The Shame Of The Democratic Left, Part III

The Democratic Left, and yes, Gay-American leaders, threw Gay-Americans under the bus this past year in order to worship at the unworthy Barack Obama’s altar. Now the Democratic Left and Gay-American leaders are whining that Obama has stabbed them in the back.

Not once during the primaries nor during the general election did these leaders hold Obama to account. Not once did these leaders threaten to withhold votes the only language political thugs like Obama understand. Now they are whining.

Barack Obama has indeed stabbed Gay-Americans in the back. Barack Obama can’t be trusted… by friend nor foe… Obama simply can’t be trusted. But the very late protests by the Democratic Left are whines from hypocrites.

One of the issues on which we prominently opposed Obama was the issue of gay rights. We prophetically wrote:

Gay-Americans must realize that Obama has gay-bashed in the past. If it comes down to getting votes from evangelical voters, socially conservative African-Americans or any constitutency group – Obama will betray Gay-Americans:

Now gay leaders and the Democratic Left are whining that Obama is not being nice. Where were these leaders when it counted? Hypocrites. Gay-Americans – Black Gay Americans too – will be the ones hurt because the so-called gay leadership and the Democratic Left sold them out.

The hypocrites are whining because, as we wrote, Obama sold Gay-Americans out in order to court evangelicals.

Barack Obama’s choice of a prominent evangelical minister to perform the invocation at his inauguration is a conciliatory gesture toward social conservatives who opposed him in November, but it is drawing fierce challenges from a gay rights movement that – in the wake of a gay marriage ban in California – is looking for a fight.

Rick Warren, the senior pastor of Saddleback Church in southern California, opposes abortion rights but has taken more liberal stances on the government role in fighting poverty, and backed away from other evangelicals’ staunch support for economic conservatism. But it’s his support for the California constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage that drew the most heated criticism from Democrats Wednesday.

“Your invitation to Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration is a genuine blow to LGBT Americans,” the president of Human Rights Campaign, Joe Solomonese, wrote Obama Wednesday. “[W]e feel a deep level of disrespect when one of architects and promoters of an anti-gay agenda is given the prominence and the pulpit of your historic nomination.”

Hypocrites or fools.

Gay-American leaders protesting now, are either hypocrites or fools. Gay-American leaders well knew that when Obama needed to win the South Carolina primary Obama appealed to the anti-gay prejudices of South Carolina African-Americans. It wasn’t just Donnie McClurkin. It was also Mary Mary, and Hezekiah Walker. Before that gay-bashing tour there was Obama’s long history of support for virulent gay-bashers such as Reverend James Meeks. And as we noted, Obama has never even bothered to march in a Gay-Pride day parade. Did we mention the snub of San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom?

These same hypocrite/fools knew that Obama surrounded himself with homophobes such as the repugnant Sam Nunn.

These same hypocrite/fools also knew that the Proposition 8 (Gay Marriage Ban) proponents were using Obama’s anti gay-marriage words in their literature and using Obama’s anti gay-marriage words in their automatic phone calls – particularly targeting African-Americans. Yet these hypocrite/fools did not demand that Obama personally campaign prominently against Proposition 8. On election day most California African-American voters celebrated by denying Gay-Americans a basic civil right and applauding ugly prejudice.

The Democratic Left was silent. The Democratic Left blamed evangelicals but took no responsibility. The Democratic Left absolved Obama.

“It’s a huge mistake,” said California gay rights activist Rick Jacobs, who chairs the state’s Courage Campaign. “He’s really the wrong person to lead the president into office.

“Can you imagine if he had a man of God doing the invocation who had deliberately said that Jews are not going to be saved and therefore should be excluded from what’s going on in America? People would be up in arms,” he said. [snip]

“His presence on the inauguration stand is a slap in the faces of the millions of GLBT voters who so enthusiastically supported him,” Naff wrote, referring to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people. “This tone-deafness to our concerns must not be tolerated. We have just endured eight years of endless assaults on our dignity and equality from a president beholden to bigoted conservative Christians. The election was supposed to have ended that era. It appears otherwise.”

Obama can’t be trusted these fools are discovering only now. Now more hypocrites/fools are chiming in. They are denouncing Obama now that it does not matter. Where were these hypocrites/fools when it mattered?

In the same interview, he [Rick Warren] compared the “redefiniton of a marrige” to include gay marriage to legitimizing incest, child abuse, and polygamy.

The Democratic Left does not care about “gonadal politics”. The Democratic Left applauded the sexism and misogyny during the primaries against Hillary Clinton and during the general election against Sarah Palin. The Democratic Left will not bat an eyelash when Gay-Americans are thrown under the Obama bus.

President-elect Barack Obama will not move for months, and perhaps not until 2010, to ask Congress to end the military’s decades-old ban on open homosexuals in the ranks, two people who have advised the Obama transition team on this issue say.

Repealing the ban was an Obama campaign promise. However, Mr. Obama first wants to confer with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and his new political appointees at the Pentagon to reach a consensus and then present legislation to Congress, the advisers said.

Gay-American leaders will sell out Gay-Americans in order to support Barack Obama. Hypocrites and fools.

Gay-American leaders will also make every excuse possible as Obama refuses to pass a federal civil unions bill, let alone a federal gay-marriage bill.

The Democratic Left will sell every principle out in order to whoreship Obama.

The Democratic Left is increasingly proving itself to be a misogynistic anti-gay coalition. The words are “progressive”. The actions contradict the words. We know actions speak louder than words.

The Democratic Left will sell Gay-Americans out. Where is Caroline Kennedy on Gay Rights issues? Has anyone bothered to ask? Has anyone on the Democratic Left demanded that New York State keep its promises?

After a pledge from New York Democratic leaders that their party would legalize same-sex marriage if they won control of the State Senate this year, money from gay rights supporters poured in from across the country, helping cinch a Democratic victory.

But now, party leaders have sent strong signals that they may not take up the issue during the 2009 legislative session. Some of them suggest it may be wise to wait until 2011 before considering it, in hopes that Democrats can pick up more Senate seats and Gov. David A. Paterson, a strong backer of gay rights, would then be safely into a second term.

Hypocrites and/or Fools. Democratic elected officials will continue to take their money and votes but still come up with the excuse that they need even more money and more votes to get even bigger majorities. Majorities they do nothing with when they have them.

Democrats have majority control of the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate and the White House but all they will come up with is excuses. Democrats have majority control of the New York Senate and the New York Assembly and there is a Democratic Governor but all they come up with is excuses and Caroline Kennedy.

Since when are fixing the economy and civil rights mutually exclusive?” said Daniel J. O’Donnell, an assemblyman from the Upper West Side who led the push for the bill in the Assembly.

Mr. O’Donnell added that expectations are high in the gay community that New York will be able to deliver the movement’s next victory. “The leadership of the Senate and others in our community collected a lot of money from a lot of people with the promise — spoken and unspoken — that if the Democrats won the Senate, they would take a vote,” he said.

Mr. O’Donnell plans to introduce a bill relatively early in the 2009 session, setting up a possible confrontation with the Senate.

Daniel J. O’Donnell is not a hypocrite or an Obama whoreshiping fool. O’Donnell is representing his constituents.

Only now are white liberals beginning to see an ugly side of the African-American church. But these white liberals still will not see let alone condemn how Obama exploited anti-gay prejudice. These white liberals will make excuses for the ugliness in the same way they excused the ugliness of Jeremiah Wright’s “God Damn America” remarks. The Democratic Left has a soft bigotry towards African-Americans even if that bigotry sacrifices the rights and self-respect of African-American-Gay-Americans.

THE attitude of white, liberal Hollywood toward African- American churches has long been one of almost participatory respect. [snip]

It was only recently that the A-list discovered that this love is unrequited. Last month, Proposition 8 passed, making gay marriage illegal in California, and the demographic that lent insult to injury was the state’s African-American voters.

They came to the polls in record numbers to support Barack Obama, and they brought with them a fiercely held and enduring antipathy toward homosexuality: 7 in 10 blacks voted in support of traditional marriage. Whether that was the game-changer or not is a question for near-constant debate. Many gay activists have begun quietly to suggest that had Hillary Clinton been the Democratic nominee, Prop 8 would not have passed.

Hypocrites and fools. The problem is not the black church it is how Obama exploited for his political benefit African-American anti-gay prejudice while making a show at white liberal venues of his tolerance. It was a flim-flam performance and the Democratic Left ignored it. Now Gay-Americans, including Black Gay-Americans, are paying for the Obama exploited bigotry.

“It’s their churches,” somebody whispered to one of us not long after the election; “It’s their Christianity,” someone else hissed, rolling her eyes. Apparently the religion espoused by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is now the enemy, at least among the smart set, and if this sounds like a regional issue, it’s not. [snip]

“At some point in our lifetime,” said George Clooney, “gay marriage won’t be an issue, and everyone who stood against this civil right will look as outdated as George Wallace standing on the school steps keeping James Hood from entering the University of Alabama because he was black.”

To the opponents of Proposition 8, this kind of analogy is a rallying cry; but as white Hollywood has recently discovered, to the blacks who voted for the measure, it’s galling. Comparing the infringement on civil rights that gays are experiencing to that suffered by black Americans is to begin a game of “top my oppression” that you’re not going to win. The struggle for equality — beginning with freedom from human bondage (see: references to the book of Exodus at the Gospel Brunch) — has been so central to African-American identity that many blacks find homosexual claims of a commensurate level of injustice frivolous, and even offensive.

Furthermore — and perhaps even more painfully for those of us who support gay marriage and all that it represents — Christian teaching on marriage is not the only reason so many blacks supported Proposition 8. Although it has come as a shocking realization to many in this community, a host of sociological studies confirm that many blacks feel a significant aversion to homosexuality itself, finding it morally and sexually repugnant.

White Liberal Intellectuals like Hendrik Hertzberg played the “top my oppression” game by saying black oppression was much worse than misogyny therefore Hillary vs. Obama meant Obama should win. Hertzberg ignored Black women and the suffering of Shirley Chisholm who stated she suffered more as a woman than as an African-American. The Democratic Left is an increasingly misogynistic anti-gay coalition.

Black Gay-Americans will suffer for the Obama exploitation of prejudice. The Democratic Left stood silently as Obama exploited prejudice.

Obama continues to exploit anti-gay prejudice.

The Democratic Left is silent, occasionally whining, in shame.

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144 thoughts on “The Shame Of The Democratic Left, Part III

  1. Barack Obama can’t be trusted… by friend nor foe… Obama simply can’t be trusted.

    Admin: Another dynamite article. You have been very prophetic.

  2. Admin,

    very timely and well documented!

    The question should be “who hasn’t this charleton stabbed with a knife/thrown under the bus. The list keeps growing.

  3. Today, in Philly, I saw one a rare McCain bumper sticker on a lamp post.

    today in NJ, pasted on a stop sign, was a “NOBAMA” bumper sticker. The resistance will grow.

  4. I still am shaking my head at the fact that the big big backer of the “one man, one woman marriage act” – Prop 8 – was……wait for it……..The Mormon Church!!!

  5. I will be damned if I know how you get through public life in a competive political system without a core set of values. Granted, if you have core values, and you live by them you will have friends and enemies. But at least you know who you are and what you stand for. Otherwise everything is situational and the precedents kill you. It seems to me that is something that is sadly lacking in Obama, and because of it he does not know who he is. It makes it very difficult to be consistent.
    The Illinois Combine is not a competitive political system, which is perhaps why he could get away with it there. The system he is in now however does not afford him that luxury.

  6. I would love to make and distribute a new bumper sticker to be placed every where imaginable in america

    something like these ideas, feel free to come up with your own and add to the list:

    I want my country back

    HELP TAKE AMERICA BACK

    PVET EM B4 U VOTE EM

    oliticians- keep em honest

    AND I LIKE WHAT RGB JUST WROTE ” THE RESISTANCE WILL GROW” GREAT BUMPER STICKER MATERIAL THERE! 😉

  7. I would love to make and distribute a new bumper sticker to be placed every where imaginable in america

    something like these ideas, feel free to come up with your own and add to the list:

    I want my country back

    HELP TAKE AMERICA BACK

    PVET EM B4 U VOTE EM

    Politicians- keep em honest

    AND I LIKE WHAT RGB JUST WROTE ” THE RESISTANCE WILL GROW” GREAT BUMPER STICKER MATERIAL THERE! 😉

  8. I would love to make and distribute a new bumper sticker to be placed every where imaginable in america

    something like these ideas, feel free to come up with your own and add to the list:

    I want my country back

    HELP TAKE AMERICA BACK

    VET EM B4 U VOTE EM

    Politicians- keep em honest

    AND I LIKE WHAT RGB JUST WROTE ” THE RESISTANCE WILL GROW”
    GREAT BUMPER STICKER MATERIAL THERE! 😉

  9. I would love to make and distribute a new bumper sticker to be placed every where imaginable in america

    something like these ideas, feel free to come up with your own and add to the list:

    I want my country back

    HELP TAKE AMERICA BACK

    VET EM B4 U VOTE EM

    Politicians- keep em honest

    AND I LIKE WHAT RGB JUST WROTE ” THE RESISTANCE WILL GROW”
    GREAT BUMPER STICKER MATERIAL THERE!

    [ ARRRRRRGHH THIS COMMENT WENT TO SPAM 3 TIMES DUE TO A SMILEY FACE!!!]

  10. JanH Says:

    December 18th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
    LOL…djia…

    why are our smiley faces being picked on???
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    Whenever I use one, the spam filter catches it. The spam filter likes smiley and evil faces.

  11. December 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
    wbboei Says:

    I will be damned if I know how you get through public life in a competive political system without a core set of values. Granted, if you have core values, and you live by them you will have friends and enemies. But at least you know who you are and what you stand for. Otherwise everything is situational and the precedents kill you. It seems to me that is something that is sadly lacking in Obama, and because of it he does not know who he is. It makes it very difficult to be consistent.
    The Illinois Combine is not a competitive political system, which is perhaps why he could get away with it there. The system he is in now however does not afford him that luxury.
    * * * * * * * *
    wbboei:

    The Illinois political system is competitive on the surface with “social wedge issues” – gay/civil rights, guns, choice. These so called “values” have been effectively used by both sides to distract citizens so that both parties and their equally entrenched interests can rob us blind – it’s a clever sleight of hand and business as usual here in Illinois.

    I have felt for years that we must stop fighting with each other about these issues! We have to respect each other’s views and as a nation, refocus on what gives taxpayers value and makes all real progress possible: good government.

  12. Oops. Re-reading, need to issue a small clarification: I don’t mean that government is the only source of progress. Not at all. However, only good government (as opposed to corrupt governement) is in the position to support national progress. I hope that makes sense. You have only to look at corrupt third world nations – or Illinois education – to make that case.

  13. Britt Hume commenting on Bill and Hill and his donor list an how much was raised.He forgot to mention the fact that the money goes to fight hunger and aids world wide.Glad he and Colmes are leaving Fox but like all bad news they will be popping up elsewhere.
    Sharpton having lunch with CK and he declared her ready and qualified for NY senate seat.Please somebody give this perennial freeloader a job. Hint: Wast Management perhaps?

  14. How difficult is it to have “good government” at all? So much subterfuge from allies and opposition. So many lies, attacks and counterattacks. I’m getting so very cynical that any government out there has, in the last 10 years, or will, in the future, have an agenda that is first for the people every time. It’s cutthroat politics and one-upsmanship in the worst possible way. Destroying honest characters and whitewashing dishonest ones, sacrificing important issues and betrayal at it’s worst.

    Without an honest media, one that doesn’t filter the news, nothing will change. Sites like Hillary is 44 and posters like all of you MUST survive long enough to spread the truth no matter what!

    Sorry for the rant.

  15. JanH: AMEN!!!!!!!!!
    Admin, you’re on a roll with today’s bad news – as for your question about “hypocrits or fools?” I say they’re BOTH!

  16. As far as Bill Clinton’s donors, who are BO’s donors? We know that there were a lot of foreign donors. Almost a billion dollars. Where did all that money come from? Hmmmmm……………..

  17. birdgal,

    If the naysayers are trying to make a mountain out of conflict of issue donors to Bill’s worthy foundation, i.e. foreign countries, then what does that say about Obama’s “connection” or “network” of terrorist/racist friends?

  18. birdgal, the question is not only where it came from, but just how he spent it. I believe it was spent on payola to stuff ballot boxes accross the U.S. and of coarse bribes!

  19. wbboei:

    The Illinois political system is competitive on the surface with “social wedge issues” – gay/civil rights, guns, choice. These so called “values” have been effectively used by both sides to distract citizens so that both parties and their equally entrenched interests can rob us blind – it’s a clever sleight of hand and business as usual here in Illinois.

    I have felt for years that we must stop fighting with each other about these issues! We have to respect each other’s views and as a nation, refocus on what gives taxpayers value and makes all real progress possible: good government.
    ==================

    Hello Sarah Palin! :-)))

    (Ref “Palin governs from the center” at USA Today in Sept.)

  20. have read through most of the CK chatter, but none have stated what to me is the obvious. CK makes her debutant entrance at the 2008 DNC convention introducing uncle teddy, is handed the NY senate seat, groomed for 6-7 years and surprise-surprise.. CK POTUS 2016. sound familiar?

    hope the repugs have something up their sleeves, cause it’s gonna happen!

  21. after putting his foot in his mouth over and over again during the campaign, Sharpton is debasing himself in any and every way he possibly can to get back in the good books of the false messiah.

  22. CNN is trying to push back on the anti-Warren sh*t storm. “Obama: Choice of Warren reflects diversity of ideas”…” Warren himself is working to contain the fallout from his support for California’s Proposition 8. In an interview set to air this week, he denied that his stand against same-sex marriage meant he was homophobic.
    “Of course not. I have always treated them with respect,” he said. “When they come and wanna talk to me, I talk to ’em. When the protesters came, we served them water and doughnuts.”
    **************
    I have always treated “THEM” with respect…give me a fu**ing break…What if he had said ..”I am not racist, I have always treated THEM with respect.

  23. Dana Bash did a piece on Bill Clinton and his donors. It was mentioned on The Situation Room and Lou Dobbs. Is there any discussion anywhere about BO’s donors?

    The Clintons are always a fall back for the media to divert attention aren’t they?

  24. alcina Says:

    December 18th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

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    I thought the same thing, but back in February, when TK came in support of BO.

  25. birdgal

    it’s all pretty clear. CK doesn’t need experience (like BO) doesn’t have to work at anything (like BO) doesn’t have to take a stand, or show up to vote (like BO) will have the adoration of the MSM (like BO) writes a couple books (like BO) and has celebrity american idol status (like BO). the comparisons are limitless.

  26. The Illinois political system is competitive on the surface with “social wedge issues” – gay/civil rights, guns, choice. These so called “values” have been effectively used by both sides to distract citizens so that both parties and their equally entrenched interests can rob us blind – it’s a clever sleight of hand and business as usual here in Illinois.

    I have felt for years that we must stop fighting with each other about these issues! We have to respect each other’s views and as a nation, refocus on what gives taxpayers value and makes all real progress possible: good government.
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    Illinois: correct. Thanks for the clarification.

  27. I would love for her to have a real SOS job, but I don’t trust BO, and with CK wanting her spot, I think she needs to rethink leaving her senate seat!

  28. To sum up the state of corruption in the government / media “interplex”, as extruded from the various themes above: US aristocracy has purchased a lovely system of “govenment” and the “media”, who all follow each other around telling each other how nice their farts smell; we are supposed to take comfort that this “government” is working for The Publick Goode, and that this Fourth Estate is ever vigilant in exposing naughtiness; we are not to be let on to the Big Truth that this is a nice little bed time story, hiding the fact that rich people buy and get whatever they want.

    Yay, Democracy.
    Yay, America.

  29. # confloyd Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    I heard on Fox that these donors of Bill’s may dereal her SOS spot. We can only hope!
    &&&&&&&&

    If it’s derailed, she won’t quit. Caroline is then going to have to evict Clinton from her seat by forcible removal from office by some trumped up charge.

    But are they willing to get blood on their hands just for this trophy? I mean, it’s just for show.

    “Caroline, do tell, how is that “Senate thing” going?”
    CK: “It’s simply mahvelous”.

  30. Bill’s donors aren’t even that controversial, for God’s sake. Fox is full of crap about the Clintons, as usual. The Obama people already saw the list, and it obviously wasn’t a big deal to them.

  31. “The Obama people already saw the list, and it obviously wasn’t a big deal to them.”

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    Or maybe they are letting the media do the dirty work for them.

  32. JanH Says:

    December 18th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
    LOL…djia…

    why are our smiley faces being picked on???
    ______________________

    why is everyone always pickin on me!! LMAO “GRIN”

  33. THANK YOU SO MUCH MISSUS LOWSBOROUGH – GOODBY
    (Cole Porter, 1934)
    Fred Astaire

    WITH ENDLESS APOLOGIES TO COLE PORTER

    Ms. Caroline Kennedy Sclossberg gives weekends
    and her weekends are not a success,
    but she asks you so often
    you finally soften
    and end by answering “Yes.”
    When I left Ms. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg
    The letter I wrote was polite
    But it would have been bliss
    Had I dared write her this,
    The letter I wanted to write:

    Refrain
    Thank you so much, Ms. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg,
    Thank you so much.
    Thank you so much for that infinite weekend with you.
    Thank you a lot, Ms. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg,
    Thank you a lot,

    And don’t be surprised if you suddenly should be quietly shot
    For the clinging perfume
    And that damp little room,
    For those cocktails so hot
    And the bath that was not,
    For those guests so amusing and mentally bracing
    Who talked about racing and racing and racing,
    For the ptomaine I got from your famous tin salmon,
    For the fortune I lost when you taught me backgammon,
    For those mornings I spent with your dear but deaf mother,
    For those evenings I passed with that bounder, your uncle,
    And for making me swear to myself there and then
    Never to go for a weekend again.

    Thank you so much, Ms. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg,
    Thank you, thank you so much.

  34. Records show Caroline Kennedy failed to cast her vote many times since 1988

    By ERIN EINHORN and DAVID SALTONSTALL
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

    Updated Thursday, December 18th 2008, 8:07 PM

    Caroline Kennedy has her sights on being the senator from New York, but hasn’t voted much here since she registered in 1988. Egan-Chin/News

    Caroline Kennedy has her sights on being the senator from New York, but hasn’t voted much here since she registered in 1988.
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    Caroline Kennedy wants to be the next senator from New York, but her voting record is already spotty, The Daily News has found.

    City Board of Elections records show Kennedy failed to vote in many elections since she last registered in the city in 1988 – including votes for the Senate seat she hopes to fill, and numerous Democratic face-offs for mayor.

    “It doesn’t speak to a deep-felt commitment to the electoral process,” Baruch College political scientist Doug Muzzio said when told of Kennedy’s ballot breakdowns.

    Records show Kennedy never pulled the lever for any of her fellow Democrats in city primary races for mayor in 1989, 1993 and 1997 and 2005, when Republicans won three out of four.

    She was also AWOL for the primary and general elections in 1994, when Sen. Patrick Moynihan was running for re-election to the seat Kennedy hopes to hold.

    Aides to Kennedy – who Thursday said she was running in part because this is no time to “sit out” – conceded Thursday night that at times the daughter of the late president has done just that.

    SNIP

    “I come at this as a mother, as a lawyer, as an author as an education advocate and from a family that really has spent generations in public service,” she said with Sharpton at her side outside of Sylvia’s, Harlem’s famed soul-food mecca.

    Inside, the two shared a lunch of grilled chicken and collared greens at the same table where Sharpton and Obama dined in November 2007 – a meeting that was key to his presidential win, Sharpton joked with Kennedy.

    “If she believes that,” Sharpton quipped, “then I got some other things I can sell her in Harlem.”

    SNIP

    Gov. Paterson has sole authority to fill Clinton’s seat, a job Attorney General Andrew Cuomo also is seriously considering. Paterson played coy Thursday when asked about Cuomo.

    “We have talked about the Senate,” Paterson said of his attorney general. “Our conversations, as are the conversations with anyone else, are private.”

    Mayor Bloomberg also dodged when asked about his staff’s effort to promote Kennedy’s candidacy.

    “It’s not my call,” he told Barbara Walters on “The View.” “If it was my call, I know exactly \[who I’d pick\],” he added without elaborating.

    Kennedy’s more immediate problem may be explaining her voting record.

    Records show she also took a pass on the 2002 gubernatorial primary and general, when Democrat Carl McCall took on incumbent Republican George Pataki.

    Aides Thursday said that prior to 1988, she was registered in Massachusetts while a student at Harvard University. She later switched her voting address to her mother’s old apartment on 5th Ave., ,b>but apparently fell off the rolls completely sometime in the 1980s.

    When she went re-register in 1988 at her new Park Ave. home, she filled in, “1984?, when asked the year she was last registered.

    n y d a i l y n e w s . c o m / news/politics/2008/12/18/2008-12-18_records_show_caroline_kennedy_failed_to_.html

  35. JanH, If Hillary’s nomination is derailed now, it would be a huge embarrassment to BO. The names were released to prove the Clintons have nothing to hide, nothwithstanding the MSM’s meme to the contrary.

    I encourage everyone here to read the list of donors. It really is much ado about nothing.

  36. Well, since she never votes and BO votes ” neutral” isn’t that the same. They are a match made in Heaven or is that Hell.

  37. Paula,

    I agree. It won’t stop the media from trying to embarass the Clintons in any way they can though.

    wbboei commented in the last thread about comedians like Leno et al…
    To me the comedians are the media. Their attempts to come across as knowledgeable are sadly incompetent.

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    wbboei,

    LMAO! It won’t be long before we will be able to put out the “Greatest Hits of this Political Season” Album! It should go #1 on the Billboard Charts pretty quickly…lol…

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  38. I am sorry to post this because the writer is such a disreputable human being but the subject matter is relevant, and will make it harder for Teddy to do a backroom deal. Therefore I offer it for the limited purpose of demonstrating that and do not vouch for the writer. He is mentally challeged. Cant even get his syntax right. This is not a replacement situation. Hillary is irreplaceable. And even if she were not no Kennedy could do it. The proper terminology is fill the vacancy created by Senator Clintons elevation to Secretary of State. But that is not in the vocabulary of an ignoramus like Goodwin/
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    Time to open up: Caroline Kennedy and other wanna-be senators should go public By Michael Goodwin
    Tuesday, December 16th 2008, 8:25 PM

    Now that Caroline Kennedy has told him she wants to replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate, Gov. Paterson has a headache to go with the long list of those who want the political plum. But Paterson also inherits an opportunity.

    His challenge is to make sure his choice is both in the best interests of New York and widely viewed as such. The way to do that is to follow an open process that would set an example for other states. Instead of using a secretive, back-room deal that smacks of old-time corruption, Paterson should throw open the doors to let the public participate.

    Although not an election, a public process could involve forums and even debates among candidates. That way, Paterson would have a better idea of their comparative strengths and New Yorkers would be able to voice informed opinions. And it wouldn’t cost the state a penny because civic and educational groups would scramble to hold these unofficial candidate events.

    If Paterson needs inspiration for what not to do, he can look to Illinois and Delaware, where Senate seats held by Barack Obama and Joe Biden are being filled by insider dealing.

    Biden, who simultaneously was reelected to the Senate while winning the vice presidency, helped engineer an unseemly deal in Delaware. He wanted his son Beau, state attorney general, to get the seat Papa Biden has held since 1973, but Beau Biden admirably turned down an appointment, saying he wanted to complete his Iraq tour with the Army National Guard.

    So Democratic Gov. Ruth Ann Minner did the next best slippery thing, appointing Papa Biden’s longtime chief of staff and personal friend, Edward Kaufman, who promptly announced he would serve two years in the Senate, then retire. The expectation is that Beau Biden will run in the election to fill the seat in 2010.

    It seems the Kennedys aren’t alone in viewing a Senate seat as a family heirloom.

    The astonishing allegations over filling Obama’s old seat, with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich arrested for, among other things, planning to auction off the seat, are well known. What isn’t so well known is that direct election of U.S. senators, established by the 17th Amendment in 1913, came as a reform after earlier auction scams.

    One of the most notorious cases involved a crooked senator from Illinois. There’s a shock.

    Under the framers’ plan, senators were elected by state legislatures, but by the late 19th century, charges of vote-buying, deal-making and rotten representation were routine.

    Crusading reporters revealed the Senate as a cushy special-interest club populated by millionaires. Washington’s Embassy Row, a glorious collection of mansions, was once mostly the homes of senators handsomely paid for doing the bidding of corporations, according to a Senate historian.

    But a pushy pol from Illinois called the “Blond Boss” spoiled the greed party by going too far. William Lorimer, a Brit by way of Chicago, served seven terms in Congress before persuading the legislature to send him to the Senate in 1909. According to a 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article, Lorimer believed “it is no crime to cheat the law of its prey if that prey happens to be a friend.”

    Before long, first one lawmaker, then others admitted to taking bribes to support him. The case caused such a stink that fellow Republican President Theodore Roosevelt threatened to skip a local GOP banquet if Lorimer attended. After evidence showed that upward of $100,000 had been paid in bribes, the Senate voted to overturn Lorimer’s election.

    The one flaw in the 17th Amendment is that it allows governors, if their legislatures authorize it, to make temporary Senate appointments. Blagojevich, like the Illinois Legislature nearly 100 years ago, was exploiting that power when caught on a federal wiretap boasting, “I’ve got this thing and it’s [expletive] golden,” meaning the power to appoint. “I’m just not giving it up for [expletive] nothing.”

    So far, New York is lucky. The worst that has been said about filling Clinton’s seat is that Kennedy is trading on her name to get a job others deserve. But we can find out who deserves it.

    Let the candidates come forward and tell New Yorkers why they should be the one. Then Paterson can do his duty and pick the best.

    mgoodwin@nydailynews.com

  39. Palin Says No To Pay Raise

    December 18, 2008 6:19 PM

    It has been a while since the name Sarah Palin popped up. But it did today…the AP reporting that the Alaskan Governor is saying no to a proposed pay raise. The Alaskan legislature is considering upping her pay from $125,000 to $150,000, but the governor says now is not the time for the bump. Her spokesman saying, “Her view is, it’s just not appropriate to accept a pay raise in the middle of the term.”

  40. BO votes Present
    CK votes Absent

    that’s some leadership i tell ya..LMAO!!!
    ——————————————-
    Dija:

    No man is safe when Congress is in session.–Mark Twain

    On the other hand, if Congress is in session and they are mia (CK), or abstain (BO) then I guess we are safe–unless there is some legitimate need to pass legislation. In that case you begin to wonder why we pay them a salary.

  41. Records show Kennedy never pulled the lever for any of her fellow Democrats in city primary races for mayor in 1989, 1993 and 1997 and 2005, when Republicans won three out of four.
    ———————————————————-
    noblesse oblige/

  42. I guess ABC is the only one who thought this AP story “DESERVED” publishing

    Impeachment Drive Slowed Against Illinois Governor
    Federal probe complicates move to impeach Blagojevich; bribe case may be off-limits

    By CHRISTOPHER WILLS Associated Press Writer
    SPRINGFIELD, Ill. December 18, 2008 (AP)

    Illinois lawmakers could be forced to build their impeachment case against Gov. Rod Blagojevich on a raft of relatively small grievances, rather than the blockbuster Senate-seat-for-sale allegations, for fear of undermining federal prosecutors’ criminal investigation.

    Members of the state House impeachment committee said Thursday they will do nothing that would interfere with the investigation by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. If Fitzgerald asks lawmakers not to interview certain witnesses, they will abide by that, they said.

    “We do not want to get in the way of the United States attorney doing the work he does, and so whatever he says about where we can and can’t go in our investigation, we are going to just simply say, `Fine, sir,'” said state Rep. Lou Lang, a suburban Chicago Democrat.

    SNIP

    The latest complications, along with other developments, suggest it could be more difficult to dislodge Blagojevich than it appeared just a week ago. On Wednesday, the Illinois Supreme Court rejected a request to declare him unfit to serve, and Blagojevich’s lawyer made it clear that the governor is not going down without a fight.

    if Illinois lawmakers compel certain witnesses to testify under a grant of immunity. After the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s, the convictions of Oliver North and John Poindexter were thrown out after the courts determined that the cases against them were built too much on testimony they gave to Congress under a promise of immunity.

    The impeachment committee sent Fitzgerald a letter Thursday formally asking for information about people mentioned by pseudonyms in the criminal complaint, and requesting his guidance on who can be called to testify. Fitzgerald refused to comment.

    SNIP

    Blagojevich attorney Ed Genson had no comment on what restrictions Fitzgerald should place on the committee. “They do what they got to do and I do what I’ve got to do, and then what happens is what we’ve got to do,” Genson said.

    Perhaps previewing his courtroom arguments, Genson on Thursday questioned the legality of the wiretaps. He warned the impeachment committee: “I think you’re using evidence that was illegally obtained.” Afterward, Genson said he expects to challenge the wiretaps in court at some point.

    SNIP

    Aside from the federal charges, lawmakers have mentioned several issues that could be part of an impeachment case:

    —Longtime Blagojevich friend Ali Ata, in a plea bargain on charges of lying to the FBI, said that he handed $25,000 to a Blagojevich fundraiser and that the governor immediately brought up the subject of getting Ata a state job.

    —In another guilty plea, Joseph Cari said Blagojevich tried to enlist him as a fundraiser with the possibility of getting state contracts and legal work.

    — A legislative panel turned down Blagojevich’s request to expand government health programs, but Blagojevich ignored the decision and went forward with the expansion.

    —Blagojevich promised $1 million to a historic church destroyed by fire, but the money somehow ended up at a school run by a former felon. Blagojevich pardoned the felon to make her eligible to collect the grant.

  43. wbboei Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    you begin to wonder why we pay them a salary.
    ________________________________________

    Been wondering that for many years now!!

    especially when they are on the campaign trail……makes no sense to me!!

  44. Upthread my hostility and animus toward Goodwin stems from the fact that he was one of the people who was promoting the RFK assassination charge against Hillary and hollering like about it like a screech owl in his columns and on Lou Dobbs that she should get out of the race. He is corrupt but on the narrow point about opening up the process he happens to be right–just like a broken clock twice a day.

  45. Here’s a bit from a press release on Bill’s foundation Web site on why the donor names were released:

    As soon as Senator Clinton was nominated to be Secretary of State, the Foundation staff began working with President-elect Obama’s transition team to ensure that not even the appearance of a conflict of interest existed between the Clinton Foundation’s operations and Senator Clinton’s anticipated service as Secretary of State. President Clinton’s efforts are unprecedented and go above and beyond what the law requires and are intended to allow the important work of the Foundation to continue.

  46. It is getting really annoying to see some of these democrats falling over themselves for caroline kennedy…Hillary Rosen on CNN sounded like a fool…they go on rationalizing about CK’s ‘mystique’ – give me a break…

    frankly CK is lucky she has a media biased towards her, because based on her actions and video clips and comments so far she is embarrassing herself…if this were Palin she would be getting crucified by CK’s ‘mother’ and ‘author’ comments…and Palin was an elected mayor and GOVERNOR…CK has no resume…

    I don’t know how she isn’t embarrassed to just waltz in there and take this over more deserving and experienced people and she has nothing to actually say…I hope she does the right thing and instead decides to run for the seat in 2010…this year has been such an eye opener regarding the Democratic party…this stunt really takes the cake…

  47. oh…one more thing…can you just imagine CK in an election debate opposite Republican Peter King who has declared he will run…He would trounce her…I think she would be speechless…and completely off guard

  48. Henry and djia…my guess is Obama’s adoring MSM…they are next to go under the bus…he will use his diversion charm offense, but if they try to get serious and ask tough questions O will just cut them off and divert…

  49. well i would love to see him throw “daily kooks” under the bus
    and then be a fly on the wall while marcos goes ape shit!! *Big Grin*

  50. Another thing, my husband said he was watching Meet the Press over the weekend and McCain was on. He said McCain said that if Sarah Palin would run (I guess for the presidency) he probably wouldn’t support her. He said there would be alot of other good governors running.

    I haven’t heard anyone here mention this and wondered if it’s true, that McCain really said that or if my hubby heard him wrongly.

    If McCain said that, that really angers me and can you imagine how Sarah feels?

  51. Recent alert links at
    h t t p : / / pumaresponders.blogspot.com/

    NY Daily: several against CK etc
    politico: Gay leaders furious with Obama
    ABC: Federal probe complicates move to impeach Bla…
    Post-Standard: Caroline Kennedy meets with Syracus…
    Several stories about Caroline K fm upstate NY

  52. Front page of the NY Post has a picture of ck and her voting record. The paper is a tabloid but everyone sees it.

  53. hear, hear Admin.

    I’m amazed at how long many of us drank the leftist kool-aid, accepting the way the left makes excuses for themselves, are in constant denial, and are hypocritical; this past Primary year certainly sobered us up…I think of the documentary, The War Room, and how Hillary coined the title of the film because she knew the reputation of Democrats and knew that they had to be aggressive and strong and stand by their conviction, and the Clintons knew then that they had to be a new kind of Democrat in order to win…Obama’s not the change he bills himself to be – he’s just like the rest – weak.

  54. I visit nearly everyday but haven’t posted anything in months. Admin – you are doing a GREAT job and the quality of your writing and research has only gotten better since you started this website. After an entire year of attacks on this blog and its posters, it turns out that you’ve been right all along. History will vindicate Hillary Clinton, her supporters, and this blog. Your writings here may be the last bit of truth to what has happened this year once Obama and his administration scrubs everything they possibly can that can incriminate them of any wrongdoing. This is the kind of stuff you read in books for high school – 1984, Brave New World, The Handmaid’s Tale – but I never expected to see this type of stuff in my lifetime. Especially from the Democratic Party. It’s horrible that Warren was invited but at least more gays are beginning to see that they were never part of Obama’s exclusive club. They are outsiders along with the women and anyone else who questioned him during the primaries. This man is worse than Nixon.

  55. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 7:00 am
    After an entire year of attacks on this blog and its posters, it turns out that you’ve been right all along. History will vindicate Hillary Clinton, her supporters, and this blog. Your writings here may be the last bit of truth to what has happened this year once Obama and his administration scrubs everything they possibly can that can incriminate them of any wrongdoing.
    ————————————————————–
    YEP! HERE’S TO ADMIN!

  56. bluegirl,

    I guess the “throwing people under the bus” syndrome is a generic one, not specific to one party or one cause. Whatever McCain’s reasons were for dissing Palin, he would have been better off giving a more democratic answer that didn’t imply anything one way or another.

  57. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 7:00 am

    ————————————-

    Excellent post!

  58. JanH Says: Whatever McCain’s reasons were for dissing Palin, he would have been better off giving a more democratic answer that didn’t imply anything one way or another.
    =====================

    Has anyone posted a full, in context quote of what McCain actually said? A neutral statement might have been spun by the media as dissing Palin.

  59. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 7:00 am
    This man is worse than Nixon.
    &&&&&&&&&

    I mentioned RMN a couple of weeks ago…Like Nixon (in 1972), Obama skirted public financing laws, and raised ungodly amounts of money to overwhelm his opponent by saturating the airwaves with his lies.

    Unlike Nixon, who had a deep resume and years of governmental experience, Obama is the lightest of empty suit candidates.

    And Nixon used his right wing bona fides to carry out centrist and left wing goals: opening dialog and relations with China, getting us out of Vietnam, starting the EPA, etc. My hopes for Obama, based on his self-serving uncommital stances, is that he will spend four years running for re-election by not doing anything too drastic, and if given the chance, do what W. has done, spend the last four years attempting to create the illusion of some lasting “legacy”.

    So I’d say Obama has more in common with Bush:

    * both lightweights coming into office, capable of great acts of malice
    * well connected to big monied interests who expect something in return
    * extremely secretive
    * extremely self-serving
    * disinterested in actually doing the job of president

  60. Correction for above:

    “My hopes for Obama” should read:
    “My expectations for Obama”

    I do not have “hopes” for Obama.

    But I’ll need plenty of hops. (as in beer).

  61. turndownobama-com Says:
    Has anyone posted a full, in context quote of what McCain actually said? A neutral statement might have been spun by the media as dissing Palin.
    &&&&&&&&

    Right on the money. We’ve seen how they told half a story, omitted key background info, taken quotes out of context.

    I’m sure you could take a Martin Luther King Jr. speech, remove certain words, and turn it into something you’d expect out of Adolf Hitler’s mouth.

  62. This sort of sums up the disconnect between governed and government:

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/with-economy-in-shambles-congress-gets-a-raise-2008-12-17.html

    A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.

    Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.

  63. turndown,

    Drudge had the following:

    McCain Declines to Back Palin in 2012:

    John McCain pointedly refused to say Sunday that he would back former running mate Sarah Palin if she runs for president in 2012, saying there are plenty of other good people in the Republican Party to consider, such as Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman.

    ———————————

    It was definitely a tough question. Put on the spot, he probably thought he was being diplomatic, but could have been more specific and not left himself open to being criticized.

  64. McCain’s campaign was tepid. The zestiest part about it was the Palin pick, and in turn, she turned out to be the dynamite. I thought she was over-managed, and if given a freer hand, she could have helped more.

    Plus, what the hell was that McCain strategy, “I won’t use the Rev. Wright material”. Obama was willing to use anything against McCain, including things that never happened.

    Despite a constant barrage a negative criticism, Big Media could not quash the Irresistible Sarah Palin.

    Despite BM’s attempt to paint her as some right wing extremist, she was actually quite centrist: “On a personal level, I believe in __X_; but for policy, here are the constraints, and why I think we’ll have to __Y__”.

    She’s not a rube, she’s not a whack job, she’s not some empty-suit/pretty face, gettin’ by on looks. She’s one of the few “real people” we get to see in the political arena, and I think that message came through the media haze machine.

  65. admin Says:

    December 19th, 2008 at 10:15 am
    This sort of sums up the disconnect between governed and government
    —————————————————————————————————-

    This is so sad and rotten. The majority of lawmakers are millionaires, although, there maybe more House members who are not. Most of the lawmakers could do without their salaries, but they seem very disconnected between the populace, and their own rarified air. The Congress is looking like the House of Lords. Silly us, for expecting a democratic process. Betwee, CK, another Kennedy in IL, Biden’s senate seat being saved for his son, and talk of Rep. Salazar replacing his father in the Senate, there is a big stink in government. It is not government by the people, for the people, but is for corporations. Oh, and last but not least, Mayor Bloomberg has had term limits lifted, so that he can run for another term.

    All we need is money, not love. And misogyny rages on.

  66. rgb44hrc,

    I think Palin surprised McCain with her forthrightness and popularity. She did more to make his campaign a viable one than he did in the end.

    When I think about it, the only candidate from both sides who really excited me was Hillary. I liked McCain, but neither Dems or Reps put forth any decent alternatives to Hillary…so corruption had to be the end game.

  67. admin Says:
    Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.
    &&&&&

    The many people who have lost their jobs and are working part time or off the books may not even be taking in $4,700 in a whole year.

    Wait, wait, let me guess.

    a) The raise was based on merit? If so, please fill out a report on how your oversight of the banking and oil and auto industries, etc., made life better for US citizens, and kept us out of a recession. Too tough to answer?

    or,

    b) The raise was based on inflation? Aren’t we going through a deflationary phase? Might you want to give yourselves a decrease.

    Congressbastards and Congresssluts, take the lead from the CEOs who have decided to work for ONE DOLLAR A YEAR salary.

    You can make it up with the usual backroom deals and scandals, or get your spouse and your dog on someone’s payroll. “Fido L. Johnson is a ‘consultant’ for MegaCorp, in the dog biscuit quality control department”.

  68. “Today” show (with Andrea Mitchell) discusses Caroline Kennedy:

  69. From admin’s 10:15 posting, here’s more from that articale, in case you didn’t go to the link:

    &&&
    Still, Steve Ellis, vice president of the budget watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, said Congress should have taken the rare step of freezing its pay, as lawmakers did in 2000.

    “Look at the way the economy is and how most people aren’t counting on a holiday bonus or a pay raise — they’re just happy to have gainful employment,” said Ellis. “But you have the lawmakers who are set up and ready to get their next installment of a pay raise and go happily along their way.”

    Member raises are often characterized as examples of wasteful spending, especially when many constituents and businesses in members’ districts are in financial despair.

    Rep. Harry Mitchell, a first-term Democrat from Arizona, sponsored legislation earlier this year that would have prevented the automatic pay adjustments from kicking in for members next year. But the bill, which attracted 34 cosponsors, failed to make it out of committee.

    “They don’t even go through the front door. They have it set up so that it’s wired so that you actually have to undo the pay raise rather than vote for a pay raise,” Ellis said.

    Freezing congressional salaries is hardly a new idea on Capitol Hill.

    Lawmakers have floated similar proposals in every year dating back to 1995, and long before that. Though the concept of forgoing a raise has attracted some support from more senior members, it is most popular with freshman lawmakers, who are often most vulnerable.

    In 2006, after the Republican-led Senate rejected an increase to the minimum wage, Democrats, who had just come to power in the House with a slew of freshmen, vowed to block their own pay raise until the wage increase was passed. The minimum wage was eventually increased and lawmakers received their automatic pay hike.

    In the beginning days of 1789, Congress was paid only $6 a day, which would be about $75 daily by modern standards. But by 1965 members were receiving $30,000 a year, which is the modern equivalent of about $195,000.

    Currently the average lawmaker makes $169,300 a year, with leadership making slightly more. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) makes $217,400, while the minority and majority leaders in the House and Senate make $188,100.

    Ellis said that while freezing the pay increase would be a step in the right direction, it would be better to have it set up so that members would have to take action, and vote, for a pay raise and deal with the consequences, rather than get one automatically.

  70. Thanks admin for the Andrea Mitchell interview regarding CK. To me, CarKen exhibits a “bogus sense of humility”. Humble words come out of her mouth, but through the haughtiness, you can hear what she’s really saying:

    “I’ve asked Gov. Patterson to consider me among many qualified candidates”.
    Translation: “Among many truly qualified New Yorkers, I’m confident that all the string pulling will help get this little out of state, carpet-bagging, inexperienced rich girl this nice little going away present”

    “…that he’s laid out a process” (for selecting a Senator)
    Translation: “There should be a fair process, but the process that in reality is in place is a rigged fast track for the privileged, and we wouldn’t want to disrupt that trend, now would we? The rigged fast track worked for Obama, didn’t it? I mean, geez, what experience did he have to become Senator, let along President before completing even a single term in the Senate. And he didn’t even grow up rich…”

  71. From obamacrimes.com:

    12/18/08 – URGENT NOTICE – False rumors are circulating – Justice Kennedy denied our Application for an Injunction to Stay Electoral Vote Count by Congress on January 8, 2009. However, our Writ of Certiorari is still pending and is now scheduled for Conference before U.S. Supreme Court on January 9, 2009.

  72. Admin, I’ve already sent my protest about the pay raise to my lawmakers.

    and by the way you hit the nail right on it’s ugly head with your article of how the LGBT community leadership are so downright STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (in fairness 25% of us did not vote for BHO )
    I personally am sick to death of the “deer in the headlights’ response. Their outrage is welcomed but it is clearly too little too late. they were warned long ago.

    I am totally freaking fed up!!!!!!!!! (don’t make me give a list why here, I don’t think you have enough space anyway)

    thanks for this great place to come in order to maintain some sanity.

  73. Bluegirl: it appears your husband heard it right. In which case here are some questions that someone should be asking McCain:
    ———————————-
    Question: Senator McCain, you selected Sarah Palin as your running mate in 2008 did you not?

    Answer: yes

    Question: You selected her over all the other possible candidates–the governor of Minnesota, your friend the keebler elf, etc.?

    Answer: yes, but I wish you would not call Lieberman the keebler elf–I do not want you or me to be sued for patent infingement.

    Question: thank you senator. Now when you ran for office you were cognizant of your age and physical conditon?

    Answer: yes, of course

    Question: You are 72 years of age are you not?

    Answer: you should see my mother–she is 96

    Question: did your mother spend 5 years at the Hanoi Hilton?

    Answer: of course not (grins–starting to get pissed off).

    Question: you cannot raise your arms above your head now can you?

    Answer: no sir. I am disabled.

    Question: I understand that sir, I do not wish to offend you. I am simply trying to get at the truth and appreciate the help you can give me.

    Question: given your age and physical condition did you consider the possibility that you could die in office?

    Answer: of course.

    Answer: if you had won the election and you had died in office then your vice president would have ascended to the office of president, true?

    Answer: that is what the Constitution says

    Question: and in your case that would have been Sarah Palin?

    Answer: yes

    Question: so when you contemplated the possibility that you might die in office you decided that she would be qualified to assume the office of President?

    Answer: yes

    Question: Sarah Palin attracted alot of support from the base of your party did she not?

    Answer: yes

    Question: Sarah Palin did well against Joe Biden in the debate–correct?

    Answer: yes

    Question: Sarah Palin was an energetic campaigner for you was she not?

    Answer: yes

    Question: in fact, Sarah Palin supported you and your candidacy-true?

    Answer: she did

    Question: was there anything she did during the campaign that did not please you?

    Answer: of course not

    Question: so you chose her over other candidates knowing that she could become president, she energized your campaign and supported you personally on the campaign trail, and yet now you refuse to say you will support her in 2012 if she decides to run for President?

    (Note: I do not profess to know what all was behind his comment. I assume loyalty means something to him. But based on the little I know I did not like his answer either)

  74. December 19, 2008
    Is Obama vulnerable to blackmail?
    By James Lewis

    Suppose you’re Bashir Assad or Putin, and you watch the Blago Blowup, a month before the next president even takes office.

    What are you thinking right now?

    First, Obama looks vulnerable to blackmail. His homey network is full of people who can’t stand the light of day. They know all kinds of things the leftist media suppress — people like Auchi (the Iraqi billionaire), Rezko (the corrupt Syrian multimillionaire), Emil Jones (the Godfather of Southside), and the whole Daley Machine.

    That’s not even counting the freaky radicals or the pols Obama has surrounded himself with. Mayor Daley’s brother is one of the official transition leaders, for heavens’ sake, along with Valerie Jarrett and a whole, privately paid operation that doesn’t have to follow Federal rules on transparency, lobbying or accounting.

    Leverage on the people around Obama is the first step. So you ask your handy secret agents in the US to beat the bushes for more blackmail material. Easy enough. Chicago is a Machine town, and there’s always a rumor mill in a town full of neighborhood taverns.

    Here’s what else the spy masters are sure to be wondering.

    read the list here:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/is_obama_vulnerable_to_blackma.html

    SNIP
    We know that the media keep explosive secrets and threaten to expose them if they don’t get their way. Some politicians do it, and the Federal bureaucracy does it. The New York Times has dumped one huge CIA leak after another, just to sabotage the Bush Administration and its foreign policy objectives. Why shouldn’t the Chinese? The Saudis? The Syrians and their close friends in Tehran? Maybe the North Koreans are carrying on an international trade in Washington secrets?

    Nobody knows Fitzgerald’s real reason for triggering the Blago circus, rather than following his Plame strategy and walking the cat up the hill. The appointment of Eric Holder at Justice might have triggered that warning, since Holder could fire Fitzgerald. Fitz might be firing a warning shot across the bow of the Daley Machine, to signal that yes, you’ve got the White House now, but don’t go too far.

    But there are other possibilities.

    This could be a hidden battle between Clinton holdovers and Obamanistas. There might actually be some honest patriots at Justice, trying to stave off a new wave of corruption.

    Or it might be exactly as Fitzgerald claims. (You never know).

    Whatever the truth may be, you can bet that all the embassies and spy services are looking for ways to exploit this mess. Obama, Axelrod, Rahm and their friends have already exposed a lot of weak spots in the next administration.

    Welcome to the Big Leagues, Slugger.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/is_obama_vulnerable_to_blackma.html

  75. December 19, 2008
    Is Obama vulnerable to blackmail?
    By James Lewis

    Suppose you’re Bashir Assad or Putin, and you watch the Blago Blowup, a month before the next president even takes office.

    What are you thinking right now?

    First, Obama looks vulnerable to blackmail. His homey network is full of people who can’t stand the light of day. They know all kinds of things the leftist media suppress — people like Auchi (the Iraqi billionaire), Rezko (the corrupt Syrian multimillionaire), Emil Jones (the Godfather of Southside), and the whole Daley Machine.

    That’s not even counting the freaky radicals or the pols Obama has surrounded himself with. Mayor Daley’s brother is one of the official transition leaders, for heavens’ sake, along with Valerie Jarrett and a whole, privately paid operation that doesn’t have to follow Federal rules on transparency, lobbying or accounting.

    Leverage on the people around Obama is the first step. So you ask your handy secret agents in the US to beat the bushes for more blackmail material. Easy enough. Chicago is a Machine town, and there’s always a rumor mill in a town full of neighborhood taverns.

    Here’s what else the spy masters are sure to be wondering.

    read the list here:

    a m e r i c a n t h i n k e r . c o m /2008/12/is_obama_vulnerable_to_blackma.html

    SNIP

    We know that the media keep explosive secrets and threaten to expose them if they don’t get their way. Some politicians do it, and the Federal bureaucracy does it. The New York Times has dumped one huge CIA leak after another, just to sabotage the Bush Administration and its foreign policy objectives. Why shouldn’t the Chinese? The Saudis? The Syrians and their close friends in Tehran? Maybe the North Koreans are carrying on an international trade in Washington secrets?

    Nobody knows Fitzgerald’s real reason for triggering the Blago circus, rather than following his Plame strategy and walking the cat up the hill. The appointment of Eric Holder at Justice might have triggered that warning, since Holder could fire Fitzgerald. Fitz might be firing a warning shot across the bow of the Daley Machine, to signal that yes, you’ve got the White House now, but don’t go too far.

    But there are other possibilities.

    This could be a hidden battle between Clinton holdovers and Obamanistas. There might actually be some honest patriots at Justice, trying to stave off a new wave of corruption.

    Or it might be exactly as Fitzgerald claims. (You never know).

    Whatever the truth may be, you can bet that all the embassies and spy services are looking for ways to exploit this mess. Obama, Axelrod, Rahm and their friends have already exposed a lot of weak spots in the next administration.

    Welcome to the Big Leagues, Slugger.

    a m e r i c a n t h i n k e r . c o m /2008/12/is_obama_vulnerable_to_blackma.html

  76. Is Obama vulnerable to blackmail?
    By James Lewis
    ———————————-
    Dija: thank you for posting. This article is hard core reality. It is some of the things I have been saying and more–much more. Over the years, American Thinker has been a first class internet site. Their analysis is uniformly impressive.

  77. Whatever the truth may be, you can bet that all the embassies and spy services are looking for ways to exploit this mess. Obama, Axelrod, Rahm and their friends have already exposed a lot of weak spots in the next administration.
    —————————————-
    Sure as the earth turns they will exploit it. If they come up with something they will use it against the United States. Throughout his entire life Obama has put his own personal interests before those of the country, and his constituents.

    That is why it is idiots delight to say he is the president therefore we must support him for the good of the country. In the right circumstances his interests and those of the nation will find themselves at cross purposes.

    Pam Grier was pretty good at breaking up Emil Jones type operations back in the 70s. I wonder what she is doing now.

  78. djia, what about-
    Liberals, their farts don’t stink!
    Dimocrats, their farts don’t stink!
    Tweety….”

    Why is Colmes leaving Hannity? Thanks to above for it, but why? Was it my comment to him to stop talking over the guests because it was soooo Jerry Springer like?

  79. FYI: Local news, Breaking News, Caylee’s body found, remains identified as little Caylee Anthony in nearby Orange County FL.

    The water meter reader who reported the body/remains had done so three other times in August of this year.

  80. What’s the skinny on LaHood? Hmmm, from Illinois, I wonder what the “taint factor is”.

    And as Transportation Secretary:
    a) will he be the one driving the bus that everone is getting thrown under?
    b) Wanna bet he’ll be a huge ethanol (corn) subsidy advocate?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama

    Obama settled on California Rep. Hilda Solis for labor secretary and former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk for U.S. trade representative, officials said Thursday. He was ready to introduce Republican Rep. Ray LaHood of Illinois as transportation secretary at a news conference Friday afternoon, although it wasn’t clear who else might join him at the podium.

  81. THOSE WHO CALLED HIM “Barack Hussein Obama” WERE ACCUSED OF TRYING SNEAKILY TO IMPLY HE WAS “FOREIGN”, OR MUSLIM”. NOW, HE’S SUDDENLY PROUD OF HIS MIDDLE NAME?

    http://www.freep.com/article/20081210/NEWS15/81210050/0/NEWS15

    Obama vows to use full name, ‘reboot America’s image’

    WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama says he will try to “reboot America’s image” among the world’s Muslims and will follow tradition by using his entire name — Barack Hussein Obama — in his swearing-in ceremony.
    (snip)
    &&&&&&&&&

    And what’s with the “reboot”. He probably thinks it’s a bonding thing with all the internet geek bot bloggers. I bet you he doesn’t know how to update the PROM on his PC.

    BO: “Umm, uh, PROM, …hmmmm. Hillary, somebody said I have to flash up my PROM”

    HRC: “Here, you just have to download the right version, burn it to the CD, and boot off it. ” (to herself, “Can’t this guy do anything?”).

  82. Also from admin’s 10:15 entry was the Lawrence O’Donnell quote, something to the effect the CK’s “learning curve” is not a huge obstacle, because for anyone entering the Senate, it is a whole new world.

    In fact, he specifically mentioned Hillary as having needed to go through that learning phase.

    What he omits is that she earned her right to go through that learning phase, by going through a long and arduous campaign, first running against Giulliani, who then dropped out when it looked like his campaign was nose-diving, then against the last second fill-in, Rick Lazio. Hillary racked up endless miles meeting real New Yorkers, from all over the state. And as the most involved First Lady ever (with perhaps the exception of Eleanor Roosevelt, who was the de facto President for some period of time when Franklin was ailing), she got to know the Executive-Congressional interplay. She was a real policy wonk, for a long time. So her learning curve was probably reduced to “So which bathroom is closest?”, and “Where will my staff be situated?”.

    CarKen, sure, she can “do the job”. Any moron can “be a Senator”. There are enough hand holders and aides and supervising authorities telling you what to do and how to vote, that you just have to show up. Oh, forgot, Senators Obama and McCain hardly ever did that either. Obama didn’t even have to find out how to vote, “Abstain”, “Whatever, dude”, “Would love to vote but it might be held against me”.

  83. rgb44hrc,

    no i have no background on james lewis, but if you go to american thinker you can access every article he ever wrote there, that should tell you where his head and heart in journalism is.

    wbboei

    your welcome *smile*

    Short Termer

    mine don’t either *smirk*

    and I am so happy colmes is going away, however, not far enough!!!! he is still with fox and will have his own weekend show……like who’s going watch???

  84. blogojevich speaking to the media for the first time coming up in a few minutes on fox and i am sure other stations as well.

  85. UNDER-THE-BUS BOTS FIND A WAY TO COPE THROUGH IRRATIONAL RATIONALIZING.
    To sum it up: “He’s blown my trust, but I’d slit my wrists if I admitted that out loud”

    From HuffPost, Chris Durang:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-durang/gay-and-feeling-hurt-by-o_b_152348.html

    Excerpts from above:

    As a gay man, I feel hurt and upset by Obama’s inviting evangelist Rick Warren to speak at the Inauguration.
    (snip)

    Obama being elected was, and still is, the best hope that our country can refind our values. And finally address global warming, that was ignored the last 8 years, etc. etc., with the other 20 serious, serious problems we face.

    But now Obama has invited anti-gay Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration.

    And Mr. Warren is profoundly Old School about homosexuality — he thinks it is a sin, which he bases on his belief on passages in the Bible. There are also passages in the Bible that support slavery; is it time to send Barack and Michelle back to the cotton fields? That feels rude to say, but my point is, just because something is in the Bible is not a reason to accept it; you have to analyze it and figure out if it’s part of the Bible that was written centuries ago from a different, less mentally evolved state.

    Anyway, for a gay person such as myself who has been an enthusiastic Obama supporter, this is a depressing, saddening, infuriating choice for his first day in office.

    I get he’s trying to reach across the aisle. And I gather Mr. Warren is good on the environment and on AIDS in Africa (having been unengaged by the issue, I’ve read, years ago when it was primarily in the gay population).

    Obama may be a visionary about not demonizing people he disagrees with.
    (snip)

    So on some level I’m trying to be open to the “we must talk to those we don’t agree with” idea. It does seem the only way to get something done.

    Still this is the first event of his presidency, and gay people’s feelings seem so easily sacrificed by Obama.
    (snip)

    It feels similar to me, this inviting of Warren. Really leaves the gay people feeling not much like celebrating.

    Sigh.

    So over the past days I have felt angry at Obama. And then sad. And now blank. And I worry if he’s up to the task of all the problems the country and the world have. He looked exhausted at the last press conference he appeared at — though who can blame him? The economy is terrifying, and it’s really not clear what should be done. My blink is a massive government-supported stimulus program that creates useful jobs (and ready-to-go jobs) is our best hope, as he and his advisers seem to think. But I don’t think anybody knows for sure.

    Still Obama’s remains our best hope for the country… and that’s how it is.
    (snip)

    So my kindest thoughts — with hurt and resentment put aside — is that President-Elect Obama will think about the Christian teachings he has accepted on gay people. And remember all the nutty things that are in the Bible (put adulterers to death, put homosexuals to death, don’t eat food from animals with cloven hoofs), and think through if Bible teaching on gay people is in any way core to the teachings of Christ; and if it belongs in the same discard pile as does the Bible’s “slave, obey your master.”

    Sigh.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    To all the Bots who blindly followed Obama, be warned, the disappointment will continue, and will become worse. Just wait.

  86. Gov. GRANHOLM VOWS TO STAY UNTAINTED:

    http://www.freep.com/article/20081217/NEWS06/81217083/0/NEWS15

    Granholm Uninterested in Job with the Obama administration
    —————————————————–

    LANSING – Gov. Jennifer Granholm has no interest in an appointment to President-elect Barack Obama’s administration, her spokeswoman, Elizabeth Boyd, told the Free Press today.

    “The governor has made it clear she does not want to be considered for an appointment at this time,” Boyd said, although it was unclear if Granholm conveyed that sentiment to Obama’s transition team.

    Still, it was Granholm’s strongest denial of a possible path to Washington, in the middle of her four-year term as governor.

    Speculation has swirled that Granholm might receive a presidential appointment, given her high-profile inclusion as part of Obama’s team of economic advisors and her support for Obama during the campaign. Most recently, that speculation centered on an appointment as U.S. secretary of labor.

    Granholm has said numerous times – most recently on the television news show “Meet the Press” — that she is looking forward to being governor with a Democratic president to help Michigan.

    Granholm originally supported Hillary Clinton for president, but she became an ardent Obama campaigner after he clinched the Democratic nomination.

    Asked if Granholm knew whether she was undergoing a background check for a possible Obama appointment, Boyd replied, “That’s immaterial because she’s not interested.”

  87. Rod Blagojevich just now:

    “i will fight fight fight”
    “I have the most powerful thing on my side – The Truth!”
    “i am dying to show you i am innocent”

    he also quoted kipling, anyone know what poem it was?

  88. one thing i notice when blago said anyone that is listening,he went uhh..just like bo..
    I cant remember what poem it is

  89. OBAMA DEMANDS SPECIAL FAVOR; BUSH SAYS NO THROUGH SPOKESWOMAN

    http://www.freep.com/article/20081212/NEWS15/81212102/1215/NEWS15

    Obamas can’t move into Blair House early
    By PHLIIP ELLIOTT • Associated Press • December 12, 2008

    CHICAGO— President-elect Barack Obama asked the White House if his family could move to Washington earlier than normal, but aides say the White House couldn’t give them the official guest house as early as his family wanted.

    The Obamas had asked White House officials to move into Blair House about two weeks before the traditional date so their two daughters could start their new school when classes resume Jan. 5. Obama aides say the White House told them that the request cannot be met because the current administration still has plans for the historic government home across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House.

    An Obama aide said the family was told that there were previously scheduled events at the Blair House and guests could not be displaced. The aide, who was not authorized to speak about Obama family matters, spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Sally McDonough, first lady Laura Bush’s press secretary, declined to comment on the transition conversations, but said the Blair House would be available on January 15, the traditional date it becomes available for new presidents and their families
    (snip)
    &&&&&&&&

    Geez, this guy has no respect for any rules. “I am King. Bow to me.” F off.

  90. blago also stated:

    he was a very lonely man right now, that their were “powerful forces” lying, setting him up etc
    and he will fight in a court to prove his innocence.

    Asked the people of IL to be patient, give him the same as they would expect “presumed innocence”
    and the right to go to court and the opportunity to prove his innocence as they would expect
    he asked not to be tried via the media.

    Then wished everyone a merry christmas and exited the news conference

  91. djia Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    Rod Blagojevich just now:
    “i am dying to show you i am innocent”
    &&&&&&&&

    Knowing Obama, he might just have to do that.

  92. Blago: I will fight- i will fight- i will fight… until i take my last breath… I am innocent of any wrong doing

  93. the poem is “IF” by Kipling

    poetryloverspage com / poets/kipling/kipling_ind.html

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream — and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think — and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on!”

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings — nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run —
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
    And — which is more — you’ll be a Man, my son!

  94. December 19, 2008
    An arrest in Alaska
    Ethel C. Fenig
    The Palin/Johnston baby is reportedly due tomorrow (Caesarean on an 18 year old?) So the new grandmother to be on the father to be’s side gets herself arrested prior to the big event. This is a little twist on the child or relative of someone prominent–Kennedy (mostly D) of whoever parent springs to mind.

    So let’s put this in perspective: Ms. Johnston is the mother of Governor Sarah Palin’s (R-Alaska) about to be son in law, she does not/did not work on the Palin campaign. Palin didn’t do/doesn’t seem to do drugs or drink while in office — somehow the Kennedy name spring to mind again — consort illegally with prostitutes a la ex Governor Eliot Spitzer (D-NY) or is not accused of oh say, selling the newly vacant Alaska Senate seat to the highest bidder a la Governor Rod Blagojevich (again D-IL). And on and on again about the Democrats.

    So, if, in the interests of balance, the NY Times decides to add this to the vital slanderous information its crack team of reporters uncovered about Palin last summer (she shoots moose) should she ever decide to run again, this is a slight reminder to the financially vulnerable NY Times that if Ms. Caroline Kennedy (D) graciously accepts the coronation as NY senator there is loads of information on her available in their own backyard.

    But will they, or SNL, act on it? Nah.

    americanthinker com /blog/2008/12/an_arrest_in_alaska.html

    [ the referenced arrest story for more info ] w w w adn com /news/alaska/crime/story/628010.html

  95. lol…Hillary had to go through a “learning phase?”

    LMAO! I mean really! Who on earth hasn’t had to go from learning curve to learning curve during their careers just in order to stay on top of the ever changing world around us!

    The only difference between Hillary and the rest, i.e. Obama, Kennedy after Kennedy, Pilosi, etc…etc… is that those learning curves actually sunk through for her. The others…well…the proof is in their repeated pie in the face/hoof and mouth disease moments.

  96. Interesting that very few in the media are discussing the recent pay raise that Sarah Palin TURNED DOWN! She stated that now was not the time, with economy in the state that it is in, for her to be taking more money.

    Go Sarah!

  97. I hope blago does many “mini” news conferences to come as they keep the heat on obama and his Ilk in the news BIG GRIN!!!

    blago sent out many warnings to obama and his dimocrat ilk today in his statement and i think kiplings poem has a message to them as well..

    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

    Obama, emmanuel, Axelrod, Pelosi et all must be Sweating buckets in their panic today !!!

  98. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122964897338520479.html

    Democrats Are the New Ethics Story;
    Blagojevich is just the tip of the iceberg.

    By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

    A note to all those visitors who will soon flood Washington for the inauguration: Be careful of the “swamp.”

    That would be the swamp Speaker Nancy Pelosi vowed to drain when she led her party to victory in 2006. The GOP had been rocked by scandal, and Mrs. Pelosi and Democrats won, in part, by promising to clean up the “culture of corruption” that pervaded Washington.

    Instead, Democrats now have an image problem. The real issue isn’t so much Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s Senate-seat auction, as it is the focus that his scandal has directed toward a wider assortment of Democratic troubles. This isn’t great timing for Barack Obama, who campaigned on cleaner government.

    The Blagojevich drama is titillating enough, and local Democrats’ dithering over how to fill Mr. Obama’s seat guarantees it will remain a storyline longer than is comfortable. But the Illinois drama has also thrust new light on the ongoing ethical controversies of House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel. At the rate the House Ethics Committee is receiving complaints — over Mr. Rangel’s real-estate problems, tax problems, his privately sponsored trips to the Caribbean, and donations to his center in New York — this too will make headlines for a while.

    Meanwhile, the Chicago Tribune published a new story about Illinois Rep. Luis Gutierrez, who racked up $420,000 through a series of suspicious real-estate deals. Texas Rep. Silvestre Reyes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, came under scrutiny this fall for questionable earmarking. West Virginia Rep. Alan Mollohan has been under investigation for a separate earmarking mess. And then there’s Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd, who has yet to answer questions about the sweetheart mortgage deal he received from Countrywide.

    One unfortunate side effect of Mr. Obama’s long coattails was that they helped the party’s more ethically challenged members get re-elected. Pennsylvania’s Paul Kanjorski and John Murtha, who both struggled to keep their seats because of earmarking travails, will continue to answer questions about their actions. Mrs. Pelosi lost a problem when Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson — with his $90,000 in freezer cash — lost in November. Yet she has potentially gained a new headache with Illinois Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who may have wanted that Obama seat a little too much.

    There are more. Shockingly, this has happened despite all those campaign-finance laws, and Congress’s legislation to ban lobbyist lunches. The members took credit for those publicity stunts, and went right back to their “culture” of earmarking.

    The speaker’s reluctance to tackle these problems is odd considering she is a seasoned pol who surely knows nothing sucks the life out of a party more quickly than a good round of tittle-tattle. The Republican crew of Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney sank the GOP easily enough, quite aside from its other problems.

    Mrs. Pelosi must also know Republicans are belatedly getting their own house in order, at least in terms of optics. The GOP is lucky that most of its worst offenders, such as Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, have now been dealt with by federal prosecutors or voters. To further inoculate his side, House Minority Leader John Boehner also recently moved to strip Alaska Rep. Don Young — allegedly under federal investigation — of his top slot at the resources committee. He intends to turn Democratic infractions into a political story. He knows how easy it is to do.

    Mrs. Pelosi’s problem is politics. Her refusal to temporarily remove Mr. Rangel from Ways and Means is in part a reticence to further anger the Congressional Black Caucus, which remains steamed that she worked for Mr. Jefferson’s ouster from his seat on Ways and Means. Worse, next in line for Mr. Rangel’s slot is Rep. Pete Stark, an off-the-charts liberal who Mrs. Pelosi would struggle to leash.

    $$$$$$
    Is Mr. Obama taking notes? The president-elect is discovering the limits of his campaign strategy of ignoring inconvenient questions. One of his great achievements this year was to convince voters that his meteoric rise was unconnected to the Chicago political machine. His silence in the Blagojevich scandal has mainly served to make people wonder if that was true.
    $$$$$$

    His Clinton-era appointments threaten to unleash their own round of stories, from a rehash of Eric Holder’s role in the Marc Rich pardon, to Bill Clinton’s foundation donors. And Mrs. Pelosi’s congressional problems threaten to become his own. Mr. Rangel, Mr. Reyes and Mr. Murtha — to name but a few — all head bodies that will be central to Mr. Obama’s agenda.

    One of President Bush’s mistakes was his refusal to police the spending and earmarks that led his party to temptation, or to push his party to quarantine its liabilities. If the president-elect wants to avoid the same error, he might consider what his promises of good government mean in practice, especially as regards his own party.
    &&&&&&&&&

    (end of article)

    Regarding this quote: “Chris Dodd, who has yet to answer questions about the sweetheart mortgage deal he received from Countrywide.” Obama too should be confronted about the sweetheart mortgage deal he received (was it Countrywide too???) and the nice low asking price tag on the house, in addition to the little ol’ piece ah land from the exceptionally friendly people next door.

  99. I got a form email from James Carville asking to donate toward fighting the media – the rightwing media and those like Rush, O’Reilly et al. He was with Media Matters.

    Also, got a form email from TeamSarah, they are asking for donations to help hire for some positions.

    And hats off to Sarah Palin for doing the right thing -turning down a payraise. the Congress did not turn down their pay raises in these perilous times. They are NOT doing the right thing.

  100. While the big media apparnachecs who never bothered to vet Obama, and never ever worried or wondered out loud whether the massive illegal contributions flowing into his coffers might raise a conflict of interest or worse, now worries that monies raised by Bill Clinton to fight aids, poverty and other disasters, and to clean up the condition that breed terrorism in the world, their agenda becomes crystal clear–to destroy the Clintons, to control government, to save themselves from bankruptcy and to destroy the American People. New Yorkers need to tell Patterson they do not want to be “ruled” (their word not mine) by the Kennedys and the Chicago Machine, to compare the trust fund baby to Hillary is nothing short of farcical, and they expect him as their governor to refuse the bribe Teddy is offering. The first question he should ask Caroline in public is this: are you aware of the fact that your uncle’s people have told me that if I select you then our legislation will receive preferential treatment over all the other states? If I do not select you can you promise me that your uncle and his henchmen will not bury our legislation? Get the full threat on the record. See what marie antioinette says in response.

  101. So, if, in the interests of balance, the NY Times decides to add this to the vital slanderous information its crack team of reporters uncovered about Palin last summer (she shoots moose) should she ever decide to run again, this is a slight reminder to the financially vulnerable NY Times that if Ms. Caroline Kennedy (D) graciously accepts the coronation as NY senator there is loads of information on her available in their own backyard.
    —————————–
    Crack reporters or reporters on crack? I am not sure NYT has any of the former.

  102. Thanks guys for answering my question.

    wbboei, I wish I had watched that myself, but I did question my hubby and asked him what anyone said after McCain said he wouldn’t support her. He just said that when he was asked why, he just said there were other good governors that would be running. I don’t know if that was the extent of it all or not, but I was furious that McCain would even say something like that after Sarah dropped everything in Alaska and took her family and ran all over the country stumping for him. She worked her heart out for him and this is how he thanks her? She reminds me of Hillary. I think they are both good people and hard workers and upright.

  103. I’ll tell you, I have turned against more people in this election than I ever did in my lifetime, lol. I don’t think I can ever trust any politician except for Hillary and Sarah, ever again. I am just so disillusioned.

  104. I was upset with what McCain said about his support for Sarah in 2012. Here is the article:
    McCain refuses to endorse Palin for president in 2012: ‘I can’t’
    CNN

    Monday, December 15th 2008, 7:46 AM

    Fusco for News

    It looks like John McCain and Sarah Palin won’t be campaigning together again anytime soon.
    Related News
    Articles
    Suspicious fire burns Palin church
    Palin proved a party albatross
    Sen. John McCain said Sunday he would not necessarily support his former running mate if she chose to run for president.

    Speaking to ABC’s “This Week,” McCain was asked whether Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could count on his support.

    “I can’t say something like that. We’ve got some great other young governors. I think you’re going to see the governors assume a greater leadership role in our Republican Party,” he said.

    He then mentioned governors Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Jon Huntsman of Utah.

    McCain said he has “the greatest appreciation for Gov. Palin and her family, and it was a great joy to know them.”

    “She invigorated our campaign” against Barack Obama for the presidency, he said.

    McCain was pressed on why he can’t promise support for the woman who, just months ago, he named as the second best person to lead the nation.

    “Have no doubt of my admiration and respect for her and my view of her viability, but at this stage, again … my corpse is still warm, you know?” he replied.

    In his first Sunday political TV appearance since November 4, McCain also promised to work to build consensus in tackling America’s challenges, and criticized his own party for its latest attack on Obama.

    McCain rejected complaints from the Republican National Committee that Obama has not been transparent about his contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    “I think that the Obama campaign should and will give all information necessary,” McCain told ABC’s “This Week.”

    “You know, in all due respect to the Republican National Committee and anybody — right now, I think we should try to be working constructively together, not only on an issue such as this, but on the economy, stimulus package, reforms that are necessary.”

    McCain’s answer came in response to a question about comments from RNC Chairman Mike Duncan. The RNC also released an Internet ad last week, titled “Questions Remain,” suggesting Obama is failing to provide important information about potential links between his associates and Blagojevich.

    Blagojevich was arrested Tuesday and charged with trying to trade Obama’s Senate seat for campaign contributions and other favors.

    “I don’t know all the details of the relationship between President-elect Obama’s campaign or his people and the governor of Illinois,” McCain told ABC. “But I have some confidence that all the information will come out. It always does, it seems to me.”

    McCain said he, like Obama and many other lawmakers, believes Blagojevich should resign.

    Despite the heated nature of the race and attacks both former candidates lobbed at each other, McCain emphasized that he plans to focus on pushing lawmakers past partisan politics.

    Put the three w’s and the h t t p : / / in front of it.

    nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/15/2008-12-15_mccain_refuses_to_endorse_palin_for_pres.html

  105. Los Angeles Democrat Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
    More and more, I am coming to believe that Obama himself is homophobic.
    ——————————————————————————
    The lady ( president elect ) doth protest too much, methinks.

  106. That doesn’t sound like a dis of Governor Palin by McCain. How can he make an endorsement for 2012 now? It’s like Al Gore staying neutral–the smart thing to do.

  107. If the American People were willing to turn off their cnn, nbc, msnbc et. al. and not vote for the candidates they push, they could break the back of big media. Instead, they are like the addicts who walk by my residence every morning on their way from the methodone clinic to the starbucks store. They pass the local dope pusher who stands on the street corner and, and buy a $20 bag for auld lang syne. The cops drink coffee, eat donuts and talk baseball. If Norman Rockwell were alive he could set that one to canvas.

  108. Some will say they reap what you sow……only fools fell for the Obama myth, while true gay pioneers like Elton John supported and raised millions for Hillary. See also Rosie…..

  109. Canaan Says:

    December 19th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    ————————————–
    Canan: I suppose you are I agree his answer was more like temporizing. But knowing how they tried to drive a wedge between him and Palin, and to label her an extremist he should have been more forceful. He could have said something about how she was treated. Instead, he gave a tepid response which they could spin and did not exactly burnish his credentials with the base whom he had cultivated so assiduoulsly. And why in the hell is he giving interview now anyway.

  110. JanH Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 10:19 am
    turndown,

    Drudge had the following:

    McCain Declines to Back Palin in 2012:

    John McCain pointedly refused to say Sunday that he would back former running mate Sarah Palin if she runs for president in 2012, saying there are plenty of other good people in the Republican Party to consider, such as Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman.

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    It was definitely a tough question. Put on the spot, he probably thought he was being diplomatic, but could have been more specific and not left himself open to being criticized.
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    This is not a FULL, IN CONTEXT

  111. Sorry that went off too soon.

    Drudge is not even CLAIMING to give a direct quote from McCain. We need McCain’s own words, plus context, to get any conclusion out of this. Drudge twists things in the most destructive way.

    If anyone wants to dig for some real facts here, teamsarah.org? might have something.

  112. Some will say they reap what you sow……only fools fell for the Obama myth, while true gay pioneers like Elton John supported and raised millions for Hillary. See also Rosie…..
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    Correct: is it true tat 75% of gays who voted voted for Obama. If so he betrayed them and they should be irate.

    Someday, someone, somewhere who believed there was a messiah this side of the grave will wake up and say OMG Hillary was the true progressive in the race, and we fell for a corporate shill who pretended to be one of us. How many bridges must Obama burn, how many voters must he throw under the bus before his supporters stop lying to themselves and see life as it really is. He has broken most of the promises he made to them and we are not even to the innauguation.

  113. wbboei, said:
    (Note: I do not profess to know what all was behind his comment. I assume loyalty means something to him. But based on the little I know I did not like his answer either)
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    Your pardon, Counselor, but have those exact words yet been placed in evidence here in h44?

  114. Drudge is not even CLAIMING to give a direct quote from McCain. We need McCain’s own words, plus context, to get any conclusion out of this. Drudge twists things in the most destructive way
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    turndown> amen

  115. turndown & wbboei,

    I did not mean to imply that it was a direct quote. It was the one that I found and was hoping that his full statement was a better one.

  116. wbboei Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
    If the American People were willing to turn off their cnn, nbc, msnbc et. al. and not vote for the candidates they push, they could break the back of big media. Instead, they are like the addicts who walk by my residence every morning on their way from the methodone clinic to the starbucks store. They pass the local dope pusher who stands on the street corner and, and buy a $20 bag for auld lang syne. The cops drink coffee, eat donuts and talk baseball. If Norman Rockwell were alive he could set that one to canvas.
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    🙂

    Well, Blue and I are working on it at Midstreamnews.blogspot.com

    Terribly dull project: links and quotes from news stories that really are news, without spin and slant; just as a reminder of what the standard used to be.

    More leads heartliy sought. Real news, not op-eds. Well, I suppose I could add an op-ed section….

  117. Sorry, I really must learn to read threads from the top down. 🙂 Just found this and posted it at PumaResponders.blogspot.com and to the email list.

    [ The media is trying to spin this as negative to Palin, but here are soem of McCain’s actual words. – tdo ]

    “Have no doubt of my admiration and respect for her and my view of her viability”
    [Re 2012:] “I can’t say [about] something like that. We’ve got some great other
    young governors. I think you’re going to see the governors assume a
    greater leadership role in our Republican Party,” he said.
    He then mentioned governors Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Jon Huntsman of Utah.
    McCain said he has “the greatest appreciation for Gov. Palin and her
    family, and it was a great joy to know them.”
    “She invigorated our campaign” against Barack Obama for the
    presidency, he said. [….]
    “Have no doubt of my admiration and respect for her and my view of her
    viability, but at this stage, again … my corpse is still warm, you
    know?” he replied.

    h t t p : / / http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/15/2008-12-15_mccain_refuses_to_endorse_palin_for_pres.html
    Comment box is about half way down this page, between the story and
    the comments. My name was already on the box as we have had many
    alerts here. Comment went right up.

  118. JanH,

    Sorry, I did understand. I was just criticizing what I supposed was a journalist giving a negative paraphrase instead of a real quote.

    My instinct was right, though. The story I just posted a link to, has a version that is not negative at all, is praising Palin; so all the negative versions have been spin.

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