TIME’s Flim-Flam Man Of The Year – Madoff Obama

It’s been a big year for flim-flam con artists. Barnard Barack Madoff Obama. It’s been a year of something for nothing. It’s been a year when Hopium became the drug of choice. The scams have been many.

Time Magazine’s Washington bureau chief Jay Carney dictated the magazine’s 2008 election coverage and now he announces he will work as Joe Biden’s flack and that Obama is the “Time Magazine Person of the Year“. Obama meanwhile tutors respected reporters as to what questions to ask. This is truly the year of the flim-flam.

The $50 billion fraud by Bernard Madoff is more proof, not that any is needed, that supposedly smart people are capable of doing the dumbest things. No doubt many of Bernard Madoff’s dupes will turn out to be Barack Obama dupes too.

Madoff’s scam further threatens banks and severely exposes hedge funds. HSBC, Fortis, Royal Bank of Scotland, BNP Paribas, Banco Santander, Nomura, Man Group, EIM Group, Tremont (MassMutual), Fairfield Greenwich, all fell into a financial Hopium daze.

Some of the “brightest” are dupes. A Steven Spielberg charity, a foundation set up by Mort Zuckerman, dozens of Jewish organisations, sports team owners and Senator Lautenberg of New Jersey all fell under Madoff’s (and Obama’s) spell.

City analysts said that even banks who invested only on behalf of clients could end up on the hook, because clients are almost certain to sue for bad advice.

Mr Madoff confessed last week that his business was “all one great big lie”. The investment returns were fake, and he had been paying old clients with money from new ones. In its conception, the scam is a classic. In its size, it is breathtaking, eclipsing anything seen before.

Madoff was one of Wall Street’s best-respected investment managers, able to harvest money from a vast network of contacts and to trade on his name as a former chairman of the Nasdaq stock exchange.

These allegedly smart people accepted what Madoff told them at face value. They did not look at the reality behind the big smile and the backslapping. The big smile and the backslapping, to hide the lack of experience and substance, are the hallmarks of the scam artist.

In Illinois, Democrats continue to scam the public. Realizing that a genuine election could result in voters awarding the former Obama senate seat to a Republican, Democrats with their 67-51 majority in the Illinois House, have decided not to strip Governor Blagojevich of the appointment power. Democrats also will not schedule a special election which potentially will repudiate or at least embarrass Barack Obama.

Today the Illinois Supreme Court laughed Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan out of court. Lisa Madigan and her dad Mike Madigan who runs the Illinois House tried to scam the courts into a declaring Blagojevich “nuts” and thereby pave her way to the Governor’s mansion and absolve non-nuts Illinois politicos. It didn’t work. Blagojevich is not nuts. Blagojevich is business as usual in Obama’s Chicago.

Illinois Democrats have made their scam clear: it’s better to deny the 13 million Illinois residents representation in the U.S. Senate than risk listening to voters.

Without a special election or an appointment by Blagojevich Illinois will simply not have their full representation rights in the U.S. Senate.

Another potential scam implicates Governor Bill (Judas) Richardson.

A federal grand jury is investigating how a company that advised Jefferson County, Alabama, on bond deals that threaten to cause the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history, did similar work in New Mexico after making contributions to Governor Bill Richardson’s political action committees.

The grand jury in Albuquerque is looking into Beverly Hills, California-based CDR Financial Products Inc., which received almost $1.5 million in fees from the New Mexico Finance Authority in 2004 after donating $100,000 to Richardson’s efforts to register Hispanic and American Indian voters and pay for expenses at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, people familiar with the matter said.

The potential Commerce Secretary might require another Special Prosecutor to determine the truth in yet another potential pay-to-play scam.

The investigation reflects another front in nationwide efforts by U.S. prosecutors to investigate so-called pay- to-play in the municipal bond market. The term refers to banks and advisers who make political contributions or personal gifts to public officials in return for fee-paying financing assignments.

It all seems all too familiar.

One of the people called to testify before the Albuquerque grand jury said federal investigators asked if Richardson’s office directed the state agency to select CDR. Investigators also asked about how responses to a request for investment advisory services were scored.

Another person familiar with the probe said the thrust of the investigation is whether people in Richardson’s office influenced the selection of CDR. The person said the U.S. Attorney identified subjects of the investigation, not targets, which means prosecutors have yet to gather substantial evidence linking anyone to a crime.

The Richardson related potential scam involves municipal derivatives and whether some banks consipired to scam the cities of Atlanta, Fargo, and Johnson City, Tennessee. Philadelphia, North Carolina, are just a few other places in the national investigation of bid-rigging and price fixing in the municipal derivatives market.

The Obama crime lords, preparing their move to Washington, will have lots of company in skullduggery.

The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind forward. Lot’s of people are going to squeal.

When it comes to coming clean, nothing is as motivating as a wiretap.

Last week’s revelation that Gov. Blagojevich was secretly recorded in his campaign office and on his home phone has prompted more than a dozen potential witnesses in recent days to come forward. They’ve been calling investigators and defense lawyers to talk about deals or discussions they’ve had with Blagojevich.

One prominent criminal defense attorney, who asked not to be named, said he alone received calls from three potential clients claiming to be victims of pay-to-play schemes under the governor.

“This is something they’ve been carrying around that they finally want to talk about,” the attorney said.

Other lawyers say they’ve been contacted by potential witnesses or subjects of the investigation who believe they are discussed in the complaint or who believe they may have been recorded.

The scams are huge. The scams are nationwide. The scams are many. The scams involve many players. There is one huge story that has not been discussed much. It involves, once again, the SEIU. In Illinois, Blagojevich wanted a union to help him by establishing some sort of charity for him to run. In California:

A nonprofit organization founded by California’s largest union local reported spending nothing on its charitable purpose — to develop housing for low-income workers — during at least two of the four years it has been operating, federal records show.

The charity, launched by a scandal-ridden Los Angeles chapter of the Service Employees International Union, had total expenses of about $165,000 for 2005 and 2006, and all of the money went to consulting fees, insurance costs and other overhead, according to its Internal Revenue Service filings.

Charity watchdogs say that nonprofits should never have zero program expenses in two successive years and that well-performing charities direct at least 70% of their annual spending to their charitable purpose.

This apparent scam was granted exemption from taxes by the I.R.S.

The watchdogs were snorting Hopium.

Now Caroline is starting her scam.

The watchdogs are snorting Hopium.

The Flim-Flam men and women are in charge.

It’s the year of the Flim-Flam.

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120 thoughts on “TIME’s Flim-Flam Man Of The Year – Madoff Obama

  1. Hey! I commented!

    Oh well, maybe this will get through.
    first, everyone check drudge for a BO pic hat will either leave you laughing or crying. http://www.drudge.com

    This is from the confluence about journalism’s continuing slide into the abyss. 2 ‘journalists’ now on the BO team who covered him during the elections.
    ‘Jay Carney is leaving Time magazine after 20 years to be Vice President-elect Joe Biden’s communications director in the White House, astonished magazine and gleeful transition sources said.

    […]

    This is the second member of the media elite who has signed on with Obama’s administration. ABC News correspondent Linda Douglass joined the campaign as traveling spokeswoman, and now is working for Obama’s Presidential Inaugural Committee.

    Hmmm. Probably no big deal, right? Jim Geraghty:

    Job offers don’t come together overnight, and for obvious reasons, the hiring process and job interviews are usually confidential. But this means that now we have two examples where members of the press were “covering” the Obama campaign while at the same time angling for a job with them. Not exactly an ideal circumstance for criticism, fairness or objectivity.

  2. Admin, you’re on a righteous mission! This was the worst part of the prospect of an Obama administration – the export of the Chicago Way to the rest of our nation. I hope that people begin to understand the primordial ooze of Illinois politics that begat PEBO.

  3. Oops- did not see “new article is up.”

    Reposting…

    The headline says it all:

    Obama team defends Emanuel in Blagojevich probe

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A senior adviser to President-elect Barack Obama defended chief of staff Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday for his contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s office about filling Obama’s Senate seat.

    Blagojevich has been charged with plotting to sell Obama’s Senate seat in a nakedly corrupt act and the Obama presidential transition team has been working to distance Obama and his inner circle from the scandal-tarred governor.

    But the Chicago Sun-Times reported on Wednesday that Emanuel had privately urged Blagojevich’s administration to appoint Obama confidant Valerie Jarrett to the Senate seat that Obama vacated when he was elected president November 4.

    Emanuel had asked the appointment be made by a certain deadline, the newspaper said.

    Emanuel is a Democratic member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Illinois chosen by Obama to be his White House chief of staff.

    Obama senior adviser David Axelrod offered a strong defense of Emanuel on MSNBC a day after Obama refused to answer a question about the Blagojevich case at a Chicago news conference because the U.S. attorney has the case under investigation.

    “I’ve known Rahm … for a very long time. I’ve worked with him closely. He is someone who I think has enormous integrity and unparalleled skill. And I think we’re lucky to have him,” Axelrod said. “I have no concerns about Rahm. He is an enormous asset to us and will be an enormous asset to the country, as he has been in the Congress.”

    The Blagojevich case has been an unwelcome distraction for Obama at a time when he is focused on plans aimed at rebuilding the U.S. economy when he takes power on January 20.

    Last week Obama said details would be released in a few days about the extent of contacts between his team and Blagojevich’s office, but on Monday he said he would delay the release until Christmas week at the request of the federal prosecutors.

    He said he had no contact with Blagojevich about the Senate seat and that any discussions between the two sides by his team had not been inappropriate.

    Discussing the Senate seat would not be illegal. But what has remained unclear is whether Emanuel or Jarrett, who removed herself from consideration for being appointed to the Senate seat, were aware that Blagojevich was seeking a financial reward from whoever was picked.

    Axelrod said the Obama team was eager to release its report.

    “When you see it, it will corroborate what the president-elect has said, which is that he never spoke with the governor or any of his aides about this and that. There were no inappropriate discussions between members of his staff and the governor’s office in this manner. And that, I think, will be very clear,” he said.

  4. BTW, I wonder if CK wants to be in the Senate because she feels she has to fill her late brother’s shoes. Remember, he was rumored to want to run for the Senate.

    Also, I was LOL reading about her upstate NY trip where she avoided the press. Yeah, like she’ll be able to get away with that for long. If you’ve made the decision to be a public figure, you’d better be prepared for the consequences.

    And if I see one more Bot (Roland Martin, for example) comparing CK to Hillary I’ll scream. Hillary didn’t seek an appointment to the Senate, doofuses, she ran for election. There’s a huge difference.

  5. basil9 Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
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    Basil, ROFL! Too cool for words. LOL.

  6. I also wonder if CK just assumed she would get the seat and never thought she’d actually have to visit upstate, contact Dem power brokers, etc. At least she’s having to jump through a few hoops.

  7. And if I see one more Bot (Roland Martin, for example) comparing CK to Hillary I’ll scream. Hillary didn’t seek an appointment to the Senate, doofuses, she ran for election. There’s a huge difference
    —————————————
    Jan: in a democracy that is true. We elect our leaders. Obama and his chicago crew have corrupted that process, but that is still the expectation.

    A feudal system is different. There rank is conferred by the accident of birth and family name is the determining factor. Mad King Ludwig of Bavaria is a shiny example of that system.

    Caroline Kennedy is not qualified for the job. This sends a terrible message to our children that a trust fund baby can seize power by the simply accident of birth and the collusion of big media.

    Meanwhile people who know the system, worked hard and have a proven track record of service to constituents are forgotten. Constituents suffer as a result.

    Is this really any worse than what Governor Blog is doing. If Governor Patterson succumbs after he has said qualification counts is he really any better than his Illionis counterpart?

  8. birdgal,
    that pic is TOO bizarre! Notice his eyes, slittish and half-closed, the cigarette held like a joint, the effiminate position of the arm, the gold bangle around the arm – in fact, IS THAT HIS ARM??? And if it’s not his arm, who’s is it?

    And what about that hat????????

    EVERYONE – check that pic and let us know your reaction.
    http://www.drudge.com

  9. Please!

    Check the pic at drudge! Whose arm is that? It can’t be his – it looks like some woman is holding the cig (joint) up to his mouth.

  10. Microsoft has issued a patch they say will take care of the Internet Explorer flaw they just found 3 days ago in IE5 thru IE8 Beta.

    My computer buddy told me to still hold off thru Sunday using IE to make sure it works…they did it way too fast. Windows has already automatically downloaded it to me, so the minute I shut down or go into hibernation, it will install automatically. I’m still not going to use it till Monday or so.

  11. basil9 Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
    Please!

    Check the pic at drudge! Whose arm is that? It can’t be his – it looks like some woman is holding the cig (joint) up to his mouth.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    Is that REALLY him???

  12. basil9

    I just checked again, like this morning, but can’t find the picture, unless it’s that little cartoon down the right side.

    It’s just 3 ? columns of headlines. Give me a little more guidance…. please.

  13. Emjay,

    It’s the headline pic at Drudge and it’s still there.

    it is a most bizarre pic.
    I heard on some news show today (can’t remember which) that someone who knew Bo at Occidental took these photos and had just released them . . .
    I wish I could post the pic here . . . maybe admin can . . .
    I don’t know why you can’t see it but maybe it’s the link . . . when i clicked on the link i posted i only got text, too so i pulled up drudge separately.
    could you try that and get back with your thoughts?

  14. basil9, imho it is the Huckster and I have never considered him a manly man, more of a ‘girlie’ man to quote Arnold. And as expected he is inhaling. rofl.

  15. “…28 years later, a series of 36 photographs taken in 1980 by his fellow student Lisa Jack gives a sense of the 20-year-old Barry Obama in search of self. Jack, now a psychologist, never realized her dream of becoming a photographer. But she recently unearthed the cellophane-wrapped negatives in her basement and dusted them off for publication. “I’m not political,” Jack says. “[But] these are historical photos, and they should be shared.”

    Jack met Obama, she recalls, through a friend of a friend who thought he’d make a good subject for her black-and-white portraits. She doesn’t remember much about first encountering him at the Cooler, a campus snack shop. “He was really cute,” she says. “What else does a 20-year-old girl remember?” But they soon set a date for a shoot at Jack’s apartment, a “decrepit old place” a block from campus.

  16. BTW, I see no difference in Blagosonabitch and Paterson should Caroline Kennedy be annointed. I want my old country back, now, please.

  17. shorttermer,
    Not that I find ‘effiminacy’ unattractive but considering what a friggin homophobe he is (Or pretends to be) it’s jarring to see him in that pose. Check the other pics in the link above.
    After seeing them I’m more convinced than ever that we’re screwed. the guy is obviously high as a kite and has a much practriced air the way he holds the cig like a joint.

    BTW, I posted this yesterday but never got back to check responses;
    Anyone else think Spitzer was set up for a fall so Patterson could step in and pave the way for CK>oe it is

  18. shorttermer,

    I will be livid if DP appoints CK.
    They’re pulling out all the stops, now. She even traveled upstate today, near me, to syracuse, but I heard she wouldn’t answer reporters questions.

    I’llbet part of the high-profile coverage she’s getting now is aimed at distracting from blago-gate but i also think this has been in the works since at least February if not years earlier.

  19. $1 Million Scandal Latest To Hit ACORN
    As Evidence Mounts, Congress Must Investigate and Install Taxpayer Protections:

    ACORN and its affiliates have a multi-decade history of fraud and abuse of taxpayer funds. Recently, the
    Consumers Rights League released a whistleblower report that uses internal ACORN documents to highlight alleged misuses of taxpayer money by ACORN Housing Corp, which took in 40% of its funds from the government and sent more than a million dollars to ACORN’s affiliate, Citizens Consulting.

    Now, The New York Times reports (“Funds Misappropriated at 2 Nonprofit Groups,” June 9)that ACORN has hid since 2001 the embezzlement of nearly $1 million by the brother of ACORN’s founder from that same organization–Citizens Consulting.

    Additionally, ACORN is currently under investigation for potential voter fraud all across the nation.

    With millions of dollars transferred from AHC to these affiliates, it is entirely plausible that taxpayer funds are funding much of this fraud. Yet, Congress is poised to reward these organizations with hundreds of millions more dollars. The current housing bill working its way through Congress (HR 3221) would create a multi-billion dollar
    housing fund from which these organizations could draw vast sums of money.

    These groups operate as a complex family of political and non-profit organizations that freely move
    funds from one to another. More and more evidence of fraud and abuse surfaces seemingly every day.

    Only a thorough investigation will reveal the truth. Congressmen Feeney, Royce and Hensarling have asked Chairman Frank to hold hearings. But so far, Chairman Frank has chosen not to act or to acknowledge the problem.

    This document provides a brief overview and some examples of ACORN and its affiliates’ long history of fraud and abuse as well as recommendations that should be included in HR 3221 to protect taxpayers and prevent new abuses.

    http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/Latest%20Million%20Dollar%20ACORN%20Scandal.pdf

  20. for thought;

    An interesting tidbit from TD who discovered BO’s Chicago address links to the Socialist Party SF hdqrters.

    ” texasdarlin has a very nice walk through of how if you google Obama’s address, it is linked not to a Chicago number, but to a San Fran phone number. And that number belongs to….the Socialist party.

  21. I pulled it up separately too and got it…it is the #1 google choice, not the second one.

    He looks stupid…course some of my old pics did not do me justice either. LOL. It is BO, the bone structure from top of hand to first knuckle is really long . Really all it appears to be is just embarrassing

  22. Well my last post is awaiting moderation. I posted an article about acorn (with a link to the Consumers Rights League).

    The text is as follows:

    $1 Million Scandal Latest To Hit ACORN
    As Evidence Mounts, Congress Must Investigate and Install Taxpayer Protections:

    ACORN and its affiliates have a multi-decade history of fraud and abuse of taxpayer funds. Recently, the
    Consumers Rights League released a whistleblower report that uses internal ACORN documents to highlight alleged misuses of taxpayer money by ACORN Housing Corp, which took in 40% of its funds from the government and sent more than a million dollars to ACORN’s affiliate, Citizens Consulting.

    Now, The New York Times reports (“Funds Misappropriated at 2 Nonprofit Groups,” June 9)that ACORN has hid since 2001 the embezzlement of nearly $1 million by the brother of ACORN’s founder from that same organization–Citizens Consulting.

    Additionally, ACORN is currently under investigation for potential voter fraud all across the nation.

    With millions of dollars transferred from AHC to these affiliates, it is entirely plausible that taxpayer funds are funding much of this fraud. Yet, Congress is poised to reward these organizations with hundreds of millions more dollars. The current housing bill working its way through Congress (HR 3221) would create a multi-billion dollar
    housing fund from which these organizations could draw vast sums of money.

    These groups operate as a complex family of political and non-profit organizations that freely move
    funds from one to another. More and more evidence of fraud and abuse surfaces seemingly every day.

    Only a thorough investigation will reveal the truth. Congressmen Feeney, Royce and Hensarling have asked Chairman Frank to hold hearings. But so far, Chairman Frank has chosen not to act or to acknowledge the problem.

    This document provides a brief overview and some examples of ACORN and its affiliates’ long history of fraud and abuse as well as recommendations that should be included in HR 3221 to protect taxpayers and prevent new abuses.

  23. The photo is Bo, the cig is a ‘joint’ and he is ‘stoned’…too bad these pictures weren’t available during the primaries!

  24. basil9 Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    shorttermer,
    Not that I find ‘effiminacy’ unattractive but considering what a friggin homophobe he is (Or pretends to be) it’s jarring to see him in that pose. Check the other pics in the link above.
    After seeing them I’m more convinced than ever that we’re screwed. the guy is obviously high as a kite and has a much practriced air the way he holds the cig like a joint.”
    ***********
    The vague focus of the eyes, the “goofy” smile..he looks wrecked to me.

  25. jeleanoro,

    Just like all the other smoking guns, it was fired after the fact.

    And I’d love to know if someone could figure out the cig contents through visual analysis.

    Oh well. Again, not that I’m anti -all recreational drugs but for someone who has insisted he’s squeaky clean . . .

  26. Ya gotta love Dobbs.

    he just laid the BO – Patterson – Caroline – Chicago connection on the table. Good for him.

    He also said it looks like Chicago is spreading east. 👿

    The bad news is in some poll Andrew Cuomo beats CK by just 28 – 23.
    D@MN! I just moved to NYS! I may haveta look into moving out!

  27. On the topic of NY’s senate seat, I think it was all decided a long time ago. Ted kennedy via BO wanted Hillary out of the senate to open the seat for CK. I wish Hillary would change her mind and stay in the senate.
    I live in NY and I will not vote for Patterson if he does this. I may not vote for schumer either. I can’t believe I feel this way. I have been a democrat my entire life….but no more. They disgust me. They are just as bad as the Republicans.

    It’s time for an Honesty and Integrity Party in this country, but as one of my friends said, there would only be 3 or 4 people in it.

  28. Today, I have been thinking about McCain and wondering why he did not fight harder and play all the cards that were dealt to him. Was it because he is too much of an officer and gentlemen to get down in the mud with the Chicago Machine? Or was there perhaps more to it. What I am about to say is just conjecture.

    I have a close friend who was in the Korean War. He was with one of the elite groups–probably the 82nd Airborne. His unit and Chesty Pullers Marines were hit hard when Chinese forces swept into Korea near Chosin Reservoir, thanks to the negilgence of MacArthur.

    My friend was captured and was thrown in a prisoner of war camp. In the morning Chinese guards would walk across steel grates and urinate on the prisoners who were incarcerated below. They cut off two of his fingers. One time I tried to get him to talk about it and he broke down crying. I shut up and changed the subject.

    The Uniform Code of Military Justice describes the duties of a soldier who is captured. He is advised to divulgename rank and serial number only, to make good faith efforts to escape and it then expects the adversary to defer to the Geneva Convention assuming the adverary is signatory.

    But it does not address the horrors which actually occur in prison camps nor what soldiers actually do to avoid them–just to stop the pain. They use torture to extract information, and if the soldier is of low rank he probably does not know much, so whatever he dicloses does little or no harm. More often than not.

    What I am suggesting is that the reason McCain pulled so many punches he could have thrown at Obama may have been because his Chicago crew uncovered information about his stay at the Hanoi Hilton that was not consistent with his reputation as a hero, but revealed that he is a fallible human being just like the rest of us. In other words not the reincarnation of seigfried.

    If you will recall there a North Vietnamese guard at the prison camp who was mentioned in a newspaper article and was prepared to give evidence on prisoner McCain. His name was never mentioned and he never came forward to testify. Presumably he would have contradicted the war hero image in some way.

    We know how the Chicago Machine operates. As Admin pointed out they delve into the sex lives of adversaries (an otherwise boring subject) and they come up wiht information to blackmail them. I suspected Axelrod might possibly be the master of this until Dick Morris assured us Axelrod is an uncommonly honest political advisor. What a wonderful character witness to have.

    As I recall they did break John finally. His father Admiral McCain gave him a pass –same as I would. I think John is a hero but no hero is perfect.

    There were two other guests at the Hanoi Hilton who were there longer than he was. One was Admiral Stockton who became Perot’s running mate. The other was Congressman Sam Johnson an airforce flyer who spent seven years in that torture chamber. He sponsored a bill I wrote on workplace violence so I had a chance to meet him. He was an old gentleman with a chivalrous manner, a fine staff but physically disabled as they all were from the ordeal.

    To go through that kind of ordeal for your country, run for public office and have a low class political opponent blackmail you over if–if that is what happened, which would explain McCain’s reticence–to protect his reputation would be a hell of a load. Again, if that is what happened. I do not know. I only suspect–knowing that blackmail is the Chicago Way.

  29. I checked in on FOX and the three nitwits O’really,Twinkle toes Morris and Dennis the mouth Miller.What a sad sack of waste these sorry individuals put forth in continuing to attack Hillary and insisting that she lost her nomination by misteps in her campaign.The fair and balanced hate network is never going to accept the fact that she did win and the DNC stole votes and gave them to BO.After seeing some of her latest photo,I realize that I miss her great mind and great love for her country.She is ready for day one in her new and well deserved SOS duties.This troubled world will see the the most remarkable woman of our time take charge of a role even greater than that of the soon to be annointed CIC and her presence on the world stage will be a major work of art for all to see and take comfort in knowing that we will survive this dangerous period in our lives because the right person will calm and reassure our friends and enemies that world peace is first and foremost her goal.

    By ABM90 Lack of seeing and hearing Hillary at work along with the revision work at Big Pink has heightened my withdrawl symptoms and I can’t wait for day one of her confirmation.

  30. OH NO!!!!
    ANOTHER KENNEDY vying for a senate seat???? (BO’S)!!!!!!

    BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

    Is Chris Kennedy, the son of the late, great U.S. Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, a possible entrant on the list to fill Presidentelect Barack Obama’s Senate seat?

    • • To wit: Sneed hears Kennedy’s name has been wafted into the inner circle of Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn, who would be the guy who chooses Obama’s replacement if Gov. Blagojevich resigns.
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    Michael Sneed

    • • Quoth Dem politico Jay Doherty, a Kennedy confidant: “It would give Pat Quinn the answer to the puzzle before him if he becomes governor.”

    • • The upshot: Word is Kennedy, who is also the nephew of Sen. Ted Kennedy, a major Obama supporter, is likely to accept if asked.

  31. Basil, so does this Kennedy live in IL? This is beyond sickening, especially along with TK wanting his wife to take his seat. Is there no way to control this? Jeez. This is not a democracy.

  32. seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008528989_obamadig17.html

    EMJAY this appeared in a Seattle newspaper. I not sure if it answsers all of your questions, but It does tell some of what is going on.

  33. My friend was captured and was thrown in a prisoner of war camp. In the morning Chinese guards would walk across steel grates and urinate on the prisoners who were incarcerated below. They cut off two of his fingers. One time I tried to get him to talk about it and he broke down crying. I shut up and changed the subject.”
    *************
    IIRC, the experience of POWs during the Korean war lead to a change in the “Name, rank, serial number” standard. The current Article IV is more “common sense”…basically obey your officers and don’t “rat out” your fellow POWs.
    Article IV:
    If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way”

    Rove et al trashed McCain for his time as POW during the 2000 primary…I don’t know if the ‘obots could have done worse….McCain never claimed hero status..for me, anyone who was a POW is a hero.

  34. It’s time for an Honesty and Integrity Party in this country, but as one of my friends said, there would only be 3 or 4 people in it.
    ————————————–
    Well said Carol. Just like the American Revolution it starts with a small group. One of our best journalists Greta Van Sustern reminded us of something President John Adams wrote.

    No one knows the personal cost of sacrifice that the revolutionaries made for the freedom of this nation. If the people of this country did not become aware of this and behave accordingly then he would lament their sacrifices from heavn for all eternity to come.

    John’s wife Abagail was one of our greatest patriots. She loved our country deeply and supported it and her husband in every way. She is part of that tradition which Michelle was never proud of until Barack decided to run, and she could see some benefit$$$ in it for her.

    Yes, this is the long grey line MO will be joining and history will judge her accordingly “for all eternity to come”. Or, in her venacular: “not gonna take none of his shit” as she was recently heard to say. Poor Calvin Kline.

  35. Rove et al trashed McCain for his time as POW during the 2000 primary…I don’t know if the ‘obots could have done worse….McCain never claimed hero status..for me, anyone who was a POW is a hero.
    ————————————
    SHV: thanks for the clarification on UCMJ. I agree McCain never claimed he was a hero but this was the thrust of his campaign with the stars and the videos of him taking off the aircraft carrier–it was a central plank of the campaign. Would you not agree. If that is so, then the supposition I have advanced makes sense. I mentioned the newspaper article and I remember a little more about it–that the guard was prepared to say that he got preferential treatment. My reaction at the time was who would believe him but my studied reaction is why would he come forward at all–except at someones invitation. In addition, I now recall statements from people in Michigan that the Obama campaign was prepraring to attack his war record and my contact told me he thought it would backfire. So this is not a figment of my imagination but a credibile possibility. Perhaps you see it differently?

  36. wbboei Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
    Perhaps you see it differently?
    ***********
    Not really..Only that I think McCain was immunized to some extent by the attacks in the 2000 SC primary. The “McCain the song bird, got special treatment, he received a medal for every 30 sec he was in combat, etc.” I was seeing some of this stuff on the left blogs but it didn’t seem to be getting any traction. Why didn’t he put up a better fight? I don’t know but my feeling is that his polling said he couldn’t win and he didn’t want his reputation tarnished by being called a r*cist. I also think the RNC didn’t want to win ’08, figuring 44 would be a one term President and are planning for ’12 and beyond.

  37. I was speaking with one of our bloggers a few minutes ago who agrees with me that the Obama campaign did something to neutralize McCain but has a different theory on what it was than what I suggested. She believes that Axelrod’s oppositon research team came up with dirt on McCains wife Cindy and schlepped it to the New York Times. Then that paper dutifully assigned 3 investigative reporters to the story, who went in the sewer to come up with a destructive story on Cindy. The day before the story was released McCains attorney wrote a letter to the editorial board of that newspaper asking that it not be published. But they published it regardless, while they refused to publish negative information about Obama and his wife. The implication was they would release more information. That could also be the factor that caused him to run an anemic campaign. Something surely did and on the odds it can be traced to Obama and the Chicago Machine. They just aint kosher.

  38. SHV: you may be right but I was privy to a few of his internals and they were showing a better result than what actually occurred. As I recall they showed close races in a number of key states like Pennsylvania and Florida etc. I thought he put the racist genie back in the bottle when Obama attacked him with it earlier–didnt look like all the other presidents, etc. You may indeed be right but that is why I looked past those things in my search for some semblance of the truth. After the massive cheating we saw in the caucuses, and the massive intimidation of the superdelegates, and the presence of the Illionis Combine who specializes in corrupt practices I am less inclined to do what I normally do which is to try the benign explanation first. Apart from what you have already suggested which makes sense, so you think perhaps the attack on his wife was a contributing factor as well?

  39. Another reason he would be sceptical of polling results was because of the Bradley effect which was assumed to exist but reall didnt and because the hangup rate on poll calls was 70% and the methodology was screwed up. Who would have guessed that 10% of his base would stay home? I did not hear much about the republicans losing the election before the election but after they did we heard alot of that from Gingrich, Morris et. al. I am leaning more toward a combination of what you said and the wife angle. I am less enamorate of the war hero angle. What is your take on the wife angle?

  40. Apart from what you have already suggested which makes sense, so you think perhaps the attack on his wife was a contributing factor as well?
    ************
    That would make more sense to me. I have a hard time believing McCain would back off because of attacks on him…If the illegimate AA/Vietnamese child didn’t work, I am not surewhat else would. The threat of non-stop attacks on Cindy, however, might have worked…I doubt if we will ever know..but Obama/Axelrod are capable of anything.

  41. That would make more sense to me. I have a hard time believing McCain would back off because of attacks on him…If the illegimate AA/Vietnamese child didn’t work, I am not surewhat else would. The threat of non-stop attacks on Cindy, however, might have worked…I doubt if we will ever know..but Obama/Axelrod are capable of anything.
    ———————————-
    SHV: I agree. And that would be true in any marriage where the couple love eachother as I am sure he and Cindy do. But when the wife is a multi million dollar heiress the power relationship may cause further deference to her wishes, and I am not sure she really enjoyed the campaign that much.

    The opposite was true of Michelle (Material Girl) Obama. For her it was blissful because it provided the perfect forum for her to tell the rest of us how ignorant we are and how lucky we all are to have Barack and her to save us from ourselves and by the way Abagail Adams move over!

  42. wbboei, if Axelrod/Obama have blackmailed McCain and spouse, what are the chances the same thing has happened to Hillary and Bill. This seems to be the way he neutralized his competitors. I hope we will figure this out before we lose our country.

    They have some interesting info on TexasDarlin. They are claiming BO’s personal phone number in Chicago is being answered by the National Socialist Party and that BO has never been a member of the Dem party. He was a member of the Socialist Party in 1996.

  43. Obama is the vigin in the whorehouse so said some brave soul above. Well put. He is an unsoiled dove in a sea of sqalor–except for Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc. The only question I have is this: at what point do the exceptions swallow the rule?

  44. wbboei, if Axelrod/Obama have blackmailed McCain and spouse, what are the chances the same thing has happened to Hillary and Bill. This seems to be the way he neutralized his competitors. I hope we will figure this out before we lose our country
    —————————————–
    Connie: let us hope Patrick Fitzgerald does. He is fighting the battle to save our country. It is just that simple.

  45. They have some interesting info on TexasDarlin. They are claiming BO’s personal phone number in Chicago is being answered by the National Socialist Party and that BO has never been a member of the Dem party. He was a member of the Socialist Party in 1996
    —————————————-
    A subtenant perhaps?

  46. Wbboei,

    I guess we’ll never know, will we?

    The one thing that’s irrefutable is THAT ONE is the PEBO!
    ———————————–
    Basil: translation?

  47. Personally, I think there were a number of elements in play that worked against John McCain.

    Yes the NY Times article about Cindy went too far, but the Republican Party also were late up to bat for their man of the hour and some actually continued to worked against him. McCain himself was stymied by honorable intentions. While the dims had no problem using every dirty trick in the book, McCain refused to go after his opponent in ways that, by repetitive coverage, might have made a difference, i.e. Wright, Rezko, et al. His sense of fair play and ethical behavior hog-tied him. His choosing of Sarah Palin (although an impressive choice to many) also angered many voters on both sides of the aisle. Then there was the over-saturation of Obama’s face and voice everywhere and media representation so favorable that one wonders if anyone could have stopped this man. Dirty money exchanged hands like there was no tomorrow.

    I believe that Hillary went through much of the same. The DNC supported one choice and one choice only, as did the media. Her strength, despite the obvious bias, collusion and subterfuge that took place amazed me. I’m not into conspiracy theories. I think she dropped out because of party loyalty, but especially because she wanted to live to fight another day. As well, I believe she wanted her continued good works and Bill’s to stand for something. I have no doubt that the dims would have stopped at nothing to stomp and ripped their reputations to shreds had they stayed on. She left with dignity and her head held high.

    Of all the players in this mockery of an election season, Hillary comes out very well in all of this. No matter what they do, she will shine as SOS. On the other hand, the inexperienced and criminally inept Obama will be known as the crib-sheet president…a puppet the likes of Mortimer Sneed with many “Edgar Bergen” handlers pulling his strings.

  48. basil9 Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
    Hey! I commented!

    Oh well, maybe this will get through.
    first, everyone check drudge for a BO pic hat will either leave you laughing or crying. http://www.drudge.com
    &&&&&&&&&

    Oh poop, it was not the picture shown, it showed Caroline K.

  49. Madoff to face “difficult time” trapped inside luxury apartment; apparently, he can only order take out from restaurants without any stars:

    &&&
    abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6480363&page=1

    House Arrest for Madoff in $7 Million Apartment
    SEC Chairman Says No Staff Wrongdoing Found Yet, But Internal Inquiry Will Investigate

    Bernard Madoff, accused of the largest fraud in U.S. history, will be allowed to remain in his $7 million Park Avenue apartment instead of being sent to jail, under terms of an agreement announced today by federal prosecutors.
    (snip)

  50. JanH: Absolutely on the mark about our Hillary.Very few if any other couple in modern day politics that has sufferedmore indignities and character destructing lies than these two great har working Americans giving their all to make this country and the world a better place in which to live and prosper.I must also say that only another woman can understand the selfish deeds that the good ole boys club can dish out in their cradle to grave job preservation turf fight.If we are able to see this fight for Hillary to be the real legal and just CIC when BHO implodes and we sweep away the remains of his lust for power failed policies our efforts time and emotional ups and downs will be priceless. memories.

    By ABM90. A profound optimist and I thrive on it.

    By ABM90

  51. Jan-that analysis plus the comments by SHV are excellent. My original question was a narrow one–why did McCain not fight harder.

    I believe it is imperative for us to understand everything we can about how this unholy alliance of the dimocrats, big media and the Chicago Machine took over our political system. The answers proffered to date have been few and fr between. Also, we must ask how were they able to reduce the critical thinking faculties of so many Americans to those of eight year old children. I have seen it in people I know.

    As for conspiracies I absolutely believe in them. I believe people with political ambitions conspire routinely, use whatever tools are available to them and meet-discuss-agree to a course of action beneficial to their interests and detrimental to others. Frankly, I find nothing remarkable in this. I think what you are saying is you do not believe in conspiracy theories based on quantum leaps in logic or soft evidence. But that is why we sometimes here throw out theories and pressure test them as we did here.

    The hopium we are seeing right now isnt even a dress rehersal. It is more like walking into a baseball park before game time, watching a pitcher throw to the catcher with no one at the plate and seeing a crowd marvel at his form while the announcer calls balls and strikes against an imaginary batter. WTF.

    A year from now some of the deluded may come to their senses and realize they have been bamboozled. If the economy or the investigation weigh against him he will begin to lose altitude prior by year 2 or sooner. If he fails it does not mean the country fails. It will mean that the country wins.

    I try to remember two things. First, his success and our success as a country are not one in the same. If he represents bad people then it is better that he not succeed. Second, in the final analysis the man is a Chicago politician and the world will learn that honest Chicago politician is an oxymoron. In my judgement these are bad people–malum in se and the sooner people get it the better off our country will be.

  52. ShortTermer Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
    BTW, I see no difference in Blagosonabitch and Paterson should Caroline Kennedy be annointed. I want my old country back, now, please.
    &&&&&

    I’m not sure this idealized version of the USA ever existed; there’s been corruption and “royal families” since the damn Pilgrims got here.

  53. wbboei Says:

    December 18th, 2008 at 9:02 am
    Jan-that analysis plus the comments by SHV are excellent. My original question was a narrow one–why did McCain not fight harder.
    &&&&&

    And Hillary. Both of them fought hard, but refused to “go to the mats”, and both sought to preserve their good names and image, so they acquiesced to be remembered as “good sports” rather than “sore losers”. But really, both should have been more willing to knee cap the Kid.

  54. “I think what you are saying is you do not believe in conspiracy theories based on quantum leaps in logic or soft evidence.”

    —————————

    Thanks wbboei. I did mean exactly that although my words didn’t come across that way…writing in a hurry and on an emotional topic…lol…

    ———————

    In regards to Roland Martin and his column discussed yesterday, I would ask him to show us his Messiah’s/president-elect’s resume (the undoctored one) and explain to us mere mortals just what makes obamalite qualified/experienced enough to take on the job.

  55. “…But really, both should have been more willing to knee cap the Kid.”

    ——————————
    rgb44hrc,

    I would have loved to see him brought to his knees that way.

  56. If we are able to see this fight for Hillary to be the real legal and just CIC when BHO implodes and we sweep away the remains of his lust for power failed policies our efforts time and emotional ups and downs will be priceless. memories.
    ———————————
    ABM 90: right on. And if four years from now the world says we could have had Hillary regardless of what big media says then the collective efforts of all of us will not have been in vain. The concern is that as she moves to a world stage and exhibits inspired leadership she is capable of to an appreciative audience, press and world hierachy she may conclude that her career ambitions are best exerted in that venue and the office of president immersed in a sea of corruption and vile big media poison may lose some of its allure. But we never know for sure what the future holds do we.

  57. Admin and all,

    I hope you will indulge me. I never thought anything would make me feel worse than I already do about BHO. I honestly have to admit this one shocked me.

    Below is a statement by Equality California that i couldn’t agree more with.

    *****
    Equality California Denounces Selection of Rick Warren to Give Invocation at Obamma’s Inauguration
    In response to the invitation of Rev. Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama, EQCA Executive Director released the following statement:

    “It is appalling that President-elect Barack Obama would invite California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren, an ardent supporter of Prop 8 and someone who is opposed to the equality of LGBT Americans, to give the invocation at his inauguration. It is a slap in the face to the millions of LGBT Americans who supported his historic candidacy. Would President-Elect Obama invite someone to give the invocation who supported eliminating the civil rights of a minority other than the LGBT community? Of course he wouldn’t!

    “President-elect Obama should immediately rescind this invitation. It would be impossible for any self-respecting LGBT person to be expected to participate in the inauguration where a vocal opponent of our equality is given such a prominent role.” EQCA is asking its members to sign the following petition to President-elect Barack Obama at http://www.eqca.org/takeaction.

    MORE

    Read full story from gay_blog.blogspot.com
    ****

  58. basil9 Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
    OH NO!!!!
    ANOTHER KENNEDY vying for a senate seat???? (BO’S)!!!!!!
    &&&&

    Imagine, the Senate filled with 100 Kennedy’s!

    “Hello, Uncle”
    “Hello, Nephew, hello Niece”
    “Dad!!”
    “Son!”

    Oy.

  59. How ironic that the New York Times would be the one to stick the harpoon into McCain with that libelous story on Cindy, which they dredged up from the sewer and published over the objections of his lawyer which went on to point out that how biased their coverage of the election had been. The reason it is ironic is because for years he was the darling of the New York Times. Granted he moved to the right and his position on the Iraq War which they too originally supported provide a small fig leaf. But the larger truth is the fact that that newspaper is a scumbag.

  60. rgb44hrc

    Now wasn’t that the problem with the Clinton,that they were building a dynasty? I guess it is OK for the Kennedy’s, regardless of the fact they have show that JFK was inexperienced, they were busy into extra hours activies, and that there genentics produces some pretty interesting limbs.

  61. Joe-Teddy-Caroline: three generations of Kennedys is enough. (Note: we do make exceptions for Robert Jr., and Kathleeen).

  62. Madoff to face “difficult time” trapped inside luxury apartment; apparently, he can only order take out from restaurants without any stars:
    —————————————-
    rgb: agreed. It violates the eight amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

  63. Yes, the Clinton Dynasty extends back to…to…oh shoot.

    Going forward, who knows how many “Clintons” will be running around Washington? So far, we have one potential, Chelsea (who signed my t-shirt in Philadelphia at the Diner backin April). Yep, a veritable “clan”.

  64. Chris Kennedy in Illinois? Agreed….. sickening. There is a growing grassroots movement afoot here to promote the special election – largely funded by IL GOP, it is seeing the light of day and getting louder. This may mean that legislators will have to think twice before deciding whether to prioritize legislation ordering a special election (Rod has said he’ll sign it) or impeachment (Pat Quinn will appoint…. Kennedy?).

    Fellow Patriots – we have so many choices to make about what to do next: the New Women’s Party? Honesty and Integrity Party? There is much so work to be done.

  65. So AOL has a lead article on his choice of Rev Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at the inaugural. He is the minister of a S CA church that is leading a charge against Gay marriage in CA.

  66. As a Jewish American I am stunned by the support BO received in our community….A man who without precondition, will meet with those whom openly state their desire to create another Holocaust. Sittiing in my son’s Hebrew class this past week, I was ashamed of how ignorant and or guilt ridden we are to have voted for BO….Hillary unequivocally stated she would bomb Iran if it posed a threat to Israel.

    Lastly, I grew up idolizing all things Kennedy. This election really showd me that some of them are no different than any other power hungry politician. I will always respect JFK , Bobby Kennedy, and a few otheres. However, my opinion of Teddy and Caroline has changed from one of great respect to utter contemopt.

  67. eddy Kennedy is a thoughly corrupt human being. He has killed two women, damaged many people and as he confronts mortality is trying to leave the stain of his legacy on the senate.

    If this is to be done at all, it must come through free and open elections absent the corruption of the chicago machine. In that case, it is the will of the people. It is accepable in that instance.

    But to do it as he does now through threats and intimidation from the shadows like the Irish thug he is, is an insult to our democracy and morally reprehensible in my judgment.

    I only hope it is resisted tooth and nail by those who believe in democracy, and see this as an act of theft against the American People.

  68. rgb44hrc Says: I’m not sure this idealized version of the USA ever existed; there’s been corruption and “royal families” since the damn Pilgrims got here.
    =============

    With all its faults, I expect we’re getting more of the truth now with the internet, than was ever available before.

  69. NewMexicoFan Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 8:50 am
    Two comments in moderation. Not sure why. The link had the http off of it both times.
    =============

    I suspect you also have to leave off the / / : or put spaces bewteen them as I did here.

  70. turndownobama

    That was off also, as they started with www so not sure why I had the problem, as I have not in the past. Oh well, I guess it was my turn.

  71. OBAMA: THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT, NOW F__K OFF

    From NQ, this post discusses how women’s groups and LGBT groups are coping with the cold shoulder, under-the-bus treatment, as if they had NO CLUE that Obama would do that to them. To quote Bob Dylan:

    How does it feel,
    to be on your own,
    with no direction home
    like a complete unknown
    like a rolling stone.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/18/this-is-why/#more-8915

    Some excerpts from the link, posted by Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy:

    You know, I really don’t relish having to say, “I told you so,” but dammit, I did. So did a whole bunch of other people. Obama has never done ANYTHING but give lip service to the GLBT community – WHEN are people going to get that through their thick heads???

    And really, for SLDN (Servicemembers Legal Defense Network) to be so gung-ho after Obama has put off – AGAIN – his “commitment” to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” until at least 2010 just blows my mind. Wow.

    Don’t get me wrong, they are both good organizations, and do good work. But, really, what in the WORLD in Obama’s history makes them think for one SECOND that Obama is going to do ANYTHING for this community? He has demonstrated time and time and time AGAIN, with his actions, his words, and his associates, that he doesn’t give one good damn about the GLBT community. Yet there everyone is, falling all over themselves to connect with The One. How sad And infuriating.

    Add to that this email I got today from WomenCount, and I am just bashing my head against the wall:

    ******* start of WomenCount email*******
    Dear Friends,

    In recent days we have been urged by some of our colleagues in the world of women’s advocacy to call attention to President-elect Obama’s failure to nominate more women to his Cabinet.

    Rather than speak out, we have given him the benefit of the doubt and encouraged others to do the same – until now.

    With this week’s announcements, the new Cabinet stands at 14 men and 4 women. That puts the current percentage of women in the Obama Cabinet at 22 percent – and there are only four Cabinet-level openings left to fill.

    President Clinton’s first Cabinet – 16 years ago – was 37 percent women. In his second term, it climbed to 47 percent women. President Bush began his first term with 22 percent women in his Cabinet. We want that number to go up – not go down or stay the same!

    Some more math: women make up 51 percent of the American population and 56 percent of voters. In the 2008 presidential election, women voted for Obama 56 to 49 percent over men.

    Dozens of qualified women have been recommended to fill critical slots on the incoming leadership team.

    We urge the President-elect and his transition team to act now to improve their record of commitment to naming women to senior positions in the new Administration. It’s not too late.

    Such a lack of progress for women underscores the need for real change – now. WomenCount has launched a major petition campaign calling on President-elect Obama to create a Presidential Commission on Women in his first 100 days.

    If you haven’t done so, join our call for t he new administration to begin a national conversation on the future of women in our country.

    Increasing the number of women in appointed and elected positions in just one of the many issues a Presidential Commission on Women would address.

    **** end of Women count email *******

    OHMYGOSH – they are KIDDING, right?? The man who ran the most sexist/misogynistic campaign in DECADES not doing right by women???? Well, golly gee willikers, how can THAT possibly be? Maybe they can put on some Ludicris, Obama’s BFF, and listen to it while they figure this one out. Or how about Jay Z’s, “99 Problems But A Bitch Ain’t One” while they consider why they ever thought a man who flipped Hillary off, brushed her off his shoulder – TWICE – and said not word ONE about his minions’ misogynistic, vulgar language toward her OR Sarah Palin, and pays the women on his staff less than the men, would have more women in his Cabinet.

    Have I mentioned that Rev. Rick Warren is also ANTI-CHOICE?? But yeah, Women Count (and PPA, and NARAL, and Emily’s List) – y’all just go ahead and believe that Obama is really going to put more women in his Cabinet.

    So far I have refrained from flat out name calling to these people and organizations who are just too blind, too uninformed, too ignorant, and operating with too few brain cells, actual names. But holy Freakin’ Toledo, it is becoming harder and harder to do so. This is me biting my tongue.

    Seriously – Obama has done virtually NOTHING to make these people THINK he is going to do these things except words, not at all backed up by actions. In fact, he has already reneged on a number of promises made (FISA anyone). A man (and woman) is only as good as his word, and Obama has made it abundantly clear that the words he says are only to advance his own career, not because he actually CARES about these issues.

    Yet, despite his constant deeds showing where he really stands, like asking Rick Warren, proponent of Prop 8, to conduct his Inaugural Invocation, there they still are, fawning and swooning, just waiting for that crumb to drop from the table. Wow. What does it take? Really – what the hell does it take before these groups stop revering this man who has done nothing for them. No, rather he has done things that negatively affect them (remember, he is opposed to Same-Sex marriage, no matter how much people like Ellen Degeneres sang his praises and conveniently failed to mention in her attacks on Sarah Palin for the same thing), and associates himself with known homophobes.

    Maybe Jon Stewart should have this conversation with Rev. Warren AND Barack Obama

  72. Bill Clinton publicly released the names of his donors, and naturally there’s nothing really embarrassing there, like we already knew. Of course, that doesn’t stop the AP (Beth Fouhy, of course) making the statement that the Clintons repeatedly refused to release the donor list during the campaign – leaving out the key fact that they said they would if she got the nomination. BTW, I got a fundraising e-mail from Bill’s foundation yesterday, and it was from Chelsea. I wonder if she’s taking over day-to-day running of the foundation.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap_campaignplus/20081218/ap_ca/clinton_foundation_donors

  73. Also, a couple of observations on CK:

    1) I read something on AOL’s front page last night (I was in a hurry and couldn’t post it here) from a blogger who said sources in NY say Paterson isn’t keen on CK and finds the CK buzz an annoying distraction from his attempts to put a budget together.

    2) HillBuzz is in NY and says people he’s talked to think the fix is in and she’ll get the seat. However, one woman said Paterson is known as a loose cannon who doesn’t like being told what to do; but she still thinks the unions are pressuring him to pick CK and have threatened to withhold support from Paterson if he doesn’t.

    BTW, I think that woman is right about Paterson. I read elsewhere that he’s known as a political free agent. It sure would take a lot of balls to go against the MSM and the Kennedys, but maybe he has it in him. If it’s not CK, I’ll bet he goes with Andrew Cuomo.

  74. 2) HillBuzz is in NY and says people he’s talked to think the fix is in and she’ll get the seat. However, one woman said Paterson is known as a loose cannon who doesn’t like being told what to do; but she still thinks the unions are pressuring him to pick CK and have threatened to withhold support from Paterson if he doesn’t.
    &&&&

    Paula:

    Why are the unions so interested in CK? Her scanty public works raising money? Can’t other rich people claim that kind of job experience? Don’t the unions have some proven fighter, someone who has run for office, that they could back? Or is it all just about favors?

    Hmmmm. “We’ll back CK, but then we’ll expect favors in return”. The whole parade of people cashing in on Obamamania (reporters working for the O-dministration, etc.) is disgusting. I hope all those magazines with his big face everywhere wind up at the recycling bin. Yeah, yeah, “history was made”, now shut the fork up. You’re all a bunch of corrupt weasels.

  75. What a horrible way to start the Holiday season…..BO as our new President and a do-nothing aristocrat as NY Senator….

  76. BTW, I think that woman is right about Paterson. I read elsewhere that he’s known as a political free agent. It sure would take a lot of balls to go against the MSM and the Kennedys, but maybe he has it in him. If it’s not CK, I’ll bet he goes with Andrew Cuomo.
    ———————————-
    Paula: I hope that is right. Recall I had speculated earlier he is not forceful. I hope I am wrong and he is strong enough to resist this extortion. If she were qualified, is she knew the political stucture, if these were not very difficult economic times for the state which require strong experienced leadership then it might be a closer question for him. To put her in that positon now is madness and so for him the question boils down to this: do I do what is right for the state of New York or do I succumb to extortion?

  77. What a horrible way to start the Holiday season…..BO as our new President and a do-nothing aristocrat as NY Senator….
    ————————————-
    . . . in dire economic times.

  78. So, we may have two new Kennedy senators. One from NY, and the other from IL. This is beyond disturbing. There is some heavy pressuring and lifting going on. I have utter contempt for TK.

  79. Hey, what about the other 99 do-nothing senators??? (okay, let’s take HRC out of that, it makes 98…

    On the bright side, the only way BO can be impeached and removed from office is if he makes it to the inauguration / swear-in. And if the Supremes won’t let him assume the office, we’ll have to console ourselves with Pres. McCain.

    Anyone hear anything about Berg or other challenges?

    Starsky: “Huggy, my man, what’s the word on the street”
    Hutch: “Yeah, what about that gang making that new hustler a ‘made man'”
    Huggy Bear: “Yo, I have no idea what you’re talking about…But word on the street, and you didn’t hear it from me, is that Someone is thinking that they’re “all that”, but they ain’t, Pappa Bear is calling the shots, even though Goldilocks is ready to sleep in the bed. You know what I’m sayin’?”

    Starsky: “No frikkin clue”
    Hutch: “I think he just tipped us off that either a) there’s going to be a huge deal made down by the docks, or Obama is going to be found ineligible, or that McDonalds will be closed for renovation…”

  80. I hope so, too, wbboei. If you go by all his public statements since the CK push started, it does seem like he’s not exactly thrilled with her.

  81. I dont know how it is with you but I find comics like Leno, Letterman and Mahr excruciatingly boring. Mahr is also an asshole.

    To be a great comic, you have to be a little nuts. Johanthan Winters was a great comic and he was one french fry short of a happly meal. Ditto Robin Williams, whom we have not seen lately but he is a great one. Very creative.

    The reason of thought of him is because he has this great comic routine where the punchline repeated 800 times in the skit is: fuck off. Wouldn’t it be grand if Patterson had the stones to say that to Kennedy on the Caroline thing. Once would be enough.

  82. Starsky: “Huggy, my man, what’s the word on the street”
    Hutch: “Yeah, what about that gang making that new hustler a ‘made man’”
    Huggy Bear: “Yo, I have no idea what you’re talking about…But word on the street, and you didn’t hear it from me, is that Someone is thinking that they’re “all that”, but they ain’t, Pappa Bear is calling the shots, even though Goldilocks is ready to sleep in the bed. You know what I’m sayin’?”

    Starsky: “No frikkin clue”
    Hutch: “I think he just tipped us off that either a) there’s going to be a huge deal made down by the docks, or Obama is going to be found ineligible, or that McDonalds will be closed for renovation…”
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    RGB: priceless. If you decide to quit your day job Letterman could use you. Your material is great.

  83. # birdgal Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    So, we may have two new Kennedy senators. One from NY, and the other from IL. This is beyond disturbing. There is some heavy pressuring and lifting going on. I have utter contempt for TK.
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    IMO, If the NY and Il Senate appointees are associated with Obama, they will loose when they have to stand for their first election in ’10. The mild irritation that is beginning to be expressed by his cabinet selections, Rich Warren, he doesn’t answer questions, etc., will be in full force in two years. We have a pretty good idea who Obama is, the vast majority of the public doesn’t have a clue. Boy, are they in for a surprise.

  84. wbboei Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    To be a great comic, you have to be a little nuts.
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    Lenny Bruce.

  85. Ray LaHood??? I was scheduled to introduce him in Sun Valley one time, so I stuggled to put a few introductory comments together, but he never showed. Recently, I saw him on C-Span for the first time. He was one of the republicans retiring from Congress. They get a pension on completion of three terms. Like I say I never met him so this was a case of first impression. I found him uninspiring–lots of meaningless rhetoric. He is from Illionis however thus it is reasonable to assume that he is part of the combine. If so he is right out of central casting. So it is unsurprising that he would show up in bambis cabinet.

    Illinois Underground: do we have any g-2 on this critter?

  86. Paula said:

    1) I read something on AOL’s front page last night (I was in a hurry and couldn’t post it here) from a blogger who said sources in NY say Paterson isn’t keen on CK and finds the CK buzz an annoying distraction from his attempts to put a budget together.

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    BO is historic because he marketed his way to the presidency…I see the same tactics no doubt created by Axelrot…do an early press alert that Caroline (Obama as Pres, Clinton as SOS) will get the position, the compliant press clamours for it, getting the public interested, putting pressure on people like Paterson (or back then, Superdelegates) to pick the person or face the faux public and press outrage – it’s all about creating a brand and making sure the people who want to buy it are louder than those who don’t.

  87. BO is historic because he marketed his way to the presidency…I see the same tactics no doubt created by Axelrot…do an early press alert that Caroline (Obama as Pres, Clinton as SOS) will get the position, the compliant press clamours for it, getting the public interested, putting pressure on people like Paterson (or back then, Superdelegates) to pick the person or face the faux public and press outrage – it’s all about creating a brand and making sure the people who want to buy it are louder than those who don’t.
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    So lets give those marketing whores an Edsel moment. If the product does not conform to elevated expectations it is relegated to the dust bin of history.

    Do we want leaders who are puppets, OR leaders who have the experience, judgment and intellect to listen to advisors, form an independent judgment and convince friends and foes alike that their solution is the right one.

    If we want a puppet then Caroline Kennedy is perfect for the job. Since she has no job related experience and a to the manor born attitude it is hard to see how she can be anything but a puppet. But if we want a leader then she is not qualified for the job. Simply put, the people of New York need a real senator as opposed to a useless celebrity who has led a pampered life and is supported by a corrupt press and uncle.

  88. for more on berg’s case and updates on the BC issue
    as of today berg’s case http://www.americasright.com/ has this

    “Wednesday, December 17, 2008
    Berg v. Obama to Reach Conference on January 9, 2009

    Philip Berg’s case against Barack Obama and the DNC, the first such lawsuit and the one broken here at America’s Right, will be discussed by the Supreme Court Justices at conference on Friday, January 9. This is the same type of conference seen in Wrotnowski and Donofrio, only Berg has filed a petition for writ of certiorari and not merely an application for emergency stay.”

    another site to check is this one: http://www.obamacrimes.com

    which has this today:

    12/18/08 – URGENT NOTICE – False rumors are circulating – Justice Kennedy denied our Application for an Injunction to Stay Electoral Vote Count by Congress on January 8, 2008. However, our Writ of Certiorari is still pending and is now scheduled for Conference before U.S. Supreme Court on January 9, 2008.

  89. Hi, Hillfriends: one of the first things I posted more than a year ago was about Obama as front-man for a “Daley-Kennedy Merger.” The picture is really coming into focus.

  90. December 18th, 2008 at 12:36 pm wbboei Says:

    “Illinois Underground: do we have any g-2 on this critter?”

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    Wbboei: he’s a prominent member of the downstate IL delegation – with a gubernatorial election coming up that is sure to be hard on IL Dems, BO probably took him out of action as a favor to Daley and/or Madigan. Downstate is always the swing part of our state. Still an unexpected choice. I’ll make a few calls over the next two days and get back to you all.

  91. wbboei Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    . I found him uninspiring–lots of meaningless rhetoric. He is from Illionis however thus it is reasonable to assume that he is part of the combine.
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    I think the La Hood appointment is more a symptom of Obama’s sociopathic sense of humor. Ray La Hood lead the House debate on the impeachment of W. J. Clinton. In addition La Hood voting record is reactionary…His Progressive Punch score is 13% ,,,the worst Dem., Gene Taylor D-MS, looks positively brilliant with a score of 53%

  92. I remember reading that the politics in Illinois are so bad that the dems and repubs are all in it together…it just feeds itself so repubs keep quiet because they are all part of the same system there…so La Hood isn’t a surprise…maybe a way to placate the repubs back ‘home’ they know where all the skeltons are buried since it appears they are all in the same cemetary…

    I would not be surprised if Blago was set up to further push that daley-kennedy connection mentioned up thread…the only thing might be what Blago has on others…the whole thing and the timing seems very fishy to me…a complete takeover of the state could keep corrupt secrets and info in fewer hands….

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    I’ve been watching some of these endless O press conferences and something tells me the bloom is going to be off this flower relatively soon…he seems so ‘small’, so inexperienced…so not ready for the position is he about take on…and ‘suddenly’ a lot of people are beginning to realize that they really know nothing about O…

    and with the women already under the bus, and the gay community going under…and soon reporters will grow tired of stonewalling and realize they are also under the bus…things will change focus…

  93. I think the La Hood appointment is more a symptom of Obama’s sociopathic sense of humor. Ray La Hood lead the House debate on the impeachment of W. J. Clinton. In addition La Hood voting record is reactionary…His Progressive Punch score is 13% ,,,the worst Dem., Gene Taylor D-MS, looks positively brilliant with a score of 53%
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    Fascinating: kind of cuts against this image of the new administration as the super duper intergalactic reincarnation of the 1927 Yankees
    myth big media is promoting. Sets up a nice line of cross examination for an aspiring reporter:

    Question: Mr. President Elect . . . on behalf of all my fellow bootlicking members of the washington press corp— thank you for putting together that marvelous team of talented people you have meticuously chosen to populate your cabinet and tell you what to do (thunderous applause from the bootlickers)

    Answer: uh, uh, uh

    Question: you have shown great imagination in your selections. So I would like to ask you a question about one of your newest members–Ray LaHook. Since you selected him for a cabinet position, would I be correct in assuming that his views are compatible if not identical with your own?

    Answer: uh, uh, uh

    Question: then why is it that he has a he has a progressive voting record of 13 and is widely regardes as reactionary?

    Answer: uh, uh, uh

    Question: is that perchance the change we have been waiting for?

    Answer: I have been asked by Patrick Fitzgerald to entertain no further questions on that subject or any other subject I cant find an answer to.

    End of interview/

  94. Wbboei: he’s a prominent member of the downstate IL delegation – with a gubernatorial election coming up that is sure to be hard on IL Dems, BO probably took him out of action as a favor to Daley and/or Madigan. Downstate is always the swing part of our state. Still an unexpected choice. I’ll make a few calls over the next two days and get back to you all.
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    Thanks Illionis. But I think he was retiring anyway. If that is correct then there must be some other reason. It may well be a political payoff to the Republican side of the Combine, and then again it may not. It is at least an anomoly. If I knew more about his history in Illionis it might shed some light on this. If he is reationary the bots need to know about this. Just what SHV said would rain buckets at DK.

  95. Folks : MO did tell us that he hates details and paperwork.After he finishes his cabinet choices and various straphangers he won’t have to work anymore.He will establish a R&R camp in the pineapple state and keep a supply of pens on hand for the flow of bills called OINKS.Meantime he will re-write the constitution and the Bill of Rights and include his I had a dream amendments called Restitution and Retributions.New facility to be called”Camp Milk and Honey”.Get in line suckers!!
    I speak in jest of course but it may happen while Americans sleep and worry their lives away about “WHAT HAPPENED” ?
    The only consolation is the fact that Hillary is ready willing and able to take the helm when he is run out of the Whitehouse,maybe sooner than we now think.

    BY ABM90 If these words I write come true,My best years are still ahead.Relax guys and gals and keep your eyes on the boll weevil.

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