Barack Obama’s Dimocrats

There are many reasons why we say:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

Barack Obama moved what used to be the Democratic National Committee (hereinafter, the Dimocratic National Committee) to the home of corruption, Chicago. Obama shut down any competition to money for his own campaign, including 527s. Obama wanted all the money. Obama made promises to all his “friends” while tossing former “friend” after former “friend” under the proverbial bus.

In exchange, the Dimocrats had to drag Obama across the primary finish line and select Obama at their convention by (1) demanding Hillary Clinton stop campaigning and ignore voters; (2) disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida as well as say that many states were irrelevant to the democratic process; (3) exploit sexism and misogyny either by silence or complicity in order to trash Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton; (4) exploit racism and homophobia.

Now the Dimocrats are getting what they deserve from Barack Obama, the man who cannot be trusted by either friend or foe:

Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made a personal appeal to Barack Obama: Help me grow the Democrats’ Senate majority by sharing some of the $77 million you’ve got in the bank.

Obama’s campaign said no.

Although Democratic insiders say a better deal could still come, the Obama campaign so far has agreed only to let Senate Democrats use Obama’s name — as well as those of his wife and running mate — in mail and online fundraising pitches. The campaign has planned no joint fundraising events with House or Senate Democrats, and insiders say none is likely to be held before Election Day.

Obama says he can’t spare the cash. What happened to the promise of all that cash Reaganesquely “trickling down”?

In rejecting a direct request from his Senate leader, Obama has put a fine point on the financial pressures he’s feeling as the presidential race turns toward the fall.

Obama raised a record-setting $66 million in August, leaving his campaign with about $77 million in cash now. [snip]

Reid and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Charles Schumer had hoped at one point to get as much as $10 million from the Obama campaign. With 23 GOP seats up for grabs this year — versus only a dozen Democratic seats — Senate Democrats see a once-in-a-generation opportunity to pad their majority with as many as four to seven new seats.

But to do that, they’ll need money, and lots of it. While the DSCC still has a huge financial advantage over its GOP counterpart, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the geographic overlap between competitive Senate seats and the tight presidential race means the McCain campaign and the RNC will be dumping tens of millions of dollars into battleground states with competitive Senate races. This will likely help down-ballot GOP candidates and incumbents. [snip]

One Democratic source familiar with the intraparty dispute over money said that fundraising e-mails and direct-mail pitches “are helpful, but we really don’t care about that. We need more help than that.” [snip]

Democrats on Capitol Hill have grumbled for months that it has been hard to orchestrate campaign events and appearances with the Obama campaign. One Democratic strategist said the campaign frequently turns down requests to have Obama appear with a Democratic incumbent or challenger, and that the events that do happen come only after some “very heavy lifting.”

Obama only cares about himself not the Dimocrats he has flim-flammed. Obama will be busy tonight laughing once again at “bitter” and “clingy” small town Americans while raising yet more money.

Meanwhile, blogging Dimocrats, continue to defend the inexperienced, unqualified, and not to be trusted Obama. These Big Blog Dimocrats are busy insulting Sarah Palin and stomping their heels at Hillary supporters who refuse to reward sexism and misogyny.

One Big Blogger in particular, a woman lawyer, is particularly angry. This Big Blog Dimocrat writes:

It’s revenge voting and cutting off your nose to spite your face. When their candidate didn’t win, they put punishing the nominee ahead of the danger posed by their opponents.

I don’t think there are enough of them to make a difference. Most people have more sense.

Of course that Big Blog Dimocrat had earlier written that the selection of Joe Biden as a running mate would be a “deal-breaker“. In other words, if Obama chose Joe Biden to run with, this particular Big Blog Dimocrat would NOT support the ticket. The Big Blog Dimocrat wrote that Joe Biden’s history was simply unacceptable. That was then.

Now the Big Blog Dimocrat has decided to eat her own bitter words, support the Dimocratic ticket, AND insult those who think Obama/Biden is a deal breaker as “revenge voters”. Sad. These Dimocrats can’t be trusted either. Words matter. Saying something is a “deal-breaker” matters. Refusing to understand that Obama is not to be trusted and a total “deal breaker” for Hillary supporters is dim. That is why that Big Blogger is a Dimocrat.

Another Dimocrat spoke yesterday with Joe Biden approving her remarks:

At Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden’s rally Monday evening in Flat Rock, Michigan, Barbara Theaker, a local supporter, called Biden’s Republican counterpart Sarah Palin “a bucket of fluff“.

“Barack Obama has made an intelligent choice for the vice-presidency,” Theaker said in her introduction of Biden. “So very different this is from that bucket of fluff that the Republican candidate has chosen for the same position.”

When Theaker finished her remarks, Biden told her, “You are good! My Lord!”

This is not the first time a Biden supporter has used the introduction to hit out at Palin.

Last Tuesday in St. Louis, Missouri Rep. Russ Carnahan said of the Alaska governor, “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick.”

There are a lot of Dimocrats who have authored the defeat coming this NOvember.

Hillary Clinton is not a Dimocrat. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat.

Hillary Clinton said in an interview this morning that it was possible to be enthusiastic about Sarah Palin’s historic candidacy without supporting the Republican ticket.

“People are missing the boat here,” Clinton said on ABC’s Good Morning America. “I don’t think that it’s inconsistent for a lot people to say, ‘Well hey, that’s exciting, what an exciting pick,’ and still say, ‘But that’s not the ticket for me and my family.’

She added that voters should not consider the race in terms of who they’re for but rather which candidate is for them.

Hillary Clinton understands that Sarah Palin is an exciting candidate. The Dimocrats and Big Blogs want to destroy another woman running for office with sexist insults but Hillary Clinton remains a class act.

The American people and American voters are learning that Obama is not to be trusted. Increasingly, Americans are moving to John McCain. In spite of McCain’s positions on the issues, because Obama cannot be trusted, and because Obama does not have the necessary experience to be President of the United States, Americans are abandoning Obama and the Dimocrats.

In addition, the insulting Obama attempts to make McCain appear “out of touch” are increasingly viewed as a smear about McCain’s age. At least today, many Americans will find themselves agreeing with John McCain on the economy.

John McCain this morning called for a commission modeled on the government’s in-depth investigation of the 9/11 terrorist attack to probe what prompted the financial crisis now gripping Wall St and sending shockwaves through the market.

Appearing on CBS’s “The Early Show,” McCain faulted the “greed, excess, [and] corruption” of financial executives.

“We need to set up a 9/11 Commission in order to get to the bottom of this and get it fixed and act to clean up this corruption,” he said.

Dimocrats will continue to insult Governor Sarah Palin and Senator John McCain. Dimocrat Big Blogs will continue to insult Hillary supporters who refuse to reward sexism and misogyny.

Dimocrats will continue to say Hillary supporters are bitter and clingy.

Dimocrats will be disappointed in NOvember when they suffer an historic loss.

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403 thoughts on “Barack Obama’s Dimocrats

  1. I really have to wonder if Obama is really bringing in this much cash or is it being inflated. You can put promises of cash but unless it actually comes then its a false donation. I’m wondering if the cash is going out and coming back in again under different names, i don’t think he’s raising what he says he is, there is bookcooking going on here.

  2. All those Dem superdelegates that were promised cash and help in return for supporting Obama to take out Hillary are getting a rude awakening, he got the nomination and then said “screw you all”.

  3. Henry:

    Shhhh. I’m trying to keep my wife from remembering that it’s primary day today. I don’t want her cancelling out my vote.

  4. “Dimocrats” How true.

    Here is a link to Biden’s gaffee and Treaker’s “a bucket of fluff.”

    Biden’s latest gaffe: “Americans in small towns are not used to someone as smart as Obama.”

    After that, a woman calls Palin “a bucket of fluff.” Biden looks embarrassed and turns away.

    http://www.bythefault.com/

  5. I have no idea whatever possessed these downticket Dims to think that Obama would lift a finger to help them at all.

    Hello??? He had already proved in every way possible that he had NO core loyalty to the Democratic Party, that he was a lazy ass incapable of hard work, especially on behalf of anyone but himself, and that above all he was NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

    I saw it. Admin saw it. Hillary saw it. 18 million Democrats saw it. But somehow these idiots thought he was all about the Big Tent.

    Sheesh, and they call US low-information! His selfishness and arrogance has been as plain as the nose on your face, for months. I guess these Dimocrats thought, when they helped him steal an election, that there was honor among thieves? I could have told them better.

  6. I must cofess to a certain level of stupidity prior to this selection I did not know that “calling a spade a spade” was racially derrogative. I thought it was about poker. Now I realize I misunderstood the phrase “in the tank”. I believed it alluded to a fish tank. But I guess i was wrong. It’s a military reference?

  7. well as I said it yesterday, Pelosi was askinng for donations for congress under the “obama opportunity fund”…

    Sounds like a sleazy investment gimmick offered at wall st firms these days!!!

  8. well hillary:

    Obama is not for me; gaffe boy biden is a lit too much to handle as daiper changer for BO; no wonder he needs to rant off the course time to time.

    McCain speaks honorably for me like my father/grandfather; sarah speaks like a sister to me….sometimes too good for my own good but there you have it.

    McCain/sarah for me this time around.

    I have changed my mind big time about drilling…I want more drilling at home ASAP!!!!

  9. Hillary is so much smarter than the rest of them it is incredible. Biden and Obama are telling the American people they are stupid if they do not vote for the gaff prone brilliant one. Hillary is saying you are not stupid you can admire Sara and still vote for the issues that matter. Talk about casting pearls before swine. If you look at bill burton for a minute you see why they are in trouble. If that asshole worked for me he would be gone within hours. That kind of arrogance has no place in a campaign.

  10. Obama does not connect with ordinary people. It isnt because he is so smart– a dubious proposition in its own right. Rather, it is because he has no empathy for them.

  11. ^
    if you look at bill burton for a minute you see why they are in trouble. If that asshole worked for me he would be gone within hours. That kind of arrogance has no place in a campaign.

    not in barack’s campaign: arrogance, selfishness, ego, narcissism, deceit, chauvinism, lawlessness and now greed are the norm.

  12. with Obama, he’ll bullshit and use anyone to get his goal. those who think that he’ll scratch their backs because the did his – are the most stupidest of fools.

    dimocrats, indeed. thanks, admin for another bullseye.

  13. Hillary Clinton is not a Dimocrat. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat.

    Hillary Clinton said in an interview this morning that it was possible to be enthusiastic about Sarah Palin’s historic candidacy without supporting the Republican ticket.

    “People are missing the boat here,” Clinton said on ABC’s Good Morning America. “I don’t think that it’s inconsistent for a lot people to say, ‘Well hey, that’s exciting, what an exciting pick,’ and still say, ‘But that’s not the ticket for me and my family.’

    ******
    Hillary is revealing what her tactic would’ve been if she were in BO’s place. She always takes the high-road, and people would’ve respected that. She directs the attention away from Palin’s gender and to the issues. BO’s campaign keeps highlighting Palin’s gender indirectly – by saying she’s inexperienced when she has more experience than BO, it’s a double standard that people “get” unconsciously is about her gender. Of course, idiots like Maher and Randi Rhodes are overt with their sexism – calling her a stewardess, or invoking the idea that she “sleeps with teenage boys,” or pointing out how motherhood and can she balance 5 children and the VP job, it keeps underlining Palin’s gender…and so the Dimocrats are trapped in their own inability to rise above it to challenge Palin on issues.

  14. not in barack’s campaign: arrogance, selfishness, ego, narcissism, deceit, chauvinism, lawlessness and now greed are the norm.
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    true. and those are the mortal sins of his candidacy. Plus no experience, judgment or common sense=flake.

  15. henry,

    I thought ‘in-the-tank” meant supporting a person or candidate, usually not admitting or verbalizing it directly but showing through actions and comments whose side one is on.

    BTW, in looking up the def I came across this interesting usage.
    Boxing Slang. to go through the motions of a match but deliberately lose because of an illicit prearrangement or fix; throw a fight.

  16. If things were different and I had to pick an adversary I would love to have people like Maher and Rhoades on the other side. They come across as lunatics, and people of common sense reject their message almost instinctively. When your see who frames the argument as Hillary does you call your client and tell him I think we should settle this case rather than let it go to the jury. Most people understand that there is nuance to everything and an argument framed in absolute terms may excite partisans but it will not move most other people.

  17. “Rarely does the National Organization For Women endorse a presidential candidate. On Tuesday, the group announced it is endorsing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Kim Gandy, president of NOW, talks with Renee Montagne about why the organization is endorsing Obama.”

    Another women’s organization bites the dust. I guess, only liberal, pro-choice women deserve the support of so-called women’s organizations. By endorsing BO, NOW, is giving tacit approval for all the race-baiting, misogyny, and sexism that was directed towards Senator Clinton and her supporters. Even if they were not for Palin, they could have recognized the historic aspect of her candidacy, like Senator Clinton so eloquently spoke about this a.m. What a double standard. Shameful.

  18. Some of my favorites:

    Dope-On-A-Rope-Crats
    Despicablecrats
    denialcrats
    destroyercrats
    diabolicrats
    dictatorialcrats
    dipstickcrats
    disastercrats
    dumdumcrats

  19. wow……just wow!

    BHO told harry reid NO!! wish i could say i am surprised…..but i am not…..ADMIN here at big pink has been saying he could not be trusted
    but friend or foe for a year or more now

    hmmmmm

    Dean,pelosi,reid,kerry…… they need to pay way more attention to Admin and the rest of big pink!

    I’ll bet the down dim’s wish they had 😀

    Dumb@ssocrats!

  20. I prefer the writing “Demicrat” because “demi” means “half.” Thus we have the Demicratic Politburo (DNC) and the new Demicratic Party.

    Also, I’ve noted that we no longer refer to the Republicans as “Repugs,” which is a good thing. Here in NJ and the NYC area in general, there is a healthy respect for the Republican Party. Even if there are far more registered Dems than Repubs, the Republicans do stand a chance in any election. They are generally not tainted with corruption.

  21. I have no idea whatever possessed these downticket Dims to think that Obama would lift a finger to help them at all.
    ———————————————
    Let us hope for their sake (not ours) that they took the money he bribed them with when they were superdelegates and put it in their piggy bank because as the song says “that rainy day is here.”

  22. with all due respect to hillary, if this is the case, then it is very important for her to just focus on the senate races and not help BO!!!

  23. The Obama campaign is the most poorly-run Democratic presidential campaign since Walter Mondale’s in 1984. Here’s what’s so stunning:

    1) In an environment where he should be ahead by at least 12 points, Obama trails by 2. Unbelievable.

    2) The Obama campaign has no cohesive strategy to attack McCain. They are throwing everything they can think of at him (he’s old! he doesn’t understand the internet! he has lobbyists! his negative ads are too negative!), yet, ironically, they aren’t focusing on his biggest weaknesses. They’re focusing on inside-baseball-type stuff that swing voters simply do not care about. Meanwhile, McCain is relentlessly on message, and, like the tortoise versus the hare, he’s overtaken Obama for the lead.

    3) Cable TV media is completely frazzled and lost. They now realize that all their PrObama coverage was turning off voters, who could see right through Olbermann’s, Matthews’, and Roland Martin & co.’s thinly-veiled propaganda. They’re gun-shy now.

  24. Hey All – a message from Texas4Hillary which I got yesterday:

    T4Hill is without electricity; damage in TX is terrible, and Gov is blocking media access to Galveston – no one will give press any death counts, no filming in the regions of devastation…

    Thanksfully, T4Hill is not in that area. Will be back online as soon as power is restored.

  25. I am so disgusted with NOW for endorsing the misogynist BO. How is this helpful for women? If they think, more women will return to the dimocratic party, they are sorely mistaken. How is it, that the so-called feminist organizations are endorsing someone like BO, instead of a stellar person like Senator Clinton? It bogles my mind. We do need different advocates for women’s rights. The present organizations have sold women down the river, and into the sea.

  26. ctv: wouldn’t filming the devastation help with funding for rescue and cleanup operations? how the oil refineries?

  27. birdgal – on some level yes, but i believe this is being politicized…with bush admin behind some of the decisions. have to head out to work.

  28. Hi Berkeley Vox.

    What makes you say this?

    3) Cable TV media is completely frazzled and lost. They now realize that all their PrObama coverage was turning off voters, who could see right through Olbermann’s, Matthews’, and Roland Martin & co.’s thinly-veiled propaganda. They’re gun-shy now.

    The few times I tune into cable it seems like they’re still doing the same old rah-rah BO coverage as before.

  29. I was talking to a college friend a little while ago from IN. He is a lifelong republican who voted for Obama in the primary figuring he would be easier to beat than Hillary in November. Truer words were never spoken.

  30. Obama’s problem is that he is spending money as fast as he takes it in. He is probably outspending McCain by 2 or 3 to 1 and look what it is getting him a downward spiral in the polls. People are sick of seeing his ads nonstop at every commerical break. All he is doing is reminding voters that they really do not know him or what he is really about.

  31. Looks like McCain’s postconvention momentum may have stalled. We’ll see if the GOP starts bringing out some of the oppo stuff it has on BO. If not, then their internal polls must be better than the national ones.

  32. This is funny! A poster on NQ re all the “you are a racist if you don’t vote BO” crap:

    It’s not the pigmentation, It’s the pig-mentality

    LMAO!

  33. I am so disgusted with NOW for endorsing the misogynist BO. How is this helpful for women? If they think, more women will return to the dimocratic party, they are sorely mistaken. How is it, that the so-called feminist organizations are endorsing someone like BO, instead of a stellar person like Senator Clinton? It bogles my mind. We do need different advocates for women’s rights. The present organizations have sold women down the river, and into the sea.
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    Their commitment to principle is a highly conditional one. More important however if Palin and McCain win it undermines their raison d etre, because it expands the definition of feminism beyond their victim based careerist model to a more expanisive one. That is what they are scared of. They do not want feminism defined by Amelia Erhart types believe me. Those people do it on their own, and there is no co-dependency/

  34. As much as I dislike Obama, even I was upset to find that he wasn’t top of his class at Harvard Law and he just schmoozed and hustled his way onto Law Review. There goes the last shred of any racial pride he inspired in me.

    I have much more racial pride in Charles Rangel — Purple Heart, Bronze Star for Valor, and a commanding superstar in Congress. I hope he holds onto the Chair.

  35. Not just owing money, but rest of his campaign is going to be one big smearfest against McCain and Palin. He won’t go down easily.

    So much for a campaign of hope.

  36. Looks like McCain’s postconvention momentum may have stalled. We’ll see if the GOP starts bringing out some of the oppo stuff it has on BO. If not, then their internal polls must be better than the national ones.
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    It was bound to happen. The next move is critical. If it were me I would look at the total cost of bo programs and compare it to the state of the economy and draw the inevitable conclusion. And then I would start letting the genies out of the various bottles/

  37. I have much more racial pride in Charles Rangel — Purple Heart, Bronze Star for Valor, and a commanding superstar in Congress. I hope he holds onto the Chair
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    Agreed/

  38. wbboei, It is a critical point. He got a lot of mileage out of the Palin pick, and now it’s time to adjust strategy. The sudden focus on the economy is clearly welcome to BO. McCain can’t cede that at all.

  39. McCain is not ceding the economy, if you him today, you’d see that.

    Besides McCain can really hit Obama, Obama’s main economic advisers are all connected to Lehman, countrywide, fannie and freddie and Biden is in the pocket of MBNA.

    I’d hit every one of their asses.

  40. when is rezko’s sentencing?
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    October 21 last I heard. Now there is a real life example of the negotiation problem called the prisoners dilemma. The way it works is you have two co-conspirator in the hoosegow, separate cells. Prosector offers each one a reduced sentence if he confesses first and implicates the other one. The prisoners cannot communicate with eachother. So the probem for each is if I can count on my co-conspirator to keep his mouth shut we both go free. But if he talks then we are both screwed, in which case I need to talk first. Polling data in late October may be of some interest to whoever Rezkos legal advisor is at this point.

  41. I’m glad that I belonged to the National Organization for Women so that I could cancel my membership. They just endorsed Barack Obama for president; it’s publicized in an NPR link/headline on RealClearPolitics.com.

    First Gloria Steinem’s condescending op-ed against Sarah Palin and for Obama, now this. It’s just like NARAL. These people disgust me. If you belong to NOW, watch what they’ve been up to lately!

  42. Canaan Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    As much as I dislike Obama, even I was upset to find that he wasn’t top of his class at Harvard Law and he just schmoozed and hustled his way onto Law Review. There goes the last shred of any racial pride he inspired in me.

    * * * * *
    How do you know, Canaan? I thought they refused to release any transcripts or applications to Columbia or Harvard.

  43. Great post on riverdaughter about “The 30% Solution”, and why getting women into office has been shown to help women across the board:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/the-30-percent-solution-why-democratic-women-are-voting-for-mccainpalin/#comment-145861

  44. caanan,

    I have a soft spot for Charlie, too. Ok, he made a couple of mistakes but I have always felt
    that at least he cared about his constituency.

    Guess the Obots are out for revenge though I don’t understand why. He did broker HRC the deal with
    HRC suspending her campaign.

  45. hi basil9.

    Just a general hunch/observation of mine — CNN was (and still is) unabashedly prObama but lately the CNN talking heads (well, at least Anderson Cooper) are trying to give a little more coverage to McCain. The Republicans actually LOVE the fact that the media is so biased against them (they bragged about it during their convention) because they know voters see through it, and the backlash helps them in the long run. MSNBC ditched Olbermann and Matthews in favor of David Gregory I believe, so as to try and appear a little more professional, but you can tell they’re spooked. You KNOW it’s bad when a network has to make mid-election-cycle adjustments to its lineup based on charges of biased reporting.

  46. mp: I get conflicting reports about this. I know he wanted her to concede, said they did not have the votes, and other members of delegation were threatened. The question I have been unable to determine is whether he was giving Hillary accurate advice, or merely responding to some personal threat which the Obama forces were making against him. If the latter then it is surprising this came out. The thing that prevents me from jumping to any firm conclusion here is the fact that he was a mentor. However, I do take his failure to stick around the convention and appear at her suspension speech as a bad sign. My sense is there is more to it that I do not know, and I know bluedem is convinced that he sold Hillary out. Can you or anyone else give me something concrete, or is it merely the fact that he had no stomach to continue the fight because he did not think they would win.

  47. These groups are threatened; they feel that if Palin was to reaaly speak
    for some on some family issues as well special needs children, they (groups) will become useless…

  48. Henry,

    I Googled “in the tank” and found this link regarding the derivation of “in the tank.” Apparently, it’s boxing lingo:

    w w w.juliansanchez.com/2008/02/28/in-the-tank/

  49. wbb:

    sorry I have no facts on rangel and how he stopped backing HRC…

    when I said he let us down…I mean if did not report his taxes accurately then he did let us down…
    but I am sure he was a great congressperson for his district..

  50. Sorry, Birdgal,

    I was so anxious to tell everyone about NOW’s betrayal that I didn’t read admin’s latest post or your comment.

    The rest of my comment stands: “I’m glad that I belonged to NOW so that I could cancel my membership.” I had the pleasure of saying it was because of their endorsement of Barack Obama on the phone and by email, to make sure that they get the message. What a waste of money joining NOW. Those people are so off message it’s sickening. Just like Froma Harrop, they turned creepy on us.

  51. Hmmrmmm…..
    Just as BO wanted a surge failure in IraQ, he wanted a huge Wall Street collapse as well.

    ‘On Monday’s “Anderson Cooper 360,” after CNN senior political analyst David Gergen said “what happened over the weekend with the economy and the bottom falling out of the financial markets…is the opportunity for Obama to seize the momentum back on his side,” Crowley actually said, “[J]ust as foreclosures were showing up on B-17, or in the real estate section, along comes this horrific headline out of Wall Street…I mean, this is what they wanted.”

  52. RealClearPolitics.com is good today. I can’t think of a single article on there today that I didn’t enjoy, especially the first two or so. We took down Keith Olbermann on MSNBC a peg or two. Let’s go after Charlie Gibson next and celebrate our successes!!

  53. can someone please tell me ….

    when have the democrats ever put forward a candidate like this for president? I’m old enough to go back a while in history but seriously I just don’t see it.
    WTF happened??

    To tell you the truth BHO probably never would get my vote even if Hillary had not been in the race. In the primary it would have been someone else, and I’d probably vote independent in the GE.

    I hope the supers are now happy they are getting all that support from BHO. They deserve every ounce of rejection they get.

  54. Is anyone in the media pushing Obama’s Iraq gaffe? Shouldn’t that be front and center still?

    Does it appear to anyone that Obama has broken law after law and been involved in scandal after scandal, and each just goes by the wayside? Is he the teflon man or something?

  55. Full transcript of the Crowley comments.

    media.newsbusters.org/stories/cnns-crowley-obama-team-wanted-horrific-wall-street-headlines

  56. admin,

    Excellent post! It’s divine justice if Obama is stingy with Dimocrats who helped him steal the nomination. He got lots of help along the way to get where he is, a one-term junior senator who was in the Senate a whole 143 days before he started running for president, but he’s not going to help anyone else.

    Combine that with his scorched-earth policy with Hillary and you’ve got a Dimocrat who should be and could be dead political meat if he loses the election in November. Looks like he will lose, too. Will only stupid Iowa go for him in November of the critical states?

  57. 😳

    add ht t p double slash colon and 3 w’s upfront and ht ml at the end.

    Jan,

    The media didn’t cover the iraq story 3 months ago when BO first made those comments so
    why would they cover it now?

  58. from the transcript:

    COOPER: Candy, no doubt — very quickly — on the campaign trail, it obviously played a big role today. You anticipate, in the days ahead, issue number one, it’s going to be front and center?

    CANDY CROWLEY, CNN: Oh, absolutely.

    I mean, listen, just as foreclosures were showing up on B-17, or in the real estate section, along comes this horrific headline out of Wall Street.

    COOPER: Right.

    CROWLEY: I mean, this is what they wanted. They believe, of course, that the economy is one of their strengths and that they can paint John McCain as George Bush.

    Isn’t that nice? The nation’s banking system is collapsing, and members of CNN are not only discussing how it helps Obama, but are admitting that this is what his campaign wanted.

    How disgraceful.

  59. mp Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    wbb:

    sorry I have no facts on rangel and how he stopped backing HRC…
    ——————————————
    Thanks mp. I will keep digging. If I come up with something definitive I will post it here. Either way I think he feels terrible. Like he let down a friend.

  60. has anybody put sens. dodd and kent conrad for having ties with mortgage companies.
    they both are chairmen of major committees.
    different rule for rangel and dodd/kent!!!

  61. That felt good. I just called NOW at 202-628-8669 and cancelled my membership.

    I told the woman that it was due to this endorsement of Barack Obama, after the sexist campaign he ran. I told her that if there was any year when NOW should have at least sat this one out, it was this year. To endorse the candidate who stirred up misogyny in order to knock out Hillary Clinton was a slap in the face to ALL women.

    I also relayed to her my complete disgust and anger at the parade of Democratic “feminists” across my TV screen, and their attitude toward Sarah Palin. I told her that their statements and behavior were as bad if not worse than the crap I’ve heard coming from the mouth of any man on the religious right.

    I told her, “You know, I have a sister who is an evangelical, and pro-life. She is a strong woman, who has faced many of the same struggles and hurdles in life and the workplace that all women face. I had previously been under the impression that NOW was supportive of ALL women, not just me as a pro-choice, liberal woman. Now I have discovered that NOW has no interest in supporting women such as my sister. Well, if NOW can’t support my sister, then they can’t represent me. Cancel my membership, and take me off your mailing lists. “

  62. Isn’t that nice? The nation’s banking system is collapsing, and members of CNN are not only discussing how it helps Obama, but are admitting that this is what his campaign wanted.

    How disgraceful.
    ——————————————-
    Yes, but this needs to be nipped in the bud. Anyone who knows Obamas Chicago history will know what to say. We dont need to spell it out here, do we?

  63. From No Quarter — Obama’s biggest $$$ backers are Wall Street firms…

    ——
    There isn’t a person left in America who hasn’t heard Barack Obama’s repetitious spell-chants and stump speech frequently. Ad nauseum comes to mind. I just heard him today, limply attempting to explain himself in Pennsyvlania, and once again he declared how he doesn’t take money from lobbyists and PACs. More ad nauseum.

    I am here to tell you that the next time Jesus Obama tells you that his money comes from the little ole you, that this is a baldfaced lie. I won’t even get into the $250,000 he has gotten from the indicted Rezko, some of which he didn’t even disclose.

    Let’s take a look at Jesus Obama’s top contributors. Incidentally, Obama has 8.2% of his contributions noted as “undisclosed”.

    Goldman Sachs $474,428
    Ubs Ag $298,180
    JP Morgan Chase & Co $282,387
    Lehman Brothers $274,147
    National Amusements Inc $265,750
    Sidley Austin LLP $251,657
    Citigroup Inc $247,436
    University of California $239,944
    Skadden, Arps et al $228,520
    Exelon Corp $226,661
    Harvard University $225,891
    Jones Day $213,825
    Google Inc $192,808
    Time Warner $190,091
    Morgan Stanley $190,026
    Citadel Investment Group $173,950
    Kirkland & Ellis $163,126
    Latham & Watkins $160,842
    WilmerHale LLP $155,788
    Jenner & Block $151,447

    First, we should probably congratulate JP Morgan for buying up Bear Stearns for pennies on the dollar shouldn’t we? You know who Bear Stearns and JP Morgan are, don’t you? Investors and bankers. Bankers that ripped off people with sub prime loans. The Federal Reserve bailed out Bear Stearns with our tax money whilst doing nothing for the 900,000 people about to lose their homes. Nice folks, huh?.

    Let’s talk Citibank. These nice folks hold credit card debt and mortgages too. They are more of the nice people who can charge 35%+* interest to you if you miss a payment. Then there’s Wall Street’s Goldman Sachs. The CEO said just a few weeks ago that the economy is “just fine”. Well sure it is. It’s just find for him! Then there is the other money changer Lehman Brothers. These are all Barack Obama’s contributors folks. They are Barack Obama’s friends, not you.

    *Considering this list, no wonder The Messiah voted “No” to a credit interest rate freeze at 30%. He “said” it was because the rate was “too high”. Apparently, Mr. Obama thinks The Sky’s the Limit is way better than even a 30% limit.

    Oh and let us not forget Exelon. You know, “Nuclear power, Exelon?”.Just Google “Exelon and Obama” and find out how Jesus Obama rigged up and then watered down the bill that now makes it only “voluntary” for Exelon to report any further radiation leaks to the constituent community they have already harmed enough. You see, the citizens were outraged and wanted a Law. Barack gave them a law all right. Right up their noses. Ah, Mr. Barack Obama, he is the Messiah for Exelon. That’s why he personally doesn’t live anywhere near Exelon’s next radiation leak. Exelon is Barack Obama’s friend too.

    Barack Obama has LOTs of friends he doen’t want to talk about doesn’t he? Yes He Can!

  64. Polls close in Massachusetts at 7:00 tonight. Puleeze, pray for O’Reilly to bump Kerry.

    Vibes feel very good is all I can report from where I am. I am deep inside an Obama county. Most common remarks I’m hearing about Kerry: “He forgot who he’s supposed to be working for.” And “never had to work a day in his life – what does he know about us?” About O’Reilly they say, “He’s a good man. He’s one of us. He’s smart – he can handle himself around those snobs in the Senate.” Not many I talk to know about Big Pink reasons for wanting Kerry out. They’re thinking about what’s good for Massachusetts, not about the party.

  65. Excerpt: NY Post (which might be making a play against NYT whose credibility is tanking):

    LADIES’ MAN MAC IS A PLAYER IN NY
    nypost.com/seven/09152008/news/columnists/ladies_man_mac_is_a_player_in_ny_129211.htm

    Republican John McCain has experienced a surge of support among women in heavily Democratic New York state – where he has closed the gap with Barack Obama, new private polls show.

    The internal Republican and Democratic polls, details of which were provided to The Post, have stunned members of both parties – and produced deep worries among Democrats.

    POLL: McCain Picks Up 5 Points in NY

    One great concern for Democrats is that the data show a continuous movement toward the McCain-Palin ticket by women, a majority of whom traditionally favor Democrats.

    The movement by women toward McCain is being credited to Democratic attacks on Alaska Gov. Palin, last week’s “lipstick on a pig” crack by Obama and to the continuing unhappiness by female Democrats over Obama’s failure to pick Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

    “If it winds up being tight in New York, that means McCain wins the election nationally,” said a prominent Democrat familiar with some of the polling data.

    A prominent Republican familiar with the results said, “It really is something, because we just assumed Obama would carry such a heavily Democratic state like New York with no difficulty.”

    The private polls have consistently shown the Obama-Biden ticket still leading but with less than 50 percent of the vote in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by over 2.3 million voters.

  66. JanH, NOW did not have to give up their pro-choice agenda to handle this correctly. How mindblowing would it have been for them to issue a statement something like the following:

    “We here at NOW face a difficult dilemma this historic election year. We find ourselves unable to endorse the Republican ticket, because there are simply too many sharp disagreements on issues of reproductive freedom. However, due to the historic and game-changing nature of Governor Sarah Palin’s run, we find that we cannot in good conscience endorse her opponent, either.

    Women across the country are applauding the fact that a strong, accomplished woman is competing on a national presidential ticket for the first time in 24 years. Her position as VP on a national ticket is a history-making and empowering event for all American women. American women will have to make their own choices in this election, and they may be difficult ones. We do not take our reproductive freedoms lightly. But regardless of our differing stands on that issue, we would be remiss not to hail Governor Palin’s achievement.”

    There. How hard would that be to do?

    Governor Palin does not have our endorsement, but she does have our respect.

  67. Hillary 4 texas: “Governor Palin does not have our endorsement, but she does have our respect.”

    That statement is the true hallmark of what real feminism is all about. Senator Clinton gets it, as evidenced by her statements.

  68. Hillary4Texas – that’s basically what Hillary said.

    NOW are idiots for backing a sexist, misogynistic hypocritical Dimocrats. They should follow Hillary’s lead, and hail the achievement of Palin, rebuke the sexism in the media, and focus on issues.

  69. NOW is so way yesterday! They keep sending me invitations to come back and I keep sending them this reply: “Where were you when Hillary needed you? That’s where I am when you need me.”

  70. birdgal – wonder if republicans are funding this Siena Poll, only because no other public poll may go to blue states and check the temperature.

    I would also like to see what’s going on with CA. Because if NY and CA can dominate headlines as light blue, then Bambi will look like toast to everyone.

  71. janh: The Media,the politicians are all afraid to vett or criticize him for fear of being delt a big race card and threatened wis retaliation.He is both black and white and he and his mentors and his church advisers long ago figured out how to get into the White House without revealing a single bit of information about his choice of friends,bankrollers and foreign advisers with an agenda for America as we are currently being driven to.He is not made of Teflon he is covered with slime and he thinks that the DNC,RNC and MSM will not lay a glove on him.Only time will tell what will happen.Most people do not care and donot want to get involved with this dangerous and loopy power crazed short arm.
    Watched and listened to Hillary on GMA this am.God how I miss her wisdom and her love for country and all of its people.It was frustrating to realize that no one but BO and MO really knows which country he is from and is he a legal citizen of this country?

    By ABM 90

  72. I can understand the position of NARAL and Planned Parenthood against the republicans as their primary issue is abortion rights, but I do not understand the position of NOW. NOW, has long advocated women’s rights in a more broader scope. I think there is way too much hopium going around.

    Tammy Bruce, former president of LA, NOW (see bio and website here) tammybruce.com/biography.php
    is what I call a true feminist who has not forgotten the main issues of women as a whole. I don’t agree with all of her positions but I respect her for not towing the line as a democrat. She is what women should be, independent thinkers. She is not praising of the Clintons but I noted in recent interviews with her that she did admire Hillary.

  73. CountTheVotes Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    birdgal – wonder if republicans are funding this Siena Poll, only because no other public poll may go to blue states and check the temperature.

    I would also like to see what’s going on with CA. Because if NY and CA can dominate headlines as light blue, then Bambi will look like toast to everyone.

    ————————————————————————————————————-

    I keep bringing up CA, because prop 8 is on the ballot, and I am concerned that with the conservative base being energized, it may pass. I would hate to see that happen.

  74. I’m loving it…the con artist is not going any where….All the polls stating that this car salesman is going down big time…

    The Americans are not that stupid…..HRC 2012

  75. birdgirl, me too, but I am voting no on 8 and yes to McCain /Palin…it’s possible that we will see 8 going down, but I never take anything for granted. the ad war hasn’t gotten started yet so we will see how the republicans spin it. I suspect BHO will take CA partly because a lot of people are not happy with Arnie. The unions in this state are very powerful, however, there is a lot of division in the lower ranks because many wanted Hillary. The independents and decline to state are the ones that will decide this election in CA and they are listed at about 20% or so. McCain will win easily in the red counties but I doubt he’ll pull it off statewide. Lots of progressives in this state.
    just my humble opinion.

  76. When was that RCP poll taken? The last one that I saw was done in August.

    Debbie, I tend to agree, but Carby has been saying the opposite for months. McCain has been opening offices throughout the state. Most of them are in So. CA. The number seems to be up from last week.

  77. I just don’t get it! How does Obama keep getting prominent people or groups to come forward and endorse him whenever he is in deep trouble? Very troubling to see how many women come out in his defense and against Palin.

    I am also surprised to see that Kirsten lady (Obama supporter) actually gives respect for Sarah Palin’s achievement although she doesn’t endorse her on issues. Anyone noticed that?

  78. In Obama’s defense, Democrats note that the nominee’s long primary fight with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York cut in to the time Obama otherwise would have had to mount a general election campaign. And, they say, he’s so popular among Democrats that his campaign has been overwhelmed with more requests for appearances than it can possibly grant.
    ———————————————
    THIS IS THE LOGIC OF THOSE WHO WOULD DISENFRANCHISE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO STOP THE PRIMARY BEFORE 10 STATES AND 5.2 MILLION AMERICANS HAD VOTED. THE TRUTH IS EVEN NOW HE CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL AND THE REASON HE CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL IS BECAUSE HE CANNOT CONNECT AND THE REASON HE CANNOT CONNECT IS BECAUSE HE HAS NOT EMPATHY WITH ORDINARY PEOPLE BUT IS PART OF THE ELITIST MOB THAT WANTS TO RUN THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD AND IT JUST AINT POSSIBLE.

  79. mp Says:
    I have changed my mind big time about drilling…I want more drilling at home ASAP!!!!
    ============

    I saw some very revealing info about the drilling issue, and why Palin made the oil companies in Alaska increase drilling on the land they already control. Iirc it said there is more oil available in the oilfields they already controll, than in the offshore oilfields they want. The reason they don’t want to drill here is that their stock market prices go up when they have more oil under the ground, so they want to control more area, ie the offshore areas. They don’t necessarily want to DRILL it, just show it in their financial statements.

    Part of what she did in Alaska was pass laws for “drill it or lose it” so they can’t just collect oilfields and sit on them.

    I dont’ remember the url, might have been the great USA Today article “Palin governed from the center.”

    What i’m seeing is the oil companies right in the middle of the firnancial troubles. Not just riaisng the price of oil, but pulling strings in the stock market too. I wonder if the CHeney crowd has switched to Obama as easier to control….

    In which case McCain/Paln is what we need! Palin beat them in Alaska….

  80. ON some issues, Palin seems pretty close to Democratic posisiont, or even vurther left. She want to tax the oil compaines harder than Obama does.

  81. “he’s so popular among Democrats that his campaign has been overwhelmed with more requests for appearances than it can possibly grant.”

    I think I’m going to be sick! 😉

  82. Turndown: I read that USA article too, and the title was “Palin governed from the center.” It was good. She said “screw you” to the oil companies because they were sitting on oil leases, not drilling, and making more money. What manipulation! So, she went to other companies. Good for her. Amazing, how the press has a double standard.

    As far as BO and the Cheney crowd, he did vote for the Cheney energy bill. Just sayin’…

  83. at work so can’t watch fox – but heard Palin at a rally now, talking about the economy and doing a better job than BO.

  84. Also, Turndown, I read a blurb, that if the oil companies USED the leases, they ALREADY have, they could be more oil. Apparently, they make money on reserves, so it is a deterent to drilling. I guess, just like OPEC can drive up prices by restricting the amount that they pump. Crafty devils.

  85. Do it right before the last debate. Based on his debates with Hillary he will already be a stuttering mess to begin wiht. dropping the bomb a few days before the debate he will have a complete meltdown live on national TV.

  86. Its obvious that Obama and the MSM is desperately worried about McCain and Palin with all the muck and slander being thrown. He did the same with Hillary and guess what it only made her stronger.

  87. mariaconz Says:
    RealClearPolitics.com is good today. I can’t think of a single article on there today that I didn’t enjoy, especially the first two or so.

    =========================

    Maria, if you know how to find urls for good articles at RCP, I wish you would post some at PumaResponders. When I follow a link someone has posted, the article always sems to have moved.

  88. I just received one of those mass emailings from Bill Clinton saying that he and Hillary are going to do all they can to help get BO elected. It also asked for money.

    Today in the mail, I also got a request for money from Nancy Pelosi.

    BO must really need money…BAD!

  89. The mantra from the msm today seems to be Palins star is fading, They really are a lot of fuckwits, they never ever treated Obama this way, the bias is so obvious its disgusting now.

    Hit the bastard with everything thats coming to him.

  90. “he’s so popular among Democrats that his campaign has been overwhelmed with more requests for appearances than it can possibly grant.”
    —————————————–
    where do they get this mawkish drivel? he is popular with the elites who figure he is someone they can control, and with delusionals who do not know how to evaluate a job applicant/

  91. Yeah really her star is fading when she’s pulling in 23000 crowds and going coast to coast, the public doesnt seem to think so.

  92. I received an e-mail from Bill Clinton asking to donate. I told him Sorry Bill no can do. After the way Hillary was treated and you, i will never donate. I told him i can’t understand why you and Hillary are campaigning for this fake. I told him Obama spent so much money on the TEMPLE OF DOOM, he should have save the money.

    I also told him since O is the great one, he shouldn’t have to beg for money.

    I then wrote

    PS, i will be voting for McCain
    Don’t bother me anymore.

  93. I received an e-mail from Bill Clinton asking to donate. I told him Sorry Bill no can do. After the way Hillary was treated and you, i will never donate. I told him i can’t understand why you and Hillary are campaigning for this fake. I told him Obama spent so much money on the TEMPLE OF DOOM, he should have save the money.

    I also told him since O is the great one, he shouldn’t have to beg for money.

    I then wrote

    PS, i will be voting for McCain
    Don’t bother me anymore.

  94. Given their big drop in ratings, you would think the media would have learned the first time. Oh well, keep on with the good work CNN and MSNBC, etc… with any luck your ratings will be down to a big fat zero by the end of this election season.

  95. wbboei Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Isn’t that nice? The nation’s banking system is collapsing, and members of CNN are not only discussing how it helps Obama, but are admitting that this is what his campaign wanted.

    How disgraceful.
    ——————————————-
    Yes, but this needs to be nipped in the bud. Anyone who knows Obamas Chicago history will know what to say. We dont need to spell it out here, do we?

    ============

    Yes, as I have no idea what you’re talking about. Or at least by email. 🙂

  96. I’m amazed at how low this lot are going, its like every piece on the planet is working for Obama, really i’m beginning to think the guy is the devil.

  97. McCain and Palin really need to get out there and do a joint press conference and call the msm and Obama out on every piece of their bullshit from the last few days.

    I’d nail their asses to the wall. I’d have tremendous respect for him is he tore them all a new asshole.

  98. MINI-PROWL REQUEST:

    Tell NOW they should be defending Hillary and Palin instead of endorsing Obama!

    Call NOW at 202-628-8669 Got a live operator just now by pressing Zero.

  99. What is everyone’s opinion of O’Reilly on Fox News?

    I keep getting the smarmy impression that he is pro-Obama. Anyone else?

  100. I don’t know what O’reilly is up to, is he lulling Obama into a safe sense of security. He really nailed him months ago on ayers and Wright but he went soft recently.

    We’ll see but he’s in danger of losing his entire ratings if he keeps this shit up.

  101. JanH Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
    What is everyone’s opinion of O’Reilly on Fox News?

    I keep getting the smarmy impression that he is pro-Obama. Anyone else?

    ==========
    Yes, I had that impression during his interview with BO. What’s his angle – ratings? Et tu, Bill-O?

  102. A “gloat quote” from the just ended BBC Nightly News:

    “…and we have just learned that George Soros owns outright 9.5 million shares of Lehman.”

    Karma, baby, karma…just multiply this weekend’s loss in Lehman shares times 9,500,000.

  103. haha, Soros will just asset strip it like he does anything else, he’s one guy i’d just be happy if he just disappeared tomorrow. Would any of us cry……..no!

  104. September 16th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
    moononpluto Says:

    “haha, Soros will just asset strip it like he does anything else…”
    * * * * *
    Moon, “Asset Strip?”

  105. pissing myself laughing though, i wonder how much Soros will lose.

    hahahah, maybe he needs his money back from Bambi, thats why bambi’s asking for donations.

  106. # birdgal Says:
    September 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
    Turndown: I read that USA article too, and the title was “Palin governed from the center.” It was good. She said “screw you” to the oil companies because they were sitting on oil leases, not drilling, and making more money. What manipulation! So, she went to other companies. Good for her. Amazing, how the press has a double standard.
    As far as BO and the Cheney crowd, he did vote for the Cheney energy bill. Just sayin’…
    **************
    That is why the push to open more off shore drilling is an oil company scam. The value of oil company stock is based more on “reserves” than on what they have developed or oil that they are producing. They are currently sitting on at least 89 billion barrels of off shore reserves that haven’t been developed. The areas that they want opened have an estimated 18 billion barrels but new, undeveloped reserves boost stock prices. And of course oil co execs have huge amounts of deferred compensation tried to stock price.

  107. moononpluto Says:
    September 16th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    lol Soros has lost about 120 million dollars in leahman, hilarious.
    **********
    For George, that pocket change. ~0.01% of his estimated net worth.

  108. neetabug Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
    Sorry for the double post i was so mad i hit the submit button twice
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    (just kiddin’, Neeta.)

  109. Just like during the primaries, undecided voters are moving away from Obama. We suspect that most of these undecideds have made up their minds but they don’t want to be labeled “racists” so they instead say they are undecided.

    The PPP poll from Ohio shows how undecideds are almost entirely moving to McCain :

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Ohio_9161.pdf

    White voters and independents are moving strongly in John McCain’s direction in Ohio, allowing him to open up a 48-44 lead in the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.

    McCain and Obama had been tied in last month’s Ohio poll. White voters who had been undecided are breaking strongly for McCain. Where he had an 11 point lead with them last month, it is now 18. The Republican nominee has also greatly improved his standing among independent voters. He has an eight point lead with them now after Obama had a 17 point advantage with them in the August poll.

    “There is a troubling trend for Barack Obama of undecided white voters in many of the swing states moving into John McCain’s camp,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “He’s going to be in trouble if he can’t get that turning back in the other direction.”

    One factor that may be helping McCain to move up in the polls is his selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate. 43% of those surveyed said her presence on ticket made them more likely to vote McCain, while just 30% said the same about Obama’s choice of Joe Biden.

    There’s a significant gender gap in the state’s results right now, with Obama leading by five points among women but trailing by 16 with men. Obama has an advantage with voters under 30, but John McCain leads each of the other age categories.

  110. O’Reilly is trying the Clinton model of killing-your-opponent-with-kindness: if you disagree with someone profoundly, first sprinkle some faint praise on them (Bill Clinton — “Obama is a gifted politician”) and then attack them on the substantive issues (true universal health care, etc.)

    Bill Clinton didn’t invent this tactic but he perfected it and made it his own, and now when anyone else tries it, like Bill O’Reilly for example, it always seems so amateurish to me, by comparison.

    I watch O’Reilly once in a while simply because it’s unintentionally hilarious.

  111. Just got back from voting. Nobody turning out. I told the ladies handing out ballots that this is one vote I’ve been waiting months to cast.

    Voted againt Kerry in the Senate primary.

    Congressman Iierney (who never endorsed Clinton) was running upopposed, so I wrote in “Hillary Clinton” on that one.

    Throw the bums out.

  112. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_chides_Obama_for_Streisand_fundraiser.html

    John McCain used an appearance before a blue-collar crowd near Youngstown, Ohio, to take a class-tinged shot at Barack Obama tonight.

    “He says he’s siding with the people just before he flew off for a fundraiser in Hollywood with Barbra Streisand,” McCain said of his rival. “Let me tell you my friends, there’s no place I’d rather be than right here with the working men and women of Ohio.”

    McCain used the line as his close at an airport hangar rally, drawing loud applause

  113. neetabug, today’s email from Bill Clinton was to raise money on Hillary’s behalf, and to help her retire her debt, I believe:

    Dear [Democrats],

    If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.

    If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!

    That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.

    Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.

    Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.

    After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.

    It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.

    Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!

    If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!

    This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.

    Thank you for everything,

    Bill Clinton

  114. For me, there is a very fine line between supporting McCain/Palin, and rejecting the democrats in this election.
    The principles that the democrats have held for years is a compeling reason to reject the republicans. The issues I have with the democratic party are not with it’s core principles but of its leadership. I have chosen to reject the leadership and not the party. This time!

    The republican platform (here: http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/) should scare anyone that believes we are all created equal. I believe that laws apply to all of us equally as well as opportunities. The values I hold dear are not conditional and not for sale.

    I say to the republicans, you will never get my heart as long as you remain discriminatory to any part of our society. Do not think for one minute, that I don’t remember who you are or what you have done. My vote for McCain/Palin is not an endorsement of your bigotry but a message to my own party.
    Celebrate victory with caution.

  115. Press release:

    KATIE COURIC TO INTERVIEW SARAH PALIN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
    Tue Sep 16 2008 17:18:48 ET

    Katie Couric will spend two days traveling on the campaign trail with Governor Sarah Palin on Sunday, September 28 and Monday, September 29, conducting an exclusive interview to be broadcast on the CBS EVENING NEWS WITH KATIE COURIC beginning Monday (29). Coverage will continue on Tuesday, September 30 on THE EARLY SHOW and CBSNews.com. Coverage of Couric’s travels and interview with the Republican Vice Presidential nominee will include behind-the-scenes access and Palin with Senator McCain as they campaign in battleground states.

    The interview will take place just days before the Vice Presidential debate between Palin and Senator Joe Biden in St. Louis on Thursday, October 2. Portions of the interview and extended coverage of the trip will be available across all CBS News platforms, including CBSNews.com and CBS Radio News.

  116. Neetabug and others,

    I got the letter from BC, too.

    I unsubscribed to the site.

    A part of me feels ‘ripped’off’ by HRC for having thrown in the towel. She got a thousand bucks from me, money I couldn’t afford to send. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for the obstacle course she endured but I wouldn’t feel secretly gyped if she had continued the battle as she vpromised us she would.

  117. Dear President Clinton:

    After watching the Democratic nominee and his goons call you and Senator Clinton racists and after watching the lack of response from any Democratic poobahs to the media sexism and after watching the DNC disenfranchise states like a third world bananna republic, I have reached the conclusion that the Democratic Party no longer represents my views or ideals.

    I am voting for John McCain and the first female Vice President of the United States in November. I look forward to supporting Senator Clinton should she decide to run again in 2012. I will also support any Democratic superdelegates who endorsed her this year. I will vote against superdelegates who did not, including Senator Kerry and Congressman Tierney in Massachussetts today. My hope is that, someday in the future, the Democratic Party will become responsive to the wishes of its constituents.

  118. basil: I understand your feelings, but how many dimocratic politicians do you see going against the flow? It would be political suicide for Hillary to do that. She is doing great work for people, with her work in the Senate and campaigning for down ticket dems. she is doing what she has to do.

  119. basil,

    Suspending her campaign in June meant she could stop spending money on campaigning and save money and energy for another year.

    I don’t like her supporting BO now, but that’s a different issue. She’s being very careful what she says about Palin, and she and Bill are being pretty careful about BO, so she may still be doing the best she can in a wierd situation.

    I’m sure not giving them any more money though!

  120. As much as I heart Hillary and Bill, no way should they be propping up Obama after he reneged in helping her with her debt.

  121. turned down and birdgal,
    Sorry. i was just venting.
    On another note, appeals to white guilt are surging again.
    From Wapo on 9/12;

    I anticipate that most black Americans will believe that an Obama defeat will have stemmed in substantial part from a prejudice that robbed 40 million Americans of the chance to become president on the day they were born black. They will of course understand that race wasn’t the only significant variable — that party affiliation, ideological proclivities, strategic choices and dumb luck also mattered. But deep in their bones, they will believe — and probably rightly — that race was a key element, that had the racial shoe been on the other foot — had John McCain been black and Obama white — the result would have been different.
    ———–
    The rest is even worse. It’s at NQ for those who want to read more.

  122. basil: That makes me sick. Why not insert the word “woman.” I hate all this race baiting.

    BTW, I did receive the request from Bill. It says, “Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.” So, I assume the money is going to pay off her debt?

  123. Lmao! Obama was at a speech talking about the economy, and all the stuff the HE did in the senate…blah blah blah…

    John McCain at his speech said: “Well, that is news to us that actually sponsored the bill. And Barack Obama didn’t even show up to vote that day.”

  124. from NoQuarter:

    “I’ve got to admit that I cracked a big smile upon reading Jonathan Martin’s Politico report Monday that Bill Clinton has invited John McCain to give opening remarks live at his Clinton Global Initiative annual meeting later this month. Barack Obama is also invited but, on the other hand, is relegated to speaking to a plenay session via satellite!

    Just what is the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI)? Established in 2005, CGI bills itself as “a non-partisan catalyst for action that brings together a community of global leaders from various backgrounds to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges.” (Visit their Web site to read more about what they are doing and their accomplishments.)

    The 2008 annual meeting in New York City anticipates hosting “more than 130 leading CEOs and over 50 current and former heads of state.” No mention of either George Bush 41 or 43.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/

  125. basil,

    🙁 I know the feeling. I just got the email ‘from Bill Clinton’ and answered it along your lines. 🙂

    Maybe what I’m getting at is, as someone else said a while back, I’m voting for the party that backed a reformer in Alaska and is now running her for VP and as ‘future of the GOP.’

  126. Obama

    Pro-Family

    Pro-Obama

    from NoQuarter

    new BO buttons. I guess this means McCain is anti-family? The guy that has 7 kids, including one from Bangladesh.

  127. Can anyone verify this? I saw this on a blog, but no source. Very cool if true!

    HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS???

    Both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin will participate in a protest on Monday of the presence of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadienjad, NBC News has learned.

    The two politicians will not appear together at the protest but will both participate, according to those close to the organizing of this protest. The event is being organized by a coalition of groups (mostly Jewish) upset by the presence of Ahmadienjad in New York at the opening of the U.N. General Assembly and the threat Iran presents to “global security.”

  128. If the money is going for Hillary, I have different feelings about it. She needs all the help she can get with the campaign debt. I’ll ask my sister to contribute. She hasn’t maxed out.

  129. Debbie — you bring up a dilemma we all face. Most of us support most Democratic principles. We overturned Congress in 2006 and with a very weakened president, what did these Dems do? Not much. Any hint of a filibuster and the Dems collapsed. Did they filibuster FISA or anything else?

    What good are principles if nobody adheres to them or if they feel free to undermine them at will? They became the ‘end justifies the means’ party. They didn’t end the Iraqi war because they wanted the issue and then they subverted Hillary because they thought Obama was a better anti-war candidate.
    When that didn’t work, they TOOK OUR VOTES AWAY.

    That is the point at which I think their behaviour is unforgivable. One vote deliberately uncounted or denied or transferred is the same as all the votes (and they were closer to the latter). What to do about it is difficult.

    Maybe we should go with the omelet strategy and break a lot of eggs. Or maybe we should be very selective. But somehow the message must be sent.
    I guess I would go with voting against a major miscreant and let the rest go on a pass. I would also peruse the Rep opponent very carefully. I don’t want Dems to delude themselves that if O loses, it’s because of his race or anything stupid like that.

    I’m not arguing against your decision. It may be the soundest one and it’s certainly defensible. I’m just so angry that I want to do more and I’m terrified that O will squeak in with all those pusillanimous Dems still there.

  130. OMG! Too funny. Look at the new posting at Riverdaughter. It is a picture, so you have to go to the site to look at it.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

  131. Or maybe we should be very selective. But somehow the message must be sent.
    =============

    blog.pumapac.org has a ‘PUMA slate’ of good guy Dems for every state’s ballot. They’ve got it balanced to punisih the bad guys without losing a Dem majority overall.

    Imo the message is just as strong whether we hit ALL those who failed to support Hillary, or just the worst ones. It’s not how many Dems we vote against, but how many of US PUMAs are voting against them.

  132. birdgal Says:
    September 16th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
    *******************
    this was left in the comments, under that picture:

    “Someone over at NQ came up with something really catching: “It’s not his pigmentation; it’s his pigmentality.”

  133. moon

    Lehman Bros last April 29th…$1317.29 yr high.

    Yesterday…$2.00

    Get out the calculator: $1315 x 9,500,000.

    NOW THAT’S KARMA. So what if he makes $.29…..Hahahahaha

  134. freckles

    I can not stand by the democratic party leadership, period. They took my party away from me. I stand by my decision to support McCain/Palin ,however, not the republican platform.

    This is where I draw the line in the sand. Can I wait 4 years for a democrat who is trustworthy and experienced?… you bet I can. One thing I suspect is McCain will not be exactly like Bush but will follow the party platform for the most part. Democrats need this lesson very badly if we are ever to save our party.

    I’ve fought along side many progressive organizations and it’s been hard to keep our head above water, but we found out we could. If what we fight for is worthy it will still be here in 4 years.

  135. Puzzled about Obama not wanting be described as anyone other than an AA.He does not his middle name used for obvious reasons.He is either half black or half white depending on where and when and the color of the cultists he is reading to from the prosthesis that he demands in his public BS sessions to spread the word that he is the chosen one.As achild I lived in a mixed ethnic district and blacks were always part of our social and eductional system.Mixed racial blacks were referred to as ” Mulattos” and it was not an insult but a fact of life and the ones that I knew were proud of their heritage and enjoyed our friendships. Obama cannot be trusted in any matter that he discusses or supports.Who are you Barack.? Where did you come from Barack?What do you believe in Barack?Where are all your friends that you claim are devoted advisers?What have you promised Rezko in return for funding your mission of evil to be the CIC or if you fail as I believe you will Will you replace Farrakand as the leader of the new black nation that you hope to create? He is suurrounded by bodyguards day and night around the clock? Is that the reason you requested 24/7 SS protection with taxpayer funds so that you can conduct your campaign of evil in safety? Some ego trip for a stranger in our midst with no credentials and up to nothing good for this country.What is the rush Obama? Are you hoping to succeed before the Hispanics become the majority of our population? Evidently you do not believe in fair competition and will do or say anything to promote your craving for unfettered Power.You truly are a fence post turtle.

    BY ABM90 Wait it out Hillary. Your time may be much closer than than we think. God bless you dear lady.

  136. http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-goes-on-economic-attack-its.html

    John McCain didn’t give Barack Obama Hell today, he just told the truth and it seemed like hell. Senator McCain must have gotten tired of those unfair commercials about being “out of touch” on the economy. Today, in Ohio he let Obama HAVE IT (see above). Its about time. The straight talk express should be talking like this from now through election day:

    “Now I believe America’s best days are ahead of us. Governor Palin and I are going to reform Wall Street. We’re going to reform Washington. I’m going to fight for you and I’m going to lead our nation forward in the greatest periods of prosperity in its history. And let’s have some straight talk. Senator Obama is not interested in the politics of hope, he’s interested in his political future and that’s why he’s hurling in insults and making up facts about his record.

    “Today, he claimed that the Congressional stimulus package was his idea. That’s news to those of us in Congress who supported it. Senator Obama didn’t even show up to vote.

    “He talks a tough game on the financial crisis, but the facts tell a different story. Senator Obama took more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than anyone but the chairman of the committee they answer to. And he put Fannie Mae’s CEO, who helped create this problem in charge of finding his Vice President. That’s not change, that’s what’s broken in Washington.

    “He talked about siding with the people, just before he flew off to Hollywood for a fundraiser with Barbra Streisand and his celebrity friends. Let me tell you, my friends, there is no place I’d rather be, than here, with the working men and women of Ohio. I’m going to fight for you and together we’re going to win in November.”

    Posted by Yid With Lid at 9/16/2008 07:32:00 PM

  137. NOW president Kim Gandy just got blasted? Saw this on RD blog:

    OMG that reporter just let them have it. asked gandy why they won’t support McKinney, because of her stances that help women, and why they support obama, after all his sexist shit (he mentioned almost evgerything in this post)…gandy answered” I’m glad the anti obama press is here”, then went on to say they trusted Joe “anita hill” Biden because they’ve worked with hiim for 30 years. jesus effing christ….

  138. Berkeley Vox Says:
    turndownobama-com, Bill Clinton’s email was to raise money for HIllary.
    ==================

    Titled “Your piece in history”? Itt’s not clear where the money goes, but it’s full of unity crap.

  139. henry, I had no expectation that Ed would win. I just wanted to see if he made a good showing to put the fear of God into Kerry. Kerry has never been challenged in the primary – not in years and years.

  140. hillary4Texas
    no expectation here either but I was hoping to see lerch beaten. Don’t know enough about why there are no term limits for senators, but damn they are hard to get rid of. Maybe a little compound w would do the trick.

  141. O Reilly isn’t much of a candidate and barely staged a campaign. Kerry agreed to debate him, for 19 minutes at 8:30 on a Sunday morning.

    When asked afterwards how he did, O’Reilly said, “Well, I didn’t faint!”.

    The O’Reilly votes are people who wanted to send a bitch-slap to Kerry bad enough to get in their cars and drive to the polls for no other reason.

    The Rebublican in November is a more formidable opponent.

  142. # JanH Says:
    September 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    So I guess I should where black tomorrow. Television scrolling says Kerry got 70% of the vote.

    ****
    I believe that’s with 2-3% reporting. Let’s see what happens when the rest come in.

  143. I confess i don’t know if this video is real but it sure as heck is FUNNY!!!!!

    McCain sings Streisand Classics.

    vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4978339

  144. ROTFLMAO! Okay, no one can say McCain does not have a sense of humor, or can’t poke fun at himself.

    Has anyone else seen this clip of him singing Streisand songs on SNL? OMG it’s hilarious! He encourages Log Cabin Republicans to buy his CD – LMAO!

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/saturdaynightlive/v/mccainstreisand.htm

  145. CTV, it is supposedly an old appearance on SNL – seems legit. I am not surprised – McCain is a funny old guy not too overly concerned with his “dignity” to have a good laugh.

    After all, he and our Hill reportedly had a late night vodka shot drinking contest on their Ukraine trip together. Hill won.

  146. basil9 Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
    I confess i don’t know if this video is real but it sure as heck is FUNNY!!!!!

    McCain sings Streisand Classics.

    vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4978339

    McCain Sings Streisand!

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    ROFL! That is the best laugh, I have had today. It was great. He does have a sense of humor, which more than I can say for some people. It must of been fairly recent, because the subject line was timely.

  147. Ed O’Reilly got 33% of the vote in MA. That is actually really good for a primary challenge. I think Kerry got the message.

  148. Nah, henry, look at the film quality. You can’t fake that “old footage” look without spending lots of money. And the words/lip movements match. I think it’s legit old SNL footage, not doctored.

  149. HillaryforTexas Says:
    McCain is a funny old guy not too overly concerned with his “dignity” to have a good laugh.

    After all, he and our Hill reportedly had a late night vodka shot drinking contest on their Ukraine trip together. Hill won.
    ============================

    I heard somebody asked Hill about that later and she said: “What happens in Estonia stays in Estonia.”

  150. henry,

    i wasn’t sure either but h4t linked to a site with a short blurb and apparently it is from an SNL show.

    ‘Watch a video clip of John McCain singing Barbra Streisand songs during his guest appearance on Saturday Night Live.
    Review:
    McCain: “I’ve been in politics for over 20 yeras. And for over 20 years, I’ve had Barbara Streisand trying to do my job. So I decided to try my hand at her job.’

  151. More info on Obama and the financial industry. Big ties to both Fannie and Freddie, and the tanked Lehman Bros.

    The demise of Lehman Brothers is tied to the subprime mortgage crisis generally and to the problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in particular. Those two mortgage lenders have given heavily to Senator Obama. In the past four years, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have given Obama a $126,000 in campaign contributions making him the number two recipient of contributions in the Senate from these recently bailed out corporations behind only Senator Dodd of Connecticut. I would expect McCain to highlight this connection in upcoming attack ads on Obama.

    Direct contributions from Lehman Brothers’ employees have exceeded $395,000 for Senator Obama. Senator Obama’s campaign also has five bundlers who have raised over $2 million for the campaign:

    John Rhea – (over $500,000) Co-Head of Lehman Bros. Global Investment Banking
    Mark Gilbert – (over $500,000) Lehman Brothers Senior Executive
    Christine Forester – (over $500,000) Lehman Brothers Senior Executive
    Theodore Janulis – Bundler (over $100,000) & Lehman Brothers Head of Global Mortgages
    Nadja Fidelia – Bundler (over $50,000) & Managing Director of Lehman Brothers

    In addition Lehman CEO Richard Fuld ($2,300) and Lehman President Joseph Gregory ($4,600) maxed out on their contributions to Senator Obama in the primaries with Gregory maxing out for the general election as well.

  152. I watched again and his rendition of ‘Memories’ and ‘Papa can you hear me’ provoked a major cheetos spew!

    Gawd I lurve that man’s wicked sense of humor. hehehe

  153. Jeeeeezzzz!
    that frankenstoniam twitchy movement he does in Papa Can you hear me is priceless and his lines . . .
    Pretty annoying, hmmmm . . .

    Now you know how she made me feel . . . .

    And his last line that a portion of the proceeds from the album would go to destroy habitat for Alaskan wildlife
    (guess that’s one of babs pet projects?) hehehe.

  154. A good place to plug Heidi’s HIllary for Senate Majority Leader site!

    h t t p : / / http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/09/where_are_the_o/index.php
    VERY EASY. Box is at the bottom, no login, goes right up.

    Where are the Obama Women? What about Hillary as Majority Leader?

    It’s too late to put Hillary on the ticket — but I wonder if Obama is willing to make his first tough-minded political act his support of Hillary Clinton as Senate Majority Leader.

    It would cost him as Harry Reid doesn’t want to be deposed and Richard Durbin and Chuck Schumer want the job — and she’s not a formal part of Senate leadership as of now.

    But extraordinary challenges require extraordinary fixes and gestures.

  155. TurnDownObama-com,

    Here’s one on RealClearPolitics that mocked Matt Damon for smearing Sarah Palin:

    w w w.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/bad_will_hunting.html

  156. TurnDownObama-com,

    Here’s one on RealClearPolitics that predicted that Obama will replace Biden with Hillary, or try to:

    w w w.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obama_might_pull_an_eaglet.html

  157. TurnDownObama-com,

    Also, RealClearPolitics.com had an article today about how Sarah Palin survived her interview with Charlie Gibson, but Gibson may not:

    w w w.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_gibson_doctrine.html

  158. TurnDownOBama-com,

    This one on RealClearPolitics notes that Sarah Palin proves that there’s sexism. People like “intactmale” on my blog for the Iowa City Press-Citizen said, “It’s not that I don’t support women candidates. I just don’t support THIS woman candidate [Hillary].” Now he’s doing the same thing to Sarah Palin. The Republicans have discovered sexism, so now sexist exists in the national media and consciousness. Hillary got Sarah selected, and Sarah proved that sexism exists. Will the political landscape ever be the same again?

    w w w.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_proves_theres_sexism.html

  159. BTW,

    I put my McCain sign right next to my Hillary Clinton signs in my yard. The Johnson Cty. Republicans don’t have the McCain-Palin yard signs any more, but I did get two McCain-Palin buttons today and a bumpersticker that says, “Another Democrat for McCain.” The co-chair of the Republicans locally said that they are all out of “Another Democrat for McCain” bumperstickers. They had about 30, but people came in and asked for them, so now they’re out again and back-ordered.

    Could it be that there are more PUMAs in Johnson County than just the few that I know of?? Iowa City is a Democratic stronghold.

  160. MariaConz

    Did you get my email a few days ago?
    —————————–

    3 minutes ago showed up on AP-Yahoo news:

    By STEVE QUINN, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago

    JUNEAU, Alaska – Alaska’s attorney general says state employees subpoenaed in the investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin will not testify.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    In a letter to the Democratic state senator overseeing the investigation, Attorney General Talis Colberg asks that the subpoenas be withdrawn. He also says the employees will not appear before the investigator unless either the full state Senate or the entire Alaska Legislature votes to compel their testimony.

    Last week, a committee of lawmakers issued subpoenas for 13 people, including Todd Palin, the governor’s husband, in the investigation of whether the governor fired her public safety chief for refusing to dismiss her former brother-in-law, an Alaska State Trooper.

    All those summoned are state employees, except Todd Palin.

  161. h t t p : // gretawire.foxnews.com

    It is one thing to disagree with Gov. Palin about her policies or her experience, but are some people just being downright nasty to her?

    Yes 99% (24345 votes)
    No 1% (328 votes)

  162. The AG is saying that the reason he is asking the entire legislature to rule is because Palin released all her emails, and even the guy she fired says it was NOT due to the trooper thing.

    So the AG is saying that for that dimocratic senator to continue to pursue it has become using his office for a partisan vendetta, and he won’t do it.

    Palin emails show that her issues with the commissioner of public safety were about his refusal to follow budget reforms that she had introduced. The back and forth between them is rancorous but on that topic. None of the emails have anything to do with the firing of her former brother in law. The commissioner himself said that he was not pressured by either the governor or her husband on firing the brother in law.

  163. Thank you for voting!

    Yes 99% (26091 votes)

    No 1% (372 votes)

    Total Votes: 26463

    Comments (223)

    Return To Poll
    PollDaddy.com

    Here is the question: “It is one thing to disagree with Gov. Palin about her policies or her experience, but are some people just being downright nasty to her?

    Yes or No

    Incredible 99% of people believe, others are being downright nasty to her.

    The program on Todd Palin was very interesting.

    Hannity interviews Governor Palin tomorrow night.

  164. This is what scares me about a Obama presidency among other things. For people who are not wealthy, much of our savings is in the homes we own.

    CAPITAL GAINS TAX

    MCCAIN:
    0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

    OBAMA:
    28% on profit from ALL home sales

    How does this affect you?

    If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

    From http://www.savagepolitics.com and there is more.. read on.

  165. JanH Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
    What is everyone’s opinion of O’Reilly on Fox News?

    I keep getting the smarmy impression that he is pro-Obama. Anyone else?
    ********************

    Yes, but I was chastised for this on another blog that told me I didn’t know what I was talking about, that O’Reily is just sly. I said he is an arrogant ass that has drunk the koolaid in his lust for Power/$. He is going with the one he thinks will win therefore keeping himself in good standing with the messiah. Interviewing him during the REpub Convention? You have to be kidding me. That my friends would never have happened in 2000, or 2004. Very weak interviews IMHO.

  166. Prominent Hillary backer and DNC member Lady de Rothschild to endorse McCain tomorrow.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/

  167. About Charley Rangel. I heard him on CNN before Hill suspended her campaign. He was asked, of course, why Hillary had not dropped out yet? His response was so ugly, I actually had no idea he was supporting her. He made a flippant statement that “well she say’s she will drop out when it’s time, but when is that time? Then he smirked and laughed and said something to the effect while shaking his head, ‘when is that time , i don’t know, we keep asking”. Those are not direct quotes but his sarcasm was evident and really pissed me off.

  168. Lady de Rothschild has been an advocate for Hillary all the way. So, it’s not just us peons in the trenches that have difficulties with BO, powerful and wealthy people also see the problems. Validating isn’t it?

  169. mariaconz,

    Thanks for the links. Great articles!

    gonzotx and everyone,

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks O’Reilly is in Obama’s camp.

  170. I very much doubt that Obama will ever give Hillary as high a position as she is deserving if we are so unfortunate to find him in the White House when this is all over. He can’t allow anyone to outshine his dented halo and we all know that Hillary can run circles around this idiot!

  171. Guys, Lady de Rothschilde is a HUGE longtime Dem donor. She is on the DNC’s freaking platform committee.

    That is going to make some news.

  172. What is O’Reilly’s love for MO? He thinks, she would make a fine first lady?? Give me a friggin’ break. Hillary Clinton in stealth, according to the other commentator. Uh, I don’t think so. Hillary was and is eons ahead of MO, in policy and performing good deeds for others. When did he get in the tank with BO? Disgusting.

    I am so proud of Lady de Rothchild. As H4Texas said, she is on the DNC’s platform committee and a heavy weight in the dimocratic party. Hmm….maybe, she realized it, was the dimocratic party, rather than the democratic party. Lady de Rothchild and her husband are on the list for Bill Clinton’s event.

  173. I’m going to be limited in what I say here. It may surprise some who think they have O’Reilly pegged to know that he gives serious four figure money annually (personal check) to an urban summer camp program for at risk youth I’m familiar with. No fanfare.

  174. Regency // September 17, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has canceled an appearance at a New York rally next week after organizers blindsided her by inviting Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, aides to the senator said Tuesday. Several American Jewish groups plan a major rally outside the United Nations on Sept. 22 to protest against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  175. Don’t know why a post i tried to submit won’t take, no http or anything, but Hillary will not be attending the demonstration in NY againstRegency // September 17, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has canceled an appearance at a New York rally next week after organizers blindsided her by inviting Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, aides to the senator said Tuesday. Several American Jewish groups plan a major rally outside the United Nations on Sept. 22 to protest against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  176. gonzotx Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:07 am
    hwc Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Admirable, but doesn’t begin to make up for his personality disorder
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    People are complex creatures, with good and not so good qualities.

  177. Hillary will not be attending the protest against Ahmadinejad. She found out SP will be there. I tried to post it, wouldn’t take.

  178. gonzotx Says:

    September 16th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
    About Charley Rangel. I heard him on CNN before Hill suspended her campaign. He was asked, of course, why Hillary had not dropped out yet? His response was so ugly, I actually had no idea he was supporting her. He made a flippant statement that “well she say’s she will drop out when it’s time, but when is that time? Then he smirked and laughed and said something to the effect while shaking his head, ‘when is that time , i don’t know, we keep asking”. Those are not direct quotes but his sarcasm was evident and really pissed me off.
    ———————————————
    Thanks. Big disappointment. Case closed. Bluedem you were right.

  179. birdgal Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:18 am
    *****************

    Unfortunately this one has an avenue of power to influence people, don’t know why, he has ALWAYS made me want to vomit…

  180. Hillary will not be attending the protest against Ahmadinejad. She found out SP will be there. I tried to post it, wouldn’t take.
    ——————————————–
    smart

  181. Prominent Hillary backer and DNC member Lady de Rothschild to endorse McCain tomorrow.
    ——————————————–
    Class act.

  182. wbboei Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
    Hillary will not be attending the protest against Ahmadinejad. She found out SP will be there. I tried to post it, wouldn’t take.

    ———————————————————————————————————-

    Can you imagine what a 3 ring circus that would be. I agree, smart move.

    ===================================================

    Unfortunately this one has an avenue of power to influence people, don’t know why, he has ALWAYS made me want to vomit…

    I know what you mean. I can’t even watch his entire show.

  183. Profile: Lady de Rothschild – A women on top of her world
    Saturday, 25th February, 2006
    By Helia Ebrahimi

    Before Lady Lynn was a Rothschild – and even before she had made her first million – a 16-year-old Lynn Forester from New Jersey had her first business coup and was hooked.

    The then teenager found her entrepreneurial opportunity while holidaying in Israel.

    ‘I found jeans selling for $10, so I emptied out my suitcase and packed it full of them,’ she says.

    When she got home she sold them for ten times the price and made a small fortune.

    When reflecting on her infant empire, the demure woman of 51, now a global business player, a friend to presidents and prime ministers and wife of Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, of prominent banking lineage, Lady Lynn’s American purr turns naughty and an excited glint races to her eyes.

    ‘It has always been natural,’ she says. ‘It is a great feeling of satisfaction and the thrill of success is better than the money,’ her head falls back as she laughs. ‘But the financial rewards are good too.’

    Lady Lynn grew up with a fierce work ethic that had her pumping gasoline into aeroplanes as her first summer job back in New Jersey.

    ‘Frankly, for the last 15 years I haven’t had to work at all. But I love it and I think it’s because of the way I grew up.

    ‘My father was always working and we – my brothers and I – always had some sort of weekend or summer job.

    ‘It was just always enforced that I needed to become financially independent. And in fact, being so competitive with my brothers, I always had the feeling that ultimately, I myself could take care of things better.’

    After studying law at Columbia, Lady Lynn joined Manhattan firm Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett on Park Avenue. She met and married a local politician, Andrew Stein, and had two sons, Ben and Jake. Like her friend Hilary Clinton, she was the breadwinner.

    ‘It was a 14 hour a day, seven days a week job which left me very little time for anything else,’ she says.

    ‘But what really turned my mind was walking in on a Sunday night and seeing Cyrus Vance, who had already become Secretary of State for the President, working away into the early hours.’ Lady Lynn connects with her eyes as if to press on me her utter shock.

    ‘If he was still doing that in his sixties and seventies – when had he lived?’

    Lady Lynn, seems too good-humoured, too fun-loving a person to have locked herself away from the world at the price of any pay cheque. Though one suspects, looking at her CV, that maybe it is just her effortless approach that makes it look so easy.

    When law stopped making sense for her, Lady Lynn started looking elsewhere to make her impact.

    ‘I was always more commercially minded so the jump to business was an easy switch.’

    She realised that communications was the next big industry and got a job in mobile phones.

    In 1989, she started her own firm, TPI, after persuading Motorola to buy her a stake in a small Puerto Rican company.

    Under her wing the company grew and grew and six years later she sold her stake for £50million.

    By this time, her marriage was over and she was a single mother.

    She went into broadband wireless provision in 1995, firstly in America, then in Europe.

    She began by winning US government licences to ride on the back of unused radio spectrum in four major U.S. cities.

    The idea was to use high-frequency radio to transmit video-on-demand or broadband internet applications, cutting out the need to lay cable.

    By this time Lady Lynn was one of the first communications pioneers. In 1997, she sold her licences, which had cost her almost nothing, to the most aggressive competitor, a start-up called Teligent, for $10 million cash and five per cent of the company, which went on to become a $1 billion mega-business.

    Her move to Europe came when she set up FirstMark Communications, a company she founded in 1998 to try her hand at the ‘wireless local loop’ idea for a second time.

    It was the heady days of the internet boom and the ambitious Manhattanite managed to lure some of the biggest names in finance to the telecom start-up.

    FirstMark raised $1 billion in venture capital and debt financing – an unheard-of amount for a European tech or telecom start-up – bought wireless licenses in six countries, built a fibre-optic network to link all the local loops, and filed for a stock market floation.

    Fortune described her as one of the five most powerful women in Europe and she began serving on a variety of committees advising President Bill Clinton.

    When she met Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, a man 23 years her senior, she was head of her own billion dollar company and politically influential in her own right.

    They fell in love and married. But her husband, as charismatic and charming as he is – and he is – won’t be mentioned here. Lynn Forester is still the star of the Lady de Rothschild show.

    As the bubble burst in the telecom world Lady Lynn started to turn her attention to other enterprises.

    ‘I wanted to find another industry with as much potential as telecommunication had. I kept thinking, what’s the next big thing?

    ‘The answer was most definitely Asia. Developing economies are very exciting. It was just a choice of looking at the macroeconomics of it.

    ‘China already had £49 billion of investment being injected into it whereas India was looking at only £4.9 billion. There was much more scope and space for growth.’

    With ERL Holdings, where Lady Lynn is founder and chief executive, Lady Lynn has set up a 50:50 joint venture with Sunil Mittal to develop 300 acres of land in Ladhowal, Punjab. The plan is to export fresh fruit and vegetables out of India.

    FieldFresh Foods plans to sell between 400 and 800 tonnes of farm produce every day to supermarkets across Europe, South East Asia and West Asia with the hope of transforming Punjab into the Holland of India.

    But that’s not all. There are a world of opportunities out there now and Lady Lynn is keen to be in at ground level on all of them.

    ‘It is very exciting to be looking at realising India’s potential,’ she says. ‘We are working together with the best investors and operators out there.

    ‘I’m not a control freak so I’m quite happy to be passive when I recognise other people have the expertise. However, I’m also not afraid to rock the boat when I disagree or see something new.

    ‘And India is a country that I really love and in Mittal I have found not just a business partner but a friend for life.’

    Lady Lynn’s fiery energy is mischievous and excited. She seems to love her life and why shouldn’t she?

    Together with ELR she is a board director at the Economist Magazine Group, Estee Lauder, a trustee of the American Fund for the Tate Gallery, the Outward Bound trust, the Old Vic Theatre Trust and the patron of the Everywoman Awards.

    Her home is relaxed, with a kind of designer chaos that she puts down to moving. But the towers of books, open sketchbooks, and haphazard framed pictures of all the people she loves are so alluring one hopes they won’t ever be tidied away completely.

    Her relationship with her two boys seems full of love as she proudly declares they have turned out very much like herself but adds, beaming: ‘they will be much better.’

    I ask if they are intimidated by her success. The idea is a foreign one in Lady Lynn’s world. ‘Why?’ she asks. I know I had an answer because I know children in that position – but suddenly it seems a ridiculous supposition.

    Despite all her success and power, Lady Lynn is far from intimidating. She is immediately intimate, self-deprecating, funny and full of love.

    She is unquestionably beautiful with legs that seem to go on and on has managed one of those rare things as a female business tycoon, the ability to retain femininity alongside a hefty portion of intellect and entrepreneurial acumen.

    This is most definitely not a Lady to mess with, but one you invariably will want to meet again and again.

  184. wbboei: Thank you. A very interesting article. I can see why she is friends with the Clintons, and admires Hillary. She probably also admires Governor Palin.

    Since she has been so intimately involved with the DNC, she is probably aware of, and appalled at the level of corruption in the party, which may be why, she does not like BO.

  185. I agree birdgal. We know how corrupt it was and being an insider she knows better than we. I am hoping that Greta’s husband’s prediction turns out to be correct and other movers and shakers democrats move to mccain.

    By the way this is what serious democrats do–unless they have colleagues and constituents to serve. You can be damned sure that if she was not a public servant at the moment Hillary would be doing the same thing. A political party is more than a label. It is the values it stands for.

    Obama has the first but not the second. The label but not the values. He is a crass opportunist and his record proves it. When those are the conditons that prevail true democrats will not vote for obama-because he wont keep his word and he will sink the party.

  186. Just when you think things could not get crazier in Obamaland, there is now the “Change Ring.”

    From No quarter:

    “Gotta love that marketing! Voting for President is more than just a civic responsibility. It’s cool, too! First, behold The ChangeRing. Then, behold why it is a problem:

    …A wearable symbol of “change” that is becoming a cult hit in Obamaland. Originally designed to be a wearable key-chain … young Obamaphiles have also taken to hanging it from a necklace or strapping it on their wrist.

    Driving its movement around the country is that it is sold as “buy one/give one” and people are passing it to their friends and family members.

    Another thing that makes The ChangeRing so compelling is the multi-layered story that has been woven into the product: the ring and its packaging are made in America from recycled materials … with an SMS lost-key tracking system. The ChangeRing also comes in a re-usable package. …

    The ChangeRing has also produced the first full musical compilation in support of Obama: 14 Change cover songs … by various American artists [downloadable] on the website.

    Celebrities reportedly wearing The ChangeRing: Susan Sarandon, Cuba Gooding Jr, Nick Cannon, Mary-Kate Olsen, Kelly Carlson, Tim Robbins, Ashley Simpson, … Pharell Williams and N.E.R.D., Alan Cumming, Hayden Panettier, Josh Lucas, Kerry Washington, Matthew Modine, Pras (Fugees), Apl.de.ap (Black Eyed Peas), … Jessica Alba. ”

    noquarterusa.net/blog/

    Btw, that McCain video clip is the funniest thing that I have seen in a long, long time.

  187. wbboei: I think Lady de Rothchilde also attended the Republican Convention, and may have been a box with Carly Fiorna.

  188. mariaconz Says:
    TurnDownObama-com,
    I can’t seem to comment on RealClearPolitics and not sure why, but I can get the URLs for the good articles for you! I will get back to you
    ====================

    Thanks Maria! I tested all those and posted just fine. They came up with my screen name from long ago.

    What happens when you post there?

  189. Right on cue, Obama playing the race card again:

    iowaindependent.com/5627/sebelius-obamas-race-may-be-a-factor

    IOWA CITY — Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius publicly considered the possibility that Sen. Barack Obama’s race might be a factor in this year’s presidential election during an appearance here Tuesday.

    “Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?” Sebelius asked in response to a question about why the election is so close. “That may be a factor. All the code language, all that doesn’t show up in the polls. And that may be a factor for some people.”

    The remark, delivered in the governor’s low key, folksy, out-from-behind-the-podium style, raised a couple chuckles but few eyebrows in the downtown Iowa City crowd, but Republicans took offense and responded in short order.

    “Governor Sebelius’s remarks in Iowa City today are hurtful and divisive at best,” said Republican Party of Iowa Executive Director Caleb Hunter in a press release. “With less than 50 days to go, Democrats will continue to try and change the focus away from the issues that will decide this election.”

    Sinking polls. Who would have predicted the race card? I guess this means we should be seeing that Clyburn asshole any minute now.

  190. Selibius is what the bolsheviks used to call an apparatchik. The translation is a subordinate who is unquestioningly loyal to a powerful political leader or organization. A month ago she was telling us that Bambi is the product of down home Kansas values. Now she plays the race card right on que. The race is close not because he is a rookie with toxic associations no core beliefs and terrible gaffs, but because race of his race. Selib is pretty pathetic.

  191. I was watching some Obamaphile talk about the 300 bills Obama passed. Rick Santorum, for whom I used to have very little use, looked amazed and said, “No, I was there” The O guy said “No, his name was on them” To which Rick said, “Oh, well you can always just sign your name, but he didn’t DO anything.” Good for you, Rick.

  192. freckles Says:
    I was watching some Obamaphile talk about the 300 bills Obama passed. Rick Santorum, for whom I used to have very little use, looked amazed and said, “No, I was there” The O guy said “No, his name was on them” To which Rick said, “Oh, well you can always just sign your name, but he didn’t DO anything.” Good for you, Rick.
    =================

    Iirc FactCheck.org had something on this. In the ILlinois senate, Emil Jones gave Obama credit for a lot of bills that other senators had written and done the work on. IN the US Senate, there’s a link at http://www.ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground that would probabaly have something on this — big Chi Trib profile , segment titled something like polishing “the Obama brand.”

  193. It seems that it’ll be easy to figure out what Dims to cleanout, which Dims have no back-bone, are willing to sell out and pander, and put the people’s lives and futures at stake for a Snake Oil Salesman – we’ll just look at the list of BO endorsers and who stuck the knife in the Clintons’ backs early on…and there you have it. House cleaned.

  194. Palin did a great job in Alaska with the oil companies.and other reforms, fighting against her own party. Now she wants to get to work nationwide, on oil companies and on Wall Street.

    Here is a great article on how she did it: by staying out of ’social issues’ so as not to offend Democrats. (It worked: she has 80-90% approval.)

    “Here you are in Alaska, a state that grew rich on oil and gas, in a state where Republicans generally protected the industry,” says Persily, who worked for Palin in Washington. “Now you have Palin who comes in, says, ‘Tax ‘em,’ and the Legislature says, ‘We’ll see your tax, and we’ll double it,’ and everyone went home happy other than the oil industry. It’s a very surprising turn of events.”
    Eric Croft, a former Democratic state representative from Anchorage, says, “On oil and gas, her positions are much closer to that of the national Democratic Party than of the national Republican Party.”
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-11-palin-cover_N.htm

  195. Hi moonpluto!
    If you watch that JM tape a couple more times you’ll laugh even more. I wish his campaign would turn it into an ad!

    BTW – tonight on hcsfjm Steve Schmidt is the guest. 8-9pm.

    HRC pulling out of the Ahmadinijad protest coz of Palin is all over the news.

    hmmmmmm. . . . the consensus is it will hurt dems with the jewish vote. Wonder if HRC figured on that? Whaddaya think?
    r

  196. emjay,

    I am sorry. I got a wonderful email of congrats (for being picked up by Ann Coulter) from someone nice and my stupid email automatically checks delete for every email I send and it got deleted by accident. I have to remember to UNcheck “delete” when I leave an email to look for a source if I don’t want the email deleted.

    I had too many emails in my inbox and Mediacom, my email service provider, put me on a strict diet.

    Was that you? Could you email me again?? Please?

  197. hwc: good connection–I did not see it when I read it the first time–it is South Carolina again and as before through surrogates. Part of the strategy is race and part of it is Roe and call it a new kind of politics. For those who vote on issues the bottom line is obama will not deliver for anyone except big business and his new coalition. He is a trojan horse.

  198. The problem I have with the polls is the discrepancy of the parties private polls compare to the public polls.

    Obama over polling in the polls and why some states are not being polled regularly.

  199. Here’s a good article in RealClearPolitics.com about how Obama refuses to endorse political reform in the most corrupt state in the union, Illinois:

    w w w.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/obama_sidesteps_reform_in_illi.html

  200. turndownobama-com,

    What happens when I try to post is that it won’t accept my password OR give me another one!!! It gave me a silly one with nonsense letters and numbers. I thought I changed it to something I could remember, but it won’t accept that one or send me another. Sheesh.

  201. BTW,

    I don’t think that O’Reilly is pro-Obama, not at all. He just knows that he scored a coup in getting Obama to submit to an interview, and he doesn’t want to blow it by lobbing anything but softballs to Bambi. There are other talk show hosts who get all vague about their voting preferences before elections to keep people on the hook and induce candidates from both sides to appear to be interviewed without fear.

    Is it possible that O’Reilly knows that Bambi is a holy shrine, not a person, and must be deferred to in order to avoid charges of racism? That would be weird.

  202. I think that Hillary is between a rock and a hard place on that Ahmadinejad protest. It could really cost her to bow down to Bambi and continue to sell his brand, while putting Palin down because Palin has said some very nice things about Hillary. I’m getting very tired of seeing that collar and leash around Hillary’s neck. It’s demeaning.

    But what should she do?

  203. The AP is spinning hard for Obama, even going so far as to rewrite what Sebelius said yesterday in order to remove offending language.

    Yep, that’s right, the AP altered their original story (where Sebelius palyed the race card heavy and hard) to something more palatable, rather than WHAT SHE ACTUALLY SAID.

    Guys, we are in a fight with Big Media, who are going all out for Bambi. Please spread this around.

    Here are Sebelius’ actual words, as first reported on the AP site:

    Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius accused Republicans on Tuesday of injecting race into the presidential campaign, arguing that they are using “code language” to convince Midwesterners that Democrat Barack Obama is different from them.

    “Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?” Sebelius asked with sarcasm. “(Republicans) are not going to go lightly into the darkness.”

    Sebelius was responding to a question from the audience at the Iowa City Public Library about the tenacity of Democrats and whether they would fight for victory as hard as Republicans in the closing weeks of the election.

    After a bit of an outcry, this is how they have now altered the text:

    “I think that the notion that, ‘By the way, have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African American?’ I think that is for a number of people difficult,” Sebelius said. “I think we need to talk about the fact that that is a real issue.”

    There ya go. They just POOF! erased what she actually said.

    edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/ap-purges-obama-camps-race-card-against-the-gop/

  204. That boring dolt of a governor of Kansas was here in my town last night? Oh. I didn’t even know, and I am still on the listserve for the UDEMS, and other local democratic organizations, I guess only passers by showed up since it was downtown, probably on the ped-mall. Oh well, I didn’t want to fall asleep downtown anyways and get pick-pocketed or something. She is deadly boring.

  205. ADmin….. please imbed

    Move America Forward has just released this video

    it’s about how obama broke the law with the logan act, it is a very powerful 30 second ad to say the least!! pass it around folks!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqHFk-3yQM

    found it posted in this article, linked at realclearpolitics.com
    h t t p : / / takeourcountryback-snooper.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-camp-confirms-treason-and-logan.html

  206. gee, where have we heard this before from the BO camp: “our opponents are racists.”

    first its Hillary and Bill Clinton, and now it’s the Republicans. So, commonality – anyone who’s competing for the Presidency with Obama is a racist.

    Obama’s new tactic is to have white people, like Silbelius, play the race card.

    And the AP is atrocious – I don’t know that they even went so far as to CHANGE the text of quotes to coverup for Obama during the primary.

  207. mariaconz Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 10:25 am
    I think that Hillary is between a rock and a hard place on that Ahmadinejad protest.

    ————————————————————-
    Honestly, unless there is a major reason other than Palin is going to be present, then I think Hillary should be at the protest. It speaks to bi-partisonship. Since both McCain and Obama were in New York together for the event commemorating 9/11, then what is the difference?

  208. “Battleground Poll” Has McCain Ahead
    September 16, 2008 3:20 PM

    John McCain leads Barack Obama by 48 percent to 44 percent nationwide, according to George Washington University’s “Battleground Poll” that was conducted by the Democratic firm Lake Research Partners and The Tarrance Group, a Republican firm, of 1,000 registered likely voters from Sept. 7-11. McCain and Obama have nearly identical favorable/unfavorable ratings (58/37 for McCain and 57/37 for Obama), as do vice-presidential running mates Joe Biden (49/29) and Sarah Palin (53/29). When voters were asked to compare McCain and Obama on a range of qualities, McCain led Obama on “is a strong leader” and “keeping America safe and secure” and Obama led McCain on “handling the health care issue” and “will bring change to Washington.” More voters say Obama rather than McCain “will unite the country” and “fights for people like me,” but McCain has significantly narrowed the gap since May.

    A Rasmussen Reports survey on Sept. 14 of 500 likely voters in each of five battleground states found McCain making marginal gains in Colorado, Florida and Pennsylvania and Obama gaining a bit in Ohio and Virginia. All five states, which have 90 electoral votes between them, are very close: only in Florida, where McCain leads Obama by 49 percent to 44 percent, is any candidate’s advantage larger than the survey’s margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. (For specific results, check out these states in our latest general election match-ups posting today).

    The Battleground Poll found that in the race for Congress, respondents said, by a 48 percent to 40 percent margin, that they would vote for the Democratic candidate over the Republican candidate. The Democrats have the edge even though most of the public has a dim view of the Congress they control: just 19 percent approve and 72 percent disapprove of the job Congress has done this year.

    blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2008/09/battleground-poll-has-mccain-a.html

  209. djia Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 11:05 am
    ADmin….. please imbed

    Move America Forward has just released this video

    it’s about how obama broke the law with the logan act, it is a very powerful 30 second ad to say the least!! pass it around folks!!

    * * * * * *
    I also heard JMac talking about finance industry reform legislation THAT HE PROPOSED IN 2005 that might have headed off this fall’s crash but were blocked by the “Dim” congress. Were the Dim’s playing politics with our financial security, knowing that the Dims will benefit from a “dim” economic outlook?

    Combined with Barack’s Iraqi adventure (we KNOW what you did last summer), where he played politics with our troops and national security by attempting to delay security agreements for withdrawal from Iraq, and that paints a DISGRACEFUL picture of how the Dims would rule under the dangerous narcissist, Barack Hussein Obama.

  210. Libertarian Group Condemns Sarah Palin for Not Killing Disabled Baby in Abortion

    by Steven Ertelt
    LifeNews.com Editor
    September 17, 2008

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — A writer for a libertarian group has written perhaps the most scathing attack on pro-life vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin since the Alaska governor was announced weeks ago as John McCain’s running mate. Nicholas Provenzo condemns Palin for the birth of her baby Trig, who has Down syndrome.

    Provenzo, who writes for the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism, not only bashes her for allowing Trig to be born, but says she should have made the so-called morally justifiable decision to kill him in an abortion.

    The Center for the Advancement of Capitalism bills itself as a group “dedicated to advancing individual rights and economic freedom through Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism.”

    “Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome,” Provenzo writes.

    “Given that Palin’s decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny,” he adds.

    Provenzo advocates not only a discriminatory, but apparently a pro-eugenics view of the disabled that rivals that of Nazi Germany.

    “A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves,” he contends. “Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child’s life upon others”

    Provenzo goes on to condemn National Review writer Michael Franc, who sees Down syndrome’s victims as “ambassadors of God” who “offer us the opportunity to rise to that greatest of all challenges.”

    In a rebuke that smacks of selfishness at its worse, Provenzo says, “for many” potential parents of disabled babies, “that opportunity for challenge is little more than a lifetime of endless burden.”

    Fortunately for Trig, Palin decided otherwise.

    While as many as 80-90 percent of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome become victims of abortion, Palin didn’t let her child become a statistic. Palin, who has deeply-felt pro-life views, gave birth to her fifth child in April and the baby was diagnosed with the condition.

    “Trig is beautiful and already adored by us,” Palin said in a statement LifeNews.com obtained at the time.

    “We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives,” she said.

    ‘We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed,” the 44 year-old governor added.

    Trig was born on Friday, one month before his due date, and he weighed 6 pounds, 2 ounces.

    http://www.lifenews.com/printpage.php
    *****************************************************
    I never knew how hateful some pro-choice groups are to those who made different choices and since Palin was chosen for McCain vp…this view has been express more and more as a reason to dismiss her.

  211. JanH, Hillary is not going, because the press is salivating for a perceived cat fight, and she refuses to give them one. She knows they will create one out of thin air given any pretext whatsoever.

    That UN protest would be completely overshadowed by the Clinton vs. Palin narrative if she went. That is ALL the press would talk about if she went, rather than talking about the issue at hand. Hillary is right on this – the protest is too important to let it become about her. She is a class act.

  212. I think Ldy rothschilds needs to get on the American Punjabs/indians big time…
    there is a big group in Calfornia and NY/NJ!!!! Most of these were supporting Hillary.
    In California I know quite a few now who support McCain!!!

  213. Jan, H4T – we can always count on our Hill to take the high road, however difficult it is to perceive.
    * * * * *
    Carby, your post about the hateful libertarian group does underscore that the mantle of “pro-choice” is a BIG LIE. “Choice” implies respect for others’ private decisions, whatever they may be. I’m so disappointed in many of the so-called progressives’ rhetoric on choice, women’s issues, and so much more. Time for reform – all around.

  214. wbboei -You are right, Hillary is smarter than all the Bo’s and Joe’s but the DNC is not. That is why they will lose in November.

  215. McCain Deserves A Look, Too

    Nia, Age 17

    Nia writes that young African-Americans should listen to both candidates before making a decision about who they will support.

    Why this Student Spoke Out

    The presidential election between Senators Barack Obama and John McCain is less than two months away.

    Republican Sen. John McCain faces a tough crowd with African-Americans, but he has good ideas.

    As I walk the halls of Mays High School, I hear students talking about voting for Barack Obama or wearing Obama shirts. But has anyone ever really read about John McCain’s campaign? Most people are quick to turn the other cheek and act as if McCain isn’t running for the presidency.

    As an African-American, my first thought was Obama, and that’s it. I didn’t care about what he wanted to change or what he stood for; I just saw that he was black.

    Every time McCain spoke or appeared on television, he came across as if he didn’t know what he was talking about. But after reading the speech he gave at the Republican National Convention, McCain could possibly be a good candidate for the presidency.

    McCain’s take on the issues

    McCain spoke of his wife, Cindy McCain, his vice presidential running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and Obama with compassion and kindness. McCain hit on topics such as creating jobs, cutting taxes, fighting for education, saving energy, and he said he has fought against corruption from crooked deals at the Pentagon and big spenders in both political parties.

    McCain also said he has a plan to cut taxes for small businesses so they can survive alongside big corporations. This is important because small businesses provide valuable services that big corporations do not focus on. Small companies help neighborhoods develop and grow, and they create new jobs.

    “I plan to reduce government spending and get rid of failed programs to let you keep more of your own money to save, spend and invest as you see fit,” McCain said.

    He also wants community colleges to train people for new opportunities in their own communities. McCain wants the public schools to answer to the students and the parents. He wants to drill new wells for oil offshore.

    Some people have called McCain a maverick for moving to the beat of his own drum.

    “Sometimes it’s a compliment and sometimes it’s not,” he said. “What it really means is I understand who I work for. I don’t work for a party. I don’t work for a special interest. I don’t work for myself. I work for you.”

    Making a smart choice
    What America needs right now is a leader who is going to stand up for what is right and not what he feels is best for himself. We need a leader who is strong enough to deal with the pressures of running a country.

    McCain has good opinions and ideas for this nation. As people of the United States, we should have respect for all people, regardless of their values, ideas and beliefs. We all want to be heard and McCain is no different.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/speakout/us/july-dec08/mccain_0917.html

  216. HillaryforTexas,

    Did they expect a cat fight between Obama and McCain at the 9/11 event?

    I still don’t think that Hillary should stay away for that reason alone, but it’s just my opinion.

  217. # Illinois Underground Says:
    September 17th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    Jan, H4T – we can always count on our Hill to take the high road, however difficult it is to perceive.
    * * * * *
    Carby, your post about the hateful libertarian group does underscore that the mantle of “pro-choice” is a BIG LIE. “Choice” implies respect for others’ private decisions, whatever they may be. I’m so disappointed in many of the so-called progressives’ rhetoric on choice, women’s issues, and so much more. Time for reform – all around.
    *************
    The pro-abortion argument of the economic right highlights the danger of pushing anti-abortion laws. If the government can mandate forced child birth they can also mandate forced abortion. The hard economic times that are coming my swing public opinion toward the libertarian view.

  218. Sarah Palin to speak to CBS News’ Katie Couric
    54 minutes ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — Second in the broadcast network competition to talk to Sarah Palin: Katie Couric.

    The CBS anchor will spend two days on the road with the Republican vice presidential candidate as well as presidential hopeful John McCain, the network said Tuesday.

    Couric’s interview material will be aired Sept. 29 and 30 on the “CBS Evening News” and “The Early Show.”

    It’s timed for just before the Oct. 2 vice presidential debate between Palin and Democrat Joe Biden.

    ABC’s Charles Gibson had the first in-depth network interview with Palin last week. She’s also talking to Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity this week.

    There’s no word on whether Couric’s interview material will appear on “60 Minutes,” which competed hard to get the first Palin interview.

    Awarding Couric the interview also appears to be a clear message from the McCain campaign to NBC News. Republicans have been unhappy with NBC, primarily because of the active support for Barack Obama voiced by MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann.

    So while Gibson and Couric have interviews with Palin, NBC’s Brian Williams — who anchors the top-rated evening news program — has been snubbed so far.

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hehMkMu23Oc1VW0z4nSrog8UvGLgD938I7MO0

  219. Yet another crucial swing state, Colorado, which Obama promised to win, is breaking McCain’s way, according to a new poll:

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    rasmussen.com

    John McCain has taken a modest lead over Barack Obama in Colorado this week. The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds the Republican on top 48% to 46% (crosstabs available for Premium Members).

    A week ago, it was Obama who had a modest 49% to 46% edge in the Centennial State. The race in Colorado has been close since tracking began back in February, with the biggest advantage for either candidate being Obama’s 49% to 42% edge in July. This week’s numbers mark just the second time the Democrat has trailed in the race.

  220. For me, Hillary taking the high road would be ignoring the media wolves and proving them wrong at this event.

    LOL…not gonna say anymore on the topic.

  221. JanH Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
    HillaryforTexas,

    Did they expect a cat fight between Obama and McCain at the 9/11 event?

    I still don’t think that Hillary should stay away for that reason alone, but it’s just my opinion.
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    I think Hillary supporters, like myself, need to focus on those still in the fight.

    My focus can’t be on Hillary at this time because she is not on the ticket. I think Hillary is right to take herself out of the line of fire to be use by team Obama and others in the media.

    It is very interesting to me to see Hillary haters in the Democratic Leadership-Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and others what to push Hillary out there instead of Joe Biden. Obama chose Biden as his vp and it is not disrespectful to Hillary that John McCain wants to introduce his vp, Sarah Palin to the UN and other like supporters.

    I don’t think it’s fair on Hillary to take Obama’s slings and arrows and if Obama want to check-mate Palin, he need to send his vp.

    At this point of the campaign…my focus is NObama NOvember!

  222. mariaconz Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
    Any news on O’Reilly against Kerry in Massachusetts?
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    I read Kerry won.

  223. New book by wsj writer john fund claims:

    President Obama and the Coming Stock Market Crash

    How destructive to the U.S. economy would a Barack Obama presidency be?

    There could be a very rough time ahead.

    Beneath Obama’s flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

    Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

    Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

    In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama’s doubling of the tax rates next year.

    Indeed, Obama makes no bones about his plans to go on a tax rampage. Not only would he increase the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to as much as 28 percent, he wants to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire in 2010, which effectively raises taxes on Americans by tens of billions of dollars.

    He also wants to do away with the $102,000 FICA payroll tax cap, which means anyone making over $102,000 would pay an additional 7 percent in taxes on earned income.

    If you are concerned about your wealth and family’s financial survival — and the American economy — you need to know:

    How Obama’s policies could cost more than $850 billion over four years

    The dire repercussions of Obama’s minimum wage proposal for small businesses and retail outlets
    Obama aides’ private and very revealing admission about the candidate’s economic savvy

    The surprising revelation when Barack’s own tax returns were reviewed by an expert

    Obama’s Social Security plan: a giant income-redistribution scheme

    How Obama’s policies could boost some tax rates to 60 percent

    Leading economist Arthur Laffer’s warning on Obamanomics

    Obama’s policies point by point on energy, healthcare, regulation, and the housing crisis

    Who would lose under Obama’s tax proposals — and who would win

    How Barack “flunked” an easy question on capital gains

    Why Obama’s campaign against special interests would backfire

    Obama’s plan to double America’s foreign aid
    How Obama’s trade policies would damage U.S. multinationals

    Obama’s embarrassing denial regarding NAFTA
    The National Taxpayers Union’s Obama rating: just 5 percent

    Obama’s misguided views on technology’s future
    How the Democrat would undermine private sector healthcare

    As Admin says: Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

  224. The polls are swinging back slightly in obama’s favor. That surprises me. Do you think there is a lot of statistical noise out there bec ause of Wall Street crashing and the hurricane?

  225. So while Gibson and Couric have interviews with Palin, NBC’s Brian Williams — who anchors the top-rated evening news program — has been snubbed so far.
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    Dudley Doright does not need an interview. He can make stuff up about her just as easily without one and wont need to fool around with all that editing which invariably leaves the best part of the interview on the cutting room floor.

  226. Donna Brazille plays the race card again in Politico:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13524.html

    She said that at times “Obama’s voice is strong and articulate, but people don’t feel attached to him, and they have got to feel attached to him. That would answer some racial aspects that simmer below the radar and sometimes percolate over the top.”

    “He has had some moments where he seems unsure of his own voice,” Brazile said, “but I still think he can pull this off.”

    And if he doesn’t?

    “If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”

    Too many of these recently to be a coincidence. Looks like Obama has his surrogates out crying race. Next we’ll see Jesse Jr accusing McCain of being a racist.

  227. One of the things about this election is how the media has played a part in their out of control reporting of the financial market crisis.

    What is pissing me off is that millions of American’s 401ks, pensions, annuities and other finanicial instruments are being impacted by the liberal media bias for Obama and the Democrats.

    Never in my life have I seen such irresponsibility by those who shape the news. The Democrats and Republicans are equally responsible in this mess, although some on both sides have been warning about the problems taking place. Hillary Clinton and John McCain have both sounded the alarm about the over leveraging….Obama and Biden, didn’t hear much from them about this issue.

  228. For the last time all you obamabots out there, including Brazille et al: This is not about race and it never has been!!!!!

    Obama is the least experienced, least ready to lead on day one, most crooked candidate ever.

    What part of this don’t you understand? If he doesn’t win, and I hope to God he doesn’t, it won’t be because of race, it will be because more Americans refuse to be blackmailed into voting for a man who has no business running for this position.

  229. I agree with JanH and Mariaconz. Hillary should go. When I first read that she had cancelled, my first impression was that she was snubbing Sarah Palin and/or would have trouble being polite to Sarah. The media could make big news of that very issue and may just do that. Hillary has kept herself as part of this campaign and in the spotlight by continuing to stump for Obama. I think that if she really wanted to keep out of the spotlight, she should stop campaigning for Obama, stop sending emails asking for democatic unity support while also not publicly saying anything negative about him.

    Anyway, I also agree that Joe Biden should be pushed more to stump for Obama since he IS the vp.

  230. I think that Hillary is between a rock and a hard place on that Ahmadinejad protest. It could really cost her to bow down to Bambi and continue to sell his brand, while putting Palin down because Palin has said some very nice things about Hillary.
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    I wonder if this protest is not a prelude to an Israeli attack on Iraq.

    As far as Hillary is concerned it seems to me she is playing it down the middle.

    I am not watching her anymore. But I am still a strong supporter.

  231. sorry, I meant an attack on Iran. As far as Iraq we beat them to the punch. On the other hand maybe I was being prescient, since bambi believes in attacking allies.

  232. indy, You actually think Hillary would have trouble being polite to Sarah? You must have a very low opinion of her to even entertain the thought that she’d act that way.

  233. Paula,

    That’s why I think there must be a bigger reason for Hillary not attending. It doesn’t make sense to me otherwise.

  234. “If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”

    This argument is being pushed to set up another BO run in 2012 or beyond. They’re trying to shift the blame from him blowing a sure thing to blaming everyone else.

  235. Kerry won the Massachusetts primary but the significant part is that O’Reily gave Kerry a run.. (very low turnout…this too is significant)
    Democrats Votes Vote %
    John Kerry 336,521 69%
    Edward O’Reilly 151,929 31%

    1 out of 3 people sent a message to Kerry they were unhappy with him.

    In 2002 Kerry won reelection with 80% of the vote of around 2 million votes, so it does say something

  236. Brazille is treasonous to our party and our country. She is also a pig.

    By framing this issue as racism she puts the country in a no win position:

    If he is elected, we get an unqualified president at a critical time and the thousand misfortunes that come with it.

    If he is rejected, then it provides the wrong diagnosis to a patient on life support, creates disillusion and may lead to civil disorder as theatened by Wilder and JJIII.

  237. One more time…the issues is too important to let the media Hijack attention away with a “cat fight” between Hillary and Sarah. It’s wrong and it places Hillary in a no win situation.

    Hillary has givin her support but Gov. Sarah Palin is the vp for the Republican party.

  238. If he is rejected, then it provides the wrong diagnosis to a patient on life support, creates disillusion and may lead to civil disorder as theatened by Wilder and JJIII.
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    Please that fear tactic and you can’t run your life being afraid. This is about getting power and Obama want to be President and the Democrats doesn’t want to lose.

    This is not about the people and what Obama doesn’t know is that he has less riggle room for mistakes….it’s a fact that if he doesn’t produce in 12 months the Democrats will lose in the off year elections and that’s a fact.

  239. WaPo piece from this morning, ripping Obama’s directionless campaign:

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    Obama’s Panic

    By Michael Gerson
    Wednesday, September 17, 2008; A19

    Seldom has there been a larger contrast between the style of a candidate and the strategy of his campaign.

    Barack Obama is cool, firm and permanently unruffled. It is precisely this quality of steadiness that has made him seem a credible prospective president with the thinnest of résumés.

    But Obama’s campaign is rootless, reactive and panicky. At every stage since securing the nomination, it has seemed fearful of missteps and unsure of its own organizing principle. So it has invariably adopted the Democratic conventional wisdom of the moment.

    Obama’s first major decision was his running mate. He could have reinforced a message of change and moderation with a Democratic governor who wins in a Republican state, or reached for history by selecting Hillary Clinton. But his choice came soon after Russia invaded Georgia, and the conventional wisdom demanded an old hand who knew his way around Tbilisi. When the Georgia crisis faded, Obama was left with a partisan, undisciplined, congressional liberal at his side. This has served to undermine Obama’s message of change — and has allowed Sarah Palin to pilfer a portion of that appeal.

    Obama’s second decision concerned the tone and content of his convention. Here the Democratic conventional wisdom was nearly unanimous. Obama should shelve his highfalutin rhetoric and talk like a real Democrat. Go after McCain. Talk about “bread and butter” issues — code words for class-warfare attacks on consumers of blinis and caviar.

    Obama took this advice to the letter — at the cost of his political identity. In his Denver speech, it seemed that every American home was on the auction block, every car stalled for lack of gasoline, every credit card bill past due, every worker treated like a Russian serf. And John McCain? He was out of touch, with flawed “judgment.” His life devoted to serving oil companies and big corporations. And, by the way, he didn’t have the courage to follow Osama bin Laden “to the cave where he lives.” In obedience to the best Democratic advice, Obama managed to be conventional, bitter and graceless.

    Now Obama has made his third major campaign decision — to finally get really tough on McCain. In response to attacks and dropping polls, the Democratic wisdom is once again nearly uniform: Democrats lose because they are not vicious enough. And once again, the Obama campaign has taken this advice without hesitation. “We will respond with speed and ferocity to John McCain’s attacks, and we will take the fight to him,” says Obama’s campaign manager.

    Obama feels provoked — and he has been. There is no evidence that Obama supported explicit sex education for kindergarteners, as a McCain ad implied. Having already accused McCain of being a cowardly corporate tool who is disconnected from reality, escalation is not an easy task for Obama. But he has managed. In one recent commercial, McCain is clearly mocked for his age — compared to a disco ball and a 10-pound cellphone. Another ad uses the word “dishonorable” next to a photo of McCain — an attack from a candidate who has little practical familiarity with the cost of honor.

    Who is hurt most by this race to the bottom? McCain, by the evidence of his own convention, wants to be a viewed as a fighter — which a fight does little to undermine. Obama was introduced to America as a different and better kind of politician — an image now in tatters.

    Even worse for Obama, all these shifts to catch the prevailing winds confirm the most serious concerns about his political character. As a senator, he has almost never opposed the ideological consensus of his party. (The ethics reform he often cites as his profile in courage eventually passed the Senate 96 to 2.) And now as a presidential candidate, Obama has run his campaign with all the constancy of a skittish sailboat on an erratic ocean.

    Here is a different strategy. Obama could attempt to “beat back the politics of fear, and doubt, and cynicism.” He could try to build a coalition that “stretches through red states and blue states.” He could reject “the politics where we tear each other down instead of lifting this country up.”

    The candidate who said those words the night he won the Iowa caucuses did pretty well. But whatever the outcome of this presidential election, that candidate is no longer in the race.

  240. This financial situation is rapidly deteriorating. My guess is that is what Hillary is working on. Yesterday there was an interview with Levin, Brown and Stableow. They did not know what to do about it. We need some alteratives to the current system. I will let you know more. If Robert Rubin has anything to say listen. Hillary too. The days of bailing out speculators and putting the debt burden on the American People are over. We are technically bankrupt right now. The legal definiton of bankruptch is liablilities exceed assets. Bambi is clueless.

  241. debbie Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
    Kerry won the Massachusetts primary but the significant part is that O’Reily gave Kerry a run.. (very low turnout…this too is significant)
    Democrats Votes Vote %
    John Kerry 336,521 69%
    Edward O’Reilly 151,929 31%

    1 out of 3 people sent a message to Kerry they were unhappy with him.

    In 2002 Kerry won reelection with 80% of the vote of around 2 million votes, so it does say something
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    So Kerry won in the primary and will now run against a Republican challenger come Nov.

  242. carby, I agree but there must be something more significant to keep Hillary from this event. I can’t imagine that she would not go “simply” because Palin was on the bill. This is poor judgement by her advisors and her.

    If anything this plays into the hands of the republicans because Palin was willing to cross party lines to stand up for something important …and Hillary and the Democrats were not?? bad move

  243. wbboei Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    This financial situation is rapidly deteriorating. My guess is that is what Hillary is working on. Yesterday there was an interview with Levin, Brown and Stableow. They did not know what to do about it. We need some alteratives to the current system. I will let you know more. If Robert Rubin has anything to say listen. Hillary too. The days of bailing out speculators and putting the debt burden on the American People are over. We are technically bankrupt right now. The legal definiton of bankruptch is liablilities exceed assets. Bambi is clueless.
    *****************************************************
    I heard this yesterday on Fox and the more the iresponsible MSM keep talking up doom and gloom the more this affect the market. I’m so pissed at the Obamcrats right now showing glee at the situation like this won’t hurt all of us.

    Idiots!!!

  244. What Hillary is doing since conceding her campaign doesn’t make much sense to me. That’s why she should stop campaigning for Obama. She will be blamed for Obama whether she actually campaigns for him or not, so if I was her I wouldn’t worry about it.

    By being “nice” to Sarah Palin, the media and obama campaign could also say that she is being “too nice” to Sarah Palin instead of being negative on her like they want her to be. That is what I meant by being having trouble being nice to Sarah Palin. Otherwise, it does /could look like a snub.

  245. Please that fear tactic and you can’t run your life being afraid. This is about getting power and Obama want to be President and the Democrats doesn’t want to lose.
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    It is always about power. It is the means that cause concern. And it is the context–meaning the financial system which is in dire staights. The mood of the country right now is unstable. People are losing jobs, cant afford to heat their houses, tuition etc. gas prices. We were discussing this the other night. The predictable has suddenly become unpredictable/

  246. Carbynew: I disagree with msm. I think bad times favor a stable republican like mccain, as opposed to taking a flyer with bambi. I think he can separate himself from Bush.

  247. Nancy Pelosi did nothing when Hillary asked Congress and the President to work on this problem from last year she talked about this and what did the American people get?

    The One.

    I’m so tired of this Hillary/Sarah “cat fight” the media wants….this is a distraction and doesn’t do anything to solve our problems.

    Obama is a hysterical fool, I swear he want a panic on wall streel by the way he and others are acting. Where is the cool and calm head…right not it’s all about fear. At least McCain was trying to calm the fear and talk about solutions he wanted to do, not pour gasoline on the fire.

  248. Did you all see Todd Palin’s interview on Greta? I think I liked it best when he said that he knew his wife was going to higher positions but not this soon. What a refreshing sense of confidence and role reversal! The surprise is it is coming from the other side. I also noticed how he always said the right thing but without much effort. This couple has great political instincts or that they are innately good people that they say/feel the right thing all the time. On the other hand, on the Dimocratic side, we have a huge foot in the mouth disease going on with all three (we are somehow spared of Mrs. Biden.) So much for Ivy league education and Washington experience.

  249. I’ll just say that I don’t think Hillary would cancel out on an importance appearance of this nature just because Palin would be present or the media would incite a “cat fight” atmosphere.

    What I am saying is that there is more to this than just that reason. It makes no sense otherwise.

  250. janh – someone above said that it was likely Hillary cancelled because the purpose of the event, the protest, would be overshadowed by the catfight or other speculations the media would create.

    I see that completely consistent with Hillary’s taking the high ground.

  251. Nancy Pelosi did nothing when Hillary asked Congress and the President to work on this problem from last year she talked about this and what did the American people get?
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    Carbynew: in fact the Clintons and Robert Rubin have been pushing for a revamp of the world finacial system since for a decade for precisely this reason. If you have a chance go back at look at the article I posted yesterday on this. We need to get peoples attention on this and I plan to write letters to senators.

  252. # independent2008 Says:
    September 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    What Hillary is doing since conceding her campaign doesn’t make much sense to me. That’s why she should stop campaigning for Obama. She will be blamed for Obama whether she actually campaigns for him or not, so if I was her I wouldn’t worry about it.

    By being “nice” to Sarah Palin, the media and obama campaign could also say that she is being “too nice” to Sarah Palin instead of being negative on her like they want her to be. That is what I meant by being having trouble being nice to Sarah Palin. Otherwise, it does /could look like a snub.
    **********

    I think Hillary is in a position of being bound and gagged as the hostage of the DNC – she cannot overtly criticize the party and the BO campaign for their handling of the Palin situation – it is really: Do as I do, not as I say (because I can’t say it out loud!)…so Hillary has not attacked Palin directly or indirectly on a personal level, or on a sexist level…she is talking about the differences in issues, and she is directed them mostly toward McCain.

  253. actually for once, I would like a president/vp who DID NOT go to Ivy league schools…
    we will have more down to earth folks!

  254. Now, the Obama Network, CNN leads their daily coverage with Cafferty stating that race is the only reason Obama isn’t winning the election.

    Coincidence? Sebelius, Brazille, CNN. All on the same day? Uh..I don’t think so. Jesse Jr and Clyburn can’t be far behind.

  255. Regarding the Hillary cancellation, let’s remember that McCain will be speaking in a coveted spot at the Clinton Global Initiative.

    Hillary appearing with Palin and Bill appearing with McCain would make people think that there is a lack of enthusiasm for B.O. in the Clinton universe. 🙂

  256. For once, I want hillary to just come out with the reasons why she cancelled.
    I do not want her to play safe here anymore…

  257. This playing of the race card is a huge, huge turnoff. People just do not like BO. His arrogance is very off putting.

    I agree, Jessie Jr., and Clyburn will be next. I hate them for doing this.

  258. wbboei Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
    Carbynew: I disagree with msm. I think bad times favor a stable republican like mccain, as opposed to taking a flyer with bambi. I think he can separate himself from Bush.
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    I agree but I do think McCain and the Republicans need to keep talking about up McCain’s 2005 bill and Fannie, Freddie Mac was the darlings of the Obama.

  259. I think Hillary is in a position of being bound and gagged as the hostage of the DNC – she cannot overtly criticize the party and the BO campaign for their handling of the Palin situation – it is really: Do as I do, not as I say (because I can’t say it out loud!)…so Hillary has not attacked Palin directly or indirectly on a personal level, or on a sexist level…she is talking about the differences in issues, and she is directed them mostly toward McCain.
    ———————————————
    Again I think she has found the middle ground between asserting her own views and being a surrogate of the dnc, and will not be responsible when he tanks.

  260. HWC –

    CNN is playing the race card. When Obama can’t get his white surrogates to do this with enough force, then he gets the networks to start the echo-chamber of racism. BO campaign must be at Defcon 2 which must’ve had written instructions that if McCain exceeds BO in national polling, that it’s time to play the race card.

    Remember, Willie Brown in his recent SFGate article said that BO needs to quietly go out there register 12 million new black voters in the South, but he must do so quietly. Well, this is the subtle “whistle”…

    I am not African American, but if I were, I would be offended that BO simplifies this as ONLY about race and presumes that the AA community will come running to him, in the meantime, if he offering anything concrete for the AA community? It’s the new divide and divide strategy of BO – he seems intent on igniting a race-war.

  261. I agree but I do think McCain and the Republicans need to keep talking about up McCain’s 2005 bill and Fannie, Freddie Mac was the darlings of the Obama.
    ——————————————–
    Cabynew: right on! I sent a memo on this to them yesterday, along with some ideas that will turn it around completely on bambi–if they listen.

    Sometimes, we talk and talk and nobody leeesens.

  262. I am an AA and i am pissed, i am so sick of this man. He is nothing but a cry baby. O cares nothing about the AA’s all he wants is our votes. We will be the first ones he throw under the bus

    McCain needs to get out and do a straight talk on racism. Since Bo wants to talk race they need to get those whitey tapes out. He put this out there, so let McCain finish it.

  263. Agreed, neetabug. I mean, here is a man who when he lost to Bobby Rush and realized how popular he was in the white side of town, literally gerrymandered his own district to have less south side AA’s and more wealthy whites. What kind of person does that?

  264. admin Says:
    September 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
    Regarding the Hillary cancellation, let’s remember that McCain will be speaking in a coveted spot at the Clinton Global Initiative.

    Hillary appearing with Palin and Bill appearing with McCain would make people think that “there is a lack of enthusiasm for B.O. in the Clinton universe”.

    Ya think???… lol

  265. I am not African American, but if I were, I would be offended that BO simplifies this as ONLY about race and presumes that the AA community will come running to him, in the meantime, if he offering anything concrete for the AA community? It’s the new divide and divide strategy of BO – he seems intent on igniting a race-war
    *****************************************************
    Obama doesn’t have that much power in the AA community to start a race war…he just doesn’t. What is has is the Illusion of the dream but if he doesn’t produce..he is TOAST!

    Remember, Obama didn’t help blacks he’s using them for the same and the Democratic Convention didn’t help either. Many AA’s hate the personal nation on the attacks against the Clintons but the dream is strong.

    The media is helping the panic that is on Wall Street with their confusing the Campaign rhetoric with Offical treasure actions. I get the feeling the Obama is doing the “race baiting” right now to cool it on the “doom and gloom” talk coming out of the Obamacrats.

  266. About the race card from Obama people, I would like to convey a little impression I had of a friend of ours who is a very loyal Democrat. He will vote for Obama and he is also low information voter because he does not seem to know much of the controversies surrounding him. I appears to me that for him, Obama’s race acts in two ways — one, he has to prove to himself that he could accept an AA candidate; it is as if he fears it if he were to reject that proposition. Two, he thinks much of the negative propaganda is coming from others because of Obama’s race, for instance he does not think Obama being arrogant is bad because he thinks as an AA with a Harvard degree he is allowed to feel arrogant. Our friend is probably the most broad minded person we know and he is not one those elites. Party loyalty and race are two factors working in favor of Obama right now for some Democrats. I always come back to this irony: many of us who rejected Obama on substantive grounds are the ones oblivious to his race because we are not using it to rationalize or penalize like some others and it is an ugly ploy for people like Brazille to use a broad stroke and call all of us who are rejecting Obama as racists. We just have to stand our ground and do what we think is right.

  267. neetabug, Obama is playing the AA community, and has been all along. He is using them as pawns to prop him up, while his loyalties truly lie with his elitist white frat boy handlers and his Wall Street buddies. It’s sad.

    Obama does not care one bit about “the AA community”. I have a feeling that he laughs with Axelgrease and his white cronies at how he has them all locked up, and they will jump when he says jump.

    Just my opinion.

  268. I am black and I am also tired of Obama using the race card. I don’t think that he really cares about the black community as he proclaims to be. I feel that he does just want our votes and will throw us under the bus soon afterwards.

    I am bothered that he does seem to appear at any black functions except maybe those thrown by radical people like Farrakan. He snubbed Tavis Smiley who got threaten because of his comment that Obama should have been there. The Clintons have probably been at more black functions than the Clintons.

    As I said before, I am more bothered that blacks are buying into the “race”, than Obama actually using the race card. Obama will do anything to win, but that doesn’t mean that blacks should just go along with it and make their own judgment.

  269. I’m at the point where I couldn’t care less what anyone says about non-BO voters or racism.

    If that’s what they want to think, let them. It has no effect on the rest of the country and by this time the term has lost all meaning and relevance.

  270. No registration, easy post.

    “24% of those who backed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary now support John McCain, up from 14% on August 26.” This statistic, buried deep within Quinnipiac University polling out of Florida is a reversal of the trend that we’ve been seeing all summer.

    h t t p : / / news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Obama-Will-Face-a-Tough-Time-Keeping-Clinton-Voters-In-The-Face-of-Palin-Power/Article/200809315100627
    No registration, easy post.

  271. I’d like all of you to look at this article. I for one am concerned about the news I read and hear about the economy, however, this article adds a bit of perspective to the broader picture. It doesn’t eleviate all the worry I see, but hysteria need not rule the day.

    money.cnn.com/2008/09/17/news/economy/colvin_recession.fortune/index.htm

  272. HRC pulling out of the Ahmadinijad protest coz of Palin is all over the news.
    hmmmmmm. . . . the consensus is it will hurt dems with the jewish vote. Wonder if HRC figured on that? Whaddaya think?
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    If she went, the press and possibly others would be trying to maneuver an encounter with Palin, which could then be supn into all kinds of nonsense.
    Overall, better be criricized for something simple and verifiable — ie cancelling an appearance.

  273. mariaconz Says:
    What happens when I try to post is that it won’t accept my password OR give me another one!!! It gave me a silly one with nonsense letters and numbers. I thought I changed it to something I could remember, but it won’t accept that one or send me another. Sheesh
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    Try starting all over with a whole new name and email.

    It’s easy to get a new, safe email with Google’s gmail. Also I think blog.pumapac.com was offering email addresses, and maybe pumaparty.com

  274. JanH Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    HillaryforTexas,

    Did they expect a cat fight between Obama and McCain at the 9/11 event?

    I still don’t think that Hillary should stay away for that reason alone, but it’s just my opinion.
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    The press would invent something. They are anxious for any story about Hillary and Palin.

    Also the events were held differently. This is like a big disorganized march. Hillary couldn’t prove that something didn’t happen.

  275. All the press wants is a headline saying

    HILLARY AND PALIN AT Agjawahtsis PROTEST

    then they will make up a story for their readers, and in a big complicacted protest situation HIllary can’t prove it isn’t so.

    What kind of sotry they make up depends on their readiers.

  276. mp Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    actually for once, I would like a president/vp who DID NOT go to Ivy league schools…
    we will have more down to earth folks!
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    Heh. Bill Clinton wasn’t ivy league, he was a Rhodes Scholar to Oxford.

  277. HIllary and Bill are smart NY residents and have many Jewish supporters. I’m sure they’ve taken their advice and will do something appropriate to show support.

    Aren’t there any rallies anywhere else? Like some state where HIllary is supposed to be campaignign anywyay? Maybe she will lead a pro-Jewish rally in Chicago. 🙂

  278. mj Says:

    September 17th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Agreed, neetabug. I mean, here is a man who when he lost to Bobby Rush and realized how popular he was in the white side of town, literally gerrymandered his own district to have less south side AA’s and more wealthy whites. What kind of person does that?

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    First I’ve heard of Obama being behind the gerrymander. Do you have a cite with more detial?

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