Barack Obama Chumps and Next Steps For Hillary Clinton Supporters

This coming week we will expand on what Hillary Clinton supporters should do during the 2008 elections and immediately after.

Today, we like Ricki Lieberman’s call to “support ‘Down Ticket’ Clinton Democrats (we will only support “Clinton Democrats“):

In the next two weeks, Senator Clinton is appearing at events for Sheila Jackson Lee (TX) and Kirsten Gillibrand (NY) who are in high profile races where we need to give our support, now. I have also included an event for Kay Hagan who is in a tight race with Elizabeth Dole (NC), and an excerpt from the Boston Herald on the Ed O’Reilly – John Kerry primary contest on September 16. Our support is all the more important because it appears that by refusing to take public funding, BO is funneling off money which should be going to state Democratic parties and down ticket candidates. Finally, please let me know of other contests where we can thank Senator Clinton and support down ticket Clinton Democrats.

GO GO GO! Ricki

1) CONGRESSWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON LEE – TX IN HOUSTON ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1.30 PM A reception to thank Senator Clinton and support Sheila Jackson Lee with funds to keep her long held seat. Please see the attached invitation and contact Ann MacNaughton at ann.macnaughton@gmail.com for more information.

If you cannot attend, please make a contribution.

2) CONGRESSWOMAN KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND – NY. SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON and FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE MADELEINE ALBRIGHT A conversation in support of UPSTATE GRASSROOTS VICTORY 2008 and CONGRESSWOMAN KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2008, 7:45 AM – 9:00 AM (Registration opens at 7:00 AM), HILTON NEW YORK 1335 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS (AT 53RD STREET) NYC, light breakfast served, TICKETS START AT $500 ($250 Young Professional/Student seating – limited availability) online at www.upstatevictory.com JOIN THE EVENT COMMITTEE! Host: Raise/contribute $2,500 (includes reserved Premium group seating by table & program listing) Vice Chair: raise/contribute $5,000 (includes reserved Champion group seating by table, program listing & VIP reception); Chair: Raise/contribute $10,000 (includes reserved Honored Guest group seating by table, program listing & VIP reception) *For more information or to join the Event Committee, please contact Stephanie@KirstenGillibrand.com or call 917.952.5622.

3) KAY HAGAN for US SENATE – NC LATEST POLL: [Kay Hagan (d) 43%; Elizabeth Dole (r) 42%; Chris Cole (l) 6%; Undecided 9%]

A reception honoring State Senator Kay Hagan Thursday, September 25, 2008 Host Reception: 5:30-6:00 p.m.  General Reception: 6:00-7:30 p.m.at the home of Joanne and Tim Rohde, 317 Cambridge Woods Way, Raleigh, North Carolina Sponsor $2300, Patron $1000, Friend $500, Guest $250

To join the host committee or to RSVP, contactMelissa Midgett at Melissa@kayhagan.com or (336) 617-5301.

RSVP and contribute online at http://www.actblue.com/page/raleigh

And finally,

On the Ed O’Reilly – John Kerry contest: The Editorial Staff of the Boston Herald writes: “There is a reason 24-year-incumbent Sen. John Kerry has an opponent in this Tuesday’s Democratic primary, and frankly it has little to do with the war in Iraq and Kerry’s convoluted and frequently tortured stand on it.”

O’Reilly is an engaging populist with a down-home touch. … he has worked hard to build the kind of bridges with communities and local officials that Kerry has for too long neglected. When was the last time (or the first time) John Kerry attended the Leominster Stroll or visited a firehouse or a ham and bean supper in the Berkshires?We will say what so many people in Massachusetts have whispered for so very long: John Kerry needs to pay far more attention to the people who have sent him to Washington year after year than he has in the past. And if voters want to send him that message by
casting a vote for Ed O’Reilly – well, we can’t disagree.”

Please call Rebecca Kennedy at 617 924-2008 to make a contribution, do visibility, or work the polls on Tuesday.

A bigger than expected vote for Ed O’Reilly in Massachusetts will send terror sweats throughout the unDemocratic Party. The election is this Tuesday, September 16. Hillary Clinton won the Massachusetts primary despite Kennedy, Kerry and Patrick. Let’s make some noise in Massachusetts this Tuesday as the first step to reviving the FDR coalition truly Democratic Party.

* * * * *

Things are getting worse for Obama and his chumps.

In a briefing to journalists this week, David Plouffe, the Democratic nominee’s campaign manager, made clear that his initial prediction of 18 “swing” states being within Mr Obama’s reach was wildly optimistic.

Instead, the “follow the money” rule of politics – tracking where advertising dollars are being spent and where the candidates are visiting- confirms that Mr Obama and John McCain are fixated principally on just seven swing or “purple” states.

Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico are the key battleground states. The newest swing state is Virginia, Republican in presidential races since 1964 but now potentially within Mr Obama’s reach because of the increasingly affluent northern Virginia suburbs of Washington DC.

Unfortunately for Obama we have six presidential polls today.

Minnesota, usually “Blue” is according to one poll Obama is ahead by 2 and another poll has Minnesota completely tied. Obama was counting on Minnesota as “in the bag”.

A Nevada Rasmussen poll has McCain ahead 49 to 46. A SurveyUSA Nevada poll has McCain ahead 49 to 47.

South Dakota Rasmussen poll McCain leads 54 to 37

In Utah it’s McCain 62%, Obama 24%.

* * *

The bad poll news for Obama means Big Media must work overtime to prop up the Big Media tool Barack Obama. The New York Times does its part today publishing a Palin hit piece called Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes. This is truly shocking news and analysis! What could be more troubling? Imagine if the headline was Once Elected, Palin Hired Foes and Lashed Friends.

* * *

Hillary Hater Michael Goodwin today laughs at Obama’s Big Blunder. After asking why Obama is renewing his vows to get tough (“dig that hole deeper, harder and faster”), Goodwin asks what happened to that post-partisan uniter? Taking note of the Obama campaigns calls for Big Media to beat up on Governor Palin instead of explaining what Obama means by “change”, Goodwin states By all means, more arrogance toward the heartland. Just what Obama needs.

* * *

Obama fangirl Clarence Page advises Obama that he has lost his momentum and his mojo. The Page solution? A repeat of the failed McCain=Bush; and, surprise!, put the Clintons to good use (even as Page threatens to blame the Clintons when Obama loses). Put “racists” to good use Clarence? Try again.

* * *

Harvard Obama shill Cass Sunstein waves the red flag in front of the bull on Roe v. Wade. Hillary Hater Stuart Taylor says don’t worry about Roe v. Wade. Taylor joins Big Pink in noting the role of a Democratic Senate (and if the Democratic Senate does not protect Roe v. Wade, then why vote for Dems?). Taylor writes it’s very doubtful that McCain could get a Democratic Senate to confirm any nominee who is likely to overrule Roe.

* * *

An Ipsos poll has McCain leading and Obama chumps are touting the poll because it also shows that most Americans think Joe Biden has more experience than Governor Palin. That might or might not be. But, polls also show that Americans think Palin is more experienced than Obama. Obama chumps don’t like that pointed out.

* * *

The Page is reporting Obama raised $66 million in August. Probably spent about $55 million. It’s Obama’s best month yet. Problem is Obama only has $77 million cash on hand. Obama is also spending money to raise money. Obama’s best is not good enough. In July Obama raised $51 million but wasted $57 million. Obama chumps should also know that all that money spent in Missouri, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, Montana, and probably Virginia, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Ohio, Michigan, etc. was wasted money. Obama’s goal was $300 million for the campaign and at least $100 million for the DNC. $77 million is not even close. Keep sending in that money, Chumps.

* * *

Sheri Rivlin and Allan Rivlin try their best to coach Obama and take one for the team. The Rivlins too think the Clintons are salvation and urge Obama to go on “offense”. The main point of the Rivlins is that Obama should open up a big enough lead “to sustain the anticipated McCain counter attack”.

The Rivlins have a seance for the 2004 election and the “stolen election of 2000.” And warn the same thing could happen in 2008. The Rivlins write, By winning the starting job as Democratic nominee, Barack Obama, accepted the responsibility to do his best to lead the team to victory and the team’s goal for this election should be this sort of dominance.

The Rivlins have a misunderstanding of what happened during the primaries. They write, For Democrats to have anything short of night terrors, Obama needs to do in the General Election what he was able to do to secure the Democratic Nomination, and that is to get far enough ahead that he is able to weather a storm like Jeremiah Wright and still prevail.

The Rivlins need to reexamine history. Obama did not weather the Jeremiah Wright storm nor secure the Democratic nomination. Obama was selected by Dean/Brazile/Pelosi/Kennedy/Kerry and then dragged across the finish line even though it was clear to all, except co-conspirator Big Media, that the Wright “storm” had not gone away and that Obama was incapable of uniting the Democratic Party, securing white working class votes, had no appeal to women voters, could not win in big electoral vote Democratic states, and by arrogant demeanor and history not qualified to be president.

* * *

Politico has 5 reasons why McCain has pulled ahead.

1. “McCain as a ‘change agent’
2. The center shifts: Independents move to McCain
3. The economic gap narrows
4. Palin narrows the enthusiasm gap
5. Democrats voter ID edge dulls”

We’ll add another reason:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

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247 thoughts on “Barack Obama Chumps and Next Steps For Hillary Clinton Supporters

  1. thanks admin,

    CLICK YOUR HILLS THREE TIMES, AND REPEAT AFTER ME: SEND OBAMA BACK TO CHICAGO…

    SEND OBAMA BACK TO CHICAGO…

    SEND OBAMA BACK TO CHICAGO…

    its hard to believe our wish is coming true, but it really is. THANKS ADMIN….

  2. Thanks Admin for another SPOT ON article!

    I just finished reading the previous thread and i must say……YOU ALL ARE AMAZING!!!

    I am pretty much a newbie to politics, this is my first cycle of getting actively involved….better late than never eh??
    But i do wish i had all the vast knowledge that most of you seem to have so i could participate more in the conversation. but it is such an honor to come here every day and learn from all of you

    Thank you to everyone who comes here, you make this forum GREAT!

  3. Very timely and informative Admin!

    I can’t help thinking that Kerry is going to pull some Obama’s best and most corrupt actions to win again. I really hope that O’Reilly beats him big time. What a message that would send!

  4. november 4, 2008. wonder what the reaction will be when reality truly does hit the fan. will the bots turn to civil disobedience, or quietly return to their dungeons and dragons?

  5. alcina,

    Assuming that the false great one does not succeed, I think heavy depression will set in for them. I also think that the “race card” will be used more than ever. The civil rights movement will shatter for a while and extreme anger will remain. And those obamabots who never got involved before this election will move towards sixtie’s type gang warfare.

    Obama won’t take defeat lying down. I’m sure he see’s himself as the new MLK.

  6. Admin> a comment from your previous thread inspires this objection:

    “Bright Hollywood minds” have continued an intellectual assault both in writing and on videotape, against Governor Sarah Palin.

    Objection your Honor:” bright hollywood minds” assumes facts not in evidence.

    P.S. I know you were kiddding.

  7. This spells trouble

    Susa Minnesota

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=987c56ab-af73-49dc-8e45-f7ccbcfe7411

    In an election for President of the United States in Minnesota today, 09/12/08, 53 days to Election Day, Barack Obama and John McCain finish effectively even, according to this exclusive SurveyUSA poll conducted for KSTP-TV in Minneapolis, WDIO-TV in Duluth, KAAL-TV in Rochester, and KSAX-TV in Alexandria. Today, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 47%, within the survey’s 3.7 percentage point margin of sampling error. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll released one month ago, Obama and McCain are each up two points overall. Little has changed, and what changes have occurred appear to have offset one another.

    Among men, McCain had led by 3, now leads by 5.
    Among women, Obama had led by 9, still leads by 9.
    Among voters who are younger than Barack Obama, Obama had led by 4, now leads by 5.
    Among voters who are older than John McCain, a flip: McCain had led by 4, now trails by 4.
    Among voters who are in-between the two candidates’ ages, a flip in the opposite direction; Obama had led by 3, now trails by 3.

    1 in 10 Republicans cross over to vote for Obama; 1 in 10 Democrats cross over to vote for McCain; Independents favor McCain by 9 points, up from 2 points last month — but at the same time, the percentage of Minnesota’s likely voters who identify themselves as Independents has fallen from 24% last month to 16% today, blunting the impact and increasing the margin of error associated with this 7 point McCain climb.

    In NE Minnesota, McCain today leads by 14 points, a flip from last month, when Obama led by 8. In Western MN, Obama had led by 5, now leads by 3, an effective tie. In Southern Minnesota, the two candidates remain tied. In the Twin Cities area, Obama moves from a tie to a 6-point lead.

  8. Why isnt Obama ahead in Minnesota?

    Minneapolis, WDIO-TV in Duluth, KAAL-TV in Rochester, and KSAX-TV in Alexandria. Today, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 47%, within the survey’s 3.7 percentage point margin of sampling error.

    Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll released one month ago, Obama and McCain are each up two points overall. Little has changed, and what changes have occurred appear to have offset one another. Among men, McCain had led by 3, now leads by 5. Among women, Obama had led by 9, still leads by 9. Among voters who are younger than Barack Obama, Obama had led by 4, now leads by 5. Among voters who are older than John McCain, a flip: McCain had led by 4, now trails by 4. Among voters who are in-between the two candidates’ ages, a flip in the opposite direction; Obama had led by 3, now trails by 3.

    1 in 10 Republicans cross over to vote for Obama; 1 in 10 Democrats cross over to vote for McCain; Independents favor McCain by 9 points, up from 2 points last month — but at the same time, the percentage of Minnesota’s likely voters who identify themselves as Independents has fallen from 24% last month to 16% today, blunting the impact and increasing the margin of error associated with this 7 point McCain climb.

    In NE Minnesota, McCain today leads by 14 points, a flip from last month, when Obama led by 8. In Western MN, Obama had led by 5, now leads by 3, an effective tie. In Southern Minnesota, the two candidates remain tied. In the Twin Cities area, Obama moves from a tie to a 6-point lead.

  9. Minnesota.

    Today, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 47%, within the survey’s 3.7 percentage point margin of sampling error. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll released one month ago, Obama and McCain are each up two points overall. Little has changed, and what changes have occurred appear to have offset one another. Among men, McCain had led by 3, now leads by 5. Among women, Obama had led by 9, still leads by 9. Among voters who are younger than Barack Obama, Obama had led by 4, now leads by 5. Among voters who are older than John McCain, a flip: McCain had led by 4, now trails by 4. Among voters who are in-between the two candidates’ ages, a flip in the opposite direction; Obama had led by 3, now trails by 3.

    1 in 10 Republicans cross over to vote for Obama; 1 in 10 Democrats cross over to vote for McCain; Independents favor McCain by 9 points, up from 2 points last month — but at the same time, the percentage of Minnesota’s likely voters who identify themselves as Independents has fallen from 24% last month to 16% today, blunting the impact and increasing the margin of error associated with this 7 point McCain climb.

    In NE Minnesota, McCain today leads by 14 points, a flip from last month, when Obama led by 8. In Western MN, Obama had led by 5, now leads by 3, an effective tie. In Southern Minnesota, the two candidates remain tied. In the Twin Cities area, Obama moves from a tie to a 6-point lead.

  10. janh

    great. guess we’ll have to live with “B-HO the Martyr” after his loss. how pathetic. ugh, i just want him to go away.

  11. alcina,

    i only know one thing, dems broke it, and its going to take more than humpty dumpty, to put it back together again….

    race relations, class warfare, and ethics, will be in turmoil, when the dust settles…

  12. Well so much for that, Obama way short.

    Developing: Obama Raises $66 Million In August, But Spends $54 Million net total 12 million.

    The Obama Campaign, making sure that the release came after the Sunday Talk Shows, announced that they had hauled in a record $66 million in August. Although this amount is a private fundraising record, the amount fell far short of the more than $100 million the campaign expected. The Obama campaign’s largest haul came on the day after John McCain’s announcement of Sarah Palin as his Vice-Presidential nominee. Publicly and privately party officials have shown concern in recent weeks when the campaign failed to raise the $40-$50 million that they hoped would stem from his Invesco acceptance speech.

    With today’s announcement, the Obama campaign released that they had $77 million of cash-on-hand, up from the $65 million that they reported in July. As a result, that means that the Obama campaign spent $54 million in the month of August, nearly matching the $56 million that they spent in July. This is a major concern to officials within the Obama campaign considering that with McCain’s $47 million haul in august and $84 million infusion, Obama must raise a minimum of $60 million just to match John McCain. Although it is likely that Obama will raise the $60 million, he may continue to play catch-up as record-breaking contributions are flowing into the RNC, who reported $115 million of cash on hand on the day following the convention. At a minimum, the financing race will be even by the end of October, leaving many to question Obama’s decision to flip on campaign financing. If the fundraising race does end up even, McCain will hold an advantage as his campaign is not bloated with paid campaign advisers and staffers; thus leaving more money for get out the vote efforts.

  13. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/The_RNCs_cash_advantage.html?showall

    DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney says the party raised more than $17 million, and has $17.5 million on hand, having spend more than $28 million last month, largely on the Democrats’ ground game.

    That cash figure is a fraction of the $110 a Republican official says it has, which includes transfers of money McCain is no longer allowed to spend and money from state fundraising vehicles.

    The disparity shows the Republicans’ continued edge with the wealthy donors who can give in five-figure chunks.

    The party money, though, is not worth as much as the campaigns’ hard money, because it can’t be spent as directly on the campaign, particularly when it comes to media. That was illustrated last month by RNC-funded ads that included confusing, digressive attacks on random Democratic senators, including Byron Dorgan, to fulfill campaign finance rules.

    The GOP money will, however, finance an extensive field effort.

  14. Exactly so while McCain gets on campaigning, the GOP has about 200 million to use in downticket and GOTV. Obama is soo screwed. The GOP figure heard today is actually approximately 200 million.

    The DNC is left flailing in the wind whil the RNC can outspend them 11:1

    So McCain has effectively this month between him and the RNC

    284 Million

    Obama and the DNC

    DNC 17.5 Million
    Raised 66 Million
    spent 54 million in august.

    So basically, The republicans have enough money to wipe the floor with democrats.

  15. alcina Says:
    november 4, 2008. wonder what the reaction will be when reality truly does hit the fan. will the bots turn to civil disobedience, or quietly return to their dungeons and dragons
    ==============

    ROLL FOR INITIATIVE! How dare you insult the INT of dungeons and dragons players!

  16. The DNC have no money to support downticket DEMs and Bambi needs all his cash to fight McCain while the republicans have bundles.

    The DNC is bonkers, they should have made Obama take public financing and they would have gotten about 120 million from Bambi and Bambi would have 84 million to figt with but they are stupid to see they messed it up.

  17. wbboei Says:
    Objection your Honor:” bright hollywood minds” assumes facts not in evidence.

    ==================

    LOL! And can you object to an oxymoron other than an Irish bull?

  18. Well the only good thing about Hillary still being in debt is that none of her money went to bambi or the dnc ever when the campaign finished because that would have made me ill.

  19. saw this at ‘audacity of deception and hype’, there are a few i take exception to but a good list over all:
    *************

    In a direct and honest head to head comparison of Palin versus Obama -— I can think of a number of categories where Sarah Palin would be superior to Obama….

    – Undeniable or disputable love and loyalty to America.
    – Undeniable or disputable non-Muslim background or roots.
    – No felons as close friends or advisers.
    – No minister/mentor who is a black racist rabble rouser.
    – No American Terrorists as friend, advisor and fund raiser.
    – No convicted felon who assisted in a self admitted “bone head” real estate deal.
    – No suspicious money coming from Hamas or the PLO…
    – No endorcements from the leaders of Islamic or weeny European government leaders.
    – Never voted to kill babies who survived an abortion.
    – Never criticized America military, or doubted our RIGHT to pursue and kill our enemy wherever we may find them.
    – Never endorsed or praised the pimp Mayor of Detroit, who is now going to jail.
    – Not a close friend or admirer of “Calypso Louie” Farrakhan.
    – Not ashamed to wear the American Flag pin or salute the flag of our nation.
    – Never supported Washington, D.C. law banning the right to own a firearm and keep it in one’s home – which USSC overruled.
    – Never made a trip to Pakistan as a “student”..
    – Never attended classes on the Koran at an Islamic school.
    – Never held a passport from Indonesia.
    – Never admitted doing drugs, including cocaine.
    – Never accused of having a homosexual relationship.
    – Never worked within the Chicago Political Machine.
    – Never confronted the corruption in the city government, he “served” as a community organizer.
    – Never named the most Leftist member of any group, as Obama has been named in the Senate.
    – Palin’s husband quit a job in the Oil Fields to avoid conflict of interest – Obama’s wife accepted a $300,000 salary from a hospital after her husband secured a large “ear mark” for the same hospital..
    – Palin has been proud and defensive of America – her ENTIRE adult life, contrary to Obama and his wife.
    – I could go on…….but you get the drift…

    Obama is worse that a black racist empty suit..
    There is NOTHING in his life of “accomplishments” to indicate this angry arrogant man is WORTHY or TRUSTWORTHY to even retain his position in the Senate to say nothing of being the President….

    Credit goes to river rat at Free Republic

  20. So Hillary is fighting for the down dems that supporter her, even though her debt is still big. Obama isn’t fighting for the down dems who support him.

    Says a lot for character.

  21. SHV Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    Wrong Newspaper..It was the Trib. “Obama knows his way around a ballot”
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story?page=4
    ==============

    Yes, it was the Tribune. Basically it was the same segment of the profile, which they origially published under the title/header:
    “Barack Obama: Showing his bare knuckles
    In first campaign, Obama revealed hard-edged, uncompromising side in eliminating party rivals”. It is still online at http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0704030881apr04,0,6678847.story

    I do not trust the version with the sanitized title, “knows his way around a ballot”, as they may have sanitized other things too. But for convenience I’ll use your quotes below except where noted.

    From the “bare knuckles” version.
    The day after New Year’s 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.
    There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city’s South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama’s four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

    From your version:
    City authorities had just completed a massive, routine purge of unqualified names that eliminated 15,871 people from the 13th District rolls, court records show.
    Ewell and other Obama rivals had relied on early 1995 polling sheets to verify the signatures of registered voters—but Obama’s challenges were decided at least in part using the most recent, accurate list, records show.

    “Had just completed” and“The day after New Year’s” suggests that the new list had become effective at the first of 1996 and was not in effect when the signatures were gathered by all candidates during 1995. Was it even available to read earlier? Since there is no mention of Obama’s own signatures being tested against the new list, he may have just been gambling that the 15,000+ voters removed would take out enough of Palmer’s “hastily gathered” signatures (only about 800 valid signatures were needed, iirc, and she may not have gathered enough extra signatures).

    If the new list was not even available to read at the time when the signatures were collected, it is hardly the candidates’ fault that they did not use it. In fairness their petitions should have been checked against the then-current lists, or they should have been given extra time to gather new signatures under the new list.

    Leafing through scrapbooks in his South Shore apartment, Askia, a perennially unsuccessful candidate, acknowledges that he paid Democratic Party precinct workers $5 a sheet for some of the petitions, and now suspects they used a classic Chicago ruse of passing the papers among themselves to forge the signatures. “They round-tabled me,” Askia said.

    Paying signature collectors is legal and is common practice. Askia did not ask for forged signatures but later suspected that his collectors had delivered signatures forged by “round-tabling.”

    Palmer to this day does not concede the flaws that Obama’s team found in her signatures. She maintains that she could have overcome the Obama team’s objections and stayed on the ballot if she had more time and resources.

    Some of the ‘flaws’ that could get a signature rejected are things like having moved, address in a different form (eg “St” instead of “Street), name/signature in a different form (eg with or without initials), printed name and signed name on the wrong lines, collector not having filled out his side of the form correctly, etc.

    Regardless of the details, he PREVENTED A VOTE so as to eliminate a “beloved elder stateswoman” who had been doing good work for his own cause in a “safe seat.” He got the seat, then abandoned it himself (in 2000 iirc to unsuccessfuly try to unseat a higher official). So Obama’s cause had lost a safe seat and a good stateswoman, for no gain.

    For those with strong stomachs, the story is worth reading entire, for perspective and especially for Obama’s comments justifying his actions.

  22. Wondering Altmire in PA rec’d something like 25,000 from the obama and pelosi pacs, would he have rec’d more from a healthy DNC?

  23. Thanks Admin for giving us some kind of a guidance as to what we can do to bring back our party, the Democrats, and berid of the party of the Elites.

  24. I think that “Hit piece” by Charlie Gibson will sting for awhile unless McCain campaign push back some more at ABC editing her responses to fit their narrative of some wacko Christian Conservative.

    The Republican need to highlight ABC editing of Gov. Palin responses to negatively portray her. They want to media to stop cutting off her answers and taking them out of content…or they will start video taping thei interviews with Gov. Palin have with the media to show how much her answer have been taken out of context.

  25. Admin, thanks. Time is now to bring back our party, the one that we, and Hillary, belongs to, not the party of the Elites. I just got the book, “Obama Nation,” in the mail.

  26. I wonder if Palin has the unedited version of the interview. And if so is it her property to do with as she sees fit. If not but the transcript is available perhaps the RNC could hire actors and post it online saying the interview what you didn’t get to hear. Doubt Tina Fey would be willing but damn she was good. US WEEKLY has a headline saying fey mocks palin. Disgusting SNL mocks everyone.

  27. turndownobama-com Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    ***********
    Thanks for the clarifications. I guess I don’t have much sympathy for any Chicago politicians and if they want to eat each other to get ahead well…My only emotional investment in the Chicago Political Scene is to do everything that I can to prevent it spreading to the WH.

  28. Some of the Hopium eaters pretending to be analysts are finally forced to question their incense fogged “reality”. The below has some big fundamental flaws, but at least some are realizing that “Messiah from Chicago” is a phony baloney who is making mistakes. They are still in denial but starting to blink as reality sunbeams hit their eyeballs.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/was-obamas-50-22-state-strategy-mistake.html

    Was Obama’s 50 22-State Strategy a Mistake?

    Some scattered thoughts on the ponderable above:

    1. Thave been some particular resource allocation decisions made by the Obama campaign that I’ve been skeptical of from the get-go. The one that always stood out was Georgia, with the criticism stemming from Electoral Portfolio Theory 101. [snip]

    2. Arguably also, the Obama campaign was too eager to defend certain states, such as Maine and perhaps Washington.

    3. There is also one state that the Obama campaign arguably missed from his group of 22, which is West Virginia. [snip]

    4. If the intention was to draw resources out of the McCain campaign, Steve Schmidt certainly didn’t take the bait, never really venturing into states like Indiana or Montana.

    5. But clearly, the post-convention electoral map appears to have been affected heavily by the choice of Sarah Palin, which fired up the Republican base and returned traditionally red states back to the red column. [snip]

    6. Indeed, perhaps one of the reasons that McCain picked Palin was precisely because the Republicans were having trouble in states like Montana and Indiana. [snip]

    7. One further point to consider is whether polling generally becomes more partisan as the election nears. That is, was it in some sense inevitable that North Dakota would turn more red? [snip]

    8. Keep in mind that the resource allocation choices made by the Obama campaign aren’t necessarily focused on the goal of getting him elected President. They may also be motivated by a desire to expand the party’s reach in future election cycles, or to help Democrats in downballot races.

    9. Finally, this entire discussion is premature to some extent, since we don’t yet know to what if any extent Obama’s ground game advantages will be worth something. [snip]

  29. Just idly woo-wooing….

    As to what Obama will do if he finds that he is certain to become the McGovern of 2008….

    Unless his backers hold him in place, he might resign in favor of Hillary on top (hope she turns him down, even on Hillary/Biden).

    He might start pre-emptively blaming racism and everyone in sight … retire into heroic martyrdom as a figurehead … invoke the classic fate of messiahs at the hands of small town philistines….

    Somehow I don’t quite see him soberly trying again in 2012, if soundly defeated by a national popular vote for McCain. It’s only if forced to concede to HIllary that he might try again….

    It’s not like he had any principles or policies he really wanted to work for. It’s all about symbolism and this is our moment, our once in a lifetime and his claimed ‘judgement’. Cotton candy doesn’t warm over well.

  30. Obama had plenty of opportunities, he just thought he was “above” them all. One line I like what Palin said was, “you cannot say one thing in Scraton, PA and say the opposite in San Francisco, CA,” to expect to win

  31. Continuing….

    I’m not sure how many of Obama’s (US) backers really want him to win. He’s knocked out Hillary, which imo brought the most money and Pelosi type support.

    Still, some of BO’s GOP secret funders might begin to fear him less than a reforming Barracuda….

    Fascinating switch! Some GOP backed Obama to take out Hillary, but her strength caused the GOP to nominate a REAL reformer to take out the phoney tool Obama….

    I wonder if this could escalate any further….

    HIllary/Palin 2012, anyone?

  32. admin Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Some of the Hopium eaters pretending to be analysts are finally forced to question their incense fogged “reality”. The below has some big fundamental flaws, but at least some are realizing that “Messiah from Chicago” is a phony baloney who is making mistakes. They are still in denial but starting to blink as reality sunbeams hit their eyeballs.
    ***********
    ***********
    That $66 million, even if it is a “real” number, is a big jolt of reality. It is $34 million short of what they said they needed to compete. They now have to raise $234 million Sept. and Oct. and unlike McCain, they have to burn cash to fund the money raising machinery. Not taking public financing is going to be one of the many major FUs of the Obama campaign. couldn’t have happen to a more deserving group.

  33. Some may find it silly but I think reenacting the Palin interview with Gibson might be very effective. The actual transcript is available but for people less passionnate about politics drudging through the reading is a chore. And unless it is reported that things were edited and taken out of context why would someone even look for it. A couple of actors going over the script placed on youtube preceeded by a McCain ad that says see what she really said and don’t believe the hype.

  34. basil9 Says:
    Guess how BO became prez of the Harvard Law Review?
    ding ding ding ding ding.
    He played the race card.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74877
    =====================

    I don’t read World Net Daily, but there’s some support for that theory in the profiles I’ve got linked from ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground , notably the long Chi Trib biography, I’ve forgotten the name of hte sgment. Go to the Chi Trib page that lists them all.

  35. basil9 – I scanned through the article on the BO and the Harvard Law Review and basically how he got the right hand man of one of the world’s richest men to help him get into Harvard and into position of the Law Review Editor, given the likelihood that his grades at Columbia were dismal…and I have concluded:

    even I have more Executive experience than BO!

  36. CTV,

    the MAIN point I came away with is that there was a lot of racial tension that year caused by some
    AA professor and the students were intent on proving they weren’t racist and so they elected
    BO.

    I will find the passage and paste it.

  37. henry Says:
    Some may find it silly but I think reenacting the Palin interview with Gibson might be very effective. The actual transcript is available but for people less passionnate about politics drudging through the reading is a chore.
    ======================

    The printed transcript is on the web at a couple of places, with the omitted parts in bold. Easy to skim for them.

    Since the transcript is up, I hope the actual video will come out too. Then McCain can make his own editec version. 🙂

  38. Guess how BO became prez of the Harvard Law Review?
    ding ding ding ding ding.
    He played the race card.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74877

    “Obama’s timing, however, was better than his writing. In the same spring 1990 term that he would stand for the presidency of the HLR, the Harvard Law School found itself embroiled in an explosive racial brouhaha.

    Black firebrand law professor Derrick Bell was demanding that the Harvard Law School appoint a black woman to the law faculty.

    This protest would culminate in vigils and protests by the racially sensitive student body, in the course of which Obama would compare the increasingly absurd Bell to Rosa Parks.

    Feeling the pressure, HLR editors wanted to elect their first African-American president. Obama had an advantage. Spared the legacy of slavery and segregation, and having grown up in a white household, he lacked the hard edge of many of his black colleagues.”

  39. basil9 Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    ************
    As with a lot of Obama’s career, it was right place at the right time. He didn’t play the race card..it was played for him. Since Obama doesn’t write anything..there is now way that her “earned” his to get on the HLR.
    Here is part of the selection process…notice that there are a few “non-competitive slots”.

    “Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis. Some of these discretionary slots may be used to implement the Review’s affirmative action policy.

    http: / / http://www.harvardlawreview.org/membership.shtm

  40. On CNN’s Late Edition, Bill Richardson averred that McCain and Obama should be debating the economy. Tim Pawlenty pointed out that Obama’s campaign and surrogates wanted to talk not about the economy, but about Palin’s 17-year-old daughter. Both candidates have a paucity of foreign policy experience, but Richardson declared that Obama has had “international experience as a human being with his background.” (I hope he’s skeptical about the water-walking bit, though.)

    WTF does this mean : Obama has had “international experience as a human being with his background.” bwahahahaha more ridiculous than ever.

  41. turndownobama
    bet the footage is the property of ABC
    they sure as hell aren’t going to admit that they put a spin on it. which is way I say act it out. If I came home after working and saw an ad on jeopardy from the McCain camp which stated hear what Palin actually said and then referred me to a web site even if just out of curiosity I’d check it out. Juxtaposing her real answers with what ABC broadcast could also prove highly effective.

  42. Richardson than said that Obama is a change agent because he’s known as a “healer” who “brings people together.” Pawlenty pointed out that the Dem Congress is half as popular as the President but that Obama is toeing their line almost all of the time; this is not “change,” he argued.

    Richardson is finally off his rocker.

  43. basil9..thanks for linking that…Don’t the Obots claim that Obama was the first AA on the Harvard Law Review? Well it’s just another fiction in Obama’s fictional life. The first AA on the HLR worked his butt of to get on it and work to better the lives of the AA community for the rest of his career. Something like that “Southern Preacher” that Obama talked about.

    Charles Hamilton Houston (September 3, 1895–April 22, 1950) was an African American lawyer, Dean of Howard University Law School and NAACP Litigation Director who helped play a role in dismantling the Jim Crow laws and helped train future Supreme Court justice Thurgood Marshall. He was educated at Amherst College, where he was valedictorian, and at Harvard Law School, where he graduated cum laude and was a member of the Harvard Law Review. Known as “The Man Who Killed Jim Crow.”[1], he played a role in nearly every civil rights case before the Supreme Court between 1930 and Brown v. Board of Education (1954). Houston’s plan to attack and defeat Jim Crow segregation by using the inequality of the “separate but equal” doctrine (from the Supreme Court’s Plessy v. Ferguson decision) as it pertained to public education in the United States was the masterstroke that brought about the landmark Brown decision.
    http: / / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hamilton_Houston

    What an amazing man.

  44. Independents swing toward McCain
    By: John P. Avlon
    September 14, 2008 01:56 PM EST

    Independent voters — the largest and fastest-growing segment of the American electorate — were always going to determine the winner of this election.

    And in contrast to past contests like 2004, where independents viewed the choice between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry as a vote for the candidate they disliked least, independents had a dream campaign in ‘08: two compelling nominees who ran against the polarizing establishments of their own parties with explicitly post-partisan appeals. It was a year in which Karl Rove’s play-to-the-base politics seemed to be on the ash heap of history.

    In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

    Since the GOP convention and his selection of the Alaska governor as his running mate, McCain has changed a months-long tie among independents into a 52 to 37 percent advantage. Support for McCain among self-described “conservative Democrats” has jumped 10 points, to 25 percent, signaling the shift among swing voters to McCain.

    The candidate’s surge tracks the script the campaign had written for the party convention. Joe Lieberman’s sleepy but substantively centrist speech was the preamble to McCain reframing the Republican Party around national security, fiscal conservatism and corruption reform. The result: he elevation of the independent maverick.

    Both McCain and Palin avoided almost any mention of the right-wing social issues that are a wedge between the GOP and most Independents’ political beliefs. Palin may prove to be a deeply polarizing figure to swing voters and suburban women, but for the time being she has shaken up Independents’ assumptions about the GOP—on the surface, it does not look like Dick Cheney’s party anymore.

    McCain’s credibility with independents goes back more than a decade, and it’s far deeper than a veep pick. McCain was independents’ favorite political figure for most of this decade — he fought against Karl Rove in 2000 and Tom DeLay’s pork-barrel-spending, corrupt conservative Congress in the road up to ’06.

    He has a heroic record of reaching across the aisle to forge bipartisan compromise against an ideological establishment that encouraged the opposite. For independents, this is profile-in-courage-type stuff.

    But independents’ identification with John McCain suffered when he began this presidential campaign with a political embrace of the Bush administration and rapprochement with Jerry Falwell and others on the right whom McCain described in 2000 as “agents of intolerance.”

    The Bush administration is deeply disliked by many independents and centrists because they feel duped. Bush campaigned in 2000 with an explicitly centrist message as a “compassionate conservative,” but he governed as a polarizing partisan conservative.

    While most independents can be described as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, the Bush administration has been the opposite: fiscally liberal and socially conservative.

    And it’s McCain’s inevitable association with the Bush administration record that Obama needs to hammer home in the attempt to regain his edge with independent voters, to the tune of The Who’s “Won’t Get Fooled Again.”

    He’s connected with them before: Obama’s appeal to independents was one of the most important but least appreciated elements in his triumph over Hillary Clinton. Independents’ strong preference for Obama — 49 to 24 percent in a March NBC/Wall Street Journal poll — proved key to winning delegates in open primary states like Virginia, where independents made up 22 percent of the vote and Obama won their support by a 2-to-1 margin on his way to a 64-35 blowout victory.

    But in the midsummer swing to the general election, Obama was forced to spend precious political capital corralling Hillary Clinton supporters, uniting the party instead of uniting the country.

    The pivotal centrist voters who found plenty of Democratic Leadership Conference-penned policy evidence to support Bill Clinton in 1992 were left looking for the substance behind Obama’s inspirational postpartisan style.

    To reconnect with independent voters, Obama needs to hammer home that a Republican victory would reward the kind of right-wing partisan hackery embodied by Monica Goodling, the Justice Department aide who acknowledged “crossing the line” in questioning prospective hires about their political beliefs — and then he needs to make the case that he is offering substantive centrist solutions that would benefit moderates and the middle class and enact generational responsibility in the face of record deficits.

    Obama has a superior middle-class tax cut package that goes against the stereotype of liberals as inveterate tax hikers. The independent Tax Policy Center estimates that his plan offers greater savings than McCain’s plan for families making less than $112,000 a year and would save families making less than $66,000 up to three times as much.

    Obama’s campaign is confronting a political reality that Democrats have a difficult time dealing with: that America is essentially a center-right nation. Winning a national election comes down to winning over independents and centrists in swing states.

    And the professional partisans in the Republican Party needs to appreciate that John McCain is leading a broader resurgence of the Republican brand because of his independence, not in spite of it

    dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=61EAD93B-18FE-70B2-A800CBAAF1A83EA9

  45. I want us to focus and channel our energy on helping the downtickets esp. those who supported Hillary Clinton. We do afterall need a more central Democrats elected

  46. Yes, we have to work hard for downtickets and ballot initiatives.

    For example in CA, the discriminatory Prop 8 which wants to ban marriage equality for gays and lesbians – those who are fighting against it now must compete with the BO campaign to raise money since BO stupidly decided to reject public financing…

  47. moononpluto Says:

    September 14th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    On CNN’s Late Edition, Bill Richardson averred that McCain and Obama should be debating the economy. Tim Pawlenty pointed out that Obama’s campaign and surrogates wanted to talk not about the economy, but about Palin’s 17-year-old daughter. Both candidates have a paucity of foreign policy experience, but Richardson declared that Obama has had “international experience as a human being with his background.” (I hope he’s skeptical about the water-walking bit, though.)

    WTF does this mean : Obama has had “international experience as a human being with his background.” bwahahahaha more ridiculous than ever.
    *****************************************************
    I saw that interview and Gov. Tim Pawlenty chewed Richardson up…he hit him hard on the economy and how Obama is the most liberal Senator who voted for the Bush/Cheney Energy bill that got us to this place now with all the give aways and that McCain voted no.

    Also slam Richardson’s contention that Gov. Palin wasn’t experience enough by bring up the last 4 Presidents where Govenors and that Sarah is the only one with executive experience.

    More importantly, Pawlenty tore apart Obama’s economic superiority by stressing his taxing the small and middle class businesses in a downturn market and how Obama has always voted for more taxes since his days as a state senator.

    It’s nice to see republicans going after the Obama’s economic plan, which by the way is NOT Hillary’s economic plan. I think too many people think they are going to get Hillary’s economic plan which was more about growth and less about spending like Obama’s plan is.

    Hillary always had a way to pay for her spending while balancing the needs of small to middle business needs. She was a centrist with proven economica accomplishments….Obama is a ZERO. He believes in weath distribution and spending the people’s money for his many friends and self-dealing.

    His almost a billion dollars in earmarks in less then 3 years for a jr. Senator is just amazing to me and should tell you plenty on his economic plans.

    btw/One of the most troubling aspect of BO personality is his arrogance and “I know everything” attitude. He’s very close minded and his word doesn’t mean shit. You Can’t Trust Him.

  48. lisa b at noquarter:
    **********

    ) There is a terrific piece at the Baltimore Sun this morning. Go read it. Lynette Long – a familiar name to NQ, wrote about why, as a Democratic woman, she will be voting for McCain. I’ll only put a snippet here so you’ll go read the rest.

    After the Democratic primaries, I and a small group of Hillary Clinton supporters met with Sen. John McCain. I explained to him that women comprise more than half of the population, yet are underrepresented in every branch of government. I asked him to choose a woman for the vice presidential slot and to increase the number of women in the Cabinet and on the Supreme Court. Mr. McCain listened respectfully to my request.

    After the Democratic Primary, I was contacted by a member of Sen. Barack Obama’s Finance Committee, and we had numerous contentious conversations. I finally told him I would be happy to vote for Mr. Obama and rally other Hillary Clinton supporters, but in return I wanted Mr. Obama to pledge gender parity in the Cabinet.

    Read the rest ->

    “What if there aren’t qualified women – you still expect us to appoint half women to the Cabinet?” he replied. “There are 300 million people in this country; you’re telling me you can’t find 10 qualified women?” I said.

    He responded, “You can’t have that.” We had no further conversations.

    That’s it in a nutshell. The Obama campaign wouldn’t even commit to looking for qualified women. Amazing. Absolutely, freaking, amazing. It’s a great piece and neatly encompasses much of what we’ve all said here at NQ. Go read it.

    2)The UK Daily Telegraph publishes a piece about internal worries that Democratic candidate Obama’s campaign is ignoring advice on how to beat John McCain.

    The Sunday Telegraph has learned that senators, governors and union leaders who have experience of winning hard-fought races in swing states have been bombarding Obamas campaign headquarters with telephone calls offering advice. But many of those calls have not been returned.

    A senior Democratic strategist, who has played a prominent role in two presidential campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: “These guys are on the verge of blowing the greatest gimme in the history of American politics. They’re the most arrogant bunch Ive [sic] ever seen. They won’t accept that they are losing and they won’t listen.”

    ——————

    A senior aide to one of the most powerful Democrats in the House of Representatives voiced the fears of many: “Palin doesn’t just play to the Republican base. She has much broader appeal.”

    The aide said that her repeated mockery of Mr Obama’s boasts about his time as a community organiser in Chicago are “the most effective criticisms of Barack Obama we have yet seen.” He said: “Americans in small and medium size towns dont [sic] know what the hell a community organiser is. Real Americans graduate from high school or college and get a job that pays a wage. Campus radicals go off and organise a community.”
    —————-

    Peggy Noonan, the former Reagan speechwriter, blamed the defection of women voters from Mr Obama on the atom bomb of ritual abuse by left-wing bloggers and Democratic officials, painting Mrs Palin as a bad mother and religious weirdo.

    Ms Noonan wrote: “The snobbery of it, the meanness of it, reminded the entire country, for the first time in a decade, what it is they don’t like about the Left.”

    This is, officially, the second “worried” story I’ve seen now. But I think it’s relevant that it appears in a paper outside the US. Suppose it might be a way for people to “get word” to the Obama campaign before the US press gets wind (or bothers to pay attention) to these issues?

    3) The Weekly Standard is again working on the bad political attitude. The focus this time is on Democratic / Lefty hypocrisy. Not exactly new material, but there are some worthy points here.

    Let’s get this straight: Your party has just nominated for president a fellow who has been elected exactly once to the United States Senate, in an uncompetitive race, following a garden-variety stint in a state legislature. And your response to the GOP nominee’s choice for vice president–someone who has been elected once as governor following a stint as a small town mayor–is to decry the lack of experience? Nobody ever said Barack Obama was unqualified for the No. 2 spot on the ticket.

    Had Hillary Clinton won the nomination and selected Obama as her running mate–which, being a savvy politician, she would certainly have done, in order to fire up his 18 million primary supporters–Obama would have been perfectly positioned. Either he would be preparing himself as vice president for his run for the Oval Office eight years hence. Or he would be experienced and tested in a national campaign that he would never be held responsible for losing, with a fundraising base beyond the imagination of Croesus. Instead, it’s McCain-Palin with the wind at their backs, and Palin who is being prepared as the outstanding future prospect for her party.
    —————-

    Well, maybe because it is not a sign of the strength of a candidate at the top of a ticket to need the experience of Joe Biden (or Dick Cheney) in order to allay concerns that he’s not quite up to some aspects of the job. And, contrariwise, it is a sign of strength at the top when the nominee can look to the future and make a priority of party-building. Does anybody think that if Obama loses, he will have left his party in a stronger position by advancing the prospects of Joe Biden? Fortunately for Democrats, at least they’ve got Hillary in the wings.

    The part I like is the idea of bringing in “new blood” to the party through the vp slot. It’s like McCain was looking to the future of his party while Obama was rewarding a long-time pol who deserved a slot. Which is the more conservative move?

    4) Apparently the WaPo (link to realclearpolitics) never thought about securing a future for the party by picking a new standard bearer should the lead “man” fall. They’re still flogging the “reckless pick of John McCain” theme.

    McCain made the most important command decision of his life when he chose Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee. Two weeks later, it is still puzzling that he selected a person who, for all her admirable qualities, is not prepared by experience or interest to be commander in chief. No promotion board in history would have made such a decision.

    Yawn. This article MUST be for Obamabots. I really can’t see anyone else taking it to heart. Of course, maybe the writer will follow it up with an expose on the reckless choices of the Democratic party in their efforts to elect someone “not prepared by experience or interest to be commander in chief.”

    Ah, wait! I see it! That’s it! He added “interest.” So, unless you choose to launch yourself for president, you would never have any interest. OK, someone has to be “interested” in the job. Gotcha. That would mean since Obama is “interested” he is still more qualified than a politician content to work the job she has before seeking another. Raging ambition is a GOOD thing – well, unless you’re Hillary. . .

    5) Dueling Roe v. Wade articles today. The Boston Globe says it is in peril. Of course, the piece is penned by an Obama “advisor.”

    It is inevitable that the principal debates between McCain and Democratic candidate Barack Obama will involve the economy and foreign policy. For most voters, the Supreme Court is simply too abstract. But we should not overlook a crucial point: The fate of Roe v. Wade, and of countless principles in constitutional law, is now hanging in the balance.

    Cass Sunstein is a professor of law at Harvard Law School and an informal adviser to the Obama campaign.

    Over at the National Journal, another writer thinks any overturn of Roe v. Wade isn’t at all likely and not only because it is accepted law.

    Would a McCain-Palin victory spell doom for Roe v. Wade and constitutional protection of abortion rights? It’s an outside possibility, but I’d bet a lot against it.

    I suspect that even McCain himself might not want Roe overruled, notwithstanding his repeated assurances to anti-abortion conservatives that he does. Indeed, in a revealing 1999 newspaper interview, McCain said: “Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.”
    ——————-

    [Despite becoming more conservative on abortion] if McCain is elected, he would not be taking his marching orders on abortion from Palin or the platform. He still supports abortion rights in cases of rape or incest. He voted last year to fund some embryonic-stem-cell research. He is well aware that a decision overruling Roe would be hugely unpopular, hurting Republican candidates at all levels for years.

    Here at NQ, we have many people whose opinions on Roe v. Wade are all over the place. However, the general sense is that with a likely Democratic Congress, Roe is not in imminent danger of being completely overturned anytime soon.

    6) The LA Times has a piece purporting to talk about lies and truths on the campaign trail. But all you need know about this article is in its summary. Oh, and it features a picture of that “The View” interview with McCain.

    Political innocents may wonder why a candidate such as McCain, whose campaign is premised on ’straight talk’ — and to a lesser extent Obama — have veered from the truth. Because it works.

    If this article was worth reading it would have included arguments about the Obama campaign as well as the McCain campaign. But it doesn’t. So, don’t bother.

    7) The Philadelphia Inquirer doesn’t like Obama’s economic proposals. If your issue is the economy, give this a read and see what you think.

    8 ) Need a giggle? Pat Racimora mentioned this site a month ago, but it bears mentioning again. Anyplace that says Michelle Obama is really a Klingon can’t be all bad.

    Here’s a sidebar:

    UPDATES:

    * I’m Having an Obamagasm!
    * Obama: A New Kind of Deity
    * Obama the Steel Driving Man
    * Obama’s Website Solves World’s Energy and Food Crisis
    * Communists for Obama
    * Obama: A Typical Wright Person
    * Obama Adores Rednecks
    * Rev. Wright’s “God Damn America” Sermon Unites the World
    * Dirty Jobs for the Common Good™
    * Obama Releases Double CD on CCCP Records
    * Independence Day Message From Obama
    * Obamalot the Musical
    * Obama with his National Security Adviser, Winnie the Pooh
    * In Indonesia, Obama is “Everyone’s Favorite Dhimmi”
    * Barack Obama And His Marxist Friends And Family
    * Obama’s Crazy Uncle Surfaces in Moscow
    * Only Strong Obamunism can Cure Fainting and Weak Socialism
    * Barack Obama, Arab Interloper?
    * Zombies for Barack Obama
    * Obama Transcends Racial Confinements
    * Obama: A Progressive By Any Other Name
    * Obamaganda Broadcast: We Are the Drooling Ones

    9) If you’ve gotten this far, go back and read Dr. Long’s piece again.

  49. CountTheVotes Says:

    September 14th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Yes, we have to work hard for downtickets and ballot initiatives.

    For example in CA, the discriminatory Prop 8 which wants to ban marriage equality for gays and lesbians – those who are fighting against it now must compete with the BO campaign to raise money since BO stupidly decided to reject public financing…

    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    ctv: How do I make a contribution to fight against prop 8?

  50. SHV,
    I have seen that article. It’s excellent.

    More from the wolrdnet piece:
    “Harvard Law School is notoriously difficult to get into. Annually, some 7,000 applications apply for some 500 seats. Applicant LSAT scores generally chart in the 98 to 99 percentile range, and GPAs average between 3.80 and 3.95.

    If Obama’s LSAT scores merited admission, we would know about them. We don’t. The Obama camp guards those scores, like his SAT scores, more tightly that Iran does its nuclear secrets.

    We know enough about Obama’s Columbia grades to know how far they fall below the Harvard norm, likely even below the affirmative action-adjusted black norm at Harvard.”

  51. SHV,

    I would call this playing the race card.

    “….Obama would compare the increasingly absurd Bell to Rosa Parks.”

  52. To all long posts are very hard to read without knowing its gonna be a long one. While doing other things I read 44, but i keep it at about three inches at work. long aticles are very difficult to read in that format. heads up that it is more than a few paragraphs would make it much easier on me and others who are following the discourse here.

  53. Trippi’s Take: It’s Not Just Palin – It’s The Message
    Posted by Vaughn Ververs| 47

    CBS News consultant Joe Trippi says Palin has changed the dynamics of the race and that Obama needs to get back to being an outsider — fast:

    There is no question that John McCain’s pick of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has changed the dynamic of the 2008 Presidential campaign, moved the current wave of polling to the GOP’s favor, and altered the terrain the rest of the election will likely be fought on.

    The Obama campaign’s ability to recognize the shifting ground, understand that it is real, and adjust accordingly will determine the outcome. And the outcome, for the first time, is in doubt.

    The Obama campaign went into the Democratic National Convention believing that the race would be fought out on Washington experience and “more of the same” vs. change. This was essentially the same frame of the race the Obama camp had sustained for the first 16 months or so of the nominating fight with New York Senator Hillary Clinton. It worked in the primaries until the Clinton campaign shifted from “35 years of experience” to a much more “woman for change” oriented message in the later stages of the fight and nearly came back to win the nomination.

    But the McCain campaign learned something from watching the Democratic primary fight. Throughout the 2008 primary season no matter how many polls said that Hillary Clinton had more experience to be President, no matter how wide her margin over Obama on “ready to be President on day one” it did not matter. Obama and his message of change won.

    The Clinton campaign kept seeing in their polling and research that Hillary’s experience trumped change and could not understand why she was losing the nomination with her substantial experience advantage.

    The hunger for change was that powerful. The hunger for a different kind of post-partisan politics that would shake up Washington was overpowering “experience” and “more of the same.”

    Now it seems so obvious. It is amazing that so few (including the Obama campaign) saw it coming.

    John McCain and his team had to make a decision. Run as the more experienced ticket, and run smack into Barack Obama’s trap of change vs. more of the same just as Clinton had. Or pick Sarah Palin and run as the original mavericks that really will shake up Washington.

    If you are an advisor to McCain, faced with that choice, you urge McCain to pick Palin.

    But now it’s the Obama campaign’s turn to learn the lesson of the Clinton campaign. The Obama campaign looks at all its polling data and research and in a race between change and four more years of George Bush, change wins big. So it keeps trying to frame the race as four more years of George Bush and more of the same vs. change and cannot understand why it isn’t pulling away.

    It’s not just Palin.

    The brilliance of the McCain strategy and messaging is that it includes a trap for Obama. To push back on the McCain claim of “country first” and “the original mavericks who will shake up Washington,” the Obama campaign’s attack of “four more years of George Bush” becomes a problem. In a country that yearns for post-partisan change the Obama campaign risks sounding too partisan and like more of the same.

    It would not surprise me if in one of the debates Obama or Biden uses the “you voted with George Bush and supported him 93% of the time,” and it’s John McCain that retorts “that’s the kind of partisan attack the American people are sick of….”.

    What worked for Obama is now working for McCain. The important lesson for the Obama campaign is that the Clinton campaign kept looking at its research, kept stressing experience and did not adjust until it was too late. The McCain campaign has not only adjusted to the Obama message, they have changed the terrain.

    Now the Obama campaign and its allies need to understand that in arguing that John McCain represents a third term of George Bush and the GOP agenda it is the Obama campaign that risks sounding partisan in a country that yearns for the post-partisanship of “country first” and “shaking things up in Washington.”

    One last point: Hamilton Jordan, who passed away recently at the age of 63, was among a brilliant group of Democrats who plotted the strategy behind Jimmy Carter’s campaign for the White House. Carter was the only true insurgent candidate on the Democratic side to make it to the Presidency in the modern era.

    Carter was running against Gerald Ford in 1976. The Watergate babies, a large group of reform minded Democrats, had been swept into office in the change election of 1974. Carter who ran as an outsider throughout the primaries looked like he would beat President Ford, who had pardoned Nixon and was a joke machine for “Saturday Night Live,” going away. But Carter won the campaign with just 50.1% of the vote to Ford’s 48%.

    I remember Hamilton Jordan saying something I will never forget. He said the mistake that had cost Carter his big lead, and nearly cost him the election was that after Carter won the nomination the campaign started to listen too much to Washington Democrats and lost much of its outsider thinking that made it different.

    The Obama campaign needs to get back to the basics that got it here. Stop listening to the Democrats who are wringing their hands and fighting the last war.

    Clinton adjusted too late. McCain may have adjusted in the nick of time. Will Obama’s campaign make the right adjustment now?

    Get back to being an outsider. And get there fast.

    McCain is the one running against Washington now. Obama can’t just run against Bush. That’s my take.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/14/politics/horserace/entry4447858.shtml

  54. moonpluto,

    ROTF!!!!!!
    They’re inventing a new language.

    If he gets to the WH Obamanese will become our official language.

    😛

  55. ctv: How do I make a contribution to fight against prop 8?

    ****
    Birdgal – do you want to email me at onlyconnect2008 (at) gmail (dot) com? and let me know on the board when you have sent me an email, and I’ll let you know best ways to contribute.

  56. justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    I want us to focus and channel our energy on helping the downtickets esp. those who supported Hillary Clinton. We do afterall need a more central Democrats elected
    ==========

    Yes, that’s the logical move at this point. Palin can probably win without much help from us. 🙂 I don’t think she needs us to donate or do phone banking.

    blog.pumapac.org has a “Puma Slate” of downticket Dems in each state (in progress). Iirc the wonderful Heidi Li is working along similar lines, with the addition of a site where Senators and downtickets who support Hillary for Senate Majority Leader can list thier names and get extra support from us.

    So we’re increasing the number of good guys up there, as well as sending a CLEAR message with sticks and carrots.

  57. yes, I think I’m going to start focusing on downticket Dems and issues more…unless something huge implodes with McCain/Palin and the Republicans, I think they’re on their way to victory.

    like Hillary and Bill, whom I suspect will get out there to save downtickets, that’s where our focus should be too…

    after the DNC’s mistakes and shoving the Fraud down our throat, now it’s up to the people (and Hill and Bill) to save the Dems’ asses.

  58. I just find it interesting that Hillary made the argument all along during the primaries that experience matters heavily yet Obama fired back by stating that Hillary is more, “of the same old same Washington,” now with McCain and Palin both are firing back about experience matters and now Obama is stumbling….interesting…just interesting….

  59. This article resonated with me.

    Obama’s Altitude Sickness
    By Charles Krauthammer

    WASHINGTON — The Democrats are in a panic. In a presidential race that is impossible to lose, they are behind. Obama devotees are frantically giving advice. Tom Friedman tells him to “start slamming down some phones.” Camille Paglia suggests, “be boring!”

    Meanwhile, a posse of Democratic lawyers, mainstream reporters, lefty bloggers and various other Obamaphiles are scouring the vast tundra of Alaska for something, anything, to bring down Sarah Palin: her daughter’s pregnancy, her ex-brother-in-law problem, her $60 per diem, and now her religion. (CNN reports — news flash! — that she apparently has never spoken in tongues.) Not since Henry II asked if no one would rid him of his turbulent priest, have so many so urgently volunteered for duty.

    But Palin is not just a problem for Obama. She is also a symptom of what ails him. Before Palin, Obama was the ultimate celebrity candidate. For no presidential nominee in living memory had the gap between adulation and achievement been so great. Which is why McCain’s Paris Hilton ads struck such a nerve. Obama’s meteoric rise was based not on issues — there was not a dime’s worth of difference between him and Hillary on issues — but on narrative, on eloquence, on charisma.

    The unease at the Denver convention, the feeling of buyer’s remorse, was the Democrats’ realization that the arc of Obama’s celebrity had peaked — and had now entered a period of its steepest decline. That Palin could so instantly steal the celebrity spotlight is a reflection of that decline.

    It was inevitable. Obama had managed to stay aloft for four full years. But no one can levitate forever.

    Five speeches map Obama’s trajectory.

    Obama burst into celebrityhood with his brilliant and moving 2004 Democratic convention speech (#1). It turned an obscure state senator into a national figure and legitimate presidential candidate.

    His next and highest moment (#2) was the night of his Iowa caucus victory when he gave an equally stirring speech of the highest tones that dazzled a national audience just tuning in.

    The problem is that Obama began believing in his own magical powers — the chants, the swoons, the “we are the ones” self-infatuation. Like Ronald Reagan, he was leading a movement, but one entirely driven by personality. Reagan’s revolution was rooted in concrete political ideas (supply-side economics, welfare-state deregulation, national strength) that transcended one man. For Obama’s movement, the man is the transcendence.

    Which gave the Obama campaign a cult-like tinge. With every primary and every repetition of the high-flown, self-referential rhetoric, the campaign’s insubstantiality became clear. By the time it was repeated yet again on the night of the last primary (#3), the tropes were tired and flat. To top himself, Obama had to reach. Hence his triumphal declaration that history would note that night, his victory, his ascension, as “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

    Clang. But Obama heard only the cheers of the invited crowd. Not yet seeing how the pseudo-messianism was wearing thin, he did Berlin (#4) and finally jumped the shark. That grandiloquent proclamation of universalist puffery popped the bubble. The grandiosity had become bizarre.

    From there it was but a short step to Paris Hilton. Finally, the Obama people understood. Which is why the next data point (#5) is so different. Obama’s Denver acceptance speech was deliberately pedestrian, State-of-the-Union-ish, programmatic and only briefly (that lovely coda recalling the March on Washington) lyrical.

    The problem, however, was that Obama had announced the Invesco Field setting for the speech during the pre-Berlin flush of hubris. They were stuck with the Greek columns, the circus atmosphere, the rock star fireworks farewell — as opposed to the warmer, traditional, balloon-filled convention-hall hug-a-thon. The incongruity between text and context was apparent. Obama was trying to make himself ordinary — and serious — but could hardly remember how.

    One star fades, another is born. The very next morning McCain picks Sarah Palin and a new celebrity is launched. And in the celebrity game, novelty is trump. With her narrative, her persona, her charisma carrying the McCain campaign to places it has never been and by all logic has no right to be, she’s pulling an Obama.

    But her job is easier. She only has to remain airborne for seven more weeks. Obama maintained altitude for an astonishing four years. In politics, as in all games, however, it’s the finish that counts.

    letters@charleskrauthammer.com

  60. I posted: blog.pumapac.org has a “Puma Slate” of downticket Dems in each state (in progress). Iirc the wonderful Heidi Li is working along similar lines, with the addition of a site where Senators and downtickets who support Hillary for Senate Majority Leader can list thier names and get extra support from us.

    =================

    Sorry i forgot the url for Heidi’s, it’s
    http://www.hrcforsenatemajorityleader09.com

  61. September 14, 2008, 3:08 pm
    Palin on Fey: “Quite Funny”
    By Monica Davey

    Well into the night on Saturday, somewhere in the dark skies between Reno and Denver, “Saturday Night Live” could be viewed on the mini-TV screens in the seatbacks aboard Gov. Sarah Palin’s campaign plane.

    Many reporters who fill the rear of the plane watched Tina Fey’s portrayal of Ms. Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, but were left to muse about what Ms. Palin herself had thought of it — or whether she had watched it at all.

    In the days since Ms. Palin’s campaign set off for Alaska and now for her first solo campaign swing, she has spent her plane time (including a nearly 10-hour flight from Virginia to Fairbanks) ensconced at the front of the plane with family members and top aides, tucked away behind a curtain that separates everyone -– reporters, included — in the back.

    At one point, her youngest daughter, Piper, ventured to the back with a campaign adviser, but Ms. Palin stayed put, leaving one television crew from “Entertainment Tonight” capturing an image of the plane’s curtain, then whispering and motioning to its viewers that the candidate was apparently just a few rows up, just past that curtain, up that way.

    On Sunday, a campaign adviser confirmed that Ms. Palin had, indeed, watched the “Saturday Night Live” skit from her screen at the front of the plane. “She thought it was quite funny,” the adviser said in an email response to inquiries, “especially because the governor has dressed up as Tina Fey for Halloween.”

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/palin-on-fey-quite-funny/

  62. # justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    I just find it interesting that Hillary made the argument all along during the primaries that experience matters heavily yet Obama fired back by stating that Hillary is more, “of the same old same Washington,” now with McCain and Palin both are firing back about experience matters and now Obama is stumbling….interesting…just interesting….

    *****
    I also remember Hillary saying, I know how to fight the Republicans because I’ve been taking their fire for 16 years; I know how to win.

    Experience matters. Obama’s losing because he has none.

  63. “Richardson declared that Obama has had “international experience as a human being with his background.”

    WTH is that supposed to mean? That McCain doesn’t? Is McCain supposed to be an alien or something?

  64. I will play devil’s advocate (meaning Richardson’s) for a second – what they mean is that Obama has had the experience of being a true outsider, in that living in different countries and as part of their culture has allowed him to see how foreigners see Americans.

  65. yes, Obama was a child in Indonesia, and I guess he was college-age when he went to Pakistan. And he has relatives in Kenya and Indonesia.

    McCain had experience obviously in Vietnam, but as an American in a hostile environment, not one that accepted him as their own.

    To me – it still doesn’t matter – so what if Obama has a worldview through his childhood, through his relatives that aren’t America-centered?…it means he could also be played by foreign countries because he empathizes more with them at times than with what this country needs and must stand up to.

  66. Paula,

    I guess the “people” he brought together didn’t include mainstream women, whom he seems to label second-rate.

  67. For being such a uniter, BO has been very divisive and polarizing. How can he unite the country, if he cannot unite the democratic? party? He has not made one step towards trying to unite the party. He wants crossover Republicans and Independents, but when has he made any effort, to unite Hillary supporters? None. His supporters say that they do not need us. We’ll see, come November.

  68. So I was on the bus coming home a little while ago and eavesdropped on a conversation between a senior and two young women. They were talking so loud that everyone could hear them.

    The senior (a man) was mocking McCain’s injuries from Viet Nam as all lies. He said that McCain looked fine when he got out and very fit. The women were laughing at the idea that a “hockey mom” could be a vp candidate.

    I was too far away and carrying too many parcels to go up and give them a piece of my mind, but I sure wanted to. 😉

  69. CountTheVotes Says:

    September 14th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    I will play devil’s advocate (meaning Richardson’s) for a second
    =================

    Me too. From spending time in south Asia myself, I think a childhood in a mixed ethnic/racial community there, where tolerance is part of the civilization, would be a wonderful preparation for a citizen of the world, sane presidncey.

    Unfortunately Obama seems not to have learned the right things from it. Raised clean of racial conflict, given a good education and freedom of the world — he looked foro the meanest conflicted area he could find, Chicago slums, and joined a hateful church. And he learned destructive, nasty fighting, destroying one’s allies, as somethign to be proud of.

  70. This shows you some of the mentality of some of the voters. This man mocking McCain and the others laughing. Regardless whether he had injuries or not, he still served his country.

    I wonder how funny it would be to them if they reinstated the draft for women and men.

    Is this all the other learned from the media is just a hockey mom. Sad

  71. Janh:

    well it takes all sorts…

    Last thursday I went out for dinner after wtaching snippets of Palin/gibson 1st interview on world news; there were 3 people sitting behind me, a man and 2 women in their 40s.

    I overheard the man praising Palin while the women were syaing she needs to answer more questions…and the man told them about the gibson interview telling them that she has only been in the picture for 2 weeks since first introduced by mccain and just see her take off. The man was gushing over palin…I turned to see what he looked like, and he saw me looking and then asked my opinion..I just smiled and said “I love her”!!!

    BTW: I caught Rove saying it is very close and giving it to BO by 5 electoral votes.

    We are going to take it to the mat!! A lot will depend on the that “fraud vote”!!!!

  72. turndownobama-com…yes, i agree…having relatives who are outside of the U.S., who have a different worldview and a non-U.S. centric view is important…but yes, Obama turned to people both in and outside of the country who are hateful to the U.S. and in the case of TUCC and Rev. Wright – Obama had the opportunity with his very “enlightened” worldview to tell Rev. Wright he was wrong in saying what he said – and Obama had 20 years to correct Rev. Wright and didn’t.

    Look at how Obama has treated the vitriolic hatefulness coming from the Obamasphere – not once has he stood up to it and said, “I am a patriot. We do not smear people who live in this country, we do not stick our noses up in the air towards the patchwork quilt of values, religions and families that make up this great country.” Instead, he enables the hate, enables the elitism, and sticks his nose up in the air.

  73. well, MJ – if BO wins with 5 electoral votes, he will assume the Presidency with probably 60% of the country suspicious of him and despising him.

  74. moononpluto,

    Yeah, Obama’s been a real healing experience for me. Obama’s done his best to humiliate his opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton. His partisans have been anxious to bully and humiliate Hillary’s supporters. We just feel SOOOO healed.

    Obama can’t even work with the centrist half of his party, the Old Democrats. So how is it that with his paltry record of doing ANYTHING, much less healing the party, anyone thinks that Obama is a “healer” or a “uniter.” He said he’d get beyond partisanship, and he’s the most extremist partisan that we’ve had in a long time. Michelle Obama, I have no doubt, is even worse. She supposedly hates Hillary.

  75. Well even with Obama’s childhood experiences, he seems to have got that elitist-snobbish-arrogant-nose in the air attitude down pat.

  76. Any progress in the effort to prove that Obama was born in Indonesia? Also, has U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald pried any needed information loose from the University of Chicago, Tony Rezko, or any others who have the goods on Obama?

  77. I think McCain is riding out the Palin wave as long as possible before the oppo research they have starts coming out.

  78. rassmussen Delaware

    Obama 55%
    McCain 43%

    tell us something we didnt know. Practically exactly where it was 4 yrs ago, no change.

  79. CountTheVotes Says:
    if BO wins with 5 electoral votes, he will assume the Presidency with probably 60% of the country suspicious of him and despising him.
    ==========

    More than 60%: all the GOP and half the Dems.

  80. Paula Says:
    I think McCain is riding out the Palin wave as long as possible before the oppo research they have starts coming out.
    ========

    Agree. When the conversation is already going your way, don’t change the subject.

  81. Either way, 5 electoral votes is a far cry from what the false messiah assumed he would get. Wasn’t he going to sweep the nation with his hopium?

    Not that I want him to win by any votes but this has to be very humbling for the ego.

  82. exactly, why stop a good thing , just wait until they really have, why stop when the enemy is contently taking himself down.

  83. turndownobama-com Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    Unfortunately Obama seems not to have learned the right things from it. Raised clean of racial conflict, given a good education and freedom of the world — he looked foro the meanest conflicted area he could find, Chicago slums, and joined a hateful church. And he learned destructive, nasty fighting, destroying one’s allies, as somethign to be proud of
    ******************
    For me it is a chicken or egg thing. I think sociopaths are born and not made. I don’t think he learned anything from Ayers, Wright, Rezko..he used them…Obama is running on the drum beat in his own head..He has no political philosophy or loyalty, that is why he can flip on FISA, Iraq War, Taxes and throw Granny under the bus. It’s all about Barak..that’s why he is so dangerous.

  84. I am looking back at the electoral results and votes from 2004 and its amazing how little shifts can swing it.

    I cant see Indiana swinging Obama, Kerry only won 4 counties in Indiana and lost by 500,000. Looking at the counties, I cant see how its conceivable he wins in Indiana.

    NJ is conceivable it can go McCain. Kerry only won it by 6% and if the conservative areas come out in full force then its definitely conceivable.

    PA has got to be a huge concern. All the counties Obama needs like Lackwana and Luzerne all split evenly beyween bush and Kerry, if that scoops more towards McCain. If all those counties lean to McCain more than Obama by a shift of 10%, It will more than make up a swing of 100,000 to kill off the 200,000 lead Kerry had in PA.

    PA is a definite taker for McCain. Philadelphia is a lost cause it went 80% last time for Kerry, however even a small swing to McCain would be devestating to Obama there.

  85. The key figure to watch in Philadelphia is if McCain goes past the 19% or 140,000 mark in PA which Kerry got last time. Watch that on Election night.

  86. The key figure to watch in Philadelphia is if McCain goes past the 19% or 140,000 mark in PA which Bush got last time. Watch that on Election night.

  87. On McCain not heavily attacking Obama yet…I have this feeling that a shoe will drop when we least expect it. McCain was quiet over summer..under the radar but being strategic. Then, boom, they announce the Palin pick.

    I would be willing to bet the Republicans have something big on it’s way. I am wondering if something will surface around the first debate..

    I agree with moonpluto and others about right now…why go on the attack at this moment when Obama’s doing such a good job of hurting himself..

  88. forgot to add… although I sometimes wonder if McCain shouldn’t follow James Carvilles advice “when your opponant is drowning, throw him an anchor”.

  89. I do worry about the GOTV effort. O thinks he has the advantage as he often had in the primaries — look what good it did him in PA, OH, CA, etc.

    I would be shocked if FL for O — and I think MI might harbor a bit of resentment when their votes were canceled and then misappropriated — a good chance for McC. MI’s winner might be the pres. winner.

  90. Re: Rove’s comment giving it to BHO by 5 points could be and more likely be him setting the stage for it to be Obama’s to loose

    as well has trying to keep BHO feeling confident and cocky 😀

  91. Checking into some of the news shows today, it just makes me shake my head. Dems who I have admired for years have drunk the Koolaid and honest to God I can’t believe the words coming out of their mouths.

    It takes an awful lot for me to lose respect for someone, but the list of Dems that I now respect is rapidly dwindling.

  92. freckles, the evangelicals have a GOTV operation that puts the bots to shame, once they get energized. And now they are energized. My Repub relatives are already going full blast – all those church prayer lists are activated and buzzing.

  93. US ATTorneys office investigating felony charges on Acorn

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259825.

    The Michigan branch of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), located in Detroit, is being investigated after several municipal clerks reported fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications coming through. The majority of the fraudulent and duplicate applications are coming from the ACORN group based in Detroit, Michigan, which now has ACORN investigating the problem once again as well as the Secretary of State’s Office turning over some of those applications to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. According to the report by Freep.com, the spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office, Kelly Chesney, says there is a “sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications. And it appears to be widespread.”

    ACORN has registered 200,000 voters statewide in recent months with the use of paid, part time employees.

    In recent years, ACORN’s voter registration programs have come under investigation in Ohio, Colorado, Missouri and Washington, with some employees convicted of voter fraud.

    Examples of the problems they are finding with some of the ACORN submitted applications are numerous applications filed in one name, described as a “huge number,” and some with names that appear to be made up.

    A spokesman for the Detroit office of ACORN, David Lagstein, claims the problem stems from “sloppiness or incompetence — not an intent to let people vote more than once.”

    More information about ACORN and their previous history of voter registration problems can be found at Wikipedia.

    Recently ACORN was in the news when the Milwaukee Election Commission started an investigation because of voters that ACORN was trying to add to voter rolls were dead, imprisoned or imaginary people.

    The Pittsburgh Tribune also reported the Barack Obama campaign recently amended their Federal Election Commission report to reflect $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal ACORN group, called Citizens Services Inc., which is a subsidiary of the ACORN group.

    U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat’s campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports.

    An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. — a subsidiary of ACORN — worked in “get-out-the-vote” projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary.

    FEC spokeswoman, Mary Brandenberger, says it is not unusual for campaigns to amend reports regarding large sums of money.

    The Pittsburgh Tribune article details much more information about ACORN and Obama’s prior associations as an organizer for Project Vote, an ACORN offshoot, and represented ACORN in legal actions, which was reported by various media outlets as well as the Associated Press.

    Coincidentally, The Pittsburgh Tribune was discussed in a report here yesterday about the papers owner, Richard Mellon Scaife and his most recent meeting with what has been called his “archenemy,” Bill Clinton.

    Scaife, once called the “Funding Father Of the Right, by Washington Post in 1999, spent millions of dollars to “unearth damaging information” regarding Bill Clinton during his presidential term.

  94. Video Found of Obama talking about job Ayers gave him

    Can someone review this and see what it is?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I-N5I

    Supposedly its a smoking gun

    Supposed to be a Video Found of Obama saying the job Ayers gave him is one of his major qualifications for political office. In this video he also calls Rev Meeks and Father Pfleger friends. A must see. The video lays out the argument that Ayers gave an unqualified Obama the jobs that allowed Obama to buy his way into public office.

  95. Barack Obama a man without a past accomplishment that merits any attention.Now why would a AWB attend top schools and a top law university paid by Rezko and sordid other in his driving ambition for power and then accept a job that he describes as a”Community Organizer”? Most of us with describe that political IOU as a wardheeler garnering votes for the machine and passing out “Street Money” as incentives to fix an election.Well folks it paved the way for his IL seat as a state rep.This was the beginning of his drive for power and higher offices.He was then able to affect legislation to give state and federal funds to Rezko ato buy the rundown and uninhabitable slum buildings and restore them and give the tenants a better way of life and living quarters.OBama what happened to all the repairs that your cohorts promised to make.IT NEVER HAPPENED.your followers and cult members had to continue living squalor with no heat,broken plumbing,broken windows,mold,vermin and just about the worst conditions imaginable.Meanwhile back at the mansion mr and mrs Rezko arranged for the community organizer to be repaid for his great generosity with the taxpayers money to the Chicago gang and to his uncle rev. Wright that gave him his spiritual guidance even though Obama cannot remember what the sermons were about.Can anybody imagine how this person ever got so close to the presidency and the MSM along with his supporters have looked the other way and refuse to vett him or even mention the subject.No one on this earth will ever convince me that a conspiracy does not exist and Obama represents a clear and present danger to our Democracy.

    We had the best candidate in Hillary and we allowed her to be the victim of the DNC fraud machine.She will return and be recognized as the most qualified of all the candidates.

    By ABM90

  96. Paula,

    Thanks for the info about how Rove said that Obama is ahead by five electoral votes. I guess I just didn’t want to believe it. There’s still seven weeks between now and Nov. 4th, though, and Obama is trending downward.

  97. Get Out The Vote, maria. People on the ground and on the phones getting voters to the polls, getting absentee ballots out, etc.

  98. SHV,

    You said, “I think sociopaths are born and not made.” My understanding from my reading is that early in life, if no one cares about you, you don’t learn to care about anyone else. You have to get empathy to be able to give it.

    Ted Bundy put a butcher knife in his parents’ or grandparents’ bed when he was three years old. (He was raised by his grandparents, if I remember right.)

    Nurturing in the first three years of life is absolutely critical. If a child develops Attachment Disorder, the chances that he or she will be a sociopath go way up.

  99. moononpluto – re; video:

    basically, it’s clip of Obama (must’ve running for Illinois senate seat) saying his opponents have more experience, but saying that he’s “chaired” major philanthropic initiatives like the Chicago Annenberg Challenge that gave out 50 million.

    the video then goes onto explain how Ayers was the one that got 50 million from the the Annenberg Foundation, and that together, Obama and Ayers gave the money out to their friends, including Revs. Wright and Pfleger, etc. It shows clips of Obama thanking these people on stage at various events and acknowledging them as his pastor (Wright) and friends.

  100. Thanks, HillaryforTexas! I’ll have to remember that. GOTV = get out the vote

    I made 743 phone calls for Moveon.org in 2006. I helped elect Senators Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Amy Klobuchar. Sen. Claire McCaskill, in particular, has been a HUGE disappointment.

    I quit moveon.org when the group endorsed Barack Obama. I hated moveon’s “General Betray Us” ad in the NY Times, too. I read Thomas E. Ricks’ book, Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq, and General Petraeus, as we now know, is the best general we’ve got by far. He literally wrote the book on counter-insurgency.

  101. Also in the video the interviewer points out to Obama he has been in the state senate for only a year and has a limited track record–what about that prepares you for the congress? Obama responds that he is starting his second term and although his opponants have been in office longer his experiences previous to being a state senator equips him for the job. Evidently he feels those very limited”experiences” (he lists being an attorney, representing public housing, and being on the Anneberg Challenge) equip you for anything you want to do in life since he keeps stating them for virtually every job he is seeking…

  102. Moon: It is a series of video clips of BO, during early campaign races, crediting Ayers for giving him the job, of head of the 50 million dollar Annenberg challenge project, which was one of his qualifications for congress. also, it has clips of BO thanking his friends Wright, Pfleger, and Meeks. It also shows clips of the infamous trio’s “greatest hits.” For example, Wright saying “G–d—m America,” Pfleger mocking Hillary, and Meeks yelling something intelligble.

    It would be interesting for Just to watch it, because she can read lips, and would be able to discern, if BO was actually saying the words that come across in the video clips.

  103. mariaconz – I worked on that McCaskill campaign for Moveon too. Never again. Same thing – I got off their mailing list as soon as they endorsed the Fraud.

  104. # mariaconz Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    SHV,
    You said, “I think sociopaths are born and not made.” My understanding from my reading is that early in life, if no one cares about you, you don’t learn to care about anyone else. You have to get empathy to be able to give it.
    Ted Bundy put a butcher knife in his parents’ or grandparents’ bed when he was three years old. (He was raised by his grandparents, if I remember right.)
    Nurturing in the first three years of life is absolutely critical. If a child develops Attachment Disorder, the chances that he or she will be a sociopath go way up.
    **************
    No question that early childhood development is very important..It’s the nature/nurture argument…they are both important…I just think that there are a select few individuals who are born without, for lack of a better word, a conscience. I think Obama is in that category.
    September 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    SHV,

    You said, “I think sociopaths are born and not made.” My understanding from my reading is that early in life, if no one cares about you, you don’t learn to care about anyone else. You have to get empathy to be able to give it.

    Ted Bundy put a butcher knife in his parents’ or grandparents’ bed when he was three years old. (He was raised by his grandparents, if I remember right.)

    Nurturing in the first three years of life is absolutely critical. If a child develops Attachment Disorder, the chances that he or she will be a sociopath go way up.

  105. Me 3! I left Moveon too.

    Jan I’m with you — the Sunday shows are impossible (except for George S) and I just checked in with TaylorMarsh for the first time in ages. My God, they are nasty.

    H4T — Yes I know about the Rep GOTV vote and am glad they are energized.

    The nitwits on ABC said that McCain’s ad about sex education for kindergarten was “dishonorable” and that it was just for them to learn about sexual predators. Tell me how you explain to a 5 year old what a sexual predator is (as opposed to a kidnapper or a robber or a helpful neighbour) without teaching him/her about sex. A 5 year old isn’t supposed to be off on her own where predators can find her. Do any of you let a 5 yr old walk home from school?

  106. so “dishonorable” is now the buzzword re: McCain from BO’s spokespeople?…hmmm. I think they’re making a big deal because they’re trying to get ahead of the news curve on Monday when the McCain campaign attacks BO’s dishonorable ad making fun of people who can’t email or who have disabilities or who are disabled veterans.

  107. skip this if you don’t want to read liberals foaming at the mouth, that they would believe it if someone told them Palin will bring the apocalypse (oops, someone already did)…

    anyway, here’s Eve Ensler (Vagina Monologues author) spreading the misinformation on Palin…gee, Eve, ‘Gov. Sarah Palin does believe in birth control, are you not doing any research or allowing ingesting the lies of Moveon without any question?…

    Drill, Drill, Drill
    >
    > I am having Sarah Palin nightmares. I dreamt last night that she was a
    > member of a club where they rode snowmobiles and wore the claws of drowned
    > and starved polar bears around their necks. I have a particular thing for
    > Polar Bears. Maybe it’s their snowy whiteness or their bigness or the fact
    > that they live in the arctic or that I have never seen one in person or
    > touched one. Maybe it is the fact that they live so comfortably on ice.
    > Whatever it is, I need the polar bears.
    >
    > I don’t like raging at women. I am a Feminist and have spent my life
    > trying
    > to build community, help empower women and stop violence against them. It
    > is
    > hard to write about Sarah Palin. This is why the Sarah Palin choice was
    > all
    > the more insidious and cynical. The people who made this choice count on
    > the
    > goodness and solidarity of Feminists.
    >
    > But everything Sarah Palin believes in and practices is antithetical to
    > Feminism which for me is part of one story — connected to saving the
    > earth,
    > ending racism, empowering women, giving young girls options, opening our
    > minds, deepening tolerance, and ending violence and war.
    >
    > I believe that the McCain/Palin ticket is one of the most dangerous
    > choices
    > of my lifetime, and should this country chose those candidates the
    > fall-out
    > may be so great, the destruction so vast in so many areas that America may
    > never recover. But what is equally disturbing is the impact that duo would
    > have on the rest of the world. Unfortunately, this is not a joke. In my
    > lifetime I have seen the clownish, the inept, the bizarre be elected to
    > the
    > presidency with regularity.
    >
    > Sarah Palin does not believe in evolution. I take this as a metaphor. In
    > her
    > world and the world of Fundamentalists nothing changes or gets better or
    > evolves. She does not believe in global warming. The melting of the
    > arctic,
    > the storms that are destroying our cities, the pollution and rise of
    > cancers, are all part of God’s plan. She is fighting to take the polar
    > bears off the endangered species list. The earth, in Palin’s view, is here
    > to be taken and plundered. The wolves and the bears are here to be shot
    > and
    > plundered. The oil is here to be taken and plundered. Iraq is here to be
    > taken and plundered. As she said herself of the Iraqi war, “It was a task
    > from God.”
    >
    > Sarah Palin does not believe in abortion. She does not believe women who
    > are
    > raped and incested and ripped open against their will should have a right
    > to
    > determine whether they have their rapist’s baby or not.
    >
    > She obviously does not believe in sex education or birth control. I
    > imagine
    > her daughter was practicing abstinence and we know how many babies that
    > makes.

  108. ctv: That woman sounds hysterical, and that e-mail is full of misinformation and fear mongering. Also, Palin is being misquoted and taken out of context. The left is as scary as the far right.

  109. # birdgal Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    ctv: That woman sounds hysterical, and that e-mail is full of misinformation and fear mongering. Also, Palin is being misquoted and taken out of context. The left is as scary as the far right.
    **********
    The conclusion that I came to in the ’60’s was that the political spectrum was a circle and not a line. If you go far enough around the circle, Hitler meets Stalin and Mao. How is William Ayers any different than a Jihadist bomber? The “talk” may be different but the end result is the same.

  110. SHV said: For me it is a chicken or egg thing. I think sociopaths are born and not made. I don’t think he learned anything from Ayers, Wright, Rezko..
    =======

    Well, I think he learned some techniques but had the bad moral character (sociopath or whatever) from early age — which made him choose Chicago (and whatever this Frank and drug culture people were doing before that).

    If I were going to guess, I’d say he became narcissistic in childhood: looking Kenyan but never in Kenya. Also the half–breed status might have been a negative at that time. So — a Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer complex. His freakiness made him uniquely fitted to save the world! A half-breed with ties to both races — to unite them!

    Which is really not a bad idea — it’s just that he chose evil means. And I do think it’s about him getting applause, not about really doing the people any good.

  111. AmericanGal Says:
    On McCain not heavily attacking Obama yet…I have this feeling that a shoe will drop when we least expect it. McCain was quiet over summer..under the radar but being strategic. Then, boom, they announce the Palin pick.
    I would be willing to bet the Republicans have something big on it’s way. I am wondering if something will surface around the first debate.
    =============

    Ooooh. Just in time for Obama to get really worried about it and have his mind full of how he’s going to answer it….And McCain jab him a few times with it during the debate … and the media focus on how all his answers relate to that….

    As for not using the big ammo yet, the trouble with all that stuff is that even though it is true, Centrist Independent types won’t believe it. It sounds like the sort of thing the Wingnuts used to invent. I think it makes sense for Mc and Palin to stick to stuff that easily believable: lack of a record, contradictions, etc. Make him look like an inept neophyte, instead of some unbelievably wierd construct. Get this believable impression established in everyone’s mind, before risking Mc/P credibility with the worse stuff.

  112. turndownobama, I understand what you are saying but I can’t believe that Obama’s extremist history wont be highlighted in some way. It feeds into the doubt that many have about him and certainly the Rev. Wright issue alone has already made an impact with independents/centrists so I don’t think they would be skeptical of other troubling connections. I think that McCain has to be thoughtful on how it’s presented but frankly I think they need to be tough at some point. The election is too close. People are starting to realize that Obama isn’t what he says it is…a couple more revelations and the picture will be complete.

    Anyway, just my opinion…..

  113. Maria siad: Nurturing in the first three years of life is absolutely critical. If a child develops Attachment Disorder, the chances that he or she will be a sociopath go way up.
    ==============

    According to the profiles etc I have linked from ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground, his mother and grandparents were very loving toward him, and little or no hint of mistreatment from his Indonesian stepfather. The stepfather may have given him some bad advice, something about you have to choose between being bullied and being the bully yourself, and America is a bully to the world. The mother does seem to have encouraged an idea that your DNA is more important than your upbringing: she would give her different inter-racial kids dolls and clothes and books about ‘their’ racial holidays.

    The grandparents were neurotic white guilt liberals, dysfunctional enough to project their conflicts on the teenage Obama — see Steve Sailer’s blog linked from my site.

  114. I just think that there are a select few individuals who are born without, for lack of a better word, a conscience. I think Obama is in that category.
    ====================

    That could explain why Obama gives the impression of being ‘brilliant’. When you have no scruples and can charm people into acceptign your standrads and becomign your apologists and you are sure you won’t be called to account (media etc in the tank), then you can plan and execute maneuvers that normal people would find unthinkable.

  115. As for not using the big ammo yet, the trouble with all that stuff is that even though it is true, Centrist Independent types won’t believe it.

    I’m a centrist Independent, and I believe it.

  116. Palin DOES believe in birth control. She wants sex education to talk about condoms becuase some children may not lear about that at home.

    Iirc she talked about this in debates in 2006.

  117. AmericanGal Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    turndownobama, I understand what you are saying but I can’t believe that Obama’s extremist history wont be highlighted in some way.
    ***********
    It has started..look at the 527 ad that I linked above

  118. AMerican Gal,

    I’m sure they’ll get around to the extreme stuff sooner or later. I just think it makes sense to do it gradually and carefully.

    If Mrs Soccer is already voting agaisnt Obama because he’s inexperienced and she likes Palin, then Palin hitting her with crazy sounding stuff isnt’ going to add anything and might make Palin less credible.

    These days it’s possible to be pretty selective in getting teh right message to the right voters: lots of tv and magazines to choose from, lots of different radio stations, easy to poll to know when to back off.

  119. Idunn Says:
    As for not using the big ammo yet, the trouble with all that stuff is that even though it is true, Centrist Independent types won’t believe it.
    —-
    I’m a centrist Independent, and I believe it.
    ============

    Well, but you’re a Smart High Information Centrist Indepedent. Us SHICIs already know that stuff.

  120. Hey, this is funny, and perhaps telling!

    For months now, I have been replying to all my Democratic Party emails, telling them NoDeal. I always just hit reply, and they always went through.

    They are not going through anymore. I guess the DNC must have been getting too many negative replies, so fixed the system where you can’t reply anymore.

    LOL!

  121. HillaryforTexas, I envy you! I continue to get them, even get them via mail. I just wrote on the envelope, “No Way, No How, No Obama!”

  122. Biden said when he announced his presidential run back in 1987 that fewer than 1 in 5 voters knew who he was. Based on the number of votes he got in the primaries this year that figure was greatly exaggerated

  123. if the Republicans want to get the wavering Hillary supporters who might vote Obama off the fence and over to McCain, then they should open another wound of ours…

    investigate the voter fraud, investigate ACORN and imply that voter fraud occurred during the primary.

  124. OK, this is weird. Just read a post on The Confluence about someone getting a call from a pollster asking if he/she would vote for BO if HRC replaced Biden. Here’s the kicker. I read this in the comments below:

    Obama met with Biden on Thursday, and after that Biden cancelled his appearances with Obama in NH. He hasn’t been heard from since.

    Has Biden really not been doing any campaigning this weekend? That is strange …

  125. Here in Florida McCain and Obama are running ads. I have seen the NOT READY TO LEAD, THE SEX EDUCATION ad for McCain and SAME and OUT OF TOUCH [I think] ad where it says that McCain can not email for Obama. They seem to run pretty often.

    I am ready for Florida, where we are half a person, to be in the McCain arena. MI really should feel the same way; some folks here from MI say that the people are disturbed over the DNC and Obama primary. One lady said she was visiting her sister here and she was from MI; said they keep kidding her about being the last one left in MI, guess she wants to be there to turn the lights out.

  126. hillary4texas…same here. I’d always get a bunch of emails from the dnc and reply with some negative remark, or call them out on their lies..or just simply say, “f you”..and now I noticed my last email was returned.

  127. Paula,

    I’m sure I read an article yesterday (sorry can’t remember where from) that stated Biden was going to start campaigning much strong and that he will be going after McCain and not Palin.

    I can’t see Obama changing course now, it would be a sign of failure and with his arrogance it just won’t happen.jmo

  128. So Hillary is fighting for the down dems that supporter her, even though her debt is still big. Obama isn’t fighting for the down dems who support him.

    Says a lot for character
    ———————————————-
    The Lady Has Class
    Bambi’s A Tramp

  129. Saw this at pumapac

    Guess Who I Am?

    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.

    Did you guess?

    I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900.

    ——-

    And HILlary is the next FDR…. They should get along great!

    Hillary/Sarah 2016!

  130. JanH said – I can’t see Obama changing course now, it would be a sign of failure and with his arrogance it just won’t happen.jmo
    ————

    I hope Hillary would turn it down, or hold out for top spot. I stil don’t want even Clinton/Obama now.

    He’d have to ask her in secret, becuase if she turned him down publically it would be too humiliating for him.

  131. that would be really weird if Hillary replaced Biden…and how lopsided that would be with the person who should be top ticket on the bottom…and the feelings brought up again that the better person got passed over…

    how the hell did we get to this place?

    I would want to go to Pelosi and Dean’s homes personally and scream at them for the clusterf**k, they had created. I want them to be held accountable.

  132. You know, my 87 year old dad (an Independent) astonished me the other day. He said doesn’t know who to vote for anymore and might leave the top of the ticket blank. Overall, he likes McCain but all the attacks on Palin have now made him hesitant (he watches CNN unfortunately), he doesn’t like Obama for his lack of experience although was leaning Democratic earlier this year. He would have voted for Hillary if she had been the nominee.

    I’m sure there are other voters in in the same dilemma..although the surge for Palin is certainly telling us something about how voters are feeling over the shenanigans of this year…

  133. The democratic party would be suicidal (more so), if they replaced Biden at this point in time. But, I would not vote for a Obama/Clinton ticket. It would still be a sham. I will not vote democratic party, until the party figures out, which direction it is going in. Right down, it is going off a cliff, and I am not going there.

    Turndown: that posting is great. Teddy was one of our greatest presidents.

  134. AmericanGal:

    I imagine this Palin hating everywhere in the media, on late night talk shows, those misleadings emails from Moveon, and people like Eve Ensler floating around, are giving some Democrats the willies about Palin…

    remind your father

    in the end, it is McCain that’s top ticket…he’s spry, lucid, energetic, has good genes (ie. his 96 yr old mother)…the ageism that’s underlying this “Palin is a heartbeat away from the Presidency” should be called out.

    I’ll think about Palin critically when she’s actually running for the Presidency.

  135. can I say –

    I can’t wait til November comes, when it’s over – I want finally to divest myself of all this lunacy, all the emotions being betrayed by my party has created and the misogyny from people I used to admire, but no longer…and also this rage at what BO has done to the party, to race relations, to women, etc. I want him finished, back to Chicago and never to be on the political scene again.

    Calgon take me away.

  136. this talk about hillary replacing biden has to stop – it is not going to happen.
    1. it’s a fantasy for those who still want hillary in the ticket. based on stories, she told him not to even ask, or he didn’t want to run with her. whichever.

    2. it is plain desperate.

    regarding palin, people want to besmirch and belittle her as much as possible because she is the NEW (and may i say, more substantial) political star, and easing out barack’s limelight. and the msm, leftist dems, ‘bots, even barbara walters don’t like that at all.

  137. I wonder, if the rumor of Biden being replace is a rumor that was started by Republicans? What better way to undermine the ticket. Or it is a feeler being put out by the BO campaign.

    American Gal: Give your father, the following posting:

    Guess Who I Am?

    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.

    Did you guess?

    I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900.

  138. Before I go to bed I’ll add this note:

    My niece is a conservative Republican. It’s just freaking her out that I am voting McCain and that other Democrats are going to do so as well. She just can’t grasp the meaning of it. She doesn’t know if she should be thrilled, appalled, or shocked. She’s never been positive about Hillary, and yet, this year Hillary supporters may put her parties candidate in the white house. Honestly, she’s not sure how to even talk to me about politics these days although she happy I support Palin.

    We are all talking about this election year being so topsy-turvy and out of sorts. It’s happening with the Republicans too. I’m sure the folks over at McCain’s blog, true blue Republicans, are just amazed and discombobulated by all the influx of Democrats there.

    I hope that when this is all over, perhaps, just perhaps, we all have a little more respect and understanding for each other even though we have opposing political views. At least then something good will come out of all this mess…

  139. someone on RD posted: Audio of the “independent investigator” hired to investigate troopergate says he needs to defer to Hollis French, the Democratic Senator of Alaska, to the Alaska Judicial Committee…making it seem like this is a partisan witchhunt:

    type h t t p ://

    blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/

  140. hmm, did not post:

    audio of Alaska Judiciary Committee hearing where the “independent” investigator hired says he needs to defer to Alaska Democratic Senator Hollis French who is an Obama supporter – makes it seems like a partisan witchhunt:

    blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/

  141. American Gal said: I hope that when this is all over, perhaps, just perhaps, we all have a little more respect and understanding for each other even though we have opposing political views. At least then something good will come out of all this mess
    =========

    That could actually happen…. I’d love to see women on both sides rally to Palin and forget their differences and start a new coalition. With 50+% of the voters women, we wouldn’t need many other groups. Palin has 80-90% suport in Alaska, so that’s not all women.

    I”m pro-abortion, but I bet if Palin got into that, she’d get us some better contraceptives so abortion could become as Hillary said “safe, legal, and RARE.”

  142. I haven’t watched Bill Maher since he came back so I tuned in for a few minutes. I didn’t believe what I heard. They called Sarah a moron, a stewardess, a pig. They then got into a screaming match about how dumb she is. It was unbelievabe!

    It was also sexist, stupid, mean, wrong, shameful, elitist, and appalling. I hope McC uses it in an ad.

  143. I’m watching the hourlong special on Palin on Fox – the one that got one of the highest ratings for the Greta show…

    Anyway, I have to say, she is impressive – no feminist in their right mind watching this would see that she has the tenacity to handle tough political battles, balance family, she has an incredible partner in Todd Palin – seriously both of them break so many gender stereotypes – he’s “manly man” while happy to be the mr. mom…anyway, Ferraro makes several appearances and makes objective comments and does admire Palin.

    I feel like this is the only decent special on her life. Bill Maher and the rest are a disgrace. These people have had no patience to watch anything about her life, to learn anything about her life, before the condescend to the worst stereotypes about women – none of them really based on her at all.

  144. If the liberal elites keep it up, defenders of Palin and the undecided will start to wonder how bright Obama is, esp. when he keeps annoying the people he needs to vote for him.

    They will compare the taunts of “moron” to her debate performance. They have lowered expectations of her to an incoherent stammer. (another bright move from Obamaland) If she gets out a sentence, she may attract many more voters.

  145. This is huge trouble, Obama interfered in govt Negotiations to try to benefit his campaign.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

    OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

    WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

    According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

    “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

    Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”

  146. Obama just signed his campaign death warrant if he did this, he literally tried to suppress iraq success until after elections to benefit himself.

  147. This popped up on various websites now

    OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals

  148. Obama is the product of the new Democratic movement for the young AA to take over and eliminate the present Democratic party that has served us well until Dean,Brazille and Pelosi chose Obama as its leader and the way to yhe White House.Take note that Obama never mentions what he will do for the party and all of his efforts are turned to him and his way to convert this country into his Realm.Brazzille is a dangerous person and her mission is to be the head of the political system that she and foreign intrests are almost there if we allow this act of treason to take place.Barack Obama the unknown man from nowhere has usurped the power that only voters can bestow through the time honored system of one person one vote.If we continue on this path we will awaken on Nov. 5th and fin our country in the grip of anarchists and powerful foreign figures that will our hard earned freedoms that this nations young have given their lives for.The lasted talk about the attempt by Obama to convince the Iraqui leadres to delay the troop removal until after he is in office is very very serious and an act of treason in any one’s judgement.Stop him now or he will be the CIC before we thepeople wake up to the dangerous reality of a new dictatorship is now well underway. For some of you that may think that I am just an over reactionary old guy that may have a problem at his age,think again,I am not going away any time soon.Not until I see Hillary sworn in as our 44th President and then I will sit back and enjoy the justice that will be restored to all yhe people of this nation.A new slogan for all ” CONTAIN HUSSEIN “

  149. just reported on FOX that JM leads in
    Michigan, Ohio, Virginia and Colorado.

    Also doing a segment about JM’s war injuries and email.

  150. Obama has a history now of intefereing and undermining the country and Govt,

    The nafta flap with Canada, the missile defence shield and now this troopaccusation. If he did, this could be a logan act felony.

  151. Oh dear it’s official, Obama’s campaign in huge trouble.

    NY Post has seen the internal polling for New York and McCain has a shot at NY, NY is in play.

    A prominent Republican familiar with the results said, “It really is something, because we just assumed Obama would carry such a heavily Democratic state like New York with no difficulty.”

    The private polls have consistently shown the Obama-Biden ticket still leading but with less than 50 percent of the vote in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by over 2.3 million voters.
    BOOSTED by the selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate, Republican John McCain has experienced a surge of support among women in heavily Democratic New York state – where he has closed the gap with Barack Obama, new private polls show.

    The internal Republican and Democratic polls, details of which were provided to The Post, have stunned members of both parties – and produced deep worries among Democrats.

    One great concern for Democrats is that the data show a continuous movement toward the McCain-Palin ticket by women, a majority of whom traditionally favor Democrats.

  152. ABM,
    I agree that brazile has to go.
    I still don’t understand why she’s got any power.
    She lost the 2000, 2004 and is on track to lose the 2008 elections.

    I also agree that if BO did try to interfere in iraq that he should be banned from the election. that is treason.

    Also, I’m a strong believer in the saying those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it so keep voicing your opinion and perspective.

  153. 2 days ago Obama made a huge gaffe by saying he would only agree to the poland missile shield if it didnt target Russia, except no one seemed to point out to him that a missile shield isnt targeted at anyone and was defensive and not offensive.

    He then had talks or something with polish leaders. He thinks he’s president already.

  154. WOW!!!!!
    I can’t imagine the Post would have printed this if it weren’t true.

    “WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.”

    “According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

    “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

    Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”

    “However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open.” Zebari says.

    Though Obama claims the US presence is “illegal,” he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the “weakened Bush administration,” Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

    While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.

    Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

    Supposing he wins, Obama’s administration wouldn’t be fully operational before February – and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

    By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

    Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament – which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
    VIEW FULL ARTICLE >P

  155. As far as the tarnished media goes and their beating up of Palin’s reputation through innuendo and false accusations…well…

    Since Fox’s ratings are better, I really hope Hannity’s interviews with her this week make a dent in all the lies being spread about her.

    As far as Obama trying to postpone the agreement for Iraq withdrawal, I am just astonished. I hope the Republicans snap this up and run with it.

  156. Might as well post a couple of other troubling excerpts.

    Maliki’s advisers have persuaded him that Obama will win – but the prime minister worries about the senator’s “political debt to the anti-war lobby” – which is determined to transform Iraq into a disaster to prove that toppling Saddam Hussein was “the biggest strategic blunder in US history.”
    snip
    Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn’t want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of “pre-emptive” war – that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.
    Despite some usual equivocations on the subject, Obama rejects pre-emption as a legitimate form of self -defense. To be credible, his foreign-policy philosophy requires Iraq to be seen as a failure, a disaster, a quagmire, a pig with lipstick or any of the other apocalyptic adjectives used by the American defeat industry in the past five years.

  157. basil 9: She has the power of the AA population as well as the foreign money interests.It is now predicted that in the next 45 years America will no longer be a white nation.That my griend is the underlying motivation of Obama’s urgent need to race through the election process before some one or some group shows some courage and patriotism and demands that questions be answered and that he be immediately vetted and not be intimidated by his unlimited source of RACE CARDS.With Hillary still being the only other candidate in the race as a democrat and her 18mil plus votes she is still is a viable choice as we watch Obama being exposed as a fraud and a clear and present danger to our country.

    By ABM90

  158. moonpluto,

    I’m NOT as dumb as I thought! 😀

    That’s what had me confused. The term ‘shield’ implies a defensive rather than an offensive purpose!
    Listening to Bo can make one stupid!!!!!

    On Fox , talking about the Gibson question to palin about the bush Doctrine and the expert saying there IS no official Bush Doctrine and the informal doctrine Gibsom mentioned has changed 4 or 5 times and is a wrok in progress rather than a legal mandate.m

  159. ABM,

    I have thought the same thing, that the urgency to elect an AA president now involves fears that Hispanics already surpass them in the ‘majority minority” category, 14% to 12%, and the gap is likely to widen even further in the next couple of decades.

    Add to that the deep animosity between AA’s and Hispanics and the urgency is heightened even more.

  160. Expect this to go viral, that Iraq story will do an awful lot of damage and people wont need to hear the details, they wont hear anything else other than Obama lied and was backdoor dealing.

  161. NY – In Play,NJ – in play, WA – In Play, Minn – In Play, Wisc – in play, Penn – In-Play, Mich, In-Play. Many once solid Blue states are now a nice shade of purple. Keep up the good work Barry.

    I thought it was the red states bambi was going after not the other way round having to go after the blue ones.

  162. moonpluto,

    I remember snippets of the story back in June but nothing substantial, just innuendos with no analysis.

    This is the first lengthy article I’ve seen picked up by a large US newspaper.

  163. I would be stunned if Obama can come back from all this, if the election is even close, the bradley effect will come in. Bar some major fuck up, this election is McCains.

    I just talked to my sister in law in Maryland and she’s for Obama (I’m working on her) but she said the Palin factor is huge in Maryland, its everywhere.

  164. Obama’s campaign is disintegrating by the hour and they seem powerless to stop it and the thing is McCain has not even had to fire off a volley the damage has been all self inflicted, if this is what it means by “running a successful campaign” I’d hate to see what running a bad one was.

    (note to Obama) The republican smear machine has not even turned up for work yet, if you think this is bad, just you wait.

  165. Rangel is going to have to resign, he’s been caught out bigtime. This could have huge reprucussions for the vote in Nov. Very very corrupt.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/opinion/15mon1.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

    Mounting embarrassment makes it imperative that Rep Charles Rangel step aside as chair of Ways and Means. Rangel concedes that he has not lived up to the “higher standard” expected of members of Congress. His latest admission is that as chief of Congress’s tax-writing committee, he was “irresponsible” in failing to disclose $75,000 in rental income and pay federal and state taxes on a villa in the Dominican Republic…….adding momentum to two earlier controversies….favored treatment in occupying four rent-stabilized apartments in Manhattan, and improper use of official letterheads to solicit support from charities and corporations for an academic center to memorialize his career in public service. Pelosi must not cut slack for an ally. If Mr. Rangel refuses a temporary hiatus from his chairmanship, Ms. Pelosi should remove him permanently

  166. “BOOSTED by the selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate, Republican John McCain has experienced a surge of support among women in heavily Democratic New York state – where he has closed the gap with Barack Obama, new private polls show.

    The internal Republican and Democratic polls, details of which were provided to The Post, have stunned members of both parties – and produced deep worries among Democrats.”

    WTH did they expect?????

    HRC is extremely popular in NYS and I’m sure women hare are incensed about the way she was treated. Add to that the sexism agains tPalin not to mention a new governor, patterson, who not only described HRC as ‘desperate” during the primaries but also has said NOT ELECTING BO prez will show racism is alive and well and you’ve got dems fleeing in droves.
    Add to that the fact NYC welfare is supported primarily by upstate NY workers and you have a perfect storm of dissatisfied voters..

  167. I still feel bad for Rengel. He was a staunch HRC supporter until the June 3. He’s almost 80 and he’s done a lot of good over the years. I wonder who started this vendetta against him. My bet’s on the BO campaign who were PO’d he didn’t kiss the One’s ring soon enough.

  168. If McCain is surging in NY and NJ, then California will be too, If Obama canot pick off a win in NY by 15 to 20 points then this election will be a McCain landslide.

  169. Basil, he has been very naughty, if you dont declare income, thats tax evasion, we would not get the benefit, i dont care if its repub or democrat and theres other stuff he’s been up to, we need to have accountability from everyone, none more so than our employess, the govt.

  170. Photographer intentionally took pics of McCain making him look as old, as awful, as evil as possible.

    Check the Atlantic cover.

    Publishers are embarrassed.

    americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/the_atlantic_mo.php

  171. Nope Charlies in big shit. We did this to Republicans, fairs fair. Would any of us have gotten away with this.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB122143394599834065.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

    House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel of New York admitted last week that in recent years he has underpaid his taxes by about $10,000. Republicans are demanding that he step down as chairman pending an Ethics Committee investigation, but we’re more sympathetic. Charlie is a victim of the tax code he helped to write.

  172. OBAMA PLAYS POLITICAL GAMES WITH THE LIVES OF OUR SOLDIERS

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?page=0
    Here is an excerpt.

    “WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

    According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

    “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

    Spread this far and wide, please. Obama knew the Repubs getting some troops out would hurt his election chances, so he wanted them to stay.

    What a cold-blooded selfish fucker.

  173. Photographer intentionally made his eyes look red, didn’t air brush the photo and used bad lighting.

    you should see the out-takes!

  174. moon,

    I know what you mean but let’s face it, they all do that.

    I think it’s suspicious these issues have come up after Rengel dragged his heels in throwing his support behind BO, that’s all i was saying.

  175. Hillary we’ve been discussing this all morning, we missed you!

    Everything is blowing up in the democrats face this morning.

    Iraq, McCain pulling close in NY, Rangel may have to resign. Its not pretty.

  176. Rangels defence

    ’He explained that he didn’t know how much income he received from the property because his Dominican business partners would “start speaking Spanish.”

    Yup that’ll endear him to the hispanics blaming them.

  177. At 6:00 p.m. Eastern, new state polling will be released for Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

    This is the fourth straight day that McCain has been at 49% or above. Prior to this recent stretch, the Republican nominee had not topped 48% on any day since Obama wrapped up the Democratic Presidential Nomination in early June. Still, today’s results show Obama a point closer to McCain than he’s been for the last three days.

    Prior to the conventions, the tracking poll consistently showed a very close race–occasionally tied, but with Obama typically ahead by a point or two. For the past week, the race has remained very close but with a slight advantage for McCain. However, 17% of voters say they’re either uncommitted or could change their mind between now and Election Day. This suggests that the debates, which begin a week from Friday, could be especially important this year.

    Forty-three percent (43%) of voters are certain they will vote for McCain and not change their mind. Forty percent (40%) say the same about Obama.

    McCain is viewed favorably by 56% of the nation’s voters while Obama earns positive reviews from 54%

  178. LOL hilarious, panic alert, man the lifeboats.

    Obama winning NY by 5

    http://www.wabcradio.com/news.asp?c=NEWYORKCITYHEADS&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhosted%2Eap%2Eorg%2Fdynamic%2Fstories%2FN%2FNY%5FPOLL%5F2008%5FNY%5FBAOL%2D%3FSITE%3DWABCAM%26SECTION%3DHOME%26TEMPLATE%3DDEFAULT

    A New York poll finds Sen. Barack Obama’s lead in the state has fallen to five points, down from 18 points in June.

    The Siena Research Institute poll has Obama, a Democrat, leading Sen. John McCain 46 to 41 percent among likely voters in the heavily Democratic state. He led 51-33 in the June survey.

  179. moon, I’ve been in and out all morning playing taxi for various kiddos. I see that the “futzing with the troop withdrawals” was already a bombshell here.

    You know, it just proves what we’ve been saying. Hillary is sincere in her commitment to her principles, and they are principles that I share. McCain is also sincere in his principles – though I disagree with some.

    But Bambi has NO principles other than promoting himself.

  180. moononpluto Says:

    September 15th, 2008 at 8:58 am
    If McCain is surging in NY and NJ, then California will be too
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    Moon, CA may be in play, although, it is difficult to comprehend. Carby has been saying this all along.

  181. Its amazing that Obama has to now defend all these blue states that have come out of nowhere to give him a kick in the ass. Never mind Ohio and PA, he’ll need to shore up the rest first.

    Now we know why BC was dragged in here, the campaign internals are devestating.

  182. “they wont hear anything else other than Obama lied and was backdoor dealing.”

    Just like Goolsbee was backdoor dealing with Canada. And what did he promise the EU to get all those German cheers?

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