Picayune Intelligence

The strong case against McCain/Palin comes from some of our greatest minds.

The latest headlines of the Picayune Intelligence newspaper reminds us of why we should not vote for Governor Sarah Palin.

Allegations made in certain election advertisements have also made a very powerful case against McCain/Palin.

Bright Hollywood minds have continued an intellectual assault both in writing and on videotape, against Governor Sarah Palin.

However all these efforts are falling short. There are reasons to revile the Alaska governor which have yet to be employed by our intellectual elites, the “creative class” of brilliant bloggers, and the high quality talent at the Obama campaign.

For us, the strongest case against Governor Sarah Palin is her killing and eating of BJM family members and utter disregard of our hero Bullwinkle J. Moose. It’s time to expose Governor Palin’s Moose Abuse.

It is important for the “creative class” bloggers, Big Media, the Washington D.C. fingerbowl set, Obama campaign office MSNBC, and the official Obama campaign in Chicago to seize hold of the Bullwinkle issue. Nothing else will work.

The situation is dire. Obama must seize the Moose Abuse issue or he will lose big.

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How bad is it for Obama?

It’s real bad for Obama. More Americans know (a) Governor Sarah Palin is “experienced” than think Obama is qualified in that respect, (b) think Palin should have run for VP, and (c) reject the McCain=Bush argument Obama is staking his candidacy on.

An overwhelming advantage in experience and lopsided support from working-class and suburban whites have lifted Republican John McCain to a slender lead over Barack Obama less than two months from Election Day, a poll on the presidential race said Friday. [snip]

The poll suggests that perceived inexperience is more of a problem at the top of the Democratic ticket than in the No. 2 spot for Republicans.

Eighty percent say McCain, with nearly three decades in Congress, has the right experience to be president. Just 46 percent say Obama, now in his fourth year in the Senate, is experienced enough.

Fully 47 percent say Obama lacks the proper experience — an even worse reading than the 36 percent who had the same criticism about McCain running mate Sarah Palin, serving her second year as Alaska governor after being a small-town mayor.

“This is his fourth year in the Senate, and two of those four years he spent campaigning for president,” said Arthur Koch, 63, an undecided voter from Wallington, N.J. “I’m not too comfortable with that.” [snip]

Seven in 10 said Palin made the right decision in becoming McCain’s running mate, despite the demands of a family whose five children include a pregnant, unmarried teenage daughter and an infant with Down syndrome. Men were slightly likelier than women to back her choice, and even Obama supporters were split closely over whether she did the proper thing. [snip]

The poll finds that despite Democratic attempts to tie McCain to the profoundly unpopular Bush, half say they believe the Arizonan would chart a different course — including a slight majority of independents, a pivotal bloc of voters.

In must win southern Ohio 64% think Obama does not have the experience to be President.

Experienced Governor Palin yesterday survived the type of grilling from ABC News that Obama was protected from for most of his presidential run. Governor Palin while tentative and wary of traps, did well. Governor Palin is “likeable enough.” Governor Palin acknowledged those who came before her.

How bad is it for inexperienced, unqualified Obama?

In true blue big Democratic New Jersey (Hillary won the New Jersey primary) Obama is in trouble. The race in New Jersey is Obama 48%, McCain 45% – a 3% spread it’s trouble in the Garden State according to the New Jersey expert Marist poll.

True Blue Washington State is sliding away from Obama too. It’s a bare bones +2 for Obama there.

McCain is also continuing to be ahead in Nevada (Hillary won Nevada’s caucus) according to a Rasmussen poll out today. McCain continues to lock up western states. Obama had promised the Hopium eaters he could win western states – it was either a lie or a delusion.

The latest polls in must win Ohio (surprise! Hillary won the Ohio primary too) have McCain in the lead.

So bad is the Ohio situation that the normally astute Paul Hackett is advising the Obama campaign to panic big time. Obama will lose Ohio writes the Marine Reservist and former Democratic congressional candidate. Writing on an odious kook filled DailyKooks (warning: link is to DailyKooks) Paul Hackett provided some panic filled odious hate to counteract the coming Obama Ohio defeat:

The message is simple and the professionals can refine it but essentially it should contain these elements:

“Sarah Palin? Can’t keep her solemn oath of devotion to her husband and had sex with his employee. Sarah Palin? Accidentally got pregnant at age 43 and the tax payers of Alaska have to pay for the care of her disabled child. Sarah Palin? Unable to teach her 16 year old daughter right from wrong and now another teenager is pregnant. Sarah Palin? Can you trust Sarah Palin and her values with America’s future? John McCain? Divorced from his first wife one month and marries a billionaire influence peddler and convicted felon. John McCain, a record of rash and impulsive decisions. That’s not change that’s more of the same.”

Like it or not the path to the White House requires paying the Ohio Toll, and traipsing around Columbus or Cleveland and preaching to the converted is no substitute, and for that matter nor is duck hunting with Governor Strickland; See John Kerry, 2004.

It must be very bad when someone as smart as Paul Hackett provides such deranged advice.

The bad news for Obama is unhinging many Obama supporters. Compare (from a pro-Obama site) the electoral vote map today which shows McCain ahead and winning the presidency, with the same electoral map from four years ago today to see how dire the situation is for Obama and why Obama supporters are growing even more unhinged. McCain is solidifying his red states and Obama is weakening in blue states.

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Obama promises to counterattack against McCain, to fight back. But as usual with Obama, it’s just words:

If Democrats were expecting a dramatic change in words, tone or temperament, they did not get it. While McCain attacked him as a pampered, fading celebrity, a sexist and a desperate bully, Obama stuck to familiar themes linking the senator from Arizona to Bush and Washington lobbyists.

Even after being prodded by the audience in Dover, Obama appeared reluctant to get too aggressive. Glenn Grasso, 39, a doctoral student, pleaded: “When and how are you going to start fighting back?”

Obama responded by calling McCain’s ads “just fabricated” and “just made up,” an answer that spurred some to shout out: “Lies.”

“Lies, that’s the word,” Obama said.

From Obama more empty words and unfulfilled promises.

Obama did keep his dirty promise in one respect. Obama launched a vile advertisement:

Using jaunty, humorous music, a picture of a younger McCain with shaggy hair and the hint of sideburns, and images of massive, antiquated cellphones and a Rubik’s Cube, the ad is the clearest evocation yet of McCain’s age. The Republican turned 72 late last month.

“He admits he still doesn’t know how to use a computer, can’t send e-mail. Still doesn’t understand the economy, and favors $200 billion in new tax cuts for corporations, but almost nothing for the middle class. . . . After one president who was out of touch,” it concludes, “we just can’t afford more of the same.” The Obama campaign said the ad would be aired nationally on cable and on other outlets in swing states.

The ugly Obama attack advertisment against McCain (view HERE) was not well researched, we presume. In March 2000 the Boston Globe in a profile of John McCain explained why McCain cannot send emails or type on a keyboard:

McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan – Ted Williams is his hero – but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.

That’s right Obama, John McCain cannot send emails because of his war injuries.

John McCain also “gets emotional” regarding military families. John McCain was “emotional” at the September 11, 2008 World Trade Center memorial services.

McCain appeared reflective and cared about laying down flowers at the sad ceremony. Obama? Obama (Michelle was too busy to attend) thought he was having a cigarette, slurping some “Thunderbird”, and pitching pennies.

Obama is a walking insult to Americans. Only those of picayune intelligence will vote for inexperienced, unqualified Obama.

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  1. I posted this on the previous thread at the end so i am bringing it over to this article.

    Barack Obama under fire for ignoring advice on how to beat John McCain
    Barack Obama and his senior advisers are under fire for ignoring the advice of Democratic senators and governors who are concerned that they do not know how to beat John McCain.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2909844/Barack-Obama-under-fire-for-ignoring-advice-on-how-to-beat-John-McCain.html

    The Democratic presidential candidate’s slump in the polls has sparked pointed private criticism that he is squandering a once-in-a-generation chance to win back the White House.

    Party elders also believe the Obama camp is in denial about warnings from Democratic pollsters that his true standing is four to six points lower than that in published polls because of hidden racism from voters – something that would put him a long way behind Mr McCain.

    The Sunday Telegraph has learned that senators, governors and union leaders who have experience of winning hard-fought races in swing stateshave been bombarding Obamas campaign headquarters with telephone calls offering advice. But many of those calls have not been returned.

    A senior Democratic strategist, who has played a prominent role in two presidential campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: “These guys are on the verge of blowing the greatest gimme in the history of American politics. They’re the most arrogant bunch Ive ever seen. They won’t accept that they are losing and they won’t listen.”

    After leading throughout the year, Mr Obama now trails Mr McCain by two to three points in national polls.

    Party leaders and commentators say that the Democrat candidate spent too much of the summer enjoying his own popularity and not enough defining his positions on the economy – the number one issue for voters – or reaching out to those blue collar workers whose votes he needs if he is to beat Mr McCain.

    Others concede that his trip to Europe was a distraction that enhanced his celebrity status rather than his electability on Main Street, USA.

    Since Sarah Palin was unveiled as Mr McCain’s running mate, the Obama camp has faced accusations that it has been pushed off message and has been limp in responding to attacks.

    A Democratic National Committee official told The Sunday Telegraph: “I really find it offensive when Democrats ask the Republicans not to be nasty to us, which is effectively what Obama keeps doing. They know thats how the game is played.”

    Mr Obama tried to answer that critique on Friday when he responded in kind, issuing an attack advert depicting his Republican opponent as out of touch and mocking the 72-year-old Mr McCain’s confession that he does not know how to use email.

    He rammed home the point during a rally in New Hampshire, pointing out Mr McCains recent admission that he was divorced from some of the challenges of ordinary Americans.

    Mr Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe, called it the first day of the rest of the campaign.

    But that was the fourth time in the last nine months that Mr Obamas team have been forced to declare that the gloves are coming off. And Mr Plouffe’s dismissal of Democratic doubts as hand-wringing and bed-wetting only served to reinforcethe growing doubts about what some see as a bunker mentality among Obamas inner circle – where outside advice, even from highly experienced people, is not welcomed.

    The Democratic strategist told The Sunday Telegraph: “They think they know best. They don’t return calls. There are governors and senators calling them up with ideas. They don’t get back to them.

    “These are senior people from the border states and the South who know how to beat Republicans, and they’re being ignored. They ignored everyone during the primaries and they came through it, so they think they can do the same again.”

    Mr Obama has never won an electoral contest against a strong Republican candidate. David Axelrod, his chief strategist has been hailed as a political genius for beating the Clinton machine, but Democrats now point out that he has never run a successful campaign in the heartland states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Virginia, which will decide the election.

    His expertise is in mobilising young, educated and black voters in urban areas.

    Mark Cunningham of the New York Post summed up the private views of many: “If it suddenly seems like the Obama campaign doesn’t have any idea what it’s doing, maybe that’s because it doesn’t.”

    Party elders are also studying internal polling material which warns the Obama camp that his true standing is worse than it appears in polls because voters lie to polling companies about their reluctance to vote for a black candidate. The phenomenon is known in the US as the Bradley effect, after Tom Bradley, a black candidate for governor of California who lost after leading comfortably in polls.

    The strategist said: “I’ve seen memos where they’ve been told to factor in four to six points for the Bradley effect, but they’re in denial about it.

    They say the polls also underestimate the enthusiasm of young voters and African Americans and they believe that balances things out. But that’s a wing and a prayer stuff. There’s previous evidence for the Bradley effect.”

    Other Democrats are openly mocking of Mr Obama’s much vaunted “50-state strategy”, in which he spends money campaigning throughout the US in the hope that it will force Mr McCain to divert funds to previously safe states. Critics say a utopian belief in bringing the nation together has trumped the cold electoral calculus that is necessary to triumph in November.

    Doug Schoen, a former pollster for Bill Clinton, last week declared it insanity not to concentrate resources on the swing states.

    The Democratic strategist said: “My Republican friends think its mad. Before Sarah Palin came along we were investing money in Alaska, for Christ’s sake, that could have been spent in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    “It assumes Republicans are stupid and, when it comes to winning elections, they’re not.”

    The one thing everyone agrees the Obama camp have woken up to is the toxic effect on their chances of Mrs Palin’s arrival on the national scene. Polls show that white women voters, attracted to her down home virtues, now support Mr McCain by a margin of 12 points, the same lead among white women that George W. Bush enjoyed over John Kerry in 2004. Until recently, Mr Obama led among that group of voters by six points.

    A senior aide to one of the most powerful Democrats in the House of Representatives voiced the fears of many: “Palin doesn’t just play to the Republican base. She has much broader appeal.”

    The aide said that her repeated mockery of Mr Obama’s boasts about his time as a community organiser in Chicago are “the most effective criticisms of Barack Obama we have yet seen.” He said: “Americans in small and medium size towns dont know what the hell a community organiser is. Real Americans graduate from high school or college and get a job that pays a wage. Campus radicals go off and organise a community.”

    Peggy Noonan, the former Reagan speechwriter, blamed the defection of women voters from Mr Obama on the atom bomb of ritual abuse by left-wing bloggers and Democratic officials, painting Mrs Palin as a bad mother and religious weirdo.

    Ms Noonan wrote: “The snobbery of it, the meanness of it, reminded the entire country, for the first time in a decade, what it is they don’t like about the Left.”

    The Republican strategist Dan Schnur said that the effect was to repel blue collar, family-oriented voters. “They didn’t like Obama in the primaries and voted for Hillary. And they still don’t like him now so they’re voting for Palin.

    “Obama can still win these voters over, but his difficulty in establishing an emotional connection with them is probably his greatest challenge between now and election day.”

    On Thursday Mr Obama did take advice from Bill Clinton, who is understood to have suggested ways to show those workers that he cares, an area where the former president excelled.

    But it is a measure of his plight that the man who derailed the ambitions of Mrs Clinton, the most powerful woman in Democratic politics, now needs help from her husband to overcome the popularity of another alpha female who may be an even greater risk to his White House ambitions.

  2. Admin> I saw that gibson clip. He sure thinks he is cute. I am not sure what to make about that little shrug shoulders grin and roll eyes maneuvuer when he aks sara if bambi should have picked hillary. It makes him look like an asshole who is being too clever by the halves. Perhaps this arrogance can be tied to bambi in some way, to reinforce the idea that he does not connect with average people. As for Charlie, he destroyed his credibility with me and many other.

  3. From previous thread, reposted here:

    # rjk1957 Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 8:02 am

    McCain cuts Obama’s lead to 3% points in NJ
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    I’m from Joisey. NObama.

    Hillary won here 55-45% (just like CA). Do the math. If the national trends apply to HRC supporters, 51% will support Obama, 27% will vote for McCain, and 21% will stay home or vote for or write in some other candidate.

    Let’s assume NJ is 60% Dem (it’s blue, but not THAT blue, of a state), but of the 55% that were HRC voters (33% of New Jerseyans), half won’t vote for Obama (16.5%). Of that, 9% would cross over to vote FOR McCain, and
    7% not support Obama.

    Of the 60% of Dems, Obama’s slice of the pie would therefore be 43.5% (60% Dems, -16.5%).

    If McCain gets 90% of Repubs (that may be a little high, but maybe not, and we’re already starting off with a high assumption for Dems being 60%), that gives him 36% from Repubs and the 9% crossover HRC folks = 45%.

    And we haven’t even yet seen a debate…

    And the trend has been Obama losing ground consistently: 16% lead in June, down to 6% a week ago, down to 3% now?!!

    NJ, quite a Dem state, supported Reagan. McCain might not be a great candidate, but definitely good, trustworthy, and is proving to be a good fighter. It’s Obama that is a terrible candidate.

    I think NJ might be McCain’s.

    Now let’s talk about the biggest prize of all: California.

    I don’t believe for one second that CA (who supported Reagan, and voted against Obama 55-45% in the primary) is solidly in Obama’s column. Latinos, women, the “Red State” part of Cal., should put this state into play. Almost any other Dem would keep it. I think Obama will manage to throw this state as well.

  4. Dija: great post. It shows how much main stream media is hiding the true facts from the American people. To get the truth you have to go to a British newapaper. I guess people like gibson figure that people like themselves are so smart and rest of us are that dumb. They are wrong on both counts. Or speaking for myself Charlie I may be dumb but I am not stupid.

    The point that most intrigued me was this quote: Mr Obama has never won an electoral contest against a strong Republican candidate. David Axelrod, his chief strategist has been hailed as a political genius for beating the Clinton machine, but Democrats now point out that he has never run a successful campaign in the heartland states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Virginia, which will decide the election. His expertise is in mobilising young, educated and black voters in urban areas.

    (Note: this beating the clinton machine meme is part of the revisionist history that has carried overseas. The operative word is not beat. The operative word is cheat. And it is hard to say they won when they cheated in the causcuses, rbca, and bribed sds. Outspent her 4 to won and still lost the popular voter and electoral map. If you want to look at it objectively she won.)

  5. reposting my comment from last thread as it relates to this blog better. It is also in response to the telegraph article. Nobody among Obama minions want to acknowledge what they did to Hillary and how it has divided the party, this in addition to all the weakness Obama brings to his own candidacy. May be this election is lost even before the first vote is cast and that is the outcome I so desire.
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    It is a myth that Obama’s campaign was this highly effective campaign during the primary and that they took the mighty Clinton machine down. We all know how they got the votes in the primary through skulduggery and of course the media village people never want to admit that. The inadequacies of the Obama campaign in the primary were hidden from the rest of the public by the media and now they are coming to the fore as he struggles in the polls.

    Democrats thought the republican brand was so damaged that people flock to Dems no matter what, no
    matter how weak the Democratic candidate. Therein lies the folly. People are thinking Bush is an anomaly for the republicans and McCain is smart to reinforce that message. He is also smart in the way he is doing it subtly enough that he is not alienating any leftover Bush supporters. OTH, the Dem candidate Obama is all about throwing different people under the bus at different times. Sometimes I wonder when people glorify his political skills, if they are for real.

  6. The “Joisey” poll numbers and the potential move to campaign in California by McCain are very intriguing. This, as we have been writing since the Palin selection Friday, is turning more and more into a potential watershed election year.

  7. rgb: I saw this posting on Riverdaughter, which goes along with Carby’s prediction, and now yours.

    “Carby: I saw this from a poster on Riverdaughter. You might be interested. It goes along with what you have been saying. I don’t see it-yet.

    “McCain has started tv ads here in CA. 3. I think he has internal polling that is telling him something. He has limited funds so he is not going to spend them in states that have no promise. CA is one of the biggest and most expensive media markets.”

    The other thing going on in CA, is the ballot initiative for gay marriage. As many of you know, a judge recently over turned the restrictions against gay marriage, so many gay couples are getting married. But, there is a proposed initiative that will be on the November ballot, for adding an amendment to the state constitution, which would forbid gay marriage. I don’t know, what the latest polls are, regarding this initiative, but it may be enough to energize the conservative base, along with McCain/Palin to bring out more people to the polls. I don’t really know, but McCain has made some ads in Spanish, so he is working to bring in more of the Latino vote.

    Admin: Your clever wit, never ceases to amaze me. Good work with the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons. LOL.

  8. Palin will be the Bay Area on 9/25/08. They had to move the event from the original site in Woodside, to the Santa Clara Convention Center. It is a very pricey event. Lowest tickets are $1,000. They have at 900 people who have responded, which is why, they had to move the event from the original location that had a capacity of 800 people.

    She will be in southern CA, conservative Orange County on Sept 26.

    Subject: Tickets to Orange County Rally for Gov Sarah Palin

    On the morning of Friday, September 26, Governor Sarah Palin will attend a
    rally in Orange County to20address Californians and speak to the critical
    issues of this campaign.

    We are preparing for a crowd of over 15,000 supporters at this event. The
    following tickets will be available for the general public on a first come
    first serve basis:

    · 6,000 VIP Tickets: Available to any volunteer who makes 100 phone calls
    at a local McCain-Victory phone bank. These tickets will also be available
    for pick up at any Victory Headquarters Office with verification of calls
    made.
    · 10,000 General Admission Tickets: Available for pick up at any Victory
    Headquarters Office around the state people will be required to leave name,
    city of residence, and email address.

    Please note that anyone who visits a Victory Headquarters to pick up
    General Admission tickets may be issued no more than 3 tickets per person.

    Please ensure these instructions are distributed to all relevant parties
    including local Republican organizations, Victory Headquarters volunteers,
    and coalition members.

    Details about the rally will be available Friday. Tickets will be
    distributed starting Saturday, September 13, 2008.

    Thank you and good luck!

    Andrea Jones Rivera

    _______________________

  9. admin, they had no choice but to put both of them on the ticket with the more qualified Clinton on top (if they were going to make both run at the same time) but how they missed that obvious conclusion is mind boggling especially even after people told them that. Here is the irony, the republicans were saving Palin for later but found the perfect time for her entry. The Democrats on the other hand tried to manipulate people’s choice by introducing Obama at the wrong time and even abusing the voter trust by using him as an usurper to their preferred candidate. Never make the banker angry if you are seeking a loan from him/her, right? What were they thinking?

  10. As a matter of fact the insensitive and evil one threw the flowers instead of laying them down with care and respect like MCcain did.

    This guy the most unworthy candidate ever.He is too arrogant, he thinks he deserves everything.

    I think he needs a reality check. And the runner up is Obama-Biden. Sexists pigs and LOSERS…….

    Oh Hillary, we need you!.

  11. That Telegraph article has a lot of great stuff, including this:

    A senior Democratic strategist, who has played a prominent role in two presidential campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: “These guys are on the verge of blowing the greatest gimme in the history of American politics. They’re the most arrogant bunch I’ve ever seen. They won’t accept that they are losing and they won’t listen.”

    It’s comments like this that lead me to think there’s no way he’s dumping Biden as VP, though he’s worthless as a VP candidate. This race has turned into 2 against 1, with Biden not even on the radar.

  12. In radio address, McCain argues against one-party rule. That’s an argument we’ll likely see more of.

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/mccain-urges-against-one-party-rule-2008-09-13.html

  13. The Telegraph article validates what many of us have been saying for months. But, it is also scary, because if BO and his campaign cannot and will not, take any advice or suggestions from other party leaders, how does that bode for a potential BO administration? Not well. For effective leadership, one has to be able to look at the entire picture, and to be able to integrate other viewpoints and suggestions. Obviously, BO is not able to do this. Frightening. Arrogance will be his downfall.

  14. Paula, as I wrote at NQ yesterday, the race right now looks like this:
    McCain for president, Palin and Obama for VP, and Biden for oblivion..
    {Bud White had a good blog calling it a three candidate race for VP and nice cartoon by Pat Racimora..}

  15. “The strategist said: “I’ve seen memos where they’ve been told to factor in four to six points for the Bradley effect, but they’re in denial about it.”
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    The whole “Bradley effect” and shifting “white voters” meme is laying the ground work for blaming Obama’s massive defeat on “Racism”….what’s new??? I thing the biggest reason for in the difference of the “published” and “real” poll numbers is the modeling. The pollsters fudge the numbers by reducing the % of Republicans and increasing the % of youth and AA turnout. The constant hammering of the “if Obama looses, it will be due to racism” is going to have very bad consequences beginning on the night of Nov. 4. And the media will of course say, “Who Us???” My friend, the public school teacher, is already getting that message from her fourth grade students.

  16. That article is stunnig, Obama’s gone into bunker mentality, he thinks he knows everything and is pissing of the Dems to no end now. He is alienating everyone.

  17. Its true though Obama has always polled at 4 to 5 % better than actual votes. So theres a history to this, the Dems know this, thats why they know they need to be at least 10 ahead.

  18. This, as we have been writing since the Palin selection Friday, is turning more and more into a potential watershed election year.
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    Admin: yes. right as usual. If bambi can be trounced, then it will be looked upon the year when ordinary americans took back their government from irresponsible self aggradizing megalomanical elites through the ballot box as opposed to the guillotine.

    (Please don’t hit me for that one Filberts)

  19. SHV: I wrote something a couple days ago which is responsive to your point. It is based on a similary point made by Pat Buchanan:

    The powers that be have done a grave disservice to our country by framing this election as a contest between racial justice and our racist past. This has caused Black America in large numbers to embrace an unqualified candidate because he happens to be part black and Europeans plus the Third World to see his candidacy as a way for America to achieve a form of redemption. They fail to ask why him and why now. The inescapable problem is that Obama has no job related experience, terrorist associates and questionable core beliefs. Furthermore, he is a human gaff machine with little understanding of the forces moving the world. Finally, he is not the kind of leader who can solve the serious and in some cases existential problems we are facing as a country with two wars, and a sinking economy. Therefore, the elites in their infinite wisdom have managed to set up a damned if you do-damned if you don’t paradigm. For if we elect an unqualified candidate like Obama then it may have disastrous consequences. But if we reject him because he is unqualified it may precipitate disillusion, recriminations and quite possibly civil disorder in certain segments of the population. Either alternative is a losing proposition for the country. The people who framed the election in these terms are morally reprehensible. If they felt it was important to elect a black man to move our nation beyond its racist past then it was incumbent upon them to nominate a qualified one like Colin Powell. But practical thinking has never been their forte

  20. I think it is all over but the shouting…That ‘obot POS Bob Herbert of the NYT has thrown in the towel:

    While watching the Sarah Palin interview with Charlie Gibson Thursday night, and the coverage of the Palin phenomenon in general, I’ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might actually prevail.

    http: / / http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login

  21. SHV: I read that article and inserted “Obama,” into the “Palin” spaces, and most of it fit. The democratic leadership has sold this country down the drain.

  22. wbboei Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
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    It will take years, if ever, to un-do the damage. The vast majority of AA’s are voting for the “idea” rather than the person and the “Idea” is very powerful. If I were AA, I would probably be voting for “O”. “Identity politics is as old as our country. JFK receive more that 80% of the Catholic vote. It is a tragedy that Obama is a sociopathic, opportunistic, fraud and the AA community if going to suffer for his arrogance. This whole tragedy is being egged on by the white ‘bots who want to see and experience the thrill of social opposition and unrest. I saw enough of that shit in the ’60’s..I don’t need to see it again.

  23. As a lifelong vegetarian, 🙂 Moose hunting would have bothered me before until I read a sincere account on mydd from a poster about how it is a subsistence and survival issue for some in the cold climate. At least these people are not hypocrites trying to pretend all the well camouflaged meat in the whole foods market comes from some place other the animals they once were. If you are going to eat meat you must at least be ready to hunt for one — tell this to those sophisticated Obama minions who look down their noses at moose or any hunting. (As a herbivore, I don’t have a philosophical disposition that makes me incapable of growing my own vegetables, grains and so on..)

  24. People like Herbert miss the entire point of why Palin’s candidacy is so appealing and if he’s too “dimwitted” to figure it out, I’m not explaining it to him.

  25. While watching the Sarah Palin interview with Charlie Gibson Thursday night, and the coverage of the Palin phenomenon in general, I’ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might actually prevail.
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    To Bob Herbert: Dimwittedness has been on the march for years. Case in point: your column.

    The impramatuer of the far left is to ascribe one of two qualities to those who disagree with them: ignorant or malicious. You are in lock step.

  26. Oh my. If I didn’t know better, I’d say it almost sounds like Bob Herbert isn’t proud of his country right now.

    I love him complaining about the “close to Russia” argument while ignoring that his own guy claimed his most signficant foreign policy experience was spending a few years of grade school in Indonesia.

  27. Mi lord I missed it the first time:

    Herbert: “the first time in my life” dimwitendness is on the march.

    Sound like anybody you know?

    Mishhhh: “first time in my life I have been proud of my country.

    Could that be what Bob is referring to? I doubt it.

  28. Bambi is TOAST and will LOSE CA.

    McCain/Palin should campain in the San Fernando Vly, Ventura County, Santa Barbara County, San Bernadino County, Riverside, North San Diego County, San Diego County, Los Angegles County-LONG BEACH Shipyards, Central Coast, Bakersfield, Fresno, Monterey County, Yolo…

    I hate to tell people but outside of a few big cities…California is made up of many farms, small and military towns.

  29. # admin Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    pm317, leave Bullwinkle alone. 🙂
    ———————–

    oops! Sorry… 🙂

  30. SHV: this one is 100% the fault of the eilites and the name that comes most readily to mind is Ted Kennedy. Once the pargadigm this way it is hard to break out of it. With enough time it still could have been finessed but Ted has been intractable and downright stupid to the end. I mean once you set the paradigm this way the reactions of bots aas latte liberals are predicable. You dont need jd powers for this one. You can figure it out on a cocktail napkin. This is worse than the prisoners dilemma. Nobody wins.

  31. wwboei: Kennedy’s arrogance and hubris are responsible for this, along with Kerry, Daschle, Dean, Brazile, and Pelosi. There are countless others who assisted them, in presenting this empty suit to the American public.

    I guess, Kennedy thinks that Biden holds the nobler ideas of the democratic party close to his heart.

  32. Has anyone from California seen any McCain ads? Washington and Oregon can be in play for McCain if he decides to spend time/money there. California would signal that McCain is going to “expand the map” with a change message. Irony.

    If McCain decides to move ads into New Jersey he would have to advertise in NY so it would mean NY would be in play too. The expense of NY and California media buys argues for McCain foregoing New Jersey for the expensive (entire) west coast.

    Monday we will finally see the Obama fundraising reports for August. Obama probably raised a record amount but spent a lot too. Also, Obama will have to compete with the 47 million McCain/RNC raised so that figure will have to be factored in for comparative purposes also. The fundraising will influence the California and New Jersey decisions.

  33. DIMWITTED??

    I like how MSM liberals blame Obama’s impending implosion on Our Dim-wittedness.

    It can’t be that we have any brains at all, we’re all just mad as heck back-woodsers, howling at the moon, and won’t give The Black Candidate a fair shake.

    Bob, Herbert, you. Could it possibly be that we are not so dumb? (I have a college degree. Nyah, nyah-nyah, nyah, nyah nyah. Woop-de-frikkin-doo).

    Could it be that since 2007, we’ve been very closely scrutinizing a whole host of candidates?

    That the one who had the least experience didn’t measure up?

    That we paid attention to the type of campaigns they ran?

    And found that Obama had to play the race card in order to beat the favored Clinton?

    That for the Dem party, who should be about finding racism and sexism, played both in order to push forward the underqualified candidate?

    That maybe we find Obama’s lack of forthcomingness extremely troubling: 1 page of health report, no IL legistlative records?? (they were “destroyed”), questionable birth certificate, possibly multiple citizenships???

    That Obama can’t connect with average families on pocket book issues?

    That he has been in a media bubble since January?

    That he has run a vacuous celebrity-focused campaign?

    No, we’re just dimwitted racists who want to see our country flushed down the tubes, rather than hand the reins over to the Chosen Messiah.

    Yeah, Bob. We’re just plain stupid. That must explain it all.

  34. Charlie Gibson Interviews Barack Obama

    In his interview with Sarah Palin, it seemed to me to be pretty clear that Gibson was bound and determined to trip her up, working desperately for a “gotcha” moment, twisting her words to make it seem that she said something she didn’t, accusing her of being guilty of hubris for even agreeing to run for VP.

    Nonetheless, it occurs to me that maybe Charlie Gibson is just a tough interviewer. Maybe he sees that as his job.

    Here’s Gibson’s recent interview with The Messiah. You be the judge.

    No questions about Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Michael Phleger, William Ayers or foreign policy. No questions about his myriad changes of positions on issues like national defense and wire-tapping. The only prodding Gibson gave was on The Messiah’s complete abandonment of principle for expediency in abandoning public financing–and even that was light as a feather.

    A few examples of Gibson’s questions:

    GIBSON: Do you worry that [the 2008 race] could turn on race, age and class?…

    GIBSON: Is the hardest part of all this behind you or ahead of you?…

    GIBSON: The picture of you in the paper, this morning, with your wife, watching the Clinton speech. What did you think of the Clinton speech?…

    GIBSON: And finally your daughters. What did they say to you? Did they take it as a matter of course that Daddy could be nominated to be president? They never knew what older people know in terms of discrimination, although they may still feel some. What did they say about that?…

    GIBSON: I watched closely your countenance last night, your mien, as you stood in that hall. You didn’t smile much. Has the joyfulness of this hit home yet? Do you take joy from it?…

    These guys aren’t even TRYING to look neutral anymore…

    mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194056.php

  35. wbboei – do you remember the scene in Godfather when Tom Hagen is told by Godfather to cooperate with Barzini? Hagen corrects Godfather and says “You mean Tattalgia? Godfather replys “Tattaglia’s a pimp. … It was Barzini all along.”

    “Obama is a pimp. It was Kennedy all along.”

  36. admin Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    Has anyone from California seen any McCain ads?
    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    This a.m. I read a posting on Riverdaughter from someone who lives in CA, and saw a McCain ad. I don’t know, which part of CA. I would guess the Southern part of the state. I live in Northern Ca, and haven’t see an ad-yet. Palin will hold a fund raiser next week in Santa Clara, and the next day, a rally in Orange County.

  37. Thanks rjk1957. New Jersey might become a battleground yet. In most recent elections though, NJ appears close then comes through for the Dems. This time though, it might be very different. Maybe McCain/Palin will dip a toe into NJ by doing a major fundraiser.

  38. I hate to tell people but outside of a few big cities…California is made up of many farms, small and military towns
    ———————————————-
    Dont tell Medusa (Pelosi), or she may look in the mirror and turn to stone.

  39. Admin> Yes!

    There are not many things Mafia fact or fiction that I have forgotten. They may be gone as the driving force in the underworld, but many of us remember them. Some of them were “likeable enough” and some were friends. After Guilani took down the Commisssion, the smarter ones were gone and street thugs became bosses. The one thing they were however was connoseurs of power and puzzio portrayed it brilliantly.

  40. admin Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    wbboei – do you remember the scene in Godfather when Tom Hagen is told by Godfather to cooperate with Barzini? Hagen corrects Godfather and says “You mean Tattalgia? Godfather replys “Tattaglia’s a pimp. … It was Barzini all along.”

    “Obama is a pimp. It was Kennedy all along.”
    ———————-

    Hope he survives long enough to see his pimp go down. Nobody, repeat nobody should mess with democracy.

  41. Hope he survives long enough to see his pimp go down. Nobody, repeat nobody should mess with democracy
    ———————————————-
    pm: yes/ and the moral to the story is: i) you cannot control the world because it is too complicated, but ii) you can sure fuck it up for the rest of us trying. Let ‘er RIP.

  42. wbboei Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
    Dija: great post. It shows how much main stream media is hiding the true facts from the American people. To get the truth you have to go to a British newapaper.
    *************

    Thanks, I totally agree with your points on this article.

  43. admin Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    Wbboei, pm317, djia, the Dems really made an historic mistake by plotting against Hillary in order to promote Obama.

    AGREED!!

    I can help but also think of this election is this point of view… that had this election not happened just as it has we would not have shed light on racism,sexism,washington corruption, democratic leader corruption, chicago corruption etc etc etc

    so now we begin anew with the heavy duty task of cleaning up the mess….

    It will take a McCain/Palin/Clinton to clean up this mess!

  44. moononpluto Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
    Rassmussen South Dakota

    McCain opens up 17% lead over Obama

    So much for the NW states Obama wanted to take.

    *************

    here in my part of south dakota, where i bartend I always have FOX news on 😀

    it’s amazing the conversations i have had 😀

    and i can tell you this in my little neck of SD
    they are very much against BHO and they are NOT
    all republicans either!

    many if not all the women i have talked with are seriously liking Gov. Palin alot! it has made a HUGE difference for them to be able to vote against BHO 😀

  45. ADMIN, PLEASE EMBED!

    The rose moment was not the only way Obama was dismissive on 9/11. Watch this clip and notice the construction worker in the flag hardhat. Obama obviously avoids and snubs him, much the same way he did Hillary at the SOTU address.

    Maybe the guy is a blue-collar patriotic McCain fan, so Obama figured he couldn’t be bothered to shake hands with this particular person there to mourn family and friends killed on 9/11. Obama is about Obama, and only Americans who wish to smoke the hopium are worthy of his attention.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67a8BYSx2DU&

  46. rgb said: If the national trends apply to HRC supporters, 51% will support Obama, 27% will vote for McCain, and 21% will stay home or vote for or write in some other candidate.
    =======

    HA! When was that poll of HIl supporters taken?
    THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME FIGURES THAT HIL SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN POLLING EVER SINCE MAY!!!!

    So that means the sudden drop is among those who did

  47. “Obama is a pimp. It was Kennedy all along.”
    *************
    *************
    It has always been about purging the Clinton name from the history of the Dem Party. The “bad blood” started when the young and up-and-coming Gov. aligned himself with the idea of actually winning and the DLC. The knives have been out ever since and the wins x2 only rubbed salt into the “elites” wounds. This war is a long way from being over. The “elites” thought that Obama was the Clinton destroyer and could be controlled. Surprise!!! Obama turned out to be a sociopath who can’t and won’t be controlled by anyone.

  48. I watched snippets of the Gibson/Palin interview…I thought her answers on abortion/gay issues went down well…
    Abortion…make it a state issue…I think that is fine……

  49. pm317, most of those elitists wailing about Palin’s hunting for FOOD that she EATS are not by any means vegetarians themselves.

    Their meat that they buy at Whole Foods, however, appears out of thin air as a gift from the Magical Meat Fairy, unlike that nasty bloodthirsty Palin.

  50. [ Sorry, my comment box sometimes acts wierd on a long comment. ]

    So that means the sudden drop is among those who did NOT support Hillary!

    For details of past polling, my turndownobama.com has some and links to a diary of mine at clintodems which is updated more often. The distribution of about half Hil’s for BO, a quarter for McCain, and a quarter staying home matches Opinion Resarch polls taken in early June and early July. Other polls during the summer that showed c. 70% of Hil’s suporting BO must have left out the stay homes as they were NOT ‘likelly voters’.

  51. Interesting article:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_is_hillarys_gift_to_obam.html

    September 13, 2008
    Palin is Hillary’s Gift to Obama
    By Toby Harnden

    Spare us the instant Hillary Clinton nostalgia. Half of the Democratic party seems to have persuaded itself that the former First Lady would have been cruising to an effortless victory by now had primary voters shown the wisdom to select her as their nominee.

    Even many of those who remain intensely loyal to Barack Obama are beginning to rue the day he decided not to pick her as his running mate. Clinton and her sisterhood of traveling pantsuits, they fret, would have sewn up the female vote, reassured rural white men and doubled down on this year’s election theme of change.

    Republicans who spent several years salivating at the prospect of facing a polarizing candidate with more baggage than Heathrow airport, an unfavorability rating hovering around 50 per cent and the persona of the archetypal calculating politician now hail her as a gutsy heroine callously cast aside by Senator Obama.

    Of course, most of the new conservative love for Clinton is tactical. By lauding the senator for New York, they undermine Obama and highlight her case – which looks more compelling by the day – that he could not defeat John McCain. The old adage that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, Republicans calculate, should hold true until November 4th.

    We will never know whether Clinton would have beaten Senator McCain, though there are powerful reasons to be skeptical about her camp’s conviction that victory would have been a certainty. But while she may not have beaten Obama in the primaries, she may well have sown the seeds for his defeat in 52 days time.

    It’s not just that Clinton continued to battle for the nomination beyond the point at which her winning became impossible and the major political damage to the Illinois senator became inevitable.

    The crucial point is that if it wasn’t for Clinton, Sarah Palin – who now could well become America’s first female president whether or not McCain wins the White House – would have remained in relative obscurity in Alaska.

    The New York senator knew that Obama would never choose her to be his running mate. Even if he’d asked her, she might well have refused. Her looming presence, however, spooked Obama into playing it safe with his vice-presidential pick.

    Again and again, Clinton supporters made clear that for him to choose another woman to be on the ticket would cause uproar in Hillaryland. Obama was inclined to choose a Washington outsider who embodied change, had appeal in the heartland, would highlight his change message, had shown personal loyalty to him and with whom he was comfortable and in synch.

    Either Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas or Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri would have fitted the bill. But Obama, afraid of a Hillary backlash if he chose a less qualified woman, blinked.

    Clinton had trumpeted 35 years of experience. So Obama selected Senator Joe Biden of Delaware, who could boast nearly 36 years on Capitol Hill. Biden was acceptable to the Clintons because he’d never taken shots at Mrs Clinton (indeed, he didn’t even endorse Obama against her). Even his Scranton roots were something of a nod to the former First Lady.

    What Obama hadn’t reckoned with was the opportunity he’d be handing McCain. Having calculated correctly that Obama would not choose Clinton, the Arizona senator embarked on what looks in hindsight like a masterful diversionary move. All summer, he dangled boring white guy governors Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty as his likely veep picks.

    He floated Joe Lieberman, and appears genuinely to have wanted to choose the Connecticut senator before concluding he would have been unacceptable to the Right. But all along, Governor Palin was on his list. The rest were decoys.

    Palin’s inexperience made her a risk. When Obama went for Biden, however, the pluses were too good to overlook – a play for soft Hillary supporters, an outsider, an embodiment of change, a cementing of the jittery conservative base, a much needed jolt of excitement to McCain’s campaign.

    The secrecy of McCain’s veepstakes process squashed whatever convention bounce Obama might otherwise have enjoyed. Palin neutralized Biden by making him seem a quaint throwback. And Biden, true to form, has already obliged by describing Palin as “good looking” and condemning her selection as a “backward step for women” – innocent comments but easily capable of provoking outrage, both real and synthetic.

    Palin’s presence on the trail has ensured that Clinton will remain to the fore – a constant reminder to her supporters of what might have been. Fearful of losing women voters, the Obama-Biden ticket is showing deference to the New York senator. Biden’s musing that she might have been “more qualified” than him and a “better pick” as Obama’s running mate was a gaffe of breathtaking proportions.

    It’s now obvious that Palin has left Obama badly rattled and his campaign flailing. It must stick in the craw of a man brought up by a single mother, who married a strong woman and adores his two daughters but he stands accused of being sexism not just once but twice.

    The “lipstick on a pig” slip-up was no more intended to be sexist or demeaning than his ill-judged “likeable enough, Hillary” quip in the New Hampshire primary debate. But it illustrated once again the perils of a rookie on the national scene jousting with a female politician who has passionate supporters and is poised to make history.

    It’s folly, of course, for Obama to be engaging with Palin. It diminishes him by equating him with the number two on the other ticket. And far from neutralizing the question mark over his experience, the discussion of her qualifications has ensured that his thin resume will remain front and center.

    Obama should be giving Palin a good ignoring while his campaign hammers away at her record and McCain’s linkages to President George W. Bush – not his vetting process (a Beltway preoccupation of no relevance beyond whether it missed anything damaging) or her family.

    Clinton has made clear she won’t be attacking Palin. And why should she? A McCain-Palin victory would make Clinton the Democratic front runner in 2012. It would vindicate everything she said about Obama during their primary battle.

    Palin, and what picking her telegraphed about McCain, could be Obama’s nemesis. Hillary Clinton brought us Palin. The Alaska governor is her gift to Obama.

    Toby Harnden is US Editor of The Daily Telegraph of London.

  52. Okay, tie me up till I get over this, but at the moment I feel like not only voting FOR Palin but going over the anti-abortion side!

    Palin would damn well get the real problem solved with better contraceptives and better sex education!

    She is FOR sex education in schools to teach chidren about condoms. She solved major entrenched problems in Alaska with the oil companies. If she gets around to it, she can take apart the current abortion problem just as well. She would put the anti-abortion groups’ energy into research on why women are still getting unwanted pregnancies (she’s got plenty of research material close at hand) — and into doing something for, as she says, “prevention.”

    Imo the male politicians on both sides have kept Roe appear as a debateable subject so as to whip up the extremists on both sides. I don’t think Palin will stand for that.

    At this point I feel like she and McCain can make a damn good start on cleaning up DC in prep for Hillary 2012! Let Bill have this four years to rest up before becoming First Dude.

  53. hi all

    off the pumapac blog: read this and get mad at the media… its sickening what they edited out.

    “worth reading”

    mrks

    Grizzly on 09.13.08 at 11:13 am Here’s another blood pressure raiser for the morning.

    Newsbusters got ahold of the entire ABC Palin interview transcript. To say that they edited the piece shown on TV to paint Palin in a negative light would be an understatement.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview

    There was also a piece posted in yesterday’s thread from a feminist web site that provided an excellent comparison of the interview Gibson did with Obama versus the one he did with Palin.

    The MSM isn’t even trying to pretend it is impartial anymore. Truly disgusting.

  54. Admin,

    Moose Abuse! LOL!

    PM,
    I’m a vegan, also. Many of my neighbors hunt but they harvest and use the entire
    animal, either eating the meat themselves or donating it to local soup kitchens.
    I still don’t like it but knowing the animal serves as food for the hungry makes it a bit easier to
    accept.

  55. sorry if this double posts nothing showed up?

    from pumapac blog: read this and get mad at the media… its sickening what they edited out.

    “worth reading”

    mrks

    Grizzly on 09.13.08 at 11:13 am Here’s another blood pressure raiser for the morning.

    Newsbusters got ahold of the entire ABC Palin interview transcript. To say that they edited the piece shown on TV to paint Palin in a negative light would be an understatement.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview

    There was also a piece posted in yesterday’s thread from a feminist web site that provided an excellent comparison of the interview Gibson did with Obama versus the one he did with Palin.

    The MSM isn’t even trying to pretend it is impartial anymore. Truly disgusting.

  56. If anyone would like to be blown away at how carefully ABC edited Palin’s interview answers to DELIBERATELY TRY TO PAINT HER AS A WARMONGER, please see this article.

    They have bolded the parts that ABC edited out of her responses. They took out the parts where she spoke about diplomacy, they took out the parts where she said she hated war, did not want war, wanted international cooperation. They edited every bit of that out.

    It is shocking.

    newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview

  57. basil: Before supermarkets plastic wrapped foods were available, our ancestors had to hunt their food for survial. Your neighbors sound like reasonable people.

  58. h4T,

    What an obnoxious SOB. No class, no respect, no sense of value.
    He and his wife need an etiquette class though I doubt it would help.
    Notice he spent quite a bit of time with the first person in the line.

  59. birdgal,

    Absolutely. And now that I live in a rural area and have seen hawks taking rabbits and squirrels from my
    yard it’s easier to accept. They have to eat, too. What I’m against is cruelty and pointless slaughter.

  60. Why e lie:
    do reporters continue to cite this lie?

    “it’s not just that Clinton continued to battle for the nomination beyond the point at which her winning became impossible . . . .”

    Even the DNC tally had her trailing BO by just 17 pledged delegates which means neither one of them
    had enough to clinch the nomination.

  61. Here’s why MO wasn’t at Ground Zero yesterday.

    “.. her priorities entail campaigning for her husband at religious conferences in Cincinnati, Ohio. While the McCains are now famously subscribing to the dictum “country first,” Michelle Obama continues to place her husband’s political ambitions above all else. The Toledo Blade explains the situation quite well in an article published on 11 SEPT 2008.”

    See NQ for more

  62. MO lied about staying home coz it was her kids first week of school.
    from the New Yorker revealed that Michelle Obama invoked Reverend Wright’s name in order to build ties of solidarity with African-American Christians in South Carolina before that state’s racially and religiously divisive primary. I quote:

    Earlier on the day that Obama visited the nursery school, she addressed a congregation at the Pee Dee Union Baptist Church, in Cheraw, a hamlet of about six thousand known as “The Prettiest Town in Dixie.” The church’s makeshift gravel parking lot, next to the Pee Dee Ice and Fuel Company and bounded by train tracks, was full. After an invocation by the Reverend Jerry Corbett and an introduction by the mayor of Cheraw, Obama came to the pulpit. “You all got up bright and early just for me?” she asked the mostly elderly, almost all-black crowd. “Yes!” they roared. Obama continued, “On behalf of my church home and my pastor, Reverend Wright, I bring greetings.”

    She was a Reverend Wright, “God Damn America” Christian in January, a “Christian” on 10 SEPT 2008 in Cincinnati, Ohio, and a liar when questioned by the media on 11 SEPT 2008 about her absence from the ceremonies that took place at Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan. Michelle Obama has priorities, but these priorities will not appeal to the grand majority of honest Americans who love their country in times good and bad. No wonder why her husband’s lead is eroding: when voters are asked to compare Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama, they see a Republican who always puts her “country first” and a mendacious Democrat whose patriotism is questionable. To these voters it is a question of Michelle Obama’s utterly warped priorities on a day when all aspiring public figures should at least try to feign sentiments of unity in the name of one’s unassailable love of country.

    NQ.
    “……

  63. the amazing thing about this election is the revelation of the “true colors” of those we have admired and adored.

    Names I never thought I’d cringe at hearing, Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, and yes even Soro’s.
    I was a true blue democrat to the core. They were the heroes of my cause.

    Actors, and actresses, commentators and advisors, friends and colleagues. To me now, they are the “walking dead”. Their souls have been taken over by some virus or as one friend has said..the anti-christ. A mantra of babble coming from zombies, obama, obama, obama. Far from the celestial choir I had heard about. Far from the great “one” that drew crowds of lost souls. It’s truly as if we are living in the real “The War of the Worlds

  64. HillaryforTexas Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    pm317, most of those elitists wailing about Palin’s hunting for FOOD that she EATS are not by any means vegetarians themselves.
    ———————–

    H4T, No, I know. These are cowards and hypocrites who want someone else to do what they perceive to be the dirty work (like hunting and putting food on their table) for them all the while passing judgment against those same people. I will go ahead and include military into this equation. The so called liberal elite don’t want to fight a war but are ok with other people doing it for them. If they are against wars and military, they should propose viable solutions to eliminate both. {God, I sound like a republican but this election has shown me, a staunch liberal, the hypocrisies on the liberal left and has left me to calibrate my own world view.}

  65. Fro’m newsbusters.
    MO traveled to 2 states on 9/11, Indiana and Ohio.

    “Unfortunately, Michelle Obama wasn’t able to be with her daughters yesterday. As reported today by the Indianapolis Star:

    FISHERS, Ind. — Michelle Obama on Wednesday described her struggles to balance career and family — and spoke of the guilt she often feels when she shortchanges either one.

    But her presentation before a mostly female, friendly crowd of 250 in reliably Republican Hamilton County was about more than underscoring that she and her husband, Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama, understood family pressures.

    Even then, Obama wasn’t done for the day. UPI detailed her Wednesday evening:

    The National Black Baptist Convention meeting in Cincinnati warmly welcomed Michelle Obama who called on members to “struggle for the world as it should be.”

    Obama had to wait for the crowd of about 7,000 to calm down before she could begin her speech Wednesday night, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. She began by telling the National Baptist Convention USA she was speaking “as a person of faith who believes we have all have been called to serve our fellow men and women and to honor God’s creation.”

    “We can either settle for the world as it is, or we can fight and struggle for the world as it should be,” she said.

    It doesn’t seem as though anyone in the mainstream media asked the obvious question: If the candidate’s wife felt it was important to be with her children this week, and that’s why she was unable to pay her respects at the 9/11 ceremony, why did she spend yesterday campaigning in two states?

  66. Paula-

    One of my heroes, Thomas Sowell, wrote a book called The Vision of the Annointed. In it he talks about one of the classic mistakes committed by the holier thant thou leftists, and that is the failure to accept feedback from reality. The passage you quote about Obama is symptomatic of that disease and typically it causes their initiatives to fail at great cost to society.

  67. The whiner here wasn’t Hillary, it was the media all along and continues to be. How dare anyone pick on the chosen one?

    They may try to argue that Hillary is at fault for what is happening to their poor baby right now. They may ignore all the gaffes their chosen one continues to employ, but overall, Obama’s arrogance is doing him in and I’m sure there are enough dems out there who are going to put the blame squarely on him when the finger pointing gets started.

  68. debbie Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    the amazing thing about this election is the revelation of the “true colors” of those we have admired and adored.

    Names I never thought I’d cringe at hearing, Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, and yes even Soro’s.
    I was a true blue democrat to the core. They were the heroes of my cause.
    ***************
    ***************
    The only Liberal who was in the race was Hillary…I have no idea what these other people are but they are not Liberals.

  69. MO not attending the 911 Memorial Services was a huge mistake.

    Which 2 states lost the most people in the WTC attack?

    NJ, where JM is within 3 of BO
    and NYS

    People notice those things

  70. From RBO:
    “Once again, you simply can’t make this shit up. Guess we can add this to Obama’s burgeoning list of flip flops, adjustments or just plain LIES.
    Listen closely. In this single video clip, which repeats his words several times to make sure you hear and hear correctly, Obama said on C-SPAN’s 9/11 Presidential Forum:

    … had I been president at the time [i.e. had I been President George W. Bush] … uh I … I … uh … do have to say, the president did rally the nation in a speech at Ground Zero, and, subsequently, uh .. we went after those who attacked us, appropriately.

    http: / / therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    Un-fucking believable!!!!!

  71. Gingrich says Obama erred through ‘arrogance’ in not choosing Clinton as VP
    Associated Press
    Article Last Updated: 09/11/2008 07:58:08 AM AKDT

    ATLANTA (AP) – Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says Sen. Barack Obama made an egregious error in not selecting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as his vice presidential nominee in the Democratic race.
    Gingrich says Clinton would have unified the party in one evening and Obama’s campaign would have been almost unbeatable.

    He says Republican Sen. John McCain would not have chosen Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate had Clinton been added to the Democrat’s ticket.

    A Republican, Gingrich listed other errors he believes the Obama campaign has made in its bid for the White House: shying away from public financing and announcing Obama as a “citizen of the world.”

    The comments came yesterday (Wednesday) during Gingrich’s news conference on his second annual “Solutions Day.”

    To contact the Newsroom, call 907-273-3186.

  72. had I been president at the time [i.e. had I been President George W. Bush] … uh I … I … uh … do have to say, the president did rally the nation in a speech at Ground Zero, and, subsequently, uh .. we went after those who attacked us, appropriately.

    http: / / therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    Un-fucking believable!!!!!
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    As that never say shit if he had a mouthful pundit brian williams would say “yet another example of the Illionos senator SHIFTING TO THE CENTER as every candidate does in a general election”.

  73. Wow on a grand scale

    Zogby: New Hampshire McCain-49.1% Obama-42.8%

    State: New Hampshire

    Updated: 9/13/2008

    Summary: McCain – 49.1% Obama – 42.8% Not Sure/Other – 8.1%

    “Still very close here. In a state that loves John McCain, and handed Obama a bruising defeat, McCain has a higher favorability rating.”

    Electoral Votes: 4, Too close to call

  74. Besides Mo not attending the 9/11 ceremonies that new ad of Obama’s 1982 will make people think of Ronald Regan and his defense policies. People on the east coast can not afford to have a wimp as president, since we are the likiest targets of terrorists attacks.

  75. We no longer need the late night comics. All we need to do is follow barack around with a video camera. His big mouth and arrogance are the gift that keeps giving.

  76. I know i don’t trust Zogby but its fun to read

    Zogby: McCain Opens Up Five Point Lead in Pennsylvania

    Summary: McCain – 49.1% Obama – 44.3% Not Sure/Other – 6.6%

    “This is a classic case of polling as a snapshot in time. We’re turning Pennsylvania purple today, as McCain takes a small edge. But as in Ohio, we are watching this closely and things could change in this classically blue state.”

  77. SHV Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    From RBO:
    —————–
    the WORM will be that he meant Afghanistan and not Iraq..

  78. Florida Battle Ground State? Barack Obama dropping the Sunshine State

    scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/13/florida-battle-ground-state-barack-obama-can-soon-be-saying-goodbye-to-the-sunshine-state/

    Florida is close to being taken off the table as a battleground state and painted red.

    Could Barack Obama being saying goodbye to Florida? With 350 paid staffers, 50 field offices and spending an estimated $8 million in campaign ads in the “Battle ground” Sunshine state, Obama may soon be saying goodbye to Florida. With all the money, assets and resources used in Florida there is little to show for Team Obama. As stated in the St. Petersburg Times, Obama is farther behind in the state than John Kerry was at this point in 2004, even though McCain began buying Florida TV ads only last week.

    Presently, Real Clear Politics has McCain/Palin slightly ahead in the electoral college.

    He is farther behind in the state than John Kerry was at this point in 2004, even though McCain began buying Florida TV ads only last week. By this time in 2004, the Bush-Cheney campaign had spent $13-million on Florida TV. In the rolling average of Florida polls compiled by the Web site RealClearPolitics.com, Obama has never taken the lead over McCain in Florida, and the latest average shows him behind by 5 percentage points. They were tied in early August.

    Four Florida polls came out this week, with one showing a tied race, the others showing McCain leading by 5 to 8 percentage points.

    “They’ve had everything going for them — momentum, enthusiasm, money, a complicit national press, a stiff wind at his back for a long time, and he hasn’t been able pull ahead in Florida,” said Republican strategist Alberto Martinez of Tallahassee. “I think Florida is one of those states that’s taken off the board pretty soon, as they start focusing resources on states they can win.”

    According to The Other McCain there are three main reasons for Obama’s failings in Florida … the military vote, the Cuban-American vote and the geezer vote. Of course how does one expect to attract the senior vote when Obama mocks McCain’s disability for not being able to use email. Also, as discussed at The American Spectator it is remarkable just how thrown off their game and disorientated the Obama campaign has become since McCain picked Sarah Palin to be his VP.

  79. The only Liberal who was in the race was Hillary…I have no idea what these other people are but they are not Liberals.
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    Correct: Trying to figure out who barack is is like trying to nail jello to a wall or he is like the song

    When I am not near
    The one I love
    I love the one
    I’m near (provided they cough up the dough).

  80. Obama’s options are being limited by the hour.

    Seriously at this point he has to hold all the states Kerry won and come up with something else.

  81. moononpluto Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Florida Battle Ground State? Barack Obama dropping the Sunshine State
    **************
    **************
    If that is true the “burn rate” must be higher and the fund raising wore than reported by the NYT. It’s nearly mid-Sept and I still haven’t seen Obama’s August $$$ numbers.

  82. Obama has to take all 3 of NM, NV and CO or flip Ohio, florida looks out of it now, McCain only has to hold all his other states and just 1 of them, McCain would win if he flips either PA or Michigan or even Wash or Minn or heaven forbid NJ.

    McCain has more options than Obama at present

  83. So Obama has to decide whether to camp out in

    1 : Ohio and PA and Michigan or
    2 : Camp out in Colorado, NM or NV.

    I personally think he’ll go for the first option of the NE. What he never anticipated though is the danger coming from

    3 : Washington, Minnesota, Michigan and NJ.

  84. moononpluto Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
    ************
    ************

    It’s now McCain’s race to loose. I can’t think of anything that Obama can do to reverse the slide. We know most of the bad news that is out “there” that the general voting public hasn’t heard yet. The Obama campaign had exhausted all of the good news about Obama by early March…there just isn’t anything else there.

  85. At some point his contributors have got to be asking themselves whether they are not just throwing their money away. He has got a huge campaign organization which requires constant transfusion of cash to maintain it. It is stupid money.

  86. It’s now McCain’s race to loose. I can’t think of anything that Obama can do to reverse the slide. We know most of the bad news that is out “there” that the general voting public hasn’t heard yet. The Obama campaign had exhausted all of the good news about Obama by early March…there just isn’t anything else there.
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    This is the time to be alert and aggressive. Hannity interview of Palin should be good. She is a good debater just needs to be well prepared and let sara be sara. The ban the books meme big media was pushing has been defused I guess. But if you have a guy like this on the ropes it is a mistake ever let him up.

  87. Well some people are realising they are chucking money down the rabbit hole and a gopher is running away with it.

    Sooner or later people realise the war is lost and start switching.

  88. Gingrich says Obama erred through ‘arrogance’ in not choosing Clinton as VP
    Associated Press
    Article Last Updated: 09/11/2008 07:58:08 AM AKDT

    ATLANTA (AP) – Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says Sen. Barack Obama made an egregious error in not selecting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as his vice presidential nominee in the Democratic race
    ====================

    Heh. I’d like to think he was too arrogant to admit that HIllary privately turned him down — so now people thnk he was too arrogant to ask her. 🙂

  89. When i tend to have someone the ropes, i like to batter them repeatedly until they can longer stand.

    Its called burying them with a spade.

  90. OK, I’m sorry if someone already answered this question, but DID we get rid of Keith Olbermann on MSNBC? And how? Also, who else did we get rid of? I can’t stand MSNBC and never watch it any more, so I am glad if some of these sexist male anchors go down.

    Also, djia, thank you so much for your synopsis and excerpts from the UK Telegraph writer Tim Shipman’s article about how Obama is so arrogant that he doesn’t return the phone calls of governors and senators who are trying to help him win and also panicking because Obama is starting to tank.

    Does anyone remember that “Boy Genius” Karl Rove predicted that Obama’s prim and smug demeanor when he said, “You’re likable enough, Hillary,” without making eye contact with her would hurt him? Rove was the first one to say it, so far as I know, so maybe he is a genius.

  91. maria, KO was not gotten rid of. He was demoted from being in the anchor spot when covering the debates and election night, but he is still there at MSNBC.

  92. basil9 Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    MO not going to Ground Zero is a MAjOR major ERROR. I HOPE HANNITY AND DOBBS beat this home…

  93. So if Obama is doing “attack ads” now, does that mean he has gone negative? You know, the very thing he and the media slandered Hillary for?

    What happened to the campaign of hope?

  94. When Bambi says he’s taking off the gloves, that means that he wants his sycophants in the media to attack. It’s what happened in September last year when Russert and Williams did the bash-Hillary debate and began a month of media that took her down for Obama.

    He’s counting on the same thing now. The media is trying, but people have seen this movie before.

  95. Jan-quite an article you posted above. You may want to post the entire text because it is that good. Here is something that caught my eye and so many people on this site have echoed this sentiment:

    Obama’s adviser said the attacks had misfired. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”

  96. gonzotx Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
    basil9 Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    MO not going to Ground Zero is a MAjOR major ERROR. I HOPE HANNITY AND DOBBS beat this home…
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    If is an issue of retroactivity. 9/11/01 was before barack became a presidential candidate, so she was not proud of her country yet.

  97. # gonzotx Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
    basil9 Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
    MO not going to Ground Zero is a MAjOR major ERROR. I HOPE HANNITY AND DOBBS beat this home…
    **************
    **************
    The bigger possible error is that the Obama campaign lied about it.

  98. Thanks, HillaryforTexas! So Keith Olbermann was demoted, in essence. That’s a start. We’re already making a difference!!

    JanH, Please publish the entire text or a link because I want to read it.

    wbboei, You said, “Obama’s adviser said the attacks had misfired. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”

    Does that quotation come from somewhere? Could you give us the link?

    I am very tired and have a sinus infection, so if I said or asked something dumb, sorry.

  99. Here is the full article:

    Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support:

    Palinmania has washed away the Democrat’s lead in key statesSarah Baxter, Washington

    THE high-heeled, moose-hunting governor of Alaska has sent Barack Obama’s campaign into a state of panic as support for the Democratic presidential candidate haemorrhages in the battleground states he must win to reach the White House.

    Sarah Palin, 44, continued to scythe through Obama’s support among women by taunting the first potential black president for declining to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate and by declaring that questions about juggling work and family were “kind of irrelevant” in the modern age.

    The mother of five, who has been called Xena, the warrior princess, said in a television interview: “I think he’s regretting not picking [Clinton] now, I do. What determination and grit and even grace through some tough shots that were fired her way – she handled those well,” Palin said.

    She presented herself as a champion of no-fuss, no-non-sense working mothers. “Of course you can be the vice-presi-dent and you can raise a family,” she said brightly. “I’m the governor and I’m raising a family.”

    I n t h e f a c e o f P a l i n ’ s onslaught, Obama has continued to base his campaign on the outdated claim that John McCain and his running mate represent four more years of a failed Bush administration.

    A senior Obama adviser said candidly that claim did not work. “I don’t think it’s sticking. The McCain campaign has stolen our message of ‘change’ – the very thing we’ve been campaigning on for 20 months. Well, who’s the change? It’s McCain.” Palin’s astounding rise has left the Obama camp floundering for a new narrative that will capture the imagination of voters in the run-up to the November 4 election. “There is overreaction and panic,” the official admitted. “The hard part for Barack is she’s stolen his thunder a bit. It has knocked us off our game.”

    In a series of interviews with ABC, Palin brushed aside charges that she had changed her mind about a notoriously expensive “Bridge to Nowhere” in Alaska and distorted her record of seeking congressional subsidies for her home state. The only “gotcha” moment came when she was at a loss to understand the concept of the Bush doctrine, defined by Charles Gibson, the interviewer, as the right to self-defence by taking preemptive action against terrorists. Gibson, however, has run into criticism from conservatives for patronising Palin over a doctrine whose definition has changed and is not widely recognised outside the world of Washington foreign policy analysts.

    Obama’s adviser said the attacks had misfired. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”

    The Democrat cheers that greeted the selection of veteran senator Joe Biden, 65, the chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, as Obama’s running mate have died away.

    “If we had picked Hillary Clinton, we would have saved ourselves three months of anguish over the summer,” the official said. “If we had spent the time unifying the party, we’d be in a totally different place. I’m not sure McCain would have picked Palin if Hillary was VP.”

    Palinmania has washed away Obama’s polling leads in several swing states that he had been counting on to win.

    A clutch of polls last week showed McCain ahead by five points in Missouri, four in Ohio, four in Virginia and eight in Florida. New Mexico and N e v a d a , t w o t o p O b a m a targets, recorded narrow leads for McCain. Other states that had appeared to be comfortably in the Democratic camp now look precarious. In blue-collar New Jersey, Obama’s lead has shrunk to three points; in latte-sipping Washing-ton, it is down to two.

    He is still narrowly ahead in Colorado and Michigan, where Palin has been campaigning energetically, but the ground is shifting beneath his feet. Advisers fear the get-out-the-vote machine that served Obama so well in the primary campaign against Clinton will be overwhelmed by Palin’s legion of female fans. “Are we running a primary campaign in a general election?” the adviser wondered. “Our campaign has an unbelievable ground game. It’s far superior to McCain’s but at the end of the day, people vote on emotion. Do I like you? Do I trust you? Do you care about me?”

    A poll by the Associated Press last week showed that white women preferred McCain to Obama by 53% to 40%.

    “People still don’t know what Obama stands for. There’s a perceived elitism and something aloof about him. They just don’t connect with him,” the adviser added. “As a person, Palin is very intriguing. She’s attractive and funny and she’s a hell of a speaker. There’s an element of ‘she’s like us’.”

    It is all the more galling for Obama’s supporters that Palin has been in the news for little more than a fortnight. Voters told pollsters last summer that they had heard too much about Obama but they cannot get enough of Palin for now.

    She remains a high-risk choice for McCain, who has been overshadowed by Palin’s role as “campaigner-in-chief”. The crowds melted away for McCain’s first solo appearance without her last week at a Pennsylvania diner where he was heckled by Obama supporters.

    There is still much to learn about the Alaska governor before voters go to the polls. Investigators in her home state are seeking to subpoena Todd Palin, her husband, for his alleged role in Troopergate – a dispute over the alleged dismissal of a police chief for refusing to sack Palin’s former brother-in-law, a state trooper who had fallen out with her family.

    The tabloid National Enquirer, basking in new-found credibility after it exposed the former White House candidate John Edwards as an adulterer, claimed in its latest issue that Palin’s 19-year-old son Track was a regular drug abuser who was packed off to the army to clean up. His unit deployed to Iraq last week on the anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

    The Obama campaign expects support for Palin to subside. It takes comfort from memories of the collapse of Clinton, who was leading by double-digits in the polls when she mishandled a question about driving licences for immigrants. Her standing plummeted.

    However, there is little time for voter disillusion to set in. Palin’s working-class, Wal-Mart-mom appeal and moving life story are insulating her from attack.

    Her decision to raise Trig, a Down’s syndrome baby, and support for her pregnant 17-year-old daughter Bristol have been widely praised.

    At a rally attended by 23,000 supporters in Fairfax, Virginia, last week, Jayne Young, 57, a registered independent, said: “My heart goes out to her family. I liked what she said about being ‘just an average American family’. You can be one of those übermoms and on your kids 100% of the time and they still go off the rails.”

    Katherine Hoppe, 65, was wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the slogan “Another Democrat for McCain”. She worked as a volunteer at Hillary Clinton’s headquarters in Ballston, Virginia, and was present at her concession speech to Obama.

    “I felt horrible,” she said. “When McCain announced that he had picked Palin, I went crazy. When you’re my age and Hillary’s, you want to give to the next generation. Hillary did that. She gave us Sarah.”

    Clinton is said by friends to be “gutted” that she put 18m cracks in the glass ceiling for women only to have Palin kick in the pane. But she is thought to share Palin’s conviction that the media are treating the Alaskan governor unfairly.

    Mark Penn, Clinton’s former chief strategist, said: “The media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they’re not doing on the other candidates. People are going to conclude that they’re giving her a rougher time. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves.”

    Some conservatives are concerned that Republicans are overplaying the sexist card. Earlier this year, Palin accused Clinton of “whining” about the attacks on her, but the McCain camp worked itself into an even greater lather last week over Obama’s comments about “putting lipstick on a pig” – regarded as an insult to their “pitbull in lipstick”.

    Ramesh Ponnuru, an editor with the conservative journal National Review, complained: “The Republicans are coming across as whiny grievance-mon-gers. Don’t they realise that this harping on ambiguous slights is what people hate about political correctness? It was bad enough when liberals were trying to destroy Palin. Now Republicans are trashing her brand. They’re undermining her appeal as a different, tougher kind of female politician.”

    After repeated jabs from McCain, including the false charge that Obama supported sex education for kinder-garteners, the Illinois senator hit back with a negative advertisement mocking his 72-year-old rival for being out of date and out of touch with computer technology, including e-mail.

    It backfired when it emerged that McCain was unable to type because he was injured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

    The Obama adviser said the Democratic candidate should remain true to himself. “He has to be who he is. When he was totally himself, he was doing so well. He should keep at the things he cares about instead of having people turn him into a pretzel.”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4749000.ece

  100. The Iowa City Press-Citizen devoted an entire opinion page to my rebuttal of my critics (“Why I’ve left the Democrats” op-ed started it all), and then published another insulting political cartoon and more criticism in letters to the editor. I’m a heretic, an infidel, to the Republic of Johnson County, Iowa.

    One person published in a letter to the editor today, Leroy Powell of Wellman, Iowa, defended me and complimented me. That means a lot. Wellman is a very small town in Iowa.

    Thank you, all of you who helped me out on line. My column had elicited 364 comments last time I checked, perhaps a new record. Some locals are defending me and helping me out, too.

    Thank you, Maria

  101. henry,

    I like your idea for an SNL skit! It’s too bad that Saturday Night Live is running scared of all the Obama fascists right now. They had the right idea when they mocked Princess Obama for getting nothing but soft lobs from the media, while Hillary got all of the tough questions.

    Jon Stewart and Samantha Bee betrayed us as well. Samantha Bee REALLY disappointed me when she made a catty reference to “Katie Couric doing the news like a girl.” Unless I misunderstood, that was a low blow.

    There’s hardly anything left to watch or listen to any more.

  102. Thanks, JanH!

    Good job finding these articles!

    Has anyone noticed how columnist Froma Harrop has fallen down on the job? She used to be a feminist. Now she’s abysmal, just like Gloria Steinem.

  103. I went to a legal seminar about how same-sex parents legally adopt or gain parental rights – and because of BO refusing to take public financing – money for initiatives to battle CA’s Prop 8’s anti-gay marriage amendment are being sucked away by the BO campaign.

    legal marriage also has repercussions on court decisions on parental status – and i cross my fingers and will work hard to defeat Prop 8, but if we lose, and if BO loses in Nov, then, I will harshly blame the Democratic leadership and the deluded obobots for thinking they could stake our lives, our issues, our families on the fact that they wanted to pursue their own selfish dreams and back Obama who is ultimately unelectable.

    I know some of the obots will be blaming Clinton Democrats for going to McCain but I know no matter what I do and who I vote for, the country is large, and not everyone prioritizes gay marriage, the environment, etc – not everyone in this country who are Democrats are single issue voters. THEY ARE TO BLAME for shoving the Fraud down our throats.

  104. SNL is or at least was the most irreverent show on tv. I was shocked to hear that waffles was going to be on. It was after all SNL that shined the light on the egregious media bias against Hillary. I do not think SN L is running scared nor do I buy that bambi opted out in deference to those who might be in harms way due to Ike. I would lay money down that they looked at the script and he or his people said oh no way can’t do this. He’d have garnered huge ratings had he fulfilled his obligation and could have taken that oppurtunity to speak to America and request help. he makes me sick.

  105. mariaconz; see the link JanH posted at 5:51 above, and posted the full text posted at 7:09. The quote appears at the bottom of paragraph 13.

  106. turndownobama-com:

    great article from Timesonline:

    this passage is great, but F*ck the BO campaign for their arrogance – “ego first, country second”:

    Obama’s adviser said the attacks had misfired. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”

    The Democrat cheers that greeted the selection of veteran senator Joe Biden, 65, the chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, as Obama’s running mate have died away.

    “If we had picked Hillary Clinton, we would have saved ourselves three months of anguish over the summer,” the official said. “If we had spent the time unifying the party, we’d be in a totally different place. I’m not sure McCain would have picked Palin if Hillary was VP.”

  107. Forgot to mention this the other day when matt Damon’s pontification was getting so much notice. Of course the young not untalented actor respects someone who takes anothers words gives them a little polish and then sells them as thier own.

    I heard it is common for struggling writers in Hollywood to surrender the credit for scripts for a nice pay check. you pay for it they sign a contract you change a word or two and you call it your own. Not saying anyone has done this but a writer writes and from some we have heard nothing again.

  108. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”
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    Used properly, that is a smoking gun statement that bambi cannot live down, nor wash away a word of it with all his celebrated eloquence uh uh uh . . . . .

  109. Has anyone of the pundits on cable news taken a moment to praise the courage of Bristol Palin. People who want to scream about a woman’s choice have to remember that it is a choice to also carry a baby to term and then to make so many other decisions. Wasn’t so long ago that people of means hid “unwanted” pregnancies. For young girls today to have a family standing behind her with open arms of support is an excellent message. To act as such on a national stage. I salute the whole family.

  110. turndownobama-com Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
    Re Palin:
    Obama’s adviser said the attacks had misfired. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4749000.ece

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    That says it all, doesn’t it? Arrogance and taking women for granted will be the downfall of the BO campaign. Let’s hope, it lasts until Nov 4th.

  111. That is a great article. Anyone else notice how the British press has the best articles on the election?

    BTW, BO’s going more negative. His spokesman called McCain’s the sleaziest in modern political history, lol.

  112. # henry Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Has anyone of the pundits on cable news taken a moment to praise the courage of Bristol Palin. People who want to scream about a woman’s choice have to remember that it is a choice to also carry a baby to term and then to make so many other decisions. Wasn’t so long ago that people of means hid “unwanted” pregnancies. For young girls today to have a family standing behind her with open arms of support is an excellent message. To act as such on a national stage. I salute the whole family.
    ************
    ************
    For me that was one of the best moment of that evening. Bristol and her BF holding hands, standing up on the front row, and showing her “baby bump”. What a great “Fuck you” to all of the scum that had been trashing the family.

  113. Message to Obama’s spokesperson:

    No, McCain’s campaign isn’t the sleaziest ever. Take a look in the mirror and what do you see? Obama and his creepy followers tried to destroy Hillary and are now trying to destroy the opposition in the most underhanded and sleaziest ways ever.

  114. Do you remember those superdelegate who told us stop sending your cards and letters we have heard enough from you and my head hurts and zap goes the email (deleted not read comes the acknowelgement). In denver they got drunk and covered themselves with glory (except for those who stuck by our girl). They must feel real proud of themselves now for taking their solemn duties so lightly.

  115. “At the end of the day, women are sick of men running everything. They’re thinking, ‘Enough already.’ It has nothing to do with what she stands for. Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”

    That’s what liberal columnists like Bob Herbert and so many others just don’t get.

  116. henry, I feel the same. I find it a wonderful example for the country, how the Palin family, and the McCain family as well, walked out on a national stage and unashamedly supported that young woman. No cringing, no apologies, no sheepishness, no rushing her home to AK to hide from the press. They said to the world and the nasty press jackals “She’s our daughter, and we love her and support her, and you people are just going to have to deal with it.”

  117. SHV
    4 days go my twenty year old niece informed me that she was “in trouble” I spoke with her at length and she is six weeks along but I told her whatever she decision she made I had her back. My decision was not hers. Hers is to have her baby. I still got her back. So looks like I will be wiping up a little one again. Is there no end?

  118. no quarter:
    ***************
    We have now reached a point in time that words fail to capture the insanity and hypocrisy that is Hollywood and it is all because of Sarah Palin. The list of Hollywood celebs weighing in to explain why Sarah Palin is a toothless, brainless, money grubbing bimbo that they want to fuck on a set of Barack Obama bedsheets is growing by the minute. I can’t make this stuff up.

    Let’s start with Michael Seitzman, who wrote the screenplay for North Country, a drama starring Charlize Theron who played the role of a woman who worked in an iron ore mine in Minnesota, was sexually harassed, sued and won. Excuse my profanity, BUT JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS ASSHOLE? Seitzman gets creds in Hollywood for writing a fictional account of a lone woman battling the big, bad world of miners, unions, and management. His story is not what really happened, but who cares, it made a good story. So yesterday he writes this trash:

    I realized three things tonight. For one, if you are a McCain/Palin/Bush voter, you and I do not have a difference of opinion. We have a difference in brain power. Two, she really is as ignorant as I feared. And, three, she really is kinda hot. Basically, I want to have sex with her on my Barack Obama sheets while my wife reads aloud from the Constitution. (My wife is cool with this if I promise to “first wipe off Palin’s tranny makeup.” I married well.)

    Now, I want to be clear and speak directly to those of you who LOVED that Palin interview. You’re an idiot. I mean that. This is not one of those cases where we’re going to agree to disagree. This isn’t one of those situations where we debate it passionately and then walk away thinking that the other guy is wrong but argued well. I’m not going to think of you as a thoughtful but misguided person with different ideas who still really cares about the country and the world. No, sorry, not this time. This time, if you watched those interview excerpts and weren’t scared out of your freakin’ mind, then you’re mentally ill, mentally disabled, or mentally disturbed. What you are NOT is responsible, informed, curious, thoughtful, mature, educated, empathetic, or remotely serious. I mean it.

    Is this your typical Obama supporter? Where does one begin to talk about a thought process so twisted, so evil, and so devoid of basic human kindness?

    He wants to fuck Sarah in front of his wife? That fantasy tells you alot about a man who gets aroused by debasing and abusing women. You see he not only wants to satisfy his own physical lust on Governor Palin but he wants his wife to watch. Of course there is a subliminal homosexual thing going on. He suggests that Sarah Palin is actually a man (e.g., calls her a “tranny” aka transexual). So, this is the kind of guy Obama wants to bring to Washington to transform American society?

    If you fell like throwing up or punching Seitzman in the balls (on wait, you can’t, because he doesn’t have any) then count yourself normal. You are still in touch with your humanity.

    But hell, Seitzman isn’t the only nutcase. You have Whoopi Goldberg asking John McCain if he wants her to enslave her. You have Pamela “I Love to Suck C**k on Video” Anderson talking about what a despicable person Sarah Palin is.

    Matt Damon, who is a great actor because he can convince you on film that he is a decent human being, weighs in with the laugher that Sarah Palin would be a disaster. Damon opines:

    “It’s like a really bad Disney movie, “The Hockey Mom.’ Oh, I’m just a hockey mom from Alaska, and she’s president,” said Damon. “She’s facing down Vladimir Putin and using the folksy stuff she learned at the hockey rink. It’s absurd.”

    Anybody up for a debate between Damon and Palin? I am. That woman would dust his elitist, smarmy ass. Little did we know that Matt Damon was not acting in the movie Class Ties, where he played an upper crust, anti-Semite wasting his time at a prep school. He really is a complete ass.

    Sarah Palin’s real life, without embellishment, is something that Hollywood would put in a movie. I think what bothers the Hollywood elite so much is that her story is true. Most of what they write and produce are based on lies. They will take a true story and embellish, shade, shape, and enrich. But the real Sarah Palin defies them. They’re fantasy is not as good as her reality. Let’s face it. They are simply jealous that this accomplished woman is kicking the butt of their latest fantasy figure, Barack Obama.

  119. Glad to see Dumbass canceled on SNL. it should have been a no brainer. they knew it was coming over a week ago.

    Speaking of which…

    Mom is w/o power and water, and will probably be a week. She says it’s a warzone. Coming from my mom who has been thru dozens of these things and says this is the worst ever…it has me worried. She has a generator, lots of food, but is worried bc it is so bad.

    Dad lost his chimney and his roof at 3am. No phone, spotty cell service, no water and no power- prolly a week for him, too. Single guy didn’t stock up so much. He was tarping his roof when we spoke (3 cell calls in 5 mins bc service kept dropping but at least I know he is okay). my sister went over to help with some lighter debris clean up. She says he refuses to come stay at her house. 🙁

    My sister lost some shingles, part of her fence and a tree. She has power, water and phone service. Her 5 kids are going nuts with boredom- get this they don’t have board games??? Just video games. Weird. We always had board games. Hell, we went thru plenty of hurricanes, etc. as kids. We would have been killed by our parents during storms if we couldn’t entertain ourselves.

    Most stores are still closed. Same with gas stations- no power, no pumps. And shelves were bare when they closed up. oh, and one more thing- someone broke into a Wal-mart during the storm and set it on fire. the sprinklers saved it, but the darndest things happen.

  120. Does anyone remember that “Boy Genius” Karl Rove predicted that Obama’s prim and smug demeanor when he said, “You’re likable enough, Hillary,” without making eye contact with her would hurt him? Rove was the first one to say it, so far as I know, so maybe he is a genius
    ——————————————–
    One thing is for sure: he is a damnsite smarter than gogzilla. Fight day and I am still having nightmares of that video of two porkers (Roll’n roll’n roll’ rawhide Martin and little ms. muppet fell on her tuffet on that sawdust barrom floor Brazille doing the Lapague (sp) that Parisian dance from the 1920s where they throw eachother around under the influence of john barleycorn-demon rum. If this continues I will have to see Modos Maureen Dowd’s shrink/

  121. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck were capable of writing an Acadamy AWARD WINNING SCRIPT.
    BWAHAHAAHAHAHAQHA.
    yeah i Guess so if someone else writes it.

  122. # henry Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    SHV
    4 days go my twenty year old niece informed me that she was “in trouble” I spoke with her at length and she is six weeks along but I told her whatever she decision she made I had her back. My decision was not hers. Hers is to have her baby. I still got her back. So looks like I will be wiping up a little one again. Is there no end?
    ************
    That is what “choice” means. What the anti-choice people forget that it would just as easy for the government to force a woman to have an abortion as to force a woman into child birth.

  123. Oakie: thank god none of your family was injured. Thats always the first thing you worry about. Houses, downed power lines, etc.

    So he cancelled SNL. Must be time for another well deserved vacation in Hawaii. Whats it been since the last one-3 weeks? That is a long time to go without water.

  124. neeta
    I may be wrong but i thought in china it was only one child and everyone wanted a boy villages were the sex could not be determined sent thier girls off to orphanages. please correct me if I am wrong

  125. Obama camp jumps on Greenspan interview to attack McCain
    1 hour ago

    CHICAGO (AFP) — Barack Obama’s White House campaign Saturday seized on a warning from former Federal Reserve boss Alan Greenspan about John McCain’s tax plans to portray the Republican as economically reckless.

    In an interview with Bloomberg Television Friday, the legendary ex-chairman of the US central bank said the nation could not afford 3.3 trillion dollars of tax cuts proposed by McCain without matching cuts in spending.

    Greenspan, a long-time friend of McCain and a Republican, said about the Arizona senator’s plans to extend massive tax cuts imposed by President George W. Bush: “I’m not in favor of financing tax cuts with borrowed money.”

    McCain has said he would pay for his cuts by ending pet funding projects for US lawmakers’ districts known as “earmarks.”

    But Senator Claire McCaskill said that would save no more than 17 billion dollars and was a “drop in the bucket,” expressing frustration that “no one is holding John McCain’s feet to the fire” on how he would pay for his cuts.

    “It’s time for John McCain to back up his claim of honor by being honest with the American people on how he’s going to pay for his plan,” she said on a media call. “That’s what Alan Greenspan was talking about yesterday.”

    Obama is promising to cut taxes for 95 percent of all working Americans, and accuses McCain of distorting his own proposals by running advertisements that claim most voters would pay higher taxes under an Obama administration.

    The Democrat says he would be fiscally responsible and match the cuts with an array of revenue measures.

    The measures include higher taxes on those earning more than 250,000 dollars a year, ending the war in Iraq and so saving 10 billion dollars a month, and scrapping hefty tax breaks for major companies.

    Laura Tyson, a former chief economic adviser to president Bill Clinton who is now a counselor to Obama, said that “McCain has said his professor and mentor is Alan Greenspan.”

    “And that’s why Alan’s comments yesterday are so very important. He’s saying look, these numbers just don’t add up and it’s not good for the US economy to finance large tax cuts with borrowed money,” she said on the call.

    afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hZrBt31eWuoRhgqVi70ADEIg7dlA
    *****************************************************
    It has been my understanding that McCain is planning to cut spending and Gov. Palin said yesterday to Charlie Gibson that they plan to have every dept except Veteran Adminstration to look for effeciencies to cut spending and balance the budget.

    I no I heard sarah say that while Charlie frown and shook his finger.

  126. Okie: Glad that your family is okay. I saw some pictures on FOX, and the devastation looks pretty bad. The flooding is incredible.

    Neeta: Yes, it was China, and I think they ended up with a shortage of girls. I don’t know, if that policy has been reversed. Abortion? I don’t know.

  127. Another thing that caught my eye in the Telegraph article on the race. The reporter brought up the point that Axelrod’s never won a race where he faced a strong Repub candidate.

  128. # henry Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    neeta
    I may be wrong but i thought in china it was only one child and everyone wanted a boy villages were the sex could not be determined sent thier girls off to orphanages. please correct me if I am wrong
    **********
    **********
    India also..It is a big business to have an ultra-sound machine and go to villages and determine the sex of the fetus. It is now illegal but I think still a booming business. About five years ago, I read a study where they determined the sex of the aborted fetus…IIRC in 50000 there was one male..probably an error. In India, for the first time, pre-natal sex selection is changing the male/female ratio in society.

  129. Palin Addresses Hurricane Ike’s Wrath
    by Shushannah Walshe
    Anchorage, Alaska–

    Before leaving her home state today, Sarah Palin held a Bon Voyage rally at the brand new convention center here. Wearing a black suit and a rhinestone encrusted ALASKA pin, she addressed Hurricane Ike’s wrath on Texas and the Gulf Coast. She urged the hometown crowd to use their Alaskan hearts to help those afflicted adding that they can use the campaign website as a central point for relief donations:

    “Today and in the days ahead the American heart is going to be on display. That’s what happens in times of tragedy and in times of crisis like we’re seeing again on the Texas coast,” Palin said. “It’s a time when America’s best rise to the top, and our heart is displayed. America is going to stand shoulder to shoulder with the victims of Hurricane Ike’s fury.”

    She stayed away from attacking the Democratic ticket and did not mention her rivals at all. Earlier today, the McCain campaign put out a statement criticizing Barack Obama for attacking John McCain at his event this morning in Manchester, NH while Hurricane Ike hit the Gulf Coast. The Obama campaign replied back strongly pointing out that the McCain campaign’s television ads–which Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton called “discredited” with “disgusting lies”–have been running all day while the storm bears down.

    Palin did praise her running mate and told her fellow Alaskans that they would “love” McCain and he would protect their rights, “We’ve got a little travel planned for the next 52 days but I’ll be home come November and I would like to bring along my friend –our friend Senator John McCain as the President elect,” Palin told the cheering crowd, “He is there to protect our 2nd amendment rights and school choice and equality and life and energy independence. He is Alaska’s friend.”

    The excited crowd of less than 1,000 in the new Dena’INA Civic and Convention Center held signs that said “Natives for Sarah” and supporters yelled, “Go Sarah!” during her remarks.

    Palin addressed the economic problems that many Americans face even calling the high unemployment rate “unacceptable” and saying the GOP ticket would bring tax relief to all Americans:

    “Here in Alaska, we’re trusting people with their money. And it is tough times across our country. All around America, people they are working so hard right now, so fearful of job loss, we have about 6.1 percent unemployment rate. That’s unacceptable across our country,” Palin said, “John and I are ready to do the same as we’re doing here in Alaska. Returning surplus, returning the money to the people so they can spend it best. We’re gonna do that. We’re gonna get tax relief to all Americans across this great country.”

    She told her fellow Alaskans that she was humbled to be chosen as McCain’s number two and that she was grateful for their support. She said she was doing it for them—for Alaska: “the last frontier.”

    In a lighter moment, Palin mentioned her family and said that her husband, Todd is more used to the 2,000 mile Iron Dog competition than the campaign trail, but that an “Iron Dogger” will be able to “hold up” on the trail. She also said that her 7-year-old daughter Piper is the campaign’s secret weapon, “Watch out for that little Piper. John McCain’s says she’s his best campaigner and she’ll catch you if you have one hair out of place!”

    Palin was referring to the now famous moment during her speech at the Republican National Convention when the cameras caught Piper licking her hand and then combing down her baby brother, Trig’s hair.

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/13/palin-addresses-hurricane-ikes-wrath/
    *****************************************************
    Damn she,’s good!

    Gov. Palin almost make me want to become a republican. The New Democratic? Party has a lot to answer for also…RETIRE John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi by voting them out of Congressional seats.

    Vote Ed O’Reilly and Cindy Sheehan you be doing your country and the Democratic party a big favor by tossing out the garbage.

    ALSO DO NOT DONATE A DIME TO THE DNC OR KING OBAMA…instead why not DONATE TO THE Red Cross @ 1-800-RED CROSS or http://www.REDCROSS.ORG for the victims of this huricane season.

  130. Good Poll News for McCain in Purple Minnesota [Jack Fowler]

    A new poll from SurveyUSA (asked of 552 registered Minnesota voters between September 10-11) shows John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin has moved independent voters towards the GOP ticket, while Obama’s choice of Joe Biden has bombed.

    The results of one survey question — “Does John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate make you more likely to vote for him? Less likely? Or will it make no difference? — showed a positive net between “more likely” and “less likely” of 60% among Republicans and 10% among Independents.

    When similarly asked “Does Barack Obama’s choice of Joe Biden as his running mate make you more likely to vote for him? Less likey? Or will it make no difference?” the response showed a net between “more likely” and “less likely” of 35% among Democrats and a minus 9% among Independents.

    corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDI2NDFlYmQwNDMwMDI5ZjE1MWMwNjI0NjdkMzhmODQ=

  131. wbboei,
    you crack me the heck up! LMAO! (8:09)

    i hadta copy and paste that one.

    On first reading i thought you wrote LAPDANCE and now I’m afraid I’m gonna have nightmares! hehehehe
    (Now i gotta look up lapague.)

    ps – next time i post clips of Gogzilla on the down-low I’ll warnya ahead of time.
    😉

  132. # SHV Says

    ……….
    In India, for the first time, pre-natal sex selection is changing the male/female ratio in society.
    —————–

    Yep, in some Western states, parents can’t find girls for their boys. Not enough young women! Hopefully that will teach them to treat the ones they have with care. Can’t screw around with nature.

  133. The Seizman rant tells us more about him than it does against Palin. He is threatened by women in power. He dismisses them as sex objects. He wants his colleagues to know that he is full of hate. He wants us to believe that he wrote (more likley stole) a script on sexual harrassment that he if free to be engage in it with impunity. I think he has relatives in Hollywood. Thus, there may be inbreeding issues. Three generations of idiots is enough.

  134. Now my local NBC station is saying McCain lied about mccain/Palin and going to Iraq…
    as far as I remember she never said Iraq…she said Kuwait and I saw pictures….

  135. justme,

    I pray that it turns out that way. As mean as it sounds, I really want Obama to end up as an embarassment as well as the DNC.

  136. mp: this is a constant frustration for me. Big Media is constantly misqouting the evidence and fabricating facts. It happens so frequently that it must be intentional. And if that is true then they are most certainly liars.

  137. I was thinking about the posts in yesterday’s thread referencing Palin’s kids- especially Piper and saying nasty things about the hair thing. I think it’s bc she’s got more personality than Dumbass’ kids. granted his kids are cuter than hell- especially the littlest one, but they are so cloistered in that elitist fucking environment that they come off stiff. Candidates with cute kids get to voters. Think about Kennedy’s tots…

  138. bird, you are right about Palin’s visit to Landstuhl. She went bc it was the right thing to do and didn’t need an entourage like Dumbass. Bet that sticks in his craw. Like Hillary, she’s everything he isn’t- authentic.

  139. Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s campaign Saturday softened its claim that she traveled to Iraq in 2007, The Boston Globe reported Saturday.

    Palin’s Iraq visit was limited to a brief stop at a border crossing between Iraq and Kuwait, the campaign said Friday. Palin aides had said last month she traveled to Iraq, Kuwait, Germany and Ireland — with a visit to a “military outpost” inside Iraq.

    In her interview this week with ABC News, Palin said she had been to Kuwait and Germany.

    http: / / http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/13/Palin_campaign_modifies_Iraq_visit_claim/UPI-33941221346771/

  140. Now my local NBC station is saying McCain lied about mccain/Palin and going to Iraq…
    as far as I remember she never said Iraq…she said Kuwait and I saw pictures….

    ——————

    And actually technically she did, whilst in Kuwait she crossed the Iraqi border to meet the troops and see what was going on at the border checkpoints.

  141. exactly…BM once again misquoting here about Kuwait/iraq..
    Kuwait has soldiers waiting to go to/from Iraq
    and also some folks spend short leaves there…

    I do not really watch NBC but I just wanted to catch the evening news etc.

    So she has done more…at least she went to the hospital to see the wounded troops
    in Germany when the “nameless one” went shopping !!!

  142. BTW, thanks you guys for thinking about my family. I hope our BP buddies are okay.

    It was surreal seeing my old neighborhood in Clear Lake/Seabrook under water. I’ve been there for some bigger storms, but nothing ever looked that bad in my experience. The news said 14B in damages, and the local newscaster who is down there covering the storm said he thought it’d be twice that based upon what he saw in the Downtown area and just up to the Beltway.

  143. The “Palin lies again” strategy is a real loser for the Obama Campaign. The Obots read this crap and give each other “high fives” and “O’s” poll number sink even lower among the people who are actually going to vote.

  144. Hey, NQ reporting Ed O’Reilley picked up several MA paper’s endorsements and are encouraging voters not to accept Kerry as inevitable.

    Sweet!

  145. Great column on BO’s problems. Axelrod’s formula doesn’t work against a formidable GOP candidate.

    nypost.com/seven/09102008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_bams_flailing_128293.htm

  146. Hi guys sorry I aint been around much today, had other stuff to do. then the other half made me watch “Love Story” and I just bawled my eyes out when she died in the end.

    I hate him now for making me watch that. Great film though.

  147. mariaconz Says:
    The Iowa City Press-Citizen devoted an entire opinion page to my rebuttal of my critics (”Why I’ve left the Democrats” op-ed started it all), and then published another insulting political cartoon and more criticism in letters to the editor. I’m a heretic, an infidel, to the Republic of Johnson County, Iowa
    ==========

    Maria, I posted your request around a little. I’m sorry I only commented and didn’t get back for a Letter or theEditor. I’m not sure how long your op-ed was, but some pretty long things get posted here at h44. What about posting the whole thing here with the email address for Letters about it?

  148. Oh for goodness sakes! Obama lies on a daily basis. Why isn’t that ever reported?

    Anybody really believe he never knew the terrible things his reverend was saying?

    Anybody really believe he never knew that the low income housing he oversaw in the slum areas of Chicago were not being taken care of?

    Anybody really believe he didn’t know that Resko was crooked?

    and on and on and on…

  149. Ccount The votes said: the country is large, and not everyone prioritizes gay marriage, the environment, etc – not everyone in this country who are Democrats are single issue voters.
    ============

    I am disgusted and somewaht horrified at Obama taking my ;riority issues (latte treehugger) and making it look like they are being rejected in this campaign. I try to think that with McCain these issues will make solid, if slow, prgress whereas Pelos and Obaam etc in office would discredit the issues wrose than a losing campaign will.

  150. Basil: Very funny. hehehehehehehehehehehe

    Also, notice how friendly George was? Hillary and/or Palin have not received that friendly discourse. The body language was more relaxed, and George was not aggressive with BO.

  151. Hmmmmm…Rather odd weather forecast for tonight. Wind, rain, scattered thunder storms and isolated tornadoes. They didn’t state what “isolated” meant.

  152. Some of you, may have seen this, but for those of you, that have not, enjoy:

    A teacher in Elmira , New York asked her 6th grade
    class how many of them were Obama fans. Not really
    knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked
    by the teacher, All the kids raised their hands except for
    Little Johnny.
    The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to
    be different again.
    Little Johnny said, ‘Because I’m not an Obama fan.’
    The teacher asked, ‘Why aren’t you an Obama fan?’
    Johnny said, ‘Because I’m a Republican.’
    The teacher asked him why he’s a Republican.
    Little Johnny answered, ‘Well, my Mom’s a Republican
    and my Dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican.’
    Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, ‘If your
    mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, What
    would that make you?’
    With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, ‘That would
    make me an Obama fan.’

  153. wbboei Says:
    Our mistake was thinking women had nowhere else to go.”
    ———————————————-
    Used properly, that is a smoking gun statement that bambi cannot live down, nor wash away a word of it with all his celebrated eloquence uh uh uh . . . . .
    ==================

    I started to say, the source was anonymous — and he could always call it a staff mistake. But too many such statemens have come from him and his staff all along. Someone could collect the lot. Keyword search “get over it.”

    Personally, I’m havign flashes of being very happy how this is turning out! One-two punch for sexism. Break the glass ceiling of BOTH parties! Hillary’s fight got Palin in. Palin’s success will get Hillary in later. As Admin said, we may have TWO woman running agaisnt each ohter in 2012. Take that, NBC!

    Now that Palin is nominated, I hope she will have clear sailing to the leadership of the GOP and be their next REagan At least, it won’t be sexism that holds her back (though it might be a tool against her if she tries to reform the wrong people).

  154. ABC Busted On Hiding Sarah Palin’s Full Answers- Updated with ABC News Contact URL – John Mccain

    NewsBusters has the detailed and a link to the original transcript, but a teaser of the type of things ABC deliberately didn’t show the viewing public is below: (Contact Form to ABC below the post, in case some want to ask them why they cut out important portions of Palin’s answers)

    Next we see that Palin was not nearly as hostile towards Russia as was presented in the edited interview:

    GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

    PALIN: Sure.

    GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.

    The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

    PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…

    GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

    PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

    And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

    GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

    PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

    GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?

    PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

    We also see from Palin’s following remark, which was also edited out, that she is far from some sort of latter day Cold Warrior which the edited interview made her seem to be:

    We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

    We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

    sharpynews.com/politics/john-mccain/john-mccain-news/abc-busted-on-hiding-sarah-palins-full-answers-updated-with-abc-news-contact-url-john-mccain/
    *****************************************************
    I use to have so much respect for Charlie Gibson but it looks like he’s care more about his own agenda then what the American People want and fair and balance gather of the news that treat us with respect.

  155. henry Says:
    4 days go my twenty year old niece informed me that she was “in trouble”
    =========================

    Rhetorical, not to target anyone’s privacy , but … *WHY* are these girls getting pregnant? What is lacking in the current contraceptives and/or education about them?

  156. Personally, I’m havign flashes of being very happy how this is turning out! One-two punch for sexism. Break the glass ceiling of BOTH parties! Hillary’s fight got Palin in. Palin’s success will get Hillary in later. As Admin said, we may have TWO woman running agaisnt each ohter in 2012. Take that, NBC!
    ———————————————
    And wouldnt that be a great thing for the country.

  157. Time for a little compare and contrast:

    posted by TriciaNC on Bitterpoliticz:
    The list of questions posed by Gibson to Barack Obama three months ago, who has arguably less experience on foreign policy than Palin and no executive experience at all:

    Obama interview:

    How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
    How does it feel to “win”?
    How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
    Who will be your VP?
    Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
    Will you accept public finance?
    What issues is your campaign about?
    Will you visit Iraq?
    Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
    What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

    Palin interview:

    Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
    Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
    Questions about foreign policy
    -territorial integrity of Georgia
    -allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
    -NATO treaty
    -Iranian nuclear threat
    -what to do if Israel attacks Iran
    -Al Qaeda motivations
    -the Bush Doctrine
    -attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
    Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

  158. Paula Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Another thing that caught my eye in the Telegraph article on the race. The reporter brought up the point that Axelrod’s never won a race where he faced a strong Repub candidate

    ==========================

    Dunno about Axelrod, but iirc Obama has never won a contest against any viable candidate (wihtout some form of backstage kneecapping).

    1996 – Palmer, bumped her and ALL opponents off the ballot to run unopposed.

    ?date? – Rush beat Obama

    2004 – primary and GE oppoents just hapened to have their divorce files unsealed and dropped out. Alen Keyes brought in from another state at the last minutes.

  159. ?date? – Rush beat Obama
    ************
    2000…Bobby Rush “cleaned” Barry’s clock. Shouldn’t mess with a old Black Panther.

  160. “If they felt it was important to elect a black man to move our nation beyond its racist past then it was incumbent upon them to nominate a qualified one like Colin Powell.”

    Thank you. The Obama nomination is classic passive liberal racism, rooted in a paternalistic sense of superiority to blacks. I would vote for Condoleeza Rice for President.

  161. “1996 – Palmer, bumped her and ALL opponents off the ballot to run unopposed.”
    **************
    I have read the Sun Times(?) article several times, and the bottom line on that was that there is “no honor” among thieves. Palmer and the others on the ballot had paid for forged signatures for their primary petitions. Unfortunately, the folks who were doing the “pass around” on the petitions were using an out dated voter registry. The corruption in Chicago would be a comedy if it weren’t so serious.

  162. Now more than ever I am looking forward to Sean Hannity’s interview with Palin coming up on Tuesday and Wednesday.

    Gibson is a joke with little or less media integrity left.

  163. carbynew Says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    ABC Busted On Hiding Sarah Palin’s Full Answers- Updated with ABC News Contact URL – John Mccain
    ———————————————–
    WOW- if it were me I would say this:

    Dear Mr. Gibson.

    We have been impressed with your journalistic integrity in times past. That is why we chose your for our intial interview of SP. But now it seems our confidence was misplaced.

    We were surprised by the condesending tone you adopted toward Gov P. We had not seen that side of you before. Surely it was not in evidence when you interviewed Senator Obama. Why is that Charlie? We can show you a split screen.

    We can live with your bias Charlie. That is your problem to deal with. Perhaps it is a result of your Princeton education. What we cannot live with is your gross distortion of what was actually said.

    You or those acting at your behest have edited the interview to materially mislead the American People on her position on Russia. In our view this rises to the level of dishonest journalism.

    You do wish to be considered an honest journalist do you not Charlie? It may interest you to know that others have made similar observations. This is hardly what we expected from the network of Chet Huntley and David Brinkley-Charlie.

    The damage is done. So where do we go from here. I am open to suggestions, but until this matter is resloved it will be difficult for us to proceed on other issues, etc. If you review the tape again I think you will understand.

    (Obviously McCain will now how to handle it)

  164. I have also been marveling at how far I have come when I’m more in agreement with Charles Krauthammer than Bob Herbert. But I can now find a reason. Liberals/Dems have been the kinder party. Kinder to minorities, gays, immigrants, women and the poor. Republicans have been far more “it’s all about me and mine.”

    This time, women’s and liberal orgs deserted a liberal bright woman for what’s-his-name. They made nasty, personal accusations against Hill and Bill. And if disagreed with, they became angry and intolerant. While I still have disagreements with Republicans, they are more gracious if not kinder than the New Democrats.

    The strategy of belittling, demeaning, and threatening Hill supporters was deadly. And their insistence that Hill voters “will never vote for McC or Palin” just irritated me more. I can’t wait to prove them wrong.

  165. As you know, I’m always aware of those moments in a campaign (or in the country) that change the status quo.

    I spoke about the “groom on the wedding cake” remark that doomed Dewey, the heavy favorite.

    During the civil rights struggle, there were bigots and activists and a great many in the middle who didn’t engage but were mainly decent people. And though MLK and LBJ deserve the credit, there was a moment, IMHO, that was the big game changer. We owe it to the Dem sheriff of Birmingham, who turned dogs loose on a protest march in which there were children. The sight of those dogs ripping at kids’ legs was more than regular people could stand. Bull Connor had made clear who the good guys and bad guys were. Civil rights legislation passed the next year.

    In this election, going personally after Sarah, in such a nasty and personal way signaled that Dems were not on the side of anyone but the far left. Attacking Sarah for her religion, choice, politics, family, experience (!) seems like an attack on all of us who aren’t a biggie in Washington. “Lipstick on a pig” was a phrase that encapsulated the nastiness no matter WORM. It’s a game-changer and although it could change back again, I pray not.

  166. freckles Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 1:08 am
    *****************
    *****************
    The other “game changer” was “Bloody Sunday” at the Edmund Pettus bridge, March 7, 1965.

  167. freckles,

    Republicans can be cruel too — to Democrats. Being cruel and destructive within ones own party is worse.

  168. SHV Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    ==========================

    Do you have a cite for this Sun Times version? My main cite is the Chicago Tribune profile “Showing his bare knuckles” linked from ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground

    IN it, iirc, one of the minor bumped candidates, who had paid for legitimate signature gathering, said that he had received some forged signatures instead (“They roundtabled me.”)

    The challenges were made early in January immediately after a new list was completed, which had removed 15,000 signatures from the rolls. Everyone had gathered their signatures under the list which was current at the time of gathering . Palmer said her signatures were valid on the then-current list. Less than 800 signatures were required.

    Do you know whether Obama’s own signatures were subjected to the same test?

    Challenging signatures by a justreleased list seems like a typical Obama tactic, perhaps requiring some Obama-style influence on the judge.

  169. Canaan Says:
    “If they felt it was important to elect a black man to move our nation beyond its racist past then it was incumbent upon them to nominate a qualified one like Colin Powell.
    ==========

    Damn. Bloody. Right.

  170. I agree with both of you — Bloody Sunday was two years later and re-enforced the awfulness of bigotry.

    And, turndown, I thought that over the years Republicans were dreadfully cruel to Dems which was why I so defended Dems.

    I just think that this time calling Hill and Bill racists was way over the line as opposed to calling O “the one”. O seems incapable of a light touch or grace.
    “Hillary periodically gets upset” was not accidental.
    “Hill, you’re likeable enough” was an angry arrogant response. And putting “lipstick on a pig” was stupid. None of it gracious or kind.

  171. This is my first post. I’ve been lurking for a while. As a 49-year-old, college educated, working class woman who has always voted for Democrats since I was 18, I can honestly say for the first time I don’t know how I will vote this November. I, my female friends and my Mom, supported Hillary in the primary. My male “liberal” friends and colleagues are drinking the Kool-Aid and voting for Obama. They don’t know why Hillary supporters are so upset. They make jokes all day long about Hillary. They just don’t “get it.” I was livid by the way Obama and the media treated Hillary, who is so intellegent and should have won the nomination. When Hillary lost, I was very disappointed. Weeks later, I started to imagine, for the first time, voting for Obama. I still thought he was arrogant, particularly by the way he and his supporters kept telling Hillary supporters to “get over it,” and, worse, saying “Who else are Hillary supporters going to vote for? They have to vote for me.” Still, I thought I would give him a chance. Then when he named Biden as his VP, I thought, forget it. Hillary won 18 million votes in the primaries. She should have been his VP pick. Didn’t Obama say he was a “uniter?” If he can’t even unite his party, how is he going to unite the country? Not even considering Hillary was the ultimate disrespect. For the first time, I may not vote for president this November. Maybe I will write in Hillary’s name (don’t know if that’s allowed in Ohio), or vote for Ralph Nader (don’t know if he’s on the ballot), but I won’t be voting for Obama. This is the hardest political decision I have ever had to make. Ohio will be very close, razor thin. It’s suffered tremendously from a huge loss of manufacturing jobs over the awful Bush years. Ohio almost always votes Republican, except when we voted for Bill Clinton. He is very popular in Ohio. I know Obama has asked Clinton to campaign for him in Ohio. That could tip the scales for Obama. Bill is absolutely loved in Ohio. But even if Bill asks me to vote for Obama, I don’t think so. I also don’t want to vote for someone just because the media has been jamming him down my throat, asking him softball questions, without any vetting whatsoever. I am perplexed by Obama’s biography on CNN, and MSNBC, when he says he screwed around in high school, and at Occidental College. If that’s true, how the hell did he get in to Harvard? Did I miss something? Does anyone know what his grades were in high school and Occidental? So many unanswered questions about Obama, but the media protects him. I sincerely believe that whoever wins Ohio will win the White House. It will be interesting. But I don’t think I will be voting for the Democratic Party again. I hope someone sincerely considers starting a third party, one that treats women with respect.

  172. Canaan Says:
    “If they felt it was important to elect a black man to move our nation beyond its racist past then it was incumbent upon them to nominate a qualified one like Colin Powell.
    ———————————————————————————————————————

    I read once, that Powell’s wife didn’t like politics, and did not want him to run for office.

  173. AmericanGal Says:

    September 14th, 2008 at 12:17 am
    Is anyone watching Saturday Night Live? It’s one anti-Palin joke after another.
    ______________________________________-
    These kind of cheap shots passed off as jokes are a crashing bore.

  174. freckles Says:
    And, turndown, I thought that over the years Republicans were dreadfully cruel to Dems which was why I so defended Dems.
    I just think that this time calling Hill and Bill racists was way over the line as opposed to calling O “the one”.
    =================

    Definitely. Also conflating Bill’s good record in the 90s with the Bushes’ bad records as “the Bush-Clinton years”. All this was real damage, done to people of their own party.

    After what we saw our own party and the press do, and were unable to stop it, I do almost feel wth grassroots Republicans that morally — well, maybe they’re not all any more complicit than we were.

  175. Wow, the race is tighening up, which is to be expected, but McCain was 13 points down in June. Looks like 10% are undecided.

  176. turndownobama-com Says:
    September 14th, 2008 at 1:50 am

    SHV Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    ************
    Wrong Newspaper..It was the Trib. “Obama knows his way around a ballot”
    http: / / http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story?page=4

    City authorities had just completed a massive, routine purge of unqualified names that eliminated 15,871 people from the 13th District rolls, court records show.

    Ewell and other Obama rivals had relied on early 1995 polling sheets to verify the signatures of registered voters—but Obama’s challenges were decided at least in part using the most recent, accurate list, records show.

    Askia filed 1,899 signatures, but the Obama team sustained objections to 1,211, leaving him 69 short, records show.

    Leafing through scrapbooks in his South Shore apartment, Askia, a perennially unsuccessful candidate, acknowledges that he paid Democratic Party precinct workers $5 a sheet for some of the petitions, and now suspects they used a classic Chicago ruse of passing the papers among themselves to forge the signatures. “They round-tabled me,” Askia said.

    Palmer to this day does not concede the flaws that Obama’s team found in her signatures. She maintains that she could have overcome the Obama team’s objections and stayed on the ballot if she had more time and resources.

  177. # birdgal Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    count the votes: How is prop 8 going? Any latest polls? I tried to find some, but I only found some from June.

    *****
    Birdgal – sorry, I went out tonight. Was planning to watch SNL, but don’t think I can stomach Palin jokes…

    Anyway, re: prop 8 – it is very close. We have to work our butts off – it’s dead heat about 40 to 40 and 20 percent undecided. People are complacent because they think it won’t pass – problem with the far left is that they’re arrogant enough to think that everyone thinks exactly like them…sound familiar? We need to raise several million more to keep up with the Right’s ads.

  178. I now feel some belated compassion for true conservatives who have been upset at their party through the 12 Bush years. These are the people who really believe in smaller government and restrained spending. They have been told the right stuff but have seen their principles ignored ( and I don’t mean pro-life although that’s important to some)

    You don’t have to agree with them to feel for them when they vote for something and get something else. Just like us in 2006.

  179. well Freckles, when McCain wins, maybe he will bring the Republican party back to its core principles…their wingnuts have become fodder for the media and left wing to vilify the entire party.

    I’m only sad that it won’t be a Democratic year…Pelosi, Dean and Brazile f*cked up bigtime.

  180. Yes, count.., me too. But this country might be a great deal better of with some real conservative principles and some true liberal ones.

    There are things worth conserving and some things desperately in need of change.

    McCain chose Feingold to work on ethics reform. That gives us some hope. What we don’t need are narcissistic, arrogant bullies in charge of anything.

  181. freckles, i think having a truly independent, non-partisan president (who can’t be bought) would probably be good for this country. but, dream on…

  182. djia Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    The concluding lines of your comment make me think that Obama is learning for the past.

  183. Alot of us were small goverment republicans at one time. We left the party when the neocons took over. Our mantra was we stand for small govermnet not world government. We became independents or democrats only to see the neo libs take over here as well. Yes-I have seen this movie before.

    The small govermnet thing works best in a rural settings. In the big city I do not think it is workable. And in the age of globalization goverment must be a check and balance on the power of markets as opposed to an aider and abetter. For every Randy Duke Cunningham there are 10 more who go right up to that line without crossing and do jus as much harm.

    I have met alot of politicans along the way and Hillary is the best I have ever met–and it is not even close. Her vision is the only one that will save this country from the trouble that lies ahead. Somehow she must come out of this Kennedy Soros mess standing tall. The future really does depend on it.

  184. Stinging stinging rebuke Ouch

    EDITORIAL: A debate Obama cannot win

    http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/sep/14/a-debate-obama-cannot-win/

    His record simply does not correspond to his rhetoric.

    Mr. Obama’s “new kind of politics” – which was based on telling the truth, being a principled politician and treating one’s opponents fairly – collapsed once he secured the nomination in June. He reversed course with dizzying speed on NAFTA, FISA, public financing of campaigns, whether the D.C. gun ban was constitutional, meeting with rogue leaders without preconditions and the unity of Jerusalem. He even qualified his Iraq policy by stating it would be “refined” according to “conditions on the ground.” Most recently, in light of the economic downturn, Mr. Obama stated he might reconsider implementing the tax increases in his economic plan.

    Mr. Obama appeared authentic during the Democratic campaign as a liberal champion: In running to the left of Hillary Clinton, he was passionate, fiery and convincing. Yet since his mad dash to the center, he appears uncomfortable: He stammers and stutters in response to questions rather than speaking forthrightly. The polished, Ivy League-educated senator now uses “folksy” expressions. This downhome speaking manner is geared toward attracting white, blue collar voters – and is not in consonance with his impeccable oratory. He is now packaged and artificial.

  185. Now Bambi is in big big trouble

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/28353589.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

    Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state (13 point Palin bounce)

    September 13, 2008

    Minnesota has become a battleground in a presidential campaign that has dramatically tightened nationwide.

    A new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll shows that the race is now a dead heat between Barack Obama and John McCain, each supported by 45 percent of likely voters in the state.

    The new poll likely will stoke both sides’ efforts during the final 51 days until the election, triggering a barrage of advertising, grass-roots politicking and, potentially, stepped-up visits by the candidates.

    The poll found that McCain has made gains across the board since a May Minnesota Poll that showed him trailing by 13 points. He has picked up considerable support among men and to a lesser degree among women. He also has boosted his standing with whites, young voters and all levels of household income and education.

  186. If Obama now has to Defend Washington, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, perhaps Oregon and NJ, we are into whole new territory that spells disaster for him because if McCain is close tied and even up in these, its going to be a rout.

  187. Though we don’t like Hitler analogies much in relation to American politics this video is kind of funny. (Who are we to criticize, consisidering our Bullwinkle love?) It was sent to us by email by one of our shy readers. The video is called “Democratic Party War Room” and has some funny dialogue substituted for the original dialogue. The stuff on Palin gave us some good chuckles.

  188. Moononpluto, the list of states moving away from Obama towards McCain is startling. That Minnesota poll along with the others (particularly NJ and Washington) must give Obama terror sweats.

    What will the incense burning Hopium eaters say?

    Obama supporter Nate Silver wrote an article about Minnesota this past Friday.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/road-to-270-minnesota.html

    Obama has paid attention to Minnesota, both running up a large Super Tuesday victory here in the caucuses and delivering his nomination-clinching speech on June 3d in St. Paul. The other big thing Obama has going for him is that it’s low on the Tipping Point scale, meaning that the McCain camp surely has better and more efficient pickoff targets over the 2004 map (e.g., Michigan, New Hampshire). That means Obama isn’t likely to need to mount any tough defense, even if some polls show a close single-digit race as opposed to the double-digit polling we’ve often seen this cycle out of the state.

    ———

    What To Watch For

    Minnesota will likely be a single-digit race at the presidential level when all is said and done, but pay close attention to the Coleman-Franken race. Not only is it a brutal fight already, with each candidate wounded by tough criticism and a torrent of attack ads from each side on the air, but also note that if Franken cannot pull off a victory then Democrats have very little chance of getting to the magical, filibuster-proof 60 seats they hope for.

    There’s also a tough fight in MN-01, with freshman Democratic Congressman Tim Walz having pulled off one of the bigger upsets in the 2006 wave year. The biggest House tossup is in Minnesota’s 3d district, where Republican Jim Ramstad is retiring. This is the wealthiest of Minnesota’s House districts in the Hennepin County suburbs of Minneapolis, with Ramstad staffer Erik Paulsen (R) in a “no clear favorite” dogfight with 30-year old Iraq War veteran Ashwin Madia (DFL). Since both Walz’ district and Ramstad’s former district are very narrow +1 R on the Partisan Voter Index scale, the presidential coattails and ground organizing will certainly come into play in these races.

  189. Franken is not going to win, people just won’t take him serious enough.

    Its interesting to see how those states pan out but they may trend to McCain before we know it.

  190. This is another state i think McCain will lock up.

    Nevadans get fired up by Palin

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/28365484.html

    CARSON CITY — Until Saturday afternoon, Yerington resident Laura Tracy never had attended a political rally in her life.

    But she had a hard time controlling her emotions and her political sign when she and 5,000 others pushed into a park pavilion to scream for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin like she was one of The Beatles.

    You see, Tracy, like Palin, is a hunter, good enough to have shot a wild turkey for her family’s dinner last Thanksgiving.

    For Palin’s first campaign appearance in Nevada, Tracy hoisted a sign that read “Hunter Chick 4 Palin” on one side and “Sarah killed my apathy” on the other.

    “I offered her $100 for it, but she refused,” said Ralph McMullen, a Reno resident.

    Tracy had planned not to vote in November until Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Aug. 29 chose the little-known Alaska governor as his running mate.

  191. Good Morning everyone.

    I received this e-mail saying either Hillary, Bill, Biden, and O will be campaigning in Ohio 3 days a week until the election.

    Its fine for them to campaign here, I think people get tired of candidates after a while.

    I think they want Ohio bad.

    I want be going to see any of them

  192. neetabug,

    D@mn! I hate to wish bad luck on anyone but maybe HRC and BC could come down with serious cases of the flu for the next 2 months.
    👿

  193. I would love to ask Bill and Hillary what makes them think O can win, when in their own words they said he could not. Also Hillary herself said She and McCain has the experience. If she says he has the experience on the campaign trail, i will lose all respect for her. She knows he is not qualified yet she is peddeling this fake.

    The republicans will be all over her with ads

  194. from insightanalytical.wordpress.com

    An analysis of body language during the BC-BO press appearance.

    “Obama capped off his day in New York with a lunch date with Bill Clinton. If you missed the video, take a look. Obama’s body language is pretty clear–he’s as stiff as a board and he keeps his hands in his pockets the whole time. (Maybe he was resisting the urge to strangle Bill?) And, he has to make sure he doesn’t get overshadowed, so he keeps interjecting comments like how he’s going to “put him (Clinton) to work” and how Clinton “knows a little something something about politics.”

    According to ChangingMinds.org, a site devoted to how one can “change what others think, believe, feel and do”

    Hands are often used in communication and hiding the hands may indicate a desire not to communicate or not to collaborate, saying ‘I don’t want to talk with you’ or ‘I do not agree with you’.

    This may be done in a deliberate gesture of defiance, such as stuffing hands in pockets. Liars may hide their hands in fear that they will give themselves away.

    Hiding hands may also be a position of listening, sending the message ‘I do not want to talk because I want to listen to you.’

    Putting hands in pockets or behind the back can also be due to just feeling relaxed and not needing to talk.

    Now, do you think his hands were indicating the last two possibilities or the one I’ve bolded? I’m going with the ones I highlighted…

    As for that comment by Clinton about how he’s predicts that Obama will win “handily…”–sounds like he’s selling the Brooklyn Bridge, if you ask me. Note how Clinton says he’ll being doing things for Obama AFTER he finishes with his Global Initiative and what he does will depend on “whatever he’s asked to do.” With the Global Initiative being held from September 23-28. there’s only 6 weeks until election day and we’ll have to see when Obama will get around to asking Bill to work on his behalf.

    ***

  195. neetabug

    i have to believe hillary is just “treading water” till this thing is over. i cannot imagine her coming out and saying BHO is suddenly qualified to be CIC. i think she will be speaking very carefully.

  196. djia Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    Absolutely. A month or two must not be assumed enough to get someone completely changed or qualified.

  197. Rassmussen

    McCain 50%
    Obama 47%

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows John McCain reaching the 50% level of support for the first time since Barack Obama wrapped up the Democratic Presidential Nomination. McCain retains a three-point advantage for the third straight day, 50% to 47%

  198. I’m beginning to think that Obama is having a problem that Hillary had.

    The inevitablity mantle is working against him.

    It was all about Obama Obama Obama the last few months and the american people dont like being told who to vote for.

    It did in hindsight hurt Hillary and its now hurting Obama bigtime.

  199. alcina, neeta,

    I watched the clip a couple of more times and what I really noticed is the forced pasted-on grin on BO’s face and the way he continually glanced at BC whereas BC didn’t look at BO ONCE!

    It was almost as if, in BC’s mind, BO wasn’t even there.

  200. Tina Fey IS Sarah Palin!

    Tjat clip is remarkable!

    BTW,
    Just heard Carly Fiorino and McCatskill on GS.

    Fiorino is an effective surrogate for JM, far better than CM IMO.
    The topic was sexism and women flocking to JM.

  201. wbboei: Right on with your post and your much appreciated statement about Hillary being the best of the lot.I have never been involved in politics other than keeping informed and voting.Back in the old days there was no MSM so involved in trying to control our minds and decisions that we had to make as loyal citizens and it was not a crime to be opinionated with one party or another.Local corruption was on a small scale and almost insignificant.Toay it is far more corrupt and and the money flows freely from world wide sources.It is a new time abd the tactics have just about reached the treason level by the candidates antheir surrogates.Mind control has replaced vote control by any means.The Obama campaign is a prime example of this new method of stealing anything that is not nailed down to win an election.Ther are very few political figures left in this country like the Clintons.Honest,dedicated,experienced,unselfish,not obsessed with money unless it is raised to help the poor,the needy,the disease racked helpless of countries ,led by cruel and evil dictators.I totally agree with you that Hillary is like no other woman of our time and in many ways has the determination and thick skin of her idol First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt.The both have suffered the onslaught of verbal abuse by the highly paid media lackeys and asassins.I marvel at your dedication and words of wisdom that are so important to the American public in these very troublesome times.If only they would listen think of what is happening to our freedoms.Of course we must first free them from the clutches of the steady dose of stupid network programming that is growing new idiots by the millions each day and have no real interests in where our country is headed.It is very apparent to me that we aare well on our way to being the worst race based nation in this crazy world.And now a real crisis is just a few weeks away,yes it is Barack Hussein Obama,a minor league player in a major league game.

    Thanks wbboei Your posts sustain me every day ABM90

  202. alcina,
    It almost looked like one of those joint spouse press conferences, like the Spitzer disaster when he announced he was resigning as NYS governor and his wife stood dutifully at his side, sneaking side-long and obviously uncomfortable peeks at her spouse.
    BC is definitely alpha-dog.
    BTW, just listened to GS discussion of current ad wars and not ONE mention that JM can’t email coz of war injuries. B@stards.

  203. BO in that clip kept glancing nervously at Bill. He looked……..hard to find the correct word, but it was almost a longing look as he glanced at Bill. As if he wants so badly to be everything Bill is, but knows deep down that he never will be, and it makes him angry. He looked like a frightened schoolboy, who both hates Daddy and wants his approval, trying very hard to cover his fear that he is in utterly over his head with smiling bravado.

    Big Dawg knows it, too.

  204. Obama gaffe 2,500,456,512

    Hows does a missile shield target a country? Eh? the man is stupid through and through.

    http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Obama_says_missile_shield_cannot_target_Russia_Polands_Sikorski_999.html

    US Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama has said he will only proceed with installing a US missile shield base in Poland if it does not target Russia, Poland’s foreign minister said Thursday.

    “In talks with me, senator Obama made the realisation of our (missile shield) agreement conditional on whether he will be certain that the system is not aimed against Russia,” Radoslaw Sikorski said at a joint press conference in Warsaw with Russian counterpart Sergei Larvov.

    “In a mini-military briefing given before yesterday to senator McCain in which I participated, I can say that what the candidate was told about the purpose of the (missile shield) system has nothing to do with Russia,” Sikorski said of a consultation with the Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

  205. The only ones left on the bus are the hopium addicts.

    There are now easily enough demographics under that bus to stand up, hoist it onto our shoulders, and walk it right back to Chicago.

    The hopium addicts keep screaming and flooring the gas pedal, to no avail. Too many people under the bus for their tires to touch the ground.

  206. admin,

    I really enjoyed your reference to the first Godfather movie.

    “wbboei – do you remember the scene in Godfather when Tom Hagen is told by Godfather to cooperate with Barzini? Hagen corrects Godfather and says ‘You mean Tattalgia? Godfather replys ‘Tattaglia’s a pimp. … It was Barzini all along.’

    “Obama is a pimp. It was Kennedy all along.”

    Thanks for giving us a place to come to share political wisdom and enjoy each other’s jokes. Question: Why do some of the Kennedys hate the Clintons so much, other than the Kennedys’ usual misogymny?

  207. Correction: . . . other than the Kennedys’ usual misogyny.

    I can never see the last line of my comments when I type, so I just have to hope that I’m typing well. Hard to correct when you can’t see your last line.

  208. Re the kerfluffle and panic over Palin’s “lack of experience”, I agree with this RD poster:

    I think we need to add a new term to the lexicon to sum up that prevalent bit of sexism. I’m calling it Penis Years* (not a coincidence that it echoes the term dog years.)

    * Penis Years: Each year of any experience of a person with a penis is equivalent to five years of experience by someone without a penis.

  209. admin,

    I can’t BELIEVE how good Tina Fey was in mimicking Sarah Palin. I agree, Fey WAS Sarah Palin.

    I thought that there were huge sexist overtones in how Hillary was portrayed, though. A lot of the right-wing smears seem to stick to her as far as the Left is concerned. I wonder whether the Left has any idea that they absorbed “the vast right-wing conspiracy’s” rap on Hillary without allowing any aspect of reality to intrude.

    The portrayal of Hillary is somewhat offensive, but after all, who is in charge of Saturday Night Live? Jon Stewart, Colbert, and Samantha Bee make the same Leftist errors. Thanks for the clip!

  210. In the clip of Obama and Bill Clinton together, I agree that you can tell it’s all over for Obama, and Bill knows it. When Bill keeps his mouth open while smiling and doesn’t come down hard on the consonants when he speaks, that means that he’s faking it. Obama, on the other hand, looks nervous and a little desperate to borrow some of Bill’s political success.

    I agree with whoever said that. It’s all in the body language.

  211. The telling story.

    While John McCain can only spend $84 million over the next two months after accepting that much from the public-financing system, it doesn’t cost him a dime to get it. The Obama campaign’s burn rate will be critical in determining whether he’s actually raising enough money to keep him ahead of McCain. If it costs him more than $20 million to raise that money, it’s essentially a wash — and the burn rate at Team O has been much higher than 30%. Their cash-on-hand numbers will probably tell a different story, as Obama would have to almost double McCain’s $84 million over the next two months just to stay even.

    Also, the DNC’s numbers should prove interesting. The RNC has consistently outraised them, providing more cushion for McCain in building a war chest. If Obama got his new donations at the expense of the DNC, or even if they trail the RNC at the same rate as the rest of the year, Obama’s $66 million August will not keep pace with the overall GOP effort.

    The rest of the figures will come out this week, and that will give us a more complete picture of whether Obama made a fiscal error in opting out of public financing.

  212. WBBOEI!!!!!!!

    Thanks for sending me that!

    You are brilliant!!!!!! I will try to read it over the next few days. I’m so glad you have collected your essays into one piece.

    Excellent work! 😀

  213. maria: Question: Why do some of the Kennedys hate the Clintons so much, other than the Kennedys’ usual misogymny? I dont know all the ins and outs but this is my theory on why Teddy does:

    J. The Kennedy Machine: Ted Kennedy has been a fixture on the American political scene for fifty years. To some people he is the scion of a great political family, a champion of the oppressed, a lion in the Senate who has served with great distinction. Others are inclined to take a more skeptical view of the man for reasons which are a matter of public record and need not detain us here. The one thing we can all agree on is that today Ted Kennedy has a terminal brain tumor, and is forced to confront the prospect of own mortality. We can all be sympathetic toward him for that. He is understandably concerned about his legacy. He has no direct heir who is competent to take over after him. So he looked to the outside, found the opportunistic Obama and passed the torch to him. He hopes to see one more Camelot before he dies. But he also realized there is another political family that can lay claim to a legacy namely the Clintons. Bill Clinton is a two term President in a time of peace and prosperity. And Hillary was a candidate for President. Thus, Kennedy used his vast influence to support Obama and oppose Hillary. Lest we forget, it was his surrogates namely Kerry, Dodd and Leahy who demanded that she withdraw from the race and put pressure on superdelegates as well. And he had family ties to the Chicago machine dating back to the 1960 election.

  214. However look at this

    The real questions are:

    How much money did Obama have on hand on September 1? Reports are that Snob-ama has been spending money like a drunken sailor. Conversely, Sen. McCain had apparently $200 million in the bank on September 1.

    How much money will he raise in September and October? At this rate, probably around $135 – $150 million. Conversely, Sen. McCain will get $84 million in public funds, and the RNC and related state party entities could easily pull in another $80 – $100 million, meaning that Sen. McCain could easily bank another $165 – $185 million for the cause in the last two months for the RNC.

    How effectively is Snob-ama using his fortune? He has been spending quite freely since June, and seen his polls diminish from a substantial lead to a modest loss. Perhaps WE should all donate to Snob-ama, as it seems that the more he spends, the worse he does. Conversely, Sen. McCain seems to have been a wise steward of his funds, spending nearly nothing in Florida as opposed to Snob-ama’s $8 milliion, and moving out to a moderate lead.

  215. mariaconz Says:
    I can never see the last line of my comments when I type, so I just have to hope that I’m typing well. Hard to correct when you can’t see your last line.
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    Sometimes I have that problem, sometimes not. It’s just recently, since the software started acting different on posting in other ways, here and at some other WordPress blogs.

  216. As for the Kennedys, RFK Junior might be a test case, as he and others in his side of the family endorsed and defended Hillary early.

  217. wbboei Says:
    Alot of us were small goverment republicans at one time. We left the party when the neocons took over. Our mantra was we stand for small govermnet not world government. We became independents or democrats only to see the neo libs take over here as well. Yes-I have seen this movie before.

    The small govermnet thing works best in a rural settings. In the big city I do not think it is workable. And in the age of globalization goverment must be a check and balance on the power of markets as opposed to an aider and abetter.

    ====================

    Wow. I suspect there is a POWERFUL charge of wisdomhere….

  218. turndownobama: absolutely right and that is why I limited my response to just Ted, and by inference Caroline and lord only knows about Patrick.

    The RFK side of the family are the real heroes in my book, and they are as you say strong Hillary supporters. Some day, if I live long enough, I would like to see RFK president, after Hillarys second term. But we have got a little work to do between now and then. It starts with a crushing defeat of Obama.

    I assume there will come a point when the Republicans start hitting him hard, but I have no seen it yet despite all the predictions. Yes, I know it is their problem, but at some point it is our–the coutry’s as well.

    Maybe that is what the 527s are gearing up to do because it needs to be done. If they are sitting on an October surpise, it is now mid September.

  219. I read one time that in the city state of Athens all free men were considered eligible for any and every position in the democracy save two: admiral and shipbuilder.

    In this democrarcy there is an elite group who operates in the manner of a medieval craft guild in the sense that they protect their own. The only problem with the analogy is they were artisans, and while you could accuse an idiot like Wexler of many things, artisan would not be one of them. I hope he is losing.

    In any event when I see the ire which the left and the Washington elites are directing at Palin now and Hillary and Bill in the past-at Harry Truman, at Andy Jackson and at John Paul Jones when he was trying to raise a navy to save their sorry asses the response is always the same: you are not one of us/

  220. Why Our Elites Fear Faith
    by Ralph Peters [author, novelist]

    Nothing in recent memory has driven home the divide between our self-appointed aristocracy and “commoners” as sharply as the intelligentsia’s rush to mock Gov. Sarah Palin’s religious faith.

    While the attacks and insults are backfiring on the mortified elites, the double standard applied to “Sarah America” is a disgrace that can’t be excused as “just politics.”

    Certainly, much of the left-wing fury over Palin stems from the Democratic Party’s assumption that it “owned” the exclusive right to nominate women to the executive branch (despite the crushing of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy). How dare the Republicans advance a woman? How dare they change this year’s election script?

    But the root of the left’s dread of this happily married mother of five seems to be that she actually believes in God: How could anyone be that stupid?

    Such a woman wouldn’t fit in Washington (nor would a man of equal faith). In the DC area (where I live), plenty of government-affiliated men and women regularly attend a church or synagogue. But their appearances are perfunctory and well-mannered. Passionate faith is regarded as an embarrassment.

    Washington fears faith – even nominal believers inside the Beltway have been shaped by secular educations and secular caste values.

    Humans fear what they can’t understand, and our comfortable ruling class just can’t comprehend the power and the glory, the beauty and the ecstasy, the awe and commitment experienced by those who believe in a divine power. To paraphrase the late Leona Helmsley, “Faith is for the little people.”

    Believers are mocked (if not too publicly at election time). Sen. Barack Obama’s behind-closed-doors remark in San Francisco to the effect that worried blue-collar chumps cling to God and guns perfectly captured the left’s worldview, equating faith and firearms as equal menaces to an enlightened society.

    Then along came Palin to appall the establishment – a moose-hunting Christian with a working-class husband, the precise stereotype Obama had mocked. The media’s attacks on her since her nomination have been the most unfair I’ve ever seen.

    Let me be clear: I disagree with Palin on a number of issues. But I believe in fairness. And I believe in freedom of religion for all who do not attempt to force their faith on others. One of the many glories of our country is that men and women are free to find their individual paths to God – or to disbelieve, should they so choose.

    But I can’t accept the snotty condescension of those who assume that faith is for dopes. I come from a world where belief is powerful – small-town, hardscrabble America. I have relatives whose faith is embedded in exuberant communal worship and public celebrations of redemption and joy. Washington, the professorate and the media not only don’t understand such believers, they despise them.

    Earlier this week, I watched, sickened, as CNN did its best to excite fear of Palin’s religious beliefs. She grew up in a Pentecostal congregation – whose members, a smug reporter told us, often talk in tongues. Though the report noted that there’s no “proof” that Palin herself had done so, the implication was that Sarah Barracuda must be a nut job.

    Then CNN told us about an Alaskan pastor’s remark that his state might become a refuge in the “end times.” The implication was that Palin must share that belief, too.

    The coverage just piled on, unjust, unfair and un-American. The unspoken bottom line was that active religious faith disqualifies a candidate.

    Well, for all the joyous noise at those Alaskan churches, I’ll bet my life that none of the pastors who preached to Palin over the years ever shouted “God damn America!” or blamed the United States for the world’s ills, or accused our government of creating AIDS to kill black Americans.

    None of the bigoted, hate-filled rants of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright have been replayed to counterbalance the mockery heaped upon Palin’s religious background. Of course, Wright’s anti-American tirades fit the worldview of the Dems’ left-wing base – so Obama got a pass when he claimed that, over 20 years, he never heard any hate speech in Wright’s church.

    Besides, Dems believe that blacks are supposed to jump around and shout in church – but whites who do that are wackos. (No stereotypes there, folks!)

    I don’t see extremism in Palin’s faith. I see the love of God that prevails beyond the Beltway. The media’s bigotry toward her tells us far more about the political biases and snobbery of journalists than it does about Sen. John McCain’s running mate.

    In recent years, a succession of pundits has compared our country to ancient Rome. Most of the assertions are silly. But our governing elite certainly shares the Roman patricians’ disdain for the faith of the common citizen.

    exilestreet.com/?p=124

  221. SHV Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    Wrong Newspaper..It was the Trib. “Obama knows his way around a ballot”
    http: / / http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story?page=4
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    Yes, it was the Tribune. Basically it was the same segment of the profile, which they origially published under the title/header:
    “Barack Obama: Showing his bare knuckles
    In first campaign, Obama revealed hard-edged, uncompromising side in eliminating party rivals”. It is still online at http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0704030881apr04,0,6678847.story

    I do not trust the version with the sanitized title, “knows his way around a ballot”, as they may have sanitized other things too. But for convenience I’ll use your quotes below except where noted.

    From the “bare knuckles” version.
    The day after New Year’s 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.
    There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city’s South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama’s four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

    From your version:
    City authorities had just completed a massive, routine purge of unqualified names that eliminated 15,871 people from the 13th District rolls, court records show.
    Ewell and other Obama rivals had relied on early 1995 polling sheets to verify the signatures of registered voters—but Obama’s challenges were decided at least in part using the most recent, accurate list, records show.

    “Had just completed” and“The day after New Year’s” suggests that the new list had become effective at the first of 1996 and was not in effect when the signatures were gathered by all candidates during 1995. Was it even available to read earlier? Since there is no mention of Obama’s own signatures being tested against the new list, he may have just been gambling that the 15,000+ voters removed would take out enough of Palmer’s “hastily gathered” signatures (only about 800 valid signatures were needed, iirc, and she may not have gathered enough extra signatures).

    If the new list was not even available to read at the time when the signatures were collected, it is hardly the candidates’ fault that they did not use it. In fairness their petitions should have been checked against the then-current lists, or they should have been given extra time to gather new signatures under the new list.

    Leafing through scrapbooks in his South Shore apartment, Askia, a perennially unsuccessful candidate, acknowledges that he paid Democratic Party precinct workers $5 a sheet for some of the petitions, and now suspects they used a classic Chicago ruse of passing the papers among themselves to forge the signatures. “They round-tabled me,” Askia said.

    Paying signature collectors is legal and is common practice. Askia did not ask for forged signatures but later suspected that his collectors had delivered signatures forged by “round-tabling.”

    Palmer to this day does not concede the flaws that Obama’s team found in her signatures. She maintains that she could have overcome the Obama team’s objections and stayed on the ballot if she had more time and resources.

    Some of the ‘flaws’ that could get a signature rejected are things like having moved, address in a different form (eg “St” instead of “Street), name/signature in a different form (eg with or without initials), printed name and signed name on the wrong lines, collector not having filled out his side of the form correctly, etc.

    Regardless of the details, Obama PREVENTED A VOTE so as to eliminate a “beloved elder stateswoman” who had been doing good work for his own cause in a “safe seat.” He got the seat, then abandoned it himself (in 2000 iirc to unsuccessfuly try to unseat a higher official). So Obama’s cause had lost a safe seat and a good stateswoman, for no gain.

    For those with strong stomachs, the story is worth reading entire, for perspective and for Obama’s comments justifying his actions.

    //

  222. Dear Admin & Regular Commenters on Big Pink:

    Did I ever tell you that you’re my Happy Place? It’s true. Some days this blog just tickles me, well – PINK! 😉

    Thank you just for being you.

  223. Thanks for the welcome, JanH. I have been checking this Web site for a while now and it gives me comfort knowing I am not alone. I think Obama will win the election, simply because the media will make sure of it. I hope he loses because the Democrats should be taught a lesson. They abaondoned Hillary, the candidate who had the experience and intellegence to be president, for a man who gives a good speech.

  224. BREAKING NEWS!
    WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

    According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

    This Breaking story begins on the new york post here:
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

    and has been picked up by these sites as well…..
    This if true? NEEDS TO BECOME A FIRE STORM OF A STORY!! Spread it far and wide!
    hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/did-obama-try-to-scotch-an-iraqi-us-agreement-on-military-forces/

    wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-tried-to-interfere-with-iraq.html

    betsyspage.blogspot.com/2008/09/did-obama-interfere-in-american.html

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