The Jar Jar Binks Of American Politics

We truly regret the Dimocrats did not get a 60 vote majority in the U.S. Senate on November 4. Our regret is genuine.

Our regret stems not only from the re-election of the utterly distasteful Republican Saxby Chambliss. It is this week’s Saxby Chambliss victory which denies the Dimocrats in the Senate a 60 vote majority. Chambliss, we recall, originally won his Senate race in Georgia by sliming paraplegic war hero Max Cleland as a terrorist sympathizer.

No, our regret stems largely from our sense that now the cowardly Dimocratic leadership will avail themselves of the very remote possibility of a Republican filibuster in the Senate as an excuse to not do what they promised to do but don’t want to do in the first place.

And of course the national Dimocratics have as their leader the Chicago master of excuses.

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Obama, before the November 4 election, awarded himself a pompous facsimile of the presidential seal. Likewise post election, Obama has elevated the usual transition staff into an operation worthy of the earlier pompous and deceptive presidential seal facsimile. The recent pomposity is much like the kind of pomposity displayed throughout his short, mostly low level, career – big speeches with flowery words while voting “present” or not voting at all. Words, not actions. Excuses, not deeds. 

Obama proclaims himself as THE leader when there is adulation to be had, but passes the buck when there is responsibility to be exercised. 

Obama wants both – no responsibility, only adulation – as is his history.  Even the dim are beginning to perceive the Obama traits we have documented for well over a year. The latest “malcontent” is Representative Barney Frank.

Democrats are growing impatient with President-elect Barack Obama’s refusal to inject himself in the major economic crises confronting the country.

Obama has sidestepped some policy questions by saying there is only one president at a time. But the dodge is wearing thin.

“He’s going to have to be more assertive than he’s been,” House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., told consumer advocates Thursday.

Frank, who has been dealing with both the bailout of the financial industry and a proposed rescue of Detroit automakers, said Obama needs to play a more significant role on economic issues.

“At a time of great crisis with mortgage foreclosures and autos, he says we only have one president at a time,” Frank said. “I’m afraid that overstates the number of presidents we have. He’s got to remedy that situation.”

It is humorous to observe Barack Obama, the Jar-Jar Binks of American politics, parade himself in imagined ermine cape and oversized sceptre, while dodging any work that might lower his “popularity”.

Obama has maintained one of the most public images of any president-elect. He has held half a dozen press conferences, where he has entertained question after question about the economy, the mortgage crisis, and the flailing auto industry. He called for passage of extended unemployment benefits—which has passed—and even a stimulus package if possible before Jan. 20. But he has stayed away from trying to dictate remedies for the toughest problems Congress is confronting: the auto industry’s troubles and how to spend the $700 billion bailout. [snip]

Earlier this week, Obama was asked whether he worried that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson might begin spending the next installment of the money before he assumes the presidency. Obama demurred.

“Until Secretary Paulson indicates publicly that he’s drawing down the second tranche, the second half of the TARP money, it would be speculation on my part to suggest that that money’s going to be used up,” he told reporters at a Chicago news conference Wednesday.

Obama did stress that a significant component of the fund should be used to reduce the number of foreclosures. But he did not specify a particular remedy.

He also declined to take a stand in a debate over the source of money for an auto loan package. The dispute has divided Democrats and hindered progress on assistance for the industry. At issue is whether to take money from the $700 billion designated for the financial sector or to take it from a previously approved loan aimed at manufacturing more energy efficient cars.

“I think it’s premature to get into that issue,” Obama said at the conference.

It’s the blind leading the blind (no offense to the visually impaired or disabled).

Democrats who mock George W. as an utter failure gloss over the fact that this most incompetent of presidents, at the most lame-duck stage of his presidency, still managed to get the Democratic congress to pass a series of bailouts totalling at least a trillion dollars and still manages to lead them by the nose.

If it wasn’t so important and so sad, it would almost be funny. Our leaders are flummoxed.

“The Obama team has to step up,” Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and one of the lead negotiators, said Nov. 21 in Hartford, Conn. “In the minds of the people, this is the Obama administration. I don’t think we can wait until January 20.”

Two days later, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, a point man in helping his state’s main industry, called on Obama to help resolve the dispute over money for the auto loan package.

“It would be very helpful if the president-elect would become more involved in resolving the issue over the source of the funds,” he said. “I want him to offer his assistance. He is a person who can really bring people together.”

“How rude!” as Jar Jar would say.

More rudeness:

Frank, shrewd and quick-witted, also poked fun at Obama’s calls for a “post-partisan” governing environment in Washington. Frank predicted that regulatory legislation aimed at preventing abuses related to subprime mortgages and credit cards stood a much better chance next year, when Democrats have greater majorities in the House and Senate.

“It is a grave mistake to assume that parties are irrelevant to this process,” he said. “My one difference with the president-elect, about whom I am very enthusiastic, is when he talks about being post-partisan.

“Having lived with this very right wing Republican group that runs the House most of the time, the notion of trying to deal with them as if we could be post-partisan gives me post-partisan depression,” Frank said.

Since April 2007 we have tried to educate our fellow citizens as to the nature of the Chicago Jar Jar. Our efforts have been condemned in the Hopium dens as rude at the very least. Now, things we wrote about going all the way back to 2007, are echoed (with some distortion) by former Hopium addicts. The latest confessed “dupe” is none other than William Greider from his perch at The Nation magazine.

A year ago, when Barack Obama said it was time to turn the page, his campaign declaration seemed to promise a fresh start for Washington. I, for one, failed to foresee Obama would turn the page backward. The president-elect’s lineup for key governing positions has opted for continuity, not change. Virtually all of his leading appointments are restoring the Clinton presidency, only without Mr. Bill. In some important ways, Obama’s selections seem designed to sustain the failing policies of George W. Bush.

This is not the last word and things are changing rapidly. But Obama’s choices have begun to define him. His victory, it appears, was a triumph for the cautious center-right politics that has described the Democratic party for several decades. Those of us who expected more were duped, not so much by Obama but by our own wishful thinking.

The self-confessed “dupes” continue to lecture those of us who have tracked and continue to track Obama’s flim-flams and circus antics. They, unlike us, never asked “Change – to what?”  Indeed, even as they confess themselves “dupes” they persevere in absolving Obama of his myriad deceptions.  Already the Obama broken promises to his acolytes are adding up. 

 In a Republic, candidates must be vetted, leaders must be held to account. If there is no vetting, no accountability, power is given to the unworthy and destructive forces.

The Hopium addled ignored many warnings about Obama. Eventually however, the “dupes” will quote these Pink Pages as prophetic scripture and bemoan what they have done to our Republic.

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  1. Excellent, Admin!

    And this, especially, is so sad yet so true. 🙁

    ‘Eventually however, the “dupes” will quote these Pink Pages as prophetic scripture and bemoan what they have done to our Republic.’

  2. Admin, Basil9

    I agree. However, I take it one step further, and ask myself how much will change from the GWB administration.

  3. However, the dupes will continue to be duped, and portray an administration that glows like O did during the Presidency.

    It will be History that tells us where this really stood, and that might be too late to help the Republic. After all the majority of the voters felt givng GWB two terms could do no harm. Boy were they wrong.

  4. http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/081205/business_us_usa_economy_jobs.html?.v=1

    Employers axed payrolls by a shocking 533,000 in November for the weakest performance in 34 years, government data on Friday showed, as the recession inflicted a mounting toll on the U.S. labor market.

    The Labor Department said the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent last month in the highest reading since 1993, compared with 6.5 percent in October, after widespread losses across the country’s major industry sectors.

    November’s job losses were the steepest since December 1974, when 602,000 jobs were shed, and were much worse than forecast by analysts polled by Reuters who had predicted a reduction of 340,000 jobs.

    In addition, October’s job losses were revised to show a cut of 320,000, previously reported as a 240,000 loss, while September’s losses were revised to a loss of 403,000 from down 284,00.

    That meant 199,000 more jobs were lost in September and October than previously thought and the total reduction in U.S. nonfarm payrolls for last three months was 1.256 million, with almost 2 million shed in the year so far.

  5. Hypocrite of the Week: Campbell Brown, Part 2
    By Duane Wells
    12/05/2008

    I’m beginning to feel a bit of déjà vu as of late.

    For the second time in recent weeks, I have felt compelled to call out a repeat offender in this column, and for the second time the culprit is a journalist that I respect. This week’s return hypocrite is CNN’s Campbell Brown, who on Tuesday took Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania to task during her ‘No Bias, No Bull’ commentary for hot mic remarks she deemed to be sexist.

    It seems odd given the general level of hypocrisy floating around in the world today, that in a 52-week period the same name would come up twice in this forum, but when the ‘bull’ hits the fan with such ferocious intensity as seen this week it cannot be ignored and so Campbell Brown joins the short list of hypocrites doing double duty in this year’s round up. And here’s why.

    On Tuesday, Gov. Ed Rendell was unwittingly caught on a live mic at the National Governors Conference giving his opinion of President-elect Obama’s choice of Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano to be his nominee to head the Homeland Security Department. Of Napolitano, Gov. Rendell said:

    “Janet’s perfect for that job. Because for that job, you have to have no life. Janet has no family. Perfect. She can devote, literally, 19-20 hours a day to it.”

    Well that got Ms. Brown, all riled up with perhaps good reason.

    I’m not a woman, so I don’t necessarily read sexism into Gov. Rendell’s comment. In fact, what I actually read into the comment is that Rendell is of the opinion that whoever takes the job of heading Homeland Security, whether that person be a man or woman, he or she has to be willing to be completely and utterly devoted to it.

    Our lady of CNN, Miss Campbell Brown was clearly not of the same opinion however.

    So just to reiterate, from Ed Rendell’s mostly innocuous assessment of Janet Napolitano’s readiness to be Secretary of Homeland Security, the snarky Ms. Brown deciphered not one, but three radically and blatantly sexist assaults on the Arizona governor and the status of women in the contemporary workplace. I quote again:

    1. If a man had been Obama’s choice for the job, would having a family or not having a family ever even have been an issue? Would it have ever prompted a comment? Probably not. We all know the assumption tends to be that with a man, there is almost always a wife in the wings managing those family concerns.

    2. As a woman, hearing this, it is hard not to wonder if we are counted out for certain jobs, certain opportunities, because we do have a family or because we are in our child-bearing years. Are we? It is a fair question.

    3. If you are a childless, single woman with suspicions that you get stuck working holidays, weekends and the more burdensome shifts more often than your colleagues with families, are those suspicions well-founded? Probably so. Is there an assumption that if you’re family-free then you have no life? By some, yes.

    Even if I were to allow La Campbell’s diatribe to go unchallenged because as I mentioned above, I recognize that sexism like racism can often times best be perceived by those who are most significantly affected by it, I could not overlook the fact that Ms. Brown’s rationale in this instance seems to contradict her earlier criticism of Gov. Sarah Palin to John McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds during the general election campaign.

    Discussing Gov. Sarah Palin’s decision to join the 2008 GOP ticket for the White House, Brown clearly suggested concerns about Palin’s career choices as well as her readiness to lead that were squarely founded on the traditional role of mothers and what is expected of them. Even more disconcertingly, Brown asked the kinds of questions and pressed the kinds of issues that would rarely be asked about a man in the same position.

    Below is an excerpt from that interview:

    CAMPBELL BROWN: We have Tucker Bounds joining us who is a spokesman for the McCain campaign. We want to have an opportunity to talk to him a little bit about this.

    And, Tucker, you there?

    TUCKER BOUNDS: Yeah, Campbell. Can you hear me?

    BROWN: Good. Yeah. We got you in the chair. I’m glad you’re with us. Thanks so much for taking time and joining us tonight. I want to begin by asking, you know, what we’ve been discussing before you sat in the chair, Gov. Palin sharing a difficult personal story today, the news her unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant. She plans to have the baby, to marry the father. Explain to us when John McCain first learned about this.

    BOUNDS: He learned about it during the vetting process before his selection. He did not consider it a disqualifier. Gov. Palin has a long record of reforming Alaska, taking on the establishment for 13 years. She started out as a civic activist in the PTA, went to the city counsel, on to the mayor of her small town, took on big oil in the oil and gas commission in Alaska then to the governor’s office where she’s made serious bipartisan reforms. That’s the reason she was selected. Certainly her personal family matters never disqualified her from serving public office, serving a higher office in a cause greater than herself. That’s John McCain’s message. She fits it perfectly and we’re happy to have her.

    BROWN: Tucker, though, this obviously putting this young woman, Bristol Palin, smack in the media spotlight at what’s already got to be a very challenging time in her life, I mean, how do you respond to people who wonder why her mother would have subjected her to this kind of scrutiny by accepting this high-profile position?

    BOUNDS: I think Gov. Palin understands that these are serious times. We have serious challenges and it’s time to shake up Washington. It was the reason she was happy to take John McCain’s invitation to go to Washington, make the changes that Americans needs and Americans depend on. She’s an expert on energy. She understands we need an all of the above energy approach that includes the alternatives and the renewable fuels. This is an important decision. I think it’s dangerous to confuse her civic decision to get involved and make a difference in the country with a family matter —

    BROWN: I understand that. I recognize that. In an ideal world, it would be private. You know, this is a presidential campaign. Nothing is private. The world is watching. And if we, you know, as much as everyone might want to give this young woman her privacy, you know that’s not going to happen. And so you do risk putting her through an incredibly difficult process by accepting this job if you’re her mother. You can’t deny that, right?

    BOUNDS: The Palin family made clear in their statement that they were hoping and continue to hope that this will be a private family matter. That was their intention from the very beginning. Media inquiries and attention are going to happen in the campaign. They understand that. It’s important for us as we have a conversation with voters of how we can change Washington, how we can move forward and take on the big challenges that Americans expect of their public officials that we keep a private matter private among their family. Certainly all of us, certainly the members of the media would expect that from Americans. That’s the way we’re proceeding.

    Funny how it sounds like Brown is criticizing Palin’s ability to simultaneously lead and be a good mother does it not? Had John Edwards had been successful in his bid to win the Democratic presidential nomination,one wonders if Brown would have questioned one of his spokespersons so vigorously about his decision to press on with his campaign as his wife Elizabeth battled cancer and he faced the possiblility, however slight, of raising two small children in the White House as a single dad. ,My guess is that it wouldn’t have happened.

    Here’s the point. Either gender is an issue or it isn’t. There is no gray area, despite the fact Brown seems to be attempting to create one by taking such drastically different views on the same essential point. On the one hand, Brown derides Gov. Rendell for allegedly intimating that not having a family makes Gov. Janet Napolitano a better candidate for a high-ranking political appointment, and on the other she criticizes Gov. Sarah Palin for having a family and voluntarily seeking elected office.

    Which is it?

    Personally, I think that in both instances, each woman’s choice must be respected because at the end of the day they lie down with themselves and wake up to their own realities. Whether or not a woman can have a family and execute a high pressure job as successfully as a man is a moot point because so many women of significant stature have already done so. Ask Margaret Thatcher or better yet ask soon-to-be first lady, Michelle Obama. Would it were that I could be certain CNN’s Campbell Brown would agree with me.

    So because she seems to have dueling definitions of sexism depending on the day and the subject, Campbell Brown is once again the hypocrite of the week.

    http://www.gaywired.com/article.cfm?id=21087&section=67

  6. The issue here is that the DNC was able to use women to tear down other women and also use women resources against women in this campaign cycle.

    Now you are seeing men start to fight back and call out women for being the biggest HYPOCRITS on the planet when they claim sexism and misogyny on men.

    In other words, “Clean Your Own House Before You Tell Me What’s Wrong With Mine” and “Do we practice what we preach.”

  7. Women will reap the reward (Or nonrewards) of their betrayal of women.

    I was in a small store yesterday, with two young sales ladies, one of which I knew slightly. She knew I had been a strong HRC supporters, so she asked how I felt about the political situation. That released in me a tirad of what I actually thought. Both of the young ladies looked at me and grinned. The one I knew looked at the other and said, that is what I like about her, she tells it like it is. The other young lady looked at me and said, I agree with you totally.

    I feel, do to my age and experience, after what has happened, I will not sugar coat my feelings about the Dem party or the Election any more. I tell everyone, I will not get over it, and I am sadly disappointed in how women, especially the women’s groups did not support their own.

    This weekend in my state there will be a Dem election for President for their women’s group. I will not attend. Everytime they forget how I feel, and they call or ask me they hear the same. I am sadly disppointed in your behavior in this campaign and will not support your group, because you did not support women.

  8. jbstonesfan Says:

    December 5th, 2008 at 10:48 am
    Campbell Brown is a right wing tool who despises the Clintons.
    ——————————————
    I guess I see it just a little differently–but I could be wrong. There is no question the little creep despises the Clintons. It’s the right wing tool part I am unsure of. If there were some hard evidence of that then I am quite sure I could be persuaded.

    In the meantime, I intend to proceed on the assumption that she is a robotoic tool of cnn corporate interests who see economic value in destroying the Clintons. In my book, that makes her all the more despicable.

    If you took Campbell Brown and removed the rum ridden debutramp image, and all the hypocracy and sexism she put out in the campaign, I believe what you would be left with that gory creature out of Tales of the Crypt.

    She is part of that pseudo intellectual class of talking heads who want to cut the American People out of the decision making process and impose their prepackaged policy solutions on us.

    Thomas Sowell wrote a book about these kinds of people. It is called The Vision of The Annointed. His conclusion was that they do incalculable harm to our country, and are not worth listening to. I try to discipline myself accordingly.

  9. ((NMF)) – good going! Keep at it! We’ve all got to do all we can to keep the spotlight on the insidious evils of misogyny!

  10. Sorry, I never post long, but got this from a Friend, and it goes even deeper into the BC and the Contstitutional Crisis we might be facing.

    12/01/2008
    Obama Fomenting A Constitutional Crisis: Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications Of Controversy
    By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin

    Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.

    According to the Constitution, a president must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Mr. Obama’s critics have failed to force him legally to produce his original birth certificate, and Mr. Obama has resisted any attempt to make him do so. Currently, only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to Mr. Obama’s original records.

    Some of Mr. Obama’s critics have said he was born in Kenya and have claimed he is a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, or even a British subject.

    Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.

    “Let’s assume he wasn’t born in the U.S.,” Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin. “What’s the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can’t make him president. So what’s the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he’s aware he’s not a citizen, then it’s a perjured oath.”

    Any appointments made by an ineligible president would have to be recalled, and their decisions would be invalidated.

    “He may have nominated people to different positions; he may have nominated people to the judicial branch, who may have been confirmed, they may have gone out on executive duty and done various things,” said Mr. Vieira. “The people that he’s put into the judicial branch may have decided cases, and all of that needs to be unzipped.”

    Mr. Vieira said Obama supporters should be the ones concerned about the case, because Mr. Obama’s platform would be discredited it he were forced to step down from the presidency later due to his ineligibility, were it to be discovered.

    “Let’s say we go a year into this process, and it all turns out to be a flim-flam,” said Mr. Vieira. “What’s the nation’s reaction to that? What’s going to be the reaction in the next U.S. election? God knows. It has almost revolutionary consequences, if you think about it.”

    Mr. Vieira said Mr. Obama’s continued silence and avoidance in the release of his birth certificate is an ethical issue because of the dire consequences that could be caused by a possible constitutional crisis.

    “If he were my client and this question came up in civil litigation, if there was some reason that his birth status was relevant and the other side wanted him to produce the thing and he said ‘no,’ I would tell him, ‘you have about 15 minutes to produce it or sign the papers necessary to produce the document, or I’m resigning as your attorney,” said Mr. Vieira. “I don’t think any ethical attorney would go ahead on the basis that his client could produce an objective document in civil litigation [and refused to do so].”

    Further, Mr. Vieira cited a fraud ruling in a 1977 case called U.S. v. Prudden, which he feels applies in this case.

    “Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading,” the ruling reads. “We cannot condone this shocking conduct … If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately.”

    Mr. Vieira said such an ethical question of representing a client who refused to produce such a basic document is important, even in a small civil case. The current question is concerning the man who potentially could have his finger next to the nuclear button.

    “[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there,” said Mr. Vieira. “What if it isn’t? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn’t there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn’t there? Does the CIA know that it isn’t there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?”

    Mr. Vieira explained all laws have to be submitted to the president. In the event that there is no valid president, then no laws passed by Congress in that administration would be legally null and void. Because of that, this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.

    “If you don’t produce it, you think it’s going to go away,” he said. “There are all these cases challenging Mr. Obama, and some challenging secretaries of state, and they run into this doctrine called standing.”

    Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.

    “Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ ”

    Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.

    Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.

    “I can’t believe I’m the only lawyer who would think of this,” said Mr. Vieira. “I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, ‘yes, there it is.’ And therefore they’re caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying ‘no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail’ then that’s the end of the Obama administration’s legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it’s not there, then that’s really the end of the administration’s legitimacy.”

    Several court cases in the birth certificate controversy are waiting admission to the Supreme Court.

    A gathering of judges will meet on Dec. 5 to decide whether or not to hear a case from New Jersey, and a decision is still pending on a case from a lawyer in Pennsylvania. Should four of the judges vote to hear the case in the Dec. 5 meeting, then it will be scheduled for hearings. Court cases from Connecticut and New York have also applied for hearings at the U.S. Supreme Court.

    John P. Connolly can be reached at jconnolly@thebulletin.us

  11. Admin> brilliant article.

    2 million jobs lost since the first of this year.

    It was so damned obvious where the policies of both parties would eventually lead.

    The difference between the free trade that Obama and Bush favor vs the fair trade Hillary talked about is millions of jobs.

    The only question is my mind is whether Obama does more damage to our country through comission or omission.

    Ten years ago I was lobbying on Capitol Hill as a favor to a congressional friend of mine on a bill that touched on free trade only minimally. The annointed class would have nothing to do with it.

    As Obama’s spiritual advisor would say those chickens too have come home to roost. Only the elites usually manage to escape the guillotine. It is the average people who suffer, as they and their families are suffering now with these cuts.

    Lori Wallock is one of the most brilliant lawyers I know–but I do not know her personally. I wish I did. When she gets in these discussions with the shills of global capitalists, they talk theory, she talks impacts, and they are made to look like the fools they truly are. But we are the victims of their folly and profiteering.

  12. That was from the Philidelphia Family Newspaper. If I could link it directly I would, but wanted to get it into the blog. Admin is you want to replace this with a direct link, please feel free to do so.

  13. Has anyone heard anything about Donofrio’s case today? There are folks doing a sitin on the steps of the supreme court today.

  14. We all might want to read Dr. Kate’s essay “Stand by Me” (TexasDarlin) regarding the Supreme Court’s possible decisions on eligibility issue and the need to defend the constitution

  15. news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/supreme-court-not-considering-obamas-birth-certificate-case/

    A good clarification on what the SCOTUS is doing today. They are disbelivers, but the intersting thing is the vote at the end of the article. If 51% of the people (current vote) say they don’t believe you have a BC, that should speak to the SCOTUS.

    I get a kick out of the fact that they swear this issue has been put to rest. I am still waiting for the Official on a Court House steps to swear to the validity of the document in front of cameras. All we have right now is fact check and Obermann

  16. Bad Employment Numbers Drive the Dollar Up
    Written by John Jagerson News Feed

    After some initial volatility the Non Farms Payroll and Employment report form the BLS pushed the dollar back above the week’s trading range. The Jobs report was the most negative we have seen in more than a decade and does not bode well for the US economy.

    There may be some confusion about why a bad jobs report would affect the USD in a “positive” way but it has to do with uncertainty. The report is telling us that unemployment is at 6.8% (a record since 1993) and that the economy lost 350,000 jobs in November, which is one of the worst losses of all time. That increases uncertainty for the US and global economy. Uncertainty is good for the US dollar because investors will want to use it to protect thier assets during this market disruption.

    Traders use the US dollar to protect their assets by leaving developing economy and growth investments and pushing into safer, “risk free”, assets like US government bonds. Yields on the 10 year note are proving my point by hitting new record lows today of 2.56%.

    http://www.learningmarkets.com/index.php/200812051011/News-Feed/News-Feed/bad-employment-numbers-drive-the-dollar-up.html

  17. Seems like the man who campaigned for change has no idea how to accomplish anything he campaigned on. His website is asking people to submit ideas on how to fix the healthcare system and ways to provide healthcare to the uninsured. Dems in congress are getting impatient already and he has not taken office yet. Looks like buyers remorse is setting in faster than usual for the Chosen One.

  18. The Bright Side To The Gloomy Economic Crisis
    01 December 2008

    A recession is most commonly synonymous with economic downturns, workforce layoffs, credit crunch and a lot of pessimism. The latter of which can at times be exaggerated. In reference, historically speaking some of the most prosperous organizations have been established during economic downturns.

    The opportunities during times like these are rare and potentially lucrative, just look back at the success of Intel (1968), McDonald’s (1940), Caterpillar (1925) and Walt Disney (1923), all of which had been founded at times of adversity and economic slowdown. In fact, 60% of the current 30 Dow Jones industrial index companies were launched during economic downturns, according to research by Reference Capital Management.

    The advantages of managing a startup during a recession can be profoundly beneficial if applied effectively, some are:

    Overheads: most operational expenses tend to decrease during economic slowdowns, for obvious reasons, which can be significantly beneficial to startups as the cost of equipment, raw materials, real estate and even manpower is reduced across the board. Salaries are lower as new recruits are merely focused on maintaining a stable career without bonus demands or additional perks. It may even be wiser to consider reducing existing salaries rather than laying-off staff. In the advent of reduced cash flow, this might be a time for small & medium enterprises to consider value-added barter deals with their vendors and strategic partners. These kinds of win-win alliances can help propel a startup’s chances of success as the outflow of cash is minimized.

    Human Capital & Recruitment: it is easier to recruit high performers, who would be willing to join at lower salaries and be part of an emerging success story. With the increasing rate of unemployment it enables business owners retain key personnel who are content with staying and strengthening their employment tenure/ career. Now may be a battle for survival, but in two years time, companies will battle for talent.

    Mobile Operations: The effective implementation of mobile working conditions can be a lucrative proposition both for your company and staff. It would enable your workforce to reduce commuting time, be more productive during work hours and even save on real estate overheads as office space will be less utilized.

    Competition: the most prominent victims of an economic downturn are those companies without distinct positioning and a lack of competitive edge. The “me-too” companies with inferior products and weak business models are the most highly affected and hence their survival rate is of a deteriorating proportion. It clears the marketplace of startups that add no value, or fail to directly serve the consumer’s need. During times like these it is imperative to reflect, strategically plan the direction of your business and optimize operational efficiency to distinctly re-position your brand and gain market share.

    Governments in the region have been quite proactive at taking the necessary steps to contain the situation, maintain liquidity in the market and encourage widespread cooperation. Their encouragement of grooming a new generation of “business pioneers/ creators” has been quite profound over the last few years, predominantly in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. SMEs can play a vital role in alleviating the region’s 15% unemployment rate and aid in creating jobs for the four million young graduates who enter the market every year. Being an SME allows you to contribute to the economy’s overall prosperity and benefit from the opportunities at hand.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Bright+Side+To+The+Gloomy+Economic+Crisis&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIH_en

  19. Global Insight economists hit their stride
    Bethune and Gault win second award as uncertainty mounts
    By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
    Last update: 1:57 p.m. EST Nov. 10, 2008WASHINGTON

    (MarketWatch) — Forecasting the economy right now is particularly tricky because so much is unknown, especially the state of the credit markets.

    Economists at IHS Global Insight seem to have hit their stride in recent months, however, winning the MarketWatch Forecaster of the Month award for October after coming in second in September.

    “We’ve found out in the past few months that the economy was worse than we thought,” said Nigel Gault, U.S. economist for IHS Global Insight. He and his colleague, Brian Bethune, won their second forecasting award for their accurate predictions on the monthly economic data released in October.

    Of the 10 indicators tracked in the contest, Bethune and Gault had the most accurate forecast for industrial production, and were among the most accurate on the Institute for Supply Management index, retail sales, and housing starts. The data mostly covered activity in September, when the economy was hit with a fresh wave of worries about credit.

    Bethune and Gault say the recovery will take a long time. They foresee declining gross domestic product through the first half of 2009, with unemployment peaking in 2010.

    But they recognize that their forecast is more uncertain than usual. It depends on credit markets thawing enough to allow well-capitalized businesses to borrow again. If credit markets remain frozen, the economy will worsen.

    In the worst case, we’ll see more bankruptcies and a “downward spiral of jobs and further declines in asset prices,” Gault said.

    The business sector is reacting quickly to the collapse in credit and the drop in demand from consumers and other businesses. “Firms seem to be moving fairly quickly to shed jobs,” Gault said.

    On an optimistic note, once demand snaps back, hiring could improve faster than it did after the 1991 or 2001 recessions, Gault said, because there weren’t the kind of excesses in hiring during the most recent expansion.

    There’s not as much slack labor this time around, and firms won’t be able to meet renewed demand without bulking up their workforce.
    Congress will probably pass an expanded economic stimulus plan of about $200 billion, Gault said.

    They haven’t fully incorporated it into their forecast, because the timing isn’t clear. Most likely, the new plan would take effect in the first quarter and include extended unemployment benefits, aid to state and local governments and increased spending on infrastructure.

    Gault and Bethune are also counting on a tax cut, either as a rebate or as a down payment on the middle-class tax cut that Barack Obama campaigned on.

    The big question, of course, is how all this is going to be paid for.

    Global Insight was formed in 2001 as a merger between two top economic consulting firms — DRI and WEFA. It has more than 700 employees worldwide and has the largest economics staff outside a central bank. It remained a private company until its acquisition by IHS Inc. was finalized a month ago.

    Gault worked for 15 years at DRI, Global Insight’s predecessor company, then left to go to rival Decision Economics. He came back in 2003. He earned a doctorate in economics from Harvard after attending undergraduate school in the other Cambridge, the one in England.
    Bethune went to McMaster University in Ontario, then got his doctorate at the University of Geneva. He worked for Bank of Montreal and then Caterpillar Inc. as an economist before joining Global Insight four years ago.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/global-insight-economists-hit-their/story.aspx?guid=%7b5F0229E8-6AF7-4785-89FE-A572D8A6C122%7d&print=true&dist=printMidSection

  20. Hillary’s Eleanor Roosevelt moment
    By Ellen Goodman
    December 5, 2008

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    IT WAS a moment bound to give anyone second thoughts about Hillary Clinton’s nomination as secretary of state: Rush Limbaugh called it a “brilliant stroke.” If Rush, who had famously said America wasn’t ready to see Clinton age in the Oval Office, was ready to see her age at Foggy Bottom, what was I missing?
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    Of course, it turned out that Rush was being his old cynical self. He wasn’t praising Hillary’s talent, but Obama’s cunning at keeping his enemy close.

    So it went with much of the analysis before and after Clinton was chosen for the premier Cabinet post. The political story line asked if she would be a “teammate” or a “rival” in the “Team of Rivals” metaphor du jour. And was she close enough to the president to be his international right hand?

    The psychological story line asked, however, whether we were getting yet another new Hillary. A National Review blogger described her as an “enigma who is best seen in stages; as a series of parts, not a whole.”

    A series of parts? Not a whole? Hillary, lawyer, wife, mother, first lady, senator, presidential candidate, secretary of state.

    I was reminded of Mary Catherine Bateson’s classic book, “Composing a Life,” which describes life as the art of improvisation.

    Life is not a straight and narrow march of achievement, but a quilt made of many parts. Reading the trajectory of many women’s lives with their interruptions and conflicts, twists and turns, Bateson saw creativity, not confusion. “These are not lives without commitment, but rather lives in which commitments are continually refocused and redefined.”

    One of the lifelong commitments Clinton will bring to her new role is to improve the rights and everyday lives of the world’s women. These issues will not be the “women’s page” in her portfolio, but integral to the way she views the world and, perhaps, to the way America can exercise its power.

    Says Melanne Verveer, who traveled with first lady Hillary Clinton through more than 80 countries as her chief of staff, “she didn’t just drop by the palace.” She was always engaged in the struggles of women.

    In 1995, Clinton led the US delegation to a UN conference on women’s rights in Beijing. There, she electrified the delegates and challenged the hosts, saying, “If there is one message that echoes forth from this conference, let it be that human rights are women’s rights and women’s rights are human rights, once and for all.”

    Thirteen years later, those words are still radical in parts of the world. We have learned from the Taliban and others that the enemies of American values take their first shots at the freedom of women. But the Beijing conference jump-started change. The world understands that rape is not a byproduct of war but a war crime. The United Nations now defines violations of women’s rights as an international security issue, and nearly 90 countries have passed laws against domestic violence.

    Still, the new secretary of state will be operating in a world in which three-fifths of the world’s poorest people are women and girls. Seventy percent of the children not in school are girls. Half a million women die every year in childbirth. One in three women will suffer from the pandemic of violence – rape, honor killings, genital mutilation. But only 16 percent of legislators are women, and less than 3 percent of the people at the table when peace treaties are signed are female.

    “What we are learning around the world is that if women are healthy and educated, their families will flourish,” Clinton said in Beijing. “If women are free from violence, their families will flourish. If women have a chance to work and earn as full and equal partners in society, their families will flourish. And when families flourish, communities and nations do as well.”

    Part of a life? Or a whole life composed and recomposed? Well, Hillary regarded Eleanor Roosevelt as a role model. Mrs. Roosevelt’s second or third or perhaps fourth act was to get the world to agree to the first Universal Declaration of Human Rights. That was adopted exactly 60 years ago this month. Now it’s Hillary Clinton’s improvisational turn.

    Ellen Goodman’s e-mail address is ellengoodman@globe.com.
    © Copyright 2008 Globe Newspaper Company.

  21. This is a request from BO via PluffFluff/paid for by the DNC…
    Who is holding onto that infamous database? I thought it could no longer be used exclusively and individually by BO.

    Here is the request:

    Change is coming — join a house meeting

    David Plouffe, BarackObama.com
    to me

    show details 12:51 PM (51 minutes ago)

    Sign up for a house meeting!
    One month ago, you made history by giving all Americans a real opportunity for change.

    Now it’s time to start preparing and working for change in our communities.

    On December 13th and 14th, supporters are coming together in every part of the country to reflect on what we’ve accomplished and plan the future of this movement. Your ideas and feedback will be collected and used to guide this movement in the months and years ahead.

    Join your friends and neighbors — sign up to host or attend a Change is Coming house meeting near you.

    Since the election, the challenges we face — and our responsibility to take action — have only gotten more urgent.

    You can connect with fellow supporters, make progress on the issues you care about, and help shape the future of your community and our country.

    Learn what you can do now to support President-elect Obama’s agenda for change and continue to make a difference in your community.

    Take the first important step by hosting or attending a Change is Coming house meeting. Sign up right now:

    http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming

    To get our country back on track, it will take all of us working together.

    Barack and Joe have a clear agenda and an unprecedented opportunity for change. But they can’t do it alone.

    Will you join us at a house meeting and help plan the next steps for this movement?

    Thanks,

    David

    David Plouffe
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

    Please donate

    Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, http://www.democrats.org.
    This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.

    Democratic National Committee, 430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC 20003

    Contributions or gifts to the Democratic National Committee are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes.

    What happened to change.gov?

    Why is this offer to add one’s voice being made only to Democrats?

  22. And the bots continue their hill-hate-fest.

    Despicable pic of BO’s speechwriter ‘groping’ a cardboard cutout of HRC at a recent party while another guy raises his bottle of beer to her mouth.

    Absolutely OBSCENE!
    this guy has to be fired. 👿
    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/04/one_more_question.html

  23. Caterpillar convinced long term demand for metals and minerals will grow
    Mining and construction equipment giant, Caterpillar, is confident about long term growth in minerals and metals, and for its equipment sales, while happy with this year’s profitability.

    Author: Rachelle Younglai
    Posted: Wednesday , 19 Nov 2008

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) –

    The chief executive of Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N), the world’s largest maker of earth moving equipment, says he is convinced that the long-term demand for minerals will grow.

    “It’s going to grow substantially because China, India, Southeast Asia, Latin America, all these emerging countries can’t grow without minerals,” Caterpillar Chief Executive James Owens told reporters on the sidelines of a CEO conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.

    The company, a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average .DJI and a U.S. business bellwether, makes construction and mining equipment such as large bulldozers and mining trucks — machinery crucial to the resources industry.

    However, the financial crisis and sharp fall in metals prices has forced several companies to abandon or put on hold their plans to bring new mines on stream. As well, some existing producers have shut down or curtailed output at mines and plants.

    Despite the downturn, Owens said Caterpillar is comfortable with its 2008 outlook for profits of about $6 a share and revenues and sales of about $50 billion. Owens said the company’s outlook for next year was obviously being formed as it “looks at all the traumas going on in the global financial markets.”

    “We will adjust our capital plans and our employment plans based on the business opportunities that are out there,” Owens said on the sidelines of the Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council meeting. “We certainly are looking at and thoughtfully considering what the global mining industry is going to do with their investments next year.”

    Owens said “right now we have a strong order backlog” from the mining industry. But also said it remains to be seen how much the slowing growth and drop in commodity prices will impact Caterpillar.

    Owens said he was confident that the company’s in-house finance arm, which lends money to buyers of its construction and mining equipment, would be able to weather the financial storm.

    “I think we have a very sound business model for (Caterpillar) finance,” he said, adding that the company had no plans to seek capital from the U.S. government’s $700 billion financial services rescue package.

    The government has already funneled $110 billion into the eight largest banks such as Goldman Sachs (GS.N) in a bid to restore the credit markets and confidence in the financial sector. Some companies with finance arms hope to receive capital injections from the U.S. Treasury Department.

    Overall Owens said the company was not so focused on acquisitions but said: “In any significant global downturn the strongest players tend to get stronger and I would expect that would be the case for us.” (Reporting by Rachelle Younglai, additional reporting by James Kelleher in Chicago; Editing by Tim Dobbyn, Richard Chang)

    http://www.mineweb.net/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page72558?oid=73343&sn=Detail

  24. That was beyond offensive…how can he get away with that when everything Hillary and her staff did was under a magnifying glass 24/7. It was a disrespectful act imo .

  25. Don’t know what happened to the first time I sent this…

    Obviously it has not been decided to whom the famed Obama network database belongs: 1) BO (no, if it is used by him or any of his administration solely for him, his ideas, plans, legislative initiatives, etc.) 2)the gov’t (yes, but must be available to anyone and all…) 3) the DNC (yes)

    Well here comes an Obama house party invite from the DNC… Question: is it for the White House, for the President to get his policy/program/legislative initiatives through?…or for the Democrats?…or what?
    ————————————————
    Change is coming — join a house meeting

    Add to Contacts list
    David Plouffe, BarackObama.com
    to me

    show details 12:51 PM (51 minutes ago)

    Always display images from democraticparty@democrats.org
    The Democratic Party

    Sign up for a house meeting

    One month ago, you made history by giving all Americans a real opportunity for change.

    Now it’s time to start preparing and working for change in our communities.

    On December 13th and 14th, supporters are coming together in every part of the country to reflect on what we’ve accomplished and plan the future of this movement. Your ideas and feedback will be collected and used to guide this movement in the months and years ahead.

    Join your friends and neighbors — sign up to host or attend a Change is Coming house meeting near you.

    Since the election, the challenges we face — and our responsibility to take action — have only gotten more urgent.

    You can connect with fellow supporters, make progress on the issues you care about, and help shape the future of your community and our country.

    Learn what you can do now to support President-elect Obama’s agenda for change and continue to make a difference in your community.

    Take the first important step by hosting or attending a Change is Coming house meeting. Sign up right now:

    http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming

    To get our country back on track, it will take all of us working together.

    Barack and Joe have a clear agenda and an unprecedented opportunity for change. But they can’t do it alone.

    Will you join us at a house meeting and help plan the next steps for this movement?

    Thanks,

    David

    David Plouffe
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

    Please donate

    Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, http://www.democrats.org.
    This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.

    Democratic National Committee, 430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC 20003

    Contributions or gifts to the Democratic National Committee are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes.
    ———————————————
    Is it going to be just bots who have input privledges?

  26. JB,

    The article says he called HRC to apolgize. Big F***ING deal!
    That 27-year-old arrogant POS should be fired immediately.
    Can you imagine what would have happened if it was an HRC staffer groping a BO cutout?

    Looks like it’s still open season on our girl. 😈

  27. Keith Olberman and mathews would have been all over a Hillary staffer doing that to a cut out off MO…

  28. I heard on FOx that Caroline Kennedy has been seen today speaking with Gov. Patterson about Hillary’s old seat. Hold on folks, I think there is more Sh*( that we are going to find out about Hillary’s appointment! We must never forget what as*h)(e Obama really is!!!

  29. There are two sectors that really, really, really want a bailout.:

    Automobile and print media = newspapers and magazines.

    Both of these sectors have outdated business models and are heavy in debt.

    Prime example the Tribune Co. is begging for a piece of the bailout pie, because they have overextended themselves in borrowing for their expansion and just like Lehman brothers don’t want to sell or break-up the business to do what they need to do. They went from using OPM (other people monies) to TPM (tax payor monies).

  30. basil9 Says:

    December 5th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
    And the bots continue their hill-hate-fest.

    Despicable pic of BO’s speechwriter ‘groping’ a cardboard cutout of HRC at a recent party while another guy raises his bottle of beer to her mouth.
    &&&&&&&&

    They probably have a secret crush on her. Probably involving fantasies where she’s disciplining them.

    Kidding aside, for a woman who just turned 60, she looks fantastic.

  31. basil9 Says:

    Despicable pic of BO’s speechwriter ‘groping’ a cardboard cutout of HRC at a recent party while another guy raises his bottle of beer to her mouth.
    $$$$

    a) she’s probably cuter/hotter than anyone these guys are dating
    b) that beer bottle? she can probably outdrink these guys as well… and still be able to recite the heads of state she knows (and with whom she had tea!).

  32. People that hate a thing or person that much are really fearful of it or them.

    HRC is much better than they are. Have you not noticed that the women embraced by these men are usually women playing a role of subservancy, while they work their agenda through males? That is traditionally how they have done this. A lot of Rep women use this technique.

    HRC does not do that. She deals with them direct and as an equal, and they fear that.

  33. Prime example the Tribune Co. is begging for a piece of the bailout pie, because they have overextended themselves in borrowing for their expansion and just like Lehman brothers don’t want to sell or break-up the business to do what they need to do. They went from using OPM (other people monies) to TPM (tax payor monies).
    —————————————–
    Zero, zero, zero taxpayer money for the Tribune.

  34. Did you notice that Admin said we are working on the site problems.

    Do you ever wonder who the WE are?

    Just Asking.

  35. If the fucking Tribune gets a bailout–Clarence Page and those other disengenous bastard just tell me two things:

    1. where does it end?

    2. why do we pay taxes?

    If I thought about it I could list at least a dozen newspapers that have gone out of business in the last thirty years–the Washinton Star, the Brooklyn Eagle–the list goes on. And so does life without them. But any paper that employs people like page has no raison d’etre as they say in Arizona.

  36. And down with them would go the Los Angeles Times and the Hispanic newspaper the name of which escapes me. The Tribune owns all of them. And what do they all have in common? They all backed bambi over Hillary. And now we know why.

  37. Caroline “very interested” in Hillary seat

    Caroline Kennedy, the previously publicity-shy daughter of JFK, is putting out feelers about a possible appointment to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to Democratic insiders.

    The usually spot-on AP team of Barrett and Fouhy is reporting that Kennedy has already spoken to Gov. David Paterson, citing unnamed sources. We haven’t been able to confirm that. But we are told that she has spoken to at least one top New York Democrat about the job once held by her uncle Bobby.

    “She’s willing to step into the spotlight now,” an insider tells us. “Now that her kids are basically grown up she’s very interested.”

  38. meiyingsu Says:

    December 5th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    Caroline “very interested” in Hillary seat

    —————————————————————————————–

    I can’t tell you, how much this irritates me. There are other politicians who have paid their dues for years, and Caroline comes waltzing in. This is the work of Ted Kennedy. I wouldn’t be surprised, if HRC’s SOS appointment, was to get her out of the Senate, so that Caroline could be appointed. This was probably prearranged with BO and Ted Kennedy. Talk about dynasty and nepotism. It stinks to high heaven. The sense of entitlement with some of the Kennedy’s is breath taking.

  39. Who the F**K is SHE to DARE apply for the NYS senator position when she’s never done a F***ING thing in her F***ING life except get born a F***ING Kennedy! (Oh, and write a couple of kids books which never would have been published if her last name had been anything other than kennedy)

    I am SOOOOO F****** MAD about this! I just moved back to NYS a year and a half ago. I was ecstatic to be getting out of Jersey and moving to a state where HRC had such great influence. Now she’s gone, the unqualified Paterson’s gov and CK wants to shove her way in! I can’t believe NYS politicos would put up with this. It would make a laughing stock of the state.

    SICKENING!

    (I wouldn’t mind BC taking it, though).

  40. (I wouldn’t mind BC taking it, though).

    ———————————————————-

    LOL! That would be great, but he is overqualified.

  41. And the hits just keep on coming:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081206/ap_on_el_pr/obama_democrats

    Obama campaign mulls what to do with $30M surplus

    WASHINGTON – Democrats carrying significant campaign debt after winning a string of House and Senate races are grumbling about President-elect Barack Obama’s financial reserves, saying the party’s leader is sitting on a pile of cash while Democratic leaders are broke.

    Obama’s organization retains some $30 million after his successful presidential bid, but it’s unclear how the Democratic president-in-waiting might use the money. Members of his party are doing their best to appeal for the funds without appearing greedy, ungrateful or hostile to their new leader.

    “If I was a top adviser to the president elect, I wouldn’t necessarily be advocating saving those dollars,” said Raymond Buckley, chairman of the New Hampshire Democratic Party. “It was critically important that we not repeat what happened in ’93, ’94,” when President Bill Clinton held the purse strings and Democrats lost 54 U.S. House seats and eight senators during midterm elections.

    “We need the resources to build the national grass roots network for the Obama agenda. We need to make sure the president is successful and that the administration fulfills his promises,” Buckley said.

    The Democratic National Committee is carrying about $5 million in debt, with almost $12 million cash on hand. DNC officials say they expect to have the debt paid by the end of the year. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee carries some $19 million in debt and less than $3 million on hand. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee is nearly $13 million in debt.

    Obama raised more than $745 million during his marathon campaign, more than twice the amount obtained by his rival, Republican John McCain. In his latest finance report, Obama reported raising $104 million in more than five weeks immediately before and after Election Day.

    “This is the first presidential candidate and president who has not been publicly financed in the general election,” said Ken Gross, a former Federal Election Commission lawyer. “Every other president since Jimmy Carter has not had excess funds.”

    Obama opted not to participate in public funding system. In exchange, he was able to continue raising money, while McCain accepted $84 million in taxpayer money, and the spending restrictions that went with it, through the public financing system.

    snip

    Party officials around the country say the campaign leaders have signaled they shouldn’t expect the money to come to them directly, if at all. Instead, many party officials expect Obama to use his funds to advance his own priorities, to support his massive Internet-based organization and to have cache for special causes. With almost 4 million donors, Obama’s fundraising list could prove golden for future Obama-backed drives.

    “Right now, it looks like the sky is the limit,” Gross said.

    Obama aides emphasize the campaign expects to continue having expenses, along with tax obligations and political operations. They also say Obama has little interest in bankrolling state committees or individual candidates. Those involved say the logical option is the Democratic National Committee, although no one is pressing for a quick transfer.

    see the link for the entire sickening article.

    He could give some of the money to the poor people on the South Side of Chicago, but he won’t. Not wanting to help other candidates or state organizations isn’t very appreciative for all the support that he received during the campaign. His slogan shoud be: “Me, Me, Me, and only Me.”

  42. meiyingsu Says:

    December 5th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    Caroline “very interested” in Hillary seat

    Caroline Kennedy, the previously publicity-shy daughter of JFK, is putting out feelers about a possible appointment to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to Democratic insiders.
    ————————————
    From the sublime to the ridiculous.

  43. Party officials around the country say the campaign leaders have signaled they shouldn’t expect the money to come to them directly, if at all. Instead, many party officials expect Obama to use his funds to advance his own priorities, to support his massive Internet-based organization and to have cache for special causes. With almost 4 million donors, Obama’s fundraising list could prove golden for future Obama-backed drives.
    —————————————–
    This is how dictators operate.

  44. The usually spot-on AP team of Barrett and Fouhy is reporting that Kennedy has already spoken to Gov. David Paterson, citing unnamed sources.
    ——————————–
    Fouhey??usually spot on??????????? rumor mongers would be more like it. Citing unnamed sources? Why should anyone believe them???

  45. rjk1957 Says: [Obama’s] website is asking people to submit ideas on how to fix the healthcare system and ways to provide healthcare to the uninsured.
    =================

    I don’t have the energy or the stomach to visit BO’s website, but this seems like an idea worth posting, if anyone does get up there.

    … Health care reform is another obvious priority. In Summers’s view, the current employer-based system, which creates insecurity for many families and big costs for companies, may need to be replaced by one in which the government pays for insurance but individuals choose what plan they want. It would be single payer, but not as England or Canada does it.

  46. We are loathe to waste time discussing software issues and such but we do want to again issue a warning and apologies.

    Warning: This weekend we will be working extensively on the software for the website so do not be surprised at outages.

    Many people have written us about inability to read comments and some cannot even access the website. We apologize. Many regular commenters (neetabug, dija) have not been able to read comments let alone post comments.

    Hopefully everything will be resolved by the end of the weekend and the website (including some design changes) will be fully operational. Unlike Hopium addicts, there will not be change for the sake of change. The changes will be for the better.

    Again, our apologies for a difficult week on the site, let alone a bad week in the world.

  47. {{{ admin }}}

    Take it easy, don’t work too hard, don’t stress out with the programming. You do so much already.

    Who does your hair?

    {{{ admin }}}

    g,d,r

  48. I could be wrong, but as I see it there a three (3) types of Obama supporters–only three.

    1. the ignorant: if it is not on msm it does not exist, because msm always tells us the truth.

    2. the delusional: he is the messiah, etc. he will perform miracles, e.g. jon-favreau, terrorists

    3. the corrupt: bambi, axelrod, msm, multi-nationals, neo-libs

  49. so the next time you see a bot, you might want to ask him which one he is–for clarification purposes as the lawyers say.

  50. Palin: Gas line will work without Point Thomson resources
    By Rena Delbridge

    Published Saturday, December 6, 2008

    FAIRBANKS — Point Thomson, estimated to hold more than a quarter of the North Slope’s natural gas reserves, isn’t necessary to make a large-diameter gas pipeline work financially, Gov. Sarah Palin and members of her administration said Friday in an interview with the News-Miner editorial board.

    Some legislators and Exxon officials have maintained that without Point Thomson gas, a trans-continental gas line will never work.

    The governor was in Fairbanks on Friday for the signing of a state license to TransCanada. The Alaska Gasline Inducement Act license gives state approval and up to $500 million to TransCanada, which in exchange agreed to meet a number of state terms and deadlines as it moves forward with a proposed natural gas pipeline from the North Slope to Alberta.

    Marty Rutherford, deputy commissioner of the state Department of Natural Resources, said the governor’s gas line team analyzed a “worst-case scenario” to determine the trans-continental gas line project economics without Point Thomson resources.

    “It still works,” she said. “The economics of the project still work, even without that initial through-put from Point Thomson.”

    Exxon and the state are at odds over the Point Thomson Unit, which DNR Commissioner Tom Irwin officially terminated this summer. Exxon has appealed that action while carrying on with drilling preparations at the site. The company’s Alaska manager, Craig Haymes, told a legislative committee Dec. 1 that pending an ice road state construction permit, Exxon would be ready to drill production wells in 2009.

    DNR officials insist that Exxon has already had enough chances to follow through on production, and that the leases should be offered to a company with serious development intentions. Exxon has held many of the unit leases for several decades. The remainder are held by 26 other companies, including BP, ConocoPhillips and Chevron.

    “Exxon is very nervous about losing that unit and those leases,” Rutherford said. “They are putting a lot of pressure on the state. But at the end of the day, we’ve gotten commitments from them previously that they haven’t honored.”

    Several legislators suggested at the Dec. 1 hearing that the state is using Point Thomson as leverage to prompt Exxon to commit its gas reserves to the TransCanada pipeline.

    “You know, some would say that Exxon has held Point Thomson and the state hostage for a couple of decades now,” Palin countered. “No, we’re not playing that game. What we’re doing, what is right for Alaska, is to say that we need that development up there, it’s time for that development, and by not abiding by the provisions in your leases, you knew what was coming, Exxon.”

    Palin acknowledged that producers are critical to the success of TransCanada’s plans.

    She said the state will help bring producers on board by reminding them of upstream inducements and of how economical the pipeline project is.

    “That is what it will take, of course, to get the project actually built, is for all parties to be in this as one,” Palin said.

    newsminer.com/news/2008/dec/06/palin-gas-line-will-work-without-point-thomson-res/
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    This woman has guts and is a fighter….the oil companies have been getting away with this crap for too long and even had their own guys in office to con the American people. And this gutsy woman gov in Alaska is taking away their leases because of their “do nothing but line their own pockets” business model.

    No wonder they supported Obama and Biden (who by the way has voted no every single time on the Alaskan pipeline), why do we have a Dept. of Energy if this country is not going to be serious of administrating our country’s resources. Let keep outsourcing 750billion dollars a year to countries that hate us.

    And no, I don’t think alternative energy is going to replace “old energy” for decades to come, so while we are in transition we need to reduce the upside down dependence on foreign oil (70%) and start reversing the trend back to when Jimmy Carter was president (26%).

  51. carbynew Says:

    December 6th, 2008 at 11:47 am
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    carby: I am impressed with your anaylsis. It sure tells it how it is. You can see why the global business interests detest someone who will say no to them, in order to protect the American People. Why they want someone like Obama who will sell out our people in a New York minute to please his global masters. The record speaks for itself on both counts. All the more reason we should support Governor Palen.

  52. Than Admin who ever, group you are. I have not have the problems others have, but I am thankful you are keeping this site alive.

  53. found on ‘Citizen Wells’ this morning…..”I was notified that Dr. Taitz confirmed that the Supreme Court Justices weren’t making a decision until 10am Monday”.

    I don’t know who Dr Taitz is, maybe someone else does

  54. New Mexico: regarding the US Supreme Court case, it his hard to say exactly what is going on. When you have the corrupt media which tells us only what they want us to know the task becomes even more difficult. So I am reading the blogs–particularly Texas Darlin comment section and you may wantto do likewise.

    1. first, this is merely a hearing on whether to hear the case on the merits, not a decision on the merits on the question of eligiblilty.

    2. second, it sounds like the only case heard was the donfredo case. Quite frankly, if that case is as reported then the theory of it eludes me.

    3. third, donfredo himself did not think the case went well. That usually means he did not do a good job in oral argument.

    4. fourth, the case will probably be reported on Monday.

    5. fifth, it sounds like the Berg case was not heard yet. That is the strong case. I believe it has videotaped testimony of his Kenyan grandmother saying he was born there.

    6. sixth, more cases are being filed in other jurisdictions. Some jurisdictions require the sos to certify eligibilty. Thus the court could remand back to them for an independent determination.

    7. seventh, I have no inside information on this. I do believe however that the case will not go away.

    8. eighth, the only reason msnbc and other big media thugs are bleating that the theory is bad and the court will not go against the American People is because their BUSINESS PLAN depends on him becoming president. It aint about credibility anymore, it is about a Tribune bailout.

    9. ninth, the simple answer of course is the court is the custodian of the Constitution, the issue is paramount, and if there was fraud in the inducemnet, then it is the duty of the court to so state or to remand it to an entity that will. In that case the parties responsible are the unholy triangle of big media, dnc and bambi himself.

    10. tenth, this is just guesswork.

  55. HRC does not do that. She deals with them direct and as an equal, and they fear that.

    …and that is probably why I always liked Hillary.

  56. dedfg Says:
    December 6th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    HRC does not do that. She deals with them direct and as an equal, and they fear that.

    …and that is probably why I always liked Hillary.
    ====================

    Me too. And I agree that is what scares them. She boggles their expectations. Great role model!

  57. About Hillary’s “problem” going from the Senate to SoS, due to a $5,000 increase in salary…Won’t Obama be going to a higher paying job within the government too, directly from the Senate? Shouldn’t he be subjected to “emolument”, and thereby disqualified from taking office of president? Or is that why he resigned so fast?

    Also, any word on BC from 12/5 events? Lemme guess…decisions deferred….until 2016.

  58. MORE FUNION:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/u_s_economy_continues

    U.S. Economy Continues Campaigning For Barack Obama

    WASHINGTON—Nearly a month after Barack Obama was elected the 44th president of the United States, the nation’s economy is still going strong in its efforts to secure him the highest office in the land. Through its trifecta of moribund housing prices, a wildly fluctuating stock market, and an unprecedented credit crisis, the U.S. economy helped propel Obama past rival John McCain in polls leading up to the Nov. 4 election—a helpful boost the nation’s financial system has since supplemented with the imminent collapse of the Big Three auto manufacturers and looming fears of a long-term depression. “Thanks to the disastrous efforts of our economy, Obama would be virtually unbeatable were he to run again in December or January,” CNN political analyst Pat Harris said. “According to the most recent data, Obama’s edge continues to grow among those who just lost their jobs and have no idea how they’re going to feed their children, as well as among citizens who are freezing to death on the streets at this very moment.” The outspoken U.S. economy, which has already been campaigning for months in Iceland and South America, reportedly plans to spend the next 10 to 15 years spreading its message to every single country on the globe.

  59. CNN political analyst Pat Harris said. “According to the most recent data, Obama’s edge continues to grow among those who just lost their jobs and have no idea how they’re going to feed their children, as well as among citizens who are freezing to death on the streets at this very moment.” The outspoken U.S. economy, which has already been campaigning for months in Iceland and South America, reportedly plans to spend the next 10 to 15 years spreading its message to every single country on the globe.
    *****************************************************
    Hard Left propaganda, it’s is sad when bulls**t has replace common sense. This country is in real danger in losing our American values if we don’t call this stuff out.

    What is going on right now is “Big Business Socialism” for all those bad deal done using OPM for expansion, instead of prudent, fiscal responsibility people used the credit card and now it’s time to pay off those debts…and what do we get now?

    Instead of OPM we got TPM (taxpayer money).

  60. rgb44hrc Says:
    December 6th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    About Hillary’s “problem” going from the Senate to SoS, due to a $5,000 increase in salary…Won’t Obama be going to a higher paying job within the government too, directly from the Senate?
    =========================

    The point is that the Senate has recently RAISED the salary of the SOS. I don’t think they’ve raised the salary of the Presidency lately.

  61. I’ve just made a Blogspot blog for Puma Responders, so people can get the links without having to go through GoogleGroups.

    h t t p : / / pumaresponders.blogspot.com/

    The template has got some tiny writing on the top which I can’t read, can anyone?

  62. CNN is executing a business model. They are reporting only that news that fits their business model. They are not to be trusted on anything.

  63. turndown, rgb: would the enoulments problem which keith olbersturmfuerer-shithead says is a disqualifing condition on Hillary appointment as SOS be solved if she refused to accept the $5000 increase in the wage level of the position which is the basis for the claim, or is someone who had more common sense that got gave a jackass like him said gee if you push that idea to the limits of its logic congress itself should all resign because they have voted themselves increases and remained in office. Now there is an idea worth considering.

  64. wbboei,

    What would solve the raised emoulement problem is above my pay grade, raised or not. However several KNowledgeable Pundits have suggested her taking the lesser salary or some similar practical solution; haven’t they said it came up in the past?

    gee if you push that idea to the limits of its logic congress itself should all resign because they have voted themselves increases and remained in office. Now there is an idea worth considering.

    🙂

  65. Troubled home loans through the roof again

    Foreclosure rates in Indiana, 8 other states above U.S. average

    A record one in 10 American homeowners with mortgages were at least a month behind on their payments or in foreclosure at the end of September as the source of housing market pressure shifted from risky loans to the crumbling U.S. economy.

    The percentage of loans at least a month overdue or in foreclosure was up from 9.2 percent in the April-June quarter and up from 7.3 percent a year earlier, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Friday.

    The foreclosure crisis continued to be concentrated in states like Florida, where a stunning 7.3 percent of all loans were in foreclosure at the end of September, by far the highest in the country.

    The national average was about 3 percent. Indiana was among nine states with a foreclosure rate above the national average, though its specific rate was not immediately available.

    Also above the national average were Nevada, Arizona, California, Michigan, Rhode Island, Illinois and Ohio.

    Distress in the home loan market started about two years ago as increasing numbers of adjustable-rate loans reset to higher interest rates. But the latest wave of delinquencies is coming from the surge in unemployment.

    With the economy worsening, the much anticipated bottom of the housing market likely will be pushed further into the future.

    “Things are going to get worse before they get better,” said Northern Virginia housing economist Thomas Lawler.

    Most troubling, he said, is that the mortgage bankers’ report reflects conditions before October’s stock market plunge and the resulting economic fallout.

    “The number of homes that are in the foreclosure process is so high — right before the economy has fallen off a cliff,” Lawler said.

    The U.S. tipped into recession last December, a panel of experts declared this week, and economists fear it could be the longest and most severe in decades. Since the recession began, 1.9 million jobs have been lost.

    Job losses already are having an impact in rising delinquency rates for traditional 30-year fixed-rate loans made to borrowers with strong credit. Total delinquencies on those loans rose to 3.35 percent in September from 3.07 percent at the end of June, the Mortgage Bankers Association said.

    Lenders appear to be on track to initiate 2.25 million foreclosures this year, up from an average annual pace of less than 1 million during the pre-crisis period, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said this week. The third quarter saw about 575,000 new foreclosures, according to the banking association’s data.

    There were some modest signs of stabilization. The number of loans that entered the foreclosure process totaled 1.07 percent of all loans in the third quarter, flat from the second quarter.

    That number, however, likely reflects changes in state laws that delay or extend the foreclosure process and efforts to work out or modify loans that still could fall into foreclosure.

    Also, the total delinquency rate on subprime adjustable-rate loans remained just over 21 percent, down from a peak of 22 percent in the first quarter.

    Of course, roughly 30 percent of Americans own their homes outright and are not reflected in the survey of about 45.5 million loans.

    But with delinquencies still accelerating on many types of loans, efforts to stabilize the U.S. housing market are accelerating. The Treasury Department is considering a plan to provide loans at 4.5 percent as a way to revive the market. The plan being considered would apply to new home purchases, not refinanced loans.

    But some analysts worry that the government’s plan will delay a necessary deflation of the housing bubble. With the government effectively lowering mortgage rates, housing prices could be prevented from falling to a more affordable level.

    Any government assistance plan should exclude homes that are out of line with rents or other measurements of affordability, said Dean Baker, an economist and co-director of the Center for Economic Policy Research in Washington.

    “It’s absolutely counterproductive to try and prop up prices,” he said.

    http://www.indystar.com/article/20081206/BUSINESS/812060396/1003/BUSINESS
    *****************************************************
    Paulson is an idiot!!!

    The worst Treasurer this country has had in a long time. He has failed, failed, failed because he is GWB #3 person in that post and there is no way you can convince me wasn’t planned.

    The financial community prepares monthes and years forecasts and to not know the financial system were heading for problems would be nonsensical to me. My 401k has been promoting bonds for the last 2yrs to protect my assets for the upcomming downturn.

    Yet, this idiot didn’t know nada until right in the middle of the presidential elections?…I’m not that naive!!! I notice he protected his old back from going under.

  66. I hope Hillary is very careful and has here appointment sealed before she gives up her seat in the senate. I think the fix is in for Caroline to get her seat and was probably the reason she was asked to become SOS. I don’t trust those Kennedy’s or Obama. Now I hear that this other guy will have most of the foreign policy under his watch, I think he is the national security advisor, thereby making HRC second in line. I hope HRC knows what she is doing. I do believe what they are posting on the Confluence that HRC looked resigned that her career is over and to me she looked so tired! I still believe something is just not right with this appointment.

  67. # turndownobama-com Says:
    December 6th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    rgb44hrc Says:
    December 6th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    About Hillary’s “problem” going from the Senate to SoS, due to a $5,000 increase in salary…Won’t Obama be going to a higher paying job within the government too, directly from the Senate?
    =========================
    The point is that the Senate has recently RAISED the salary of the SOS. I don’t think they’ve raised the salary of the Presidency lately.
    ***************
    It only affects appointed officials, not elected. William Saxby and Lloyd Bentsen also had the same problem and served at a lower salary. The issue has not been tested in court.
    will

  68. More places to comment on the speechwriter photo issue:

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  69. Confloyd: I agree with you completely. It has been planned for Kennedy to get Sen. Clinton’s senate seat. It is as plain as day. Unfortunately, Caroline lacks the charisma and accomplishments of her famous father and uncle. She reminds me of a limp wash rag.

  70. confloyd,
    I don’t watch much TV anymore coz just as i can’t bear to see BO mugging for the camera, I can’t bear to see HRC playing second fiddle to him.

    But this comment from Daninkat at Confluence sounds about right.

    Marcus took some time to discuss Hillary’s acceptance of SOS and was generally complimentary. Her only question was that of potential Big Dawg drama. Then, magically, some analysis caught me by surprise. She asked if any one had noticed how generally sad Hillary had looked on Monday while accepting SOS besides her? I think both Jim Lerher and David Brooks were also surprised by the comment, but after some reflection agreed. Yes she did look a little wistful with a hint of quiet resolution. Ruth said that she decided to follow-up later with a ‘close friend’ of Hillary about the observation. (Yes, that well known journalistic teaser yet again, she had an ‘unnamed’ source.) Ruth said the friend was well acquainted with the tinge of melancholia and that it was the result of Hillary knowing “her political career is over”.

    USA-OBAMA/CLINTONThat bit of self-reflection hit me on a real basic level. It sounded quite believable, but I was glad when David Brooks cracked a joke about the Clintons always managing to come back when you least expect them. But now I’m thinking again and I’m still coming back to this gut feeling that she probably has got that right but I’m still not sure why I feel that way, let alone, why she might feel that way.

  71. basil9 Says:

    December 6th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
    birdgal,

    And WTF has she ever DONE???????????????

    ———————————————————————————

    Her name is Kennedy. She has done some writing and charitable work. Oh, and she was pro-BO, and served on his VP vetting committee. We all know, what a great choice Biden has been. Ted Kennedy needs to go away.

  72. And here’s a typical bot reaction to the pic. 😈

    “It is pretty pathetic that this is a newsworthy story. The right wing just hates that America has an intelligent, thoughtful black man about to take office. Get over it already, you lost.”

  73. WTF does that pic have to do with Obama being “an intelligent, thoughtful black man”? Talk about an idiotic, irrelevant comment.

    BTW, Campbell Brown jumped all over Hillary for not criticizing Favreau. She doesn’t have to say a word. The pic itself is embarrassing enough to Obama and his frat boy speechwriter.

    Also, I think Hillary looked “sad” (I thought she appeared serious more than anything) because she’s leaving the Senate and that wasn’t an easy decision. Bill said as much in his CNN interview. But she decided she could make more of a difference as SoS than remaining in the Senate, where she had zero seniority and was being muscled out of a chance to lead health care reform.

  74. Hillary has been consistent in not responding to these sexist jibes directed at her.

    Idiot wind Brown ignored them during the campaign. What she says now is irrelevant.

    As a matter of fact, idiot wind brown herself is irrelevant. Poor judgment. Consumate hypocrite.

    Not worth listening to. Just a bad joke.

  75. Also, I think Hillary looked “sad” (I thought she appeared serious more than anything) because she’s leaving the Senate and that wasn’t an easy decision. Bill said as much in his CNN interview. But she decided she could make more of a difference as SoS than remaining in the Senate, where she had zero seniority and was being muscled out of a chance to lead health care reform.
    —————————————–
    I am sure it was not an easy decision. Serious trade-offs seldom are. But I believe it will look good in hindsight.

    I believe Obama will bring bad karma. I can only imagine what it must have felt like in the weeks prior to world war II. Eerie. You know something bad will happen, but you dont know who or where or when exactly.

  76. famous father and uncle. She reminds me of a limp wash rag.
    ————————————-
    famous father and INFAMOUS uncle. She is uninspired. With Hillary leaving and C. Kennedy secreting her way in the I

  77. # wbboei Says:
    December 7th, 2008 at 12:00 am

    the IQ of the Senate just dropped 20 points.
    ****************
    With the economy going into the sh*tter, I think Paterson will be committing political suicide if he appoints C. Kennedy. I don’t think the NY money people want a political zero to take Hillary’s seat.

  78. famous father and INFAMOUS uncle

    ———————————————-

    wwboei, I was thinking of RFK, not Ted Kennedy. Ted is not in the same class as his older brothers.

  79. The undeserved unqualified caroline kennedy representing one of the most important states in the union in the most exclusive club on the planet begs the question how will Patterson possibly sell the to the citizens of New York?

  80. I was thinking of RFK, not Ted Kennedy. Ted is not in the same class as his older brothers.
    ————————————–
    birdgal: agreed.

  81. With the economy going into the sh*tter, I think Paterson will be committing political suicide if he appoints C. Kennedy. I don’t think the NY money people want a political zero to take Hillary’s seat.
    ——————————————
    SHV: I sure hope you are right. I have a very low opinion of Patterson. But your last sentence made me stop and think.

  82. I hope when Hillary makes news on the international front and the reporters line up for interviews I hope she thinks twice before giving any interviews to CNN or NBC affiliates.

    Experience has shown that those two networks do not deal in the truth, facts or logic. It is problematic to let them have first shot at any story because they will distort it and that could have dire consequences in the foreign affairs arena. That is a serious concern.

    Other international media sources like Der Speigel, BBC, The Economist are objective. The leading Israeli and French Newspapers are objective. Big Media however is not. Surprisingly perhaps, I would rate Al Jazzera higher than our won big media. Really.

    From what I have seen in this campaign I shall not scruple to say that Big Media is on a par with Pravada, and the Peoples Republic of China. No hard facts you can rely on. Just rumor, unnamed sources, bad facts and pure propaganda. Granted, there are a handful of good international journalists but the editors are corrupt.

  83. I mean it if I were sos and wanted to send sensitive and nunced signals throug the press to hostile powers in order to court world public opinion, I would want a media outlet who was trustworth, would report exactly what I said. I would sooner give the story to the Three Stooges than to our own irresponsible media.

  84. wbboei said: Other international media sources like Der Speigel, BBC, The Economist are objective. The leading Israeli and French Newspapers are objective.
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  85. Turndown: you and Blue may be interested in this. My associates felt this needed to be toned down a bit so we have not sent, and may take a different tack altogether.
    ——————————————–
    Dear Ms. Noonan-

    We have followed your work since the days of the Reagan Presidency. We vividly recall the fine speeches you wrote for him. Your words and his gravitas awakened a spirit of optimism in all of us. They were precisely what the country needed to hear at that decisive moment in history. Since then, you have become one of our premier journalists and political experts– someone we look to for truth and leadership in times like these.

    We write to you now because we are deeply concerned about the precipitous decline in American journalistic standards. That decline was obvious in our recent election, as our vaunted national media shamelessly promoted the Obama candidacy at the expense of fair investigation, fair reporting and the truth itself. These bad practices have diminished public confidence in the media. Only now are some journalists beginning to take stock of the damage they have done to their own reputation and the profession itself.

    Unfortunately, those practices were also present in a shoddy article which appeared on a particular web blog. That blog is supported by a number of prominent women in the entertainment and media industries. Your name and picture are prominently displayed on the masthead. You are the preeminent journalist listed. Therefore, the bad journalism in that article could well be imputed to you, even though you did not write it yourself.
    The name of the blog is “Women on the Web”. The article in question is entitled “Clinton Aides Made Up Original Secretary of State Offer. You may wish to read the article and consider its implications. We have done so and concluded that it is highly problematic for three (3) obvious reasons:

    1) First, the article makes a serious allegation i.e. that Senator Clinton has put her own ambition above the country and the President elect with respect to the Secretary of State position.

    When someone who presumes to be a journalist makes a serious charge against a public figure with a proven track record of service to her country in a public forum it is incumbent upon that person to identify who he or she is and to provide sufficient proof to back up the charge. That is what responsible journalism is all about.

    But if you look at the article in question, you will find that the author is not identified. Instead, it purports to be written by unnamed staff. (Note: that is a deceptive journalistic practice employed by AP during this past election).

    Furthermore, the article purports to rely on informed sources, but those sources are not identified. (Note: that is a deceptive journalistic practice frequently employed by the New York Times during this past election)

    Finally, since neither the writer nor the sources are identified, its credibility rests entirely on the reputation of influential people like you who are listed on the site. (Note: someone is using you and your colleagues to promote their own ends, and a form of journalism I doubt you would agree with.)

    2) Second, the article merges fact, opinion and partisanship. The only hard fact it presents is that Hillary and Obama met in Chicago. The rest is nothing more than a partisan diatribe laced with slander and innuendo.

    As a journalist you know how important it is to separate the reporting function from editorial opinion, to own up to authorship and to identify sources. It is a fundamental obligation that every honest journalist owes to his or her readers. It is an ethical standard and is non-negotiable.

    We know that as well because M’s husband K ran one of the finest small town newspapers in America, his father was head of the Newspaper Publishers Association, and he knew the luminaries of the industry including Katherine Graham, Ben Bradley and other names you would recognize in an instant.

    The traditional role of serious journalism is to challenge power, and tell the truth to the audience. It is not to bamboozle them. Chris Matthews misapprehends the role of media in a free society when he says the media must make the Obama administration look good. That is the role of a press secretary, or a propaganda minister, but not a serious journalist.

    We are strong supporters of Hillary Clinton. We believe in her as a person and as a leader of our country. But we do not claim she is perfect, any more than any other public figure is perfect.

    Inevitably, people at the top level of government play the game of power. The question is whether they make a positive contribution to the country in the process. We know from past experience that she definitely does, in ways that most people are not even aware of.

    We know you have written books and articles critical of Hillary. Frankly, that does not matter. Other distinguished writers like Susan Estrich have written favorable ones. What does matter however is that when we undertake to present our views on an important subject we do so honestly and we differentiate between fact, supposition and opinion so the reader is empowered. Case in point: your dreamy visit to Michael Eisner’s house.

    By contrast the web blog article is nothing more than unsubstantiated gossip which is intended to diminish the standing of a brilliant woman who has devoted her life to public service and is about to assume one of the most consequential roles in history, and it is imperative to the country that she succeed. This kind of article has no place in the public square at a time when our nation faces existential challenges. But again, if there is hard proof to substantiate this allegation then by all means present it. Honest journalism will accept nothing less and neither should we.

    3) third, the article has a distinctly Orwellian cast to it which we find quite troubling—some might even say “creepy”. For example, the writer refers to Obama as “shrewd and imaginative” for holding a meeting to “woo a former rival a bit so she does not complicate his presidency too much” and denigrates her deliberations over the job as “the only snag in an otherwise unusually smooth transition involving impressive choices” and proves that “getting involved with the Clintons is rarely uncomplicated”.

    Obviously, the writer is a sycophant locked in campaign mode determined to do a drive-by. Whether he or she is on the Obama team or a free lancer we cannot say.

    The purple prose of this writer is symptomatic of what we see in the media today. It is like Gresham’s Law in the sense that the bad money drives out the good. It is a deadly strain of yellow journalism, which began with the media’s adoration of candidate George W Bush, and its corresponding refusal to hold him accountable until the truth could no longer be denied. It continued with their headlong plunge into the Iraq War. And now you see it again in their deification of Obama.

    If Emile Zola were alive today he would repeat his famous words: “this is beyond the bounds of common sense, truth and justice. It is a stupid thing that would drag us back in time etc”.

    We can think of no better example than the pattern and practice of sexism which our dysfunctional media directed against Senator Clinton and Governor Palen in this election.

    We saw deranged men like Chris Mathews and Keith Olberman, petty patriarchal women like Andrea Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Maureen Dowd, and bloated executives like Steve Capus and Phi Griffin dragging us back in time on the issue of gender, while dismissing serious attempts to vet Obama, or clarify his ambiguous responses as veiled racism.

    But it is particularly ironic that a website entitled “Women on the Web” would further the cause of sexism by attacking Senator Clinton in this manner.

    You may recall an editorial written by the former publisher of the Wall Street Journal Peter Kann entitled “A Report to The Wall Street Journal’s Readers” which appeared on January 9, 1992.

    In that article Kann identified the causal forces which have produced this Gotterdammerung in American journalism, i.e. the blurring of the line between journalism vs. entertainment; news vs. opinion; the pitfalls of pack journalism; exaggerated pessimism; the tyranny of social orthodoxies; ethical Puritanism; short term attention span; and the issue of power.

    With respect to the last point, we wish to repeat with emphasis his exact words because they are profound and should be cast in bronze and hung over every newsroom in the country: “The press is a powerful presence in our society. We really should not want it that way. The press’s purpose should be to empower its readers and viewers by providing them with relevant information with which to make decisions as individuals and viewers”.

    That is not at all what big media is doing today. Instead of telling us what we need to know, they presume to tell us what we should think. That is the business model of Pravda/Isvestia. Much of the fault can be traced to the editor’s desk, and the day Jack Welch bought NBC.

    If Ronald Reagan were alive right now, we rather suspect that he would be taking the press to task for the way it has betrayed the American People. We fancy that you would be with him providing the right words to drive home the essential points.

    Peggy, we need you and other distinguished journalists to address this issue. When Obama surrogates (Dean, Rice, inter alia) say he will “rule” our country, the media should challenge that statement in the moment because it violates the core constitutional principle that the American People are the sovereign, and the President is their servant– not the reverse.

    The true role of the media in a democracy is to empower the people and to speak truth to power. You could begin with the small yet consequential step of publicly repudiating the article in question and the website that published it under your name inter alia. If you have other ideas on the subject we would be delighted to hear them.

    Very truly yours,

  86. carbynew

    I’ve been in bed for days with a very very high temperature and nausea — which has just returned.
    But if I got the point of your hypocrisy notes, I agree with you. First Campbell Brown doesn’t seem overly bright — she is, however, married to someone who is someone which got her or keeps her her job. She is a bit annoying.

    As for Rendell’s comments, what he said was “X is a workaholic — has no real personal life and will work 24/7”. That isn’t sexist. That could be a man — and usually is. With men, however, workaholics can have a family which they ignore. I thought the fuss over his comments was silly — he didn’t say anything derogatory except to those who believe that women without a family to put first aren’t really feminine, which IS sexist.

    As for the notion that HRC had a dead end job in the senate — she was offered the head of appropriations which she said was like offering her the senate on a platter (most powerful committtee).
    She would have been a dynamo. I think that she really believed that she had to help this administration succeed and she did it at some sacrifice. She was a born senator. But she also will do very well as SOS.

    Now it’s back to bed and my lightheadedness. If I said anything wrong, I’m not responsible. 🙂

  87. wbboei
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    Very persuasive. Could cut the bloated Olberman paragraph (tone doesn’t match the rest) and some other cuts that interrupt the flow. The beginning compliments to her and Reagan sounded sarcastic to me, but I’m anti-Reagan; maybe she would recognize it as sincere; still a little long before the piece gets to any meat. Also the bit about her name appearing on a website etc sounds like sarcasm. Some condensing or cutting might fix the sarcasm problem.

    Elsewhere some very clear persuasive prose! Impressive.

  88. As for the notion that HRC had a dead end job in the senate — she was offered the head of appropriations which she said was like offering her the senate on a platter (most powerful committtee).
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    Freckles: I think one of the factors that caused Hillary to pursue the Secretary of State position when his people miscalculated and gave her an opening was a fundamental disagreement she has with some of the tax and spend policies he will rain down on the country.

    If that assumption is correct–and I have reason to believe it is then it would be a terrible trap for her to be head of appropriations and have to take money from the American People to fund those misbegotten policies.

    Independent of that I am highly sceptical of this last minute offer. There is no reason to make her head of appropriations, but every reason in the world to make her head of health care. But they were not willing to do that. My sense is this is either an outright lie or else an attempt to prevent her from accepting the sos position. In any event it does not seem bona fide to me.

    This sounds like the kind of idea that political hacs and political whores might dream up to cover their tracks. I am at the point where I believe them if what they say is attested to by two or more competent witnesses who have no financial or political interest in the estate of the testator–because in some respects they may be writing an obituary on our freedom nation.

    I woke up this morning wondering whether the frantic effort by his bots to erase anything critical of the Great Deceiver is not in some ways similar to the book burning orgies of the Nazis–or will become such over the course of time.

    If the Obama coalition is a conflunence of the corrupt, the delusional and the ignorant, then it is the third group we need to focus on and assume they are educable.

    I sure hope you feel better soon.

  89. For your Sunday Morning viewing pleasure;

    Pics of Pooplosi, Godzilla, McCrapskill and others photoshooped onto the cardboard cut-out.

    I’m waiting for someone to put BO’s mug there with Favreau’s hand a tad bit lower.
    👿 (from The Confluence)
    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/oh-my-those-obama-speechwriters/#comment-245071

  90. Turndown: thanks. Your points are very valid. I have only contempt for the media people who have undermined the standards of honest journalism and misled our nation repeatedl on imporant matters to our detriment. It constantly seeps into my writing. It is always there.

    I will see what my friends want to do. I am sure they would agree with your edits. But if I am going to send it I want them on board. They are fine thinkers, are deeply concerned with the fate of journalism and their name would mean something whereas mine would be just a voice in the wilderness to Noonan.

    If you see any ideas in there that you and Blue want to use feel free.

  91. Pics of Pooplosi, Godzilla, McCrapskill and others photoshooped onto the cardboard cut-out.
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    If this is what the leadership of this country looks like today, then God help us. They are the negation of leadership. The test is not can they cheat and bamboolze their way to the presidency with a corrupt media in their hip pocket. The test is whether they can govern the nation in a time of crisis, and the answer to that question is no.

  92. Heading the appropriations cmte in these economic times is not a great job!!!!!!!!

    The job is a dead end…..so many things to do but not enough money !!!!!! Let us get real!!!!

  93. mp Says:

    December 7th, 2008 at 11:57 am
    Heading the appropriations cmte in these economic times is not a great job!!!!!!!!

    The job is a dead end…..so many things to do but not enough money !!!!!! Let us get real!!!!
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    When was Senator Clinton offered this position?

  94. The market is just wild about bambi and has given its riging endorsement ever since it became obvious he would be given the nomination by party hacs. The DOW was 14000 before that.

    The wealth lost by the mere shadow of his candidacy is staggering. But I guess it is okay as long as The Tribune and the rest of Big Media get a bailout for their management stupidities. On the other hand how could we love without them,

    The largest brokerage house just sent out an advisory to its clients. The front cover reads: “strategies for protecting your portfolio in a time of sweeping change in washington (socialism) and wall street. Which is still okay as long as ACORN gets more funds so its leaders can embezzle them.

    And the caption of the feature article reads: Blue Print For A Bear Market: despite “challenges” (read big domestic problems) there is still considerable stength and opportunity IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY (emphasis added).

    Bambi is a real winner. As bad as Bush was we never had a financial collapse in eight long years until bambi was nominated. The investors begain obama proofing at that time–selling equities, and the rest as they say is history.

    But if economic opportunity and growth will occur outside our borders, and bambi is leading us down the dreary path of socialism (quite possibly national socialism of a different kind) then the problems of the world may be more solveable than those of our country. Change, hope, crap.

  95. What I posted at 12:42 above is precisely the kind of journalism we see today from big media. It confuses corrolation with causation, substitutes opinion for fact and puts the entire onus on one individual (not Hillary in this case) ignoring all the other forces at work. It is propaganda. I may post it around and see how the bots like it when it is directed back their way.

  96. I guess the only reason I am dwelling on this at all is because it goes to show how far stupidity and hipocracy can take you in the world of CNN.

    Yesterday, I called Campbell Brown “idiot wind”. That is a lyric from the songwriter Bob Dylan. Altough I am not a devotee of his music like some are, the lyrics do seem to fit her like a tee.

    I do not watch her myself. Young stupid hypocrites like her are not my thing. But if idiot wind’s comments were as represented, then she attacked the victim for not protesting rather than the maggot who tried to make out with a piece of cardboard or better still the maggots boss.

    What better proof could there possibly be that idiot wind is corrupt, and nothing she says as a journalist has any validity. Falso in uno falso in ominbus.

    However, if I understand the above blog, it appears she was attacking the victim of this the little maggot who made out with the cardboard likeness of Hillary, rather than the maggot or the maggots boss the head maggot if you will.

  97. Hooray!

    Being locked out of here for over 2 days is more than I can take.

    Going back now to see what I missed

  98. It’s to be hope that New Yorkers register a loud NO to the idea that someone as vapid and low-achieving as Caroline Kennedy could even be considered in the first 100 of potential replacements.

    The woman is a hanger-on. She has lived off the “Kennedy” name and done very little that really matters. Lending a name to this charity or that scholarship does not a heroine make.

    Hillary is a Heroine. Caroline shouldn’t be handn’t everything on a plate.

  99. Right on Jan. We must protect the IQ of the senate at all cost. It is in serious trouble now with Hillary’s departure. Caroline’s mental horsepower would drop it below the redline. McCaskill is a big drag already–no pun intended.

  100. wbboei,

    It just boggles the mind that someone,who hasn’t done a tenth of the work Hillary has for the people, just thinks she can waltz in and become a senator. Kind of reminds me of the president-elect.

    Sigh…I guess anything is possible. 😉

  101. Right on Jan. We must protect the IQ of the senate at all cost. It is in serious trouble now with Hillary’s departure. Caroline’s mental horsepower would drop it below the redline. McCaskill is a big drag already–no pun intended.

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    WHY NOT….the pun I mean????

    With her FAT ASS and LOUD MOUTH, MCCASKILL IS A DRAG!!!!!!

  102. Anybody who has been in the senate, house, and WH since 2006 is EQUALLY REPSONSIBLE for the economic mess!!!!!!

    THAT MEANS OBAMA, MCCASKILL, REID, DODD, BIDEN, BUSH II, PELOSI and even HILLARY!!!!!!

  103. birdgal…

    Head of appropriations…I do not know…since byrd gave up this chair, Akaka has taken over…..I think Hillary is better of leaving it to AKAKA due to seniority etc issues in the Senate…

  104. With her FAT ASS and LOUD MOUTH, MCCASKILL IS A DRAG!!!!!!
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    mp: you make an excellent argument. You have persuaded me.

  105. LOL…not sure if this was previously posted but…I believe this falls under the “poor Oprah” category…NOT! 😉

    Oprah says she wants Palin on her show.
    (CNN) – Did Sarah Palin snub Oprah Winfrey?

    That’s what the most popular daytime talk show host and fervent Barack Obama supporter appeared to suggest in a recent interview with the entertainment show Extra.

    “I said I would be happy to talk to Sarah Palin when the election was over… I went and tried to talk to Sarah Palin and instead she talked to Greta [Van Susteren]. She talked to Matt [Lauer]. She talked to Larry [King]. But she didn’t talk to me.”

    Winfrey’s comments came in response to rumors she refused to invite the former vice presidential candidate on her popular daytime show.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/page/2/

  106. I have to admit that the very last thing I thought Arianna Huffington would do on the Situation Room last Friday…was to defend Hillary and berate Obama for not helping her out with her campaign debts as soon as she dropped out of the primary.

    Ms. Huffington stated that everying primary winner for as many years as she could remember had worked hard to help their party rival decrease their debt in the past.

  107. Byrd is a mess. Just look at him try to give a speech. But senility was not the reason he gave up appropriations. In the Senate that is not deemed to be a disabling condition.

    The reason he did that is because he was told by someone who knew that there was no more room for highways to nowhere left in his state. None. Suddenly his world was shattered.

    He tried to annex part of Virginia in the name of lebensraum and more highways to nowhere but they said no. Now he is a broken man, etc. Worse, he may never break Claude Peppers record, or even Strom Thurman Trent Lotts hero.

  108. Greta [Van Susteren]. She impresses me. She is one of the few journalists who gets it. God I wish there were more like her.

  109. Hillary Clinton Consults With Israeli Leadership, Yediot Says
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    By Calev Ben-David

    Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) — Hillary Clinton spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak this weekend, pledging to work for regional peace, Yediot Ahronot said.

    The Israeli leaders congratulated Clinton, President-elect Barack Obama’s nominee for U.S. Secretary of State. Livni described Clinton’s appointment as beneficial for the region and told her “you are a true friend of Israel,” Yediot reported, without citing a source.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Calev Ben-David in Jerusalem at cbendavid@bloomberg.net.

    Last Updated: December 7, 2008 05:30 EST
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    Brilliant woman. But you know that already.

  110. It just boggles the mind that someone,who hasn’t done a tenth of the work Hillary has for the people, just thinks she can waltz in and become a senator. Kind of reminds me of the president-elect.

    Sigh…I guess anything is possible
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    Jan–it boggles my mind too. When I was canvassing for Hillary in Indiana, I would pass a sign on the road: Refrigeration Engineer–Experience Required.

    I find it passing strange that what is required to work on refrigeration systems is immaterial when it comes to presidnts and senators. You can thank big media for that delusion.

    I have a friend who keeps telling me people will learn that experience matters. Time will tell. I never would have thought it would get this far.

  111. Wbboei: Been held in comunicado for several days while snowed-in and extreme cold.Glad to be able once again put in my two cents worth wih a comment.I like the wake up call to ms Noonan.
    It is factual fair and to the point.No need to send a cream puff to
    her.Let her grin and bear it.She deserves it. Right on buddy.

    By ABM90

  112. wbboei said; If the Obama coalition is a conflunence of the corrupt, the delusional and the ignorant, then it is the third group we need to focus on and assume they are educable.
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    Yes. As Admin said a while back, our best tactic is to push/support Obama’s campaign promises. Let the bots of all kinds watch him flip and fail. That may move some of the delusional group into the ignornant group. The contrast between what they want and what he is doing, will be more clear than the issues we’ve been using so far.

    if we push for Obama to KEEP his campaign promises, that may bring some of the delu

  113. wbboei siad: But if economic opportunity and growth will occur outside our borders, and bambi is leading us down the dreary path of socialism (quite possibly national socialism of a different kind) then the problems of the world may be more solveable than those of our country. Change, hope, crap.
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    My ignornace of these matters is such that I’m never sure when you’re being sarcastic….

    I called him teh Wall Street candidate but Wall Street has been running away from him. Now the global economy may be wehre it’s at, which Summers and others seem to be thinking.

    But with the gnomes of Soros and all that….????

  114. Good points. Obama became president mostly due to his sneaky ways.
    – I’m still going to give him a chance. It seems like he’s put a really good cabinet together so far; hopefully they’ll guide him well.

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