Obama’s Social Security Treachery

Obama has now revealed what his legacy is to be – the destruction of Social Security.

Ignore the flowery words, Obama is planning a great treachery. Expect PINOs to be silent.

Obama today mouthed another “big speech” on the economy. Ignore it. Obama is doing the ol’ Razzle Dazzle to distract from his real plans.

The Obama economic plan, the so-called “stimulus” – all are stalking horses for the destruction of Social Security.

PINO Big Blogs? We’ve checked – silence. Not a word about the great Obama treachery. [Even the “Hillary supporting” blogs have been strangely silent or more likely unaware or distracted by sideshows such as Roland Burris.]

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Yesterday, Obama spoke about Social Security but he made sure his references would be buried by complicit Big Media when he additionally discussed fluff and nonsense such as the appointment of Nancy Killefer to some silly new fake initiative. Obama also attended a silly luncheon at the White House as part of the Razzle Dazzle ’em treachery.

Having watched Obama closely for so long we are aware to watch out for bamboozlement on the eve of a “big speech”. Obama performed in typical modus operandi. Republicans and conservatives will help Obama by focusing on the “stimulus” proposals (ignoring the Social Security proposals which they like very much) while PINO Big Blogs protect Obama by ignoring what he has said about Social Security. The economic discussion is a charade, a staged play, while Obama off-stage backstabs Social Security.

Here is what happened yesterday which foreshadows the great Obama treachery on Social Security:

Pointing with concern to “red ink as far as the eye can see,” President-elect Barack Obama pledged Wednesday to tackle out-of-control Social Security and Medicare spending and named a special watchdog to clamp down on other federal programs – even as he campaigned anew to spend the largest pile of taxpayer money in history to revive the sinking economy. [snip]

He said Wednesday, without details, that his initial budget proposal next month will include “some very specific outlines” of how he plans to tackle spending. That extends to the ballooning and so-far unsolvable fiscal problem presented by the Social Security and Medicare programs, which Obama promised would be “a central part” of his deficit-reduction plan.

The New York Times was more specific about the planned Obama treachery on Social Security:

President-elect Barack Obama said Wednesday that overhauling Social Security and Medicare would be “a central part” of his administration’s efforts to contain federal spending, signaling for the first time that he would wade into the thorny politics of entitlement programs. [snip]

Speaking at a news conference in Washington, he provided no details of his approach to rein in Social Security and Medicare, which are projected to consume a growing share of government spending as the baby boom generation ages into retirement over the next two decades. But he said he would have more to say about the issue when he unveiled a budget next month.

Should he follow through with a serious effort to cut back the rates of growth of the two programs, he would be opening up a potentially risky battle that neither party has shown much stomach for. The programs have proved almost sacrosanct in political terms, even as they threaten to grow so large as to be unsustainable in the long run. President Bush failed in his effort to overhaul Social Security, and Medicare only grew larger during his administration with the addition of prescription drug coverage for retirees.

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This Big Pink website will not remain silent on the Obama Social Security treachery. We’ve discussed the potential Obama treachery on Social Security for a long time. Yesterday confirmed our suspicions on the Obama Social Security Treachery.

On September 20, 2007 in Barack Obama’s Social Insecurity we explained:

The attempt to destroy Social Security was THE big Bush agenda item for his second term. The failure to pass schemes which were Trojan horses meant to destroy Social Security effectively destroyed the Bush government immediately after it had supposedly won re-election. Karl Rove pushed for the privatization schemes and the other ploys such as “personal” accounts (which were politically meant to shift resources from public program Social Security into “personal” accounts, none of which actually did what they were advertised to do – because the real aim was the destruction of the Democratic and successful New Deal and Social Security). Democrats understood the real purpose behind the Bush proposals and opposed them effectively and in unity.

Back in late 2007 we were not alone (as we are now) in exposing Obama’s potential Social Security Treachery on Social Security. Paul Krugman wrote one month later on October 30, 2007:

As a policy matter, I don’t understand why Obama would choose to make a big deal of the small Social Security funding shortfall — which may not even exist.

As a political matter, I don’t understand why he would essentially try to undermine the first big victory progressives won against the Bush administration and the rightward tilt of the Beltway consensus.

This isn’t 1992. The DLC isn’t the Democratic party’s leading edge. The center isn’t somewhere between Joe Lieberman and John McCain. I can’t understand how Obama can be this out of touch.

Hopefully Paul Krugman will find the cojones to join us on in exposing Obama’s Treachery on Social Security once again.

Paul Krugman on November 16, 2007 on the Barack Obama’s Social Security Treachery when it was a-borning:

Lately, Barack Obama has been saying that major action is needed to avert what he keeps calling a “crisis” in Social Security — most recently in an interview with The National Journal. Progressives who fought hard and successfully against the Bush administration’s attempt to panic America into privatizing the New Deal’s crown jewel are outraged, and rightly so.

But Mr. Obama’s Social Security mistake was, in fact, exactly what you’d expect from a candidate who promises to transcend partisanship in an age when that’s neither possible nor desirable.

To understand the nature of Mr. Obama’s mistake, you need to know something about the special role of Social Security in American political discourse.

Inside the Beltway, doomsaying about Social Security — declaring that the program as we know it can’t survive the onslaught of retiring baby boomers — is regarded as a sort of badge of seriousness, a way of showing how statesmanlike and tough-minded you are.

In that 2007 column Paul Krugman excoriated Tim Russert and Chris Matthews for this exchange on “Hardball”:

Mr. Russert: “Everyone knows Social Security, as it’s constructed, is not going to be in the same place it’s going to be for the next generation, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.”

Mr. Matthews: “It’s a bad Ponzi scheme, at this point.”

Mr. Russert: “Yes.”

Russert has no need to worry about Social Security now that he has departed from this earth. But the enemies of Social Security are now about to move into the White House.

Back in 2007 Paul Krugman had the cojones to call Barack Obama out on Obama’s Treachery on Social Security and explain why Obama is wrong:

How has conventional wisdom gotten this so wrong? Well, in large part it’s the result of decades of scare-mongering about Social Security’s future from conservative ideologues, whose ultimate goal is to undermine the program. [snip]

Fortunately, the scare tactics failed. Democrats in Congress stood their ground; progressive analysts debunked, one after another, the phony arguments of the privatizers; and the public made it clear that it wants to preserve a basic safety net for retired Americans.

That should have been that. But what Jonathan Chait of The New Republic calls “entitlement hysteria” never seems to die. In October, The Washington Post published an editorial castigating Hillary Clinton for, um, not being panicky about Social Security — and as we’ve seen, nonsense like the claim that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme seems to be back in vogue.

Paul Krugman, like other sensible progressives, made too many excuses for Obama back in 2007. Progressives and true Democrats find it hard to believe that treachery on such a massive scale cannot be anything but a “mistake”. We know better. Obama can’t be trusted.

Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. Why would he, in effect, play along with this new round of scare-mongering and devalue one of the great progressive victories of the Bush years?

I don’t believe Mr. Obama is a closet privatizer. He is, however, someone who keeps insisting that he can transcend the partisanship of our times — and in this case, that turned him into a sucker.

Mr. Obama wanted a way to distinguish himself from Hillary Clinton — and for Mr. Obama, who has said that the reason “we can’t tackle the big problems that demand solutions” is that “politics has become so bitter and partisan,” joining in the attack on Senator Clinton’s Social Security position must have seemed like a golden opportunity to sound forceful yet bipartisan.

But Social Security isn’t a big problem that demands a solution; it’s a small problem, way down the list of major issues facing America, that has nonetheless become an obsession of Beltway insiders. And on Social Security, as on many other issues, what Washington means by bipartisanship is mainly that everyone should come together to give conservatives what they want.

We all wish that American politics weren’t so bitter and partisan. But if you try to find common ground where none exists — which is the case for many issues today — you end up being played for a fool. And that’s what has just happened to Mr. Obama.

At the time, back in 2007, we denounced Obama and his potential Social Security Treachery and suggested Obama was a Closeted Ripublican. We wrote then, Enter Obama with a satchel full of Ripublican propaganda and scare tactics aimed at young voters. Barack Obama wants everything “on the table” when it comes to negotiating away Social Security. Barack Obama is not to be trusted….

Krugman is wrong – Obama is no fool. Obama is treacherous. Obama can’t be trusted. He simply can’t be trusted…

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230 thoughts on “Obama’s Social Security Treachery

  1. Yes, now we finally find out why the Reps did not run all that hard in their support of McCain. That is because o shows every sign of being a good Republican, and a fine replacement for Bush II.

    Well, he finally is stating his opinions, but they are being buried, except for Big Pink.

  2. I tried to tell my fools of a family. The only good part of this happening would be my ability to back slam my stoopid brother and say “so, now WHO cut Social Security”….

    I can’t get over the fact that they feel Social Security is an “entitlement” when people pay for it.

    Screw FlimFlam man. He disgusts me

  3. What next Obama? Stealing candy from children? Knocking out the canes of seniors when they cross the street?

  4. It’ll actually be hilarious because the Repub can’t block it in any way due to Nancy’s new law .. they’ll cut Social Security, the Repubs will cry fowl and boast that they “couldn’t” stop it due to the Dimwits own rules .. the repubs will come out looking like they wanted to help but couldn’t .. benefits will go and the dimwits will lose power again. The repubs get what they wanted and the dimwits will take their bitter medicine.

    Haven’t we seen this happen with the dims before. Give them a little power and they get drunk on it.

  5. Admin…Thanks for putting the menace to Social Security front and center.

    I’ve been researching Krugman’s take down of the scare tactics used previously by Bush et al on Social Security. I have another Krugman site you might find useful where Krugman dispels the myth SS is in dire straits and in crisis.

    However, we are aware the SS Trust Fund is the last bastion of resources that has gone unscathed by the Bush Administration. I think? Unless, they’ve pirated that too.

    krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/about-the-social-security-trust-fund/

  6. Admin, as if we need more proof that “Obama simply cannot be trusted.”

    What I resent the most are the scare tactics. The Dims talked down the economy in order to win the election; as a result of the downturn, W cowed the congress into passing the bailouts, amid popular opposition; O is using W’s playbook. So very wrong.

    Dot48: “they feel Social Security is an “entitlement” when people pay for it.” Quite right.

  7. I could be wrong admin, but the attack on Social Security is also a back door slap on women as well.

    Take for instance women “STILL” do not earn as much as men for doing the same job, and their life expectancy is longer than men.

    Who would benefit most by Social Security and Medicare…women of course.

    Times may be changing but women have put their place at the table on the back burner for too long.

  8. what really burns me about benefits though is the SSI. I know generations of people living around me who have NEVER hit a lick at a snake .. they never intend to work and somehow they can pop over to the SS office and get SSI. It gives them a doorway to free phone, free meds, free housing, free foodstamps. I’m talking young kids barely over 18 and they NEVER plan to work.

    I had a bad car wreck, person issues and a nervous breakdown and after 17 years on the job all I got was a “you’ll get medical help and be okay” and you can come back to work after you get better.

  9. a small plug here for unions. unions make it possible for equal pay for equal work and advancement for women and other minorities is easier based on collective bargaining agreements.

    those who hate unions…overtly or otherwise do not relish diversity and equality in the work place. how on earth could they keep the masses in control if they actually had a voice.

  10. debbie, those who hate unions fail to remember the sweat shops. A lot of women worked in those sweat shops.

    SSI: all you have to say to get SSI is that I am an alcoholic, an addict or I am crazy. It is redistribution of wealth.

  11. I LOVE unions. My hubby worked many of his 23 years as union but unfortunately when the last job he had closed and the union mines gone here in WV he worked nonunion. He got hurt and since he was hurt at a non union mines he cannot collect ANY of his United Mine Workers benefits. He paid all those years and can’t get anything at all…this is sorry. Had he been hurt in a union mines I would have been able to have a medical card for life .. now I have none and can’t get insurance due to my medical pre existing conditions.

  12. A tad more info on BO’s BS SS statement.

    Note.. he’s put a women in charge, Nancy Killefer of this newly created department.

    Obama Pledges to Reform Social Security

    the usual web address prefix here as well:

    walletpop.com/article/_a/bbdp/obama-pledges-to-reform-social-security/292240?icid=sphere_wpcom_inline

  13. Three truths are fast becoming self evident to those who have barely paid attention:

    1. Obama is a snake oil salesman

    2. Obama is a big business shill

    3. Obama will destroy the middle class.

  14. I am a big supporter of Unions also, unless they use their powers for the wrong candidate or things.

    It was LBJ who took the SS money, the money paid into this fund, which should still be there, and used it for other things.

    SS IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM, THE FUNDS WERE STOLEN BY ANOTHER DIM., and each administration after continued the policy. This so sounds like the Dims saying O was elected, when he was not.

    The lines between the two parties are really blurry, and they have the public fooled.

    Right now there are people who must pay into SS, that can never pull any retirement from it. How you can get away with that, I will never know.

  15. Krugman is wrong – Obama is no fool. Obama is treacherous. Obama can’t be trusted. He simply can’t be trusted
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    Admin: thank you for having the wisdom to see through this snake oil saleman from the beginning and the courage to talk about it. It is high time people stopped according him the benefit of the doubt, because their are paths from which no one ever returns and I believe he is taking us down one of them although most people do not see it yet. Two years hence more people will see it but the damage to the country by then may be incalcuable. This country is comprised of a vast geograhic expanse and a fair sampling to the races which inhabit this planet. But more than that it is a set of core principles and when we abandon them for the sake of political expediency as he does the country is no longer the one we grew up in. In the broader sense I fear that may be this mans legacy. He reminds me too much of Aaron Burr.

  16. I wonder if this is why the Obamaroids wanted Hillary out of the senate?? Surely she would have raised hell about SS. He now will send her off to Parquay and let us have it!

  17. The ability of the Precious One to mau-mau an election has made him the archetypal Edsal of American politics. He comes to the fore with enormous ballyhoo, promises and pretentious labels (Office of the President Elect) but no substance. Instead, we get flim-flam – the latest version is the ridiculous demand to “Reform” Social Security.
    A – it is not an entitlement if recipients have paid premiums all their working lives.
    B – it is not a major fiscal problem and can be rejuvenated by taking the cap off salaries that pay into the system.
    C – it is a very large fund of savings from American workers which is routinely stolen by federal bookkeepers in
    a pathetic effort to conceal the hideous reality of the deficit they have squandered on our behalf.

    Every time The One starts bloviating about a problem he is going to solve I know we have to watch his “other hand”. You can bet your bippy that he is going to cause a lot more problems than he solves.

  18. Here’s your serving of the ever entertaining and insightful John Kass (link to follow):

    chicagotribune.com
    Obama serves Reid taste of Chicago Way
    John Kass

    January 8, 2009

    So the Chicago Way hauled off and slapped the U.S. Senate in the face—one of those backhands with the knuckles to unsuspecting lips—and guess who blinked?

    It wasn’t Chicago.

    It was the Senate.

    Get used to it, America. And it won’t be the last time either.

    Roland “Tombstone” Burris, the amiable Illinois Democratic political hack who is being called eminently qualified by the national Democrats—perhaps because he’s from Illinois and he hasn’t been indicted—has almost reached his goal of being addressed as “Yes, sir, Senator.”

    Now Tombstone has President-elect Barack Obama behind him, muscling Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid in a phone call earlier in the week. So much for transcending the old politics.

    Only a week ago, Obama, Reid and other Democratic leaders were adamant that they’d block any Senate appointment made by tainted Illinois Gov. Rod “Dead Meat” Blagojevich, who has been charged with trying to sell Obama’s seat to the highest bidder.

    Their statements back then were stern and inflexible, invoking the honor of the Senate and how they’d never let an allegedly corrupt governor put his greasy paws on their august dignity. Those statements weren’t bland. They were so tough they had hair on them. More hair than Blagojevich, even.

    But today’s news is that Obama, often treated by the national media as the gentle Mr. Tumnus of American politics, got privately hardball with Reid over the Tombstone issue.

    According a story in the Tribune by Rick Pearson and Mike Dorning, Obama didn’t want the Chicago Way on parade in Washington, less than two weeks before his inauguration, when he formally becomes the agent of the change we can believe in.

    Obama is perfectly within his rights to try to wriggle out of an embarrassing political situation, and what could be more embarrassing for him than to have Illinois political corruption constantly on the news in Washington?

    People might start asking questions, wondering how Obama could come out of a city run by the wrought-iron fists of the Daley machine but smell like the neck of a baby after a bath.

    I’m still wondering.

    Yet Obama was tricky, not mentioning his phone call to Reid when talking to reporters Wednesday. He said Tombstone was the Senate’s business, not his business.

    “This is a Senate matter. But I know Roland Burris, obviously; he’s from my home state. I think he’s a fine public servant,” Obama said, pulling a 180 on his earlier no-Burris position. “If he gets seated, then I’m going to work with Roland Burris, just like I work with all the other senators.”

    At least Obama had the good grace not to wag his index finger at reporters and bite his lower lip before announcing, “I did not have phone contact with that senator, Harry Reid, never, ever.”

    That’s because he wasn’t asked about Reid.

    Obama almost wasn’t asked anything about Burris on Wednesday. One reporter barely tossed it up at the end, after others asked him about the war in the Gaza Strip (Obama still can’t comment about Gaza because he’s not yet president) and the economy (though he’s not president, you can’t stop the guy from commenting on that one).

    What Obama forgot to mention is that he ordered the Tombstone issue settled because it became his problem. So he told Reid to cave.

    In political terms, Reid rolled up his sleeves, put on his favorite “Kiss the Chef” apron, got his fingers dusty with flour and baked himself a big humble pie. He scarfed it down in front of reporters Wednesday, without a fork, all but licking his fingers, that pie was so sweet and tasty. Mmm-mmm.

    “For me, who had never met the man, it was very enlightening,” oozed Reid, heaping praise on Burris after meeting him for the first time. “He is very engaging, an extremely nice man and he presents himself very well.”

    Reid was joined by another oozer, perhaps the most accomplished public oozer in the Senate, Dick Durbin of Illinois.

    “I’ve known Roland Burris for 36 years in Illinois politics. We have always been friends,” said Durbin, who a few days ago was calling the Burris appointment “an act of political defiance” that “will lead nowhere.”

    Then they agreed that Tombstone would probably get to join their club, and they also agreed that race had nothing to do with it, even though they are Democrats and Blagojevich played the race card as adroitly as Al Sharpton eating soul food with Caroline Kennedy in Harlem.

    Sure, they’re white guys and Burris is African-American, but race had nothing to do with it. It was just procedure and technicalities, they said.

    “People ask a lot of times why we have to do various things procedurally here in the Senate,” Reid told reporters. “It’s because we’re the Senate: That’s how we operate.”

    Correction. That’s how you used to operate. You’re from Nevada, but Obama comes from Chicago.

    It’s sure got to be difficult to eat a big hunk of humble pie when your lips are stinging, but here’s some advice, Senators.

    Have another slice. There’s plenty more.

    jskass@tribune.com

    Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune

  19. Wbboei says:
    “Every time The One starts bloviating about a problem he is going to solve I know we have to watch his “other hand”. You can bet your bippy that he is going to cause a lot more problems than he solves.”
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    Can you say, “three-card monty.” There will be bamboozlement…. count on it.

  20. Admin: here is an email my friend Kroma woman wrote today. She told me I could share it here. It is to Hannity. By the way this is also what the economic minister of Japan told LL several months ago. Get over this mountain, look downrange to the horizon and all you see is the Himalayas. This is yet another reason why Hillary does not want to be in Congress–where her colleagues are all bamboozled, and are deathly afraid to stand up to him. Random sampling could not deliver a worse group of fools and cowards masquerading as leaders.
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    Obama’s ideas on how economic recovery should make anyone who understands Obama, his history, and the history of Japan run screaming in terror. First of all, in the eighties, Japan tried an economic recovery plan that was based on stimulating their recovery by pouring money into rebuilding their infrastructure. It failed. Japan went into a ten year recession.

    Now, let’s discuss Obama’s ideas on cleaning up corruption and pouring money into our infrastructure. In Chicago, public/private partnerships in real estate rehabilitation started when Obama worked for the Davis law firm whose owner,Allison Davis was also a real estate developer and a great friend of Tony Rezko. Starting about 1993 and over the next four years Rezko and his partner Tony Mahru built up a stable of over 30 public housing projects they were supposed to rehabilitate. By 1997, the paperwork they submitted claimed they had finished rehabilitating a 31 unit on the South Side of Chicago called Englewood. Then one of the most brutal winters in recent history set in. Residents in Englewood found themselves without heat. Chicago inspectors turned to Rezko and Mahru, the responsible parties, to get the heat turned on for these people. Rezko and Mahru couldn’t find the money. Their corporation, Rezmar, did find money to contribute to the political fund of the newly elected State Senator, Barack Obama, whose district contained 11 Rezko-Mahru projects, all of whom were in trouble. For his part, Senator Obama loved the idea of public/private partnerships in the housing arena. He co-authored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. And as a presidential candidate he promised to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year. Given the trillion dollar pork package he wants by Jan 21, this is of course chump change and will probably not raise an eye brow.

    However, if that money is well spent, who knows, if might be a good idea. Let’s take a look at the results in Obama’s district. Many of these buildings are beyond repair, many are boarded up, hundreds of the apartments are vacant and in need of repair, and to add injury to insult, the taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

    Because many of Rezko’s disasters were in Obama’s own district he received plenty of complaints. He just didn’t bother to respond to them. So much for his ability or desire to implement oversight.

    One thing Obama does do is reward his friends. Getting past Rezko, Mahru, and Davis, we can turn to a woman named Valerie Jarret. She is Senate Candidate number one in the current complaint against Gov. Blagojevich. She withdrew her name from consideration one day after the Govenor of Illinois discussed her candidacy on tape. Now she is going with Obama to the White House to be part of his staff.

    But then, Jarrett has done a lot for Obama. She was the chief executive officer of Habitat Co., which managed Grove Parc Plaza, (another Rezko special) from 2001 until the winter of 2008 and co-managed an even larger subsidized complex in Chicago that was seized by the federal government in 2006, after city inspectors found widespread problems. Jarrett became a senior adviser to Obama’s presidential campaign and a member of his finance committee. Jarrett is now going to Washington to serve on Obama’s White House staff.

    What is Grove Parc Plaza? It is a 504 apartment complex in what was Obama’s district that is subsidized by the federal government for people who can’t afford to live anywhere else. And one would have to be down and out to live there becuause by any measurable standard, it’s not safe. During the Rezko reign, Grove Parc became a symbol for the failures in of using taxpayer money to partner with private developers to build and manage affordable housing. Obama still thinks this approach is the best replacement for public housing.

    Here are the results of Grove Parc Plaze and perhaps another great example of Obama’s poor judgment.

    Of the 504 units, at Grove Parc Plaza, 20 percent are vacant, but rentable. Many have been rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems due to collapsed roofs and fire damage. The rodent population is out of control and they openly scatter through the hallways. Much of the plumbing leaks continually, is backed up with sewage, or doesn’t work at all. As units became uninhabitable, the tenants became homeless. And the neighborhoods surrounding these disgraces have also deteriorated. Obama claims to have “consistently fought to make livable, affordable housing in mixed neighborhoods available to all.”

    Nice rhetoric. The truth his he fought to get his friends and supporters jobs and tax payer money. Now, he is trying to scare a nation into believing that he will lead us out of the current recession. One need only take a tour of Grove Parc Plaza to understand how little he cares about “the common folk.” And if you need further proof, all you have to do is remember his recent vacation in the 9 million dollar condo in Hawaii. He is good at public speaking. He is good at looking out for his own needs. He is good at getting pork for his his friends and supporters. If we allow him, he will take us all to the cleaners and then go on about his business. Let’s not allow what happened to Grove Parc Plaza and Englewood become the failed infrastucture projects of 2009. We will never be in dire enough straits to need that kind of fix.

  21. Obama in charge is like one 100X sized Titanic heading towards the iceberg at full speed with headlights on but the captain with a blindfold.

  22. I would still like to know how obama paid for his recent Hawaii trip. Is he borrowing from Paul to pay Peter? Will there ever be an audit or will he change the rules and make his term as faux president a life long one?

    After all, the messiah shouldn’t have any restrictions…

  23. admin’s quote of NY Times at top seems to show that the Times is congradulating him for bravery:

    Should he follow through with a serious effort to cut back the rates of growth of the two programs, he would be opening up a potentially risky battle that neither party has shown much stomach for. The programs have proved almost sacrosanct in political terms, even as they threaten to grow so large as to be unsustainable in the long run. President Bush failed in his effort to overhaul Social Security, and Medicare only grew larger during his administration with the addition of prescription drug coverage for retirees.
    &&&&&&

    I didn’t read the whole thing yet, so I may pull an Emily Littela: “Oooh. you mean, it was the complete opposite? Never mind.”

  24. Watching Bill in the Oval Office yesterday just made me sad that Hillary and he won’t reside there during these trying times….Bill Clinton should be made an “Ambassador to the World” …God Bless that man, along with Hillary and Chelsea.

  25. Dem senators criticize O’s stimulus package. Soon they’ll be eating humble pie like Harry Reid, I imagine.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_taxes

  26. moononpluto Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
    Burris Donated Thousands to Blagojevich; Won Contracts

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/roland_burris_donations/2008/12/30/166509.html
    ===========================

    Sounds very slanted. It does not mention that the donations were over a period of 18 years and included donations from Burriss’ family, business, etc. Very little was recent.

    The sourcing and the instigator of the story smells bad too. Didn’t Newsmax use to be a rightwing paper, smearing the Clintons?

  27. admin also wrote up top:
    At the time, back in 2007, we denounced Obama and his potential Social Security Treachery and suggested Obama was a Closeted Ripublican. We wrote then, Enter Obama with a satchel full of Ripublican propaganda and scare tactics aimed at young voters. Barack Obama wants everything “on the table” when it comes to negotiating away Social Security. Barack Obama is not to be trusted….
    &&&&&&&&&&

    …which explains why MSM had its love fest for Obama, sheep in wolf’s clothing, and why big money rolled in to support him (Soros, etc.).

    Just like they did with Bush, who also was another faux populist who promised to “bring change” to Washington, and “clean up how things are done”, and bring transparency, yadda yadda.

    All a big lie.

    All sold with the best marketing money can buy.

    All bought hook line and sinker by a gullible American public, who seem to vote as if it’s a high school popularity contest.

  28. wbboei Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
    I might even have to eventually be graterful for his NOT endorsing HRC
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    Yes. The Messiah has lost his virginity. Of course there are alot of people in Chicago who knew him before he was a virgin.
    =========================

    ROTLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. jbstonesfan Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Watching Bill in the Oval Office yesterday just made me sad that Hillary and he won’t reside there during these trying times….Bill Clinton should be made an “Ambassador to the World”
    ================================

    Maybe it’s wishful thinking silver lining on sour grapes — but I’ve been feeling the same way. As SOS, they are out of the line of fire of the US media. They can find many good things to do abroad and perhaps some of it will ‘trickle in’ to the US.

  30. FOX News:

    How Will Hillary Clinton Fare at Confirmation Hearing?
    Thursday, January 08, 2009

    This is a rush transcript from “America’s News HQ,” January 7, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    JANE SKINNER, HOST: The schedule is now set. Next Tuesday will be Hillary Clinton’s big day. The confirmation hearing for her nomination as secretary of state set for the 13th. Will she face any opposition in the senate she is currently a part of? Let’s bring in former RNP Senior Adviser Terry Holt and former Finance Vice Chair of the DNC Michael Brown as well.

    Terry, if a scrutiny is going to come, it most likely is going to come from Republicans. Do you think it will?

    TERRY HOLT, FORMER RNC SENIOR ADVISER: Well, I don’t think so. I think that Senator Clinton will come very well prepared. She will be asked tough questions about how we will present ourselves in the new administration in the Middle East with respect to Afghanistan war and the Iraq war. I believe, though, that as long as it’s about Hillary Clinton, it will be more of a coronation. It is the 500-pound gorilla in the room, Bill Clinton, that could be the real problem. Bill Clintons’ activities since he left the presidency have included raising boatloads of cash from everywhere around the world, and there may be quite a few questions about what his role will be and how much interference he will cause Hillary Clinton going forward.

    SKINNER: Michael, have they successfully defused that issue of his dealings?

    MICHAEL BROWN, FORMER FINANCE VICE-CHAIR OF DNC: I think so. I think it certainly possibly Senator Clinton could get some questions but I don’t think it is going to derail the nomination, and I don’t know if I would go as far as calling it a coronation, but I think it’s going to be pretty friendly in that chamber, and Senator Clinton is probably one of the smartest people in politics, so, excuse me, she will come very well prepared.

    SKINNER: Michael, I want to say…

    HOLT: Well, and she is considerably to the right, I’m sorry to interrupt.

    SKINNER: No, no go ahead Terry.

    HOLT: She’s considerably to the right of Barack Obama in her support for the war and in her confidence in the American military to project strength in the world. So she is more of a hawk that the administration she is going into and republicans know that.

    SKINNER: Michael, I want to get to the Roland Burris situation and the shift on the part of democratic leaders today in their opposition. This is what Harry Reid said just last month, “Anybody appointed by Governor Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois and as we have said will not be seated by the democratic caucus.” Now it sounds like he’s on his way to supporting this appointment.

    BROWN: Well, like we all know in politics things change from day to day. I think Senator Reid was probably talking to some legal scholars and clearly when you have the congressional black caucus and other democrats that are standing strong in support of soon to be Senator Burris, I think that helped also shape his opinion today, but more importantly, he, I think, is doing what also is right, following democracy and we will see what happens in Illinois and their state houses and see what happens by the end of the week.

    SKINNER: But Terry, if he couldn’t make the case legally, why not come out of that press conference today and just say it? “I can’t make the case legally; I still stand by what I said.” Instead he just tossed it back to the Supreme Court of Illinois and back to the Secretary of State of Illinois” lap and almost empowering him.

    HOLT: It was a total dodge. I mean this has been an embarrassment and a terrible political mistake from the beginning. You know, rob Blagojevich threw a pretty savvy jab at the democrats and at Barack Obama specifically, and they walked straight into the punch. I mean, they don’t have any legal ground to stand on. The last couple of days have been a circus. This place should have been a celebration of total democrats control, the victory in November, and what it was, as you saw the front pages in most of the papers today, it looked like Burris was about to be mugged by the United States Senate, and I think at this point they just want it off the front page.

    SKINNER: Terry Holt and Michael Brown we’re going to have to leave it there, but you know we actually won’t leave it there. There will be developments by the hour so keep it here on FOX and we’ll talk to you guys again, I’m sure. Thank you.

  31. This is a sad day for people who still call themselves Democrats. With BO’s choice of Kaine to head the DNC, the party is now led by someone who opposes Gay rights, opposes stem cell research and believes in gov support for faith based charities. Obama is now going after social security. None of the Harvard brain trust and other media wizards have bothered to point out that my generation of baby boomers created a huge SURPLUS in social security. I believe it was Democrats during the Clinton administration who passed legislation which allowed social security monies to be tapped and then GW squandered our social security funds on a war.

    Howard Dean, who wanted a top cabinet position, has been thrown under the bus with gays, women. But, hey, he well deserves it for cheating and manipulating the primaries for BO.

    I believe that these are dangerous times for our country. It is never good when people gain power thru corruption.

  32. The silence of the PINO Big Blogs and even the “Hillary Blogs” on this Social Security issue is amazing. The Big Blogs that jumped all over George W. right after his reelection when he proposed to privatize Social Security are now silent. Maybe it’s shock, or maybe just stupidity that explains the silence. More likely it is complicity from these fake progressives.

    The silence on Social Security reminded us of this funny video:

  33. This is a sad day for people who still call themselves Democrats. With BO’s choice of Kaine to head the DNC, the party is now led by someone who opposes Gay rights, opposes stem cell research and believes in gov support for faith based charities. Obama is now going after social security.

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    Can’t say we didnt warn them, we warned LGBT that Obama would stick the knife in them when he no longer them after we saw McKlurkin and various others, we warned the womens rights groups, we warned the pensioners, no one listened they thought they knew better but Obama is what Obama is, a snake that uses people to get where he wants and then dumps them, jesus did they not notice how many went under the bus.

  34. Talk about small mercies….

    MSNBC’s Chris Matthews won’t run for Senate

    NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) – After months of will-he or won’t-he speculation, MSNBC “Hardball” host Chris Matthews has opted not to run for the U.S. Senate in his native Pennsylvania.

    Matthews told his producers during a meeting just before Wednesday’s “Hardball” that he isn’t seeking the Democratic nomination for the seat occupied by moderate Republican Arlen Specter, who is up for re-election in 2010.

    One more piece of news I can celebrate.

  35. MO-Senate: Bond to Retire (Open GOP seat in 2010)

    Bond is the third Republican Senator to leave the chamber in 2010 — following Sens. Sam Brownback (Kans.) and Mel Martinez (Fla.) down that path. Democrats are expected to heavily target all three seats.

    The following i suspect will be the most danger of losing seats or are appointments open to challenge.

    Senators Seats (re-elections, retirements, term completions) 2010:

    McCain (AZ) (R)
    Voinovich (OH) (R)
    Gregg (NH) (R)
    Specter (PA) (R)
    Burr (NC) (R)
    Mel Martinez (FL) (R) (retiring – open seat)
    Sam Brownback (KS) (R) (retiring – open seat)
    Kit Bond (MO) (R) (retiring – open seat)

    Bayh (IN) (D)
    Lincoln (AR) (D)
    Dorgan (ND) (D)
    Salazar (CO) (D) (moving to Interior, special election, i guess 2010)
    Reid (NV) (D)
    Clinton (NY) (D) (seat will be filled for the balance of 09-10)
    Biden (DE) (D) (seat will be filled for the balance of 09-10)
    Obama/Burris (IL) (D) (seat will be filled for the balance of 09-10)

  36. Admin: Riverdaughter had a posting about the potential cuts in Social Security. It is a few stories down, since it was posted this a.m.

  37. admin Says:

    January 8th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
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    Also, some bots are saying that BO didn’t say, “cutting” SS, but said “overhauling.” What ever. Lipstick on a pig. Sounds like splitting hairs, but that is what some people are saying. Plus, doesn’t the younger generation want to take away SS? Splitting the generations, is what BO did during the primary.

  38. Carol Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Howard Dean, who wanted a top cabinet position, has been thrown under the bus with gays, women. But, hey, he well deserves it for cheating and manipulating the primaries for BO.

    I believe that these are dangerous times for our country. It is never good when people gain power thru corruption.

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    Yes, Howard Dean was replaced for bigger and better things. After all, he took the Hippocratic Oath… “First Do No Harm.”

    Would you know if he is under the front or the rear axles?

  39. WOW, Blago wanted a cabinet post…..he wanted Dacshles post or an ambassadorship. Oh the details on these tapes are going to be good, i reckon lots of people are going to be snared.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/us/politics/09text-illinois.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all

    Justice Department Briefing on Blagojevich Investigation:
    Patrick Fitzgerald, United States attorney general for the Northern District of Illinois [speaking to press]:
    Published: December 9, 2008

    Excerpts from the transcript:

    Fitzgerald: “In the governor words — governor’s words, quote, ‘Fire all those bleeping people. Get them the bleep out of there. And get us some editorial support,’ close quote. And the bleeps are not really bleeps.”

    (snip)

    “A month or so ago a $1.8 billion tollway project was announced. While that tollway project was being announced, Governor Blagojevich was privately seeking to have a person benefiting from that contract raise $100,000 in contributions, and privately the government (sic) said, ‘I could have made a larger announcement but wanted to see how they would perform by the end of the year. If they don’t perform, bleep ’em.’ That’s a quote. And the word ‘bleep’ was not the word he used.”

    (snip)

    Fitzgerald: The governor’s own words describing the Senate seat, quote, “It’s a bleeping valuable thing — thing. You just don’t give it away for nothing,” close quote.

    Another quote, “I’ve got this thing, and it’s bleeping golden. And I’m just not giving it up for bleeping nothing. I’m not going to do it, and I can always use it; I can parachute me there,” quote. Those are his words, not our characterization, other than with regard to the bleep.

    The tapes reveal that Governor Blagojevich wanted a number of things in exchange for making the appointment to the Senate seat — an appointment as secretary of health and human services or an ambassadorship, an appointment to a private foundation, a higher paying job for his wife or campaign contributions.

  40. “Watching Bill in the Oval Office yesterday just made me sad that Hillary and he won’t reside there during these trying times….Bill Clinton should be made an “Ambassador to the World”

    I concur with the “Ambassador to the World” for our Bill. Bill and Hillary Clinton, just good people who love our country…and a current event here in Ocala Florida is the memorial service for Jett Travolta today. Ocala mourns for John, Kelly, and Ella Bleu Travolta…good people well deserving of the accolades that Ocala’s populace is giving them.

    One less campaign I will have to work against with Tweety deciding not to run – I would have put extra extra passion in working toward his defeat. So, he may be evil, but he is not stupid.

    Tuesday will be a happy day.

  41. Birds of a feather

    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Richardson-gave-money-to-Blagojevich-s-re-election-campaign

    The governors of New Mexico and Illinois have more in common more than just “pay-to-play” controversies over political fund-raising: they’ve also shared some money provided by donors.

    Records show that Richardson’s campaign contributed $20,000 to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s political action committee, Friends of Blagojevich.

    ~~snip~~

    The contribution to Friends of Blagojevich, dated Nov. 6, 2006 — one day before the election — was reported in Dec. 2006 by Richardson’s re-election campaign.

    Richardson won that election with nearly 70 percent of the vote. In that race he raised more than $13 million.

    It’s not uncommon for politicians to contribute to each other’s campaigns. Much of Richardson’s campaign money that year went to other Democrats in New Mexico plus Democratic organizations in states like Iowa and New Hampshire, where Richardson would spend much of the next year campaigning for president.

    Neither Richardson spokesman Gilbert Gallegos nor re-election campaign official Amanda Cooper could immediately be reached for comment.

  42. Oh this is getting good,Blago’s a totally looney tune.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1368377,bob-arya-memo-impeach-panel-blagojevich-010809.article

    The actual pdf file of this man’s memo is nothing short of stunning. Read it by clicking under “related stories” where is says PDF: Read Arya’s memo to the panel

    SPRINGFIELD — When former Chicago television broadcaster Bob Arya joined Gov. Blagojevich’s staff as a senior advisor in November 2006, the governor described him as “a real asset to my administration.”

    But when Arya’s run with Blagojevich came to an end, he had a story to tell — one of intense jealousies by the governor toward President-elect Barack Obama, House Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago) and others, a terrorized staff, and emotional instabilities that Arya said demonstrate the need for a psychological evaluation by the legislative panel weighing the governor’s impeachment.

  43. YAHOO/AP STORY:

    Democrats criticize Obama’s proposed tax cuts

    WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama’s proposed tax cuts ran into opposition Thursday from senators in his own party who said they wouldn’t do much to stimulate the economy or create jobs. Senators from both parties agreed that Congress should do something to stimulate the economy. But Democratic senators emerging from a private meeting of the Senate Finance Committee criticized business and individual tax cuts in Obama’s stimulus plan.

    They were especially critical of a proposed $3,000 tax credit for companies that hire or retrain workers.

    “If I’m a business person, it’s unlikely if you give me a several-thousand-dollar credit that I’m going to hire people if I can’t sell the products they’re producing,” said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., a member of the committee.
    [snip]

  44. Here is the latest from Krugman.

    Now, I’m confused. His analysis of Obama’s Stimulus Plan sounds questionable and bleak.

    Are his figures under or overestimating the effect the Stimulas pkg will have on unemployment?

  45. The turmoil that has beset our political system and its cradle to grave demands of our politicians can be a duplication of past tragedys in our world history.If worst scenarios come true it can happen to you oh great America. Take note


    –failures of the Weimar Republic and the short sightedness of its executives inspired a lack of confidence from the people. Under the command of Adolf Hitler the Nazi party exploited the flaws of the republic in order to come to total power. July 31, 1932 was one of the most important dates in the solidification of Nazi power.[citation needed] Nazi control of the Reichstag was a culminating moment in the death of the Weimar Republic.
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    By ABM90 Speak out for us Hillary

  46. Here is the latest from Krugman.

    Now, I’m confused. His analysis of Obama’s Stimulus Plan sounds questionable and bleak.

    Are his figures under or overestimating the effect the Stimulas pkg will have on unemployment?

    no w’s… for the address. Just the usual..

    krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/stimulus-arithmetic-wonkish-but-important/

  47. The recurring question is how to stop Obama politically before he tanks the country economically. Some things he is proposing could drive us into a depression. That is what alot of people are starting to worry about–at least those I talk to.

  48. Admin, tell me we aren’t the only ones in the world (besides republicans) that notice BHO has not been true to a single thing he has said. You are so right BHO cannot be trusted.

    Obama picks lobbyist as Pentagon No. 2
    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obama_defense_7;_ylt=Alk_9XAwnCPuBSW7bEntRdkGw_IE

  49. Mrs. Smith: what I get out of the Krugman piece is he does not think the government spending program proposed by the admininstration goes far enough to mitigate the deteriorating econmomic situation.

    He suggests that the administration watered down this package in order to get Republican votes. If that is true then he just flunked Negotiation 101.

    The package he proposes is like an opening position in labor negotiation. The governing principle is the higher the better as long as it is credible. Reagan was a master of this and was open about it.

    Bambi on the other hand is clueless. Instead of opening high and giving himself trading material and room to concede, he opens mid range and the oppositon will water him down. Shades of Deval Patrick with a much much larger problem.

    Meanwhile the attack on social security was foreseeable. What better way is there to pay off his wall street backers. For them at least this was the change they had been waiting for. For us, and for elderly people who depend on it to live, he is stepping on their windpipe. His youth supporters will love it.

    I can tell you right now what his legacy will be–the Four (4) Horsemen of Barack Obama.

    1. Race Conflict,

    2. Gender Conflict,

    3. Class Conflict

    4. Age Conflict

    Not the change we the people have been waiting for is it. But try telling it to a bot.

  50. gotta love her…

    Palin: Media goes easy on Kennedy
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090108/pl_politico/17217;_ylt=AsmStWkrzQP9FmZYVHFukDIGw_IE

    last paragraph from article…

    “After being shown a clip of Couric complaining to David Letterman that no post-election interviewer has asked Palin why she would not tell the CBS anchor what newspapers she reads, the Alaska governor responded: “Because, Katie, you’re not the center of everybody’s universe.””

  51. Bill O”Reilly and Laura Ingraham are whining on FOX about enough is enough with the Bush bashing. Oh, really? How many years have they bashed the Clintons in the most vile ways. Guess it is all according to who is pitching or catching, isn’t it?

  52. I’m almost sorry that Matthews has decided not to run for office. It would have been a pleasure to roast him on a spit…figuratively speaking of course.

  53. Some predictions:

    *this man will set race relations back a thousand years.

    *this man will set unemployment to new highs.

    *this man will set gender equality back a thousand years.

    *this man will bankrupt a nation to the furthest extremes possible.

    *this man will shaft every man, woman, and child before he is done.

    No man is an island, but this man is definitely a cesspool of corruption.

  54. wbboei Says:

    January 8th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Thanks, wbb- What threw me was “Krugman was wrong”. I gather what he’s saying is, Krugman was wrong to cover making excuses for Obama not touching Social Security.

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    Obama’s latest appointment Nancy Killefer as head of a new office supposedly as some sort of efficiency expert on Federal spending. She seems destined to be the face taking the flack for Peter Orszag.

    Obama’s pick for OMB puts Social Security in jeopardy

    By Ramón Castellblanch, December 12, 2008

    President-elect Obama’s appointment of Peter Orszag to be director of the Office of Management and Budget has raised the threat level for an attack on Social Security to orange.

    While Orszag has taken thoughtful positions on a number of policies, three years ago he came up with a plan for Social Security that would cut its benefits to all workers under age 55 – hitting people harder the younger they are.

    In addition to penalizing youth, his proposal would introduce means-testing into the Social Security benefit structure, which would result in lower Social Security benefits for higher-income retirees. While means-testing might sound fair, the Social Security definition of higher income could change over time and, eventually, many of us could find ourselves ineligible for full benefits.

    Orszag’s plan would undermine support for Social Security. People getting less from Social Security would be less likely to support it, eroding its political base.

    Social Security already has problems in getting support from younger workers. Many of them erroneously assume there will be no Social Security money for them so they’ll just have to work until they die. The Orszag plan would reinforce this misconception.

    Right now, Social Security functions well because it is universal: Almost everyone gets it on an equal basis. Voters broadly support it and strongly react against any frontal assault on its benefit structure.

    We need to safeguard our own retirement — and our children’s. We need policies that build Social Security, not tear it down.

    If anything, we should be looking for ways to get more people and money into it, strengthening it financially and politically.

    People with private plans should be allowed to use their savings to buy in.

    Needed revenue for Social Security should be raised by taxing incomes that are currently exempt. Today, the government imposes Social Security taxes on incomes up to only $102,000. All those CEOs making tens of millions of dollars get a huge break: Unlike most Americans, they don’t have to pay Social Security taxes on the lion’s share of their income.

    President-elect Obama should be lowering the threat level against Social Security. But Orszag’s plan to cuts benefits is the wrong way to do it.

    Ramón Castellblanch is an associate professor of health education at San Francisco State University.

    progressive.org/mp/castellblanch121208.html

  55. JanH,

    O is putting us on the road to becoming a third world nation. You can tell with the Euro, Europe is rising, and they have already settled the health Care problem, they have large unions, and there money is worth more than ours. When I lived there even the lowest person got the Month of August off to go to where ever.

    So tell me that Capitalism that we now have it working. It is only working for the CEOs, and the Politics that keep it going.

    As Lou Dobbs stated, we are killing the middle class, and O will continue to kill it. Without the middle class, our promising way of life will disappear.

  56. All those CEOs making tens of millions of dollars get a huge break: Unlike most Americans, they don’t have to pay Social Security taxes on the lion’s share of their income.
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    With Obama the fat cats make out like pigs and the middle income and low income constituents get led to the slaughter. Anyone familiar with his history in Chicago knows what to expect from this snake oil salesman. Those who are not are in for a rude awakening. They deserve it. We dont.

  57. wbboei Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    With Obama the fat cats make out like pigs and the middle income and low income constituents get led to the slaughter. Anyone familiar with his history in Chicago knows what to expect from this snake oil salesman. Those who are not are in for a rude awakening. They deserve it. We dont.

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    With Caroline sitting in the NY Seat, she will vote ‘yes’ for anything Obama floats and NY’ers will get nada.

  58. Howard Dean, who wanted a top cabinet position, has been thrown under the bus with gays, women. But, hey, he well deserves it for cheating and manipulating the primaries for BO.
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    Dean will be lucky if the American People do not come after him with pitchforks. He, Brazille and Pelosi are traitors to the party and to the country. That much is clear.

  59. With Caroline sitting in the NY Seat, she will vote ‘yes’ for anything Obama floats and NY’ers will get nada.
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    Strategically, that could provide a rallying cry that will bring down Kennedy in 2010 and Obama by 2012. Especially, when it has his fingerprints on it.

    Everything is in play now. As President he will be on the hot seat. The poker hand he will be holding after January 20 is a losing hand and patience will run short. We live in a real time world and the operative question is what have you done for me lately. Action or inaction will speak louder than words. It will be harder than he thinks to end partisan rancor. That is when he will reactivate the race card.

  60. The genesis of all the facts and figures on Health Care, Social Security, Tax Plans, Infrastructure is coming from George Soros’ Brookings Institute.

    h’s and w’s

    brookings.edu/papers/2005/04saving_diamond.aspx

  61. wbboei Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Strategically, that could provide a rallying cry that will bring down Kennedy in 2010 and Obama by 2012. Especially, when it has his fingerprints on it.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I don’t see why it shouldn’t get play from now until Tuesday/Wednesday, Hillary’s confirmation.

  62. Here is Soros private Think Tank website.

    h’s

    wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/

    Info you never see or hear mainstream.

  63. During the campaign, three presidential candidates came out and supported obama. And where are they now?

    1. John Edwards- O promised him the Attorney General position. He resigned in disgrace following disclosure of an affair while his wife is dying of cancer.

    2. William Richardson- O appointed him Secretary of Commerce. He resigned in disgrace following the disclosure that a grand jury is looking into possible bribery.

    3. Chris Dodd- O used him to attack Hillary and demand she quit the race before 5.2 million democrats had voted. While Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee he received preferential consideration on a personal loan and failed to exercise proper oversight which contributed to the financial debacle.

    I hope each of these distinguished gentlemen has a prominent place at this pukefest on January 20. Jointly and severally they betrayed the country and helped get him to where he is.

  64. I’m almost sorry that Matthews has decided not to run for office. It would have been a pleasure to roast him on a spit…figuratively speaking of course.

    My thoughts exactly. A devastating loss might have shut him up.

  65. Illinois: thanks for posting the Kass article. He is the kind of reporter we like. He does not talk about speaking truth to power and then never do it. He does it and because he does we understand what is really happening. I get so damned tired of the Big Lid from Obama and alot of little lies from the Republicans (like Tony Blankley–Newts guy at Washington Times) is good to find people like Admin and Kass who just tell you the truth.

  66. “Records show that Richardson’s campaign contributed $20,000 to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s political action committee, Friends of Blagojevich.”

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    If there is such a thing as “political incest” the dims are rampant with it.

  67. I wonder if this is why the Obamaroids wanted Hillary out of the senate?? Surely she would have raised hell about SS. He now will send her off to Parquay and let us have it!
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    Confloyd: I think she saw this coming, knew she could not support it but neither could she stop it–because her colleagues do not have the intestinal fortitude to resist him.

    I firmly believe the Chicago Machine has dossiers on most key people in Congress–democrats and republicans. You would be amazed what is for sale in that town. If they have information they will use it when circumstances warrant. As a result, you cannot count on colleagues when the chips are down. And without their support you can be right but you are a voice in the wilderness. Plus, you can no longer count on the media to publish the truth.

  68. Kass is definitely a keeper.

    “In political terms, Reid rolled up his sleeves, put on his favorite “Kiss the Chef” apron, got his fingers dusty with flour and baked himself a big humble pie. He scarfed it down in front of reporters Wednesday, without a fork, all but licking his fingers, that pie was so sweet and tasty. Mmm-mmm.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hillary is much better off away from what is to come. The last thing Al Gore said before Bush appointed himself President was, “He’s going to wreck the economy.”.. He was right.

  69. wbboei

    To me it appear obvious that they have something on everyone, and they use these people, and then leak the information and throw them under the bus.

    The question is, do the dims have the guts and fortitude to blow the whisle on them to stop the bulling within their own party, or is the abuse that is going on something they are willing to suffer for the opportunity to be in POWER.

    What the dims don’t understand, which many abuse women don’t understand, is it is better to support your democracy (live with out the abuser), than to be in power (relationship) with a bunch of bullies (or bully)calling the shots.

  70. From cnn.com

    January 7, 2009
    Porn industry seeks federal bailout
    Posted: 05:27 PM ET

    From CNN’s Rebecca Sinderbrand and Mark Preston

    Larry Flynt is asking for a bailout.
    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Another major American industry is asking for assistance as the global financial crisis continues: Hustler publisher Larry Flynt and Girls Gone Wild CEO Joe Francis said Wednesday they will request that Congress allocate $5 billion for a bailout of the adult entertainment industry.

    “The take here is that everyone and their mother want to be bailed out from the banks to the big three,” said Owen Moogan, spokesman for Larry Flynt. “The porn industry has been hurt by the downturn like everyone else and they are going to ask for the $5 billion. Is it the most serious thing in the world? Is it going to make the lives of Americans better if it happens? It is not for them to determine.”

    Francis said in a statement that “the US government should actively support the adult industry’s survival and growth, just as it feels the need to support any other industry cherished by the American people.”

    “We should be delivering [the request] by the end of today to our congressmen and [Secretary of the Treasury Henry] Paulson asking for this $5 billion dollar bailout,” he told CNN Wednesday.

    Flynt and Francis concede the industry itself is in no financial danger — DVD sales have slipped over the past year, but Web traffic has continued to grow.

    But the industry leaders said the issue is a nation in need. “People are too depressed to be sexually active,” Flynt said in the statement. “This is very unhealthy as a nation. Americans can do without cars and such but they cannot do without sex.”

    “With all this economic misery and people losing all that money, sex is the farthest thing from their mind. It’s time for congress to rejuvenate the sexual appetite of America. The only way they can do this is by supporting the adult industry and doing it quickly.”

    So far, there has been no congressional reaction to the request.

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    Well there you have it folks!

  71. I don’t think the obama team knows the meaning of respect, period. I agree that Dean isn’t to be trusted by anyone, but this seems to be a growing pattern…first Feinstein…then…

  72. # hillarygirl Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Lei-off: Obama snubs Deanhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17254.html

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Dean was 7,023 miles and seven time zones away, closer to French Polynesia than Washington, doing party grunt work in American Samoa”

    “The snub today was no accident,” said one Dean ally. “I guarantee you he would have rescheduled his trip if asked to attend. It’s easy to [screw] over people when you are riding high in the polls, let’s see how many people are singing his praises in six months.”

    The Deaniacs must be ballistic over this..

  73. The question is, do the dims have the guts and fortitude to blow the whisle on them to stop the bulling within their own party, or is the abuse that is going on something they are willing to suffer for the opportunity to be in POWER.
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    No. Not a chance. No more than the Republicans who knew Bush was wrong were willing to stand up to him. Only this guy may turn out to be even worse. I expect that most people would laugh at my statement now, which is fine. We shall see if they are still laughing two years hence.

    The one who may blow the lid off this thing is Rezko, Blago, Blagos assistant, and all the people who have come forward since Fitz went public. Jarrett and Emile Jones are important targets, and both of them lead directly to Obama. Pritsker too.

    It is critical that Fitzgerald retain the power and the independence to pursue that investigation to completion, without disclosure or obstruction by Obama and his minions. Ideally, he will be appointed Special Prosecutor.

    Bambi is like the little boy with all of his fingers and toes in the dike, and it is springing more and more holes in it.

  74. wbboei Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    The one who may blow the lid off this thing is Rezko, Blago, Blagos assistant, and all the people who have come forward since Fitz went public.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Blago’s attorneys have filed papers to get Fitz OFF the case.

    See: pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

  75. There is so much going on, it’s hard to keep up. Everything is either at a fever pitch or in crisis.

    night all-

  76. Blago’s attorneys have filed papers to get Fitz OFF the case.
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    which will go nowhere/

    I imagine they are claiming prejudice because he went public with some information prior to filing an indictment, but it was to prevent a crime from being prevented. If the had failed to do so then Jesse Jackson would have bought the seat by now or one of the other corrupt people mentioned above would have been seated.

  77. “The snub today was no accident,” said one Dean ally. “I guarantee you he would have rescheduled his trip if asked to attend. It’s easy to [screw] over people when you are riding high in the polls, let’s see how many people are singing his praises in six months.”
    ————————————–
    The business saying be nice to people on the way up because you will meet them again on the way down applies here. Sic transit gloria mundi baby.

  78. An interesting article though I could not find a comment string:

    “The notion that I have to take Caroline is not coming from me,” Paterson said in an interview in his Capitol office with The Buffalo News. He said “gossip” has become a “greater force right now than my decision.”
    “What I would say is that, to the media, it’s Caroline and the others. To me, it’s there are 10 to 15 good candidates,” said the governor [….]

    “One thing that helps her is the tremendous attention that [the media gives] her works to her advantage. Maybe if [the media] didn’t give her so much attention she wouldn’t have it,” Paterson said. He said certain people, such as Clinton, have an advantage “just because of who they are.”

    “So I would ask the question back, why [does the media] pay so much attention to her? She’s just another person. So what? Her name is Kennedy? Why do you pay so much attention to her? I’m not reacting to what I think, I’m reacting to what I see,” he said.

    “But, on the other hand, her lack of elected experience does not help her, but the point is it’s the combination of experiences I’ll look at in terms of all the candidates, and also how balanced the ticket would look,” Paterson added.

    More on other candidates at the full story at:

    h … w

    buffalonews.com/home/story/543453.html

  79. The chickens are rushing back to roost and the big rooster is at the podium ready to enter the henhouse.The problem is that he is really the Fox and ready to create mayhem.
    Folks what you saw and heard yesterday from a teleprompter and read by silver tongued stealth pres.to be is the slow destruction of a democracy that was the envy of the world and our foreign bankers lik China are waiting for his coronation and the calling in of the notes will begin.They will give us a lesson on how to operate sweatshops to supply them with goods while we slide down the slippery slope of financial ruin.
    Hail to the thief and his platform of restitution and retribution that froze a strong nation into a toothless fearful racial cesspool.
    Yesterday we saw a ruthless impatient egomaniac defying all who would oppose and blame him for the destruction he has and will cause to this once great nation.Sunshine has turned to darkness and fear has taken over the populance of far greater numbers of suckers that he had predicted.
    He is no longer the turtle on the fence post for we now know how he got up there.He is now the big rooster in the Oval Office come Jan 20.Grin and bear it folks your greed let it happen.

    BY ABM90 THank God for Hillary our Joan of Arc.

    “IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO SAVE OUR VILLAGE”

  80. Good Morning ABM90

    I could not agree more. His solution to this countries finanacial problems, which has been living beyonds it means, will to be to continue the life style he has promised, even if that mean selling us to the Chinese. He sold his soul to Rezko for a wonderful house they could not afford, and he will sell this nation to the highest bidder.

    He has no major financial training at any level, and his personel method of living beyond his means was to get the $s where ever he could. He will not change.

    It is like they say when you get married, you need to love all the faults, because after the mariage, those faults will still be there and in some cases have become worse.

  81. One thing that helps her is the tremendous attention that [the media gives] her works to her advantage. Maybe if [the media] didn’t give her so much attention she wouldn’t have it,” Paterson said. He said certain people, such as Clinton, have an advantage “just because of who they are.”
    ————————————
    Stupid example for two reasons:

    1. to compare the fairy tale coverage the useless media has accorded to the princess with the character assassination they have directed at Hillary is a non sequitir.

    2. to compare the lack of job related experience in politics in the case of the pincess with the long and distinguished resume of Hillary–which he does through this ridicuous example is once again a non-sequitir.

    That said if the experiece thing is back in the picture, then so much the better. Surely he knows that the publicity in Kennedys case is bought and payed for rather than a naturally occurring phenomeon.

  82. From NY Times:

    Seeking Clinton’s Seat, Would-Be Senators Provide Exhaustive Background Details

    By DANNY HAKIM and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
    Published: January 8, 2009

    ALBANY — Gov. David A. Paterson continued to play down suggestions that he has already decided upon Caroline Kennedy to replace Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, as candidates seeking the appointment submitted lengthy vetting forms to the governor’s office on Thursday.

    Ms. Kennedy and at least half a dozen others turned in the background forms, according to people involved in the selection process. The forms seek information about everything from past arrests and tax problems to children’s Facebook pages.

    However, aides to one the highest-profile potential candidates, Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, declined to say whether he had done so, which would be the clearest signal yet of whether Mr. Cuomo truly wishes to be considered for the vacancy.

    The attorney general has been reluctant to publicly express an interest in the Senate seat since President-elect Barack Obama selected Mrs. Clinton to be his secretary of state. But at least one member of Mr. Cuomo’s staff has reached out to political leaders to discuss the vacancy.

    Other candidates who sent in the background applications were Representatives Steve Israel, Carolyn B. Maloney, Kirsten E. Gillibrand and Jerrold L. Nadler, as well as Thomas R. Suozzi, the Nassau County executive, and Assemblyman Daniel J. O’Donnell.

    The governor stressed in interviews on Thursday that he had not made up his mind and that the race was still wide open. Of course, time is running short for the governor, since Mrs. Clinton’s Senate confirmation hearing is scheduled to begin on Tuesday.

    “She has pluses and minuses,” he said of Ms. Kennedy in an interview on WOR radio, adding that she “has a tremendous relationship with the president and that’s certainly a plus. She does not have much legislative experience, which is a minus.”

    He also told The Buffalo News, “The notion that I have to take Caroline is not coming from me,” adding: “To the media, it’s Caroline and the others. To me, it’s there are 10 to 15 good candidates.”

    The governor’s office has kept the process largely secret, refusing to release a blank copy of the forms that were sent to candidates and saying the completed forms will be kept confidential.

    But a copy of the form obtained by The New York Times outlines the detailed information being sought by the governor, in an apparent effort to avoid the kinds of scandals that have toppled state and federal politicians in recent history, from tax problems to criminal behavior.

    The questionnaire asks candidates whether they have hired illegal immigrants, written controversial blogs or ever failed to file tax returns. The addresses for their children’s Facebook or MySpace pages were requested.

    There are also questions connected to recent news events. The candidates must disclose, for example, whether they have participated “in any investment program run by Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities” or any affiliation they or family members have with any financial, insurance or mortgage firms that have been the targets of investigation or recipients of aid during the current fiscal crisis.

    Also required are details of the business interests of each candidate’s spouse or domestic partner.

    Whoever ultimately prevails in the competition for the Senate seat, one thing is sure: Mr. Paterson and his aides will have obtained an extraordinary amount of information about the other political figures.

    Contenders must agree, for example, to have their finances audited by the state’s Department of Taxation and Finance and to release to the administration any findings by any law enforcement agency or disciplinary body in a proceeding against them.

    Barbara Bartoletti, the legislative director of the League of Women Voters in New York State, criticized the governor’s decision to keep the questionnaires secret.

    “That is extraordinarily troubling,” Ms. Bartoletti said. “There is no reason why the governor’s office doesn’t release this type of form, before it’s completed and after it’s completed.”

    She added: “The problem we’ve been getting into is that there is not enough transparency in vetting of high-level positions. It would have gone a great distance in mitigating many issues that have befallen senators from Alaska to Illinois.”

    Also on Thursday, Politico.com reported that Gov. Sarah Palin suggested that Ms. Kennedy might be receiving gentler coverage than Ms. Palin herself did after she was introduced to the nation as the Republican vice-presidential candidate.

    “I’ve been interested to see how Caroline Kennedy will be handled and if she will be handled with kid gloves or if she will be under such a microscope,” Ms. Palin told a filmmaker in an interview posted on YouTube on Wednesday evening, according to Politico. “It’s going to be interesting to see how that plays out, and I think that as we watch that, we will perhaps be able to prove that there is a class issue here also that was such a factor in the scrutiny of my candidacy versus, say, the scrutiny of what her candidacy may be.”

  83. Can’t help but wonder what must go through the minds of Brazille et al when Howard Dean is so publicly dissed and dismissed by New Beloved Leader. Their turn must surely come. Precious has not yet developed a reputation for fairness or loyalty and a lot of the bots are going to find that out first hand – to their lasting distress.

    I know it is small of me to say so, but it is a joy to see some of these perverse DNC ward heelers really take a shock like Howie did. If this parade keeps up, The One may not be able to count on many people in a very short while. Where would he be without all these idiot enablers?

  84. From bloomberg.com

    Obama, Clinton Plan to Retrieve Ex-Envoys, Keep Bush Official

    By Viola Gienger and Indira A.R. Lakshmanan

    Jan. 9 (Bloomberg) — President-elect Barack Obama and his designated secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, will pull veteran negotiators back into the ranks and keep at least two top Bush administration officials as they prepare to confront conflicts in Afghanistan and the Middle East.

    William Burns, who is third-ranked at the State Department and wins accolades from Democratic and Republican lawmakers alike, will stay on as undersecretary for political affairs, according to people familiar with the transition.

    Former United Nations Ambassador Richard Holbrooke will return to government as a special envoy on South Asia regional issues related to Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Dennis Ross, a former top diplomat under Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton who helped shepherd negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians in the 1990s, will return to advise on the Middle East, the people said.

    Obama is shaping his top diplomatic corps to turn national security and foreign policy attention toward Afghanistan as troops withdraw from Iraq. Their top tasks also will include tackling the frequently erupting Middle East and managing Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

    Most top State Department appointments are subject to Senate confirmation, including Clinton and the deputy secretaries of state that Obama announced last month, James Steinberg and Jacob Lew. Clinton’s confirmation hearing is scheduled for Jan. 13 before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The panel ultimately will vote whether to send the nomination to the full Senate.

    Senate Confirmation:

    Certain envoys and advisers may not need Senate confirmation. Brooke Anderson, a spokeswoman for the Obama transition, declined to comment on the possible appointments.

    Holbrooke, 67, is a veteran diplomat who has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize seven times. Chief architect of the 1995 Dayton Peace Agreement that ended the war in Bosnia, Holbrooke also has been ambassador to Germany.

    Holbrooke was an early and vocal supporter of Clinton’s run for president, throwing his support to Obama only after the Illinois senator secured the nomination.

    Currently he is vice chairman of Perseus LLC, a Washington- based private equity firm, and chairman of the non-profit Asia Society and the American Academy in Berlin.

    Nancy Soderberg, a former senior White House official under President Clinton, said the pick shows “Obama wants to surround himself with strong, experienced people.”

    “I think Pakistan is the most dangerous place on earth, and I think Afghanistan is going to be the biggest challenge Obama is going to face, so it makes sense to put your strongest player there,” said Soderberg, who was also one of Holbrooke’s ambassadors at the United Nations mission. “It was fascinating to watch him take an issue and get everyone to say yes.”

    Dennis Ross, 60, another veteran diplomat, played a leading role in the Middle East peace process for a dozen years under both Republican and Democratic presidents, and knows the players on both sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

    Ross has worked closely with Republican and Democratic secretaries of state, including James Baker, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright. Ross, currently a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, declined to comment through an assistant.

    Even a figure often at odds with U.S. policy, Syrian Ambassador Imad Moustapha, called Ross a “pragmatic, realistic person.”

    While Israel is Ross’s primary interest, “he understands that he can serve Israel by trying to make peace between Israel and their foes,” Moustapha said.

    The Senate approved President George W. Bush’s nomination of Burns, 52, as undersecretary almost a year ago, and he wouldn’t require a second vetting. A former ambassador to Russia, Burns also has experience in the Middle East, having served as a negotiator and a U.S. ambassador to Jordan.

    Vice President-elect Joe Biden lauded Burns during testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in July. “It may hurt your reputation, but you’re among friends here,” said Biden, the chairman of the panel, told Burns as he prepared to testify on relations with Iran. “There’s a great deal of respect for you on both sides of the aisle.”

    Syria’s Moustapha said retaining Burns would be “extraordinarily wonderful.”
    “He was among the most thoughtful of American diplomats that I have ever met in my life,” Moustapha said. “He thought of how can he engage Syria in a way that would serve the United States’ national interest as well as our national interest.”

    Burns was tapped to attend talks between Iran and the European Union in Geneva in July. The move represented a shift in the Bush administration’s practice of refusing to participate in even preliminary discussions with Iran over its nuclear program until it suspends uranium enrichment, a process that can produce energy or lead to an atomic bomb. Burns is on leave and was unavailable for comment.

    Clinton is expected to name her husband’s former deputy national economic adviser, Lael Brainard, as undersecretary for economic affairs, according to a person familiar with the transition appointments. Brainard represented the Obama campaign at an October trade conference in Washington. She is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington.

    Appointments at the next level down, assistant secretary, probably will include former Clinton administration national security official Kurt Campbell for East Asia and the Pacific, the person said. Former National Security Council Europe director Philip Gordon, currently a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington, probably will be named assistant secretary for European affairs.

    Campbell, co-founder of the Center for a New American Security, would replace Christopher Hill, who also has been the Bush administration’s chief negotiator on North Korea’s nuclear program. The two positions might be split in the new administration.

    Campbell didn’t respond to a request for comment. Brainard and Gordon didn’t return messages seeking comment after regular business hours.

  85. JanH Says:

    January 8th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
    From cnn.com

    January 7, 2009
    Porn industry seeks federal bailout
    Posted: 05:27 PM ET

    From CNN’s Rebecca Sinderbrand and Mark Preston

    Larry Flynt is asking for a bailout.
    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Another major American industry is asking for assistance as the global financial crisis continues: Hustler publisher Larry Flynt and Girls Gone Wild CEO Joe Francis said Wednesday they will request that Congress allocate $5 billion for a bailout of the adult entertainment industry.
    &&&&&

    This is probably Flynt’s idea of satire. He’s a smart guy. I get the joke.

    “If the porn industry can get by, and live by free market capitalism rules, then why can’t other industries?”

    As for the argument that the US needs specific types of manufacturing industries, such as auto builders, so that they will have a ready made factory infrastructure should a war suddenly arise, perhaps it is time to rethink how government builds its war machine, that it needs to plan better.

  86. wbboei Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Mrs. Smith: what I get out of the Krugman piece is he does not think the government spending program proposed by the admininstration goes far enough to mitigate the deteriorating econmomic situation.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, I agree. If BO miscalculates the money by 100’sB’s needed for this 2nd Bail-out, it could be the equivalent of a backfire they use for a runaway forest fire. We could go poof in an instant.

  87. Mrs. Smith Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 12:42 am
    “The snub today was no accident,” said one Dean ally. “I guarantee you he would have rescheduled his trip if asked to attend. It’s easy to [screw] over people when you are riding high in the polls, let’s see how many people are singing his praises in six months.”

    The Deaniacs must be ballistic over this..
    &&&&&

    I thought the Dean Team kinda morphed into Team Obama…you know, the whole Inspirational Internet Idiocy Candidacy.

  88. Dean has always been a bit of a loose canon, so it might be interesting to see how this plays out. He does not fit the Dims mold always.

  89. hillarygirl Says:

    January 8th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
    Lei-off: Obama snubs Dean

    …had a link to politico.com, which at the end had this:

    But, showing a flash of the old, off-message Dean, the outgoing chairman couldn’t help but crack wise about just one of the new president’s challenges.

    “You gotta hand it to Blagojevich,” said Dean of the embattled Illinois governor’s brazen appointment of Roland Burris to succeed Obama in the Senate. “What a maneuver! What a maneuver! When his back was against the wall he outsmarted a lot of people.”
    &&&&&&

    Nice burn.

  90. As the Miami Herald quoted me first after the April trip to the DNC to protest for full FL [and MI] votes, I called ‘Howard the Coward’ and, he is and was just that – a coward for not standing up against disenfranchising voters in any state much less in two key states. He actually implemented [or helped], full disenfranchisement of those voters. And as I have said many times, I will not forget those who voted me half a person.

    I suppose that Howard Dean failed to address the Huckster with ‘Heil, Huckster!’ It is juicy to see Edwards, Dean, Reid, Tweety and others get just what was coming to them. They sold their souls to the devil and they did not even go down to Georgia to do it. I can hardly wait for oprah and brazile and pelosi et al to get their own choice of three doorways to a timely demise. It is not like I, and many others, did not fore warn them time and time and time again.

  91. THE “KRUGSTER” IS “SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED” W/ BO’S PLANS.

    (In other words, he’d be a lot angrier if he didn’t feel responsible for foisting Obama on us?)

    The Obama Gap
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Published: January 8, 2009

    “I don’t believe it’s too late to change course, but it will be if we don’t take dramatic action as soon as possible. If nothing is done, this recession could linger for years.”

    So declared President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday, explaining why the nation needs an extremely aggressive government response to the economic downturn. He’s right. This is the most dangerous economic crisis since the Great Depression, and it could all too easily turn into a prolonged slump.

    But Mr. Obama’s prescription doesn’t live up to his diagnosis. The economic plan he’s offering isn’t as strong as his language about the economic threat. In fact, it falls well short of what’s needed.

    Bear in mind just how big the U.S. economy is. Given sufficient demand for its output, America would produce more than $30 trillion worth of goods and services over the next two years. But with both consumer spending and business investment plunging, a huge gap is opening up between what the American economy can produce and what it’s able to sell.

    And the Obama plan is nowhere near big enough to fill this “output gap.”

    Earlier this week, the Congressional Budget Office came out with its latest analysis of the budget and economic outlook. The budget office says that in the absence of a stimulus plan, the unemployment rate would rise above 9 percent by early 2010, and stay high for years to come.

    Grim as this projection is, by the way, it’s actually optimistic compared with some independent forecasts. Mr. Obama himself has been saying that without a stimulus plan, the unemployment rate could go into double digits.

    Even the C.B.O. says, however, that “economic output over the next two years will average 6.8 percent below its potential.” This translates into $2.1 trillion of lost production. “Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its full capacity,” declared Mr. Obama on Thursday. Well, he was actually understating things.

    To close a gap of more than $2 trillion — possibly a lot more, if the budget office projections turn out to be too optimistic — Mr. Obama offers a $775 billion plan. And that’s not enough.

    Now, fiscal stimulus can sometimes have a “multiplier” effect: In addition to the direct effects of, say, investment in infrastructure on demand, there can be a further indirect effect as higher incomes lead to higher consumer spending. Standard estimates suggest that a dollar of public spending raises G.D.P. by around $1.50.

    But only about 60 percent of the Obama plan consists of public spending. The rest consists of tax cuts — and many economists are skeptical about how much these tax cuts, especially the tax breaks for business, will actually do to boost spending. (A number of Senate Democrats apparently share these doubts.) Howard Gleckman of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center summed it up in the title of a recent blog posting: “lots of buck, not much bang.”

    The bottom line is that the Obama plan is unlikely to close more than half of the looming output gap, and could easily end up doing less than a third of the job.

    Why isn’t Mr. Obama trying to do more?

    Is the plan being limited by fear of debt? There are dangers associated with large-scale government borrowing — and this week’s C.B.O. report projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for this year. But it would be even more dangerous to fall short in rescuing the economy. The president-elect spoke eloquently and accurately on Thursday about the consequences of failing to act — there’s a real risk that we’ll slide into a prolonged, Japanese-style deflationary trap — but the consequences of failing to act adequately aren’t much better.

    Is the plan being limited by a lack of spending opportunities? There are only a limited number of “shovel-ready” public investment projects — that is, projects that can be started quickly enough to help the economy in the near term. But there are other forms of public spending, especially on health care, that could do good while aiding the economy in its hour of need.

    Or is the plan being limited by political caution? Press reports last month indicated that Obama aides were anxious to keep the final price tag on the plan below the politically sensitive trillion-dollar mark. There also have been suggestions that the plan’s inclusion of large business tax cuts, which add to its cost but will do little for the economy, is an attempt to win Republican votes in Congress.

    Whatever the explanation, the Obama plan just doesn’t look adequate to the economy’s need. To be sure, a third of a loaf is better than none. But right now we seem to be facing two major economic gaps: the gap between the economy’s potential and its likely performance, and the gap between Mr. Obama’s stern economic rhetoric and his somewhat disappointing economic plan.

  92. Lei-off: Obama snubs Dean
    By JONATHAN MARTIN | 1/8/09 8:13 PM EST
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    The conspicuous absence of Howard Dean from Thursday’s press conference announcing Tim Kaine’s appointment as Democratic National Committee chairman was no accident, according to Dean loyalists.

    Rather, they say, it was a reflection of the lack of respect accorded to the outgoing party chairman by the Obama team.

    Despite leading the party in consecutive triumphant election cycles — as well as through off-year races such as when Kaine was elected Virginia governor in 2005 — Dean has become all but invisible since Election Day, passed over for the Cabinet position he coveted and apparently not in line for another administration post.

    Indeed, when President-elect Barack Obama introduced Kaine at party headquarters Thursday afternoon, Dean was 7,023 miles and seven time zones away, closer to French Polynesia than to Washington, doing party grunt work in American Samoa.

    His allies aren’t happy about it.

    “If he had been asked to go to that event, he would have been there,” Jim Dean, the chairman’s brother, noted twice in an interview.

    Dean’s reward for the party recapturing the White House, House and Senate, as well as taking control of seven governor’s mansions and eight state legislatures on his watch?

    So far, nothing.
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    * GOP tug-of-war emerging over Obama plan

    A physician by training who devoted much of his time as Vermont governor to health care, Dean had his eye on becoming secretary of Health and Human Services. But the post went to Obama ally and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. The fact that Dean wasn’t even included in Thursday’s ceremonial — and very public — transfer of power from him to Kaine only underscored his isolation.

    “The snub today was no accident,” said one Dean ally. “I guarantee you he would have rescheduled his trip if asked to attend. It’s easy to [screw] over people when you are riding high in the polls, let’s see how many people are singing his praises in six months.”

    Asked about Dean’s absence, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt noted that the chairman was out of town and pointed to the president-elect’s praise in prepared remarks.

    “He launched a 50-state strategy that made Democrats competitive in places they had not been in years, working with my chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, to give Democrats a majority in the House for the first time in over a decade,” Obama said of the Vermonter.

    The obligatory praise did little to placate Dean loyalists, and the mention of Emanuel, who Dean famously clashed with when Democrats took back Congress in 2006, felt to some like a gratuitous slap.

    But Dean likely didn’t see the event. Instead of basking in accolades from the president-elect and his own successor in person, the chairman was in American Samoa, completing his effort to visit every state and territorial Democratic Party.

    It’s a trip, his backers say, he would have gladly rescheduled to have been present for the Kaine announcement. It’s hardly the victory lap his allies expected — and many of them see it as the final sign of disrespect from Obama forces.

    “It’s the most puzzling thing I’ve ever seen in my life,” added a longtime Democrat and friend of Dean, echoing the exasperation and befuddlement many close to him feel about his treatment since the election. “I have tried my best through [Obama advisers] Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod and David Plouffe to ask if he ever committed some crime. I don’t get it. He’s been a good soldier.”

    A third Dean ally compared the outgoing chairman to two other high-profile Democrats who would seem to have given Obamaland more heartburn in the recent past.

    “If we can forgive Joe Lieberman for actively campaigning against Obama, this seems crazy to me. And Hillary Clinton did OK, and lots of her people are getting plum assignments,” noted the ally. “I really think [Dean] has rehabilitated himself. He showed he can be team player. It just seems so odd, and I don’t know what the reasons are.”

    A fourth Dean admirer found some gallows humor in the doctor’s disappearing act: “He said he wanted to be in the Cabinet,” joked the source. “So they stuffed him in the Cabinet and locked the door.”

    Joe Trippi, who was Dean’s presidential campaign manager in 2004 but has not been shy about criticizing his former candidate, praised Dean for his DNC stewardship and willingness to take on the status quo.

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  93. Well, we got to see and hear upthread what Bobo had to say about Soc Sec,

    Let’s see and hear what our girl had to say about the same issues…

    Am proud to say I had 2 short, but exciting conversations with her on the topic of Social Security, once in person, once on a conference call.

    1) 3 W’s youtube.com/watch?v=ZElEswMrtAE

    2)3 W’s youtube.com/watch?v=ODFwcg5tOD

  94. Krugman does good work. He supports Obama but not to the point that it clouds his judgment or causes him to shut up for the sake of unity. There is peace, fraternity, equality and unity in the cemetrary too, but who wants to go there.

    Its gonna be Barack Hussein Obama-Hoover here if he does not listen up. Much as he and his handlers are dismissive of Roosevelt which would you rather have: Roosevelt or Hoover?

    The standard of living we enjoy today is built on past inventions, present businesses intitatives which create value for the consumer, and expectations of future earnings discounted to net present value through equity markets.

    But what happens to our standard of living if the value of future earnings is depressed by a bleak economic outlook as far as the eye can see–the Himalayas. My sense is that Krugman has got it right and half measures may be no better than no measures at all.

    The ghost of Herbert Hoover looms in the background and all over this mess–created by the greed of unscrupulous entrepeneurs, the negiligence of both political parties, and the vissitudes of the business cycle.

    I

  95. Beyond outrageous:

    AMTRAK is responsible for making secure the 137 miles of track between Philadelphia and Washington.
    NPR Radio this noon.

    So that BO can make believe he’s Lincoln.

  96. Lou Dobbs had a round table of financial experts on yesterday. The concensus seemed to be that obama’s plan would extend the recession indefinitely the way it now stands and topple the economy even more.

  97. IN THIS CO-NAH, WEIGHING 180LBS, PAUL “THE MAULER” KRUGMAN. AND IN THE OTHA CO-NAH, WEIGHING 200 LBS AND SPORTING AN OVERSIZED NOGGIN, IS DAVID “LEFT HOOKS” BROOKS…

    On the same page where Krugman faults Obama for “1/3 a loaf”, Brooks worries Obama is trying for a “moon shot”, but without the necessary NASA-like planning: too much, too fast, not enough grounding in reality.

    &&&&&&

    The Confidence Surplus
    By DAVID BROOKS
    Published: January 8, 2009

    Christina Romer is Barack Obama’s choice to lead his Council of Economic Advisers. In 1994, Romer and her husband, David, wrote an essay entitled “What Ends Recessions?” In the first paragraph, the Romers noted that “economists seem strangely unsure about what to tell policy makers to do to end recessions.”

    The Romers surveyed the recessions of the previous 50 years to try to reach some conclusions about what works. “Our central conclusion is that monetary policy alone is a sufficiently powerful and flexible tool to end recessions,” they wrote. Automatic spending policies like unemployment insurance have sometimes helped. Discretionary policies, like tax cuts and stimulus plans, have not been of much use. As they put it: “Discretionary fiscal policy, in contrast, does not appear to have had an important role in generating recoveries.”

    The Romers briefly described how different administrations responded to recessions. All the administrations, Democratic and Republican, resisted large-scale fiscal stimulus plans. They didn’t believe they could time a stimulus correctly. They didn’t trust Congress to pass the bills quickly or cleanly. They decided they shouldn’t be making policy in what Kennedy administration economists called “an atmosphere of haste and panic brought on by recession.”

    The Romers’ essay exemplifies the economic doctrine that reigned up until a few months ago: fiscal stimulus plans that try to time a recession are dangerous, unproven and unnecessary.

    That doctrine has suddenly vanished. But not because we suddenly know how to create effective stimulus plans. Last year, the Congress passed a $165 billion plan that seems to have done almost nothing for the economy. The doctrine has vanished because this recession is deeper than the others and we’ve run out of other stuff to do.

    Today there is wide support for fiscal stimulus. It’s just that there is no historical experience to tell us how to do it, and there is no agreement on how to make it work. The economists’ prescriptions are all over the map.

    Obama is compelled to jump into uncharted territory, with no compass or guide. He could have chosen to spend the big money that is apparently required in cautious ways. He could have chosen to pick out a few easily implemented policies that could be enacted in a way that is targeted, temporary and timely. He could have chosen to merely cut the payroll tax, boost aid to the states and do infrastructure projects.

    But the Obama presidency is going to be defined by his audacious self-confidence. In Thursday’s speech, he vowed to do everything at once. He vowed to throw the big things into the stimulus soup — tax cuts, state aid, road and bridge repair — but also the rest of the pantry. He proposes broadband projects, special education programs, a new power grid, new scientific research, teacher training projects and new libraries.

    This will be the most complex piece of legislation in American history, and as if the policy content wasn’t complicated enough, Obama also promised to pass it via Immaculate Conception — through a new legislative process that will transform politics. The process, he said, will be totally transparent. There will be no earmarks, no special-interest pleading. In a direct rebuttal to Federalist No. 10, he called on lawmakers to put aside their parochial concerns and pass the measure in weeks.

    And as if that isn’t enough, he promised next month to make repairing Social Security and Medicare a “central part” of his budget. “I’m not out to increase the size of government long-term,” he told John Harwood of The Times.

    This is daring and impressive stuff. Obama’s team has clearly thought through every piece of this plan. There’s no plank that’s obviously wasteful or that reeks of special-interest pleading. The tax cut is big and bipartisan. Obama is properly worried about runaway deficits, but he’s spending money on things one would want to do anyway. This is not an attempt to use the crisis to build a European-style welfare state.

    The problem is overload. Four months ago, no one knew how to put together a stimulus package. Now Obama wants to use it to rush through instant special-ed programs and pre-Ks. Repairing the power grid means clearing complex regulatory hurdles. How is he going to do that in time to employ workers in May?

    His staff will be searching for the White House restrooms, and they will have to make billion-dollar decisions by the hour. He is asking Congress to behave and submit in a way it never has. He has picked policies that are phenomenally hard to implement, let alone in weeks. The conventional advice for presidents is: focus your energies on a few big things. Obama just blew the doors off that one.

    Maybe Obama can pull this off, but I have my worries. By this time next year, he’ll either be a great president or a broken one.

  98. holdthemaccountable Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
    Beyond outrageous:

    AMTRAK is responsible for making secure the 137 miles of track between Philadelphia and Washington.
    NPR Radio this noon.

    So that BO can make believe he’s Lincoln.
    ****************************
    and then he will be sworn in with his hand on Lincoln’s Bible…the arrogance and foolishness of this fraud is unbelievable!

    Did he forget Lincoln was assassinated? He keeps slapping people in the face or giving them a ‘1’ finger salute…just how much does he think he can he get away with?

  99. January 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, wbboei Says:

    “The standard of living we enjoy today is built on past inventions, present businesses intitatives which create value for the consumer, and expectations of future earnings discounted to net present value through equity markets.”
    * * * * * * *
    EXACTLY! With no business experience or economics background, BO has absolutely no idea how value or wealth are created.

  100. Illinois Underground Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    * * * * * * *
    EXACTLY! With no business experience or economics background, BO has absolutely no idea how value or wealth are created.
    &&&&&&&&&

    BO has discovered that “value” and “wealth” created by corrupt friends like Rezko and corrupt political dealings. That is to say, he has a LOT of experience in these aspects of economics.

    For example, he was able to utilize this “expertise” to find “affordable housing”, and ensure his wife has a “good job”.

    However, agreed, he don’t know d*ck about economics. He probably thinks John Maynard Keynes wrote the Star Spangled Banner.

  101. rgb44hrc: that is EXACTLY what he thinks. Get $1 million in earmarks for your wife’s employer; get 10% kicked back annually in her paycheck.

  102. Those Paterson comments from yesterday really have me confused. He seems to be bristling about all the CK media adulation. Then why were his aides leaking last week that he was going to pick her? And why did they lean on Sheldon Silver to reverse his position on CK?

  103. From Yahoo/AP story:

    Ill. Court says Burris doesn’t need 2nd signature
    —————————

    CHICAGO – The Illinois Supreme Court says Secretary of State Jesse White doesn’t need to sign Roland Burris’ appointment to the U.S. Senate to make it valid.

    The ruling says no Illinois official has to do anything further to validate the appointment made by Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    Burris was refused President-elect Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat this week in part because Senate Democratic leaders said his paperwork was incomplete without White’s signature.

    The state Supreme Court says nothing in state law requires White to sign the appointment.

    White has said he wouldn’t certify any Blagojevich appointment in the wake of the governor’s federal corruption arrest unless the court forced him to.

    Blagojevich was impeached Friday.

  104. …and more Yahoo/AP:

    Illinois House impeaches Gov. Rod Blagojevich
    ————————

    SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – The Illinois House voted overwhelmingly Friday to impeach Gov. Rod Blagojevich, an unprecedented action that sets up a Senate trial on whether he should be thrown out for abuse of power, including allegations that he tried to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat.

    Impeachment required just 60 votes. The final result was 114-1.

    Legislators accused the second-term Democratic governor of letting down the people of Illinois by letting ego and ambition drive his decisions.

    “It’s our duty to clean up the mess and stop the freak show that’s become Illinois government,” said Rep. Jack D. Franks, a Democrat.

    Blagojevich was out jogging in his Chicago neighborhood when the vote came down. When he returned to his home, he compared his situation to a short story about a petty criminal called “The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner.”

    “And that’s what this (impeachment) is, by the way, a long-distance run,” Blagojevich said, promising to say more at an afternoon news conference.

    Blagojevich is the first governor impeached in Illinois’ long and often sordid political history. He could become only the eighth U.S. governor to be impeached and removed from office; the last was Arizona’s Evan Mecham in 1988.

    During the House’s 90-minute debate on impeachment, no one spoke up to defend the governor. But Rep. Milton Patterson, a Chicago Democrat, made the sole vote against impeaching Blagojevich.

    Patterson said he read the impeachment committee’s report and wasn’t comfortable voting against the governor. “I have no firsthand knowledge of any of the evidence,” he said.

    “I went by my own gut feeling, it’s as simple as that,” he said. “I read the report. If the government is going to indict him, let them go ahead and do that. That’s their job and I’m doing my job.”

    Rep. Elga Jefferies, another Chicago Democrat, voted “present.”

    Blagojevich was arrested Dec. 9 on federal charges that include allegations he schemed to profit from his power to name Obama’s replacement in the Senate. The criminal complaint included an FBI agent’s sworn affidavit describing wiretaps that caught Blagojevich allegedly talking about what he could get for the seat, how to pressure people into making campaign contributions and more.

    That arrest triggered impeachment hearings by a special House committee.

    The committee on Thursday unanimously recommended impeachment based on the criminal charges but other allegations as well — that Blagojevich expanded a health care program without proper authority, that he circumvented hiring laws to give jobs to political allies, that he spent millions of dollars on foreign flu vaccine that he knew wasn’t needed and couldn’t be brought into the country.

    “The citizens of this state must have confidence that their governor will faithfully serve the people and put their interests before his own,” the committee’s report said. “It is with profound regret that the committee finds that our current governor has not done so.”

    Rep. Susana Mendoza, D-Chicago, noted the federal allegation that Blagojevich threatened to withhold state funds for children’s health care unless he got a campaign donation from a hospital executive.

    “Repugnant is too kind a word to describe that action,” she said.

    Blagojevich hasn’t been convicted of any crime, but House members said that doesn’t stop them from acting on the evidence they have, particularly since some of the impeachment charges don’t involve criminal matters.

    Blagojevich has denied the criminal charges. He criticized the House impeachment process as biased and said a Senate trial would produce a different result.

    But he didn’t testify before the House impeachment committee and hasn’t offered an explanation for the federal charges.

    “His silence in this grave matter is deafening,” said House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, a Chicago Democrat.
    [snip]

  105. NQ post recommended this:

    The Coming Rift
    Abe Greenwald

    Pundits are fond of talking about the disconnect between the GOP and the American electorate. Conservatives are out of step, so the wisdom goes. They need to drop the frightening Pentecostalism of Sarah Palin and the bellicosity of John McCain. Republicans must consider dismantling the whole trickle-down apparatus and turning their direct attention to the neglected segment of the population for whom “the promise of America,” as Barack Obama likes to call it, remains unfulfilled.

    True, voters may not be in sync with Republican leaders. But if the current political climate is any indication, they could end up feeling mightily betrayed by Democratic ones.

    Since November’s supposed referendum on Republican ideology, a string of Democratic figures has been sullied by impropriety and entitlement while other members of the party are making an airtight case for the timeliness and resiliency of conservatism. On matters of foreign policy, social policy, and economics, Democratic leadership is largely indistinguishable from the Republican variety. And Democratic voters have noticed. On Saturday, Glen Greenwald complained in the Chicago Sun Times

    It’s not at all surprising that Republican leaders — from Dick Cheney and John Bolton to virtually all appendages of the right-wing noise machine — are unquestioning supporters of the Israeli attack. After all, they’re expressing the core ideology of the overwhelming majority of their voters and audience.

    Much more notable is the fact that Democratic leaders — including Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi — are just as lock step in their blind, uncritical support for the Israeli attack, in their absolute refusal to utter a word of criticism of, or even reservations about, Israeli actions.

    Did Greenwald (no relation, by the way) expect a stirring defense of a terrorist organization? Maybe, maybe not, but the important thing is that whatever Reid or Pelosi said (or failed to say) about the Gaza operation, it was troubling to most of those who voted for them. Greenwald noted that “Democratic voters overwhelmingly oppose the Israeli offensive — by a 24-point margin,” and went on to write, “is there any other position, besides Israel, where a party’s voters overwhelmingly embrace one position (Israel should not have attacked Gaza) but that party’s leadership unanimously embraces the exact opposite position (Israel was absolutely right to attack Gaza and the U.S. must support Israel unequivocally)?”

    Funny he should ask. There’s the Iraq War. A December Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 7 in 10 voters believed that Obama “should fulfill his campaign promise to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq within 16 months.” If that figure represents the average voter, we can safely assume that more than 70 percent of Democratic voters supported this sentiment. But as Eli Lake argued in an indispensable New Republic article from Christmas Eve, “For all the talk of withdrawal and timetables, however, nothing like that is likely to happen.”

    What is likely to happen is that President Obama will stick to the ratified status of forces agreement, keeping troops in Iraq for three more years and allowing for a renegotiation which will probably keep troops there a good deal longer, if not indefinitely. This likelihood is, of course, of a piece with Obama’s choice to stick with George W. Bush’s last Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

    There’s gay marriage. In October, Michelle Obama stood before a gay and lesbian Chicago audience and said, “I feel like I’m preaching to the choir because you know Barack’s record” on “issues of interest to the LGBT community.” Maybe they didn’t know as much as the future first lady assumed. Between the President-elect’s previously ignored stand against gay marriage, Proposition 8 support from a key Obama voting bloc, and his scheduling of Rick Warren to give the invocation at his presidential inauguration, the liberal gay community isn’t quite sure what hit it. As the Washington Editor at Large for the Huffington Post put it on CNN, “From what I gather, every gay person who paid attention to this [the Warren announcement] today felt like we were kicked in the stomach.” Democratic leadership’s opposition to gay marriage certainly isn’t what Glen Greenwald might call “unanimous,” but it’s strong enough and comes from a high enough office to smart.

    On the economic front, what Larry Kudlow deems “a pleasant surprise” has the spread-the-wealth crowd in a tizzy. The punitive tax hike on the “rich” that Obama spoke about throughout the campaign is on hold, while a program of new business tax cuts and personal tax credits has been offered in its place. Again, the base is watching. At the progressive Campaign for America’s Future blog, President-elect Obama has been accused of “buying into the right-wing frame that raising any taxes – even those on the richest citizens and wealthiest corporations – is bad for the economy.” That’s about right.

    Open-ended global instability has made certain that the U.S. will stick to the most vital Bush national security positions. Similarly, economic uncertainty requires the continuation of the Bush tax cuts and the indefinite postponement of pie-in-the-sky entitlements. Despite the campaign scraps thrown to the left-wing chorus and the sham apologetics offered to the international community, many liberal policies have been temporarily rendered non-starters. But if Democratic leaders are resigned to the judicious employment of conservative principles, and Democratic voters are not, where is the party heading?

    It’s hard to say, but it can’t hurt to look at how this gap came about. One place to start is with the netroots. The runaway train of preposterous (and liberal) expectations that delivered Barack Obama into the White House first gained speed as a runaway train full of preposterous accusations against George W. Bush. With their cartoonish demonization of every Bush policy and associate, groups like the Daily Kos and Moveon.org made it impossible for any liberal with a web browser to give a single conservative policy a fair shake. Barack Obama’s exploitation and mobilization of this online hysteria made for an unstoppable campaign, but also for an illusory state of political affairs. Democratic politicians, President-elect Obama included, always knew better than the frenzied multitude that voted in “change.” But the netroots were duped as a result of their own momentum.

    It’s too early to know how the betrayed will repay their leaders in the next Congressional or Presidential elections, but if Democratic fragmentation is to be avoided down the line, perhaps the introspection about re-branding, redefining, and reaching out needs to happen on the Left.

  106. This is amusing – Crain’s Chicago Business (unscientific) poll:
    The Senate said: ‘Don’t even try it.’ His own lawyer said: ‘Why bother?’ Yet Gov. Blagojevich went ahead and appointed Roland Burris. Why?

    (29%) To act like it’s business as usual?
    (50%) To thumb his nose at his foes?
    (16%) To satisfy a need for constant attention?
    (04%) For the good of Illinois?

  107. (50%) To thumb his nose at his foes?
    (16%) To satisfy a need for constant attention?
    ———————————————————————

    I’ll go with those two.

  108. I’m getting a crush on Blago.

    He just quoted Tennyson! LOL

    In response, at Pat Quinn’s dueling press conference he quoted the third verse of America the Beautiful! 🙄

    BTW,

    Can ANYONE explain why McCain is still kissing BO’s butt? I just heard him on Cavuto comparing Bo to Lincoln and saying his was one of the most important presidencies in US history! WTF!!!!!!!!

  109. a) To thumb his nose at his foes

    also,

    e) to have a good laugh, watching everyone wincing and trying to cope with his brilliant chess move.

  110. What is it with the Huckster and his wanting to be identified with Lincoln? The real history of Lincoln was that Emancipation Proclamation was only the first step Lincoln was to take.The other steps have been forgotten or left out of the history books. And yet…..the Huckster still wants to be identified with him? Does he have sh!t for brains?

    I have thought of travelling on Amtrak, but about the time I decide to one of them jumps the rail again or crashes or something.

    I find this very heartwarming. As you know here, I had promised to support all those who did not waver in their support for our girl, Hillary. Therefore, I have offered to ‘help’ Terry McCauliffe in his campaign for Governor of Virginia even though I live in far away Florida. I sent an email to that effect. I got a response that was from one of his campaign/website leaders; it was sort of a form letter. Then, today I got a personal one from Terry himself. It may have been because I asked the same question in the email as I did here about ‘Do I miss Terry and Harold Ickes? You bet your sweet a$$ I do.’ I guess he was amused.

    I very much appreciate all the knowledge shared here on Big Pink.

  111. Blagojech choices:
    (50%) To thumb his nose at his foes?
    [100%] So he could ‘roflhao’ at Reid et al
    (29%) To act like it’s business as usual?
    ___________________________________________
    Above is the degree of my agreement with the choices.

  112. Have the front rank troops been recalled into service?

    Robert Rubin resigned from his advisory post at Citigroup about four hours ago.

  113. A talking head on fox and cavuto praising Bo as a great orator comparing him to FDR in his speech yesterday.There were no teleprompters back then and intelligence was the prime requirement for any president.Any meathead with a note can read a good speech written by paid speech writers.FDR would be proud of Hillary if he could be here and watch and listen to her communicate with people like few of our politicos are able to do.

    By ABM90 Tune in to her tues 13th confirmation hearing and see our girl at her best. The MSM will surely comments will be reflective of their seek and destroy the Clintons agenda.

  114. Another complication for Caroline Kennedy: Her chief flack, Bloomberg, wants to become a Republican again.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01092009/news/regionalnews/former_goper_mike_wants_to_get_back_in_149376.htm

    Mayor Bloomberg has begun reaching out to city Republican leaders to gauge whether he could run on the GOP line in his re-election bid this year, several sources told The Post.

    The maneuvering began in the past two weeks, and sources said the mayor is expected to try to run on a major-party as well as a third-party line, likely one of his own creation.

    Several sources said Bloomberg’s political aides have started reaching out to GOP chairs in the five boroughs, including Manhattan’s Jennifer Saul.

    “I’ve heard from Republican leaders he’s been making phone calls,” said Gristedes supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis, who for months has been campaigning for the GOP nomination for months.

    Bloomberg, a lifelong Democrat who joined the Republican Party for his first mayoral bid in 2001 but then abandoned it in 2007, must mend fences if he wants to secure the Republican line, several sources said.

    “A lot of them [GOP leaders] told me they will not carry petitions for Mayor Bloomberg,” said one source. “They feel he bought us and sold us.”

    At the same time, the source added, “Let’s be real. He’s got $20 billion.”

  115. Shorttermer:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0930738020090109?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

    Robert Rubin, the former Treasury Secretary, resigned from Citigroup Inc on Friday, following months of criticism of his performance at the giant U.S. bank.

    Rubin, 70, is stepping down immediately as senior counselor at New York-based Citigroup. He will remain a director until the bank’s annual meeting later this year. Rubin joined Citigroup in 1999.

    In a letter to Chief Executive Vikram Pandit, Rubin praised management for making the “tough decisions” to restore Citigroup to health, following $20.3 billion of losses in the year ended Sept 30.

    But he admitted to not having foreseen the credit crisis and market deterioration, which caused nearly 90 percent of Citigroup’s share price to evaporate over the last two years.

    The bank has taken $45 billion from the government’s Troubled Asset Relief Program, and in November won a federal bailout that will limit losses on $306 billion of toxic assets.

    “It’s a long time coming,” said Walter Todd, a portfolio manager at Greenwood Capital Associates in Greenwood, South Carolina. “The near-collapse of the firm was under his watch. But he’s more than a regular board member. He advised the board, and he received a lot of money. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth if you’re a shareholder.”

    Rubin said he plans to focus more on outside activities and organizations, and “intensify” his work in public policy.

    “My great regret is that I and so many of us who have been involved in this industry for so long did not recognize the serious possibility of the extreme circumstances that the financial system faces today,” Rubin wrote in a letter to Chief Executive Vikram Pandit.

  116. Emjay Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    Have the front rank troops been recalled into service?

    Robert Rubin resigned from his advisory post at Citigroup about four hours ago.
    ===============

    Summers and some others are already in the new admin. (Good, I like Summers, I’ve got a blog up about him, pumaforsummers.blogspot.com)

  117. Paula Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    Those Paterson comments from yesterday really have me confused. He seems to be bristling about all the CK media adulation. Then why were his aides leaking last week that he was going to pick her? And why did they lean on Sheldon Silver to reverse his position on CK?
    =================

    If you mean the story I posted about, it had quotes from Paterson himself (and some other named officials). The previous stories were all ‘anonymous sources’, including the claim or speculation that someone FROM PATERSON had ‘leaned’ on Silver.

    Also check what media they came from. Iirc my story was from some legit local newspaper in Buffalo??? The previous stories were from national gossip sort of sites imo iirc.

  118. McCain is a pathetic old man. He is a poor example of what is needed in public service. No fire in the belly. None.

  119. Illinois Underground Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    January 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, wbboei Says:

    “The standard of living we enjoy today is built on past inventions, present businesses intitatives which create value for the consumer, and expectations of future earnings discounted to net present value through equity markets.”
    * * * * * * *
    EXACTLY! With no business experience or economics background, BO has absolutely no idea how value or wealth are created.
    ====================

    Speech written by Favreau with one hand, doubtless.

  120. Thanks, Admin. The Blagojevich video above shows me how intelligent he is, and he is a good speaker to boot. If I were a betting person I would challenge the Huckster to quote from memory without benefit of teleprompter like Blag did sans the ummms and uhhhs.

    He is right about one thing – the prescription drug program. This almost makes me wish we lived there. My husband orders much our medicines from overseas at about 1/3 of what it costs here for the same medicine made in the same plants in the same US of A. It is criminal how the drug companies and the like make a killing off the backs of those who are unwell.

    Gotta say that Blagojevich has bells on his b@lls!!! And he is ringing them loud and clear.

  121. wbboei,

    I’m disappointed in JM but I can’ help thinking something went down with Cindy, something the McCain’s didn’t want to risk coming out.

    At least I hope that’s what it is. It’s just too weird the way he refused to go for BO from the beginning . . . .

    Very weird.

  122. wbboei, while I am disappointed that John McCain did not rock em and sock em like I would have wanted, it is my firm belief that he is to be respected as a true patriot.

    And as far as him being an old man, I remember watching tv when Nancy Reagan [should be referred to as an old man?] actually had to put words in Ronald Reagan’s mouth during an interview because he ‘forgot’ what to say because of his Alzheimer’s. Reagan was supposedly running OUR COUNTRY and had such a debilitating condition that had not been disclosed to the public, so being an old man is not applied fairly to everyone – with me it ranks right up there with sexism, misogyny, racism, and discrimination in like forms.

  123. correction to above post:
    And as far as him being an old man, I remember watching tv when Nancy Reagan actually had to put words in Ronald Reagan’s [should be referred to as an old man?] mouth during an interview because he ‘forgot’ what to say because of his Alzheimer’s. Reagan was supposedly running OUR COUNTRY and had such a debilitating condition that had not been disclosed to the public, so being an old man is not applied fairly to everyone – with me it ranks right up there with sexism, misogyny, racism, and discrimination in like forms.

  124. Basil- I dont know. I have never met McCain, but I do respect what he went through for this country. But I know the difference between a fighting admiral like Halsey and a losing admiral like Gormley. McCain reminds me of Gormely. I think the refusal to take on Obama was related to something Chicago had on Cindy–I am sure of it. But I do not think that explains his current admiration. I am not accusing him of it but the response seems almost senile or something. Surely by now he knows who Obama really is and where he came from. The stuff I passed along to him which was readily available in the public domain proves he is no Lincoln. He caught him playing the race card and knows axelrod was behind the NYT smear article directed at his wife. There is no rational explanation for his behavior.

  125. Shorttermer, it has got to be something like that. I dont like to say it or think it but hes got the mark. The things he is saying now almost sound delusional. For his sake I hope I am wrong.

  126. I found this on yahoonewsdotcom. Swayze hospitalized with penumonia. And what is it with politicians, is this the year of the rat or what?
    Wobbei, I hope not. And I learned to love Cindy during the general election.
    __________________________________________
    Baltimore mayor indicted on theft, perjury charges

    By BEN NUCKOLS, Associated Press Writer Ben Nuckols, Associated Press Writer – 41 mins ago

    BALTIMORE – Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted Friday on charges that she accepted illegal gifts during her time as mayor and City Council president, including travel, fur coats and gift cards intended for the poor that she allegedly used instead for a holiday shopping spree.

    A grand jury indicted Dixon on 12 counts, including four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500. She was also charged with theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office.

    The State Prosecutor’s Office, which has been investigating corruption at City Hall for nearly three years, said Dixon received holiday gift cards for four years from several people. Prosecutors said the gift cards were to be distributed to needy families, but were instead used by Dixon to buy electronics — including an Xbox, a PlayStation 2 and a camcorder — clothes and other merchandise and also handed out to members of her staff.

    “I am being unfairly accused,” Dixon said in a statement. “Time will prove that I have done nothing wrong, and I am confident that I will be found innocent of these charges.”

    Dixon said she would not step down. “I will not let these charges deter me from keeping Baltimore on the path that we have set.”

    Her attorney, Arnold M. Weiner, leveled an angry verbal attack against State Prosecutor Robert A. Rohrbaugh at an afternoon news conference.

    “Sheila Dixon has been the state prosecutor’s singular, personal obsession over the past four years,” said Weiner. “There wasn’t a bedsheet that he failed to look under or a lead that he found too trivial for him to pursue personally.”

    Rohrbaugh declined through his office to respond to Weiner’s comments.

    Weiner also criticized Rohrbaugh for failing to secure an indictment for bribery, which he described as “the offense that every prosecutor looks for when he or she investigates a public official.”

    After consulting with City Solicitor George Nilson, Weiner said the charges would not affect Dixon’s ability to continue in her job.

    Dixon, a 55-year-old Democrat, served on the City Council from 1987 through 2007 and as council president from 1999 through 2007. She became mayor in January 2007, finishing the term of Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley, and was easily elected to a full, four-year term later that year.

    The state prosecutor’s investigation began in March 2006, and has overshadowed her tenure as mayor. She has consistently denied wrongdoing, and while many political observers worried that an indictment could come at any time, the mayor nonetheless earned praise for efficient management, shrewd hiring and coolheaded responses to crises.

    Some residents and city officials, including City Councilwoman Rochelle “Rikki” Spector and City Council President Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, expressed support for the mayor Friday.

    Construction worker Michael Scott said he believes the allegations were racially motivated. Dixon is the first black woman to serve as mayor of Baltimore.

    “I’m pretty sure they got it twisted up,” Scott said. “They could be saying anything just to drag her down. Prove it to me.”

    The indictment against Dixon does not name Ronald H. Lipscomb, a prominent developer who briefly dated the mayor and who was indicted Wednesday on one charge of bribing a City Council member. But Weiner confirmed Lipscomb was “Developer A” mentioned in the indictment who showered the mayor with gifts and took several lavish trips with her in late 2003 and early 2004.

    Both were married at the time, although they were separated from their spouses. Dixon has since divorced.

    The indictment describes Dixon taking money from Lipscomb and using it to buy expensive gifts — two fur coats and high-end skin products, for example — all while pampering herself with trips to New York City, Chicago and Colorado with stays at lavish hotels.

    The documents describe an elaborate scheme by which Lipscomb paid for part of a shopping spree Dixon enjoyed during a stay in Chicago. At one point, Dixon gave $4,000 in cash to a city employee, who deposited it in his personal checking account and wrote a check to pay off part of Dixon’s American Express bill, according to the indictment.

    Dixon obtained the cash after Lipscomb cashed a corporate check worth $15,000 and the two exchanged several phone calls, the indictment says.

    Dixon has never listed any gifts from Lipscomb on financial disclosure forms. At the time of Dixon and Lipscomb’s affair, his company was involved in several projects that received tax breaks from the city.

    Weiner said the state prosecutor was using a mistakenly broad interpretation of the city’s ethics law, which requires that elected officials disclose gifts from people doing business with the city.

    Perhaps more damaging is the allegation that Dixon stole gift cards meant for the poor. For four years running, according to the indictment, Dixon received gift cards that were supposed to be distributed to needy families.

    The alleged scam continued through December 2007. According to the indictment, a city employee gave the mayor gift cards from Toys R Us that were supposed to go to poor children. Dixon gave one gift card to a staffer, and investigators said they found five more in a search of her home last summer.

    Dixon received Best Buy gift cards from Lipscomb’s company in December 2004 and held onto some of them for a year before using them to buy CDs, DVDs and a video game, according to the indictment.

    In 2005, Dixon hit up another unidentified developer for gift cards that she said would be used for needy families. The developer paid for 20 Best Buy gift cards worth $25 each, and Dixon used 19 of them, or $450 worth, to buy a camcorder, a video game controller and other electronics, the indictment says.

    Dixon’s financial disclosure statements for the years in question do not mention that she received any gift cards.

    Weiner said most of the gift cards mentioned in the indictment were private gifts from Lipscomb.

    O’Malley, mayor during most of the alleged wrongdoing by Dixon, declined through a spokesman to comment.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Alex Dominguez, Ben Greene and Kasey Jones in Baltimore and Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., contributed to this report.

  127. Baltimore mayor indicted on theft, perjury charges
    By BEN NUCKOLS, Associated Press Writer Ben Nuckols, Associated Press Writer – 41 mins ago

    BALTIMORE – Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted Friday on charges that she accepted illegal gifts during her time as mayor and City Council president, including travel, fur coats and gift cards intended for the poor that she allegedly used instead for a holiday shopping spree.

    A grand jury indicted Dixon on 12 counts, including four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500. She was also charged with theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office.

    The State Prosecutor’s Office, which has been investigating corruption at City Hall for nearly three years, said Dixon received holiday gift cards for four years from several people. Prosecutors said the gift cards were to be distributed to needy families, but were instead used by Dixon to buy electronics — including an Xbox, a PlayStation 2 and a camcorder — clothes and other merchandise and also handed out to members of her staff.

    “I am being unfairly accused,” Dixon said in a statement. “Time will prove that I have done nothing wrong, and I am confident that I will be found innocent of these charges.”

    Dixon said she would not step down. “I will not let these charges deter me from keeping Baltimore on the path that we have set.”

    Her attorney, Arnold M. Weiner, leveled an angry verbal attack against State Prosecutor Robert A. Rohrbaugh at an afternoon news conference.

    “Sheila Dixon has been the state prosecutor’s singular, personal obsession over the past four years,” said Weiner. “There wasn’t a bedsheet that he failed to look under or a lead that he found too trivial for him to pursue personally.”

    Rohrbaugh declined through his office to respond to Weiner’s comments.

    Weiner also criticized Rohrbaugh for failing to secure an indictment for bribery, which he described as “the offense that every prosecutor looks for when he or she investigates a public official.”

    After consulting with City Solicitor George Nilson, Weiner said the charges would not affect Dixon’s ability to continue in her job.

    Dixon, a 55-year-old Democrat, served on the City Council from 1987 through 2007 and as council president from 1999 through 2007. She became mayor in January 2007, finishing the term of Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley, and was easily elected to a full, four-year term later that year.

    The state prosecutor’s investigation began in March 2006, and has overshadowed her tenure as mayor. She has consistently denied wrongdoing, and while many political observers worried that an indictment could come at any time, the mayor nonetheless earned praise for efficient management, shrewd hiring and coolheaded responses to crises.

    Some residents and city officials, including City Councilwoman Rochelle “Rikki” Spector and City Council President Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, expressed support for the mayor Friday.

    Construction worker Michael Scott said he believes the allegations were racially motivated. Dixon is the first black woman to serve as mayor of Baltimore.

    “I’m pretty sure they got it twisted up,” Scott said. “They could be saying anything just to drag her down. Prove it to me.”

    The indictment against Dixon does not name Ronald H. Lipscomb, a prominent developer who briefly dated the mayor and who was indicted Wednesday on one charge of bribing a City Council member. But Weiner confirmed Lipscomb was “Developer A” mentioned in the indictment who showered the mayor with gifts and took several lavish trips with her in late 2003 and early 2004.

    Both were married at the time, although they were separated from their spouses. Dixon has since divorced.

    The indictment describes Dixon taking money from Lipscomb and using it to buy expensive gifts — two fur coats and high-end skin products, for example — all while pampering herself with trips to New York City, Chicago and Colorado with stays at lavish hotels.

    The documents describe an elaborate scheme by which Lipscomb paid for part of a shopping spree Dixon enjoyed during a stay in Chicago. At one point, Dixon gave $4,000 in cash to a city employee, who deposited it in his personal checking account and wrote a check to pay off part of Dixon’s American Express bill, according to the indictment.

    Dixon obtained the cash after Lipscomb cashed a corporate check worth $15,000 and the two exchanged several phone calls, the indictment says.

    Dixon has never listed any gifts from Lipscomb on financial disclosure forms. At the time of Dixon and Lipscomb’s affair, his company was involved in several projects that received tax breaks from the city.

    Weiner said the state prosecutor was using a mistakenly broad interpretation of the city’s ethics law, which requires that elected officials disclose gifts from people doing business with the city.

    Perhaps more damaging is the allegation that Dixon stole gift cards meant for the poor. For four years running, according to the indictment, Dixon received gift cards that were supposed to be distributed to needy families.

    The alleged scam continued through December 2007. According to the indictment, a city employee gave the mayor gift cards from Toys R Us that were supposed to go to poor children. Dixon gave one gift card to a staffer, and investigators said they found five more in a search of her home last summer.

    Dixon received Best Buy gift cards from Lipscomb’s company in December 2004 and held onto some of them for a year before using them to buy CDs, DVDs and a video game, according to the indictment.

    In 2005, Dixon hit up another unidentified developer for gift cards that she said would be used for needy families. The developer paid for 20 Best Buy gift cards worth $25 each, and Dixon used 19 of them, or $450 worth, to buy a camcorder, a video game controller and other electronics, the indictment says.

    Dixon’s financial disclosure statements for the years in question do not mention that she received any gift cards.

    Weiner said most of the gift cards mentioned in the indictment were private gifts from Lipscomb.

    O’Malley, mayor during most of the alleged wrongdoing by Dixon, declined through a spokesman to comment.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Alex Dominguez, Ben Greene and Kasey Jones in Baltimore and Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., contributed to this report.

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    I found this at yahoonews online. Add h’s and w’s news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_re_us/baltimore_mayor_probe

  128. Baltimore mayor indicted on theft, perjury charges
    By BEN NUCKOLS, Associated Press Writer Ben Nuckols, Associated Press Writer – 41 mins ago

    BALTIMORE – Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted Friday on charges that she accepted illegal gifts during her time as mayor and City Council president, including travel, fur coats and gift cards intended for the poor that she allegedly used instead for a holiday shopping spree.

    A grand jury indicted Dixon on 12 counts, including four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500. She was also charged with theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office.

    The State Prosecutor’s Office, which has been investigating corruption at City Hall for nearly three years, said Dixon received holiday gift cards for four years from several people. Prosecutors said the gift cards were to be distributed to needy families, but were instead used by Dixon to buy electronics — including an Xbox, a PlayStation 2 and a camcorder — clothes and other merchandise and also handed out to members of her staff.

    “I am being unfairly accused,” Dixon said in a statement. “Time will prove that I have done nothing wrong, and I am confident that I will be found innocent of these charges.”

    Dixon said she would not step down. “I will not let these charges deter me from keeping Baltimore on the path that we have set.”

    Her attorney, Arnold M. Weiner, leveled an angry verbal attack against State Prosecutor Robert A. Rohrbaugh at an afternoon news conference.

    “Sheila Dixon has been the state prosecutor’s singular, personal obsession over the past four years,” said Weiner. “There wasn’t a bedsheet that he failed to look under or a lead that he found too trivial for him to pursue personally.”

    Rohrbaugh declined through his office to respond to Weiner’s comments.

    Weiner also criticized Rohrbaugh for failing to secure an indictment for bribery, which he described as “the offense that every prosecutor looks for when he or she investigates a public official.”

    After consulting with City Solicitor George Nilson, Weiner said the charges would not affect Dixon’s ability to continue in her job.

    Dixon, a 55-year-old Democrat, served on the City Council from 1987 through 2007 and as council president from 1999 through 2007. She became mayor in January 2007, finishing the term of Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley, and was easily elected to a full, four-year term later that year.

    The state prosecutor’s investigation began in March 2006, and has overshadowed her tenure as mayor. She has consistently denied wrongdoing, and while many political observers worried that an indictment could come at any time, the mayor nonetheless earned praise for efficient management, shrewd hiring and coolheaded responses to crises.

    Some residents and city officials, including City Councilwoman Rochelle “Rikki” Spector and City Council President Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, expressed support for the mayor Friday.

    Construction worker Michael Scott said he believes the allegations were racially motivated. Dixon is the first black woman to serve as mayor of Baltimore.

    “I’m pretty sure they got it twisted up,” Scott said. “They could be saying anything just to drag her down. Prove it to me.”

    The indictment against Dixon does not name Ronald H. Lipscomb, a prominent developer who briefly dated the mayor and who was indicted Wednesday on one charge of bribing a City Council member. But Weiner confirmed Lipscomb was “Developer A” mentioned in the indictment who showered the mayor with gifts and took several lavish trips with her in late 2003 and early 2004.

    Both were married at the time, although they were separated from their spouses. Dixon has since divorced.

    The indictment describes Dixon taking money from Lipscomb and using it to buy expensive gifts — two fur coats and high-end skin products, for example — all while pampering herself with trips to New York City, Chicago and Colorado with stays at lavish hotels.

    The documents describe an elaborate scheme by which Lipscomb paid for part of a shopping spree Dixon enjoyed during a stay in Chicago. At one point, Dixon gave $4,000 in cash to a city employee, who deposited it in his personal checking account and wrote a check to pay off part of Dixon’s American Express bill, according to the indictment.

    Dixon obtained the cash after Lipscomb cashed a corporate check worth $15,000 and the two exchanged several phone calls, the indictment says.

    Dixon has never listed any gifts from Lipscomb on financial disclosure forms. At the time of Dixon and Lipscomb’s affair, his company was involved in several projects that received tax breaks from the city.

    Weiner said the state prosecutor was using a mistakenly broad interpretation of the city’s ethics law, which requires that elected officials disclose gifts from people doing business with the city.

    Perhaps more damaging is the allegation that Dixon stole gift cards meant for the poor. For four years running, according to the indictment, Dixon received gift cards that were supposed to be distributed to needy families.

    The alleged scam continued through December 2007. According to the indictment, a city employee gave the mayor gift cards from Toys R Us that were supposed to go to poor children. Dixon gave one gift card to a staffer, and investigators said they found five more in a search of her home last summer.

    Dixon received Best Buy gift cards from Lipscomb’s company in December 2004 and held onto some of them for a year before using them to buy CDs, DVDs and a video game, according to the indictment.

    In 2005, Dixon hit up another unidentified developer for gift cards that she said would be used for needy families. The developer paid for 20 Best Buy gift cards worth $25 each, and Dixon used 19 of them, or $450 worth, to buy a camcorder, a video game controller and other electronics, the indictment says.

    Dixon’s financial disclosure statements for the years in question do not mention that she received any gift cards.

    Weiner said most of the gift cards mentioned in the indictment were private gifts from Lipscomb.

    O’Malley, mayor during most of the alleged wrongdoing by Dixon, declined through a spokesman to comment.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Alex Dominguez, Ben Greene and Kasey Jones in Baltimore and Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., contributed to this report.

    – – – – – – – –
    I found this at yahoonews online. Add h’s and w’s news.yahoodotcom/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_re_us/baltimore_mayor_probe

  129. Admin, please intercept duplicate postings. I just tried to post the news about the Baltimore Mayor being indicted on perjury and theft charges.

    Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted Friday on charges that she accepted illegal gifts during her time as mayor and City Council president, including travel, fur coats and gift cards intended for the poor that she allegedly used instead for a holiday shopping spree.

    A grand jury indicted Dixon on 12 counts, including four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500. She was also charged with theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office.

  130. Hows the circus today, has Coco the Clown been in the three ring yet, I saw Blago leading the lions out and he was hungry.

  131. True, voters may not be in sync with Republican leaders. But if the current political climate is any indication, they could end up feeling mightily betrayed by Democratic ones.

    Since November’s supposed referendum on Republican ideology, a string of Democratic figures has been sullied by impropriety and entitlement while other members of the party are making an airtight case for the timeliness and resiliency of conservatism. On matters of foreign policy, social policy, and economics, Democratic leadership is largely indistinguishable from the Republican variety.
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    RGB: thanks for posting the article in commentary magazine on obamas betrayal of the left. The operative question is whether they will continue to sit still for it.

    So far he has managed to get by grinning like a hyena, pissing on their leg and telling them it is raining. Will they get wise?

    Normal people do not like to be lied to. Left wing ideologues may be different since they are governed by emotions not facts

  132. wobbei and basil, perhaps McCain’s behavior now has to do with him selling his soul to the Huckster in order to save his friend Liebermann’s committee appointments?

  133. Admin Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Blagojevich Video…

    Holy Smokes! Blagovich making his case via You-tube before the People. (Remember me, I save lives!) ..AND without the aid of a Tele-prompter!

    Hot Rod comes across as a charismatic scrapper! What can I say, unfortunately, people like telegenic, larger than life, scrappers. If Blagojevich wasn’t as corrupt and as avaricious as they claim; he’d be a rising star nipping at Obama’s heels.

  134. Blago is as corrupt and avaricious as Obama, Obama just hid it better because he was AA and no one dared to criticize him.

    Those 2 are peas in the pod and both hate each other, it will be one or the other or both. but both cannot survive.

  135. wbboei Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
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    He did the same thing with Bush. I was able in some part to forgive him for that, but this is obscene and his remarks and non support about Palin are upsetting.

  136. wobbei and basil, perhaps McCain’s behavior now has to do with him selling his soul to the Huckster in order to save his friend Liebermann’s committee appointments?
    ___________________________

    Selling out the country to save the political career of The Keebler Elf? Perhaps, but it seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Then again, stranger things have happened.

  137. No this is about McCain trying to save his own ass from a political challenge in 2010 for his seat.

  138. and the list of corrupt Democrats gets longer, and this one is pure crap, stealing gift cards for the poor. Would’nt you know Chicago gets mentioned again………seriously this woman is a real piece of work.

    www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jan/09/baltimore-mayor-probe-010909/?zIndex=34494

    Baltimore mayor indicted on theft, perjury charges

    BALTIMORE — Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted Friday on charges that she accepted illegal gifts during her time as mayor and City Council president, including travel, fur coats and gift cards intended for the poor that she allegedly used instead for a holiday shopping spree.

    A grand jury indicted Dixon on 12 counts, including four counts of perjury and two counts of theft over $500. She was also charged with theft under $500, fraudulent misappropriation by a fiduciary and misconduct in office.

    The State Prosecutor’s Office, which has been investigating corruption at City Hall for nearly three years, said Dixon received holiday gift cards for four years from several people. Prosecutors said the gift cards were to be distributed to needy families, but were instead used by Dixon to buy electronics – including an Xbox, a PlayStation 2 and a camcorder – clothes and other merchandise and also handed out to members of her staff.

    The indictment describes Dixon taking money from Lipscomb and using it to buy expensive gifts – two fur coats and high-end skin products, for example – all while pampering herself with trips to New York City, Chicago and Colorado with stays at lavish hotels.

    snip………

    The documents describe an elaborate scheme by which Lipscomb paid for part of a shopping spree Dixon enjoyed during a stay in Chicago. At one point, Dixon gave $4,000 in cash to a city employee, who deposited it in his personal checking account and wrote a check to pay off part of Dixon’s American Express bill, according to the indictment.

    Dixon obtained the cash after Lipscomb cashed a corporate check worth $15,000 and the two exchanged several phone calls, the indictment says.

    Dixon has never listed any gifts from Lipscomb on financial disclosure forms. At the time of Dixon and Lipscomb’s affair, his company was involved in several projects that received tax breaks from the city.

    Weiner said the state prosecutor was using a mistakenly broad interpretation of the city’s ethics law, which requires that elected officials disclose gifts from people doing business with the city.

    Perhaps more damaging is the allegation that Dixon stole gift cards meant for the poor. For four years running, according to the indictment, Dixon received gift cards that were supposed to be distributed to needy families.

  139. gonzotx Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
    wbboei Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
    *************************************

    He did the same thing with Bush. I was able in some part to forgive him for that, but this is obscene and his remarks and non support about Palin are upsetting.
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    gonzotx

    I absolutely agree with you on his lack of unqualified support for Palin. That was totally disgusting, especially after he picked her to be his running mate.

    I also agree that he had a reproachment with Bush, but I do not recall that he went so far as to call him Lincoln, Austin or Houston. Also, they were in the same party. Whereas here he is supporting bambi over the interests of his party, so I think there is more too it. But I could be wrong.

  140. moononpluto Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    No this is about McCain trying to save his own ass from a political challenge in 2010 for his seat.

    ———————————–
    Yes, but it really breaks my heart that he has to take such cutthroat measures in order to achieve it.

    I may not have agreed with all of his policies, but I honestly thought he was a gentleman, honorable and decent.

    I have to admit that this feels like one more betrayal in a system that can little afford anymore hits.

  141. # wbboei Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Krugman does good work. He supports Obama but not to the point that it clouds his judgment or causes him to shut up for the sake of unity. There is peace, fraternity, equality and unity in the cemetrary too, but who wants to go there.

    Its gonna be Barack Hussein Obama-Hoover here if he does not listen up. Much as he and his handlers are dismissive of Roosevelt which would you rather have: Roosevelt or Hoover?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Republicans are Hoovering Obama…

    The dye is cast! The Republicans are already acting like they are keepers of the Trust… fastidious and frugal with our money… when they never raised their voices a year ago, when they could have been working to mitigate the damaged economy already headed for the dumper.

    I believe Krugman is true to himself and fears just as we do, if Obama caves in and negotiates numbers down too much with Republicans in the interests of appeasement… I’m afraid, we will truly be lost.

  142. MOONPLUTO!!!!!! XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

    Great to see you back.

    Mrs. Smith,

    I gotta crush on O’Blago. That guy has b@lls of steel, AKA testicular fortitude. I LOVED his PC! What a man. 😉

    Wbboie, I just don’t know about JM. On the one hand I’m furious he let BO weasel his way to power, OTOH, I respect and admire his heroism and his public service so I’m gonna haveta give him the benefit of the doubt.

  143. # rgb44hrc Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    From Yahoo/AP story:

    Ill. Court says Burris doesn’t need 2nd signature

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    Fantasic! I didn’t think so. When I looked up the Ill SOS duties. His signature is considered verification the Governor had made the appointment. (more in the vein of a witness.)

  144. John Fund Blasts Speaker Pelosi on ‘Reforms’

    Friday, January 9, 2009 12:25 PM

    By: David A. Patten Article Font Size

    The rule changes Speaker Nancy Pelosi is steamrolling through the House of Representatives contradict President-elect Barack Obama’s bipartisan promises, and also fly in the face of Pelosi’s own pledge to “insure the rights” of the minority party.

    That’s the view of Wall Street Journal columnist and author John Fund, who documented Friday how Pelosi’s tune has changed in a bid to drown out the voices of Republican minority opposition in Congress.

    The recent rule changes engineered by Pelosi, for example, end term limits for committee chairmanships. This is a major reversal of GOP reforms ushered in by the 1994 ”Contract With America.”

    Term limits, Fund writes in a commentary titled “Pelosi Turns Back the Clock on House Reform,” helped “inject new ideas and merit into Congress.”

    Pelosi’s rule changes partially restore the old Democratic, seniority-based system of chairmanships.

    “Can this really be the ‘change’ that voters wanted last November?” Fund asks rhetorically. “Wags are already joking that Democrats are really delivering ‘senility you can believe in.’”

    The rule changes passed Tuesday also severely restrict the legislative maneuver called a “motion to recommit” – a century-old maneuver that the minority party uses to send bills that reach the floor back to committees, where they can be endlessly debated.

    GOP representatives used the tactic 50 times in the last session, mostly to stave off hidden tax hikes buried in larger bills.

    Fund points out that Pelosi’s new rules sharply contradict positions she took before Democrats came to power. In 2004, Fund says, Pelosi rolled out a “Bill of Rights” to protect the interests of the party not in power.

    “When we [Democrats] are shut out, they are shutting out the great diversity of America,” Pelosi warned at the time. “We want a higher standard.”

    Just prior to becoming Speaker, Pelosi spoke of “bipartisanship” and her plans “to ensure the rights of the minority.” Now that Democrats have consolidated their power, however, things are obviously different.

    One of the ironies of Pelosi’s power grab, Fund points out, is that conservative “Blue Dog” Democrats are among the losers under the new rules because they often lack seniority.

    Fund quotes Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, who observes: “All those nice pro-life, gun-owning young Democrats recruited to run by Rahm Emanuel will never have any real influence now. They were useful in getting Democrats a majority, but now they’ll be in the back of the bus.”
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    Prediction: Pelosi will be thrown under the bus within eighteen months. She is a threat to the administration and the country. Intelligence and good judgment never were her stong suit. Her behavior is erratic and unsound. I have heard reports that she is an alcholic. If those reports are accurate then she is vulnerable to a whisper campaign which has probably already started. Wouldnt that be a shame.

  145. I can’t wait till Pelosi’s ass goes under the bus and we get to put the sucker in 4 x 4. Can’t stand the bytch

  146. # moononpluto Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Blago is as corrupt and avaricious as Obama, Obama just hid it better because he was AA and no one dared to criticize him.

    Those 2 are peas in the pod and both hate each other, it will be one or the other or both. but both cannot survive.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obama hid his corrupt, dark side from unhappy people who are insecure and believe in pie in the sky. I fought the good fight for Big Pink and Hillary at DU… and was banned because I consistently asked where is Obama’s Birth Certificate. I’ve almost forgotten. I received a written commendation from Hillary is 44 for my fireceness and bravery at the front lines using my pink His44 pin as my shield doing battle with the OBots.

    I have always been a Hillary supporter and never ever supporterd Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Gravel or Kucinich. You’ll notice TRUE Hillary supporters are a breed unto themselves. People gravitate to candidates who best represent their core principles and interests. Hillary is and always was the “one”.. I tend towards centerism… amicable to listen and an advocate of bipartisanship if it serves our best interests.

    Obama is smooth and the more dangerous of the two…as we’ll soon find out. Blagojevich, the articulate, the colorful, the easily upended will soon be moondust.

  147. “Now that Democrats have consolidated their power, however, things are obviously different.”

    Pelosi et al are all bent on making America a dictatorship. She is using Himmler tactics to suffocate free will, free speech, free…anything…

  148. Mrs. Smith Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

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    Mrs. Smith, I applaud you! You truly are one of the unsung heroes in this election debacle.

  149. I keep trying to envision a scenario in which Hillary could run for POTUS in 4 years.
    First, if the truth comes out about BO’s birth certificate that would not be enough to get him out. However, his statements about it could prove enough of an embarrassment and perhaps prblematic enough to force him not to seek reelction.
    Second, growing divisiveness within the party between Hillary supporters, gays, women and Obots combined with O’s foot in mouth desease and general incompetence could make him vulnerable in 4 years.
    Third, a combination of the above.

    Does anyone think this is possible or is O the unchallenged standard bearer in 4 years?

  150. Mrs Smith, I fought like a bitch over at DU, perhaps we battle together, I eventually got banned too.

    I was Sunonmars over there and here is my alter ego.

  151. Carol: I think it is a distinct possibility. There are other scenarios as well as the ones you mention. But between now and then the power of big media must be broken. I believe that will happen. They are joined to Obama at the hip and they will go down together.

    The main thing to remember is this:

    1. even now, his political fate and her politica fate are inversely proportional.

    2. for every action (unbridled optimism today) there is an equal and opposite reaction (disillusionment later).

    Will his fall happen in time for the 2010 election? Definitely.

    Would she step in if asked to? Probably.

  152. Oakland CA under seige. Restitution has begun.
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    What is going on over there ABM 90? No there there you mean?

  153. # moononpluto Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Mrs Smith, I fought like a bitch over at DU, perhaps we battle together, I eventually got banned too.I was Sunonmars over there and here is my alter ego.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The tumult is still going on over there. Our dedicated subterranean moles hand in their reports daily. The lamenting of Howard Dean’s sudden irrelevancy is pitifully excused by Cali and Zulu as an unfortunate oversight by Obama. (sigh)…

  154. I find it strange, all this corruption going on, mayors, governors, but nothing on O. When we all know whats going on with him. It is as if he is not touchable.

    I also feel these politicians is nothing but a bag of wind. I cannot believe how McCain is kissing up to O, while dissing Palin.

    Do you think he was jealous of her popularity? She was the one who drew the crowds.

  155. # JanH Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Mrs. Smith

    Says:January 9th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

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    Mrs. Smith, I applaud you! You truly are one of the unsung heroes in this election debacle.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Apologies, JanH.. I know you responded to one of my posts upthread. I copied and pasted it to my clipboard and we lost power here temporarily for a few hours. Thank you for your kind words..

  156. I am posting this article for the limited purpose of showing that Hillary’s confirmation before the Senate next week should go smoothly. Despite the trouble which the New York Times (Charles Savage) tried to scare up.

    To be clear, Senator Bob Casey Jr. is not someone whose judgment I would trust in most matters. He was our adversary in the Pennsylvania primary. Nevetheless, I do think he is capable of reflecting the consensus among dimocratic and see no reason for him to misrepresent the truth in this instance.
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    Senator: Management of State top priority for Clinton
    January 9th, 2009 | State | Posted by Stephen LoseycloseAuthor: Stephen Losey

    I just got off a conference call with Sen. Robert Casey, D-Penn., about his meeting today with Secretary of State nominee Hillary Clinton. Casey, who is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that will consider Clinton’s nomination Jan. 13, said he is very pleased with the direction Clinton wants to take State and expects she’ll be easily confirmed.

    Most of today’s meeting dealt with State’s management, budget and personnel issues, Casey said, which will be among Clinton’s primary concerns. And one of Clinton’s first actions at State will be to elevate management issues to the deputy secretary level.

    Eight years ago, Congress created a deputy secretary for management and resources position at State, but it was never officially filled and the job got busted down to undersecretary for management. Casey is glad to see Clinton restore clout to the management position, and said her selection of former Office of Management and Budget director Jacob Lew is the right move to make sure State’s initiatives succeed. “You can have all the right policies and goals, but if you can’t manage and don’t have someone whose expertise is in the world of budgets and dollars, you won’t be successful,” Casey said.

    Casey said Clinton is also concerned that the Foreign Service is understaffed and could hire more, though he said Clinton did not say how many she’d like to hire. Casey also said State should improve its training of Foreign Service officers to keep their skills sharp when they are between assignments

  157. The tumult is still going on over there. Our dedicated subterranean moles hand in their reports daily. The lamenting of Howard Dean’s sudden irrelevancy is pitifully excused by Cali and Zulu as an unfortunate oversight by Obama. (sigh)…
    ——————————-
    Total detachment from reality. They do not belong in politics or the real world. They should be charter members of some lonely hearts club where emotion is lord of reason.

  158. The Wall Street Jounal reports that the same big business interests who financed his campaign, and were beneficiaries of the bail out are now financing his the barf fest inaguration. The evidence is clear that he is a shill for big business and will bury the middle class. I guess it is obvious but it does not hurt the keep saying it on the outside chance that some of his delusional suckers will come to their senses. At what point should we stop using the word contributions and start using the word graft. If we have a depression these are the people who should be held accountable.
    ———————————–
    WSJ: Obama Breaks Pledge on Inauguration Donations

    Friday, January 9, 2009 12:14 PM

    By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size

    A full 90 percent of donations to fund Barack Obama’s Jan. 20 inauguration have come from well-heeled fundraisers — including Wall Street executives whose companies have received federal bailout money.

    A total of 207 fundraisers have collected $24.8 million of the $27.3 million in donations disclosed by Obama through Thursday, according to an analysis by Public Citizen commissioned by The Wall Street Journal.

    Slightly more than 2,000 donors accounted for the $27.3 million raised, but 378 of those people each contributed the maximum $50,000 allowed by Obama, raising almost 70 percent of the total, or $18.9 million, the analysis found.

    Wall Street employees have been the largest single source of private donations, and many of the contributions have been channeled through financial-services executives who have put together bundles of donations worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    “The preponderance of large donors and the fact that so many come from an industry receiving government handouts comes as the president-elect has sought to keep his inauguration free of special interests,” The Journal observed.

    Bundlers from the financial sector include executives from Citigroup Inc. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., two firms that have accepted billions of dollars each in bailout money from the federal government.

    Obama’s presidential campaign smashed all previous fundraising records, raking in more than an astounding $650 million from some 3 million donors

  159. Can we bribe the train conductor to send the idiotic innaugural train in the opposite direction of Washington?

  160. “Oh hello, this is J.R. fatcat and I am calling the White House for help with a problem I am having which requires a political solution–if you know what I mean.

    Before I describe the problem, I want you to know that I have been a big supporter to the President and so have my rich friends. And I have been with him since the primary. Hillary scared the daylights out of us with her populist appeal–we could not allow that. I supported him in the general election against that old fart McCain. And you know I even made a contribution to the inagueration. And now I need to call in my chips, if you know what I mean. If you dont ask the president–he knows.

    Here is the problem: I am getting some resistance to the things I am doing to make a living – like nuclear waste in the drinking water environmental concerns, tenants freezing in their homes, and exporting jobs. Now granted these are just little people and the local officials are an annoynace. But it sure seems I should get some return on the investment I have made in the President. You know there are no free lunches. Would you let the president know–he will remember me.

  161. wbboei Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    The tumult is still going on over there. Our dedicated subterranean moles hand in their reports daily. The lamenting of Howard Dean’s sudden irrelevancy is pitifully excused by Cali and Zulu as an unfortunate oversight by Obama. (sigh)…
    ——————————-Total detachment from reality. They do not belong in politics or the real world. They should be charter members of some lonely hearts club where emotion is lord of reason.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So True.. They all believe Obama is their messianic figure who would bring them instant wealth and unearned superiority. Playing the same scripted cards over and over to the point of driving sane people mad. I don’t miss the gnashing of teeth when they are witness to the Truth as fact. No, I don’t miss them at all.

  162. wbboei:Saw a Fox news report at about six pm about sreet rioting damage to many small business properties cars destroyed and fighting between swat teams and out of control protesters .It was brougt about when a AA in custody was shot and killed by a police officer.Cause was not clear and will be investigated .
    Oakland CA has a very high number of murders and property damages as well as rapes and assaults in the nation.There were interesting comments and threats alluded to by protesters.Very little coverage on TV news.I hate to think of what is in store for this country based on the Legacy of Restitution that BHO mentioned so many times during his campaigning. Sad days ahead and dangerous as well.

    By ABM90 Pride and patriotism are being replaced by the
    evils of Retribution.

  163. wbboei Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    The tumult is still going on over there. Our dedicated subterranean moles hand in their reports daily. The lamenting of Howard Dean’s sudden irrelevancy is pitifully excused by Cali and Zulu as an unfortunate oversight by Obama. (sigh)…
    ——————————-
    Total detachment from reality. They do not belong in politics or the real world. They should be charter members of some lonely hearts club where emotion is lord of reason.
    ===================

    Why would Obama deliberately insult Dean this way? Dean is neither a Hillary supporter nor a woman.

  164. neetabug Says: I cannot believe how McCain is kissing up to O, while dissing Palin.
    ==================

    Then don’t believe it. It’s probably just media misrepresentation anyway.

    For example, McCain was asked if he supported Palin in 2012. He said it was too soon to support anyone but praised her. This was spun as dissing her.

    If you want a cite, longer quotes from the interview, email me at tdo@turndownobama.com

  165. Paula, pls note the difference between this article and the ones that were talking from anon sources about someone ‘leaning on’ Silver etc etc.


    Buffalo News: Paterson notes Kennedy’s ‘lack of elected experience’
    “The notion that I have to take Caroline is not coming from me,” Paterson said in an interview in his Capitol office with The Buffalo News.
    He said “gossip” has become a “greater force right now than my decision.”
    http://www.

    h****/***w

    buffalonews.com/home/story/543453.html

    This is not ‘sources close to’ or ‘aides’ or any other unnamed ‘sources’. This is Paterson himself being questioned directly by journalists in front of witnesses (and probably taped). The Buffalo News is a legitimate local newspaper.

  166. turndownobama-com Says:

    McCain was asked if he supported Palin in 2012. He said it was too soon to support anyone but praised her. This was spun as dissing her.
    ==================

    PS to my own. This was in a story dated Dec 15. Has there been something more recent? Url or key words pls?

  167. This is being attributed to Palin and described as ‘an endorsement’. I thought an endorsement stated that the candidate was the BEST CHOICE for the position, not just that she would be adequate per se.

    “I was not commenting at all on Caroline Kennedy as a prospective U.S. senator, but rather on the seemingly arbitrary ways in which news organizations determine the level and kind of scrutiny given to those who aspire to public office,” Gov. Palin said today. “In fact, I consider Ms. Kennedy qualified and experienced, and she could serve New York well.”

    h*****/ no w’s

    community.adn.com/adn/node/136414

    It has a comment string but I’m not registered and I’m going to bed! Maybe someone else can figure out what Palin really said in the context.

  168. Ms. Magazine is advertising an upcoming issue (content not released yet) with a cover depicting Obama as a ‘feminist.’

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  169. 1. I doubt that she said that. I suspect the statement was either invented or taken out of context. That is what big media does to promote its fictions. It fixes the evidence, and idiots fall for it.

    2. But let us assume for the that Palin said this. Is big media proffering that statement as endorsement. If so then it carries no weight whatsoever, since they have spent the last several months impugning her intellect and destroying her character. How can they now come forward and claim that she is competent to render a favorable decision on princess. Have they lost their marbles?

  170. Here are some additional contacts for Ms. Magazine:
    1. The publisher is Liberty Media for Women, LLC which is owned by the Feminist Majority Foundation. There is a form for comments here thought it does not go to a public ‘comments string’ but just sends email to LLC: :http://www.feminist.org/forms/comments.html

    The Feminist Majority has East and West Coast Offices:
    1600 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 801
    Arlington, VA 22209
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  171. Re Paterson and CK.

    Maybe I should register my wager that Paterson is going to reject CK. If he were yielding to pressure from the Kennedys and Obama, why criticize* her and them so openly first? Won’t that make them his enemies even if he does finally grudgingly select her?

    *per Buffalo News story quotes above

  172. More Excerpts from the article TDO linked upthread.

    “Paterson today said Kennedy has been assisted in her efforts by media outlets that have become consumed with the notion that the daughter of the slain President John F. Kennedy will become New York’s junior senator.

    “One thing that helps her is the tremendous attention that you all give her works to her advantage. Maybe if you didn’t give her so much attention she wouldn’t have it,” Paterson said. He said certain people, such as Clinton, have an advantage “just because of who they are.”

    “So I would ask the question back, why do you all pay so much attention to her? She’s just another person. So what? Her name is Kennedy? Why do you pay so much attention to her? I’m not reacting to what I think, I’m reacting to what I see,” he said.

    “But, on the other hand, her lack of elected experience does not help her, but the point is it’s the combination of experiences I’ll look at in terms of all the candidates, and also how balanced the ticket would look,” Paterson added.

  173. TDO,

    I saw McCain being intrviewed on Cavuto yesterday and I had to switch the channel after a couple of minutes.

    JM was fauning over BO and atrributing to him the Lincolnesque messianic qualities BM reports.

    It really was nauseating.

    ABM,

    I have only seen reports about the Oakland riots on Fox. BM is covering up the story. Wonder why? 👿

  174. The PEBO is now suffering a bad case of deer-in-the-headlights-syndrome and having no experience in financial dealings except on the receiving end his solution to just about any problem is
    Throw more money at it”.Money we no longer have or generate by what had been a very solvent and carefully administered economic programs as long as the pork happy congress was kept in check.After Hitler was defeated and hundreds of smal communities were restored to some stability as far as utilities water food distribution and the gathering up of all forms of weapons and ammo to be destroyed.I was overseeing the town of ZeLL a farming town with much of its infrastructure relatively intact and it was amazing to see its citizens carrying large bags and boxes of worthless Reichsmarks printed and made worthless by Adolf and his tax and spend policies that caused inflation to go sky high.He used useless prattle combined with a steady flow of propaganda to run his country and his people into a war tha deystroyed so many innocent people.I must sadly say that we are on that same path unless our leaders wake up from their dreams of cradle to grace employment and free lunches.The Repubs fear Hillary but respect her ability to handle just about any situation that faces her.The Dims hate her and are jealous of her popularity here at home and abroad and they are well aware of the horrible mistake they made in stealing the election for their poster boy and what a mistake it was.There is still time america to set things right and save our poor country.Have him appear before congressional leaders and ask.Who are you?.Where did you come from?Where is your BC?.Who bankrolled your assault on our electoral system?If he can clear up these questions and gie the people a clear plan for fixing all the problems that he has created by the introduction of the race card to scare the hell out of good honest hard working people that had some high hopes for him.Time has run out folks and strong legal actions must take place starting yesterday.

    BY ABM90 Hillary Bill your country needs you now more than ever in our past history.

  175. ABM,

    Ya know, I had thought BO’s incessant use of the race card would render it meaningless but looks like I was wrong.

    The race card is here to stay and could, IMHO, be the catalyst for a Second American Civil War.

    What do you think?

  176. SOooo!! WHO’S NEXT? THE ILLEGAL ALIEN AUNT IN BOSTON? THE HALF BROTHER IN AFRICA WHO LIVES IN A HUT?
    COUSIN ODINGA??? OR MAYBE IT WILL BE THOSE INDONESIAN RELATIVES LMAO!!

    AMERICA …HELL IN A HEN BASKET……THE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST

    On Friday, the transition team of President-elect Barack Obama confirmed that his 71-year-old mother-in-law would be moving, at least temporarily, into the grand residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    nytimes. com /2009/01/10/us/politics/10marian.html?hp

  177. wbboei Says:

    January 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    Carol: I think it is a distinct possibility. There are other scenarios as well as the ones you mention. But between now and then the power of big media must be broken. I believe that will happen. They are joined to Obama at the hip and they will go down together.

    I can’t see how the power of big media can be broken. How do you see that as possible?

  178. Carol, I am not an expert on this, but the big media will be broken by the subscribers and advertisers, just af the reduction of these areas is breaking the newspapers.

    The readers, and the advertisers are headed toward the Internet.

  179. Jan

    doesn’t surprise me, but perhaps the media could then ask her first hand about her statement on bergs tape how she witnessed barack born in kenya! * grin*

  180. it’s time for me to go to work, but wanted to let everyone know i wont be online much this week if at all, I have a pretty busy week ahead…. but I look forward to coming back and count on this site to keep me updated when i return

    have a great week everyone!!

  181. NewMexicoFan Says:

    January 10th, 2009 at 9:38 am
    Carol, I am not an expert on this, but the big media will be broken by the subscribers and advertisers, just af the reduction of these areas is breaking the newspapers.

    I agree that newspapers are in trouble, but I see cable news immune to that.

  182. Carol: the economic power of print media is fast eroding. Just yesterday, one of the two newspapers in our town, now a Hearst publication, but one that traces its roots back to the civil war announced that it will be closing its doors. You know the others that are in trouble like the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune–and others I am sure. This also diminishes the economic power of the Associated Press which is the root of so much bias, and disiformation.

    The broadcast media is more lethal to our society at this point. If they were graded like they grade cancers our Big Media would be a 4. They are parasitic and over time destroy the host. They fully supported Bush, Iraq, Obama–need I say more.

    Today, they have a monopoly–and I believe Bambi in his anti-Robinhood schitct of stealing from the poor and giving to the rich has agreed to protect their monopoly. If so that would explain their slavish devotion to him which contradicts everything you lean in Journalism 101.

    What will emerge however is a credible alternative. Mathews has enunciated their business plan–which is to protect him at all cost against the truth, accounablility for his actions and the best interests of the country. This will require that they lie mor and more aggressively. And when they do people will stop lisening to them.

    They know and so do we that they are selling an intangible. Its entire value depends on the credibility its audience accords to it. Trust me people will not want to hear them tell us how great Obama is, or that it is all the Republicans fault when the wolf is at the door. They will be slow to react and go down with the ship.

    Right now the only missing piece is a credible alterantive. That will come as the internet develops standards and reporting capabilities. My hope is that the foreign news will gain greater access to our viewing audience. It will start when you hear people say we have just heard what Andera Mitchell has just told us about the theory of realtivity, quantum mechanics and Planks Law. Lets see if the BBC sees it the same way.

    When that happens I say the kingdom of god is at hand. We now have a thinking voter who wants the truth–one who will not be bamboozled. At that point Big Media will fail, because it is too adicted to power to revert to truth.

    heir very commitment to defend him against the truth at all cost they will hang theBut the internet and global media will undermine their influence. A credible alternative will emerge. Their opinions are distasteful to the American Public.

    What has not emerged yet is a credible alternative to the broadcast media which is where the grade 4 cancer is. It is lethal to our society, and I could easily make the case. Bush, Iraq, Obama.

  183. Sorry about the last two paragrahs.

    My argument is simple and straighforward: Big Media is destroying this society by corrupting the decision making process. The net effect is poor leaders and improvident policies. Bush, Iraq, Obama were their babies. Each was a mistake. How many successive mistakes can an entity make before there are dire consequences. They created those consequences when they abandoned the truth and became propagandists. I live for the day when someone starts quoting WashPo and people look at him like he is an idiot, or simply say you know there are more relable opinions to consider, such as . . . BBC, etc.

  184. I couldn’t agree with your more about the state of the media and I hope that I in some small way have contributed to the demise of the NYT by cancelling my lifelong subscription.
    However, many educated people I know are just lazy about getting the news; they turn on the TV for news and are slowly brainwashed. The broadcast news cycles repeatedly in waiting rooms, etc.. Sad to say, even in my own family who were all Hillary supporters, they all got on board with BO and voted for him. I can’t confince my father to ditch the NYT or at least question everything he reads there.

  185. Carol, this might sound wierd, but I think it is those online now that will start changing things. I talk all the time to people I know about different issues they do not even know exisited. I use links from big pink to clue them in. They are starting to say, why don’t we know about this stuff.

    I even had my hair dresser say, where are you getting your information. So I tell them. I am now being fed by some of them with information they are finding on the web.

  186. Below is an example of other people feeding stuff. I got this from a friend.

    Please pass this on. If the media won’t air this video maybe we can do it by having people take a look at this video.

    When WND columnist Janet Porter when tried to purchase airtime for a 60-second commercial publicizing the eligibility issue, CNBC, MSNBC, Headline News, CNN and Fox all refused to sell her airtime. The ad to be broadcast is available on YouTube.

    youtube.com/watch?v=YYdk26ezVio

  187. basil9: Good morning.In my humble opinion the race card is here to stay it is his barrier or defense tool to stem all criticism of his bound to be a disaster administration and it is working so far.Lies can be exposed and prooved but the race defense is the one most feared by good honest hard working Americans that see what is happening to our grand country.Has it not been in the scheme of things when power hungry self-annointed egomaniacs split and conquer the populance into the good the bad and the helpless.The MSM does not place any negatives in their news about the chosen one his followers are doing buying reading and keeping a dying industry afloat for now.We must have a radical change in our beliefs that we are united country infact division has never been so widespread deadly and becoming a huge
    destabilizing monster that will destroy any chance for a return to
    sense and sensebility and a good life for our children.

    BY ABM90. In my long life I have seen and experienced wars depressions civil strife good bad and ugly times and periods and the basic truths lie in the hearts of those that put the well being of themselves at the expense of others.The lust for power,the lust for wealth and the lust for unfettered control is at the root of this disaster facing us and it will begin to unfold Jan 20 2009.
    As FDR called Dec 7 1941 “A Day Of Infamy”

  188. Carol: if you want to contribute in a large way, show them the following article about Obama. It was written by a good friend of mine whose family has a 100 year history in the newspaper business and deplore it for the wasteland it has become. It pulls back the curtain on his past, and predicts what his game plan is here. She believes the sos overhaul is a political ruse to distract the public and buy time.

    Your friends and family who trust NYT need to undertand that they are being lied to. Some people dont care if its true they just want to be entertained. Those people are a waste of time.

    Obama’s ideas on how economic recovery should make anyone who understands Obama, his history, and the history of Japan run screaming in terror. First of all, in the eighties, Japan tried an economic recovery plan that was based on stimulating their recovery by pouring money into rebuilding their infrastructure. It failed. Japan went into a ten year recession.

    Now, let’s discuss Obama’s ideas on cleaning up corruption and pouring money into our infrastructure. In Chicago, public/private partnerships in real estate rehabilitation started when Obama worked for the Davis law firm whose owner,Allison Davis was also a real estate developer and a great friend of Tony Rezko. Starting about 1993 and over the next four years Rezko and his partner Tony Mahru built up a stable of over 30 public housing projects they were supposed to rehabilitate. By 1997, the paperwork they submitted claimed they had finished rehabilitating a 31 unit on the South Side of Chicago called Englewood. Then one of the most brutal winters in recent history set in. Residents in Englewood found themselves without heat. Chicago inspectors turned to Rezko and Mahru, the responsible parties, to get the heat turned on for these people. Rezko and Mahru couldn’t find the money. Their corporation, Rezmar, did find money to contribute to the political fund of the newly elected State Senator, Barack Obama, whose district contained 11 Rezko-Mahru projects, all of whom were in trouble. For his part, Senator Obama loved the idea of public/private partnerships in the housing arena. He co-authored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. And as a presidential candidate he promised to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year. Given the trillion dollar pork package he wants by Jan 21, this is of course chump change and will probably not raise an eye brow.

    However, if that money is well spent, who knows, if might be a good idea. Let’s take a look at the results in Obama’s district. Many of these buildings are beyond repair, many are boarded up, hundreds of the apartments are vacant and in need of repair, and to add injury to insult, the taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

    Because many of Rezko’s disasters were in Obama’s own district he received plenty of complaints. He just didn’t bother to respond to them. So much for his ability or desire to implement oversight.

    One thing Obama does do is reward his friends. Getting past Rezko, Mahru, and Davis, we can turn to a woman named Valerie Jarret. She is Senate Candidate number one in the current complaint against Gov. Blagojevich. She withdrew her name from consideration one day after the Govenor of Illinois discussed her candidacy on tape. Now she is going with Obama to the White House to be part of his staff.

    But then, Jarrett has done a lot for Obama. She was the chief executive officer of Habitat Co., which managed Grove Parc Plaza, (another Rezko special) from 2001 until the winter of 2008 and co-managed an even larger subsidized complex in Chicago that was seized by the federal government in 2006, after city inspectors found widespread problems. Jarrett became a senior adviser to Obama’s presidential campaign and a member of his finance committee. Jarrett is now going to Washington to serve on Obama’s White House staff.

    What is Grove Parc Plaza? It is a 504 apartment complex in what was Obama’s district that is subsidized by the federal government for people who can’t afford to live anywhere else. And one would have to be down and out to live there becuause by any measurable standard, it’s not safe. During the Rezko reign, Grove Parc became a symbol for the failures in of using taxpayer money to partner with private developers to build and manage affordable housing. Obama still thinks this approach is the best replacement for public housing.

    Here are the results of Grove Parc Plaze and perhaps another great example of Obama’s poor judgment.

    Of the 504 units, at Grove Parc Plaza, 20 percent are vacant, but rentable. Many have been rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems due to collapsed roofs and fire damage. The rodent population is out of control and they openly scatter through the hallways. Much of the plumbing leaks continually, is backed up with sewage, or doesn’t work at all. As units became uninhabitable, the tenants became homeless. And the neighborhoods surrounding these disgraces have also deteriorated. Obama claims to have “consistently fought to make livable, affordable housing in mixed neighborhoods available to all.”

    Nice rhetoric. The truth his he fought to get his friends and supporters jobs and tax payer money. Now, he is trying to scare a nation into believing that he will lead us out of the current recession. One need only take a tour of Grove Parc Plaza to understand how little he cares about “the common folk.” And if you need further proof, all you have to do is remember his recent vacation in the 9 million dollar condo in Hawaii. He is good at public speaking. He is good at looking out for his own needs. He is good at getting pork for his his friends and supporters. If we allow him, he will take us all to the cleaners and then go on about his business. Let’s not allow what happened to Grove Parc Plaza and Englewood become the failed infrastucture projects of 2009. We will never be in dire enough straits to need that kind of fix.

  189. Remember he tried to put Jarrett in the senate position. Now she is in the White House. There are those who believe she should be in jail. The foregoing article is merely the tip of the iceberg. Blag and Rezko have the facts on her. Lets see if we are not hearing her name again in another year or so. These things work their way through the legal process slowly but they do not just go away.

  190. The big joke on the far left is this: their messiah is bought and paid for by big business, their arch enemy. If they do not get that by now they are pretty stupid.

  191. If they were not so blinded by misogyny, and high school dramatis they would realize that Hillarys values are in many respects closer to theirs than Obamas. That is of course the final irony–and incontroverbile proof of their decadence.

  192. What 0bama has done to Dean and Brazille is inexplicable. Or is it that he knows it will be too obvious if he rewards them? I think he has a disdain for foot licking sycophants.

    Admin, my opinion of him goes from one extreme to the other — treacherous one day and naive another day. May be they are connected, treacherous because naive. It is as one blogger at American Thinker said, he is a fool with energy?

  193. ABM.
    The ‘victim’ card is used all too successfully by terrorosts worldwide.

    Look at the way Hamas screams genocide while using their kids and women as human shields. They scram ‘foul’ while saying in their charer that their goal is to incinerate Israel and wipe all non-Islamists off the face of the map.

    IMHO, BO’s tactics are similar to Hamas but instead of threatening suicide bombings and death BO threatens people’s reputations. Unfortuantely, too many idiots are afraid to defend themselves against irrational and false charges thus we have the ‘white guilt’ mentality that put BO in the WH.

    I wonder how many Palestinians are so afraid of being labeled Jew-lovers if they don’t go along with the Hamas agenda that they cave to the pressure rather than risk death.

    There are too many cowards in the world controlled by a handful of bullies. I guess that’s the human condition.

    🙁

  194. AS I’m doing errands I’m listening to (watching) the dedication of the USS George H.W. Bush and as the naval officers sing the Star Spangled Banner I wonder what will happen to our national anthem once BO is sworn in.

    I remember years ago, during the first Gulf War, being filled with hate for GWB and his policies.

    Now I have far more respect for him, his naval service, his love of the country than I will ever have for the Huckster. Anyone else hear that one of the events on his website is ‘Throw-a-shoe-at-Bush” day on January 19th?

    BO has no respect for women, for the military, for US history, for traditions, for the constitution. The list is endless.

    What a sad commentary on our nation that this could be one of the last patriotic events in our lifetimes.

  195. this is just some thoughts I have today

    on fiscal matters I am a conservative, but on personal issues I am liberal minded.

    imo “moderates” are the equivalent of “don’t ask don’t tell”

    The problem with being moderate imo is that the agenda is a hidden one. I think that is the reason we have no accountability.

    once we blurred the lines between the ideologies we lost our voices.

    We elect certain indviduals that straddle both sides and are forgiven their transgressions when they vote against our beliefs because they know surely when election time comes they must throw us a bone to appease us

    balance comes not from compromise but from fighting like hell til you win what you want knowing full well the otherside will do the same.

    what we have now is legislation that has so many stipulations and amendments (compromise) that they are basically rendered useless to their original meaning.

    I welcome anyone who can recall legislation that has directly benefited the American people on a grand scale outside Social Security and the Americans with Disabilities Act
    (I’m sure there are a “few” more)

    I wonder what a far left agenda would be like for a change, even though many of us fear the thought of extremes. after Bushco it might really wake me the hell up, sweet dream or nightmare as it may be.

    anyway just what happening in my head

  196. WBBOEI, you are so right to be incensed about what it happening to us.
    For a criminal regime to achieve and retain power it must first insure that its populace is as uninformed as possible. We have endured long years of lousy support of public education, a thinly veiled contempt for teachers and librarians, a actual disdain for culture and the life of the mind. It is not a surprise that the broadcasters and print media routinely serve up propaganda, fluff and nonsense because that is what our diet has become. How can people nourished by this sort of constant misinformation possibly be able to make an informed decision about their government? They can’t. The quality of our press has been declining for years. Now it has become so lamentable that most of the papers are struggling to survive. Good riddance, I say. Television seems to get along on a steady diet of commercial advertising that is so awful it makes one weep. Even at that, the number of viewers is drastically down. Magazines which do a thorough and honest job of conveying information have dwindled to one or two. This is the result of the relentless pursuit of profit above all else.
    In the last three presidential elections we have been saddled with an idiot-savant who was then re-elected and now a flim-flam man whose personal integrity and record of achievement augur very poorly for our future in these hard times.
    Somehow we have to bypass our own crippled press. It has been turned into a shill for the money people. The media have no regard whatever for the plight of ordinary people and no responsibility to what used to be called the profession of journalism. Many of us have simply stopped watching TV and reading newspapers because it is a waste of time. There may be a few like John Kass and Tony Lewis who are consistently forthcoming and not afraid, but all the reliable sources these days seem to come from the UK – BBC, The Guardian, etc.
    TurnDown Obama has started a sterling site – MIDSTREAMNEWS.COM where there are links to dependable writing – and at least that’s a start. This cadre of ours on 44 can be the source of thoughtful resistance to the profound deterioration of our educational system, our means of informing the population of serious matters and our government which has lost its way.

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