Obama And The Sunday After September 11, 2001

In 2001, on this date, in an almost cinematic, almost unbelievable moment, the World Trade Center towers fell. The attack that destroyed the towers shocked the nation. Americans grieved. Americans continue to grieve.

A few days later, 5 days later, on the Sunday after thousands died, there was no grieving in Obama’s Chicago church. Obama’s fellow parishioners, egged on by a fiery sermon by Obama’s long time friend of more than 20 years, Obama’s “old uncle”, applauded and laughed. In Obama’s church “America’s chickens” had “come home to roost.”

Obama remained a member of that church. Obama claims he was oblivious to what went on in that church in the same way Obama was oblivious to freezing tenants in his state senate district. Obama was oblivious to what happened in buildings he had helped obtain for his, now awaiting sentencing on corruption convictions, “bag man” Rezko.

Obama claims he was oblivious to his pastor using the “n” word in church in front of very young children. Obama claims he was oblivious to “God Damn America.” Obama remained a member of that church after Obama found out about the “chickens” and the “God Damn”. It was only after his “old uncle” called him a “politician” that Obama was roused sufficiently to walk away from the pastor that described him oh so accurately.

The Democratic leadership of the once great Democratic Party selected the oblivious Obama as their candidate.

Americans will snub the oblivious Obama in NOvember – that bit of justice is obvious with every passing day.

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437 thoughts on “Obama And The Sunday After September 11, 2001

  1. I think that beginning on Sept. 12 we may hear Rev. Wright’s and Dr. Ayers’ opinion on Sept. 11. I suspect that a 527 already has it “in the can’.

  2. Thanks for reporting this, Admin.

    Good mornng everyone.
    Just popped if for a second before errands. I have been watching the NBC coverage of the original WTC attack and in addition to evoking the horror, the pain of seeing the real incident, it has made me even more aware of what it is about BO that prevents me from ever supporting him.

    The people who planned WTC attack were filled with hatred for this country, its citizens, its history. The groups BO has associated with are filled with the same hatred, from black Liberation theologists to Nation of Islam adherents, from Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground to Jeremiah Wright, Bill Phlegler, Louis Farrakhan, Khadafi, Chavez, Michelle and the list goes on and on.

    Anyone who truly remembers WTC can never vote for anyone who has the slightest taint of anti-Americanism.

    This is the first time I’ve seen the entire chronology from the original plane hitting the tower to the second plane’s impact, the collapse of the first tower, the hit on the pentagon, all reported in real time. Of course I’ve read tons about the attack, watched the fires and smoke from NJ, visited ground zero a couple of days later, saw St. Paul’s chapel covered in ash and soot, but seeing the entire incident unfold is just beyond belief even though it’s 7 years later.

    The hatred, the venom, the deliberate murder of thousands of innocent Americans, the glee with watch the ‘Great Satan” was confronted on its own territory just reminds me of the attitude of so many of BO’s mentors, from “Goddamn America Wright,” to “White folks greed serves a world in need Barry,” to “I didn’t do enough William Ayers.”

    It is sickening. I can’t understand how any of the reporters or politicians who were part of the WTC attack, reported on it, experienced it, knew people who died in it can now have any support for BO. Andrea Mitchell was there . . . Couric was there . . . Mat Lawrey was there . . .

  3. Oh dear, all the dems are at it now.

    http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080911/NEWS01/809110303

    Culture Of Corruption

    Firebrand Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer bragged to a convention of trial lawyers to have rigged the 2006 Montana’s elections in favor of the Democrat Party.

    Schweitzer, speaking at the American Association for Justice annual convention in Philadelphia on July 14, told a room full of convention-goers that he helped “turn some dials” to get fellow Democrat Jon Tester elected to the U.S. Senate.

    In his speech, Schweitzer claimed he played a role in removing GOP poll watchers from Montana’s Indian reservations; that he influenced the timing of the release of election results in Butte-Silver Bow County; and that he pressured the Associated Press to call the race for Tester on Nov. 8.

    On Wednesday Schweitzer backed off those remarks, saying his speech at the trial lawyers’ convention was meant to be humorous and that many of the comments weren’t actually true.

    “You know, humor can work sometimes and sometimes it can offend, and this time around it offended some folks,” Schweitzer said Wednesday afternoon.

    Schweitzer’s speech was recorded and recently posted anonymously on the Internet, where conservative bloggers were quick to attack the remarks. By Tuesday, news of the speech had traveled throughout Montana’s political circles and was causing a mild uproar among some Republicans.

    “The governor ought to be embarrassed,” said Montana GOP chairman Erik Iverson. “He brags all the time what a great ambassador he is for Montana, but his words and actions reflect poorly on our state. This isn’t funny, and it’s certainly nothing to brag about.”

  4. Admin,

    You’re picking on poor little Obama again…and doing a mighty fine job of it! 🙂

    Being oblivious to life and death issues will be Obama’s downfall. There is no excuse for the steps he has taken, not even ignorance of the facts.

  5. Moononpluto posted on the last thread:

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaWaPymjJ3rk&refer=worldwide

    Democrats are beginning to worry about losing the presidential election.

    After months of leading in voter enthusiasm, fundraising and most surveys, Barack Obama lost momentum to John McCain after the Republican convention last week. McCain has gotten a boost from his pick of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate and has surged ahead of Obama in some national polls, while running even in others.
    **************
    shouldn’t this headline read: Big Media begins to worry they’ve backed wrong candidate; begin to vet Obama and balance coverage to save own asses

  6. here’s a great list on Hillbuzz:

    The ABC’s of BO

    57 + 1 = number of states he visited in the US
    99 problems but a bitch ain’t one

    Ayers, William and Thomas
    Auchi, Nadhami
    Acorn
    Alsammarae, Aiham
    Annie Oakley
    Apostate Muslim
    Author of two fictional biographies
    Axelrod, David

    Brzezinski,Zbigniew
    Bundlers millions of $$$
    Black Liberation Marxist Theology
    Blogovitch, Rod
    Banking Committee he said he led
    Brandenburg Gate
    Biden – all that hoopla for change agent Joe
    Bitter people clinging to guns and religion
    Bros before Hoes
    Blame Hillary – chief primary strategy

    Civilian National Security Force
    Camp Obama – Free indoctrination
    Caucus fraud
    Cell phone ringing
    Chicago Annenberg Challenge
    Code Pink
    COLB photoshopped
    Cone, James

    Daley, Richard
    DKos aka great orange satan
    Davis, Frank Marshall
    Davis, Allison
    Dem for a Day
    DEBATES *put foot in mouth here*
    Dohrn, Bernadine
    Doyle, Patty Solis

    Edwards, John the diversion and in cahoots
    Exelon radioactive drinking water and $$$

    Fake Presidential Seal
    FISA
    Flag Pin and throwing out flags
    First time in my life I’m proud of my country
    Farrakhan, Louis lifetime achievement award
    Florida and Michigan block revotes
    Free music, beer and food to draw crowds

    GAFFES (personal favorite – Soviet Union)
    Gary, Indiana vote early, vote often, count really late
    Get in line and Get over it
    Goolsbee, Austin Nafta for Canucks

    Great Seal of the Obama Nation

    Great Temple of the Obama Nation in Denver

    Harry and Louise ad part deux
    Hamas Manifesto and endorsement
    Hopey changey ad nauseam
    Huffy Puffy

    Inflate your tires energy plan

    Jackson, Jesse Jr Tears for Katrina
    Jackson, Jesse Sr. Cut his nuts off
    Johnson, Hazel the real community activist
    Jones, Emil

    Khalidi, Rashid
    Kilpatrick, Kwame
    Killer-Spin

    Lee, Spike Chocolate city
    Ludacris

    Maytag
    Kahlid Al-Mansour
    Marzook
    McPeak, General
    Meeechelle
    Meeks, James
    Moss, Otis
    MSNBO aka General Electric
    Moveon

    Nation of Islam volunteers
    National Anthem
    New Black Panther party

    Operation board games
    Obongo Obama
    Odinga, Ralia (Dick Morris and cousin ob)
    O-Farce One

    Pfleger, Father
    Powers, Samantha Monster
    Pritzker, Penny
    Pets and dead people voting
    Periodic moods feeling down

    Pig, lipstick on a
    Public Financing
    Puff Daddy obama or die
    Punjab Hillary
    Palmer, Alice

    Quadaffi

    RBC May 31, 2008
    Racist Bill, Hillary, Gerry and all non-koolade drinkers
    Rhodes, Randi
    Recreate 68
    Rezko the lord of the slums
    Rulz are da Rulz ‘cept when they are the rules

    Spring break in Pakistan 1981 during Jihad
    Soros, George
    Sweetie

    Tea parties – all Hillary ever did
    Teamsters oversight
    Temple of Doom at Invesco
    TUCC
    Typical White Person
    Ummmmmmmm
    Union workers in Vegas had their own caucus sites
    Victory declared shouldn’t have included SD’s
    WAFFLE, Can I just eat my
    Wright, Jeremiah GD America
    Woods Fund

    W.O.R.M.
    X, Malcolm
    You’re likeable enough
    Young, Donald RIP

    Zero – what the big O stands for
    Zee assorted dem mob – Kennedy, Kerry, Oprah, Caroline, Nancy, Dean and Donna Brazilenut

  7. CountTheVotes Says:

    You beat me to it.*g* I was going to say that I read the whole list and knew the background of each entry, thanks to many months of reading Hill44 and B. Merry.

  8. SHV- seriously, me too.

    We could do our own version of Obama Jeopardy or Obama Wheel of Fortune (“A – Auchi, ding, ding, ding”) thanks to Admin.

  9. BO only wrote/mentioned 9/11 in 3 paragraphs, about 1 – 1 1/2 page is his “audacity of hope”… a book over 400 pages….

    that says it all….

    Even I inn California can write so much about that day…and the few weeks after…

  10. Obama Can’t Win
    Against Palin
    By KARL ROVE
    September 11, 2008; Page A13

    Of all the advantages Gov. Sarah Palin has brought to the GOP ticket, the most important may be that she has gotten into Barack Obama’s head. How else to explain Sen. Obama’s decision to go one-on-one against “Sarah Barracuda,” captain of the Wasilla High state basketball champs?

    It’s a matchup he’ll lose. If Mr. Obama wants to win, he needs to remember he’s running against John McCain for president, not Mrs. Palin for vice president.

    AP
    Michael Dukakis spent the last months of the 1988 campaign calling his opponent’s running mate, Dan Quayle, a risky choice and even ran a TV ad blasting Mr. Quayle. The Bush/Quayle ticket carried 40 states.

    Adlai Stevenson spent the fall of 1952 bashing Dwight Eisenhower’s running mate, Richard Nixon, calling him “the kind of politician who would cut down a redwood tree, and then mount the stump and make a speech for conservation.” The Republican ticket carried 39 of 48 states.

    If Mr. Obama keeps attacking Mrs. Palin, he could suffer the fate of his Democratic predecessors. These assaults highlight his own tissue-thin résumé, waste precious time better spent reassuring voters he is up for the job, and diminish him — not her.

    Consider Mr. Obama’s response to CNN’s Anderson Cooper, who asked him about Republican claims that Mrs. Palin beats him on executive experience. Mr. Obama responded by comparing Wasilla’s 50 city workers with his campaign’s 2,500 employees and dismissed its budget of about $12 million a year by saying “we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.” He claimed his campaign “made clear” his “ability to manage large systems and to execute.”

    Of course, this ignores the fact that Mrs. Palin is now governor. She manages an $11 billion operating budget, a $1.7 billion capital expenditure budget, and nearly 29,000 full- and part-time state employees. In two years as governor, she’s vetoed over $499 million from Alaska’s capital budget — more money than Mr. Obama is likely to spend on his entire campaign.

    And Mr. Obama is not running his campaign’s day-to-day operation. His manager, David Plouffe, assisted by others, makes the decisions about the $335 million the campaign has spent. Even if Mr. Obama is his own campaign manager, does that qualify him for president?

    A debate between Mr. Obama and Mrs. Palin over executive experience also isn’t smart politics for Democrats. As Mr. Obama talks down Mrs. Palin’s record, voters may start comparing backgrounds. He won’t come off well.

    Then there was Mr. Obama’s blast Saturday about Mrs. Palin’s record on earmarks. He went at her personally, saying, “you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person.”

    It’s true. Mrs. Palin did seek earmarks as Wasilla’s mayor. But as governor, she ratcheted down the state’s requests for federal dollars, telling the legislature last year Alaska “cannot and must not rely so heavily on federal government earmarks.” Her budget chief directed state agencies to reduce earmark requests to only “the most compelling needs” with “a strong national purpose,” explaining to reporters “we really want to skinny it down.”

    Mr. Obama has again started a debate he can’t win. As senator, he has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks, ratcheting up his requests each year he’s been in the Senate. If voters dislike earmarks — and they do — they may conclude Mrs. Palin cut them, while Mr. Obama grabs for more each year.

    Mr. Obama may also pay a price for his “lipstick on a pig” comment. The last time the word “lipstick” showed up in this campaign was during Mrs. Palin’s memorable ad-lib in her acceptance speech. Mr. Obama says he didn’t mean to aim the comment at Mrs. Palin, but he deserves all the negative flashback he gets from the snarky aside.

    Sen. Joe Biden has now joined the attack on Mrs. Palin, saying this week that her views on issues show she’s “obviously a backwards step for women.” This is a mistake. Mr. Obama is already finding it difficult to win over independent women and Hillary Clinton voters. If it looks like he’s going out of his way to attack Mrs. Palin, these voters may conclude it’s because he has a problem with strong women.

    In Denver two weeks ago, Mr. Obama said, “If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.” That’s what he’s trying to do, only the object of his painting is Sarah Palin, not John McCain.

    In Mrs. Palin, Mr. Obama faces a political phenomenon who has altered the election’s dynamics. Americans have rarely seen someone who immediately connects with large numbers of voters at such a visceral level. Mrs. Palin may be the first vice presidential candidate since Lyndon B. Johnson to change an election’s outcome. If Mr. Obama keeps attacking her, the odds of Gov. Palin becoming Vice President Palin increase significantly.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  11. What a beautiful memorial at the Pentagon and I still see MSNBC is still in the tank for Obama with their not showing all the 911 memorials this year.

    I guess they didn’t want Bambi to be shown up by McCain or repeat all they criticisms said by the people at Morning Joe.

    We’ve said before here at this site that Obama is WEAK and it’s easy to look strong and tough when the “fix is in.”

    But now we’re in the big league and Obama is on his own and his true abilities will be highlighted not hidden or scripted.

  12. I think the GOP has to be careful with the 9/11 stuff and Obama. Running a big ad with Rev. Wright’s hateful comments would backfire, be seen as too crass at this painful time.

    They can do it, remind the nation of where Obama went for his “spiritual comfort” in those dark days, but it needs to be subtle.

  13. I’m getting emails from liberal (male) friends who are saying, “Palin will move back the women’s movement 40 years” and in the same breath the disgusting – “Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

    As if they know anything about the women’s movement. Rarely do I quote Paglia – but she’s right, the women’s movement needs to be a big tent.

    And now Palin is Pontius Pilate or a Nazi sympathizer…these people are crazy.

  14. Poll: Swing state voters approve of Palin
    By The Associated Press – 35 minutes ago

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8WvoRnUTs6fEo8Os3k4YlshdOvQD934IORO0

  15. CountTheVotes, these idiots think the “womens movement” consists of Choice. That’s it. That’s all. That is the sum total of the women’s movement to them.

    They are full of it. I AM A WHOLE PERSON, not a walking talking uterus.

  16. And the nasty beat goes on. Just received this in my e-mail:

    Calling all Clinton Dems! Hillary will be attending a reception for Sheila Jackson Lee on September 21st in Houston Texas and they need your help! This is no ordinary fundraiser… There appears to be an all out effort on to oust representatives that supported Hillary from their congressional seats. Sheila is one of them. Big money players are supporting Sheila’s opponent and really putting the heat on. The “politics of personal destruction” is their game. The smear campaign is in full swing. Sheila stood with Hillary though her entire primary run and received threats, intimidation and namecalling just for supporting her. This kind of behavior can not be rewarded! Please come to her defense by attending this Houston fundraiser. If you can’t be there, please consider donating to her campaign. JOIN HILLARY IN HOUSTON, SEPT 21, 1.30 PM Invitation (Please RSVP): http://www.sheilajacksonlee18.com

  17. carby, Interesting internals on those new Quinnipiac polls:

    FL – Almost a quarter of those who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary say they are backing McCain. That’s up from the 14 percent of Clinton supporters that backed him in the same poll last month.

    OH – McCain’s support from former Clinton backers went from 23 percent last month to 28 percent.

    PA – Twenty-two percent of former Clinton supporters are now backing McCain, about the same as the 25 percent last month in the same poll

  18. I put my employer as “Democracy” in the field, and I put “PUMA” as my occupation.

    Confirmation No.: 2708XX
    Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
    Name of Contributor: XXXXX
    Date of Contribution: 9/11/2008
    Amount: $200.00

  19. birdgal Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Thanks for the reminder about Congresswoman Jackson Lee. I usually don’t contribute to incumbents but the ‘bots are truly despicable. A few $$ to her.

  20. Sheila Jackson-Lee deserves all the help that we can give her. I will also make a donation. Chalk up another reason not to vote for BZero.

  21. HFT..that’s clever..I will do that next time

    Confirmation No.: 270xxx
    Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
    Name of Contributor: xxxx xxxxxx
    Date of Contribution: 9/11/2008
    Amount: $250.00

  22. and now we know why Obama shut up shop in georgia, what was that about those southern states again…..

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/17445106/detail.html

    ATLANTA — A new InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position survey shows that Sen. John McCain has moved out to an 18 point lead in Georgia over Sen. Barack Obama in the presidential race.

    The poll released Wednesday shows 56 percent of likely registered Georgia voters prefer McCain to 38 percent for Obama. Two percent prefer other candidates and four percent are undecided.

    The poll of 506 registered likely voters, weighted for age, race, and gender, was conducted Wednesday evening. It has a margin of error of +/- 4 percent.

    The steep decline for the Obama campaign likely explains why the candidate is moving resources out of Georgia and into other states, according to InsiderAdvantage’s Matt Towery.

  23. To all WOMEN,

    Why they DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY doesn’t deserve your vote, this year!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk&eurl=http://www.knx1070.com/Matt-Damon-on-Sarah-Palin/2949550

    SEXISM AND MYSOGINY alive and well and being promoted by the DEMOCRATC? Taliban PARTY.

    Until Women stop being CO-DEPENDENT and STAND UP for each other and look at the BIGGER PICTURE they will forever by in BONDAGE to the ills of sexism and mysoginy.

    We are not a walking, talking UTERUS and we have more that unite us then divide us and only by joining forces and fighting for our share of power will we see the lives of women improving.

    Do not fall into the trap of groups that mask as one issue politics…they will be the first one to break your knees if you don’t drink their kool-aid and sell you down the river with their silence in your hour of need.

    DO.NOT.REWARD.THE.CRAPPY.BEHAVIER…..EVER!

    Do not reward any group that demean, dismiss, tear down your confidence in yourself esteem. Too many women die everyday because of their low self esteem….so don’t participate in negative behavior by those who do not have your liberty in their heart.

  24. OT, but here in San Antonio we are gearing up bigtime for Ike. We won’t get the brunt of the winds, but will get the biggest influx of people fleeing inward from the coast, and the rains could be a problem.

    A lot of people don’t realize that because of the geography, central texas can be immobilized by severe flooding very quickly. We have a big problem with flash flooding even with normal rains.

    However, I’m proud of my state and my city so far. We have over 400 buses and 50 high-clearance trucks and over 1000 troops from local bases, and mobile medical services and the works, who are all already being deployed and sitting between San Antonio and the coast, waiting to move in as soon as needed.

  25. Newest smear on Palin – Dailykos now spreading another hateful rumor.

    A poster at NQ got screenshots. There have been two diaries so far with the smear that “Bristol’s baby’s daddy is black, not the guy she claims is the dad.”

    BTW, one of my new requirements for EVER voting for or donating to Dem candidates in the future is that they disassociate themselves from the hateful Cheetos. I will not vote for ANY candidate that actively courts them. EVER.

  26. Culture Of Corruption–Schweitzer-does it-brags about it-gets attacked for it-and now he is on the run-go figure-no high moral ground–oh thats right its for a good moral cause–as he defined it–I dont think Tester would pull this go along with this crap regardless of what he claims–saw schweitzer at the convention and he stuck me as an odd duck–not the kind of montanans I have known all my life–especially montanans and farmers/cattlemen. They are not big on cheating.

  27. HillaryforTexas Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 11:49 am
    Newest smear on Palin – Dailykos now spreading another hateful rumor
    ——————————————————————————————————

    Even it happened to be true, so what??? PINOs. What a bunch of hateful people. BO said, family was off limits. I guess these jerks didn’t get the memo.

  28. mariaconz Says:
    If I remember right, it was the former Democratic National Committee chairman who wished for a hurricane during the Republican Convention. Can’t remember his name, but I believe I’m right in saying he’s a former DNC chairman
    =============

    Iirc Dan Fowler, a former DNC chair, made a remark that the approaching storm showed that God was on the Dem side…???? Later he said it was a reference to some fundy televangelist saying something like that in the past.

  29. birdgal, it is the EXACT same thing that Bush did to McCain in 2000 – spread the rumor that his sweet adopted Bangladeshi daughter was really a half-black bastard child. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but to try to get the racists to not vote for him, or others to question his honesty.

    DailyKos and the extreme left blogs have become what they said they despised. They are trying to stir up hate over secret inter-racial sex to try to scare conservatives from voting for McCain/Palin.

    They are PIGS. Hateful pigs. They have become George Bush.

  30. South carolinas is realed FOWLED up!!

    First Don Fowler and his gift from god hurricane moment!

    And then Carol? fowler and Palin only qualifiction is not choosing abortion!!!

    This from the state of race mongers…clyburn!!!

  31. I work for a large HMO in northern CA, and this article was in our intranet bulletin. I thought it was touching and appropriate for the current events.

    “KP Baby a Bright Light in Times Square

    October is National Down Syndrome Awareness Month

    KP therapist’s son is selected for photo montage appearing this month on Broadway to raise awareness about Down syndrome.

    By Susan McDonough

    When Kalista and David Hickman learned their newborn son had Down syndrome, among the myriad fears and misconceptions assailing Kalista was the fear her baby might not be cute.

    The winning photo of Nathan.
    “I know it was a silly concern,” said Kalista, a marriage and family therapist at Kaiser Permanente Vacaville, and the proud mommy of Nathan Hickman, who at 18 months is downright, unquestionably adorable.

    She knows it. He knows it. And come Sept. 28, the world will too.

    Nathan was selected to appear in a National Down Syndrome Society video premiering Sept. 28 in Times Square.

    The 15-minute production will play on the larger-than-life plasma screen in the heart of New York’s Times Square. It’s intended to demonstrate that people with Down syndrome can be successfully included in community activities, education, and employment.

    It features some 200 photos of children, teens, and adults with Down syndrome working, playing, learning, and enjoying life with friends and family.

    Nathan is pictured outdoors dining at a restaurant in Davis with his family. The photo— taken by mom when he was 1—was selected from some 2,500 entries.

    Kalista, a first-time mom, said she is delighted Nathan was chosen to be part of such an important video.

    It wasn’t until he was born eight weeks premature at Kaiser Permanente Morse Avenue in Sacramento that she and her husband learned Nathan had Down syndrome.

    Until then, she said, they were ignorant about the genetic condition affecting some 400,000 Americans.

    The Hickmans feared their son would be severely delayed developmentally and different from other children. They thought that with his developmental delays, and with a hearing problem that has since been resolved, he might never be able to communicate with them.

    “Initially, I really thought about the negatives—the things I thought he might be unable to do, rather than what he could do,” Kalista said.

    Life with Nathan has taught her otherwise.

    At 18 months, he is a happy little guy who fits in perfectly with the other children at his mainstream child care center on the UC Davis campus.

    He loves animals, and likes to look at books with pictures of animals and hear his mom make animal noises.

    The fluid in his ears at birth has drained and he hears just fine. And although he isn’t walking or talking much yet, he is starting to use sign language, and can understand what his parents say.

    “He will mimic things we say, such as ‘dees,’ for kitties and ‘ooo,’ for meow,” Kalista said.

    “He is like a normal baby, he just does things slower than other people.”

    She said she is grateful for the sensitivity and care with which her Kaiser Permanente care givers delivered the news to her and her husband at the hospital shortly after Nathan was born.

    But more can be done to raise awareness, she said.

    People with Down syndrome can live happy, productive lives, be part of their communities, go to school, graduate, work, drive cars, participate in social and recreational activities, make friends, have romantic relationships, and live independently.

    Kalista said it is especially important for heath care providers to remember this so when telling parents their child has Down syndrome “they’re not just giving the bad news.”

    The video kicks off National Down Syndrome Awareness Month and will be followed by Buddy Walks across the country in October, including in Sacramento, San Jose, Modesto, and Walnut Creek, to raise money for education, research, and advocacy efforts that benefit people with Down syndrome and their families.

    09/10/08

    I can’t post the link, because it is within our own system.

    October is Down’s Syndrome Awareness month:

    www1.ndss.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1962&Itemid=233

  32. So, for all you Eastern elites and snobs, along with kooks and nutzos, TAKE THAT!

    Palin is going to bring this issue into the mainstream, even more than it is already. This was in the works, way before Palin was thrust into the limelight.

  33. Peppermintgirl said: You mean Hillary was to be knocked out after New Hampshire so Obama could “take hold” and make the changes necessary to be accepted by Americans at that time – oust Wright etc.????
    =========

    I think if they’d known what was on the Wright tapes they’d have done something immediately, before the public heard about them.

  34. Obama’s well-heeled friends benificiaries of earmarks
    Ed Lasky

    Barack Obama has a long and expensive history of earmarking. He has used them to benefit political allies in Chicago (Pastor Wright, Father Pfleger, Reverend Meeks). He has also used them to benefit financial donors (the slumlords and newly minted felon Tony Rezko).

    Now a new one comes to light-courtesy of the Washington Times. Senator Obama tried to direct a 3 million dollar earmark to a museum that has as its chairman one of Obama’s largest fundraisers.

    Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama tried to direct more than $3 million in taxpayer funds to a Chicago museum whose chairman is one of the Illinois senator’s largest campaign fundraisers.

    Mr. Obama has twice since fiscal 2006 sought to have taxpayers foot the bill for a new theater projector and other equipment at the Adler Planetarium on the Lake Michigan waterfront. Neither of the requests, which totaled $3.3 million, was approved by Congress, the museum said.

    The planetarium’s chairman, then and still, is Frank Clark, chief executive of ComEd, a unit of Chicago-based Exelon Energy. He has pledged to raise more than $200,000 for Mr. Obama’s run for the White House.

    Moreover, the Adler Planetarium is represented by the lobbying firm National Group LLP, co-founded by William Oldaker, who helped launch Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s political action committee in 2005. Mr. Oldaker, a partner with the Delaware Democrat’s son in another Washington lobbying and law firm, is no longer involved with Mr. Biden’s PAC, Unite Our States.

    Frank Clark is chief executive of Com Ed, a unit of Exelon Energy. Those two names ring bells. Bill Ayers is one of Obama’s radical friends and a man who launched Obama’s political career with a fundraiser at his home. Bill Ayers father once headed Commonwealth Edison – the precursor of Com Ed.

    What also might be striking is that David Axelrod, Obama’s campaigns strategist, runs a lobbying firm that benefited greatly from running a phony “grassroots campaign” for ComEd in that utility’s quest to charge higher rates to Illinois consumers.

    Those are the little people Obama is supposed to be fighting for, right

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/obamas_wellheeled_friends_beni.html
    *****************************************************
    No wonder the people of Chicago is served so poorly…they elected official are so busy self dealing.

  35. Did you know…

    One in every 733 babies born in the U.S. has Down syndrome. The life expectancy of people with Down syndrome has increased dramatically in recent decades – from 25 in 1983 to 56 today. In that same span of time, advancements in education, research and advocacy have had a tremendous impact on the opportunities that individuals with Down syndrome have to live healthy and fulfilling lives. Today, many people with Down syndrome:

    Attend neighborhood schools and learn in typical classes alongside their peers without disabilities.
    Graduate from high school and go to college.
    Comprise a vibrant part of the American workforce.
    Actively participate in the social and recreational aspects of their communities.
    Live independently, make their own choices, and advocate for their rights.

    www1.ndss.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1962&Itemid=233

  36. Re. Fowler: as I recall it was a joke he made to someone on an airplane with was recorded and broadcast on u-tube and then removed. The clip made no reference to Falwell and there is no indication that he was thinking of Falwell in the moment–or that Falwell was the motivation. When he was called on it later, he was looking for some way to justify the cheap comment after the fact and decided to raise Falwell as a defense after the fact.

  37. CountTheVotes Says: I don’t know what stage of grief this is – but sometimes I feel guilty that I’m not thinking about Hillary as much as I used to. Maybe it is the feeling of being sidelined – and now we’re just watching the back and forth of this election that is getting crazier and crazier.
    ============

    I’m thinking of Hillary’s prospects in 2012 and as Senate Majority Leader in 2009.

    I don’t think about the way she’s acting now becasue I don’t understand it. Must be being pressured or having inside knowledge.

    There’s a movement http://www.hrcforsenatemajorityleader09.com which I think is very good. Trying to get people and other politicians to publiclly support that. If she wins SML they cannot pressure her as they did this year.

  38. Film of McCain being released from Vietnamese prison is discovered.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080911/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_vietnam_video

  39. wbboei,
    As a matter of law, you are said to intend the natural and probable consequences of your sactions. If I close my eyes and drive my car through a cross walk I may not have it in my mind to kill someone but the law will treat it as an intentional act. If the effect of Brazilles actions is to install dishonest incompetent leadership that tanks the country then I think she intended the logical and probable consequences of her actions. How say ye?
    =========

    I said “Brazile” but I was exaggerating. I think she wants Blacks to control the country or something, and doesn’t care if she damages the Dem party for some years in the process. She might think it worth the chance of McGovern-scale damage to the party. She may not care about the country either. Maybe all she wants is revenge, ala Wright? I don’t think she wants to put in Obama for the purpose of him mismanaging the country. I think she wants to put him in (or somehow get control of the party) and doesn’t care how much damage she causes trying. (Unless she’s a secret Black Muslim or something and wants him to turn the country over to some foreigners whose names I can’t spell and I can’t remember which of them is on which side of the Palestinian Rubicon anyway.)
    If someone drives through a crosswalk they may be convicted of killing the people on the crosswallk, but if they drive on through a construction wall and drop 50 feet and wreck their car, I don’t think they necessarily intended that if they didn’t know what was behind the wall.

  40. carbynew Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
    Obama’s well-heeled friends benificiaries of earmarks

    Here is another Obama earmark that I posted last night..pure corruption:
    Stinking fish??? One of Obama’s earmarks:
    (snip)
    Wow a $2 million dollar earmark for a foundation that has on the board of directors, Obama’s campaign lawyer and Rezko’s benefactors too. Yea, but law firms are above reproach….right?
    Quote:
    In January 2008, the judge was informed that Auchi was funneling money through foreign banks via the Chicago law firm of Freeborn & Peters, to fund Rezko’s legal defense and she revoked his bond. “Through records from Northern Trust Bank,” prosecutors wrote, “the government has learned there was an approximately $3.5 million wire transfer in April 2007.” Northern Trust being the same entity holding the Land Trust for Obama‘s mansion.

    w.ballot.com/hotwire/27037-obama-earmark-for-rezko.htm

  41. If the embedded video above doesn’t work, here’s the URL:

    svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22584&a=1243689&lid=puff_1243756&lpos=rubrik

  42. filbertsf said:
    There are so many great Dems in leadership ability. I don’t know what happened this election for them to fall so madly in love with BO that they couldn’t see the forest from the trees.
    But they are by no means destructive to this country. Many, as CTV stated, want to see the US returned to its glory.

    wbboei Says:
    Filbersf: I could give you several other people who were in a similar boat and not give the game away. kennedy, dean, pelosi, for starters
    —–

    To both of you I say, imo no one vetted Obama. They wanted to bump out Hillary and he seemed to be a very competent politician: certainly cold and calculating and covering his own, er, interests at every stage of his career.

    No one knew about his craziness with Wright or his feeling that he really IS some kind of messiah. No one knew how badly he’d perform when promoted beyond his ability — or that the campaign itself would prove beyond his ability. He looked like a smooth, articulate, clean puppet who could perform for them as he had for the Daley machine.

  43. wbboei Says September 11th, 2008 at 1:39 am
    —————–

    Neat summary of Brazile’s actions. Your Rove before the beginning of time conspiracy is missing a piece: the GOP moved up FL’s primary in the first place.

  44. wbboei Says September 11th, 2008 at 1:39 am
    Her agenda was to displace centist leadership. She conspired with Karl Rove to do it. She knew it could cost the election

    ———————–

    How has she kept her leadership in the DNC despite losing in 2000 and 2004? How do we make sure BO’s loss this November will take his backers out of the DNC?

  45. To both of you I say, imo no one vetted Obama. They wanted to bump out Hillary and he seemed to be a very competent politician: certainly cold and calculating and covering his own, er, interests at every stage of his career.

    No one knew about his craziness with Wright or his feeling that he really IS some kind of messiah. No one knew how badly he’d perform when promoted beyond his ability — or that the campaign itself would prove beyond his ability. He looked like a smooth, articulate, clean puppet who could perform for them as he had for the Daley machine.

    That is exactly right!!..The years of planning to take down the Clinton’s was undone by hubris..when Dean, Brazille et al pick a smooth talking sociopath to do the dirty work. The Greeks knew about the gods and hubris…Dean, Pelosi and Donna are getting a lesson from the ancient Greek gods.

  46. Daddy Yankee Defends His Decision To Back John McCainReggaetón artist won’t accept Fat Joe’s challenge to a political debate.
    By Chris Harris

    Daddy Yankee has gone on the defensive after his endorsement of Republican presidential nominee John McCain prompted Fat Joe to dub him “a sellout.”

    “A man does not sell out when he backs his ideals,” the Latin Grammy-winning reggaetón artist told the New York Post from his home in Puerto Rico.

    Yankee’s unwavering support of the Arizona senator shocked several in the hip-hop community, but that doesn’t mean Yankee is about to stop backing the man he feels is best suited for the gig.

    “I don’t care who I piss off,” Yankee told the Post, while promoting the movie he produced and stars in, “Talento del Barrio.” “This is about my ideals, not about making friends. Senator McCain is the kind of man whose promises you can actually believe in.”

    Yankee met McCain in 2006, when both were included in Time magazine’s list of 100 People Who Shaped Our World. He said he hit it off with McCain and recently visited Washington, D.C., to meet with the senator.

    “I like his stance on immigration reform, that he works across party lines to help immigrants, that he agreed to take a look and help the dire situation of aid to the veterans of Puerto Rico,” Yankee said. “It’s not fair that Boricua soldiers die and fight in wars and don’t get the same benefits as those on the mainland. I like that el senador agreed to take a serious look and help those kinds of issues affecting us on the island.”

    When asked if he ever considered Democratic nominee Barack Obama for the nation’s highest office, Yankee said “never — not for a minute.” He also tiptoed around Fat Joe’s challenge to a debate, saying, “Look, I’m not a politician. I am a man with ideals, and I think that el Senador McCain is the best candidate. I asked el senador point-blank about whether or not he will seriously help Puerto Rico and our veterans here, and he said, ‘Yes. You endorse me, and I will do it.’ I believe he will back up his word.”

    As a Puerto Rican resident, Daddy Yankee can’t vote for president, but he urged other Latinos to participate in the election. “There are 18.1 million Latinos who are eligible,” he said. “Let your voices be heard.”

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1594589/20080911/fat_joe.jhtml

  47. Neat summary of Brazile’s actions. Your Rove before the beginning of time conspiracy is missing a piece: the GOP moved up FL’s primary in the first place
    ————————————-
    turndown-thanks I will correct it

  48. Obama’s Lipstick Smear

    When Barack Obama stood in Lebanon, Virginia on September 9, and said, “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” I must say I concurred. And like tens of millions of Americans, I didn’t think it was an insult directed at Gov. Sarah Palin. But it was a lame attempt at a quip to demonstrate that Sarah Palin is nothing new or that the McCain/Palin ticket doesn’t represent real change. I actually think the phrase fits far better on the Democrats, and particularly Obama, who has spent more than a year and half pretending to be what he isn’t in order to garner votes that he otherwise would not receive.

    It was obvious that Obama was going to be a weak candidate when he confronted Maureen Dowd in December 2006, for comments she made about his ears. It was after a speech in New Hampshire that Obama walked up to Dowd and said: “You talked about my ears, and I just want to put you on notice: I’m very sensitive about [them]…I was teased relentlessly when I was a kid about my big ears.'” What? How is a man who can’t handle being ribbed for having gigantic ears ever supposed to handle the threats of our terroristic enemy; an enemy that will certainly forego picking on his ears in their bid to go straight for the throat?

    What’s sad is that the complaint Obama lodged with Dowd may be the most genuine thing the guy has said in the last 20 months. In other words, weakness is the one thing he displays honestly

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28493

  49. “To begin with, Obama ran on “change,” which is a convenient motto because it means whatever he wants it to mean, depending on what type of crowd he is speaking to and where. Thus, while he tells middle-America that he supports the family and loves his wife (the one who never appears with him because she has a negative impact on poll results), his campaign passes out fliers in San Francisco which say that Obama has pledged himself to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act and which also indicates his full-blown opposition to any Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage. (This is why Palin took time in her convention speech to point out that Obama talks one way to people in Scranton and another to people in San Francisco.)”

  50. BTW, I think David Letterman is a PUMA.

    When he had BO on his show last night, he set a little stuffed orange cat on the desk. He made a joke that it had something to do with his cat at home, but a lot of PUMAs are thinking it was a shout out.

    Orange is official PUMA colors, for those who didn’t know.

  51. HillaryforTexas Says September 11th, 2008 at 11:16 am
    —-
    /grump/
    I wish Quin would leave out the fancy language and give the facts clearly:
    FL – Mc gained 10 points (from 14 to 25)
    OH – Mc gained 5 points (from 23 to 28)
    PA – Mc lost 3 points (from 25 to 23)

  52. I heard from the backchannel of Pelosis office that the deal I referred yesterday was real. Doubts were raised about whethe Bambi could be trusted and it fell through for that reason. Now msnbc is trying to dismiss bidens opener as a self deprecating remark.

    We will see if anything different comes out when bambi meets wiht wjc today.

    Bambi is is unravelling tanking but sara has issues. The country is in a strange frame of mine. The hurricane is likely to defer.

    Nothing is predicatable at this point save this: the Republicans need to take the focus off Palin and hit Obama with everthing they have the sooner the better. Will they do it? I am skeptical.

  53. Camille Paglia: Sarah Palin = Muscular American Feminism

    In her latest column at Salon the always provocative and entertaining Camille Paglia manages to trash John McCain, ridicule Barack Obama, and raise Sarah Palin to near iconic stature as the embodiment of future woman. She uses vignettes of strong women from her own family and from American history to bolster her thesis that Palin represents a new feminism, a pioneering and muscular American feminism. she writes…(emphasis added)

    Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism since Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment…

    Regarding a female candidate’s preparation for becoming CINC of the armed forces she says…

    As a dissident feminist, I have been arguing since my arrival on the scene nearly 20 years ago that young American women aspiring to political power should be studying military history rather than taking women’s studies courses, with their rote agenda of never-ending grievances…

    Paglia has particular disdain for the explosion of lies, innuendos, and slurs emanating from the left blogosphere following the McCain pick of Palin for his V.P….

    Over the Labor Day weekend, with most of the big enchiladas of the major media on vacation, the vacuum was filled with a hallucinatory hurricane in the leftist blogosphere, which unleashed a grotesquely lurid series of allegations, fantasies, half-truths and outright lies about Palin. What a tacky low in American politics — which has already caused a backlash that could damage Obama’s campaign. When liberals come off as childish, raving loonies, the right wing gains. I am still waiting for substantive evidence that Sarah Palin is a dangerous extremist…

    On Palin’s supposed extremist views:

    But what of Palin’s pro-life stand? Creationism taught in schools? Book banning? Gay conversions? The Iraq war as God’s plan? Zionism as a prelude to the apocalypse? We’ll see how these big issues shake out. Right now, I don’t believe much of what I read or hear about Palin in the media. To automatically assume that she is a religious fanatic who has embraced the most extreme ideas of her local church is exactly the kind of careless reasoning that has been unjustly applied to Barack Obama, whom the right wing is still trying to tar with the fulminating anti-American sermons of his longtime preacher, Jeremiah Wright.
    continue…….

    steadyhabits.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/camille-paglia-sarah-palin-muscular-american-feminism/

  54. Do Democrats still not get it?
    By Jason Kosena 9/11/08 11:53 AM

    As the popularity of John McCain’s surprise pick for vice president, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, continues to surge and for the first time polls show McCain tied or with a slight advantage over Barack Obama, some are beginning to wonder if the Democrats still don’t get it.

    In an op-ed piece in The New York Daily News today, Michael Goodwin makes that case.

    Now, anyone who reads Goodwin knows he is a conservative and that alone might cause some people to dismiss his claims, but smart Democrats might want to read a little closer. How is it that Bill Clinton is the only Democrat since 1976 to be elected to the White House despite the party being able to gain control of the House and the Senate more than once during the same time period?

    Yeah, that thing called the electoral map has something to do with it, but there is more to winning than just maps.

    Goodwin’s larger point shouldn’t be missed among Democrats who have sat for weeks wondering what happened to the blistering lead Obama and their party enjoyed just a few months ago: The pattern is not new.

    Democrats have an unflappable faith that American voters will see through all the character attacks and mud-slinging and vote for the candidate that best serves them. And being Democrats, they naturally believe that candidate is their guy. But, as was the case with most every Democratic nominee for president since Carter, Al Gore and John Kerry included, that apparent strategy of hoping the American public will sift through the rhetoric and personal attacks and vote on the issues hasn’t worked.

    It most likely won’t work this year either.

    http://www.coloradoindependent.com/7795/do-democrats-still-not-get-it/

  55. Please, Hillary, while campaigning for Obama, you MUST find a way to disassociate yourself from the sleaze that has become the Dem campaign. When it is over and the Dems are eating each other alive in reproaches and finger-pointing, you need to be able to point back to “I told you so” which you did, and be the defender of Dem principles and decency.

  56. Thanks Admin for reminding of of the HUGE disparity between HRC and BHO responses to 9/11 May we ALL never forget the horrendous event and the love from one camp and the absolute hate from the other camp.

    Getting ready to vamoose (had to say “moose”) as we are under mandatory evacuation along the Texas coast. Just went through this two weeks ago when Gustav eventually landed west of New Orleans. Hurricand fatigue definitely, not to mention EXPENSIVE.

    Galveston Island is such a fabulous vacation spot, and I am so fearful of another 1900 storm. Also, Houston’s NASA, world-renowned Medical Center and oil-producing refineries from below Houston to Louisiana border and beyond. Petrified of the losses all the way around. Upped my homeowner’s and contents insurance big time, just in case. Storm surge possibilities unbelievable.

    Dismayed to see stories on NE website. Scumbags. Anything to try to bring Palin down. I still maintain that this only makes supporters dig their heels in even deeper.

    Bill (with BHO in Harlem) needs to tell him off. Before I would stump for him and put my credibility on the line, I would make him acknowledge the significant record of the Clinton years ad nauseum. I would also make BHO publicly state, along with EVERY SINGLE SURROGATE AND SUPERDELEGATE that Hillary was treated disrespectfully, in every possible way. CAUCUSES would be history. HISTORY. Then, I would give speeches will double entendre at every turn, so that viewers and HRC supporters could “read between the lines,” never ONCE mentioning Palin.

    We still won’t EVER vote for BHO, no matter what. We understand what Hill and Bill have to do. WE “get it.” Ashame the others allowed Dean, Pelosi, and Brazile to lead them astray – AGAIN.

    Back to evacuation now…..time to pack this up and move to higher ground.

    God Bless the 9/11 victims and their families, and those in uniform who have given All. They will remain always in our prayers.

  57. When Hubby is puttering around the kitchen in the early evening, he’ll sometimes turn on the radio and listen to Michael Savage for a laugh (personally, I don’t see the humor, but Hubby get’s a kick out of MS’s mental instability). Anyway, he cuts the radio on last night after dinner, and what is MS talking about? Barack Obama’s trouble with women. MS is going on and on about Bambi’s Oedipis Complex…blah blah blah. I’m standing at the sink doing the dishes, kind of half listening , when a female caller phones in. She’s a professional psychologist. She starts telling MS he’s got it all wrong…that what she see’s as Obama’s problem is Narcisistic Personality Disorder. My ears perk up, and I start actually listening. This doctor apparently knows quite a bit about Bambi…read both his biographies from the viewpoint of someone in her field, and made alot of really interesting observations about Bambi’s relationships with his mother, grandmother , and the men in his life.

    I have to admit, the show was damned interesting when the caller was on the line. Then MS hung up and the stupidity ensued, so I turned the radio to classic rock. LOL! Still…pretty funny to me that even a nutbag like MS is talking about things we have all touched on here many many moons ago.

  58. H4T et al…I will be worrying about you until Ike goes away. Take no chances. We need you Texas pit bulls. So board up and hunker down. Good luck!

  59. Have any of you wondered why what we predicted and warned against months and months ago was ignored by the great poobahs in our party?

    The only plausible explanation to me is that they read the tea leaves and figured the signs were so favorable that they could anoint a toadstool and walk away with the election.

    Arrogance goeth before a loss.

  60. Carbynew: I like the article you posted above not because I agree with it–I do not, but because it provides a good framework for discussion and rebuttal.

    The character attacks we have seen from Republicans since the days of Lee Atwater do tend to preclude a discussion of the issues tha matter and that is bad if we do not move beyond them. But it is natural that they would happen.

    Since antiquity public speakers who aimed to perusade an audience have relied a forumulaic approach of first ethos (who I am and why you should believe me), pathos (engage the emotions–Republican bashing–or whoever the devil de jour is), logos (the issues and why I am right). It gets back to the question: can he deliver?

    I hate Goodwin. Yes hate is the word. If you recollect back to his screaming deranged effort to destroy Hillary over the RFK comment you will understand the why of it.

  61. wbboei Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    I heard from the backchannel of Pelosis office that the deal I referred yesterday was real. Doubts were raised about whethe Bambi could be trusted and it fell through for that reason. Now msnbc is trying to dismiss bidens opener as a self deprecating remark.

    ———————–

    Are you talking about Biden being replaced with Hillary? What was the deal?

  62. Have any of you wondered why what we predicted and warned against months and months ago was ignored by the great poobahs in our party?

    I think, in large part , we all realized that Obama was a fad. There wasn’t enough substance there to get through the GE and come out on top. The party just couldn’t see that, no matter how much we warned them. They banked on Bambi’s popularity with a notoriously unreliable demographic. We warned them to listen to the base. But the party saw $$ and voter registration numbers among this unreliable demographic, and they couldn’t see the forest for the trees.

    Sad, but true.

  63. Are you talking about Biden being replaced with Hillary? What was the deal?
    ——————————————-
    pm: it was a proposal being pushed by some of the insiders as a possible answer to bambis tanking in the polls, the rise of palin and the recriminations over his failure to select Hillary. It had some initial momentum but it fell through. Consequently, there was no deal. I do not think it will happen now. Also he is low on money with bloated staff.

  64. OMG!!!!!
    EVERYONE must read this!!!!!!!

    It is the delegate voting tally from the Dem. convention. In the first (hotel room?) vote HRC
    was only down by 17 pledged delegates!!!!!

    17 PLEDGED DELEGATES!!!!!!

  65. basil9 Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    OMG!!!!!
    EVERYONE must read this!!!!!!!

    It is the delegate voting tally from the Dem. convention. In the first (hotel room?) vote HRC
    was only down by 17 pledged delegates!!!!!

    ——————————————————————————————————

    Well, that was probably why, Ms. Nasty stopped the voting, and shut the Hillary delegates out of the convention hall. What a nasty election season.

  66. Arrogance goeth before a loss.

    *****************************************************
    And Sexism and Misogyny reign in our party. For the party to think they can use S & M for a political tactic and still count on keeping the women vote tells me plenty in how respected we are in the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY.

    What’s WORST is that younger male between 18 – 45 are the worst offenders of this practice. The automatic assumption that it is alright to demean, dismissive and devalue Sarah Palin accomplishments as beneath contempt is indicative of a larger problem facing WOMEN RIGHTS FOR ALL WOMEN.

  67. OMG!!!!!
    EVERYONE must read this!!!!!!!

    It is the delegate voting tally from the Dem. convention. In the first (hotel room?) vote HRC
    was only down by 17 pledged delegates!!!!!

    17 PLEDGED DELEGATES!!!!!!
    ———————————————
    Yup. But remeber what howard dean said: first we will let the voters have then say, then we will let the superdelegates have their say and then we will call the parties together and decide. The rest of it can be explained by the sir walter scott comment: oh what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive. It aint democractic folks–but they led you to believe otherwise.

  68. Hi guys! I’m really very anxious to see Gov Palin’s interview. I’ve found many of her old interviews on YouTube & she does a really good job. About the election- still wondering how Obama plans to win without Ohio and Florida? Both of the states seem to be leaning strongly in the McCain column now. McCain is also doing better in Virginia. Looks like it will be easier for JM to get to 270 than Obama.

  69. I couldn’t watch the floor vote but posters at 44 described HRC as looking ill.

    Now I know why.

    This is beyond obscene. 😥

  70. Well pelosi et al are reaping what they sowed. They wanted the empty suit front and center and they got him.

    And look where it got them? Does anyone have any respect for Pelosi, Dean, Brazille, etc. anymore? Could they tarnish their reputations and souls anymore than this?

  71. basil9 Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
    Why is BC predicting BO will win the presidency?

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D934LQA80&show_article=1
    *****************************************************
    I was looking at MSNBC when they played that video of Bill’s prediction and Andrea Mitchel did think Bill was very passionate or convincing with it.

    I thought Bill was doing it for the party and to help dems downline.

    The problem is Obama and the rest of those idiots, Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Team Obama, Donna Brazile and the rest of those LOSERS, too many to list.

  72. The more I study that chart the sicker I feel.

    57.2% didn’t even VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is unbelievable. BO was coronated on the basis of 1500+ votes.

    Unf***ing believable.

    At least the popular vote was properly tallied. I wish someone would report on this.

  73. I know I’m naive but really, can someone explain how they got away with this?

    I mean, really? What DNC did was criminal, was it not?

    Wbboei,
    I wish you would file a lawsuit against DNC on behalf of the voters.

  74. What is even more disturbing is why wasn’t there at least one decent reporter in the know who could have exposed this at the convention?

  75. basil9 Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
    The more I study that chart the sicker I feel.

    57.2% didn’t even VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    What chart? (I’m being lazy, it probably is further up on this thread…)

  76. Team Obama Disses Girl Scouts (Obama is tight)

    Is the Obama campaign really this cash-strapped? We know his supposedly legendary fundraising operation is hurting. Heck, if the New York Times is willing to admit it’s hit a rough patch things must really be bad, but is it so tight that he can’t spare a few bucks worth of stickers and signs for some little girls?

    Michelle Walsh is a Girl Scout leader in the Chicago suburb of Naperville. Her 2nd grade girls work hard at selling cookies and building crafts. But Walsh sometimes tries to go a step further. She wants to teach the girls about civics, specifically this Presidential race. Walsh decided a way to get the girls really excited about the campaigns would be to give them trinkets from each of the candidates. So she called John McCain’s campaign which immediately sent over a box filled with stickers and signs. Then she called the Obama campaign and it left her scratching her head.

    The Chicago Tribune reports the Obama camp took Walsh’s call and then directed her to the campaign website where she could buy all the trinkets she wanted. Bumper stickers for $3 a piece. Yard signs run $8. That was a bit steep for the budget of a Girl Scout troop.

    Walsh figured there must have been some mistake so she called the Obama campaign office again. She told the woman on the line about John McCain’s generosity and this time she was placed on hold. When the woman came back to the phone she apologized, but said they weren’t going to be able to help. The staffer said the Obama campaign needs every penny it can get. So she directed Walsh to another spot on Obama’s website where she could print out pages that the girls could color. Nice.

  77. Berg has applied for expedited discovery and special master,

    obamacrimes.com/

    BTW, the greenpapers show HRC was down by only 17 pledged
    delegates during the first (hotel rool?) tally at the coronation.

    wbboei,
    talk radio theorizing that the reason Biden made those gaffes yesterdya about HRC being
    more qualified than him is coz he knew about the dump-biden bid.

  78. It only took a momentum shift, some pressure from your opponent in a contest, and a couple real-world crises to watch Obama and his team melt down. The “not ready to lead” claim is gaining clarity. Can you imagine what he would do as a sitting President having high tea with our enemies? His best one-on-one performance to date is with David Letterman. What pray tell makes us think he can handle Putin or Chavez? This guy is looking more and more like an empty suit who is “Not Ready for Prime Time”.

    But you gotta remember, if he isn’t willing to
    help his brother George in Kenya have a better life and a place that’s fit for human habitation instead of that miserable shack, why would we think he’d have his staff give 7 years olds some
    trinkets? This guy is a millionaire and his brother makes $12.00 a year.. By their fruits you will know them.

  79. I feel so bad for Joe. Yeah, I know he’s got a chronic case of foot in mouth disease, but I always liked him. Think he’s basically a really good guy. He doesn’t deserve to be tied to this sinking ship.

  80. Obama running out of cash is going to be hell for everyone, he’ll be like a crackhead who cant get the cash for his next hit, he’ll lie cheat steal to get whatever he wants now.

  81. Hi all…first good luck to HillaryforTexas, Confloyd and everyone in the path of Ike…I hope it passes very quickly and you all are untouched…

    *****************************

    I just caught some quick clips of Bill with BO…did anyone else tune into the body language…BO is standing with his arms crossed with that sneer, looking down look he has…and he seemed to be avoiding eye contact with Bill…which is hard to do…because as we know Bill looks you right in the eye…

    also…BO just cannot help himself…there is Bill saying something to help him and BO still has to interrupt Bill and try to divert the attention to himself…

    We all know and love Bill Clinton…BO is NOT AND NEVER will be even close to Bill Clinton…

    BO is a weasal…sorry to name call…but…

  82. Big Dawg’s gotta do what he’s gotta do. Like HRC, he’s a loyal democrat. I can’t hate on him for that.

    But I’m an Independent. I march to the best of my own drummer.

    No way…no how…nObama.

  83. Maybe Obama could sell his mansion and move into something a little less messiah-like? He could sell his wife’s jewels, maybe send the kids to public school?

    Its for a good cause.

  84. Bill Clinton also said that if Hillary wins Texas, she will be the nomine and Ohio, I think, that she will be the nominee. WRONG!!!!

    The more that I see the Clintons enabling Obama, the sicker I get. They will appear disengenious with their remarks. If he couldn’t sway the needed votes to Hillary’s side, why would they think that he would be valuable to Obama’s side.

    I think that people come to see Bill, just to see Bill Clinton himself. Whatever he do or say about anyone else, I don’t think that the people are really swayed. I think that Bill ran a good campaign because he was stumping for himself and can be himself, but I don’t think that him stumping for someone is that effective. Look what happened with Hillary, Gore, and Kerry. They still lost. Now if Bill was stumping for himself, that is another story!

    Frankly, I think that the Clintons are hurting themselves for doing this and I don’t think that they are doing just so they won’t be blamed for Obama’s lost. They will be blamed regardless of what they do, so it wouldn’t matter to me if I am blamed or not. I certainly won’t pander to the man who dissed me during the primary.

    So people could ask, were they genuine doing the primaries OR or they genuine now? The Republicans may play this up and they would be right.

    I feel that the Clintons don’t have to say anything in Obama’s defense. They could just say nothing. Maybe not bash Obama publicly, but certainly don’t pander to him to risk losing their legacy.

    They should worry about not alienating their base instead of trying to woo others for Obama. It is common talk that Obama didn’t pick Hillary for vp (which I am delighted that she is not) is because he didn’t want to deal with Bill. Their respectiability factor has fallen in my case each time they stump for Obama. Don’t quite view them the same as I didn before. Keep this up and Sarah Palin could be known as a bigger fighter than Hillary. That may be what is attracting some voters now.

    Wish Hillary luck in the senate and possibly Senate Majority Leader, though.

  85. Bwahhahahahahahaha

    Illinois Gov drops Obama in it.

    Don’t criticize Palin’s experience : Illinois’s Dem guv

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/palin_experience_defended_by_i.html

    Blagojevich, who supports favorite son U.S. Sen. Barack Obama for president, today criticized Democrats for belittling the experience of Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain’s running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and took a jab at the work of legislators who run for executive positions.
    “The reality is, governors every day have to make decisions for better or for worse. That’s part of the job. It’s an executive position. And it’s a position that is like what you’re going to do when you’re president. Legislators, they do different things. They debate and they pass their bills back and forth,” he said.

    “But governors make decisions, and I think it’s a tactical mistake for the Democrats to question Gov. Palin’s experience when she’s been a governor of a state,” he said. “I don’t think the size of the state is relevant. It’s the kinds of decisions you have to make as governor.

    Bidens comments, and now this.

    All we need is a photo of him in an oversized helmet sticking his head out of a tank and the fat lady will have officially sung.

    They are openly criticizing him now

  86. # basil9 Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I know I’m naive but really, can someone explain how they got away with this?

    I mean, really? What DNC did was criminal, was it not?

    ————————————

    Fair and free media is essential for helping the voter get accurate information in a democracy. When you have biased media like we did, it is difficult for people to get that accurate information. They got away with it because most people did not know. People who did know like us are protesting it. For wider dissemination you need unbiased media which we don’t have. Everybody (who was not tuned to the primary) I have talked to about the DNC shenanigans has been aghast but I am only one person saying it (as far as they are concerned.) Media is the big culprit here just as they were leading up to the war, going after Gore and so on. They are playing king makers instead of the greater cause they were meant to serve, serving the public.

  87. hmmmmmmm…….

    I saw this comment at NQ.

    What do you all make of this statement Hillary supposedly made in FL while stumping for Obama?

    “Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?” HRC

  88. Idunn Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    S…got a link?

    *********************************************

    Idunn, they were the news clips on TV and the photos over

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=172343

    breibart had some other photos up that showed the aloofness of O but they seem to have taken them down and put up this clip

    I agree, Bill is the twice elected dem Pres – he has to do what he has to do…I just hope, this once, it does not work….

    also, I agree wit you about Joe Biden…I do feel sorry for him…he is in a thankless position…thank God it is not Hillary

  89. there is O now live on Fox talking with mayor bloomberg and again with his arms folded and that look

    arms folded is a protective and distancing position

  90. Florida getting tough

    Enforcing Florida’s ‘No Match, No Vote’ Law Begins Now

    That’ll make it harder for the multiple voters.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259704

    With the court battles solved and the dust settled, Florida has begun to enforce the “No Match, No Vote’ law that was passed in 2006, stayed by injunction in 2007, with the state winning on appeal in 2008. On September 8, 2008, enforcement began.

    The “No Match, No Vote” law requires Floridians to have their identification match up with state or federal databases in order to be able to register to vote.

    The Miami Herald reports that on September 5, 2008, Kurt Browning, Secretary of State, notified the 67 state supervisors of elections, telling them the 2006 law would start being enforced as of September 8, 2008.

    If a Florida voter’s identification does not match the state or federal databases, they will be given a provisional ballot and two days to prove their identity in order for their ballot to count.

    Proponents of the law maintain this will help prevent voter fraud on election day and opponents of the law assert this will disenfranchise voters.

    Floridians wishing to register, under the “No Match, No Vote” law will have to provide their drivers license number or the last four digits of their social security number to election officials, who then match those numbers up with their databases. If no match is found, the person registering will be asked to provide more information.

  91. moononpluto, I am here in SE Florida and Charlie Crist as you know is the popular republican governor here who delivered the primary to mccain…I am sure he will be monitoring things very closely

    btw…I am in Broward county, a dem stronghold, and most of the dems I know are not voting for Obama…maybe it will still go dem, but many are sitting it out or contemplating McCain

  92. I think I’m going to have to sign off of national politics for a couple of years.
    It’s too depressing.
    The only choice is a bad choice in this election.
    I’m trying to figure out whether to go with McCain to emphasize
    to DNC that they need to clean it up.
    Or to just not vote.
    The only shard of hope is knowing 2012 just isn’t that far off.
    I hope this blog will still be here, and we can all get together around 2010 and figure out how to get DNC to drop the caucus system.

  93. Watch the bots heads explode tonight.

    First poll to show McCain with a 1% lead in Michigan.

    Insider Advantage/Poll Position

    McCain 45
    Obama 44

  94. Independent,
    I agree. The Clintons will hurt themselves by stumping for BO.

    pm317,
    But the media didn’t tell 1700+ HRC delegates to not show up for floor vote.
    If the hotel room tally or hard vote as it’s referred to in the chart showed HRC behind by only
    17 pledged delegates it would seem the roll call was illegal.

  95. Bill knows this election is going to be close; his comments on BO winning big were said only because Obama was standing right next to him, lol.

  96. Idunn, they were the news clips on TV and the photos over

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=172343
    ——————–

    I disliked watching that video very much. Princess O is even winking (like Bush) at one of those reporters. BC was like, ya, ya he will win handily… (does not take much to say that, a little white lie). I hate whatever Princess O said and how he said it. Can’t stand to look at him even for a second.

  97. The Clintons have to be seen as supporting BO fully for Hillary to have any shot for the presidency in the future. It’s that simple. They’re Democrats, not free agents.

  98. wbboei Says:
    Neat summary of Brazile’s actions. Your Rove before the beginning of time conspiracy is missing a piece: the GOP moved up FL’s primary in the first place
    ————————————-
    turndown-thanks I will correct it
    =======

    Not to slow the pace of this segment, but the same GOP Governor, Crist, who moved the Dems’ primary later kindly offered to disqualify the Dems from the November ballot as “not being a political party” because of their treatment of the FL delegation.

  99. basil, you’re right about the delegates but these are also people who were threatened, bullied, ridiculed and what not. Now if the media had told that story on their front pages, do we think Princess O would even be standing anywhere today? A fair and unbiased media would have kept Obama and the DNC in check.

  100. dogworld Says:
    I’m trying to figure out whether to go with McCain to emphasize
    to DNC that they need to clean it up.
    Or to just not vote.
    ===============

    The clearest message would be to vote Green (a Black lady I think) or Nader, to show that even liberals aren’t supporting Obama.

    As for reformng the DNC, those of us who have the energy had better get started long before 2010. Like right after Obama loses, or maybe sooner. Admin, show us the way!

  101. pm317…I know just how you feel…I am trying to be civil…I feel exactly the same way…I have to hit mute every time O is on…

  102. September 11, 2008 Diageo/Hotline Tracking Poll: Mind The Baby Gap

    The latest Diageo/Hotline daily tracking poll, released this a.m., shows McCain/Palin leading Obama/Biden 46-44% — a 2% jump from yesterday’s 45-45% tie.

    The GOP ticket has pulled nearly even among women and expanded its lead among men. Obama/Biden now leads women by just 2%, while McCain/Palin leads men by 7%.

    The Dem ticket led women by 5% on 9/9, while the GOP ticket had a comparable advantage with men. Likewise, on 9/7, the parties enjoyed 13% leads with women and men, respectively.

    Looking at party ID, McCain/Palin leads 89-4% among GOPers (up from 88-5% on 9/9) and 45-33% among Inds (down from 47-32% on 9/9); Obama/Biden meanwhile leads 83-12% among Dems (down from 84-9% on 9/9).

  103. Bidens comments, and now this.

    All we need is a photo of him in an oversized helmet sticking his head out of a tank and the fat lady will have officially sung.

    They are openly criticizing him now
    *****************************************************
    Those polls must be worse then what we’re seeing….I wonder how bad is it?

  104. I do not feel sorry for Biden, he should have shown the backbone of those like Rendell who declined, partly, I believe out of deference to Hillary. And how many times has Biden LOST bids on the national level? A big L should be on his forehead.

    Obama, the SNOWMAN. Snowmen always melt when heat is applied.

    Psssst, did you hear? Rumors by Obamanationals have it that Bristol Palin’s baby’s father is Rev. Wright. lol

    TforHIllary: They are PIGS. Hateful pigs. They have become George Bush.
    Hey, wait a minute, Pigs are nice….I just purchased one at Hobby Lobby for half price, a piggy bank, with a sh!t eating grin on its face. It was 50% off. I brought it home and put lipstick on it…..my Palin Pig. A tribute to all the sexism and misogyny. I smile every time I look at it now right here near my computer.

  105. # basil9 Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I know I’m naive but really, can someone explain how they got away with this?

    I mean, really? What DNC did was criminal, was it not?

    IANAL, but the Party can run the internal their workings pretty much as they wish. The exception would be with the 13 States that have laws requiring delegates to vote, on at least the first ballot, for the candidate that they were sent to represent. IMO, California is one of those states and that is why they passed on the initial roll call..If they had voted per state law, Hillary would have lead the early vote count and the Precious would have had his feelings hurt. I suspect state laws were violated but not much can be done about it.

  106. admin

    you left out Barack’s extensive long term friendship with Ayers and Dohrn who bombed the capitol, the pentagon just as al queda did on 9/11

  107. Frankly, I think we need to watch the polls in OH, PA, MI, VA, CO and FL to figure out who’s going to win. That’s where it’s going to be decided.

  108. Response to:
    turndownobama-com Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    dogworld Says:
    I’m trying to figure out whether to go with McCain to emphasize
    to DNC that they need to clean it up.
    Or to just not vote.
    ===============

    The clearest message would be to vote Green (a Black lady I think) or Nader, to show that even liberals aren’t supporting Obama.

    —————————————————-

    The only really effective way to stop nObama is to vote
    McCain/Palin. That way nObama would have to get TWO votes to counteract your one vote, one to become even again and one to get ahead a vote. Green or Nader would only take away a vote for McCain and would not hurt nObama.

  109. dogworld Says:
    I’m trying to figure out whether to go with McCain to emphasize
    to DNC that they need to clean it up.
    Or to just not vote.
    ===============

    Depends on how badly you don’t want an Obama presidency. Both my husband and I (we are staunchly liberal) decided early on (around the time we figured out what was happening in the primary and what an unprepared hack Obama was) that we would cast our votes for McCain. That would be 4 votes Obama has to get from somewhere else as opposed to 2 votes if you didn’t just vote for him.

  110. The clearest message would be to vote Green (a Black lady I think) or Nader, to show that even liberals aren’t supporting Obama.

    That is probably how I will vote..Obama will get blown out in my state….The Green Party candidates are McKinney and Clemente..Two AA women.

  111. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

    did you all catch this? mccain has caught up to O in electoral college – now 217 O – 216 McCain

    McCain has taken the lead with Intrade, favorability, etc…all the trends are going his way…

    this old guy is really coming from behind…with the help of his likeable rebel…

    amazing if this turnaround continues…and just think, about one week ago we were all subjected to that Obama Olympics Extraganza…all that money wasted and now forgotten…

  112. Obama doesn’t stand a chance in hell in my state either, so I could safely use my vote to boost a 3rd party candidate.

    Not sure which way I’ll go, to be honest. But I suspect I’ll vote McCain.

  113. As for reformng the DNC, those of us who have the energy had better get started long before 2010. Like right after Obama loses, or maybe sooner. Admin, show us the way!
    *****************************************************
    For those Democrats who can vote John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi out of office by voting for Ed O’reilly for Senator and Cindy Sheehan for Nancy Pelosi seat is a HUGE start, JMHO.

  114. jonnyb, in the spirit of unity today, we did not want to be too tough on Obama. He’s having enough troubles and we don’t want to add to them. 🙂

  115. SHV, what the unDemocratic “leadership” did was criminal. There is a reason why we hold primaries and that is to test (at minimum) who would be the best candidate in terms of winning. The “leadership” decided to force Hillary out after Iowa and ignore the grassroots and American voters. Now they are paying the price for not being impartial.

  116. pm,
    Aren’t most delegates regular working non-professional politicos? What could almost 1400 of them
    have been threatened with to keep them from voting HRC?
    Then again, having never been a delegate I’m sure I have no idea of the pressure.

    SHV,
    I could never vote Cynthia “it’s-much-ado-about-a-hairdo McKinney!” It’s McPalin for me.

    Carby, what do you mean? Biden in a tank? Is there a link?Bidens comments, and now this.

    All we need is a photo of him in an oversized helmet sticking his head out of a tank and the fat lady will have officially sung.

    They are openly criticizing him now

  117. MSNBC reported that MO was invited but she declined…AMATUERS!!!

    ——————————————————-

    She declined to turn up and honour the murdered people from 9/11. Well if its any clearer she couldnt give a stuff that was it.

    I truly think the woman is a cold bitch, i bet the room drops 20 degrees when she walks in.

  118. Idunn Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    Excuse me…how do you decline something like that?! Too busy getting your nails done or something?

    —————————————————————————————————–

    She had to make sure there was enough arugula and other organic delights in the household, or maybe she had to pickup her kids from school.

  119. # Idunn Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Obama doesn’t stand a chance in hell in my state either, so I could safely use my vote to boost a 3rd party candidate.

    Not sure which way I’ll go, to be honest. But I suspect I’ll vote McCain.
    —————————

    I live in MD and I could safely not vote for McCain. But I don’t think I can relate to all those Democrats who are voting for Obama, feels like these are people who betrayed the true identity of the party. We became unaffiliated on May 31 and strangely that made it easier to dissociate myself from them and the party I no longer recognize. Looking at this election, I have also come to a less harsher view of the Republicans (that is not just to rationalize my choice.) One thing is certain, I was a Democrat for a reason and the DNC and Obama camp took that away and I am in no mood to reward them with my vote for that.

  120. Carby,

    She DECLINED?????? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

    BTW,
    Anyone see the new clip of McCain returning from Hanoi in ’73?
    I’ll try to find the vid.

  121. moononpluto Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    MSNBC reported that MO was invited but she declined…AMATUERS!!!
    ———————–

    So very strange!

  122. admin Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    SHV, what the unDemocratic “leadership” did was criminal.

    It was more than “criminal” it was and is treason to the principles that this Country is supposed to stand for. Was it criminal in the sense that a USA could bring an indictment? I doubt it.

  123. Even animals know not to support Obama. First, the chickens got him into trouble, now, the pigs and fish!

    Great article admin!

  124. SHV, many of the PUMAs I talk to are saying if their stae is safe Red, they are voting 3rd party. If their state is close, they will vote McCain to be safe.

    Re: Big Dawg – listen between the lines to what he said. Bill is not stupid. If he really thought Obama will win, he would have said things like: “Well, elections are always tough, and anything could happen, but I really think he’s going to pull it off and do it.”

    The fact that Bill said something so preposterous as “Oh, yeah, he’s going to practically walk away with this!” is a SIGNAL that he is toeing the party line, not giving his honest assessment. Bill is smarter than that, and he knows WE know he is smarter than that. This is a chess game, and Bill is a master at it.

    Pay attention to what is NOT being said, as much as what is. Pay attention to how “off kilter” and out-of-character many of Bill’s and Hillary’s words are. They are making how they feel OBVIOUS by over-doing the praise.

  125. admin Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    SHV, what the unDemocratic “leadership” did was criminal. There is a reason why we hold primaries and that is to test (at minimum) who would be the best candidate in terms of winning. The “leadership” decided to force Hillary out after Iowa and ignore the grassroots and American voters. Now they are paying the price for not being impartial
    ***************************************************

    yes, admin and why should we ever vote in another dem primary if they do not change this process because they can just keep repeating this nonsense over and over again…it is rigged, plain and simple truth…

    like i have been telling my ‘liberal’ friends, in the final analysis, your vote means NOTHING in a democratic primary…with all the manipulation involved…mine in Florida meant nothing two or three times…

    it is like everything we took pride in being a dem has been destroyed…women’s rights – 24 years later after Gerry F and even winning 18 Million votes…still no woman on the ticket…on and on and on…

    you have to be in real denial not to see how corrupt the party is…

  126. On second thought, this might be a two box tissue moment.
    This is very apropo on this very inauspicious day. Take out the spaces and share with everyone.

    h t t p : / /www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

    WeNeedMcCain.

  127. moon, Don’t fret. MI is up for grabs. And, frankly, considering it’s gone Dem four GEs in a row, BO should be doing better there. Hillary would be.

  128. Oh hows this for a response i just read.

    “MSNBC reported that MO was invited but she declined ”

    She probably had to represent her family at the memorial service for the terrorists.

  129. I guess this was one of those days that Michelle was not proud of her country. She should watch the “Dear Mr Obama” YouTube…..if that does not make her proud of our country and the caliber of men we produce, NOTHING will.

  130. Mystery of MO is solved. From another board: Michelle is at home with her children.

    ———————————

    I don’t care, if you a pres.Cand wife, you should be at the memorial, its unexcusable.

    Yeah right, biggest memorial service vs at home with the kids, yup that one flies.

  131. Did anyone notice this, police officers giving pins to John Mc. and Mrs. McCain at ground zero?

    I watched very carefully , none were offered or given to 0bama including the black officers .

    I know the National FOP supports McCain but that was weird .

  132. Don’t forget: Governor Palin interview excerpts are on tonight on ABC World News. The prime time special with the full interviews will be tomorrow.

  133. Palin interview first quotes

    The first sit-down lasted 30 minutes and included questions about energy independence, foreign affairs and whether Gov. Palin is ready to be Vice President. “Absolutely,” is her response. When asked if she is ready to step in and be president of the United States. Palin answers, “You bet.”

    We’re told Gibson asked for two extra minutes and used it to ask Palin whether she agrees with the “Bush Doctrine.” Among Palin’s responses:

    • “The top priority is to defend the United States of America. I know that John McCain would do that.”

    • “With new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.”

    • “War has got to be a last option.”

    • “If a strike is imminent we have every right to defend our country…and that’s what a McCain/Palin administration would do.”

    • “In order to stop Islamic extremists we must do whatever it takes. We must not blink, Charlie.”

  134. admin,

    i am enjoying your company on the thread, its great to see you out and about, in a playful, happy mood…

    good one:

    “S and pm317 we are trying to adjust our “V” chip to block any images of Obama on our TVs.”

  135. Moon: That was from one of the “enlightened ones,” who wonders, if Palin has the intellectual capacity and curiosity to be a world leader.

    “Michelle Obama was in Chicago with her children. The candidates agreed to suspend campaigning today. She probably gets little-enough time with her children as it is.”

  136. HillaryforTexas Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    SHV, many of the PUMAs I talk to are saying if their stae is safe Red, they are voting 3rd party. If their state is close, they will vote McCain to be safe.

    My thinking on that issue is still evolving. Two months ago, I told the GF that Obama was a POS but at least he is “our” POS. Then it was who is the biggest threat to the country as Pres. and that is Obama. IMO, with Pres McCain. Congress has to stay Dem.

  137. Are there no proper journalists that speak english

    What does Misunderestimating McCain exactly mean. (answers on a postcard)

    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/11/misunderestimating_mccain.html

    Has Barack Obama underestimated John McCain?

    His advisers would certainly say no, that they always assumed the presidential race would be close and hard fought. But it’s not too much to believe that at Obama’s Chicago headquarters and on his campaign plane, the team did not fully appreciate the Republican position.

    It’s fair to say they never anticipated that McCain would roll the dice in the way he did when selecting a vice presidential running mate. Who did? The Obama team’s first reaction was curt and indifferent, an apparent sign of over-confidence inside the operation that was quickly submerged by the more modulated reactions from the candidate himself. But in its dismissive initial response, the Obama campaign was signaling its belief that McCain had taken a foolish risk.

  138. I guess Michelle was trying to prove what a good mother she is and that her kids are her top priority.

    Couldn’t she have bought the kids with her? They aren’t toddlers.

  139. She didnt want to be there, This is an event you do not miss if you want to be first lady, sorry but it smacks of indifference and I’m sure 99% of Americans will feel that way.

  140. Independent: I don’t think, MO is ready for prime time. Maybe, she didn’t want to take the kids out of school. Still seems odd, not to attend such an important event.

  141. ROTFLMAO!
    How dare anyone out there make fun of Barack after all he’s been through?
    He lost his mom.
    He went through a primary.
    He’s got 2 f***ing kids.
    He gave a speech.
    All you people care about is votes and getting into office.
    He’s a human.
    What you don’t realize is Barack is making America cool again.
    All you do is make a bunch of crappy ads about him.
    All you people want is more more more more MORE!!!!!

  142. We’re told Gibson asked for two extra minutes and used it to ask Palin whether she agrees with the “Bush Doctrine.” Among Palin’s responses:

    • “The top priority is to defend the United States of America. I know that John McCain would do that.”

    That answer is a problem and a major reason why Bush is the worst President in US history. She need to take the time to read what the Constitution says are the duties of the President as outlines in the “Oath of office”. And they are “I will faithfully execute the office and preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Trashing the Constitution by using the “false choice” of protecting the country is what will make George W. Bush’s name live in infamy in US history. FDR was faced with much larger threat as were the Presidents during the cold war and they were able to live up to their “Oath of Office”. (Rant over)

  143. wouldn’t it be something, if McCain/Palin won and then halfway through the term, McCain said he was leaving for health reasons or some other thing..

    Palin as president…

    wow I just felt a tingle go up my leg

  144. carbynew Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    basil9 Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
    Why is BC predicting BO will win the presidency?

    ******

    I hope he is wrong.

  145. Veruca Obama tantrum time

    “but but but, you promised me Georgia and Idaho and North Dakota and Florida and Oklahoma and Arkansas, I want them and i want them now”

  146. but but but i thought Bambi said he was going to win Idaho.

    Idaho???? What was he snorting?? He would win Idaho after he won Utah and Wyoming. I used to live in that part of the country. Maybe he confused Idaho with one of the other 57 state, Iowa. perhaps?

  147. if she is, its probably Rev Wrights, he’s been knocking up every available woman within 2 feet of him, I hope Bambi has checked to make sure those kids are his with old Jeremiah around.

  148. September 11th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
    Why is BC predicting BO will win the presidency?

    I think he had his toes crossed when he said it: just like when he said he didn’t get a BJ in the Oval Office.*g* Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, just like McCain hugging “W” after that SOS trashed his family in SC. There are battles and wars and hopefully Hillary and Bill are planning on winning the war for the soul of the democratic Party.

  149. mp,

    i think we posted that video here a week or two ago, and the comments were about how terribly tired hill looks…
    its sad…

  150. NQ has posted more of the Gibson interview..If that segment is representative of the whole interview, she is ripping the guts out of the Obama campaign. I guess “field dressing” Moose gave the practical experience to do that.

  151. Moon,

    I was just being sarcastic about Michelle staying with her kids because she wants to show that she is a good mom, but I did think that maybe she was hinting at Sarah Palin’s parenting.

    Anyway, I definitely agree she should have been there and she definitely could’ve gotten a babysitter.

    I wonder is Sean Hannity will get this info and run with it? 🙂

  152. Interesting the color of roses each candidate laid on the memorial.

    Obama went with pink.
    McCain went with yellow.

    No further speculation from me. 😉

  153. MO didnt go because quite frankly, she didnt want too, end of story.

    The woman hates America and everything it stands for.

  154. No Palin is in Alaska, her son ships out to Iraq today, no idea where Biden is and MO is away baking cakes instead of being in NY.

  155. Biden spoke to First Responders (from another board) and Palin is scheduled to speak to her son’s unit.

    MO did speak at a Baptist Convention yesterday.

  156. So Mo is missing in action. I am not not surprised, since she is not proud of her country. Why should she be there pretending

  157. neetabug – the BO campaign must’ve done polling on MO, and she must’ve tanked…why else are they keeping her away from public appearances.

  158. turndownobama-com Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
    Obama resign!

    Hillary / Biden 2008!
    ———————————————
    Lets start a petition!

  159. What i like about my church is my pastor will only let a candidate speak if there is a domocratic and republican present. If O wanted to speak he could only speak if McCain was there also.

  160. Palin on ABC just now Q&A by Charlie Gibson re: readiness for presidency, foreign policy matters…thought she gave committed and thorough answers to questions

  161. I thought Palin did very well in the first part of the interview. Gibson kept trying to trip her up but she held her ground. I thought he was a little condescending and arrogant.

    Am sure he would never hit Obama with tough questions like that.

  162. I think that MO is probably polling negatively, no matter how some pundits try to compare her to Jackie O. I think that the media tried to portray Hillary as more polarizing than she really was, because if that was the case, she wouldn’t have gotten so many votes.

    I think that I read and heard some years ago maybe before Jackie died or right after that she and Hillary was friendly or friends with each other. Hillary said that she received advice from Jackie about raising kids in the white house and not letting them get spoiled. Seemed that Hillary appreciated Jackie.

    So, I don’t know why they keep comparing Michelle to Jackie. It is a mystery to me.

  163. I thought he was a little condescending and arrogant.

    A little? He was dripping beltway condescension. Who the fuck appointed these nasty asshats the keepers of the temple?

  164. Jackie should have told her daughter Caroline, what a friend really means. I thought Caroline and Hillary were freinds until she turn into a Judas on her.

  165. # independent2008 Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Bill Clinton also said that if Hillary wins Texas, she will be the nominee and Ohio, I think, that she will be the nominee. WRONG!!!!

    Hey genius. Bill had to say this b/c TX was crucial at the time. TX was so crucial, so many of us traveled to help out. It was his way of “encouraging” Dems to come out and vote for Hillary.

    I think that Bill ran a good campaign because he was stumping for himself and can be himself, but I don’t think that him stumping for someone is that effective. Look what happened with Hillary, Gore, and Kerry.

    Don’t lump her with those losers. She got the popular vote and but for FL and MI and the DNC, she would have been our candidate.

    Don’t quite view them the same as I didn before. Keep this up and Sarah Palin could be known as a bigger fighter than Hillary. That may be what is attracting some voters now.

    Really? A woman who has fought 35 years for the underpriviledged versus someone who is an overnight sensation whose only claim to fame is Mayor and Governor of freaking Alaska.

    independent, did you escape from Freeperville Penitentiary?

  166. neetabug – if Jackie were alive today, she would’ve backed Hillary, and so the rest of the family wouldn’t have gone over to BO so easily, possibly out of deference to her.

    I believe Jackie and Hillary were very close.

  167. A little? He was dripping beltway condescension. Who the fuck appointed these nasty asshats the keepers of the temple?

    It all works in her favor. After the years of trashing Hillary, people will be less tolerant of the same sh*t directed at Palin.

  168. from another poster on Riverdaughter:

    “Charlie Gibson was really leaning on her, firing one question after another about very controversial issues, like crossing the border into Pakistan to pursue terrorists (without their permission) if necessary, a nuclear Iran, what if Israel decides to launch a nuclear attack on Iran–would we support that etc. She did her best, but it’s not her strength. She steered it back to energy, and he brought her back to foreign policy, pressing for specific answers to completely hypothetical situations (like the examples listed above). She did ok, but they really need to prep her hard core to be ready for the debate with foreign policy expert Biden. My sister thought she did fine and seemed strong. I wasn’t as convinced.”

  169. Idunn, I suspect there are some GOP who pretend to be former Hillary supporters coming out for McCain. It’s so easy to do why wouldn’t they?

  170. CountTheVotes Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    Jackie may have supported Hillary..but she had moved away from the Kennedy family. Ted was/is in charge of keeping the larger than life JFK myth alive even if Robert got short changed in the process. I suspect that Caroline will take over after Ted dies. A husband/wife Presidency would have severely diminished the Kennedy family’s place in Presidential history.

  171. Idunn Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
    Filbert, can you knock off the insults? It makes me not even want to come in here some days.

    ————————————————————————————————-
    Thanks Idunn,

    Some people just can’t take another’s opinion that’s different. I don’t insult other people’s opinion. I can agree or disagree with them but I don’t insult them at all.

    What I was saying about Bill is that people will vote for Bill because Bill is campaigning for himself and can be himself and he is speaking for himself only. But if he is stumping for someone else who the people don’t /or won’t vote for regardless of how much they like Bill, his stumping for them won’t matter. That’s why I hate seeing him wasting his time with Obama.

    As for Sarah Palin being a bigger fighter, I was referring to this campaign and not being knocked out and maybe she will actually push through. A person has to actually push through instead of just making a dent in my opinion. Just waiting for a woman to do that regardless of who it is!

  172. birdgal Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    The upside it that Obama is running against Palin and maybe the public will find it a little odd that the messiah is not asked the same questions.

  173. husband/wife Presidency would have severely diminished the Kennedy family’s place in Presidential history
    _________________________________________________________________________________________

    They better get use to it, it is going to happen Hillary/2012

  174. Is that so? I can’t take another opinion? Do you realize how many people here I disagree with and yet I come back here day after day?

    What I dislike is when you insult Hillary. I don’t come here to Big Pink for people to tell me that Hillary is less of a fighter than someone like Palin. What I don’t like is you lumping Hillary with the other losers and saying that the Clintons are disingenuous.

  175. shv says at 7:08;

    from another poster, which goes along with what you said:

    “Palin did OK, but fif is right she needs more prep. I can’t remember seeing Barack questioned like this. They always accept his first answer and never drill for more details.”

    BO always gets off easier.

  176. Maybe they except his first answer because he is so long winded. Like that battery he keeps going and going and going talking about nothing

  177. Asshole Charlie Gibson misquoted her. He said the EXACT QUOTE was “Our national leaders are on a mission from God.”

    Bullshit. The exact quote is “Let us pray our national leaders are on a mission from God.” In other words, we don’t know their intentions, but let us hope and pray that God is guiding this mess. Gibson chopped off that qualifier at the start of her statement.

    BIG DIFFERENCE there, asshat Charlie. HUGE difference. This is why she responded with the Abraham Lincoln quote. She wasn’t praying because she assumes God is on our side, she was praying that we are on HIS.

  178. This is infuriating. Gibson deliberately tried to twist her words to make it sound like “GOD told us to go attack Iraq.” She never said that.

  179. I just wanna know how Charlie knows what God’s plan is.

    Was it something like this?

    Dalton: [answering phone] Welton Academy, hello. Yes he is, hold on. Mr. Nolan, it’s for you. It’s God. He says we should have girls at Welton.

  180. WELL – if Gibson did that, won’t the Republicans dig up the exact quote, and say the press was even trying to undermine her.

    i think gibson was being ultra hostile because he knows he’ll have 10,000 emails from the bots by tomorrow.

  181. Palin is kicking ass because she has her party behind her and it’s a Democrat’s ass. HIllary had to tiptoe around with her hands tied because her party was agaisnt her and she couldn’t really attack another Democrat.

  182. The bots are freaking out over her Georgia/Russia answer, but I liked it.

    When Gibson said if under the NATO treaty, the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: “Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.

    She is absolutely correct. Those ARE the terms of NATO. It is a legally binding treaty that requires us to treat an attack on ANY member as if it were an attack on us. So unless you think we should withdraw from NATO (which may be the position of some bots), she is 100% correct. That is not war-mongering, that is reality.

  183. I’m getting this feeling that the Democratic leadership are just lame…objectively, I don’t see that they’re getting behind BO in a way that’s productive – ie. Carol Fowler’s gaffe, Biden’s screw ups…idiots.

    All they know how to do is stand around and be passive and passive aggressive, ie. Howard Dean, Pelosi, and Brazile.

  184. CountTheVotes Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    WELL – if Gibson did that, won’t the Republicans dig up the exact quote, and say the press was even trying to undermine her.

    Exactly!!! The ‘bot and their enablers are losing it. McCain will run a exact quote vs Gibson “gotcha” and they will rack up more votes for Gov palin. Having the dkos and kewl kids foaming at the mouth that Gov palin is an hysterical, fundie wacko, is just digging the messiah into a deeper hole, IMO.

  185. SHV – today I met someone who is a lawyer at a good firm, and after a long professional conversation, we got on the subject of politics, and she immediatley went into this: Palin is a lunatic, etc. etc…

    I have to say – after living in a liberal paradigm for as long as I can remember, I’m wondering if Rush Limbaugh is right – the kind of bias and cherry picking that we saw the media doing against Hillary is the same they have been doing against Republicans, against the Bush administration – no doubt there are times when coverage of the WH is liberally slanted and they do not get fair coverag.

  186. HillaryforTexas Says: at 5:00 pm
    SHV, many of the PUMAs I talk to are saying if their stae is safe Red, they are voting 3rd party. If their state is close, they will vote McCain to be safe.
    ===============

    Yup. This also has the advantage of postponing the decision till the last minute, intead of angsting and arguing about it now.

    If safe, third party sends a clearer message. I like Green, a Black lady candidate, anti-war — to show that some of us liberals are rejecting Obama too.

  187. Report of the Va, McCain/Palin, rally yesterday by WaPo reporter Marc Fischer…This is really bad news for Bambi….any hope for a win in Va is based on large % win in Northern Va.

    Marc Fisher: Obviously a rally like yesterday’s draws mostly hard-core supporters. But I was surprised by how many people I spoke to — especially women — who had been anywhere from lukewarm to actively antagonistic to McCain before the Palin pick. And there were many independents and Democrats (funny how so many people continue to call themselves Democrats and when I ask them when they last voted for a Dem for president, they have to reach back to Carter or McGovern) as well, including quite a few people who had been surprised to find themselves leaning to or supporting Hillary Clinton and now are fascinated by Palin.

    Separately, I spent a chunk of time in some western Fairfax neighborhoods talking to random voters, quite a few of whom were in the process of making the Hillary to Palin switch, and that informed my thinking about the whole larger Palin phenomenon.

    But if you had been with me at the rally, you would have taken a step back as you heard women who created their own businesses and who very much believe that women get a raw deal in this society arguing that Palin’s story is their story, and that Palin’s trumpeting of her ability to balance family and work is every bit as important a feminist statement as Hillary Clinton’s talk about cracking up the glass ceiling.

    But how can such women be for someone who is anti-abortion and a social conservative and so on? In most of my conversations with the Clinton-to-Palin switchers, their conclusion — quite reasonably given the last three decades of American history — is that abortion is largely a dead issue, that with an enormous percentage of Americans in support of at least some form of abortion rights, and with 20 years of Reagan/Bush/Bush presidencies essentially just paying lip service to their fundamentalist Christian base on the issue of abortion, the right seems fixed. Maybe they’re wrong, but that’s their reading of the situation. And they are, as I’ve said here several times, driven far more by personality and character than by issues.

    I ran into very few reflexive McCain-Palin supporters at yesterday’s rally — of course, there are dyed in the wool Republicans who were there because that’s their party and they believe in its principles or have spent their lives working for its candidates. But far more frequently, my conversations were with people who were taking this choice very seriously, and who really dislike Bush and the war, and who had surprised themselves by being very much attracted to either Hillary Clinton or Obama back last spring, but who have been moving over to the R side, either because they fear that only the Republicans will protect us from terrorism — an issue on which the Democrats still don’t make an emotionally convincing case — or because they see something that connects in Sarah Palin.

    These comments by Fisher seem like very bad news for Obama. And it is typical of what my wife and I, both of whom gave money to Clinton, feel about McCain and Palin now. We’re edging toward them, and we’re definitely not voting for Obama.

  188. I wish Caroline Kennedy wasn’t female and wasn’t the only survivor of her family.

    Because I otherwise would have said in my most condescending voice: “OK, honey, the Dems took your advice twice — they got Obama and then got Biden. How do you feel that’s working? Did you think this all the way through?”

  189. l will voting for McCain no matter how red the state is. You never know until the votes come in how people are voting. Some will tell the polsters they are voting for a candidate, yet in the voting booth they vote for a different candidate. I want to make sure O does not get in the WH

  190. Two stay homes equals one vote for McCain. It’s all good.

    Sometimes ii’s easier to convince two people to stay home than to convince one person to vote for McCain. Third party also counts half as much but sends a clearer message.

  191. ShortTermer Says:
    I do not feel sorry for Biden, he should have shown the backbone of those like Rendell who declined, partly, I believe out of deference to Hillary.
    ===========

    If they’d all declined HIllary would have been stuck with the job, which she didn’t want and might have killed her career!

    Maybe Biden took it as a FAVOR to HIllary.

  192. moononpluto Says:
    Team Obama Disses Girl Scouts (Obama is tight)
    Is the Obama campaign really this cash-strapped? We know his supposedly legendary fundraising operation is hurting. Heck, if the New York Times is willing to admit it’s hit a rough patch things must really be bad, but is it so tight that he can’t spare a few bucks worth of stickers and signs for some little girls
    ===========

    Good grief. Forward it to NARAL or whatever women’s group endorsed Obama over HIllary because they thought he’d have more money! (If the story checks out.)

  193. # CountTheVotes Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    SHV – today I met someone who is a lawyer at a good firm, and after a long professional conversation, we got on the subject of politics, and she immediatley went into this: Palin is a lunatic, etc. etc…
    I have to say – after living in a liberal paradigm for as long as I can remember, I’m wondering if Rush Limbaugh is right – the kind of bias and cherry picking that we saw the media doing against Hillary is the same they have been doing against Republicans, against the Bush administration – no doubt there are times when coverage of the WH is liberally slanted and they do not get fair coverag.”

    I have been thinking a lot about the same general subject. I am beginning think that it is based on personality type or psychopathology rather than political philosophy. My politics are more left than most people here but problems and issues can be discussed and ideas exchanged. It reminds me of political discussions Dem v Repub. before Reagan. After the Goldwater loss and the Reagan era the Republican party was purged of any opinion that was not ultra-right. The same is being attempted now in the Dem party.. The psychology of the right and left wackos is the same. Was Hitler really any different than Stalin even though at opposite polls for means of production. Was the Taliban any different than the Cultural Revolution in China? Children still informed on their parents and teachers in both societies. Are the dkos bots any different than the Young

    Republicanswho iform on their teachers or mobbed the vote counters in Florida? Whatever therr politics these types of behaviors need to be stopped.

  194. I figured the bots would freak out on Palin’s correct answer about Georgia/Russia.

    I figured the bots would freak over the Georgia/Russia answer.

    A lot of these young voters have no sense of history – zero, zip, nada. History began for them at the Clinton impeachment trial, and ends with the current Bush regime.

    One of the biggest dangers to this country, in my opinion, is to allow our justified horror at Bush’s ill-advised empire-driven warmongering to turn to a stubborn refusal to face the realities of genuine dangers.

    I see a lot of knee-jerk reactionary “Let’s all be nice and the world will be nice to us” crap coming from the new left that is frankly disturbing. I see a lot of assumed and internalized guilt for the actions of this country in the past 8 years that is leading many to cringe away from anything even approaching a sane and robust foreign policy.

    They want to expiate the sin of slavery by electing a dangerously unqualified black man. And they want to expiate Bush’s sins by becoming all touchy-feely on what remains a very dangerous world stage. It is all part and parcel of a breathtakingly simplistic, spotty, and naive grasp of history.

  195. admin and posters all,

    I have not gotten even one letter to the editor in support of my PUMA editorial, “Why I’ve left the Democrats”:

    press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080909/OPINION01/809090324/1019

    If anyone could write a letter in support of my article, another group of letters to the editor will run on Saturday, after the five that ran in the Iowa City Press-Citizen today, and they are ALL NEGATIVE against PUMAs. My editor said so. Not one in support. I know that some of you were kind enough to support me on line, and I really appreciate it. Would anyone be willing to write a letter in support of PUMAs in general and possibly my article in particular to:

    pcopinion@press-citizen.com???

  196. HRC as senate majority leader would be great, but i also think that a high level cabinet position in a McCain presidency would be even better. the only draw-back being the possibility of restricting 2012 plans. i guess i just want to see her as visible and productive as possible. she just has so much to offer.

  197. Anyone have a link handy for the rev wright diatribe given the sunday after 9/11. Wanna send that along with mesmell oblablablah’s conspicuos abscence to a few fence sitters. the never been proud of my country link would also be welcomed. I’d look on you tube but having a problem getting on. No problem viewing from a link posted. Most probably due to controls I put on for a preteen.
    thankyou.

  198. One of the biggest dangers to this country, in my opinion, is to allow our justified horror at Bush’s ill-advised empire-driven warmongering to turn to a stubborn refusal to face the realities of genuine dangers.

    That is a huge problem. Bush has used the Islamic threat to trash the Constitution, loot the US treasury, and cripple the military deterrence of the US. The fundamental weakness of the US economy and the coming recession are the biggest threat at the moment. Even another successful terrorist attack is not a significant threat to nation compared to a severe recession or depression. An emboldened and resurgent Russian Empire undeterred by our weakened military is probably the next biggest..the list goes on and on…Islamic terrorism is way down the list.

  199. SHV Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Report of the Va, McCain/Palin, rally yesterday by WaPo reporter Marc Fischer…This is really bad news for Bambi….any hope for a win in Va is based on large % win in Northern Va.

    ******
    Welcome to the Reagan Democrats…

    The idiots at BO’s campaign and the DNC should’ve sent Marc Fischer out to get a feel for people instead of assuming you could threaten women back in line with the Roe v. Wade card.

  200. Hillary4Texas
    It dawned on me for the first time today that the 18 to 22 crowd was 11 to 15 on 9/11. To them that ill-fated day must seem like ancient history. I was born in 67 and the vietnam war feels that way. I lived in Manhatten from 92 until 2007 and the abscence of mo fills me with rage. She wants to be first lady and cannot make the sacrifice to acknowledge the pain of those who lost so much. What a slap in the face.

  201. Well well well, didnt take them long to dump on Obama downticket.

    Dems downticket abandon Obama.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c2f69ce-8031-11dd-99a9-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

    Democratic jitters about the US presidential race have spread to Capitol Hill, where some members of Congress are worried that Barack Obama’s faltering campaign could hurt their chances of re-election.

    Party leaders have been hoping to strengthen Democratic control of the House and Senate in November, but John McCain’s jump in the polls has stoked fears of a Republican resurgence.

    A Democratic fundraiser for Congressional candidates said some planned to distance themselves from Mr Obama and not attack Mr McCain.

    “If people are voting for McCain it could help Republicans all the way down the ticket, even in a year when the Democrats should be sweeping all before us,” said the fundraiser, a former Hillary Clinton supporter.

    “There is a growing sense of doom among Democrats I have spoken to…. People are going crazy, telling the campaign ‘you’ve got to do something’.”

    Concern was greatest among first-term representatives who won seats in traditionally Republican districts in the landslide of 2006. “Several of them face a real fight to hold on to those seats,” the fundraiser said.

    Tony Podesta, a senior Democratic lobbyist, said members of Congress were “a little nervous” after Mr McCain shook up the race with his choice of Sarah Palin as running mate and intensified attacks on Mr Obama.

    “Republicans have been on the offensive for the past two weeks…;You don’t win elections on the defensive.”

    The campaign manager for a first-term Democratic congressman from a blue-collar district in the north-east rejected suggestions that Mr Obama had become a liability. He said his candidate would reach out to Republicans and avoid attacks on Mr McCain.

  202. Hey everyone, hope you are all doing well, still am awed with Palin, it seems the Obama can’t crack the Palin ceiling because is ego is being shattered, whoo hoo!

  203. moononpluto Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Well well well, didnt take them long to dump on Obama downticket.

    The panic will only increase. The down ticket folks thought they would get huge financial help from the Obama money machine…well that has turned into a financial black hole. The Obama people are starting to panic with high burn rates and faltering donations..the down ticket Dems will get zip!!!

    The purge begins on guy Fawkes day!!!

  204. Well whichever health company comes up with an “Obama Patch” for withdrawal, they will certainly rake in the money. The obamabots are going to need big-time intervention when all is said and done.

  205. Well not that anyone was actually responding for my requests for links to wright but I figured out how to get rid of the parental sensor. Should ya ever need to know with vista its actually very simple. Just go to internet options and follow the logical steps.

  206. Thankyou all. Sorry if my last post sounded testy. I was annoyed that I watched my brothers kid( 12 yrs old) for three days and he saw fit to censor my computer.

  207. Watching this lot go cold turkey is going to be a joy to watch.

    I’d probably prefer to give them the real Jim Jones Kool aid for crimes against decency and stupidity and crimes against Hillary.

  208. Hi, everyone I made it home before the huge traffic jam coming out of Houston. I want to catch up as I have been working again.

    What do you all think was talked about for 2 hours with Bill and Obama?? My opinion is how in the hell to get rid of Biden and hire Hillary?? What’s yours??

  209. The forum at Columbia University has thus far been interesting. Obama just dumbly said small town mayors actually do things and that legislators “just yak”.

    McCain did very well.

  210. either that or 2 hours of Obama on his knees going

    “please, please, i’m sorry, i promise i’ll sack Biden, i’ll pay Hillary’s debt, please just help me out, i’m in deep shit, please, i’ll do anything.

    and then probably offered Bill a BJ in the back of limo with some cocaine like he normally does with men.

    Bill at this point politely refused.

  211. Henry, I am not surprised that MO was not there at Ground Zero, because she believes like the REv. does that America had it coming to her!! She would not stoop to honoring the victims that she thought deserved to die because we killed all those other in Japan, South Africa and etc. She is a shameful person!

  212. Moon, still as hilarious as usual. I think they were plotting to rid Biden from the ticket. Discussing Bill’s role if they did it and asked Hillary. I just think MO doesn’t want her little young impressionistic hubby anywhere near the worldly Bill!!

  213. The best thing McCain did was to pick Sarah Palin as his vp…because she has gotten under his skin.

    He is still whinning about her slam on his Community Organizer vs small town mayor…that crap might work with Northeast Elites but Obama started it and Palin ended it.

    I like how Columbia got quiet when Obama also pressed Military Service on the elites.

  214. Ok, major fight brewing, Californian Democrats cutting their own throats in Nov Election here. State refuses, CA residents want it now.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26666266

    New Poll Shows Majority Of State Residents Support Drilling

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. – California has become the main front in a war over offshore oil drilling.

    Congress may soon vote to allow drilling for oil at at least 50 miles from America’s coastline – but not in the Golden State, if leaders have anything to say about it.

    The California Assembly has taken a firm stand against the drilling, saying that the move would protect the state’s beaches.

    Many drivers who cram into the state’s packed freeways are singing a different tune. Some told NBC Bay Area they want lower prices now – and if drilling is what it takes — then so be it.

  215. Michelle has been tucked away because every time she appears in public Bambi’s poll numbers go down.

    The sight of her scowling and sneering at ground zero would have tanked him for sure.

  216. Hillary for Texas: Don’t you know, Mo is taking care of her children, because it is the first or second week of school? Who cares?

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Did BO really say, “Obama’s view on the job role of Mayors in America:

    “Mayors have to fill pothols, trim the trees, and make sure the trash is collected.”

  217. birdgal, at least he’s crediting the mayors for actually doing something as opposed to….a community organizer which more fufills themselves.

  218. News saying that Galveston is looking at a tsunami. They used that word. Texas is going to be hit BAD by Ike, the way it is looking.

  219. Jan, San Antonio is almost 200 miles inland, so I’m safe. But we will get a lot of the refugees if this is bad. I hope those people heeded the governor’s warnings. He was on TV practically pleading with folks to evacuate. Kept saying he was not exaggerating, they needed to get OUT.

    I am praying that it is not as bad as it is looking, and we’ll all be happily relieved when a lot of rain and minor property damage is it.

  220. HillaryforTexas Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    I hope that there is an enduring community memory of the 1900 storm.

  221. Watching the Forum on FOX and i was very impressed with McCain and his answers to the questions that were asked.He was clear and precise and showed a real interest in the people of his country and stayed away from politics being injected into the program.Obama was the usual all about me and his campaign.He is one real self posessed AO.His claim to fame and experience is always the “Community Organizer” to help his people.Around here that is called “Ward Heeler” job. Passing out ‘Street Money ” to help finance the votes for the Chicago Political Mob.He was bought and paid for by Tony Rezko and that corrupt machine that controls just about everthing in IL.I have yet to see or hear any of his so called friends,admirers,sponsers,and mentors come forward and speak for him and give any kind of support for his candidacy.How can this fraud be considered for POTUS? Shame on America for allowing this criminal action by the DNC to fix the election to favor Obama and cheat us all out of being able to elect the most outstanding woman in the political history of our country.HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.Shame Shame Shame.I am depressed,angry and hurt by what is taking place in this very dangerous period in our country.Barnum never had any idea how many suckers can be born in a rigged election such as we have before us.

    By ABM90

  222. ya know the hilbuzz a to z noobama bit. I think it is a fantastic idea. Believe someone here suggested the idea months ago. I said way back when during the primaries that it would make a great door hanger. Use only those things that can be verified and place a link under each one. If anyone has the knowhow it might might make sense to set up a website which is nothing more than the links under each statement. In swing states it could prove very effective, by reaching a lot of people in a very short time in the days before the election. Easy to find out what areas went hillary and plaster them with no obama. Waste no time having long conversations with people who agree with you and even less trying to detox a kool aid drinker.
    My thoughts/idea we all have the same goal so if anyone ones to run with it please do. I lack the skills to follow through.

  223. admin
    as always thankyou for a wonderful post and for responding to my request. I always read what you so freely share and I am grateful. I read today but that was hours ago and I had forgotten. And yes A to Z no obama was born here. Another person elsewhere may have independently arrived at the same thing but it def had its beginnings here. As I remember people repeatedly threw in a different letter. Guess I just want to say that obviously what happens here does not stay here and that is a great thing.

  224. moon,

    no one i know here wants drilling, i mean no one…’
    our beaches are pristine, we have some of the most beautiful coastline in the world… drilling… ahhh NO…

  225. Hillary4Texas
    Thankyou so much.
    I apologize for my post regarding noone responding. Lots of disparate emotions running through my head on this anniversary and I meant no offense. Just a bunch of shit I don’t know where to place. My bad.

  226. skmf12
    but what % of the populace owns property or even can afford to visit the beach? Drilling off shore might lower taxes across the board. Not everyone in cali is affluent.

  227. ok, on H & C, Lanny Davis already twisting and distorting her answers to Bush Doctrine and NATO, Georgia, and Russia. Shame on Lanny! (and of course, Alan.) They did not give any time to Steele for a rebuttal.

  228. IMHO
    Alan Colmes has become the biggest joke in politics for his feeble attempts to defend the indefensible. I know his job is to play left wing but he has in my view become pathetic. I actually find him pitiful. Once upon a time in a land called democracy I believed he had something worth listenning to,.

  229. LOL! Steele wanted to know where all this intense scrutiny was of whether Obama was ready to be president, 19 months ago. Colmes tries to interrupt, he;s been vetted, blah blah blah…

    Steele looks disgusted, says “Come on Alan–you know that’s not true. I’ve seen GERBILS that have received more scrutiny!”

  230. Drilling off shore might lower taxes across the board. Not everyone in cali is affluent.
    pm317 Says:

    The problem is the pumped oil is the property of the International Oil companies..the oil is fungible..it not US oil. The US gov’t has also been in the habit of giving the oil companies sweet deals on taxes. etc. The amount of production will have little if any effect on prices. One advantage of off shore production may be the environmental impact. The risk and impact of oil spills from off shore is said to be much less then the impact of tanker disasters.

  231. ““Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?”

    That’s kind of anti-JFK, isn’t it? I’d make it, ‘who is for us?’ ‘Us’ being America.

    Hil should pull back on that, it’s the exact opposite of JFK’s ‘Ask not …’

  232. admin
    gave the forum two seconds, hopefully I am wrong but an Ivy league University comparing the service of a a veteran to a community organizer turned me off immediately.
    Pardon me for screaming.
    COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY WAS THE FIRST AND ONLY IVY LEAGUE INSTITUTION TO JUMP ON THE EXTENSION OF EMMINENT DOMAIN TO COOPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD. READ DISPLACE THOUSANDS TO SUPPLANT WITH ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING.

    ONE MORE THING HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY ORGANISER WHO DID NOTHING FOR HIS CONSTITUENTS ACTUALLY SIT NEXT TO A MAN WHO SACRIFICED HIS LIFE IN A FORUM SUCH AS THIS.
    I AM BEYOND DISGUST.

  233. moononpluto – that article you linked from the Financial Times about Downticket Dems jumping ship on BO, take a look at this comment:

    # Greg Says:
    September 11, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    I just wanted to share this with you guys…
    I got this in an email, it made me chuckle.

    START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

    1. Open a new file in your computer.

    2. Name it ‘Barack Obama’.

    3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.

    4. Empty the Recycle Bin.

    5. Your PC will ask you: ‘Do you really want to get rid of ‘Barack Obama?’

    6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’

    7. Feel better?

    GOOD! – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi!

  234. moononpluto Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
    either that or 2 hours of Obama on his knees going

    “please, please, i’m sorry, i promise i’ll sack Biden, i’ll pay Hillary’s debt, please just help me out, i’m in deep shit, please, i’ll do anything.

    and slapped him silly…
    *******************************************

    just heard O is going to be on SNL for this weeks opener…i wish they would do a piece with Bill giving a dose of reality to O on SNL….that would be so funny…

  235. S – re: SNL – i guess BO’s strategists decided that people don’t “connect with him” – that’s he’s not warm enough or funny…

    after all this time campaigning – Ya think?

  236. Lots of disparate emotions running through my head on this anniversary …

    You’re not alone, Henry. I just sat in the tub and bawled my eyes out for an hour solid.

    Mission now? Get shitfaced.

  237. Since the media and Team Obama is going after Gov. Palin because she included the phrase God’s plan in her prayer for protection of our Men and Women in the military, I will be listing quotes from U.S. presidents that use God in their speeches.

    President Abraham Lincoln issued a historic day of fasting and prayer on March 30, 1863 and he began by saying, “Whereas, the Senate of the United States devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation: And whereas, it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history: that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord…”

  238. S
    Wishful thinking. Bet we’ll see lots of attacks on Palin. The bots went apeshit after Tina Fey essentially called big media to task. Terry Morgan was then vile in his response the following week. SNL airs on NBC and they have been beyond repugnant. Let us not forget that the buyers of this election think it has been already bought and paid for. Our votes have been discounted by the DNC as they were for sale. The GE is not so easy so hold on. I heard Tina Fey has refused to lampoon Palin.

  239. yeah, I hear you CTV… he doesn’t connect with us…that’s for sure…

    Moon…get working on your skit and email it into them… : )

  240. Thomas Jefferson (3rd President of the United States and author of the Declaration of Independence) “No men shall…suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively.

  241. carby: Apparently, Gibson took her statement out of context or distorted it. They are such bottom dwelling scum suckers. I can’t stand any of them

  242. henry…maybe tina fey will take up palin’s side…link it to hill and hit another one out for women…

    or a skit where palin demolishes obama…even though i know it will never happen i keep saying i would love to see palin debate obama…that would be interesting…take him moose hunting or something…

  243. alcina Says: HRC as senate majority leader would be great, but i also think that a high level cabinet position in a McCain presidency would be even better. the only draw-back being the possibility of restricting 2012 plans.
    ==========

    Imo Senate Maj Leader would help Hillary to run for Pres in 2012. If part of her handicap this year was threats to her Senate standing (from Pelosi and Reid in early June), being Sen Maj Leader herself should give her some protection from that!

    I don’t see how SML could hamper her in 2012 — but a McCain cabinet position sure could!

    A McCain cabinet position would last only as long as McCain’s presidency (or shorter is some strong disagreement arose) and might be an awkward position to challenge McCain from. SML would be a secure place for her to accumulate power, whoever is president.

  244. # SHV Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Drilling off shore might lower taxes across the board. Not everyone in cali is affluent.
    pm317 Says:

    The problem is the pumped oil is the property of the International Oil companies..the oil is fungible..it not US oil. The US gov’t has also been in the habit of giving the oil companies sweet deals on taxes. etc. The amount of production will have little if any effect on prices. One advantage of off shore production may be the environmental impact. The risk and impact of oil spills from off shore is said to be much less then the impact of tanker disasters.
    —————————–

    I didn’t say this!

  245. mariaconz Says:
    turndownobama-com,
    Did you subscribe me to the PUMA Rapid Responders?

    ===================

    Done now! If Google wants you to jump through any hoops, let me know.

  246. birdgal Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
    carby: Apparently, Gibson took her statement out of context or distorted it. They are such bottom dwelling scum suckers. I can’t stand any of them
    *****************************************************
    I’m already sick of them…I’m a person of faith and is so tired of this witch hunt against people of faith. If the media and Team Obama keep this up he will start losing his own “faith base” voters that the Democrats need in order to win.

    But I will continue my God quotes from U.S presidents because I want people to see how ignorant and silly this line of criticism is from the Democrats and MSM, especially today…after seeing military chaplains giving benedictions at the 911 memorial at the Pentagon.

  247. turndownobama-com Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    ****
    All the more reason why McCain might offer Clinton a cabinet position – to neutralize her. if Republicans win, they’re smart enough to know that she will be the one to watch – that the Dems will unite behind her if they F up.

  248. I kinda wish they had tag team debates. Where John McCain could say I can answer that question but I would if you don’t mind prefer to defer to sarah. just to watch how many times bambi would pass. and then joe could just say i though he said V.O> not vp.
    Expect SNL to be total bambi. Tina fey is the obvious choice to play Palin but I hope she just says no.

  249. pm317 Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Sorry, I screwed up formatting your quote…For me at least, an edit fucntion would be good.

  250. what bugs me is the subtext of the ageism in BO’s campaign and the media…

    they are putting a lot of emphasis on Palin too because they think McCain will kick the bucket 2 days after he assumes office…

    I am watching McCain on the Forum right now – he is sharp, he seems to have the energy of a 40 year old; he’s lively, he is quick-witted…

    If McCain is going to kick anything – it will be BO’s ass in the debates. McCain’s campaign needs to bring him out of the shadow of Palin – every time I see McCain, I am more impressed with him. They need to counteract these ageist assumptions coming from the media and the Dems echo chamber.

  251. “A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.”

    “It is necessary for the welfare of the nation that men’s lives be based on the principles of the Bible. No man, educated or uneducated, can afford to be ignorant of the Bible.”
    – Theodore Roosevelt – (1858-1919) 26th President of the United States

  252. Maria,

    I’ve posted your appeal for “Letters to the Ed” to PumaResponders and to blog.pumapac.org

    You might post it along with your op-ed as a diary at clintondems.com

    I’m locked out of camille424’s bitterpoliticz, forgot to register when she made it private. Does anyone know how I can get in? [whines plaintatively]

  253. Since Obama love to quote Ronald Reagan here’s a couple of quotes:

    “Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience…without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure…If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under.”

    “Government should uphold–and not undermine–those institutions which are custodians of the very values upon which civilization is founded: religion, education and, above all, family.”
    – Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States

  254. Oh yeah, here’s a quote from Ted Kennedy Brother:

    “The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.”
    – John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) 35th President of the United States

  255. CTV
    may have. the only times i have watched the show in the last few years was when it was hyped. Bambi I will take a pass. The show is scripted and the writers have contracts so even if they wanted to call him an ass they would be very limited. tina fey is no longer headwriter and has her own show owned by lorne micheals so she might be hesitant to go for the jugular. I still say it was sad that the writers strike happenned during the early primary season before waffles created his swafety zone. imagine the show following the TUCC revelations.

  256. henry – re: writers strike – I think it could have gone two ways – thankfully, Tina Fey was involved with the CNN “Obama’s pillow” skit…I think NY would’ve rallied around Clinton and that would’ve helped…

    however, all the other shows might’ve been lampooning Hillary and the endless recycling of sexist jokes…

    I love Tina Fey – a reminder that her character Liz Lemon said: there’s an 80% chance I will tell my friends I’m voting for Obama, but secretly vote for John McCain.

    that quote was over a year ago. she is quite sharp, Tina Fey.

  257. Well I must sleep.
    My most sincere apologies to anyone if I was harsh. My rage about 9/11 has not subsided and the wife of a presedential candidate not showing the respect to the innocents and the heroes sickens me. I will now follow Idunn’s lead and have a good cry in a hot bath before I throw my tv through the window.

  258. hey all – speaking of bitterpolitcz, this was posted:

    Quinniapiac Poll:

    McCain leads Obama 50% to 43% in Florida. A full 25% of Clinton supporters here are now supporting McCain. This is the biggest lead that McCain has had in Florida in quite some time.

  259. I wonder if this happened because Sen. Kerry might lose the election?

    FBI probing if agent helped his brother Edward O’Reilly’s campaign
    By Associated Press
    Wednesday, September 10, 2008

    SPRINGFIELD – The FBI is conducting an internal investigation into whether one of its agents inappropriately helped his brother in his bid to unseat Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.

    The Springfield Republican newspaper reported Tuesday night that agent Michael O’Reilly, whose brother Edward O’Reilly is Kerry’s first Democratic primary challenger, has joined his brother at fundraisers, was a delegate to the state party convention in June and served on the Democratic town committee in Longmeadow, where he lives.

    Michael O’Reilly formerly headed the Springfield FBI office, where he led a local corruption investigation that led to federal criminal convictions against dozens of public officials and politically connected defendants.

    David M. Rhieu, chief division counsel for the FBI’s New Haven, Conn., office, where O’Reilly now works, told the Republican that O’Reilly told supervisors he wasn’t aware his activities may have violated a law limiting political activity by federal employees. He also said he had resigned from the Longmeadow committee. Rhieu said the matter has been referred the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility.

    “(I) will discuss these issues with Special Agent O’Reilly to ensure that he is allowed to support his brother’s candidacy in a way that will avoid any appearance of impropriety,” Rhieu said in a written statement to the newspaper. The FBI did not immediately return a call for comment to The Associated Press after business hours Tuesday night.

    The newspaper said O’Reilly declined to say if he researched the Hatch Act, or sought an advisory opinion before stumping for his brother.

    “I’m not going to get into specifics … I work in Connecticut now. I no longer investigate people in Western Massachusetts,” he told the Republican.

    Michael O’Reilly’s home telephone is unlisted. His brother’s campaign did not immediately comment Tuesday night. A Kerry spokeswoman declined comment

    news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view/2008_09_10_FBI_probing_if_agent_helped_his_brother_Edward_O_Reilly_s_campaign/srvc=home&position=recent

  260. CTV…you know the ironic thing is mccain’s family is the one with longevity…his mother is sharp as anything and is 96…really great article about his mother roberta? in i think style mag…

    anyway it is O who has does not seem to have longevity with his parents…

    O better watch it…his karma isn’t too good these days…

  261. Okay before I retire I would love to hear a valid excuse for a woman who aspires to be first lady not attending a memorial service for the victims and heroes. In my small mind I am unable to rationalize that. Even if you thought America was a bad mean place how could you considering your position not respect the children of whose parents perished undeservedly.
    Was her abscence even acknowledged by Big Media?

  262. I bet MO chickened out of the NY 9/11 memorial when she heard that BO was having lunch with Bill.
    She just did not wannt to meet him under any conditions!!!!!

  263. Idunn
    I am really angry. I watched this morning although I knew it would be painful but I felt that I owed it to so many to sit through it. As I listenned to the children remembering parents they will only know as mere shadows and challanging the rest of us to remember them with deeds I fell apart. Lets say godforbid he were to win, what does that forbode. She couldn’t make an appearance but these children can step before America and the world and not ask for vengeance but for a humanity.

  264. Obama Losing Traction Among Younger Voters
    by Matt Towery

    townhall.com/Columnists/MattTowery/2008/09/12/obama_losing_traction_among_younger_voters

  265. mp
    bloomberg that i saw. Watched the foxcast and they were very dignified it was about the families. they did show a real time video of the day but cautionned viewers in advance.

  266. Hi everyone

    Admin, thanks for the post. I was late to work this morning because I could no more draw myself away from the coverage of the events of September 11 than I could on the day they happened.

    And, I am watching again now.

    I was there two weeks after the attacks with Red Cross. I worked in Patterson NJ and the pile was STILL smoldering.

    It is what made me want to go into Federal Service. And I did.

  267. No excuse, henry. None. It was an incredibly insensitive thing for an aspiring first lady to do – especially with no explanation, no statement, nothing.

    That Michelle is one cold piece of work.

  268. has anyone ever asked bambi how he feels about emminent domain. I’d love to know how a community organizer feels about Columbia University essentially claiming the property of private citizens to better the community resulting in exhorbitant rent increases and displaced families.

  269. Now, for all my friends in Texas _ STAY SAFE.

    I lived in Galveston for over a year in a house that was on the National register. It had survived the storm of 1900 and one night we had a terrible storm. I sat and read the book “Isaac’s Storm” and was spellbound. I realized that the words I was reading and the place where I was and the conditions outside were the same.

    I stayed up and read all night. Terrified.

    Galveston floods badly in heavy rain, and the Bay goes virtually into Houston. Houston is “like” New Orleans, in that it is built in a bowl of sorts – a swamp. Flooding in rainstorms was very heavy and I drove to work one morning and actually had my Ford Explorer liftred up by water.

    It was awful.

    EVERYONE BE SAFE and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.

    I may end up there again.

  270. i live in the houston area. unde the gun of a major natl disaster. im exhuasted and highly concerned. we have our hurricane kit as always for 3 days of supplies etc… im concerned about days without power-i do ave some medicalissues etc… hoping it will shift a bit more east. it ould be a help. as someone who almsot went into meteorology and reads meteor dta etc its very alarming. right now its winds are growing 110. it looks muh better organized and is suddenly strengthing many believe. 200 miles wide of tropical and hurricane force winds. should it hit galveston or just south expect a natl crissi to emerge. the hou ship chanel-one of the top ports in the world, the oil refinaries who could be inundated with a 20 ft surge etc… prayers are needed for millions of people tonight who face a great challenge. so if u dont se me here for several days u will know why-no power etc… landfall expected at night. remember ts been 25 yrs since the last major hurricane hit here-alicia. 2/3 of oflks here have never lived through a hurricane etc… prayers

  271. T4H

    Florida has Reciprocal Agreements with Texas and I am on the State Emergency Response Team. If this storm does what it looks like it will, I may be coming for a visit.

    STAY SAFE!

    Where are you in Houston?

  272. hillary4texas
    i pray that the pumas make that a prowl to every news station. My own little bit I’m gonna hit up the police and fire stations with the info. i had great success with the nyfd senate endorsement during the primaries. Cops and fireman are well respected in thier communities. Especially blue collar communities which tend to stick with the democrats. Let em know that she was invited to a memorial and did not attend. Can’t wait. In many ways 9/11 will always be remembered as much for the heroism exhibited as much as the tragedy. She dissed the men in blue who entered a building knowing they might not come out. I believe that even if you despise America and its polotics you must respect the choice the first responders made. Please let her no where near the white house.

  273. FROM PAULA ABELES

    Why I’m (Finally) Supporting Sarah Palin by Paulie Abeles

    Since John McCain announced Sara Palin as his running mate, like many of you I suspect, I’ve been constantly asked: “What do you think of Sarah Palin?”
    The struggle that I’ve been going through in trying to answer that question honestly, is that all the things I find compelling about her:
    that she’s attractive and charismatic, has a great personal narrative, is eloquent, a ‘breath of fresh air’–yes, even “tokenism” (for lack of a better word)
    were also true of Obama. And, I, like many Clinton supporters, decided those were not sufficiently strong reasons to support him.

    So, in one sense, I would feel like a hypocrite supporting Palin for any of those reasons.

    Although I think she is more experienced than Obama—(She, has, after all, directed a budget of over $10 billion, supervised 24,000 employees and negotiated with foreign governments -Russia and China over fishing rights); she is lightly credentialed in terms of the possible field of socially progressive Republican women McCain could have chosen (Snowe, Whitman, Hutchinson etc.).
    And, although I respect her integrity, there is virtually no social issue on which I share common ground with Sarah Palin. Unlike John McCain, who has never been ideological; Sarah Palin is, and unabashedly so.

    However as I’ve struggled with these issues since her selection, I keep coming back to two points.
    Of all the basic rights—human rights– that Democrats have stood for—there are two that seem to me to be the most important:
    the right to vote (and have that vote counted fairly) and the right to free speech.

    The right to vote, it seems to me, is not simply about exercising your franchise—but actually having that exercise tied to a result. Whether we look narrowly at Florida and Michigan, or broadly at caucus and convention intimidation and fraud—what becomes clear—crystal clear—is that the delegates—both in number and composition– did not accurately represent the ‘will of the people’ that voted for them. And, as a tribute to their organizational skill, if not their integrity, the Obama campaign did everything in their power to ensure that that would be the case.
    Just as importantly, throughout the nomination process, the Obama campaign did everything possible to curtail the free speech of those who opposed him. Whether it was as simple as harassing supporters at the local metro, or as brazen as intimidating delegates at state conventions and threatening members of the Black Caucus—opposition to Barack Obama put people at risk—to be taunted, insulted and harassed in a way I’ve never before experienced in a political campaign.

    So, I come down to this. Do we believe that the Obama campaign curtailed the freedom of speech of those who opposed him? Do we believe that Clinton’s supporter’s votes were not counted fairly? If we answer ‘yes; as I have answered, than it seems to me that the fact that we disagree with Sarah Palin on reproductive choice, or creationism, or even protecting the Polar Bears—is the human rights equivalent of small potatoes. There are two basic rights that make us a democracy; two essential rights that keep us free. If I have my voice—and my vote—I can work for all the other issues. Without them, I can do nothing.

    So, this fall I will vote for John McCain and, yes, Sarah Palin. I will vote as a protest, and as a promise. A protest at what took place; a promise that it will never happen again. I will vote as a democrat.

    Paulie Abeles is co-founder of Real Democrats (www.RealDemocratsUSA.org)

  274. I would never have thought 2 weeks ago that the election would take such a turn. Come on people, admit it. Despite by grumblings and reservations, it felt as though Obama was going to cruise through this election.

    Palin has really turn McCain’s ship around.

  275. HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY ORGANISER WHO DID NOTHING FOR HIS CONSTITUENTS ACTUALLY SIT NEXT TO A MAN WHO SACRIFICED HIS LIFE IN A FORUM SUCH AS THIS
    =============

    Maybe he’s one of the fallen heroes some of whom Obama saw in the audience in Area 51.

  276. SHV Says:
    Drilling off shore might lower taxes across the board.
    ….
    The problem is the pumped oil is the property of the International Oil companies..the oil is fungible..it not US oil. The US gov’t has also been in the habit of giving the oil companies sweet deals on taxes
    ===============

    Did Palin have the same kind of situation to deal with when she negotiated with the oil companies in Alaska?

  277. Okay, I went back and looked at the interview that Gibson did with Obama. This was his hard hitting question on Obama’s experience, said oh-so-soothingly:

    “If people have a reservation about you, it is that you’re young, you’re inexperienced, and you’re very new to the national stage…” [politely waits while Obama talks at length]

    No follow up. No pressing. Okay. covered that, let’s move on.

    Contrast that with how he approached Palin’s inexperience.

    “Can you look the country in the eye, and say that I have the experience, and I have the ability, to be not just VP but perhaps President of the United States of America?”

    So she answers.

    Charlie presses: So when McCain asked you, you didn’t HESITATE?

    No, Charlie, I didn’t… I told him if I could serve this country I would…

    [Charlie frowns, and makes jabbing motions with his thumb and forefinger together] “And you didn’t SAY to yourself, am I experienced enough, am I ready?”

    I didn’t hesitate, I didn’t..

    [Charlie interrupts] Doesn’t that take some HUBRIS?

    I rest my case. The woman suddenly has the bar jacked up 5 times higher than the man, and she is RUNNING FOR THE LOWER POSITION!

    Sarah Palin could get caught screwing goats tomorrow, and I would still vote for her. This shit has got to STOP. NOW. THIS year.

  278. # S Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    CTV…you know the ironic thing is mccain’s family is the one with longevity…his mother is sharp as anything and is 96…really great article about his mother roberta? in i think style mag…

    anyway it is O who has does not seem to have longevity with his parents…

    O better watch it…his karma isn’t too good these days…

    ******
    S – you are completely right. His mother Roberta is sharp as a tack, she does not seem or act 96. In this primary and general election, women are invisible – wanna know about sexism? apparently, only male journalists can answer that questions – wanna know how women across the country feel – well, only male journalists know and can write about it…who are they kidding.

    meanwhile, the other constituency being insulted every day are those who are older – they are picking up on the fact that the media makes it seem like McCain is too old to hold office, when he is as sharp as his mom. there are millions of seniors who are getting more and more pissed – and none of the media is picking up on this. they are invisible too. When Hillary did that ad called “Invisible” – it resonated with me on so many levels and no doubt with many others. She got it. She always did.

    here’s a great quote from Simone Weil – just the first half of it:

    Someone who does not see a pane of glass does not know that he does not see it. Someone who, being placed differently, does see it, does not know the other does not see it.

  279. skmf12 Says:
    moon,
    no one i know here wants drilling, i mean no one…’
    our beaches are pristine, we have some of the most beautiful coastline in the world… drilling… ahhh NO
    ===================

    I agree that environmental damage is the most importan thing. Supreme Courts come and go, but extinction is forever.

    However, drilling seems to be a lost cause anyway, unfortunately. So we may as well have the otehr benefits of McCain/Palin. Including some EFFECTIVE work on alternate energy — BO would just channel everything to his donors, Exelon and the corngrowers etc.
    McCain has reallly looked into all this (mentored by HIllary) and knows stuff that will really help.

  280. birdgal Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 1:31 am
    I am also locked out of bitterpolitcz. I tried to lurk today, but couldn’t get in. Help.
    =================

    Email me and I”ll email you the instructions, Camille just sent them to me.
    tdo@turndownobama.com

  281. H4T,

    I agree with you. The longer the inquisition lasted the angrier I got with Charlie Gibson. Total dissing of her accomplishments and ass kissing Obama bullshit. I’m still saying what vetting did Obama get?

    I felt I was in high school getting an unannounced quiz from the teacher I hate.

    I thought she did good and I thought Charlie Gibson was rude and cut her off before she could finish her thought….it wasn’t a conversation, it was if I don’t like your answer then you are wrong.

    Obama never been anywhere but he had that lousy photo op world tour with all the help the media and the press corp allowed.

    He didn’t engage her at all…..Sarah Palin is really pulling off the scab and showing the ugly hypocrisy in our country regarding class and sexism.

    It has been an eye opening revelation on how women are perceive in politics. What so ironic is that the Republican party has the record in promoting and developing women leaders.

    We have a lot of work to do in the Democratic? Taliban Party.

  282. Let me be clear, Gov. Sarah Palin held her own and did not show fear. She answered the questions put forth from Charlie Gibson but what I did not like was cutting off her answers and his comments about being a small town mayor and being an outsider.

    It was that set of questions about accepting McCain’s call to be his vp and that HUBRIS comment.

  283. Palin-backed wilderness road passes Senate panel

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A remote Alaska road supported by Gov. Sarah Palin cleared a Senate panel Thursday, angering environmentalists who say it is unnecessary.

    The road would run through a federal wildlife refuge, linking the fishing village of King Cove, population 800, to an all-weather airport 25 miles north in Cold Bay. The road could cost as much as $30 million, though federal approval would not include any earmarks to pay for it.

    Environmentalists have compared the project to Alaska’s infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” a $400 million federally funded project that would have connected an island with 50 residents to the mainland. Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, initially supported the bridge but later killed it.

    The bill approved by the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee Thursday sets up a land swap. The federal government would allow the single-lane gravel road to be built over 206 acres of the 315,000-acre Izembek National Wildlife Refuge, which is located on the tip of the Alaskan peninsula. In exchange, the state would give about 62,000 acres of land to the federal government that would be added to Izembek, and the Alaska Peninsula Wildlife Refuge.

    King Cove has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a lobbyist, public relations and trips to Washington in support of the bill. Local officials argue that the road is needed to get residents emergency medical care. King Cove is only reachable by air and water and is frequently buffeted by storms.

    Palin wrote a letter in February 2007 to Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, saying “The exchange will provide a long needed safe, dependable, and economic access for residents.”

    Mayor Ernest Weiss, in an e-mail sent to constituents before he boarded a flight back to Alaska from Washington on Thursday, said the bill’s passage was “one huge step towards a road.”

    “There are still hurdles to cross, but this is a VERY exciting day for all of us,” the e-mail read.

    Environmentalists argue that the proposal is not necessary. In 1998, Congress approved $37.5 million to pay for a hovercraft and improvements to the town’s health clinic.

    “Their solution… would harm an internationally important wildlife area,” said Evan Hirsche, president of the National Wildlife Refuge Association. Hundreds of thousands of brants, small sea geese, stop at the refuge during the fall and spring migrations.

    http://www.rep-am.com/news/elections/365589.txt
    *****************************************************
    This is getting ridiculous, people need help and ideology is standing in the way of saving lives.

  284. Media’s anti-GOP bias is painfully clear to all

    Published: Friday, September 12, 2008

    It seems there is no act that the mainstream media won’t stoop to when attacking Republicans. Case in point: The editorial cartoon published Sept. 3 exploiting the pregnancy of Sarah Palin’s minor daughter to push the liberal agenda on sex education.
    It seems Democrats are allowed to keep their family’s problems private. Al Gore’s son’s substance-abuse issues in the 2000 election cycle were rightly squelched, keeping his family’s heartache out of the public eye. But not so with the family of Sarah Palin.

    Sit back and watch. We will surely see a full tabloid-style investigation of Palin’s every act from her youth to today by a mainstream press so in the tank for Barack Obama that it has not done even a cursory probing of the Democratic nominee. Shame on The Press and its like-minded brethren.

    DAVE HUNSBERGER

    Mays Landing

    http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/147/story/255531.html

  285. Carbynew – i just watched some more of the interview tonight on Night Line, and the edits were jarring – it’s almost like the editor of the piece was only selecting sound bites…they didn’t allow her to free-flow like Obama is allowed to.

    really – they should do a back to back comparison of the kid gloves Obama was treated in his interviews, vs. the gotcha press against Palin.

  286. King Cove has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a lobbyist, public relations and trips to Washington in support of the bill. Local officials argue that the road is needed to get residents emergency medical care. King Cove is only reachable by air and water and is frequently buffeted by storms.
    ——————————————–
    In addition King Cove has a one of the largest canneries in Alaska, several thousand fishermen pass through there every year, it has a major school, it is part wind tunnel that stetches to Siberia, I have been in winds there in excess of 135 knots, you cannot fly under those conditions and if you have sick or injured people you are flat cut off from civilization. It is a point of embarcation to other villages like Belokosiki, Sanak, Sand Point etc. If you get the full story out Palins actions look reasonable. I happen to know because I spent five (5) summers in King Cove (1970-4) and these bambi detectives do not know what they are talking about. The environmentalists have an axe to grind. They opposed the pipleline too.

  287. Thanks admin. 🙂 Man, they’re really putting the boots to him. BTW, has anyone seen Biden?lol

    Gov. Palin did “okay”. But she seemed far too programmed, yet unprepared, at times. Yeah, Gibson was harsh and unfair, but NOTHING like Russert was towards HRC – not even close. I assumed, given the media’s hostility towards her since being announced, she would’ve brought her A game. It wasn’t quite there.

    Palin’s strongest moments were the answers about her faith (quoting Lincoln), and standing her ground on drilling in ANWR – despite McCain’s opposition.

    Anyway, let’s see how she does in the rematch on Friday.

  288. One quick rant;

    Anyone see this incomparable ****bag BO standing next to Babe Ruth yesterday and all he could think to say was,
    “We’re putting him to work” ?!!!

    To say he is utterly unworthy would be the understatement of all time.

    Bill Clinton, very long ago, forgot more about politics than Obama will ever know.

  289. Let me be clear, Gov. Sarah Palin held her own and did not show fear. She answered the questions put forth from Charlie Gibson but what I did not like was cutting off her answers and his comments about being a small town mayor and being an outsider.
    ——————————————
    small town mayor then
    governor of largest state now
    exective experience
    too many insiders now
    disappointed in CG
    needs to go on Larry King

  290. I wonder if “The Obama” showed Bill the respect he has earned? What I mean is I can see Obama entering the room reaching out his hand and addressing him as Bill instead of Mr. President.

  291. Blue Democrat Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 4:54 am

    One quick rant;

    Anyone see this incomparable ****bag BO standing next to Babe Ruth yesterday and all he could think to say was,
    “We’re putting him to work” ?!!!

    To say he is utterly unworthy would be the understatement of all time.

    Bill Clinton, very long ago, forgot more about politics than Obama will ever know.

    —————————

    Yeah did you see the body language between the two? Begala can say whatever he wants, he knows President Clinton will NEVER have love for that loser. He can spot a phony a mile away.

  292. Obama Losing Traction Among Younger Voters
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    I forgot to remember to forget: never trust anyone over 30.

  293. ugh. B-HOle in NH today. i hope no one shows up at his rally’s. on the funny side, one of the local r-wing radio hosts, michael graham, has been collecting lipstick donations from his listeners the last couple days to deliver to precious during his visit.

    fortunately, McCain will be in loudon sunday for the NASCAR race to balance things out.

  294. I rest my case. The woman suddenly has the bar jacked up 5 times higher than the man, and she is RUNNING FOR THE LOWER POSITION!
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    Paul V: if you are around, is there anyway we can do a split screen video on u-tube comparing how Gibson handled bambi on the experience question vs how he handled sara. Then a frame comparing her ciricumlum vitae on executive experience to his. Finally, a question: sexism in the media: you have seen the evidence–you decide.

  295. Okay before I retire I would love to hear a valid excuse for a woman who aspires to be first lady not attending a memorial service for the victims and heroes.
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    henry-can’t give you a valid excuse, but I can sure give you a simple minded answer. She was never proud of her country until bwaaaaaaaaaak ran for president.

  296. It is vitally important for the GOP to pull out the heavy artillary against bambi NOW not later. They are letting the other side go at Palin and what they need to do is get after bambi. The best defense is a good offense. Somebody needs to go after Charlie too if he was tougher on her. The video idea might work.

  297. Yeah did you see the body language between the two? Begala can say whatever he wants, he knows President Clinton will NEVER have love for that loser. He can spot a phony a mile away
    ——————————————–
    Its a charade on all sides and the only one who does not know it is the hollow faced malignant dwarf on nbc.

  298. from Charles Krauthammer:

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306022214779117

    … Palin is not just a problem for Obama. She is also a symptom of what ails him. Before Palin, Obama was the ultimate celebrity candidate. For no presidential nominee in living memory had the gap between adulation and achievement been so great.

    Which is why McCain’s Paris Hilton ads struck such a nerve. Obama’s meteoric rise was based not on issues — there was not a dime’s worth of difference between him and Hillary on issues — but on narrative, on eloquence, on charisma.

    The unease at the Denver convention, the feeling of buyer’s remorse, was the Democrats’ realization that the arc of Obama’s celebrity had peaked and had now entered a period of its steepest decline. That Palin could so instantly steal the celebrity spotlight is a reflection of that decline.

    It was inevitable. Obama had managed to stay aloft for four full years. But no one can levitate forever.

    – “Obama’s Stock Was Topping Even Pre-Palin,” Investor’s Business Daily, September 11, 2008

  299. We’re putting him to work” ?!!!
    ———————————————
    That is the last thing in the world he needs to be saying. Makes it look like they own wjc and if that is true (which it is not) then no one will believe him when he praises bambi.

    Bambi has no sense of the moment or what to say. He is one gaff after another. His stupidity is off the richer scale. I think the problem he has with wjc just got worse.

  300. http://www.allaroundphilly.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20117917&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=6

    Two Delaware residents are giving new meaning to the term “pushing” Obama, according to criminal drug charges filed Thursday. Fifty-two bags of heroin in bags stamped both with letters spelling out OBAMA and an image in the likeness of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama were confiscated following a routine car stop on Interstate 95 in Upper Chichester, according to Pennsylvania State Police

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    Must have been delivering Bambi’s daily order or is this the hopium they are spreading or what they are buying votes with these days.

  301. Sarah Palin Dolls.

    HeroBuilders.com has made three action figures of the Alaska governor and vice presidential candidate.

    The figures include the Sarah Palin business figure, complete with glasses, a suit and her hair pulled back in a bun. The Sarah Palin hero action figure looks like something from the movie “The Matrix,” with a long black coat opened to show a gun holster on the thigh.

    But it is the Sarah Palin School Girl that is raising eyebrows. In the risqué doll, she dons a red bra and a short skirt.

    Kathleen Angco-Vieweg, an assistant professor of sociology at American International College in Springfield, Mass., denounced the dolls as sexist.

    “If [a woman is] pretty, the only power they have is to turn on a man instead of using their brains and intellect,” Angco-Vieweg said. “She is the governor of Alaska, so she obviously has the brains to run those laws and governance.”

    Who the hell thought a Sarah Palin School Girl doll would be a good idea.

  302. I saw on the news that Optical stores are having a hard time keeping “Palin’s” glasses in stock.
    I do not recall Obama starting a fad, no wonder he is pissed off at all the attention she is getting.

  303. Good morning, moonpluto.

    This one’s for you.

    Apparently McCain says he would offer BO a post in his cabinet, that of “SERVICE CZAR>
    👿

    blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/09/12/john_mccain_offers_barack_obama_a_cabinet_post

  304. Whoa Breaking : Rassmussen Washington Obama 49% McCain 47% within MOE Washington in Play

    Washington is the latest state to show a strong western surge for John McCain since he added Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to the Republican ticket.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Washington finds Barack Obama still ahead, but barely. It’s Obama 49%, McCain 47%. A month ago, Obama was up by twelve percentage points. Recent polls have shown McCain gains in Montana, New Mexico and North Dakota.

    Among Democrats, Obama now attracts 83% of the vote, down six points from last month. However, the big change comes among unaffiliated voters who now favor McCain by a 48% to 43% margin. In August, before the two parties held their conventions, Obama led by twelve among voters not affiliated with either major political party (see demographic crosstabs).

  305. this is stunning. Obama is going to have to spend masses of dough defending Washington. I bet this is to do with the washington Gov corruption

  306. If Wash is falling into play, so will Oregon and minnesota and wisc. and michigan. Bambi is going to need lots of cash to defend these states and with Ohio and Penn and florida. Whole heap of trouble.

  307. So I guess they weren’t spinning when they promised a 50-state strategy.

    They just didn’t tell us it actually meant defending all the blue states.

    LMAO…

  308. The good thing about this, Bambi now has to spend masses of cash that would otherwise be ployed into battleground states.

  309. c-span just reported Obama is abandoning his 50 state plan and focusing on the key states.

    we just need to know where is obama buying nothing.

    Its all falling apart.

  310. Well bloody hell its all falling apart. Bambi’s blowing it.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/110263/Battle-Congress-Suddenly-Looks-Competitive.aspx

    Gallup:Battle for Congress Suddenly Looks Competitive (GOP “could regain control of U.S. House …”)

    PRINCETON, NJ — A potential shift in fortunes for the Republicans in Congress is seen in the latest USA Today/Gallup survey, with the Democrats now leading the Republicans by just 3 percentage points, 48% to 45%, in voters’ “generic ballot” preferences for Congress. This is down from consistent double-digit Democratic leads seen on this measure over the past year.

    The positive impact of the GOP convention on polling indicators of Republican strength is further seen in the operation of Gallup’s “likely voter” model in this survey. Republicans, who are now much more enthused about the 2008 election than they were prior to the convention, show heightened interest in voting, and thus outscore Democrats in apparent likelihood to vote in November. As a result, Republican candidates now lead Democratic candidates among likely voters by 5 percentage points, 50% to 45%.

    If these numbers are sustained through Election Day — a big if — Republicans could be expected to regain control of the U.S. House of Representatives.

  311. Myself would like to see both houses pretty much evenly divided so Mccain and Palin can not really get anything accomplished leaving the door wide open for Hillary in 2012.

  312. Yeah that 50-state plan was bs from the beginning. It was put in place as a way to cheat Hillary. Dean did this with his 50-state way to use voter intimidation in the caucas’s.
    I am so happy the jerks are getting what they deserve. I still would like to know if Bill is being forced to campaign for the little jerk.

  313. Maybe Bill thinks the best way to finish Obama off is from the inside.

    Keep your friends close but your enemies even closer.

  314. Well Obama has lost any chance he ever had (if he had any to begin with) of cutting into the Senior Citizen vote with his new ad mocking McCain as computer illiterate. In effect saying if you can not use a computer you are stupid. Not going to play well in FL.

  315. confloyd, I like the 50 state strategy for downticket. I do think the Dem party should invest in party infrastructure and getting good Dems into Congressional and Senate seats, etc in Red States. That’s doable, and a good plan for the distant future, if done methodically and slowly.

    But to apply a “50-state strategy” to the presidential run was a STUPID idea.

  316. I just wonder what Obama talked to Bill about. Funny, when he had to talk to his grandma about serious stuff (birth certificate) he did not take MO with him either.
    It’s pretty fishy she did not attend the 9-11 memorial ceremony with the other wife. Hillary was there, was Bill???

  317. Wisconsin tightening up, Obama’s in trouble.

    Obama 46
    McCain 43

    Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain 46% to 43% in the survey taken Friday through Sunday by Strategic Vision, a firm that has polled regularly in the state in recent years.

    The new poll shows little change in the race overall since before the conventions and McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. The same firm polled in August, and Obama’s lead then (47% to 42%) was slightly larger than it is now. But the change is within the poll’s margin error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

    One piece of good news for McCain is how close he is running to Obama, despite an electorate that tilts toward the Democrats. Democrats made up 34% of those polled, Republicans 27% and independents 39%.

    Another is that Palin draws the most positive ratings of any of the four politicians on the presidential ballot. In the new poll, 55% had a favorable opinion of her, while 29% had an unfavorable opinion. Asked about Joe Biden, Obama’s running mate, 43% of those surveyed had a favorable opinion and 33% had an unfavorable opinion.

    Obama (52% favorable, 37% unfavorable) and McCain (52% favorable and 39% unfavorable) scored about equally on this measure.

    McCain enjoyed a modest edge in the poll on the leading issue in the campaign – the economy – with 48% saying he is best able to handle the economy, and 41% saying Obama.

    McCain enjoyed a narrow edge on the Iraq war.

    Wisconsin, the closest state four years ago, is a top target for both campaigns. While Obama enjoyed a lead in the state of 10 or more points in most June and July polls, the race narrowed in August before the conventions. It is neck and neck in most national surveys. National polls suggest that both candidates got a bounce from their conventions, but McCain’s boost was bigger.

    In the new Wisconsin survey, 23% approved of President Bush’s performance, and 16% approved of the job Congress is doing. But Wisconsin’s two senators had positive ratings. Asked about Sen. Russ Feingold’s performance, 58% approved and 33% disapproved; asked about Sen. Herb Kohl, 52% approved and 37% disapproved.

    Gov. Jim Doyle’s ratings were similar: 53% approved, while 35% disapproved.

    Strategic Vision surveyed 800 likely voters by telephone. The firm also released a Michigan poll showing Obama leading McCain 45% to 44%. Both Wisconsin and Michigan were carried by Democrat John Kerry in 2004.

  318. WOW!
    Here are the titles

    – Liberal Policies
    – Semper Fidelis: BO on the Surge
    – Hillary on BO
    – Higher Taxes: Bo the most liberal senator
    – Wrong Values: BO’s ties to Palestinians and Reverend Wright
    – Illegal Immigration
    – Not our Values: BO mocks Christina Values
    – Patriotism Problems

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