Pennsylvania And The Good Ol’ USA

Yawn… Another shocker… Yawn.

It’s difficult for Big Media to “shock” Big Pink because we know Big Media is not to be believed as Big Media pushes narratives written by Big Media tool Barack Obama. We recall the New Hampshire primary when most polls showed Obama with a big lead but one dissenting poll had Hillary very very close to winning – Hillary won.

So… yawn… the latest Associated Press poll:

An Associated Press-GfK poll shows the presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000. Two weeks before the election, McCain and Barack Obama are essentially running even among likely voters.

The poll put Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent among those voters who are considered likely to vote on Nov. 4. The survey supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race has narrowed as Republicans drift home to their party. McCain’s “Joe the plumber” analogy also seemed to strike a chord.

The race is still volatile. Three weeks ago, an AP-GfK survey found that Obama had a seven-point lead over McCain.

It’s not only AP. TIPP (TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence claims that in 2004 it was 3/10 of 1% points within President Bush’s margin of “victory”) also has the presidential race fairly tight today.

Contrary to other polls, some of which show Obama ahead by double digits, the IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama’s lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He¹s also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he’s gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead. Obama padded gains in urban areas and with lower-class households, but he slipped 4 points with parents.

McCain gaining in the important suburbs and “No Sale” Obama even as Democrats admit Big Media is protecting Big Media tool Barack Obama.

But no one imagined even in a worse-case scenario such a spectacular bomb as telling donors Sunday to “gird your loins” because a young president Obama will be tested by an international crisis just like young President John Kennedy was.

Scary? You betcha! But somehow, not front-page news.

Again the media showed their incredible bias by giving scattered coverage of Biden’s statements.

As “No Sale” is stamped on Obama nationally, Big Media continues to trash John McCain. The latest study by The Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism, (2,412 stories from 43 newspapers and cable news shows) immediately after the party conventions tallys 60 percent of Big Media articles on McCain were negative with only 14 percent positive.

Earlier this week Big Media spent a few days mocking John McCain for even campaigning in Pennsylvania. Today a more reasoned analysis was published regarding the state of the race in Pennsylvania and why McCain should continue to campaign in that “blue” state”.

Facing seemingly limited options for getting to an Electoral College majority, John McCain’s path to victory likely runs through Pennsylvania, a state that no Republican presidential candidate has won in two decades, where he trails in the polls by a wide margin and where in the past year over a half-million new Democrats have been added to the voter registration rolls.

It’s an unenviable position to be in, except for one thing: Nearly everyone in a position to know thinks the race for Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes is considerably tighter than what recent polls reveal.

Blue state Pennsylvania is tight?

“I don’t believe there’s a double-digit lead,” said Jon Delano, a western Pennsylvania-based political analyst who also serves as an adjunct professor of Public Policy and Politics at Carnegie Mellon University. “The history of the presidential elections here is different.”

Even top Democrats concede that McCain’s deficit in the polls—11 percentage points, according to the latest RealClearPolitics polling average—isn’t a solid indicator of his chances of carrying the state. On Tuesday, CNN reported that an anxious Rendell has sent two recent memos to the Obama campaign requesting that the Democratic nominee spend more time campaigning in Pennsylvania.

“The polls don’t necessarily reflect what will happen on Election Day,” said T.J. Rooney, the state Democratic Party chairman. “We’re not a state that’s accustomed to huge blowouts.”

Can McCain win Pennsylvania? He can if he follows the Hillary Clinton strategy.

Rather, the GOP path to victory runs through the socially conservative parts of the state outside the Philadelphia metropolitan region, and bears a strong resemblance to Hillary Clinton’s winning Democratic primary map.

“How do you flip 140,000 votes? You start by cutting in places like Lackawanna and Luzerne counties,” said the McCain campaign source, referring to Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, the traditionally conservative Democratic population hubs of northeastern Pennsylvania. [snip]

“Winning Philadelphia is not enough for a done deal,” said Delano. “Whether it’s Scranton, Erie, Altoona, Johnstown or the Pittsburgh area, this is a big state. What McCain is counting on is that a lot of Democrats who voted once against Barack Obama in the primary will vote against him again.”

Hillary Clinton Democrats are the key to a McCain win:

Western Pennsylvania, many pols believe, seems to hold the most promise for the McCain campaign. McCain expects to run better than Bush in Pittsburgh’s Allegheny County—which Kerry carried by 97,000 votes in 2004—and in southwestern Pennsylvania, where Obama lost to Clinton by landslide margins.

“Democrats who do well in areas like Johnstown, Wilkes-Barre and Pittsburgh are pro-life, pro-gun Democrats like Bob Casey. The Democrats who seem to do poorly in those areas tend to be pro-choice and questionable on guns,” said Brabender. “I think people are going to be shocked by how well McCain is going to do on the western side and in the center part of the state.”

Hillary Clinton Democrats are the key to a McCain win.

The wily Governor of Pennsylvania Ed Rendell is worried.

Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell has written two separate memos to the Obama campaign in recent days begging for Sen. Obama to come back and campaign in his state. In the memos, Rendell, a former Hillary Clinton supporter, admits to being “a little nervous” about Obama’s chances in the Keystone state. Rendell says that the McCain camp is making a strong push for Pennsylvania, with Sen. McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin spending significant time and resources there recently.

Rendell wants Sen. Obama to return to his state and make three appearances to blunt McCain’s momentum. He recommends a visit to what Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA) labeled “racist” Western Pennsylvania, followed by an appearance in the capital of Harrisburg and a “large rally” in Philadelphia. But Obama’s presence alone will not seal the deal, according to Rendell. So he wants the Obama campaign to bring Sen. Clinton and former president Clinton along with him, presumably to smooth things over with Pennsylvania’s small townspeople, whom Obama once derided as “bitter” gun-loving religious zealots.

The Obama campaign has been nervous about Pennsylvania since Clinton trounced Obama by 10 points in the primary there. The selection of Joe Biden as his running mate was as much about Biden’s Scranton roots as it was about his foreign policy experience. And the campaign has good reason to worry. Obama’s own internal polling shows him with only a two-point lead in the state. It’s probably closer than that given that internal polls are notoriously skewed toward the campaign conducing them. If Obama follows Rendell’s advice and makes an emergency swing through Pennsylvania, it will be more telling of Sen. McCain’s chances in the election than any public poll result.

Governor Ed Rendell is no fool. Rendell is nervous for good reason – Pennsylvanians, like most Americans, don’t like to be called “racists“.

Only after the humiliating loss in the Pennsylvania primary did the Obama campaign confessed to problems for arugula Obama in Pennsylvania.

If someone in SF asks you about those “strange rural people in PA”…don’t indulge their liberal, latte drinking bull shit…Just tell them if they want to understand rural and ethnic PA that they should get in the Prius’s and drive down to Bakersfield or any of the other mid state towns in California where there are people who actually lead ordinary lives and care about God and own guns…. [snip]

Bittergate hurt a lot – bc is slowed down and then with the poor debate performance stopped what was truly real closing momentum. [snip]

… we’ve just got to find a way to reach seniors…. [snip]

Working class PA folks, esp those over 45, don’t trust Obama…this is a problem and other than getting them to meet Obama retail style…don’t know how we solve it, unless we can get him to do a quick tour of duty in Iraq…

Now, the problems are leaking out in advance of voting. Obama is ahead in Pennsylvania by only 2% according to private polls conducted for the Obama campaign and leaked to radio talk show host Steve Corbett.

Big Media is working with the Obama campaign to bamboozle Americans.

Americans and the voters of Pennsylvania continue to resist Obama and Big Media.

The bamboozlement continues.

The fight continues. Never give up. NObama. NOvember.

605 thoughts on “Pennsylvania And The Good Ol’ USA

  1. So it comes down to small town, gun toting, bitter Small towns.

    McCain has the momentum and it is his election to lose at this point.

  2. Admin
    Great article
    This race is far from over! I can not wait for the networks to announce McCain stuns Obama in PA on election night while polls across the country are still open.

  3. Oh, I forgot, Racists, gun toting, bitter small towns.

    O has more than one Dem with his foot in his mouth. The Gov of PA and Biden might work well together.

  4. oh admin,

    i hope mccain can pull this out, I WISH MCCAIN WOULD BRING THE WHOLE ‘BITTER SMALL TOWN’ THING BACK TO LIFE… these people need to be reminded of the REAL obama…

    i wonder what you think about our chances…
    do you have hope?

  5. Do you remember how Hillary was so close in Texas? I called people and ask them to vote. She won. He stole the caucus.

    THERE IS NO CAUCUS IN THE GE.

  6. I think the Fraud has bought up most if not all the add time and the stations are not giving the 527’s any air time. Hell NBC announced it was going to align itself with ACORN on election night to report “abuse”. This is scary times. Big Brother is here already…

  7. trying to post it again:

    Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
    By Orson Scott Card

    Editor’s note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism.

    An open letter to the local daily paper — almost every local daily paper in America:

    I remember reading All the President’s Men and thinking: That’s journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

    This housing crisis didn’t come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

    It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

    What is a risky loan? It’s a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

    The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can’t repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can’t make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.

    They end up worse off than before.

    This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

    Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It’s as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

    Isn’t there a story here? Doesn’t journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren’t you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

    I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. “Housing-gate,” no doubt. Or “Fannie-gate.”

    Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

    As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled “Do Facts Matter?” ( http://snipurl.com/457townhall_com%5D ): “Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury.”

    These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was … the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was … the Republican Party.

    Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

    What? It’s not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

    Now let’s follow the money … right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

    And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate’s campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

    If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

    But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an “adviser” to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama’s people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn’t listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

    You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

    If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

    If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

    There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

    If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

    Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That’s what you claim you do, when you accept people’s money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

    But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

    If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth — even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

    Because that’s what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don’t like the probable consequences. That’s what honesty means . That’s how trust is earned.

    Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

    Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored the story of John Edwards’s own adultery for many months.

    So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

    Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

    You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

    That’s where you are right now.

    It’s not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

    If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

    Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation’s prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama’s door.

    You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

    This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

    If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe — and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

    If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not journalists by any standard.

    You’re just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it’s time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a news paper in our city.

    This article first appeared in The Rhinoceros Times of Greensboro, North Carolina, and is used here by permission.

  8. So if, as Obama has now stated (I believe this is his 2nd try at covering his ass on this issue), that any president would probably be tested withing the 1st 6 months…then why bring it up in the first place? Was Biden trying to pump his master up by saying that he was up for the job or was he just putting his foot in his mouth again and stating once again that Obama wasn’t ready and never would be?

    Mr. Obama: your second excuse is as flimsy as your first one was. Onto excuse #3…

  9. I voted today. I am a female Senior Citizen and was indeed excited when Hillary ran for the presidential nomination. She stood for all the things I do and Bill would have been a great asset to her administration. We could have the two for one bargain of the century. But, it wasn’t meant to be. After many days of deep thought, I found I couldn’t vote for McCain as I don’t agree with many of his programs and I couldn’t vote for Obama as I feel he stole the nomination from Hillary without the credentials to do the job. So, I did what I felt was right even though it doesn’t count. I wrote in Hillary Clinton. I don’t know why but it made me feel good and I feel it was the only thing I could do and live with myself. I considered not voting at all, but there were people running that I wanted to make sure I covered and agenda of interest. I can’t imagine that they have a vote only allowing a man and woman to make a lifetime commitment. Why does the government feel they have the right to make laws about love? With money buying the presidency and votes against love, I am very confused about the American dream.

  10. That clip breaks my heart.

    When he could barely bring himself to speak about his wife and kids . . . his lower lip quivering, his voice breaking . . .

    How anyone in their right mind can vote for BO over this real hero is completely beyond my comprehension.

  11. Wow! Such lovely names we Pennsylvanians are being called these days, lol.

    I’m almost afraid to admit I am one, lol. It’s funny, in all my 62 years, I’ve never been called any of these names. Why? Because they don’t fit most Pennsylvanians, no matter what Bambi would like everyone to believe.

    Then Obama comes along and viola! We are racist, rednecks, bitter, turning to our guns and religion.

    Well, I don’t own a gun, but what is wrong with religion? I have always been against guns myself until I’ve seen Obama at work. Now I see that I’ve been wrong about owning guns. I still don’t like the things, but when I think that he could take away that constitutional right and he and his thugs would be left in charge of us, that made me change my mind.

    For all of you wondering if Bambi will take PA. My guess would be a resounding, NO. I don’t believe the polls for one thing and for another, Admin is right in that we don’t like to be called these names. I think most Pennsylvanians are still remembering the “bitter” remarks and now with Murtha’s “racist” and “redneck” comments added to it, I can’t believe the people would turn around and vote for the nitwit.

  12. Bluegirl, I just read that the republican running against Murtha, a retired Colonel, didn’t expect to have any chance at all, and it started more as a protest, but now it is looking like he just might have a chance, he decided to do a poll and he isn’t that far behind. Do you hear anything about that there?

  13. Bluegirl: I’m with you. I don’t like be called names either and I’m from eastern PA.

    Like you, I’m not convinced BO will take PA. People around here are very concerned about his ideas and associations and think he’s way too liberal… including the traditional Democrats. If he doesn’t run up the count in Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Scranton, Wilkes Barre and Pittsburgh (and I think Murtha’s helping there!), I think McCain can win it.

  14. Lin 67, I haven’t heard anything here. I live in the central part of PA, but when they were showing Murtha on Fox (I think), they then showed a clip of his opponent. I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if Murtha lost. What was that man thinking? LOL

    PaminPA, I will be very surprised if bambi wins PA and will be very disappointed if he does. Around here, I’m really not seeing very many signs in people’s yards, but the ones I do see are mostly of McCain/Palin. There are only a few Obama signs.

    My one sister had Hillary signs on her front doors and yard during the primary, but now she is sticking with the party, but she doesn’t even have one Obama sign out, lol. She is angry with me because I’ve gone to McCain since bambi stole everything away from Hillary.

  15. When I learned Bob Casey was supporting bambi, I sent Casey an email and told him I would never again vote for him. I really gave him a piece of my mind, and told him just what I thought of Obama, lol.

    I thought I would have gotten an email acknowledging my email to him, but never heard a peep.

  16. Todays my birthday and I’ve made a decision on what will be best for my country by wishing for the best

  17. Lin67, I came back in here to let you know they just had Murtha’s opponent on Hannity and I thought he said one poll actually has him ahead now, lol. It serves Murtha right.

  18. Murtha is an embarrassment to the state of PA! I sent a contribution to Bill Russell when he announced his candidacy because I was so disgusted with Murtha’s trashing of the Marines. Now, every time Murtha opens his mouth and makes another ridiculous declaration, I send more money to Russell. (At this rate, I’m going to go broke!)

    Bluegirl: I live in Chester county (20 miles west of Phila) and my sister is in Bucks county (20 miles north of Phila) and she’s hearing the same thing. Both counties would have easily gone to HRC but BHO requires too much of a leap of faith. I also think that Ed Rendell’s soft endorsement of BHO isn’t helping any, especially after his enthusiastic endorsement of HRC. Remember when he was on TV talking her up ALL the time. After BHO loses the state, I suspect Ed’s going to sit back and say, ‘I told you so’.

    Are you hearing anything negative about Sarah in central PA? I’m not hearing anything here but have been noticing articles claiming she’s a liability?!? Of course, these articles are from the the biased media so I don’t put much credence in them. I’m not sure whether the media is savvy enough to realize that she was added to the ticket to ensure the base was solid given McCain’s perceived moderate ways.

    We’ll be away for the election so we already sent in our absentee ballots… add 2 more to the McCain/Palin tally.

  19. Shenanigans,

    I just read the editorial by Orson Scott Card, which was listed on the Drudge Report. Orson Scott Card is apparently still a Mormon, as he was born, but also a Democrat, not a Dimocrat, and a newspaper reporter! He also wrote one of my son’s and daughter’s all-time favorite works of science fiction, “Ender’s Game.” It’s the first in a series. Orson Scott Card is brilliant, and I love this editorial!

  20. rjk, I never thought of that. I guess that’s what my hubby is watching in the den.

    I’m not much of a sports fan.

  21. PaminPA,

    I really don’t get to talk to that many people, but I haven’t heard anything negative about Sarah here.

    My one son lived all around Philly for about 10 years, but lives in NJ now, just across the river from Manhatten. We used to go to Philly alot when he lived nearby. I live about 40 miles from State College. There are a couple of families that live here that were from Bucks County. One family moved here years ago and then friends of theirs moved here shortly after.

    I know if Rendell could run again, he would not get my vote. I know he supported Hillary, but when he went on to support bambi, then he lost me. I am so thouroughly disgusted with the Dems right now, so I’m voting straight Repub. lol.

  22. rjk, I was right my hubby is watching the series. I just asked him if the Phillies are winning 3-0 and he said yes. I’m not into sports, but have been to a few Phillies games, but not for years. I do root for them though.

    My husband and sons are all Phillies, Flyers, and Eagles fans.

  23. Bluegirl:
    I was born and raised in NJ and still have a vacation home there. Coincidentally, I was driving up from the shore today and didn’t see one presidential sign, not one in over 60 miles. Plenty of signs for the local races. I wonder what that’s about… not that the outcome in NJ will be any surprise.

  24. 41 College educated, mesculin green eating, Western Pennsylvanian, gay, don’t own a gun, pro-choice, former democrat(as of Nov 5) pulling my first lever for a Republican on Nov 4. Of the 10 members of my immediate family registered democrat to vote 1 for bambi, 1 staying home and eight for McCain. All live in PA.

  25. PaminPA, we used to go to the Jersey shore. We mostly went to Wildwood, but for the past several years, we’ve been taking to the Smoky Mountains in TN instead.

    There haven’t been many signs around here either or other towns we’ve been through recently. I’ve seen more local signs than presidential also. I’ve also seen more McCain than Obama signs. Now that’s a good sign, lol.

  26. Henry:
    I hear you. It’s not easy being abandoned by your party, is it? You almost feel like a part of your identity is being taken away… which, I guess, is exactly what’s happening.
    I honestly believe that the majority of Americans are fairly moderate, so why are we being represented by these extremes? As if Pelosi and Reid weren’t enough, we could end up with BHO and a filibuster proof senate… with NO checks and balances… a very frightening prospect.

  27. Henry,

    I was orginally going to stay home, but then thought that would just be making bambi one step closer to winning so decided to vote for McCain. I then talked my hubby into doing the same and now we are both voting straight Repub.

    My one son was going to stay home, but now he’s decided to go and vote for McCain.

  28. I don’t know why so many people are trashing Sarah so. I remember how they all trashed Hillary and now they are doing it to Sarah. Women still have a long way to go. I was hoping to see a woman president in my lifetime, but now I’m thinking that may not happen.

  29. Just Me. Happy Birthday.

    So, if people are unwilling to declare by lawn signs who they support at the national level, why should they be willing to tell the truth when asked by a pollster. I think peoples preferences are being held very close to the vest.

  30. NewMexicoFan:
    I think you’re absolutely right about people keeping their voting preference private. We had a convasser come to our door the other night (it’s almost a bi-weekly event here) and my husband answered the door. He said they were decked out in BHO shirts, BHO hats and BHO pins. When asked who he was voting for, he responded that he preferred not to discuss it. (You would have thought that would be telling, but the canvassers persisted, so he closed the door.)
    Now, had I answered the door….

  31. I canvassed western PA. It was somewhat Hillary friendly, not very BO friendly. Mostly, they were Republicans!

  32. Thank you my Hill friends! McCain wasn’t who convinced me it was you all despite my family, friends, and loved one all are angry with me for swaying away. But it was you all that stood there for me and made me not feel alone but part of the family. Its not easy but you made it easy. Gov. Palin just made it slightly easier to vote for McCain/Palin.

  33. # PaminPA Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Henry:
    I hear you. It’s not easy being abandoned by your party, is it? You almost feel like a part of your identity is being taken away… which, I guess, is exactly what’s happening.
    I honestly believe that the majority of Americans are fairly moderate, so why are we being represented by these extremes? As if Pelosi and Reid weren’t enough, we could end up with BHO and a filibuster proof senate… with NO checks and balances… a very frightening prospect.
    ————–
    I agree. I think that’s the point we need to drive home now. That there has to be a balance to the government. With a democratic majority and fillibuster…we are all doomed.

  34. I think the Fraud has bought up most if not all the add time and the stations are not giving the 527’s any air time. Hell NBC announced it was going to align itself with ACORN on election night to report “abuse”. This is scary times. Big Brother is here already…
    ——————————————–
    gonzo: I dont know whether to send you a six pack, a bottle of malox or some laughing gas. Courage. It is always darkest before the dawn. Chicken Little–the sky is falling in. You too Independent. You guys are like a tag team. Your earlier comment today about everybody here being depressed, etc. Dont you think we got one victory coming to us just by the law of averages. If I am wrong you can tell me so on election night but in the meantime-courage.

  35. Some potential news on Berg v Obama.

    Amerciasright is reporting that they’re expecting a ruling from Judge Surrick on Thursday or Friday.

  36. reutgers saying BO has opened a double digit lead against McCain. WTF is wrong with people, do they want this to become a communist nation. Why is Putin getting ships down to Venezuela?? People just aren’t listening!

  37. wbboei: We have our own eeyores on this site. Visit Hillbuzz, and they talk about the “eeyores.” Helped to reframe the issue.

  38. confloyd: How do you go from 2% ahead to double digits overnight? Is this a national poll? Visit Hillbuzz, and read Admin’s posting on polling.

  39. 41 College educated, mesculin green eating, Western Pennsylvanian, gay, don’t own a gun, pro-choice, former democrat(as of Nov 5) pulling my first lever for a Republican on Nov 4. Of the 10 members of my immediate family registered democrat to vote 1 for bambi, 1 staying home and eight for McCain. All live in PA.
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    henry: they still have the Log Cabin Republicans do they not?

  40. Mariaconz

    welcome back…missed you.
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    wbboei

    Michael Savage on 1520 Okie City station reading Yeats’ Second Coming and then riffing on his usual hates.

  41. PaminPa
    I am also one of the newly registered Dems in PA and I did it expressly to vote for Clinton. Just moved from NYC, where by the way the redneck that I am voted twice for Dinkins, and had planned on registering as an independent. The majority of legitimate new registrations were probably for waffles but I’d bet a significant number of R’s switched parties to keep one or the other of the two candidates out. If I remember correctly McCain had a lock before the deadline arrived to switch parties.

  42. PaminPA Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
    Some potential news on Berg v Obama.

    Amerciasright is reporting that they’re expecting a ruling from Judge Surrick on Thursday or Friday.
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    Interesting> I assume he is ruling on the motion to dismiss. If he rules in favor of Berg then things could get interesting, since the defendant failed to respond to the request for admissions in a timely manner. Since today in Wednesday, I guess that means there will be a decision tomorrow or the next day. Similar cases pending in Washington and Hawaii.

  43. Michael Savage on 1520 Okie City station reading Yeats’ Second Coming and then riffing on his usual hates
    ——————————————-
    Emjay: so nice to hear Michael is in a gothic mood. He is beautiful when he is gothic.

  44. littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31651_Zombie-_Billy_Ayers_Forgotten_Communist_Manifesto_Prairie_Fire
    Zombie: Billy Ayers’ Forgotten Communist Manifesto, ‘Prairie Fire’
    Politics | Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19:08 pm PST
    In an exclusive report linked here for the first time, Zombie has acquired a copy of a long-forgotten book by Barack Obama associate Bill Ayers, wife Bernardine Dohrn, and two other Weather Underground members, dedicated to RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan, written while they were in hiding from the authorities: William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire

  45. wbboei
    Yes, they still exist. I plan on registering independent after the election as neither party represents me. I guess I have become a moderate. And as such feel that I must vote straight Rep on a national level as I am terrified of a bambi/Dem congress.

  46. I keep thinking of Truman
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    Pendergast machine nothwithstanding he was one of us. He knew how to deal with doug out doug.

  47. Greta reported that there is now a list of 3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers.

    I think their teaching licenses should all be revoked asap!

  48. Happy birthday, JustMe and many more.

    I like the slogan, “Truman in a skirt!” for Palin. That says it all.

    By the way, my daughter has been LURKING AND reading our posts. She and her little family are pro-McCain/Palin. I sent her my pink McCain/Palin tshirt from the Palin Rally at the Villages here. My grandson wore it [I said but it is PINKKKK!] when he and his wife went out to eat with his in-laws who are pro-nObama -because he is nObama is PRO-CHOICE!!PPPPPPPPPPPeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkke!

  49. “eeyores
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    are they working for bambi or putin? It may be a distinction without a difference.

  50. 3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers
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    So bombing the capital is now a core tenant of academic freedom?

  51. bluegirl Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
    Lin67, I came back in here to let you know they just had Murtha’s opponent on Hannity and I thought he said one poll actually has him ahead now, lol. It serves Murtha right.
    ====

    Yay! I can’t stomach Murtha after what he said about the marines. It’s time for him to retire. He’s been in there 30 years anyway.

  52. JanH Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
    Greta reported that there is now a list of 3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers.

    I think their teaching licenses should all be revoked asap!

    ==============================================

    And for those 3,000, one would be able to find 3,000 others, who do not support Ayers. He is a radical, and promotes a radicalized agenda. I wouldn’t trust him, as far as I could throw him. He should be in prison, along with Bernadine. Anyone who would dedicate a book to Sirhan Sirhan doesn’t deserve to be an educator of our young people.

  53. justme

    Happy Birthday !!!!
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    wbboei

    I’ll pitch in a bit for gonzo’s sixpack.
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    Everyone

    Listening to the former and present CEOs of bonding-rating houses like Moody’s, Standard & Poor, etc., this afternoon was eerily like the day the tobacco companies’ CEOs raised their hands and swore that tobacco had no negative effects on the human body.

  54. dickhead morris is right for once–

    Obama’s lingering problem is that with all his money, he does not have anything new to say. He has been repeating the same mantra for his campaign over and over again ever since the spring. By now, we all know that he wants to extend health insurance to “47 million Americans” (never mind that 10 million are here illegally) and cut taxes for “95 percent of the population” (never mind that half don’t pay any taxes to begin with and the “tax cut” is really just a welfare check).

    McCain’s advertising is powering a bold new message, inspired by Joe the plumber: Obama will use the tax code to redistribute wealth.

    The social populist backlash against his proposals is closing the lead that Obama opened up as a result of the financial crisis. With things calmer on Wall Street (our fingers tremble as we write this), voters have two weeks to ponder what the onset of a socialist presidency would mean for Americans.

    McCain has enough money to punch his message through. It will not get drowned by a sea of Obama media. But McCain’s supporters must realize that this race is far from over. There is a realistic chance that he can win. And if there was ever a time for his supporters to open up their checkbooks, it is now.

  55. What can we do to correct the problems with the media bias and still protect freedom of speech?

    What can we do to make sure there is one person one vote?

    What can we do to limit corporate influence in congress and the administration?

    What can we do to make the elections fair to ALL those who seek to run regardless of party affiliation

    How can we make it so third parties can compete on an equal playing field with the 2 major parties.

    What can we do to make our elected officials more accountable and their actions more transparent to the people they serve?

    What can we do? These are serious questions that need answers!
    This election has exposed more than just flaws in our registration and voting system.
    Our voices are being drowned out by polls and pundits.
    After this election I hope ADMIN will guide us to find the solutions so that we can’t fix these problems.
    I hope we can all stay together to fight the powers that wish to silence us.

  56. MUST READ;
    worldnetdaily.com
    Jerome Corsi,author
    View video’ of ties with Obama and Odinga filmed in Kenya. The America tax dollars invested into the Odinga campaign will be seen.
    Two weeks prior to our election TV ads will target Ob ties to Kenya radicals posted on 10/21.
    The Freedom Defense Fund is the entity planning to air the tapes in the battleground states. It can be realized after viewing all the tapes what is possible to happen after 6 months in office of the next President, Ob or Mc.

    Hawaii–Interesting. Ob suddenly took off leaving the campaign. Maybe never to be seen again.
    I am a democrat voting a straight Rep. ticket for the first time in my life.

  57. Lest anyone forget…and I seldom see it mentioned, William Ayers would probably still be in prison if the FBI had not screwed up and unlawfully collected evidence against him.

    The Judge was compelled to rule that the prosector dismiss the charges…tainted evidence, fruit of the whatever and all that. Bernadine (Bernadette) was convicted and sentenced…she ran but turned herself in several years after, or somesuch.

    Anyway as a convicted felon, she had, and still has some employment problems.

    Her husband is not tainted in that manner, especially at the U of Chicago. Don’t recall if he ever got tenure though.

  58. EmJay: Wm. Ayers works at the University of Illinois, at Chicago. Please correct me, if I am wrong. He is working at a state supported school, which I find unconscionable. If he didn’t have a rich father, and the FBI didn’t f*ck up, he would be in jail. I’m not sure, if he has tenure or not. Bernadette (thank you for the correction) is a law school professor. Imagine that. She cannot practice law, but she can teach it. She also benifitted from Ayers connections.

  59. But if the Phillys win the series, it follows that a Repub will win the Whitehouse…well, it happened the last time the Philly’s won…hehehehe

    Also, capitulation is beginning to show itself in the stock mkt.

    A good sign, a very good sign.

  60. bird

    he is a prof at the University of Chicage, home to many rabble rousers, past and present, in education, economics and a few other departments.

    It’s a private university.

  61. Today here in Central Florida McCain ran the empty chair ad, saying that Obama is too inexperienced to sit in that chair, and one other one that I really liked as well. But there are tons of ads for nObama that smear McCain.

    I could name about a dozen or more teachers who would sign a peitition against Ayers……..and they would know others.

  62. At Northwestern, where my parents went, and met, during the Great Depression, it is still said that U of Chicago is home to the biggest bunch of kooks and Nobel Laureats than anywhere (I would include a second location at this point in time: U of California -Berkeley.)

  63. Emjay: LOL! I live in Northern CA, and I would agree with U of Ca at Berkeley. Good school, but lots of kooks and latte liberals.

  64. How Obama Accepts those Funky Donations

    Wednesday, October 22, 2008
    My Friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs Figured it all out:

    WHO IS JOHN GALT? A CONTRIBUTOR TO COLLECTIVIST OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN, OF COURSE!~

    There is enormous amount of money being secreted into the Obama campaign from foreign sources.
    It is fairly safe to say these countries will be richly rewarded – Kenya, Indonesia but most of all – Obama will drop a load on the UN. Fosho. The crooked, corrupt international one world global warmers have the largest stake in this election.

    Back on August 14th, I wrote that Julia Gorin told me a funny story. About four months ago. Her husband’s co-worker wanted to see what would happen if he tried giving a contribution to the Obama campaign via a credit card. He used his Macy’s card. The system accepted it. He tried the same with McCain’s campaign, and the transaction wouldn’t go through.

    KEEP READING THIS!!!!!!

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-obama-accepts-those-funky-donations.html

  65. bird

    and Nobel winners…

    I used to schlep out to Berk and Livermore a lot from Iowa, of all places, cause I worked for one of the original National Labs.

    Told wbboei one time…I used to take rooms in one of the houses across the street from the U of SF Med School Hospitals… perfect location to get public transport to either location- the BART ?

  66. Obama’s donor credit card fraud problem
    By Michelle Malkin • October 22, 2008 10:19 AM

    More than a week ago, a north Kansas City couple blew the whistle on credit card fraud benefiting the Obama campaign.

    Investigative journalist Ken Timmerman has uncovered more:

    What do Bart Simpson, Family Guy, Daffy Duck, King Kong, O.J. Simpson, and Raela Odinga have in common?

    All are celebrities; and with the exception of Odinga and O.J. Simpson, they also are fictional characters. And yet, all of them gave money earlier this month to the campaign of Barack Obama, without any apparent effort by the campaign to screen them out as suspect donors.

    …The Obama campaign has turned a blind eye to the possibility of donor fraud. Reportedly, during the heated primary battle with Hillary Clinton, the Obama campaign “turned off” many of the security features on its online donor page, allowing any person with a valid credit card number to donate using any name or address.

    Typically, card merchants require a cardholder’s name to match critical personal details, such as an address or, at the least, a ZIP code.

    Though in recent months the Obama campaign has tightened up security and restored some of the security features used by merchants to weed out fraud, it still has left open easy ways for potential credit card fraud, including techniques similar to those employed by terrorists and drug traffickers to launder illicit funds.

    For example, on Oct. 14, an individual using the name “O.J. Simpson” participated in Obama’s latest small-donor fundraising drive, making a $5 donation through the campaign’s Web site.

    Giving a Los Angeles address, he listed his employer as the “State of Nevada” and his occupation as “convict.” The donor used a disposable “gift” credit card to make the donation.

    The Obama campaign sent O.J. a thank-you note confirming his contribution, and gave him the name of another donor who had agreed to “match” his contribution.

    Four minutes earlier, an individual using the name “Raela Odinga” also made a $5 contribution, using the same credit card.

    The real Raela Odinga became prime minister of Kenya in April and has claimed to be a cousin of Obama’s through a maternal uncle…

  67. We knew it was happening dj, but this post makes it clear and simple as to the how ?

    Don’t even like Michelle Malkin, but hope this mini expose’ helps her make it to yhe big time media, even if merely as a “source”

  68. Emjay….. I knew it was happening too, just didn’t know how

    did you read the first one i posted from yidwithlid? it goes into more depth and is supported by screen shots of
    obama’s website during the transactions!!

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-obama-accepts-those-funky-donations.html

  69. here is just a portion ob BMERRY’s article put up today on therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    THIS ARTICLE OUTLINES EVEN MORE RADICAL/MULIM RELATIONSHIPS WITH OBAMA!

    Obama’s Muslim “outreach” problems. Coincidental? Get real!
    October 22, 2008

    SNIP

    Blogger Bill Baar forwarded an article by Tom Mannis at Rogers Park Bench about Barack Obama’s “strong ties” to Sunrise Equities, a Chicago investment company that shut down in August after ripping off investors for a total of approximately $80 million. Sunrise’s CEO, Salman Ibrahim, Vice President Amjed Mahmood, and Vice President (Community Relations) Mohammad Akbar Zahid “vanished” and, as Mannis reports, the “money seems to have gone with them. Now, the Illinois Secretary of State and the FBI are investigating the scandal.”

    About 150 investors, mostly Muslim, learned in August that they had lost all of their savings to the Sunrise Equities fraud. Sunrise Equities, a shariah-compliant investment firm, targeted investors who were mostly Pakistani Muslim immigrants. Many the victims took out home-equity loans to make ends meet.

    What does this all have to do with Obama? For starters, Mannis writes:

    For years, Ibrahim and his associates have been heavily involved in Democrat Party political affairs. Ibrahim donated to Barack Obama and to Joe Biden, Local Democrats, such as 49th Ward Alderman Joe Moore and 50th Ward Alderman Bernie Stone, benefited as well.

    But is that all? Nope. Never. Mannis adds:

    Barack Obama has long had strong ties to Muslims and to Pakistanis. He also has long and strong ties to Sunrise Equities and Salman Ibrahim.

    Obama wanted a satellite fundraising office in the “Devon Corridor,” the largely Indian-Pakistani section of Chicago’s West Ridge neighborhood on the north side. Salman Ibrahim was happy to help. Free office space was given to Obama’s campaign within Sunrise’s general offices at 6355 N. Claremont. Obama has long wooed Muslim voters, and did not have a physical presence in this part of Chicago, so the Sunrise location made logistical sense for Obama. It also made sense for Ibrahim and Sunrise as an effort to curry favor with rising star Barack Obama.

    In 2004, Sunrise Investments gave Barack Obama free office space during his run for US Senate. The Bench has photographs of the ribbon-cutting ceremony. Clearly seen in the photos is Barack Obama and Salman Ibrahim.

    Nor is Mannis’s story finished: “Part Two of this story will examine Obama’s connections to Salman Ibrahim and Sunrise Equities.”

    please be sure to read the entire thing!!!!

  70. I see that Sarah Palin is a liability to McCain.

    I don’t think that’s the case in Missouri. We were going to see McCain in Belton Monday, but my daughter’s car broke down and we got into a mess.

    My hubby says Palin will be in Springfield Friday (at 2:00 PM today) So I called for tickets that were available after 9AM today. The lady told me she was really sorry but every ticket was claimed by 10:30 AM. I am unsure how large the arena is at Springfield State University. Still, she mustn’t be that big of a liability if all the tickets are gone in an hour and a half.

  71. Bernadette (thank you for the correction) is a law school professor. Imagine that. She cannot practice law, but she can teach it. She also benifitted from Ayers connections.
    ——————————————-
    So Ayers wife cannot practice law because she was a terrorist, but can teach it.

    At first blush that may seem like a contradiction, but really it is not.

    As Justice Holmes once said: “if you want to know what the law is don’t ask a judge–ask a thief.”

  72. THIS ARTICLE OUTLINES EVEN MORE RADICAL/MULIM RELATIONSHIPS WITH OBAMA!

    Obama’s Muslim “outreach” problems. Coincidental? Get real!
    October 22, 2008

    SNIP

    Blogger Bill Baar forwarded an article by Tom Mannis at Rogers Park Bench about Barack Obama’s “strong ties” to Sunrise Equities, a Chicago investment company that shut down in August after ripping off investors for a total of approximately $80 million. Sunrise’s CEO, Salman Ibrahim, Vice President Amjed Mahmood, and Vice President (Community Relations) Mohammad Akbar Zahid “vanished” and, as Mannis reports, the “money seems to have gone with them. Now, the Illinois Secretary of State and the FBI are investigating the scandal.”
    —————————————–
    That big media would be trying everything possible to shove this guy down our throats is just plain mind-boggling.

  73. I highly suggest that if you all have not been to therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ before or for a while

    it’s high time to get over there………they have A LOT of really great stuff over there!

    and i am sures…….it all needs help getting out all over the net!

  74. Wyatt Earp: I never met a man who required so much self-defending. (referring to an infamous outlaw, who killed a man in a gunfight and then claimed self defense).

    Well. . . . he never met barack obama

  75. my youngest son is named after wyatt earp and Jesse James
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    that is cool djia. I assume you narrowed it down to two of those four names? What are the two names selected?

  76. PBS is planning to air a negative segment about Sarah Palin. They have sent this to only DEMS. We got hold of it. PLEASE, vote. It takes a second.

    Thank you.

    Sarah Palin–PBS vote

    PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the left wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with NO votes.

    The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters in swing states.

    Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.

    1) Click on link and vote YES!

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

    2) Then send this to every McCain-Palin supporter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.

  77. October 23, 2008
    Long National Nightmare
    By Steven Stark

    Last night, I woke up in a sweat. I’d had a very bizarre dream . . .

    NOVEMBER 5 — There was Wilson over Hughes. And, of course, Truman over Dewey. But there’s never been a surprise in presidential politics like the one that awaited Americans this morning, who woke up to discover that, somehow, John McCain had been elected president over Barack Obama.

    Not a single poll, tracking or otherwise, had McCain ahead. The articles had all been written: Michael Scherer of Time, “McCain’s Struggles: Four Ways He Went Wrong”; Jonathan Alter of Newsweek, “We’re Heading Left Once Again”; and Joan Vennochi of the Boston Globe, “That’s It for McCain.” To be fair to them, it was hard to find a single major pundit anywhere who predicted McCain would win — though the astute Michael Barone, author of The Almanac of American Politics, did pen a column 17 days before the vote warning that a surprise was possible. Given Barone’s credentials, someone should have listened.

    Of course, Wednesday-morning quarterbacking is ridiculously easy, but in retrospect, what happened should have been crystal clear: Obama’s lead was never as great as the media hype that accompanied it — he only led by two to six points in some major tracking polls. In several of them, Obama tellingly never cleared 50 percent. (There was a larger-than-usual undecided vote.) And whether it was the so-called “Bradley effect” (suggesting a racial element to the vote) or something else, Obama performed last night exactly as he often had in the spring against Hillary Clinton: he ran below expectations.

    Meanwhile, the tsunami of youth support for Obama never materialized. Instead, it was the over-65 crowd who turned out as if the election were a five-o’clock dinner special, and who voted in record numbers for their fellow senior citizen.

    “It was fear of the known versus fear of the unknown — and fear won out,” quipped one McCain aide.

    In the campaign’s final days, as the financial crisis that had boosted Obama in mid September seemed to fade somewhat, McCain found his voice, constantly challenging Obama on taxes. In contrast, Obama essentially took victory laps, promising to “change the world” and drawing huge crowds. He outspent his rival exponentially; even General Colin Powell endorsed him. Meanwhile, his supporters freely gave self-congratulatory interviews to a willing media. The press reported his transition team was already meeting. Cabinet lists were drawn up. Newsweek wondered how “President Obama” would govern. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and other Capitol Hill leaders announced their ambitious plans for the first 100 days; Jesse Jackson promised that the country’s policies toward Israel would soon change.

    It was the “Feiler Faster Thesis,” popularized by Slate blogger Mickey Kaus (and credited to author Bruce Feiler, who wrote Walking the Bible), in action. In an era of short memories and even shorter attention spans, it almost appeared as if Obama was already the incumbent. So, in a time of unrest, voters kicked that incumbent out — after all of a month.

    The ugly surprise
    At first, it wasn’t evident that something extraordinary was brewing last evening. The polls in Virginia closed at 7 pm Eastern time, and that race was too close to call (no surprise there) since, even though Obama was favored in the Old Dominion State, George W. Bush had carried it by eight points both elections.

    But by 8 pm, it began to become apparent that the blowout some in the media and the Obama camp had been predicting might not be materializing. New Hampshire — where pre-election polls had seen Obama up 10 points — was too close to call, a repeat of what had happened almost a year before in the primary between Obama and Clinton. Missouri and Ohio were also too close to call, with McCain showing unexpected strength among working-class and Catholic voters. Just as in 2004, Florida was showing unexpected strength for the Republicans, despite the housing crisis. Then Minnesota began to report and, in a huge surprise, that race, too, was too close to call.

    Eventually, McCain won New Hampshire, Florida, Missouri, and Ohio. And he sealed his narrow victory in the Electoral College by winning out west in Colorado — and Nevada for good measure.

    “Colorado was the key,” said one GOP official early this morning. “It wasn’t pretty, but we always thought we could surprise there. Bush won it by almost five points last time. And an anti-affirmative action proposition on the ballot brought out our voters.”

    Obama conceded around noon today, promising that, though the revolution he promised had been temporarily derailed, “we are the future.” Right now, however, the immediate future belongs to John McCain.

    Whoa, that was scary! Note to self: never listen to Limbaugh before bed time . . .

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/long_national_nightmare.html

  78. # debbie Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Justme

    Happy Birthday from one October baby to another..All the best!!!
    **************************

    Me too!

  79. birdgal Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    And for those 3,000, one would be able to find 3,000 others, who do not support Ayers. He is a radical, and promotes a radicalized agenda. I wouldn’t trust him, as far as I could throw him. He should be in prison, along with Bernadine. Anyone who would dedicate a book to Sirhan Sirhan doesn’t deserve to be an educator of our young people.

    ****************************************************************************
    shouldn’t surprise anyone that robert kennedy jr. and kathleen kennedy townsend endorsed HRC.

  80. oklahomahills Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:48 am
    # debbie Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
    Justme
    Happy Birthday from one October baby to another..All the best!!!
    *************************************************
    all these october birthday’s. maybe we should pitch-in and send a birthday present to our favorite october birthday gal. maybe an assortment of McCain Palin signs for her chappaqua yard?

  81. Me: Mid 40’s, college educated, lifelong democrat…started off as a liberal, ended up as a centrist by my early 30’s. I’m pro-choice , pro strong military , pro-civil and human rights , pro- free speech , pro-universal healthcare, anti- affirmative action (as it currently exists), anti-welfare (as it currently exists), and I support stronger gun regulations (especially wrt to gunshow sales) despite the fact that I am a gun owner.

    This year I became an Independent. And I wonder why I didn’t do this sooner. Ideologically, I haven’t been a “democrat” for many years, and I’ve never been a “republican” in terms of ideology. To be honest, I stopped towing the “party line” about 10 years ago, and learned to think for myself. I wouldn’t go back for all the tea in China.

    Both parties engage in ideological blackmail. It’s a power grab to lock up voter blocs. I’m not a “bloc” , I’m an individual. If a political party wants my vote…they have to earn it. No counting on me anymore because there is no “d” or “r” or “l” after my name.

  82. # wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am

    my youngest son is named after wyatt earp and Jesse James
    ————————————–
    that is cool djia. I assume you narrowed it down to two of those four names? What are the two names selected?
    ____________________________
    Wyatt James 😀

  83. PROOF the PRIMARIES were a FRAUD
    only 4 pledged delegates separated HRC and BO
    (although now HRC has once again involked the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ at an Al Franken rally I’m no sto sure it matters)

    from rabble rouser at NQ

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/22/breaking-the-numbers-dont-lie-but-the-dnc-does/

  84. To keep in mind for after the election. We need an overhaul of the electoral system and everything that goes with it. Do we still need the electoral college?

    On my ballot were 46 judges vying for 23 judicial seats. Now nobody who doesn’t live in the courthouse can possible know 23 judge aspirants.
    That means that whoever can get their ads on TV can win. That means that judges have to get money. Where are they getting the money? To whom are they beholden? And how do we decide between judges who get support because they do a good job and those who get support from interest groups because they aren’t so impartial? We should have some mechanism to rate these judges for us and take them out of the campaign contribution game.

    Then there are the machines — I used one for the first time and it was pretty good. Then there are the secs. of state — too many Katherine Harris types.

    Then there are caucuses which should be abolished on a federal level and restricted to fields under 100 thousand or less. We might restrict the time period in which a candidate can raise or spend money. Let’s clean up the system we have allowed to turn into a sewer. And maybe we should have a no-tolerance philosophy — violate the rules and you’re out.

    How about a voting convention on voting?

    P.S. Who gave O 150 million dollars? And why?

  85. Idunn

    I agree. I called myself a D, but I knew there were things that I agreed with the Rs in and there were areas that the Ds were just too liberal in. I believe in everyone eligible being allowed to vote, and making it easy. I don’t believe in one person voting 15 times, or bringing in bus loads of people to an area, registering them, letting them vote, and then busing them home.

    I had always felt I would vote for the person, but had never ventured out of the D area. I guess I should be sorry I got so involved, but had I not, I fear that I would not know what I know now.

    The Ds did not deserve my loyalty, and I will no longer give it.

    Some of my D friends are finding this hard to accept. In fact, they kinda slam me, like you are just bitter that HRC did not win. When I jump on them for that, and say, have you checked out his Illinois legisltive record, or his Senatorial record? They say NO. Do you know who he runs around with, the response is, they are all crooks. I reply, they are crooks because you allow them to be crooks.

    Anyway, I do not challenge them, I simply state who I am supporting, and then find them making some sort of cut at me to justify what they are doing.

    However, I do have a number who are going with me to vote for McCain. In my own little circle that % is higher than what they are predicting. Is this true country wide? I guess we will know on election day in November.

  86. news.aol.com/elections/article/first-ladys-role-vague-but-pressure-high/221554?icid=200100397x1212112495x1200701213

    Vote for Cindy McCain as the Best First Lady.

    I find this vote to be stupid, but I really do think a women who has run a successful company, has the experience to run the White House.

    Unfortunately, MOs career has been contrived for her, upped every level a her husband’s career has advanced. That does not qualitfy her for First Lady. Of course I feel his career has been contrived also.

  87. From Charleston WV News

    Values matter in an American president
    Thursday October 23, 2008

    APPARENTLY there is something about Sarah Palin that causes some people to think of her as either the best of candidates or the worst of candidates. She draws enthusiastic crowds and provokes visceral hostility in the media.
    The issue that is raised most often is her relative lack of experience and the fact that she would be “a heartbeat away from the presidency” if Sen. John McCain were elected.
    But Barack Obama has even less experience – none in an executive capacity – and his would itself be the heartbeat of the presidency if he were elected.
    Palin’s record is on the record, while whole years of Obama’s life are engulfed in fog, and he has had to explain away one after another of the astounding and vile people he has not merely “associated” with but has had political alliances with, and to whom he has directed the taxpayers’ money and other money.
    Palin has had executive experience – and the White House is the executive branch of government. We don’t have to judge her by her rhetoric because she has a record.
    We don’t know what Barack Obama will actually do, because he has actually done very little for which he was personally accountable. Even as a state legislator, he voted “present” innumerable times instead of taking a stand one way or the other on tough issues.
    “Clean up the mess in Washington”?
    He was part of the mess in Chicago and lined up with the Daley machine against reformers.
    He is also part of the mess in Washington, not only with numerous earmarks, but also as the Senate’s second largest recipient of money from Fannie Mae, and someone whose campaign has this year sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines, who was at the heart of the subprime crisis.
    Why, then, the enthusiasm for Obama and the hostility to Sarah Palin in the media?
    One reason of course is that Obama is ideologically much closer to the views of the media than is Palin.
    But there is more to it than that. There are other conservative politicians who do not evoke such anger, spite and hate.
    Palin is the one real outsider among the four candidates for the presidency and vice-presidency on the Republican and Democratic tickets.
    Her whole career has been spent outside the Washington Beltway.

    More than that, her whole life has been outside the realm familiar to the intelligentsia of the media.
    She didn’t go to the big-name colleges and imbibe the heady atmosphere that leaves so many feeling that they are special folks.
    She doesn’t talk the way they talk or think the way they think.
    Worse yet, from the media’s perspective, Palin does not seek their Good Housekeeping seal of approval.
    Much is made of Sen. Joe Biden’s “experience.” But Frederick the Great said that experience matters only when valid conclusions are drawn from it.
    Biden’s “experience” has been a long history of being on the wrong side of issue after issue in foreign policy.
    He was one of those senators who voted to pull the plug on financial aid to South Vietnam, which was still defending itself from Communist invaders after the pullout of American troops.
    Biden opposed Ronald Reagan’s military buildup that helped win the Cold War. He opposed the surge in Iraq last year.
    Palin will not be ready to become president of the United States on the first day that she and John McCain take office. Nobody is.
    But being vice president is a job that can allow a lot of time for studying, and everything about Palin’s career says that she is a bright gal with her head on straight.
    The country needs that far more than it needs people with glib answers to media “gotcha” questions.
    Whatever the shortcomings of John McCain and Sarah Palin, they are people whose values are the values of this nation, whose loyalty and dedication to this country’s fundamental institutions are beyond question because they have not spent decades working with people who hate America.
    Nor are they people whose judgments have been proved wrong consistently during decades of Beltway “experience.”

    http://www.dailymail.com/Opinion/tsowell/200810230050

  88. so sorry forgot to include the author info for article i just poisted

    Thomas Sowell; Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. His Web site is http://www.tsowell.com.

  89. wbboei Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
    Lin: what may I ask did he say about the marines? He is a bird colonel in the corps.
    =========
    This was concerning the Haditha marines, and he held a press conference and stated that “they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

    He made this statement before any investigation was done, put these marines through hell, used it for political purposes against Bush, and they were all acquitted, they were innocent. One is now sueing Murtha for defamation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101345.html

    Murtha had them guilty until proven innocent. His area of PA from what I read is very heavy with retired military, and they didn’t take to Murtha’s accusations before any investigation very well. That’s why he is in trouble there.

    This link quotes a yahoo news article that no longer exists but it is saying that the Murtha was briefed after he claimed they deliberately killed innocents.
    hotair.com/archives/2006/08/04/marine-corps-accuses-murtha-of-lying-about-haditha-briefings/

    You can google Murtha and Haditha marines and you will get a lot of hits. I would also suspect this has something to do with why that recent Military Times poll has Marines supporting John McCain with stronger numbers than any of the other branches.

  90. I agree. I called myself a D, but I knew there were things that I agreed with the Rs in and there were areas that the Ds were just too liberal in. I believe in everyone eligible being allowed to vote, and making it easy. I don’t believe in one person voting 15 times, or bringing in bus loads of people to an area, registering them, letting them vote, and then busing them home.

    Well, I also get a ration of shit, being bi-racial , because I don’t agree with affirmative action or welfare (in their present states). My personal feeling is that the democratic party uses these things to bribe AA’s into voting dem. You come with us, and we’ll give you whatever you want. But the truth of the matter, is…in the long term , these “giveways” don’t help AA’s. They don’t encourage personal responsibility. In fact, they do just the opposite, because the goal for the party isn’t REALLY to strengthen the AA community, it’s to keep the AA community subservient and tied to the party. You don’t lift people out of poverty by “taking care of them”…you lift people out of poverty to giving them access to education and encouraging them to compete.

    As far as affirmative action goes…why should I be given a job over a more qualified candidate simply because I’m AA or a woman? And if I am, should I REALLY be surprised when the more qualified candidate comes to resent me for that?

    And here’s another thing that bugs me: white people so bent of PROVING they aren’t racists, that they pounce on everything and everyone for “imaginary racism”. They want to feel better about themselves, and that’s all well and good , but I’m TRYING to realize a world where the color of my skin doesn’t matter to anyone. Calling white people “racists” when they truly aren’t racist just harbors resentment. It worsens race relations…it doesn’t improve them. You’re good intentions are setting us back to square 1, people.

    (Wonder what the Obamabot lurkers are saying about me right now. LOL!)

  91. Obama: Most Secretive Democratic Presidential Candidate Ever

    Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:58 PM

    By: David A. Patten

    Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign says his campaign will bring a new level of honesty and transparency to the White House. Obama proudly touts that he and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla, passed a law requiring more transparency via a public database of all federal spending.

    But when it comes to offering the public documents about his own public and private activities, Obama’s record for openness gets an “F” grade.

    During the heated Democratic primary, Obama complained of the Bush White House being “one of the most secretive administrations in our history” and chided Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.

    Ironically, Obama, just days away from possibly being elected president, continues to stonewall a growing chorus of information requests for documents about his legislative, personal health, education, financing, and background — leaving many voters to cast ballots based on incomplete information.

    And serious questions about his past continue to swirl as Election Day looms, fueled in part by his own campaign’s refusal to make relevant documents available.

    And the press, usually banging at the door for candidates to make “full disclosure” is strangely quiet about Obama’s stonewalling.

    A Newsmax survey of key Obama aspects of Obama’s public and private life continued to be shielded from the public.

    Among the examples:

    * Obama has released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hands, released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1500 pages. After criticism on the matter, last week the Obama campaign also released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama. All test results appeared normal, but many details about his health remain a mystery.

    * Obama has refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois, and has been unable to produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other correspondence from his days in the Illinois state senate. There are also no appointment calendars available of his official activities. “It could have been thrown out,” Obama said while on the campaign trail during the Democratic primary. “I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.”

    * Obama has not released his client list as an attorney or his billing records. Obama has maintained that he only performed a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June. But he has not released billing records that would prove this assertion.

    * Obama won’t release his college records from Occidental College where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia.

    * Obama’s campaign refuses to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades. President George W. Bush, and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry, all released their college transcripts. (McCain has refused to release his Naval Academy transcript.)

    * Obama’s college dissertation has simply disappeared from Columbia Universities archives. In July, in response to a flurry of requests to review Obama’s senior thesis at the Ivy League school, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News “We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University.”

    * The senator has not agreed to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.

    * Jim Geraghty of the National Review has written extensively about Obama’s unwillingness to release records related to clients he represented while he was an attorney with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Gallard. Obama was required to list his clients during his years in the Illinois senate. “Obama listed every client of the firm,” Geraghty reported, making it impossible to discern which clients he represented.

    * Obama has never released records from his time at Harvard Law School.

    * Obama also has not disclosed the names of small donors giving $200 or less to his campaign. An exception to the finance-reporting laws exempts the campaign from reporting those who donate less than $200, but that law never envisioned the more than $300 million that has been raised by Obama in small amounts. The Republican National Committee has released its small donors, as well as McCain’s, on a public database.

    On several occasions, the Obama campaign has offered to provide additional information to reporters if they have specific questions or issues. And in some cases, it has done so.

    When Internet rumors began to fly that perhaps Obama was born outside the United States, for example, the campaign released images of a birth certificate that verified his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii. When that led to suggestions the birth certificate had been altered, the campaign again responded, allowing reporters to examine the actual birth certificate, complete with raised seal. (In late July, according to FactCheck.org, a researcher uncovered an announcement of Obama’s birth in the August 13, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser).

    Such instances of cooperation pale, however, compared to the many unanswered questions surrounding Obama, such as the financing of his education, and requests for the complete release of all donors to his campaign.

    Of course, candidates are often reticent to disclose any information that opposition researchers could use against them.

    But Politico.com notes that the Obama’s failure to share documents is “part of his campaign’s broader pattern of rarely volunteering information or documents about the candidate, even when relatively innocuous.”

    The hue and cry from the media for disclosure usually forces candidates to release sought after documents. But the press has largely acquiesced to Obama’s stonewalling.

  92. NBC and MSNBC Join ACORN, Other Left-wing Groups In Assuring ‘Election Protection

    By Tim Graham
    October 23, 2008 – 08:11 ET

    Amanda Carpenter at Townhall brings our attention to something amazing: NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.” Is that a bad joke, working with ACORN on ballot integrity? An NBC press release on Tuesday announced:

    “With less than 14 days before Election Day, NBC News and Election Protection will be joining forces to help voters ensure that their vote will count. The news leader and the nation’s largest nonpartisan voter protection coalition will work together to promote the 1-866-OUR-VOTE Hotline and http://www.866ourvote.org website so that voters can receive live assistance if they encounter problems, and access the information before they head to the polls now through Election Day.”

    to continue reading:
    newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/23/nbc-msnbc-join-acorn-other-left-wing-groups-assuring-election-protection

  93. Idunn

    I could not agree more. There is an old analogy.

    You give people fish, and you feed them, but if you teach them how to fish, they feed themselves.

    When you teach them to feed themselves, you endow people with the pride and knowledge to survive. The same is true in under developed countries. You can send food, or you can send money for a cow and a tractor, or give them a well. The second is the best long term solution.

    How much better for people to feel as though they earned their way, rather then been part of an allotment.

    I believe in making people strong. You want AA or women to success, you make sure their schools are equal or the best. If you want the best President of the US, then you vet them equally and let the voters decide. The only people vetted here have been McCain, Palin, and HRC.

  94. Pew: McCain Gets Far More Negative Coverage From Media
    By Warner Todd Huston | October 23, 2008 – 02:25

    As if we didn’t know already by the evidence of the left-wing media establishment’s work, Pew Research unveiled a new survey that showed that John McCain has been on the receiving end of “heavily unfavorable” coverage. In fact, according to Pew, McCain’s media coverage has become more negative over time with unfavorable stories about him outweighing favorable ones “by a factor of more than three-to-one.” Pew finds that McCain’s negative stories are the highest from among all four major candidates.

    First of all, we should remember that the Pew survey was drawn from news coverage — opinion pieces were not included. So, if we were to add all the opinion editorials emanating from the Old Media, the unfavorables for McCain and Palin would soar to unprecedented heights. But, Op-Eds aside and with the fact that we are talking “news,” it is still amazing to note the highly negative tone leveled at McCain.

    newsbusters.org/

  95. The same is true in under developed countries. You can send food, or you can send money for a cow and a tractor, or give them a well. The second is the best long term solution.

    Absolutely.

  96. newsbusters.org

    TV Station Political Analyst Dismisses Then Takes Seriously Questions About Obama Birth Certificate
    By P.J. Gladnick
    October 23, 2008 – 00:19 ET

    The political analyst of West Palm Beach TV station WPTV seems to have a split personality about the controversy currently raging on the Web over the authenticity Barack Obama’s birth certificate. First he seems to dismiss the questions about that birth certificate as some sort of nutty conspiracy theory: “I think it’s conspiracy theories run amuck,” says WPTV political analyst Dr. Robert Watson. “The next thing we’re going to hear is Barack Obama was at Roswell.”

    This was his first reaction to that Obama birth certificate controversy as reported by WPTV:

    Nonetheless an attorney in Philadelphia, Philip Berg, filed a lawsuit claiming Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian man. Berg says Obama failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18.

    Obama has attempted to silence any critics by producing a birth certificate from Hawaii, proving he was born there in 1961. Berg however is demanding an original, and not a copy from the Obama camp.

    Obama’s team filed a motion to dismiss Berg’s lawsuit, but they also made a motion to block discovery.

    Brian Smith is a West Palm Beach attorney registered as an Independent, that has wrote about this issue from a legal standpoint on his blog.

    “The Obama camp and Democratic National Committee responded to the lawsuit by filing a motion to dismiss, but they never responded to the request for admissions.”

    Berg is now arguing because Obama’s camp is refusing to produce an original birth certificate copy in discovery, his allegations are essentially true.

    “Wednesday he filed a motion for summary judgment, or a judgment in his favor, as a matter of law, because they essentially admitted those allegations. That from a legal perspective is huge,” says Smith.

    This is the third lawsuit that’s been filed about Obama’s citizenship, meaning the courts will have to decide how to move forward. A Washington man, Steven Marquis, is suing the Washington Secretary of State, demanding that he verify Obama’s citizenship status before the election.

    In Honolulu, Andy Martin filed a lawsuit on October 17th, to get the Hawaiin Department of Health to release Obama’s birth certificates. Martin also wants to see an original birth certificate, and not a ‘copy.’

    Smith says under Hawaiin law birth certificates are considered private.

    Meanwhile, Judge R. Barclay Surrick is hearing Berg’s case in Pennsylvania. The suit was filed on August 21st, but the judge has not made any ruling.

    What is certain is that this issue doesn’t seem to be going away.

    On-line it has a rabid and contentious following from both sides.

    Even in the real world, Dr. Watson tells us whenever he speaks publicly, the issue always pops up.

    So Dr. Watson you think this controversy is silly, right? Wrong:

    “At this point I think Obama should answer the question. In politics, perception is reality and as long as these e-mails are running wild with conspiracy theories, I think he needs to address it,” says Watson.

    Silly or serious? Make up your mind one way or another, Dr. Watson. Right now you seem to be trying to have it both ways.

  97. Idunn, a very thoughtful post above. I can tell you a personal story of how I came to believe the way I do about affirmative action. I started colledge in my mid twenties as a divorced mom of two children. I worked hard to make excellent grades and graduated in the top 10% of my graduating class, no easy feat for someone who dropped out of high school at the beginning of 10th grade.
    I was trained extremely well in my field. I applied for a position at the model program at my alma mater. All those of us who were exemplary students and performers through hard work, dedication, and through taking the learning and training experience very very seriously were ‘passed over’ because the Affirmative Action laws ‘required’ hiring a black, and specifically a black female. This black female was not the brightest bulb in the pack by a long shot, we evidenced this this first hand by her performances in classes. She got the prestigious position that many of us better qualified ‘whites’ applied for. Well, needless to say that did not last toooo long, as her incompetence shined like a bright light. I was offered another job in the area because the person who hired me had seen me duirng my training and recognized that my qualifications, compassion, and experience made me well suited for that position. I was heartbroken when I had to leave that position because of the pending death of my father back home. We had wondered who they would get to replace me, as I had performed extremely well. When the new person came through the door, it was this black female who had taken the previous position because of a quota. Needless, to say we all jumped on the ones who ‘gave’ her the job and asked them how in the world they chose her over all those others who were better qualified, had been successful, and would have done well in the position. The answer, in unison, was that she was a black female. Enough said.
    Now, please remember that my upbringing was to be the best you can be at whatever job you hold, even if you are a janitor – be the best d@mned janitor possible. We were taught pride in our work, to prepare ourselves for the job, ask for no handouts and accept no handouts, and to be personally reponsibile for ourselves and our families. I can hear it now from my Daddy and Grandaddy, ‘Any man worth his salt…….” Therefore, it was ingrained in me that, ‘Any woman worth her salt would not….” So, my belief that ‘Any[person] worth his/her salt, would not ‘take’ a job that was ‘given’ based on ANYTHING other than competence, experience, and training. And especially would not let themselves rise on the shoulders of others more competent, experience, and trained. I often wondered, but really did not want to know, how that black female did in the position I vacated.
    I was a child in the 50’s and felt so bad that blacks had to sit in the balcony and use separate water fountains, but I never dreamed that reverse discrimination would be visited on me, who was innocent of any and all racism. After I learned my heritage, I realized that the Native Americans [as a descendant of the Cherokee and Creeks] were treated as badly if not worse than the AA’s in my own country. And they never were given the corrective steps to eliminating the racism against them – they were put on reservations or mascacred and were ASSIMILATED into the white man’s world. They were measured by the drops of their blood as to whether the government would even recognize their native heritage, and have systemically been diluted by the blood of the whites. My worry about the AA’s is that the process of their heritage is being diluted and will before too many years will be ASSIMILATED into oblivion. I fully believe that we must give children roots and wings, but how can they discover their roots if the government has systemically erased much of their heritage. Okay, off my soapbox now.

  98. djia Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 10:38 am

    TV Station Political Analyst Dismisses Then Takes Seriously Questions About Obama Birth Certificate
    By P.J. Gladnick

    (snip)
    Smith says under Hawaiin law birth certificates are considered private.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I believe in one’s right to privacy.

    Politicians work for the public have to expect prying into their lives, as they are asking us to entrust them with governance and the creation and enforcement of laws.

    Furthermore, those seeking the highest office in the US, currently deemed “the most important position in the world”, must subject themselves to far greater scrutiny.

    Oblubber is asking for everything and offering nothing, except empty promises.

    The dude be bad.

  99. This morning I mistakenly left the tv on when I went into another room and at least three times a heard the same waffles ad. I usually mute the tv as soon as he appears so this is the first I’d heard in awhile. I was stunned in the ad he was giving parental advice. It’s going to get very creepy if he is elected.

  100. LOL! got this in an email from my bosses wife today, thought i would pass it along 😀

    Everyone concentrates on the problems we’re having in this country lately: illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, alligators attacking people in Florida . ..

    Not me. I concentrate on solutions for the problems. It’s a win-win situation.

    + Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

    + Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

    + Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.

    Any other problems you would like for me to solve today ?

  101. Politicians work for the public have to expect prying into their lives, as they are asking us to entrust them with governance and the creation and enforcement of laws.

    Furthermore, those seeking the highest office in the US, currently deemed “the most important position in the world”, must subject themselves to far greater scrutiny
    —————————————–
    This analysis is pathetic.

    The issue here is NOT PRIVACY!

    The issue is not greater scrutiny!!

    The issue is ELIBILITY!!!

    As in legal eligibility to be president!!!!

    And to faithfully execute the laws per Article 2.

    What do you think would happen if the next time a cop stops me and asks to see my license and I say I cannot show it to you because I consider it to be private. Will he say ok sorry I asked it was never my intent to invade your privacy and please drive safely? Or will he say you are not eligible to drive and arrest me.

    Hope, change, revolution.

  102. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

    For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected
    mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some BIG
    bucks.
    Watch for these consolidations in 2008:

    1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W. R.
    Grace Co. Will merge and become: Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.

    2.) PolygramRecords, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and
    become: Poly, Warner Cracker.

    3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become: MMMGood.

    4.) Zippo Manufacturing, AudiMotors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will
    merge and become: ZipAudiDoDa

    5.) FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.

    6.) Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become:
    Fairwell Honeychild.

    7.) Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.

    8.) Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will
    become: Knott NOW!

    And finally….

    9.) Victoria ‘s Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new
    name: TittyTittyBangBang

    OH, YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO FORWARD THIS ONE!

  103. + Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

    + Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

    + Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.
    ——————————————
    + Swimming privileges for Bambi/

  104. Thoughtful post, Short Termer. 🙂

    I was a child in the 50’s and felt so bad that blacks had to sit in the balcony and use separate water fountains, but I never dreamed that reverse discrimination would be visited on me,

    My mother grew up during this period of history, and she’s shared many valuable stories with me regarding her experiences. One time, after sitting at the kitchen table listening to her stories, I asked her how on earth she ever came away from all that without hating white people. She said she just learned early on that some whites had hatred in their hearts, some were just blind, some were victims themselves and lashed out out of anger , and many were allies and friends. If she hated every white person based on their skin color…how was she any better than those who did her that way? That always stuck with me.

    Even here, I know that there are probably some folks who have prejudices (hell, I still think no white person can dance!)…but that isn’t the same as being a racist. Prejudices simply mean that view one another based on stereotypes rather than seeing the individual. But how the hell can you enlighten people about who you are when you jump on every little thing they ask or say? Eventually, they’ll stop talking TO you and start talking AT you, and then…back to square one.

  105. And I think that’s true in the women’s movement as well, come to think of it. Often, we who are pro-choice view women who are pro-life as the enemy. They can’t possibly care about women, right? But that isn’t how I see it… I see women who care passionately about something, just as I care passionately about something, except the “somethings” are polar opposites. Doesn’t make either of us bad people…and neither stance gives us some sort of badge as a woman, you know?

  106. NBC and MSNBC Join ACORN, Other Left-wing Groups In Assuring ‘Election Protection
    ————————————–
    Only a fool would watch these partisan whores any more. They are kaput. A fifth column if there ever was one.

  107. + Swimming privileges for Bambi/

    awwww don’t leave out meesh elle , axelrove, rev wrong, rev pfleger, Ayers/dorne et all 😉

  108. This was concerning the Haditha marines, and he held a press conference and stated that “they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

    He made this statement before any investigation was done, put these marines through hell, used it for political purposes against Bush, and they were all acquitted, they were innocent. One is now sueing Murtha for defamation
    ——————————————
    thanks lin. I had forgotten about this. This is bad stuff. Very bad. Especially for a senior field grade officer in the Marine Corps. In fact, it is deplorable.

  109. Idunn

    I grew up in a small town, and always went to an integrated school. Our Class President was AA, our sports were mixed, however, they lived in their section of town.

    At a point, they AAs wanted to live anywhere they could afford. That caused a small raised eyebrow, but actually went pretty smoothly. I myself caught myself saying so and so is pretty for an AA, or that is a pretty AA. When I realized what I was saying, I knew that was wrong, and I stopped myself, and the others around me.

    Right now I fight certain sexual issue with my family. I have a male in my family that when he gets upset with a female on the phone (usually he is trying to solve a problem), he calls her sweetie. When I hear these conversations start, I stand at the desk, and stop him. The other day, he let one slip, and he said, sorry, I should have not said that as it appears sexists, as I have someone standing next to me letting me know it is a sexual slam. The young girl on the phone said Thank You.

    Racism and Sexism is something we fight in ourselves, in others, in our country, and the world. I don’t think this battle will ever be over, but if we take it on as a personnel issue, we become the army. When the army stands there and lets people know it is wrong, changes happen.

  110. NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.”
    ——————————————–
    Since ACORN is the principle purveyor of election fraud in this election, and has shown no ability or willingness to address the issue in the past, it is like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop. NBC and MSNBC think this is a way to legitimatize their fraud and anesticize the public. Before that happens FOX should do a major expose if they have not done so already. ACORN is a corrupt organization. Bambi tried to deny his association, and since that has not worked his media whores are trying to say it is really ok. The one thing ACORN, NBC and MSNBC all have in common is a commitment to steal our democracy, by depriving people of the truth and corrupting the vote.

  111. It is to be hoped that NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and CBS have to lowest viewer ratings of all on election day. Let them talk to themselves until they are hoarse/broken records.

  112. henry Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am
    This morning I mistakenly left the tv on when I went into another room and at least three times a heard the same waffles ad. I usually mute the tv as soon as he appears so this is the first I’d heard in awhile. I was stunned in the ad he was giving parental advice. It’s going to get very creepy if he is elected.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    “Parental advice” is supposed to be his “Man-up to your responsibilities, Brothers” message. It is supposed to be his Sista Souljah moment. Besides, parental responsibility is another apple-pie and motherhood no lose type cause.

    “Hi, I’m Barack Obama, and I approve this message. Everyone should be taking vitamins. I’m pro-vitamin. My opponent has remained silent on the Vitamin Issue. Be clear that as President, everyone, including children, mothers, the needy, those with disabilities, will be encouraged to use vitamins. Now, actually having the government provide vitamins would be extremely expensive, so at this point, my stance is that we will look into what can be done, because I FEEL STRONGLY that vitamins are good for you, good for me, good for America.”

  113. JanH, exactly let them talk to themselves and hold the lowest viewer ratings ever – I think our boycott of NBC, NYT, CNN, and MSNBC have worked well so far – let’s continue.
    I look forward to the Neilsen ratings the way I used to the polls way back when in the primary – and have learned a lot about ratings.

  114. wbboei Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 am
    NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I can just see it, Brian Williams driving around looking for people for McCain signs. “Hey, let’s alert the authorities that a band of hooligans appear bent on voter suppression and intimidation”.

    “Hey, there’s ACORN, doing the charitable good work of driving around voters to get them to the polls, and putting them back in the bus to drive to vote somewhere else. It warms the heart to see Democracy In Action”.

  115. That ACORN is being allowed to even venture further into this mess is ridiculous. Their functions should be frozen and they should be banned from having anything to do with this election or any other once and for all.

    People should bombard the network about the criminality of this unholy marriage!

  116. bluegirl Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    Is this an elitist blog? Does one have to have a college degree to be accepted here? Just wondering.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Ummm, no. We have all sorts here. Regular workin’ folks. College grads. Latte-sipping smart people using big words. Down to earth types. Some RANTERS. .(…..some lurkers). The cordial. The Angry.

    If you want true elitism, HuffPost is right around the corner. I like mesclun just as much as they do, but they actually think they are better than others. For me, it’s just much tastier and healthy than iceberg.

  117. bluegirl,

    Nothing further from the truth. We come from all walks of life and eagerly absorb thoughts, opinions and expertise from all we encounter. The more the merrier! 🙂

  118. Savagepolitics has an interesting article and to pique your curiosity: Eight Belles, Big Brown, Da’ Tara…

    {Idunn, your mom sounds like a very special lady. Wish I could meet many of you on this board and make friends in person.}

  119. Bluegirl

    what ever gave you that impression?? LOL!

    This is the most friendly blog you could ever encounter…….sure we have a mix of people in many different professions
    some with fancy degree’s and some with out any (last one would be me 😀 )

    we have city folk and country folk (again the last one would be me :D)

    we have many here who have followed politics for generations an to people like me who have only just begun with this election

    those who know help those who don’t (again me) with any hesitation or snobish attitudes, I am very comfortable to let it be known here that i am a newbie in comparison to others here and have never ever felt like I was looked down upon for a second

    This blog has become “family” “friends” and it always welcomes new members … you must be new here so welcome! 😀

    one other thing about this blog…..

    we have no time for obamabots that purely only wish to disrupt and spew garbage, but i am positive we would welcome one who wished to maturely discuss respectfully with reason the differing view points. BUT….. i doubt that anyone here could be persuaded to drink the obama kool ade but would welcome the opportunity to d’compress a bot…….I hear those kool ade DT’s are the worst ! 😀

  120. Dija, I think it was you who posted the Tom Sowell article above. Thank you. I met him at a Hillsdale College event years ago, and he signed six of his books for me. He is the smartest person I have ever met, but is so down to earth with a marvelous sense of humor. A great scholar and a great human being. The clarity of his thinking is a wonderful thing to behold. I can only imagine what he would say to that pundit who sees the birth certificate as a privacy issue. If Barack was a constitutional whatever he was, he wasnt a very good one.

  121. Does one have to have a college degree to be accepted here?

    Well, my college degree doesn’t really help me in my job…which I affectionately call “raggedy farm wife”. 😉

    But getting serious for a second here… there are very few people I reject out of hand. Don’t have any use for liars, thieves , hate mongers, or people prone to physical violence. Other than that, though…I love talking to people from all walks of life. 🙂

  122. NewMexicoFan Says:

    bluegirl
    Just wondering why you have asked the question?
    &&&&&&

    Maybe I used one of those five dollar words or expressions: post-Dada neo-pointilism.

    Or my post from earlier this moth: “I would be remiss if I did not elucidate how Obama juxtaposes the syllolgistic and vituperative in exhorting the frenzied masses into abhorrent, misogynistic displays.”

    Dammit, sometimes I just can’t help myself.

  123. rgb, stop showing off. we know you’re already a musical connoisseur. 🙂

    bluegirl, this is not an elitist blog. If it was we would all be voting for Obama.

  124. Let us hope that the more nbc an msnbc do their little election theater night nobody will come to see it.

    Theres no business
    Like show business
    Like no business I know . .

    Even with a turkey
    That you know will fold
    Youll soon be standing
    Out in the cold

    Let us hope closing night for them comes sooner rather than later.

  125. Interesting article posted on RBO about Oliar and The New Party:

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/loudon-documentary-evidence-obama-was-new-party-member/

  126. Well this is very interesting, for all the hype about new voters

    Gallup finds no increase in people intending to vote for the first time in 2008 from 2004. If this is correct, Obama’s fucked. This is very bad news for Obama.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111331/Increase-Proportion-FirstTime-Voters.aspx

    Gallup finds 13% of registered voters saying they will vote for president for the first time in 2008. That matches the figure Gallup found in its final 2004 pre-election poll.

    The current data are based on interviews with more than 2,700 registered voters as part of Oct. 17-19 Gallup Poll Daily tracking. Gallup asked these voters a question it had asked in its 2004 election polling: whether this would be the first time they had voted in a presidential election, or whether they had voted for president before. Despite much discussion of the possibility of large numbers of new voters in 2008, the percentage of “first time” voters in Gallup polling this election cycle is no higher than it was at approximately the same time in 2004.

    The estimate of first-time voters is slightly lower, 11%, using Gallup’s expanded likely voter model. Under this model, Americans who are registered to vote, who say they plan to vote, who indicate they have given “quite a lot” of thought to the election, and who rate their chances of voting as a “9” or “10” on a 10-point scale are deemed likely to vote. Gallup’s traditional likely voter model takes into account past voting behavior as well as current voting intentions, but because it adjusts for voters who were too young to vote in past elections, it still estimates that 8% of likely voters will be voting for the first time.

  127. Yahoo news reporting that McCain/Obama tied for the rural vote=BullS*&T. There is not one Obama sign in any rural area that I drive through. Hillary won the rural vote hands down and its going to McCain/Palin. Whatever happened to honesty in reporting?? Gone just like gasoline for one dollar!

  128. You know, I really don’t give a rats ass if Obama is a socialist or a marxist…I just want to know why the hell he’s so friggin’ devious about it. Present yourself honestly, Oliar, so we voters can make a judgement, that’s all I want.

  129. ACORN and NBC joining forces is abhorrent. Why, oh why, are they giving credence to an organization rampant with fraud? Nevermind, stupid question.

    rgb44hrc Says: ROFL! If I hadn’t seen more of your postings, and I read that one, I would say, “Get over yourself.”

    Bluegirl: People on this blog have been very friendly, but most of us do not like bots.

  130. confloyd, thats bull, Obama could barely scrape 25% of rural voters anywhere especially states Hillary wiped him out in, if you think they suddenly going for Obama now, I have an igloo to sell you all in florida.

  131. Funny Gallup also saying it has no evidence that young voters are anxious to turnout, in other words they won’t.

  132. I am actually listening to Rush Limbaugh and he brought up a little while ago BO saying he’s rushing to Hawaii to be with his dieing grandmother, several days ago, so if she is so sick why is he still here???? And then he said I’ve been laying low on this, but this birth certificate thing is gaining traction out there, so now he is wondering if the trip to Hawaii has more to do with the birth certificate than a dieing grandmother. He also says even if it is true do you really think it will change anything??? So apparantly even if its true he doesn’t think it will mean anything.

  133. wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Dija, I think it was you who posted the Tom Sowell article above.
    **********

    glad you liked it, he does seem like a very intelligent man…..much like yourself.

    I have appreciated all that you have written for us here and look forward to much more from you 😀

  134. A quiz: Who said this?

    “And I was lucky to have a lot of support at home, too. Now among the many things that I owe my parents is one simple lesson, and that was this is America and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity. The belief in equal opportunity is not just the cause of feminists, it’s the creed of our country-equal opportunity. And if I’m given the honor of serving you in the White House, I intend to advance that creed in our own nation and beyond because across the world, there are still places where women are subjugated and persecuted as they were in Afghanistan, places where they’re bullied and brutalized and murdered in honor killings, places where women are sold like commodities in the nightmare world of the sex trade, and places where baby girls are unwelcome as a matter of state policy and their mothers are forced to have abortions. Now no one person, no one leader, can bring an end to all of those ills, to all of the injustices inflicted upon women, but I can promise you this, if I am elected, these women, too, will have an advocate and a defender in the 47th vice president of the United States.”

  135. He also says even if it is true do you really think it will change anything??? So apparantly even if its true he doesn’t think it will mean anything
    —————————————-
    That is the measure of his delusion, or his lack of expertise in Constitututional Law.

  136. I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?

  137. independent2008
    I don’t buy it just like I am not buying any of the polls out there every single one of them have to be taken with a grain of salt.

  138. independent, its not true, its bull, they want to try and tell other puma’s that some have caved but we have not, we will take them down.

  139. moononpluto Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    Well this is very interesting, for all the hype about new voters

    Gallup finds no increase in people intending to vote for the first time in 2008 from 2004. If this is correct, Obama’s fucked. This is very bad news for Obama.

    =====
    Well I have a confession to make. I am 41 years old, and I have never voted in my life. I always had an opinion, but I always lived in either a solid red or solid blue state (ks, and DC), and so I was lazy and didn’t bother, my one vote wasn’t going to make any difference to my state. But this year we are in FL, and I will be voting for the first time in my life. For McCain.

  140. independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    ===
    They made that same claim what was it last week or the week before? And the same time this lady on tv was saying this there was that fund raiser in NY attended by Palin and all the donors where PUMAs, Gretta’s husband was one of them. So I would say no, they haven’t. Also don’t forget that rally with Palin and all the big name women standing behind her, former HRC supporters coming out for McCain/Palin. Its a head game.

  141. moononpluto Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
    Funny Gallup also saying it has no evidence that young voters are anxious to turnout, in other words they won’t.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Young voters’ excuses:

    The thrill is so “last month”.

    “There’s a Dave Matthews concert that we’re driving to Election Day”.

    “The candidates still haven’t discussed the important issues: BonJovi or Springsteen?”

    “Woh, the election was on Tuesday?”

    “Voting is important: I call in my favorite on American Idol multiple times”.

    “Bah-Rock-The-Vote O-Bah-ma…the Messiah…take the pink pills”.

  142. pm: chelsie clinton 12 years from now? She saw those things when she travelled abroad with her mother, and I am sure they made an impression. I know she said no to Teddy on becoming a politician, but things change.

    I hope when Teddy slips the mortal coil, they bury him where he should have died trying to save that young woman’s life instead of saving his own hide and using his family power and influence to escape prosecution–Lest we forget.

  143. Lin67 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
    independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Ummm, if it was 88%, Obama WOULD have a real 10% lead over JM. There are more Dems. But more Dems are defecting than Repubs.

    I know. I interviewed 240,000,000 Americans last week.

  144. independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    —————————————-
    Yea independent. But I heard it was 187%. Try to relax.

  145. The formula for correctly polling people for this election has to be so complicated at this point, even Einstein could not figure it out.

    Einstein would probably be smart enought not to do it.

  146. Thanks you all for making me feel better. -) Poll numbers always seem to freak me out . I thought that a few may have caved in since the Clintons had stepped up their game stumping for Obama.

    I am still mad that Obama hasn’t made any apology to us at all since it was he who said that he could get all of Clinton’s people. I had no problem whatsoever voting for McCain a week ago.

    Ummm, if it was 88%, Obama WOULD have a real 10% lead over JM. There are more Dems. But more Dems are defecting than Repubs.

    I know. I interviewed 240,000,000 Americans last week.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    Thanks for the news rgb44rc. I can relax a little better now! 🙂

  147. You know what I don’t understand is how progressive state, or they like to think they are progressive, like CA, does not have early voting?

    Don’t get me wrong, I love CA, but I alway thought with there liberal attitude, they would have invented Early Voting.

  148. How scared shitless would you be if you saw a spider this big catch a bird in the garden and then started to eat it, I was in Australia this year and I saw one humungous thing bigger than a dinner plate, I ran.
    —————————————
    weird.
    —————————
    was the spider you saw poisonous? I do not think taranatulas are, but that does not mean I am ready to adopt one. Besides, Michelle is spoken for.

  149. Point about the polls being biased. In 2004 Bush won Virginia by about 260,000 votes (and lets face it it really wasn’t very popular back then either) and cnn saying Obama up by 10%. So they are trying to make us believe that there has been a swing of 579,000 votes? Democrats will gain 290,000 votes over 2004. I find that very hard to believe, Virginia is for Lovers not idiots!

  150. rgb44hrc
    love the vitamin analogy. I thought I was hearing things as he gave his instructions to parents. But then it played twice over the next half hour.
    As the ad is running in Western PA I guess he thinks us rednecks just deposit the little ones in front of the tube. I found it insulting.

  151. All we can really pray/hope for is that Nov 4th is similar to the great day in New Hampshire when people chose substance over form…

  152. Well I have a confession to make. I am 41 years old, and I have never voted in my life. I always had an opinion, but I always lived in either a solid red or solid blue state (ks, and DC), and so I was lazy and didn’t bother, my one vote wasn’t going to make any difference to my state. But this year we are in FL, and I will be voting for the first time in my life. For McCain.
    —————————————-
    Lin: given your knowledge of politics and commitment to this blog I find it astonishing that you did not vote before. I would have guessed that wild horses could not have kept you away.

  153. Anybody else get any email from justsaynodeal today? I did and I have never been there. Not a problem just curious.

  154. Does anyone think that the republicans are waiting until the last few days to drop the info on Obama and thats why he wants everyone to early vote?

  155. URGENT!!!!!!!!!!URGENT!!!!!!!!!

    Please sign in to obamacrimes.com ASAP..Please sign in for the petition………..

    Please do it now………..

  156. wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    pm: chelsie clinton 12 years from now? She saw those things when she travelled abroad with her mother, and I am sure they made an impression. I know she said no to Teddy on becoming a politician, but things change.
    —————————-

    wbboei, That was from palin’s speech in NV, must see full speech at RD. This was perhaps the most poignant part of that speech delivered strongly with confidence.

    I do think Chelsea Clinton will get into politics. It is hard to stay away with such illustrious parents and having seen from up close how much good you can do if you have the power. Many seem to stay away not because they don’t have the good intentions or the confidence or the strength but because they don’t know where to start. But with a political offspring like Chelsea they already have a foot in the door if they have the inclination.

  157. rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    I wish Nader would be on TV more because there are a lot of democrats who are votring for Obama not because they like him, but because they can not find it in themselves to vote for a republican. Giving them another choice would siphon votes from Obama. Nader appears to hurt Obama more than Barr hurts McCain.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Nader is a known quantity.

    Barr is a known nut.

  158. pm: I thought Palin initially, but got tricked by the 47th vice president. If I had thought back to the Nixon era where there was Agnew and then Ford, I would have known we have had more vice presidents than presidents and stuck with my original surmise. Big Media keeps speeches like these under wraps because they run counter to the fraudulent narrative they are trying to promote.

  159. independent2008 Says:
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    =======

    The media loves that story, they’ve been runing it ever since June. They just change the dates.

    As of near the conventions (and just after???) the percents were still the same as all summer of hil’s: half for Obama, 1/4 for McCain, 1/4 staying home. Pew and anoher spelled it out: Obama had made “No progress”.

    I think what happens is that some of the polls disregard the stayhomes, which gives a higher percent for Obama. Also there aren’t as many Democrats as before — many Hil’s left the party in protest, so it may be that only the dregs, er, the Obama supporters are left.

    I’ve got a diary with more detail at clintondems.com

  160. magic
    i went to obamacrimes and did not see a link to a petition…. then i checked out the comment area and found this

    written by Kevin Powell, October 23, 2008
    Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing – Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut

    Georgia voters can sign the Georgia ‘Plaintiff Class’ petition here:
    http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/

    Return signed petitions to:
    patriot4all@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

    Need as many signed petitions as possible before hearing on Friday Oct 24. Let’s make it happen.

    ***************

    Is this what you posted about???

  161. bluegirl,

    Elitist? Well, if a a blog were elitist, would they admit it? Try asking that at TPM or The Atlantic or whatever. 🙂

    I can’t get the Archives to work, can anyone? Maybe becasue I have scripts turned off?

  162. The reason I asked was that every time I come in here some one is talking about their college education. I know alot of people with college educations that never even mention them in normal conversations. I guess I was feeling a bit under educated ( being reminded of everyone elses education, and my lack thereof, lol) and thought that maybe you really didn’t want anyone without a college education here, or that maybe someone without one, just didn’t measure up to those that do have one.

    Maybe I’m just feeling a bit put out by hearing everyday on TV that we Pennsylvanians are just bitter, redneck racists. Never mind the fact that most of us aren’t.

  163. rjk,

    I agaree taht informing voters about third parties is a good thing. Some are too strong anti-McCain but when they hear about McKinney (black, anti-war) it’s news to them and they consider her. Even if they just get indecisive and don’t make ti to the polls, that’s one less vote for Obama. (Well, one-half less. Better than votng for him.)

  164. rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    Point about the polls being biased. In 2004 Bush won Virginia by about 260,000 votes (and lets face it it really wasn’t very popular back then either) and cnn saying Obama up by 10%. So they are trying to make us believe that there has been a swing of 579,000 votes? Democrats will gain 290,000 votes over 2004. I find that very hard to believe, Virginia is for Lovers not idiots!
    ====
    What they try to say (and they tried the same thing in 2004) is that there are enough new people living in VA right next to DC, and DC is very liberal. And so they assume that the increased population due to DC will be liberal. But in the 2004 election there were still more republicans vote in VA than democrats. But when they poll they really oversample Dems, way more than voted in 2004, so you have to believe that that many new dems have moved to the DC area since 2004.

  165. 1.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Eleven
    Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008

    McCain has cut into Obama’s lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday. The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead among Catholics.
    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536

  166. The polls are closing:

    PRINCETON, NJ — Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows Barack Obama running ahead of John McCain among likely voters — 50% to 46% using the “traditional” model Gallup has employed in past elections, and 51% to 45% using an “expanded” model that takes into account possibly greater turnout by new or infrequent voters.

    So far Obama has not won a race where he did not lead by 10% before polling.

  167. wbbeoi

    please take a look at this and tell us what you think?

    docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/

  168. bluegirl: the best put down to educated snobs I ever heard happened during a legisative forum in east Texas, when a cattlewoman who was one of the leading lights said their kids were doing just fine until they sent they away to college and educated the common sense out of them.

  169. Bluegirl

    I have been smart ever since I was born. My IQ did not change between graduating from High School and the days I got my advanced degress. I had and earned a great piece of paper, but I was raised that you respect, and listen to everyone.

    I am reminded of a college story where they were making 99% pure Ivory Soap. They stated getting brown flakes in it. They brought in the process experts, but did not ask the workers.

    If they had asked they workers they would have found out someone was spitting tobacco in the mix.

    An organization is only as smart as its weakest link, and that link can be a highly educated CEO who is unwilling to admit that he is wrong or take advice from the average person.

    Welcome to the group. Sheep skins not required here.

  170. bluegirl Says:
    The reason I asked was that every time I come in here some one is talking about their college education. I know alot of people with college educations that never even mention them in normal conversations.
    =======

    Now those are teh REAL elitists! They just assume that Everybody has a doctorate. 🙂

    Where it’s not assumed, then we’re not elitist. :- Must be cooincidence, it doesn’t come up that often. Of course when one person mentiosn theirs then others chime in too.

    I got half way through college, mostly in a very local church collage. (My bad seplling is typos though, I DO know the difference. I just don’t BOTHER, my keyborad isn’t great for backspacing etc.)

    This is the most diverse political blog I know. In backgrounds and in posting styles.

  171. bluegirl;

    Actually, there almost seems to be a disconnect between education and “being smart”. I know a lot of smart people, involved, informed, make good money at a trade / profession, but maybe they never went to college.

    I know lots of college attendees (not all graduate), of there were quite a number of idiots.

    There seems to be a socio-economic component, with family history playing a role. Maybe someone’s daddy, and his daddy’s dad, etc. didn’t go to college because it was not affordable. Or, what about an upper crust family who are all professionals; if they had an underachiever, this person would be pressured to attend some university. I mean, for example, if your last name was Bush, and you had a complete idiot of a son. With the family’s help, one day he might just be president.

  172. Thanks Jan, NMF, Turndown, and WBBoei, you’ve just made my day, lol.

    I admit I was having a rather bad day from the time I got up this morning and then when I checked this blog I saw some people talking about their college educations and I had noticed that alot in the other threads and I guess I was feeling (including a bit inferior) like maybe that was a requirement to be accepted here.

    Thanks again.

  173. Jan H, I don’t have much to put in my posts, and that’s why I was glad to have found this blog, because I got to see all the things that everyone was finding out about bambi.

    You can’t get that on TV anymore except for Fox and I have to wonder about them sometimes.

    You guys have a way of finding out so much. I’ve told my husband that I’ve seen things in here long before I ever see it on TV.

  174. An organization is only as smart as its weakest link, and that link can be a highly educated CEO who is unwilling to admit that he is wrong or take advice from the average person.
    ————————————
    How true. I used to think that was the exception to the rule. I now know different. To simplify their lives and to give them the assurance we are all looking for, they surround themselves with people who tell them what they want to hear and ignore feedback from reality in the midst of a changing environment. It does them in and the organization as well sometime later. But just try telling them that even in the most diplomatic way.

  175. Bluegirl

    You know what the amazing things was, the more educated I was, the more they thought I was smart.

    I found that amusing, as I was no smarter than when I began, I just learned how to take a test and find it in a book. Sometimes it made me angry, as I felt they should have respected my opinions to begin with.

  176. rgb44, I know what you mean. Two of my sons are gratuates of Penn State and another one is going to a community college, belatedly.

    My one son goes to neurology conferences all over the US, since he is a senior editor (and also writes some articles of a neurology journal), but I’m amazed sometimes at the little things he doesn’t seem to know about.

    We used to play some word board games when they would all come home for holidays and I would come up with words, that he never heard of and he would have to look them up in the dictionary, because he didn’t think they were words, lol.

  177. Bluegirl, speaking just for me here , I occasionally mention that I’m college educated when I’m drawing a short version picture of who I am as a voter. It’s more about demographics more than anything else.

    I could give you a long long list of people who aren’t college educated or didn’t finish high school that are ALOT smarter than I am…my mother, my husband , my elderly neighbor , to name just a few. 😉

    But here’s the thing, having a degree doesn’t make you an “elitist” , thinking it makes you better than anyone else does.

  178. bluegirl Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    Birdgal, I am not a bot
    ————————————————————————–

    I know that. I enjoy reading your postings. Just meant that people on this blog are accepting of anyone, but bots. Everyone on this board seems to be from different walks of life, but we all love Senator Clinton, and believe NObama.

  179. Dija: it is an unsigned order of summary judgment. It has no legal effect unless and until the judge signs it. If he does sign it then Barack Obama cannot be president.

    Bear in mind, defendants have asked that the case be dismissed. They have submitted an order of dismissal. That has not been signed either. It has no legal effect now either.

    We shall see what the judge says most likely today or tomorrow.

  180. Murtha could be about to lose his seat, now we know why Rendell is shit scared of W.Penn

    michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/breaking-new-poll-shows-russell-over-murtha-48-35/

    A Pennsylvania source has just leaked me brand spanking new poll data showing GOP upstart Bill Russell leading John Murtha by 48-35.

    This comes on top of the Susquehanna poll showing Murtha ahead of Russell by 4 points, within the margin of error.

    The new poll is from Dane and Associates, which surveyed over 800 probable voters, randomly selected to reflect the district makeup, on Wednesday night.

  181. moon: Wow. That is a surprise, isn’t it? I remember, how happy people were, when Murtha endorsed Senator Clinton.

  182. I have been thinking of that Christmas song the 12 days of Christmas, come on Republicans give us those 12 days of Christmas shoes being dropped on Obama!!!

  183. bluegirl
    I think you are in PA as well as I. I posted earlier today that I was a mesculin eating, gay, college graduate in Western PA just to make it clear that there are many people not drinking the kool aid and we come in all shapes and sizes. I wear a McCain button on the bus and people start arguments with me everyday. Of those 99% are of the caucasian persuasion and doing well, and will rarely allow discourse instead I have been called racist. Which at this point just makes me laugh.
    Anywho I love your posts and I for one who announced my education was only trying to refute the media myth that only a certain segment of W PA was supporting McCain.

  184. This economic news is horrifying for a new business owner like myself. BTW, I should be open for business by the weekend!!

  185. ABM90

    Google this article, give yourself plenty of time to read it, but read it.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/22/breaking-the-numbers-dont-lie-but-the-dnc-does/

    Also I know you like the pink pages the best, but check in with
    River Daughter Confluence once in a while…just google “River Daughter” and choose the first one.

    Anglachel is also thoughtful, and honest, sometimes heavy, but worth diving into for small amounts of time.

    The article I reprinted from her about Hillary’s DNC Convention Speech was the one you liked so much.

    More later.

  186. Hey, if my rep said I was racist just because i don’t want to vote for the black guy, i’d tell him where to go to, who the hell is he to infer who or what people are voting about.

    Why is no one asking him to resign is the best bit, Geraldine had to resign, they been trying to make McCain apologise for everything, so why not Murtha, or I forgot, he’s the one accussing.

  187. moononpluto
    the scariest thing I have ever watched in my life was the icky icky man crush which happaned between waffles and Harry Reid(sp) on the cbs morning show. Vile. He was overwhelmed that bambi liked his little song. The host of whatever CBS morning show was visibly giddy that bambi liked his piece. Why did I have it on hey I was in the middle of a timed texas hold ’em game.

  188. moon
    I am also waiting for the perfect chance to use the urinal at the apollo line the next time some one accuses me of racism for not supporting thier choice.

  189. Its time like that i wish i had a special remote control, that had a “explode their head” button which you just pointed and pushed.

  190. wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Dija: it is an unsigned order of summary judgment. It has no legal effect unless and until the judge signs it. If he does sign it then Barack Obama cannot be president.
    *******************8

    Thanks Wbboei

    that’s what i thought since no signature appeared on the dotted line…..but wasn’t sure about it either

  191. wb(and then lots of vowels)
    disagreed with me the other day that I thought Murtha’s slights were intentional. I respectfully disagree as Murtha himself has said the community has changed. Everyone I have met in my life who is actually racist has no qualms about being referred to in that manner. But no one wants to be called a redneck. As Murtha said in his last statement the community has changed it has become more affluent so if you label the potential McCain voters as racists but then turn around and say we didn’t mean you we meantthose other people, you’re not ignorant white trash vote for the black guy and prove it.

    I

  192. Talk about biased polls, The Big10 Battleground just released polls showing Obama with a doublte digit lead in OH, PA, MI, MN, WI, IA, IN and IL.

    What you really have to look for is that Big10 Battleground is really the member universities of the Big10 in other words they are polls done by Obamatrons and the data does not give a breakdown of Republicans and democrats sampled.

  193. Guys help me out here!

    I feel like I’m losing my faith here. I don’t understand it…t seems like all the f-ing planets have lined up for that fraud/loser!

    The insane amount of money being poured into his campaign (probably fro Hamas and friends), the freaking bad Economy, the disgusting biased Media and even some freaking conservatives going on CNN and trashing McCain and Palin.

    I know, I know. Believe me..I’ve been battling Koolaid drinkers and even friends and family on this subject and even though I could give you guys a million reasons why that s.o.b shouldn’t win- it seems people don’t care, nor do they want to hear about it. I mean, blacks could find out tomorrow this guy is the Anti Christ and they’d still vote for that clown.

    It seems to me the only thing that could bring that bum down is something major like “ties to Al Queda, a Gay sex scandal, child out of wedlock, Rezko giving him up or something along those lines.

    Please help me out here. I need a shot of hope and confidence that something will stop this guy from ruining our country!!

    p.s

    BTW, where are all the prominent (Romney, Thompson, Huckabee, Bush father, Baker) Republicans at? Why aren’t they out there for McCain/Palin?? I’m so freaking down right now..It’s like my country has been taken over by a bunch of freaking aliens bent on destroying it! All this is like a bad B movie!!!

  194. McCain supporter mutilated in Pittsburg, a B carved into her face!

    Heard it on hannity and now developing on drudge.

    I’ve been thinking about stocking up on food, water and birdseed and this incident just lit a fire under my butt. tomorrow i do massive shopping. i just have a very bad feeling about november. i’m looking into pistol permits in NYS. i’m not kidding.

  195. Have you guys heard about this? OMG!!!

    SHOCK: MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH

    ‘B’ CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN’S FACE

    drudgereport.com

  196. You know what the saddest part is..only Fox News and the Drudge report are reporting on this!

  197. basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    anyone else hear cnn suggested McCain suspend his campaigel

    coz of BO’s granny visit?

    ———————————————————————-

    Are you serious? BO is not suspending his own campaign. His bitter half will be campaigning for him.

  198. thenextright.com/warner-todd-huston/obama-supporter-beats-up-mccain-supporter-media-silent

    this is sickkkkkkkkkkkk

  199. birdgal Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
    basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    anyone else hear cnn suggested McCain suspend his campaigel

    coz of BO’s granny visit?

    ———————————————————————-

    Are you serious? BO is not suspending his own campaign. His bitter half will be campaigning for him.

    Birdgal,

    Describing Michelle as Obama’s bitter half really cracked me up. You hit the nail right on the head!!

  200. Here’s an update on the beati

    thesilentmajority.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/up-date-on-the-assault-against-a-mccain-manhattan-volunteer/

  201. independent, birdgal,

    i read that at a couple of nq posts. i did a search but couldn’t find it. just wondering if anyone else
    heard it or it’s just a rumor.

    that mutilation story is friggin scary as hell.

    henry, i’ll check those stations.

  202. Bo wouldn’t suspend his campaign or postpone the debate when the economy tanked. I think this is a joke. CNN has lost all credibility. Do they want McCain to hold Obama’s hand as well?

  203. This is whats its come to, this sort of thing is going to bring out racial violence and its this sort of incident that will kick riots off.

    Murtha, Obama and his ilk have been stoking this with their, “get in their faces” shit.

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

    heres the news report

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.

    The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

  204. sotonightthatimightsee,

    Romney has been on Fox news just this week and last week as well as on the trail with McCain in support of him.

    Huckabee gives him a boost every weekend when his show is on.

    And to be honest, this is just what the bots want…someone posting on here and acting like they are beaten down by all the lies and corruption from their side.

  205. About my last post, I want to take back the smiley face — I hope we will heave a sigh of relief on Nov 5th. It is really no laughing matter for most of us.

  206. sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
    Here’s an update on the beati

    thesilentmajority.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/up-date-on-the-assault-against-a-mccain-manhattan-volunteer/
    ==
    I think this is a different one. This is manhattan, the carving in the face was Pittsburgh. Good Lord its rampant.

  207. LOL…basil,

    the problem is, that CNN is so in the tank with this creep that it wouldn’t surprise me in the least! 😉

  208. Hillary Clinton’s Horse-Thief Ancestor-FICTION!
    (a perfect example of how MSNBC operates and the blogosphere operates)

    Summary of Erumor:
    This email claims that Hillary Clinton is a genealogy enthusiast and discovered an ancestor who was hanged as a horse thief and bank robber in 1889. It was her great-great uncle Remus Rodham. The only picture of him was one of him standing on the gallows just before he was hung and had an inscription on the back describing his crimes, capture, and execution. When the account of great-great Uncle Remus was placed into Hillary’s family history, however, the picture was cropped to just a head shot of Remus along with a sanitized version of his story that was expertly created by Hilllary’s image-makers.

    The Truth:
    This is not true just like it was not true about Al Gore or George W. Bush. The essence of this story is from an old piece of humorous writing that was designed to demonstrate how you can put “spin” on a negative story to make it sound positive. Someone altered the story to make it seem as though it was talking about an ancestor of Al Gore. Then another version got started saying it was about an ancestor of Hillary Clinton. Now there is a version making the rounds saying it is about George W. Bush.

    A real example of the story as it has been circulated:

    modifying family history
    It’s all in the way you present it:

    Hillary, an amateur genealogical researcher, discovered that her great-great uncle, Remus Rodham, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.

    The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this inscription:

    “Remus Rodham; horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.”

    In Hillary’s Family History, her staff of professional image consultants, cropped Remus’s picture, scanned it in as an enlarged image, and edited with image processing software so that all that’s seen is a head shot. The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows:

    “Remus Rodham was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”

  209. moononpluto
    How do you do what you do? I did several searches using all of the local PGH media outlets and came up empty. You are thousands of miles away and you get it first? I am in this evil place and nothing shows up

  210. Idunn Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
    Some thing seems “off” to me about that mutilation story.
    ===
    What seems off Idunn??

  211. Idunn
    couple the faux mutilation story with “I’m not a redneck” and ya win over lots of votes.
    When I was in downtown PGH busting my ass for Senator Clinton mostly using Kerry numbers I heard over and over again that an individual was for her until she went negative and started attacking the black man. HELP!!!! NO kids of my own but I care about my boom boom and my pickles(she so respects Id–n)

  212. Here’s what puzzles me: atm machines have camera’s in front of them. So this woman had to have parked out of sight of the camera, right? Why would you do that? Then she’s robbed. Then the robber just happens to see a McCain sticker on her car, and comes back to punch her, kick her and carve a “b” into her face? Is this a REALLY remote atm machine? The robber just doesn’t give a shit if he gets caught? Then…they woman refuses medical treatment?

    Just…seems, I dunno , weird to me. Not saying it didn’t happen, just that it seems “off”, you know?

  213. here idunn,
    press conference soon.
    McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburg – Seperate attack in NYC
    In 2008 Presidential Elections on October 23, 2008 at 8:16 pm
    McCain volunteer and supporter attacked and mutilated in Pittsburg – ‘B’ Carved into 20-year old woman’s face…

    Update 1: The Pittsburgh bureau of police is preaparing a news conference. They are waiting for all the press to arrive.

    Update 2: The 20-year-old woman is a McCain staffer and volunteer from Texas.

    A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield, PA near Pittsburg was also mutilated by her attacker as soon as attacker learned the victim was a McCain supporter.

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard said t the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.

    The robber is described as a dark-skinned man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

    ————–

  214. JanH Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
    Bo wouldn’t suspend his campaign or postpone the debate when the economy tanked. I think this is a joke. CNN has lost all credibility. Do they want McCain to hold Obama’s hand as well?

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————–
    Jan, LOL!!!!! (McCain holding Obama’s hand)

  215. THE FALLIABILITY OF THE “INEVITABILITY” ARGUMENT

    rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
    Talk about biased polls, The Big10 Battleground just released polls showing Obama with a doublte digit lead in OH, PA, MI, MN, WI, IA, IN and IL.

    What you really have to look for is that Big10 Battleground is really the member universities of the Big10 in other words they are polls done by Obamatrons and the data does not give a breakdown of Republicans and democrats sampled.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Obama sought to discredit Hillary’s Inevitability Strategy, but in truth, he couldn’t stop her. Only the corrupt DNC in collusion w/ Obama could.

    Now, we are seeing that same strategy attempting to be used by the Obama campaign and their pals in Big Media.

    So you have fake little trumped up polls showing Obama with double digit leads in ridiculous places.

    The thing is, when it comes to closing the deal, Obama “can’t get it up”. He intimidated his way through caucuses, but look at the big juicy prizes where he “was ahead” in polls, and lost: NH, NJ, CA, TX, PA, etc. No amount of VotingViagra can help him get it up.

    McCain is the Anti-Obama. Trailing early, but picked up steam. Repubs went with him because he is a) centrist enough to win, b) extremely qualified. Obama: not centrist, not qualified.

  216. huh, I don’t know, other than the robber could have followed her to her car cause he knew about the cameras, but that makes you wonder why she walked to the ATM, and it sounded like he was just planning to rob her until he saw the sticker on her car, then decided to mutilate her.

  217. All I can say that in the pittsburgh area as a person who does not know how to drive and is such dependent upon public transpotration I have endured a tremendous amount of harrassment echoing back to the better days when we thought Senator Clinton would be the nominee. Since then I haqve chosen to wear a PALIn shirt causes a little disturbance here and tere but it is always white men who call me names. Makes me smile when I am sitting alone on a bus with a country first t-shirt on and someone assumes on a train that they can call me gay and tell me I am an idiot for ever voting republican. Thanks to all of you here I do not buckle. Admin you are brilliant.

  218. The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Doesn’t this fit Obama’s physical desription?

  219. wb(and then lots of vowels)
    disagreed with me the other day that I thought Murtha’s slights were intentional. I respectfully disagree as Murtha himself has said the community has changed. Everyone I have met in my life who is actually racist has no qualms about being referred to in that manner. But no one wants to be called a redneck. As Murtha said in his last statement the community has changed it has become more affluent so if you label the potential McCain voters as racists but then turn around and say we didn’t mean you we meantthose other people, you’re not ignorant white trash vote for the black guy and prove it.
    ———————————————
    henry: I cannot recall my exact comments but I thought what you were saying that over the top comments like those of Murtha are intended to counter the bradley effect by shaming guilty whites into voting for the faud–which I believe is true. But what I was saying was that
    it was more likely to alienate white voters and cause them to vote against a campaign that tries to put them in that box, especially when they can vote in the privacy of a voting booth. I still think that is true.

  220. Doesn’t this fit Obama’s physical desription?

    yeah…maybe it was emergency cash for a bit of blow down the street. 😉

  221. Who knows, its like rape when you get attacked like that, you dont want anyone to touch you, you want to run and hide, so maybe thats just the case, and besides who knows what way the journalists are reporting or even if correctly.

  222. Speaking of rape does anyone think it is a conincedence that the Duke rape case is being thrown back into the spotlight in NC less than 2 weeks before the election?

  223. rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
    Speaking of rape does anyone think it is a conincedence that the Duke rape case is being thrown back into the spotlight in NC less than 2 weeks before the election?

    ——————————————————————-

    Why? I thought, it had been settled. More race baiting?

  224. I’ve just made the biggest pot of irish stew and i’m loving it, sending out its warm earthy taste to my friends here, especially basil who deserves that warm feeling after getting well again, my mother always made this for me when i was ill.

  225. from hillbuzz:

    In Florida, Obama supporters shot at a McCain volunteers home — apparently because the man has McCain signs in his yard.

    If you do not support Obama, his followers apparently will shoot you in Florida and carve Obama’s initial into your face in Pennsylvania.

    Has any presidential candidate ever attracted more hate-filled violent people than Obama?

    Can you think of any? Because we can’t.

  226. wbboei
    I believe and I may be mistaken but believe that Murtha may have decided he is done but he can deliver a number of votes. A rasict has no problem with his feeliongs. Call me a redneck and I am pissed. Or I do not want to identify with said terms and as asuch I will vote for obama to prove to me that I am no a RASIST

  227. Bluegirl, are you the Bluegirl from PUMApac? Welcome either way. And, no there are no elitists here, here we are a group of very diverse people, with diverse backgrounds all willing to support and learn from each other.And that is just as it should be.

    Those of you from PA, you should be pretty happy with Murtha and Rendell’s reaction, right? I know I am. But if Rendell is able to convince Hillary and Bill to join nObama in PA, I will be mightily upset. Do any of you live in the part that was described as Alabama running down through the middle? If so, then I know for a fact that ya’ll are all good good people, as I said earlier, salt of the earth, better people could not be found than those.

  228. Moon,

    I’m Jewish and am going to ask a stupid question…lol…what exactly makes an “Irish Stew” Irish? 😉

  229. I’m dubbing this phrase “revenge voting” – that’s what happened in NH with women pissed as hell over the media coverage of Clinton.

    There will be lots of revenge voting against BO and his media gang this election cycle from Republicans and Dems and indies.

  230. from hillbuzz and i agree with every word.

    Obama supporters attacked a McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh today — carving a “B” for “Barack” into the flesh of someone who doesn’t support Obama.

    People — this is now officially worse than anything the McGovern kids did in 1972.

    The name-calling, rock-throwing, death threats, telephone harrassment, screaming and yelling, pushing and shoving, rat-f***ing political dirty tricks, and everything else Obama supporters have done – first to Clinton supporters and now McCain supporters – have always been bad, just like the things McGovern kids did in 1972 were bad.

    But, we never heard of McGovern kids carving “G”s into Nixon supporters’ faces. It never got this bad.

    Obama supporters are truly the most despicable people we’ve ever encountered – and we worked the Kerry, Gore, and 1996 Clinton campaigns. We’ve never seen any political supporters mutilate anyone’s flesh before.

    If you vote for Obama, you condone this behavior, and empower the thugs who commit acts of violence like this in his name.

    Why hasn’t Obama come out to tell his followers to stop doing this?

    Obama must stop his followers from mutilating the flesh of those who oppose him.

  231. This violence is very troubling, and will only become worse, if BO happens to get elected, or not. Bad either way.

  232. oh that would be telling Jan, mama’s recipe.

    Basil, do I ever, i make great soups especially potato and leek.

  233. So guys stay in, lock your doors come Nov 4th night because when McCain wins the wheels will definitely come off the Obama supporters bus.

  234. LOL…I guess I’ll just have to do some research. Enjoy the stew, moon. I bet it brings back great family memories. 🙂

  235. Obama is bringing out the worst sort of behavior. Crazies and criminals are now coming out of the woodwork because of him. I hope he’s proud of himself…NOT!

  236. Correllation or causation–you decide:

    1. The Obama campaign plays the race card against the Clintons in South Carolina. (See Professor Wilentz)

    2. Howard Dean calls Republicans the white people party.

    3. Bill Richardson makes racial appeal to Hispanic voters in support of the Obama candidacy.

    4. Chuck Todd of MSNBC calls the people of New Hampshire racists

    5. Jack Murtha (and other Dems) call their own constituents racists.

    6. Jessie Jackson III and former virginia governor wilder predicts riots in denver if obama does not receive the nomination–even though he ultimately lost the popular vote.

    7. Bots fire bomb the home of McCain supporter in Portland.

    8. Bot vandalize automobiles with McCain Palin bumperstickers.

    9. Bot assaults and mutilates McCain supporter who now does not want the publicity.

    10. Police in major cities prepare for unrest in major cities on or after election day.

    Q: Bambi lit the fuse. He did it to win the nomination and he is doing it again to win the election–he hopes. If the succeeds it may turn out to be a phryiic victory, when all is said and done.

  237. JanH Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
    Moon,

    I’m Jewish and am going to ask a stupid question…lol…what exactly makes an “Irish Stew”
    &&&&&&&&

    Tellin’ him he can’t put whiskey in his coffee.

  238. henry, idunn,

    i searched for more info on the mutilation story . . . henry, other posters say they haven’t heard about it on local pa stations. i dunno…..hannity is in pittsburgh today coz of a palin rally and he reported it . . .

    some posters are saying drudge was punked but here’s another report, fwiw.
    what went down with the McCain/Palin supporter who was allegedly attacked in Pennsylvania last night.

    According to Pittsburgh cops, around 9:30 PM last night, a female was robbed after she went to the ATM. The victim says during the robbery, the assailant saw the McCain/Palin sticker on her car and became “enraged.” He struck her and knocked her down, and allegedly carved a “B” on her cheek.

    The assailant is still at large. Police tell us all they have is a description — a man, 6’4″, with dark skin and dark clothes.

    A McCain spokesman confirmed to TMZ the victim volunteered in McCain’s Pennsylvania office.

  239. 12. chairman of the democratic North Caolina democratic party tells his party not to vote for any white politican–regardless of policies.

  240. Tellin’ him he can’t put whiskey in his coffee
    —————————————–
    Are you sure it isnt coffee in his whiskey?

  241. this is from the pittsburgh post gazette.

    Thursday, October 23, 2008
    By Michael A. Fuoco and Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    Pittsburgh Police are investigating a report by a campaign staffer for John McCain that she was mugged and the letter B was cut into her face following a robbery in Bloomfield last night.

    Police say the 20-year-old woman, who is from Texas, reported that the attack occurred around 9 p.m. after she withdrew $60 from an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street.

    She said a man armed with a knife demanded her money. She gave it to him and began walking toward her car, which has McCain stickers.

    Although the robber had moved away from her, he became agitated when he saw her car, punched her in the back of the head, pushed her to the ground and carved a B into her face, she reported.

    “This is what she’s telling police,” police spokeswoman Diane Richard said. “We can’t substantiate it at this time.”

    Police are checking video footage from a bank surveillance camera.

    Ms. Richard said the woman, who police are not identifying publicly, declined medical treatment at the scene.

    The suspect is described as black, 6 feet 4 inches, about 200 pounds. He was wearing dark clothing.

    The campaign of Barack Obama issued the following statement:

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice.”

    More details in tomorrow’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

  242. So guys stay in, lock your doors come Nov 4th

    Who’s gonna attack me…the bear, the deer, or the racoons? 😉

    (Do feel bad for you city kids, though. Yikes!)

  243. sorry, a bit long, more on the attack.

    Confirmed via the Pittsburgh news channel WTAE-TV:

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Thanks to faustasblog for the link

    UPDATE: More details coming from KDKA television, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh:

    PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ? Pittsburgh police are investigating after a volunteer for the Republican campaign says she was attacked by a mugger who became enraged after seeing a John McCain bumper sticker on her car.

    According to police, the 20-year-old woman said she was robbed at an ATM in the Bloomfield area around 9pm last night after leaving a Republican phone bank.

    The woman told police that the suspect, described only as a dark-skinned African-American man about 6′4″, stole $60 from her and became enraged after seeing a bumper sticker supporting Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain on her car.

    The woman said the suspect punched and kicked her.

    The McCain camp tells KDKA that the victim is a 20-year-old Republican from Texas.

    According to a campaign spokesperson, after seeing her bumper sticker supporting McCain, the suspect said, ‘Oh you’re with McCain, you’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.’”

    After beating the woman, the McCain camp says the suspect carved a “B” in her cheek for “Barack” Obama.

    Police, however, have not confirmed that.

    The unidentified woman reportedly declined immediate medical attention last night but said she would go to the hospital today.

    In an official statement the McCain campaign says: “We’re shaken up by this. It’s sick and disgusting.”

    Governor Sarah Palin reportedly spoke with the victim by phone.

    Meanwhile, late this afternooon, the Obama-Biden campaign released a statement, saying: “This is a horrendous act of violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice.”

    UPDATE #2: What is this news from a local Florida station? This is the first time I have heard of this story. Now, the victim doesn’t have any proof that this incident was politically motivated. However, I’m seeing a disturbing pattern here. As I reported yesterday, Governor Palin’s motorcade was mobbed by overzealous supporters. Next, a young lady gets her face carved, and now a local republican headquarters manager has his house shot up? Now, this could be a stretch by the victim, and I’m not outright accusing the Democrats’ of this alleged act. However, I’m not writing it off either. Another hat tip to the truth tracker. From Local Channel 6:

    Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
    ‘Democrats Far More Aggressive in Seminole County,’ Victim Says

    LONGWOOD, Fla. — The home of a Central Florida Republican headquarters manager was shot up and damaged over his support of Sen. John McCain, the man told police.

    Rog Coverely said several pellets pierced his Longwood home. Coverely showed several spiderwebbed-holes in the front windows of his home.

    The Republican manager said he is convinced he was targeted because of new McCain signs he added around his home.

    “All I can tell you is this, I have a very good relationship with my neighbors,” Coverely said. “I mow my lawn. The only thing that has changed is I have two McCain signs in my front yard.”

    Coverely said he has taken about 300 calls concerning stolen or vandalized McCain signs in the area.

    “It says this campaign is getting vicious,” Coverely said.

    Coverely said it appears Democrats are becoming more aggressive in the county.

  244. i searched for more info on the mutilation story . . . henry, other posters say they haven’t heard about it on local pa stations. i dunno…..hannity is in pittsburgh today coz of a palin rally and he reported it . . .

    some posters are saying drudge was punked but here’s another report, fwiw.
    what went down with the McCain/Palin supporter who was allegedly attacked in Pennsylvania last night.
    ——————————————-
    The police report would describe the witness account of the incident. The station has it and has probably interviewed the victim. If she was mutilated, there must be some reason she refused medical attention. That is the only thing I would be interested in knowing.

    The larger point however is that by making race a core strategy of his campaign obama has widened and deepened the fault lines in our society, and that is the hell of it. This was obvious from the beginning. It is why I was so disgusted with him that he did not defend Clinton on these things.

    That was before I realized that this was a planned strategy on his part. For confirmation of this you need only consult the article by Professor Wilentz entitled Race Man, and the City Edition article to see the degree to which he exploited that issue. A man who operates on this level cannot run a multi-racial country.

  245. idunn,
    in the last 5 years i taught in urban schools i was pushed down stairs, threatend with a baseball bat, punched in the eye and threatened with a gun by 4 different kids ages 9-15.

    People don’t understand what can happen – think the opening scenes of lean on me – these kids are young, strong, healthy, strong, bored and conscienceless.

    It’s not entirely evil, most of them probably don’t entirely comprehend the ramifications of their actions but that’s little consolation for those of us who wander into their paths.
    I’m going down to the county clerk’s office tomorrow for my pistol permit application.
    in th

  246. OBAMA is Phony…No authentic birth certificate….This man must be in jail.

    It is our turn to save this great country of ours…..

    Please do whatever you can do to STOP Obama….

    God Bless America…

  247. Looks like a hoax. B is backwards. Wouldn’t accept medical care. No witnesses. Out of way of camera. Prolly a hoax.

  248. Ok, I am posting a warning here before you read this, you make your own minds up but a new scandal may be about to blow.

    dumbama.blogspot.com/

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/10/about_those_oba.html

    Gross, there are real nude photo’s of Obama’s mother on the web and it is suspected that “Frank” took them.

    However the real news story here is the fact that the speculation is the real reason why Obama does not want his BC found is that his father is not Obama Sr but really is Frank Marshall Davis

  249. Basil: it has been said that a polite society is a well armed society. A friend of mine cites with appoval a small town in Georgia where everyone is armed and no one has to lock their doors. And while I would not carry the principle quite to that extreme it is a fact that police response can be inadequate, and there are circumsances where it is prudent to have a gun for personal protection.

  250. rgb44hrc

    “I would be remiss if I did not elucidate…
    how Obama juxtaposes the syllolgistic and vituperative…
    in exhorting the frenzied masses”’
    into abhorrent, misogynistic displays.”

    “Dammit, sometimes I just can’t help myself”
    ————————
    Just imagine Barry White moaning those words into a a fuzzy-headed microphone –

    Makes my knees feel like Obama jello…………

  251. A cure discovered for Obama Kool-aide drinkers?

    Scientists Erase Specific Memories in Mice

    By Alan Mozes
    HealthDay Reporter by Alan Mozes
    healthday Reporter – Wed Oct 22, 7:03 pm ET

    WEDNESDAY, Oct. 22 (HealthDay News) — It sounds like science fiction, by scientists say it might one day be possible to erase undesirable memories from the brain, selectively and safely.

    Using a complex genetic approach, U.S. and Chinese researchers believe they have done just that in mice, but the feat is far from being tested on humans.

    Study co-author Joe Z. Tsien, co-director of the Brain & Behavior Discovery Institute at the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, says the “work reveals a molecular mechanism of how [memory deletion] can be done quickly and without doing damage to brain cells.”

    The finding is published in the Oct. 23 issue of Neuron.

    Humans plagued by painful memories have long wished for a way to eject them from the brain. The concept was the premise of the popular 2004 film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, in which two former lovers pay a “memory-erasure” service to expunge the unhappy affair from their minds.

    To explore the possibility of safely carving away bits of memory, the study authors first focused on the activity of a common protein found only in the brain, called CaMKII.

    In both mice and people, this enzyme is often referred to as the “memory molecule” because of its key role in facilitating brain cell communication — especially people’s ability to learn and retain information.

    To hone in on the specific workings of CaMKII, Tsien and his team first developed a “chemical-genetic method” that enabled them to instantly turn the protein “on” or “off” among mice intentionally bred to overproduce the molecule.

    After exposing the mice to emotionally powerful stimulations, such as a mild shock to their paws, the scientists then observed how well or poorly the animals subsequently recalled the particular trauma as their brain’s expression of CaMKII was manipulated up and down.

    When the brain was made to overproduce CaMKII at the exact moment the mouse was prodded to retrieve the traumatic memory, the memory wasn’t just blocked, it appeared to be fully erased.

    This occurred without impacting the animal’s ability to recall any other memories, the scientists say.

    A similar observation was made in experiments involving the mice’s recognition of specific objects. In those cases, overexpression of CaMKII appeared to eliminate all memory of toys with which the mice had previously been exposed.

    According to Tsien, the animal study illustrates how the targeted erasure of specific memories might be genetically triggered in a controlled and harmless manner.

    The authors stressed that their work is in its infancy, but they believe it opens up the theoretical possibility of therapeutic applications for humans down the road. Memory erasure might help relieve trauma among people plagued by fearful memories, such as those with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), for example.

    “While memories are great teachers and obviously crucial for survival and adaptation, selectively removing incapacitating memories, such as traumatic war memories or an unwanted fear, could help many people live better lives,” Tsien said.

    However, Dr. Joe Verghese, an associate professor of neurology at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, cautioned that the animal work described in the study remains preliminary.

    “I think the idea of selectively targeting memory processes is very interesting,” he said, “because it not only opens up a whole area of possible intervention but also reveals something about the neurobiology that goes into creating memory in the brain.”

    “But memory in a human is much more complex than a memory in a mouse,” Verghese added. “So, this experimental model, while it brings to mind all sorts of possible applications, is many steps removed from any human application.”

    news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20081022/hl_hsn/scientistserasespecificmemoriesinmice

  252. thanks idunn.

    i like the sound of that – a ladysmith – isn’t that also the name of a south african singing group?

    moonpluto,

    i didn’t want to post andy martin’s newest theory but since you’ve brought it up, the rumor is bo was frank davis’s and anne durhams lovechild.

  253. wbboei,

    i like that! 🙂

    it’s a good thing i now live in the country where i won’t be able to actually hurt anyone until i learn to aim and shoot the darn thing. hehehehe

  254. basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 6:21 pm
    thanks idunn.

    i like the sound of that – a ladysmith – isn’t that also the name of a south african singing group?

    —————————————————-

    Yes. I saw them in concert about 6 years ago.

  255. on a blog that debbie schlussel linked too was this post 😀

    Some practical socialism

    Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08” tie, again I laughed–just imagine the coincidence.

    When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need– the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

    I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

    At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

  256. djia!!!!!!

    I am ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let’s just hope no one tries that on you! 😉
    (of course you’re not a BO supporter – hehehehe)

  257. LOL

    basil…….not a chance, it seems most in my area are voting McCain 😀

    although… I did have one guy calling me “Palin” the other night at the bar where i work (he’s for Senator Government)
    because I wear my hair like me (palin wears her hair like me!) he kept calling me palin
    and a feminist 😀 (yea he’s a real chauvinistic oiker but correct i do support womens rights intensely )

    yeah……..I really embarrassed him with FACTS he couldn’t and didn’t have a clue how to
    rebutt or perhaps he just didn’t know what to say to such a strong opinionated woman 😀

    His fiance’ came in afterward and he told her about our te’te and she sided with me 😀

    all in all…… not sure i changed his way of thinking (doubt it) but he did leave with a smile and was friendly still

  258. Someone was mentioning HRC in PA…

    Learned from another Pink Page Person today that he heard that Hillary is to be in Pitsburgh tomorrow, but of course not with Precious, cause he will be calling on the sick, body surfing or making a court appearance…or all three on the island of Owahu tomorrow.

  259. McCain (re obama) to a reporter today ” stand by you will probably hear another policy change depending on the current polling data” LMAO!!!!!!

  260. The assault on a McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh could be a n early start of the Obama campaign for Empowerment and Spread the Wealth promises.Murtha was not off mark with his statement about Race in this area but did not indicate who the guilty party might be.Is this a preview of things to come?

    BY ABM90 What has the Hustler done to our country?

  261. Forgot to say

    There goes Rendell’s wish list for Clinton campaigning power for his state…she won’t be flashing that million watt smile in BO’s presence soon, at least not in PA.

  262. So let me guess. A media swarm to Hawaii to feature 99% of the news on poor Obama and maybe 1% left for negative reporting on McCain.

    Yep that seems about par to me. 😉

  263. This bullying aggression from O people has been obvious through the entire campaign. And what happens, they call McCain out for it as a few frustrated supports speak out at a Rally.

  264. The assault story was on all of the 6pm news TV channels.As for the reversed letter “B”it also happened on an earlier newscast about small children in their classroom and all of the printing on the blackboard and on the T-shirts were backword.Could it be MSM news shaping?Perhaps a technician forgot to reverse the camera or film.Not familiar with news editing may be in play,alive and well.

    By ABM90

  265. SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW TO ANSWER A BOT (IF YOU MUST, AND HE IS NOT TOO BUSY SLASHING TIRES OF MCCAIN SUPPORTERS)

    1. NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE: Obama has no executive experience;no legislation passed, exc. global poverty initiative at 800 billion.

    2. NO MORAL COURAGE: Obama has failed to take a stand on controversial issues (voted present 130 times)

    3. TOXIC ALLIANCES: Obama not only associated with vile people, he formed political alliances with them and tried to cover it up (rezko- 9 hours legal work, ayers-just a guy who happened to live in my neighborhood. ACORN alliance.

    4. ANTI-REFORM: Obama is a product of the Chicago Machine and fought against the forces of reform. (public project reform, nuclear plants, etc.)

    5. CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Obama is up to his neck in the current financial crisis, i.e. earmarks, fanney mae contributions (second most), franklin raines as advisor. Not represent constituents.

    6. ECONOMIC DISASTER: Obama would tank the economy–for sure not for maybe. (stock market plunge if he is elected, people moving money out of country now, tax plan would destroy small business–4% increase on FICA + 4% surcharge–causes massive job loss), elimination of tax exclusion on sale of home up to $250k of profit.

    7. RACE MAN: Obama exploits the racial issue (Professor Wilentz + City Edition).

    8. FOREIGN AFFAIRS DISASTER: meet with our enemies within 1 year and no preconditions.

    9. MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE: his entire backgound is foggy, yet he has received half a billon dollars in campaign contributions, some of it from foreign sources he refuses to identify.

  266. Here is a better video.

    Look on the right side.

    kdka.com/politics/McCain.Campaign.Worker.2.847449.html

    If it seems like I am obsessed with this story, you’re right, I am. This is what we can expect if BO gets in the WH.

  267. moonpluto,

    When I lived in NYC I was mugged 3 times (no- my life has not only been about violence although from my posts today you might not know ite).

    Once a guy whipped out a gun after stealing my purse and told me to keep walking. i did.

    Another time, when I was going to a rehearsal on 19th between 5th and 6th and carrying all my instuments a guy kicked and beat me and stole my instruments. I was injured and should have sought medical attention but the last thing i wanted to do was go to a hospital.
    i can understand why the McCain staffer chose to wait until the next day. the trauma is overwhelming and if the injuries aren’t life-threatening it makes perfect sense to calm down before subjecting yourself to questions, police reports, medical exams, etc. I hope they find that mf***er and stick him in a jail full of republican prisoners. 👿

  268. exactly, thats what i said earlier, when things like that happen to you, you tend to want to hide and go into shock, its human nature.

    Poor girl, she probably was frightened out of her mind, in a strange town, no one knows her, I’d be scared too.

  269. Thats a couple of shiners right there, notice the B is backwards, why do it backwards.

    My guess is that he was standing behind her head and leaned over. Thus, the “b” is backwards on her face, but would have been correct from his p.o.v.

  270. Wow welcome you PA people.yes dont cling to your GUNS its Pheaseant Hunting time right now here with lotts and lotts BIg time Hunters from all over the world hunting LOL…The Like the Mccain signs .. NO BO..we are gonna keep our guns..Southdakota 100 percent MCCain/Palin..
    we all here MIss Hillary…people that i have talked to will not vote BO..and its alott…

    tanks admin for that video of John Mccain..man what a TRUE American hero!!!and such a truthful person leats i wont vote for a LIAR and fraud.

  271. birdgal

    McCain has told his people to calm down and respect everyone’s rights.

    When will Obama come out with this. If it has hit the news stations, he will need to say something. Of course we will vet this poor girl extensively first, down to what she ate for dinner the night before, and when she last had SXX.

    MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK FOR HER BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

  272. basil9
    15 yrs ago right off the corner 45 and 9th I was walking home at 430am. A couple of guys jumped me as I was putting my key in the door, Grabbed me by the back of my head and slammed it repeatedly against the door. I never saw them they sat on my body and rifled through my pockets. I had been drunk but when I woke up the next day I called off work I was ashamed. I have an indent above my left eye from where they broke my skull. I probably never even would have gone to the doctors had my boss/friend not chosen to look in on me. My point is simply that I was ashamed that it had happenned. People react to violence differently. Especially when you cannot react in kind.

  273. I am just guessing, but if they catch this guy with a knife, I will lay you odds he is an ex-felon who barack has gone to great length to register to vote. That would explain why took that action. Obviously, the media is culpable too, but it began with loveable Barack.

    Certainly, Baracks message reached this criminal in some form, but as Barack might well say he did not understand. True. But when you are a Messiah like Barack is, and when you speak in eternal truths like Barack always does, there will be varying interpretations of your worlds.

    Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Messiah to be circumspect and not exploit certain issues for political gain. If he violates that prescript, trouble will ensue, as it did here.

  274. Also, not that I’m suggesting ANYTHING…but if you stood facing a mirror and scratched the letter “b” on your own face, it would also likely appear backwards. I wouldn’t be surprised if police considered this, and that’s part of the reason for her second interview.

    (again…not suggesting she’s lying, just saying the police will want to consider every possiblility, you know?)

  275. Yep. Said they hoped the guy was caught, and that their thoughts and prayers went out to her, or something to that effect.

  276. geez idunn, you’ve come up with two great explanations. you watch a lot of CSI?? 😉

    also, CJ….nice to hear from you!

  277. geez idunn, you’ve come up with two great explanations. you watch a lot of CSI??

    Maybe I was a homicide detective before I became a raggedy old farm wife. 😛

  278. bluegirl Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    Is this an elitist blog?
    *************************
    couldn’t possibly be an elitist blog with me posting now and then. my third grade teacher informed my mom at a teacher-parent conference i was destined to be an elementary school drop-out. however, i had the last laugh and made it through. it’s those Harvard law review president’s you have to be leery of!

    night all!

  279. # rjk1957 Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    The robber could be dyslexic or the negative could have been reversed.
    ——————————-

    He could be standing over/near her head.

  280. rjk are you serious henry winkler for Obama..OMG i walked in to a resturant .and he look right at me as i came in i had the slighest idea who he was.there were 4 of us in line to pay he was one of them someone in that 4 reconized him ..so long story short he sign my check and then told me as i walked in i looked like his sister LOL…come to think about he looks thugish LOL..he is short too like 5ft 4..no happy days for me either…anyone for OFraudliar i block too..

  281. henry,

    Hell’s Kichen, huh? (or is that below 42?)

    Personally, I beleive the staffer’s story and she sure had the sh!t beat out of her. If it was dark and she is no from the area and is only 20 i can only imagine that her first instinct, after having survived the beating and robbery, would be to contact someone she knew. From what I read, it was after she got to her friend’s nearby apartment that they went back to the scene to talk with police. Makes perfect sense to me. And that backwards B doesn’t look like something she could inflict on herself.

    I’m just glad the poor thing is ok, at least physically. She’ll carry the emotional scars of what happened for years as you probably know all too well, henry. We don’t realize it when it’s happening but that sort of violation shapes us, often in ways we never could have forseen.

    glad you made it through, henry. NYC is a fascinating exhilerating and dangerous place.

  282. You guys remember that vicious Ezra Stead video, right? The one where he talks about wanting to rape Tipper Gore, Sarah Palin , etc. etc. The New Agenda is making the guys world a living hell. LOL!

    Go New Agenda, GO!!!

    thenewagenda.net/2008/10/22/together-we-can-make-a-difference/

  283. I LOVE this video!!!!!
    Morris said today he thinks JM can win coz he just made a smart media buy of 2500 points and it’s mostly for Joe the Plumber ads. Morris says that is resonating strongly with the public and we should know by Monday how well it will work,

    This isn’t a JM-approved ad but it’s wonderful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS0OYjMKCdc&eurl

  284. WOW!

    there is a lot of doubt out there about the staffer attack and some posters calling it a hoax. i still beleive it. here’s anothe take.

    I spoke with two executives at the College Republicans on the record about this story. Charlie Smith, the National Chair, and Ethan Eilon, the Executive Director, both say the photo is legitimate and that it came from Ashley Todd, the victim in this case. The attack began at 8:50 pm ET and Ashley called the police at 9:30 PM ET. Initially, she was robbed, ran away after the robbery, and the robber followed her to her car. At that point, he became enraged at the bumper sticker and began beating her and scratched the ‘B’ into her face. Ashley went to the hospital early this morning after initially refusing medical attention last night, and had an MRI and/or a CAT scan. Doctors believe her cheek will heal fully.

    Eilon spoke with her personally today about the incident and confirmed the above with me. He first met Ashley in June, when she came to DC for training with the College Republicans. She works for them as a contract employee. She does not work for the McCain campaign. Both Eilon and Smith expressed revulsion over an attack on a young woman just getting involved in politics, but they consider this the act of a lone lunatic.

    I’m not going to blame people for keeping a healthy skepticism on this case, but so far, the two media reports appear to check out.

  285. I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.

  286. so far I’ve been called a bamboozler, okie doker, hoodwinker, bitter, gun clinging, bible hugging, racist, redneck, typical white person

    I need a therapist

  287. I absolutely believe that poor girl, it would be awfully hard to beat yourself up that badly. And it seems to be a pattern, not an isolated incidence.

  288. Yep. Said they hoped the guy was caught, and that their thoughts and prayers went out to her, or something to that effect.
    —————————————-
    pro-forma

  289. I believe there is hated in the obama campaign. We saw it in the primary directed at Hillary. Part of it comes from Michelle, but it spreads out from there. The whitey tape and API interview will shed important light on this. The leaders of any organization define the culure, and what is permissable. Boundary markers must be laid down.

    Organizations are willing to to blame the perpetator but are reluctant to proceed up the line to the people who set the tone or failed to lay down markers. It is okay to hang privates, corporals and sergeants, but senior officers get off lightly or they are not touched. We saw that at the Iraq prison. Nobody dares to connect the dots.

  290. I was watching Sarah and Hannity a while ago and something ocurred to me. They were talking like if bambi gets in he will be tested to see if he can handle the presidency and even McCain has been saying that he (McCain) won’t have to be tested since he’s experienced.

    But what I thought of is when Biden said that bambi will need our help and it won’t seem like what he’s doing is right at the time. Maybe bambi has a plan already drawn with some other country to supposedly do something to us so that he can get us to do his bidding and in doing so, we will acutally be helping him accomplish something that we wouldn’t ordinarily want done and that would be his way of getting it done. Maybe he got Biden to say that so when it happens, we’ll all be prepared and go along with whatever it is.

    I don’t know if I’ve explained myself clearly, but I hope I did. Maybe my thinking is way off base, but that thought just hit me when I was watching them talk about it.

  291. I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.
    ——————————————–
    They hired Berg as their attorney did they not? I assume he know what is going on.

  292. I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.
    ——————————————–
    They hired Berg as their attorney did they not? I assume he know what is going on
    —————————————
    If money was their thing, then I believe they would have taken this to bambi before any public announcement. On the other hand, perhaps they did, got no bite and decided to up the ante. I think they are biding their time, and so is Corsi. Internal polling may determine what gets used and when. In watching them operate, they seem to be methodical and risk adverse.

  293. wbboei

    So will Berg lay the bomb. He is the Lawyer also in court about the Birth Certificate is he NOT.

    Just trying to understand what we are waiting for.

  294. will do RJK…i guess those liberals come out of the closet,geez..I blobvked there shows CNN msnbc has not been on my tv for 8 months..lol..they tried to trash hillary …they are crooked news stations

    That sarah palin has got me hooked ..I like her truthfullness..and
    be Sarah ..Wow she got elizabeth hasselback just endorse Sarah
    and her cohorts were hillary and core democrats they all of a sudden turn into Liberals..lol..GO Mac/Palin

  295. NewMexicoFan: berg is the attorney on the bc issue, and API announced that they had hired him to negotiate on their behalf wiht the several networks who are seeking to purchase and use it. If I recall correctly they said some networks claimed they had a deal when in fact they did not, according to API. If NBC buys it with bambi money it will never see the light of day. The term for that is preclusive buying you buy something you do not need to prevent your competitor from having it and using it against you. But given the fact that they hired berg and say they want the truthe out I think the chances are fairly good that we will see it before the election. That is my best guest.

  296. africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/michelle-obama-tapes-imminent-release-approaching-api-in-a-serious-negotiation-with-fox-news-on-the-best-way-forward/

    API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.

    API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day – the 4th of November.

    API will make use of Legal Representation in the US when finalising the hand-over of the tapes and on any�legal matters that may arise after the contents of the tapes become public.

    We want to thank all our readers – those who have managed to be patient and also those who have exhibited total impatience. We assure them that an agreement will be reached soon between API and FOX NEWS one way or another, so that API fulfills the promise it gave to the readers.

  297. JanH Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Colmes has got to be the most stupid and obnoxious men in the world masquerading as a journalist

    I agree jan arrogant and stupid…his explaning and his rambling makes me mute him offf..and he is plain ole Nonsense..I hope they fire HIM
    I think hannity needs a sidekick

  298. there is a lot of doubt out there about the staffer attack and some posters calling it a hoax. i still beleive it. here’s anothe take.
    —————————————-
    Those posters are idiots. We need to wait and see what the police investigation shows. Bambi supporters should keep their powder dry pending completion of the investigation. That is not in their nature but for once in their lives they need to exercise a little self restraint–and grow up. The fact that the College Republicans vouch for the photo is one factor. It would be a mistake for them to do so if they had doubts. But that is not dispositive. The professionals will evalutate the story for internal consistency and whether it comports with the law of probability. They also evaluate her credibility. With or without it the pattern I described above is highly problematic.

  299. Shorttermer, no I’m not the bluegirl from pumapac. I don’t go there. And yes, I live in the “T” of PA. I’m in central PA.

    I’ve just been getting pretty much caught up with the posts since I was in earlier today, and I want to thank everyone for all your comments to mine.

    They were all very much appreciated. Smiley face here, lol.

  300. CJ,

    It’s just that he cuts everyone off. If he doesn’t like what they are saying about his messiah, he rudely cuts in and ridicules them.

    Hannity does need a new partner…sigh.

  301. Jan H. I don’t like Colmes either. I don’t like the looks of him and he really irritates me to no end, lol. I wish they would take him off and just let Sean do the show.

  302. Good Evening All:
    Just returned from a campaign wine & cheese party for a local congressman and thought I’d pass along the scuttlebutt. (Mind you, I don’t know these people so I can’t weigh the veracity of their comments, but I thought it was interesting that they’re talking about the same things we are!) The 3 topics of conversation were: 1) Will McCain win PA (no surprise there), 2) What’s happening with the Berg case and, 3) Why the big BHO media buy next week.
    The feeling is that McCain can take PA but it will be a real squeaker and HRC & WJC have to stay out of the state. Rendell’s lukewarm endorsement of BHO will help and, of course, Murtha & Biden are the gifts that keep on giving.
    There’s alot of interest in the Berg case, partly because it’s a local suit but also because no one can figure out why BHO didn’t just present the certified copy and be done with it instead of hiring attorneys. The feeling is that there’s something definitely there that may be difficult to explain to Joe Public. It may not be enough to disqualify him, but enough to bring his patriotism into question AGAIN. One thing everyone was concerned about was that questions regarding this issue should NOT be brought up by the McCain camp in case it’s a trap. (Frankly, I never thought of this angle.)
    There were a few different thoughts about the big media buy next week. The most obvious was that he needed the time to seal the deal which he’s been unable to do. Another thought was that the time would be needed to fend off/defend an October surprise. (This person also said that there would be no October surprise until AFTER his tv show to ensure there was little time to refute it.) A few people thought he was going to discuss his dual citizenship issue.
    Some of this stuff sounds a little too conspiratorial to me but, given what we’ve seen thus far, nothing would surprise me.
    Again, take it all with a grain of salt.

  303. Wow, as usually, you ask a question on this blog, and you get an expert answer. Thank you.

    Socal4hill, I sure hope it comes out soon. But then for us it is old news. Isn’t the NYTs getting ready to hit McCain’s wife? That might be in retalization for the release about MO.

    Thus they would seem to try to neutralize the news.

  304. # basil9 Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 6:21 pm
    i didn’t want to post andy martin’s newest theory but since you’ve brought it up, the rumor is bo was frank davis’s and anne durhams lovechild.
    =========

    Er, isn’t Davis a US citizen? That sort of shoots the non-citizen BO thing in the foot, doesn’t it?

    Not veyr confidence inspiring — if Martin is really the source of this.

  305. It’s just that he cuts everyone off. If he doesn’t like what they are saying about his messiah, he rudely cuts in and ridicules them.
    ————————————–
    That is because he has the attention span of a flea. If he does not cut in he forgets what he is thinking. I believe Hannity loves having him as a partner, just as much as Putin would love to have Bambi as his opposite number. In both cases they would prefer to have a weak opponent than a strong one. It is the law of the jungle.

  306. What is up with Jerome Corsi?
    Regarding the Jewish votes for Obama, It is my understanding that many of these voters are afraid to be called a racist if they admit who they will really vote for. People by nature are afraid.
    Protecting Israel has always been the number one reason not to vote for Obama. Biden indicates that is the first place Obama is going to.

  307. I cannot understand why any Jewish person would even consider voting for this empty shell of a man. The lessons of the 2nd world war should be brought into focus here. They do not want this friend of terrorists to be in charge of, what has been to date, Israel’s closest ally.

    I am praying that come election day, they will do what is right.

  308. BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING!

    Democrat: Obama’s grandma confirms Kenyan birth
    ‘This has been a real sham he’s pulled off for the last 20 months’
    Posted: October 23, 2008
    11:33 pm Eastern

    Philip J. Berg

    The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualifications to run for the office of president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator’s paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

    The issue of Obama’s birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his “Certification of Live Birth” from Hawaii.

    But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged, a publicized newspaper notice announcing Obama’s birth in Honolulu could have been faked and he has a tape recording he will be releasing over the next few days.

    “This has been a real sham he’s pulled off for the last 20 months,” Berg told Savage. “I’ll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States.”
    He said the telephone call was from Obama’s paternal grandmother affirming she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.”

    Berg said he’s pursuing the issue because of “the most important document in the United States,” the U.S. Constitution.

    “Nothing is more important than enforcing the Constitution,” he said. “The Constitution’s provisions are very small for qualifying for president. One, be over 35, and he is. Two, be in the country 14 years and he has been. Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not.”

    Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they’ve declined to return WND requests for comment on the issues.

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931

  309. October 24, 2008
    McCain for President
    By Charles Krauthammer

    WASHINGTON — Contrarian that I am, I’m voting for John McCain. I’m not talking about bucking the polls or the media consensus that it’s over before it’s over. I’m talking about bucking the rush of wet-fingered conservatives leaping to Barack Obama before they’re left out in the cold without a single state dinner for the next four years.

    I stand athwart the rush of conservative ship-jumpers of every stripe — neo (Ken Adelman), moderate (Colin Powell), genetic/ironic (Christopher Buckley) and socialist/atheist (Christopher Hitchens) — yelling “Stop!” I shall have no part of this motley crew. I will go down with the McCain ship. I’d rather lose an election than lose my bearings.

    First, I’ll have no truck with the phony case ginned up to rationalize voting for the most liberal and inexperienced presidential nominee in living memory. The “erratic” temperament issue, for example. As if McCain’s risky and unsuccessful but in no way irrational attempt to tactically maneuver his way through the economic tsunami that came crashing down a month ago renders unfit for office a man who demonstrated the most admirable equanimity and courage in the face of unimaginable pressures as a prisoner of war, and who later steadily navigated innumerable challenges and setbacks, not the least of which was the collapse of his campaign just a year ago.

    McCain the “erratic” is a cheap Obama talking point. The 40-year record testifies to McCain the stalwart.

    Nor will I countenance the “dirty campaign” pretense. The double standard here is stunning. Obama ran a scurrilous Spanish-language ad falsely associating McCain with anti-Hispanic slurs. Another ad falsely claimed McCain supports “cutting Social Security benefits in half.” And for months Democrats insisted that McCain sought 100 years of war in Iraq.

    McCain’s critics are offended that he raised the issue of William Ayers. What’s astonishing is that Obama was himself not offended by William Ayers.

    Moreover, the most remarkable of all tactical choices of this election season is the attack that never was. Out of extreme (and unnecessary) conscientiousness, McCain refused to raise the legitimate issue of Obama’s most egregious association — with the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Dirty campaigning, indeed.

    The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism. An apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. A nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation. A rising Russia pushing the limits of revanchism. Plus the sure-to-come Falklands-like surprise popping out of nowhere.

    Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who’s been cramming on these issues for the last year, who’s never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateralism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of “a world that stands as one”), and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as “the tragedy of 9/11,” a term more appropriate for a bus accident?

    Or do you want a man who is the most prepared, most knowledgeable, most serious foreign policy thinker in the United States Senate? A man who not only has the best instincts, but has the honor and the courage to, yes, put country first, as when he carried the lonely fight for the surge that turned Iraq from catastrophic defeat into achievable strategic victory?

    There’s just no comparison. Obama’s own running mate warned this week that Obama’s youth and inexperience will invite a crisis — indeed a crisis “generated” precisely to test him. Can you be serious about national security and vote on Nov. 4 to invite that test?

    And how will he pass it? Well, how has he fared on the only two significant foreign policy tests he has faced since he’s been in the Senate? The first was the surge. Obama failed spectacularly. He not only opposed it. He tried to denigrate it, stop it and, finally, deny its success.

    The second test was Georgia, to which Obama responded instinctively with evenhanded moral equivalence, urging restraint on both sides. McCain did not have to consult his advisers to instantly identify the aggressor.

    Today’s economic crisis, like every other in our history, will in time pass. But the barbarians will still be at the gates. Whom do you want on the parapet? I’m for the guy who can tell the lion from the lamb.
    letters@charleskrauthammer.com

  310. Obama Race Baiting Interview From 1995 Revealed, Will Media Ignore?
    By John Stephenson | October 24, 2008

    Listen to this audio from a 1995 interview where Obama says a blatant race baiting statement implying that whites don’t want to pay taxes to inner city children for them to go to school. The interview is full of defense on Obama’s socialistic views on taxation, and other controversial remarks.

    It took the “new media” and blogs to dig this information up. This would have never seen the light of day if it were left up to the mainstream media. Now that it has been brought into the light, will the media pick up their fumbled ball and run with it? I doubt it, but perhaps if enough blogs report on it they can be shamed into doing so. They won’t report on this unless they have to.

    newsbusters.org/

  311. djia, where did you get that info, I hope he does play the tape in a couple of days, someone needs to put an end to this fiasco the democrats have perpetuated on the American people. Pls play the tapes!!

  312. # Idunn Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Thats a couple of shiners right there, notice the B is backwards, why do it backwards.

    My guess is that he was standing behind her head and leaned over. Thus, the “b” is backwards on her face, but would have been correct from his p.o.v.
    ==========

    Makes sense. If there was a prone body, the easiest way to get at the face would be from behnd the head.

  313. wbboei

    just got out of an unannounced Windows update which was going when I found this…

    one of the 4 parts of Gigi’s film–the other thing I was trying to pass on.

    This is the sharpest of the videos and has the other 3 parts available on sight as well.

    Once you get there, be warned, this is the most compelling I think…but it is probably best to watch them in order, 1-4.

    Part 3 of “We Will Not Be Silenced.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8&eurl

  314. ABC’s Cynthia McFadden (Unsuccessfully) tries to bait Hillary into attacking Palin

    transcript:

    h t t p : / / newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2008/10/23/cynthia-mcfadden-clinton-comparisons-palin-must-rankle-you

  315. wbboei and others,

    GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN: It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.

    MCFADDEN: Does she deserve, does she have the right to stand on your shoulders in this regard?

    CLINTON: You know what, I think we all stand on other people’s shoulders. I believe that you can hold two thoughts simultaneously. You can hold the thought that she’s an extraordinary woman. But that doesn’t mean that she and John McCain should lead our country. For a million reasons that I think people understand.

    MCFADDEN: But it must rankle you, I mean, to be compared to Sarah Palin.

    CLINTON: It doesn’t. None of this rankles me at all. I mean it really doesn’t.

    MCFADDEN: You said something just a moment ago downstairs that I must say made sit up straighter.

    CLINTON: [Speech clip]: You know, I didn’t set out to run as a woman for president, but that’s the only way I could run. [Clip ends] Well, I was really saying, you know, I didn’t consider myself the woman candidate. Although obviously I was. I mean, that’s who I am. But as I got into the campaign and realized that’s how people were seeing me, for better or for worse in some situations, that there was this historical burden that I was carrying, that I had not anticipated. It became apparent that there’s a lot of unfinished business in our country when it comes to gender.

    h t t p : / / newsbusters.org/comment/reply/25532#comment-form

    =========

    This ‘historical burden’ sounds like the ‘narrative’ I was mumbling about yesterday(?).

  316. h t t p : / / http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3if5f4f8d2ae5cf7f0d578b947b607da7d

    Hillary Clinton boosts ‘Nightline’
    Exclusive interview tops Letterman and Leno Tuesday

    By Paul J. Gough
    Oct 22, 2008, 05:20 PM ET

    NEW YORK — Cynthia McFadden’s exclusive interview with Hillary Rodham Clinton boosted “Nightline” to a win Tuesday night against both NBC’s “Tonight Show With Jay Leno” and CBS’ “Late Show With David Letterman.”

    “Nightline” averaged a 3.5 overnight household rating/8 share in the metered markets, Nielsen Media Research said Wednesday afternoon. That beat both “Tonight” and “Late Show,” which each averaged a 3.4/9.

    In the interview from Nebraska where Clinton was stumping for Barack Obama, the former Democratic presidential candidate told McFadden that she needed to recharge after losing to Obama but she’s fully committed to the campaign.

  317. While I have not always agreed with his views, I would like to thank Mr. Charles Krauthammer for being a shining star of reason at the moment!

    That was an excellent article.

  318. If this tape of Obama’s grandmother actually exists, why hasn’t Berg brought it forward before now? I’m not saying he doesn’t have it, but I just wonder why he didn’t bring this out when he got it and stop this whole charade. Maybe this is another reason why Obama is off to Hawaii.

    And given the violent climate out their, I hope Berg stays safe.

  319. Obama is so screwed

    Group’s Tally of New Voters Was Vastly Overstated

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/us/politics/24acorn.html?_r=2&scp=2&sq=acorn&st=cse&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

    On Oct. 6, the community organizing group Acorn and an affiliated charity called Project Vote announced with jubilation that they had registered 1.3 million new voters. But it turns out the claim was a wild exaggeration, and the real number of newly registered voters nationwide is closer to 450,000, Project Vote’s executive director, Michael Slater, said in an interview. The remainder are registered voters who were changing their address and roughly 400,000 that were rejected by election officials for a variety of reasons, including duplicate registrations, incomplete forms and fraudulent submissions from low-paid field workers

  320. excellent ad, meiyingsu.

    Everyone,
    HRC’s attorneys were aware of the orchestrated caucus coup efforst as early as Jan 19.
    WTH didn’t HRC pursue this?

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/weve-said-all-along-that-this-nomination-was-stolen-proof-others-know-so-too/

  321. Hi moonpluto.

    Here’s more proof BO was personally involved in mortage fraud and the subprime meltdown.

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/hey-america-wake-up/

    hillbuzz is cooking today. Di you send them some of that irish stew? 😉

  322. Couldn’t resist this one.

    here’s what BO was suing about.

    (from hillbuzz)

    ‘Seeking redress for alleged racial discrimination and discriminatory redlining practices in connection with citibank’s home loan approval process.’

  323. here’s the rest.
    BO is listed as one of the litigators in this case. (from hillbuzz)

    ‘……..Seeking redress for alleged racial discrimination and discriminatory redlining practices in connection with citibank’s home loan approval process.

    Plaintiffs allege that this data strongly suggests African American home loan applicants . . . . were discriminated against by Citibank in large numbers . . . . these statistics demonstrate Citibank had a policy of rejecting home applications on the basis of the applicants’ race, color or the racial composition of the neighborhoods in which their properties were located.’

  324. There you go. Race-baiting Obama, his wife, and his DNC cohorts have regressed U.S. race-relations so far back that they will never recover.

    What a reprehensible state of affairs.

  325. now isnt it funny that

    Frank Marshall Davis was from Kansas
    Barry’s mother was from Kansas
    Frank Marshall Davis moved to Hawaii
    Barry’s mother moved to Hawaii
    Frank Marshall Davis was an avowed Communist
    Barry is at the least, a Socialist, but is drawn to Communists (Bill Ayers and Alice Palmer).

  326. moonpluto,

    coincidence? 👿

    BTW,
    there’s now talk about the JM supporter being asked to take a polygraph. on fox now.

  327. and basil no, i dont think its coincidence, i think she knew FMD well before Obama Sr and its entirely possible the name on that birth cert where the fathers name is different than the one its supposed to be.

  328. But as I got into the campaign and realized that’s how people were seeing me, for better or for worse in some situations, that there was this historical burden that I was carrying, that I had not anticipated. It became apparent that there’s a lot of unfinished business in our country when it comes to gender.
    ——————————————
    Hillary is mind-boggling to me. Jean Houston nailed it when she described her in archetypal terms as the wise woman or high priestess. She is someone who could lead this country back to a path where all boats rise with the tide. It is tragic that poisonous media snakes like McFadden love to cluster around her and constantly run their lying tongues and rattle their obscene tales–which bear no relationship to the truth.

    We are in a severe financial crisis, we have two wars, looming terrorist threats, social unrest, and a woefully unqualified candidate for president yet the most profound question mcfadden can ask Hillary is whether she is, in effect, jealous of Palin. Hillary gives her a profound answer, yet dimwitted McFadden fails to follow-up. But why should she? It wasn’t in her script.

    It is strange to live in a country where you can no longer read the newspaper or watch television because there is no truth to be found in them, just an obscene agenda beneficial to them not us. The great interest they show in her serving Obama now fits in nicely with the Lanny Davis meme that she was only in the race to make Barack a better candidate. I will spare you the Riverdaughter diatribe on that one which is brilliant and quite truthful.

  329. yes but Basil, if its true then its even worse because Obama will have purported a huge scam, he knew and deliberately fabricated his history as the real history is way worse, if FMD is the real daddy.

  330. And then, we have BO’s paternal grandmother saying that she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Too many conspiracy theories floating around out there. Which theory is the correct one?

  331. Bluegirl — let’s get something straight about ‘elites’.

    Elite doesn’t mean smart or well-educated. It often means rich or those who emulate them with the trendy stuff or going to the elite schools and who spend a lot of time proving that they are the ‘chosen ones’ by flaunting their possessions and looking down on anyone who doesn’t agree with them. There is no point in being elite if you can’t be superior to others, and the more elite you are, the better.

    This blog is the opposite of elite. We don’t ask for credentials before someone has an interesting opinion, or information, or helpful suggestions. If we like their posts, we don’t need to know if they are suitably ‘in’. If you’re smart, one thing you know is that all wisdom doesn’t reside in a herd, even if that herd is small and exclusive.

    Here we truly appreciate our diversity and I, for one, am nearly always surprised when someone mentions their gender or race or orientation. It isn’t important except that it shows we are not all “uneducated, poor, white, bitter, and clinging”. I love how many people have new info, or give us other sites to read, or follow certain stories to keep us up. Here is my tiny contribution to not much:

    There are several reoccurring errors that many people – including great writers that I have edited -make:

    Its and It’s. This is counterintuitive because ‘it’s’ is NOT the possessive. It is merely a contraction for It is. ‘Its’ is the possessive. Thus, “It’s time to go.” and “Its time has come.”

    There and their. Their is the adjective. “Their time”
    Think “here and there”, spelled the same.

    Here and hear. You hear with your ear, spelled the same. The expression of approval is “Hear! Hear!”
    Here refers to the location — this place.

    Most of you here can skip all this but it’s easy to slip when writing fast. If there are people who can use this reminder, great. It will clean up their posts and its purpose will have been served. Otherwise, never mind.

  332. Good Morning All

    Basil9 So why not admit that, and do DNA. This country would not find anything wrong with that.

    I find it unpatriotic, that the O campaign if this is found to be true, would allow this sitution to evolve. Do they think they have so much control of the media that they could pull this off.

  333. And BTW, we certainly aren’t all racists. Check the AAs on the blog (if you can remember which ones are). They aren’t even reverse racists.

  334. freakles

    I know of the grammer you speak, as I live with an English Major. However, I am sure I still make many of those mistakes.

    My husband could never blog for that reason, as he worries about making it perfect. Just compositing an email is painful for him, and he therefore corresponds with few people.

    I, on the other hand, just want to communicate how I feel and share. I always regret when I don’t proof read and send, and see somthing I wish I had corrected.

  335. # birdgal Says:
    October 24th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    And then, we have BO’s paternal grandmother saying that she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Too many conspiracy theories floating around out there. Which theory is the correct one?
    **************************8

    would it not be possible for them to all be true??

    Frank Marshal Davis impregnates her, she goes to Kenya , and gives birth in kenya, comes to HI , registers the baby……..and marries lolo soetoro who adopts him and takes him to Indonesia

  336. Freckles,

    I too learned those grammar rules early in life. The fact of the matter is that when I’m posting here, I am usually multi-tasking and typing at the speed of light. I know I am guilty of the “there” “their” but can’t be bothered to correct it always. I honestly don’t see grammar as being a huge issue here but there you go. 😉

  337. IMHO

    when I wanted to write a letter or if i wanted to write an “Article” (not that i would) I would use spell check

    but when i am just messaging on a blog i don’t always take the time to make corrections.
    and i certainly don’t care if you do not either 😀

    Heck, most of my kids text messages are more like morris code and i can read them LOL!

  338. it would help if there was a preview option in the program but since there’s not i just type away and post usually without reading over for mistakes.

    it’s no big deal here. (i hope!)

    moonpluto, NMF,
    If it is FD maybe BO didn’t learn who his real father was until he was older?

  339. also,

    i consider blogging an extension of conversation – improvisational and spontaneous. stopping to correct breaks the flow and that’s not what blogging is about. (IMHO)

    i can write a grammatically perfect post as well as the next person but i don’t think that’s the point.

  340. Please! This was not meant to be a criticism – just a help when the brain gets stuck. Besides, they are just spelling errors. More for when you’re sending letters rather than here.

    NO CRITICISM INTENDED. Just that spelling is an expertise. Might be my only one.

    Carry on, mates.

  341. edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/military-votes-tossed-out/

    Military votes tossed out in Virginia
    October 24, 2008 · 6 Comments

    After that stunning poll in Military Times , here are the consequences:

    Fairfax Virginia is tossing their votes away

    Military ballots are being tossed in Fairfax Co, VA because of a “technicality.”

    You should have stayed quiet, guys. Like the 80% who hang up on pollsters.

    Fairfax general registrar Rokey Suleman said Thursday that he has had to reject some of the ballots because of a Virginia law passed in 2002. That law — then called Senate Bill 113, sponsored by then state Sen. Bill Bolling — requires that when an overseas citizen wants to request an absentee ballot and cast a vote with the same paperwork, it requires not only a witness signature but also the current address of the witness.

    Aparently, the ballots themselves were not changed for the new requirements

    The McCain campaign said there’s not even a space for the witness to list an address. Suleman agreed; he said the federal document was changed in recent years and the space for the witness address was removed. But the Virginia law hasn’t changed.

    In other words, the soldiers made no mistakes on their ballot, the state did. The soldiers are just paying for it. Or rather for voting for the wrong candidate.

    I am actually surprised to read this from Mark Ambinder

    Democrats insist they’re biased towards access… so will they try to intervene on behalf of these voters?

    I think not. You’re out of luck soldiers. out there fighting , instead of having messy ballots by ACORN…plus of course, voting for the wrong candidate.

  342. Freckles

    One of my mistakes that I keep trying to correct is can not is really cannot, or at least word keeps telling me that.

    I don’t think we took it as such (criticism that is), bloging for me a really emotional release. Many times I write a reply and then delete it. I guess I don’t think what I have to say is all that important.

    This blog has kept my sanity, and for that I am very appreicative.

  343. LOL…as someone who may or may not be an english major (how’s THAT for mysterious?), one of my pet peeves with respect to Big Pink is the lack of an “edit” button. People who type quickly make alot of grammatical mistakes…they may catch them after the “submit” button has been hit, but by then…oh well, too late.

    C’est la vie. We’ll all live. 😉

  344. off topic and no doubt gender-incorrect but funny as he11.

    pic of MO wearing her grandmother’s couch compelte with cat.

    ROTF!

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/10-days-until-the-election/

  345. If the unthinkable happens and Bambi cheats his way into the Oval Office there will be a stench of illegitimacy to him. ACORN guarantees that. Half the country will see him for the fraud he is and distrust every move he makes. The other half will see him as the messiah but when he produces more disasters than miracles they will see him as A God That Failed. Big Media will continue to hide the truth and will question the patriotism of anyone who fails to support their president in these trying times. They will be more depised and ultimately ignored. Over the course of time Obama’s mental instability will become apparent to more people. He will make a big power grab, thinking that will solve the problem. His own party will support this in derogation of their sworn duties to constituents. That is when the real fun will begin. Mind you this is projection based on what I see now. But I would assign a high degree of probabilty to this scenario-if he wins. That is why we cannot allow it to happen.

  346. basil9 Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 11:33 am
    off topic and no doubt gender-incorrect but funny as he11.

    pic of MO wearing her grandmother’s couch compelte with cat.

    ROTF!

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/10-days-until-the-election/
    —————————————————————————————

    Thanks for the laugh. 🙂

  347. Berg’s Case against BHO and his birth certificate just went main stream! Andy McCarthy at National Review Online
    Just wrote a Piece on it!!!!!!

    corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzgwMzU5MzFkNThkOWVlMjJjNjA3YjJlMGM0NTAzOWU=

    Thursday, October 23, 2008

    Turning the Page from Campaign Finance Fraud . . . [Andy McCarthy]

    What is the deal with Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship status?

    Pamela Gellers at Atlas Shrugs raises some apparent shenanigans with the birth certificate the Obama campaign previously produced. Meanwhile, Philip J. Berg, a former Deputy AG of Pennsylvania and a professed Hillary supporter, filed a lawsuit claiming Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be president; instead of simply clearing up any questions — which you would think would take about five minutes — Obama’s lawyers moved to dismiss the suit and failed to file a timely answer, meaning that, under the applicable rules (according to Berg), Obama is legally deemed to have admitted Berg’s allegations that he is constitutionally ineligible to be president.

    Admittedly, I’ve ignored this issue up until now on the theory that if there was anything here worth looking at, surely the Hillary and McCain campaigns would have raised it. But this all seems very strange. It’s not just a matter of whether Obama was born in Hawaii — Berg claims he wasn’t, but most others seem to agree he was (though the publicly available proof seems shaky at this point). There is also the question whether he was also a citizen of one or more other countries (Kenya? Indonesia?) and whether that means, as a matter of law, that he could not be a “natural born” citizen as required by the Constitution.

    Has anyone around here looked into this? Is it a serious issue, and why does Obama seem to be so squirmy about it?

  348. Military votes tossed out in Virginia
    October 24, 2008 · 6 Comments
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    Stunning. What with Obamas determined efforts to register millions of felons, ACORNs subversion of our democracy winked at by Bruner, and now this disenfrachisement of those in uniform serving our country in garden spots like Iraq and Afganistan this snafu–if that is all it really was. More mindbogglng still–no remedy? Now I reall get suspicious.

  349. How many votes were thrown out? Unbelievable. Disenfranchisement of our military people is unacceptable. Felons can vote, but our military cannot? Hmm… something is rotten in VA.

  350. http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_foreign_donors/2008/10/23/143619.html?promo_code=2A89-1

    RNC: Obama ‘Outside Law’ on Donors

    Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:40 PM

    By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

    The Republican National Committee on Thursday supplemented its Oct. 6 complaint to the Federal Election Committee and — citing new revelations by Newsmax and other news organizations — called on the FEC to “immediately conduct a full audit” of the Obama campaign accounts.

    The RNC complaint asserts that the Obama campaign had demonstrated a “lack of compliance with the law” because of its acceptance of prohibited donations from foreign nationals, excessive contributions from individuals, and donations from unknown sources.

    At the same time, RNC officials said they recognize that the FEC has “no authority” to freeze campaign accounts or to take other actions that would actually prevent the Obama campaign from spending money illegally obtained from foreign nationals to influence the U.S. presidential election.

    “The system isn’t designed for actors who are going to ignore the law,” RNC chief legal counsel Sean Cairncross told Newsmax.

    SNIP

    “A Newsmax investigation reports the existence of a growing trend to purchase disposable “gift” credit cards to make donations,” the complaint says, citing a report that appeared earlier this week.

    [Editor’s Note: See “Obama Turns Blind Eye to Credit Card Donation Fraud.”]

    “These ‘gift’ credit cards can only be tracked by the numbers, so there is no way of knowing who made the contribution,” the complaint states.

    A Newsmax informant said he had made a series of $5 donations in less than an hour, each time using “a different name and address, all of which were obviously fictitious and some even including foreign addresses,” the RNC complaint states.

    Among the fictitious donors were “Daffy Duck,” “Bart Simpson,” and “Raela Odinga.”

    In addition, the RNC cited several media reports that said both personal and corporate credit cards had been charged with unauthorized contributions to the Obama campaign.

    Ms. Patricia Phillips, a Virginia resident who also is a candidate for the State Senate, discovered a $5 charge on her corporate credit card statement for a contribution to the Obama campaign.

    “Ms. Phillip’s situation is troublesome for two primary reasons,” the RNC complaint states. “First, OFA accepted a contribution from a corporate credit card,” which is illegal. “Second, OFA accepted a contribution that was fraudulently made.”

    The Washington Post uncovered that donation, as well as a $2,300 contribution made to OFA that was charged to the credit card of Steve and Rachel Larman of Missouri without the couple’s knowledge.

    As Republicans, they were surprised to receive their credit card statement and discover the donation to the Obama campaign.

    The RNC complaint noted that, by all appearances, the Obama campaign had disabled standard security features on its fundraising website.

    “For example, online merchants usually match the cardholders’ provided name and address to the credit card number to protect against fraud,” the RNC noted. But “given the high number of fictitious contributor names linked to credit card contributions, OFA appears not to be consistently following this practice.”

    Even more troubling than these cases appearing in the Obama campaign’s itemized contributions is the $270 million that the campaign has taken from undisclosed sources.

    “The RNC believes that widespread illegalities may exist among these un-itemized contributions and requests that the Commission immediately investigate both itemized and un-itemized contributions in both the OFA primary and general election periods to ensure a fair and open election.

    “The American people deserve to know the origin of the over $600 million that may help elect a President of the United States,” the complaint concludes.

  351. RUSH LIMBAUGH IS PLAYING THE AUDIO TO THE VIDEO OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA RACE BAITING IN 1995!!!!!!!!!

    I posted on this late last night (look up thread)

    here’s a repost of it for you

    # djia Says:
    October 24th, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Obama Race Baiting Interview From 1995 Revealed, Will Media Ignore?
    By John Stephenson | October 24, 2008

    Listen to this audio from a 1995 interview where Obama says a blatant race baiting statement implying that whites don’t want to pay taxes to inner city children for them to go to school. The interview is full of defense on Obama’s socialistic views on taxation, and other controversial remarks.

    It took the “new media” and blogs to dig this information up. This would have never seen the light of day if it were left up to the mainstream media. Now that it has been brought into the light, will the media pick up their fumbled ball and run with it? I doubt it, but perhaps if enough blogs report on it they can be shamed into doing so. They won’t report on this unless they have to.

    newsbusters.org/
    # djia Says:
    October 24th, 2008 at 1:36 am

    Video of Obama RAce Baiting interview from 1995

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fi8STNlxM

  352. We really, really need true campaign finance reform in this country. Horrendous use of so much money, that could be used for UHC, and other needed programs.

  353. Please check obamacrimes.com……..

    Someone from Hawaiii just posted a authentic birth certificate. This real birth certificate does not matched with Obama’s certificate…..WOWWWWWWWWWW

    STOP OBAMA NOW…….HE IS PHONY……

    It is up to us to stop him………………

  354. magic007 Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    Please check obamacrimes.com……..

    Someone from Hawaiii just posted a authentic birth certificate. This real birth certificate does not matched with Obama’s certificate…..WOWWWWWWWWWW
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    As I recall from NQ posts going back like 2 months, the BCs would have a certain format for a certain period, then either be slightly modified, or overhauled. So a good side-by-side comparison would have to ensure it was from the same batch period.

    But I really doubt he has a valid stamped original, or else he would have shown it long ago. He might have been able to get an “official (stamped) copy” created, and that may or may not be forged. And it is possible to get a state worker to generate the validation needed (raised seal on a copy).

  355. How can they throw out military ballots (on a technicality?) in times of war? How can their voices be silenced? Unbelievable.

  356. magic007, I went to obamacrimes and I did not see the Hawaii birth certificate you cited above. Please post a link. I so want this to be settled one way or the other.

  357. om317, do you think they just lost any military personnel, member, family member, or past military citizens…..or were they for McCain/Palin to begin with. And why can’t McCain or other high level person force them to qualify the ballots since it was an error of the state……..or was this disenfranchisement planned long ago? PA would not throw out ACORN fraudulent votes….my, my, my how many Katherine Harrises there are this election.
    Dirty rotten shame.

  358. Military votes are always tossed out, this is not new this year. This happens every election cycle. They keep trying to resolve the issue, that is one reason they were pushing voting by computer, but lots of military votes still get tossed out. I don’t see how military members can be tied to that rule, they aren’t citizens living abroad, hopefully someone will find a loophole in it, cause that is just ridiculous. The military usually tries to work with the states so they can vote and count. .

  359. Once you open obamacrimes.com, just click the botton that says “POST COMMENT” It is on the very first page under the headline dated 21 Oct 2008. You won’t miss it….

  360. This comment by Anglachel goes to the heart of the matter. It explains why elites love Barack and working class people are sceptical of him. It also explains the profound difference between Hillary and Barack. She stood for the middle class, whereas he never did and never will. His tax plan is merely the latest indicator.
    ——————————————–
    It may not be PC to say this, but there is a very rational basis for working class white racism that has nothing to do with believing minorities are lesser beings and everything to do with keeping that structural advantage in place. That’s why the cynical claims of the Obama campaign about Archie Bunkers – when the target is actually the guilty upper middle class – doesn’t ring true.

    Obama himself is no threat. He codes “white”. The threat he offers is not raising up minorities but turning his back on all the working class and failing to enact policies and programs that will help those who are struggling. The real way to undermine racism is by increasing economic stability and prosperity, not by trying to shame people living on the edge as some kind of moral reprobates.

  361. To put an even finer point on it Hillary believes that all boats should rise with the tide, and understands that the key to it is to increase economic stability and prosperity for all. Barack on the other hand seeks power to promote himself, to protect his wealthy patrons and to bamboozle the unthinking.

  362. Silly girl, i hope she is appropriately prosecuted

    ATTACKED GIRL ADMITS IT WAS A HOAX!

    kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

    A Pittsburgh police commander says a volunteer for the McCain campaign who reported being robbed and attacked near a bank ATM in Bloomfield has confessed to making up the story. Police say charges will be filed. More details to follow.

  363. I have been looking into the Obama Birth Certificate. Here’s what can be said.

    Currently there are two different Birth Certificates. One off Obama’s web-site and the other on FactCheck. Here is the one on His web-site.

    Notice that it does not have three items, Date stamp, signiture, or seal. The seal is embossed. Hence would clearly be visible.

    It COULD NOT HAVE BEEN RELEASED BY THE STATE OF HAWAII.

    Even if it was sent in a flat box, it is still missing the requied items, from the State. Nor would the Sate release the document electronically as some Obama supporters have suggested.

    If the BC on his website was released by any official State Dept, it would have been notorized with the embossed SEAL, signed, and dated before it was released to ANYBODY. Including Obama himself.
    If it was printed out by the Dept of Health via computer, it would have to have checked, verified, and Sealed, dated, and signed, before it was released to ANYBODY. Precaution to ANY official document.

    The dept official stated that it should have the seal and date. Janice Okubo.

    No let’s go to the FactCheck Birth Certificate.

    Although this looks like a “Certified” Birth Certificate it is a forgery. It does appers to have the date stamp, and signiture, however the SEAL is the give away to forgery.

    Here is an actual Hawaii Birth Certificate;

    Notice the embossed SEAL. Now we will look at the seal. We cropped the seal, flipped it, increased the contrast and look what we have.

    Clearly able to read the following: “Department of Health” and “State of Hawaii”

    Now lets do the same with the embossed Sael off the FactCheck Birth certificatem, and see what we get.

    again, another shot

    Whats that, NO lettering stating where it was “Certified” from:

    Here is an e-mail that I recieved from the State of Hawaii.

    Do you understand what it says. The official State seal used by the Department of Health, has lettering embedded into the seal.

    Obama’s does not have any lettering and is not an official seal from the State of Hawaii.

    It’s a forgery. Obama can’t porduce a valid Birth Certificate, nor can he prove Natural Born Citizenship.

    Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetor when he moved to Indonesia and the following is his “Official” registration at school in Indonesia.

    Notice the name: Barry Soetoro Nationality: Indonesian Religion: Muslim

    There it is folks. Obama busted!

    Filed under: Barack, Election, Obama, Politics, Presidential | Tagged: Barack, Birth, Black, Certificate, Forgery, Fraud, Liberation, Muslim, Obama, Thelogy | No Comments »

  364. I know Idunn, i was thinking about it all last night, it is sad though that she had felt she needed to do that, and that is why security checks should always be carried out on people you send round doors.

  365. Stop the presses, i think i saw a hint of a journalists integrity, amazed and shocked.

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cnn_palin_interview/2008/10/24/143810.html

    Stop the presses — CNN is taking responsibility for falsely stating that National Review magazine called Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin “incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above.”

    “I think ideology has now overridden any kind of journalistic ethics at all,” Fox News host Bill O’Reilly told his audience when he learned of the distortion. “And I think that’s the bottom line here.”

    An interview with Palin that aired Tuesday on CNN’s The Situation Room touched off the controversy. CNN correspondent Drew Griffin twisted the meaning of a National Review column during a question he posed to Palin about whether her message is reaching the public.

    Griffin’s question: “Governor you’ve been mocked in the press. The press had been pretty hard on you, Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you. The National Review had a story saying, ‘I can’t tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above.’”

    Palin immediately asked, “Who wrote that?”

    Griffin stammered, “T-that was in The National Review. I don’t know who wrote that.”

    “Who wrote it?” Palin replied, obviously concerned. “I’d like to talk to that person.”

    On Thursday, Griffin appeared on two CNN programs, “Newsroom” and “Situation Room,” to confess the error.

    Said Griffin, “I never really explained the point of the National Review before she finished answering the question. “In no way did I intend to misquote The National Review.”

    Griffin also said, “Unfortunately, my question — I botched it.”

  366. Okay, that satisfies me as to the birth certificate. He can not produce a legal one, so he can not prove citizenship. His bad. He can not be the President!!!

    Kick his a$$ to the side!!!!!

  367. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/barack_obama_false_moderate.html

    October 24, 2008
    Barack Obama, False Moderate
    By Rich Lowry

    The only two Democrats who have won in the past 10 presidential elections were moderates from the South.

    This datum made the nomination of Barack Obama — a liberal from the South Side, not the South — seem an unnecessary gamble for Democrats. At least before it became evident how convincing an imitation Obama could do of his moderate Democratic forebears.

    Obama’s campaign has some of the trappings of Bill Clinton’s winning 1992 and 1996 campaigns. Obama is like Clinton in 1992 in that he’s running against a deeply unpopular incumbent president (although George W. Bush isn’t on the ballot) and brandishing a middle-class tax cut. He’s like Clinton in 1996 in that he’s burying an older opponent in an avalanche of paid advertising, while branding himself a centrist.

    Clinton had earned the right in 1992 to run as a “new kind of Democrat” by confronting liberal interest groups in the primaries. Obama simply showed up the day after he won the nomination and declared himself a centrist. Everything since has been couched in reassuring, moderate terms in brilliant salesmanship worthy of the best minds at the American Marketing Association.

    Obama’s tax cut for 95 percent of working people is one of the reasons he has a 2-1 advantage on “helping the middle class,” according to the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll. Obama’s proposal doesn’t actually cut income or payroll tax rates. Overall, John McCain’s proposal cuts taxes more than Obama for typical families. But Obama sounds more zealous about middle-class tax cuts.

    On health care, Obama has attacked McCain’s proposal on conservative grounds, claiming it would trash the current system of employer-provided insurance and raise taxes. As for his own proposal? It’s the centrist alternative. His advertising contrasts two approaches to health care — one government-run, the other allowing insurance companies to run amok. “Barack Obama says both extremes are wrong,” says the ad.

    On social issues, Obama says he opposes gay marriage. Never mind that he supports repealing the Defense of Marriage Act. He says he supports reducing the abortion rate. Never mind that he supports taxpayer funding of abortion. On gun rights, his campaign has been running advertisements explaining “Barack Obama and John McCain will both make sure we can keep our guns.” In his public presentation, Obama might as well be an embittered rural voter clinging to guns and religion.

    Then, there’s his steady demeanor. He’s so even-keeled, you could practically put a level on his head and its bubble would barely move. This quality served him well during the financial meltdown. But if Obama’s elected, we may look back and wonder why everyone thought passivity in a crisis spoke of extraordinary leadership skills.

    Obama is able to get away with all this because he has a thin record, and what record he has the press isn’t willing to examine. In the Illinois Legislature, Obama voted against legislation protecting infants born alive after abortions — votes so outrageous the press acts as if they simply couldn’t have occurred. Obama can reinvent himself at will, a political Gatsby with all of America as his East Egg.

    If elected, Obama will return to Washington with expanded and emboldened liberal majorities in both the Senate and the House. Congress was the un-doing of his two Democratic forebears. Carter was stiff-necked with a Democratic Congress, and that made it nearly impossible for him to govern; Clinton accommodated his Democratic Congress in 1993-94, and it pulled him to the left to devastating effect in the 1994 congressional elections.

    For a President Obama, moderation could no longer be merely a pose that represents the path of political least resistance; he’d have to fight for it every day with partisan colleagues who are older and tougher than he is.

    When has Obama stood up to liberals and fought for a principled centrism? Never. This is why part of McCain’s closing argument must be that he’d be a better check on Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid than the moderate poseur.

  368. it is sad though that she had felt she needed to do that

    Several years ago, a young woman back home in Va. said she was sexually assaulted while working at a Dunkin Donuts, locked in the employee bathroom , and the perp set the place on fire, trying to burn her alive and destroy the evidence.

    Fireman and police arrive, put out the flames and hear the girl screaming for help frfom the bathroom. She give them her story.

    Wanna guess how the police determined she was lying? 😉

  369. So Griffin falls on the sword for CNN. That does not meet with my approval. Griffin should be fired. CNN should be off the air – FCC have the ability to pull a license when there is a violation of rules………
    FCC do your job!!!!!
    C-riminals’
    N-ot
    N-eeded here, we have plenty of our own already!

  370. I will post the website for the above in a minute.

    Obamas failure to respond to admissions in a timely fashion is legally significant if the case is not dismissed.

    When responding to admissions, you have three choices–admit, deny or state that you are without information sufficent to form a belief.

    If he answered and denied what was later shown to be true then he and his attorney as well would be in trouble. He may be untouchable from the bar association since he has resigned, but his attorney would not be.

    Thus their whole case at this point hinges on whether the judge dismisses. If he does then it will be based on his interpretation of the law and I believe that decision would be reviewable by a higher court, in other words appealable.

    We brought this issue to the investigative team at abc news over a month ago and nothing further was heard. Thus, it is good to see that National Review has picked up on it. Let us hope Chris Buckley does not choke on his caviar when he learns of it.

  371. Re. Griffin: is he really any different than the rest of them at cnn or is the difference that he got caught? Think of Cafferty for example.

  372. LOL…nope. What bathroom do you know that locks from the outside? 😉

    Turns out after interviews with family and neighbors that the girl had MAJOR psych problems…had set fire to her parent home, several areas at her school , and so on and so forth.

  373. After pressure from the RNC

    Virginia Miliary Absentee Ballot Problem Will Be Solved

    The military voting project at the National Defense Committee responds to reports out of Fairfax, Virginia, and after polite telephone conversations and an exchange of letters, the problem looks like it will be solved and votes will be counted.

  374. Re. Griffin: this business of misquoting what was said is the legacy of Tim Russert. Yes he made his mark on jounalism before he died.

  375. After pressure from the RNC

    Virginia Miliary Absentee Ballot Problem Will Be Solved

    The military voting project at the National Defense Committee responds to reports out of Fairfax, Virginia, and after polite telephone conversations and an exchange of letters, the problem looks like it will be solved and votes will be counted.
    —————————————————
    I would hope so.

  376. Idunn Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    LOL…nope. What bathroom do you know that locks from the outside?

    —————————————————————————

    That’s what I was thinking.

  377. I am deeply ashame for this great country if we give this con artist a free ride about this birth certificate. To be fair, this man needs to be investigated period. What if his indentity is true?

    God Bless America!!!!!!!!

  378. Greta has this right. Griffin and CNN should apologize to Palin (not Yorn and the National Review). She was the one they hurt with their Gotcha journalism. What is most irritating is that Griffin did not have the correct quote nor did he have the source. If he had mentioned the source on air, maybe people would have recognized he botched the quote and that would softened the impact on Palin. Now people who don’t know anything about the aftermath and the correction are left with the impression that NR did say that about Palin. CNN should apologize to Palin.

  379. wbboei, Griffin is not different from others in CNN. He got caught and people like Greta are needling them everyday — running the actual quote and his quote and Greta even calls her segment — keeping CNN honest, a play on Cooper’s own segment. I wish Greta had gone after ABC and Gibson for their editing with the same gusto. But she does mention it often. She seems to have taken up the cause of Palin’s — fairness and gender equity and such.

  380. ShortTermer Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
    So Griffin falls on the sword for CNN. That does not meet with my approval. Griffin should be fired. CNN should be off the air – FCC have the ability to pull a license when there is a violation of rules………
    FCC do your job!!!!!
    C-riminals’
    N-ot
    N-eeded here, we have plenty of our own already
    —————————————————–
    I am inclined to agree with you. It is a breach of the public trust. There is no accountabilty in the present system. This faux apology proves nothing, nor does it prevent them from doing the same thing in the future. The only practical thing we can do is tune them out. They are an unreliable source of information, and we cannot make prudential decisons as voters, taxpayers and the like based on the distorted tripe they provide. Lou Dobbs is of course the exception/

  381. shenanigans Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
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    Great article. Thanks for posting.

    This is what the press refuses to report.

    A democracy cannot survive with a corrupt press.

  382. wbboei, Griffin is not different from others in CNN. He got caught and people like Greta are needling them everyday — running the actual quote and his quote and Greta even calls her segment — keeping CNN honest, a play on Cooper’s own segment. I wish Greta had gone after ABC and Gibson for their editing with the same gusto. But she does mention it often. She seems to have taken up the cause of Palin’s — fairness and gender equity and such.
    ———————————————————
    agreed on all points. keeping cnn honest however is like trying to clean up the agean stable.

  383. Hey guys…

    For all you with family and friends in the Military, serving overseas…here is the way their votes are being treated…

    edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/military-votes-tossed-out/

  384. Boy do i feel like a jerk!

    Darlin’, you are WAY too hard on yourself. Why on earth would you feel sorry for believing and caring about someone?? That’s a wonderful trait…much more admirable than hard assed cynicism. (of which I am guilty) Could have very well been true, and then I’d have been a REAL jerk. 😉

  385. Subject: FW: A Very Sobering Email

    This is an e-mail from BGen James Cash, USAF, who has written some very good articles on the subject. Here he recommends someone else’s e-mail that impressed him, and scared him.

    General Cash Wrote:

    Occasionally, I receive an email that I agree with so totally I want to pass to everyone on my list. This is one of those emails. I have approval from the writer to forward the attached, and feel free to post it on your websites, or forward to friends. The election of Obama as President of the United States will mark the apex, and beginning downslide, of this Republic. The only question is the rate at which the downfall will occur.

    The writer of this essay is Jerry Molen. Jerry is a great friend and an Academy Award winning Hollywood Producer. He did Jurassic Park, Hook, Rainman, and many more class movies. He won he Academy Award for Schindler’s List. Jerry is one of the very few clear thinking conservatives that I know from Hollywood. We need to get this out to as many as possible to include liberal Democrats. We are about to make the Mother-of-All-Mistakes, because the Republican Party gave us no reliable alternative. In my opinion, if the conservative movement does not rally behind the only alternative left to us, this country will become a true Socialist State within the next two Presidential terms. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the most grave situation this nation has faced in my lifetime.

    Jim Cash B/G, USAF, Ret.

    Jerry Molen wrote:
    ‘Election woes defined by prose…’

    We just experienced an overhyped, positively outrageous primary election season that has left me cold and wondering where the heads of our citizens are hiding out. Must be someplace where the sun doesn’t get to very often.

    At one time in my life, I was a determined, dedicated, and ever-loyal registered Democrat. Then something happened (Lyndon Baines Johnson) that turned my life around and gave me much pause as to the veracity of a party that dwelt on and fed off of the most unfortunate among us. Some of those unfortunates were in their positions in life by way of their own choosing and others were there by circumstance. But always, always with a door open to them to reach for new heights, achieve new goals, change their lives for the better. And also, always ever present were the bottom feeders doing everything they could to take advantage of those who had not or have not seen the light of better days and times, nor realizing they were in fact the masters of their own destiny. They had come to believe that they were dependent on those in power in Washington and that they would look out for them and take care of their every need. They are still waiting and expecting all those promised freebies.

    Most people aren’t even aware that the Democrats ruled Washington for over 40 years. It wasn’t until 1994 when the so-called Gingrich Revolution changed that for a short period of time. Nor do people realize that it was the Dem’s that created the failed policies of the many entitlement programs that are falling apart right before our eyes. Please do not think I find the Republicans blameless in all this. They, too, suffer from ego inflation and greed motivators built into the system. It’s just that the past few months I’ve listened to the rantings and railings of the left in America calling for more giveaways and better ways to obtain the proverbial ‘free lunch’.

    I think that to sum up my feelings and why I am so set apart from those within the circles of political power and influence can be illustrated best by a quote by noted basketball legend and talk show co-host Charles Barkley:

    ‘Poor people have been voting for Democrats for the last fifty years … and they are still poor.’

    And now with the election results comes the promises of ‘change’. ‘Change we can believe in.’ ‘Change for the future.’ When in fact if you really, I mean REALLY listen to what the new messiah is asking for, is not ‘change of policy’ or ‘change for the better’. He is warning all of us that he wants our change all right, ‘loose change’, pocket change’, social change, and political change. So people, wake up. For if you don’t, the change you get may not be the change you were expecting or the change you wanted.

    To close my screed, I want to leave you with some JM predictions in the event the junior Senator from Illinois becomes President and especially if the House and Senate are veto proof.

    1). Strict new gun laws will be enacted even though he promised he would not.
    2). The phrase ‘In God We Trust’ will be removed from all currency.
    3). He will back away from his pledge to Israel and leave them to the wolves of Islam.
    4). Hillary Clinton will be named to the Supreme Court.
    5). Tax rates will return to their highest levels in 30 years.
    6). The capital gains tax will be at least double current levels.
    7). Retired Army General Wesley Clark will be named Secretary of Defense. This is the General who was fired for ‘integrity’ issues.
    8). The borders will be ‘basically open’ to all comers … especially those from the Middle East and South America.
    9). Amnesty will be granted to all illegals now in the U.S. regardless of status or even gang members (MS-13).
    10). The war in Iraq will be brought to an abrupt end and the results will be tragic and the consequences to our military will be devastating.

    I realize that my predictions may not sit too well with some people and the best we could all hope for is that I am totally wrong. Any bets?

    Jerry Molen

    If you don’t want to forward this for fear of offending someone, YOU’RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

    It is Time for Americans to Speak up.

  386. I’m hearing very good news from Rassmussen for NH and Iowa, keep eyes glued for later.

    Apparently a 6% swing to McCain in a week and now only 3 behind and the lead in Iowa has dropped significantly and and in single digits..

  387. basil9 Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
    That clip breaks my heart.

    When he could barely bring himself to speak about his wife and kids . . . his lower lip quivering, his voice breaking . . .

    How anyone in their right mind can vote for BO over this real hero is completely beyond my comprehension.
    ————————————
    basil: excellent video on JM. Thanks so much for posting!!!!!!!! The choice could hardly be clearer: Servant of country vs american idol + big media shills

  388. Socal4hill: great post

    Re. Molen

    compelling piece

    obama aka the mother of all mistakes–absolutely

    hillary to supreme court–zero chance she says

  389. Interesting, but but but i thought Obama was wining there by a mile.

    http://www.5280.com/blog/?p=5232

    Thursday, October 23, 2008 Colorado Early Voting Shows a Close Race Despite the polls showing Senator Barack Obama with a significant lead over John McCain in Colorado, 9News reports that the early numbers for the first two days of voting show the race may be close. According to early voting statistics posted by Colorado’s Secretary of State on Tuesday, 96,104 mail-in ballots were returned by Democrats. Republicans turned in 99,306. When looking at the number of voters who showed up at early voting centers, 9,173 were Democrats and 6,309 were Republicans.

  390. Yum, Pomegranate season and this one is bigger than my hand, its huge. I’ve just eaten the whole thing.

    Sends lovely fresh pomegrantes to my friends.

  391. Moononpluto,

    Hopefully we will have a nice surprise election day. Everytime I hear polls (like this morning) that Obama is leading by double digits, it justs freaks me out!

  392. basil9 Says:
    i consider blogging an extension of conversation – improvisational and spontaneous. stopping to correct breaks the flow and that’s not what blogging is about. (IMHO)

    =============

    Dman right! Typosa and messy typingetc etc are like tone of voice. It’s like when someone is tlakign so fast they stumbleover their words.

    It’s like body language too, gstures. Just by glancing a ta a post you can tell whether it was carefully thought out or ranting. Just like seeing someone waving their hands and talking fast.

    Or lots of other variations. This is color, personalitly, extra information!

    If a post (or part of it) is picture perfect, that may indicate that the poster re-read it before posting and presumably polished the wording and the thoughts as well. Or that he pasted it from somewhere else. 🙂

    (Btw I have keyboard and typing problems so mine often gets worse than most people’s.)

  393. Also you can tell a lot about a person’s background by what kidn of mistakes they make. Which words they know how to spell and which they don’t, what kidn of grammatical errors they make….

    It’s like seeing a bunch of people gathered in their dirty everyday work clothes. You can tell right off what kind of work they do. If they were all sanitized and dressed up in business suits, you couldn’t tell.

  394. JanH said; I know I am guilty of the “there” “their” but can’t be bothered to correct it always.
    =======

    I was raised by schoolteachers so I totally know hte diffreence on their/there, it’s/its, etc, and I do correct them if my fingers type the worng one. I’m noticing (and this was discussed on a foruom of professional writers) that people of my generation who do know the diffrence, are now findng our fingers making those mistakes for the first time in our long livse. Something about the fingers beign wired direct to the eyes, or to the sequence they type most often — rahter than going through the ‘grammar circuits’ of the brain or something.

  395. Paging Illulminati….

    Sorry, but some of this stuff needs to be labeled satire, so the bots don’t pounce on it.

    There are PHOTOS of Obama visiting his Kenyan family and pictures of his Kenyan father and there is a close family resemblence! His is a common Kenyan physiotype.

    Geneaology and family kinship are very important in Kenyan culture.

    What did this Frank Davis even look like? It might be a fittng cap to Obama’s Joseph Campbell mystique to find out htat his mysterious father was Frank who did help mentor him and whom he respected, rather than the Kenyan who abandoned him.

    But really — this whole thing is not only contradictory to the claim abotu Obama not beign a citizen — it’s offensive! It’s on a level with claims that Palin’s new baby was reallly her daughter’s!

  396. Well its coming to the last week folks, now pay attention to the msm next week, if they start softening their positions, then they are afraid, i’ve seen instances of it already.

    MSM knows if McCain wins there will be payback, so they may use the last week to try and balance themselves, instead of the cocksuckers they’ve been all year.

  397. First thing I will do when McCain wins is to fall off my chair laughing and i’ll probably still be rolling half an hour later because it will be so embarrassing for Obama and the dems that i will be crying with laughter at what they did.

  398. as for that woman that cried wolf, I feel very sorry that she had not sought mental counseling before this. to lie about something like this is really bad, but to disfigure her own body is serious stuff

    My heart goes out to her family and friends and I hope she gets the help she needs

    I speak for myself, but as one that truly wants honesty and dignity in this campaign I apologize to all those that were hurt or offended by her actions

  399. Hi, Hillfriends:

    Had to share this with you this afternoon. I just called and cancelled our subscription to the NY Times and the Chicago Tribune. I took no satisfaction in telling them in detail why I was cancelling, since it is essentially because jounalism has died. But, here’s what I told them:

    1. Their coverage of the election season has been one-sided and singularly uniformative.
    2. They seem to have only one aim: to elect Barack Obama.
    3. They continually ran woman-hating articles – first about our Hillary (even as the Times was endorsing her) and now about Sarah Palin. (For the Times) The hit-piece against Cindy McCain was hateful and gratuitous and, really, the last straw.
    4. I weep for journalism – they may as well rename their collective selves “Pravda” since they take their orders directly from the Obama campaign.
    5. (for the Trib) They did not report all the information that is now available about Sen. Obama during the US Senate primary, that GE, and the Prez primary. They have shown complete disregard for Illinois citizens.

    Interestingly, both papers had prepared SCRIPTS for their (very nice) customer service reps who took my cancellations. They both offered 1/2 price deals and many pleas not to cancel. “Just because we endorsed Senator Obama doesn’t mean that we won’t have interesting and informative stories in the future….” and other lame sales department lines.

    I responded to each in turn: “When we no longer have a free press, the only power I have left is to decide where to spend my scarce and hard-earned dollars. And I do not want to give you even one more dollar to support your partisan activities.

  400. Okay…grrr…this falls into the Ripley’s Believe it or Not category. Unfortunately it’s all true…

    So I walked into a bookstore today and headed for the magazines. Lo and behold what did I find???

    McCain’s opponent…you know the one who submitted maybe 1/2 page of personal health information on himself? Well…his ugly smirking mug face is on the cover of the newest issue of Men’s Health. I just about gagged!

    Instead I did my duty and turned the garbage over to the backside.

  401. Idunn Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Boy do i feel like a jerk!

    Darlin’, you are WAY too hard on yourself. Why on earth would you feel sorry for believing and caring about someone?? That’s a wonderful trait…much more admirable than hard assed cynicism. (of which I am guilty) Could have very well been true, and then I’d have been a REAL jerk.
    =========

    :-))))

    We’re among friends here so we can speculate both ways, look at both sides, hone our thinking. But imo when in doubt it’s better to not take a chance of publically seeming to pile on someone who has been victimized, some innocent bystander. What next, search for her tax liens?

    Imo the probabities were with the victim (and still may be, for all I know, as I haven’t read the details). She sure didn’t give herself the black eyes and other injuries.

    Probability wise, I’ll be less surprised if it turns out her story was true and, like rape victims, she’s being bullied to retract it.

  402. I’ll join you in the ROTFLMAO the chair routine!

    OTOH, BM has done a good job of trashing SP. Her unfavoribility ratings went from 28% a month ago to 54% today.

    The sweetest f***ing revenge in the world will be hearing them address her as Madam Vice President! grrrrrrrr……..

  403. turndown,

    liked your 4:49 post.

    about todd, i have no idea now of what happened – if it’s proven to be a hoax that could hurt jm.

    otoh, she’s obviously got problems . . .

  404. This may have been posted already and I don’t see a place to comment, but it’s a good article and deserves to be kept for reference.

    h t t p : / / article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjEyMzk3MWU4Yzk1NGQyMWYwZjk0OTcyNmEzYTM5N2E=&w=MQ==

    How Palin Governed
    Behind all the criticism and controversy, what really happened.

    By Byron York

    Editor’s note: Byron York’s recent article in National Review on Sarah Palin’s time as governor of Alaska became a campaign issue Tuesday when CNN’s Drew Griffin distorted its meaning in a high-profile interview with Palin. CNN’s problems aside, what was the story really about? And what did it say about Palin’s readiness for office? Now, for the first time, York’s article is available on the web.
    ………..
    But a look at Palin’s 20 months in power, along with interviews with people who worked with her, shows her to be a serious executive, a governor who picked important things to do and got them done — and who didn’t just stumble into an 80 percent job-approval rating.

    [ Good detailed info follows. For a shorter version, see “Palin governs from the center” at USA Today. ]

  405. basil,

    Thanks. 🙂 You had it right, I was just adding more (typoed) words. 🙂

    Todd? Thought that was the First Dude. 🙂

    As for a supporter’s hoax hurting a candidate — the “kill him” claim turned out to be a hoax, and that hasn’t hurt BO any….

  406. turndownobama-com

    I will take Palin’s experience over Obama (who basically has no executive experience) any time.

  407. Posted by McHope at NQ.
    Pollsters who don’t report the right results (according to Obotists) receive death threats.

    Death Threats Sent to Pollster

    After releasing this morning’s numbers showing McCain ahead in Ohio and Florida, the Strategic Vision polling company received several death threats through the contact e-mail on the company’s web site.

    David Johnson, the CEO of Strategic Vision, shared the messages with National Review Online.

    One of the messages stated:

    My goodness, your polls stinks. There are 3 polls that have Obama by double digits and only yours has Obama down. WOW!. How come your poll is the only one giving Palin high favor ratings? I think you nee dto be careful tonight when you get in your car and might want to check underneath your car. SCRAP YOUR IDIOTIC POLLS OR ELSE!

    Another stated:

    A poll that gave Sarah Palin and Barack Obama the same favorability rating is wrong off the bat. Be careful going outside tonight because you might not see tomorrow.

    A third message stated:

    Why would your presidential election poll results be so drastically different from every other reputable poll taken over the same time period? Are they that dumb or are you guys that smart? Smart guys wind up dead.

  408. From a comment at NQ:
    h t t p : / / noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/12/gallup-mccain-shaves-4-points-off-of-the-one’s-lead-in-three-days/

    Another point: Gallup does NOT include Nader in their polling, and he’s pulling up to 5% nationally–from the left, certainly not the right. They also reported an 80% hang up rate, in contrast to their usual 40-50% hang up rate.

    =========

    I hope there’s something in that 80% hang up rate…. nearly twice as much as the usual hang up rate….

    At this point I’d be more inclined to hang up than in prevous campaigns.

  409. I am starting to get the Birth Certificate story from my other email friends. It is beginning to circulate big time.

    How in the HeXX do you know that the 80% hang up people are thinking. It is like projecting based on the tip of the iceberg, and you are not sure what is under the water.

  410. IDUNN!!!

    I found out today when i picked up the application for a handgun permit that i can buy a rifle with no registration required.

    Know of a decent smallish one? (of course i then gotta learn howta shoot it).

    Also, I bought a month’s worth of supplies just in case including lots of birdfood (can’t starve my pretties) and cartons of ramen soup. guess it sounds nutso and i have never once in my life felt the need for emergency supplies but . . . i can’t shake the feeling things could explode . . .

  411. Long article, but interesting from Yahoo.com in that I don’t see the point from their view:
    * * * * *
    Biz-friendly Del. may lose if Biden wins
    Victoria Mcgrane – Fri Oct 24, 1:02 pm ET

    If Delaware Senator Joe Biden is elected vice president, the state’s unique status as a corporate haven could come under attack.

    The potential departure of Biden, who’s spent 36 years in the Senate and sits on (and formerly chaired) the Judiciary Committee, comes at a time when anger over the market meltdown has inspired calls for more control over corporate governance, an area now regulated by the states.

    “There’s no question that [Biden has] been able to protect Delaware or look out for Delaware’s interests,” said Francis Pileggi, a corporate and commercial litigator in Wilmington.

    Delaware’s corporate-friendly laws, which critics charge favor management at the expense of shareholders, have made it the legal home of more than half of all publicly traded American companies and more than 60 percent of American Fortune 500 firms—a huge economic boon to the tiny state.

    While Biden has cultivated an Amtrak-riding, working-man persona, as a Senator he aggressively supported a major bankruptcy law backed by the credit companies that Barack Obama has deemed unfair to middle class Americans and vowed to undo.

    Biden supports Obama’s proposed changes, but the break with his past and the need to support the top man raise questions about how aggressively he’ll be able to defend the state’s interests if he ascends to the vice presidency.

    More at (add h t t p : / /)
    news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081024/pl_politico/14894

  412. NewMexicoFan Says: How in the HeXX do you know that the 80% hang up people are thinking. It is like projecting based on the tip of the iceberg, and you are not sure what is under the water.
    ========

    That’s why I said “I hope.” For one thing, ‘Bradley effect’. If some people don’t want to tell their real intentions to the pollster, lying is one way, and hanging up is another.

    I don’t suppose many people outide of h44 saw it, but there was a story here about someone who had been phoned (not sure by a campaign or a polling company), said something negative about Obama — and the police showed up at her door. The caller had reported her as ‘making death threats.’

    Someoen commented that even with a legitimate polling company, the employees are likely to be bots. And they already know who you are, at least the campaign callers do and some of the pollsters.

    I know it’s unlikely, but it makes me inclined to hang up. Especailly since even finding out whether it’s a legit call and which company it is etc can be a hassle. Also the whole election is sort of a sore issue now and I don’t feel like talkng about it.

    Bot voters I’d think would be happy to talk to the pollsters, proclaim their coolness….

  413. JanH Says:
    October 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    So I walked into a bookstore today and headed for the magazines. Lo and behold what did I find???
    McCain’s opponent…you know the one who submitted maybe 1/2 page of personal health information on himself?
    *****************************************************************************
    however, the MSM is salivating over the potential grisly details of the palin medicals; ie palin-pap-smears, mammograms, FOBT, menstrual cycle, etc.

    i hope the palin campaign is smart enough to send out a “half page summary” just like “his arrogance”.

  414. illinois,

    this is the first time for me. not even 911 made me nervous and i saw the towers burn from a new jersey park 15 miles west of nyc.

  415. Wow, Basil. I do share your concern and fear – many here do. Just stay safe with that thang! 😉

  416. basil9

    come on over to NH. you can buy anything you want ( live free or die ) for starters, we can pick-up a couple ladysmith 38’s and target practice. after that, we’ll move-on to rifles, m-16’s and mortars. we’ll have a ball! 🙂

  417. Basil…go to a reputable gun shop and talk to a dealer. They’ll be able to help you find a rifle suitable for your frame.

    Ask about the Remington 700 Mountain LSS rifle, and see what the dealer thinks. 😉

  418. alcina,

    for real?????????
    of course the going across state lines thing might be a problem.

    i swear i don’t know why i feel like this – it isn’t fear – (once you’ve taught in spanish harlem fear is dead – hehehehe) but more of a premonitory sensation – and i live in a safe area – very rural – good neighbors – almost no crime – but i do live alone and i do think non-residents could show up . . . should something happen downstate.

  419. What is the difference between obamas birth certificate and palins medical records. Both go to the fitness to serve, except in bambis case he is at the top of the ticket. How bout this one: we will produce the medical records when bambi produces a valid birth certificate.

  420. Why is that Krauthhammer guy so negative, discouraging on the Fox panel? He writes a big article vouching for McCain and then goes on the panel and gives it all to Obama? One of them gave some really wishy washy answer to why all these polls are different. Then they were all saying how Obama is so confident he goes to Hawaii. Is PA internals showing Obama just +2, is that a trap for McCain? I am ready for some action from 527s or McCain’s camp. Do something..

  421. Hillary in Pgh today and I am certain she is in an ideal position to assume the Presidency when Fence Post Turtle falls into his own mud pond.She stills maintains her dignity and her standing with the party members.There is no better person more qualified to be the CIC at this time of need so that she can guide our country back to it’s position of respect as a world leader.

    By ABM90 Ever The Optimist for Hillary

  422. idunn!!!!!!

    whassamatta – ya don’t trust me? 😛
    but don’t worry,
    I already have a list of instructors in the area.

    on another topic,
    where the heck is the october surprise we were promised? where are the 527’s? where’s the friggin’ cavalry?

  423. Hubby and I are alittle on the fringe, I guess. Not totally over the line into “end of days” shit, but we’re always prepared for shit to hit the fan (whatever that may be). Grow and preserve our own food (way over stocked, imo), well water and a spring house (in case city water is cut off or contamninated) , woodstove , oil lamps and extra oil, coleman stove and extra propane, solar powered radio and lanterns, ridiculously over stocked wood pile…. believe it or not, the basement is even overflowing with canned pet food.

    Seems kind of crazy to some people, but on the other hand , we never have to freak out when a snow, ice or major thunderstorm hits. 🙂

  424. basil

    is your fear the uncertainty what might happen after the election, whatever the outcome? i believe the history of the bots and their aggressive behavior plays into this. i do hope it doesn’t come down to any violence.

    as far as the guns go, yes NH folks are firm believers in second amendment rights. after living in NY myself, i couldn’t believe i could walk into a gun shop and purchase whatever i wanted.

    whatever you decide, use guidance and proper training.

  425. basil9 : glad to lend a hand in our self preservation plan.May I offer some expertise in lanyard pulling on a 105mm Howitzer.
    HEHeHeHE.I’ll keep an eye open at garage sales and flea markets. Not serious.Just spreading some humor when we could use some.

    By ABM90

  426. Idunn Says:
    Hubby and I are alittle on the fringe, I guess. Not totally over the line into “end of days” shit, but we’re always prepared for shit to hit the fan (whatever that may be). Grow and preserve our own food (way over stocked, imo), well water and a spring house (in case city water is cut off or contamninated)

    =======

    City water? Y’all have city WATER?

    Tenderfeet!

  427. Is anyone surprised that when news of that attack in Pittsburgh first hit that only Fox news was covering and now that the police are saying she made it up all networks are covering it. I smell a rat and it wouldn’t surprise me if she was a plant by the Obama camp to gain sympathy for him in PA.

  428. rjk, I thought about that too. Is she really a McCain volunteer? who is vouching for her? Well, she could pretend to be and still do this.

  429. rjk1957 Says:
    Is anyone surprised that when news of that attack in Pittsburgh first hit that only Fox news was covering and now that the police are saying she made it up all networks are covering it.
    ==========

    Tell them the “kill him” thing was a hoax too. Secret service says nobody supports the reporter who claimed to hear it.

  430. ya know what, rjk,
    i thought the same thing.

    isn’t this friggin pathetic!

    idunn,
    well, i’m not an ender type although i do sense something huge will happen in the next couple of years and my reasons for feeling the urge to stock up has far more to do with thinking utilities and food could become scarce than anything else …..

    having said that, it is quite bizarre I have these feelings but then again I have never lived in such a rural area . . . .

    guess I’ll haveta get a firepit, too …..now I’m flippin – winter’s in the catskills are brutal …. . . .
    (free associating) but the BO thugs have gotten me nervous – they remind me too much of grown up variations of the elementary school jd’s I worked with …..

    WHERE’S MY OCTOBER SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!

  431. rjk, turn sown,

    the first i heard of it was from hannity and he was taping in pittsburgh yesterday.

    maybe that’s why fox had it first?

  432. Idunn: good advice.

    If you buy a gun either invest in lessons or go to a shooting range with someone who knows how to use one. The NRA can advise. My advice is to keep it loaded unless there are children around. That way you never have to wonder.

    If I needed personal protection I would consider a shot gun. A rifle at close range is hard to wield and not practical. If you go with a pistol nothing smaller than a 45. I would go with an automatic. Many police departments have gone to a 9 which is smaller calibre. That is standard issue in Europe. I am old school and prefer a 45.

    During the early twentieth century the army and marine corp fought in the Phillipines against the Moros. The standard issue revolver then was the 38 calibre pistol and when the Moros got juiced up on drugs it lacked stopping power. Our soldiers got killed. As a result they went to the Colt 45 Peacemaker. That was standard issue even in the 1960s when I was in. Today it is probably a 9 milimeter. Alot of people have like the glock. It is light easy to wield and inexpensive.

    I shot expert with a pistol and rifle in the military. That is the highest rating. But that was 40 years ago. Today I have a walthurs ppk- 22 calibre. It is a pea shooter. No stopping power. I do not consider myself competent to use a weapon because I am out of practice.

    In some jurisdictions you cannot have a gun. In New City they have something called the Sullivan Act. If you look at the history of that act you find that it was passed by Irish politicans to favor Irish gangs who were threatened by Italians who emigrated to New York between 1890 and 1920. They brought with them criminal organizations like Camorra, Black Hand and of course the Mafia. The thinking was if the guns were illegal the Irish could maintain control since they were better with their fists. Muncipal ordinaces are relevant.

  433. Numerous email death threats sent to anyone who even breathes something negative about the loser versus a single girl who fakes an attack and mugging.

    hmmm…get real! It’s apples and oranges to me. 😉

  434. My big heros are Berg and the person in Hawaii who are pursuing the Birth Certificate stuff. They are the only ones who are trying to preserve the constitution, and my democracy.

  435. Just catching up on the posts. What a wide variety of postings today. I learn something new everyday. I don’t think, I am ready to go out and buy a gun. I would probably shoot myself by mistake.

  436. nmf,

    don’t bank on berg. check this from td.

    Here’s a frightening comment from a reader over at Texas Darlin:

    “I just spent all afternoon on the phone. I spoke with
    1. The Senate Rules and Administration Committee office
    2. The Senate Ethics Committee Office
    3. The Department of Justice
    4. My local FBI office

    It is as we have suspected but were afraid to believe. If Berg vs Obama comes back with a “lack of standing” ruling and the American people are stupid enough to elect Obama on Nov 4th, we will have a president who fails to meet the eligibility requirements of the constitution and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Apparently, our constitution isn’t the stalwart bulkhead of freedom we all thought. Here is a summary of what I learned:

    1. Senate Rules and Admin Committee defines the rules for an election and then the FEC is supposed to implement them. And even though the US Constitution states natural born as one of the eligibility requirements, there are NO rules stating that someone must see a candidate’s birth certificate! They said there is nothing they can do for this election. However, if in the future, we the people would like to see such a rule created, we would need to find a senator to sponsor it. I think someone should get on that right away to avoid this situation in future elections.

    2. The conversation with the Senate Ethics committee person was even more infuriating. She said there was nothing the Ethics committee could do. It is entirely up to the courts to decide his eligibility. I asked, “What if he lied on his original eligibility affidavit that he signed at the start of the primaries?” and she said, “That would be for someone at the Dept of Justice to investigate.”

    3. Department of Justice – I was passed around to five different people all of whom either treated me as I was a nut case or said that my questions were “out of their area”. Finally, when I asked if a private citizen can initiate a criminal investigation into whether or not he falsified his original eligibility affidavit and misled voters with a forged online COLB, they said “Call your local FBI office”.

    4. My local FBI office was the worst. He just kept saying, “I’m sure if this was a problem, someone would have investigated it already.” After telling him about all the evidence (Berg’s affidavit from paternal grandmother, etc) he just said, “Well, I guess you’ll just have to wait and see what the court says.” When I said, “But what if they come back saying Berg has no standing–that doesn’t address the issue of concern which is whether he has, in fact, lied on the eligibility document and forged the online COLB.” He just laughed.

    So–it appears that Obama’s well laid plan just may work. It may be no coincidence that he specialized in election law. He probably researched it thoroughly and knew exactly what he was doing when he started this campaign. It was probably all laid out as a nice, neat little “risk mitigation” plan. I shudder to think what life will be like under an Obama presidency. Anyone who can so flagrantly violate the public trust and build such a labyrinth of lies to protect his ambitious self-interest will only be emboldened by getting away with it. This will be just the beginning of his big f##k you for America.”

  437. some encouraging stats from confluence.

    the latest numbers for SUSA says the following for Florida:

    * 52% of Hispanics are voting McCain
    * 22% of African-Americans are voting McCain (WOW!)
    * 13% of Liberals are voting McCain
    * 39% of Moderates are voting McCain
    * 34% of Pro-Choice voters are voting McCain
    * 53% of Central Florida is voting McCain
    * 18% of registered Democrats are voting McCain
    * 44% of Independents are voting McCain
    * 39% of non-Religious people are voting McCain.

  438. 1. Senate Rules and Admin Committee defines the rules for an election and then the FEC is supposed to implement them. And even though the US Constitution states natural born as one of the eligibility requirements, there are NO rules stating that someone must see a candidate’s birth certificate!
    ——————————————
    I think the court needs to speak to the issue. The last time I checked the consitution was the supreme law of the land, and it did not take an act of congress to enforce its provisions.

  439. Couple of news tidbits to pass along:

    John McCain will be on Meet the Press Sunday–that means you know who will be on there Nov. 2.
    Michelle Obama is giving the Democratic radio address on Saturday. That should be a hoot..

    Also, if you want to see how Obama has changed the political discourse of this country, go over to the Democratic Underground for awhile. I haven’t been there in months ever since it evolved into Obama central but I decided to wade in there and look around tonight just for the heck of it. I saw the word “racist” mentioned in regards to almost every news story remotely negative to Obama. There were panicked headlines screaming about slight changes in the polls for McCain. Many are utterly, totally obsessed with attacking Sarah Palin, practically every other post is some kind of smear. While sites like this one at least try to deal in facts and analysis, everything over there is attitude and anger. You’d think those enamored with Obama would be celebrating their candidate rather than spending so much obsessive time attacking those with a different view. I remember when that site promoted the ideals and policies of the Democratic party. What has happened to us, and what has changed people so much that they are so irrationally devoted to a political leader with so little to merit this level of worship?

  440. basil9 Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
    **********************

    22% AA? and only 44% indies? Hard to believe

  441. birdgal Says:

    October 24th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
    Just catching up on the posts. What a wide variety of postings today. I learn something new everyday. I don’t think, I am ready to go out and buy a gun. I would probably shoot myself by mistake.
    ***************************

    Very funny, I think I would do the same…

  442. Guys, I haven’t posted in a long time. I treasure my framed Hillary poster beside my framed FDR poster, but if Barack wins this tonight, we must rally behind him as OUR President. We must take Hillary at face value. Our country faces its most perilous time since 1932. It will take all of us to turn this thing around.

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