to take over, please locate Stewardess #1, the feisty blonde lady. She’s flown these hundreds of times, and wrote the instruction manual, was my trainer in aviation school, and advocated for stronger safety measures, increased pilot rest times, sexual harassment issues as pertaining to “flight attendants”, fuel efficiency standards, oh yeah, and fought for unionization of pilots and flight attendants.

    If anything out of control happens, she’ll know what to do. So don’t be too worried.

    Enjoy your trip on HopeyChangey Airways. May God watch over us.

    Hey, Co-pilot Biden. What’s this button do?”

  20. Sorry turndown, experience does count for a lot. But having ethical problems does not engender much confidence.

    As far as we know, his “experience” is deep, and so are his connections, but he might have hidden agendas, just like we’re concerned about what chits Obama has out that result in favors he must pay back.

    If this guy Geithner is ALL THAT, why can’t he keep himself out of trouble? Does he not understand the tax code? Sorry, have to disagree with ya.

  21. We need someone who can do the job right now — even if Geithner was wrong about sniper fire in Bosnia and did Lie About A Blow Job.

  22. Im so glad the Capatain of that Plane saved those lives what a Hero
    and at being an expierence Pilot he knew his stuff..
    Right on admin…

    Congrats to Hillary for a wonderfull farewell speech foggy bottom i wont forget that..Soros and the mainstream media can shut there mouths she beat you.
    Hillary at least does that hard work and you can trust her…she cares for the country the world …she so inspires me to work hard..

    keep on blocking all those news channel until they tell truth to the American people …even Hannity..he hates Hillary..19 million people is alott of votes she had…and they still will vote for her for anything
    and even President in 2012..Obama lies to much to go 8 years ..people wont take that anymore like from bush ..one term ..no change..in 4years no obama in 2012..I hope all thee American people will think of there vote for a President if we arent back on Track in 4 years .in reality.. it isnt that far away..

  23. We need someone who can do the job right now — even if Geithner was wrong about sniper fire in Bosnia and did Lie About A Blow Job.

    ————————————————

    It still does not mean he should be head of the treasury, if he cant keep his own affairs in order what makes you think he can keep the US Treasury in order, I don’t buy this shit that we need HIM, there is plenty other options.

  24. Also where was the Obama Messiah today, I half expected him to walk across the Hudson River, wave a hand and lift the plane out of the water, nope… guess he can’t do that either.

  25. I’m actually going to miss W.

    I’ll miss the oratorically challenged words, the sentence fuck ups, the dumbass statements (“most of our imports come from overseas”, one of my favourites).

    I hope Bambi’s teleprompter breaks down a lot.

  26. Some people said that HIllary should not be president because she fouled up about Bosnia, ignored caucuses till too late, left her campaign in debt, etc. She’s still the best choice. It does still make a difference whether you take the best choice or the second best.

    People are human. Mistakes get made. These jobs are too important to get too picky about people being … human. By the time you go far enough down the list to find someone perfect — we’ll all be jobless and foreclosed.

  27. Someone asked me today, “What dog do you think Obama will bring to the WH”

    My reply was “He’s already bringing one bitch into the WH with him, why does he need another”

    It was just begging to be said, you know one of those times where its just on the tip of your tongue and you really shouldnt say it but your inner devil goes what the hell.

  28. moononpluto Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
    I’m actually going to miss W.

    I’ll miss the oratorically challenged words, the sentence fuck ups, the dumbass statements (”most of our imports come from overseas”, one of my favourites).
    &&&&&&

    Obama will be replete with his own “gems”:

    “Uh, ah, um, ommmm,”
    “We will talk with dictators without preconditions and without airconditioning”.
    “I was against FISA before I was for it”.

  29. I was just looking at a blog spot where they were discussing a 3rd term for O. The discussion was very civil, and most people were saying wait to see how he does, and I would rather have only two terms. Really nothing horrible directed to O.

    A Kook Aid drinker comes on and indicates this is just an opportunity to bash him. There was really nothing there. One person said if he accomplished half of what he promised, he would be the best President ever. I guess lying about how well you can do it unimportant. We have such low standards for our Presidents that we would think doing 50% was passing.

    I got to quite reading other blogs.

  30. Hi everyone, i have not been on for a while, been busy. It is tax time.

    Just a tid bit of info, clients are coming in the first thing they ask: Are we getting another Stimulus package. I tell them, I don’t know.

    I since May, i get all my info here. Keep up the good work.

    PS i want be watching tv at all on the 20th. I don’t want to see are hear O

  31. NewMexicoFan Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    I was just looking at a blog spot where they were discussing a 3rd term for O. The discussion was very civil, and most people were saying wait to see how he does, and I would rather have only two terms. Really nothing horrible directed to O.
    &&&&&&&&&

    If the Bots insist on changing the constitution to repeal the 22nd amendment, I’m going to counter that move with a Bill Clinton to King-3. Check Mate!!!

  32. bluegirl Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
    rgb, just loved your little story of the “Hopey Changey Airways” That was really cute!
    &&&&\

    thanks. It just seemed so…apt.

  33. If the Bots insist on changing the constitution to repeal the 22nd amendment, I’m going to counter that move with a Bill Clinton to King-3. Check Mate!!!

    rgb44hrc

    Amen

  34. neetabug Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    If the Bots insist on changing the constitution to repeal the 22nd amendment, I’m going to counter that move with a Bill Clinton to King-3. Check Mate!!!

    rgb44hrc

    Amen
    ============

    AMEN!

  35. # neetabug Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    If the Bots insist on changing the constitution to repeal the 22nd amendment, I’m going to counter that move with a Bill Clinton to King-3. Check Mate!!!
    rgb44hrc
    Amen
    *************
    Bill Clinton is the only President that I can think of that was probably denied a third term by the 22nd. It was an anti-FDR amendment by the Repubs. I think it should be repealed but it isn’t going to happen. 2/3rds vote in both Houses of Congress and 3/4 of the States; not going to happen.

  36. Considering the 2 year election process we are now faced with, perhaps the idea of a single 6-year term has some merit. I would like it if we had a way to vote ‘NO’ about 1/2 way through.

    I would debate it along with banning caucuses, tamper-proof voting machines, and other 21st century improvements.

  37. SHV Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    *****************************************

    I remember the Repubs wanting to give Reagan a third term. Boy, would that have been a disaster with his Alzheimers…

  38. # gonzotx Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    SHV Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    *****************************************
    I remember the Repubs wanting to give Reagan a third term. Boy, would that have been a disaster with his Alzheimers…
    ************
    Wasn’t going to happen…Nancy got him through the last two years..he was a Zombie.

  39. Whom were the back stabbers who didn’t have the courage to attend Hillary’s farewell? I sure Teddy and MaCaskil avoided it like the plague…..I ‘ll give blow heart Kerry some credit for at least attending…and probably bitching how he should have been the nominee for SOs.

  40. This may have already been posted. If so, sorry…but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “Rollcall” yet and I know some were curious.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN).

    Obama won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

    Burris, in his first vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin’s test papers, and gave the same answer.

  41. This may have already been posted. If so, sorry…but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “Rollcall” yet and I know some were curious.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN)

    Obama won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

    Burris, in his first vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin and copied their test answers.

  42. This may have already been posted. If so, sorry…but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “Rollcall” yet and I know some were curious.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN).
    Obama won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

    Burris, in his first vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin and copied their test answers.

  43. This may have already been posted. If so, sorry…but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “Rollcall” yet and I know some were curious.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN).
    Obama won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

    Burris, in his first vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin and copied their test answer.

  44. jbstonesfan Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    Whom were the back stabbers who didn’t have the courage to attend Hillary’s farewell?
    ========================

    It was invitation only. Probably they were not invited. Maloney and Israel were.

  45. This may have already been posted. If so, sorry, but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “ROLLCALL” yet and I know some were as curious as I.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders, VT, voted to block the bailout funds, as did 7 Dems: Jean Shaheen, NH; Ron Wyden, OR; Ben Nelson, NE; Blanche Lincoln, AR; Russ Feingold. WI;Maria Cantwell, WA; Evan Bayh, IN.

    Obama won 6 Rep votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander, TN; Jon Kyl, AZ; Judd Greg, NH; Richard Lugar, IN;Olympia Snowe, ME; George Voinovich, OH.

    Burris, in his first US Senate vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin’s test papers and copied their answers

  46. Please, everyone send Vittner a note or email. Here is what I wrote to email:

    Sir:

    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted today 16-1 to recommend Hillary Clinton for nomination as Secretary of State to the full U.S. Senate. The lone dissenting vote was you, the high-priced brothel customer whose home state Louisiana has profited the most from Bill Clinton’s fund-raising. This says something about the men, like you, who despise the extraordinary and powerful Hillary Clinton.

    I surmise that Hillary Clinton and those who support her are women who will not sell themselves but have to endure the sexism and misogyny of your ilk.

    Your questioning of her during the nomination was an abomanation. Classless. Clueless. Low. Disrepectful.

    Forever a Hillary Clinton supporter,

  47. Having trouble reading and writing to Pink.

    Here is another try.

    This may have already been posted. If so, sorry…but the roll call hasn’t even been published by “Rollcall” yet and I know some were curious.

    Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN 0(IN).
    Obama won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

    Burris, in his first vote, looked over at Reid and Durbin and copied their test answers.

    Hope this posts before midnight. I’m having computer problems so have put in the library’s queue. If it doesn’t leave by midnight I can resend after 6 am in the morning.

  48. I saw her speech today, I cried

    I read your article admin, I cried

    Dang, what a positively wonderful women Hillary is.

  49. Answering my own question (waiting for WBB to set me straight), it seems that everyone is working from the premise that the Clintons are corrupt or nefarious in some way so we need oversight for them — but not for the 700 billion we’re giving away.
    ————————————
    Freckles: there is a Republican operative named Eric Dezenhall who represents public figures who are targeted by the media for irrational attacks. He has written a book called Nail’em deals with the subject. He makes the following points in connection with what we are talking about.

    1. America has become a “culture of attack” because of a pervasive sense of unfulfilled entitlement or anxiety.

    2. The sense of entitlement is based on what they see on television but do not have. The attacker wants to join a world that never really existed.

    3. The anxiety arises out of a fear of job loss, similar to what occurred in Salem Massachusetts prior to the witch burning. It had been a profitable seaport for a century but was losing its preeminent position to Glouster. The attacker is anxious and wants to feel empowered.

    4. The weapon of choice is not the truth but the allegation. To be believed, the allegation must be i) plausible, and ii)resonate. It rests on emotion and gets people to igore the facts-e.g. modo.

    5. The forum is one that offers no resistance–e.g. AP which does not allow reader feedback, or MSNBC panels which offer no dissenting voice.

    6. Circulate false allegations to people who are pre-disposed to certain kinds of stories so it will bottom up–e.g. false allegations of racism.

    7. In 1692 those who denied being witches were exectuted. Those who admitted to it were merely shunned. The goal was to fill the attackers void–e.g. Hillarys failure to say her Iraq vote was a mistake caused them to persecute.

    8. In modern day witch hunts, attackers cloak their fears in social principle, and invoke the public interest. They can be seen in the form of gotcha journalism, the political campaign, internet flaming, hidden camera stings, biased jounalism, bad camera shots, etc.

    9. Witch hunts stop when the public gets sick of them. When the attackers get tired, cocky or careless in pursuing their cause. And when it runs out of steam, a bold charismantic figure emerges who is not afraid of the attacks. During the McCarthy era, the witch hunt stopped when people began to ask could I be next.

    10. And that is why it is imperative for us to follow admins lead and properly attribute the attacks on Hillary by big media to misogyny and sexism. It is true on the one hand and tactically smart on the other.

    11. Finally, Eric explains how to counter attack the attacker. Two things he relies on heavily to defend his client: i) the media does not want to be be used in a hoax, and ii) the public does not like to be conned. That is the risk Barack and big media are running now with this lavish coronation at a time of economic decline.

  50. One thing I do have as a result of what we have been though is a compensive indictment of big media on seven counts the scurrilous way they treated Hillary.

    Turndown: did you get my email? This may be something worth posting when those big media weasels try to slip out of this. We have hard proof of their stategy with vivid examples.

  51. moononpluto Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
    We need someone who can do the job right now — even if Geithner was wrong about sniper fire in Bosnia and did Lie About A Blow Job.

    ————————————————

    It still does not mean he should be head of the treasury, if he cant keep his own affairs in order what makes you think he can keep the US Treasury in order, I don’t buy this shit that we need HIM, there is plenty other options.
    ============================

    That’s what Michelle Obama said about Hillary: if she couldn’t keep her own house in order she didn’t belong in the White House.

    Other options as good as Geithner? Other options as good as Hillary?

    As someone pointed out, after Bill Clinton’s first two choices for AG were knocked out on nanny paperwork, it was down to the third choice — Janet Reno.

    (No offense to JR, who was sound legally but not up to the political side.)

    If this personal tax thing is the worst that can be found about Geithner, imo we should grab him; way above average.

  52. margarat carlson is another one in the mode of dowdie, ruth marcus, sally quinn, andrea mitchell, and michelle bernard (ann kornblut too)…
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    THE UNFLUSHABLES: they belong in a port-a-potty so they do not stink up the public square. Maggots, especially Quinn.

  53. Thirty-one senators attended the party, and there were both Democrats and Republicans there. Among them: host Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Max Baucus, Mary Landrieu, Barbara Mikulski, Bill Nelson, John Kerry, Jon Tester, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham, Bob Corker, Olympia Snowe, Johnny Isakson and John McCain, against whom Clinton might have run for president if things had worked out differently.
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    Admin> what are we to make of this? Where were Feinstein, Boxer, Murray, Cantwell whom I thought were Hillary supporters? Why were Tester, and Backus there who opposed us in Montana? I can only imagine that Durbin was there to spy. And Kerry was there to recommend more books for her to read on international relations and to show us that he is in Shakespeares words

    A poor player
    Who struts and frets
    His hour upon the stage
    And then is heard on more
    (Note: we should be so lucky}

    (He is) a tale
    Told by an idiot
    Full of sound and fury
    Signifying nothing

  54. NewMexicoFan Says:

    January 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm re: talk of the third term
    ******************************************

    re: that talk of a third term…something tells me people may be ‘tired’ of him at the end of the first term…four years is a long time…twelve would be unbearable…obama fatigue and the trap of overexposure and hype is already in the air for many outside of the MSM…just the junk they are selling alone is enough to start getting on people’s nerves…very tacky…very!

    …it is like the anticipation of waiting to go to a big party and in this case with all the ‘historical’ impact, the big day finally comes and then the partiers drink too much and wake up with a big hangover…time will tell…the higher they rise, the further they fall…we’ll see how long it takes for everyone to come back to reality and realize he is human and start perceiving him as mortal and not some magical, super supreme being…and then begin questioning his actual experience and qualifications…our media always asks the tough questions after the fact, when the blatant obvious facts are no longer unavoidable…

  55. wbboei: Sorry about the double dip mail from me.The postmster put out a coded not known here bulletin.Being a young novice and still consulting Windows XP for Dummies my self confidence has been breeched.ha hah!.Enjoy friend.I am back on track with my itinerary of “All Hillary 24/7 while the new landlord to be at 1600 spends his time designing a new room to replace the oval office design.The new name : ” THE HALL OF MIRRORS” from floor to ceiling,or “EGO CENTER”.

    By ABM90 Keep warm friend. -7 here this am.

  56. And it didn’t matter whether he had paid 100% of his taxes. Similarly we need an experienced Sec of Treasury right now, Tim Geithner.

    My daughter works in finance in NY. She feels that Geithner was a part of the problem ….not what we need right now.

  57. I guess this all kind of feels to me like a double standard in so many ways.

    Vetting of the Clintons is obnoxious, but no vetting of O, and what is done is considered Sexists.

    The acceptance of the Dims of a stolen election when they were outraged in 2000.

    The discussion that whatever problems Tim Geithner has will be ignored because he is a Clinton supporter and his is a wiz at the Finance stuff.

    So what are our rules and standards, and who has to abide by them, only some people?

    It is better to have a crook we can trust, or a crook that is part of our circle. They get a pass on the rules. Just like O gets a pass on his BC, even though the Constitution is clear. There are American citizen out there that know the truth on the BC that are just keeping it quiet, and there is a Supreme Court out there right now, who twisted the rules in 2000, and now are avoiding looking at a situation that has the potential of violating our Constitution, yet they dismiss the cases as though this is a game, and they are looking for the right wording. That did not happen when they decided the election in 2000.

  58. So is the argument in favor of Geithner that he is the only one experienced enough to do the job? No matter what his weaknesses are?

    Sorry. I don’t buy that. Surely there is at least one other financial scholar in the whole of the U.S.A. that is equally capable?

    Heck! If obamastupid is crass enough to choose a media celebrity for his surgeon general…why not pick Lou Dobbs instead of Geithner and keep the trend going???

  59. Geithner was part of the team that sponsored a lot of the deregulation that has got our financial markets in such turmoil. He should now at least have the sense to know what went wrong so he could well do a good job if he were monitored closely. Frankly, it may not matter much who is in the Treasury if the system itself is not vastly changed from the current mess. We have to keep Soros out of it as much as possible. This could help:

    Volker Calls For Changes To Banks In an article on the front of its business section, the Washington Post reports that Paul Volcker, the chairman of the Federal Reserve during the Carter and Reagan administrations, “unveiled a plan yesterday to radically rethink the global financial system, including measures that would dramatically expand government control over banking and investment in the United States.” The report “recommends limiting the size of banks, monitoring executive pay and regulating hedge funds” and “calls for vastly increased oversight of major banks, going as far as to recommend the end of an era of mega banks.”

  60. “The report “recommends limiting the size of banks, monitoring executive pay and regulating hedge funds” and “calls for vastly increased oversight of major banks, going as far as to recommend the end of an era of mega banks.”

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    Definitely a step in the right direction!

  61. I need to step back from my earlier comment a bit. It was sensible on hillarys part to invite Kerry and Durbin. Durbin will be speaker when reid steps down and kerry is head of the foreign relations committee to whom she will be making periodic reports as sos, and who is obviously nursing a wounded ego.

    I will rely on Emjay to tell you why Sally Quinn is particularly evil, and how that figures in to media treatment of Bill and Hillary. She is as you know the doyenne of the Georgetown social set since she is married to Ben Bradley. People like Quinn have utter contempt for the people of this country and that is not idle speculation.

    I am off to Canada for awhile.

  62. Volker Calls For Changes To Banks In an article on the front of its business section, the Washington Post reports that Paul Volcker, the chairman of the Federal Reserve during the Carter and Reagan administrations, “unveiled a plan yesterday to radically rethink the global financial system, including measures that would dramatically expand government control over banking and investment in the United States.” The report “recommends limiting the size of banks, monitoring executive pay and regulating hedge funds” and “calls for vastly increased oversight of major banks, going as far as to recommend the end of an era of mega banks.”
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    Blue: great post. I have always admired this man.

  63. Hillary, Bill and Paul Volker are three people who work hard, do not try to take credit for other peoples work and put the American People first. They are in the best sense of the word patriots. Most of the people in congress are egotists first and patriots second–if at all. In additon, they are not leaders as most of us understand the word.

    Someone told me I was bitter about the election. I told them lets stipulate to that and lets talk instead about why I am bitter and then perhaps you will be bitter too.

  64. For me the argument revolves around four issues: i) hijacking democracy, ii) delusion, iii) racism and iv) sexism. A chapter could be written about each. The leading question would be do you believe in democracy? Did how can you justify . . .

  65. So now I am wondering how well Susan Rice will work with Hillary.

    Any thoughts?
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    Rice will have to work with Hillary or Rice will be gone. Remember what happened to Craig.

  66. I am already getting ill at the spectacle that we will have to endure next Tuesday….I think I will unplug my TV’s and radio’s for a week . To think this fraud/manipulator is trying to copy Lincoln’s procession is an affront to all who have served this country….

    PS-David Gergen is another ex-Clinton staffer for whom Obama can do no wrong.

  67. Evidently Beloved Leader is trying his damndest to replicate Lincoln. Perhaps he will turn up with a false beard and a stovepipe hat for the ceremonies on Tuesday. Wouldn’t out it past Axelrod and the merry marketeers. This is another perfect moment for me to celebrate the fact that we no longer have a TV!!

  68. jbstonesfan,

    What I find most obnoxious and dread hearing about is M.O. and anything to do with her in the future.

  69. JanH Says:

    January 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    jbstonesfan,

    What I find most obnoxious and dread hearing about is M.O. and anything to do with her in the future.
    &&&&&&&

    She’ll be running for Senator from NY?

    Ewwwww.

  70. wbboei Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 10:33 am
    I am off to Canada for awhile.
    &&&&&&

    You don’t want to be inside US borders during the Coronation?

  71. I honestly dislike her (MO) than BO….he is a pragmatist, and all along knew he would need Bill/Hillary on board. She, and his inner circle, fought tough and nail against Hillary every step of the way. From the moment she refused to state that she would endorse Hillary if Hillary became the nominee, I knew this was a very mean spirited, petty, and vindictive individual. Off course, the media, with the help of the likes of Oprah, Mathews, et al., makes her out to be a victim who overcame her many obstacles…..like being a top paid atty in a prestigious law firm..lmao. I regret to say this, but I am actually feeling depressed that Bush is leaving the White House in favor of BO and his wife. Laura Bush certainly has a lot more class than both of them.

  72. Think I heard that Couric is going to be live all day Tuesday. yuk. Probably similar coverage on other networks. PBS joins in now too. So there will be much to avoid. Maybe some DVD rentals.
    As sobering as was the failure of US Airways flight yesterday from LaGuardia to NC, and as ridiculous as was all the coverage of it, responders brought a compelling, thrilling rush to this weary viewer that has not been matched since Hillary’s NH win. What a welcome change. I’ll tip my hat to George W. Bush, giving the current administration credit for steering the country toward better rescue plans. All involved yesterday were brilliant. Believe they could not have coordinate so much so quickly if we had not experienced 9/11, then reacted with improved strategies.
    Next, I tip my hat to Big Pink.
    I would like to donate.
    PayPal and I do not like each other.
    Is there an alternative?

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  74. I support Franken because Hillary did. He has, however, lost any sense of humor he ever had back when he wrote for SNL. Moreover, the liberal radio he was so influential in getting on the air, were many of the worst Hillary bashers out there. Still, better than Coleman….and anything having to do with Dick Morris.

  75. Carol Says:
    My daughter works in finance in NY. She feels that Geithner was a part of the problem ….not what we need right now.
    ====================

    Who does she want and how long would it take to vet them and persuade the Senate to confirm?

    EVERYONE was either part of the problem, or is needed elsewhere (eg Bair) or in a monastery in Shangri La for the last 30 years. Which might not be a bad idea.

  76. jb,

    Was it Franken or Frank that recently supported Sheila Bair wanting to stop foreclosures (similar to Hillary’s plan)?

  77. jbstonesfan Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    I honestly dislike her (MO) than BO….he is a pragmatist, and all along knew he would need Bill/Hillary on board. She, and his inner circle, fought tough and nail against Hillary every step of the way.
    ===============

    How do we know this? Sounds like tabloid stuff. It may be true, but how would we know?

  78. rgb44hrc Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
    JanH Says:

    January 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    jbstonesfan,

    What I find most obnoxious and dread hearing about is M.O. and anything to do with her in the future.
    &&&&&&&

    She’ll be running for Senator from NY?

    Ewwwww.
    =================

    LOL!

  79. blue Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
    Geithner was part of the team that sponsored a lot of the deregulation that has got our financial markets in such turmoil. He should now at least have the sense to know what went wrong so he could well do a good job if he were monitored closely.
    ====================

    Now THERE’S good sense! Almost everyone who actually worked in govt for that period was for that dereg. Many of them now think dereg went too far. They are the ones with the detailed experience to readjust it now.

  80. JanH Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
    So is the argument in favor of Geithner that he is the only one experienced enough to do the job? No matter what his weaknesses are?

    Sorry. I don’t buy that. Surely there is at least one other financial scholar in the whole of the U.S.A. that is equally capable?
    =================

    Capable under what circumstances? After how much on the job training? Leaving how many new people to fill their current job?

    Geithner’s tax foul up was very mild considering the weaknesses that almost everyone else has. At worst he was stingy on a small percent of his tax. At best he was misinformed by two accountants.

    We could go further and fare worse, and some people are losing their jobs and homes this month.

  81. New Mex said:
    The discussion that whatever problems Tim Geithner has will be ignored because he is a Clinton supporter and his is a wiz at the Finance stuff.
    ========================

    I certainly hope so!

  82. Thats My President Hillary Clinton….one more election where I voted for the winner of the popular vote only to be knocked to the curb by a con-artist.

    Right is Right and Geithner should not be approved but knowing Obama he will get him pushed threw.

    Obama cant be trusted.

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