Obama’s Year End Circus Big Top

Updated: Video added – New Year’s Eve, New York 2008-2009.
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This last day of the year is the whole political year condensed.

Let’s review the past 24 hours as it relates to the past year:

Race-baiting Obama-style (meaning charges of racism as a political ploy which insults the real civil rights movement as the charges are devoid of any substance, indeed those yelling “racism” are the race-baiters) is back in the headlines; Obama is on a cushy Bushy vacation, again; national Dimocrats are stumbling and bumbling and full of corrupt intentions; Illinois has a scam African-American senator (to replace a scam African-American senator who never did anything for the citizens of Illinois but rather used the office only for his own personal advancement); Obama engaged in guilt by association after bogus years long complaints protesting guilt by association (meaning Obama does not like those who remember his 20 years plus associations with people like bomber Bill Ayres, Jeremiah Wright, Reverend Meeks, and our favorite Antoin “Tony” Rezko); a Big Pink serial is interrupted by breaking corruption news from Chicago (the New York Story Part II will continue with the Chuck Schumer portion in the New Year); Hillary and Bill Clinton are proving once again they are a class act loved by New Yorkers; Caroline Kennedy is invisible and nowhere to be found, again; and more and more of the Hopium addled are realizing that … Obama can’t be trusted… Obama simply can’t be trusted.

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In the past 24 hours Governor Blagojevich, pal to the wheeler-dealer corrupt of Illinois, proved again how corrupt Illinois politicians and Dimocrats nationally are. Blagojevich appointed a replacement for Obama’s senate seat and the hypocrite Dimocrats yelped.

But it is the Dimocrats who authored this ugly comedy. It was Illinois Dimocrats who called a special session of the legislature to strip Blagojevich of the appointment power but then, once they realized the Republicans could possibly win the senate seat in Obama Culture Of Corruption Illinois, the Dimocrats abandoned the purpose of the special session.

It was Majority Leader Senator Harry Reid who wrote and sent a letter -which the ENTIRE Senate Democratic caucus signed as well – which torpedoed the scheduling of a special election to allow the citizens of Illinois to elect the Senator who would replace do-nothing Obama.

Blagojevich acted after he saw the Dimocrats would do nothing in order to maintain their own power to dictate appointments.

Blagojevich is annoying the Dimocrats and Obama because he is stealing headlines which ordinarily be used to praise Obama – the selected.

And the Obama Drama with Blagojevich will not end anytime soon. Patrick Fitzgerald is seeking a 90 day extension of time to indict Blagojevich.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has filed a motion seeking a 90-day extension to return of an indictment against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Federal prosecutors normally have 30 days to file an indictment against a defendant. That deadline would have been Jan. 7, and the extension would give prosecutors until April 7 instead.

Authorities arrested Blagojevich on Dec. 9 on corruption charges that accuse him of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat to the highest bidder.

Blagojevich has denied any wrongdoing.

In the motion filed Wednesday, prosecutors ask for more time because ”multiple witnesses” have come forward in recent weeks and investigators have to review ”thousands of intercepted phone calls.”

And every day finds Obama running away from his past.

While Obama vacationed, some of the main characters from his political past took turns starring in a bizarre Chicago news conference. First to the lectern was embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was arrested this month on federal corruption charges, and from whom Obama has worked to distance himself. Blagojevich then introduced Roland Burris, his appointment to fill Obama’s seat in the U.S. Senate. Burris once held a fundraiser at his house for Obama and calls the president-elect “somebody whose career I really helped launch.”

Then, near the end of the news conference, Rep. Bobby L. Rush was beckoned to the front of the room, where he asked the public not to “lynch” Burris because of the charges against Blagojevich. Rush defeated Obama in a 2000 House race and chided him as an “educated fool” before eventually endorsing him for president and asserting that “I helped teach him.”

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Those who Caroline Kennedy stabbed in the back this past year – New Yorkers and especially Hillary and Bill Clinton – will be celebrating tonight. For New Yorkers, especially Hillary and Bill Clinton, this will be a special night as Hillary and Bill Clinton will be bringing in the New Year at Times Square. Hillary has also been named by the Daily News as the New Yorker Of The Year.

For carrying the banner of a history-making candidacy with a resolve and class worthy of this city — in victory and defeat — we today salute Hillary Clinton as the Daily News New Yorker of the Year for 2008.

We salute Hillary Clinton too. Whatever optimism we have for what looks to be a bleak next year is due primarily to Hillary Clinton. So thank you once again to Hillary.

To all our readers, with resolve, joy, and determination, not blind hope:

Happy New Year!

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319 thoughts on “Obama’s Year End Circus Big Top

  1. “But it is the Dimocrats who authored this ugly comedy.”

    Admin,

    I never in a million years ever thought that I would despise a party I once respected wholeheartedly. We really do need a new party to come out of the ashes of this catastrophe, one that embodies all the values that a democratic party should.

  2. Thank you Admin for such an inspiring start of the New Year 2009.You are the source of our news and understanding of what we face with the new usurpers of our democratic process and the troubling times ahead.The entire world will have its eyes on Hillary and will welcome her wisdom and commitment to solving the difficult problems ahead and restoring peace to a world hungry for the return to stability and prosperity.She will be invaluble as the new SOS and not buried in a Senate filled with jealousy and backstabing political hacks.Tonight is her night in NY and the coming coronation of the new CIC will just be a time worn gesture of protocol and soon regreted by an aprehensive and worried world community.

    By ABM90 Good wishes Hillary and Bill and your amazing Daughter Chelsea.God speed on your new journey.

  3. “…a Big Pink serial is interrupted by breaking corruption news from Chicago (the New York Story Part II will continue with the Chuck Schumer portion in the New Year);:

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

    The NERVE, the AUDACITY of interrupting the Hot Rod Soap!

    Happy New Year everyone, and especially to the New Yorker of the year, HRC.

  4. 😳

    I meant, the nerve of interrupting the New York soaps with the
    Blago soaps.

    Although I gotta admit the Chi-town farce is hands-down winner of the ’08 top comedy category. Blago reminds me of John Travolta in that solo dance scene from Saturday Night Fever.

    He’s even got the same hair style.

  5. Admin and all, this was the first blog I found last year when I was distraught at Hillary’s prospects. You have been a huge support group for all the ups and downs. Thank you and a Happy New Year!

  6. Happy New Year to all of ya here and the readers..

    ANd to the most Electable one and Most Important smart one
    and so admired and the Powerfullest women over anyone on this Planet

    Hillary happy NEW year..you care for OUR Country at least your not hiding somewhere over seas…She will bring the change not bo…and Michelle doesnt like this country she has not been proud of it of her entire life..that is why she isn’t on the list..she just became proud of it
    this past year..i wonder if that is a lie too…

    she even outbeats president elect who is hiding from Blagovich in hawaii…

    That is why he is there Hot Rod Blago is smarter than BO…he hides from anyone who knows something about OBama..Chicago poilitics might get down right dirty before he even is sworn in..he might set his white house in hawaii …someone said that above .. i wouldnt put that past him..change to Hawaiii..lol…at least i dont have to hear him stutter..or listen toLIES or stolen Ideas he has none of his own..
    and Rod has the media now..lol..smart man im rooting for him..

  7. I would like to wish the Clintons, Admin, and Hillaryis44 members a prosperous and happy new year! May all of you achieve your dreams, be at peace, and triumph against evil!

    And may Hillary soar to the sky as SOS!

  8. Dickie Morris and Dennis Miller mentally challenged hate mongers used by FOX to malign Hillary.Fair and Balance news is a farce and should be boycotted by all.Theyare two sick and perverted sidekicks for the great self loving Bill O.Real stomach turners this trio and give off a repulsive stench.

    By ABM90 A MSM out of control is a reality folks

  9. ABM90,

    Those three join a long list of idiots whose egos are bigger than their brains.

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    Happy New Year to you my friend!

  10. Admin, thank you for being a beacon of light and knowledge during the dark moments of the past year. Happy New Year, and may your great writings continue, in 2009.

    Happy New Year to all the great posters on this blog. All of you, have brightened my days, and lightened some of the sadness over the events during the past year. This blog is one of few refuges of sanity on the internet. Thanks to all of you.

  11. JanH Says:

    December 31st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
    ABM90,

    Those three join a long list of idiots whose egos are bigger than their brains. you got that right…. Media news is down the tubes no truth to any newsroom person..who supported the LIAR Ob..

    Happy NEW year admin be getting my real news here…
    waiting to see Hillary and BILL ON TV ILl give ratings
    to them for there care for the People of the United States..

    I wonder how many ciagrettes BO smoked since Blago is
    the Hot rod news ITEM..does Axlerod smoke i hope they dont get the white house yellows walls and curtains and stuff and paitings ewwwww.. i wonder if he will smoke in the oval office ..

  12. Happy new year, Hillfriends. I wish you all a prosperous, peaceful and fulfilling 2009. Thank you all again for your knowledge and support in 2008. To our heroine, Hillary, our role model and leader, I wish you and the irrepressible Bill an exciting and productive new year. May Hillary shine her light into the world as SOS! Cheers, all!

  13. Happy New Year to everyone here on Hillary is 44! Happy New Year to Hillary who I have no doubt will be a shining star in ’09. And to O I wish you luck but expect that your time in office will be controversial…an interesting 12 months ahead I am sure…

  14. and a little news tonight…don’t know if this has been posted before…

    Fitzgerald Bugged “Thousands” of Phone Calls in Recent Blago Probe [Byron York]

    Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has asked a court to give him a 90-day extension of the time allowed to secure an indictment against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. In a new filing, Fitzgerald reveals that he intercepted “thousands” of phone calls between late October and early December. He also says that “multiple witnesses have come forward in recent weeks to discuss their knowledge of criminal activity in relation to the ongoing investigation,” and that there are “multiple defendants and potential defendants.” Fitzgerald adds there are other reasons for his request, but says they must remain sealed. Also says that the overall Blago investigation began in “approximately 2003.” If the court agrees, Fitzgerald will have until April 7 to indict.

    12/31 01:37 PM

    corner.nationalreview.com/

  15. Happy New Year Admin and all – how great to have everyone’s company and Admin’s leadership as we grew to become political “independents” together. I hope we resolve to stick it out together until Hillary becomes 45.

  16. I had wondered what predictions from the psychics might be for 2009. The first one I accessed was Sylvia Browne and here is what she said about politics:

    I predict the President elected sometime between 2008 and 2020 will die in office from a heart attack. The Vice President who will finish their term will have an unpopular and mistaken intention to declare war on North Korea. By that time, North Korea will have weapons of mass destruction. In the middle of efforts to declare war, I predict the Vice President will be assassinated.

    There will be a worldwide investigation into the Vice President’s death with both pleasant and unpleasant surprises. A lot of attention will be paid to one of the investigative congressional committees and serious accusations will be made regarding missing funds. Finally, it will be revealed that their accusations are part of a conspiracy to damage the American people’s faith in their government, with the media manipulated to “fan the flames,” and the committee will be vindicated in the end.

  17. ShortTermer,

    Those are some very grave and shocking predictions. I wouldn’t wish ill on my worst enemy, but it will be interesting to see what other notable psychics have to say.

  18. HNY, Jen!
    Thank you again, Admin, for keeping this place for likeminded Hillfans to meet and share ideas. And thank you for your insightful analysis. Happy 2009 to you, Admin!

  19. HNY, Jen!
    Thank you again, Admin, for keeping this place for likeminded Hillfans to meet and share ideas. And thank you for your insightful analysis. Happy 2009 to you, Admin!

  20. Happy New Year from Carmel. Don’t post often these days but always glad to find you here for the news. All of you posters at Big Pink and NQ are almost the only sources I trust for the news anymore…and yes, O’Reilly has lost it but thankfully we still have Greta. Thanks for clarity, sincerity, honesty and many laughs. Let’s hope 2009 brings truth and honor back to our country…somehow, some way.

  21. Inninois,

    It was worth saying twice!
    Yay admin keep up the good work!
    Yay admin keep up the good work!

    Admin can be trusted for great work!
    Admin can be trusted for great work!
    Admin can be trusted for great work!
    Admin can be trusted…..!

  22. I only caught a few moments of the Clintons and Mayor Bloomberg and the clock in Times Sq. but she looked wonderful — happy and beautiful. She and Bill danced and it was heartwarming.

    Now that we have a third Bush in the WH in terms of splashy multi-vacations, our fate is in Hillary’s hands and the other appointees. Of course, BO has told us he is the decider so let us hope his team are the persuaders.

  23. admin –

    thank you for your fantastic resolve and attention to detail. As I have said before, I miss Media Whores Online, and you are very reminiscent of their insight and determination.

    I hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year.

    On another note, I feel like I am in Bizarro World watching the Democrats refuse to seat a well-qualified black man in an empty Senate seat. Who would have ever thought we would see that? Not me. Not me.

  24. Basement Angel, we all miss Media Whores Online. It is a website that is sorely needed.

    Freckles, we looked for a good Sinatra version of this song but could not find one – so Perry Como will have to do.

    As you write, our fate is in Hillary’s hands. This one is about and for Hillary:

  25. I was looking to see if Bill and Hillary were on TV in Times Square, and caught a performance by Sir Elton John. I’ll never forget his support of Hillary.

    I don’t normally use those titles like Sir, but Sir Elton John is noble and wise. As are all you people who are capable of seeing and recognizing the nobility and wisdom of Hillary and Bill.

    A Happy New Year to you all!

  26. Please add my thanks and appreciation to those wishes already extended. Happy New Year too.

    I’m so pleased you are continuing the good fight because it will be a long one. This morning CBSNY reported that Caroline Kennedy’s move toward the Senate is gaining steam. They base it on the fact that NY Dem Sheldon Silver (hope I’ve remembered that name correctly) has changed his mind – is now for CK. Of course no mention of the considerable internet objections was noted.

    Onward and upward into 2009!

    PS: Thanks for the AP video of Bill/Hill in Times Square; not surprisingly, there is little note of it on TV.

  27. Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but I was flipping channels looking for Hillary and Bill in Times Square last night. I stopped for a second on CNN, just in time to watch Anderson Cooper put his foot in his mouth for the umpteenth time. Ms. Griffith was reprimanding him for not calling Bill by his official name, i.e. Former President Bill Clinton. You could tell Anderson was embarassed…lol…idiot that he is.

  28. Obama And That Other Ponzi Scheme
    President-elect’s name may emerge in Norman Hsu fraud trial

    DECEMBER 31–As if being linked to one high-profile criminal case weren’t enough, President-elect Barack Obama’s name may soon pop up in another federal prosecution, this one involving a massive Ponzi scheme (no, the other massive Ponzi scheme). In addition to the Rod Blagojevich pay-for-play probe, Obama could figure in the upcoming fraud trial of Norman Hsu, the disgraced Democratic fundraiser who was charged last year with operating a $60 million pyramid scheme. According to investigators, Hsu, a major Hillary Clinton fundraiser, pressured investors to donate money to political candidates with whom he was aligned. In a letter last week to U.S. District Court Judge Victor Marrero, Hsu’s lawyer, Martin Cohen, requested a 60-day delay in the start of Hsu’s trial, scheduled to open January 12 (Cohen cited the “extraordinary level of negative publicity” generated by the recent arrest of alleged Ponzi schemer Bernard Madoff). In his December 22 letter, a copy of which you’ll find below, Cohen also noted that Hsu was already “notorious for his political activities” and that it was “inevitable” that his client’s “connections” to Bill and Hillary Clinton “and other democratic notables–including perhaps the president-elect–will be introduced at trial.” Before becoming a key fundraiser for Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid, Hsu co-hosted a 2005 California fundraiser for Obama’s political action committee and introduced the Illinois Democrat to Marc Gorenberg, a Silicon Valley venture capitalist who later joined the Obama campaign’s national finance committee. Prosecutors allege that Hsu directed his investors to donate money to specific candidates, and then reimbursed them in violation of federal campaign laws. Unswayed by Cohen’s argument, Marrero declined to delay the trial, which will begin a week before Obama’s inauguration. (6 pages)

    thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1231082hsu1.html

  29. Thanks, Admin- for posting the video. I hadn’t seen it. Bill and Hill look great. I hope Hillary will give Bill her full confidence when she assumes the SOS position. Hoping Hillary knows or understands she is always at risk of being blindsided by the pros that will be working side by side and for her. Hillary can just as easily wake up one morning finding herself the recipient of an unwanted scandal.. engineered by her stalkers (co-workers).

    Hillary’s remembrances of the pirating that went on within her own campaign should be first and foremost in her mind. She needs to be completely candid with Bill and allow him free reign over the security of both their reputations…

    Kerry will be Hillary’s stalking horse. I’m sure he is still smarting from the oversight and once promised SOS position…. PLEASE BE AWARE, be very AWARE!

  30. Reevaluating media regulations
    Tough times may call for lax restrictions

    w w w . variety.com/article/VR1117997876.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

  31. Hogan: if he (Billy Casper) could not putt he would be selling hotdogs outside the ropes.

    Anon: if he (Anderson Cooper) were not a Vanderbilt he would be selling tricks on the lower west side of Manhattan.

  32. Thanks Admin for that video of Bill and Hillary. This brought tears to my eyes knowing she will not be the president of the US. Shame, Shame, Shame

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE

  33. WorldNetDaily Exclusive
    Eligibility case finds ‘standing’?
    New suit claims unique state law enables citizens to demand proof

    –WND

    WorldNetDaily Exclusive
    Berg files new challenge to eligibility
    ‘There is nothing more important than our U.S. Constitution’

    AOL: Growing majority worried over eligibility
    Even half in Illinois say issue should be reviewed, resolved

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    But the latest results from the America Online poll reveal that nationwide only 41 percent of the participants now believe there is no issue to be investigated.

    Fifty-three percent nationwide, and majorities in 45 states individually, say “yes” when asked if there is “any merit” to the controversy surrounding his citizenship. Even in Obama’s own state, Illinois, the opinion is split 47-47 percent on the issue.

    AOL POLL: news . aol . com /political-machine/2008/12/05/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/

  34. oklahomahills Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 6:58 am
    I was looking to see if Bill and Hillary were on TV in Times Square, and caught a performance by Sir Elton John. I’ll never forget his support of Hillary.

    I don’t normally use those titles like Sir, but Sir Elton John is noble and wise. As are all you people who are capable of seeing and recognizing the nobility and wisdom of Hillary and Bill.
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    Correct. Moreover, he deplored the sexism of the media as it realted to Hillary. He called the game on them. That took courage, and in the moment of decision he proved that he had it.

    Many people who could not say good things about Hillary when it counted are stepping forward now and saying them. The New York Daily News is but the latest example.

    The important thing however is they were not there at the moment of decision. In 1946 every Paisianne recalled that during the war he or she was a member of the resistance.

    There is one thing I do not doubt, and no one who lives in the same world as most of us can doubt–if they are honest, and that is this:

    First Lady, Senator, now Secretrary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is the finest American leader of this generation. At this unique moment in history and in this troubled world she will lead our country and the world to a better future.

    That said, if people like Kerry try to undermine her which is always a possiblilty we would do well to recall his little hissy fit where he hurled the medals which his country awarded him and not scruple to call him the traitor.

  35. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE HERE AT BIG PINK!!

    Let’s all hope we see REAL change in our government [obama, rezko and blago become room mates ] and MSM [all go bankrupt and some real journalist with integrity take over] in 2009!!

    Thank you ADMIN for your very educating articles!! I LOVE BIG PINK!!!

  36. If Silver has reversed his strongly worded opposition to the Princess and is not supporting her, it raises three plausible inferences: i) either he has taken leave of his senses, ii) he was lying before, or iii) he is being blackmailed. Knowing how the Chicago and Kennedy machines operate it is almost certainly the latter. Yes, I know, it sounds too . . . conspiratorial, but the funny thing is it is probably true. The proffered justification will be interesting. The Republicans who have little else to sell at this moment can make hay out of this–Peter King and his state legislative friends.

  37. Jan 1, 2009 12:12 pm US/Eastern
    Bill Clinton A Possible N.Y. Senate ‘Caretaker?’
    Democrats Pushing Paterson To Name Temp Replacement For Hillary; Scenario Sets Up Wild Election In 2010
    NEW YORK (CBS/AP) ―

    wcbstv . com /politics/ny.caretaker.senator.2.897875.html

  38. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
    That said, if people like Kerry try to undermine her which is always a possiblilty we would do well to recall his little hissy fit where he hurled the medals which his country awarded him and not scruple to call him the traitor.
    ************
    I think it was the late Col. David Hackworth who, when visiting Sen. Kerry’s office, noticed an elaborate wall display featuring Kerry’s Vietnam Combat decorations. It is no clear what Kerry threw over the White house fence.

  39. wbboei Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    …First Lady, Senator, now Secretrary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is the finest American leader of this generation. At this unique moment in history and in this troubled world she will lead our country and the world to a better future….

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    Amen wbboei! And may I say that I learn so much from your brilliant posts. Thank you so much for the needed education!

  40. “For now sits Expectations in the air, and hides a sword from hilts unto the point with crowns imperial. Crowns and coronets, Promised to Harry and his followers.”
    ===============

    And who will really do the job — Hermione!

  41. More on CK/Silver: …”I’ve rethought the fact that the governor makes the selection and in the ultimate determination it is what the governor wants,” Silver said.

    And in a sign that Kennedy is starting to move to the front of the pack sources close to Gov. Paterson admitted that they had a hand in Silver’s change of heart. This as Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey, a top Kennedy strategist, continued his push for her candidacy….

    wcbstv dot com/politics/caroline.kennedy.us.2.897946.html

  42. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    If Silver has reversed his strongly worded opposition to the Princess and is not supporting her, it raises three plausible inferences: i) either he has taken leave of his senses, ii) he was lying before, or iii) he is being blackmailed. Knowing how the Chicago and Kennedy machines operate it is almost certainly the latter. Yes, I know, it sounds too . . . conspiratorial, but the funny thing is it is probably true.
    ===================

    A believable scale of conspiracy.

    But I”d look at that initial ‘if’.

  43. neetabug Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 11:42 am
    Thanks Admin for that video of Bill and Hillary. This brought tears to my eyes knowing she will not be the president of the US.
    ===========================

    Another way to look at this is, the presidency is terrible stress, and this way Bill will not have that stress again. (He had very serious heart bypass surgery in 2004 and will be due for it again in a few years.) They can get a lot of their agenda done on a world scale (trickle in to USA) without being constant targets.

  44. If Paterson appoints Princess CK, it will be a total slap in the face to all the hard working and accomplished legislators in NY. If we are appalled at this, what they must be feeling. Total betrayal of all so-called American ideals. CK has not done anything to ready herself for this position. Money talks. It is all about money. May I say, I have total contempt for TK and CK.

  45. I think it was the late Col. David Hackworth who, when visiting Sen. Kerry’s office, noticed an elaborate wall display featuring Kerry’s Vietnam Combat decorations. It is no clear what Kerry threw over the White house fence.
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    SHV: if it is not true then I stand corrected. It seems to me I saw a television special reflecting him doing that but its been years now and I cannot document the source. I think it is worth checking out in any event. Being a politican however it is not unthinkable that Kerry would try to have it both ways. I will check it out further and report back if I learn anything.

    Absent that example I might be inclined to refer back to Kerrys improvident statement implying that if you are not smart and educated (like him) you end up in places like Iraq–or words to that effect. That statement is insufficent to support a charge of high treason, but it is more than enough to win him the Biden Gaffmaster Award–which is nothing to sneeze at.

    But even in the absense of those predicate acts, if as suggested he moves to undermine our girl in her role as Secretary of State because he is a guiness book pissant, or for some other self serving reason then we will have to predicate the charge strictly on what he does in that instance, and that alone should be enough–in my court.

    They hang scrarecrows don’t they. Well . . .

  46. freckles Says:
    Now that we have a third Bush in the WH in terms of splashy multi-vacations, our fate is in Hillary’s hands and the other appointees. Of course, BO has told us he is the decider so let us hope his team are the persuaders.
    ===================

    Well, something caused BO to appoint a lot of good old Clinton 90s people; hope it continues.

  47. Another way to look at this is, the presidency is terrible stress, and this way Bill will not have that stress again. (He had very serious heart bypass surgery in 2004 and will be due for it again in a few years.) They can get a lot of their agenda done on a world scale (trickle in to USA) without being constant targets.
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    Absolutely right. And they will be free of the domestic problems that will bedevil bambi to hell and back. If Bambi only knew what is in store for him in the years, he would extend his 17 day stay in that 9 million dollar condo in Hawail to four years. So far he has been body surfing in shallow water. He is about to tackle the big waves on the North Side of the Island. He will get a good lift and ride in the beginning but when the wave crashes will he drown? Ride the wild surf Bambi and try not to wipe us out.

  48. I never thought it would be possible, but given recent events, between Teddy and ck, they have tarnished their family legacy even more than ever before.

    Besides which, my five year old budgie would be better prepared to take Senator Clinton’s senate seat than a woman who can’t sling two sensible words together to save her life!

  49. wbboei said: Kerrys improvident statement implying that if you are not smart and educated (like him) you end up in places like Iraq–or words to that effect.
    ================

    That was a slip of the tongue exploited by the then-GOP media. Kerry was trying to insult Bush, saying that Bush was stupid and had got us stuck in Iraq.

  50. …”I’ve rethought the fact that the governor makes the selection and in the ultimate determination it is what the governor wants,” Silver said.

    And in a sign that Kennedy is starting to move to the front of the pack sources close to Gov. Paterson admitted that they had a hand in Silver’s change of heart. This as Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey, a top Kennedy strategist, continued his push for her candidacy….
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    1. to me the first paragraph is not an endorsement of Kennedy by Silver at all but merely an acknowledgement that the decision rests with the governors office. If that is all he has said then I do not see this as a change in postion, in which case the inference of a conspiracy relative to Silver goes away.

    2. the second paragraph is intepretative and materially misleading. It implies that Silver has changed his position relative to Kennedy, whereas if paragraph 1 is the totality of what he said, he was merely saying that the decision is up to the Governor–and he needs to step out of the spotlight. It is not an endorsement of CK.

    If that is the sum and substance of it then the media is playing the role of propandist when it calls this a sign that the Princess is stating to move to the front of the pack. Or else they are privy to the governors thinking. This whole thing has got the Kennedy stench to it.

  51. wbboei Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 1:59 pm

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    Wbboei: I agree with your analysis. I think the CK PR machine is working overtime. It does stink, doesn’t it? Just as bad as the Chicago and BO stench.

  52. That was a slip of the tongue exploited by the then-GOP media. Kerry was trying to insult Bush, saying that Bush was stupid and had got us stuck in Iraq.
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    Turndown: that is why I proposed the gaffmaster award for him. But you know, words are what politicians do for a living, and that was a real doozie as Lloyd Bentsen would say. Think of what would happen if he displayed that kind of verbal adeptness in a summit meeting with the Russians, trying to deliver a compliment and ending up delivering a deep insult. Please Mr. Putin do not launch your nukes it was just a minor slip of the tongue. Nasvadonia.

  53. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    SHV: if it is not true then I stand corrected.
    **********
    Stand corrected that Kerry is a piece of cr*p??. If it was Hackworth telling the story, his point was that Kerry made a big deal of throwing his medals away as a form of principled protest against the war..and lo and behold those same medals are on the wall of his Senate office twenty years later.

  54. Stand corrected that Kerry is a piece of cr*p??. If it was Hackworth telling the story, his point was that Kerry made a big deal of throwing his medals away as a form of principled protest against the war..and lo and behold those same medals are on the wall of his Senate office twenty years later.
    —————————————–
    First the case against Kerry rests on far more than this single incident. Second, medals are replaceable–are they in fact the SAME medals. Third, lets see if anything else turns up on this incident. Again, my recollection was based on a television show I saw. I wish I could be more helpful on that.

  55. SHV Says:
    If it was Hackworth telling the story, his point was that Kerry made a big deal of throwing his medals away as a form of principled protest against the war..and lo and behold those same medals are on the wall of his Senate office twenty years later.
    =========================

    Maybe someone returned them.

    Or maybe he thought the matter over then,
    Went and dug them up again.

  56. I think the Republican Party is in worse shape than most people realize. Internally, their three main factions are at war. The small government devotees, the neocons, and the religious right. It is hard to find a candidate who will appeal to all factions, and bring peace to the warring tribes.

    The larger problem however is external. The Bush Administration has taken away their supposed mantle of competence and patriotism. Bush himself is the epitome of incompetence and the self dealing and cronyism which have marked his tenure will stain the partys reputation for years to come.

    For those of us who trust neither party and believe in a system of checks and balances this cannot be a good thing. But the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. This latest flap over the song that the rnc cowboys ar bantering about plays into the hands of the left.

  57. From the Toronto globeandmail.com:

    CAROLINE KENNEDY

    The wrong way in
    December 31, 2008

    Celebrated lineage can be a blessing for the politically ambitious. It can also be a curse. For those with a famous last name, it is more difficult to be judged on one’s own merits. And if that person makes the mistake of projecting a sense of entitlement, there is a risk of provoking a backlash from opponents and would-be allies alike.

    That is a trap into which Caroline Kennedy appears to have fallen. John F. Kennedy’s 51-year-old daughter – an author, lawyer and philanthropist who has been active in education reform – might well be embraced by voters if she ran for a seat in the U.S. Senate. But she is attempting to get one a different way. Never having sought public office at any level, nor expressed much interest in politics prior to her endorsement of Barack Obama earlier this year, Ms. Kennedy is hoping that New York Governor David Paterson will appoint her to the Senate to fill the seat expected to be vacated by Hillary Clinton when she becomes secretary of state.

    It has been speculated that Ms. Kennedy’s interest in the seat was motivated partly by encouragement from her uncle, Senator Ted Kennedy, who is suffering from brain cancer. But from the outset, her bid has raised the ire of Democrats who believe the appointment should go to someone who has paid his or her dues to their party and to public life. She made matters worse by declining media requests for nearly three weeks after announcing her interest in the seat. Now, widely criticized for failing to make her case, she has embarked upon a series of interviews that have done little to help. While she has been roundly mocked for sprinkling her responses with “ums” and “you knows,” the fairer criticism is that, evoking comparisons to the famous stumble of her uncle Ted when he sought the Democrats’ presidential nomination, she has failed to coherently explain why she wishes to be a senator.

    This unfortunate plunge into the spotlight stands in contrast to the most comparable example from this side of the border. Rather than running in this year’s federal election in the safe Liberal riding of Outremont, as had been speculated, Justin Trudeau instead fought a successful battle against a Bloc Québécois incumbent in the riding of Papineau – a constituency where he was not assured even of winning the Liberal nomination. “I don’t want to be handed anything, I don’t need to be handed anything,” Pierre Trudeau’s eldest son said when he announced his candidacy. “I’m more than capable of bringing the fight and it will be a chance for me to demonstrate my own political abilities.”

    By depriving herself of such an opportunity, Ms. Kennedy did herself no favour. Although there remain skeptics when it comes to Mr. Trudeau’s political future, he took steps toward winning fellow Liberals’ respect by proving he would not just coast on his surname (even if it undoubtedly helped his cause). Ms. Kennedy may have an easier road to office, but a more difficult one proving that she belongs there.

  58. There was a time when the RNC was a well run institution. I used to know Eddie Mayhe who was the former chairman. Crew cut, military bearing, sharp on details and a competent leader. I do not know the people running it today–or John Ensign. Now it almost seems the inmates are running the asylum. In a volunteer organization like a campaign that can happen. But when the people working for you are paid employees, it should never be allowed to occur.

  59. Hillbuzz: We don’t see how Harry Reid and Senate Democrats can prevent Roland Burris from becoming a Senator
    [ Midstream News doesn’t usually link to blogs and/or opinion. But this item has a very straight-up, non-slanted … style anyway. – MN ]

    Because of this scandal, most of you are hearing about Blagojevich for the very first time. Making millions off a book deal was never an option for him before, because no one knew who he was outside of Illinois. However, the notoriety he is gaining is making him an increasingly more interesting national figure.

    From our perspective, doing as many bizarre and outrageous things as possible while exercising full authority as Governor is the best thing Blagojevich can do for his pocketbook. We think the Burris appointment is just the opening volley in what’s going to be an interesting few months from Blagojevich…it’s going to get positively Shakesperean from here on out.

    Insert h*****/

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/we-dont-see-how-harry-reid-and-senate-democrats-can-prevent-roland-burris-from-becoming-a-senator/#comment-30032

  60. Happy New Year HillFriends!

    Health and Happiness to each of you and your love ones.

    And may this year bring the karma to those who deserve it.

  61. Because of this scandal, most of you are hearing about Blagojevich for the very first time. Making millions off a book deal was never an option for him before, because no one knew who he was outside of Illinois. However, the notoriety he is gaining is making him an increasingly more interesting national figure.

    From our perspective, doing as many bizarre and outrageous things as possible while exercising full authority as Governor is the best thing Blagojevich can do for his pocketbook. We think the Burris appointment is just the opening volley in what’s going to be an interesting few months from Blagojevich…it’s going to get positively Shakesperean from here on out.
    ————————————-
    Turndown: this is exactly right.

    I don’t care what they say about me. Just make sure they spell the name right.–FDR

  62. Happy 2009 to Admin and all Hillfriends…special thanks to Admin for your continued perserverance and insight…looking forward to analyzing 2009 here…

    Can it ever be said enough…I, We, Love Hillary and Bill Clinton…the ultimate survivors and simply the best…thank goodness we will have Hillary at the helm…and Bill is still there with her…thru thick and thin…nonstop investigations, heart attack, sabotage of close friends and confidants, backstabbing of their own party, rumors, innuendo and stalking of the MSM…thru it all…there they are…still together…swaying to the music, hugging one another with that knowing look…and ready to walk back on to the world stage and take charge…simply love them…

  63. Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.–Mark Twain.

  64. In negotiation parleyance the Governor of Illiois is playing the game of chicken with the combine and obama–and so far he is winning.

  65. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    In negotiation parleyance the Governor of Illiois is playing the game of chicken with the combine and obama–and so far he is winning.
    ==============

    ????? Elaborate? That’s a verb in imperative tense.

  66. Just to let you know, it broke my heart to write what I did up thread. The writing of it wasn’t meant to upset anyone. If anyone is aware of the bitterness and outright vindictiveness Kerry feels towards Hillary you would have had to be a poster at DU.

    His loyalists are unmercifully mean and cruel towards her even now and so is he, if given half a chance. If memory serves, there were several volleys of fighting words shot across the bow when he and Kennedy came out into the light with the endorsement of Obama. Kerry’s words were laced with venom towards the Clintons, as if they didn’t do enough for him when he ran. Kennedy’s response to his sudden support for Obama was appallingly lame and without merit.

    Those two bloviated hucksters have to be watched and monitored like inmates threatening to go over the wall. I hope the Clintons use a different tac then in previous times. It isn’t enough to just defend yourself because your hands are clean. At this point in time, they need to protect themselves within a moat of loyalists with a thousand eyes and ears… I’m in 2 for 2..

  67. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    In negotiation parleyance the Governor of Illiois is playing the game of chicken with the combine and obama–and so far he is winning.
    **************************************

    makes you wonder who has got what on who and what is on all those tapes Fitz has been accumulating for a few years…

    the ‘timing’ of this whole Blago deal is so suspicious…just not buying the explanations the MSM are selling…Blago must know where a lot of skeletons are…to whose advantage is it to get him put away and out of the picture…

    frankly the NY Senate seat seems up for sale…very fine, thin line…

  68. S, I agree that the NY senate seat is up for sale. What it would be like to have a recording of Paterson’s and other people’s phone calls.

    BTW, I don’t believe Blago is insane. He is a narcissist, like just about every other politician. He seems to have bigger cajones, and is taking a stand. He probably knows, where many, many skeletons lie. What we see, is a lot of posturing.

  69. If it is true that ‘Uncle’ Ted can essentially assign his senate seat to his wife [wasn’t Sonny Bono’s wife able to assume his seat?] upon his demise, then Hillary should assign our Bill to be the seat ‘caretaker.’ That would eliminate the need for annointing anyone and a Dem could still be there, and a really good one at that. And Princess Caroline could ‘run’ for the seat in 2010 just like every other candidate who is not royalty.

  70. CK should gracefully withdraw her name and endorse Carolyn Maloney, as three of the women’s groups have already done…then if CK still has this new burning desire to be in ‘elected’ office…she can run for something local or CM’s seat in the House…

    prove ‘herself’ at something…take the ‘risk’ of competing…

    …that might stop the damage she is doing to her own reputation and indicate a pinch of sincereity

    and/or if this newfound burning desire is still there, CK can mount a campaign and run for the Senate seat in 2010…anything else is a joke…if she is appointed to Hill’s seat it just reinforces the cynicism regarding the Dim party…

    if i were CK at this point I would be embarrassed to accept the appointment…she is lucky the MSM backs her, her performance has been abyssmal…she is no sarah palin…palin at least got to where she did on her own and got some of those funny little things called ‘votes’ that caused her to ‘win’ an election…gee, how novel…

    I wish some reporter would ask Paterson about Carolyn Maloney and all the support she is ACTUALLY receiving from women…and all the accomplishments she has already achieved…how does he just ignore that?

  71. We owe a great deal to this remarkable woman—(terrific New Yorker article)

    Pamela Davis, blond suburban mother of three, was told that her bra would be the best place to wear the wire that kick-started a long investigation into Chicago graft and that ultimately caught the governor of Illinois trying to sell Barack Obama’s Senate seat. Davis is the president and C.E.O. of Edward Hospital, in Naperville, Illinois. She is proud of the fact that on her twenty-year watch the hospital has grown from a hundred-and-sixty-two-bed community facility to a four-hundred-and-twenty-seven-bed regional medical center that leads the county in babies delivered.

    Back in 2003, Davis was trying to get approval for a new medical office building from the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board. A night or two before a hearing was to be held, Davis recalled, something strange happened. A business acquaintance of hers, Nicholas Hurtgen, then a managing director of the Chicago office of Bear Stearns, called her at home and told her that unless she agreed to use a certain contractor she should pull her building request, because it wasn’t going to be approved.

    She ignored the warning and went off to the board hearing, where she was surprised to find that her request was denied. “I was humiliated,” she said. “They were mean. So I walk off, and then a different guy comes up to me and he says, ‘We told you to pull your project. Call me.’ And right then I decided to call the F.B.I.”

    At first, the agents she contacted thought she was a crank. “I could tell they were laughing at me. Most people who call the F.B.I. are crazies. So they sort of humored me and said, ‘O.K., we will come out and listen once.’ ”

    A few days later, three F.B.I. agents met her at her office, bugged her phone, and outfitted her with the wire to put in her bra. Then they set up camp in a van in the parking garage and waited. “They said, ‘You tell nobody anything, not even your husband.’ They were laughing at me and I was laughing at them.”

    The agents had instructed Davis to invite Hurtgen and Jacob Kiferbaum, the contractor whom he had mentioned over the phone, to meet at her office. When they arrived, the F.B.I. men listened in on the conversation from the van.

    As Davis recalled, “They say, ‘We told you to pull the project.’ And I say, ‘Yeah, why do I need you?’ And they start saying, ‘If you don’t hire us, you will never get this project approved.’ After about five minutes, my phone rings, and now the three F.B.I. guys in the parking garage are saying, ‘It’s extortion! It’s extortion!’ They yell, ‘Get ’em out! Get ’em out!’ So I hang up the phone.

    “Now everybody is looking at me. These guys have driven two hours to have a meeting with me. And I say to them, ‘I am so sorry, I have a family emergency.’ I’m making this up as I go along. After that, I had the three stooges in the garage telling me they’d help me.”

    That episode helped start United States Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald’s Operation Board Games. For the next seven months, Pamela Davis, hospital administrator, became Pamela Davis, secret agent, helping to expose a multimillion-dollar scam that at times resembled a spinoff of “The Sopranos,” guest-starring the back office from “Grey’s Anatomy.” Davis attended long lunches and boozy dinners with crooked businessmen, listening (and taping) as they talked of grafting off the hospital industry. She would slip the tapes to her F.B.I. handlers at Marshall Field’s makeup counters in malls around suburban Chicago.

    Davis taped all sorts of incriminating conversations, but she never quite got used to spycraft. “The wire is a little tiny square thing I put inside my bra. I thought it would fall out all the time,” she said. “Oh, the logistics of getting this stuff done! One morning, I had to meet one of the F.B.I. guys in my office at 6 A.M. so he could hook up a wire to tap my phone. He was under my desk, on the floor. It looks kinky! My administrative assistant pops her head in, and there’s this man under my desk, and she says, ‘Oh, my goodness,’ and leaves. And I go, ‘What am I supposed to tell her?’ He says, ‘I don’t know. That never happened to me before.’ ”

    Eventually, the “bad guys,” as Davis calls them, told her she could build her new building if she agreed to add several million dollars to the deal for Kiferbaum. “The F.B.I. said, ‘Sign it—it makes the case better.’ But I couldn’t do that. How could I possibly sign something like that and cost my organization money? I didn’t know what the hell to do.” (The F.B.I. was unable to comment.)

    Davis got a court order allowing her to hire a lawyer and to tell her hospital-board chairman what she was up to. After seven months, the Chicago Sun-Times published her name in a blind item about an ongoing corruption investigation, and Davis’s role in the case was over. Her tapes of Stuart Levine, a corrupt health-board member, helped lead to his becoming a federal witness in the trial of Antoin (Tony) Rezko. (Kiferbaum pleaded guilty to attempted extortion in 2005. Hurtgen maintains his innocence, and his lawyer disputed Davis’s account.)

    As Fitzgerald’s probe widened, more wiretaps were put in place, and more corruption was exposed. Eventually, the governor of Illinois was recorded discussing the sale of Obama’s Senate seat. Davis, who describes herself as a political independent, says she’s disgusted with politics now, although she did vote for Obama. And she still hasn’t received state approval for her hospital expansion. ♦

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  72. frankly the NY Senate seat seems up for sale…very fine, thin line…
    ——————————————-
    It would be highly problematic for patterson to choose kennedy. How does he justify that decision to his fellow democratic politicians and their constituents? Does he say I selected her because:

    1. her name is kennedy and yours is not?

    2. she has devoted more time and energy to the political process in New York than you have?

    3. she will bring in more money and new members than you can?

    4. big media likes her more than you, and they are the ones who determine what politicans do?

    5. we have been promised that our federal legislation will receive preferential treatment?

    6. she is more glib, more talented and more beautiful than any of you, so fuck off?

    7. and by the way can I count on your political support when I run for governor?

    She is making a comeback alright. But how does he answer those question. How does he avoid a scandal when his right hand man took money from the Kennedys. And above all, how does he appoint her without falling on his own sword?

  73. If it is true that ‘Uncle’ Ted can essentially assign his senate seat to his wife [wasn’t Sonny Bono’s wife able to assume his seat?] upon his demise, then Hillary should assign our Bill to be the seat ‘caretaker.’ That would eliminate the need for annointing anyone and a Dem could still be there, and a really good one at that. And Princess Caroline could ‘run’ for the seat in 2010 just like every other candidate who is not royalty.
    —————————————–
    Yes, Mary was able to assume the seat. But I do not recall what the process was. I do not know whether it was a special election, a gubenatorial appointment (if Gray Davis was governor then it would not have happened, but if it was wilson or dukemagin perhaps that is what happened), or maybe it was done through the Hammer.

    Freckles do you recall?

  74. wbboei you ask:

    And above all, how does he appoint her without falling on his own sword?

    ***********************************************

    this is what i also wonder? especially if he appoints her and then the tabloids exploit her and she is a further embarrassment…

    does paterson not fear backlash? and the whole thing backfiring?

    especially when there ARE more qualified and competent elected fighters ready to go into battle for New York…you know….”you know” what I mean…you know…

  75. I’m not sure how I feel about former President Clinton becoming a caretaker of Senator Clinton’s seat. I wouldn’t put it past the dimocrat slime to try to undermine him.

    He does so much good work with his foundation, I would just as soon he stay far away from the darkness of this upcoming legislature.

  76. Regarding Mary Bono, she did run for Sonny’s seat and won. I found this snippet interesting:

    “Since we’ve never been one-on-one on the issues, I suppose you could say it’s sexist for him [Waite] to assume that because I’m a 36-year-old woman raising two children alone I don’t know anything,” Bono said in an interview over breakfast in this wealthy resort community, where streets all seem to be named after Hollywood celebrities. “But he’s run for Congress before, and it’s surprising to me that I understand the legislative process and government far better than he does.”

    Bono’s hard-edged rebuttal dissolved momentarily when unexpectedly she heard the Sonny and Cher hit, “The Beat Goes On,” filling the restaurant from its background music system. “I’m sorry, it’s the first time I’ve heard it in public since he died,” she said before quickly returning to the subject of her sympathy vote.

    “There may be a sympathy factor, but sympathy comes from liking someone. Is he [Waite] disadvantaged because people like me, or liked Sonny?” she asked. “I feel blessed that people feel sympathy for me, and I’ll never, ever regret people’s cares and concerns for me and my family.”

    If she is elected Tuesday, Bono will be the second widow to win her husband’s House seat in California this year.

    © Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company

    Source: [h and www]
    washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces98/stories/ca040698.htm

  77. ????? Elaborate? That’s a verb in imperative tense.
    ——————————————-
    Turndown-

    First, the paragidmatic example of a game of chicken is two hot-rodders named elvis and james dean in black leather jackets each reving their engines at opposite ends of a long stretch of abandoned highway and when the starter says go they race toward eachother steady bearing decreasing range collision course and the one who turns to the side first is the chicken. If neither one does both end up dead.

    Second, in the Illinois context, one of those hot rodders is the govenor who is crazy alright–like a fox. The other is the combine have made provocative moves to remove him–or make him go away but nothing so far has worked. They are worried about what they have said on tape to the governor or his aids, what others have said about them to the govenor or his aids, and even if they are innocent they worry about how their careless remarks will be construed. That is why a number of people have come forward.

  78. I doubt that Paterson fears backlash for he likely feels invincible like the Huckster. He likely feels protected by the whole flimflam administration soon to be in power.

    I salue Mayor Bloomberg for recognizing Hillary’s worth.

  79. JanH…imho, former President Bill Clinton is beyond becoming a caretaker of Senator Clinton’s seat…he is an autonomous person that can do much more and put up with a lot less BS…continuing the path he is on…

    why in the world would he want to subject himself to all the egos in the senate and the nitpicking press…he is so past that…Bill is his own man and on the world stage…that is where he can do his greatest good…

  80. ShortTermer Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    ———————————
    ShortTerm: very impressive. After Sonny, Mary married the lead drummer for Diamond Rio. She has a pretty safe district for a Republican–Palm Springs.

  81. shortermer…i meant doesn’t paterson fear backlash from the voters? ??

    is CK just going to bluff her way until the seat is up for election in 2010?

  82. If the residency requirements could be met soon enough, Paterson appoint Burris and Blago appoint CK.

    Problem solved.

  83. S Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    ——————————————–

    I agree. And once again it is the media trying to spin a story into reality.

  84. I doubt that Paterson fears backlash for he likely feels invincible like the Huckster. He likely feels protected by the whole flimflam administration soon to be in power.
    —————————————
    What evidence do you have that he feels invincible. Or is it more of a hunch?

    From what I understand he is very touchy about being called the accidental governor and has not built a support organization throughout the state and knows that in the end it is not money but votes and Cuomo could run against him.

    Successful politicans cannot afford to be complacent and when they succumb they lose elections–like Kerry in 2004.

    Time will tell.

  85. this is what i also wonder? especially if he appoints her and then the tabloids exploit her and she is a further embarrassment…

    does paterson not fear backlash? and the whole thing backfiring?

    especially when there ARE more qualified and competent elected fighters ready to go into battle for New York…you know….”you know” what I mean…you know…
    —————————————
    I think he wants to do it, may have planned to do it but the minute he mentioned the word competent–even though he never said it again, he set a standard which the princess cannot meet and others can.

    If he is a credible politican and sees bambi as a potential ally if he does it and opponent if he fails to do it, he must envision what Bambis clout will be two years hence after he has been bloodied in a few political fights and has not delivered what he promised. So far he has been shadow boxing.

  86. My hunch on Paterson was based on the fact that he did not miss a step in assuming the Governorship even though both he and his wife dallied outside their marriage [seems like I remember him saying that AFTER he replaced Spitzer] just as Spitzer did.

    Unless proven differently, I see little difference between him and Huckster. And, like the Huckster he reverts back to using the race card when convenient as indicated by the following info from other blogs rightvoicedotcom and thebuffalobeandotcom:

    Governor Paterson, who became New York’s first black governor following the resignation of Eliot Spitzer, is lashing out at the press for describing him as an “accidental governor,” implying in a speech that the term’s frequent usage was motivated by racial bias.

    In a speech at the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People’s annual convention in Cincinnati, Mr. Paterson also suggested that the defeat of Senator Obama by Senator McCain in the presidential contest would be a victory for racism.
    source:
    rightvoicedotcom

    On Monday, Gov. David Paterson angered some state lawmakers by comparing them to vampires, calling them a bunch of “blood suckers.” On Tuesday, he raised eyebrows again, and tempers, by accusing the John McCain campaign of veiled racism.

    At the Crain’s Business Forum this morning, Paterson drew attention to a phrase used numerous times by speakers at the Republican National Convention to describe Barack Obama’s leadership experience: community organizer.

    “I think the Republican Party is too smart to call Barack Obama ‘black’ in a sense that it would be a negative. But you can take something about his life, which I noticed they did at the Republican Convention – a ‘community organizer.’ They kept saying it, they kept laughing,” he said.

    Paterson referred to McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin who compared her work experience to Obama’s.

    “So I suppose a small town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except with real responsibilities,” she said at the convention.

    Paterson sees the repeated use of the words “community organizer” as Republican code for “black”.
    source:thebuffalobeandotcom

  87. It looks as if Putin might try to test Obama right out of the “blocks”. Khrushchev tested JFK at the Vienna summit, found JFK weak and we ended up with the Berlin Wall, Missiles in Cuba and a War in Vietnam.

    “The thing no one is talking about today: Putin takes first step towards invasion of the Ukraine by setting natural gas trap”

    http: / / hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/the-thing-no-one-is-talking-about-today-putin-takes-first-step-towards-invasion-of-

  88. OK, now I’m confused. I just read a few days ago here (an article was posted from one of the N.Y. papers) that Kevin Sheekey had stopped pushing for CK because she was clearly not ready to be a senator. That link about Silver saying the selection is the governor’s prerogative doesn’t work, BTW. Is that article from today?

    The longer this goes on, the worse CK looks because she keeps embarrassing herself. That’s why I doubt Paterson will pick her.

  89. I’ve seen contradictory rumours about Sheekey. Maybe the anonymous sources can’t agree.

    Add h*****/
    pumaresponders.blogspot.com/2009/01/ny-daily-many-sensible-articles-on-ck.html

    The following are clickable links at PumaResponders also:

    Michael Sheekey ignores Caroline Kennedy camp’s call to chill
    Showing no sign of ending his public lobbying for Caroline Kennedy, a key aide to Mayor Bloomberg declared Wednesday it would be “political malpractice” to …
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/31/2008-12-31_michael_sheekey_ignores_caroline_kennedy.html – 12 hours ago – Similar pages –
    The Daily Politics – NY Daily News
    Dec 31, 2008 … Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey insisted this morning that, contrary to multiple media …. topo gigio on Sheekey: Only Caroline Backed Obama …
    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2008/12/sheekey-obama-would-have-oblig.html

  90. Paula, I agree that CK is looking worse and worse.

    As for elected officials who can’t finish their term being replaced by close associates, I think it’s fine: Biden, Obama, Bono, T Kennedy; I just wish Hillary’s seat was going to someone of her choice.

    The voters of NY elected Hillary for 6 years. They’re entitled to someone who will at least try to continue Hillary’s policies and projects for that time, till they can vote again. Same for Biden, Bono, even Obama: choose the closest substitute.

  91. Wall Street Journal
    JANUARY 2, 2009

    Burris Predicts Senators Will Relent, Let Him Serve: Blagojevich Appointee Touts His Credentials and Questions the Legality of Preventing Him From Filling Seat Vacated

    By DAVID KESMODEL and DOUGLAS BELKIN

    CHICAGO — The man appointed by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to fill the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama suggested he would challenge any effort to block the move, but said he is confident Senate Democrats will relent and let him take the job.

    “We think they will come around and recognize that the appointment is legal and valid and I am the junior senator from Illinois,” Roland Burris said during an interview at his office.

    Mr. Burris, a former Illinois attorney general, spoke Wednesday as it became clear that Mr. Blagojevich had offered the post to at least one other African-American politician, and as U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald sought more time to seek an indictment against the governor — and perhaps widen a five-year-old case that already has resulted in felony convictions.

    Mr. Blagojevich, facing federal corruption charges, on Tuesday named Mr. Burris to the seat the governor is accused of trying to sell. Senate Democrats said they would block the appointment, citing the allegations. Mr. Blagojevich has denied wrongdoing.

    Mr. Burris, 71 years old, brushed off the opposition in a 25-minute interview during which aides called him “senator” and he argued that he would represent his state well. “From South Beloit to Cairo, from Galena to Zion, East St. Louis to Lawrenceville, I know this state. I know its people,” he said.

    He also questioned — as have several legal scholars — the Senate’s right to keep him from taking the seat, asking, “By what authority can [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid] deny a governor carrying out his constitutional duty?”

    “I am the senator, and it sounds good,” said Mr. Burris, now a lobbyist and lawyer. “I’m giving up a lot of money to go to the Senate, OK? I’m taking a pay cut,” he said, referring to a U.S. senator’s salary of about $169,000 a year.

    Jim Manley, a spokesman for Mr. Reid, said, “We’re still reviewing all of the different legal issues, but we absolutely contend that the Constitution gives the Senate the sole power to seat, or not to seat, the members of the body.”

    New senators and re-elected incumbents are scheduled to be sworn in when Congress convenes on Tuesday. What the Senate might do about Mr. Burris’s appointment beforehand is unclear, but Mr. Burris said he is preparing to be at the Capitol. His race creates a dilemma for Senate Democrats, because Mr. Burris would be the only African-American in the chamber.

    Mr. Burris said he was first contacted Friday afternoon by a lawyer for Mr. Blagojevich about whether he would be interested in the seat, then spent the weekend consulting with dozens of people. He said no one discouraged or dissuaded him, and on Sunday he told the governor he would accept.

    U.S. Rep. Danny K. Davis, an Illinois Democrat, said Wednesday that an attorney for Mr. Blagojevich asked him on Dec. 24 whether he would be interested in the Senate seat. Two days later, Mr. Davis declined. “I felt that the environment and the climate just simply were not conducive to taking the position,” Mr. Davis said. He said neither he nor his wife was comfortable because of the allegations against Mr. Blagojevich.

    Mr. Burris said he was approached about 4 p.m. Dec. 26, after Mr. Davis said he had declined.

    Mr. Burris, the first African-American elected to statewide office in Illinois, has a reputation for being methodical and low-key. “Almost boring,” said Don Rose, a Chicago political consultant who has known him for 40 years.

    Mr. Burris got his first taste of politics when he helped integrate a public swimming pool in his hometown of Centralia. He went to Southern Illinois University, then earned a law degree at Howard University in Washington, D.C., before working as a bank examiner and finding his way into Democratic politics on Chicago’s south side.

    He lost in his first bid for the state comptroller’s office in 1974, but won four years later after gaining the support of the Democratic Party, Mr. Rose said. He ran for attorney general in 1990 and won with the party’s blessing. He lost in three bids for governor, including against Mr. Blagojevich in 2002, and in a Senate primary election.

    Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White said this week that he wouldn’t sign a formal proclamation of the governor’s appointment. Wednesday, a spokesman for Mr. Burris said representatives of the appointee plan to file legal papers ordering Mr. White to certify the document. Democratic strategists say they don’t think the secretary of state will ultimately be able to avoid signing.

    A 1960s federal case found that Congress has the power to expel a sitting member for being unfit for office, but can’t keep out an elected member based on alleged corruption. One Senate option would be to defer seating Mr. Burris until its rules committee determines whether the appointment was consistent with federal law and the Constitution. The delay would create time for leaders in the Illinois Legislature to follow through on promises to remove Mr. Blagojevich, and any appointment made by a new governor would likely be accepted.

  92. I did try the link again, and it worked (forgot to replace dot with a . in the URL).

    BTW, thanks to admin for posting the Hillary and Bill video. I thought Hillary looked wonderful last night, too. It looks like she’s recovered from the grind of the campaign. Good for her.

  93. wbboei Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    ShortTermer Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
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    ShortTerm: very impressive. After Sonny, Mary married the lead drummer for Diamond Rio. She has a pretty safe district for a Republican–Palm Springs.
    *************************

    “Mary’ voted to impeach Clinton. She was very dramatic in her interviews on TV. It was sickening. I don’t like her.

    Thanks Admin for all you do and happy new year to all.

  94. Shortermer, you may be right. I do not know Patterson personally. So for me it is all speculation.

    He may have a death wish. He may be too ignorant to realize the consequences of his actions. Or he may be angling for a position in the tenth obama admininstration.

    What I am saying is I have no feel for the measure of his delusion. The best I can do is use a reasonable man standard to predict his future behavior. Obviously, I could be wrong.

    That said, I am disappointed in what he has said based on the passages you quote. Common sense should tell him that it is unwise for the chief exectutive of a state to impute racist motives to others in the absense of clear proof.

    When he does foolish things like that many people who hear that will be inclined to impute anti-white motives to him. In that case, it is forseeable that Cuomo will be governor and Peter King will be Senator in 2010. That is my hunch.

    A friend of mine who is an expert on black history drew a comparison between our times now the Reconstruction period of the Civil War. It was filled with hopium that we hear now from our racebaiters de jour. It did not end well. In fact it set back the cause of civil rights 100 years.

    As far as I am concerned, the minute he turned on Hillary was the moment I lost whatever faith I had in him. The only thing I have not lost yet is my faith in his political instincts. But the passages you quote do give me pause.

  95. A 1960s federal case found that Congress has the power to expel a sitting member for being unfit for office, but can’t keep out an elected member based on alleged corruption. One Senate option would be to defer seating Mr. Burris until its rules committee determines whether the appointment was consistent with federal law and the Constitution. The delay would create time for leaders in the Illinois Legislature to follow through on promises to remove Mr. Blagojevich, and any appointment made by a new governor would likely be accepted.
    *************
    Harry Reid is an embarrassment. The country is going into the sh*tter and he is fighting petty party politics. Even in the remote chance that Blago is removed from office…Burris was still appointed by the legal governor. So now they want to deal with having the courts decide between two junior Senators?

  96. “Mary’ voted to impeach Clinton. She was very dramatic in her interviews on TV. It was sickening. I don’t like her.
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    gonzo: if I were not partially pregant here myself I would ask you questions like do you believe in redemption, or how many repos voted in against impeachment or some other question.

    The problem is I have the same problem. As far as I am concerned anyone who opposed Hillary prior to June 3 will never be forgiven, so I will throw no stones your way.

    She was a reliable ally on some consumer legislation I was pushing at the time and that is the basis for my affections. I agree with you about the impeachment vote however.

  97. admin..thank you for the video of hill and bill last night, i was watching abc and cannot believe that they cut away to show dick and only show 20seconds of the ball dropping… brings me tears i so proud of our girl hillary…

  98. It looks as if Putin might try to test Obama right out of the “blocks”. Khrushchev tested JFK at the Vienna summit, found JFK weak and we ended up with the Berlin Wall, Missiles in Cuba and a War in Vietnam.

    “The thing no one is talking about today: Putin takes first step towards invasion of the Ukraine by setting natural gas trap
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    I like John and Robert (not Ted), therefore I am willing to support the myth up to a point. But the truth is that during the Cuban Missile Crisis there had a Russian general in the Kremlin who was telling us Kruschev’s internal strategy and by implication how far he would go. I doubt we have that kind of g-2 today, Putin is ex KGB, and Bush looked into his eyes and has never been the same since. So if worst comes to worst history may not repeat itself. In those days we had Dean Rusk, today we will have Hillary, and Hillary knows that the way to confront a situation like this is through the indirect approach. What the core elements of that might be is a matter of speculation. But surely it is as much a European problem as much as an American one and we cannot afford to go it alone. Maybe it is time to unleash bambi on putin and knock his jock off with the hope change matra, and then stare in his eyes like Rasputin. The counterveilling risk is that putin would see there is no there there.

  99. Harry Reid is an embarrassment. The country is going into the sh*tter and he is fighting petty party politics. Even in the remote chance that Blago is removed from office…Burris was still appointed by the legal governor. So now they want to deal with having the courts decide between two junior Senators?
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    If you are willing to make a couple assumptions here you can well conclude that bambi does not want burris. If that is the case, and absent some other explanation, then it tends to corroborate what my friend told me, namely that he is not an obama man, despite some to the noises he made to appear that he was.

  100. Lots of different rumors are going around; I don’t think there’s any common ground except that they all sell newspapers.

    h***/**w

    nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/01/the-gov-channels-quotable-klem.html
    “Who’s the frontrunner, who’s the popular choice? There’s one choice, it’s the one the governor will make and in the end, everybody will understand that,” Paterson told reporters in Albany (including the DN’s Glenn Blain) this afternoon.

  101. Kevin Sheekey ignores Caroline Kennedy camp’s call to chill
    By MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

    Updated Thursday, January 1st 2009, 12:17 PM

    Showing no sign of ending his public lobbying for Caroline Kennedy, a key aide to Mayor Bloomberg declared Wednesday it would be “political malpractice” to pick anyone else.

    “The idea that we would pass up appointing someone to the Senate who is both a friend and a critical supporter of Barack Obama is political malpractice,” Kevin Sheekey, Bloomberg’s deputy mayor for government affairs, told the Daily News.

    “If Caroline is appointed, Barack Obama has to come to New York as his first political trip to … support her and, in turn, New York.

    “That’s what this state desperately needs.”

    Sheekey insisted the President-elect “has an obligation” to help Kennedy, should Paterson select her, because she played a pivotal role in his campaign.

    Sheekey’s outspoken remarks come a day after a source told The News that Kennedy’s camp urged him to tone down his lobbying efforts for fear it hurt Kennedy’s chances.

    Paterson spokesman Errol Cockfield declined to comment. Obama spokesman Nick Shapiro also declined to comment.

    While Kennedy has said she believes she is the best candidate to replace Hillary Clinton, spokesman Stefan Friedman said she disagrees with Sheekey’s assessment that rejecting her would be malpractice.

    “Caroline has repeatedly said that Gov. Paterson has his choice of many qualified candidates to fill this position,” Friedman said.

    Last month, Obama offered high praise for Kennedy, but he declined to offer a full-throated endorsement. Kennedy campaigned across the country for Obama and was on his vice presidential search committee.

    “Caroline Kennedy has become one of my dearest friends and is just a, a wonderful American, a wonderful person,” Obama said.

    Former Sen. Alfonse D’Amato (R-N.Y.) said having a close relationship with the President is good.

    “It pays to have a friend in the White House,” D’Amato said. “A close personal relationship … can result in that senator being able to call upon the President, whether it’s to get a transit grant or to get proposals [enacted.]”

    see the rest at:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/31/2008-12-31_kevin_sheekey_ignores_caroline_kennedy_c.html

  102. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    “If you are willing to make a couple assumptions here you can well conclude that bambi does not want burris. If that is the case, and absent some other explanation, then it tends to corroborate what my friend told me, namely that he is not an obama man, despite some to the noises he made to appear that he was.”
    *************
    I just don’t see a upside for the Senate leadership or for Obama….”They are now saying that Burris will be blocked at the door and if he causes stink, the Capital police will be called. A legally appointed AA Senator is dragged off by the police??? Man will that look good on national TV with Bobby Rush calling lynching.

  103. Birdgal says: “money talks, it’s all about money”.

    You sure have that right. That’s always the bottom line with these people.

  104. h*****/**w

    nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/31/2008-12-31_kevin_sheekey_ignores_caroline_kennedy_c.html

    from the story:
    Showing no sign of ending his public lobbying for Caroline Kennedy, a key aide to Mayor Bloomberg declared Wednesday it would be “political malpractice” to pick anyone else.

    “The idea that we would pass up appointing someone to the Senate who is both a friend and a critical supporter of Barack Obama is political malpractice,” Kevin Sheekey, Bloomberg’s deputy mayor for government affairs, told the Daily News.

    and…..”Caroline Kennedy has become one of my dearest friends and is just a, a wonderful American, a wonderful person,” Obama said.

    Then why does CK need to be a Senator? Why doesn’t she just phone him from home?

  105. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “But the truth is that during the Cuban Missile Crisis there had a Russian general in the Kremlin who was telling us Kruschev’s internal strategy and by implication how far he would go”
    ****************
    Fortunately, JFK, RFK and Khruschev didn’t listen to their respective military advisers. The Russians got what they wanted; a no invasion of Cuba promise and more importantly, an agreement to remove Jupiter IRBMs from Turkey, which the US denied was part of the “deal”. One of the most interesting things is that Khruschev didn’t “spill the beans” about the secrete missile agreement. The appearance that Khruschev had “backed down” was probably a significant factor in his removal from office two years later.

  106. In my opinion, Bloomberg plays all ends to the middle. He is the Nehru of New York politics. He says nice things to Hillary because she won 67% of the vote in his state. Then he turns around and kisses Kennedys ass. I know he has got money. I am less sure he has a coherent philosophy other than making more money.

    At some point he will probably run for President himself and we will find out whether his popularity transcends the five burroughs. His deputy mayor is over the top. I bet he is a big hit in upstate New York. Is he by chance a . . . bot? And what praytell is his relationship with Patterson?

    Patterson had better think hard about getting someone who is saleable outside the five burroughs. It would be political malpractice if he failed to do so.

    As for bambi, it is nice to see that he has a warm and fuzzy relationship with the trust fund baby but if he is trying to tell the people who have paid their dues that they must step aside he may find that the bloom is off the rose.

    At this point the little dictator has nothing better to do. Soon he will be immersed in a world he has never known- the realm of governing.

  107. Fortunately, JFK, RFK and Khruschev didn’t listen to their respective military advisers. The Russians got what they wanted; a no invasion of Cuba promise and more importantly, an agreement to remove Jupiter IRBMs from Turkey, which the US denied was part of the “deal”. One of the most interesting things is that Khruschev didn’t “spill the beans” about the secrete missile agreement. The appearance that Khruschev had “backed down” was probably a significant factor in his removal from office two years later.
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    That is my understanding as well. Curtis LeMay was ready to bomb them back to the stone age. I believe he was the inspiration for the movie Dr. Strangelove–or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb. He did not worry but alot os the rest of us sure did.

  108. IIRC, LeMay was “Jack D. Ripper” and Edward Teller was “Strangelove”. It is sort of ironic that Teller, a Hungarian Jew who had fled the Nazis, was portrayed as Nazi type character.

  109. wbboei Says:
    January 1st, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    “If you are willing to make a couple assumptions here you can well conclude that bambi does not want burris. If that is the case, and absent some other explanation, then it tends to corroborate what my friend told me, namely that he is not an obama man, despite some to the noises he made to appear that he was.”
    *************
    I just don’t see a upside for the Senate leadership or for Obama….”They are now saying that Burris will be blocked at the door and if he causes stink, the Capital police will be called. A legally appointed AA Senator is dragged off by the police??? Man will that look good on national TV with Bobby Rush calling lynching.
    —————————————–
    The theory I am testing right now is whether my friend and I are reading the situation right that bambi does not want burris. There is as you know contrary evidence. Whether or not Bambi and his senate cronies can stop it however is another matter and the practical problems are as you state. The interesting and no doubt unintended consequence of the request for a 90 day extension is that congress will have to face the issue before the formal indictment issues, and a formal indictiment would have strengenthed bambis hand in the matter. This assumes of course that the extension is granted but on the face of it I see no reason for it to be denied.

  110. “This assumes of course that the extension is granted but on the face of it I see no reason for it to be denied.”

    *****************
    It was reported that Blago’z attys didn’t oppose the motion; which I think is interesting in and of itself.

  111. LeMay was “Jack D. Ripper” and Edward Teller was “Strangelove”. It is sort of ironic that Teller, a Hungarian Jew who had fled the Nazis, was portrayed as Nazi type character.
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    LeMay was a firm believer in saturation bombing and had we gone to defcon X his B-52 bombers with Tellers hydrogen bombs would hav flattened Cuba. I know how happy he was firebombing in world war 2 but with a new toy like the h bomb it would have been le bon temps roule for that wacko. Oppenheimer who was head of the Manhattan project felt deep remorse over the role he played in the development of the atom bomb–and described the United States and Russia as two scopions in a bottle. Teller on the other hand felt no remorse about the role he played in developing the hydrogen bomb–that I can recall. I knew people who were part of the Manhattan project and they had qualms in later life. A friend who is now deceased invented the triggering device on the hydrogen bomb and told me he regretted it. He knew Teller.

  112. Paula: bloombergs operative Kevin Sheekley is guiness book incompetent. His hammer and tongs approach to senior New York officials has generated a backlash which was entirely predictable. He is guilty of political malpractice.

    If you parse his words what he is really saying is that this unqualified trust fund baby merely because she supported bambi is tantamont. He is also saying by inference that experienced politicans who supported Hillary in the primary should not be have the job. But the fact is Hillary won the senate seat by 67% and was recently named New Yorker of the Year so how wrong could they be. And if they are not wrong then why should they not be considered.

    I know he is supposed to be a bulldog but that doesn t mean he has to be a stupid one. But since I am against the princess I welcome his stupidity.

  113. Correcton: If you parse his words what he is really saying is that this unqualified trust fund baby must be appointed because she supported bambi, when the governor himself has said he will make the decision based on competence.

  114. Just to “confuse the ‘news'” a bit further:

    # admin Says:
    December 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    From today’s New York Post:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/12302008/news/regionalnews/bloomberg_aide_cools_on_kennedy_146537.htm

    Mayor Bloomberg’s top political aide is pulling back on his lobbying campaign to propel Caroline Kennedy into the U.S. Senate because “it wasn’t working,” according to sources.

    “Everything was backfiring,” said one source of the intense behind-the-scenes effort by Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey.

    “He’s not out front any more.”

    The source said that Sheekey had hoped to round up overwhelming support for Kennedy very quickly so she would become the inevitable choice when Gov. Paterson selects the successor to Hillary Clinton.

    Clinton has been nominated to become Secretary of State in the Obama Administration.

    “They tried to take everybody else out,” said the source. “It didn’t work. They were out there way, way too early.”

    In addition to promoting Kennedy, Sheekey also set her up with Knickerbocker SKD, the political consulting firm that also counts Bloomberg as a client.

    Kennedy, a political novice, didn’t help matters when she started granting interviews that demonstrated her inexperience, according to the source.

    “She wasn’t prepped enough,” said the source. “She wasn’t ready to do this.”

  115. The first try is in moderation, so I may end up with two of these.

    Just to “confuse the ‘news’” a bit further:

    # admin Says:
    December 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    From today’s New York Post:

    nypost.com/seven/12302008/news/regionalnews/bloomberg_aide_cools_on_kennedy_146537.htm

    Mayor Bloomberg’s top political aide is pulling back on his lobbying campaign to propel Caroline Kennedy into the U.S. Senate because “it wasn’t working,” according to sources.

    “Everything was backfiring,” said one source of the intense behind-the-scenes effort by Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey.

    “He’s not out front any more.”

    The source said that Sheekey had hoped to round up overwhelming support for Kennedy very quickly so she would become the inevitable choice when Gov. Paterson selects the successor to Hillary Clinton.

    Clinton has been nominated to become Secretary of State in the Obama Administration.

    “They tried to take everybody else out,” said the source. “It didn’t work. They were out there way, way too early.”

    In addition to promoting Kennedy, Sheekey also set her up with Knickerbocker SKD, the political consulting firm that also counts Bloomberg as a client.

    Kennedy, a political novice, didn’t help matters when she started granting interviews that demonstrated her inexperience, according to the source.

    “She wasn’t prepped enough,” said the source. “She wasn’t ready to do this.”

  116. Heidi Li is always a pleasure to read. Here is an excerpt from a longer article posted at Popouri.
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    It is entirely unsurprising that as liberals many liberals rejected Barack Obama as a Presidential candidate or find his performance as President-elect wanting. From the perspective of a strong liberal, Mr. Obama does not share, or does not share fully enough, liberalism’s commitment to the realization of individual autonomy particularly in the face of powerful forces that tend to work against it. Some indications of Mr. Obama’s illiberalism:

    His twenty year membership in a church whose pastor endorsed anti-Semites like Louis Farrakhan and preached doctrines favoring the use of terrorist violence against individual civilians.
    His willingness to disenfranchise the individuals who voted in Michigan’s and Florida’s primaries.
    His vote to provide immunity to companies that aided and abetted government eavesdropping and spying upon individual U.S. citizens.
    His refusal to object to mobocratic measures taken on his behalf that enabled him to claim the Democratic Party nomination (e.g. his silence on the Democratic Party’s disregard for its own rules and procedures for selecting a nominee).
    His bent toward creating mechanisms that conflate the political with the civic and the social, particularly when the conflation advances his personal political identity (e.g. house parties to carry his personal movement forward under the banner of mybarackobama; the use of invented seals to collapse preexisting government institutions – e.g., the office of the president – with his own political machinery – e.g., “the office of the president-elect”).
    His elevation to the spotlight of a woman-bashing, gay-hating cleric.
    Liberalism does not mistake toleration (e.g. social and political freedom for woman-bashing gay hating clerics to practice their religion) for endorsement, tacit or otherwise. Liberalism does not short-circuit procedures meant to protect individual interests and rights in the name of a specific preferred outcome (e.g. finagling pre-established publicly promulgated procedures that, however inconveniently, failed to produce a nominee for the Democratic Party at the end of June).

    Liberalism does not applaud the herd mentality.

  117. wbb….yes, in Bono’s case, they held a special election and she easily won the Rep. nomination, so she won the election.

    I don’t always agree with Bloomberg, but he is far more competent than most. He has a very difficult job and mostly does it very well.

    How things change. CK is no longer considered so great because they couldn’t get a quick decision. Blago is no longer considered a quick fix (impeachment, resignation) so he is like gum on BO’s — and Dems’ — shoe…just won’t go away.

  118. What Heidi describes above could well become the defining premise of a centrist party, inasmuch as the two existing parties have become equally illiberal–which is to say they favor the herd over the individual.

  119. I don’t always agree with Bloomberg, but he is far more competent than most. He has a very difficult job and mostly does it very well.
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    Freckles. He is a fine city mayor. I agree with you and carol on that point. It is when he tries to project power and influence beyond the five burroughs and links up with other wealthy interests that the questions I am concerned about–plutocracy become more germane.

    I have never bought the Edmund Burke argument that we should elect wealthy people because they are not corrupt or corruptable. He never met Teddy, or Kerry. But I do agree with his masterpiece Reflections on The French Revolution and the support he gave to our fledgling democracy in parliament during the Revolutionary War.

  120. More from Heidi Li

    Good ideas, no clout

    Here is a list that includes some fine ideas. Since the list comes from Now and the Feminist Majority, two major organizations that endorsed Mr. Obama for the Presidency, the list may reach the transition team or even perhaps somebody significant in the new administration. I would be very pleased indeed if the Obama-Biden administration decided to act upon the best ideas on the list or even really any of them.

    I would also be flat out astonished.

    The problem is that NOW and the Feminist Majority have no clout with this administration. They gave it away with their endorsement of the President-elect without getting any commitments from him on any women’s issue. In endorsing Mr. Obama, they excused his silence on the sexism and misogyny directed against Senator Clinton in the primaries and Governor Palin in the general election. (Regardless of whether one supported either of these women on the merits, it should have been unacceptable to refer to either as a “ho'” or a “c*nt”, and Mr. Obama should have been among the first to condemn this conduct.)

    NOW and the Feminist Majority and all the other major established women’s organizations I know about refused to withhold their endorsements even though Mr. Obama withheld his commitment to specific measures to enable women to achieve full civil, political, and social standing in America. The time when one has bargaining power with somebody one is hiring is before one supports him or her for the job. Mr. Obama took establishment women’s groups for granted, and I can’t see any reason why he won’t safely be able to in 2012. For now he’s too busy currying favor with people who did not endorse him but could help him raise even more buckets of money for that race – Rick Warren and his ilk.

    Women qua women will be the outsiders looking in at this administration.

    Women and men who genuinely care about women as persons, who truly appreciate that women’s rights are human rights, are going to have help ourselves. That’s fine, we do what we must. Just as Martin Luther King, Jr., Mohandis K. Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela realized that they could not depend upon their governments to aid them in the quest to dignify and improve the lot of their communities, so too must we,the community of people dedicated to women gaining their rightful place in our society, abandon that expectation, at least from an Obama-Biden administration.

    See 51 Percent for information about one such gathering place for this community

  121. Wishing everyone here a Happy New YEar. I been so busy, just had time to read a little. Admin, you’ve hitting them out of the park, great articles.
    I agree Hillary looked like she was having fun New Year’s Eve.
    As Blago Turns is really getting interesting, you got to give it to him, he’s unafraid!

  122. As the coronation day approaches and Hillary assumes the greatest challange of any SOS to take office in such troubled times,I have decided to change my attention and work 24/7 for her by a drive to make it her agenda and her efforts to restore sanity to a broken country and an eager world waiting for her steady hand to guide us back peace and respect in world politics.
    I will no longer focus on the stealth candidate in the oval office.No praise no attention is the correct way to minimize the flow of praise and glory to a false prophet with so many unindicted friends
    My new slogan is “NO ONE and NOTHING but HILLARY 24/7”
    Her accomplishments will be many but with a corrupt MSM,how can her efforts and world reaction become the focus for the world to see and support.We now know that no news about our CIC is good news.
    New Years Eve with Bill and Hillary was a joy to watch and it gave me hope and change all in one touching picture of what it was like and what will be again when she assumes the legally elected office of the presidency sooner or later and it will happen.
    We can no longar rely on MSM and their outpouring of opinion forming propaganda slanted to their aagenda.Join me and watch it take place surely safely and honestly.

    By ABM90 Old and out of the loop but ready to do battle for our country once more.!!!

  123. So let me get this straight, AAs support O at almost a 100% level, with blind faith, yet O does not support AAs for office (especially replacing him in Illinois). Women blindly throw their support to O with no promises, yet O does not state how he feels about women, nor does he strongly reframe from or stop supporters or others in their tracks when they use sexual defaming language.

    I guess I though groups in this democracy were smarter than that. The voters in the primary (and lets face it would have been in the GE), are smarter than that.

    Interesting as we see the blind supporters being betrayed.

  124. birdgal Says:

    January 1st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    Kevin Sheekey ignores Caroline Kennedy camp’s call to chill
    By MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

    Updated Thursday, January 1st 2009, 12:17 PM

    Showing no sign of ending his public lobbying for Caroline Kennedy, a key aide to Mayor Bloomberg declared Wednesday it would be “political malpractice” to pick anyone else.

    —————————————

    Unbelievable!!! I have to wonder who is lining this man’s pockets with silver.

  125. # wbboei Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 am

    What Heidi describes above could well become the defining premise of a centrist party, inasmuch as the two existing parties have become equally illiberal–which is to say they favor the herd over the individual.
    **************
    Dr. Feldman strips away the fluff and identifies the core issue: “two existing parties have become equally illiberal–which is to say they favor the herd over the individual”. The behavior of the Young Republicans of 2000 and the ‘bots of 2008 is the same.
    ***********
    (re-“friends in the Manhattan project….the best book that I have read on the subject is “The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes”….)

  126. re: Blookberg’s dep mayor who said,
    “The idea that we would pass up appointing someone to the Senate who is both a friend and a critical supporter of Barack Obama is political malpractice,” Kevin Sheekey, Bloomberg’s deputy mayor for government affairs, told the Daily News.
    “If Caroline is appointed, Barack Obama has to come to New York as his first political trip to … support her and, in turn, New York.
    “That’s what this state desperately needs.”
    ——————————————-
    What the state desperately needs in someone who can work for the State of New York in the Senate the way HRC has. Upstate finally learned what real representation is – now they’re being asked to give it up again for the good of NYC? NYCity politicians are ridiculously provincial.

    Seems to me Upstate would have better government if NYC seceded from the State of New York to become the State of New York City with its own provincial government centered on its own provincial ambitions.

  127. SHV: looks like a very interesting book. This paragraph of the google summary caught my eye:

    Rhodes addresses the difficult moral and ethical dilemmas faced by the scientists of the Manhattan Project, particularly the implications of creating such a weapon of mass destruction. Originally concerned with ‘‘pure’’ scientific research, those who worked on the Manhattan Project were forced to consider the ultimate effect of their research efforts on the future of the human race.

    That is what got to many of them in some way ro another.

    My dad had a fraternity brother and friend at USC during the mid-1930s. He was one of those gifted individals the stars shown on–handsome, brilliant, and willing to help other people. He used to help my dad with chemistry homework. He got a phd probably back east and became a professor of chemistry at Rutgers.

    When duty called he joined the Manhattan Project. I doubt his name is listed in that book, he was probably too young at the time to have been one of the key movers and shakers.

    After the war he committed suicide for no apparent reason. Not the usual reasons at least–money problems, family problems, terminal disease, etc. My suspicion–and we will never know for sure was he and some of his fellow saw the devastation wreaked by the bomb and could not live with it.

    I had an uncle who worked on it too. We just never talked about it.

  128. Showing no sign of ending his public lobbying for Caroline Kennedy, a key aide to Mayor Bloomberg declared Wednesday it would be “political malpractice” to pick anyone else.
    —————————————
    There are some things in life that are not meant to be and this happens to be one of them. It sounds like the Bloomberg/Kennedy machine is dug in and the critical mass of the political class in New York is dug in the other way. The media meanwhile is doing what they do best–throwing gasoline on the fire.

    If you have the leverage, you can sometimes force an agreement on your terms on your adversary. But the agreement has no stablility and when the other side gains counter leverage it will abandon the deal and fight you. Kennedy thinks if he spreads enough money around buy their support. He assumes that just because he is a whore the rest of the world is too. He’s wrong about that. Other people have money too. Power and ego are the trump card. He will either lose now or lose later–but lose he surely will.

  129. Concerning the innauguration–I am reminded of the comments attributed to General Patton (LeMay in a tank) in the movie by that name:

    When the emperors returned to Rome from foreign wars and were greeted by adoring crowds, they kept a slave in the back of the chariot to whisper in the emperors ear–sic transit gloria mundi–all glory is fleeting.

    Once he is in charge the thinking segment of the American People will be say what have you done for me lately. I do not want excuses. I want results. And I want them now. You told us you are the Messiah. Prove it.

  130. So I hear there is a contest out there to design m.o.’s innauguration dress.

    LOL…so much to say…so little time.

  131. Well…maybe there is time to say something…

    It won’t matter what this couple wears. Bill and Hillary will still outshine them.

  132. JanH Says:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
    So I hear there is a contest out there to design m.o.’s innauguration dress.

    LOL…so much to say…so little time.

    ————————————————————-

    You mean, it isn’t done already???

    BTW, Oprah is looking for a house in D.C. Hmmm…………..DNC is in Chicago, and Oprah will be in DC.

  133. birdgal .. Orca is gonna need one “whale” of a house. WTF is she doing looking for a house in DC? Surely to God we are not gonna have her be some kind of friggin ambassador or such. Oh by the way,, Fuck you Orca. I used to adore you and your show and now I can’t stand you

  134. Have you read Uppity Woman’s take on this?
    “Should Roland Burris show up for duty in the Senate on Tuesday, armed police officers stand ready to bar him from the floor.”
    uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

  135. dot48 Says:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
    birdgal .. Orca is gonna need one “whale” of a house. WTF is she doing looking for a house in DC? Surely to God we are not gonna have her be some kind of friggin ambassador or such. Oh by the way,, Fuck you Orca. I used to adore you and your show and now I can’t stand you

    —————————————————————————————————————-

    She’ll be the social engagement ambassador. I second the rest of your statement.

  136. I continue to be amazed at the diametrically opposed news stories regarding NYC Deputy Mayor Sheekley’s actions and statements about Caroline Kennedy being fit for, and named to Hill’s Senate seat.

  137. Could someone check and release my post OUT of moderation?

    I won’t support NOWunder any circumstances after the insult to us and their betrayal of Hillary.

    Meanwhile, Chicago politics are percolating as usual.

    Burris pees in Harry Reid’s Cheerios…

    Pumas Unleashed. wordpress.com

  138. # lil ole grape Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    Have you read Uppity Woman’s take on this?
    “Should Roland Burris show up for duty in the Senate on Tuesday, armed police officers stand ready to bar him from the floor.”
    uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
    ***********
    I hope Burris pushes this to the limit. Reid, the Dem “leadership” and the ‘obots have perverted the Presidential electoral process and now they want to pervert the Senate…..A legally elected gov., who has only been accused of illegality, legally appoints a person who qualified under Article I sec 3 and XVII amendment to an open Senate seat and the Senate majority wants to deny seating the legally appointed Senator based on the fact that the Gov is a political embarrassment. If Reid prevails, what is next..deny seating because they don’t like the Senator’s politics? as Heidi Li said: “Liberalism does not short-circuit procedures meant to protect individual interests and rights in the name of a specific preferred outcome”..Reid doesn’t get to pervert the Constitution because Blago is an embarrassment to the “O”.

  139. Emjay Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
    I continue to be amazed at the diametrically opposed news stories regarding NYC Deputy Mayor Sheekley’s actions and statements about Caroline Kennedy being fit for, and named to Hill’s Senate seat.
    ===============

    Even within the same newspaper, there are contradictory stories. But a lot of this might be different papers inventing different things, or listening to DIFFERENT anonymous sources. If there’s really a PR team out there planting stories, of course theirs will be invented to make CK look better.

  140. 2008 Military Times poll: Wary about Obama
    Troops cite inexperience, Iraq timetable
    By Brendan McGarry – Staff writer
    Posted : Friday Jan 2, 2009 10:09:24 EST

    When asked how they feel about President-elect Barack Obama as commander in chief, six out of 10 active-duty service members say they are uncertain or pessimistic, according to a Military Times survey.
    In follow-up interviews, respondents expressed concerns about Obama’s lack of military service and experience leading men and women in uniform.
    armytimes.com/news/2008/12/military_poll_main_122908/

  141. I hope Burris pushes this to the limit. Reid, the Dem “leadership” and the ‘obots have perverted the Presidential electoral process and now they want to pervert the Senate…..

    You’ve got it backwards… the Senate is and was corrupt. That is how we ended with Obama. They were corrupt to begin with.

    It’s all a ruse and you’re just not seeing it because the analogies followed are off the mark and far afield of what is actually happening.

    I am so thankful for Admin’s posts.. otherwise we’d be in a world of hurt following the Blogs talking just to theorize and talk some more.

  142. SHV Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    ———————————————-
    Earl Maltz, a professor at Rutgers University School of Law has been among scores of constitutional experts weighing in on the Blago/Burris controversy

    “There is one issue on which Maltz and most other experts appear to agree: A 1969 Supreme Court decision renders it almost impossible for the Senate to outright deny Burris entree to its august chamber.”npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98918311
    npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98918311

  143. I’m stating the obvious but I’m continually stunned — no, mildly surprised — at how simply awful CNN has become…..not that there’s anything much better.

    In staying home for nearly a week, I pass by to hear the latest on the Gaza situation. They keep saying LIVE or “the latest” and show the same footage for 3 days. It is still “BREAKING NEWS” that they killed the Hamas leader…3 days ago, I think. They then rminate that neither side is ready to settle.

    They then switch to domestic news and I learn every hour on the hour that the Obama children start school on Monday, that the Obamas are back from Hawaii and will stay at the Hays-Adams Hotel because Blair House is full. I then hear the same swipe at Bill Clinton: he also “stayed at the Hays-Adams which is near a favorite restaurant”.

    This news that nobody can use takes up about 1/2 of the hour and when we throw in the Aspen almost bombing, we’re back to live news from the Gaza strip.

    It all reminds me of the old days in radio when Dutch Reagan and everyone else would hear about games on the teletype and would recreate them for their listeners: “A mighty swing at the bat and the outfielder runs back, way back to the wall. He jumps up and makes the catch to take away the home run.” Fake games. Fake news. But this time they don’t even have their eye on the ball, just on the kids’ school schedule.

  144. “There is one issue on which Maltz and most other experts appear to agree: A 1969 Supreme Court decision renders it almost impossible for the Senate to outright deny Burris entree to its august chamber.”npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98918311
    npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98918311

    Of course! You don’t think they knew this before they filed with the ILL Supreme Court? Burris is a former prosecutor/atty general.

    Reid said he wanted to drag this out and put the issue before the Ethics Commission. Funny, Obama’s sole accomplishment was forming the Ethics Commission and it has been in deadlock ever since it was formed. Obama’s legislation left a loophole in it as wide as the Grand Canyon. There was never a proviso crafted into the legislation for remediation.

  145. A few of us are doing a faxing to Charlie Rangel. Your help would be appreciated if you have a few minutes to spare over the weekend..

    We has several form letters outlining why we think there are better qualified candidates for Hillary Senate seat. You can change the wording to anything you feel is appropriate and that you are comfortable with.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Below is a letter we are trying to circulate opposing Caroline Kennedy becoming the next Senator from NY @ this critical moment in history. I “blind cc’d” some of the people I wish to reach. Please go with your “1st” reaction on this subject.

    Thank you,

    A concerned NYer

    Dear Concerned NY State Citizens & Others:

    We ask you to join in an effort to ensure that Caroline Kennedy does not get selected as Sen. Clinton’s replacement for NY State.
    After learning Rep. Charles Rangel is close to Gov. Paterson, we thought that this would be a great way of getting our message through to our Governor. We are not sure if any of our petitions or other correspondences are reaching Governor Paterson at this time.

    We are aware that Congressman Rangel prefers faxes to e-mails; thus a fax campaign would be the best way to reach him.

    You can contact Congressman Rangel here: Fax: # 212-663-4277 / phone: 212-663-3900
    DC office: Fax #202-225-0816 / phone # 202-225-4365
    e-mail- rangel at mail.house.gov

    Feel free to use the following form letter add your own comments or create your own and fax it to Charles Rangel. Send copies to your family & friends so that by Monday Jan. 5th 2009, his office will be flooded with faxes & phone messages when he returns.

    Thank you in advance for your participation.

    Dear Congressman Charles Rangel,

    It has come to my understanding that you are a confidant to Governor Patterson. I would like to request that you get this message to him as I am not sure that he is receiving any of the letters, faxes, or emails that are sent his way. This request has to do with my respectful resistance to the “possible” choice of Caroline Kennedy to replace Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Jr.

    I have nothing personally against Ms. Kennedy, but my concerns for our State and America are more important at this time. Whoever is ultimately selected for our State Senate position needs to meet the following criteria in my opinion:

    # 1- The selectee must be qualified to be ready on day one. Senator Clinton has started a number of projects that her replacement might not be able to continue immediately. It is imperative that her replacement be able to be ready immedi ately to take over Sen. Clinton’s jobs. In March this year, Gov. Paterson’s ability to immediately take over in the Governor’s seat helped us to avoid a real disaster in NY State.

    # 2- Senator Clinton deserves someone that supported her during her Presidential bid for office. Many of us have lost faith in the political process and what our role has been in it. Let’s not even get started on how the media behaved against her during the primaries. There are many people in NY State and across the country that would appreciate having their voices heard. Sadly, the mess that is going on over in IL is not surprising to many of us. We do not wish for NY to appear to be handling this position in the same manner. Whoever gets this seat, should be ultimately qualified and seen as such. Appointing anyone without the proper experience, such as Caroline Kennedy, would appear to be just a political favor.

    # 3- It would be helpful to know that women do not lose another spot in their already low US Senate representation. There are many women in NY that meet the benchmarks previously listed. These include, but are not limited to the following: Carolyn Maloney, Geraldine Ferarro, Yvette Clark, or Kirsten Gillbrand. Appointing a qualified female to Sen. Clinton’s position would be a benefit not only for our state, but for our nation, as well.

    In conclusion, please seriously consider this request. In this time of an “American Idol Generation”, it is gett ing harder and harder to explain that being a celebrity does not necessarily equate to being a good representative for the people. Should Caroline Kennedy still wish to be a Senator for NY, she should wait and run for that position in two years.

    Thank you for bringing my concerns to our Governor.

    Sincerely,

    (sign name)

    (print name)

  146. At this point in time, the NY process is almost as corrupted as the IL debacle. The big difference: IL governor was caught on tape, NY governor hasn’t been caught on tape-yet.

  147. birdgal Says:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    At this point in time, the NY process is almost as corrupted as the IL debacle. The big difference: IL governor was caught on tape, NY governor hasn’t been caught on tape-yet.

    **************************************************

    I agree…the whole system is rigged…

    btw…has anyone read any of the comments on the blogs about reid, blag and burris…a rage going on that the dems after letting the repubs, bush, cheney, lieberman, etc do whatever they want…now, the dems take a stand against another dem…and in the meantime lose a dem vote…while creating such a major, theatrical distraction…how inept and stupid are the dims….

    embarrassing…and big O taught constitutional law and he can’t see that the LAW seemingly is on Burris and Blag’ side…for example…

    http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/02/reid-punkd-by-blago-over-burris-rejects-the-rule-of-law/

    …they are off to a great start…shooting themselves in the foot and looking like fools

  148. Pattersons comments on race raise an inference that he is not a man of honor. If he appoints Kennedy he will confirm that inference in the minds of many people. It will cause then to wonder whether he was bribed to do it and if so then how.

    The arguments I have offered up to this point that he will not appoint Kennedy because she is not qualified, whereas others are rest on one critical assumption: that he wants to win the 2010 election.

    If that assumption is wrong then there is nothing to prevent him from taking the path of least resistence and appointing the trust fund baby. Nothing that is except for the welfare of the state of New York. If he is a man of no honor then that will not be a deterrent.

  149. The west coast papers are now reporting that silver has gone beyond saying it is the govenors decision and now favors it. If that is indeed the case then he too has forsaken the voters of his state and the previous speculation that he has been bribed is back on the table.

  150. By ABM90 Old and out of the loop but ready to do battle for our country once more.!!!
    ———————————————
    My dear friend: You are about as old and out of the loop as are Paul Volker and William Jefferson Clinton.

  151. The following was copied from a comment Admin left for us a day or two ago:

    “In addition to promoting Kennedy, Sheekey also set her up with Knickerbocker SKD, the political consulting firm that also counts Bloomberg as a client.”

    If I were being paid big bucks to leave a strong favorable impression of a personality over a 3-4 day weekend I’d be leaving nuggets all over the country about “the client” too, moving with the sun on Friday afternoon, the usual political dump time.

  152. wbboei,
    Patterson is another BO shill. I’m disgusted he bcame the inadvertent governor. To this day, i wonder if Spitzergate was a deliberate ploy to put a BO AA in the NYS gov’s house. The timing was all too convenient.

    Patterson’s first act on becoming governor was to make noose displays a felony punishable by several years jail time. No similar punishment was provided for swastika displays or woman
    abuse. His decision was based on a COlumbia professor who had claimed a noose was placed on her office door. It was later confirmed she’d put it there, herself.

    Patterson also said in a speech this summer that if BO wasn’t elected it would be proof of racism and he was one of the first to jump on the dump-HRC band wagon and push her under the bus.
    AND, he recently signed into law a 30% hike in welfare, caving into a (ACORN-sponsored?) group that was sung the state for increased welfare benefits.

    Here’s a CK.DP story from ABC news.
    ******************
    Two people close to Gov. David Paterson tell The Associated Press they believe Caroline Kennedy will be his choice, but the governor cautions he’s still looking.
    The New York Times reports that during a New Year’s Day open house at the executive mansion, Paterson said “It ain’t nothin’ till I calls it.” The quote recalls a statement once made by legendary baseball umpire Bill Klem.
    Meantime, despite early reservations, New York state’s most powerful legislative leader tells the New York Post he’ll support Kennedy. State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver says he’ll work for her election.
    Paterson has sole authority to name a replacement for the next two years. Under state law, there would be an election to fill the last two years in 2010.

  153. The following was copied from a comment Admin left for us a day or two ago:

    “In addition to promoting Kennedy, Sheekey also set her up with Knickerbocker SKD, the political consulting firm that also counts Bloomberg as a client.”

    If I were being paid big bucks to leave a strong favorable impression of a personality over a 3-4 day weekend I’d be leaving nuggets about “the client” all over the country too, moving with the sun, on a Friday afternoon, the usual political dump time.

  154. BBC Live from London, has just teased a story they are going to run this hour asking “Do we really know Barack Obama and what he believes?’

    I’ll let you know what they report.

  155. I agree the timing of Spritzer-gate looked suspicious: he was just coming out strong for Superdelegates for Hillary.

    But re Paterson, if he really wanted CK, why would he be publically rejecting the pressure and letting the story drag out? His actual STATEMENTS have all been about merit, and longterm performance, and waiting till the last minute to make hsi own decision. If he really decided to go for CK, even if not announce it yet, wouldn’t he at least make a private committment to her handlers so they could call off their dogs (or TO the dog) instead of inflaming the issue and making themselves look silly.

  156. I’m sure oprahdoodle will take advantage of the foreclosure on some poor family’s home and sweep in nice and cheep. On the other hand, she probably wants to live in a palace.

    ——————————-
    As far as ck being prepared for anything, I’m not sure what that could be. She certainly isn’t anywhere near the calibre of a Hillary Clinton.

  157. Emjay,

    It’s been very amusing to watch CNN et al now asking questions about obama’s intentions to follow through on all his promises…especially when it comes to middle class woes. Wasn’t it his team that argued that Hillary would say anything to become president?

    I would ask them to look in some mirrors but I think they would crack!

  158. Mrs. Smith. Excellent letter. I will fax it.

    The timing of spitzer gate is very interesting. I thought that spitzer’s reluctance to come out on Broadwater, when everone in Ny (except bloomberg) abhored it, was very strange. As soon as Paterson took office he nixed it. In hindsight, it looked as if someone had the goods on Spitzer and was using it.

    The amount of money and the potential to destroy Long Island sound was huge.

  159. lil ole grape Says:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    2008 Military Times poll: Wary about Obama
    Troops cite inexperience, Iraq timetable
    By Brendan McGarry – Staff writer
    Posted : Friday Jan 2, 2009 10:09:24 EST

    When asked how they feel about President-elect Barack Obama as commander in chief, six out of 10 active-duty service members say they are uncertain or pessimistic, according to a Military Times survey.
    In follow-up interviews, respondents expressed concerns about Obama’s lack of military service and experience leading men and women in uniform.
    armytimes.com/news/2008/12/military_poll_main_122908/
    &&&&&&&&

    The gist of Obama’s candidacy was that he was an “outsider”: to DC politics, to the military, etc.
    The gist of McCain’s candidacy was that he knew how Washington works, and knew the Armed Forces by direct personal experience.

    The public chose. The public swallowed media brainwashing. Experience was deemed to be a hindrance, with Obama blissfully above the fray of knowing anything. “Um, er, uh, ….”

    He’s all yours, US citizens. All Yours.

  160. The public chose. The public swallowed media brainwashing.
    ==========

    According to exit polls Nov 4, 16% of McCain’s voters were in effect Pumas; they would have voted for Hillary if she had been on the ticket. That doesn’t count Pumas who stayed home.

    The public wanted Hillary. The DNC cheated. Sure the media helped, but the public’s heart stayed in the right place, even to the extent of voting GOP rather than for Obama.

  161. The Irish reporter interviewed by the BBC has written a book about Obama- sees him, compared to Europeans, as a “conservative with a small “c”, not a liberal, and an affable person…That’s his whole book…boring… and vapid. The program head got him off the air as soon as was decent.

  162. The Irish reporter interviewed by the BBC has written a book about Obama- sees him, compared to Europeans, as a “conservative with a small “c”, not a liberal, and an affable person…That’s his whole book…boring… and vapid. The program head got him off the air as soon as it was decent so to do.

  163. emjay, turndown,

    I sure hope you’re right about DP.

    It’s bad enough having to flip through channels to avoid BO’s mug. IF CK’s imposed on us upstaters my TV browsing will be limited to the weather channel and Natgeo.

    👿

  164. So it looks like Paterson will pick CK after all. I can’t wait to see how he justifies it. She sure as heck isn’t more qualified than the others being considered. The MSM reported weeks ago that Paterson probably wouldn’t be able to resist the pressure, and they were apparently right.

    Spinelessness is a common flaw in politicians, so Paterson has plenty of company. Peter King is certainly happy about this.

  165. BTW, Hillary doesn’t care who Paterson picks (she’s got bigger things on her mind, obviously), so I’m not going to sweat it. I just feel bad for the people of New York, who deserve a qualified senator. But maybe CK is a quick study who will prove me wrong.

  166. ‘But maybe CK is a quick study who will prove me wrong.”

    %$$##@%^@!

    A quick study in incompetence and nepotism!

    Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Sorry, Paula, but I just moved to NYS and I’m already wishing I’d moved somewhere else!)

  167. If Paterson picks CK, his primary opponents will bludgeon him over the head with it repeatedly. If he gets past the primary, his Repub opponent will do the same.

    Therefore, if he selects CK, to me, it would seem a graceful way of declining to run. Maybe the job is too demanding.

    On that account, there’s no doubt in my mind that the job of President is too demanding for Obama. So he’ll dumb down the job requirements to make it easier on himself. Show up at 9. Fit in your workout. Leave by 5pm. Hmmm, just like Bush.

    Now Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Hillary etc., ordered a lot of pizzas and stayed up late, running the country.

    When you outsource, you lose control. You have people like Dick Cheney saying what’s torture or not.

  168. basil,

    her incompetence, his incompetence, the corrupt way she got the seat.

    I just feel that it doesn’t make the dims look good in any way for her to get the job. Further to that, there is no way she will accomplish or work as hard as Hillary has done, so she will need to be propped up just like Bo. I believe history will document this as one more disgusting move by the diminished dims.

  169. I dunno, Jan.

    I think you’re giving us yanks entirely too much credit for retrospective analysis. 👿

    Anyway, here’s an interesting synopsis from Rev Amy at NQ about the anoint CK movement.

    “Last week, Silver said Kennedy seemed more loyal to Mayor Bloomberg, who has twice defeated Democratic opponents, than she was to Paterson.
    He also said he was unhappy with Kennedy’s less than 100 percent commitment to support the Democratic candidate who’ll run against Bloomberg, who was twice elected as a Republican, this year.
    Asked if he was now more favorably inclined toward Kennedy then he was last week, Silver responded, “Yes, it’s true.”
    The speaker insisted he had no inside information – from the governor or anyone else – that Kennedy would be named to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton, President-elect Barack Obama’s choice to be secretary of state.
    But he said he reached the conclusion her appointment was likely because of “public opinion polls, which are not negative, and because the governor, I think, wants to run [in 2010] with a strong candidate, and I’m sure . . . having a well-known woman on the ticket will be helpful.”
    Meanwhile, Bloomberg’s top political aide, Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey – who has been lobbying for Kennedy – played his trump card yesterday. He argued that only Kennedy, an early Obama supporter, would have the clout a cash-strapped New York will need within the next administration.
    “I think New York needs someone who can work with the new president. I think New York needs someone who supported the new president. I think New York desperately shouldn’t appoint someone who opposed the new president,” Sheekey said.
    I think Sheekey means to say this is the payback for all Kennedy Schlossberg did for Obama during the campaign, like comparing him to her father, though there is absolutely no basis whatsoever for such a comparison. And for her coming out of her private little world to stump all over creation for The One (and no doubt, her uncle’s influence in having the RBC make a mockery of any sense of decency and fair play).

  170. CK is just foillowing her family’s tradition of buying what they want. It started with Joe Kennedy, who bought JFK’s seat, then TK’s seat (formerly JFK’s). And the beat goes on.

  171. Paula siad: But maybe CK is a quick study who will prove me wrong.
    ===============

    She hasn’t been very quick about studying what to say in interviews, or other ways to communicate her thoughts, if she has any.

  172. All Hillary all the time.Center stage is where she belongs.The world is waiting for her mission to start Jan 20 2009. 24/7

  173. Listening to the radio and AP reports CK will be the next Empire State Senator!

    Pass the barf bags!

    Anyone have different info on this?

  174. Basil,

    Comparisons will be made from day one. Hillary rocks when she speaks to the media and to the populace. ck can barely string two words together at a time. Hillary is firm on the issues and solutions needed. ck is on the lower end of the scale when it comes to even knowing what her state is struggling to overcome. I don’t think I am underestimating the case at all…lol… She will have to prove herself within two years. I just don’t see that happening.

    On a happier note, my friends have started referring to B.O. as barky O. I kind of like that!

    ——————————–

    ABM90,

    You remain my wise hero and steadfast Hillary supporter!

  175. Putting BHO and his “selection” process aside and putting CK out of it, I remember thinking that experience doesn’t matter because it is all those DC politicians that hold onto their seats for years that really screw things up for all of us.

    I was thinking, someone like Joe the Plumber, et al, who questioned the status quo, who knows nothing of how politics has evolved or works could become the true representatives of the people.

    I keep hoping that someday the PEOPLE will finally get their government back. I noted that nearly a1/3 of the “eligible” voters did not vote. that says a lot about how outside the process we feel we are and in fact really are. it says a lot because the people’s voices are not being heard.

    In 2009 I hope with all my heart we start down the path to rid ourselves of insiders and clean out the dust and rust of this government.

    Luv ya all

    Happy New Year Hillaryis44

  176. debbie Says:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    ————————————-

    Great Post!

    Happy New Year to you! I hope it is a great one!

  177. Basil, if we this unhappy about CK, can you imagine the NY democrats that have worked for years in government. People like Carolyn Mahoney, would be an excellent choice. She has a track record of accomplishments.

  178. OMG!

    Roland Burris has two children named: Roland and Rolanda!

    LMAO! Talk about ego!

    ———————————
    birdgal,

    I agree about Mahoney. I was really hoping she would be Patterson’s choice.

  179. Roland and Rolanda! LMAO ! Yeah, I heard that.

    I also saw video of his mausoleum with space left at the bottom for additional ‘offices.’

    LMAO!

    I worked for years in the equivalent of the South bronx in New Jersey and it was packed with the pulpit preacher type many AA politicos, unfortunately, fashion themselves after. It’s a cookie-cutter version of the Sopranos. Same pompous bloviation coupled with a fascination with the sound of one’s voice and the sight of one’s image in the nearest mirror or camera.

  180. So, where are the Republicsns in all this posturing of the undemocratic Democratic Party?
    What is going on with Fox? Have they lost their mind or their audience or both?

  181. After I voted the results were as follows:
    Poll Results
    Thank you for voting.

    Would Caroline Kennedy make a good replacement for Hillary Clinton in the Senate?

    Yes 44%
    No 56%
    __________________________________
    source with an handwww: nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/01/2009-01-01_paterson_no_caretaker_for_hillary_clinto.html

  182. # Carol Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Mrs. Smith. Excellent letter. I will fax it.

    The timing of spitzer gate is very interesting. I thought that spitzer’s reluctance to come out on Broadwater, when everone in Ny (except bloomberg) abhored it, was very strange. As soon as Paterson took office he nixed it. In hindsight, it looked as if someone had the goods on Spitzer and was using it.

    The amount of money and the potential to destroy Long Island sound was huge.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Good points all. An indcation of just how long the Principals have been at it. Spitzer was definately a set up. Set up just like WJC. My impression is this. They basically don’t care what Caroline can or can’t do. Her taking Hillary’s seat if for their own purposes and her personal security. As a Senator, she will have special privilidges especially federal protection. It’s all part of the deal made for Kennedy’s support getting Obama elected. Ethel’s family will be under Bobby Jr federal protection.They zigged and opened up a seat for Caroline to get her on board. The end game is total governmental control of NY and the guarantee of protection for the Kennedys. The X-factor,( there always is one) is they never factored in the opposition to Caroline ineptitude. They assumed she was the Golden Girl NY’ers would love having represent them. She never even bothered to put on a good front by having a plausible spiel for the public’s consumption to reinforce her street cred.

    The Ace up their sleeve is Paterson. The Senate seat depends on the word of just one man.. and you can bet they have him tied up 6 ways from Sunday!

    This is becoming interesting on how they think and plan. The Republicans were much more direct. For every action there was a reaction but with the Principals the plans and motives are much more comlex. The ratios of action to reaction have evolved into threes. Action, reaction results in a third action.. The ultimate, perfected, state of the art Triangulation.

  183. I agree with JanH’s post a few hours ago about how the CK appointment reflects poorly on the Dems and how inevitable comparisons to Hillary will expose CK as woefully unprepared. I also think Sheldon Silver pretty much makes the case why Paterson is doing this: He believes having CK running as senator in 2010 will help him keep the governorship. It has nothing to do with her competence or qualifications.

  184. Some people on No Quarter also suspect Obama’s fingerprints are all over the sudden acquiescence of Silver and others to the idea of CK as senator. I don’t doubt it.

  185. So is obama caught between a rock and a hard place where Burris’s appointment is concerned? Damned if he plays into Blago’s hands, damned if he doesn’t and allows the race issue to come into play?

    Should be interesting. I wonder if Reid et al are being thrown under the bus to take the heat for this.

  186. This Carolyn Kennedy soap opera has become a morality play with biblical implictions–which should go viral to elucidate the evil forces which are in play here. Thus:

    THE GREATEST LIE EVER TOLD

    Emperor Caligula . . . . Lady killer Ted Kennedy

    Pontius Pilot . . . . . . .Gov. Accident Patterson

    Christ Figure . . . . . . People (NY + America)

    Thief Barabus . . . . . . Princess Caroline

    (Note: Barbabus was spared when Pilot crucified our Lord Jesus Christ to serve his Roman master).

    P.S. The next time I go looking for a job I shall remember to bring along baby pictures of myself to impress the employer. And when they ask me if I am nuts I shall say I learned it from Caroline.

  187. Dems in senate to be ‘cool’ to Blagojevich senator pick Burris. What knumbknuts! Don’t they know that the people are the ones they serve???

  188. wbboei Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 11:30pm

    P.S. The next time I go looking for a job I shall remember to bring along baby pictures of myself to impress the employer. And when they ask me if I am nuts I shall say I learned it from Caroline.

    **************************
    That is priceless!! LOLOL!!!

  189. So is obama caught between a rock and a hard place where Burris’s appointment is concerned? Damned if he plays into Blago’s hands, damned if he doesn’t and allows the race issue to come into play?
    —————————————
    I believe bambi and reid will back down. Probably let him in subject to a ruling by the do nothing ethics committee which will do nothing and then the mantra will be the problems of the country are such that we cannot allow the seat to remain unfilled.

  190. Wbboei: Your morality play is so true. What is BO’s role?

    CK is full of hooey. She said that she wasn’t entitled to this senate seat, but who else besides a wealthy, indulged, and inexperienced person from a powerful political familywould be acting, as if, she is the inevitable choice? She is working for herself and her family. She is so woefully unprepared, and doesn’t have a clue about the needs of NY, especially upper state NY. No idea about real people. This situation is so wrong, on every level.

  191. The NY situation is as dirty and corrupted as the Chicago situation, except Blago is bucking the system. He knows, where the skeletons are. He may be able to plea bargain, in exchange for information regarding other players.

  192. Some people on No Quarter also suspect Obama’s fingerprints are all over the sudden acquiescence of Silver and others to the idea of CK as senator. I don’t doubt it.
    —————————————
    That is pretty obvious. He said as much with his stupid assine comments about her.
    But it needs to be made explicit. Let bambi come forward and say it so nobody is in doubt. That way when she fails and is voted out of office the monkey will be on his back. By midterm elections he will be drowning in problems and people will be
    wondering why the Messiah has not solved them like he promised.

    In the meantime someone should ask that fucking Silver who he works for–the chicago thug or the people of New York. What a pathetic excuse for a leader he is.

  193. wbboei,

    Hillary put a gigantic number of cracks into the glass ceiling. Obama and his band have already created cracks in his teflon shield. By the time he is finished, there will be nothing left but a few crumbs.

  194. Wbboei: Your morality play is so true. What is BO’s role?
    ———————————–
    Birdgl: B.O. is Roman soldier who pounds nails into the hands and forearms and legs and feet of the Christ figure, i.e the American People and mounts him on the cross where he will suffer and eventually die. Certainly that is true of the middle class in a Bambi administation. The bots are the stone throwing crowds who want barabas spared rather than Christ.

  195. CROSS EXAMINATION OF PRINCESS CAROLINE

    Question: ms kennedy, or should I call you trust fund baby, or perhaps just spoiled brat.

    Answer: I perfer spoiled brat.

    Question: very well. Then tell me ms. brat: do you regard the senate job as an impotant one to the country?

    Answer: yes, but it is not nearly as important as I am. Do you know who my father was?

    Question: I will take that as a yes. Would you also agree it requires hard work?

    Answer: yes, and that is why I have servants–to do the hardwork. At home I call them butler, maid, chauffeur and hubby.

    In my new senate office they will be called chief of staff, director of communication, legislative directors and scheduler.

    My job will be to entertain dignitaries, pose for photo ops, and winter in the swiss alps.

    Question: have you read the job description for a US Senator?

    Answer: that is what I have lawyers for. I dont need to clutter my head with such details. My job is to watch over the process– from afar.

    Question: do you consider yourself “qualified” to be senator?

    Answer: what a silly silly question for you to ask.

    Question: my question to you Madam (Mrs. Otis regrets shes unable to lunch today) is do you consider yourself qualified to be senator on day 1?

    Answer: dont raise your voice with me young man or I shall call the butler and have you evicted from this court room.

    Judge, I will give you one of my autographed baby pictures if you will hold this vulgar man in contempt.

    Court: the witness is directed to answer the question

    Answer: I am not a witness, I am a Kennedy, as in president kennedy. The right word in the right quarter and you will be defrocked. I will have you cleaning out ash trays for a living.

    Court: proceed counsellor–and hurry up

    Question: are you qualified to be senator–yes or no?

    Answer: why I never thought you would ask (or that I would have to answer). Of course I am qualifed. I also know bo. I call him gumby.

    Question: ms. brat: have you held prior public office?

    Answer: no-it is beneathe me

    Question: have you been an active in the political process in New York?

    Answer : what do you mean by active?

    Question: I mean have you ever done it?

    Answer: no it is beneathe me

    Question: have you made financial contributions to candidates in New York–other than the returned check to HRC

    Answer: no, but you have got to realize that just because you have $100 million dollars of inherited wealth to your name, and splurge on yourself does not mean you can afford to spend money on other people. That would be wasteful.

    Question: you have testified that you have not served in public office, have not been active in the political process and have not made meaningful contributions to the party from your vast fortune. Why then do you think you are qualified to be senator?

    Answer: osmosis

    Question: please elaborate

    Answer: you are really stupid. I went to Harvard, where did you go to lawschool. I took chemistry!

    Question: in lawschool?

    Answer: no you fool. In undergraduate school.

    Question: and how does that relate to osmosis

    Answer: when you stick a carrot in a glass of water and leave it there it gets saturated with water. Growing up in the Kennedy family that is all we talked about was politics. I am saturated.

    Question: that is all very interesting but by the time you were old enough to form an opinion on this your father and your uncle robert were tragically gone. So from whom did learn how to be a senator.

    Answer: from my uncle teddy. (Witness sticks out her tongue in a defiant gesture).

    Question: so what you are saying is you are qualified because you learned about politics not through doing, not through paticipating and not through contributing but by listening to uncle ted?

    Answer: was he sober or saturated?

    Answer: I have never seen him sober. I resent the implication.

    Question: are you familiar with the qualifications of other candidates for the position?

    Answer: they are commoners. That is all I need to know.

    Question: let me ask you about one of those candidates. Andrew Cuomo is a native New Yorker, has held high public office, discharged those duties admirably, participated in the political process, raised substantial money. Why do you think you are more qualified than he is?

    Answer: because my name if Kennedy, my father was a president, one uncle was attorney general another is a senator, and as far as I am concerned this cross examination is terminated.
    (Angry look. Fade to black).

  196. Hillary and Bill were at Times Square midtown Manhattan ringing in the New Year with the American People there and across the country thanks to television. She was radiant and despite the cold temperature was basking on the glow of being named New Yorker of the Year.

    And where praytell was President Elect Bambi on new years eve while average Amercans contemplate the grim realities of job loss, and declining wealth? Was he with them as the Clintons were. Hell no. Then where was he. Instead he was right where you would expect him:

    Luxuriating reclusively in a 9 million dollar condo in Hawaii and parading that 98 pound weakling body body of his before a cadre of hyperventillating reporters armed with note pads, pencils and drool cups. In effect, he was MIA.

  197. Someone upstream commented that Spitzer was set up. One has to wonder what the draw is for the Chicago mob wanting to control New York?
    Isn’t the Chicago mob like in the concrete business, well New York has the WORST highways in America, they want to expand and Chicago is 7th. They need CK in there to assure sucess!

  198. emjay,

    h*****/ no w

    donedems.com/2009/01/02/dueling-leaks-muddle-caroline-drama-puma-unites-again-to-block-her/

  199. Jan 20 2009 BHO will be crowned and the fate of his carreer as CIC will rest in his hands and the commands of his MSM creators.He will live or die by his own words and actions.There is little left for us to do or say about his rule.A blind eye and a deaf ear will be his weapons of self destruction as the MSM and his weak knee senate supporters face reality and conclude that they have created a blank page in our history.
    Hillary will have the eyes and ears of the world leaders upon her and will show her magnificent understanding of the needs and wants of the people of all countries and all religions.It is now imperative that we focus on her and her efforts to restore sanity to this planet.The MSM must be shown and exposed as a major enemy of truth balance compassion and wise decisions in the new world politics that she will create and fight for.
    Now on for me it will be a cry for a worldwide focus on her every word every meeting with world leaders and the welcome of Hillary with open arms by people longing for a lasting peace and a return to sanity in foreign policy.Give her a chance and she will make us all proud of our country again.

    By ABM90. Join me on creating a new tack for this new ship of state with hillary at the helm.

  200. I think anyone employed in this country, who is asked to prove citizenship for a job should decline to do so, and sue the comopany if not hired based on the precedent set by O. I wonder what the courts would do with that, as they obviously don’t think a citizen has the right to ask for that of a US Presidential candidate. So then why should a corporation have this right?

  201. confloyd Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Someone upstream commented that Spitzer was set up. One has to wonder what the draw is for the Chicago mob wanting to control New York?

    Isn’t the Chicago mob like in the concrete business, well New York has the WORST highways in America, they want to expand and Chicago is 7th. They need CK in there to assure sucess!

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    # Carol Says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Mrs. Smith. Excellent letter. I will fax it.

    The timing of spitzer gate is very interesting. I thought that spitzer’s reluctance to come out on Broadwater, when everone in Ny (except bloomberg) abhored it, was very strange. As soon as Paterson took office he nixed it. In hindsight, it looked as if someone had the goods on Spitzer and was using it.

    The amount of money and the potential to destroy Long Island sound was huge.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’m sure everyone has heard this truism at one time or another: “He who controls Energy, controls the World”.. This was the fate the Energy Czars had in store for New Yorkers, i they had their way early on.

    A snippet of the teaser:

    What benefits does Broadwater offer?

    Can it really deliver?

    The issue on many people’s mind is how to afford energy costs that keep rising. Not just this winter, but in the future. An independent report commissioned by LIPA said that New Yorkers would save nearly $21 billion in energy costs during the first 10 years that Broadwater operates.

    3w’s broadwaterenergy dot com

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    The Anti-Broadwater Coalition

    As late as: 2/07/2008

    w’s… rpalumni.org / nolng

    This website is intended to alert, inform and protect our Long Island communities that are now facing the imminent peril of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) proliferation, which would have a disastrous impact on our residential communities if we just sit idly by. Energy companies are currently attempting to build dozens of large dangerous Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) importation facilities onshore and offshore of some of our coastal communities throughout America, Canada, Europe and Mexico. A facility is planned off of Wading River on the North Shore of Long Island.

    Only the construction of nuclear energy plants would be more dangerous for our residential communities.

    By building a liquid natural gas (LNG) storage facility in the middle of Long Island Sound, would we be turning a wonderful natural resource and national treasure that hugs the entire Long Island shoreline into an industrial site?

    Shell and TransCanada Energy, two of North America’s largest energy companies, have proposed building a 10-story-high, four-football-field-long (about the size of the Queen Mary cruise liner) liquid natural gas storage facility in the middle of LIS.

    The proposed facility would be 75 to 100 feet tall. It would be four football fields long and larger than the QE2. It would be anchored 10.5 miles from Cosey Beach Park in East Haven, about 17 miles from the Long Island Sound Ferry, and 18 miles from Hammonasset Beach.

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    Nov 1 2007

    Broadwater lobbyist becomes Spitzer aide, UPDATED

    weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2007/11/broadwater_lobbyist_becomes_sp.html

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    Jan 01 2008

    Governor Spitzer Will Say No — or Yes — to Broadwater

    h/t/ t/p/ ——thissphere.blogspot.com/2008/01/build-tunnel-under-sound-and-its-just.html

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    March 11 2008

    Gov. Spitzer Scandal in New York Has Broadwater Implications in Connecticut

    h/ t/ t/ p—–blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/2008/03/gov-spitzer-scandal-in-new-yor.html

    CT Gives the Go Ahead for Broadwater Project

    March 20 2008

    w 3’s —–ct.gov/csc/cwp/view.asp?a=3&q=404634

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    imo… The Principals had a noose around Spitzer’s neck but he never knew it. The noose of course, was Spitzer’s laisson with a working girl. Spitzer was torn between fear and overconfidence. Fear of the discovery of his infidelities and fear of doing the wrong thing for New Yorkers by allowing this behemoth of landscape changing, dangerous endeavor going forward.

    The overconfidence came with Spitzer being the deciding factor of whether the Natural Gas exploration proposition would become reality. Spitzer thought he could ride it out until the end… inferring to the Principals he would allow it and in the end Vote NO!

    (The name of the project Broad (and) water sort of sums up Spitzer’s predicament)

    I’m sure everyone remembers Tim Russert’s question to Hillary at the end of the debate referencing Spitzer’s stand on Illegal Aliens in NY. He asked her if she supported his proposal of driver’s licenses for illegals..IIRC.. Hillary knew it was a “trap” question. She reluctantly stood up for Spitzer, adding the reference, Spitzer was a friend of hers and she supports his plan.

    This was a lame attempt by Russert to lash Hillary to Spitzer for the unbeknown upcoming scandal.. We all know, it didn’t work out as they had planned.

  202. (cont from above)

    The epilogue is this… Caroline will acquiesce to anything the Principals are after. NY’ers won’t have the representation they deserve by having someone like Carolyn Maloney in their corner fighting for them.. and for cover, they may even create a man made emergency as the excuse for Broadwater to go forward..

  203. wbboei Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 am

    Hillary and Bill were at Times Square midtown Manhattan ringing in the New Year with the American People there and across the country thanks to television. She was radiant and despite the cold temperature was basking on the glow of being named New Yorker of the Year.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, Hillary was exhilarated by the announcement she was Voted NY Person of the Year and she was radiant.. I thought my heart would burst, I was so overjoyed for her.

    He knows everytime Hillary is publicly lauded for her good work, a hammer is sure to follow that will set them scrambling..

    It’s really a shame we have to live like this… but it usually never fails. The only way to prevent it is to change the dynamics of the entrappment and that is silence and no comment… Using this tack… the msm has nothing to grab onto… and that is exactly what they’ve done.

    Thanks you, Admin for having this site. It’s the only Blog I follow besides Hillary Unleashed and Pumas Unleashed. Most of the other blogs are about themselves and their amusement. I tend towards the more serious ones with insight and facts and commit the facts to memory, growing with it …with what we know to be true to stay safe.

  204. ABM90 Says:

    January 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
    ——————————————
    Well said!

    While the puppet obama reign will definitely be a blank (or scandalous) page in the history books, Hillary will definitely be remembered for her, tireless efforts to make the world a better place!

  205. Lou Dobbs Show had a report on yesterday about the thousands of illegal immigrants who are living in low-cost housing, while so many Americans are homless and on the waiting list.

    Apparently they get around this by having their birthed children in the U.S.

  206. Yes, Jan, that is true.

    In the South-Bronx-in New Jersey school district where I taught there were a number of Domincans who lived in the DR but would come to the states to give birth to their kids so they would be automatic citizens.

    Even the ‘legal’ Dominicans were disgusted by this practice.

    Same thing was true for many Peruvians, Hondurans and Mexicans.

  207. Exactly with the illegals using our systems of government, basil9.

    I have pondered just what the Republicans are doing, or plan to do. I visited newt.org’s blog and, Wally, a poster there had the following to say: “Remember that Obama Told Us He Would “Change America” – NOT Change Government.

    The Goal of the Obama Marxist Movement is to Create “Self-Doubt” and “Insecurity” in Every American So Americans Will Turn to Him and Big Government to Satisfy Every One of Their Needs. That’s All.”

    I foresee that as well. The country will be in or near-depression, people will be hurting, they either won’t bother to notice or will acquiesce to whatever the Huckster proffers.

    It would seem that Newt wants to offer better solutions and not be negative. I wonder what world he is living in. Corrupt people do not ‘care’ about better solutions, all they care about is power and money and they will commit any crime to get it. In order to get a stubborn donkey’s attention it sometimes takes a 2 x 4 upside the head.

    I also foresee that there will be a Senator Princess Kennedy. The act of appointing her alone tells the nation that the undemocratic Democratic Party is not about what is good for the people. Not the people of NY. Not the people of Illinois. Not the people anywhere in the country. They are about power and money and corruption.

    It really does not seem to me, after viewing the ability of the Huckster and CK, that an ivy league college education does much more than instill the sense of entitlement. If the two have studied the Constitution, then they only came away with how to destroy it or ignore it.

  208. ShortTermer Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 am

    “I also foresee that there will be a Senator Princess Kennedy. The act of appointing her alone tells the nation that the undemocratic Democratic Party is not about what is good for the people. Not the people of NY. Not the people of Illinois. Not the people anywhere in the country. They are about power and money and corruption.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I wholeheartedly agree, ST. and this acquiescence of both Parties as “ONE” Party of totally corrupt government means the People of this country are on their own…There is no going back until and unless the entire system fails and falls to rock bottom because of something reminiscent of the Storming of the Bastille. I am not advocating any such thing. Alls I’m saying is History bears out the template for total reform because there IS no other way. All we can do is hope and pray our planet is still inhabitable when they are through with the proliferation of toxic waste, pollution the soil, digging up every square foot of land and sea mass that portends “ENERGY” (when in fact bio-fuels and electric-hybrids are the proven solution quickly ending the addiction to oil)

    When you think of Trust Fund babies holding on for dear life to Standard Oil. The Rockefellers, Duponts, Van Bureans, Phipps, Whites and the rest of the elitists … the arrogance of a certain group of people holding the Planet hostage to the wonts of their greed and wealth is mindboggling.

  209. It is easy to envision the worst case scenario and forget one of the immutable laws of nature:

    “For every action there is an equal and opposite reacton”. Isaac Newton–The Second Law of Physics.

    So let us look at the best case sceario. Teddy Kennedy dies-and a plague is ridded from the world. Caroline is appointed (remember that can also be a best case sceanario if . . .) she fails in her job, and the dims lose both the senate and the governorship, the economic problems of the country worsen and bambi is seen as ineffectual in dealing with them, Fitz strikes oil in Chicago, Bambi speechies and nobody listens, he raises expectations to the moon with lavish intergalactic coronation ceremony and six months later we have 10 percent unemployment people are asking why did that empty suit waste on that money on that silliness when people are suffering and on what meat doth caesar feed that he is grown too great, Jesse Jackson Jr. is indicted for bribery, Bambi goes down hard in the mid term elections, race rioting in the streets when people who felt validated by his candidacy do not see their lives changing for the better, more big media go out of business, a third party emerges from the ashes, and Hillary proves to be “a greater than Marshall”.

    It is always dawn/

  210. “princess kennedy” is right. But by my thinking is that while her jerk of an uncle wants to maintain the dynasty, faulty as it may be, he is also green with jealousy over how popular the Clintons are… He is determined to have America think that the Kennedys are first “royal” family, and not the Clintons. So I personally think this move to bring ck in has a lot to do with mining into Hillary’s popularity and wiping it out.

    LOL…I’m sure kennedy is thrilled…NOT…that Hillary will be sos. He’s probably working within to destroy her abilities as we speak. Thank God Hillary can handle any weapon he throws at her.

  211. I will tell you in all candor the biggest enemy of the people of this county is big media. There is no greater threat to our future. None. They ansesthesize us with bullshit, cornonate false gods, censor the ruth and lie. Consider the following examination of Olberman–worst person of the century.

    Question: what do you do for a living?

    Answer: I lie–profusely, blatantly, constantly

    Question: sir, I asked you what your job was

    Answer: no you did not. Re read the transcript. You asked me what I do for a living. And I answered you truthfully– for once in my life.

  212. Everything in your scenario is possible/likely except for “a third party emerges from the ashes”. The American plurality political system makes it almost impossible for a third party to be successful, except as a transition as one of the “two parties” is headed for the trash-bin of history.

  213. uncle wants to maintain the dynasty, faulty as it may be, he is also green with jealousy over how popular the Clintons are
    ————————————–
    Correct. And it makes him feel impotent. Any candid assessment of his life would reveal that he was a blight on the family tradition. He killed two women–Mary Jo and Joan along the way. He was first, last and always a rich rum sodden party boy. A child of privilege. He was never liked by the American People. That is his true legacy and his immortal epitaph. Big Media will try to corronate him when he finally slips the mortal coil. They will invent things about him which were never true. Informed people will not buy it.

    But his motive in this election was fully revealed was when he saw Chelsie after he threw his support to Bambi and pressed her to tell him whether she intended to pursue a career in politics. That was a morbid question to be asking her after he had just stuck a knife in her mothers back. But it makes perfect sense if he was worried about the rise of a competing dynasty.

  214. The American plurality political system makes it almost impossible for a third party to be successful, except as a transition as one of the “two parties” is headed for the trash-bin of history
    ————————————-
    You are absolutely right based on current conditions, assumption and orthodoxies. But assume for the sake of argument that things things get bad, and neither party is capable of responding. In that case it is not unthinkable that ambitious operatives from both political parties would see the opportunity and move to seize it. After all nature abhors a vaccuum. The stuctural impediments would be substantial, money would be needed, and a charismatic leader would need to emerge. The two existing parties would fight it jointly and severally. By definition this is a best case sceario, but under the right conditions it could happen.

  215. wbboei,

    You explained my points about kennedy’s motives much better than I ever could. I had forgotten his disgusting question/trap to Chelsea. How totally amoral this man is.

    Thank you for the excellent analysis.

  216. wbboei Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    “[It]was fully revealed was when he saw Chelsie after he threw his support to Bambi and pressed her to tell him whether she intended to pursue a career in politics. That was a morbid question to be asking her after he had just stuck a knife in her mothers back. But it makes perfect sense if he was worried about the rise of a competing dynasty.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You hit the nail on the head, wbboei. Kennedy was/is afraid the Clintons would have wanted Chelsea to fill Hillary’s NY Senate seat. And right again, Teddy knows his days are numbered and except for Arnold, whats left of The Kennedy Klan is in danger of extinction without government protection

  217. Speaking of birthing your children in the US. NM Gov’s mother went to LA I believe to birth him, to give him the US advantages. He is soon to be Secretary of Commerce.

  218. wbboe: you sir are my fountain of truth and I admire and cherish every word you use to describe the state of affairs of this great but wounded nation..Your assessments of the current state of the political morass is truly a work of patriotic art.I feel like I have returned to school and my teacher ( you )is the best our nation has produced to inform and tutor an eager student (me ).Thank you sir for redirecting my limited efforts to stay in the fray for Hillary against an evil group of political junkyard dogs that insist on hope and change for their financial futures.

    By ABM90 Jan 20th is the start line for the race to responsible government and world peace.I’ll try to keep up my friend.

  219. Several weeks ago I ventured the opinion that Hillary is not concerned about the fate of her senate seat when she moves to the larger stage. She has an ability to move past lifes disappointments faster than anyone I have seen and it is a tribute to her self discipline. She has all the mental qualities Napoleon looked for in a great leader including the ability to not become to elated by good news or too depressed by bad.

    Nevetheless, I now think that was wrong in thinking she did not care or could not afford to. I cannot believe after watching her work as hard as she has on their behalf as a senator, and seeing how happy she was to be named New Yorker of the year, I can only assume she is as devoted as she ever was to what is best for New York. Therefore, I cannot imagine that she is keen on seeing Princess Caroline shoe horned into the seat. This has nothing to do with personal reasons, and everthing to do with the welfare of a state she loves and a state that loves her.

  220. ABM90: there must be some good synergies here then because I could have just as easily said the same thing about you ABM90, and the rest of our on line community.

  221. I am offended by the appointment of CK but she is not the devil. She did, for instance, attend a teach-in arguing against the Clinton impeachment. TK also has done many good things.

    They both stabbed Hillary in the back but it is possible that they believed in half of what they did.
    My wrath does not extend to believing that they are evil.

  222. Rut..Roh..

    “Days before Gov. Blagojevich was charged with trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, top Senate Democrat Harry Reid made it clear who he didn’t want in the post: Jesse Jackson, Jr., Danny Davis or Emil Jones.
    Rather, Reid called Blagojevich to argue he appoint either state Veterans Affairs chief Tammy Duckworth or Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times.
    (snip)
    “Jim Manley, spokesman for Reid, acknowledged Friday that Reid called Blagojevich as well as other governors who had Senate vacancies in their respective states..
    (snip)

    w.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1360191,harry-reid-blagojevich-jesse-jackson-010209.article

  223. This is an article from McKensie which is the premier management consulting firm in the world. It is the one government planners and major corporations listen to routinely. This article is a pretty good expose of what is happening and what is in store in terms of the business cycle, the equity premuim and why 1929 is unlikely.

    It is a little archane, but stick with it. I think it is far more accurate than anything you will hear from bambi or see in big media. I think it is relevant to our discussion.
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    CREATIVE DESTRUCTION AND FINANCIAL CRISIS: An interview with Richard Foster
    A coauthor of Creative Destruction explains how the business world—and the capitalist system—will change in the aftermath of the financial crisis.
    DECEMBER 2008

    In This Article
    Sidebar: Biography of Richard Foster
    Letters to the editor
    Richard Foster, a McKinsey director from 1982 to 2004, is a coauthor of Creative Destruction: Why Companies That Are Built to Last Underperform the Market—and How to Successfully Transform Them. In that book, he and Sarah Kaplan argue that to endure, companies must embrace what economist Joseph Schumpeter called “creative destruction” and change at the pace and scale of the capital markets, without losing control over current operations. In a recent interview with the Quarterly, Foster offered his view of how the current financial crisis might change the business world and the capitalist system.

    Biography of Richard Foster
    Richard FosterVital Statistics
    Born June 10, 1941, in Cleveland, Ohio
    Married, with 3 children
    Education
    Earned BS (1963), MS (1965), and PhD (1966) in engineering and applied science from Yale University

    Career highlights
    • Millbrook Management (2004–present)
    Managing partner
    • McKinsey & Company (1973–2004)
    Director (1982–2004)
    Fast Facts

    Coauthor of Creative Destruction: Why Companies That Are Built to Last Underperform the Market—and How to Successfully Transform Them (2001)
    Elected a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the President’s Circle of the National Academies
    Member of the board of directors of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, Yale School of Medicine Dean’s Advisory Board, W. M. Keck Foundation, Council of Foreign Relations, and Council for Aid to Education, among others
    Senior Faculty Fellow, Yale School of Management
    _______________________________________

    The Quarterly: How does your vision of creative destruction apply to today’s situation?

    Richard Foster: Let’s start by looking back. In the 1970s, we had the “Nifty 50”—invulnerable companies that couldn’t possibly lose, and of course they all did. It will be the same today; there will be surprising losers, and survival will come down to simple things, like cash and margins. If you’re a low-margin company without a lot of cash or perhaps with too much leverage, you will not make it. Someone will figure out how to do better.

    In the financial-services sector, the upheaval will create a new generation of leaders. Fifty years ago, we didn’t have 8,000 hedge fund managers. Then somebody said, “We can go short as well as long; we have much better information than people did in the 1930s, and the information comes to us instantaneously rather than days after the event. We can make a lot of money modeling and leveraging that information.” So the hedge funds were born. How many of those guys had been successful at mutual-fund management? I don’t think any. They might have been commodity traders, but few were mutual-fund managers. Today, other kinds of people with no experience or expertise will challenge incumbents from outside the industry, and there will be a lot of them. Most of the challengers will fail, but a few will succeed, and they’ll become the heroes of the next generation. If you had to bet on anything, that’s it because that’s what has happened in the past.

    The Quarterly: Could you elaborate on this life cycle?

    Richard Foster: In the book, Sarah Kaplan and I show that over the long term, the market performs better than companies do. There can be periods—5, 7, 10, even 15 years—when that isn’t the case, but corporate performance always reverts to a lower level than the market because the economy is changing at a faster pace and on a larger scale than any individual company so far has been able to do without losing control. That’s the challenge: to create, operate, and trade—to divest old businesses and acquire or build new businesses—at the pace and scale of the market without losing control.

    The balance among creating, trading, and excelling operationally changes over time. When the economy is in a growth spurt, there’s more creating. Few companies are trading very much and operations are fine. In those circumstances, the newer companies in the economy tend to outperform the index, and the older companies that are only focused on operations underperform the market.

    As the market collapses, the weaker upstarts get squeezed out. The survivors are the cash-rich “operators,” which perform at levels closer to the averages, which themselves are lower. Companies that operate well shine in down times, as they are now. Every investor on the planet is looking for companies that have cash left. The turmoil will clear away the weaker companies—the companies that have taken too much risk. This doesn’t mean they’re bad companies; it’s just that they’ve taken on too much risk given their balance sheet resources.

    The Quarterly: What happens then?

    Richard Foster: New, young companies that have conserved cash and have solid and often expanding margins surge ahead. When this happened in the ’70s, companies such as The Limited, The Gap, Home Depot, and John Malone’s TeleCommunications Inc. sprung from the burned forest. After the crash of 1987, Microsoft, Oracle, and Amgen took off. Then in the ’90s, we had the Internet companies. Creation will happen again and will again leave behind the big guys trying to rely solely on operations.

    The Quarterly: To what extent is today’s financial crisis different from earlier ones?

    Richard Foster: The granddaddy of cycles in this economy is the equity premium, which is the difference between the longer-term total returns to shareholders and the supposedly risk-free debt rate–the t-bill. It is the premium the equity investor gets for taking the equity risk. Looking back, we can see seven great cycles. During the boom times, when the equity premium goes way too high, everybody hocks everything to get in on the game, and this creates the conditions for a crash. When the crash occurs, the politicians come in and say it was this or that person’s fault. Then they create regulatory institutions, and virtually every one of those institutions—starting with the Federal Reserve, in 1913, as a result of the crash of 1907—has been quite productive for the nation in the longer term. This includes the formation of the Securities and Exchange Commission, in 1934; the Investment Company Act, in 1940; the beginning of the end of fixed commission rates in 1970; and the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, in the early 2000s.

    The Quarterly: What happens in the aftermath of the new regulations?

    Richard Foster: What do self-respecting entrepreneurs do when subjected to new regulations? They learn the regulations backward and forward and then vow never to start another business that falls within the scope of those regulations. And so off the entrepreneur goes to find a new way. That’s one reason credit default swaps eventually took the form they did—the other options were regulated.

    The new entrepreneur often seeks ways to innovate outside the scope of the newly established regulations. In the beginning, all that works out fine. We have innovations, we love the people who created them, they’re great heroes, the returns are strong, everybody says, “I’m going to be one of those guys.” Eventually, all the truly good guys who are going to get into that business have done so. The opportunity starts drawing less savory figures—charlatans who overmarket, cut corners, establish usurious contracts, and do other clever things to generate profit for themselves. They end up bringing the system down. Then guess what happens? At the end of that period, after the equity premium has soared and collapsed again, the government steps in and regulates the systems, this time focusing on the last wave of abuse. And then we start over.

    We were getting somewhat better at handling these cycles until 2000, but since then we’ve gotten worse. The collapse of 2008 isn’t like the crash of 1929, because we have the institutions that were created in the last century, and they are very effective. Understanding the differences between the ’30s and today is at least as important as understanding the similarities.

    The Quarterly: Capitalism has just taken a beating. What will the future look like?

    Richard Foster: The essence of capitalism is capitalizing—bringing forward the future value of cash to the present so that society can grow more quickly by taking risks. It goes back to the Dutchmen in the 16th century, sitting at their coffeehouses in Amsterdam and Leiden, loaning each other money for a guaranteed return. Someone said, “I’ll give you a little higher return if you give me a piece of the action”—and equity was invented. That had the effect of bringing forward, into real cash today, the net present value of future earnings. That levered society and allowed it to grow at a much higher rate than it would otherwise have. Equity was a very clever invention, and we are not going to give it up. This is the way people are. This is the way commerce works and will continue to work unless capitalism ends. And that won’t happen, regardless of what you read in the press.

  224. I am offended by the appointment of CK but she is not the devil. She did, for instance, attend a teach-in arguing against the Clinton impeachment. TK also has done many good things.

    They both stabbed Hillary in the back but it is possible that they believed in half of what they did.
    My wrath does not extend to believing that they are evil.
    ——————————————
    I learned the opposite lesson a long time ago. I was making your very argument to a civil rights attorney that the indictment was overbroad, that it failed to account for other reasons, the good which bad people had done and the moral ambiguity of peoples actions.

    He listened to me patiently since I was a former student of his. And then said when I put it all on a scale and weigh what said on their behalf against all that they have done to hurt people or the country I am at peace.

    Calculating people invest time and money in to build a good self images and it does not mean they are good people. When they move to assume power over the rest of us through underhanded means it is no longer a private matter. At least that is my opinion. Rebuttal?

  225. I believe when you betray those that have helped you and those who are your friends, you deserve to sink with the crap that you betrayed them for.

    As was discussed about bad people doing good things. I don’t think that the fact that Hilter’s reign which resulted in the interstates we have today in ANY WAY MAKES UP FOR THE HORRIBLE WAY JEWISH PEOPLE WERE TREATED, TORTURED, AND KILL. I WILL GLADLY LIVE WITHOUT THE INTERSTATES TODAY, IF THAT PART OF HISTORY HAD NEVER HAPPENED.

    We heard that with Bush, oh it will not be that bad, so just live with it. Who wants to be where we are today, not me. Relatives of mine continue to rationalize, Oh how bad can it be to have O for a few years.

    However, what they don’t want to face is we lost our Democracy’s with both of the unelected leaders, and we do pay for that. However, we don’t want to pay the price of getting it back.

  226. Let me try it another way. Nobody is all one thing. Everyone has another side to their personality. Take Teddy for example. He tried to get universal health care too, he is friends with Orin Hatch, and I am sure there are other things he has done that merit honorable mention. Caroline too. It must have been tough growing up without a father, seeing her brother die and feeling the obligation they all do living up to the legend and safeguarding her hundred million dollar inheritance. What is more, she is a mother and has been a benefactress of worthy causes. And all these good acts will be magnified ten fold by the slavish media.

    But the fact remains she is opporunistic, arrogant and presumptious in beliving she is qualified to represent a state with twenty million inhabitants. She is putting the interests of her family before those of the country. She is allowing her uncle and his minions to pressure a governor who is a trembling tower of tapioca to appoint her and to trick the system to the detriment of its citizens–save those who are bamboozled. That is what I personally am reacting to. I do not presume to speak for others.

  227. For me, one huge difference between teddy and ck and the Clintons and Chelsea is parental guidance, love, and sacrifice.

    The Clintons would protect their daughter forever and a day. teddy would use ck forever and a day to suit his agenda.

  228. Days before Gov. Blagojevich was charged with trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, top Senate Democrat Harry Reid made it clear who he didn’t want in the post: Jesse Jackson, Jr., Danny Davis or Emil Jones.
    Rather, Reid called Blagojevich to argue he appoint either state Veterans Affairs chief Tammy Duckworth or Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times.
    (snip)
    “Jim Manley, spokesman for Reid, acknowledged Friday that Reid called Blagojevich as well as other governors who had Senate vacancies in their respective states..
    ——————————————
    Then it is safe to assume that Reid is on tape as well. Wonder why he did not want Jesse or Emile Jones. Seems like they would have been perfect inductees into his den of thieves. Must have been a case of racial bias.

  229. And those so-called “worthy causes” have been shown to be not so worthy after all, i.e. her focus on education. Apparently she missed many more meetings than attended on the boards she sat on. Her books are coffee table exposes with as little original writing on her part as possible.

    Money corrupts!

  230. hello hillfriends…this new info about reid is very interesting…makes one begin to speculate in many directions…again, the dem leadership does not give a damn about what the people want…as long as they maneuver and manipulate the primaries, elections and appointments to get their ‘friends with connections’ in…that is all they care about…forget about experience, or giving the people some say…

    i mentioned it before but the ‘timing’ of this blago thing, coupled with this news about reid behind the scenes, etc…this whole thing smells really bad…

    ***********************

    i read a comment on another blog that said Carville was recently quoted saying to get ready that there will be alot of democratic scandals breaking…i did not hear him say that myself…anyone here?

  231. “Then it is safe to assume that Reid is on tape as well. Wonder why he did not want Jesse or Emile Jones. Seems like they would have been perfect inductees into his den of thieves. Must have been a case of racial bias.”
    **************
    “Blagojevich spokesman Lucio Guerrero confirmed that Reid (D-Nev.) and U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) — the new chief of the Senate Democratic political operation — each called Blagojevich’s campaign office separately Dec. 3. Sources believe that at least portions of the phone conversations are on tape…”
    *************
    Reid was pushing for White women..he didn’t think any of the AA males could win in ’10. Reid is an idiot…if he knew he was on tape, he should have accepted Burris with open arms.

  232. It sounds like the entire den of thieves needs to be indicted. Reid wanting white women and stating which person was acceptable, or not acceptable does not sound on the up and up. This entire debacle gives credence to the need for special elections. Sounds like Reid is in a snit, because Blago appointed someone who wasn’t on the “list.” Blago is not going quietly into that good night.

  233. birdgal Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    It sounds like the entire den of thieves needs to be indicted. Reid wanting white women and stating which person was acceptable, or not acceptable does not sound on the up and up. This entire debacle gives credence to the need for special elections. Sounds like Reid is in a snit, because Blago appointed someone who wasn’t on the “list.” Blago is not going quietly into that good night
    ***********
    Now I am beginning to understand why Blago’s atty didn’t object to extending the time for possible indictment for 90 days. They know what is on tape and they will give Fitz time to find out for himself. I assume that all of the “wiretap” transcripts will have to be provided to Blago and his atty. Get out the popcorn.

  234. Gloria Steinem yesterday said Gov. Paterson should appoint Rep. Carolyn Maloney to the Senate – and ask Caroline Kennedyto run for Maloney’s House seat instead of the Senate.
    Maloney, 60, who represents Manhattan’s East Side and part of Queens, has been quietly pushing her case for the seat being vacated by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clintoneven as Kennedy, 51, has received more attention.

    h*****/**w

    nypost.com/seven/01032009/news/politics/steinem_touts_kennedy_for_ny_seat___in_h_147003.htm
    Comment box at the bottom, wants login. We’ve had many alerts here before. Few comments up yet!

  235. Did i miss something here? Was Caroline appointed to Hillary’s seat?

    I saw a post from Freckles stating she was offended by the appointment of CK

  236. neeta,

    NO ONE is appointed yet Paterson says he will not appoint anyone till Hillary is confirmed and resigns, and says he hasn’t even interviwed CK and no interview is set up yet.

  237. turndowno…that article is interesting in many ways and of special note to Admin as there is a paragraph about O’Byrne:

    Paterson also said the topic of the open Senate seat may have come up in passing with his former top aide, Charles O’Byrne – but insisted the one-time secretary to the governor hasn’t been advising him on the appointment.

    O’Byrne, an old Kennedy family friend, has been helping Caroline in her push for the seat, The Post has reported. He left his government post last year after it was revealed he hadn’t paid income taxes for five years this decade.

    Admin is way ahead of them…

    ****************************
    SHV…Blago must have a lot of stuff on a lot of people…no wonder they want him considered crazy and gone…

    guess this is the tip of iceberg carville is hinting about…

    “He isn’t [advising the governor],” Paterson said.

    But when pressed on whether he’d spoken with O’Byrne about the open Senate seat, or about Kennedy, Paterson said, “I can’t say that I haven’t spoken to him about the fact that it exists, but I would say that he obviously is not craving any more attention, not wanting to be the limelight. I believe he is in Florida and would just rather stay out of the process.”

  238. Gloria Steinem yesterday said Gov. Paterson should appoint Rep. Carolyn Maloney to the Senate – and ask Caroline Kennedyto run for Maloney’s House seat instead of the Senate
    —————————————-
    Too sensible. I have given up predicting what he will do. For now.

    Well . . . ok one more shot at the apple: the reason this wont happen is because Teddy wants to live to see the day when there are two kennedys in the senate once more.

    Yes, you heard it here first. I had the scoop. Of course I just made that up, but I got there firstest with the mostest. Who cares if its true?

    You idiot–how can you just make stuff up and impute the worst intentions to public officials. What evidence do you have??

    Relax-that is what big media does for a living. Do you think they are the least bit worried about a little thing like . . . . evidence. Just ask Olberman what he does for a living (supra).

  239. suntimes.com:

    Burris proclaims, “We are the senator.” Wants to avoid media circus over Obama seat.

    By Lynn Sweeton January 3, 2009 11:00 AM | Permalink | Comments (4)

    WASHINGTON — Roland Burris, being Roland Burris, put it to me this way Friday when we talked: “We are the senator.”

    And we, that is he, the former Illinois attorney general, told me that he will try to avoid making a scene when he comes to the Capitol on Tuesday to claim the seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama. Burris is arriving in town Monday night.

    “There is no confrontation here, there is no antagonism here,” Burris said in a phone interview from Chicago. “And so we are proceeding very diplomatically, and we are proceeding with all concern about not creating any type of circus that will entertain the media.”

    The new Senate will be sworn in Tuesday. Senate Democrats don’t want to give Burris the oath of office because he was appointed by Gov. Blagojevich, who is facing federal public corruption charges for trying to sell the Obama seat in a variety of schemes.

    The Senate faces a chaotic week, with the Minnesota Senate race recount now favoring Democrat Al Franken, the comic, over the GOP incumbent, Sen. Norm Coleman; the mess over the Obama seat, and Caroline Kennedy in play to replace Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama’s pick for secretary of state.

    Burris told me that he talked to Sen. Dick Durbin — the assistant majority leader — on Friday, and they will seek a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and others in the next week — day uncertain — “and then see what their positions are, and we will take it from there.”

    Terry Gainer, the Senate sergeant at arms — the former director of the Illinois State Police who goes back years with Burris from their Springfield days — told me Friday that they are prepared for Burris to come knocking on the Senate door.

    “I do not believe there will be any physical confrontation. The Senate is not that kind of institution, and Burris is not that type of leader … there will be a businesslike resolution to what occurs on Tuesday,” Gainer said.

    Pending final resolution, it’s possible Burris will get some office space, a limited staff and maybe even be put on some kind of payroll. Though the senators may allow him on the floor, to hang around in the back, Burris could not vote or sit behind one of the desks in the Senate chamber.

    Burris also revealed that Durbin advised him — before it was offered — not to take a Blagojevich appointment.

    Durbin, said Burris, “said don’t take the seat, he had said that, certainly, and I took that into consideration.” Burris said a reason he accepted the offer from Blagojevich was “to take this issue off the plate of the people of Illinois, and they can go on with other problems.”

    He also ruled out a caretaker role; Burris said he would likely run in 2010 to keep the seat if his appointment sticks.

  240. By The Associated Press – 57 minutes ago

    Guest lineup for the Sunday TV news shows:
    ___

    ABC’s “This Week” — Senate appointee and former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris, D-Ill.; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

    ___

    CBS’ “Face the Nation” — Vice President Dick Cheney.

    ___

    NBC’s “Meet the Press” — Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.

    ___

    CNN’s “Late Edition” — Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat; Govs. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., and Mark Sanford, R-S.C.; former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass.; Queen Noor of Jordan; Israeli Cabinet Minister Isaac Herzog; Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyu.

    “Fox News Sunday” _ Former President George H.W. Bush.

  241. JanH: thanks for the list of what not to watch on the boob tube tomorrow.I think that the obituaries are more exact and factual.MSM has become a farce and a slanted bore.I will just wait until Hillary takes center stage and we will get the feeling of confidence and pride in watching a real brave and fearless patriot at work to save her country and reassuring the rest of the world that good things are going to happen again if we clean up our political systems of the infestation by leeches and pork happy money grubbers.

    By ABM90 REmember people it is all about Hillary now 24/7

  242. LOL…ABM90,

    I’m going to try to tune in Burris. Anyone who goes around using the royal “we” as in: “we are the senator”…just makes me grin.

  243. from S earlier this afternoon:

    i read a comment on another blog that said Carville was recently quoted saying to get ready that there will be alot of democratic scandals breaking…i did not hear him say that myself…anyone here?
    ————————————
    a friend told me that something like that is on politicalticker (cnn).

    I’ll try to find it for you.

  244. Strange change going on.Not a peep out of the DNC and the super delegates that allowed themselves to be snookered by their own party.They now find themselves in a state of insignificance and potentially unemployed.they all need a six months course in waste management and rehabilitation of their political and municipal waste they left behind in their haste to play the Reid,Pelosi,Dean and Kennedy game of bait and switch for 44.May your long line waits in the unemployment benefits
    last until hell freezes over.Take a good look you failed egotists.Hillary is standing tall and ready to clean your miserable clocks as she leads honest Americans into a new era of political honesty peace and prosperity.Good riddance is the best that I can wish for you all.

    By ABM90 All Hillary All the Time 24/7

  245. Senator-select Roland Burris from IL appears to me to be acting like a gentleman and a well educated lawyer.

  246. Emjay Says:
    January 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
    Senator-select Roland Burris from IL appears to me to be acting like a gentleman and a well educated lawyer.
    ===============

    Senator-select and former Attorney General….

  247. Emjay Says:

    January 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
    Senator-select Roland Burris from IL appears to me to be acting like a gentleman and a well educated lawyer.

    ————————————————————————————-

    Seems to be that way. Maybe, some of the others will start acting like mature adults.

  248. S

    Here it is:

    By James Carville
    CNN Contributor

    James Carville is a Democratic strategist who helped get Bill Clinton elected to the White House in 1992. He also served as a senior political adviser to the former president. Carville remains active in Democratic politics and is a party fundraiser.

    Simple math says Democrats are more likely to get caught up in scandal now than are Republicans, Carville says.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — You know, people will insist that 2008 had 366 days. I don’t believe it. I think it had 36,066 days.

    It certainly felt much longer than any year that I’ve ever experienced. Only time will tell what’s in store for us in 2009, but first I have a few predictions.

    Internationally, I believe there will be a peace agreement between Israel and Syria in the next 18 months. It is something that will be a priority for the incoming Obama administration.

    In domestic politics, my first prediction is one that pains me to make, but I’ll make it anyway.

    The Democratic Party has had a recent run of corruption and sex scandals. Mathematicians say that there are no such things as streaks and that the last event has nothing to do with the next. The only people who disagree are crapshooters and political operatives. Since I am both, I firmly believe that there are streaks and that political scandals happen in clusters.

    The Republican Party had its fair share of scandal and charges of deeply imbedded corruption preceding the 2006 election and leading up to the 2008 elections. More: Politicians who fell from grace

    Don’t Miss
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    Top 10 political stories of 2008
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    Commentary: Please, no more scandal in 2009
    It doesn’t hurt to point out that these types of things are also more likely to harm the party in the majority — Republicans had more elected politicians (315 Republican officeholders in House, Senate, and state governorships) leading up to 2006.

    With two big Democratic elections in a row, Democrats now hold a larger majority — 340 U.S. representatives, senators and governors. Simple math and history point to the fact that the more elected officials a party has in office, the more likely its politicians will get caught up in some sort of scandal.

    The current streak, however removed from President-elect Barack Obama, doesn’t bode well for Democrats in 2009. Read more predictions from CNN’s analysts and contributors

    Secondly, 2009 will be a year in which the Republican Party will be confronted with a near catastrophic ideological rift. There is no obvious Republican leader on the horizon, and the party is caught between its Southern/talk-radio base and the rest of the country on whether they should oppose or cooperate with Obama’s administration.

    The combination of the lack of an obvious leader and the general political combustibility of the Republican Party will lead to a dangerous fissure that will plague it until the 2012 election cycle.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of James Carville.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/02/carville-makes-painful-prediction-for-2009/

  249. Emjay,

    Burris may indeed be a gentleman of honor. I just have a hard time with his connection to Blago.

    I would love to see him do some good in the senate. I hope that happens.

  250. from JanH’s comment copying Lynn Sweet’s article in the Chicago Sun Times:
    —————————————
    Pending final resolution, it’s possible Burris will get some office space, a limited staff and maybe even be put on some kind of payroll. Though the senators may allow him on the floor, to hang around in the back, Burris could not vote or sit behind one of the desks in the Senate chamber.
    ————————————————

    Burris also revealed that Durbin advised him — before it was offered — not to take a Blagojevich appointment.

    Durbin, said Burris, “said don’t take the seat, he had said that, certainly, and I took that into consideration.” Burris said a reason he accepted the offer from Blagojevich was “to take this issue off the plate of the people of Illinois, and they can go on with other problems.”

    He also ruled out a caretaker role; Burris said he would likely run in 2010 to keep the seat if his appointment sticks.

    =========================

    Excuse me, but doesn’t that first paragraph sound like something straight out of the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. It is straight out of segregation, the south, the southwest, and the southeast…clear up to southern IL, northern MO and northern VA.

    It smacks of separate drinking fountains, lunch counters and bathrooms.

    And it is disgusting.

    I have sent an email with this paragraph quoted, plus my comments, to Reid, Durbin and my two senators…Grassley and Harkin.

    Feel free to template if you want…just tell the rest of us if it makes you mad too.

  251. Simple math says Democrats are more likely to get caught up in scandal now than are Republicans, Carville says.
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    What? Simple math?? Or simply corruption??? That assumes the base of each party is equally corrupt. He has a study perhaps to validate that statement. Or is he talking off the top of his head. What an incredibly dumb statement. Is this what you have to say to stay on cnn. I thought better of you.

  252. Burris also revealed that Durbin advised him — before it was offered — not to take a Blagojevich appointment
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    I am not surprised. Dick Durbin from the great state of Illinioi–the land of Lincoln–and the private preserve of the Illionis Combine. Welcome to the line-up.

    Praytell why out of all the people who could have stepped forward and told Burris to stand down why did it turn out to be Durbin? Is it because he is the senior senator, is it because he is a lieutenant of Mormon Harry Reid who does not want a black or a woman in the seat unless her name is kennedy, or is it because he (Durbin) does not want reform any more than Bambi does because he too is a product and beneficiary of that corrupt system.

    But then again perhaps I sell him short. Perhaps there is one more unsoiled dove lurking in the Illinois Combine whorehouse. I suspect Blago could venture an expert opinion on that subject as it relates to Durbin. Perhaps he too is on tape.

  253. JanH

    Burris hasn’t held office since 1995.

    He has been an active Dem for almost 55 years.

    He and his firm, including his partner, have been regular contributors to Dem party and candidates for almost 55 years.

    I contributed about the same percentage of my Soc Sec to Hill as he did to Blago from his pocket and firm.

    Am I dirty re HillPac or HRC’s campaign?
    Didn’t think so.
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    Some facts:

    Roland W. Burris (born August 3, 1937) is an American politician and former statewide officer in the U.S. state of Illinois.

    Burris served as Comptroller of Illinois from 1979 to 1991 and as Attorney General of Illinois from 1991 to 1995.
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    He has been in private practice since 1995.
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    Burris was born and raised in the small community of Centralia in southern Illinois. Burris was a 1955 graduate of Centralia Township High School. On October 24, 2008, Roland Burris was named Distinguished Alumni of CHS with five others, including James Brady. They were the first to be named Distinguished Alumni from CHS. He attended Southern Illinois University Carbondale receiving a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science. He was an exchange student on scholarship to study International Law at the University of Hamburg in Germany. He earned his Juris Doctor degree from Howard University School of Law in 1963. Burris is married to Berlean M. Burris, Ph.D., and is the father of two adult children, Dr. Rolanda S. Burris, and Roland W. Burris II. He also has a grandson, Roland T. Burris.

    After graduating from law school, Burris became the first African-American National Bank Examiner for the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency for the U.S. Treasury Department. In that capacity, he traveled throughout the Midwest, examining banks in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin. From 1964 to 1973, he worked at Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company (now Bank of America), serving as tax accountant, tax consultant, commercial banking officer, and vice-president. He headed a commercial group that covered government guaranteed loans and minority business banking.

    In 1973, he was appointed by Illinois Governor Dan Walker as Director of the Department of Central Management Services, serving through 1977.

    He was National Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer for Operation PUSH from January to October 1977. He was in private law practice from October 1977 to January 1979, and again from June 1995 to present.
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    I graduated from Bloomington HS, just north of Centralia, where my first husband’s family was from. We all know Dr. Burris and her energetic husband.

    And we all like all of the family.

  254. Why this turf war? Bambi is obvioiusly sent a signal to Silver just like he did at the convention. If you defy me you will get no dnc money for your campaigns. Why is this so important? Is it simply politics or is he worried that both Burris and the New York contenders other than Kennedy have more loyalty to the country than to him, and would be inclined to vote in favor of a special counsel for Illinois–which is the last thing in the world he wants. I do not know. But if I were big media and it were not prescious I would just say it and pretend it was true.

  255. emjay,

    Thank you for the information on Burris. I wasn’t trying to imply anything. I simply stated that the connection to Blago bothered me. Other than that, I’m sure he is as upstanding as you suggest and I wish him well.

  256. Emjay Says:

    January 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
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    Quite an impressive resume’. He seems very well qualified and respectable for an appointment to the senate. Amazing credentials, especially since most of his education and experience, were before affirmative action.

    On the other hand, the family certainly likes the name “Roland.” First time, I have heard of a Rolanda.

    And some people think CK is “qualified.” I don’t think so.

  257. Happy day, Terry McAuliffe has announced his run for Governor of Virginia and will make it formal next Wed in a week of campaign kickoff.

    I applaud him for his energy, enthusiam and unwavering support of our girl, Hillary. I miss him and Harold Ickes, you bet your sweet a$$ I do.

  258. Emjay Says:

    January 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
    S

    Here it is:

    By James Carville
    CNN Contributor

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    thanks, Emjay…god only knows what carville ‘knows’…

  259. That was an excellent micro-econ seminar. Thanks.
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    Emjay–I thought of you when I posted that article–because you are very knowlegable on the subject and your husband was a renouned authority in the field. Therefore, your seal of approval is meaningful. McKenzie billed it as one of the twelve best articles they published last year and it will be a classic in business literature.

  260. birdgal

    Not only was his education obtained before Affirmative Action, notice that he could not even get into law school at U of I where tuition was quite reasonable for in-state students in that period, or DePaul, or U of Chicago, or Northwestern. So he did what a lot of young black men and women did- he went east to Howard U.

  261. Shorttermer

    I sent your “happy days” note about Terry McA off to a former HillStar who’s already part of a team working the last month + in VA for Terry.

    You’ll get to be known as the first person to come out publicly for McAuliff!

    I removed your moniker though.

  262. My source told me that Burris would not play ball with the Daley Machine, and they forced him out of Illionis politics for that reason. That may explain why he has not held public office since 1995, and his last position was State Attorney General. I still think we need more corroborating proof that he is Mr Clean, but on the stength of what I have seen and heard so far I am relatively optimistic.

  263. I sent your “happy days” note about Terry McA off to a former HillStar who’s already part of a team working the last month + in VA for Terry.
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    Terry is a great guy. Had a chance to see him and talk to him in West Virginia campaign. Mary Steemburgen and Ted Danza were there too. Very fine people. I would not say that about most celebrities. I hope Terry does well.

  264. thanks, Emjay…god only knows what carville ‘knows’…
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    S: it has got to be a minefield. The password is let him who hath not sinned cast the first stone. So they schlep it to big media who will not investigate it but publish it in garish headlines. Its a wonderful life. Right out of Frank Capra.

  265. Every time Terry steps up front and center, there are a handful of neocons and MSM mushmouths who bring up the old story about when Terry offered to loan Bill and Hill some extra down payment $$ for their house until such time as they had built up some more equity or until Bill’s book deal was finalized and they would pay him back.

    The accusations were false and as usual where the Clintons are concerned, they were also filthy and vile.

    They couldn’t even buy their own home in peace.

  266. We need to find an effective a way to blacklist the media sources and reporters who are on a vendetta against the clintons.

  267. wbboei

    My source told me that Burris would not play ball with the Daley Machine, and they forced him out of Illionis politics for that reason. That may explain why he has not held public office since 1995,—
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    that’s part of it…the rest of the story is that he ran for higher office a few more times, always getting beat, most times severely.

    The last time was when he ran against Blago for governor.

  268. that’s part of it…the rest of the story is that he ran for higher office a few more times, always getting beat, most times severely.
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    did they primary him or did he challenge an incumbent?

  269. Emjay, fine by me. In an email a photo of Terry and his family was included. He has a beautiful family. Virginia would be well served by Terry McAuliffe.

  270. Well, I remember one of his most famous primary races was lost to Paul Simon, who then beat the incumbent, Charles Percy, the Bell & Howell CEO (and Jay Rockefeller’s father-in-law). One of Chuck’s twin daughters was brutally murdered during his first campaign. ran for Guv in a 3-way primary the year Newt brought out his Contract for America. A lady reformer named Dawn won the primary but lost to a Rep- Jim Edgar in the general. Every Dem except some locals in IL lost that year- no kidding.

    The year the Daley machine tried to kill him politically was the year he ran against Big Daddy Daley for Mayor. I think that was the 1995 race.

    He ran for guv nomination during the 1998 Monica mess and four years later against Blago- that was the year that BHO endorsed him. Lost both of those primaries

  271. I just this minute got an email from Terry McAullife announcing his kickout for Governor of VA. He is only asking for as little as a $5 contribution. That is the least I could do. I sent him a nice congratulations and that he has 100% of my support.

    Go to:
    terrymcauliffe.com/home

  272. emjay,

    thanks for all this great info on burris! Do YOU know his family or was that a quote? Did BHO at one point endorse Burris?

    This is really puzzling. Blago drives everyone nuts by appointing someone HONEST? So Reid and all oppose the honest man?

  273. neetabug: I meant to say the “contemplated appointment of CK”. I have no idea where that stands now although I suspect that it has hit a snag in spite of the frantic pushing of CK’s supporters.

    wbb: my rebuttal is that you are willing to pass on CK or TK’s motives but cannot forgive their past transgressions. Until they supported BO, I don’t know what their transgressions were. I agreed with TK on almost every policy he fought for. And he did fight. I am infuriated at his endorsement of BO esp. since BO couldn’t have made it without it, but I don’t find it evil — I do see that it might be a part of their civil rights support which I applaud, even though it came at the expense of support for women. In short, I think it muddle-headed and dispiriting and maddening but not enough for me to heap calumny on the man whose voice cracked as he laid Bobby to rest or the man who was a guardian to 3 fatherless families while being an active and effective Senator.

    I believe that appointing CK would be wrong — and in contrast to most of Bobby’s children: Kathleen and Bobby Jr and others who have spent their lives in public service and consumer support and other good works. It’s too bad that Kathleen is from Mass. rather than NY — she would be ideal as a former lt. gov. — and a Hillary supporter.

  274. turndown

    Knew them slightly thru Dem fundraising-campaigns when I was much younger. He was just a constant in political life in IL. Othrs came and went, but like Bob Ray, R or Tom Harkin, D in Iowa, Burris has just always been there.

    Turndown, IL, MO, MN, NE, Dakotas are our neighboring states. Everyone knows everyone else’s business around here. In addition, IA is much closer to IL than IL is to IN.

    I graduated in IL, live now in IA, after a stint in OH, TDYs and several overseas locations.

  275. You idiot–how can you just make stuff up and impute the worst intentions to public officials. What evidence do you have??
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    Hear, hear! Dunno which idiot you mean, there are so many this applies to.

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