The Talented Mr. Obama

For Hillary Supporters this has been a disappointing year. We lost something very valuable. Because of that loss we have also gained something very valuable.

The loss is not what the Hopium addled chortle about. The loss is not about a candidate nor an election. The loss is of those we thought were like-minded, those we thought friends, those we lost respect for.

In short, we lost yet another bit of innocence. In short, we gained a firmer grasp of reality.

In an earlier generation, when a President was slaughtered in Dallas, a writer of the time said “We’ll never laugh again.” The writer was wrong of course. But after that Mannilicher-Carcano fired its deadly shots Americans never viewed their government in the same way again.

Americans later learned of Operation Mongoose, C.I.A. wet jobs, coups, Vietnam, Watergate, and their not-so-virginally-clean government.

For Hillary Supporters, election 2008 taught us about how ugly our Party, the Democratic Party, could be. The blinders came off, eyes opened wide – sometimes in disbelief – at the similarities between the ugliest Republicans and the “best” Democrats. Democrats we had supported through thick and thin, like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi, proved to be as adept at double dealing and vileness as the most rancid Republicans.

We also saw how some of our fellow Democrats could be led by the nose in the same way we used to laugh at “mindless” Republicans. There are a lot of lessons learned.

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For Hillary Supporters, the stink of a B.O. administration will not be a surprise.

We will not wake up having to apologize for the latest Obama blunder or the latest Obama flim-flam. We will nod our heads and acknowledge the reality of the great American blunder of 2008. We lost another bit of our innocence in 2008 but we are armed with reality in 2009.

The Hopium addled Obama supporters have a world of hurt coming to them.

Today pro-Obama hack Frank Rich glimpses into the future and sees the reality we began to write about in April 2007.

Frank Rich is one of those writers we used to admired Like many of our former brethren Frank Rich was someone we shared a great deal with. We laughed along with Frank as he skewered the Republicans and Bush.

In 2008 Frank Rich, and many of the writers we used to admire, became like those they hated – like those they once attacked. They were either silent as a great woman was attacked in the most sexist of ways or were complicit in those sexist and misogynistic assasinations.

As 2008 ends, Frank Rich begins to confront the ugly reality he has helped to create – just as much as Republican shills are responsible for the horror that is George W. Remember our warnings of Obama the flim-flam man who is the third Bush term as well as an anti-gay bigot? Today’s Frank Rich Bushwah:

But for the first time a faint tinge of Bush crept into my Obama reveries this month.

As we saw during primary season, our president-elect is not free of his own brand of hubris and arrogance, and sometimes it comes before a fall: “You’re likable enough, Hillary” was the prelude to his defeat in New Hampshire. He has hit this same note again by assigning the invocation at his inauguration to the Rev. Rick Warren, the Orange County, Calif., megachurch preacher who has likened committed gay relationships to incest, polygamy and “an older guy marrying a child.” Bestowing this honor on Warren was a conscious — and glib — decision by Obama to spend political capital. It was made with the certitude that a leader with a mandate can do no wrong. [snip]

Warren, whose ego is no less than Obama’s, likes to advertise his “commitment to model civility in America.” But as Rachel Maddow of MSNBC reminded her audience, “comparing gay relationships to child abuse” is a “strange model of civility.” Less strange but equally hard to take is Warren’s defensive insistence that some of his best friends are the gays: His boasts of having “eaten dinner in gay homes” and loving Melissa Etheridge records will not protect any gay families’ civil rights.

Equally lame is the argument mounted by an Obama spokeswoman, Linda Douglass, who talks of how Warren has fought for “people who have H.I.V./AIDS.” Shouldn’t that be the default position of any religious leader? Fighting AIDS is not a get-out-of-homophobia-free card. That Bush finally joined Bono in doing the right thing about AIDS in Africa does not mitigate the gay-baiting of his 2004 campaign, let alone his silence and utter inaction when the epidemic was killing Texans by the thousands, many of them gay men, during his term as governor.

Rich’s particular interests in gay issues forced him to speak out about the Warren invitation even as he still deludes himself about Obama the anti-gay bigot. Frank Rich for all his intelligence does not want to admit he has bamboozled and flim-flammed for Obama. Obama’s words do “not mitigate the gay bashing of his 20048 campaign”. Rich retreats to swips about the Obama ego instead of acknowledging that Obama’s pro-gay rights words are meant only in the service of flim-flamming white liberal ears. Rich (and Maddow and Etheridge) continues to bamboozle Americans by defending Obama and pretending Obama is anything but an anti-gay bigot.

Unlike Bush, Obama has been the vocal advocate of gay civil rights he claims to be. It is over the top to assert, as a gay writer at Time did, that the president-elect is “a very tolerant, very rational-sounding sort of bigot.” Much more to the point is the astute criticism leveled by the gay Democratic congressman Barney Frank, who, in dissenting from the Warren choice, said of Obama, “I think he overestimates his ability to get people to put aside fundamental differences.” That’s a polite way of describing the Obama cockiness. It will take more than the force of the new president’s personality and eloquence to turn our nation into the United States of America he and we all want it to be.

Again and again the Hopium addled live outside reality when they think that the great issues are a matter of personality. Americans are divided and many around the world hate America because of our interests and beliefs, not our personalities nor the personalities of our leaders.

Obama may not only overestimate his ability to bridge some of our fundamental differences but also underestimate how persistent some of those differences are. The exhilaration of his decisive election victory and the deserved applause that has greeted his mostly glitch-free transition can’t entirely mask the tensions underneath. Before there is profound social change, there is always high anxiety.

The success of Proposition 8 in California was a serious shock to gay Americans and to all the rest of us who believe that all marriages should be equal under the law. The roles played by African-Americans (who voted 70 percent in favor of Proposition 8 ) and by white Mormons (who were accused of bankrolling the anti-same-sex-marriage campaign) only added to the morning-after recriminations. And that was in blue California. In Arkansas, voters went so far as to approve a measure forbidding gay couples to adopt.

Frank Rich will eventually be forced to express the reality of Obama as we have so accurately described it. Andrew Sullivan and John Kerry sold Obama’s “black face” as the great hope. Opposition governments and terrorists HOPING for our demise will not be disuaded by a black face in the White House. Obama knows exactly what he is doing. Obama is anti-gay and his Warren invitation is not “too cute by half” it is purposeful policy-making.

Warren’s defamation of gay people illustrates why, as does our president-elect’s rationalization of it. When Obama defends Warren’s words by calling them an example of the “wide range of viewpoints” in a “diverse and noisy and opinionated” America, he is being too cute by half. He knows full well that a “viewpoint” defaming any minority group by linking it to sexual crimes like pedophilia is unacceptable.

It is even more toxic in a year when that group has been marginalized and stripped of its rights by ballot initiatives fomenting precisely such fears. “You’ve got to give them hope” was the refrain of the pioneering 1970s gay politician Harvey Milk, so stunningly brought back to life by Sean Penn on screen this winter. Milk reminds us that hope has to mean action, not just words.

By the historical standards of presidential hubris, Obama’s disingenuous defense of his tone-deaf invitation to Warren is nonetheless a relatively tiny infraction. It’s no Bay of Pigs. But it does add an asterisk to the joyous inaugural of our first black president. It’s bizarre that Obama, of all people, would allow himself to be on the wrong side of this history.

Rich proceeds to then attack the courageous Bill Clinton. Obama is a “sweet talking swindler”. Bill Clinton showed leadership on the issue of gay rights at a time when Americans were not so tolerant. As in his column today Frank Rich will use any opportunity to insult the Clintons and felate Obama.

It was not always thus.

Frank Rich is an astute observer. We cannot excuse him as a stupid man for the columns he writes. In the same way Obama’s actions cannot be excused as “bone-headed”. Obama’s actions too are purposeful, if dangerous and deceptive.

Before he was an Obama shill writing deceptive propaganda, before he wrote political columns, Frank Rich was the Drama Critic for the New York Times. He reviewed movies too. One film Frank Rich reviewed back in December 1999 was The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Frank Rich’s review, American Pseudo, demonstrates his intelligence as it is warped by his Clinton hate. Frank Rich really hates the Clintons and anyone he associates with them. Frank Rich will aid and abet any scam designed to attack the Clintons. In 1999 Frank Rich was reviewing a film and expressing his Bill Clinton hate. But we can now read that 1999 review as the American future. American Pseudo is soon to be the American President:

In this age of rampant reinvention when political candidates, entrepreneurs and criminals change selves like quicksilver ‘The Talented Mr. Ripley’ may be Hollywood’s most chilling and up-to-date portrait of our national character.

At this late date in the century — the century defined by the American success story — the two men considered most likely to succeed to the presidency are both running away from their pasts. One, brought up in a ritzy hotel by a Washington political family, has reinvented himself as a down-home Tennessean; the other, a political prince educated at Andover, Yale and Harvard, is now a man of the people in cowboy boots. The man whose job they covet, of course, is the former Bill Blythe, son of a traveling salesman and product of the disreputable gambling town of Hot Springs, Ark., who, via Georgetown, Oxford and Yale, long ago remade himself (for a while anyway) into the Man From Hope. [snip]

Our youth culture is dominated by hip-hop, which has become a means for white kids to reconfigure themselves as black. The god of adult commerce is Martha Stewart, who, like Ralph Lauren before her, instructs us all on how to be old-school white.

Frank Rich was reviewing a film but is there a better discription of Obama than 1999’s “outlaws come in the cameleon guises“? The Talented Mr. Obama:

It’s into this fluid turn-of-the-century America — when even outlaws come in the chameleon guises of Andrew Cunanan and Martin Frankel — that a new, nightmarish and highly apt movie called “The Talented Mr. Ripley” is being released just in time for the holidays. [snip]

With appropriate fin de siecle melancholy and the relentlessness of a thriller, “Ripley” nails both the wonder that has attended our century’s celebratory version of the American dream and the anxiety that is stirred up by that dream’s stealthy doppelganger, the American tragedy that befalls the Gatsbyesque dreamer who goes too far.

“Ripley” asks us to identify with an American man who, like so many before him, believes in the democratic ethos that says anyone can jettison the past, wipe the slate clean and with pluck and luck be whoever he or she wants to be. The earnest, upwardly mobile Tom Ripley, played by Damon, isn’t particularly greedy or ambitious, but he does want to rise above his drab circumstances to grab the right, socially acceptable lifestyle, along with love and money. By the time he takes a wrong turn in pursuit of his fantasy, we’re already along for the ride, rooting for his success and happiness as we might for our own, even if that means we become locked with our outlaw hero in a very dark and solitary place — even if, to our extreme discomfort, we find ourselves, in our secret heart of hearts, rooting for him to get away with murder.

Frank Rich rooted for Obama to get away with a political murder. The hero of the 1999 film bears an eerie resemblance to Rezko’s pal.

When we first meet its title character, he’s a pallid, immaculate young man, with Clark Kent glasses and the fastidious manners of a manservant or corporate accountant. [snip]

I always thought, Better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody,” Tom says, and no matter what the human cost, including the annihilation of his own self, he will not be denied. Clark Kent wills himself into Superman, but a Superman as ruthless as Macbeth. [snip]

Tom is the intelligent, poor and shy nerd who craves only to be part of the “in” crowd, and what American, from junior high school on, does not know that desperate feeling of wanting to mortgage one’s soul in order to fit in?

“Everybody’s not been invited to the dance at one time or another,” says Damon, who took on the gutsy and demanding assignment — for which he lost weight, studied piano and modulated his vocal pitch and posture — in part because of his identification with the character’s “total discomfort in his identity” and his compassion for the character’s “deep, intense loneliness.” [snip]

When Tom is mocked for his square corduroy sport jacket or his “bourgeois” taste in furnishings or his inability to ski — or is literally left to stand on the outside looking in through a window as Dickie and a condescending society pal or Dickie and Marge exchange intimacies he can never share — it’s hard not to feel the character’s panicked sense of exclusion and isolation, of envy and rejection, his aching hunger to be chosen, to be part of the club, to be wanted, to be loved.

The first time we had an extended look at Barack Obama was as he stood alone in the elegant side lobby, by the stairs, in the Four Seasons Hotel during the Boston 2004 Democratic convention. He stood, nerdishly alone, well apart from the Hollywood stars like Rob Reiner and the fabulously wealthy Democratic elite. He appeared desperate for a cigarette and attention.

The writer of Ripley, according to Rich, said about her character “He could be called psychotic,” “But I would not call him insane because his actions are rational. . . . I consider him a rather civilized person who kills when he absolutely has to.” If there’s “not much to be admired” about him, she added, he was also “not entirely to be censured.”

Obama has come a long way from that afternoon at the Four Seasons. He has displayed a remarkable talent for deceit.

Americans suffered much for their willful delusions in this and the last half of the past century. Our scam artists and scam writers turn American Pseudo into American Psycho.

It appears we Americans will suffer even more in the coming years. Hillary supporters will not be surprised however. We spotted Mr. Obama’s talent long ago.

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107 thoughts on “The Talented Mr. Obama

  1. Sorry Clintondem99, I disagree

    O is anti Gay, and anti women. He is pro O and African (which I think is racists). I don’t think he not for America; I think he if global, which will sell the US down the river at a moments, just like he did his minister. I think O will be a disaster.

  2. NewMexicoFan, I am with u. Obama has thrown gays under the bus. It is not that I like him but what choice do we have???

  3. clintondem99 Says:

    December 28th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
    It has been a very long time since I posted here. I predict Obama would turn out to be OK!

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    What makes you so sure?

    I agree with NewMexico Fan

  4. BTW, HillBuzz said he talked to a fundraiser in NY who says Paterson has no intention of naming CK to Hillary’s seat. I hope that’s true!

  5. dot48 Says:
    December 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm downstairs
    Our super resilient Hillary of course bounces back, takes a licking and keeps on ticking. She’ll be wonderful in her new post and she’ll work her ass off. Reports already that she is busting at the seams to get everything all in order and she’ll be the policy wonk that we know and love. Since Hill is part of his “team” now I know I should not be so negative .. but I can’t help it
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    dot and others,

    The way I’m looking at it is, BO is part of HER team. Of course that’s a guess and/or an oversimplification, as we don’t know what’s really going on in the halls of power. But I’d rather take that guess than the other.

    Fact is, a lot of old Clinton cabinet people were appointed. (I’d like to see a sort of scorecard as to which and how many and their history.) And Hillary as SOS, who seems to be really kicking ass up there (per UK papers she was firing BO people and bringing in hers before even officially invited, and now she sure is, making the State Dept more powerful and saying it’s going to get into world economics). People are calling it ‘Clinton Restoration.’

    That’s a fact and there has got to be some reason behind it. Either BO has suddenly seen the light or his strings are being pulled by someone else now. And who would that be except the Clintons?

    Also note that their ‘support’ and campaigning for BO slowly escalated. That would fit a theory of him offering more and more concessions, deals — which they are now collecting from him. Also, if he had planned to do Clinton Restoration and had said so, he’d have got more support from us and from centrists. So my very tentative theory is that the Clintons slowly got more and more control over him, and he’s now doing what they say at least somewhat.

    Maybe Hillary is the pig swallowing the lounge lizard?

  6. Thanks everyone for your help. I have tried all of the above advice with no luck. I already had created a second email account for this site when I had an earlier problem. I don’t want to open any more accounts….I can’t even remember them. I may just give up posting and continue to read only.

  7. Wonderful post, Admin..

    O is what he is… a high functioning shell of a man who has made so many promises, he can’t remember them all. All he knows is, he was destined for greatness. *cough*… I am encouraged by the fact he has hired so many of the former Clinton employees… because you know what? He is afraid. He is afraid of being ordered and pressured into doing things he doesn’t want to do by ZBig, Soros, the Kennedys… He understands he owes them Big Time..and all he is thinking is (very Nixonion) “I am the President!” and he is about to turn the tables on the whole samn bunch of them… because he can… He has the Clintons at his back… and lil’ ole’ Caroline may be singing ‘tears on my pillow’ IF he doesn’t succumb to her wishes of Hillary’s Senate seat. I read today how wonderful Carol Maloney is and she is the natural, right choice to carry on Hillary’s work.

    For the most part, I have dismissed ALL of the journalists as vangards of any kind with insight into what is going on. It will do us all a world of good to use our own eyes and ears to dissiminate raw information into directions, viewpoints and general knowledge and make up our own minds about what is going on and what we do next.

    Hillary supporters are unique in that they always know what comes next…

  8. The Darkling Thrush

    I leant upon a coppice gate When Frost was spectre-gray,
    And Winter’s dregs made desolate
    The weakening eye of day.
    The tangled bine-stems scored the sky
    Like strings of broken lyres,
    And all mankind that haunted nigh
    Had sought their household fires.

    The land’s sharp features seemed to be
    The Century’s corpse outleant,
    His crypt the cloudy canopy,
    The wind his death-lament.
    The ancient pulse of germ and birth
    Was shrunken hard and dry,
    And every spirit upon earth
    Seemed fervourless as I.

    At once a voice arose among
    The bleak twigs overhead
    In a full-hearted evensong
    Of joy illimited;
    An aged thrush, frail, gaunt, and small,
    In blast-beruffled plume,
    Had chosen thus to fling his soul
    Upon the growing gloom.

    So little cause for carolings
    Of such ecstatic sound
    Was written on terrestrial things
    Afar or nigh around,
    That I could think there trembled through
    His happy good-night air
    Some blessed Hope, whereof he knew
    And I was unaware.

  9. Excellent Admin!

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    clintondem99,

    Obama will borrow ideas and solutions from everyone and anyone and claim them as his own. He already has a crib sheet for anticipated problems which I doubt he contributed one word to.

    If being okay means it is honorable to lie and cheat your way through an election…If being okay means using reverse discrimination…If being okay means having ties to the most disreputable members of society…well then you are right. He will be okay.

  10. I have ignored most of the year end summaries by big media and the few that I have read are nothing more than revisionist history founded on lies and intended to either legitimatize his theft and/or cover up the ugly role they played to elect him. The salvation of our democracy requires that their business be destroyed through lawful means. At the same time the few good thinkers there are in big media must find a better gig so the truth they value as we do is not covered up by corrupt editors, but comes out into the open where it can empower the American People. It is damned hard to be an independent thinker and a truthgiver in that forum. It takes great courage. I know that because I was writing about the mistakes of Bush well before it was popular and I had been a republican and fairly substantial contributor to the RNC at one time. There were times when my words and commitment were questioned and friends admonished me dont do it. I did because I was outraged at Bush–whom I never voted for. In the end it was not as big a deal as I thought it was at the time-but I do know what the put in the stomach feels like. It is not easy to buck club. However, sometimes you have to if you want to look yourself in the mirror when you shave. Most of our big media whores are incapable of that which is why the business itself must be lawfully destroyed. It has become enemy of democracy run by sycophants.

  11. Clintondem99

    My thoughts on HRC being SOS. I think once you have run for the Presidency, and having been successful (she won), I not only think it is difficult going back to the Senate, I think it might be boring. What could you possible do as one member of the Senate. However, as SOS she will have high visibility, and her voice would be heard internationally. She can also be presenting women in a significant leadership role.

    Personnelly I feel that working for O miight be her greatest challenge. However, her accomplishment will be highly visible and attributable to her. She obivously is a better person than I am.

    Is it the exact right move? Only time will tell. I Pray For Her and Our Nation that it is the right move. O is as superfiscial as Bush, and I think we are finding that out, and will continue to find that out. So I am hopping, seeing her in that leadership performing in her outstanding manner, the voters will say, WE COULD HAD HAD HRC. THE NEXT TIME WE WILL NOT BE DENIED.

  12. But the more ominious conclusion is this> the American People lack the critical thinking skills to select the best candidate for the job. There is a rational process to this but it seems to elude them especially when the propaganda goes the other way. They are conditioned by American Idol.

    So well said.

  13. clintondem99

    you thought he would be ok bo….A Liar and a thug who steals ideas like infrastracture to build and think it is his own idea ..LIE..LIE..
    Hillary said it first and her Ideas have been stolen from BO who is not smart and is also involved in Illinois House Deals for his own Political Hopes..and lets people freeze..His Change is POCKET Change until someone else wins in 2012 for President …

  14. Clintondem99: as I see it a Chicago thug who has a proven track record of selling out his constituents for big money interests has cheated his way to the nomination through bribery, blackmail, racism, sexism, homophobia, self promotion, big media corruption and dnc Judases, disenfranchisement of voters, caucus thuggery and the politics of personal destruction and you say:”I predict Obama would turn out to be OK!”

    Please define the meaning of ok. I know what it means in english. But I am not sure what it means in bot lingo.

  15. wbboei …

    All of what you said it True. You have the satisfaction of knowing you were right all along. You fought the good fight and ended up on the right side rather than a pretender that went along with the crowd and made a damn mess of the country because Armageddon was going to be here anyhow.! Remember when someone asked Bush about his legacy? His response was we’ll all be dead anyway! Well now the poor SOB has to look at a white elephant of a presidential library with one book on the shelf and walls filled with photographs of War, 9/11 and Death as his legacy!

    Bill and Hill are still here. They are they only ones that really care about people. We’ll be fine. We’ve learned plenty along the way this trip.

  16. The loss is not what the Hopium addled chortle about. The loss is not about a candidate nor an election. The loss is of those we thought were like-minded, those we thought friends, those we lost respect for.

    It would have been easier if I had fallen into the Obama trap, but easier has never been for me. I just don’t follow well, I always have to stop and think for myself. And now I do fell the loss of friends and like minded people and the party I belonged to for the last 28 years and it’s been hard.

    I have learned some hard lessons in all of this and I’m going to be alright, I know I’m not alone in how I fell.

  17. I agree with what wobbie said at December 28th, 2008 at 10:59 pm. Well said.

    One lesson I learned is that an individual must not be hogtied to a party, any party. The two major parties have both stolen elections/primaries and commited major crimes against humanity in our own country and abroad. The only future hope for our country, should we be whole at the end of the Hucksters rule, is for each individual to support the person, not the party. That is the only way to support the country and maybe make it whole again.

    The Huckster is NOT ok.

  18. The way I’m looking at it is, BO is part of HER team. Of course that’s a guess and/or an oversimplification, as we don’t know what’s really going on in the halls of power. But I’d rather take that guess than the other.
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    This nomination will be a first alright. The first time we will elect someone who has never governed before in his like and never run so much as a hotdog stand. It lends credence to the idea that anyone can be president as long as the all powerful and forever wrong big media is behing them. This is strike 3 for big media but who is counting. Bush 2000 wrong, Iraq 2003 wrong, Bush 2004 wrong, Bambi 2008 wrong. As Warren Buffet would say we would be better off training a chimpanzee to flip coins–he would be right 500 of the time, whereas big media’s batting averag is zero. This dismal performance after all the adversting dolllars, all the big salaries, all the bounses, all the graphs charts and weejie boards, and all the self congratulatory crap its still zero nada nyet nein nothing will come fo nothing. That is big media for you–seldom right but never in doubt. It is the fucking biggest joke there is, really except the joke on us if we listen to them.

  19. Alerts from pumaresponders.blogspot.com

    Yes folks, this vocal, rambunctious New Yorker has a PUMA prowl and a websitebehind her to show the NY Governor that none other than a former rabid Clinton supporter should have the seat that Hillary is vacating in January. If you don’t remember Harriet “Obama is an ‘inadequate black male’”
    h* t t p : / / news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/28/forget-caroline-harriet-for-ny-senator/
    Comment box at the bottom. Wants some kind of registration but no password?

    The following are links at NY Daily and at h* t t p : / / pumaresponders.blogspot.com

    The mind of Caroline Kennedy
    Pols give Caroline hard time
    Bloomberg defends Caroline Kennedy
    Gonzalez: Remember, Gov, it’s up to you
    Caroline seeks Senate seat support from labor leaders
    Bring on Caroline – I can beat her, says Pete King
    If this is all it takes to merit a Senate seat, Gov. Paterson might as well host a reality television show in picking Hillary Clinton’s successor. At the very least, this would bring in advertising revenue – and therefore much more than Caroline Kennedy has offered New Yorkers thus far.
    h* t t p : / / http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/23/2008-12-23_caroline_kennedy_gives_inadequate_answer.html
    Comment box half way down the page. My name was already on it from prevuos alerts. Post went right up.

    h* t t p : / / http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/28/2008-12-28_say_goodnight_caroline_how_jfks_daughter.html
    Comment box half way down the page. My name was already on it from prevuos alerts. Post went right up.

    h* t t p : / / http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/27/2008-12-27_caroline_kennedy_tells_daily_news_i_woul.html#community
    Comment box half way down the page. My name was already on it from prevuos alerts. Post went right up.

  20. carolsaxbuda …try the internet tools in your browser and delete all saved web forms and pages with passwords that you have visted…it might work..

  21. good morning Hillfans. Up drinking my java juice and planning my day. I’m sorta giddy after reading some news reports over the weekend that FlimFlam is shewing away reporters and skipping out on them. Wonder when they gonna learn that he used them and got what he wanted…he won’t need them again till it suits him.

  22. The Voters did choose Hillary in the primariies and in the exit polls of the GE. However, the voters have not gotten mad enough to do anything about how this Democracy treats their opinions.

  23. lisaque Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 12:19 am

    “The loss is not what the Hopium addled chortle about. The loss is not about a candidate nor an election. The loss is of those we thought were like-minded, those we thought friends, those we lost respect for.”
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    very true!

  24. The Voters did choose Hillary in the primariies and in the exit polls of the GE. However, the voters have not gotten mad enough to do anything about how this Democracy treats their opinions.
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    Absolutely right. We must never forget that. And that is best evidence of just how undemocratic this system is and how this really is a silent war between the elites and the American People. Also, we must never forget how this election was stolen from the American People or how the elites are now attempting at yearend to create revisionist history to make him look like St. Christoper rather than Satan and themselves look like credible journalists rather than Goebbles. That is why it is so important to remember it as it really was because the time may come when the details of his conspiracy will be important if only to the foreign press and to help bury big media. As a family who owned one of our great newspapers told me a few month back people need information, they need it to be accurate information and nobody trusts a liar–nobody with any common sense at least.

  25. Bring on Caroline – I can beat her, says Pete King
    If this is all it takes to merit a Senate seat, Gov. Paterson might as well host a reality television show in picking Hillary Clinton’s successor. At the very least, this would bring in advertising revenue – and therefore much more than Caroline Kennedy has offered New Yorkers thus far.
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    I believe this is true. It is what I have been saying all along. It could well be a tipping point since it will coincide with mid term election. But the predicate is the Republican Party must learn how to fight this new kind of warfare. One story from a former bot who spills the beans on the Obamawhores would be all it would take. Also, they need to steer clear of anyone who had anything to do with the McCain campaign. They know how to lose campaigns but not how to win them. This is not rocket science. Axelrod is very beatable. You have just got to fight him scorcherd earth and be dirtier than he is. They have people who can do this. They need to turn them loose on Bambi and big media. The voters would cheer them on once the hopium wears off.

  26. A question for the hopium addled: I know you are madly in love with bambi. He promised change. But he never said what it was.

    He has stolen alot of Hillarys ideas. He will implement some of them. And they will cost alot of money. The cost will be born by the middle class not the elites. The middle class will be his cash cow. Guaranteed.

    Suppose he does not bring the troops home, suppose he is overwhelmed by our economic problems, suppose unemployment is double, suppose he betrays you and suppose a loaf of bread costs $10.

    Will you still blame Bush or will you have the courage to admit he aint the Messiah. In essence can you face the fact that you could be wrong. And what will you do then?

  27. I spoke to a friend last night who went to the new movie on Von Stauffenberg who made the failed attempt to kill Hitler with a bomb at the wolfs lair. He tells me that it was great to watch the contrast between celebrity actor Tom Kruse (Cruise) who pretends to be Stauffenberg and solid supporting European actors who acutally know what they are doing. In fact, the attempt failed and the plotters where hung with piano wire or something. But my friend said jokingly there is no problem that cannot be solved with dynamite and in the realm of politics it can come in the form of some unanticipated revealation which shows the game for what it is, and the liars for what they really are. Watergate is merely one example. But you must have people who are willing to fight and people who want to know the truth and even under the most optimistic scenario we are not there—yet.

  28. He tells me that it was great to watch the contrast between celebrity actor Tom Kruse (Cruise) who pretends to be Stauffenberg and solid supporting European actors who acutally know what they are doing. In fact, the attempt failed and the plotters where hung with piano wire or something.
    ***********
    Your friend has a stronger stomach than I, watching Tom “act” is painful. IIRC, I think it was meat hooks.

  29. I believe the plotters were shot. History Channel had a special last night dealing with the Valkyrie incident. It was very interesting, and was something that is little known about WWII.

  30. On a positive note, Caroline Kennedy is showing just how inept she would be as a senator. Hillary must be laughing her ass off. Obama is “having a black out” in Hawaii while the world again faces crisis, both economically and militarily. Hillary would have been ready from day one; not a deer looking in the head lights like Bambi!!!!

  31. I didn’t mind Tom Cruise in that movie. I find that most famous actors trying to portray historic characters are hard to imagine. The film itself was well done. I agree that the supporting cast was excellent. My only wish was that they might have explored in greater depth how Stauffenberg came to turn his back on Hitler. I found the first part was rushed too much.

  32. Well the time is nearly upon us Jan 20th 09 and what did we get?
    A lot more problems and deeper in debt plus

    1- A Stealth president

    2- A den of thieves for a senate

    3- A world on fire

    4- Bananas anyone?

    By ABM90

    Hillary won and our country lost its integrity for fairness

  33. Reading bacwards as usual….

    On the Hitler plot, there is material that seems well researched (or handed down) in a recent novel called irc IRISH LINEN. It’s by a real Catholic cleric and centers on present day Chicago (woops….).

  34. wbboei said: Axelrod is very beatable. You have just got to fight him scorcherd earth and be dirtier than he is. They have people who can do this. They need to turn them loose on Bambi and big media. The voters would cheer them on once the hopium wears off.
    ======================

    Deval Patrick might be a test case for this.
    (If I’ve got the name right — the Axelrod property hopey changey who wanted the gold licence plate holder, if that’s true.)

  35. JanH Says:

    December 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
    The fact that admin has kept this site as “Hillary is 44″…says it all for me. He/She/They alone recognize the true leader here, the rightful heir to the throne as well as the puppet king who has already damaged democracy as we once knew it.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I thought it was because of the registration fee… “Shoot, can we raise $24.99 (or whatever) so we can change it to….

    Contest for New Name

    a) leave well enough alone: hillaryis44.org is a snapshot of time, and says it best
    b) hillaryis45.org
    c) hillaryis44’s_SoS.mil
    d) obama_is_OK_with_us_now.biz (mini-vomit)
    e) politix_sux.edu
    f) impeach_obama.org
    g) angry_clintonistas_not-gettin-over-it.com
    h) harrrumph.com
    i) obama_ombudsman.org

  36. a) leave well enough alone: hillaryis44.org is a snapshot of time, and says it best
    =============

    Damn right. Why add confusion? This name holds the details of our memories.

  37. thanks admin….I really enjoy reading your articles.

    rgb44hrc Says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    I say don’t change the name unless you make it Hillary is 66…the 66th SOS

    frankly I see that position as priceless for her. She is a international leader and she teams with Bill to make the First World Couple

    MO and BO could never and will never hold that mantle

    BO has a free ride for awhile things are so bad economically that any small improvement will be hailed by the Hopium crowd as a ..see we told ya he was the right choice..spit in the face. Problem with that logic though is that anyone could have done the same.)

    The next group under the bus is the unions. From what I hear the employee free choice act will not make it to the desk to be signed. Wow must suck for the unions who spent $450 million on the election. Too bad, we need a way to stop the bad employers from treating their employees like caca and to stop the intimindation and firing of those that want a union.

  38. An afternoon chuckle-break for Big Pink:

    h t t p : / /

    beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/the_more_you_know_caroline_kennedy/

  39. On a positive note, Caroline Kennedy is showing just how inept she would be as a senator. Hillary must be laughing her ass off. Obama is “having a black out” in Hawaii while the world again faces crisis, both economically and militarily. Hillary would have been ready from day one; not a deer looking in the head lights like Bambi!!!!
    ————————————–
    Leave me alone and let me eat my waffles . . . in this 9 million dollar condominum by the sea . . . that someone loaned to me for $1 and other valuable (hidden) consideration . . . while MO and I worry ourselves sick over the plight of the less fortunate. . . what do the simple folk do to help them escape when theyre blue . . . who the fuck cares . . . Apres moi le deluge. . . hey Meesh. . . should send a post card to uncle tony?

  40. Toward the end of Frank Rich’s piece that admin linked to and quoted from, is the Bill Clinton swipe, and the stuff leading up to it. My snarky commentaries are preceded by $$$’s.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    By the historical standards of presidential hubris, Obama’s disingenuous defense of his tone-deaf invitation to Warren is nonetheless a relatively tiny infraction. It’s no Bay of Pigs.

    $$$ Nice bit of excuse making. If Frank Rich hasn’t noticed, Obama is not yet president. He can only f*ck up so much. BTW, notice that Obama is already giving radio addresses? Does he have his own Pre-Oval Office too?

    But it does add an asterisk to the joyous inaugural of our first black president. It’s bizarre that Obama, of all people, would allow himself to be on the wrong side of this history.

    $$$ Hopium smokers slowly starting to come to after the big celebration, and realizing that their wallets are still in their pockets but the large bills, the credit cards, and driver licenses have been lifted.

    Since he’s not about to rescind the invitation, what happens next? For perspective, I asked Timothy McCarthy, a historian who teaches at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and an unabashed Obama enthusiast who served on his campaign’s National Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Leadership Council. He responded via e-mail on Christmas Eve.

    After noting that Warren’s role at the inauguration is, in the end, symbolic, McCarthy concluded that “it’s now time to move from symbol to substance.” This means Warren should “recant his previous statements about gays and lesbians, and start acting like a Christian.”

    $$$ So everyone else has to make adjustments, so that Obama looks good? Hey, McCarthy, why don’t you ask Obama to do something substantive??

    McCarthy added that it’s also time “for President-elect Obama to start acting on the promises he made to the LGBT community during his campaign so that he doesn’t go down in history as another Bill Clinton, a sweet-talking swindler who would throw us under the bus for the sake of political expediency.”

    $$$ Bill Clinton was portrayed as a swindler, by the rabid right and the rabid left. He worked the center. Duh. Now, as for your “sweet-talking swindlers”….Bill worked long and hard, and was a policy wonk. Obama is a sweet-talking swindler who never did a hard day’s work in his life. But if that’s too unpleasant for you all Hopium smokers to handle, just go back into the den and light it up again. And repeat the mantra: “Hope. Change. Obama. Hope. Change. Obama”. Wow. Groooovy.

    And “for LGBT folks to choose their battles wisely, to judge Obama on the content of his policy-making, not on the character of his ministers.”

    $$$ In other words, they backed somebody that will repeatedly stab them in the back, but they are too chicken shit to admit they made a huge mistake, and elected an anti-LGBT, simply because of the color of his skin, and not because of the content of his character. They invented the “content of his character”, colored in the missing pieces, until they were happy voting for Obama. So now they will dumb it down, play “small ball”, be content that Obama passes some little symbolic thing, but doesn’t act more substantially different than W. They’ll ignore that he’s ignoring them, taking them for granted, running for re-election in 2012 by trying to appeal to everyone across the spectrum, just as he did in 2008.

  41. MEMORANDUM

    TO: PRINCESS CAROLINE
    FR: UPSTATE NEW YORK
    RE: AND SO IT GOES

    The more I see you, the more I want you
    Somehow this feeling just grows and grows
    With every sigh I become more mad about you
    More lost without you and so it goes

  42. Drudge has a link to a video of Caroline K saying her “you knows” and a buzzer sound every time she utters them…honestly, if you actually listen to the audio, it’s not that annoying…

    but of course, no one made fun of the Obama “uh, uh, uh, uh’s” in the way they’re doing with Caroline’s speech…because of course, that would be racist or maybe discriminatory towards men which is absolute no-no.

    I don’t think Caroline’s right for the seat, but the immediate forces (media, etc) that descend to put women under microscopes if they do anything public and to criticize in ways they would never do with men is obnoxious.

  43. I just think that maintaining “Hillary is 44”, is a wonderful slap in the face for all those idiotic bots who are delusional enough to think that their robot one fair and square.

  44. CTV

    I posted the “ya know” video about a half hour ago and posted an “uh, uh, uh” Bambi video about 9 months ago on these pages…as fissures were beginning to appear between camps on these pages.

  45. Emjay Says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    I posted the “ya know” video about a half hour ago and posted an “uh, uh, uh” Bambi video about 9 months ago on these pages…as fissures were beginning to appear between camps on these pages.
    &&&&

    Is this the same Obama, considered the greatest orator since the Lincoln-Douglas debates, exactly 150 years ago.

    Man, this country is going down the tubes.

  46. CountTheVotes Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    Drudge has a link to a video of Caroline K saying her “you knows”
    **************************
    I agree that CK should not have Hillary’s Senate seat…but the ‘put downs’ and ridicule are way over the top…IMO…never do we see men diminished this way. Maybe we’re over compensating for the inexperienced boob getting the job…but does she have to be destroyed in the process? i don’t think she’s a BAD person, just misguided.

  47. What is amazing, CK and BO are graduates of Ivy League schools, and they cannot speak coherently, unless it is written before hand. Obviously, they have not spoken in a court of law.

  48. Yes but I bet ck credits her children for adding the “oks” to her vocabulary and who knows what else. After all, they did make her choice for her when it came to endorsing the “idiot with strings.”

  49. birdgal Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    What is amazing, CK and BO are graduates of Ivy League schools, and they cannot speak coherently, unless it is written before hand. Obviously, they have not spoken in a court of law.
    &&&&&&&

    Can we now call this a “doophus-ocracy”??

    “I’m sorry, you’re too qualified, too intelligent, too well-spoken, to be in the (House/Senate/White House). Please reapply after some tragic brain injury, or you have some inside connection to a filthy rich power broker.”

  50. There goes that Bill Clinton fella, showing off again, that he was right.
    WWBD – What Would Bill Do

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081229/ap_on_re_us/black_homicides

    Study: Murders among black youths on the rise
    By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes,
    Associated Press Writer – Mon Dec 29, 7:14 am ET

    WASHINGTON – The number of young black men and teenagers who either killed or were killed in shootings has risen at an alarming rate since 2000, a new study shows.

    The study, to be released Monday by criminologists at Northeastern University in Boston, comes as FBI data is showing that murders have leveled off nationwide.

    Not so for black teens, the youngest of whom saw dramatic increases in shooting deaths, the Northeastern report concluded.

    Last year, for example, 426 black males between the ages of 14 and 17 were killed in gun crimes, the study shows. That marked a 40 percent increase from 2000.

    Similarly, an estimated 964 in the same age group committed fatal shootings in 2007 — a 38 percent increase from seven years earlier. The number of offenders is estimated because not all crimes are reported, said Northeastern criminologist James Alan Fox, who co-authored the study.

    “Although the overall rate of homicide in the United States remains relatively low, the landscape is quite different for countless Americans living, and some dying, in violence-infested neighborhoods,” Fox said.

    Seizing on President-elect Barack Obama’s incoming administration as an opportunity for more funding, Fox added: “There is an urgency for reinvestment in children and families. In essence, we need a bailout for kids at risk.”

    Obama will be the nation’s first black president.

    The study partly blamed Bush administration grant cuts to local police and juvenile crime prevention programs for the surge in crimes by young black men and teens. Incoming Vice President Joe Biden has promised funding to put 50,000 new police officers on the street to help bring violent crime rates back to a decade-long annual decline that began in the mid-1990s, after then-President Bill Clinton provided local officials with money to hire 100,000 new cops.
    [snip]
    &&&&&&

    Bill and Hillary were committed to putting government to work to build the country, and right what was wrong. It wasn’t always easy, and there were plenty of compromises that had to be made. But generally, his approach to getting re-elected in 1996 was to govern from the center and make substantive progress. Yes, there was plenty of symbolism, but the symbolism promoted the substance.

    I have no such hopes for Obama. It will be more of what we saw on the campaign trail. Style over substance. Promises. Lies. Excuses. Ineptitude. The guy barely improved over the 20 some debates, because he doesn’t understand how government works. He skimmed over the Cliff Notes version, and didn’t even complete that. He’ll outsource the heavy lifting to others: if they fail, under the bus. If they succeed, he swoop in and grab the trophy.

    Just like W’s administration: Inept, corrupt, lots of empty, feel-good symbolism. And speeches smothered in heavy flavors but lacking in nutrition.

    And just like W, where we could see Disaster from a mile away, I’m afraid Obama’s past gives us little hope.

    clintondem99 Says:
    December 28th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
    I predict Obama would turn out to be OK!

    &&&&&&&
    Sorry, clintondem, we DON’T expect this to be “OK”.

    In case you haven’t noticed, the World continue to be an evolving hot bed (see mid-East tensions rising), and the markets are sucky for into the god-knows-when future.

    Obama is the “Brave Leader” to lead us out of these problems???

    No way, Jose!

  51. TEAM WORK IS ABOUT TRUST — AND **THAT** IS WHERE OBAMA WILL FAIL AS A LEADER

    In my previous post, I wrote:

    He’ll outsource the heavy lifting to others: if they fail, under the bus.
    If they succeed, he swoop in and grab the trophy.

    &&&&&

    Teams that win play selflessly. Teams that fail are comprised of a bunch of individuals pitted against one another, each trying to avoid being a scape goat.

    As much as we feel Hillary is an outstanding individual, and would make a great SoS under any administration, Rep or Dem, this particular administration is likely to emulate the Bush Administration in the fingerpointing. Remember the underqualified Brownie being the fall guy? Remember all the people leaving writing tell-all books?

    Ya think people aren’t going into this and saying, “How long do I have to stay, and what will my book be about?”.

  52. Is Oprah gullible or just dumb?

    Another of her “chosen” non-fiction book choices has turned out to be fiction.

    It is about the romance between two young people who met in a concentration camp, met again at Coney Island (?) and now live in FL.

    Like some of Obama’s early life and family background, lies

  53. CHICAGO (AP) – U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald wants lawmakers to hear what Gov. Rod Blagojevich said on wiretapped phone calls. Fitzgerald filed paperwork Monday to release conversations caught on wiretaps to the Illinois House panel considering impeachment proceedings. Federal prosecutors have asked a judge for permission to disclose a limited number of the intercepted conversations in a redacted form.

    Fitzgerald says disclosing four calls wouldn’t interfere with the ongoing criminal investigation.

    Blagojevich was arrested Dec. 9 on federal corruption charges. The governor is accused of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s vacant U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, but he has denied any wrongdoing.

  54. NQ post about probably voter fraud:

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/29/possible-voter-fraud/

    So, many of us have been writing, saying, talking about, the rampant voter registration fraud, and voter fraud that marred this election. It seems it may have occurred here, too:

    &&&
    As Charleston County’s Board of Elections and Voter Registration recently discussed the Nov. 4 election, board member June Smith noted the heavy turnout of college voters and observed, “They could just as easily have voted here and voted absentee in their own state.”

    She’s right, election officials say, but it’s unclear how many, if any, did vote twice. As states begin analyzing what changes would improve the voting process the next time around, they will decide if such duplicate voting is worthy of their attention.
    (Previous Story: Registration rate for ages 18-24 double that of other age groups in S.C., published 10/12/08)
    &&&

    [snip]

    go, read the rest.

  55. The first link points to this url:

    http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/dec/26/is_double_voting_problem66251/

    Is double voting a problem?
    No one’s sure, but officials might try to find out

    By Robert Behre (Contact)
    The Post and Courier
    Friday, December 26, 2008

    [snip]
    As states begin analyzing what changes would improve the voting process the next time around, they will decide if such duplicate voting is worthy of their attention.

    Election Commission public information officer Chris Whitmire said he hasn’t seen any recent analysis about duplicate voting, but two years ago, the state compared its voter registration rolls with those of Kentucky and Tennessee. It discovered about 14,000 South Carolina voters also were registered in one of those two states.

    Of those, the state struck 5,659 from its rolls because their other registration appeared to be more current. It also sent a letter to them, and a handful wrote back that they needed to remain registered here, Whitmire said.

    Kentucky later examined voter turnouts and discovered no one had voted there and in another state, according to Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson’s office.

    “Just because we have not seen this type of fraud in previous elections does not mean we should rest on our laurels,” Grayson said at the time. “We will be looking for other voter fraud prevention techniques, as well as other states with which we can compare data.”

    This week, Grayson said Kentucky would continue to compare its most recent list of voters with lists from neighboring states, particularly the presidential battleground states of Ohio and Indiana.

    Grayson said he became interested in the duplicate voting issue a few years ago after his parents offhandedly suggested that they could vote for him. This was after they moved from Kentucky to South Carolina.

    “I said, ‘Wait a minute. You’re a South Carolina resident. You can’t vote for me. It would look really bad,'” he said. “I saw that they could have, if they wanted to, voted and probably would have gotten away with it.”

    Even though Kentucky didn’t find any case of duplicate voting, Grayson said it’s still a good idea to check with other states because dead weight on the voting rolls creates a potential for fraud and because both campaigns and states want the lists as accurate as possible.

    That no duplicate voting was uncovered is not necessarily surprising.

    A national 2007 study of election fraud done by the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law concluded that double voting is rare.

    “The scarcity (of double voting) is expected, given the severity of the penalty (criminal prosecution) and the meager nature of the payoff (one incremental vote),” its report, titled “The Truth About Voter Fraud,” said.

    Grayson said some in Congress are asking if the federal government should help out.

    “Some people are asking the question should we go to a national system?” he said. “We’re probably in the ‘Is there a problem stage?’ and it may be that there’s not a solution to this.”

    Whitmire said South Carolina has considered joining with Georgia and North Carolina to compare registration lists and voter turnout, but the idea never got beyond the discussion stage.

    In Georgia’s case, attorneys advised the state not to participate because of a pending lawsuit involving Social Security numbers.

    “The voter registration system is not Fort Knox,” Whitmire said. “Someone who wants to commit voter fraud could probably do it.”

    “Some people may feel in their mind they should be allowed to vote in more than one place,” he added. “If there is a risk for being caught and prosecuted for that crime, you would weigh that against casting one vote in another state for president. Is it worth the risk? I would say no. I hope most people would think the same way.”

    Reach Robert Behre at 937-5771 or at rbehre@postandcourier.com.

  56. Emjay Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
    Is Oprah gullible or just dumb?
    Another of her “chosen” non-fiction book choices has turned out to be fiction.
    &&&&&&

    Or is she shrewd? You know, like that guy she endorsed for president.

    They know the story is false.
    But there’s too much fame and riches to be gained to be bothered by the truth.
    You make your money, you split the scene of the crime, and when you are caught later, you just say:

    “Ooops a daisy, heavens to Betsy, I had no idea that there were these unscrupulous people just waiting to make a fool out of little ole me”.

    The newspapers do that too. NYTimes comes out with “McCain found in bed with Bigfoot”, then the retraction the next day is buried on page 89 by the crossword puzzle.

  57. I agree that CK should not have Hillary’s Senate seat…but the ‘put downs’ and ridicule are way over the top…IMO…never do we see men diminished this way. Maybe we’re over compensating for the inexperienced boob getting the job…but does she have to be destroyed in the process? i don’t think she’s a BAD person, just misguided.
    ————————————
    Big media has redefined the rules of engagement and turnabout is fair play. But if you take it too far it can generate sympathy–even for a 100 million dollar heiress who thinks the world owes her a senate seat. That would be unforgiveable. I would be cautious here for tactical reasons.

  58. jeleanoro Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    CountTheVotes Says:

    December 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    Drudge has a link to a video of Caroline K saying her “you knows”
    **************************
    I agree that CK should not have Hillary’s Senate seat…but the ‘put downs’ and ridicule are way over the top…IMO…never do we see men diminished this way. Maybe we’re over compensating for the inexperienced boob getting the job…but does she have to be destroyed in the process? i don’t think she’s a BAD person, just misguided.

    ———————————————————————————————–

    I don’t think she is a “bad” person, just misguided by her Uncle Ted. Plus, it reeks of entitlement and nepotism.

  59. CK has committed no Crime. She is stimply not qualified, nor does she know the political process. But then this also applies to O, and others who all of a sudden decide to run for office. The Political world today does not believe in qualificatios for the job.

    They simply want to know what you will give them for makinjg sure you win. That is called a bribe; however, that does not apply to the Primaries (we learned that first hand).

  60. change the name of this site??? NEVER. Hillary is in all rights 44. Just another robbed so a man can jack off in the top spot. Happens every day.

  61. IMHO CK is as good as a done deal for paterson is awash in the kool-aid. They can stop reporting on it now, it just makes her look even more foolish.

    Our H-I-L-LA-R-Y to the rescue!!!!!!! The Huckster is not even on the throne yet and my, oh, my is he EVER going to need her!!! Our Hero and Heroine, the Clintons, may both be required to [help him] handle the Israeli and Gaza stip current events.

    Comedians are sometimes more accurate on their fake news programs than the MSM. John Stewart got it right when he said Bush, …only got it wrong by ONE letter!” [IraQ/IraN]

  62. IMHO CK is as good as a done deal for paterson is awash in the kool-aid. They can stop reporting on it now, it just makes her look even more foolish
    —————————————–
    Au contraire. I do not think it will happen. Patterson has got to worry about the budget and his own election. If he appoints her he alienates his won party, may lose steam on the budget, may lose the seat to Peter King, and will most definitely lose his own election to Cuomo. Alongside that what dying Ted and deader than a doornail big media are telling him he must do are not terribly important. But you would never know it from the lies big media is telling. You would think it is a shoe in. Seldom right but never in doubt our beloved big media. The same people who gave us Bush (2X), Iraq and now this joker.

  63. I’m thinking that ck needs to borrow Obamalite’s teleprompter ASAP! It’s only fair that he share his communication’s crutch with his comrade.

  64. I love the title Hillaryis44. I say keep it.

    However, if we ever have to change it my second choice would be ABM’s sign-off: We Could Have Had Hillary.

  65. GOV GETS TESTY OVER ‘SEN. CAROLINE’ GRILL
    Comments: 18Read Comments Leave a Comment

    By PETER HOLLY and SALLY GOLDENBERG
    Click to enlarge
    Last updated: 4:47 am
    December 25, 2008
    Posted: 3:35 am
    December 25, 2008

    Gov. Paterson yesterday tamped down suggestions that Caroline Kennedy is at the top of the list to replace Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, asking, “How is she a front-runner?”

    The comment came as Paterson was arriving back from a trip to Iraq to visit the troops with Reps. Anthony Weiner and Steve Israel at La Guardia Airport. The governor was hit with a crush of questions about the Camelot scion’s push to replace Clinton, who will be nominated to become secretary of state.

    He bristled when a reporter described Kennedy – who has never been elected to office and whose qualifications have been criticized – as the “front-runner.”

    “How is she a front-runner?” the Democratic governor, who has sole power to choose Clinton’s successor, interrupted tartly.

    The remark came as some Paterson advisers have questioned the rollout of Kennedy’s candidacy over the past week, even as Mayor Bloomberg – who several sources say is boosting her behind the scenes – publicly urged the governor to speed up his selection process.

    Paterson said he was amused by news accounts during his Iraq trip that quoted various “sources” and “friends.”

    “This whole thing sounds more like the prelude to a high school musical than the choosing of a senator.”

    He faulted the media for the intense speculation and interest, adding, “You can’t kill your parents and then ask the governor to do something about that fact that you’re an orphan. The speculation and the discussion of this has been, I think, a little superfluous, but it’s everybody’s right.”

    In regard to Israel, a Long Island congressman who has let his interest in the seat be known, Paterson said the lawmaker is “highly qualified,” but insisted his goal was not to talk to him about state politics during the trip.

    And he added he has no plans to change his current course, which is to wait until Clinton is confirmed for the job.

    But Bloomberg showed no signs of letting up.

    “I do think the governor, as I said the other day, should make a decision, because this is just distracting and we don’t need to have another sideshow,” he said yesterday.

    The mayor also brushed off Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver’s criticism that Kennedy may be more beholden to her booster, Bloomberg, than to the governor.

    “None of these people are beholden to anyone once they get into office, other than hopefully being beholden to the public,” he said.

    “I think Caroline Kennedy – I’ve said it a number of times, you keep asking me – she’s a very competent woman who would be a good senator, and the governor is blessed that there are other people who you could say the same thing about.”

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    Admittedly, this is from a scumbag tabloid–the New York Post. Birnbaum whom I despised for the Just Hillary is one of their people. Bloomberg is an affront to democracy.

  66. I think and hope that if Paterson picks CK it will be his undoing.
    I was feeling reasonable positive towards him until his “racism” comments during the campaign.

    However, what worries me is that many of the clinton supporters have “gone over” to the Obamanation. Any dem who continues to read the NYT and watch CNN is so brainwashed that they will probably accept anything BO has ordered.

    My own family, including husband and daughter, were all Clinton supporters who dislike BO, but all voted for him. I was the only holdout. I voted Republican at the top of the ticklet for the first time in my life. For a former committeewoman that was a big step, believe me.

    My Father, who lives with us, has become quite the defender of BO. So much as I hope that Paterson will do the right thing or be punished by the voters if he doesn’t, I worry that there are just not enough people who are outraged by the dimocrats’ fraud, corruption and pay to play politics to facilitate change.

  67. WBBOEI

    Bloomberg has done some good things. He has been instrumental in making huge progress in cutting the euthanasia rate for dogs and cats in NYC. For that I am very grateful.

  68. According to a blogger over at TexasDarlin, the CIA has info that says Obama is not biological related to his grandparents. I don’t know where this blogger got this info, but this is what I have suspected all along.
    According to other bloggers the laws of Hawaii make it very easy for a parent to attain a birth certificate for the baby.

    Someday we will know the truth about Obama rise to power, its not just a fluke, it was planned.

  69. I don’t think Paterson is going to pick CK. His public battle with Bloomberg, who is pushing CK, leads me to believe this.

  70. Paula,

    I hope you are right. I blame Teddy Kennedy for this fiasco. I’m sure he and Obamalite stroked her ego and convinced her she could actually do the job.

    What a joke!

  71. jeleanoro Says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    CountTheVotes Says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    Drudge has a link to a video of Caroline K saying her “you knows”
    **************************
    I agree that CK should not have Hillary’s Senate seat…but the ‘put downs’ and ridicule are way over the top…IMO…never do we see men diminished this way. Maybe we’re over compensating for the inexperienced boob getting the job…but does she have to be destroyed in the process? i don’t think she’s a BAD person, just misguided
    =====================

    I’m thinking that way too. She backstabbed Hillary and now is trying to steal her seat, so nix. But this is getting over the top, unnecessary roughness, tending toward personal destruction. Still, Palin and Hillary got worse treatment, so I don’t feel like defending CK — unless CK comes out strong retroactively defending Palin and Hillary.

    Do you think it’s worse than what was done to Quayle, Goldwater, and Gore in 2000?

  72. Why do we continue to eat our own?

    This from a friend who writes a lot of comments at Puma pac:

    A Message from Harriet Christian
    by murphy on December 21, 2008

    in PUMA, holy smokes

    I received this in email a moment ago. I’m sharing it because Harriet wants everyone to know what is going on at TNA, as do I. And please don’t think this is about me. I couldn’t care less what TNA or any individual there thinks about me. This is about YOU — what power-hungry people say behind your backs about you; how dismissive elitists are toward people who don’t have as much money or the right sort of education or profession or accent.

    If you’re too refined to care about Betty Jean Kling, too Upper West Side to stand beside Harriet Christian, and too polite for Puma, then what the HELL are you good for Amy?

    Amy Siskind, why don’t you take a long walk off a short pier.

    “Dear Friends,

    On Friday, December 19th, two colleagues and I resigned as Founding members of The New Agenda. Due to a conflict of interest we professionally and politely tendered our resignation. Here is an excerpt from that letter:

    This decision did not come easily and we wish you the best in all your efforts. It just doesn’t work for us to be told that we can’t speak with certain people. We would not work against the New Agenda but we have been a part of Puma from the beginning and need to feel free to support them as well. Also, quite frankly, deep down the narrative about BettyJean being dangerous or a stalker just didn’t feel right to be a part of. This whole situation started as a criticism to the New Agenda’s softening to the Favreau situation and snowballed out of control. The irony is that BJ was ultimately right – allowing a “boys will be boys” attitude to persist leaves the door open for worse behavior – but that’s a separate issue.

    Since that time, it has come to my attention that Amy Siskind has told the remaining Founders that SHE does not want Blue Collar Women or PUMA “Screamers” in HER organization. I felt compelled to let members of the New Agenda know what the underlying agenda is – looking out for wealthy women and looking down on the rest of us.

    Sincerely,

    Harriet Christian
    Original PUMA”

  73. Hillary Unleashed doesn’t believe a noodley appendage would do Caroline any good and neither do I! Carolyn Maloney is my pick for the NY Senate seat!

    http *//hillaryunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/caroline-a-cold-clunky-cacophony-of-cataclysm/

  74. Bloomberg has done some good things. He has been instrumental in making huge progress in cutting the euthanasia rate for dogs and cats in NYC. For that I am very grateful.
    —————————————
    Hi Carol–I am sure he has. But I do not like the idea of billionaires running government. They have too much power already. And when they shill for other members of their social class who are not qualified I become doubly suspicious.

  75. Emjay,

    If you are referring to Amy Siskind, theres no need to include her in an “eating our own” lament.

    She apparently was unwilling to give support to activist PUMA Betty-Jean Kling, whose daughter was attacked by an ex-bil at point blank range with a shot gun blast to the face several weeks ago. As a result, Louisa, BJ’s daughter, lost her right eye, ear and the right side of her skull. (sorry for the graphic nature of the description,theres no other way to communicate the full mpact of the severity of this tragedy and Amy Siskind’s rebuke)

    I’ve noticed lately many of the misogny sub-groups have turned their blogs into non-profit cottage industries under the guise of Educational forums doing research and proposing to educate the female gender (of humanity) to the dangers and management of violence and abuse by the male population.

  76. ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Last updated: 8:22 pm
    December 29, 2008
    Posted: 7:33 pm
    December 29, 2008

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The 18-year-old daughter of former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has given birth in Alaska to a son.

    People magazine reports that Bristol Palin gave birth to Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston on Sunday. He weighed 7 pounds, 4 ounces.

    Relative Colleen Jones tells the magazine the baby is fine and Bristol is “doing well.” Jones is the sister of Bristol’s grandmother.

  77. wbboei, I was just over a LaRouche and it appears he believes there is a rift between Soros and Obama. He says that this Israeli/Gaza thing has Soro’s hand all over it. He says that now Soros wants to bring down the Obama administration because he has not been a complient puppet for Soros.

    This middleeast war can’t be good at this time for Obama. I was thinking it was a lead up to war with Iran and final knife in the democratic agenda. I think there is a good possibility we will be at war or close to it with Iran before Bush leaves office on Jan. 9th.

  78. Info on another possible new Senator for NY:

    Congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand was sworn into office on January 4th, 2007 and is serving her first term as U.S. Representative to New York’s Twentieth Congressional District, which stretches across the upstate counties ……..

    In her first term in office, Congresswoman Gillibrand has established herself as an independent leader in Congress. She was the lead sponsor of legislation that would implement the bipartisan 9/11 Commission Recommendations, which will help protect our borders and keep America safe. She has been an advocate for decreased federal spending, and introduced legislation that would require the federal government – just as all New York families do – to balance their budget every year. Finally, she has made tax cuts for Upstate and North Country families, one of her highest priorities. She has authored legislation that would double the tax credit for child care expenses and make up to $10,000 in college tuition tax deductible.

    Congresswoman Gillibrand has taken unprecedented steps to make her office accountable and transparent to her constituents. She was the first Member of Congress to publish their public schedule online at the end of each day, and as a strong proponent of earmark reform, she voluntarily released every earmark that she requested that would invest in Upstate and North Country priorities.

    During the administration of President Clinton, Gillibrand served as Special Counsel to the U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew Cuomo. At HUD she played a key role in furthering HUD’s Labor Initiative and New Markets initiative, working to strengthen enforcement of the Davis-Bacon Act and drafting new markets legislation for public and private investment in building infrastructure to revitalize lower income areas across the nation. Following federal service, Congresswoman Gillibrand entered the private sector, joining one of the Country’s premier law firms. As a partner in the firm, she worked on a wide range of legal and policy related issues, requiring the knowledge and ability to negotiate on the highest levels, skills which serve her constituents well as a Member of Congress.

    Kirsten Gillibrand is a firm believer that those in a position to do so have an obligation to “give back” by serving their community. In addition to her responsibilities at the law firm, she maintained an extensive pro-bono practice for clients whose voices are seldom heard and needs seldom addressed. Her service on behalf of abused women and their children, and tenants seeking safe affordable housing without lead paint hazards has been tireless. At the heart of Representative Gillibrand’s core values is the inspiration of her grandmother, Dorothea (Polly) Noonan, who was a founder of the area’s first Women’s Democratic Club and was a pioneer for women’s rights in the region.

    Congresswoman Gillibrand has hit the ground running in her new position as the Representative for New York’s 20th Congressional District, she commits herself to deliver her best efforts to serve the people of the entire district regardless of political affiliations. She embraces her responsibilities with gratitude to the many thousands of voters who put their faith in her, and promises, to never forget where she came from or whose interests she seeks to serve – the people.
    ————–

    insert the usual h…. and w..
    gillibrand.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=118&Itemid=30

  79. emjay

    damn. i didn’t know pbs was showing “dr.atomic”. how was it? “new” opera is a tough sell (sometimes) to me, but i try. off to the met next week to see Massenet’s Thais. an oldie but goodie.

  80. It isn’t so much CK’s ‘you know’s or BO’s ‘uh’s (even Hillary often says ‘you know’) — it’s the absence of any substance between those verbal pause markers.

    It isn’t so much that CK stayed home with her children — but that she didn’t do much of anything while she was home. She could afford nannies. Why not write some real books? Why not prepare some really good speeches before these interviews?

  81. This is the seventh consecutive year that Hillary Clinton has secured top billing as Americans’ Most Admired Woman — and the 13th year she has made the top ten since her first appearance on the list in 1993. The 20% naming Clinton this year is comparable to what she received in 2007 (18%), but falls short of the 28% naming her in 1998.
    [….] Palin, McCain’s 2008 vice presidential pick and the first woman ever to run on a Republican presidential ticket, makes a strong second place debut, named by 11% of Americans. Her entrance on the list crowds Oprah Winfrey out of second place, a position she held each year from 2002 through 2007. Winfrey now ranks third [….]

    insert the usual h / w

    gallup.com/poll/113572/Obama-Hillary-Clinton-Share-Most-Admired-Billing.aspx

  82. wbboei, I was just over a LaRouche and it appears he believes there is a rift between Soros and Obama. He says that this Israeli/Gaza thing has Soro’s hand all over it. He says that now Soros wants to bring down the Obama administration because he has not been a complient puppet for Soros.
    ———————————–
    Confloyd: that is interesting. I can understand why would not be happy with O philosophically. He is probably learning what Admin has pointed out to us from the beginning namely that O cannot be trusted by anyone. But whether he would move to undermine O at this point I am just not sure. It sounds too good to believe. On the other hand, LR knows far more about that relationship than I do. And I can tell you for a fact he predicted this financial collapse and its timing when the DOW was at 14000–and like an idiot I did not believe him. He is an economic advisor to some of the former Soviet republics. They keep a much closer eye on Soros than we do–because they worry about his relationship to the Brits in terms of security. Do you know HS? He is one of LRs top people. He is a smart guy with a remarkable grasp of history. You can pick just about any historical topic at random and he has an encyclopedic knowledge. He is a former Texas politician. As I recall he is from Austin. He is a firm believer in Roosevelt values and our Hillary. Its been several months since I have talked to him. I will see what he says about all this. Most likely I will learn something.

  83. I remember Gingrich some time ago lauding the merits of the credit card and how it has changed our lives–for the better or so he said. I remember my dad who would never ever have one. That view was not uncommon among people who went through the depression. His dad my grandfather had stores in western Montana during the depression. and had to carry a number of farmers who could not pay their bills but did when they were able.

    This excessive reliance on credit is one thing that will probably change in the years ahead. Today, our economy is 70% consumer spending. And that spending is financed through consumer loans which will be the next shoe to fall on the defalut train. This economy will need to be rebuilt from the bottom up. We need manufacturing. And the stoical attitudes of our parents and grandparents will need to be part of the new agenda. So much of the spending I do is done to relieve boredom.

    The other thing we need to do is ween ourselves off of big media. That is a critical imperative. We need information and it must be truthful information not propaganda. They betrayed the American People in this election–and there is no living with that. We need access to world media to figure out what is really happening. I would rather read the Economist than Newsweek or Time. Who in their right mind wants to listen to Johnathan Alter. He should be doing commercials for the mens hair club. He is not a truth giver.

  84. Turndown:

    After the vile, evil and vainglorious hatchet job big media did on our Hillary in this past election, it is remarkable that she ends up as the most admired woman. Truth to tell, she did more to advance the cause of womens rights than the organizatons supposedly dedicated to that subject have done in their entire existence.

    After the deification job big media did on Bambi it is no surprise that he is the most admired man. I have only one question. Besides cheating his way to the nomination, what the fuck has he actually done to deserve it? Echo answereth not.

  85. It isn’t so much CK’s ‘you know’s or BO’s ‘uh’s (even Hillary often says ‘you know’) — it’s the absence of any substance between those verbal pause markers.
    —————————————
    Substance? The princess? It is a custom more honored in the breach than in the observance. Ya know?

  86. Just watch our girl take command of this rudderless Ship of State that we have on our hands.She will be the real experienced tough,fair,unwavering Master Sgt.of this great country that is now in a state of peril.The 90 day wonder,The Stealth COC will remain in a state of arrested development until Americans wake up and realize how they missed the boat on this one.Center Stage Hillary and show the world that a woman smart and beautiful and caring can do the job well and garner world wide respect as she brings them together with lasting solutions.

    By ABM90 Burn the race cards Lt.BHO you got what you wanted
    but unfortunately the shoes are too big to fill.

  87. The reason I say big media has betrayed the American People is because in a time of real crisis after giving us Bush (2x) and Iraq, they have once again suppressed the truth, treated us like gullible children and given us a false god who will fail at some critical moment due to character flaws and lack of experience. Again, the trained chimp taught to flip a coin will be right 50% of the time. They on the other hand are batting zero. Doesnt say much for a Harvard education now does it.

  88. Just watch our girl take command of this rudderless Ship of State that we have on our hands.She will be the real experienced tough,fair,unwavering Master Sgt.of this great country that is now in a state of peril.The 90 day wonder,The Stealth COC will remain in a state of arrested development until Americans wake up and realize how they missed the boat on this one.Center Stage Hillary and show the world that a woman smart and beautiful and caring can do the job well and garner world wide respect as she brings them together with lasting solutions.

    By ABM90 Burn the race cards Lt.BHO you got what you wanted
    but unfortunately the shoes are too big to fill.
    ——————————————
    ABM: you just hit a grand slam homerun with that one. Smart, beatiful and caring is what she is. As for Obama, you army guys used to call them shave-tail lieutenants. Is that term still valid, or has it fallen into disuse?

  89. ABM 90: Obama reminds me of HMS Pinnafore:

    I grew so rich that I was sent
    By pocket burrough into Parliament
    I always voted in my party’s call
    And I never thought of thinking
    For myself at all

    I thought so little they rewarded me
    By making me the Ruler (theres that word!)
    Of the Queens Navee.

    Now landsmen all
    Whoever you may be
    If you want to rise
    To the top of the tree
    If your soul isn’t fettered
    To an office stool (a metaphor for work)
    Be careful to be guided
    By this golden rule:

    Stick close to your desk
    And never go to sea
    And you all may be Rulers
    Of the Queens Navee.

  90. Wbboe: You make my day everyday.Your poetry is so fitting and sparks an old tired memory.Call them what you will for the troops had different names from different walks of life and different regions for those AO’s.Caused so much damage to the morale and the tools of war.I just thanked the Lord they were few and some did learn the hard way.It is strange that not many of them ever decided on a political career after the wars.But of course money pollutes and political power is much easier than working for a living.I hope all of my friends here at Hillary,s supporting army have a great 2009 and keep me blogging so that I don’t notice the calendar and time passing by.

    By ABM90 Breathes there a man who’s soul so dead?
    Yes.Coming to a whitehouse near you 1/20/09

  91. wobbei, you forget how the ‘system’ worked during the primary and general election. If a seat/election could not be given, it was stolen. Once again reason does not matter, only political ‘framing’ and ‘by any means possible’ tactics matter. Paterson is in a precarious position and I predict he will cave to money, pressure and entitlement.

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