NObama

As we wrote yesterday:

This Wednesday we will post our long awaited opus regarding What Hillary Supporters Should Do after the election in NOvember. Some of what we suggest will be denounced. Some of what we suggest will be applauded. What matters is that the strategy will be set and the time of longer term action will arrive.

The time for other types of action HAS ALREADY ARRIVED.

It’s time to contact our email lists, make phone calls to friends, call all the fellow Democrats we have known for years, call Democrats we have worked with during the primaries, contact everyone we know and tell them: NObama. NOvember.

Some Hillary supporters feel dispirited or otherwise disempowered wondering if contacting our email lists and those we know is enough for a successful NObama strategy. The answer is an emphatic yes. We are playing to our strengths.

Obama supporters have spent months mocking Hillary supporters and others who say NObama, NOvember. Obama supporters display their charming ways by calling NObama Hillary supporters “dead enders”. Obama supporters display their charms to us by disparaging us and saying we are few in number. Let them live with this delusion. Meanwhile we will contact fellow Democrats and ensure a delightful NOvember.

The strategy is deadly simply: play to our strengths by having NObama Hillary supporters contact Hillary supporters in the states Hillary won – which are the must win states in NOvember.

There is a big universe of NObama Hillary supporters and an even bigger universe of Hillary supporters who must be contacted to make sure they vote NObama in NOvember.

Barack Obama’s support from backers of Hillary Rodham Clinton is stuck smack where it was in June, a poll showed Tuesday, a stunning lack of progress that is weakening him with members of the Democratic Party in the close presidential race. [snip]

Those supporting McCain have also edged up from 21 percent to 28 percent, with the number of undecided staying constant, the survey showed. [snip]

“It’s just a gut feeling, my gut tells me he’s not it,” Leslye Burgess, 53, a federal Treasury Department manager and Democrat from Fairfax, Va., said of Obama. The Clinton supporter added, “I’ll have to fight with myself between now and November” about how she’ll vote.

Our job is to contact and communicate with the many “Leslye Burgess” voters and let them know they are not alone is thinking Obama is not qualified nor experienced enough to be president.

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Many Democratic Hillary supporters in the primaries and Republican women who would have possibly voted for Hillary Clinton in the general election have helped close the typical gender gap in the upcoming general election:

Since picking Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has obliterated what had been a 34-percentage-point deficit in a poll of likely women voters on the question of which candidate has a “better understanding of women and what is important” to them. [snip]

About one in four women who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primaries now said McCain and Palin have a better grasp of women’s needs than Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden.

We will play to our strengths: contact Hillary supporters in the big swing states Hillary won and tell them they are not alone and they too should vote NObama NOvember.

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  1. Great plan / call to action, admin. It’s simple, direct, and should prove to be incredibly effective. Obama cannot win without those votes, plain and simple.

    NObama, NOvember!

  2. 3:30 p.m.- John Kerry, Richest U.S. Lawmaker
    Reported by: RNS
    Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 @03:33pm CST

    It pays to be John Kerry. According to the Capitol Hill publication “Roll Call,” Massachusetts’ junior senator and failed 2004 Democratic presidential hopeful has an estimated minimum net worth of nearly $231 million. That makes him the richest member of Congress.

    Senator Edward Kennedy, often thought of as the “Richie Rich” of U.S. lawmakers, actually is the ninth most-wealthy, worth about $48 million.

    Senator Barack Obama did not make the paper’s list of the 50 wealthiest U.S. Senators and Representatives, while John McCain came in at number 13, with an estimated $19 million in his piggy bank.

    Most of Kerry’s net worth comes from his wife’s share of the Heinz company fortune.

    arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=117681

  3. Florida Radio Station Running Ads Accusing Barack Obama of Ignoring Black Voters

    The rhetorical battle between Barack Obama and the black press is heating up. According to an article in the Orlando Sentinel, 1590 AM (WPUL) in Daytona, Florida has begun running ads accusing the presidential candidate of not spending enough ad money on black-owned press outlets.

    The article quotes Charles W. Cherry II, publisher of The Florida Courier, a statewide black newspaper, who says, “If you want to win by getting black people to vote in the state of Florida, you must actively engage the black community’s political culture. A large part of this culture is black-owned media.” Cherry’s family also owns 11 radio stations and The Daytona Press.

    Polls show John McCain leading Obama in the swing state, although the Democratic nominee is expected to win 85 percent to 92 percent of the black vote in the general election.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/election_08/florida_radio_station_running_ads_accusing_barack_obama_of_ignoring_black_voters_95376.asp

  4. Poll Shows Tight Race in N.H.

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    Part of I-95 in Maine closed

    Deadly St. Albans Fire Deliberately Set

    Plattsburgh Police Investigate Vandalism Spree

    Convicted Child Killer May Be Released Early

    Manchester, New Hampshire – September 23, 2008

    New Hampshire is considered a swing state in the presidential election and a new poll finds the race there a dead heat.

    The University of New Hampshire poll conducted for WMUR-TV has Republican John McCain with 47 percent and Democrat Barack Obama with 45 percent.

    12 percent of voters who said they had made their choice said they could change their minds before Election Day.

    wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=9060228&nav=menu183_5_2_3

  5. I was sent this recently….being wooed by BO supporters…do not fall for this crap!!!

    —–
    Becareful !!!!!
    The following was posted by Lea Lane on huffpo. I Pass it on without comment since it speaks for itself…Olivia Taylor-Young

    Do Whatever You Must to Trick Former Hillary Supporters into Voting for Barack
    Eat Crow? Hell Yes, to Win This Election

    The Obama team is suddenly making a huge effort to gain women’s votes, but many die-hard Hillary supporters — dozens of my acquaintances — remain bruised and confused. The fact that Palin is on the ticket when HRC wasn’t even vetted may turn out to have been the major gaffe of Axelrod and Company, and the tipping point of this tight election.

    If you’ve been an outspoken Obama supporter from the beginning, it’s time to make amends with Hillary supporters you know. Arguing with, or browbeating them to get on board is counterproductive, but showing you’ve come around to respecting Hillary may ease their hurt enough to do the trick. (Even if you don’t mean it. This is politics.)

    Here’s what you can do:

    Eat crow. To get started, memorize this phrase, take a deep breath and say: “Now that I see how unqualified Sarah Palin is, I realize how I misjudged Hillary Clinton. Even Biden said she would have made a great vice president.” Saying you wish she were the presidential nominee may go too far, and you may not be able to get it out. But if the Hillaryite brings it up, don’t argue, and see below

    Let the HRC voter vent.You may have to draw on every bit of patience you have. You may have to hear once again how unfair it is that the Repubs chose Palin, and the Dems ignored Hillary, and that the party would assuredly be ahead if she were anywhere on the ticket. You may have to hear old-news complaints about sexism and Jack Cafferty’s curmudgeonly comments, David Shuster’s pimping Chelsea insult, the Monica mentions, the tougher debate questions for Hillary. Do not look like you want to run and soak your head in vodka, even if you do. Do not talk unless asked. Listening without argument is the major way to keep this potential voter attainable. Act empathic. Nod your head in agreement when the subject of Palin or Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann’s Hillary-bashing commentary is mentioned. Learn these phrases and use them every so often: “I imagine it must be hard.” “It must seem unfair.” “I know, you wanted to see an accomplished woman as president in your lifetime.” “I can understand your being hurt (sad, mad, furious, despondent, livid, resentful, apoplectic, intransigent, inconsolable, red-faced, nauseous, wretched, shit-faced”). Again, do not argue. Just listen.

    Do not praise Obama.I know, this seems ridiculous, but now is not the time in this chain of events. Also, do not praise Michelle or their daughters. If the HRC supporter praises, agree and move on. This is not so much about Obama as it is the closure about Hillary’s run, which remains a wound to some. Take a breath, and move to the next step, which may be the hardest.

    Praise HRC.Never mention her flaws. Be gracious and do not bring up her vote for the war, or her “dirty campaign.” Do not allude to Bill. Instead, try to find something you can praise with some conviction — some version of “By the end of the campaign I could understand why people were so enthusiastic about Senator Clinton (not “Hillary”). I saw her toughness, her brains, her heart.” “She is gracious and helpful in defeat.” And especially, “Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.” You may have to go back to steps one and two. Nobody said this would be easy.

    Know your anti-female McCain political facts.Here comes the logic. Make a cheat-sheet if necessary. If Palin can get past her ignorance about The Bush Doctrine and the Constitution in prime time, you can learn these few talking points. Remind HRC supporters that several Supreme Court nominees (and Roe v Wade) are in the balance. Discuss McCain/Palin’s ultra-conservative record, and stands on right- to- life, guns, creationism, you name it. You’ll need to do some homework here. Wikipedia and Google are there for you at all times.

    Know your anti-female McCain emotional facts. If the above doesn’t do it, remain low-key, with a pleasant visage. Remind HRC supporters that McCain left his disfigured first wife who waited loyally for him and raised their children alone, to have an affair with Cindy, the current, rich, much younger wife. But aha, continuing this behavior, he probably cheated on this trophy with blonde lobbyist, Vicky Isenman. (Where is this woman? In a rendition prison in Syria till after the election? Hello, National Enquirer.) Remind the Hillary fan that McCain called his $300k-suited trophy wife the C- word in public, and has a notoriously terrible temper. And worst of all, and leave this for the climax of this entire exercise: McCain publicly laughed at the allusion to HRC as a “bitch” and — lowest of the low — made that public Chelsea Clinton ugly joke when she was just a teen.

    Know your Palin political and emotional facts. Emphasize that Palin is against almost everything that Hillary stands for. List these things. Be sure to mention that she called Hillary “a whiner.” Then ask, “Do you really want this undeserving woman to break the glass ceiling before someone as deserving and qualified as Hillary Clinton?”

    If you did your best but it didn’t work, leave the door open. Don’t lose it and attack the HRC supporter for being stupid, intransigent, short-sighted, emotional, unpatriotic, and thinking with her nether regions, even if those feelings are coursing inside you. Do not use the term “bitch,” even though McCain did.

    Hillary supporters may not want to tell you that you’ve reached them. Assume it will take a few tries. And even if these voters don’t admit they’ve changed their minds, at a minimum, your attempt at taking one for the team may influence them enough to keep them from voting for McCain, or bad-mouthing Obama’s so-far wobbly candidacy.

    If each die-hard Obama supporter could convince even one disgruntled HRC supporter that he or she respects Hillary Clinton, it just might help secure this election. Even if you still don’t like HRC, consider yourselves citizen-patriots, suck it up, and do your part to save our country. And fast, please.

  6. Barry doesn’t have to spend any walkin’ around money in the black community. He’ll just toss ’em a hoodwinked, a bamboozled, and a half dozen okie dokes. What are they going to do? Vote for the white dude?

    Baaaawaaa haaa haaaa.

  7. Admin thanks for the updates about Hillary supporters, I suspected as much since all the polls keep saying BHO is gaining. hahaha saw that one before in PA

    As to most of these polls it’s like a rollercoaster and by the way, the only way the pollsters can keep themselves in the news is to change them every day. Bottom line is only takes 1 vote…it could be you!

  8. there was a comment on a good article on another blog that really struck me:

    “If he is elected, he’ll spend 3 of the 4 years running for a second term”

    which rings to me as true – he’ll spend most of the time trying to figure out how to distort the press, transform his minions into true brown-shirts, so he can stay in power for a 2nd term. UGH! another reason not to vote for him. Anyway, here’s the blog article:

    edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/the-mother-of-all-flip-flops/

    per Politico, Obama already found the excuse to take back just about all his campaign promises

    Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said in an interview aired Tuesday that the cost of the mortgage bailout plan may rein in his ambitious plans for health care, energy, education and infrastructure.

    This is a blank check flip-flop:

    “Does that mean that I can do everything that I’ve called for in this campaign right away?” Obama said. “Probably not. I think we’re going to have to phase it in. And a lot of it’s going to depend on what our tax revenues look like.”

    I guess it moves to the top of the flip-flop list

    It should go in history as the fastest a politician reneged on ALL his promises

  9. Biden throws Obama under the bus — from WaPo:

    ————
    Biden Walks Back Comment on ‘Terrible’ Obama Ad

    By Perry Bacon Jr.

    Democratic vice-presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden issued a statement late Tuesday attempting to clarify his comments that an ad the Obama campaign ran earlier this month was “terrible.”

    Biden, in an interview that aired Tuesday on CBS Evening News, had criticized an ad the Obama campaign released earlier this month that highlighted McCain’s inability to use a computer, saying, “I thought that was terrible by the way” and “if I’d have had anything to do with it, we never would have done it.”

    The McCain campaign immediately attacked Obama, invoking Biden’s words. “Barack Obama has brought the sleazy gutter politics of Chicago to our national stage, exposing his call for a ‘new politics’ as a lie and embarrassing even his own running mate with the low road campaign he’s running,” said McCain-Palin spokesman Brian Rogers in a statement.

    But in the statement issued by the Obama campaign, Biden said he had never seen the ad and only read press reports of it.

    “Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Senator McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize,” Biden said in the statement.

    For Biden, whose candor and occasional verbal gaffes had worried some Democrats as he was been considered to run on the Democratic ticket, his initial criticism of the campaign ad was the first time he had formally reversed one of his comments, although he caught lots of attention for suggesting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton might be have been a stronger vice-presidential choice.

  10. “I guess it moves to the top of the flip-flop list”

    I think I would put it in the category of a comprehensive universal flip-flop.

    He specifically said today that there probably wouldn’t be any money to talk about universal health care. There’s a surprise. I hope that the Dems are happy with that.

  11. lol, so he’s on a campaign but doesnt look or see the the ad, only reads the press review, what a load of old horseshit.

  12. I wonder what Hillary will have to say about Obama’s flipflopping on universal healthcare. The guy can flip on all his promises. He can come up with excuse after excuse during his whole term if we are unlucky enough that he is elected.

    NoBama will do nothing at all!

  13. 3 Day CONCENTRATION CAMP FOR nObama in nearby Tampa for the next three days to help him cram a little foreign policy into his hithertofore empty foreign policy head.
    An nObama surrogate said that McCain should win the Friday debate because he had soooo much knowledge and experience in the area. Boot camp for the top of the ticket of the undemocratic Democratic Party; and they bark so loudly about Palin meeting some foreign leaders today.

    Sooooooooooooo disingenious!!!!!!!! Does anyone think you can make a debater out of a teleprompter orator in just three short days?????????

  14. Universal Health Care was all that nObama had that I longed for…………..now there is every reason to vote for the ticket with the smart woman on it and not worry about the undemocratic Democratic Party one more nano second.

    Way to go OBAMA!!!!! Take away all the reasons that any woman would have to vote for you…or man either for that matter.

    The GREAT RENEGER is my new name for nObama!!!!!

    Definition below:
    re·nege (r-ng, -ng, -ng)
    v. re·neged, re·neg·ing, re·neges
    v.intr.
    1. To fail to carry out a promise or commitment: reneged on the contract at the last minute.
    2. Games To fail to follow suit in cards when able and required by the rules to do so.
    v.tr.
    To renounce; disown.
    n.
    The act of reneging.

    ———————————————————-

    [Medieval Latin renegre, to deny; see renegade.]

    ———————————————————-re·neger n.

  15. ShortTermer, I would like to start spreading the meme that Obama plans to be “well-coached” for the debate.

    That’s what they said endlessly about Plain giving some good answers to Gibson – that she wasn’t really good, she was just WELL-COACHED.

  16. he said what?

    WASHINGTON – Vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says today’s leaders should take a lesson from the history books and follow fellow Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt’s response to a financial crisis.

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,'” Barack Obama’s running mate recently told the “CBS Evening News.”

    Except, Republican Herbert Hoover was in office when the stock market crashed in October 1929. There also was no television at the time; TV wasn’t introduced to the public until a decade later, at the 1939 World’s Fair.

    FDR was elected three years later when voters denied Hoover a second term. The Democratic challenger appealed to the “forgotten man” by promising a “new deal” to solve the Depression era.

  17. .For godzilla-phobes.
    This is from Sept. 17

    She worries that the Obama campaign is “insular.” She said: “It doesn’t feel like a family with all voices at the table are as diverse as the party itself. It still feels like a primary campaign with some additions. It doesn’t feel like all hands on deck.”

    translation: No one is calling me asking for advice and I don’t like it–it’s not fair. Why doesn’t anyone want to hear from someone who can’t run a campaign and gives terrible advice consistently.

    …. if he doesn’t pull it off . .

    “If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose. The country just wasn’t ready.”

    Don’t worry Donna. You and Roland could always take your bump and grind show on the road.

  18. he went on to say…

    “Part of what being a leader does is to instill confidence, is to demonstrate what he or she knows what they are talking about and to communicating to people … this is how we can fix this,” Biden said.

  19. Don’t know if this was posted earlier..Fox is reporting that Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Lehman Brothers and AIG are being investigated by the FBI

    Would this not be potential trouble for Obama with all his connections to these groups?

  20. sometimes I keep thinking about the Michelle Whitedove predictions that Hillary would be 44, and then, I think, maybe the DNC and the BO campaign interfered and f*cked with history, and there ya go. if everything had gone as naturally planned, it would be Hillary vs. McCain, and blue skies here again soon.

    instead, we have this national nightmare, and many of us hope that if McCain wins, BO will finally get out of our lives. Just a little over 40 days. I want BO out of our lives!

  21. mp,

    ILMFAP when I read Lea Lane’s advice on Huffpo about how to persuade a recalcitrant Hillary Clinton supporter to vote for Barack Obama. Oh, the difficult art of persuasion! Not a one of the Obama bots can pull it off.

    An earnest Obama supporter in Boston tried to persuade me on the phone but just couldn’t stick to the program. He conceded nothing. When I referred to Hillary’s 18 million votes, he couldn’t leave it alone. He corrected me.

    “Sixteen to seventeen votes,” he said.

    I tried so hard to make him understand how I feel about the way that Hillary’s loss came down that I was crying at the end.

  22. I want BO out of our lives!

    Me three

    He messed up this whole thing for Hillary. He could have at least waited for another term or two. Most people wait until they’ve had a bit more experience.

  23. If anyone can think they can talk a Hillary supporter into voting for Obama, then they have no idea what we are made of, do they? lol The very idea!!

  24. As if we needed any further proof that the Obama campaign is the most amateur-ish Democratic presidential campaign in our lifetimes:

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    In gaffe, Biden says FDR led when market crashed
    Tuesday, September 23, 2008

    (09-23) 16:57 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) —

    Vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says today’s leaders should take a lesson from the history books and follow fellow Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt’s response to a financial crisis.

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,'” Barack Obama’s running mate recently told the “CBS Evening News.”

    Except, Republican Herbert Hoover was in office when the stock market crashed in October 1929. There also was no television at the time; TV wasn’t introduced to the public until a decade later, at the 1939 World’s Fair.

    FDR was elected three years later when voters denied Hoover a second term. The Democratic challenger appealed to the “forgotten man” by promising a “new deal” to solve the Depression era.

    Democrats usually like to remind the public that a Republican was president during the 1929 stock market crash. During the 2004 presidential election, John Kerry’s campaign repeatedly cited Hoover as the last president until George W. Bush to oversee a loss of jobs during his time in office.

    Biden was commenting on the stock market crash when he said leaders should explain the current economic crisis and how to solve it to the public.

    “Part of what being a leader does is to instill confidence, is to demonstrate what he or she knows what they are talking about and to communicating to people … this is how we can fix this,” Biden said.

    Biden’s spokesman, David Wade, countered: “I’m proud to say that we Democrats aren’t experts at Herbert Hoover depression economics like John McCain and his pals. From Franklin Roosevelt to Bill Clinton, we just get elected to clean up the economic mess these Republicans leave behind.”

  25. He didn’t get it, but he did stop calling me. I’d have an easier time now that I know more about the scant, corrupt record of one inexperienced dude who has never been properly vetted, even now, though a few people have dug into his record here and there. Lou Dobbs on CNN today deserves a shout out. He gets it that Sarah Palin is getting smeared while Obama takes a pass on his record. He totally gets it.

    He also gets it about what’s been going on with Wall Street and why those greedy CEOs should not get a golden parachute after they’ve destroyed their companies. My hope is that taxpayers pay for no Wall Street bail-out unless limits on compensation and serious reform and most of all, oversight, are put into place.

  26. No Obama, No Way, No how.

    I responded to those emails from Hillary saying, “I respect your decision, but I have to put my country first, and I do not know what is to be expected with Obama other then all talk. I want what I feel is in the best interest for America. I still continue to be a true Democrat much like you, Senator Clinton, President Clinton, and others but cannot be committed to what appears to be the party of the elites this year. It seems to me as this party is what is hurting our true Democratic Party.”

  27. Obama, Pelosi, Kerry and Dodd gonna be sweating now.

    money.cnn.com/2008/09/23/news/companies/fbi_finance.ap/index.htm?cnn=yes

    FANNIE-GATE Begins – FBI Probe Launched

    Investigators start search for fraud at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers and AIG, sources say.

    The FBI is investigating four major U.S. financial institutions whose collapse helped trigger a $700 billion bailout plan by the Bush administration.

    The inquiries, still in preliminary stages, will focus on the financial institutions and the individuals that ran them, a senior law enforcement official said.

  28. the more I think about it I believe Hillary knew exactly what she was saying when she said NO way, NO how….(even though she added McCain to the end of it)

    I think it was her way of telling the NObama gang she heard them.

  29. debbie, me too. Also the “when you see the torches, keep going. when you hear the dogs, keep going…”

    Hill knows. She is hampered in what she can say if she wants to survive this politically to fight for her country another day, but she knows, and she hears us.

  30. mp Says:
    September 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I was sent this recently….being wooed by BO supporters…do not fall for this crap!!!
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Wow. Fascinating. I love people doing The Obamabot Sweat.

    Give me a bouncy C!!:

    It’s just a jump to the left.
    and then a jump to the right.
    You make up facts
    avoid reality
    Sell your soul to the devil
    Ignore all of his faults
    That’s how you do the Obamabot Sweat.

  31. Hi all! LTNS. But I have been reading when I can. Admin, GREAT posts over the past week and i love reading all the comments. This is the most interesting place on the we . Smart folks, smart thinking. NObama NOvember.

  32. mp, the post from Huff ‘n Puff is funny in that the writer is COMPLETELY UNAWARE that the pandering nature of her instructions to convert supporters of HRC is EXACTLY what BO & Co are doing to her and all the other little ROBOTS out there. Tell them ANYTHING and make them LOVE YOU for doing it and understand all the woes and nod your head. Say “fired up!” enough and have vapid responses to everything. Smile at them, get their votes.

    and then stab them in the back.

    Just like Obama. How appropriate. The little Comrade has learned well.

  33. Now the pieces begin to fit together, hmmm, I wonder why Obama has been keeping this quiet now we know.

    Chairman of the Pakistani Senate Muhammadmian Soomro has a friend in White House if Barak Hussain Obama finally succeeds in his presidential bid.

    Hardly a few people know about Soomro’s link with Obama, which he never discussed it in public. But in private interactions with influential Pakistanis here in the US, Obama disclosed that Soomro’s father was his host when he went on a hunting expedition in Jacobabad during his visit to Pakistan in 1981.

    While in Karachi, Obama had stayed at the residence of his college friend, Hassan Chandio. In Jacobabad, he was the guest of Soomro family. Muhammadmian Soomro confirmed this information and said it was his first meeting with Obama.

    “Yes, he had been our guest and spent three days in Jacobabad,” he told The News. Soomro, presently in the US, his second home, said an American friend had told his father, Ahmadmian Soomro, about Obama’s arrival in Pakistan and asked him to look after the American. Soomro’s father was the deputy speaker of West Pakistan Assembly and had also later served in the Senate.

    Ahmadmian Soomro had also served in banking industry and was considered a pioneer in cooperative banking. By the time Soomro’s father had hosted Obama, he was only a college student who went to Pakistan on his way from Indonesia where his mother was working with the Ford Foundation’s micro credit finance project. Also Obama’s mother was a frequent traveller to Pakistan and according to Time Magazine, she had a little bit proficiency in speaking Urdu.

    When Soomro was asked about the person who referred Obama to his father, he said he nowadays lived in some country in South America. He was, however, reluctant to disclose his identity, saying he will have to seek permission from that man before giving his profile.

    Although, Obama has not disclosed his link with Soomro, he mentioned it during his canvassing campaign while talking to a Pakistani American, Shahid Ahmad Khan, member of Board of Trustees Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

  34. got power back tonight!!! and bill clinton and bush sr are teaming up again to fundraise to help-this time for houston and galveston!
    Ex-Presidents Bush, Clinton joining forces for Ike recovery
    In another relief campaign together, the two have enlisted the help of some Houston leaders, including the Chronicle’s publisher, to raise funds for the Gulf Coast
    By JEANNIE KEVER
    Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
    Sept. 23, 2008, 7:43PM

    CHITOSE SUZUKI Associated Press
    Former Presidents Clinton and Bush, shown in New Orleans for their Katrina relief effort in 2005. They’re working together again to help the Gulf Coast after Ike.

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    BUSH-CLINTON COASTAL RECOVERY FUND

    Campaign was established by former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton to help with long-term recovery:
    Who can apply: Local governments and organizations along the Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast.

    Aid distribution: Bush and Clinton will make most decisions. Grants will begin in five or six months.

    For more information: The Web site http://www.BushClintonCoastalFund.org should be up by mid-morning Wednesday.

    GULF COAST IKE RELIEF FUND

    Established by Houston Mayor Bill White to provide immediate relief:
    Who can apply: Small organizations in the Houston-Galveston area that provide shelter and temporary housing, food and household supplies, transportation and child care.

    Aid distribution: Decisions will be made by an advisory board, with the first applications approved by the end of the week.

    To donate: Mail checks payable to Gulf Coast Ike Relief Fund to Greater Houston Community Foundation, 4550 Post Oak Place, Suite 100, Houston, TX 77027

    UNITED WAY HURRICANE RECOVERY FUND

    Who can apply: Organizations in Harris, Fort Bend and Waller counties offering case management, long-term mental health needs and minor home repair, among other services.
    Aid distribution: United Way board and task force will make decisions. Some grants already made; most will be made several months from now.

    To donate: Go to http://www.unitedwayhouston.org and click “Give Now” or “Do Something About It.” Call 713-685-2800 or mail checks to United Way of Greater Houston, 50 Waugh Drive, Houston, TX 77007

    Former Presidents Bush and Clinton will do it again, this time teaming up to raise money for the Gulf Coast’s recovery from Hurricane Ike.

    The effort, patterned after their previous partnerships to help survivors of the Indonesian tsunami and of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, will be announced Wednesday in New York.

    The Bush-Clinton Coastal Recovery Fund will focus on long-term recovery efforts all along the Gulf Coast.

    Bush is expected to join Clinton for the announcement tomorrow morning in New York, where Clinton is hosting the annual meeting of his Clinton Global Initiative. In Houston, former Secretary of State James Baker is scheduled to provide additional details at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy, where he will be joined by several local business leaders who have been asked to help.

    That list includes Landry’s Restaurants CEO Tilman Fertitta, Gallery Furniture owner Jim McIngvale and Jack Sweeney, publisher of the Houston Chronicle, Bush spokesman Jim McGrath said.

    Baker will serve as national chairman of the campaign, which came together in less than a week.

    “We’re literally talking days,” said Chris Begala, who is working with McGrath on the campaign. Both worked on previous Bush-Clinton relief efforts.

    The Bush-Clinton campaign is the third major relief and recovery effort announced locally within the past week; the other two are the United Way’s Hurricane Recovery Fund and Mayor Bill White’s Gulf Coast Ike Relief Fund.

    (National campaigns are ongoing, as well, including one by the McCormick Foundation and the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund, which isn’t limited to Ike.)

    But Stephen Maislin, president and CEO of the Greater Houston Community Foundation, said the three target different needs and, to an extent, different donors.

    “If there were twice as many (funds), I’d start getting worried,” he said. “I think these are pretty targeted.”

    The foundation will administer the Bush-Clinton fund; it also is administering the Gulf Coast Ike Relief Fund.

    The Bush-Clinton fund will go after national and international donors and will address long-term infrastructure needs, Maislin said.

    The Gulf Coast Ike Relief Fund, in contrast, seeks to provide immediate aid. It will begin dispersing money within the next week or so.

    The United Way fund is doing a little of both but will focus primarily on long-term human service needs, President and CEO Anna Babin said. “We should complement each other.”

    Clinton and Bush have proven a popular, bipartisan attraction with their combined work in helping survivors of natural disasters.

    “Bush-Clinton, obviously it’s a terrific name,” Maislin said. “It’s been very effective.”

    McGrath and Begala said the former presidents raised $1 billion for tsunami relief, designed after a tsunami devastated Indonesia in December 2004, and $135 million for the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund, which provided help for communities and institutions affected by the 2005 hurricanes.

    The Greater Houston Community Foundation was involved in both campaigns, experience that Maislin said proved valuable in setting up the Ike effort on short notice.

    “We’ve been down this path before, so we have some sense of what we need to do,” he said.

    jeannie.kever@chron.com

  35. Subject: From today’s Washington Times
    Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 6:53 PM

    Tuesday, September 23, 2008
    Inside the Beltway
    John McCaslin (Contact)
    HILLARY’S SHADOW
    The previous time New York business leader and Democratic activist Bill Arnone surveyed some five-dozen of his fellow staunch Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters, they indicated they would “either vote for McCain-Palin or for neither ticket, or were undecided, or would write in Senator Clinton’s name.”
    Now the former volunteer adviser to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has asked the group of Democrats: Would you change your mind if Mrs. Clinton were to replace Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the vice-presidential candidate running with Sen. Barack Obama?
    The results, which he forwarded to Inside the Beltway: Yes: 56 percent; No: 39 percent; Not sure: 5 percent.
    Not surprisingly, many of those who responded “Yes” noted they could not “imagine such a scenario,” which remains highly unlikely. Others said that while they would support an Obama-Clinton ticket, they were against the idea, as it would make the Democrats look “desperate.”
    Then there were those who emphasized they still strongly prefer that Mrs. Clinton head the ticket, even more than unlikely.
    Finally, some of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters indicated they would not vote for any Democratic ticket in November as a protest “against the Democratic National Committee,” which created further division within the party when it would not allow some states’ votes to count in the primary.
    As for Mr. Arnone, who is with Ernst & Young, he spoke with Mrs. Clinton last month when she threw a thank-you reception for her supporters in Manhattan.
    “If Hillary Clinton had looked me in the eye and said, ‘Bill, do for Barack Obama exactly what you were doing and would have done for me,’ then I would devote all of my energy to helping him and would encourage others to do the same,” he wrote in a recent op-ed.
    “Instead, what I heard was a candid acknowledgment that it is taking more time for some to transfer their enthusiasm to another candidate after so closely contested and contentious a campaign for the nomination.
    “Senator Clinton did say that she preferred that we make as our top priority uniting to elect a Democratic president in November. She offered, however, as an alternative that we work hard to elect more Democrats to the Senate.”

  36. “got power back tonight!!! and bill clinton and bush sr are teaming up again to fundraise to help-this time for houston and galveston!”

    ——

    Whew I bet that AC feels good, huh? You guys have really had it rough.

    Clinton? Clinton? I’ve heard the name somewhere. He’s that racist fella, isn’t he?

  37. hey does anyone have that clip of obama in pa ripping bill clinton’s economy? its gold and would be a great ad for mccain.

  38. texan4hillary

    I shake my head in total amazement that his supporters are still with him. Truly I’m dumbfounded.

    What on earth do they see as his saving grace? He’s turned his back on so many issues he professed he stood for in the primary.

    Admin has is sooooooooo right

    NObama can’t be trusted

  39. An old friend of mine from the 60’s with whom I have corresponded (he lives far away from me) off and on for all these years, has tried the Obama trick on me twice now. He has not changed his old lefty ways since we were protesters back in Berkeley and campaigned for Bobby. I grew up and became a centrist Clinton Democrat. He liked Kucinich. When he found out I was supporting Hillary, he began the Obama reasoning trick. When that didn’t work, he had the unmitigated gall to call me a racist. I gave him the cold shoulder after that and finally he started sending me cartoons, making nice, etc. When he started the Obama talking points again, I realized he was trying to play me. I let him go on for a while then let him know how angry I still am about the treatment Hillary got and told him I detest Obama (and all the reasons why) and that I’d never vote for this fraud-friend-of-terrorists in a million years. Silence. Funny how shallow they are. I’ll never forget this and I believe the so-called friendship is gone for good.

  40. debbie Says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
    the more I think about it I believe Hillary knew exactly what she was saying when she said NO way, NO how….(even though she added McCain to the end of it)

    I think it was her way of telling the NObama gang she heard them.
    *****************

    I don’t understand how peolpe try to read between the tea leaves. She said what she said. When she was running, people always thought she had a secret plan, she was going to use it to pull it out. It didn’t happen. It weirds me out. I don’t think for one moment she really backs the fraud, but I don’t get the tea leaf reading all the time.

  41. debbie Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 12:03 am

    ******************

    it is really astounding. it is like a mass hypnotic trance, pod people. Some people can not and will not ever support a Repub after Bush. it is almost impossible to reach them and it is really scary. i really don’t know what i will do if he is elected. I know my depression will be real and very deep.

  42. texan4hillary Says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
    hey does anyone have that clip of obama in pa ripping bill Clinton’s economy? its gold and would be a great ad for McCain.
    **********************

    especially with BC on Greta coming out and saying the fraud was now listening t o BC’s advisor’s, Rubin & co and that is why the fraud will be better than JM for the economy.

  43. Just sayin…an old friend of mine has tried the Obama trick on me twice now. After the last time of making nice, I told him that I will never forget how Hillary was treated (and enumerated all the ways) and that I will never vote for Obama in a million years, there’s now a loud silence. Guess there wasn’t much of a friend there after all. No loss.

  44. These O-bots are still in the twilight zone of denial. They just don’t get it. It’s not about a ‘wound’ or ‘cloture’. The treatment of Hillary and the ridiculous Dem primary system opened our eyes about the DNC. I can’t support the Democratic Party in a Presidential race unless they nominate a powerhouse like Hillary or Jim Webb, someone personally strong enough to transcend the DNC. But the DNC should not control the Executive Branch.

    Congress, yes. The White House, no.

  45. I think it’s tragic that they believe manipulation is a great strategy. I’m way beyond that. I changed my registration to Independent on 6/1. That farce of a R&B meeting was shocking and heartbreaking to me. No going back.

  46. gonzotx

    if your still here,

    do you remember her reference of the “sisterhood of the traveling paint suit” …

    look it up

  47. texanforhillary…glad you got your power back…hope things are falling into place for you and your family and friends…leave it to Bill to always being helping others while his enemies try to blame him for everything under the sun…

    did anyone see that dispicable article by some creep over at huff puff post trying to blame Bill if Obama loses…I could not believe it…I tried posting to refute but I doubt it will pass moderation…

    but this is what they are going to try to pull off…if obama loses it is either racism or bill’s fault…we must push back hard on this…

  48. texan4hillary Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    do we have a list of candidates hillary is backing? i kno she is helping lundsford defeat mcconel-

    =============

    See heidilipotpourri.blogspot

  49. And another one, this time from Mary Mitchell in Chicago.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1179168,CST-NWS-mitch23.article

    “The Democrats should take heed. If the party lets the bigots determine the outcome of the election, it will likely lose black support for decades to come.”

    I guess that’s supposed to be some kind of threat. These people are so annoying. Don’t they know that most of us started out favorably pre-disposed to voting for Obama in 2016 after he got a decent amount of seasoning? It’s only through getting to know him as high-information voters that we have come to despise him and the horse he rode in on.

  50. Obama ahead of McCain amid Wall St. turmoil: poll By JoAnne Allen
    24 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democrat Barack Obama has opened a 9-point lead over Republican John McCain in the U.S. presidential race amid turmoil in the financial system and growing pessimism about the economy, according to a Washington Post-ABC News national opinion poll released on Wednesday.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    Among likely voters, the poll found Obama now leads McCain by 52 percent to 43 percent. Two weeks ago the race was essentially even, with McCain at 49 percent and Obama at 47 percent, the Post reported.

    The financial crisis brought on the collapse of the credit market has become the No. 1 issue leading up to the November 4 presidential election.

    Fifty-two percent of those polled said they believe the economy has moved into a serious long-term decline.

    Eighty percent said they are concerned about the overall direction of the economy, nearly three-quarters worry about the shocks to the stock market, and six in 10 are apprehensive about their own family finances, the newspaper said.

    Half of the respondents called the economy and jobs the single most important issue that will determine their vote, up from 37 percent two weeks ago.

    The poll found Obama has a big edge as the candidate who is more in tune with the economic problems Americans now face, the Post said.

    The Illinois senator also has a double-digit advantage on handling the current problems on Wall Street, and as a result, there has been a rise in his overall support, the report said.

    Neither Obama nor McCain, an Arizona senator, has said he would oppose the Bush administration’s financial industry bailout plan being negotiated with Congress, although both have been critical of it.

    But the $700 billion price tag would almost certainly restrict the agenda and limit the number of costly programs advocated by whoever becomes the next president.

    Less than six weeks before the election, Independents now favor Obama, 53 percent compared with 39 percent for McCain. McCain had a small lead among these swing voters just after the Republican convention.

    Two weeks ago, McCain had a substantial advantage among white voters. Now the candidates run evenly among white women, and Obama has narrowed the overall gap among white voters to five percentage points, the Post said.

    The survey of 1,082 people, including 916 registered voters, was conducted Friday through Monday. The margin of error for the full sample is plus or minus three percentage points and four points for the sample of 780 likely voters.

    (Writing by Joanne Allen; Editing by Jackie Frank)

  51. good stuff in the NQ comments:

    MABlue, on September 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 pm Said:

    Because he did it so well, I’ll just reproduce Semidi’s brilliant presentation of the choices people have in this election.

    McSame

    If you want to vote for a man who:

    – has praised Ronald Reagan;

    – attacked Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal;

    – attacked Bill and Hillary Clinton;

    – attempted to undermine the public’s confidence in Social Security;

    – offered an education plan with many similarities to Bush’s “No Child Left Behind;”

    – is arguing that Bush’s tax cuts for the rich shouldn’t be allowed to expire;

    – favors Bush’s “Faith-Based Initiative;”

    – favors the death penalty;

    – thinks marriage is between a man and a woman;

    then by all means, vote for Barack Obama. Or John McCain. All of the above applies to BOTH men.

    Would you vote for such a candidate? Well, I won’t.

  52. My sense of it is that for every voter who will vote against a black candidate because he is black there is another who will vote for him because he is black.

    If I am right about that then the real question is this: does race trump qualification when it comes to the most difficult job in the world at the most difficult time in history?

    In due course swing state voters will answer that question. If the answer is yes, then he will win and thereafter implode. If the answer is no then he will lose. In that case centrist democrats can get out from under the bus.

    Either way partiasan hack Page and the rest of us will have to live with it, barring the unforseen.

  53. I see tension between Bambi and Biden. Bambi is a sleeze, Biden is not, ergo Biden will chafe when he is forced to toe the line on a sleezy narrative or commercial against McCain whom he considers a friend or Palin against whom he appears to harbor little or no animosity.

    If we can believe what they say about Will Rogers that he never met a man he did not like then he did not live long enough to meet Burton. Had he done so it might well have turned him into a hard core pessimist.

  54. as far as the polls are concerned, if they over sample either dems or repubs, they can show either candidate ahead. I don’t believe any of the polls that are coming out.

    as I said earlier, it’s just the pollsters way of keeping themselves in the news and appear relevant

  55. Double Standards

    CNN: Biden not holding press conferences, either

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/23/biden-not-holding-press-conferences-either/

    On Tuesday, John McCain held a press conference for the first time since becoming the Republican nominee, his first in six weeks. Much has been made of his running mate Sarah Palin not talking to the press corps traveling with her, and rarely sitting for interviews. But amid all the criticism of the Republican ticket avoiding the press, it has slipped the notice of many that Joe Biden isn’t giving press conferences either.

    His last media availability was over two weeks ago on September 7 aboard his campaign plane, flying from Montana to Wisconsin. He spoke for about half an hour, over a third of which was in response to a question about partitioning Iraq.

  56. http://time-blog.com/real_clear_poli…he_rescue.html

    SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY): As a New York senator, I am worried about the hard-working people losing their jobs and the ripple effect through our city and state economy. But I think it’s fair to say that we have to look at what we’re doing now from three different perspectives.

    We need to move to try to inject the liquidity that is being proposed by the Treasury into our markets for all of the obvious reasons that you and your viewers know so well. But I think there are some additional features that should be considered that I’ve been advocating for quite some time. Whether they’re done right now as part of this package or there’s a commitment that we do them immediately thereafter, we’ve got to do something about mortgage modification. We cannot pretend that we’re going to be dealing with the underlying economic crisis which is fueled by the collapse of the housing bubble by merely doing what we’re proposing to do with the banks and the investment firms to try to take out their illiquid debt. So mortgage modification needs to be a part of this.

    And to go then to the next step, I think there needs to be an entity created so that the Treasury is not managing this into the future. I don’t think that’s the best approach. So I have proposed –

    MR. COOK: Are you talking about independent auditors here?

    SEN. CLINTON: Well, that has to be done no matter what. Now, I’m talking about an entity like what we used during the Great Depression, the Homeowner Loan Corporation, which I have been promoting for about a year now because I saw this coming and I take, you know, just no satisfaction at all that we are in this terrible crisis that we’re going to work through.

    But what we have to do is come up with an entity that, like what we did 70 years ago, buys up these mortgages, can hold them, which a market entity cannot and, frankly, I don’t think the Treasury should be doing, then resell them. And this particular example ended up with a profit for the Treasury. We got our money back plus. I think we have to start working on that immediately and it is something that I’ve discussed with the Treasury, with the Fed, with the Congress, and with others because I don’t think the best way for us to do this for the longer term is to just put all of this authority into the hands of the Treasury, giving them this discretion without either the oversight or transitioning into another entity. And that’s what I’d like to see us do.
    ….

    SEN. CLINTON: Well, I think the basics will certainly be agreed to whether it’s the 700 billion or the great discretionary authority for the Treasury secretary. But I think it is appropriate for us to have some checks and balances here. I have a great deal of regard and respect for Secretary Paulson. I mean, I’ve known him, you know, since I was in college and he is a first-rate financial mind, but also a great American. And he’s trying to deal with what he has before us.

    But I think we’ve got to have some checks and balances. We’ve got to have some oversight and accountability. We need to not only stabilize the patient, but then we’ve got to look at the root causes and we have to put them in a new regulatory framework going forward. All of that has to be done. We can’t do all of that this week so we’re going to take the initial steps and, even with that, I think we’ve got to inject some of this accountability.

  57. We need one more and final gamechanger…the delusion that O will be better on the economy has to be turned around. Maybe in the debates, people will get the sinking feeling that O can’t lead a horse to water much less right the economy.

    Does O still think that raising taxes will help now? Or has he abandoned that last part of his campaign too?

  58. Couldn’t the Obama poll simply be a bump rather than an actual swing of voters? The economy has been forefront in the news which benefits whatever Democrat is running. Also, all the talk about race in recent days…wouldn’t that increase the Bradley effect? With this news wouldn’t even less people want to say they wouldn’t vote for a black man?

    Also, how is this comparing to other polls? They don’t all seem to match…

  59. debbie, I agree about the polls. They are being manipulated. A comment from NQ about the latest ABC poll’s internals:

    Comment by Patrick | 2008-09-24 04:07:00

    Talk about a completely FLAWED POLL:

    First off, the party weighting was INSANELY BIASED (38 dem, 28 repub, 29 independent, 5 other

    Excuse me…MORE indy’s than repubs? Ah, there’s no liberal bias at ABC or WaPo…holy freaking crap that’s sick!

    And then there’s this little bit of nuance that goes unnoticed unless you read the fine print..

    “This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone September 19-22, 2008, among a random national sample of 1,082 adults, 916 registered voters and 780 likely voters. The survey includes additional interviews with randomly selected African Americans, for a total of 163 black respondents. The added interviews (commonly referred to as an “oversample”) were completed to ensure there were enough African American respondents for separate analysis;”

    They say this 163 block was not ‘over-represented’ in the poll, but it WAS represented as an add on and they do NOT say how much!

    So please, post a legitimate poll, that one is absolute garbage.

  60. What in the hell are people thinking about??? This A-hole can not become CIC! What has happened to the republicans, why are they not throwing the book at Bambi?? This CROOK simply must not be our President! I don’t trust him with his own campaign funds, why would I trust him with my money!

  61. But amid all the criticism of the Republican ticket avoiding the press, it has slipped the notice of many that Joe Biden isn’t giving press conferences either
    ===========

    Perhaps he has eloped with Michelle.

  62. When are the republicans going with the October surprise. I tell you the whole news media is now for Obama, it is sickening!

  63. It’s the Primaries all over again.
    Slanted polls, biased media pushing a pro-obama narrative.
    The media telling us what we see and what we think.

    This is the same media that brought us bush and cheney.
    The same corporate whores that brought us the Iraq war, then demand that we turn tail and run.

    I’m telling you obama is a crook, a liar and a thief.
    The only way he can get into office is with deception, falsehoods,
    and corruption – VOTE STEALING. He has made a career out of it.
    It will be the order of the day. We will never get rid of this type of corruption if the fraud is elected.

  64. The polls are still close in several battle ground states….but a few that McC had comfortable leads in are now pretty much tied. VA, OH, plus the gains he was making in CO, MI have stalled.

    This doesn’t mean that people won’t go into the booth and say…….Do I really want to vote for O?…and also they still don’t know a lot about O.
    (Amazing how many think he voted in the Senate against the war). McCain needs one little push and he can grab most of the close states.

    I think that the “O and Ayers pushed radicalism on schools” should do it. The philosophy of their help in public schools was to teach students to stand up against the “racism and oppression” in America.
    O did for 6 years. The “just a guy in the neighbourhood” that Obama called Ayers is a direct lie. O gave Ayers’ projects $100 million and none of the Chicago schools they were supposed to help had any discernible improvement. None.

    Therefore we have O lying (again) and being hired and helping a radical communist to brainwash students into anti-Americanism. They wanted the students to only pledge allegiance to the world, not America. What a great U.S. prez he’ll make.

  65. Listening to Mike Gallagher on the radio. He is absolutely appalled that Larry King interviewed Iran President Ahmadinejad last night. Did anybody see this? I missed it.

    What the hell was Larry thinking, playing footsy with Ahmadinejad? Hello? Ahmadinejad wants to blow Israel off the map. Aren’t Jews in an uproar over this??

  66. There were apparently 4 primarily resposible for directing the annenberg money. BO was chairman of the board. how’d he get that position? And he was responsible for funneling all that money to Ayers.

    It’s quite clear their association was far more than casual as they met frequently to discuss the project.

    Another lie exposed.

  67. I read that more people died this year in Chicago,
    than US troops died in Iraq.
    So the cost in human treasure is higher in Chicago, trying to live amid
    the Chicago corruption, trying to survive amid tyranny and oppression,
    than it is in trying to develop a democracy in Iraq.
    The Iraqi’s that have been killed by al quida is parallel to the corrupt
    people in Chicago, that would use intimidation and violence to preserve their power and influence over its citizens.
    What has 0bama done to help Chicago? Where are the real and tangible improvements that he has made to help it’s citizenry?
    WHAT HAS HE DONE TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE?
    nOTHING. jUST A CURSURY TABLE SCRAP, WHILE HE AND HIS PALS
    LINE THEIR POCKETS. tHAT IS WHAT HE WILL DO FOR THIS COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
    tHAT IS WHY i’LL never VOTE FOR THIS fraud.

  68. In the media hoo-ha about putting a reporter in Sarah’s meetings with world leaders, is that normal when private meetings are held?

    And if so, where are the reporter’s notes on the meeting O held with the Iraqi leaders where he asked them to delay withdrawal plans?

  69. One cable channel had a runner saying that Obama was doing better in the battle ground states and then had O up by 7 in IA and up by 2 in Minn.

    The problem with that is that O was up by 14 and 12 in IA and has slumped to only 2 in very blue state: Minn.

  70. There is a wave of anti-American sentiment that is a real threat
    across the globe.
    Obama and his ilk cannot even salute the flag, cannot even honor those that have served out country with honor – or their families.

    Ayers, the flag stomping terrorist, best buds with bambi.
    It is shameful that he has gotten as far as he has.
    Who is Alsamarrae and why did he support 0bama.
    Who is Auchi? There is a boatload of questionable persons supporting
    this fraud. Why? Why do they even know him? What is in it for them?
    They are not altruists. They do not care about us.
    0bama has made a deal with the devil, and we will pay dearly if this fraud gets elected.

  71. Damn the alleged ‘news’ media for the corporate whores that they are.
    This is how hitler got into power.
    Telling everyone that it is alright, it is only those guys and that they deserve to be relocated. Disenfranchised and disaffected.
    It’s okay, they deserve it. They broke the ‘rules’.
    Never mind that the dnc broke all its own rules. Never mind that
    millions of votes – 18 million were cast aside all in the name of unity.
    Never mind that the progressives would look down at Palin and her dear child, and tell her she should have had an abortion.
    Isn’t that is what hitler did? Eugenics?
    0bama is a sociopath.

  72. Palin Gaining Support Among Gays

    Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:22 PM
    By: Tim Collie Article Font Size

    Sarah Palin is gaining support from an unlikely group: gay and lesbian Alaskans.

    Despite her evangelical Christian roots, some openly gay residents of towns throughout Alaska describe Palin as more of a libertarian in her approach to same-sex issues in the Land of the Midnight Sun.

    Writing on several blogs, men and women who describe themselves as openly gay say the governor is known for her tolerance and warmth. They dismiss her opposition to same-sex marriage and other issues as political posturing.

    A vast state with a small population — fewer than 700,000 people — the Palin supporters describe a go-along, get-along approach to governing that they hope will serve as a template if the McCain-Palin ticket wins in November, they say.

    Nobody is suggesting such support could tip the election. Gay activist groups, with a few notable exceptions, tend to support Democrats. Palin, though, seems to have found some backers among former Hillary Clinton supporters, as well as established gay conservative groups like the Log Cabin Republicans.

    Writing on Pajamas Media, blogger B. Daniel Blatt writes that “some Hillary Democrats who had been pulling for McCain since their candidate lost are pleased, with one e-mailing me to say that the Republican ticket is one he is “enthusiastic about and I’m honestly surprised by that, having never entertained the thought of voting Republican before (with the exception of Schwarzenegger).”

    He adds that Palin’s selection “has brought together left-leaning lesbians and Hillary-supporting gay men concerned about Barack Obama’s qualifications with gay conservatives unhappy with McCain’s frequent departures from party orthodoxy.”

    The support comes despite Palin’s support of a 1998 constitutional amendment barring state recognition of same-sex marriage, and her more recent support of a state ballot question that would deny benefits to homosexual couples. Also, Palin has been a member of at least one church that believe homosexuality is curable, like a disease.

    Eric DeLand, an openly gay man who lives in the Kenai area of Alaska and knows Palin, said, “They may not agree with her on everything, but they agree with enough; they’re happy with McCain’s decision to pick Sarah.

    “I’ve never seen her mistreat anyone for being gay or for whatever,” he said, adding that many Alaskans are more libertarian than doctrinaire conservative. “You live your life and I live mine; we’ll all just get along.”

    That sentiment is shared by other gay bloggers in conservative strongholds.

    The blogger Queer Conservative, who lives in the red state of South Carolina, says he’s giving McCain a chance because of Palin. Choosing the Alaskan “showed me that he will listen, that he will change his mind if he thinks it’s the right decision. He won’t be stubborn like Bush even in the face of evidence he’s wrong.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/politics/palin_gay_support/2008/09/18/132125.html
    *****************************************************
    For those who think Obama is pro-gay, they are in denial. He will throw them under the bus quickly because there is not benefit for him and those who are his strongest supporters…like NOI and others don’t have a positive view.

    You have to look at Obama previous behavior and his prior action with Mayor Gavin Neusom by refusing to shake his hand or have his picture taken when he visited his city.

  73. Received this email from the DSCC and Donna Brazile the other day;tried to post it on an earlier article but it did not go through. Below is the email she sent me, using my real name email address – which she had to get from nObama after he took over the Hillarydotcom site – the ONLY way she could have gotten it. My reply appears first. Any amens in my corner?
    ———————————–
    STOP THE HATE FOR WHITE FEMALES, DONNA! You told us you did not need us; you did not want us; we could just stay home; that we were not part of the NEW coalition of AA’s, Elites, Urban, and the YOUNG!!

    STOP THE HATE FOR WHITE FEMALES, DONNA AND KEEP YOUR PROMISE TO LEAVE THE DNC AND undemocratic Democratic Party!!!

    Do it NOW, Donna, we do not want you anymore!!!!!!!!

    nObama. NO way. NO how. Hillary Republican for McCain/Palin 2008

    [my real name] ShortTermer

    ———————————————————From: Donna Brazile [mailto:info@dscc.org]
    Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:51 PM
    To: [my real email adddress]
    Subject: Out of touch

    Dear [my real first name – barf barf barf],

    Everything Democrats fight for comes down to these last 42 days.

    Universal health care, energy independence ending the war in Iraq – it all hangs in the balance.

    All that stands in the way is John McCain and a group of Republican senators who have blocked more legislation than any Congress in U.S. history.

    You and I and every other committed Democrat must be dedicated to electing Barack Obama and defeating Republicans wherever we find them.

    Forty-two days remain and from Alaska to Mississippi, Democratic Senate candidates are positioned to unseat at least eleven Republicans.

    These candidates depend on the DSCC — the DSCC depends on thousands of activists just like you. They need $4.4 million to reach the last quarterly goal of the cycle and to maintain a fighting chance to win the nine seats necessary for a filibuster-proof majority.

    All of us have to do our part to meet this critical goal. Even as little as $5 from you gets the DSCC one step closer to victory.

    Please rush a contribution of $5 or more to the DSCC to help them win a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority. Give now and a group of Democratic Senators will raise $2 for every $1 you give. That triples the impact of your money!

    I cannot stress enough how urgent your help is. Here’s why:

    McCain/Palin are radically out of touch with the American people but they have fired up the Republican base in a big way. Republicans may have been demoralized during the primaries, but those days are over. They will be turning out in full force to support Republicans up and down the ticket.

    They want this thing every bit as bad as we do, and as you can see from the rapid fire GOP attacks on your TV every night they will stop at nothing to win.

    I for one will not be outworked or outhustled by the Republicans. And neither will the DSCC.

    They’re flooding battleground states with staff and volunteers and they’re helping drive our message of change. Most importantly, DSCC Chairman Sen. Chuck Schumer has instituted a rule that every single GOP attack must be answered unequivocally within 24 hours.

    I’m telling you, we’re taking it to the Republicans, but we are out of time. We need thousands of contributions to get us to $4.4 million in a few days otherwise Democratic Senate candidates will get short shrift and we will lose races we could have and should have won.

    It may not sound like much, but even $5 from you can be part of a massive wave of grassroots energy that can and will win these Senate races. I know you can have a huge impact.

    Please rush a contribution of $5 or more to the DSCC to help them win a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority. Give now and a group of Democratic Senators will raise $2 for every $1 you give. That triples the impact of your money!

    No matter what the polls say, Election Day will come down to the wire.

    The race for the White House and a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority will be decided purely by who wants it the most.

    How badly do you want to take our country back?

    Sincerely,

    Donna Brazile
    —————————————————

    D- Donna always and only
    E- encourages me to be
    A- against the undemocratic Democratic Party and FOR
    R- the Republican candidates – the true mavericks and reformers and above all PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

    Donna Brazile, do my country a favor and leave it, NOW! Go to Iran or somewhere equally picturesque – AND DO NOT COME BACK!!!! And while you are at it, take your candidate, his wife, and THE HORSE THEY ALL RODE IN ON!!!

  74. For those who think Obama is pro-gay, they are in denial. He will throw them under the bus quickly because there is not benefit for him and those who are his strongest supporters…like NOI and others don’t have a positive view.

    You have to look at Obama previous behavior and his prior action with Mayor Gavin Neusom by refusing to shake his hand or have his picture taken when he visited his city.

    …Obama is for nothing but himself. Everything in his life has been structured to bring him greater power with less effort. those kissing his ass right now will be thrown under the bus the minute their usefulness is over. and that is everybody. so don’t even contemplate about wheter he is for this or that cause – because he is not. We should know that by now.

  75. …”Obama joked, “If I had gone last I would have known what the game was. I could have said ‘well you know I like to help old ladies across the street. Sometimes they don’t want to be helped. It’s terrible.’”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/18/politics/fromtheroad/entry3726679.shtml – 83k –

    0bama doesn’t just have a problem with women, he doesn’t care much
    for persons of a mature age or perspective as well.
    And the press thinks it is funny. HA HA big laugh.
    Sure it’s funny until you realize that they are laughing not with you, but at you.

  76. MIDem, can you answer the one burning question I have about your state of Michigan? I am in central Florida, and I know how MOST of us, here in FL, who supported, and worked for, and campaigned for Hillary during the primary feel about the DNC/Reid/Pelosi/Dean/Brazile/Obama hijacking of the votes and delegates for their unelectable candidate – and that is nObama, NOT NOW, NOT EVER – even if he had a gold plated wife.
    I keep a close eye on the polls and such in MI because the citizens there received pretty much the same bamboozling and okie doke as Floridians. My question is why do the polls, reports, and media not show a resounding rejection for this fraudulent candidate in the state of Michigan? Are the people just not being represented fairly? Please explain.
    ———————————-
    HillaryforTexas Says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
    ShortTermer, I would like to start spreading the meme that Obama plans to be “well-coached” for the debate.

    That’s what they said endlessly about Plain giving some good answers to Gibson – that she wasn’t really good, she was just WELL-COACHED.
    ————————————–
    What TexasforHillary said – blog it everywhere 44ers.

  77. I think big media is the real racist here–dont you?They have refused to vet him, to evaluate him in an objective light, to hold him accountable in any way for his mistakes and his sleeze, as they would any other politican. Why is that?

    Is it perchance his ivy league education? No. Hillary is graduate of Wellsely and Yale and that is as Ivy League as you can get and they did everything they possible could to destroy her personally and politically. Is it perchance his youth? Nope. Palin is about his age and they savage her every chance they get–which is okay in their book because she is a woman. Is it his experience, judgement, and moral courage? Assumes facts not in evidence. Is it becasuse he is the spawn of the most corrupt political machine in the country. No they never worry about that. Is it because he is a free trader and an elitist like them. Yea that is a big part of it. Well, what else is there?

    Race–he can’t let go of it and neither can they. It is their constant affirmative defense against any attempt at critical thinking and analysis. Do you remember the battle cry of that buffoon for all seasons John Kerry, i.e. vote for Bambi BECAUSE of his race, and by inference dont let the fact that he is unqualified stop you. That is essentially what the press is saying as well–but they threaten us with being racist if we look at any other factor–like qualification, etc.

    The vote for him because he is black argument would have some legitimancy IF he was qualified. In times past Irish ward healers have said vote for him because he is one of us, etc. But in this case it is false and disingenouous because he is not qualified and these are dangerous times for the county–and hardly the ideal moment for social engineering. The future is at stake.

    The question we are left with is given our history do we really advance the cause of racial justice in this country by electing a candidate who lacks the experience judgement and moral courage for the positon, and who will polarize the country much as he has the deocratic party. Nobody is thinking about that question now. But if he wins the election, there will come a time when they do and the country will rue the day but by then it will be far too late–nor all your tears wash away a word of it, etc.

    does not take a rocket scientist to realize the perils of electing an incompetent president for the sake of race relations and seeing him fail. The wrong message gets sent. Or it is like Greshoms Law–the bad money (Barack) drives out the good (other black politicans who could do great things for the country.

    In the end, now good will come of this.

    He cannot handle objective criticism he cannot be counted on in a crisis situation and he is a one trick poney–yet another speech. He is not presidential material which means among other things that if we screw up and elect him it will be more like a regency as we say in England when the official monarch was not competent to govern for by reason of age or mental capacity. In this case, it is partly his emotional make-up and partly his fundamental ignorance about government and his dearth of experience. If he wins the country is in for a perfect storm–no doubt about it.

  78. I read yesterday (don’t know if it’s true)
    that the persons that bought the other half of the Rezko/0bama
    lot wound up murdered(stabbed) and then his son who had inherited
    the piece of property wound up(allegedly)killing himself.

    I always wondered why anyone would sell half their lot of property
    to embellish a neighbors lot, only to make their own lot undevelopable
    because it does not meet zoning requirements for size.

    5 hours of work, my eye.
    Why would the American public tolerate such a liar and a fraud?

    Look out America, you are in for a rough ride should 0bama get into the White House.

  79. sorry. please disgard the part after rocket scientist–fragments from an earlier draft which I deleted because they are too worrisome. The main point is we have got to get McCain to win but at the moment he is stalled from the looks of things.

  80. This is being circulated in emails. It will make a perfect tshirt and I will design and print one for myself and my daughter. The saying follows:

    PSALM 2008-2012

    First book of Democrat

    Obama is my Shepherd, I shall not want.

    He Leadeth me beside still Factories

    He Restoreth my faith in the Republican Party

    He Guideth me in the Path of Unemployment

    Yea, Though I walk through the Valley of the Bread Line, I shall not go Hungry.

    Obama has Anointed my Income with Taxes, My Expenses Runneth over my Income,

    Surely, Poverty and Hard Living Will Follow me all the Days of my Life.

    The Democrats and I will Live Forever in a Rented home.

    But I am Glad I am an American, I am glad that I am Free.

    But I Wish I was a Dog and Obama a Tree.
    ——————————————

    Hey, maybe we should email this Psalm to Donna Brazile.

  81. The republicans engineered obama candidacy to destroy the Hillary and the Roosevelt wing of the party–that much is clear. They knew they could beat him. Well . . . . . . . Where are the howitizers?

  82. I emailed Donna the Psalm 2008-2012 saying and asked her if she wanted a tshirt. It felt good.

    Let’s show the Big Dawg some love today. Subscribe or join his CGI – Clinton Global Intitative – a nonpartisan effort. Email address follows:

    Clinton Global Initiative [enews@clintonfoundation.org]

  83. Short Termer,
    The best I can figure it is the Michigan economy.
    We have been twisting in the wind for decades. It has really been rough and there is no end in sight.
    Some people equate McCain w/ bush. Or fear them similar.
    Those that did not vote for Hillary seem not affected by the travesty
    put upon us. I don’t understand it myself.
    But the game is not over. We won’t know until NOvember.
    Of all my relatives that all staunch and loyal Dems, only a few support
    0bama. Most see his disrespect and doubletalk and will not vote for him. However, I am seriously concerned with voter fraud in favor of bambi.

  84. The free Sarah Movement from Campbell Brown is just another tactic to find out want Sarah Palin is about before the VP debate and go wanrn the Obama campaign.

  85. Obamatron Rep Patrick Murphy (PA 8) caught with his pants down. In a largely republican district where he only won by 1500 votes 2 years ago he was caught sleeping at the wheel as his opponnent Tom Manion has been running tv ads for over a week and is just now getting his own ads on tv. The problem with Murphy’s ad is that it is too long and viewers will just tune it out.

  86. MIDem, please encourage every concerned citizen there to volunteer for the polling places in your state of Michigan. I have visited the local Republican headquarters and informed them of how nObama and his minions stole votes, delegates and the primary; and I asked them what are they doing to ensure that the general election is not stolen by Obama; I have also informed them that is my greatest fear – an Obama stolen general election.
    Any way, no matter how small, that we might help in informing the real Americans in MI about the dangers of Obama?
    Also, I would like to encourage Michigan citizens to look up the YouTube of Detroit City Council Meetings, especially Conyers whose husband is in politics.

    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOSNI7l0bQ

    If this is typical of politics in Michigan – there is no hope for America in this election. There are other YouTubes of Conyers and the council meetings in Detroit. Does Monica Conyers remind us of anyone else whose husband is trying to get elected?
    ——————
    Take out the spaces in above link to access it.

  87. Old Media Pushes False ‘Rape Kit’ Charge Against Gov. Palin
    By Warner Todd Huston
    September 24, 2008 – 06:20 ET

    newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/24/old-media-pushes-false-rape-kit-charge-against-gov-palin

  88. 0bama will tax the daylights out of everyone.
    People will not be able to afford to do anything, or to go anywhere.
    No new business, no lending, no liquidity.
    Like the internet? freedom of speech and access to information?
    It will be a memory.
    Just look at the way the fraud limits comments on his you tube videos.
    Look at the way he scrubs his website as soon as someone finds something objectionable or questionable.
    scrubbed, like it never even happened.

    0bama is no leader, and has no appreciation for American values of responsibility and accountability.

  89. What the hell was Larry thinking, playing footsy with Ahmadinejad? Hello? Ahmadinejad wants to blow Israel off the map. Aren’t Jews in an uproar over this??
    ——————————————-
    It is de riguer for cnn. They are no different than bambi. High tea with Americas worst enemies. Questionable and self serving for a new organization. Unaccepatable for a presidnetial candidate who will fuck things up 10 ways from sunday then lie about it. Like telling Iraq not to negotitate truth withdrawal with the Bush Administation/

  90. Yep.

    Monica Conyers, wife of John Conyers, with her self righteous indignation. Both strong supporters of 0bama.

    This is what happens when one considers themself above the law,
    or the ‘rules’ or polite protocol. absolutely unDemocratic, if you ask me.

    Chicago politics isn’t just for Chicago.

  91. Is anybody listening to Joe Biden in Ohio giving his foreign policy speech?

    This is support to be a major foreign policy speech? This is a campaign speech and I think Joe Biden will not help Obama cause.

  92. I hope Biden sees the danger this reckless excuse of a candidate poses
    for this country and does his danged best to derail his campaign.

  93. With Larry King being Jewish himself, I found it very inappropriate for him to be interviewing this monster
    ——————————————–
    I do too. They temporize with evil/

  94. Great and inspired administrator. Let us make sure that the “Chosen One” loses big in November and that Hillary is able to rise again in 2012.

    Say no to Obamacrap. NOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  95. mp Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088995/posts

    more on this bo pakistan.visit i9n 1981…read the COMMENTS…

    hassan ..his rich, occidental colllege friends …doing drugs etc living in armonk
    Siddiqqi…his illegal pakistani friend…now q drug addict living in seattle!!!
    ——————————————
    the link says no such thread. Is the above an accurate summary?

  96. Oh and we should try to get our message through CNN, Newsvine, Huffington Post, MSNBC etc.

    Let’s post the hell out of them. We are still here you Bas——!

  97. So if the first presidential debate is supposed to be about domestic issues, you would think Obama would have an edge.

    What makes me think that he will announce his plagiarized economic plans at this meeting? He has to know that McCain is going to come on strong about his silence up until now.

  98. Fox is airing the Biden “Foreign Policy” Speech in Cincinnati Ohio. And Larry King, having high tea with Ahmadinejad????
    I strongly agree with what wobbei said: What the hell was Larry thinking, playing footsy with Ahmadinejad? Hello? Ahmadinejad wants to blow Israel off the map. Aren’t Jews in an uproar over this?? Is Larry King still a Jew after this heresy?
    Un-stupid-beleivable!!!!!

    What is this world coming to? Up is down and wrong is right and bailouts are the responsiblity of the taxpayers who did everything right and American!!!!!

    nObama. NO WAY. NO HOW. NEVER.

  99. NObama NO way No how.

    NO to corruption, no to theft, no to disenfranchisement,
    no to thugging and strong arm tactics.
    No to exploitation of racial tensions and fears, no to racist hatred,
    no to misogynic hatred, no to homophobia and no to exclusion.
    No to class wars, no to age wars.
    No to cronyism, no to excuses, no to cheap talk with no results.
    No to terrorists, no to obamapologists, no to voting present.
    No to media propaganda, no to the brownshirts,
    NO TO ANTi-AMERICANISM.

  100. wbboei:
    I managed to review the comments:

    Yesterday Moononpluto mentioned the article on thos 1981 trip to Pakistan….

    And BO mentioned his 2 friends….inn his first book

    hassan in occidental college, pasadena
    sadiq…as an illegal roomate (not going to college) while BO went to Columbia…

    BO himself menntioned the pakistan trip in 1981 at a private fundraiser…I am hearing that
    no US citizens were supposed to go to pakistan then as it was under martial law….and reports that BO used
    an indonesian passport to travel there..

  101. Another thing BO has said in his speeches has perked my ears up. He has mentioned India Pakistan problem about Kashmir and with pro-Pakistani bent. He generally seems to have a pro-Muslim view of many of these conflicts.

  102. pm317:

    That is why I was interested and absolutely delighted that Sarah palin was meeting the pakistani President as well
    as the PM of india today.

    that was smart!!!

  103. Another thing BO has said in his speeches has perked my ears up. He has mentioned India Pakistan problem about Kashmir and with pro-Pakistani bent. He generally seems to have a pro-Muslim view of many of these conflicts.
    ——————————————–
    No question about it. And where that train will ultimately lead God only knows.

  104. GIMME A “REAL” POLL:

    debbie Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 3:25 am
    as far as the polls are concerned, if they over sample either dems or repubs, they can show either candidate ahead. I don’t believe any of the polls that are coming out.

    as I said earlier, it’s just the pollsters way of keeping themselves in the news and appear relevant
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    I’ll provide you a foolproof poll with 100% accurate “sampling”: The November 4th Election.

    Well, you know, aside from vote tampering, etc. But given Obama’s history, I’m not sure who the “bad guys” will be this time around, vis-a-vis fraudulent votes, vote suppression, ballot box rigging, etc.

    What a world! What a world!

  105. I just read on a blog that JSM had a press conference call today, and CALLED OUT the pollsters for trying to subvert the polls. He said that they changed their sampling methodology this week to put Obama up more.

    Yup. It is not the same sampling they were using before. If they used the SAME sample percentages that they had been using two weeks ago, McCain would be up.

  106. wbboei Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
    Florida Hispanics sticking with GOP
    ———————————————-
    No surprise. Cubans, god bless them.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    I have new found respect for them, now. My how things change.

  107. wbboei:

    you are right..that link has gone down now….I reviewed many comments earlier in the day there.

    But wahtever the link, I stand by my understanding about this issue on pakistan..

    the key one being how did he travel there in 1981 when it was under martial law.. and what passport did he use.

  108. Biden, Obama helped keep ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ alive

    DEWEY BEACH, Delaware (CNN) — Although Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden routinely mocks his Republican counterpart, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for her onetime support of the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” Biden and his running mate voted to keep the project alive twice.

    Both Biden and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voted to kill a Senate amendment that would have diverted federal funding for the bridge to repair a Louisiana span badly damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Senate records show.

    And both voted for the final transportation bill that included the $223 million earmark for the Alaska project.

    An amendment offered by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, would have stripped the money appropriated to connect the Alaskan coastal city of Ketchikan to its airport on sparsely populated Gravina Island and diverted the money to Louisiana.

    But Biden andObama and 80 of their colleagues rejected the measure, an amendment to a massive 2005 transportation bill that funded thousands of projects across the country. VideoWatch how Biden has blasted Palin »

    “That is probably the most disturbing element of this and the campaigning on the Bridge to Nowhere,” said Bill Allison of the Sunlight Foundation, a taxpayer watchdog group. “Because, yes, they had a chance to vote specifically against the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska to redirect the money to people, to bridges and infrastructure damaged by Hurricane Katrina going in to New Orleans, and they chose not to.”

    The final version passed the Senate 93-1. Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has made his opposition to congressional “pork-barrel” spending a cornerstone of his campaign, did not vote on either the Coburn amendment or the final bill.

    Palin, whom McCain chose as his running mate in August, has regaled crowds at the Republican convention and on the campaign trail with her declaration of “Thanks, but no thanks” for the bridge. But her conversion came after she became Alaska’s governor in 2006 and after the bridge became a national symbol of congressional waste.

    The record shows that she supported the bridge as a gubernatorial candidate, and Democrats have seized on the flip-flop, perhaps no one with as much relish as Biden.

    “I got also a bridge I got to sell you here, and guess what, it’s in Alaska, and it goes nowhere,” Biden mocked Palin on the campaign trail last week in Maumee, Ohio. And in Canton, Ohio, he tied it to McCain.

    “If you look at it John McCain’s answers for the economy, and we’re in such desperate shape, is the ultimate bridge to nowhere. It’s nowhere,” Biden said. “It takes you nowhere.”

    But while the applause line appealed to the Democratic faithful, it could come back to bite the Delaware senator.

    This year, Delaware has requested 116 congressional earmarks through Biden, its longtime senator, at a cost to taxpayers of $342 million. In an appearance on CNN’s “American Morning” with anchor John Roberts, Biden said that he had been open about those requests and that they all can be justified.

    “Everyone has seen them, and we have no Lawrence Welk Museums and have no bridges to nowhere in Delaware. It’s all straight up,” Biden said.

    Among his requests: $1 million for renovation of an opera house in Wilmington, another million for the construction of a children’s museum and thousands of dollars for a water park renovation in Lewes.

    “I think opera patrons generally can afford to — you can raise money for an opera house; you can refurbish things a lot of different ways,” Allison said.

    “To have federal taxpaying dollars — which is coming from people all over the country; low-income, middle-income people, as well as the wealthy — to go to pay for the renovation of something that is really a luxury for Wilmington … There are far more vital projects that anyone could think of that needs money. You got health care. You got education. You got all other types of things. Instead, we are redirecting money to refurbish an opera house in Wilmington or to build a children’s museum.”

    And Biden’s request includes a bridge that even the head of the Rehoboth Beach-Dewey Beach Chamber of Commerce says is not crucial at this juncture.

    The Indian River Inlet Bridge is a vital link between two popular beachfront towns: Dewey and Bethany. Without it, the estimated 30,000 summer visitors would have to travel an additional 35 minutes to get to the towns.

    “We need a new bridge, and we are fortunate to be at a place where it is finally going to happen,” said Carol Everhart, the chief of the Chamber of Commerce.

    The existing bridge has some erosion problems, and if it ever collapsed, Everhart said, it would cause an economic disaster in the community. But it’s safe for now.

    “The bridge, as it is, is perfectly safe,” she said.

    Still, Biden asked for $13 million to help shore up the existing bridge and begin construction of a new one. And that’s what troubles the Sunlight Foundation’s Allison.

    “This bridge is not in any danger of collapse, and essentially what Sen. Biden is doing is saying, ‘My state bridge gets the priority dollar even though it is not a priority project,’ ” Allison said.

    He said the Department of Transportation, rather than U.S. senators, should be deciding which bridges get priority funding in the country. That way, the bridges in the U.S. that need immediate repair would be first in line for the dollars needed to do the work.

    As he embarked on his presidential bid in 2007, Obama said he would no longer ask for earmark projects. McCain, who has been a longtime critic of the process, does not seek any for his home state of Arizona.

    CNN asked Biden’s campaign whether it could ask the senator about his earmark requests and his votes on the Bridge to Nowhere.

    In response, a staffer e-mailed, “You’ve interviewed Gov. Palin re: her completely made up position on the Bridge to Nowhere right?”

    CNN’s Marcus Hooper contributed to this report.

  109. Funny Polls

    I bet you these media types who are in the tank for Obama sit around pondering what they can do to help him.

    Inside WashPost headquarters…

    “Say, this crisis in confidence in the economy SHOULD be helping Obama. I can’t see why his numbers aren’t going up from this. Can’t we sample it to give him just a ray of hope. Because if McCain keeping making progress, this thing will be over before Nov. 4th. How are we going to sell papers if it’s not an exciting horse race?? Besides, a little encouraging news for Obama might just help offset the shellacking Obama will get over the next three debates. And Obama no longer is the only “celebrity candidate”, with the Sarah broad in the picture. Isn’t there some other ways to find snarky put downs of her, to caricaturize her as a rube mayor of a small town? Go on, find some dirt. Make it happen.”

  110. # wbboei Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Another thing BO has said in his speeches has perked my ears up. He has mentioned India Pakistan problem about Kashmir and with pro-Pakistani bent. He generally seems to have a pro-Muslim view of many of these conflicts.
    ——————————————–
    No question about it. And where that train will ultimately lead God only knows.
    ———————

    My concern here is India wants no outside intervention in this Kashmir problem and if BO makes pro-Pakistani overtures, it will be adding fuel to fire (US so far has kept itself out of this conflict and definitely from taking sides). If BO’s US takes Pakistan’s side, then watch for China and Russia to take India’s side all of which will not bode well for the rest of the world. I don’t have any objections whatever to being sympathetic to Muslim grievances in all their conflicts all over the world, but I also fault their community for not moving forward on other fronts like education, economy — why do they always have to have this crutch and depend on victimhood even to the detriment of their own progress? Savagepolitics had a wonderful video of an author from LA who is a Muslim woman who was taking her communities all over the world to task on not focusing on real progress.

  111. Hwc: thanks for posting the mccain clips on mccain. I have no clue as to what percentage of the likely voter base are computer literate today. But somehow this is the kind of stuff that needs to get out because it is more than mere campaign rhetoric it is truth–which trancends party label.

    The issue for voters is whom do you trust. I would frame it as follows:

    In a time of national peril, to whom should we entrust our future:

    a. a rookie candidate who bears the label of democrat but has no track record of success, no record of reform and has consistently favored big money interests over those of ordinary people, is a media darling and happens to be black? or-

    b. an experienced candidate who is a steady hand at the tiller, has risked his life for the country and bears the label of republican but has fought to reform government, is no fan of the media and happens to be white?

    Congress is likely to stay democatric so do we want Obama in charge of everything–with his fragile ego, vindictive tendencies who no one can control/ Ultimately, do we want a dictator?

  112. Joe Biden had a pained look on his face as he read all about The Hustlers atributes and the great things he will do for this country.The speech was prepared for joe on Hustlers favorite play thing The Teleprompter aka his pen pal.Just about everything that Biden credited Hustler for were all of Hillarys ideas and her plans for her presidential agenda.Joe you are throwing away your accomplishments and fine reputation that you have enjoyed as a senator from Delaware.You chose to crawl in bed with the Hustler and you have now been degraded and marginalized as one of his lipstick and perfume soaked admirers.You sold your soul to the Hustler that will take you down with him to the bottom of the hole that both of you are digging deeper and deeper.

    By ABM90

  113. Joe crirtizes Sara for supporting the bridge and later opposing it, whereas I would say all is well that ends well. Whereas for Barcrack and Joe it did not end nearly as well:
    ———————————————
    Both Biden and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voted to kill a Senate amendment that would have diverted federal funding for the bridge to repair a Louisiana span badly damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Senate records show.

    And both voted for the final transportation bill that included the $223 million earmark for the Alaska project.
    ———————————————
    Oh what tangled webs we weave
    When first we practice to deceive

  114. Joe you are throwing away your accomplishments and fine reputation that you have enjoyed as a senator from Delaware.You chose to crawl in bed with the Hustler and you have now been degraded and marginalized
    ———————————————
    ABM 90: spot on. That is the position he finds himself in and there is no light at the end of that tunnel.

  115. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    I just read on a blog that JSM had a press conference call today, and CALLED OUT the pollsters for trying to subvert the polls. He said that they changed their sampling methodology this week to put Obama up more.

    Yup. It is not the same sampling they were using before. If they used the SAME sample percentages that they had been using two weeks ago, McCain would be up.

    *****
    this is not the sampling that I knew.

  116. gawd, I hope the republicans start pushing back on the methodology of these f*cked up polls…

    we noted the skewing back during the primary that they were weighted to put BO on top, and then, cherry picked by the press -whether outlier or not – to be THE POLL everyone should talk about. I’m so sick of the collusion. How the hell is BO doing it? how is he paying them?

  117. My concern here is India wants no outside intervention in this Kashmir problem and if BO makes pro-Pakistani overtures, it will be adding fuel to fire (US so far has kept itself out of this conflict and definitely from taking sides).
    ——————————————–
    pm: exactly. Bush gave India our nuclear technology with full support from Congress. Big business on the eve of Y2K gave them our softward technology and outsourced all those computer call center related jobs. And Pakistan is what you might call unstable. So after Obama kills universal heath care, transfers a trillion dollars to Africa on his global poverty initiative he will probably get us into a big jam with India and will have to ask his pal Chavez to intervene and help out. Peyote anyone?

  118. Biden is not going to bring up the Bridge to nowhere but Palin might after all, she got rid of it, and Biden voted for it diverting money from Katrina.

    She has a upper hand on that one if they dare dredge it up.

  119. I just heard something, ever so faintly. Do you hear it? It is getting louder now. Louder still. Even louder now. Do you hear it? I hear it all the way down here in Florida. Wait. I think I recognize the voice, even as pained as it sounds. It is a wait now. I can make out the words. The words are so plaintively crying, seems like in agony……

    I WANT HILLARY BACK. I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE, HILLARY COULD TAKE IT LIKE A MAN CAUSE SHE HAS TWO AND I DON’T AND SHE WON’T LET ME BORROW HERS………HILLARY, YOU ARE THE BETTER CANDIDATE….HILLARY YOU PLANS ARE SOUND……..HILLARY, I CAN NO LONGER SHILL FOR THIS ABERRATION!!!!PLEASE COME BACK, HILLARY I DON’T WANT THE VP SLOT ANYMORE.

    Then there is a very very loud THWACK! Obama just hit Biden in the teeth and told him to STFU.

    Can you hear it yet?

  120. Most of the media are invested in Wall Street so they are afraid and feel comforted by seeing Bill and Hillary Clinton in the news saying the the race favor the Democrats.

    Obama is not Bill or Hillary Clinton he has his own agenda that he will push. The media is saying the Republicans don’t do well with the economy because they are invested in the Bailout Package.

    The more I read and hear about this Bailout the more I’m leaning to caution and restraint…I don’t think any Bailout should be rush through without Congress oversight and other safeguards. And it should NOT include any Student Loans or under performing credit financials that does not involve the Housing Crisis.

    I’m just not getting a clear picture of what is happening on wall street other then to save people jobs.

    I also think the polls are reflecting the fear coming off of the tv anchors and Obama fearmongering.

  121. gawd, I hope the republicans start pushing back on the methodology of these f*cked up polls…

    we noted the skewing back during the primary that they were weighted to put BO on top, and then, cherry picked by the press -whether outlier or not – to be THE POLL everyone should talk about. I’m so sick of the collusion. How the hell is BO doing it? how is he paying them?
    ____________________________________
    I have been in these situations and what I have learned is that even where as here the charge is true, it will be dismissed as partisanship. What they need is an independent expert–maybe an academic to call the game on them. I know just such a guy–not personally but third party. He is highly credentialled mathematician who is the leading expert on correlating polling results wiht campaign messaging. As a matter of fact he was offered to Penn and Penn rejected him. I am not saying him for this gig–but somebody like him. That is who needs to be delivering that message.

  122. Biden, Obama helped keep ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ alive

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    Well blow me down with a freakin feather, CNN actually did a half decent attempt at non biased journalism, we need to file that under obscure things.

  123. They need to be FBIed asap

    http://www.wesh.com/news/17541353/detail.html

    Local elections officials are looking into potential election fraud and some of the information is pointing to a Democratic-leaning voter’s group.

    ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations For Reform Now, has been registering thousands of new voters for this year’s election, but in Seminole County, some voter applications are being withheld until it’s proven they’re legitimate.

    Election fraud is a felony, but first it has to be proven and someone has to be charged.

    So far, elections officials said they are just beginning to gather clues in this case.

    Seminole County’s elections supervisor is holding up dozens of voter registration applications because they appear to be fraudulent: wrong addresses, bad signatures and more.

    James Stanley of Winter Springs said he was contacted by the elections office, and told his date of birth and Social Security number were wrong on his form.

    He never filed this paperwork, and the signature is not his, which makes him worry that he won’t get a ballot on Election Day.

    “My biggest problem is when I show up to vote I want to make sure that I can cast my vote and the problem that I saw is that someone was questioning my validity to be able to cast that vote,” voter James Stanley said.

    Many of the applications with suspect information were turned-in by the activist group ACORN.

  124. Hi, Hillfriends: Just dropping in for a minute to post this Kass column from the Trib that you might enjoy. Sorry, must work: as many have noted, it wouldn’t do to be jobless in this Bush economy. Cheers!
    * * * * *
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-24-sep24,0,1898337.column

    chicagotribune.com
    McCain ad sends Daley into a gear-grinding frenzy
    John Kass

    September 24, 2008

    All it took was one TV ad by Republican Sen. John McCain daring to mention the Chicago Democratic Machine—the machine we’re told does not exist—to unleash Mayor Chucky.

    “If people start throwing dirt and mud—remember it comes back and hits you right in the face,” said Mayor Richard Daley, snarling, pointing his finger on Tuesday, positively chuckified.

    “I think, to put my brother Bill in there—they want to put me in there, fine, they put me in there all the time anyway,” he said.

    The McCain ad did not put him in there. But it put brother Billy in there as a lobbyist, and the mayor kept repeating “He’s not a lobbyist! He’s not a lobbyist! He’s never been a lobbyist,” even though Bill Daley was no mere lobbyist.

    Billy was a lobbyist’s lobbyist. And when he became U.S. Secretary of Commerce under Bill Clinton, Bill Daley traveled to Prague to teach American companies there how not to get themselves shaken down by local political bosses. I’m not kidding. Now he wants to be the next governor.

    Others mentioned in the ad were Obama’s real estate fairy, the convicted influence peddler Tony Rezko; outgoing state Senate President Emil Jones (D-ComEd); and Gov. Rod “The Unreformer” Blagojevich. Each was trotted out as a component of the Chicago Democratic Machine backing the machine’s own self-professed reformer, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Rezko/Daley).

    Obama wasn’t born of the machine, as the McCain ad states. He didn’t sprout fully formed from the mayoral forehead. But the former independent wised up to the Chicago Way, endorsed machine stooges and was warmed by Daley’s embrace. Daley’s own brilliant spokesman, David Axelrod, the Karl Rove of the Left, began to shape Obama as a reformer.

    Obama repaid them by keeping his mouth shut on corruption. His stupendous silence has allowed McCain to outflank him on the reform/”change” issue.

    Despite the great umbrage taken by Daley and my own paper’s editorial board, which complained the McCain commercial engaged in “guilt by association,” the ad was supremely effective and spot-on.

    Actually, it didn’t go far enough.

    McCain should have also mentioned the Illinois Republican bosses who dealt with Rezko in the state pension fund investment scandal, the same GOP heavyweights accused by witnesses of trying to use their White House influence to remove U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald.

    Yet now that Daley has invited McCain to make other ads featuring him, consider the possibilities:

    How about Obama, standing silently as the mayor’s white friends with Outfit connections, the Duffs, reaped $100 million in city affirmative action contracts even though the mayor knew his drinking buddies weren’t black or female. Then Obama endorses Daley in the name of reform.

    Or how about a little Daley and a little Obama, as happy kindergartners playing in a sandbox with trucks from the $40 million City Hall Hired Truck scandal? Or how about a President Obama dealing with a tricky foreign policy/Chicago corruption issue?

    This one involves the fugitive drug dealer and self-confessed Daley administration briber Marco Morales, still fighting extradition to the U.S. from the comfy warden’s office in his Mexican prison. On the day he fled Chicago—avoiding testifying to a federal grand jury about the bribes he paid at City Hall for contracts—Marco’s son began mysteriously receiving $40 million in Daley administration business. Again, I’m not kidding.

    “People love money,” Daley said Tuesday. “Some love sex. Some love drugs. Some love power. It’s human frailties. You don’t have to bring individuals down when you’re running for the highest office in the United States.”

    Daley was so upset about Billy that he talked about McCain’s involvement with the Keating 5, the scandal in which McCain was reprimanded by the Senate for his ties to the sleazy savings and loan king Charles Keating, along with four Democratic senators.

    The public dishonor changed something in McCain. He began railing against the corrupting influence of money in politics and began publicly embarrassing Democrats and his fellow Republicans, about their political pork-barrel deals like that bridge to nowhere.

    Perhaps, he’ll accept Daley’s challenge, and the mayor will continue to publicly deny that there is a Chicago machine, deny, deny, deny, even though the Daley underlings who helped build his machine and those giant patronage armies languish in the federal pen.

    “You want to get tough in politics, I can get tough in politics as anyone else,” Daley said. “When you start throwing mud, mud is going to be thrown at you and it’s going to be sticky.”

    It’s frightening to think of an angry Daley, doing a full Mayor Chucky, lips curled in rage, scooping up some mud balls because he doesn’t like a campaign commercial. But just wait. If his guy becomes president, he’ll be throwing his influence around the White House.

    And that might be even scarier.

    jskass@tribune.com

  125. what this election season has done is (finally) shown how absolutely complacent the American people have been when it comes to holding their elected officials accountable. It has also shown us the democratic party was ready, willing, and able to take advantage of that apathy with the selection and promotion of BHO.

    Make no mistake…WE LET THIS HAPPEN !!!

    The pandora’s box is open. We now see “women’s” organizations among a cadre of other so called progressive groups at last show their true colors. We see democratic leaders push us aside and take us for granted.

    Make no mistake these similar complaints are riddled throught the republican party.

    It is absolutely OUR fault. WE gave them the power, WE gave them the permission!

    The mess we are in today..did not happen yesterday. It’s core can be traced back decades!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acgV-u5TDi0&feature=related

  126. McCain Denies Reid’s Claim He Backs Bailout
    By Michael D. Shear and Robert Barnes
    NEW YORK — Sen. John McCain said this morning that he has not assured Democratic leaders of his support for the financial bailout package, disputing comments by Majority Leader Harry Reid that he had.

    Reid told reporters Tuesday that, in a private conversation Monday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson assured Reid that McCain would eventually back the bailout legislation, which Reid has set as a precondition for approving the bill to tone down the partisan atmosphere surrounding the controversial issue. “I’ve got some good news,” said Reid, adding that it “appears” McCain would back the package.

    Before a meeting of his economic brain-trust, McCain denied that report.

    Told of Reid’s comment that the GOP nominee would vote for the plan put forth by Paulson, McCain said, “I did not say that.”

    Senior McCain adviser Mark Salter told reporters later that “he hasn’t said that to Paulson or to Reid or to anybody else. He hasn’t said that to me.”

    Last night, McCain urged Congress to move quickly to improve and then pass bailout legislation, telling reporters after a plant tour in Freeland, Mich., “Further inaction is simply not an option.”

    “We must pass legislation to address this crisis,” McCain had said. “If we don’t, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes, and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees.”

    Nonetheless, McCain has expressed serious reservations about the $700 billion bailout, calling for greater oversight and more limits on executive pay. And he has steadfastly kept his options open, refusing to say whether he would vote against a plan that does not meet his conditions.

    In Michigan yesterday, McCain refused to say whether failure to address the principles of a bailout he had outlined would be enough for him to oppose the bill.

    “I can’t say that at this time because I think the emphasis should be on the adoption of these principles,” he said.

    Although he has said the legislation should be bipartisan, he said Democrats should not base their decisions on whether to support the costly legislation based on his commitment to it.

    “This is the greatest financial crisis since World War II,” McCain said yesterday. “So to somehow for the Democrats to say that their vote is going to be gauged on my vote frankly doesn’t do them a great deal of credit.”

    In New York this morning, McCain gathered a group of wealthy executives and investors for a private briefing on the economy.

    Among the advisers: Steve Schwarzman, head of the Blackstone Group equity firm; leveraged buyout pioneer Henry Kravis; eBay CEO Meg Whitman; former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney; television host and columnist Larry Kudlow; Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers and Merrill Lynch CEO John Thain.

    After the meeting, McCain made the following statement:

    “Most Americans feel very strongly that this isn’t their fault, but it’s Wall Street and Washington and the cozy insider relationships that have caused a great part of the problems. So any package that we come up with has got to have transparency, accountability, CEO responsibility and obviously be in the best interest of the people
    [of] this country who are going to pay $10,000 per household in order to take the necessary measures to restore our confidence. I thank my friends for coming this morning.”

    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/24/mccain_denies_reids_claim_he_b.html

  127. Ruh-oh, Read this, its explosive and extensive.

    Seems Obama’s friends were getting favours

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75998

    Rules ‘bent’ to provide Obama advisers loans ( Democrats )

    Fannie Mae CEOs Raines and Johnson (Obama’s advisors) got exemptions from standard requirements.

    Two Barack Obama advisers, Franklin Raines and James Johnson, received preferential home loans as industry favors, apparently in deference to their executive positions heading Fannie Mae.

    Raines and Johnson, as “friends of Angelo Mozilo,” the chief executive of Countrywide Financial Corp. …were funneled millions of dollars for personal home loans. Mozilo himself made exceptions from Countrywide policy to provide the two Fannie Mae CEO’s “sweetheart deals.”

    Countrywide was acquired by Bank of America in January in an emergency rescue …

    Johnson earned $21 million in just his last year at Fannie Mae, where he served as CEO from 1991 to 1998. Raines earned $90 million in his five years as Fannie Mae CEO, from 1999 to 2004.

    Raines and two other top Fannie Mae executives agreed to pay $24.7 million, including a $2 million fine, to settle a civil lawsuit filed in December 2006 that accused them of manipulating Fannie Mae earnings, allowing executives to pocket hundreds of millions in bonuses.

    Johnson was appointed to head Obama’s vice-presidential selection committee, but he was forced to step down when a controversy surfaced in June concerning alleged millions in questionable real estate loans he had received on favorable terms from Countrywide.

    A Washington Post profile published July 17 said Raines was then playing a role advising the Obama presidential campaign on mortgage and housing policy.

    Obama in his three complete years in the Senate is the second largest recipient of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae campaign contributions, behind only Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn

    Also, lets dig, come on guys, look at the money trail.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB121279970984353933.html

    Mr. Raines, was forced to retire from Fannie Mae in 2004 when its regulator found it had violated accounting rules in an effort to conceal fluctuations in profit and hadn’t maintained adequate risk controls.

    Also more

    online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121321030258665089.html
    A follow-up Wall Street Journal article that led to the resignation of Johnson from heading Obama’s vice presidential selection committee noted he received more than $5 million in loans from Countrywide that were arranged outside the company’s normal underwriting process.

    According to the article, Johnson received loans from Countrywide on six properties between 1998 and 2007, some at lower-than-average interest rates.

    The article noted that perhaps the most unusual of Johnson’s loans was one for more than $1.5 million for a real-estate project in Big Timber, Mont.

    Records showed Johnson’s “total income” at the time was $55,834 a month, while his “total obligations” were $97,708.97 a month, for a total debt ratio of 175 percent.

    According to the Journal, Countrywide handled this as a house construction loan and bent the rules by waiving additional down payments. Other rules were waived, including a requirement that Countrywide borrowers have no more than four currently financed properties at a time.

    Raines was also a repeat customer at Countrywide while he was Fannie Mae chief executive, receiving four home loans between 1999 and 2003, totaling nearly $4 million.

  128. Everybody-
    Please help out–we need volunteers to get out our flyers in the swing states (particularly) but I want to encourage EVERYONE to put out flyers your first errand of the day Saturday morning. Whether it’s your kid’s football practice, or heading to the dry cleaners–whether you put 25 flyers on cars or 2500–red state, blue state or swing state–your actions will make a difference. Flyers can be downloaded direct from our site http://www.RealDemocratsUsa.org under “Action” New one on Grove Parc is great.

    If you’re in the following states(or willing to travel there)–we NEED your help:
    PA–Email: PA@RealDemocratsUSA.org
    MI–Email: MI@RealDemocratsUSA.org
    VA–Email: VA@RealDemocratsUSA.org
    OH–Email: OH@RealDemocratsUSA.org
    CO–Email:CO@RealDemocratsUSA.org

    Otherwise please join a local group in your area by contacting your state coordinator and join in the fun!!
    Whether you join with us, or go it alone–please EVERYONE Saturday morning–put out those NObama flyers….

  129. OKay folks…are we ready to make some sacrifices here….small though it maybe..

    Apparently two of BO’s rich college pakistani freinds, now Asian Amercians are big time
    bundlers for BO and wroking in executive position at pepsico in westchester NY..

    will you give up pepsi products????

    I rarely have them but I will not be having any from now on!!!

    nobama! No pepsi!!!

    anybody joining me here!!!

  130. Big business on the eve of Y2K gave them our softward technology and outsourced all those computer call center related jobs.

    wbboei, minor quibble with the wording. India was always ahead in its software technology even before Y2K but found its market with Y2K (both my husband and I started in the early 80s and Science and Engineering has always been a priority with the Indians). Of course, being a resource-poor nation all that brain power had not found tangible expression until in the recent years.

  131. Just A Peek: Katie’s Interview With Sarah Palin
    Posted by Christine Lagorio

    This morning, Katie sat down with Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin in New York. In the exclusive interview, Katie asked her a wide range of questions on foreign policy and the current economic situation. We’ll bring you more of what she said tonight – but for now, we snagged a clip of the interview you can check out now.

    Katie Couric: If this doesn’t pass, do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?

    Sarah Palin: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it’s been proposed, has to pass or we’re gonna find ourselves in another Great Depression. But there has to be action taken, bipartisan effort – Congress not pointing fingers at this point at … one another, but finding the solution to this, taking action and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/24/couricandco/entry4474691.shtml

  132. Barack Hussien Obama…or was it Barry soetoro…..went partridge hunting in pakistan with his college friends and an elite pakistani elected member!!!

    Oh yeah….the sport of the elites …..

    And his mother was on food stamps???? Oh yeah???

  133. I am kind of depressed to see Obama getting this bump, but I knew last weeks Wall Street fiasco was good for him. I think MCcain needs to learn from Hillary and not wait too long before he really goes on the attack. Obama and his wife are fundamentally unpatriotic and that is something all Americans want in their President.

  134. I am not worried about the polls.

    The only poll i will be concerned about is on Nov 4th, when the voters make their choice.

    I live in a neighborhood that is 99% AA. I am not seeing a lot of signs for Obama. When Kerry was running there were signs all over the place. On my street there are only two signs for Obama.
    I would have thought the street would be loaded with O signs but it is not.

    I went up to McCains headquarters to get a sign they were all out. I don’t know whats going on.

    I live in Cuyahoga county in Ohio which is heavily Democract.

  135. this is obnoxious – beware:

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    Wednesday, September 24, 2008
    Huffington Post: If Obama Loses It Is All Bill Clinton’s Fault

    There are two themes of going around the Internet of what the reason will be, preemptively, if Barack Obama loses the election for presidency in November 2008 despite his lead in polls. Racism or the fall back of “It is all the Clinton’s fault.”

    In August of 2008, Slate magazine declared the only reason Barack Obama could lose the election was because of racism and because the majority of Americans are racists.

    If it makes you feel better, you can rationalize Obama’s missing 10-point lead on the basis of Clintonite sulkiness, his slowness in responding to attacks, or the concern that Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected. But let’s be honest: If you break the numbers down, the reason Obama isn’t ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He does so for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

    Today we see there is another reason why Barack Obama could lose and if he does, according to Huffington Post, it will all be Bill Clinton’s fault.

    Bill Clinton has come out in support of Barack Obama and lately has made the rounds with talk shows and interviews, in doing so, he is being accused of not showing “enough” support for Barack Obama and also being criticized for speaking well of John McCain and “lavishing praise” on Sarah Palin by saying she should not be underestimated.

    Popular opinion among Obama supporters is that Bill Clinton’s support for Obama is “tepid”, his heart isn’t in it and some think he is deliberately trying to sabotage Barack Obama is a stealthy manner.

    Yesterday Barbara Sowell pointed out Clinton’s appearance on The View, with video, as well as a New York Times’ Caucus piece stating Clinton was “waxed folksy” about Palin.

    Huffington Post writer Paul Slansky declared yesterday that if Barack Obama loses it will all be Bill Clinton’s fault.

    If Obama loses a close election — one in which even one state where you could have made a difference goes for McCain because you sat home and pouted — it will be on you. We will remember that you couldn’t be bothered to rise above your petty resentments for something as trivial as saving your country from the enemies of everything you profess to believe in. We forgave you for Monica, Bill, but we won’t forgive you for this. wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/09/huffington-post-if-obama-loses-it-is.html

  136. I have been looking for a week or more for effective flyers. There are a lot of them out there, but they are very amateurish in the sense that one glance at a bad pic of O is enough to turn people away or flip remarks which are obvious propaganda appealing to emotional predjudice, etc – people don’t want to look at things like that. I need something that appeals to people who are jaded from so much negative stuff being thrown at them.
    I have made some of my own, but I don’t think I’m good at it, either.

    If anyone knows of a flyer that challenges people to think, that doesn’t throw smears in their faces, etc, please post a place where I can find it.

  137. O’Reilly Updates Users After Hacking: “We’ll Get the Bad Guys”
    Following last weekend’s hacker attack on Bill O’Reilly’s personal Web site, BillOReilly.com, the site has updated members on the “minor hacking incident.”

    Some notes include “ALL CREDIT CARD INFORMATION FOR EVERY MEMBER IS SAFE” and “We are working with the proper authorities to track down the perpetrators.”

    The blog Gateway Pundit has obtained an email sent to the site’s premium members, further updating on the hunt for the hackers:

    The FBI and Secret Service are close to indicting some of the perpetrators and we will keep you posted when the arrests are made.

    All premium members receive the full backing of our legal team and if anyone is hassled in the least, please inform us immediately. In the latest case, no proprietary information was obtained by hackers and we have safeguards in place to protect everyone who does business with us.

    Rest assured that we are on this. Our defense of Sarah Palin has led some criminals to attempt to disrupt our enterprise. At this moment federal authorities and our attorneys are complying information against these people.

    Again, if any person is bothered in any way — please let us know. We stand behind our products but, most importantly, we stand behind you. We’ll get the bad guys. Count on it.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/oreilly_updates_users_after_hacking_well_get_the_bad_guys_95453.asp
    *****************************************************
    It’s about time the authorities take this kind of crime seriously.

  138. wbboei, minor quibble with the wording. India was always ahead in its software technology even before Y2K but found its market with Y2K (both my husband and I started in the early 80s and Science and Engineering has always been a priority with the Indians). Of course, being a resource-poor nation all that brain power had not found tangible expression until in the recent years.
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    thanks pm. I stand corrected.

  139. neetabug Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    I am not worried about the polls.

    The only poll i will be concerned about is on Nov 4th, when the voters make their choice.

    I live in a neighborhood that is 99% AA. I am not seeing a lot of signs for Obama. When Kerry was running there were signs all over the place. On my street there are only two signs for Obama.
    I would have thought the street would be loaded with O signs but it is not.
    ——————————————-
    I see more of them with young whites where I live. Ignorant, delusional and uninformed whites to put a finer point on it. Bambi bumper stickers. I have seen no McCain bumper stickers here which is a bit surprising. This is a red state with a big blue hole in it. I live in that blue hole. I have a Hillary bumper sticker so neither side knows what to make of me.

  140. I live in MD (Montgomery county). and many houses in my neighborhood have Obama yard sign and they are not AAs but latte drinkers.

  141. Huffington Post writer Paul Slansky declared yesterday that if Barack Obama loses it will all be Bill Clinton’s fault.
    ——————————————–
    Scumbuket Slansky. There is no point arguing. It is like trying to teach pigs to whistle. It is a waste of time and it annoys the pigs.

  142. neetabug Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    I am not worried about the polls.

    The only poll i will be concerned about is on Nov 4th, when the voters make their choice.

    I live in a neighborhood that is 99% AA. I am not seeing a lot of signs for Obama. When Kerry was running there were signs all over the place. On my street there are only two signs for Obama.
    I would have thought the street would be loaded with O signs but it is not.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I work in Philly, and there’s not as much Pro-O signs of life. There were more in Philly back in April when Hill was kickin’ his butt.

    I live in NJ, and I’m seeing more McCain yard signs than O. I liked this one with JM and Palin, with their pictures. She definitely provided a boost.

    Ummmm, as compared to say, Biden. Don’t get me wrong, Biden ain’t all that bad. But they have the more experienced guy at the bottom of the ticket.

  143. moononpluto Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
    Ruh-oh, Read this, its explosive and extensive.

    Seems Obama’s friends were getting favours
    ——————————————–
    Obamas the name
    Corruptions the game

  144. I live in NJ and have been seeing more McCain signs than Obama. I said last week that the democrats may be shocked by the results from NJ. NJ has been trending back to republican the past few years. Voters are tired of 8 years of Democratic governors. From the McGreevy diaster to Corzine raising tolls and planned increase totaling 800%. Gore won NJ by around 15% and Kerry by around 6% latest polls show that Obama leading by around 3% or 4% and I would not be suprised to see McCain win NJ.

  145. McCain needs to get back to washington and push for something on this bail out. Frankly, I find both campaigns economic message incoherent at tghis point. But they should be working not campaigning.

  146. Smart move not just for the legislation. If Obama and Biden both go back to washington, they should unleashed Palin have her everywhere campaigning while everyone else is back in DC.

  147. I got an email fund request from joe biden for the DSCC….

    He wants a filibuster proof senate for BO and himself when they are in the WH…
    Here’s what I think!!

    ——-

    Joe “darling”…..

    Here’s a news flash….the best way to gain for the dems to get more senators is to send
    John mccain to the WH and let her dem gov nominate from AZ for an additional senator..it still may not make it 60..

    This way you can keep a watch on BO in that committee of yours
    while we keep a watch you all in congress to see you are worth it in 2010.

    Now Shoo off!!!!
    Go shine your master’s shoes!!!
    —-

  148. Really, rjk? Weird. I just said this:

    mj Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
    McCain needs to get back to washington and push for something on this bail out. Frankly, I find both campaigns economic message incoherent at tghis point. But they should be working not campaigning.

  149. “Further inaction is simply not an option.”

    “We must pass legislation to address this crisis,” McCain had said. “If we don’t, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes, and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees.”
    Nonetheless, McCain has expressed serious reservations about the $700 billion bailout, calling for greater oversight and limits on executive pay.
    ———————————————
    I think that is about where Bill and Hillary are.

    The last time I checked that was not where Obama. He wanted to wait. Ditto with Durbin.

    This is not leadership. If the bailout cost for AIG rose from 20 billion to 85 billion in the course of four days, credit is at risk and a possible run on the dollar then time is of the essence.

    But with Obama it is always Barack first and the nation second. He is the head Bot. It was that way with NAFTA, then Iraq withdrawal and now the economy–play politics with our future.

  150. Brilliant McCain! My hero!!!!!

    At possible great sacrifice to his election, he has SUSPENDED his campaign to concentrate on the fiasco financial crisis of our nation; and has asked to postpone the Friday debate.

    ABSOLULTELY brilliant. I can not repeat this word enough.

    This is the patriot I want leading my country.

  151. With McCain doing this, he is showing leadership at its best! Obama would never have put country first as McCain is doing.

    Checkmate!

  152. Yes on Fox news now. Obama is in a hard spot now, his ego will not let him follow Mccain’s lead.
    ——————————————–
    Wunderbaar. John puts country first–like he always has. Barack cannot be bothered. He is studying up on foreign policy and finding out how much he does not know. I feel a Barack speech coming on–or maybe its just the stomach flu.

  153. Norma Desmond Says:
    # mp Says:
    Pickens orders wind turbines from GE – parennt of NBC/MSNBC.

    Carl Pope …head of sierra club – endorses pickens wind/solar energy initiatives.

    ===============

    I expect the bad guys have been trying to infiltrate the Sierra Club for quite a while now. But what EXACTLY is wrong with Pickens’ solar and wind projects? Somebody needs to do solar and wind; does it matter that much if Pickens does it first?

  154. Great move by McCain. He seizes the “fix the economy NOW” mantle away from Obama, who has done nothing but run around and give vague speeches, instead of rolling up his sleeves and doing any real work:

    ———-
    McCain Suspending Campaign, Asks for Debate Delay

    -By Michael D. Shear and Robert Barnes

    NEW YORK — Republican presidential nominee John McCain this afternoon said he would suspend his presidential campaign tomorrow to return to Washington and help reach agreement on a plan to solve the financial crisis on Wall Street, and said he wants to delay Friday night’s presidential debate.

    “It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal,” McCain said in a brief statement to reporters. “I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.”

    McCain said he is calling on President Bush “to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.”

    Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton released a statement reacting to the news.

    “At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal,” Burton said. “At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details.”

    McCain’s remarks follow:

    America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.

    Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns. This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward. I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.

    It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

    Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

    I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.

    We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.

  155. I first heard about McCain suspending his campaign and going back to DC on CNN with Norah McDonnell, she was very snarky saying it would be taken in one of two ways:
    1) as leadership
    2) as gaming the election

    Then, Fox had it on, but I did not hear the part where McCain suggested that nObama do the same. I am having a hard time even watching Fox News now as all they seem to spout off about are the REAL trends in the polls showing nObama a number of points ahead.As we veteran Hillary supporters can attest, the polls both exit and otherwise are often rigged in nObama’s favor.

    As JanH said above. I think McCain just bid a 7 No Trump, bowled a 300 game, and YELLED Checkmate!!!!! And as Bart Simpson used to say – eat my shorts- to nObama.

  156. turndownobama:

    no …it is fine if pickens does it….I wrote that thing before Palin was chosen…

    I understand Pickens is going to be at the clinton global initiative.

    Pickens was leaning towards BO….I still do not know where he stands now…..

  157. basil9 Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Berkley vox,

    BO response is there is no reason to delay the debate.

    Guess he’ll debate himself.
    ———————–

    as he usually does..

  158. Good grief. I just happily read several screens of Sept 6. Thought there had been another earthquake. How did that old file turn up?

    Excuse me while I go for caffeine.

    Saw soem good Idunn/Norma stuff I’d missed, though. 🙂

  159. BULLSH!!!t!!!!! RE:
    Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton released a statement reacting to the news.

    “At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal,” Burton said. “At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details.”
    —————————————
    Someone from the McCain campaign should either confirm or deny this assertion that nObama acted first. Anyone here believe a word of it???

  160. I think that even if Obama’s thugs called early this morning, McCain went a huge step further in the suspension of his campaign.

    I also think that if Obama’s thugs had really started this merry-go-round, then why wasn’t it on the news before? I thought every breath the horrid one takes is reported on?

  161. BO response is there is no reason to delay the debate.
    ——————————————–
    basil: come on–you are pulling my leg. Did he say that? Is the that stupid? I know that the senior senator from the Illionis Combine aka Nero said this feels like the Iraq War all over again.

    But Sir, isnt that the reason why you should be there to debate it and stop it if that is what you really believe. Problem is it aint good politics and god forbid you might have to take a position and stick to it. Tough times ahead for barry.

    Why cant john be nice to poor sweet innocent bambi and just let him eat his waffle and not disappoint big media who is looking for a big return off that debate. Even to you Barry shit happens.

  162. The chickens are coming home to roooooooost!

    Un-fricking-believable if nObama actually said no to delay of the debates…………..how can anyone still be for this flim flam narcissistic bamboozler and okie doke man?

  163. CountTheVotes, now how in the world is the campaign news headquarters for nObama [cnn, msnbc, nbc, HuffnPuff, etc] going to spin this.

    As Aaron Tippin sings….[nObama] Kiss. Kiss this.

  164. Anybody willing to bet that BO will turn up in the senate this evening…before McCain goes down there tomorrow morning….

  165. NO ACCOUNTABILITY OBAMA?

    CountTheVotes Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    this is obnoxious – beware:

    Subscribe to Wake up America by Email (Opens in new window)
    Check out the blog buzz at memeorandum.

    Wednesday, September 24, 2008
    Huffington Post: If Obama Loses It Is All Bill Clinton’s Fault
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I swear, if he drove into a pile of school kids, he say, “Where are the parents? How come these kids are in the streets”.

    If he broke into your house and your alarm helped apprehend him, he’d say, “So you don’t trust black people”

    And when he loses in November, we know there will be a long list of people to blame, but at the top will be:

    Bill Clinton
    Hillary Clinton
    Rac*st white voters clinging to guns and religion

    After all, this was the guy who blamed his staff members for “filling out candidate questionnaire forms incorrectly”.

    In Obama’s dreamy little world, Obama is never to fault.

  166. This is brilliant on McCain’s part. He may have just won the election because he is taking away Obama’s advantage on economy (by at least fighting for equal credit as he is doing now.) On the other hand, Obama is caught in between a rock and a hard place. Wow! McCain may have just won the election by messing with Obama’s head. On a more flippant note, the biggest question in Obama’s head is “to prepare or not to prepare” for the Friday debate.

  167. shorttermer – McCain’s strategy is definitely one of surprise and keeping the opponent off balance. I guess his war experience – his military family – very much figures into his instincts.

    What I love is that he keeps the MSM in the opposition camp – he treats them like BO and just like the Palin pick, the MSM will be blubbering and showing their true bias for BO when they don’t know what to make of it all…just like BO.

    I was reading NQ – and one of the comments said something like because BO’s head will be filled with so much debate material and his speechwriters won’t have time to do the research and come up with responses, BO won’t know how to pivot and deal with this – he’ll be uh, uh, uhhhing his way through this.

  168. if it is true then Hillary and others have shaken some sense into the delusional one. He was in favor of waiting until January on this and was content to wax on about terrible times ahead. He was dragged kicking and screaming to this conclusion and I will bet you Hillary is the one who did it–because that was her pitch yesterday-a consensus to act now.

    Thats if it is even true/

  169. lil ole grape Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    I have been looking for a week or more for effective flyers. There are a lot of them out there, but they are very amateurish in the sense that one glance at a bad pic of O is enough to turn people away or flip remarks which are obvious propaganda appealing to emotional predjudice, etc – people don’t want to look at things like that. I need something that appeals to people who are jaded from so much negative stuff being thrown at them.
    I have made some of my own, but I don’t think I’m good at it, either.

    If anyone knows of a flyer that challenges people to think, that doesn’t throw smears in their faces, etc, please post a place where I can find it
    ===================

    Grape,

    I haven’t checked the quality, but there are a lot of sites with flyers to download. I guess you’ve tried blog.pumapac.org and their Action Center. I saw some listed (didn’t check them) somewhere when I was surfing around hillaryclintonforum.net. They have high standrads for their forum, so maybe for their flyers too. Or it may have been sites hfc.n linked to.

  170. rjk1957 Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    I live in NJ and have been seeing more McCain signs than Obama. I said last week that the democrats may be shocked by the results from NJ. NJ has been trending back to republican the past few years. Voters are tired of 8 years of Democratic governors. From the McGreevy diaster to Corzine raising tolls and planned increase totaling 800%. Gore won NJ by around 15% and Kerry by around 6% latest polls show that Obama leading by around 3% or 4% and I would not be suprised to see McCain win NJ.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    rjk1957: I’m from Jersey too, Monmouth County, not far from Great Adventure. Yeah, McCain signs, only a couple of Obama yard signs. Which county you from?

  171. ShortTermer Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    —————-

    Obama’s camp wanted just a joint statement but gave them checkmate.

  172. so what are the bots saying to this move by McCain?

    ***
    John McCain wants to be president but he can’t multi-task? What a joke!
    ***
    We have a financial crisis at home and we’re fighting two wars abroad. If he wants to be president how can we trust him to handle the situations?
    John McCain thinks he can be president but he can’t multi-task? Give it up man.

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/24/1441286.aspx

    ***
    We have a financial crisis in this country, it IS the right thing to do.

  173. the bots are idiots. that’s why we need to keep BO out of Office – because the bots will be running this country.

  174. BO wanted it on Friday and on foriegn policy (it was his choice) because he believes that most of America won’t be watching on a Friday night, and this is his weakest subject. McCain asking to change it and for such a gallant reason makes me laugh. Its going to be hard for BO to say no. poor baby either isn’t going to get what he wants or look out of touch.

  175. I think if Hillary were in this situation, she and McCain would’ve agreed even several days ago to suspend their campaigns and get this hammered through…in fact, I bet she would’ve called him first to do it and they would’ve civilly announced it together.

  176. Well if Obama thinks a debate is more important than saving the economy, let him have his kodak moment. He can talk back and forth to the monitor.

    As far as multitasking goes, isn’t it Obama who has said he has a terrible time with that?

  177. I expect the bad guys have been trying to infiltrate the Sierra Club for quite a while now. But what EXACTLY is wrong with Pickens’ solar and wind projects? Somebody needs to do solar and wind; does it matter that much if Pickens does it first?
    *****************************************************
    I don’t have a problem with Pickens solar and wind projects. What I do have a problem with is him trying to put up a monopoly and keep out the small and midde size companies from doing business with the utilities…in CA.

    Vote NO on Proposition 7

    http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/argu-rebut/argu-rebutt7.htm

  178. State party to consider bid to oust Lieberman
    Associated Press – September 24, 2008 3:43 PM ET

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) – Connecticut Democrats are considering trying to force Joe Lieberman out of the party.

    The veteran senator calls himself an “independent Democrat.” He was re-elected as an independent two years ago after losing the Democratic primary. Six years earlier, he nearly became vice president as Al Gore’s running mate.

    But he spoke at the Republican convention, and he supports John McCain.

    The state Democratic party has scheduled a debate tonight on a resolution that would censure Lieberman and ask him to resign from the Democratic Party.

    One supporter of the resolution says Lieberman’s GOP convention speech, in which he praised McCain and criticized Barack Obama, convinced her that state Democrats need to take a stand.

    But the head of the state Democratic party says there are just a few people who want to pass such a resolution now. She says the rest want to focus on the upcoming election.

    http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?S=9067550
    *****************************************************
    What a bunch of idiots….Lieberman won as an independent, all he promise to the votes was that he would caucus with the Democrats. I don’t know why they are mad…the Democrats did fund his campaign, it was the republicans.

  179. I hope the mccain campaign will rebut burtons assertion. But if they do not then my posting above is intended to address it.

    If it turns out that bambi acted first you can be sure it was not his idea. The only one smart enough to have figured it out is Hillary (or Bill) in which case it is no reflection on Bambi. His prior statements prove he wanted to wait.

    At this point the jury is still out/ unless you have an update.

  180. the bots are idiots. that’s why we need to keep BO out of Office – because the bots will be running this country.
    ———————————————
    more like hitlerjugen from what I have seen/

  181. I don’t have a problem with Pickens solar and wind projects. What I do have a problem with is him trying to put up a monopoly and keep out the small and midde size companies from doing business with the utilities…in CA.
    ———————————————–
    Pickens is one of the early corporate raiders. Greenmail was his thing. As I recall he was a buy and liquidate kind of guy.

  182. wbboei, Obama’s camp wanted to put out a joint statement and that’s it. But McCain dropped this bombshell on them and called checkmate. As Sabato said just now, he rolled the dice with Palin and he won and he is rolling the dice again and I think he will win. At the very least, McCain is trying to own the economy as a issue and get half credit at least with the bipartisan solution and Obama seems lacking in leadership whatever he does now.

  183. wbboei, Obama’s camp wanted to put out a joint statement and that’s it. But McCain dropped this bombshell on them and called checkmate.
    ———————————————-
    pm: thankyou thankyou thankyou. Halleluha/

  184. Also, Obama’s camp will not try to claim credit on this fully because it may come back to haunt them if the debate people and Mississippi are not happy with the disruption.

  185. wbboei, I am a political novice but I have been watching McCain’s moves starting with his ads and they are just brilliant (that even a political neophyte like me can recognize it..) I am just giggling away sitting here.

  186. Oblahblah will issue a statement within the hour.

    His campaign says he can do both (debate and fix the economy)

    ROTF.

  187. I am laughing, is it offensive the “cracker” vote…?

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Bill_Clinton_Will_respect_Jewish_holidays_then_hustle_up__cracker_vote_in_Florida.html?showall

    Bill Clinton: Will respect Jewish holidays, then ‘hustle up … cracker vote’ in Florida

    In an interview with CNN’s Larry King airing tonight, Bill Clinton offered a slightly unusual reason for postponing his campaigning for Obama: The Jewish high holidays of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, which he’s not known to observe.

    “When [the Clinton Global Initiative] is over, and after the Jewish holidays, which follow close on it, I intend to go to Florida, to Ohio, to northeast Pennsylvania, and to Nevada at a minimum,” he said. “I may do events in Arkansas depending on what the Democratic Party does down there. And I’ve agreed to do some fundraising for them in California and New York.”

    “Are you kind of feeling Jewish that you’re waiting until after the Jewish holidays?” King asked, according to a CNN transcript.

    “No. But I think it would be — if we’re trying to win in Florida, it may be that,” Clinton began, before discussing his real Florida target: “You know, they think that because of who I am and where my politic[al] base has traditionally been, they may want me to go sort of hustle up what Lawton Chiles used to call the ‘cracker vote’ there.”

    “But Senator Obama also has a big stake in doing well in the Jewish community in Florida, where Hillary did very well and where I did very well. And I just think respecting the holidays is a good thing to do,” he said.

  188. Can you just see the steam coming out of Obama’s ears just about now? I bet he’s having a little temper tantrum and has to take a “time out.”

  189. The only thing that mccain needs to do is make sure it is reported that way. NBC, CNN and MSNBC will distort it so it is important to keep a close eye on what they say. They have a known aversion to the truth.

  190. Doctors Demand Release Of McCain Medical Records

    adspotlight.nationaljournal.com/2008/09/doctors_demand.php

    Team Obama is pathetic and desperate. McCain is not like others Obama has run across and intimidated.

    He is his own man.

  191. Well, McCain made the video already and we are still waiting for Obama.. so I don ‘t know how they can spin it otherwise (but I’m sure they will find a way).

  192. from political radar

    Obama supporter and chief debate negotiator Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., told MSNBC that “we can handle both,” when asked about his reaction to McCain’s call to postpone the first debate because of the administration’s bailout plan.

    He believes they are making good progress on Capitol Hill on the bailout and his initial reaction is that the work on the Hill should not preclude the debate from taking place.

    An Obama campaign official told ABC News the Democratic presidential candidate called McCain this morning to suggest a joint statement of principles.

    McCain called back this afternoon and suggested returning to Washington.

    Obama is willing to return to Washington “if it would be helpful.” But reiterated Obama intends to debate on Friday.

  193. What a grand time for a well deserved vacation and another trip to Hawaii. Queen kamahamaha is calling: Bambi come home, and eat your waffle.

  194. # basil9 Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    His campaign says he can do both (debate and fix the economy)

    ——————-
    Is that why he was holed up in FL preparing for the debate? At the very least this throws a wrench in his schedule: to prepare or not to prepare . Sorry! I can’t say that enough. 🙂

  195. What do y’all think about this?

    from jonathan martin.

    McCain taking ads down

    Aiming to prove how serious he is about addressing the financial crisis, John McCain has instructed his staff to take all his campaign commercials off the air, a spokesman tells Politico.

    “As John McCain said, now is the time to put partisanship aside and come together to do the work that the American people expect,” said Tucker Bounds.

    McCain aides are now in the process of contacting TV station across the country to get their ads taken down, according to Bounds.

    Asked how long they would go dark, Bounds only said: “We’re taking our guidance from Sen. McCain on that.”

  196. but I’m sure they will find a way).
    ——————————————–
    Anyone can spin it. The question is will it be believed. If Bambis initial reaction was a joint press release then it appears he was receptive to the idea and decided the debate must go on only after his request was rebuffed. I really do hope McCain sticks to his guns, lets bambi argue his case to an empty chair and sends a video rebuttal to FOX when the commitee recesses/

  197. basil9 Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    What do y’all think about this?

    from jonathan martin.

    McCain taking ads down
    ——————

    They should not push it too far..But McCain in his statement talked about fixing the bailout plan before Monday, so they may not expect to stop this for long.

  198. One of the things I haven’t like is those MSM in the tank for Obama editing Sarah Palin’s comments out of context. McCain camp need to put a stop on this by releasing a video puting out this insane tactic.

    I’m glad their are videos people can see and read her complete transcript.

  199. Bambi is probably afraid to go back to washington. They don’t have t.v. monitors 24/7 there for him to um…um…um…give his message.

  200. Something has got to happen to help McCain. I can’t even stand to watch FOX. Hannity and Greta are the only ones that seem to not provide an Obama commercial. Even O’Reilly seems to be in the tank for Obama.

  201. pm317,
    That’s my gut reaction, too. Isn’t taking down tv ads a bit much?

    Btw, I just read the current bailout proposal would cost everyone 10G!!!!!!!

    F***ing #$#!!#!
    That’s also what BO’s African Aid package will cost us.
    So 20 G to bailout the fat cats and help people in other countries.

    What about USSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

    “When you start talking about $10,000 per household or per family to go toward bailing out Wall Street, they have legitimate questions about it,” DuHaime said. “People understand that that is a big thing and it affects them, and they do legitimately have questions about, is this really going to go to bail out companies or leaders of companies who now are relying on taxpayer dollars to bail them out, and are going to get these huge compensation packages after they come to the taxpayers for it.”

  202. There is a difference between suspending a campaign and cancelling a debate–needless to say. On the other hand a three day suspension would be more than sufficient to make the point. Bambi has never understood that action speaks louder than words. He has no stomach for frontline combat. Schmoooozer not a fighter.

  203. Harry Reid’s statement re: McCain’s suspension of the campaign and postponement of the debate was very offensive to me – and those dumbasses want a filibuster proof congress. I hope each of us does everything possible to keep that from happening. Reid and Pelosi IMHO have opted out of being the party that “decides” this wall street bailout – saying it would require Republican partisanship as well. Why not FU this, as they have FU’d everything else including Hillary – and us?

    What did a recent poster say?
    The antonym for progress is CONGRESS?

    I think Joe Liebermann and Lindsay Graham are my two new boyfriends.

  204. peppermint,
    I dunno WTH O’Reilly’s supporting BOI especially after his website was hacked over the weekend and the
    details of 200 subscribers spread over the web.
    It’s obviously a BO group furious at Bill-o’s fair coverage of palin.

  205. Even O’Reilly seems to be in the tank for Obama.
    ———————————————
    Phony as a three dollar bill–both of them.

  206. O’Reilly flips back and forth. He went after Newsweek yesterday for their attacks on Sarah Palin and use of Daily Cos reporters.

  207. hehehehehe…….

    I think JM is really f**ing with BO’s head aND ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE of it.

    BO must be reeling – he doesn’t handle chaos well – doesn’t know how to improvise -can’t make a move without his teleprompter. Teleprompter addiction, hehehehehe.

    I read somewhere today that the repubs won’t go along with any bailout package unless JM is on board.
    Maybe that’s why he’s going to DC?

  208. Obama did call JM at 8:30 this morning but didn’t reach him!!!!!!

    They never spoke.

    Breaking now.
    ——————————————–
    that can only mean one thing: burton is a liar. See shortermer at 3:24 above. In politics there is a difference between spinning and lying–and Burton knows it.

  209. Good on McCain! Brilliant move, as far as I’m concerned! Country first!

    Also, I have said for ages that Obambi has no real work ethic, which is one of my problems with him. He is a lazy ass at anything other than self-promotion. This shows that up nicely.

  210. OK, the bastard is trying to take credit for all this by saying he originated the idea blurring the line between a joint statement he wanted and what McCain did.

  211. blogging bo’s press conference:
    i mentioned at the rally that the era of greed has led us into a near depression
    we have to prevent a, financial system from collapse
    the clock is ticking
    we have to act swiftly and work together and we have to get it right
    in this spirit i called JM this morning – i initiated the call after determining we have similar opinions about the bailout and thinking a joint statement would be useful
    he called me back at 2:30 and i asked again for a joint statement.
    there are times for politics and times to rise above politics
    That’s the end of his statement and now opening it to questiions.
    i called him this morning with the intent of issuing a joint statemtn
    he called me back at 2:30 and said we should meet in DCi wck to the hotel he had already gone on tv. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! BO got punked!!!!!!! HE’S STILL ANSWERING questions.
    Admits JM mentioned he thought they should suspend the debates

  212. Obama is doing a press conference trying to act all presidential but it’s an act and most voters know this.

    He is acting like he order McCain back to D.C….the question is do you want another GWB but on the left and one who is just as stubburn as George W. Bush too?

    Go McCain…show the American people who is an worker and who is a slick talking fake.

    The more the Democrats complain the more it shows they were surprised by McCain move.

  213. Seems Big Dawg has HAD ENOUGH of the OhPrecious incense burners whining that he is not out there attacking McCain, and wiping Bambi’s nose and changing his diaper for him:


    Clinton said he and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, gave vigorous endorsements to Obama at the national convention last month and that Hillary Clinton has traveled extensively on Obama’s behalf. That includes a tour of Michigan on Saturday.

    “I think you can argue that she has done more than all other runner-ups have in the Democratic Party in 40 years,” the former president said. “We have been quite clear on this. We’re not party-wreckers, and we believe that the country needs to take a different course.”

    “I just don’t believe that getting up here and hyperventilating about Gov. Palin, or Sen. McCain for that matter, is a productive use of a former president’s time and is not a vote-getter,” he said, adding that he admires McCain even though he disagrees with several of his positions.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080924/ap_on_el_pr/bill_clinton_politics;_ylt=Ak._eK2jgxjv86.U3Afrhfph24cA

    GO, BIG DAWG! Let the whiny ass baby fight his own damn battles and do his own damn smears.

  214. Lieberman saying Jhe admires JM’s move and considers it a great display of leadership.

    Reid said he wouldn’t pass any bill withut repub support and said he needs JM to do that.

    (cut back to pressconference)
    Bo says if they (congress) needs me, I’ll be there.
    It’s not necessary to think we can only do one thing and suspend everything else.

    Lieberman says that’s an awful statement. “If you need me, call me.:

    oh i am rotflmfao!

  215. Well, this proves McCain is the maverick he says he is, he’s prepared to turn the screws on all of them to get stuff done.

  216. pm,

    “He is also saying they should be able to do more than one thing at the same time.. Really?

    that’s EXACTLY what he said and Lieberman was apopletic!!!!!

  217. nObama is on now; and ooh how slick he is. I called first, we essentially agree on the priority; if they need me they can call me; but my priority is go to forward with my pretty face on tv Friday just as planned – and oh I am the great multi-tasker.

  218. Unfortunately, one of these guys will be President in Jan and inherit this mess, so I think its a good idea that both of them get their asses fully involved and knock some heads together.

    McCain sees that, Obama’s like, let my minions do it, its “above my pay grade”

  219. Do more than one thing at one time? What could be more important than fixing the economy? Does he really want to say that he won’t give his full attention to this issue?

  220. shorttemer,

    Bo called at 8:30 but JM wasn’t available to take the call so they never spoke until 2:30.

    D@mn!!!!!!! I have an html class tonight and I sure feel like skipping it.

    This is just too funny.

  221. So who will drag the kicking and screaming Obama to DC now?

    I have a debate to prepare, I have a debate to prepare.. I can do the debate and I will do the bailout too if they need me…

  222. debbie Says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
    the more I think about it I believe Hillary knew exactly what she was saying when she said NO way, NO how….(even though she added McCain to the end of it)

    I think it was her way of telling the NObama gang she heard them.
    *************************************************
    Right. She heard us. And maybe she thinks that we’re wrong? Or does she have to do what she’s doing to maintain credibility with the Democratic Party? I hate the spot that she’s in, and I’m not crazy about the spot that I’m in. There are over 500 responses to my column for the Iowa City Press-Citizen. Lots of intolerance, hate speech from Obama bots, but some supporters. Thank you, all of you who took the time to respond to the Obama bots!

  223. I must go get some exercise too. Be back in an hour, maybe McCain won’t fix all the nation’s problems in that short amount of time – but who knows – if anyone can, he can!!!!

    BOOO for BO.

  224. Jan,

    Those were his words.
    I beleive he must be quoting from the political radar article posted upthread.

    4:23
    Obama supporter and chief debate negotiator Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., told MSNBC that “we can handle both,” when asked about his reaction to McCain’s call to postpone the first debate because of the administration’s bailout plan.

  225. I have a debate to prepare, I have a debate to prepare.. I have to do the debate and I will do the bailout too if they need me because I am a multi-tasker..

  226. LOL…I wonder how much “preparation time” McCain needs for the debate. Obama is going to class while McCain is being presidential.

  227. Fox is running his first response when he said…we can multitask and do two things at once.

    Obama is a punk with no LEADERSHIP…he might be able to fake kids but those SENOIR CITIZENS with PENSIONS and LIFE SAVINGS…she his punk ass as he truly is.

    Another “above my paygrade” moment.

  228. My September column is why I’m a PUMA and “Why I’ve Left the Democrats”:

    http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080909/OPINION01/809090324/1019/OPINION01

    The Obama bots in Iowa City have had a field day with it, and other than removing a comment that captured a cartoon young drunk vomiting on a photo of my head, the Iowa City Press-Citizen has let a lot of Leftist hate speech stand. The editors only see racism, and sometimes they don’t even see that.

    I reported the insane Right-Wing person who talked about “HomoMasters” and Obama as a “Black Puppet.” Don’t know if they’ve eliminated that comment or not, but they should.

  229. The way I hope it will be looked at will be, Obamanero wants to debate and Fiddle while America burns.

    McCain says just delay the debate, whats your problem Obama, is the economy not enough to warrant full attention from Obama.

    Quite clever here, McCain is going against Bush, kicking Obama in the balls who says he’s another Bush while at the same time kicking Obama’s ass in looking like a wuss who doesnt want to deal with the economy and thats the be all here, Obama does not want to touch the economy period.

  230. Wouldn’t it be brilliant if bambi went ahead and McCain were allowed to throw in the barracuda in his stead. Saw clips of Palins gubanatorial debates and she looks like she could handle him no problem.

  231. ON the Bridge, I didn’t record the cite, but AS SOON AS CONGRESS SAID ALASKA COULD USE THE MONEY ALREADY RECIEVED — then Palin killed the bridge and used the money for, you know, other things.

    Iirc of $223 million, $40 million had been spent on an access road. So that left Alaska with $180 million to spend on things they really wanted.

    Win/win for Alaska.

    Btw here’a a politico thread slanting way against Palin and leaving out the votes Biden and Obama made for the project, even when they were requested to let the money go for a Katrina bridge instead.

    h t t p : / / http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13819.html

    Chronology of Bridge.

    [[ This leaves out the fact that Biden and Obama voted for it twice — once when Congress tried to take the money away to repair a bridge needed for Katrina relief. — tdo ]]

    ————————————————–

    FOR MORE INFO:
    h t t p : / / http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&pwst=1&q=Biden,+Obama+helped+keep+%E2%80%98Bridge+to+Nowhere%E2%80%99+alive&start=0&sa=N

    I can’t find a good place to comment on these many places that are quoting or carrying the story, as they all look like small audiences or choirs. CNN is the only mass audience site, and I can’t find a comment string there.

  232. OK will someone explain to me why voters think that the Dems can handle the economy better, when they spend all their time criticizing the only two term president from their party they have successfully elected.

    I have to wonder why voters think that way.

    Also amazing how they say that O will need a 9% poll lead to win, and one of their polls automatically comes up with 9%.

    They also don’t look at the electorial collage in any of their analysis. You can win the popular vote, but not the election. Seems we have been taught that at least twice.

    Oh well, at least I got all that out of my system.

    Also, I spent time in O part of town. Very few signs.

    One has to wonder, as in this part of town you are not restricted on putting up signs.

    I continue to wonder what this lack of signs means.

  233. Reid cannot tell McCain to stay away, McCain is a senior sitting Senator who holds sway with an enormous amount of senators, thats more than Reid and Pelosi.

    Reid is just worried McCain will actually make them do something.

  234. jan, moon, debbie,

    Reid is FOS!!!!

    yesterday he said that unless McCain signs on and leads the repubs the bill probably won’t pass and they needed JM.

    Now he says it’s not necessary for him to show up!

    BS!!!!!!!!!

  235. Its stunning

    Obama made a stunning gaffe in his press conference this afternoon, responding to McCain suspending his campaign and the economic crisis. Obama said, “If they [Congress] need me, call me.” Wow. There could be no further contrast in leadership between these two men. McCain rolls up his sleaves and says “let’s get something done.” And Obama says “call me if you need me.” , whatever, just stunning.

    I finally realised its because the only thing Obama knows how to do is campaign, he has no negotiating skills and would be shown up magnificantly by everyone else in the room.

  236. moononpluto
    He was also asked for a reaction to Mccain’s statement and he said staff is still going over it. In other words I have to wait to be told what my reaction is….

  237. the other thing I heard was BHO acknowledge a republican senator?/rep called him first and suggested the joint statement…it was after that that he called McCain

    but the way they tell it…this whole thing was BHO’s idea

  238. Well McCains response should be Reid saying “we don’t know what to do” and then McCain saying, well then move over and i’ll take charge

  239. If both candidates weren’t influential senators it might not be so crucial for them to attend the hearings but they are.

    this nonsense about who called who first is more middle school the-dog-ate-my-homework bs.

    A Jm spokesperson said that no message was left and there was no indication of what the topic of discussion was. Bo is lying again.

  240. moononpluto Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
    Its stunning

    Obama made a stunning gaffe in his press conference this afternoon, responding to McCain suspending his campaign and the economic crisis. Obama said, “If they [Congress] need me, call me.” Wow. There could be no further contrast in leadership between these two men. McCain rolls up his sleaves and says “let’s get something done.” And Obama says “call me if you need me.” , whatever, just stunning.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Well, McCain can suspend his campaign for x number of days. But the 527’s and RNC won’t rest.

    That quote will see lots of air time.

    “Dearly Beloved Senator Obama, we most humbly ask that you return to see the people’s business, if it wouldn’t be too much of a bother.”

    All Hail Obama.

  241. The other thing is that McCain and Obama are both part of the “congress” and should be there sorting it out.

    I think Obama forgets he is the junior senator from Illinois, McCain has’nt forgotten he’s the Senator from Arizona and besides, McCain should say, let the VP’s do their debate first on Fri while myself and Obama go to Washington.

  242. This really gives you an insight to what sort of Pres he would be. Everythings beneath him, “why are you asking me that” “above my pay grade”, “ask her” “im eating my waffles” we’d be screwed because the man cannot take a decision people do it for him.

  243. [Palin’s] support of a state ballot question that would deny benefits to homosexual couples
    http://www.newsmax.com/politics/palin_gay_support/2008/09/18/132125.html
    =====================

    Is that the one she ended up vetoing, saying it was unconstitutional? About gay partners of state employees getting spousal benefits. Iirc she said she didn’t want to pay the benefits, but not enough gays would file for it so it would cost more to defend the bill than to pay the benefits to the few gays who did.

    Now there’s a good Goldwater conservative attitude! (And the few gays who qualify, can wink at her all the way to the bank.)

    Around the same time there was a referendum on the same question and 47% took the pro-gay side. She had 80-90% approval in Alaska, so a good chunk of those pro-gays must approve her.

  244. Obama is caught off guard by all this and they are reacting.. and making mistakes (like call me if you need me) So that is good. But this is a risky thing to do on McCain’s part.

  245. moon and debbie, he is always “phoning it in”. His VP pick. His response to hurricanes. His response to the PA memorial for flight 93 (okay, that one was an email.).

    Obama doesn’t want to get his hands dirty to show up, to rub shoulders with real life. He wants to phone it in.

    Obama is a “My Pet Goat” kinda guy.

  246. # texan4hillary Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    so what does mccain plan to do in dc? e says we need a better one-ok what does he propose.
    —————————-

    He will perhaps talk to all kinds of people on all sides (Buffet for instance who is supporting Obama) and try to work out a bi-partisan solution. The advantage to McCain in this is that he is proactive in an area everyone thought he was vulnerable and it also prevents Democrats from owning the solution and trying to claim credit.

  247. Obama nailed, they are doing what Obama wanted to do about the troop withdrawl, the next President should be involved, smart ole repubs.

    Congressional Republicans line up behind McCain call

    While congressional Democrats, including Harry Reid, urge McCain to not return to Washington, the GOP nominee’s colleagues line up behind the move.

    In a coordinated move, the Republican congressional leadership has issued statements on McCain’s decision.

    “I strongly support Sen. McCain’s proposal for a bipartisan leadership meeting of both Houses of Congress, including Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner. “Given that it is only a few months before a new president takes the oath of office, it is vital that the next president play an active role in crafting this critical plan.”

  248. Hi, all: Wow! Talk about a Big Mac attack! :lol
    Here’s the email from the campaign – contains some strong language that was not in the statement above. Excuse, me, please, but may we have the brilliant and gutsy guy for our president? Country first.

    * * * * *
    John McCain’s Remarks on the Economic Crisis
    New York, NY
    Wednesday, September 24, 2008

    America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.

    Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns. This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward. I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.

    It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

    Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

    I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.

    We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.

    I am confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people. All we must do to achieve this is temporarily set politics aside, and I am committed to doing so.

    Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.

  249. Harry Reid so far:

    Uhhhh….we dunno what to do.

    Obama, come to DC!

    It will be up to McCain whether the Dems back this bailout – if he votes for it, we will.

    McCain – stay away!

    That’s good old “GIVE ‘EM JELLO” Harry.

  250. Obama is really upset because he crammed for the test, and knows he will have forgotten all those answers by next week.

  251. Obama is confused. He said this is exactly the time that the american people need to hear from uh.. uh who in approximately 40 days will be responsible for this mess. He must think if he wins he moves into the WH on November 5th.

  252. HillaryforTexas Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    Obama is really upset because he crammed for the test, and knows he will have forgotten all those answers by next week.

    * * * *
    LOL!!!!! It’s so funny cuz it’s true….

  253. I am hoping the first one McCain grabs for discussion when he gets back to DC is OUR HILLARY.

    It would please me to no end if a workable compromise had McCain/Clinton written all over it.

    LMAO!

  254. Idunn Says: Give me ring if ya need me, Harry. In the meantime, I have a debate with myself to cram for.

    =================

    At the last minute McCain should send Sarah to debate Obama. That’s her job, to fill in for the President.

  255. Obama says “this is the time that Americans need to hear from” the candidates, so he will keep campaigning.

    NO, you BRAYING ASS, this is not the time we need to “hear from” a goddamned soul. We have HEARD you for 19 months. This is the time when we need our elected officials to get off their asses and DO some DEEDS.

    Once again Obama proves that reality for him exists in words, not deeds. He is, I think, genuinely puzzled why so many idiots in this country value accomplishments. He finds that whole attitude very foreign and strange.

  256. henry Says: Wouldn’t it be brilliant if bambi went ahead and McCain were allowed to throw in the barracuda in his stead. Saw clips of Palins gubanatorial debates and she looks like she could handle him no problem.
    ============

    Allowed? If on debate night the only person who shows up at the studio is Barracuda, saying sweetly that the POTUS is unavailable so she, as VP, is filling in for him…. What is the studio going to do? Cancel the debate? Send out an emergency call for Biden?

  257. As usual, 0bama phones it in.

    That is pretty weak bambi, but an improvement over yesterday’s
    comment that you would not even vote on the measure.
    Perhaps tomorrow we will see you in a helicopter ride hovering over Wall Street.

    bambi takes a ride.

  258. wbboei Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Obama did call JM at 8:30 this morning but didn’t reach him!!!!!!

    They never spoke.

    Breaking now.
    *******
    Hilarious. They never even spoke – way to go with leading the charge. He probably REALLY called to say: Hey John, what color of tie are you wearing to the debate?

  259. Perhaps tomorrow we will see you in a helicopter ride hovering over Wall Street.

    LMAO! Yeppers, and he can say of Paulson “He’s doing a heckuva job!”

  260. HillaryforTexas Says: Obama is really upset because he crammed for the test, and knows he will have forgotten all those answers by next week
    ================

    LOL! Or by then something NEW may happen! I’d have to memorize all new stuff!

  261. Preincess O yesterday…

    23 Sept: CBS: Obama May Not Return to D.C. for Bailout Vote
    Although Barack Obama argues that the financial meltdown is an “emergency situation”, he said today that he may remain on the campaign trail, rather than returning to the Capitol, to vote on the $700 billion plan.
    “Look if we get a consensus and everybody is popping champagne – then I will probably be going back to campaign with folks who are having a tough time in places like Ohio, and Michigan and Pennsylvania,” Obama said adding, “If this ends up being a close vote or a vote where the outcome is an open question then obviously this is a top priority.”..

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/23/politics/fromtheroad/entry4472357.shtml

  262. Anyone remember that one debate where Obama said you had to hand him one piece of paper at at time?
    ———-

    Neetabug: yeah, wasn’t that the time where he admitted he’s incredibly disorganized, and his office is always a mess? Sounds like George W.

  263. FYI – from someone at bitterpoliticz:

    Hugh Hewitt talk radio talking about McCain suspending and *61 not.

    He was just emailed by the McCain and OBAMA IS LYING THAT HE CALLED THE MCCAIN CAMP AT ALL.

  264. Obama is never there when you want him.

    Lead. Follow. Or get out of the way.

    The survival of the country is not a delegable isssue.

    The debate is faculty lounge.

    McCain needs to be there to prevent bush/cheney from rolling over everybody.

    Reid has no balls. Need republican leadership not to be steamrolled by the admin/

    Obama is not smart enought to know he has problems. He has no soloutions.

    McCain understands that he needs to be where the action is for anything to happen or not.

    Obama is not a leader–by any stretch of the imagination.

    Bush is playing cya and mccain will stop him

    GODDAMN IT THIS IS SERIOUS, AND OBAMA IS CLUELESS. WAKE UP AMERICA–WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS WHAT YOU GET.

  265. Obama: “Look if we get a consensus and everybody is popping champagne – then I will probably be going back to campaign with folks who are having a tough time in places like Ohio, and Michigan and Pennsylvania,” Obama said adding, “If this ends up being a close vote or a vote where the outcome is an open question then obviously this is a top priority.”

    Translation: Let everyone else do the hard work of hammering out a compromise, twisting arms, making promises across the aisles, building coalitions. Once they have done all the work, I may show up to vote and grab some credit.

  266. BO is such a twit. The country is in an economic meltdown, and he wants to have a foreign policy debate. What is wrong with this picture? When there is a crisis, you have to focus on that. It is known, as setting priorities and triaging. What a dope.

  267. birdgal – triaging is the right analogy.

    So when the patient shows up in the ER in cardiac arrest, I should start collecting stool samples and clipping his toenails and inquiring about his dental health. Because hey, I can MULTI-TASK!

  268. HillaryforTexas Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
    birdgal – triaging is the right analogy
    ——————————————————————————————–

    I am also a nurse. 🙂

  269. Look if we get a consensus and everybody is popping champagne – then I will probably be going back to campaign with folks who are having a tough time in places like Ohio, and Michigan and Pennsylvania,” Obama said adding, “If this ends up being a close vote or a vote where the outcome is an open question then obviously this is a top priority.”..
    _________________________________________________________________________________________

    This guy is always coming off with a flip answer, and he thinks it is cute

    PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS MAN IN THE WH

  270. (The Politico) Does Harry Reid want it both ways when it comes to John McCain showing up for Senate votes?

    This afternoon, Reid dismissed McCain’s sudden move to parachute in on Washington and help solve the economic crisis.

    Let’s compare today’s statement …

    “It would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op.”

    … With Reid’s statement from July, when Obama showed up for a vote but not McCain (quoted in The Washington Post):

    “I should mention how glad my fellow Democrats and I were to have our nominee for president here to vote on these important bills. Senator Obama has come to work and taken tough stands. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Senator McCain,” Reid said. “Perhaps taking tough stands on important issues is not part of Senator McCain’s campaign strategy. Perhaps he’s just too busy on the campaign trail to do his day job.”

  271. Anyone take a look at the Berg challange and waffles motion to dismiss today. It’s all legal speak.
    ——————————————-
    henry: this legal writer says he thinks the judge has an order waiting. An order of dismissal, an order to show cause, an order to compel obama to present a lawful birth certificate? He seems to imply that the court will dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction. I would rather get into this later once we see what the court does with it.

  272. Somethings has happened in NH.

    McCain is now 2 ahead with Rassmussen but stunningly, Sunnunu has accelrated +12 to lead Shaheen now 52 to 45.

    I think NH is solidly slipping to go to McCain now.

  273. There are no politics if we dont get a solution.

    The only thing bugging him is he did not think of this.

    He should be there representing the people of Illionois and the country.

    But he is not up to it/

  274. So if the deal does or doesnt happen, the fact is Obama stayed away and McCain did his damdest to get a concensus, it will just look like Obama couldnt have given a rats ass.

  275. You’d think someone on Obama’s campaign would have the balls to say, damned if you do damned if you don’t but get your ass to DC now or McCains going to cream you. Thats the problem they have all been neutered.

  276. Miss the meeting and you forfeit opportunities to influence the group at critical moments. Both candidate need to be at that meeting and the subject matter is so important to out future that it must have his divided attention.

  277. Idunn Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
    Did Reid really tell McCain that he needed him here yesterday?

    Anyone have a link to that?

    ********************************************

    Idunn, here are two related links:

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/stephanopoulo-4.html

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-wont-jump-alone-2008-09-23.html

  278. neetabug: I remember that shocking admission by the hustler in a debate and Hillary cleaned his clock in each and every debate.Counting money one bill at the time no doubt had some bearing on such a stupid statement.The Hustler is so consumed with himself and his importance in the political campaign that leads one to believe the Gump phrase about the stupidity factor that he demonstrates each and every day.

    By ABM90

  279. moon,

    Don’t you know that once all the hard work is done Obama will swoop in with his mighty sword and grace DC with his presence? And then with a flourish he will sharpen his quill and sign on as lead to the results?

    C’mon, we all know that he won’t let anyone push him out of the limelight…lol…

  280. Didn’t Pelosi want to shut everything down and go on vacation? Now that McCain is making waves the dems are all gung ho to save the day?

  281. The important thing:

    McCain will still attend the Clinton Global initiative and give his speech be ore descending
    down to face the DEM vultures.!!!!

  282. I had a good laugh when I read a post about a wish list that a Hill supporter described. quote'”I wish that I were a Dog and Hustler was a Tree”.That is one that Tweety would enjoy.

    By ABM90

  283. McCain knows what the word leadership and patriot mean. Obama is clueless. In the face of a major national crisis Obama wiles away his time trying to scapegoat the clintons. If obama supporters in the congress cant see through the messiah now they are non compos mentis.

  284. LOL…Lou Dobbs is making mincemeat out of the argument that the debate should go on. He’s arguing that the debate is on foreign affairs when the major crisis at the moment is the economy.

  285. I am going to my local dem rep. office to see what she thought about this move by mccain…

    If she disagrees, I will be voting REPUB all ticket this november.

  286. Honestly, just think how wonderful everyone would have thought Obama was if he had come forth before McCain and suspended his campaign. The skies would have opened. The celestial choir would have sung. Angels would have graced us with their presence. And there would be peace in the world. 😉

  287. As i said to my friend earlier.

    A debate can wait and be rescheduled, unfortunately the world economy does not do rescheduling.

  288. The skies would have opened. The celestial choir would have sung. Angels would have graced us with their presence. And there would be peace in the world.
    —————————————–
    Yea Jan. And to quote our girl: “I’ve just lived a little long”.

  289. Thank you for phoning, Welcome to Obama HQ, please pick an menu option to proceed.

    Press 1 if your bank has collapsed and you need Sen Obama to be called and you may need him

    Press 2 if the economy is on the brink of disaster to be put straight to Sen McCain

    Press 3 if you wish to leave your mortgage details so the Dem party can include you in the bailout bill.

    Press 4 if you mistakenly called thinking Sen Obama gives a shit.

  290. McCain is in a win-win situation. If the Dims all of a sudden try to pull back, they look like the selfish losers they are. Pilosi wants to save the day.

    Aint gonna happen!

  291. ”I wish that I were a Dog and Hustler was a Tree”.
    ——————————————–
    I agree ABM 90. It was a great line.

  292. ABC News has learned that President Bush called Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., this evening and invited him to participate in a meeting about the Wall Street bailout bill tomorrow afternoon in Washington, DC, with other congressional leaders, including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

    Obama accepted the president’s invitation, a source tells ABC News.

    The invitation comes at an interesting time. The President has not been in the middle of negotiations with Congress, leaving that task to his Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

    McCain earlier today announced he was suspending his campaign — and his participation in the first presidential debate Friday night — in order to return to the Capitol to work on the flailing bill. McCain’s move has been denounced by Democrats and political observers as a political gimmick, though the McCain campaign insists the senator is trying to put politics aside to solve the stalled legislation.

    President Bush’s move could be seen as an attempt to aid McCain’s gambit by creating a presidential-level meeting where the Arizona Republican is present.

    Obama still intends to attend the debate Friday evening.

  293. he is stuck with his positon that the debates must go on. I hope his opponent is an empty chair and it will be if nothing gets resloved until the weekend–because my surmise is the deadling is Sunday before markets open–but I could be wrong.

  294. Freaking hilarious

    McCain volunteers to come sort out the economic mess, its his agenda, Bambi had to be forced by the President, which he couldnt turn down.

    MCain goes to Washington
    Bambi says No
    President basically says get your ass here
    Obama can’t really refuse.

  295. McCain is an old political dog and he knows a lot of tricks and this just smacks of brilliance. I don’t care about the polls – at the end of the day, the voters will see two candidates handle the economic crisis differently: one went down to business and forgot about ambition to solve the country’s problems, one decried his inability to capitalize on his temporary momentum by robbing the MSM another excuse to fawn over him (nevermind how he actually performs in debates). One worked on the economic crisis because it’s good for the country, one wants to delay any real reform because he thinks an economic crisis will help his candidacy. It’s really a no-brainer.

  296. Basically Obama was told by the President to come to Washington, lol.
    ———————————————
    that is more like it.

  297. lol just saw this elsewhere.

    I think the call really went like this:

    Bush: Barry, you know your job is in the Senate. I need you to do your job

    BO: But i am on the campaign trail

    Bush: I’ll tell you just one time. Get yer ass to my place tomorrow by 9AM. Or I will hand you your ass on a silver platter

    BO: Uh, er, um, wha, oh, um, yes sir

  298. McCain is an old political dog and he knows a lot of tricks and this just smacks of brilliance. I don’t care about the polls – at the end of the day, the voters will see two candidates handle the economic crisis differently: one went down to business and forgot about ambition to solve the country’s problems, one decried his inability to capitalize on his temporary momentum by robbing the MSM another excuse to fawn over him (nevermind how he actually performs in debates). One worked on the economic crisis because it’s good for the country, one wants to delay any real reform because he thinks an economic crisis will help his candidacy. It’s really a no-brainer.
    ———————————————
    VERY WELL PUT.

  299. The bots are going nuts, that Obama has given into McCain and Bush, they think he’s just betrayed, go look at the blogs they are going mental.

  300. if there is a debate, Bambi will be ill prepared because he had to interrupt his debate training with actual, real Senate work and helping to save the country…to think!

    if they have the debate on Friday, Bambi will be in the headlights – he’ll suck; he’ll have to read his answers off a cheat sheet or writing on his hand.

  301. McCains camp is genius, they set bambi up good and proper today, they anticipated every move bambi made.

    The hilarious part is, it took the one person Bambi has been slamming over and over, Pres Bush, to get Obama’s ass back to Washington and Obama ran like a puppy.

    The Dems are furious.

  302. I can just see Big Dawg chuckling about this McCain goes to Washington issue.

    and then, he’ll say, I love how that Todd Palin broke his arm and went 500 miles in that dog race- you just gotta admire that.

  303. McCain sets Obama up by asking him to suspend and no debate

    Obama refuses and carries on campaigning, ignores the situation.

    Knowing he would refuse, McCain asks Bush to make Obama come to Washington now he’s refused

    Bush phones Obama and tells him to shift his ass and get down here

    Obama cannot refuse what is in effect an order from the WH and has to accept or look even stupider

    Obama will have to sit in a room one on one with Bush and McCain and talk economics.

    This ought to be fun, how does Obama stand out in all this, he’ll be railroaded.

  304. It’s amazing how clueless the elites in the media is…even on FOXNews there are some that are clueless about what LEADERSHIP is.

  305. It makes it look like it takes a Presidential directive to get Obama to fulfill his Senatorial duties … Which it apparently does.

  306. Local Republicans react to McCain campaign halt

    Posted: Sep 24, 2008 05:37 PM PDT

    Updated: Sep 24, 2008 05:37 PM PDT

    BY CRYSTAL COSTA
    CCOSTA@KJCT8.COM

    The people running the political campaigns on the Western Slope say they were shocked to hear the news of Senator John McCain’s temporary suspension of his campaign. Local McCain headquarters officials say he did the right thing. They say this shows the kind of man McCain is.

    Local Republicans feel he chose the sagging economy over his aspirations for the White House. They say by choosing to temporarily suspend his campaign, McCain is trying to determine the best economic solutions for all Americans.

    McCain’s slogan is “Country First.” Local Republicans believe his decision reflects that motto. “It shows that John cares more about the people, it’s a very unselfish move. He gave up a couple days which at the time is precious, he gave a lot,” said Mesa County Republican Gary Blackman.

    “It’s country first, it’s not about him, it’s not about his campaign, it’s about our country the United States of America,” said Mesa County Chair Gary Roahrig.

    Republicans we spoke with say they are not worried about this break hindering McCain’s run for the White House. They think it’s a bold and necessary move, considering the state of our economy.

    They tell us they don’t think this will negatively affect his campaign, but rather it might help prove to the American people his sincerity.

    http://www.kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=9069695

  307. The best thing is McCain pulled off what he wanted

    The President did what McCain asked him to do this afternoon in his statement. McCain called for Bush to convene an emergency summit meeting between Bush, Congressional leaders, himself and Obama to find a solution to this crisis.

    Bush did it, he called Bambi’s bluff, when Bambi said call me when i’m needed, so Bush did.

    I’m laughing my head off.

  308. Obama rebuffs McCain’s call to delay debate

    Associated Press – September 24, 2008 8:43 PM ET

    NEW YORK (AP) – John McCain won’t participate in Friday’s debate against Barack Obama unless there’s an agreement on the Bush administration’s proposed bailout of financial institutions.

    That’s according to South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, McCain’s representative in debate negotiations. Graham tells The Associated Press that the agreement would have to be publicly endorsed by Obama, McCain, the White House and congressional leaders.

    McCain said earlier that he would stop all advertising, fund-raising and other campaign events to return to Washington and work for a bipartisan solution. He also challenged Obama to delay the debate.

    Obama responded that a debate is even more important now and said the candidates should be able to do two things at once.

    An Obama spokesman said he believes “there’s going to be a stage, a moderator, an audience and at least one presidential candidate

    http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9069712&nav=MXEFM7m7

  309. carbynew Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
    It’s amazing how clueless the elites in the media is…even on FOXNews there are some that are clueless about what LEADERSHIP is.
    ***************

    Something has not been right with Fox for sometime. They use to be lock step 24/7 all Repub all day. NEVER a negative word about the Right agenda, the War, Bush. Now someone has greased some palms and I expect it to get worse.

  310. Fresnans react to McCain’s decision to suspend campaign
    By Preston Phillips

    Les Hiatt, “Fresno for Obama”: “Just shocked, I couldn’t believe it; this is more shocking than the Palin announcement.”

    Watch The Video

    Shortly after Senator John McCain’s announcement Wednesday, to suspend all campaign efforts, so he can head back to Washington and focus on the country’s economic crisis, Fresno democrats are calling his unprecedented political move, nothing more than a ploy.

    George graham, Obama supporter: “I think it’s a dodge. I think he needs to do the debate, two more after that. What’s he gonna do? He’s a senator; he’s not the president yet. He can’t do anything about the economy.”

    Meanwhile, the Republican headquarters in Fresno has now moved into what they’re calling a “no comment” phase, as it too was shocked by the senator’s announcement.

    However, Fresno McCain supporter, Jan Cruz believes the republican presidential candidate would debate Obama anytime, anywhere, and says she doesn’t believe McCain is dodging his opponent.

    Jan Cruz, McCain supporter: “If he thinks he can do something to help, if they’re voting on things and he needs to be there, I think he ought to be there.”

    Graham: “Hard to know what’s in his heart, I think it’s a bad move, I think he needs to stick with the campaign. There’s plenty of time to worry about the economy later.”

    Today, Governor Schwarzenegger issued this statement that reads in part, “I commend senator McCain for suspending his campaign and returning to Washington to help congress take the quick and decisive action needed to put America’s financial sector back on track.”

    Hiatt: “To me, it seems we need to talk about the issues. If it’s a microscope this crisis has caused, we need to be under that microscope.”

    And Friday’s presidential debate is still expected to take place as scheduled.

    Hiatt says the Obama campaign says the debate is on.

    http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/29722614.html

  311. Of course now Obamas been forced to Washington by the President, he doesnt know what to do, he’ll have to stand on his own 2 feet with the big boys, this should be good.

    McCain and Bush are going to rip him to pieces.

  312. carbynew Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
    Obama rebuffs McCain’s call to delay debate
    *******************

    And the 10 town hall meetings the Fraud refused to attend?

  313. McCain, Palin win at Wal-Mart, Obama takes StarbucksPhoenix Business Journal – by Mike Sunnucks

    John McCain holds a 46 percent to 44 percent lead over presidential rival Barack Obama in a new poll of voters in 14 battleground states.

    That reverses a 3-point lead for Obama in the same poll in August and comes despite national surveys showing Obama with a slight lead.

    McCain and running mate Sarah Palin fare better with Wal-Mart shoppers and older voters — women in particular — in the poll, while Obama enjoys support from Starbucks customers, younger voters and women with college degrees.

    The National Public Radio/Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research poll surveyed 800 voters on Sept. 18 and 20 in Minnesota, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Virginia, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Missouri.

    The poll also found:

    • McCain with a 53 percent to 41 percent lead over Obama among swing state voters 55 and older and Obama with 59 percent to 28 percent advantage with women ages 18 to 34.

    • McCain with a 56 percent to 35 percent edge among independents 50 and older and Obama with 40 percent to 33 percent lead among independents 18 to 49.

    • Starbucks customers favor Obama 52 percent to 39 percent, while Wal-Mart shoppers go with McCain 58 percent versus 33 percent for Obama.

    The NPR poll also showed Palin more popular with older women — including Wal-Mart consumers — than with younger woman.

    Independent Ralph Nader got 3 percent in the September poll.

    A compilation of several national polls by Real Clear Politics gives Obama a 48 percent to 44 percent lead over McCain.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/09/22/daily43.html?t=printable

  314. Yahoo headline right now –Jennifer Loven, no less:

    Bush adopts McCain’s recommendation and calls for meeting of candidates and Congressional leaders

  315. I asked the question earlier — who will drag Obama kicking and screaming to Washington DC? The fact that it was Bush makes the bots go crazy. This whole thing does not look good at all for their princess.

  316. pm, i know, i’m pissing myself laughing.

    Obama now has to be in the big boy league and do hard negotiations, this is going to be fun, watching him flail.

  317. President Bush: Hello Senator Obama, this is the President.

    The One: Wassup whitey?

    President Bush: Just to let you know, I’m addressing the American people this evening. I have two versions of my speech, one in which I say you are missing in action during a time of crisis, while John McCain put his country first, and another in which I thank both candidates for coming back to Washington. You can pick which one I say.

    The One: Whatchoo talkin’ bout Willis?

    President Bush: Good day, Barry.

  318. gonzotx Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
    carbynew Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
    It’s amazing how clueless the elites in the media is…even on FOXNews there are some that are clueless about what LEADERSHIP is.
    ***************

    Something has not been right with Fox for sometime. They use to be lock step 24/7 all Repub all day. NEVER a negative word about the Right agenda, the War, Bush. Now someone has greased some palms and I expect it to get worse.
    *****************************************************
    You have to realize that there are a class system at FOXNEWS that is no different then CNN & MSNBC.

    Brit Hume and his group the Elite Media Princes has cozy relationships in DC/NY and so they are very close with their brother and sisters like Andrea Mitchell and then you have Sean Hannity and others who are the regular folks and do the fighting and not really part of the Washington DC insider game. They are just not and this is when you can really see the class difference.

    Brit Hume was snarking about McCain populist stances out on the Campaign trail and why Sarah Palin was just the worst mistake until they saw how great she connected with the voters…so they will tolerate her until she makes a mistake and then off they’ll jump on the Obama side.

  319. McCain is a master! I’m just beside myself with glee that he’s kicking Obama’s @ss. He’s too smart for Obama. (Hillary was smarter but she was hampered by the liberal MSM – McCain doesn’t have that handicap.)

  320. I have to add my two cents about McCain suspending his campaign. Brilliant. Honorable. Worker.

    Hillary would have done the same. We need him.

  321. Way to look presidential, Obama!
    Wednesday September 24, 2008
    posted by Michele McGinty

    McCain gives Obama a gift, come to Washington and work in a bi-partisan manner to make sure that something is done about the bailout — something both sides believe should be done. And Obama passes on the opportunity. Amazing! He could have demonstrated that he was post-partisan and determined to put the needs of the nation first but he blew it off so he could continue preparing for a debate. So, during a crisis we now know that Obama won’t put his own needs behind the needs of the people.

    Not only did he miss the opportunity to demonstrate to America how he’d work in a bi-partisan manner but he looked petty as well. Starting the press conference off with who called who first really looked small and like political jockeying.

    And this is absolutely amazing:

    Obama said he had told congressional leaders who are trying to hammer out an agreement on the bailout plan that he was prepared to go to Washington if it would help.

    “What is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics.”

    Has he resigned from the Senate? Who replaced him as the Jr. Senator from Illinois? He’s acting like he doesn’t have a stake in what’s going on in Congress, he should be there doing his job for the people of Illinois, not being above it all. If he doesn’t want to represent the people, maybe he should resign from the Senate so that someone who wants to represent their state to make sure they have a voice in what is going on.
    continue…..

    blog.beliefnet.com/reformedchicksblabbing/2008/09/way-to-look-presidential-obama.html

  322. Obama said he had told congressional leaders who are trying to hammer out an agreement on the bailout plan that he was prepared to go to Washington if it would help.

    “What is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics.”
    ***************

    Didn’t you know, he is the “One’. He is available by phone apparently…

  323. JanH Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
    I wonder if he will vote “present” again.
    ***************

    He’ll hit the wrong button

  324. CNN’s Martina Stewart reports this from Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings, speaking to an audience of Jewish Democrats:

    “If Sarah Palin isn’t enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,” Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida said at a panel about the shared agenda of Jewish and African-American Democrats Wednesday. Hastings, who is African-American, was explaining what he intended to tell his Jewish constituents about the presidential race. “Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through,” Hastings added as the room erupted in laughter and applause.

    http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/massively_offensive_quote_of_t.html

  325. carby, what is scary is the comments on that article. The bots see nothing wrong with it at all. Nothing. The man obviously practically accused Palin of being a KKK murderer who hates Jews and blacks because she hunts and has a gun.

    And the bots in the comment thread have no problem with that.

    So now all hunters and gun-owners are racist crazies who want to “do something with” blacks and Jews?

  326. Are we all sitting here waiting for admin?… who said,

    “This Wednesday we will post our long awaited opus regarding What Hillary Supporters Should Do after the election in NOvember. Some of what we suggest will be denounced. Some of what we suggest will be applauded. What matters is that the strategy will be set and the time of longer term action will arrive.”

  327. I’m thinking that Obama is in meltdown just about now. Either that or in Economics Class 101 cramming for the meeting tomorrow so he will understand the big words!

  328. On that poll for whether or not the debate should go on, apparently these people do not care about the economy. I just can’t believe how some people think. They would rather listen to a debate about foreign affairs, instead of getting the economy on track. They can still have the debate, just have it at another time.

    Everyone that voted to have this debate instead of having congress trying to do something about this economy, should all go broke.

    I am glad they are not having it at this time, Friday night is a bad time anyway. O wants to have it because he knows not many people will be watching to see how bad he performs.

  329. carbynew Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
    CNN’s Martina Stewart reports this from Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings, speaking to an audience of Jewish Democrats:

    ========================================================================

    Carby, that was a very disturbing article, on so many different levels. Unbelievable, that this is coming from so-called leaders in the dimocratic party.

    =================================================================

    MP: Thank you. I;’m not sure, if it is the unedited version or not.

  330. Janh, that is huge context switch from Foreign policy 101 to Economics 101. What if they finish this by tomorrow evening and the debate goes on.. 🙂

  331. neetabug Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Don’t worry about early polls – those are just knee-jerk reactions. What’s more important is the narrative that comes out of it. With the contrast in how McCain and Obama handled the situation – McCain can easily paint Obama as someone who considers his ambitions more important than the country.

    Obama can do what? Tell the country that McCain is afraid to debate him on foreign policy? Nobody will believe that. Will he tell the country that Mccain is running from a debate about the economy? That’s a hard-sell, particulary since the debate is not about the economy and McCain is actually going to Capitol Hill to help solve the looming economic crisis.

    This decision is a win for McCain no matter what the early polls suggest.

  332. Recall my earlier post today asking for help in finding an intelligent flier that won’t turn people off ?- no smear stuff — just something to get them thinking? Well, how about if I make a flyer with the announcement of McCain’s campaign suspension and O’s reaction to it as reported on this thread with some of your choicest comments — whaddya think?

  333. Wow just watched one of the worst bot videos ever. People talking about what they do with themselves while watching Sara Palin.The fact that people who behave like that are inspired by bambi is repugnant.

  334. Seems there’s no-one here but me … ok
    grape: I think that’s a great idea — some of the comments were very intelligent and revealed great insight into the situation! Whatever you do, don’t edit out the the snark and the smilies and the rotflmao and wtf.

    Ok, I won’t.

    Admin has only 75 minutes left till it isn’t Wednesday anymore.

    Henry, stop watching excitable videos. What would your mother say?

  335. NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

    We were going to postpone publication due to all the other news but it does not appear there will be a slow news day anytime soon.

    The new article is a good jumping point as to what comes next.

  336. Greta reporting that a yahoo poll shows absolutely no movement of Hillary supporters over to Obama in the last few months. 42% still won’t support him.

  337. My guess it obama sent a signal to his bots in congress to do what durbin is was doing yesterday which is to say why rush while obama hides and allows the situation to get worse. Meanwhile the centrist democrats like Rendell et al see this fot the crisis it is. They are not partywreckera they are patriotic. So are many republicans and surely John McCain. The answer was to drag Obama from the shadows and into the spotlight and put the arm arould him to forget politics and do what is right for the country. When he is forced to do that or let things slide into oblivon his bots will have to follow and a deal will be forthcoming. Obama would sink the entire country to save his own ass and mccain will not let him do that. But if Obama becomes president god help us/

  338. gretawire.foxnews.com/
    Why do you think Sen. McCain is suggesting that the debate be postponed?
    It is a political stunt 11% (3330 votes)
    He is putting country first 89% (26010 votes)

  339. neetabug Says: I just can’t believe how some people think. They would rather listen to a debate about foreign affairs, instead of getting the economy on track. They can still have the debate, just have it at another time.
    =============

    The debate will be more valuable and informative later, after some action has been taken on the crisis — which will affect foreign affairs in many ways. Whatever positions the candidates take Friday, would be obsolete in a few days.

    Maybe Obama doesn’t want to get caught with out of date memorized lines? Or doesn’t want to show his ignorance in Washington? Or hopes to say that McCain didn’t show up so he’s not doing any more debates at all, so there!

    I hope he’s really going to look silly. “At least one presidential candidate”? That’s an invitation for Barracuda to show up in her official duty of substituting for McCain!

  340. Admin has only 75 minutes left till it isn’t Wednesday anymore
    ===============

    Well, depending on what time zone she/they are in. That could be a clue, Batman!

  341. lil ole grape Says:

    September 24th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Hoorayyy! Admin made the deadline!

    ===========

    Rats. Now we still have no clue where she/they are. Somewhere west of England I suppose, or of Bermuda.

  342. Shorttermer,

    I would be very suspicious of Hill Pac since it is trying to help Obama. Even after November he will still be around and still have some hold on Hillary, so I will never be able to trust HIll Pac.

    If anyone wants some new women’s organizations that are trustworthy, see

    newwomensparty@yahoogroups.com

    or

    http://thenewagenda.net/

    A group of Hillary Clinton supporters condemned the National Organization for Women’s endorsement of Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden earlier this week.
    ….
    The New Agenda represents the coming together of more than 30 prominent Clinton supporters, many deeply involved in the bitter Democratic primary battle, into a new post-primary initiative to fight media sexism. The group, explained Siskind in an interview, evolved from the Together for Us group of Clinton supporters founded by, among others, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, who endorsed Obama rival Sen. John McCain this week. The group also has drawn members from some of the other pro-Clinton efforts, such as Cynthia Ruccia, who during the primaries was a leader of the Ohio-based group Clinton Supporters Count Too, and, later, Women for Fair Politics. [ Lynette Long is involved too. ]

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