Carpenters And Plumbers Against Barack Obama

Contrary to the belief of Obama worshippers, the real Christian Messiah is not a fast-talking Chicago politician. The real Christian Messiah is an unlicensed carpenter.

For the McCain Campaign, the savior might be an unlicensed plumber. Michael Barone hints that The Plumber might be the McCain “gamechanger”:

Can Joe Wurzelbacher, Joe the Plumber from Ohio, change the course of this campaign? That’s one question that was raised at the third presidential debate. Wurzelbacher is the man who, in a moment caught on YouTube, confronts Barack Obama on his plan to raise taxes on people like him. Obama, sotto voce, replies that he wants to “spread the wealth around.” In the third consecutive week in which the headlines of the financial crisis have prompted both candidates to denounce “Wall Street greed,” the image of those whom Obama would tax higher was suddenly not an investment banker but a plumber. [snip]

In three debates, the spin artists go on, Obama has shown that he more than meets the minimal standards for the office, as Ronald Reagan did in the single debate in 1980, and in a year like that one, in which most voters want the in party out, that will be enough. But the 1980 debate was on the Thursday before the election, and the decisive swing came over the weekend. Voters took almost every minute they could. Will they take more time this year, and give some thought to Joe the Plumber?

Whether it is Americans recovering from the rapid and varied economic shocks of the past few weeks and/or Joe – The Plumber, the latest polls show the race is once again tightening. Gallup “Traditional” (a.k.a. a typical and traditional sample of Americans) and Gallup “Expanded” (a.k.a. the pro-Obama adjustment) have the race at 2% and 4%, respectively.

We suspect the savage attacks against average citizen Joe – The Plumber, for merely asking a question, by Obama and Biden personally, as well as attacks by Obama thugs on Big Blogs and Big Media are reminding voters of the “You’re likeable enough, Hillary” episode which revealed to many Americans the real nature of Barack Obama’s character.

John McCain, as we suggested, is defending Joe – The Plumber. John McCain says Barack Obama’s Out To Flush Joe The Plumber:

Forget Joe the Plumber. Now it’s Joe the Martyr.

That’s how John McCain made it sound Friday as he accused Democrats of smearing the nation’s most famous unlicensed plumber, Ohioan Joe Wurzelbacher.

The response from Sen. [Barack] Obama and his campaign yesterday was to attack Joe,” he said in Miami. “People are digging through his personal life, and he has TV crews camped out in front of his house.”

McCain made “Joe the Plumber” a talking point at the final debate because he gave Obama an earful of skepticism about the Democrat’s tax plans.

Since then, reporters and bloggers have reported Wurzelbacher lacks a plumbing license and has a $1,200 tax lien against him.

He didn’t ask for Sen. Obama to come to his house,” said McCain. “He wasn’t recruited or prompted by our campaign. He just asked a question. And Americans ought to be able to ask Sen. Obama tough questions without being smeared.”

Obama’s No. 2 Joe Biden, appearing on Jay Leno’s show, also had zinged that he’s worried about “Joe the real plumber with a license.”

John McCain should keep on defending Joe – The Plumber for the next two weeks.

Barack Obama is about to find out that licensed or not, those carpenters and plumbers sure can cause a lot of trouble.

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445 thoughts on “Carpenters And Plumbers Against Barack Obama

  1. Great post, Admin!

    Obama went in for a staged photo-op and came out with more than egg on his face…lol… 😉

    Oh and welcome to the site, lisaque! 🙂

  2. Anyway…it’s odd how I came to land on Mutual Bank, because my first thought was Superior Bank. But I nixed that early on. Then, I turned my attention to Giannoulias…had to be Broadway Bank. But the one thing about this whole Rezko thing that’s been a nagging “chirp” was the Chicago Planning Commision. In this particular chapter of the saga, all things lead back to that. Allison Davis, Valerie Jarrett, etc. etc. So I googled the names associated with the banks I knew, along with “Chicago Planning Commision” and lo and behold…Amrish Mahajan !

    It’s all about the slumlords, baby. 🙂

  3. Admin: excellent posting as usual. This episode is a real game changer in the campaign. It reveals the true barack obama. What he told Joe is what lawyers call an admission against interest. His original plan was to hide the ball until after the election, but in a candid off guard comment the truth came tumbling out. The rest of the truth about how barack and his people are at the center of the mortage crisis is coming out to. As the critical mass of the American Public finally tune in they are reminded in every way and in every way BO is not the one they have been waiting for but may be instead their worst nightmare.

  4. I just got off the phone with a friend in Texas. He told me a story that reminds us of the power of nature. He had a summer house–a shack really in a place called Gulf Haven which is not too far from Galveston. He told me that the entire town has been levelled by a wave that was 25 feet high that came ashore at 110 miles per hour. They are still finding bodies. Bolivar Island is under marshall law. Yet another example of the censorship practiced by Big Media.

  5. I wasn’t aware there was ANY martial law in Texas. In fact…I never really heard much of anything about what’s going on in Texas after the hurricane. 🙁

  6. Admin,
    I hope you’re right and Joe is the game-changer.

    Wbboei,
    Sorry to hear about your friedn. i agree with Jan. how come we don’t hear anythng about Ike’s aftermath?

    On another (and for me – a positive) note, just want to share my great news. I got my lab results today and I am officially CURED! (99% accuracy)!!!!!! 😀 😆 😀

  7. On another (and for me – a positive) note, just want to share my great news. I got my lab results today and I am officially CURED! (99% accuracy)!!!!!!
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    great news basil.

  8. Basil that is great news.

    I early voted today. It is the first time in my voting life I have voted Rep. I did it across the board.

    I OWN MY VOTE.

  9. Thanks Wbboei, idunn and birdgal.

    I don’t want to take up too much time with my personal saga but you guys know i couldn’t have finished treatment without this site and since I’d mentioned it months ago I figured I should update y’all about that.

    YIPPPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!! 😀

    e

  10. How dare a measly plumber deign to ask the king a question? What the heck was he thinking? That this was a taping of: Are you smarter than a 5th grader or something? 😉

  11. basil,

    happy to hear your news!
    stay healthy, and excercise they say,
    helps keep the old machine strong enough to fight off what ails us….

  12. birdgal, jan, basil: on the damage there are some before and after arial shots he mentioned. I did not write down the website address. If I can get it I will post the link in case you are interested.

  13. rjk,

    I heard that earlier – what a crock.

    I just tuned into Huckabee and he’s got Joe on along with his son. Evidently Joe is divorced and fought for 9 years to get custody of the boy. Joe’s dad is it the audience too. It’s so sweet.
    Fer crying out loud – WTF is wrong with the obamathugs attacking that poor guy the way they did! It is unconscionable.
    But i gotta admit joe is VERy hot! 😉 I predict a new mrs. joe inhis future. s

  14. Like I said, these guys our a bunch of Marixt how have no problem going after the little person to keep them afraid of them.

    Obama is a bully and I hope people see him for what he truly is before it’s too late.

  15. carby, neetabug,

    Thanks guys.

    Well, joe was terrific on Huckabee but now Sharpton’s coming on to defend ACORN. 👿

  16. I liked when Huckabee said “you are not running for anything and you are being attacked, maybe you should run for office you have already gone thru it”. This poor guy has been vetted more than Obama has. How ironic.

  17. OMG!!!!!

    Huck has on 2 kids from Ohio who between them voted 100 times!!!!!!!!

    And they’re on national TV!!!!!!!

    WHOA!

  18. Basil9: Congratulation on your good news.I wish you along and healthy future.You are one brave person and I am sure your faith and your fight for life were rewarded.We need you.

    By ABM90

  19. OBAMA’s TAX PLAN – Penn & Teller and gang return to comment on Barack

    video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6074795183868307021&hl=en

  20. Well,

    i gotta admit Sharpton did a good job discussing ACORN. he came down solidly against it and voter fraud no matter which
    party is involved.

    BTW, Sharpie’s lost a lot of weight and is looking sharp! 😉

  21. If the media did their job like they are doing to Joe the plumber, with the Fraud, we would have had Hillary instead of the Fraud

  22. pm and ABM,

    I’m beginning to feel dumb for having blurted out my happy news but thank-you, thank-you, thank you.

    :mrgreen:

  23. neetabug,

    i STILL don’t get why BO turned on poor Joe like that. it wasn’t necessary. It was just so spiteful and vindictive. Why the heck would he say Jm is out there working for a plumber? A PLUMBER???? with such a tone of disgust.

    i really don’t understand.

  24. O is so arrogant, I am glad he said it, maybe this will make a lot of people think. Better him out there working for a plumber than to be working for O’s Ayers, Rezko etc

  25. ROTF!!!!!

    That Huckabee is a HAM! He’s playing bass on Aaron Tippetts song, Drill here, Drill Now and he’s rocking his butt off!

    D@mn that dimple is cute!

    (Ok ladies, i know, i know, but I’m in such a GREAT mood tonight everyone looks good to me ! (except HWNSNBS)

  26. It would take a team of psycho analysts to figure Obama out. He seems to think if you question him on anything that you are against him and strikes out against you.

  27. Neeta,
    I agree. And it was so friggin’ nasty! Many of the crafts people i know up here in the NYS boondocks are a helluvalot smarter than book men. Their skills and knowledge base are huge. I have never been able to understand how people could dismiss those who work with their hands. I have tremendous respect for the carpenters, electricians, masons, plumbers, landscapers I have come in contact with.

    At least they PRODUCE something! WTF do most of these lawyer/politician/financial/agitator types create except a lot of trouble for the rest of us. They’re parasites.

  28. Basil9,
    carpenters, electricians, masons, plumbers, landscapers

    These will be the ones who will take the fraud down.

  29. neetabug Says:
    October 18th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Basil9,
    carpenters, electricians, masons, plumbers, landscapers

    These will be the ones who will take the fraud down.

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    These are Hillary’s voters, if Bambi can’t bring them in , he’s screwed and by the looks of it, he’s not.

  30. neeta,

    Along with beauticians, farmers, landscapers, truckers, construction workers, nurses, bartenders, short-order cooks,
    cosmeticians . . . .

    the silenced majority.

    rjk,
    I’m listening to greta. great show.

  31. moonpluto,

    He just threw then all under the bus! 😈

    rjk,
    ROTF!!! Did you just hear that guy saying ACORn voters would take the registration forms, go home, smoke pot and fill them out?????

  32. except its not blowing over, Obama has attacked the working blue collar man with an american dream and he did it nastily, people don’t forget that.

  33. OMG!!!!

    ACORN says it only registered Freddie 15 TIMES!!!!!

    (not 73 as Freddie claims)

    ::shaking my head in disbelief::

  34. just what we need a bunch of crackheads and potheads, running the election offices and housing depts of govt, why doesnt Bambi just hire official columbian drug lords to supply the workers with vouchers.

  35. # neetabug Says:
    October 18th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Basil9,
    carpenters, electricians, masons, plumbers, landscapers

    These will be the ones who will take the fraud down.
    ============

    So crazy! The ads write themselves!

    All it needs is a few facts: maybe a graph of businesses that gross over 250k but have owners’ takehome less. And how many employees they’re supporting. And PICTURES of their owner-operators who work with their hands as well as hiring a few others.

    Let their voices say: “Share WHAT wealth? … My business supports X employees and I live [here – show modest house] on X profit.” Etc etc.

    “And share it with who? Acorn? Rezko?”

    “No way. You betcha.”

  36. basil9 Says:
    October 18th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    OMG!!!!

    ACORN says it only registered Freddie 15 TIMES!!!!!

    (not 73 as Freddie claims)

    ::shaking my head in disbelief::

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    Can someone point it out to them because obviously, the blow,weed and crack is diminishing the grey cells that more than once is a felony. I dont care if its 15 or 73, its a fucking felony.

  37. did you all, see the ticker, stating that the BO campaign is accusing the McCain campaign of sublimal racial stoking, by the use of the word “welfare?”

  38. Rush touched on Greta’s discoveries Friday. She noticed the Service Workers Union filed an Amicus brief supporting Ohio SOS Jennifer Brunner’s appeal to the SCOTUS of the 6th Circuit’s ruling. Greta wondered why the Service Union would even be interested, let alone have an interest in Brunners appeal. Lo and behold. Greta discovers that the Service Workers Union was founded by onoe Wade Rathke – founder of ACORN. Curious, huh??

  39. What is their a dictionary of racially challenged words now. So what next Social Security is probably racist too.

  40. birdgal,

    Oh yeah. They’re sounding desperate, now. No one likes the welfare system, not even most of the people who use it.

    Ken Blackwell did a good job of challenging ACORN and stressing the importance of election integrity.

    greta also said that the 850G BO payment to ACORN now being questioned was originally reported as lighting and event services uinstead of GOTV efforts to the FEC.

  41. basil, lets state it for what it is, that 850 K was a pay off for services of stealing the election and payoffs to whoever was needed.

  42. JanH thank you for the welcome.

    Watching Greta so far so good, cant belive I watch Fox News I used to laugh about them and call them a joke. Now its the only news show I watch.

  43. New York Times, Larry Rohter“reports,” “According to public records, Mr. Wurzelbacher has been subject to two liens, each over $1,100.

    One, with a hospital, has been settled, but a tax lien with the State of Ohio is still outstanding.”

    The other press obomabots: Bloomberg also has a story on the tax lien, and AP and The Washington Post did a hit job on him. He’s not even a candidate.

    Newsbusters.org : How many stories did they do on Obama as a deadbeat, his property that a crook bought for him, and that it took 17 years and some scrutiny from a small town newspaper before Obama paid his civil court debt of 400 dollars.

  44. Let’s take up a collection for Joe the Plumber. Geez. How many people have fallen behind in tax payments?

  45. The guy is a single father bringing up a 13yr old boy, so, he has problems paying a hospital bill, who has’nt, so what his taxes are behind, its not exactly like Obama’s friend Rangel who dodged 110,000 dollars worth.

    If anything, this guy is exactly what the average voter is, has tax problems, has bill problems, struggling to bring his family up and working every hour he can get to give his kid a good and what does he get, some asshole badgering him in his own front lawn, when Joe asks a question, said asshole responds flippantly, asshole gets caught on tv, average Joe calls out said asshole and said asshole responds with nasty vindictive cruelty.

  46. birdgal Says:

    October 18th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
    Let’s take up a collection for Joe the Plumber. Geez. How many people have fallen behind in tax payments?

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    I am willing. Although i bet someone will pay if off.

  47. birdgal,

    I was behind once coz the bank never notified me and never paid the 3rd quarter taxes from the escrow.

    I just hope someone’s helping him now that he’s all over the talking heads, interviewed on huckabee, GMA, etc. I feel sorry for the guy.

    Moon,
    Bambi is a welfare queen! LMAO!

  48. Funny I dont see big media attacking Obama for breaking the law.

    Before Barack Obama was a United States senator and a presidential hopeful, he was a Harvard University law student living in Somerville who parked in bus stops and accumulated hundreds of dollars in parking tickets. And for nearly two decades those parking tickets went unpaid, until a representative of Obama’s settled all his outstanding debts with Cambridge’s Traffic, Parking and Transportation Department Jan. 26.

    Obama attended Harvard Law School from 1988 to 1991. During his time at Harvard, Obama lived at 365 Broadway in Somerville, according to his parking tickets. Records from the Cambridge Traffic, Parking and Transportation office show that between Oct. 5, 1988 and Jan. 12, 1990 Obama was cited for 17 traffic violations, sometimes committing two in the same day. The abuses included parking in a resident permit area, parking in a bus stop and failing to pay the meter. Twelve of Obama’s 17 tickets were given to him on Massachusetts Avenue.

    In one eight day stretch in 1988, Obama was cited seven times for parking violations and was fined $45. Thirteen of the 17 violations occurred within one month in 1988.

    Obama’s disobedience of the rules of the road earned him $140 in fines from the City of Cambridge. The tickets went unpaid for over 17 years and $260 in late fees were added to the tab. On Jan. 26, the fines and late fees were paid in full. The final tally for Obama’s parking breaches was $400, according to Cambridge Traffic, Parking and Transportation.

    Obama spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said the presidential candidate’s parking violations were not relevant.

    “He didn’t owe that much and what he did owe, he paid,” Psaki said. “Many people have parking tickets and late fees. All the parking tickets and late fees were paid in full.”

  49. Yeah but come on, not paying parking tickets for 17 years, the man is a putz, he obviously thought he was above it back then too, parked wherever he liked.

  50. Moon: My comment was before yours. The man is a putz. 17 years is too long to go without paying tickets. Another symptom of arrogance, condescension, and entitlement.

  51. An excellent in-depth article by Cannon about Ayers. He submitted it to Factcheck.

    cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/10/ultimate-guide-to-ayers-controversy.html

  52. Seems like the NYT has a hit piece coming out about Cindy McCain, digging into her prescription drug problems, her miscarriages and her charities. They also CONTACTED her 16 year old daughter, bridget, via Facebook and asked her to describe what her mother was like!!!!!!

    The Times honored BO’s demand that the media ‘lay off his wife” but have no scruples about JM’s wife.

    JM campaign responded by calling it ‘gutter journalism.”
    Isn’t the Times supposed to endorse THAT ONE tomorrow?

  53. Dont worry its print media and the NYtimes circulation is dropping like a stone, it does not have the influence it once had. I personally wouldnt line the cats litter tray with it.

  54. Greta is tearing the Ayers/ACORN connection to shreds.

    Moon,

    Who TOOK the footage of Joe and who turned it into the press? Anyone know? Is that legal, to tape someone without their knowledge and then air it? Do they have to get permission, first?

  55. Funny I dont see big media attacking Obama for breaking the law
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    Nor will you. But there is a good reason for this. According to political philosopher Thomas Hobbes the sovereign is above the law. Normally one does not become the sovereign until a coronation ceremony takes place. In this case the slavish big media dispensed with ceremony and coronated him on sight, and have squandered their crediblilty defending that foolish decision.

  56. The local crew who were following obama on his block tour when Obama went up to Joe and asked him some questions and thats how it all began, Plumber joe was playing football with his son when Bambi showed up.

  57. Idunn

    BMerry would be soooo proud!

    I feel like she still comes here for rejuvenation- though she gave so much more than she ever took.

    Here’s to you Merry !!

    And to you, holy water girl…and to the hubby who occasionally lets you hog the computer–good on ya sir !

  58. To hear ACORN dispute the charge that they registered the same individual 73 times by saying he was only registered 15 times proves they are innocent of any malfeasce here. I am sure Arriana would have no problem with it as long as the fraud benefits her lite o love bambi.

  59. By the way, when I voted today, there were challengers. I asked the party, and she said neither. Not sure what that meant.

    I also saw a small box full of provisional ballots which appeared to be made out, sitting on a desk out in the open.

  60. birdgal

    me too, the lien – result of Reaganomics, resulting Fed job loss,
    divorce…sheet happens…figure it will get paid when I die and the property is sold.

  61. If the NYT is digging up old info on Cindy, they are digging for crumbs. Her prescription drug abuse was discussed during a biography that was presented at the Republican Convention. They are trying to stir up s***. They have no business contacting the McCain’s 16 y/0 daughter.

  62. NewMexicoFan

    Provisional ballots out in the open? Did you question it? If something on the provisional envelope is wrong. They will trash it.

    I hope it was not a republican provisional ballot.

    You mark on the envelope Dem or Republican

    You can mess the envelope up by marking one thing wrong or eliminating something on the envelope.

    They will not open the envelope to get the ballot if there is anything marked wrong on the envelope

    This election is such a fraud.

  63. I just realized the Media will sell their SOULS to the DEVIL.

    But oh how they are going to get paid back BIG TIME

  64. neetabug.

    I could not tell. I just saw them on a desk in a box. I was not running the voting site, and did not think I had the authority to call them out.

    When I was working a early voting site 2 years ago, those provisionals were locked up. I guess these could have been spoiled. But I would have thought they would have been locked up also.

  65. I thought they had to be put into the ballot box just like the ballots. That is the way they are done here. The person voting drops it into the ballot box.

  66. I see Obama is desperate…he had two 100 thousand rallies in MO…St. Louis and Kansas city.

    I wonder how long it took him to set it up…that’s not special…what is special is Sarah Palin getting over 75,000 to attend a retirement community in FL know that’s big news nobody was expecting it.

    The Democratic? Taliban Party are worried about the election and the close nature of it….they want BO to be at double digits but being tied or McCain being close is horrible for them.

    Go McCain/Palin 08

    Remember what Obama and the Dems did to Joe the Plummer and anybody who challenges them…go out to destroy a American voter.

  67. Neetabug

    That is what I would have thought also. I guess the only other thing is they might have been spoiled envelopes. But they did not look like it to me.

  68. New York Times, Larry Rohter“reports,” “According to public records, Mr. Wurzelbacher has been subject to two liens, each over $1,100.
    —————————————–
    We live in dangerous times. First, we have barack surrogate governor wilder threatening violence in Dever if barack is not the nominee. Second, we hear barack surrogate jesse jackson junior repeat that same threat. Third, we hear that rome may be real trouble in our country if the voters reject barack. Bad as it is I can live with it.

    But when I hear that we have unlicensed plummers with 1100 tax liens roaming our streets looking for work I realize things have gone too far. We must have civil order and public safety. We are just lucky to have ace reporters like Larry to dig through garbage cans, toilets and musty archives to come up with vital information. Without it we would all be lost.

  69. New Mexico Fan

    These ballots are not looked at until election day.

    Let hope they were spoiled envelopes, and they all voted for the Fraud

  70. Todd Palin, Governor Rendell Campaign In Western Pennsylvania
    Saturday, October 18, 2008

    PITTSBURGH — There was a lot of political activity in western Pennsylvania on Saturday.

    It started in Greensburg Saturday morning, when vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, held a meet and greet breakfast at a campaign office.

    From there he went to a “Sportsmen for McCain” event in North Versailles where he met with voters.

    Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell stopped in Homewood on Saturday afternoon, to help kick off a canvassing event in support of democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

    It was also announced Saturday the republican presidential candidate John McCain will return to the area on Tuesday for a rally in Moon Township.

    http://www.wpxi.com/politics/17753870/detail.html

  71. basil

    Went upthread as is my habit when I get behind and found your news …

    I used the rest of my kleenex dearheart, and now all I can say is:

    GET THE FLOCK SOME RED OR BLACK BERRIES, FIRST THING.

    and a freedom fly on the porch, in the sun.

    For serious…I am delerious…for you.

  72. I see Obama is desperate…he had two 100 thousand rallies in MO…St. Louis and Kansas city
    ——————————————–
    It was just one of those things
    Just one of those marvelous things
    A trip to the moon
    On gossimer wings

    If we thought of it
    Of the end of it
    When we started painting the town
    We’d have been aware
    That our love affair
    WAS TOO DARN HOT
    NOT TO COOL DOWN

    (Just One Of Those Things–Cole Porter)

  73. Acorn Working on Deal to Sever Ties With Founder
    By STEPHANIE STROM
    Even as it battles charges of fraudulent voter registration practices in several states, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn, is negotiating to sever all ties with its founder, whose brother embezzled almost $1 million from the group.

    Two board members and Bertha Lewis, the organization’s interim chief organizer, or chief executive, met last week in New Orleans to hammer out a deal with the founder, Wade Rathke, according to board members who learned Tuesday of the talks. Mr. Rathke resigned as chief organizer after it became public this summer that his brother Dale had embezzled almost $1 million from the organization eight years ago.

    Mr. Rathke retained control of Acorn International, however, and maintained its offices in buildings in New Orleans shared by Acorn and many of its 174 affiliates. Foundations that support Acorn financially, as well as many of the 51 voting members of its board, have been critical of that arrangement, saying it allows Mr. Rathke to retain his influence over the organization.

    The deal, as described by board members, would hand Mr. Rathke control of the Wal-Mart Alliance for Reform Now, or WARN, an Acorn affiliate that focuses on what it considers to be unfair labor practices and other issues at Wal-Mart, and a radio station in Texas that is one of five media companies affiliated with Acorn, according to board members critical of the negotiations.

    Ms. Lewis said there was no such deal and described the meeting as “a discussion.”

    “Not to cast aspersions on your sources, but they’re always a little bit off,” she said. “We discussed about 60 different corporations. WARN came up, Acorn International came up, but we didn’t even discuss the radio stations.”

    She said the various options for divorcing Mr. Rathke from Acorn would be presented to the board at its next meeting, which starts Friday. Mr. Rathke did not respond to an e-mail message seeking comment.

    Some board members from a group of dissidents calling itself the Acorn 8 questioned the meeting. The group has demanded access to financial records and a forensic audit to review Acorn’s accounting and financial records during the period the embezzlement was covered up.

    Two of its members, Marcel Reid and Karen Inman, who also sit on the interim management committee that the board appointed to govern Acorn after the embezzlement scandal, filed a lawsuit in August seeking to break the Rathkes’ ties to the organization, as well as protect financial records from destruction and enhance board access to documents. They said the negotiations with Mr. Rathke were an end run around the board, a charge that Acorn has leveled against their lawsuit.

    “I object to this, in part,” Ms. Inman said, “because the board was not told about these negotiations, but mainly because we have no idea what the assets held by those entities are because management has refused to do a forensic audit.”

    Ms. Lewis said the two board members involved in the talks were assigned the task by the board’s executive committee, which is charged with making decisions between the board’s two annual meetings.

    Coya Mobley, one of the dissidents, still questioned their participation. “The executive board is only supposed to act in the event of an emergency, and this was not an emergency,” Ms. Mobley said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/us/16acorn.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

  74. Admin, thanks for another pithy and insightful article. I also hope that we’ll soon see Rev. Right and Tony Rezko again.

    Basil9 – thanks for sharing your good news with your Hillfriends. Congratulations!

  75. Remember what Obama and the Dems did to Joe the Plummer and anybody who challenges them…go out to destroy a American voter.
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    Carby-I have finally discovered what change means:

    1. dig up dirt on your opponent

    2. blackmail your opponent

    3. call your opponent a racist

    4. mount legal challenge to candidacy

    5. disenfrachise opponent voters

    6. enfranchise ineligible voters

    7. rig paperless voting machine

    8. threaten civil disorder if dont win

    9. suggest racism only reason to not vote for you

    10. attack critics unmercifully

    Q: does this sound like anyone you know?

  76. Prop. 8 battle rages over whether gay marriage would be taught in schools

    Proponents say defeat of the measure would lead to such lessons. Foes cry fear-mongering and say there’s no mention of marriage in the ballot item. The reality is complicated.

    Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    6:21 PM PDT, October 18, 2008

    It was supposed to be a quick, 90-minute excursion, a noontime field trip for a group of San Francisco charter school students and their parents to see the kids’ lesbian teacher marry her partner in a wedding performed by Mayor Gavin Newsom.

    But after the event was reported in the San Francisco Chronicle and picked up by cable television and the Internet, the first-graders at Creative Arts Charter School found themselves at the center of the hottest battle in the campaign over gay marriage: the question of whether failure to pass Proposition 8 would result in widespread classroom discussions of same-sex unions.

    Supporters of the constitutional amendment, under which marriage would be defined as only between a man and a woman, contend that if Proposition 8 does not pass, gay marriage will be taught in public schools. “We are already seeing that happen,” said Frank Schubert, campaign manger for Yes on 8.

    The opposing side insists that this is fear-mongering and notes that there is no mention of schools or curriculum in the language of the proposition.

    “They just made something up in order to scare people and change the subject,” said Shannon Minter, legal director for the National Center for Lesbian Rights.

    To buttress their case, Proposition 8 supporters point to a legal decision out of Massachusetts, where same-sex couples have been able to wed since 2004. After a second-grade teacher in Lexington read a book to her students that included two princes marrying, the parents of a child in the class sued the school district.

    The parents, devout Christians who oppose gay marriage, contended that the teacher had read the book to her class “for the express purpose of indoctrinating them into the concept that homosexuality and marriage between same-sex partners is moral.” This, they said, intruded on their “right to direct the moral upbringing of their own children.”

    A federal court dismissed the case, finding it without merit, and earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal of the dismissal, letting the lower court’s ruling stand.

    The child’s parents will be featured in a new Proposition 8 ad that will begin airing this week.

    School districts and the California Department of Education, meanwhile, are getting a steady stream of calls from the media and parents wanting to know whether gay marriage will be taught in schools if Proposition 8 is defeated.

    The answer, it turns out, is slightly more complicated than can be captured in the 30-second television advertisements put out by both sides.

    There is nothing in the state education code that requires schools to teach anything about marriage. Even the decision about whether to offer comprehensive sex education is left up to individual school districts.

    What state law does require is that districts that offer sex education “teach respect for marriage and committed relationships.”

    Districts have taken different approaches.

    The Los Angeles Unified School District offers ninth-graders a “Life Skills” class that deals with a variety of issues, including personal identity and relationships. A district spokeswoman said marriage is not a specific part of that curriculum but could come up as part of classroom discussion.

    In Fresno, meanwhile, district policy is that teachers do not address the subject of gay marriage in the classroom; students who ask about it are told to raise the issue with their families, district officials said.

    Hilary McLean, spokeswoman for Jack O’Connell, the state superintendent of public instruction, said she was unaware of any district that had changed its curriculum as a result of the California Supreme Court’s May ruling allowing same-sex marriage.

    Still, recognizing how politically potent the issue is, the Yes on 8 campaign has made it the center of its television advertising campaign.

    “Mom, guess what I learned in school today?” a little girl says in one spot. “I learned how a prince married a prince.”

    As the girl’s mother makes a horrified face, a voice says: “Think it can’t happen? It’s already happened. . . . Teaching about gay marriage will happen unless we pass Proposition 8.”

    In response, the No on 8 side put out an ad called “Proponents of Proposition 8 Are Using Lies to Scare You.”

    As television screens flicker Big Brother-like in the background, a voice says: “Prop. 8 will not affect teaching in schools.”

    To counter that, the Yes on 8 side issued a blast e-mail last week titled, “Who Is Really Lying,” which accused the No on 8 side of wanting gay marriage to be taught, “the earlier the better.”

    In San Francisco, Newsom said he didn’t know the schoolchildren would be attending their teacher’s wedding, and a spokesman for the mayor said he does not endorse the idea of children leaving school to go to weddings — no matter who is getting married.

    “First-graders should be in class during the day,” said Nathan Ballard, communications director for Newsom.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gayschools19-2008oct19,0,6474352.story
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    I don’t understand how that teacher was able to get permission for the 1st grade students to attend her gay wedding and why she would involve her students.

  77. changed a few names but here’s your laugh for the night
    ……………
    As a NObama bot was driving down the freeway, his cell phone rang.

    Answering, he heard NObama’s voice urgently warning him, “Chris, I just heard on the news that there’s a car going the wrong way on Route 280. Please be careful!”

    “It’s not just one car,” said Chris M, “It’s hundreds of them!”

  78. The polls are within the margin of error, the hang-up rate is over 50%, democrats are being oversampled and there is the bradley effect.

    Nevertheless Bambi and his media whores are telling the public that the race is over and he is on to planning his victory celebration. Wrong!

    In the fall of 1951 Douglas Mac Arthur was assuring newsmen since the Inchon landing the enemy forces had been routed and he would have the boys home by Christmas. Wrong!

    Rumors of my untimely death have been greatly exaggerated–Mark Twain.

  79. Cindy McCain is letting the NYT have it. Her letter from her lawyer to the NYT. Its on Greta wire.

    Dear Mr. Keller:

    I represent Cindy McCain. I write to appeal to your sense of fairness, balance and decency in deciding whether to publish another story about her. I do this well knowing your obvious bias for Barack Obama and your obvious bias hostility to John McCain. I ask you to put your biases and agendas aside.

    I understand that Cindy is in the public eye, but you have already profiled her extensively (Jennifer Steinhauer reported), written about her financial situation (including an editorial on her tax returns) and about her role at Hensley and Company.

    I am advised that you assigned two of your top investigative reporters who have spent an extensive amount of time in Arizona and around the country investigating Cindy’s life including her charity, her addiction and her marriage to Senator McCain. None of these subjects are news.

    I am also advised that your reporters are speaking to Tom Gosinski and her cousin Jamie Clark, neither of whom are reliable or credible sources. Mr. Gosinski has been publicly exposed as a liar and blackmailer on the subject of Cindy McCain. Jamie Clark has very serious drug and stability issues and has failed in a number of attempts to blackmail Cindy. She is simply not credible.

    In 1994, Mr. Gosinski drafted a civil complaint for damages claiming, among other things, that Cindy had defamed him with prospective employers after he was discharged from AVMT. Those allegations were utterly false. He was unable to produce any prospective employers and Cindy had not discussed his deficiencies as an employee with anyone outside of AVMT. Indeed, his termination was demonstrated to be appropriate and when he was let go, Cindy gave him severance pay. When confronted with this evidence, his lawyer resigned. Gosinski never filed the complaint in Court and could produce no evidence to support any of its allegations. He attempted to have Cindy pay him $250,000 in exchange for not filing the complaint. Cindy refused and made his attempt to extort her public.

    Thereafter, he amended his complaint to allege that Cindy asked him to commit perjury in the adoption proceed involving Bridget McCain. The notes of Cindy’s counsel and the official transcript of the adoption proceedings clearly demonstrate that Gosinski’s was never asked to lie and did not falsely testify in the proceeding. His allegation was an utter fabrication. Gosinski further alleged that Cindy used his name to obtain pain killers for her own personal use. The records of AVMT show that Dr. Max Johnson, licensed by the DEA to order drugs, directed the use of employee names on the prescriptions. The drugs obtained using Mr. Gosinski’s name were used and donated on an AVMT trip to El Salvador. They were not used by Cindy.

    These allegations and efforts to hurt Cindy have been a matter of public record for sixteen years. Cindy has been quite open and frank about her issues for all these years. Any further attempts to harass and injure her based on the information from Gosinski and Clark will be met with an appropriate response. While she may be in the public eye, she is not public property nor the property of the press to abuse and defame.

    It is worth noting that you have not employed your investigative assets looking into Michelle Obama. You have not tried to find Barack Obama’s drug dealer that he wrote about in his book, Dreams of My Father. Nor have you interviewed his poor relatives in Kenya and determined why Barack Obama has not rescued them. Thus, there is a terrific lack of balance here.

    I suggest to you that none of these subjects on either side are worthy of the energy and resources of The New York Times. They are cruel hit pieces designed to injure people that only the worst rag would investigate and publish. I know you and your colleagues are always preaching about raising the level of civil discourse in our political campaigns. I think taking some your own medicine is in order here.

    I ask you to let Cindy McCain carry on in her usual understated, selfless and dignified way. The fabrications and lies of blackmailers are not fit to print in any newspaper but particularly not in The New York Times.

    Sincerely,

    John M. Dowd

  80. moononpluto Says:

    October 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
    I have a good instinct that Obama’s mother was a fully fledged communist, thats where all of this came from, she brought him up to have communist tendancies, thats where all this is coming from. I think she hated America.

    One of her prime reasons for divorcing Soetoro was “He became more American,” she once said, “as she became more Javanese.”

    ====
    Great observation! I read an article lately that backs up your theory.

    about his mother:
    “Asked if he has always been a Christian, Obama replied: “I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.”[15]

    In fact she was never a Christian. Her parents were skeptics, she became a Marxist while attending a high school where The Communist Manifesto was taught, and she proudly identified herself as an atheist.[16] In a July 2008 interview, Obama admitted his mother “never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know.”[17]”

    The article:
    Obama’s Religious Ruse: ‘I’ve Always Been a Christian’
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_religious_ruse_ive_alwa.html

  81. Lin67@1:56: Dowd is a heavyweight with one of the most prestigeous law firms in the county. Not the kind of guy for NYT to mess with. Lots of judges have come out of that firm over the years and it has been at the forefront in political matters as you can see. Seems like Bob Strauss is with that firm as well.

    Career
    As of 2006 Dowd is a partner in the Washington, D.C. office law firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld.

    [edit] John McCain
    Dowd represented Senator John McCain (R-AZ) during the Senate Ethics Investigation known as the Keating 5 in the hearings held in 1990 and 1991. John McCain along with John Glenn received the mildest punishment of the 5 Senators, this may be a reflection partly of Dowd’s skill as a lawyer.

    [edit] Pete Rose investigation
    Dowd was the investigator and author of a report that led to the banning of Major League Baseball player Pete Rose. In his role as Special Counsel to the Commissioner, A. Bartlett Giamatti, he produced the Dowd Report which detailed Rose’s betting on baseball games in the 1980s, including teams Rose was managing at the time. The report led to Rose’s lifetime ban in August 1989. The current investigation issued by baseball commissioner Bud Selig led by George J. Mitchell has been compared to that led by Dowd.

    [edit] Monica M. Goodling
    Dowd is the lawyer representing Monica M. Goodling in her 5th Amendment challenge to speaking before Congress in regard to the firing of nine US Attorneys.

  82. I see Bob Strauss is listed in the letterhead. I always just think of it as Akin Gump but I see his name is the fourth one in. He was the Chairman of the Democratic Party and one time and someone I have admired, but never met.

  83. Barack Obama is a pathological liar:

    “Asked if he has always been a Christian, Obama replied: “I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.”[

    In a July 2008 interview, Obama admitted his mother “never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know.”[17]

  84. Basil said: I got my lab results today and I am officially CURED! (99% accuracy)!!!!!! 😀 😆 😀

    hip hip hooray!!!! CONGRATULATIONS BASIL!! 😀 😀 😀

  85. Sunday, October 19, 2008
    Obama Plummets Among Independents, Lead Down to Three Points

    h t t p : / / jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-plummets-among-independents-lead.html

  86. Joe Strikes back

    Joe Wurzelbacher, a plumber from Holland, Ohio, told Mike Huckabee on his Fox News talk show Saturday that he is upset by the attention and has been unable to work with reporters crowded on his front lawn.

    “The media’s worried about whether I’ve paid my taxes, they’re worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America,” Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, “Huckabee.”

    Wurzelbacher said he felt terrible after reading some of the criticism of himself posted online.

    “I felt about that small,” he said. “I mean I really did.”

    Republican presidential candidate John McCain has been portraying Wurzelbacher as emblematic of people with concerns about Obama’s tax plans.

    Wurzelbacher became famous after he met Obama and said the Democrat’s tax proposal could keep him from buying the two-man plumbing company where he works. However, reports of Wurzelbacher’s annual earnings suggest he would receive a tax cut rather than an increase under Obama’s plan.

    “You know, I am a plumber,” Wurzelbacher said. “Just a plumber.”

    Wurzelbacher said he agreed to appear on the show after he received phone calls from friends serving in the military who voiced their support.

    “You know, when you can’t ask a question of your leaders anymore, that gets scary,” he said.

    On Sunday, McCain was to travel to Ohio, where he might appear with Wurzelbacher.

  87. In response to the letter the Obama camp sent to the Justice Department, the McCain campaign has released this statement:

    “After a week of shifting stories and clumsy corrections regarding Barack Obama’s connections to ACORN, the Obama campaign resorted to their now-customary heavy handed tactic of attempting to criminalize political discourse. Today’s outrageous letter to Attorney General Mukasey and Special Prosecutor Dannehy at the Justice Department asking for a special prosecutor to investigate Senator McCain and Governor Palin’s public statements about ACORN’s record of fraudulent voter registrations (including in this week’s Presidential debate) is absurd. It is a typical time-worn Washington attempt to criminalize political differences. For someone who promises ‘change,’ it is certainly only more of the same.

    “The letter’s request that the Department of Justice investigate ‘recent partisan Republican activities throughout the country’ is almost a parody of the Obama campaign’s attempt to intimidate their political opponents. In case Sen. Obama’s lawyer did not notice, we are in the midst of a political campaign, not a coronation, and the alleged criminal activity he calls ‘recent partisan Republican activities’ are what the rest of us call campaign speeches and debates. All of this is unfortunately reminiscent of the Obama campaign’s recent creation of a ‘truth squad’ of Missouri prosecutors and sheriffs to ‘target’ people who criticize Sen. Obama. Rest assured that, despite these threats, the McCain-Palin campaign will continue to address the serious issue of voter registration fraud by ACORN and other partisan groups, and compliance by states with the Help America Vote Act’s requirement of matching new voter registrations with state data bases to preve nt voter fraud.”

  88. So much for the First Amendment

    http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/10/18/393426.html

    I like that little touch of “KKK” AND burning the American Flag – such a nice contrast in message…..

    Car displaying McCain sticker vandalized
    Saturday, October 18, 2008
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    CLEARWATER (Bay News 9) — A Clearwater man’s vehicle that displayed a bumper sticker supporting John McCain has been defaced in what appears to be a hate crime, authorities say.

    According to authorities, 41-year-old Frank Armstrong’s 2006 Lexus LS 430 was parked on the 1400 block of Gulf Boulevard when someone or a group of people scratched the letters “KKK” into the paint and burned a U.S. Flag on the vehicle.

    Authorities say those involved also used cigarettes to burn several areas of the car and apparently urinated on the car.

    Armstrong’s vehicle displayed a bumper sticker supporting the McCain campaign and another that was anti-Barack Obama leading investigators to believe the crime was racially or politically motivated.

    No witnesses or surveillance video have been found.

  89. I saw a woman yesterday driving a van with a NOBama sticker and a “Drill Here, Drill Now” sticker on the back window. We sat at a light near eachother. The stares she got from passers-by in traffic were interesting. The woman in the Mercedes ahead of me were particularly good. It was easy to tell she was totally disgusted.

    The woman in the van DID NOT have a McCain sticker on her car.

  90. The case for McCain (The Editorial Board’s Dissent

    http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081019_Editorial__Another_View.html

    The Editorial Board’s endorsement of Barack Obama was not unanimous. Dissenters said:

    No one is better prepared than John McCain to serve as commander in chief and lead the country as it seeks successful outcomes in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and to work with Pakistan to help kill or capture the perpetrators of 9/11. McCain’s actions as a POW in Vietnam were heroic. In Congress, he has become intimately familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of the Pentagon.

    The Arizona senator has stood up to generals and presidents from Reagan to Bush on defense issues. He often offers sound alternatives, such as the counterinsurgency strategy that has brought greater security and stability to Iraq.

    Just the possibility of McCain in the White House chills the spines of pork-barrel spenders in both parties. And McCain understands that raising taxes to “spread the wealth” is not a form of patriotism, but a burden – to Joe the plumber and other Americans trying to make ends meet.

    A President McCain would work across the political aisle. He’s done it before, often angering fellow Republicans. And his character is unassailable. The selfless and courageous way he conducted himself during 51/2 years as a POW says much about the man.

  91. Obama raises 150 million dollars in September

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5imF0stzng4QHQfEka6jVR8_Di09AD93TH0OO0

    There is no way in hell this is coming from the American voter, not a chance, Americans are desperately worried about putting food on the table. Not a cats chance in hell this is coming from voters, no way, no how, this is laundered middle east money you can bank on it.

  92. Norma, i could not remeber where i saw it, i had the window open, went away for 10 mins and the browser collapsed, been trying to find it ever since.

  93. Sorry but if he raised 150 million, he’s be like 30 points ahead in polls, 150 million is minimum 10 dollars from 15 million people or 50 dollars from 7.5 million.

    Not a flipping chance in hell, people are broke and most well past the maximum 2300 dollar contribution.

    The country is broke, people dont have money to fill the gas tank but yet obviously have piles to give to Obama, no freaking way.

    This is money laundering pure and simple and if the msm got their fingers out of their asses, they’d see it.

  94. wooo-hoooo! just read the great news. congratulations BASIL9!!!!
    *************************************************
    also, Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby has McCain within 3 points. yippee!

  95. 150 mill. in September? From “regular americans”? In small dollar amounts?

    BULLSHIT!!
    BULLSHIT!!
    BULL….SHIT!!

  96. What is it this cycle with Dems not paying taxes

    NY Governor’s Aide Failed To Pay Taxes For 5 Years

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/18/ap/national/main4530693.shtml

    Gov. David Paterson’s chief of staff _ a former Jesuit priest who officiated at both the wedding and funeral of John F. Kennedy Jr. _ blames depression for failing to file income taxes for years, according to a published report.

    Charles O’Byrne, who earns $178,500, has paid more than $200,000 in back taxes, the New York Post reported Saturday.

    The tax debt came to light when New York’s Department of State filed an outstanding warrant against O’Byrne last year.

    “Certainly, I’m ashamed of the fact that this has occurred in my life,” the 49-year-old governor’s adviser told the newspaper. “But I’m clinically aware of the fact that it is a consequence of an illness over which I had no control.”

    CAN YOU SMELL BULLSHIT

    and they want to go on about Joes, 1200 dollar tax lean. this is starting to be endemic among Democrats. If I was McCain, I’d run an ad, “They want to put up your taxes but yet Dem party officials refuse to pay theirs, whats up with this picture”

  97. I know IDUNN, its impossible. If thats the case, he should be like 30% ahead in polls, something smells and it smells bad and McCain need to challenge and say “prove where this money came from”

  98. Too bad they spend all their time investigating a small town plumber, and no time on the where that amount of money can come from.

  99. LOL Powell Endorsed Obama

    Thats pure racism for you.

    So I guess all his bullshit lies from the UN are forgiven.

  100. Powell drank a LOT of koolaid.

    Isn’t his endorsement RACIST??????
    He says he’s still a Repub, he agrees with the origina; decision to go to war but thinks JM’s campaign has gone too negative by tying him to Ayers, implying he’s a Muslim and calling him a socialist.
    Another racist word – socialism.
    But not a friggin word about John Lewis saying JM was like Wallace.
    Who’s next? Condi Rice? Grrrrrrrrrrr.

    BTW, Thanks Emjay, illinois Underground, alcina and djia.
    :LOL:

  101. Obama has a problem here, he attacks the iraq war yet embraces the guy who blatantly lied at the UN and did most of the legwork for the war, Yet Obama basically says Powell would be a liar under his scenario if Bush lied us into war.

    So the question is, Does Obama want people to take the endorsement of a man who he says lied us into war and then put him in his adminstation?

    Er forgive me but thats fucked up logic.

  102. i hope JM keeps hammering away with joe plumber. i work with the trades; plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc. the snobby way BO puts these folks down ain’t gonna go-over well.

  103. At one point I was a supporter of Colin Powell. Obviously, he has fallen from grace since he presented false information to the United Nations. Whether he did so knowingly, in service of the commander in chief or was duped into the role of patsy I cannot say. His endorsement carries little or no weight, and the fact that he claims to be a Republican is beyond irrelevant. The further claim that he thinks referenes to Ayers are too negative merely indicates he has not done his homework any more that when he told us Saddaam had nuclear weapons.

  104. I think that the McCain campaign will respond hard to this endorsement. He is making claims that aren’t factually true. Frankly, might this actually work in McCain’s favor?? No matter what Powell says, everyone is going to say he is endorsing Obama because he is black. At some point, there will be backlash to all this..I think there are “silent” voters out there watching all this unfold but no letting their feelings known to pollsters…

  105. Obama has a problem here, he attacks the iraq war yet embraces the guy who blatantly lied at the UN and did most of the legwork for the war, Yet Obama basically says Powell would be a liar under his scenario if Bush lied us into war.

    So the question is, Does Obama want people to take the endorsement of a man who he says lied us into war and then put him in his adminstation?

    Er forgive me but thats fucked up logic
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    Yet another example of the situational ethics he is famous for. They enable him to change positions on a dime, as we have seen so often.

  106. americangal,
    was it nixon(?) who referred to it as the “silent majority”? if this is so, it will be big for JM. let’s hope so.

  107. americangal,
    was it nixon(?) who referred to it as the “silent majority”? if this is so, it will be big for JM. let’s hope so.

  108. I think that the McCain campaign will respond hard to this endorsement. He is making claims that aren’t factually true. Frankly, might this actually work in McCain’s favor?? No matter what Powell says, everyone is going to say he is endorsing Obama because he is black. At some point, there will be backlash to all this..I think there are “silent” voters out there watching all this unfold but no letting their feelings known to pollsters…
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    AmericanGal: I agree. There are some endorsements you would rather no have, and this is likely to be one of them. Other examples from the other end of the spectrum are Farakan, Sharpton, Fonda et. al. These are cultural villains to many Americans, and although Powell is by comparision a decent man, his political judgment leaves much to be desired. In the balance, I see this as you do–a negative for Obama. If he thinks otherwise he is flat wrong.

  109. BHO plays the same game as in primary, that is roll out endorsement and big crow to make news and distract his long time associations and socialism ideology.

  110. americangal,
    was it nixon(?) who referred to it as the “silent majority”? if this is so, it will be big for JM. let’s hope so.
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    Yes it was. It was not Saphire, as many of us once assumed . Saphire was the one who have Agnew the memorable line nattering nabobs of negativity to describe his left wing opponents. McCains adaptation to counter bambis orwellian call for unity, and by inference the police state tactics required to achieve it, is the silenced majority.

  111. The elites do not know we are in perilous times. The elites do not want their power, influence and money to be taken to fix it. The want that burden placed on the middle class. The bots meanwhle are too dumb to spit. Small wonder these groups want bambi. I do feel some sympathy for the elites. I want them to have that third mecedes and that summer home on the Riviera. I worry about their mental health if they do not get it. If there is a depression they will have to cut back on Rhone Valley wine. Such sacrifices do not come easy for them. That is what they like about Bambi. The wealth he will be spreading belongs to people like Joe, who are good enough to clean the drains of the elites but not good enough to provide for themselves and their familes. Makes you understand the French Revolution does it not. We can beat them however if enough Joes see through the bamboozling. I think they will.

  112. Anyone else hear the breaking news that both JM and BO staffers are being called to Washington coz the FBI has credible evidence of terrorism scheduled to occur right after the GE. This happened recently in the UK with Blair, I beleive, and also in Spain.

    it was on FOX about an hour ago.

  113. 150 million, and tied in the polls? Something is rotten in Obama’s campaign, well it has been that for a while, as we all know. But the audacity of running things in this way can only mean one thing, that he thinks he won’t get caught.

  114. Obama and his wife needed to come out with a strong statement as soon as they knew that the NYT was doing a hit piece on Cindy McCain. Instead he probably pushed for it and is smirking all over the place.

  115. Basil: a threat of that nature trumps the economy and favors mccain. McCain has the character and background to deal with it. The only thing Bambi brings to the table is current associations with people who blew up the capitol and foreign terrorist groups like Hamas. Under the circumstances he should recuse himself. The thought of someone with his deficiecies dealing with a problem of this magnitude is frightening. It reminds me of the French in world war II>

  116. I am sure they saved the Powell endorsement when there has been some stinking around Obama’s camp

  117. wbboei,

    I checked the Fox site for the story and i can’t find it.

    it was reported around 9:30 this morning on Fox news.

  118. McCain and Obama teams get white house briefings about post GE terror attacks.

    this is a developing story and is being reported on FOX right now.

  119. FBI doing security checks on key McCain and BO advisors and staffers.

    Neil Livingstone terrorism expert is on on FOX.
    He says it could be similar to what was done in UK.

  120. 150 million, and tied in the polls? Something is rotten in Obama’s campaign, well it has been that for a while, as we all know. But the audacity of running things in this way can only mean one thing, that he thinks he won’t get caught.
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    I wonder how much of that huge sum can be traced to terrorist organizations. You think I am kidding. I do not think he wants to know. If he did he would be more forthcoming. The point is our country is being bought and unless we elect mccain and get public financing the American People will lose their voice. If I were advising McCain, I would use this huge influx of shady money to raise doubts as to who he really is and equally important who is controlling him.

  121. FBI doing security checks on key McCain and BO advisors and staffers
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    could bambi pass a security check? if that requires a valid birth certificate, I think we know the answer. Powers would flunk. She needs to be as far away from anything serious like this that you can get. She is too emotional.

  122. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 11:11 am
    I am sure they saved the Powell endorsement when there has been some stinking around Obama’s camp
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    correct. but what they fail to understand is it means less than nothing. In fact, it is a negative.

  123. If I were advising McCain, I would use this huge influx of shady money to raise doubts as to who he really is and equally important who is controlling him.
    ———————-

    wbboei, I agree.. He should do an ad using Obama’s half hour extravaganza as a pretext tying it to all this money he has raised and say where is the need for such when people are hurting.. It is clear it is not Joe the plumbers giving him this money and McCain needs to say, who is funding him? Raise doubts and bring attention back to campaign finance reform. This is a perfect opportunity. Hope McCain does something with it.

  124. where i work, on our job application, one of the first questions asked is whether you have ever had any ties or associations to anti-government or terrorist organizations. applications for clearances are even more stringent. my ass would be escorted out the door if i had any associations to the weather underground, etc.

    how can it be that a potential CiC gets a pass on the basic requirements? it is horrifying.

  125. Does anyone who is the least bit objective believe that Obama has the leadership skills to deal with a serious terrorist threat or a war? The qualities needed in that situation are a strong mind not a brilliant one, a loyalty to country and a steadfastness in purpose. Those are the qualities that define John McCain and they are conspicuously absent in Obama.

  126. where i work, on our job application, one of the first questions asked is whether you have ever had any ties or associations to anti-government or terrorist organizations. applications for clearances are even more stringent. my ass would be escorted out the door if i had any associations to the weather underground, etc.

    how can it be that a potential CiC gets a pass on the basic requirements? it is horrifying.
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    Correct. It is counterintuitive. That plus 150 million in one month. When will the real story on all this come out. Perhaps it already has: The Manchurian Candidate. But if that is true what group of interests owns him? And to what ultimate end.

  127. So if Obama tries to prosecute the Bush Administration for war crimes, he’ll have to prosecute Colin Powell too.

  128. I’m glad that McCain today opened the salvo on Fox of where exactly is Obama’s money coming from because its not coming from your average Joe the plumber.

  129. I agree, 150 million, must be from overseas…… has to be….

    also…did you hear about Hawaii? Its ending universal health care there after 7 months…

    in the home state of OBAMA – http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html

    also….did you hear what Biden said – JOBS is a three letter word? THREE?? Meaning just JOB? Just will Biden get the job? No one else? lol

  130. So if Obama tries to prosecute the Bush Administration for war crimes, he’ll have to prosecute Colin Powell too.
    —————-
    Not if he is a cooperating witness.

  131. Well this article is on the money, Obama hangs himself with this endorsement.
    Its absolutely correct, Powells endorsement is actually an albatross.

    http://www.gopublius.com/?p=485

    In a surprise announcement designed to have maximum media effect, former Secretary of State, Colin Powell, endorsed Senator Barack Obama. While early media reports have trumpeted the announcement as a coup for Obama, the endorsement is likely to shock many longtime anti-war, anti-Bush Democrats who will feel betrayed and uncomfortable with the notion of Obama receiving support from one of the leading figures of the Iraq War strategy. Indeed, given Obama’s strategy of opposing all things Bush, the Democrat is likely to find the support of George W. Bush’s former secretary of state a dubious blessing.

    While the media will receive the news of Powell’s endorsement with appropriate fanfare, in an election in which Obama’s judgment on the war has been a central justification for his presidency, Powell’s support makes for an awkward pairing. In the eyes of most Democrats and the international media, Powell left the Bush Administration a much-diminished figure, and his salesmanship of the Iraq War before the United Nations has been routinely cited as Exhibit A in the theory that the Bush Administration lied in its justification for the war. Though Powell has long contended that he was convinced by the evidence that he saw prior to making his presentation to the United Nations and supporting the invasion, today’s endorsement places Obama in a difficult position. If Obama and his supporters accept Powell’s endorsement, and embrace his contention that his assessment of pre-war intelligence was an honest mistake, they must also accept the same explanation from Bush, thus eviscerating the core of their anti-war message: “Bush Lied.” Alternatively, to cling to the “Bush lied” theory necessarily mans that Powell’s failure to get it right on Iraq can only be explained by an acknowledgment that Powell himself either lied for, or was duped by the Bush Administration – alternatives not likely to engender esteem for Powell’s judgment.

    Moreover, Powell’s support opens up a sweet avenue of attack for rival John McCain, who can now fashion the catch phrase, “Bush-Obama” foreign policy, hanging the albatross of Powell’s support around his opponent’s neck, while trumpeting his own extensive military experience as well as depth of support in the military and diplomatic arenas. In an early response to the Powell endorsement, Senator John McCain coolly noted, “I’m also very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state — Secretaries Kissinger, Baker, Eagleburger, and Haig — and I’m proud to have the endorsement of well over 200 retired Army generals and admirals.”

  132. # moononpluto Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    I’m glad that McCain today opened the salvo on Fox of where exactly is Obama’s money coming from because its not coming from your average Joe the plumber.
    ————————-

    What did he say and where?

  133. Ayers and Obama shared an office for 3 years with Klonsky

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=2907

    It’s nice to be the guy getting tips for once instead of the guy sending them. Yesterday I got two great tips from Morgen, a reader who had found my earlier posts digging into the Obama Ayers connection. Both tips appear to check out and the second one is, I think, big news.

    First, the smaller one…

    This Chicago Annenberg Challenge website from 2002 shows the total amount of funds given to Bill Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop from 1995 to 2001. The amount is not the $175K I had reported earlier. According to this page, the total given under Barack Obama’s direct supervision was $1,056,162. Adding that amount to the money given by the Joyce Foundation and Woods Fund during Obama’s tenure brings the grand total to $1,968,718. Just shy of two million dollars! That’s a lot of scratch, to put it bluntly. And don’t forget, this doesn’t count the 3/4 million that went to John Ayers during the same time period.

    Now here’s the second and bigger break, again big hat tip to Morgen for his work on this…

    Bill Ayers and Barack Obama shared an office. Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop, the one Obama directed all that money too is located at 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607 [Note the link is to a year 2000 version of their website]. Here’s a screen grab from the website’s footer:

  134. “Bush-Obama” foreign policy, hanging the albatross of Powell’s support around his opponent’s neck, while trumpeting his own extensive military experience as well as depth of support in the military and diplomatic arenas. In an early response to the Powell endorsement, Senator John McCain coolly noted, “I’m also very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state — Secretaries Kissinger, Baker, Eagleburger, and Haig — and I’m proud to have the endorsement of well over 200 retired Army generals and admirals.”
    ————————————–
    Question: does one albatross trump 4 former secretaries of state and 200 retired flag officers?

    Answer: of course it does. (Sources: Olberman, Newsweek, New York Times).

  135. Ayers and Obama shared an office for 3 years with Klonsky
    —————————————
    Ayers? Just a guy who lived in my neighborhood.

    Bambi is a pathological liar.

  136. Question: does anyone in big media understand that when they go to such unbelievable lengths to protect a pathological liar that there may come a point where no fair minded person believes what they say either?

    Evidently the question does not arise. But when the time comes that it does, spare me the sight of those knownothings sitting around a table talking about how big media got carried away with itself in this election, and how we can prevent this sort of thing in the future, etc.

    If you are in big media and did not stand up for truth when it counted then do everybody a favor and just shut the fuck up. You are part of the problem, and have no standing to propose solutions after the parade passes by.

  137. Now this i find a tad over doing it. On Hillbuzz

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/a-little-snack-for-michelle-obama/

    447 dollars for a snack.

    French champagne.

    Iranian caviar.

    Lobster, lobster, lobster.

    A little snack for Michelle Obama while her husband attended a meeting the other day.

    Of course she thought the stimulus checks people received earlier this year were a pittance (that couldn’t even buy a nice pair of earrings). If this is what Michelle spends on “a snack”, then earrings must be in the thousands.

    We don’t know about you, but a snack for us is a $1.00 granola bar and maybe a smoothie.

    But, we’re not an Obama (thank Hera), so we can’t relate.

    UPDATE: We just had to add a little perspective on Michelle Obama’s snack, after coming back from the grocery store and realizing we could make a pretty good dinner for someone for about $10.00, give or take, if we were making a big batch of things like roast beef, sweet potatoes, salad, fresh bread, stuffed mushrooms, and for dessert, baked Alaska (of course). What we made for dinner tonight, as a matter of fact.

    So, at $10.00 a head, we could have fed 40 people for what Michelle Obama spent on a single snack.

    We bet a homeless shelter could have fed 80 people at $5.00/head (or even less) for what Michelle Obama spent on a single snack.

    Just saying.

    And haven’t we seen this kind of behavior before?

  138. Now this i find a tad over doing it. On Hillbuzz

    447 dollars for a snack.

    French champagne.

    Iranian caviar.

    Lobster, lobster, lobster.

    A little snack for Michelle Obama while her husband attended a meeting the other day.

    Of course she thought the stimulus checks people received earlier this year were a pittance (that couldn’t even buy a nice pair of earrings). If this is what Michelle spends on “a snack”, then earrings must be in the thousands.

    We don’t know about you, but a snack for us is a $1.00 granola bar and maybe a smoothie.

    But, we’re not an Obama (thank Hera), so we can’t relate.

    UPDATE: We just had to add a little perspective on Michelle Obama’s snack, after coming back from the grocery store and realizing we could make a pretty good dinner for someone for about $10.00, give or take, if we were making a big batch of things like roast beef, sweet potatoes, salad, fresh bread, stuffed mushrooms, and for dessert, baked Alaska (of course). What we made for dinner tonight, as a matter of fact.

    So, at $10.00 a head, we could have fed 40 people for what Michelle Obama spent on a single snack.

    We bet a homeless shelter could have fed 80 people at $5.00/head (or even less) for what Michelle Obama spent on a single snack.

    Just saying.

    And haven’t we seen this kind of behavior before?

  139. hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/19/todays-eeyore-report-fundraising-and-colin-powell-edition/
    Today’s Eeyore Report: Fundraising and Colin Powell Edition

    Snip-

    Posted by hillbuzz
    Let’s breakdown Powell’s endorsement for a minute. If he claims he’s not backing Obama just because he’s black, that means Powell must be backing Obama for another reason. So, we believe it’s then safe to assume that Powell shares the following with Obama:
    1. He mocks working class Americans like Joe the Plumber
    2. He believes in meeting unconditionally with rogue leaders
    3. He feels Midwesterners are bitter and cling to guns and religion
    4. He can’t believe the price of arugula at Whole Foods
    5. He wants hard working Americans to turn over their income for redistribution
    6. He sees no problem flip-flopping on important issues like FISA, campaign finance reform, drilling, or whatever the polls are saying this week
    7. He has no qualms about not only associating with hatemongers like Jeremiah Wright or unrepentant terrorists like William Ayers, but also lying about the relationships he has with them, before lying about what he lied about today in an ever-changing circle of lies on the subject
    8. He thinks nothing’s wrong with dirty Chicago politics and dealings with people like convicted felon Tony Rezko
    9. He doesn’t see the need to put his hand on his heart during the national anthem and show proper respect for American traditions
    10. He wouldn’t have visited troops in the hospital in Germany or Iraq either, because no cameras were allowed in there
    We do not believe for a moment that Powell would have endorsed a white man or woman who had even one of the above attached to them — and that’s just 10 right off the top of our head. So, this is obviously about race and we believe everyone knows it.

    It’s obvious to us that releasing the fundraising numbers and Colin Powell endorsement together, today, was meant to kill the Joe the Plumber story and Obama’s accidental admission that he’s a socialist. Like we said above, this is what Obama did during the primaries. He’s been carrying around Powell’s endorsement in his pocket since at least August (while we believe he’s had it since the day one, because Powell was always going to endorse a black man…blacks can be as racist as whites, if you haven’t figured that out during this election).
    Obama saves news to use strategically, so he can try to not only change the dialogue, but also freak Eeyores out and dampen his opponents support.

    It’s funny all this news comes the morning after Sarah Palin’s appearance on Saturday Night Live last night. The Obama campaign must have been really worried that Palin did well, and didn’t want anyone talking about how great she was this morning, so hence the Powell and fundraising announcements today. This is what the Obama campaign did after Hillary Clinton won West Virginia: the very next day, he trotted John Edwards out to endorse him, so that the media would report on that instead of Clinton’s West Virginia win.
    This morning, Obama didn’t want people talking about Palin or Joe the plumber or Obama’s socialist agenda, so he hit with a double whammy of the fundraising totals and the Powell endorsement.
    Remember, the fundrasing totals aren’t due until the 20th of October, so there’s no reason those had to be released today. In fact, we don’t remember fundraising totals ever being released on a Sunday before. And Powell could have made his endorsement at any time, on any day

    The one thing we can’t get over is how readily you Eeyores allow yourselves to be played like this. The only way Obama can win is if you let the media get to you and depress your turnout. The numbers we look at every day show Obama losing, but only if Republicans and moderate Democrats like us turn out to vote against him. If you let Obama and the media beat you, Eeyores will be to blame, because you weren’t smart enough to think for yourself and tune out the garbage.
    We’ve taken 25 minutes out of our day to write this and address you Eeyores, and that’s all the time we are giving you people. Every Eeyore who emails us on this topic is getting a link to this post as a response — since we long stopped answering these people’s depressing phone calls. And that’s how we handle Eeyores around here.
    Little Remy has an excuse for being the way he is — he’s 3. There’s no excuse for an Eeyore.
    Not that we can think of, and we’ve been at this with them since January.

  140. Michelle’s Answer to The McDonalds Happy Meal:

    French champagne.

    Iranian caviar.

    Lobster, lobster, lobster.

    Cost: $447 (not including tip)
    ———————————–
    Oh come on moon be reasonable.

    Like the Mafia says: “everybodys gotta eat”.

    Living well is the best revenge–right Mish?

  141. I, we, are sooo happy for you and your family, Basil9.

    I forced myself to watch George Stephenanopolis show this morning with David Gergen, Donna Godzilla, and Newt Gingrich among the guest panelists. Newt was almost subdued among all the Kool-Aide drinkers who talked incessantly about what an nObama presidency would be like as if McCain had already been voted down. The Kool-Aide drinkers kept talking about an nObama Presidency and used phrases like “he must go BOLD.” I took this to mean he must implement his radical leftist socialist, marxist communist like ideas and all those of his associates. Newt was very insightful although quite understated in his view against INTERNATIONALism. Did anyone else see this exchange? He said McCain should hammer the Pelosi/Reid/Obama connection; and tell the American people that they will be a runaway train that will be unstoppable when the Dimocrats run the House/Senate/Presidency.

    IMHO Colin Powell liked to get us into IRAQ and lost credibility with me loooong long ago. I view his endorsement of nObama as one black voting for another perceived black – and I call that RACIST with a captial R. His attack on Palin and stating she is not qualified slaps one in the face when he never even thought to question nObama’s lack of qualifications and he is on top of the ticket. His ‘logic’ boggles my mind.

    Please phone bank and volunteer for McCain/Palin. A vote for anyone not McCain is a vote for nObama.

    nObama. No way. No how. Not. Ever. Never.

  142. Joe the plumber and tax plans seem to be taking a toll on Obama as his lead continues to shrink. Real clear average down to 5% (but is really 4.7%) They need a new calculator.

  143. Honestly, that humongous list of documents that Obama’s elitist supporters will not let the public open/read would make a fantastic television ad for McCain. He could have each document scrolling down and at the very end in caps and bold letters:

    WHO ARE YOU MR. OBAMA? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?

  144. ShortTermer
    Powell said afterwards the tone of the McCain campaign was a factor in his endorsment. Bringing up little things like Ayers is silly he said. Poor old Colin must go boating with Teddy Kennedy since they both endorsed him because people were picking on Obama.

  145. Right, rjk1957, poor nBambi.

    Also, forgot to mention that Newt spoke of how the Republicans would be re-ignited for 2012 should nObama win and that Presidency hit the predictable roadblocks in its path. [My words-that an nObama presidency proves to be as divisive and destructive as can be predicted now – should we have any semblance of a country left after a nObama dictatorship- the Republicans would reap great rewards].

  146. All kidding aside, mish is a very immature person. To be splurging this way on herself in these economic times is the height of folly. I get the sense of Jim and Tammey Faye Baker in those two. On the surface they are presenting themselves as shamen and spiritual leaders. Behind the scenes they are just a pair of grasping materialists who are in it only for themselves.

  147. It keeps playing in my head what McCain says, “We have him right where we want him.” I hope so.

    It is October, I want my surprise.

  148. I keep having this feeling that there will be no October surprise this campaign, but a November surprise on election day. Obama staffers being vetted by the FBI for the administration transition in larger numbers than McCain staffers. Let’s show them that this is another waste of taxpayer dollars!! Shock the left and vote McCain!!

  149. Obama staffers being vetted by the FBI for the administration transition in larger numbers than McCain staffers.
    ————————————
    Not true.

  150. who said that Obama’s staffers are being vetted more? Is that just rumor or substantiated fact?
    ——————————————
    It is the caboose in the inevitabilty train. Just more of his bullshit.

  151. Thoughts on Colin Powell…

    In two statements on Obama/McC, he said that his reasons for picking O over McC were 1. that the Rep party had gone too much to the right — not true, no further to the right since he was part of it.

    2. that McC seemed unsure what to do in the econ. crisis — anybody who was instantly sure what to do doesn’t understand the problem.

    3. that he has known McC for 20 (or 25) years and thinks he’d make a good pres. but he’s “paid close attention to O for the last 2 years” and thinks he’s better — does he mean that he paid close attention because he knew 2 years ago that O would be the nominee?

    It seemed quite clear that he was going to go with the winner to get back into the game….(Powell for sec of defense or state or something) He’s now decided that O is the winner so he’s made up something, while leaving a little door open in case he’s wrong.

    If you match the reasons he gave for becoming a Rep and his reasoning now, there seems nothing but ‘best chance for advancement’ in his reasoning.

  152. wbboei
    It was on Fox news about an hour ago the vetting process started earlier than ever before because the administration does not want the next administration taking over unprepared. Fox said that Obama staffers being vetted in much larger numbers than McCain’s. Not to say that Bush Adm. thinks he will win, just they are providing info on staffers in larger numbers.

  153. They also said that part of their reasoning is that on 9/11 only 1/3 of Bush appointees had been approved by the senate and do not want us caught with our pants down again.

  154. What do we have about three weeks left until the election.

    Lots could happen before then.

    Powell has lost his credibility along time ago. Folks see him voting for Barack because he is Black.

    I take whatever Powell says with a grain of salt. Maybe people will say he lied about Araq, he is lying about O.This will turn some people off O.

  155. Anyway…it’s odd how I came to land on Mutual Bank, because my first thought was Superior Bank. But I nixed that early on. Then, I turned my attention to Giannoulias…had to be Broadway Bank. But the one thing about this whole Rezko thing that’s been a nagging “chirp” was the Chicago Planning Commision. In this particular chapter of the saga, all things lead back to that. Allison Davis, Valerie Jarrett, etc. etc. So I googled the names associated with the banks I knew, along with “Chicago Planning Commision” and lo and behold…Amrish Mahajan !

    It’s all about the slumlords, baby.

    —–

    Corsi mentioned Amrish Mahajan in his Obamanation book…associated with Rezko loan!!!!

  156. # rjk1957 Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Joe the plumber and tax plans seem to be taking a toll on Obama as his lead continues to shrink. Real clear average down to 5% (but is really 4.7%) They need a new calculator.
    &&&&&&&&&

    It was about 7% just like three days ago, and that includes the highly skewed prObama polls like ABC/WashPost.

    The oversampling of Dems almost certainly does not account for disaffected Dems like we have here on this web site, and who knows if that includes Repubs who became Democrats for A Day to help make Waffles the candidate rather than the tougher Hillary.

  157. Lifted this from Uppity’s site.

    Sounds like a call to kill people, doesn’t it?

    I found this at the blog area at RCP.
    Daily Kos and “Joe the Racist Plumber”

    By Donald Douglas

    Daily Kos has attacked Joe Wurzelbacher as “Joe the Racist Plumber.”

    Daily Kos also published Wurzelbacher’s address online earlier today.

    Now, here’s how Markos Moulitsas defends his blog’s program of poliltical demonization:

    If you want a radical departure from the governments we’ve suffered the last several decades, we must deliver a whipping the likes Republicans haven’t seen in ages.

    I realize there are people uncomfortable with aggressive language and action. That’s the difference between liberal weenies and movement progressives. Liberal weenies sit around thinking that “the truth” is enough for victory, and that if we simply explain to voters why Democrats are better, why, we can’t possibly lose any elections! That’s the crowd that wants to keep the “high ground” and doesn’t want to go down in the gutters and fight the GOP where they live, lest we get a little muddied ourselves.

    Movement progressives realize that we must do everything necessary allowable under the law to win because elections have consequences. This isn’t about who is most pure, but about taking the fight to the enemy and aggressively embracing progressivism, offering clear contrasts between us and them, and fighting fire with fire. There’s no ambiguity about where I belong.

    So to my fellow movement progressives, embrace that killer instinct and let’s finish the job. We’ve got conservatives demoralized and on the run. They are retrenching around their most important voices. So let’s pick off those they’ve left exposed and go after their best defended leaders as well.”

  158. Its time for all whites to start voting for whites, since this is how the game is now being played.

    DON’T VOTE FOR EXPERIENCE

    VOTE FOR THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.

    THIS IS HOW THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED.

    I really am getting sick of these politicians

    They do not have the countrys best interest at heart, just themselves. GREEDY, GREEDY, GREEDY

  159. So to my fellow movement progressives, embrace that killer instinct and let’s finish the job. We’ve got conservatives demoralized and on the run. They are retrenching around their most important voices. So let’s pick off those they’ve left exposed and go after their best defended leaders as well.”
    —————————————-
    This is why we still need insane asylums. Prozac is not enough. The word progressive begs the obvious question to what end. Anarchy?

  160. # justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Powell lied for Bush, now this goes to reinforce that Powell will lie for Obama
    &&&&&&&&&

    Powell only supports douche bags.

  161. Wbboei – if any one other than an Obama supporter had written “Let’s pick off those they’ve left exposed…” etc., the would be being arrested about RIGHT NOW

  162. neetabug Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    Its time for all whites to start voting for whites, since this is how the game is now being played.

    DON’T VOTE FOR EXPERIENCE

    VOTE FOR THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.

    THIS IS HOW THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED.

    I really am getting sick of these politicians

    They do not have the countrys best interest at heart, just themselves. GREEDY, GREEDY, GREEDY
    ——————————————-

    Perhaps that is what needs to happen in a couple of election cylces for both sides to see the futility of it. What we would find is the genius of the American People is not circumscribed by race and the community as a whole is disadvantaged if we go futher down the path that Obama and Malcom X have laid down. In other words we test the principle as we would a piece of metal to the point of failure, and readjust accordingly.

  163. I will take this endorsement of McCain over today’s endorsement of nObama any day. Remember, I had a son in the Persian Gulf War under this general. He is brilliant, a pitbull for what is right; and he is/was loved by his men:
    GENERAL NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF ENDORSES JOHN MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT

    For Immediate Release
    Wednesday, January 23, 2008

    ARLINGTON, VA — Today, General H. Norman Schwarzkopf, U.S. Army (Ret.) issued the following statement endorsing John McCain for President of the United States:

    “Senator John McCain has served our country with honor in war and in peace. He has demonstrated the type of courageous leadership our country sorely needs at this time. For that reason, he has my complete support.”

    John McCain thanked General Schwarzkopf for his support, stating, “General Norman Schwarzkopf’s distinguished lifetime of service and uncommon devotion to our nation has earned him the respect and admiration of the American people. I am honored by his support.”
    —————————————–
    Schwarzkopf is spot on!

  164. Well another reason for vetting Obama’s staff more than McCain’s could have nothing to do with who wins but may have everything to do with his suspicious connections and crooked hirings.

    Putting this man in the oval office is just asking for turmoil!

  165. I will take this endorsement of McCain over today’s endorsement of nObama any day. Remember, I had a son in the Persian Gulf War under this general. He is brilliant, a pitbull for what is right; and he is/was loved by his men:
    GENERAL NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF ENDORSES JOHN MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT
    ————————————–
    Stormin’ Norman is the real thing. Diplomatic generals like Powell can get fancy and play the Georgetown cocktail set . Combat commanders like Norman do not have that luxury. The decisons they make have life and death consequences. An endorsement from Schwarzkopf is far more important than Powell.

  166. Well another reason for vetting Obama’s staff more than McCain’s could have nothing to do with who wins but may have everything to do with his suspicious connections and crooked hirings.

    Putting this man in the oval office is just asking for turmoil!
    ————————————–
    Jan-you may have something there. Maybe they are looking for the enemy within when they cull through Obamas staff. Yes it is delusional alright. But delusional or not it could still be true.

  167. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Limbaugh_Where_are_the_inexperienced_white_liberals_Powell_has_endorsed.html?showall

    Limbaugh: Where are the inexperienced, white liberals Powell has endorsed?
    Rush Limbaugh said Colin Powell’s decision to get behind Barack Obama appeared to be very much tied to Obama’s status as the first African-American with a chance to become president.

    “Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race,” Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. “OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I’ll let you know what I come up with.”

    As for Powell’s statement of concern this morning about the sort of Supreme Court justices a President McCain might appoint, Limbaugh wrote: “I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [general] and secretary of state and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let’s hear it for transformational figures.”

  168. Norma Desmond Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    Wbboei – if any one other than an Obama supporter had written “Let’s pick off those they’ve left exposed…” etc., the would be being arrested about RIGHT NOW
    —————————————
    And some day they may rue the fact that they gave Obamas wack jobs a free pass.

  169. wbboei and JanH, maybe a postive to come out of the staff vetting would be to shine a light on who is and who is not capable of obtaining a clearance – and that would illuminate the enemies from within. But what about nObama being vetted for security clearance. I know it is not a requirement of a President, but it would save the American people a lot of grief if they did this since it would eliminate questions about the birth certificate, citizenship, etc. – or NOT.

  170. This woman is a fruitcake

    Kansas City lawyer and supporter of Barack Obama, Mary Kay Green, has filed a lawsuit in federal court asking that Arizona Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign be ordered to cease its negative portrayal of Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) on the grounds that it is adversely affecting her health.

    “I used to sleep easy in the confident expectation that Senator Barack Obama would be our next president,” Green stated. “But Senator McCain and his running mate’s persistent attempts to undermine Obama’s ascent to the office of president are causing me terror of the heart, anxiety and grave fear. My health has been put at risk of irreparable damage.”

    The suit argues that the only way to avert this irreparable damage is for the court to block further campaign activities and statements by the McCain/Palin ticket. “My belief in the omnipresent goodness and wisdom of Senator Obama is being threatened,” Green continued.

    Green drew a parallel with the day she was told that there was no Santa Clause. “I was at the junior prom when my date mentioned that there was no Santa Claus,” Green recounted. “My classmates backed him up. My whole world was turned upside down. I don’t want to have to relive those feelings.”

  171. moononpluto Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 9:47 am
    Obama has a problem here, he attacks the iraq war yet embraces the guy who blatantly lied at the UN and did most of the legwork for the war, Yet Obama basically says Powell would be a liar under his scenario if Bush lied us into war.

    So the question is, Does Obama want people to take the endorsement of a man who he says lied us into war and then put him in his adminstation?

    Er forgive me but thats fucked up logic.

    ———————————————————————–

    Add Kerry and all the rest that endorsed the Iraq war endorsing him.

  172. Obama staffers being vetted by the FBI for the administration transition in larger numbers than McCain staffers
    —————————————–
    Upon reflection I have a different take. Perhaps it would be prudent to vet everyone around bambi just on general principles. You might find a treasure trove of shady people. How about the ACORN group he barely knows and pays 800k for just lighting. Hard to maintain that lie once your realize he was a trainer for them, promised to consult with them on the course of his presidency, used them in the caucues, and is using them now to cheat in the ge.

    Obama: Axelrod why the hell didnt you destroy that video of me speaking to the ACORN group? We cannot let many more of those slip through the cracks cause people may get wise to us. Go down to walmart and get us 100 more shredders. Put our internet bloggers on red alert to destroy anything negative in my past that could jeopardize my candidacy. Now get with it!

  173. Kansas City lawyer and supporter of Barack Obama, Mary Kay Green, has filed a lawsuit in federal court asking that Arizona Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign be ordered to cease its negative portrayal of Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) on the grounds that it is adversely affecting her health.
    —————————————-
    Prozac is not enough.

  174. Obama–the man that never was:

    Obama disrespects voters by withholding answers and records of his background:
    1. Occidental College records — Not released
    2. Columbia College records — Not released
    3. Columbia Thesis paper — “not available”
    4. Harvard College records — Not released
    5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
    6. Medical records — Not released
    7. Illinois State Senate schedule — “not available”
    8. Law practice client list — Not released
    9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
    10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
    11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
    12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
    13. Your Record of baptism– Not released or “not available”
    14. Your Illinois State Senate records–”not available

  175. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14719.html

    McCain: Obama cash will lead to scandal
    By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 10/19/08 10:53 AM EDT

    John McCain suggested that his Democratic rival Barack Obama’s record-shattering fundraising haul will lead to scandal in their presidential race and future races, and he hinted that there may already be funny business going on with Obama’s legions of small donors.

    Obama announced Sunday morning that he pulled in $150 million in September, which McCain described on “Fox News Sunday” as “completely breaking whatever idea we had after Watergate to keep the cost and spending on campaigns under control. First time, first time since the Watergate scandal. And I can tell you this: that has unleashed now in presidential campaigns a new flood of spending that will then cause a scandal and then we will fix it again. But Sen. Obama has broken it.”

  176. TriciaNC October 19, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    NEWS!

    Press Release
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Sunday, October 19, 2008

    CUMBERLAND COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS PROVIDES AID TO OBAMA CAMPAIGN

    RALEIGH—North Carolina Republican Party Chairman Linda Daves released the following statement in response to the Cumberland County Board of Elections expanding hours at two additional polling sites specifically for the purpose of aiding Senator Barack Obama’s rally in Fayetteville today. (“Cumberland County adds two new polling sites,” Fayetteville Observer, 10/18/08)

    “It is a gross distortion of the voting process for the Democrat-controlled Cumberland County Board of Elections to expand the number of early polling locations at the last minute to accommodate Senator Obama’s campaign rally. Their action makes the voting process an extension of a partisan political rally and that is clearly inappropriate.

    “With the many unanswered questions surrounding Senator Obama’s extensive relationship with ACORN along with the ongoing investigations in numerous states into the organization by election officials and by the FBI, the North Carolina Republican Party finds it astounding that additional voting locations were made available at an ‘emergency meeting’ without adequate notice to the general public. Barack Obama will say or do anything to win.

    “To be clear, the North Carolina Republican Party and the people of North Carolina are not against the expansion of polling hours or locations. However, North Carolinians are outraged when it is done at the last minute on an ‘emergency’ basis for the sole purpose of benefitting Senator Obama’s campaign.”

  177. copies from Norma’s comment posted up thread:
    Now, here’s how Markos Moulitsas defends his blog’s program of poliltical demonization:

    If you want a radical departure from the governments we’ve suffered the last several decades, we must deliver a whipping the likes Republicans haven’t seen in ages.

    I realize there are people uncomfortable with aggressive language and action. That’s the difference between liberal weenies and movement progressives. Liberal weenies sit around thinking that “the truth” is enough for victory, and that if we simply explain to voters why Democrats are better, why, we can’t possibly lose any elections! That’s the crowd that wants to keep the “high ground” and doesn’t want to go down in the gutters and fight the GOP where they live, lest we get a little muddied ourselves.

    This confirms what I have been thinking. So this is the grand cockamamie experiment that radical leftist bloggers came up with — to adopt republican/Rovian strategies to win. And Hillary would not have played along with them so they turned to a puppet Obama, though I think their first choice was Edwards. Simplistically I kept thinking that Dems have become Republicans and this tidbit from the monster himself gives it away. It also explains why they went after Hillary with such vigor because they wanted a puppet. Also pay attention to who these people are, ex-Republicans. How the hell did the Clinton-Rendell and such Democratic wing give up their party to these thugs? Kennedy!! there is your culprit.

  178. # moononpluto Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Hey can we all sue Obama for calling us racists as its slanderous and detremental to our wellbeing.
    —————————-

    Count me in — can we do a class action suit or whatever the legal term is.

  179. I wonder if Joe the plumber can go after that DKos guy for calling him a racist? I will contribute to his legal expenses. wbboei, how about it?

  180. One of my mentors was a San Francisco lawyer who has been dead now for twenty years, who was part of the Geary family as is Geary Square. He was related not by blood but by marriage.

    One time he told me an antecodote about the Bechtel organization, and their ceo was well known in the business world for his executive skill and his consistent ability to make sound business decisions under pressure.

    During an executive committee meeting he was apprised of a once in a lifetime business opportunity the nature of which is no longer important. Naturally, he asked some questions. The answers he was given were vague, so he pressed for more definitive answers. Those answers were not forthcoming. Instead, he was told that a decision must be made quickly or else the opportunity would be lost.

    His answer was this: whenever someone tells me that I must make an important decision, quickly and without sufficient information to properly evaluate the threat I have one consistent answer: no. There are other opportunities and other people I can do business with who will tell me what I need to know and they are the ones I will do business with.

    If you apply that logic to the facts of this election, you realize that there are dozens of questions Obama simply refuses to answer whereas McCain has always been forthcoming with his answers if the question was proper. Thus, the sound executive decision is to reject Obama and hire McCain.

  181. LOL, found this old quote about us while searching the internet, and thought you guys might get a kick out of it:

    ” These people are very hateful, and disrespectful of our party leaders, calling Pelosi, McCatskill, Shriver, Oprah, among others terrible terrible names!”

    Wasn’t even aware that Opraha and Shriver were party leaders….unless the poster was talking maybe about Tupperware parties.

  182. birdgal,

    do you mean this one?

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/late-night-lux-perpetua/

    moonpluto, you should be able to pull it up. Mozart’s Requiem and stunning footage of a lighthouse withstanding the most violent waves.

    ADMIN! Please embed!

  183. I got my Nevada voting pamphlet and I don’t get it.

    We have early voting here but it is too bizarre. There is a list of about 10 sites you can vote on Monday, another 10 sites you can vote on Tuesday, another 10 for Wednesday and so on. There is not a word about what you have to bring to be able to vote although they suggest you bring the pamphlet.

    Does that mean that all 100+ sites have everyone’s voting stuff so they can tell if you’re registered or is it same day registration like the primaries which means you can go to all the sites and vote or what?

    This is competely weird. It will probably go as legit as the cockamamie primaries.

  184. moononpluto Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
    I can’t see the video, what is it about.

    ————————————————

    It is a clip of Katie Couric speaking to Palin, asking her about the printed media she reads. Then, comes in Terry Tate (a linebacker), and knocks Palin over, saying “drill baby drill.” I couln’t make out the rest of his rant, but after he is finished, he waves to Couric, and says, “Hi Katie.” The misogyny of this election is terrifying, and the silence of the BO campaign speaks volumes, and lends tacit approval for these techniques. This will become even worse, if BO is elected. Can you imagine the outrage, if someone made a video of MO being knocked down by a white linebacker?

  185. There are 192,000 hits on this video, and nothing from MSM. Which campaign is being hateful and divisive? It sure isn’t the McCain campaign.

  186. if there is contact info for Powell, I would like to send this video to him and ask who is responsible for this negativity?

  187. PM: And Powell was complaining about the tenor of the McCain campaign. Hmm….I would look at the tenor of the BO campaign. They are the ones, that have been promoting violence, race baiting, and misogynistic behavior towards women. I am truly revolted, and I didn’t think, I could feel even more loathing towards BO’s supporters. What a hateful group of idiots.

  188. justmeinmtdora

    The sad thing is, that health insurance program in Hawaii was for children only.

    It cost about $25 per month. There were not that many uncovered children.

    Critics of the HI plan had been saying for months before it was signed into law that there were insufficient oversight rules and regs to guard against exactly what happened…families dropped their family coverage to make their children eligible for the state plan. And now insurance companies are bleating like sheep about their drop in premium income.

    Stupid design leads to fallen structures when the pressure is on.

    BO should be worried…his plan is designed almost exactly the way the Keiki Plan is, er, was.

    Hillary’s was so different – and covered everyone.
    Covering children is a cornerstone of Obama’s health plan.

  189. that video is the most appalling thing I have ever seen.

    Does the title of “domestic terrorist” seem a bit lame here?

  190. Moon: The first part of the clip, where Couric is interviewing Palin is real. The last part is not real, but the fact that someone is knocking Palin over, is disgusting. What if the video was of a white linebacker, knocking over MO? The concept is not something to laugh at.

  191. I don’t care if the video is real or not, it’s the implications, the suggestion of violence, that the only way AA’s can win is to “take out” the opponents. this is the messages this video exudes.

    I sent it to McCain camp..hope the send the Secret Service out to this person’s house.

    Shame on them for that oppressive message.

  192. the video is not real but suggestive and violent. I hope the secret service people talk to that Tate person/monster put them behind bars or something.

  193. I have been hesitant to come right out and say this but at the rate things are going and with each passing day showing more of BO’s misogynistic bias, I feel like now is the time.

    Ladies, let’s face it. While things have never been fair and equal under the old regime at least over the past few decades there has been a public display of empathy for women in the public domain, even if it wasn’t (and we KNOW it wasn’t) practiced chapter and verse in American homes.

    The women’s movement had some clout, some influence, some credibility.

    But with BO’s “bros before ‘hos” friends I fear that if he steals this election women will
    not only be pushed under the bus, they will be trampled on and driven over with no regard for gender equality.

    And (this is where it gets dicey) it has been my experience that women are far less respected (at least publicly) by AA men than by non-AA men. Granted, it’s all a crock but at least with the pretense of gender equality a check is put on behaviors that can be dubbed sexist and even if the sexism is real (which is usually the case) the offended has to back off in the public arena and give lip-service to women’s rights.

    The AA music world, in particular, has treated women like sex objects and little else for over a decade. We all know how insidious and hypnotic such messages can be. Rap, hip-hop and other music and videos portray women as pieces of meat and little else. The lyrics, like “I got 99 problems but a Bytch ain’t one of ‘em” perpetuate the visual perception of women as sexual objects and nothing more.

    We all wonder why the insults thrown at HRC, at Palin, at any woman opposed to a BO presidency has met with such vitriol. Do you honestly think it would have been permitted if a white presidential candidate had shown such disregard, allowed such lewd exploitive language in their campaign? Of course not.

    Why is BO allowed to get away with it? Is it because white men secretly agree with the underlying message that women are inferior and should be put in their places? Is it because the AA music sexploitation of women is one which white men long to emulate? Is it because women-as-object in AA music is considered a “cultural” issue and therefore off limits?

    I mean, WTF is going on?

    I can’t put my finger on it but I am very afraid of what a BO presidency would do to women’s rights in the US.

  194. Isnt just amazing that I am no longer scared by republicans after what I’ve seen these last 10 months.

  195. I wonder if Joe the plumber can go after that DKos guy for calling him a racist? I will contribute to his legal expenses. wbboei, how about it?
    —————————————-
    I doubt you could establish legal liability. But assuming you could there is the question of damages, and attorneys fees. The problem there is simple: you cannot squeeze blood (meaning money) out of a turnip or in this case a pin head.

  196. wbboei,

    Just wondering, what do you personally think will happen if, God willing, Obama doesn’t win? What will he, the DNC, the media, and his followers do?

  197. We are all getting a taste of the bitter life and the fear of the restitution coupled with retribution that this Hustler will create in our lives.Our Constitution is rapidly being replaced by a you owe me mentality and our homes will be turned into fortresses against the forces of evil led by Barack Hussein Obama.A man without a country and a conscience.

    By ABM90 The dark blanket of fear is about to engulf us.

  198. Lets just say, it wont be fun.

    I hope Bush has the national guard on alert and quite frankly, I hope the authorities take no shit, they canot be allowed to do what they say.

  199. JanH Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
    wbboei,

    Just wondering, what do you personally think will happen if, God willing, Obama doesn’t win? What will he, the DNC, the media, and his followers do?

    ——————————————————————————————–

    NOTHING, THIS IS ALL TALK TO SCARE EVERYONE.

  200. I hope this is all talk and the voters will reject this so called “The One” by Oprah.the cheerleader.The problem may well be that he may not be able to handle the his angry supporters,should he lose.Recreate 68 seems to be lurking in his background.I still feel that he is up against a silent majority at the moment but we shall prevail.

    Stay close to us Hillary.The country needs you.

    By ABM90

  201. I used to have the utmost respect for Colin Powell, but look at this he backed his skin color instead of the best person to run the country. I just can’t believe that there are still people who think this jerk will be good for the country. He is a liar and cheater, how is that good for us??

  202. moononpluto Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Now this i find a tad over doing it. On Hillbuzz

    447 dollars for a snack.

    French champagne.

    Iranian caviar.

    Lobster, lobster, lobster.

    A little snack for Michelle Obama while her husband attended a meeting the other day.
    ================

    What currency was this in?

  203. John McCain thanked General Schwarzkopf for his support, stating, “General Norman Schwarzkopf’s distinguished lifetime of service and uncommon devotion to our nation has earned him the respect and admiration of the American people. I am honored by his support.”
    —————————————–
    Schwarzkopf is spot on!
    ——————
    I love Schwarzkopf. He demands a lot more respect than Powell does. He lives around me somewhere, not sure where, but he stayed in Tampa.

  204. wbboei Says: Does anyone who is the least bit objective believe that Obama has the leadership skills to deal with a serious terrorist threat or a war? The qualities needed in that situation are a strong mind not a brilliant one, a loyalty to country and a steadfastness in purpose.
    ===========

    Mm, brilliant? We speak of the 911 terrorist attack as ‘brilliantly conceived’, but wasn’t a large factor there simple ruthlessness, being able to consider and choose means (and an end) that normal people would find unthinkable: attacking a civilian target, by using civilians as the weapon.

  205. h t t p : / / http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2109748/posts

    Zogby: McCain Is Gaining, Race Tightens
    NewsMax ^ | October 19, 2008

    Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:02:19 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

    Republican John McCain continued a slow advance on Democrat Barack Obama in the race for president, moving back within three percentage points as the race begins to head down the stretch run, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking poll shows.

    McCain now trails Obama by 2.7 points, down from the 3.9 point deficit he faced 24 hours earlier.

    Seven-point-one percent of the likely voters surveyed said they remain undecided.

    Obama lost five-tenths of a point from yesterday’s report, while McCain gained another six-tenths of a point. It was the third consecutive day in which Obama’s numbers slipped and McCain’s numbers increased.

    McCain has once again moved above 45% support overall, a mark he has not seen since the second day of daily tracking reports. Obama’s slip under 48% support is the first time at that level in nearly a week. He now stands within one-tenth of a percent of where he stood when the Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking began almost two weeks ago. McCain is within two-tenths of a percent of where he was when the tracking poll began.

    During the 13 days of the tracking poll, Obama has led by as much as 6.2 points and as little as 1.9 points.

    Except for a few hours of polling, this three-day rolling average of telephone polling now includes a sample taken entirely after the final presidential debate last Wednesday.

    The tracking poll includes 1,211 likely voters across the country who were surveyed between Oct. 16-18, 2008, at the rate of about 400 per day. The survey, conducted using live telephone interviewers calling from Zogby’s call center in Upstate New York, carries a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points.

  206. my parents and sister early voted today in nevada. that’s 3 votes fer ya, john and sarah. you betcha! (my parents are in their eighties and they LOVE sarah palin)

  207. that’s 3 votes fer ya, john and sarah.

    Throw me in there and we’re up to 4. 😉

    (Hubby voted for Bob Barr)

  208. I was just getting ready to post that zogby poll.

    Great news for JM.

    I don’t get why gallup has such a huge spread.

  209. # rjk1957 Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Joe the plumber and tax plans seem to be taking a toll on Obama as his lead continues to shrink. Real clear average down to 5% (but is really 4.7%) They need a new calculator.
    &&&&&&&&&

    It was about 7% just like three days ago, and that includes the highly skewed prObama polls like ABC/WashPost.

    The oversampling of Dems almost certainly does not account for disaffected Dems like we have here on this web site, and who knows if that includes Repubs who became Democrats for A Day to help make Waffles the candidate rather than the tougher Hillary.

    ——
    According to a Zogby article today Obama is losing support and McCain is gaining. About repubs who became dems for a day, they actually became dems for a day to vote for Hillary, because Rush Limbaugh told them to. There was some news coverage of it, not alot, but enough to get me curious enough to listen to find out what was going on. It was some time after Obama won Iowa, he told his listeners to go register as dems, and vote for hillary, not because he wanted Hillary to win or lose, but because he wanted the race to go on as long as possible so Obama would be bloodied up a bit and didn’t think the RNC or the media were going to do it. This is how I understood what he was thinking.Who knows if it was enough to actually make a difference, but he had a serious run in with Brunner in Ohio over it.

  210. birdgal

    me too. during the NH primary, the campaign urged us to vote absentee so we would have more time election day to support gotv activities. i told them i had waited all my life to cast my vote, in person, for the first viable female candidate. i know it sounds kinda weird, but it really meant a lot to me to go into that voting booth and vote for hillary clinton.

  211. lyn67

    I think he may be close to Florida City…he came, with family and neighbors to help us when I was working with the Red+ after a hurricane…he also personally rustled up help from the base nearby…muscle, tools, water, buckets, food, and on and on. He muttered to a friend of mine that Tampa would get Fed help…Florida City would need human help. Those quoted words spread like wildfire and we have loved him since.

  212. alcina Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
    birdgal

    me too. during the NH primary, the campaign urged us to vote absentee so we would have more time election day to support gotv activities. i told them i had waited all my life to cast my vote, in person, for the first viable female candidate. i know it sounds kinda weird, but it really meant a lot to me to go into that voting booth and vote for hillary clinton.

    ————————————————————-

    The day that I voted for Senator Clinton, I felt great for the entire day. I live in CA, and with the way the polls were going, I felt like my voted counted for something. Little did I know, that she would win by 10 points.

  213. What I remember about all those wonderful states that Hillary won was the way the media downplayed and ridiculed her accomplishments.

    I will never forgive or respect them again for the games they have played in this election. Not only does the DNC have to be cleaned up but so do the media starlet wannabes.

    And I can’t help wonder how many more states Hillary would have won if not for the corruption of ACORN and Obama’s henchmen.

  214. admin-

    I know there is always the question of server space, but there are two really good items I would like to copy from Confluence over to here…posting the link just isn’t grabbing eyeballs lately.

    I will of course, give credit, location and source.

    If you object, just say so or put in spam. I’ll do it ~ 9 pm ET.

    Thanks as alwys, either way.

  215. JanH Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
    ************************
    that is why we must crush him november 4th.

  216. Well if the polls are tightening, I guess Obama is going to throw a few more “racist” insults at McCain, and both he and the media will up their dirty tricks a notch. 😉

  217. huckabee on fox playing his bass guitar in shirt and tie. hilarious. the guy is a hoot!

    night all. 🙂

    ps – go sox!

  218. Sorry if this was already posted, but Hannity’s America is doing Part II of Obama’s radical friends at 9pm eastern on fox. I did hear his say the first one was the highest rated Hannity’s America ever, and there have been more radicals surface, so they are doing a part 2.

  219. Jan H, I with you on that, I also have wondered how many she would have won to if she hadn’t been screwed by Obama and his henchmen

  220. I will never forgive or respect them again for the games they have played in this election. Not only does the DNC have to be cleaned up but so do the media starlet wannabes.
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    Today we have a corrrupt political party and a corrupt media. If I had to say which is worse for a society I would say a corrupt media. Jefferson would agree.

  221. What amazes me, is how the BO supporters believe that McCain has run a dirty campaign, and that his supporters are racists.

  222. birdgal, that what really pisses me off, that they have the balls to call the other side dirty, and what worse is that some people believe it. That makes me sick!

  223. Ladies and right thinking gentleman- this is from riverdaughter: spread it far and wide or even just parts of it… or not, as you wish.

    You don’t need permission to be angry, ladies

    Posted on Sunday October 19, 2008 by riverdaughter

    This election season has brought out the worst in both parties. It has pulled back the veil on the Democratic party, exposing a vicious sexism we used to vaguely sense but made valiant efforts to deny. We found out just how much contempt the privileged had for the working class. It’s a sneering, heartless anger that “those people” can’t get their $#%^ together, drive too much, got old and, dammit, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Models with PhDs in Architecture are pissed.

    It’s just as bad on the Republican side. Many of them see a country full of Willie Hortons and welfare cheats and godless, commie heathens with no sense of patriotism and they’re mad as Hell and not going to take it anymore.

    But women?

    Well, we’re not supposed to be angry about any of this. We’re supposed to be the better half. We’re supposed to be content to play a secondary supporting role, to be fulfilled with our unique dignity and mystery or some other condescending treacle that sounds like it came out of a missive from the Pope. Lanny Davis’ column in the Wall Street Journal on Friday, Hillary Made Obama a Better Candidate, is a perfect example of the “let’s give women a round of applause for being such great sports, helpers and clean-up team mates” genre.

    Lanny would have you believe that Hillary Clinton’s primary purpose, her divine purpose and the purpose for which she was uniquely created, was to be Barack Obama’s sparring partner. Yes, Hillary honed him and made him the candidate we see today.

    Forget your lying eyes that told you that Hillary was the better candidate and that adversity actually made her better as time went on. Forget the notion that maybe Hillary wanted the job as much or even more than Obama did. Forget that her ambition burned just as brightly. As Lanny sees it, she was just Obama’s help mate. I might add that this notion is one that Hillary herself is helping to perpetuate by her slavish devotion to a party that betrayed her. As much as I admire her, she is not setting a very good example.

    But there is one section of Lanny’s letter to to the ladies that is more irritating than the rest:

    The second claim often repeated late in the primaries is that the Clintons wouldn’t really have their hearts in campaigning for Mr. Obama and that “Hillary Democrats” would become “Reagan Democrats” who would support Mr. McCain. There always was a danger that certain working-class/rural voters who strongly supported Mrs. Clinton in such state primaries as Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia would not easily transfer their support to Mr. Obama. The same worry was often repeated about Democratic women who were angry or simply grieving about Mrs. Clinton not being picked as the nominee.

    Ladies, how many times have you heard a guy tell you that you have no reason to be angry or that your anger was cute or childish and that you’ll feel better later? I don’t know how many people I read on the blogs yesterday who singled out the above passage and quickly distanced themselves from the anger. I’ve even been guilty of doing it myself. That is not to say that cold-blooded pragmatism is not necessary for clearing our heads and thinking logically. But let us acknowledge the emotion that drives us to this point. We’re bloody pissed off. We’re full of righteous indignation. We’re angry.

    We just sat through eight of the most reactionary years in our nation’s history. George Bush has dragged science back into the stone age. He’s eroded whatever safety net this stingy ass country gives women. There we were, thrilled with the prospect that one of OUR gender, who was the absolute best candidate hands down, was going to take over the White House and start putting it all back together again. And she was done in by her own fricking party. Hillary Clinton could survive the media attacks. She rose above it. She could withstand the attacks from the Republicans. She eventually earned their grudging respect. But she could not survive the backstabbing manipulations and betrayal of her own party in the service of a man who wasn’t even qualified to serve as her apprentice.

    Damn straight we’re angry. It is now being reported that white boomer women are the voting bloc to get this year. Gee, now why would THAT be? Anyone want to take some guesses? Well, my resident expert, myself, having been born at the tail end of the baby boom generation, thinks that it’s because we don’t buy into Lanny Davis type messages. We don’t see ourselves as “helpers” with a “unique dignity”. We see ourselves as human beings with hopes and dreams of our own. We put our gifts, talents and hardwork into our careers and family and succeeded. And we don’t like being sidelined, perhaps for the remainder of our lifetimes, for some unprepared male who got a boost up because he has a penis and for no other discernable reason that anyone has been able to observe or explain.

    I am challenging a superdelegate to come here and explain it to us. Tell us WHY it had to be Obama and not Hillary. Come and tell us what the F%^& were you thinking??!

    If the Democrats lose this thing, it may very well be due to the anger of women. Obama made over $100 million in September. His ads are flooding every available slot. He is in our faces. The media is shoving him in our every orifice while it hammers on Sarah Palin’s inexperience. He has every possible advantage *including* Hillary Clinton campaigning for him better than anyone else in the country. She works harder for the candidate than he does for himself and he still has less than a 10 point lead in the polls. He can’t close the deal because boomer women are on the fence. They’ve been told they aren’t allowed to get angry with the fact that neither of the candidates are at all even the least little bit concerned with their interests. They’re not supposed to fume at losing their chance to make a historic change and vote for their own lives instead of the petty power plays of a bunch of disconnected Washington white middle aged insider men.

    Ladies, you don’t have to feel guilty about being angry. Anger is a healthy response to being threatened. It’s part of your survival tool kit. It helps you fight back, defend yourself and take what is rightfully yours. You wouldn’t be normal if you *weren’t* angry about being given no choice and treated like your whole political motivation has to do with the status of your uterus. You have every reason to be angry that in the midst of the firestorm when you are being called a c*nt, the country is forgetting that you will be hit harder than your male counterparts in the upcoming recession and that neither candidate has addressed this reality. You are justified in being angry that if Obama is elected, your dignity as a human being will be eroded by the unchecked misogynism and anger of his supporters directed at you, Sarah Palin and Hillary.

    Our means of getting even may not be vocal or visible. It may take cool logic and precision. But if anyone wants to tell me that I have no right to be angry they shouldn’t be surprised if they get one right to the kisser.

    Get used to it, Lanny.

    NOTE: I am serious about that offer to superdelegates. I want to hear what your reasoning was for “picking” Obama over Clinton. We know it wasn’t experience or qualifications. We know it wasn’t seniority, unless we’re counting penis years. So, come and tell us why you chose him over her. Don’t tell us why we should vote for him over McCain. We’re not voting for Obama. We told you this back in May. We aren’t changing our minds. But we need to do a retrospective analysis so this NEVER happens again and your testimonial would be very helpful to determining where the party went completely off the rails. You can reach us at theconfluence08 at yahoo dot com. Don’t wait until after the election is over. We want to know NOW.

  224. birdgal Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
    What amazes me, is how the BO supporters believe that McCain has run a dirty campaign, and that his supporters are racists.

    *******************************************

    this shouldn’t really surprise any of us…obama and his camp pulled the same stuff on hillary and bill…and then all obamas supporters (and the MSM) went on and on about what a dirty campaign hillary had run…and all the racism her camp had interjected into the race

    same old, same old…those obama people know how to sucker punch the public over and over again and come out smelling like roses…

    early voting begins tomorrow in florida…

  225. wbboei Says:
    Today we have a corrrupt political party and a corrupt media. If I had to say which is worse for a society I would say a corrupt media. Jefferson would agree.

    ===================

    So do I. So what can we do about creatng a new media that will be less corrupt, or at least not in the same way?

    Why is there no successful centrist web media thing between HuffPo and various rightwing sites?

  226. Well, it sure doesn’t look like the republicans are going to drop any bombs on Obama before the election. I imagine they really want NO part of this total mess of an economy and will find it easier to sit on the side lines and just bitch about how the democrats are making it worse.
    The republicans are not any better than Obama if they haven’t the guts to tell the American people the TRUTH. They are just as self-serving as the democrats!!!

  227. Lin67 Says:
    October 19th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
    ===========

    Re “Democrat for a Day”. This began as early as APRIL 2007 on a Florida OBAMA website. The ads talked about registering Dem just long enough to vote AGAINST Hillary. A similar thing turned up in NV and off and on through WA. This was an OBAMA project. (Cites at ironmyvote.com)

    You may be thinking of “Operation Chaos” which was Limbaugh’s project starting toward the end of the campaign, supposedly to prolong it. Limbaugh kept switching instructions about who he wanted his Repubs to vote for. After the Repub nomination was settled, some Repub women began voting for HIllary out of sympathy.

  228. I need a plumber and carpenter more than a financial wizard like Buffet or even Powell who just followed his CIC’s reckless endeavor.

    Powell has a lot of blame to share in this mess….

  229. JanH….Palin’s rallies has drawn more people then Obama’s recently.

    Also….if Obama was making all that money, why couldnt they even at least donate to Girls’ scouts remember a while back they’ve snubbed them?

  230. It is called reversed head stuff. You accuse the other group of what you are doing. Then people don’t see that you are doing it at all and did it first.

    He is a master at this.

  231. I do remember that. Obama has made it his life’s ambition to snub anyone he doesn’t find useful. The list is a long one!

  232. NewMexicoFan Says:

    October 19th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
    It is called reversed head stuff. You accuse the other group of what you are doing. Then people don’t see that you are doing it at all and did it first.

    He is a master at this.

    ————————————————————-

    I started noticing this, back in February. It is the Chicago way.

  233. justmeinmountdorafl

    In this Ward, I see a lot of McCain/Palin signs, but his strong hold is over by the University.

    Birdgal

    I wonder how many other understand this, besides people on big pink.

  234. “We’ve got conservatives demoralized and on the run.”

    FISA flip-flop? Moving to the right?

    Movement progressives. What a joke. Markos is just in it for the money.

  235. NMF: It is also one of the Alinsky techniques. I think, other PUMAs recognize it, but bots do not.

    Jan: Riverdaughter is a great website. It is my 2nd favorite. Big Pink is my first.

  236. NOTE: I am serious about that offer to superdelegates. I want to hear what your reasoning was for “picking” Obama over Clinton. We know it wasn’t experience or qualifications. We know it wasn’t seniority, unless we’re counting penis years. So, come and tell us why you chose him over her. Don’t tell us why we should vote for him over McCain. We’re not voting for Obama. We told you this back in May. We aren’t changing our minds. But we need to do a retrospective analysis so this NEVER happens again and your testimonial would be very helpful to determining where the party went completely off the rails. You can reach us at theconfluence08 at yahoo dot com. Don’t wait until after the election is over. We want to know NOW.
    ——————————————–
    This is called accountabilty. Without accountability civilization fails.

  237. Jan

    Thank you. I have 3 or 3 more from there, Frankly, I am stealing from them. We all used to trade back and forth… but truth to tell, I have nothing more to say that is original… I am tired and out of rhetoric, not ideas, but of different ways of saying it.

    That’s why I steal.

    wbboei helps mightly, admin is fabulous, many others here exhort with skill and passion… I am just tired. Especially when others…well, we’ve seen what happens, just recently, so I appreciate your appreciation.

    You share the good stuff you find…please keep it up. I will try to thank you in the future as well.

  238. Obama’s Secret Campaign Cash: Has $63 Million Flowed from Foreign Sources?

    Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:28 PM

    By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

    As Barack Obama reaped a stunning $150 million in campaign donations in September, bringing his total to more than $600 million, new questions have arisen about the source of his amazing funding.

    By Obama’s own admission, more than half of his contributions have come from small donors giving $200 or less. But unlike John McCain’s campaign, Obama won’t release the names of these donors.

    A Newsmax canvass of disclosed Obama campaign donors shows worrisome anomalies, including outright violations of federal election laws.

    For example, Obama has numerous donors who have contributed well over the $4,600 federal election limit.

    Many of these donors have never been contacted by the Obama campaign to refund the excess amounts to them.

    And more than 37,000 Obama donations appear to be conversions of foreign currency.

    According to a Newsmax analysis of the Obama campaign data before the latest figures were released, potential foreign currency donations could range anywhere from $12.8 million to a stunning $63 million in all. With the addition of $150 million raised in September, this amount could be much more.

    ………………………………….

  239. Emjay: I assume you have turned in for the evening but I sure want to thank you for positing that article by Riverdaughter (above). It is brilliant, and it hits the nail on the head.

  240. Reviewing the past year or so, two things become clear.

    The Democrats have become totally “the ends justify the means” and the media is totally in it for the money. The good thing about the latter is that the NBC route doesn’t work and they are losing share.
    Meanwhile Fox has bent over backwards to try to actually be “fair and balanced” and in contrast, have greatly improved and their ratings have soared.

    What hasn’t improved is the dearth of investigative reporters. Fox is now the best but I give you the NY Times article on Ayers and its pathetic lack of facts.
    What, for instance, is in the book Ayers wrote on education that Obama blurbed? Why wasn’t that even mentioned? Do you do that for just “a guy in the neighborhood”? What IS Ayers education philosophy? Is it still to radicalize students against the racism and oppression of America? Obama did that for 4 years. Does he still believe that that is what’s needed? What was his purpose as head of CAC? When Dohrn and Ayers hosted his meet-and-greet, did he not bother to find out who they were?
    Is it true that Ayers hasn’t endorsed Obama?

    I’m not even started about the things I want to know about Ayers. And then there’s Rezko. And Frank Davis, the communist to whom Obama referred in his book? What has he done and has anyone read THAT book? Then there’s Odinga. And what happened to the K person, Khalidi or something that was significant in O’s life. Where is the canvassing of the community that O ‘organized’?

    I haven’t begun to think about the dearth of info about Michelle and her law years, which evidently will be a big source of personnel in the WH.

    None of this is seen to be a big source of ratings and money and besides, if O wins, he should be a big source of money-making interviews to the faithful and that’s what matters.

    Back to the Democrats. They have totally embraced the “anything to win” creed. Whatever principles they espouse can be overlooked “because this is such an important election”. Suppressing votes, inventing votes, transferring votes, miscounting votes, anything for the cause. Threatening critics, personal destruction, lying, race cards, sexism, whatever works. And if it does work, what will we have?

    Dear Hillary, there are things more important than “having a Dem in the WH”. And one of them is if the party is corrupt and in charge of both branches, and there is no check or balance, and is being led by an unknown and unsavory man, maybe it is most important that there be a Rep. check on the socialist plans. McC may be wrong about some policies which Congress can veto but at least he has some honor.

  241. Obama, not McCain is playing the race card

    seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008279892_opin19krauthammer.html

    Let me get this straight. A couple of agitated yahoos in a rally of thousands yell something offensive and incendiary, and John McCain and Sarah Palin are not just guilty by association — with total strangers, mind you — but worse: guilty according to The New York Times of “race-baiting and xenophobia.”

    But should you bring up Barack Obama’s real associations — 20 years with Jeremiah Wright, working on two foundations and distributing money with William Ayers, citing the raving Michael Pfleger as one who helps him keep his moral compass (Chicago Sun-Times, April 2004) and the long-standing relationship with the left-wing vote-fraud specialist ACORN — you have crossed the line into illegitimate guilt by association. Moreover, it is tinged with racism.

    The fact that, when John McCain actually heard one of those nasty things said about Obama, he incurred the boos of his own crowd by insisting that Obama is “a decent person that you do not have to be scared (of) as president” makes no difference. It surely did not stop John Lewis from comparing McCain to George Wallace.

    The search for McCain’s racial offenses is untiring and often unhinged. Remember McCain’s Berlin/celebrity ad that showed a shot of Paris Hilton? An appalling attempt to exploit white hostility at the idea of black men “becoming sexually involved with white women,” fulminated New York Times columnist Bob Herbert. He took to TV to denounce McCain’s exhumation of that most vile prejudice, pointing out McCain’s gratuitous insertion in the ad of “two phallic symbols,” the Washington Monument and the Leaning Tower of Pisa.

  242. Obama pays uneasy visit to a N. Carolina barbecue joint

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/54437.html

    FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. — When Sen. Barack Obama entered a barbecue joint here to greet dozens of people eating lunch after church services on Sunday, Diane Fanning, 54, who works at a Sam’s Club, began yelling, “Socialist, socialist, socialist – get out of here!”

    It was unclear whether Obama heard her in the noisy restaurant, but others clearly did. One man standing next to Fanning, Lenox Bramble, 76, flashed an angry look at her. “Be civil, be courteous,” he admonished her.

    Another woman, Cecilia Hayslip, 61, yelled back at Fanning, “At least he’s not a war-monger!”

    It was a visit that underscored how divided North Carolina voters are with two weeks to go before the election.

    Bramble said he wouldn’t vote for Obama because he didn’t think Obama had enough experience. Bramble’s wife, Kit, 75, said Obama “was very nice” but that she’d been a conservative Republican since Barry Goldwater’s era and wouldn’t vote for Obama either.

    Fanning said she’d heard Colin Powell had endorsed Obama but that “Colin Powell is a RINO, R-I-N-O, Republican In Name Only.”

    Later, Obama came to the long table where Fanning and other members of a local First Presbyterian church were gathered. He held out his hand to her to shake it and asked, “How are you, ma’am?” but she declined to shake.

    He spoke at length with many of the others at the long banquet table, however, and got a much friendlier reception as he spoke about health care, taxes and social security. Betty Waylett, 76 and a Republican, said she’d vote for him. “You’re doing a great job,” she said.

  243. This is getting disgustingly beyond a joke

    .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express

    EXCLUSIVE: .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express
    October 19th, 2008
    (Sunday, October 19 – Filed by Mark Williams in Raton, New Mexico with the Stop Obama Tour) We learned at this morning’s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon.

    http://www.sacunion.com/mark/

  244. As one who is a stickler for manners, I have to say…I consider that woman pretty rude. Were I to run into Obama in a BBQ joint, and he offered me his hand , I’d shake it.

    Of course, while shaking I’d also have to say, “With all due respect Senator, why are you lying to the American people about your past associations?”

  245. Idun, so would I after a swift knee to the groin and a “thats for what you did to Hillary and all women out there” then i’d shake his hand.

  246. Emjay and wbboei: I am just getting more and more critical of Obama as I see the destruction of all the bounds of decency in our way of life and our attitudes to others that express their opinions and ask for honest answers about troubling issues.I have run out of patience and energy and my blogs of anger reflect the negative atmosphere that keeps growing and spreading in our daily lives .I never thought I would have to fear retaliation if,expressed an opinion,chose political candidate,posted a sign in my yard,wore a button,placed a sticker on my car or joined a wonderful source of information and expression.If this is how I must live for the rest of my days in this cell of threats,race cards and silence,then I want to get off.

    I still believe that Hillary is our only hope and nothing that anyone says will change my mind or my hopes.

    By ABM90

  247. Good Morning All

    The Visit to Roswell, NM was very successful. There was a large group of people there. This is a very sparcely populated area, but Rep. She really gathered a good group of people in the Alien Capital of the World.

  248. anybody else have a problem refreshing this site, takes forever and freezes up other application. Never happanned befor and it only happens here?

  249. I HATE to be petty but I would like some feedback about this as I’m fairly new to blogging and having been accused of ‘plagarizing’ the other day i wonder if this qualifies?

    I wrote this:
    The AA music world, in particular, has treated women like sex objects and little else for over a decade. We all know how insidious and hypnotic such messages can be. Rap, hip-hop and other music and videos portray women as pieces of meat and little else. The lyrics, like “I got 99 problems but a Bytch ain’t one of ‘em” perpetuate the visual perception of women as sexual objects and nothing more.

    We all wonder why the insults thrown at HRC, at Palin, at any woman opposed to a BO presidency has met with such vitriol. Do you honestly think it would have been permitted if a white presidential candidate had shown such disregard, allowed such lewd exploitive language in their campaign? Of course not.

    And I just found THIS on another blog. Coincidence? blogforce1 at nq.
    Mysogeny will be institutionalized by an Obama administration and be “culturally” promoted and “sold” to our children by the likes of Jay Z “99 reasons and a BITCH aint ONE” No women will be given any posts of importance in an Obama admin. ONLY APPTS. THAT ARE DEEMED “womens issues” posts. This BASTARD Obama MUST be STOPPED! Not just for us but for our daughters self esteem and respect! It is NOT over yet!

  250. Guiliani on FOX trashing the nyt article on Cindy.
    Interesting point: over the past few months the NYT have used these words to describe MO: strong-willed, athletic, funny, commanding, intelligent

    and these to describe Cindy:
    anorexic, frail, stiff, guarded, princess-diana-wannabe.

    hmmmmmm……..

  251. Anyone else see Maxine Waters at an ACORN event saying this:
    “George Bush has been the worst president in history. that’s all right. We’re getting ready to get rid of his A$$!”

    now, I don’t like GWB either but c’mon – a politician in public office saying this? Sound familiar?

    The rest of the footage clearly exhibits the bias of what’s supposed to be an unaffiliated tax-funded organization toward BO. And we’re paying for every voter registration ACORN signs up???

  252. nmf,

    could you comment on my 9:04 post? whaddaya think.

    Also, anyone else think the Cindy M hit-piece might be a preemptive move to protct MO from upcoming revelations or is that just wishful thinking?

    D@mn but i wish JM and Rudy would release the really incriminating stuff against BO I’m sure they have.

  253. I watched the SNL video with Sarah Palin. Tina Fey is certainly no Sarah Palin. I like Sarah more and more. The energy, the radiance!

  254. By the way, I think John McCain ‘s campaign should put Sarah Palin on the air at the same time as BHO’s prime time half hour special. We’ll see who get the ratings!

  255. basil, I will comment on your 9:04.. If we are comparing those two paragraphs, I would not call it plagiarism. When you write about an idea or a thought, it has to be unique enough to say you own the idea and then others can write about it in their own words but giving credit to you the originator of that idea. As a researcher, I deal with it everyday and technically it is easy for us to say I thought of it first and of course you have to get it published before anyone else does. But for these common place analytical ideas related to the socio-political events of the day, it is hard to pinpoint and say I thought of it first. All we can do is describe and say it in our own words (as long as it is not copy and paste, verbatim, it is not plagiarism.) If you got inspired by a piece or agree whole hearted about another’s piece and write about it, it is polite to acknowledge that source.

  256. ABM 90: let us hope McCain wins. I do not have access to republican internals in the battle ground stated but I suspect that over all this big media propaganda the real picture is better than they let on. However, it is always in flux but the momentum right now is in the right direction. If there is anything to this terrorist strike threat then to the extent it becomes public bambi will fail because people do not trust him.

    For me it still comes down to two alternative propositions:

    1. Obama cannot win the general election

    2. Obama cannot govern, if he does win

    This is not an enviable position for the country to be in, especially when big media has poisened the well, fed us propaganda and done everything it could to destroy the last vestiges of civility.

    But it is where we are.

    Finally, McCain is a patriot. As such, he has a moral obligation to unleash the October surpise. It may offend his sensiblites as an officer and a gentleman but there is more at stake here than personal vanity. I continue to believe that Rudy has it and it does relate to MO.

    What the hell has happened to the New York Times. MSNBC is a gutter snipe, but the NYT is or at least was a venerated journalistic institution since the Civil War-as I recall. Today, the inmates are running the asylm.

  257. By the way, I think John McCain ’s campaign should put Sarah Palin on the air at the same time as BHO’s prime time half hour special. We’ll see who get the ratings!
    —————————————–
    Good idea. Give us an alternative to yet another empty bambi sermon. He is nauseating. A big empty suit. Dont know who he is. Dont know who controls him. Do track record of results= the man who never was. Why would anyone in their right mind put this bozo in charge at this perilous time. If they put Sara on at the same time his megalamania and misogyn could not stand it.

  258. It is so disgusting to hear how they are describing Cindy McCain, she looks more like a first lady than MO does.
    My description of Cindy would be elegant, manerly, kind, caring and beautiful! My description of MO would be hateful, racist, athletic, avg. looking and downright mean!

  259. wbboei, McCain seems like the kind of guy who wants to win on merit and perhaps he does not want that one big surprise to be the reason people think he won. Or that they have seen how Obama with media’s help wiggles out of everything given time. So they may not want to give enough time for recovery when they release it. Also if they have more than one thing, they should release it all at once in the final week — like the show stopper on July 4th. At this point they want to go after that 20% or so who are not wedded to either candidate. I am also waiting to see when he will acknowledge his moral obligation (to stop Obama.)

  260. lindax,

    All the Sarah Palin visit to SNL did was show that Tina Fey is out of her element. Her exaggerations are ridiculously insulting and biased and she will never have the grace Sarah does.

  261. The NYT doing a hit job on Cindy McCain is unconscionable. We have all made mistakes, but her humanity and class shine through. MO, otoh, exudes hatred, racism, and anger.

    BO is paying big money for advertising, so he is buying a compliant press.

  262. Well said birdgal, I totally agree on the NYT hit piece. I sure hope there are enough of us out here. They’re talking about Powell again. Does anybody care?? Even the middle lost respect for Powell.

  263. Greta seems to be the only show worth watching. I don’t watch very much news, but I will watch Greta occasionally.

  264. A hit piece on Cindy McCain is par for the course for the Obama-bought-and-payed-for media. As soon as it was rumored that this was going to happen, both Obama and his wife should have been front and center denouncing this action. Instead, as par for the course, they will wait and wait and wait until the damage is done and then cry wolf.

    The two of them are a scourge on America and should have their citizenships revoked. It is to be hoped that history looks upon this period as simply a plague upon the rights and beliefs of any American who refuses to tow the Obama doctrine of hate and violence.

  265. africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

    Important Update: US Law firm enters into agreement to represent API in The Michelle Obama tapes to be released soon in the US

    Posted by africanpress on October 20, 2008

    The touchy interview tapes of Michelle Obama, the wife of the US Presidential Candidate Barack Obama is soon ready for release in the US and will be aired unedited.
    The release has taken long due to the fact that API wanted to clear all legal hurdles and be safe from getting sued by any one. API and a US Law firm – LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG has just entered into an agreement giving the law firm the right to represent API in all matters that may arise due to the Michelle Obama interview and the release of the tapes in the US.

    API has realised that the interview with Mrs Obama is of great significance in the coming elections. The release of the tapes is not intended to derail the elections or to destroy the chances that Mr Obama may have in getting elected the first black president of the United States.

    For us in API we wanted to get the tapes released – aired by a news channel that has a good reputation in the US, one that has listeners interested in the elections.

    Many networks have contacted us and due to the fact that we in API do not know them from before, it took time to go through all requests from the networks that took contact with us and to choose one that will air the tapes unedited.

    API is not interested in selling the tapes to any network. Our demand is that the tapes must be aired unedited by the network that we finally select.

    While doing the selection, we have landed into a problem with some networks who have taken upon themselves to inform the readers that they have already got an agreement to air the tapes.

    So far, no network has been selected and yet we have received signed agreements by three networks claiming to have been finally given the go ahead to release the tapes.

    One kind reader has helped us a great deal by forwarding one email that has been circulated in the US about a deal. We want to state categorically that we are not asking any one for money in exchange for airing the tapes.

    After reading the email below, we were very shocked at the turn of events:

  266. great article on psychological warfare, media and polling bias waged on behalf of BO against the public:

    http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/

    excerpt:

    The illusory quest for conformist decision-making in the 2008 presidential election

    Say, for example, that you were an Obama supporter who watched the Vice Presidential debate and felt that Palin had done well and was a more effective debater than Biden — though not well enough to change your mind about voting for the Obama-Biden ticket. Immediately afterward you encounter an online poll, asking you to vote on who won the debate. What do you do? I suspect that most, if not nearly all, Obama supporters would lie and still vote in the poll that Biden had won the debate, even though they felt that Palin had in fact defeated him. But why do so? As an Obama supporter, you still want your candidate to win, so that every action you take should revolve around only one question: Will this help Obama win? Probably unconsciously, people assume without really thinking about why, that if enough people say Biden won the debate, then a general consensus will be reached that Biden did win the debate, and as a result some vague category of Americans who up until that point had not been Obama supporters will change their allegiances and in reality vote for Obama-Biden on election day.

  267. that zombietime article looks interesting from a quick browse — should go back and read it all. thanks for posting it.

  268. Joe Biden Says Electing Barack Obama Guarantees An International Crisis

    “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.” — Joe Biden

    “Biden to Supporters: ‘Gird Your Loins’, For the Next President ‘It’s Like Cleaning Augean Stables'”
    By Matthew Jaffe
    ABC News’ Political Radar
    October 20, 2008

    Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

    “Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

    “I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

  269. Biden to Supporters: “Gird Your Loins”, For the Next President “It’s Like Cleaning Augean Stables”
    October 20, 2008 7:35 AM
    ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

    “Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will NOT be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking.
    SNIP
    if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

    “I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

    SNIP

    “Gird your loins,” Biden told the crowd. “We’re gonna win with your help, God willing, we’re gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It’s like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy.”

    SNIP

    “I’ve forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it,” the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. “This guy has it. But Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”

    “There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision’,” Biden continued. “Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

  270. Jan……….NOPE….elizabeth is on her own

    I can’t stand that show…… i was flipping channels and ended up checking in and am so sorry i did

  271. meiyingsu Says:
    October 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    ha ha ha….. we posted the same article

    i guess it boils down to this

    BIDEN article = code words for obama ain’t ready to be president

  272. Obama Assembles U.S.’s `Largest Law Firm’ to Monitor Election
    By James Rowley
    Oct. 20 (Bloomberg) — Barack Obama and John McCain have a litigation game plan to accompany their election strategy.
    Both candidates have armies of volunteers to ring doorbells and get voters to the polls. They are also forming squadrons of lawyers who are filing challenges and preparing in case Election Day doesn’t settle the contest for the White House.
    Legal battles unfolding in Ohio, Indiana and Wisconsin provide fresh evidence of the potential fights to come over ballot access in an election marked by unprecedented spending to increase the number of voters in strategically important states.
    The millions of dollars that have been poured into registration drives have yielded millions of new voters across the country. Those same efforts have now generated heated battles in both parties with cries of voter fraud and intimidation that may threaten the integrity of the election.
    Election officials, meanwhile, are braced for huge turnout and the problems that could create with long lines, malfunctioning machines and challenges to voters.
    Already, the U.S. Supreme Court has handed Ohio Democrats a victory, dissolving a court order obtained by Republicans to force state officials to release the list of 200,000 new voters whose names or addresses don’t match government databases.
    Democrats’ Accusations
    Democrats accused Republicans of trying to improperly disqualify voters.
    In Florida, Democratic lawyer Charles H. Lichtman has assembled almost 5,000 lawyers to monitor precincts, assist voters turned away at the polls and litigate any disputes that can’t be resolved out of court.
    “On Election Day, I will be managing the largest law firm in the country, albeit for one day,” said Lichtman, 53, a Fort Lauderdale corporate lawyer and veteran of the five-week recount after the 2000 election when Florida eventually delivered the presidency to George W. Bush.
    Obama’s lawyers also have pressed allegations that Michigan Republicans planned to use mortgage-foreclosure lists to challenge voters. Indiana labor unions allied with Democratic presidential nominee Obama, an Illinois senator, are battling a Republican chairman over early voting in the state’s second- largest county.

    SNIP
    The McCain campaign wouldn’t say how many lawyers it has deployed or how it is preparing for possible court fights.
    “We are not jumping to conclusions that litigation efforts are going to be widespread,” said Ben Porritt, a McCain spokesman.
    Hayden Dempsey, a Tallahassee lawyer who chairs Lawyers for McCain in Florida, said his party isn’t “trying to lawyer up nearly so much as the Democrats.” Republicans are trying to mobilize voters while Florida Democrats appear to be trying to “win this through having the greatest number of lawyers.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.hk4HvCkpiE&refer=home

  273. basil

    would you do me a favor and point to where someone accused you of plagerism?

    I missed it and want to read up on it to defend you if I can.

  274. So in other words, the Dems are so drugged up that no matter if McCain actually wins this election they will fight to the death to change things around to their way of thinking.

    hmmm…interesting that they weren’t willing to do that for Gore. I guess Obama truly is their narcotic of choice.

  275. I can’t wait for those plumbers and “bitter, gun-touting” people in PA and OH have their say on Nov. 4th!! Like McCain said, MSNBC’s gonna have a long night if he wins lol

  276. Let the press keep ranting that it is over and Obama has it won. All it will do is lower democratic turnout among new and occassional voters. They never voted before and now everyone says Obama has it won I do not have to vote.

  277. wbboei, McCain seems like the kind of guy who wants to win on merit and perhaps he does not want that one big surprise to be the reason people think he won. Or that they have seen how Obama with media’s help wiggles out of everything given time. So they may not want to give enough time for recovery when they release it. Also if they have more than one thing, they should release it all at once in the final week — like the show stopper on July 4th. At this point they want to go after that 20% or so who are not wedded to either candidate. I am also waiting to see when he will acknowledge his moral obligation (to stop Obama.)
    —————————————-
    PM: I agree with your analysis above. The attack on Cindy McCain by NYT is a tell that something negative on the tall athletic intelligent scoopjaw will be forthcoming. Maybe its the whitey tapes, maybe its the API interview, maybe its something that champion of the truth Corsi or Berg have, but whatever it is these things do not happen in a vaccum. Maybe its just mo showing working class people how the better half lives and why it is not declasse eat caviar lobster and champaign for a $snack and why being a demimonde can be a real kick in the ass.

    Life upon the wicked stage
    Aint never what a girl supposes
    Stage door jonnies arent hanging
    With gems and roses

    Oh to play a demimonde role
    With soul
    Ask the hero how he likes the way I lure
    When I play a hussey or a paramour
    Yet once the curtains down my life is pure
    And how I dread it . . . .

    (ya, sure, yabetcha, oakledockle mish! you aint foolin’ nobody gal).

  278. Now I see why Obama was campaigning in NH the other day. He may be afraid he will lose those 4 electoral votes. His once double digit lead is shrinking and is now down to 7. Seems to me I remember another lead Obama had in NH that was not what it appeared to be.

  279. Let the press keep ranting that it is over and Obama has it won. All it will do is lower democratic turnout among new and occassional voters
    ————————————–
    another disenfranchisement strategem perhaps?

  280. Is just me, or is this fraud trying to buy this election? How about those $200,000,000 he has not accounted for? Why isn’t the FBI all over this stuff? I gotta tell you, the things that clown gets away with blows my mind!

  281. Normally I would agree that the turnout would be lower, but this time around I think Obama is going to push hard for those votes. Damned be those who stay home instead of kneeling before the evil king.

  282. wbboei, what surprises me the most about McCain is how clean for a politician he is — words and deed and all (except perhaps Keating 5 and even there he learnt his lesson quickly and did not repeat it — he has not given much ammunition to his opponents on what HE has done wrong. ) Sure, he sucked up to Bush some in the last 8 years but that is a left over reaction to 2000 and then his plan for now. You know, my truthmeter is my husband. I can get carried away with intensity on what I want and in this election it was Hillary and hence my passionate dislike of Obama from the start (I thought he was just a spoiler but turned out to be much more worse). My husband took one look at him around the middle of the primary and he said no to him and it didn’t take him long to hop on board with McCain — first as a protest vote but later as the only honorable alternative to Obama. I would like McCain to win this without any October surprises but at this point he just has to win.

  283. Jan, I think the republicans will go to the polls in droves — Obama is the biggest referendum there is as I have said before and the rank and file, Repubs like Palin.

  284. I AM F***N angry about the media….I don’t F***N understand why THEY ALL rooting for this
    Con Artist …….What does he have??? ALL LIES and just empty words. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS…..F*****N unbelievable…..

    I hope the American people will not be fooled by this socialist, elitist, con artist, car salesman, liar, phony, radical, un-American value, unexperience…name it……

    WE DESERVE an honorable man, like Jonh Mccain…….

  285. In our state a trainload of Obama lawyers was travelling over a high mountain trestle and the foundation gave way. The train and its occupants tumbled down the mountain crevice never to be heard from again.

    This was adjudged to be a tragedy but not for the reasons you might expect. The tragedy is the fact that there were two empty seats. The greater tragedy is that Wexler was not aboard.

    (Note: joke)

  286. pm317

    When the primaries started it was my intention to vote for whom ever was the democratic nominnee (hopefully Hillary) as I always did. When the revelations about his church came out and Obama stood up and said I have never heard those comments and nor do I agree with Rev Wright, that did it. No one attends any church or organization for 20 years that does not agree with what is being preached. His comments sealed the deal for me that he is a liar who can not be trusted to lead this country.

  287. wbboei: Your words of wisdem and your knowledge of the complexities that exist in this troubled world give me hope and I thank you for the boost for my morale.It is difficult for me to look back at my life and see the wonderful times and the hard times and then to ahead to the unknowns that will be imposed on us by The Emporer and his misguided,misinformed and yes frightening cult followers.Dangerous combination of poisened minds.

    Thanks to both you and Emjay for becoming a positive segment of my life.

    By ABM90

  288. rjk1957..you are totally correct……..

    THE CON artist is a LIAR period……plus his association with the terrorist and REZKO…

    If he wins, where are the decency of American people? Are we living on a another planet or what?

  289. I AM F***N angry about the media….I don’t F***N understand why THEY ALL rooting for this
    ——————————————-
    It is because they embraced him without vetting him and as the evidence against him comes out and begins to mount the falliblity of their judgment is drawn into high relief.

    The operative question is if he happens to get elected and fails as biden intimates how long will big media go on covering for them. If past is prologue the answer is forever. How long they will be listened to is a different matter.

    The responsibilites of the office will reveal his severe deficiencies as a leader, and the 2010 election will be an eye opener. You cannot believe now the overwheming animonsity that he will be subject to if he steals this election. The takedown of the man will be brutal.

    Big media will be powerless to prevent it. People should take heed in the admonition of biden. What will obama do to us within 6 months? I suspect it will be a move toward dictatorship. As Camus said the welfare of the people has always been the alibi of tyrants.

  290. I was listenning briefly to McCain as he tore apart bambi’s 95% tax cut plan. If I understood him correctly waffles is basically buying the poor vote by increasing the earned income credit. I worked as a tax preparer for one season and I was applalled. The abuse is obscene and often the applicants ask for a rapid refund spending upto 600 to walk out with a check for 5000. The credit only allows for two dependents so if you have three you sell the ssn to someone who doesn’t have one. All they have to say is they provided 75% of the care there is no verification. So if I am interpreting this correctly Joe the plumber may have his present tax liability reduced a small amount but those who only worked part time paid no taxes will see an increase in the money that is already
    alloted? Exigent circumstances may at times require supplemental help, but I have seen first hand the multitude of scams. Sorry for venting.

  291. Let me see if I have that Biden statement right… within six months, Obama is going to do something the american public won’t like or think is right, and Biden is pleading with us (before the mysterious event) not to question Dear Leader, even if we think he’s wrong. That pretty much it?

    So…can we at least ask Dear Leader how long he’s been planning this “event”? Two years? Four ?

  292. wbboei – I’m with ABM90 – I really love your writing! (Very nice invocation of Edna Ferber’s “demimonde.” LOL! New nickname for Stinky: “Gaylord.”)

  293. I met Huckabee and wife at Gov’s mansion at opening of Clinton Library…Very nice and he pardoned my hero, Keith Richards. If you have see the Scorces movie “Shine the Light”, it was a performance for Bill’s 6oth birthday at Beacon theater in NYC. Mick referred to the President being here( nodding at Hillary) and then said former President Bill Clinton is also here….anyway, lets keep hoping the polls get closer…

  294. Idunn Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    Let me see if I have that Biden statement right… within six months, Obama is going to do something the american public won’t like or think is right, and Biden is pleading with us (before the mysterious event) not to question Dear Leader, even if we think he’s wrong. That pretty much it?

    So…can we at least ask Dear Leader how long he’s been planning this “event”? Two years? Four ?

    * * * * *
    Idunn, all: Might this be why he voted “yes” on FISA? Was he signaling his intent about civil liberties?

  295. My guess is that they have it in their minds to go after “someone” and they’re setting the stage now.

    I’d say it was Israel…but that would be crazy, huh?

  296. Bambi: “We have it on very good authority, the intel is indisputable , that Israel was behind the bombing of the White House. I know this is unbelievable, but you’ll just have to trust us on this one guys.”

  297. CNN has McCain down only by 5%. Ras only by 4%! This is gonna be closer than Obama’s girlfriend (the MSM) would like it to be lol! Mack might even pull it off!!!

  298. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.
    —————————————–
    ! ! ! Revelle, revelle, revelle ! ! !

    1. What is the crisis or crisis that Biden guarantees will happen within 6 months??

    2. How will Obama respond????

    3. How will that response affect us???????

    This statement is too important to ignore.

    Now that this has been said, lets hear from both candidates on this issue.

    If big media does not pursue this statement which is made on the eve of the election, then they have no rasion d etre–reason to exist.

  299. Okay, so the following list of stars attended a fundraiser for McCain in Beverly Hills sometime back, so I’m assuming they are pro-McCain. LOL…I was beginning to think they had all drunken the koolaid!

    Pro-McCain:

    Dean Cain
    James Caan
    Jon Voight
    Robert Davi
    Lou Ferrigno
    Adam Carolla
    Lacy Chabert
    Angie Harmon
    Victoria Jackson
    Gerald McRaney
    Jon Cryer
    Lorenzo Lamas
    Kevin Sorbo
    Patricia Heaton
    George Newbern
    Robert Duvall
    Jerry Bruckheimer

  300. Wbboei…you don’t REALLY think the media is going to question Dear Leader, do you? Anyway, you should just stop worrying yourself over that statement. We’re in good hands.

  301. Emjay,
    that is so kind of you but I don’t know where that post is. It was an excerpt from a NQ article I loved and brought over here. I condensed it and at the top I said it was from NQ and at the bottom I gave credit to the author. (Ani or sarahinitaly – can’t remember which).

    The next thing I knew Ani posted that she/he didn’t mind if i took some of the material and posted it eleswhere but I should give the author credit, which I already had done.

    I would have let it slide except admin had just put up a new thread and Ani posted the same thing there so it ticked me off.
    No problem coz I went back to NQ and replied to one of Ani’s threads and said she/he shouldn’t accuse someone of not giving an author credit unless she was sure it was true and if she had bothered to scroll to the bottom of my comments she would have seen i did in fact acknowledge the author.

    that’s all.

    WHEW!!!!!

  302. Rudy called Rush to discuss Biden’s latest gaffe.

    Biden says:

    “Mark my words it will not be 6 months before the world tests him like JK.”

    Rudy’s response;
    “Let’s elect someone the world won’t want to test like JM.
    I can’t figure out why Biden raised this but since he did we should answer it.”

    Biden;
    “Our poll numbers are gonna go down and I beg you to hang with us.” (at a Seattle rally)

    WTF????

    Rudy finds the remark puzzling.
    “If he’s predicting the candidate he’s supporting is going to motivate an attack on the US there must be a reason.
    We’ll have a generated international crisis to test the guy’s mettle.
    Is there a way to avoid this testing?
    If we elect an experienced leader like JM we could avoid this altogether.”

    ROTF!!!!

    “When Biden makes a comment like this they hide him for about a week so we can’t get to him.”

    Rudy says Biden is raising the issue of whether BO is prepared and whether the world sees him as prepared.

  303. Edna Ferber’s “demimonde.” LOL! New nickname for Stinky: “Gaylord.”)
    —————————————-
    Yes, it took Edna Ferber to write the story, Jerome Kerne to put it to beautiful music and Oscar Hammerstein to write the unforgettable words. The end result: Showboat.

    Ferber was a member of the Round Table at the Algonquin Hotel in Manhatten in the 1920s. So was Willa Cather and the acerbic Dorothy Parker. Ferber and Cather were eloquent choroniclers of life in the small town, and life along the Mississippi in the latter half of the 19th century. All three of them cold sure paint a picture:

    “in towns like these, buried in wheat and corn, under the stimulating extremes of climate: burning summers when the world lies green and billowy beneathe a brilliant sky, when one is fairly stiffled in vegatation, in the color and smell of strong weeds and heavy harvests; blustery winters with little snow when the whole country is stripped bare and gray as sheet iron.”

    (My Antonia–Willa Cather)

  304. Rudy says the only time he has seen such over-confidence in a presidential campaign was election day 4 years ago when the pundits were talking about who Kerry would appoint to cabinet posts.

    He says he was sitting with Yogi berra at an Italian-American dinner recently and Yogi said (about the election) it ain’t over ’til it’s over.”

    hehehehe

  305. basil9 9:04 post

    Sorry, Basil9, I have been away from the computer. I really don’t know. The idea was there, but it was not verbatim. I am not an expert on these things. I could have been enough of your idea to qualify, but you need someone who is an expert, and that is just not me.

  306. Biden statements are indeed puzzling (and alarming!)

    Henry, on RD, someone had posted an info about how much each tax bracket will receive in tax credit and the cross over happens at around $60K. People getting less than 60K will receive disproportionate amounts back under Obama’s plan with the lowest bracket getting the most money, if I remember right. (which corroborates McCain point about buying poor people’s votes.)

  307. Basil: two other yogisms that bambi should take to heart:

    1. when you come to a fork in the road-take it.

    2. when a friend on the golf course asked him how far to the green, Yogi told him that depends upon the distance.

  308. EMAIL FROM MOVEON; the advantages of getting mail from ex-allies.

    So, MSM has been declaring for like 3 weeks that “it’s over except for the voting”. But polls show Obama is not running away with this, and MoveOn’s email acknowledges this.

    &&&&&&&&&&
    Subject: Polls are tightening – Host for Obama in Cream Ridge

    McCain and Palin are upping their attacks, and the race is tightening. So next weekend (10/25-26), we’re holding more MoveOn for Obama Parties to make sure Barack has enough volunteers to counter the smears, and get voters to the polls. Can you host a party in ?

    Host a party

    Dear MoveOn member,

    For weeks, Obama’s been holding a small lead in most polls, both nationally and in key swing states.

    But in the last few days, several polls have shown the race tightening as undecided voters are being deluged by attack ads and robo-calls.1 (ABC News says they describe Obama as “Baby-Killing, America-ignoring, Hollywood-loving, Terrorist-Loving.”)2

    Our goal is to ensure Obama has enough volunteers on the ground to fight back against these smears from the McCain-Palin camp.

    So we’re holding our final weekend (10/25-26) of MoveOn for Obama Parties to call into battleground states for Barack. And we still need a party host in Cream Ridge. This is our best chance to give Obama the volunteers he needs for the big get-out-the-vote push in the days leading up to the Election. Can you host a party?

  309. Biden’s comments as scary as they are ( and they are!!!) it is a GIFT from Biden!!!

    A Gift for the republicans (McCain/Palin) to open up and bring this election back around to being about Foreign policy (America’s Safety) and tye it all up with a world wide economic ribbon!

    GO JOHNNY GO!!
    GO JOHNNY GO!!

    JOHNNY BE GOOD!

  310. I did not become overly concerned about this foreign threat until I learned that Colin Powell has joined their foreign policy team. As in Iraq and Moby Dick–he will see no land where there is no land . . . and greater tragedies will ensue.

  311. I think the crisis will be in AFRICA….on the border of KENYA/SOMALIA….remember those photos, odinga, and the latest hijacking of the Ukrainian vessel…..

    🙂

  312. So, is the Joe ‘Foot in my mouth’ Biden’s gloom and doom scenario related to the FBI vetting of the two campaigns.

    The idea someone above had to placing a tv show featuring Sarah [and Todd] Palin opposite to nObama is an absolutely astoundingly brilliant idea. It would not even have to be the full 30 minutes, just the first fifteen minutes to blow him off the tubes. Someone make this suggestion to someone who can get it done. giterdone!!!!!

    If McCain has this election stolen from him and the Republicans, we will lose Sarah and Todd Palin, the first really truly American family that the national level has ever produced and be plunged into deep deep dispair and our country will be annilated by the Dimocrats and their Messiah -just my humble opinion after the better part of two years following politics of the undemocratic Democratic Party on a daily basis. Neither an honorable patriot or an honorable second family will represent our American daughters, sons, and future generations.

    My prayer is now two fold: that an elephant caress nObama with his toes on November 4th and that, if reincarnation does exist, that nObama come back as a penguin and live that life for eternity – I will even grant him Emporer Penguin status if he desires.

  313. I sooo agree with you , djia.
    __________________________________________
    djia Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    Biden’s comments as scary as they are ( and they are!!!) it is a GIFT from Biden!!!
    __________________________________________

    Use this and tick, tock, tick, tock, run out the clock!
    Thank you, Biden, for the gift. I hope PUMA’s spread this far and wide. Hannity and Greta, sound the alarms!!!!!!

  314. McCain asking for people to send in videos on how they are like Joe the Plumber, the email from McCain’s ecampaign follows:

    How are you “Joe the Plumber”?
    Tell us in 30 seconds…

    We want you to tell us how you are “Joe the Plumber” and why you’re supporting John McCain and Sarah Palin in thirty seconds. You could even see your video as an official McCain TV ad.

    By now, “Joe the Plumber” is a household name and has become a symbol of Barack Obama’s plan to “spread the wealth around.” During a recent campaign event in Toledo, Ohio, “Joe the Plumber” asked a simple question and got a surprising answer from the Democratic nominee. When he asked why Barack Obama’s tax plan was going to punish him for working hard and living the American Dream, Barack Obama responded, “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

    In that brief exchange, the American people got to see what this campaign is all about … a choice between honoring the hard work of everyday Americans like “Joe the Plumber” and increasing taxes to “spread the wealth.” In these tough economic times, there is no doubt that John McCain and Sarah Palin stand firmly on the side of hardworking “everyday Joes” who understand the value of honest work and the American Dream.

    That’s why we want to hear from you and share your story with the American public. It’s simple … make an ad telling us why you are “Joe the Plumber” in 30 seconds and we’ll put the best ad on the air as a TV ad.

    Share your story of living the American Dream, working hard, or owning a small business to tell America why you’re standing with John McCain and Sarah Palin. Click here today to learn more and submit your video before Friday, October 24th.

    Then help us spread the word about this exciting opportunity – tell your friends to visit JohnMcCain.com/Joe to submit their own video and share their story.
    ____________________________________________
    30 second videos, doable, huh?

  315. Did Maria Shrivers husband Arnold S. endorse Obama?

    What is going on? Does he think the constitution will be changed so he can run for president?

  316. love it

    COLUMBUS, Ohio — A man who was dressed in a squirrel costume was escorted from the Ohio Statehouse steps on Monday morning while Gov. Ted Strickland, U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown and Mayor Michael Coleman were discussing negative campaigning by Republicans.

    The squirrel held up a sign that said, “Don’t Let Obama + ACORN Steal Ohio.”

    Strickland, Brown and Coleman stood on the Statehouse steps to call for an end to what they called “lying, deceitful ads” by Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, 10TV’s Patrick Bell reported.

    http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2008/10/20/story_squirrel_dems.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=102

  317. pm317 Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    rgb, we should sign up to host those moveon parties using hte fake addresses on those ACORN registrations.
    ==========

    LOL! Then teh bots would show up and be under a viaduct or something.

  318. As for a deliberate ‘testing’ of Obama as Pres … er, didn’t Hillary predict the saem thihng, last fall? That WHOEVER was elected (including her), the enemies would do such a test.

    She didnt’ talk about doing something scary in response, though.

  319. Wasn’t there an article posted in the last month about someone called Chavez in South America wanting the US to hold a new Constitutional Convention to re-work our Constitution?

    That sounds like Obama’s next project.

  320. Thanks to both you and Emjay for becoming a positive segment of my life.

    By ABM90
    ==============

    Hope to get added to that list! 🙂

  321. wbboei Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    In our state a trainload of Obama lawyers was travelling over a high mountain trestle and the foundation gave way. The train and its occupants tumbled down the mountain crevice never to be heard from again.

    This was adjudged to be a tragedy but not for the reasons you might expect. The tragedy is the fact that there were two empty seats. The greater tragedy is that Wexler was not aboard.

    (Note: joke)

    =============

    Alas, alas for England

  322. JanH Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    So in other words, the Dems are so drugged up that no matter if McCain actually wins this election they will fight to the death to change things around to their way of thinking.

    hmmm…interesting that they weren’t willing to do that for Gore. I guess Obama truly is their narcotic of choice.=============

    It’s taking me a while to see the pattern. Press went after Goldwater, Gore, Hillary, now McCain/Palin. The common factor is honest competent reform. When they see a real reformer, theyh go after him/her, regardless of party or ideology.

  323. Illinois Underground Says:
    So, Stinky was the Messiah, then Superman… and this week according to Biden, he’s Heracles (Hercules)? Can someone please make something of these hyperbolic references? This is getting SO ridiculous
    =================

    He’s Rudolph teh Red-Nosed Reindeer! SErsioly.

    The physical feature that has been a handicap all his life (so he claims) turns out to be the key to saving the world! “Then how the reindeer loved him …”

    He wants to go down in His-to-reee!

    Sersiouly. Rudolph is the classic Campbellian Hero. Luke Skywalker. Fatherless boy seeks father, saves the world. “In the worng place at teh worng time, so of course they became heroes.”

    IN Campbell’s sources this is a ‘tale type’ about a “boy whose father was a bear.” Raised by a ‘single mom’ with a strange absent father. Also ‘unpromising’ [ie “funny looking”] hero. Elements of Ugly Ducklilng too.

    This story is under most of the stories we have. Appaarently humble or handicapped person turns out to be destined savior of the world. The stone that the builders rejected.

  324. I hope the Republicans are grabbing an opening that Acorn is giving them: this “vote from home” idea could bring votes from elderly, shut-ins, etc who have not been able to vote under previous rules.

    Of course it needs a whole new set of volunteers to do the leg work. Honest volunteers. Ie not Acorn people or anything like that. — Might be a great project for some rightwing church groups.

  325. moononpluto Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 7:53 am

    This is getting disgustingly beyond a joke

    .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express

    EXCLUSIVE: .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express
    October 19th, 2008
    ==================

    Another good reason for keeping a low profile in the polls.

  326. Jan

    Didn’t Stinky already push thru legislation to send $800 billion to Africa as poverty aid?

    Anyone know what happened to that bill?

    I always thought it was curious, as I vaguely remember from high school civics that legislation having to do with $$ had to be initiated in the House.

  327. neetabug Says:

    October 20th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Did Maria Shrivers husband Arnold S. endorse Obama?

    What is going on? Does he think the constitution will be changed so he can run for president

    ==========

    That’s actually possible. As I posted above, an article here this month iirc said that Chavez wnted the US to call a Constitutional Convention and rewrite our Constitution. This is just the sort of thing Obama might do!

  328. turndownobama-com:Welcome aboard my list as long as you are a thru and thru Hillary supporter believe she has a plan that will be best for the country in this crisis.Threre has to be a logical reason for her efforts to save our political system from being the largest source of Bananas in our Hemisphere.I am now going to sit back and watch her do what she does,Be strong,be loyal,be true to the citizens of our country.

    “TO THINK WE COULD HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR HILLARY ON TUE NOV.4th ” Instead of the Squirrel and his Nuts.

    By ABM90

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