Obama’s Rezko Rodeo Roundup, Part I

The Obama Chicago Culture of Corruption today reminds us of a rodeo – bucking broncos and riders flying up in the air.

Americans need a Special Prosecutor to investigate Barack Obama and the Chicago gang and Patrick Fitzgerald needs another six-gun helping him out in Washington.

As we have mentioned in our earlier calls for a Special Prosecutor [see HERE and HERE] Big Media never vetted Obama and now his crime lords are moving in on Washington, D.C.

Big Media is doing its utmost to protect Obama and his Chicago Culture of Crime and Corruption. Big Media is trying to label Governor Blagojevich as somehow deranged and nuts. The idea is to paint Blagojevich as odd and extraordinary instead of what we know is true. Blagojevich is not nuts he is the norm in Chicago politics.

Big Media is also trying to portray Obama as a victim, as somehow hunted, the opposite is true. Obama has been pampered by Big Media. Today we learned how in the bag, as they say in gangland, Big Media is for Obama as Jay Carney the “news” bureau chief of Time Magazine signed up to be Joe Biden’s communications flack.

Some in Big Media tried or are just now beginning to try to vet Obama. Sarah Baxter of the London Times came to this website to trash us. [See HERE.] Sarah Baxter wrote in regards to Rezko we had “taken up the scandal with gusto“. Now Sarah Baxter once again writes a very good summary of the Obama Chicago Culture Of Corruption.

Baxter reports on the many conversations between John Harris and Rahm Emanuel. Baxter writes that questions remain over what Emanuel said when and how much he know about the governor’s “pay to play” scheme and the raising of $15 million for a “charitable” organization for Blagojevich to run.

Baxter also asks Did Emanuel receive the news, and if so, how? Did he report his suspicion of illegal activity to the FBI or did he treat it just as a normal part of wheeler-dealing in the corrupt Windy City?

Baxter notes the hostility to Fitzgerald from Obama’s gang which makes the need for a Special Prosecutor urgent:

Fitzgerald is a much-resented figure among Obama’s advisers. David Axelrod, the Chicago mastermind behind Obama’s campaign, once complained: “He goes after fleas and elephants with the same bazooka. At some point there is a line . . . where you begin criminalising politics in its most innocent form.”

Obama is “embroiled” in the scandal. Witnesses are lining up to squeal:

As Fitzgerald widens his inquiry across Chicago, witnesses will be lining up to talk – if only to save their own necks. Harris, who has been accused with his boss of planning to sell the Senate seat, resigned last Friday, prompting speculation that he intends to cooperate with federal investigators.

Ominously for Obama, Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the property dealer and fixer who helped him to buy his $1.65m house in Chicago by purchasing an adjacent plot on the same day, has also been talking to investigators in an attempt to reduce a prison sentence following his conviction for fraud and bribery. Rezko is expected to be a key witness in the corruption case against Blagojevich but he also knows more than anybody about the house purchase and other deals with Obama.

When the house came on the market, the seller insisted that both plots were sold at the same time. But while Obama bought his part of the property for $300,000 under the asking price, it has emerged that Rezko’s wife not only paid the asking price for their slice of land – $625,000 – but that the extra piece of property may have been deliberately overvalued.

A valuer who made an initial lower estimate, only to be overruled, is believed to be giving evidence to Fitzgerald’s team.

Rezko also appears to have helped Blagojevich with his domestic affairs. Investigators have been trying to find out whether he charged the governor for $90,000 worth of improvements to the family room and deck of his house.

The governor’s wife, Patti Blagojevich, a Lady Macbeth figure who may face charges herself for encouraging her husband to behave corruptly, received $47,000 in commission from a property deal involving Rezko.

In a further disturbing connection, Rezko regularly supplied Blagojevich with a “clout list” of names of people he thought the governor should appoint to state boards and jobs.

Obama made use of Rezko’s clout list on at least one occasion, when he recommended that Eric Whitaker, an old Harvard friend and doctor, be hired as director of Illinois’s public health department.

Whitaker, Obama said, “had expressed an interest in that job. He did contact me, or Tony contacted me, and I gave him a glowing recommendation because I thought he was outstanding”.

Fitzgerald made it clear that Obama is not a target of investigation. Emanuel is thought to be free from any threat of charges. But that will not be the end of the matter.

Welcome to the fight Sarah Baxter.

Meanwhile John Kass is ripping his Big Media friends for their complete protection of Obama. Kass knows that the ‘Blagojevich is nuts’ narrative is a scheme to protect Obama by making Blagojevich an exception and not the rule in Chicago. Kass writes with a bloody sword:

As everybody knows by now, Dead Meat was caught on federal tape, allegedly trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s Senate seat to the highest bidder. So Dead Meat was declared insane.

They pointed to those f-bombs on the federal tape and that crazy hair of his. The other paper in town even ran a hair “expose” on its Page 2, saying the governor’s ample hair helmet proved he was mentally unstable.

But that same day, I diagnosed Blagojevich as quite sane, because all he did was act like just another corrupt Chicago politician. He squeezed people. That’s how things are done in the city that is not Camelot.

Still, Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan asked the state Supreme Court on Friday to declare Blagojevich “disabled.” She called on the justices—some of whom are there by grace of the Chicago machine—to remove Blagojevich, pronto.

“State government is paralyzed by a governor who is incapable of governing,” Madigan insisted. “We would look to the fact that the term ‘disability’ legally is very broad, that it is not simply isolated to a physical or mental disability.”

Incapable of what? Signing his name to bills? He can sign his name, to bills, or to a federal witness list, which would be much nicer. But they don’t want that, or another week or two of Gov. Dead Meat leading the nightly news.

After stubbornly refusing to see Chicago politics as it really is, the national media are finally paying attention. That’s great news for most everybody, except for our politicians.

Kass bludgeons state Attorney General Lisa Madigan as a self-interested Chicago pol and just another Caroline Kennedy, Chicago-style:

Madigan’s stunt was treated as legitimate jaw-dropping news by the national networks. She declared herself “the people’s lawyer,” over and over. [snip]

What they didn’t report on the evening news is this: Lisa Madigan is more than just “the people’s lawyer.” She’s a candidate for governor and Dead Meat is in her way. Her daddy is Mike Madigan, powerful boss of the machine’s 13th Ward and speaker of the Illinois House who hates Dead Meat.

Her dad wants to make her governor. She wants to be governor. And the best way to get there is to whisk Dead Meat into a political straitjacket and lock him in the political version of a padded cell.

This business about the governor’s sanity didn’t begin when he was charged. It began during the state budget battle last summer, when Mike Madigan’s spokesman, Steve Brown, told reporters in Springfield that the governor was a psycho.[snip]

That was funny. And now, Jay Leno and Dave Letterman and Conan O’Brien repeat variations of it, buttressing the Democratic mantra that what comes out of a madman’s mouth cannot be believed.

Why is Big Media desperate to sell the narrative that Blagojevich is nuts? To protect Obama.

But just imagine if Dead Meat talks to the feds, or stands up on his hind legs to fight back if fellow Democrats impeach him in the Illinois legislature. The governor might actually mention a few of the legislators’ deals. Ouch.

Obama, though not personally implicated in any of this, wouldn’t like it much. The national media outlets were desperate to portray him as someone about to transcend our politics. But in Chicago he was just a smooth guy on the way up, looking the other way.

Blagojevich, to quote Hyman Roth from the film The Godfather, is just small potatoes. Rezko and his pal Obama is at the center of the Obama Chicago Culture of Crime and Corruption. The Wall Street Journal does the honors:

The pay-to-play case against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich puts another Chicago political figure back in the spotlight: developer Antoin Rezko, a onetime fund-raiser for Barack Obama who was convicted in June of influence peddling.

Mr. Rezko appears to be playing a key role in the case against Mr. Blagojevich, which, coupled with an unrelated, recently filed lawsuit in that state, could give Obama critics grist for their attempts to tie him to corrupt Chicago politics.

The lawsuit filed in Illinois has been ignored by many, but not here, not in this pink website. The lawsuit will finally seek answers to Obama favors for Rezko in exchange for the mansion Obama calls home. Rezko at the time was torturing Obama constitutents but Obama sided with the slumlord – a preview of what Obama will do in Washington.

Earlier this year, Mr. Rezko wrote a letter to the judge in his own criminal case in which he complained that federal prosecutors in the office of U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald “are pressuring me to tell them the ‘wrong’ things I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama.” [snip]

Mr. Rezko this week seems to have changed his mind about Mr. Blagojevich, who was accused by Mr. Fitzgerald of attempting to auction off Mr. Obama’s vacant U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, among other misdeeds. [snip]

“Rezko has proffered [information] with the government in hopes of receiving a recommendation from the government for a reduced sentence,” the affidavit says. On Thursday, the federal judge in Mr. Rezko’s case abruptly suspended his sentencing proceedings. People familiar with the case said this was a clear signal that Mr. Rezko’s cooperation was moving forward. Because cooperating witnesses use their testimony to get lighter sentences, judges delay giving them prison terms until their assistance to prosecutors has been completed.

Mr. Obama’s other connection to Mr. Rezko revolves around a patch of land adjacent to Mr. Obama’s Chicago home that he bought in early 2006 from the disgraced developer’s wife for about $100,000. Mr. Obama has since called the deal “boneheaded” on his part. Obama representatives have said that the purchase of the adjacent properties by the Obamas and Ms. Rezko weren’t related.

In October, a lawsuit was filed in Illinois state court by Kenneth Conner, a former employee of an Illinois bank called Mutual Bank. His suit says he was fired after raising questions in connection with a $500,000 loan that largely financed Ms. Rezko’s purchase of the vacant lot, a portion of which she later sold to the Obamas.

The suit includes an internal bank email from October 2006 discussing the receipt of a federal grand jury subpoena seeking information about the Rezko lot loan. The suit alleges important information was removed from the loan file before it was turned over to authorities. There is no evidence Mr. Fitzgerald has been looking specifically at the Obama-Rezko transaction.

If Fitzgerald is not examining at all, not specifically, but rather not at all, the “Obama-Rezko transaction” then perhaps a Special Prosecutor will have the time to do so.

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318 thoughts on “Obama’s Rezko Rodeo Roundup, Part I

  1. Admin,

    What’s your take on what BO said in his presser and the BM spin about it? It’s being reported (on Dobbs) that Fitz requested BO not release any info until next week which, coincidentally, corresponds with Fitzmas and Bo going on vacation for a week!

    That’s why I don’t trust Fitz! Doesn’t this sound like a fitz/BO collusion to you?

    :evil:p, that BO

  2. basil9, it just seems too good to be true in this day and time, doesn’t it? By that I mean that our nation would have a modern day Elliot Ness and that he would be honest and determined.
    Big Pink the backdoor to Hillary’s War Room, indeed. As Rumsfield would say, My goodness! I wish.

  3. Wonderful essay, Admin. Thank you for keeping this going! (Wow, I’m first!)

    Perhaps all the facts will come to light in their proper place in the Blago (BTW, pronounced “Blay-go”) sanity, uh, I mean “impeachment” hearings. But, despite the fact that it is the most appropriate legal recourse (we don’t have recall) everyone is studiously trying to avoid impeachment. Blago must know all the details of Obama’s self dealings and was attempting to blackmail the new CIC in return for his golden parachute out of the statehouse. It seems that BHO should have been motivated to help him. Can’t wait to see what happens in the next chapter.
    * * * * **
    And from previous thread:
    December 15th, 2008 at 5:10 pm djia Says:

    “DO YOU THINK THIS IS JUST MORE PAY TO PLAY?…OBAMA PROTECTION VIA MSM???…I DO”
    * * * * * *
    djia: “YES!”

  4. December 15th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, ShortTermer Says:

    “Big Pink the backdoor to Hillary’s War Room, indeed.”
    * * * * *
    Shortermer: I heard this often when I began reading – more than a year ago. Where was this cited recently?

  5. rgb44hrc Says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
    Maybe Blago gamed the gamers, pre-sprung the trap, threw in a cheese ball to set off the mouse trap…forced them to move up their timetables, and possibly invalidate their case against him. And if he can successfully portray it as a flawed witch hunt (which we saw with the Gov. of Arkansas, who was truly framed), he just might retain his governorship and cling to power. Granted, his political life has now drastically changed for the worse, but who knows.
    ———————————————–
    There is no way that Guv Blago is that clever, that smart. A Rube Goldberg machine like that requires a brain, in addition to pure animal survival instinct.

  6. I have heard rumors that Blago’s wife was the real estate agent on Rezko’s purchase of the side lot. Is that accurate? Does anyone know?

    It’s so wonderful having this place to come back to and sort out the issues. Admin – thank you for hanging in there.

  7. Sorry about the the stolen key reference, when the Clinton’s left office. That was before my big Pink Days, so I obviously did not have the correct information. Thanks for the correct information, as I had always wondered why they would do such a petty thing.

  8. Admin,

    Your article is brilliant, as always. But anyone else got a gnawing in the pit of their gut that this is even worse than imagined? I mean, ferchissake – Bo is already floundering . . .

    What the heck is gonna happen when he gets sworn in? i dunno. I just have a horrible feeling about all this.

    And what about the BO mortgage scandal? How’d he get a Fannie Mae mortgage on a 1,4 million mansion when the Fannie limit is 417G?

  9. basil9 – good question about the Fannie Mae mortgage deal. Yikes, if only that were available to us mere mortals.

    I’ve always thought that the house deal, start to finish, was the smokiest of the smoking gun. The, ME-chelle’s federally funded pay raise still is the second smokiest. BHO should have quit smoking.

  10. Admin: this is a truly superb analysis of what is going on.

    Basement Angel: seems like its been awhile. Glad you are back.

  11. Dobbs agrees with my take on BO’s presser.

    Says he’s never heard him so tediously over-the-top careful like he was self-censoring even the uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uhs.

    Something’s up.

  12. On Fitz supposedly asking BO to ‘wait’, from truthteller at nq.
    What does everyone else thnk about this? Isn’t the timing suspiciously convenient for BO?

    ‘Fitzgerald confirmed his office asked Obama not to release the materials his attorney may or may not have compiled. This leads me to ask why an internal investigation of Obama’s office would interfere with Fitzgerald’s probe? Are members of Obama’s transition staff already under investigation? That a conflict would arise if evidence from an internal investigation that claims everyone is innocent were released reveals that there is more to the what Obama discovered during the internal investigation than what he related to reporters today.

  13. wbboei, yes your right Bobby’s kids are not corrupt, but the rest OMG, they should be relegated to their quarters at Hyannisport for their lifetimes.

  14. I am just sick about Hillary’s seat, it feels very much like their are trying to rub her nose in it everyday. First Susan Rice and now Caroline Kennedy, whats next?? The lady on CNN seemed to be laughing at Hillary today when she was talking about Caroline!

  15. from NQ:

    PEBO’s Monday presser:

    Reporter: “Mr. Present-Elect, when can people expect to see jobs created?”

    PEBO: “I have no crystal ball.”

    Wow that’s leadership! He sounded tired and cranky.

  16. Admin: Your posts and comments are truly a work of art.You comment with clarity and with words that are not a challenge to some of us that want to be involved in this fight for stopping BHO from destroying our Democracy. Hillary is our best hope for
    guiding our country on the path to peace and prosperity.
    Thank you so much for your efforts.

    By ABM90

  17. confloyd,

    IMHO HRC will take care of herself.

    And, FWIW, I doubt CK will get the appointment. Upstate NY, where I live, is not thrilled with hter. And there are an awful lot of other NYS dems vying for the slot.

    Personally, I think it’s just more smoke and mirrors, more let’s get-the-focus-off-BO and-give ’em something else to salivate over while we (BO) figure out wtf to do about blago.

  18. basil9 Says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
    from NQ:

    PEBO’s Monday presser:

    Reporter: “Mr. Present-Elect, when can people expect to see jobs created?”

    PEBO: “I have no crystal ball.”

    Wow that’s leadership! He sounded tired and cranky.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    Wait till he gets to the WH, he’ll really be tired and cranky. 👿

    This entire debacle has my head hurting.

    This country is so corrupt. CK taking Hillary’s seat, is the ultimate insult, and makes me very angry and sad.

  19. My head hurts. Who’s right????
    BOT;
    “U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald today confirmed that his office asked President-elect Barack Obama to delay release of an internal presidential transition-team investigation.”
    This post is DOA. Obama wins again. LOL
    Comment by Truthteller | 2008-12-15 19:50:17
    No, it is more relevant than ever, for obviously Fitzgerald does not want Obama to presume everyone in his office innocent. That would interrupt the probe.
    It seems there is a lot more to be learned about Obama’s engagement with Blagojevich’s staff in the future.

  20. wbboei,

    Thanks. It has been awhile since I posted because I get lost in long threads. But I do check in on an almost daily basis to see what is happening. .This is best political oppo research I’ve ever gotten to read. Admin is amazing.

  21. his sums up my feelings exactly!

    WBBOEI! Translation, please!

    Comment by jeremy | 2008-12-15 19:51:14

    i find it very interesting that obama was told to keep his internal investigation to himself until after fitzy conducts his interviews. but wait obama said there was nothing unethical about his contacts. well then why the need to keep his report silent. there shouldnt be any question needed to obamas staff. i dont get all this double talk!!

  22. wbboei Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    When the Bolsheviks overthrew the Kerensky Government and initiated their reign of terror, a British agent named Sidney Reilly organized a coup with the Latvian guard who guarded Kremlin, white Russian forces and the a planned British landing at Archangel. It all would have come together fine, and the misery that ensued that cost the lives of ten million people would have been avoided but for one small detail. A French JOURNALIST who decided to write a story about the plot, which caused it to be aborted, the conspirators were
    ===================

    Now there’s a classy comparison. I was thinking Isikoff and Lewinsky.

  23. Well said, Admin!

    And now Obamalite is holding off on delivering his report on his blago connections/nonconnections until next week. Of course it is to help the investigation. Then again, next week he will be on vacation.

    How convenient.

  24. I like the Sara Baxter of the London Times analysis of Big Pink:

    &&&&&&
    Their philosophy is similar to that of the mysterious unofficial website http://www.Hillaryis44.com – a reference to her would-be status as the 44th president – which warns darkly that one of the clearest threats to her election will come from “Democrats who repeat Republican propaganda to undermine Hillary”.

    The pink website, which looks beguilingly amateurish while being deadly professional, solicits confidential tips on her rivals and is believed to be a “back door” into her war room.

    &&&&
    Kewl.

  25. basil9 Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
    (snip)
    And what about the BO mortgage scandal? How’d he get a Fannie Mae mortgage on a 1,4 million mansion when the Fannie limit is 417G?
    **************”
    “Further research found that the Obama’s obtained a Land Trust Agreement with Northern Trust which means they did not receive a Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loan over the Federal limit.”

    RBO has a long post on the “mortgage.” I don’t think “normal” people could get the dea that “O” did.
    http: / / therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/obama-real-estate-facts-verify-verify-verify/

  26. Birdgal, regarding comments “in moderation”. The spam filters sometimes do strange things and we have to dig comments out from them.

    Lately, as we readjust the filters to continue the fight against spam, some users have been victimized (Jan H and basil9 and yourself have been favorite targets of the filters). BTW, the notices from “admin” are generated automatically by the spam filters not by an actual live person. When we spot the problem we continue to adjust and correct and if necessary manually retrieve comments from authorized commentators.

  27. rgb44hrc Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
    I like the Sara Baxter of the London Times analysis of Big Pink:

    &&&&&&
    Their philosophy is similar to that of the mysterious unofficial website http://www.Hillaryis44.com – a reference to her would-be status as the 44th president – which warns darkly that one of the clearest threats to her election will come from “Democrats who repeat Republican propaganda to undermine Hillary”.

    The pink website, which looks beguilingly amateurish while being deadly professional, solicits confidential tips on her rivals and is believed to be a “back door” into her war room.

    &&&&
    =================

    Good for BAxter, but wasn’t that published last spring?

    ANywy,

    {{{{ cosy/amateurish }}}}

    {{{{{{{{ deadly }}}}}}}}

  28. This is best political oppo research I’ve ever gotten to read. Admin is amazing.
    —————————————-
    Basement angel: yes, it is great oppo research but in my mind it is even more than that. It is investigative jouranlism at its best. It aims for the truth and it peels away the layers of the onion to find it. It takes great intelligence and insight,as well as tenacity and judment. Admin is the a paradigmatic example of this. It is the highest form of the journalistic art vital to a free democratic society.

    But it also makes me wonder about those who have settled instead for the base role of propandaist. This is their hour in the sun too. Surely they see the damage they do. Do they regret it? Or are they so anesthesized by the money that they have forgotten the ideals of their youth? In the final analysis the money they make is just chips.

    The rank is but the guinea stamp
    The man’s the gald for a that

  29. admin Says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    Birdgal, regarding comments “in moderation”. The spam filters sometimes do strange things and we have to dig comments out from them.

    Lately, as we readjust the filters to continue the fight against spam, some users have been victimized (Jan H and basil9 and yourself have been favorite targets of the filters). BTW, the notices from “admin” are generated automatically by the spam filters not by an actual live person. When we spot the problem we continue to adjust and correct and if necessary manually retrieve comments from authorized commentators.

    ======================================================================================

    Thank you, Admin. It hasn’t happened to me in so long, I had almost forgotton about it.

    Btw, I agree with the statement: “This is best political oppo research I’ve ever gotten to read. Admin is amazing.”

    There is no other website like this. I love it. Thank you for all your hard work.

  30. Trashing us? I thought those were COMPLIMENTS.

    Ah, for the days when Hillary HAD a war room. Or has it moved on, leaving us marooned in the USA?

  31. Bambi was asked when the jobs will be created–not whether he had a crytal ball. During the primary he assured us that he is the messiah. Ergo we fully expect full national employment to follow at dawn of January 21. What does a crystal ball have to do with this?

  32. The pink website, which looks beguilingly amateurish while being deadly professional, solicits confidential tips on her rivals and is believed to be a “back door” into her war room.

    Lotsa sexual inuendo in there, methinks.

    Someone finds us dead sexy. 😉

  33. rgb etc,

    I think the agency that debunked those charges against the Clintons was GAO? Government Accounting Office?

    Though I have a very tiny vague possible memory that there were some gifts that HIllary took along, thinkint they were personal to her and Bill rather than to the White House itself. And she returned them.

  34. Ah, for the days when Hillary HAD a war room. Or has it moved on, leaving us marooned in the USA?
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    Turndown: A few mornings ago I woke up wondering the same thing. She moves to a world stage and a hierachy who respects her and is glad to see her, as opposed to this vile one that exists within this country. It is a better move for her than it is for us, but it would have broken my heart to see her marginalized in the senate. The political culture in this country is sicker than it has ever been. The great hope for me is that she will be viable in 2012.

    ABM 90 has been MIA for a few days. Hope all is well with him.

  35. the following is from politico.com,

    Rumor has it that Gov. Ron B. of Illinois has demanded that the powerful political machine back off on his impeachment or he’ll just go ahead and appoint Alan Keyes to Obama’s Senate seat.

  36. Now there’s a classy comparison. I was thinking Isikoff and Lewinsky.
    —————————————–
    no difference turndown–they are all russians. And pretty soon they will be docking Red October in Havana Harbor–small world isnt it. Meanwhile:

    The sun may never fall til after sundown
    By 8 pm the moonlight must appear
    In short there’s simply not
    A more congenial spot
    For happy ever aftering
    Than here in Camelot
    With Bambi, Mee shall steal the silverware when no on is looking
    Olberman as Sir Lancer not

  37. Rumor has it that Gov. Ron B. of Illinois has demanded that the powerful political machine back off on his impeachment or he’ll just go ahead and appoint Alan Keyes to Obama’s Senate seat.
    ———————————–
    A friend says the gov is a tough chicago politican. Keyes would make a great Senator. He is an ultra conservative Republican–last time I checked. He would be their worst nightmare. Bambis too. Remember that standard line in westerns where the sheriff wanders out of his office and tells the angry lynch mob and says something like:

    So you have come to kill me huh?
    Well, there’s enough of you
    All it takes is 3 or 4 with the courage to die first

  38. wbboei Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
    Rumor has it that Gov. Ron B. of Illinois has demanded that the powerful political machine back off on his impeachment or he’ll just go ahead and appoint Alan Keyes to Obama’s Senate seat.
    ———————————–
    A friend says the gov is a tough chicago politican. Keyes would make a great Senator.
    ================

    I was just thiknkikng that! Keyes is a constitutional scholar, he’s been around a long time and done a lot of homework. I”d kind of like to see him get it. 🙂

    Quite a slap for Obama, as he was Obama’s last opponent for that seat.

    Yes, a far-right Constitution and Bible type, but I bet Keyes knows the difference.

  39. I sure wish “Hotrod” all the best this yuletide season, I think paybacks can be Moth%$fu*&^%$. I will be watching with popcorn. You have to admit, he may be corrupt, but he is corrupt with guts. I think this whole recorded thing is a setup to get Bambi dirty, Hotrod is pist at his old buddy for some reason, wonder why??? Probably a promise that wasn’t going to be kept! LOL!! The recording is just toooo perrrrfect!!

  40. hillarygirl Says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
    the following is from politico.com,

    Rumor has it that Gov. Ron B. of Illinois has demanded that the powerful political machine back off on his impeachment or he’ll just go ahead and appoint Alan Keyes to Obama’s Senate seat.

    ——————————————

    This has gone beyond ridiculous! That man is a menace!

  41. Well as I live and breathe…Heard a rumor that there was an organizational meeting late last week for… ta da… T Mac himself. And then I saw this:

    Terry McAuliffe’s debut

    DNC chairman-turned-Virginia gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe showed off his knowledge about traffic, poultry workers and statewide unemployment figures as he participated in the first forum of the campaign yesterday:

    McAuliffe came prepared — both to combat criticism and to exhibit his command of Virginia facts and figures.

    He easily rattled off statistics about how many hours Virginians spend stuck in traffic each year, how many poultry farmers work in the state and how many people are unemployed in one of its most financially distressed cities, Martinsville.

    McAuliffe, 51, repeatedly mentioned his McLean address, his business credentials and his support for Democrats across the state, including what he described as large donations to the last two governors, Mark R. Warner and Timothy M. Kaine.

  42. DNC chairman-turned-Virginia gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe

    I wish this had made clear that McAuliffe’s time as DNC chairman ended long before the 2008 debacle. McAuliffe is a staunch supporter of the Clintons.

    Under what circumstances did McA leave the DNC chairmanship?

  43. Okay, everyone, I just read something very disgusting over on The Confluence. Apparently, MO thinks she should get a salary as first lady, since she left her lucrative job. I don’t have a link, but has anyone else read or heard this? The hits just keep on coming.

  44. I suppose Michelle thinks First Lady should earn as much as “First Gentleman”, $400,000.

    Well, before jumping all over her case, I’d like to see that substantiated. But I wouldn’t put it past her.

  45. turndown

    not sure what you want to know…he is good friends with our former guv Tom Vilsack and his wife Christie, spent tons of time in IA working for Hill, and was at a meeting that a friend of mine attended a few days ago…for his own campaign—for gov of VA.

    he was dnc chair from 2001-2005, and raised a TON

  46. he was dnc chair from 2001-2005, and raised a TON
    =============

    And then Dean and Brazile took over. Did McA fight for his seat, or give it up voluntarily? I heard Dean got in by some sort of Bot coup.

  47. of $ for the party…compared to the peanuts Dean raised during his term.

    DNC chairs usually only serve one term. Besides, he wanted to raise money for Hill and he couldn’t do that as DNC chair.

    Do you see a problem abt Terry.

  48. hillarygirl Says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
    the following is from politico.com,

    Rumor has it that Gov. Ron B. of Illinois has demanded that the powerful political machine back off on his impeachment or he’ll just go ahead and appoint Alan Keyes to Obama’s Senate seat.

    ——————————————

    This has gone beyond ridiculous! That man is a menace!

    ——————————–

    Steady as she goes. . .

    Remember Big Media, Bambi, the Combine want the public to believe Governor Blag is insane to blunt the negative impact of his testimony.

    But as Chicago Tribune writer John Kass wisely observes: Blagojevich as quite sane, because all he did was act like just another corrupt Chicago politician. He squeezed people. That’s how things are done in the city that is not Camelot.

  49. Forty five percent (45%) of U.S. voters say it is likely President-elect Obama or one of his top campaign aides was involved in the unfolding Blagojevich scandal in Illinois, including 23% who say it is Very Likely.

    Just 11% say it is not at all likely, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey taken Thursday and Friday nights.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/december_2008/45_suspect_obama_team_involved_in_blagojevich_scandal

  50. Emjay Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 1:00 am
    of $ for the party…compared to the peanuts Dean raised during his term.

    DNC chairs usually only serve one term. Besides, he wanted to raise money for Hill and he couldn’t do that as DNC chair.

    Do you see a problem abt Terry.
    =================

    No, just the opposite. Any friend of the Clintons’. I didn’t like the news quote that suggested he had gone STRAIGHT from DNC chair to Gov candidate, because that would have meant he was involved in 2008’s DNC corruption. I wanted to clarify that McAuliffe had left the DNC some time ago and is not implicated in the recent stuff.

  51. Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal
    Appraiser claiming fraud says prosecutor’s office talked to him after Blago arrest

    SNIP:
    U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald
    Since arresting Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has renewed interest in convicted fundraiser Tony Rezko’s part in the purchase of Barack Obama’s Chicago mansion, according to a former real estate analyst who says he was interviewed by the federal prosecutor in the past 10 days.

    read the entire article here:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83760

  52. Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal
    Appraiser claiming fraud says prosecutor’s office talked to him after Blago arrest

    SNIP:
    U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald
    Since arresting Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has renewed interest in convicted fundraiser Tony Rezko’s part in the purchase of Barack Obama’s Chicago mansion, according to a former real estate analyst who says he was interviewed by the federal prosecutor in the past 10 days.

    read the entire article here:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83760

  53. Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal
    Appraiser claiming fraud says prosecutor’s office talked to him after Blago arrest

    SNIP:
    U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald
    Since arresting Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has renewed interest in convicted fundraiser Tony Rezko’s part in the purchase of Barack Obama’s Chicago mansion, according to a former real estate analyst who says he was interviewed by the federal prosecutor in the past 10 days.

    read the entire article here:
    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83760

  54. turndown

    Terry was Hillary’s National Campaign Chair from the setup of her exploratory committe in 2005 through November 4, 2008.

  55. I posted elsewhere:

    The voters of NY elected Hillary twice. They are entitled to a Senator who will continue Hillary’s policies and projects — not Caroline, who endorsed Obama in the primary.

    I think it is fine for Ted Kennedy’s wife to take his seat, and Biden’s aide to take Biden’s. I hope some person close to Hillary gets her seat so they can continue her work.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27893836/
    Nov. 24: Delaware Gov. Ruth Ann Minner has named Ted Kaufman, a longtime aide to Joe Biden, to take Biden’s Senate seat.
    Kaufman held a senior position in all of Biden’s federal campaigns. He served on Biden’s Senate staff from 1973 to 1994, including 19 years as chief of staff…..
    He said he is comfortable stepping down after two years in office…..
    [Biden’s son] is a prosecutor for the 261st Signal Brigade, which left for Iraq last week. The unit is due back in September 2009, in time for Biden to run for his father’s Senate seat.

  56. OMG!!!!
    CK is a ‘best-selling author” and headed the “JFK library” and therefor she’s eligible to be Senator!
    That’s what they’re saying on Morning Joe!
    Even funnier is MIKA saying that sometimes ‘you have to prove yourself.” WTF!
    Even Joe is saying Patterson is boxed in and will likely appoint her.
    Her surrogate (a Kennedy relative- Carrie Kennedy who’s also hawking her friggin book) is saying it wuld be good to have someone who’s not an extrovert in the senate . .

    Ohhhhhh – i am getting sick. “Several weeks ago we opened the Robert Kennedy bridge and later CK chaired the dinner . . .”
    Going on about how she would champion public schools –

    !#$##@!! I just F***ING moved to NYS!!!!!! PLEEEEZZZEEE NOOOOOO! There’s a decent balance right now between reps of extremist city people and rural folk – if CK gets in fergeddabouddit!
    Upstate’s gonna haveta secede from NYC. (not a bad idea IMHO)e

  57. Caroline is her mother’s daughter, but she certainly does not have Jackie’s grace. After acting as a major player in defeating Hillary, she wants Hillary’s Senate seat? Truly tasteless, Caroline. Perhaps this Ted/Caroline Kennedy greed will help foster the general population’s realization of the destruction bestowed upon the U.S. Constitution by Democrats (probably led by Ted and his tragic situation) and Big Media Inc.

  58. “I heard Dean got in by some sort of Bot coup.”

    ———————————–

    So this is what I was wondering last night, will the bots stage another coup and get Caroline in? Is it a done deal?

    I really hope a New York backlash is in the works!

  59. birdgal,

    I was flipping through channels and caught this on CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. Laura Bush was even asked if she thought a “first lady” should get a salary. She emphatically stated that she wasn’t elected and should not get one. The reason I stayed to listen is because they were fairly complementary about Hillary being one of the hardest working first ladies ever. The overall consensus was that they should not be paid.

  60. Just heard on ABC Dick the prick Cheney say that Obama has put together a good team, but he would not have chosen Hillary, but that she would be a very hard work SOS. The Ahole need STFU and get the hell out of Dodge ASAP.

  61. I find her request, if it is true, for a salary to be as repugnant as the auto executives flying in private jets to ask for money. Audacity.

  62. Caroline told the world that she wants to take Hillary’s seat yesterday. how dare Patterson not appoint her. she is Kennedy. if she wants, she should get it.

  63. according to George S on ABC, it will be a done deal and that Patterson would not have the nerve not to select her. How long Teddy until you meet your maker. Not soon enough!

  64. admin,

    Did you mean to cite Sarah Baxter’s RECENT work? Dec. 15th, 2008 instead of January 2008? I think that that citation is:

    w w w.exposeobama.com/

    BTW, thank you so much for hanging in there and dredging up sources that I can’t find on my own. I really appreciate your keeping us informed!!!!

  65. I gotta get outta here but here’s another thought:

    I’m hearing ALL the MSM shows talking like the CK senate seat is a done deal.
    Maybe they’re right.
    After all, Patterson is the first AA governor (even if it is by default) and he’s in BO’s pocket and BO owes Ted big time.

    Also, Ted is senator in a state with THEIR first AA governor;

    And Ted wants to remembered as the one who opened the door for AA’s;
    AND . . .

    What about Spitzergate? You know, the prostitution charges, the FBI wiretaps, the fact Spitz wasn’t the original target of the FBI investigation and just coincidentally got ‘caught,” –

    What if Spitz was DELIBERATELY taken out to get Patterson, the first AA gov, in office and pave the way for CK?

    Too much of a stretch?
    Whaddaya think?

  66. The local news was all a buzz with Judas and his possible involvment with the award of a contract to someone who had contributed around $100K to his campaign. It was down played, of course, and I thought it said two contracts. Not the first time this has happened here. They just conviced a Dem State money type for taking kick backs in the building of the Federal courthouses in Albuquerque. With the Judas they were slanting it toward his staff.

    Well, since his after hours activities don’t seem to count in his appointment, you have to wonder, if he is tainted with this either. After all he is the Judas, and he deserves his bribe.

  67. Stop the merry-go-round, I want off! Please, can we have some kind of collective action against Paterson ANNOINTING Caroline? Her appointment would be tasteless and she has no more experience as myself, and she is only a quarter as smart.

    makethemallaccountable says, “…After acting as a major player in defeating Hillary, she wants Hillary’s Senate seat? Truly tasteless…”

    Exactly. And, furthermore, I do not want a single penny of my family’s tax dollar going to Michelle who hates my country and has only been proud of it since her husband was SELECTED for the presidency and she wants to get paid for the PRIVILEGE of serving herself through my country?????????

  68. ShortTermer

    So with people going without heat in Chicago, and other places in America, she wants a six figure salary.

    Seems we have heard this before. Leopards never change their spots. He never did anything and he wrote an autobiography, her salary triple for nothing, yet how much did they give to charity. As I remember, Sarah Palin gave more to charity than any of them.

    So in the most challenging times in this country in a long time, we gave this Presidency to someone with no experience, will give NY Senator seat to someone with no experience, and give the first lady a six figure salary.

    What a mess.

  69. Wouldn’t it take an act of congress to give a first lady a salary? If this story is true, MO is truly evil, narcissitic, and entitled. But, we aready knew that. Hell, why not pay the VP’s wife a salary.

  70. CK may be the next inexperienced and unqualified candidate that the DNC puts in, in 2016. What a travesty. Our democracy is lost.

  71. Should First Ladies Get a Salary? Let Me Help You with That Question: No.

    During Meet the Press, there was a commercial for the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams, promoting a report that will ask the question: “Should First Ladies Be Paid?”

    Excuse me?

    Indeed, the First Lady collects no salary. But it’s not as if the position sentences one to a life of deprivation:

    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC boasts 132 rooms, 35 bathrooms, 412 doors, 147 windows, 28 fireplaces, eight staircases and three lifts. There is the billiard room, tennis courts, a swimming pool and cinema. And there is a staff of 34 on hand.

    Should he feel hungry, President Obama can call on one of the five full-time White House chefs. And while dining, he can sample from the extensive White House wine cellar and admire the artwork chosen from the collections of the National Gallery, which are at his disposal . . .

    The president gets to land his helicopter, Marine One, on the White House’s south lawn. But he also has Air Force One, the flying office, hotel suite, situation room and hideaway. And he has two Boeing 747s, just in case. And the presidential limousine — a stretched Lincoln Continental, reconfigured for each new president.

    Weekend away?

    Camp David, the 125-acre rural hideaway, an hour’s drive from HQ is at the president’s disposal for weekend recreation or international summits.

    But wait, there’s more:

    In addition to his salary, the President gets numerous expense accounts including:

    * General account ($50000)
    * Official expenses of the White House office
    * Entertainment expenses
    * Separate entertainment expenses for official presidential functions
    * Traveling expenses for the president and anyone traveling with him (above and beyond the free limo, helicopter, and airplane rides)

    In addition there is an account designated for “unanticipated needs” which is not to exceed $1 million per year. These unanticipated needs include anything for the furtherance of the national interest, security, or defense, including personnel needs and needs for services. Basically if the President is over-quota for anything listed above, he can dip into this money.

    If President-elect Obama wants to divert a portion of his $400,000 salary to create a First Lady salary, that would be their business. But I’m wondering what, if any, justifications we will see in NBC’s report.

    campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2Y5YzM2N2Q4MzBlYmQ5ZGI4Nzk5NDEzMWVkMDE1ODc=

  72. I couldn’t find anything that states that michelle or BHO asked about a salary…….but we all know that if the MSM is asking, they are asking FOR THE OBAMA’S.

    DISGUSTING!!!

  73. djia,

    Probably just testing the waters to see if their is any growing sympathy for the “huge” burdens poor poor poor M.O. will be carrying as “No lady.”

    Let the skies open up and let there be a huge backlash!

  74. Emjay and wbboei:Thank you for your concerns about not having been active for a while. Three days of being unable to enter my political paradise and the withdrawal symptoms were much.I have been very busy with xmas shopping,cleaning and having my car serviced and yes I still do a lot of driving.I bought my present car ,a Buick,eight yrs. ago ,when I was 82 and I have less than 250 miles to go and reach the 100,000 mile mark.So you see I am leading a full life while I help the fight against Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his disgraceful takeover of the Whitehouse.I intend to be around for a lot longer and see our Hillary as the real CIC.She won fair and square but the barbarians
    did their dirty work while the country slept through the tragedy
    of BHO’s “Legacy of Restitution and the coming Retributions.

    BY ABM90 Having friends is an everlasting joy for me.

  75. ABM90

    I too have been going through withdrawels being locked out from time to time… hate it!!

    & I sure hope I’m as active as you in 45 years 😀

  76. So it looks like the Kennedy PR campaign is working like a charm: You get the MSM to tout her “qualifications” and say it’s a done deal that she has the seat. Thats put an unbelievable amount of pressure on Paterson. BTW, basil9, I don’t think Paterson owes the Kennedys anything, as far as I can tell. I wouldn’t want to be him right now, that’s for sure.

    Here’s what he said yesterday about Caroline expressing interest. What do you all think?

    “She told me was interested in the position,” he said. “She realized that it was not a campaign. She’d like at some point to sit down and let me know what her qualifications are.”

    Doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement to me, but we’ll see.

  77. Michelle wanting a first lady salary shows she not only is a narcissistic fool but has a political tin ear. With all the people in this country are going through right now, she has the nerve to ask to be paid????

  78. ABM90

    I too have been going through with drawels being locked out from time to time… hate that!!

    & I sure hope I’m as active as you in 45 years 😀

  79. BTW, the comparisons of CK to Hillary are ridiculous. Hillary wasn’t seeking appointment to the senate, she ran for the seat and had to earn the support of New Yorkers in order to win. It wasn’t bestowed on her. Geez.

  80. ABM90,

    LOL…I’m trying this again. My first post to you got lost in cyberspace.

    I just wanted to say that I’m so glad you are doing well and hope that you have a wonderful and safe holiday season!

  81. I wonder who Hillary will endorse for her replacement. Or will she stay mute and not take sides? It might be less of a minefield for her that way.

  82. ABM 90: glad you are back on line. Great post.

    Regarding Cheney: what he is saying in effect is he would not have selected Hillary because he is a firm believer in gunboat diplomacy and would not select someone like her who believes that is that is our only strategy then sooner or later three things are bound to happen: i) we run out f boats, ii) we run out of sailors, iii) we have no friendly port of call to resupply. Furthermore, Cheney managed to marginalize Condelessa Rice in certain ways, and he could never do that to Hillary Clinton. So it is no mystery really why “he would not have selected her”.

  83. Fundraiser Rezko’s sentencing delayed

    57 minutes ago

    CHICAGO (AP) — Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko’s sentencing has been postponed indefinitely, possibly adding to the legal problems of Gov. Rod Blagojevich (bluh-GOY’-uh-vich), who already is facing federal charges.

    The order came at a one-minute hearing Tuesday amid speculation that Rezko has resumed talking to prosecutors about his relationship with Blagojevichand other figures in the federal investigation of state government.

    But Rezko’s chief defense counsel, Joseph Duffy, declined to comment.

    “Merry Christmas, everyone,” Duffy said, leaving court.

    Blagojevich was arrested last week on federal corruption charges, accused of putting President-elect Barack Obama’s Senate seat up for sale.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g_4ze_Tmd41p-8F7X5uFd8Fsi8hQD953SLT00

    another good one with a bit more info
    suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1333219,CST-NWS-rezkochange.article

  84. JanH, She won’t take sides but I’m sure she’s not keen on CK getting it.

    BTW, I found it interesting that Paterson said CK realizes this isn’t a campaign. Sounds like he’s not happy with the Kennedys trying to pressure him publicly. I also wonder how CK will enumerate her qualifications when she meets with him. I’m a Kennedy? I can raise a lot of money? That about covers it.

  85. wbboei, What do you think about the latest CK developments? I’m wondering if Paterson will end up with no choice but to pick her. I think he’s trying to resist but it may be futile in the end.

  86. So it looks like the Kennedy PR campaign is working like a charm: You get the MSM to tout her “qualifications” and say it’s a done deal that she has the seat. Thats put an unbelievable amount of pressure on Paterson.
    —————————————-
    Well, this is alot like litigation. If you have never been there dont go. But if you find yourself there through no fault of your own, then you will see there is an ebb and a flow to it. On the Caroline Kennedy attempt to buy a congressional seat with coin of a different realm the kennedy camp is pushing this ambitious trust fund baby at the moment, but there are most likely counter forces pushing to other way. As much as we resent this I bet they resent it far more. Yes, the pressures on Patterson are there, and the pr firm kennedy has hired will generate false public opinion polls. But in the final analysis, this is an inside fight and Cuomo is a native son. I regard Patterson as nothing more than a trembling tower of tapioca, but he will find it rough sledding in the future if he yields to the Kennedy forces. Ted Kennedy and Lucifer will be imbibing Ballentines Irish whisky in sweltering climes shortly and the heat will be off Patterson for all eternity. Meanwhile Stephanaopolis is an embarrassment to ABC. He is a gossip monger, with the critical thinking skills of Bart Simpson–or worse, Campbell Brown–stupid but forever in earnest/

  87. Paula: I wish he would say this is not the time in the history of our state to fill one of the most critical jobs in our state with someone who has no proven track record of success in the realm of politics, and no real interest in it prior to now. I respect the self interest of Senator Kennedy but my job as governor is to do what is best for the people of New York. Therefore, I intend to select a native son who has the experiece and that is my friend and colleague Andrew Cuomo. If I may offer an unsoclicited suggestion to Senator Kennedy it would be that he foist his trust fund baby niece on his own state of Massachusetts.

  88. BMERRY has brought up a very good question re:blagobama-gate today at RBO Bmerry writes:

    If Obama’s seat is worth millions to Blago today, what was it worth in 2003-2004 when it was emptying with the retirement of Republican Peter Fitzgerald?

    And how did Blago parley that empty seat back then into a victory for his special fixer guy Tony Rezko’s protege and student of the Chicago Way, Barack Obama?

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

  89. When the Blagojevich scandal first came out, M.O.’s name was bandied about as being one of the players involved in some of his dealings over the years. I haven’t heard anything since. Has this been hushed up, denied, or accurately refuted?

  90. wbboei, Have the Kennedys hired a PR firm for this? How tacky.

    BTW, I just reread Paterson’s comments from yesterday, and he said he hasn’t talked to CK since she first told him she was interested, at least a week ago. Also, he said Friday that he was close to making a choice – before this most-recent CK media campaign. He’s not going to announce it, though, till Hillary is confirmed. Could this whole thing be an effort to change his mind? I can’t help but think Paterson resents the public pressure the Kennedys are employing. Notice none of the stuff about CK being a shoo-in is coming from Paterson or his inner circle. It’s totally media-driven.

  91. Jan

    I too haven’t heard anything, of course they will do their best to cover up anything with MO or BO involved…..but Fitz is taking a closer look now at house-gate again so …..maybe?? dare we hope???

  92. When Patterson says this is not an election, I hope what he means is that the people will not have an opportunity to decide the issue, therefor he must make a decision which is in their best interests and at a critical moment in history he must elevate proven competence over celebrity status. Just because others are offering him the sizzle not the steak does not mean he has to buy it. If he sells out the people of his state he is in political trouble regardless of what the Illionis Combine offers him. They aim to take over Washington and New York and he will be seen as an accomplice if he is not careful.

  93. Also, with the MSM saying Paterson won’t have the nerve to say no to the Kennedys, they’re portraying him as a spineless wimp. He can’t like that, either.

  94. JanH

    That could be Blagos ace in the hole. Where there is smoke, they say there is fire. Will be interesting to see if this surfaces again.

  95. I live in New York and I have have already called and emailed the governor and Schumer’s office. Schumer has said that they are confering over this.

    Gov patterson 528 474 8390
    Senator Schumer 212 486 4430

    Massive opposition can STOP this.

  96. Jan-I think that is exactly what it is. Let us see if BO injects himself (further?) into this process. Since he never discussed his own replacement in Illionis, or so he claims, it would be a bit of an anomoly if he tried to do it here–now wouldnt it?

  97. wbboei, I took notice, too, when Paterson said this wasn’t a campaign. I’d like to think he will reward a qualified candidate who paid his or her dues.

  98. Paula Says:

    December 16th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
    henry, Editorials like that show the Kennedy PR firm is working overtime
    ————————————————————————————————–

    Sickening. All fluff, no substance.

  99. Henry–the good news is nobody listens to those crackers. However, do they happen to say why experience does not matter, why a native son should be overlooked or who bought them off to provide that improvident endorsement?

  100. I wonder when the people who have worked their Axx off in the political machine are going to get tired of this go to the front of the line with little or no experience. O did the same thing.

  101. In the comments section of the post editorial someone wrote that it was payback for ck having written a letter of reference for Murdoch’s daughter. Don’t know if there’s any truth to that as I am sure the man could buy his way into anything he wanted.

  102. NMF & wbboei,

    And the media is hushing any possible involvement of M.O. as well. This could get to be very interesting…lol…

  103. birdgal,

    It’s twilight zone time at the White House. If she hires a PR firm for anything, it should be to spruce up her very very tainted character and then go from there.

  104. I was just at the post office in line and in front of me was a 94 year-old Brooklyn NY native. I asked him about the annointment of Caroline Kennedy to replace Hillary and he did not seem to mind. We talked further and he admitted that our country is or is about to be a communist country. He asked me what I thought about the shoe throwing at Dubya, and I said I was all for it because at the VERY least his administration paved the way for a Huckster to happen. I should have said, ‘So, throwing your soul away is not just an American thing?’

    My new names for you know who – the Huckster and the ‘NO Lady.’

  105. JanH Says:

    December 16th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
    birdgal,

    It’s twilight zone time at the White House. If she hires a PR firm for anything, it should be to spruce up her very very tainted character and then go from there.

    ————————————————————————————————–

    Didn’t they try to do a makeover during the primary? Didn’t take.

  106. Clinton chides supporters on Kennedy
    December 16, 2008

    Hillary Clinton has told her supporters not to impede Caroline Kennedy’s path to the U.S. Senate on her behalf, a person familiar with replacement discussions said.

    The move clears a major obstacle between Kennedy and the seat.

    Prominent Clinton supporters, including Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), union leader Stuart Applebaum and fundraiser Robert Zimmerman, recently expressed skepticism about the choice, suggesting that Clinton’s supporters would see naming Kennedy — a crucial Obama backer — as a slight.

    All three “were told that their comments weren’t appreciated, and that if they have a candidate they prefer that is motivating their comments and actions, they need to make that crystal clear so that nobody thinks we’re behind it,” said a person close to the replacement talks.

    Clinton is focused on her transition to the State Department, people close to her say, and being seen as meddling in the Senate choice would likely make her more enemies than friends.

    “Sen. Clinton completely respects the privacy of his process so will not be commenting on it or any individual candidate, nor does any third party speak on her behalf,” said her spokesman, Philippe Reines.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Clinton_chides_supporters_on_Kennedy.html

  107. Dignity of the Office

    There are good discussions of the Favreau photo showing Obama’s chief speechwriter and another Obama staffer performing lewd acts on a cutout photo of Hillary Clinton, with Favreau grabbing Sen. Clinton’s breast while the other staffer grabs her hair and forces her to chug beer. See posts one, two and three on Alegre’s Corner, and posts at one and two at Corrente, Feminist Law Professors, Historiann, Shakesville and TalkLeft. My opinion of Favreau himself is that he finds denegration through sexual molestation a neat-o thing, and I pity those who have to deal with him on a daily basis. I am a little unclear on when the photo was taken (Before June? Near the convention? Before the election? Within the last few weeks?) and I am also uncertain about his employment status (Is he currently chief speech writer? Applying for a job at State?), but these are subsidiary concerns, things that slightly increase or decrease the offensiveness of the image but do not change the political circumstances of the revelation of the image.

    The question of Favreau himself (well discussed at the above linked blogs) may be getting most of the attention but that is not where the political issues lie. The political question remains: what will Obama do with this challenge to his authority? Does he have the political acumen and self-assurance to make a well-timed example of someone who has been important to the campaign?

    The stance Obama takes towards Favreau will have repercussions. To say “Sorry, this behavior does not measure up to this administration’s standards, can’t have this around,” would clearly communicate some serious expectations for executive staff performance and workplace environment. To fail to do so will damage the administration.

    The reluctance to act upon the irreducible fact of this photo is paradigmatic of Obama’s political behavior. He is loath to spend political capital to do the right thing if that thing involves an implicit (let alone explicit) criticism of himself. This is one of the reasons the Rev. Wright situation dragged on as long as it did. The desire to not be wrong overshadows the desire to do what is right, particularly if there is political advantage (real or imagined) to be wrung from the wrong. I compare this political tendency – wait out bad news and see if it will resolve itself – to the behavior of banks that have reaped a windfall from the Hanky Panky. They have capital but will not put it at any risk even when the long term danger for failing to do so dwarfs any immediate penalty. The Village snickers at Hillary’s degradation, shills like Campbell Brown want HRC to act out their own private revenge fantasies instead of behave like a public figure of stature, and the public is distracted by the collapsing economy. It must be tempting to see if this situation can be toughed out.

    What should be an opportunity to set a number of political expectations is being allowed to slide down the memory hole to defend the imagined hoard of capital.

    But this isn’t a campaign and we are talking serious, high-stakes politics. Hillary Rodham Clinton is not an electoral adversary, nor is she just another senator. By virtue of her appointment as Secretary of State, she is the representative of the United States to the world. She embodies American policy and reliability to other sovereign nations. To allow this image of her being treated with disrespect by a close associate of the president, someone who appears to be on track as a member of the administration, says two things to the nations and diplomats she will engage:

    Go ahead, piss on her. We do.
    We don’t respect you enough to send someone we respect to treat with you.
    Had this photo come out during the campaign, it could have been kept an individual matter, dimissed (however disingenuously) as the unfortunate side effect of a highly competitive contest. But now Hillary has been named Secretary of State and the revelation of the contempt under these circumstances carries a different meaning. This image is no longer about her. This is not a situation of her making. It is an act of denegration towards her. She cannot respond to it politically because, while it is a personal insult, it is not her political predicament.

    It is about defending the dignity and authority of a cabinet officer, which is identical with defending the dignity and authority of the administration as such. It is about Obama’s ability to maintain order and enforce discipline. In this case, the president is responsible for defending the nation, as represented by a member of his cabinet, from violation and degredation. That the acts were perfomed on a cardboard cutout should increase awareness of the symbolic import of an assault upon a representation of the country. People have mentioned (and even Photoshopped in) faces of other women, which misses the point. The correct reshuffling of that image would be to have foreign nationals in the place of the staffers. What is done to the Secretary of State is done to the nation.

    As I mentioned above, it is not clear when the picture was taken but that is irrelevant. The repercussions of this demonstration of disrespect are happening now.

    The dignity, efficacy and authority of the office is at stake.

    Anglachel

    Posted by Anglachel at 6:55 PM 8
    ————————————
    The photo was taken after the primary. The young man in question posted it himself. Hillary was as one writer noted in a double bind. It is understandable that she handled it the way she did. It was incumbent upon Obamas to address the issue and his failure to address the issue is symptomatic of his own attitude towar women and a reflection on is lack of leadership.

  108. Hmmmmmmmmmm there’s that name again… Basil weren’t you the one that first brought this name [Michael Signator] to us here?? the thing is…….why this story now?? why is that name coming up at this time???

    “Obama sightings not that novel anymore”

    Snip:
    Another student said that the CTA bus stop had been moved around the corner to accommodate Obama.

    Residents of the building, though, have never received any communication from management about Obama’s presence or officially told why there is a massive security presence outside their home most every day.

    “It’s kind of odd,” said Karches.

    Both Obama’s campaign and building officials were largely mum when asked for details about his visits.

    An Obama transition spokesman did say that the president-elect liked the gym because it’s just a few minutes by car from his Hyde Park home.

    (Regents Park is also home to Michael Signator, a friend and aide of Obama, who rents an apartment on the 16th floor.)

    Page 2

    Jeff Martin, who helps oversee Regents Park’s security operation and closed the side gate where Obama’s fleet exited, said he knew why Obama picked the building as his home gym.

    “I do, but I can’t tell you,” he said.

    Are others in the building allowed in while Obama is working off the calories?

    “I can’t tell you,” he repeated, after a pause.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16286.html

  109. djia Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    December 16th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Hmmmmmmmmmm there’s that name again… Basil weren’t you the one that first brought this name [Michael Signator] to us here?? the thing is…….why this story now?? why is that name coming up at this time???

    “Obama sightings not that novel anymore”

    Snip:
    Another student said that the CTA bus stop had been moved around the corner to accommodate Obama.

    Residents of the building, though, have never received any communication from management about Obama’s presence or officially told why there is a massive security presence outside their home most every day.

    “It’s kind of odd,” said Karches.

    Both Obama’s campaign and building officials were largely mum when asked for details about his visits.

    An Obama transition spokesman did say that the president-elect liked the gym because it’s just a few minutes by car from his Hyde Park home.

    (Regents Park is also home to Michael Signator, a friend and aide of Obama, who rents an apartment on the 16th floor.)

    Page 2

    Jeff Martin, who helps oversee Regents Park’s security operation and closed the side gate where Obama’s fleet exited, said he knew why Obama picked the building as his home gym.

    “I do, but I can’t tell you,” he said.

    Are others in the building allowed in while Obama is working off the calories?

    “I can’t tell you,” he repeated, after a pause.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16286.html

  110. There should be new award given out to media sources like cnn and msnbc who refuse to do any sort of critical thinking and settle for the debased role of propaganist and enemy of the truth.

    It could be called the Lenny Riefenstahl award unless someone else has a better name for it. That way they would not have to give out quite so many Pultizers to the undeserving.

  111. Maybe we can make a list of the gifts we want choice media and politicians to receive this Christmas. I’m thinking coal, eye of newt, chocolate covered ants, etc…etc…

  112. jan:

    If i could send everyone of them a gift this year i would send them this:

    each would receive a ticket to see the wizard; so that they would each receive

    a brain so they could think for them selves
    a heart to feel something other than a tingle up their leg
    courage to tell the truth to the people

    😀

  113. Hillary Clinton has told her supporters not to impede Caroline Kennedy’s path to the U.S. Senate on her behalf, a person familiar with replacement discussions said.

    What a classy thing to do. CK doesn’t deserve this, after what she did to Hillary.

  114. djia,

    LMAO!

    ————–
    I’m finding my posts end up in moderation if I add a happy face or the likes thereof. Also when I’m adding certain links…sigh…

  115. wbboei said:

    The dignity, efficacy and authority of the office is at stake.

    Anglachel

    Posted by Anglachel at 6:55 PM 8
    ————————————
    The photo was taken after the primary. The young man in question posted it himself. Hillary was as one writer noted in a double bind. It is understandable that she handled it the way she did. It was incumbent upon Obamas to address the issue and his failure to address the issue is symptomatic of his own attitude towar women and a reflection on is lack of leadership.
    =================

    I certainly agree! But what firm evidence do we have for “The photo was taken after the primary. The young man in question posted it himself.” At one time it was on a site ABOUT Favreau but not controlled by Favreau.

    He’s obviouly POSING for the photo, and would know that it’s likely such a photo would get published somewhere, so would fall under the legal doctrine you explained a while ago about running a car through an intersection, which any fool knows is likely to result iln harm….

    Imo their best shot would have been to claim the photo was faked.

  116. Carol Saxe buda Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
    I live in New York and I have have already called and emailed the governor and Schumer’s office. Schumer has said that they are confering over this.

    Gov patterson 528 474 8390
    Senator Schumer 212 486 4430
    ========================

    I got a “could not be completed” on the 528 474 8390.

  117. what firm evidence do we have for “The photo was taken after the primary. The young man in question posted it himself.” At one time it was on a site ABOUT Favreau but not controlled by Favreau.
    —————————————-
    Hi Turndown: this was posted at Anglachel:

    ETA2: Historiann writes:

    This squib at CNN (posted yesterday) suggests that the photo was on Favreau’s Facebook account, because after using the passive voice to say that the photo “appeared on Facebook Friday,” it then states that “the picture was reportedly up for a scant two hours or so before Favreau removed it, along with every other picture of himself beyond his profile photo.” So if he removed it, presumably he was the person who posted it, unless there are other people he has permitted to post things to his account. This article also says that the photo was taken “at a recent party,” which is rather odd. Did they think that they were campaigning to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election? She campaigned her heart out for Obama, so that level of hostility and need to express sexual dominance strikes me as extremely strange. Does anyone else think that this guy should keep his job now?

  118. wbboei Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
    Paula: I wish he would say this is not the time in the history of our state to fill one of the most critical jobs in our state with someone who has no proven track record of success in the realm of politics, and no real interest in it prior to now.
    =====================

    I swear I DID see a long quote from Paterson saying he was going to appoint on ‘merit’ and wanted a Senator that would keep the job and could win re-election long term.

  119. Hillary Clinton has told her supporters not to impede Caroline Kennedy’s path to the U.S. Senate on her behalf, a person familiar with replacement discussions said.

    What a classy thing to do. CK doesn’t deserve this, after what she did to Hillary
    ——————————————
    also it is smart. no reason she should take the heat if patterson has the guts to say know to the divine right of kings/

  120. I hope Paterson’s office is being inundated with phone calls, letters, and emails against this empty suit aka Ms. Kennedy.

  121. wbboei Says: Regarding Cheney: what he is saying in effect is he would not have selected Hillary because he is a firm believer in gunboat diplomacy and would not select someone like her who believes that is that is our only strategy then sooner or later three things are bound to happen: i) we run out f boats, ii) we run out of sailors, iii) we have no friendly port of call to resupply.
    ====================

    Hear hear.

  122. JanH Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 8:09 am
    “I heard Dean got in by some sort of Bot coup.”

    ———————————–

    So this is what I was wondering last night, will the bots stage another coup and get Caroline in? Is it a done deal?

    ==================

    Totally different situation!

  123. wbboei Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    what firm evidence do we have for “The photo was taken after the primary. The young man in question posted it himself.” At one time it was on a site ABOUT Favreau but not controlled by Favreau.
    —————————————-
    Hi Turndown: this was posted at Anglachel:

    ETA2: Historiann writes:

    This squib at CNN (posted yesterday) suggests that the photo was on Favreau’s Facebook account, because after using the passive voice to say that the photo “appeared on Facebook Friday,” it then states that “the picture was reportedly up for a scant two hours or so before Favreau removed it, along with every other picture of himself beyond his profile photo.” So if he removed it, presumably he was the person who posted it, unless there are other people he has permitted to post things to his account. This article also says that the photo was taken “at a recent party,” which is rather odd. Did they think that they were campaigning to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election? She campaigned her heart out for Obama, so that level of hostility and need to express sexual dominance strikes me as extremely strange. Does anyone else think that this guy should keep his job now?
    ===============

    He should not keep his job. Posing for the picture was bad enough. If he thought it wouldn’t be published eventually then he is a fool and does not deserve the job. Even doing the act was enough to show him a fool even if he did not know it was being photographed.

    Still I don’t see a squib full of passive voice and ‘reportedly’ as firm evidence. The only verifiable claim there is that all Favreau photos were removed from ‘his’ site. That is something that might be verified by records from Facebook or some reliable third parties who actually checked his site at the time.

    I also heard, which seems likely, that there were site/s dedicated to Fav but not controlled by him.

    Sorry to be picky.

    Yours sincerely,
    Della Street

  124. henry Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    Anyone aware of any actions being taken to thwart the ck appointment? I will gladly do my part.
    =================

    In addition to what’s been mentioned here, see DailyPuma.com for feminist/PUMA blogs workign on it. thenewagenda.com may be working on it, I’m sure pumapac.org and riverdaughter’s confluence are.

  125. turndown,

    By “bots” I meant the masses of idiots that slaved away for Obama, threatened and bullyed their way through caucauses, etc… I wonder if they would once again rise up and go into battle for the newest fad…

  126. PS from Della:

    I do agree that the fact that Wash Post iirc did publish this squib means that they had background knowledge that convinced them. Otherwise they would never have broken (weren’t they the first?) a story negative to BO. I get vibes that they had some solid evidence they did not share with us.

    So imo we can take it as probably fact (whatever WP DID actually say) but if we are going to post around about it we may expect to be challenged on those points if we are too specific about them.

  127. JanH Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
    turndown,
    By “bots” I meant the masses of idiots that slaved away for Obama, threatened and bullyed their way through caucauses, etc… I wonder if they would once again rise up and go into battle for the newest fad…
    ===============

    Oh, well, I expect they will. Just the sort of thing they’d like to do. Anyone who doesn’t support CK is a racist!

    Well, they are probably going to say ‘sexist’ if the rival is a man. And sadly some feminists, even some Pumas, will probably fall for that….

    CK rejected Hillary for a man … but for us to reject CK for a man would be terrible, of course….

  128. Thank you all my friends for your kind remarks and concerns .Iam so glad to be part of this amazing group of patriots
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  129. Nothing would make me happier during this holiday season than if Patterson were to appoint ck to fill the vacancy and then Senator Clinton turned around and said I changed my mind I think I’ll stay in the Senate. What joy it would bring to me.

  130. # henry Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Stupid question
    what does iirc mean?
    ************
    If I remember/recall correctly…..ie..IIRC, Obama is a corrupt sociopathic fraud.

  131. SHV
    Thanks for the smile ya planted on my face.
    I am perhaps more enraged by the consideration of ck for a Senate position than I was by Senator Clinton’s support of waffles.
    Started looking into the Kennedy mythology, is it true that JFK had a sister who may have been less than “savory” who was given a lobotomy and institutionalized for life?

  132. Axelrod partner working on Kennedy

    The Times mentions that John Del Cecato is among Caroline Kennedy’s advisors.

    He’s also a partner in David Axelrod’s firm who worked on Obama’s ’04 Senate race and worked closely on making many of Obama’s ads this year.

    Which isn’t entirely irrelevant.

  133. Reid pushes Caroline

    Jon Ralston reports that Harry Reid is lobbying for Caroline Kennedy to join the Senate.

    Ralston, of the Las Vegas Sun, interviewed Reid for a program airing tonight:

    HR: “She’s 52 years old. I’ve spoken to her. She was part of a vetting process for vice presidential choices for Obama. She’s lived in government and politics her whole life. I think it would be a tremendous thing. … We have a lot of stars from New York. Bobby Kennedy. Hillary Clinton. I think Caroline Kennedy would be perfect. “

    JR: “So, are you going to call the governor of New York and say, ’She’s fine in my book?’”

    HR: “I already have.”

  134. henry Says:

    December 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
    SHV
    Thanks for the smile ya planted on my face.
    I am perhaps more enraged by the consideration of ck for a Senate position than I was by Senator Clinton’s support of waffles.
    Started looking into the Kennedy mythology, is it true that JFK had a sister who may have been less than “savory” who was given a lobotomy and institutionalized for life?

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    Yes, Rosemary Kennedy was given a lobotomy, because her behavior was becoming more difficult to control. Joe Kennedy went behind Rose’s back, and had the experimental procedure done to Rosemary, which left her very incapiticated and institutionalized for the remainder of her life. The story is that she was mentally challenged, and as she grew older, her behavior became more unacceptable. The question remains, was she truly mentally challenged, since as a teenager she able to do long division and multiplication.

    Some of this information has been discussed during programs on the Kennedy’s that I have seen on the History Channe. I also, saw a PBS special on lobotomies and the physician who started them. What a disturbing show. They discussed Rosemary Kennedy during the presentation.

  135. And where has joe biden since being selected as vp?
    If ck is to be judged solely on this single foray into the real world what does that say about her judgement?
    Also may I request that none of the individuals in this most unholy travesty ever be given titles when referenced or even capital letters. I was taught that one used capitals for a proper noun and there is nothing proper about these miscreants.

  136. This CK issues stinks, and exemplifies patronage, nepotism, and favoritism in their worst forms What a travesty. Our democracy is truly dead. Money truly talks.

  137. henry,

    Yes, there was a sister of Ted, JFK, etc who was lobotomized and kept in seclusion. Her name was Rose-something.

  138. I agree with MO she should get a wage for being First Lady, and I think it should be minimum wage! LOL!! That’s about all she’s worth!

  139. birdgal
    Don’t know if it is true, but I was told she shared her brothers sexual predelictions and because she was a woman she was silenced. A man allowed his own daughter to become a vegetable to further his own ambitions or that of his children. Yeah that’d a dynasty that should be sustained. Call me crazy but I believe uncle teddy’s crisis was timed too perfectly.

  140. confloyd
    mo no money of her own having to ask bambi for a few bucks to go to the all you can eat buffet with ORCA winfrey gives me a chuckle.
    Anyone else think ck is but assed ugly, like she got all the wrong genes from both parents.?

  141. henry,

    Not wanting to get into an argument with you, but the comment about CK’s looks was not, in my humble opinion, necessary.

  142. JanH
    iI understand the sentiment but I do not offer an apology. She could not be uglier if she tried, of course my perspective of that slithering snake is a direct response to her behaivor. I loathe, abhor and detest that presumptious child.

  143. henry, I could not agree with you more. I hate that dog-faced traitor. How DARE she seek the senate seat of a woman to whom she gave the finger during the primaries? I LOATHE her. And I fucking hate her pickled-brained uncle Teddy, trying to hang to whatever remaining “power” or influence he thinks he has in national politics (how did that endorsement of BO turn out for you in the MA primary, Teddy??).

    Let’s unpack Teddy’s machinations over the past year: 1) He endorsed an inexperienced, unaccomplished thug over the incomparably capable Hillary Clinton; 2) He had the AUDACITY to give Hillary the cold should when she returned to the Senate after she conceded the primary race; 3) He then publicly stated that he would NOT appoint Hillary to the Senate’s Health Care platform Obama had given to him as payment for his endorsement, stating he didn’t believe Hillary to have the “juice” to tackle the issue effectively; 4) AND THEN he attempts to force the governor of NY to give Hillary’s senate seat to a member of his own family who, along with himself, said F*** YOU to Hillary when she needed her the most.

    (BTW, saying Hillary doesn’t have the “juice” to effectively tackle ANY issue, let alone the issue about which she is most passionate (health care), is like saying Oprah doesn’t have any body fat to spare).

    Fuck you Teddy. Fuck you Caroline.

    Any questions?

  144. One would think that with all their money, someone in the Kennedy clan would get Caroline some Crest Whitening Strips. Coffee stain much?

  145. I may not think she is ethical, moral, or anything characteristic of someone who should become a senator, but I draw the line at making personal remarks about her looks or anyone else’s looks.

  146. I swear I DID see a long quote from Paterson saying he was going to appoint on ‘merit’ and wanted a Senator that would keep the job and could win re-election long term.
    —————————————
    Turndown: I swear I have the same recollection. Lets see if Patterson recollects what he said after Kennedy thugs try to strongarm him into selling out his constituents and bending to the divine right of kings.

  147. wbboei Says:

    December 16th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
    I swear I DID see a long quote from Paterson saying he was going to appoint on ‘merit’ and wanted a Senator that would keep the job and could win re-election long term.

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    That statement was made BEFORE all the PR blitz.

  148. I only hope Teddy lives long enough to witness Gov. Patterson appoint someone other than that woman-hater Caroline to the senate seat.

    Personally, I’m partial to Carolyn Maloney, experienced congresswoman, feminist, ardent and vocal Hillary supporter. Or Nydia Velazquez, the first Puerto Rican woman elected to the Congress, and an even stauncher HRC supporter. Or, if those two don’t work out, and the Governor follows through on his desire to appoint someone from upstate NY, why not Kirsten Gillibrand? Rising star in the Dem party, and VERY close to Hillary.

    Notice a pattern here? Hardworking women who actually support and embrace the promotion of qualified women. And all them are very close to our girl HRC.

    Fuck you Caroline.

  149. December 15th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
    confloyd Says:

    “[SNIP] Hotrod is pist at his old buddy for some reason, wonder why??? Probably a promise that wasn’t going to be kept! LOL!! [SNIP]
    * * * * * * * *
    My understanding is that Rod was supposed to be THE ONE catapulted into the WH – that’s why all the strong-arming for BIG campaign money from the git-go. They all talked about that during the first Gov. race. But, must have Obama cultivated Kerry and the DNC better, then one-upped Rod at the 2004 convention, then placated him with his phoney promises not to run for Prez, while making plans to do exactly that – probably after Rod helped him get elected Senator, no less. (I can’t remember what position Rod took during the contentious Senate primary.)

    What also is not understood nationally is that Rod actually is a member of “the other machine”– Dick Mell’s northwest side branch of the Dimocratic Machine, into which Rod married. Daley is often at odds with Mell. As a result, Rod has always been considered something of an outsider to the “regulars.” Rod has always styled himself as an “independent” (reform, etc.) while probably longing to be one of the “regulars.” He’s a Roddy-come-lately compared to those who have been doing this for decades.

    Where does that leave Rod vis a vis the real, institutionalized corruption? Perhaps he has plenty on them.
    * * * * * *
    PS– does Michelle think that First Lady is some kind of patronage job? Disgusting. If she were campaigning to have the First Lady recognized as a professional job and paid accordingly for the NEXT first family, I would have some respect for her position.

  150. Henry,
    I agree Caroline and Ted are ugly on the inside, and it appears that has leaked to the exterior shells. I have no use for the fake Caroline or the murdering uncle. SHe has NO business in politics and her father was a womanizer that tarnished the Whitehouse. In those days it was accepted, today JFK would be impeached, if not put in prison for Marilyn Monroe. The Kennedy’s (all of them) are a sad, sad part of our government that should be thrown out.
    Now I guess that Robert’s kids are better, but just like Bambi and Blago, its hard to see someone comeout a virgin in a whorehouse. I guess it could be done, at least in Hollywood!

  151. Just heard on local radio…Former Gov Tom Vilsack to be named Ag Sec’y tomorrow.

    There is good and bad to that nomination.

  152. IDUNN, ROTFLMAO!! I agree! I am sick of people putting down Hillary, she has done more than any of them, thats why they hate her. They hate Bill for the same thing. Those same folks idolize JFK, he got a whole lot more than BJ’s in the WH. There’s proof of that!!

  153. And as much I want an woman to replace HRC in the senate, I would even take Cuomo over Caroline. At least he knew who to endorse during the primaries.

  154. Hi and by! LOL
    Wanted to post this before I forgot.

    it’s a clip of Joe Scarborough’s lightbulb moment about the bias against Palin as opposed to the free ride Bo got and he’s lecturing Harwood, Mika and that other bloviating Boston clown forgothisname.

    ADMIN! Please embed!
    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

  155. Probably too late for this unless CAfferty is on the West Coast:

    Here’s my question to you: What qualifies Caroline Kennedy to suddenly become a member of the U.S. Senate?

    Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.

    And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.

  156. Does anyone know who Blago’s campaign manager was?? It seems to me Axelrod was in it somehow, but not sure. I would dearly love for Axelass to go down with Blago, what a Christmas present that would be!

  157. Here’s my question to you: What qualifies Caroline Kennedy to suddenly become a member of the U.S. Senate?
    mythology?

  158. henry,

    Here’s what the WP says her own camp is saying:

    h t t p : / / voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/12/ny-senate_caroline_kennedy_is.html?nav=rss_blog
    At the bottom of the page there is a link for sign-in or register. I think we’ve done alerts here before.

    Caroline Kennedy to Seek Appointment to N.Y. Senate Seat
    ….
    Paterson, speaking today about the Kennedy news, was decidedly noncommittal.
    ….
    [CK’s] case in a nutshell: she is the heir to the most famous
    political legacy in American politics, she has universal name
    identification and the ability to raise untold amounts of money, and she is personally close to the president-elect.

  159. why aren’t the other people who are also seeking consideration making themselves heard…what happened to caroline maloney? i thought there was a campaign for her…are all these people going to just back off and let CK just walk over them?

  160. Here’s that article about ‘merit’…

    “last night, I asked Paterson if the news out of Illinois is affecting his decision-making process about Hillary Clinton’s vacant senate seat.
    He said it made him “more resolved” to find someone based on “merit” and to pick someone who can win in 2010.

    (just add the http etc…)
    politickerny.com/980/after-illinois-paterson-eyes-merit-2010-senator

  161. birdgal Says:
    [turndown said:]
    I swear I DID see a long quote from Paterson saying he was going to appoint on ‘merit’ and wanted a Senator that would keep the job and could win re-election long term.
    ———————

    That statement was made BEFORE all the PR blitz.

    ====================

    Yes, iirc. However we can keep Paterson and others reminded of his ‘merit’ statement, and urge him to hold to it.

    He’s quoted more recently here:
    Paterson, speaking today about the Kennedy news, was decidedly noncommittal. “I’ve had a number of conversations with a number of people who are interested,” Paterson said, according to the New York Daily News. “I have returned a couple of calls from her but have not spoken to her since the initial conversation. Obviously people are interested and would like to come in and present their case, and if they ask for that time I’ll grant it to them.”

    h t t p : / / voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/12/ny-senate_caroline_kennedy_is.html?nav=rss_blog

  162. To be annoyingly fair as usual…. In those days it was not known just how dangerous lobotomy was. We think of that worst case as the normal result, but back then apparently people thought it was a fluke, not to be expected in most cases.

  163. I had to jump down here to say something…if apologies have been offered already, please excuse me.

    Henry and Hillguy:

    1. Knock it off…you are acting like Bambi’s teenage speech writer.

    2. Now go take a cold shower and dry off.

    3. Now take a warm shower using Palmolive anti-bacterial soap.

    4. Go to bed without your supper.

    5. Apologize to the rest of us on this site.

    Thank you, and good night.

  164. JanH Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
    I may not think she is ethical, moral, or anything characteristic of someone who should become a senator, but I draw the line at making personal remarks about her looks or anyone else’s looks.
    =================

    Good for you. I draw the line between looks that a person chose (such as hairstyle, dress style, etc) and looks that are physical things beyond their control. I suspect that color of teeth may be beyond control, a medical issue, or possibly the person refusing to go along with a fad for super-white teeth that may turn out harmful. McCain was criticized about not using teeth whitener too. He and CK both have plenty of time and money, so it’s not just a matter of grooming.

  165. ((Emjay))
    ((Idunn))
    —————
    Confloyd — speaking of JFK’s dalliances, there used to be story circulating about his sharing a mistress with a Chicago mob boss?

  166. S, Perhaps the other hopefuls for HRC’s Senate seat realize a public campaign isn’t the way to go. Of course, I’ve also read that CK’s push has scared some of the lesser-known contenders away.

  167. lil ole grape, That was Sam Giancana. Not a smart idea to bed the mistress of a mobster, even if you are the president and think you can get away with anything.

  168. henry, don’t mind Emjay. He/She’s still holding a grudge against me for making a negative comment about the state of Iowa after the residents there decided Hillary was the 3rd best option to be the next POTUS.

  169. Think about Blagos reaction on tape. I do not have it in front of me. However, if memory serves, he asked Bambi’s representative what he would get from Bambi in exchange for giving the senate seat to whoever Bambi wanted–presumably Jerrard, the response was his gratitude and at that boit Blago went blatto. Right? And now Big Media, and his Media concubines shout from the roof tops see see see that is exculpatory–meaning he is cleam.

    In a pigs eye he’s clean. Try this one on for size and see if it fitz:

    1) first, the surrogate knew the governor was under investigation. Therefore he, she or it had reason to believe the phone was tapped, and intentionally gave an exculpatory answer. Make sense? Then how about this.

    2) second, the governors reaction is what you might expect from someone who was expecting a deal and just got stiffed. What was the basis for that expectation? Since I subscribe to the John Kass view that the governor is not deranged but acting like a normal Chicago politician it is more probable than not there was a prior discussion on the subject between the governor and bambi (or one of his henchmen) weeks or months earlier. I further suspect that options were discussed at that time but no commitment was made. Rather he was told to wait until after the election.

    That is why I commented the day before yesterday that if you want to know whether bambi or his staff discussed a possible quid pro quo for the seat, as would be de rigeur in the Illionis Combine to which both of them belonged, you must look outside the narrow time frame of the past few weeks and to transactions that may not have been taped. Chicago,

    On the odds, there were prior discussions on the subject and something of value was discussed but not offered to the governor at that time. My hunch is this happened at or near the time of the convention.

  170. I also love how people with incorrect facts (Emjay) make carping statements about others posting here, and then hypocritically condemn us for holding a grudge against those who betrayed Hillary.

    For the record, Emjay, Obama’s speechwriter is 27. Your demand for an apology (when one is not warranted in the least), however, is juvenile at best.

  171. “—
    Confloyd — speaking of JFK’s dalliances, there used to be story circulating about his sharing a mistress with a Chicago mob boss?”
    **************
    Judith Campbell (Exner)….doing both Sam Giancana and JFK. She said she carried mob money for Chicago to West Virginia in paper bags inorder to “buy” the W Va Dem primary for JFK. That was the key primary win for him.

  172. December 16, 2008

    BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist
    Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds — dealing with his boss’ vacant Senate seat!

  173. lil ole grape Says:

    December 16th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
    why can’t I log out?
    &&&&&&&&&

    Hotel Hillafornia: “You can check in any time you like, but you can never leave”.

  174. SHV, I bet there were paper bags in the 60’s for sure. I would like to know how many paper bags were past around by those mistresses (male/female) this year for the Obamanation?? I think now it has to be an ongoing payola, since he is still trying to squeeze more money from his supporters.

    Do we really have any honest people left running our country??

    I am sure having trouble finding employees at my establishment that don’t have sticky fingers. Its quite irritating. Its not like I have any extra to spare and would gladly give it to them if they ask, but they would rather steal, I guess its more exciting!

  175. h t t p : / / pajamasmedia.com/blog/groping-hillary-without-consequences-the-case-of-jon-favreau/
    Comment box at the bottom; no login. ‘Awaiting moderation.’ Do copy
    your post with Ctl-A Ctl-C then hold the Submit button long and firm
    so it doesn’t say “You’re posting too fast”.

    The PUMA posted:

    President-elect Obama has not made any public statement about this
    insulting and sexist behavior on the part of the 27-year-old Favreau.
    Obama has not seen fit to publicly denounce this behavior, to ensure
    that Mr. Favreau make a public apology, nor has the president-elect
    deemed it necessary to fire Mr. Favreau. Instead, Barack Obama has
    remained silent, providing yet another example of how his actions do
    not match his words. Barack Obama has stated a commitment to work for
    women’s rights, including the reduction of violence against women.
    However, here we have his main speechwriter miming an act that is the
    prelude to what is now commonly referred to as date rape, miming
    sexual molestation that is specifically directed toward the woman who
    in all likelihood will be the next secretary of state, and for this
    Obama has not a word to say.

  176. turndownobama-com, and JanH:

    For your information, I have been on this site longer than both of you combined. I fought long and hard in the trenches for Hillary this whole year in CA, TX, and PA.

    Why don’t look at the troll-speak invective Emjay harpooned my direction:

    Emjay Says:
    December 16th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    And BTW, that comment from Emjay was in reference to remarks I made about Caroline Kennedy being an ugly person for WHAT SHE DID TO HILLARY, MY PERSONAL HERO. So you two can go screw off. You don’t add any insight or information worth reading on this blog anyhow.

  177. I find myself disappointed and dismayed at the rise in negative and profane remarks about the personal appearance ,manner of dress,speech and political beliefs of players in the political arena.
    I believe in free speech and opinions but these issues are now grouping many of us in with the msm and the Hillary haters and it is very unfortunateFor me I reserve the right to not respond to these kinds of posts. I am certain that civility is more effective in persuading others to analyze and make judgements of the players in the political games by their knowledge agenda and integrity rather than how we we look in our God given treasure of life.Lighten up guys and enjoy the good things we can learn from each other as friends rather than political adversaries.

    By ABM90 I repeat again as wbboei has quoted from the novel
    “A man without a country”
    “Breathes there a man with soul so dead,who never to himself has said,this is my own and native land”.Let us all enjoy this gift of free speech and the freedom to listen and criticize.

  178. Heads Up Chicadees, friends and foes alike…

    Major flaw revealed in Internet Explorer; users urged to switch

    Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:49 EST

    The major press outlets are abuzz this morning with news of a major new security flaw that affects all versions of Internet Explorer from IE5 to the latest beta of IE8. The attack has serious and far-reaching ramifications — and they’re not just theoretical attacks. In fact, the flaw is already in wide use as a tool to steal online game passwords, with some 10,000 websites infected with the code needed to take advantage of the hole in IE.

    Virtually all security experts (as well as myself) are counseling users to switch to any other web browser — none of the others are affected, including Firefox, Chrome, and Opera — at least for the time being, though Microsoft has stubbornly said it “cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw.” Microsoft adds that it is working on a fix but has offered no ETA on when that might happen. Meanwhile it offers some suggestions for a temporary patch, including setting your Internet security zone settings to “high” and offering some complicated workarounds. (Some reports state, however, that the fixes do not actually work.)

    Expedient patching or switching are essential. Security pros fear that the attack will soon spread beyond the theft of gaming passwords and into more criminal arenas, as the malicious code can be placed on any website and can be adapted to steal any password stored or entered using the browser. It’s now down to the issue of time: Will Microsoft repair the problem and distribute a patch quickly enough to head off the tsunami of fraud that’s about to hit or will it come too late to do any good?

    Meanwhile, I’ll reiterate my recommendation: Switch from Internet Explorer as soon as you can. You can always switch back once the threat is eliminated.

    Links for other browsers to try: Firefox Chrome Safari Opera

    The major press outlets are abuzz with news of a major new security flaw that affects all versions of Internet Explorer from IE5 to the latest beta of IE8. The attack has serious and far-reaching ramifications — and they’re not just theoretical attacks. In fact, the flaw is already in wide use as a tool to steal online game passwords, with some 10,000 websites infected with the code needed to take advantage of the hole in IE.

    Virtually all security experts (as well as myself) are counseling users to switch to any other web browser — none of the others are affected, including Firefox, Chrome, and Opera — at least for the time being, though Microsoft has stubbornly said it “cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw.” Microsoft adds that it is working on a fix but has offered no ETA on when that might happen. Meanwhile it offers some suggestions for a temporary patch, including setting your Internet security zone settings to “high” and offering some complicated workarounds. (Some reports state, however, that the fixes do not actually work.)

    Expedient patching or switching are essential. Security pros fear that the attack will soon spread beyond the theft of gaming passwords and into more criminal arenas, as the malicious code can be placed on any website and can be adapted to steal any password stored or entered using the browser. It’s now down to the issue of time: Will Microsoft repair the problem and distribute a patch quickly enough to head off the tsunami of fraud that’s about to hit or will it come too late to do any good?

    Meanwhile, I’ll reiterate my recommendation: Switch from Internet Explorer as soon as you can. You can always switch back once the threat is eliminated.

    Links for other browsers to try: Firefox Chrome Safari Opera

  179. For those who are speaking up and for whom I do not have email addys:

    Thanks for the on site, other sites, telecom and email contacts…I appreciate that folks like you are on Big Pink

  180. Just got a call…sorry for the double comment…like others, can’t scroll down in submit comment box. Am using alternate browser…maybe that’s it.
    .

  181. The local news carried a story about the Gov not wanted to answer questions today at a press conference about the FBI investigation. They then interview a local polical analysts who said he felt this investigation might work against his confirmation. The way he put it, it will be difficult to confirm him, with this investigation hanging over his head.

    Another one used, now will they throw him under the bus? I would prefer he goes at this point, but if he is found guilty, I guess he will not be Governor anyway.

    Again the pattern continues. Do you think the superdelegates will realized how they have been used?

  182. OMGosh

    Kissinger home from Russia this morning…says it would have been easier 3 yrs ago, but we MUST negociate with Russia to put the missile defense in Poland, that the Eastern European countries want and need it because they fear Russia, and Iran.

    Says paradoxically, this is the moment of greatest danger, crisis and difficulty since 1945-50, but also the time of greatest opportunity.

    Wow.

    Thank goodness we have Hillary in the State Department.

    This fom Charlie Rose’s show, taped 7pm ET, showing in the midwest right now.

  183. gonzotx Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 1:21 am
    I think it is a done deal that CK gets Hillary’s hard earned seat.
    =====================

    That’s the image they’re trying to project. But it isn’t true. The decision is up to Gov Paterson. See recent stories in h t t p : / / PumaResponders.blogspot.com

  184. As privacy ends for Kennedy, rough path awaits
    She faces skepticism about experience, charges of entitlement

    By Adam Nagourney and Nicholas Confessore

    updated 7:56 p.m. PT, Tues., Dec. 16, 2008
    WASHINGTON – On the day Caroline Kennedy declared she wanted to succeed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton , one of the first people she called was the mayor of Buffalo.
    She told him she wanted to visit western New York. She told him she wanted to learn more about regional issues.

    The mayor, Byron W. Brown , said he would welcome her. But he had a message for Ms. Kennedy, too, offering her a preview of what her life is about to become: “I think upstaters are going to want an upstater on the ticket,” he said.

    The decision by Ms. Kennedy to end a highly private existence and enter politics — New York politics, no less — presents what even her supporters acknowledge is a gamble on a carefully cultivated reputation for quiet competence and dignity established over the 45 years since her father was assassinated.
    She must overcome skepticism about her experience and credentials, and deflate what some Democrats view as a sense of entitlement by a member of a storied American political family trying to begin her political career near the top of the ladder.

    These concerns are coming into sharp relief as Ms. Kennedy begins an understated if carefully orchestrated rollout, with calls to political leaders early this week, and a trip upstate, including a private meeting with the mayor of Syracuse, on Wednesday.

    “Obviously she is a celebrity,” said H. Carl McCall , the former state comptroller and the Democratic candidate for governor in 2002.
    “But I think the real issue here is, do you want someone who is a celebrity and comes from the right family and gives the sense that this is something for a person of privilege? Or do you go with someone who has paid some political dues, for whom you have a sense of how they might perform.”

    He added: “She’s never been tested, and there are a lot of people out here who have been.”
    For Ms. Kennedy, it’s not only the inevitable (and history suggests surmountable) resistance from upstaters to a Manhattan lawyer who makes her home on Park Avenue, or the wariness of New York political leaders who expect a certain amount of deference and dues-paying.

    After years of being largely given a pass by New York’s notoriously rambunctious tabloid press, which have yielded to her desire for privacy, Ms. Kennedy is almost certainly about to get a working over by reporters who may not be as enchanted with, or intimidated by, the Kennedy presence as reporters of an earlier generation were.

    “The tabloid culture is going to relentlessly follow her across the state,” said Robert Hardt, the political director for NY1, the 24-hour New York City news station, and a former political reporter for The New York Post. “If she doesn’t dot every I and cross every T, the New York tabloids are going to be, ‘Gotcha!’ ”

    “New York political reporters just don’t know Caroline Kennedy,” Mr. Hardt continued. “We just can’t wait to talk to her.”

    The extent to which her late brother John Kennedy Jr. became a fixture in the tabloids after he raised his profile by co-founding George Magazine is instructive, Democrats said. And Ms. Kennedy’s arrival on the public stage is taking place while bad feelings still linger between the Kennedy family and Andrew M. Cuomo , the state’s attorney general, who engaged in a bitter divorce battle with Kerry Kennedy, one of Caroline’s cousins.

    Ms. Kennedy’s supporters acknowledge that she has her work cut out for her; if Gov. David A. Paterson appointed her, she would have to run for office in 2010, and potentially again in 2012. Still, they said that New York, for all its challenges — turf-minded political leaders, intensely ambitious rivals, bomb-throwing reporters and a minefield of tough issues — might prove a good training ground.

    “New York likes candidates like Pat Moynihan and Robert Kennedy and Hillary Clinton and I would put Caroline in that category,” said Robert Shrum, a Democratic consultant with strong ties to the Kennedy family. “We always assume that they are going to have more trouble than they do.”

    “It’s a state that likes people of stature. It’s a state that elected Robert Kennedy, Andrew Cuomo, Hillary Clinton,” he said.

    And there is clearly enthusiasm for her among some powerful people; Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, said on Tuesday that he had called Mr. Paterson last week and urged him to choose Ms. Kennedy. “We have a lot of stars from New York: Bobby Kennedy. Hillary Clinton,” he told Las Vegas 1, an all-news station in Nevada. “I think Caroline Kennedy would be perfect.”

    Ms. Kennedy’s advisers suggested that they were looking to how Mrs. Clinton ran her race for the Senate in 2000 and dealt with similar obstacles. And some people who worked for Mrs. Clinton during that race expressed confidence that Ms. Kennedy could address the concerns New Yorkers have about her.

    “As Hillary did, she has to overcome the experience question by showing she can get results for New Yorkers: I think she can do that,” said Mark Penn , who was a senior adviser to Ms. Clinton in her Senate race (and in her presidential race last year).

    Mrs. Clinton, however, had two years to get her political bearings in New York, and was a known policy wonk, eager to absorb copious details and issues. Representative Nita M. Lowey , the Westchester Democrat who explored a Senate bid in 2000 but backed out when Mrs. Clinton came on the stage, said the state’s size and political diversity would be daunting to anyone entering politics for the first time.

    Indeed, Ms. Kennedy’s geographic familiarity with the state — or lack of it — appears a sensitive subject. Asked on Tuesday whether Ms. Kennedy had traveled before to Syracuse, Buffalo or Rochester, a spokesman declined to respond.
    “It’s not an easy position to make one’s debut in statewide office,” Ms. Lowey said. “You are constantly learning and she’ll have to learn quickly. She has to be able to deal with the constant glare of the media spotlight on her and every word on her being scrutinized. She has to understand that.”

    And New York political leaders can be, to put it mildly, a fairly high-maintenance bunch, and have not exactly welcomed the prospect of her candidacy.

    “She called me yesterday afternoon,” said Randi Weingarten , president of the United Federation of Teachers , and someone whose own name was mentioned last week as a long-shot candidate for the Senate vacancy.

    “It is the first conversation I’ve had with Caroline Kennedy, for all the years that she’s worked in and around the school system, on anything related to education,” Ms. Weingarten said.
    Mrs. Clinton, as a former first lady, was well-known to New Yorkers. Ms. Kennedy is a paradox: a universally recognized person who remains largely unknown by the public, and has no obvious appetite for the glad-handing of the campaign trail. And since telling Mr. Paterson on Monday she wanted the seat, she has declined all requests for interviews.

    That said, Mrs. Clinton’s political skills in 2000 proved as much of a mystery to everyone — including her own advisers — as Ms. Kennedy’s are today.

    “None of us know — including her — how she will be as a campaigner,” said Harold M. Ickes , who was a senior adviser to Mrs. Clinton in 2000, referring to Ms. Kennedy. “New Yorkers will cut her some slack if she’s appointed, just because of who she is. But at bottom she has to be a good campaigner.”

    Upstate newspapers have greeted Ms. Kennedy like a cold front coming down from Lake Ontario. In Rochester, The Democrat and Chronicle’s editorial page compared Ms. Kennedy with Andrew Cuomo and said that, on the “upstate barometer, between the two it’s Cuomo hands down.” (Mr. Cuomo, a graduate of Albany Law School who spent years in the capital when his father was governor, has assiduously courted areas like Buffalo and Rochester as attorney general.)

    It advised Ms. Kennedy to mount a “listening tour” forthwith. But in an interview on Tuesday, the paper’s editorial page editor, James Lawrence, said it is also important that she demonstrate command of the area’s issues.
    “What does she know about upstate?” he asked.
    Jack Kittle, the political director of District Council 9 of the 10,000-member painters’ union, said he spoke to Ms. Kennedy Tuesday and offered blunt advice: “Rub elbows with people. That’s the hardest thing in the world, to me anyway. And she’d better get used to it, because next year she’ll be dialing for dollars.”

  185. Less than a year ago, it was laughable that Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg’s (what about her MARRIED name that she has claimed for the past two decades?) name would be mentioned as a Senate contender – as ludicrious as BHO becoming the “Dimocratic” nominee. Of course, that was before we witnessed the SELECTION of BHO by the Dims – the GRINCH stealth with which the title – therefore, the POTUS was outright stolen from HRC.

    So…..fully expect this next rug to be jerked any day…regardless of what upstate New Yorkers or Manhattan New Yawker’s think….since when do people matter? Patterson would be viewed with the disgust of an assassin if not crowinng “America’s Princess” – sickening.

    Like history has shown – the Kennedy clan’s claim to the WH was with dirty money in brown paper bags courted by Mob mistresses, Cooke County – Daley’s Chicago was bought by Joe Kennedy in 1960 for JFK and put him over the top over Nixon at the midnight hour – literally…..then we wonder why RFK was gunned down by the Mob (Sirhan Sirhan was the patsy) when as AG – he went after organized crime? Duh…..He was still the ONLY Kennedy worthy of public office.

    So, let’s get another huge dose of DOUBLE STANDARD when CKS is treated like her mother Jackie O, with kid gloves – after witnessing Big Media make mincemeat out of HRC and SP. Nausea and vomiting to follow most assuredly……another reason we owe no allegiance to the Dimocratic Party – the party of Ali Baba and his forty thieves……

  186. Where have these reluctant name hiding candidates coming from and and hope to gain by the name change in hopes of burying their lack of accomplishments.During the campaign BHO wanted to be called just BO now that he is ready to be annointed he wishes to be called Barack Hussein Obama.Pay Back maybe?
    New on the scene of wannabe’s is CK and up until now has prefered being called that.What about your real name?will you
    you too prefer to stay incognito until if and when if ever you are nominated as a NY senator.Fess up young un’use your realhandle Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg.It is a long name but it is who you are and you should wear it proudly if you are to succede
    in your new venture.Good luck young un’,you will need it.

    By ABM90 Hat’s off to you Emjay

  187. Could it be that then like now, we were being manipulated by the press? However, today we have access to the internet, and the Press is not able to hide things that they once choose to hide, for their own purposes/

  188. ABM90,

    Do you remember those “Dead End Kids” movies in the 1930’s and 1940’s?

    That’s how I see Obama and C. Kennedy Schlossberg. History will say that these were the two most unexperienced children to run for federal office of all time. It’s like letting Dick and Jane drive Daddy’s car.

    Not something to be proud of.

  189. janH: These are the new political aspirants that have been spawned by money and race and it has taken its toll on the integrity of our electoral system but believe me it will not be long before bho will be exposed as just another political hack turned out by the infamous Chicago cesspool of barbarians.Matter of fact janh I started out watching silent movies as we lived in ahome behind the only movie house in the area and the manager allowed me to come and sit near the lady that played the piano to add excitement and set the mood for that snowstorm screen quality and the constant breaking of the film strip.That is when she ad-libbed the music to calm the irrate audience.I always felt sorry for the little black boy called Farina who suffered at the hands of fatty Arbuckle.Then along came the talkies and the great Al Jolson and many of the local immigrant movie goers had no way to understand the dialog and the piano lady was no longer needed.Life was so simple then but I would not go back to that era except to give some input to young people like you that value the past and wish to make the future better those to follow.

    By ABM90 Oh what a treasure trove of friends I have here at
    Big Pink and they are filling my days precious thoughts and a tommorow filled with challenges.

  190. Oh my goodness ABM90!

    You tell such amazing life stories. My parents told me very similar ones. I used to watch the “oldies” with my mom in later years. She adored the Judy Garland movies and other musicals.

  191. gonzotx Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 1:21 am
    I think it is a done deal that CK gets Hillary’s hard earned seat. What a Shame.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Is she “inevitable”? I hope not. Hopefully, the shame factor will prevent Patterson from appointing the underqualified Nepotism Candidate.

    There are certainly many truly qualified people within NY’s own state borders.

    And they wouldn’t carry the stench of favoritism, or even worse, quid pro quo backroom dealings:

    Kennedy to Obama: “I’ll come out early to to support you, but you’ll owe me a big favor”

    Obummer to Patterson: “I need to repay ‘a friend’ with a favor, can you help me out here with this Caroline situation, and I’ll owe you a favor”.

    Patterson: “You already owe me a favor for so rapidly dropping Hillary after the RBC’s 5/31 decision that you could actually here it from 100 miles away. So this would make it two favors. Or one large favor.j”

  192. Death, taxes and big media love for celebrities on the way up but not on the was down.

    Those things are inevitable.

    The candidacy of an unqualified trust fund baby purely on the basis of her family name and an uncle who is the very thing FDR accused his father of being, i.e. the most evil man I have ever met . . .

    That is not inevitable.

    The New York Times headline states the problem the trust fund baby faces in this attempted seizure of power from the people of New York:

    “As privacy ends for Kennedy, rough path awaits
    She faces skepticism about experience, charges of entitlement”.

    Their tone will change however if this appears that the power elites are lining up. In that case the paper will produce follow up articles about the remarkable traction she is gaining. And then the big push on this governor–with phony polls.

    Personally, I thnk Patterson is a trembling tower of tapicoca. Thus the fate of this trust fund baby will depend on how hard each side pushes. Principle means nothing to this man. We know that much from how this much flawed treated Hillary as pointed out above.

    I still believe the greatest beneficiary of her candidacy is Peter King. As for Kennedy, we may well want a woman in that seat, but NOT THAT WOMAN. We have heard that line before from left wing Nazis so it should not require too much practice to throw it right back in their faces.

    Art is long, tilme is fleeting and Campbell Brown is an ignoramus. Yes, some things are inevitable. Everything else in life is negotitable.

  193. No Turning Back: Kennedy Starts NY Senate Campaign

    Caroline Meeting With Upstate Politicians & Power Brokers As Senate Seat Campaign Begins

    wcbstv.com/local/caroline.kennedy.poll.2.889384.html

  194. Hey all,

    Can you please email Roland Martin of CNN in re: to his article:
    w w w .cnn.c o m /2008/POLITICS/12/16/martin.kennedy/index.html

    Where he lists Hillary’s incoming qualifications as:

    ” Her resume?

    First lady. Lawyer. Advocate for health care and children’s issues.

    That’s it. ”

    I got so angry that I wrote him a nice email reminding of Hillary’s track record. And that the election is over and Obama won, so he can stop bashing her now. His email is roland@rolandsmartin.com.

    Thank you!

  195. Anyone know, what type of brain tumor TK has?
    —————————————–
    Astrocytoma. They grade them one to four. One and two are operable. Three and four are uniformly fatal. He has a four. They use surgery, radiation and chemo to fight it. The body can only handle so much radiation, and then they must stop (4500). Astrocytoma is a star shaped cancer and they can never get it all. The time table will vary but it will probably be a year to eigtheen months. Every minute this bastard has lived since his drunken negligence and cowadice killed a young woman and his family money and influence made it go away is a minute of borrowed time. I have no sympathy. None.

  196. I would call it an unfortunate one that we all hope we do not have to battle.We are all vulnerable and must have sympathy for its victims.Having said that I will never forgive him for his act of
    abandoning Hillary in order to preserve his power in the senate and extending the flawed Kennedy legacy of money talks and he decides who walks. birdgal I am sure that my answer does not answer your inquiry but mercy is called for now and then

    By ABM90 Thank you Birdgirl

  197. If this CK celebrity doesn’t get, maybe Calvin Klein can be nominated.

    Have you heard about his latest perfume: CK Woof, “For a man, a woman, or a dog”.

  198. wbboei and ABM90: Thank you both for your information. I wouldn’t wish a brain tumor on anyone, but TK has shown not mercy on anyone, but himself. His actions throughout his life have been very destructive.

  199. Good morning wbboei: As always a great post and I admire the intensity of your feelings toward the people responsible for stealing the presidency from Hillary and you keep me waiting for the next post and awesome knowledge of the political games being played while the people are burdened with question of how can we survive this economic disaster that is deystroying so many families.

    By ABM90 Thanks friend.

  200. What’s in a name? …
    Can you imagine our “favorite” fast-talking TV personalities having to say Senator Schlossberg suggested, Senator Schlossberg, etc………. still, it’s probably abetter name than Kennedy, which brings to mind a few family traits, such as drunkenness, drugs, womanizing, rape and drug charges, not to mention dirty deals with Chicago mobsters, buying votes and rigging elections, possible murder at Dyke Bridge… for the history buffs among us, Joe sr was a nazi sympathizer and an anti-Semite – lost his ambassadorship over it – oh, great family. Lady Caroline of the Name brings her heritage to public office, continuing the family tradition by cheating her unqualified way into her first big job

  201. A little off topic but….

    Russell Crowe To Play Bill Clinton?
    December 17th, 2008 9:32am EST

    Russell Crowe is reportedly lined up to portray former U.S. President Bill Clinton in a new biopic.

    The forthcoming film, entitled The Special Relationship, will focus on Clinton’s dealings with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Michael Sheen – who played Blair in 2006’s The Queen – is reportedly set to take on the role again for the new movie.

    A source tells Britain’s Daily Express, “Russell is currently our favorite to play Clinton. He might not initially appear the obvious choice but it’s felt he could turn out to be ideal. It’s understood his involvement could be confirmed early next year.”

    http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/12/17/russell_crowe_to_play_bill_clinton_

  202. I am not the judge of TK, but I have had a hard time thinking he was any better than most, and instead felt he was worse, ever since that women died in the car. I feel for her family. I can only say, that someone else will judge TK, and that person is the final authority.

    What I can do is to continue to express my sympathy to the women’s family that lost a daughter, and a future (as I remember she was an only child).

    I also feel that his political support by the voters in his home state reminds me of the marriage proposals that murders get on death row. For some reason, his electorate felt he was worthy of being elected to the Senate. He even ran for the Presidency after that. I personally did not think he was worthy of their support.

    People will point to his record of achievements. However, all I see is his failure to save another human being, which I think over shadows any achievements he has acccomplished.

  203. LJ—
    ————————————–
    Roland-

    Do you have any clue what a journalist is? I did not think so. So let me tell you. A journalist is someone who tells the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    That my friend aint you. So what exactly are you? The answer is obvious–a propagandist. Your role model is a cross between Josef Goebbels and Peewee Herman.

    You are a funny little man. Your comparison of trust fund baby Caroline Kennedy to the qualifications of the incumbent is a riot–and you know it.

    Yes, I am a big fan of yours. How can anyone forget that video tape of you and brazille–two pigs in a barrom locked in a passionate dance, the caption to read: makin bacon. Or perhaps rolin rolin rolin rawhide.

    So here’s looking at you kid.

    wb

  204. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIA THE NEW YORK TIMES!!! OBAMA NEEDS BUSH AND HILLARY TO ANSWER THAT 3AM PHONE CALL!!

    Bush Prepares Crisis Briefings to Aid Obama

    By PETER BAKER
    Published: December 16, 2008

    WASHINGTON — The White House has prepared more than a dozen contingency plans to help guide President-elect Barack Obama if an international crisis erupts in the opening days of his administration, part of an elaborate operation devised to smooth the first transition of power since Sept. 11, 2001.

    Snip

    The contingency plans, he said, provide the new president a variety of possible responses to certain situations rather than a specific course of action. “It’s a menu of contingencies and potential options,”

    snip

    The real test for Mr. Obama will be projecting leadership.

    “For a president thinking about crisis management,” Mr. Carafano said, “the most important thing is not decision making, it’s public relations.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/us/politics/17transition.html?ref=us

  205. wbboei Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am
    ————————————————————————————

    Tell it like it is! LOL!

  206. Roland Martin is guilty of reverse discrimination/racism to the highest degree. He used the race card repeatedly and for the most ridiculous reasons in order to viciously attack Senator Clinton over and over again. He needs to look in a mirror and do an honest self-assessment. He is the cheapest of scandal writers and town cryers (I refuse to call this charleton a journalist). His jealousy of Hillary as well as Brazille’s hatred for her shone through every word/rant that came out of their mouths during the election.

  207. NMF, I agree with your assessment of Ted Kennedy, ‘…all I see is his failure to save another human being, which I think over shadows any achievements he has acccomplished.’ I have no mercy for him as I am but human – that will be for our Maker to decide.

    Caroline Kennedy will be GIFTED the senator seat; lackluster people/politicians who garnered few votes nationwide sit with those of her ilk, like Joe Biden, what a lovely vision that makes in my head.
    No one has discussed the after effects of a brain tumor, like loss of memory and impaired judgement – and that combined with ill effects of radiation and such. Therefore, I contend that Ted Kennedy is not in his ‘right’ mind and should not be trusted with the welfare of those in his electorate or the nation. Period.

  208. Have other people heard that TK wants his wife to take over his senatorial seat, when he is not longer able to work?

    Short Termer: You are definitely correct in you assessment of the after effects of radiation and chemotherapy. Fatigue is another very common side effect. When one adds in the age factor, TK’s stamina probably is not very high. He must be getting a lot of help from his wife.

  209. I wonder if Harrison Ford is interested in a senate seat? I’ve had such a crush on the guy for years…lol…and since it seems as if we are going for the celebrity factor, I’d at least like to get someone I like! Or maybe Pierce Brosnan? (insert sarcasm here)

  210. and now the whole thing…

    There has been a lot of talk lately about Pay to Play. What with Blagojevich getting caught trying to sell Obama’s senate seat? What of Obama and his people perhaps trying to negotiate something for that seat (Read Fitzgerald’s Complaint or Truthteller’s posts.)

    There are many unanswered questions. For instance, why would Blagojevich take this direction if he did not think maybe from past experience that Obama would be receptive?

    If Obama was the lone virgin in the whorehouse of Chicago politics (as one commenter put it), why would Blagojevich even attempt this at this time knowing that the Feds are on to him? May be our premise is wrong. Obama is not the lone virgin as Obama supporters might dream.

    Look at what happened during the primaries. Things got rough and competitive. Hillary Clinton and her supporters put up a good fight. How could they not when many of them knew she got the majority popular vote and would have led in delegates if not for DNC shenanigans? It all came down to the superdelegates. But Obama was ready and I am sure his experience with Chicago politics came in handy. Political Intelligence revealed some numbers back in February:

    Obama’s political action committee has doled out more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005, the study found, and of the 81 who had announced their support for Obama, 34 had received donations totaling $228,000.

    Who gave him all that money and why? He just got elected to the senate in 2004. Would Fannie and Freddie be in there? Most definitely. He was the second politician to get the most money from Fannie and Freddie next only to Dodd. He is a miracle worker. But but..I digress.

    Back to the Political Intelligence story from February, because I can hear Obama supporters screaming, “Hillary did it too!” Perhaps. But the scale of the numbers tells you a different story. Looks to me like Hillary was arguing for the merits of the case when many superdelegates were thinking “what is in it for me?”

    Clinton’s political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates, and only 13 of the 109 who had announced for her have received money, totaling about $95,000.

    When the article was written in February, about half the 800 superdelegates had committed to either Clinton or Obama. All those people who partook a share of the $694,000 slowly trickled into Camp Obama without making it of course, too obvious. Sort of Pay to Play in slow motion.

    Fast forwarding to now, how is this for a pay to play? We all know how the quiet and very private aristocrat Caroline Kennedy (she seems to have dropped the Schlossberg name) was thrust into the limelight by her uncle, Ted Kennedy during the primary and how she campaigned for Obama. Ted Kennedy is now pressuring NY Governor Paterson to appoint Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg to Senator Clinton’s seat. From NYPost this is what Ted Kennedy told Paterson:

    The elder Kennedy (D-Mass.), who’s battling brain cancer, has sent word to Gov. Paterson’s office that Caroline Kennedy, 51, has contacts and family connections that would mean legislation affecting New York would receive prompt attention, family sources said.

    What exactly is he saying? That lawmakers don’t do their job without the influence of name and money? Unlike Blagojevich, these people are not crass enough to buy or sell with money but they do want a senate seat for campaigning for Obama.

    Elections? Who needs them? Let us just:

    * put it on eBay and sell it to the highest bidder
    * dig dirt on the opponents’ sex life and eliminate them before the elections, of course
    * get an uncle to throw his weight (a lot of it) around
    * dispute signatures and other evidence of opponent’s support and eliminate them
    * bribe or threaten the corrupt media to start their chorus and sing your tune

    All of them have been tested by PEBO and have his seal of approval except the first one. That will be my suggestion and we will save millions of taxpayer dollars.

    Wait.. I almost forgot

    * scream racist at the opponent and his/her supporters (unique to PEBO but may be copied for future reference by any AA politician.)

  211. LJ Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 11:12 am
    Hey all,

    Can you please email Roland Martin of CNN in re: to his article:
    w w w .cnn.c o m /2008/POLITICS/12/16/martin.kennedy/index.html

    =================

    Does this have a place for comments that will be PUBLISHED? I don’t want to even go to the site otherwise.

  212. The elder Kennedy (D-Mass.), who’s battling brain cancer, has sent word to Gov. Paterson’s office that Caroline Kennedy, 51, has contacts and family connections that would mean legislation affecting New York would receive prompt attention, family sources said.
    ————————————-
    First, this is an unenforceable promise. Kennedy will be dead soon. Second, protection schemes of this nature (pay me not to burn down your building) are only effective when they are kept under wraps. This one is out in the open, and any attempt by Kennedy minions in congress to block critical legislation to New York will be seen for what they are. This is all the more reason for Patterson to say I have been threatened and I will not yield to the threat.

  213. The biggest story right now is what the central bank is doing to establish an interest rate of virutal zero, and to print large sums of new dollars making those that we hold now worthless. (I exaggerate a bit to make the point clear). The fundamental problem is the decline in economic activity and they need to jump start the economy. The forever unreliable big media leads us to believe that the baramoter of the economy is the stock market, because that is where those plutocrats have their own money invested. But the truth is it is to be measured by whether people have jobs, and whether those jobs give them the buying power they need to provide a decent standard of living. Looking ahead, that is the largest threat than declines in the stock market routine or systemic. Certain industries are leading indicators of when the economy will improve. One of the best measures, believe it or not, is the transportation industry. It leads an acutual economy by maybe 12 months. That industry is still way down. I was talking to a UPS representative the other day, and a DC lawyer whose firm represents the less than truckload carriers (Yellow, Roadway, ABF). They each confirmed this to me independently. What I personally believe is that there will be a huge influx of foreign money into our country over the next few years as the cost of assets plummets. With that will come greater foreign control over our future. This makes the job Hillary is aceding to all the more important. In terms of functionality it may be more important than the one they cheated her out of.

  214. So….there’s “pay-to-play” in Chicago” and “pay-to-play” in New York as well. NO DIFFERENCE.

    One’s on tape (Eww…) and the other is plastered proudly and blatantly all over Big Media – so since Uncle Teddy strong arms Patterson our in the open with bribes of campaign contributions to name niece, that makes it okay, I suppose?

    Just because they are Kennedy’s and he has inoperable terminal brain cancer….doesn’t give NY and Patterson/Teddy a pass. It’s still the same dirty politics. Pay-to-play CHicag0-style vs Pay-to-play New York-style.

    DISGUSTING AND CORRUPT. REVOLUTION TIME.

    If it walks like a duck…quacks like a duck…

  215. wbboei Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    “One of the best measures, believe it or not, is the transportation industry.”
    **************
    I have a friend who works at home as a broker for truck transport…the profit per load is small, $20-$70; one year ago, by working ~16 hours/day, he was making $70-100k/month..now essentially $0…very bad news for the economy.

  216. Are any Kennedy teenagers being promised mayorships, you know, as stepping stones to put on their resume?

    Picklepedia: “At age 12, ___ Kennedy became America’s youngest mayor, after being appointed by Gov. Sewandsew. This fills the vacancy left after a suspicious death of the previous mayor, who was reportedly getting ready to run against the Governor.”

  217. Is JJJ getting an expensive PR ‘reputaion scrubbing?’

    From PoliticalTicker:

    Jackson, Jr. an informant to Blago investigations
    Posted: 07:44 PM ET
    Sources close to Rep. Jackson, Jr. told CNN Tuesday that the Illinois congressman has supplied information regarding Gov. Blagojevich to federal law enforcement officials since 2006.
    Sources close to Rep. Jackson, Jr. told CNN Tuesday that the Illinois congressman has supplied information regarding Gov. Blagojevich to federal law enforcement officials since 2006.

    SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (CNN) — Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. — who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich — has been an informant for at least a decade with the U.S. Attorney’s office, and has informed on the embattled governor of Illinois, though not in the case currently under investigation, Jackson spokesman Kenneth Edmonds told CNN Tuesday.

    In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich — then running for governor of Illinois — solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get.

    At the time, Jackson’s wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state’s Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said.

    After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, “You see what $25,000 would have done?” the sources said.

    In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said.

    The report, the sources said, came three three years later because Jackson’s memory was jogged by another case — that of developer Tony Rezko, whose fraud and corruption trial included testimony about $25,000 donations to Blagojevich.

    Jackson did not endorse Blagojevich in his initial campaign and tried to stay on the sidelines during the governor’s re-election bid, one of the sources said.

    Blagojevich’s office did not return calls seeking comment.

  218. Wait til you see the front cover of Time’s Man of the Year!

    It is BO, natch, but the TIME title is placed just so….it looks like he is wearing a coronet (small crown). Hilarious, and such an obvious optical trick.

  219. curiosityhasme Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
    So….there’s “pay-to-play” in Chicago” and “pay-to-play” in New York as well. NO DIFFERENCE.

    —————————————————

    I’m fairly sure this “pay-to-play” has been in operations for years and years, at least going back to John F. Kennedy. His becoming a president was set in stone with pay-offs and Chicago arm-twisting. We can add Washington to that list as well. In fact history relays story after story of briberies, murder, political intrigue throughout the world.

    A sad state of affairs.

  220. Is JJJ getting an expensive PR ‘reputaion scrubbing?’
    —————————————
    The way you become a snitch is they have something on you and you trade up. I wonder what they had on jjj? If I were a co-member of the combine and he wanted to say something to me privately I would open his shirt to make sure he was not wearing a wire. This disclosure is controversial to say the least. It does not make him a hero among the people who count. More likely it will end his career. How can anyone trust a snitch? One of the past presidents of a major union was an FBI informant. I knew him and liked him. But once the word got out that he was an FBI informant nobody in that organization would deal with him. Again, this is not the kind of thing JJJ would disclose unless he trying to distract us from something worse. If he is looking to rehabilitate his reputation this is not the way it is done.

  221. It is funny JJJ would plead shakedowns. Why? Because he has just given us motive for trying to buy the senate. He knew from past experiece that the governor would deal.

    It is like the old head of Tameny Hall famously said: “I seen me opportunities . . and I took em.”

  222. the guy is a rube.

    1. 2003 B asks for a 25 k contribution–JJJ declines, and-

    2. 2004 B says look what that contribution would have got you, and-

    3. 2006 which is two (2) years later JJJ reports it

    It there anything wrong wiht this picture. If you had been told that in 2004 why would you wait until 2006 to report it. Obviously there was some other reason–yes? no? maybe?

    4. oh, but the coup d gras has got to be this: his memory was jogged by the Rezko trial.

    If you believe that one you must also believe in the tooth fairy.

  223. I saw JJJ interviewed on CNN last Sunday. I’m sorry but me thinks he protests too much. He came across trying to be very smooth but instead looking sly at best.

  224. rgb44hrc Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    and now the whole thing…

    There has been a lot of talk lately about Pay to Play. What with Blagojevich getting caught trying to sell Obama’s senate seat? What of Obama and his people perhaps trying to negotiate something for that seat (Read Fitzgerald’s Complaint or Truthteller’s posts.)
    ————————–

    rgb, that is post I wrote for NQ. It would be nice if you told our friends here that {May be you did upthread and I didn’t see it}. Anyway, thank you for putting it here.
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/16/pay-to-play-superdelegate-style/

    wbboei, you’re right. That Kennedy quote is a bribe or a threat depending on how you see it {I forgot to add a sentence to that effect when I wrote the post.}

  225. The CNN interviewer kept feeding JJJ questions to make him look honest and above-board. JJJ’s wife sat beside him to complete the portrait of a man falsely accused.

    It didn’t work.

  226. The question any good prosecutor would ask in these circumstances is what all is he trying to hide. Any defense lawyer would advise him to make a forceful unequivocal public denial (and never take the witness stand where he is subject to cross examination).

  227. Gee, Admin, when did you start moderating comments? Anyway, I am stuck. May be I’ll leave out the link in my response to rgb.
    ————————–
    rgb44hrc Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    and now the whole thing…

    There has been a lot of talk lately about Pay to Play. What with Blagojevich getting caught trying to sell Obama’s senate seat? What of Obama and his people perhaps trying to negotiate something for that seat (Read Fitzgerald’s Complaint or Truthteller’s posts.)
    ————————–

    rgb, that is post I wrote for NQ. It would be nice if you told our friends here that {May be you did upthread and I didn’t see it}. Anyway, thank you for putting it here.

    wbboei, you’re right. That Kennedy quote is a bribe or a threat depending on how you see it {I forgot to add a sentence to that effect when I wrote the post.}

  228. Jan–thank god it did not work. Let us hope the truth will out. My gut tells me he is dirty. In time we will find out whether that is true. Time heels all wounds–and wounds all heels.

  229. I have a friend who works at home as a broker for truck transport…the profit per load is small, $20-$70; one year ago, by working ~16 hours/day, he was making $70-100k/month..now essentially $0…very bad news for the economy
    ————————————-
    SHV: yes. I had drinks with a friend last night who told me Nordstroms where the well to do shop is down 30% this Christmas season. His girlfriend works there in sales, so it is hearsay but it does comport with what what you see if you walk through the store. In the months ahead we shall be testing the limits of Keynesian theory.

  230. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIA THE NEW YORK TIMES!!! OBAMA NEEDS BUSH AND HILLARY TO ANSWER THAT 3AM PHONE CALL!!

    Bush Prepares Crisis Briefings to Aid Obama

    By PETER BAKER
    Published: December 16, 2008

    WASHINGTON — The White House has prepared more than a dozen contingency plans to help guide President-elect Barack Obama if an international crisis erupts in the opening days of his administration, part of an elaborate operation devised to smooth the first transition of power since Sept. 11, 2001.

    Snip

    The contingency plans, he said, provide the new president a variety of possible responses to certain situations rather than a specific course of action. “It’s a menu of contingencies and potential options,”

    snip

    The real test for Mr. Obama will be projecting leadership.

    “For a president thinking about crisis management,” Mr. Carafano said, “the most important thing is not decision making, it’s public relations.”

  231. wbboei, that printing a whole slew of new money was mentioned to me by a colleague about couple of weeks ago. It is euphemistically called Quantitative easing (I think). I read an article that said when tried in Japan it didn’t work. Since I have stopped watching all news TV, are they talking about it, what is its impact, short term, long term?

  232. djia Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    ——————————————————————————————————

    So, the new president will have a crib sheet. How nice.

  233. correction: the job Hillary is “ascending” to. (I thought ascending but typed aceding which is not at all the case). I think this is a golden opportunity for her, the country and the world, given the general state of affairs described which we are all aware of.

  234. pm317 Says:

    December 17th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    Gee, Admin, when did you start moderating comments? Anyway, I am stuck. May be I’ll leave out the link in my response to rgb.
    ————————–
    rgb44hrc Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    and now the whole thing…

    There has been a lot of talk lately about Pay to Play. What with Blagojevich getting caught trying to sell Obama’s senate seat? What of Obama and his people perhaps trying to negotiate something for that seat (Read Fitzgerald’s Complaint or Truthteller’s posts.)
    ————————–

    rgb, that is post I wrote for NQ. It would be nice if you told our friends here that {May be you did upthread and I didn’t see it}.
    &&&&&&&&&

    The previous posting right above that says I snatched it from NQ, the first was an excerpt, the second was “the whole thing”. But I did overlook the author…and didn’t give them credit.

    Excellent piece, pm!

  235. wbboei said: This makes the job Hillary is aceding to all the more important. In terms of functionality it may be more important than the one they cheated her out of.
    ==============

    That would be a comforting narrative! Maybe Hillary can MAKE it more important. Hm, if the US economy can now only be cured by some change in the world economy….

  236. JanH Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
    I wonder if Harrison Ford is interested in a senate seat? I’ve had such a crush on the guy for years…lol…and since it seems as if we are going for the celebrity factor, I’d at least like to get someone I like! Or maybe Pierce Brosnan? (insert sarcasm here)
    ======================

    Glad to oblige. Remington Steele will be Pres, Laura Holt will be SOS. But I hope karma is a better scriptwriter….

  237. NMF

    When you have a minute (that will be in Neverland, so I might as well ask for 5-10 off the bat) will you give us (me) a short tutorial on what problem Judas is having with the FBI ?

    I sorta remember something abt it but have lost the details.

    ABM90, where is your elephant memory when we (I) need it!?

    😀

  238. Blago Set to Break His Silence

    December 17, 2008 11:01 AM
    On Wednesday morning, Blagojevich told reporters outside his Chicago house that he is eagerly anticipating the chance to state his case.

    “I can’t wait to begin to tell my side of the story and to address you guys and most importantly the people of Illinois, that’s who I’m dying to talk to,” said the governor.

    “There’s a time and place for everything. That day will soon be here and you might know more about that today and no later than tomorrow,” Blagojevich added.

    blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2008/12/blago-set-to-br.html

  239. Kennedy, in Syracuse, ignores questions

    She talked to the press, sort of. The Post-Standard transcribes:

    “I just wanted to say, as some of you may have heard, I’ve told Gov. Paterson that I’d be honored to be considered for the position of United States senator. I wanted to come upstate and meet with Mayor Driscoll and others to tell them about my experience and also to learn more about how Washington can help these communities,” Kennedy told reporters. “There’s a lot of good people, candidates, that the governor is considering. He’s laid out a process. I’m proud to be in that process.”

    “What do you say to New Yorkers who think you’re not qualified?” a newspaper reporter asked.

    She ignored the question and started to leave.

    “Are you ready for this, Ms. Kennedy? You’re not going to answer questions at all?” reporters yelled.

    “Where are you heading next?” a television reporter asked.

    “To the car,” Kennedy said.

    “What do you say to New Yorkers who think you’re not ready or qualified for this job?”

    “Have you ever been to Syracuse before?”

    “Hopefully I can come back and answer all your questions,” Kennedy said as reporters followed her outside.

    “What do you think your greatest qualification is to be senator?” a reporter persisted.

    “You’re seeking public office and you don’t want to answer questions from reporters, Ma’am? When can we expect you to answer questions?” another reporter asked as Kennedy got into the passenger seat of a black GMC Denali.

    She closed the vehicle’s door and it pulled away.

    There is, as you can read, some media pressure building up; Noam suggests she’s adopted the Palin media strategy, which didn’t work so well last time. Still time for her to let the air out of it by actually giving interviews, preferably to Politico, I think.

    CORRECTION: I’d initially linked a charter flight that seemed to be Kennedy’s; in fact, an aide says, she flew commercial.

  240. (My comments preceded with $$$)]

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/nyregion/18upstate.html?_r=1&hp

    In Appearance Upstate, Kennedy Says Little

    SYRACUSE — In a carefully controlled strategy reminiscent of the vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, aides to Caroline Kennedy interrupted her on Wednesday and whisked her away when she was asked what her qualifications are to be a United States senator.

    $$$ My lord, the Times is comparing Palin, an accomplished pulled-up-by-her-own-bootstraps type woman, to the silver spoon-fed CK. Barf

    In her first public appearance since letting it be known that wants to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Kennedy emerged from a closed-door meeting with Matthew J. Driscoll, the mayor of Syracuse, where about a dozen reporters were waiting.

    She offered a 30-second statement saying that she would respect the process undertaken by Gov. David A. Paterson to fill the vacancy.

    Then, as reporters asked why Ms. Kennedy was seeking the Senate seat and whether she was ready, she did not answer, then walked away, heading toward a waiting black sport-utility vehicle.

    When one reporter asked what she would tell New Yorkers who question whether she has the qualifications for the job, Ms. Kennedy, 51, started to respond. But then an aide stopped her from saying more, and led her to the waiting vehicle.

    “Hopefully I can come back and answer all those questions,” she called out as she got into the S.U.V.

    $$$ Yeah. That would be schweeeet.

    It was the first stop in an orchestrated tour of upstate New York. Ms. Kennedy has plans to visit with officials in Rochester and, possibly, Buffalo, a first stab at getting skeptical upstate voters used to the idea of being represented in Washington by yet another down-stater.

    The area has already expressed wariness of her, with some officials and newspapers questioning her abilities.

    $$$ Good for them. “Get outta here, ya carpet bagger”.
    The tour has been kept somewhat secretive, reflecting, in part, the delicacy of the situation. No schedule was given, though details percolated rapidly through political circles in New York. An aide accompanying her said she was headed to Rochester after Syracuse, but declined to say where.

    Technically, there is no seat open, since the current holder, Senator Clinton, has not yet been confirmed to be secretary of state. And there can be no true campaign, since there is no true election: the only vote that counts if that of Governor Paterson.

    In her brief statement, Ms. Kennedy said: “As some of you may have heard, I told Governor Paterson I’d be honored to be considered for the position of United States senator. There’s a lot of good people in this community that the governor is considering. He’s laid out a process and I’m proud to be part of that process.”

    $$$ The “process” in public is what we see, who gets the job depends on the backroom process which is completely smoke-filled (nowadays, metaphorically, unless Obama is feeling tense).

    As the S.U.V. pulled out of downtown Syracuse, she gave a wave and a smile to the disappointed reporters who had gathered.

  241. The previous posting right above that says I snatched it from NQ, the first was an excerpt, the second was “the whole thing”. But I did overlook the author…and didn’t give them credit.

    Excellent piece, pm!
    ——————–

    No problem, rgb. Thanks for sharing it. I have another Obama piece coming up today. I am sure you all agree with what I say.

  242. wbboei, that printing a whole slew of new money was mentioned to me by a colleague about couple of weeks ago. It is euphemistically called Quantitative easing (I think). I read an article that said when tried in Japan it didn’t work. Since I have stopped watching all news TV, are they talking about it, what is its impact, short term, long term?
    —————————————–
    pm 317: Big media is a tower of babble on this stuff. Their experts lose me at the first turn. Maybe we should give the financial desk to Campbell Brown so she could dumb it down for us, so we would no it is all bullshit. Then even I could understand it–maybe.

    What I do know is the former Japanese Minister of Finance told someone who knows someone I know that they did try it and it did not work. The way he put it however was more chilling: he said it is like tying to fly straight up a mountain and once you rise over the mountain top and look down range all you see looking ahead downrange to the horizon is the Himalayas.

    In them thar parts they’ve got the dali lama. A good friend of mine swears by him, so I am half tempted to join. In our part of the world we have the msm proclaimed Messiah. I have it on good authority that he will have the entire problem resolved by midnight January 21. We should expect nothing less from a messiah.

  243. SOCKS MAKES THE NY TIMES!

    (It looks like our little furry pal has cancer, according to this Times piece, mentioned at the end. That’s how some of my kitties died…)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/us/politics/17currie.html?ref=politics

    Obama Team Has Forged Another Link With Clintons

    WASHINGTON — It’s official. The old Clinton gang really is back together again. Answering the phones these days for the co-chairman of President-elect Barack Obama’s transition, John D. Podesta, is none other than Betty Currie.

    Emerging from retirement in southern Maryland to volunteer at Obama headquarters, Ms. Currie was the personal secretary to President Bill Clinton, who became caught up in an independent counsel investigation into his trysts with the White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Since leaving the White House, Ms. Currie, 69, has shied from publicity and kept a low profile in Hollywood, Md., where she lives with her husband, Bob, and Socks, the presidential cat, which she took with her after Mr. Clinton left office.

    (snip)

    Ms. Currie has kept in touch with the Clintons and donated $750 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination this year. When she ran into Mrs. Clinton last spring, she told a writer from Southern Maryland Newspapers, Mrs. Clinton asked about Socks.

    U.S. News & World Report has reported that Socks, now 19, has cancer.
    &&&&

    Best Wishes, Socks, and Betty (the Other BC).

  244. Turndown/JanH

    I personally want Clint Eastwood. He gave a one hour interview late last week to Fresh Air and said the reason he wanted to be mayor, and ran, and won, (and was loved by the town, btw)
    was because he really wanted to give something back to his community and knew he could do it well.

    No false modesty, no lies, no BS.

    Just what we need in Illinois, NY state and DC and elsewhere.

  245. It looks as if Caroline needs some crib sheets/cue cards of her own. She can’t answer the simple question about being qualified or not?

    If she can’t stand the heat….she should get out of the kitchen!

  246. Blagojevich was bookie, says federal informant

    [watch video at the article sight]

    Wednesday, December 17, 2008 | 8:58 AM
    By Chuck Goudie

    The ABC7 I-Team has learned that an attorney who went undercover for the FBI in the late 1980’s says he told federal authorities years ago about wrongdoing by Blagojevich.

    His name is Robert Cooley.

    Cooley was a criminal defense lawyer in Chicago in the late 1980’s who became one of the most potent witnesses against Chicago corruption, testifying for federal prosecutors in cases that resulted in dozens of convictions.

    Cooley says that before Rod Blagojevich got into politics he was a bookmaker on the North Side who regularly paid the Chicago mob to operate.

    SNIP

    “When I was working with government wearing wire, I reported, I observed Rod, the present governor running a gambling operation out in the western suburbs. He was paying street tax to the mob out there,” said Robert Cooley, federal informant.

    On a web-based interview show last week, Cooley said he reported to federal authorities nearly two decades ago that Rod Blagojevich had been operating an illegal sports gambling business.

    Robert Cooley is a former Chicago police officer-turned mob lawyer-turned federal informant.

    SNIP

    During Operation Gambat in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, Cooley’s undercover work and testimony put away 24 crooked politicians, judges, lawyers and cops.

    Several years ago, when Mr. Blagojevich was running for re-election, Cooley provided the same information to the ABC7 I-Team. Because Cooley did not want to be identified at the time and the governor denied it, ABC7 did not report the story.

    SNIP

    He told ABC7 that Mr. Blagojevich regularly paid a so-called street tax to Robert “Bobby the Boxer” Abbinanti, a convicted outfit gambling collector. In the early 1980’s, Abbinanti was working for convicted West Side mob boss Marco D’amico. Bookies pay street taxes to the crime syndicate in exchange for being allowed to operate such a racket.

    “I predicted five years ago when he ran the first time that he was a hands on person who would be selling every position in the state of Illinois and that it exactly what happened,” said Cooley.

    SNIP

    “The biggest problem you have now and reason for what is happening is that the people in power have money and ability to silence the media so it will never be reported and as long as you have that going on, you will never stop it,” Cooley.

    A spokesman for Governor Blagojevich said on Tuesday evening that he cannot comment on Cooley, the bookmaking allegation or the mob payoffs.

    He referred us to the governor’s criminal defense lawyer Ed Genson. Mr. Genson says he is too busy right now to talk.

    A spokesman for the United States attorney in Chicago said that his office will have no comment.

    abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6559104

  247. I heard that Clint interview, about how he really didn’t buy into Dirty Harry’s take on society, that Callahan was simply a role he played. about how Paul Newman didn’t want that role because he thought it promoted a right wing point of view, but Clint thought movies should be about promoting different points of view, including those that you may not agree with.

    Clint’s movies are great, and as a person, I find a lot to respect. Agreed, a no BS type of guy.

  248. Mystery solved?

    For those wondering about:

    rgb44hrc Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I see this is associated with posting containing links, but not those without links.

  249. jan that was my mistake when i copied and pasted my “moderated” message to repost i forgot to not copy that part LOL

  250. The headline says it all:

    Obama team defends Emanuel in Blagojevich probe

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A senior adviser to President-elect Barack Obama defended chief of staff Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday for his contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s office about filling Obama’s Senate seat.

    Blagojevich has been charged with plotting to sell Obama’s Senate seat in a nakedly corrupt act and the Obama presidential transition team has been working to distance Obama and his inner circle from the scandal-tarred governor.

    But the Chicago Sun-Times reported on Wednesday that Emanuel had privately urged Blagojevich’s administration to appoint Obama confidant Valerie Jarrett to the Senate seat that Obama vacated when he was elected president November 4.

    Emanuel had asked the appointment be made by a certain deadline, the newspaper said.

    Emanuel is a Democratic member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Illinois chosen by Obama to be his White House chief of staff.

    Obama senior adviser David Axelrod offered a strong defense of Emanuel on MSNBC a day after Obama refused to answer a question about the Blagojevich case at a Chicago news conference because the U.S. attorney has the case under investigation.

    “I’ve known Rahm … for a very long time. I’ve worked with him closely. He is someone who I think has enormous integrity and unparalleled skill. And I think we’re lucky to have him,” Axelrod said. “I have no concerns about Rahm. He is an enormous asset to us and will be an enormous asset to the country, as he has been in the Congress.”

    The Blagojevich case has been an unwelcome distraction for Obama at a time when he is focused on plans aimed at rebuilding the U.S. economy when he takes power on January 20.

    Last week Obama said details would be released in a few days about the extent of contacts between his team and Blagojevich’s office, but on Monday he said he would delay the release until Christmas week at the request of the federal prosecutors.

    He said he had no contact with Blagojevich about the Senate seat and that any discussions between the two sides by his team had not been inappropriate.

    Discussing the Senate seat would not be illegal. But what has remained unclear is whether Emanuel or Jarrett, who removed herself from consideration for being appointed to the Senate seat, were aware that Blagojevich was seeking a financial reward from whoever was picked.

    Axelrod said the Obama team was eager to release its report.

    “When you see it, it will corroborate what the president-elect has said, which is that he never spoke with the governor or any of his aides about this and that. There were no inappropriate discussions between members of his staff and the governor’s office in this manner. And that, I think, will be very clear,” he said.

  251. wbboei,

    To stir the pot, pour in more water?
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    Turndown: The trick is to connect the dots, accurately.

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