Obama Rezko Biden, Palin

Last night’s Vice-Presidential debate between Senator Joe Biden and Governor Sarah Palin was widely viewed by American voters. Not since 1992 have so many Americans watched a debate in such high numbers.

Americans watched the debate in part for the bread-and-circuses appeal created by Big Media’s guffaws. Big Media coverage of Governor Palin led many Americans to expect Governor Palin to drop her glasses, break a shoe heel, snap her string of pearls – leading to Keystone Kops type comedy as she toppled the podium and dropped a pitcher of water on her head and say “Live from New York…”

Americans also watched to have one question answered: Who is Sarah Palin? Is Governor Palin the strong woman who they saw in Dayton, Ohio and at the Republican National Convention or was the real Governor Palin the Saturday Night Live caricature?

Governor Palin answered the question. It turns out Governor Sarah Palin is the Governor Palin Americans witnessed at the Republican National Convention who uses “betcha” and “doggonit” as an effective tool to demonstrate her connection to small town America.

Governor Palin proved neither she nor small town America are bitter and clingy. If Governor Palin was bitter it was towards Wall Street corruption. If Governor Palin was clingy it was towards her family, which took to the stage at the end, and wrote the epilog to the already answered question, “Who is Sarah Palin?”

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Last night Governor Palin answered the questions Americans had about her.

Americans are still waiting for an answer to the question Who is Barack Obama?

Long past spending a quarter of a billion dollars selling himself these past 2 years, Barack Obama is still an unknown.

Who is Barack Obama? The answer to that question clearly will not be answered by Obama nor by Dimocrats. The question might be answered by Antoin “Tony” Rezko as his October 28 sentencing date approaches.

Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a convicted influence peddler who was once one of Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s most trusted confidants, has met with federal prosecutors and is considering cooperating in the corruption probe of the governor’s administration, sources told the Tribune.[snip]

Rezko’s trial this year laid bare a culture of scams, bribes and backroom deals stretching from City Hall to the Statehouse. It even became fodder in the presidential campaign of Democratic nominee Barack Obama, whose fundraising and personal ties to Rezko go back more than a decade. [snip]

Rezko has made no deal in the wake of his June corruption conviction, sources familiar with the situation said, but has had preliminary talks with prosecutors before an October sentencing that could put him in prison for years. Still, there are indications Rezko has already provided investigators with information.

Four attorneys have told the Tribune in recent days that federal prosecutors have telephoned them and other attorneys either with news Rezko is talking, or armed with details only Rezko could know. The lawyers speculated prosecutors are using the preliminary talks with Rezko to shake loose more cooperation from other witnesses. [snip]

The U.S. attorney’s office in Chicago declined to comment, as did Rezko’s attorney William Ziegelmueller. [snip]

Two months before his conviction on fraud charges, Rezko typed a letter to his trial judge accusing “overzealous” prosecutors of pressuring him to talk about wrongdoing involving Obama or Blagojevich. Rezko said there was none to talk about.

They are pressuring me to tell them the ‘wrong’ things that I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama,” Rezko wrote U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve in an April bid to be released on bail during his trial.

On June 30, 2008 we wrote Let’s Help Barack Obama’s Slumlord Friend REZKO, Part I. We followed up that masterpiece with Let’s Help Barack Obama’s Slumlord Friend REZKO, Part II.

We asked the question What does Tony Rezko know and when will he say it? We provided some sane advice for Rezko’s family to transmit to the incarcerated Rezko. We suggested the main message to convey to Rezko was:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

We suggested in Parts I and II of our humble attempts to assist jailbird Rezko that perhaps, just perhaps, his attorneys (particularly Obama fan Joe Duffy) were more interested, as exhibited by their weak trial defense, in protecting Obama than in defending – friendless as soon as he is penniless – Rezko.

We noted in our stupdendous analysis regarding the Rezko letter that Joe Duffy – Rezko’s lawyer – is basically calling poor Tony a LIAR. That is strange behavior. The lawyer is calling his client a liar in a major newspaper. It’s almost as if Joe Duffy is more interested in protecting Obama and Blagojevich than his own client. Weeks ago, as Rezko was spotted at the Federal Courthouse triggering speculation that he was cooperating with prosecutors, Joe Duffy expressed skepticism that Rezko was going to the Federal Courthouse. Maybe Rezko is leaving Duffy out of the loop.

We documented, with barely held back tears, how Rezko was under “tremendous pressure” from his legal team “to pay their fees.” We wept as we recounted how Rezko took a loan of 3.5 million dollars, with the advice and consent of his attorneys, in order to pay those same attorneys. The loan backfired when it turned out the transaction violated court orders and poor Rezko was sent to the slammer.

We then provided the most valuable advice to Rezko in Part II. After remorsefully noting that Rezko is now a convicted felon as he approaches more legal and personal trials we cited the ugly fact that Rezko faces a daunting 300 years in prison. What to do? What to do?

We took inventory for Rezko.

We sadly informed that with a 300 year imprisonment facing him and now a convicted felon rapidly losing whatever friends he ever had as his money disappeared in legal fees Rezko needs one darn good “Get out of Jail Free” card. While flipping on Governor Blagojevich might remove a century or more of prison time that would still leave two more centuries in the vault.

Why would the price for flipping on a sitting Governor get such a miserly reduction of sentence? We suggested that the case against Governor Blagojevich is sufficiently strong without Rezko’s testimony. Without getting too deep into the allegations let us just say that Ali Ata’s testimony against the Governor might be sufficient to result in a conviction.

Last week the news for Rezko became even more dire. Governor Blagojevich might not have to wait for the legal system to act in order to lose his Illinois job.

After what has happened in the last few days, it’s more likely that Gov. Rod Blagojevich will be indicted or impeached or both. [snip]

The Illinois appellate court on Friday issued a ruling that could provide reason for the legislature to remove Blagojevich. He decided to spend tens of millions of dollars to expand a state health care insurance program even though the legislature wouldn’t approve it. The court told Blagojevich to stop the program—and said his administration can’t even identify how many people have enrolled in it. [snip]

But Blagojevich’s attempt to go around lawmakers and spend money they didn’t approve for a vast health care program may be just as insidious as his pay-to-play politics. His effort to expand health care through the program known as FamilyCare was soundly rejected by the Illinois legislature. But he did it anyway, spending millions of dollars to broaden eligibility for state-funded health care to people with higher family incomes.

The Illinois secretary of state said the governor had no authority to do that. A legislative rule-making body said he had no authority to do that. But he did it anyway.

In January, Obama political god-father and Blagojevich protector Senate President Emil Jones will retire. The Governor appears vulnerable enough without Rezko that Federal prosecutors will devalue Rezko’s testimony.

We calculated, Rezko’s biggest “Get out of Jail Free” card is flipping on Obama. Rezko has answers on the straw donors that kicked funds to Obama campaigns and of course there is that interesting matter of Obama’s house.

In December 2007, the Hillary Clinton campaign unveiled The Hillary I Know website. The website was crammed with videos of Hillary family and friends of many decades. We wrote about the Hillary I Know website that it documented Hillary’s real life, not composite characters in an autobiography, can be traced through a lifetime of friends and work.

Of Obama little is known and what is known is concocted by Obama himself. No friends from the past come forth with testimonials. The grandmother is rarely seen, never heard. Only the most self-interested employees or “friends” of recent vintage are heard from. Little wonder – the long-time Obama friends we have seen are of the Jeremiah Wright variety – not exactly the best character witnesses you want to bring before the electoral jury.

Last night Sarah Palin answered the question “Who is Sarah Palin?”

After more than a quarter billion dollars spent Obama has still not answered the question “Who is Barack Obama?”

“Who is Barack Obama?” The answer might have to come from long-time friend Tony Rezko. The answer won’t be pretty.

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  1. Hillary Praises Palins performance very highly

    Obama’s going to have a shitfit when he hears.

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/hillary-palin-c.html

    ABC News’ Nitya Venkataraman Reports: If you were asking her to score it, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., would describe Sen. Joe Biden’s debate performance as “flawless”, and tell you she’d always expected high marks for Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on the debate stage.

    “I think she’s very good,” Clinton said, praising Palin on Ryan Seacrest’s Los Angeles-based radio show Friday morning. “It’s amazing: she’s been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night.”

    Praise for Palin’s debate performance aside, Clinton reiterated her support for her former Democratic rivals during the morning radio interview and said “the real issue is who is better for America.”

  2. repost from last thread:

    CountTheVotes,
    No, I’m not at a place where I can support Obama yet. Really for me it won’t matter- I live in Tennessee. This state isn’t remotely competitive so my little voting against JM/Palin wouldn’t even make a dent. You know something? I actually want to really be excited about him, about supporting the democratic nominee. I’ve listened to Hillary and the big dawg say why he would be a good president, I’ve tried to be fair and look at the positives of his candidacy. Nobody is perfect I keep telling myself but still there’s just something missing. Can’t quite put my finger on it. So for right now it’s not him or McCain.

  3. Ooooh, looks like they are worried they’ll be wrong.

    Exit polls offer some concerns for networks

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_en_ot/tv_exit_polls;_ylt=ApdouaGfChKKtlBFgedZ6Cqs0NUE

    NEW YORK – Barack Obama’s tendency through the Democratic primaries to perform better in exit polls than he actually does at the ballot box has some media organizations nervous heading into Election Night.

    Television networks want to avoid having their performance become an issue for the third straight presidential election. Their political experts hope that experience gained during the primaries will help things run smoothly Nov. 4.

    ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and The Associated Press pool resources to conduct exit polls in select precincts, hoping to glean information about why people vote the way they do and to help predict a winner or loser. A combination of actual vote counts and exit polls is generally used to “call” a state for one candidate or another.

    Exit polls frequently overstated Obama’s vote during the primaries by as much as 3 percentage points.

  4. Only 3 percent, some of them were a lot more than that and they became too close to call, when Hillary won by a landslide.

  5. I remember exit polls were way off, remember rhode island, that was too close to call and she won by 18% or off course Massachussetts, where the exit polls had it too close to call and she won by 180,000 and don’t even start on California and Ohio.

    Obama’s exit polls have always shown it too close to call in many instances and then Hillary won it by a mile.

  6. Moononpluto, it was way way more than 3 percent. We specifically recally Super Tuesday and the horrible exit polls showing Hillary doing very badly in places like Massachusetts and California and that Hillary would be devastated that night. We had several monitors looking at the results in Georgia and when the Georgia results showed that Obama’s numbers were exaggerated there we extrapolated that the numbers were wrong nationwide.

    The exit polls were way way off. Super Tuesday was a horrible day when the exit polls came out. When the actual votes came in it was a good night.

    Any Big Media types that doubt this can check our posts that day and see the reactions and play by plan n the comments. It was rough going for a while until the votes came in.

  7. Exactly Admin, it will be the same again, they will get it wrong and i bet McCain romps home. There will be many too close to call again, mark my words.

  8. Sounds to me like, MSM is admitting they had the exit polls badly wrong and sorry but we have no idea about Nov 4th unless its a state win by a large margin. They are getting their mea culpas in early.

  9. I have my theory, I reckon Bambi’s margins in the cities will not be big enough to sustain an onslaught from rural heartlands in many states.

    Obama must run up large %’s in the cities to stand a chance, remember all those states where Hillary turned the entire state her colour except the city and where did that get Obama, NOWHERE.

    Pennsylvania is point in principle, Obama needs to take something like 45% of the rural population, if its less than that, then his chances decline. If McCain pushes up his % in rural heartlands like lackwanna to say the 60/70 mark, Obama is dead in PA.

  10. Excellent Admin!!!

    And on a side note, I did my duty today. Turned over for titles with the idiot’s smirking face on the covers. Petty I know…lol…but damn satisfying!!! 🙂

  11. Janh, a good approach, if its in a library or bookshop is to move the books one by one to the FICTION section or horror books or if its in a market or large superstore is to move the books one by one,put it in your trolley and when no ones looking slip it into the deep freezer under bags of frozen items or behind items no one ever buys.

  12. Moononpluto, we checked our February 5, 2008 posts. We wrote several that day. For those wanting to relive that day here is one link and you can view the earlier and later articles – all give a good summation of that day:

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=475

    We quickly found second wave exit polls for the day here (they had Hillary losing Massachusetts which she won by 10):

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=475#comment-59854

    1. Dem Exits, Second Wave
    These are the second wave exits. Not certain whether or not they’re weighted. Assume they’re not.
    GA: C- 25.5, O – 75
    CT: C – 45, O – 52.2
    IL: C – 29.1, O – 69.6
    AL: C – 37, O – 59.6
    DE: C – 41.9, O – 55.6
    MA: C – 47.3, O – 49.8
    MO: C – 45.1, O – 49.8
    TN: C – 51.6, O – 41.1
    NY: C – 55.6, O – 42.2
    NJ: C – 47, O – 52.2
    AR: C – 71.2, O – 25.5
    OK: C – 60.5, O – 30.4
    AZ: C – 44.8, O – 50.5
    These below are first wave …
    NM: C – 45.6, O – 51.8
    UT: C – 39.9, O – 60.1
    CA: C – 49.6, O – 46.3

  13. So NM was 5 off, Cali was 4 out either way, NJ was 10 out also, AZ was 10 out also, these exit polls aint looking good are they.

  14. # nikki22 Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    CountTheVotes,
    No, I’m not at a place where I can support Obama yet. Really for me it won’t matter- I live in Tennessee. This state isn’t remotely competitive so my little voting against JM/Palin wouldn’t even make a dent. You know something? I actually want to really be excited about him, about supporting the democratic nominee. I’ve listened to Hillary and the big dawg say why he would be a good president, I’ve tried to be fair and look at the positives of his candidacy. Nobody is perfect I keep telling myself but still there’s just something missing. Can’t quite put my finger on it. So for right now it’s not him or McCain.

    *****************
    Hey Nikki22 – thanks so much for your honesty. I’ve tried a little too – sometimes I think that if I went with BO and since my friends are mostly liberal, and even Hillary supporters friends are turning to Obama – I think it would be the path of least resistance. But I cannot. Something in me just cannot get over how badly Hillary and her supporters were treated and how many principles that I thought the Democratic party stood for were violated. I even feel a bit guilty that I can’t remember all the details of how badly things were, ie. just a few months ago, we were PUMAs and busy trying to get a roll call vote – but certain things in the media with McCain or Palin – remind me; the psychological warfare and all the new negative spins that came out weekly on Hillary are an example of how unbearable it was – so when I hear “oh if Palin screw up, McCain is over with” – I think that’s how they used to talk about Hillary – “the math, the math, she must drop out.”

    But in the end, I just cannot trust Obama with this country.

  15. http://www.delawareonline.com/blogs/2008/10/ill-meet-you-anytime-you-want-in-our.html

    Towards the end of last night’s Joe Biden/Sarah Palin debate, Joe Biden said this: “All you have to do is to go down Union Street with me in Wilmington and go to Katie’s restaurant…”

    It caughtme off guard, as well as our food guru Patty Talorico.

    She investigated a bit and realized Biden was referring to the long-closed Katie’s Italian restaurant, which is actually two blocks away from Union Street.

    The establishment is now a Wings to Go.

    Talorico’s blog post has been picked up by the John McCain campaign, along with The National Review, New York magazine and others.

    For a guy running as an in-touch-with-the-real-people candidate, it’s hard to believe he not only referenced a restaurant that has been closed for nearly 20 years, but also got the location wrong!

  16. I am not worried about any state polls now for the simple reason Obama has a history of over polling. His over polling may increase on November 4th as people have watched the Obama camp with the aid of MSM play the race card this entire election season and know anyone who says that they voted for McCain will be considered a racist. So look at all state polls with in a different light. Pollsters they say their polls have a margin of error of 3 or 4% when in reality they are probably 9 or 10%

  17. Speaking of polls, has anyone been checking the zogby polls? MSM has stopped using them and the reason may be that their polls are vastly different from gallup and rassmussen. He has McCain up in PA (by 5), OH (by 6), IN, NH (by 7) FL (by 11) CO (by2)

  18. News Advisory:Zogby Poll on Vice Presidential Debate to be Released Saturday

    Likely voters nationwide polled on face-off

    UTICA, New York – Zogby International is in the field right now with a post-Vice Presidential Debate survey, asking in-depth questions about the face-off between Republican Sarah Palin and Democrat Joe Biden. The survey also tests the horserace between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, and several other topics related to the race for the White House.

    Results of the interactive survey will be posted online at http://www.zogby.com as soon as they are available, early in the day on Saturday.

    The release kicks off the beginning of Zogby’s final month of polling that will track the presidential election on a daily basis with national telephone polling and regular interactive surveys. In partnership with Reuters and C-SPAN, Zogby will conduct daily telephone tracking, with releases beginning on Tuesday, Oct. 7.
    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1570

  19. Now we will see the big guns come out

    the phones will ring monday thru friday, saturday and sunday will be in the field at the doors, they need to ID specifically where they stand. solid supporters, leaners, undecideds and the opposition.
    they will keep registration going in all the states until the deadlines
    the campaigns ground troops are locking in the firm supporters pushing for early voting by them, once they are out of the way the primary focus will be all the others.
    they will continue their message to the undecideds and step up the push on leaners to commit until 1 week before the election
    that is when the entire team will go into GOTV mode.
    No one sleeps
    For the staff of these campaigns it will go fast, but for us out here it will seem like it will never end.

    I may make an exception this year and go to a red neck bar! you betcha, doggonit

  20. So what will happen to the Dems reputation if they bailed out the Financial people, and the market keep crashing.

    Does that party really know how to handle the Economy. They are in the drivers seat here, are they not?

  21. nikki22 Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    ***********************************************

    Nikki22…you say you are torn because even though you want to support obama because hill and bill may have inspired you to do so…there still is something missing…

    yes…your instincts are right…there is a lot missing with obama…he is dishonest, he is a fraud, he cannot be trusted, he has some very nasty, mean spirited people behind him…he is not sincere and is an ambitious opportunist in a big hurry…such a big hurry that he showed he has no honor in the way he went after Hillary and Bill…so, your concerns and apprehension, Nikki22, are a gut check…

    McCain in not perfect and certainly not our first choice but now we are reduced to an either, or…
    McCain has lived a life of honor earned…and Sarah Palin has heart…she is not jaded and compromised yet…she is still idealistic and eager to do the right thing “for the greater good”

    …how I want to believe that someone out there still cares about “the greater good” or something remotely near it…rather than all the political shenaghigans and corruption already going on between both parties and all the favors they owe…Sarah is almost like an ingenue political conscience…a babe in the bad woods…

    as it stands now, with Hillary sidelined off the ticket, we have two choices…anyone but obama…he will come in with his crew and the cohorts that enabled him in the dem party and there will be no checks and balances at all…it will be one party rule with a complicit MSM that covers for him…then where will we be?

    this gives me pain, I had such high hopes way back when…but it is my gut check…

    if Hillary were at the top of the ticket I would feel the adults were in charge and the one party rule would not concern me because I trust Hillary and I know what to expect from Hill and Bill and their record, but with Obama, his massive ego and his enablers running everything, the executive branch and congress and MSM hiding his and their skeletons….that is much more frightening than McCain and do-gooder Sarah Palin for four years while we regroup…and mccain and palin will be forced to work with a stronger democratic congress so there will be some oversight

    this is the time to be pragmatic…clear thinking…labels and party line are not the most important thing right now…and as I have said often I say this as a long time dem activist…

    I think you know from other places you post that some dems have lost all sense of honesty and integrity in their quest to support obama, let’s face it, many of them are blatant hypocrites…I cannot even go to many of them anymore, they have become so childish, absurd and yes, even sexist…

    btw…as i write this obama is on tv right now praising Bill Clinton and his leadership in the 1990’s…can you believe this guy? after he ran against the same thing during the primaries…the answer is, no you cannot believe him…think about it…

  22. birdgal
    He was early in the primaries, but got better towards the end. If his polls had Obama with the lead in these crucial states MSM would be blaring them from bull horns on vans going thru the streets. They can not be that unreliable if CSPAN is using them.

  23. So I’m also thinking that the Fantasy section and science fiction section would also be a good place for me to hide any and all of Obamatwit’s books etc…. 😉

  24. Very interesting. McCain camp released the Palins tax returns, and it seems that they give a good bit to charity, despite raising 4 kids on not a huge amount of money.

    ARLINGTON, VA — Today, the McCain-Palin campaign released Governor and Todd Palin’s tax returns for 2006 and 2007. The Palins’ tax returns show that they paid $36,682 in federal taxes for 2006 and 2007. In the past two years, Governor and Todd Palin have contributed $8,205 to charitable causes. Below please find summary information about the Palins’ 2006 and 2007 tax returns.

    The McCain-Palin campaign also released Governor and Todd Palin’s Public Financial Disclosure Report.

    SUMMARY OF TAX RETURNS

    Taxes Paid:

    For 2006, the Palins paid $11,944 (LINE 63) in total taxes on gross income of $127,869 (LINE 37), which is a 9.3% tax rate.

    For 2007, the Palins paid $24,738 (LINE 63) in total taxes on gross income of $166,080 (LINE 37), which is a 14.9% tax rate.

    Charitable Contributions:

    2006

    In 2006, Sarah and Todd Palin donated $4,250 to charity in cash/check donations and $630 in non-cash/check donations, for a total of $4,880. This is 3.3% of their adjusted gross income.

    2007

    In 2007, Sarah and Todd Palin donated $2,500 to charity in cash/check donations and $825 in non-cash/check donations, for a total of $3,325. This is 1.5% of their adjusted gross income.

  25. Norma Desmond Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 am
    I liked what Palin said about tolerance. If nothing else, it appears she would not force her beliefs on the American Public, but govern by the Constitution.
    =============

    Palin sounded VERY sincere. It fits her pattern so far in Alaska: see “Palin governs from the center.”

  26. The view from the far right. An enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    It is a grenade sitting in the middle of the Democrat Party waiting for McCain to pull the pin. Ace says McCain will pull that pin, just not yet. I think he is dead on the money.

    No confirmation on this, no tip, no hint.

    But I know what he’s doing. patriotroom.com

    John McCain is waiting until the bill passes.

    And then he will unleash the dogs of war.

    And he will say, “I stayed away from making these partisan attacks, even though you lied ridiculously about me and your own attempts at ‘reform.’ I held back, because partisan attacks — even truthful ones — would harm our country and reduce the chances of getting a vital bill passed.

    “Well, the bill is now passed. I put country first. You didn’t, and you lied on top of that. And now — only now that this crisis has been dealt with, to the extent we can — I’m going to give you a bit of straight-talk about Fannie, Freddie, my attempts to reform it, and your attempts to block reform on behalf of your big donors and friends in ACORN.”

    Count on it.

  27. The accusation that McCain didn’t properly ‘vet’ Sarah before picking her always reminds me of Ford.

    They once spent a fortune canvassing the public in what they wanted in an automobile. They took all the polls and spent another fortune producing the perfect automobile and finally, with great fanfare they delivered their carefully designed car — the Edsel!!

    All the PR and publicity in the world couldn’t save it and I’m hoping that that is true for Obama.

  28. count, nikki,

    As a latte tree-hugger who has lived near Indonesia, it bothers me a lot to see our issues stolen by Obama’s camp. It’s tempting to vote for those issues and hope the sincere latte tree-huggers can be powerful in the White House (and at least the Nov election won’t look like a rejection of our issues).

    I might go with this if Obama were really Bambi, an inexperienced empty suit who has accidentally bumbled in before he was ready.

    But he isn’t. He’s positively evil. Him and the Pelosi and Brazile he rode in on. I don’t want those cheaters to have any success.

    Palin and McCain may be moving more slowly on our issues, but they’re doing it honestly. The Obama camp, if they even tried to follow through, would probably abuse our issues and discredit them.

  29. basil9 Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    Not true, Hillary sounded the alarm also! BillClinton tried too but the Dems would not support him

  30. Cameron Interviews Post-Debate Palin

    She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be President of the United States, “Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief.” Palin said, “Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That’s reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/03/cameron-interviews-post-debate-palin/

  31. I just got an email from McCain to phone bank for him. In the banner headline area it shows a small picture of a women holding a Hillary banner, and right next to her I believe is the same women now holding the McCain banner.

    Has anyone else gotten this email? Just curious.

  32. Obama’s greedy friends in the fannie/freddie and stupid ivy league specualting buddies
    crashed Wall st; they are not done yet..they will crsh Madison ave…PR/Advertising a product like this
    1/2 billion worthless sh*t pales what madison ave can do!

  33. This bail out bill:

    -Citibank offers Wachovia about 2.5 billions with reviews of assets by FDIC under this bill.
    – Wells Fargo offers Wachovia 15 billion buyout…outside of this bill and tax payer money.

    Citibank is miffed! why? FDIC is still looking into it….

    What is the problem here?

    One..or maybe two… of BO’s close friends are executives/advisors at Citibank????

    Go figure!!!!

  34. I just do not understand for the life of me why ANYONE who lives in the great states of Michigan or Florida could vote for nObama. Do they not recall how he was instrumental in the suppression of our votes in the primary; and then released them just in time to count for HIM?
    What part of the Hitler regime do these good people not understand?

  35. ShortTermer

    I can’t understand why delegates were awarded to someone that voluntarily withdrew his name from the ballot period

  36. And I can’t understand why anyone who doesn’t support Barrack Rasputin Obama is considered racist, but those who support him and not McCain are not labeled the same.

  37. NMF:

    I got the phonnebank email…the lady is that hillary delegate from WI who got thrown off
    by the DEMS …het name is Debra something..

  38. they get it….

    The Weekly Update from Media Matters for America

    With little more than a month to go before Election Day, voters need the news media to cut through the clutter of the candidates’ competing sound bites and spin. They need clear and concise explanations of what, exactly, the candidates would do if elected. And they need the media to provide this every day, not just once in a while.

    Unfortunately, they aren’t getting it. Instead, they are faced with countless news reports that simply repeat charges and counter-charges or obsess over minor details while failing to provide the big picture – news reports that obscure rather than clarify the candidates’ proposals and positions.

    ………..UNTIL HERE

    the rest of what they say is so slanted to the messiah they lose all credibility

  39. LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – The debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden drew nearly 70 million U.S. television viewers, far more than the John McCain-Barack Obama bout, making it the most watched vice presidential debate ever, according to ratings issued on Friday.

  40. Her performance at Thursday night’s debate was widely viewed as a recovery from her interviews of the past week and a return to the confident persona she projected at the Republican National Convention a month ago.

    Asked about claims that she was being sequestered and over-managed by McCain staffers over the past week, she said: “Well I beg to differ with the notion that I was reined in in any way, but if there was any of that, it’s over.”

    Holy shit, maybe Sarah DOES read here!! Okay, just give us a wink, Sarah, so we’ll know it’s really you. 😉

  41. Her performance at Thursday night’s debate was widely viewed as a recovery from her interviews of the past week and a return to the confident persona she projected at the Republican National Convention a month ago.
    __________________________________________________________
    BIG MEDIA WAS AT A DISTINCT DISADVANTAGE IN THE DEBATE: THEY COULD NOT EDIT THE SCRIPT TO MAKE HER COMMENTS APPEAR TO BE WHAT THEY NEVER WERE.

  42. Gawd. That slime Andrew Sullivan is once again demanding that Plain turn over her medical records on Trig’s birth, including amniocentesis.

    GET UP IN THEM STIRRUPS, WOMAN! HAND ME THE SPECULUM!

    He’s disgusting. One commenter I saw postulated that the source of Andrew’s unhinged rage is that Sarah Palin is capable of bearing Barack Obama’s baby, and poor Andy, however much he yearns to do so, is not.

  43. And I can’t understand why anyone who doesn’t support Barrack Rasputin Obama is considered racist, but those who support him and not McCain are not labeled the same.
    —————————————————————-
    JAN: IT IS AN ATTEMPT AT VOTER NULLIFICATION (SEE MY COMMENT ABOVE). ERGO, THE GATE SWINGS ONLY ONE WAY.

  44. Well you know that next up someone will probably accuse Palin of winking in code…maybe a spy…maybe the 21st century Mata Hari…

    If the media is going to print/report drivel, then I am going to treat them like the idiots they are.

  45. Gawd. That slime Andrew Sullivan is once again demanding that Plain turn over her medical records on Trig’s birth, including amniocentesis.
    —————————————————————–
    By all accounts, Sullivan is a prick with ears who is madly in love with Bambi.

  46. nikki22 Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    repost from last thread:

    CountTheVotes,
    No, I’m not at a place where I can support Obama yet. Really for me it won’t matter- I live in Tennessee. This state isn’t remotely competitive so my little voting against JM/Palin wouldn’t even make a dent. You know something? I actually want to really be excited about him, about supporting the democratic nominee. I’ve listened to Hillary and the big dawg say why he would be a good president, I’ve tried to be fair and look at the positives of his candidacy. Nobody is perfect I keep telling myself but still there’s just something missing. Can’t quite put my finger on it. So for right now it’s not him or McCain.
    ***************

    Read this:
    http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/10/what-is-the-quality-of-your-intent.html

    I think this election matters most because it poses a question to all Americans, but especially to Democrats, about the ways we find it acceptable to practice politics in our country. Many of my Democratic friends acknowledge that Senator Obama’s campaign relied on less-than-savory, even dishonest, measures to secure his spot as the Democratic candidate; they will admit, when asked pointedly, that they are disturbed by Senator Obama’s truth squads and training camps, by his manipulation of young children when he urges their parent to have them tell their grandparents to vote for him; by his refusal to denounce sexism or take concrete measures to affirmatively demonstrate that he understands the pervasiveness of that social ill; by his tepid stand on reproductive rights and equal rights for gays and lesbians; by his commitment to tying Church and state closer together. But these friends excuse Senator Obama’s methods by saying that he has done and is just doing what it takes to win, and after all, isn’t that what Republicans have done for years?

    Read the whole article by Heidi Li, it was great.

  47. WASHINGTON Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton made the following statement Friday on the House of Representatives’ passage of a $700 billion financial market rescue plan. Clinton had voted yes to the plan as it passed the Senate Wednesday.

    “After intense bipartisan cooperation, Congress has acted to stabilize the markets, significantly improving the Bush Administration’s initial proposal. As I have said repeatedly, in tackling this market turmoil, we need a plan that includes checks and balances, not a blank check. While the final legislation is far from perfect, both the Senate and House have provided greater taxpayer protections, oversight, and accountability.

    “Now we must go further. We face more than a market crisis. We must tackle a broader economic crisis. I am proposing that we set three big goals: ensuring accountability to taxpayers in the execution of this plan; rewriting mortgages at risk of default and foreclosure that threaten the housing markets and financial markets; and pursuing broader economic change to prevent future crises, reform Wall Street, and grow this economy by creating new jobs and opportunities for the middle class.

    “This is a challenging time. We have lost thousands of jobs in New York and thousands more are threatened. Small businesses are struggling to find credit to keep their doors open and inventories stocked. Affordable student loans, car payments, and home loans are all jeopardized. State and local budgets are at risk. In September 159,000 jobs were lost, the ninth straight month of job losses. We cannot continue on the current path.”
    ———————————————
    If hillary were the nominee this would not be a wall street bailout without a mainstreet bailout since mainstreet is paying for it. The three points which she puts forth as an after the fact proposal with zero leverage to implement them would have been part of the original bill–the inevitable trade-off for mark to market. Bambi! was his usual MIA self and took no action to protect working Americans. Nice job empty suit.

  48. Besides Palin’s great performance last night the bigger better news is that 70 million voters watched the debate. Looks like the voters are finally tuning in and taking the time to look at both tickets. Sarah’s performance will go a long way in defeating Obama.
    McCain now needs to unleash everything he has from Obama’s shady associates to the Democrats congressional performance the past 2 years. Obama can blame Bush all he wants, but it is congress that decides the direction the country will go and they have us in a nose dive. Today Obama was blaming McCain for the high unemployment numbers, McCain should respond “so where was the democrats jobs bill? They have been in charge of both houses the past 2 years and the economy has been in a downward spiral since.”

  49. ABC had the top broadcast last night during the VP debate, with 13,130,000 Total Viewers. ABC edged NBC, which had 12,820,000. CBS had 11,100,000.

    FNC was the top cable network, coming in at a network-record 11,098,000.

    This was ABC’s highest rated VP debate since 1992. But as a whole, the ratings shatter the top-rated VP debate of all time, in 1984, which had 56.7 million total viewers.

    This debate had 69.9 million total viewers, tied for 2nd highest rated debate ever (1980 had the highest, 1992 was tied).

    In post-debate analysis, FNC was #1, followed by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC.

    Total Viewers for the debate:

    Network Total Viewers
    ABC 13,130,000
    NBC 12,820,000
    CBS 11,100,000
    FNC 11,098,000
    CNN 10,685,000
    FOX 4,500,000
    MSNBC 4,412,000

    ……………..
    this is a great site to see who is getting the viewers.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

  50. basil9 Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pm
    new nra ad.
    ———————————————
    Powerful ad/

  51. Is most of the media snobbish towards Gov. Palin?
    ++
    gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/03/on-the-record-live-vote-vote-now-7/comment-page-6/#comments

  52. Speaking of that NRA ad, did you guys here about the 21 year old woman from Alabama that was murdered in Knoxville on a business trip? Two illegal immigrants, working at the Days Inn, used their room pass to enter her room. I couldn’t help but think of myself in that situation. I always carry my gun when I’m in a situation where I could be vulberable, especially when I’m out of town and staying in a unfamiliar part of town. Would I have had an opportunity in which to use it in that kind of scenario? I don’t know. But I’d have damn sure stood a better chance of walking out of that kind of situation alive than that poor girl did.

    God, I just feel sick that that happened to her.

  53. mp

    Thanks for the reply. Sorry it took so long, but this evening has been busy.

    I just read in a magazine today, that McCains ex wife has a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car.

  54. OK, anyone there? Time for the daily ritual:
    http://www.gretawire.com

    Is most of the media snobbish towards Gov. Palin?
    Yes 98% (27043 votes)
    No 2% (430 votes)
    Total Votes: 27473

    Probably no need to vote on this one….

  55. I just read in a magazine today, that McCains ex wife has a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car
    ———————————————-
    So there really is such a thing as an amicable divorce.

  56. wbboei: They have been friends over the years. I’m sure his years as a POW changed him, as the time and circumstances changed her. Life happens, and people grow apart.

  57. wbboei Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    I just read in a magazine today, that McCains ex wife has a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car
    ———————————————-
    So there really is such a thing as an amicable divorce

    ================

    Didn’t she used to campaign with him, some years ago?

  58. wbboei
    I saw on CNN in their biography of McCain he gave her alimony for life in the divorce settlement. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

  59. I just read in a magazine today, that McCains ex wife has a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car
    ———————————————-
    So there really is such a thing as an amicable divorce.
    ————————-

    I have read that their only daughter Sidney who lives in CA, has a share in Cindy’s millions along with her other children. McCain also adopted two sons of his first wife. The three of them are in their 40s.

    Along those lines, I have been watching various family members and friends of Palin, generally on Greta. They all seem like such nice people. Where are Obama’s character references? Are we supposed to feel guilty and sympathy that he has none because of his exotic life circumstances? Or are they hidden from us for some reason?

  60. pm317
    Obama keeps his family (grandmother and sister) away from the press as much as possible. Probably afraid that granny will slip and talk about the day her daughter brought baby Barack home from Kenya.

  61. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303738.html?hpid=topnews

    Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama’s character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat’s judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.

    With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain’s team has decided that its emphasis on the senator’s biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan’s campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

    “We’re going to get a little tougher,” a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. “We’ve got to question this guy’s associations. Very soon. There’s no question that we have to change the subject here,” said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

  62. More from the Washington Post article which follows our lead:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303738_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008100303878&s_pos=

    Two other top Republicans said the new ads are likely to hammer the senator from Illinois on his connections to convicted Chicago developer Antoin “Tony” Rezko and former radical William Ayres, whom the McCain campaign regularly calls a domestic terrorist because of his acts of violence against the U.S. government in the 1960s.

  63. admin Says:

    October 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
    More from the Washington Post article which follows our lead:

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    Palin’s Steady Act All GOP Could Ask For
    CBSNews.com Analysis: Alaska Governor Turns In Strong Performance After Shaky Weeks But Biden, Democrats Retain Edge
    She demonstrated an ability to thrust and parry on a variety of subjects, at times putting Biden on the defensive. And she did it with the folksy, hockey mom touch that played so well at the Republican convention, but seemed to be laid on a bit heavy for a one-on-one debate.

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    McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama

    Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama’s character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat’s judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.

  65. Did I sleep through the William Ayers revelations?

    I finally looked him up in Wikipedia and found these alarming facts:

    In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: “I am a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist …

    In 1970 Ayers was called “a national leader”of the Weatherman organization and “one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen…Their founding document called for the establishment of a “WHITE FIGHTING FORCE” to be allied with the “BLACK LIBERATION MOVEMENT” and other “anti-colonial” movements to achieve “the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism.”

    Black liberation movement? That rings a bell. Sorry if I missed the discussion of this, but I don’t remember the media exposing this. I don’t believe voters know this. When O says “change you can believe in”, he’s not kidding about the change.

  66. Did anyone get a Thank you note in the mail from John McCain?

    I have been so depressed since Hillary dropped out of the race. I have also been supporting McCain as I see him as an honest man and the lesser of two evils, but today I was really touched. I donated a mere $20 to his campaign in the 24 hours after he named Palin as VP.

    Today, I got a short Thank you note in the mail. It was stamped with a $.42 stamp. Although there was an envelope enclosed – John McCain asked for no money. The GOP also did not ask for any money. It was only roughly three sentences signed John (Of course it was a form letter) It basically said since I stood by him, he wanted to stand by me.

    I have donated small amounts to other candidates, but somehow, when I opened this letter, I felt good, like he really cared about America and service and honor and the “little people” like me. I honestly must say I felt touched and really taken aback by his integrity. I mean he obviously had my vote or I wouldn’t gave given any money. I felt bad like he ought to be spending his 42 cents, paper and envelope on Independent voters he needs.

    The DNC sent me a lousy generic Democrat bumper sticker. I replaced it with an “I’m not bitter – I’m Voting for John McCain” bumper sticker and an “Another Democrat voting for John McCain” from Ebay.

    I am disappointed that McCain seems to being bashed in the media like Hillary was etc. etc. – but with the choices available – his note assured me that I am making the right selection in this election.

  67. freckles,

    Don’t trust wikipedia. It’s just the sort of deal the bots can infitrate and scrub.

  68. Hillary is Fighting for Rick Noriega to Take Out Sen Cornyn-Will You?
    by: texan4hillary
    Sat Oct 04, 2008 at 03:18:56 AM EDT
    [edit diary]

    Hillary’s goal is to elect a fillibuster proof senate and add a large number of dem house seats. It is critical to the nation to have new blood in the congress. To have more allies for Hillary. To push out the party of Bush which fillibustered the mimumum wage hike, run out those who voted agianst SCHIP, the equal pay act, the trillion dollar tx cut and much more.
    Here in Texas most Dems backed her. Here in Texas we have one of the nation’s most conservative underving senators imagineable. Sen Cornyn is a BIG problem for us all. He has voted with the Bush agenda at a near 100pct. He rarely even comes home to his own damned constituents.

    State Rep Rick Noriega, a champion of the people and a real Democrat who has fought the good fight for public education, expanding healthcare, and much more backed Sen Clinton in her run for the Whitehouse. Today Hillary announced her endorsement of Rick! She came to McCallen Tx, raised him a large sum of money and campaigned.

    We hope to see her back very soon for Rick. He is a fighter like her. He also serves his nation in the army and has fought in Iraq. Let us help this hero beat one of the worst repubs in the Senate. Help Hillary help the country by volunteering to oust Cornyn from office. Read more below including a link to do online phonebanking for Rick!

    texan4hillary :: Hillary is Fighting for Rick Noriega to Take Out Sen Cornyn-Will You?
    Memo from Noriega Campaign—
    With just over a month left until Election Day, our campaign is gaining support and continuing to build momentum. Rick is within striking distance of a vulnerable John Cornyn — earlier this week, a Rasmussen poll showed Rick behind our opponent by just 7 percentage points.1

    Also, Senator Hillary Clinton endorsed Rick’s candidacy and campaigned with us in McAllen this week. During her visit, Senator Clinton said of Rick, “We need his leadership and his experience. We need his voice and his commitment. What he’s done in the state legislature particularly on behalf of children and on behalf of education is exactly the type of hard work that produces results that we need more of in Washington.”

    The Rasmussen poll and Senator Clinton’s support are great news, but we need your help to keep up our momentum. Here are four things you can do right now:
    Volunteer for our campaign. Hundreds of Texans have signed up to host a house party, blockwalk, or help with campaign events. Volunteering is a great way to meet other Noriega supporters, and the more people we have on the ground, the more successful we’ll be in turning out voters on November 4th. click here to sign up-ricknoriega.com/

    Phone bank for Rick. If you’d like to help Rick from the comfort of your own home or if you don’t live in Texas, phone banking is a great way to help us spread the word about our campaign. Just a couple hours of your time will make a big difference in reminding Texans to vote for Rick on Election Day. Click here- http:/ /idtx.onlinephonebanking… -to find a list of phone numbers to call, a calling script, and instructions for your phone banking session!

    Donate $10, $15, or $25 to our campaign. John Cornyn is already flooding the airwaves with ads, and we must respond quickly. These last few weeks before Election Day are critical, and if each of us makes a donation, we’ll be able fight back and make sure our message reaches every voter in Texas.

    Forward this email to your friends and relatives. Help us spread the word about our growing campaign to send Rick to the U.S. Senate.
    Our campaign is continuing to build each day. With the support of people like you, we’ll beat the odds and send a new Senator to Washington to represent Texas families first.

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Sincerely,

    Mark Bell
    Campaign Manager
    Rick Noriega for U.S. Senate

    P.S. Next Thursday, Rick Noriega will be participating in the PBS 2008 Debate hosted by the League of Women Voters of the Houston Area. If you happen to be in the area, please join us for a Houston Debate Watch Party at our campaign headquarters at 3200 Kirby Dr., Suite 200. The party will start at 7:30pm — please feel free to bring along a few friends or relatives!

  69. freckles,
    I knew Dohrn (spelling?) Ayer’s wife thought Charlie Manson was doing good in Califirnia. I knew that Charlie Manson had a racial element to his wacked out rational for brutal and senseless serial murder performed by his cult who called the victims pigs and piggies (from the Beatles?) Anyway, I was not aware Ayers wanted to unite the Black Liberation Movement with a White Fighting Force. I remember the name Weathermen and remember my dad telling me they were bad people – but much of my knowledge comes from Hannity – and I don’t think he has covered this.

    Why won’t the media recount our history? People are supposed to learn from their mistakes? And gee, you know I feel I am judged by my associations. I judge friends and acquaintances by their associates. Why is it improper to judge my potential – future President by his associations?

  70. I think it is time to start connecting dots.

    Obama’s college friends.
    Obama’s tenure at CAC.
    Obama’s ties to Ayers.
    Obama’s ties to Rev. Wright
    Obama’s ties to Rezko.

    Frightening and revealing.

    Obama’s ties to an establishment figure?
    Obama’s ties to a statesman/woman?
    Obama’s ‘community organizer’ accomplishments?
    Obama’s accomplishments of any kind?

    None so far.

  71. have you all seen this article. here’s my edit, please go to the link for full story:

    More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.

    And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.

    The FEC has compiled a separate database of potentially questionable overseas donations that contains more than 11,500 contributions totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their �state� as �IR,� often an abbreviation for Iran. Another 63 listed it as �UK,� the United Kingdom.

    More than 1,400 of the overseas entries clearly were U.S. diplomats or military personnel, who gave an APO address overseas. Their total contributions came to just $201,680.

    But others came from places as far afield as Abu Dhabi, Addis Ababa, Beijing, Fallujah, Florence, Italy, and a wide selection of towns and cities in France.

    Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.

    With such lax vetting of foreign contributions, the Obama campaign may have indirectly contributed to questionable fundraising by foreigners.

    In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as �Will, Good� from Austin, Texas.

    Mr. Good Will listed his employer as �Loving� and his profession as �You.�

    A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25.

    In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.

    Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 � still well over the $4,600 limit.

    In response to an investigation conducted by blogger Pamela Geller, who runs the blog Atlas Shrugs, the Obama campaign has locked down the store.

    Geller first revealed on July 31 that donors from the Gaza strip had contributed $33,000 to the Obama campaign through bulk purchases of T-shirts they had shipped to Gaza.

    The online campaign store allows buyers to complete their purchases by making an additional donation to the Obama campaign.

    A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and Monir Edwan contributed more than $31,300 to the Obama campaign in October and November 2007, FEC records show.

  72. late night thought: how is it that a candidate can do so much illegally from caucus fraud to illegal fundraising to friendships with crooks and be insulated from being called out on any of it simply because he is black?

  73. Good questin, Count…!

    Hope these will be 3 questions that McCain asks on Tuesday.

    Time to stop pussyfooting around.

  74. “Hannity’s America” EXPOSE: All of Barack Obama’s Radical Connections (FOXNews Sun. 9 pm EST)
    FOXNews Channel ^

    Be sure to watch the 1-hour EXPOSE on all of Barack Obama’s radical connections and associations hosted by Sean Hannity on his new show, “Hannity’s America”.

    The special will air this Sunday, Oct. 5th, at 9:00 p.m. EST on the FOXNews channel.

    To quote Sean Hannity, “No one else in the television news media is going to cover this information”.

  75. Do Facts Matter?
    by Thomas Sowell

    Abraham Lincoln said, “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.”

    Unfortunately, the future of this country, as well as the fate of the Western world, depends on how many people can be fooled on election day, just a few weeks from now.

    Right now, the polls indicate that a whole lot of the people are being fooled a whole lot of the time.

    The current financial bailout crisis has propelled Barack Obama back into a substantial lead over John McCain– which is astonishing in view of which man and which party has had the most to do with bringing on this crisis.

    It raises the question: Do facts matter? Or is Obama’s rhetoric and the media’s spin enough to make facts irrelevant?

    Fact Number One: It was liberal Democrats, led by Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years– including the present year– denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.

    townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/03/do_facts_matter?page=1

  76. Morning all –

    # pm317 Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    I just read in a magazine today, that McCains ex wife has a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car
    ———————————————-
    So there really is such a thing as an amicable divorce.
    ————————-

    I have read that their only daughter Sidney who lives in CA, has a share in Cindy’s millions along with her other children. McCain also adopted two sons of his first wife. The three of them are in their 40s.

    Along those lines, I have been watching various family members and friends of Palin, generally on Greta. They all seem like such nice people. Where are Obama’s character references? Are we supposed to feel guilty and sympathy that he has none because of his exotic life circumstances? Or are they hidden from us for some reason?

    ________________________________________________________________

    start here:
    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/loudon-black-radicals-for-obama/

    The two organisations unite all the main radical strands behind the Obama movement. Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS), former members of the ultra radical Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and its terrorist splinter the Weather Underground.

    Several of these currents came together in the mid 1990s to form the New Party. Barack Obama joined the New Party in Chicago in 1995 and recieved their support and endorsement in his successful 1996 Illinois State Senate race.

    In June 1998, radical black activists including many key leaders of the New Party came together in Chicago to form a new organisation — the Black Radical Congress (BRC).

    * Akbar Muhammad Ahmad — Instructor of African-American history & political science, Cuyahoga Community College, Cleveland.
    * Abdul Alkalimat — League of Revolutionaries for a New America.
    * Amina Baraka — CPUSA.
    * Amiri Baraka — Unity & Struggle newspaper.
    * Debbie Bell — CPUSA.
    * Lisa Brock — Chicago, wife of Committees of Correspondence leader Otis Cunningham.
    * Humberto R. Brown — Afro Latino Network; Ida B. Wells-W.E.B. Du Bois Network, alleged CPUSA.
    * Linda Burnham — Women of Color Resource Center, Berkeley, CA, from a Communist Party family, close to Committees of Correspondence.
    * James E. Campbell — Retired educator, Committees of Correspondence.
    * Angela Y. Davis — Professor, University of California at Santa Cruz; Committees of Correspondence, former CPUSA vice presidential candidate.
    * Michael Dawson — Chicago.
    * Bill Fletcher, Jr. — Labor activist and writer, Washington, DC, DSA.
    * Arturo Griffiths — African-American Human Rights Foundation, Washington, DC, editorial board of CPUSA theoretical journal Political Affairs.
    * Gerald Horne — Professor of African-American studies, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, editorial board of CPUSA theoretical journal Political Affairs.
    * Gerry Hudson — Executive Vice President, Local 1199—National Health & Human Services Union, New York City, Close to DSA.
    * J.J. Jobnson — DC 1707, AFSCME, New York City; alleged CPUSA.
    * Robin D.G. Kelley — Historian, Africana Studies, New York University; Ida B. Wells-W.E.B. Du Bois Network, formerly with the Communist Workers Party, latterly close to CPUSA.
    * Manning Marable — Co-chair, Committees of Correspondence; Ida B. Wells-W.E.B. Du Bois Network.
    * Togi Marshall — Washington, DC, alleged CPUSA.
    * Denice (Dee) Myles — Chicago, CPUSA.
    * Charlene Mitchell — Co-chair, Committees of Correspondence; staff, Local 371, AFSCME, former CPUSA presidential candidate.
    * Leith Mullings — Professor of Anthropology, City University of New York Graduate School; Ida B. Wells-W.E.B Du Bois Network, close to CCDS.
    * Salim Muwakkil — Chicago, writer for the DSA linked magazine In These Times.
    * Prexy Nesbitt — Chicago, alleged CPUSA.
    * Barbara Ransby — Chicago.
    * Joe Sims — CPUSA; Editor, Political Affairs.
    * Lasker Smith — Ecorse, MI, CPUSA.
    * Jarvis Tyner — CPUSA.
    * Cornel West — Cambridge, MA, DSA.

  77. Don’t look if you haven’t had breakfast yet.

    between this and the story of a woman at a yoga class who recounts that at the end of the class, instead of chanting Ommmm the group started chanting o-ba-ma it’s enugh to turn your stomach.

    news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//081003/481/b9bd8c072fdd4d8da8a10d013c9fe226/

  78. I guess Obam’s inclusion in the “New Party” is not nearly as newsworthy as Todd Palin’s alleged membership in an Alaskan Secessionists group.

    With these guys as the “Character witnesses” for Obama – I’m with Todd Palin!

  79. hmmmmmm……

    I think we all heard about this yesterday but it’s at the top of drudge now.

    Palin says Obama’s comments disqualify him to be CIC.

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/03/cameron-interviews-post-debate-palin/

  80. Can’t get this to go through.

    I said don’t look if you haven’t had breakfast. between this and the yoga class lady who said at the end of the session the group started chanting o=ba=ma instead of ommmmm it’s enough to turn your stomach.

    drudge – left column – 8 stories or so down.
    yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//081003/481/b9bd8c072fdd4d8da8a10d013c9fe226/

  81. Can’t get this to go through.

    I said don’t look if you haven’t had breakfast. between this and the yoga class lady who said at the end of the session the group started chanting o=ba=ma instead of ommmmm it’s enough to turn your stomach.

    drudge – left column – 8 stories or so down.

  82. t4h, Rick Noriega is a good guy. His campaign manager was a big Hillary fan, worked her rally with me here in San Antonio.

    I have been on Rick’s mailing list from the beginning, and he NEVER, ever even mentions Obama or the DNC in his mailers and emails. I get the feeling he wants nothing to do with Obama. He’d be an ally for our Hill in the senate, I believe.

  83. Good Morning

    Was the women who was a comedian and who told the Palin rape joke discussed on this web site.

    You only have to ask yourself if you replace Palin’s name with Os name would you say it. I don’t think so. Now she tries to explain it.

    Does not sell.

  84. Wow, I haven’t posted here in months – but I used to back in the primaries. I’ve been hanging out at No Quarter. Anyways, Fox is reporting that there is a “front-page” story in the NY Times – yes, the NY Times, about the Obama-Ayers relationship, which documents (finally) that the relationship is something deeper than just “some guy who lives in the neighborhood.” This is a FIRST, since MSM has totally ignored the Ayers story until now. Is the worm starting to turn – and does anybody have a link to this story?

  85. peppermintgirl4145

    Obama and the DNC have absolutely one goal and that doesn’t include caring about anything accept how much money you can donate and who you are going to vote for.

    I think it was very classy of McCain’s campaign to send a thank you to you.

  86. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?em

    Here’s a link to the NY Times story, which provides some detail, but the slant of the story is actually comical. It downplays the Ayers relationship, stating that the two weren’t close and that Ayers didn’t have any influence over Obama. I thought it was amusing the way they reported that Obama just happened to cross paths with Ayers on the Annenberg project from 1995-1999 – and then they “just happen” to cross paths again on the Woods board in 1999.

  87. I lived through the weathermen times. I was shocked that people at this high academic level would become domestic terrorists. They took the law into their own hands, rather than work through the system to change it.

    Some of them disappear into the woodwork, and recently a women I think was arrested and served time for those crimes she committed.

    In a democracy I do not condone domestic violence. That does not mean you should not protest, and make your opinions know. Strikes can be an effective tool also. But bombing, and killing people, I think is a radical action. I will never forget the bombing of the Oklahoma Federal building in which there was a day care center that they knew was there. As I remember the leader of that was executed.

    So I have to ask what is the differenc here other than time. As to whether good works erases what you have done, I think you have to ask the victims.

  88. It raises the question: Do facts matter? Or is Obama’s rhetoric and the media’s spin enough to make facts irrelevant?
    ——————————————–
    meiyingsu: liberal democracies depend on facts–hard cold empirical facts to make their most important decisions. It is how they survive.

    Totalitarian systems of all hues depend on propaganda. That is what Obama’s rhetoric, lies and media spin amounts to.

    Can the voters tell the difference? Not if Mcain gives him a free pass like he has up to now. He has not answered the question: who is Obama?

    McCain must hammer home the very point which Sowell makes: Fact Number One: It was liberal Democrats, led by Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years– including the present year– denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.

    To sum up he must tell the American People this:

    1. Obama cannot be trusted

    2. Obama is a man with dangerous associations.

    3. Dimocrats responsible for this financial crisis.

    4. Obama will bring us a thousand misfortunes.

  89. McCain, let Todd and Sarah loose in the great state of Michigan!!!! It will make a difference. They are one of them.

  90. meiyingsu: liberal democracies depend on facts–hard cold empirical facts to make their most important decisions. It is how they survive.

    Totalitarian systems of all hues depend on propaganda. That is what Obama’s rhetoric, lies and media spin amounts to.

    Can the voters tell the difference? Not if Mcain gives him a free pass like he has up to now. He has not answered the question: who is Obama?

    ******
    we do need to be mindful that McCain and Clinton both wanted to get more information out to the public about Obama, but the relentless persistence of the media wall is intense – they simply will not allow the information to get out. even now, the only channel that is doing its job is Fox – and the rest of the networks and cable news networks are circling Fox’s wagon. they’re isolating it as the only one critical of Obama. I don’t think Clinton’s campaign knew how to fight this – I don’t know that there is a way to do it.

  91. I love that Todd is by Sarah’s side and so committed to helping her in a positive way.

    In retrospect, just think how helpful Michelle would have been to Obama is she had left her awful racial/I’ll have to think about it…about voting for Clinton/and America is a mean country comments at home.

  92. Palin fundraiser on the Peninsula expecting overflow crowd
    By Mary Anne Ostrom
    Mercury News
    Article Launched: 10/03/2008 07:06:50 PM PDT

    Fresh from the most-watched vice-presidential debate in history, GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin will appear at a Burlingame brunch fundraiser Sunday.

    Organizers said Friday they expect about 1,500 people, a capacity crowd, to hear Palin speak at the Hyatt Regency shortly before noon. Tickets are no longer available. The fundraiser had originally been scheduled for Sept. 25 but was postponed.

    “We’re trying to find room for an extra 200 people,” said Kristen Heuter, who is leading the fundraising effort. Heuter and local GOP party officials said the phones have been ringing off the hook since Thursday night’s debate, which was seen by 69.9 million people, a record for a vice-presidential debate. Viewership topped the presidential debate by nearly 18 million people.

    On Saturday, Palin is scheduled to hold a rally at the Home Depot Center in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson and attend a fundraiser. More than 10,000 people were expected at the rally.

    When she arrives in the Bay Area, Palin can expect to be greeted by hundreds of protesters outside the Burlingame hotel. Democratic party officials and Bay Area anti-war groups are planning to hold an anti-Palin rally.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_10637918
    *****************************************************
    I never realized before how insular the Democrats have become. They’re not trying to change hearts and mind by their ideals but through intimidation.

    I was so happy when Palin won the Debate….and she did for the Dims to call it a tie. Tie my azz, it was a domination.

  93. From the types of political power based upon just a handful of theories when I googled “meaning of politics.” Just one, Machiavelli follows:

    [edit] Niccolò Machiavelli
    From the name of the Renaissance thinker Niccolò Machiavelli has been derived the term “Machiavellian,” referring to an amoral person who employs subterfuge, along with brutal and manipulative methods to attain and retain power.

    [edit] More Extreme Forms
    Machiavelli’s works have been studied and his theories practiced in categorically more extreme forms by totalitarians such as Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, many of whom used chaos and brutality for purposes of state security.[14]

    …Machiavelli considered the stability of the state to be the most important goal, and argued that qualities traditionally considered morally desirable, such as generosity, were undesirable in a ruler and would lead to the loss of power.”

    Which candidate does this describe best- especially “an amoral person who employs subterfuge, along with brutal and manipulative methods to attain and retain power….[some who use] chaos and brutality for purposes of state security”?

  94. While providing some detail, the tone of the NYT article definitely attempts to still downplay the relationship. I thought it was amusing that they claim that Obama and Ayers just happened to “cross paths” from 1995-1999 on Annenberg, and then they just happen to “cross paths” again in 1999 on the Woods board.

    It’s beyond me how any informed citizen can think that this disturbing pattern of Obama associations has nothing to do with who he is – and his qualifications to be President. Hopefully, the McCain campaign will start hitting some of this hard in the time left, so that people who are just starting to pay attention to the election can get educated on who Obama really is.

  95. we do need to be mindful that McCain and Clinton both wanted to get more information out to the public about Obama, but the relentless persistence of the media wall is intense – they simply will not allow the information to get out. even now, the only channel that is doing its job is Fox – and the rest of the networks and cable news networks are circling Fox’s wagon. they’re isolating it as the only one critical of Obama. I don’t think Clinton’s campaign knew how to fight this – I don’t know that there is a way to do it.
    ——————————————-
    I do not buy it. I think there was a reluctance to be ruthess. A bully will push you around until you fight back. Other considerations came into play. From a strategic standpoint, there were certain paths not taken and an unwillingness to recognize this is scorched earth. You can say it is all the media and all the cheating and you are right. In that case if you want to win you have to change the game and that has not been done up to this point. Whether they can do it now or not remains to be seen. If they had acted on advice some of us were passing along things might be different. With the exception of Hannity and Greta I do not see this ominious circling of the wagons. Rather I see FOX as caving in wiht people like OReilly and Heme who have no balls to confront Obama.

  96. Let us make no mistake about it, McCain was running around on his first wife. Both had been through tremendous personnal traumas. It is obvious that he was going with Cindy, before his divorce. However, you measure a person by how they handle their mistakes. McCain said on live TV that his Divorce and first marriage was his greatest failure.

    Ayers, said that he wished he had exploded more bombs.

  97. peppermint:

    I got that short, numble, sincere, honest letter from McCain..

    Meanwhile MAdame Albright sends one of behalf of BO asking me

    “Don’t let BO’s leadership be Diverted, Delayed and Denied”

    What the hell is these 3 Ds for??

  98. I got an email from Hillary asking for help for female senate/house elections.

    After this bailout debaucle, I am not sure I trust a few dems who supported clinton like barney…

    I have decided that I cannot any dem this year…I cannot envisage all 3 branches of the government…house/senate/wh under dems with a filibuster proof senate…

    It would be ultimate social state….even under Hillary….

    Sorry …..!!!!

  99. I think that NYTimes article on Ayers is meant to soften the blow of McCain’s upcoming tough ads. Muddy the field.

  100. mp

    don’t apologize. i am leaning more, every day, towards voting a straight republican ticket for the same reasons. BHO, Pelosi and Company scare the crap outa me.

  101. Regarding the NYTimes trying to soften the blow of McCain’s upcoming touch ads…It still won’t help. Most people don’t read the NYTimes…they just don’t. And in the states Obama is trying to win…it’s NYTimes who?

    The NYTimes is only read to get a feel what is happening back east or the beltway but this year they have been in the tank for Obama that it’s laughable on what little credibility the NYTimes have.

  102. The Sarah Palin Trading Card
    By Robert Paul Reyes

    Sarah Palin has captured the imagination of the American public, she’s fodder for pundits and ratings gold for TV news programs, magazines and newspapers.

    I felt sorry for Joe Biden, I’m sure he was aware that even most Democrats could care less what he had to say, everyone tuned in to the VP debate to marvel at Palin.

    There’s the Palin doll, the Palin cardboard cutout (virtually indistinguishable from the flesh and blood version), and now there’ s the Palin trading card.

    “Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will be added to Topps’ repertoire of trading cards next week as part of its series featuring the main political players on the 2008 campaign trail.

    One card will show Palin taking the oath of office as Alaska’s governor in a black suit – much like the 12 collector cards issued earlier showing Barack Obama, John McCain, Joe Biden and others.

    But Palin will also be featured on a second, limited-edition card as an Alaskan beauty pageant contestant in the 1980s.”

    SFGate.Com

    This freethinker is going to get down on his knees and pray that there will never be a trading care depicting Palin taking the oath of office as vice-president of the United Sates.

    I wouldn’t mind having the limited-edition card, baby got back. Let’s hope that the value of these cards won’t go through the roof because the McCain/Palin ticket wins.

    newsblaze.com/story/20081004074218reye.nb/topstory.html

  103. Regarding the NYTimes trying to soften the blow of McCain’s upcoming touch ads…It still won’t help. Most people don’t read the NYTimes…they just don’t. And in the states Obama is trying to win…it’s NYTimes who?
    —————————————–
    Bingo. It is intellectual tripe for the chattering class to reassure them that they have not lost their sanity. Freud would disagree.

    If I were doing the 527 on Ayers I would present the truth, then show how big media is deceiving them about it, then a reference to the straight talk express.

  104. I said don’t look if you haven’t had breakfast. between this and the yoga class lady who said at the end of the session the group started chanting o=ba=ma instead of ommmmm it’s enough to turn your stomach.
    ——————————————
    They are clueless on what it takes to run a country. They just want to go with the flow and feel good. Passive sheep on a pastoral range just grazing, eating arugula and doing yoga execises. They tell themselves if ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise–and they live by it. So many of this type live in my building.

  105. I am not so dismissive of NYT’s impact with the Ayers story. People who don’t read NYT are not the audience. People in the middle who may dismiss the 527 as another swift boat effort from the vile Repubs will be comforted to think NYT says it is not that big a deal, that Obama was not that close to Ayers.
    ——————
    From NYT via Larry at NQ
    A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close.
    ———————–
    McCain people have to do something really smart here like they did with the celebrity ads — they went to the heart of the matter.

    Here it is not so much the association itself (between Obama and his any number of nefarious friends) but it is the hiding , the cover up, the softening of the blow by the media.. McCain’s people have to really show how unsavory these characters are and then show the lies from Obama and the media.

  106. I remember just eight years ago, how downright scared I was to have GWB elected prez. I thought then, this guy doesn’t know squat, had questionable associations, ran a couple of companies into the ground, got a free ride in the military and bragged about the death penalty in Texas. Prior to that, I remember the absolutely dirty campaign he ran against Richards for gov., I remember thinking this guy was a complete empty suit and was not qualified to be president.

    Now, eight years later, the dems are offering their version of GWB.

    Only this time:

    add coward, a legislator that runs scared, voting present rather than taking a stand,

    add liar, a legislator that promisess one thing one day and then changes his position the next,

    add unfaithful, a legislator that stabs his friends in the back

    add reckless, a legislator that submits his own children to the likes of Jeremiah Wright

    add racist, a legislator that exploits the vulnerabilities of his own race for gain
    ……..

    Can you name a few?

  107. Everybody—PLEASE help us!!
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  108. cant help but feel depressed when these are the people we are facing in obama camp. they’ll do anything to get the throne…
    ***********

    By DIONNE WALKER and MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writers
    2 hours, 24 minutes ago

    RICHMOND, Va. – Undaunted by the heat, James Bailey spent his late-summer afternoons walking Virginia’s bleakest neighborhoods on the hunt for ex-cons — each a potential voter who might cast the decisive ballot in this hotly contested state.

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    Finding them isn’t the hard part. It’s getting them to admit that a past mistake has kept them from the ballot box.

    “People are really, really reluctant to say, ‘I lost my rights to vote,'” Bailey said of his quest, which continued in the run-up to Monday’s registration deadline in Virginia for the November election.

    Nationally, there are roughly 4 million released felons whose convictions have cost them the right to vote at least temporarily, if not permanently. To return to the ballot box, felons must negotiate suffrage laws that vary from state to state, in many cases working with election officials who can be both unfamiliar with the law and hostile to former convicts seeking to register.

    Such challenges matter little to Bailey and others trying to return former criminals to voter rolls, an effort they consider crucial in light of the results of the past two presidential elections: A shift of a few hundred votes in Florida in 2000 would have changed the outcome of the presidential race, and the results in 2004 came down to a margin of 119,000 votes in Ohio.

    The nonprofit groups and individual activists making the push on felons’ behalf agree the effort is broader this year than in previous elections, even if they aren’t necessarily making a coordinated push. They expect that effort to benefit Barack Obama more than John McCain, given that the population of former felons is disproportionately black.

    Obama has co-sponsored a Senate measure that would allow all ex-felons to vote, but his campaign isn’t directly targeting ex-felons for registration. His campaign does include relevant info on its Web site and educates volunteers so they can explain state laws to those who may not realize they have the right to vote, said spokesman Kevin Griffis.

    “All we’re trying to do is make sure that, if someone is eligible, that they know their rights and that if they want to vote, they can take part,” Griffis said Tuesday. “I think there’s a lot of misinformation out there. Even people who may have been guilty of a misdemeanor feel like the felony laws apply to them and say they can’t vote.”

    McCain has said states should decide whether felons have voting rights. But he personally believes ex-felons should forfeit certain rights when they commit a serious crime and that the right to vote should be restored only on a case-by-case basis — much like Virginia’s process.

    Roughly 13 percent of black men nationwide have lost the right to vote, according to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s School of Law, which advocates the reform of felon voting rights. Black ministers, civic leaders and activists believe they are a rich source of votes for Obama.

    “Of course I would go with Barack,” said Deshawn Tatem, a dreadlocked drug dealer-turned-activist from Chesapeake, Va. But he’s never cast a ballot. “Right at 18, I caught the felony.”

    Tatem has never made the time to fill out an application to restore his voter rights, a request that would have to be approved by the governor. That means there’s no way he’ll be able to vote in November.

    In Florida, where a new rule means more than 115,000 former felons who completed their sentences are now able to vote, civil rights attorney Reggie Mitchell said he’s nonpartisan when he calls felons at home to give them information about registering to vote. But he also acknowledges the obvious.

    Blacks represent “about 40 percent of the people who’ve gotten their rights lost and restored,” Mitchell said. “With an African-American running, and such a critical mass, this could have a tremendous impact.”

    Kenneth Glasgow served 14 years on robbery and drug charges in Alabama. Now a pastor, Glasgow launched a voter registration drive inside the prisons in Alabama, where state law allows voting by felons convicted of lesser crimes such as possession of small amounts of drugs, battery or attempted burglary — even while still serving a sentence.

    Glasgow, a Democrat, estimates as many as 70,000 felons in Alabama might be eligible to vote but haven’t registered. Bringing them to the polls, he said, has the potential to alter the state’s political landscape.

    “It’s not a black-white thing,” Glasgow said. “It’s that people will see Republicans standing against having people’s rights restored while the Democrats aren’t.”

    The state Department of Corrections halted Glasgow’s registration drive after two days because of complaints from the chairman of the Alabama Republican Party that registering inmates without adequate monitoring could lead to voter fraud. Fewer than 80 inmates filled out registration forms. The NAACP Legal Defense Fund has filed suit challenging the prison commissioner’s decision to stop the registration drive.

    Only two states — Maine and Vermont — place no limits on voting due to a criminal conviction; even prison inmates can cast a ballot. Kentucky and Virginia are the only two states that permanently bar felons from voting, although the governors of those states can restore voting rights to individuals.

    Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear streamlined the process in March, and has since restored the rights of more than 740 released convicts. Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine promised to fast-track applications for voter restoration that his office received by Aug. 1, adding three people to his staff to process applications before Monday’s registration deadline.

    Applications in Virginia jumped from 76 for all of July 2007 to 138 in a single week this summer. Kaine, the governor for nearly three years, had restored the rights of 2,633 felons as of Monday, according to his spokesman, Gordon Hickey.

    Laws in the other 46 states are varied, some of them a relic of the Jim Crow era, according to the Brennan Center. Eight states permanently bar felons convicted of certain crimes from voting, while the others restore the right after a sentence is completed, including parole, or as soon as an inmate is released from prison.

    Faulkner Fox, who leads organizing efforts for the group “Durham for Obama” in North Carolina, said volunteers there frequently explain to shocked ex-felons that they can register to vote.

    The confusion isn’t limited to felons. Researchers at the Brennan Center and the American Civil Liberties Union interviewed election officials in 23 states from 2003 to this year. In a report released Wednesday, the groups said many officials in those states didn’t understand voter eligibility rules for felons or how they can register to vote.

    Among the problems: officials telling those convicted of misdemeanors they had lost the right to vote, failing to distinguish between probation and parole, and illegally demanding documentation. The researchers also found election officials who said they wouldn’t help a felon register, which concerns civil rights groups such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

    “We still find election officials at the polls in too many cases only ask African-American males if (they) have a felony offense,” said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP Washington bureau.

    The confusion works both ways. In some cases, the researchers found election officials willing to register felons who were not yet eligible to cast a ballot under that state’s law — a potential case of criminal voter fraud.

    The ACLU, the NAACP and others support a nationwide standard that would restore voting rights to all inmates once they leave prison.

    “Once a single local election official misinforms a citizen that he is not eligible to vote because of a past conviction, it is unlikely that citizen will ever follow up or make a second inquiry,” the ACLU and Brennan Center report said. “The citizen will mistakenly believe that he is ineligible to vote for years, decades, or maybe the rest of his life.”

    But getting the information right, and then registering felons, isn’t a guarantee of results. Tatem, the former felon from Virginia, isn’t sure how much of a difference people like him will make.

    “If they got their rights tomorrow, most of them probably still wouldn’t vote,” he said. “When you’ve been caged for so long, you can leave that cage open and some folk won’t go through.”

    ___

  109. McCain people have to do something really smart here like they did with the celebrity ads — they went to the heart of the matter.

    Here it is not so much the association itself (between Obama and his any number of nefarious friends) but it is the hiding , the cover up, the softening of the blow by the media.. McCain’s people have to really show how unsavory these characters are and then show the lies from Obama and the media.
    ——————————————-
    That is about right. The NYT article will be republished in every local paper in the country. This is the problem with their wait til the last minute stategy with this stuff. Now it appears to be nothing more than a reaction and no rebuttal will be effective. Unless they do as you say.

  110. mp,

    ‘I have decided that I cannot any dem this year…I cannot envisage all 3 branches of the government…house/senate/wh under dems with a filibuster proof senate…

    It would be ultimate social state….even under Hillary….

    Sorry …..!!!!
    *****************

    i agree…
    i sent a message back, saying sorry, i just cant do it this time. i just dont trust my own party…

  111. Someone made mention of something I hadn’t really noted until now,
    WHERE ARE OBAMA”S FRIENDS AND FAMILY?

    I’m not talking about legislators, I’m talking about real people?

    Hillary had tons of them, McCain has shown lifelong military buddies, Palin has shown her wide net of personal support…

    Aside from a wife and 2 kids…(can’t count the kenya group or the hidden granny) where is the rest of this guys inner circle????

  112. Countthevotes said: More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.
    ==============

    Shoulcn’t that be SMALL DONATIONS? If the names aren’t disclosed, how do we know it is really different people?

    Haven’t they caught at least a few cases where one person made many small donations that added up to way over the max out limit?

  113. noquarter:
    *************

    Thanks to reader catsrclean for the link.

    In May, I wrote a piece entitled, Obama Snubs Black Media. Well it’s finally all caught up to the Democratic Party and Barack Obama— and they are reaping what they has sown.

    Black Agenda Report has recently covered this problem as well, and you can hear a blockbuster audio commentary about this subject. Don’t miss it! Click here.

    ”Never in the history of commercial Black media has a candidate for national office gotten as much free publicity of all kinds, as Barack Obama has reaped from Black-owned media.” But he still shorted them on campaign advertising.

    From the Orlando Sentinel:

    Black-Owned media seeking more advertising dollars from Democrats

    Jeff Kunerth
    Orlando Sentinel(September 23, 2008) A black-owned radio station in Daytona Beach began running ads Monday criticizing the Democratic Party for ignoring black voters in the first salvo of a long-simmering dispute between the black press and Barack Obama’s campaign.
    Black-owned radio stations and newspapers have complained to the Florida Democratic Party about the dearth of political ads placed in black-owned media. A lack of response prompted the radio ads on 1590 AM (WPUL), said Charles W. Cherry II, publisher of The Florida Courier, a statewide black newspaper.
    “If you want to win by getting black people to vote in the state of Florida, you must actively engage the black community’s political culture. A large part of this culture is black-owned media,” said Cherry, whose family owns 11 radio stations and two newspapers, including The Daytona Times.
    Cherry said black media owners will meet today to discuss when to start running the ads statewide.

    Leonard Joseph, executive director of the Florida Democratic Party, said the party and the campaign have advertised in black media in recent weeks and plan to do more.

    “We will continue to advertise in minority-owned outlets between now and the end of the election,” he said.

    Newspaper ads planned for next week take the national Democratic Party to task for spending $20 million on Hispanic-voter outreach nationally and $6.5 million in Florida political ads but putting very little money into black media in Florida.

    The black press’ frustration with the Obama campaign is the continuation of hard feelings that date to previous Democratic presidential candidates who failed to funnel media dollars into black-owned media, said Keith Longmore, publisher of the Pine Hills-based West Orlando News.

    “The Florida Democratic Party has a history of neglecting the black folks in how it spends its marketing dollars,” Longmore said.

    Democrats are content to draw 85 percent to 92 percent of the black vote, Cherry said, but for Obama to win Florida, he needs to significantly raise the number of black voters. To do that, he said, Democrats must engage not only the black media, but also black community-based organizations.

    The Obama campaign said it has worked extensively in black communities to register voters. It opened campaign offices in black neighborhoods, visited black barbershops and beauty salons, held neighborhood barbecues and sent voter-information press kits to black media outlets.

    “The Obama campaign has an extensive outreach effort throughout the state of Florida, including the African-American community, which we will continue to drive through Election Day,” said Adora Andy, Obama’s Florida regional communications director.

    Joseph said the party has spent a great deal of manpower registering black voters and urging them to vote early or by absentee ballot.

  114. evidently the dimocrats have expanded the new coalition to include thugs–convicted ones.

    as a bot might say even the meanest creature deserves a second chaunce.

    can we assume that they will also be part of the governing coalition?

    wait a minute–they aleady are–silly me.

  115. Re: The NYT article on Ayers

    Just before I read your comments, I sent this letter to the NYT:

    Obama and ’60s Bomber should be in your fiction department: “A story based on the life of Obama and Ayers”.

    There is more investigative reporting in Goldilocks.

    How can a reporter do a story about CAC and Obama and never mention that Ayers founded it and was one of four people including Obama? How could he never mention the founding principles of CAC? How could he never mention the outcome in the schools?

    How could he never quote from anyone who saw a greater connection than “crossing paths”?

    I guess you have dropped any standards or oversight, at least during this election period.

    How sad for all of us.

  116. WHERE ARE OBAMA”S FRIENDS AND FAMILY?
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    they prefer to remain anonomous for obvious reasons. The public would not like them.

  117. ahh, Debbie…what a good question!

    Obama’s friends are noticeably absent. Instead we have the Dem Party vouching for his intelligence and greatness for the year he was in Washington before he started running with their blessings.

    College friends? Two Pakistani.

    Law firm colleagues? Not clear but Michele’s will be everywhere in an O administration….ohhhhhh, I’m sorry I even typed that.

    Community that he ‘organized’? They’re too frozen to come forward.

  118. Shoulcn’t that be SMALL DONATIONS? If the names aren’t disclosed, how do we know it is really different people?

    Haven’t they caught at least a few cases where one person made many small donations that added up to way over the max out limit?
    ——————————————–
    turndown we know for a fact that in many cases it is the same person dividing up their contributions as many as 100 times and sending them through as small donations. A substantial amount of the seed money comes from overseas according to something I saw on this blog yesterday. My comment at the time was the closer you look at this guy the more he looks like the proverbial manchurian candidate who knows how to exploit the fault lines in our society.

  119. Should people be allowed to were McCain or Obama TShirts when they go to the polls to vote?

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_el_pr/what_voters_wear;_ylt=AgJr_jTvrhao5S9zI1wcW4QEtbAF

  120. Should there be a push to get ex-cons registered to vote solely for the purpose of affecting the outcome of the election?

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_el_pr/felons_voting;_ylt=AmUPtGSMIZeT.xVvGZArnNcEtbAF

  121. By MARY JACOBY and T.W. FARNAM

    Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin released her tax returns and personal financial disclosure report Friday, showing her to be the lowest earner of the four national candidates.

    Sarah Palin
    Gov. Palin and her husband, Todd, an oil-field worker and small-businessman, had a combined adjusted gross income of $166,000 in 2007, up from $128,000 in 2006, the tax returns show.

    The Alaska governor’s financial information was released a day after a debate with Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden in which Gov. Palin repeatedly identified herself as middle class.

    Republican presidential candidate John McCain paid more for household help last year—$270,000—than his running mate and her husband earned. Sen. McCain reported $852,000 in household income in 2007. His wife, Cindy, an heiress to a beer distributorship fortune, files her tax returns separately. Her returns showed $6 million of income in 2006.

    Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama, and his wife, Michelle, reported income of $4.2 million last year, according to tax returns released earlier this year. Their income included $3.9 million from book royalties.

    Todd Palin
    Sen. Biden and his wife, Jill, reported $320,000 in adjusted gross income last year. Their tax returns, released earlier this year, were notable for how little they gave to charity: $995, or less than 1% of their income.

    The Palins gave somewhat more: $3,325 last year, including items donated to the Salvation Army, or 1.5% of their adjusted gross income.

    Sarah Palin is the breadwinner of the family, the documents show. Last year as Alaska governor she earned $122,000 in the “Medicare wages” field of her W-2 form, while Todd Palin earned $46,600 as an employee of BP Exploration Alaska Inc.

    Todd Palin also reported a net profit of $15,500 from a commercial fishing business. But the champion snow-machine racer reported a loss of nearly $10,000 from his racing venture.

    As citizens of Alaska, the Palin family and their children are eligible for dividends from the state from energy revenues. Gov. Palin reported on her financial disclosure form that those dividends were worth between $10,000 and $30,000 to her family for last year and 2008.

    The Palin’s largest asset is their home in Wasilla, Alaska, valued at between $500,000 and $1 million. They own a fishing leasehold on the Nushagak River in Alaska worth between $100,000 and $250,000, and various mutual funds and stocks worth between $113,000 and $470,000. The form requires disclosure of asset values in broad ranges.

  122. Did you all see the bit on Fox (I think) about stealing this election in Ohio? Seems they allow NON-PARTISAN people to drive the honeless and others to the polls to register and vote at the same time.

    The reporter interviewed one of these drivers who said she was an Obama supporter. She said “I tell them to vote for Obama.” And what do they do? She said, “They say OK”. (This is not verbatim but accurate)

    When she realized what she had said she said “No no, I have to go.” They have a week to break the law and steal Ohio.

  123. About Obama not suited for CIC — I agree. In July/August of 2007, he made a speech and issued a written ‘position paper’ which talked about US going into Pakistan — our ally — without the permission of the Pakistani government. This got him burned in effigy in Pakistan. Hillary and Bush had to try to repair that. Obama also said he wanted to MOVE troops from Iraq to “the real battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan.”

    This is not the sort of thing yo say out loud in public just to make yourself look hawkish for a campaign!

    I put a lot of quotes and cites on this at
    h t t p : / / 1950democrat.livejournal.com

  124. micheal shear, washington post:
    *********

    Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama’s character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat’s judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.

    With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain’s team has decided that its emphasis on the senator’s biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan’s campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

    “We’re going to get a little tougher,” a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. “We’ve got to question this guy’s associations. Very soon. There’s no question that we have to change the subject here,” said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Being so aggressive has risks for McCain if it angers swing voters, who often say they are looking for candidates who offer a positive message about what they will do. That could be especially true this year, when frustration with Washington politics is acute and a desire for specifics on how to fix the economy and fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is strong.

    Robert Gibbs, a top Obama adviser, dismissed the new McCain strategy. “This isn’t 1988,” he said. “I don’t think the country is going to be distracted by the trivial.” He added that Obama will continue to focus on the economy, saying that Americans will remain concerned about the country’s economic troubles even as the Wall Street crisis eases somewhat.

    Moments after the House of Representatives approved a bailout package for Wall Street on Friday afternoon, the McCain campaign released a television ad that challenges Obama’s honesty and asks, “Who is Barack Obama?” The ad alleges that “Senator Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes. Ninety-four times. He’s not truthful on taxes.” The charge that Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes has been called misleading by independent fact-checkers, who have noted that the majority of those votes were on nonbinding budget resolutions.

    A senior campaign official called the ad “just the beginning” of commercials that will “strike the new tone” in the campaign’s final days. The official said the “aggressive tone” will center on the question of “whether this guy is ready to be president.”

    McCain’s only positive commercial, called “Original Mavericks,” has largely been taken off the air, according to Evan Tracey of the Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks political ads.

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s performance at Thursday night’s debate embodied the new approach, as she used every opportunity to question Obama’s honesty and fitness to serve as president. At one point she said, “Barack Obama voted against funding troops [in Iraq] after promising that he would not do so.”

    Palin kept up the attack yesterday, saying in an interview on Fox News that Obama is “reckless” and that some of what he has said, “in my world, disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief.”

    McCain hinted Thursday that a change is imminent, perhaps as soon as next week’s debate. Asked at a Colorado town hall, “When are you going to take the gloves off?” the candidate grinned and replied, “How about Tuesday night?”

    Yesterday in Pueblo, Colo., McCain made clear that he intends to press Obama on a variety of familiar GOP themes during the debate, as he accused the Democrat once again of getting ready to raise taxes and increase government spending.

  125. Liberals Rethink Free Speech
    By Rich Lowry

    Barack Obama has already brought change. He’s ended the “chilling effect.”

    Any restrictions on speech — real or imagined — were once inevitably deemed to have a “chilling effect” on people who would otherwise exercise their First Amendment rights if they weren’t so frightened by the possibility of running afoul of the law. Claims of a “chilling effect” were the most reliable weapon in the American Civil Liberties Union’s absolutist campaign against, say, even the most common-sensical laws against obscenity.

    But the politics of free speech has been subtly shifting. Opponents of the ACLU on the Right are increasingly worried about overreaching rules against “hate speech” defining legitimate opinions as out of bounds. Meanwhile, the same people who forever decry the country’s imminent descent into the dark night of fascism are now comfortable regulating political speech in federal law and banning speech on college campuses. The Left has learned to like some chill with its free speech.

    Enter the Obama campaign, which reflects the new ethos. It twice issued “Obama Action Wire” alerts for activists to call a Chicago radio station and try to shut down appearances by two Obama critics, writers Stanley Kurtz and David Freddoso. No “chilling effect” here. CNN and the Chicago Tribune reported on the effort to silence Obama’s detractors, but mostly by way of noting the Obama camp’s tech-savvy mustering of its supporters.

    When an outside group ran TV ads pointing out links between Obama and the former Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers, the Obama campaign asked the Bush Justice Department — yes, that Bush Justice Department, the fount of all evil — to open a criminal investigation.

    The Obama campaign’s effort dovetails with the work of an outfit called Accountable America, run by a former MoveOn.org operative. It is devoted to threatening conservative donors with legal action and exposure of any embarrassing details of their private lives if they give money to groups running ads against Obama. The New York Times account says the group hopes to create “a chilling effect,” but the phrase is used non-pejoratively.

    Liberal editorial boards have apparently lost their former zest for the First Amendment. Consider this approving sentence from a New York Times editorial: “The wholesale descent into Swift Boat campaigning has been blocked — for now — by a federal judge in Virginia.” It was written about a judge denying an injunction against the Federal Election Commission sought by a pro-life group running radio ads attacking Obama. The group thinks the First Amendment protects political speech; unfortunately, the courts disagree.

    But the Times goes beyond mere legalities. It asserts with no evidence that the group’s advertising is “lies,” then urges the FEC to “be vigilant for what will inevitably be fresh attempts to mislead voters with fresh lies.” Here’s a newspaper charging a governmental agency with policing and shutting down campaign ads it doesn’t like.

    It’s all just a taste of what’s to come if Obama wins and Democrats have even bigger majorities in Congress, emboldening them to try to crush their antagonists once and for all. “Hate is not a family value” was a popular bumper sticker on the left during the 1990s. Now, the left has embraced hate as, if not a family value, the organizing spirit of its long assault on George W. Bush, and anyone else in the way, from Joe Lieberman to Sarah Palin.

    America’s partisan politics has always featured its share of rancorous abuse, but there’s something rancid at the heart of the new, blog-driven left that believes its bullying childishness has led the way out of the wilderness. This spirit will inevitably seep into an Obama administration. Whatever Obama’s professions of his commitment to cross-partisan understanding, he’s never confronted the left of his own party and has always been willing to engage in hardball when it suits his purposes.

    Little Keith Olbermanns will surely be burrowed throughout his executive branch, eager to chill the speech of the “worst people in the world.”

  126. sorry, this is a long article, so i’ll post in two parts. its good, but i know some dont like to see long posts… just bored i guess…

    *****Factors that Could Lead to Obama’s Downfall
    by Lorie Byrd
    Change is an effective mantra in elections following two consecutive terms by one party in office. That is especially the case when the current officeholder is unpopular and the economy is weak. Barack Obama has that as a tremendous advantage in this race and recent polls breaking his way show it, but there are some significant factors that could still lead to his undoing.

    When you look at the unpopularity of the current administration, the financial crisis that has overshadowed all other issues, the fawning media and the promise of a charismatic young figure offering change, it would appear this race is over. In fact, it would not be surprising if that candidate were leading by twenty points by now. Prospects are certainly looking good for an Obama win at this time, but there are a few factors that can still work in John McCain’s favor. Obama’s liberal voting record, his far left associations and the fact that Democrats control the Congress could all still cause trouble for Obama.

    Obama is spending significantly more in my state of North Carolina than McCain, so I see a lot of Obama ads. One I saw several times this week was incredibly reminiscent of some Bill Clinton ads from 1996. I remember the Clinton ads because even though I opposed him, I was impressed by how good and how persuasive they were. Bill Clinton sat in what looked like could be a living room, or perhaps a large homey office, with natural lighting, and talked directly to the camera. He told voters that he was for a middle class tax cut and for “ending welfare as we know it.” I couldn’t argue with either of those ideas. I knew enough about the Democratic party at the time to know it was pretty unlikely that would happen, but I had to admit it sounded good.

    When Clinton promised those things, the economy had already begun, and was maintaining, a steady recovery. That didn’t stop him from referring to it as the worst economy in 50 years, though, and the nation bought it. Now we have an economic situation that both candidates agree is one of the most dire our country has faced. In spite of the fact that Democratic policies are largely to blame, the unpopular sitting Republican President and his party are going to be saddled with the majority of the blame. Those in the media will ensure they are, regardless of whether or not they are deserving of it.

    In the Obama ad I have seen many times this week, he is sitting in a setting very similar to the one Bill Clinton used in 1996. Also like Clinton, he talks directly into the camera and promises tax cuts for the middle class. Will this approach be as effective for Obama as it was for Clinton?

    A big difference between Bill Clinton and Barack Obama is that Clinton could credibly claim to be a moderate. He was a governor from a southern state. Southern Democrats are sometimes just as conservative as their Republican counterparts. Barack Obama is from Chicago and he has an unbelievably liberal voting record both as a state legislator and in the United States Senate. Barack Obama has voted against tax cuts or for tax increases 94 times. Obama has a liberal track record that should set off voters’ alarm bells. Why should anyone believe he would now cut taxes when he has consistently opposed them for so many years?

    Bill Clinton promised tax cuts, but even in an economy that was recovering nicely, he came back to voters barely a month in office and said that in spite of working as hard as he had ever worked, he was not going to be able to deliver them. There are certainly many excuses Obama could find to back out of his tax cut promise, but even if he did come through on it, there is another problem with it. Obama’s tax plan is hard on small businesses. Even though many lower and middle income individuals would see less taxes personally, small businesses would face a bigger tax burden. Those small businesses employ lower and middle income people. If voters understand that the same tax policy that might allow them a bit more money in their refund checks could also put them in the unemployment line, they might not be so eager to vote for it. The only way they will know that though is if John McCain can successfully make that point.

    The only reason Bill Clinton delivered on his “ending welfare as we know it” pledge was because after vetoing it twice, he was told that he had to pass it or he would lose his re-election. He therefore signed a welfare reform bill that a Republican majority had passed. That brings up another factor that could work in McCain’s favor. Voters favor divided power. Continued…

  127. The Democrats currently control both the House and Senate and barring some extreme unforeseen circumstances will not only continue to hold, but most likely increase their margins of control. Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate. Most far left liberal policies are not terribly popular with American voters, but if the Democrats control the White House and all of Congress, voters will have essentially given them a blank check to do just about anything they want. One only has to look at the extreme liberal voting record of Barack Obama, as well as the liberal agendas and records of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to see what they can expect in an Obama presidency.

    It should be obvious to voters that an Obama presidency along with a Democrat-controlled Congress would result in the most liberal policies many of us have seen in our lifetimes or imagined in our wildest nightmares. Add to that the very real possibility that a President Obama would appoint two or three Supreme Court judges. There would be virtually no check on the power held by liberal Democrats and they would feel emboldened by the election to claim a mandate for anything they proposed.

    This is a scenario that should frighten all but those in the most extreme left wing of the Democrat Party, but I don’t think it is a scenario that most voters have really considered. Those in the media are not going to write or talk about Obama’s extreme liberal voting record, just as they have not, and will not, investigate his associations with the likes of domestic terrorists, slumlords, and fat cats that fleeced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It is up to the McCain campaign to draw that picture for the voters.

    Those on the left will say it is fear mongering, even though for years they have warned of the extreme right wing and the fascist dictator state that America would become under Republican governance. They can’t do that with John McCain, who has so often been in opposition to conservatives. Since he would almost certainly have a Congress controlled by Democrats, any attempt to scare Americans with a rightwing fascist state is absurd.

    Those on the left can neither credibly argue that a far left agenda would not prevail in an Obama administration. Barack Obama’s voting record is Exhibit One that is exactly what voters should expect. The case against Obama and complete Democrat control of government is bolstered by crooked associates of Obama such as William Ayers, Tony Rezko, and Rev. JeremiahWright. Additional clues to the leftist paradise that might exist under Obama can be seen in the thuggish attempts to silence his critics, whether it be his goons trying to shut down talk radio interviews or his operatives in state offices who are threatening to sue anyone who makes claims about Obama they deem false.

    It would be no mystery to voters that an Obama presidency would be dominated by a far left liberal agenda if they were looking at the track records and associates of the candidates. Instead they are largely being shown an illusion of a modern day Messiah who is ready to unite the country and solve all its problems. They are being shown images of adorable children singing songs of worship and praise to Obama who is going to “rearrange” things to make them right. They are being given fluffy, puffy stories about the candidate by those who profess to be news reporters. The veil is so thin, really, if you know what stands behind it. Whether or not the McCain campaign can lift that veil in the final month of this campaign will determine the course of the country in ways we can only now imagine.

  128. A few of the good articles on RealClearPolitics today:
    Do Facts Matter This Election? – Thomas Sowell, RealClearPolitics
    *Crossed Paths: Obama & Ayers – Scott Shane, New York Times
    Liberals Rethink Free Speech – Rich Lowry, New York Post

    The NYT article is good only in the sense that it is SOOOOOO bad. It is a whitewash of Obama/Ayers.
    Send a note to the NYT after you read it.

  129. Expect to hear Obama and/or Axelrod say: “That’s a lie. The NYT has thoroughly examined the Ayers charges and found them to be just two guys whose path crossed.”

  130. h t t p : / / blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-about-to.html
    Comments and box below, my name was already in it from previous alerts.

    Obama About to Be Hit on Questionable Associates

    Meaning you should expect to hear much more about these Obama associates — some questions fair, others not; many associates legitimately slimy, others mere road kill on this political Autobahn — in this last full month of the campaign.

    To wit: the Washington Post reports that Sen. John McCain’s campaign …. is about to open up a can of whoop-ass on Obama with a focus on his personal associations.
    [[ While you’re at Tapper’s, here are more comment strings: ]]

    * Obama About to Be Hit on Questionable Associates
    * McCain’s Brazilian Ex-Flame Raised By Campaign As Evidence of Experience in Latin America
    * Palin-Biden Debate Sets VP Ratings Records

  131. If MccAins going to do an ad of Obamas dodgy associates, I hope he’s booked an hour long special to fit them all in.

    Thats one fucking long list.

    He should just do an ad, listing them all with pictures, how Obama knows them and give a website address saying “wanna know more of who Obama will take to the WH with him, go here”

  132. You see I dont understand why Obama just not just hand it over, someone needs to grab him on a press conference and say, “why will you not release your BC, what are you afraid of” I think Berg has something here. Its simple logic, everything goes away if he produces it. So THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM. it really begs the question, what is he hiding.

    DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933

    The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama’s American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

    As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he’ll drop the suit.

    Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

  133. moon
    so if it comes to pass that waffles is not eligible to be prez could charges be filed against the dean/pelosi/reid cabal for conspiracy?

  134. No but the Dem party would be in a heck of a lot of shit.

    Also I think it would invalidate the whole Dem ticket, not just Obama.

  135. McCain says he will take the gloves off Tuesday night. Will he? If he wants to win the election then he must.

    If it were me I would hit Obama hard enough to knock his jock strap off, and keep coming at him with the truth. I would call the NYT article a coverup and tell the American People the truth, in a debate forum where big media–or the moderator dare not censor it. I would tell the American people this is what you need to know and all the rest if partisan noise.

    If I had any misgivings about the objectivity of the moderator, I would saturate the airways and talk radio with same. Notice how four days after the fact Ifel is carrying on about how the doubts raised about her objectivity did not affect her. Truth is the opposite. It forced her to be objective. She is still explaining.

    I would tell myself over and over again what it is at stake here is the future of our nation and we cannot allow it to fall into the hands of thugs like Obama anymore than we can allow it to fall at the hands of foreign enemies. Obama is a clear and present danger to our country and anyone who fails to realize that and understand why has not done their homework.

    Yup, that is what I would tell myself if it were me.

  136. Just heard on Fox that Palin is in Colorado and has started very hard the attacks on Obama/Ayers, she is saying that Obama is paling around with terrorists and hitting hard and says the American people have the right to know! It is starting TODAY!!!!!

    The war has begun. Seems they want to wait until the last month when people are fully paying attention, we were right.

  137. ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is accusing Democrat Barack Obama of “palling around with terrorists” for his association with a former 1960s radical.

    Palin was referring to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. The group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h2TC1ztefVzOiXeCNcmY7lIelBNwD93JRMQ81

  138. You see I dont understand why Obama just not just hand it over, someone needs to grab him on a press conference and say, “why will you not release your BC, what are you afraid of” I think Berg has something here. Its simple logic, everything goes away if he produces it. So THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM. it really begs the question, what is he hiding.
    ——————————————-
    Here is what I think. Most likely, he cannot prove he meets the eligibility requirements. If he could have, he would have presented the proof and secured a political advantage in the process. Thus the instruction he has given to his terrorist lawyer is delay the thing.

    Hypothetically, if I lose the election, issue becomes moot. If I win, we will tell the right people en camera we are in the midst of a financial crisis, we cannot afford a change in leadership now, there will be riots in the streets, bury it and I will not run for a second term.

    The first part is accurate, the second is supposition and conjecture.

  139. Moon
    do you know if anyone besides fox is reporting it? For the past year I have been trying to relay the info and most said it is internet rumor and if it were true it would be on the evening news. As a gay man I busted my ass for Senator Clinton and tried to explain the flip flops of ovomit, but had very little success.

  140. nikki22 Says:

    October 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    repost from last thread:

    CountTheVotes,
    No, I’m not at a place where I can support Obama yet. Really for me it won’t matter- I live in Tennessee. This state isn’t remotely competitive so my little voting against JM/Palin wouldn’t even make a dent. You know something? I actually want to really be excited about him, about supporting the democratic nominee. I’ve listened to Hillary and the big dawg say why he would be a good president, I’ve tried to be fair and look at the positives of his candidacy. Nobody is perfect I keep telling myself but still there’s just something missing. Can’t quite put my finger on it. So for right now it’s not him or McCain.

    ===
    The trust is missing. And Admin has been saying it over and over too. I read somewhere else too, people aren’t really going to be voting on the economy or defense, its going to boil down to trust. Who do you trust the most. Because trust is something that is missing on both sides, especially after this wallstreet mess.

  141. Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is accusing Democrat Barack Obama of “palling around with terrorists” for his association with a former 1960s radical.

    Palin was referring to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. The group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

    =====
    Glad to hear someone on that side is finally saying it.

  142. Obama is a clear and present danger to our country and anyone who fails to realize that and understand why has not done their homework.
    ===
    Wobbei he really is, and even though its been months now there are times I just do not understand how we got here. An ignorant public coupled with radical techniques and a media not doing their job, and actually enabling this to happen. This man should have never been nominated. He is the most dangerous candidate to have ever run. I am genuinely afraid for the future of our children.

  143. Dems Think McCain’s Michigan Pullout is a Head Fake

    Which means they know the internals are not good for Obama

    On the day after John McCain scratched Michigan from the battleground state list, Barack Obama’s campaign said it would pretend the whole announcement never happened, Democrats wondered if it was all a trick, and Sarah Palin asked for a second chance to win over the state’s voters.

    “We’re not going to be left flat-footed here,” an Obama campaign source said Friday. The source, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said there has been no discussion within the campaign of moving staff to other states, as the McCain campaign said Thursday it will do. For now, Obama’s television ads remain on the air, and the campaign will continue its aggressive field organizing efforts, including a voter registration drive before Michigan’s Monday deadline.

    That will be welcome news to Democratic insiders, who fretted Friday about the possibility of a McCain ruse to lull them into complacency and of fears the Obama campaign would let up on its efforts here.

  144. went to my local McCain campaign office today and signed up. was met with very friendly staff and treated with respect. i was very frank about who i was and the work i did last year in support of HRC. they have an official “Democrats for McCain” group here that they will introduce me to. felt kind of weird, but knowing we only have one month to go, i couldn’t sit back w/o doing something.

    as i left the office and drove down the street, i noticed a fairly large gathering of bots on the state house lawn approaching (all) passersby. yup, i did the right thing.

  145. # debbie Says:
    October 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Someone made mention of something I hadn’t really noted until now,
    WHERE ARE OBAMA”S FRIENDS AND FAMILY?

    I’m not talking about legislators, I’m talking about real people?

    Hillary had tons of them, McCain has shown lifelong military buddies, Palin has shown her wide net of personal support…

    Aside from a wife and 2 kids…(can’t count the kenya group or the hidden granny) where is the rest of this guys inner circle????
    ******
    I think they’re all about to be indicted.

  146. wbboei Says:
    October 4th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    McCain people have to do something really smart here like they did with the celebrity ads — they went to the heart of the matter.

    ******
    “celebrity” was a very effective way to summarize BO.

    I think another good one would be “criminal” – there’s a lot McCain could do with that theme, not only with his Rezko connections, but with the fundraising, with ACORN and the caucus fraud, fraudulent birth certificates on the web – the question becomes to the public, do we want to elect a criminal?

  147. I’m glad Sarah is hitting hard on Obama’s associations. “Palling around with terrorists!” GO, SARAH! Now she needs to start bringing in slumlords and freezing constituents and disappeared money for “education” and the Chicago Machine and the sad state of Obama’s home district in Illinois.

  148. Well, I predicted that it would be less than 6 months before the piggies come back to the trough for more. Seems Paul Krugman today agrees with me – he gives it til Jan 20th until they ask for Bailout 2.0

    I don’t want a damn depression, but I’d rather HAVE ONE and get it over with than keep forking over the money to these pigs time after time after time.

  149. Funny the rumour was Biden was dropping out Oct 4th and look here.

    BREAKING-Biden cancels events as mother-in-law battles illness (Here It Comes?)
    CNN ^ | 10-4-08 | Joe Biden

    Democratic Vice Presidential nominee Joe Biden is cancelling his campaign events for Saturday and Sunday as his mother-in-law battles a serious illness.

    The Senator from Delaware’s campaign spokesman, David Wade, put out a statement saying “the campaign has cancelled Sen. Biden’s schedule today and tomorrow because of a serious illness in Jill Biden’s family. Hospice has advised the Bidens to remain close by, and we appreciate everyone’s respect for the family’s privacy.”

    Biden was scheduled to speak in Washington D.C. and then attend a fund-raiser in the nation’s capitol Saturday night. Sunday he was expected to campaign in Virginia.

  150. re: moonp’s post ^

    God forbid Hillary steps in to take his place, I cannot imagine right now her and Big Dawg trolling for barack, much less her joining his team…

    but politics is a strange world, and she has proven to be a loyal democrat.

  151. ADMIN: PLEASE ENBED THIS VIDEO.

    IT IS A WONDERFUL CLIP FROM THE CLASSIC MOVIE WITNESS FOR THE PROSECTION. IT IS HOW THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS SHOULD BE EXAMINED FOR ALL THE TALL TALES HE HAS TOLD. IT IS WHAT OREILLY FAILED TO DO. IMAGINE OBAMA IN THE ROLE OF MARLENE DIETREICH.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3zA9XaUKQ

  152. Someone made mention of something I hadn’t really noted until now,
    WHERE ARE OBAMA”S FRIENDS AND FAMILY?
    ===
    Talk radio has been talking about this for a while. Especially after the DNC convention. Remember when Kerry ran, and he had a whole row of people he served with come out on the stage? People who got up there and said I’ve known J.K. for x number of years and he will be a good president. Well then you had the swift boat thing, but he had people on the stage. Bush did too. McCain did too. It is normal and expected. Obama had Michelle, that was it. No row of friends or colleagues or people he had worked with in Chicago,no one. Even the Clintons, they talked in generalities, Hillary didn’t say I have gotten to know him since this began and you can trust him. She didn’t say that. She spoke about Dems in general. Because there is no one who can vouche for him. Well other than Wright and Ayers and Rezko, and a whole list of communists who influenced him growing up. He can’t exactly parade those people on stage. That is what is so amazing, this man comes from no where, has no qualifications, its like he hasn’t had a basic background check, and he’s the nomination for president?!?!?!? He doesn’t have a single regular person vouching for him. How the heck did that happen????? If he wasn’t AA (and even that apparantly is questionable), if he didn’t have everyone in the MSM and ACORN covering up and strong arming and threatening people, we wouldn’t even be here. That is why it is so important that he is defeated, this man is dangerous.

  153. http://www.nypost.com/seven/10042008/news/politics/is_joe_hidin_facial_work__132038.htm

    Has Joe Biden had some work done?

    A top Manhattan plastic surgeon thinks so, after comparing some shots from Thursday night’s debate with earlier photos of the Delaware senator.

    “Yes, absolutely, and I would bet my next paycheck on this assessment,” said Dr. Oleh Slupchynskyj, of the Aesthetic Institute.

    After being shown the shots by The Post, the doctor concluded that most of the work was around Biden’s eyes.

    “It appears that he had some sort ‘Lateral Brow/Eyelid Lift,’ ” he told The Post.

    “Whether it be a string lift or a formal surgical lift, [it’s] hard to say. But I would bet on some kind of lateral brow lift with strings or non-invasive technique.”

    Dr. Slupchynskyj also said that he thought that Biden had come to the debate prepared with some Botox injections.

    “He definitely had Botox in the forehead region,” the doctor concluded from the photos.

    Biden’s representatives scoffed at the idea the senator had gone under the knife. They insisted that he has never had any work done.

  154. On Saturday, Palin is scheduled to hold a rally at the Home Depot Center in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson and attend a fundraiser. More than 10,000 people were expected at the rally.

    ===
    I am in Florida, and the people I have talked to who are voting for him are not people who voted in the primary, or they supported him even then. It is amazing how many people really paid no attention until this past month or so, and know very little about him, other than he’s for hope and change. I told one girl if she didn’t know the issues then she shouldn’t vote.

  155. The recent photos of our girl look rugged. This ordeal must be taking its toll. It is tough to support the party when the party is wrong. The people behind Obama have exploited every weakness in this nation. No good can possibly come of this. In times of crisis this is how democracies commit suicide.

  156. countthevotes

    obasma IS a terrorist associated, BLT associated, money bundler, international corporatin/media choice that has done NOTHING for ANYONE but himself, why in the world would you even consider voting for him. He is as much a Dem as Stalin!!!

  157. Jan, thats Hitler youth all over again, seriously we need to get this aired really fast. There’s a facist element growing here.

  158. Turning and turning in a widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer
    Things fall apart the center cannot hold
    Mere anarchy is loosed and everywhere
    The blood dimmend tide is loosed
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned
    The best lack all conviction
    While the worst are full of passionate intensity

    And what rough beast its hour come round at last
    Slouches its way from Chicago to Washington
    To be born?

    Note: this bastardized quote from the Irish poet Yeats sums up my feelings on why we must elect McCain. The alternative is too bleak.

  159. moon,

    my Jewish grandparents and parents would be turning over in their graves about this. It brings tears to my eyes that such actions could ever take place again.

    He must be stopped!

  160. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    I hope Rezko sings like a canary, and soon
    ==============================================
    Me too.

  161. basil9,

    Love your embedded video revealing Democratic lawmakers’ complicity with the Republican administration in telling us all that the economy was sound, that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were also sound.

    Right now I’m watching two completely hysterical economic “experts” on CNN expostulating on how bad the recession/Depression is going to be. They’re truly beside themselves. Hope they’re wrong.

  162. admin,

    HILARIOUS Jackie Mason video saying that Barack Obama has accomplished nothing for his country and John Kerry has accomplished nothing for his country, and that’s why he didn’t vote for John Kerry, and that’s why he’s not going to vote for John McCain. I enjoyed his old-world reference in his best Jewish accent to Sarah Silverman, the Obama bot, as a “sick yenta.”

  163. Who knew that the Leftist agenda is as much an excuse for not thinking through problems as the neofascist agenda? I had never realized that BOTH are propaganda until now. If we as a country can not start solving problems in a nonpartisan fashion, we are in serious, serious trouble.

    I’m voting for John McCain because he has a far better record of working with both sides of the aisle than Obama, who can’t even get along with the half of his party that supported Hillary Clinton, much less the Republicans.

  164. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Gawd. That slime Andrew Sullivan is once again demanding that Plain turn over her medical records on Trig’s birth, including amniocentesis.

    GET UP IN THEM STIRRUPS, WOMAN! HAND ME THE SPECULUM!

    He’s disgusting. One commenter I saw postulated that the source of Andrew’s unhinged rage is that Sarah Palin is capable of bearing Barack Obama’s baby, and poor Andy, however much he yearns to do so, is not.
    ====================================================================
    HillaryforTexas, You are LOL funny! I sure would like to know how Sarah Palin’s medical records regarding Trig’s birth have anything to do with anything.

  165. Tony Rezko is running out of time if his sentencing is set for Oct. 28th. If he’s going to sing for federal prosecutors, he’d better get on with it fast and hard. And if John McCain is going to take the gloves off and tell the truth about Barack Obama, he’d better get on with it fast and hard or this country will be stuck with a fascistic, narcissistic emperor with a newly designed presidential seal.

  166. Rezko needs to understand that even if O’bambi and O’biden steal the election he will never ever be pardoned-regardless of what O’bambi may have promised him. If he becomes president, it will be politically impossible and will be tantamout to an admission. If Rezko tries to turn states evidence after bambi is elected good fucking luck. It will be dismissed as the ravings of a convicted felon. If he has got something to say, the game clock is running out. If not Rezko stay safe and have a nice life. More criminal charged are on the way pal. Nothing personal–its the friends you keep.

  167. wbboei,

    I’m not sure I agree. I think if we are so very unlucky to find Obama winning the W.H., that there will be a lot of stuff that Obama will “command” to be done and ethics be damned.

  168. mariaconz Says:

    October 4th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
    ———————————————
    another great line in the jackie mason clip: I did not vote for Kerry. Does that mean I hate gentiles?

  169. I’m not sure I agree. I think if we are so very unlucky to find Obama winning the W.H., that there will be a lot of stuff that Obama will “command” to be done and ethics be damned.
    ———————————————-
    I concur.

  170. wbboei

    Seeing the corruption that happen in this state, I think it is a preview of what would come.

    They feel the end justifies the means.

  171. I’m not sure I agree. I think if we are so very unlucky to find Obama winning the W.H., that there will be a lot of stuff that Obama will “command” to be done and ethics be damned
    ——————————————–
    Jan- perhaps I missed your point. I do not think he can pardon rezko. It is not a question of ethics, it is a matter of political survival. He is too closely tied in persoanally to do it. And Rezko needs to understand that fact as he decides what his best option is. Witness protection, new identity and secret location is a better alternatives then 300 years with Freddie Krueger (not to be confused with Paul).

  172. They feel the end justifies the means
    ——————————————
    New Mexico: the welfare of the people is always the alibi of tyrants. It is used to justify any means.

    In the Federalist Papers Madison confronted that argument and concluded that the test should be the legality of the means. John Marshall repeated that point in some of the early supreme court cases namely that the test of consitiutionality should be the legality of the means.

    By contrast, after the rable of Paris stormed the Bastile, they decided the end justifed any means and the results were not pretty. I love Edmund Burke’s observation, i.e. the french are so consumed with the rights of man that they have totally forgotten his nature.

  173. wbboei,

    my mistake…lol… I meant that for Obama it doesn’t matter how corrupt the action or what anyone thinks, he thinks he walks on water and can get away with anything.

  174. Truth will out is one of our best hopes to expose the evil that has been in the planning for many months.The Hustler is about to be served his lying tongue and lips on a platter by Fox and the RNC.Now it is time for patriotic Americans of all colors and beliefs.This is my hope for the rescue of our nation now under assault by a group of the most evil individuals and nations that money can buy.Hustler is going to receive the wrath of angry loyal citizens that been asleep while our country slowly is slipping into the hands of individuals yhat are far worse than Adolph,Benito,Adi Amin and Tojo.The DNC must take a large share of the blame for rigging the caucuses and primaries in The Hustlers’ favor.We would not be in this mess if they would have listened to the wishes of the electorate and not robbed Hillary and pushed Hustler into our faces and threatened us with his “Legacy Of Restitution and Retribution “.His supporters are in for a shock when they realize that he alone will be responsible for their backward slide into the world of racial tensions that MLK fought so hard to eliminate.False prophets and fraudulant silver tongue power hungry individuals like This Hustler have to be exposed and banished from our shores.Where can we send him?We dont’t even know where he was born and how he got this close to The Presidency.Wake up you weak kneed fools .Turn off the Sports and the mind weakening programming that is being spoon fed to young and the old and tune in to FOX tomorrow night at 9 and see and hear the real story of the negatives that this evil person carries to his goal to be the CIC and rule as the most famous AA since Paul Robeson to spread communism through our way of life.If you continue to sleep and dream on,you will find the consequences will be unbearable.

    By ABM90 Hillary stay alert and ready for you will prevail.

  175. ABM90: brilliant. Again, you have said it better than I ever could. Now lets both hope you are right. Once upon a time the press were the truth tellers. Today, it is down to a few isolated voices.

  176. Bravo ABM90!

    And on another note,

    wbboei,

    what makes me think that just as Obama’s Illinois paper trail mysteriously disappeared, that if we are punished and he does enter the W.H., that all correspondence will be shredded as quickly as possible to avoid any damage to this idiot?

  177. This militant video thing is gaining traction,

    newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/02/obama-youth-junior-fraternity-regiment

    Obama Youth Junior Fraternity Regiment

    In some ways, this video is even more disturbing than the video of the children singing a tribute to Barack Obama. In this case, we see a bunch of kids dressed in paramilitary uniforms ritualistically shouting out their praise for Obama. Yes, according to the chants, these kids are supposedly inspired to enter various professions all thanks to a certain Chicago Machine politician. This is reminiscent of North Korean kids chanting out their praises for the “Dear Leader.” And is this performance by students of Urban Community Leadership Academy of Kansas City, MO even legal? Here is what the information box says next to this YouTube video:

    I called and spoke to Bernard, who said he was the assistant Dean. He was very gentlemanly and when I voiced my concerns about the video, he told me that this was taken at the school last year when Obama was beginning his campaign. He assured me that they stopped this “regiment” because they felt the person who was organizing it was pushing his political agenda.

    Duh.

    He assured me that he didn’t know it was on YouTube. I gave him the link to where to go for this video and when he found it he said, “Oh this is not good. I had no idea” I told him I’d take his word for it. He then asked me, nicely, “what’s the main concern? Because I want to understand where you’re coming from so that I can figure out how to handle this.”

  178. Admin, am I reading things into HRC speech. I feel that she mentioned the emotion moment on purpose, which would reflect on her emotional moment that was shoved down her throat.

    She also complimented Palin, and then really reflected on the differences between the two parties, with no reference to the quality of people. In 0ther words this was not a personnel attack.

    Interesting.

  179. Here is something I wrote in august that is apropos of what we are discussing now. This is a repost.
    ———————————————-
    H. Soros Ground Game: was developed at the Albert Einstein Institute at Harvard University by Professor Gene Sharpe during the 1990s as a blueprint for aggressive non-violent revolution under programs financed by Soros. Those techniques were first used in Serbia later in the Ukraine (Orange Revolution) and Russia (Rose Revolution), and now in the Obama Campaign. They rely on the Flash Mob technique whereby trained organizers show up en masse at a particular site to intimidate voters, commit inappropriate acts and then receding into the background. They are taught to dress in the same color and chant a single word over and over, i.e. O-BA-MA, O-BA-MA. They use viral marketing through the internet to create an initial buzz about their candidate, and they teach their organizers to reduce their world view to three sentences and their message to three words, i.e. hope, change etc. (LaRouche).
    Six months prior to the primary, thousands of committed volunteers attended “Camp Obama”, a four (4) day indoctrination program, geared at teaching pre-screened Obama volunteers grass roots organizational strategies. The training, which specifically focused on the caucus states, taught volunteers to be “ruthless,” “take risks,” and win at all costs. Obama’s campaign and Camp Obama’s strategy which focused on the vulnerable caucuses and the early primaries worked. The efficacy of these tactics can be seen in the fact that Obama won 13 out of 14 causes but only 17 out of 38 primaries. In the general election these groups will focus on voter education, registration and get out to vote activities. Obama will have a 50 state strategy but the emphasis will obviously be on the swing states.

  180. alcina Says:
    October 4th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    went to my local McCain campaign office today and signed up. was met with very friendly staff and treated with respect. i was very frank about who i was and the work i did last year in support of HRC. they have an official “Democrats for McCain” group here that they will introduce me to. felt kind of weird, but knowing we only have one month to go, i couldn’t sit back w/o doing something.
    as i left the office and drove down the street, i noticed a fairly large gathering of bots on the state house lawn approaching (all) passersby. yup, i did the right thing.
    —————

    Way to go Alcina, thats putting your money where your mouth is…

    Anyone else here thats voting for McCain gonna help with phone calls and such?
    I wonder if they have the same setup for phone calls like Hillary had.

    I’ll do it. I’ll check the McCain website.

  181. sorry admin, I know this is a Hillary site but I can’t back the dem ticket this year nor any of the 3rd party candidates.

    I am submitting my protest vote this year against the dems.

    I hope they hear it, I hope they review what they did wrong.

  182. Palin has completely filled the ADT tennis Stadium in California to the capacity of 120%, over 10,000 there. Its packed apparently.

  183. A man thinks that by mouthing hard words he understands hard things.
    – Herman Melville

    ===
    sound like BHO?

  184. debbie,

    I’m not admin, but a lot of us are using our protest vote for McCain. Most of us I think.

    Welcome to you! {{{ hugs }}}

  185. HAHAHA!!!! Saw this comment on a blog, talking about Sarah bringing up BO’s terrorist buddies:

    I think you ought to ask her to offer a reward of $10,000 to anyone normal who knew BHO before 1994. Apparently he has no friends that weren’t terrorists, racists, thugs, or druggies. Did he ever have any normal person for a friend? There’s no family and no friends campaigning for him- let’s be honest – he fits the profile of someone who would shoot up a highschool more than someone who should hold public office.

    She said ‘he was palling around with terrorists’ earlier today and I think she should just finish the thought: where are the normal people in Obama’s circle?

  186. Wbboei, The Second Coming is one of my favorite works by Yeats. Thanks for posting a piece from that. 🙂

  187. Hey all,
    Glad I have this community here. The “real world” of Obama-mania is driving me nuts. What I love love love is that when people start saying Sarah Palin can’t name a Newspaper or a recent Supreme court case, when asked, they actually can’t name one of their own? Or they tease about Sarah not having an index card for a lot of her answers, not realizing like a good, skilled debater she was writing notes down as she heard them (and wasn’t even allowed cards). And my personally favorite was that Sarah can’t speak in coherent sentences, even though that CNN article pointed out she spoke a 9th grade level as opposed to Biden is at a 7th. Now I’m only 22, but when did our country become so ignorant about checking facts, sources and become fueled by blind hatred? Why are Democrats, who I revere and respect, turning in to crazy right wingers? It’s so disconcerting. No one seems to know what they heck they are talking about, all they know is this side vs. that side and that’s it. It’s so ugly. I miss Hillary.

  188. Debbie, in here, we are likely to want to go round up Pelosi, Obama and the “gang” for a good ole fashioned kicking, quite frankly.

    I’d like to rip her face off and judging by the number of face lifts that thing is held on by a couple of stitches.

  189. I would bet my bottom dollar that he met Ayers in college. They were both at/around Columbia around the same time. I think he got hooked up with him then, and Ayers is the reason he moved to Chicago.

    Ayers is the reason we have ZERO info on Obama’s Columbia years, bank on it.

  190. (((L J))) Don’t feel alone in your frustration. I think we all feel that deeply. The upside of that kind of viciousness is that, so long as Palin get’s over her nerves, let’s who she really is shine through, these vicious and invalid attacks on her intelligence are probably going to make folks feel very sympathetic to her. Americans HATES to see anyone unfairly persecuted. 🙂

  191. I would bet my bottom dollar that he met Ayers in college. They were both at/around Columbia around the same time. I think he got hooked up with him then, and Ayers is the reason he moved to Chicago.

    Get the hell out of here! I thought the same thing! And I also thought…what do you wanna bet Ayers is the one who introduced Oliar to Emil Jones. I NEVER bought that fucking story about them meeting while Oliar was a community activist working the polls. BULLSHIT.

  192. Here in Central Florida there have been African Americans at everyone of Obama’s rallies with signs that say What about the Black community Barrack. Well maybe this is why.

    Black Media Ads Criticize Obama and DNC for Ignoring Black Voters and Their Media Outlets
    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/black-media-ads-criticize-obama-and-dnc-for-ignoring-black-voters-and-their-media-outlets/

    He may not get as much of the black vote in Florida as he thinks he will.

  193. Idunn, Ayers is a community organizer/radical/Alinskyite from Chicago. He goes and lives one block from Columbia, stirring up the radicals, at the same time Obama went there. Obama “can’t remember” where he lived or who his friends were for his entire college career?

    Obama, who has never set foot in Chicago in his life, decides to up and move to Chicago to “community organize” out of the blue? Please. He fucking followed Ayers there. Bet he was in Ayers house a lot at Columbia. Betcha.

  194. My younger brother who is a union worker in Pa just told me he has not decided. His big issue gas prices which he blames on the gop I didn’t know how to respond

  195. henry, Obama voted for Cheney’s Energy Bill, crafted in secret behind closed doors with big oil. McCain voted against.

    Palin has REDUCED the gas tax in Alaska, and has taxed the OIL COMPANIES to pay for it!

  196. Henry, you tell your brother, who is the ones that are stopping america from tapping its own resources and what Palin can do as energy chief to bring that down.

  197. Henry, also tell your brother that McCain said, same as Hillary did, that part of the rise in gas prices was NOT normal supply and demand, but deliberate “driving up” of the price of oil by Wall Street speculators. He called for a thorough investigation of how much they had a hand in it, during a Bloomberg interview months ago.

    Obama is WAY more in the pocket of Big Oil than McCain. McCain is NOT Bush/Cheney.

  198. Henry, how in the heck is the gop responsible for the high gas prices? There is an intense world competition for oil, including: China, India, Russia, U.S. OPEC and other oil cartels can limit the amount oil that they are pumping, thus, driving the price up. If anything, the gop has been pushing for more off shore drilling and exploration of U.S. resources. Dims and other environmental agencies have been fighting off shore drilling and utilizing other natural resources available here in the U.S. By not utilizing all our natural resources, we have become 70% dependent upon foreign oil, which endangers our national security and prevents new jobs from opening up.

    Can your brother describe, how the gop actions have increased gas prices?

  199. H4T and moon
    thankyou
    unfortunately my bro is in a union and they hit them pretty hard core, At best I think I have convinced him to sit this one out. Hopefuully someone this week will bring up waffles anti-american associations as everyone I talkl to tells me I am falling into and buying internet rumors

  200. Henry,

    So where are they getting information that he does not. I have seen the books of my local political unit. They can be cooked if they want to be.

    At the present time the internet rumors are the only free press we have.

  201. you know how they track visits to websites

    and you know they track visits to network and cable channels

    want to fix the media…do it with your remote and avoid giving credit to networks and cable channels that manipulate and filter the truth

    major advertizers keep track..they spend money where the market is…if you aren’t there neither will the ad dollars be and that channel on your remote will dry up

  202. Went into a huge bookstore today and noticed that there was not one cover with O’s mug on it. LOL…my work is done! 😉

  203. According to Greta of Fox: Head of NOW. LA chapter Endorses Palin

    by Greta Van Susteren
    Just got this email from FNC embed producer….as soon as it came in and I saw it, my eyes popped out!! I know this woman!! I read it to my husband…and he agrees! This endorsement is going to really going to cause a storm!! Hang on to your seat! Read!

    From: Gomez, Serafin
    To:
    Sent: Sat Oct 04 18:05:43 2008
    Subject: Head of NOW. LA chapter Endorses Palin

    Carson, CA-

    The head of the LA chapter of National Organization for Women has just endorsed Gov Palin @ campaign rally. Not speaking NOW or her chapter she said but as an individual. ” This is what a feminist looks like,” she just before handing it over to SLP.
    Serafin Gomez
    Producer, FNC Political Unit
    Washington Bureau

  204. # Idunn Says:
    October 4th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I would bet my bottom dollar that he met Ayers in college. They were both at/around Columbia around the same time. I think he got hooked up with him then, and Ayers is the reason he moved to Chicago.

    Get the hell out of here! I thought the same thing! And I also thought…what do you wanna bet Ayers is the one who introduced Oliar to Emil Jones. I NEVER bought that fucking story about them meeting while Oliar was a community activist working the polls. BULLSHIT.
    ————————–

    Add Frank Marshal Davis to your list for why he went to Chicago.

  205. ok, guys, away from politics for a sec… I am listening to Joaquin Rodrigo, Concierto de Aranjuez, the adagio is my absolute favorite.

  206. henry

    The President does not write the laws, he can suggest bills to congress but it is congress that writes and enacts laws the president only signs or refuses to sign them into law (which congress can over-ride anyway). The Democrats has been in control of both houses of congress leading up to and during the sharp rise in oil prices. It is the democrats have been dragging their feet on renewable energy as well as blocking offshore drilling. So who is really to blame? I would say our do nothing or should I say our do whatever we can to line our own pockets congress which is of course controlled by the Democrats.

  207. The head of the LA chapter of National Organization for Women has just endorsed Gov Palin @ campaign rally. Not speaking NOW or her chapter she said but as an individual. ” This is what a feminist looks like,” she just before handing it over to SLP.
    ———————————————
    Consistently over the years the Los Angeles chapter of NOW has shown independence, courage and insight. I have long admired this group. They are not at all what Camile Paglia accuses the national organization as being namely Stalinists. I will bet you they see the very same things in Obama that we do, deplore the way Hillary and now Palin have been treated by Obama and his goose stepping surrogates. It is not about an organization and a wonderful country where rights do matter regardless of the willingnes of obama and his fellow travellers to suppress them, to threaten people who oppose him with political annihalation or criminal prosecution, i.e. Missouri Truth Squad.

  208. Idunn Says:

    October 4th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
    Wbboei, The Second Coming is one of my favorite works by Yeats. Thanks for posting a piece from that.
    —————————————–
    Thanks Idunn. It is from memory so I probably have got it screwed up but it is close enough.

    Since its Saturday night- this passage from Easter 1916 also by Yeats reminds me of Teddy Kennedy, one of the architects of this debacle:

    Hearts with one purpose alone
    Through summer and winter seem
    Enchanted to a stone
    To trouble the living stream
    The horse that comes from the road
    The rider the birds that range
    From cloud to tumbling cloud
    Minute by minute they change
    A shadow of cloud on the stream
    Changes minute by minute
    A horsehoof slides on the brim
    And a horse plashes within it
    The long legged moor hens dive
    And hens to moorcocks call
    Minute by minute they live
    The stones in the midst of all

  209. Wbboei , my memory isn’t all that it used to be, but your recall on the poem seemed dead on to my ears. 🙂

    (now I’m gonna take a stab at my absolute favorite poem)

    Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting,
    The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,
    Hath had elsewhere its setting,
    And cometh from afar.
    Not in entire forgetfulness,
    And not in utter nakedness,
    But trailing clouds of glory do we come from God, who is our home.
    Heaven lies about us in our infancy!

    (I probably don’t have the form anywhere close to right)

  210. Interesting blog article on skewed polls. Here’s an excerpt:

    PPP just released a poll in Colorado which puts Obama up +7
    Now what the issue is here is that the party split was

    Dem 40
    Rep 36
    Ind 24

    However August voter registration number per the spreadsheet available from the Secretary of State show the registration breakdown is
    Dem 30.6
    Rep 34.8
    Ind 34.5

    Details on the poll in question can be found here. Just this week American Research Group (ARG) also released a poll for Colorado (which is not used in the RCP poll of polls strangely). Its voter model was Dem 32%, Rep 35% and Ind 33%, very close to the ACTUAL voter registration levels noted by MerlinOS2. The result: McCain 48%, Obama 45% – a McCain lead of +3%. (Note: this polls also shows McCain tied with women)

    These polls were taken at basically the same time in the same state. But we can see how the voter model can really change the bottom line (a 10% difference).

    strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6124

  211. But trailing clouds of glory do we come from God, who is our home
    —————————————–
    Idunn: that is sublime. where is it from? If it is Yeats I do not recognize it. But I do recall he went through four different phases in his career, so perhaps this is one I am simply not familiar with. It suggests reincarnation. Is it a Hindu or Buddhaist? So tell me please where did it come from?

  212. I think the polls are now designed to demoralize Republican leaners. I will vote no matter how futile it seems. This is just making me madder at the media.

    I was seriously thinking about boycotting Pepsi and Frito Lay. I will if McCain loses.

    By the way – the Obama Youth Junior Fraternity was frightening. It looked like my college campus in the late ’70’s when Black Fraternity’s took hold in small state schools in PA. Interestingly I talked to some of the guys pledging and they were not eating pork as they were also becoming Muslims. If they got in trouble with the Fraternity they marched in like that and the guy in trouble had to publicly do like 200 push ups.

    Frightening.

  213. I think the polls are now designed to demoralize Republican leaners. I will vote no matter how futile it seems. This is just making me madder at the media.
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    more likely to piss them off and decide to do something about it. McCain is an Annapolis guy and he knows what John Paul Jones said when the British captain asked him to surrender the USS Bonham Richard: dream on you delusional bot . . . . no that’s not it . . . oh yea: I have yet begun to fight!

  214. It would seem to me that law abiding citizens should be aware of the massive push by bambi to sign up felons, to vote for him. A 527 could tackle that issue. Juxtapose that factoid against his vote against guns.

  215. Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
    The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star, 60
    Hath had elsewhere its setting,
    And cometh from afar:
    Not in entire forgetfulness,
    And not in utter nakedness,
    But trailing clouds of glory do we come 65
    From God, who is our home:
    Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
    — Wordsworth
    h t t p : / / http://www.bartleby.com/101/536.html

  216. wbboei said: Since its Saturday night- this passage from Easter 1916 also by Yeats reminds me of Teddy Kennedy, one of the architects of this debacle:

    Hearts with one purpose alone

    ==========

    SNL was never like this. I should look up the whole poem, but why Teddy Kennedy?

  217. turndown: well I was sure close wasn’t I. But to tell you the truth I did look up pantheism and thought about Wordsworth but decided no couldnt be. The Lake District Poets. Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive, but to be young was very heaven (speaking of the French Revolution). My favorite poem of his is We Are Seven–poignant.

  218. Turndown: I see him as an evil jupiter. The gravitational pull of his name drags us into a sordid world of damaged women, alcohol abuse, meglomanical delusion and abuse of power. An ironic deity gave two great men who served our country(John and Bobby) and then took them back in the prime of their lives. That same deity left us with a bad bargain named Teddy. He is one of the architects of our current debacle and a stone that troubles the living stream. Other than that I am very fond him.

  219. And how sweet to have the CHICAGO Cubs lose to the Dodgers.

    Sorry Obambi, your team lost.

    Hope its an omen.

  220. wbboei: I want to thank you for your comments.I do not know you and I have to believe that you are a man of honor patriotism and wisdom.You are the shining light and the beacon for equal minds to come together and fight for justice and truth in government.Your experiences,poetr and knowledge of our history is the glue for the minds of us that always yearn for a true leader to keep us focused on what is right for our fellow americans.You have kept me interested and inspired in what is in the best interests of mankind.At my age it is difficult to be taken seriously in what we say and do.In many cases it is reality but I am determined to go out fighting with you to see The Hustler fail in his blatant attempt to take over country a la Adolph style.Again I thank you and may I add that I wish I could have you as my neighbor.

    By ABM90 Our Girl will be back.

  221. An interesting and optimistic article about skewed polls, easy to understand for the math-impaired. (like me)

    strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6124

  222. more pics from palin in s cal.

    ya know, the real repubs (check the comments) are starting to sound like we did when hrc was being demolished by msm. ❓

    spolitics.com/blog/2008/10/04/palin-rocks-the-house-in-socal/

  223. basil9

    Good Morning

    You are so right. People are beginning to understand that we have lost our free press on TV.

  224. My all-time favorite poem is by Rudyard Kipling. I think it’s fair to say that Obama is not “the thousandth man!”

    Here are a few stanzas…

    One man in a thousand, Solomon says,
    Will stick more close than a brother.
    And it’s worth while seeking him half your days
    If you find him before the other.
    Nine nundred and ninety-nine depend
    On what the world sees in you,
    But the Thousandth man will stand your friend
    With the whole round world agin you.

    ‘Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show
    Will settle the finding for ‘ee.
    Nine hundred and ninety-nine of ’em go
    By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
    But if he finds you and you find him.
    The rest of the world don’t matter;
    For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim
    With you in any water.

  225. Idunn: that is sublime. where is it from?

    Wordsworth’s Intimations Of Immortality.

    Absolutely stirring piece about how we come into the world divine and pure, and slowly begin to allow the world to rob us of that. We remember, somewhere deep inside us , that we were once divine…but it becomes a faint (though nagging) memory, as we struggle in life to adapt to the world man has created. It’s Wordsworth poignantly mourning the loss of his connection to the divine.

  226. NMF,

    I agree. Man or Woman or both, I think Admin definitely fits the bill as do a lot of our regular posters including you! 🙂

  227. Here is the rest of the poem by Kipling…perhaps my favorite part:

    His wrong’s your wrong, and his right’s your right,
    In season or out of season.
    Stand up and back it in all men’s sight —
    With that for your only reason!

    Nine hundred and ninety-nine can’t bide
    The shame or mocking or laughter,
    But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side
    To the gallows-foot — and after!

  228. Question:
    If it is true that Karl Rove “helped” Donna Brazile develop a strategy against Hillary and for nObama and we see how successful this has been to date, even though deplorable and often unconscionable,and has allowed nObama to steal the nomination and kept it close for the undemocratic Democratic Party then where is he helping his own party and candidate(s) of that party to take nObama out.

    It is October, surprise me John McCain!

    And to think we could have had Hillary.

  229. JanH

    Thanks for the compliment.

    I know that when (Not If) HRC begins her campaign again in the State Where I live, I will be on board right up front immediately. My only problem is can I stand the other 999 who will suddenly start showing up finally to support her.

  230. It is important for everyone to STAND UP against this tyranny. This is our country and what I’ am seeing happening for Political gain…this is no longer about the American people or their traditions.

    This is about a power grap by a few elites who have crapped all over our freedoms for what they think is best for us….Never in my life have I see this country fallen down in protecting the people from the abuse I seen from the FEC not reigning those foreign donations, the abuse of those in the media and polls with the falsifications.

    Many pollerster did not ever poll the vp debate, yet acted like they did….CNN letting AXELROD and slant the polls….and yes the Republican arrogance in botton loading the attacks at the end when Obama is at his strongest point. Those NRA ads should had been running right after Clinton suspended her race.

    I’m going to help with the Rep GOTV…those who can pls do what you can. I’ve talked to my neighbor who is a baptist minister he’s in the tank for Obama because he thinks this will be are only chance. But he doesn’t know a thing about Obama, he’s relying on MSM to give him the facts.

    It’s the ground game, and we must help to get out the vote. The same bad apples we hated in the Republican party have moved over to the Democrats.

  231. If it is true that Karl Rove “helped” Donna Brazile develop a strategy against Hillary and for nObama and we see how successful this has been to date, even though deplorable and often unconscionable,and has allowed nObama to steal the nomination and kept it close for the undemocratic Democratic Party then where is he helping his own party and candidate(s) of that party to take nObama out.
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    Rove is not involved in the McCain campaign. They have assured me of that. McCain has no use for Rove. As you may recall Rove played the race card against McCain in the South Carolina primary and McCain has never forgiven him for it. I mention that because it is critical for Hillary supporters to understand that McCain had nothing to do with Roveian schemes and harbors the same animus toward Rove that we do. He is a friend of Hillary and that is the truth.

  232. wbboei

    One more plus for both HRC and McCain. Regardless of party (which I now have finally come to understand), there are people who have power that in my estimations should be in jail.

  233. basil9 Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 9:35 am
    WARNING!

    Don’t watch the Sunday Talking heads.
    *****************************************************
    Those guys are elites, most want Obama because elites honor elites. Palin scares the hell out of them because she will break up their beltway tea parties. I believe this Sunday is to break Sarah Palin growing influence….imo, it’s too late.

    Palin is a STAR who is here to stay.

  234. Remember, this is still McCain to win. Don’t look at the news just keep getting the message out and GOTV. FOX will be the best of the poison but CNN and MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC has just gotten paid off, with that Bailout by the tune of 470 million dollars.

    Follow the money!!!

  235. The Polls that count is the ELECTION.

    So get out the vote for McCain/Palin or anybody other then the Dems.

  236. There is another impact that the polls have not taken into consideration.

    First, we know they are polling Dems at a higher % than will actually vote.

    We suspect that a lot of the new registered voters will not even vote, and a lot of those are Dems.

    The other thing is what every new group is bussed in, might be offset by the Dems who are too disheartened to vote.

    Just two more observations. When was the last time O pulled in 10,000 people.

    I am very proud of the CA NOW lady giving her support to Palin. I am sure that will be the end of her job.

  237. Jan-that is just beautiful. Kipling is one of my favorites and I have a collection of his poems two feet from where I am sitting right now and that one is not in it. It sure should be. That poem expresses the hope that exists at the begining of every marriage or association between human beings and when it is realized it brings immeasurble happiness to life. But as he says the odds against it are long and most of the time we have to settle for less, which is still better than nothing at all. Nothing will come of nothing–as Shakespeare said.

  238. nmf: I was impressed by the CA NOW member for giving her individual support for Palin. At least some people realize that Palin is a true feminist. She doesn’t just talk the talk, she walks the talk. I admire that. OC is a very conservative SCal area. Glad she had such a robust turnout. Wonder why, Arnold wasn’t there? Has he drunk the kool-aid, like Maria?

  239. # pm317 Says:
    October 4th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    ok, guys, away from politics for a sec… I am listening to Joaquin Rodrigo, Concierto de Aranjuez, the adagio is my absolute favorite.
    &&&&&&&&&

    i love classical guitar too (listen and play). Yeah, Rodrigo’s piece is wonderful.

    I am working on a compostion called “Death of a Chicago Salesman”.

  240. birdgal

    Arnold wants is it $7B and I think his chances are better if he does not show Rep support to this ticket. I am sure Maria is whispering O sonnets in his ears also.

  241. birdgal

    This has shown me that a true feminists is bipartisen. Women would not have won the right to vote so long ago it that were not true.

    I think I failed to realize that, and thought it was a one party issue.

  242. Those guys are elites, most want Obama because elites honor elites. Palin scares the hell out of them because she will break up their beltway tea parties. I believe this Sunday is to break Sarah Palin growing influence….imo, it’s too late.

    Palin is a STAR who is here to stay
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    I have a very educated Cuban friend whose family was well connected with the Baptisa goverment which was overthrown by Fidel. He lived through that era and his family fled the country shortly after the revolution. They moved through Puerto Rico to New York. He is a Princetion graduate and described the experience as like trying to drink water out of a firehose so great was the onslaught of learning. And unlike Charlie Gibson and the would be first lady of hate he actually learned something while he was there. Later he worked on Wall Street. One of the things he told me–assured me of based on his life experiences it the elites need to have a middle class in order for them to survive and yet ironically they hold it in contempt and undermine it wherever they can. What they get in the end is someone like Fidel who enlists the support of the mob and decides they are expendable too.

  243. wbboei, who is a friend of Hillary’s, McCain or Rove? I am pretty sure you are saying Hillary is a friend of McCain, and for that reason I hold both McCain and Hillary in very high esteem, bipartisan not bullsh!t. That is part of the Biden VP ticket that is so hyprocritical – he is/or was one of McCain’s friends and holds McCain in great esteem. Further during the primary he seemed to be as “against” a nObama candidacy as Hillary and others, including me. He meets nObama’s strategies of Master Plagerist and Exalted Flip Flopper, not a pretty picture.

    People who used to be, and hope to still be in the future, Hillary Clinton supporters are now starting the exit from her side with hers and Bill’s continued shilling for nObama. They are asking – what about Country before Party, and the People before the Party. They are seeing her put Party before her lifelong held beliefs – and they are beginning to search for ways to get refunds of their contributions to her – seems they are wary that at least some of their money went to help in electing nObama. It will be interesting to note how many these people number by election date.

  244. I am working on a compostion called “Death of a Chicago Salesman”.
    ———————————————————————–

    LOL! I hope you succeed.

    NMF: Feminism is bipartisan. The liberal feminists have believed that they are the true feminists, but Gov. Palin has shown that feminism knows no political boundaries.

  245. wbboei,

    I learned that poem as a child in school and it has remained my favorite for many years. Today, now in my fifties, the words still hold great meaning for me.

    Obama will never fit into this category. Neither will Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, Reid, et al…

    Now Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Admin, the folks here…well maybe that is what attracts me to this site…the good people Kipling was talking about.

  246. ShortTermer

    Sorry I don’t buy that. HRC is doing what she has to do to remain a part of the Dem party. I don’t think she is enthusiastic, and I think her endorsement of O will prove a negative. She understands this more than we do.

    HRC’s record in NY and the Senate shows she is bipartisan.

    Someone will have to pick up the party, and they are in perfect position to do that. I don’t have to do that. I can show my support by pulling out of the party. I think they are just two different techniques based on out positons.

  247. HRC is between a rock and a hard place. We don’t know all the pressure she is under to support the false one. We don’t know what is going on in the back of her mind or in Bill’s. Above all, we haven’t walked in her shoes.

    This woman gave her heart and soul to her campaign. She fought long and hard and against many obstacles. Only for the most dire reasons, will I ever not support this heroine.

  248. Arm twisting in academia:

    Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher’s union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama.

    go to:
    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/virginia-teachers-union-sparks-outrage-obama-blue-day/

    I learned to not like United Fund when the threat was made to us during faculty meetings that we will donate to the United Fund. We if we not volunteer to donate, the Principal will talk to us personally. If we still do not volunteer to donate, the Superintendent will talk to us personally. Those of us who resented the arm twisting, but dare not say it out loud because we would incur wrath or lose our jobs, found a work-around by signing the donation card saying we would donate monthly, but just never got around to donating. I still have a bad taste in my mouth about that all these years later. Seems the same sort of thing is going on in academia in Virginia.

  249. Arm twisting in Virginia, if this is true. Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher’s union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama.

    go to:
    h t t p : / /elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/virginia-teachers-union-sparks-outrage-obama-blue-day/

    After all these years, I have a bad taste in my mouth toward the United Fund. During faculty meetings we were encouraged to give to the United Fund, they wanted to be 100% to enhance their vitae I guess. We were told we would donate to the United Fund. If we chose not to donate, the Principal would personally talk with us. If we still chose not to donate, the Superintendent would personally talk with us. Those of us who wanted to rebel against this arm twisting and in fear of our jobs, came up with a resolution. Fill in the donaiton card to contribute monthly, not out of our payroll check. Then just forget to send in the monthly donations.
    Thuggery still alive and well, if this is true, even in academia.

  250. Moon-Pluto

    They are not BO’s boys of summer- He doesn’t even like them.

    But your statement pained me – I have been a Cubbie’s fan since 1955, when I moved to IL from Dodgerland. That’s 53 years buddy. And there are many Hillfans who also love the Cubs, including Hill herself.

    Poorly put on your part.

  251. NewMexicoFan, it is not me saying this. It is being posted on a blog site that I now lurk around because the blog owner and I parted ways waaayyyy back yonder when donations were being solicited and given for ad buys as a 527 that never materialized, yet there was no mention of refunds. Then, after the primary, the blog went toward reforming the undemocratic Democratic Party and was really for Democrats which I am not one of as an Independent. That said, there was back and forth between several bloggers about how to get refunds.

  252. wbboei, who is a friend of Hillary’s, McCain or Rove? I am pretty sure you are saying Hillary is a friend of McCain,
    ———————————————-
    I meant McCain. I am sure Hillary has no use whatsoever for Rove. I could explain why but I think it is self evident.

  253. Arm twisting in Virginia, if this is true. Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher’s union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama
    ———————————————
    lemmings. scares me to think these are the people teaching our children.

  254. Shortermer

    Maybe that is just an isolated situation. Who knows.

    But HRC can not either be our perfect person, even though we would like her to be. I do not believe in worshipping people or candidates.

    Therefore, I accept them with their sometimes mis judgements and flaws.

    Do the standards for HRC must be human. We will have to wait and see how this plays out.

    What I do know is for me O is not my messiah, nor should he be any one elses.

  255. i could be wrong, but i thought B-HO was a chicago white sox fan. i know hillary loves the cubbies and her adopted team, the NY yankees.

    oh well, this bills fan (i only follow the NFL) is off to enjoy a spectacular autumn day. the color has exploded here in new england. the trees are on fire.

  256. birdgal Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    nmf: I was impressed by the CA NOW member for giving her individual support for Palin. At least some people realize that Palin is a true feminist.

    ————————–

    bird, I was just talking about this to my brother in India. Palin is the second wave who can appreciate those who paved the way for her but at the same time not be burdened by the fight. The younger third wave will rue the day if they don’t learn their history. Their current view (of gender neutral) will be justified only when there is a critical mass of women in everything we do. We are a long way from there still. About 10-15 years ago, I gave a talk at the toastmasters called role reversal, the line between perceived notions of what men and women can or cannot do disappearing and Palin and her husband personify that. I am not going to begrudge what they are just because they are the wrong (supposedly) party. We need women of all persuasions to fill the vacuum to critical mass. America is woefully behind in that regard and Democrats crying foul at Palin should be ashamed for not acknowledging that fact.

  257. NewMexicoFan, I was very surprised by this turn of events on that blog. And, let me be perfectly clear, I am angered beyond belief and scared sh!tless that such an empty suit could POSSIBLY get this close to ruling this nation as Barrack INSane NObama. It is not most of our generations who will suffer the most, it is the youngest generationa and those generations yet to come. I have never worked for national campains before in my life, and I, like Hillary have worked my heart out trying to elect Hillary, now McCain/Palin, but above all else to DEFEAT nObama. It really should never have been this hard to defeat him, except for the theivery, thuggery, illegalities of him and his campaign staff. I had so hoped that he would come out of his campaign so scarred that he would never be able to get on a national ticket anywhere. He scares the beJesus out of me. He can not be trusted. Ever. Period.

  258. I think the McCain campaign or a 527 needs to give the public a credible reason or reasons why big media is in the bag for Obama, and show examples. This would make it easier to reject its partisan crap and demand to know where is the rest of the story. If it were me I would show how charlie gibson edited the tapes of the palin interview to produce false or misleading conclusions and give examples of where big media judments have been proven wrong–failed to investigate, to vet etc. Also who owns big media and who they give financial contributions too. McCain has two adversaries and it is crazy to give one of them a free pass. They are not a free press.

  259. Just heard NPR “news”. These guys constantly give Obama much more air time and positive coverage than JM. Today no diff.

    “Barack Obama was in ___ yesterday, and took shots at JM’s health plan”…then launched into giving Obama a 20 second quote.

    Then it was off to another topic. Occasionally, I’ll hear an even amount of air time.

    But how useful is this to helping Obama? Aren’t most of these edumacated elites already voting for Obama?

    Also, today’s NYTimes Pubic Editor (ombudsman role) lamely tried to defend them against McCain’s charge that they are Obama supporters.

    He said that since the conventions, the Times has published nine “enterprise or investigative” articles about JM (4 on front page), whereas Obama only received four such treatments (only one on front page). The explanation? That NYT dished the dirt on Obama during the primaries when he was the new thing.

    But the ref is equating a blown call in the first quarter with a blown call in the last drive of the 4th quarter. Oh, and the ref has money on the game.

  260. rgb44hrc, thanks for responding. I was not a big fan of classical guitar until I heard Rodrigo and Aranjuez, the way he makes the little guitar stand up to the orchestra is masterful, and pairing it up with the English horn is just genius. It evokes so many different emotions at the same time that it is mind boggling. The guitar is like a graceful river making its way through the forests and the valleys.

  261. pm317

    I agree. In my estimations, McCain did not promise the HRC supporters anything. He has told his group to be supportive of any HRC person that walks in the door. Don’t get me wrong, we are not going to be part of their inner circile.

    However, the next think he did was he displayed that he was supportive of femnists by selecting Palin. Actions speak louder than words.

    There are a number of other Rep women he could have selected. But none of them would have appealed to what I beleived in as much as Palin.

    I am off to see the beautiful autum in NM, only we had rain last night. That is kind of unusual. See you all later.

  262. now we can’t mention terrorists in cnnection with BO not because it could be a dnagrous association but because most terrorists are dark-skinned and that’s racist! 😯
    from AP. here are excerpts.

    Palin’s words carry racial tinge?????
    WASHINGTON (AP) – By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is “palling around with terrorists” and doesn’t see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.
    And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.
    Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?
    In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.
    Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us” is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.
    Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain’s purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright’s sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America’s promise to treat all people equally.
    John McCain occasionally looks back on decisions with regret. He has apologized for opposing a holiday to honor Martin Luther King Jr. He has apologized for refusing to call for the removal of a Confederate flag from South Carolina’s Capitol.
    When the 2008 campaign is over McCain might regret appeals such as Palin’s perhaps more so if he wins.

  263. wobbei, d@mned right. Where are the 527s and where is the October surprise????? McCain has to come out fighting on Tuesday’s debate and for the remaining days.

    I still giggle like a schoolgirl at the thought that Joe O’Biden got beat up by a GIRL!!!!!! I know that Joe Biden is probably a good man, but he is at best a mediocre politician who talks long and is short on accrued accomplishments for the decades he has been elected. The voters rejected him in his presidential candidacy, what twice now, with fewer votes that Sarah likely got in her small town of Wasilla. Not someone I would have picked for my VP running mate, and then to tell Biden that I need him to sit with me in the room [to prop me up] during critical decision making events.

    Up is down, down is up, wrong is right, our children’s future is lost.

  264. basil9, I am almost beginning to like being called a “RACIST” and that disgusting AP article you referenced pretty much places my feet in concrete. It is NOT okay to be a racist, but it is okay to be sexist and misogynistic. Will those male chauvenist pigs never die off?
    I sure hope this lights a fire under John McCain and it seems to me, this opens the door for McCain to explode all over them – as is needed now. We must MAKE IT RAIN MCCAIN on November 4th.If nObama steals this general election, our Hillary will never be able to make a comeback and we need her. OOOOhhhh, how we and our nation need her.

  265. NY TIMES FEIGNS “JOURNALISM”

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/the-new-york-times-drops-the-ball-on-ayers-and-obama/

    The New York Times Drops the Ball on Ayers and Obama

    By Larry JohnsongravatarcloseAuthor: Larry Johnson Name: Larry Johnson

    Some may be inclined to commend the New York Times for a “good start” (You know the old joke? What do you call a 1000 lawyers chained together at the bottom of the ocean? A good start.) But while offering the appearance of an in depth investigation The New York Times actually tries to help Senator Obama cover up his lies about Ayers.

    For those living in a cave in recent years, Bill Ayers is a self-confessed unrepentant terrorist who played a key role in launching Barack Obama’s political career. Let’s take this step-by-step. First, here is what Barack Obama claimed earlier this year when questioned by George Stephanopolus:

    Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?

    OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

    And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.

    The New York Times does concede that Obama has not been accurate about his relationship with Ayers:

    A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close.

    But the Times perpetuates the nonsense that contacts between Ayers and Obama were of no consequence. The Times reports:

    “The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.

    Fortunately we do not have to depend on the Times to get the story. Instead we have the work of Steve Diamond (see his piece here) who has done the real investigation that puts to shame the NY Times effort.

    The Obama campaign continues to insist that Ayers had nothing to do with Barack’s selection as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. According to the Times:

    In March 1995, Mr. Obama became chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago. Some bloggers have recently speculated that Mr. Ayers had engineered that post for him.

    In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year. At a lunch with two other foundation heads, Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation and Adele Simmons of the MacArthur Foundation, Ms. Leff suggested that Mr. Obama would make a good board chairman, she said in an interview. Mr. Ayers was not present and had not suggested Mr. Obama, she said.

    Not true. The documentary evidence suggests otherwise (again, thanks to Steve Diamond for these nuggets). The national headquarters for the Annenberg Challenge was located at Brown University and managed under the direction of Brown’s President, Vartan Gregorian. Diamond has uncovered several letters between Gregorian and Ayers. According to a letter dated November 18, 1994, Gregorian informed Bill Ayers:

    ”This probably goes without saying, but I urge you as you compose the governing Board and the Collaborative, to engage people who reflect the racial and ethnic diversity of Chicago.”

    On December 1, 1994 Ayers and Anne Hallett (who co-chaired the CSRC with Ayers) wrote back to Gregorian:

    “Thank you for your letter of November 18, 1994. We are continuing to build a broad base of consensus and support for the main thrust of the proposal….We have given careful thought to the issues raised in your letter. We are working with Adele Simmons, Deborah Leff, and Pat Graham on issues of management and governance to ensure that Chicago’s Annenberg Challenge initiative is successful. We offer the following responses:….Board of Directors. A five-to-seven person Board of Directors of highly respected Chicagoans is being assembled. Pat Graham, president of the Spencer Foundation, has agreed to serve and is willing to work with the Board. The duties of the Board will be to approve grants, to help raising matching funds, and to hire the executive director….The Board and the Collaborative will reflect the racial and ethnic diversity of Chicago.”

    So what? The issue is not who actually sat down with Barack Obama in March 1995 and asked him to become the chairman of this board. No. There are two critical, unanswered questions. First, why was an inexperienced lawyer like Barack Obama asked to chair this board? Second, why has Barack refused to discuss in detail what he did with this board and his interactions with Bill Ayers during the four years he chaired this effort?

    That is what does not make sense. Obama is running for President and faces the charge that he lacks significant experience running anything. Okay, here he is chairman of a board that was responsible for raising and disbursing more that $100 million dollars and Obama says nothing about this time in his life? Why? Because he did regularly interact and exchange ideas with Bill Ayers. Look carefully at the statement issued by the Obama campaign, “they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005.”

    Got that? But they were speaking and exchanging email prior to January 2005. We also now know that Ayers is communicating with Obama through David Axlerod. Axlerod and Ayers have been in regular communication on figuring out how to manage the potential fallout from the public learning that Barack Obama for many years thought it was okay to work with and accept advice from an unrepentant terrorist. Those are uncomfortable facts and go to the essence of the charge that challenging Obama’s judgment in hanging out with unsavory characters–e.g., Ayers, Rezko, Wright. It is both troubling and reflects a bizarre lack of political acumen for someone allegedly such a gifted politician.

    If you want to let the NY Times know what you think here is the address: public@nytimes.com

  266. All these pundits with all these prognostications of what will or will not happen. Their crytal ball must be better than mine, because I have no idea at this point what the end game will look like. But then again I am not all knowing and always right like they are–except when they are wrong which is most of the time. Frankly, we would be better off hiring a chimpanzee to flip a coin than putting any faith in their infallible opinoions and judgements.

    On a different note, ABM 90 you are a wise man, and sooner or later wisdom is the trump card. The problem is getting people to stop, listen and think. It is hard to move them out of their own worlds to think about the broader implications of this campaign but if it true that only now with only a month left they are starting to tune in then perhaps the condition precedent to wisdom is finally falling into place. The end game of the campaign will be set at the debate Tuesday night. The issue needs to be Obamas character–or lack thereof and his tactics. We shall see.

  267. wbboei

    I’m sick- golf ball in my throat when I swallow, terrific amount of goop in my chest, Hack-hack-bark-bark cough. I’m gradually drying it up with OTC allergy meds and inhilation therapy…will just have to deal with it for a little while more.

    Laptop sick with large globs of octopus ink slowly sliding to bottom of screen…but 1/2 year taxes, full year insurance on building and car means I will have to just deal with that for a while, too.

    Thanks for asking. Going back to bed.

    Still read all ya all irregularly.

  268. pm317, I grew up on rock, and worshipped Hendrix, Clapton Page, etc. Later, I started liking jazz. I started playing guitar in college, and always wanted to learn jazz guitar. I started taking classical guitar lessons as a stepping stone to jazz, but realized what a wealth of music and depth and feeling there is available in the classical guitar.

    Don’t get me wrong, i still love rock and blues and jazz. but my listening now is about 90% classical. I always loved music, and there is just so much deeper to delve into with classical.

    That said, I listened to Black Flag yesterday while doing chores, and there is a whole other visceral thing going on with music that hits you in the head.

  269. Hey gang. That AP article is stupid and reflects the blindness and skewed opinions of the MSM. So….Palin is spewing subtle racism when she speaks the truth of Obama paling around with Ayers. But OBAMA

  270. anyway, it was about Obama spewing racism when he talks about the fact he doesnt look like the people on our currency and that he has a funny name, etc.

    Oh, and by the way, did he tell you e was BLACK?

  271. I think playing the race card should open ups some old wounds for Clinton Democrats and drive them away from BO.

    And I hope the McCain campaign has a strategy to counter this – they have to pull out the videos of President Clinton saying they played the race card on him.

  272. Now if Obama is safe in Minnesota and Michigan, why has he just taken a huge ad buy there and McCain campaigning heavily in Minnesota next week.

  273. Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, “Our opponent … is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.” She also said, “This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America.”

    Palin hit right on BHO’s character who sorrounds himself with people who hate America. Palin’s comment is very powerful and it will wake Americans up.

  274. Good article and pay close attention to the Republican memo’s description of Jimmy Carter in 1976 … sound like anyone we know??

    The Spirit of ’76
    What McCain can learn from Gerald Ford about closing a gap.
    by Stephen F. Hayes
    10/13/2008, Volume 014, Issue 05

    John McCain had two good days late last week. It had been a while. On Thursday, Sarah Palin performed well enough in her debate with Joe Biden to quiet the critics. And, on Friday, the House of Representatives voted in favor of the federal bailout, which the Senate had passed two days earlier. Palin wasn’t flawless and the bailout is imperfect. But three days into October, McCain finally had hope that he had stopped his September slide.

    But it may not be that easy. The economy will get worse–maybe significantly worse–before it gets better. Over the next month, a series of reports on the health of the economy will be released–and none of them will be good. By a two-to-one margin voters blame Republicans for these problems.

    The bad economic news has resulted in bad political news. The Real Clear Politics average of national polls has McCain trailing Barack Obama by nearly 6 points. The state polls are even more worrisome. McCain is down in Florida, down in Pennsylvania, down in Ohio, even down in Virginia. He has largely pulled out of Michigan–once believed to be a winnable light blue state–and he is fighting hard in Indiana and North Carolina, two states that Republicans win without trying in most years. On September 10, the first Gallup daily tracking poll conducted entirely after the Republican convention gave McCain a 5-point national lead. On October 3, the first day of the rest of the campaign, the same tracking poll had him down 7 points.

    “As a general matter, we need to get this race back to being about Obama,” says one senior adviser to McCain. A second agrees and points to Tuesday’s debate as a key opportunity. “Part of what this debate is about, and the home stretch is about, is focusing the attention on Obama.”

    It’s a strategy that has worked before. And it worked in a political environment that looks, in many ways, like this one.

    In 1976, the country was still divided over an unpopular war, the U.S. intelligence community was the source of great controversy, there were deep concerns about the rising cost of energy, and the economy was in bad shape. Republican party identification was down. Democratic registration was up. The Republican running that year was a moderate, who was mistrusted by conservatives and who did not want to be associated with his predecessor. The Democrat was new to national politics and almost deified by the media. In mid-July 1976, a Gallup poll had Gerald Ford down 33 points to Jimmy Carter.

    Ford’s top strategists drafted a 121-page memo for the candidate. “We firmly believe that you can win in November,” it declared, with an optimism that must have seemed naïve. The memo described the difficulties facing the campaign–many of which mirror the challenges Barack Obama presents the McCain campaign in 2008. Among them:

    * Jimmy Carter has experienced a “rapid rise in national popularity” due largely to his “enormous (media) popularity,” which persists despite the fact that he lost “eight out of the last eleven contested primary fights.”
    * The Democratic Party enjoys a 43% to 21% advantage. A GOP candidate will always have difficulty closing a large gap on a Democratic opponent.
    * Campaign expenditures for both candidates will be the same. We no longer have the previous advantage of being able to outspend our opponent. This is a particular handicap when we are behind.
    * Carter’s popularity is based almost exclusively on his awareness factor. His support is very thin and clearly very vulnerable to deterioration.
    * It is Carter’s “newness” and his image as a winner that has carried him to the heights he has reached thus far.

    The memo then assessed Carter’s strengths and weaknesses.

    Positive
    * A winner who has “it.” A man with real personal appeal; “I like him.”
    * A man with strong spiritual and moral values; an honest man of character.
    * A family man.
    * A man who cares about the common man and his problems.
    * A new kind of politician who is against the corrupt Washington system and will not lie.
    * A man concerned about government efficiency and dedicated to making the government work better.
    * A man who seems to deal with and resolve issues in a non-controversial way.
    * He is seen as an economic liberal and a social conservative.
    * He is a man with quiet strength; he will not let the politicians run over him. He is in control and will run the country with authority.
    * Seen as a responsible Democrat–not a maverick; not extreme.

    Negative

    * An arrogant man.
    * A man who wears his religion on his sleeve; he is very self-righteous. Lacks humility.
    * A man who tries to be all things to all men; we don’t know where he stands on the issues.
    * A man about whom we don’t know enough; we really don’t know who he is as a person.
    * A Southerner.
    * May not be experienced enough to be President.

    Ford’s strategists believed that voters saw Carter as “mystical, almost evangelical,” and they sought to diminish this view with “a major and highly disciplined attack on the perception of Carter.” The goal was to transform his positives into negatives. They wanted Carter to be perceived as:

    * An unknown.
    * A man whose thirst for power dominates. Who doesn’t know why he wants the Presidency or what he’ll do with it.
    * Inexperienced.
    * Arrogant–(deceitful).
    * Devious and highly partisan (a function of uncontrolled ambition).
    * As one who uses religion for political purposes; an evangelic.
    * As liberal, well to the left of center and a part of the old-line Democratic majority.

    To win, Ford strategists argued, the campaign had to improve its communications by “choosing our message, simplifying it and repeating it” and by “improving the speeches and tying them to the overall strategy instead of continuing to develop speeches in an organizational vacuum.”

    Ford’s advisers refined their plan at a high-level meeting at Ford’s vacation home in Vail, Colorado, as the campaign headed into the fall. Bob Teeter, Ford’s pollster, described the meeting in an interview with a historian from the Ford Library.

    “I think the basic decision we made there–and I’m not sure we focused on it quite as clearly as I can now with the advantage of twenty years of hindsight–was to shift the question [mark] off of President Ford and onto Jimmy Carter,” Teeter explained.

    We raised three questions about him. One, “Was he experienced enough to be president?” Second was, “Did you know enough about him?” The third was, “Did he have enough of a record as a Governor of Georgia?”

    The Ford campaign ran a series of ads featuring man-on-the-street interviews with voters discussing Carter. The criticism is mild by today’s standards.

    Woman: All the things that we read about Jimmy Carter I think are true that he is fuzzy on a lot of the issues.
    Man: He changes his mind on the stand every other day or so.
    Man: He contradicts himself from one day to the next.
    Woman: He’s much too wishy-washy.
    Man: He seems to be a little wishy-washy.
    Man: Well, if he’d stand up and say what he’s for he’d be a little bit easier to understand and to believe.
    Woman: I like President Ford, a man who will tell you just exactly where he does stand.

    The Ford campaign strategy almost worked. By portraying Carter as too much of an unknown and telling voters that supporting the Georgia governor was too risky in such perilous times, Ford closed the gap from 33 points to 2 in ten weeks. (Ford’s convention came in the middle of that period, giving him an added boost.)

    Several McCain advisers believe their campaign should focus on two very similar questions for the final push of the campaign: Who is Barack Obama, and can he lead the country in these difficult times?

    The advisers say the campaign will work to remind voters of Obama’s “corrupt” associations with Tony Rezko and with “the terrorist William Ayers.” There has been no decision made as to whether the campaign will directly raise Obama’s relationship to Reverend Jeremiah Wright. “Rezko and Ayers are clearly in bounds,” says a top McCain adviser. “McCain has said he doesn’t want to talk about Wright. If others do, then it’s a topic of conversation and we can join that conversation.”

    One McCain adviser says the lessons from 1976 go beyond the campaign. “They were right about Carter. Look what happened to his presidency. We lost more acreage to communism during that time than any other time in history. And the Iranian hostages? And look at the economy.”

    “The guy was too risky.”

    Stephen F. Hayes, a senior writer at THE WEEKLY STANDARD, is the author of Cheney: The Untold Story of America’s Most Powerful and Controversial Vice President (HarperCollins).

    weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/663xubeb.asp?pg=1

  275. ShortTermer Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
    ……DEFEAT nObama. It really should never have been this hard to defeat him, …….

    I took this out of context. I would like to comment

    This was already a democratic year and by all measure BHO has had to fight hard to keep any semblance of a lead.

    Had BHO been qualified and trustworthy, (something Hillary was) the dim party would have had this in the bag.

    What they (the dims) are trying to do is sell us some swamp land in the sahara desert..sad some are buying it..and… too bad they don’t move there

  276. I’m still shaking my head at the MSM mantra that McCain blew it by saying that “the fundamentals of our economy are sound.”

    What should he have said? “We are so f**ked up that there’s no hope” and “we will be pouring $700B down a rathole”? Or “capitalism is fundamentally unsound and we should switch to socialism”? Or “we’re sinking! we’re sinking! Take all your money out of the banks and stick it in your mattress”?

    Years ago, the rich FDR said “we have nothing to fear but fear itself” Evidently he was really out of touch.

    What irks me is that Obama is being portrayed as cool and calm in this crisis and McC as flighty (!?!)
    I think that the words ‘socialism’ and ‘communism’ should be tied to Obama and his plans to rescue us. And socialism of the worst kind where the elites get the gravy and what’s left over is shared by the masses. Think ‘the end justifies the means’. Think “the fundamentals are unsound”. Think America has been all wrong. Think the USSR.

    We’ve spent centuries improving the remarkable experiment that is America, bit by bit. Evidently it’s time to give up and change to a Workers’ Paradise. Dump the checks and balances thing — it’s too slow. Besides we’ve found The One we’ve been waiting for. So give him and his enlightened cohorts the keys. What’s the worry?

  277. rgb44hrc, I am all classical music myself, with a bit of hard rock a la Led Zeppelin thrown in there. Jazz kind of bores me because I find the improvisation inadequate — in north Indian classical music, good artists can take a pentatonal scale and whip it for hours on end without repeating a pattern.

  278. this is my take

    BHO is untrustworthy, unqualified, and racist

    that the media made $$billions on ad dollars with the upstart phenomenon, thereby injecting bias into their reports

    that Hillary will forever known as the most qualified candidate in this election even though now she must push the party princples over personality

    that people really do want change in DC and the only change BHO would bring is the color of his skin. (ok there I said it)

    that the dim leadership are as big a liar as we always thought republicans were

    that WE”VE been asleep at the wheel

  279. If McCain had said that the U.S. economy was tanking big time then Obama would have screamed at his negativity and the idea that he was sending a terrible message to international investors.

    In other words, it isn’t the message that comes out of McCain’s mouth, it is the fact that Obama has to screech loud and clear that he disagrees with everything and thinks McCain is a traitor.

    And, Obama could say the moon is blue and the media would follow him just like the little wooden soldiers they are.

  280. One the new Republican attack plans: We have gone through the current media “it’s over” meme before when Obama was running against Hillary in the primaries. Then she focused on Obama’s qualifications as a leader and started winning by double digits.

    I think the analysis someone posted on the Carter election situation does match what is going on now. And McCain is a better candidate than Ford was..and he has been ahead of Obama before there’s no reason to think that it can’t happen again…

    But the Republicans have to start hitting very hard to break through the media wall. It’s almost a constant drumbeat on the networks that Obama has won…they barely talk about McCain and when they do it’s to take a shot at Palin..

    I don’t know if this means anything but I was at a hair appointment yesterday and virtually everyone was talking about the election. One woman was for Obama, but remarkably the rest were undecided or unsure. One stylist said she thought she had made up her mind but then she watched the VP debate and thought Palin did great so now she’s back to being undecided again.

    I wonder how much fluidity there is in this race. Also, as we all have wondered, how much Bradley effect may be happening…are the polls really accurate or just reflecting the uncertainty about the economy?

    I look forward to this week. People are now really thinking about who they want. I think the McCain camp is correct in going after Obama’s judgement, questionable associations, and qualifications for the presidency. There is still time to go before we vote…anything can, and probably will, happen…

  281. AmericanGal, you read my mind.

    I know we shouldn’t be discussing polls, but what I find interesting is that ARG’s current batch of polls have McCain leading in EVERY battleground state (including CO), and yet for some reason these polls aren’t being included in the Real Clear Politics poll of polls average.

    Fascinating.

  282. freckles @1:51

    your first sentence is a perfect lead-in to what I have been wanting to shout for 2 weeks ( but can’t- voice is gone):

    The “fundamentals of our economy” ARE strong…Mike Bloomberg said exactly the same thing the same day JM first did…and this am, Mort Zuckerman said the same thing.

    What has gone badly wrong is the finanacial structure…and that can be dealt with by legislation, regulation, union activity, (love ya still, United12!) citizen revolt, consumer anger, the always necessary and occassional recession, etc., all the actions, reactions and pendulum swings the system has used for 200 or more years to control the greedy and unscrupulous.

    >>

    “Chicago Cubs fans are the greatest fans in baseball. They’ve got to be.” – Cubs Manager Herman Franks (1978)

  283. # moononpluto Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Now if Obama is safe in Minnesota and Michigan, why has he just taken a huge ad buy there and McCain campaigning heavily in Minnesota next week.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Any talk of such and such being safe for Oama ignores the fact that it wasn’t safe there for him just two weeks ago. The race is fluid.

    The Russia/Georgia incident propelled JM. The Lehman meltdown helps the “generic Dem”. Things like this are temporary.

    Like Public Enemy said, “Don’t believe the hype. Boy-eeee”

  284. Does anybody know anything on mortgage backed securities and it trading analysis done by a software company once owned by Bloomberg???

    These mortgage backed securities and its reckless trading risks caused this mess.

  285. Sent this to a friend in the middle of an anti-histamine high the other night:

    “To be a Cubs fan is an ongoing life lesson: as one suffers irregularly scheduled pride and euphoria followed by the inevitable humiliation and disappointment, one becomes more graceful in that suffering and more cautiously joyful during the journey to that inevitability.

    That’s why Cubs fans use responses along the lines of “yeah, well, maybe.”

    It doesn’t pay to get too excited.”

  286. carby:

    you are so right about CNN. ABC. NBC aznd its media divisions etc being helped out by thius bailout…

    and Fox has to go along with it…they now own WSJ…

  287. I have doing some phonebanking for mccain the last few weeks..and will more as well as door to door knocking ..

    I was supposed to have to a Palin welcome rally this monnring but I overslept 🙁

    this morning I have not listened to any news except this website but I feel kinda of down…

    It is the same thing again…hillary was not taking advise to bring this fraud down nor is McCain…

  288. NewMexicoFan Says: He has told his group to be supportive of any HRC person that walks in the door. Don’t get me wrong, we are not going to be part of their inner circile.
    =======

    And why should we be, if he wins? We only want him to win once, then we want Hillary (or some other real Dem) in 2012. I hope if enough of us speak loud enough we may become a factor in some issues, but ‘inner circle’ suggests more than I would expect.

    Still I feel we might have some influence with Palin on some issues. She wants fewer abortions but wants to approach it with alternatiaves such as unwed mothers’ homes and contraception. Some of the GOP base seem against contraception too. We might work out something with her to promote contraception (develop better pills!) that would mean fewer abortions, even if it did not help her politically. She strikes me as like HIllary in wanting to help her causes rather than herself. (Especially as social issues aren’t her offiical agenda anyway, she avoided them in Alaska, see “Palin governs from the center.”)

  289. AmericanGal Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    ===
    I think there is a lot of fluidity. In any year it would be the dems by a landslide, and unpopular president and an unpopular was and then a financial crisis regardless of who’s to blame, normally the person from the party who had been in office for 8 years would lose. But there are a lot of questions about Barrack Obama. Ford was a moderate to liberal conservative, another RINO, republican in name only, he didn’t really excite the base. McCain is too, McCain would probably be better categorized as an independent than a Republican, which is the only reason he is even competitive, a true conservative and I don’t think he wouldn’t stand a chance, but he picks Palin, who excites the base. She brings in the grass roots that he can’t and he can go after his Reagan democrats and independents.

    I have always heard the only poll that is honest is rasmussen, I think zogby is in there, but any by the media forget it. Both Rasmussen and Zogby seem to always get it the closest than the others. I don’t think McCain ever fell that far behind, not the 9 points it had him behind in an ABC poll, this is about discouraging people who would vote for him enough to stay home, and swaying independents to go with the one who is winning in the polls. The other contigent here that gets ignored alot is us. I do a search on google and I come up with a lot of sites that are dems for McCain. According to polls Obama has most of his base. I have a hard time believing that is true. I think there are a lot of democrats who either won’t vote or will vote against him. I am still conviced McCain will win Florida, and I think a lot of African Americans will stay home that day because of Barack not putting adverstising dollars into the black media. They feel he has forgotten them, I won’t be surprised if some don’t turn out.

  290. None of these polls are any good until one or two days before the election….everybody is in the tank.

    Scott Rassmussen was in the tank the day after the vp dabate when he had the nerve to go on FoxNews and say Obama was ahead using old polls, then tellin Kelly that they did not do an overnight poll on the impact of the vp race because the vp race does not impact polls for president.

    My mouth drop and Kelly gave him a “yeah right” look. So that’s why all those phony polls showing Obama with this huge lead…he really doesn’t have a huge lead. If that was the fact, he would be celebrating like Bill Clinton did against Dole.

    Obama is playing the preception game and you have to fight against it and WORK YOUR BEHIND OFF BY GETTING OUT THE VOTE.

  291. FOX is playing the percentage…they think Nancy Pelosi is going to go after them…so it’s back to real FAIR and BALANCE. Why do you think they went after Rush Limbaugh…Rush is an outsider so they use him in an Ad claiming he’s a bigot.

  292. After the GE the Hustler will either In Office ( God Forbid )unemployed,out of the country,in Jail and he will time to have another best seller written for him.The title should be

    “The Auudacity of Hope and Change for Political Dummies ”

    That subject has gotten him this far with his cult followers.

    By ABM90 9 pm tonight on FOX BE THERE

  293. # NewMexicoFan Says:But HRC can not either be our perfect person, even though we would like her to be. …. O is not my messiah, nor should he be any one elses.

    ==========

    Nor should we expect Hillary or Palin to be a messiah.

    EMotionally I think Palin had it right in her acceptance speech: Ferraro and Hillary put cracks in the glass ceilng, now it’s up to us to smash it FOR THEIR SAKES.

    Hilary’s generation needed pantsuits; because of her, Palin’s generation does not. Fine. Together, they’re adding up toward the perfect symbol.

    What I wanted emotionally was for HIllary, who had been the target of so much mysogny throughout her career, to be the First W. P. Now that Palin has got attacked as bad or worse — for her to make it seems almost as good.

    I like seeing F. W. P. be a FIGHTER, not someone who just rides a wave when the old boyz get ready.

  294. Those guys are elites, most want Obama because elites honor elites. Palin scares the hell out of them because she will break up their beltway tea parties. I believe this Sunday is to break Sarah Palin growing influence….imo, it’s too late.

    Palin is a STAR who is here to stay.
    —-
    I agree. The MSM messed up with those interviews. Once she came out on Thurs, looked and talked like she did, and called the MSM out on editing, they lost their power over her. I don’t think anyone will fall for that again, only those on the far left who never liked her to start with.

  295. I knew the liberal Dems/pelosi/dean would call fox o’reilly bigot….after that barney interview..

    They are going to keep on saying “racist/homophobes for anybody against Obama and Barney now…
    notthing to do with Barney’s stupid judgememt on the F & F Mac’s

  296. on drudge headline now: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KHBH80&show_article=1

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The Republican National Committee plans to file a fundraising complaint against Democrat Barack Obama’s presidential campaign Monday, alleging it has accepted donations that exceed federal limits as well as illegal contributions from foreigners.

    RNC officials acknowledged Sunday that they do not have a list of foreign donors to Obama’s campaign. Instead, the complaint is based largely on media reports, including one from a conservative Web site.

    The complaint asks the Federal Elections Commission to audit Obama’s campaign fund, RNC chief counsel Sean Cairncross said in a conference call with reporters.

    Cairncross said little is known about many of Obama’s donors because the campaign is not required to disclose detailed information about people who give less than $200.

    The Obama campaign, which is not accepting public funds, has raised more than $468 million. About half has come from small donors, a point of pride for the Obama campaign.

    The Obama campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

  297. Watch out where this Pickens Dude goes soon??? clear indications will furtehr show what is really happening!!!!

    —-
    What happens to the world’s best-known energy investor when the price of oil plummets? Even for T. Boone Pickens it means losses. Pickens, the legendary oilman (and more recently an alternative energy acolyte), has seen his hedge fund BP Capital rack up $1 billion in losses. “We missed the turn, and when you miss the turn at the level we operate, well, it is going to be expensive,” Pickens told Reuters recently.
    Nonetheless, he remains bullish on the commodity, recently saying on CNBC that he doesn’t expect the price of crude to stay under $100 for long. Pickens pointed to OPEC’s support at that price. Meanwhile, Pickens has said that his fund isn’t panicking, though some of his investors have notified him that they may withdraw funds.

    Looking at BP’s top U.S.-listed, equity holdings at the end of Q2, you can see that Pickens’s energy-heavy portfolio has absorbed a lot of losses. After such a challenging quarter, it will be interesting to see how Pickens has repositioned his portfolio.

    But investors won’t be sure of where Pickens has moved his money until next month, when the deadline for Q2 filings hits.

  298. So the oil price on the market has plummeted but at my gas station I am still seeing only a drop by a few pennies!!!

  299. # wbboei Says: a stone that troubles the living stream.

    ==========

    Ah. The same could be said of some issues, such as Roe vs Wade.

  300. I just got a call from the DNC wanting money for an ad buy against McCain. I told them – sorry – I’m supporting John McCain. It made me mad.

    In reference to above comments – If supporting John McCain makes me racist – then I guess I am.

    It’s starting to remind me of the movie where they were going to fire the teacher because he was gay and the whole town stood up and said they were gay – the movie with Tom Selleck… can’t think of the name of the movie off the top of my head………

  301. mp,
    TTTT gas in my area dropped from a high of $4.26 back to $3.62, down 64 cents.

    pepperming,
    i guess we’re also not allowed to talk about terrorists, either, because, by extension, that would also be racist and lord knows we can’t insult anyone who’s not steamed lobster irish red, can we?
    🙄

  302. peppermintgirl

    being called a racist has become a right of passage in this campaign. i’ve worn the banner proudly since january 8, 2008. welcome aboard the racist-train. 😉

  303. %$!#$!!!!!

    f this isn’t enough to light a fire under our butts i don’t know what is.

    in the event there’s an electoral college tie, guess who could end up as prez?
    Can you Botox Pooplosi????

    ‘House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become acting president if neither chamber could settle on a president or vice president but she would have to resign her post.’

  304. CNN’s iReport Under Fire For Fake Jobs Health Report
    By Staci D. Kramer – Fri 03 Oct 2008 07:33 PM PST

    Friday morning, a number of people jumped on an unverified report that showed up on CNN’s cit j channel iReport.com claiming—erroneously, as it quickly turned out—that Steve Jobs had a heart attack. Never mind that the site clearly bills material as unedited and unfiltered. SAI, among others, connected the words CNN and news, instead, ignoring the unverified aspect in favor of an “it could be true” approach. The Apple (NSDQ: AAPL) CEO’s health has been under the microscope—and concerns have moved the stock price on a number of occasions. Today’s report and the instant ripples had the same effect, sending the stock to a 52-week low before Apple’s denial could make the circuit, and raising concerns that someone was trying to manipulate the stock. CNN has been contacted by the SEC and, according to AP, has promised “to provide information about the posting.”

    The hyperbole has this billed as the “first great test of citizen journalism”—which it’s not. It’s not even the second or the third. It’s also not a failure of an entire concept. People try to game systems whether its Yahoo (NSDQ: YHOO) message boards, automated press releases or upload sites, and some systems are easier to game than others. CNN and other media outlets providing space for unfettered contributions inevitably tied to their own reputations need to spend even more time thinking about how to handle what shows up there. But it’s up to us as journalists and sharers of information to decide how we make use of any unsubstantiated reports.

    Case in point: the same report was submitted to MacRumors , which rejected it. Arnold Kim, who compares iReport posts to forum messages, has some harsh but true words (via AllThingsD): “If you want to blame someone for dropping Apple’s stock price today, you can point fingers to the individuals on 4chan or the person that originally submitted it, but the real reason it gained traction is the reporting of it on mainstream blog sites.”

    http://www.paidcontent.org/
    *****************************************************
    This is what happened alot during the Financial Bank Crisis…one by one individual Bank was identified and broadcasted on so called professional news organization.

    I want to see what the SEC do to those who were manipulating the stock price on healthy banks.

  305. Obama Could Lose-He Hasnt Had the Moment
    by: texan4hillary
    Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 17:13:24 PM EDT
    [edit diary]

    A very astute artcle for Centered Politics It teels perhaps why Obama may not in this. He never has had is emotive moment that connects with a very large swath fo americans like Bill Clinton, Hillary and others have. If you dont connect broadly and emotively on the pocketbook matters u may or may not win-but if elected governing will be hell. the economy is in ruins and the people will turn on you if they havent broadly connected with you.
    The people had a deep emotional connection to Bill Clinton-that is how he was popular till the end of his presiendcy. its how he survived the impeachment. Hillary connected with so many of-she had many ocassions where her care for her nation flashed-like in NH. Reagan did so too and the people stuck with him.

    It loks now like Obama will win. But dont bet the ranch-he must have his moment where he suddenly and emotively connects not just to his base to other americans. if he wins governing wil be hell if the people d not connect deeply with him.

    texan4hillary :: Obama Could Lose-He Hasnt Had the Moment
    Obama Needs to Bleed for Us
    by Sheri Rivlin and Allan Rivlin
    We have believed for some time that the bounce for the Republican ticket following the Republican Convention, in particular the surge in support among white women, has been misinterpreted. Yes, the media has been fascinated by the surprise announcement of a relatively unknown woman being placed on the ticket, but the running mate rarely draws much voter attention. We believe McCain earned much of the boost with his remarkably effective acceptance speech.

    Why does this matter now? Because Barack Obama, and his supporters still need a better understanding of why he has been unable to open a larger lead in the polls despite all the advantages he has on the issues. McCain connects with voters on levels Obama, and many Democrats, seem unable to understand.

    On an intellectual level it would seem, at least to many Democrats that this contest should be over by now. The economy is in shambles and John McCain does not support a single economic proposal that diverges from George Bush’s economic program. Voters want change on the economy and McCain has no new direction to offer them.

    ……

    And yet, the two candidates have been nearly even in the polls for months setting up what looks like another nail biter of an election, and one that could still go either way. Is this all racism as some would argue, or voters’ jitters over Obama’s relative lack of experience? Maybe, but we have a different theory.
    The problem is not Obama’s weakness as a candidate, but rather the opposite. The problem is Obama’s unwillingness to show weakness.

    Voters do not respond on the intellectual level alone. The McCain campaign knows this and the Obama campaign seems not to. When John McCain admitted that his captors in the Hanoi Hilton broke him, he connected with many voters on a level that cannot be fully understood rationally.

    ……

    Similar to the Dover New Hampshire event where tears welled up in Hillary Clinton’s eyes, “the candidate” suddenly becomes a human being. We feel we know and can trust someone because they have given us just a glimpse of their soul, shown us part of their wound, and rather than pulling away, many people, particularly women, feel a closer bond.
    Bill Clinton, and to a lesser degree Jimmy Carter seemed to understand the political impact of self disclosure, in a way that Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, and Al Gore seemed not to. Actors know this as central to their craft and in large measure it explains why Oscars tend to go to actors who play characters with real problems, such as mental illness, addictions and physical handicaps.

    Obama has not done this, at least not since completing his book, Dreams from My Father, where he details his journey to Kenya and into himself. Perhaps because this story highlights his “otherness” he feels it is best to keep it out of the narrative he tells on the campaign trail, but if he is not willing to keep sharing this part of himself he must find other parts, because without some self disclosure, many voters will not be able to build connection and trust.

    The 60 minutes interviews offered new opportunities taken by McCain and missed by Obama. McCain used the interview to again reprise his story of captivity and the lessons he learned, and he threw in a discussion of his alcoholic father and his own youthful mistakes.

    When Steve Kroft offered Obama the most fundamental question, “Why do you think you’d be a good president?” he shared — that he has an ability to bring diverse groups together.

    “I am a practical person. One of the things I’m good at is getting people in a room with a bunch of different ideas who sometimes violently disagree with each other and finding common ground, and a sense of common direction. And that’s the kind of approach that I think prevents you from making some of the enormous mistakes that we’ve seen over the last eight years.”

    Heading into the debates, Obama will have a few more chances to share more of himself and close the empathy gap. If he does this – and if it rings true rather than calculated which would be a huge error – he has the potential to move dramatically forward.

    On the other hand, the biggest mistake he could make would be any sort of reprise of Michael Dukakis’ failure to connect on this level. Many people attribute his loss to a particular moment in the 1988 debates when he was asked whether he would reverse his opposition to the death penalty if his wife, Kitty, was raped. Rather than a human showing a glimpse of the pain he would feel, America saw a policy analyst defending his issue position. That image of Dukakis in the tank didn’t help either.

    more here-

    http:/ /centeredpolitics.com/080924%20SLR%20AMR%20Bleed.htm?id=28059

  306. mp Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
    So the oil price on the market has plummeted but at my gas station I am still seeing only a drop by a few pennies!!!
    *****************************************************
    It takes a month to feel the effects….when the market goes down…crude oil goes down.

  307. The reason Obama hasn’t open up is that he is a jerk and people don’t like him except a few.

    If the Democrats hadn’t been bribing people and breaking rules to get this man elected…like tanking the market, we would have had Hillary Clinton elected.

    So, my next choice is McCain because I don’t think he will be a pushover like Obama will be.

  308. palin bites back on ap charges of racism.

    oh, and that carson city rally attracted 20-30,000 to an arena that holds 8,000.

    from nq.
    Sarah Palin responds to race baiting AP reporter Douglass K. Daniel::

    “The Associated Press is wrong,” Palin said. “The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about, and I think it’s fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room.”

    ========================================

    Douglass K. Daniel of the Associated Press is not a journalist; he is a venal operative who serves as mindless stenographer of the Obama campaign. Let us read the article he filed today at 10:43 am EST in full, beginning with its slanderous title. A revised version is available at this URL.

    I quote paid pamphleteer Douglass K. Daniel with embedded commentary:

  309. peppermintgirl4145 Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    The movie you are referring to is, “In & Out,” I love that movie!

  310. I love Palin using the NYT softpeddling Obama terrorist campanions hard….NYT thought Palin was an idiot, but she got the last laugh by using their own credibility in going after Obama.

  311. the empathy gap will continue to grow.

    there’s not a d@mn thing empathetic abut bo. he’s cold as a dead fish. that’s why he has
    blue lips.

    😈

  312. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

    from candymarl nq;
    Comment by candymarl | 2008-10-05 14:17:24

    Thank you. Ayers is white. Obama’s mom was white. Obama has white grandparents.

    Mention black folks – racist.

    Mention white folks – racist.

    New Obama campaign theme – mention any human being on the planet – racist.

  313. Fist bumps all around!

    Here’s the mcCain response to the ap race story.

    “The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008

  314. Don’t forget calling teachers racist for using a blackboard.

    I’ve always found the term colored offensive more than anything, I’m white so I’m flaming colored too in case anyone didnt notice White is a color too. So what, you are black, i’m white, my partner is brown, my cat is brown black and white with spots, who gives a damn fuck.

    These little boxes they stick us into is offensive more than anything.

  315. basil9 – speaking of empathy

    have you ever seen BHO laugh? i don’t mean his over-practiced disarming smile, i mean a real belly laugh? how about tell a joke, or, show some sense of humor? the guy is without emotion. there is something almost soulless about him.

  316. moonpluto,

    my sympathies to biden . . . .
    but . . . .
    anyone else notice the sychronicity of make-or-break moments for BO with illness and’or death?

    ted’s tumor
    ark dem leader murdered
    stj
    bernie mac
    biden’s mom

    this sh!t is getting too weird ….

  317. alcina,

    he’s reptilian. they say crack can do that to a person.

    either that or he’s the real deal manchurian candidate.

    cold dead-fish blue-lipped creep on ice. 👿

  318. Scary… my mom got upset with me about my decision to go with McCain/Palin, anyone experiencing the same.

  319. please dont say that Basil, i had visions of that scene in the Omen 2 where Damien sent the raven to kill his grandmother in her bed.

  320. justmeinmountdorafl Says: Scary… my mom got upset with me about my decision to go with McCain/Palin, anyone experiencing the same.
    ===========

    I’m not talking about it with close people. I’m unlikely to influence their vote and it’s not worth the stress on the relationship. I figure I do enough testifying on the internet.

    It’s an information gap. Till this year I coulnd’t have imagined voting GOP either. I don’t think I can give them enough information to make them understand, much less change their vote.

  321. basil,

    while I’m willing to blame Obama for many of the terrible things that he has had a hand in, I don’t believe there is a correlation of life/death issues that can be attached to him.

  322. I’m feeling a bit down today. We were at a family event today and my one sister barely spoke to me and wouldn’t even smile at me.

    She is angry that I’m not voting the Dem. ticket. She has chosen the Dems and Obama over her own sister.

    She then had her son come over to me and remind me to vote Nov. and I told him he wouldn’t like whom I’m voting for and he said, you’ll vote for our man, and I said no way.

    Even if if means losing a sister, I still won’t vote for Obama. I can’t understand how someone can choose their party over their own flesh and blood, but she has. It hurts very much, but I didn’t push her away, she pushed me away. She holds grudges for years too, but I still will not vote for Obama.

  323. ACTION ITEM

    Douglass K. Daniel of The Associated Press basically called Sarah
    Palin a racist for bringing up Obama and Ayers.

    Contact the AP, and ask them to retract the article and to issue an
    apology to Sarah Palin.
    info@ap.org

    Main Number
    +1-212-621-1500
    ————————

    More background, ammunition if you want it:

    Douglass K. Daniel of the AP Is Not a Journalist
    h t t p : / / noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/05/douglass-k-daniel-of-the-ap-is-not-a-journalist/

  324. moonpluto,

    and i forgot to mention timmie. 😈

    jan,

    i know it’s far-fetched but i wouldn’t put anything past BO and his thugs.

    The Curse of Obama

  325. bluegirl Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
    ———————————————
    It is a psychological thing. Read what the mental health counsellor said about it. I posted it yesterday at 10:34. Her anger now will turn to disillusionment later. At that point she will need you. Now is not the time–she must play out this delusion. Obama is a male predator.

  326. bluegirl,

    imho she has no right to pressure you like that.

    i don’t care if she is your sister. and sending your nephew is hitting below the belt.

    stick to you guns.

  327. justme and bluegirl

    i too have had friction in the family. my sister, who was for HRC until she and the MSM decided it was over in april/may. i asked my sister to give me one reason why she felt BHO was qualified to be CiC and she hit me with ” i’m not debating this with you” end of discussion. our relationship has been a bit awkward ever since. i think she feels i’ve gone off the deep end because of my support for JM.

    we were always close, but this has put a crimp in our relationship.

  328. Right folks, registering time is almost up.

    CLOSES MONDAY, OCTOBER 6th:

    Arizona
    Arkansas
    Colorado
    District of Columbia
    Florida
    Georgia
    Hawaii
    Indiana
    Kentucky
    Louisiana
    Michigan
    Mississippi
    Ohio*
    Pennsylvania
    Tennessee
    Texas
    Virginia

    Those in bold are swing states.

    Please note that the following states close tommorow, but have in person exceptions:

    Montana (or same day at elections office)
    Utah (in person Tue, Oct. 28)

    —————————————–

    Upcoming this week:

    October 7:
    Illinois
    New Mexico

    October 10:
    Oklahoma
    New York
    North Carolina

    October 11: Delaware

    Last chance to get these folks signed up!!! Make sure everyone you know and might vote for McCain is registered!!!

  329. Let’s see:
    an investigation of Bo’s birth certificate,
    campaign donations
    Rezko

    Sunday, October 05, 2008
    RNC: Obama Accepted Illegal, Foreign Campaign Cash
    Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 1:01 PM
    The Republican National Committee is filing a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission over what they believe are illegal donations made to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign from foreign sources.

    “We believe they have been accepting donations from foreign nationals and excessive contributions,” said RNC Communications Director Danny Diaz. He said there were “questions with regards to the legitimacy” of the hundreds of millions low-dollar contributions Obama has received

  330. I sent the following email to AP. Thanks TurnDownObama-com.

    Re: Calling people who are not for Obama racist is not an acceptable thing with Joe and Sarah SixPack

    AP and Douglass K. Daniel, journalism and reporting died in 2008. The Associated Press basically called Sarah
    Palin a racist for bringing up Obama and Ayers. This draws me a picture of how biased and whacky our sources of news has become this year.

    2008 is the year that journalism and reporting of news died; may you rest in peace – NOT! Hillary supporters have been called racist so much by those who know little and blindly follow, that calling me a racist at this point is almost a badge of honor. Damn right I am against the unqualified, liar who has really really bad associations [My mama told me, you are what your friends are], who is unpatriotic and likely not even a bonafide candidate for POTUS.

    The more you lay it on thick against McCain, the patriot and reformer, and Palin, the only one with Executive experience and reformer, the more I LIOKE THEM, even though I am a “bitter” typical white woman as nObama has stated. Furthermore and in addition to that, Joe and Sarah Sixpack have a lot more sense and strong backbone than AP, the MSM, the undemocratic Democratic Party, or nObama and his “not proud of America” wife.

  331. Sympathy to the Biden mother-in-law news…

    but yeah certin timing is always there…

    I know people will think I am heartless but remember Ted K. being taken to the hospital just before the first debate and then returning home within a few hrs…

    Maybe he is not that sick…..maybe he is “PLAYING THE MARKET”…..monitoring which thing to bring down next…

  332. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    Scary… my mom got upset with me about my decision to go with McCain/Palin, anyone experiencing the same.
    *****************************************************
    Ignore it. My whole family except my son who might vote Republican with me but I told very early that McCain was my #2 pick if Hillary didn’t win.

    I don’t have a problem going against the bot, when I’m right. Okay after review all the facts and voting for the best candidate…my standard give back is…would you hire someone with no expieriece to won you Billion dollar company in perilious times? They all lie so I tell you’re lying and you can’t even be honest about it…I’m voting McCain/Palin.

    Question: Why is your mom upset…is it because she is a Hillary supporter or a Democrat till I die?

  333. In my opinion the Dimocrats own the mortagage crisis just as much as the Repugs own the Enron crisis. The Dims refused to institute the reforms John McCain and Administration representatives advocated which would have spared us a crisis of this terrible magnitude. They trashed the people who advocated the reforms and assured the public that the institutions were fiscally sound. Hillary was critical of those institutions as well, advocated specific reforms but Pelosi, Frank and Dodd turned a deaf ear as I understand it.

  334. Biden is the vp, I don’t vote for Biden…McCain/Palin should continue to pound on Obama and let McCain hit all those manly places or townhall meetings with senior citizens and the military.

    Let Palin hit the ground running with her huge crowds that Obama can’t seem to get up any more.

    Hit him on National Security and use the NYT to “club him over his head”…I wish a gop 527 would make a video showing Obama congratulating Kwamie great governing of Detroit with the caption….With judgement like this would you want him to be in charge of you economic security…McCain/Palin honesty, Integrity and Reform.

  335. Even though the AP shop did everything they possibly could to destroy Hillary’s campaign including espionage (Beth Fouhey), character assassination, and blatant partisan lies and even though they are equally determined to paint Palin as an ignorant back woods racist which she certainly is not, I wish AP no ill will. All I ask is that each one of them die of hanging or a terrible disease the sooner the better– Gladstone.

  336. My new mantra:

    ALL YOU RACIST[Redneck, backwoods, bitter, Joe and Sarah Sixpack, John Q Public, Jane Q Public, the undecideds, the uneducated, the unemployed, the underemployed, those without health care insurance, etc etc] PEOPLE UNITE! Tell pollster you are voting for nObama, but when in the privacy of the voting booth – VOTE RACIST [AS IN THE HUMAN RACE] –

    VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN.

    Let’s MAKE IT RAIN MCCAIN!!!!!!

    Please everyone, help with GOTV, be boots on the ground in a swing state, and vote against nOBAMA.

  337. wobbei, as I have said before, and I will say again for nObma, MO, the DNC, MSM, AP, Tweety, KO, etc etc etc,

    I want the Bird of Paradise to fly up each of their noses, and an

    ELEPHANT TO CARESS THEM WITH ITS TOES –

    that big ol GOP elephant.

  338. Who better to go after Bo than sarah?

    After the abuse the press heaped on HER how can anyone really criticize her for heaping on BO?

    Plus, they all think she’s not competent or intelligent enough to matter so why should they give a d@mn what that fluffy airhead does or says, right?

    You Betcha! 😀

  339. carbynew,

    You touched on a very important point. Why can’t Obama get those huge crowds anymore?

    I am thrilled that Palin is getting such huge numbers. To me, this one thing makes a complete mockery of all those crooked polls that have Obama so far ahead.

  340. nObama our first Affirmative Action President, if we don’t work to stop it.

    Just say it ain’t so, Joe, that you are tied to this socialist, communist, marxist, Machivellian, Manchurian candidate, please!

  341. From one of my fav posters at nq, jeremiah, on the ayers-obama conection.
    very interesting.

    Barack Obama LIED to the american People about his involvement.

    WHY?

    And in a hamfisted Double-Pronged attack from his Propoganda Arm of the Main Stream Obama Media Today:

    The New York Times tried to White-Wash the Investigation into the Annenburg challenge papers and the discovery of much more of a connection between Barry and Bill earlier today and is spining it like a top and trying to revise and explain like crazy
    and
    the AP attempted to warn off the McCain Campaign with threats of being painted as racists if they pursued it.

    WHAT IS BARACK OBAMA HIDING?

    What is so important that he would go on national television and lie to the american public about the level of involvement with Bill Ayers at a debate and push back so hard.

    Why call out his Media Lap dogs to print the campaigns talking points as a news story and smear his rivals as racists if they pursue this?

    WHAT IS BARACK HIDING FROM????

    What does he not want people to know about hisd time running the annenburg challange that qualifies him as having executive experience, his only executive experience? Why is there no mention of Annenburg on his Often cited 1 page resume for the Job of President of the United States?

    Is it his sharing of the Bill Ayers values and ideas regarding public education?

    Is it the total mismanagement of the Annenburg Challenge Funds?

    Is it how those funds were dispursed and the school programs used to cause a decline in education quality to support the Ayers dogma?

    Is it his heavy involvement with these radicals that he now wants to claim he hardly knew?

    What exactly is it he doesn’t want the american Public to know?

    We already Know Billy Bomber Blew stuff up, what could possibly be worse than that?

  342. I honestly don’t think Obama knows what to do about Sarah Palin. He sure as heck didn’t know what to do about Hillary so he kept putting her down like a bully. I’m waiting for him to start with Sarah…i.e…it’s her time of the month, etc… I’m sure she’ll bite his head off…lol…

  343. He is going to ignore her, that was the mistake he made after the convention. He gave her all this attention, and she isn’t at the top of the ticket. It was a strategic mistake. Just got off the phone with a friend who just registered here in Florida to vote for obama. I didn’t even try, her dad is screaming at her for supporting Obama. she knows where I stand. This is a military spouse too. So we will cancel out each others votes.

  344. Lin, you will cancel each other out but Obama will have to get another vote somewhere else to move ahead.

  345. If his crowds are no longer huge, it is because they have not hired a rock band, and provided free beer.

  346. # basil9 Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    ya gotta lurve Sarah!

    “……the heels are on, the gloves come off”
    $$$$$$$$$

    Trivia time. Who first used the word “lurve”?

    Basil, you’re not allowed to play in this round…

  347. Off to relax and watch Hannity’s America at 9ET. Sent Sean Hannity an email telling him it is October. Surprise Me, and to break a leg tonight. I also thanked him for all he does for Americans many who are unknowing and unwilling.

    Email friends and family to watch the show tonight, especially any leaning toward the unthinkable Manchurian candidate.

  348. What is going to happen to the U.S. economy if our government is under the control of Obama, a pawn of anti-Americans funded by foreign nationals? Our enemies want to hit us while our economy is vulnerable. Al Queada is just waiting for their man to get in, then they will deliver the strike to send the U.S. economy into a depression.

  349. rgb44hrc Says: who was the first to use the word “lurve”?

    Evidently Barry White was the first icon of lurve, but who was the first to use it? Curiosity has me.

  350. rgb,

    But I know the answer to that one!

    That’s not fair! You’re discriminating against people who have been on the forum the longest and are the pinkest posters!

    You’re a racist and I’m gonna TELL!!!!!!!!!!

    😉

  351. basil9, I am the most RACIST and sp very proud of it. Racist in my book means ‘RIGHT’ in this election cycle and I would rather be right than wrong – therefore I am RACIST all day long.
    Okay rgb, give it up, must have been a hillaryis44’er? Was it Admin?

  352. okay basil, you’re right, that was soooo racist of me. I mean, it was totally geared toward upper crust educated elites.

    Tell you the truth, I know who the director was. But I forget which movie. Was it AH? The same one where he tells Tony Roberts, “What, are you going to drive through plutonium?”.

    I get his films jumbled in my brain.

  353. shorttermer, we’ll give it a little bit for people to take their guesses.

    Don’t forget, there are VALUABLE PRIZES.

    First Prize: First row seat to watching Obama’s face on election eve when he finds out he lost.

  354. Thanks guys for your response.

    wbboei, thank you and you are right.

    Basil, don’t worry, I am sticking to my guns. That’s one thing I’m good at, lol. When I decide what I think is the right thing, then I don’t let anyone talk me into something different. Since it can’t be Hillary, then it’s going to be McCain.

    I just wish people’s families didn’t make it so hard on us. My sister is voting for Obama, but I wouldn’t dream of casting her aside for it. That’s her choice, even if I don’t like it, lol. I do think it’s a bit extreme though for people to treat others like this because we don’t support the same candidate.

    They are all acting exactly like Obama, aren’t they?

  355. JanH Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    I honestly don’t think Obama knows what to do about Sarah Palin.
    &&&&&&&&&

    He might have a fantasy that would make Michele jealous. He screws everyone over, SP would be just one more.

  356. Ohio’s Same Day Registration/Vote a Bust

    On Chris Wallaces Fox News Sunday show Karl Rove addresses the problem of same day registration and vote in Ohio and whether it will pose a problem for Republicans.

    He said that dispite all the build-up, buses, speakers, drivers, organizers, and ads that less than 5/100th of one percent took advantage of the opportunity.

    Bambi is getting nothing out of new voters in Ohio.

    A graphic showed about 500 around Cleveland, 3-400 around Columbus, and 2-300 around Cincinnati.

    Rove went out to point out that many of those might not be new registrations, but formerly registered voters re-registering, so the impact is negligible.

  357. shorttermer,
    that is a terrific ad.

    ADMIN! Please embed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etJtGEm8vLY

    bluegal,
    i try to avoid taking politics with anyone except people on this site and a couple of others. It is bizarre the polarizing effect BO has had on this campaign. He has pushed people further apart than ever. I’ve said this before, if he steals the GE ther will be another civil war.

  358. PMLMAO

    ‘Dateline NBC’ Alumna Jane Pauley Again Stumps for Obama: 40 People Showed Up

    Jane Pauley, one-time co-host of NBC’s Today and Dateline NBC programs, is actively campaigning for Barack Obama. A couple of weeks ago, one such appearance in Portage, Indiana that attracted only eight people. That event also featured Steve Skvara, the retired steelworker who in August of last year tearfully asked Democratic presidential candidates at a debate, “What’s wrong with America? And what will you do to change it?”

    Appearing before a crowd of about 40 area Democrats, Indiana-born broadcast journalist Jane Pauley opened her speech at Democratic Headquarters in Anderson Thursday afternoon by alluding to her own hopes for the upcoming presidential election.

  359. Did any of you see John Voight yesterday on CNN? He was being interviewd by a CNN reporter and when he tried to say what he wanted to say, the guy tried to cut him off and John said to wait, that he had something to say.

    He said that it was almost criminal for the media to be so biased and not to be telling the public about both candidates truthfully so that they can then decide which one is the best. I was cheering him on.

  360. rgb,

    I’ll take the booby prize – seeing MO’s face. She might scowl so much her face will disappear. That I’d like to see. 👿

    moon,

    yeah, i read that. hope it’s true.

  361. Scary… my mom got upset with me about my decision to go with McCain/Palin, anyone experiencing the same.

    ROTFLMAO!! You kidding?? I’m bi-racial ! Try being a person of color and saying your voting McCain!

    (but my mother (who is AA)…not a problem. She’s a dem for McCain)

  362. See the difference this year.

    We may disagree that someone is voting for Obama, we respect that decision but if you even suggest you are voting for McCain, they go major league nutzoid on you.

    Curiously its how many people I know, know they’ve made the right decision because whoever the nuts support is really not who you should be voting for.

  363. Basil,

    I’ve never heard of this happening with any other election in my life. It’s Obama that has just turned everything unside down.

  364. McCain-Obama tie possible in presidential race

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4941C220081005?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – What if it’s a tie?

    A handful of battleground states are likely to determine the November 4 U.S. presidential election and it’s possible that Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama could split them in a manner that leaves each just short of victory.

    If that happens, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives would pick the president but it’s unclear whether Democrats would have enough votes to send Obama to the White House.

    The House last decided an election in 1824. But the legal skirmishing and partisan rancor would probably resemble a more recent election — the 2000 vote in which Republican George W. Bush narrowly defeated Democrat Al Gore after a disputed Florida vote count and legal battle.

    “This would be the seamy side of democracy, the lobbying and the money would be so intense,” said American University history professor Allan Lichtman.

    In the United States, presidential elections are determined on a state-by-state basis rather than a nationwide popular vote. Each state, along with the District of Columbia, is allotted a number of votes in the Electoral College that correspond to the number of representatives it has in Congress. To become president, a candidate must win at least 270 electoral votes.

    If McCain wins Virginia, New Hampshire, Florida and Ohio but loses Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa to Obama, both candidates could end up with 269 electoral votes.

    Other, less likely scenarios — McCain losing Virginia and New Hampshire but winning Michigan, for example — also could result in a tie.
    ******
    [but this is what is very very scary] * House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become acting president if neither chamber could settle on a president or vice president but she would have to resign her post.

  365. idunn,

    ‘Try being a person of color and saying your voting McCain!’

    or being irish white and working in predominantly AA schools. Ya know, getting ill was horrible – the one saving grace is it got me out of what must now be an even more explosive environment. Parents were hurling unsubstantiated and false charges of racism against teachers before BO and I imagine it will only get worse. And the white people who get offended when they learn you’re not voting BO seem to be desperately trying to challenge black rage and see themselves as victims as well – vicarious living on a dangerous level.

  366. Basil, I HATE the idea of children being indoctrinated into the political environment. Period. I’ve actually heard children as young as 6 or 7 say, “I’m a democrat!” No, you aren’t…you’re a kid. And you don’t know shit about world affairs or political issues and you’re not SUPPOSED to!

    There’s a REASON you’re not eligible to vote until you’re 18, for heavens sake.

    And all this talk about, well, we only do it because we want to teach our children something about civics, is complete and utter crap. If you REALLY want to teach your kids about civics, take them to civic league meeting where they can see how they can make changes in their community. And then help them implement those changes…pick up the trash on the lakeshore, or encourage them to help and elderly neighbor cut their grass. But don’t indoctrinate them into shit they haven’t the ability to understand. Geez.

  367. hmmmmmm.
    very interesting and explosive.
    Hannity is covering BO’s refusal to say anything about his NYC or Harvard years, refusing to release his transcript, refusing to name one person he was friends with during that time . . at harvard there is not one piece of paper attributed to BO…
    then hannity talks about al-monsour – the black radical who lobbied to get BO into harvard – mansour is an advisor to saudi arabia AND to the (former) black panthers. He’s shown on video saying there are no crimes against white people – cut off their noses, their ears, tear their flesh out – they deserve it all. next up is community organizing.

  368. WOW!

    I didn’t know louis farrakhan lived in BO’s neighborhood along with Ayers!

    this is a good program. The theme is that BO was introduced to radicalism in NYC, went to Chicago under the auspicis of Ayers to prove his commitment by doing community organizing which, according to andy martin, meant organizing BO’s career, and after passing the test, ayers and mansour raised money to send BO to Harvard for the next step. The point is BO wanting a chavez/castro style of socialism that will freeze out anyone not signing on. Sound familiar?

  369. Can you imagine the look on bambi and michelles faces right now watching this huge haul of shit drop.

  370. I wish that the connection between O and Ayers wouldn’t be just about his fundraiser in Ayers’ home but about Ayers struggle to combine ‘white’ warriors or soldiers and the BLACK LIBERATION MOVEMENT! That’s something that will ring a bell.

    Calling Rev. Wright.

  371. iDunn, here’s my shorthand for this segment,

    Now on Ayers.
    Ayers attack on murtagh and his family
    3 firebombs – one in car – free the panther 21 spray-painted on sidewalk in front of house the viet cong have won – one of 3 attacks in NYC –
    bombs thrown at a police station in manhattan and military recruiting stations in Brooklyn

    1995 – ayers has coming out party for BO. Served as director for non-profit woods program from 95 to 2002.
    Spoke on panel with 6 people at u of Illinois – hannity listing other associations between ayers and BO and says BO has lied.

    Bo tried to distance himself but can’t erase their past together.

    Obama and radical friends and history of radicalism.

    Infiltrated weather underground – larry grathwole
    Worked for the fbi
    Lived with bill ayers
    Sent from cell to cell
    Taught him how to build a bomb and which cities to target.
    Picked out Chicago police building in the 13th precinct.
    Ayers assigned people to bombing locations
    Larry objected coz target was next to a restaurant
    Ayers said in a revolution innocent people have to die.

    I’Ve ever seen that guy before.

  372. Idunn Says:

    October 5th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
    Holy shit, he brought up Khalid al-Mansour ??!!

    —————————————————————————

    Where is Confloyd? She was talking about Al-Mansour.

  373. She’s totally missing out. 🙁

    Alot of us have been following the al-monsour thing on RBO and elsewhere.

    CONNIE!!! CAN YOU HEAR US!!! TURN IT TO FOX, GIRL!!!

    (Lol)

  374. the muppets in mainstream wont have heard any of this just pricked up their ears. People have only started paying attention and thats what Bambi is scared off.

  375. Obama and his thugs are going to go ballistic over this. Just wait for a letter of hatred to go to the network. Just wait for Hannity to be declared the worst racist in history.

    Thank God at least one network isn’t completely in the tank for this piece of garbage! Nobama Ever!

  376. idunn,
    more shorthand

    How close was BO to wright and phlegler.
    Late 1980’s – while community organizer, BO met wright.
    Much of this is known
    White folks greed runs a world in need
    Afro-centric theology based on combs
    Free black people under white oppression
    Began in 1960s in latin America
    Jesus is a redeemer of the oppressed
    Iran-contra scandal is an example of exploitation
    Liberation theology in Nicaragua – anti-us religion
    Jesus christ on the alter was a sandinista soldier

    Wright bo stuff
    Turn the tables on white supremacy and have a woman living legally at 1600 pennsylvania avenue

    this stuff you know – the naacp speech, etc.
    National press club interview

    Now hannity on phlegler, another community organizer
    Wright and phlegler close to Farrakhan
    Phlegler called Farrakhan A gift from god to help the world

    1999 phlegler supported bo for senate
    bo steered money to phlegler
    phlelgler head of catholics for obama committee

    unfortunately for BO the truth has been revelaed and the aerican people know what the truth is

    u

  377. even if this starts people thinking and asking questions, people are going to be talking about this tomorrow.

  378. Just wait for a letter of hatred to go to the network. Just wait for Hannity to be declared the worst racist in history.

    Shit, hope Hannity hired a body guard. LOL…but then, since I don’t think anything is impossible where Oliar is concerned…no lol.

  379. Knew most of what you shorthanded, Basil. But I didn’t know this part:

    Phlegler called Farrakhan A gift from god to help the world

    1999 phlegler supported bo for senate
    bo steered money to phlegler
    phlelgler head of catholics for obama committee

    Phlelgler is someone I never took the time to really examine. (Note to self: check out Phlelger during morning coffee)

  380. # birdgal Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Sounds like Hannity is talking about all the stuff that has been on this blog.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Hey, Sean, come back as often as you like. It’s all free, it’s all good.

    “Just doin’ my job, ma’am”.

  381. Isreal problems

    relationship with a ,man with ties with PLO
    Israel
    Rasheed khalidi, Columbian professor, Palestinian, taught at university of Chicago

    His kids go to my kids school

    Another radical relationship
    Alledged former member of a terror organization
    Plo member when it was a terror organization
    Employee of plo when plo was terrorist

    Head of middle east program at Columbia
    Helped ahmadinjad come to us

    Financial; web connects bo to former plo agent

    Woods foundation
    (This guy is mumbling ). .
    Fundraiser for bo in 2000
    Chicago based woods fund
    Khalidi thanks ayers in his book
    (Forgot the name)
    All 3 on the same committee
    Relationship not just social but political

    Bo held lavish farewell dinner for khaleedi before he left for columbia

    Allies of Palestinians see a friend in bo

    Palestinian deferred
    Running sore says khaleedi
    Bo says ‘this constant sore’ colors our foreign policy in the atlantic

    Ethnic cleansing of Palestinian

    Ahmed youusef of hammas likes bo and hopes he’ll change america

  382. That quote from Hamas, in support of BO, would have been more effective, if the video clip had been shown. That video cllip was downright creepy.

  383. Seriously with all this shit, that Hanity is dropping, how could any american vote for this turd of a candidate.

  384. The DU and Kos crowd are having shitfits, totally apoplectic derangement. Some are even saying, i didnt know half this stuff.

  385. last segment.
    Close ties to ACORN.

    BO says it affected his political views

    One of the groups he worked most closely with is ACORN
    Largest radical group in America
    Uses shady tactics and intimidation to get what it wants
    Disguises itself as community activists

    Now listing of ACORN fraud
    Voter registration schemes’’of 1800 only 6 were valid

    Strongarm tactics to force banks
    Direct actin
    Militant action
    Send people to bank officials homes to scare them

    BO
    Madeline Talbot head of acorn asked bo to train her force

    BO channeled money to Talbot and acorn through woods and Chicago annenberg challenge

    Early legal affiliation – represented them in several cases

    Constitutionality of motor-voter law
    Bo represented them
    Bo helped protestors to break into business meetings and stand there silently without doing anythingphysical but intimidating them

    Acorn organizers bo helped to train worked for BO in early campaigns with GOTV
    Using acorn as an election arm of his campaign

    Paid 800,000 to citizens services inc for GOTV.

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! DOUBLE WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bo bullied banks into giving bad loans with intimidation techniques he trained ACORN workers to use

    BO REPRESENTED ACORN!!!!!! OMGi

  386. Khalidi too?! WTF…. this is BEYOND awesome!! Shit we’ve all known and talked about for months and months and were pulling our hair out because we couldn’t get it out to the public!!

    SEAN…I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  387. Thank God someone has done his homework! It’s for sure the other media outlets know all this but could care less.

    CNN, MSNBN, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc…you are profess to be the most “honest” and “trusted” names in the business. Instead you are the exact opposite!

  388. Hannity just scratched the surface. We have known about ACORN, and BO’s work with them. Interesting how Hannity is tying the subprime loans to our current economic crisis. We have been hearing about it, from the top down. Now, we are hearing about it, from the bottom up. I hope this information goes somewhere. It has been available on this blog, Rezkowatch, and NOQuarter.

  389. Its things like this that force others to pay attention, if enough voters ask, why were we not told about any of this, the more msm will start talking about it, we ned to keep the discussion going, wherever you are tomorrow, just bring it up, mention it, discuss it. Keep it alive.

  390. looks like Hannity’s show is catching people worried.

    Looks as if the DUmmies saw the show!

    my3boyz (1000+ posts)
    Sun Oct-05-08 09:52 PM
    Original message

    My mom is watching that garbage on FOX. My stepfather was flipping Advertisements [?]channels and stopped on that channel because he saw OBAMA. Anyway, I told her it was right wing trash and she was like really? Then she started telling me about how they were showing Obama’s house and how Obama lives near Ayers and Farrakan (sp?). I kept telling her I did not want to hear it. I told her you could not pay me to watch Fox. Finally I told her that if she wanted to watch Fox then okay but that I had to go because I was not going to listen to her tell me about it. I did not want to hear it. I’m sure she is still glued to the show. I hope she does not believe it. She was going out of her mind during the primary listening to the garbage on CNN. Fox is a million times worse. Anyway, I hope there aren’t others just channel surfing and land on that to listen to that garbage.

    heheheheheheh

  391. 1 -Ayers
    2 -Al-Mansour
    3 – Wright
    4 – Phlegler
    5 – ACORN
    6 – Khaleedi
    7 -Farrakhan
    8 – ACORn
    9 – Chavez
    10 – Castro
    11 – Phlegler
    12 – Talbot
    13 – Sandinistas

  392. Guys, Hannity would need a week long emmy award winning miniseries to cover the whole of Obama’s shit. He had 1 hr and did a great job, i’m seeing on various blogs, this show has hit the mark, its really scaring a lot of people and lots of people never knew any of it.

  393. Excellent Point!! No one from high school in Hawaii,
    no one from Columbia (not a professor or a student) and no one from Harvard Law School talking about their support for Obama. No interviews in the media with former professors and/or fellow students.

    I find the lack of information about his years at Columbia
    particularly troublesome

    I mean its like he just appeared from Nowhere, I’m beginning to wonder if he did

  394. by the way on the Just One Minute Blog a commentator says that he lives in Obama’s neighborhood and that Ayers and his wife babysat for the Obama children. God it would be great if that could be proved. If Tom Brokaw would ask him that question. Yea that will happen when I win 1 billion dollars on the lottery.

  395. From Kos:

    They’re not very smart … (0+ / 0-)
    … if they think it will still work.
    Bringing up Ayers again (and also, I expect, Wright) makes me wonder if the Republicans actually believe in forgiveness, rehabilitation, and redemption (all part of the religion they claim to favor if not practice), or if they just believe in revenge unto the Nth generation (where N is an integer greater than one).

    ROTFL!!! They can only talk about Ayers and Wright because they didn’t have a clue who Khalidi and al-monsour are!!! Oh my god, this is so rich I can’t hardly stand it. I may expire on the spot!!!

  396. no one from Columbia (not a professor or a student) and no one from Harvard Law School talking about their support for Obama. No interviews in the media with former professors and/or fellow students.

    Ummm…have we ever checked to make sure he isn’t a robot? Maybe we’ve been going about this from the wrong angle from the start. 😉

  397. More from KOS:

    Actually, I think Obama can handle this.

    Recall, Obama is a gifted leader and has a plan.

    Sieg-fucking-heil , ya’ll!! LMAO!!

  398. Sean Hannity, if you’re lurking, good job!

    Some of this material, about ACORN and Obama gettting the banks to make these bad loans, is posted at a diary of mine at clintondems.com, with possibly more detail.

    I’ve also got a diary there with sources on Obama’s ‘community organizing’ in Chicago.

  399. sean, here
    h t t p : / / clintondems.com/2008/09/obamasalinskys-community-organizing-about-power-many-articles/

  400. Why isn’t the DOJ all over this??? I’ve wondering about this for months. Everything is coming together. A stealth candidate. I’m not much of a conspiracy person, but the pieces are falling into place. Was his trip to Pakistan a training trip?

  401. sean,

    Both the ‘community organizing’ info and the ACORN/sub-prime info are in the same diary:

    h t t p : / / clintondems.com/2008/09/obamasalinskys-community-organizing-about-power-many-articles/

    See O’S DANGEROUS PALS By STANLEY KURTZ
    WHAT exactly does a “community organizer” do? Barack Obama’s rise has left many Americans asking themselves that question. Here’s a big part of the answer: Community organizers intimidate banks into making high-risk loans to customers with poor credit.
    In the name of fairness to minorities, community organizers occupy private offices, chant inside bank lobbies, and confront executives at their homes – and thereby force financial institutions to direct hundreds of millions of dollars in mortgages to low-credit customers. [….]

  402. ==============ACORN & VOTER FRAUD============================

    Obama’s ACORN Voter Fraud
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJpLUOZqo

    ===========ECONOMIC CRISIS & OBAMA’S FRIENDS, ACORN============

    Economic crisis and Obama’s friends
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaABV1CWXug

    What Just Happened?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA

    Obama, ACORN and associates
    http://www.justsaynodeal.com/acorn

    ===========OBAMA & RADICALISM = JUDGMENT??===================

    Obama Radical to the Core
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFa6SmWnbc

    The Obama-Khalidi Connection (American Thinker) October 04, 2008
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/the_obamakhalidi_connection.html

    Obama and Khalid Mansour
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug
    (Listen to Mr.Percy Sutton, Former Manhattan Borough President… He gave reference letter with recommendation to Harvard Law Review based on Dr.Khalid Al-Mansour’s introduction. Al-Mansour told this Sutton that Obama had passed the requirements necessary to get into Harvard and become president of the Law Review. And this guy wrote a letter to his friend in Harvard based on Al-Mansour’s phonecall.)

    The Inconvenience of Truth prt 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReiRkCw-_E

    Avoiding Armageddon (PBS) – Click on each country.
    http://www.pbs.org/avoidingarmageddon/learnTheFacts/wmd_primer.html

    http://www.barackobamaassociates.info (open in Internet Explorer)

    Mason vs Silverman: The Ultimate Jew vs The Ultimate Yenta
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbq7uTyWTCw

    ============================================================

    Michelle Obama’s friends
    http://titaniajones.pnn.com/articles/show/23448-michelle-obama-s-friends

    Cindy’s work around the world: “Operation Smile”
    http://mccainblogette.com/docs/video/

    ============================================================

    Chose
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3383QdT2g

    Right Change – Fought
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcf4JzIrcu4&eurl

    BTW I’m Voting For Mccain / Palin (Good perspective)

  403. ==============ACORN & VOTER FRAUD============================

    Obama’s ACORN Voter Fraud
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJpLUOZqo

    ===========ECONOMIC CRISIS & OBAMA’S FRIENDS, ACORN============

    Economic crisis and Obama’s friends
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaABV1CWXug

    What Just Happened?
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA

    Obama, ACORN and associates
    h t t p : / / http://www.justsaynodeal.com/acorn

    ===========OBAMA & RADICALISM = JUDGMENT??===================

    Obama Radical to the Core
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFa6SmWnbc

    The Obama-Khalidi Connection (American Thinker) October 04, 2008
    h t t p : / / http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/the_obamakhalidi_connection.html

    Obama and Khalid Mansour
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug
    (Listen to Mr.Percy Sutton, Former Manhattan Borough President… He gave reference letter with recommendation to Harvard Law Review based on Dr.Khalid Al-Mansour’s introduction. Al-Mansour told this Sutton that Obama had passed the requirements necessary to get into Harvard and become president of the Law Review. And this guy wrote a letter to his friend in Harvard based on Al-Mansour’s phonecall.)

    The Inconvenience of Truth prt 2
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReiRkCw-_E

    Avoiding Armageddon (PBS) – Click on each country.
    h t t p : / / http://www.pbs.org/avoidingarmageddon/learnTheFacts/wmd_primer.html

    http://www.barackobamaassociates.info (open in Internet Explorer)

    Mason vs Silverman: The Ultimate Jew vs The Ultimate Yenta
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbq7uTyWTCw

    ============================================================

    Michelle Obama’s friends
    h t t p : / / titaniajones.pnn.com/articles/show/23448-michelle-obama-s-friends

    Cindy’s work around the world: “Operation Smile”
    h t t p : / / mccainblogette.com/docs/video/

    ============================================================

    Chose
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3383QdT2g

    Right Change – Fought
    h t t p : / / uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcf4JzIrcu4&eurl

    BTW I’m Voting For Mccain / Palin (Good perspective)
    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhYampIl7A

  404. Obama Has NO Law License???

    Obama relinquished his Illinois law license in early 2007.

    Why would Obama give up something that provided his primary source of income
    and something he spent so much time and energy obtaining?

    Interesting article at Citizen Wells site this morning…

    citizenwells.wordpress.com/

    And then there’s this one!!! Michelle Obama gave up her law license too WTF???

    james4america.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/michelle-obama-does-not-have-a-law-license-in-illinois/

    A check of the State of Illinois Bar Association website shows no bar license for “Michelle Robinson” or “Michelle Obama”. It has been reported that Michelle Obama “voluntarily” gave up her law license in 1993, just five years after she got the license.

    Why would a black woman who worked at a prestigious law firm in Chicago, who had graduated from one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and who had endured the grueling task of sitting for the bar exam TWICE, then voluntarily give up her law license?

  405. Petition drive to have Barack Hussein Obama impeached from the us IL senate!!
    —————————————–
    I signed and added the comment: “Senator Obama is unfit for public office”.

  406. wbboei

    I signed and my comment was

    It’s about damn time those that are paid and elected by the American People
    Start doing their DAMN JOB!!! or move on over for someone who will!!!

  407. So TaylorMarsh is having a conniption, saying that Palin is lying and swiftboating and a racist for talking about Ayers. I just posted on her blog for the first time in months:

    So, Taylor, were you lying and swiftboating and a racist when you said this?

    The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth won’t have to make stuff up about Obama. His relationship with Ayers is a fact, as they also were both seated on a nine-member board of the Woods Fund in 1999, for three years … Quotes like the one below from Ayers are a general election gift to your opponent, especially considering Obama has no problem sitting on a board with this thug, or taking a meeting with him when launching your political career.”

    Taylor went on to say in the article that the Obama/Ayers connection is “an issue on which Republicans will seize. Why wouldn’t they? … This goes well beyond the Rezko connection. In the bad judgment file, any association whatsoever with a domestic terrorist who actively tried to thwart an air war during the Vietnam war, calls our Marines “terrorists,” while also being unrepentant about it, shows a lack of seriousness I will never accept. John McCain’s personal disgust at this connection between Obama and Ayers will bring out a righteous fury that will likely pit the War Hero against the Terrorist’s Friend, which is just one angle Obama’s opponents will use. “

    http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27075

    Fine for you to talk about it months ago, but not fine now for anyone else?

  408. ooops, earlier, I said unside down, instead of upside down, lol.

    Boy, did Sean Hannity ever say what needed to be said so desperately! WOW! I’d love to have been a fly on the wall in the Obama house if he and Michelle were watching it, lol.

    I’m glad someone still has courage.

  409. from politico, Obama is going to hit McCain on Keating five… I know it was S&L scandal… Can somebody who know more about what happened comment on its impact now?

  410. Looks like the gloves are coming off this week for both campaigns. McCain will come out on top of this one for sure! Obama is bad to the bone!

  411. It’s about damn time those that are paid and elected by the American People
    Start doing their DAMN JOB!!! or move on over for someone who will!!!
    —————————————-
    Dija: I like your comment better than mine.

  412. Looks like the gloves are coming off this week for both campaigns. McCain will come out on top of this one for sure! Obama is bad to the bone!
    ——————————————–
    Confloyd: Keating 5 is ancient history. It is ancienct history and that problem was bi-partisan. As I recall Cranston (D-Ca), Riegel (D-Mi) were also involved. I would venture to guess that the public is rather more interested in something au currant-like the mortage mess which is a Democratic problem. Ideally, JM would mention that he, Snow and Hillary forsaw the problem and proposed proactive steps whereas Obama and his allies, i.e. Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, Raines thwarted implementation of those steps and told everyone there was no problem. As a result they created the most serious finacial crisis to hit the country since 1929, and the shock waves from it are reverberating around the world.

  413. wbboei

    Wasn’t JMcCain finally absolved of any criminal or fiduciary malfeasence in the S and L Keating 5 mess?

    I thought he apologized in public for being lax, but just kept on keeping on until the charges were dropped (or never brought.)

    We need to get educated, quickly, on the issue…it needs to be someone older than dirt, which means older than me.

  414. A current No Quarter post said that JM and John Glenn were absolved early on and that JM was not even lax

  415. wbboei, Yeah, I know about the Keating Five, its old history. I have been waiting for this month and Hannity has started the ball rolling. I just hope it keeps going. My daughter was over today watching TV and noticed Obama has his own channel. 24hr plans for America by Obama! Yuk, this man has broke the bank to win this election and people are still mesmerized by this idiot.
    They lady I told you all about last week, called me a racist on Friday. They seem to think that if you don’t vote for Obama your a racist. She can call whatever she likes but I own my vote. She said all the internet stuff are lies. He has really convinced alot of folks. She screamed at me as she was walking away that those internet lies were the work of Carl Rove, funny I thought Obama and his campaign said they were started by the Clinton when he was going against her! DUMBASSES all of them!

  416. Some other folks at work seem to think just because Sarah says things like doggonit, it disqualifies her from being president. People are just plain stupid!

  417. Confloyd: you might try a diplomatic approach with this bot and tell her she has a right to her opinion even though it is floridly delusional.

  418. RE: McCain and the Keating 5….Just a snippet that was posted in a article today but believe me…….it is the only decent part of the LEFTIST article.
    Just months into his Senate career, in the late 1980s, McCain made what he has called “the worst mistake of my life.” He participated in two meetings with banking regulators on behalf of Keating, a friend, campaign contributor and savings and loan financier who was later convicted of securities fraud.
    The Senate ethics committee investigated five senators’ relationships with Keating. It cited McCain for a lesser role than the others, but faulted his “poor judgment.”
    Palin, however, stayed on the attack Sunday, defending her claim that Obama “pals around with terrorists.”
    “The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about,” Palin said as she boarded her plane in Long Beach, California. “I think it’s fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room.”
    Palin’s claim that Obama’s association with Ayers “hasn’t been talked about” is not true. Obama was questioned about Ayers during a prime-time Democratic debate against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton before April’s Pennsylvania primary. McCain also raised the Ayers issue during a television news interview that month. Obama’s association with Ayers was regularly brought up by commentators on some cable television news shows, by right-wing radio talk show hosts and on political Web sites.
    At issue is Obama’s association with Ayers. Both have served on the board of the same Chicago charity and live near each other in Chicago. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s, the event cited by Palin.
    But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they “pal around” is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it’s simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.
    McCain adviser Greg Strimple predicted “a very aggressive last 30 days” of the campaign in a recent conference call with reporters
    “We are looking forward to turning a page on this financial crisis and getting back to discussing Mr. Obama’s aggressively liberal record and how he will be too risky for Americans,” he said.

    From this extremely left leaning site:
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/06/america/NA-POL-US-Elections.php

  419. yeah, she was amazing. She tried to through up the Roe vs. Wade issue and both of us were way past the need for this law in our own personal lives. Those that want this fraud in, I believe should have to live without for a while, then maybe they will learn a lesson!

  420. Monday, October 06, 2008
    Keating Five Invalid Attack On McCain

    Obama Cultists are ratcheting up unwarranted attacks on John McCain and attempting to tie in his character and ethical behavior to The Keating Five. Well, here’s a little fact for those people. AZ Central:

    Keating Five Special Prosecutor (A Democrat. – Drake)] Robert Bennett, who would later represent President Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones case […] in his opening remarks went lightly on McCain, the lone Republican ensnared with four Democrats.

    “In the case of Senator McCain, there is very substantial evidence that he thought he had an understanding with Senator DeConcini’s office that certain matters would not be gone into at the meeting with (bank board) Chairman (Ed) Gray,” Bennett said.

    “Moreover, there is substantial evidence that, as a result of Senator McCain’s refusal to do certain things, he had a fallout with Mr. Keating.”

    In the end, McCain received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Still, he felt tarred by the affair. [He was tarred by the Dems. – Drake].

    McCain noted that Bennett, the independent counsel, recommended that McCain and [John] Glenn be dropped from the investigation.

    And Outside The Beltway:

    …Bennett, who was the special investigator during the Keating Five scandal that The Times revisited in the article, said thathe fully investigated McCain back then and suggested to the Senate Ethics Committee to not pursue charges against McCain because of “no evidence against him.”

    he said that he felt the Committee pursued charges against McCain because, without him, the case would have been entirely against Democrats.

    Again, we have this pesky little facts that the Dems seem to so intentionally dismiss when it comes to McCain and the Keating Five.

    mrssatan.blogspot.com/2008/10/keating-five-invalid-attack-on-mccain.html

  421. a little off-topic, but i have to share a funny story:

    I was having dinner with friends about 80% of them for BO, and it wasn’t long after the RNC Convention speech with Palin/Giuliani making fun of “community organizers” when I told the table that I could be considered a “community organizer” of sorts – and I said, re: BO and Palin qualifications, that even though I’m a community organizer, I definitely don’t believe I could be a Governor of a state.

    And one Obama supporter turned to me and said “You could definitely be a Governor.” …these people are completely deluded…I’m surprised she didn’t say, and you could be President too because it’s so easy that every community organizer can do it!

  422. yep i thought it was that horro show andy martin on hannity. hannity u make me sick. andy martin is a virulent anti-semite. he has called for the jes to have been finished off in the holocaust. he ha smade many other bigoted remarks about jews, blacks and others. martin also has been indicted on felonies. as a frmr holocaust educator the name kept rining a bell. and i will be damned if that destructive hater was on hannity.—
    A February 10, 2006, Chicago Tribune article noted that Martin also ran for a Senate seat in Florida in 2004.

    According to the Tribune article, during bankruptcy proceedings, Martin “referred to a federal bankruptcy judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew, who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race,” and, separately, stated: “I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did, when Jew survivors are operating as a wolf pack to steal my property.” The Tribune also reported that “Federal Bureau of Prisons records show Martin has spent several stints in several federal prisons on issues related to contempt of court.”
    http:/ /mediamatters.org/items/200703020006

  423. texas….

    i’ve been googling tonight it’s been a blast to read the comments and articles of the bots tonight
    they are on full tilt!! LMAO!!!

    McCain/Keating 5 has over 4k links alone………99% of them are leftist attack articles and blog posts and comments

    I guess BhusseinO released a 13 min video documentary (monday) I guess he knew he’d need it at some point huh LMAO!!!

    i GUESS HE KNEW THE SHIT WAS GOING TO HIT THE FAN 😀

    GO JOHNNY GO!!!

  424. COMMENT TONIGHT ON NQ……………I sure hope this is true!!! 😀

    Comment by HARP | 2008-10-06 00:11:19

    Found this on Hannity site. Doubt that is right but it would be nice.

    I read on greta’s board, a woman from Colorado who said that she received an email today from her friend who works for the McCain campaign and that they have audiotapes and photos of Obama with William Ayers talking about how Communism is the real “change” America needs and that Americans are stupid people, she said that it will be released right after the debate, I hope she is telling the truth, it did seem pretty legit, she said it is very very damning to the Obama campaign…..”

  425. thank all of u for these many months of support throught this process. as of tongiht i will not be posting here throughout the rest of the month. thank all of u .

  426. from NQ

    Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-10-06 00:54:54

    Obama supporters are quick to say “This is no worse than John McCain’s involvement with Lincoln Savings, John Keating, and McCain’s role in the “Keating Five”. The difference is, no one from Lincoln Savings, including John Keating ever served on John McCain’s election campaigns. And, John McCain donated all campaign contributions from Keating, his relatives, and his employees to the US Treasury.

    John McCain only requested that Federal Banking Regulators give Keating and Lincoln Savings a fair hearing, and make sure they were treated with due process by the regulatory agency. McCain specifically told regulators “I wouldn’t want any special favors for Keating or Lincoln Savings” and “I don’t want any part of our conversation to be improper”.

    The Senate Ethics Committee probe of the Keating Five began in November 1990, and committee Special Counsel Robert Bennett, a Democrat, recommended that McCain and Ohio Senator John Glenn be dropped from the investigation.

    In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee exonerated McCain and Glenn, saying “McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing to influence the regulators” and declared his actions were not “improper nor attended with gross negligence.”. McCain contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating and associates) to the U.S. Treasury. http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/

  427. CountTheVotes, that is disgusting, but not surprising. BO supporters live in DELUSION. They have no clue.

  428. So TaylorMarsh is having a conniption, saying that Palin is lying and swiftboating and a racist for talking about Ayers. I just posted on her blog for the first time in months:

    So, Taylor, were you lying and swiftboating and a racist when you said this?
    ——————————————–
    Or in the words of barrister Sir Wilfred (Charles Lawton) in Anatomy of A Murder: “So tell me Frau Helm (Taylor): were you lying then, are you lying now, or are you not in fact a chronic and habitual LIAR!!!???

  429. Lord God it must be late: its my favorite movie and I cannot even remember the name of it. Witness For The Prosecution.

  430. texan–I hope everything is okay. Your comments have been brilliant and much appreciated. I assume you have your reasons and will eludicate as you see fit. Can we expect to see you back here prior to the election?

  431. dija: I had the same question you did as to why our friend texan was leaving. I posted something right after you did. Then I saw his posting at 2:39 and I guess the answer is there. I did not see Hannity tonight nor do I know who Andy Martin is. I hope Texan understands we are friends here and would love to have him back, but of course it is his decision.

  432. im still here for the moment-i jut have lots going on tese few weeks ahead and wont bearound to comment much that is all. dont worry i will check in-just not like i have been doing so many times a day.

  433. Dija: I see that the source of the discover the left analysis you posted is david horowitz. He is a very interesting guy.

    His parents were school teachers in New York and card carrying communists. He was a prominent student radical in the 1960s. Later he became a conservative–right wing advocate.

    David has written a number of books and his scholarship is quite good. As I recall his mentor was a California politican named Berman who was brilliant and made the same kind of transition from left to right on the political spectrum.

    In recent years, he has focused on radical left wing activities on campus and brings great insight to that issue. He has a real talent for connecting the dots and is expert witness. He is a friend of Mike Reagan, Tammy Bruce and that crowd.

    I am not surprised to see that he is doing research on Obama. I know him. You can take his analysis as accurate.

  434. So the financial crisis in Europe is spreading because of their intergrated economies. In other words, the massive bail-out bill did not do it–but at least big media managed to pick the pockets of beleaguered taxpayers to the tune of 450 billion-like the Tolemic view that the universe revolves strictly around them. So lets do another bailout in January and give big media twice that amount–cant have them go under not after the fine job they do.

    The bottom line is the economic problems are not going away, therefore he needs to present a clear cogent and convincing case that the mortgage crisis belongs to barack as stated above. Think mortgage default think Obambi.

  435. The europeans are bonkers, they are destroying the economy in one go by covering all deposits in all banks.

    They threw the market out the window. It basically says, banks can do what they like because Govt will protect deposits.

    Socalism and comunnism has arrived.

  436. Obama asked for earmark on the quiet, lying outright.

    washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/06/obama-sought-hud-grant-for-donors-project/

    Sen. Barack Obama, who vows to change Washington by trimming wasteful spending and disclosing special-interest requests, wrote the Bush administration last year to seek a multimillion-dollar federal grant for a Chicago housing project that is behind schedule and whose development team includes a longtime political supporter.

    Mr. Obama’s letter, however, was never disclosed publicly. In fact, the letter was ghostwritten for him by a consultant for the Chicago Housing Authority, which wanted the money – a practice ethics watchdogs have frequently criticized.

    The housing project through July had completed fewer than one-sixth of the 439 public housing units it had planned, court records show.

    The Bush administration obliged Mr. Obama’s request, awarding a $20 million competitive grant last month from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). It called the project a “shining example” of urban revitalization. The Washington Times learned of the letter from Republican operatives.

    As Mr. Obama campaigns for president as an agent of change who promises to clean up Washington’s money game, his role in the Stateway project raises questions about the appearance of a conflict of interest and whether he has been participating in the very system he criticizes, watchdogs say.

  437. I’m beginning to notice a pattern here with Obama.

    1 : Obama supports and gets Rezko contract to get money for building low cost tenant blocks, badly finished and cost cut, tenants frozen and angry.

    2 : Obama gets grant for campaign contributor to build local garden park amenities, its never finished and money is gone.

    3 : Obama gets huge money in earmark from Bush Admin for house building in Chicago, yet is only 1/6th done and practically abandoned.

    Obama gets money or contracts for his friends but the work is never finished or is incomplete or useless.

    I’m sure theres more.

  438. Morning, moon.
    That hannity show was eye-opening.
    Is it true BO used ACORN staff to intimidate banks by going to their homes and bursting into offices?
    I had no idea although I’m not surprised.

    Here’s another little problem for BO.
    Ex-officials misled by pro-obama video
    A video released by the Jewish Council for Education & Research which appeared to show several retired senior IDF and Mossad officials supporting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has proven to be misleading, with a number of officials who appeared in the video saying on Monday that their words were taken out of context.
    “It’s not only misleading, it was an interview about what the next president was going to have to deal with,” former deputy chief of staff Maj.-Gen. (res.) Uzi Dayan told The Jerusalem Post. “And to know that they used this interview and took five seconds, and put me in a list of people praising Barack Obama…
    “It wasn’t about the campaign, it was about the political and security issues of the Middle East that the next president should be involved in,” he continued. “Nothing was said about Obama or [Republican presidential candidate John] McCain.”
    “I don’t want other people to interfere in my elections, and I must not interfere with the elections in the United States,” he said, adding that to do so would be neither “ethical nor smart.”
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017470356&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  439. Michelle Obama’s Law Firm Boss: She Was An Insufferable Complainer

    patriotroom.com/?p=2812

    No kidding? The Disgruntled One was also a whiny pain in the ass at her first law job?

    Being Barney The Purple Dinosaur’s lawyer might do it to you.

    The group went out of its way to give Michelle work suited to her interests. When an opportunity came in to handle the budding public television career of Barney, the purple dinosaur poised to become a phenomenon among American children, Goldstein says he and others felt it had Michelle’s name written all over it.

    “Michelle had some smattering of public interest” experience, says Goldstein, who is now at the firm of Freeborn & Peters in Chicago, “and so we said, ‘That’s it: Public television, you’re in on it.’ ”

    The firm’s task was to manage the trademark protection and distribution of Barney plush toys and other merchandise, Goldstein says, and to negotiate with public television stations that wanted to broadcast the show.

    You will be shocked to know that the same endearing personality traits we have grown to love were also on full display at Sidley & Austin.

    Quincy White, the partner who helped recruit Michelle and who headed the marketing group, remembers finding her a challenge to manage. White, who is now retired from the firm, says he gave her the most interesting work he could find, in part because he wanted to see her advance, but also because she seemed perennially dissatisfied.

  440. Obama to Face New Opposition in Michigan!

    http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/savemichigan.html

    The Our Country Deserves Better Committee (website: http://www.OurCountryDeservesBetter.com), a registered federal political action committee, is launching a $500,000+ effort against Obama’s Michigan campaign. The effort will combine a statewide television advertising campaign with a “Stop Obama” tour across the Upper and Lower Peninsulas that will include pro-McCain/Palin and anti-Obama/Biden rallies in 8 Michigan cities including: Detroit, Lansing, Grand Rapids, Traverse City, Alpena, Sault Ste. Marie, Marquette and Iron Mountain.

    The Our Country Deserves Better PAC is launching efforts against the Obama/Biden campaign in support of the McCain/Palin campaign in several key swing states including: Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Missouri, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

  441. I LOVE Palin she used Obama’s own propaganda paper to bring the fight to him….no matter what the NYTimes say, they opened the door first and it will look like they “bowed” to pressure from the Obama camp to write him in a better light if they start spinning it positively now.

    Remember, most people only read the Headlines and the first 2 paragraphs.

    Go Sarah, Go McCain.

  442. Palin talking about the Couric interview
    ‘I was just trying to keep Tina Fey in business.
    Job security for SNl characters!’

    ROTF!
    Listening to Palin in Fl. She is on FIRE!!!!! Talking about the ‘radical left’ agenda – BO raising taxes 94 times

    talking about reading NYT – about BO’s friends from Chicago – now she’s on Ayers wanting to bomb the pentagon and the state capital – BO’s remarks about not being friendly with ayers are less than truthful . . .

    check it out on fox.

  443. HAHA Palin going after Rev Wright now

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/06/opinion/06kristol.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

    NY TIMES

    I pointed out that Obama surely had a closer connection to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than to Ayers — and so, I asked, if Ayers is a legitimate issue, what about Reverend Wright?

    She didn’t hesitate: “To tell you the truth, Bill, I don’t know why that association isn’t discussed more, because those were appalling things that that pastor had said about our great country, and to have sat in the pews for 20 years and listened to that — with, I don’t know, a sense of condoning it, I guess, because he didn’t get up and leave — to me, that does say something about character. But, you know, I guess that would be a John McCain call on whether he wants to bring that up.”

    I guess so. And I guess we’ll soon know McCain’s call on whether he wants to bring Wright up — perhaps at his debate with Obama Tuesday night.

  444. BO wants to work with a former domestic terrorist who was targeting our country . .

    D@mn – she ain’t holding nothing back – chants of USA USA – America is an exceptional nation –

    ya know, i was never a fan of over-the-top patriotism but after moinths of chants of O-Bla-ma I’m d@mned glad to hear USA chants.

    Check Fox.

  445. Juan Williams has an interesting perspective on the Palin rally saying invoking Ayers is a way to highlight BO’s radical left-wing Agenda.

    Juan says Palin is masterful.

  446. Good Morning All

    Looks like October has started, and the political stratigists are going full force.

    What I like about Palin is she understand the VP role and is now going after it. She has been in on a fight before, and she wants to win this. However, for her it is not a question of winning it to win. It is a question of being there for her country.

    She has people in her past who are willing to stand up for her. O does not seem to have a past or people in it.

    I think we knew MO was a whinner. That is why she was drawn to that church. Ayers is one also. These are people that don’t believe in the political process of our Democracy. They are radical, and we are on the verge of letting one get elected.

  447. Well some good news on this mortgage disaster…

    Bank of America , who took over countrywide’s-(ex CEOP mozilla’s Chris Dodd/Kent Conrad Senate assos)
    bad, sub prime loans will renegotiate those loans with affected homeowners in 11 states…

    That is outside of this bail out program….not funded by tax lawyers..

  448. TRIVIA ANSWER:

    October 5th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    # basil9 Says:
    October 5th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    ya gotta lurve Sarah!

    “……the heels are on, the gloves come off”
    $$$$$$$$$

    Trivia time. Who first used the word “lurve”?

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    . In Woody Allen’s Annie Hall:
    “Love is too weak a word for what I feel — I lurve you, you know, I loave you, I loff you, two F’s, yes I have to invent, of course I — I do, don’t you think I do?”

    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Since we do not have a winner, the grand prize will be split among everyone! Front row seats to watch Obama’s face on Election Eve when the election is called for John McCain.

  449. HillaryforTexas Says:

    October 6th, 2008 at 12:37 am
    So TaylorMarsh is having a conniption, saying that Palin is lying and swiftboating and a racist for talking about Ayers. I just posted on her blog for the first time in months:

    its been very sad to see taylor spinning as hard as she can for obama.

    the old taylor will hopefully come back when the election is over.

    I cant stand to read her support for obama so also rarely visit there anymore.

    the core posters during hillarys run were amazing. taylor should have done anything to keep them there.

    the new bots there are not very nice.

  450. Is it his heavy involvement with these radicals that he now wants to claim he hardly knew?

    What exactly is it he doesn’t want the american Public to know?

    We already Know Billy Bomber Blew stuff up, what could possibly be worse than that?
    ====
    Stanley Kurtz (who i think you all know is doing alot of research regarding the annenburg challenge that someone, he thinks its Bill Ayers, is trying to block) thinks its really the squandered money that is the main issue they want to hide, not so much the relationship. They think that they squandered millions and have nothing to show for it might do more damage to Obama than a relationship with Bill Ayers. I read this in one of Stanley Kurtz’s articles on National review.

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