Obama, Ayers, Rezko, Ahmadinejad, Wright, Part I

We’ll continue, during the next few days, to show John McCain the way to expose Barack Obama – the same Barack Obama who trashed Hillary Clinton when Hillary Clinton proposed a gas tax holiday – the same Barack Obama who trashed Hillary Clinton when Hillary Clinton proposed a 90 day moratorium (in May 2008) on home foreclosures.

Remember this Hillary ad?

Announcer: The economy’s in trouble, the housing crisis broke. Hillary Clinton called for action. Freeze on foreclosures.

Barack Obama said no.

Now gas prices are sky rocketing and she’s ready to act again. Hillary’s plan: use the windfall profits of the oil companies to pay to suspend the gas tax this summer.

Barack Obama says no again. People are hurting. It’s time for a president who’s ready to take action now.

Now Obama is the tribune advocating what he trashed Hillary for advocating. The man just cannot be believed nor trusted, ever.

* * *

John McCain will debate Barack Obama again this Wednesday. As we had conjectured, the last “debate” was a mess and it was difficult for McCain to make a strong case against Obama during that second debate due to the town hall format of the debate. But this Wednesday circumstances will be closer to what passes for normal these days.

Before the second debate we stated, as we will do today, that McCain has a case to make which merges the necessary questions about Obama’s character and the necessary answers to the economic crisis. But neither McCain nor his allies are making the necessary case.

Our main point: The problem with Obama friends like Ayers/Rezko/Wright is that when their interests are in conflict with the interests of the voters Obama will side with Ayers/Rezko/Wright not with the American voter.

The Republican National Committee is currently paying for an advertisment which is a waste of resources. The meandering ad, like recent McCain advertisements, seeks to raise concern about Obama associates like his pal William Ayers.

Why do we think the above advertisement and similar advertisements are a waste of resources? Because the advertisements do not making a strong case for how voters should vote. The advertisement is about yet another ugly Obama friend and only obliquely about Obama. Most importantly the ad is not about the voter.

Elections are about the voter. In the past few weeks the voters have gotten scared. Voters are losing money and homes. Voters feel like they are on a sinking ship and all they want to hear about is how to stop the water from flooding in.

We are not saying McCain should ignore Ayers/Rezko/Ahmadinejad/Wright. Quite the contrary. McCain should discuss Ayers/Rezko/Ahmadinejad/Wright and what these names mean to voters and their lives and particularly their economic lives.

Peter Wehner in The Unasked Question wrote about an interview Mark Halperin of Time magazine conducted with Robert Gibbs of the Obama campaign. [The interview can be seen HERE.]

Mr. Halperin’s question was straightforward. At some point Barack Obama learned that William Ayers was a domestic terrorist and was unrepentant about it, Halperin says, yet at a minimum Obama continued to associate professionally (and perhaps personally) with Ayers after knowing about his past. Halperin then asks if it’s therefore reasonable to conclude that Obama, while having deplored the violent acts of Ayers, felt it was fine to continue to have professional associations with a domestic terrorist. The answer, of course, is yes – and watching Mr. Gibbs squirm and evade that simple, direct question tells you everything you need to know.

Halperin’s question regarding the Obama friendship with bomber Ayers was: “Does he [Obama] think it is appropriate to have professional ties to someone who’s committed acts like that?” The answer is yes and that is why Ayers/Rezko/Ahmadinejad/Wright should be of concern to American voters.

The problem with Obama friends like Ayers/Rezko/Wright is that when their interests are in conflict with the interests of the voters Obama will side with Ayers/Rezko/Wright not with the American voter.

As we wrote before and will write again and again:

When Obama’s own constituents were freezing in slumlord Rezko’s tenements Obama was either unaware or uninterested in their plight. Obama was busy catering to the needs of now convicted Rezko.

The Ayres history of bombings was also uninteresting to Obama because Ayers was useful and profitable to Obama.

Obama knew Rezko was about to be indicted and yet he escalated his business dealings with Rezko.

Obama knew Reverend Wright preached “God Damn America” on the Sunday immediately after September 11, 2001 but even after Obama found out he neither denounced Reverend Wright nor did Obama leave Wright’s church.

Obama is only out to help Obama. Obama does not care about victims of bombings nor freezing constituents – Obama only cares about Obama.

John McCain must inform Americans that Obama cannot be trusted. John McCain must inform Americans that Obama puts Obama First.

John McCain must inform Americans that Obama’s entire history as exemplified by his friendships is Obama First.

John McCain must inform Americans that Obama will say anything but he is not on the side of working Americans.

John McCain must say Country First, Not Obama First.

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685 thoughts on “Obama, Ayers, Rezko, Ahmadinejad, Wright, Part I

  1. Ugh. Gutter Ball is calling for a “90 day moratorium on foreclosures”. WHY does he keep stealing Hillary’s ideas?? He didn’t have ONE nice thing to say about her during the primaries, and yet he keeps stealing her proposals.

    Hate him.

    Where’s Vera Baker?

  2. thank you again, admin for another bull’s eye post. i saw obama on fox news today touting his “90 day moratorium”…which he bashed hillary for during the primaries, and now claims the plan as his own.

    regarding the rnc attacks against barack, imho: they should reiterate that barack will use everybody to advance barack. they are being subtle about it, going through his “judgment” et al. no, they should tell the public about it in a frank and direct manner without the sugarcoats. they should not play by the rules anymore. like mccain (and everybody else who knows) says, “jello to the wall”. make pointblank attacks. and hit him hard.

  3. ADMIN,

    i cant help thinking hillary is giving obama permission or even suggestions to use her ideas. apparently hill really believes in the democratic party and wants to save it.

    as for me, not so much…

    hillary is very powerful, everyone i thought had a brain, is quoting hillary, saying she believes in obama over john mccain. thats the power of her words…

    you are right that mccain needs to talk,
    ‘HELP’ talk. every obama ad, playing here in the bay area, is geared toward doing something to help the middle class, at this time of crises. a page right out of hillarys play book, but people are believing him.

    mccain needs to agressively push the, I will HELP YOU mem….

    good article admin. thx

  4. simply put nothing that BHO promises today is set in stone. nothing that he stood fast for or against in the primary has remained the same. If I had a friend like this I would take them with a grain of salt but never ask for their advice. I think its ok to have idiot friends as long as they aren’t domestic terrorists isn’t it?

  5. Uggghh!!! Just saw in passing about the Clintons burying the hatchett. I have definitely lost respect for them now. Don’t believe in any “so-called” threats against them. They are still hawking for this man. As to the question posted in another post, if I knew about Hillary what I know about her will I still support her now? The answer is NO!

    I thought that she would be different. But it seems that it is true that politicians are all alike. Will say and do anything. In many ways, they aren’t behaving much differently from John Lewis. They have so out to Obama like everyone else in the Democratic party has. Terrible!

  6. debbie, great news about the DOW! It closes up 963!

    The tide is turning. Without the economy as a concern, Gutter Ball has NO chance.

  7. independent2008 Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
    As to the question posted in another post, if I knew about Hillary what I know about her will I still support her now? The answer is NO!

    *******
    I agree with you! Certainly there will be not a penny from me for her campaign for whatever office in the future.

    Among all those four left in the campaign, Palin actually is the only one I consider has integrity. She actually talks straight! Sad what years in Washington did to the others. They could do a complete 180 on anything without shame.

  8. You guys come on. This is a pro-Hillary site. She is doing what she has to do to politically. She knows Gutter Ball will loose, and if she doesn’t vocally support him, the stupid bots will not support her in 2012. They’ll go for Mark Warner or some other god-awful choice. Do I wish she would stay away from the stump? Of course. But she is the best candidate for president in our lifetime, let’s not forget that.

  9. Hannity just a bit ago on the radio was going on and on about the polls…….and even talked about how the polls have been over sampling in favor of BHO by using double the dim ratio to rep’s and said of course you will get the results you WANT in favor of BHO by doing this. LMAO!!!

  10. I am reserving judgement on Sen. Clinton, because I am not walking in her shoes. I believe, she is doing what she needs to do, in order to maintain her political life and future. There are NO dims speaking out against the misogyny, sexism, ageism, fraudulent voter registrations, corruption, stealing of the nomination and election, etc., etc. Everyone is towing the party line. Sick.

  11. Bravo Admin! I hope McCain is listening!

    Obama’s non-start economic speech is a sure way to: Communism!

    And as far as I’m concerned, Hillary is still my hero as is Bill. I’m not buying the koolaid that she is in Obama’s camp and I never will.

    Go Hillary! Go McCain!

  12. Call me crazy, but in addition to PA, I just have this weird feeling that McCain will take MN too. I know polls don’t matter, but too many different outfits have had either a tie or a McCain +1 in the past couple weeks. It appears as though indies are breaking for McCain there. I shouldn’t be saying this, but MN is VERY white, and I think we might witness the Bradley Effect in MN this year.

  13. Hillguy et all

    WHY does she (hillary) have to do this???? I don’t get it….IMHO because she is so powerful she could have put an end to all this BS by simply opening her mouth and telling the Am. People the truth.

    are we not just assuming she’s being threatened?? has there been any proof of this??

    set all that aside……..

    I just don’t know how can she come back from this and say i am for the people of America when she is siding with the terrorist BHO??

    I fear that propping obama up (even when he looses this election) she will be essentially be ending any future shot at the presidency she may of had in 2012….you see people will learn about the democrats attempted coup of the WH and she will be sadly lumped into that group simply because she is actively stumping for him and will be seen as a corrupt dem right along with pelosi and reid…….and even if they don’t learn of the theft by the dems……they will regret an obama presidency and will still see her as not having good judgement by endorsing him and actively trying to sell him to the american people.

  14. Sorry Hillary, without affordable enegy our businesses won’t be able to hire
    /////

    By MARYCLAIRE DALE, Associated Press Writer
    1 hour, 37 minutes ago
    PHILADELPHIA – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton offered a Democratic rejoinder to the Republican chant of “drill, baby, drill.” Said the one-time presidential candidate: “Jobs, baby, jobs.”

  15. hillguy

    I was born and raised in MN lived there till i was 42……. MN is very white except the big cities and close suburbs
    I remember a lot of prejudice attitudes growing up but i must say i don’t think it is now (hasn’t been for a very long time)
    but they do have a big problem with gangs…… the welfare system has been moving them to the suburbs (low cost rentals) for the last 15-20 years, so people in smaller towns that once didn’t have to deal with gangs now have a big problem

    and MN people are fairly conservative. so i think mc cain has a good shot at winning MN

  16. Immigration is also a biggie with MN…..the welfare system there is the best so they come from all over the country and from other countries

    also they have extremely high taxes, cost of living is extremely high in MN

    if you want to win MN I think talking immigration and tax cuts is the key issue

  17. The con artist is stealing HRC economic idea. What a big PHONY!!!

    Hope the American people will wake up before the election! We can not ELECT a MUSLIM to be our next president…..

    MCCAIN 2008
    HRC 2012

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  19. cavuto……..right now on with steve moore talking about obama’s tax cuts for 95% of the people is actually
    more like a welfare check to those who don’t pay any taxes at all ( 4 out of every 10 people will get a check)

  20. magic007

    I could care less if BHO is Muslim, what I do care about is his failure to keep promises, his questionable relationships, and his judgement.

    I personally know many wonderful people that are muslim. I do not ascribe to their religion but i respect them just the same.

  21. Magic

    Muslim or not……… we can not elect someone so radical and so far left that he is actually totally out side of the democrats policy’s

    Obama is a danger to our country not matter what his religious belief is…..period!!

  22. dija, make sure you’re here the night of the GE so we can pick your brain for geographical info on MN as the results come in. I mean if immigration and taxes are the top issues to people in MN, then McCain will have no problem there.

  23. debbie Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
    simply put nothing that BHO promises today is set in stone. nothing that he stood fast for or against in the primary has remained the same. If I had a friend like this I would take them with a grain of salt but never ask for their advice. I think its ok to have idiot friends as long as they aren’t domestic terrorists isn’t it?
    &&&&&&&&&

    “Domestic Terrorists”. Is that like a maid with a grenade?

  24. Admin,

    I sure hope McCain staffers are reading your excellent posts. If so, we should see a smoking-hot debate on Wednesday.

    Off-topic; I took a long drive through the gorgeous upstate NY countryside and I stopped at a farm for pumpkins. The owner told me that there are only a few farms left in the county and if BO gets in he expects his fwill fail. His family has farmed that land for over 200 years.

    I then drove around some more and I saw several dozen McCain/palin signs and none for That One.

  25. debbie Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    magic007

    I could care less if BHO is Muslim, what I do care about is his failure to keep promises, his questionable relationships, and his judgement.

    I personally know many wonderful people that are muslim. I do not ascribe to their religion but i respect them just the same.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Completely agree. While there is religious prejudice in our country, and it may be a long time before someone other than a Protestant or Catholic (Kerry would have been the second, I believe, after JFK…Hmmm, John Forbes Kerry would have been JFK II), I couldn’t give a hoot about people’s religious convictions, or lack of. Joe Lieberman, man of faith, Jewish, so what? Muslim? What’s the big deal.

    Of course, context would have to be taken into consideration, such as whose allegience takes priority.

    That’s why we worry about Obummah’s past and present associations. And why a little old valid birth certificate is an important indicator of one’s allegience. Obama may have been raised at times (in Indonesia) with his adoptive parents’ religion, but you know, I was born Catholic, and I turned out okay anyway (just a joke, not meant to be disrespectful to my old Home Team). I am currently a “Free Agent”, and have researched religions and philosophies such as Buddhish, Hinduism, and Grateful Deadism.

    We are against Obummah for the valid reasons he is not ready.

  26. Lots of Americans will say they don’t mind their Presidents’ religon, but most, however, will draw the line about Muslim. Look at how women are treated in all those Muslim countries. Fact speaks itself. It’s one thing to respect individual’s belief, it’s totally another to examine a potential leader’s belief. Unfortunately, because of the race card, his fundamental belief is also off limits for deep discussion. Who knows what BHO believes? Rev. Wright’s church is not exactly Christian by lots of people’s standard.

    Nicholas D. Kristof at the New York Times wrote a column:
    Obama and the Bigots
    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
    Published: March 9, 2008
    Nicholas D. Kristof wrote:
    To his credit, Mr. Obama has spoken respectfully of Islam (he told me last year, on the record, that the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset”).

    See the link here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09kristof.html?_r=4&scp=1&sq=kristof%20muslim%20prayer%20obama&st=cse&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

    If you did not drink the koolaid as Kristof did, what would you think about BHO quote?

  27. HillGuy Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    Cavuto has a point: Hillary is laying the groundwork for 2012. She is campaigning for Hillary.
    &&&&&&&&

    Agreed. If Hill had won, any of her ex Dem opponents would have been campaigning “for her” for their own name brand recognition.

    Gee, do we think that politicians are cynical and self-serving?

    You betcha!

  28. repost – got in late last thread

    my two cents…I think Hillary and Bill are doing what they can mostly because of Joe Biden…they probably psyche themselves up because of their close relationship to Joe…and Bill and Hill do their best to remind us that Hill did a great job and continues to help more than anyone else in her position…(what can he do, he is the former President of the Democratic Party, he is cornered)

    not to mention bigshot Obama has surrounded himself by Bill’s entire team, including gene sperling and the whole old gang…Obama just took all of Bill’s people and bill and hill’s policies, thrashed them during the primaries and now runs on their laurels…he is a corrupt opportunist, what can we expect…

    our beautiful Hillary does look very tired (drained?) I don’t know how she does as much as she does…

    I honestly feel if Obama wins, Hillary and Bill will be more and more marginalized in the democratic party and the party will never be the same again…it will go further and further left…and become consumed in corruption…chicago style…big time..

    I fear censorship and no oversight at all with obama, pelosi, reid, dodd, franks and the chicago cabal takeover…

    **********************************************

    as a long time dem it kills me to say this…but I think the message Mccain needs to keep repeating and hammering over and over again is that in these times of crisis Obama cannot be trusted and if he wins the dems will control the entire government…he needs to keep repeating that we needed divided government now and he is the reformer to do it…

    he needs to hammer over and over that if obama wins he will be in charge and the dems will control every aspect of governnment with no oversight and a MSM that covers for them…he has to sell divided government for the public’ s safety…otherwise the government will be totally in the hands of pelosi, reid, dodd, franks, obama and the media…he should flat out ask…does that make you feel safe? is that what you want? because that is what you are going to get…

    and then mac needs to state in clear bullet point communication a (HIS) simple economic plan for the country…like Bill and Hill did…#1, #2 #3…

    divided government and a simple and easy to understand economic approach

    he should keep going back to that over and over again in the debate…

    repition and stick to it and put out ads repeating this over and over…

    Obama is not ready or prepared for all this concentration of power in his hands

  29. While I’m as big a fan of Hillary’s as anyone else here, I do have to wonder how many people who were undecided or were going to just stay home on election day, are now going to vote for Obama because of Hillary.

    I think there comes a time when a person has to put the people of this country first, over their own interests. I guess that’s one reason I’m not in politics. I could NEVER get out there and stump for the likes of Obama, no matter how much I wanted to stay in politics. My conscience would not allow me to stump for Obama and to possibly bring over enough voters to put him in the White House.

  30. NewMexicoFan Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
    Never thought I would say this. Thank God for Hannity.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Yeah. Precisely.

    And now that Colmes fellow, who I used to count on as a counterbalance to Hannity, I think he’s another sniveling weasel.

    And yes, I used to love Olbermann, until he became the Obama Channel.

    T’is an upside down looking glass reality. “I have a feeling we’re not in Peoria anymore, Toto”.

  31. Hillguy

    I think alot of the major issues are important to most blue collar people in all states including MN

    but immigration and taxes are biggies in mn ……people are sick of being over run by Illegal and legal immigrants,
    they are scared of gangs and drugs entering their towns. Scared that the high crime rates might enter their communities
    job losses and of course “press 1 if you want english”

    education is important, but mn has really good schools over all (perhaps not inner city been 19 years since my oldest went to a south mnpls elementary school…….but they sucked back then we moved before josh entered 3rd grade (1990) because i was told by many school teachers that is when they begin to see the crap ie: knives, guns drugs violence etc

    health care costs are important of course too but i don’t think its the most important….. housing costs alone are extremely high so is rental costs.

    you can’t buy a south mnpls house (cracker box 2 br war era house with 2 feet of land around it) for less than $260k

    property taxes are extreme!

    now gas and food are over the top too…

    so to be honest in MN.. immigration ,taxes & economy,are the top 3 (but then, where wouldn’t they be ?)

  32. lindax Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
    independent2008 Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
    As to the question posted in another post, if I knew about Hillary what I know about her will I still support her now? The answer is NO!

    *******
    I agree with you! Certainly there will be not a penny from me for her campaign for whatever office in the future.
    ————————————————————————————————-

    My answer is NO also

  33. HillGuy Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    Cavuto has a point: Hillary is laying the groundwork for 2012. She is campaigning for Hillary.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    If she is laying the groundwork for 2012, she has a poor way of showing it

    Bo will come back to haunt her

  34. ABM 90: you are a very wise man. What you said on the prior thread is the absolute TRUTH. Hillary is doing what needs to be done, it is for the good of the American People and there is a strategy. She is on the side of the angels–and us, as always. I just had to think it through.

  35. OMG i can’t believe i forgot about foreign affairs in that list of top issues

    of course foreign affairs is big too….. i am sure most mothers are as worried
    as i am with teen boys having to have to go to war. and what russia or iran might do to us here on our homeland.

    and because that worries me Obama even if he was the last politician in america i wouldn’t want him handling our country’s foreign affairs.

  36. bluegirl Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
    While I’m as big a fan of Hillary’s as anyone else here, I do have to wonder how many people who were undecided or were going to just stay home on election day, are now going to vote for Obama because of Hillary.

    $$$$ I think Generic Dems would vote for whomever “got in there”. The die-hards, however, who worked for Hillary in the primary, and were paying attention, have lots of reasons for detesting Obama.

    I think there comes a time when a person has to put the people of this country first, over their own interests. I guess that’s one reason I’m not in politics. I could NEVER get out there and stump for the likes of Obama, no matter how much I wanted to stay in politics. My conscience would not allow me to stump for Obama and to possibly bring over enough voters to put him in the White House.

    $$$$ A conscience a liability in politics. You have to get a soulectomy upon entering Congress. But you have to a big FAKE one implanted to show off to voters.

  37. # wbboei Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    ABM 90: you are a very wise man. What you said on the prior thread is the absolute TRUTH. Hillary is doing what needs to be done, it is for the good of the American People and there is a strategy. She is on the side of the angels–and us, as always. I just had to think it through.
    **********************

    I think your a brilliant man, and i love reading your posts and analysis all the time but i have to ask you to explain to me (and others) why hillary doing what she is doing for BHO is what needs to be done? and how is her pushing and dragging BHO across the election finish line good for the american people?

    what could possibly be her strategy with all this?? how is that all on the side of angels and us?

    please help someone like me to understand

  38. From the burbs of Pittsburgh I can tell you I have within the past week watched obama signs spring up like wild fire. Are those that support McCain hesitant as to be labeled racist? I don’t know. I do have to agree with those who have criticized Senator Clinton. I f she said no to bambi Senator McCain would be in a much better position. waffles scares me and hillary is now complicent. I had tremendous respect for ther junioy senetoe from New York but I believe in my country a lot more. Bambi would definately lose if she spoke out against him.

  39. # marie3548 Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Jerome Corsi suddenly ill not on Hannity’s radio show today.
    ***************

    that is so strange!!!!!! where did you hear this???

    I had to turn the radio off so am not listening to hannity……..did hannity say this??

  40. henry Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
    From the burbs of Pittsburgh I can tell you I have within the past week watched obama signs spring up like wild fire. Are those that support McCain hesitant as to be labeled racist? I don’t know.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Again, beware of “oversampling”. Bots rip down yard signs (did it to HRC signs in Philly), burn them down.. And they go around putting up a disproportinate amount of signs, so that you feel a SURGE OF OBAMAMANIA.

    Don’t, Don’t, Don’t believe the hype.

  41. Problems Looming for Obama

    Monday, October 13, 2008 9:11 AM

    By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann Article Font Size

    For McCain to win this election (which he still can), the furor over the stock market will have to calm down so that popular attention can focus on Barack Obama.

    For all of the deluge of media that has engulfed the American people, they can only keep one subject on their mind.

    All media has only one focus at a time. And, if you are in the spotlight, you are almost certain to self-destruct.

    Follow this election cycle. Between the summer of 2007 and the end of February of 2008, all focus was on Hillary Clinton’s ups and downs. And Obama defeated her decisively.

    Then in March and April of 2008, Obama was in the focus and the Rev Wright and the surrounding controversy propelled Hillary to victory. Then during the summer of 2008, all eyes were on Obama and he gained.

    In September, McCain was on the griddle. At first his selection of Sarah Palin let him move ahead. But then his “suspension” of his campaign and subsequent complicity in the bailout package cost him his lead and moved Obama to an advantage just short of double digits.

    Now the attention should logically shift to Obama.

    He is way ahead and McCain is nowhere to be seen. Few give McCain any chance, and the debate is over whether the race is over already. This is, of course, the ideal environment for a McCain surge.

    All attention would normally focus on the Democrat. But it isn’t.

    Every American checks the market before they check the polls. The ongoing anxiety over the stock market is not only giving more and more people reason to hate the Republicans of Wall Street and their allies in Washington, but it is keeping us from focusing on Obama.

    If ever the market stabilizes, Americans will be fascinated by the Ayers-Obama ties and the relationship between Farrakhan and the Democratic nominee. The increasing evidence that ACORN is committing voter fraud, registering people over and over again in anticipation of stuffing the ballot box on Election Day.

    As ACORN gets raided by the FBI, it will hurt Obama. He was general counsel to its Illinois affiliate, and Obama channeled millions to the radical group when he got control over the money William Ayers got from the Annenberg Foundation.

    All of these ties are damning for Obama and will reinforce the doubts that Wright first put in our minds. They will lead people to question Obama’s values and his fitness for the presidency.

    A man whose spiritual adviser is Wright, whose financial backer is Tony Rezko, and whose first major employer was William Ayers might not be a good choice for president. But for these associations to loom large enough in our consciousness to impact our vote, the market has to settle down so we can hear the campaign over its din.

  42. Hi Guys–
    Those of you who know me, know I hate to ask people for money…… but we really need help to finance this Ohio trip.
    We’ve raised about $1700 and we have a wonderful PUMA that is paying for $1000 worth of flyers.

    Gas will cost us about $1300 (we originally estimated $1700—but as you know, prices have dropped slightly)
    The sign for the RV is about about $700
    We estimate we need at least another $1000 for printing flyers (we anticipate distributing 30,000 over the weekend)
    We hope to rent a van ($75) for the overflow from the RV (people need to travel together as much as possible for efficiency)
    And we have some volunteers willing to come but not able to pay $40 per night x 2 nights plus travel expenses to Columbus, OH
    We need to help them in order for them to participate

    PLEASE GIVE JUST $25 to http://www.RealDemocratsUSA.org (mention it’s for the Ohio trip…)

    If you can do more, we would be so grateful for people willing to subsidize hotel rooms or flyers (you can contribute to the printer or hotel bill directly)

    But PLEASE guys, if you haven’t already contributed…send $25 —right now, before you get distracted and forget.

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  43. rgb44hrc
    doubt that is the case here.
    i think its more like if I put out a McCain sign I will be percieved by neighbors as a racist.

  44. Ya’ll want Hillary to tell the truth. To whom? (Name a newspaper or TV network.)

    I’m not fooled by tough times and lies. I never felt more respect, support and love for Hillary and Bill than now in this time of trouble.

  45. Shades of the the likes of Adolph,Benito,Caesar and the Castro brothers,Today the Hustler made a teleprompter speech and a qote that I find chilling.I heard the originals when they occured but this one by the Messiah is far more dangerous. Quote

    ” I WILL CHANGE THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD ”

    Think about that America.He is a clear and present danger on the doorstep of the Whitehouse.

    By ABM90

  46. djia Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
    Yes someone listening to Hannity today said he was talking to J C Watts instead.

  47. 10/13/2008
    Breaking News: Jerome Corsi Ill

    I sure hope he gets better. After he, isn’t he supposed to be on Hannity and Colmes tonight to talk about his trip to Kenya, and how ultra super duper scary Obama really is?

  48. Hmmm, good point Henry.

    And very unfortunate.

    “Let’s elect Obama so that we can shed a light on the world, so that he can uplift us out of this morass. To do this, we’ll do whatever it takes, including silencing those who oppose our Dear Leader”.

    Bots. Nuthin’ but a bunch of bots… ssssssssssssssssshhhh (bot bug spray)

  49. As much as I do not ever want to see bambi in the white house I am for a 50% inheritence/gift tax. Why should paris Hilton be allowed to live a life of luxury without paying the cost?

  50. Got my first polling call this morning.The caller asked me who I am supporting.I did not answer,but I did ask him to give me his name and a phone number that I could call to verify his employer.Got a crude remark and he hung up.Acorn at work? I’m not sure but I know it might have saved me from the Hustlers ” Legacy of Retribution”.Do not answer any pollsters legal or not or you may regret it.

    By ABM90

  51. I also have to say that I spent one tax season working for Jackson Hewitt and it was abhorrant. Under the EIC. I watched people abuse a credit which was meant to help the poor. Two kids id the max so if you have three you sell your childs social to a cousin. efinately don’t get married get public assistance and subsidized housing. Work only long enough to recieve the 5500 refundable credit and then quit. A married couple making 40k a year actually maked less than a “single” mother of two working half a year.

  52. oklahomahills Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Ya’ll want Hillary to tell the truth. To whom? (Name a newspaper or TV network.)

    FOX NEWS,HANNITY,RUSH,O’RIELLY,GRETA,

  53. I have to disagree with you on that one Henry. I’m not for a 50% inheritance tax. My mother passed away not too long ago, and we squeaked under that. We are by no means rich, and I would have hated to see what she spent her life scrimping and saving go to the governement. That might change with Bambi in office. Right now it has to be over a certain amount to be taxed, Bambi might change that. If he was willing to raise taxes on a person making 40,000 a year than he might take away that limit. There are ways around that though. Making your children co-owners is one way. My mother got around alot of it that way. I’m afraid it won’t only effect the Paris Hilton’s of the country.

  54. henry Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    As much as I do not ever want to see bambi in the white house I am for a 50% inheritence/gift tax. Why should paris Hilton be allowed to live a life of luxury without paying the cost?

    &&&&&&&&&

    So she can be at her maximum hotness?? All that tanning and spa work ain’t cheap. And the nice shoes?

    Plus, the little doggie has special dietary needs; he/she only dines at three star restaurants.

  55. birdie // October 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    posted at THE HILL
    whooo whooo

    This time, sex scandal in Florida’s 16th helps GOP
    By Aaron Blake
    Posted: 10/13/08 03:16 PM [ET]

    The second sex scandal in two years in Florida’s 16th district could put things right back where they began: with a Republican congressman.
    ABC News reported Monday morning that freshman Rep. Tim Mahoney (D-Fla.) paid more than $120,000 in hush money to a former mistress and arranged for her to have a job at a political consulting firm.

    This comes just two years and two weeks after Mahoney’s predecessor, Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), announced his retirement amid an ABC report about his inappropriate sexual interactions with House pages.

    The timing of the Mahoney news leaves Democrats in exactly the same position Republicans were in with Foley: too close to the election to get a ballot replacement.

    Jennifer Davis, a spokeswoman with the Florida Department of State, said there was no way for Democrats to put a new candidate on the ballot, but that they could run another candidate under Mahoney’s name, as Republicans did with Foley in 2006.

    State Rep. Joe Negron (R) lost to Mahoney, 50-48.

  56. ABM90 Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
    Got my first polling call this morning.The caller asked me who I am supporting.I did not answer,but I did ask him to give me his name and a phone number that I could call to verify his employer.
    &&&&&&&

    ABM, very savvy.

  57. Lin67
    Yes but there are tens of thousands of individuals who are by birthright allowed to deman and posture, Why? Paris Hilton who has done zero weith her life is permitted to treat others as her servent because granddaddy worked hard? I disagree.

  58. Rassmussen swing state polling has Obama ahead in 4 out of 5 (Ohio, Flor, Miss, Virg) by 2 to 5 points and ties in 1 (NC).

    Now this is pretty good considering how weighted and overpolled the Dems are, it makes me confident that McCain is actually ahead in all of them because of the 6 to 12% Dem bias, we have seen so far.

    I aint panicking, its good as far as i see.

  59. This is why states like Virginia will go to McCain, I have no doubt

    A Military Times survey of 4,300 readers of its Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Times newspapers indicates U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the Republican presidential candidate, enjoys overwhelming support from the military’s overall professional core.

    Broken down by race, however, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, the Democratic presidential contender, receives similarly overwhelming support from career-oriented African-American military members.

    The newspaper group said the results of its voluntary 2008 election poll “are not representative of the opinions of the miltiary as a whole,” but a survey of older, more senior ranking service members who are less ethnically diverse than the armed forces as a whole.

    Still, among all respondents, those senior ranking members resoundingly favored McCain, R-Ariz., 68 percent to 23 percent over Obama, D-Ill, with white military respondents favoring him 79 percent to 17 percent .

  60. Do you actually belive that paris hilton has a right to her life? She has never done anything to benifit humanity,
    to anyone who thinks I am being way left field, The previous law was that one could give upto 12500 per year as a gift beyond that the giver paiid the tax. If you have an estate that you want to pass on was pretty easy. when it comes to billions of unerned monies I think thr recipient dhould be taxed and highly.

  61. moon
    my point was the change in inheritence/gift tax
    i believe in a 50% tax over a certain amount. It is so easy to transfer the bulk of ones wealth that eradicating inheritemce tax is a joke. i’d love to hear an argument against said tax. If a billioaire dies tomorrow does his child deserve his monewy?

  62. EXCELLENT ARTICLE OVER AT NOQUARTER TODAY

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/well-how-did-we-get-hereor-the-real-obama-agenda/#more-5417

  63. ANYONE……. have you seen or heard about this??

    posted at NQ

    Comment by Denise | 2008-10-13 13:26:55

    Does Obama have his own Flag now?

    Obama gave a news brief today standing in front of a Flag that posters were claiming is Obama’s Flag.

  64. Henry and others

    I too would walk on hot coals for our girl, again, and now, and 11 months ago with future (not hind) sight.

    May I repost something here from Anglachel, and later tonight, a reaction to her post from someone who volunteered much more, at a huge cost, for a longer period than I….we all need to get our heads on straight, and stop with the Chicken Little SNL bits…I would have loved to hear you all four years ago this month.

    Dearheart

    Don’t fall asleep yet -the following is copied from a great site – Anglachel, reflecting on Hillary’s convention speech:
    ————————————————-

    Her speech was a work of brilliance. I’m waiting to see the transcript and go over it in detail. It was, first and foremost, a speech about politics. It had plenty of “human interest” and even humor in it. We most certainly got a look into the mind and heart of this woman. But what it was, from the first line to the last, was a full-force evocation of what it means to be a Democrat. In a season where we have been bombarded by bipartisan, everybody let’s hug, don’t say anything bad about the Republicans, don’t be partisan be Obamacan, Unity Ponies for everyone balderdash, Hillary took the party by the scruff of its dithering neck and made it look at the reason we are a party in the first place.

    The invocations of all of her identities became the warp into which she wove the woof of policy, belief, and acts, creating a mantle – Democrat. I am a Democrat for these reasons – these reasons are why I must call myself a Democrat. She was unapologetically partisan in every sentence. She explained, with the examples from her campaign, why she is driven to serve. She gave notice that for her this is a duty and that the hatred heaped upon her has no effect. I was reminded of her words in the blogger conference call – “I am impervious to them.”

    Evidently Chris Matthews said that there was no evidence of defeat in this speech. Why would there be? It is entirely a media narrative, helped along mightily by the pool boys of the fauxgressive blogosphere, that they were “finally rid of the Clintons.” They wanted suffering, shame, penance, begging for forgiveness and Hillary just handed them a steaming super-sized mug of shut the fuck up. As she was never a media darling, they cannot touch her – she is impervious. She walked off that stage the most powerful person in the Deomcratic Party, owning nothing to any of the power brokers because she has given it all to the Party. That is her duty, there lie her obligations, and that is what she is here to defend.

    In the hall, it was interesting to look at the signs. The bright white signs with her signature in deep blue (note from me- I thought the signature was RED…mls) were like lights across the dark background of the audience. At some point, people held up tall vertical signs: Hillary, Obama, Unity. The imbalance in the representations struck me at once. Her first name and the familiarity and comfort that evoked. His last name, easy to chant, traditional political presentation. But the names were not brought together. You had to look at another sign to be given a command (a plea?) – Unity. For that to have been so, the names would have to have shared the same space, a unity not demanded but enacted.

    Hillary presented the case for unity, answering the question “Unity for the sake of what?” (and even answering Lambert’s plaint “And we get…?”) through her enactment of Democratic principles. There was no ire, no resentment, not even the whisper of hurt. Politics is rough, but failure to fulfill your political duty (to the veteran, to the cancer patient, to the impoverished mother), is unforgiveable. Not hope. Not change. Duty. She gave Bill the recognition for his duty that their political opponents meanly withhold. She offered the arguments for why the success of the party was paramount, and in the doing ripped away the prevarications and self-deception thrown out for why unity with her wasn’t possible. She explicitly invoked Bill Gwatney’s pursuit of a Democratic and more just South, crushing the anti-Bubba bigotry with the straightforward truth that the only way to end the ugly legacy of the South is to transform it.

    Many people have talked about Obama as a “transcendent” candidate, someone who is “post-partisan,” “post-racial,” calls us to something higher, and so forth. What Hillary did on that stage tonight was demonstrate what true political transcendence looks like. Surrounded by heart-broken supporters, hateful detractors, an unflaggingly hostile media, and looking at the faces of her colleagues who have treated her in the most despicable way possible for months on end, she spoke passionately and without rancor to all of them. Her personal grace and decency were rivaled only by her political integrity and loyalty. She has transcended the brutality and cruelty visited upon her in this primary. The political ground that lies within her reach has been swept clean of any barriers, impediments or stumbling blocks.

    There is nothing left for her to do for anyone. Hillary is exactly what she showed on the stage tonight – the most dedicated Democrat in the party – and it is now up to the rest to live up to her example, or fail and fall. She has laid the ultimate political trap precisely by refusing to do so.

    This is, I think, what keeps flummoxing the people who want to do her damage. Hillary is a hellacious campaigner and is not above delivering some pretty sharp puches, as she did to the hapless John McCain and pretty much all the rest of the goons and fools in the Republican Party, but she is not out to destroy anyone. (Big Dog is a different matter, and I am now very curious to see how his speech will differ from Hillary’s) When her response to the months of backstabbing, intrigue, smearing, and general paranoid petulance of the Obama campaign is to flash her million watt smile and say she’s ready to win the White Hosue for the Democrats regardless of the candidate and do so with utter conviction and sincerity, there’s really nothing they can do without looking exactly as corrupt and moronic as they are. She owes them nothing after this speech, though she will give them anything that a Democrat deserves.

    Obama wanted to be the Democratic nominee in the worst way possible. He got his wish. Tonight, Hillary showed him the only way out of his predicament.

    It is now all on Obama’s head to show he is half the Democrat she is.

    A
    —————————————————-

    And that Dearheart, is why I am still a Hillfan.

    Goodnight…if you are up, talk to me.

  65. moon
    i guess my point is moot.
    but I for one am not a multi-millionaire and as such do not believe somwone can become an individual who by birth rite is permitted, condoned and celebrated by disissing a waiter.

  66. This is very interesting

    I just looked up voter registration in NJ.

    NJ is

    46% Independent 2,344,485
    34% Dem 1,737,588
    20% Republican 1,043,672

    http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/2008results/08generalelection/voter-registration-summary-100108.pdf

    Now I just looked at the new poll from Survey USA

    What samples are the using for their polls. 24% Indie, 46% Dem 28% Republican

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8b57e34b-db7b-4eba-a77b-034325fbf633

    McCain is presently winning indies in NJ by 45 to 40 according to this poll.

    McCain is reality has a real shot in NJ, if he can up the number of Independents in his favour to about 55%.

  67. djia Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
    ANYONE……. have you seen or heard about this??

    posted at NQ

    Comment by Denise | 2008-10-13 13:26:55

    Does Obama have his own Flag now?

    Obama gave a news brief today standing in front of a Flag that posters were claiming is Obama’s Flag.

    ———————————————————————————–

    Is this a joke?

  68. Hillary promised in the beginning to support the Dem candidate. Would you like her to treat her word the way Obama treats his?

    Also, when the bots land back on Planet Reality, she will need them to win. I do agree, however, that it is reaching the time when she can pick one of the O scandals as a reason to withdraw. Now THAT would make an October surprise! THAT would be change we can believe in!!!

  69. Yeah, she promised but she is going way overboard. Doing more than any other. I really now believe that she really think that Obama is best for the country. Sort of put her judgment in question.

    While she is worried about losing Obama supporters, she should worry more about not losing the supporters she already has! She may be in for a shocker after this election.

  70. birdgal

    not sure if it is a joke or not

    just found that posted and hadn’t heard anything about a flag, was hoping the all knowing hillis44 crowd would know 😉

  71. OMG, his own flag, I believe it, he has his own seal.
    I am worried about Corsi, WTF happened, even TexasDarlin seems to be subdued and we all know that Ed Hale shut his website down for security purposes. Shit this is bad!!
    There is something very SINESTER happening in this race!!

  72. Bravo Bravo Bravo emjay;Yousaid it all and I must commend you for an oustanding examination of our Hillary and what she stands and fights for.Thank you for the highlight of my day.I wish others would see the light and fight for this brave and remarkable patriot that has not given up on us.

    By ABM90 Perhaps my prayers will be answered.

  73. 30,000 people at Richmond International Raceway today in VA to see Sarah.

    HillBuzz puts it best:

    “Isn’t it funny how the media just all of a sudden stopped reporting on the size of crowds when Sarah Palin started outdrawing Obama?”

  74. A week ago, MSM was saying that BO’s draw of 21,000 was “the biggest draw the battleground state of VA has seen this year.”

    Until today.

  75. rgb44, lol, that’s why I said I would never be able to be or want to be in politics. I wouldn’t survive, because I have a conscience.

    I really do worry though, that she is bringing some voters over to Obama and that upsets me a bit. I think this election is going to be so close and every vote will count and McCain can’t afford to lose any to Obama. That is if this will not be rigged. I wonder if they will get all this voter fraud cleaned up in time.

    I do think McCain has a chance, if they can clean things up. It just scares me to think of Obama and his cohorts in control. It should scare every single American. How can seemingly intelligent people go for Obama? I just don’t understand that.

  76. i only caught a quick glimpse when they played a sound bite from obama’s 4 point plan speech today

    I would have missed it had i not been looking for it , as it looks much like a us flag with stripes but where the star’s normally would be it had a wierd insignia instead……something with a big O in the middle

  77. found this at newt.org

    By concerned2 @ Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:46 PM
    Food for thought….I don’t care if you are Republican, Democrat or whatever. I have friends in all political categories that cannot understand what happened to our economy, etc….not everyone, but many, blame President Bush. Please read this and then see if you think it is Bush’s fault. Remember that he cannot do all that he wants without the support of our Congress.

    The 7 1/2 years of George Bush

    George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
    A little over one year ago:
    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
    3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
    4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000 +
    5) American’s were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!…

    But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic
    Congress and yes–we got ‘CHANGE’ all right. In the PAST YEAR:
    1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
    2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
    3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
    4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS
    and prices still dropping;
    5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
    6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
    $2.5 trillion dollars has evaporated from their stocks, bonds &
    mutual funds investment portfolios!

    Yes, in 2006 America voted for change…..and we sure got it! …..
    Remember the President has no control over any of these issues, only Congress.
    And what has Congress done in the last two years, absolutely nothing.
    Now the democratic candidate for President claims he is going to really give us
    change along with a democratic Congress!!!! Just how much more ‘change’
    do you think you can stand?

  78. henry Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    As much as I do not ever want to see bambi in the white house I am for a 50% inheritence/gift tax. Why should paris Hilton be allowed to live a life of luxury without paying the cost?
    *****************************************************
    Paris Hilton was not left any money from her Grandfather…he is donating all to charity. It’s a tradition in their family that the family the family has to earn their money, not inherited.

    So all that money you see her have is her own money and the girl is very smart about it too.

    Don’t hate just emulate the good and throw away the bad. I hate this class war the Democrats started this year. It never works and only make people angry…because if you go out and work hard you will make money. It’s what you do with it after you make it is the problem.

  79. Per CNN, today local voting officials starting going through 5,000 ACORN voter registrations forms in Lake County, Indiana (we remember THAT place from the primaries). And guess what?? Of the 2,100 registration forms they have examined, ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN FRAUDULENT.

    Moral of the story: Don’t believe the Gutter Ball hype! He is NOT registering millions of voters!

  80. I live in CA and this happened last time in the late 70’s – 80’s when the housing bubble burst…it would have happened sooner if the Feds and Fannie & Freddie hadn’t kept putting cheap credit in the well…Bernacki should never have lowered the in rate so many times…all it did was prolong the bubble.

    When the media is saying only 9% of Californians can afford to buy a home you know the housing market has been over speculated and good times are over.

    Regular track homes were going for 1.5 million or more. Townhouses selling at 700,000 and up. It got ridiculous.

    I blame everybody but I blame the Democrats more on this issue because of their refusal to deal with Fannie & Freddie after getting the mews of major corruption and fraud over at those Institutions that are the center of this mess with their Enron like gaming.

    GW Bush gets a kick in the but for placing Christopher Cox weak ass over the SEC, instead of doing his job he decided to become friends instead of a watchdog agency. Thanks to McCain for saying FIRED!

  81. Henry says he has seen Obama signs spring up in his Pittsburgh area.

    Yesterday, my husband and I drove up to the northern part of PA to the Grand Canyon of PA for the fall foliage, which hasn’t hit here yet.

    As we drove through numerous small towns and countrysides, I watched for signs. I didn’t see that many, but the ones I did see were mostly for McCain. Usually there was only about one Obama sign. I was thoroughly tickled.

    The county above us had alot of Obama signs right in the grassy strip in the middle of a fourlane. I felt like stopping and taking them down, lol. But that was the only place I saw more than one or two Obama signs, so I think that at least small town and rural PA is going for McCain. I’m sure they are all remembering the “bitter” words from Bambi, along with everything else they know about him.

  82. Idunn,

    “CHECK FOR ARSENIC POISONONG.”

    Or thallium, the insecticide used to kill Alexanderl Litveninko.

    This is a little too convenient.

  83. djia, we need to count the stars on that Obama flag, how much you want to bet me it has 57 on it??? ROTFLMAO!!

  84. djia,

    Send that to Rusah and Hannity!

    That is obscene!!!!!!!

    And there are 2 flags, one on each side of the american flag.

    WTF doesn’t someone take him down for this. Isn’t that flag defacement? Isn’t that treason? Isn’t that the same as Ayers stomping on the flag? WTF!!!! Is this country going to be renamed Oberica?????
    I am incensed!!! This is putridly disgusting! I’m beginning to think it’s a sow-motion get the masses used to the new regime coup! First the plane without the flag, then the American seal and now the American flag??????

  85. Oh Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

    I just heard on a DObbs commercial that HRC will be on the show tmorrow talking about why American women should support BO!!!!!!!

    I hate to say it but I have lost respect for her. 🙁 I mayl toss my HRC tee-shirt.

  86. birdgal Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    FL is polling for BO, according to a poster on Riverdaughter.

    ***********************************************************************

    What does this mean?

  87. HillGuy,

    It doesn’t matter to me if the media doesn’t report Palin’s huge crowds. What matters to me is that she even has huge crowds!

    Let the October surprise move into a November surprise at the voting booths!

  88. basil, I see this as a positive. I mean, why would she be doing this unless BO’s internals had him down among women voters?

  89. Lest we let history slip away…

    MN is the home to:

    Paul Wellstone, McCarthy, Stassen, the Democratic Farmer-Labor Party, Hubert Humphrey, the Guv who had been a famous professional wrestler, Jesse Ventura, and the SNL comedian and writer Al Franken running a credible campaign as a Dem against Norm Coleman.

    An Independent can win as easily as a DFL, and several federal elected officials have been members of the Communist Party. Hennipin County is as different from Cass Lake MN as WY is from MA.

  90. Fox pointed out the flag with the big O is the Ohio State Flag.The Hustler is not only stealing the election but also borrowing Ohio’s flag as another tool for mind control.He rally is an illusionist.But what bothers me more is the fact that many people are not verifying their doubts about words and campaign props and throwing it out there as gospel.Careful folks.The hustler will turn our concerns into fodder for his Acorn merchants of fraud and fear.

    By ABM90

  91. Basil: “O” stands for Ohio. Google it, and you will see it. I was surprised.

    Hillguy: I thought that meant that BO was polling ahead of McCain, for whatever that may or not be worth.

    As far as Sen Clinton being on the morning show, maybe PUMAs are making more of a difference than the media or campaigns have been talking about. After all the misogyny and sexism, I don’t know, how any woman or man, can support BO.

  92. Sheriff decries Obama-Ayers relationship
    BY Alex Ebert & Karlee Weinmann
    PUBLISHED: 10/13/2008

    Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek denounced Barack Obama’s unwillingness to speak about his relationship with William Ayers , who Stanek referred to as a “non-repentant terrorist” at a St. Paul press conference Monday.

    Stanek, the Minnesota McCain–Palin co-chair, told the handful of reporters in attendance he is troubled by Obama’s association with Ayers, a current education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 1997 Chicago Citizen of the Year, who was involved in bombings protesting the Vietnam War in the 1970s.

    Ayers, Stanek argued, never renounced his actions as founder of the Weather Underground and as a confessed bomber.

    “As a law enforcement officer of 23 years plus, I’m troubled by Barack Obama’s association with an unrepentant domestic terrorist with the record of terrorizing judges and police,” Stanek said.

    Then Stanek turned tables and talked about Obama’s endorsement of ACORN , a campaign organization that recently registered hundreds of fraudulent voters, abandoning the Ayers concern.

    This type of political statement isn’t common for sheriffs — rather mayors usually give this type of endorsement — Morris campus political science professor and elections expert Paula O’Loughlin said.

    O’Loughlin said this unusual endorsement “testifies to the tightness of the race.”

    She added that candidates and their proxies are visiting Minnesota, which along with Wisconsin, is a highly contested battleground state.

    “And anybody who might be able to pull voters one way or the other is being mobilized,” O’Loughlin said.

    http://www.mndaily.com/2008/10/12/sheriff-decries-obama-ayers-relationship

  93. Basil9, Hang on with your rash decisions about Hillary, she is doing what she has to do and I think there will be news tonight and you will be able to put 2 and 2 together and figure it out. Watch ED HALE tonight, he has a shocker for you all. Its hcsfjm!!

  94. From uppity woman at NQ.
    Excerpts;

    Info from today’s WSJ. Obama’s 95% Illusion
    online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

    Here’s the political catch. All but the clean car credit would be “refundable,” which is Washington-speak for the fact that you can receive these checks even if you have no income-tax liability. In other words, they are an income transfer — a federal check — from taxpayers to nontaxpayers. Once upon a time we called this “welfare,”….

    The Tax Foundation estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS.

    The total annual expenditures on refundable “tax credits” would rise over the next 10 years by $647 billion to $1.054 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. This means that the tax-credit welfare state would soon cost four times actual cash welfare.

    . The welfare state will quadruple, Comrade. A person who pays NO tax whatsoever will be getting all these “Tax refunds” in the name of “Fairness”. They will get a refund check from the IRS consisting of money they never even paid. In other words, it’s the next step in Obama’s plans for The Glorious Cause – Socialism.

    Please be sure to go here and read about the rest of the impact of this pathetic Socialist’s Plans for you, suckers. Want to beat the system. Work part time and stay home and watch TV the rest of the time. If you calculate it right, you will get all those tax “refunds” and earn as much as you do now–for doing nothing. Your government will take care of you, Comrade!

    From my blog, “Uppity Woman“

  95. confloyd,

    I though Hale had shut down?

    And, hate to disagree, but for HRC to tell women they should vote for BO after what he did to her . . .

    ::shaking my head in disbelief::

  96. moononpluto, I too think the new Rasmussen polls are good for McCain despite BO’s lead in most of them. Why? Because in most of the states, his lead is 1-3%. We all know BO closes weakly, and that undecideds will go with the known quantity, McCain.

    Besides, undecideds are simply McCain voters who don’t feel comfortable telling pollsters they’re not for That One.

  97. Basil

    Can I have your shirt?

    ABM90

    Speaking of shirts, I still have your genuine, original Hillary campaign worker shirt, new…well, never worn…size M.

    Never got your address or telephone number so I could get it to you. Want to try again?

  98. Basil9, Ed Hale’s site went back up today as he was able to get security. I spoke to Ed just a minute ago and he told me the story and you all will be shocked. The Birth Certificate is real, Ed was the one who found it not Berg. Ed gave it to Berg!

  99. The Democratic? Taliban Party has lost my respect…I.DON’T.TRUST.THE.PARTY.

    Hillary, this time I will not be voting for a DEMOCRATIC President! I just won’t vote for one who is this anti-democratic.

    What is so sad is that Obama had many chances to earn my vote but he couldn’t put down his corrupted Chicago habits.

    I see Obama as somebody on the LEFT who would be worst then George W. Bush. That would be going backwards and I’m not looking back.

    Also I want to break-up this east coast dominance that they are the only ones who should lead this country. I like that McCain and Palin comes from the West they bring a larger perspective to their leadership that is sorely needed.

  100. basil,

    She’s telling people to vote for Obama? What exactly do you expect her to be doing? Destroying the party she is dedicated to?

    She knows that most of us have minds of our owns. She knows that most won’t vote for him. Its not going to change anything. It’s all in the playbook and I’m fine with that.

  101. confloyd Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
    Basil9, Ed Hale’s site went back up today as he was able to get security. I spoke to Ed just a minute ago and he told me the story and you all will be shocked. The Birth Certificate is real, Ed was the one who found it not Berg. Ed gave it to Berg!
    *****************************************************
    need the link

  102. Dobbs is tearing John Lewis and slurrogate Robert Zimmerman a new one over the George Wallace racist charges.

    So now ALL the dems are in lock-step that any criticism of BO is racist. This is revolting.
    Dobbs also says he’s never heard such a mild retort as the one JM issued.

    Gawd I hope JM pulls something out of his hat tomorrow and changes the momentum.

  103. carbynew, go to yahoo, then hcsfjm, then index, he has some surprising info tonight. Everyone will be shocked

  104. carby, it’s

    hcsfjm

    janh,

    She shouldn’t tell women to vote for him after the sexist he perpetrated and condoned.
    There’s a line you don’t cross and for me that’s a big one. (IMHO)

  105. The most shocking thing about the whole Berg thing is that the Obama camp knows the BC is real and is stalling and are going to run out the clock on the lawsuit until after the election.
    You guys tell me what will happen after that!

  106. JanH Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    I AGREE WITH BASIL9. HILLARY SHOULD NOT BE DOING THIS. IT IS AN AFFRONT TO ALL OF US WOMEN WHO FOUGHT FOR HER. SHE MAY WANT TO REMAIN A DEM BUT TO GET ON NATIONAL TV AND TO SAY IT IS OK WITH ALL THE VILE SEXISM THAT WE, YES WE, INCURRED ALONG WITH HER, IS JUST ABHORRENT. SHE HAS SOLD ALL OF US DOWN THE RIVER. DON’T THINK THE FRAUD CAN’T WIN, OH YES HE CAN!!!

  107. confloyd Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
    ***************************

    Promises that will be broken, ignored..So what were we worth ?

  108. I wonder if anyone sent that video where Obama says that both friends and acorn will help him become president….to Fox or other news channel….

    I went to hcsfjm.com and didnt see anything, where is it?

  109. justmeinmountdorafl, I think the show starts at 7 or 8, not sure. You have to click on live chat and register. Its plains radio!

  110. gonzotx,

    um…I think you could have omitted the caps as well…lol…I’m fine with others not agreeing with me. 😉

  111. Emjay: I wish I could send you my phone # or address but at this time and the political climate,I would surely be subjected to some mean form of restitution that the Hustler and nutty Acorns may have in mind.I have had some pretty nasty remarks thrown at me on a site that has targeted me for my support of hillary and my distaste for Hustler.Google ABM90 and you can see what I mean. Thanks for your support.

    ABM90

  112. ABM90

    I sent you my info thru admin a long time back-

    I’m going to try that again, or ask wbboei-

    Back to you later.

    I understand…I’ve been chased down by bots too, when I was working for our girl.

  113. HillGuy Says: You guys come on. This is a pro-Hillary site. She is doing what she has to do to politically. She knows Gutter Ball will loose, and if she doesn’t vocally support him, the stupid bots will not support her in 2012.
    =============

    That may be her best shot. And if Obama wins this year, she would have no chance later anyway. So the question might be, how likely is her ‘support’ to put Obama over? Maybe she has polls saying it won’t matter, or won’t be enough.

    Or maybe she really thinks that ‘Dems’ in office, even bad Dems, are better for her legislative agenda: UHC etc. Especially with her as an uninterrupted long-term Lioness of the Senate. She’s BEEN president.

  114. dija says: ….and even if they don’t learn of the theft by the dems……they will regret an obama presidency and will still see her as not having good judgement by endorsing him and actively trying to sell him to the american people.
    ==============

    I disagree. I think most people don’t notice that much or think that deeply or remember that long Except people like us, and who else would we support in 2012, if Hillary runs again?

  115. My neighbors put a Obama yard sign today and I hate it. But I also live in a neighborhood filled with it — no McCain sign, but did see a Nobama sign. You think I should get a Nobama sign for my yard and may be start a fight with my neighbor? 🙂

  116. turndownobama, very interesting analysis. Hillary is the smartest person in Washington, by far. I would imagine that she has viewed polls showing that her supporters are so angry at Gutter Ball and hate him so much, and that we know she has to be a good Dem right now. Keep in mind, the people at that rally are BO supporters anyway; that’s why they were there. There is nothing that leads me to believe that a bunch of Hillary supporters from the primaries showed up just to hear Hillary persuade them to vote for BO.

    All those people were at the Palin rally in Johnstown anyway. 🙂

  117. Remember people, Kerry barely won PA in 2004 by 2%…and that was during a race in which Democrats were UNITED.

    We aren’t this year.

  118. # djia Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    oklahomahills Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Ya’ll want Hillary to tell the truth. To whom? (Name a newspaper or TV network.)

    FOX NEWS,HANNITY,RUSH,O’RIELLY,GRETA,

    ****************************

    We listen to them and get their message, but we are the choir. I mean for the people who don’t already know it. JM has to BUY ads to be heard. Even then look at how BM smears them over and smudges them out.

  119. Can you imagine 30,000+ showed up for Palin, and only 20,000 showed up last week for O.

    And he thought he was rid of his women problem when he bullied and cheated HRC. (We know he has a problem with women in power positons).

    Sometimes fate is better than you think.

  120. The huge crowd at Palin events shows that ordinary people, middle America, are craving for changing the status quo as far as women in leadership. It is in stark contrast to the media sexism. This excitement and enthusiasm is heartening. Good for Palin if she develops into a centrist politician.

  121. Hey NewMex!

    The real test will be to see how many show up to Sarah’s rally in Scranton, PA tomorrow. That was where the Clintons were yesterday. I would LMAO if she drew a larger crowd; not because fewer people went to see Hillary, but because Hillary’s REAL supporters (those who need McCain to win in order for Hillary to be Pres in 2012) went to the Palin rally.

  122. pm317, I heard that earlier, I lmao. They were asking ignorant voters what they thought of Obama’s running mate Sarah Palin, and they all said they liked her. LOL

  123. Before I go to bed felt i should post this.
    First Corsi gets sick and doesn’t appear on hannity and now the radio station that was interviewing Phil Berg tonight got shut down.

    from NQ.
    “BLOG TALK RADIO SHUTS DOWN RADIO SHOW TO FEATURE LAWYER BERG

    (from NQ)

    Monday, October 13, 2008
    The Year Of Silencing The Voices continues…

    Soooo, are there more “Truth Squads” out there? Working undercover? Is george soros and moveon.org behind this latest attack?
    AND WHAT WAS THE LEVER?

    No Compromise When it Comes to Being Right!
    Phil Berg is my guest today on No Compromise Radio
    October 13, 2008 • 1 Comment

    UPDATE: I scheduled a show with Attorney Phil Berg who has filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama for not being a US Citizen therefore he is an illegal alien.

    My show was terminated at the beginning of the show. Why? The BTR assistant Director of Customer Relations, Shannon Dingee-Kramer stated that my show was, “racially or ethnically offensive, defamatory, unreasonably violent, threatening, intimidating or harassing; 2. contains falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage BlogTalkRadio or any other person;

    In other words, those who claim to be for free speech are afraid of it when they see it. It might offend someone and that’s far more important to protect than the American Principle of exercising the flow of speech in the arena of public ideas.

    So I am officially off the air until further notice thanks to the Obamunists and Islamists who support him!

    I want to thank all of you for your faithfulness to my growing show.

  124. I have decided that Ed Hale is a republican and so are most of his followers. They don’t want DNC or Biden to pick Hillary if Obama is disqualified. I do think he will be disqualified sooner or later because he was born in Kenya. They think that Biden will chose Hillary for his vp, but I think it will be Nasty Pelosi and I think this is what Nasty has had in mind all along. She has always wanted to ascend to the top spot! Ed Hale is a fraud and not a former Clinton supporter!

  125. So Corsi, now BTR, Is Obama daring people to take it to court if they want and still care for free speech? How can this be in America — the most celebrated and sophisticated democracy in the world, not to mention the richest country in the world?

  126. Came home to his44 after doing my bit for McCain this evening…looked for a comment from Idunn on how the phonebanking went for her, and what do I find? ….

    WELCOME TO THE KILL HILL SITE!

    Think I’ll go slit my throat. G’night.

  127. wbboei Says: ABM 90: you are a very wise man. What you said on the prior thread is the absolute TRUTH. Hillary is doing what needs to be done, it is for the good of the American People and there is a strategy. She is on the side of the angels–and us, as always.
    ==============

    I agree — on basics. Imo she wanted

    1. to establish permanent benefits such as UHC, pre-kindergarten, etc, which would last indefinietly
    2. to give the country good management for the next few years, a good hand at the tiller
    3. symbolic role model smashing of the glass ceiling

    It may be that #2 was … expendable? A means to the end of #1? Certianly less important to her than #1? Well, I’m not putting this right. Is she VIrgo? I can imagine the day to day running of the counrty sought from her sense of duty (and of course the thrill of victory) as she has already been there and done that!

  128. support hillary does nor equal supporting obama. Many. many here have said that waffles is a danger to our country and our way of life.
    If yoiu beleve that o be true how can you suppoprt her supporting him? If our worst fears are a relality under bambi then sen clinton is just as much to blame,

  129. dija says: how is her pushing and dragging BHO across the election finish line good for the american people?
    =============

    Maybe she knows it can’t be done, he will lose anyway. Maybe she knows he will win anyway. Maybe there’s only a very narrow chance that her influence will make the difference. A very narrow maybe.

    Staying on the good side of the bots and the rest of the Dems is likely to come in handy whoever wins. If not for her run in 2012, then for her legisltive agenda. Also getting out there and pushing her issues is a good thing regardless. It will push Obama and/or McCain to adopt some of her policies. McCain is already suggesting something like her HOLC; Obama is now suggesting her mortgage foreclouse moratorium.

    Staying on center course without swerving with each wind of the polls … didn’t admin quote something from Napoleon about that?

  130. Ed Hale said he had the Kenyan bc in his hand and he burned it because he did not want to die. Someone seriously threatened his life and then he also took his own website down. He says an representative of the Obama campaign is protecting him from harm now and is making sure he get killed.
    If you had the bc, why would you burn it, that was the only thing he could use against them. People are just nutz!
    I with ABM 90, I still believe in Hillary and Bill, perhaps they are the only one in Washington that aren’t liar’s!

  131. I think there is a lot here about the situation in the Dem party we do not know.

    I can tell you I was shocked at how Hillary supporters turned on a dime, and started badgering other to do the same. Somehow, all the things they hated about O were unimportant, and no longer true.

    It was like a Doctor Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. I figured out to be a good party member, that is one of the traits.

  132. confloyd Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
    Basil9, Ed Hale’s site went back up today as he was able to get security. I spoke to Ed just a minute ago and he told me the story and you all will be shocked. The Birth Certificate is real, Ed was the one who found it not Berg. Ed gave it to Berg!
    *****************************************************
    One moment he gave it to Berg, the next moment he burned it.

    Which one is it? I don’t believe him

  133. henry,

    You want Hillary, a diehard democrat to endorse a republican? Even if it is her friend, McCain?

    We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this.

  134. I will always support Hillary for president. And going forward, I will only vote for Dem candidates that endorsed Hillary during this primary season. I will never vote for one single candidate who endorsed Gutter Ball. Ever.

  135. I want McCaskill, Pelosi, Clyburn, Reid, Casey Jr., Sebelius, Napolitano, Gregoire, Kerry, Kennedy, Richardson, Dodd, and the rest of ’em to GO DOWN to defeat!

    Especially Sebelius. Hillary wannabe.

  136. Hillguy: I will be voting against my Dimocratic congressman, because he close to Pooplosi and came out in Jan. in support of BO. Our congressional district voted for Senator Clinton, but he endorsed BO very early on. He has been in Congress for 33 years. It is time for a change. He’ll win, but I can vote against him.

  137. I don’t believe for a moment that anyone who had the birth cert went and burned it. This is crazy! I’m beginning to think no one had it to begin with.

    This whole voting system has become a joke. I think bambi has had this whole thing sewed up from the beginning.

  138. basil9 Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
    Oh Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

    I just heard on a DObbs commercial that HRC will be on the show tmorrow talking about why American women should support BO!!!!!!!

    I hate to say it but I have lost respect for her. I mayl toss my HRC tee-shirt.
    ****************

    WHY YOU DO ME LIKE THAT HILLARY?

  139. Dija: initially, I was concerned about the time Hillary has spent campaigning for Obama but upon reflection I see the logic to it.

    1. first, in most of the 50 trips she campaign stops she has made for Obama she was also campaigning for the downticket democrats who supported her in the primary. In other words she supported the party in both respects.

    2. second, I question whether these campaign stops have the impact you might think they do. The fact is most of her supporters who go there have already moved over to Obama. Those who want no part of Obama boycott these events.

    (Note: I may not be the best example but I travelled 10,000 miles campaigning for Hillary in the primary. But I would not walk across the street to see our girl shill for Obama. I love her but all it would do is remind me how the election was stolen.)

    3. Hillary made a number of proposals which would address the pressing needs of our country. She succeeded in incorporating them into the party platform. Also, she made proposals to deal with the current mortgage crisis, some of which have been incorporated into the respective platforms of the two nominees. McCain gave her credit whereas Obama did not. Nevertheless this is a great tribute to her commitment to us.

    4. By campaigning as she has Hillary has earned the right to play an important role in the senate whether or not he wins. I realize he has thrown many people under the bus. However this would be an opportunity to do the right thing and who knows it might be habit forming. Also, she could be a constructive influence in the party.

  140. # oklahomahills Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    # djia Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    oklahomahills Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Ya’ll want Hillary to tell the truth. To whom? (Name a newspaper or TV network.)
    *********************

    FOX NEWS,HANNITY,RUSH,O’RIELLY,GRETA,

    ****************************
    We listen to them and get their message, but we are the choir. I mean for the people who don’t already know it. JM has to BUY ads to be heard. Even then look at how BM smears them over and smudges them out.

    ****************************
    yes, except your not factoring in the fact that the republicans and pac’s would use the news/sound bites in speeches and ads and that would force all of MSM to report on it

  141. wbboei Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 12:56 am

    I understand your logic……but that is a really huge maybe with odds not in her favor or ours

  142. birdgal…you mentioned up thread about o polling ahead in florida…o is on tv nonstop here in florida…on every network…simultaneously…mccain is only very sporadic…

    mccain needs a big push in florida in the last few weeks…he is getting outspent big time by o in florida as of now…

  143. S, all McCain has to do is run an add that shows a pic of BO that says “He didn’t want your vote to count during the primaries. Why should he earn your vote now?”

  144. Basil: I think it is critical that she not lose her voice and she remain visible at a time of crisis for this country. She needs to be at the forefront and this gives her an opportunity to do that.

    I suspect that any support she offers will be policy oriented and provide an opportunity to point out the role she played in their formulation.

    You can worry about the impact on women if you want to but I would not overestimate it for these reasons. First, Hillary supporters for McCain will be unmoved by this. Second, Republicans will be unmoved it. Third, CNN did not support Hillary during the primary therefore the independent audience they have will not be influenced either.

    Wth so many issues pending around Obama himself which have nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary it is important for her to be seen and heard from for the good of the county. At the same time she must not attempt to defend the indefensible–but she can avoid that trap.

    (Note: if you want to worry about something that will hurt McCain and could lose him the election, think about how we can protect the integrity of paperless voting machines. The Pelosi source says that is where Obama tacticians will try to steal the general election.)

    Emjay–do you have any ideas on this?

  145. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k68jF9u3QCbnoENKVM

    I think McCain should use this video of the Fraud and the plummer and make a TV add and run it 24/7. It explains to middle America what the Fraud wants to do with Wealth Redistribution . I think it could be a game changer for Indies and recent converts to the Fraud. The true koolaid drinkers are out of reach. But this is a gold mine in my opinion.

    As far as Fox and Hannity not covering Odinga, that is REALLY troubling. Someone got to them and I don’t think it is ratings, Hannity has ratings and with BillO just ignoring everything, the money has spoken, they want the Fraud.

  146. from a NQ poster

    Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion | 2008-10-13 21:08:21

    OT:

    For Immediate Release
    October 13, 2008

    ICYMI: McCain-Palin Campaign Conference Call On Barack Obama’s Economic Plan

    “Barack Obama today proposed a 90-day foreclosure moratorium. Obama, himself, when Senator Clinton proposed such a foreclosure moratorium, labeled it a ‘disastrous’ policy and proceeded to rail against it. Now he’s proposing it.”
    – Doug Holtz-Eakin

    ARLINGTON, VA — Today, the McCain-Palin campaign held a press conference call with former Congressman Rob Portman and senior policy adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin to discuss Barack Obama’s economic plan:

    Rob Portman: “I think Americans were hoping today that Senator Obama would tell us that he has now decided the economy is bad enough he is not going to move forward with his tax increases.

    “You recall that earlier in the campaign he’d indicated that he might not move forward with his tax increases if the economy were weak. The economy is certainly weak, and it’s weakening every day. Instead what we heard today were a lot of new promises for new spending adding to the $860 billion in additional spending that he’s already promised during the campaign and that is not the way we are going to get ourselves back on track. More spending in fact is going to make the situation worse. It’s one of the reasons we’re in the trouble we’re in. The deficits mounting every year and the debt has hurt our economy in a very direct way by hurting the value of the dollar and increasing the costs for everything from the price of imported oil to our groceries.

    “Instead what Senator McCain is focused on is pro-growth, pro-jobs tax relief while keeping spending under control. And one of the things that I thought was interesting about Senator Obama’s proposals today was the talk about changing the way in which people can withdraw funds from their defined contribution plans, their IRA’s or their 401K’s. And as I read his remarks it sounds like he was saying that people would be able to withdraw funds out up to $10,000 without penalty.

    “Some of you know I spent a lot of time working on this legislation when I was in Congress and of course there is currently a hardship withdrawal for 401K’s and most plans permit that. There’s also withdrawal by the way for first time home buyers and there’s also the ability to get a loan up to $50,000. So I’m not sure what impact that would exactly have except that is would be taking out of retirement savings, assets at a time when those assets are likely be at a very low value. So it’s not clear that there is the need for any new policy in this area because of the consistent ability to deal with hardships and to take out a loan but second it seems like it would be just the wrong thing to encourage American families today who are already struggling to figure out how they are going to be able to prepare for their retirement.

    “The final thing that Senator Obama said that I thought was something that we should all agree with which is that we need a new ethic of responsibility in this country and Senator McCain has been talking about that the entire campaign in terms of personal responsibility with health care for instance and allowing people to keep more of their hard earned money. But if we are talking about a new ethic of responsibility, it seems as though we should start with the federal government and it certainly would not be a new ethic of responsibility to have us not only begin spending over $860 billion in new programs under the existing economic plans Senator Obama has laid out but now additional spending at a time when we are facing big deficits in part because of the economic situation we’re in and the lower revenue, and the debt that has built up that is requiring us to borrow more and more money including from foreign governments and banks that’s putting pre ssure on the dollar and therefore hurting the economy.”

    Doug Holtz-Eakin: “I think what we saw today was the hypocrisy of Barack Obama’s economic policy continuing at the very same time he’s threatening the weak American economy with tax increases, explosive spending proposals, expensive health mandates, a weak energy policy and protectionist trade inclinations. He pretends to offer a, quote, rescue package to Americans, when in fact the rescue is simply from the threat of his own policies. If you look at what he proposed today, I think it reveals the genuine problem. He already had the Tax Policy Center, a group he likes to tout as the non-partisan arbiter, say that John McCain’s policy is better for growth, and we can see why in what he put out today.

    “He proposed a New American Jobs tax credit. That would be a $3,000 tax credit per new job in the United States over the next two years. This is going to be a very expensive proposal that’s going to cost about $170 billion had it been in place in 2007. But think about what it’d have to do. He’s going to offer a $3,000 credit at the same he’s proposing an expensive $12,000 per employee mandate for health insurance, and while the credit would last for two years, the mandate would go on forever. Indeed, at the current rates of inflation, that’d be about a $15,000 mandate at the time it expired. You will hardly undo the damage with a $3,000 credit.

    “He’s, at the moment, dead set on raising the top marginal tax rates, raising dividends and capital gains tax rates. Those top marginal tax rates will affect the small businesses. They create 56% of small business income. Small businesses, those under 50 employees, have created 331,000 jobs in the United States in 2008, despite all the weaknesses out there. They are the only businesses that are creating jobs. They are the only ones doing, on their own, what Barack Obama ostensibly wants to accomplish with this job credit. He wants to raise their taxes. He would be better off dropping the jobs credit and simply stopping the tax increases, letting these folks do the job that they’re doing. His plan with the expensive mandates from health, has been estimated to cost more than 225,000 jobs. It would force employers to lower wages by more than $3 an hour. John McCain’s tax policy, in contrast, would provide a very flexible, even-handed subsidy to all for ms of private insurance, provides for portable insurance that’s not linked to employers, and will not cost Americans their jobs.

    “Barack Obama today proposed a 90-day foreclosure moratorium. Obama, himself, when Senator Clinton proposed such a foreclosure moratorium, labeled it a ‘disastrous’ policy and proceeded to rail against it. Now he’s proposing it.

    “Senator McCain doesn’t want people in foreclosure. He’s taken an aggressive stance to use a portion of the $700 billion that the American public has devoted to financial and economic rescue to make sure that we simultaneously accomplish the goals of keeping Americans in their homes, supporting housing values for every homeowner in America, and stabilizing the value of the toxic mortgage-based assets that’s plaguing the financial system.

    “So, Barack Obama would be much better served to solve the fundamental problems than undertake a ‘disastrous’ policy that would only be a band-aid after the fact. So, we’re seeing more of the same from Barack Obama, lots of talk, nothing that’s going to substantively help the American economy, and tomorrow we’ll hear from John McCain.”

    “Tomorrow, however, he will now turn to the economy, to the pressures facing American families and businesses and we’ll talk about the specific new measures to address those hurt worse by the financial crisis, unlike Barack Obama who has stood on the sidelines at moments of great national crisis. John McCain has consistently addressed the issues that have faced Americans throughout this period, with proposals that will make their lives easier and more bearable in the times of great financial distress, and so we’ll look forward to John McCain’s remarks tomorrow.”

    Listen To The Conference Call

  147. McCain ’08 Shows Gay Pride By Snubbing Hartsuch

    The McCain ’08 campaign refused to allow Senator David Hartsuch to speak at the John McCain rally today. According to a representative of the McCain ’08 campaign, the national campaign office would not approve Senator Hartsuch to speak because of comments which he had made two years earlier in defense of traditional marriage. …
    According to Sen. Hartsuch, “Marriage is not merely the State’s endorsement of a romantic relation, but rather the State’s endorsement of an institution intended to bring up the next generation of children as moral individuals.”

    Senator McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would have defined marriage as only between one man and one woman. At that time, Senator McCain called such prohibitions “Un-Republican”, and “inconsistent with the core values of the party.” In 2002, Senator McCain supported Richter Elser, an openly gay GOP candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives by sending a fund-raising letter to Elser supporters. According to advocate.com, McCain wrote, “Our party’s strength, like our country’s strength, comes from inclusion, not exclusion.”
    learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2008/10/hartsuch-says-h.html

  148. Confloyd: thank you for inviting me to tune in to Ed Hale tonight and listen to what he had to say. I agree with your summary above. But the main thing that intrigued me was the first caller.

    His was Jim Bot, aks bot–and take a wild guess who he supported. The bot wanted all Eds listeners to know that The Man had nothing to do with the death threat launched against ed on Friday by person or persons unknown. Nawthing. The bot blamed it all on Momma E. (Alibi please).

    What transpired thereafter was a death dance between a cobra and a mongoose. Ed had a bad cold but that did not prevent him from delivering a sharp riposte to his adverary.

    He told the bot point blank he had seen the birth certificate with his own two eyes–we later leaned on a JPEG which he burned in response to the death threat. And he noted that it had a valid seal, named the hospital and included the names of hospital administrators and nurses who had witnessed the birth.

    Whereupon the bot tried to hum and haw his way out of it but Ed was persistent. He asked the bot to assume for that the birth certificate was valid and tell him how Obama could be eligible to be president under Article 2 and proceeded to recite the govening language, i.e. over 35 and born in the United States or naturalized.

    Whereupon the bot stepped to the side of the riposte and told Ed the language of the Constitution was vague so there is wiggle room.
    They got into a short convoluted discussion about legislation but it was the wrong legislation. They talked about legislative reaffirmation of McCains status, rather than the 1952 act that further defines the governing requirement and would have pinned the bots spock ears to the wall

    In the ensuing confusion, the bot asked Ed the coup d gras question of the evening which had not one fucking thing to do with the issue of legality which they were discussing: “do you doubt that barack obama is a loyal american?”

    Ed made a tactical decision to ignore the question and so in terms of fencing he sidestepped the reposte. If it had been me I would have anwerered it something like this.

    In order for him to be a loyal American he must first be an American. That is what attorney Phil Berg is trying to establish through the lawsuit filed in US District Court. If he is an American then why does he refuse to produce a valid bc?

    But assuming he is an American it is very hard for me to believe that he is a loyal one given the following:

    A 17 year relationship with a convicted political fixer, a 20 year relationship with preacher who screams goddam america from the pulpit and applauds the terrorist who committed 9/11, knowingly befriends and associates with a domestic version of Osama bin Ladin, is supported by Farakan, Hamas, Black Panthers, Fonda, Hayden, Sarandon and every other nut from here to Mecca, has a half brother who thinks it would be a good thing to institute shirah law whose followers murder christians, refuses to wear a flag pin or salute the American flag, carries around his own imperial seal, employs organizations that promote voter fraud.

  149. I hope everyone boycotts the stations O will be on.

    As for the commercials, most people are tunning them out. My sister says everytime one comes on she turns the channel. There is such a thing as over kill.

  150. bill kristol (sp) had some good advice yesterday for senator McCain – (i am paraphrasing) get your face and governor palins face out there doing all the morning shows, press chats at every campaign stop, use every local media outlet when campaigning, etc. why stay hidden? get out there and use every opportunity to spread your message.

    this cloistered campaign shit just ain’t working.

  151. oh yeah, the negative stuff ain’t working either. get positive. the last thing americans want to hear is shit-slinging in tough times.

  152. btw – strange occurrence last evening

    all attempts at logging into the “Hillaryis44” site kept re-routing me to the “Let’s stick-it-up Hillary’s ass” web-site. anyone else have that problem?

  153. wbboei: Nobody can spell out a direct quote or convey an analysis of a situation as well as you do for us.True to your party,principals and wide experience in world politics.The one thing that stands out in my view is that you are above all honest and a true patriot and can support a candidate that will be best for the people and the country.Your choice of Hillary Clinton is the inspiraration that keeps me wanting to read more and more of your comments and I hope you will continue to do so,no matter who wins the GE. With you on our quest for the best candidate it can be acheived.

    “TO THINK WE MAY STILL HAVE HILLARY IS THE THOUGHT THAT MANY AMERICANS ARE PRAYING FOR ”

    BY ABM90

  154. BO throws ACORN under the bus
    “The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn, claiming Mr. Obama never organized with it and has nothing to do with illegal voter registration. Yet it’s disingenuous to channel cash into an operation with a history of fraud and then claim you’re shocked to discover reports of fraud. As with Rev. Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers, Mr. Obama was happy to associate with Acorn when it suited his purposes. But now that he’s on the brink of the Presidency, he wants to disavow his ties.
    The Justice Department needs to treat these fraud reports as something larger than a few local violators. The question is whether Acorn is systematically subverting U.S. election law — on the taxpayer’s dime.”
    online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

  155. JJ tells the country to prepare for change, especially in Israel.
    This should cheer the Jewish community. 👿
    New York Post – 10/14/08

    . . . . . . The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.

    Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    “Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.”

  156. It’s a 2-point race. ::fingers crossed::

    by Bill Dupray in: Barack Obama, Economy, John McCain, Polls

    UPDATE: IBD has updated the link with the results.

    ORIGINAL POST:

    Nothing yet at the official IBD site on this but they have it at The Corner.

    The highly accurate IBD/TIPP poll has started today with its daily tracking of likely voters. Just off the press: Obama 45; McCain 43; and 13 percent unsure. The poll of 825 likely voters has an error margin of +/- 3.5 percentage points. Also, McCain has a 48-41 lead among investors with 10 percent not sure. All this is good news for McCain.

    That’s the closest of any poll at RCP since the third week in September.

    IBD’s poll just after the GOP Convention had Obama up by 5.

    Not to cherry pick, but Zogby has Obama by 4 and Rasmussen has him by 5, down from 8 a week ago.

    Three historically accurate polls peg it at a 2-5 point race. This ain’t over by a longshot.

  157. FOX running the clip of BO telling ACORN
    “. . .. .before I get inaugurated, during the transition, I will be calling you (ACORN) in to shape the agenda.”

  158. And another, from UppityWoman’s Blog:

    Admin, these might be worth a look for you too. Five in all.

    Uppity Woman writes:

    The Central bank is the antithesis of Democracy and was never meant to be. But the truth is, a handful of very wealthy people control all the money. They control all the other banks and they control us. we just LOOK free.

    You might be interested in the zeitgeist series of five videos, if you want to be frightened.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ&feature=related

    Please watch them. All five. Everyone should watch them. You will see that what was done in the past to us is being done to us right this very moment.

  159. . . . . . . The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.

    Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    He’s out to ruin Obama lol Unbelieveable!

  160. Would Martinique be a good place to run a multi-million dollar money laundering operation? (OBAMA)
    HillBuzz ^ | 10-14-08 | hillbuzz

    (Regarding Obama’s alleged affair and removal of his FINANCE DIRECTOR being sent to Martinique one year ago – is there a money laundering scheme going on?)

    It also seems like a pretty good place for someone, oh, we don’t know who, to set up a multi-million dollar money laundering operation.

    In a Grisham novel, a young campaign Finance Director for a campaign heavily steeped in fraud would leave the States for someplace like Martinique, where she could set up an elaborate operation to channel foreign campaign contributions in the hundreds of millions into a money laundering operation that could conceiveably take this enormous infusion of Saudi and Soros money and break it down into anonymous $199 increments — all to skate under the radar triggered by donations over $200.

  161. Moon – there is no conspiracy theory about this clown that, at this point, I would disregard out-of-hand.

  162. Good Morning,

    It has become amazingly close. Really, McCain looks like he is gaining ground, and there are still undecided.

    I think they thought those increased polls for O would create a move in his direction. When it did not, they had to move to more realistic polls, as when the election comes, and they miss the mark, they would lose credibility.

    There are no standards here for polling, so they can figure those % anyway they want. However, if they continue to miss the mark so badly, people will start to ignore them, and they will no long be used by anyone.

    Of course the amazing thing is this was suppose to be the Democratic year, and O was suppose to win by the biggest margin ever.

    IF HE LOSES, IT WILL BE A MAJOR BLOW TO THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP.

    It could not happen to a nicer group.

  163. Official Fraud investigation in Ohio, we’re off, go go go

    Cuyahoga County elections officials seek fraud probe of ACORN (Prosecutor asked to investigate)

    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/13/acorn_probe.html?sid=101

    CLEVELAND — Election officials in swing state Ohio’s most populous county asked a prosecutor today to investigate alleged voter-registration fraud, including 73 registrations obtained from one man by an advocacy group under fire in other states.

    The bipartisan Cuyahoga County Board of Elections voted unanimously to ask county Prosecutor Bill Mason to investigate multiple registrations by four people who signed forms at the behest of a community organizing group, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN.

  164. Goodmorning everyone, I could not go to sleep last night after all of Ed’s BS. This whole thing is nightmare on elm street. How in the hell did this guy get this far??

    Does anyone know when early voting begins in Texas??

    I hope we can get this guy out soooon!

  165. I just got what is written below by email. I had heard they wanted to Tax the profit made on your home, but this is the first I had heard of taxing the stock market investments. IS THIS TRUE?

    Below are their words, not mine.
    ——————————-

    Windfall Tax on Retirment Income

    Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you’re so darn stupid that we’re going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That’s what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below……………
    Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren’t going to believe this.
    Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas , it is true – all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!
    This woman is frightening.
    She quotes…’ We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn’t Mar x say something like this), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.’ ( I am not rich, are you)
    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
    ‘We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Amer icans’.’ (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in. ‘Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it’.
    ———————-
    Does any one know if she has indeed proposed this?

  166. OBAMA SEX PERV SCANDAL – NATIONAL ENQUIRER

    For seven years, the presidential candidate had a “father-son” relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, who has confessed to having sex with children, sadomasochism, bondage and practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities.

    In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father, Obama identifies his childhood mentor only as “Frank,” but Obama insiders later confirmed he was referring to Davis, a journalist and poet who was a pal of Obama’s maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham.

  167. Oh this is going to hurt, The NE has done a hit job….

    The ENQUIRER exclusively reports a “sex pervert” was Sen. Barack Obama’s longtime mentor and “father figure”.

    For seven years, the presidential candidate had a “father-son” relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, who has confessed to having sex with children, sadomasochism, bondage and practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities.

    In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father, Obama identifies his childhood mentor only as “Frank,” but Obama insiders later confirmed he was referring to Davis, a journalist and poet who was a pal of Obama’s maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham.

    Frank Marshall Davis admitted in his private papers that he had secretly authored a hard-core pornographic autobiography called Sex Rebel: Black, published in 1968. The author of the book – a copy of which was been obtained by The ENQUIRER – is listed as “Bob Greene.” Davis later confessed to its authorship after a reader noticed similarities in style and phraseology between that book and Davis’ poetry.

    Davis confessed: “I could not truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.”

    The appalling catalog of admitted real-life decadence is laced with perverted sexual activity, bisexuality, rape – and the seduction of children.

    “Davis’ admission he wrote this disturbing book exposes Obama’s mentor as living a secret double life – and as a sexual pervert,” disclosed a source.

    In his shocking tell-all, Davis admits to seducing a thirteen year-old girl, voyeurism, exhibitionism, bisexuality, rape and sadomasochism.

    Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life.

    Obama’s grandfather introduced Barry and Davis because he believed it would help his alienated grandson identify with being of mixed heritage because Barack’s mother, Ann, was a white American while his father, Barack Sr.black Kenyan.

    Obama’s parents separated and then divorced when Barack was only 2. Ann remarried and took Barack to live with her and new husband Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia – but Barack was later sent to live with his white grandparents in Honolulu, Hawaii.

    Barack describes how Frank Davis had a lasting effect on him and became a father figure over the seven years they knew one another on the tropical island.

    In Dreams from My Father, Obama wrote: “He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an emptied jelly jar.

    “As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks.”

    Obama described being counseled by Frank often and recalled drinking whiskey with him.

    Since Frank Davis has been identified as the author of Sex Rebel: Black, Obama has been extremely secretive about the true nature of his experience with the self-admitted deviant.

  168. As O would say again, Davis is not the person I thought he was, another person under the bus.

    Can it get much worse, and people continue to stick their fingers in their ears.

  169. Hey, skinny, tall, good looking, young black boy who wore flip flops and short short OP shorts, with no mother, abandoned father, being ‘introduced’ by his pot smoking grandfather to a another old commie perve that ‘counseled’ him, and in the youths own words was critically import to him?

    What? What? Who would think somethings going on?

    Anyways, Wright, Ayers, Frank Dunham? Seems like Barry is attracted to abusive, powerful older men.

  170. Moononpluto

    Your phrase, O has been extremely secretive about the true nature of his experience with the self-admitted deviant, is interesting.
    ————-

    We have all kinds of times in his past, his birth certificate, and many relationships, that appear to be secretive.

  171. Moon, is this stuff about Davis in the National Enquirer now?? I have often wondered if this could have happened.

  172. It comes across to me, that Obama has hatred directed towards strong women, I personally think it stems from his mother and Grandmother, there is something not right here about this family, its way dysfunctional and boy does he go to great lengths not to discuss them.

  173. Hey Basil…I watched the entire thing, but segment five the sound was corrupted. Not sure if it is my computer or what, but there are comments so I assume it was correct at one time.

    Creepy stuff, to be sure. Not so sure I boy ALL of it, but there is enough “there, there” that it really makes you gag.

    And in the middle of watching it, I get this news alert from NYT. Timing is everything when you are watching something like that.

    To underscore a point in the film,….

    Bush Calls Plan to Invest $250 Billion in Banks ‘Essential’

    President Bush, speaking from the Rose Garden Tuesday before
    the markets opened in New York, called the government plan to
    invest up to $250 billion in banks essential to help assure
    stability in the financial system. The president described
    the government’s new proposal, which includes a guarantee on
    new debt issued by banks and other measures, as
    “unprecedented and aggressive.”

  174. Moononpluto

    Yes his hatred of Strong women is obvious, and you are right has to be traced back to his childhood, and the culture he came out of.

    You are likeable enough Hillary to me spoke volumes. MO is of use to him to complete the perfect package needed for the Presidency.

  175. People he has surrounded himself with have utilitarian value mostly politically as he tried to carve out his future. It is almost like he is thinking how can I use this person to benefit me. Is it a common trait among abused children as they grow into adulthood?

  176. Hi, Hillfriends: Admin, thank you for your strong, logical case and powerful writing. I hope that the media are reading.

    Just stopping in quickly before working to share this link that my husband found with you – can someone please get this to Hannity? Warning: they’re all pretty disgusting, but the one on the bottom, left is the one that goes way over the line– I personally think that the sporadic responses in the McCain-Palin rallies pale in comparison to this kind of stuff. Apologies if it was already posted upthread.

    http://www.tshirthell.com/search.php?search=Palin

  177. pm317 Says:

    October 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
    My neighbors put a Obama yard sign today and I hate it. But I also live in a neighborhood filled with it — no McCain sign, but did see a Nobama sign. You think I should get a Nobama sign for my yard and may be start a fight with my neighbor?
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Put up the Nobama sign, and let them start the fight. Just say you wanted to express your opinion as much as they wanted to express theirs, that this was supposed to be a free country.

  178. The next time a bot tries to tell you that the gathering storm around bambi is a fiction and where there is so much smoke there is really no fire you may want to tell him a short story about the infamous outlaw John Welsley Harden.

    By way of backround Harden was a Texan as I recall who followed the cattle drive north along the old Chislom trail or Sedalia trail. He was good with a gun but had a vile temper, and managed to terroize many frontier towns til he ran into a sheriff who sent him to that big round up in the sky. (No, not Martinique).

    In one of his many misadventures, Harden was hanging out in the town of Deadwood and one night he managed to shivvy a young cowboy into a gunfight which resulted in one more notch in Hardens gunbelt. The town sheriff Wild Bill Hickock was sitting in the barroom playing poker the moment before it happened.

    Suddenly, over the din of the barrom and the piano refrains three gunshots broke throught the night air. Hickock leaped from the table rushed in the steet with gun drawn. There he found the all too familar site of Harden standing beside the dead man, with the cold demeanor of a killer.

    Hickock walked up to Harden, spurs jingling and took his gun. Then he leaned down and checked the cowboy for a pulse. There was none. He then turned to face Harden. The first words out of Hardens mouth were it “Sheriff it was self defense, everyone here saw it. . . . .

    Hickock reached into his pocket and pulled out a piece of chawing tobacco, and reconoitered the position of the body, the path of the bullet and asked the gathering crowd whether anyone saw it different. No answer.

    The Hickock turned to face Harden and he said something which is equally apporpos in this case as the storm of controversies which big media has been suppressing for 15 months finally begins to gather around Bambi as it had with Harden.

    “Self defense huh? Well sir maybe it is and maybe it aint but theres one thing I can say for sure: I’ll be damned if I ever met a man who needed so much self defending!”

    (Note: here lies Les More, five shots from an A-44, no less no more–Boot Hill),

  179. righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2008/08/obamas-peverted-communist-friend-frank.html

    Harnden flatly asserts that “The book, which closely tracks Mr. Davis’s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex. One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr. Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr. Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her.”

    Harnden added, “He then described how he and his wife would have sex with the girl” many times over the course of several weeks.
    Why did Stanley Dunham – the grandfather – take Barack junior to visit with Frank Davis Marshall’s all the time?
    PERHAPS BECAUSE HE ALSO KNEW THAT FRANK WAS BARACK’S REAL FATHER.
    From whom did Barack Junior really INHERIT his literary skills?

    PERHAPS FROM HIS REAL FATHER – THE AUTHOR AND POET FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.

    FACT:

    Frank Marshall Davis wrote in his fictionalized memoir that he and his wife had a threesome with a young white girl named Ann, aged 14.

    COULD THIS HAVE REALLY BEEN STANLEY ANNE DUNHAM, AGED 17?

    WAS HER MARRIAGE TO BARACK SENIOR MERELY AN ACT OF CONVENIENCE FOR THEM BOTH?

    You don’t get into the inner echelons of Chicago politics without being sent by someone connected. They always ask, “WHO SENT YOU?”

    WHO SENT OBAMA? Was it Ayers – who he might have met in Colombia, or was it through his real biological father, Frank Marshall Davis?

    The stories we have been told by the Obama camp don’t add up.

  180. BARACK NOT A LOX IN NOVEMBER

    From last week op-ed piece in the LA Times:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-hakim8-2008oct08,0,7556350.story

    Sarah Silverman and the Jewish vote
    Her Great Schlep video is funny, as in peculiar.
    By Anat Hakim
    October 8, 2008

    Sarah Silverman’s Great Schlep video has been making the rounds among my friends. It encourages young Jews to go visit old Jews in Florida to stop them from picking John McCain and Sarah Palin over Barack Obama and Joe Biden. The message, you see, is that the younger Jews “get it” and it’s old Jews who need to “get in line.” As a thirtysomething Jew in Florida who just traveled north for the High Holidays and worked to convince my relatives that their decision to vote for Obama was misguided, I find the Silverman video funny. Funny peculiar, not funny ha-ha.

    A lot has been made of the Jewish vote this year, and sadly without much analysis. Can this tiny group of people — 2% of the national population — make much of a difference? Well, maybe, in a tight election. In Florida in 2000, just a few hundred people could have flipped the state and the election. In Ohio in 2004, about 60,000 voters (out of about 5.6 million) could have changed the outcome. But would that be your Bubbie? Does Zayde make a difference?

    Because Jews tend to live in discrete locales and nearly all of them vote, the Jewish vote could be determinative in some places. There are not enough Jews or the vote is too lopsided in places such as Wyoming and California, but there are nine states where the size of the Jewish population was larger than the size of victory for either President Bush or Sen. John Kerry in 2004: Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. All of these states except New York and New Jersey are so-called swing states in 2008.

    But, of course, not all Jewish votes are movable. Since the time of Franklin Roosevelt, most Democratic presidential candidates have been able to count on about 75% of the Jewish vote, with some variation. Lyndon Johnson received as high as 90% of the Jewish vote in 1964, while Jimmy Carter received only 45% of the Jewish vote in 1980. Given these extremes, it seems that only about half of the Jewish population is actually in play.

    And what are the issues that Jews vote on? As it turns out, what Jews care about are mostly the same things as the rest of the U.S. (Shock!) In a recent survey by the liberal J Street Group in Washington, the top three issues for American Jews are: the economy, the war in Iraq and healthcare. Just like for non-Jewish American voters, lunch-bucket issues rule the day and social issues — separation of church and state, education and abortion — are at the end of the list.

    But there is one issue on which Jewish voters may be especially liable to swing: Israel. In the J Street survey, Israel falls in the middle of the list in terms of importance. And yet, in recent elections, when red flags are raised about political candidates on the issue of Israel, there can be large shifts among Jewish voters. Carter’s vote total plunged from 71% of the Jewish vote in 1976 to 45% in 1980, and President George H.W. Bush’s vote total dropped from 35% in 1988 to just 11% in 1992. Carter’s pro-Arabist approach to the Middle East and Bush’s withholding of a giant loan package to Israel in the face of massive Soviet immigration were the likely culprits — positions that gave Jews that feeling in their kishkes that something was just not right.

    The Great Schlep is meant to counteract the feeling that many Jews have right now that something is just not right about Obama.

    Obama’s words strike a nice tone about Israel. In his speech before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, he proclaimed support for Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel. But the next day, the Obama campaign backtracked on that statement in a manner that numerous Jewish leaders described as troubling. In this election cycle he has claimed that he’s a strong supporter of Israel’s security, but he has previously said that “nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.” And he pointedly sidestepped a condemnation of Carter’s meeting with Hamas earlier this year.

    It’s not just Obama’s words but his actions and associations that leave many Jews feeling uneasy. For some, it’s his association with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., whose frightening anti-American, anti-Israel rants are matched only by the mind-boggling fact that Obama embraced him for 20 years and raised his daughters in Wright’s church. For others, it’s Obama’s relationships at one time or another during the campaign with folks such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samantha Power, retired Air Force Gen. Merrill “Tony” McPeak and Robert Malley that are a cause of great concern.

    This crowd has left many Jews worried that Obama will, to put it charitably, not serve Israel well, either because these people instinctively blame Israel for the failure of Mideast peace initiatives, or justify the terrorist regimes that murder its citizens, or place terrorists and the dictatorships that enable them on the same moral plane as Israel.

    A candidate’s stance on Israel represents for many Jews the way he views the world. Will he stand up for minority interests? Will he stand up for moral truths as opposed to moral relativism?

    They want a president who recognizes that the rest of the world is not just like us and that, sometimes, the U.S. must lead the world, even if it makes us unpopular. They want a president who is able to call evil by its name and never forget that inhumanity is not only possible but omnipresent, to see unequal claims for what they are.

    It’s Sarah Silverman who doesn’t “get it.” For me, going north and persuading my relatives to vote for McCain and Palin was no schlep at all. In fact, it was well worth the trip.

    Anat Hakim is an attorney and writer who lives in Florida.

  181. newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/14/obama-pushed-our-kids-lit-textbook

    Obama Pushed on Our Kids in 8th Grade Textbook
    By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
    October 14, 2008 – 03:04 Est

    Over at RealDebateWisconsin Fred Dooley was contacted by the mother of a Racine Unified School District 8th grade student in Wisconsin public schools about an outrageous thing she found in her son’s school textbook. Apparently, in this textbook supposedly teaching about literature, one of the books being pushed as a perfect example of that subject is Barack Obama’s memoir Dreams from my Father. That’s right, a book by a current political candidate for president is being pushed on our children as “literature.” It also seems probable from campaign donation records that a principle member of the publishing company is a large Obama donor.

    One would think that focusing on the ideology of a politician currently running for president would be a bit over-the-top even for our extreme left leaning system of education in this country. But there it is anyway. The book even presents a photo of the Senator at a campaign rally with signs advertising his campaign website address to help better indoctrinate the kids.

    *******go to the link above to continue reading, story includes a letter by the mother********

  182. You think I should get a Nobama sign for my yard and may be start a fight with my neighbor?
    —————————————–
    If it were me I would be more subtle about it. Put a free charles manson sign in his yard right beside his obama sign, and change the name on his mailbox to read bot.

  183. yesterday I reported this

    debbie Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    let me take you back in history, not too far back.

    Dewey was expected to beat Truman in the 1948 election. All the media said so, the polls (Gallup gave the election to Dewey by 49.5% to 44.5%.) said so but..who turned out to be president?
    ++++++++
    Today FOX reported this:

    Gallop: Dewey by 49.5% Truman 44.5%.

    Coincidence? I don’t think so..I’m betting FOX watches Big Pink!

  184. Obama’s third fund-raising arm
    By
    Lynn Sweet
    on October 14, 2008 5:22 AM
    blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/obamas_third_fundraising_arm.html

    WASHINGTON — On July 11, the Obama operation created an additional new fund-raising arm that has been fund-raising below the radar, in a drive to collect and funnel money to Democratic parties in 18 key battleground states to register voters and turn out the vote for Barack Obama and down ticket Democratic contests.

    The “Committee for Change” just as “Obama for America” and the “Obama Victory Fund” — is part of the effort to elect Obama. By forming a third committee, the Obama campaign can go to donors who have given the maximum under federal contribution limits imposed on the first two committees but have not totally “maxed out.” A similar set-up was in place in 2004 for the Kerry campaign.

    On Friday in Chicago, the featured speakers at a “Committee for Change” fund-raiser are Joe Rospars, the Obama campaign new media director and Mike Slaby, the technology director for the campaign, with national headquarters on Michigan Avenue. A ticket goes for $500; with co-chairs having to raise or donate $25,000.

    One of the co-hosts: Robert Blackwell Jr., a longtime Obama friend, businessman and ping pong “Killerspin” magnate. In April, the Los Angeles Times revealed that Blackwell was an $8,000-a-month Obama legal client (before election to the Senate) and that Obama later wrote a letter for Blackwell for a state grant.

    My beef: While the names of the donors giving to this Committee for Change of course are reported — $1.89 million raised according to a September filing — its fund-raising activities have been done out of sight. The Obama campaign has championed transparency, and “they should not shy away from telling the public what they are doing,” said Chris Holman, the campaign finance lobbyist for Public Citizen.

    From Obama-Biden spokesman Nick Shapiro: “The Campaign for Change is a state party-based voter registration and GOTV project working to elect Senator Obama as well as benefit the entire Democratic ticket in each state. CFC will work to harness the enthusiasm of Obama’s grass-roots-level supporters and organize them in communities across the state — neighbor to neighbor, friend to friend and colleague to colleague — working for the benefit of Democratic candidates up and down the ticket.”

  185. I wouldn’t step one foot into your neighbor’s yard. Make your preferences known with the signage you decide to display in your yard. Getting in your neighbor’s faces is just playing their game and will probably result in huge headlines that are anti-McCain.

    In other words, the bots can get away with murder.

  186. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samantha Power, retired Air Force Gen. Merrill “Tony” McPeak and Robert Malley that are a cause of great concern.
    ——————————————–
    The writer is correct. Regardless of who he might be able to bamboozle now–people like Bronfman (heir to the Segrams fortune) who is forever meddling in politics and has probably drank the koolaide, the gravitational pull of his Muslim roots and contacts would pull bambi away from our traditional relationship with Israel and toward a more muslim friendly realtionship. From the standpoint of history, affinity, and the realpolitik political philosophy of people like Bismark and most recently Kissinger this is a bad move for our country. There are three countries that stick together through thick and thin and changes of government–US Britain and Israel. You see it in special forces military issues and so many other places. A change in that relationship could be very destabilizing.

  187. yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-exported-rev-wrights-hate-us.html

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008
    Obama Exported Rev. Wright’s Hate the US Ideology To Africa

    Senator Obama might not have sat through Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s Sermons but he did a great job of trying to spread his Ideology throughout the world. Through the charity that he managed with William Ayers, the Annenberg Challenge (the same Annenberg that owns Factcheck.org) the Junior Senator from Illinois funded the “South Shore African Village Collaborative.” The group taught teachers in Africa

    the United States is shaped by “capitalism, competitiveness, racism, sexism and oppression.” According to Warfield-Coppock, these American values “have confused African American people and oriented them toward American definitions of achievement and success and away from traditional African values.” American socialization has “proven to be dysfuntional and genocidal to the African American community,” Warfield-Coppock tells us. The answer is the adolescent rites of passage movement, designed “to provide African American youth with the cultural information and values they would need to counter the potentially detrimental effects of a Eurocentrically oriented society.”

    If that doesn’t sound like the wrong Reverend Wright, nothing does. But there is much more:

    Wright 101
    Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism

    By Stanley Kurtz

    It looks like Jeremiah Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. Not only did Barack Obama savor Wright’s sermons, Obama gave legitimacy — and a whole lot of money — to education programs built around the same extremist anti-American ideology preached by Reverend Wright. And guess what? Bill Ayers is still palling around with the same bitterly anti-American Afrocentric ideologues that he and Obama were promoting a decade ago. All this is revealed by a bit of digging, combined with a careful study of documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the education foundation Obama and Ayers jointly led in the late 1990s.

    John McCain, take note. Obama’s tie to Wright is no longer a purely personal question (if it ever was one) about one man’s choice of his pastor. The fact that Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Wright’s anti-Americanism means that this is now a matter of public policy, and therefore an entirely legitimate issue in this campaign.

    African Village
    In the winter of 1996, the Coalition for Improved Education in [Chicago’s] South Shore (CIESS) announced that it had received a $200,000 grant from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That made CIESS an “external partner,” i.e. a community organization linked to a network of schools within the Chicago public system. This network, named the “South Shore African Village Collaborative” was thoroughly “Afrocentric” in orientation. CIESS’s job was to use a combination of teacher-training, curriculum advice, and community involvement to improve academic performance in the schools it worked with. CIESS would continue to receive large Annenberg grants throughout the 1990s.

    continue reading this is a long article

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-exported-rev-wrights-hate-us.html

  188. Report: Credit card fraud for Obama

    Dead people. Fake people. Cartoon characters.

    Now, it looks like Obama supporters are going after unsuspecting credit card fraud victims, too. Better check your Visa and Amex bills twice:

    A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam.

    Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month — a $2300 donation to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. The Larman’s say they don’t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they’re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.

    They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.

    “(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,” said Steve Larman. “It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.”

    The Larman’s don’t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.

    “They (Chase) kept on asking me ‘are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama’,” said Rachel Larman. “And I repeatedly said ‘Im voting for McCain – I would not be going to an Obama site’.”

    Chase dropped the charge from the Larman’s card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it’s too late.

  189. Who is hosting the debate tomorrow? Is there anyway they can tell Obama to abide by the rules and shut up after his time allotment?

  190. After that firebombing incident in Portland a few days ago, a friend called and told me this:

    Fact: in Bellevue Washington bots have been breaking car windows which have mccain bumper stickers, thrown feces on houses promoting mccain, and set fire to a large mccain sign.

    Result: it is dangerous to publicly promote mccain in our town. Bambi signs and bumper stickers are common and mccain signs are seldom seen. This violence is having a chilling effect on political discussion and debate.

    Responsibilty: I cannot say whether bambi intended these specific acts to occur. But he knew what he was doing when built a campaign and tutored his followers in the tactics of camp obama that sooner or later it would come to this. In that sense he is responsible–politically.

    Corrupt Media: ironically, big media claims McCain is the one who is promoting violence. They are so invested in Obama that they have lost their grip on reality, and are determined to promote a lie in the vain hope that this will protect their credibility. If he does win they will be stuck with that lie and will continue to promote it until they become actors in the theater of the absurd.

  191. wbboei,

    Obama is 100% responsible for these actions. He incites and then runs for cover like the coward he is. The DNC are also culpable!

  192. Its Bob Schieffer, so no fucking chance, he’ll probably ask him if he wants a pillow.
    ——————————————
    CBS has been the second most in the bag for obama non-cable network–behind NBC. They are owned by Westinghouse. Scheiffer is not strong enough to enforce the rules against bambi. Nevertheless if it were me I would send them a letter cautioning them and publish that letter subsequent to the debate if they let things slide. I would send a copy of it to the Obama campaign as well so everyone was on notice and could not deny it at a later time. This is not pressuring tactics but merely an effort to see what has occurred in the past and learn from it. Since this is the final debate it should be done with scurpulous fairness. The network of Edward R Murrow, Cronkite and my hero Sevarid owes that much to its viewing audience.

  193. Obama is 100% responsible for these actions. He incites and then runs for cover like the coward he is. The DNC are also culpable!
    ————————————–
    That is indeed the pattern.

  194. # wbboei Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    You think I should get a Nobama sign for my yard and may be start a fight with my neighbor?
    —————————————–
    If it were me I would be more subtle about it. Put a free charles manson sign in his yard right beside his obama sign, and change the name on his mailbox to read bot.
    ———————————-

    wbboei, Great suggestion! 😉

    They have seen my Hillary sign for most of the primary and even later. I still have her sticker on my car. So they probably know where I stand. The neighbors on the other side are generally split — he a Texas moderate repub and she a MD Dem. But I am sure they will vote his way this time.

  195. debbie, Janh, come on, my question about picking a fight with the neighbors was in jest and wbboei was also joking with his response. Sense of humor…

  196. Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month — a $2300 donation to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign
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    How many times have we heard big media marvel at how creative Obama has been in this massive fundraising efforts. To paraphase Start Trek writer Gene Rodberry Messiah Obama has gone to places no fundraiser has gone before. Well, the above is one example of it.

    Hope, change, revolution.

  197. HRC says chance she will ever run for prez again is close to zero.

    🙁

    i also heard she stumped hard for BO this morning and said she was disappointed in women who refuse
    to vote for BO or something to that effect.

    🙁 🙁

  198. Actor Duvall Blasts Palin Critics at Fundraiser
    October 14, 2008 8:24 AM

    Introducing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin at a GOP fundraiser Monday, actor Robert Duvall blasted conservatives who have criticized the McCain-Palin ticket in recent days, calling conservative columnist George Will a “super-nerd” and former Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson a “block of wood”.

    At an RNC fundraiser in McLean, VA, Duvall introduced Palin for the third time since her nomination to the Republican ticket, taking the opportunity to accuse Republicans critical of the McCain campaign as giving “credence to the other side.”

    “It bothers me that certain people in the Republican Party are attacking the McCain-Palin ticket, like super-nerd George…What’s his name?” Duvall asked, prompting a few attendees to laugh and shout out George Will. “George…George, I can’t even think. George Will,” Duvall said, referring to the Washington Post columnist who has been critical of Palin.

    The legendary actor then attacked former Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson, who campaigned with McCain last Friday in La Crosse, Wisconsin. Thompson had expressed unhappiness with the McCain campaign in an article that appeared in Sunday’s New York Times. Asked if he was happy with Sen. McCain’s campaign, Thompson told the paper, “No,” adding, “I don’t know who is.”

    “Tommy Thompson of uh, that original block of wood, from Wisconsin,” Duvall responded at the fundraiser. “He attacked the team today. I mean, that’s like being, instead of Monday morning quarterbacking, it’s during the game. It’s Friday and Saturday night quarterbacking. It’s like giving credence to the other side.”

    The rhetoric was a departure from recent days, where Palin has toned down her criticism of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama. Duvall used no such caution in his remarks, saying of Obama, “we gotta keep this guy out of the White House.”

    Duvall then introduced Palin, who quickly thanked him “for that very kind introduction” before giving her standard stump speech to the crowd of 400 Republican donors.

    /blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/actor-duvall-bl.html

  199. HRC says chance she will ever run for prez again is close to zero.

    And then her pants burst into flames. 😉

    and said she was disappointed in women who refuse
    to vote for BO or something to that effect.

    LOL…well, she’s not my Mom, so she can just suck it. 😉

  200. NEVER back down from those who want to take away your freedom…even if it about small things like who your intend to support…put your sign right back up and then hide a video camera and take their picture.

    Report to the police and news agencies or make a blog and post the images but don’t give in to the thugs.

  201. 4,000 SHADY SIGN-UPS BOGUS VOTER BOOTED AMID PROBE OF ACORN

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/news/nationalnews/4_000_shady_sign_ups_133443.htm

    An Ohio man who registered to vote several times cast a bogus ballot with a fake address in a vote-fraud case stemming from ACORN, officials said today, as they revealed nearly 4,000 applications from the left-leaning activist group were suspect.

    Darnell Nash, one of four people subpoenaed in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN’s voter-registration activities, was booted from the voter rolls and his case was turned over to local prosecutors, county Board of Elections officials said today.

    Nash had registered to vote repeatedly from an address that belonged to an actual registered voter, officials said during a hearing involving the four subpoenaed voters.

    Board officials had been in contact with Nash since the summer, and informed him he had to stop repeat registering.

    But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices – the state allows early voting for president – and cast a paper ballot, officials said. It could not be learned if he voted for John McCain or Barack Obama.

    “He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else’s] address, and he cast a ballot,” said board official Jane Platten.

    The issue is being turned over to local prosecutors and the sheriff’s office.

  202. The ‘bots’ are getting desperate because Obama is not performing as well as he should and his corrupted Chicago tactics are getting shone for what they are.

    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY is getting DESPERATE and those in the media who shows their comtempt to the American voters don’t deserve your support…there is a line and when you cross it, don’t support it.

    How Obama run his campaign is how he will run the White House…stamping out all opinion except his own…he is a trojan horse and will bring the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY to their end with these actions.

  203. Sarah Palin Tells Rush Limbaugh: Sorry, MSM, I’m Not Going to Sit Down and Shut Up
    By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
    October 14, 2008 – 14:05 ET

    Rush Limbaugh inteviewed Sarah Palin Tuesday for about 10 minutes in the 1:30 half hour. On the media front, Limbaugh noted that unlike the media, “you are the one that is holding Barack Obama to account.” He said that the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times both praised how Palin is “the most dynamic and forceful” speaker of all four candidates, but they claimed her forcefulness is “driving away moderates. This is an attempt to get you to shut up.”

    Palin replied: “Well, yeah, they do want me to sit down and shut up. But that’s not going to happen. I care too much about this great country.”

    Palin also forcefully called on Obama to rein in ACORN and their “unconscionable” attempts at voter fraud. She said of the media, “There’s too much ignorance, too much ignoring of his associations in the past.” Limbaugh said if it weren’t for the media, Obama “wouldn’t be at 30 percent in the polls.”

    Palin aggressively went after Obama-Biden on taxes, suggesting there’s a choice between a ticket to “create jobs” with tax cuts and restraining government growth, or a ticket that would “kill jobs” with tax hikes. She pressed on Obama to declare at what point, the economy is too weak to withstand his tax hike plans.

    She also said her ticket was pro-growth, pro-life and pro-winning the war with the strongest military in the world, “or we could go in the complete opposite direction.”

    Rush asked if she was thinking about her political future after this race, and she said no, she’s completely focused on November 4.

    newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/14/sarah-palin-tells-rush-limbaugh-sorry-msm-not-going-sit-down-shut

  204. Thousands Cheer McCain Speech in La Crosse

    Posted: Oct 10, 2008 07:26 AM PDT

    Updated: Oct 10, 2008 12:10 PM PDT

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    Thousands of people gathered inside the La Crosse Center this morning, where Republican presidential candidate John McCain held his Road To Victory rally.

    La Crosse was McCain’s third stop in Wisconsin since he started touring the state yesterday.

    Senator McCain touched on many different topics today.

    He talked a lot about his experience, as well as how his visions for the country compare to Senator Barack Obama’s.

    But he opened up his speech acknowledging the recent polls showing that his campaign is trailing with less than a month to go before Election Day.

    McCain got the crowd revved up this morning by talking about the changes he and Sarah Palin will make in Washington, but how they can’t do it without Wisconsin voters.

    “We’ll do the right kind of change and we need the state of Wisconsin in order to win this election,” McCain said.

    McCain, calling his campaign the underdog, said this has been a hard fought election.

    “We’re going to come from behind like we have every time in the past. How many times have the pundants written off the McCain campaign. We’re going to fool them again. We’re going to fool them one more time.”

    McCain touched on many different topics during today’s rally from Health Care to tax relief for the middle class. But, of course, the economy got the most attention, calling the housing crisis the heart of the problem.

    “Under my orders as president, the secretary of the Treasury will carry out a home ownership resurgence plan. The U.S. government will support the refinancing of distressed mortgages for homeowners and replace them with manageable mortgages so people can stay in their homes,” McCain said.

    But by far, McCain spent the majority of the rally drawing comparisons between his campaign and Obama’s camp.

    “On health care, Barack Obama has been misleading on two fronts,” McCain said. “Under the plan he has proposed, he will fine employers who do not offer health insurance and put their employees in government health care. What he doesn’t say, and what nobody has asked, is how big his fine will be. You deserve an answer, and you didn’t get it in Tuesday night’s debate.”

    Obama’s campaign has been running TV ads saying McCain’s health plan would tax health insurance benefits for the very first time.

    McCain also said he wants to suspend the mandatory sale of stocks in retirement funds. The Republican presidential nominee says that would spare investors who have to start selling off their retirement accounts at age 70 and a half. As the economy struggles and Wall Street plunges, the value of these accounts has tanked.

    McCain is stressing the importance of winning Wisconsin and its 10 electoral votes. The state hasn’t voted for a Republican for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984.

    A poll released Wednesday by WISC-TV in Madison showed McCain trailing Obama by 10 points with a month to go before the election. That was McCain’s largest deficit since July when polls also showed the Democratic candidate with a double-digit lead.

    Yesterday, he told about 2,500 supporters at a rally outside an airplane hangar at Central Wisconsin Airport in Mosinee that Wisconsin would be tough for him to carry.

    McCain entered South Hall about 10:03 a.m. to Kenny Loggins’ “Danger Zone” from the movie “Top Gun.” His wife, Cindy, introduced him.

    Warmup speakers include Wisconsin State Assembly Speaker Mike Huebsch, R-West Salem,
    State Senator Dan Kapanke, R-La Crosse, and former Governor Tommy Thompson.

    The crowd includes large numbers of students. Lines to get into the center wrapped around the block. More than 4,000 tickets were given out, but people without tickets were also allowed in.

    The Bangor High School Band played before the rally.

    As McCain is in La Crosse, his campaign is hammering Barack Obama over his association with former 1960s radical William Ayers in a new TV ad. However, McCain did not mention Ayers, something his supporters have been urging him to do.

    The ad says: “When convenient, he worked with terrorist Bill Ayers. When discovered, he lied.”

    The commercial is arguably McCain’s sharpest yet, and it uses Obama’s link to Ayers to assert that Obama has “blind ambition” and “bad judgment.”

    McCain’s campaign says the ad will run nationally.

    The Associated Press and other news organizations have reported that Obama and Ayers are not close but that they worked together on two nonprofit organizations from the mid-1990s to 2002. Ayers also hosted a small meet-the-candidate event for Obama in 1995 as he first ran for the state Senate.

    http://www.wkbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9158348&nav=menu239_8_6

  205. Basil–take this statement with a grain of salt We are 21 days left in this election and big media wants to start the next one. Lets get through this election because who knows what surprises are about to unfold.

  206. Reid campaigns for Obama while McCain bus tours the state

    Posted: Oct 14, 2008 10:39 AM PDT

    Updated: Oct 14, 2008 11:16 AM PDT

    While the U.S. Senate Majority Leader spends time campaigning for the democratic presidential ticket in Reno, a McCain bus tour will make stops around Nevada.

    Obama supporter, Senator Harry Reid will join several Hispanic families in Reno Tuesday, to discuss the Illinois senator’s plan for Latino issues including education, health care, and job creation.

    Reid’s discussion – called “Familias por Obama” – is open to the public and planned to take place at Neil Road Community Center in Miguel Rivera Park, at 4 p.m.

    Meanwhile Republicans will rally for the Sen. John McCain and Sarah Palin ticket in Northern Nevada this week.

    Organizers say a national bus tour will rally Americans to reject the Democratic ticket.

    The “Stop Obama Tour” will be in Carson City on Wednesday, at 3 p.m. in Mills Park – next to the pavilion.

    The tour will also stop in Elko and Ely on Thursday, and Las Vegas on Friday.

    The two presidential candidates are scheduled to debate Wednesday evening beginning at 6 p.m. Stay tuned to KRNV News 4 for live coverage or watch for coverage on http://www.krnv.com

    http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9176217&nav=8faO

  207. I will say over and over and over again,

    We cannot elect BHO, and more importantly we cannot allow Pelosi and Reid to send him a blank check on extermist liberal programs, and pander to the extreme left of the democratic party.

    A congress and the presidency controled by one party is suicide for our country in a time like this.

    Whether you agree or disagree with some of the issues of the republican party platform, I suspect you will find just as many issues with the democrats you disagree with as well.

    Do not give Pelosi and Reid free reign in our country with a BHO administration.

    now for the BHO character…uh…not much of one to talk about.

    —–

    pm317

    on first read one might not know you and wbboei were joking, I’m glad you two were just playing around. It does get intense in here quite often…nice to have a sense of humor show through now and then.

  208. pm317 Says: People he has surrounded himself with have utilitarian value mostly politically as he tried to carve out his future. It is almost like he is thinking how can I use this person to benefit me. Is it a common trait among abused children as they grow into adulthood?
    ================

    I think Obama is a dangaerous neurotic, but i’m not sure he was abused, in the usual sense, as a child. His white family seems to have been very fond of him, indulgent if anything. His Indonesian stepfather advised him to be a bully rather than a victim, but I haven’t seen evidence that teh stepfather actuallly bullied the child.

    The white grandparents who raised him 10-college were pretty screwed with white guilt and were a dysfunctional family, but again it wold be more over-protection and projecting their own political hangups on him (telliing him he and all Blacks were victims). See a n entry at Steve Sailer’s blog linked from ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground

    He probabaly came in for some ridicule as a child in Indonesia (age 4-10) as the onlly Kenyan-looking person there. From age 10+, the grandparents protected him from anything like that by sending him to an expensive private school in Hawaii. Howver he does seem to have played the race card in that school.

  209. Obscene Anti-Palin Shirts Worn by Obama Supporters
    More Misogyny from the Obama Campaign
    By Mark Whittington

    Obama supporters, especially in the media, are trying to spread the narrative that the rhetoric in the Presidential campaign is getting “ugly” or even “dangerous.” One doubts that they are thinking of some particularly vile anti Palin t-shirts showing up on the bodies of Obama supporters.

    The t-shirts say “Palin is a C-T,” one of the seven deadly words that the late George Carlin says cannot be said on TV. But apparently it can show up on the back of an angry Obama supporter.

    Commentator Tammy Bruce, who is both a feminist and a conservative, suggests that this kind of thing reveals an undercurrent of misogyny that has existed in the Obama Campaign since the primary fight with Hillary Clinton. Bruce said, “It transcends gender and race. It transcends class. The truth of the matter is, is that one of the most popular t-shirts when Barack Obama was running in the primary season was a t-shirt that said ‘bros before hos.'”

    Bruce suggests that this sort of thing, such as obscene, sexist t-shirts, will push more former Hillary Clinton supporters, already peeved at the treatment of their woman by the Obama Campaign, over to the McCain-Palin Camp.

    But why is the ugly misogyny coming from Obama supporters? We are told that liberals, by definition, cannot be sexist, racist, or homophobic. Those kinds of bigotry are only reserved for opponents of liberalism. Of course most people who have encountered committed liberals have come to know better. The bigotry often expressed by liberals are of a different style than, say, a Grand Dragon of the KKK. But it does exist. It is sometimes subtle and cloaked in nuance. It is rarely quite as overt as the anti Palin t-shirts.

    Part of the reason is the hyper allegiance Obama supporters have toward their man, which seems to rise to the level of a cult. Anyone who opposes “the One” as many Obama supporters refer to their man is not only to be regarded as mistaken or misled, but evil and even not human.

    Liberals are also very often especially angry at women or minorities, especially African Americans, who choose conservative politics. In their view, no woman and no minority could possibly be a conservative or a Republican. In their mind, it would be like a Jewish person wanting to be a Nazi. Only the Left knows what is best for women and minorities. Therefore the phenomenon of someone like Sarah Palin throws liberals into a frenzy.

    Sarah Palin is not the first female politician to feel this kind of fury. Maggie Thatcher, the former British Prime Minister, was excoriated by her opponents, sometimes in the vilest ways. Thatcher was even accused of “not being a real woman.” The commentator and TV personality Ann Coulter has also had to endure that sort of vilification, once even being attacked at a speaking engagement by a pie wielding assailant.

    Will the media come down on things like the anti Palin t-shirt? Probably not. There is a double standard. Oppose a liberal and you are filled with hate, as the chairman of the Democratic National Committee Howard Dean once suggested. Call a conservative an obscene, sexist name on a t-shirt and one is at worse overzealous and at best exercising ones free speech rights in a creative way.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1110152/obscene_antipalin_shirts_worn_by_obama.html?cat=9

  210. This quote Obama made to this plumber about “spreading the wealth around” is going down like a lead balloon. it really sucks as a campaign message.

  211. carbynew Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 2:41 pm,

    ———————————————————————————-

    That is absolutely disgusting. Obama is bringing out the worst in people. He is gathering the corrupt, the prejudiced, the violent…and on and on…

    It has to stop!

  212. PROMINENT DEMOCRAT CAUGHT IN MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDAL

    Florida congressman and Barack Obama Florida campaign chairman Democrat Robert Wexler has allegedly filed 25 amended FEC reports in the days immediately following Bill O’Reilly busting him in front of his Maryland home on camera.

    Robert Wexler’s opponent Edward Lynch seems to have a compelling argument that there is much more to this story that needs to be revealed. Wexler’s campaign allegedly submitted 25 amended FEC reports between 7/23/08 (one day after O’Reilly busted him) and 7/30/08.

    Here is the report from Wexlers Web:

    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/prominent-democrat-caught-in-money.html

  213. New Mexico Fan said: Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas , it is true – all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!
    This woman is frightening.
    She quotes…’ We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn’t Mar x say something like this), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.’ ( I am not rich, are you)
    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
    ‘We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Amer icans’.’
    =======================

    I remember seeing something like this in some reliable source. But check the date, I remember it being well before the banks started crashing.

  214. The thing is its so unamerican

    “spread the wealth around” begs the question, “why should i pay for someone elses decision not to work”

  215. Looks like Fox has Obama’s campaign rattled about ACORN

    Plouffe on Fox: ’24-hour ACORN channel’ (its worrrrrrking alert!!)

    Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, making the case that the charges against ACORN aren’t relevant, called them a “smokescreen” and a “permission structure” for attempts to disenfranchise voters.

    “This is just the start of what is going to be a very deliberate and cynical attempt to create confusion, to challenge people inappropriately,” he said.

    The amount of time the GOP is spending driving a message about ACORN is, indeed, striking — any day that’s about ACORN isn’t about experience, or Obama’s associations, or McCain’s biography, or the economy. So far, it hasn’t been met by a legal effort to challenge voters on the ground, though that could change.

    Plouffe, in any case, noted the focus on the conservative message machine: “We understand that Fox News Channel is turning themselves into the 24-hour ACORN channel,” he said.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Plouffe_on_Fox_24hour_Acorn_channel.html?showall

  216. PS. Dunno how many people have anything in their retirement accountes now. However the tax on selling your home could be a serious thing. According to my understanding, unless things have chnaged in the last few years — if you buy a house for 100,000, live in it a decade or two, then decide to move to another town, selling your house for 250,000 to buy anhother identical house now priced at 250,000 — you might be taxed on ‘capital gains’ for the 150,000 ‘profit’. When in fact you are just moving to an identical house that has identical value to your old hourse.

    Iirc the current capital tails laws include some exemptions for this kind of situation, but Obama wants to take those away.

  217. Plouffe, in any case, noted the focus on the conservative message machine: “We understand that Fox News Channel is turning themselves into the 24-hour ACORN channel,” he said.

    Oh my god, like I know , right? Exposing all this rampant voter fraud like it’s news. And so negative too…like voter fraud is a BAD thing or something. Fox should die, yo.

  218. I just can’t wait for The One to win so we can create state run tv. Then we won’t have to worry about the haters like Fox.

  219. Turndown, I have been mentioning this for a while now. Taxes on profit on home sale is now exempt up to the first $250K per owner (for a couple, it would be $500K). Obama wants to get rid of that exemption. Think of a senior couple downsizing and wanting to sell their big house and take the profit to FL — he is asking them to pay 28% on the profit. What bugs me about this is that most middle class people will invest in their one primary residence and that is where all their savings will be and now for whatever reason, death, divorce, if they were forced to sell it, they have to pay taxes on profits without exemption — in fact, Bill Clinton mentioned exactly this point about how most people have most of their savings in their homes. This is unconscionable and he is middle class friendly?

  220. ” and behold, another child shall be born in the city of Honolulu Mombassa…and he shall be called The One. And he shall rise up from the black city of the combine, with the aid of the Prophets Rezko and Daley, and together they shall deliver the children of the eagle from their thoughts, and separate thine tongues from thine mouths. ”

    Amen.

  221. JanH

    The plumber looked shocked and it wasn’t an act. Anyone with an “in” with the JM camp needs to have them make this into an add PRONTO

  222. Forget that Idunn, the current Bible will be phased out as ungodly and Obama will put his new Bible out as fact and gospel.

  223. gonzotx Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    JanH

    The plumber looked shocked and it wasn’t an act. Anyone with an “in” with the JM camp needs to have them make this into an add PRONTO
    ====================================

    Yeah it was a look of “you can fuck right off, you lost my vote” The blue collar vote for Obama may be decimated when this gets around, those blue collar can’t stand people getting everything for not working, it really gets up their nose. Obama must have been high or off teleprompter to say it.

  224. No need for Bibles in an Obamacracy. No need for books of any kind. Intellect, along with religion, are dangerous to the state…they must be eradicated, so as not to confuse and frighten the populace.

  225. Idunn Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    I just can’t wait for The One to win so we can create state run tv. Then we won’t have to worry about the haters like Fox.
    ====
    That’s not all they are going to do. Good bye Sean Hannity, goodbye conservative talk radio, goodbye fox news, and goodbye internet. They are going to police the internet. These are real things they will pass if Obama gets elected, or at least try to. They want to regulate the internet. This is scary stuff.

  226. lol, off we go again

    ACORN voter fraud allegation surfaces in Minnesota

    The ACORN voter fraud dispute that has surfaced in many states this election season has now come up in Minnesota.

    The Hennepin County attorney’s office said this afternoon that is investigating an allegation that an individual with the ACORN grass-roots community organization “did not fully comply with Minnesota voter registration rules.”

    County Attorney Mike Freeman will be briefing reporters in more detail later this afternoon.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/30956979.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

  227. .JanH

    The plumber looked shocked and it wasn’t an act. Anyone with an “in” with the JM camp needs to have them make this into an add PRONTO

    ===
    Sarah Palin was on Rush today and they talked about that plumber. I am listening to something else (not sure what) but its mainstream media and they talked about Obama talking to the plumber, played a clip with the plumber asking Obama the question and then they cut off right before Obama gave his answer with the “spread the wealth around” line. So anyone who only listens to MSM won’t have heard the most damaging part. McCain needs to hammer that tomorrow, that says it all.

  228. This Acorn thing is seriously out of hand. Any voter registration done through ACORN needs to be thrown out, disqualified. Then they need to be federally investigated and prosecuted. These people are also complicit with identity fraud. Somebody there needs to serve time for this. And all this tax payer money they get needs to be completely cut off too. I can’t believe we are supporting this group.

  229. pm317 Says: Turndown, I have been mentioning this for a while now. Taxes on profit on home sale is now exempt up to the first $250K per owner (for a couple, it would be $500K). Obama wants to get rid of that exemption. Think of a senior couple downsizing and wanting to sell their big house and take the profit to FL — he is asking them to pay 28% on the profit.
    ===========================

    And iti’s not even real profit! It’s just inflation. To buy a comparable home elsehwere, you now need more money.

    Or, as you bring up, if the homeowners want to downsize and add the difference to their retiremet, that should be allowed without penalty.

    I wonder what AARP is saying about this?

  230. did hillary really say that today???? That she will not be running for president again????

    if she did say this, i can’t help but think that is a major attempt at squashing the reasoning behind hillary supporters who are willing to vote for JM in order to get hillary in 2012 in order to sway them back to the dimocrat fold.

    this just disgusts me, If hillary ran for president again i would still support her because i believe her to be right on the major issues (except for supporting BHO) , i do not support what she is doing for BHO and the Dimocrats and i will not vote for him

    I am PROUDLY VOTING McCain/Palin 08

  231. linl67 said: And all this tax payer money they get needs to be completely cut off too.
    ===================

    I think it is John Boehner(sp?) who is trying to get the federal aid cut off? Sen or Representative?

  232. This Acorn thing is seriously out of hand. Any voter registration done through ACORN needs to be thrown out, disqualified. Then they need to be federally investigated and prosecuted. These people are also complicit with identity fraud. Somebody there needs to serve time for this. And all this tax payer money they get needs to be completely cut off too. I can’t believe we are supporting this group.
    ————————————————————-
    Yes. It should be treated as fruits of the poisonous tree. States should advise all voters registered throuth ACORN that they must re register within 10 days to be eligible to vote. That is what I think–IF we care about democracy.

  233. if she did say this, i can’t help but think that is a major attempt at squashing the reasoning behind hillary supporters who are willing to vote for JM in order to get hillary in 2012 in order to sway them back to the dimocrat fold.
    ===================

    I’m waiting for good evidence that she really did say it. However yes, it is the logical move for her to be forced to say next.

    Still, it migiht just be true: she will be 64, Bill will be due for heart surgery around 2020…. The curent campaign has been very stressful for him. I do think HIllary would put her family’s health ahead of personal ambition.

    I’m reassured that she didn’t say it more strongly; by saying ‘near zero’ she is leaving herself more wiggel room.

  234. turndown: What else could she possibly say at this point in time? I’m sure she wants to keep her Senate seat. Saying she is open for another run, at the current time, is political suicide. We just have to see, how the election turns out, and how the next few years develop.

  235. I wonder if this whole mess hasn’t disillusioned Hillary about her own party and her future. I agree about family and health issues but I think it is more than that.

  236. I am just waiting for someone like Olberman to say ACORN is a republican organization–that is how far in the bag big media is. No they havent said it yet. Yes, it is delusional . But dont think for a moment that will stop Big Media. They will tell any lie and suppress any truth to get bambi in so they can take trips to him to Europe and sing Camelot in Calis while Rome burns. All thats unfit to print is theirs.

  237. turndown,birdgal,Jan

    thanks for sharing other views on hillary “possibly” stating she probably won’t run again.

    I have to say it’s hard for me sometimes to know what to think anymore LOL!

  238. Rush and Hannity are both covering what i posted earlier today………I did email this article to them at the same time i posted it here 😀

    djia Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-exported-rev-wrights-hate-us.html

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008
    Obama Exported Rev. Wright’s Hate the US Ideology To Africa

  239. djia, Hillary is saying that to turn her supporters who may think about waiting for her in 2012 and therefore, not vote for Obama now. Again, the DNC and the Obama campaign are perhaps suggesting to her to make such statements.

  240. HRC is free to do whatever the hell she pleases. If she DOES run again, I’ll vote for her. If she doesn’t…oh well.

    But she is NOT going to coerce me into voting for that corrupt, scumbag Obama. No way, no how!

  241. Bambis proposal on taxes is a major taking from the life savings of most middle class people to support his welfare state/free trade economic model. In every way and at every turn Obama is the sworn enemy of the middle class. Voter suppression in the primaries and voter fraud in the general election covered up by big media could easily produce the electoral sweep big media is predicting and engineering for months. Let us hope that the sweep they are predicting is in favor of McCain. The stakes for our country could scarcely be higher.

  242. Hannity just had a lady (Republican) on who desperately wants McCain to come back to Michigan and start campaigning again.

  243. djia, Hillary is saying that to turn her supporters who may think about waiting for her in 2012 and therefore, not vote for Obama now. Again, the DNC and the Obama campaign are perhaps suggesting to her to make such statements
    —————————————————————
    That is absolutely true. What the bad guys fail to realize is that we see through this charade. This only increases the loathing and contempt we have for bami. What they fail to realize is that we hold him responsible. That is the bottom line and they do not see it.

  244. turndown: What else could she possibly say at this point in time? I’m sure she wants to keep her Senate seat. Saying she is open for another run, at the current time, is political suicide. We just have to see, how the election turns out, and how the next few years develop
    —————————————————————–
    It is so simple if we just take our emotions out of it. The statement is appopriate for now and has no predictive value for the future. By the way I am on the same roller coaster ride as the rest of us, but eventually we get back to tierra firma.

  245. moononpluto Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    lol, off we go again

    ACORN voter fraud allegation surfaces in Minnesota
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Obviously, it is getting to the point where we’ll find out ACORN is working in all 57 states.

    No wonder Obama & Cabal said they have a “plan” to be competitive, even in Republican states.

  246. I made the mistake of visiting a bot site. Wow. THose people are seriously nuts. Did you know the whole ACORN thing is totally blown out of proportion, that it is a republican invention? And absolutely nothing to worry about? huh. I guess I can rest easy now. These people have serious hate issues. I have never seen anything like it.

  247. Idunn Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
    HRC is free to do whatever the hell she pleases. If she DOES run again, I’ll vote for her. If she doesn’t…oh well.

    But she is NOT going to coerce me into voting for that corrupt, scumbag Obama. No way, no how!
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I agree 1,000,000%.

    At this point, the fence-sitters and the Hillary-supporters-lukewarm-enough-to-vote-Obama people here a few months ago have either wandered off or stormed off. Has Univeral been around?

    Anywho, at some point, I suppose this could officially be renamed, “McCain_is44”, although some might find that disrespectful.

    I never disliked McCain, and against Hillary, he would have been the one Repub to pose a real challenge. Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani, they would not be anywhere close against Hillary, nor against Obummah.

    Yeah, I dislike the usual Repub talking points on tax breaks, etc. But I trust John McCain with the keys. I trust him to be a tough but non-bellicose (un-Bush) leader to face down whack job dictators, and to build coalitions with our usual allies. Tough times are not the time for Newbie asking, “Joe, what should I say to Prime Minister ___ about the ___ situation?”.

    Goooooooo, Johnny!

  248. wbboei Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    I am just waiting for someone like Olberman to say ACORN is a republican organization–that is how far in the bag big media is. No they havent said it yet. Yes, it is delusional . But dont think for a moment that will stop Big Media. They will tell any lie and suppress any truth to get bambi in so they can take trips to him to Europe and sing Camelot in Calis while Rome burns. All thats unfit to print is theirs.
    ===
    I don’t think they are going to say it. It looks like they are going to take the Mickey mouse won’t be voting line, people are worried/scared for nothing, and Obama has nothing to do with ACORN, never has. Which is a bold faced lie. They are going to try to dilute it, and say the republicans are crying ACORN to cover up their own voter fraud. That’s what it looks like. Although that will be a tough sale with so many ACORN investigations going on.

  249. Lin67 Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    I made the mistake of visiting a bot site. Wow. THose people are seriously nuts.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    4 out of 5 doctors recommend Bot-Off!!! Disinfects, and has a nice pepperminty smell.

  250. rgb44hrc Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
    Has Univeral been around?

    YES…… perhaps not here so much anymore, but he is posting on NQ all the time, still working against BHO
    and supporting JM

  251. Five Percent of Cleveland ACORN Voter Registrations are Questionable
    Submitted by Julie on October 14, 2008 – 11:01am. Cleveland/Cuyahoga County Elections Elections 2008 Local News News Politics U.S. Politics
    On Monday, investigators in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN’s voter registration activities revealed that nearly 4,000 voter registration applications supplied by the activist group were questionable, and that one Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot using a fake address.

    Darnell Nash, one of the four people subpoenaed in the Cleveland area investigation, had his vote canceled and his case turned over to local prosecutors and law enforcement said Board of Elections officials. At a hearing during which the subpoenaed voters were scheduled to testify, officials said that Nash had repeatedly registered to vote from an address belonging to a legitimately registered voter. Election board officials said they had contacted Nash over the summer, questioned his address, and asked him to stop repeatedly registering.

    Regardless, Nash was able to breeze through Ohio election offices during the early voting period, registered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot.

    Board official Jane Platten said, “He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else’s] address, and he cast a ballot.”

    Officials also said that around 5 percent, or 3,650, of the 73,000 total registration cards turned in by ACORN in the Cleveland area from its Project Vote initiative to sign up low-income voters were questionable. Platten said there were “egregarious acts of registering multiple times. The extend of it is beyond the resources of this board.”

    A spokesman for prosecutor Bill Masson said that Nash’s case and three others were turned over to authorities yesterday. “We will consider presenting it to a grand jury,” said the spokesman.

    Platten insisted that ACORN officials have offered “any and all” help in investigating the questionable activities. Ohio state director of ACORN, Katy Gall, said that her group has fired anyone found soliciting duplicate registrations.

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7298

  252. This is unbelievable. More of Obama’s thugs antics.

    Secret Service visits Lufkin woman after ‘death threat’ allegation from an Obama campaign volunteer

    By JESSICA SAVAGE
    The Lufkin Daily News

    Monday, October 06, 2008

    A Lufkin woman received a surprise visit from the Secret Service last week because of a “death threat” comment she reportedly made about Sen. Barack Obama to a campaign volunteer asking for her support of the presidential candidate.

    Two federal agents arrived at Jessica Hughes’ home Thursday to ask her if she said, “I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.”

    Hughes said her words were deliberately twisted by a volunteer who was apparently unhappy Hughes was rude during a phone conversation the two had. The Lufkin mother, a Republican, said she received a call on her cell phone Wednesday from a woman with the Obama Volunteers of Texarkana.

    “She asked if I was an Obama supporter, to which I replied, ‘No, I don’t support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.’ (And then) I hung up.”

    (Hughes is referring to a “born alive” Illinois bill that did not pass in the Illinois state Senate in 2005 and had previously been opposed by Obama because he said it undermined Roe v. Wade, according to FactCheck.org, a non-partisan organization. A federal version of the bill, which Obama said he would have supported, passed by unanimous consent and was signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2002.)

    Obama Campaign Communications for Texas director Josh Taylor declined to comment Monday, refusing to answer any questions and referring the matter to the Secret Service, which he said is conducting an investigation. A message left with a Secret Service agent in Houston was not immediately returned.

    Hughes said she was surprised to see two Secret Service agents at her door, and upset to learn that the conversation she had with the volunteer apparently had not been recorded.

    “I find it hard to believe that (campaign volunteers) don’t tape these calls. They call people unsolicited and they aren’t monitoring the calls or recording them? I think that is absolutely ridiculous,” she said.

    “I mean, how often must this happen — that someone is rude to a volunteer that they don’t want to talk to?”

    Hughes said she wants to file a countercomplaint against the volunteer.

    “She has made a charge that will follow me the rest of my life,” she said.

    “I find that repugnant and violating — that some person got her undies in a bundle because she didn’t like what I had to say.”

  253. rgb44hrc Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
    ====
    LMAO rgb! I need to try some of that bot-off. You might have a new business idea there. Execpt BO will tax it 60%.

  254. Thanks, djia. I thought he can lots of common sense…

    BTW, are your initials DJ, and you’re from Iowa? Just guessing.

    Mine is straightforward, my inits are rgb, and the rest has to do with this web site.

    Here are some of my other guesses:

    Idunn: I dunno. maybe from Idaho?

    Basil9: Loves to cook?

    carbynew: new low-carb diet?

    wbboei: I pronounce this in my head “woe-be-I”. I have no frikkin’ clue.

    admin: I’m still working on this one. It’s cryptic. Maybe they’re in advertising, in Minnesota?

  255. I don’t think they are going to say it. It looks like they are going to take the Mickey mouse won’t be voting line, people are worried/scared for nothing, and Obama has nothing to do with ACORN, never has. Which is a bold faced lie. They are going to try to dilute it, and say the republicans are crying ACORN to cover up their own voter fraud. That’s what it looks like. Although that will be a tough sale with so many ACORN investigations going on.
    —————————————-
    Correct.

  256. RGB

    yes my initials are DJ many here know my name is Deborah , and that’s ok as i have really big dogs and a couple of gaurd goats with big horns not to mention i am a pretty good shot so 😉 if any bots want to come visit me i dare you to get on my porch 😀

    i was living in iowa when i signed up for this forum, now i am in South Dakota

    but have live all but the lasts 3 years of my 45 yr life in MN …….. and still trying to move to colorado……but hubby’s career moves are not cooperating well LOL

  257. for a long time I read djia as didja as in didja ever?!
    and Idunn as “I dun” it!

    btw, Idunn how was the phone banking?
    I hate it, too, but I really think the best thing we can do is get McCain in there — I think that’s the best thing for HRC’s future. THe current dimwit party will never be good to her, but JM will.

  258. 4 out of 5 doctors recommend Bot-Off!!! Disinfects, and has a nice pepperminty smell.

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! too funny!! sure wish there was such a product

    I am about to try a old fashioned garlic necklace i hear its not just for vampires anymore 😀

  259. What do you think about voting straight Republican — from POTUS all the way down to dog-catcher — as many election cycles as it takes to clean out the crap in the dimwit party? … a few exceptions where there is certainty that the candidate is cleanly vetted.

  260. I had one of those darn it moments after i signed up with djia as i often get deja vu and thought HEY! i should have used that!

  261. lil ole grape

    I am planning on doing just that, unless someone here knows of a “good dem” in south dakota i should consider
    being new here i am not aware of who’s who here.

  262. With all this ACORN fraud coming out, don’t think they are not tinkering with the no paper trail electronic voting machines. You bet, they are (chalk it up to a gut feeling). I don’t know what the remedy is. Obama and the Dems have become worse than Repubs in their worst form.

  263. Idunn: I dunno. maybe from Idaho?

    No and no. “Idunn” is a goddess from Norse mythology (proounced EE-dun or EE-dune), and this Idunn is from TN. 😉

  264. Grape…I never got to ohone banking last night. Hubby was late getting home from work, so dinner was late. Then clean up and I was ready for bed. 🙁

  265. McCain says Ayers to come up at debate

    WASHINGTON, Oct. 14 — Republican presidential hopeful John McCain said Tuesday that Democrat Brack Obama’s association with a 1960s radical will come up in their debate Wednesday.

    Politico reports McCain said Obama is “probably ensured” that his association with former Weather Underground leader William Ayers will come up when they meet in New York for their third and final presidential debate.

    “I was astonished to hear him say that he was surprised that I didn’t have the guts” to bring up Ayers, McCain said on St. Louis radio station KMOX.

    After their debate last week, Obama said he was surprised that McCain did not levy the same attacks at their debate that his campaign says on the campaign trail.

    “I am surprised that, you know, we’ve been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn’t willing to say it to my face,” Obama said. “But I guess we’ve got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

    McCain has said while he does not care about Ayers, whom he called the “old washed-up terrorist” he has said Obama is not “being truthful” about the relationship.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/14/McCain_says_Ayers_to_come_up_at_debate/UPI-52951224019653/

  266. How this for a headline

    In Lake County, IN, ALL ACORN registlations fraudulent

    corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDViYWFjYmFiNzY3YmM0ZTE5Yjg5YTQ1NDk2ODEwZTE=

    In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations. The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent. The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter.

  267. BO is now in 8th grade literature textbooks. 15 pages! Not a word about HRC, BC, McCain.
    Here’s the link and an excerpt.
    (GAWD but i am SOOOOOOO glad I’m no longer in the public school system)Comment by tzada | 2008-10-14 14:18:59

    This is what they are being taught in one school. At least one and maybe more.

    School textbook promotes Obama
    Angry mother of 8th-grader exposes
    publication lauding ‘change’ theme

    The mother of an 8th-grader in Wisconsin is blasting school officials over their use of a textbook lauding Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s “change” theme and highlighting his 2004 Democratic National Convention as an example of good literature.

    The mother, whose name was withheld because of concern over retaliation, said on the RealDebateWisconsin blog her son is taking an advanced English class in the Racine, Wis., Unified School District.
    “I just found out that my son’s new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin – McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama,” she writes. “I was shocked – No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush – Just Barack Obama.”

    The mother says it “would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his ‘Life of Service.’”
    “Honestly,” she writes, “what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background!”
    The school district said it has launched an investigation.
    “I will tell you we are working on some information we just got. Until today we didn’t know that information,” said Stephanie Hayden, a district spokeswoman.
    She told WND the book “probably is one of the most popular textbooks” in the country, so her district would not be the only one using it.
    “The director of curriculum and instruction is reviewing it right now,” she said.
    Staff at McDougal Littell referred a WND call to the corporate headquarters for owner Harcourt Mifflin Co., and officials there did not respond to a request for a comment.
    The mother says she did some research on McDougal Littell and found chairman and CEO Alfred L. McDougal of Chicago has made contributions to Obama’s campaign
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77957

  268. N.C. election officials investigate voter forms

    http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/3733722/

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now works to register low-income people as voters. ACORN claims to have registered 1.3 million people nationwide since 2007, including nearly 28,000 in North Carolina.

    The group pays its field workers by the hour to sign up new voters, and some forms may have used fake or duplicated information, state officials said.

    “They were lazy in that they did not go out an actually ask people to register to vote. They simply made up names and made up addresses,” said Johnnie McLean, a member of the elections board.

    Ahuh enough said.

  269. rgb,

    hehehehe.
    I cook great coffee and microwave stuff. 😉

    I think of woe-is-me for wbboei.

    lin,
    i saw that article about the SS checking up on that woman . Scary stuff.

  270. THIS IS JUST SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Video games feature ads for Obama’s campaign

    By DEVLIN BARRETT – 2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Too busy playing video games to watch presidential ads on television? Barack Obama has found you, too, by becoming the first presidential candidate to buy ad space inside a game.

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jvjv52elpZjLFePTcOXw_7YQ6pvAD93QF82G0

  271. Gamespot the company that handles in-game adds for the PS3 gave the opportunity for a counter offensive to Obama’s competitor John McCain, but his campaing declined.

    GOOD FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!!

  272. I think the appropriate marketing tool for Obama would be a Porn Studio Talking Dildo.

    It could scream Hallelujah everytime orgasm was reached and then say, this is the one you been waiting for.

  273. Internal Obama Poll Reports He Is Up By 2 In Pennsylvania

    Steve Corbett, a radio talk show host in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, accidentally received a copy of an internal email sent by Grant Olin (sp?) who heads the Wilkes-Barre headquarters of the Obama campaign. The email went to 627 Obama campaign volunteers in the Wilkes-Barre Scranton region, saying that Obama Headquarters reported an internal poll which shows that Obama is only 2 points up in Pennsylvania.

    Sean Smith, who is heading Obama’s Pennsylvania campaign, was interviewed by Steve Corbett via phone at 5:35 today to discuss this. He said that Grant “went rogue”, and aknowledged that Grant was “reprimanded” for this. Sean would not deny that the internal poll showed this, and his words were carefully chosen.

  274. Palin is a one woman show who is doing the work of the media…

    news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081014/pl_politico/14568

  275. Palin knocks Obama with ACORN Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:34 PM by Carrie Dann
    From NBC/NJ’s Matthew Berger and Carrie Dann

    SCRANTON, Pa. – Sarah Palin says the Democratic presidential candidate is partially responsible for voter registration fraud by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

    “Obama has a responsibility to rein in ACORN,” Palin told conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh Tuesday.

    Calling the charges “unconscionable,” Palin said the McCain campaign has reached out to its Democratic counterpart to cooperate on clamping down on voter fraud, but has received no response. (The Obama campaign said today that it did indeed respond to the month-old request from McCain’s ” Honest and Open Election Committee” — by issuing a counter-challenge to Republicans to dismantle attempts at voter suppression in battleground states.)

    Palin called into Limbaugh’s show before attending a rally at the Riverfront Sports Complex. There, she lumped voter fraud into a long list of concerns on Americans’ minds.

    “Anger about the unconscionable voter fraud going on in this state and elsewhere,” she said to a chorus of boos. “Pennsylvania, with serious reforms to change Washington and Wall Street, John McCain is going to turn that anger into action.”

    In the radio interview, Palin acknowledged she has been attacking Obama more on the campaign trail in recent days.

    “I’ve got nothing to lose in this and I think America has everything to gain by understanding the differences, the contrasts here between Obama and McCain,” she said. Acknowledging that she is a “simple talker,” Palin said she is focused on highlighting the differences.

    At the rally, Palin was joined by country music legend Lee Greenwood, who sang the national anthem and “God Bless the U.S.A.”

    It was the second day in a row that Palin was joined by a country music legend. Hank Williams Jr. debuted a revised version of “Family Tradition” Monday, complete with lyrics citing the “left wing liberal media” and that “Democrats bankrupted Fannie Mae n’ Freddie Mac.”

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/14/1544008.aspx

  276. Sarah Palin: A Sure Thing on DWTS?
    Today 1:53 PM PDT by Peter Gicas

    Here’s a thought. Who needs elections when it could all be settled on the dance floor?

    Yeah, we know, it’s a little silly, but hey, after 18 months of relentless campaign coverage, what’s wrong with having some fun at the candidates’ expense?

    So we decided to ask Dancing With the Stars’ Karina Smirnoff who she thought would win in a ballroom battle: Barack Obama or Sarah Palin?

    “Sarah. Gotta give it to Sarah,” says the dancer.

    Who do you think would be victorious? And by all means, feel free to mix up the match-ups because, while we can certainly envision Joe Biden and John McCain going head to head with dueling sambas, it’s really hard for us to pick a winner.
    video attached.

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b63710_sarah_palin_sure_thing_on_dwts.html

  277. Todd Palin to visit Duluth outdoors store
    By Associated Press
    Tuesday, October 14, 2008

    DULUTH, Minn. – Todd Palin’s first stop on a quick northern Minnesota tour will be at an outdoors store in Duluth.

    Palin, husband of John McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin, is to appear at a rally Thursday afternoon at a Gander Mountain store. From there, he has scheduled appearances in Grand Rapids and Bemidji.

    And on Friday, he’s due to tour the Arctic Cat snowmobile factory.

    The visits are coordinated by the McCain campaign and by motorized recreation enthusiasts. Republicans are hoping Palin’s visit can drum up support by appealing to voters on gun rights and outdoors issues in an area that has been reliably Democratic.

    news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1125536&format=text

  278. Jesse Jackson: Obama will end Zionist rule in America.

    I think its pretty clear we are getting muslim sympathizers if that POS gets elected.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/jesse-jackson-obama-will-end-zionist-rule-in-america/

    Jesse Jackson may have wanted to remove a part of Obama’s anatomy recently when he chided African American fathers to be more responsible. And even before that he accused Obama of “acting like he’s white”, but he’s still on the kool-aid train as far as his support for The One. He apologized for his off the cuff remark and restated his unwavering support of Barack. And the Obama team, including Jackson’s son, Jesse Jackson Jr. (co-chair of his presidential campaign), accepted their friend’s apology

    An Obama campaign spokesman, Bill Burton, said that the senator from Illinois “of course accepts Rev. Jackson’s apology.” …

    At Wednesday evening’s news conference in Chicago, Jackson said: “I have supported Barack’s campaign with passion from the very beginning.”

    Jackson, whose Rainbow/PUSH Coalition is based in Chicago, has publicly endorsed Obama, most recently in a piece published Tuesday in the Chicago Sun-Times, and said he enjoys a close relationship with the Obama family.

    So I wonder what Obama and his campaign think about Jackson’s latest description of what American foreign policy might look like under a President Obama. And more interestingly, I wonder what Jewish Americans will make of it. Here is what The Rev. Jackson had to say at a World Policy Forum in France:

    The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.

    Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    “Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.” (emphasis mine)

  279. It could scream Hallelujah everytime orgasm was reached and then say, this is the one you been waiting for.

    Better yet, they could market it as the “You’re the one you’ve been waiting for” dildo. LOL!

  280. 317 is the house I grew up in for 23+ years. It was also the house I was born in. I was the 8th child (but 2 died in their infancy) and my mom was a pro, she didn’t even bother to go to the hospital. 🙂 Coincidentally, the mile marker for the exit to our house now which I take everyday is 317. I think of my dad when I see that number anywhere.

  281. Sarah Palin to rock Granite State

    By Edward Mason
    Tuesday, October 14, 2008

    As Barack Obama maintains his lead in the polls over John McCain, Sarah Palin is traveling to New Hampshire tomorrow to energize GOP voters crucial to the campaign’s chances in this important battleground state.

    Palin starts the day with a 9 a.m. “victory rally” at the Dover High School gymnasium, followed by a trip to meet supporters at Weirs Beach in Laconia. Palin will finish the day with a rally at the Salem High School football field accompanied by her husband Todd, who spent the weekend campaigning in Maine.

    Large crowds are expected to scoop up limited tickets for Palin’s first trip to New Hampshire, said GOP chairman Fergus Cullen.

    “There’s huge, pent-up enthusiasm and interest in seeing her,” Cullen said. “It’s not on par with a U2 concert, but it comes close.”

    Palin heads to New Hampshire following a massive rally at a Richmond, Va., speedway, where she questioned Obama’s patriotism before some 20,000 supporters.

    “Just once I’d like to hear Barack Obama say he’d like America to win,” Palin told the crowd.

    Cullen predicted Palin will do more than offer Republicans red meat.

    “It’s a rally, so it’ll be aimed at energizing the base,” Cullen said, “but also to ask people to give the McCain-Palin ticket a second look.”

    The Republican rock star’s visit comes at a critical time in the campaign. Last week, Obama for the first time topped 50 percent in a statewide poll, leading McCain 53 to 45 percent according to a CNN/Time poll. However, the most recent polls have shown McCain gaining, with yesterday’s Zogby poll declaring a statistical dead heat.

    Palin also hopes to lift McCain’s fortunes in a state many believe is up for grabs, despite having been won by Democrats in three of the past four presidential elections.

    “She’s coming thinking this state is in play,” Andy Smith, director of the University of New Hampshire Survey Center. “They really need to win in New Hampshire.”

    Indeed, McCain aides say it’s no accident he has traveled to New Hampshire four times since March, lavishing attention on the state with its coveted four electoral votes.

    “We all know New Hampshire is critically important, and every electoral vote counts,” said Jeff Grappone, McCain New England spokesman. “We’re competing hard to win the Granite State.”

    Obama returns to New Hampshire Thursday, with a community gathering set for Mack’s Apples in Londonderry. His veep pick, Joe Biden, visited an American Legion post in Rochester, N.H., yesterday morning, and later traveled to Manchester.

    news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view.bg?articleid=1125432&format=text

  282. Better Yer IDUNN, a dildo in the shape of Obama, then it truly would be the biggest dick shaped dildo ever.

  283. I personally think that there should be a petition out there demanding that the Democratic Party give up it’s name.

  284. Buy an Obama Dildo and elect Obama and you can be screwed many times both in your social life and in your wallet.

  285. Todd Palin’s grassroots campaign

    By Christine McConville
    Sunday, October 12, 2008

    FREMONT, N.H. – The swirl of controversy around Alaskan First Dude Todd Palin vanished in a puff of snowmobile exhaust yesterday as the vice presidential candidate’s husband was greeted as a hero at a festival in a cow pasture here yesterday morning.

    “I’ve been a fan for a long time,” said Erik Frigon, 35, of South Portland, Maine, at the New Hampshire Snowmobile Association’s annual Grass Drags and Water Crossing event. Like most attendees, he “talked sleds,” not politics with Palin, a champion snowmobiler who has won Alaska’s 2,000-mile Tesoro Iron Dog race four times.

    Palin appeared under a bright sun and surrounded by tens of thousands of snowmobile enthusiasts just a few hours after the Alaska Legislature reported that Gov. Sarah Palin violated state ethics laws when she tried to have her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper, removed from the force. Todd Palin led the charge against the trooper, the state investigators found.

    The McCain campaign said the report is politically motivated and that Todd Palin would not answer questions from the media yesterday.

    Palin kicked off the races with brief remarks from the announcer’s booth, the New Hampshire Union Leader reported.

    “One thing is for sure,” Palin said. “Voters across America from here in New Hampshire all the way to Alaska are looking for change in how business is done in Washington, and I can say I can’t blame them.”

    Todd Palin, an oil worker and fisherman, has brought a touch of blue-collar glamour to the GOP campaign trail, where he is a popular figure. Tom Thomson, a member of McCain’s state leadership team, told The Associated Press he urged the campaign to bring Palin to Fremont.

    >b>“It’s a great honor for New Hampshire’s snowmobiling community,” said Thomson. “People respond to him. They love his wife, too.”

    Wearing Levi’s jeans and a plaid shirt and accompanied by New Hampshire Sen. John E. Sununu, Palin stayed at the Brookvale Pines Farm festival for about two hours, watching snowmobilers race across grass and water and signing autographs.

    “I’ve always admired him,” said Robert G. Davis, 55, a champion snowmobiler from Eagle Lake, Maine. “He has four world records and he’s an excellent long-distance rider.”

    After the Fremont event, Palin headed to Maine, where he attended a rally in Palmyra. He is expected to attend another rally today in Presque Isle.

    news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view.bg?articleid=1125021&format=text

  286. Buy an Obama Dildo and elect Obama and you can be screwed many times both in your social life and in your wallet.

    That made me spit coffee.

  287. Todd Palin led the charge against the trooper, the state investigators found.

    Just makes me like the guy more. 🙂

  288. embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/14/palin-disses-biden-in-his-hometown/

    October 14th, 2008 4:28 PM Eastern
    Palin Disses Biden in his Hometown
    by Shushannah Walshe

    SCRANTON, PA– The GOP Vice-Presidential nominee came to her rival, Joe Biden’s hometown today and went after the native son for not supporting clean coal and off-shore drilling. Throughout her criticism of the Democratic Vice-Presidential nominee, a Palin supporter shouted, “Go Home Joe!” This is not a new attack, but it is the first time she has gone after him in the town he grew up in.

  289. Anyway…if Obama is planning on spreading my “wealth” around the the poor huddled masses, he better be real good at getting blood out of a rock. Otherwise, he’s gonna come up empty handed, I’m afraid.

  290. moononpluto,

    Take a break, go relax and read a book. De-stress yourself and then you can comeback here with fresh eyes.

    That’s why I’m posting regular joe stuff and not that MSM bullsh*t that is flooding all over the internet.

    I do not believe Obama is winning…Even with all this help he is still not running away with this race, in a sure Democratic election. BO is just not that likeable or trustworthy. Parents don’t like all that crap the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY is doing to their kids….that textbook trick is outrageous and a sure sign that taxpayer’s money was used illegally.

  291. Throughout her criticism of the Democratic Vice-Presidential nominee, a Palin supporter shouted, “Go Home Joe!”

    OMG, this is OUTRAGEOUS! She’s going to get Joe killed!! 😉

  292. Move on knows the polls are crap, look at their latest email.

    Dear MoveOn member,

    Obama’s now ahead in most polls. That’s great, but there’s just one problem: the polls could be wrong.

    This is an unprecedented election. No one knows how racism may affect what voters tell pollsters—or what they’ll do in the privacy of the voting booth. And there are plenty of other unknowns.

    We can’t afford to take any chances with the most important election of our lifetimes. Whatever the polls say, we all need to get out, talk to voters, and make sure every single Obama supporter makes it to the polls.

    The Obama campaign in Denver needs more volunteers this week for a big voter-outreach effort. So MoveOn members are going to get meet up on Saturday and go volunteer together!

    It’ll be fun, and by going in as a group, we can help show that Barack’s campaign is being powered by progressives.

    Hope to see you there! Thanks for all you do.

    –Adam, Tanya, Lenore, Michael and the rest of the team

    Aha, so now is the time they know the internals show them down really and they know it.

  293. Carby, I am not stressed, i’m having fun now, theres nothing more i can from here but heckle and distribute information.

    So I’m going to enjoy it, what I’m waiting for is election night, McCain wins so we all go over to DU and Kos and tell them to go F themselves for what they did.

  294. Hi everyone…

    I need to take the advice of those here….relax and get away from this stuff….

    dontcha just LOVE this line from JJ Sr.? “”Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says. “Thanks to his background and ecumenical approach, he knows how Muslims feel while remaining committed to his own faith.”

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm?page=2

    between this, and the book mess, and the CAC and all the other stuff, I believe we have been infiltrated by AMERICANS, intent on destroying everything we ever believed in.

  295. NH: McCain campaign announces N.H. Snowmobilers for John McCain and Sarah Palin
    Press release

    MANCHESTER — The McCain-Palin campaign announced today the leadership of New Hampshire Snowmobilers for John McCain and Sarah Palin, a statewide grassroots organization that will work to bolster support among Granite State snowmobilers. The leadership includes members from all 10 counties who will work to spread the word about the McCain-Palin ticket’s commitment to being a strong voice for issues important to the snowmobiling community.

    “The most important issue for snowmobilers is maintaining our access to public lands, and on this issue John McCain and Sarah Palin best understand our needs,” said Tom Thomson, State Chair of New Hampshire Snowmobilers for John McCain and Sarah Palin. “John McCain has a long, proven record of promoting multiple use on public lands, and Governor Palin, married to a world champion snowmobiler, has a better sense of these issues than any other candidate.”

    The McCain-Palin campaign announced the organization’s leadership following Todd Palin’s visit to the New Hampshire Grass Drags and Water Cross in Fremont. A world champion snowmobiler, Mr. Palin opened the weekend event by starting the first race.

    “McCain and Palin understand these issues better than the other candidates,” Thomson said. “If they are elected, we will have snowmobiling advocates in Washington, D.C.”

    http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081013-NEWS-81013025

  296. “Thanks to his background ”

    huh?

    and what background is that Jesse?

    Harvard?

    Columbia?

    The Illinois Senate?

    The United States Senate?

  297. McCain may rue attacks ‘rest of his life’

    Sen. Joe Biden said Monday that the tenor of the presidential campaign has gone “over the edge” and that if John McCain continues to push some lines of attack against Barack Obama he may regret it “for the rest of his life.”

    Talking about recent charges leveled against Obama on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” Biden said, “I just think it’s unhealthy, you don’t throw race [and] terrorism” into the presidential campaign. “That’s a combustible mix in an environment where people are angry.”

    “It’s not a useful time to be running an ad that says the guy consorts with terrorists,” Biden said.
    The Democratic senator added that if McCain attacks Obama’s associations with 1960’s radical William Ayers or Rev. Jeremiah Wright during Wednesday’s debate he “will regret for the rest of his life having an incredible career getting cast aside.”

    But Biden expressed optimism that McCain will chose to back off those attacks, pointing to an event Friday when McCain corrected a supporter who called the Illinois Democrat “an Arab.”

    “That was the old John McCain,” Biden said.

    During an interview taped for ABC’s “Nightline,” Biden said that McCain “seems to have figured it out. He looks like he’s trying to tamp it down.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14541.html

  298. The “Bradley Effect” strikes me as B.S. cover for B.S. polls. They know exactly what they are doing, I just saw another new poll over at PPP for NC showing Obama ahead by 3, except they neglect to mention the sample is again 49% Dem, 35% rep and 16% indie.

    I laughed when i saw that sample.

  299. well… time to go get ready for work again 🙁

    everyone have a good night!!!

    and i will see you late night owls when i return 😀

  300. I made the mistake of visiting a bot site. Wow. THose people are seriously nuts. Did you know the whole ACORN thing is totally blown out of proportion, that it is a republican invention? And absolutely nothing to worry about? huh. I guess I can rest easy now. These people have serious hate issues. I have never seen anything like it.
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    Puberty can be rough.

  301. I fact those oversample Dems polls actually hurt the Democratic? Taliban Party because new dem voters won’t go in vote if they think Obama doesn’t really need their votes….while Republicans are trained not to believe the polls and GOTV out for their side.

    If George W. Bush wasn’t such an lame duck president he might have been diamond instead of the rock around the GOP neck. This is one time in my lifelong Democratic self I want a Republican ticket to win.

  302. 1. basil9 Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
    HRC says chance she will ever run for prez again is close to zero.

    i also heard she stumped hard for BO this morning and said she was disappointed in women who refuse
    to vote for BO or something to that effect.
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    Are you guys still giving Hillary a pass for her statements and increasing support of Obama? sI’m definitely not!! She has seriously thrown us under the bus. Frankly I don’t think that she should run for president in 2012, nor did I really think that she would run in 2012. The fight left out of her when she decided to “suspend” her campaign so quickly.

    djia Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
    I expect “they” will attribute the hillary dems voting for mccain as a result of the “bradley affect”

    LOL!!!! “They” probably will attribute the hillary dems voters as a result of the “Bradley effect”. Won’t bother me a bit!!

  303. Great news about the idiot from the Gutter Ball campaign inadvertently emailing their internal numbers to that DJ!! And Bambi is only ahead by 2 (TWO) points in PA! HA! This is a state in which he has invested more money than any other candidate in the history of our nation.

    HillBuzz was right (as usual): McCain is ahead or tied in PA. Those darn bitter, clingy, white voters. This is the reason Palin and McCain have been in PA non-stop.

  304. SurveyUSA is a joke!! How disappointing that the polling outfit we have grown to trust the most has drunk the Kool-Aid. They have Obama +5 in Ohio this morning, but guess what? McCain’s ahead. Here’s why:

    They polled 33% Repubs, 46% Dems, and 20% Indies…BUT the actual voter registration in the state is:

    37% Repub, 40% Dem, and 23% Indies. SURPRISE! They undersampled Repubs by 4% and oversampled Dems by 6% and Gutter IS STILL ONLY AHEAD BY 5.

    McCain is leading rather strongly in OH.

  305. I still love Hillary Clinton but she is irrelevant to me…she kept her campaign promise to fight for the ticket and support the Democratic Party…as an active Senator she had to. I don’t fault her but since we are on the other side in this fight I wish her well and I’ll continue to vote my conscience.

    Since I don’t have anything else positive to say…..I’ll say nothing more.

  306. wbboei: I pronounce this in my head “woe-be-I”. I have no frikkin’ clue
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    its is an acronym for “woe betide me and the rest of us if the thug from chicago steals the general election” or wbboei for short.

  307. *Like I said before, Elites supports Elites.*

    Buckley leaves National Review after Obama endorsement
    Posted: 06:56 PM ET

    Buckley has resigned his post from the National Review.

    (CNN) — Christopher Buckley, the son of conservative icon William F. Buckley, said Tuesday he’s resigned from the conservative National Review days after endorsing Barack Obama’s White House bid, among the most powerful symbols yet of the conservative discontent expressed this election cycle.

    In an online column, Buckley said he had decided to offer his resignation from the magazine his father founded after hundreds of readers and some National Review colleagues expressed outrage he was backing the Illinois senator.

    “While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for,” Buckley wrote.

    “Eight years of ‘conservative’ government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a truly obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case,” he also wrote.

    The resignation comes four days after Buckley formally endorsed Obama on the Web site The Daily Beast, writing the presidential campaign had made John McCain “inauthentic,” and Obama appeared to have a “first-class temperament and first-class intellect.”

    In a statement posted on the publication’s Web site Tuesday, National Review editor Rich Lowry noted Buckley was writing for the magazine on a trial basis, and took his offer to resign with the “warmest regards and understanding” sincerely. Lowry also took issue with Buckley’s contention the magazine had been flooded with angry mail over Buckley’s endorsement, saying it had received a relatively small 100 e-mails expressing disapproval.

    “It’s an intense election season and emotions are running high,” Lowry said.

    Matt Lewis, a contributing writer to the conservative Web site Townhall.com, told CNN the National Review made the right decision in quickly accepting Buckley’s resignation.

    “While it is acceptable for a conservative to vote for a third party – or to abstain from voting for McCain – no real conservative could cast their vote for Obama,” he said. “The conservative movement didn’t leave him, he left it.”

    But in his column Tuesday, Buckley expressed disappointment the magazine, and conservatives in general, were not more open to dissenting opinions that his own father once championed.

    My father in his day endorsed a number of liberal Democrats for high office, including Allard K. Lowenstein and Joe Lieberman,” he said, adding later, “My point, simply, is that William F. Buckley held to rigorous standards, and if those were met by members of the other side rather than by his own camp, he said as much.”

    Buckley is only the latest among several prominent conservative to express dissatisfaction with McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin. David Brooks, Kathleen Parker, David Frum, Peggy Noonan, and George Will, all high-profile conservative thinkers, have each openly criticized the ticket over the last month.

    “Sadly, I think Christopher Buckley is merely the latest example of the “conservative” avant-garde who has succumbed to a common temptation: Becoming more liberal is tantamount to becoming more open-minded. There is a palpable elitism among some of the conservative panjandrum,” Lewis said.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/14/buckley-leaves-national-review-after-obama-endorsement/
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    What I find so interesting about the Republican Party is that these same Elites did not start this original grassroot third party organization…it was the Sarah & Todd Palins of this country and those like Brinkley were Democrats like Sen. Stephen A. Douglas in 1860.

  308. Palin Talks About Trig, Vows to Help Special-Needs Children
    Elizabeth Holmes reports from Scranton, Pa., on the presidential race.

    Shortly after Sarah Palin was named John McCain’s running mate, the world learned of the choice she made to keep her infant son with Down syndrome. The governor of Alaska and her husband, Todd, received the diagnosis midway through Palin’s pregnancy and chose not to abort the baby.

    As a result, Palin has become a hero of the special-needs community. Some of her most poignant stump moments—a sharp contrast with her regular mudslinging at the Democrats—occur when she talks about her son, Trig, now six months old. He is a staple on the campaign trail, often seen in the arms of his father.

    Palin talked at length about her son at a rally in Scranton Tuesday. “When I learned that my son, Trig, would have special needs, I had to prepare my heart for the challenges to come and at first, I was scared and Todd and I we had to ask for strength and understanding,” she said.

    Her remarks resonated in this heavily Catholic area. The crowd of thousands applauded enthusiastically, and never more so than when she tapped into social conservative sentiments.

    Palin outlined what she says she’s learned from Trig. “Everyone belongs in the circle of protection. And that every child has something to contribute to the world if we give them that chance,” she said to cheers from the audience. “And there are the world’s standards of perfection, and then there are God’s and these are the final measure. Every child is beautiful before God and dear to him for their own sake.”

    Palin vowed to increase funding for students with special needs—and acknowledged the need for more in her home state of Alaska. She has been criticized for her budget cuts as governor, especially in the area of special education. The charges, however, were found false by Education Week.

    Regardless, that will change should she reach the White House. “As vice president, I’m going to make sure that these families have a friend and an advocate in the White House,” she said.

    blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/14/palin-talks-about-trig-vows-to-help-special-needs-children/?mod=googlenews_wsj

  309. WTF is Biden talking about?? McCain introduced race into this campaign?? Where did THAT happen? I must have missed it.

    But at any rate, I find this really rich coming from “you can’t throw a stone in a conveninece store without hitting an Indian” Biden.

  310. Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    “Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.” (emphasis mine)
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    These people are inhaling their own fumes. By the time this guy is vetted the American People will want no part of him. If that happens before the election the country can recover. If it happens afterwards the task of governace will be well nigh impossible. There is no happy scenario that can possibly come out of this for him.

    Whether it is Lewis and Clarke at the headwaters of the Myrias River in Montana, Red Mike Edson turning the tide of Japanes imperialism at Guadalcanal or this megalamanical fool thinking he can lead a country of 300 million people many of whom do not trust him for reasons which have nothing whatsoever to do with his race the answer is always the same.

    Anyone who presumes to lead people must have a mandate and that mandate depends not on the consensus of big media elites but the consent and trust of the governed. In Obamas case it is like the old Starkist tuna commercial: sorry charlie–you are not the one.

  311. Carby: Elitism runs rampant on both sides of the political divide. How a conservative can vote for Obama amazes me. Talk about voting against one’s self interest. People accuse the PUMAs for voting against their interests, well, conservatives are doing it too. The big difference, is that McCain has some integrity, whereas, BZero has none.

  312. I was just in Costco. There was a children’s book on O. I had to turn it backwards.

    Do you believe that? There is a sickness here that is very scarey.

  313. Education Week

    blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/14/palin-talks-about-trig-vows-to-help-special-needs-children/?mod=googlenews_wsj

    Debunk the Palin cutback Special Needs education rumor.

  314. NMF, they are so good at copying other people — Meghan McCain wrote a children’s book about her dad and I am guessing that is what Obama people have done as well.

  315. Idunn Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    WTF is Biden talking about?? McCain introduced race into this campaign?? Where did THAT happen? I must have missed it.
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    Yep, he threw in race with terrorism for good measure. He and Obama lie so easily.

  316. “Sadly, I think Christopher Buckley is merely the latest example of the “conservative” avant-garde who has succumbed to a common temptation: Becoming more liberal is tantamount to becoming more open-minded. There is a palpable elitism among some of the conservative panjandrum,” Lewis said
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    Chris lived in his fathers shadow but his intellect is modest at best. He is however a member of the Long Island Sound Yachtmens crowd. This decision is about what I would have expected from someone with his unearned social status. I am glad to see this was handled discretion although he did apparently leave some bathroom tissue on his shoe. Bad form but stiff upper lip.

  317. pm317 Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
    wbboei, I have photographic memory, so I just remember it as wbboei
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    thank god I dont have a photographic memory. I have a hard enough time sleeping.

  318. That Buckley, he lists everything wrong with Bush and laments how the conservative movement is dead and then turns around to vote for Obama who is talking about increasing spending, new programs, tax hikes, and even wealth redistribution..

  319. NewMexicoFan Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    I was just in Costco. There was a children’s book on O. I had to turn it backwards.
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    saving our democracy

  320. wbboei: “I am glad to see this was handled discretion although he did apparently leave some bathroom tissue on his shoe. Bad form but stiff upper lip.”

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    ROFL!!

  321. Goodness! In one day, there is so much to read here.

    Whoever joked about the Obama signs actually has a great idea. Put ‘free manson’ and ‘obama’ signs on your own lawn! Or put it on one sign. Half the bots will think that’s an Obama idea and will support it.

    There are a lot of bad ideas one could suggest. Floridians should make a sign ‘End Zionist Rule — vote Obama’. Ohio voters: ‘Confiscate guns – vote Obama’.

    As for the voter fraud issue: I am livid at the casualness of the Democratic party who have accused Republicans for years (quite rightly I believe) of manipulating registrations and votes and voting machines. Now Dems seem thrilled that they have been doing it too.

    And the idea that it is just coincidence that all this happened in the battleground states is ludicrous.

  322. Buckley is one of the intellectual elitists who shudder at the thought of average and blue-collar people having any voice in government. Maintaining their position in the ivory towers, telling the rest of us what is best for us (in their infinite wisdom), is more important to them than any ideology. That’s why they all luuuurv the Fraud, who condescends to and smirks at the peon classes just as much as they do.

    They are Obama’s base, and exist on BOTH sides of the aisle.

  323. Woooooooooo, The Bots are mad. ROTFL

    Father has no regrets about naming baby Sarah McCain Palin
    Published 10/14/2008 By Kevin Castle

    Sen. John McCain hasn’t called. Neither has Gov. Sarah Palin. But Fox News has. So has NBC, the New York Post and Entertainment Tonight. Since early Tuesday morning, Mark Ciptak has been bragging about his new baby girl, whose name has everyone talking.

    What started as a routine birth announcement turned into a media frenzy for Ciptak, who spent much of Tuesday explaining why he decided to legally name his newborn baby girl Sarah McCain Palin Ciptak without telling his wife, Layla. She thought they had agreed to name the baby, who was born Friday night, Ava Grace.

    “I Googled my name late Monday and two hits came up. I did it this morning and it popped up thousands of times,” the Elizabethton resident said.

    Why did he pick that name? To bring attention to the presidential candidates he supports, said Ciptak.

    He and his wife had signed two sets of blank birth certificate documents Sunday morning. Ciptak decided before they left the hospital to fill in one of them with the name Sarah McCain Palin Ciptak, a name Layla did not approve of. But a hospital official confirmed that’s the name that will be printed on a birth certificate issued by the Tennessee Department of Health’s Office of Vital Records since both signatures are on the form.

    A representative of the Vital Records office said that under Tennessee law, a birth certificate name can be changed within one year if an affidavit is filed with the office.

    Ciptak broke the news to his wife Monday after he was contacted by the Times-News. The newspaper learned of the baby’s name through a routine birth announcement area hospitals give to the media.

    “To be sure, she was not quite fond of me or of what I had done, but we’ve had some time to talk it over, and she has been really supportive through it all. With so much going on, she told me that made it a little easier to absorb,” said Ciptak.

    Ciptak said Monday he picked the name as a way to support the John McCain/Sarah Palin presidential ticket.

    “Did I expect this? Did I think it would go this far? Absolutely not. Am I happy that it’s gone this far? Absolutely. That’s what it was all about, to get the word out, to be encouraging, and to be a breath of fresh air to the McCain camp and that ticket. It seems to have taken off.

    “We took those vows 13 years ago for better for worse, and we have always planned to stick with (those vows) no matter what happened. Even though it’s not as drastic as it could have been, (our marriage) is for the better. I’ve come to love her and respect her more through this.”

    Ciptak said his in-laws and his mother have not been as forgiving as his wife has.

    “I think they are planning my funeral behind my back. There’s some resentment from the family. The conversations have been short and to the point. We’ll see them soon, and I just feel like this too shall pass,” said Ciptak.

    Comments on the story posted at TimesNews.net haven’t been supportive either. Some readers have called Ciptak’s action “moronic” and a stab at “15 minutes of fame.”

    Readers from other parts of the country said it was a publicity stunt that used his daughter as a pawn, and others said it should remain an issue between the couple.

    “That doesn’t surprise me. Do I take it personally? Absolutely not,” said Ciptak.

    “Even the ones who are against (the name or what I did) or even the (Barack) Obama supporters are still talking about it, so in that sense, what I set out to accomplish has come to pass. It doesn’t bother me one bit that people are being negative about it. That’s their right.”

    Ciptak, a blood bank worker for a local American Red Cross office, fielded phone calls most of the day Tuesday, but he doesn’t expect to hear from the candidates.

    “There’s no hard feelings if they don’t call because they’ve got other things to worry about. This is something they don’t really need to speak on,” said Ciptak.

    Other than the recent media attention, Ciptak said he and his wife live a quiet life in Carter County, attending church and raising their three children.

    “My full-time passion is to watch my children grow up in a Godly home. Faith is a huge part of our lives. We’re not perfect by any means, but we continue to press on and fight the good fight,” said Ciptak.

    Ciptak said he and his wife are still mulling over changing their daughter’s name back to Ava Grace, but he does not regret the decision he made that brought his name and his family into the spotlight.

    “If anything, to show some encouragement to someone out there, that if something so simple as naming her what I named her has such a huge impact from just such a little, tangible thing, that we can really do anything. It encourages me that we can do more,” said Ciptak.

    http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9008563

  324. I really think writting a childrens book about either of the candidates is inappropriate. Maybe 100 years after then have been President, and perhaps done something for the nation, but I really don’t think children should be involved in this process.

    We have seen far too much of this in this campaign. Just my opinion.

  325. How about, “Kill your parents…vote Obama.”

    Or, ” All your base are us…vote Obama”

    Or, ” Vote Obama or rot in hell”

    Or, ” Obama…Oprah says so!”

  326. McCain Supporter Wants to Clear the Air

    Cynthia Gordy

    Last week, James T. Harris went from being an average guy to one of the most reviled men in Black America. At a Waukesha, Wisconsin, town hall rally with Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin on Thursday, the African-American radio host from Milwaukee pleaded with McCain to step up his attacks against Barack Obama.

    “We have the good Reverend Wright. We have [the Reverend Michael L.] Pfleger,” Harris said to the cheers of thousands of White audience members. “I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him.” In a show of true solidarity, Harris, 44, and the Republican nominee then hugged.

    As this moment spread throughout the media, many African-Americans likened his impassioned remarks to racial betrayal and subservient shuffling. Theories circulated that Harris was a plant for the McCain campaign. ESSENCE.com talked with Harris, who describes his political beliefs as being “right of Rush,” about how he ended up at the town hall, receiving hate mail, and how he really feels about that hug with John McCain.

    ESSENCE.COM: How are you doing?
    JAMES T. HARRIS: Girl, I’m getting my butt spanked today!

    ESSENCE.COM: I can imagine. You’ve generated a lot of buzz. What attention have you been getting since the rally?

    HARRIS: I’ve heard from Americans of African descent, scattered across the fruited plain, to the tune of about 1,000 or more. I’d say 99 percent of it has been straight up hate on a level that I find a bit overwhelming. They’re coming through my blog, Facebook, e-mail and my business site.

    ESSENCE.COM: What are people saying?
    HARRIS: Let me just pull some up now. [Reading] “Hey man, are you the plant that sucked up to McCain? What were you thinking? You should be ashamed of yourself.” “Are you that self-loathing bastard?” This is just at random. “You are lost, sad and worthy of pity. I will not hate you; I will call you by your rightful name: House ****.” And that was mild! [Laughs.]

    ESSENCE.COM: Have you gotten positive feedback from people applauding you for standing up for your beliefs?
    HARRIS: I would say the mail coming in is 12 to 1-for every 12 negative, I get one positive. There’s been some really heartfelt stuff I’ve read from people across the nation. A number of these e-mails say I spoke for millions of conservatives who are frustrated, like I am, that Senator McCain isn’t engaging Barack Obama on these issues. I’m getting letters like, “You said what many of us have been dying to say.” That’s encouraging. That’s coming from someone who’s my ideological brother. What I find shocking are the people who say they are my brothers in race, who are upset to say the least.

    ESSENCE.COM: Going back to those negative comments, a lot of people do think you were paid by somebody to say those remarks. How did get to participate in the town hall event?
    HARRIS: Through my public speaking work I’ve had an opportunity to speak to the Republican Party in Waukesha on two occasions. And my radio show is popular in that area, so people know who I am. I contacted the Party in Waukesha and said, “If you have two tickets, I would love to be there to show my support.” And so they had me pick up tickets, and my wife and I went to the event. While waiting in line I was standing right next to the parents of the chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin, whose wife was my son’s first grade teacher. This is by pure coincidence. My wife notices her name on the envelope, and we start laughing and talking. Now, the father has health issues so they called their son and said, “We can’t wait in this long line.” And when the security guard came to get them, the father said, “That’s James T. Harris.” The security guard said, “Come with me.” So, we walked in and we sat in reserved seats. I said, “You can seat me anywhere you want,” but seeing as we were two of only four or five Black people out of thousands of people there, they strategically place people where they’ll be seen. There’s nothing new in that. So that’s how we ended up in that area. I had no idea I’d be that close. I didn’t go into that event knowing I would speak and ask a question. When I read stuff about me being a plant, and that I’m speaking on behalf of the McCain camp, it’s laughable! There was no plan to this.

    ESSENCE.COM: At the town hall you said McCain should talk more about Obama’s connection to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. But last spring you could barely turn on the news without seeing Rev. Wright. Don’t you think there’s been enough attention given to that relationship?
    HARRIS: Again, this is further evidence that this thing wasn’t scripted. I thought I had said something different. I wanted to say Barney Frank and Harold Raines, because I believe their fingerprints are all over this economic demise. These people were in my brain, and yet I didn’t articulate it. I went blank. It’s not just Rev. Wright and Reverend Pfleger. It sounded like I was saying, “Bring up all these old things and beat him over the head with it.” Well, you should, in conjunction with the new names that have come up over the past few weeks. I’m sitting in this town hall meeting, and Senator McCain is talking about what he’s going to do about global warming and all these other things. At one point I just raised my hand and said, “I want to know when are you going to take it to Barack Obama?”

    ESSENCE.COM: McCain has already addressed a lot of these issues, including Bill Ayers and ACORN, in campaign attack ads. What specifically do you think he should do, to “take it to Obama,” that hasn’t already been done?
    HARRIS: That’s different. That’s ads. Barack Obama said yesterday that, “McCain hasn’t said this to my face.” You know what? He’s right! Forget all these campaign ads. Say it to his face. I said, “We have one debate left, and we have a few weeks left; I am begging you take it to Obama!” That was the context. Not “Massa, please. Massa, please.” That wasn’t it. That’s the context that’s being looped on CNN and on blog sites. Nobody played the full clip. Maybe I’m just kind of jaded because of all I’ve been going through. I’m like, “Oh my God, this isn’t right.” I really do understand how this is an emotional thing, and people think Stepin Fetchit. But that wasn’t the case at all. I don’t think I carried myself like that, and I don’t think my question was whining.

    ESSENCE.COM: So, let’s talk about that hug…
    HARRIS: That’s another thing I want to clear up. When he came over to me and was bending down, I was like, “What, is he going to hug me?” He didn’t. He whispered something in my ear. He actually just put his hand on my shoulder. But in that moment I was like, “What am I going to do? I can’t not hug him. I can’t pull away. But if I hug him it’s going to look crazy! This is like Sammy Davis, Jr., with Nixon!” But he wasn’t trying to hug me. He just leaned down and whispered something in my ear.

    ESSENCE.COM: What did he say?
    HARRIS: I’m not going to tell you. That was between the Senator and me. After the next debate I’ll be willing to talk about it.

    ESSENCE.COM: The Obama campaign says personal attacks are a distraction from the issues. Why do you think it’s so important to go negative on Obama, rather than focus on what McCain will do for America?
    HARRIS: Something happened in Wisconsin, because for the first time in this election, Senator McCain came face to face with his angry base. We’re frustrated with the fact that John McCain didn’t hold up his part. You can talk about the issues and global warming and how you’re going to have buyouts for homeowners. We are getting decimated, and we believe it’s because you’re not fighting for the values that you say you believe in. You fought in Vietnam, you fought against corruption, and you reached across the aisle. So why, in the final stages, are you capitulating? That was the mood that was in the town hall meeting.

    ESSENCE.COM: Speaking of the mood there, along with other recent McCain rallies, it seemed very angry and hostile. At some rallies people have shouted that Obama is a terrorist. How do you feel about this being the face of Republican voters right now?
    HARRIS: That didn’t take place at the town hall, but I am aware of some stuff that happened in Ohio. I have to be honest with you, after the last 24 hours, no one can roll up on me and talk about hatred and inciting violence after what I have experienced.

    ESSENCE.COM: In your gut, who do you think is going to win?
    HARRIS: John McCain. And, oh Lord, Lord, Lord, if that happens! As much as the followers of Obama are invested in this thing, it’s going to make Bush Derangement Syndrome look like a cold. There’s going to be severe backlash; people are going to lose their minds. Black people are going to say, “Voter suppression, voter fraud.” With the allegiance and almost worship of Barack Obama, I think if he loses it’s going to be very ugly.

    ESSENCE.COM: Don’t you think it could be just as ugly if McCain loses?
    HARRIS: No. If McCain loses, you know who conservatives are going to blame? McCain. You’re going to have people say, “Grandpa McCain lost this election!” People get emotional because they don’t see him running this race right, and that’s what McCain saw Thursday night.

    community.allhiphop.com/go/thread/view/12501/5007437/McCain_Supporter_Wants_to_Clear_the_Air

  327. lil ole grape Says: What do you think about voting straight Republican — from POTUS all the way down to dog-catcher — as many election cycles as it takes to clean out the crap in the dimwit party?
    ==========

    As I keep saying, when the pundist are looking at a total of X number of straight ticket GOP, they can say “Well, those voters were always GOP, they just hadn’t bothered to vote lately.”

  328. I can’t believe all the Hillary bashing I’m seeing here lately.

    Some people must believe she ran simply because she wanted to be President. The truth is she ran because she wanted to do some good things for our country. She would rather do those things than be President.

    People on this blog have stated all along that Obama is stealing her ideas. Today she knows if he is elected then many of those ideas have a chance to become law. She also expects to play a major role in shaping those bills. She is positioning herself to be better able to do that.

    She sees her best chance of doing what she wants for the country is to support the Democrat against the Republican. That’s very simple to understand.

    I admire her for what she is trying to do for us, but I just wish she could help to get it done without supporting Obama. I simply don’t trust that man at all. I’m hoping Hillary can lead a group in the Senate that will tone down the worst of what that turd will try to do. I’m also hoping she can do many of the things she originally proposed.

    If she were the nominee, she would expect all of her former opponents to be supporting her just as she is doing for Obama. Her position is not difficult to understand.

    Lay off Hillary, folks. She deserves better from all of us.

  329. wbboei: said; It is so simple if we just take our emotions out of it. The statement is appopriate for now and has no predictive value for the future. By the way I am on the same roller coaster ride as the rest of us, but eventually we get back to tierra firma.
    ==============

    I try not to ride it. But when I get carried away, I go the cynicism route as more comfortable.

  330. Tickets to see Palin in high demand in Hamilton Co.
    By Robert Annis
    Posted: October 14, 2008

    It may be appropriate that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will be speaking at Verizon Wireless Music Center Friday, as today’s line for tickets to the event had a decidedly rock concert vibe.

    At 2 p.m., an hour before the tickets were scheduled to arrive at the Hamilton County Republican headquarters, the line began to form, quickly snaking around the Fishers strip mall at least 300 yards. By 4 p.m., County GOP Chairman Charlie White knew the office’s allotted 4,200 tickets weren’t going to be enough, and a call was sent for more.

    “We thought with the event being on Friday, the tickets would be distributed over several days,” White said. “I didn’t think they’d be going this fast.”

    Hamilton County Political Director Mike Morgan thought the 24,000 tickets available for Palin’s Noblesville campaign stop would go quickly throughout the state.

    Melissa Sharkey estimated that she waited nearly 90 minutes for tickets. Sharkey, friend Angela Flanery and 18 others planned to attend Friday’s event.

    “She (Palin) is the essence of what America is and what we can accomplish,” Sharkey said. “She’s an intelligent, well-spoken woman, and I admire her courage and ethics.”

    Palin’s appearance is scheduled for 4:30 p.m.

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081014/NEWS05/81014042/1015/LOCAL01
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    Like I said before, the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY are fools they keep putting Palin in the news and the more they talk about her, the more publicity she gets, the more popular she and Todd become.

    PALIN IS MIDDLE AMERICA!!!

  331. justmeinmountdorafl, PA is tied according to BO’s internal polling. That is very good news. Especially since MSM is parroting “Obama way head in PA” meme.

    Also, McCain is ahead in OH, despite this morning’s SurveyUSA poll (read my analysis upthread).

    All that, along with the fact a Dem congressman from your state (and a chairman for BO’s FL campaign, I might add) is being investigated by the FBI for paying hush money to woman with whom he has been having a sexual affair, and I’d say we’ve had a great day!

  332. djia Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    turndown,birdgal,Jan

    thanks for sharing other views on hillary “possibly” stating she probably won’t run again.

    I have to say it’s hard for me sometimes to know what to think anymore LOL!
    ===============

    I try NOT to think about it, usually!

    Sometimes I like to speculate that HIllary was running for Pres largely out of sense of duty, and may be better off in the Senate getting R&R and working on the stuff that really interests her (legislation). I’m sure BIll will be healthier out of the WH!

  333. HillGuy, thanks! you’re the best! Hard for me to read through all of the posts…. I feel PA will go for McCain as well as FL

  334. carbynew, great article on Indiana, thanks!

    Even though I’m glad she’s there, I really don’t know why the campaign is even focusing on IN. Hell, even Rasmussen has McCain +7 there, which means McCain’s up by at least 30. 🙂

  335. —————–TV Alert–

    Don’t forget tonight is the night for PBS’ FRONTLINE.

    Tonight’s show is “The Choice: The two candidates and their campaigns.

    FRONTLINE has never failed to expose something, or someone. Let’s see what they have found out.

  336. I try not to ride it. But when I get carried away, I go the cynicism route as more comfortable
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    turndown: I know some people who can do the cynical thing really well but when I try it I hit bottom pretty fast becasuse I then see the cost of everything and the value of nothing, something I borrowed from Oscar Wilde.

  337. Sherm

    Thank you, so much.

    More of us should have spoken up sooner.

    I have just bee getting off the site to avoid it.

  338. I think we should all remember that HRC was very evasive about running for President, before she ran. She must state she will not run now, as O is on the edge of losing, and he has a gun to her head (probably threatening everyone in her policital area).

    People say thinks, but they can change their minds. HRC will run if the country wants it.

  339. I don’t have a problem with HRC. Like I said, she’s free to do whatever she wants to do. I’m not going to hold anything against her…but I’m not going to vote for Oliar either. So she’ll just have to be “disappointed” in me, I guess. 😉

  340. HRC will run if the country wants it.

    Oh, she’ll run. I’d bet my farm on it. 😉

    But I totally get way she would say she won’t. She’s a smart cookie, that one.

  341. Palin Thwarts The Gas Cartel
    INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
    Posted 10/14/2008

    Energy: Iran resurrected its idea of a “gas cartel” to control gas markets like oil. But even if it succeeds, the U.S. won’t be vulnerable. If you wonder why, look to the governor of Alaska.

    That’s right, Gov. Sarah Palin took a powerful preemptive step in August to shield the U.S. from a coming gas cartel. Palin’s effort to create the Trans-Canada Alaska gas line — which would provide a vast new trove of natural gas each day to the U.S. — effectively nullifies the emerging gas cartel’s potential impact on America.

    If OPEC strikes you as a bad group, the new cartel for natural gas, led by Russia and Iran, will be even worse.

    Russia has made standoffish statements about the plan, but won’t repudiate it. “A gas OPEC is an interesting idea,” then-President Vladimir Putin declared last year. Based on Russia’s moves since, the Heritage Foundation’s Ariel Cohen believes it’s a stealth move from the Kremlin to keep buyers unperturbed as the cartel slowly forms.

    He’s right. This week in Tehran, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quietly drew up the organization’s charter and will take it to Moscow next week.

    One reason for the West’s complacency is the difficulty in founding a gas cartel. The natural gas market isn’t like the oil market, which trades at one price all over the world and can ship its product almost anywhere.

    Most natural gas sales, by contrast, depend on pipelines and 20- or 30-year delivery contracts for pricing, both of which make price manipulation difficult.

    In 10 years, that’s likely to be different. The market is changing fast. Global trade in liquified natural gas, or LNG, which requires no pipelines, will grow sharply. The U.S. will see a 58% increase in LNG imports in just two years, according to the Energy Department.

    As the U.S. uses more natural gas, Iran’s Gas Exporting Countries Forum is taking off. Instead of the tough task of controlling prices right away, the group will first gain control of reserves through state firms in 14 countries, including hostile states such as Venezuela and Bolivia.

    The next step will be “cooperative” ventures to strengthen the network. The final goal is to control production.

    It’s nothing but a scheme to carve up monopoly spheres of influence that can tell customers whom they can buy from. That will kill competition and create incentives for meddling. Russia, which readily cuts off gas to neighbors over political disputes, has signaled that it will keep using gas as a political weapon.

    That bodes ill for the global gas market, and some nations may become vassal states if the cartel dynamic kicks in.

    As for U.S., already fairly self-sufficient in natural gas, we will be in a more solid position to defy the coercion. Palin’s pre-emptive step to foil Ahmadinejad’s scheme is in the Alaska gas line. In an Amazonian move, Palin effectively beat back the ambitious petrotyrants 10 years early with her $40 billion, 1,715-mile gas pipeline across Canada that will bring 4.5 trillion cubic feet of gas a day — nearly one-fifth projected needs — to the lower 48 within a decade.

    Almost entirely off the news radar, Palin mowed down 30 years of legislative squabbling in the Alaska statehouse and then triumphantly signed off on the pipeline in August, stating her aim was energy independence.

    “Alaska should be the leader of an energy policy that gets us there,” she told IBD over the summer.

    Her swift response mirrors her strong support for drilling for oil and gas in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Asked about forecasts that its oil could take 10 years to come to market, Palin told IBD that planning was critical to energy security.

    “You have to consider that if we’d started (drilling ANWR) five years ago, we wouldn’t be in this position right now,” she said.

    Her gas line shows the same foresight, this time aimed at neutralizing enemies that will otherwise grow in strength. Palin’s pipeline will be a critical strike for energy security against petrotyrants intent on extending their influence. It will come online at precisely the moment the gas cartel could develop into a power.

    This isn’t to say petrotyrants will go away, that the U.S. won’t be in the crossfire. U.S. self-sufficiency in natural gas will be roughly equivalent to Brazil’s in oil. The South American country which sees few problems from petrotyrants in the wake of its oil independence based on its willingness to drill. The U.S. likely will have the same strength in natural gas.

    Energy security is a peculiar concept. Conventional wisdom holds that the U.S. has too few resources to bother drilling. But a nation need not have massive oil reserves for independence; all it needs are competitive alternatives — such as natural gas. Heading off the gas cartel is an important move, and Palin deserves recognition.

    Palin’s foresight is a major contribution to U.S. energy security that will reverberate well beyond the election, no matter how it turns out
    *****************************************************
    On this issue of Energy independence, I agree with the Republican party on this. I come from CA and saw what happened when California went through it’s blackout stages for months and with out the help of the Western Region we would have sufferred worst small business loses then we did.

    GWB gave us the finger when he came into power and CA never forgot it.

    That’s is one of the reason I want Sarah Palin as VP her knowledge of Oil and Gas is invaluble. Most of the time the Dems are talking crap or protecting their campaign donors over what is best for the country.

    I don’t TRUST Nancy Pelusi or Harry Reid for that matter…they’re both weak leaders for this country.

  342. wbboei,

    Maybe I meant ‘sceptical’. Just that WE DON’T KNOW, so why guess and then have an emotional reacton to the ‘guess of the day’.

    When I must guess, I take comfort from the mildly cynical guess that Hillary is playing for her issues, not for the thrill of First Woman President.

    Personally, karma narrative wise, I think it’s even cooler that what happened to HIllary resulted in Palin’s nomination! I’d love it if Hillary won in 2012 and then Palin followed her.

  343. I just hope McCain really gets in Bambi’s face tomorrow night.

    Also, I don’t believe the polls. It seems like everytime something comes out against Bambi, all the sudden he goes up in the polls. I don’t believe it.

    I do think rural and small town PA will go for McCain. I’m hoping that the more people see Bambi supposedly leading in the polls, the more people who were going to stay home will go out to vote for McCain. Having them think Bambi is leading, will get them out for McCain. At least, I hope it will.

  344. Oh yes

    BREAKING: 6th Circuit reverses on TRO (devastation, humiliation for Jennifer Brunner)

    A 3-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals recently vacated a temporary restraining order which would effectively make Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner follow the law – and do her job – in preventing election fraud. Tonight, the full court decided to hear the case en banc, and has reimposed the TRO. This is great news.

  345. Bluegirl

    Also if O is leading, some of his supporters might not come out. The Reps always understand how important their vote is, but getting Dems to vote has always been a problem.

  346. Oh yes

    BREAKING: 6th Circuit reverses on TRO (devastation, humiliation for Jennifer Brunner)

    A 3-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals recently vacated a temporary restraining order which would effectively make Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner follow the law – and do her job – in preventing election fraud. Tonight, the full court decided to hear the case en banc, and has reimposed the TRO. This is great news.
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    good: remember my posting a day or so ago. I said the 3 judges were wrong. I am delighted to see the full court agreed with me.

  347. • turndownobama-com Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
    lil ole grape Says: What do you think about voting straight Republican — from POTUS all the way down to dog-catcher — as many election cycles as it takes to clean out the crap in the dimwit party?
    ==========
    As I keep saying, when the pundist are looking at a total of X number of straight ticket GOP, they can say “Well, those voters were always GOP, they just hadn’t bothered to vote lately
    “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    I don’t give a hoot or a holler in hell what the pundits say.. And my motive is not vengeful. I care about cleaning the spineless and unprincipled out of the dimwit party

    Sherm Kader Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
    I can’t believe all the Hillary bashing I’m seeing here lately.
    “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    So glad you noticed. It’s tiresome. It’s also crude and cruel to keep on kicking a person when she’s down. Typical fan mentality – love when you’re on top, drop you when you’re not. But most of the people here are more politically sophisticated than that, as you know.

    • Emjay Says:
    October 14th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
    Sherm
    Thank you, so much.
    More of us should have spoken up sooner.
    I have just bee getting off the site to avoid it.
    “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’””””””
    Me, too, Emjay, but it’s really getting to me. I came on board last night and was appalled at the Hill-bashing – thought the name had been changed to the KILL HILL SITE!

    Let’s hope we’ve heard the last of it. We can always read that whining on other sites if we care to. NQ often has HRC bashing commentaries. Seems to me if you don’t have a clue about what HRC is doing, you could go back and read old postings – many of us have been trying to explain it to you for months!

    MOONONPLUTO, that IS good news – where did you see that?

  348. Howard Stern Exposes Why Black People Support Barack Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg4Njtmbb10

    Howard did a test and gave McCain policies and vp as Obama and all the black Obama supporters were agreeing with McCain policy and vp Sarah palin.

    ROTFLMAO….My die for lack of knowledge and truth.

    Admin pls embed

  349. If Hillary had said “Why yes, I intend on running again…” She would basically be saying “I know this dipshit is gonna lose, and I fully intend on running against Palin in 2012.”

  350. I’m not one to wallow in fear or despair and that may be why I am so angry with what happened this entire election. From jan.’07 til now anyone that has opposed BHO has been silenced. EVERYONE. The media fails to report anything negative about him, the dnc and the media never vetted him and the rest of us are supposed to follow like blind sheep? Hillary has turned into an ineffective liar and Bill is still the consumate politician trying to maintain his leadership mantle in the party by pretending to support the fraud. People that I admired for decades I no longer trust and I don’t speak of or display my opposition to BHO because I have found there are more nutcases that are democrats than I thought.

    I feel oppressed and that makes me angry

  351. Lets fire big media and hire that plummer. He knows how to question bambi. Penetrating question. Incriminating response. Wont punish your success. Will spread your wealth around.

    Bambi= Hope. Change. Revolution.

    That is the bottom line. Anyone who tells you different is not telling you the truth. The reasons for this will vary. But the truth is the truth.

  352. Michelle just dropped Obama in it, he was adopted, that means his citizenship is indonesian, hence the indonesian passport. This will be fun.

    Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API.

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/

  353. Mich. AG Charges Ex-ACORN Worker With Forgery

    The evidence that this is widespread will soon be too big to ignore.

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/17716260/detail.html

    Michigan’s attorney general is charging a former employee of a community organizing group with forgery after he says the man falsely submitted six voter registration forms.

    He worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN.

  354. And the shit hits the fan with great speed.

    Sen. Cornyn Seeks Immediate Nationwide Criminal Probe of ACORN
    Sends Letter to U.S. Attorney General Regarding Reports of Widespread Election Fraud

    cornyn.senate.gov/public/

    WASHINGTON— In the wake of numerous reports of widespread election fraud by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, sent a letter today to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey requesting that the Department of Justice immediately launch a nationwide criminal probe into ACORN’s voter registration activities and investigate ACORN as a “criminal enterprise.”

    In his letter, Sen. Cornyn, a former State Attorney General and Texas Supreme Court Justice, said, “Election fraud imposes a real cost on our system, beyond the obvious consequence of subverting a free and fair election. Fraudulent voter registration on this scale seriously strains state and local elections resources and distracts elections officials from preparing to conduct an orderly election. Of course, ACORN’s nationwide voter registration fraud provides an opportunity for individuals to vote who should not, or for some to vote more than once.”

    Sen. Cornyn closed his letter highlighting the various aspects of federal law that may have been violated by ACORN and said “because the violations of federal voting laws by ACORN employees appear to be so widespread, ACORN and its affiliates should be investigated as a criminal enterprise.”

  355. Rove: Obama Is Deemed ‘Unqualified’ By More Americans Than Any Other Modern Candidate – Besides Dukakis
    Karl Rove, a moment ago on Fox News: “Ronald Reagan was behind at this point in the 1980 election… There were doubts as to whetehr or not Reagan was up to the job. He was being potrayed as this out of touch Hollywood star. There are deep and persistent doubts about whether Obama is qualified to be president. In May, the Washington Post poll found that 44 percent said he was unqualified. In June, August, September and now October, between 44 and 48, now 45 or 44 percent, say Obama is unqualified. That is the second-highest total in modern American history, exceeded only by… Michael Dukakis in October 1988 after two disastrous debate performances.”
    UPDATE: Looking at the poll, the question is, “Regardless of who you may support, do you think Obama does or does not have the kind of experience it takes to serve effectively as president?” Right now it’s 54 percent yes, 45 percent no.
    10/14 04:12 PM

  356. Thats what killed Dukakis at the box, at the end of the day undecideds went with Hillary because she was deemed experienced, the same things gonna happen again with McCain.

  357. If bambi thinks he will spread the wealth around he may well create a nation wide taxpayers revolt. I will say it again all leadership depends on the consent of the governed. He does not understand that.

    If that mandate is lacking the people will fuck the leader 10 ways from Sunday. What does the leader do then. Haul them out to the town square and execute them? It has been tried. It does not work. You cannot rob Peter to pay Paul.

  358. moononpluto Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    Oh yes

    BREAKING: 6th Circuit reverses on TRO (devastation, humiliation for Jennifer Brunner)

    A 3-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals recently vacated a temporary restraining order which would effectively make Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner follow the law – and do her job – in preventing election fraud. Tonight, the full court decided to hear the case en banc, and has reimposed the TRO. This is great news.

    ————————————————————————————————-

    This the best news that I have heard today.

  359. Is African Press International (API) a legitimate news organization?? If so, everyone go read their latest story. They are saying that Michelle Obama called them to complain about their news coverage of her husband and she went off on a rant and said some very controversial things…

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/

  360. A long time ago, someone here said that the pressure would get to MeesShell and she would eventually lose it.

    Is this the beginning?

  361. I am very serious about this. When leadership is illegitimate and seeks to impose its will on a populaton there can be no trust and without trust the enterprise will fail.

    I have seen this happen in business organizations and the only thing we could do was fire the leader. If we failed to do that we would lose the workforce. There were far more of them than there were of us, and we could not watch them 24 hours a day. We needed their trust.

    That is why the Obama will fail as a leader. No other outcome is possible. If there were any elder statesmen left in the party, they would have intervened by now and spared all of us this political and societal death by a thousand cuts.

  362. WASHINGTON— In the wake of numerous reports of widespread election fraud by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, sent a letter today to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey requesting that the Department of Justice immediately launch a nationwide criminal probe into ACORN’s voter registration activities and investigate ACORN as a “criminal enterprise.”
    ———————————————
    I am glad Cornyn is doing this. My only regret is it will probably kill Rick Noriega who is part of a new generation of Hispanic leaders who will do great things for our county. But the pending threat to our democracy supercedes the career of any politican. This is serious business folks.

  363. A long time ago, someone here said that the pressure would get to MeesShell and she would eventually lose it.
    ——————————————–
    One french fry short of a happy meal.

  364. The choice, in 2008 is…………….

    WHO CAN DELIVER ?

    PBS FRONTLINE program ending.

    My very personal gut response is…Hillary Rodham Clinton…

  365. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but if the API story is genuine, wouldn’t that be a big story? MO calls the media, bloggers and conservatives racists

  366. wbboei, you always write the best commentary…I enjoy reading your insights and comments. Great perspective on what is happening…

  367. To the few that have decided to thrw Hillary under your Bus.
    Just stop and consider the fact that an Acorn investigation in so many states will turn up the fact that Hillary has received even more votes than had been reported.It will surely show her to be the most serious victim of voter fraud that was financed,engineered and approved by Barack Hussein Obama an her plan was to continue to support her party until the last shoe drops and the Messiah will be on the next train out of Dodge.She and Bill have played their cards well and have endured even more pain and humiliation from weakneed former supporters.Just sit back and see honesty and justice played out.She suspended but did not quit.It is my understanding that if The Hustler is brought doen before the inauguration as the next party candidate with the most votes will be the person chosen to be the candidate.wbboei please correct me if I am in error on this scenario.My hopes and prayers are still strong in my desire to see the most qualified person,a woman,Hillary Rodham Clinton become the 44th President.God help America if I am Wrong.

    By ABM90 My spirits are rising with every hour as the truth about The Hustler is being unveiled.C’mon back guys the future looks brighter every day.

  368. I’m voting for Noriega, but I’m glad Cornyn is doing this. He’s my senator, and I have called his office 3 times about ACORN, and the caucus fraud here in TX.

    On one of those calls a couple of weeks ago, I spoke for about 10 minutes to a VERY interested aide, filling him in on how deep this voting corruption goes, Obama training for them, the Chicago connection, etc. He asked a lot of questions, and seemed to be taking notes.

  369. From MSNBC news.com:

    “CINCINNATI – A federal appeals court on Tuesday ordered Ohio’s top elections official to set up a system by Friday to verify the eligibility of new voters and make the information available to the state’s 88 county election boards.

    The full 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati upheld a lower court ruling that Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner must use other government records to check thousands of new voters for registration fraud.

    snip

    666,000 registrations since January
    About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January, with many doing so before the contested Democratic primary election last March between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Since then, Ohio Republicans have filed a series of challenges to the registrations and Brunner’s administration of election rules. They have helped voters file lawsuits against local boards of election over registration rules, absentee ballot requests and a weeklong period that allowed registration and voting on the same day.

    Brunner previously said there was no way to set up the system with such speed.

    Last week, a three-judge panel of the 6th Circuit had sided with Brunner, but after hearing an appeal the full panel sided with the GOP and U.S. District Judge George C. Smith in Columbus. Smith had ordered Brunner to develop a way to verify voter registration information and make it available to local election boards.

    Brunner argued that it would take two to three days to create the necessary computer programs, and said nothing in the federal Help America Vote Act required her to do what the district court ordered.

    GOP alleges partisan agenda
    Tuesday’s order directs Brunner to verify new registrations by comparing that information with data from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration.

    Ohio Republican Chairman Bob Bennett accused Brunner of pursuing a partisan agenda and said “her delay in providing this matching system leaves little time for election officials to act on questionable registrations.”

    Bennett said Brunner was destroying the public’s trust in Ohio’s elections system.

    “Her shameful actions to disenfranchise Republican absentee voters, block the transparency of early voting and refuse the proper verification of newly registered voters have rightfully damaged her credibility as a nonpartisan election administrator,” he said.

    Polling in the state shows Obama, now the Democratic presidential nominee, slightly ahead of Republican challenger John McCain. Both campaigns have worked hard in the state, which has 20 electoral votes and gave President Bush a second term in 2004

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27188603

  370. From AmericanGal above: This is shocking, must read!

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/

    Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API.

    Posted by africanpress on October 15, 2008

    Accusing API of colluding with American internet bloggers in an effort to bring down her husband, Mrs Obama said she decided to call API because of what she termed, API’s help to spread rumours created by American bloggers and other racist media outlets in their efforts to damage a black man’s name, saying she hopes African Media was mature enough to be in the front to give unwavering support to her husband, a man Africans should identify themselves with.

    When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”

    This is a very interesting turn of events. The American man Dr Corsi was recently reported to have been arrested in Kenya because there was fear that he might reveal information on Obama when he wanted to hold a press conference in Nairobi.

    The question now is why he was arrested and who ordered his arrest. Was Obama’s hand in this in any way? We will never know the truth but what is clear is that Dr Corsi was seen as a threat while in Kenya.

    When API asked Mrs Obama to comment on why Dr Corsi was arrested by the Kenyan government and whether she thought Kenya’s Prime Minister Mr Raila Odinga was involved in Dr Corsi’s arrest, she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.

    When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy.

    On Farakhan and his ministry, Mrs Obama told API that it was unfortunate that Mr Farakhan came out the way he did supporting her husband openly before the elections was over. That was not wholehearted support but one that was calculated to convince the American people that my husband will support the growth of muslim faith if he became the president, adding “even if my husband was able to prove that he is not a Muslim, he will not be believed by those who have come out strongly to destroy his chances of being the next President. Do real people expect someone to deny a religion when 80 percent of his relatives are Muslims?; Mrs Obama asked.

    Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year.

    ———————–

    Published by African Press International – API

  371. I think this MO story is big — she has lost it. Five things:
    1. She acknowledges his adoption and leaves it at that — does that mean he never gave up his Indonesian citizenship and passport?
    2. She is calling people who don’t support her husband racists and evil people. Not very first lady like.
    3. She is demanding race allegiance from those poor API guys — even saying ” simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency..”
    4. She says Farrakhan should have kept his mouth shut until the inauguration.
    5. She says her husband loves this country in spite of all these racists and evil people.

    Bottomline not first lady material.

  372. birdgal, right wing or not, MO needs to get what’s coming to her. Never forget her “If you can’t take care of your own house, how you gonna take care of the White House” jab at Hillary. To say nothing of the interview in which she said she would “have to think about” voting for Hillary should she win the democratic nomination.

    Hate her.

  373. To all,

    Apologies if I’ve said anything that bothered anyone. I’m not sure what I’m trying to say, just thinking out loud.

  374. “We’re frustrated with the fact that John McCain didn’t hold up his part.”

    I’m afraid McCain doesn’t ‘get it.’ He doesn’t seem to realize the danger Obama represents.

  375. Barack Hussein Obama’s 90 day moratorium is disgusting. It was Hillary’s idea. And if he is admitting what all of us have been saying all along, that her policies were better why the heck do we have this empty suit representing our party?

  376. Just for fun, does everyone remember our favorite psychic Michelle Whitedove? The one who insisted Hillary will be the first woman president?? Well she hasn’t changed her tune. Here is her most recent update:

    Written Oct. 10th, 2008
    Economic Crisis + Election Predictions
    Psychic insights by Michelle Whitedove

    Obama will be sworn in and we will all live happily ever after! NO, this is just another fairytale that some American’s are buying into. It’s NOT going to happen; psychically I see that America is headed for an unprecedented upset.

    [snip]

    – With every fiber of my being, I know that there is a major event looming either:

    A) A US government plot which will be 911-like, with Bush claiming a state of emergency thus suspending and postponing the election and self imposing his dictatorship.
    B) Another stolen election.
    C) Some other huge upset like the stock market collapse.
    D) An assassination.
    E) All of the above.
    This major event will be the catalyst for our government to instate military personnel for martial law. The ball is in motion, I clearly see that riots are already expected surrounding the elections. I have predicted Martial Law being enforced in the US since 2002 now look at the PROOF that it’s coming: LINK VIDEO ORDERS

    -Hilary (for all of those that keep emailing)

    She cut a deal with the shadow government; I still see her in play for the postponed election.

    *******************************

    Take what you will from these kinds of predictions, but I like the first part, about there being NO way Gutter Ball is going to win, and that we are in for an “unprecedented upset.” I remember this psychic was interviewed by Alan Colmes days before the 2004 GE, when all the polls had Kerry winning, and all the pundits said Kerry could not lose, and she said, “Nope. Bush will be reelected.” Something to think about…

  377. Biden laundering campaign cash to family, their firms

    Ruh Roh

    http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/15/biden-routes-campaign-cash-to-family-their-firms/

    Democratic vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. has paid more than $2 million in campaign cash to his family members, their businesses and employers over the years, a practice that watchdogs criticize as rife with potential conflicts of interest.

    Getty Images FAMILY: Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s son, Hunter Biden, was at a campaign stop with his father in December. The candidate’s sister, Valerie Biden Owens, is his longtime campaign manager.

    The money largely flowed from the coffers of Mr. Biden’s failed presidential campaign during the past two years to a company that employs his sister and longtime campaign manager, Valerie Biden Owens, according to campaign disclosure filings.

    The senator from Delaware also directed campaign legal work to a Washington lobbying and law firm founded by his son R. Hunter Biden, the disclosures show.

    Putting family members and their companies on the political payroll is legal if the work is legitimate and charged at market rates, according to the Federal Election Commission. Still, public watchdog groups have long criticized such arrangements.

  378. WTF…Developing

    Florida Democrat Congressman Mahoney’s 2nd Affair Revealed By Staffer

    stuckon-stupid.com/2008/10/15/florida-democrat-congressman-mahoneys-2nd-affair-revealed-by-staffer/

    Democratic U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney is alleged to have had a second affair. Mahoney, a 16th district Florida Congressman representing the Palm Beach area is accused by an aid of having a separate affair with a Martin County woman.

    Mahoney won his seat in 2006 while promising to return morals and family values to Washington. This was in the aftermath of the resignation of U.S. Rep. Mark Foley. ….

  379. I’ve always had this feeling of her getting it at the last minute. I was wondering if Hillary got some word of O being removed from the race and that prompted her denial of wanting to run. That would make it seem to obots less like a victory they would resent and more like a replacement.

  380. Vera Baker Obama’s Secret Girlfriend

    This is really going viral.

    http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212178557.shtml

    Is the lovable charismatic Barack Obama hiding the fact that he has a girlfriend? Or is he the victim of the ‘Bradley Effect?’ Rumors are swarming that Obama has committed adultery on Michelle Obama with a woman by the name Vera Baker.

    Vera baker is a staffer who worked for Barack Obama during his run for the United States Senate in 2004. Rumor has it that Michelle Obama was complaining about the supposed close friendship between Barack Obama and Vera Baker and before the public knew it, she was transferred to work at the Caribbean on the island of Martinique.

    The story goes as following: Vera Baker was Obama’s “Finance Director” for his 2004 Senate campaign and made a good buck doing so. Although those who followed the campaign, Claire Serdiuk was known as the finance director on all the postings but strangely Vera Baker was paid too for the same position but not listed. According to reports, Michelle Obama became very angry about something and all of a sudden Vera Baker was relocated to New York. It is said that Michelle was EXTRA angry about something, but it was not specified as to what in the media. And then, not very long after relocating to New York, Vera Baker found herself on the island of Martinique.

  381. Obama Tells the Tax Truth

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152008/postopinion/editorials/obama_tells_the_tax_truth_133633.htm

    An unscripted moment with an Ohio plumber produced a startling confession from Barack Obama Sunday: The Democrat’s “middle-class tax cut” is in fact a scheme to “spread the wealth around.”

    Obama dropped the mask long enough to tell the truth to Toledo plumber Joe Wurzelbacher – who had asked the Democratic nominee why he wanted to jack up his taxes just for “fulfilling the American dream.”

    “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes $250,000 to $280,000 a year,” Wurzelbacher had told Obama. “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?”

    “It’s not that I want to punish your success,” Obama replied. “I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success, too . . . When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

    At last! The truth outs!

    Obama’s plan isn’t about sinking hooks into Wall Street CEOs and other fat cats, as he usually says. Fact is, there’s not enough of them to raise the cash necessary to finance his other grand plans.

    No, to do that, he’ll have to go after ambitious working-class guys like Wurzelbacher – who’s been a plumber for 15 years and is looking to better himself and his family while just maybe creating a few jobs.

    The American Dream?

  382. Study shows interest in Sarah Palin leads the candidate pack in searches online
    Politics, Law & Society
    Press release from: v-Fluence Interactive
    PR Agency: v-Fluence Interactive

    SAN DIEGO (Oct. 14, 2008) – Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin’s been described as a game-changer for the presidential campaign—and that appears to be true judging from how the Alaskan governor dominates online search interest for candidates in the upcoming presidential election, according to the recent v-Fluence Interactive presidential campaign candidate search language study.

    Palin draws nearly four times more search volume than her running mate, Republican presidential candidate, John McCain, and twice as much as the pair’s chief rival, Senator Barack Obama, according to a v-Fluence Interactive study of the most often-used search language related to presidential candidates.

    “Governor Palin’s place on the Republican ticket has spurred significant interest in her as a candidate,” says Jay Byrne, v-Fluence president. “This interest may not translate to support; however, it presents opportunities for both sides seeking to capture those interested in Palin-specific content online.”

    The study also shows that Governor Palin draws the greatest amount of searches by men—60 percent of the searches relating to her came from men, while 40 percent came from women. By contrast, searches related to Senator McCain run 48 percent male, and 52 percent female. Searches for Senator Obama, meanwhile, came mostly from women—54 percent, compared to 46 percent from men.

    “The demographic splits are intriguing. When we delve further into search intent, it’s clear that a significant degree of Governor Palin’s online search interest relates to people looking for photos and multi-media,” Byrne says. For example, v-Fluence’s study found that four of the top 10 search terms relating to Governor Palin seek pictures or photos.

    Another key finding: Online search interest does not connect the candidates to any significant degree with specific issues. Across all four presidential and vice presidential candidates, the most commonly used search terms do not associate with a given issue, such as the economy, healthcare or jobs.

    “These findings appear to affirm what pundits have been saying—while the public may care about specific issues, the vast majority of the online public appears to be more interested in candidate personalities,” Byrne says. Other study findings show that searches on candidates’ family members and their biographies support this observation.

    The v-Fluence study also shows that Democratic vice presidential candidate, Senator Joe Biden, draws the least amount of search interest among the four candidates in the current campaign.

    http://www.openpr.com/news/56576/Study-shows-interest-in-Sarah-Palin-leads-the-candidate-pack-in-searches-online.html

  383. Potential voter registration fraud investigated in Caddo (Louisiana) – seems they are at it everywhere.

    http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=9177256

    SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) – “They walked in here just mounding up cards,” said Registrar of Voters for Caddo Parish, Ernie Roberson while looking over a box full of thousands of voter registration cards. “They” are a group called Voting is Power, that went door to door in Caddo Parish to register people to vote, “They turned in about 8600 applications, out of that number 1400 new ones, sorted out the new and then we had around 1400 address changes, the rest of them were non existent,” says Roberson.

    Before the organization ACORN appeared in the headlines for reported registration fraud, VIP caught the attention of Louisiana authorities over the summer. “They swamped all of us with a lot of applications but we haven’t had the problem since we aggressively started dealing with that group and I think they just picked up and left Louisiana,” says Roberson.

    The Louisiana Secretary of State’s Office is investigating the group, Voting is Power. The Secretary of State won’t comment on the investigation, only to say all the findings will be turned over to the parish district attorneys in the parishes where the cards were turned in. The fear here in Caddo is: The damage has already been done “What I’m afraid of is a lot of people think they are registered, and that’s going to cause problems on election day,” says Roberson. That’s because many of the applications turned in, even with real names, were incomplete. A big headache that’s resulting in thousands of man hours. “It costs money, democracy is very expensive whenever you have to sort through hundreds and even thousands of forms that are either duplicates or completely bogus that costs us time. Ultimately costing the tax payer money.

  384. Clinton Fundraisers Meet With Governor Sarah Palin
    Posted on October 15, 2008 by renaissancelady48

    A fundraiser with Gov Sarah Palin was noted by The New York Times in their article, “Clinton Supporters Aid Palin”, it was a Who’s Who of Hillraisers. In attendance were the following Clinton fundraisers, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a former telecommunications entrepreneur and “Hillraiser”, Calvin Fayard, also a former Hillraiser and longtime Democratic donor from Louisiana, Miguel Lausell, a former senior political adviser to the Clinton campaign from Puerto Rico and John Coale, a former Hillraiser, Washington lawyer and husband of Fox News television host Greta Van Susteren.

    More from the Times on an extended evening of fundraising for the McCain/Palin ticket:

    “The reception, which organizers said brought in more than $500,000, was part of an extended evening of fund-raising for Ms. Palin and Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign at the Grand Hyatt in New York that officials estimated raised more than $8 million.

    Ms. Palin, along with her husband, Todd, mingled and posed for pictures with the group of about 20, before appearing at the larger finance event, which McCain campaign officials said was the last time Mr. McCain would personally appear at a fund-raiser before the election. It was also the first time the pair had appeared together for donors.

    Good on them I say. It was time for Sarah to meet Hillraisers who are now supporting their ticket. Her and Senator McCain are very fortunate, their stars are attached to former Hillary supporters who were disillusioned by the “Democratic Party”.

    More from the article:

    While Mrs. Clinton has implored her former supporters to back Senator Barack Obama, some still harbor ill will towards him, organizers said.

    “These people want to give their vote of disapproval,” said Mr. Lausell. “This is a way they’re doing it.”

    I agree Mr. Lausell as do many other former Hillary supporters

    msplaceddemocrat.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/clinton-fundraisers-meet-with-governor-sarah-palin/

  385. hehe Carby, you and I have both been very busy here this morning, we are the graveyard shift information unit.

  386. I’m having a hard time believing that the telephone conversation with M.O. actually took place. Something just seems wierd about it.

  387. Moonpluto and carbynew,

    You guys ROCK! 😉

    BTW,
    whaddaya think about the Meesh story upthread? True or rumor?

  388. carbynew

    Good Morning

    That fund raising group is amazing. There are others that have put county before party. I think the statement of Ill will is interesting. It makes them and us look like we are doing this with spit. This blog has looked at the issues, and many have found either they will not vote, will vote for a third party, or will vote for McCain. The problem here is the man and the forces leading this campaign.

    He has no record, he has changed his mind on key issues, he is surrounded by questionable people, and we just don’t think he can be trusted to lead the country. The leaders of the party did not listen to the will of the people, and after 2000 may of us find it undemocratic. That ill will stuff makes them feel better. Then they don’t have to admit to themselves that they blew it and ran the wrong person.

    I own my vote, and I vote only once.

  389. JanH

    I agree with you, I find the MO conversation some sort of plant. It was not a slip, but an outright long conversation. I really don’t think that could have happened.

  390. Here is the article from AIP.

    Whaddaya think?

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/

  391. can someone follow through on this?

    This entry was posted on October 15, 2008 at 2:46 pm and is filed under AA > News and News analysis. . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  392. I have no qualms with candidates using family and friends to help in their campaigns as long as it is on the up and up. Every school board, city council, mayor and all the way up does it.
    The reason this even becomes necessary is because the costs of elections are out of control.

    this is one of the reasons public financing of elections should be mandatory and the other is to GET MEDIA INFLUENCE OUT OF ELECTIONS.

  393. Here is an article questioning BO’s citizenship on 10?14. The AIP also posted an article by Judah benjamine from TD. I dunno – it seems like there is a legitimate interest in the story.

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/it-is-getting-more-confusing-as-we-near-elections-obama-where-are-you-really-born-obama-born-in-kenya-reported-that-his-grandmother-says-yes/

    INSERT h tt p

  394. Not sure what to make of the Mish story. I honestly wouldn’t think she’d be that stupid…but, of course , I didn’t think JJ would be so stupid to come out with statements that could kill Oliars jewish votes.

    I’m on the fence on this one.

  395. Looks like Guy can’t go to her show either

    People Magazine – 38 minutes ago
    By SImon Perry Madonna and husband Guy Ritchie are set to announce the end of their almost-eight-year marriage, it was claimed early Wednesday.

    Madonna, I like a lot of your music but right now..YOU SUCK

  396. Tonight we will hear from BHO the regurgitated scripts, cover ups and lies.
    We will hear John McCain challenge him on these things and then be called an angry old man.
    The media will give the debate to BHO

    This is what we can always expect from the media and the pundits.

    Don’t be discouraged.

    WE KNOW THE TRUTH

  397. debbie

    How does O manage to twist everything. It is like he uses reverse tactics on us. He also seems to turn the tables first. His campaign has been restricting the press, and bullying from the get go. He is the one always in court trying to stop something.

    He also does not have to answer, in my estimations, a very basic question, where were you born. You would think that the courts would move this to a number one priority, and not slip it beyond the election. We needed to know this information, or proof there of, two months ago.

  398. debbie,
    What worries me is wtf has JM waited so long? if he raises the Ayers issue tonight it will look like a desperate ploy whereas if he’d brought it up sooner it would seem more appropriate.
    WF are he and HRC so scared about?
    I sometimes think JM just doesn’t want to tarnish his legacy with allegations of racism, no matter how absurd and fraudulent they are.
    But I think politicians should care more about their voters than their legacy.
    OTOH. after hearing BO is covered in a 2008 literature textbook, his 2004 speech and excepts from his book quoted and he’s given 15 pages, i dunno. Does the textbook company know something? I read they’re BO campaign contributors.This whole strategy by JM makes no sense if he really wants to win. (IMHO)

  399. Survey USA’s poll of New Mexico has Obama up 7 on 52 to 45

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ba699494-7256-4aa2-9b23-70937ba83401

    however the sample they are using is 50% Dem, 37% Rep and 12% Indie

    now since yesterday Susa have started covering their asses in sticking in notes and caveats in their polls.

    eg :
    While overall numbers remain steady, there is some offsetting movement along age lines, with some movement toward McCain among the youngest voters, and offsetting movement toward Obama among older voters.

    Obama continues to need the support of Hispanic Americans and Native Americans to win the state. McCain leads by 13 points among New Mexico whites; Obama leads by 45 points among Hispanics and by 29 points among Natives. If Hispanic turnout is overstated in this model, so is Obama’s lead. If Hispanic turnout is understated in this model, so is Obama’s lead.

    Interesting.

  400. Obama’s plan isn’t about sinking hooks into Wall Street CEOs and other fat cats, as he usually says. Fact is, there’s not enough of them to raise the cash necessary to finance his other grand plans.

    No, to do that, he’ll have to go after ambitious working-class guys like Wurzelbacher – who’s been a plumber for 15 years and is looking to better himself and his family while just maybe creating a few jobs.
    —————————————

    I am surprised that anyone was surprised. Fat cats are his ally. The middle class is his target. We will bear the brunt of his redistibutionist and trillion dollar to Africa programs.

    The more immediate problem will be security on November 5 and after. If he wins his followers may tear the town up. If he loses his followers may tear the town up. People need to expect the worst, hope for the best, and if they are in vulnerable circumstances make sure they have the ability to defend themselves.

    On VJ Day 1945, the commanding officer of Treasure Island granted liberty to the Navy enlisted men and they tore up the town of San Francisco. No officer in uniform was safe. He and two of his fellow naval officers hid out in a bar that night until order was restored. Fortunately, the bar was well stocked with inventory.

    A few years back the luminaries of my town decided it would be good to invite the WTO ministers here for their conference. There were warning signs but no one heeded them.

    Thousands of bots descended into out town and went on a rampage. Big Media aided and abetted the crime. I witnessed one example of this and it confirmed my worst suspicons. The culprit was a jouranlist from NYT. The incident is not important but the prececedent is.

    The same thing may happen in the aftermath of this election. It is at least a concern. When bots firebomb a house in Portland, destoy cars in my town, burn signs there is reason to believe they are just getting warmed up. I would be surprised if this was not occurring at other places in the country. The towns that were burned in the late 1960s are likely to again be at risk.

    You can be reasonably certain that if Obama loses Big Media will have a hissy fit. They will scream racism from one end of the country to the other in order to explain their error. And that may be all it takes to incite violence.

    For these reasons it may be prudent to prepare for all contigencies in case something does happen. Food stores and the means of personal protection would seem appropriate.

  401. EVERYONE!!!!!!
    Off topic but PLEEEEZE watch this video Norma posted yesterday.
    It’s a 13 par series called Zeitgeist. Each section is about 10 minutes long. Part 2 covers the Federal Reserve and how the stock market collapse of 1913 and 1929 were planned and the inference is the same thing could very well be happening now.
    Here is the link 2 Part 2.
    MUST SEE clip!!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A&feature=related

  402. John Kerry came to Madison, Wisconsin and less than 250 showed up

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/john-kerry-came-to-madison-wisconsin-and-less-than-250-people-showed-up/

    100 U.S. Ambassadors Endorse McCain-Palin

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/100-us-ambassadors-endorse-mccain-palin/

  403. birdgirl, I honestly don’t think McCain is the kinda guy who relishes in bringing up the worst in people. I think that has been his achilles heel but I admire him for being that way. I prefer the RNC and 527’s do that work anyway. Like Hillary, McCain is also up against the media, an information (truthful or not) source that is available 24/7 and hard to overcome.

    The BHO has had the media in its pocket since day one.

    One might ask why there was such a big push to get Hillary out of the running before millions ever voted? It wasn’t that she was bad for the country! It was because the media put enough doubt in voters minds and the dnc gave the nomination to BHO.
    They can’t do this to McCain so they paint him as old, angry, erratic thereby putting doubt in peoples minds of his sanity.

    One step further the disgusting way media has portayed Palin is that she is a woman without brains, totally dismissing that she became a governor. It resonates because society already dismisses women as less than men.

    This election is not about leadership as it should be it is about who is more fvked up than the other.

  404. Voter fraud alert: Houseful of out-of-state Obama activists registered as Ohio voters, received absentee ballots

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/more-obama-voter-fraud-in-ohio-caught/

    I strongly recommend that the Ohio Republican Party get on the case before it’s too late. Today’s the last day to challenge voters who registered early in Ohio before the run up to Election Day.

    Here’s the stench: An entire houseful of young, non-Ohioan Democrat activists have used the Brownlee Avenue address to register themselves to vote in the Buckeye State and secure absentee ballots under extremely shady circumstances — all while mobilizing a large effort to register thousands of others for absentee and early voting. The activists are leaders of a group called “Vote From Home ‘08.” The group is self-identified as having “extensive experience with political organizing, election administration, and Democratic politics.” They were hailed as the “Justice League” by a Daily Kos blogger. Their Facebook page brags: “Want to turn the Presidential election blue in a key swing state? Vote from Home is a political organization that was founded by a team of young people for the purpose of assisting, aiding, and tracking voters to elect progressive candidates to the White House. Encouraged by the excitement of the 2008 elections and the movement around the Democratic candidates, Vote From Home will be in Ohio seeking to deliver 10,000 votes to Democratic candidates statewide.”

    My friends at Palestra.net, a network of young reporters who have been doing the voter and registration fraud reporting that the MSM has been slow to do, have a breaking investigative report on how several members of the Democrat Vote From Home team — all Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright, and Truman Scholars studying abroad — are turning up on Franklin County voter rolls despite having no bona fide residence in Ohio and admittedly having little to no knowledge about the state before descending on it in August to sign up other new voters in a rush to put 10,000 Obama supporters on the rolls.

  405. Here is a simple question for Obama’s robots and support base:

    If Obama is indeed the “chosen one” then why do you have to lie, cheat and steal your way to getting him elected? Why do you have to corrupt the registration process, corrupt the popular vote so that the real winner (HILLARY!!!) isn’t the candidate, deface public property, threaten those with opposing views, and worst of all…use the race card over and over again?

    If Obama is indeed the “chosen one” then why isn’t he a shoe-in?

  406. Until the M.O. phone call is confirmed as legitimate, I wish admin would do a clean-up on aisle five and delete the posts that go into detail about it. No offense to the posters in question.

  407. John Kerry came to Madison, Wisconsin and less than 250 showed up
    —————————————-
    If I had known about this I would have shown up. Somebody needed to bring the rotten tomatoes.

  408. If I were McCain and the RNC, I would let off a bomb the afternoon before BHO 1/2 hr media buy on 10/29. this way BHO won’t have time to prepare his response

  409. Mm. Imo unconfirned reports should include a disclaimer. However it can be good to discuss them while they’re hot. Otherwise the other side gets to define the dialog etc. Also, discussing something may get it confirmed one way or another.

  410. idiots would have you believe that republicans are racist, but please do your homework bots. It was the republicans who fought against slavery…not the democrats. the south was democrat for a lot longer than it was ever republican and they fought any attempt to abolish slavery. If you guys think the root of racial oppression belongs to republicans…you are seriously misinformed.

    …point your racist finger at yourselves.

  411. TDO,

    Agreed.
    As far as I can tell no one on this blog has said it’s true and most have indicated it’s still unconfirmed.

  412. Debbie: I had the same reaction and just had to send him a note conveying the high regard I have for his journalistic abilties.
    ———————————————-

    Dear Sir

    The only thing I have to judge you by is this article. Shallow in terms of understanding and biased in terms of theme it is a paradigmatic example of everything that is wrong with journalism in this election. It is sewage.

    If this is the best you can do as a jounalist, then you should consider some other line of work. Sanitary engineering is one possibility but it is probably beyond your skill set.

    wb

    Clue: those two books were ghost written for him and they tell you only what he wants you to know. If you want to know more then do as Ben Hogan suggested when some upstart asked the hawk for a golf lesson: dig it out of the ground like I did.

  413. Dear Sir

    The only thing I have to judge you by is this article. Shallow in terms of understanding and biased in terms of theme it is a paradigmatic example of everything that is wrong with journalism in this election. It is sewage.

    If this is the best you can do as a jounalist, then you should consider some other line of work. Sanitary engineering is one possibility but it is probably beyond your skill set.

    wb

    Clue: those two books were ghost written for him and they tell you only what he wants you to know. If you want to know more then do as Ben Hogan suggested when he was asked for a golf lesson: dig it out of the ground like I did.

  414. Re Michelle story at API, why would they invent this phone call? She said nothing we don’t already know. After reading this report and other news items on the site, it seems authentic to me, albeit, hardly worth fussing about.

    Idunn says she doesn’t think Michelle is that dumb. I don’t think Michelle is not all that bright. I read her Princeton thesis.

  415. Dmitriy Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 3:37 am

    Barack Hussein Obama’s 90 day moratorium is disgusting. It was Hillary’s idea. And if he is admitting what all of us have been saying all along, that her policies were better why the heck do we have this empty suit representing our party
    ==========================

    Yes. What did Obama know and when did he know it — that Hillary was right, her policies are best.

  416. correct: “I don’t think Michelle is not all that bright” to I don’t think Michelle is all that bright

  417. This is a little presumptive. It reminds of when he went to Europe, I was eating dinner at a local family place here in Tampa and an old man was talking to his grown son, the SOB, goes to Germany and elects himself president. The dems think this will help them win the election, arrogance, they might want to let us vote first. On the other hand, some dems might think oh we’ve won, I don’t have to go vote now. Personally I don’t agree with another stimulus package of primarily giving more money to people who don’t even pay taxes, the last two really didn’t stimulate the economy all that much, especially as he raises business taxes. McCain’s plan is much better, cutting capital gains tax in half, that will flood the market with dollars.
    ——–
    Obama’s first 100 days start early
    By Jared Allen
    Posted: 10/14/08 07:48 PM [ET]
    Three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is going through something of a dress rehearsal for his first 100 days in office.

    Buoyed by a slew of recent polls showing that the economy has boosted Obama (Ill.) and Democrats in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders in Congress are aggressively posturing to steamroll Republicans over the economy in the coming weeks.

    Obama’s unveiling of an economic recovery package on Monday that was closely coordinated with leaders on Capitol Hill amid the nation’s financial crisis represented a passing of the torch for the Democratic Party.

    In the wake of its devastating 2004 electoral losses, the Democratic Party was scrambling for its identity. After Democrats grabbed control of Congress two years later, the faces of the party became House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). Now, following a bitter primary and concerns raised in Democratic circles about their candidate’s experience, the party is sold on Obama — much more than it was on Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) four years ago……..

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/first-100-days-start-early-2008-10-14.html

  418. lil ole grape Says: I don’t think Michelle is all that bright
    ============

    Sounds like Michelle’s style to me. Maybe she was druink. Maybe she thought a Black publication would cover up for her, she could let it all hang out.

    I hope they made a tape. That’s a long statement to remember without one. And I hope they sent plenty of copies around….

  419. debbie Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 11:02 am
    by the way George Wallace was a democrat

    lil ole grape Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 11:07 am
    And Lincoln was a Republican.

    —–
    So was Martin Luther King, a tidbit most Americans don’t know. No black person in the 50s belonged to the democrat party, then they were the party of Jim Crow laws, they created the KKK (senator Byrd had a prominent roll in the KKK and he is still in the senate), it was the republican party that pushed equality and desegredation. And yet for some reason most African Americans think the democrat party has always been the party of African Americans, that didn’t happen until the much much later.

  420. turndown,

    I hope that this conversation really did happen and that it is verified soon. Until then, the less I say, the less I will be sorry for…lol… 😉

  421. ACORN – too little control to help for the general election. Most of these are criminal acts and should be prosecuted to the fullest, but will be forgotten after the election and the 2012 election, if we are not under a police state should nObama steal this election, will be even more full of such criminal acts.
    How does it feel Indiana, Ohio and other states where your vote may be discounted by fraud? There seems to be no one in Central FL talking about how our votes did not count, then were counted half a vote, were reinstated then were stolen by the DNC for nObama.

  422. wbboei Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 10:04 am
    =-====
    Concerning the violence on Nov 5 if Obama loses, didn’t someone post something about military being set up here for the first time in history, and someone wondered if it had anything to do with a McCain Oct surprise?? That was several posts back, there was a link, but now I wonder if it isn’t just a precaution just in case Obama loses.

  423. Hillguy – re: Michelle Whitedove – I get the feeling she’s a PUMA – it’s the use of the word “fairytale” which makes it a little subtle tiny snark.

  424. on hillbuzz via michellemalkin (front page): (excerpt)

    Voter fraud alert: Houseful of out-of-state Obama activists registered as Ohio voters, received absentee ballots
    By Michelle Malkin • October 15, 2008 04:09 AM

    Something smells at 2885 Brownlee Avenue in Columbus, Ohio.

    I strongly recommend that the Ohio Republican Party get on the case before it’s too late. Today’s the last day to challenge voters who registered early in Ohio before the run up to Election Day.

    Here’s the stench: An entire houseful of young, non-Ohioan Democrat activists have used the Brownlee Avenue address to register themselves to vote in the Buckeye State and secure absentee ballots under extremely shady circumstances — all while mobilizing a large effort to register thousands of others for absentee and early voting. The activists are leaders of a group called “Vote From Home ‘08.” The group is self-identified as having “extensive experience with political organizing, election administration, and Democratic politics.” They were hailed as the “Justice League” by a Daily Kos blogger. Their Facebook page brags: “Want to turn the Presidential election blue in a key swing state? Vote from Home is a political organization that was founded by a team of young people for the purpose of assisting, aiding, and tracking voters to elect progressive candidates to the White House. Encouraged by the excitement of the 2008 elections and the movement around the Democratic candidates, Vote From Home will be in Ohio seeking to deliver 10,000 votes to Democratic candidates statewide.”

    My friends at Palestra.net, a network of young reporters who have been doing the voter and registration fraud reporting that the MSM has been slow to do, have a breaking investigative report on how several members of the Democrat Vote From Home team — all Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright, and Truman Scholars studying abroad — are turning up on Franklin County voter rolls despite having no bona fide residence in Ohio and admittedly having little to no knowledge about the state before descending on it in August to sign up other new voters in a rush to put 10,000 Obama supporters on the rolls.

  425. the story about MO is the API website. I would suspect if it was untrue, they would have come out and denounced it.

    true or not there is nothing overtly revealing about anything she has said. I doubt media will say it is anything more than a spouse standing up for her husband,granted a presidential candidate but nothing more.

  426. This Sarah Palin is inciting violence and the “kill him” remark is getting on my nerves. National Review and others have pointed out that in the audio Sarah is talking about William Ayers, who I think we can safely compare to Timothy McVay and Osama Bin Laden, except he got off on a technicality, when someone in the crowd yelled that. There was no discussion of Obama at that time. This is a total lie, and no one, not even fox news is pointing it out, although I wrote them and asked them to please correct Bob Beckel next time he tried to sell that line, that’s total bunk. This is making me so angry I want to scream. While Obama suporters are throwing bombs and vandilizing property and what they are doing to Sarah is just unbelievable.

  427. Remember me posting waaay back in the primaries that the nObama youth were threatening violence and disowning their own mothers if their “righteous” candidate failed to get the nomination or failed in the general election?
    They threatened to disown their own mothers if they perceived nObama did not win against Hillary due to the senior [put politely] women. They threatened civil war if nObama was not selected in the primary. They threatened revolution if nObama somehow did not get the general election. Then, they went on to say that there was to be a revolution if nObama did win the general election.
    If you look at events that have unfolded, especially the Jesse Jackson statement while out of the country and nObama’s promise to redistribute the wealth [which would effectively be considered reparations] it seems clear to me. I believe them.
    Also HillGuy’s quote of Michelle Whitedove says in recent days, evidently:
    Here is her most recent update:
    “…psychically I see that America is headed for an unprecedented upset.

    [snip]

    – With every fiber of my being, I know that there is a major event looming either:

    A) A US government plot which will be 911-like, with Bush claiming a state of emergency thus suspending and postponing the election and self imposing his dictatorship.
    B) Another stolen election.
    C) Some other huge upset like the stock market collapse.
    D) An assassination”

    Well, B looming large as an inevitability and C has already happened. Will there be more.

    With all said and done, my heart bleeds for Hillary, Bill and Chesea. I can not fanthom what Hillary’s mother must be enduring right now.

  428. jan,

    I guess different people draw the line in different directions. I won’t touch sex scandals even if true — especially gay ones.

    But this Michelle thing sounds very much in character for her. And why would a Black news organization make it up? Sure, label it as spec till proven….

  429. Dear Sir

    The only thing I have to judge you by is this article. Shallow in terms of understanding and biased in terms of theme it is a paradigmatic example of everything that is wrong with journalism in this election. It is sewage.

    If this is the best you can do as a jounalist, then you should consider some other line of work. Sanitary engineering is one possibility but it is probably beyond your skill set.

    wb

    Clue: those two books were ghost written for him and they tell you only what he wants you to know. If you want to know more then do as Ben Hogan suggested when someone asked for a golf lesson: dig it out of the ground like I did.

  430. Bill looked fantastic with Bush Sr, last night on “Greta”. I cry when I see what our party has done to this man and Hillary. The democratic party no longer exists imo.

  431. Debbie: I published a blistering retort to that writer at the chicago sun times who accused mccain of racism. Three times I tried to post it here mostly for your amusement. For some reason it did not take. But I would venture to guess that by now we have not only a headless cockroach (McCaskill) but a headless bot writer as well (that writer) in which case the cosmic balance has been restored.

  432. Concerning the violence on Nov 5 if Obama loses, didn’t someone post something about military being set up here for the first time in history, and someone wondered if it had anything to do with a McCain Oct surprise?? That was several posts back, there was a link, but now I wonder if it isn’t just a precaution just in case Obama loses.
    ——————————————–
    win or lose it could happen. the vj day riot in 1945 was to celebrate victory over japan but the people who were damaged by it were damaged just the same. The country is not particularly stable at this point due to bambi and big media. I have underestimated these kinds of contingencies in the past, and have since learned to prepare for them.

  433. jbstonesfan:

    i loved Bill too last night with Bush Sr – I didn’t know Bush was walking with a cane now. it was nice to see both of them work together for a good cause.

  434. wbboei

    I am very unhappy that our media has been a tool for radical left wing politics. I’ve always supported the rights of free speech and I would be the first to fight against any censorship. However, I know I am not alone when I express my concern for the extremes we have seen in this election, and the distortions and misrepresentations offered as fact.
    I will say this till I’m blue in the face, public financing of elections will put the elections back in the hands of the voters and get the media influence out.

    Please folks after this election make this a priority!!!

  435. i have to say, the press’ reaction seems like all the bots who are infused with the kool-aid. no matter what, they can’t allow themselves to see the fraud for who he is. they will always come up with some angle to defend him even if the facts are in their face.

  436. jbstone I saw that interview too, I thought they both looked great, and I liked what Gretta had to say about them on her blog, about how both are great men, once you transcend politics, and the funniest part, they have become good friends.

  437. Barrack HUSSUEIN Obama is a BIG PHONY….I don’t really understand why Americans will not wake up…Everything he said, they believed him…This is outrageous and I can not believe this is happening here in this great land….

    If this MESSIAH wins the election, everything will be different….

  438. talking about money in the media now on FOX, this is what I’m talking about when it comes to buying the media influence.

  439. I think they both will have very kind words to say about her….and the country can once again see two inept candidates and the real pro sitting cool, calm, and collected.

  440. Well i never

    CNN busts massive Obama/ACORN voter fraud in Pennsylvania

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/cnn-busts-massive-obamaacorn-voter-fraud-in-pennsylvania/

  441. October 14, 2008, 6:53 pm
    Clinton Supporters Aid Palin
    By Michael Luo
    Gov. Sarah Palin met with a group of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s former supporters Tuesday evening at a special fund-raising reception organized for them on behalf of the Republican ticket.

    The reception, which organizers said brought in more than $500,000, was part of an extended evening of fund-raising for Ms. Palin and Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign at the Grand Hyatt in New York that officials estimated raised more than $8 million.

    Ms. Palin, along with her husband, Todd, mingled and posed for pictures with the group of about 20, before appearing at the larger finance event, which McCain campaign officials said was the last time Mr. McCain would personally appear at a fund-raiser before the election. It was also the first time the pair had appeared together for donors.

    More than 1,000 people paid $1,000 each for tickets to the main fund-raiser. Nearly 250 people who contributed $25,000 got dinner beforehand with Mr. McCain.

    The reception for former Clinton supporters, which also was attended by Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, was spearheaded by Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a former telecommunications entrepreneur and “Hillraiser” who brought in more than $100,000 for Mrs. Clinton’s campaign; Calvin Fayard, also a former Hillraiser and longtime Democratic donor from Louisiana, and Miguel Lausell, a former senior political adviser to the Clinton campaign from Puerto Rico.

    Other prominent former Clinton supporters in attendance included John Coale, a former Hillraiser, Washington lawyer and husband of Fox News television host Greta Van Susteren.

    Everyone at the reception contributed $28,500 to McCain-Palin Victory 2008, a joint fund-raising committee for the Republican National Committee and several state Republican parties.

    While Mrs. Clinton has implored her former supporters to back Senator Barack Obama, some still harbor ill will towards him, organizers said.

    “These people want to give their vote of disapproval,” said Mr. Lausell. “This is a way they’re doing it.”

  442. of course the market is sliding down again……..tonight is the debate and topic #1 “economy”

    I totally believe our economy is being manipulated to aid the democrats

    I hope BHO is prepared for Ayers to be thrown in his face tonight(& he is)
    and i hope he does!/…but i sure would like to see BIG MAC hit him with something new and different
    that the media hasn’t discussed yet “a big october surprise issue”……..wouldn’t that be the ultimate smackdown! hit him with a left hook when he’s expecting a right hook 😀

  443. I am starting to really like Sarah Palin.

    GALLIPOLIS, OH — Gallipolis Wal-Mart shoppers were at first surprised and then excited on Sunday to find a national political figure in their midst who was, just as they were, picking up a few things she needed.

    Accompanied by her youngest son Trig, security, staffers and a small pool of news media, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin stepped off the “Straight Talk Express” bus to enter the store around 1:30 p.m., where she purchased a bag of Parents’ Choice brand disposable diapers and a toy.

    But it was also an opportunity for the first-term Alaska governor to meet the public at large and win some votes for the ticket on which she’s running with the GOP White House nominee, U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

    Palin did not have time to answer questions from the media following her trip through southeastern Ohio, but left some folks exhilirated at meeting her.

    “It was so exciting,” said Pat Miller of Patriot, accompanied by her daughter Amber, a student at South Gallia High School. “She seemed to be very sweet, and if she could stop and take the time to buy some diapers for her son, it tells you that for her, family is first.”…
    “She really cares about people with special needs and she’s not afraid to stand up to big business,” he added.

    “She was really down to earth,” Ashley Fisher said. “There was no ego and she treated us with respect, which sometimes you don’t get from political people.”

    http://www.mydailysentinel.com/articles/2008/10/13/news/news00.txt

  444. I will say this till I’m blue in the face, public financing of elections will put the elections back in the hands of the voters and get the media influence out.
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    I can think of no better reason to elect McCain. He will save our democracy whereas Obama will destroy it-sure as the earth turns.

  445. Hillary is coming to the debate, WOW, why would she want to do that?? I guess they have made her do that!
    Surely the republicans are going to go after this man, I can’t understand why they aren’t unless of coarse they’ve been told who is supposed to win!

  446. peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Press_Release_08_10_10.htm

    Averting a Crisis in Confidence; Citizen files Lawsuit Against Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

    Seattle WA. 10/9/2008 — Steven Marquis, a resident of Fall City WA today filed suit in Washington State Superior Court against Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

    The complaint seeks specifically that the office of the Washington Secretary of State verify and certify that Mr. Obama is or is not a “natural born” citizen by producing original or certified verifiable official documents. The lawsuit argues that this certification should take place before the election to preclude a constitutional crisis and likely civil unrest should such certification, after the election, prove that Mr. Obama was not qualified for office.

    The Complaint argues that the Secretary of State has the authority and duty to not only certify the voters but also and most importantly the candidates and in so doing prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of voters who would had had an opportunity to choose from qualified candidates had the certification preceded the election process.

    At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records. The Hawaii Health Department has violated Federal law by ignoring formal Freedom of Information requests for the same. Due to the facts and numerous other allegations that would challenge Mr. Obama’s fundamental qualifications for office, a Federal lawsuit was filed and is currently being heard in District Court, Pennsylvania.

    Mr. Obama failed to respond to the District Court’s request to produce or allow access to the official documents (should they exist) and instead filed a motion to dismiss arguing the Plaintiff had no “standing” or right to know. This non-response as of 9/24/2008 in Federal court casts doubt on the veracity of the electoral system and is the principal reason for this lawsuit. The late entry of this suit is due in principal part to Mr. Obama’s delay and subsequent non response to reasonable request for valid certificates. Multiple requests for early certification to the Office of the Secretary of State has been rejected.

    [clarification: The district court process itself demands a response from Mr. Obama. When a complaint is filed, the defendant has an opportunity to respond to the judge regarding the plaintiffs request for a preliminary injunction. Obama did respond, but not with the requested documentation, not even minimally so. He responded with a motion for dismissal based on “standing” rather than the merits of the case]

    The Washington Secretary of State Office is specifically charged with certifying and guaranteeing the veracity of official documents and overseeing the elections to wit the people’s confidence in the fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this regard, Secretary of State Sam Reed has not carried out that fundamental duty.

    This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which formal complaints have been received.

    Interested Parties may contact Plaintive as follows:
    Contact: Steve Marquis
    Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
    Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
    Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html

  447. Obama according to our abc news, is 14 pts ahead of McCain. They say no one ever has comeback from that kind of lead. Come on republicans you can do it, let them have it!

  448. peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Press_Release_08_10_10.htm

    Averting a Crisis in Confidence; Citizen files Lawsuit Against Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

    Seattle WA. 10/9/2008 — Steven Marquis, a resident of Fall City WA today filed suit in Washington State Superior Court against Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

    The complaint seeks specifically that the office of the Washington Secretary of State verify and certify that Mr. Obama is or is not a “natural born” citizen by producing original or certified verifiable official documents. The lawsuit argues that this certification should take place before the election to preclude a constitutional crisis and likely civil unrest should such certification, after the election, prove that Mr. Obama was not qualified for office.

    The Complaint argues that the Secretary of State has the authority and duty to not only certify the voters but also and most importantly the candidates and in so doing prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of voters who would had had an opportunity to choose from qualified candidates had the certification preceded the election process.

    At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records. The Hawaii Health Department has violated Federal law by ignoring formal Freedom of Information requests for the same. Due to the facts and numerous other allegations that would challenge Mr. Obama’s fundamental qualifications for office, a Federal lawsuit was filed and is currently being heard in District Court, Pennsylvania.

    Mr. Obama failed to respond to the District Court’s request to produce or allow access to the official documents (should they exist) and instead filed a motion to dismiss arguing the Plaintiff had no “standing” or right to know. This non-response as of 9/24/2008 in Federal court casts doubt on the veracity of the electoral system and is the principal reason for this lawsuit. The late entry of this suit is due in principal part to Mr. Obama’s delay and subsequent non response to reasonable request for valid certificates. Multiple requests for early certification to the Office of the Secretary of State has been rejected.

    [clarification: The district court process itself demands a response from Mr. Obama. When a complaint is filed, the defendant has an opportunity to respond to the judge regarding the plaintiffs request for a preliminary injunction. Obama did respond, but not with the requested documentation, not even minimally so. He responded with a motion for dismissal based on “standing” rather than the merits of the case]

    The Washington Secretary of State Office is specifically charged with certifying and guaranteeing the veracity of official documents and overseeing the elections to wit the people’s confidence in the fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this regard, Secretary of State Sam Reed has not carried out that fundamental duty.

    This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which formal complaints have been received.a

  449. Obama according to our abc news, is 14 pts ahead of McCain. They say no one ever has comeback from that kind of lead. Come on republicans you can do it, let them have it!
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    ABC News in a later poll says Obama is 1200 points ahead of mccain with a margin of error of 1300. No one has ever come back from a 1200 point deficit to win the election. Their sampling includes martians, tin foil hat people, bill oreilly and Odinga followers when they are not too busy killing Christians. Soros voted 8 times.

  450. ever watch any sport that the score has changed in the last minutes of the game?

    why are you guys so depressed. It’s like Hillary all over again, everyone wanted her to give up…but the game wasn’t over and by all accounts…SHE WON

  451. Another worker charged with falsifying voter forms

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=806218

    State prosecutors charged a former voter registration worker Tuesday with falsifying 54 registration forms — including one for a dead voter, one for a prisoner and one for Journal Sentinel columnist Eugene Kane.

    Frank Walton, 29, of Oak Creek is the third voter registration worker in three weeks to face charges. Like the others, he was paid by the Community Voters Project, one of several politically liberal organizations that launched massive voter registration drives in Milwaukee in advance of the Nov. 4 election.

  452. This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which formal complaints have been received.a
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    Reed strikes me as a good public servant. He has been active in pursuing ACORN fraud. There is little time left however. Why everyone has waited this long is a mystery to me.

  453. Palin sees similarities between NH, Alaska
    Wednesday, October 15 | 9:23 a.m.

    The Associated Press
    Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she feels a kinship with New Hampshire based on a shared love of moose hunting and low taxes.

    At a rally Wednesday, the Alaska governor said New Hampshire’s state motto, “Live Free or Die,” would be a good motto for her state, which is the only state other than New Hampshire with neither a general income nor a general sales tax.

    She repeated her claim that Barack Obama would raise taxes and said there are two kinds of people in New Hampshire: the good people of New Hampshire and those who moved from Massachusetts to escape higher taxes.

    Palin’s making her first trip to the state that launched John McCain to the GOP presidential nomination but where he now trails Obama in polls.

    http://www.columbian.com/article/20081015/APP/810150869
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    ROTFL!!!

    I love how the media thinks American voters are going to be defeated by these slanted polls. In fact keep repeating the mantra that Obama is running away in the polls…many people lie to pollsters because their vote is private.

  454. One of the tasks given to Hercules by the gods was to clean up the fabled Agean Stables where the horses of the gods were kept. The task proved to be a daunting one because the horses could shit faster than Hercules could clean it up. Voter fraud by ACORN relies on the same principle.

  455. Hmm…Ahead by 14 pts? Who did they interview? AA’s, young people, dead people, creative class, voters with multiple registrations? I don’t think this poll is accurate, by any stretch of the imagination. The media, a legend in their own minds.

  456. carbynew said:

    ROTFL!!!

    I love how the media thinks American voters are going to be defeated by these slanted polls. In fact keep repeating the mantra that Obama is running away in the polls…many people lie to pollsters because their vote is private.
    *****

    I love how some polls are saying they are getting 80% hangups. Good sign. If I were asked, I’d probably either hang up or say I’m voting third party when I’m not…hehehe.

  457. Republicans and Democrats rally in Richmond
    Marty Van Duyne 15.OCT.08

    Anna Wilhite from Hanover county had her wheelchair all decked out in red, white and blue when she joined her children and grandchildren at the Palin rally to show support for the Republican ticket.

    Richmond, Va. — It was a busy holiday weekend in Richmond for both Republican and Democratic presidential campaign teams.

    On Sunday night, former President Bill Clinton stumped for the Democratic Obama – Biden ticket at Virginia Commonwealth University. And on Monday Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin held a rally at Richmond International Raceway.

    Bill Clinton stumps for Democrats

    With the strains of “Don’t stop thinking about tomorrow” blaring from loudspeakers, a crowd over spilled the Commons Plaza several hours in advance of Clinton’s arrival.

    College students and other citizens of all ages and demographics arrived in mass to show their support of Presidential candidate Sen. Barak Obama and Vice Presidential Candidate Sen. Joe Biden.

    The crowd estimated to be more than 3,000 consisted of many college students that had come to hear the words of the charismatic former leader. Invited by a campus student group, Clinton was lauded as being an inspiration to the young people that coordinated the event.

    Arriving more than one hour prior to his scheduled 9:30 p.m. show time, Clinton paid tribute to his wife and former Presidential hopefully Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying she had made 50 presentations for the Obama –Biden team.

    The former president focused his presentation on the economy and addressed how the economic downturn affected college students, and assured the students that a Democratic leadership would remedy the current crisis so that they would be able to continue their education.

    He stressed that his administration left the country with a largest monetary surplus ever recorded and the current administration has brought the country into the largest deficit ever recorded.

    Clinton said the team of Obama and Biden would pull the country out of the current financial crisis.

    Speaking of Obama, he said. “He’s got the best plan on finances, the best plan on energy, the best plan on education, and the best plan on health care.”

    Amidst cheers from the throng, Clinton walked from side to side along the front of the stage and reached out to personally greet his supporters, as rock music blared from the loudspeakers. But even after he left the area, the excitement he created kept many Obama – Biden supporters gathered on the commons discussing his appearance.

    Sarah Palin Rallies

    Republican Vice Presidential candidate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was at Richmond International Raceway on Monday afternoon. A rally previously scheduled at the Arthur Ashe Center was rescheduled last Friday afternoon due to an overwhelming response.

    Temperatures started to creep up into the 80’s early in the day as patriotic music including songs for each branch of military service filled the air. And as a line of attendees about 10 wide snaked all the way back to Gate 4, the strains of “Don’t stop believing” blared from the speakers, followed by a selection of country music tunes.

    With about 25,000 Palin fans and supporters crowding the venue, security closed the gates to the stage area more than one hour prior to her arrival. When the remaining line of people was freed to gather around fence, they kicked up so much dried dirt as they raced across the field that the cloud of dust surrounding them resembled a Buffalo stampede.

    Hank Williams, Jr. kicked off the rally with a spoof on his song “Family Tradition” which got an already excited crowd more hyped up for Palin’s speech.

    Like her opponents in the race for the White House, Palin stayed focused on the economy, the energy crisis, and health care. She espoused expanding drilling and mining programs to remedy the energy crisis and was greeted with the crowd alternately chanting “mine, baby, mine” and “drill, baby drill.”

    With her own child diagnosed with Downs, Palin touted support for those less fortunate saying that we must provide the best care and support for those that are the least able to care for themselves.

    And she received a rousing cheer from the crowd when she addressed national security saying, “Just once I’d like to hear Obama say I’d like America to win.”

    With music still filing the air an excited crowd mobbed the candidate as she personally greeted her supporters. And several hundred still filled the bleachers to cheer her on as the Straight Talk Express pulled out of the parking lot.

    http://www.journalpress.com/default.asp?
    sourceid=&smenu=189&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=5534&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1139&hn=journalpress&he=.com

  458. 14 points my ass, and this is with Dem Bias of 6 to 12%, Gallup says its basically a tie now.

    Gallup Likely Voters – Obama 49 McCain 46 (traditional methods)

    The “traditional” likely voter model, which Gallup has employed for past elections, factors in prior voting behavior as well as current voting intention. This has generally shown a closer contest, though with Obama still ahead. Today’s results show Obama with a three-point advantage over McCain using this likely voter model, 49% to 46%. That is slightly closer than the average five-point advantage for Obama among traditional likely voters since Gallup began measuring them last week. — Jeff Jones

  459. wbboei
    “Why everyone has waited this long is a mystery to me.”

    I’d like to think there is something strategic going on here. The push to discredit BHO about his judgement and associations seems to be the central theme of the republicans. I believe it will work. Ultimately in uncertain times, people will reject change for the security of the known even if it is not comfortable. This might play right into the hands of McCain after all. I still say that the republicans have something up their sleeve. guess I’ll wait and see.

    I give no credence to the polls and it’s beyond me why everyone wants to cite them here.

  460. Personally, I do not care whether Hillary attends the debate tonight. By now her supporters have made their choices. Therefore, whatever she says and does between now and November 4 will have no real impact on this election. For that reason I try not to dwell on it.

    The most important thing is that McCain do what Admin suggests. Admin is the finest political strategist I have ever seen in any election for either party, present campaigns included. Admins advice is the path to victory. Whether McCain purses such an approach however remains to be seen.

  461. Anytime, you’re feeling blue, fearful that O is going to win, go to Hillbuzz and read or reread the Eeyore article – it’s so good.

    Phone banking for McCain will also make you feel good – not that it’s fun, God knows! – but afterwards, it’s so great to know you’re actually DOING something to help the cause you care about instead of just hunching over the keyboard, worrying and wondering.

    Lynn Forester says, “thank you for putting your country before your party in supporting John McCain. We really need your help, please go to citizens.johnmccain.com/citizens.htm and make some calls. We need to do this for our country. If you do this before the debate, you can also encourage people to watch it, and certainly the …what’s happening here? dunno if this is going to post…ce

  462. confloyd Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    Obama according to our abc news, is 14 pts ahead of McCain. They say no one ever has comeback from that kind of lead. Come on republicans you can do it, let them have it!
    &&&&&&&&&

    I lovvvve to know how that was sampled. Everyone else shows the race tightening. Yesterday, realclearpolitics showed the average, which included skewing by the most prObamaish ones, was 7%.

    The tactic is clear. Everywhere, MSM is declaring this essentially over. “McCain needs a GAME CHANGER tonight”. “It’s unclear what else McCain can do to overcome Obama’s towering advantages”.

    Shut the f-up.

    DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!

  463. Sarah Palin Draws Large and Enthusiastic Crowd at Rally in North Carolina

    By Willoughby, published Oct 15, 2008
    Crowd Estimated at 8-10,000 Cheer on Alaskan Governor

    Greensboro, North Carolina — As the large crowd outside of Minges Area on the campus of East Carolina University continued to grow in anticipation of a chance to see Gov. Sarah Palin, chants of “Sarah, Sarah” began to fill the air. Palin was scheduled to speak at 7 p.m., but the auditorium was filled by 6:30 and those who could not get inside waited in hopes of catching a glimpse of the Republican nominee for vice president.

    They were not disappointed. Arriving about 7 p.m., she stepped from her vehicle and ignited the crowd by smiling and waving enthusiastically to them for several minutes before entering the auditorium.

    Sitting inside the auditorium, we could tell the minute she arrived as the crowd yelled an even louder: “SARAH, SARAH.” As one student seated next to me commented, it had the feel of a student pep rally, only louder and more enthusiastic.

    Nearly one half-hour later, the crowd was joined on stage by Senators Elizabeth Dole and Richard Burr, North Carolina’s two Republican senators.

    It was Burr who introduced Palin as a “gun-totin’ Mama” to wild and seemingly unending cheers from those in attendance. They had waited long enough to see her and went absolutely wild with her appearance. Palin, red-faced and smiling, waved to the cheering crowd who loved her on first sight.

    The cheering and applause continued for at least five minutes as a smiling Palin made several attempts to begin her prepared remarks, but the audience would not quit until they had delivered their welcome message.

    She began her remarks by criticizing Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden as claiming to be agents of change but who dwell on nothing but the past. She said the Democrats often attempted to link her and John McCain to the Bush administration.

    “For a campaign that claims to be looking to the future they spend a lot of time talking about the past,” she said.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1109777/sarah_palin_draws_large_and_enthusiastic.html?cat=8
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    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has nobody to blame but themselves and Team Obama into making Palin a Republican superstar. By trying to destroy her all they did was to bring young people to her and make her popular Anti-N.O.W. Feminist but choice most females can relate to.

    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has lost their dominance to the WOMEN Voters…now we have a choice and it’s about time the love is spread around.

    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY thought they OWNED us and TOOK OUR VOTES FOR GRANTED, those sexist male dominated party had no intention of letting HILLARY CLINTON lead the party. NO intention at all in giving her a fair shot…it was always going to stay in the MEN control.

    I thank the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY for showing them how little respect or value they see in my support for the party. As LONG as WOMEN don’t support other talented women and still fight over the crumbs or ROE vs WADE we will not see true full potentials of our daughters and granddaughters.

    Obama can plagerize other people ideas and plans all he wants because the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY is a bunch of CORRUPTED WEAK ASS, POWER HUNGRY BULLIES and SEXIEST ELITES.

    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY believes they can slip SOCIALISM and MARXISM under the table because that is how much they respect us poor middleclass workers.

    I believe in a safety net and I believe there is a role for government and that GWB has been a terrible bad president for this country…it’s call WEAK LEADERSHIP and what does the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban Party do?

    Give us another Bushlike person but from the LEFT in the Name of Obama.

  464. jbstonesfan Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 11:54 am
    Bill looked fantastic with Bush Sr, last night on “Greta”. I cry when I see what our party has done to this man and Hillary. The democratic party no longer exists imo.

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    hi, saw that interview too…and feel the same way…bill always manages to rise head and shoulders above all that have tried to destroy him…

    he never seems to get full recognition for all the good he does…he is taken for granted…there will never be another bill clinton…

    Obama completely lost me as soon as he started using Republican talking points against Hillary and Bill in the primaries…that did it for me and he showed what a corrupt opportunist he was starting then…

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    jb, i think you are in florida, thought you mentioned WPB…first, can you stand watching tv with obama on every single commercial break and if you turn channel there is the MIND CONTROL again…

    second, what do you think about Florida? I am in Broward…i do not know anyone supporting O…I cannot believe Florida will go for O, but there is a complete SATURATION of O on TV here…and I mean complete SATURATION…

    AND hardly and McCain response…

  465. I still say that the republicans have something up their sleeve. guess I’ll wait and see.
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    I have no crediblilty on this issue. I have been wrong about it for months. I thought they had a magic bullet. I thought they would fire it long before now. It did not happen. As a result I am skeptical. There are a number of issues that could derail his candidacy. We know what they are. Rezko, birth certificate, ACORN, Ayers. But my sense is they will not reach critical mass prior to this election. The powers that be will avoid these issues if they can. If McCain wins they go away and the elites do not have to deal with them. If he loses then they may deal with them after the election and before the nomination. In fact, that may be the agreement. I do not know. But a post election removal of Obama helps Biden but not Hillary. The bottom line is I do not know, and the more I think about it the more I realize this.

  466. Palin In NH: On Moose Hunting And Taxes
    DOVER, N.H. – Gov. Sarah Palin took her message to the first-in-the-nation primary state Wednesday where she likened AK’s tax policies and outdoor tradition with Granite State values.

    “We all love good moose hunting, I know that, and we both so enjoy our great lands: the clean water, and the fresh air, and the abundant wildlife and good fishing,” she told about 1,300 people at Dover High School.

    Palin noted both states’ opposition to income taxes, and said NH can serve as a microcosm for the rest of the country.

    “I hear here in Dover, there’s home to two kinds of people: the fine people of New Hampshire and the fine people of Massachusetts who got sick of paying all those taxes,” she said.

    While NH residents are familiar with the other three candidates in this race, Palin is a new face in a state accustomed to retail politicking. She used her first appearance here to remind voters of the fiscal discipline she imposed as governor.

    “I know people back home in Alaska, they know that you don’t have to tax people that much if you would cut down the federal government expenditures,” she said. “We know that to get our economy moving again, we must cut that wasteful spending and balance the budget and keep taxes low so that Americans can keep more of what they produce, what they earn, so they can reinvest in their priorities.”

    Palin acknowledged John McCain’s January victory in the Republican primary, which helped propel him to the party’s nomination, and she said McCain “has a history of overcoming the odds in this great state, and that is exactly what you can help us do on election day on Nov. 4.”

    Palin also acknowledged the death in Afghanistan yesterday of Cpl. Scott Diamond of Franklin, NH.

    “John McCain and I want his friends, his family to know that our thoughts and our prayers are with him today,” she said. “I know that you join me also in praying for comfort for this family. So thank you New Hampshire for honoring and supporting our military. Our hearts and our prayers go out to this family.”

    (NBC/NJ’s MATTHEW BERGER)
    hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/on_moose_huntin.html
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    I totally agree with Palin about taxes and reduce spending in a time of Economic stress. I don’t believe Obama will reduce taxes or fast pace Energy independence. I don’t trust the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY on this issue.

    I trust Hillary Clinton but she is on the outside of the party influence. I just do not see them utilizing the Clintons after the election. I just don’t see it.

    I do see them gong to the Clinton’s good will with the public to cover up their own tracks but I just don’t see the love for the Clinton with those who want to gain power. The people who want power are the hard left and they don’t want anything to do with the Clintons, they don’t trust them and look at them as the problem not the solution.

    They pretty much treated Hillary Clinton as a Republican and their views hasn’t changed much.

  467. McCain’s N.Y. Fund-Raiser Collects Record Amount
    By Michael Luo

    After all the checks come in, Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin will wind up collecting about $10.6 million from Tuesday night’s fund-raiser in New York, finance officials said.

    That is up from the more than $8 million campaign officials had initially cited Tuesday, and represents by far the campaign’s biggest haul from a single event, surpassing the $7 million collected at another fund-raiser in May in New York.

    Mr. McCain is taking public financing for the general election and is technically out of the private fund-raising business, but checks can still be written to McCain-Palin Victory 2008, which benefits the Republican National Committee and various state parties.

    More than 1,000 people paid $1,000 each for tickets to the main fund-raiser. Nearly 250 people who contributed $25,000 got dinner beforehand with Mr. McCain.

    The event on Tuesday night at the Grand Hyatt was Mr. McCain’s fourth and final appearance at a fund-raiser since the Republican national convention. The campaign raised roughly $4 million at each of the other events Mr. McCain headlined in Chicago, Miami and Los Angeles.

    McCain campaign fund-raisers have been exceeding their projections, raising $66 million in September for the R.N.C., but are still finding themselves being dramatically outspent on television by the Obama campaign, even factoring in independent expenditures from the party, puzzling many of the donors.

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/mccains-ny-fund-raiser-collects-record-amount/

  468. djia,

    It was hard to believe, but as you pointed out with this Youtube citation:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPQSZbUxgE

    Obama really does have his own flag. The arrogance of this guy is beyond belief. A big “O” on the flag? A triangle instead of a rectangle for the blue part? It’d be nice if the flag bore more of a resemblance to the American flag, but it really doesn’t.

    If Obama had any sense, he wouldn’t come up with his own presidential seal and his own flag. There’s no need for that. What is he thinking???!

  469. I am in Broward…i do not know anyone supporting O…I cannot believe Florida will go for O, but there is a complete SATURATION of O on TV here…and I mean complete SATURATION…

    AND hardly and McCain response…
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    Over exposure breeds contempt.

  470. wbboei

    I ask myself, are the republicans this stupid? I just don’t see it. But,it won’t be the first time I’m wrong.

  471. ACORN, SEIU, and the New Party joined at the hip in 2001 (Updated)
    October 15, 2008

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    Google 2001 churns out another oldie but goodie (h/t MP). RBO’s latest favorite legal term is ipse dixit. It certainly does.

    * ACORN – Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
    * AGAPE – Broadcasting Foundation, Inc.
    * AHC – ACORN Housing Corporation, Inc.
    * AHC OF IL – ACORN Housing Corporation of Illinois
    * AHC OF NY – New York ACORN Housing Company, Inc.
    * AHC OF PA – ACORN Housing Corporation of Pennsylvania
    * AISJ – American Institute for Social Justice
    * ALERT – ACORN Law for Representation & Training
    * ANP – Arkansas New Party
    * AR FAIR HOUSING ACHC – Arkansas ACORN FAIR HOUSING
    * HOTROC – Hospitality, Hotel, & Restaurant Organizing Council
    * INP – Illinois New Party
    * KABF – Arkansas Broadcasting Foundation, Inc.
    * KNON – Agape Broadcasting Foundation, Inc.
    * LOCAL 100 – Service Employees International Union, AFL-CIO, Local 100
    * LOCAL 880 – Service Employees International Union, AFL-CIO, Local 880
    * LA FAIR HOUSING – ACLA of LA Louisiana ACORN Fair Housing
    * MHANY – Mutual Housing Association of New York, Inc.
    * PROJECT VOTE – PROJECT VOTE Voting for America, Inc.

    Of all the groups on this list, the one that jumps out at us, though, is LOCAL 880. It rings an immediate bell!

    RBO has been compiling lists from those Illinois State Board of Elections files for Obama’s Friends of Obama PAC (political action committee). One of those contributors has fairly consistently been the ACORN-affiliated organization SEIU Local 880:

    SEIU Local 880 Political Fund, $250, 11/16/1995; $250, 7/8/1997; $500, 7/21/1998; $500, 10/15/1998; $1000, 1/20/2000; $500, 6/23/2000.

    In the 2008 election cycle, SEIU Local 880 has only contributed to one candidate — $5001 to Barack Obama.

    Two more organizations on this list grab our attention —

    ****go to link posted at the top to read the rest***

  472. While I don’t agree with some of the article points, I do love the cartoon at the top!

    features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/15/obamas-spending-how-much-on-ads/

  473. LOL…I did, Grape.

    Did you see the RBO pic of the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” monkey’s?

  474. djia Says:
    October 15th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    SEIU and AFL-CIO no longer are affliliated, they broke apart in 2005. Having said that, SEIU International and it’s affiliates have been holding hands with ACORN for a very long time.

    It is not surprising. I sent a note to FOX about the connection awhile ago.

    SEIU has given ACORN lots of bucks.

  475. I think it went like this:

    cbs…see no evil monkey
    abc…hear no evil moneky
    msbc…speak no evil monkey

    I nearly died laughing.

  476. wbboei

    I ask myself, are the republicans this stupid? I just don’t see it. But,it won’t be the first time I’m wrong
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    2+2=4 (except when there are other variables involved that we cannot see.)

  477. maria

    I was fooled by it too, but I am sure there are millions more that are also “not in the know” about what Ohio’s flag looks like
    and it will have an effect against BHO 😀

    BHO camp should have known that flag wouldn’t be recognized by many and that many would interpret that flag as a BHO flag just i did.

  478. texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

    Update 2: 10/15/08 12:40 PM ET: I’m receiving several reports (see the comment thread) that API claims to have audio tape of the conversation with Michelle Obama. Stay tuned…

  479. near fell off the chair

    Whoopi Goldberg Decries Anti-Palin Vitriol

    newsbusters.org/blogs/justin-mccarthy/2008/10/15/whoopi-goldberg-decries-anti-palin-vitriol

    Sarah Palin found an unlikely voice defending her from constant vicious attacks on the left, “View” co-host Whoopi Goldberg. On the October 15 edition, in sharing her experience meeting John McCain and Sarah Palin, Elisabeth Hasselbeck expressed regret about all of the hate the Alaska governor recieved and added, “she’s a good woman and regardless of what you think, she is.”

    Whoopi Goldberg surprisingly concurred noting past attacks on Hillary Clinton, decried such attacks on Sarah Palin observing a pattern of vitriol towards strong women. When Joy Behar attempted to play the equivocation game, holding Governor Palin responsible for words from one random supporter, Whoopi replied “that doesn’t justify crappy behavior from anybody.”Whoopi continued noting “everybody when you meet them as something redeeming.” Joy then retracted with a weak, “I’ll accept that.”

    If “The View” moderator did not surprise enough, she countered Joy when Joy blamed the “mess” on Bush and Republicans. Whoopi declared “all of Washington has a hand on this,” reminding Joy that Democrats controlled Congress for the last two years and neither party has “been able to get jack booty done.”

  480. There may not have to be a “game-changer” tonight or in the last 3 weeks.

    A “laundry list” may be enough. All those radical, anti-semitic, black liberation associations that Obama has to keep saying were just passing acquaintances. Then comes the question about who were his real influences? Who did he work with? If not Ayers, then who? Where are his moderate associations?

    The realization that Ayers, Wright, ACORN, CAC, etc etc may be it. Then the question to Obama is, Is that all there is? It just might be enough to make a voter pause.

    The rogue’s gallery of people with power if O is elected is daunting.

  481. If I was McCain, I’d rattle of a huge list of questionable people Obama hangs round with, and tell people to go look them up.

  482. If Woopie Golberg decides to run for congress and decides she needs a campaign manager I am available. A voice of reason and common sense in a sea of babble. Also, most important of all, a Hillary supporter. For me, the entire world is divided into two halves: those who supported Hillary (virtuous and well informed) and those who did not (ignorant or malicious).

  483. Idunn where’s RBO?

    Moon, I love Whoopi — glad to know she stood up for Palin and threw a dart at dems….The Associate! Jumpin Jack Flash, my favorites but I also watch the Sister Act movies now and then. Saw her Broadway debut years ago — God, she was magic!

  484. I like Whoopi until she went into her whole Koolaid period and then she pissed me off, seems she might have integrity after all.

  485. Long list of toxic associates do not cut the mustard. Most everyone has had toxic friends or associates at some chapter of their life. Hence, people rationalize it accordingly. The key is to show the number of times obama rewarded those friends at the expense of constituents. That is what makes toxic friends toxic to voters. Without that nexus people are inclined to say gee that is interesting and then make excuses. McCain needs to connect those dots.

  486. Moon, she, like all AAs in public eye are stuck somewhere east of the rock and west of the hard place, y’know? I cut her a break on the sip of kool-aid. I liked when she said wtf is this AA stuff?- I’m an American! Nothin’ African about me! I’m American. Period.

  487. Whoopi sounds like her Hillary supporting days are protecting her from the kool-aid.

    wbboei is right…the Hillary people, whether they support BO now or not, are sensible and fair, and the in-the-tank from the beginning BO supporters act like they’ve had labotomies.

  488. Regarding that API story about Michelle Obama saying BO was adopted.

    ADDED HERE BELOW DUE TO HUGE INTEREST ON THE ABOVE STORY. (TIME 16:08 Scandinavian time)

    Verification of the story:
    We have found it necessary to publish a telephone number that can be used to reach us should anyone doubt the story. We are doing this because of many requests by many people who want to know more abouth the story.

    We are able to receive calls tomorrow the 16th of October through to the 18th October. We find it important that our readers get the truth and not be misled in any way. This is a true story and we stand by everyone written.

    NB: For verification, we can be reached on 004793299739

    africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/

  489. I’m glad that Whoopi spoke up this time. I am still seeing red from the time they interviewed John McCain recently. I wish she had played fair with him as well.

    As far as the view goes, the person I find most obnoxious during this campaign is Barbara Walters herself.jmo

  490. Idunn — saw the monkeys – hey, that’s a great flyer! Think I’ll make a few and plant them late at night here and there.

  491. I am trying to post a link to what it’s sure brewing to be “the Obama October surprise”..but the site won let me. What’s up with that?

  492. We find it important that our readers get the truth and not be misled in any way. This is a true story and we stand by everyone written.

    NB: For verification, we can be reached on 004793299739
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    Now that is journalism. Truth. Accountablilty to readers. A telephone number to call in on. Willing to answer questions. wow. It does exist somewhere under the southern cross.

    Compare and contrast. MSNBC. Email addresses for Capus and Griffin. No phone number. Thousands of protest letters sent. Zero reply. Months later in an interview with NYT no problem in our shop. NYT okay we believe you.

  493. Debbie: I was thinking of Tolstoy. The Death of Ivan Illych. The punch line: the meaning of life is it has no meaning. (He was a lawyer). I wonder if the October surprise is that there is no October suprise. Perish the thought.

  494. Ok guys..thanks so much!

    Here it is!!! PLEASE LORD LET THIS BE TRUE..PLEEEASE!!!

    You guys are gonna be blown away!! This could be “Obama’s swiftboat” moment..only that it’s all true!!!

    canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411

  495. Sotonight… you’re gonna have to get up WAY early in the morning to surprise Big Pinkers. We’ve been onto the Odinga story for almost a year. 😉

  496. 1. moononpluto Says:
    October 15th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
    I like Whoopi until she went into her whole Koolaid period and then she pissed me off, seems she might have integrity after all.
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    I was disappointed in Whoopi, too. But it seems that after Bill Clinton made an appearance on The View and by the way he greeted Whoopi, she came back to her senses.

    Yep, seems like Bill Clinton worked a “little black magic” on Whoopi 😉

    1. debbie Says:
    October 15th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    McCain sr. advisor, we’ll need a rescue plan from the BHO rescue plan

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    LOL!!!!! He got that right!

  497. wbboei Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
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    LMAO wbboei. That is a bogus poll. Rasmussen and Zogby who are the only ones who have ever been close have a 2 and 5 point lead. Its still neck and neck. This is a voter supression vote, trying to get republicans to stay home. Republicans never stay home, most likely it will supress democrats from going, thinking its won.

  498. Idunn, it’s a good job, though, that Odinga video — puts it together nicely. Better than some of the other ones, doncha think?

  499. Oh yeah, the video is really good. Now if only we could get it to play here in the states instead of in Canada. 😉

  500. independent2008 Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    1. moononpluto Says:
    October 15th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
    I like Whoopi until she went into her whole Koolaid period and then she pissed me off, seems she might have integrity after all.

    ====
    Sean Hannity was talking about her the other night, apparantly they are friends even though they have severely opposite views, or they at least respect each other as human beings, she’s been on his show he’s been on hers, and she defended him against Joy saying how dangerous he was. He thanked her on the air for that. Seriously, there is nothing wrong with having differing views, you don’t have to resort to that, I thought that was big of Whoppie, and though I thought her slavery comments to McCain were utterly ridiculous that was a nice thing for her to do.

  501. Idunn

    I’ve also heard of Odinga..but only as much as the pro Obama wolfpack in the MSM has allowed me to. I think this is political gold. It is coming down the stretch and whether or not the MSM wants to, somebody’s gonna bring this guy and this video up again..trust me on that one! McCain has nothing to lose anymore. He’s already been called a racist..unfairly, but no surprise there. They did the same to Bill and Hillary.

    I hope Fox and Hannity hammer this video home! The Conservative blogs are abuzz about it too. Let’s hope it gains traction.

    P.s,
    Now I am really scared of an OBama presidency..god help us all!!!!

  502. that slavery comment Whoopie made to McCain struck me as a joke that didn’t come off — she was playing a fine edge and the climate around her just wasn’t in tune

  503. Idunn Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    Unfortunately, if you can’t get MSM to touch something…what good is it?
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    If Corsi is in it FOX will print it. Once he gets over his cold and the trauma of his abduction. Unless somthing else is happening. The elites may be worried about violence like I alluded to this morning but this is no time for censorship. The voters are entitled to the truth.

  504. I never heard of Odinga until I found this site. That is scary, scary too is doesn’t that sound like the rhetoric Obama uses? That needs to be on every single news channel. Of course it won’t be.

  505. Sotonight…don’t pay any attention to me, I’m just frustrated today. I just feel like we’re all banging our heads against the wall when it comes to the media, that’s all.

    That’s good that conservative blogs are picking up the story, though. Thanks for sharing that. It actually gives me a bit of hope.:-)

  506. lil ole grape Says:

    October 15th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
    that slavery comment Whoopie made to McCain struck me as a joke that didn’t come off — she was playing a fine edge and the climate around her just wasn’t in tune
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    oh ok, cause that was a total turn off to me. I had always liked her before that, but there has been so much race card playing in this election that just came off as another play.

  507. re: Odinga – i remember last year, someone named Robert something or another used to come on this site and write long comments about Obama and Odinga, and he was the first who talked about Odinga…and at the time, a bunch of us were politically correct to the point where we thought he was just a nut-case.

  508. Let’s go light a candle for McCain tonight. I’m getting nervous already. It’s not that I fear he won’t do well — it’s just that I want him to …oh, god, bring off a miracle or something. Don’t we all? Wish I had an O doll so I could stick pins in it.

  509. Grape, the format is much better for McCain ie; sitting down at a table. I’m actually not worried that he won’t do well, I’m pretty confident he will…I worry that he won’t do the media’s job for them. 🙁

    ::sprinkles the holy water on Big Mac just in case::

  510. A bit more info on the lovely Vera Baker: she’s visited 17 countries (hmmm) and speaks fluent french (hmmm again).