This should have been a year for huge Democratic Party victories. But instead of huge solid victories in national, state, and local elections Democrats are suffering because albatross Obama is at the top of the Democratic ticket.
Democrats are not basking in solid victories but instead suffering an election which swings back and forth single digit by single digit. For Democrats this huge election year is as solid as a hanging chad.
An historic economic crisis whose immediate price tag is a trillion dollars, a hated president in the White House, multiple wars, empowered dictatorships abroad, natural disasters testing government efficiency and budgets, barely help to move the American voter to the Democratic Party.
What happened?
The Democratic Party leadership decided to ignore the Democratic grassroots to select Barack Obama. Ignoring the party base is never a good idea. The Democratic Party leadership first tried to get Hillary Clinton out of the race immediately after the first vote in Iowa. As some facts emerged about Obama and Hillary Clinton won the big Democratic states the Democratic Party leadership instead of pausing in its selection of Obama decided instead to game the system for Obama, including the awarding of Michigan delegates even though Obama was not even on that ballot.
As the primary season developed it became clear that for the Democratic Party leadership this year was about seizing control of the party for the eggheads and not so much about actually winning the election.
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What should Hillary Clinton primary voters and supporters do? What should Hillary Clinton do?
We must remember that Hillary Clinton supporters can only control our own actions. We cannot control Hillary Clinton’s actions. We can make recommendations and make our positions clear but Hillary Clinton will do what Hillary Clinton feels and thinks is right for her.
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Below is what we think needs to happen, what we suggest Hillary Clinton do, and what we need to get done.
I. Only help Hillary Clinton Democrats in the 2008 elections.
II. Post election, Hillary Clinton should create a grassroots organization.
III. Hillary Clinton should NOT run for Senate Majority Leader.
IV. Fight to elect a new Democratic Party chairperson that represents the Democratic grassroots not the eggheads and kooks.
V. Elect new leadership at all levels in the Senate, House and DNC.
VI. Keep pro-Hillary grassroots organizations and websites intact.
VII. Create new replacement organizations.
VIII. Be prepared for a protracted struggle.
We believe Barack Obama will lose the NOvember election. There will be more Democrats elected to the Senate and House of Representatives this NOvember but not nearly as many as we would have gained if Hillary Clinton was the Democratic Party nominee. A great many Party leaders will be in shock. Many party leaders will not believe that it was possible to lose this election.
A big question will be what lessons the eggheads, DailyKooks and Democratic Party leaders take from the November 4, 2008 loss. Will the nutroots retreat and acknowledge they authored the civil war within the Democratic Party as well as the NOvember defeat?
Will the nutroots do what George McGovern did when he acknowledged his role in a massive electoral defeat and work to reform the process? Or will the nutroots and Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi resist and persist in their infamy?
On November 5, 2008 we doubt that the DailyKooks, the eggheads, and the Brazile’s will learn the right lesson. The right lesson is that the FDR coalition is a winning coalition and the Obama Situation Comedy coalition is a loser. The Kooks and eggheads will probably blame Hillary, Bill, racisim, anything, for the loss. These people will not let go of their stranglehold on the Democratic Party due to their own self-interest.
I. Only help Hillary Clinton Democrats in the 2008 elections. Hillary supporters should only help elect Democrats who supported Hillary during the primaries (before June 3, 2008). Those elected, or want to be elected, Democrats who supported Obama should not be helped in any way.
II. Post election, Hillary Clinton should create a grassroots organization. This grassroots organization should employ strong Hillary supporters, not the faint of heart. The proposed grassroots organization should look at the best activism models of Howard Dean’s DFA (Dean For America, which morphed into Democracy For America) and Dennis Kucinich’s PDA (Progressive Democrats of America). This organization should not appease in any way the nutroots. Working with, and defending Move-On, DailyKooks, and other nutroot websites only got Hillary Clinton backstabbed.
We note that recently Hillary Clinton created, via HillPac, a grassroots program called Hillary Sent Me. This program should, under competent and strong leadership, be reconstituted after the election into the grassroots organization we propose.
The Hillary Sent Me program is designed to get out the vote for Democrats this election season. Hillary Sent Me will be inaugurated on September 27 in New Hampshire.There are some things we do like (NOT the potential help to B.O. component) about the Hillary Sent Me program.
What we like about Hillary Sent Me is that Obama can be ignored and instead Hillary supporters can invest their time and money in helping other Hillary supporters. In the Meet Our Candidates page the featured candidates are Ed Towns, Dina Titus, and Chris Carney. All three of these candidates endorsed Hillary during the primaries.
Hillary supporters helping Hillary supporters, Rep. Ed Towns just won a tough primary, fueled in part by his decision to back Senator Clinton over Senator Obama in the Presidential campaign.
Dina Titus, also supported Hillary during the primaries, The Gleaner reports that the 2006 Democratic gubernatorial nominee and State Senator from Las Vegas Dina Titus today endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.
Chris Carney also supported Hillary during the primaries. U.S. Rep. Chris Carney ended months of mulling it over and announced Thursday he’s backing New York Sen. Hillary Clinton for president.
III. Hillary Clinton should NOT run for Senate Majority Leader. The Democrats in the Senate do not deserve Hillary or any assistance Hillary might provide to them. Hillary should lead by example not as part of a backstabbing Senate Democrats bureaucracy. Hillary Clinton is now more powerful than ever and does not need the Senate Democrats. The contrary is true, the Senate Democrats need her.
While we understand that there are some grassroots activists calling for Hillary to be elected as Senate Majority Leader we suggest they reconsider this proposal. Hillary will be the de facto Senate leader after NOvember.
In the formal role of Senate Majority Leader Hillary would only tie herself to, be forced to help, and be forced to listen to those Senators (Kerry, Kennedy, Dodd, Obama) who backstabbed her.
Further, if the Democratic Party does not listen to reason and remains under the control of the nutroots and the Braziles of the Party, it will take another election loss in 2010 to bring the Democratic Party to its senses. Hillary Clinton as majority leader would be in the ridiculous position of helping Barack Obama get reelected!
If the Democrats do not learn their lesson in NOvember 2004, they will need to lose again in 2010. Hillary Clinton as Majority Leader would only place herself in position to be blamed for further Democratic losses in 2010.
In 2010 Hillary can help those that helped Hillary and to blazes with the rest. Christopher Dodd, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, Barbara Boxer of California, Ken Salazar of Colorado, Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, Barack Obama of Illinois, Evan Bayh of Indiana, Barbara Mikulski of Maryland, Harry Reid of Nevada, Chuck Schumer of New York, Byron Dorgan North Dakota, Ron Wyden of Oregon, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Patty Murray of Washington, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, – let Hillary Clinton decide whom to help and whom to let sink. Hillary should not tie herself bureaucratically to all Senate Democrats.
IV. Fight to elect a new Democratic Party chairperson that represents the Democratic grassroots not the eggheads and kooks. Immediately after the election we all need to fight to get rid of Howard Dean and the Braziles (and their influence) as well as the Obama incense burners in the Democratic National Committee. Once Obama loses we need to make the case that the Democratic Party must return to the FDR winning coalition. The bigger the Obama loss the easier reorganization of the Democratic Party can be done (it might require a further loss in 2010 for some at the DNC to wise up).
However there are many Democratic State Party chairs who will want the money flowing to their states from DNC coffers to continue. This money program is one way Howard Dean secured his position at the DNC. If these party chairs do not acknowledge the disaster which is the Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi “leadership” a further defeat in 2010 might be necessary.
V. Elect new leadership at all levels in the Senate, House and DNC. We must elect new leadership at all levels in the Senate, House and DNC. Again, this job will be easier depending on the size of the Democratic defeat in NOvember. Clearly Nancy Pelosi must resign as must Jim Clyburn. A Democratic Congress which passes FISA, something the Republican Congress did not do, does not deserve to exist. We need new strong leadership in both houses of Congress and the DNC. Let Hillary Clinton allies take leadership positions in the House, Senate, and DNC.
VI. Keep pro-Hillary grassroots organizations and websites intact. Many pro-Hillary grassroots organizations and websites have become experts on where the great party of FDR has gone wrong. This leadership is a new, necessary fresh infusion of blood which must be respected. Old line Washington hands who supported Hillary are important but the pro-Hillary grassroots deserve a great deal of credit and respect too.
VII. Create new replacement organizations. We heartily applauded when the new organization WomenCount defended Governor Palin against sexist attacks. WomenCount passed an important test when it stood by principle. We need to create more of these organizations to replace the tired “mainline” organizations (particularly “women’s organizations). The new organizations should also retain their fighting spirit and not fall into the moribund states older organizations have sadly fallen into.
Organizations such as NARAL should either be completely destroyed or their “leadership”, which supported Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton, must be removed.
Hillary Clinton was instrumental in creating many organizations dedicated to protecting the constitution, watchdog Big Media, and advance core Democratic values. Over the years many of these organizations have lost their way and did not speak up when Hillary was under attack. These organizations too must either be replaced or reorganized and restocked with fighting Hillary Clinton Democrats.
VIII. Be prepared for a protracted struggle. Hillary Clinton will have to “triangulate” for the good of all Americans in order to get things done. Hillary will work with her allies in the Senate and the House and the Democratic Party as well as her good friend President McCain.
If the Dimocrats do not learn their lesson this NOvember, they will have to suffer another defeat in the midterm elections of 2010.
If the Dimocrats do not learn to respect the Democratic grassroots, including the white working class as well as Latinos and African-Americans, they will continue to lose. The Dimocratic “leadership” must learn they cannot select our Democratic Party nominee.
If the Dimocrats do not learn to respect the FDR coalition, the winning coalition, they will lose this NOvember and in the midterms of 2010. If the Dimocrats do not learn their lessons and release the stranglehold of the nutroots and eggheads they will continue to lose election after election.
We, and Hillary Clinton must lead a reform movement within the Democratic Party. It will be a protracted struggle which officially begins on November 5, 2008.
Amen, Admin, you are right on.
My guess it obama sent a signal to his bots in congress to do what durbin is was doing yesterday which is to say why rush while obama hides and allows the situation to get worse. Meanwhile the centrist democrats like Rendell et al see this fot the crisis it is. They are not partywreckera they are patriotic. So are many republicans and surely John McCain. The answer was to drag Obama from the shadows and into the spotlight and put the arm arould him to forget politics and do what is right for the country. When he is forced to do that or let things slide into oblivon his bots will have to follow and a deal will be forthcoming. Obama would sink the entire country to save his own ass and mccain will not let him do that. But if Obama becomes president god help us/
YES to everything except this one:
II. Post election, Hillary Clinton should create a grassroots organization.
I’m doing that one.
As I posted in the last thread…
Greta is reporting that a yahoo poll shows absolutely no movement of Hillary supporters over to Obama in the last few months. 42% still won’t support him.
I think major credit for this should go to Admin. Admin continues to post his/her/their amazing articles here to guide everyone to the finish line.
Admin is fighting the good fight!
Does anyone know what Rendell said?
If the bots are enagaged in random acts of self mutilation over palen we should do nothing to discourage them.
Admin: I agree with everything that you wrote. I don’t think, it is a good idea for Senator Clinton to be SML, for the reasons that you stated, and there are others.
I like the grassroots organization idea. It has to potential to be broadened.
Thank you for another great article and guidance. We are already doing some of those things, but we can do more, and will have to do even more, after the election.
I am just sorry that Bush put a stop to Obama’s shenanigans — I was hoping for more drama from the princess.
Make no mistake about this. We will be ready and successful in 2012. I was ignorant about the campaign this time, but I am not now.
That is called experience, and All of us on this blog will use it.
Wonderful! Perfect! INEVITABLE! Sums up everything we have been moving toward! I so agree about the Senate Maj Leader — this has been worrying me — to many people wanting to tie her down to this sinking ship — no good. Founder of the new old Dems has got to build her own crew. I’m nobody, but I’m on board with this 100% and I pray for loads fellow workers.
This gives me hope, admin. I have always even in your saddest posts found hope, a fighting spirit.
Thank you so much for being here and letting me be part of this great work.
I think major credit for this should go to Admin. Admin continues to post his/her/their amazing articles here to guide everyone to the finish line.
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ADMIN: YOU ARE A LEADER/ PROBABLY MARINE CORPS. SEMPER FI. YOU HAVE HELD IT ALL TOGETHER. YOU HAVE BEEN RIGHT ON OBAMA FROM THE BEGINNING AND YOU HAVE PUSHED THE TRUTH DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND KEPT THE REST OF US MOTIVATED.
Admin amen.
Are you Hillary or Bill?
I think the vp talks are officially dead. No way she can work for a guy like this. Even if the right undersandings were in place. He is a flake. Bills statement that it serves no useful purpose for a former president to be hyperventillating against McCain and Palen, plus McCains appearance at the Clinton Global Iniative convinces me of this. If there was any bloom on that rose it is long gone. Burton reminds me of Field Marshal Keitel/
admin said: While we understand that there are some grassroots activists calling for Hillary to be elected as Senate Majority Leader we suggest they reconsider this proposal. Hillary will be the de facto Senate leader after NOvember.
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Thanks, Admin, I’m very glad to hear this! My thought on SML was, that people talk about Reid (or whoever the Pelosi/Reid crowd pick for SML) punishing Hillary by “stripping her committe positions” or making sure her bills didn’t pass, etc. Wasn’t Clyburn threatening her with something like that?
My thought was that they couldn’t do that if she BECOMES SML — she would have that power and could strip them. (And sell tickets.)
So you think she will be safe from that kind of harrassment?
OBAMA=ALBATROSS
perfect description Admin!
Continuing….
Should the grassroots pushing for support for HRC for SML stop operations — or continue to collect support, which she can then trade off for something she wants more?
Admin…perfect!
and I whole hardily agree that Hillary should not be SML. She absolutrly does not need to be bogged down with those that backstabbed her.
I think McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign is brilliant. And by pulling his ads he’s doing more than just talking the talk.
Admin, let’s roll!
There aren’t any Dem pols that didn’t support Stinky – all Dims here in IL. I’ve already cut off support for former favorites with detailed explanations.
The VP switch won’t happen. McCain can milk that to high heaven and Obama will be toast the day it happens if it does. Sure it will confuse some voters. But for the majority it will be a profoundly weak act on Obama’s part.
Here is a blog talking about why she would not go to that Iran protest in NY. The person described here does not sound like she would be eager to provide cover for Princess O.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obama_hillary_and_palins_disin.html
Paula Says: I think McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign is brilliant. And by pulling his ads he’s doing more than just talking the talk
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I love it that McCain just DID that, unilaterally, without any negotiation blah blah or even telephone tag sfaik. “I’ve got work to do, I’m shutting down my activities so you can join the work if you want to.”
Pre-emptive unilateral cease-fire!
gretawire.foxnews.com/
Why do you think Sen. McCain is suggesting that the debate be postponed?
It is a political stunt 11% (3330 votes)
He is putting country first 89% (26010 votes)
Does anyone know what Rendell said today?
mj … Rendell said the obligatory things a faithful Democrat would be expected to say:
“What, does McCain think the Senate will still be working at 9 p.m. Friday?” Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania said in an interview, referring to the scheduled start time of the debate. “I think this is all political — I wish McCain had shown the same concern when he didn’t show up in the Senate to vote on the extension of the renewable energy tax credit.
nytimes.com/2008/09/25/us/politics/25mccain.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
“The governor also advised Barack Obama to call the party’s congressional leadership to see if a compromise is close. If it is, Rendell said, Obama might want to return.
“But if we’re not close, I see no reason to.”
http://www.politickerpa.com/tags/ed-rendell
g’night all … admin, love ya
wbboei Says: OBAMA=ALBATROSS
perfect description Admin!
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Hm. Somehow I doubt Obama will hang around as such…. He might sulk home to Illinois. Or he might start his own third party, so he could threaten the Dems to run as a spoiler in 2012 if they don’t nominate him again. That would be an Alinsky thing to do.
Great if he left the official Dem party to Hillary and to us!
Here is a blog talking about why she would not go to that Iran protest in NY. The person described here does not sound like she would be eager to provide cover for Princess O.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obama_hillary_and_palins_disin.html
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pm: interesting article. It is reasonable to assume that Hillary did not want to defend Obama’s position vis a vis Iraq is astute and correct. That may be the real reason she cancelled. But the futher suggestion that this was specifically intended to embarrass obama is delusional. How could she know he would not send someone else but instead strong arm the organizers into disinviting Obama? Also, the suggestion that Hillary is a European socialist is patently absurd. That is where the right gets into trouble when it says things stereotypical things like that/
disinviting palen/
I think Americanthinker blog is right leaning..so some of what they say has to be taken with a grain of salt (unfortunately we have to go to them to get some truth). But the sad situation is that Obama could not find another person of stature to make his case against Iran and that he strong armed them to disinvite Palin.
Turndownobama: I get the same vibes on sml. My initial thoughts were same as yours but I have come around. Clyburn is another Judas and needs to be gone. Reid–I honestly dont know about him. I took the positon he was okay based on the fact that his son ran Hillarys campaighn in Nevada and Reid supported her in continuing the primary despite the demands of the Kennedy cabal. But the way he behaved in the final chapter was problematic.
pm: it was a great posting and I know you were not vouching for the merits of the entire thing. I agree with your point which is that Hillarys reluctance to embrace Obama policies could be the reason she does not want to go on his ticket, as well as the reason she did not attend the rally.
On Brit Hume, they called today a tie, especially if a deal is reached tomorrow without McCain. Krauthhammer (?) gave McCain a plus for taking the gamble. I say it is much more than that. McCain by his move has insulated himself from getting blamed in the next 40 days about this deal. Now it is bi-partisan and both share credit and blame. And the fact that he made this dramatic move will also bode well in an area he was vulnerable to begin with. What he did also goes to show that he is not Bush and will not rubberstamp what Bush wanted. So in that and other respects, he has converted a negative to neutral or better yet, a positive.
pm: I agree with you. It was a positive for the very reasons you list. So far as the rest of it is concerned, the test is not what britt Hume thinks but what the Amercian people, and they know the difference between someone who runs toward the gunfire and someone who runs away from it. Bambi lost big time today/
wbboei Says: Turndownobama: I get the same vibes on sml. My initial thoughts were same as yours but I have come around. Clyburn is another Judas and needs to be gone.
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Same vibes as me or same vibes as Admin? I wish we could make Hillary safe from Clyburn by getting rid of him — but how? He’s a congressman, presumably his own district likes him.
I hope Admin is right, I wasn’t relishing the SML fight, and it might well be a lot of administrative bog down. I just hope Hillary will be safe without it….
I can’t stand Clyburn. I lived for many years in SC, and he is KNOWN there for lining his own and his friends and family’s pockets while ignoring his constituents. He serves one of the most brutally poor largely AA districts, and has done very little for them. He’s good at getting fat govt contracts for his cronies, though.
New Ayers video with Obama touting his accomplishments before running for senate, Ayers association et al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etj-P9js19c
Hi turndownobama: same vibes as your comment initially, but same vibes as admin now.
On a related note, I have this wonderful visual in mind where bambi runs up stairs, locks himself in his bedroom and hides under the bed.
Then outside you hear the sound of cowbow boots coming up the stairs–clunk clunk clunk. Then loud pounding at the door. No answer.
The door opens and in steps W with a 10 gallon hat, a King Ranch belt buckel a worn out pair of tony lamas, and a pair of ivory handled A-44s.
(Note: as in here lies Les Moore. Six shots from an A-44. No Les no more–Boot Hill).
W: you come out from under that bed now partner or else I’m gonna throw you in the hoosegow.
Bambi (in a high squeeky voice): on what charge. As a constitutional scholar, Harvard trained lawyer and law instuctor (I mean professor) I demand to know the charge . . . sir.
W: partner I got the six guns heyah, and I dont need a reason. But since ya asked I’m a gonna tell ya. How bout dereliction of duty for starters. How bout dessertion. How bout cowardice under fire. How bout taking money under false pretenses. How bout extortion of supers. How bout cheating in the causcuses. How bout mismanagement of the Annenburt challenge. How bout posting a phony birth certificate. How bout
Bambi: I cant come out. I am too scared. They want me to attend this meeting. I dont want to go and that meanie John McCain laughs at me and tries to trick me and doesnt think I should be president because I am not qualified. Since when does qualification have anything to do with it.
W: partner youre asking the wrong cowboy. Now come on son be reasonable. I will protect you. I wont let anybody hurt you prescious little bambi. (Bush to the director: How come I gotta read these stupid lines?)
Bambi (now in tears): I want to debate. I want to second guess. I want to delegate. But the last thing I want to do is decide anything. Why cant they just leave me alone with my waffle???????
W: partner I am an honorary Texas Ranger as in one riot one ranger. I am also presidnent of thes heyah United States. Now if you dont come out from under that bed now I am gonna have to take you into custody and transport you to Washington DC. So whats it gonna be?
Bambi: dont I get one phone call? As a trained Harvard lawyer I know I am entitled to that. Out comes the cellphone. Collect call to Cook County jail. Hello. May I speak to inmate Rezko. Hello? Uncle Tony. We have got a problem and I need some money muy pronto si se puede if ya know what I mean.
(fade to black)
My comment at the Couric interview at
/www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml
This is really too bad! Couric introduced the term ”Great Depression”. Palin disagreed with it. Then Couric told McCain that Palin had used the word and criticized her for it!
This is unfair to the candidates and dangerous to the country! If Couric thinks (rightly!) that it’’s not the kind of language that should be used — she should not have introduced it herself!
Quoting:
Again, you said to McCain: Couric: “ And using rhetoric like the “Great Depression,” is that the kind of language Americans need to hear right now?
I can’t stand Clyburn. I lived for many years in SC, and he is KNOWN there for lining his own and his friends and family’s pockets while ignoring his constituents. He serves one of the most brutally poor largely AA districts, and has done very little for them. He’s good at getting fat govt contracts for his cronies, though.
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H4T: compare Clyburn as you have accurately described him to Hillary at the Convention, as described by Anarchel:
There was no ire, no resentment, not even the whisper of hurt. Politics is rough, but failure to fulfill your political duty (to the veteran, to the cancer patient, to the impoverished mother), is unforgiveable. Not hope. Not change. Duty. Her personal grace and decency were rivaled only by her political integrity and loyalty. She has transcended the brutality and cruelty visited upon her in this primary. She walked off that stage the most powerful person in the Democratic Party, owing nothing to any of the power brokers because she has given it all to the Party. Hillary offered the arguments for why the success of the party was paramount, and in doing so ripped away the prevarications thrown out for why unity with her wasn’t possible/
The sacred vs. the profane/
This is really too bad! Couric introduced the term ”Great Depression”. Palin disagreed with it. Then Couric told McCain that Palin had used the word and criticized her for it!
This is unfair to the candidates and dangerous to the country! If Couric thinks (rightly!) that it’’s not the kind of language that should be used — she should not have introduced it herself!
Quoting:
Again, you said to McCain: Couric: “ And using rhetoric like the “Great Depression,” is that the kind of language Americans need to hear right now?
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Turndownobama: couric = airhead
Why do you think Sen. McCain is suggesting that the debate be postponed?
It is a political stunt 11% (3330 votes)
He is putting country first 89% (26010 votes)
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Illinois: it is encouraging to see that most people understand the priorities despite burtons attempts at spin. Also, it shows ordinary people understand the situation better than punidits.
h t t p : / / newscred.com/article/show/title/couric-scolds-palin-for-great-depression-scare-which-couric-raised-48dae35c6b182
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An excellent article
Couric Scolds Palin for ‘Great Depression’ Scare — Which Couric Raised
Couric [scolded] Palin to McCain: “But isn’t so much of this, Senator McCain, about consumer confidence and using rhetoric like the ‘Great Depression,’ is that the kind of language Americans need to hear right now?”
Quite a bit of chutzpah for Couric, chutzpah CBS didn’t even hide from viewers since in the subsequent excerpts from the Palin interview which viewers saw it was Couric herself who raised the ominous phrase.
Palin had not used the term when Couric asked Palin: “If this doesn’t pass, do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?” Palin’s reaction, in full: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it’s been proposed, has to pass or we’re going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action taken, bipartisan effort, Congress not pointing fingers at this point at one another, but finding the solution to this, taking action, and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed.
Turndown: do you think couric even realizes that she herself introduced the word great depression into the interview? There have been many thousands of media inaccuracies in this election and 99% of them seem to favor Obama.
wbboei Says: Turndown: do you think couric even realizes that she herself introduced the word great depression into the interview? There have been many thousands of media inaccuracies in this election and 99% of them seem to favor Obama.
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Hm, good point. Perhaps there was something before the excerpt they printed, where Palin might have introduced the term herself?
wbboei Says: Turndown: do you think couric even realizes that she herself introduced the word great depression into the interview? There have been many thousands of media inaccuracies in this election and 99% of them seem to favor Obama.
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Hm, good point. Perhaps there was something before the excerpt they printed, where Palin might have introduced the term herself? Very fair minded of you. On a quick look at
h t t p : / / http://www.google.com/search?q=Couric+McCain+Palin+depression+language&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
no headlines have mentioned such,and I”m too tired to look further.
Good night all.
Several people have noted that FOX seems to treat Obama very differently than they have in the past, which is to say they have been unwilling to vet him or say critical things, and have been pretty tough against mccain by comparison. The Hemme piece which was supposed to be investigative journalism was more like a pro Obama puff piece. O’Reilly’s interviews have pulled his puches. Hume’s pretending John’s decision to suspend and thus put country first wa a tie when 89%of the public read it as patriotic. And the list of coincidences goes on. A month ago Rupert Murdock predicted bambi would win that makes me wonder wherther this is failurt to engage is orchetrated in some way/
Thought I would share my feelings about why as a Hillary Supporter – I now feel (good) about supporting John McCain. I’ve been working on cognitive dissonance and how to deal with my feelings about the election and my support for John McCain.. At least I feel better after venting. Thank you for the board. I mainly lurk, but feel I am around like minded people.
http://peppermintgirl4145.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/25/1909549-cognitive-dissonance-and-moral-indignation-an-analysis-of-an-ex-hillary-voters-support-for-john-mccain-?mode=edit
wbboei
Yes, I just saw O’Reilly’s interview with some author abot Obama’s ‘community organizing’. It was all complimentary, said he got money for his neighborhood from various sources. Nothing about wastign the money … and nothing at all about the Alinsky method, “rub raw the sores of discontent” etc. If I knew O’Reilly’s email I’d send him thr url of my clintondems diary of leads and cites on Obama’s ‘community organizing.’
Here are my thoughts. And yes wbboei, I think Fox is being extremely easy on Obama. Brit Hume likes McCain as does Hannity and Greta – and Carl Cameron. Shepherd Smith, O’Reilly etc. seem to like Obama. If you read my article – I’m going to do with Fox what I am doing to deal with the rest of the election. It will all be over in a few weeks.
http://peppermintgirl4145.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/25/1909549-cognitive-dissonance-and-moral-indignation-an-analysis-of-an-ex-hillary-voters-support-for-john-mccain-?mode=edit
Here are my thoughts about the election thus far. At least it will be over in a few weeks. I only hope McCain wins. God help us all.
peppermintgirl4145.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/25/1909549-cognitive-dissonance-and-moral-indignation-an-analysis-of-an-ex-hillary-voters-support-for-john-mccain-?mode=edit
ve you seen Obama’s response to Berg’s petition? Looks like the judge may dismiss as Berg is not being injured. Who would have to file and under what grounds? Would Obama have to be elected and actually have to serve to cause injury?
http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/obama-dnc-file-motion-to-dismiss-in.html
Thanks Admin.
Another masterpiece.
What we need is a full hit list of Obama primary supporters (state,local,etc) we can focus on defeating.
Indeed. As Hillary might say,
I had to post this one too. This is frightening. Obama on Gold coins before the election is even over??? No wonder he’s not worried about the financial crisis – he’s minting his own???
http://www.unitedliberty.org/602/president-obama-gold-coins/
I see you can’t see my thoughts on the earlier post so:
http://www.peppermintgirl4145.newsvine.com
The Political Schedule
*all times Eastern
Thursday, September 25
8:45 am
John McCain delivers remarks to the Clinton Global Initiative in New York, New York. Palin also attends
Morning
Barack Obama delivers remarks to the Clinton Global Initiative via satellite
Twice in a few weeks McC has managed to change the whole theme of the campaign!!
One of the problems with a Senator running is that there all those bills with their thousands of pages that can be pored over and one line can be extracted and then comes the ad: “Senator X voted for or against serial killers or apple pie.”
This is hard to do for Obama because he doesn’t vote and can always say he pressed the wrong button!
That’s all gone as the topic is McC’s patriotism — again. As for the endless parade of O’s troops who doubted McC’s sincerity in their condescending way — it doesn’t look good. Attributing base motives is an ungracious thing to do. Sneering at patriotism, esp. for this anti-American Senator, is unwise. The unwillingness to put self and partisanship and personal interests aside — but then again, what’s new.
Get in there and knock heads, John! YOu come up with a politically palatable agreement, you won’t need to take credit — you’ll get it.
III. Hillary Clinton should NOT run for Senate Majority Leader.
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thanks admin. i was worried seeing so many hillary supporters pushing for SML. what a waste of talent tied to that boat anchor. again, i know i am in the minority here, but i still see HRC with a prime cabinet membership in a McCain administration. do you think that would hinder her activities in the democratic party too much?
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON Statement on the economy
She’s certainly taking more of a stance than Obama, gee are we surprised.
online.wsj.com/article/SB122230767702474045.html?mod=todays_us_opinion
There is a broad consensus that Congress must act to stave off deeper turmoil on Wall Street. Irrespective of the final agreement yet to be reached, there are several principles that must be part of a broader reform effort that begins this week and continues in the coming months.
This is not just a financial crisis; it’s an economic crisis. Therefore, the solutions we pursue cannot simply stabilize the markets. We must also deal with the interconnected economic challenges that set the stage for this crisis — and reverse the failed policies that allowed a potential crisis to become a real one.
First, we must address the skyrocketing rates of mortgage defaults and foreclosures that have buffeted the economy and ignited the credit crisis. Two million homeowners carry mortgages worth more than their homes. They hold $3 trillion in mortgage debt. Nearly three million adjustable-rate mortgages are scheduled for a rate increase in the next two years. Another wave of foreclosures looms.
I’ve proposed a new Home Owners’ Loan Corporation (HOLC), to launch a national effort to help homeowners refinance their mortgages. The original HOLC, launched in 1933, bought mortgages from failed banks and modified the terms so families could make affordable payments while keeping their homes. The original HOLC returned a profit to the Treasury and saved one million homes. We can save roughly three times that many today. We should also put in place a temporary moratorium on foreclosures and freeze rate hikes in adjustable-rate mortgages. We’ve got to stem the tide of failing mortgages and give the markets time to recover.
The time for ideological, partisan arguments against these actions is over. For years, the calls to provide borrowers an affordable opportunity to avoid foreclosure as a means of preventing wider turmoil were dismissed as government intrusion into the private marketplace. My proposals over the past two years were derided as too much, too soon. Now we are forced to reckon with too little, too late.
As a result, the home-mortgage crisis slowly eroded the value of debt instruments upon which Wall Street firms were depending. That is how this house of borrowed cards began to fall. If we do not take action to address the crisis facing borrowers, we’ll never solve the crisis facing lenders. These problems go hand in hand. And if we are going to take on the mortgage debt of storied Wall Street giants, we ought to extend the same help to struggling, middle-class families.
Second, American taxpayers should have a voice and a stake in the resolution of this market crisis. If the Treasury proposal is enacted in its current form, the American government would assume enough financial risk to become the majority shareholder in the companies rescued by taxpayer dollars.
The American people are bearing the risk and therefore deserve to reap the rewards of a shared equity model. And mortgage securities bought by taxpayers must be valued accurately at prices disclosed in real time, with checks and reporting requirements to prevent abuse.
Third, taxpayers are being asked to bear an unparalleled degree of financial risk. We cannot allow taxpayers to take on this burden so that Wall Street and the Bush administration can hit the “reset button.” This historic intervention demands a historic shift in priorities: an end to the broken culture on Wall Street, and the broken economic policies in Washington.
Corporations that will benefit must be held accountable, not only to large shareholders but also to the American people, who are rightly tired of business as usual: short-term profit at the expense of long-term viability; lax oversight and regulation; obscene bonuses and golden parachutes regardless of performance; reckless risk-taking that has placed the markets in jeopardy; rewards for foreclosing on middle-class families and selling mortgages designed to fail; and outsourcing good jobs to serve short-term stock prices instead of America’s long-term economic health.
This is a sink-or-swim moment for America. We cannot simply catch our breath. We’ve got to swim for the shores. We must address the conditions that set the stage for the turmoil unfolding on Wall Street, or we will find ourselves lurching from crisis to crisis. Just as Wall Street must once again look further than the quarterly report, our nation must as well.
alcina Says:
III. Hillary Clinton should NOT run for Senate Majority Leader.
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thanks admin. i was worried seeing so many hillary supporters pushing for SML. what a waste of talent tied to that boat anchor.
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Great. One less chore.
But — what about protection? She seems to be running scared of something. Bill doesn’t act scared. Is it a danger that affects only her? (Such as threats from Clyburn, Pelosi, etc to her success in the Senate.)
If SML isn’t needed to protect her from the danger — what is needed? What is the danger, if it’s not something SML could protect her from?
What’s up with CNN smirking like McCain has given up? They are also saying that Palin screwed up the interview. I do think Fox has been easy lately on Obama. So how do we read that?
They are saying she screwed up because she agreed with Couric that we could be headed for a depression if we don’t act. Seems much ado about nothing to me, but what do I know?
Whats new, they have in for McCain, no matter what he does but it will be like the primaries all over again, the harder they push McCain like they Hillary, the harder he’ll push back.
I think it’s good for McCain to try to focus on the financial crisis but this suspending his campaign thing is just political grandstanding. He can go to Washington to try to work something out without doing all the theatrics about not campaigning/running ads etc. He’s sending the wrong message that he can’t handle two things at once. It’s either he’s a candidate for president or he’s not. And if each time a crisis or a problem comes up is he going to stop the campaign again? So this doesn’t seem very smart politically. It won’t really hurt him long term but won’t help him either if that is what his team was thinking. Coming out against this insane $700 billion bailout would have been a more effective strategy.
Me thinks that Hillary wouldn’t have a chance even if she did want to become the next Senate Majority Leader.
Me thinks that if Obama loses (please God let it be) that Pelosi et al will be willing to give HIM any position he wants including Senate Majority Leader just so he doesn’t wither away in shame and can keep his pointy head up.
Does Couric et al really think that the average American isn’t scared silly by what is going on in the economy right now? Who cares who said the term “Great Depression?”
This is beyond silly and a tempest in a teapot. Couric is an idiot. She hasn’t done as well as hoped in her position and is trying to cash in.
Why on earth would any Hill supporter want hill to accept SML? That’s not the job of someone who uses the bully pulpit to fight for their signatures issues. It’s a largely administrative job.
With respect to The Great Depression remark: so the fuck what? Many people are implying it, they just don’t dare to call it what it is. Freaks people out. Well guess what? ALOT of people are already freaked out. We’re not stupid.
And in other news, Bill Heard Enterprises, the largest Chevy dealership shuts down it’s 17 dealerships. Why? Oh, they just felt like it I guess. No need to panic.
I don’t suppose anyone will suggest anywhere that McC saw the bailout slipping away into partisan bickering and thought that if the campaign paused, it might be easier to get both sides to bite the bullet.
Dems are saying that the deal is done because they are very afraid that McC will get credit.
Either CNN or Fox gave a history of this mess and it basically went: 2004 – the WSJ warned that Frddie and Fanny were cooking the books. 2005 – Alan Greenspan warned that F&F needed more oversight and McC warned them too. Upshot: the Dems blocked any real oversight and the media paid almost no attention.
I agree idunn. We’ve been hearing “the next great depression” for years. Now Katy says it, pushes it on Palin, and its a mistake? I don’t think anyone other than CNN is going to think that.
Have you seen this from Bill about McCain wanting to postpone the debates? I love Bill.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
I think this is Soros and his speculators friends have done this. I guess now America is ripe for a takeover, just what Soros wanted!
Nikki22
I think you are wrong. How can you handle a crisis, traveling around the country campaigning, You will not do a very good job. What do you do, wait for someone to call you to let you know what is going on?
You know how that works. Tell someone something and have them pass it on, nine times out of ten when it gets to the last person, it is completly different.
This is SERIOUS.
It is not that he can’t do two things at a time. , which he can. I think you have the wrong candidate. Did you not mean O?
McCain is putting Country First. not himself FIRST
Mccain is putting his country first, and dems are looking like they are playing politics!
Is anyone watching McCain’s speech on Fox? He’s talking about global warming now, but he was talking about the crisis, and i tell you, he really looks presidential. He stated 5 points that is wrong with the bill, what needs to be done, and why he is suspending his campaign. He did not throw a single dig at Obama, actually said he is joining him (without saying only because Bush asked him to), which silently makes Obama look really bad to me. There is a lot of articles floating around about how McCain is way ahead of Obama in support from independents, independent’s are going to McCain yet is behind Obama in the polls which doesn’t make sense and points at a large democrat sample in these polls. This is going to pave the way for them to say race when Obama loses.
At the end of the speech I think he just praised Bill Clinton, how cool is that. Of course this is Clinton’s initiative but still, too cool.
“The Wall Street Journal poll:
The survey finds that Sen. Obama has lost ground with the independent voters who will be crucial to the outcome of the election. They now favor Sen. McCain by 13 percentage points, up from eight points two weeks ago. In early September, just after both parties’ conventions, half of independent voters had a positive image of Sen. Obama; now it’s just 39%. Independents were also less likely to say they could identify with his background and values than they were in early September.
And nearly half of all voters — 45% — said they think that Sen. Obama would raise taxes on middle-income people, even though he has promised not to, a sign that Sen. McCain’s attacks on taxes are working.”
Lynchburg, VA (www.LifeNews.com) — For the new Barack Obama “faith tour” to have any success, it needs to be able to draw young and evangelical voters. Yet, at its first stop in the Virginia back yard of well-known pastor Jerry Falwell, just 15 people showed up for the event.
So now Obama is speaking on the crisis, lets make sure the administration gets it right, that’s about it. No real plan, very vague, lasted 1 minute, looks like a 3 year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Lynchburg, VA (www.LifeNews.com) — For the new Barack Obama “faith tour” to have any success, it needs to be able to draw young and evangelical voters. Yet, at its first stop in the Virginia back yard of well-known pastor Jerry Falwell, just 15 people showed up for the event.
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HaHaHa! That is just hilarious.
Like Fox had on the scroll bar this morning:
Obama Stumps – McCain Trumps
I am going to put that on the front of the tshirts I am designing and on the back I will put the psalm poem that ends with Obama is the tree and I have to PEE.
nObama surrogates are trying to spin……..and talking over McCain surrogates like Reagan this morning on Fox.
Loud speaker at high school: Principal Bush: Barrrrrrack nObama, please report to the Principal’s Office immediately!!!
roflmao
Wonderful article, Admin.
Anyone else hear this? (from NQ)
‘Joe Biden was in a “shout down” with David Axelrod yesterday, insisting that he was returning to Washington as a Senator to do what the people of Delaware elected him to do in a time of National Crisis.
Obama gets angry with Joe and Biden has to tell Axelrod, “it’s not about politics, it’s about leadership”!
Bill Clinton: Don’t ‘Overly Parse’ McCain Request to Delay Debate
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
I love Bill.
apparently, Biden said something to this effect:
“I can not continue and campaign as thought nothing is happening or that a solution is at hand, of which there is none.”
gonna look for the source.
Loud speaker at high school: Principal Bush: Barrrrrrack nObama, please report to the Principal’s Office immediately!!!
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LMAO! good one short termer, that’s exactly the impression I am getting too
Well look at that Biden looks more presidential than Obama. Maybe they should switch the ticket.
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nikki22 Says September 25th, 2008 at 8:13 am
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I so disagree with you on pretty much all counts of your post here.
Maybe these quotes on just what leadership looks like might help you clarify your misgivings in reference to our HERO and Leader and next CIC. Pick one or two and try to apply them to nObama and then McCain and see who shines:
Quotes on leadership topics from national and business leaders and writers, offering food for learning and reflection.
Quotes on Leadership and Vision
“If you do not know where you are going, every road will get you nowhere.” – Henry Kissinger
“You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing you think you cannot do.” Eleanor Roosevelt
“Don’t be afraid to take a big step when one is indicated. You can’t cross a chasm in two small steps.” David Lloyd George
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, concerned citizens can change world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead
For Further Exploration : Look at resources on developing vision, sharing vision, or writing mission and vision statements.
Quotes on Leadership Character
“Charisma becomes the undoing of leaders. It makes them inflexible, convinced of their own infallibility, unable to change.” – Peter F. Drucker
“A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity.” – Baltasar Gracian
“Leadership is a combination of strategy and character. If you must be without one, be without the strategy.” – Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf
“Example is not the main thing in influencing others, it is the only thing.” – Albert Schweitzer
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.
“I am certainly not one of those who need to be prodded. In fact, if anything, I am the prod.” – Sir Winston Churchill
“Be willing to make decisions. That’s the most important quality in a good leader.” – General George S. Patton Jr.
“Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other.” – John F. Kennedy
Coolest thing ever! I work at PLI (Practicing Law Institute) and across the street is the Sheraton, where the Clinton Global Initiative is being held and I was walking to work and lo and behold I see Terry M! I ran over, said hi, shook his hand, told him I was one of the interns on the campaign and he asked how my experience was and I said “One of the best of my life!” He said “Sorry we didn’t go all the way, but we gave it our best shot” And I said “maybe next time” And he said “Glad you enjoyed…Well, Let’s get these guys out of office” And I said “Definitely” (not as enthusiastically of course) And then we talked about the CGI and he goes “I stepped outside because Palin stepped in!” Haha…It was really cool to see him. I just wish Hillary was outside hanging out too! Haha.
Basil where did you get those quotes from on NQ?
If John McCain really wanted to take a lead role on this then just go to Washington and try to offer assistance on a better bill and not this $700billion giveaway that Bush and Paulson came up with. Then suggest the debate topic be changed to the economy because that is what voters are most concerned about at this time. But instead he did this whole gimmicky thing of “suspending” his campaign. No, BO’s response has not and will not be great but McCain hasn’t really made himself look any better in the last 10 days. FDR didn’t stop being the president whenever there was a crisis neither did Lincoln or any of our greatest leaders. Besides even if this terrible bill passes that still may not solve the problem. So will JM continue to not campaign?
Looking even worse for Obama now.
Paulson asked McCain to come to DC, McCain takes action, invites Obama, Obama blew him off.
blogsforjohnmccain.com/bob-schieffer-reports-mccain-return-washington-urgent-appeal-treasury-secretary-video-92508
Bob Schieffer reports that John McCain got personally involved in the bailout negotiations after Henry Paulson said it was necessary to bring Republicans aboard and save the plan from failure. Once again, McCain is demonstrating leadership at what could be his own personal expense.
Lin67,
Thanks for the write up about Mccain’s speech. I really think that while the dims, media, et al thought this economic crisis would help their candidate, once again Obama has damaged his credibility big time. He is the world’s biggest cry baby and idiot.
McCain is running circles around him. By announced the major points he finds wrong with this proposed bill, he has again checkmated Obama. Nothing Obama comes up with now will be original.
The thing McCain has outlined his opposition, and what needs to be done and Obama? Uhm, hum, uh, ah, whatever he said.
I just bill Clinton on ABC….
Trust him to get it right on McCain/BO moves…
“Well we all know McCain is not a afraid to debate because he wanted more debates so it must be sincere..putting country first”…. he said it twice…:)
nikki, McCain is doing exactly what you said. He is not going to push Bush’s bill, he is going to twist some arms and try to come up with a better bill with more protections in it.
Bill Clinton just cut off Obama’s legs, bwahhhhhahahahahaha
Ya gotta love Bill!
Saying McCain is acting in good faith and pointing out that McCain wanted town hall meetings with Obama for months so he is not running from a debate.
moon,
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/25/obama-irrelevant-they-want-mccain-to-help-fix-the-financial-meltdown/#comments
comments about biden start at 7:57:15
Obama blew him off because he knew his old friend Soros could call of the dogs as soon as McCain was so low in the polls that there was no chance of a resurrection. Obama has the inside on all this crap!
Go, Big Dawg!! Telling the TRUTH, my Bill is.
I’m laughing Bill Clinton just drove a truck over Obama with those comments, competely undermined Obama.
Well I believe Bidenn talked about the great depression and how FDR acted…so what is the effing deal on this palin/couric issue!!!
I am watching Obama on fox now at his Clinton Global Initiative speech, and he just compared it to the great depression too, so now Couric really looks foolish.
Here is the video of Bill Clinton and the article about McCain halting campaigning and wanting to postpone the debates.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
So Obama is talking about all the money he is going to spend when he is president, did he forget we are in a crisis???????? Where is he going to get all this money? What an idiot.
Lin67 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
I am watching Obama on fox now at his Clinton Global Initiative speech, and he just compared it to the great depression too, so now Couric really looks foolish.
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Unfortunately, Couric has an easy time of looking foolish.
Bill did not answer the question on something Pelosi knew in 1999….about some oversight that she knew should be done/was aware off…she may opposed it….anybody have any idea..
If that is all the ammunition Couric got from the interview, then it is pretty pitiful.
“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks”.
First of all, it’s “DOESN’T care too much”…and secondly, what kind of bullshit gibberish is this ?!
“Oh lord, those white folks with guns is liable to eat folks of color next!”
Dear nikki22 if you are FOR nObama, you are likely on the wrong blog. Good day.
ST, nikki is not for Obama, and has never in any way indicated she is – that’s an unfair swipe.
By Tony Blankley
The mainstream media have gone over the line and are now straight-out propagandists for the Obama campaign.
While they have been liberal and blinkered in their worldview for decades, in 2007-08, for the first time, the major media consciously are covering for one candidate for president and consciously are knifing the other. This is no longer journalism; it is simply propaganda. (The American left-wing version of the Völkischer Beobachter cannot be far behind.)
And as a result, we are less than seven weeks away from possibly electing a president who has not been thoroughly or even halfway honestly presented to the country by our watchdogs — the press. The image of Obama that the press has presented to the public is not a fair approximation of the real man. They consciously have ignored whole years of his life and have shown a lack of curiosity about such gaps, which bespeaks a lack of journalistic instinct.
Thus, the public image of Obama is of a “man who never was.”
I take that phrase from a 1956 movie about a real-life World War II British intelligence operation to trick the Germans into thinking the Allies were going to invade Greece rather than Sicily in 1943. Operation Mincemeat involved the acquisition of a human corpse dressed as “Major William Martin, R.M.,” which was put into the sea near Spain. Attached to the corpse was a briefcase containing fake letters suggesting that the Allied attack would be against Sardinia and Greece.
To make the operation credible, British intelligence concocted a fictional life for the corpse, creating a letter from a lover and tickets to a London theater — all the details of a life, but not the actual life of the dead young man whose corpse was being used. So, too, the man the media have presented to the nation as Obama is not the real man.
The mainstream media ruthlessly and endlessly repeat any McCain gaffes while ignoring Obama gaffes. You have to go to weird little Web sites to see all the stammering and stuttering that Obama needs before getting out a sentence fragment or two. But all you see on the networks is an eventually clear sentence from Obama. You don’t see Obama’s ludicrous gaffe that Iran is a tiny country and no threat to us. Nor his 57 American states gaffe. Nor his forgetting, if he ever knew, that Russia has a veto in the U.N. Nor his whining and puerile “come on” when he is being challenged. This is the kind of editing one would expect from Goebbels’ disciples, not Cronkite’s.
More appalling, a skit on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” last weekend suggested that Gov. Palin’s husband had sex with his own daughters. That show was written with the assistance of Al Franken, Democratic Party candidate in Minnesota for the U.S. Senate. Talk about incest.
But worse than all the unfair and distorted reporting and image projecting are the shocking gaps in Obama’s life that are not reported at all. The major media simply have not reported on Obama’s two years at New York’s Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers. Later, they both ended up as neighbors and associates in Chicago. Obama denies more than a passing relationship with Ayers. Should the media be curious? In only two weeks, the media have focused on all the colleges Gov. Palin has attended, her husband’s driving habits 20 years ago, and the close criticism of the political opponents Gov. Palin had when she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
But in two years, they haven’t bothered to see how close Obama was with the terrorist Ayers.
Nor have the media paid any serious attention to Obama’s rise in Chicago politics. How did honest Obama rise in the famously sordid Chicago political machine with the full support of Boss Daley? Despite the great — and unflattering — details on Obama’s Chicago years presented in David Freddoso’s new book on Obama, the mainstream media continue to ignore both the facts and the book. It took a British publication, The Economist, to give Freddoso’s book a review with fair comment.
The public image of Obama as an idealistic, post-race, post-partisan, well-spoken and honest young man with the wisdom and courage befitting a great national leader is a confection spun by a willing conspiracy of Obama, his publicist (David Axelrod) and most of the senior editors, producers and reporters of the national media.
Perhaps that is why the National Journal’s respected correspondent Stuart Taylor wrote, “The media can no longer be trusted to provide accurate and fair campaign reporting and analysis.”
That conspiracy not only has Photoshopped out all of Obama’s imperfections (and dirtied up his opponent McCain’s image) but also has put most of his questionable history down the memory hole.
The public will be voting based on the idealized image of the man who never was. If he wins, however, we will be governed by the sunken, cynical man Obama really is. One can only hope that the senior journalists will be judged as harshly for their professional misconduct as Wall Street’s leaders currently are for their failings.
Our Hill spoke out again today, and she said: I TOLD YOU SO!
My proposals over the past two years were derided as too much, too soon. Now we are forced to reckon with too little, too late.
Good post up on Riverdaughter blog with Hill’s full statement. God, WHY oh WHY did the DNC idiots not listen to this smart, effective woman?????
BTW, for anyone wondering why BO is benefiting poll-wise from the current crisis even though he hasn’t even proposed a plan: McCain is being hurt simply because he’s a Republican. Bush’s approval rating, which went up slightly after the GOP convention, is now down to the mid- to upper 20s, which is practically Nixon territory. The fact that McCain’s numbers have dropped some, too, isn’t a coincidence.
HillaryforTexas,
How much more exciting and interesting would this have been if Hillary was our candidate now.
nikki is not a bot by any stretch of the imagination.
Presidential McCain
McCain’s bold move could reframe the election–and win it.
This is on Weekly Standard, a conservative publication, so keep that in mind, but I thought this was still a good read to share.
by William Kristol
09/25/2008 12:00:00 AM
THERE’S A REASON voters in presidential races tend to shy away from electing senators. The primary skills of a legislator–talking, compromising, “representing”–are different from those of an executive–deciding, choosing, “executing.” There are individuals who have the ability both to deliberate patiently and act energetically–but it’s a rare combination. The best legislators tend not to be great executives, and vice-versa.
This year, for the first time in U.S. history, both major party nominees for president are sitting senators. The winner may be the one who can convince some portion of the electorate that he’s less “senatorial,” and more “presidential,” than the other.
That’s why McCain’s action Wednesday–announcing he would come back to Washington to try to broker a deal to save our financial system–could prove so important. The rescue package that was so poorly crafted and defended by the Bush administration seemed to be sliding toward defeat. The presidential candidates were on the sidelines, carping and opining and commenting. But one of them, John McCain, intervened suddenly and boldly, taking a risk in order to change the situation, and to rearrange the landscape.
Of course his motives were partly election-related. But “the interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place.” If candidate McCain, for whatever mixed motives, ends up acting in a way that results in a deal that is viewed as better than the original proposal, and that seems to stabilize the markets and avert a meltdown–he’ll benefit politically, and he deserves to. For McCain will have acted presidentially in the campaign–which some voters, quite reasonably, will think speaks to his qualifications to be president.
As for the question of Friday night’s debate, which some in the media seem to think more important than saving the financial system–if the negotiations are still going on in D.C., McCain should offer to send Palin to debate Obama! Or he can take a break from the meetings, fly down at the last minute himself, and turn a boring foreign policy debate, in which he and Obama would repeat well-rehearsed arguments, into a discussion about leadership and decisiveness. And if the negotiations are clearly on a path to success, then McCain can say he can now afford to leave D.C., fly down, and the debate would become a victory lap for McCain.
So the action of these few days becomes more important than the talk of that hour and a half Friday night. One could even say the contrast between the two men in action becomes the true debate over who should be president. The media, being talkers and debaters, love debates, overestimate their importance, and are underestimating the possible effect of McCain’s dramatic action. In the debate itself, McCain should mock the media’s greater concern for gabbing than solving our economic problems, and should associate Obama with such a talk-heavy media-type approach to politics. If the race is between an energetic executive and an indecisive talker, the energetic executive should win.
Team Obama is the one spinning and the American People know that Leadership is about ACTION not TALK.
I’m upset about the Democrats postering on this issue…I don’t want the people to be hurt by those in Congress who cause this mess to act like they did nothing wrong.
What the Democrats fail to understand is that Obama need those swing states and they’re not happy with this bailout at all. Many people across the nation are not happy with the Democrats postering like they have not contribute to this mess. I’m a Dem and I know my party protected Fannie and Freddie for decades and did block republicans attempts to reduce their mandate and size.
Where are we going to get the money to pay for Obama’s foreign aid package on top of working to fix the economy?
Bob Schieffer reports on the Early Show:
“I am told, Maggie, that the way McCain got involved in this in the first place, the Treasury Secretary was briefing Republicans in the House yesterday, the Republican conference, asked how many were ready to support the bailout plan. Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you’ve got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you’ve got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover. If you don’t do that, this whole bailout plan is going to fail. So that’s how, McCain, apparently, became involved. ”
So Paulson begged McCain to get involved. The exact oppositite of these dem leaders crying political stunt. I don’t think anyone was begging BO to come convince dems.
A timeline of who tried to do what wrt fannie and freddie. Does not look good for the Dems and as is his wont, Obama was “present” on this situation in ‘05.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0
We know McCain is not afraid to debate; he wanted 10 town halls w/ Obama, and Obama initially agreed, but backed out only a day or so later.
Obama could not have asked to postpone a debate, given the above. McCain could pull off the request that the first debate be postponed.
To reinforce that JM is eager to debate, a spokesman for McCain (with McCain’s blessing) should propose something like: “John McCain is eager to reschedule the first debate. This probably can be scheduled for next week, assuming that the critical business regarding the bailout has been addressed. We find it curious that the Democratic candidate who agreed to doing ten joint townhall debates, and then immediately backed out, suddenly wants to characterize John McCain as wanting to hide from the public.”
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That said, I’m sure Team McCain is all over this.
I believe we are better off being ruled by the first 200 names in the Brooklyn phone directory than the entire faculty of Harvard Law School, including its erstwhile editor who never deigned to write a single article of his own.
For that reason, I saw this headline from Taipai and worried because I do not think it is that farfetched. It is in times of crisis that governments seize extraordinary powers–and do not necesarily give them back.
32 Words That Could End Our Democracy
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.” – Section 8 of the Paulson Proposal
Isn’t this why McCain will be there in washington rather than fulfilling this commitment to big media to debate the issues when the biggest issue of all is ripe for decision? Shouldn’t Obamahave seen this for the issue it was and rushed in their on his own volition–rather than hiding in the shadows?
When a leader hears gunfire he runs toward it–not away from it. When Hillary arrived at Yale and there was a student admin standoff that could turn violent she stepped forward and helped mediate a resolution. Obama has a different response,
Why is this imperative so difficult for the junior senator from Illinois to fathom. Why did we have to send the Crawford sheriff to serve a summons on him and get him into washington to deal with a potentially catastrophic problem of this county? His bot senators and congressmen are holding out waiting for a signal from him. It is high time he bellied up to the bar. Obviously, it does not come easy for him, does it?
I am still angry with this UnDemocratic Party…..I used to be a loyal Democrat for the last 25 years, but now I am Independent..This party of Taliban is going out of touch…
As for the Dems saying McCain doesn’t want to debate … isn’t the Friday debate supposed to be on foreign policy? That’s McCain’s strength. So that argument makes no sense.
From NQ:
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/24/obama-call-me-if-you-need-me
Obama: Call me if you need me. [Update on Meeting with Bush]
Obama made a stunning gaffe in his press conference this afternoon. Responding to McCain suspending his campaign to address the economic crisis, Obama said that if they [Congress] need me, they’ll call me.
Yes, Obama wants to continue with his campaigning and the upcoming debate rather than show leadership and fulfill his role as Senator. In what has to be the quote of the day, if not the election, Obama said:
“Apparently, this was something that, you know, he was more decisive about…”—Barack Obama speaking about John McCain action to stop campaigning.
Wow! There could be no further contrast in leadership between these two men. McCain rolls up his sleeves and says ‘let’s get something done.’ And Obama says ‘call me if you need me.’
Update: Bush will meet with both candidates Thursday …
Yes, Obama went on to explain:
“I believe that we should continue to have the debate,” he said. “I think that it makes sense for us to present ourselves before the American people, to talk about the nature of the problems that we’re having in our financial system, to talk about how it relates to our global standing in the world, what implications it has for our national security, how it relates to critical questions, like the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
“We’ve both got big planes. We’ve painted our slogans on the sides of them. They can get us from Washington, D.C., to Mississippi fairly quickly.”—Barack Obama as quoted by Shailagh Murray in the Washington Post.
When given an opportunity to serve his nation in a time of severe crisis, Barrack Obama decided that his own personal gain was more important.
Stunning!
Sen. Lindsey Graham just made a great set of remarks to Fox News’s “America’s Election HQ” host:
“We don’t want a debate! We want a solution. We’ve got 40 days to debate. We’ve been begging this guy to debate us for six months now. What we need is for the Congress to answer the call of Secretary Paulson and Ben Bernanke and Warren Buffett and every other smart person to not allow a financial PEARL HARBOR to happen.”
Host: Senator Obama has suggested that a president needs to be able to do a number of things at the same time …. like have a debate for example and be able to have his finger on the pulse of what is going on in Washington. Is he right about that?
Sen. Graham: I would think that if the president were overseas right now and talking to a foreign leader, they would get on a plane and come back home because the country is experiencing a financial crisis. If either one of these people were president, and they were overseas talking about some foreign policy matter, I hope they would have the good judgment to jump on a plane and come back to the United States and call an emergency session of the Congressional leaders to avoid what Warren Buffett calls a ‘financial Pearl Harbor’. That to me is what we need to do.
We have 40 days left to debate. We may not have but a few days left to protect American savings and financial institutions from collapse, and after the two days you’ve seen here in Congress of nothing but posturing, we’re running out of time.
pm317,
I wouldn’t be surprised it Obama throws all the dems under the bus just so he has a clean slate. He’ll find a way to say every dem in the party but him are to blame for Fanny Mae et al.
JanH Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 10:46 am
If that is all the ammunition Couric got from the interview, then it is pretty pitiful.
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Agree.
That’s why the media is mad, they’re not able to break Palin so what they do is take her out of context or spin her answers to fit their narrative but it still doesn’t work against her.
The media is still whinning about what is happened in Alaska and it’s still not going to hurt her
Obama secret weapon is Pres. Bill Clinton support. Even though Obamabot whine and cry about his level of support his going around saying the Dem have a better plan for the economy is having an effect in some quarters.
That’s why I’m surprise Republicans don’t keep hammering Obama continue spending and taxing while still in this economic crisis.
O
Paula Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am
As for the Dems saying McCain doesn’t want to debate … isn’t the Friday debate supposed to be on foreign policy? That’s McCain’s strength. So that argument makes no sense.
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They have to complain about something. That argument is stupid
# mp Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Bill did not answer the question on something Pelosi knew in 1999….about some oversight that she knew should be done/was aware off…she may opposed it….anybody have any idea..
What they were talking about was the bill presented in 1999 that would have created more strict rules and additional oversight for Fannie/Freddie. Large accounting discrepancies were being discovered and the GOP pushed for the oversight. The Dems shut it down. Pelosi was one of the folks that killed it. Greenspan warned that if the bill wasn’t passed that Fannie/Freddie problems would get worse and what is happening now would happen.
Greenspan was right. Big Dawg was right and Pelosi and company were wrong.
rgb, Graham hit it out of the park with that analogy. Wow. I guess he got teh talking points memo bright and early this morning….
Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you’ve got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you’ve got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover.
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The problem is bi-partisan. McCain rose to the challenge and Obama did not. They can spin it however they choose that is what it comes down to. John knows there is an imperative to act so our financial system does not crash–but like Hillary he wants to be sure the deal is the right one for the American People. Obama wanted to wait until January. Earth to bambi–the problem will not wait that long. Also, if there if there is no agreement reached by Friday afternoon, you really should stay involved rather that rushing to some studio to debate with an empty chair simply to please your big media handlers.
Oh- shorttermer. Lay off Nikki, please.
And that “good day” shit is so “70’s Show” played out. From now on, I will refer to you as Fez.
So Biden wanted to do his day job [that he was hired by voters to do] and nObama wanted to continue to stump/debate…..seems like the Dems have the ticket upside down, should be Biden/nObama….oh, right Biden only got [fewer than] 10,000 votes for President, correct?
And to think, we could have had Hillary. I guess McCain and the other smart woman will have to do – Clintons, McCain, Palin – patriots all.
There is a new women’s national organization being formed and will debut on Hillary’s birthday [October 26 2008]. This one will include liberal woman – and all those OTHER women that groups like N.O.W. fail to serve. I can’t wait for myself and my daughter to join.Look for it.
Anyone watch Barry giving a speech at the Global Initiative? It is hilarious! The teleprompter must not be functioning too well because at least 3-4 times he had to completely stop for a like 30 secs until it resumed and then he repeated his last line and continued…it is so funny,. LOL LOL LOL
# rjk1957 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Ya gotta love Bill!
Saying McCain is acting in good faith and pointing out that McCain wanted town hall meetings with Obama for months so he is not running from a debate.
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I have to wonder whether Big Dawg is trying to get out of campaigning for the Fraud – too many praises for McCain, and Obama might have to jettison him on the campaign trail…and this waiting after the Jewish holidays until Oct 9 – wonder if the October surprise is going to happen early October, so Big Dawg can’t save the Fraud no matter what.
Nikki22 said:
“FDR didn’t stop being the president whenever there was a crisis neither did Lincoln or any of our greatest leaders.”
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Nikki, with all due respect, you’ve got it backwards. FDR and Lincoln were doing their jobs as PRESIDENT when grave crises erupted. Mac and BO are US SENATORS first and it is their duty to show up for work and do their jobs; campaigning is extracurricular.
Illinois has had only one U.S. senator since BO was (s)elected. For the first year he was buying his dream home, for the next three he was running for president. BO has rarely shown up for work and doesn’t want to now – he might accidentally learn something that would displace some of the foreign relations factoids temporarily crammed into his brain.
Where is HRC right now? Is she doing everything possible to push the HOLC proposal?
September 25th, 2008 at 11:37 am
ShortTermer Says:
“There is a new women’s national organization being formed and will debut on Hillary’s birthday [October 26 2008]. This one will include liberal woman – and all those OTHER women that groups like N.O.W. fail to serve. I can’t wait for myself and my daughter to join.Look for it.”
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Sign me up.
Bill Clinton isn’t allowing Obama’s stench and hypocracy to invade his psyche. While he will do what he has to do to get a dim elected to the WH, he won’t lie, cheat, resort to violence, beg or cry like a baby. Obama will and has done all of those things or at least condoned them being done.
Big Dawg was right and Pelosi and company were wrong.
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I think that directive probably emanated from Felix Rohatyn, who is executor of Teddy’s estate, a fellow at Middlebury College, the main wall street conduit to the party, the guy who bailed out New York City and a close confident and advisor to Pelosi. He believes in markets uber alles and is openly hostile toward roosevelt economics. I am a guess’sn but I bet I’m right.
From Sun-Times, courtesy of BMerry. I hope this means that our AG, Lisa Madigan (whom I supported) will be going after waste and fraud – I mean “the fraud.”
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September 25, 2008
BY CHRIS FUSCO AND DAVE MCKINNEY
Obama’s $100K Grant for a Garden Never Built
» Click to enlarge image A group headed gy Kenny B. Smith (top right) was awarded a state grant by then-state Sen. Barack Obama to create a botanic garden in Englewood. Plans now call for the city to take back the garden site because the project never happened. Attorney General Lisa Madigan is investigating.
(Keith Hale/Sun-Times/AP)
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A $100,000 state grant for a botanic garden in Englewood that then-state Sen. Barack Obama awarded in 2001 to a group headed by a onetime campaign volunteer is now under investigation by the Illinois attorney general amid new questions, prompted by Chicago Sun-Times reports, about whether the money might have been misspent.
The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.
Smith wrote another $20,000 in grant-related checks to K.D. Contractors, a construction company that his wife, Karen D. Smith, created five months after work on the garden was supposed to have begun, records show. K.D. is no longer in business.
Attorney General Lisa Madigan — a Democrat who is supporting Obama’s presidential bid — is investigating “whether this charitable organization properly used its charitable assets, including the state funds it received,” Cara Smith, Madigan’s deputy chief of staff, said Wednesday.
In addition to the 2001 grant that Obama directed to the housing association as a “member initiative,” the not-for-profit group got a separate $20,000 state grant in 2006.
Madigan’s office has notified Obama’s presidential campaign of the probe, which was launched this week. But Obama’s actions in awarding the money are not a focus of the investigation, Smith said.
Questions about the grant, though, come as spending on local pet projects has become an issue in Obama’s campaign against John McCain.
Obama and Kenny Smith announced the “Englewood Botanic Garden Project” at a January 2000 news conference at Englewood High School. Obama was in the midst of a failed bid to oust South Side Democratic Rep. Bobby Rush for a seat in Congress. The garden — planned near and under L tracks between 59th Place and 62nd Place — fell outside of Obama’s Illinois Senate district but within the congressional district’s borders.
Obama vowed to “work tirelessly” to raise $1.1 million to help Smith’s organization turn the City of Chicago-owned lot into an oasis of trees and paths. But Obama lost the congressional race, no more money was raised, and today the garden site is a mess of weeds, chunks of concrete and garbage. The only noticeable improvement is a gazebo.
In a previous interview, Smith said the state grant money was legitimately spent, mostly on underground site preparation.
But no one ever took out construction permits required for such work, city records show. And a contractor who Smith said did most of the work told a reporter all he did was cut down trees and grade the site with a Bobcat.
Citing the garden’s failure to take root, NeighborSpace — an umbrella group for dozens of community gardens citywide — moved Sept. 9 to return the site to the city. Its action followed a July 11 Sun-Times report on the grant.
Obama spokesman Michael Ortiz said Wednesday the senator’s staff in Washington will monitor the Madigan probe and an additional review under way by Gov. Blagojevich’s administration to make sure “the taxpayer funds allocated for the construction of the garden are recuperated from CBHA if the agencies determine that the funds were not properly spent.” Obama’s goal is to ensure the site “be used in a way that benefits the community and that any taxpayer dollars allocated are spent wisely,” Ortiz said.
The relationship between Smith and Obama dates to at least 1997, when Obama wrote a letter that Smith used to help the housing association win city funding for an affordable-housing development near the garden site. Plans called for more than 50 homes; a dozen ultimately were built.
Smith also has donated $550 to Obama campaign funds.
The Sun-Times learned about Karen Smith’s involvement in the project through an Aug. 12 Freedom of Information Act response from a lawyer for Blagojevich¹s Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. The department, according to the lawyer, had ³discovered² 52 pages of ³additional documents² ommitted from an initial response in May to a Sun-Times¹ Freedom of Information Act request about the grant.
Neither Smith nor his wife has been accused of any wrongdoing. Smith and his lawyer did not return repeated calls seeking comment.
In an interview in July, Smith said he was never able to raise the money needed for the garden. But the state grant awarded by Obama was spent properly, he said, on the underground work, with most of the work done by a contractor whose name Smith got wrong.
The Sun-Times tracked down the contractor, Rodolfo Marin, in Austin, Texas, where he now lives.
“What I was hired for was: Clean up the area and cut the trees — that’s all,” Marin said. He said he rented a Bobcat — a sort of small bulldozer — for the project.
And how much did Smith pay him? “If he spent about $3,000 with me, that was too much.”
Chris Fusco and Dave McKinney
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article#
Bill Clinton launching shots across the bow for slamming his economics.
Fox News Blames Democrats for Financial Crisis, Bill Clinton Agrees
newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/25/fox-news-blames-democrats-financial-crisis-bill-clinton-agrees
Going very much against the media meme that the current financial crisis is all George W. Bush and the Republicans’ fault, Bill Clinton on Thursday told ABC’s Chris Cuomo that Democrats for years have been “resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac”
Whether he knew it or not, Clinton was going against virtually all press outlets that have been pointing fingers at Republicans since this crisis began, and likely much to the dismay of such folk actually agreed with a Fox News segment aired on Tuesday’s “Special Report”
Admin, please provide us with ideas for ways, no matter how small, to save our Hillary and Joe Liebermann from the DNC and its rulers who are trying and will try to strip them of all authority right when our country needs them most.
Shortermer
That is great news about the new women’s organization. I look forward to the announcement. Our women’s groups (Naral, NOW, etc) have let us down in this election.
They played in the sandbox with the big boys, and forget that they were representing women.
BTW, Kudos to Biden for doing his job and standing up to Axelrod. Another reason my respect for Biden remains intact.
Question,
Did O stop campaigning to cram for the debate?
I notice the Big Dog is acting the part of the elder statesman/former president again. Good for him. He’s no longer in politics so the BO people have no power over him.
Bill Clinton is walking a tight rope – he does not want to be a mouthpiece for Bo and the Democrats’ propaganda, nor should he. He was the President.
And the only support he is giving to the Fraud and the Democrats comes only from the motive to protect Senator Clintons’ career.
That’s what it looks like to me.
neetabug Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Question,
Did O stop campaigning to cram for the debate?
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Kinda looks like it….
moon, LMAO! Yup, Bill tried to fight his own party, Pelosi chief among them, to get some restraint – the DNC bastards won.
I love big Dawg. That crazy Bill, being truthful again.
“Apparently, this was something that, you know, he was more decisive about…”—Barack Obama speaking about John McCain action to stop campaigning.
Wow! There could be no further contrast in leadership between these two men. McCain rolls up his sleeves and says ‘let’s get something done.’ And Obama says ‘call me if you need me.’
Update: Bush will meet with both candidates Thursday …
Yes, Obama went on to explain:
“I believe that we should continue to have the debate,” he said. “I think that it makes sense for us to present ourselves before the American people, to talk about the nature of the problems that we’re having in our financial system, to talk about how it relates to our global standing in the world, what implications it has for our national security, how it relates to critical questions, like the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
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Earth to Bambi-there is a time to talk and a time to act. I think he just lost the election.
Me thinks Bill Clinton has decided to mix it up and has started payback.
moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Me thinks Bill Clinton has decided to mix it up and has started payback.
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I was thinking the same thing. “…..best served cold.”
All the ones who are in danger from this financial fallout in the Dem party are the ones who backstabbed Hillary and slammed Bills glorious economic days, so Bill i think has rightly decided to shaft them.
neetabug Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Question,
Did O stop campaigning to cram for the debate?
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He must be cramming for the Senate because he hasn’t a clue about what to do. He’ll go into the Senate, sulk around and look like a junior Senator not a President.
I have the idea in the back of my head, that Big Dawg is often saying what Hillary can’t at this time. My respect for him and Hillary and McCain and Palin just grows and grows and grows. I wanted for them, even more than for my own satisfaction, for Big Dawg and Hillary to quit ironing nObama’s shirts – he is doing it nicely.
I joined HillPac some time ago, but am a little disconcerted that she continues to tout Obama, it seems in every correspondence – I can barely stomach it. This PAC is for HER and not HIM, I hope.
I will post more about the new women’s organization as soon as I learn more. My daughter was more elated about it than I as she seems to be more conservative than myself. She had checked out N.O.W. and emailed me once that, “..they are a women’s organization true, but only for the most LIBERAL women!”
Greer unloads on Hastings for heat-packin’ Palin remarks
posted by Aaron Deslatte on Sep 25, 2008 11:23:35 AM
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After U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings,D-Miramar, reportedly suggested that because Republican Sarah Palin carried guns and hunted, she therefore “don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks,” Florida GOP chief Jim Greer couldn’t resist the feast of red meat.
“Alcee Hastings managed to attack sportsmen, African Americans, and the Jewish community in one sentence,” Greer said in a statement Thursday.
“By claiming that Gov. Palin and those Americans who choose to bear arms do not care about the Jewish and African-American citizens of our country, Hastings is viciously throwing the worst kind of stereotypes at the wall and hoping one of them sticks. Even more unfortunate is the fact that this statement comes on the heels of an Obama Florida staff member’s comments that Governor Palin was as ‘Nazi sympathizer.’ The staffer had the good sense to backtrack from his comments, and so should Alcee Hastings.
“Unless Sen. Obama and the Florida Democrat Party believes that ‘anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks,’ both Obama and the FDP should immediately refute this ridiculous and divisive statement.”
blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2008/09/greer-unloads-o.html
Both sides need to declare amnesty and solve the problem. The finger pointing right now is a dangerous diversion. That means Obama, and his media allies. Cease, desist and solve the problem. Abide by your oath.
He’s also committed to campaigning for BO, but has said he won’t be an attack dog. He’s make that perfectly clear.
Going very much against the media meme that the current financial crisis is all George W. Bush and the Republicans’ fault, Bill Clinton on Thursday told ABC’s Chris Cuomo that Democrats for years have been “resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac”
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Bill is simply telling the truth. We cannot survive on lies.
Okay so Bo thought it was oh so important to halt his campaigning so he could cram for a debate on a topic he knows/has zilch experience on…but he didn’t think it was oh so important to halt his campaigning to save the economy?
Very presidential…NOT! Very self-serving…YES!
“Axelrod”
Just what would be his role in an Obama WH?
Drudge has this as one of his headlines from the Daily Mail UK. At this juncture, Senator Clinton has shown more leadership and knowledge and action than the Fraud on the economy. If for any reason she became VP, there’s just no way, the ticket would look completely upside down, BO has got to know that. Everyone would be clear that she’s Presidential (and the shadow President), not him.
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Could Clinton still come back? Internet buzzes with rumours Biden will be replaced by Hillary as Obama’s running mate
The internet is buzzing today with the rumour that Barack Obama’s gaffe-prone running mate Joe Biden will drop out of the race for health reasons – to be replaced by Hillary Clinton.
John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate has created so much interest in the Republicans that Mr Obama will have to make a radical move to regain momentum, the argument goes.
Except that Obama is even more gaff-prone than Biden will ever be. What is wrong with this picture?
America needs Hillary and McCain!!!
another drudge article: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93DA43G1&show_article=1
Bill Clinton: I won’t dump on McCain
WASHINGTON (AP) – Former President Clinton says if Democrats want someone to dump on John McCain, he’s not the guy.
Some members of his party have been complaining that Clinton has not been enthusiastic enough in his support for Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, who defeated Clinton’s wife in the primary campaign, and heaping too much praise on McCain.
But Clinton told CNN’s “Larry King Live” on Wednesday that he doesn’t think “dumping” on McCain or his running mate, Sarah Palin, is a winning strategy. He said undecided voters aren’t interested in attacks but solutions for the problems they face.
“I just don’t believe that getting up here and hyperventilating about Gov. Palin, or Sen. McCain for that matter, is a productive use of a former president’s time and is not a vote-getter,” he said, adding that he admires McCain even though he disagrees with several of his positions.
Clinton said he and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, gave vigorous endorsements to Obama at the national convention last month and that Hillary Clinton has traveled extensively on Obama’s behalf. That includes a tour of Michigan on Saturday.
“I think you can argue that she has done more than all other runner-ups have in the Democratic Party in 40 years,” the former president said. “We have been quite clear on this. We’re not party-wreckers, and we believe that the country needs to take a different course.”
Is Warren buffet also for this paulson plan???
You know what…Buffet is smart but he aslo invested big time in country last year….so even the wise
sage got it wrong
Where are we going to get the money to pay for Obama’s foreign aid package on top of working to fix the economy?
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If universal heath care is dead now then I can only assume his global poverty initiative is dead as well. He may still propose it and the bill did pass but it will not get implemented now, noway, nowhow, nobama.
Survey USA continues its Obama push polling to great degrees.
Pennsylvania
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=cc4913d9-4718-4b45-99dd-925de096e744
Obama 50%
McCain 44%
and look at the sample they started with
Democrat 51%
Republican 38%
Indies 10%
So any wonder Obama 50%, lol
Looks like McCain is in good shape in PA tbh, Obama is skewing polls in every battleground state.
I didn’t realize that Senator Clinton has an Op Ed in the WSJ; I know someone had posted some of it today:
online.wsj.com/article/SB122230767702474045.html
I’ve proposed a new Home Owners’ Loan Corporation (HOLC), to launch a national effort to help homeowners refinance their mortgages. The original HOLC, launched in 1933, bought mortgages from failed banks and modified the terms so families could make affordable payments while keeping their homes. The original HOLC returned a profit to the Treasury and saved one million homes. We can save roughly three times that many today. We should also put in place a temporary moratorium on foreclosures and freeze rate hikes in adjustable-rate mortgages. We’ve got to stem the tide of failing mortgages and give the markets time to recover.
The time for ideological, partisan arguments against these actions is over. For years, the calls to provide borrowers an affordable opportunity to avoid foreclosure as a means of preventing wider turmoil were dismissed as government intrusion into the private marketplace. My proposals over the past two years were derided as too much, too soon. Now we are forced to reckon with too little, too late.
…Corporations that will benefit must be held accountable, not only to large shareholders but also to the American people, who are rightly tired of business as usual: short-term profit at the expense of long-term viability; lax oversight and regulation; obscene bonuses and golden parachutes regardless of performance; reckless risk-taking that has placed the markets in jeopardy; rewards for foreclosing on middle-class families and selling mortgages designed to fail; and outsourcing good jobs to serve short-term stock prices instead of America’s long-term economic health. (excerpt only)
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wonder if she’s trying to get ahead of the curve here – if she’s right, and Congress works on this, it’ll only look good for her.
If for any reason she became VP, there’s just no way, the ticket would look completely upside down, BO has got to know that. Everyone would be clear that she’s Presidential (and the shadow President), not him.
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Count: you are right. his ego could never stand the comparison. My sense is the deal is dead now and what we are seeing in the internet is blowback from old news.
Watch the video — It is good to read between the lines when BC talks — see how he is impartial to Dems
. On Larry King, he ended a long sentence by saying I like his energy plan and you had to scratch your head whether he meant McCain or Obama.
blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
I just viewed David Letterman’s filler time where John McCain was scheduled to be a guest last night. It seems that Letterman is PO’d that McCain cancelled but showed up for the Katie Couric thing. He reiterated the same mantra over and over about McCain: he is a patriot, why did he ditch my show, just does not smell right, he is a patriot, you don’t suspend a campaign but instead you send in the second string quarterback – Sarah Palin, could it be to save the economy or just because his ratings were slipping? KO was there and was engaged by Letterman a little bit on the subject; his idea was that Couric had the money necessary for the bailout, and that McCain ditched Letterman. Letterman said that McCain promised to come back and maybe bring Sarah – now that would be an even greater event.
I think Letterman’s feelings were hurt.
wbboei – if there ever was any deal, and not just rumor…
everything that Clinton is doing with her Op-Ed piece, being on 4-6 different morning shows, etc…she’s showing the Fraud up – telegraphing, “there’s no way, I would be your VP.” None, nope, no way, no how, NoVP4Bama.
correction: buffet invested in the now taken over COUNTRY-WIDE company
Looks like McCain is in good shape in PA tbh, Obama is skewing polls in every battleground state
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Moon: during the primary survey usa was more acccurate than other polling surveys in texas, pennsylvanis, indiana and west virginia where I volunteered. So what is going on now I wonder. Are they just anti republican or what.
McCain up 2 in new national poll, 48-46. He’s only getting 73 percent of Dems, while McCain is getting 83 percent of Repubs.
edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/KeyNSe08.pdf
I live in PA, and that breakdown is a joke. Dems have the registration edge here, but 13 percent is too much of a gap. And the indys were way undersampled.
“He” is Obama, obviously, lol.
wbboei – if there ever was any deal, and not just rumor…
everything that Clinton is doing with her Op-Ed piece, being on 4-6 different morning shows, etc…she’s showing the Fraud up – telegraphing, “there’s no way, I would be your VP.” None, nope, no way, no how, NoVP4Bama.
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Count: my choice of words was poor. I do not believe there was any deal either. With a financial crisis looming and obama deficiencies on full display, and a backchannel out of pelosi office I thought there was a showing of interest on the part of the dem leadership, and then there was all that buzz on the internet. That is the deal I meant that was dead. I am not suggesting there was ever a meeting of the minds.
Bill Clinton has already announced that Hillary will focus on her Senate job and doesn’t want to be Vice President.
He was that direct!
Any rumors tht Biden will drop out and Hillary will replace is just Obama distraction. Democrats shouldn’t hate the Republicans for promoting Sarah Palin. Democrats and progressive women should blame the Democrats that blocked Hillary…period!
I can’t stand the hypocrisy from some democrats who blame Sarah Palin for taking Hillary spot. What kind of logic is that? Gov. Sarah Palin is a Republican and her party offered her the opportunity…While Sen. Clinton party swifted boated her.
Count, Is there still Internet buzz about Hillary replacing Biden? I thought it would’ve died down by now.
I can’t stand the hypocrisy from some democrats who blame Sarah Palin for taking Hillary spot. What kind of logic is that? Gov. Sarah Palin is a Republican and her party offered her the opportunity…While Sen. Clinton party swifted boated her.
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Very true.
“Axelrod”
Just what would be his role in an Obama WH?
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Chief of Staff–he has got that honest look about him, sort of like Bob Hadelman.
Moon: during the primary survey usa was more acccurate than other polling surveys in texas, pennsylvanis, indiana and west virginia where I volunteered. So what is going on now I wonder. Are they just anti republican or what.
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They’re anti republican and are now propaganda tools. It’s the private polls that’s telling them that it’s a closer race. Also the polls oversample dems and the Democratic? Taliban Party wouldn’t be so upset about Sarah Palin if she wasn’t such a treat to them…now and in the future.
The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY hurt themselve BIG TIME with WOMEN and there is no going backwards…the Republican Party is getting a relook by women.
Sarah Palin represent the future of the party and many are liking what they see.
Wouldn’t I love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting this morning with Bush, McCain, Obama, et al.
Pelosi crying wolf. Obama stumbling around. Both pointing fingers…not accomplishing anything…not understanding a word spoken…taking all the credit when all is said and done.
Bots are flipping out over Clinton defending McCain in his remarks today, they are apoplectic on the DU and kos blogs.
Today ABC’s Chris Cuomo interviewed bill clinton…
Is Chris Cuomo relateed to mario/andrew cuomo??
He must be cramming for the Senate because he hasn’t a clue about what to do. He’ll go into the Senate, sulk around and look like a junior Senator not a President.
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That is one big reason for his reticence. He will look like a junior senator, just as you say. Moreover, his bot senators and bot congressmen will be looking to the messiah for leadership, and he is about to get squeezed to make a decision and live with the consequences. People like him are much happier when they can avoid making decisions.
I see the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY Chris Dodd is telling reporters they have a deal in place.
How does Chris Dodd know this? Did the Republicans sign off before McCain got there? Like Hagel and other?
Does this mean this emergency was a Democratic stunt to make Obama look good to the voters by highlighting the economy?
# Paula Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Count, Is there still Internet buzz about Hillary replacing Biden? I thought it would’ve died down by now.
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Yes because Rush just covered it a couple days ago, and Drudge headlining it.
I think we were just ahead of the curve since whatever the motive for releasing that email – it was probably targeted at Clinton supporters.
chris dodd is the biggest cluprit in the lst 2 yrs not doing any oversight..
Holy Shit, you seen Gallup,
46 all tied
McCain jumped 3 in a day, McCain polled hugely last night.
What e-mail, Count?
One of Bill Clinton’s cardinal rules of politics is “always be the bigger person.” In other words, don’t be petty, and be magnanimous and gracious about everyone you work with, when you can.
This election cycle has been one of the nastiest, in-the-dirt, all-out, bare-knuckles elections we’ve ever seen (guess why?) and Clinton sees a HUGE opening to score points by “being the bigger person.” That’s part of the reason why he’s been so civil when discussing McCain and Palin. He knows that you can appreciate a person’s strengths and still disagree with their politics.
Moononpluto, regarding the new Gallup, here is the link:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110668/Gallup-Daily-Race-Back-Tie-46-Each.aspx
John McCain has gained ground and is now tied with Barack Obama among registered voters in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update for Sept. 22-24, with each candidate getting 46% support.
This update covers interviewing conducted Monday through Wednesday, and as such includes one night after McCain’s announcement that he was suspending election campaigning and flying to Washington to help seek a bipartisan solution to the financial crisis. A night by night analysis of interviewing results, however, does not suggest that McCain had a dramatically better night against Obama on Wednesday. Instead, the data show that McCain has been doing slightly better for the last three days than he had in the previous week, and with some strong Obama days falling off of the rolling average, the race has moved to its current tied position. This is the first report since Sept. 13-15, in which Obama did not have at least a one percentage point edge.
As was true during the two weeks in which the candidates selected their vice presidential running mates and held their conventions, this appears to be a time period with much going on that can affect the candidates’ standings, including whatever happens regarding the three planned presidential debates and the one vice presidential debate. — Frank Newport
I would really be interested to see the overnights. You know both party’s ran polls on McCain’s decision. These internet polls can be manipulated too easily.
I love how Bill is coming out now and while ostensibly supporting BO, you can tell quite readily he despises the guy !!!!!
Obama grant being probed
$100,000 DEAL | State to charity: What happened to garden money, other cash?
A $100,000 state grant for a botanic garden in Englewood that then-state Sen. Barack Obama awarded in 2001 to a group headed by a onetime campaign volunteer is now under investigation by the Illinois attorney general amid new questions, prompted by Chicago Sun-Times reports, about whether the money might have been misspent.
The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.
Smith wrote another $20,000 in grant-related checks to K.D. Contractors, a construction company that his wife, Karen D. Smith, created five months after work on the garden was supposed to have begun, records show. K.D. is no longer in business.
Attorney General Lisa Madigan — a Democrat who is supporting Obama’s presidential bid — is investigating “whether this charitable organization properly used its charitable assets, including the state funds it received,” Cara Smith, Madigan’s deputy chief of staff, said Wednesday.
In addition to the 2001 grant that Obama directed to the housing association as a “member initiative,” the not-for-profit group got a separate $20,000 state grant in 2006.
Madigan’s office has notified Obama’s presidential campaign of the probe, which was launched this week. But Obama’s actions in awarding the money are not a focus of the investigation, Smith said.
Questions about the grant, though, come as spending on local pet projects has become an issue in Obama’s campaign against John McCain.
Obama and Kenny Smith announced the “Englewood Botanic Garden Project” at a January 2000 news conference at Englewood High School. Obama was in the midst of a failed bid to oust South Side Democratic Rep. Bobby Rush for a seat in Congress. The garden — planned near and under L tracks between 59th Place and 62nd Place — fell outside of Obama’s Illinois Senate district but within the congressional district’s borders.
Obama vowed to “work tirelessly” to raise $1.1 million to help Smith’s organization turn the City of Chicago-owned lot into an oasis of trees and paths. But Obama lost the congressional race, no more money was raised, and today the garden site is a mess of weeds, chunks of concrete and garbage. The only noticeable improvement is a gazebo.
In a previous interview, Smith said the state grant money was legitimately spent, mostly on underground site preparation.
But no one ever took out construction permits required for such work, city records show. And a contractor who Smith said did most of the work told a reporter all he did was cut down trees and grade the site with a Bobcat.
Citing the garden’s failure to take root, NeighborSpace — an umbrella group for dozens of community gardens citywide — moved Sept. 9 to return the site to the city. Its action followed a July 11 Sun-Times report on the grant.
Obama spokesman Michael Ortiz said Wednesday the senator’s staff in Washington will monitor the Madigan probe and an additional review under way by Gov. Blagojevich’s administration to make sure “the taxpayer funds allocated for the construction of the garden are recuperated from CBHA if the agencies determine that the funds were not properly spent.” Obama’s goal is to ensure the site “be used in a way that benefits the community and that any taxpayer dollars allocated are spent wisely,” Ortiz said.
The relationship between Smith and Obama dates to at least 1997, when Obama wrote a letter that Smith used to help the housing association win city funding for an affordable-housing development near the garden site. Plans called for more than 50 homes; a dozen ultimately were built.
Smith also has donated $550 to Obama campaign funds.
The Sun-Times learned about Karen Smith’s involvement in the project through an Aug. 12 Freedom of Information Act response from a lawyer for Blagojevich¹s Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. The department, according to the lawyer, had ³discovered² 52 pages of ³additional documents² ommitted from an initial response in May to a Sun-Times¹ Freedom of Information Act request about the grant.
Neither Smith nor his wife has been accused of any wrongdoing. Smith and his lawyer did not return repeated calls seeking comment.
In an interview in July, Smith said he was never able to raise the money needed for the garden. But the state grant awarded by Obama was spent properly, he said, on the underground work, with most of the work done by a contractor whose name Smith got wrong.
The Sun-Times tracked down the contractor, Rodolfo Marin, in Austin, Texas, where he now lives.
“What I was hired for was: Clean up the area and cut the trees — that’s all,” Marin said. He said he rented a Bobcat — a sort of small bulldozer — for the project.
And how much did Smith pay him? “If he spent about $3,000 with me, that was too much.”
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Don’t you hate to see snake come out and try to bite you when they think you’re down…in either party.
McCain has a lot of snakes come out this week…it will be interesting to see them stay out in the light or go back in their hole.
mccain on c-span…now recorded
c-span2…actually..
I’m going to have to say a BIG I’M SORRY to the Republicans about their warnings on Fannie and Freddie.
Although GWB did want to reign in F & F, he still is a dunce with me in his lack of ability to communicate with the people.
Yes. Chris Cuomo is related to the NY Cuomo’s.
BTW_ Big Dawg lumped Dodd in with the idiots who said no back in 1999.
Admin- I signed up for Hillary Sent Me.
BTW- I have a theory on why Dumbass didn’t want to go back to DC when McCain asked him- he needs all three days to come up with a halfway believable excuse for why he never held a single sub-committee hearing.
Lastly, regarding Palin in all this: look, she’s nice enough. Someone we can see ourselves meeting with, and liking, but in all sincere honesty, she’s not ready to be POTUS today. At least not a very good one.
She’s good at what she does, and I think an actual reformer like McCain, but I’m not going to insult you guys or me in saying she could handle this economic crisis or Putin. Few people are. Hillary is for certain. Palin would kick ass in a cabinet position and even as VP in a certain role (not Cheney’s disfiguring of it). I also adore her family. They’re as much like mine as anyones and I believe they’re off-limits. Everyone’s are off-limits unless and active part of the campaign or they have skeletons that directly affect the candidate.
ADMIN,
i like everything you’ve said, i have been waiting to hear what your plan would be, and i am pleased. ofcourse, you havent said what you think about voting for mccain, in the past you said you wouldnt be doing so yourself, still, i have been wanting to know how you feel about mccain and palin now. you know, it would just be encouraging to know that you approve of them as a default…
anyway, as someone said up thread, you have great influence, and respect among hillary supporters. remember all those, who started here and have their own blogs, come here to read what you say, so really now your message is reaching millions. so again i like everything you’ve said. many of us have been pissed at hillary, but that does not mean we dont want her. it simply meant we wanted her to take a different route.
the important things to me, in this order:
1. GET RID OF OBAMA
2. GET RID OF THE DNC AS WE KNOW IT TODAY
3. PUSH HILLARY FOR 2012
thanks admin for being reliable…
Its hilarious, McCain is hacking away from Obama the Dems strongest suit, the economy. What does Obama have now, change and uh?
OkieAtty,
That’s what makes this so aggravating and disgusting at the same time. Like you I like Palin. I even think she is more capable and experience than Obama.
So why on earth is this guy even a senator? It’s beyond stupid!
From NQ, a link to a Tony Blankley columm…Yes the same Tony Blankley whom I used to detest….I now find myself “Amen, Tony, Amen”. Man, things have changed.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_man_who_never_was.html
September 24, 2008
Media Campaigns Hard for Obama
By Tony Blankley
The mainstream media have gone over the line and are now straight-out propagandists for the Obama campaign.
While they have been liberal and blinkered in their worldview for decades, in 2007-08, for the first time, the major media consciously are covering for one candidate for president and consciously are knifing the other. This is no longer journalism; it is simply propaganda. (The American left-wing version of the Völkischer Beobachter cannot be far behind.)
And as a result, we are less than seven weeks away from possibly electing a president who has not been thoroughly or even halfway honestly presented to the country by our watchdogs — the press. The image of Obama that the press has presented to the public is not a fair approximation of the real man. They consciously have ignored whole years of his life and have shown a lack of curiosity about such gaps, which bespeaks a lack of journalistic instinct.
Thus, the public image of Obama is of a “man who never was.”
I take that phrase from a 1956 movie about a real-life World War II British intelligence operation to trick the Germans into thinking the Allies were going to invade Greece rather than Sicily in 1943. Operation Mincemeat involved the acquisition of a human corpse dressed as “Major William Martin, R.M.,” which was put into the sea near Spain. Attached to the corpse was a briefcase containing fake letters suggesting that the Allied attack would be against Sardinia and Greece.
To make the operation credible, British intelligence concocted a fictional life for the corpse, creating a letter from a lover and tickets to a London theater — all the details of a life, but not the actual life of the dead young man whose corpse was being used. So, too, the man the media have presented to the nation as Obama is not the real man.
The mainstream media ruthlessly and endlessly repeat any McCain gaffes while ignoring Obama gaffes. You have to go to weird little Web sites to see all the stammering and stuttering that Obama needs before getting out a sentence fragment or two. But all you see on the networks is an eventually clear sentence from Obama. You don’t see Obama’s ludicrous gaffe that Iran is a tiny country and no threat to us. Nor his 57 American states gaffe. Nor his forgetting, if he ever knew, that Russia has a veto in the U.N. Nor his whining and puerile “come on” when he is being challenged. This is the kind of editing one would expect from Goebbels’ disciples, not Cronkite’s.
More appalling, a skit on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” last weekend suggested that Gov. Palin’s husband had sex with his own daughters. That show was written with the assistance of Al Franken, Democratic Party candidate in Minnesota for the U.S. Senate. Talk about incest.
But worse than all the unfair and distorted reporting and image projecting are the shocking gaps in Obama’s life that are not reported at all. The major media simply have not reported on Obama’s two years at New York’s Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers. Later, they both ended up as neighbors and associates in Chicago. Obama denies more than a passing relationship with Ayers. Should the media be curious? In only two weeks, the media have focused on all the colleges Gov. Palin has attended, her husband’s driving habits 20 years ago, and the close criticism of the political opponents Gov. Palin had when she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
But in two years, they haven’t bothered to see how close Obama was with the terrorist Ayers.
Nor have the media paid any serious attention to Obama’s rise in Chicago politics. How did honest Obama rise in the famously sordid Chicago political machine with the full support of Boss Daley? Despite the great — and unflattering — details on Obama’s Chicago years presented in David Freddoso’s new book on Obama, the mainstream media continue to ignore both the facts and the book. It took a British publication, The Economist, to give Freddoso’s book a review with fair comment.
The public image of Obama as an idealistic, post-race, post-partisan, well-spoken and honest young man with the wisdom and courage befitting a great national leader is a confection spun by a willing conspiracy of Obama, his publicist (David Axelrod) and most of the senior editors, producers and reporters of the national media.
Perhaps that is why the National Journal’s respected correspondent Stuart Taylor wrote, “The media can no longer be trusted to provide accurate and fair campaign reporting and analysis.”
That conspiracy not only has Photoshopped out all of Obama’s imperfections (and dirtied up his opponent McCain’s image) but also has put most of his questionable history down the memory hole.
The public will be voting based on the idealized image of the man who never was. If he wins, however, we will be governed by the sunken, cynical man Obama really is. One can only hope that the senior journalists will be judged as harshly for their professional misconduct as Wall Street’s leaders currently are for their failings.
Now what McCain should do is say, I will debate but i think we should switch it from foreign policy to the Economy and Domestic, totally throw Obama for a complete and totally leave him no time to prepare.
Obama could not refuse to change subject with all thats going on.
ADMIN – another great post … thanks for your clarification on the SML issue…of course we all want Hillary in the best leadership position she can be in…and these days the clouds are just beginning to clear…
…”we rally on”…
jbstonesfan Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I love how Bill is coming out now and while ostensibly supporting BO, you can tell quite readily he despises the guy !!!!!
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Damn, Bill’s goooood.
Berkeley Vox Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
One of Bill Clinton’s cardinal rules of politics is “always be the bigger person.” In
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Was that why he was always stopping off at McDonald’s??
NY Times is really over the top Obama’s name has appeared in crossword puzzle many times and McCain’s name has never been in the puzzle.
So anybody hearing anything about John Edwards lately?
rgb44hrc: lol!
Jan,
It DOES matter that Palin is being blamed for something that Couric said and that Palin disagreed with! Palin is being made to look bad when it was a trick by Couric.
McCain thanks the “man from Hope”… cute cute
OkieAtty,
I agree with you, but I don’t want another Cheney. That’s why I’m voting for John McCain, he is more then qualified to be President of the United States, while O is BUBBA, who believes in the hype and has no respect for Biden, nor will he listen to anybody until he get into trouble.
Sarah Palin did her job and vp and that is to unify the base and bring strengths McCain need to win…she is doing that and is not making mistakes to hurt the campaign. I have tremdous respect for her and I also agree with her Energy Plan…I never agree with the current policy of importing 80% of you energy from countries that hate us.
That money would go along way to bringing the trade imbalance under control while we put in alternative energy on line…Also we should be pumping more oil from Alaska to reduce the shock of natural disasters in the oil fields in the Gulf.
Also as a Democratic fiscal conservative I have big concerns over Obamacats spending and taxes that will hit the middle class the most. It never fails with these dems, with the exception of Hillary and Bill, that they never think about the middle class will be hard hit in their tax plan.
I lived in Obama ward and the difference from now to 30 years ago is striking in how high taxes are and how less area services because small business is very stagnant and start up is a dream.
turndown.
I agree…it DOES matter.
I look at my vote as simply anti-Obama and not necessarily pro McCain….
Just to be clear- I’m not a BO supporter. I don’t have a candidate for the general election. Just expressing my opinion about McCain’s suspension of his campaign & why I didn’t like it. As for being ready to be POTUS on day one who cares? I thought all that mattered was giving great speeches or being popular with the cool kids. Now some of the same people who said experience wasn’t important want demand the vp candidate be ready to take over? Puhleeze!
No change in McCain debate status
By LIZ SIDOTI – 4 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — John McCain’s campaign is welcoming news of an agreement in principle between congressional Republicans and Democrats on a bailout of the financial industry.
But the Republican isn’t yet ready to say he will attend the presidential candidates’ first scheduled debate on Friday.
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers says: “There’s no deal until there’s a deal.”
He says McCain is optimistic an agreement between Congress and the Bush administration will be completed but that the afternoon developments had not changed his plans not to debate.
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ho1YzTq9L7VHzsHpSjXdSXBulJmAD93DT8MG0
Ex-GE CEO Welch Says To Cap Executive Pay
Jack Welch, who ran General Electric for 20 years and was one of the nation’s highest paid CEOs, says limits on executive pay are now warranted.
“I think without question once the federal government has to step in to bail out the private enterprise, you’ve got to modify the private enterprise pay packages,” he tells host Alex Chadwick.
In 2002, Welch told the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer that anyone who wanted to cap executive pay would be the “dumbest guy in town” because it challenges the free enterprise system.
In 1999, Fortune magazine called Welch the “manager of the century.”
“Times and men’s fortunes change,” says Welch. “And we now are in a time of unprecedented difficulties.” Welch says the “misalignment between bonuses and shareowners and the public” calls for changing the rules on executive pay.
“I’m the first to admit I never thought I’d say this,” he says.
Republican presidential nominee John McCain has called for executives benefiting from the bailout to have compensation packages that aren’t higher than $400,000 — the salary of the president of the United States. Welch says it won’t be hard to find CEOs to work for this or less.
‘Wall Street And Main Street Tied Together’
Welch says he likes the idea of infusing liquidity into the economy to alleviate the credit freeze. “Credit is tight as can be. People can’t buy cars and lease them and finance them. People can’t do a whole series of things. Some people can’t meet payrolls because they can’t get liquidity.”
He says the debate between Congress and the executive branch should be wrapped up “fast” — within the next week. “Every day we wait and there’s no credit available. And confidence is down. You are risking American jobs. You are putting people’s 401(k) s at risk,” he says.
“This is Wall Street and Main Street tied together at the hip,” Welch says. “It may feel unfair; it may feel a lot of those things. But in the end, we can’t let our hard-working people lose their jobs [and] lose their savings because we’re angry. We’ve got to do the right thing.”
Welch says he’s concerned about a “very serious rapidly decelerating economy that could lead us to a very severe recession by the first quarter of next year.”
He says we’re now in a “dislocation,” similar to the bailout of savings and loans in the 1980s, the Asian crisis in 1997, and “Black Monday,” when the stock markets plunged in 1987. The recovery may be “U-shaped” rather than “V-shaped,” he says, but he hopes that “partisanship falls to the wayside” during the debate about how to fix the economy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95038679
I am a bit surprised the repubs would agree to a deal before McCain showed up. Odd…
S, we understand that some want the Senate Majority Leader position to go to Hillary in order to protect her. Of course if the votes (or pressure) are there to make Hillary SML then Hillary does not need the “protection”.
There will be attempts to undermine Hillary but they won’t be overt. The SML position will be a straitjacket that curtails her ability to maneuver. Indeed the SML straitjacket will make it easier to attack her (especially by the nutroots and Obama surrogates trying to keep him viable). The public attacks will be that she is not doing what should be done while behind the scenes Obama and his surrogates block the SML from doing what Obama public advocates are demanding.
Obama is strongest with the party eggheads and some of the Dim leadership. Hillary should not play on his ballfield, but rather create her own. That is why we suggested triangulation away from the Party.
Skmf12, the Rolling Stones had a song about polliticians and suggested it was a “choice of Cancer or Polio”. Sadly, this election is a choice of two evils. We can’t be enthusiastic about McCain but we know Obama must be defeated.
We think of it as staying on the Obama Titanic or jumping into the ice waters of the North Atlantic to McCain (enroute to the S.S. Hillary).
Apparently, the dems were so scared that McCain was coming to DC to kick ass that they tried to deal as quick as possible and drop many objections.
admin, how can you be so sure BO will lose? This still seems like a year where Ham Sanwich VS. Any Repub=Ham Sandwich wins.
The bill is not signed, thats what McCain is saying, its not done yet, the republicans will wait until McCain turns up, they have to vote on it, correct, so McCain will be on the floor for it.
Jennifer Rubin has an article linked at RCP http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/32452- “Let McCain be McCain.” She nails Dumbass:
As for Barack Obama, I agree with this take that his initial effort to avoid involvement with brokering a deal didn’t come off all that well. (”It’s shocking that someone who believes himself ready to lead the free world would so brazenly try to dodge any participation in what could be a defining moment in our history.”) What was striking about Obama’s comment was his remark that if “the Congressional leadership” needed him, he’d be available. It’s an odd way to put it — he is the leader of his party now and he seemed utterly disinterested in doing anything that involved active problem-solving/deal-making. He does, after all, have a current job — in the Senate.
Palin Speaks!
Susan Davis reports on the presidential race.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin took questions today from the campaign press corps—the first time since John McCain announced her as his running mate Aug. 29, CNN reported.
Sarah Palin talks to reporters outside of Engine Company 10, Ladder Company 10 next to the World Trade Center site (AP)
She took four questions after a visit to Ground Zero in Manhattan where she aligned herself with President George W. Bush’s approach to the war on terrorism. “I agree with the Bush administration that we take the fight to them. We never again let them come onto our soil and try to destroy not only our democracy, but communities like the community of New York,” she said. “Never again. So yes, I do agree with taking the fight to the terrorists and stopping them over there.”
Palin said she did not agree with the notion that the U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan is fueling Islamic extremists, arguing that the military presence “will lead to further security of our nation, again, because the mission is to take the fight over there.”
As for her home state politics, Palin was noncommittal about her support of embattled Alaska lawmakers Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, noting that Stevens’s trial is now under way in Washington D.C. “We’ll see where that goes,” she said, and then dodged a follow-up question on whether she would support their re-election bids.
Asked for her position on the $700 billion bailout package before Congress, Palin was short on specifics. “I don’t support that until the provisions that Sen. McCain has offered are implemented in Paulson’s proposals,” she said.
blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/25/palin-speaks/?mod=googlenews_wsj
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This is a very smart lady and you don’t become a governor without the support of your party if you didn’t have excellent political skills and charisma.
I think too many people underestimate this woman and before you know it…she has driven a tank over your dead body all they while smiling.
I can’t wait for the debate between Biden and Palin…I think people are going to be surprise by her performance.
Rush just said that house republicans are saying they have not signed on to any deal concerning the bailout.
That the Dems are trying to make it sound like a deal has been reached before McCain gets involved.
moon,
so who did the dems kick under the bus when they “dropped many objections?” I sure hope McCain follows through.
nikki22 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
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I know.
Local to coordinate McCain effort for Camden County
http://www.southjerseylocalnews.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Weekly;!-505740741?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_wk_article&r21.pgpath=%2FSJL%2FNews%2FHaddon+Herald&r21.content=%2FSJL%2FNews%2FHaddon+Herald%2FTopStoryList_Story_2475200
Admin: We think of it as staying on the Obama Titanic or jumping into the ice waters of the North Atlantic to McCain (enroute to the S.S. Hillary).
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Great analogy. I hope, we do not have to stay in the North Atlantic icy waters for very long.
Scrambling Toward A Compromise-(Dems Fear A McCain TRAP!)
McCain is much smarter than they give him credit for.
marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/scrambling_toward_a_compromise.php
John McCain’s vow to return to Washington and get this mess settled out has lit a fire under the behinds of Democratic negotiators who worry that his presence will suspend their negotiations, give House Republicans a figure to rally around in opposition to a compromise, and generally weaken their negotiation position.
My colleague Nora McAvalnah tells me that sources close to Senate Democratic leadership now fear that McCain’s true motivation for calling off his campaign and coming back to DC is simply to cast a “NO” vote against the bailout, despite his private statements to the contrary.
And it’s a smart maneuver: nothing says “maverick,” like voting against Bush and standing with the American public, who remain very wary of the proposal.
Thanks ADMIN…I wondered how the whole SML thing was really playing out for Hillary…and it makes so much more sense for her to be her own woman with all those backstabbers in her midst….I, we, want what is best for her…
Nikki22, it is funny how Big Media will label somethings “ploys” and ignore other “ploys”.
The McCain debate delay and the campaign suspension was a campaign ploy. Obama wanting the economy as the last debate was a ploy. Everything politicians do is a campaign ploy. Hillary writing Wall Street Journal Op-eds on the economy right now are hardly bereft of political implications. Bill Clinton inviting McCain to his Global Initiative could be described as a political ploy too.
Everything politicians do during campaign season are campaign ploys. The question is do they work? We’ll see how McCain’s gambit worked over the course of the next few days.
But if we could be a fly on the wall it would be to see Obama screaming everytime Bill says something nice about McCain or Hillary says something intelligent about the economy.
nikki22 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
As for being ready to be POTUS on day one who cares? I thought all that mattered was giving great speeches or being popular with the cool kids. Now some of the same people who said experience wasn’t important want demand the vp candidate be ready to take over? Puhleeze!
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nikki22,
I had the same thoughts myself. I thought that it was very odd that the same people are questioning her experience and readiness to be president (even though she is the vp nominee, not president) when they elected a man out of the blue, not well-known, and not properly vetted. These are the same accusations against Palin, although they forget that she is the vp nominee not top of the ticket president nominee.
They say that Obama’s lack of foreign experience can be learned and he will be surrounded with the best people to help him. Well, so can Palin! She can learn from the vp position and she has had some executive experience. At this point, she is just as qualified as Obama is. Anyway, I read in my local newspaper a couple of months ago that Obama was being quietly schooled on foreign affairs behind the scence by Sam Nunn. That news hasn’t been linked to the media. I guess they just want us to think that Obama learned all of this on his own. So what if Palin has to be schooled on foreign affairs, so has Obama! Experience wise, I see very little difference between the two for Obama’s campaign to be making a big hissy fit about. Just my opinion.
admin Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
S, we understand that some want the Senate Majority Leader position to go to Hillary in order to protect her. Of course if the votes (or pressure) are there to make Hillary SML then Hillary does not need the “protection”.
There will be attempts to undermine Hillary but they won’t be overt. The SML position will be a straitjacket that curtails her ability to maneuver. Indeed the SML straitjacket will make it easier to attack her (especially by the nutroots and Obama surrogates trying to keep him viable).
That’s what I said two weeks ago when SML was floated here. SML is a lightening rod for controversy. Hillary got this far by keeping her head down, and working hard. To be SML is to invite constant criticism on the 5 o’clock news. To always have your name attached to the dumbest idea of someone in your party. Besides- no POTUS has ever been SML.
Auto Industry to Receive $25B in low cost Govt. Loans
In a move that isn’t likely to get much attention due the current row over the banking industry bailout, Congress approved $25 billion worth of low cost loans for the auto industry today:
(From the FT): “The House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a $25bn package of low-cost loans to help hard-pressed carmakers and their suppliers finance plant modernisation at a time of restricted access to public capital markets.
The automotive loans are separate from the proposed $700bn bail-out for the banking sector, which is still being debated in Congress. The House approved the measure 370-58, setting the stage for Senate approval within days.
The industry’s case has been helped by the fact that Michigan and Ohio, the two states most dependent on the car industry, are key swing states in the November 4 presidential election.
Executives of General Motors, Ford Motor and Chrysler and their suppliers have lobbied heavily for the loans. Both presidential candidates, John McCain and Barack Obama, have expressed support…
…The loans were originally authorised in an energy bill passed last December to finance the retooling of plants for more fuel-efficient vehicles, especially hybrid and electric cars. But they have become a crucial prop for Detroit carmakers
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http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2651745.html
moon:
I doubt there will be many votes today..maybe tomorrow morning…key thing is rthe meetinng with Bush/cong. leaders where McCain can assert his requirements…and then go from there..
Thanks Admin,
for the explanation about Hillary and the SML position. Didn’t realize all of the duties, implications, and nuances associated with such a position. I guess whatever Hillary decides to do (besides being Obama’s vp) would be ok with me. I just will no longer push that issue.
did someone mention an article in the telegraph ? or somewhere discussing hillary’s leadership vs Obama???
could not find it…
if so, could you please provide the link…thanks
independent2008 Says:
I had the same thoughts myself. I thought that it was very odd that the same people are questioning her experience and readiness to be president (even though she is the vp nominee, not president) when they elected a man out of the blue, not well-known, and not properly vetted. These are the same accusations against Palin, although they forget that she is the vp nominee not top of the ticket president nominee.
They say that Obama’s lack of foreign experience can be learned and he will be surrounded with the best people to help him. Well, so can Palin!
Na-ah! She’s got a vaj-jay-jay and everyone knows women are dumber than men. How can women learn about foreign policy and economics and trade when their head is full of meatloaf recipes, they’re breastfeeding and getting all hormonal until their claws come out?
Like Duuuuuuuuh….
Bots are flipping out over Clinton defending McCain in his remarks today, they are apoplectic on the DU and kos blogs.
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When will they learn that the world does not march to their drum. This isnt some rock video it is reality.
Poll: Obama up by 1 in N.H.By Brian Lawson
A poll has Barack Obama leading John McCain by one percentage point in the Granite State.
The Allstate/National Journal Battleground State Polls shows Obama beating his rival 44 percent to 43 percent among registered voters.
“The majority of voters across all three states (78%) feel that the outcome of this year’s Presidential election will affect them and their families, while only 14% feel it will affect them ‘not that much’ or ‘not at all.’” the poll concludes. “This is particularly true in New Hampshire with 58% of voters reporting that the outcome of the election will affect them a ‘great deal.’”
The poll interviewed 403 registered voters and has a margin of error of 4.9 percent. The poll was also conducted in Michigan and Pennsylvania.
http://www.politickernh.com/brianlawson/3805/poll-obama-1-nh
Carby- the auto bailout is BS. I know there are a lot of jobs at stake but goddamit- the writing has been on the wall for nearly 40 fucking years.
In life you either adapt or you die. That goes for business, too.
They didn’t adapt. They should go belly up like all dead cockroaches.
The fact MI is so involved makes the whole thing look like a giant fucking pander- much like sugar tariffs and ethanol subsidies and use requirements get doled out for a few measly votes from IA (sorry Cody).
Do the right thing and stop looking for votes.
Admin, I have a ton of Hill supporting friends who honestly believe Hill will have all this power under an Obama admin. It’s like they don’t understand politics at all. Do they not remember why BC had to make deals with the repubs when he was president? Why there was never even an up or down vote on universal health care. Hint, sometimes your biggest political enemies are those in your own Party.
I do have to say thay Sarah Palin is a great communicator. I love how she broke it down to the media:
“When asked if she thought the continued U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan is inflaming Islamic extremists, she said: “I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security of our nation … because the mission is to take the fight over there.”
Strong and to the point!
Obama looks and sound WEAK!
A LITTLE BIRDIE TOLD ME…
From WashPo today, article “First Debate’s Fate Unclear As Obama Resists McCain’s Call to Postpone”, comes an unnamed “person involved in the negotiations”, this insight:
But if McCain does not attend, “there won’t be a debate,” said one person involved in the negotiations. The event could be changed to another date, and McCain aides said that “everything was on the table” when it came to rescheduling the debate. That includes the possibility of holding it next Thursday, when the vice presidential nominees — Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — are scheduled to face off, and delaying their debate.
Here’s the whole deal:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092403937.html?nav=hcmodule
mj, it was Democrats who stabbed President Bill Clinton in the back first. Obama advisors like Sam Nunn were the first out of the gate on gays in the military which put Bill in a very difficult position in his very young administration.
Then, as you wrote, Dems blocked and carped every step of the way on everything Bill tried to do. When the Dems were booted out of congressional control due to their own corruption and exhausted agenda they blamed Bill Clinton.
Any Democrat that thinks Obama harbors anything but ill will towards Hillary, as you wrote, does not understand politics at all. Nor do they understand how malevolent Obama and his advisors are.
Krugman wonders if the bail out is a scam:
My sneaking suspicion is that they [Paulson and Bernanke] started with a determination to throw money at the financial industry, and everything else is just an excuse.
Honestly, if Obama had been the one to first suspend his campaign and ask for a postponement of the debate, then the media would be throwing bouquets at him and calling him the “messiah” among other accolades.
This double standard is just sickening!
Okie-Atty,
It seem the Auto 25b bailout or workout has already been approved in the Energy bill and it looks like the BIG 3 came to town to hurry up the process.
It seem the Congress is still working on the details….that’s why Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are the worst LEADERS ever…they are aptly named the “do nothing Congress.”
Seriously, admin. It’s irritating. They are really sure he’ll lean on Hill if elected. It’s so clueless.
A timeline of who tried to do what wrt fannie and freddie. Does not look good for the Dems and as is his wont, Obama was “present” on this situation in ‘05.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0
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I hate to see chuck schumer and barney frank on the wrong side of this issue. The big culprit here was pelosi. If memory serves she was a key player in killing the reform bill–unless someone knows different/ The point however is Hillary and McCain were and are on the side of the angels and true to form the passive junior senator from Illionis was simply present/
Campaign: Palin Can’t Be Spared to Raise Money
By Michael Luo
When finance officials for Senator John McCain and the Republican National Committee drew up their fund-raising schedule for the fall, they had planned for his running mate to bear much of the load.
But that was before Mr. McCain’s pick of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska injected fresh energy into the Republican base and she emerged as an enormous draw on the campaign trail — often more of a draw than Mr. McCain himself.
So McCain-Palin campaign officials have elected to put the two together much of the time on the stump, instead of having them campaign separately, as is often the case for presidential tickets.
McCain fund-raisers said initially last month during the Republican national convention that she would be deployed to more than 30 events in September and October benefiting the joint fund-raising committee for the Republican National Committee, several state parties and the campaign’s legal and accounting compliance fund, compared to just four for Mr. McCain.
Because the McCain campaign is accepting public financing, it is barred from raising any more money for its own coffers, but the Republican Party can still collect money and spend it on his behalf, under certain restrictions.
Ms. Palin’s fund-raising schedule was essentially halved after consultations between finance and political officials. But even that reduced scheduled has been cut back in the last few weeks to the point that she has only done one fund-raiser in Ohio to date, fund-raising officials said. Finance officials said they decided not to hold three or four events they had been planning under their revised schedule because of the demands for her on the trail.
Just this week, Cindy McCain appeared instead of Ms. Palin at a fund-raiser in Wyoming, as well as another one in Seattle, where Mrs. McCain made an appearance with Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd.
Fund-raising officials said Ms. Palin is still scheduled to do 10 fund-raisers in October, including events in Texas, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia. She is also supposed to appear with Mr. McCain at a fund-raiser in New York.
Liberal bloggers and others have speculated that the drop-off of appearances by Ms. Palin is driven by the campaign’s reluctance to put her in a situation where she might have to spontaneously answer questions. But McCain fund-raisers said her time is better spent on the trail. Besides, they said, they are still on track to exceed their goal of raising $100 million in September and October.
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/palin-cant-be-spared-to-raise-money-campaign-says/
MJ, you have no idea how many truly stupid people there are in this world.
There were folks that thought the Nazi’s were harmless, too. Many of them and their children could be candidates for the Darwin Award.
What is up with Halley Barber throwing mcCain under the bus by saying the debate will go on? As Governor he could pressure the University of MS to postpone it.
wbboei,
I’m beginning to think that Obama votes present or abstains whenever he doesn’t have a clue what the right thing to do is…which is pretty much always.
some president he would make…NOT!
This is definitely a twilight zone moment.
Michigan Poll Released by Market Research Group of Lansing: Barack Obama 43%, John McCain 46%
Washington D.C. 9/25/2008 06:21 PM GMT (FINDITT)
Here are the latest results from the Michigan poll by Market Research Group of Lansing published on USAElectionPolls.com:
There were 600 voters polled on 9/15-20.
Market Research Group of Lansing
Date: 9/15-20
Michigan
Added: 9/24/08
John McCain 46%
Barack Obama 43%
Quote:
Editor of Inside Michigan Politics. “The current polling shows that they still like him and they like and support Sarah Palin as his running mate.”
The poll showed that Obama continues to show strong support among women (+2%), young voters (+16%), African Americans (+89%), voters living in the Detroit Metro area (+9%) along with his traditional Democratic base.
John McCain is showing strength among blue–collar voters (+10%), men (+9%), white males (+29%), conservatives (+62%) and voters living in West Michigan (+12%) and the Flint/Saginaw/Bay City Area (+8%).
Voters like McCain/Palin’s Experience and Judgment – But Change is a Toss –up. Voters believe the McCain/Palin ticket has more experience (61% – 31%) than the Obama/Biden ticket and they trust their judgment more (48% – 41%). But when it comes to bringing the right kind of change to Washington, the voter’s are split, – giving the Obama/Biden ticket a one-percent edge (44% – 43%).
The poll was conducted by Marketing Resource Group, Inc. (MRG) of Lansing, Michigan, between September 15 and 19. It sampled 600 likely voters in Michigan and has a statistical margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percent. MRG has been polling Michigan voters on political issues for more than 28 years.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=62816&cat=5
THANK YOU ADMIN…
its the choices you make, you’re a good leader…
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from noquarter:
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The email I just got.
Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.
Teddy Roosevelt
In 1901, as Vice President, the 42-year-old Roosevelt succeeded President William McKinley after McKinley’s assassination by anarchist Leon Czolgosz. He is the youngest person to become President. He was a Progressive reformer who sought to move the dominant Republican Party into the Progressive camp. He distrusted wealthy businessmen and dissolved forty monopolistic corporations as a “trust buster”. He was clear, however, to show he did not disagree with trusts and capitalism in principle but was only against corrupt, illegal practices. His “Square Deal” promised a fair shake for both the average citizen (through regulation of railroad rates and pure food and drugs) and the businessmen. He was the first U.S. president to call for universal health care and national health insurance.[5][6] As an outdoorsman, he promoted the conservation movement, emphasizing efficient use of natural resources. After 1906 he attacked big business and suggested the courts were biased against labor unions. In 1910, he broke with his friend and anointed successor William Howard Taft, but lost the Republican nomination to Taft and ran in the 1912 election on his own one-time Bull Moose ticket. He beat Taft in the popular vote and pulled so many Progressives out of the Republican Party that Democrat Woodrow Wilson won in 1912, and the conservative faction took control of the Republican Party for the next two decades. From Wikipedia
Thoughts?
Cross posted from the Hampster Cage at Partizane.com
US election: McCain makes political hay of financial crisis
John McCain today sought to use America’s credit crisis as a showcase for his presidential leadership skills for the second time in 24 hours, once again catching Barack Obama off-guard.
McCain made a dramatic arrival in Washington this morning for a scheduled meeting at the White House between George Bush and Democratic and Republican leaders meant to help Congress come to a deal on a $700bn bailout package.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/25/uselections2008.johnmccain
If all you have at this point is an agreement in principle then the language still needs to be worked out and in a policitically charged atmosphere the devil can be in the detail. Both of them need to be there, and Obamas reticence is now a matter of record.
I know I am far less savvy when it comes to politics than probably everyone on this board, but I am confounded by the blatant media bias. And the lack of attacks on the “do nothing” democratic congress by the Repubs. I am beginning to believe there may be truth to the conspiracy theories. After all they had to know this was coming and did nothing and in fact took vacations. People have lost thier homes due to thier inaction. For what so it could be timed to maximize its effect on the election? I was sickenned now I am numb. It just all seems so gamed. Sorry to vent.
Times and men’s fortunes change,” says Welch. “And we now are in a time of unprecedented difficulties.” Welch says the “misalignment between bonuses and shareowners and the public” calls for changing the rules on executive pay.
“I’m the first to admit I never thought I’d say
this,” he says.
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I have read his books and talked to his people. This guy is the mother of all cutthroat executives. The culture he set up in ge was deadly. He was the one who threw out the old nbc news management who were devoted to the truth in the tradition of its founder general sarnoff and gave us the money grubbing liars like capus who run nbc today. Now he decides executive bonuses are too high–that was never his mantra before. In Bejing they come from hundreds of miles away to hear him lecture, they stand on the floor, the crowd in the hallways they hang from the rafters to hear all the wisdom pouring forth from him. Cuthroat slash and burn management 901, and now he says it has gone too far. Thanks Jack–for everything. Keep sending those cards and letters/
A Terrible Scandal
JEWISH DIASPORA] Sarah Palin, the Republican Vice-Presidential candidate, was invited to speak at a protest demonstration outside the United Nations building. She, along with Hillary Clinton, was due to speak against the man who embodies the greatest threat to the survival of the Jewish people and the State of Israel – the Hitler of our time: Iran’s President Ahmedinijad.
A leftist organization, claiming to be pro-Israel and pro-Jewish, displayed a hatred of Republicans and of Sarah Palin and forced the organizers of the protest demonstration to disinvite Ms. Palin. They cared less about the worst threat to Jewish survival since the time of Hitler than to their left-wing hatred of Republicans. But this group, though consisting of Jews, was not pro-Jewish or pro-Israel by any stretch of the imagination; it was pro-Left. End of story.
At the same time, Senator Hillary Clinton, the failed Democrat presidential candidate, withdrew from the protest because she too could not bear to be seen speaking at the same meeting as a Republican woman politician. It seems in the twisted logic of the Left that only Democrat women politicians are acceptable, not Republican women
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http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=4/b/viii/250920081
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They’re still talking about this and it looks very bad for the Democratic? Taliban Party.
HUSSEIN obama is phony….a first grader knows how to identify yes or no..how the helll on this earth that this con artist does not know how to vote yes or no. he does not have the balls, so he casts his votes “present” all the time.
HRC 2012
wbboei Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 3:34 am
I believe you are right. I have gotten skewered for professing this on another blog. The scary thing in the end is that ALL networks are in the tank for the FRAUD… ALL. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US….1984…
wonder if this will work for the BHO ticket, and whether the news media will run with this as a campaign tactic…
embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/25/joe-motion-biden-tears-up-in-pennsylvania/
hmmm…after they trashed Hillary for “almost” tearing up during the primary, I wonder if they will give Biden a pass?
rjk1957 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
What is up with Halley Barber throwing mcCain under the bus by saying the debate will go on? As Governor he could pressure the University of MS to postpone it.
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Is he Repub?
Palin: ‘Every American’ should visit ground zero
by Jason Fink/The Jersey Journal
Thursday September 25, 2008, 2:34 PM
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, the Republican vice presidential nominee, toured ground zero yesterday, meeting with firefighters and visiting the Tribute WTC Visitor Center museum across the street from the site.
“I wish every American would come through here. I wish every world leader would come through here” Palin said. “And just to hear from and see these good New Yorkers, who are rebuilding not just this area, but are helping to rebuild America, is very inspiring.”
Palin was given a guided tour of the Tribute center — a small museum started by family members of 9/11 victims that displays photographs and artifacts of the terrorist attacks and their aftermath — by Lee Ielpi, the president of the Board of Directors of the September 11 Families Association.
Ielpi, whose son, a New York firefighter, was killed in the attacks, was one of the founders of the museum, which is funded by donations.
Palin told him that her parents came to New York right after 9/11 and volunteered at the Staten Island landfill where much of the wreckage was taken.
She spent 40 minutes inside the museum, about half of that trailed by photographers and reporters, and then toured privately with Ielpi and Jennifer Adams, CEO of the Tribute center.
“She was very moved, she was honored that we took the time to meet with her,” said Adams. “She was concerned about the recovery workers who are getting sick.”
After Palin left the Tribute center, she went to the family viewing area at the edge of the pit. She then shook hands and spoke with members of Ladder 10 and Engine 10, the firehouse directly across from the Trade Center, on Liberty Street.
“She was very personable, she was a little emotional,” said Firefighter John Morabito, who drove Ladder 10 to the Twin Towers on the morning of 9/11 and lost several of his crew members. “She was very friendly. I think she is actually a very decent person.”
Pressed on whether he would vote for Palin and the Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, Morabito smiled and said: “I think we’ll keep that under wraps for now.”
Palin’s day began at the Clinton Global Initiative at the Hilton Hotel in midtown Manhattan, where she watched McCain give a speech before heading to Washington to work on the $700 billion economic bailout package that President Bush has proposed.
As criticism of Palin continued to mount yesterday over her reluctance to take questions from members of the media, she spoke briefly with reporters on the sidewalk in front of the firehouse before heading to the airport.
Asked about the bailout legislation before Congress, she said, “I don’t support that until provisions that Sen. McCain has offered are implemented.”
She also answered questions about whether she agreed with Bush’s foreign policy since 9/11, expressing general support for the administration.
“I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security for our nation,” she said.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/09/_gov_sarah_palin_of.html
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I can tell liberal bias when they edit or take out of context Sarah’s quotes, like the last sentence.
What a difference between Obama’s attitude on 911 memorial day…no connection.
if I’m not mistaken Haley Barber was chairman of the RNC at one point…
Debbie- great story. I still love Joe even if he screwed over Anita Hill and is playing 2nd fiddle to a sociopathic thug like Dumbass.
Gonzo- Haley is a Republican. And he’s not throwing McCain under the bus. He just said it’s still on. Which it is until it’s not. Why someone stated that earlier I do not know. *slapping forehead*
gonzotx
yep, he was the RNC chairman before being elected gov.
Anybody have a link to Clinton’s “tearing up” during the NH primary
I want to forward the Biden story with it.
Agreed re: admin’s “ploy” comment. McCain cleverly accomplished two things by threatening to ditch Friday’s debate: first, he appears less partisan, and more interested in solving real problems, in the midst of an economic crisis. Second, he has raised the media profile of the debate, guaranteeing that more people will tune in, for what is a bad Friday-night time slot. He wants to increase viewership, and this is a sure-fire way to remind everyone that there’s a debate.
Should anyone else want the NH video of Clinton here it is
w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=MVlwH7-05Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDP0DFmQlRE
rjk1957 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
gonzotx
yep, he was the RNC chairman before being elected gov.
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Well that is the final proof the powers that be are all in the tank for the Fraud. I don’t see how McCain wins. The votes will be lost, stolen whatever. This is depressing
They did the same thing to Hillary and we still won….only thing that hurt us was the caucuses because you can fix them easier.
So, I don’t think the dems would be this upset and shrill about Gov. Palin if she wasn’t hurting them and since the RNC see that they have a star…they will continue to groom her for the future.
She is helping to bring back young women to the Republican party and I think that’s a good thing. This country works best from the center.
PALIN CONTACT STORY:
A friend of mine met Sarah Palin yesterday as she was coming from NY City yesterday. They were heading down the NJ Turnpike and pulled into the Exit 7 Sunoco statioin for air in their tires and directions to PA. He temporarily blanked on her name, so he said, “Hey, you’re the next Vice President of the United States”. I think she may have stepped out of the limo. Cindy McCain was with her too.
Pretty cool.
carbynew
what I am worried about are absentee votes by students. Can you mail in one from your home state and then vote where you are attending college? A young man told me he did exactly that in the primaries, albeit he registered twice before the deadline on the second.
Has the deadline passed in most states to register to vote in Nov?
Palin defends Alaska-Russia foreign policy remark
By AMY WESTFELDT – 15 minutes ago
NEW YORK (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin defended her remark that the close proximity of Russia to her home state of Alaska gives her foreign policy experience, explaining in a CBS interview airing Thursday that “we have trade missions back and forth.”
Palin has never visited Russia and until last year the 44-year-old Alaska governor had never traveled outside North America. She also had never met a foreign leader until her trip this week to New York. In the CBS interview, she did not offer any examples of having been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.
Palin’s foreign policy experience came up when she gave her first major interview, on Sept. 11 to ABC News. Asked what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, she said: “They’re our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”
The comment met with derision from Palin’s critics and was turned into a punch line for a “Saturday Night Live” skit featuring actress Tina Fey. Appearing as Palin, she proclaimed, “I can see Russia from my house!”
In the interview with CBS News anchor Katie Couric, Palin said: “It’s funny that a comment like that was, kind of made to … I don’t know, you know? Reporters …”
Couric said, “Mock?”
“Yeah,” Palin said, “mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.”
When Couric asked how Alaska’s closeness to Russia enhanced her foreign policy experience, Palin said, “Well, it certainly does because our … our next-door neighbors are foreign countries.” Alaska shares a border with Canada.
Palin didn’t answer directly when Couric inquired about whether she had been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.
“We have trade missions back and forth,” she replied. As she continued, Palin brought up Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.
“It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is — from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to … to our state,” she said.
Earlier Thursday, Palin held a rare exchange with reporters outside a ground zero firehouse in New York, and declined to endorse the candidacy of indicted Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens. On trial for seven counts of making false statements stemming from allegations that he concealed gifts on Senate financial documents, Stevens is running for re-election to retain the seat he has held since 1968.
When a reporter asked Palin if she supports the re-election of Stevens, she replied: “Ted Stevens’ trial started a couple of days ago. We’ll see where that goes.”
Outside the firehouse just across from the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Palin took just a handful of questions from reporters. She has yet to have a news conference in the four weeks since Republican presidential candidate John McCain chose her to be his running mate and has submitted to only three major interviews — with ABC, Fox News and CBS.
Palin was asked if she thought the U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan was helping to mitigate terrorism
“I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security for our nation. We can never again let them onto our soil,” she said.
In keeping with McCain’s decision to halt his campaign activities to deal with the financial markets rescue plan being negotiated by Congress and the Bush administration, Palin was heading to Philadelphia but not planning any events for the day, the campaign said.
Wrapping up a trip to New York, the Alaska governor toured a visitors center dedicated to those who lost their lives in the 2001 attacks. She later walked past a bronze memorial built into the wall of a firehouse, which commemorates the 343 firefighters who died on Sept. 11. She touched the wall several times.
“To come here and see these good New Yorkers who are not only rebuilding this area but rebuilding America, it’s very inspiring,” she told reporters.
Palin asked several questions during the tour about progress rebuilding the trade center site, victims’ families and particularly the health problems suffered by ground zero workers, said Jennifer Adams, CEO of the tribute center. Health advocates believe thousands of people became ill from exposure to toxic dust from the ruins of the trade center site.
Palin’s parents went to New York in January 2002 to help control the rat population in Staten Island’s Fresh Kills landfill as part-time contract workers with the Agriculture Department, her mother, Sally Heath, told The Associated Press on Thursday.
Their task for two weeks was to control the rats so that they did not disturb the debris from the World Trade Center that was being brought there and searched by forensic teams for human remains.
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h21ZbzgPbTVRftcJPT5vkHkonY5QD93DUQV81
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Why is it that east coasters think only they understand foreign policy?
I’m from the CA and there is such bias on intellect back east…I find it interesting how people on the East Coast are clueless about what is happening on the West Coast.
Just Clueless.
# gonzotx Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Well that is the final proof the powers that be are all in the tank for the Fraud. I don’t see how McCain wins. The votes will be lost, stolen whatever. This is depressing
HUH? What are you saying?That makes no sense. Barbour and McCain are the same party. Barbour is a team player. He’s not with Dumbass. Trust me on this one. He’s definitely Team McCain.
The MSM and the European media has crossed a line…by mocking our religious beliefs.
VIDEO LINK: Palin blessed free from witchcraft
EXTERNAL LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
By The Associated Press
Story Created: Sep 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM EDT
Story Updated: Sep 25, 2008 at 4:00 PM EDT
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) – A YouTube video shows Sarah Palin being blessed in her church three years ago by a Kenyan pastor who prayed for her protection from witchcraft as she prepared to seek higher office.
The video shows Palin standing before Bishop Thomas Muthee in Wasilla Assembly of God with her head bowed as he asks God “in the name of Jesus” to “save her from Satan” and “use her to turn this nation.”
The date of the sermon listed on the church Web site is October 16th, 2005. Palin announced her gubernatorial bid two days later and was elected the next year. The Republican vice presidential nominee was baptized at the church, but stopped attending regularly in 2002.
http://www.winknews.com/news/campaign/29757469.html
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Why the AP picked up this story and other here when they know this is typical in this country and religous freedom is one of our fundamental rights.
Keep this up and the Democrats are going to lose a lot of voters.
You know I like Gov Palin even though I don’t agree with her politics. Plus I sympathize with how the press has treated her like crap. But what does this mean? “It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is — from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to … to our state,” she said. It’s not really coherent. I’m not bashing her because gaffe machine Biden rolls out a whopper every hour. But she needs to get better at expressing herself in these interviews. Or her handlers need to better prepare her. The MSM is already against her so she doesn’t need to give them more reasons to hammer on her intelligence or experience. Hopefully she will have improved by the debate.
carbynew
just a thought but I think it may have something to do with the film industry. Or arts in general. Hollywood is percieved as fluff while NY films are often introspective. LA is not CA anymore than NYC is NY.
Is there a national deadline for registering to vote for the GE? Or is it state by state?
McCain will win this unless there is a freak accident ala “King Ralph” and Hillary substitutes on the ballot.
BTW- I wanted to point out in the Guardian link Dumbass is quoted as saying,
“”The American people deserve to hear directly from myself and Senator McCain about how we intend to lead our country. The times are too serious to put our campaign on hold, or to ignore the full range of issues that the next president will face.”
His quote, I think, perfectly demonstrates how stupid and egotistical he is.
First, he fails to grasp the concept that leaders lead they don’t just speak. The myth of America is that we are all doers when in fact there are asshats like Dumbass who think talking gets the job done. Nope. Sorry. Thanks for playing. We have some nice parting prizes.
Second, he cannot know the full breadth of how bad this crisis is unless he is there for the meetings. Insulating himself with his paid sycophants who are not even part of the solution and in some cases were part of the problem, accomplishes nothing. Get yer ass down their and talk to people. Ask questions. And for crissakes realize it’s not about the election- it’s about the solutions, idiot.
Her politics suck, but on her worst day she is better than Obama…
i have a little happy story. i went on one of my non-political blogs, and they were talking about supreme court justices, i decided to end my comment with this shoutout,
‘HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR MCCAIN/PALIN 08′
well a little while ago, i went back to the site, to add comments about something, and there was a private message for me in my box. it was a guy who is a regular, and he said he was a hillary supporter too, he said he was unsure what he would do in the election. he hates obama, but he’s worried about supreme justices. i told him to read 44 for a few days, and see what other hillary supporters are saying about obama and mccain…
i’m going end everything, with the hillary supporter shout out to mccain. never know when someone is a possible convert…
OkieAtty Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm HUH? What are you saying?That makes no sense. Barbour and McCain are the same party. Barbour is a team player. He’s not with Dumbass. Trust me on this one. He’s definitely Team McCain.
rjk1957 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
What is up with Halley Barber throwing mcCain under the bus by saying the debate will go on? As Governor he could pressure the University of MS to postpone it.
Nikki- Dumbass’s “uh-uh-uh’s” are edited out of the quotes. Longstanding bias demonstrated all over the web. They are not polishing Palin the same way they polish Dumbass’ knob.
Henry- election laws are state by state. http://www.declareyourself.com/voting_faq/state_by_state_info_2.html
henry, here in TX we have til Oct 4th to register. Lots of states are still registering:
http://www.rockthevote.com/voting-is-easy/important-dates/
nikki22 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
she needs to tout that she is indeed the CIC of the National Guard of AK, which is inded the front line when it comes to Russia
OkieAtty
Can it be election day?
OkieAtty
thanks for the link. Answered my question.
OT:
Robert Slater’s biography on Soros has been updated and a new edition is coming out next January titled:
Soros: the life, ideas, and impact of the world’s most influential investor.
O’REILLY on the radio went OFF on both the Republicans and the Democrats over this crisis. He defended BILL CLINTON! O’ Reilly is right for once. BOTH parties protected their turf (the Repubs protected the big banks, and the Dems protected Fannie and Freddie)
NONE OF THEM protected the public interest.
Listen to this – for once I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH BILL O!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDou01X5d28
HillaryforTexas
didn’t hear the O’Reilly broadcast as I have lumped him into the tank. The way he permitted bambi to touch his leg several times during his in depth interview made me wretch. When does a Presedential nominee in what was billed as his most aggressive interview reach out and touch the interviewer. GROSS. If I was doing a cut to the chase interview and my interviewee touched my leg I”d call him on it. Unless of course it sent a tingle down my leg!!
Thank you admin for you wise and timely support for those of us that support Hillary and only want the best for the smartest woman politician of our time.She worked her heart out for her country and her party and the DNC and the HUSTLER have cheated her out of the candidacy that she earned with blood sweat and tears.I use these words to honor Hillary for withstanding the onslaught of her fellow senators that she spent time and canpaigned for with great results.We must remember to turn them out of office in their next attempt to retain seats. I totally agree now that she would serve us better as the senator from NY without the perils of being SML and the target again of these ungrateful vermin that have followed the orders of the party leaders to nominate The Hustler and avoid the threats of civil unrest if he is not elected.Our country is now under siege from within and without but we still have Hillary and Bill to guide us through this mess.I hope that many of you dems that questioned Hillary’s intentions for supporting THe Party even if it took the disgusting support of The Hustler will now realize that she will rise to fight on another day FOR US.I may not make it to 2012 bu I sure will not give up trying.
By ABM90. With you all the way Hillary
Gonzo, there’s no reason for him to pressure. If McCain cancels, he cancels. Period. Dumbass would release a crappy statement and the press will yell, “Next story.”
Henry- the latest deadline I know of is Connecticut- 1 day prior to an election.
OkieAtty Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Gonzo, there’s no reason for him to pressure. If McCain cancels, he cancels. Period. Dumbass would release a crappy statement and the press will yell, “Next story.”
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I agree, everyone is acting like the debate is more important. Only in America
McCain to do round of network interviews tonight
John McCain will appear on all three network newscasts tonight, a top aide said.
McCain is at the White House meeting with President Bush, Barack Obama and congressional leaders now and will tape interviews with NBC, ABC and CBS after the West Wing session.
McCain also appeared in a taped interview last night with Katie Couric on CBS.
Aides are still in wait-and-see mode on whether they’ll attend the debate, but are prepared to have the candidate jet down to Memphis, the closest major airport to Oxford, as late as tomorrow afternoon if a deal is reached.
OkieAtty
once again thankyou.
Henry- I double checked and Maine and Wyoming can be same day but in your own ton hall or precinct. Seeing how both are very sparsely populated and folks aren’t exactly going to let strangers by in registering since they know everyone, I’m guessing this hardly gets abused by would-be fraudulent voters.
Palin to reveal her finances after the debate:
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h4mRsdq8NbF7h4a0da8W64D-suoQD93DQHCG0
Why hasn’t anyone thought to simply change the debate topic whether it’s held Friday or Monday? The economy is most relevant to voters right now not foreign policy. They could even maybe change the format to a townhall. It could still be at Ole Miss just modified to reflect current events.
Nikki, Dumbass’ head cannot hold that many memory chips. Robots only have so many PCI slots.
Anyone have an idiots guide to the bailout
to me 700billion just seems so extreme. homeowners refinancing beyond thier means created this?
OkieAtty
I am in Pittsburgh
If McCain unsuspends- he ought to pounce on the “They can call me” statement by Dumbass. Do an ad and call it “Phoning It In.” Or Crisis Management By Dominoes.”
You cannot phone in crisis management be it economics, national security, or some other emergency legislation. And like Hillary said- at 3am, who do you trust to answer the call?
Fox was showing the pictures at the WH with Bush and others. I kept trying to picture Hillary there instead of Obama and everytime saw her overshadowing the clown Pelosi and Reid and of course, Bush. The Princess was sitting there hunched over with no presence in the room.
Looks like Blagojevich is the next one to go down.
Betcha he’s the one who rolls on Obama.
Sarah spending the next few days in Philadelphia the heart of Obama’s PA base of support.
Henry- hubby says it goes back to the bankruptcy bill, but in truth farther. In a nutshell, Fannie/Freddie got to lax in reviewing loans they bought from local banks and mortgage companies. Since they’re federal, they are guaranteed loans. So when they sell them on (industry practice is A gives the loan then sells the loan to B then C buys from B, etc.. They do this in bundles of “graded” paper- A credit, B credit, etc.. The better the credit, the better the price on selling the loan bc the risk isn’t as great for an A than for a C.). So, F/F sell off the bad loans they’ve bought based upon their reputation and the new buyers- Goldman, Lehman, etc. don’t really review them because F/F is doing the selling and the govt (actually govt sponsored) never fucks anyone over, right? Problem is the guy running the show has promised huge returns for and is lax in the paper review/accounting bc the more paper they buy and sell, the more fees they get from the front end. So they pass on the bad risks to others who then start to see huge defaults when these bad loans- many ARM’s (adjustable rate mortages)- start to increase payments of borrowers beyond their means.
Now move back up stream to before F/F buy-ups- the local banks and lenders are going nutso writing paper. They’re refi’ing everything they can- and it builds and artificial job market which must be supported by more and more loans being written, bundled and sold to F/F who then bundle and send down stream to hedge funds and huge finance firms looking to diversify. Real estate seems safe bc it’s collateralized but- the buy-sell-buy-sell boom has artificially inflated markets (bc everyone is buying it became a sellers market and demand inflates prices) so the actual value of the real estate is less than the loan value and what the mark-up was on the paper purchased from F/F.
So- the Federal Reserve has been dropping rates meant for banks- not the average Joe- and local lenders sucked folks in who were greedy in trying to save a buck. Unscrupulous lenders faked financial reports for borrowers making them look like better risks than they were, unscrupulous real estate agents forced sales to folks who were never qualified, and appraisers inflated values so loan values could be met so everyone in the transaction could get paid. Once the closing was over and everyone got their check- the loans were bundled up and sold off making it someone else’s problem when the brokeass borrower who should never have received a loan defaults on a house worth only maybe half of what he bought it for.
Anyhow- hope that helps a little.
It’s not the whole thing, but getting into hedge funds and why 401k’s are worth less may give me a heart attack at the moment.
Idunn, that’d be sweet. I google news’ed it after your post. He’s in deep doo doo.
Nice to also see his veto of ethics legislation. That’s priceless!
Lawmakers in Illinois Make Ethics Top Priority
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By SUSAN SAULNY
Published: September 24, 2008
CHICAGO — In this state with a history of corruption at the highest levels of government and little history of meaningful reform, lawmakers and the governor have embarked on a sudden, surprising scurry to enact ethics legislation this week.
And while Illinois should soon have at least one new ethics law on its books as a result, a backbiting political drama has come along with it, exposing questionable maneuvering in what state officials themselves call one of the most dysfunctional state governments in the nation.
On Monday, the State Senate voted unanimously to overturn Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich’s veto of a bill that barred companies seeking or holding state contracts worth more than $50,000 from making campaign contributions to top elected officials who control contracts, like the governor.
The law, three years in the making, takes aim at “pay-to-play” politics, in which companies are expected to donate money to politicians in order to work for the state, a longstanding affliction here.
The veto override was a strong rebuke to aspects of Mr. Blagojevich’s administration that became public in the recent corruption trial of Antoin Rezko, one of the governor’s top fund-raisers and a former patron of Senator Barack Obama. Even before the trial, Mr. Blagojevich’s administration was embroiled in a federal investigation into hiring fraud in several departments.
Mr. Obama, ever aware of Illinois’ reputation, is credited with spurring the State Senate to action, with a phone call to its leader last week urging swift movement of the bill. The override of the veto passed, 55 to 0. That bill is to become law in the new year.
Mr. Blagojevich, a Democrat, technically did not veto the bill outright, but rather added his own ethical reform measures to it. Those measures then became the basis for the governor’s own new ethics legislation.
On Tuesday, the Senate overwhelmingly approved Mr. Blagojevich’s bill, which focuses more on them than on him and was essentially a repackaged version of what they had heartily rejected on Monday.
Many in and out of Springfield were left scratching their heads.
“It was like being in ‘The Twilight Zone,’ ” said Cynthia Canary, director of the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform, who has long advocated for a ban on political contributions from contractors. “It’s really a kind of study in state meltdown.”
Given the public’s appetite for ethics reform, some lawmakers who disagreed with the Blagojevich-backed bill said they had voted for it anyway so as not to have to explain rejecting any kind of reform to voters.
Further, some said they were certain that it would die in the House, where the leader, John A. Fritchey, chief sponsor of the original bill, is openly disdainful of the governor.
“To vote against it, I’d be explaining that forever,” said Senator Rickey R. Hendon, a Democrat who voted to override the governor’s veto and for the governor’s reform package. “I don’t want to deal with any of that.”
“We’re confusing everybody,” he added. “That’s the way they play the game here in Illinois.”
Mr. Fritchey, a Democrat, predicts a certain death for Mr. Blagojevich’s package, which includes heightened lobbying disclosure requirements, a ban on legislators working other government jobs and a requirement that legislators affirmatively vote for their own pay raises.
“The vote by the Senate was a convenient political dodge that allowed Illinois senators to tell their constituents that they voted for a supposedly stronger ethics bill despite knowing that what they passed will never become law,” Mr. Fritchey said. “It’s not only poorly drafted but frankly unconstitutional.”
Mr. Fritchey and others did say that they thought some of the governor’s ideas had merit, just not in their present form.
But Mr. Blagojevich does not see it that way. “Regardless of what they think the motives are, most people would agree with what the results and effect is,” said his spokesman, Lucio Guerrero. “I don’t think anyone would say there’s enough ethics law in Illinois.”
ADMIN,
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
OKAY, TRY THIS ONE INSTEAD… sorry:)
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMouthPeace
I hadn’t seen that article, Okie.
Pretty funny.
Henry- okay- next part- so the bailout isn’t just about homeowners. It’s about cheap credit that was sent around everywhere. Companies used it to expand, small businesses started, etc.. And instead of following time tested rules generated from similar meltdowns through history, bad risks were taken. The bankruptcy bill only perpetuated the cycle of bad debt unfortunately.
So now- what’s with the $700B- easy- the US govt is buying the collateralized debt. Some of the money like with AIG will be paid back, most will not and the feds will then get to own your home if you’re in hock and losing your house. This makes the bankruptcy stuff worse bc the federal government is not dimissable in bankruptcy. If you were to file for bankruptcy and would normally qualify for a liquidation bc things are just SO bad, you won’t get to include any overage on a foreclosure. So, you buy a house for $300K. It’s actually worth $150K. Foreclosure happens- sheriff’s sale- and the house sells at auction for $100K- You still owe $200K to the US govt. in theory. FOREVER. Neat, huh?
So, let’s see how they structure the bailout so we can figure out what it is, what companies are involved, what property might be involved and what taxpayers will actually pay. Once we get details, then we’ll know more about what they are rescuing.
Going home now. Later.
nikki22 Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
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Huh? Isn’t that sort of backwards? Taking care of a crisis in the real world is exactly what a President should do. Campaigning is much less important.
McCain probably could hop a plane, land on the studio roof, and out-debate Obama. It is Obama who needs days of prep and rehearsal. That is why McCain’s suspension of his own campaign was a good gesture: to allow Obama to concentrate on the financial problem so they could both give their best input to the decision of Congress.
I like it that McCain simply ACTED: suspended his ads etc unilaterallly. Rather than take time to negotiate the terms of a time-out or even play phone tag.
There’s more to a campaign than just the debate. By suspending everything — ads, fundraising, stumping, etc — he gave himself and Obama a chance to give their FULL attention to the crisis for a few days.
great article admin…im with neetabug lil hillary or bill in admin lol….
obama will loose all red states like wyo mt nd ones where he had those fake cacus and sd all will vote mccain…Hill supporters wont budge for obama here yipeeee
This thing with IL Gov. blagevich is taking too long in my opinion..
even delaying the sentencing of Rezko was something I cannot understand…
admin Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Nikki22, it is funny how Big Media will label somethings “ploys” and ignore other “ploys”.
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you know what I think is funny/ironic is here is obama and his camp going on and on about ‘a president being able to do more than one thing at a time…and must be able to do many things,’ etc…
…and the reality is that Obama has been holed up in Clearwater, Florida at an exclusive hotel/golf course for most of this week ’studying’ for his exam, er, debate…
and then he has to be asked back to washington to work on the ‘financial Pearl Harbor’ of our lifetime…
he should be getting pounded by the press for having the audacity to ‘go on vacation’ and taking the luxury of days on end to study for a debate when there is such serious work to do…
where is the outrage about that???
this guy is always missing in action when needed
The Hustler is fast and loose with his hands.He wants to known as a hands on Pres.He is a feeler and does it to excess.I have noticed How he loves to touch and kiss white gals but only gives a hafasst hug or touch to his Black gals.He is one misfit we can do without or this country will be in no position to fight the many small and large complex issues that he will face and the large problems he will generate as CIC.Lots of red lights are about to start flashing.
By ABM 90
neetabug Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
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It was the fact that he did not come out in clear support of McCain… He had an opportunity to say JM was putting Country before Party and that’s what Presidents do, and Ole MISS will be ready when ever the opportunity arises.
We’ll call bambi ….
Okie said: So now- what’s with the $700B- easy- the US govt is buying the collateralized debt. Some of the money like with AIG will be paid back, most will not and the feds will then get to own your home if you’re in hock and losing your house. This makes the bankruptcy stuff worse bc the federal government is not dimissable in bankruptcy. If you were to file for bankruptcy and would normally qualify for a liquidation bc things are just SO bad, you won’t get to include any overage on a foreclosure. So, you buy a house for $300K. It’s actually worth $150K. Foreclosure happens- sheriff’s sale- and the house sells at auction for $100K- You still owe $200K to the US govt. in theory. FOREVER.
OUCH. And it was your tax money the government used to buy the mortgage in the first place. So for the house you lost, you’re still paying the inflated difference TWICE: directly to the government as morgage holder, AND the bill they are sending you for back taxes.
As for borrowers, there’s a set of them who could have qualified for a conventional, fixed-rate mortgage, but were sold the risky kind instead because it made more money in commissions for the middlemen. Imo in those cases the mortgage should revert to conventional terms with credit to the buyers for existing overpayments, and some of teh cost taken out of the hides of the middlemen.
Hillary as usual has got the key, and is putting it right up front as the title of her WSJ op-ed: “Let’s keep people in their homes.”
OkieAtty Says: If McCain unsuspends- he ought to pounce on the “They can call me” statement by Dumbass. Do an ad and call it “Phoning It In.” Or Crisis Management By Dominoes.”
You cannot phone in crisis management be it economics, national security, or some other emergency legislation. And like Hillary said- at 3am, who do you trust to answer the call?
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I always figured Obama would answer and waffle. This looks like he wouldn’t even take the call!
Ok now she really has gone too far, Obama is in bed with total terror sympatisers.
Obama Bundler and $40K Donor Jodie Evans: Ahmadinejad “Really About Peace and Human Rights”
Jodie Evans, a bundler and personal donor of over forty thousand dollars to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois told Fox News today that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is “really about peace and human rights and respecting justice.”
Evans met with the leader of the terrorist nation last night in New York City at a meeting of Marxist anti-American groups who have been campaigning to stop Western interference in Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons development program.
Ahmadinejad has spoken repeatedly of wiping Israel off the map and his government has trained and funded terrorist who wage war in Iraq on Americans and free Iraqis.
In the interview with Fox, Evans downplayed her role in the Obama campaign as stemming from her husband, Beverly Hills billionaire Max Palevsky, who she says knows Obama from Chicago.
Evans is listed on the official Obama website as a bundler of between $50,000 and $100,000. She has been listed there since Obama published his list of bundlers.
FEC records and other public sources show that Evans has contributed $40,550 to Obama for America and the Obama Victory Fund. $38,250 of that amount has been given by Evans within the past three months. $4600 of the $40k was given to the primary and general election funds of Obama for America, with the balance given to the joint Obama-DNC fund, the Obama Victory Fund.
Evans has been a key part of Obama’s campaign from its beginning, having co-hosted Obama’s breakout Hollywood fundraiser in February 2007.
Obama has ignored calls by military families and troop support organizations to disavow Evans over her pro-terrorist politics which include her giving aid and comfort to the terrorists in Iraq and working with state sponsors of terrorism to undermine the United States in the war on terror.
Evans told Fox that she knows Obama and speaks with him at ‘public events’ which are actually exclusive high dollar fundraisers:
“Every time I see Obama I give him a hard time on his stance on the war,” she said. “There’s no such thing as a good war. I wouldn’t say I’m a supporter. I’m definitely a thorn in his side keeping him on the right path about war.”
Evans has publicly endorsed Obama on her MyBarackObama webpage and in a letter signed by leftist New York feminists in February 2008 and in a letter published by The Nation magazine in July 2008.
elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/25/activists-talk-love-not-war-with-iranian-president/
from the LA Times :
McCain kept his promise to address the annual meeting in the Big Apple of the Clinton Global Initiative, founded to fight malaria, global warming, poverty and other ills that know no borders. McCain’s wife, Cindy, and his running mate, Sarah Palin, came along to lend support.
The Times’ Bob Drogin also was there, and he reports, that Clinton was effusive in his introduction, saying he was “personally profoundly honored” and “profoundly grateful” that McCain showed up.
Obama, he noted less warmly, would speak to the group later by satellite feed from Florida, where he’s been encamped for prep sessions for the Friday debate that may or may not take place.
Brit Hume on Fox just let the Fraud smera JM and try to take credit for pulling the coalition together to address the crisis. Oncw again Fox news is in the tank for the Fraud
LAMusing // September 25, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Portia Elizabeth // September 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I know – I was speechless. His Smirkiness’s story was that he was busy running things but if McC had anything useful to offer (his tone implying it was unlikely), well, sure we’ll give him a listen . His whole attitude was we adults are dealing with the problem, but if little boy McCain wants to get in the way, we’ll allow it… to a point.
Fox News: JIM JOHNSON STILL WORKS FOR OBAMA
Former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson STILL advising Obama, Further this was reported by e-mail from Tom Daschle to Democrat insiders to see updates daily on political progress from the campaign, by Tom Daschel and Jim Johnson. Gibson also reported today that Franklin Raines was still advising Obama on housing! As you all well know that Jim Johnson was in charge of Fannie Mae with Franklin Raines. They also were paid very well with Johnson getting in excess of 20 million dollars and Franklin Raines getting 90 million dollars in executive pay.
Fox Brit Hume let the Fraud get away with trying to claim HE was behind the coalition to get the crsis dealt with, Fox is in the bed with the Fraud, I believe that with all my heart. They have left Hannity and a few others alone, but you can see, and hear the ‘change’. 1984 is a coming.
LAMusing // September 25, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Portia Elizabeth // September 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I know – I was speechless. His Smirkiness’s story was that he was busy running things but if McC had anything useful to offer (his tone implying it was unlikely), well, sure we’ll give him a listen . His whole attitude was we adults are dealing with the problem, but if little boy McCain wants to get in the way, we’ll allow it… to a point.
test
my post are not posting foe some reason. Anyway, Brit Hume just let the Fraud take credit for the work being done on the crisis. Fox is in the tank…1984
No Brit hume is in the tank, has been a long time.
Thiis 100K garden in Obama’s earmarks is hilarious, 65K for ground prep, they are barking.
The money quote :
The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.
Right………………………..
Charlie Gibson interviewed McCain tonight.
GIBSON: Do we have a debate tomorrow night?
MCCAIN: Well I’m hopeful, very hopeful that we can. I believe that it’s very possible that we can get an agreement so that — in time for me to fly to Mississippi. I understand that there is a lot of attention on this but I also wish Senator Obama had agreed to ten or more town hall meetings that I had asked him to attend with me. Wouldn’t be quite that much urgency if he agreed to do that, instead he refused to do it.
Nice, nice shot, Senator McCain
GIBSON: Senator, do we have an agreement on legislation to address this problem?
MCCAIN: We do not, but I am very hopeful that we are making progress and I know we are making progress. I have talked to many of my colleagues today and had conversations with them, talked about this issue and have no doubt about the crisis we are facing. We’re talking about jobs all over America, we’re talking about loans, we’re talking about ability of small businesses to stay in operation. And my colleagues are aware of that, and I’m confident that we’re going to move forward and get this issue in a bipartisan agreement which is what the American people want.
Sen Dodd is gasoline on the fire, just look at his campaign contributions tells you who he really works for.
http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2008/09/25/opinion/368111.txt
As a member and later chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Sen. Christopher J. Dodd shoulders a good deal of the blame for the collapse of the national housing market, the subprime-mortgage-market meltdown and the latest convulsions on Wall Street.
Reams of legislation he has written or advocated affecting the housing, lending, insurance and securities industries have drained hundreds of billions out of the economy, ballooned the federal debt, cost tens of thousands of people their jobs and driven hundreds of thousands of homeowners into foreclosure, bankruptcy or both. For his efforts, Sen. Dodd has been rewarded in the 2008 election cycle with $7.65 million in campaign contributions — he took in $11.7 million in all — from the securities, insurance, real-estate and commercial-banking industries, according to his latest Federal Election Commission filing posted at opensecrets.org.
Sen. Dodd’s list of donors reads like a who’s who of who’s in the stew: Citigroup, $310,294; SAC Capital Partners, $282,000; United Technologies, $263,400; AIG, $224,678; Bear Stearns, $205,600; St. Paul Travelers, $205,400; Royal Bank of Scotland, $203,750; Goldman Sachs, $175,600; Morgan Stanley, $155,000; Credit Suisse, $154,550; Merrill Lynch, $134,950; JPMorgan Chase, $129,150; Lehman Brothers, $128,400; KPMG, $113,100; General Electric, $108,250; Deloitte Touche, $108,000; USB, $101,900; Hartford Finance Services, $101,500; The Hartford, $94,350; Bank of America, $91,300.
With $165,400, Sen. Dodd also tops the list of members of Congress who took campaign cash from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 1989. Sen. Barack Obama, the self-styled agent of change, is a distant second at $126,000 and Sen. John Kerry is third at $111,000. In the top 20 are Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Obviously, Sen. Dodd had plenty of buyers for the influence he was peddling. And without so much as a thought to the potential devastating economic consequences of his actions, he sold his soul, and sold out his constituents and country. In return, he saved $75,000 on two VIP mortgages from Countrywide Financial.
Long after the horses had left the barn, Sen. Dodd now pledges to “continue to work on solutions to help Americans weather this storm, including strengthening the housing sector, developing a second stimulus package and restructuring the regulation of the financial sector.”
To which we say: Haven’t you done enough damage?
How is it that the house republicans want more protection for tax payers and blocking Paulson and the Dems are dancing around saying they have a deal?
Princess O is going around saying McCain is injecting presidential politics into delicate negotiations and his minions are lapping it up. He is the miracle worker; why can’t he reign everybody in and put forward ideas acceptable to everybody? If he can’t do this with this crowd how is he going to work with people like Ahmedinajad?
I think this really needs Pres politics, one of them will inherit this, so yes, Obama get your ass involved, it could be your mess to sort out, you arrogant douchebag.
Okay, this is the lunatic fringe who are backing Obama. No way in hell am I putting my country in their hands:
Obama Bundler and $40K Donor Jodie Evans: Ahmadinejad “Really About Peace and Human Rights”
Jodie Evans, a bundler and personal donor of over forty thousand dollars to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois told Fox News today that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is “really about peace and human rights and respecting justice.”
Okaaaaay. These people are fucking insane.
Sen. Dudd:
And now he says he has been workingn for the last 7 days and he is TIRED!!!!
Eff you Dudd!!!
THE BIGGEST DEM CULPRIT is DODD!!!!
remember what he said in the debates…
I know H4T its total insanity, he’s up to his neck in weirdo’s and looneys and no bastard is batting an eyelid like its normal.
moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
No Brit hume is in the tank, has been a long time.
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Murdoch must be behind all of this…I heard some of his kids support Obama and that he liked him
S Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
No Brit hume is in the tank, has been a long time.
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Murdoch must be behind all of this…I heard some of his kids support Obama and that he liked him
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Of course he is, it’s all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
moon, I’d like to see Jody fucking Evans sent to live in Iran. Let her get arrested for showing an ankle, let her get beaten and jailed for “disrespecting” a man. Let her go live in that country that is “all about human rights”, and see how long her fat pink ass would last.
I agree…looks like murdoch is in the tank…and I guess his employees are towing the line corporate line…
ABC News: Deal May Be Dead: Democrats Blaming McCain
The Dems are blowing it up in their faces, the American public are not happy about this bill and the Dem party is whining that McCain is not going to let them have their way, Big ole nasty McCain. Well when i bet you read through the bill its full of so much heavy pork it would sink Manhattan island.
After days of intense bipartisan negotiations and meetings today at the White House, the deal to bail out staggered investment banks may be dying amid partisan finger-pointing.
Republicans blame Democrats. Democrats blame Republicans, and a key Democrat even pointed a finger at Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain.
House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., told Democratic colleagues that McCain’s sudden heightened involvement in the negotiations has destroyed chance of an agreement, sources told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
Frank compared McCain’s involvement to “Richard Nixon blowing up the Vietnam peace talks in 1968.”
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I wouldnt go down this line Barney, most Americans do not want this bill at all, so you need to temper yourself.
Murdoch actually said Obama and his 60s solutions were bad for economy on Cavuto may be three or four days ago. He is not in the tank for O.
The worlds gone insane.
It is bizarre when the Dems are agreeing w/ Pres. Bush on this and the Republicans are fighting it. LOL, I have never seen anything like it.
And to top it all of B Clinton is sticking up for McCain.
You can’t make this stuff up. Although the Dems are being suckered and dont even know it.
So they slam McCain as Bush’s 3rd term and the Dems just destroyed their own argument when they side with Bush and McCain opposes his bailout, unreal, punked and don’t even know it.
Brit Hume craves his colleagues’ at other networks approbation and therefore, goes overboard to be objective.
Have McCain and his surrogates talking about what is wrong with the current Paulson’s plan? What is unacceptable to them? I don’t think they should let O and his minions characterize their fight for the tax payers as deal breakers if that is what their objections are about.
moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
It is bizarre when the Dems are agreeing w/ Pres. Bush on this and the Republicans are fighting it. LOL, I have never seen anything like it.
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Yep, why are they siding with Bush? and giving him a blank check?
Moon, the only thing McCain “blew up” was the chances of Frank and Dodd to shove their own malfeasance under the rug so fast that the public wouldn’t know the details. So yeah, Frank is pissed, and Pelosi needs the smelling salts, because they wanted to roll over for Bush and get the attention off Fannie and Freddie, and McCain is having none of it.
The Dems have majority in both houses, if they wanted to, they could ram this bill through like they have done before, something tells me, theres loads od dems saying No and they are scrambling for a way out.
This is akin to a boil and someone just lanced it and now the pus is seeping out and it stinks to high hell.
gonzotx Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Fox Brit Hume let the Fraud get away with trying to claim HE was behind the coalition to get the crsis dealt with, Fox is in the bed with the Fraud, I believe that with all my heart. They have left Hannity and a few others alone, but you can see, and hear the ‘change’. 1984 is a coming.
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But then how can he criticize McCain of injecting presidential politics into this..
Bush is now saying that all he want is a deal and is willing to take a look at any and all plans.
I just think Barney Frank and Chris Dodd where talking to Paulson and convince him to agree with this socialist plan and thought he was going to get the deal…then the Dems blowing up smoke and going against the people of this country without talking about plan b, c or d. It was all or nothing.
What type of leadership is that and then I find out it’s all bad credit not just housing, but student loans and boat, cars…whatever throw in a pony why don’t you…this is CORPORATE WELFARE tied to our economy.
The way the Democrats Leadership was framing this..as socialist taking over the banks….I didn’t want to believe it but I’m just getting bad vibes and too much protesting from the other “partner in crimes”–Democrats.
Group boosts voter registration in Hidalgo County
Falls short of original goal
September 25, 2008 – 6:22PM
Jackie Leatherman
A national Latino voter registration group hasn’t even met one-quarter of its original goal to sign up 25,000 Rio Grande Valley residents for voting by the Nov. 4 election.
The Southwest Voter Registration Education Project has registered 5,181 voters as of Monday, according to a news release from the group. The effort is part of the group’s “My Valley, My Vote” initiative that encourages election involvement. The last day to register to vote in Hidalgo County is Oct. 6.
Alan Fiszman, the project’s spokesman, said lack of funding caused the group to scale back its goal to 7,500.
Valley construction magnate Alonzo Cantu donated money to help the group reach the new goal, Fiszman said, adding that if additional donations had been secured, the group could have increased the number of registered voters.
The project enlisted the help of local banks, hospitals, paid coordinators and volunteers to offer registration cards to customers and to attend high schools and community events to solicit new voters.
The group deputized up to 40 volunteers to register voters.
The Hidalgo County Elections Department has deputized 539 residents this year, far more than years past, said Belinda Sagredo, a voter registration assistant with the county.
Sagredo said the group’s efforts have helped push the county’s total voters to nearly 300,000.
In March, there were 290,454 registered voters.
Presidential nominees have consistently singled out the Latino community by trying to garner votes with Spanish advertisements throughout the past year.
Hispanics are the fastest-growing population in the United States, according to the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan political research organization.
Hispanic registered voters favored Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama over his Republican counterpart, John McCain, by 66 percent, according to a July report from Pew.
In the Valley, former Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., beat Obama by a landslide in the primary.
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/group_17826___article.html/voters_county.html
Sarah Palin raises profile of ‘Palin Syrah’
By MICHELLE LOCKE, Associated Press Writer
Thursday, September 25, 2008
(09-25) 16:17 PDT Berkeley, Calif. (AP) –
You’ve heard plenty of political whining about the presidential campaign. But are you ready for a Chilean red wine called Palin Syrah?
The wine, pronounced “pay-LEEN sih-rah,” comes from a small winery in the Limari Valley in northern Chile and has nothing whatsoever to do with moose-hunting Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
But interest in the wine has risen since Republican presidential hopeful John McCain picked Palin as his running mate.
“I’ve seen an uptick in interest and an uptick in sales,” said David Hinkle of North Berkeley Imports, the West Coast importer for the Palin syrah — certified organic and priced at around $13 a bottle — as well as two other Palin wines.
Some liberal San Franciscans apparently find Palin wine hard to swallow. Chris Cavelli, co-owner of the Yield Wine Bar, which sells Palin Syrah by the glass, says the wine was selling well before Palin was nominated, but dropped sharply afterward.
“They would just basically say, Oh, I don’t want to drink that. That’s too close. It reminds them too much of Sarah Palin,” he said. “It’s created lots of conversation at the wine bar.”
He plans to keep the wine on the list. “I think it’s pretty funny,” he said.
Elsewhere, some are clearly more than happy to bring Palin to a grand old party.
Cepage Noir Wine Co. in Houston has sold out of its stock of Palin Syrah, said store clerk Rose Arii, with one case going to a woman who said she was throwing a politically themed bash.
Hinkle is a little taken aback by the mixing of politics and palates.
“The wines are outstanding. Very rich, full-bodied,” he said. “There’s nothing political about the wine in any way.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/09/25/financial/f161723D56.DTL
Off course Frank and Dodd want a big bailout, they stand to rake loads of money in from it, thats why.
Who does this bailout benefit, congress’s personal campaign purses, thats who.
This punk has been elaborate and the Dems did not even see it coming.
Bush presents a plan, Dems love it, repubs hate it, McCain opposes it, McCain is now not tied to backing Bush, McCain seen as taking control, deal gets killed, Repubs put new deal forward, Bush says he’s willing to look now at all plans, Dems get furious at McCain, McCain can say he’s the real maverick bucking his own party President, Repubs anounce their plans, new deal gets found, clock gets run down, Dems panic and agree, Repubs and McCain take the credit , you just know, the Dems seem have been suckered bigtime.
I think this how it will play out. Its classic Rove.
If the dims are loading pork, covering school, car, and other type of loans, maybe, this is what the Republicans are fighting against. It is criminal to load this bill, to bail out the corporate world. Disgusting. I thought, the dims were supposed to be for the people, but I guess, Roosevelt values are dead, within the “new” dimocratic party. What are they doing, to protect the citizens????
I went over to DU and they hate the bailout idea, too. Being the person responsible for killing this plan is political gold. No one likes this plan, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, except for Wall Street fat cats.
They are actually saying nice things about McCain, i near fell off the chair.
When Sarah B met Sarah P: Mrs Brown has dinner with would-be vice president Mrs Palin
By Benedict Brogan
Last updated at 12:45 AM on 26th September 2008
Sarah Brown and Sarah Palin compared notes on life in the political frontline when they met for a glittering charity gala in Manhattan.
The Prime Minister’s wife came face to face with the woman who has electrified U.S. politics just 24 hours after she pulled off her own surprise by introducing her husband’s conference speech in Manchester.
Alaska Governor Mrs Palin interrupted her campaign as Republican candidate for Vice-President to attend a reception hosted by Mrs Brown in aid of her work on preventing death in childbirth.
It was a women-only event hosted by Mrs Brown with Queen Rania of Jordan and Wendy Murdoch, wife of the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, at the upmarket restaurant Tao, which features a16ft Buddha, fountains and a pond of koi carp. The two women discussed their experience of being thrust into the limelight after Mrs Brown asked Mrs Palin about her sudden entry into the American political scene when she was picked as John McCain’s runnning mate this summer.
A source said: ‘They agreed that one of the consequences of their respective roles has been a chance to meet a range of interesting and inspiring people.’
As a plain-speaking ‘hockey mom’ from a small town in Alaska, Mrs Palin has energised the presidential campaign.
Her conservative views on social issues combined with her populist touch has both delighted and divided Americans.
Her presence at the event was a coup for the organisers led by Mrs Brown, who asked her to attend after learning that she would be in New York that evening.
The dinner was organised on behalf of the White Ribbon Alliance, a charity which campaigns to prevent death in childbirth, the fifth Millennium Development Goal.
But not all of those attending the reception and dinner at the fashionable Tao restaurant were pleased, with some guests representing charities expressing doubts about Mrs Palin’s commitment to the cause of maternal health.
However, she said she wanted to ‘hear more about it’, as celebrities including Australian supermodel Elle Mcpherson and Sarah, Duchess of York, helped raise pledges worth ‘hundreds of millions of pounds’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1061503/When-Sarah-B-met-Sarah-P-Mrs-Brown-dinner-vice-president-Mrs-Palin.html
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It appears the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY plan to dismiss and demean Gov. Sarah Palin is not working like they thought. The Dems threw WOMEN under the bus and now they have other options to those who really want their votes, compare to those who took their votes for granted.
I didn’t see anything over there but the worst kind of viciousness.
And may I just say, Barney Frank is fucking obnoxious.
on Fox Business news, republicans are saying that Wall Street has enough money to bail themselves out and any plan should be that Wall Street and not main street should pay for this mess.
I agree…government should be in the business of protecting citizens not taking their money to pay for corporations mismanagement
NO BAILOUT with taxpayer money
Obama on fox
I’m glad I’m not the only one, Obama has no idea what he’s on about, its like listening to an foreign audio dictionary that no one understands.
Thats one of his big problems, the man cannot talk to the average joe.
My friends phoned me and said, did you get any of that, what did he say?
Obama is a true Chicagoan…the art of “doublespeak” to say nothing.
I’m seeing rumors that Pelosi has enough Dem votes to pass this thing, but is furious because she wants enough Repubs on board to give her “cover”, and the Repubs are balking.
Nancy wants to cave to Bush, but does not want to take the blame for doing so.
Idunn:
agree Barney is acting obnoxious…..
As I thought, there has be some reason why Pelosi is not ramming this bill through.
The Republicans are saying No Way.
If the republicans wont join in, it means the Dems forced it thorugh all by themselves with Bush and it totally contradicts everything they are saying in the Pres campaign. Republicans know this and the Dems would be stuck with a huge unpopular bailout bill they rammed through.
WAshingtom mutual is under FDIC control…another bank under…
So Obama is now voting with Bush and McCain isnt, there’s a big talking point down the toilet for bambi.
newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/09/25/schieffer-paulson-warned-bailout-would-fail-unless-mccain-got-invo
Schieffer: Paulson Pleaded for McCain to Save Bailout
Washington mutual has been on the brink for a bit, to be honest, if these banks are going down, its because their business model is shit. If your debt to savings ratio is to high, then you have no backup and are a bad bank, let it go under.
I have no sympathy for banks like this, its the people’s saving’s i feel sorry for.
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/liberal-pacs-ready-attack-ad-on-mccains-health/
Liberal PACs Ready Attack Ad on McCain’s Health
ADMIN, PLEASE EMBED! Lynn Forester de Rothschild on FOX, talking about McCain going to DC, and Bill Clinton’s statement. She was WONDERFUL!
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3112450&referralPlaylistId=playlist
Lynn Forester de Rothschild on FOX today – MUST WATCH! Talks about McCain going to DC, and Bill Clinton’s comments:
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3112450&referralPlaylistId=playlist
McCain cannot go against the whole republican party voters, no one wants this bailout. There are better ways of doing this.
Demand no pork at all in there, make oversight the prime agenda and all lenders receiving money has to have a full audit for stability. Banks should be also made to have a limit on debt to savings ratio to make sure they must keep sufficient funds available at all times, like a proper reserve.
Moon, the only thing McCain “blew up” was the chances of Frank and Dodd to shove their own malfeasance under the rug so fast that the public wouldn’t know the details. So yeah, Frank is pissed, and Pelosi needs the smelling salts, because they wanted to roll over for Bush and get the attention off Fannie and Freddie.
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Sounds like John prevented bush and the dem leadership from slipping a poison pill to the American Public to save their own hides.
Hillary’s proposal to preserve the status quo, prevent foreclosures and assure credit markets for 3-6 months is the sensible alternative. The media is clueless and is misreporting the facts.
This is a serious time and we cannot let markets decide our fate.
BO trying to stop this ad by the NRA. hehehehe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0MO3bgvw0&eurl=http://www.wikio.com/video/459369
BO is trying to stop this NRA ad.
hehehehe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0MO3bgvw0&eurl
# moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
The worlds gone insane.
It is bizarre when the Dems are agreeing w/ Pres. Bush on this and the Republicans are fighting it. LOL, I have never seen anything like it.
And to top it all of B Clinton is sticking up for McCain.
You can’t make this stuff up. Although the Dems are being suckered and dont even know it.
So they slam McCain as Bush’s 3rd term and the Dems just destroyed their own argument when they side with Bush and McCain opposes his bailout, unreal, punked and don’t even know it.
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ever see that movie Freaky Friday (either early or late versions)?…it’s like the Republicans and Dems are switching bodies.
Let me get this straight – Reid is going to NOT ALLOW debate and a vote on a HUGE FUCKING NATIONAL CRISIS so that his posterboy can get his TV facetime?
Reid is scum.
“WASHINGTON — It won’t be votes in the Senate that keep Republican presidential candidate John McCain away from Friday night’s debate.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said today he would not be scheduling any votes to “make sure there’s no excuses to not go forward with the debate.”
“If ever there was a time in the history of our country … American people need to hear this.”
Republican National Committee spokesman Bill Riggs said: “It’s clear that Harry Reid and Barack Obama would rather score cheap political points with Washington parlor games than do the business of the American people and find bipartisan solutions.””
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/early-line/2008/sep/25/reid-no-votes-friday-night-avoid-excuses/
The Dems are screwing themselves with this.
h4t,
I’ve been distracted today withwork stuff and haven’t been glued to the news.
could you explain your 8:56 comment? thanks.
WBBoei,
I loved your spoof on George W and Bambi. That was really funny. Thanks for the laughs, lol.
When the tide rolls out here we will see who is swimming without a bathing suit. Obama, Reid, Franke and Pelosi.
The reason obama supported the bill was because it favors his contributors, covers up the trasgressions of his bot senators and congressmen, and the fact that it screws the American People is a matter of no consequence.
bluegirl Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
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Thanks bluegirl!
Let me get this straight – Reid is going to NOT ALLOW debate and a vote on a HUGE FUCKING NATIONAL CRISIS so that his posterboy can get his TV facetime?
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Are you kidding me?
I can’t believe this. If this happens everyone should boycott the debate
basil, Red is senate majority leader. He is the one who has to schedule votes and debate on the floor. He said that he will REFUSE to schedule votes for tomorrow, so that the TV debate can go on – so that McCain won’t have an opportunity to get a bill passed on this crisis tomorrow, and will therefore be free to go debate.
That is fucking low as low can be. Playing politics with our lives, our pocketbooks.
Bill Clinton has been saying something nice about McCain almost daily and that really tickles me. That must really irritate the living daylights out of BO and MO, lol.
thanks to Hannity for this inspiration about BHO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koL3sZzGT1A
wbboei,
You are welcome!
what Hannity said was a slam on BHO about “just call me I’ll be there but I thought you guys would like the video anyway
moononpluto Says:
September 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
The Dems are screwing themselves with this.
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In what way? I can think of a few. What did you have in mind?
Just saw Newt on H&C. I think Obama and the Dems are screwed when all this ends.
yesterday the dems said they had a deal on the bailout
“what a difference a day makes”
Can’t believe I’m saying this but Boehner and the house republicans deserve to be congratulated on this! Taxpayers should not have to fund any part of this mess. The democrats should be embarrassed that so many of them were willing to go along with that $700 billion travesty.
Birdgal, pick up a gun blindfolded and shoot, i’m sure you’d hit a reason.
Its amazing how easy it has become to punk Obama.
moon: ROFL! That’s why, I said, I could think of a few. LO!
Seriously, if the dims force this through, they are screwing the American people. The parties have switched places. We need oversight and if, Wall Stree has the money, why, is the government bailing them out????
I am so done with the Democratic Party
Wall St has always had the money, they just want extra “free” money.
I would like to know why Obama is so intent on going ahead with this debate?
He needs to divert attention, thats why.
seriously I’m gonna be sick….this is about as low as (maybe) the dems can go, shame on them
the only reason I post this is because I’m dumbstruck at the people that call themselves democrat and then turn around and do this
admin you might NOT want to embed this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvJPGnkQxE
I think Obama will be smart to agree to postpone the debate. With all this distraction, lack of focus, and his and his minions multiple mistakes leading up to the debate tomorrow and losing all that prep time he was depending on, I don’t think he will do well in the debate (even with a pillow he doesn’t do well). Watch for it — he will be agreeable to moving it tomorrow afternoon — chalk it up to his lack of confidence.
neetabug,
Yes it should be boycotted…and McCain should lead the pack. This is ridiculous. The DNC is blackmailing him so they can get their .30 seconds of fame.
mccain camp-deal dead
time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/deal_gone_south.html
I will bet if the debate goes forward, there is a lot of people out there don’t know the debate is on foreign policy.
Some will wonder how come they are not discussing the economy
Good. I don’t know why all the little sheeple want this friggen bail out. I am embarrassed to admit I thought it was necessary, but now I’m looking at it, reading Krugman and others, and thinking are we just being snookered? Why are the Dem’s knee-jerk happy to give Bush 700 billion dollars for Wall Street for christ sake?
I had noticed how often the media kept bringing up McCain’s skin cancer and thought how low that was, but this video is the lowest.
I’m so ashamed to be a member of the Democratic party. I really want nothing to do with these people.
NO Bailout, NO debate, NObama
McCain has been cancer free for 8 years. Those doctors should be ashamed of themselves. I loathe the dimocratic for stooping so low. “New” politics, yeah right. The dims are more of the same.
gallup poll has already changed, its dead even again. Obama lost his little lead. Full effect from this will be tomorrow. McCain is winning from this. I can’t believe Harry Reid is doing that. They really need to vote him out. I know it won’t happen, but they really need to. He is scum. From what I am reading this really isn’t a bailout, its a loan, and the government will get rich off of it once they sell back the mortages they bought for more than they bought them for once the market goes back up, you know all those programs Obama wants? This is how he is going to pay for it. Plus all the pork that is in there. I wish they would name names. I would like to know who is trying to get their pet projects funded.
Wait a minute. I thought McCain did release his medical records, sometime at the begining of summer. I remember it in the news. Wasn’t it Obama who wouldn’t release his? Along with a whole lot of other records. He is hiding years of his life.
I would be interested in seeing all the missing papers in BO’s life. I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours.
I don’t know if this has been posted before but the San Francisco Examiner newspaper has endorsed McCain/Palin for President
http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/The_Examiner_endorses_McCain-Palin.html
OkieAtty
Thankyou!!!!!
thought you all might want to know:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20080925/NEWS01/80925009/1002/NEWS
Pollster says election could end in landslide
The presidential election might be a tight race now, but one of the country’s top pollsters thinks the race will end in an electoral landslide.
John Zogby, president of Zogby International, told a group of businesspeople today that it’s up to Democratic Sen. Barack Obama to convince voters to go with him. If he’s not successful, the country will