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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Pennsylvania And The Good Ol’ USA

Yawn… Another shocker… Yawn.

It’s difficult for Big Media to “shock” Big Pink because we know Big Media is not to be believed as Big Media pushes narratives written by Big Media tool Barack Obama. We recall the New Hampshire primary when most polls showed Obama with a big lead but one dissenting poll had Hillary very very close to winning – Hillary won.

So… yawn… the latest Associated Press poll:

An Associated Press-GfK poll shows the presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000. Two weeks before the election, McCain and Barack Obama are essentially running even among likely voters.

The poll put Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent among those voters who are considered likely to vote on Nov. 4. The survey supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race has narrowed as Republicans drift home to their party. McCain’s “Joe the plumber” analogy also seemed to strike a chord.

The race is still volatile. Three weeks ago, an AP-GfK survey found that Obama had a seven-point lead over McCain.

It’s not only AP. TIPP (TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence claims that in 2004 it was 3/10 of 1% points within President Bush’s margin of “victory”) also has the presidential race fairly tight today.

Contrary to other polls, some of which show Obama ahead by double digits, the IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama’s lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He¹s also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he’s gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead. Obama padded gains in urban areas and with lower-class households, but he slipped 4 points with parents.

McCain gaining in the important suburbs and “No Sale” Obama even as Democrats admit Big Media is protecting Big Media tool Barack Obama.

But no one imagined even in a worse-case scenario such a spectacular bomb as telling donors Sunday to “gird your loins” because a young president Obama will be tested by an international crisis just like young President John Kennedy was.

Scary? You betcha! But somehow, not front-page news.

Again the media showed their incredible bias by giving scattered coverage of Biden’s statements.

As “No Sale” is stamped on Obama nationally, Big Media continues to trash John McCain. The latest study by The Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism, (2,412 stories from 43 newspapers and cable news shows) immediately after the party conventions tallys 60 percent of Big Media articles on McCain were negative with only 14 percent positive.

Earlier this week Big Media spent a few days mocking John McCain for even campaigning in Pennsylvania. Today a more reasoned analysis was published regarding the state of the race in Pennsylvania and why McCain should continue to campaign in that “blue” state”.

Facing seemingly limited options for getting to an Electoral College majority, John McCain’s path to victory likely runs through Pennsylvania, a state that no Republican presidential candidate has won in two decades, where he trails in the polls by a wide margin and where in the past year over a half-million new Democrats have been added to the voter registration rolls.

It’s an unenviable position to be in, except for one thing: Nearly everyone in a position to know thinks the race for Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes is considerably tighter than what recent polls reveal.

Blue state Pennsylvania is tight?

“I don’t believe there’s a double-digit lead,” said Jon Delano, a western Pennsylvania-based political analyst who also serves as an adjunct professor of Public Policy and Politics at Carnegie Mellon University. “The history of the presidential elections here is different.”

Even top Democrats concede that McCain’s deficit in the polls—11 percentage points, according to the latest RealClearPolitics polling average—isn’t a solid indicator of his chances of carrying the state. On Tuesday, CNN reported that an anxious Rendell has sent two recent memos to the Obama campaign requesting that the Democratic nominee spend more time campaigning in Pennsylvania.

“The polls don’t necessarily reflect what will happen on Election Day,” said T.J. Rooney, the state Democratic Party chairman. “We’re not a state that’s accustomed to huge blowouts.”

Can McCain win Pennsylvania? He can if he follows the Hillary Clinton strategy.

Rather, the GOP path to victory runs through the socially conservative parts of the state outside the Philadelphia metropolitan region, and bears a strong resemblance to Hillary Clinton’s winning Democratic primary map.

“How do you flip 140,000 votes? You start by cutting in places like Lackawanna and Luzerne counties,” said the McCain campaign source, referring to Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, the traditionally conservative Democratic population hubs of northeastern Pennsylvania. [snip]

“Winning Philadelphia is not enough for a done deal,” said Delano. “Whether it’s Scranton, Erie, Altoona, Johnstown or the Pittsburgh area, this is a big state. What McCain is counting on is that a lot of Democrats who voted once against Barack Obama in the primary will vote against him again.”

Hillary Clinton Democrats are the key to a McCain win:

Western Pennsylvania, many pols believe, seems to hold the most promise for the McCain campaign. McCain expects to run better than Bush in Pittsburgh’s Allegheny County—which Kerry carried by 97,000 votes in 2004—and in southwestern Pennsylvania, where Obama lost to Clinton by landslide margins.

“Democrats who do well in areas like Johnstown, Wilkes-Barre and Pittsburgh are pro-life, pro-gun Democrats like Bob Casey. The Democrats who seem to do poorly in those areas tend to be pro-choice and questionable on guns,” said Brabender. “I think people are going to be shocked by how well McCain is going to do on the western side and in the center part of the state.”

Hillary Clinton Democrats are the key to a McCain win.

The wily Governor of Pennsylvania Ed Rendell is worried.

Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell has written two separate memos to the Obama campaign in recent days begging for Sen. Obama to come back and campaign in his state. In the memos, Rendell, a former Hillary Clinton supporter, admits to being “a little nervous” about Obama’s chances in the Keystone state. Rendell says that the McCain camp is making a strong push for Pennsylvania, with Sen. McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin spending significant time and resources there recently.

Rendell wants Sen. Obama to return to his state and make three appearances to blunt McCain’s momentum. He recommends a visit to what Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA) labeled “racist” Western Pennsylvania, followed by an appearance in the capital of Harrisburg and a “large rally” in Philadelphia. But Obama’s presence alone will not seal the deal, according to Rendell. So he wants the Obama campaign to bring Sen. Clinton and former president Clinton along with him, presumably to smooth things over with Pennsylvania’s small townspeople, whom Obama once derided as “bitter” gun-loving religious zealots.

The Obama campaign has been nervous about Pennsylvania since Clinton trounced Obama by 10 points in the primary there. The selection of Joe Biden as his running mate was as much about Biden’s Scranton roots as it was about his foreign policy experience. And the campaign has good reason to worry. Obama’s own internal polling shows him with only a two-point lead in the state. It’s probably closer than that given that internal polls are notoriously skewed toward the campaign conducing them. If Obama follows Rendell’s advice and makes an emergency swing through Pennsylvania, it will be more telling of Sen. McCain’s chances in the election than any public poll result.

Governor Ed Rendell is no fool. Rendell is nervous for good reason - Pennsylvanians, like most Americans, don’t like to be called “racists“.

Only after the humiliating loss in the Pennsylvania primary did the Obama campaign confessed to problems for arugula Obama in Pennsylvania.

If someone in SF asks you about those “strange rural people in PA”…don’t indulge their liberal, latte drinking bull shit…Just tell them if they want to understand rural and ethnic PA that they should get in the Prius’s and drive down to Bakersfield or any of the other mid state towns in California where there are people who actually lead ordinary lives and care about God and own guns…. [snip]

Bittergate hurt a lot – bc is slowed down and then with the poor debate performance stopped what was truly real closing momentum. [snip]

… we’ve just got to find a way to reach seniors…. [snip]

Working class PA folks, esp those over 45, don’t trust Obama…this is a problem and other than getting them to meet Obama retail style…don’t know how we solve it, unless we can get him to do a quick tour of duty in Iraq…

Now, the problems are leaking out in advance of voting. Obama is ahead in Pennsylvania by only 2% according to private polls conducted for the Obama campaign and leaked to radio talk show host Steve Corbett.

Big Media is working with the Obama campaign to bamboozle Americans.

Americans and the voters of Pennsylvania continue to resist Obama and Big Media.

The bamboozlement continues.

The fight continues. Never give up. NObama. NOvember.

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605 comments to Pennsylvania And The Good Ol’ USA

  • NewMexicoFan

    So it comes down to small town, gun toting, bitter Small towns.

    McCain has the momentum and it is his election to lose at this point.

  • Admin
    Great article
    This race is far from over! I can not wait for the networks to announce McCain stuns Obama in PA on election night while polls across the country are still open.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Oh, I forgot, Racists, gun toting, bitter small towns.

    O has more than one Dem with his foot in his mouth. The Gov of PA and Biden might work well together.

  • According to Hannity internal Obama polls have him up only by 2 points in PA

  • skmf12

    oh admin,

    i hope mccain can pull this out, I WISH MCCAIN WOULD BRING THE WHOLE ‘BITTER SMALL TOWN’ THING BACK TO LIFE… these people need to be reminded of the REAL obama…

    i wonder what you think about our chances…
    do you have hope?

  • NewMexicoFan

    Do you remember how Hillary was so close in Texas? I called people and ask them to vote. She won. He stole the caucus.

    THERE IS NO CAUCUS IN THE GE.

  • gonzotx

    I think the Fraud has bought up most if not all the add time and the stations are not giving the 527’s any air time. Hell NBC announced it was going to align itself with ACORN on election night to report “abuse”. This is scary times. Big Brother is here already…

  • basil9

    Admin!

    We are not worthy!

    ::dropping to the floor and bowing down::

    :LOL: :grin: :-D

  • shenanigans

    trying to post it again:

    Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
    By Orson Scott Card

    Editor’s note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism.

    An open letter to the local daily paper — almost every local daily paper in America:

    I remember reading All the President’s Men and thinking: That’s journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

    This housing crisis didn’t come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

    It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

    What is a risky loan? It’s a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

    The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can’t repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can’t make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.

    They end up worse off than before.

    This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

    Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It’s as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

    Isn’t there a story here? Doesn’t journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren’t you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

    I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. “Housing-gate,” no doubt. Or “Fannie-gate.”

    Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

    As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled “Do Facts Matter?” ( http://snipurl.com/457townhall_com ): “Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury.”

    These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was … the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was … the Republican Party.

    Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

    What? It’s not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

    Now let’s follow the money … right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

    And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate’s campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

    If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

    But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an “adviser” to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama’s people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn’t listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

    You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

    If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

    If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

    There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

    If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

    Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That’s what you claim you do, when you accept people’s money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

    But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

    If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth — even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

    Because that’s what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don’t like the probable consequences. That’s what honesty means . That’s how trust is earned.

    Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

    Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored the story of John Edwards’s own adultery for many months.

    So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

    Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

    You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

    That’s where you are right now.

    It’s not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

    If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

    Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation’s prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama’s door.

    You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

    This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

    If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe — and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

    If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not journalists by any standard.

    You’re just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it’s time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a news paper in our city.

    This article first appeared in The Rhinoceros Times of Greensboro, North Carolina, and is used here by permission.

  • JanH

    So if, as Obama has now stated (I believe this is his 2nd try at covering his ass on this issue), that any president would probably be tested withing the 1st 6 months…then why bring it up in the first place? Was Biden trying to pump his master up by saying that he was up for the job or was he just putting his foot in his mouth again and stating once again that Obama wasn’t ready and never would be?

    Mr. Obama: your second excuse is as flimsy as your first one was. Onto excuse #3…

  • JanH

    withing=within

  • admin

    New video of POW McCain (from French National Archives):

  • confloyd

    McCain was goodlooking in his day!

  • Floridian

    I voted today. I am a female Senior Citizen and was indeed excited when Hillary ran for the presidential nomination. She stood for all the things I do and Bill would have been a great asset to her administration. We could have the two for one bargain of the century. But, it wasn’t meant to be. After many days of deep thought, I found I couldn’t vote for McCain as I don’t agree with many of his programs and I couldn’t vote for Obama as I feel he stole the nomination from Hillary without the credentials to do the job. So, I did what I felt was right even though it doesn’t count. I wrote in Hillary Clinton. I don’t know why but it made me feel good and I feel it was the only thing I could do and live with myself. I considered not voting at all, but there were people running that I wanted to make sure I covered and agenda of interest. I can’t imagine that they have a vote only allowing a man and woman to make a lifetime commitment. Why does the government feel they have the right to make laws about love? With money buying the presidency and votes against love, I am very confused about the American dream.

  • Idunn

    Nothing wrong with voting your conscience, imo.

    Me? I had no problem voting McCain.

  • Idunn

    In fact…I might go and vote for him again tomorrow. ;)

  • confloyd

    He was very good looking in his day
    Watch his A&E bio on youtube it is a 9 part series.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQuJKScFrJg

  • basil9

    That clip breaks my heart.

    When he could barely bring himself to speak about his wife and kids . . . his lower lip quivering, his voice breaking . . .

    How anyone in their right mind can vote for BO over this real hero is completely beyond my comprehension.

  • basil9

    shenanigans,

    I heard that article on talk radio today.

    it’s excellent.

  • bluegirl

    Wow! Such lovely names we Pennsylvanians are being called these days, lol.

    I’m almost afraid to admit I am one, lol. It’s funny, in all my 62 years, I’ve never been called any of these names. Why? Because they don’t fit most Pennsylvanians, no matter what Bambi would like everyone to believe.

    Then Obama comes along and viola! We are racist, rednecks, bitter, turning to our guns and religion.

    Well, I don’t own a gun, but what is wrong with religion? I have always been against guns myself until I’ve seen Obama at work. Now I see that I’ve been wrong about owning guns. I still don’t like the things, but when I think that he could take away that constitutional right and he and his thugs would be left in charge of us, that made me change my mind.

    For all of you wondering if Bambi will take PA. My guess would be a resounding, NO. I don’t believe the polls for one thing and for another, Admin is right in that we don’t like to be called these names. I think most Pennsylvanians are still remembering the “bitter” remarks and now with Murtha’s “racist” and “redneck” comments added to it, I can’t believe the people would turn around and vote for the nitwit.

  • Lin67

    Bluegirl, I just read that the republican running against Murtha, a retired Colonel, didn’t expect to have any chance at all, and it started more as a protest, but now it is looking like he just might have a chance, he decided to do a poll and he isn’t that far behind. Do you hear anything about that there?

  • PaminPA

    Bluegirl: I’m with you. I don’t like be called names either and I’m from eastern PA.

    Like you, I’m not convinced BO will take PA. People around here are very concerned about his ideas and associations and think he’s way too liberal… including the traditional Democrats. If he doesn’t run up the count in Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Scranton, Wilkes Barre and Pittsburgh (and I think Murtha’s helping there!), I think McCain can win it.

  • birdgal

    Let’s hear it for PA! Thanks for checking in.

  • bluegirl

    Lin 67, I haven’t heard anything here. I live in the central part of PA, but when they were showing Murtha on Fox (I think), they then showed a clip of his opponent. I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if Murtha lost. What was that man thinking? LOL

    PaminPA, I will be very surprised if bambi wins PA and will be very disappointed if he does. Around here, I’m really not seeing very many signs in people’s yards, but the ones I do see are mostly of McCain/Palin. There are only a few Obama signs.

    My one sister had Hillary signs on her front doors and yard during the primary, but now she is sticking with the party, but she doesn’t even have one Obama sign out, lol. She is angry with me because I’ve gone to McCain since bambi stole everything away from Hillary.

  • bluegirl

    When I learned Bob Casey was supporting bambi, I sent Casey an email and told him I would never again vote for him. I really gave him a piece of my mind, and told him just what I thought of Obama, lol.

    I thought I would have gotten an email acknowledging my email to him, but never heard a peep.

  • bluegirl

    Where is everyone?

  • Probably watching the world series

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Todays my birthday and I’ve made a decision on what will be best for my country by wishing for the best

  • bluegirl

    Happy birthday justme.

  • bluegirl

    Lin67, I came back in here to let you know they just had Murtha’s opponent on Hannity and I thought he said one poll actually has him ahead now, lol. It serves Murtha right.

  • PaminPA

    Murtha is an embarrassment to the state of PA! I sent a contribution to Bill Russell when he announced his candidacy because I was so disgusted with Murtha’s trashing of the Marines. Now, every time Murtha opens his mouth and makes another ridiculous declaration, I send more money to Russell. (At this rate, I’m going to go broke!)

    Bluegirl: I live in Chester county (20 miles west of Phila) and my sister is in Bucks county (20 miles north of Phila) and she’s hearing the same thing. Both counties would have easily gone to HRC but BHO requires too much of a leap of faith. I also think that Ed Rendell’s soft endorsement of BHO isn’t helping any, especially after his enthusiastic endorsement of HRC. Remember when he was on TV talking her up ALL the time. After BHO loses the state, I suspect Ed’s going to sit back and say, ‘I told you so’.

    Are you hearing anything negative about Sarah in central PA? I’m not hearing anything here but have been noticing articles claiming she’s a liability?!? Of course, these articles are from the the biased media so I don’t put much credence in them. I’m not sure whether the media is savvy enough to realize that she was added to the ticket to ensure the base was solid given McCain’s perceived moderate ways.

    We’ll be away for the election so we already sent in our absentee ballots… add 2 more to the McCain/Palin tally.

  • Shenanigans,

    I just read the editorial by Orson Scott Card, which was listed on the Drudge Report. Orson Scott Card is apparently still a Mormon, as he was born, but also a Democrat, not a Dimocrat, and a newspaper reporter! He also wrote one of my son’s and daughter’s all-time favorite works of science fiction, “Ender’s Game.” It’s the first in a series. Orson Scott Card is brilliant, and I love this editorial!

  • bluegirl

    rjk, I never thought of that. I guess that’s what my hubby is watching in the den.

    I’m not much of a sports fan.

  • Obama’s team losing.
    Phillies winning 3-0

  • bluegirl

    PaminPA,

    I really don’t get to talk to that many people, but I haven’t heard anything negative about Sarah here.

    My one son lived all around Philly for about 10 years, but lives in NJ now, just across the river from Manhatten. We used to go to Philly alot when he lived nearby. I live about 40 miles from State College. There are a couple of families that live here that were from Bucks County. One family moved here years ago and then friends of theirs moved here shortly after.

    I know if Rendell could run again, he would not get my vote. I know he supported Hillary, but when he went on to support bambi, then he lost me. I am so thouroughly disgusted with the Dems right now, so I’m voting straight Repub. lol.

  • bluegirl

    rjk, I was right my hubby is watching the series. I just asked him if the Phillies are winning 3-0 and he said yes. I’m not into sports, but have been to a few Phillies games, but not for years. I do root for them though.

    My husband and sons are all Phillies, Flyers, and Eagles fans.

  • PaminPA

    Bluegirl:
    I was born and raised in NJ and still have a vacation home there. Coincidentally, I was driving up from the shore today and didn’t see one presidential sign, not one in over 60 miles. Plenty of signs for the local races. I wonder what that’s about… not that the outcome in NJ will be any surprise.

  • henry

    41 College educated, mesculin green eating, Western Pennsylvanian, gay, don’t own a gun, pro-choice, former democrat(as of Nov 5) pulling my first lever for a Republican on Nov 4. Of the 10 members of my immediate family registered democrat to vote 1 for bambi, 1 staying home and eight for McCain. All live in PA.

  • bluegirl

    PaminPA, we used to go to the Jersey shore. We mostly went to Wildwood, but for the past several years, we’ve been taking to the Smoky Mountains in TN instead.

    There haven’t been many signs around here either or other towns we’ve been through recently. I’ve seen more local signs than presidential also. I’ve also seen more McCain than Obama signs. Now that’s a good sign, lol.

  • JanH

    Justme,

    Happy birthday to you! :)

  • JanH

    Go vote at: gretawire.foxnews.com

    It’s about a CNN reporter who deliberately maligned Palin by misquoting her.

  • PaminPA

    Henry:
    I hear you. It’s not easy being abandoned by your party, is it? You almost feel like a part of your identity is being taken away… which, I guess, is exactly what’s happening.
    I honestly believe that the majority of Americans are fairly moderate, so why are we being represented by these extremes? As if Pelosi and Reid weren’t enough, we could end up with BHO and a filibuster proof senate… with NO checks and balances… a very frightening prospect.

  • bluegirl

    Henry,

    I was orginally going to stay home, but then thought that would just be making bambi one step closer to winning so decided to vote for McCain. I then talked my hubby into doing the same and now we are both voting straight Repub.

    My one son was going to stay home, but now he’s decided to go and vote for McCain.

  • bluegirl

    I don’t know why so many people are trashing Sarah so. I remember how they all trashed Hillary and now they are doing it to Sarah. Women still have a long way to go. I was hoping to see a woman president in my lifetime, but now I’m thinking that may not happen.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Just Me. Happy Birthday.

    So, if people are unwilling to declare by lawn signs who they support at the national level, why should they be willing to tell the truth when asked by a pollster. I think peoples preferences are being held very close to the vest.

  • PaminPA

    NewMexicoFan:
    I think you’re absolutely right about people keeping their voting preference private. We had a convasser come to our door the other night (it’s almost a bi-weekly event here) and my husband answered the door. He said they were decked out in BHO shirts, BHO hats and BHO pins. When asked who he was voting for, he responded that he preferred not to discuss it. (You would have thought that would be telling, but the canvassers persisted, so he closed the door.)
    Now, had I answered the door….

  • shenanigans

    I canvassed western PA. It was somewhat Hillary friendly, not very BO friendly. Mostly, they were Republicans!

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Thank you my Hill friends! McCain wasn’t who convinced me it was you all despite my family, friends, and loved one all are angry with me for swaying away. But it was you all that stood there for me and made me not feel alone but part of the family. Its not easy but you made it easy. Gov. Palin just made it slightly easier to vote for McCain/Palin.

  • shenanigans

    # PaminPA Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Henry:
    I hear you. It’s not easy being abandoned by your party, is it? You almost feel like a part of your identity is being taken away… which, I guess, is exactly what’s happening.
    I honestly believe that the majority of Americans are fairly moderate, so why are we being represented by these extremes? As if Pelosi and Reid weren’t enough, we could end up with BHO and a filibuster proof senate… with NO checks and balances… a very frightening prospect.
    ————–
    I agree. I think that’s the point we need to drive home now. That there has to be a balance to the government. With a democratic majority and fillibuster…we are all doomed.

  • wbboei

    I think the Fraud has bought up most if not all the add time and the stations are not giving the 527’s any air time. Hell NBC announced it was going to align itself with ACORN on election night to report “abuse”. This is scary times. Big Brother is here already…
    ——————————————–
    gonzo: I dont know whether to send you a six pack, a bottle of malox or some laughing gas. Courage. It is always darkest before the dawn. Chicken Little–the sky is falling in. You too Independent. You guys are like a tag team. Your earlier comment today about everybody here being depressed, etc. Dont you think we got one victory coming to us just by the law of averages. If I am wrong you can tell me so on election night but in the meantime-courage.

  • PaminPA

    Some potential news on Berg v Obama.

    Amerciasright is reporting that they’re expecting a ruling from Judge Surrick on Thursday or Friday.

  • birdgal

    wbboei: I keep thinking of Truman.

  • confloyd

    reutgers saying BO has opened a double digit lead against McCain. WTF is wrong with people, do they want this to become a communist nation. Why is Putin getting ships down to Venezuela?? People just aren’t listening!

  • birdgal

    wbboei: We have our own eeyores on this site. Visit Hillbuzz, and they talk about the “eeyores.” Helped to reframe the issue.

  • birdgal

    confloyd: How do you go from 2% ahead to double digits overnight? Is this a national poll? Visit Hillbuzz, and read Admin’s posting on polling.

  • wbboei

    41 College educated, mesculin green eating, Western Pennsylvanian, gay, don’t own a gun, pro-choice, former democrat(as of Nov 5) pulling my first lever for a Republican on Nov 4. Of the 10 members of my immediate family registered democrat to vote 1 for bambi, 1 staying home and eight for McCain. All live in PA.
    ————————————–
    henry: they still have the Log Cabin Republicans do they not?

  • Emjay

    Mariaconz

    welcome back…missed you.
    ———————————–
    wbboei

    Michael Savage on 1520 Okie City station reading Yeats’ Second Coming and then riffing on his usual hates.

  • henry

    PaminPa
    I am also one of the newly registered Dems in PA and I did it expressly to vote for Clinton. Just moved from NYC, where by the way the redneck that I am voted twice for Dinkins, and had planned on registering as an independent. The majority of legitimate new registrations were probably for waffles but I’d bet a significant number of R’s switched parties to keep one or the other of the two candidates out. If I remember correctly McCain had a lock before the deadline arrived to switch parties.

  • wbboei

    PaminPA Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
    Some potential news on Berg v Obama.

    Amerciasright is reporting that they’re expecting a ruling from Judge Surrick on Thursday or Friday.
    —————————————-
    Interesting> I assume he is ruling on the motion to dismiss. If he rules in favor of Berg then things could get interesting, since the defendant failed to respond to the request for admissions in a timely manner. Since today in Wednesday, I guess that means there will be a decision tomorrow or the next day. Similar cases pending in Washington and Hawaii.

  • wbboei

    Michael Savage on 1520 Okie City station reading Yeats’ Second Coming and then riffing on his usual hates
    ——————————————-
    Emjay: so nice to hear Michael is in a gothic mood. He is beautiful when he is gothic.

  • marie3548

    littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31651_Zombie-_Billy_Ayers_Forgotten_Communist_Manifesto_Prairie_Fire
    Zombie: Billy Ayers’ Forgotten Communist Manifesto, ‘Prairie Fire’
    Politics | Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19:08 pm PST
    In an exclusive report linked here for the first time, Zombie has acquired a copy of a long-forgotten book by Barack Obama associate Bill Ayers, wife Bernardine Dohrn, and two other Weather Underground members, dedicated to RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan, written while they were in hiding from the authorities: William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire

  • henry

    wbboei
    Yes, they still exist. I plan on registering independent after the election as neither party represents me. I guess I have become a moderate. And as such feel that I must vote straight Rep on a national level as I am terrified of a bambi/Dem congress.

  • wbboei

    I keep thinking of Truman
    ————————————–
    Pendergast machine nothwithstanding he was one of us. He knew how to deal with doug out doug.

  • JanH

    Greta reported that there is now a list of 3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers.

    I think their teaching licenses should all be revoked asap!

  • ShortTermer

    Happy birthday, JustMe and many more.

    I like the slogan, “Truman in a skirt!” for Palin. That says it all.

    By the way, my daughter has been LURKING AND reading our posts. She and her little family are pro-McCain/Palin. I sent her my pink McCain/Palin tshirt from the Palin Rally at the Villages here. My grandson wore it [I said but it is PINKKKK!] when he and his wife went out to eat with his in-laws who are pro-nObama -because he is nObama is PRO-CHOICE!!PPPPPPPPPPPeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkke!

  • wbboei

    “eeyores
    ———————————–
    are they working for bambi or putin? It may be a distinction without a difference.

  • wbboei

    3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers
    ————————————–
    So bombing the capital is now a core tenant of academic freedom?

  • Lin67

    bluegirl Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
    Lin67, I came back in here to let you know they just had Murtha’s opponent on Hannity and I thought he said one poll actually has him ahead now, lol. It serves Murtha right.
    ====

    Yay! I can’t stomach Murtha after what he said about the marines. It’s time for him to retire. He’s been in there 30 years anyway.

  • birdgal

    JanH Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
    Greta reported that there is now a list of 3000 educators supporting Bill Ayers.

    I think their teaching licenses should all be revoked asap!

    ==============================================

    And for those 3,000, one would be able to find 3,000 others, who do not support Ayers. He is a radical, and promotes a radicalized agenda. I wouldn’t trust him, as far as I could throw him. He should be in prison, along with Bernadine. Anyone who would dedicate a book to Sirhan Sirhan doesn’t deserve to be an educator of our young people.

  • wbboei

    Lin: what may I ask did he say about the marines? He is a bird colonel in the corps.

  • Any of those educators who signed it that work for state colleges or universities should be fired.

  • Emjay

    justme

    Happy Birthday !!!!
    ————————-

    wbboei

    I’ll pitch in a bit for gonzo’s sixpack.
    —————————————

    Everyone

    Listening to the former and present CEOs of bonding-rating houses like Moody’s, Standard & Poor, etc., this afternoon was eerily like the day the tobacco companies’ CEOs raised their hands and swore that tobacco had no negative effects on the human body.

  • wbboei

    dickhead morris is right for once–

    Obama’s lingering problem is that with all his money, he does not have anything new to say. He has been repeating the same mantra for his campaign over and over again ever since the spring. By now, we all know that he wants to extend health insurance to “47 million Americans” (never mind that 10 million are here illegally) and cut taxes for “95 percent of the population” (never mind that half don’t pay any taxes to begin with and the “tax cut” is really just a welfare check).

    McCain’s advertising is powering a bold new message, inspired by Joe the plumber: Obama will use the tax code to redistribute wealth.

    The social populist backlash against his proposals is closing the lead that Obama opened up as a result of the financial crisis. With things calmer on Wall Street (our fingers tremble as we write this), voters have two weeks to ponder what the onset of a socialist presidency would mean for Americans.

    McCain has enough money to punch his message through. It will not get drowned by a sea of Obama media. But McCain’s supporters must realize that this race is far from over. There is a realistic chance that he can win. And if there was ever a time for his supporters to open up their checkbooks, it is now.

  • debbie

    What can we do to correct the problems with the media bias and still protect freedom of speech?

    What can we do to make sure there is one person one vote?

    What can we do to limit corporate influence in congress and the administration?

    What can we do to make the elections fair to ALL those who seek to run regardless of party affiliation

    How can we make it so third parties can compete on an equal playing field with the 2 major parties.

    What can we do to make our elected officials more accountable and their actions more transparent to the people they serve?

    What can we do? These are serious questions that need answers!
    This election has exposed more than just flaws in our registration and voting system.
    Our voices are being drowned out by polls and pundits.
    After this election I hope ADMIN will guide us to find the solutions so that we can’t fix these problems.
    I hope we can all stay together to fight the powers that wish to silence us.

  • debbie

    Justme

    Happy Birthday from one October baby to another..All the best!!!

  • harriet brinker

    MUST READ;
    worldnetdaily.com
    Jerome Corsi,author
    View video’ of ties with Obama and Odinga filmed in Kenya. The America tax dollars invested into the Odinga campaign will be seen.
    Two weeks prior to our election TV ads will target Ob ties to Kenya radicals posted on 10/21.
    The Freedom Defense Fund is the entity planning to air the tapes in the battleground states. It can be realized after viewing all the tapes what is possible to happen after 6 months in office of the next President, Ob or Mc.

    Hawaii–Interesting. Ob suddenly took off leaving the campaign. Maybe never to be seen again.
    I am a democrat voting a straight Rep. ticket for the first time in my life.

  • Emjay

    Lest anyone forget…and I seldom see it mentioned, William Ayers would probably still be in prison if the FBI had not screwed up and unlawfully collected evidence against him.

    The Judge was compelled to rule that the prosector dismiss the charges…tainted evidence, fruit of the whatever and all that. Bernadine (Bernadette) was convicted and sentenced…she ran but turned herself in several years after, or somesuch.

    Anyway as a convicted felon, she had, and still has some employment problems.

    Her husband is not tainted in that manner, especially at the U of Chicago. Don’t recall if he ever got tenure though.

  • Emjay

    Asia markets tanking again tonight…includes Hong Kong and Australia

  • NewMexicoFan

    Emjay

    Just the situation you want a Junior Senator to take over who has no idea what Economics is about.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Good Night all.

  • birdgal

    EmJay: Wm. Ayers works at the University of Illinois, at Chicago. Please correct me, if I am wrong. He is working at a state supported school, which I find unconscionable. If he didn’t have a rich father, and the FBI didn’t f*ck up, he would be in jail. I’m not sure, if he has tenure or not. Bernadette (thank you for the correction) is a law school professor. Imagine that. She cannot practice law, but she can teach it. She also benifitted from Ayers connections.

  • Emjay

    But if the Phillys win the series, it follows that a Repub will win the Whitehouse…well, it happened the last time the Philly’s won…hehehehe

    Also, capitulation is beginning to show itself in the stock mkt.

    A good sign, a very good sign.

  • Emjay

    bird

    he is a prof at the University of Chicage, home to many rabble rousers, past and present, in education, economics and a few other departments.

    It’s a private university.

  • ShortTermer

    Today here in Central Florida McCain ran the empty chair ad, saying that Obama is too inexperienced to sit in that chair, and one other one that I really liked as well. But there are tons of ads for nObama that smear McCain.

    I could name about a dozen or more teachers who would sign a peitition against Ayers……..and they would know others.

  • birdgal

    Thanks Emjay. That explains why he has a job.

  • Emjay

    At Northwestern, where my parents went, and met, during the Great Depression, it is still said that U of Chicago is home to the biggest bunch of kooks and Nobel Laureats than anywhere (I would include a second location at this point in time: U of California -Berkeley.)

  • birdgal

    Emjay: LOL! I live in Northern CA, and I would agree with U of Ca at Berkeley. Good school, but lots of kooks and latte liberals.

  • djia

    How Obama Accepts those Funky Donations

    Wednesday, October 22, 2008
    My Friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs Figured it all out:

    WHO IS JOHN GALT? A CONTRIBUTOR TO COLLECTIVIST OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN, OF COURSE!~

    There is enormous amount of money being secreted into the Obama campaign from foreign sources.
    It is fairly safe to say these countries will be richly rewarded – Kenya, Indonesia but most of all – Obama will drop a load on the UN. Fosho. The crooked, corrupt international one world global warmers have the largest stake in this election.

    Back on August 14th, I wrote that Julia Gorin told me a funny story. About four months ago. Her husband’s co-worker wanted to see what would happen if he tried giving a contribution to the Obama campaign via a credit card. He used his Macy’s card. The system accepted it. He tried the same with McCain’s campaign, and the transaction wouldn’t go through.

    KEEP READING THIS!!!!!!

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-obama-accepts-those-funky-donations.html

  • Emjay

    bird

    and Nobel winners…

    I used to schlep out to Berk and Livermore a lot from Iowa, of all places, cause I worked for one of the original National Labs.

    Told wbboei one time…I used to take rooms in one of the houses across the street from the U of SF Med School Hospitals… perfect location to get public transport to either location- the BART ?

  • djia

    Obama’s donor credit card fraud problem
    By Michelle Malkin • October 22, 2008 10:19 AM

    More than a week ago, a north Kansas City couple blew the whistle on credit card fraud benefiting the Obama campaign.

    Investigative journalist Ken Timmerman has uncovered more:

    What do Bart Simpson, Family Guy, Daffy Duck, King Kong, O.J. Simpson, and Raela Odinga have in common?

    All are celebrities; and with the exception of Odinga and O.J. Simpson, they also are fictional characters. And yet, all of them gave money earlier this month to the campaign of Barack Obama, without any apparent effort by the campaign to screen them out as suspect donors.

    …The Obama campaign has turned a blind eye to the possibility of donor fraud. Reportedly, during the heated primary battle with Hillary Clinton, the Obama campaign “turned off” many of the security features on its online donor page, allowing any person with a valid credit card number to donate using any name or address.

    Typically, card merchants require a cardholder’s name to match critical personal details, such as an address or, at the least, a ZIP code.

    Though in recent months the Obama campaign has tightened up security and restored some of the security features used by merchants to weed out fraud, it still has left open easy ways for potential credit card fraud, including techniques similar to those employed by terrorists and drug traffickers to launder illicit funds.

    For example, on Oct. 14, an individual using the name “O.J. Simpson” participated in Obama’s latest small-donor fundraising drive, making a $5 donation through the campaign’s Web site.

    Giving a Los Angeles address, he listed his employer as the “State of Nevada” and his occupation as “convict.” The donor used a disposable “gift” credit card to make the donation.

    The Obama campaign sent O.J. a thank-you note confirming his contribution, and gave him the name of another donor who had agreed to “match” his contribution.

    Four minutes earlier, an individual using the name “Raela Odinga” also made a $5 contribution, using the same credit card.

    The real Raela Odinga became prime minister of Kenya in April and has claimed to be a cousin of Obama’s through a maternal uncle…

  • djia

    michellemalkin.com/2008/10/22/obamas-donor-credit-card-fraud-problem/

  • Emjay

    We knew it was happening dj, but this post makes it clear and simple as to the how ?

    Don’t even like Michelle Malkin, but hope this mini expose’ helps her make it to yhe big time media, even if merely as a “source”

  • djia

    Emjay….. I knew it was happening too, just didn’t know how

    did you read the first one i posted from yidwithlid? it goes into more depth and is supported by screen shots of
    obama’s website during the transactions!!

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-obama-accepts-those-funky-donations.html

  • djia

    here is just a portion ob BMERRY’s article put up today on therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    THIS ARTICLE OUTLINES EVEN MORE RADICAL/MULIM RELATIONSHIPS WITH OBAMA!

    Obama’s Muslim “outreach” problems. Coincidental? Get real!
    October 22, 2008

    SNIP

    Blogger Bill Baar forwarded an article by Tom Mannis at Rogers Park Bench about Barack Obama’s “strong ties” to Sunrise Equities, a Chicago investment company that shut down in August after ripping off investors for a total of approximately $80 million. Sunrise’s CEO, Salman Ibrahim, Vice President Amjed Mahmood, and Vice President (Community Relations) Mohammad Akbar Zahid “vanished” and, as Mannis reports, the “money seems to have gone with them. Now, the Illinois Secretary of State and the FBI are investigating the scandal.”

    About 150 investors, mostly Muslim, learned in August that they had lost all of their savings to the Sunrise Equities fraud. Sunrise Equities, a shariah-compliant investment firm, targeted investors who were mostly Pakistani Muslim immigrants. Many the victims took out home-equity loans to make ends meet.

    What does this all have to do with Obama? For starters, Mannis writes:

    For years, Ibrahim and his associates have been heavily involved in Democrat Party political affairs. Ibrahim donated to Barack Obama and to Joe Biden, Local Democrats, such as 49th Ward Alderman Joe Moore and 50th Ward Alderman Bernie Stone, benefited as well.

    But is that all? Nope. Never. Mannis adds:

    Barack Obama has long had strong ties to Muslims and to Pakistanis. He also has long and strong ties to Sunrise Equities and Salman Ibrahim.

    Obama wanted a satellite fundraising office in the “Devon Corridor,” the largely Indian-Pakistani section of Chicago’s West Ridge neighborhood on the north side. Salman Ibrahim was happy to help. Free office space was given to Obama’s campaign within Sunrise’s general offices at 6355 N. Claremont. Obama has long wooed Muslim voters, and did not have a physical presence in this part of Chicago, so the Sunrise location made logistical sense for Obama. It also made sense for Ibrahim and Sunrise as an effort to curry favor with rising star Barack Obama.

    In 2004, Sunrise Investments gave Barack Obama free office space during his run for US Senate. The Bench has photographs of the ribbon-cutting ceremony. Clearly seen in the photos is Barack Obama and Salman Ibrahim.

    Nor is Mannis’s story finished: “Part Two of this story will examine Obama’s connections to Salman Ibrahim and Sunrise Equities.”

    please be sure to read the entire thing!!!!

  • peppermintgirl4145

    I see that Sarah Palin is a liability to McCain.

    I don’t think that’s the case in Missouri. We were going to see McCain in Belton Monday, but my daughter’s car broke down and we got into a mess.

    My hubby says Palin will be in Springfield Friday (at 2:00 PM today) So I called for tickets that were available after 9AM today. The lady told me she was really sorry but every ticket was claimed by 10:30 AM. I am unsure how large the arena is at Springfield State University. Still, she mustn’t be that big of a liability if all the tickets are gone in an hour and a half.

  • wbboei

    Bernadette (thank you for the correction) is a law school professor. Imagine that. She cannot practice law, but she can teach it. She also benifitted from Ayers connections.
    ——————————————-
    So Ayers wife cannot practice law because she was a terrorist, but can teach it.

    At first blush that may seem like a contradiction, but really it is not.

    As Justice Holmes once said: “if you want to know what the law is don’t ask a judge–ask a thief.”

  • wbboei

    THIS ARTICLE OUTLINES EVEN MORE RADICAL/MULIM RELATIONSHIPS WITH OBAMA!

    Obama’s Muslim “outreach” problems. Coincidental? Get real!
    October 22, 2008

    SNIP

    Blogger Bill Baar forwarded an article by Tom Mannis at Rogers Park Bench about Barack Obama’s “strong ties” to Sunrise Equities, a Chicago investment company that shut down in August after ripping off investors for a total of approximately $80 million. Sunrise’s CEO, Salman Ibrahim, Vice President Amjed Mahmood, and Vice President (Community Relations) Mohammad Akbar Zahid “vanished” and, as Mannis reports, the “money seems to have gone with them. Now, the Illinois Secretary of State and the FBI are investigating the scandal.”
    —————————————–
    That big media would be trying everything possible to shove this guy down our throats is just plain mind-boggling.

  • djia

    wbboei………I TOTALLY AGREE!!

  • djia

    I highly suggest that if you all have not been to therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ before or for a while

    it’s high time to get over there………they have A LOT of really great stuff over there!

    and i am sures…….it all needs help getting out all over the net!

  • wbboei

    Wyatt Earp: I never met a man who required so much self-defending. (referring to an infamous outlaw, who killed a man in a gunfight and then claimed self defense).

    Well. . . . he never met barack obama

  • djia

    my youngest son is named after wyatt earp and Jesse James :D

  • wbboei

    my youngest son is named after wyatt earp and Jesse James
    ————————————–
    that is cool djia. I assume you narrowed it down to two of those four names? What are the two names selected?

  • wbboei

    PBS is planning to air a negative segment about Sarah Palin. They have sent this to only DEMS. We got hold of it. PLEASE, vote. It takes a second.

    Thank you.

    Sarah Palin–PBS vote

    PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the left wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with NO votes.

    The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters in swing states.

    Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.

    1) Click on link and vote YES!

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

    2) Then send this to every McCain-Palin supporter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.

  • October 23, 2008
    Long National Nightmare
    By Steven Stark

    Last night, I woke up in a sweat. I’d had a very bizarre dream . . .

    NOVEMBER 5 — There was Wilson over Hughes. And, of course, Truman over Dewey. But there’s never been a surprise in presidential politics like the one that awaited Americans this morning, who woke up to discover that, somehow, John McCain had been elected president over Barack Obama.

    Not a single poll, tracking or otherwise, had McCain ahead. The articles had all been written: Michael Scherer of Time, “McCain’s Struggles: Four Ways He Went Wrong”; Jonathan Alter of Newsweek, “We’re Heading Left Once Again”; and Joan Vennochi of the Boston Globe, “That’s It for McCain.” To be fair to them, it was hard to find a single major pundit anywhere who predicted McCain would win — though the astute Michael Barone, author of The Almanac of American Politics, did pen a column 17 days before the vote warning that a surprise was possible. Given Barone’s credentials, someone should have listened.

    Of course, Wednesday-morning quarterbacking is ridiculously easy, but in retrospect, what happened should have been crystal clear: Obama’s lead was never as great as the media hype that accompanied it — he only led by two to six points in some major tracking polls. In several of them, Obama tellingly never cleared 50 percent. (There was a larger-than-usual undecided vote.) And whether it was the so-called “Bradley effect” (suggesting a racial element to the vote) or something else, Obama performed last night exactly as he often had in the spring against Hillary Clinton: he ran below expectations.

    Meanwhile, the tsunami of youth support for Obama never materialized. Instead, it was the over-65 crowd who turned out as if the election were a five-o’clock dinner special, and who voted in record numbers for their fellow senior citizen.

    “It was fear of the known versus fear of the unknown — and fear won out,” quipped one McCain aide.

    In the campaign’s final days, as the financial crisis that had boosted Obama in mid September seemed to fade somewhat, McCain found his voice, constantly challenging Obama on taxes. In contrast, Obama essentially took victory laps, promising to “change the world” and drawing huge crowds. He outspent his rival exponentially; even General Colin Powell endorsed him. Meanwhile, his supporters freely gave self-congratulatory interviews to a willing media. The press reported his transition team was already meeting. Cabinet lists were drawn up. Newsweek wondered how “President Obama” would govern. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and other Capitol Hill leaders announced their ambitious plans for the first 100 days; Jesse Jackson promised that the country’s policies toward Israel would soon change.

    It was the “Feiler Faster Thesis,” popularized by Slate blogger Mickey Kaus (and credited to author Bruce Feiler, who wrote Walking the Bible), in action. In an era of short memories and even shorter attention spans, it almost appeared as if Obama was already the incumbent. So, in a time of unrest, voters kicked that incumbent out — after all of a month.

    The ugly surprise
    At first, it wasn’t evident that something extraordinary was brewing last evening. The polls in Virginia closed at 7 pm Eastern time, and that race was too close to call (no surprise there) since, even though Obama was favored in the Old Dominion State, George W. Bush had carried it by eight points both elections.

    But by 8 pm, it began to become apparent that the blowout some in the media and the Obama camp had been predicting might not be materializing. New Hampshire — where pre-election polls had seen Obama up 10 points — was too close to call, a repeat of what had happened almost a year before in the primary between Obama and Clinton. Missouri and Ohio were also too close to call, with McCain showing unexpected strength among working-class and Catholic voters. Just as in 2004, Florida was showing unexpected strength for the Republicans, despite the housing crisis. Then Minnesota began to report and, in a huge surprise, that race, too, was too close to call.

    Eventually, McCain won New Hampshire, Florida, Missouri, and Ohio. And he sealed his narrow victory in the Electoral College by winning out west in Colorado — and Nevada for good measure.

    “Colorado was the key,” said one GOP official early this morning. “It wasn’t pretty, but we always thought we could surprise there. Bush won it by almost five points last time. And an anti-affirmative action proposition on the ballot brought out our voters.”

    Obama conceded around noon today, promising that, though the revolution he promised had been temporarily derailed, “we are the future.” Right now, however, the immediate future belongs to John McCain.

    Whoa, that was scary! Note to self: never listen to Limbaugh before bed time . . .

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/long_national_nightmare.html

  • oklahomahills

    # debbie Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Justme

    Happy Birthday from one October baby to another..All the best!!!
    **************************

    Me too!

  • alcina

    birdgal Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    And for those 3,000, one would be able to find 3,000 others, who do not support Ayers. He is a radical, and promotes a radicalized agenda. I wouldn’t trust him, as far as I could throw him. He should be in prison, along with Bernadine. Anyone who would dedicate a book to Sirhan Sirhan doesn’t deserve to be an educator of our young people.

    ****************************************************************************
    shouldn’t surprise anyone that robert kennedy jr. and kathleen kennedy townsend endorsed HRC.

  • alcina

    oklahomahills Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:48 am
    # debbie Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
    Justme
    Happy Birthday from one October baby to another..All the best!!!
    *************************************************
    all these october birthday’s. maybe we should pitch-in and send a birthday present to our favorite october birthday gal. maybe an assortment of McCain Palin signs for her chappaqua yard?

  • Idunn

    Me: Mid 40’s, college educated, lifelong democrat…started off as a liberal, ended up as a centrist by my early 30’s. I’m pro-choice , pro strong military , pro-civil and human rights , pro- free speech , pro-universal healthcare, anti- affirmative action (as it currently exists), anti-welfare (as it currently exists), and I support stronger gun regulations (especially wrt to gunshow sales) despite the fact that I am a gun owner.

    This year I became an Independent. And I wonder why I didn’t do this sooner. Ideologically, I haven’t been a “democrat” for many years, and I’ve never been a “republican” in terms of ideology. To be honest, I stopped towing the “party line” about 10 years ago, and learned to think for myself. I wouldn’t go back for all the tea in China.

    Both parties engage in ideological blackmail. It’s a power grab to lock up voter blocs. I’m not a “bloc” , I’m an individual. If a political party wants my vote…they have to earn it. No counting on me anymore because there is no “d” or “r” or “l” after my name.

  • djia

    # wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am

    my youngest son is named after wyatt earp and Jesse James
    ————————————–
    that is cool djia. I assume you narrowed it down to two of those four names? What are the two names selected?
    ____________________________
    Wyatt James :D

  • basil9

    PROOF the PRIMARIES were a FRAUD
    only 4 pledged delegates separated HRC and BO
    (although now HRC has once again involked the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ at an Al Franken rally I’m no sto sure it matters)

    from rabble rouser at NQ

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/22/breaking-the-numbers-dont-lie-but-the-dnc-does/

  • freckles

    To keep in mind for after the election. We need an overhaul of the electoral system and everything that goes with it. Do we still need the electoral college?

    On my ballot were 46 judges vying for 23 judicial seats. Now nobody who doesn’t live in the courthouse can possible know 23 judge aspirants.
    That means that whoever can get their ads on TV can win. That means that judges have to get money. Where are they getting the money? To whom are they beholden? And how do we decide between judges who get support because they do a good job and those who get support from interest groups because they aren’t so impartial? We should have some mechanism to rate these judges for us and take them out of the campaign contribution game.

    Then there are the machines — I used one for the first time and it was pretty good. Then there are the secs. of state — too many Katherine Harris types.

    Then there are caucuses which should be abolished on a federal level and restricted to fields under 100 thousand or less. We might restrict the time period in which a candidate can raise or spend money. Let’s clean up the system we have allowed to turn into a sewer. And maybe we should have a no-tolerance philosophy — violate the rules and you’re out.

    How about a voting convention on voting?

    P.S. Who gave O 150 million dollars? And why?

  • freckles

    IDunn — I love your politics. You make a good case — wanna run for something?

  • NewMexicoFan

    Idunn

    I agree. I called myself a D, but I knew there were things that I agreed with the Rs in and there were areas that the Ds were just too liberal in. I believe in everyone eligible being allowed to vote, and making it easy. I don’t believe in one person voting 15 times, or bringing in bus loads of people to an area, registering them, letting them vote, and then busing them home.

    I had always felt I would vote for the person, but had never ventured out of the D area. I guess I should be sorry I got so involved, but had I not, I fear that I would not know what I know now.

    The Ds did not deserve my loyalty, and I will no longer give it.

    Some of my D friends are finding this hard to accept. In fact, they kinda slam me, like you are just bitter that HRC did not win. When I jump on them for that, and say, have you checked out his Illinois legisltive record, or his Senatorial record? They say NO. Do you know who he runs around with, the response is, they are all crooks. I reply, they are crooks because you allow them to be crooks.

    Anyway, I do not challenge them, I simply state who I am supporting, and then find them making some sort of cut at me to justify what they are doing.

    However, I do have a number who are going with me to vote for McCain. In my own little circle that % is higher than what they are predicting. Is this true country wide? I guess we will know on election day in November.

  • NewMexicoFan

    news.aol.com/elections/article/first-ladys-role-vague-but-pressure-high/221554?icid=200100397×1212112495x1200701213

    Vote for Cindy McCain as the Best First Lady.

    I find this vote to be stupid, but I really do think a women who has run a successful company, has the experience to run the White House.

    Unfortunately, MOs career has been contrived for her, upped every level a her husband’s career has advanced. That does not qualitfy her for First Lady. Of course I feel his career has been contrived also.

  • djia

    From Charleston WV News

    Values matter in an American president
    Thursday October 23, 2008

    APPARENTLY there is something about Sarah Palin that causes some people to think of her as either the best of candidates or the worst of candidates. She draws enthusiastic crowds and provokes visceral hostility in the media.
    The issue that is raised most often is her relative lack of experience and the fact that she would be “a heartbeat away from the presidency” if Sen. John McCain were elected.
    But Barack Obama has even less experience – none in an executive capacity – and his would itself be the heartbeat of the presidency if he were elected.
    Palin’s record is on the record, while whole years of Obama’s life are engulfed in fog, and he has had to explain away one after another of the astounding and vile people he has not merely “associated” with but has had political alliances with, and to whom he has directed the taxpayers’ money and other money.
    Palin has had executive experience – and the White House is the executive branch of government. We don’t have to judge her by her rhetoric because she has a record.
    We don’t know what Barack Obama will actually do, because he has actually done very little for which he was personally accountable. Even as a state legislator, he voted “present” innumerable times instead of taking a stand one way or the other on tough issues.
    “Clean up the mess in Washington”?
    He was part of the mess in Chicago and lined up with the Daley machine against reformers.
    He is also part of the mess in Washington, not only with numerous earmarks, but also as the Senate’s second largest recipient of money from Fannie Mae, and someone whose campaign has this year sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines, who was at the heart of the subprime crisis.
    Why, then, the enthusiasm for Obama and the hostility to Sarah Palin in the media?
    One reason of course is that Obama is ideologically much closer to the views of the media than is Palin.
    But there is more to it than that. There are other conservative politicians who do not evoke such anger, spite and hate.
    Palin is the one real outsider among the four candidates for the presidency and vice-presidency on the Republican and Democratic tickets.
    Her whole career has been spent outside the Washington Beltway.

    More than that, her whole life has been outside the realm familiar to the intelligentsia of the media.
    She didn’t go to the big-name colleges and imbibe the heady atmosphere that leaves so many feeling that they are special folks.
    She doesn’t talk the way they talk or think the way they think.
    Worse yet, from the media’s perspective, Palin does not seek their Good Housekeeping seal of approval.
    Much is made of Sen. Joe Biden’s “experience.” But Frederick the Great said that experience matters only when valid conclusions are drawn from it.
    Biden’s “experience” has been a long history of being on the wrong side of issue after issue in foreign policy.
    He was one of those senators who voted to pull the plug on financial aid to South Vietnam, which was still defending itself from Communist invaders after the pullout of American troops.
    Biden opposed Ronald Reagan’s military buildup that helped win the Cold War. He opposed the surge in Iraq last year.
    Palin will not be ready to become president of the United States on the first day that she and John McCain take office. Nobody is.
    But being vice president is a job that can allow a lot of time for studying, and everything about Palin’s career says that she is a bright gal with her head on straight.
    The country needs that far more than it needs people with glib answers to media “gotcha” questions.
    Whatever the shortcomings of John McCain and Sarah Palin, they are people whose values are the values of this nation, whose loyalty and dedication to this country’s fundamental institutions are beyond question because they have not spent decades working with people who hate America.
    Nor are they people whose judgments have been proved wrong consistently during decades of Beltway “experience.”

    http://www.dailymail.com/Opinion/tsowell/200810230050

  • djia

    so sorry forgot to include the author info for article i just poisted

    Thomas Sowell; Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. His Web site is http://www.tsowell.com.

  • Lin67

    wbboei Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
    Lin: what may I ask did he say about the marines? He is a bird colonel in the corps.
    =========
    This was concerning the Haditha marines, and he held a press conference and stated that “they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

    He made this statement before any investigation was done, put these marines through hell, used it for political purposes against Bush, and they were all acquitted, they were innocent. One is now sueing Murtha for defamation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101345.html

    Murtha had them guilty until proven innocent. His area of PA from what I read is very heavy with retired military, and they didn’t take to Murtha’s accusations before any investigation very well. That’s why he is in trouble there.

    This link quotes a yahoo news article that no longer exists but it is saying that the Murtha was briefed after he claimed they deliberately killed innocents.
    hotair.com/archives/2006/08/04/marine-corps-accuses-murtha-of-lying-about-haditha-briefings/

    You can google Murtha and Haditha marines and you will get a lot of hits. I would also suspect this has something to do with why that recent Military Times poll has Marines supporting John McCain with stronger numbers than any of the other branches.

  • Idunn

    I agree. I called myself a D, but I knew there were things that I agreed with the Rs in and there were areas that the Ds were just too liberal in. I believe in everyone eligible being allowed to vote, and making it easy. I don’t believe in one person voting 15 times, or bringing in bus loads of people to an area, registering them, letting them vote, and then busing them home.

    Well, I also get a ration of shit, being bi-racial , because I don’t agree with affirmative action or welfare (in their present states). My personal feeling is that the democratic party uses these things to bribe AA’s into voting dem. You come with us, and we’ll give you whatever you want. But the truth of the matter, is…in the long term , these “giveways” don’t help AA’s. They don’t encourage personal responsibility. In fact, they do just the opposite, because the goal for the party isn’t REALLY to strengthen the AA community, it’s to keep the AA community subservient and tied to the party. You don’t lift people out of poverty by “taking care of them”…you lift people out of poverty to giving them access to education and encouraging them to compete.

    As far as affirmative action goes…why should I be given a job over a more qualified candidate simply because I’m AA or a woman? And if I am, should I REALLY be surprised when the more qualified candidate comes to resent me for that?

    And here’s another thing that bugs me: white people so bent of PROVING they aren’t racists, that they pounce on everything and everyone for “imaginary racism”. They want to feel better about themselves, and that’s all well and good , but I’m TRYING to realize a world where the color of my skin doesn’t matter to anyone. Calling white people “racists” when they truly aren’t racist just harbors resentment. It worsens race relations…it doesn’t improve them. You’re good intentions are setting us back to square 1, people.

    (Wonder what the Obamabot lurkers are saying about me right now. LOL!)

  • djia

    Obama: Most Secretive Democratic Presidential Candidate Ever

    Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:58 PM

    By: David A. Patten

    Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign says his campaign will bring a new level of honesty and transparency to the White House. Obama proudly touts that he and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla, passed a law requiring more transparency via a public database of all federal spending.

    But when it comes to offering the public documents about his own public and private activities, Obama’s record for openness gets an “F” grade.

    During the heated Democratic primary, Obama complained of the Bush White House being “one of the most secretive administrations in our history” and chided Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.

    Ironically, Obama, just days away from possibly being elected president, continues to stonewall a growing chorus of information requests for documents about his legislative, personal health, education, financing, and background — leaving many voters to cast ballots based on incomplete information.

    And serious questions about his past continue to swirl as Election Day looms, fueled in part by his own campaign’s refusal to make relevant documents available.

    And the press, usually banging at the door for candidates to make “full disclosure” is strangely quiet about Obama’s stonewalling.

    A Newsmax survey of key Obama aspects of Obama’s public and private life continued to be shielded from the public.

    Among the examples:

    * Obama has released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hands, released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1500 pages. After criticism on the matter, last week the Obama campaign also released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama. All test results appeared normal, but many details about his health remain a mystery.

    * Obama has refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois, and has been unable to produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other correspondence from his days in the Illinois state senate. There are also no appointment calendars available of his official activities. “It could have been thrown out,” Obama said while on the campaign trail during the Democratic primary. “I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.”

    * Obama has not released his client list as an attorney or his billing records. Obama has maintained that he only performed a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June. But he has not released billing records that would prove this assertion.

    * Obama won’t release his college records from Occidental College where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia.

    * Obama’s campaign refuses to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades. President George W. Bush, and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry, all released their college transcripts. (McCain has refused to release his Naval Academy transcript.)

    * Obama’s college dissertation has simply disappeared from Columbia Universities archives. In July, in response to a flurry of requests to review Obama’s senior thesis at the Ivy League school, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News “We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University.”

    * The senator has not agreed to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.

    * Jim Geraghty of the National Review has written extensively about Obama’s unwillingness to release records related to clients he represented while he was an attorney with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Gallard. Obama was required to list his clients during his years in the Illinois senate. “Obama listed every client of the firm,” Geraghty reported, making it impossible to discern which clients he represented.

    * Obama has never released records from his time at Harvard Law School.

    * Obama also has not disclosed the names of small donors giving $200 or less to his campaign. An exception to the finance-reporting laws exempts the campaign from reporting those who donate less than $200, but that law never envisioned the more than $300 million that has been raised by Obama in small amounts. The Republican National Committee has released its small donors, as well as McCain’s, on a public database.

    On several occasions, the Obama campaign has offered to provide additional information to reporters if they have specific questions or issues. And in some cases, it has done so.

    When Internet rumors began to fly that perhaps Obama was born outside the United States, for example, the campaign released images of a birth certificate that verified his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii. When that led to suggestions the birth certificate had been altered, the campaign again responded, allowing reporters to examine the actual birth certificate, complete with raised seal. (In late July, according to FactCheck.org, a researcher uncovered an announcement of Obama’s birth in the August 13, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser).

    Such instances of cooperation pale, however, compared to the many unanswered questions surrounding Obama, such as the financing of his education, and requests for the complete release of all donors to his campaign.

    Of course, candidates are often reticent to disclose any information that opposition researchers could use against them.

    But Politico.com notes that the Obama’s failure to share documents is “part of his campaign’s broader pattern of rarely volunteering information or documents about the candidate, even when relatively innocuous.”

    The hue and cry from the media for disclosure usually forces candidates to release sought after documents. But the press has largely acquiesced to Obama’s stonewalling.

  • Idunn

    Great article, Dija. Thanks for posting that.

  • djia

    NBC and MSNBC Join ACORN, Other Left-wing Groups In Assuring ‘Election Protection

    By Tim Graham
    October 23, 2008 – 08:11 ET

    Amanda Carpenter at Townhall brings our attention to something amazing: NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.” Is that a bad joke, working with ACORN on ballot integrity? An NBC press release on Tuesday announced:

    “With less than 14 days before Election Day, NBC News and Election Protection will be joining forces to help voters ensure that their vote will count. The news leader and the nation’s largest nonpartisan voter protection coalition will work together to promote the 1-866-OUR-VOTE Hotline and http://www.866ourvote.org website so that voters can receive live assistance if they encounter problems, and access the information before they head to the polls now through Election Day.”

    to continue reading:
    newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/23/nbc-msnbc-join-acorn-other-left-wing-groups-assuring-election-protection

  • NewMexicoFan

    Idunn

    I could not agree more. There is an old analogy.

    You give people fish, and you feed them, but if you teach them how to fish, they feed themselves.

    When you teach them to feed themselves, you endow people with the pride and knowledge to survive. The same is true in under developed countries. You can send food, or you can send money for a cow and a tractor, or give them a well. The second is the best long term solution.

    How much better for people to feel as though they earned their way, rather then been part of an allotment.

    I believe in making people strong. You want AA or women to success, you make sure their schools are equal or the best. If you want the best President of the US, then you vet them equally and let the voters decide. The only people vetted here have been McCain, Palin, and HRC.

  • djia

    Pew: McCain Gets Far More Negative Coverage From Media
    By Warner Todd Huston | October 23, 2008 – 02:25

    As if we didn’t know already by the evidence of the left-wing media establishment’s work, Pew Research unveiled a new survey that showed that John McCain has been on the receiving end of “heavily unfavorable” coverage. In fact, according to Pew, McCain’s media coverage has become more negative over time with unfavorable stories about him outweighing favorable ones “by a factor of more than three-to-one.” Pew finds that McCain’s negative stories are the highest from among all four major candidates.

    First of all, we should remember that the Pew survey was drawn from news coverage — opinion pieces were not included. So, if we were to add all the opinion editorials emanating from the Old Media, the unfavorables for McCain and Palin would soar to unprecedented heights. But, Op-Eds aside and with the fact that we are talking “news,” it is still amazing to note the highly negative tone leveled at McCain.

    newsbusters.org/

  • Idunn

    The same is true in under developed countries. You can send food, or you can send money for a cow and a tractor, or give them a well. The second is the best long term solution.

    Absolutely.

  • djia

    newsbusters.org

    TV Station Political Analyst Dismisses Then Takes Seriously Questions About Obama Birth Certificate
    By P.J. Gladnick
    October 23, 2008 – 00:19 ET

    The political analyst of West Palm Beach TV station WPTV seems to have a split personality about the controversy currently raging on the Web over the authenticity Barack Obama’s birth certificate. First he seems to dismiss the questions about that birth certificate as some sort of nutty conspiracy theory: “I think it’s conspiracy theories run amuck,” says WPTV political analyst Dr. Robert Watson. “The next thing we’re going to hear is Barack Obama was at Roswell.”

    This was his first reaction to that Obama birth certificate controversy as reported by WPTV:

    Nonetheless an attorney in Philadelphia, Philip Berg, filed a lawsuit claiming Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian man. Berg says Obama failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18.

    Obama has attempted to silence any critics by producing a birth certificate from Hawaii, proving he was born there in 1961. Berg however is demanding an original, and not a copy from the Obama camp.

    Obama’s team filed a motion to dismiss Berg’s lawsuit, but they also made a motion to block discovery.

    Brian Smith is a West Palm Beach attorney registered as an Independent, that has wrote about this issue from a legal standpoint on his blog.

    “The Obama camp and Democratic National Committee responded to the lawsuit by filing a motion to dismiss, but they never responded to the request for admissions.”

    Berg is now arguing because Obama’s camp is refusing to produce an original birth certificate copy in discovery, his allegations are essentially true.

    “Wednesday he filed a motion for summary judgment, or a judgment in his favor, as a matter of law, because they essentially admitted those allegations. That from a legal perspective is huge,” says Smith.

    This is the third lawsuit that’s been filed about Obama’s citizenship, meaning the courts will have to decide how to move forward. A Washington man, Steven Marquis, is suing the Washington Secretary of State, demanding that he verify Obama’s citizenship status before the election.

    In Honolulu, Andy Martin filed a lawsuit on October 17th, to get the Hawaiin Department of Health to release Obama’s birth certificates. Martin also wants to see an original birth certificate, and not a ‘copy.’

    Smith says under Hawaiin law birth certificates are considered private.

    Meanwhile, Judge R. Barclay Surrick is hearing Berg’s case in Pennsylvania. The suit was filed on August 21st, but the judge has not made any ruling.

    What is certain is that this issue doesn’t seem to be going away.

    On-line it has a rabid and contentious following from both sides.

    Even in the real world, Dr. Watson tells us whenever he speaks publicly, the issue always pops up.

    So Dr. Watson you think this controversy is silly, right? Wrong:

    “At this point I think Obama should answer the question. In politics, perception is reality and as long as these e-mails are running wild with conspiracy theories, I think he needs to address it,” says Watson.

    Silly or serious? Make up your mind one way or another, Dr. Watson. Right now you seem to be trying to have it both ways.

  • ShortTermer

    Idunn, a very thoughtful post above. I can tell you a personal story of how I came to believe the way I do about affirmative action. I started colledge in my mid twenties as a divorced mom of two children. I worked hard to make excellent grades and graduated in the top 10% of my graduating class, no easy feat for someone who dropped out of high school at the beginning of 10th grade.
    I was trained extremely well in my field. I applied for a position at the model program at my alma mater. All those of us who were exemplary students and performers through hard work, dedication, and through taking the learning and training experience very very seriously were ‘passed over’ because the Affirmative Action laws ‘required’ hiring a black, and specifically a black female. This black female was not the brightest bulb in the pack by a long shot, we evidenced this this first hand by her performances in classes. She got the prestigious position that many of us better qualified ‘whites’ applied for. Well, needless to say that did not last toooo long, as her incompetence shined like a bright light. I was offered another job in the area because the person who hired me had seen me duirng my training and recognized that my qualifications, compassion, and experience made me well suited for that position. I was heartbroken when I had to leave that position because of the pending death of my father back home. We had wondered who they would get to replace me, as I had performed extremely well. When the new person came through the door, it was this black female who had taken the previous position because of a quota. Needless, to say we all jumped on the ones who ‘gave’ her the job and asked them how in the world they chose her over all those others who were better qualified, had been successful, and would have done well in the position. The answer, in unison, was that she was a black female. Enough said.
    Now, please remember that my upbringing was to be the best you can be at whatever job you hold, even if you are a janitor – be the best d@mned janitor possible. We were taught pride in our work, to prepare ourselves for the job, ask for no handouts and accept no handouts, and to be personally reponsibile for ourselves and our families. I can hear it now from my Daddy and Grandaddy, ‘Any man worth his salt…….” Therefore, it was ingrained in me that, ‘Any woman worth her salt would not….” So, my belief that ‘Any[person] worth his/her salt, would not ‘take’ a job that was ‘given’ based on ANYTHING other than competence, experience, and training. And especially would not let themselves rise on the shoulders of others more competent, experience, and trained. I often wondered, but really did not want to know, how that black female did in the position I vacated.
    I was a child in the 50’s and felt so bad that blacks had to sit in the balcony and use separate water fountains, but I never dreamed that reverse discrimination would be visited on me, who was innocent of any and all racism. After I learned my heritage, I realized that the Native Americans [as a descendant of the Cherokee and Creeks] were treated as badly if not worse than the AA’s in my own country. And they never were given the corrective steps to eliminating the racism against them – they were put on reservations or mascacred and were ASSIMILATED into the white man’s world. They were measured by the drops of their blood as to whether the government would even recognize their native heritage, and have systemically been diluted by the blood of the whites. My worry about the AA’s is that the process of their heritage is being diluted and will before too many years will be ASSIMILATED into oblivion. I fully believe that we must give children roots and wings, but how can they discover their roots if the government has systemically erased much of their heritage. Okay, off my soapbox now.

  • rgb44hrc

    djia Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 10:38 am

    TV Station Political Analyst Dismisses Then Takes Seriously Questions About Obama Birth Certificate
    By P.J. Gladnick

    (snip)
    Smith says under Hawaiin law birth certificates are considered private.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I believe in one’s right to privacy.

    Politicians work for the public have to expect prying into their lives, as they are asking us to entrust them with governance and the creation and enforcement of laws.

    Furthermore, those seeking the highest office in the US, currently deemed “the most important position in the world”, must subject themselves to far greater scrutiny.

    Oblubber is asking for everything and offering nothing, except empty promises.

    The dude be bad.

  • henry

    This morning I mistakenly left the tv on when I went into another room and at least three times a heard the same waffles ad. I usually mute the tv as soon as he appears so this is the first I’d heard in awhile. I was stunned in the ad he was giving parental advice. It’s going to get very creepy if he is elected.

  • djia

    LOL! got this in an email from my bosses wife today, thought i would pass it along :D

    Everyone concentrates on the problems we’re having in this country lately: illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, alligators attacking people in Florida . ..

    Not me. I concentrate on solutions for the problems. It’s a win-win situation.

    + Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

    + Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

    + Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.

    Any other problems you would like for me to solve today ?

  • wbboei

    Politicians work for the public have to expect prying into their lives, as they are asking us to entrust them with governance and the creation and enforcement of laws.

    Furthermore, those seeking the highest office in the US, currently deemed “the most important position in the world”, must subject themselves to far greater scrutiny
    —————————————–
    This analysis is pathetic.

    The issue here is NOT PRIVACY!

    The issue is not greater scrutiny!!

    The issue is ELIBILITY!!!

    As in legal eligibility to be president!!!!

    And to faithfully execute the laws per Article 2.

    What do you think would happen if the next time a cop stops me and asks to see my license and I say I cannot show it to you because I consider it to be private. Will he say ok sorry I asked it was never my intent to invade your privacy and please drive safely? Or will he say you are not eligible to drive and arrest me.

    Hope, change, revolution.

  • djia

    :D :D :D :D :D

    For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected
    mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some BIG
    bucks.
    Watch for these consolidations in 2008:

    1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W. R.
    Grace Co. Will merge and become: Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.

    2.) PolygramRecords, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and
    become: Poly, Warner Cracker.

    3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become: MMMGood.

    4.) Zippo Manufacturing, AudiMotors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will
    merge and become: ZipAudiDoDa

    5.) FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.

    6.) Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become:
    Fairwell Honeychild.

    7.) Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.

    8.) Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will
    become: Knott NOW!

    And finally….

    9.) Victoria ’s Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new
    name: TittyTittyBangBang

    OH, YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO FORWARD THIS ONE!

  • wbboei

    + Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

    + Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

    + Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.
    ——————————————
    + Swimming privileges for Bambi/

  • Idunn

    Thoughtful post, Short Termer. :)

    I was a child in the 50’s and felt so bad that blacks had to sit in the balcony and use separate water fountains, but I never dreamed that reverse discrimination would be visited on me,

    My mother grew up during this period of history, and she’s shared many valuable stories with me regarding her experiences. One time, after sitting at the kitchen table listening to her stories, I asked her how on earth she ever came away from all that without hating white people. She said she just learned early on that some whites had hatred in their hearts, some were just blind, some were victims themselves and lashed out out of anger , and many were allies and friends. If she hated every white person based on their skin color…how was she any better than those who did her that way? That always stuck with me.

    Even here, I know that there are probably some folks who have prejudices (hell, I still think no white person can dance!)…but that isn’t the same as being a racist. Prejudices simply mean that view one another based on stereotypes rather than seeing the individual. But how the hell can you enlighten people about who you are when you jump on every little thing they ask or say? Eventually, they’ll stop talking TO you and start talking AT you, and then…back to square one.

  • Idunn

    And I think that’s true in the women’s movement as well, come to think of it. Often, we who are pro-choice view women who are pro-life as the enemy. They can’t possibly care about women, right? But that isn’t how I see it… I see women who care passionately about something, just as I care passionately about something, except the “somethings” are polar opposites. Doesn’t make either of us bad people…and neither stance gives us some sort of badge as a woman, you know?

  • wbboei

    NBC and MSNBC Join ACORN, Other Left-wing Groups In Assuring ‘Election Protection
    ————————————–
    Only a fool would watch these partisan whores any more. They are kaput. A fifth column if there ever was one.

  • djia

    + Swimming privileges for Bambi/

    awwww don’t leave out meesh elle , axelrove, rev wrong, rev pfleger, Ayers/dorne et all ;)

  • djia

    Sara Palin being interviewed by Hannity tonight on H&C

  • wbboei

    This was concerning the Haditha marines, and he held a press conference and stated that “they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

    He made this statement before any investigation was done, put these marines through hell, used it for political purposes against Bush, and they were all acquitted, they were innocent. One is now sueing Murtha for defamation
    ——————————————
    thanks lin. I had forgotten about this. This is bad stuff. Very bad. Especially for a senior field grade officer in the Marine Corps. In fact, it is deplorable.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Idunn

    I grew up in a small town, and always went to an integrated school. Our Class President was AA, our sports were mixed, however, they lived in their section of town.

    At a point, they AAs wanted to live anywhere they could afford. That caused a small raised eyebrow, but actually went pretty smoothly. I myself caught myself saying so and so is pretty for an AA, or that is a pretty AA. When I realized what I was saying, I knew that was wrong, and I stopped myself, and the others around me.

    Right now I fight certain sexual issue with my family. I have a male in my family that when he gets upset with a female on the phone (usually he is trying to solve a problem), he calls her sweetie. When I hear these conversations start, I stand at the desk, and stop him. The other day, he let one slip, and he said, sorry, I should have not said that as it appears sexists, as I have someone standing next to me letting me know it is a sexual slam. The young girl on the phone said Thank You.

    Racism and Sexism is something we fight in ourselves, in others, in our country, and the world. I don’t think this battle will ever be over, but if we take it on as a personnel issue, we become the army. When the army stands there and lets people know it is wrong, changes happen.

  • wbboei

    NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.”
    ——————————————–
    Since ACORN is the principle purveyor of election fraud in this election, and has shown no ability or willingness to address the issue in the past, it is like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop. NBC and MSNBC think this is a way to legitimatize their fraud and anesticize the public. Before that happens FOX should do a major expose if they have not done so already. ACORN is a corrupt organization. Bambi tried to deny his association, and since that has not worked his media whores are trying to say it is really ok. The one thing ACORN, NBC and MSNBC all have in common is a commitment to steal our democracy, by depriving people of the truth and corrupting the vote.

  • JanH

    It is to be hoped that NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and CBS have to lowest viewer ratings of all on election day. Let them talk to themselves until they are hoarse/broken records.

  • rgb44hrc

    henry Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am
    This morning I mistakenly left the tv on when I went into another room and at least three times a heard the same waffles ad. I usually mute the tv as soon as he appears so this is the first I’d heard in awhile. I was stunned in the ad he was giving parental advice. It’s going to get very creepy if he is elected.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    “Parental advice” is supposed to be his “Man-up to your responsibilities, Brothers” message. It is supposed to be his Sista Souljah moment. Besides, parental responsibility is another apple-pie and motherhood no lose type cause.

    “Hi, I’m Barack Obama, and I approve this message. Everyone should be taking vitamins. I’m pro-vitamin. My opponent has remained silent on the Vitamin Issue. Be clear that as President, everyone, including children, mothers, the needy, those with disabilities, will be encouraged to use vitamins. Now, actually having the government provide vitamins would be extremely expensive, so at this point, my stance is that we will look into what can be done, because I FEEL STRONGLY that vitamins are good for you, good for me, good for America.”

  • ShortTermer

    JanH, exactly let them talk to themselves and hold the lowest viewer ratings ever – I think our boycott of NBC, NYT, CNN, and MSNBC have worked well so far – let’s continue.
    I look forward to the Neilsen ratings the way I used to the polls way back when in the primary – and have learned a lot about ratings.

  • rgb44hrc

    wbboei Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 am
    NBC and MSNBC are working with ACORN and other left-wing interest groups in a “nonpartisan” effort at “Election Protection.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I can just see it, Brian Williams driving around looking for people for McCain signs. “Hey, let’s alert the authorities that a band of hooligans appear bent on voter suppression and intimidation”.

    “Hey, there’s ACORN, doing the charitable good work of driving around voters to get them to the polls, and putting them back in the bus to drive to vote somewhere else. It warms the heart to see Democracy In Action”.

  • JanH

    That ACORN is being allowed to even venture further into this mess is ridiculous. Their functions should be frozen and they should be banned from having anything to do with this election or any other once and for all.

    People should bombard the network about the criminality of this unholy marriage!

  • bluegirl

    Is this an elitist blog? Does one have to have a college degree to be accepted here? Just wondering.

  • rgb44hrc

    bluegirl Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    Is this an elitist blog? Does one have to have a college degree to be accepted here? Just wondering.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Ummm, no. We have all sorts here. Regular workin’ folks. College grads. Latte-sipping smart people using big words. Down to earth types. Some RANTERS. .(…..some lurkers). The cordial. The Angry.

    If you want true elitism, HuffPost is right around the corner. I like mesclun just as much as they do, but they actually think they are better than others. For me, it’s just much tastier and healthy than iceberg.

  • JanH

    bluegirl,

    Nothing further from the truth. We come from all walks of life and eagerly absorb thoughts, opinions and expertise from all we encounter. The more the merrier! :)

  • NewMexicoFan

    bluegirl

    Just wondering why you have asked the question?

  • pm317

    Savagepolitics has an interesting article and to pique your curiosity: Eight Belles, Big Brown, Da’ Tara…

    {Idunn, your mom sounds like a very special lady. Wish I could meet many of you on this board and make friends in person.}

  • shenanigans

    Welcome, Bluegirl.

  • djia

    Bluegirl

    what ever gave you that impression?? LOL!

    This is the most friendly blog you could ever encounter…….sure we have a mix of people in many different professions
    some with fancy degree’s and some with out any (last one would be me :D )

    we have city folk and country folk (again the last one would be me :D )

    we have many here who have followed politics for generations an to people like me who have only just begun with this election

    those who know help those who don’t (again me) with any hesitation or snobish attitudes, I am very comfortable to let it be known here that i am a newbie in comparison to others here and have never ever felt like I was looked down upon for a second

    This blog has become “family” “friends” and it always welcomes new members … you must be new here so welcome! :D

    one other thing about this blog…..

    we have no time for obamabots that purely only wish to disrupt and spew garbage, but i am positive we would welcome one who wished to maturely discuss respectfully with reason the differing view points. BUT….. i doubt that anyone here could be persuaded to drink the obama kool ade but would welcome the opportunity to d’compress a bot…….I hear those kool ade DT’s are the worst ! :D

  • djia

    that should be with out hesitation or snobish attitudes……..sorry

  • wbboei

    Dija, I think it was you who posted the Tom Sowell article above. Thank you. I met him at a Hillsdale College event years ago, and he signed six of his books for me. He is the smartest person I have ever met, but is so down to earth with a marvelous sense of humor. A great scholar and a great human being. The clarity of his thinking is a wonderful thing to behold. I can only imagine what he would say to that pundit who sees the birth certificate as a privacy issue. If Barack was a constitutional whatever he was, he wasnt a very good one.

  • Idunn

    Does one have to have a college degree to be accepted here?

    Well, my college degree doesn’t really help me in my job…which I affectionately call “raggedy farm wife”. ;)

    But getting serious for a second here… there are very few people I reject out of hand. Don’t have any use for liars, thieves , hate mongers, or people prone to physical violence. Other than that, though…I love talking to people from all walks of life. :)

  • rgb44hrc

    NewMexicoFan Says:

    bluegirl
    Just wondering why you have asked the question?
    &&&&&&

    Maybe I used one of those five dollar words or expressions: post-Dada neo-pointilism.

    Or my post from earlier this moth: “I would be remiss if I did not elucidate how Obama juxtaposes the syllolgistic and vituperative in exhorting the frenzied masses into abhorrent, misogynistic displays.”

    Dammit, sometimes I just can’t help myself.

  • Idunn

    All I heard was:

    Wah wah wah wahwahwah wah wah wah.

    :P

  • shenanigans

    rgb translation:

    Obama yells “F*ck”

    The crowd replies “the b*tch!”

  • pm317

    rgb, stop showing off. we know you’re already a musical connoisseur. :)

    bluegirl, this is not an elitist blog. If it was we would all be voting for Obama.

  • JanH

    LMAO!!! “If it was we would all be voting for Obama.” How true! ;)

  • wbboei

    Let us hope that the more nbc an msnbc do their little election theater night nobody will come to see it.

    Theres no business
    Like show business
    Like no business I know . .

    Even with a turkey
    That you know will fold
    Youll soon be standing
    Out in the cold

    Let us hope closing night for them comes sooner rather than later.

  • Idunn

    Interesting article posted on RBO about Oliar and The New Party:

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/loudon-documentary-evidence-obama-was-new-party-member/

  • moononpluto

    Well this is very interesting, for all the hype about new voters

    Gallup finds no increase in people intending to vote for the first time in 2008 from 2004. If this is correct, Obama’s fucked. This is very bad news for Obama.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111331/Increase-Proportion-FirstTime-Voters.aspx

    Gallup finds 13% of registered voters saying they will vote for president for the first time in 2008. That matches the figure Gallup found in its final 2004 pre-election poll.

    The current data are based on interviews with more than 2,700 registered voters as part of Oct. 17-19 Gallup Poll Daily tracking. Gallup asked these voters a question it had asked in its 2004 election polling: whether this would be the first time they had voted in a presidential election, or whether they had voted for president before. Despite much discussion of the possibility of large numbers of new voters in 2008, the percentage of “first time” voters in Gallup polling this election cycle is no higher than it was at approximately the same time in 2004.

    The estimate of first-time voters is slightly lower, 11%, using Gallup’s expanded likely voter model. Under this model, Americans who are registered to vote, who say they plan to vote, who indicate they have given “quite a lot” of thought to the election, and who rate their chances of voting as a “9″ or “10″ on a 10-point scale are deemed likely to vote. Gallup’s traditional likely voter model takes into account past voting behavior as well as current voting intentions, but because it adjusts for voters who were too young to vote in past elections, it still estimates that 8% of likely voters will be voting for the first time.

  • confloyd

    Yahoo news reporting that McCain/Obama tied for the rural vote=BullS*&T. There is not one Obama sign in any rural area that I drive through. Hillary won the rural vote hands down and its going to McCain/Palin. Whatever happened to honesty in reporting?? Gone just like gasoline for one dollar!

  • Idunn

    You know, I really don’t give a rats ass if Obama is a socialist or a marxist…I just want to know why the hell he’s so friggin’ devious about it. Present yourself honestly, Oliar, so we voters can make a judgement, that’s all I want.

  • birdgal

    ACORN and NBC joining forces is abhorrent. Why, oh why, are they giving credence to an organization rampant with fraud? Nevermind, stupid question.

    rgb44hrc Says: ROFL! If I hadn’t seen more of your postings, and I read that one, I would say, “Get over yourself.”

    Bluegirl: People on this blog have been very friendly, but most of us do not like bots.

  • moononpluto

    confloyd, thats bull, Obama could barely scrape 25% of rural voters anywhere especially states Hillary wiped him out in, if you think they suddenly going for Obama now, I have an igloo to sell you all in florida.

  • moononpluto

    Funny Gallup also saying it has no evidence that young voters are anxious to turnout, in other words they won’t.

  • Lin67

    I am actually listening to Rush Limbaugh and he brought up a little while ago BO saying he’s rushing to Hawaii to be with his dieing grandmother, several days ago, so if she is so sick why is he still here???? And then he said I’ve been laying low on this, but this birth certificate thing is gaining traction out there, so now he is wondering if the trip to Hawaii has more to do with the birth certificate than a dieing grandmother. He also says even if it is true do you really think it will change anything??? So apparantly even if its true he doesn’t think it will mean anything.

  • djia

    wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Dija, I think it was you who posted the Tom Sowell article above.
    **********

    glad you liked it, he does seem like a very intelligent man…..much like yourself.

    I have appreciated all that you have written for us here and look forward to much more from you :D

  • pm317

    A quiz: Who said this?

    “And I was lucky to have a lot of support at home, too. Now among the many things that I owe my parents is one simple lesson, and that was this is America and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity. The belief in equal opportunity is not just the cause of feminists, it’s the creed of our country-equal opportunity. And if I’m given the honor of serving you in the White House, I intend to advance that creed in our own nation and beyond because across the world, there are still places where women are subjugated and persecuted as they were in Afghanistan, places where they’re bullied and brutalized and murdered in honor killings, places where women are sold like commodities in the nightmare world of the sex trade, and places where baby girls are unwelcome as a matter of state policy and their mothers are forced to have abortions. Now no one person, no one leader, can bring an end to all of those ills, to all of the injustices inflicted upon women, but I can promise you this, if I am elected, these women, too, will have an advocate and a defender in the 47th vice president of the United States.”

  • wbboei

    He also says even if it is true do you really think it will change anything??? So apparantly even if its true he doesn’t think it will mean anything
    —————————————-
    That is the measure of his delusion, or his lack of expertise in Constitututional Law.

  • independent2008

    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?

  • independent2008
    I don’t buy it just like I am not buying any of the polls out there every single one of them have to be taken with a grain of salt.

  • moononpluto

    independent, its not true, its bull, they want to try and tell other puma’s that some have caved but we have not, we will take them down.

  • Lin67

    moononpluto Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    Well this is very interesting, for all the hype about new voters

    Gallup finds no increase in people intending to vote for the first time in 2008 from 2004. If this is correct, Obama’s fucked. This is very bad news for Obama.

    =====
    Well I have a confession to make. I am 41 years old, and I have never voted in my life. I always had an opinion, but I always lived in either a solid red or solid blue state (ks, and DC), and so I was lazy and didn’t bother, my one vote wasn’t going to make any difference to my state. But this year we are in FL, and I will be voting for the first time in my life. For McCain.

  • Lin67

    independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    ===
    They made that same claim what was it last week or the week before? And the same time this lady on tv was saying this there was that fund raiser in NY attended by Palin and all the donors where PUMAs, Gretta’s husband was one of them. So I would say no, they haven’t. Also don’t forget that rally with Palin and all the big name women standing behind her, former HRC supporters coming out for McCain/Palin. Its a head game.

  • rgb44hrc

    moononpluto Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
    Funny Gallup also saying it has no evidence that young voters are anxious to turnout, in other words they won’t.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Young voters’ excuses:

    The thrill is so “last month”.

    “There’s a Dave Matthews concert that we’re driving to Election Day”.

    “The candidates still haven’t discussed the important issues: BonJovi or Springsteen?”

    “Woh, the election was on Tuesday?”

    “Voting is important: I call in my favorite on American Idol multiple times”.

    “Bah-Rock-The-Vote O-Bah-ma…the Messiah…take the pink pills”.

  • wbboei

    pm: chelsie clinton 12 years from now? She saw those things when she travelled abroad with her mother, and I am sure they made an impression. I know she said no to Teddy on becoming a politician, but things change.

    I hope when Teddy slips the mortal coil, they bury him where he should have died trying to save that young woman’s life instead of saving his own hide and using his family power and influence to escape prosecution–Lest we forget.

  • moononpluto

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24540399-5009760,00.html

    How scared shitless would you be if you saw a spider this big catch a bird in the garden and then started to eat it, I was in Australia this year and I saw one humungous thing bigger than a dinner plate, I ran.

  • rgb44hrc

    Lin67 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
    independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Ummm, if it was 88%, Obama WOULD have a real 10% lead over JM. There are more Dems. But more Dems are defecting than Repubs.

    I know. I interviewed 240,000,000 Americans last week.

  • wbboei

    independent2008 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    —————————————-
    Yea independent. But I heard it was 187%. Try to relax.

  • NewMexicoFan

    The formula for correctly polling people for this election has to be so complicated at this point, even Einstein could not figure it out.

    Einstein would probably be smart enought not to do it.

  • NewMexicoFan

    enought=enough

    See I cannot even spell, so all are welcome here.

  • independent2008

    Thanks you all for making me feel better. -) Poll numbers always seem to freak me out . I thought that a few may have caved in since the Clintons had stepped up their game stumping for Obama.

    I am still mad that Obama hasn’t made any apology to us at all since it was he who said that he could get all of Clinton’s people. I had no problem whatsoever voting for McCain a week ago.

    Ummm, if it was 88%, Obama WOULD have a real 10% lead over JM. There are more Dems. But more Dems are defecting than Repubs.

    I know. I interviewed 240,000,000 Americans last week.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    Thanks for the news rgb44rc. I can relax a little better now! :-)

  • wbboei

    moononpluto Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24540399-5009760,00.html

    How scared shitless would you be if you saw a spider this big catch a bird in the garden and then started to eat it, I was in Australia this year and I saw one humungous thing bigger than a dinner plate, I ran.
    —————————————
    weird.

  • NewMexicoFan

    You know what I don’t understand is how progressive state, or they like to think they are progressive, like CA, does not have early voting?

    Don’t get me wrong, I love CA, but I alway thought with there liberal attitude, they would have invented Early Voting.

  • wbboei

    How scared shitless would you be if you saw a spider this big catch a bird in the garden and then started to eat it, I was in Australia this year and I saw one humungous thing bigger than a dinner plate, I ran.
    —————————————
    weird.
    —————————
    was the spider you saw poisonous? I do not think taranatulas are, but that does not mean I am ready to adopt one. Besides, Michelle is spoken for.

  • Point about the polls being biased. In 2004 Bush won Virginia by about 260,000 votes (and lets face it it really wasn’t very popular back then either) and cnn saying Obama up by 10%. So they are trying to make us believe that there has been a swing of 579,000 votes? Democrats will gain 290,000 votes over 2004. I find that very hard to believe, Virginia is for Lovers not idiots!

  • henry

    rgb44hrc
    love the vitamin analogy. I thought I was hearing things as he gave his instructions to parents. But then it played twice over the next half hour.
    As the ad is running in Western PA I guess he thinks us rednecks just deposit the little ones in front of the tube. I found it insulting.

  • jbstonesfan

    All we can really pray/hope for is that Nov 4th is similar to the great day in New Hampshire when people chose substance over form…

  • wbboei

    Well I have a confession to make. I am 41 years old, and I have never voted in my life. I always had an opinion, but I always lived in either a solid red or solid blue state (ks, and DC), and so I was lazy and didn’t bother, my one vote wasn’t going to make any difference to my state. But this year we are in FL, and I will be voting for the first time in my life. For McCain.
    —————————————-
    Lin: given your knowledge of politics and commitment to this blog I find it astonishing that you did not vote before. I would have guessed that wild horses could not have kept you away.

  • henry

    Anybody else get any email from justsaynodeal today? I did and I have never been there. Not a problem just curious.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Catch you all later.

  • confloyd

    Does anyone think that the republicans are waiting until the last few days to drop the info on Obama and thats why he wants everyone to early vote?

  • magic007

    URGENT!!!!!!!!!!URGENT!!!!!!!!!

    Please sign in to obamacrimes.com ASAP..Please sign in for the petition………..

    Please do it now………..

  • pm317

    wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    pm: chelsie clinton 12 years from now? She saw those things when she travelled abroad with her mother, and I am sure they made an impression. I know she said no to Teddy on becoming a politician, but things change.
    —————————-

    wbboei, That was from palin’s speech in NV, must see full speech at RD. This was perhaps the most poignant part of that speech delivered strongly with confidence.

    I do think Chelsea Clinton will get into politics. It is hard to stay away with such illustrious parents and having seen from up close how much good you can do if you have the power. Many seem to stay away not because they don’t have the good intentions or the confidence or the strength but because they don’t know where to start. But with a political offspring like Chelsea they already have a foot in the door if they have the inclination.

  • I wish Nader would be on TV more because there are a lot of democrats who are votring for Obama not because they like him, but because they can not find it in themselves to vote for a republican. Giving them another choice would siphon votes from Obama. Nader appears to hurt Obama more than Barr hurts McCain.
    Here are latest polls with Nader and Barr in the mix

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html

  • rgb44hrc

    rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    I wish Nader would be on TV more because there are a lot of democrats who are votring for Obama not because they like him, but because they can not find it in themselves to vote for a republican. Giving them another choice would siphon votes from Obama. Nader appears to hurt Obama more than Barr hurts McCain.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Nader is a known quantity.

    Barr is a known nut.

  • wbboei

    pm: I thought Palin initially, but got tricked by the 47th vice president. If I had thought back to the Nixon era where there was Agnew and then Ford, I would have known we have had more vice presidents than presidents and stuck with my original surmise. Big Media keeps speeches like these under wraps because they run counter to the fraudulent narrative they are trying to promote.

  • turndownobama-com

    independent2008 Says:
    I heard from a my tv in another room this morning that 88% of Hillary supporters are now backing Obama. “They have come home”. I wonder if this is true? Anyone heard anything differently?
    =======

    The media loves that story, they’ve been runing it ever since June. They just change the dates.

    As of near the conventions (and just after???) the percents were still the same as all summer of hil’s: half for Obama, 1/4 for McCain, 1/4 staying home. Pew and anoher spelled it out: Obama had made “No progress”.

    I think what happens is that some of the polls disregard the stayhomes, which gives a higher percent for Obama. Also there aren’t as many Democrats as before — many Hil’s left the party in protest, so it may be that only the dregs, er, the Obama supporters are left.

    I’ve got a diary with more detail at clintondems.com

  • djia

    magic
    i went to obamacrimes and did not see a link to a petition…. then i checked out the comment area and found this

    written by Kevin Powell, October 23, 2008
    Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing – Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut

    Georgia voters can sign the Georgia ‘Plaintiff Class’ petition here:
    http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/

    Return signed petitions to:
    patriot4all@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

    Need as many signed petitions as possible before hearing on Friday Oct 24. Let’s make it happen.

    ***************

    Is this what you posted about???

  • turndownobama-com

    bluegirl,

    Elitist? Well, if a a blog were elitist, would they admit it? Try asking that at TPM or The Atlantic or whatever. :-)

    I can’t get the Archives to work, can anyone? Maybe becasue I have scripts turned off?

  • bluegirl

    The reason I asked was that every time I come in here some one is talking about their college education. I know alot of people with college educations that never even mention them in normal conversations. I guess I was feeling a bit under educated ( being reminded of everyone elses education, and my lack thereof, lol) and thought that maybe you really didn’t want anyone without a college education here, or that maybe someone without one, just didn’t measure up to those that do have one.

    Maybe I’m just feeling a bit put out by hearing everyday on TV that we Pennsylvanians are just bitter, redneck racists. Never mind the fact that most of us aren’t.

  • turndownobama-com

    rjk,

    I agaree taht informing voters about third parties is a good thing. Some are too strong anti-McCain but when they hear about McKinney (black, anti-war) it’s news to them and they consider her. Even if they just get indecisive and don’t make ti to the polls, that’s one less vote for Obama. (Well, one-half less. Better than votng for him.)

  • Lin67

    rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    Point about the polls being biased. In 2004 Bush won Virginia by about 260,000 votes (and lets face it it really wasn’t very popular back then either) and cnn saying Obama up by 10%. So they are trying to make us believe that there has been a swing of 579,000 votes? Democrats will gain 290,000 votes over 2004. I find that very hard to believe, Virginia is for Lovers not idiots!
    ====
    What they try to say (and they tried the same thing in 2004) is that there are enough new people living in VA right next to DC, and DC is very liberal. And so they assume that the increased population due to DC will be liberal. But in the 2004 election there were still more republicans vote in VA than democrats. But when they poll they really oversample Dems, way more than voted in 2004, so you have to believe that that many new dems have moved to the DC area since 2004.

  • basil9

    1.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Eleven
    Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008

    McCain has cut into Obama’s lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday. The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead among Catholics.
    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536

  • clintondem99

    The polls are closing:

    PRINCETON, NJ — Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows Barack Obama running ahead of John McCain among likely voters — 50% to 46% using the “traditional” model Gallup has employed in past elections, and 51% to 45% using an “expanded” model that takes into account possibly greater turnout by new or infrequent voters.

    So far Obama has not won a race where he did not lead by 10% before polling.

  • djia

    wbbeoi

    please take a look at this and tell us what you think?

    docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/

  • bluegirl

    Birdgal, I am not a bot.

  • wbboei

    bluegirl: the best put down to educated snobs I ever heard happened during a legisative forum in east Texas, when a cattlewoman who was one of the leading lights said their kids were doing just fine until they sent they away to college and educated the common sense out of them.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Bluegirl

    I have been smart ever since I was born. My IQ did not change between graduating from High School and the days I got my advanced degress. I had and earned a great piece of paper, but I was raised that you respect, and listen to everyone.

    I am reminded of a college story where they were making 99% pure Ivory Soap. They stated getting brown flakes in it. They brought in the process experts, but did not ask the workers.

    If they had asked they workers they would have found out someone was spitting tobacco in the mix.

    An organization is only as smart as its weakest link, and that link can be a highly educated CEO who is unwilling to admit that he is wrong or take advice from the average person.

    Welcome to the group. Sheep skins not required here.

  • turndownobama-com

    bluegirl Says:
    The reason I asked was that every time I come in here some one is talking about their college education. I know alot of people with college educations that never even mention them in normal conversations.
    =======

    Now those are teh REAL elitists! They just assume that Everybody has a doctorate. :-)

    Where it’s not assumed, then we’re not elitist. :- Must be cooincidence, it doesn’t come up that often. Of course when one person mentiosn theirs then others chime in too.

    I got half way through college, mostly in a very local church collage. (My bad seplling is typos though, I DO know the difference. I just don’t BOTHER, my keyborad isn’t great for backspacing etc.)

    This is the most diverse political blog I know. In backgrounds and in posting styles.

  • JanH

    bluegirl,

    No worries! I love your posts!

  • rgb44hrc

    bluegirl;

    Actually, there almost seems to be a disconnect between education and “being smart”. I know a lot of smart people, involved, informed, make good money at a trade / profession, but maybe they never went to college.

    I know lots of college attendees (not all graduate), of there were quite a number of idiots.

    There seems to be a socio-economic component, with family history playing a role. Maybe someone’s daddy, and his daddy’s dad, etc. didn’t go to college because it was not affordable. Or, what about an upper crust family who are all professionals; if they had an underachiever, this person would be pressured to attend some university. I mean, for example, if your last name was Bush, and you had a complete idiot of a son. With the family’s help, one day he might just be president.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Bluegirl

    If we were so smart, we would figure out who Admin is.

  • bluegirl

    Thanks Jan, NMF, Turndown, and WBBoei, you’ve just made my day, lol.

    I admit I was having a rather bad day from the time I got up this morning and then when I checked this blog I saw some people talking about their college educations and I had noticed that alot in the other threads and I guess I was feeling (including a bit inferior) like maybe that was a requirement to be accepted here.

    Thanks again.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Bluegirl

    Are you Admin by any chance???

  • bluegirl

    Jan H, I don’t have much to put in my posts, and that’s why I was glad to have found this blog, because I got to see all the things that everyone was finding out about bambi.

    You can’t get that on TV anymore except for Fox and I have to wonder about them sometimes.

    You guys have a way of finding out so much. I’ve told my husband that I’ve seen things in here long before I ever see it on TV.

  • bluegirl

    NMF, Lol, no I’m not admin.

  • wbboei

    An organization is only as smart as its weakest link, and that link can be a highly educated CEO who is unwilling to admit that he is wrong or take advice from the average person.
    ————————————
    How true. I used to think that was the exception to the rule. I now know different. To simplify their lives and to give them the assurance we are all looking for, they surround themselves with people who tell them what they want to hear and ignore feedback from reality in the midst of a changing environment. It does them in and the organization as well sometime later. But just try telling them that even in the most diplomatic way.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Bluegirl

    You know what the amazing things was, the more educated I was, the more they thought I was smart.

    I found that amusing, as I was no smarter than when I began, I just learned how to take a test and find it in a book. Sometimes it made me angry, as I felt they should have respected my opinions to begin with.

  • NewMexicoFan

    wbboei

    Amen

  • bluegirl

    rgb44, I know what you mean. Two of my sons are gratuates of Penn State and another one is going to a community college, belatedly.

    My one son goes to neurology conferences all over the US, since he is a senior editor (and also writes some articles of a neurology journal), but I’m amazed sometimes at the little things he doesn’t seem to know about.

    We used to play some word board games when they would all come home for holidays and I would come up with words, that he never heard of and he would have to look them up in the dictionary, because he didn’t think they were words, lol.

  • Idunn

    Bluegirl, speaking just for me here , I occasionally mention that I’m college educated when I’m drawing a short version picture of who I am as a voter. It’s more about demographics more than anything else.

    I could give you a long long list of people who aren’t college educated or didn’t finish high school that are ALOT smarter than I am…my mother, my husband , my elderly neighbor , to name just a few. ;)

    But here’s the thing, having a degree doesn’t make you an “elitist” , thinking it makes you better than anyone else does.

  • birdgal

    bluegirl Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    Birdgal, I am not a bot
    ————————————————————————–

    I know that. I enjoy reading your postings. Just meant that people on this blog are accepting of anyone, but bots. Everyone on this board seems to be from different walks of life, but we all love Senator Clinton, and believe NObama.

  • wbboei

    Dija: it is an unsigned order of summary judgment. It has no legal effect unless and until the judge signs it. If he does sign it then Barack Obama cannot be president.

    Bear in mind, defendants have asked that the case be dismissed. They have submitted an order of dismissal. That has not been signed either. It has no legal effect now either.

    We shall see what the judge says most likely today or tomorrow.

  • JanH

    wbboei,

    Is this before or after the judge gets bought off by Obama and his merry thugs? ;)

  • moononpluto

    Murtha could be about to lose his seat, now we know why Rendell is shit scared of W.Penn

    michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/breaking-new-poll-shows-russell-over-murtha-48-35/

    A Pennsylvania source has just leaked me brand spanking new poll data showing GOP upstart Bill Russell leading John Murtha by 48-35.

    This comes on top of the Susquehanna poll showing Murtha ahead of Russell by 4 points, within the margin of error.

    The new poll is from Dane and Associates, which surveyed over 800 probable voters, randomly selected to reflect the district makeup, on Wednesday night.

  • birdgal

    moon: Wow. That is a surprise, isn’t it? I remember, how happy people were, when Murtha endorsed Senator Clinton.

  • JanH

    LOL…we need a few more Murtha and Biden moments and all will be well with the world! :)

  • moononpluto

    Not after what he did, no its not a surprise at all, Murtha may just get his ass handed to him.

  • confloyd

    I have been thinking of that Christmas song the 12 days of Christmas, come on Republicans give us those 12 days of Christmas shoes being dropped on Obama!!!

  • henry

    bluegirl
    I think you are in PA as well as I. I posted earlier today that I was a mesculin eating, gay, college graduate in Western PA just to make it clear that there are many people not drinking the kool aid and we come in all shapes and sizes. I wear a McCain button on the bus and people start arguments with me everyday. Of those 99% are of the caucasian persuasion and doing well, and will rarely allow discourse instead I have been called racist. Which at this point just makes me laugh.
    Anywho I love your posts and I for one who announced my education was only trying to refute the media myth that only a certain segment of W PA was supporting McCain.

  • confloyd

    This economic news is horrifying for a new business owner like myself. BTW, I should be open for business by the weekend!!

  • Emjay

    ABM90

    Google this article, give yourself plenty of time to read it, but read it.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/22/breaking-the-numbers-dont-lie-but-the-dnc-does/

    Also I know you like the pink pages the best, but check in with
    River Daughter Confluence once in a while…just google “River Daughter” and choose the first one.

    Anglachel is also thoughtful, and honest, sometimes heavy, but worth diving into for small amounts of time.

    The article I reprinted from her about Hillary’s DNC Convention Speech was the one you liked so much.

    More later.

  • moononpluto

    Hey, if my rep said I was racist just because i don’t want to vote for the black guy, i’d tell him where to go to, who the hell is he to infer who or what people are voting about.

    Why is no one asking him to resign is the best bit, Geraldine had to resign, they been trying to make McCain apologise for everything, so why not Murtha, or I forgot, he’s the one accussing.

  • henry

    moononpluto
    the scariest thing I have ever watched in my life was the icky icky man crush which happaned between waffles and Harry Reid(sp) on the cbs morning show. Vile. He was overwhelmed that bambi liked his little song. The host of whatever CBS morning show was visibly giddy that bambi liked his piece. Why did I have it on hey I was in the middle of a timed texas hold ‘em game.

  • henry

    moon
    I am also waiting for the perfect chance to use the urinal at the apollo line the next time some one accuses me of racism for not supporting thier choice.

  • moononpluto

    Its time like that i wish i had a special remote control, that had a “explode their head” button which you just pointed and pushed.

  • djia

    wbboei Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Dija: it is an unsigned order of summary judgment. It has no legal effect unless and until the judge signs it. If he does sign it then Barack Obama cannot be president.
    *******************8

    Thanks Wbboei

    that’s what i thought since no signature appeared on the dotted line…..but wasn’t sure about it either

  • henry

    wb(and then lots of vowels)
    disagreed with me the other day that I thought Murtha’s slights were intentional. I respectfully disagree as Murtha himself has said the community has changed. Everyone I have met in my life who is actually racist has no qualms about being referred to in that manner. But no one wants to be called a redneck. As Murtha said in his last statement the community has changed it has become more affluent so if you label the potential McCain voters as racists but then turn around and say we didn’t mean you we meantthose other people, you’re not ignorant white trash vote for the black guy and prove it.

    I

  • Talk about biased polls, The Big10 Battleground just released polls showing Obama with a doublte digit lead in OH, PA, MI, MN, WI, IA, IN and IL.

    What you really have to look for is that Big10 Battleground is really the member universities of the Big10 in other words they are polls done by Obamatrons and the data does not give a breakdown of Republicans and democrats sampled.

  • Finally just saw an ad featuring sarah and explaining her experience. Ad by Our Country Deserves Better

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    Guys help me out here!

    I feel like I’m losing my faith here. I don’t understand it…t seems like all the f-ing planets have lined up for that fraud/loser!

    The insane amount of money being poured into his campaign (probably fro Hamas and friends), the freaking bad Economy, the disgusting biased Media and even some freaking conservatives going on CNN and trashing McCain and Palin.

    I know, I know. Believe me..I’ve been battling Koolaid drinkers and even friends and family on this subject and even though I could give you guys a million reasons why that s.o.b shouldn’t win- it seems people don’t care, nor do they want to hear about it. I mean, blacks could find out tomorrow this guy is the Anti Christ and they’d still vote for that clown.

    It seems to me the only thing that could bring that bum down is something major like “ties to Al Queda, a Gay sex scandal, child out of wedlock, Rezko giving him up or something along those lines.

    Please help me out here. I need a shot of hope and confidence that something will stop this guy from ruining our country!!

    p.s

    BTW, where are all the prominent (Romney, Thompson, Huckabee, Bush father, Baker) Republicans at? Why aren’t they out there for McCain/Palin?? I’m so freaking down right now..It’s like my country has been taken over by a bunch of freaking aliens bent on destroying it! All this is like a bad B movie!!!

  • basil9

    McCain supporter mutilated in Pittsburg, a B carved into her face!

    Heard it on hannity and now developing on drudge.

    I’ve been thinking about stocking up on food, water and birdseed and this incident just lit a fire under my butt. tomorrow i do massive shopping. i just have a very bad feeling about november. i’m looking into pistol permits in NYS. i’m not kidding.

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    Have you guys heard about this? OMG!!!

    SHOCK: MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH

    ‘B’ CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN’S FACE

    drudgereport.com

  • basil9

    anyone else hear cnn suggested McCain suspend his campaigel

    coz of BO’s granny visit?

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    You know what the saddest part is..only Fox News and the Drudge report are reporting on this!

  • birdgal

    basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    anyone else hear cnn suggested McCain suspend his campaigel

    coz of BO’s granny visit?

    ———————————————————————-

    Are you serious? BO is not suspending his own campaign. His bitter half will be campaigning for him.

  • debbie

    thenextright.com/warner-todd-huston/obama-supporter-beats-up-mccain-supporter-media-silent

    this is sickkkkkkkkkkkk

  • henry

    basil9
    canot get to the tv soon
    call letters for major PGH news stations are
    kdka.com
    wtae.com
    wpxi.com

  • independent2008

    birdgal Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
    basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    anyone else hear cnn suggested McCain suspend his campaigel

    coz of BO’s granny visit?

    ———————————————————————-

    Are you serious? BO is not suspending his own campaign. His bitter half will be campaigning for him.

    Birdgal,

    Describing Michelle as Obama’s bitter half really cracked me up. You hit the nail right on the head!!

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    Here’s an update on the beati

    thesilentmajority.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/up-date-on-the-assault-against-a-mccain-manhattan-volunteer/

  • henry

    basil9
    just did a search of PGH news on yahoo and came up with nothing
    do you have a link?

  • basil9

    independent, birdgal,

    i read that at a couple of nq posts. i did a search but couldn’t find it. just wondering if anyone else
    heard it or it’s just a rumor.

    that mutilation story is friggin scary as hell.

    henry, i’ll check those stations.

  • JanH

    Bo wouldn’t suspend his campaign or postpone the debate when the economy tanked. I think this is a joke. CNN has lost all credibility. Do they want McCain to hold Obama’s hand as well?

  • moononpluto

    This is whats its come to, this sort of thing is going to bring out racial violence and its this sort of incident that will kick riots off.

    Murtha, Obama and his ilk have been stoking this with their, “get in their faces” shit.

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

    heres the news report

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.

    The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

  • JanH

    sotonightthatimightsee,

    Romney has been on Fox news just this week and last week as well as on the trail with McCain in support of him.

    Huckabee gives him a boost every weekend when his show is on.

    And to be honest, this is just what the bots want…someone posting on here and acting like they are beaten down by all the lies and corruption from their side.

  • basil9

    jan,

    i’m trying to track down that cnn rumor.

  • pm317

    About my last post, I want to take back the smiley face — I hope we will heave a sigh of relief on Nov 5th. It is really no laughing matter for most of us.

  • Lin67

    sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
    Here’s an update on the beati

    thesilentmajority.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/up-date-on-the-assault-against-a-mccain-manhattan-volunteer/
    ==
    I think this is a different one. This is manhattan, the carving in the face was Pittsburgh. Good Lord its rampant.

  • JanH

    LOL…basil,

    the problem is, that CNN is so in the tank with this creep that it wouldn’t surprise me in the least! ;)

  • wbboei

    Hillary Clinton’s Horse-Thief Ancestor-FICTION!
    (a perfect example of how MSNBC operates and the blogosphere operates)

    Summary of Erumor:
    This email claims that Hillary Clinton is a genealogy enthusiast and discovered an ancestor who was hanged as a horse thief and bank robber in 1889. It was her great-great uncle Remus Rodham. The only picture of him was one of him standing on the gallows just before he was hung and had an inscription on the back describing his crimes, capture, and execution. When the account of great-great Uncle Remus was placed into Hillary’s family history, however, the picture was cropped to just a head shot of Remus along with a sanitized version of his story that was expertly created by Hilllary’s image-makers.

    The Truth:
    This is not true just like it was not true about Al Gore or George W. Bush. The essence of this story is from an old piece of humorous writing that was designed to demonstrate how you can put “spin” on a negative story to make it sound positive. Someone altered the story to make it seem as though it was talking about an ancestor of Al Gore. Then another version got started saying it was about an ancestor of Hillary Clinton. Now there is a version making the rounds saying it is about George W. Bush.

    A real example of the story as it has been circulated:

    modifying family history
    It’s all in the way you present it:

    Hillary, an amateur genealogical researcher, discovered that her great-great uncle, Remus Rodham, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.

    The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this inscription:

    “Remus Rodham; horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.”

    In Hillary’s Family History, her staff of professional image consultants, cropped Remus’s picture, scanned it in as an enlarged image, and edited with image processing software so that all that’s seen is a head shot. The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows:

    “Remus Rodham was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”

  • Idunn

    Some thing seems “off” to me about that mutilation story.

  • henry

    moononpluto
    How do you do what you do? I did several searches using all of the local PGH media outlets and came up empty. You are thousands of miles away and you get it first? I am in this evil place and nothing shows up

  • Lin67

    Idunn Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
    Some thing seems “off” to me about that mutilation story.
    ===
    What seems off Idunn??

  • JanH

    It just seems way too bizarre to be true.

  • birdgal

    wbboei: Spin is everything. LOL.

  • basil9

    :oops:

    sorry moonpluto.

  • henry

    Idunn
    couple the faux mutilation story with “I’m not a redneck” and ya win over lots of votes.
    When I was in downtown PGH busting my ass for Senator Clinton mostly using Kerry numbers I heard over and over again that an individual was for her until she went negative and started attacking the black man. HELP!!!! NO kids of my own but I care about my boom boom and my pickles(she so respects Id–n)

  • Idunn

    Here’s what puzzles me: atm machines have camera’s in front of them. So this woman had to have parked out of sight of the camera, right? Why would you do that? Then she’s robbed. Then the robber just happens to see a McCain sticker on her car, and comes back to punch her, kick her and carve a “b” into her face? Is this a REALLY remote atm machine? The robber just doesn’t give a shit if he gets caught? Then…they woman refuses medical treatment?

    Just…seems, I dunno , weird to me. Not saying it didn’t happen, just that it seems “off”, you know?

  • JanH

    The guy carves a letter into her face and she refuses medical treatment???

  • basil9

    here idunn,
    press conference soon.
    McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburg – Seperate attack in NYC
    In 2008 Presidential Elections on October 23, 2008 at 8:16 pm
    McCain volunteer and supporter attacked and mutilated in Pittsburg – ‘B’ Carved into 20-year old woman’s face…

    Update 1: The Pittsburgh bureau of police is preaparing a news conference. They are waiting for all the press to arrive.

    Update 2: The 20-year-old woman is a McCain staffer and volunteer from Texas.

    A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield, PA near Pittsburg was also mutilated by her attacker as soon as attacker learned the victim was a McCain supporter.

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard said t the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.

    The robber is described as a dark-skinned man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

    ————–

  • Idunn

    And the guy is 6 ft 4, 200 lbs? Definitely not your “average guy”.

  • independent2008

    JanH Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
    Bo wouldn’t suspend his campaign or postpone the debate when the economy tanked. I think this is a joke. CNN has lost all credibility. Do they want McCain to hold Obama’s hand as well?

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————–
    Jan, LOL!!!!! (McCain holding Obama’s hand)

  • rgb44hrc

    THE FALLIABILITY OF THE “INEVITABILITY” ARGUMENT

    rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
    Talk about biased polls, The Big10 Battleground just released polls showing Obama with a doublte digit lead in OH, PA, MI, MN, WI, IA, IN and IL.

    What you really have to look for is that Big10 Battleground is really the member universities of the Big10 in other words they are polls done by Obamatrons and the data does not give a breakdown of Republicans and democrats sampled.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Obama sought to discredit Hillary’s Inevitability Strategy, but in truth, he couldn’t stop her. Only the corrupt DNC in collusion w/ Obama could.

    Now, we are seeing that same strategy attempting to be used by the Obama campaign and their pals in Big Media.

    So you have fake little trumped up polls showing Obama with double digit leads in ridiculous places.

    The thing is, when it comes to closing the deal, Obama “can’t get it up”. He intimidated his way through caucuses, but look at the big juicy prizes where he “was ahead” in polls, and lost: NH, NJ, CA, TX, PA, etc. No amount of VotingViagra can help him get it up.

    McCain is the Anti-Obama. Trailing early, but picked up steam. Repubs went with him because he is a) centrist enough to win, b) extremely qualified. Obama: not centrist, not qualified.

  • henry

    Doing my searches here in PGH
    so far nothing

  • Lin67

    huh, I don’t know, other than the robber could have followed her to her car cause he knew about the cameras, but that makes you wonder why she walked to the ATM, and it sounded like he was just planning to rob her until he saw the sticker on her car, then decided to mutilate her.

  • Idunn
    Plus she refused treatment.

  • henry

    All I can say that in the pittsburgh area as a person who does not know how to drive and is such dependent upon public transpotration I have endured a tremendous amount of harrassment echoing back to the better days when we thought Senator Clinton would be the nominee. Since then I haqve chosen to wear a PALIn shirt causes a little disturbance here and tere but it is always white men who call me names. Makes me smile when I am sitting alone on a bus with a country first t-shirt on and someone assumes on a train that they can call me gay and tell me I am an idiot for ever voting republican. Thanks to all of you here I do not buckle. Admin you are brilliant.

  • fox talking about it now

  • JanH

    henry,

    I’m sorry you’ve had to go through all that.

  • rgb44hrc

    The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Doesn’t this fit Obama’s physical desription?

  • henry

    I WANT TO REPEAT

    THANKS TO ALL OF YOU HERE I DO NOT BUCKLE’

    THANKYOU
    THANKYOU
    THANKYOU

  • wbboei

    wb(and then lots of vowels)
    disagreed with me the other day that I thought Murtha’s slights were intentional. I respectfully disagree as Murtha himself has said the community has changed. Everyone I have met in my life who is actually racist has no qualms about being referred to in that manner. But no one wants to be called a redneck. As Murtha said in his last statement the community has changed it has become more affluent so if you label the potential McCain voters as racists but then turn around and say we didn’t mean you we meantthose other people, you’re not ignorant white trash vote for the black guy and prove it.
    ———————————————
    henry: I cannot recall my exact comments but I thought what you were saying that over the top comments like those of Murtha are intended to counter the bradley effect by shaming guilty whites into voting for the faud–which I believe is true. But what I was saying was that
    it was more likely to alienate white voters and cause them to vote against a campaign that tries to put them in that box, especially when they can vote in the privacy of a voting booth. I still think that is true.

  • Idunn

    Doesn’t this fit Obama’s physical desription?

    yeah…maybe it was emergency cash for a bit of blow down the street. ;)

  • moononpluto

    Who knows, its like rape when you get attacked like that, you dont want anyone to touch you, you want to run and hide, so maybe thats just the case, and besides who knows what way the journalists are reporting or even if correctly.

  • Speaking of rape does anyone think it is a conincedence that the Duke rape case is being thrown back into the spotlight in NC less than 2 weeks before the election?

  • birdgal

    rjk1957 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
    Speaking of rape does anyone think it is a conincedence that the Duke rape case is being thrown back into the spotlight in NC less than 2 weeks before the election?

    ——————————————————————-

    Why? I thought, it had been settled. More race baiting?

  • moononpluto

    I’ve just made the biggest pot of irish stew and i’m loving it, sending out its warm earthy taste to my friends here, especially basil who deserves that warm feeling after getting well again, my mother always made this for me when i was ill.

  • The alledge victim has penned a book and it was released online today.

  • basil9

    from hillbuzz:

    In Florida, Obama supporters shot at a McCain volunteers home — apparently because the man has McCain signs in his yard.

    If you do not support Obama, his followers apparently will shoot you in Florida and carve Obama’s initial into your face in Pennsylvania.

    Has any presidential candidate ever attracted more hate-filled violent people than Obama?

    Can you think of any? Because we can’t.

  • henry

    wbboei
    I believe and I may be mistaken but believe that Murtha may have decided he is done but he can deliver a number of votes. A rasict has no problem with his feeliongs. Call me a redneck and I am pissed. Or I do not want to identify with said terms and as asuch I will vote for obama to prove to me that I am no a RASIST

  • ShortTermer

    Bluegirl, are you the Bluegirl from PUMApac? Welcome either way. And, no there are no elitists here, here we are a group of very diverse people, with diverse backgrounds all willing to support and learn from each other.And that is just as it should be.

    Those of you from PA, you should be pretty happy with Murtha and Rendell’s reaction, right? I know I am. But if Rendell is able to convince Hillary and Bill to join nObama in PA, I will be mightily upset. Do any of you live in the part that was described as Alabama running down through the middle? If so, then I know for a fact that ya’ll are all good good people, as I said earlier, salt of the earth, better people could not be found than those.

  • Long day should have been alleged

  • basil9

    awwwwwww………….moon that’s so sweet.

    do you make potato – leek soup? that’s my fav!

  • JanH

    Moon,

    I’m Jewish and am going to ask a stupid question…lol…what exactly makes an “Irish Stew” Irish? ;)

  • Murtha may be one of those 12% of Hillary supporters who are voting for McCain.

  • CountTheVotes

    I’m dubbing this phrase “revenge voting” – that’s what happened in NH with women pissed as hell over the media coverage of Clinton.

    There will be lots of revenge voting against BO and his media gang this election cycle from Republicans and Dems and indies.

  • henry

    NOTHING SO FAR WPXI IN PGH

  • basil9

    from hillbuzz and i agree with every word.

    Obama supporters attacked a McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh today — carving a “B” for “Barack” into the flesh of someone who doesn’t support Obama.

    People — this is now officially worse than anything the McGovern kids did in 1972.

    The name-calling, rock-throwing, death threats, telephone harrassment, screaming and yelling, pushing and shoving, rat-f***ing political dirty tricks, and everything else Obama supporters have done – first to Clinton supporters and now McCain supporters – have always been bad, just like the things McGovern kids did in 1972 were bad.

    But, we never heard of McGovern kids carving “G”s into Nixon supporters’ faces. It never got this bad.

    Obama supporters are truly the most despicable people we’ve ever encountered – and we worked the Kerry, Gore, and 1996 Clinton campaigns. We’ve never seen any political supporters mutilate anyone’s flesh before.

    If you vote for Obama, you condone this behavior, and empower the thugs who commit acts of violence like this in his name.

    Why hasn’t Obama come out to tell his followers to stop doing this?

    Obama must stop his followers from mutilating the flesh of those who oppose him.

  • birdgal

    This violence is very troubling, and will only become worse, if BO happens to get elected, or not. Bad either way.

  • moononpluto

    oh that would be telling Jan, mama’s recipe.

    Basil, do I ever, i make great soups especially potato and leek.

  • moononpluto

    So guys stay in, lock your doors come Nov 4th night because when McCain wins the wheels will definitely come off the Obama supporters bus.

  • JanH

    LOL…I guess I’ll just have to do some research. Enjoy the stew, moon. I bet it brings back great family memories. :)

  • JanH

    Obama is bringing out the worst sort of behavior. Crazies and criminals are now coming out of the woodwork because of him. I hope he’s proud of himself…NOT!

  • moononpluto

    Jan it all goes back to that “get in their faces”, I want his face rubbed in that comment.

  • wbboei

    Correllation or causation–you decide:

    1. The Obama campaign plays the race card against the Clintons in South Carolina. (See Professor Wilentz)

    2. Howard Dean calls Republicans the white people party.

    3. Bill Richardson makes racial appeal to Hispanic voters in support of the Obama candidacy.

    4. Chuck Todd of MSNBC calls the people of New Hampshire racists

    5. Jack Murtha (and other Dems) call their own constituents racists.

    6. Jessie Jackson III and former virginia governor wilder predicts riots in denver if obama does not receive the nomination–even though he ultimately lost the popular vote.

    7. Bots fire bomb the home of McCain supporter in Portland.

    8. Bot vandalize automobiles with McCain Palin bumperstickers.

    9. Bot assaults and mutilates McCain supporter who now does not want the publicity.

    10. Police in major cities prepare for unrest in major cities on or after election day.

    Q: Bambi lit the fuse. He did it to win the nomination and he is doing it again to win the election–he hopes. If the succeeds it may turn out to be a phryiic victory, when all is said and done.

  • rgb44hrc

    JanH Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
    Moon,

    I’m Jewish and am going to ask a stupid question…lol…what exactly makes an “Irish Stew”
    &&&&&&&&

    Tellin’ him he can’t put whiskey in his coffee.

  • basil9

    henry, idunn,

    i searched for more info on the mutilation story . . . henry, other posters say they haven’t heard about it on local pa stations. i dunno…..hannity is in pittsburgh today coz of a palin rally and he reported it . . .

    some posters are saying drudge was punked but here’s another report, fwiw.
    what went down with the McCain/Palin supporter who was allegedly attacked in Pennsylvania last night.

    According to Pittsburgh cops, around 9:30 PM last night, a female was robbed after she went to the ATM. The victim says during the robbery, the assailant saw the McCain/Palin sticker on her car and became “enraged.” He struck her and knocked her down, and allegedly carved a “B” on her cheek.

    The assailant is still at large. Police tell us all they have is a description — a man, 6′4″, with dark skin and dark clothes.

    A McCain spokesman confirmed to TMZ the victim volunteered in McCain’s Pennsylvania office.

  • basil9

    moonpluto,

    You HAVETA send me some! I LURVE soup, especially potato-leek!

  • wbboei

    12. chairman of the democratic North Caolina democratic party tells his party not to vote for any white politican–regardless of policies.

  • rgb44hrc

    IRISH STEW:

    Potatoes
    equal parts whisky and water
    salt

  • moononpluto

    thats not how i make it

  • wbboei

    Tellin’ him he can’t put whiskey in his coffee
    —————————————–
    Are you sure it isnt coffee in his whiskey?

  • basil9

    this is from the pittsburgh post gazette.

    Thursday, October 23, 2008
    By Michael A. Fuoco and Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    Pittsburgh Police are investigating a report by a campaign staffer for John McCain that she was mugged and the letter B was cut into her face following a robbery in Bloomfield last night.

    Police say the 20-year-old woman, who is from Texas, reported that the attack occurred around 9 p.m. after she withdrew $60 from an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street.

    She said a man armed with a knife demanded her money. She gave it to him and began walking toward her car, which has McCain stickers.

    Although the robber had moved away from her, he became agitated when he saw her car, punched her in the back of the head, pushed her to the ground and carved a B into her face, she reported.

    “This is what she’s telling police,” police spokeswoman Diane Richard said. “We can’t substantiate it at this time.”

    Police are checking video footage from a bank surveillance camera.

    Ms. Richard said the woman, who police are not identifying publicly, declined medical treatment at the scene.

    The suspect is described as black, 6 feet 4 inches, about 200 pounds. He was wearing dark clothing.

    The campaign of Barack Obama issued the following statement:

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice.”

    More details in tomorrow’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

  • Idunn

    So guys stay in, lock your doors come Nov 4th

    Who’s gonna attack me…the bear, the deer, or the racoons? ;)

    (Do feel bad for you city kids, though. Yikes!)

  • basil9

    sorry, a bit long, more on the attack.

    Confirmed via the Pittsburgh news channel WTAE-TV:

    Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Thanks to faustasblog for the link

    UPDATE: More details coming from KDKA television, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh:

    PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ? Pittsburgh police are investigating after a volunteer for the Republican campaign says she was attacked by a mugger who became enraged after seeing a John McCain bumper sticker on her car.

    According to police, the 20-year-old woman said she was robbed at an ATM in the Bloomfield area around 9pm last night after leaving a Republican phone bank.

    The woman told police that the suspect, described only as a dark-skinned African-American man about 6′4″, stole $60 from her and became enraged after seeing a bumper sticker supporting Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain on her car.

    The woman said the suspect punched and kicked her.

    The McCain camp tells KDKA that the victim is a 20-year-old Republican from Texas.

    According to a campaign spokesperson, after seeing her bumper sticker supporting McCain, the suspect said, ‘Oh you’re with McCain, you’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.’”

    After beating the woman, the McCain camp says the suspect carved a “B” in her cheek for “Barack” Obama.

    Police, however, have not confirmed that.

    The unidentified woman reportedly declined immediate medical attention last night but said she would go to the hospital today.

    In an official statement the McCain campaign says: “We’re shaken up by this. It’s sick and disgusting.”

    Governor Sarah Palin reportedly spoke with the victim by phone.

    Meanwhile, late this afternooon, the Obama-Biden campaign released a statement, saying: “This is a horrendous act of violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice.”

    UPDATE #2: What is this news from a local Florida station? This is the first time I have heard of this story. Now, the victim doesn’t have any proof that this incident was politically motivated. However, I’m seeing a disturbing pattern here. As I reported yesterday, Governor Palin’s motorcade was mobbed by overzealous supporters. Next, a young lady gets her face carved, and now a local republican headquarters manager has his house shot up? Now, this could be a stretch by the victim, and I’m not outright accusing the Democrats’ of this alleged act. However, I’m not writing it off either. Another hat tip to the truth tracker. From Local Channel 6:

    Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
    ‘Democrats Far More Aggressive in Seminole County,’ Victim Says

    LONGWOOD, Fla. — The home of a Central Florida Republican headquarters manager was shot up and damaged over his support of Sen. John McCain, the man told police.

    Rog Coverely said several pellets pierced his Longwood home. Coverely showed several spiderwebbed-holes in the front windows of his home.

    The Republican manager said he is convinced he was targeted because of new McCain signs he added around his home.

    “All I can tell you is this, I have a very good relationship with my neighbors,” Coverely said. “I mow my lawn. The only thing that has changed is I have two McCain signs in my front yard.”

    Coverely said he has taken about 300 calls concerning stolen or vandalized McCain signs in the area.

    “It says this campaign is getting vicious,” Coverely said.

    Coverely said it appears Democrats are becoming more aggressive in the county.

  • Idunn

    Okay, Basil…that story makes alittle more sense.

    (((McCain volunteer)))

  • wbboei

    i searched for more info on the mutilation story . . . henry, other posters say they haven’t heard about it on local pa stations. i dunno…..hannity is in pittsburgh today coz of a palin rally and he reported it . . .

    some posters are saying drudge was punked but here’s another report, fwiw.
    what went down with the McCain/Palin supporter who was allegedly attacked in Pennsylvania last night.
    ——————————————-
    The police report would describe the witness account of the incident. The station has it and has probably interviewed the victim. If she was mutilated, there must be some reason she refused medical attention. That is the only thing I would be interested in knowing.

    The larger point however is that by making race a core strategy of his campaign obama has widened and deepened the fault lines in our society, and that is the hell of it. This was obvious from the beginning. It is why I was so disgusted with him that he did not defend Clinton on these things.

    That was before I realized that this was a planned strategy on his part. For confirmation of this you need only consult the article by Professor Wilentz entitled Race Man, and the City Edition article to see the degree to which he exploited that issue. A man who operates on this level cannot run a multi-racial country.

  • basil9

    idunn,
    in the last 5 years i taught in urban schools i was pushed down stairs, threatend with a baseball bat, punched in the eye and threatened with a gun by 4 different kids ages 9-15.

    People don’t understand what can happen – think the opening scenes of lean on me – these kids are young, strong, healthy, strong, bored and conscienceless.

    It’s not entirely evil, most of them probably don’t entirely comprehend the ramifications of their actions but that’s little consolation for those of us who wander into their paths.
    I’m going down to the county clerk’s office tomorrow for my pistol permit application.
    in th

  • magic007

    OBAMA is Phony…No authentic birth certificate….This man must be in jail.

    It is our turn to save this great country of ours…..

    Please do whatever you can do to STOP Obama….

    God Bless America…

  • mj

    Looks like a hoax. B is backwards. Wouldn’t accept medical care. No witnesses. Out of way of camera. Prolly a hoax.

  • Idunn

    Basil…look into Lady Smiths. I have one and love mine.

  • moononpluto

    Ok, I am posting a warning here before you read this, you make your own minds up but a new scandal may be about to blow.

    dumbama.blogspot.com/

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/10/about_those_oba.html

    Gross, there are real nude photo’s of Obama’s mother on the web and it is suspected that “Frank” took them.

    However the real news story here is the fact that the speculation is the real reason why Obama does not want his BC found is that his father is not Obama Sr but really is Frank Marshall Davis

  • wbboei

    Basil: it has been said that a polite society is a well armed society. A friend of mine cites with appoval a small town in Georgia where everyone is armed and no one has to lock their doors. And while I would not carry the principle quite to that extreme it is a fact that police response can be inadequate, and there are circumsances where it is prudent to have a gun for personal protection.

  • birdgal

    moon: This is gettin weirder, with each passing day. Is that for real?

  • JanH

    LOL…rgb44hrc,

    those ingredients make moon a very happy person! ;)

  • moononpluto

    Well its out there, its starting to hit the blogs, seriously his mother really was trouble.

  • mj

    That doesn’t look like his mother.

  • Emjay

    rgb44hrc

    “I would be remiss if I did not elucidate…
    how Obama juxtaposes the syllolgistic and vituperative…
    in exhorting the frenzied masses”’
    into abhorrent, misogynistic displays.”

    “Dammit, sometimes I just can’t help myself”
    ————————
    Just imagine Barry White moaning those words into a a fuzzy-headed microphone -

    Makes my knees feel like Obama jello…………

  • Emjay

    Admin-

    It’s been a year dear…

    Time for another round of Barry White ? Please ?

  • JanH

    LOL…I am so not a fan of Barry White music…sigh…never have been.

  • A cure discovered for Obama Kool-aide drinkers?

    Scientists Erase Specific Memories in Mice

    By Alan Mozes
    HealthDay Reporter by Alan Mozes
    healthday Reporter – Wed Oct 22, 7:03 pm ET

    WEDNESDAY, Oct. 22 (HealthDay News) — It sounds like science fiction, by scientists say it might one day be possible to erase undesirable memories from the brain, selectively and safely.

    Using a complex genetic approach, U.S. and Chinese researchers believe they have done just that in mice, but the feat is far from being tested on humans.

    Study co-author Joe Z. Tsien, co-director of the Brain & Behavior Discovery Institute at the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, says the “work reveals a molecular mechanism of how [memory deletion] can be done quickly and without doing damage to brain cells.”

    The finding is published in the Oct. 23 issue of Neuron.

    Humans plagued by painful memories have long wished for a way to eject them from the brain. The concept was the premise of the popular 2004 film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, in which two former lovers pay a “memory-erasure” service to expunge the unhappy affair from their minds.

    To explore the possibility of safely carving away bits of memory, the study authors first focused on the activity of a common protein found only in the brain, called CaMKII.

    In both mice and people, this enzyme is often referred to as the “memory molecule” because of its key role in facilitating brain cell communication — especially people’s ability to learn and retain information.

    To hone in on the specific workings of CaMKII, Tsien and his team first developed a “chemical-genetic method” that enabled them to instantly turn the protein “on” or “off” among mice intentionally bred to overproduce the molecule.

    After exposing the mice to emotionally powerful stimulations, such as a mild shock to their paws, the scientists then observed how well or poorly the animals subsequently recalled the particular trauma as their brain’s expression of CaMKII was manipulated up and down.

    When the brain was made to overproduce CaMKII at the exact moment the mouse was prodded to retrieve the traumatic memory, the memory wasn’t just blocked, it appeared to be fully erased.

    This occurred without impacting the animal’s ability to recall any other memories, the scientists say.

    A similar observation was made in experiments involving the mice’s recognition of specific objects. In those cases, overexpression of CaMKII appeared to eliminate all memory of toys with which the mice had previously been exposed.

    According to Tsien, the animal study illustrates how the targeted erasure of specific memories might be genetically triggered in a controlled and harmless manner.

    The authors stressed that their work is in its infancy, but they believe it opens up the theoretical possibility of therapeutic applications for humans down the road. Memory erasure might help relieve trauma among people plagued by fearful memories, such as those with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), for example.

    “While memories are great teachers and obviously crucial for survival and adaptation, selectively removing incapacitating memories, such as traumatic war memories or an unwanted fear, could help many people live better lives,” Tsien said.

    However, Dr. Joe Verghese, an associate professor of neurology at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, cautioned that the animal work described in the study remains preliminary.

    “I think the idea of selectively targeting memory processes is very interesting,” he said, “because it not only opens up a whole area of possible intervention but also reveals something about the neurobiology that goes into creating memory in the brain.”

    “But memory in a human is much more complex than a memory in a mouse,” Verghese added. “So, this experimental model, while it brings to mind all sorts of possible applications, is many steps removed from any human application.”

    news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20081022/hl_hsn/scientistserasespecificmemoriesinmice

  • basil9

    thanks idunn.

    i like the sound of that – a ladysmith – isn’t that also the name of a south african singing group?

    moonpluto,

    i didn’t want to post andy martin’s newest theory but since you’ve brought it up, the rumor is bo was frank davis’s and anne durhams lovechild.

  • basil9

    wbboei,

    i like that! :-)

    it’s a good thing i now live in the country where i won’t be able to actually hurt anyone until i learn to aim and shoot the darn thing. hehehehe

  • basil9

    ladysmith black mambazo – GREAT group!

  • birdgal

    basil9 Says:

    October 23rd, 2008 at 6:21 pm
    thanks idunn.

    i like the sound of that – a ladysmith – isn’t that also the name of a south african singing group?

    —————————————————-

    Yes. I saw them in concert about 6 years ago.

  • Illinois Underground

    Hi, All: Sorry for my repetitive silly posts yesterday. Here is an update on corruption in Illinois – many subpoenas issued today digging deeper into the Blagojevich part of the investigation.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/yourmoney/chi-wyma-subpoena23oct23,0,3101259.story

  • basil9

    moonpluto,

    and she was the xmas present!!!!

    she sure was gorgeous.

  • djia

    on a blog that debbie schlussel linked too was this post :D

    Some practical socialism

    Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed–just imagine the coincidence.

    When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need– the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

    I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

    At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

  • NewMexicoFan

    djia.

    That was brillant. I am going to have to share that.

  • JanH

    djia,

    Bullseye!!! :)

  • basil9

    djia!!!!!!

    I am ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let’s just hope no one tries that on you! :wink:
    (of course you’re not a BO supporter – hehehehe)

  • djia

    LOL

    basil…….not a chance, it seems most in my area are voting McCain :D

    although… I did have one guy calling me “Palin” the other night at the bar where i work (he’s for Senator Government)
    because I wear my hair like me (palin wears her hair like me!) he kept calling me palin
    and a feminist :D (yea he’s a real chauvinistic oiker but correct i do support womens rights intensely )

    yeah……..I really embarrassed him with FACTS he couldn’t and didn’t have a clue how to
    rebutt or perhaps he just didn’t know what to say to such a strong opinionated woman :D

    His fiance’ came in afterward and he told her about our te’te and she sided with me :D

    all in all…… not sure i changed his way of thinking (doubt it) but he did leave with a smile and was friendly still

  • Emjay

    Someone was mentioning HRC in PA…

    Learned from another Pink Page Person today that he heard that Hillary is to be in Pitsburgh tomorrow, but of course not with Precious, cause he will be calling on the sick, body surfing or making a court appearance…or all three on the island of Owahu tomorrow.

  • basil9

    PLEASE watch this!

    Part 3 of “We Will Not Be Silenced.”

    ADMIN!!!! Can you embed?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8&eurl

  • basil9

    Hope he left a big tip! :wink:

  • djia

    McCain (re obama) to a reporter today ” stand by you will probably hear another policy change depending on the current polling data” LMAO!!!!!!

  • ABM90

    The assault on a McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh could be a n early start of the Obama campaign for Empowerment and Spread the Wealth promises.Murtha was not off mark with his statement about Race in this area but did not indicate who the guilty party might be.Is this a preview of things to come?

    BY ABM90 What has the Hustler done to our country?

  • Emjay

    Forgot to say

    There goes Rendell’s wish list for Clinton campaigning power for his state…she won’t be flashing that million watt smile in BO’s presence soon, at least not in PA.

  • JanH

    So let me guess. A media swarm to Hawaii to feature 99% of the news on poor Obama and maybe 1% left for negative reporting on McCain.

    Yep that seems about par to me. ;)

  • basil9

    Rabble Rouser at NQ posted these clips from We Will not be Silenced.

    These videos are devastating.
    There is now way the DNc Dean, Pelosi, Brazile weren’t aware of this.
    Sickening.
    Part 4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnclKiHwatw&eurl

  • basil9

    HERE is the PICTURE of the McCain volunteer who was attacked!

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  • moononpluto

    Thats a couple of shiners right there, notice the B is backwards, why do it backwards.

  • NewMexicoFan

    This bullying aggression from O people has been obvious through the entire campaign. And what happens, they call McCain out for it as a few frustrated supports speak out at a Rally.

  • basil9

    Here is the video about this story.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=204313

  • ABM90

    The assault story was on all of the 6pm news TV channels.As for the reversed letter “B”it also happened on an earlier newscast about small children in their classroom and all of the printing on the blackboard and on the T-shirts were backword.Could it be MSM news shaping?Perhaps a technician forgot to reverse the camera or film.Not familiar with news editing may be in play,alive and well.

    By ABM90

  • wbboei

    SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW TO ANSWER A BOT (IF YOU MUST, AND HE IS NOT TOO BUSY SLASHING TIRES OF MCCAIN SUPPORTERS)

    1. NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE: Obama has no executive experience;no legislation passed, exc. global poverty initiative at 800 billion.

    2. NO MORAL COURAGE: Obama has failed to take a stand on controversial issues (voted present 130 times)

    3. TOXIC ALLIANCES: Obama not only associated with vile people, he formed political alliances with them and tried to cover it up (rezko- 9 hours legal work, ayers-just a guy who happened to live in my neighborhood. ACORN alliance.

    4. ANTI-REFORM: Obama is a product of the Chicago Machine and fought against the forces of reform. (public project reform, nuclear plants, etc.)

    5. CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Obama is up to his neck in the current financial crisis, i.e. earmarks, fanney mae contributions (second most), franklin raines as advisor. Not represent constituents.

    6. ECONOMIC DISASTER: Obama would tank the economy–for sure not for maybe. (stock market plunge if he is elected, people moving money out of country now, tax plan would destroy small business–4% increase on FICA + 4% surcharge–causes massive job loss), elimination of tax exclusion on sale of home up to $250k of profit.

    7. RACE MAN: Obama exploits the racial issue (Professor Wilentz + City Edition).

    8. FOREIGN AFFAIRS DISASTER: meet with our enemies within 1 year and no preconditions.

    9. MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE: his entire backgound is foggy, yet he has received half a billon dollars in campaign contributions, some of it from foreign sources he refuses to identify.

  • basil9

    Here is a better video.

    Look on the right side.

    kdka.com/politics/McCain.Campaign.Worker.2.847449.html

    If it seems like I am obsessed with this story, you’re right, I am. This is what we can expect if BO gets in the WH.

  • basil9

    moonpluto,

    When I lived in NYC I was mugged 3 times (no- my life has not only been about violence although from my posts today you might not know ite).

    Once a guy whipped out a gun after stealing my purse and told me to keep walking. i did.

    Another time, when I was going to a rehearsal on 19th between 5th and 6th and carrying all my instuments a guy kicked and beat me and stole my instruments. I was injured and should have sought medical attention but the last thing i wanted to do was go to a hospital.
    i can understand why the McCain staffer chose to wait until the next day. the trauma is overwhelming and if the injuries aren’t life-threatening it makes perfect sense to calm down before subjecting yourself to questions, police reports, medical exams, etc. I hope they find that mf***er and stick him in a jail full of republican prisoners. :evil:

  • moononpluto

    exactly, thats what i said earlier, when things like that happen to you, you tend to want to hide and go into shock, its human nature.

    Poor girl, she probably was frightened out of her mind, in a strange town, no one knows her, I’d be scared too.

  • birdgal

    I hope the press stays away from her.

  • Idunn

    Thats a couple of shiners right there, notice the B is backwards, why do it backwards.

    My guess is that he was standing behind her head and leaned over. Thus, the “b” is backwards on her face, but would have been correct from his p.o.v.

  • CJ

    Wow welcome you PA people.yes dont cling to your GUNS its Pheaseant Hunting time right now here with lotts and lotts BIg time Hunters from all over the world hunting LOL…The Like the Mccain signs .. NO BO..we are gonna keep our guns..Southdakota 100 percent MCCain/Palin..
    we all here MIss Hillary…people that i have talked to will not vote BO..and its alott…

    tanks admin for that video of John Mccain..man what a TRUE American hero!!!and such a truthful person leats i wont vote for a LIAR and fraud.

  • NewMexicoFan

    birdgal

    McCain has told his people to calm down and respect everyone’s rights.

    When will Obama come out with this. If it has hit the news stations, he will need to say something. Of course we will vet this poor girl extensively first, down to what she ate for dinner the night before, and when she last had SXX.

    MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK FOR HER BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

  • henry

    basil9
    15 yrs ago right off the corner 45 and 9th I was walking home at 430am. A couple of guys jumped me as I was putting my key in the door, Grabbed me by the back of my head and slammed it repeatedly against the door. I never saw them they sat on my body and rifled through my pockets. I had been drunk but when I woke up the next day I called off work I was ashamed. I have an indent above my left eye from where they broke my skull. I probably never even would have gone to the doctors had my boss/friend not chosen to look in on me. My point is simply that I was ashamed that it had happenned. People react to violence differently. Especially when you cannot react in kind.

  • wbboei

    I am just guessing, but if they catch this guy with a knife, I will lay you odds he is an ex-felon who barack has gone to great length to register to vote. That would explain why took that action. Obviously, the media is culpable too, but it began with loveable Barack.

    Certainly, Baracks message reached this criminal in some form, but as Barack might well say he did not understand. True. But when you are a Messiah like Barack is, and when you speak in eternal truths like Barack always does, there will be varying interpretations of your worlds.

    Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Messiah to be circumspect and not exploit certain issues for political gain. If he violates that prescript, trouble will ensue, as it did here.

  • Idunn

    Also, not that I’m suggesting ANYTHING…but if you stood facing a mirror and scratched the letter “b” on your own face, it would also likely appear backwards. I wouldn’t be surprised if police considered this, and that’s part of the reason for her second interview.

    (again…not suggesting she’s lying, just saying the police will want to consider every possiblility, you know?)

  • JanH

    has the Obama campaign commented on this latest act of violence all in the name of the O’Mighty idiot?

  • Idunn

    Yep. Said they hoped the guy was caught, and that their thoughts and prayers went out to her, or something to that effect.

  • alcina

    geez idunn, you’ve come up with two great explanations. you watch a lot of CSI?? ;)

    also, CJ….nice to hear from you!

  • The robber could be dyslexic or the negative could have been reversed.

  • Idunn

    geez idunn, you’ve come up with two great explanations. you watch a lot of CSI??

    Maybe I was a homicide detective before I became a raggedy old farm wife. :P

  • Happy days is now on my blocked list.

    The Fonz, Richie Reunite for Obama

  • JanH

    So then maybe Obama can get out there and recant his “get in their faces” comment? ;)

  • alcina

    bluegirl Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    Is this an elitist blog?
    *************************
    couldn’t possibly be an elitist blog with me posting now and then. my third grade teacher informed my mom at a teacher-parent conference i was destined to be an elementary school drop-out. however, i had the last laugh and made it through. it’s those Harvard law review president’s you have to be leery of!

    night all!

  • pm317

    # rjk1957 Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    The robber could be dyslexic or the negative could have been reversed.
    ——————————-

    He could be standing over/near her head.

  • JanH

    or he could have deliberately carved it that way…like an Obama cult ritual.

  • CJ

    rjk are you serious henry winkler for Obama..OMG i walked in to a resturant .and he look right at me as i came in i had the slighest idea who he was.there were 4 of us in line to pay he was one of them someone in that 4 reconized him ..so long story short he sign my check and then told me as i walked in i looked like his sister LOL…come to think about he looks thugish LOL..he is short too like 5ft 4..no happy days for me either…anyone for OFraudliar i block too..

  • basil9

    henry,

    Hell’s Kichen, huh? (or is that below 42?)

    Personally, I beleive the staffer’s story and she sure had the sh!t beat out of her. If it was dark and she is no from the area and is only 20 i can only imagine that her first instinct, after having survived the beating and robbery, would be to contact someone she knew. From what I read, it was after she got to her friend’s nearby apartment that they went back to the scene to talk with police. Makes perfect sense to me. And that backwards B doesn’t look like something she could inflict on herself.

    I’m just glad the poor thing is ok, at least physically. She’ll carry the emotional scars of what happened for years as you probably know all too well, henry. We don’t realize it when it’s happening but that sort of violation shapes us, often in ways we never could have forseen.

    glad you made it through, henry. NYC is a fascinating exhilerating and dangerous place.

  • Idunn

    You guys remember that vicious Ezra Stead video, right? The one where he talks about wanting to rape Tipper Gore, Sarah Palin , etc. etc. The New Agenda is making the guys world a living hell. LOL!

    Go New Agenda, GO!!!

    thenewagenda.net/2008/10/22/together-we-can-make-a-difference/

  • CJ
    Add matlock to that block list Howard, Winkler and Griffith reprised their rols as Opie mand Andy, Richie the Fonz for new Obama commercials. Howard even wears a toupee to reprise his roles as Richie and Opie

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/ron-howards-call-for-obam_n_137214.html

  • basil9

    I LOVE this video!!!!!
    Morris said today he thinks JM can win coz he just made a smart media buy of 2500 points and it’s mostly for Joe the Plumber ads. Morris says that is resonating strongly with the public and we should know by Monday how well it will work,

    This isn’t a JM-approved ad but it’s wonderful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS0OYjMKCdc&eurl

  • basil9

    :oops:

    It is a JM-approved ad.

  • basil9

    D@MN!!!!!!!
    Palin is ROCKIN’ on Hannity!
    I could get used to her!

  • basil9

    WOW!

    there is a lot of doubt out there about the staffer attack and some posters calling it a hoax. i still beleive it. here’s anothe take.

    I spoke with two executives at the College Republicans on the record about this story. Charlie Smith, the National Chair, and Ethan Eilon, the Executive Director, both say the photo is legitimate and that it came from Ashley Todd, the victim in this case. The attack began at 8:50 pm ET and Ashley called the police at 9:30 PM ET. Initially, she was robbed, ran away after the robbery, and the robber followed her to her car. At that point, he became enraged at the bumper sticker and began beating her and scratched the ‘B’ into her face. Ashley went to the hospital early this morning after initially refusing medical attention last night, and had an MRI and/or a CAT scan. Doctors believe her cheek will heal fully.

    Eilon spoke with her personally today about the incident and confirmed the above with me. He first met Ashley in June, when she came to DC for training with the College Republicans. She works for them as a contract employee. She does not work for the McCain campaign. Both Eilon and Smith expressed revulsion over an attack on a young woman just getting involved in politics, but they consider this the act of a lone lunatic.

    I’m not going to blame people for keeping a healthy skepticism on this case, but so far, the two media reports appear to check out.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.

  • lil ole grape

    Basil check out prettybird

  • debbie

    so far I’ve been called a bamboozler, okie doker, hoodwinker, bitter, gun clinging, bible hugging, racist, redneck, typical white person

    I need a therapist

  • Lin67

    I absolutely believe that poor girl, it would be awfully hard to beat yourself up that badly. And it seems to be a pattern, not an isolated incidence.

  • wbboei

    Yep. Said they hoped the guy was caught, and that their thoughts and prayers went out to her, or something to that effect.
    —————————————-
    pro-forma

  • Lin67

    debbie LMAO! I think we will all need a therapist after this trip called the national election.

  • wbboei

    I believe there is hated in the obama campaign. We saw it in the primary directed at Hillary. Part of it comes from Michelle, but it spreads out from there. The whitey tape and API interview will shed important light on this. The leaders of any organization define the culure, and what is permissable. Boundary markers must be laid down.

    Organizations are willing to to blame the perpetator but are reluctant to proceed up the line to the people who set the tone or failed to lay down markers. It is okay to hang privates, corporals and sergeants, but senior officers get off lightly or they are not touched. We saw that at the Iraq prison. Nobody dares to connect the dots.

  • bluegirl

    I was watching Sarah and Hannity a while ago and something ocurred to me. They were talking like if bambi gets in he will be tested to see if he can handle the presidency and even McCain has been saying that he (McCain) won’t have to be tested since he’s experienced.

    But what I thought of is when Biden said that bambi will need our help and it won’t seem like what he’s doing is right at the time. Maybe bambi has a plan already drawn with some other country to supposedly do something to us so that he can get us to do his bidding and in doing so, we will acutally be helping him accomplish something that we wouldn’t ordinarily want done and that would be his way of getting it done. Maybe he got Biden to say that so when it happens, we’ll all be prepared and go along with whatever it is.

    I don’t know if I’ve explained myself clearly, but I hope I did. Maybe my thinking is way off base, but that thought just hit me when I was watching them talk about it.

  • wbboei

    I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.
    ——————————————–
    They hired Berg as their attorney did they not? I assume he know what is going on.

  • JanH

    Colmes has got to be the most stupid and obnoxious men in the world masquerading as a journalist. ;)

  • wbboei

    I am still waiting for the the telephone call to Africa by MO to break. However, it is beginning to look like another dead end

    Either that or money talks.
    ——————————————–
    They hired Berg as their attorney did they not? I assume he know what is going on
    —————————————
    If money was their thing, then I believe they would have taken this to bambi before any public announcement. On the other hand, perhaps they did, got no bite and decided to up the ante. I think they are biding their time, and so is Corsi. Internal polling may determine what gets used and when. In watching them operate, they seem to be methodical and risk adverse.

  • JanH

    bluegirl,

    I agree.

  • NewMexicoFan

    wbboei

    So will Berg lay the bomb. He is the Lawyer also in court about the Birth Certificate is he NOT.

    Just trying to understand what we are waiting for.

  • AmericanGal

    It seems so very quiet in politics right now…is that unusual?

  • CJ

    will do RJK…i guess those liberals come out of the closet,geez..I blobvked there shows CNN msnbc has not been on my tv for 8 months..lol..they tried to trash hillary …they are crooked news stations

    That sarah palin has got me hooked ..I like her truthfullness..and
    be Sarah ..Wow she got elizabeth hasselback just endorse Sarah
    and her cohorts were hillary and core democrats they all of a sudden turn into Liberals..lol..GO Mac/Palin

  • wbboei

    NewMexicoFan: berg is the attorney on the bc issue, and API announced that they had hired him to negotiate on their behalf wiht the several networks who are seeking to purchase and use it. If I recall correctly they said some networks claimed they had a deal when in fact they did not, according to API. If NBC buys it with bambi money it will never see the light of day. The term for that is preclusive buying you buy something you do not need to prevent your competitor from having it and using it against you. But given the fact that they hired berg and say they want the truthe out I think the chances are fairly good that we will see it before the election. That is my best guest.

  • socal4hill

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/michelle-obama-tapes-imminent-release-approaching-api-in-a-serious-negotiation-with-fox-news-on-the-best-way-forward/

    API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.

    API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day – the 4th of November.

    API will make use of Legal Representation in the US when finalising the hand-over of the tapes and on any�legal matters that may arise after the contents of the tapes become public.

    We want to thank all our readers – those who have managed to be patient and also those who have exhibited total impatience. We assure them that an agreement will be reached soon between API and FOX NEWS one way or another, so that API fulfills the promise it gave to the readers.

  • CJ

    JanH Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Colmes has got to be the most stupid and obnoxious men in the world masquerading as a journalist

    I agree jan arrogant and stupid…his explaning and his rambling makes me mute him offf..and he is plain ole Nonsense..I hope they fire HIM
    I think hannity needs a sidekick

  • wbboei

    there is a lot of doubt out there about the staffer attack and some posters calling it a hoax. i still beleive it. here’s anothe take.
    —————————————-
    Those posters are idiots. We need to wait and see what the police investigation shows. Bambi supporters should keep their powder dry pending completion of the investigation. That is not in their nature but for once in their lives they need to exercise a little self restraint–and grow up. The fact that the College Republicans vouch for the photo is one factor. It would be a mistake for them to do so if they had doubts. But that is not dispositive. The professionals will evalutate the story for internal consistency and whether it comports with the law of probability. They also evaluate her credibility. With or without it the pattern I described above is highly problematic.

  • bluegirl

    Shorttermer, no I’m not the bluegirl from pumapac. I don’t go there. And yes, I live in the “T” of PA. I’m in central PA.

    I’ve just been getting pretty much caught up with the posts since I was in earlier today, and I want to thank everyone for all your comments to mine.

    They were all very much appreciated. Smiley face here, lol.

  • wbboei

    socal4hill: good job.

  • JanH

    CJ,

    It’s just that he cuts everyone off. If he doesn’t like what they are saying about his messiah, he rudely cuts in and ridicules them.

    Hannity does need a new partner…sigh.

  • bluegirl

    Jan H. I don’t like Colmes either. I don’t like the looks of him and he really irritates me to no end, lol. I wish they would take him off and just let Sean do the show.

  • PaminPA

    Good Evening All:
    Just returned from a campaign wine & cheese party for a local congressman and thought I’d pass along the scuttlebutt. (Mind you, I don’t know these people so I can’t weigh the veracity of their comments, but I thought it was interesting that they’re talking about the same things we are!) The 3 topics of conversation were: 1) Will McCain win PA (no surprise there), 2) What’s happening with the Berg case and, 3) Why the big BHO media buy next week.
    The feeling is that McCain can take PA but it will be a real squeaker and HRC & WJC have to stay out of the state. Rendell’s lukewarm endorsement of BHO will help and, of course, Murtha & Biden are the gifts that keep on giving.
    There’s alot of interest in the Berg case, partly because it’s a local suit but also because no one can figure out why BHO didn’t just present the certified copy and be done with it instead of hiring attorneys. The feeling is that there’s something definitely there that may be difficult to explain to Joe Public. It may not be enough to disqualify him, but enough to bring his patriotism into question AGAIN. One thing everyone was concerned about was that questions regarding this issue should NOT be brought up by the McCain camp in case it’s a trap. (Frankly, I never thought of this angle.)
    There were a few different thoughts about the big media buy next week. The most obvious was that he needed the time to seal the deal which he’s been unable to do. Another thought was that the time would be needed to fend off/defend an October surprise. (This person also said that there would be no October surprise until AFTER his tv show to ensure there was little time to refute it.) A few people thought he was going to discuss his dual citizenship issue.
    Some of this stuff sounds a little too conspiratorial to me but, given what we’ve seen thus far, nothing would surprise me.
    Again, take it all with a grain of salt.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Wow, as usually, you ask a question on this blog, and you get an expert answer. Thank you.

    Socal4hill, I sure hope it comes out soon. But then for us it is old news. Isn’t the NYTs getting ready to hit McCain’s wife? That might be in retalization for the release about MO.

    Thus they would seem to try to neutralize the news.

  • turndownobama-com

    # basil9 Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 6:21 pm
    i didn’t want to post andy martin’s newest theory but since you’ve brought it up, the rumor is bo was frank davis’s and anne durhams lovechild.
    =========

    Er, isn’t Davis a US citizen? That sort of shoots the non-citizen BO thing in the foot, doesn’t it?

    Not veyr confidence inspiring — if Martin is really the source of this.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Talk to you all tomorrow.

  • wbboei

    It’s just that he cuts everyone off. If he doesn’t like what they are saying about his messiah, he rudely cuts in and ridicules them.
    ————————————–
    That is because he has the attention span of a flea. If he does not cut in he forgets what he is thinking. I believe Hannity loves having him as a partner, just as much as Putin would love to have Bambi as his opposite number. In both cases they would prefer to have a weak opponent than a strong one. It is the law of the jungle.

  • harriet brinker

    What is up with Jerome Corsi?
    Regarding the Jewish votes for Obama, It is my understanding that many of these voters are afraid to be called a racist if they admit who they will really vote for. People by nature are afraid.
    Protecting Israel has always been the number one reason not to vote for Obama. Biden indicates that is the first place Obama is going to.

  • bluegirl

    PaminPA, thanks for that info.

  • bluegirl

    Night everyone.

  • JanH

    I cannot understand why any Jewish person would even consider voting for this empty shell of a man. The lessons of the 2nd world war should be brought into focus here. They do not want this friend of terrorists to be in charge of, what has been to date, Israel’s closest ally.

    I am praying that come election day, they will do what is right.

  • djia

    BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING!

    Democrat: Obama’s grandma confirms Kenyan birth
    ‘This has been a real sham he’s pulled off for the last 20 months’
    Posted: October 23, 2008
    11:33 pm Eastern

    Philip J. Berg

    The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualifications to run for the office of president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator’s paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

    The issue of Obama’s birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his “Certification of Live Birth” from Hawaii.

    But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged, a publicized newspaper notice announcing Obama’s birth in Honolulu could have been faked and he has a tape recording he will be releasing over the next few days.

    “This has been a real sham he’s pulled off for the last 20 months,” Berg told Savage. “I’ll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States.”
    He said the telephone call was from Obama’s paternal grandmother affirming she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.”

    Berg said he’s pursuing the issue because of “the most important document in the United States,” the U.S. Constitution.

    “Nothing is more important than enforcing the Constitution,” he said. “The Constitution’s provisions are very small for qualifying for president. One, be over 35, and he is. Two, be in the country 14 years and he has been. Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not.”

    Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they’ve declined to return WND requests for comment on the issues.

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931

  • djia

    October 24, 2008
    McCain for President
    By Charles Krauthammer

    WASHINGTON — Contrarian that I am, I’m voting for John McCain. I’m not talking about bucking the polls or the media consensus that it’s over before it’s over. I’m talking about bucking the rush of wet-fingered conservatives leaping to Barack Obama before they’re left out in the cold without a single state dinner for the next four years.

    I stand athwart the rush of conservative ship-jumpers of every stripe — neo (Ken Adelman), moderate (Colin Powell), genetic/ironic (Christopher Buckley) and socialist/atheist (Christopher Hitchens) — yelling “Stop!” I shall have no part of this motley crew. I will go down with the McCain ship. I’d rather lose an election than lose my bearings.

    First, I’ll have no truck with the phony case ginned up to rationalize voting for the most liberal and inexperienced presidential nominee in living memory. The “erratic” temperament issue, for example. As if McCain’s risky and unsuccessful but in no way irrational attempt to tactically maneuver his way through the economic tsunami that came crashing down a month ago renders unfit for office a man who demonstrated the most admirable equanimity and courage in the face of unimaginable pressures as a prisoner of war, and who later steadily navigated innumerable challenges and setbacks, not the least of which was the collapse of his campaign just a year ago.

    McCain the “erratic” is a cheap Obama talking point. The 40-year record testifies to McCain the stalwart.

    Nor will I countenance the “dirty campaign” pretense. The double standard here is stunning. Obama ran a scurrilous Spanish-language ad falsely associating McCain with anti-Hispanic slurs. Another ad falsely claimed McCain supports “cutting Social Security benefits in half.” And for months Democrats insisted that McCain sought 100 years of war in Iraq.

    McCain’s critics are offended that he raised the issue of William Ayers. What’s astonishing is that Obama was himself not offended by William Ayers.

    Moreover, the most remarkable of all tactical choices of this election season is the attack that never was. Out of extreme (and unnecessary) conscientiousness, McCain refused to raise the legitimate issue of Obama’s most egregious association — with the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Dirty campaigning, indeed.

    The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism. An apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. A nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation. A rising Russia pushing the limits of revanchism. Plus the sure-to-come Falklands-like surprise popping out of nowhere.

    Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who’s been cramming on these issues for the last year, who’s never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateralism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of “a world that stands as one”), and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as “the tragedy of 9/11,” a term more appropriate for a bus accident?

    Or do you want a man who is the most prepared, most knowledgeable, most serious foreign policy thinker in the United States Senate? A man who not only has the best instincts, but has the honor and the courage to, yes, put country first, as when he carried the lonely fight for the surge that turned Iraq from catastrophic defeat into achievable strategic victory?

    There’s just no comparison. Obama’s own running mate warned this week that Obama’s youth and inexperience will invite a crisis — indeed a crisis “generated” precisely to test him. Can you be serious about national security and vote on Nov. 4 to invite that test?

    And how will he pass it? Well, how has he fared on the only two significant foreign policy tests he has faced since he’s been in the Senate? The first was the surge. Obama failed spectacularly. He not only opposed it. He tried to denigrate it, stop it and, finally, deny its success.

    The second test was Georgia, to which Obama responded instinctively with evenhanded moral equivalence, urging restraint on both sides. McCain did not have to consult his advisers to instantly identify the aggressor.

    Today’s economic crisis, like every other in our history, will in time pass. But the barbarians will still be at the gates. Whom do you want on the parapet? I’m for the guy who can tell the lion from the lamb.
    letters@charleskrauthammer.com

  • AmericanGal

    Love the Krauthammer article..I hope more will speak out in opinion pieces over the next week..

  • djia

    Obama Race Baiting Interview From 1995 Revealed, Will Media Ignore?
    By John Stephenson | October 24, 2008

    Listen to this audio from a 1995 interview where Obama says a blatant race baiting statement implying that whites don’t want to pay taxes to inner city children for them to go to school. The interview is full of defense on Obama’s socialistic views on taxation, and other controversial remarks.

    It took the “new media” and blogs to dig this information up. This would have never seen the light of day if it were left up to the mainstream media. Now that it has been brought into the light, will the media pick up their fumbled ball and run with it? I doubt it, but perhaps if enough blogs report on it they can be shamed into doing so. They won’t report on this unless they have to.

    newsbusters.org/

  • djia

    Video of Obama RAce Baiting interview from 1995

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fi8STNlxM

  • confloyd

    djia, where did you get that info, I hope he does play the tape in a couple of days, someone needs to put an end to this fiasco the democrats have perpetuated on the American people. Pls play the tapes!!

  • turndownobama-com

    # Idunn Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Thats a couple of shiners right there, notice the B is backwards, why do it backwards.

    My guess is that he was standing behind her head and leaned over. Thus, the “b” is backwards on her face, but would have been correct from his p.o.v.
    ==========

    Makes sense. If there was a prone body, the easiest way to get at the face would be from behnd the head.

  • Emjay

    wbboei

    just got out of an unannounced Windows update which was going when I found this…

    one of the 4 parts of Gigi’s film–the other thing I was trying to pass on.

    This is the sharpest of the videos and has the other 3 parts available on sight as well.

    Once you get there, be warned, this is the most compelling I think…but it is probably best to watch them in order, 1-4.

    Part 3 of “We Will Not Be Silenced.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8&eurl

  • alcina

    pretty quiet out there, boys and girls. calm before the storm?

  • Kingsgrove

    ABC’s Cynthia McFadden (Unsuccessfully) tries to bait Hillary into attacking Palin

    transcript:

    h t t p : / / newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2008/10/23/cynthia-mcfadden-clinton-comparisons-palin-must-rankle-you

  • turndownobama-com

    wbboei and others,

    GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN: It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.

    MCFADDEN: Does she deserve, does she have the right to stand on your shoulders in this regard?

    CLINTON: You know what, I think we all stand on other people’s shoulders. I believe that you can hold two thoughts simultaneously. You can hold the thought that she’s an extraordinary woman. But that doesn’t mean that she and John McCain should lead our country. For a million reasons that I think people understand.

    MCFADDEN: But it must rankle you, I mean, to be compared to Sarah Palin.

    CLINTON: It doesn’t. None of this rankles me at all. I mean it really doesn’t.

    MCFADDEN: You said something just a moment ago downstairs that I must say made sit up straighter.

    CLINTON: [Speech clip]: You know, I didn’t set out to run as a woman for president, but that’s the only way I could run. [Clip ends] Well, I was really saying, you know, I didn’t consider myself the woman candidate. Although obviously I was. I mean, that’s who I am. But as I got into the campaign and realized that’s how people were seeing me, for better or for worse in some situations, that there was this historical burden that I was carrying, that I had not anticipated. It became apparent that there’s a lot of unfinished business in our country when it comes to gender.

    h t t p : / / newsbusters.org/comment/reply/25532#comment-form

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    This ‘historical burden’ sounds like the ‘narrative’ I was mumbling about yesterday(?).

  • Kingsgrove

    A little comic relief this morning…….

    The McCain/Obama dance-off

    http://view.break.com/592648