Stately Hillary Clinton

Update: The two full hearing sessions may be viewed at C-SPAN. The morning session is HERE. The afternoon session is HERE.
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Hillary Clinton is testifying at a hearing before the Committee on Foreign Relations of the U.S. Senate. Hillary Clinton’s testimony as nominee for Secretary of State may be viewed on-line at C-Span [HERE]. The hearing is scheduled to last for one day. A vote by the Committee is scheduled for Thursday.

Thus far Hillary is her typical wonderful self. In a just world , it is Hillary that would ask the questions for the Senators to answer. Unlike Obama, Kerry and Dodd Hillary Clinton is more than qualified to do all their jobs so we are sure she will perform admirably, again.

In her opening statement Hillary Clinton vowed to employ “smart power” which she defines as a mix of diplomacy and defense. Hillary Clinton also promised to strengthen U. S. alliances.

Hillary Clinton is already on the job. Hillary Clinton is putting together a strong team to guide the United States through a dangerous world. Barack Obama is out of his league but Hillary is in clover. Hopefully Barack will not sabotage Hillary as has happened in earlier administrations when the White House and the State Department feuded.

Clinton’s team includes many veterans of the White House and State Department when Bill Clinton was president. James Steinberg and Jacob Lew, both veterans of the Clinton administration, are being nominated to the two posts of deputy secretary of state, Steinberg for policy and Lew for management and budget issues.

Clinton also plans to name former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke, known for his sharp bureaucratic elbows, as a special envoy to oversee policy toward Afghanistan and Pakistan. Former Middle East peace envoy Dennis Ross is expected to oversee diplomacy in the Arab-Israeli conflict and to deal with Iran. Daniel Kurtzer, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel and Egypt, is a leading candidate to be assistant secretary of state for the Near East.

Wendy Sherman, who was a top aide to Clinton’s second secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, is rumored for a job overseeing North Korea policy.

We do hope Hillary is thoroughly questioned about Barack Obama’s “naive” views and statements on foreign policy. The Senate should explore fully how unqualified Barack Obama is to be president. Hillary of course is supremely qualified. It is Hillary we trust to answer the 3:00 a.m. emergency call[s] when it comes.

Hillary should make it clear that Obama will not interfere with his harebrained schemes and plots in foreign policy. Hillary Clinton should make it clear that Obama will be too busy making a mess in the U.S. to get in her way.

Hillary should be questioned and assure us that Susan Rice at the United Nations will not shoot her mouth off without direction from the State Department and Hillary Clinton.

John Kerry, who wanted to be Secretary of State, should disclose any resentments towards Hillary Clinton and his own financial entanglements before questioning Hillary. Kerry should explain what he meant when he said the following:

In an interview, Kerry said it is not his goal to hold the Obama administration’s feet to the fire. “On the other hand, I don’t work for them,” Kerry said. “The committee is an independent branch . . . and where necessary, we’re obviously going to push and cajole and prod and try to hold accountable. But we’ll do it in a way that I hope is entirely constructive and in partnership wherever possible.”

Unlike Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden continue to work and do not flick off responsibility. Even as she works to prepare to be Secretary of State Hillary Clinton continues to work as a powerful and intelligent and productive Senator.

Two bills promoting equal pay for women could end up being the final legislative achievement for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton while she awaits confirmation as secretary of state.

Clinton is reintroducing the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Paycheck Fairness Act, both of which failed to pass the Senate in the last Congress, spokesman Philippe Reines said. [snip]

With a larger Democratic majority in the Senate this year, both bills could pass next week with Clinton casting her final – or almost final – votes as a senator.

The Senate also may pass health-care legislation to expand coverage under the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which would give Clinton a chance to vote on another of her pet causes as her last hurrah as a lawmaker. That bill, which was vetoed by President George W. Bush, would extend government-financed health-care services to 4 million low-income children who are not covered now.

Hillary Clinton has and will do America proud.

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  1. Admin!
    I am LMAO!
    How true.
    “Hillary Clinton should make it clear that Obama will be too busy making a mess in the U.S. to get in her way,” and “Hillary should be questioned and assure us that Susan Rice at the United Nations will not shoot her mouth off without direction from the State Department and Hillary Clinton.”

    Can ANYONE honestly imagine BO holding up to this scrutiny?

  2. Slightly off topic but oh how f***ing sweet it is to see the sycophantic media awaking to the world according to BO.
    Sun-Times: Journalists Being Shut Out by Obama
    According to Sun-Times columnist and long-time Chicago journalist, Carol Marin, journalists at Barack Obama news conferences have come to realize that Obama has pre-picked those journalists whom he will allow to ask him questions at the conference and many of them now “don’t even bother raising” their hands to be called upon.
    One wonders why journalists are allowing this corralling of the press? Would they have allowed George W. Bush to pre-pick journalists like that? Would they meekly sit by and allow themselves to be systematically ignored, their freedom to ask questions silenced by any Republican? Would journalists so eagerly vie with one another for the favor of Bush like they are Obama’s?
    For her part, it seems that Carol Marin is starting to wonder at the “bizarro world” that is being invented by the pliant and smitten Obama loving press corps.
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    The press corps, most of us, don’t even bother raising our hands any more to ask questions because Obama always has before him a list of correspondents who’ve been advised they will be called upon that day.
    Will the rest of the press retake their manhood and again become the tough guys they have always claimed to be or are they going to stay so smitten by Obama and their love for The One that they will allow themselves to continue being forced into a subservient role?
    One has a sinking suspicion that the press is allowing itself to become Obama’s lapdog extraordinaire.

  3. I have been watching Hillary and repeat what I posted at the end of the last topic.
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    What an amazing performance!

    Sen. Murkowski asks Hillary about Arctic problems and she rattles off names and dates and talks about cruise ships now going to Point Barrow or someplace, “the northernmost point in America”.

    She talked to each senator about their pet interests and was able to recite their records and legislation on relevant issues. This lady does her homework.

    North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Darfur, Russia, Serbia energy, nuclear proliferation, women’s rights, AIDS, violence against women, Helsinki accords, and Latin America are just some of the topics she talked about with specificity — names, dates, history of, and her plans.

    Nobody tripped her up, and she never once said, “I’ll look into that and let you know”. She even knew about a report issued last Friday. I can only say one thing about her testimony:

    WOW!

  4. I was watching C-Span before I had to leave for work. HRC is amazing, and it is obvious that the committee members have a lot of respect and regard for her. She astounds me, everytime I hear her speak. Her grasp and knowledge of complex situations is breathtaking. I think she will be a powerful force for women, in her position of SOS. While I was watching and listening to her, I was struck, once again, that she should be president-elect, not the imposter.

  5. From New York Times:

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/live-blog-clintons-confirmation-hearing/?hp

    A Gender Mission | 11:43 a.m. Senator Boxer displays photographs of women who were burned in acid attacks, punished for divorce or other matters and Senator Clinton responds emphatically.

    It is her hope, she promises, to persuade more governments “that we cannot have a free, prosperous, peaceful progressive world if women are treated in such a discriminatory and violent way.” In addition to the attacks on Pakistani women outlined by Senator Boxer, Mrs. Clinton cites the attacks on young school girls by Taliban sympathizers.

    “They want to maintain an attitude,” she charged, “that keeps women unhealthy, unfed, uneducated, and this is something that results all too often in violence against these young women.”

    “This is not culture, this is not custom, this is criminal,” she said.

    “Speaking broadly and promising that she would place an emphasis on areas like the Office on Human Trafficking and the Women’s Office, she said: I want to pledge to you that as Secretary of State, I view these issues as central to our foreign policy not as adjunct or in any way lesser. …”

  6. Another great day not only for Hillary, but for woman across the world. Hillary well understands what men have done to woman, both strong and weak, and will be a advocate in the tradition of Eleanor Roosevelt. As a male, I could not be prouder…..

  7. admin Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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    Before I left home, I heard Boxer speak, and saw those terrible pictures. I had tears in my eyes, after I listend to Senator Clinton’s response. She will be a positive force for women, throughout the world. I liked the part, when Boxer was talking about, how if the conditions of women were to improve throughout the world, how much better off the world would be. I am paraphrasing, but that was gist of it. Humanity would be further evolved, if women were not abused, kept uneducated, unhealthy, and unfed. Imagine, how much better the world would be, if the negative energy directed towards women, as a method of control, was directed towards improving the world, in which we live. How much further ahead we would all be. Lastly, improving the lives of women in foreign countries is a lofty goal, but there is so much sexism and misogyny right here in the U.S., that I think we have a ton of work to do, here in the U.S. Pregnant women are the most highly abused group in the U.S.

  8. Thank you Admin! Excellent Post!

    And on another note, Caroline’s approval rating seems to be drop…drop…dropping:

    January 6, 2009, 12:59 PM

    New Yorkers Sour On Caroline Kennedy:

    Posted by Brian Montopoli|

    Here’s some bad news for Caroline Kennedy, who hopes to be appointed to Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat: A Public Policy Polling poll reported by WCBS finds that New Yorkers would rather see Governor David Patterson appoint Andrew Cuomo to the seat.

    And the margin is wide: Fifty-eight percent prefer Cuomo in the seat, while just 27 percent want Kennedy.

    A month ago, Kennedy led Cuomo by 20 percentage points among Democratic voters. Now she trails by that margin among Democrats.

    In related news, Kennedy and at least five other contenders for the Senate seat have been asked to answer a 28-page questionnaire full of questions “about their finances, job history and any criminal record,” according to the New York Times.

    Because the questionnaires ask for private information – according to the New York Post, they include questions about the applicants’ credit histories, medical information and personal debts – they will not be made public.

    Kennedy has been criticized for not answering questions about her beliefs and finances. Her spokesman told the Times, “Caroline has consistently said that she will file any financial disclosure that the governor requests of her.”

    Link to follow:

  9. Wow : What a truly amazing expected and stellar performance by Hillary Rodham Clinton.She is America’s Leading Lady.A Star is Born.

    Obama who?
    Condoleezza who?

    Our new State Department will be in safe hands and welcomed
    around the world as they see a “Rising Star” in the troubled skies.

    By ABM90 I say to MSM “Shut up and sit down”your ship of fools
    is sinking.Good riddance.

  10. LEFTOVERS? NO, IT’S REFRIED!!

    In my posting yesterday, commenting on the NY Times front page article entitled, “Obama Signals His Reluctance to Look Into Bush Policies”, I ran out of steam in analyzing the second half. But in re-reading the article last night to my wife, I saw it was fertile with examples of Obama complicity to be O’bush (he called JM “McBush”).

    So let’s revisit this (my comments preceded w/ $$$):

    Lawyers who represented Bush administration officials over the years expressed little surprise that Mr. Obama’s legal and national security team had lost whatever appetite it might have had for delving into alleged misdeeds of the Bush years.

    $$$ They know he’s a sellout who only cares about his “place in history”, as the First Black Person Elected President in the US. How he got, the promises made, the people used, are all behind him.

    “A new president doesn’t want to look vengeful,” said a former Bush White House lawyer, Bradford A. Berenson, who was a Harvard law classmate of Mr. Obama and has represented administration figures as a private lawyer, “and the last thing a new administration wants to do is spend its time and energy rehashing the perceived sins of the old one.

    $$$ “rehashing perceived sins”….What about illegal activities??? Carried out by underlings, and “not ordered” by their superiors (just like the Godfather never has to tell any of his henchman that “so-and-so needs to be killed”, he’d just say “make sure this matter is taken care of”)! It’s not “vengeful” to investigate crimes. And these investigations were already under way.

    “No matter how much the Obama administration’s most extreme supporters may be screaming for blood, the president himself doesn’t seem to share that bloodlust.”

    $$$ His supporters cared about justice, about not torturing, about closing Guantanamo, etc. They voted for him to take up those causes, not to take up residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. But he has no interest in pursuing justice, or difficult objectives. “I already made history. Yay Me.”

    Moreover, any effort to conduct a wider re-examination would almost certainly provoke a backlash at the country’s intelligence agencies.

    $$$ How can we fix these agencies if the bad actors aren’t routed out??? The good eggs (whistleblowers) are routinely nudged out from the nest. Like the female commander, Janis…?, who was made to be the fall guy (fall girl?).

    Mark Lowenthal, who was the assistant director for analysis and production at the C.I.A. from 2002 to 2005, said if agents were criminally investigated for doing something that top Bush administration officials asked them to do and that they were assured was legal, intelligence officers would be less willing to take risks to protect the country.

    $$$ Excuse-Making 101. Make some grand overstatement. “If you do this, the whole dang thing collapses”. No, we’re talking about getting rid of criminals. There are many intelligence peole who would prefer to play “by the book”.

    “There are just huge costs to the day-to-day operation of intelligence,” Mr. Lowenthal, now the president of the Intelligence and Security Academy, said of a potential investigation. He added that he saw no benefit to such an effort because, he said, the public was not clamoring for it.

    $$$ “the public is not clamoring for it…”. Hmmm. Well, over 50% of the voters voted for Ofraud, and we should assume many of them wanted a reversal of a wide range of Bush policies. And even if not one single person cried for an investigation, we have an obligation to respect the rule of law. If no one is around, and I can get away with killing someone, that doesn’t exonerate me.

    But it may be difficult for Mr. Obama to resist the pressure for a fuller public accounting, and lawmakers appear ready to proceed even without his support.

    The House Judiciary Committee chairman, Representative John Conyers Jr., Democrat of Michigan, has already introduced a measure to create a commission to investigate Mr. Bush’s detention, interrogation and rendition policies. Mr. Conyers’s bill would establish a bipartisan nine-member commission with subpoena power and a mandate “to investigate the broad range of policies” undertaken with claims that Mr. Bush’s wartime powers as commander in chief trumped laws and treaties.

    $$$ Conyers now wants rules to mean something. He didn’t care about primary voters in his own state, or how the RBC stole Hillary’s votes, thereby disenfranchising Michiganders. I guess he has Selective Justice Syndrome.

    The measure by Mr. Conyers is not the only sign that Congress may force the issue. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, the second-ranking Democrat on the intelligence committee, said such a commission might not be necessary because the panel itself would press the administration to declassify as much information about C.I.A. prisons as possible.

    “With regard to the C.I.A. interrogation program,” Mr. Wyden said in an interview, “if you want to make a break with the flawed policies of the past, as the president-elect has said he wishes to do, you have got to come clean about what happened over the past eight years, and that is why I’m going to push very hard to declassify these documents.”

    $$$ Glad someone is going to try to force Ofraud’s hand.

    Mr. Obama’s legal team could also be forced to react to litigation pending before federal courts. For example, the Bush administration has invoked the state-secrets privilege to avoid disclosing information about its surveillance program being sought in a civil lawsuit. The Obama legal team will have to decide how to handle that case.

    $$$ Bush to Cheney: “Boy, arms are getting tired holding up this wall against all those people who want to get at our stash of super-duper secrets on all the whack stuff we’ve been doing. Hey, it’s that Obama feller. Let’s get him to hold up this wall for us so we can leave.”
    $$$ Cheney: “That’s why we arranged for some favors to have him put in, just like we did for you in 2000. You don’t think we’d trust McCain on that, did you?”
    $$$ Obama: “Okay, I’m here to help hold up the wall. I can start just as soon as I finish my cigarette break”.

    In a related area, Mr. Conyers has indicated that he intends to keep pressing a House Judiciary Committee investigation into the Bush administration’s firings of nine United States attorneys and other accusations of political favoritism in hiring at the Justice Department.

    $$$ and in another related area, Conyers should be pressed for what favors he was granted for throwing his own Michiganders under the Primary Bus.

    The Bush administration has blocked subpoenas from Congress for documents and testimony by White House officials in that case, citing executive privilege. Last week, Mr. Conyers reissued the subpoenas to Mr. Bush’s chief of staff, Joshua B. Bolten, and his former White House counsel, Harriet E. Miers, in the name of the new Congress, ensuring that a lawsuit over the dispute will stay alive into the Obama presidency.

    Mr. Obama is facing even more intense pressure from liberal, human-rights and civil-liberties groups to allow some kind of investigation into the Bush administration’s terrorism policies.

    $$$ Good luck. He won’t be showing you any love until mid 2012 when he’ll be facing re-election, and a vengeful public.

    Chris Anders, senior legislative counsel at the American Civil Liberties Union, said it would be a simple matter to start such an inquiry because the Justice Department’s special prosecutor, John H. Durham, is already investigating whether the C.I.A. acted illegally when it destroyed videotapes of its harsh interrogations. Mr. Anders said Mr. Durham’s mandate could be expanded to look into whether the interrogations depicted on the tapes were illegal.

    $$$ Simple? Sure. But will it piss off the people who installed him? You betcha.

    Some groups are focused on prosecution. Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, said prosecution efforts were justified, even if they did not lead to convictions, as a way to deter future officials from undertaking a similar “assault on the law itself.”

    $$$ Great point, Mr. Ratner. Are you related to William Shatner?

    Other groups want fuller public disclosure. They favor a commission that would answer lingering questions about exactly what happened — like disclosing how many Americans were wiretapped without warrants and making a detailed accounting of what interrogators did to each detainee and the real value of the information they obtained through the enhanced tactics.

    $$$ Yes, this is what Obots want. Don’t you want to make your little Obotlings happy, Mr. PEBO??

    “One of the things that is going to have to happen is an examination and, to the extent possible, a public airing of the validity of the claims that these policies enhanced our security,” said Elisa Massimino, the executive director of Human Rights First. “Because there is a lot of reason to think that calculus hasn’t been accurate.”

    $$$ Yes, “not accurate” could better be translated to mean, “Not only did torture and illegal wiretapping NOT help, it made things worse: loss of credibility with other countries, who now see us as hypocrites when we tell them to abide by international agreements, who may torture our soldiers…”

  11. All Hillary supporters, men and especially women are proud of her today! This will be a great time for Hillary, as she restores our reputation and support around the world. It will be wonderful watching her do it.

  12. BO burned in effigy in Tehran at a demonstration supporting Gaza outside the Swiss EMbassy.

    Well, off to a great start. But, any American leader would probably burn in effigy in Tehran.

  13. birdgal, the Obots promised that this was the main reason to elect him, because his skin color would ensure that the world would greet him as a Liberator, and throw flowers at this feet…

    Why does that sound familiar?

  14. I am informed that if we want to topple the administration in Iran, all we would have to do is cut off the gasoline supply. They have lots of oil but no gasoline because they stopped building refineries since the shaw as deposed, concentrated their resources on nuclear capabiliites. Since then they have been purchasing gas from neigboring states (US allies) who have the refining capacity and India (for a few more months). The government subsidizes it to keep the domestic populaion tranquil. If the supply were cut out they would have to build refineries and that would take years. It would bring their economy to a halt. The current government would go down. That is an important point of leverage. Also they will have an election this spring and a more moderate leader is likely to take over,

  15. jbstonesfan Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
    Bob Casey has no business being a senator.
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    Another family dynasty benefactor.

  16. Agreed…he conceded he will vote for her either way. These tools are just trying to minimally please the righties the only way they can…She is flying through this and will be SOS…she should have been POTUS as many will realize after yet, another brilliant performance today. I am sure BO is thinking the same thing..”why did they vote for me when she is so much smarter”???

  17. This guy from Wyoming is OK….you can tell Hillary was well respected in the senate…Sadly, many of her own (dems) were far less respectful(see Kennedy).

  18. I wonder if the overfed chunk behind her right shoulder know how many of us are going “Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww”

    It’s not the chunkiness so much as the lazy slouchy attitude he exudes.

    He needs a treadmill in his office.

  19. I think Lugar respects Hillary and is only doing his job…Vitter should not be in the Senate, he’s an AH!(or dipshit, lol)….and Kerry is SO full of himself, listen to him drone on and on and on, trying to make himself look important. Hillary shows everytime she speaks that she’s head and shoulders above both Kerry and BO, in knowledge, intelligence, and diplomacy… trying to stroke their very big egos! She’s good, very very good!

  20. To the good soul who asked if we could imagine BO able to survive this kind of examination:

    Nope…He would have said hours ago, “aw come on guys…gotta go…I’ve already answered like eight questions for you”

  21. More Obama Drama.

    Geithner is in trouble.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-13-geither-questioned_N.htm

    Treasury Secretary-designee Timothy Geithner is meeting with senators to discuss why he failed to pay personal taxes and check the immigration status of a housekeeper.

    An official with President-elect Barack Obama’s transition office says Geithner answered senators’ questions during a meeting he requested Tuesday. The person requested anonymity because the source is not authorized to speak publicly on Geithner’s situation.

  22. wbboei, What did you think of Hillary’s opening act?
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    Paula: I thought it was excellent.

  23. Geithner will oversee the IRS as Treasury Secretary.

    More on Geithner and the Obama vetting failure:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123187503629378119.html

    Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions about a housekeeper who worked briefly for Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner without proper immigration papers, and multiple years when Mr. Geithner didn’t pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.

    Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D., Mont.) has summoned committee members to his office this afternoon to air the matter ahead of any public confirmation hearing.

    According to people familiar with the matter, Mr. Geithner employed a housekeeper whose immigration papers expired during her tenure with Mr. Geithner, currently president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The woman went on to get a green card to work legally in the country and federal immigration authorities didn’t press charges against her, these people said.

    The second issue involved taxes due while Mr. Geithner worked for the International Monetary Fund between 2001 and 2004. As an employee, Mr. Geithner was technically considered self-employed and was required to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself as both an employer and an employee.

    He apparently failed to do so, resulting in Internal Revenue Service audits his last two years at the IMF. As soon as the IRS brought the issue to his attention, he paid the taxes with interest, these people said.

  24. To the good soul who asked if we could imagine BO being able to survive this kind of examination—–

    Nope…He would have said hours ago, “aw come on guys…gotta go…I’ve already answered like eight questions for you”

  25. jbstonesfan Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    John Kerry=ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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  26. Emjay Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    To the good soul who asked if we could imagine BO being able to survive this kind of examination—–

    Nope…He would have said hours ago, “aw come on guys…gotta go…I’ve already answered like eight questions for you”

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    So true. But you forgot the most important part:

    “Hey Guys, Can’t I just eat my waffle?”

  27. Great day for us Hillfans….she was , as we knew she would be, brilliant. I am not as depressed after seeing what a great SOS she will be despite BO…he will need her every step of the way.

  28. jstonesfan: absolutely right. The support was strong. I hope they can talk Vitter into voting in favor so it is 100%.

    Isnt it amazing how in this life people who live in glass houses and should not throw stones invariably do.

    If I were Lugar I would be embarrassed, and asking myself why I did not sit on that moron Vitter before the hearing. I believe he is animated by the ghost of robert livingston. But I could be wrong.

  29. admin Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
    Geithner will oversee the IRS as Treasury Secretary.

    More on Geithner and the Obama vetting failure:
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    More Failure to vet, this by “The Hot Damnedest Smooooothest, Fastest Transition Team in World History by the Most Brilliant Effective Management Tactician in US History”?? Here’s a NY Times Business Section piece from Monday 1/12 (I’ll provide link) about the next Pocket Liner that Obama wants surrounding him:

    S.E.C. Choice Is Sued Over a Merger of Regulators
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    By STEPHEN LABATON
    Published: January 11, 2009

    WASHINGTON — Mary L. Schapiro, who appears this week at a confirmation hearing on her selection to head the Securities and Exchange Commission, has been accused in two lawsuits of making misleading statements to quickly complete a merger of regulatory organizations after which she received a 57 percent raise in her pay

    The merger involved the regulatory units of the New York Stock Exchange and the NASD two years ago. Ms. Schapiro was then head of the NASD, and she spent months traveling the country to persuade its 5,100 members to support it. The merger created a new self-regulatory organization, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, or Finra, where Ms. Schapiro is the chief executive. The Securities and Exchange Commission relies on Finra to police Wall Street.

    Among the misstatements that she is accused of making is that the Internal Revenue Service had prohibited the NASD from paying each member more than $35,000 as part of the merger deal. Although an NASD proxy statement issued while the deal was pending said that the I.R.S. would not permit the organization to give more compensation to members, the I.R.S. did not actually issue a ruling on the matter until March 2007, long after the deal closed and three months after the members voted to approve it.

    Lawyers representing Ms. Schapiro, Finra and other senior executives have fought vigorously to keep the I.R.S. ruling — and court references to details of that ruling — under seal. Last January, a federal judge in New York denied a request by The New York Times to unseal the ruling and other documents in the case.

    Ms. Schapiro’s lawyer has denied the lawsuits’ allegations and, in a recent interview said that the second suit, filed shortly after her selection, is an opportunistic effort to pressure the defendants to settle. The first, dismissed by a federal district judge in New York, is on appeal.

    At the S.E.C., Ms. Schapiro would be leading a government regulator that has been battered by setbacks, including its failure to uncover the apparent long-running fraud at Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities. A recent report by the S.E.C.’s inspector general said the agency had failed to adequately police the markets and regulate Wall Street’s largest investment banks. Congressional critics have said the S.E.C.’s shortcomings contributed to the financial crisis.

    The strongest proponents of the merger that created Finra were the more than 200 firms that were members of both the NASD and the New York Stock Exchange. The merger significantly lowered their regulatory expenses, but many of the smaller members were concerned about what benefits they might receive from it.

    In an effort to get enough votes from the smaller firms, NASD offered each member $35,000, for a total of about $178 million, and a smaller commitment to reduce future assessments.

    Executives said that amount was derived from a calculation of efficiencies from merging the organizations. NASD listed its total outstanding equity in an annual report of more than $1.6 billion. NASD officials, including Ms. Schapiro, said then that the organization could not make a greater payment because the I.R.S. had opposed it because the NASD is nonprofit.

    The lawsuits challenge that assertion, saying that evidence that remains sealed undermines the NASD’s description of the I.R.S. ruling. Also sealed is an independent fairness opinion on the merger by the investment bank Houlihan Lokey Howard and Zukin Financial Advisors.

    “Our cases raise questions about the transparency, truthfulness and candor of the NASD and its leadership in a major financial transaction with its own members,” said Jonathan W. Cuneo, the lead lawyer in both cases for the member firms. “It’s certainly ironic that the case involves the NASD, which is charged with policing those values in others.”

    Defense lawyers said in court papers and an interview that no material misrepresentations were made. They assert that the top executives of the organization, as regulators, are entitled to absolute immunity from lawsuits. They say that the members of the NASD were not entitled to greater compensation because they do not have the same rights as shareholders of a corporation.

    “These lawsuits are meritless, and the second suit is just a dressed-up version of the first one that was rejected by a federal judge,” said F. Joseph Warin, a lawyer representing Finra and Ms. Schapiro. “The lawyers are the same, and the arguments are virtually identical. The second suit was filed days after Ms. Schapiro was nominated to become chairman of the S.E.C. It looks to me like a desperate effort to leverage Mary’s nomination to squeeze money out of Finra before her confirmation vote — a last-second Hail Mary pass.”

    Mr. Cuneo said that the second lawsuit was in the works long before the announcement of Ms. Schapiro’s appointment and that its filing had nothing to do with her selection.

    Herb Perone, a spokesman at Finra, said that following the customary practice of presidential appointees, Ms. Schapiro would not comment about the case while her confirmation proceedings were pending. The Senate banking committee is to consider her appointment on Thursday.

    Lawyers involved in the proceeding say they have not been asked about the lawsuits by either the Obama transition team or the Senate banking committee.

    An official at the Obama transition said that the lawsuit had been examined during the vetting process and that Ms. Schapiro would not have been selected if it were seen as a problem.

    Kate Szostak, a spokeswoman for the Senate banking committee, said it would study Ms. Schapiro’s record as a regulator, including Finra’s supervision of the Madoff firm and her role in the merger of the NASD and the New York Stock Exchange. Ms. Schapiro has extensive regulatory experience. She served for six years as a commissioner at the S.E.C. before becoming chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in 1994. She arrived at the NASD in 1996 to lead its regulatory arm.

    Both suits were filed as class actions on behalf of most members of Finra. The first was filed by Standard Investment Chartered. Federal District Judge Shirley Wohl Kram of New York dismissed that suit a year later without addressing the underlying allegations. The dismissal has been appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in New York.

    A second lawsuit by Benchmark Financial Services, was filed three weeks ago in federal district court in New York. Benchmark was founded by Edward A. H. Siedle, a former lawyer at the S.E.C. who investigates pension fraud and other financial abuses. Mr. Siedle has been a plaintiff against other companies over the years and sued the NASD in 2002 after it blocked him from publishing a book about disciplinary proceedings against member firms.

    “This case is about a corporate transaction effectuated by deception,” the complaint in the latest case said. “The officer defendants stood to gain substantially by the transaction, in terms of enormously higher compensation and benefits, vastly elevated prestige and powers resulting from the virtual monopoly regulatory authority created by the transaction, and the higher degree of control over the board of the consolidated entity.”

    After the merger, Ms. Schapiro’s total compensation rose to more than $3.1 million, from almost $2 million. The pay package, while not outsize by Wall Street standards, is large for a nonprofit organization. Mr. Perone, the Finra spokesman, said the raise was the result of Ms. Schapiro’s promotion to a higher job. He said her predecessor had received about $6 million in compensation. Other top executives at the new entity received pay increases of around 20 percent after the merger.

  30. Emjay,

    That would be moi. 😀

    ‘To the good soul who asked if we could imagine BO able to survive this kind of examination:

    Nope…He would have said hours ago, “aw come on guys…gotta go…I’ve already answered like eight questions for you”

  31. Basil, yes she was. I wouldn’t expect anything else.

    Look at this lovely picture:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/senate-confirmation-hearing-wrap-up/#comment-272045

  32. Clinton Seeks Mix of Diplomacy, Defense Article
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    WASHINGTON — Sen. Hillary Clinton called for the use of “smart power” in her bid to become the next secretary of state, arguing Tuesday that the U.S. should engage hostile powers such as Iran and Syria and pursue partnerships with China and Russia.

    “I believe that American leadership has been wanting, but is still wanted,” Sen. Clinton said in remarks at her confirmation hearing in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday.

    With daughter Chelsea in attendance, Sen. Clinton appeared to sail smoothly through her hearing before the Senate panel, despite concerns among some lawmakers that the global fund-raising of her husband, former President Bill Clinton, could pose ethical conflicts for her as secretary of state.

    During the hearing, Sen. Clinton, 61 years old, emphasized areas of foreign policy in which she and President-elect Barack Obama think alike, including their conviction that in order to make gains abroad the U.S. needs to strengthen its domestic economy.

    Like Mr. Obama, Sen. Clinton has said the U.S. should make a more focused commitment to stabilizing Afghanistan and pushing Pakistan to eliminate the havens al Qaeda terrorists have found on its territory. Both favor closing the prison for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and support the continued expansion of the Army and the Marine Corps, and they share the view that the Bush administration undervalued international diplomacy.

    Sen. Clinton said military action — a hallmark of the Bush administration — “will sometimes be necessary,” but that the administration “will rely on it to protect our people and our interests when and where needed, as a last resort.”

    The New York senator called for the use of “smart power,” saying the U.S. “cannot solve every problem,” and “we certainly don’t face the best of circumstances today, with our economy faltering and our budget deficits growing.”

    She assured the committee that if confirmed, the State Department “will be firing on all cylinders” — applying pressure when needed and looking for opportunities to advancing U.S. interests.

    The senator credited Secretary of Defense Robert Gates with stimulating debate about the role of diplomacy and other civilian institutions’ role in fighting the global war on terror, endorsing his call for providing the State Department with more resources and a bigger budget.

    While offering no specific new peace proposal, Sen. Clinton spoke confidently of Mr. Obama’s intentions to renew American leadership in the world and to strengthen U.S. diplomacy.

    “As intractable as the Middle East’s problems may seem and many presidents, including my husband, have spent years trying to help work out a resolution, we cannot give up on peace,” she said.

    Pointing to recent bloodshed in Gaza, Sen. Clinton called for a peace agreement “that brings real security to Israel; normal and positive relations with its neighbors; and independence, economic progress, and security to the Palestinians in their own state.”

    She said the new administration would pursue a broader approach to the problem of Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Clinton Aims to Boost State Dept. CloutClinton testimony as prepared for deliveryFull text of Clinton’s responses to Lugar’s questions: Foreign affairs management issues

    Sen. Clinton called China “a critically important actor in a changing global landscape,” but warned that “much of what we will do depends on the choices China makes about its future at home and abroad.”

    Sen. Clinton said she and Mr. Obama “seek a future of cooperative engagement with the Russian government on matters of strategic importance, while standing up strongly for American values and international norms.”

    On climate change, Sen. Clinton pointed to the upcoming U.N. Copenhagen Climate Conference as an opportunity to “lead abroad through participation.”

    “We can lead at home,” Sen. Clinton said, “by pursuing an energy policy that reduces our carbon emissions while reducing our dependence on foreign oil and gas — which will benefit the fight against climate change and enhance our economy and security.”

    The selection of Sen. Clinton, which has prompted bipartisan praise in Congress, saw some notes of caution from a senior member of the Foreign Relations panel.

    Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, the top Republican on the panel, called attention to former President Bill Clinton’s fund-raising activities as head of the Clinton Foundation. Recent disclosures show President Clinton raised money from several foreign governments.

    “The core of the problem is that foreign governments and entities may perceive the Clinton Foundation as a means to gain favor with the Secretary of State,” Sen. Lugar said.

    Sen. Lugar called for a number of transparency measures for the Sen. Clinton Foundation, saying “if there is the slightest doubt about the appearance that a donation might create, the foundation should not take it.”

    Still, Sen. Lugar called Sen. Clinton a “big-leaguer” who is “fully prepared to engage the world on a myriad of issues that urgently require attention.”

    Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry, who was considered a top contender for the secretary of state nomination, also offered praise for Sen. Clinton, saying “her presence overseas will send a strong signal that America is back.”

    Sen. Clinton pledged close cooperation with Congress, saying in her statement that “for me, consultation is not a catchword. It is a commitment.”

  33. Does race card trump gender card?

    How come Roland Burris has had such an easy time getting to the U.S. Senate while Caroline Kennedy has had such a hard time?

    Could it be that the race card trumps the gender card in U.S. politics?

    Well, yes. It could be.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17399.html

    Does race card trump gender card? Yes, of course. Caroline Kennedy thinks so. she endorsed an inexperienced black man instead of an experienced women in democratic primary.

  34. Admin: the reason the Obama transition team was so slow is because they were so . . . . . . thorough . . . . . except for Richardson, Shapiro, Geithner and others.

    Do you remember all that big media talk about the most talented transition team in history and the flawless transition and no drama obama. Seldom right but never in doubt.

  35. wbboei Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
    Seems like Caroline Kennedy was on that fabulous transition team– wasn’t she?
    $$$$$

    CK was one of three on the Veep selection committee, shortly before Denver as I recall.

  36. Vitter earned himself a seat on FOX next to Dickie Morris the toe muncher.They both operate at different levels of self satisfaction.

    Hillary was and is the most qualified person to lead this country and the world to peace and prosperity.After her brilliant performance today before the good old boys there is a sense of relief that at last we have a person that can step in and take over when Obama fails and falls from his perch as the Turtle on the fence post.

    By ABM90 I feel refreshed inspired and confident I will yet see her in the roll of “The president of These United States”

  37. wbboei Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
    … on that fabulous transition team….?
    &&&&&

    That fabulous transition team that was by MSM’s account:

    * the fastest (they gave Obama extra credit for resigning in World Record time)
    * the most efficient
    * the most ethical
    * the most “transparent”

    Judas had to back out. Who knows how many others will go down in shit flames.

    BTW, if Hillary was the President-elect, how much crap would be hurled at her? for:

    * poorly vetted candidates
    * failure to provide transparency: no birth certificate? financial records? school records?
    * breaking even one campaign promise (as compared to Obama’s A-Z romp of broken promises)

    Yeah, there’d be no end to the criticism.

  38. WASHINGTON (AP) – President-elect Barack Obama’s choice to run the Treasury Department and lead the economic rescue effort disclosed to senators Tuesday that he failed to pay $34,000 in taxes from 2001 to 2004, a last-minute complication in an otherwise smooth path to confirmation.
    …………………………………………………….

    Oh funnier and funier, so the guy to head the treasury doesnt believe in paying tax, i guess he was a fan of Leona Helmsley.

    apnews.myway.com/article/20090113/D95MGFTO1.html

  39. In the course of her testimony, Clinton praised Sen. Lugar, Laura Bush, Sec. Gates and Obama’s mother.

    Each time she had specific praiseworthy activities in mind, like Laura Bush’s working hard on violence against women. Credit where credit is due. Not all virtue resides on one side as we discovered this last year.

    The most amazing thing I heard was the story about Obama’s mother and her wok for women’s micro loans. With all the obamabot media, why didnt they make this known?

    And kudos to Bob Menendez who returned to the committee to point out that the Clinton Global Initiative has done enormous good for millions and millions of prople all over the world. Sen. Vitter’s attempt to say that donations to that charity are a “perceived conflict of interest” is ludicrous. BTW, donors to the CGI have always been known.

  40. So its ok if you are a Obama nominee its ok to have a tax problem, however If he were a Republican Senator from Alaska, he would promptly be indicted, convicted, and sentenced.

    And if he were a plumber from Toledo, he’d be villified in the press and branded a deadbeat.

  41. jbstonesfan Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    Menendez(?) supporting Bill!!! I like this guy!!!!

    *******************************************************

    it is about damn time…makes me so angry when Vitter can sit there and use those examples he did to make Bill sound like a criminal, when in fact, Bill is out there helping untold millions of the neediest people and Vitter, that creep who hides behind his wife, has the nerve to grandstand and insinuate Bill is trading with terrorists…ugh!!!!!!!!!

    I am so sick of everyone constantly holding the Clintons to a higher standard and putting them under a microscope…more than everyone else involved…they are the most investigated and vetted people in modern politics…leave our Hill and Bill alone…

    it is about time some of the Dems chimed in and set the record straight with examples of the good the Clinton organization and name has accomplished….

    ****************************

    as for Hillary…she is simply the best…how proud are we and how lucky is the world in waiting…at the risk of repeating myself again…just love and admire that woman… go Hillary…she is head and shoulders above her interrogators and she does it with such grace…

  42. She, who should be President, is proving nationwide that she is the superior person, intellectually, morally and tempermentally amd Basil9 said and I concur.

  43. They are trying to make this “tax problem” an oversight for Geithner, an “oversight” is accidently leaving a receipt on your return or forgetting to drop the form in the post, an “oversight” is not paying taxes for 4 years on the trot and then also not checking the full employment status of your employees. If he can’t be assed to check a housekeepers papers he has no business being in charge of the largest economy in the world, for goodness sakes, its not rocket science.

    Maybe his next oversight would be to forget to pay the national debt. I mean what does it take to get a little competence. I guess the rules don’t apply if you make over a certain amount.

  44. http://www.gallup.com/poll/113740/Senate-Hearings-Begin-Hillary-Clintons-Image-Soars.aspx

    A new Gallup Poll finds 65% of Americans saying they have a favorable opinion of Hillary Clinton, the highest rating for her in almost 10 years.

    Clinton had not had a favorable rating above 60% since 1999, after having been consistently above that level during the Monica Lewinsky scandal that led to the impeachment but ultimate acquittal of husband Bill Clinton. That included Hillary Clinton’s all-time high 67% favorable rating immediately after the House of Representatives voted to impeach the president in December 1998.

    Since late 1999, Hillary Clinton’s favorable ratings have been around 50%, ranging from a low of 44% in March 2001 to a high of 58% in February 2007.

    The last measure in 2008, taken just before the Democratic National Convention last August and following months of a hotly contested Democratic nomination campaign with Barack Obama, was 54%. Since that time, her image has improved among most key demographic and political subgroups, but much more among women than men.

    Interestingly, she has made nearly equal gains among Republicans (+12 points), independents (+9), and Democrats (+13), though Democrats continue to view her much more positively than Republicans.

    Now President-elect Obama has tapped Clinton to be his secretary of state. Clinton’s confirmation begins Tuesday, and she is widely expected to be confirmed.

    Americans generally have a positive view of the kind of job she would do if confirmed — a majority say she will be an outstanding (26%) or above-average (30%) secretary of state. Only 14% give her a negative evaluation.

    Women are much more optimistic than men about how she will fare in her new job, with 66% of female respondents saying she will be an outstanding or above-average secretary of state, compared with 45% of men.

    While close to 8 in 10 Democrats believe Clinton will be an outstanding or above-average secretary of state, only 25% of Republicans agree. But only 26% of Republicans think she will not fare well, with the plurality of 48% expecting her to be “average.”

  45. One would think, someone who was qualified to be a Treasury Secretary, would be more careful with his finances. EWWWW………………. And this person is going to be in charge of our country’s finances.

  46. “While close to 8 in 10 Democrats believe Clinton will be an outstanding or above-average secretary of state, only 25% of Republicans agree. But only 26% of Republicans think she will not fare well, with the plurality of 48% expecting her to be “average.””

    There is nothing average about Senator Clinton.

  47. What happened to Lawrence O’Donnell? geesh…I really used to like him and ‘bump’ into him once in a while in Santa Monica…what gives? he always plays ‘devil’s advocate’ concerning Hillary…give it up already…

    …must be so he can continue to ‘appear’ on MSNBC…you know, the cable outlet that has designated this week in particular as ‘Senator Kerry Appreciation week”…what a bunch of dolts…obviously always trying to jab at Hillary and rain on her parade…they really are like a bunch of parrots on that network…

  48. I missed all but the beginning of the hearings, may try to catch them somewhere later tonight.

    Hillary Clinton we heart you. Godspeed. Our hearts will swell with pride with every positive step you make as our SOS [sos – signal for help when you are up to your a$$ in alligators as the Huckster will soon be].

  49. I really think the CDS naysayers are jealous of Senator Clintons talents, wisdom, intelligence, and other gifts. She outshines everyone. She is not perfect, and has made mistakes, but why some people want to crucify her, is way beyond me. She is the quinnessential role model.

  50. There is nothing average about Senator Clinton.

    YOu are so right birggal

    SO everyone better believe 68 percent and higher and believe you will be able to sleep at night..
    The woman is much smarter Intellectually beyond than anyone leading Our Country
    so the men picked up 45 percent good job Hillary more will support as your days as work for us around the world

    and all those boys on that committee need to retire and lugar and kerry praised her well …but 1971 1985 little to long let someone with new abd ideas to work these boys have the same views ass the 1960’sss..and lugar he needs cough drops or something.. i know she is friends with them but isnt it time to elect someone with Intellect and smarteness that hillary can compete with.She droppped them in the water…GO hillary GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. The GOP senators are bailing, Voinivich is off now and Hutchinson is said to be about to go seeking the Gov office in Texas.

  52. If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama. One caller said he opposed her for SOS because she was responsible for calling BO a terrorist and a Muslim.

    If they could forgive her for running for pres, her favorables would be about 80%.

  53. Greetings, Hillfriends! Great article, Admin! Too busy at work today to chat (but, I’m so glad to be employed). I didn drop in for a moment to listen our Hillary’s hearings….. she is so brilliant and graceful….. much more so than PEBO and his frat boys. I sleep better at night knowing she will be looking out for us in the wide world. Soon the world will be wondering why she isn’t 44.

  54. January 13th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    freckles Says:

    “If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama.”
    * * * * * * *
    Ummm, this woman will not soon forgive BO for running against Hillary.

  55. freckles Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama. One caller said he opposed her for SOS because she was responsible for calling BO a terrorist and a Muslim.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    What entitled and arrogant acting people. It was an election. Did they expect, everyone else to give up, and just let BO run? Never mind. The answer is yes. Frankly, I won’t forgive the fraud, cheating, sexism, and misogyny.

  56. Illinois Underground Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    January 13th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    freckles Says:

    “If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama.”
    * * * * * * *
    Ummm, this woman will not soon forgive BO for running against Hillary.

    i was gonna say the same thing .
    .neetabug is the best AA around Hillary LOL..and those obots they think all aa’s are in line with the Huckster..
    NOPE …NOT all of them..

  57. Sun-Times: Journalists Being Shut Out by Obama
    According to Sun-Times columnist and long-time Chicago journalist, Carol Marin, journalists at Barack Obama news conferences have come to realize that Obama has pre-picked those journalists whom he will allow to ask him questions at the conference and many of them now “don’t even bother raising” their hands to be called upon.

    I received this back from my cousin:

    Dear Cousin : I asked my newspaper reporter husband about this. You may remember he was in Wash. during two terms of Reagan and the first part of Clinton. He says the WH press secretary and the media have had an arrangement going back 40 years where the reporters are pre-picked. There is also a seating chart. No need to raise hands, it’s a done deal before they all go in. Hope this is helpful.

  58. moon LOL…back to the store to get OUR CHange lol!!!!!!!
    it is a shame
    Hillary will be OUR prsident after he messes up the United States even worse …
    He is a stealer, A BIG fraud and a BIG Liar!!!!he dont know sh@@

  59. yeah good idea, go into wal mart, take an doll with an Obama face stuck on, and ask for change as this ones defective and doesnt do what it said on the label.

  60. Finally got through this thread…

    Fantastic analogy, Admin. Thanks for keeping us informed. Was away most of the day and appreciate your link-up to the full hearing.

    From what I’ve seen of Hillary’s responses, the entire senate is floored at the breadth and scope of her expertise in everything and anything relevant to the office of SOS!

    It’s pretty obvious they are not accustomed to speaking to someone with facts, figures and dates at their fingertips. This, after listening to days and days of a scripted teleprompter addict. Methinks she blew them away today.

    I do have one question though…

    What is the story behind this ?:

    “Hillary should be questioned and assure us that Susan Rice at the United Nations will not shoot her mouth off without direction from the State Department and Hillary.” Clinton.

  61. It was so nice to see Senator Clinton speaking this a.m. Even though, I could not watch the entire hearing, her brilliance shone through like a beacon on a black and stormy night. I had tears in my eyes. She should be the president-elect. She will be a formidable force as SOS, and if allowed, she will do great things.

  62. Mrs. Smith, regarding your question – this from December 8, 2008:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/05/national/w005214S61.DTL

    Secretary of State pick Hillary Rodham Clinton and potential U.N. envoy Susan Rice, whose post Obama will elevate to a cabinet position, separately visited the agency’s headquarters in Washington’s Foggy Bottom neighborhood, according to officials familiar with the transition.

    Those officials said Rice wants to install her own transition team inside the State Department, but that was denied by the Obama team and aides to Clinton.

    “Sen. Clinton has great respect for the ambassador-designate and looks forward to working with her,” said Kiki McLean, a spokeswoman for the senator. [snip]

    In announcing Rice’s and Clinton’s nominations last week, Obama’s said he wants Rice to play a more significant role in foreign policy than some previous U.N. envoys, most of whom have not been members of the president’s cabinet.

    “As in previous administrations, the U.N. ambassador will serve as a member of my cabinet and integral member of my team,” Obama said.

    There is already a small Obama agency review team at the U.N., and the officials said incoming U.N. ambassadors rarely have transition staff at the State Department because the job is based in New York. [snip]

    Technically, the job of U.N. envoy falls under the authority of the secretary of state, although some previous U.N. ambassadors have held Cabinet rank. The last U.N. ambassador to be part of the president’s Cabinet was Richard Holbrooke, who had a famously icy relationship with then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright during the Clinton administration.

    Albright, who was President Clinton’s first ambassador to the United Nations, was a mentor to Rice. But the two had a falling out when Albright, America’s first female secretary of state, lined up behind Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination and Rice backed Obama.

  63. Interesting post on No Quarter by someone who was high up in the Clinton campaign.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/13/obama-and-the-american-lefts-part-i/#more-10918

  64. Politico says the obvious – Hillary was amazing (Politico is wrong to credit “smart power” in any way to Obama the klutz):

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17421.html

    During an otherwise sedate confirmation hearing, Clinton exhibited a staggering range of foreign policy knowledge, declaring a new era of American diplomacy and coining a new phrase — “smart power” — to describe an Obama-Clinton approach that blends ideology and realpolitik in equal measure.

  65. One silver lining item, at a best case this could result in Hilary having in effect 3 or 4 terms, if she ends up succeeding Obama in 2012 or 2016. I know that seems unlikely with the current DNC, but things do change.

    Or, she and Bill may end up being like Cheney and the others behind the GOP throne who effectively kept themselves in power from Nixon through Bush II.

    She and Bill may get certain things done better from the world platform than from the White House. Let the silly journalists focus on the silly Obama while the grownups get on with practical stuff.

  66. admin Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Mrs. Smith, regarding your question – this from December 8, 2008:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Thanks Admin for posting an understanding of the relationship.

    Today, I think Hillary has cemented the ground under her feet as solid with unquestionable knowledge of the range of power imbued in the position of SOS and her future plans of expanding that power in the best interests of the US..

    “Hillary is doing what others dream about doing”… my quote (and by jove, she’s done it!)

    Mz. Rice, otoh, hmm-

  67. This from Admin’s politico article:

    Luger said:

    “The core of the problem is that foreign governments and entities may perceive the Clinton Foundation as a means to gain favor with the secretary of state,” said Lugar. The Clinton Foundation “exists as a temptation for any foreign entity that or government that believes it could curry favor through a donation. … The bottom line is that even well-intentioned foreign donations carry risks for U.S. foreign policy.”

    The caveat that went unsaid is….”except if it’s the Obama Foundation.” “Then there won’t be a problem.”

  68. BTW, Hillary is not the first supremely qualified person not to become president, and she won’t be the last. It’s just too bad competence isn’t the No. 1 priority for enough voters.
    ———————————
    Paula: here are my thoughts on the matter:

    1. first, the voters wanted Hillary. She won the popular vote in the primary and she won the popular vote in the general election based on exit polling sampling–even after she withdrew and supported obama. The people are not the problem.

    2. second, the elites did not want Hillary because she is a woman, she is married to Bill and she would not be their puppet. Instead she would do what was right for the people and the elites did not want that. NAFTA is a perfect case in point. So they attacked her through the media and within the party. Cowardly colleagues succumbed to threats and inducements.

    3. third, she may yet become President. If Obama fails, as I believe he will, based on his lack of experience, the intractible problems he is facing and his idiosyncratic emotional make-up, who else is there that could credibly lead this nation forward. She will support him as best she can, but nothing can prevent him from falling on his own sword if that is indeed what happens.

    4. fourth, today Hillary showed the country and more importantly the world that she is ready to lead on day 1. It is hard to draw any other conclusion than that from what we all witnessed today.

  69. If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama. One caller said he opposed her for SOS because she was responsible for calling BO a terrorist and a Muslim.
    ————————————
    These people are like Pavlovs dog. Big Media and Axelrod injected racism into the campaign (see Wilentz) and thus ring the bell. Unthinking people hear it and salivate like a dog.

  70. The Dog and The Scent Bottle
    (Charles Baudelaire, The Paris Spleen 1869)

    Come here my dear beautiful doggie and smell this excellent perfume which comes from the best Perfumer of Paris.

    And the dog, wagging his tale, which I believe, is that poor creatures way of laughing and smiling, came up and put his curious nose on the uncorked bottle. Then, suddenly, he backed away in terror, barking at me reproachfully.

    Ah dog, if I had offered you a package of excrement you would have sniffed at it with delight and perhaps gobbled it up. In this you resemble the unthinking elements of the public, i.e. bots, who should never be offered delicate perfumes or competent leaders that infuriate them, but only carefully selected garbage.

  71. The following verse by Robert Service is suggestive of the problem Obama faces when he raises public expectations to the moon and then fails to fulfill them:

    From love’s close kiss to hell’s abyss
    Is one sheer flight, I trow,
    And wedding ring and bridal bell
    Are will-o’-wisps of woe.

  72. After watching Hannity on Fox tonight we can now understand why Colmes was removed from the show.As much as I was repulsed by his obnoxious and rude support for Obama his presence gave small credence to the Fox fair and balanced phoney boast.There is no doubt in my mind that Hannity will follow a path of spewing lies and misquotes to discredit Hillary.It is now time for us to fight back and give our all to defend the only real ready and able person on this planet to be the CIC as Obama crumbles and falls on the sword of self adulation and false
    promises.I am certain she will be wecomed by most world leaders friends or foes as our only hope for sense and sensebility in this troubled world that is a bubbleing cauldron of distrust and
    fear in this country that Obama is miserably unqualified to be a world leader and will fuel the fires of military solutions as a response to the problems that he has to face.
    If we shun and ignore the BM and boycott their advertisers fight any form of bailout for them they will not survive their attempts to shape our politics and choose their candidates.They must be stopped now.

    By ABM90 Glad to be part of this great group of patriots fighting for Hillary.Emjay and wbboei I will try to keep up.

  73. The last measure in 2008, taken just before the Democratic National Convention last August and following months of a hotly contested Democratic nomination campaign with Barack Obama, was 54%. Since that time, her image has improved among most key demographic and political subgroups, but much more among women than men.
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    Admin. These polls are a snapshot and the cause and effect is never fully explored. It would be interesting to run a parallel survey of favorable vs unfavorable press coverage during that same period to determine whether this is merely a pavlovian reaction, or some independent thinking is going on. On second thought lets not. I am afraid of the answer.

  74. wbboei, thanks for the Baudelaire. Baudelaire’s “Flowers of Evil” might be an Obama related title someday (or maybe we will do an article based on Sonnet 94, below).

    Here is our contribution to poetry night, as a warning to the Obama worshippers (the third quatrain and the couplet from Sonnet 94, by Bill Shakespeare, which are, like the entire sonnet, very on target in describing Obama):

    The summer’s flower is to the summer sweet,
    Though to itself it only live and die,
    But if that flower with base infection meet,
    The basest weed outbraves his dignity:

    For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds;
    Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds.

  75. There is no doubt in my mind that Hannity will follow a path of spewing lies and misquotes to discredit Hillary
    ——————————–
    Hi ABM: did Hannity do that or are you just suspicous that he will. The only drum he can beat is the Clinton foundation drum. Maybe read the donor list. But I think that is a dead horse. It is senseless to make Hillary a political target now. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. She deserves bi partisan support and not the boy who cried wolf.

  76. For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds;
    Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds.
    ———————————
    Admin: touche

  77. Hey ya’ll

    Is this a joke? Found it on GovTrack, off a Puma thread .

    Maybe I shouldn’t be out late at night by myself.

  78. Well, it would be best if I copied it…

    Congress > Legislation > 2009-2010 (111st Congress) > H. J. Res. 5
    Text of H. J. Res. 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second…

    Show changes:
    Introduced in House. This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration. This is the latest version of the bill available on this website.

    HJ 5 IH

    111th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. J. RES. 5

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 6, 2009

    Mr. SERRANO introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    JOINT RESOLUTION

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

  79. Emjay Says:
    January 13th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    Well, it would be best if I copied it…

    Congress > Legislation > 2009-2010 (111st Congress) > H. J. Res. 5
    Text of H. J. Res. 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second…
    =================

    I’m against it. Bill Clinton has heart trouble and shouldn’t strain himself.

  80. Admin. Les Fleurs Du Mal. I see the connection. Its all about resisting the midset of a bot and the lies of big media.
    ————————————–
    Everyone else sees a “charming sky” and a “unified sea,” but for the speaker all is bloody chaos. He soon rejects his free will, asking the captain of his ship to lead him toward the unknown. Death becomes the only certain release from an oppressive reality that has stalked the speaker around the globe. Through these lines, the speaker serves as a negative example, a warning: Baudelaire exhorts us toward innovation, imagination, and to pursue our own visions rather than let others dictate what we should see.

  81. Good stuff from Riverdaughter
    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/wednesday-q-a/

    But what I see, and many of us see, is a woman who is possessed of healthy self-confidence and who doesn’t really give a flying fig what you think of her. That seems to be the trigger. She is behaving exactly like a man would behave if he had the heart and mind of a president.

    You betcha. Sarah Palin is that way too and says it comes from athletics. I don’t remember if Sarah played against boys, but Hillary’s father taught her to play hardball against the boys in her neighborhood. (Ref “Growing up Rodham”)

  82. wbboei: Hannity spent a good part of his singles act spewing out the line of a cozy daisey chain between Bill Hill and donors to his GIF.He kept it up while laughing and devising new angles for them to milk the system to their advantage.Hannity is now a one man band and he will beat the Clinton hatred drum to death.
    FOX now has the audience the funds and a string of hate mongers perverts and egomaniacs.watch for an increase in AA guests to let them vent their hate for Hillary and their adulation for the chosen one.With newspapers and TV propaganda flooding the populance I beleive that our news sources will diminish to the point of disinterest and our system of checks and balance will suffer.Even the new digital programming,the numerous home forclosures and unemployment will affect our ability and need to stay informed as communications will be greatly reduced.These are all troubling scenarios and must be watched and addressed with strong measures.The old adage “United we stand Divided we fall” must motivate us all to take well organized steps to these enemies within.

    By ABM90..Thank God for Bill and Hillary as our inspirations to
    make things right once more.

  83. Been way to busy to keep up in here like I should lately (although, I DO continue to read when able), but I just couldn’t pass up the chance to come in here this morning and say….WOW! I don’t know WHEN I’ve seen HRC give a more brilliant performance! She made everyone in that room look like bit players in a bad b-movie. I don’t think anyone is in the same league as this woman. Honestly…she is simply brilliant!

    Of course, this is the first time in my life that MY president is being confirmed to the position of SOS. Don’t know exactly how that happened…but I just have to go with it, I guess. Hopefully Bambi just wants to be the face of America, and is more than happy to let the REAL POTUS be the brains and the heart of this great country as we move forward. 🙂

  84. Incidentally, while I found that Vittner came off as a complete and utter ass (hello, you’re asking questions that have already been answered, mate!), I thought Lugar was quite impressive. I personally understand his concerns , and I feel that HRC herself understood them. He didn’t DEMAND , but instead carefully expressed his concerns and tried to offer, what I think , was constructive advice. He gain points with me for that, I have to say.

  85. I just posted at

    h….l no w’s

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/sacre-bleu-le-m.html?cid=145040308#comment-145040308

    [Obama]’winning’ his 1996 race is a euphemism for ‘getting all his opponents knocked off the ballot so he could ‘run’ unopposed.’ He could not have won a vote against the incumbent “beloved elder stateswoman” Alice Palmer, so he made a vote impossible. Just as he could not win a vote against Hillary Clinton, so he maneuvered in the back rooms of Florida and Michigan and Denver to prevent her votes from being counted. (And Hillary still ‘won’ the exit polls; 9.5 million of McCain’s voters preferred Hillary.)
    Ref “Showing his bare knuckles” in a Chicago Tribune profile.

    Easy posting. No login. Went right up at the top of the comments.

  86. Off topic and I’m relatively unfamiliar with the referenced site … but I cannot resist:

    President Bush has declared an emergency in the District of Columbia for the inauguration of his successor – an unprecedented move that will allow federal funds and disaster resources to flow more freely to local agencies, according to a FEMA spokesman.

    Full article at:
    3 w’s dot dcexaminer dot com/local/011409-Emergency_declared_in_DC_to_allow_for_more_federal_aid.html

  87. HTA,
    Strange article, no?
    Everyone, here’s a longer excerpt. Link is above.

    The declaration was requested by D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty, who warns that inauguration crowds could overwhelm area hospitals and emergency responders.

    Terry Monrad, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said similar declarations have only ever been pre-approved for natural disasters like hurricanes.

    When reviewing Fenty’s request for extra federal aid, the agency looked at “if D.C. [on its own] would have the capabilities and resources to meet critical emergency protective requirements,” said FEMA spokeswoman Alexandra Kirin, and judged that it would not.

    Requests from Maryland and Virginia for similar funds have been submitted and are currently under review, Kirin said. Neither state has requested inaugural reimbursements in the past.

    Fenty’s request “estimated 1.5 million to 2 million people in town for the inauguration, and the associated stresses on the city’s capacity, particularly the medical community,” said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel.

    Fenty had once predicted crowds as large as 5 million would descend on the city, but now in his plea for federal assistance, says that even a crowd of less than half the size would overwhelm the District.

  88. President Bush has declared an emergency in the District of Columbia for the inauguration of his successor — an unprecedented move that will allow federal funds and disaster resources to flow more freely to local agencies, according to a FEMA spokesman.

    The declaration was requested by D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty, who warns that inauguration crowds could overwhelm area hospitals and emergency responders.

    Terry Monrad, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said similar declarations have only ever been pre-approved for natural disasters like hurricanes.

    When reviewing Fenty’s request for extra federal aid, the agency looked at “if D.C. [on its own] would have the capabilities and resources to meet critical emergency protective requirements,” said FEMA spokeswoman Alexandra Kirin, and judged that it would not.

    Requests from Maryland and Virginia for similar funds have been submitted and are currently under review, Kirin said. Neither state has requested inaugural reimbursements in the past.

    Fenty’s request “estimated 1.5 million to 2 million people in town for the inauguration, and the associated stresses on the city’s capacity, particularly the medical community,” said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel.

    Fenty had once predicted crowds as large as 5 million would descend on the city, but now in his plea for federal assistance, says that even a crowd of less than half the size would overwhelm the District.

  89. More of HTA’s article;

    The declaration was requested by D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty, who warns that inauguration crowds could overwhelm area hospitals and emergency responders.

    Terry Monrad, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said similar declarations have only ever been pre-approved for natural disasters like hurricanes.

    When reviewing Fenty’s request for extra federal aid, the agency looked at “if D.C. [on its own] would have the capabilities and resources to meet critical emergency protective requirements,” said FEMA spokeswoman Alexandra Kirin, and judged that it would not.

    Requests from Maryland and Virginia for similar funds have been submitted and are currently under review, Kirin said. Neither state has requested inaugural reimbursements in the past.

    Fenty’s request “estimated 1.5 million to 2 million people in town for the inauguration, and the associated stresses on the city’s capacity, particularly the medical community,” said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel.

    Fenty had once predicted crowds as large as 5 million would descend on the city, but now in his plea for federal assistance, says that even a crowd of less than half the size would overwhelm the District.

  90. holdthemaccountable Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:55 am
    Off topic and I’m relatively unfamiliar with the referenced site … but I cannot resist:

    President Bush has declared an emergency in the District of Columbia for the inauguration of his successor – an unprecedented move that will allow federal funds and disaster resources to flow more freely to local agencies, according to a FEMA spokesman.
    =================

    Hurricane Obama, huh?

  91. Check this one out. It would not be a surprise to see the Precious One organize a substantial (and well funded $$$$) army of internet robots to make him a permanent fixture of our future. Where in hell is all this vast pile of money coming from – and just who is benefiting? No investigations, no inquiry, the con game rolls on and on.–

    Retooling Obama’s campaign machine for the long haul
    The vast network that helped elect Obama will be tapped to lobby lawmakers on behalf of the president, with an eye toward reelection. A service organization as a nonprofit arm is also considered.
    By Peter Wallsten

    January 14, 2009

    Reporting from Washington — As Barack Obama builds his administration and prepares to take office next week, his political team is quietly planning for a nationwide hiring binge that would marshal an army of full-time organizers to press the new president’s agenda and lay the foundation for his reelection.

    The organization, known internally as “Barack Obama 2.0,” is being designed to sustain a grass-roots network of millions that was mobilized last year to elect Obama and now is widely considered the country’s most potent political machine.

    Organizers and even Republicans say the scope of this permanent campaign structure is unprecedented for a president. People familiar with the plan say Obama’s team would use the network in part to pressure lawmakers — particularly wavering Democrats — to help him pass complex legislation on the economy, healthcare and energy.

    The plan could prompt tensions with members of Congress, who are unlikely to welcome the idea of Obama’s political network targeting them from within their own districts. Already, Democratic Party officials on the state level worry that it could become a competing political force that revolves around the president’s ambitions while diminishing the needs of down-ballot Democrats.

    Though the plan still is emerging, one source with knowledge of the internal discussion said the organization could have an annual budget of $75 million in privately raised funds. Another said it would deploy hundreds of paid staff members — possibly one for every congressional district in certain politically important states and even more in larger battlegrounds such as Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina.

    The full-time staff is likely to consist primarily of the presidential campaign workers, many in their 20s, who served as the local points of contact for the campaign’s vast network of neighborhood volunteers. As part of the new organization, these workers probably would focus on similar campaign-style tasks, such as arranging phone banks, distributing signs, recruiting more helpers, buying coffee and doughnuts for house meetings and reporting voter contact data to senior officials.

    “The only way to keep this thing going is to have boots on the ground,” said a strategist familiar with the plan who spoke on condition of anonymity because campaign officials have not granted permission to talk about it.

    In what would be another unprecedented step, Obama’s political staff is deciding whether to create a service organization that would use the vast corps of its grass-roots campaign supporters. As described by one source knowledgeable with the discussions, this nonprofit arm would be used to help victims of natural disasters, but would do so under the Obama umbrella while continuing to build the overall network’s massive e-mail database.

    The prospect of a president being able to guide a service or relief agency outside the framework of his government is a unique development.

    Though the campaign-style organizing network would be operated through the Democratic National Committee, the new service organization is envisioned as a separate nonprofit. Obama recently appointed his friend Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia as chairman of the DNC and his campaign battleground states director, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon, as executive director.

    Some top Obama organizers, such as former deputy campaign manager Steve Hildebrand, had argued that the grass-roots machinery should be kept separate from the DNC to avoid alienating Republicans and independents who were inspired by Obama but could be turned off by a close association with the Democratic Party. But those organizers are not part of the inner circle drafting the plan.

    A centralized system run from the DNC would mark a break from the Democratic tradition of relying more on muscular state and local party organizations. It would more closely mirror the Republican structure created under President Bush, whose political guru Karl Rove engineered the 2004 reelection campaign from his post at the White House using a central GOP database.

    One key difference, however, is that the Republicans used their network to target Democrats and win elections, whereas the Obama system will be used at least in part to influence members of the president’s own party.

    For example, Democratic lawmakers in Republican-leaning districts might resist voting for an Obama-backed global warming bill. In that case, the White House or DNC could use the new network for phone campaigns, demonstrations or lobbying trips to push lawmakers to stick with Obama.

    “You can pretty much target the list to people who haven’t always voted with Democrats,” said a House Democratic leadership aide familiar with the plan.

    This aide said the pressure could actually help Democrats in those districts. They could either point to a groundswell of support for the Obama policy as a reason to vote for it — or, alternatively, they could choose to score points with conservatives by bucking the activists.

    “It could give them cover either way,” the aide said.

    Another Capitol Hill strategist, however, said some lawmakers in closely contested districts were anxious about the Obama plan, “watching very carefully to see whether or not they’re going to be pressured at home.”

    A spokesman for the Obama campaign, Ben LaBolt, declined to comment other than to say that any speculation about budget figures, state-specific strategy or staffing levels was premature because the plan had not been finalized.

    Strategists in both parties said the ideas being discussed would create an on-the-ground weapon for policy battles far more powerful than the speeches, news conferences and donor-targeting techniques traditionally used by presidents.

    “No one’s ever had these kinds of resources,” said Republican strategist Ed Rollins, who led political operations under President Reagan. “This would be the greatest political organization ever put together, if it works.”

    In operating the network, the DNC would work closely with the White House political office, which will be headed by experienced campaign organizers schooled in the Obama tactics of using the Internet to harness the massive network of neighborhood-level volunteers.

    Obama’s presidential campaign generated a database of 13 million e-mail addresses and tens of thousands of phone bank volunteers and neighborhood coordinators. Strategists believe these assets can grow in the years before Obama runs again.

    Concerns about Obama’s ambitions are coming from state party leaders as well as from Capitol Hill.

    “The party needs to be rooted not just around one individual, but it needs to have a grass-roots base that can survive the times and even endure past whoever may be in office,” said Jerry Meek, chairman of the North Carolina Democratic Party. “Obama brings a lot to the table, but, on the other hand, state parties exist for more than serving the objectives of the president and are in the business to elect county commissioners, school board members and members of the legislature.”

    peter.wallsten@latimes.com

  92. Jose Serrano’s district in NY (from Wikipedia). Is this part of the plan to keep the One in office forever? It is not as ulikely as it seemed in the past. Isn’t there a strong resemblance to Obama’s Chicago constituency?

    The territory now within the 16th Congressional District was, in 2000, the poorest of the nation’s 435 present Congressional Districts (with 42.2% of its residents below the poverty line) and the most favorable to Democratic Presidential candidate Al Gore (who won 92% of its vote). Of New York State’s 29 congressional districts it was the most Hispanic and also the youngest (34.5% under 18 years old and 6.7% over 65). It had, as well, the state’s lowest percentage of owner-occupied homes (7.2% versus 53.0% statewide).[1][2] It was recorded as the most Democratic district in the Cook Partisan Voter Index for the 110th U.S. Congress, with a score of D+43.

    [hide]

  93. holdthemaccountable Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:55 am
    President Bush has declared an emergency in the District of Columbia for the inauguration of his successor – an unprecedented move that will allow federal funds and disaster resources to flow more freely to local agencies, according to a FEMA spokesman.
    &&&&

    Well, in perhaps more than one sense, seeing Obama being sworn in is a disaster.

  94. blue

    And they were afraid of Bill and HRC’s power. This is something that is really scary. I saw the intimidation at the state party level this time around. It was terrifying. Sounds like it will get worse.

  95. basil, are your posts “awaiting moderation”? If so, probably due to them containing links to urls. If so, admin has to approve them to clear up the awaiting moderation thingie.

  96. Idunn, maybe it is just me but I had the feeling that Lugar was ‘putting’ on the record in a very public forum so that Hillary would be protected and defend against future rantings that Hill and Bill were not transparent for that mantra, unless they make something up, is the only criticism they will have of our girl while she kicks a$$ as our new SOS.
    Vittner was the one that got in to trouble with prostitutes. How dare he!!!!!

  97. freckles Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama.
    &&&&

    Yes, “How dare she run against The Historic One”. As soon as Obama declared his intention to run in 2007, everyone should have bowed out, due to the historic nature of his candidacy, and because of his extensive resume and accomplishments.

    They can go screw themselves. They’ll be finding that Obama takes less care of AA’s and their issues than McCain. Seriously, McCain would have worked for a broader range of people, despite his campaign rhetoric trying to throw conservatives a frikkin’ bone.

    Meanwhile, Obama now no longer has to hide that he is a Corporate plant, despite his campaign rhetoric trying to throw liberals a frikkin’ bone.

  98. Idunn and ShortTermer, good points about Lugar.

    BTW, I have to say that grassroots initiative sounds impressive – and scary.

  99. Story about Treasury nominee in hot water is on the front of yahoo.

    news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090114/pl_politico/17428

  100. Paula Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
    Interesting post on No Quarter by someone who was high up in the Clinton campaign.
    &&&&&&

    In that post, in the comments section, was the second comment:

    2009-01-13 20:29:31

    He’s not planning okn going away, heavens help us:
    111th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. J. RES. 5

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 6, 2009

    Mr. SERRANO introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    JOINT RESOLUTION

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

    ‘The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.’.

  101. turndownobama-com Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    One silver lining item, at a best case this could result in Hilary having in effect 3 or 4 terms, if she ends up succeeding Obama in 2012 or 2016. I know that seems unlikely with the current DNC, but things do change.

    Or, she and Bill may end up being like Cheney and the others behind the GOP throne who effectively kept themselves in power from Nixon through Bush II.

    She and Bill may get certain things done better from the world platform than from the White House. Let the silly journalists focus on the silly Obama while the grownups get on with practical stuff.
    &&&&&&&

    Excellent point. Hillary and Bill seek power so that they may accomplish things, with an agenda I support. Cheney too sought power to accomplish things, but with an agenda that is despicable.

    Bush sought power for celebrity, adoration, and approval from others to componesate for his insecurity about his lack of skills, ambition and intelligence.

    Obama, like Bush, seeks power for celebrity, adoration, and approval from others to compensate for his insecurity about his lack of skills, ambition and intelligence.

  102. CNN pundits wondered yesterday if obama would come to regret offering SOS to Hillary.

    I’m wondering how long it will take for Obama to realize he is totally overwhelmed and completely unqualified/experienced to do the job he stole from her. Hillary showed just how extensive her qualifications are and how in-depth her knowledge base is to millions of people yesterday. Yes she credited him with this and that, but there is no doubt in my mind that her stature will continue to rise, while his will wither.

    I understand that he threatened to veto his own party if they didn’t hand him his incentive package without any of the changes the dims want. What a way to start his tenure…lol…

  103. Now it appears that Beloved Leader is threatening to veto the first bill out of the box – before he is even crowned!!
    A great way to start… That arrogant twit!!! He needs the $350B TARP money unencumbered so he can pay off those Wall Street dirtbags who helped so earnestly to buy him this distorted “election”. Soros is probably on the phone constantly wondering when the check will arrive..

    Here’s an AP story on the whole gruesome saga:

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090114/D95MKRNG0.html

  104. JanH Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am
    CNN pundits wondered yesterday if obama would come to regret offering SOS to Hillary.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Those scum can’t hide their deep hatred for anything Clinton. They probably despise Chelsea as a knee-jerk reaction.

    They should start to wonder when the country will come to regret letting Obama anywhere near 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

  105. Awkwardness to prevail when Rod Blagojevich swears in members of Senate
    They will determine his fate at impeachment trial

    By Rick Pearson and Ray Long | Chicago Tribune reporters
    January 14, 2009

    SPRINGFIELD — The bright hopes for a new political beginning that often accompany the inauguration of an Illinois legislature will be overshadowed by awkwardness Wednesday when Gov. Rod Blagojevich oversees the swearing-in of a Senate that will sit in judgment at his pending impeachment trial.

    “I think it’s going to be eerie,” Sen. Susan Garrett (D- Lake Forest) said Tuesday. “It’s like being a part of a family where you’re in a position to try to convict a family member—because we worked with him. Whether we liked him or didn’t like him, we’ve been with him for six years.”

    On Wednesday, Blagojevich is scheduled to make his first visit to the state Capitol since his Dec. 9 arrest on federal corruption charges for allegedly trying to trade on his office for personal and political profit, including naming a U.S. senator. His arrest spurred the House to move forward with his impeachment. Conviction in a Senate trial could mean Blagojevich’s removal from office.

    There are several issues big and small surrounding Blagojevich’s participation in the inauguration of the Illinois Senate. The Senate president will swear in the chief justice of the Illinois Supreme Court, Thomas Fitzgerald, as presiding officer over the trial. The senators will be sworn in as jurors under oath by the Senate secretary.

    At the same time, the Senate is dispensing with its honor of designating senators to serve as a committee to escort the governor out of the ornate legislative chambers. Senate leaders plan to direct the chamber’s sergeant-at-arms to deliver to Blagojevich a summons directing him and his lawyers to respond to the article of impeachment filed by the House.

    “It’s probably more awkward for him than it is for us. I’m not sure he understands that,” said Christine Radogno (R-Lemont), the incoming Senate minority leader. “I just don’t sense that he grasps the seriousness of the situation he’s facing.”

    Blagojevich says he is innocent of the criminal charges. He called the House impeachment politically motivated, and said he looks forward to a fair hearing at the Senate trial.

    A new Illinois House also will be sworn in Wednesday and one of the chamber’s first acts will be to revote the 13-point article of impeachment it voted 114-1 on Friday, with one member voting present. The new vote is a technicality caused by the inauguration of the General Assembly, which reflects changes in members as a result of the Nov. 4 general election. The Senate rules for conducting the impeachment trial, scheduled to begin in earnest Jan. 26, will sharply limit Blagojevich’s ability to try to sway senators.

    “It would be the same as tampering with a jury,” said Sen. James Meeks (D-Chicago) of any conversations Blagojevich has with senators.

    Prosecuting the trial on behalf of the House will be David Ellis, the legal counsel for Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago) and the principal author of the report issued by an investigative panel that recommended Blagojevich’s impeachment.

    Ellis, 41, a Chicago attorney since 1993 who moved to Springfield and joined Madigan’s staff in November 2003, has never been a prosecutor or practiced criminal defense law. Though he said the Senate deliberations would have elements of a trial, it will not be conducted as a criminal trial.

    Ellis has written five novels, including one involving a character named Tony Rezko, though it bore no relation to Blagojevich’s top fundraiser and adviser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who was convicted on federal corruption charges. Ellis said there was “no significance” to the use of the name.

    Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune

  106. Money talks promotes elects eliminates and spreads fear never before in the history of our Democracy.Just look at what it bought and look at how much will be spent on the coronation to put a complete stranger in office. “Breathes there a man whose head so swelled that to himself has said.”THe Owe Me”.Yes !Hold your nose and watch the extraveganza on Jan 20.

    By ABM90 After yesterdays conf. hearing the world is now aware of the mistake that will cost us dearly.Standby Hillary we need you.

  107. admin Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113740/Senate-Hearings-Begin-Hillary-Clintons-Image-Soars.aspx

    &freckles Says:

    January 13th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    If you listen to callers on c-span, AAs are still furious at Hillary for running against Obama. One caller said he opposed her for SOS because she was responsible for calling BO a terrorist and a Muslim.

    If they could forgive her for running for pres, her favorables would be about 80%.

    ————————————————

    When obama disappoints everyone left and right and Hillary’s accomplishments grow and grow, what will happen? I’m assuming the illegitimate media will attack her for showing up their messiah. I’m also assuming that she will have to prop him up and give him credit over and over again where credit ISN’T due.

  108. and the AAs will continue to drink the Kool Aid and trash Hillary for all of their king’s mistakes because to stop would mean to admit that they were wrong, that their messiah is a fraud.

  109. ” CNN’s The Situation Room referred to a “a very hard pitch for” Senate Democrats “to allow him to have this money, this $350 billion of the remaining fund to bail out Wall Street. And he said that he doesn’t want to do this to his fellow Democrats, but he feels like he has no choice.”

    How do his “fellow” Democrats feel about this bait and switch?

  110. Thanks for the link basil9. We updated with the link to C-SPAN with the morning and afternoon sessions of the Hillary hearing.

  111. Hirsch on Hillary:

    “Can Hillary corral her commanding personality and submit to President Obama’s direction as secretary of state?” writes Newsweek’s Michael Hirsch. “Clinton’s powerful, controlled performance at her confirmation hearing Tuesday — at which even most Republicans seemed rather tongue-tied — was another reminder that the woman is a force of nature, whatever you might think of her views.”

    ..So True… Where the hell were you during the primary???

  112. BTW, everyone should relax about that bill to amend the Constitution. Some legislator introduces this every session, and it never goes anywhere. This has nothing to do with Obama.

    BTW, those CNN pundits are full of crap, as usual. Obama will be thinking his lucky stars in no time that he has Hillary on board.

  113. blue,

    It shocked me how complimentary matthews was as well yesterday. At the same time, most of the media pundits gave one or two minutess to her amazing performance and the rest of the time came out swinging ad nauseum about the foundation.

  114. CNN pundits wondered yesterday if obama would come to regret offering SOS to Hillary.

    I’m wondering how long it will take for Obama to realize he is totally overwhelmed and completely unqualified/experienced to do the job he stole from her. Hillary showed just how extensive her qualifications are and how in-depth her knowledge base is to millions of people yesterday. Yes she credited him with this and that, but there is no doubt in my mind that her stature will continue to rise, while his will wither.

    I understand that he threatened to veto his own party if they didn’t hand him his incentive package without any of the changes the dims want. What a way to start his tenure…lol…
    —————————————
    I believe this is very personal for cnn. They believe that they know more about world affairs than anyone, based on their vast foreign apparatus. They got a taste of what it might have been like when they accompanied him on that European odessey as cheerleaders in chief. They relished the idea of gettting access and influence with foreign dictators along the way. They were starting to flesh out a business plan on that–and now this.

    So what does it mean to them when they hear the words Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Well, first it means that they will not be the subject matter experts they thought they would in the administration. Second, it means they will not have direct access to dirt on the Clintons–so they must find themselves a mole. Third, it means that it will be harder for them to spin facts because sensitive information will be handled on a need to know basis–remember they are always happiest when information is leaking out of the administration. Fourth, it means that their competitors in the foreign press will stand on equal footing with them, rather than being marginalized.

    In sum, any way you look at it, this is bad news for cnn. Which is why they are dissing it with questions like how long until he regrets the decision. They can say things like that because they have no regard for the welfare of this nation–only their own. And they discern quite correctly that they have been dissed and frozen out after all they did for him.

    This is not about the truth, nor is it about journalism. It is about power-indeed megalamania, namely their own. So now they are at it again culling over foundation records and trying to show a base corrolation between contributions to the foundation and those who benefitted from legislation hillary sponsored. Correllation does not establish casusation. It is a useless story. A gift is different from a contract. The fundation is transparent. It is a passthrough for world disaster relief. It is all spin.

    If I havent convinced you yet how sick and pathological these bastards are, think back to the time when they were frothing at the mouth–AP and the others for Hillarys diaries. They claimed what they were interested in verifiying that she had the experience she claimed she did as first lady, but in the end it turned out that all they were really after was to determine whether Hillary was present in the white house when Monica was there.

  115. wbboei Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

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    Even if I wasn’t convinced before, your post is a brilliant analysis of the situation. I will admit to being happy that the U.S. media will be knocked back a step and that international media will have more of a voice.

    Moon stated the other day that obama is not well liked over there. It is to be hoped that this virus spreads throughout.

  116. blue, I think part of the reason the MSM can’t stand Hillary is because she intimidates them with her commanding presence. Seriously.

    BTW, I think Obama chose her because he knew he could entrust so much responsibility to her. Trust me, she will be the major foreign policy figure in this administration.

  117. To put a slightly finer point on my previous comments, big media in general and cnn in particular believed that becasuse they were partners in the Obama campaign, they would be partners in the Obama administration. The hard left felt the same way. It has not worked out that way.

  118. There’s Part II now at NQ (i’ll provide the link) following the Part I that turndownobama mentioned last night. Here’s the text:

    Obama and the American Lefts: Part II
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    [NQ Note: We are pleased to present Part 2 of the essay by a brilliant political strategist who blogs under the name “Sam Copeland.” Sam is an expert in political persuasion and worked at the highest level of the Hillary Clinton campaign. Read Part I, published last evening.]

    In my last post, I described the split in the Democratic Party between leftists and centrist All-American Liberals. Obama appealed to the leftists to be selected as the Democratic nominee. Hillary ran an honest campaign as a centrist liberal. Now that Obama has won the Presidency, he is adopting her positions and putting Clinonistas into prominent positions. If you are a Clintonista optimist, the glass is half full (at least Clintonians are in the government), but if you are a pessimist, the glass is half empty (why not Hillary?). And as I noted before, the engineer looks at the half-full/half-empty glass and asks, “Why does this glass have wasted capacity? Why isn’t Hillary Clinton in charge?” To see the outline of the answer to that question, let’s return to the first term of Bill Clinton’s Presidency (if but only we could in real life).

    Like Barack Obama, Bill Clinton came into the Presidency on a message of hope (the Man from Hope to be exact) and change. Unlike Obama, Bill Clinton was much more specific about the change he would bring – the centrist, All-American Liberal policies I described. When he implemented that change, he was met with opposition not only from the right but from the leftist-wing. For example, his tax cuts for lower income Americans and tax increases for the rich brought the scorn of the neo-cons. His changes to welfare were attacked by the leftists.

    Both of these policies were economically sound (contributing to the Clinton economic miracle) and both were morally right. The rich should strive to match the patriotism of the poor and middle classes who send their sons and daughters to fight our wars. A life on welfare is not a psychologically healthy lifestyle.

    The political environment of Bill Clinton and of Barack Obama is much different than the political environment of FDR and Truman. In those days, centrist All-American Liberalism reigned supreme. Neo-cons such as Joseph McCarthy and Douglas MacArthur and leftists such as Henry Wallace made lots of noise but were in decline. The second most popular political position was the moderate Republicanism of Dewey and Eisenhower (in many ways a “me-too” liberalism). All that has changed and political discourse is now dominated by neo-con and leftist rhetoric. The liberal’s natural ally, Moderate Republicanism, is a thing of the past. An All-American Liberal today is attacked by both the right and the left. Hillary Clinton was attacked by the likes of Ann Coulter and the adolescents at Daily Kos.

    The answer to the engineer’s question: The reason for the wasted capacity is that anyone that champions All-American liberalism and the values of middle-class America will be attacked by the neo-con and leftist extremists that dominate today’s mass-mediated political discourse.

    What will happen to Barack Obama if he adopts Clintonian policies? Quite simply: He should expect the same attacks that Bill and Hillary have gotten.
    Currently, Obama has the support of the leftists although he is viewed skeptically by Clintonistas such as myself. How long will he keep this leftist support? Quite frankly, I am surprised that it hasn’t dawned on them already that the change we can believe in is the change in Obama’s policy positions. I thought the reappointment of Secretary of Defense Gates would do it. Needless to say, that was some pretty strong Kool-aid that Obama supporters swilled down during the primaries.

    Nevertheless, leftist elites are starting to feel like they have been put out in the cold. Obama’s stimulus package is being attacked by those in Congress on the left (for the tax cuts) and those on the right (for the government spending programs). Sound familiar? As insightful and thorough as ever, LisaB has more details on leftists’ rumblings.

    Ultimately, Obama’s political fate hinges on one issue: Can he revive the American economy enough in four years to earn re-election? To do that he needs the technical know-how to run the economy (and for this he is rightly turning to those who know Clinton economics) and the political skills both to keep the support of the American people and to maintain a ruling coalition in Congress.

    Currently, Obama is receiving increasing support from the American people. This is typical after an election as citizens rally around their new leader. It should not be mistaken for support of Obama’s policies. He must earn that support.

    In the primaries, Obama compared himself to Ronald Reagan who, in Obama’s eyes, created a new conservative movement. Obama, supposedly, was to create a similar political realignment for the left. The comparison falls short. Reagan won the 1980 election on the strength of his personality and on his political agenda, which he spelled out in detail in a series of radio broadcasts given in the late 1970s. Obama won the 2008 election on the strength of his personality and the failures of George W. Bush. He did not spell out his vision for America in the detail of Ronald Reagan, and thus there is no vision to rally a new liberal movement. He refuses to make a contrast between liberal and neo-con political philosophies (as Reagan did) and instead worships at the altar of a vague notion of bi-partisanism.

    Without the vision-thing, Obama’s Presidency runs the risk of a rudderless ship much like the Presidency of George H. W. Bush. A vision and clear direction will allow Obama to suffer successfully the slings and arrows of attacks of the right and the left. It will buy him goodwill and understanding from the American people. Bill Clinton spelled out his vision for America, and it was one reason he remains a popular President.

    The formula for maintaining a ruling coalition in Congress is simple: For every leftist Democrat Obama loses when he adopts a centrist liberal position, Obama must find someone on the right to replace that leftist. While straightforward, this is a daunting task because there are few if any moderate Republicans left in the world today. A move to the right is a pretty far jump.

    With the current configuration of the Senate, Obama needs only one Republican vote to avoid a filibuster. One way Obama can get his policies through Congress is to pit one side against the other – leftist versus neo-con – and stake out the popular middle ground for himself. His pay-to-play skills as a Chicago Pol will come in handy when he needs to purchase those one or two Congressional votes to secure a win.

    Will Obama be able to pull this political rabbit out of his hat? It remains to be seen, but I am reminded of what Bill Clinton said about George W. Bush just after showing him and Laura around the White House: “Underestimate Bush at your own peril.” Don’t underestimate the political skills of Barack Obama. He is a ruthless politician. The fact that our mainstream media don’t even perceive him to be a politician just makes my point.

    In the current political environment, ruthlessness can be a good thing. Obama needs to be able to throw people under the bus if that is what is required to lead. But such ruthlessness has its cost. Unlike in the past where those discarded could be forgotten as Obama moved on, he is now at the top level and those he discards will have a tendency to hang around and quite possibly come back to haunt him.

    Conclusion: Obama’s ability to navigate this political environment will determine not only the success of his Presidency and the prosperity of ours and others’ nations, but will also determine which left, if any, will rise to dominance on America’s political scene.

  119. Notice how hardly anyone in the media even considers Hillary might be motivated to take the job because she cares about this country and takes her commitment to public service seriously.

    also, wbboei, great post at 12:09.

  120. As far as a “mole” goes, I would so much rather a “big name” in media come forward and spill the beans as to what went on behind the scenes/pressure with regards to annoiting the messiah.

    A complete expose of the dark side of msm would make my day!

  121. Might as well list out text of Part I, that was interesting too:

    Obama and the American Lefts: Part I
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    By Sam CopelandcloseAuthor: Sam Copeland Name: Sam Copeland

    [NQ Note: We are pleased to present another essay in two parts by a brilliant political strategist who blogs under the name “Sam Copeland.” Sam is an expert in political persuasion and worked at the highest level of the Clinton campaign. We plan to publish part II tomorrow morning.]

    Will Rogers famously said: “I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.”

    The inauguration of a new President is a good time to take stock of the current disorganization of the Democratic Party.

    Bud White has it right: there really are two Democratic Parties.

    The American left is split into two groups – a leftist wing that tends towards socialism and pacifism and a centrist wing – an All-American Liberal wing – that supports a liberal version of capitalism and a strong defense.

    The centrist All-American Liberal wing supports free trade but wants it to be fair trade too. Free markets are important for economic well-being, but government has a role in checking abuses and, in an oft-forgotten phrase from the progressive era, regulating combinations in restraint of trade. The federal government should be lean and efficient and not bloated (the leftist view) or non-existent (the neo-con view).

    Government spending is about investing in the future of the nation to stimulate economic growth and to enhance citizen well-being. Governments are instituted to protect the right to life, liberty, and happiness of every man and woman. Foreign policy follows the edict of Teddy Roosevelt – walk softly but carry a big stick.

    This split in the American left goes back to at least the era of FDR and Truman.

    For example, Truman was flanked on his left in the 1948 election by FDR’s former Vice Presedent Henry Wallace. In the late 1960s, the book The Greening of America codified this split as the New Left of the radical ‘60s left – which emphasized consciousness raising and symbols of change – and the Old Left of the New Deal era which emphasized more concrete economic and policy changes in support of the workers’ middle class.

    Today, the leftist wing of the Democratic Party is represented by Reid, Pelosi, and Dean whereas the All-American Liberal wing finds its champions in Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    Barack Obama became the selected nominee of the Democratic Party by appealing to the leftist-wing. He told the left-wing specifically what they wanted to hear about Iraq (it was wrong and we will withdraw on timetables), vaguely what they wanted to hear on economics (a hope message long on rhetoric and short on specifics), and most importantly satisfied their social identity needs to be seen as different, unique, radical, and special. Although Obama received a half a million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton, he could depend on his champion Howard Dean to manipulate the Democratic primary rules so that those votes weren’t counted in places such as Florida and Michigan.

    Senator Obama became President Obama, thanks to George W. Bush. The election was close until the economic meltdown. This meltdown was the fruit of Bush’s insane neo-con economic policy. The political fall-out was a complete rejection of the Republicans at the polls by an angry American public.

    Now, a funny thing happen to Barack Obama on the way to his inauguration. He became a Clintonista! During the primaries, he ridiculed the economic policies of Bill Clinton. By the end of the general election, he was claiming to bear the mantle of Clinton-nomics. Once elected, he appointed Clintonista after Clintonista to high government office, including the top Clintonista to the top spot – Senator Clinton to be the Secretary of State. The former President, who Obama’s wife once called a racist, became a co-chair of his inauguration. In contrast, Howard Dean, expecting a cabinet-level appointment, was thrown under the bus along with other leftist-wing supporters who hoped for policy-making positions in the new government.

    I must admit my surprise at what I have seen. As Clintonista after Clintonista was appointed to government positions I couldn’t believe my eyes. In hindsight, I shouldn’t have been so surprised. Obama’s rise to power – from neighborhood to state district to state and now to nation – has been marked by his development of a loyal band of supporters who help him win at one level only to be discarded as he sets his eyes on a new political prize. Obama moves from one political position to another with ease. He has advanced 7 different positions on the Iraq war** and, save for Bill Clinton, no one seemed to notice or care. Bill Clinton was called a racist for his efforts. Obama’s tendency to throw supporters under the bus should serve as a warning to Clintonistas in his administration.

    Why this transformation? Your guess is as good as mine. A friend of mine who isn’t heavily involved in politics offered what is as good an explanation as any. When he watched the Chicago media event staged just after Obama was declared the winner of the Presidential election, he noted that everyone was smiling save for Barack Obama. It was as if Obama was thinking, “Oh shit, now what?” Obama has never been in a real position of leadership in his entire life and now he finds himself in the most demanding leadership position in the world. What to do? Well, you go and find the people who actually succeeded in running the country and put them in charge. Those folks happen to be Clinonistas.

    If you are a centrist All-American Liberal, how you perceive this transformation of Barack Obama depends on whether you are a pessimist, an optimist, or an engineer.

    The pessimist sees the glass as half empty and says, “We should and could have Hillary Clinton in charge.”

    The optimist looks at the half full glass and says, “It could have been worst. Obama could have put the Howard Deans of the world in charge.”

    The engineer looks at the half-full/half-empty glass and asks, “Why does this glass have wasted capacity? Why isn’t Hillary Clinton in charge?”

    Now that Obama has shown Clintonista tendencies, the answer to the engineer’s question should concern him greatly. His political success depends on it! The answer can be seen in events that happened in the early part of the Clinton Presidency, which I will discuss in my next post, Obama and the American Lefts, Part II.

    ** Obama’s 7 positions on the Iraq war include: (1) early opposition in 2002; (2) as a US Senate candidate he called for a surge and said withdrawal on timetables would insult our troops; (3) as a US Senator he took the mainstream Democratic position of complaining about the war but continuing the funding unlike true progressives such as Feingold who tried to stop the funding; (4) at the beginning of the primaries, he took the same position as Hillary Clinton of smart withdrawal – doing the diplomatic work so we could withdraw our troops; (5) gaining no political traction with position #4, Obama called for withdrawal on timetables in 16 months; (6) receiving the nomination, Obama said he would leave residual troops in Iraq to fight al Qaeda; and (7) as the general election wears on Obama says he will listen to his generals about withdrawal from Iraq.

  122. Paula,

    The Clintons refuse to play the game. They know how much Hillary cares about her homeland. They just refuse to push any agenda that is favorable to her.

  123. JanH Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
    wbboei Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

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    Even if I wasn’t convinced before, your post is a brilliant analysis of the situation. I will admit to being happy that the U.S. media will be knocked back a step and that international media will have more of a voice.

    Moon stated the other day that obama is not well liked over there. It is to be hoped that this virus spreads throughout.
    &&&&&&&

    I thought there was quite a bit of “positivity” and “hopefulness” from people in other countries, and their media… I could be wrong. I do think generally, the international media was more evenhanded.

    Maybe it was CNN playing up “how beloved this Great Man, Nay, this Goliath of Justice”, was being received elsewhere. CNN probably was not the source of the “Obama burned in effigy” story…

  124. Yahoo, ahem, “news”:

    Tax problems derail fast Senate OK for Geithner

    WASHINGTON – Revelations about Timothy Geithner’s tax problems derailed Senate Democrats’ plans Wednesday to speed him to confirmation as treasury secretary so he could be sworn in on Inauguration Day.

    President-elect Barack Obama had hoped for Geithner to be approved quickly so he could join other officials in urgent efforts to revive the failing national economy beginning immediately after Obama’s own inauguration next Tuesday. Now, Geithner’s confirmation hearing isn’t scheduled until next Wednesday, with Senate debate and a vote some time after that.

    A top Republican objected to a hearing this Friday for Geithner at the Senate Finance Committee after the panel disclosed he failed to pay $34,000 in taxes several years ago.

    Still, Democrats and Republicans on the panel voiced strong support for Geithner, who was phoning senators individually to persuade them that his tax problems were the result of innocent mistakes, not deliberate attempts to avoid paying the Internal Revenue Service.

  125. blue, I think part of the reason the MSM can’t stand Hillary is because she intimidates them with her commanding presence. Seriously.
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    A commanding presence is what she is. That is the best way I have ever heard it put. It is what I see, hear and feel when I watch her. Some people can handle that and others are intimidated.

    Therein lies the difference between the people and the elites. The American people want a leader. Elites want a puppet.

    Now, if the elites were always right, well there might be some reason to defer to their superior judgement. But too often experience has shown that they are wrong and even when they turn out to be right the benefits they derive never seem to trickle down to the rest of us.

    That can be seen in the increasing wage gap and the systemic erosion of the middle class. Thus, there is no reason for the people to defer to their judment, or to indulge the fiction that the candidate they select and promote thorugh the levers of power which they alone control represents the people. On the odds he is a puppet.

    There are more colorful ways to put it but that is what it boils down to. Rooselvelt broke from that tradition, but it usually required a breakdown of the system which demonstated in painful ways the avarice and ineptitude of elites. Otherwise they seem to control the chessboard.

  126. “Although Obama received a half a million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton, he could depend on his champion Howard Dean to manipulate the Democratic primary rules so that those votes weren’t counted in places such as Florida and Michigan.”

    Oh how I would love for there to be a humongous billboard sign with the message above on it…stationed front and center enroute to the inaugural festivities.

  127. I apoligize if that sounded too fatalistic. If we can find the right opening we can beat them. I am more optimistic in that respect. But the key to it is, has always been and will forever remain access to clear, unbiased information. That is why the work that turndown, blue and others are doing is important. There is a sorting and labelling function, a set of standards and indeed a notion of how to think, as opposed to what to think that is vitally important to the future of our democacy.

  128. JanH Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    Oh how I would love for there to be a humongous billboard sign with the message above on it…stationed front and center enroute to the inaugural festivities.
    &&&&&&&&

    That will be a day of mourning at our house. In order to avoid the “Can’t Miss” every-channel all-day-long coverage, we have Star Wars Parts 3, 4, 5, and 6 yet to see.

    Here in Philly, people are excited about Football. It seems that the excitement about the election is over, and the Inauguration is for “people who are into that sort of thing”. And perhaps some Bots are less excited than on Election Day, having seen Obama transform into Clinton-lite: “Half the oomph, none of the flavor, but a fancy label, and a HUGE marketing campaign budget”.

  129. Obamas current effort is to develop personal relationships with conservative journanlists like George Will, in an obvious attempt to control what they say about him. I do not know whether the attention and deferecence he shows them in the course of an evening will anesthestitze them for whatever lies ahead–I doubt it. But I do not forget the fact that people like Will are weak and manipulable.

  130. okay so three hip hip hoorays for Senator Clinton and her latest display of integrity and intelligence.
    has anyone else heard from those who suppurted bambi who now regret it?

  131. Here in Philly, people are excited about Football. It seems that the excitement about the election is over, and the Inauguration is for “people who are into that sort of thing”.
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    It is anti-climactic.

  132. Still, Democrats and Republicans on the panel voiced strong support for Geithner, who was phoning senators individually to persuade them that his tax problems were the result of innocent mistakes, not deliberate attempts to avoid paying the Internal Revenue Service.

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    Innocent mistakes by a candidate for Treasury Secretary? Just oversight? Not deliberate? Sounds like carelessness. And this person is going to be managing the U.S. Treasury? Shudders.

  133. okay so three hip hip hoorays for Senator Clinton and her latest display of integrity and intelligence.
    has anyone else heard from those who suppurted bambi who now regret it?
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    Henry: go back to the tape from yesterday. Watch Kerry while Mendendez was delivering a rebuttal which was clearly aimed at Vitters caustic attack on the foundation activities and the spurious claim that the QFR answers needed to be included.

    What was old horseface doing as Mendendez talked about the great things the Clinton foundation was doing? He was tapping the tip of his pen on the table more than 100 times and when Mendendez he accused him of attacking his cochairman Lugar which Mendendez denied. And then Kerry said he shared the concern expressed.

    I would say that Kerry is most certainly one who supported Bambi and regrets the fact that he selected Hillary rather than him. CNN is another. MSNBC. AP. All the forces of darkness.

  134. OBAMA TRIES TO QUELL BOTS’ ANGER

    NY Times article from Monday (my $$$ comments inserted here and there):

    Gay Bishop Is Asked to Say Prayer at Inaugural Event
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    By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
    Published: January 12, 2009

    President-elect Barack Obama has asked V. Gene Robinson, the openly gay Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire, to deliver the invocation at an inaugural event on Sunday on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

    Gay rights advocates saw the move as a way to compensate for Mr. Obama’s decision to give the Rev. Rick Warren, a prominent megachurch pastor from California who opposes same-sex marriage, the high-profile role of delivering the invocation at the inauguration next week.

    $$$ Some Bots will acquiesce to Obama no matter what, even if there are photos of him pulling a dead body out of his car trunk.

    Bishop Robinson advised Mr. Obama on gay rights issues during the campaign. He is the first openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church, and his consecration in 2003 set off a growing rift in that church’s parent body, the Anglican Communion. Since then, Bishop Robinson has become an internationally known spokesman for gay rights — a hero to some and an object of scorn to others.

    In a telephone interview on Monday, Bishop Robinson said that he believed his inclusion in inaugural events had been under consideration before the controversy erupted over Mr. Warren but that Mr. Obama and his team were also seeking to heal the pain that Mr. Warren’s selection had caused among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocates.

    “They called up and said this has actually been in the works for a long time,” Bishop Robinson said, “and at the same time, we understand that people in the L.G.B.T. community have been somewhat wounded by this choice, and it’s our hope that your selection will go a long way to heal those divides.”

    $$$ Feel the bus. It’s now your turn. Oh, now he’s backing it up to run over you again.

    “In many ways,” he added, “it just proves that Barack Obama is exactly who he says he was and would be as president, which is someone who is casting a wide net that will include all Americans.”

    $$$ Nice feeble yadda-yadda cover up attempt. Pathetic. Call him what he is: The Deceiver.

    Bishop Robinson said that he had learned of the invitation about two and a half weeks ago but that he and the transition team had agreed to break the news on Monday in The Concord Monitor, his local newspaper in New Hampshire.

    The event Bishop Robinson will participate in is on the first day of formal inaugural festivities in Washington. It will feature a lineup that includes the musicians Beyoncé, Bono, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Wonder.

    The pay cable network HBO will broadcast the event and provide a free signal so that nonsubscribers can also watch, said Linda Douglass, the chief spokeswoman for the inaugural committee.

    $$$ I still won’t watch it.

    Bishop Robinson said he had been reading inaugural prayers through history and was “horrified” at how “specifically and aggressively Christian they were.”

    “I am very clear,” he said, “that this will not be a Christian prayer, and I won’t be quoting Scripture or anything like that. The texts that I hold as sacred are not sacred texts for all Americans, and I want all people to feel that this is their prayer.”

    Bishop Robinson said he might address the prayer to “the God of our many understandings,” language that he said he learned from the 12-step program he attended for his alcohol addiction.

    Bishop Robinson said that his partner of more than 20 years, Mark Andrew, would accept the Obama team’s invitation to join him in attending several inaugural events. The two had a civil union ceremony last summer in a New Hampshire church.

    Evan Wolfson, executive director of the gay rights group Freedom to Marry, said the choice of Bishop Robinson to deliver the invocation at an inaugural event was “a very powerful statement.” But, Mr. Wolfson added, “at the end of the day, policy is more important than who stands at the inauguration.”

  135. wbboie
    I was referring to the people we all know, I have heard so many over the last week express that they wish they had supported Hill.
    She won PA anyhow so they may not have made a difference but it is fascinating to watch as they wake up

  136. We have put little old ladies in jail for not paying their taxes. The only difference is he was able to come up with the money. Give me a break, you want to put someone in charge of the Treasury that did not know he had to pay taxes for a couple of years? He has a college degree, and even little old ladies know they have to pay taxes.

    A first year late payment because he had to figure out the process of a contractor I could understand. However, not Paying for a couple of years is not stupid, or innocent, it is fraud and tax evasion.

  137. Still, Democrats and Republicans on the panel voiced strong support for Geithner, who was phoning senators individually to persuade them that his tax problems were the result of innocent mistakes, not deliberate attempts to avoid paying the Internal Revenue Service.
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    Birdgal: I feel the same way you do. These are zoe baird type problems. But the situation now is different. This is the guy Hillary relied on for financial insight during her campaign, and it is a good thing for her personally, her role as secretary of state and the country that he be part of this cabinet that he be confirmed. What we dont want is some left wing bot in that position and if he is knocked out that could be what happens given the pressure being exerted now by the far left who believe they have not gotten a key appointment.

  138. You’re not going to believe this…

    DOWD: “HILLARY GETS AN ‘A’ ”

    Tim Geithner! Why Are Rich People So Cheap? (From the arctic to pathogens, Hillary gets an A)
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    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: January 13, 2009

    Smart is the new cool.

    So said Arne Duncan, the Chicago schools’ chief, at his Senate confirmation hearing Tuesday to be Barack Obama’s education secretary.

    Obama’s brainy ways and political posse of “hot nerds,” as one admiring reporter dubbed them, could inspire schoolchildren to aspire.

    When Duncan spends a little more time in Washington, he will learn something strange: Politics is a place where really smart people often get caught doing really dumb things.

    Take Tim Geithner, the hot nerd tapped by Obama to fix the colossal mess left by W. and Henry Paulson, a man who played with live snakes and dead-on-arrival ideas.

    How does a guy on the fast track to be Treasury secretary fail to pay $34,000 worth of federal taxes ($43,200, including interest), or forget to check on the immigration status of a house cleaner — the same sort of upstairs-downstairs slip-up that has tripped up other top-drawer prospects on their way to top jobs here? Americans expect the man who’s in charge of the I.R.S. to pay his own taxes.

    Geithner’s transgressions may seem petty given the kind of transgressions that have taken place in the Bush administration, and given the dire warnings of Obama’s choice for budget director, Peter Orszag, that the end may be nigh if the U.S. continues to spend beyond its means.

    But Obama has proselytized about a shiny new kind of politics, and it’s déjà vu all over again with the smart being dumb, the rich being greedy, the powerful being sketchy.

    This brings us to the Clintons.

    Hillary aced her Senate hearing on Tuesday, performing as the A-student she is. As one of her former campaign aides said, whatever else you say about her, she is always prepared.

    With Chelsea sitting protectively behind in a plum dress and glam ’40s hairdo — Bill was watching on TV with his mother-in-law — Hillary showed the reasons she could be a star at state and queen of Obama’s hot nerds.

    She was on top of all the issues, no matter how obscure. She batted around our “stale” arctic policy — who knew? — with Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski, who doesn’t seem to realize we’re sick of Alaska.

    She was up to date on the inevitable Law of the Sea Treaty.

    She ladled up the broth of flattery expected in the Senate with a chef’s finesse. Even after Senator Dick Lugar, the ranking Republican on the panel that was questioning her, tut-tutted that her links to Bill Clinton’s foundation carry the “risk” of foreign governments “and entities” trying to curry favor with Madam Secretary by donating money to her husband, she deftly buttered up Lugar.

    “Your leadership and inspiration with respect to arms control and especially nonproliferation and the efforts to contain and destroy loose nukes and other materiel, and now moving into the pathogen area, which is particularly dangerous, is a great example to me of what we should be doing,” she told a beaming Senator Lugar.

    Not many women can talk about “the pathogen area” with such authority and yet femininity.

    After enduring endless pompous lecturing from John Kerry on what she should read and think — a thinly veiled attempt to show the world that he would have made a better secretary of state, and indeed, thinks he was promised it by Obama — Hillary slathered on the oleo.

    After his windy discourse on how scientists had “revised the levels of supportable greenhouse gas emissions from 550 parts per million to 450 to now 350,” Hillary replied: “You are eloquent in describing it, and you’ve been a leader in trying to sound the alarm on it for many years.”

    That seemed to calm Kerry down a bit.

    The only one who attempted to joust with her about Bill’s unappetizing gravy train was David Vitter, the Louisiana Republican who was caught messing about with the notorious D.C. Madam in 2007, and he wasn’t the right messenger.

    Hillary swatted him away.

    She will easily intimidate the world’s dictators, just as she often intimidated Obama in the primaries. But it remains to be seen whether she can put aside her tendency to see disagreement as disloyalty. Can she work at the State Department with those who deserted her to support the usurper Obama? Can she manage Foggy Bottom better than she managed her foggy campaign?

    Obama and Hillary continue to be engaged in an intense tango.

    The new president is confident enough to think he can do what has never been done. He thinks he can pull out — like a diamond from carbon — the sparkling side of the Clintons that can make them exceptional public servants, extracting it from the gray side of the Clintons that can make them tacky, greedy, opportunistic and ethically shady.

    Cleaning out the Augean stables was nothing compared to this task, with Obama trying to bend Hillary and Bill to his will, while they try to bend him to theirs.

  139. wbboie
    I was referring to the people we all know, I have heard so many over the last week express that they wish they had supported Hill.
    She won PA anyhow so they may not have made a difference but it is fascinating to watch as they wake up

    henry Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    Wbboie where are you in PA I went to Temple
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    I campaigned for Hillary in Pennsylvania but do not live there. I was in Kitani and outside Pittsburg. I live on the on the Pacific coast.

    The problem here Henry is not the people. It is the elites. It will not matter if the people change their minds. The elites are the problem. The dnc and media. But if obama stumbles and the situation falls apart then trust me all bets are off.

  140. Whenever I think ethenasia is a sin, I look at modo and I realize there are no moral absolutes. Probably the most hateful and delusional person on the planet. Whatever she says is meaningless.

  141. Vitter got 1/2 of fame yesterday but msm slams his notorious dealings in with the message…lol… I thought he was going to start hyperventalating and drooling yesterday. His interruption of Hillary’s answer made him look like a fledgling bully in the making ala obama.

  142. wbboei Says:

    January 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    Whenever I think ethenasia is a sin, I look at modo and I realize there are no moral absolutes. Probably the most hateful and delusional person on the planet. Whatever she says is meaningless.

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    I’m surprised she hasn’t eaten herself alive with all the vitrolic hatred she spews, which consumes her.

  143. What if we all spent ten minutes each day hitting all stories pro-bambi with a negative response woul they listen?

  144. henry,

    I’m pretty sure our posts would vanish…ala computer cleansing. Obama and his media hitmen have taken a page from Hitler and his henchmen where information gathering, forced propaganda distribution, and shutting down any desenters are concerned.

  145. that being said, I do believe we should at least try. Even a two second anti-messiah subliminal message will offend and rile.

  146. I watched the entire hearing via my PC yesterday and commented several times herein how incredibly brilliantly Hillary came off….Yet, when I got home and watched the MSM, and read the articles this AM, they only focused n the very minor questioning by Lugar (BO’s fav republican) and the despicable Mr. Vitter….disappointing, but not unexpected.How she and Bill continue to serve this nation despite all the hate reminds me of a quote from of all people President Nixon
    ……….”Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don’t win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself…….”

  147. Hill and Bill have a wonderful spiritual behavior – I hesitate to use the word Christian in these multi-cultural times. However, they demonstrate more ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’ than anyone else I see in DC or elsewhere. Media did horrible things to Bill during Monica. Yet he was always polite (that I could notice.) Not until Hillary was whipping O’s butt and the Big Media became outrageous in its accusations against her did he turn somewhat cross. I don’t blame him. He’ has exercised the patience of a saint for all the years I’ve been a Clinton watcher.

  148. hmmm? what would happen if everyone not buying into the obama myth went to google an ech did 500 dearces about the bithe certificate?

  149. From Fox News (link to follow)

    New York Republicans Want Special Election to Fill Clinton’s Seat

    New York Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco calls for a special election to fill Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat, but acknowledges the bill has little chance of passing.

    AP

    Tuesday, January 13, 2009

    Albany, N.Y. — New York’s Republican Assembly minority wants a special election to fill the expected vacancy in the U.S. Senate instead of allowing Democratic Gov. David Paterson to make a unilateral appointment through a secretive process.

    Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco, a Schenectady Republican, acknowledges a special election could take three months and cost as much as $20 million to seat Hillary Rodham Clinton’s successor. He argues that it’s well worth the effort to avoid diminishing democracy.

    He acknowledges his bill has little chance of passing in the Democrat-controlled Assembly, but says he seeks the same kind of grassroots movement he used to derail former Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s plan to give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/13/new-york-republicans-want-special-election-clintons-seat/

  150. Tuesday, January 13, 2009

    Senate update: Burris to be sworn in Thursday, Franken goes to court

    Roland Burris, the Illinois Democrat who has been fighting for two weeks to join the Senate, says Vice President Dick Cheney will swear him in Thursday at 2 p.m. ET on the Senate floor.

    Thus will end — at least for now — a saga that began more than a month ago when Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested on corruption charges, including trying to auction off President-elect Barack Obama’s Senate seat for money or a job.

    Senate Democratic leaders vowed not to seat anyone appointed by Blagojevich. But Burris — a former state attorney general — wore them down with legal arguments and other tactics.

    The No. 2 Democrat in the chamber, Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, initially called for a special election in his state to replace Obama. A Burris advisory today said Durbin will hold private reception for Burris after he takes the oath to serve.

    Meanwhile, in Minnesota, Democrat Al Franken today asked the state Supreme Court to order state officials to certify him as the state’s new senator and let him to start the job.

    A statewide recount gave Franken a 225-vote victory, but Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie say state law does not allow them to certify him the winner while Republican Norm Coleman contests the recount in court.

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/

  151. When I look at modo I see that slimy, gory, subhuman creature from Tales of The Crypt. When she looks in the mirror she sees the same thing. You cannot miss it. Thus, the self-loathing.

  152. Idunn said: Hopefully Bambi just wants to be the face of America, and is more than happy to let the REAL POTUS be the brains and the heart of this great country as we move forward.
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    I sure hope it’s something like that!

  153. New York Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco calls for a special election to fill Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat, but acknowledges the bill has little chance of passing
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    This is the right move by the Republicans. It strikes a populist nerve.

    By saying no to a general election and by making princess caroline queen (if that is what happens), the dems have established themselves as the party of the elites.

    The anticipated rejection of a call for a special election by the democratically controlled assembly thus ensures that in 2010 when the people do have the right to decide, they will remember how they weree dissed by the dems on both counts.

    Does Patterson understand that?

  154. Paula Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    BTW, everyone should relax about that bill to amend the Constitution. Some legislator introduces this every session, and it never goes anywhere. This has nothing to do with Obama.
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    Thanks, that’s reassuring.

  155. rgb44hrc Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    There’s Part II now at NQ (i’ll provide the link) following the Part I that turndownobama mentioned last night. Here’s the text:
    Obama and the American Lefts: Part II
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    That wasn’t me, but I certainly agree with most of it. EFFECTIVE Centrists like the Clintons and Gore get attacked from BOTH sides. I suspect Palin fell in this category too; she talked rightwing but was obviously effective and had plenty of common sense. (See USA Today old article “Palin governs from the center.”)

  156. rgb quoted from NQ:
    I must admit my surprise at what I have seen. As Clintonista after Clintonista was appointed to government positions I couldn’t believe my eyes. In hindsight, I shouldn’t have been so surprised. Obama’s rise to power – from neighborhood to state district to state and now to nation – has been marked by his development of a loyal band of supporters who help him win at one level only to be discarded as he sets his eyes on a new political prize.
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    I was surprised too, suspicious, but the pattern is different. The only Clintonistas who helped Obama win in November were Bill and Hillary. Then they GOT the big prizes, AFTER they were no longer needed.

    I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop, but these Clintonistas have been officially appointed for the length of Obama’s reign — firing them would make him look silly for having appointed them, so many of them, in the first place. Massacres are for Saturday night, not Monday morning.

    So, looking at Obama’s record — who has he ever NOT thrown under his bus? Has the puppet every served any masters faithfully? — Pehaps the Daley machine?

    Hm, it’s people who already helped him who got thrown under when they were no longer needed. Maybe he still needs help from the Clintonistas? Like, not to make an obvious mess of governing?

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