Frankincense, Hopium, & Myrrh

Still groggy from the celebrations, Whoville began to stir.

All that consumed Hopium, in its myriad varieties, had its effect. At dawn, heads throbbed, bodies ached. Reality’s beams broke through the blinds. Whoville had a hangover.

The Grinch, busy as ever, during the night had taken the under-the-tree presents and drained the oil lamps dry.

Not much was left for Whoville to enjoy, save for the sweet sickly resin smell of the Frankincense and Myrrh which the Grinch dabbed behind his ears, like an annointing cologne. Whoville’s Hopes were dashed. It would be a long year a-coming.

Poor Whoville. The Grinch had suckered them all save for a very few.

And this Grinch was not coming back with returned gifts.

This Grinch was Hawaii bound.

* * *

More news from Whoville:

Who knew? Hillary sent back Caroline’s check:

This decade, other than a $1,000 donation to City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, the Camelot heiress has not financially supported any Democrat seeking city or state office in New York, records reveal.

Some say Kennedy, who is worth at least $100 million, missed an opportunity to curry favor among Democratic pols to establish herself as a serious political player as she lobbies Gov. Paterson for Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat.

She has already been asked to explain a spotty Election Day voting record over the past 20 years. [snip]

Kennedy gave to Clinton’s Senate and presidential campaigns. The former First Lady returned $2,300 of Kennedy’s cash after she endorsed Barack Obama. [snip]

In 2005, Kennedy did not publicly back Mayor Bloomberg’s Democratic challenger, Fernando Ferrer. An aide contended she voted for Ferrer, though she had worked for Bloomberg.

Like the Cole Porter song, Mrs. Otis Regrets Caroline Kennedy regrets.

On reports that she has missed votes in several elections: “I was dismayed by my voting record.

Krugman hopes for a clean government (from Chicago?) and is checking his list:

So what are the lessons for the Obama team?

First, the administration of the economic recovery plan has to be squeaky clean. Purely economic considerations might suggest cutting a few corners in the interest of getting stimulus moving quickly, but the politics of the situation dictates great care in how money is spent. And enforcement is crucial: inspectors general have to be strong and independent, and whistle-blowers have to be rewarded, not punished as they were in the Bush years.

Second, the plan has to be really, truly pork-free. Vice President-elect Joseph Biden recently promised that the plan “will not become a Christmas tree”; the new administration needs to deliver on that promise.

Finally, the Obama administration and Democrats in general need to do everything they can to build an F.D.R.-like bond with the public. Never mind Mr. Obama’s current high standing in the polls based on public hopes that he’ll succeed. He needs a solid base of support that will remain even when things aren’t going well.

And I have to say that Democrats are off to a bad start on that front. The attempted coronation of Caroline Kennedy as senator plays right into 40 years of conservative propaganda denouncing “liberal elites.” And surely I wasn’t the only person who winced at reports about the luxurious beach house the Obamas have rented, not because there’s anything wrong with the first family-elect having a nice vacation, but because symbolism matters, and these weren’t the images we should be seeing when millions of Americans are terrified about their finances.

Krugman winced at the luxurious beach house? What about the luxurious Rezko financed house? And “clean government” from Chicago???

Prosecutor Fitzgerald has already questioned Obama. Ordinarily a federal prosecutor questioning a political figure is a huge story. But Obama kept it quiet until just before Christmas. Big Media doesn’t want to disturb the wafting scent of Frankincense and Myrrh.

But the stench of Chicago corruption is not going away.

An attorney for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has asked a panel of Illinois state lawmakers who are considering impeaching the embattled governor to subpoena two of President-elect Barack Obama’s top aides.

The attorney, Ed Genson, requested that incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and longtime Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett testify before the 21-member panel. [snip]

Obama, Emanuel and Jarrett were each interviewed by FBI agents and federal prosecutors last week about their dealings with the Illinois governor, a fact first made public in the transition’s report, issued the days before Christmas Eve as Obama vacationed in Hawaii and Emanuel visited Africa. None of the three have spoken to the press about the interviews or Blagojevich since the report’s release.

No amount of Frankincense, Hopium, or Myrrh will replace or remove the stench of Chicago corruption.

118 thoughts on “Frankincense, Hopium, & Myrrh

  1. Admin: thanks for the video clip on Ella Fizgerald. Looks like Richard Rogers and Duke Ellington at the front table. Looks like the Blue Angel nightclub in Manhattan–circa 1955. Those were the days.

    Henry: you know that town. What do you think?

  2. The funniest, bravest and most encouraging snippet on Big Pink in the last couple days is the news that Hillary returned Caroline’s $2300…and kept quiet about it.

  3. Prosecutor Fitzgerald has already questioned Obama. Ordinarily a federal prosecutor questioning a political figure is a huge story. But Obama kept it quiet until just before Christmas. Big Media doesn’t want to disturb the wafting scent of Frankincense and Myrrh.
    ***************
    If Fitz would like to have a more formal chat with “O” after 01/20/09….Does Jones v Clinton apply or would it be back to the SCOTUS?

  4. Caroline Kennedy made a little more news on NY1 tonight, telling host Dominic Carter that she finally spoke to Hillary Clinton — who didn’t initially take her call — and that, if she’s not selected, she won’t run for the seat.
    ***************
    I think her worst nightmare is that she will be selected. Patterson will do her and NY State a favor if he picks someone else. Caroline will have done her family duty and can go back to being a happy political introvert.

  5. Ben Smith is a dolt. He writes pithy columns full of disjointed thoughts but if you get him on these programs live he is real stumble bum.

    But he is no match for Caroline. She has the charm of Marie Antionette and the brains of Phyllis Diller. One non sequitir after another–lord knows where the truth lies.

    For instance she sent hillary a check then endorsed bami and campaigned for him. Hillary did the right thing and returned the check.

    She tried to reach Hillary but Hillary did not return the call. End of story? No. She the talked to Hillary. So they missed eachother the first time and then they talked. Flotsam for idiot Ben.

    They had a great conversation and Hilllary told her what a great job it is. That was important because Hillary is such an inspiration to her–that she pretended to support her and then didnt.

    Caroline has snakes in her head. She would be a disaster in public office. The state of New York deserves better. Anyone but the Princess.

  6. If the princess wants to do something useful with her life why not take 10 million of her 100 million dollar fortune and set it aside for herself and her lavish lifestyle. Put the rest of it in a blind trust to fight AIDs in Africa. As it is its more like that line in the Neil Simon play California Suite where Alda accuses Fonda of bying a $500 pair of shorts so she can stand on a street corner and raise $100 for the Farmworkers and asks her why she did not fogo the effort and donate the $500 to the Farmworkers in the first place. The unstated answer is it aint about the farmworkers at all it is about Fonda or in this case Caroline and their desire to be poseurs.

  7. Reading the comments after the Politico article was interesting. I particularly liked the term “Camelot Barbie.” It fits.

    I really think, she is doing this, because of Uncle Teddy and the Kennedy “legacy.” If John Jr. had lived, he would be the standard bearer, but the task has fallen to her, because she is the one that is left. I hope that Paterson does not appoint her.

  8. But he is no match for Caroline. She has the charm of Marie Antionette and the brains of Phyllis Diller. One non sequitir after another–lord knows where the truth lies.
    *********
    Sounds like she got Jackie’s brains and unlike Jackie who managed to move above her baseline; Caroline hasn’t made the effort.

  9. Caroline Kennedy made a little more news on NY1 tonight, telling host Dominic Carter that she finally spoke to Hillary Clinton — who didn’t initially take her call — and that, if she’s not selected, she won’t run for the seat.
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    What? I thought if she is not appointed then the Kennedys pluss their dogs cats and squirrels would storm the Bastille in Albany in 2010 and force the voters to elect them. But now this–she will not run if she is not appointed. So what is the point of storming the Bastille. That she does not care to face the voters without the inherent advantage of incumbency is understandable but they do need to get their stories straight. But maybe not. Perhaps they are better off in the role of Sherehazade telling the press a different story every day to keep her teetering campaign alive. After all Patteson could still appoint her.

  10. I wonder why Emanuel is going to Africa. Surely there is a reason. Where in Africa is he going. Who does he plan to see. Is there some reason to see them now 30 days prior to innauguration. Have promises been made which cannot be fulfilled due to the state of the economy. What about that 870 billion dollar relief package. Do those expectations need to be tamped down too?

  11. A wonderful example of Caroline’s diplomatic skills:

    “I admire the journey J. Lo has traveled. I’ve been to a school in the Bronx near the house she grew up in and so I actually have a lot of admiration for her and she looks pretty good but in terms of public policy and as we spend our adults lives and I don’t think there is really much we have in common,” she said.”

    What, both are mother’s with children. Both have celebrity status although one of the two started with nothing but raw talent amassing a fortune through hard work, guts and determination.

    Caroline and J. Lo are both Catholics.

    So how many Hispanic constituents do you think Caroline alienated with that comment?

  12. SHV Says:
    December 26th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
    Caroline Kennedy made a little more news on NY1 tonight, telling host Dominic Carter that she finally spoke to Hillary Clinton — who didn’t initially take her call — and that, if she’s not selected, she won’t run for the seat.
    ***************
    I think her worst nightmare is that she will be selected. Patterson will do her and NY State a favor if he picks someone else. Caroline will have done her family duty and can go back to being a happy political introvert.
    =================

    Makes sense. An elderly relative, terminally ill and with brain damage, makes a last request. Young relative goes through the motions rather than refuse him.

  13. Admin> this Buds for you. (P.S. perhaps we can whistle up Ella for an encore). I would keep going beyond 3 verses but am starting to fade.
    —————————————-
    “ Ms Kennedy Regrets”

    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today, madam.

    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today, madam.

    She has failed to contribute a dime-the heiress

    And to vote well she hasn’t the time-embarrassed

    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today.

    First she learned from her Uncle Ted, Madam

    That the Senate would soon be her bed, Madam,

    So she launched a full blown campaign

    Til New Yorkers recoiled in pain–and anger

    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today.

    Then rum ridden Uncle Ted went nuts, Madam

    Held a knife to the governors gut, Madam

    Appoint her the future is ours

    Or I’ll unleash all of my hordes -against you

    Alas Ms Kennedy decided she will not run today

    (or in 2010 if she is not appointed–todays story)

  14. Wbboei, pretty darn good. Probably only Cole Porter himself could improve on your lyrics. The people who did the “Unelectable” video should put your lyrics to use – talk about viral potential – a video like that would have it.

  15. My theory is that Ron E went to Africa to see that the contracts on
    the remaining would be ratters was carried out with no loose ends.Clean sweep Chicago style and St.Valentine Day has not arrived as yet.

    By ABM90 Thank you Admin.great flow of info.keeps us all ahead of things and learning.

  16. wbboei Says:

    December 26th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
    But he is no match for Caroline. She has the charm of Marie Antionette and the brains of Phyllis Diller.
    ***************************************************************************
    how dare you insult phyllis diller.

  17. Alcina: in this world you find smart people who try to look dumb, and dumb people who try to look smart. You have seen it, I have seen it, we have all seen it. Nobody is fooled because you can always tell. Let me offer a few examples to illustrate the point:

    1. Smart People Trying to look Dumb: Phyllis Diller (saw her in interviews, and on Hollywood Squares-smart), Lucky Luciano (my late friend and mentor met him at a secret meeting in New York sometime in the 50s years after he was extradited to Sicily and reported as much when I asked him what was he like), and of couse our friend Columbo. Vincent Chin Gigante was a pretty good act too when he wandered around the Village in a bathrobe and a panatella babbling incoherently, and entertaining undercover FBI agents while serving as underboss of the Genovese Family).

    2. DUMB PEOPLE TRYING TO ACT SMART: alas, there are far more of them. Campell Brown and the rest of Big Media tops the list–a heartfelt congratulations to you Campbell keep those cards and letters coming. But the moment the Princess trolluped on the scene I knew Cambell had competition. Snooty, stupid, rich. Truth to tell she was never a serious threat to Cambell. But even in this some competition is better than no competition at all. Meanwhile the Oscar in the leading mens category goes to the always stupid and snarky Johathan Alter who suffers from Samsons disease. The less hair the more dumb and now he is practically bald.

  18. Africa? First I’ve heard of it. Do they have an extradition treaty with Illinois?
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    Turndown: the magnificent transition team which has received gushing praise from big media for putting together the finest team of cabinet officers since the 1927 Yankees (while conveniently forgetting that they are mostly all Clinton People) has been working on an extraditon treaty with Kenya so his genocidal relatives have a ratline to Illinois when they become the target of hot pursuit. They have jobs waiting for them in the Combine.

  19. Makes me respect HRC even more and it reminds me that we are similar in that we have too much pride and self-respect to grovel at the feel of these criminals. Caroline’s $2300 has probably been used to bribe Patterson into making her senator. It’s dirty money from the hands of corrupt and disgraceful people.

  20. The funniest, bravest and most encouraging snippet on Big Pink in the last couple days is the news that Hillary returned Caroline’s $2300…and kept quiet about it.
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    Emjay-

    Hillary has high moral character.
    Ted has low moral character.
    Big Media has no moral chacter.

  21. I hope that Hillary returns CK’s piano soon, and tells her where to stick it. Hillary, always the astute one. And she was quiet about it, did not even call a press conference or make a speech. I also noted that Hillary distanced herself from her supporters saying that they do not speak for her; this might be wise at this point because I have witnessed that some of her supporter sites have gone apesh!t.
    Has no one called for vetting Caroline’s husband as they did Bill?

  22. ShortTermer: Which Hillary supporter sites are you referring to? I think some people would say the same about Hillary is 44. I think everyone at this point is entitled to their opinion and there are so many differing opinions (Hillary supporters against Obama/ Hillary supporters for Obama / Hillary supporters who didn’t vote at all) that there is no way any of us could ever speak for Hillary. She is in a different position than the rest of us. She has her political future at stake and her own battles to fight. However, we are simply voters who don’t owe the Democratic Party anything if they don’t deliver on their promises. And there is no way Caroline and her husband will ever endure the criticism and demands placed on Hillary and Bill. Caroline is simply a debutante who has no idea what she is doing. She has her uncle and handlers taking care of everything for her.

  23. Shorttermer: Hillary is simply saying this is not her battle. It does no good for her as secretary of state or the country who desperately needs her in that role to get dragged into this turf war. But that is exactly what media whores will try to do. They are always looking for what is best for them and worst for the country. And while it is true that part of the same battle lines have been drawn–the middle class coalition (women, working class, seniors and their representatives) vs the have and have not coaliton (wealthy bleeding heart liberals, Chicago thugs and the bamboozled) it is not her battle to fight.

  24. Obama, Emanuel and Jarrett were each interviewed by FBI agents and federal prosecutors last week about their dealings with the Illinois governor, a fact first made public in the transition’s report, issued the days before Christmas Eve as Obama vacationed in Hawaii and Emanuel visited Africa. None of the three have spoken to the press about the interviews or Blagojevich since the report’s release
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    If the fulsomeness of time, I believe Jarrett will be a target. Just call it a hunch.

  25. If the fulsomeness of time, I believe Jarrett will be a target. Just call it a hunch.
    **************
    It is a target rich environment. The USA’s office and the FBI in the Northern District of Illinois are going to be a constant source of problems for Obama. IMO, accepting Fitzgerald’s resignation after 01/20/09 wont make the problem go away.

  26. Admin: I have cleaned up the verse a little. I will see what Paul is doing. I need to find a good torch singer. The lighting, setting and mood must be right. I chase it and see where it goes.
    ————————————————————
    MS KENNEDY REGRETS

    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today, Madam.
    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today, Madam.
    She has failed to chip in a dime-the heiress
    And to vote well she hasn’t the time-embarrassed
    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today.

    She was told by her Uncle Ted, Madam
    That the Senate would be her bed, Madam,
    So she launched a gaff prone campaign
    Til New Yorkers recoiled in pain–and anger
    Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today.

    Then rum-ridden Ted went nuts, Madam
    Held a knife to the governors gut, Madam
    Appoint her the future’s yours-slush money
    Deny her and watch my hordes -destroy you
    Alas, Ms Kennedy regrets she’s unable to run today
    (or in 2010 if she is not appointed–today’s story)

  27. I had to laugh when I read that Caroline called Hillary an inspiration. In fact, she was so “inspirational” you endorsed her opponent.

    BTW, I agree with those here who think CK’s doing this to please her family, especially Ted. She doesn’t seem all that into it, frankly. And notice she did the TV interview with Obama shill Dominic Carter, who wouldn’t dare ask her tough questions.

  28. Courtesy of Mrs. Smith, I will never feel bad about my present reaction to the now grown-up Caroline.

    Read the following very slowly, and one sentence at a time.

    It brings out the spoiled girl in her and her contempt-pity for “the lesser classes,” not to mention her inability to put together two or more cohesive cogent sentences.

    Might as well load this into my rant:

    Caroline DID NOT write “books.” She compiled other authors’ and artists’ works and sometimes called it editing. She only wrote actual copy for one of the books credited to her.

    So here is what she said yesterday, word for word, courtesy of Mrs. Smith:

    “I admire the journey J. Lo has traveled.

    I’ve been to a school in the Bronx near the house she grew up in

    and so I actually have a lot of admiration for her

    and she looks pretty good

    but in terms of public policy and as we spend our adults lives

    and I don’t think there is really much we have in common.”

    Asked Mrs. Smith –

    “So how many Hispanic constituents do you think Caroline alienated with that comment?”

    Plenty, Mrs. Smith, plenty. There are serious numbers of people who recognize being patronized when they hear and see it.

  29. The latest assault on the pending presidency of Obama is that horrible scandalous degrading and anti patriotic I am shocked my world is toppling placard which reads: “O No. The President”. Wow! If that is the best the far right can do they should get out of the business.

    He will be the President. Therefore, the better smack down would be a tee shirt designed in Kenya, manufactured in Indonesia and shipped here through Canada which read: “NOT MY PRESIDENT”. On the backside the text of Article 2.

    Of course I would never do anything like that myself. But there are enterprising entrepreneurs in the world who would. Alas.

  30. ShortTermer Says:
    December 27th, 2008 at 10:33 am
    I hope that Hillary returns CK’s piano soon, and tells her where to stick it. Hillary, always the astute one. And she was quiet about it, did not even call a press conference or make a speech. I also noted that Hillary distanced herself from her supporters saying that they do not speak for her; this might be wise at this point because I have witnessed that some of her supporter sites have gone apesh!t.
    ================

    The only quote/story Ive seen on that ws clearly about her BIG WIG DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN supporters — not about grassroots people much less Pumas. She might have a point about someone who already supports Cuomo or such, using the ‘CK backstabbed Hillary’ as a talkng point only. I’m not sure the alleged third party anon quotes were even true.

    And I don’t care. My take is the same as in the summer re Denver. It’s her job to act above everythign and go along with the establishment. It’s our job to raise hell — giving her a bargaining chip that she can use as she likes.

    This isn’t an electoin. She has probabl already made the best deal she can with Paterson. More noise from us may help a little, anyway it keeps issues live.

  31. ADMIN> I took another look at that photo of Ella, Rogers and Ellington and I think whoever produced it photo-shoped it on us. Here is why I say that:

    1. First, in the photo Rogers looks old whereas Ellington looks young middle age. However in real life Ellington was a little older than Rogers, i.e. Rogers (1902-1979) and Ellington (1899-1974). Surely, life on Murray Hill in mid-town Manhattan was not hard on Rogers and life in Harlem was not that easy on Duke.

    2. Second, I aint so sure that’s Ella Fitzgerald. Her features were different and she was heavier set than what we see here. So who is it? Here is who I think it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbgx85iSwqo

  32. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:
    Caroline is simply a debutante who has no idea what she is doing. She has her uncle and handlers taking care of everything for her.
    ==================

    And not very well, apparently.

  33. Thanks, Emjay,

    Read the following very slowly, and one sentence at a time.

    It brings out the spoiled girl in her and her contempt-pity for “the lesser classes,” not to mention her inability to put together two or more cohesive cogent sentences.

    Might as well load this into my rant:

    Caroline DID NOT write “books.” She compiled other authors’ and artists’ works and sometimes called it editing. She only wrote actual copy for one of the books credited to her.

    So here is what she said yesterday, word for word, courtesy of Mrs. Smith:

    “I admire the journey J. Lo has traveled.

    I’ve been to a school in the Bronx near the house she grew up in

    and so I actually have a lot of admiration for her

    and she looks pretty good

    but in terms of public policy and as we spend our adults lives

    and I don’t think there is really much we have in common.”

    Asked Mrs. Smith –

    “So how many Hispanic constituents do you think Caroline alienated with that comment?”

    Plenty, Mrs. Smith, plenty. There are serious numbers of people who recognize being patronized when they hear and see it.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    even worse, Emjay:

    Caroline made the statement yesterday in a live video interview, “Her mother LOVED campaigning!

    There is a rant here that definately put’s Caroline’s honesty and trustworthyness into question:

    “Caroline has done absolutely zero for Women’s issues. I just witnessed Caroline Kennedy make a statement on tv about how her mother felt about campaigning. She said, (direct quote) “My mother LOVED Campaigning!”.

    I read Jackie’s biography years ago. One of the most poignant passages reinforced how much Jackie HATED Campaigning with and for Jack. The latest book “America’s Queen” written about the First Lady reiterates how much she HATED campaigning, going into the details of why she hated campaigning so much.

    If Caroline is trying to pull another fast one… she’s been caught in a LIE…and I can only hope the media picks up and expands on how easily Caroline can pass off a LIE to those of us that (me as a kid) held her mother in such high regard!”

    Hillary Unleashed

  34. ShortTermer Says:
    I also noted that Hillary distanced herself from her supporters saying that they do not speak for her; this might be wise at this point because I have witnessed that some of her supporter sites have gone apesh!t.
    ============

    I forgot to say she distanced herself from us Pumas long ago. 🙂

  35. Emjay Says:
    December 27th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
    Courtesy of Mrs. Smith, I will never feel bad about my present reaction to the now grown-up Caroline.

    Read the following very slowly, and one sentence at a time.
    =================

    To be annoyingly fair, I think a voice tape can be punctuated in an unfair way — as was done to Sarah Palin.

    I dont have time for details, but if one of the ‘and’s had been taken as an ‘ah’ or ‘er’ and the pause treated as a full stop, both this and many of Palin’s transcripts would look much better.

    PS you’re right about CK’s hairstyle. I do’t know any matrons but the female news casters wear theirs that way too.

  36. Speaking of Cole Porter and debutants somewhere in the back of my mind there is this:

    In the gilded age, a Wall Street millionaire
    Was the answer to a working maiden’s prayer,
    But today she’d chuck that yearly fifty grand
    For the leader of a big-time band.

    In the days when Casanova was the tops
    All his rivals with the femmes were famous flops,
    But today who’s got that extra monkey gland?
    Why, the leader of a big-time band.

    When Goodman, champ of champs,
    Goes blowin’ blue,
    Rum-ridden debutramps
    Nearly come to.

    ‘Cause there’s nothing, when you’re out, like being fanned
    By the leader of a big-time band.
    And Bambi before blueblood hubby

  37. The only quote/story Ive seen on that ws clearly about her BIG WIG DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN supporters — not about grassroots people much less Pumas. She might have a point about someone who already supports Cuomo or such, using the ‘CK backstabbed Hillary’ as a talkng point only. I’m not sure the alleged third party anon quotes were even true.

    And I don’t care. My take is the same as in the summer re Denver. It’s her job to act above everythign and go along with the establishment. It’s our job to raise hell — giving her a bargaining chip that she can use as she likes.

    This isn’t an electoin. She has probabl already made the best deal she can with Paterson. More noise from us may help a little, anyway it keeps issues live.
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    Turndown: I agree with you entirely right up to the last point. I just dont see Hillary making any kind of deal with Patterson. I do think she gave him her opinion on what is best for the state of New York without regard to her own political ambitions. He would be wise to follow her advice. I fully expect that she stressed the importance of experience and competence. But Patterson is the one who must deal with the issue and he is between a rock and a hard place. The smart move for him is to appoint a qualified person and there are a number of them. Is the smart? Personally, I have a low opinion of the man based on how he turned on Hillary. So I cannot proffer an objective answer.

  38. Someday, when all the smoke clears, I would like for many of Obama’s better known supporter/celebrity endorsers to be hooked up to legitimate lie detector equipment and asked the following question:

    “Why did you endorse Obama?”

  39. I want someone to quote CK re endorsing BO becasue her children talked her into it. Then ask to interview them about their views on NY Seante issues, since they will be making her decisiosn there also.

  40. I can well imagine that there was a meeting between Princess Caroline, and her Madison Avenue handlers, where the following came up:

    Question: one of the questions you will have to answer Your Ladyship is why after forsaking political life all these years you have decided to step forward now. If you blow that question people will say you are not qualified.

    Answer: well, I feel an obligation to the family and I love my uncle Ted and, and, and-

    Question: forgive me Your Ladyship but that will never do. The public does not care about your family obligations.

    Answer: well then what should I say?

    Question: you must say something which will impress the voters of New York. They voted for Bambi and remember 911. So why dont you say the reason you rose to the call of public service is because you were inspired by Obama and your are determined to prevent another 911. We can tip off the press on that. Can you say those words Your Ladyship.

    Answer: consider it done.

  41. WBBOEI

    Can you explain more about how P turned on Hillary. I thought he supported her until she caved.
    I live in NY. I was disappointed in some of the comments he made about racism in the election. But I applauded his nixing the broadwater debacle.
    I definitely will not vote for him if he appoints CK.

    Does anyone know how I can drop my last name from the posts? It was an error when I initially signed up.

  42. Carol

    We tried to help a couple of days ago=

    Easist is to exit HillaryIs44

    Use Google or IE to pull up the sight again

    Go to upper left second-from-left rectangular box and sign in using a totally new login.

    It is, as you hinted, wise to not use any login resembling your name.

    Good luck.

  43. Analysis: Caroline Kennedy’s star power obscures others who seek to replace Clinton in Senate
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    When will they learn this is not American Idol? There is nothing star like about her save a name which is an artifact of another era.

  44. Carol Saxe

    I think you had a couple of responses on Dec 22, after you requested some hints, sometime after 10:30, I think.

  45. Appopos of that article- the best way for Patterson to prove he is not ACCIDENTAL and therefore inconsequential is to stand up against the Kennedy clan and select the most qualified candidate for the people of New York–based on past experience and a proven track record of success in a competitive political forum. A number of her rivals have those qualities, and two of them are women. Looking ahead to 2010 Peter King (R) has them too–lest he forget. And then he may be primaried himself if he selects Kennedy. Maybe he can conjure up another excuse of racism. False claims of racism are the last bastion of scoundrels.

  46. Holmes wrote a long remembered speech called A Soldiers Faith. It was a direct appeal to TR who appointed him to the US Supreme Court in 1902. In it he recounted his experiences as a Captain in the Massachusetts volunteers in the Civil War where he was twice left for dead on defeated battefied. As an old man he compares how society regards a soldier to how it regards a multi millionair to a real life hero and reluctantly concludes that where Vanderbilt sits is always the head of the table. Not much has changed since then. But when it comes to who will lead the country in perilous times we must avoid that trap and surely if we have fallen into the trap already wiht Bambi the governor of New York must not compound it now with Kennedy.

  47. In reference to:

    turndownobama-com Says:
    December 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Exactly what I said in condensed version, but your post says it so much better. Thanks. It was a couple of the grassroots sites I referenced in my post; they were acting like kids.

    BTW, the photo of Terry McAulliffee’s family was really nice [they are such a beautiful American family] that was inlcuded in an email. I had signed up for his possible gubernatorial campaign, should there be one. He and Harold Ickes NEVER turned on Hillary, at least as far as I know. So, these two are my new best boyfriends. I will phone bank for Terry should he run since I live so far from VA and on the ground is not possible.

  48. wbboei Says:

    December 27th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    …he compares how society regards a soldier to how it regards a multi millionair to a real life hero and reluctantly concludes that where Vanderbilt sits is always the head of the table. Not much has changed since then. But when it comes to who will lead the country in perilous times we must avoid that trap…

    ……………………………..

    But how? Every horrendous historical event that has taken place throughout the century has had it’s naysayers, it’s militants, it’s mesmerized stargazers, above all it’s heroic and righteous truth seekers and underground resistance movements. And through it all, media propagandist tools have been used for both good and evil.

    Genghis Khan, Hitler, Mengele, Stalin , Idi Amin, Ayatollah Khomeni, Bin Ladin, and on and on…

    After the damage is done, we reflect on the evil perpetrated on mankind. We record the events in the hope that a lesson can be learned…never again…never again…

    I guess what I am saying is that sometimes I feel so helpless and angry. I ask how could Obama be elected? How could ck take over Hillary’s seat? I just don’t know.

  49. ShortTermer

    Get your dialing fingers ready.

    Unless Terry falls flat on his face, he’s in it to win it. The $ are starting to come in and the serious planning meetings have already started.

    There are several moderate folks looking to secure their positions in states where BHO people might be feeling frisky enough to try and challenge the current status quo.

    Which reminds me…is BHO camp waiting to find out extent of Guv Blago damage, and to whom, before selecting his nominee to DNC Chair?

  50. JanH

    Get out your smelling salts – you are not going to believe this part of ck’s interview last night:

    Caroline tells why Kennedy name may have kept her from running
    BY MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

    Saturday, December 27th 2008, 2:03 AM

    Caroline Kennedy, who’s vying for Senate, said her famous family name might have held her back from running for office in past.

    Caroline Kennedy said Friday her birthright in America’s most celebrated political dynasty might have held her back from seeking public office.

    “If my last name was not Kennedy, maybe I would have run for office a long time ago,” Kennedy, 51, told NY1 Friday night.

    “I’m proud of my family tradition,” the daughter of the 35th President said. “It means a lot to me and I want to live up and that’s why I have been preparing myself to do this.”

  51. She’s perfectly entitled to live up to her family’s tradition of public service, but don’t expect to start at the top rung of the ladder while more qualified people who’ve paid their dues get bypassed.

  52. From Bitterpolitiz
    **************************

    drummajor66 // December 27, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    From the Chicago SunTimes;

    Fitzgerald asks panel not to subpoena Obama aides

    FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    The Illinois House committee investigating a possible impeachment of Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Saturday that members won’t subpoena two incoming White House advisers as the governor’s attorney requested.

    In the letter received by the committee Friday, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said any such subpoenas “would interfere with the ongoing criminal investigation into the activities of Governor Rod Blagojevich and others.”

    Fitzgerald asked the special investigative committee specifically to not subpoena President-elect Barack Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Obama incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. and Nils Larsen, a Tribune Co. executive vice president.

    “The committee unanimously decided from the beginning that they wouldn’t do anything to impede the investigation,” committee spokesman Steve Brown said Saturday. “We’ll follow that practice.”

    Blagojevich’s defense attorney Ed Genson did not immediately respond to a phone message left Saturday requesting comment on the committee’s decision.

    Fitzgerald said any testimony from Jarrett, Emanuel, Jackson or Larsen “would overlap with the subject matter of the pending criminal investigation.”

    Blagojevich has denied any wrongdoing. He has vowed to fight federal corruption charges, including allegations that he schemed to sell Obama’s vacant Senate seat to the highest bidder.

  53. Emjay,

    Huh? What drug is she on? LOL…I guess we can expect doubletalk from her forever more.

    I’m still waiting for her financial records to come out…ahem…

  54. Emjay Says:

    December 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

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    Hmmm…….What has she been doing to prepare herself for public office? Following BO around on the campaign trail? Her resume would be a bit thicker, if she had truly been preparing herself. But, her name may be enough. Her father and uncle had quite a bit of life and government service, before running for public office. Heck, she hasn’t even voted on a consistent basis, nor has she been politically active until now. This is the work of TK, pushing her to take over the family mantle.

  55. I guess Obama went to the same “throw under the bus” school as ck did. She’s willing to use the name as long as it helps her, otherwise she plays the blame game.

  56. David refuses to be pushed around:

    Caroline’s no front-runner, peeved Paterson pledges
    Posted on 12-24-2008
    Gov. Paterson put up a caution flag Wednesday to those ready to anoint Caroline Kennedy New York’s next U.S. senator. “How is she a front-runner?” Paterson shot back when a reporter used the term referring to Kennedy.

    Then he had to do it the next day as well:

    Gov: No hasty choice for Hil’s seat blues
    Posted on 12-25-2008
    One day after Mayor Bloomberg called again for a quick decision on Hillary Clinton’s successor, Gov. Paterson stood his ground and said those demanding a hasty selection should chill out.

    Both items are from the NY Daily News.

  57. Lookie who I found responding to one of the article summaries I posted…
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    1950democrat Dec 26, 2008 10:00:32 PM
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    Good for Paterson! Imo the replacement should be someone to carry on Hillary’s work — not CK who backstabbed her. Carolyn Maloney might be a good choice. Really Hillary should choose her successor — as Biden, Ted Kennedy, and Obama may do.

  58. Bloomberg is a full-fledged idiot! Hillary hasn’t got the sos yet. Therefore she is still in the senate seat. What is his hurry?

    Unless he doesn’t want the other candidates to be vetted.

  59. wbboei Says:
    December 27th, 2008 at 11:09 am
    Shorttermer: Hillary is simply saying this is not her battle. It does no good for her as secretary of state
    ================

    Right. It’s interesting to us but from the SOS pv it’s just a 2-yr appointment for God’s sake, then the voters vote. Sfaik everyone mentioned is some kind of liberal Democrat. At worst CK would be just one more vote along the Kennedy party line. If she fouls up, hopefully she’ll get voted out and good riddance.

    If Obama is trying to groom CK for first woman president — better her than Pelosi.

  60. carol,

    go to the bottom of the file (Ctl-E)

    hit “logout”

    close the window.

    Call hillaryis44.org up again.

    Find ‘register’. Re-register from scratch with whatever you want as your new name.

    (The old name may continue to work, juts don’t use it if you don’t want to.)

  61. Emjay Says:
    December 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
    Lookie who I found responding to one of the article summaries I posted…
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    1950democrat Dec 26, 2008 10:00:32 PM
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    ==============

    Heh, don’t remember seeing you except here. Maybe I should go back to that handle now.

  62. Hey, “logout” just says “you are attempting to log out of hillaryis44. try again later.”

    Duh. Well, I couldn’t be trapped in the twilight zone with nicer people!

  63. If Obama is trying to groom CK for first woman president — better her than Pelosi.
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    Trust me this is not about CK becoming president. It is about her name, fundraising and the Kennedy Machine which will diminish when Teddy slips the mortal coil and the rest of the world breathes a sigh of relief. From what we have seen of the Princess on the campaign trail it is rather obvious that she could not pour piss out of a boot if it had the directions on the bottom side. And the only thing that can be said in her defense is as bad as she is she is far better than Peolsi.

  64. turndown & Carol

    The site has been a little buggy or wiggy for the last 50 minutes or so…I couldn’t refresh a bit ago, so took a nap.

    I think it’s just fine now.

  65. emjay,

    At this point I’d rather be trapped inside than trapped outside. I’ll try next time I accidentally get logged out.

  66. carol,

    What worked for me just now rather than hitting ‘logout’ was to call up the site in a different browser. It did not show me as logged in. At that point it would be possible to register as a whole different account.

  67. If you have spent any part of your life in a corporation, the military or some other large organization then you know full well that there is an important distinction to be made between someone who is a true leader like Hillary who steps forward boldly in an uncertain environment and shows others the way to achieve the goal as opposed to someone who has little or no personal leadership abilities but simply relies on organizational position to purse the goal while jealously guarding their perks and prerogatives.

    The first example is a true leader and Hillary Clinton is the perfect example. The second is bureaucratic functionarly and Pelosi is a prime example. Who among us can forget Hillary at the debates standing on stage reaching out to the country, ourdebating every opponent and facing down a depraved press. Then think of Pelosi standing at the lecturn at the convention, visibly trembling and stumbling over her lines–a picture of incompetence propped up her positional authority. Suddenly, the difference between a true leader and a poseur becomes obvious.

    A friend of mine who is a well respected maratime arbitrator on the west coast was friends with the late Jimmy Herman who was the leader of the International Longshoreman and Warehousemans Union which represents longshoremen at ports on the west coast. He succeeded Harry Bridges and was perhaps the last real leader of that union. Jimmy was a close friend of Pelosi and held her in the highest regard. He treated her with great respect and she treated him like a little girl treats her father which was all rather sickening to my friend. He went to lunch with them and witnessed the spectacle. Jimmy never lived to see what she would become namely an ugly power driven characture of a leader. My friend remarked the other day that if Jimmy is looking down at her from heaven now he would not be pleased.

  68. Does anyone seriously believe Kennedy or Pelosi could be President? Can you picture either one of them surviving the process. We will not see a woman president in most of our lifetime. And even if that were not the case the chances that it would be either one of them is abolute zero. The misogny we saw in this country will not subside. The men and women who run the media are whores and they are invested in it. The only way it will happen is if Hillary does it. Period.

  69. Taken from: fivethirtyeight.com

    Saturday, December 27, 2008

    Kennedy Struggling To Win Over Key Demographic: Women

    Here’s something interesting from the recent Quinnipiac poll on the New York Senate vacancy. There is essentially no difference among women and men when it comes to picking New York’s next Senator. Among New York men, 32 percent want Governor Paterson to appoint Caroline Kennedy to take Hillary Clinton’s seat, versus 27 percent for Andrew Cuomo. Among women, 33 percent want Kennedy, and 31 percent Cuomo, a statistically insignificant difference.

    Women seem to be able to separate out any personal affections they might have for Kennedy (or her kinfolk) from their perception of her qualifications to serve in the Senate. Exactly 50 percent of women have a favorable view of Kennedy, as opposed to 14 percent unfavorable — a significantly wider favorability gap than Kennedy gets from men, among whom 42 percent have favorable opinion and 21 percent an unfavorable one. But, women are no more likely than men to say that Kennedy is qualified for the position. Among women, 40 percent think she is qualified to serve in the Senate and 39 percent think she isn’t — not a statistically significant difference from the response among men, of whom 39 percent call her qualified and 43 percent do not.

    Of course, there is no hard-and-fast rule that women support other women candidates more than men do. But it usually works out that way — at least when the woman is a Democrat. Since 2006, Democratic women running for the Senate have gotten an average of 57 percent of the women’s vote as compared with 49 percent of the men’s vote (these figures exclude women like Kay Hagan that were running against other women). That 8-point gap is twice the size of the gender gap on this year’s Generic Congressional Ballot, where 56 percent of women supported the Democrat as opposed to 52 percent of men.

    2008 Women MenFigures (AL) 39% 32%Landrieu (LA) 57% 47%Shaheen (NH) 60% 45%2006 Women MenKlobuchar (MN) 63% 52%Stabenow (MI) 60% 53%McCaskill (MO) 51% 46%Clinton (NY) 73% 61%Cantwell (WA) 60% 57%==================================AVERAGE 57% 49%As we perhaps learned with Sarah Palin, women are not amused by other women whom they perceive to be unqualified — and it probably isn’t helpful to Kennedy that she has Hillary Clinton’s shoes to fill. Still, for a candidate campaigning (yes, she’s campaigning) so heavily on personal rather than political qualities, this is not the response that one would expect.

    — Nate Silver at 1:57 PM

    —————————

    While I vehemently disagree with him that Palin was unqualified, the rest is interesting reading.

  70. You cannot make a New Years resolution without first asking yourself what did you learn this past year of your life that you did not know before.

    In my case, I began the year believing that the media was biased to a degree but was not a pure propaganda mill. I thought the American people collectively would not allow themselves to be reduced to a childlike state where they believed in the practical equivalent of dragons, kings under enchantment and Barcrack Banana, Prescious, Manboobs call him what you will. I thought the media would vet all candidates and people would see he is a shill for big business and would sell his constituents down the river as witnessed by freezing tenants and radio active water suppliers get his help and the people he represents are left holding the bag. I though the procedures of the Democratic Party were democratic, and would never disenfrancise their own voters, I believed Hillary would take her case to the convention, I believed Republicans were competent, I believed that in a country with a foundational documen which begins We The People the people were sovereign and most of all I believed hoped and prayed the Hillary Clinton would be our next president, because although I was wrong about everything else I did forsee this economic mess we were in but that is not to imply that I made the right investment moves to deal with it.

    I am working on a New Years resolution. First and foremost, I have lost interest in the political process, will not watch tv or read the newpapers. There will be no truth in them and how can I be party to this collective delusion. I will continue my criticism of bambi which will be studied in some cases and just plain off the wall in others because I cannot help myself. I will pray for the rise of Hillary and will see about a bumber sticker that says “And we could have had Hillary”. If there is any chance of a third party I will put everything I have into it. I will support continuation of Patrick Fitzgeralds work wherever it leads and believe it will implicate Obama and/or his supporters. And when people give me this happy horseshit that you have to support him because he is not our president I will smile, look them in the eye and tell them that when the procedure is corrupt the president cannot be legitimate and since it was not legitimate he is not my president.

  71. Another thing I learned antecodally is that women do not support other women. Last night a very dedicated young lady who lost her job as a social worker in our state told me that the women she has had as supervisors were hard to work for, very competitive with other women and highly critical of other women, for no good reason other than petty jealousies. I had a black male nurse with a military backgound who works in emergency rooms confide that he deals with other nurses mentioned one in particular who had a caroline kennedy to the manor born attitude tell refuse to help him move patients but insist that he help her do that. He went on to say that if he had argued with her he would the whole group of nurses would have come down on him for attacking their own but when he suppressed his anger and helped the nurse who would not help him they turned on her instead. These antecdotes are helpful to me because they help me understand why people I have zero respect for like Brown, Kornbluth and Mitchell attack Hillary and fall into the right wing trap. And that is a big issue for me because it along with many other things prevented our country from getting the best candidate. It also explains why we will not see a woman president in our lifetime unless it is Hillary.

  72. Finally, I make no prediction of what the ecomomic future holds for it save to say I do not believe, quick fixes or that obama can weather the storm. Whoever is in power gets credit for a good ecomony and blame for a bad one because it goes to the larger question of how people feel. Yes, it is irrational but on wall street you have one school which analyzes investor behavior in terms of fundamentals, one in terms of charts and one in terms of investor psycology. When it comes to mass behavior the third holds sway. If we go through tough times they will turn on him like a rattle snake. Furthermore, books will be written about the complicity of big media in this hijacking of the process, and I hope the one Brit Hume writes will hit that one out of the park.

  73. 57% 49%As we perhaps learned with Sarah Palin, women are not amused by other women whom they perceive to be unqualified — and it probably isn’t helpful to Kennedy that she has Hillary Clinton’s shoes to fill. Still, for a candidate campaigning (yes, she’s campaigning) so heavily on personal rather than political qualities, this is not the response that one would expect.
    —————————————–
    Nate Silver is an idiot. It is exactly the response you would expect. Media adulation, no record to attack and name recognition. But the more ominious conclusion is this> the American People lack the critical thinking skills to select the best candidate for the job. There is a rational process to this but it seems to elude them especially when the propaganda goes the other way. They are conditioned by American Idol. As someone said we get the kind of leader we deserve and in this case the wealthy interests have exactly what they need- a general who will fire on his own people.

  74. so has ck actually helped Hillary? Does it seem as if the media flack over Hillary becoming sos has died down somewhat and ck’s attempt to steal her senate seat has taken over?

  75. jan–it has helped in the sense that the big media creteans are 100% percent invested in the princess based on the acid test of big media behavior which is: i) is it good for them, and–no less ii) is it bad for the American People. By their own test she is a perfect fit.

    You may argue with the second prong of the test but before you do just realize this is all about their power and pushing the power of the people down whenever it asserts itself in legitimate as opposed to programatic ways they can control because make no mistake this is a power struggle by the elites against the middle class.

    It is obvious that Big Media is angling for a double coronation here and the only way that will happen is if Hillary vacates the seat and the only way that will happen is if she gets sos. But more important than that belive what I said above because it is demonstrably true. Big Media controlled by wealthy business interests IS out to screw the American People and if you evaluate their work from that perspective you will never be disappointed. It is who they are.

  76. At Pumas Unleashed, the 4 Top candidate’s credentials for Senator Hillary Clinton’s senate seat are laid out end to end. They are: Carolyn Maloney, Andrew Cuomo, Kirsten Gillibrand and Caroline Kennedy. The conclusion for Caroline as the eventual pick for Hillary’s seat is made crystal clear at conclusion.

    pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

  77. HELLO EVERYONE. Yes, I’m shouting!!! Long time no see or hear. I’ve moved and I’m miserable. Don’t ever believe going “home” is ever the same. I can’t wait to get the hell outta here. Back to trying to sell another friggin house LOL.

    Good to see this place is still here. I tryied to log on several weeks ago but couldn’t get in.

    Hope everyone’s holidays were good. I’m surviving. Still in denial and still feel horrible about the election.

    Even though Hill is SOS, I still think she should have been POTUS.

  78. Hi all, hope your Christmas was a wonderful one.

    Just thought I’d plant the seed. While we have the great writings of Admin to keep us informed and sometimes agitated, I’d like to remind people that 2010 is so very close.

    Senators, Representatives, Governors and State Reps will be looking to influence you and buy your vote when 11/2010 comes aroud.

    Learn about the insiders in your state, this includes party leaders way down as low as the local,(there is all kinds of political clubs out there. find out which sen/rep is now voting on regulations with you in mind or not, and which local council person has their eye on the state capital.

    don’t be fooled into last minute decisions just before election time.

    and FIGHT BACK now. join like minded groups that are willing to take a stand on your values and what you truly believe is right for you..

    The next candidates are now looking at 2010. so much goes into a run that we don’t see. going public is late in a campaign, usually the campaign is well underway by then. find out the stir in whatever party or group you support, it would be wise if you did.

    just my thoughts for the day.

    Happy New Year all.

  79. debbie, I intend to vote OUT anybody who backstabbed Hillary. I will NEVER forget her treatment. As somebody stated above..Hill was our last chance to see a woman in the oval office (most likely ever) and most definitely in my liftetime. Hill may would make a go of it if Bummer manages to continue to the facade and keep the dance going .. that being said, I still got a gut feeling he’s going to be found out somedoay.

    Burns me to no end to think that he and MEschelle will be squandering our money in Hawaii for their “extended” vacations. Why the hell can’t the go back to his slumlord Chicago.

  80. wbboei Says:

    December 28th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

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    Yes I understand about the power struggles et al. I simply meant that not having Hillary villified on our screens 24/7, at least for a few weeks, was a welcome respite.

  81. I know what you were saying Jan and I was just using your correct observation as a point of departure for further discussion–namely our descent from democracy into plutocracy and the disenfranchisement of the Americian People. I am less morbid about the situation however than puma and I would caution anyone against the mistaken assumption that the future will be a straight line projection. I do not believe even big media can turn chicken shit into chicken salad, and if as eveyone says tough times are ahead the critical mass of the American people will jump ship on him if things get rough. I also believe big media is going down, and if you plotted this election on a graph this election is the high water mark. Nobody in their right mind listens to a liar indefinitely and they will have to lie to cover his ass. But the larger tragedy is we need someone who will represent the American People and if we do not get that and things get bad enough new options will materialize. That is the law of nature-human and otherwise.

  82. A senior military officer who won the congressional medal of honor in France in World War I, was a favorite of Black Jack Perhing, and was called upon to lead men into battle again in World War II made a telling observation about the difference between the two succeeding generations. The troops he commanded in WWI were deferential to authority and believed in county. The troops he commanded in WWII were more cynical and less willing to defer. There attitiude was I dont care that you have the bars I will follow you but you had better know how to lead. Enlisted men fragged officers who could not lead, and most of the stories were suppressed–but we talked about them at Annapolis, since we produced not only Naval Officers but Marines. What I am trying to say is there has been a steady decline in the willingnes of our people to simply defer to authority in situations of extremis. If the leadership does not produce they are toast and those who continue to defend them are not listened to when there is a credible option. This is what Bambi has got to worry about. The effects of hopium are not lasting. Bush has mined that field and people will react negative much faster. The coutry is in a strange mood and it will get stanger in my opinion.

  83. wbboei said: Big Media controlled by wealthy business interests IS out to screw the American People and if you evaluate their work from that perspective you will never be disappointed.
    ===============

    That sounds like waht I’ve concluded this year. Whenever someone turns up who is effective, sincere, and really for the common people — the media destroys them: Clintons, Gore, Goldwater, McCain/Palin. Regardless of ideology.

  84. It is so clear, so clear. In any organizational setting it is axiomatic that you must always underpromise and overdeliever. Bambi has done the exact office and his fly me to the moon coronation will exacerbate the problem. The hopium wafting though the air at this moment is a direct result of the overpromise. People who respond to that will grow very cynical when he fails to promise what he delivered if not specifically then surely by implication. If things deteriorate economically hes got trouble and his claims that it is all Bushs fault will fall on deaf ears. This is not the Roosevelt era, and apres the hopium la deluge.

  85. I think what bothers and scares me most is having a child with absolutely no leadership experience taking the biggest job in the land.

    And the media doesn’t see this as a problem???

  86. wbboei siad: I also believe big media is going down, and if you plotted this election on a graph this election is the high water mark.
    ===================

    Unfortuantely it is the giants who are going down first: those with infrastructure and capital to do soem real research. Still hopefully they will all go down eventually. Leaving websites and personal credibility….

  87. You dont have to be a mind reader to know what his advisors are telling him. They are make it a cecil b de mille production, put it in a historical context with Lincoln, Illionios, the freedom train broadcast it around the world and they will love it. And I can hear them telling him really stupid stuff like we need to build up a reservoir of good will now because the task of govenment will chip away at it. But again he is overpromising and cannot meet the expectations. And what he is promising is measured not by precise words but by the feelings this engenders. Therefore the subsequent qualifiers, rome wasn t built in a day,we need to tamp down expectations will be met with a quisical what the fuck look. You dont lead people this far astry and not pay the price sooner or later. In the end the equation will balance. The highest high is coutered by the lowest low–regardless of bush.

  88. Unfortuantely it is the giants who are going down first: those with infrastructure and capital to do soem real research. Still hopefully they will all go down eventually. Leaving websites and personal credibility….
    ———————————–
    turndown you are right again. It is about truth and the economies of scale. The scale of manufacturing has gone down–it does not take a huge factory any more. The scale of violence has gone down–it doesnt take an army anymore–it can be done by a single terrorist. And it does not take the NYT, WaPo, with their elitist bias, contempt for the American people to tell us what to think. Websites that do not presume to tell us what to think but give us the facts, and a fair sense of the equities will succeed them. Great reporters like Admin (the best of the best) Kass, and others we have named will be sought after and the make it up as we go crowd will go the way of the dinosaur or revert to their true calling which is either fiction or propanda. Yes, turndown your are right–it just is not happening fast enough for me. Life is not infinitie and neither is patience.

  89. The one thing I know for sure is I love admin and I love all of you and that is perhaps the only really good thought I have for the new year.

  90. wbboei Says:
    December 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
    The one thing I know for sure is I love admin and I love all of you and that is perhaps the only really good thought I have for the new year.
    ===============

    Agreed!!!!

  91. The fact that admin has kept this site as “Hillary is 44″…says it all for me. He/She/They alone recognize the true leader here, the rightful heir to the throne as well as the puppet king who has already damaged democracy as we once knew it.

  92. I love all you guys and gals too! And our Admin.

    As the year ends I’m grateful for many things .. the friendships I found here are one of the bright spots.

    {{{{{{{{{{to all Hillis44}}}}}}

    Our super resilient Hillary of course bounces back, takes a licking and keeps on ticking. She’ll be wonderful in her new post and she’ll work her ass off. Reports already that she is busting at the seams to get everything all in order and she’ll be the policy wonk that we know and love. Since Hill is part of his “team” now I know I should not be so negative .. but I can’t help it
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  93. Thanks everyone for your help. I have tried all of the above advice with no luck. I already had created a second email account for this site when I had an earlier problem. I don’t want to open any more accounts….I can’t even remember them. I may just give up posting and continue to read only.

  94. There is a powerful piece by Michael Goodwin of the New York Daily News on the “candidacy” of Caroline. The News is a bus/subway paper and gets wide circulation among regular New Yorkers, so its effect on the public perception of this idiocy could be really pervasive. Let’s hope so. Let us also hope that our media friends trying to box Patterson in just has the opposite effect. Only in times like these do truly outlandish scenarios become the stuff of serious media attention. In ordinary circumstances this Caroline/Senate business would be dismissed as delusional right off the bat. What the hell has gotten into this country?

    Try this: h t t p://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/1/28/2008-12-28_say_goodnight_caroline_how_jfks_daughter.html

  95. Strikes me that Valerie Jarrett could very well be the lynchpin in this whole sad Blago saga. She has been inside the Illinois doings for a long time and surely knows much more about where the skeletons are buried than does Rham or even Precious. If Fitz can get a valid accusation leveled against her and flip her then there will be hell to pay for the whole Obama apparatus and even our Beloved Leader himself. She knows so much that she might be insulated from being hurled under the bus, making her a formidable witness if this all starts to break apart. It could happen…
    Then what? We get Biden. God Almighty what a pyrrhic victory

  96. Yes folks, this vocal, rambunctious New Yorker has a PUMA prowl and a websitebehind her to show the NY Governor that none other than a former rabid Clinton supporter should have the seat that Hillary is vacating in January. If you don’t remember Harriet “Obama is an ‘inadequate black male'”

    h* t t p : / / news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/28/forget-caroline-harriet-for-ny-senator/
    Comment box at the bottom. Wants some kind of registration but no password?

  97. These are links at NY Daily and at h*ttp://pumaresponders.blogspot.com

    The mind of Caroline Kennedy
    Pols give Caroline hard time
    Bloomberg defends Caroline Kennedy
    Gonzalez: Remember, Gov, it’s up to you
    Caroline seeks Senate seat support from labor leaders
    Bring on Caroline – I can beat her, says Pete King
    If this is all it takes to merit a Senate seat, Gov. Paterson might as well host a reality television show in picking Hillary Clinton’s successor. At the very least, this would bring in advertising revenue – and therefore much more than Caroline Kennedy has offered New Yorkers thus far.
    h*ttp://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/23/2008-12-23_caroline_kennedy_gives_inadequate_answer.html
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    h*ttp://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/28/2008-12-28_say_goodnight_caroline_how_jfks_daughter.html
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    h*ttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/27/2008-12-27_caroline_kennedy_tells_daily_news_i_woul.html#community
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