Obama’s Pigs

Well, we warned them. Obama is a loser. If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas. If you go with a loser you are a loser. The Disco Democrats are losers.

Remember the many times we wrote “Superdelegates Beware!”? We warned the Superdelegates to Beware, that Obama will destroy the Democratic Party. We wrote then, Obama supporters will face electoral defeat and disaster. They will bring their electoral defeat and disaster to Democrats nationwide.

We wrote in Barack Obama – Party Pooper: Obama at the top of the ticket will force all Democrats to denounce Obama for Rezko, Wright, Bitterness. It will be wholesale slaughter at the ballot box in November in a year when Democrats expected to win.

In Barack Obama Destroys the Democratic Party, Part II we wrote: Superdelegates beware. Obama will be vetted before November and he will be destroyed along with the Democratic Party and down ballot candidates. Obama will turn sweet victory into bitter defeat and Republicans will destroy the Democratic Party by linking it to Obama. Obama must be rejected if the Party is to be saved.

The Democratic Party decided to commit suicide and now instead of massive nationwide victories, NOvember looms as an historic watershed defeat. The Disco Democrats will be destroyed. Our tears will be from laughter.

We are now witnessing the systematic downballot destruction of Democratic candidates. The convention bounce has helped not only McCain but also attitudes toward Republican congressional candidates and the GOP in general.

In Oklahoma knuckle-dragger Republican Senator James Inhofe is tying the Democrat to Barack Obama. Barack Obama is losing Oklahoma by 33% according to the latest polls.

In North Carolina, the latest polls show Obama trails by 20%. Republican Elizabeth Dole running for the Senate is no longer behind her opponent. Dole leads by 8. A Rising GOP Tide Floats All NC Boats.

In Alaska, indicted lowlife and incumbent Republican Senator Ted Stevens went from losing by double digits to a within the margin-of-error, behind by 3%.

Even big Democratic states like New Jersey are sinking beneath the weight of the baggage that is Obama. The Florida orange is sour for Obama too.

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And just wait for the polls that come out after Obama’s latest mud slinging ploys.

The first attack Palin smears failed because Governor Palin gave such an electrifying speech. In that ploy the Chicago mud thugs of the Obama campaign proved they are still as dirty as ever. In the same way that Obama’s thugs attacked Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton with anonymous memoranda they are now trying the same tricks against Governor Sarah Palin – comparing Governor Palin with 1972’s Governor Eagleton who underwent psychiatric care:

Barack Obama has forbidden his campaign from referencing Gov. Sarah Palin’s family and has said he’d fire any staffer who violates the rule. But plenty, it seems, its fair game.

In memos, e-mails and phone calls this week, Obama campaign officials have urged surrogates and allies to mention Republicans who are “nervous” about the Palin pick and to link those worries to George McGovern’s aborted vice presidential pick of Thomas Eagleton in 1972, according to three Democratic surrogates.

That year, McGovern rescinded the pick after learning that Eagleton had been treated for depression. [snip]

One surrogate said he had been urged to bring up the example of Eagleton in order to seed the idea that McCain might consider dropping him from the ticket.

Another Ploy: During the Democratic primaries Obama’s Disco Democrats yelped “dog whistle” or “racism” when Obama was criticized. Obama’s Disco Democrats are still playing the same game.

“I think the Republican Party is too smart to call Barack Obama ‘black’ in a sense that it would be a negative. But you can take something about his life, which I noticed they did at the Republican Convention – a ‘community organizer.’ They kept saying it, they kept laughing,” he said. [snip]

Paterson sees the repeated use of the words “community organizer” as Republican code for “black“.

“I think where there are overtones is when there are uses of language that are designed to inhibit other people’s progress with a subtle reference to their race,” he said.

But the McCain/Palin campaign quickly fired back in a statement, saying: “It is disappointing that Governor Paterson would launch accusations of racism. … Governor Palin’s remarks about Barack Obama’s work as a community organizer was in response to the Obama campaign’s belittling of her executive experience.”

Obama’s part time running mate and Senate re-election candidate, also Joe Biden tried to crowbar some ugliness onto an important issue while attacking Governor Palin regarding her familiy:

“I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both the joy, because there’s joy to it as well, the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect. Well guess what folks? If you care about it, why don’t you support stem cell research?” Biden received a thunderous ovation when he made the remark at a town hall style meeting this morning in Columbia. Read More

Obama, yelps “racism” or “bigotry” if any one mentions his middle name. Bill Clinton was accused of being a “racist!” for calling Obama’s Iraq history a “fairy tale”. Bill Clinton was called a “racist!” for pointing out the fact that Reverend Jesse Jackson had also won the South Carolina primary. Geraldine Ferraro? “Racist!” When Republicans poked fun at Obama’s claims to being a “community organizer” Big Media and Obama types said it was a “dog whistle” and, yup, “racist”.

Reprising sexist comments Obama made to attack Hillary Clinton, Obama will probably soon say that Palin’s “claws” are coming out. Or maybe it’s that “time of the month” for Palin.

Obama’s crowds know what Obama is referring to when he speaks his pig talk:

“You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”

The crowd rose and applauded, some of them no doubt thinking he may have been alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change,’” Obama continued, “it’s still gonna stink after eight years.

Obama and his Chicago thugs are up to their usual tired tricks. The difference this time is that the Republicans are calling Obama on his dirty tricks. The Obama campaign is, as usual, distributing anonymous memos and issuing sexist “lipstick” orders to its surrogates. It is clear that “lipstick” is Obama’s latest smear and that the smear is coordinated:

Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan on Tuesday – introducing Joe Biden at a campaign event – ripped into Palin’s record and punctuated it with this snarky jab. “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said. [snip]

And Obama hit Palin in nearly a dozen different press releases – one day after drawing laughs at a campaign stop by calling her a “moose shooter.”

The real Democratic Party committed suicide in Denver. What poses for the great Democratic Party of FDR is now a Hopium addled “rave” of Disco Democrats. Barack Obama will kill off the downballot Disco Democrats this NOvember.

Sexist and misogynistic Disco Democrats – Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi/Kennedy/Kerry/Richardson – What they need is a damn good political whacking.

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492 thoughts on “Obama’s Pigs

  1. Excellent, Admin.

    It’s such a shame HRC couldn’t respond to the Discocrats with the same force as the Repubs. I will always despise the DNC, BO and the discocrats for having orchestrated the inhumane slaughter of HRC and offering her up to HWNSNBS as sacrifice.

    BTW,
    Did you know BO is a poet?????
    Now this is scary!

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/07/02/070702on_onlineonly_obama

    ADMIN!!!!!
    Notice his use of the term flim flam about 10 lines down.

  2. McCain should just drop the pig “issue”.

    I absolutely agree. If McCain falls into the trap of calling everything Bambi & Co. says sexist, he will fall into the same trap Bambi fell into with respect to the race card.

    JM needs to save the gender card for when it truly applies. Otherwise, he paints both himself and Palin as whiners. Not good, imo.

  3. Pop takes another shot, neat,

    Points out the same amber

    Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and

    Makes me smell his smell,

    Uh….

  4. Where is everyone????

    I don’t know how FOX anchors can keep straight faces as they announce BO is about to address the ‘lipstick’ and ‘pig’ controversy in 10 or 15 minutes.

    I swear I’m ROTFLMFAO!

    Where is IDUNN!!!!!!
    I know she’s got a theory about the significance of this. 😛

  5. Idunn, Republican campaign theory is to launch continuous and varied attacks at the same time.

    Yesterday they hit Obama with the lipstick gaffe as well as the education ad. Remember that Obama supposedly gave a major education speech yesterday. That speech is now lost to history.

    The McCain campaign is going to call Obama out on even the slightest bit of sexism or attacks on McCain’s POW history. They learned from the primary history how dirty Obama is and that he will try to use the “racist” card whenever he gets the opportunity. The Republicans will not give him the opportunity.

    What the lipstick gaffe must tell Obama is that the day of the free ride is over. The Republicans attack.

    Remember also that there is enough on Obama to last more than the 8 weeks left of the campaign.

  6. Now I understand.

    A spot in my brain, something

    That may be squeezed out, like a

    Watermelon seed between

    Two fingers.

    Pop takes another shot, neat,

    Points out the same amber

    Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and

    Makes me smell his smell, coming

  7. I get that, Admin. I just think McCain is treading a fine line on this one. If Bambi had directly referenced Pailn prior to his lipstick remark, that would have been something solid McCain could have tried to pin the gender card on. But Bambi didn’t directly reference Palin (meaning ONLY Palin), and I just think McCain runs the risk ofl looking foolish, whiney and guilty of trying to manipulate women with this one.

    It’s one thing to let people read what they want into Bambi’s words…but for McCain to call him out on it, just isn’t a bright idea, imo. ESPECIALLY since McCain himself has used the lipstick remark in the past wrt another female candidate.

  8. My reply to the latest moneybegging letter:

    Oh I’m so sorry, but I’ll be unable to help out the top of the Democratic ticket this year, as all my excess funds are currently tied up in Lipstick futures.

    Love and Kisses
    XOOXOXOXO

    one of 18 million sweeties

  9. Idunn,

    I think McCain team is smart, they will use surrogates to play the ‘gender card’, on the other hand, Sarah Palin will be absolutely steadfast, and won’t be dragged into this mud. She will not cry ‘sexist’.

  10. The fact that Obama is holding a press briefing to “clarify” the lipstick comment puts him at a HUGE disadvantage…

    WOW

    He looks really pissed off!

    WHAT A CRY BABY!!!

    This man wants to be POTUS? He sulks and whines and is a DISCO WIMP!

    Go back to smelling your amber stain Barky

    You suck as a Political Leader.

  11. His arms are crossed, his “body language” is anger and rage and he has that smug and nasty look is is SOOOOOOO good at!

    Are you guys watching this?

  12. Bravo Admin,

    As I said in the last thread, by itself, the lipstick comment is harmless. It’s the fact that this man who want to be president and his sidekick keep pulling this garbage day in and day out. Whatever happened to talking about the issues? Oops I forgot. Obama stole his issues from Hillary. Doesn’t have one creative/original brain cell in his body.

    Coming forth to address this issue is such a joke. It puts him on the defensive and makes him a laughingstock. Big speeches should be for big issues. They shouldn’t be just because he has to explain himself for the umpteenth time that he is the new messiah and everyone should just stop picking on him because they are racist.

  13. basil9 Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 9:58 am
    Where is everyone????

    Still reading comments on last thread.*g*

    wbboei…Was it Hap Arnold who said: Nuts?…….Gen. McAuliffe, Bastogne, Battle of the Bulge.

  14. When I saw HRC the other nite, she looked at her notes ONLY to “keep her place” in the speech. She didn’t read anything. She KNOWS this stuff.

    Obama even has to look at his notes to respond.

  15. The thing about Obama’s statement of “lipstick” was his AUDIENCE response.

    Like the “flick off the shoulder” and the “flipping the bird” his supporters in the audience GO WILD, and he has the huge pregnant pauses, waiting for the “reaction” and then continues on…

    like following the lipstick comment with the stinky fish comment (Barracuda)

    then he feigns “outrage”

    He is SUCH A MISOGYNIST WHINEY ASS

  16. Gov. Palin has Barry’s number…Ridicule is toxic for a person with NPD…I am beginning to wonder if Obama will have a nervous breakdown before Nov. 4. Her one small jab at the “community organizer” and he has been “nuts” all week.

  17. shv: The McCain campaign had BO’s number, even before Palin came on board. Ridicule is the WORST thing to do, to a person with NPD. The campaign was ridiculing BO before. Note: Celebrity, “The One,” etc. Now, it is intensified, because Palin doesn’t have to hold back, like Hillary did. Plus, Palin has the support of the entire RNC and most of the public.

    I cannot believe he is giving a speech about the lipstick comment. Someone will have to put a you tube clip of it. He needs to move on, not stay stuck on this issue. His campaign is imploding, or seems to be.

  18. I frankly don’t care whether bambi did it on purpose or just a slip of his tongue. There’s no mistake though he hates women based on his notorious behaviour in primary.

    He deserves every backlash.

    Both ABC & NBC polls are showing he’s slipping fast among women voters. He only had 3-4 points lead among women. Based on historical voting pattern, this sort of spread is disaster for any democratic candidate. In the end, the male voters will usually open up a double-digit lead for GOP candidate.

  19. McCain/Palin campaign rally is now LIVE on foxnews.com

    Fred Thompson is speaking

    Norma – that was Hilarious! 🙂

  20. Obama Lin Biden, the Undemocratic pary, is toast……I love it……..

    I can smell a victory for John Mccain which means HRC 2012.

  21. Today is the 13th day since Obama gave his big speech. When will he regain his footing?

    Seems like years ago, but Barack Obama gave that big prime-time speech in Denver exactly 13 days ago today.

    The next morning, Team McCain recalibrated the race — and halted the all-Obama, all-the-time news coverage — by picking Sarah Palin. Since then, McCain-Palin, and specifically Palin, has been the nation’s dominant news story as reporters try to figure out who she is and what it all means for the GOP.

    As his poll numbers slide, Obama can’t get back in the game, at least as far as controlling the news cycle is concerned. He’s no longer the money story. It’s Palin.

    Check out the top stories as listed on this morning’s Real Clear Politics website (realclearpolitics.com):

    “Palin is a powerful new feminist force”
    “`Pit Bull Palin’ raises biting questions.”
    “McCain bounce has Democrats off-balance”
    “Could Clinton have Palin-proofed Dems?”
    “The rantings of a PTA mom”
    “Gov. Palin and the GOP resurrection”
    And on it goes.

    Obama is in an entirely uncharacteristic position — that of a Grade II news story.

    When, how and if he regains his footing in the media may be this campaign’s next big moment.

    primebuzz.kcstar/?q=node/14312

  22. FUNNY picture of BO on B Merry’s site from CannonFire

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/cannonfire-lipstick-on-a-pig/

  23. admin — I love the way you hammer it home! I use so much of your stuff in talking to people and I’ve been handing out the hillaryis44 url at every opportunity for such a long time.
    ——————
    Anyone from Massachusetts who is reading or posting here be sure to vote for Ed O’Reilly this coming Tuesday, September 16. This is a man who really cares about good government and the people he serves. A man of the people, a firefighter, a fisherman, a man who worked for his law degree, who has had nothing handed him, Ed understands the needs of the people of Massachusetts, and he will work hard for us.

    Kerry has got to retire. He’s a bored, jaded elitist so wrapped up in the tiny circle of inside Washington politics, he hardly knows anything about us here in MA. When was the last time you saw him visiting us at our jobs, asking us about our problems? Think of Hillary Clinton visiting upstate New York, where her constituents know her well, greet her like an old friend they can talk to. When was the last time John Kerry shook your hand? – asked you how you earn your living, how your kids are being educated and what kind of health insurance you have?

    Ed O’Reilly is the people’s friend and we need him.

    Be sure to read Heidi Li Feldman’s report on the O’Reilly/Kerry debate last Sunday. h t t p ://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/progressivism-in-the-present-momentcleaning-house-in-the-democratic-party.html

    Vote for Ed O’Reilly, US Senator from Massachusetts. As we say on the coast, “He’ll do a good job o’ work.”

  24. BHO invited Obama Says ‘Enough’ About ‘Lipstick’ Smear

    ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ Phrase Stirs Increasingly Negative Presidential Campaign
    By KATE SNOW and JAKE TAPPER
    Sept. 10, 2008

    RSS Sen. Barack Obama angrily challenged Republican claims that he insulted Gov. Sarah Palin by using the expression “lipstick on a pig” to describe Sen. John McCain’s attempts to paint himself as an agent of change, calling the GOP indignation “phony outrage and Swift boat politics.”

    Barack Obama said packaging his Republican rival John McCain’s policies as “change” was like putting “lipstick on a pig.” The McCain campaign jumped on the comment, accusing Obama of making a veiled reference to the GOP vice presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

    More Photos”What their campaign has done this morning is the same game that makes people sick and tired about politics in this country,” Obama told students at Granby High School in Norfolk, Va.

    Obama was referring to a new Web video that states that Obama called Palin a pig, as well as demands by the GOP’s Palin Truth Squad that he apologize to Palin for the remark, insisting it was a direct shot at the Republican vice presidential candidate.
    one more day of lipstick debate.

  25. Obama Says ‘Enough’ About ‘Lipstick’ Smear
    ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ Phrase Stirs Increasingly Negative Presidential Campaign
    By KATE SNOW and JAKE TAPPER
    Sept. 10, 2008

    abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5769091&page=1

  26. JanH Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    That sums it up!!..A huge problem for the Obama campaign is that all of the fabricated “good news” about Obama was out there by the end of Feb. The is no more positive news available, every thing that will be coming out will be bad. The race is for McCain/Palin to lose now and even if McCain became disabled before Nov. 4, I am not sure Bambi could beat Sarah.

  27. Anyone from Massachusetts who is reading or posting here be sure to vote for Ed O’Reilly this coming Tuesday, September 16. This is a man who really cares about good government and the people he serves. A man of the people, a firefighter, a fisherman, a man who worked for his law degree, who has had nothing handed him, Ed understands the needs of the people of Massachusetts, and he will work hard for us.

    Kerry has got to retire. He’s a bored, jaded elitist so wrapped up in the tiny circle of inside Washington politics, he hardly knows anything about us here in MA. When was the last time you saw him visiting us at our jobs, asking us about our problems? Think of Hillary Clinton visiting upstate New York, where her constituents know her well, greet her like an old friend they can talk to. When was the last time John Kerry shook your hand? – asked you how you earn your living, how your kids are being educated and what kind of health insurance you have?

    Ed O’Reilly is the people’s friend and we need him.

    Be sure to read Heidi Li Feldman’s report on the O’Reilly/Kerry debate last Sunday. h t t p ://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/progressivism-in-the-present-momentcleaning-house-in-the-democratic-party.html

    Vote for Ed O’Reilly, US Senator from Massachusetts. As we say on the coast, “He’ll do a good job o’ work.”

  28. How does it feel Mr. Obama to be on the other side of the fence? You did the same swiftboating to Hillary and Bill day in and day out. How does it feel to have every stupid word that comes out of your mouth analyzed and found wanting? 😉

  29. 4th try…
    Anyone from Massachusetts who is reading or posting here be sure to vote for Ed O’Reilly this coming Tuesday, September 16. This is a man who really cares about good government and the people he serves. A man of the people, a firefighter, a fisherman, a man who worked for his law degree, who has had nothing handed him, Ed understands the needs of the people of Massachusetts, and he will work hard for us.

    Kerry has got to retire. He’s a bored, jaded elitist so wrapped up in the tiny circle of inside Washington politics, he hardly knows anything about us here in MA. When was the last time you saw him visiting us at our jobs, asking us about our problems? Think of Hillary Clinton visiting upstate New York, where her constituents know her well, greet her like an old friend they can talk to. When was the last time John Kerry shook your hand? – asked you how you earn your living, how your kids are being educated and what kind of health insurance you have?

    Ed O’Reilly is the people’s friend and we need him.

    Be sure to read Heidi Li Feldman’s report on the O’Reilly/Kerry debate last Sunday. h t t p ://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/progressivism-in-the-present-momentcleaning-house-in-the-democratic-party.html

    Vote for Ed O’Reilly, US Senator from Massachusetts. As we say on the coast, “He’ll do a good job o’ work.”

  30. The Gloves Come Off

    FAIRFAX, VA–At the McCain-Palin rally here in Northern Virginia, a former Hillary Clinton supporter, Lillith Long, just gave a speech in which she raised the issue of Obama’s anti-American former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. Obama and the Democrats were silent, she said, as “Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Pfleger openly mocked Sen. Clinton” at Trinity United Church of Christ.

    As for Obama’s crowd-pleasing “lipstick on a pig” jab yesterday, the former Hillary supporter said:

    Well Mr. Obama–MISTER Obama–calling girls names is something you do in fifth grade and I don’t want a fifth grader running my country.”

    Fred Thompson is now hitting the same note: “I think Rev Wright was correct when he said [Obama’s] just doing what politicians do” to get elected.

  31. Per NRO:

    Chicks Dig McCain-Palin [Mark Hemingway]

    I’m at a McCain-Palin rally but given the demographics present I might as well be taking a warm estrogen bath. If Obama was counting on winning the female vote he should be worried.

  32. wbboei…Was it Hap Arnold who said: Nuts?…….Gen. McAuliffe, Bastogne, Battle of the Bulge.
    ——————————————
    SHV-thanks> wonder what he would have said if he met the washo creep: maybe “BO wackjob”.

  33. Norma,

    The DNC isn’t helping Obama in the least with that picture on there site. It just makes a mockery of the speech he is planning to give. Its like do as I say not as I do.

  34. Congresswomen Marsha Blackburn taking Obama and the DNC apart of misogyny and sexism

    says the DNC had an opportunity to give QUALIFIED WOMEN including HRC and Sebelius and ignored their contgribution to the political process.

    Also reminded listeners of Obama’s “Sweetie” comment

    that this is a PATTERN for him and WOMEN of all parties are OVER it

  35. McCain seems to draw largest crowd yet in Fairfax

    Lisa Lerer reports:

    According to McCain aides, the campaign gave out 18,000 tickets to today’s morning rally in Fairfax, Virginia. While probably a bit of an overestimate, it might not be that far off. The line for the event snakes for blocks down the street. There’s also a special guest: Sen. Fred Thompson, who’ll introduce the Republican ticket.

    McCain aides say the fire marshal has pegged at 23,000, which would make it his largest crowd yet.

  36. Obama knocks press on ‘made-up controversy’

    Speaking at a high school in Norfolk, Obama took a few moments to address what he calls “the made-up controversy” of the day, Amie Parnes reports.

    Obama said the McCain campaign moved to “seize an innocent remark and take it out of context because they knew it’s catnip for the news media.”

    “See, it would be funny, but the news media decided that would be the lead story yesterday. This happens every election cycle. Every four years, this is what we do. This is what they want to spend two of the last 55 days talking about…Enough!” he said.

    Obama called the attacks “lies, outrage and swift boat politics.”

    “These are serious times and they call for a serious debate…spare me all the phony outrage. Spare me all the phony talk about change,” he said.

    UPDATE: McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responds: “Barack Obama can’t campaign with schoolyard insults and then try to claim outrage at the tone of the campaign. His talk of new politics is as empty as his campaign trail promises, and his record of bucking his party and reaching across the aisle simply doesn’t exist.”

  37. The Obama campaign has denied that it has a serious problem with female voters.

    On Monday, campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, “Your poll is wrong,” adding, “We certainly are not seeing any movement like that. Polls, time to time, particularly on the demographic stuff, can have some pretty wild swings.”
    ———————————————
    Q: so as groucho marks used to say: who are you gonna believe? Plouffe (or has a bad record for truth and veracity and is a scumbag besides) who are you gonna believe me or your lying eyes (in this case poll numbers). This liar comes from the msnbc fold which calls it a dead heat when mccain is 7 points up, and a landslide when bambi is 5 points up. Yea, we sure want to listen to people like that for the truth now dont we.

  38. kostner Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 11:39 am
    The Gloves Come Off

    The beginning of a seven week nightmare for Obama..It’s about time.

    Where are you getting that news feed??

  39. Speaking of democrats.org, I had an email from them titled “Tell the media to call Sarah Palin a serial liar”

    Haven’t opened it.

  40. UPDATE: McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responds: “Barack Obama can’t campaign with schoolyard insults and then try to claim outrage at the tone of the campaign. His talk of new politics is as empty as his campaign trail promises, and his record of bucking his party and reaching across the aisle simply doesn’t exist.
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    keep that left jab in his face. he is redefining himself for the flake he is and all the republicans have to do is remind the public and then he reminds them by giving another speech to cover yet another gaff. What is wrong with the democratic party that they are pushing a total idiot like this to be president. We know kennedy and soros did this but who else said yes this is the guy. Kennedy has no regard for the American people and we know the story on Soros, but who else in that party is out to destroy the country?

  41. Forgive me but I am not sold on Blackburn. Never have been.

    Ridiculous to cast Sebelius as someone who was passed over and equate her in that sense with Hillary.

    Sebelius is the one who assured us that barack is the product of solid kansas values.

    From that statement alone we can tell she is a liar. But what else has she done to qualify herself to be vice presiden?

  42. That’s just it wbboei,

    He is redefining himself as a flake, but what is even worse, is that he has nothing to run on and the Reps know that. He has NO experience, leadership or otherwise and McCain is going to shove that in his face over and over again. This man is a sham.

  43. Barack reminds me of a dodo bird trying to fly. He figures all it will take is enough hot air. There is a reason dodo birds are extinct. Only a fool would trust a nation teetering on the brink of financial disaster to someone like this who is loyal only to himself and hates america.

  44. wbboei Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Maybe the truth will come out some day…but to me it looks like the first major battle of a war that has been going on since the young Bill Clinton joined the DLC. The Kennedy, Dean, Kerry, Pelosi group thought that they had the perfect candidate to wipe the memory of the Clinton era from history. Unfortunately their un-vetted “secret” weapon turned out to be a sociopath and dumb as a box of rocks.

  45. I had to run out briefly for a family/staffing meeting with my handicapped daughter’s job-training program, so missed his response.

    I take it that the great and wondrous Barky put his nose in the air, drew himself up in disdainful umbrage, and decried the nasty state of politics again before he lectured us all that he never did what we keep seeing him do?

  46. wbboei said:
    who else said yes this is the guy. Kennedy has no regard for the American people and we know the story on Soros, but who else in that party is out to destroy the country?
    ============

    Brazile.

  47. Obama’s woes have nothing to do with ‘lipstick’
    Howard Fineman on the candidate’s pride, strategy and stump speak

    ANALYSIS
    By Howard Fineman

    WASHINGTON – No, Barack Obama was not making fun of Sarah Palin when he talked about some Republican putting “lipstick on a pig.”

    He was trying to be colloquial, and John McCain’s campaign knew as much – even as it was going theatrically ballistic.

    That’s not to say that Obama hasn’t made mistakes. In fact, he’s made – and is making – a lot.

    For two years, Obama played the golf course of presidential politics with the ice-cold self-assuredness of a Tiger Woods. But since securing the Democratic nomination, he’s made a series of strategic errors that could jeopardize his chances in November.

    After traveling with him on the trail, watching him in Denver and talking to Democratic operatives and insiders, here’s my list of his errant shots

    Declining to take federal financing for the general election
    This mistake is two-pronged. Obama stands accused of flip-flopping on the matter, saying in 2007 that he’d accept those funds and the cash limits that come along with it. In relying solely on private money, Obama appears to have ceded some higher ground to McCain, who, with his public funding, appears slightly more immune to interest groups. On a more practical level, Obama will have to leave the campaign trail more often to headline fundraising events. He’ll likely spend more time than he should in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles and less than he needs in Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Detroit.

    Declining McCain’s offer to hold ten town hall debates
    When Obama was leading the race in leaps and bounds, he blew off this GOP proposal. Too bad. Had Obama locked in that deal, he would now be able to confront McCain face-to-face about some of the Republicans’ more aggressive – if not to say cynically manipulative – recent television advertising claims. An Obama-McCain series would also have drawn attention away from Gov. Palin, the autumn cover girl.

    Failing to go all the way with the Clintons
    Yes, I know, Bill and Hillary got prime speaking roles in Denver. And yes, I know, the Clintons are difficult to deal with and probably hope Obama fails. Still, it’s Obama’s task to latch on to them, even against their will. But he was too proud. Although he’s going to see the former president this week, Obama should have broken bread with Bill months ago. Obama needs the Clintons to defend and work for him. They are not eager to do so, but it was still Obama’s task to trap them into displays of political enthusiasm. It’s just my guess, but I think Mr. Clinton would have been open to the wooing – if for no other reason than to recapture his reputation as an avatar of the civil rights cause. Obama also neglected to court Clinton fundraisers and supporters in places like Los Angeles. All they want from Obama is a phone call. They would swoon

    The 22-state strategy
    For months, the Obama campaign invested advertising time and organizing money in an impressive array of red states that haven’t been on the Democrats’ radar in recent elections. This made for great press clippings. But, for the most part, it was a waste of assets. Except for perhaps Virginia, most out-of-the-way states do not seem likely to end up in Obama’s fold. He’d be more successful focusing on traditional battlegrounds.

    Failing to state a sweeping, but concrete, policy idea
    It is not enough to be for change – everybody is, or is trying to be. To make it stick, Obama needed, and needs, to put forth an easy-to-grasp grand proposal, one that would encapsulate what his central message. That tagline? That he is dedicated, body and soul, to advancing the economic interests of hard-working, average Americans. He has the makings of such a proposal – his tax cuts for low and middle-income families. But he has yet to package that, or anything else, in an easy-to-grasp, hard-number plan for voters. Instead, he’s got more of a laundry list than an actual rallying cry.

    Remaining trapped in professor-observer speak
    When you listen to Obama, it sometimes feels like you’re hearing a smart but distant analysis of the political scene. He sounds like a writer or teacher, but not the leader of a political crusade. Obama has been far too “meta” – a detached commentator on his own situation and his own country. Voters want an action plan, not an exegesis.

    Failing to attack McCain early
    Obama was wary of attacking a man who had suffered so much during the Vietnam War – an understandable emotion. But that wariness, combined with Obama’s natural inclination to be seen as the nice guy (one who lets others do the knifing) lead to an unfortunate result. It gave two free months for McCain to build up a head of steam as a war hero, as opposed to what Obama needed to paint him as publically: a man beholden to corporate interests and a likely clone of George W. Bush.

    Does all of this mean that Obama is somehow doomed? Of course not. He is a quick study and a fast learner, and the team of McCain and Palin is capable of making their own set of mistakes.

    But if I were an Obama partisan I would be worried that his mistakes have a common thread – pride.

    Obama seems to want to do things on his own, and on his own terms. It’s understandable. Obama has his own crowd – from Chicago, from Harvard, and from a new cadre of wealthy, Ivy-educated movers and shakers.

    “He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,” one of the latter told me today. “He wants to do it his way, and his way alone.” But politics doesn’t work that way. And has Obama should know, or is about to find out, that everyone needs a little help.

  48. I watched the McCain/Palin Fairfax rally earlier. They seem to have a nice catch phrase kind of theme going on there which will be very popular as it gets polished. The theme is energy independence (in addition to change and mavericks and so on..) which they are tying to freedom from regimes who are not friendly to the US for national security, innovation and new jobs for economy…

  49. “He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,” one of the latter told me today. “He wants to do it his way, and his way alone.” But politics doesn’t work that way. And has Obama should know, or is about to find out, that everyone needs a little help.

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    The arrogance is going to be his downfall.

  50. And his downfall for his arrogance cannot come too soon for me….
    any second NOW would be the best present in my life!!!!

  51. Former Newswoman and BHO Spokesperson Linda Douglass denying to Andrea Mitchell that Obama has ANY Operatives or lawyers in Alaska to dig dirt on Palin

    so, McCain just “made this up?” or is it parsing the facts by Douglass?

  52. Maybe, BO is splitting hairs. The DNC has operatives in Alaska, but isn’t BO the DNC? I don’t think, it is just the McCain campaign saying this. They are lying.

  53. lil ole grape Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 11:27 am
    admin — I love the way you hammer it home! I use so much of your stuff in talking to people and I’ve been handing out the hillaryis44 url at every opportunity for such a long time.
    ——————
    I really want to thank you for keeping my sanity during the primary and now. Your articles are so well written and reseached.

    I don’t post here often but it feels like home here.

  54. “lipstick on a pig” was first used by Elizabeth Edwards. It’s a southern phrase. Never heard it used before until EE said it.

    So he’s trying to appeal to Southerners by speaking their language but it backfired on him.

  55. Thank you so much, all of you, who took the time to go to my column on the Iowa City Press-Citizen and kick a little Obama-loving butt! Iowa is a toss-up state, as you know. My Writers’ Group piece on “Why I’ve left the Democrats” is the most-commented on piece right now in Iowa City’s local paper. I am spreading the PUMA message and quoting from Hillary is 44, namely HWC’s comment on why she’s voting for McCain-Palin (thank you, HWC, I hope you don’t mind — I gave you credit, whoever you are!!!).

    Tammy Bruce’s piece in RealClearPolitics.com is similar to my own but much better and full of lovely detail and good explanations. I hope that everybody saw it.

    Thank you!!!
    Maria
    M

  56. I read an Obamabot on openleft, a rabid obama blog’s commentary. He said his brother was phonebanking for Obama in VA. The last 48 to 72 hours were brutal for them. All the independents they called said they really liked Sarah Palin’s spunk and fearless spirits. His brother is a rabid anti-Hillary bot, and is now really believing Obama blew it by not putting Hillary on the ticket.

  57. Admin and everyone who comments here,

    Thanks for being my inspiration and refuge from the ugliness attacking my column and my blog right now. It’s tough to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, but it’s worth it. The women’s revolt will be the story of the elections of 2008, and I was glad to hear that Republican candidates are doing better and being given a second look.

    Now Ted Stevens? He should go down.

    But oh well, at least we’re sending a strong message to the UNDemocratic Party, and they need a shot between the eyes, especially the DNC.

  58. (photo)Hillary supporters for McCain/Palin at VA rally.

    h t t p : / / i40.photobucket.com/albums/e215/RileyNotOReilly/hillarysupporter.jpg

  59. mariaconz,

    You’re very brave! I can’t even read all those nasty comments.

    If you’d like to send out alerts whenver you post something, pls send me your email and I’ll subscribe you to PumaResponders.com

  60. kostner, I really dislike Hillary supporters who parade as McCain supporters. It will come back to haunt HRC if she runs in 2012.

    We’re going to need the help of these Obamabots and if they blame HRC and her supporters for his loss, you damn better know they’re not going to support her.

    It’s the reason why HRC is stumping for BO. She sees things in the long-term. Unfortunately, some HRC supporters don’t.

  61. Even Hillary supporters who “parade as McCain supporters” own their own votes. I have a feeling that they thought long and hard before moving in that direction.

    While I agree with filbertsf that this could backfire on HRC, I don’t blame anyone who thinks McCain is a better choice than the “annoited one.”

  62. filbertsf,

    If Obama wins, Hillary will never get another chance. The only important thing is to defeat Obama.

  63. turndown, there’s many ways of defeating Obama: we don’t vote for him. some can volunteer for McCain’s campaign. You can contribute money. You can come here and to other blogs and “educate” the public about Obama.

    But to parade around and be photographed wearing HRC shirts and carrying her signs at a McCain rally will leave a very bitter taste in the mouths of many Democrats. Not sure how that even helps to defeat Obama.

    I feel as though we’re being used by McCain and his people if we do that.

    What I’m saying is leave HRC out of it.

  64. filbertsf:

    I can only take it one election at a time. We have our options for 2008 and all I can do is evaluate them and support one or the other… or not.

    I’ll worry about 2012 when it gets here.

    It’s not just Hillary. I haven’t seen the Democrats make the first effort to win my vote this year. In fact, they’ve said in so many words that they neither want nor need my vote.

    BTW, the thought of a Pelosi/Reid Congress and an Obama President scares the dickens out of me. There’s too much incompetence in that crowd to not have any checks and balances.

  65. And in all honesty, who is it who will put the blame on Hillary? The DNC, Obama, his rabid supporters? I think the rest of the world is watching Obama self-destruct all by himself. Most realize that the guy is all show and no substance.

    If Obama flunks President 44 class, it will be all on his own head and no one else’s.

  66. turndownobama-com,

    I beleive what Filbertsf said is she did not like people held “Hillary supporter for McCain” sign at Mccain’s rally. I don’t like that either. Hillary will need Obamabots come out in droves to defeat Rep. in 2012.

  67. I wonder if this steve cohen is the same guy compared called Hillary to that crazy woman in that movie with Michael douglas…

  68. You know what suspect sometimes? I think some Republicans pose at HRC supporters and hold her signs at McCain’s rally.

  69. mp Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
    I wonder if this steve cohen is the same guy compared called Hillary to that crazy woman in that movie with Michael douglas…

    Yes, he is

  70. well, listening to Rush Limbaugh on my morning drive, and here’s what he said:

    the wheels are coming off the Obama campaign, and this is when heads roll, but the head that needs to roll is Obama’s.

    (giggles) and the panicked Democrats are saying, “we coulda had Hillary.”

  71. hwc: “BTW, the thought of a Pelosi/Reid Congress and an Obama President scares the dickens out of me. There’s too much incompetence in that crowd to not have any checks and balances.”

    Amen to that!

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    filbertsf Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    You know what suspect sometimes? I think some Republicans pose at HRC supporters and hold her signs at McCain’s rally.

    I don’t think so. Many people are very, very angry. PUMAs are angry democrats and independents. It is not a Republican plot, no matter what people say. I was a democrat, but am now a PUMA.

  72. hwc, you know what would be even scarier, a GOP Congress and a McCain Presidency.

    The downticket worries me. Because when McCain wins, I want a huge Dem majority.

  73. its interesting to me, that people ares still tripping over the republican 2012 thing…

    for me, i say who cares?
    i’m more pissed over what hillarys brothers and sisters in the democratic part, did to hurt and use her, than i am at what the repubs have ever done.
    dude know thy enemy, especially the enemy within…

  74. wbboei Marsha Blackburn, a down home girl from the beautiful state of Tennessee, had me at “IT’S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!!!”

  75. filbert, I could care less whether all those signs are “real” or not, though I’d bet that most are. My one and only goal at this point is to stop that dangerous fraud from setting foot in my country’s Whitehouse. I believe Hillary is strong enough to pick up the pieces of this party after.

    But you know what? I LOVE this country even more than I love Hillary, and I will NOT risk seeing it handed over to a Chicago thug because I am worried about her chances in 2012. I will not feel safe until that huge risk is ANNIHILATED, and so will join hands with whoever I need to to STOMP that trash into the ground, then STOMP him again every time he so much as twitches.

    Hill will be fine. Hill knew this would happen. She and Bill have a plan – I believe that.

  76. hwc Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
    filbertsf:

    I can only take it one election at a time. We have our options for 2008 and all I can do is evaluate them and support one or the other… or not.

    I’ll worry about 2012 when it gets here.

    It’s not just Hillary. I haven’t seen the Democrats make the first effort to win my vote this year. In fact, they’ve said in so many words that they neither want nor need my vote.

    BTW, the thought of a Pelosi/Reid Congress and an Obama President scares the dickens out of me. There’s too much incompetence in that crowd to not have any checks and balances.
    ———————————————————————————————————————————————————

    I agree 100% with you. I’ll worry about 2012 when it gets here! Anyway, who knows if Hillary will run in 2012 anyway. Frankly, I didn’t think that she would have an easy time of it this year.

    Besides, I feel that Hillary would need us too in 2012 IF she decides to run for president again and the fact that she and Bill is stomping for Obama considering the hideous way that he has treated them ticks me off and could alienate some of us who wouldn’t have done that.

    The Obots could rally behind another black candidate if that is the case in 2012. They seemed to have left the Clintons for good after the Iowa contest. I really don’t see very many of them returning because I have read that they feel that they don’t owe the Clintons anything. Although, I don’t understand what they feel that they owe Obama except for a place in history because he hasn’t done anything for them yet. So, don’t can’t on them returning.

    Besides, Hillary will be blamed anyway. I just wish that she will stop the pandering!

  77. ooohh
    just got my 68 days to election plea for cash
    it has a really funky smell to it. I think from the enclosed bumper sticker. Find it kind of funny that the dnc would be sending out stinky mail. Had to put it in a drawer and close. Anyone else get one today?

  78. filbertsf Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    birdgal, don’t be naive. of course it happens.

    ——————————————————————————

    I’m sure it happens, but PUMA’s are not a big Republican plot. I’m on another message board, where a group of Bay Area democrats will be voting for McCain. I may be naive, but I don’t believe every Hillary supporter at a McCain rally is a Republican. Even Admin. said, at one point, to wear Hillary gear at a McCain rally. I guess the qualifying word is “some,” which I do agree with. I just don’t think, it is widespread. Call me naive.

  79. I think my head is about to explode.

    Marsha Blackburn? Have you heard/read some of the things she’s said about HRC? She’s the one rooting for the Iraq war but can’t remember the name of one dead soldier in her district.

  80. HillaryforTexas Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Hill will be fine. Hill knew this would happen. She and Bill have a plan – I believe that.
    —————————————————-
    Of course they do! And they will have 4 years for the “I told you so’s” and buyer’s remorse to percolate and for voters to beg, beg, beg her to step up in 2012. It’s probably starting already.

  81. Janis on riverdaughter speaks for me about the Roe v. Wade threat, and how defeating Obama may HELP with choice, not undermine it:

    I feel that the degradation of Roe can in fact be combatted most effectively by NOT electing Obama. When the Dems learn that they can’t take us for granted, they’ll start actually shoring up Roe and defending it (and defending their female candidates against disgusting attacks) instead of just happily letting it dangle in the hopes that they can someday threaten our lives to get them to vote for us.

    They almost came in their goddamned pants when they realized they could finally pull what they thought was their trump card against us. You could almost hear the glee: “This is GREAT! THIS is what we’ve been letting abortion hang by a thread for! We finally get to use it to get the bitches in line!” Then, they brought it out, lovingly, like Babe Ruth lovingly hauling out his favorite bat.

    And we failed to cringe. I am so proud, and I hope I’ll be prouder on November 5th, of all women everywhere — when we stare down the mouth of the cannon and refuse to blink.

    This is our moment, this is our time standing in front of the tank.

  82. what does “loving this country more than HRC” have anything to do with allowing the GOP to use HRC supporters as pawns? I don’t feel like being anyone’s pawn.

    I’m sorry that many of you are okay with that. I’m not.

    We’re HRC supporters and we want to see BO dropped like a fly. But we need to be mindful that we’re not being used by anyone.

  83. actually she congratulated HRC just last week when a string of repub women came out for Palin against the sexims attacks.

    As far as I see, the iraq war hs balanced out….both sides have equal blame/credit for its failure/success… which way you want to look at it.

  84. Hillary supporters are using McCain/Palin to put a stop to Obama’s ambitions. I think this “use argument” goes both ways.

  85. filberts: Every politician uses everyone as pawns in one way or the other. Politicians pander, that is what they do. At least, someone is pandering to us. BO and his minions have said, “we don’t need you.” Donna Brazile said, “Stay home.” I don’t feel used by McCain. I make my own decisions, and I made this one, back in May.

  86. She’s the one rooting for the Iraq war but can’t remember the name of one dead soldier in her district.

    I’m no fan of Blackburn, but Shuster sucker punched her, imo. After asking the question, he then quoted the name of a soldier supposedly in her district. Turns out, he was a soldier from a neighboring district and Shuster was forced to apologize on air.

  87. Who is being used, filbert? I’m certainly not. I have my eyes wide open, thanks. I am making a deal in full knowledge of exactly what I am doing. They are advantageous to me, I am advantageous to them.

    I understand where you are coming from, but to say that we are being used is actually a little insulting – as if we have no idea what is going on, and are witless pawns. We are not stupid, filbert. We get it. My choice is one of cold-eyed reason, fully prepared to accept the attendant risks.

  88. JanH Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
    h4t,

    Excellent post!

    JanH Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    Hillary supporters are using McCain/Palin to put a stop to Obama’s ambitions. I think this “use argument” goes both ways.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    H4t,

    I missed your post before, but it is excellent. My sentiments exactly.

    JanH,

    You are so right! It does go both ways 🙂

  89. I agree with others here, Filbert. No one is using us; we are working to avoid a disaster for our country in 2008 and clear a path for Hillary to make history in 2012, and lead the Senate to protect our rights along that path. She will work very effectively with McCain/Palin, I’m sure.

    This is on point to our discussion this morning from B Merry (she’s been busy today!) “There will be lipstick, Day 2.”

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/batchelor-there-will-be-lipstick-day-2/

  90. I am really loving Bo getting a taste of his own medicine. When his campaign pounced on BC’s innocent comment drawing an analogy between BO’s position on Iraq and fairytales they magnified a fabricated slight into a rallying cry painting the Clintons as racist.

    It’s deeply satisfying to see him squirming under the same extremist microscope wielded, this time, by the repubs applying the sexist label to him. And his cries of foul, no fair, out-of-bound, misinterpretation, exaggeration are music to my ears.

  91. LisaB posted up a John Lennon song from 1970 about misogyny..I had never heard it before. It’s pretty rough stuff but still valid, IMO.

  92. Steve Cohen of Memphis said this on the floor of the House of Reps today!
    In speaking about the change BO offers Cohen said BO was a community organizer like Jesus!

    Bo is Jesus! First Nancy pelosi, now Cohen!!!!!!

    Now that needs to be an ad.

  93. basil9
    the difference is the rascist cries were a fabrication, the sexism is real.and I think Hillary supporters for McCain will only increase her value in the Senate.

  94. Look if the congress goes repub, it is because of the stupidity of nancy/reid…especially nancy.

    She should step down as the speaker now to avoid any such a situation.

  95. filbertsf,

    The more HIllary signs at McCain rallies the better, whoever is paying for them!

    It carries our message: If you (GOP now or Dems in 2012) want our votes, then don’t oppose HIllary in 2012 or her issues now.

  96. I wish they would do a poll asking how many would vote for Hillary if Obama was thrown to the wolves (figuratively speaking) today. I know the time is running out, but I would still be interested in knowing the results.

  97. mp Says:
    Look if the congress goes repub, it is because of the stupidity of nancy/reid…especially nancy.
    She should step down as the speaker now to avoid any such a situation.
    ===================

    Good point. And Reid too. Hillary for Senate Majority Leader 2009! hrcforsenatemajorityleader09.com

  98. In response to:
    filbertsf Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    You know what suspect sometimes? I think some Republicans pose at HRC supporters and hold her signs at McCain’s rally.
    —————————————–
    This so sounds like the Obamanationals who were adept at calling Hillary supporters Republicans, or tried to hold Hillary supporters hostage because of their vaginas, or called them racist just because they did not endorse the guy who promised HOPE and CHANGE but NONE of them could say HOPE for what and CHANGE to what. I do not POSE as anything but genuine [although someone has called me, my family for generations back and my children “bitter”], and that suggestion is offensive. The group think of such a large portion of the population that keeps them tied to an abusive undemocratic Democratic Party is astounding. I am NOT a Republican, neither am I Democrat, nor am I slave to Roe vs Wade, nor am I racist. I am now a registered Independent voter in FL [thanks DNC/Dean/Reid/Pelosi/Brazile/Obama], and I will not forget those who voted me half a person…..all good Democrats all. And as far as needing the Obamanationals in the future…I don’t give a rats a$$ about them now or in the future. And they do not give a sh!t about us. Did you not read Donna Brazile’s admonishment to us that we were no longer needed and that we were a part of the Old Coalition???? And she further stated that it is not about winning, it is about enlarging the base. Does this not draw a lovely visual in her head?
    If, after they floated an unqualified candidate and used all the thievery, thuggery and strongarming tactics to force their unqualified candidate down our throats, if after losing their collective a$$es in November, if the Obamanationals and the DNC and the undemocratic Democratic Party has not learned from the result of beating up on girls [Hillary and now Palin], then there really is no hope for them. They should then be drawn and quartered and fed to the the pigs.

    I will defend Hillary and Palin and I consider myself a Hillary Republican – thanks to the undemocratic Democratic Party.

  99. JanH Says: I wish they would do a poll asking how many would vote for Hillary if Obama was thrown to the wolves (figuratively speaking) today. I know the time is running out, but I would still be interested in knowing the results.
    ==================

    At this point I’d rather see him eaten by the pitbull with lipstick — so he could never come back!

    Let McCain and Palin make a start cleriing up Bush Jr’s mess. Imrove both parties.

  100. gonzotx // September 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    It’s Official: Palin is a Superstar
    By Justin Paulette
    Sep 9th 2008 1:37PM
    Filed Under:eRepublicans, 2008 President, Sarah Palin

    Not because she captured enough of the media spotlight that mere proximity allowed McCain to draw more news coverage than Obama for the first time in three months.

    Not because she paved the way for McCain to leap ahead of Obama by a 5-point lead nationally and a 15-point lead among critical independents.

    Not because she draws crowds of such proportion that they choke entire city centers when once-crowd-starved McCain comes to town.

    Not even because she fills campaign coffers at a rate of $5,000,000 / hour – in Obama’s home city of Chicago.

    But, Sarah Palin is a super-star because she, like the Governator before her, now has a series of action figures!

    “Isn’t this the most marvelous running mate in the history of the nation?” asked McCain. “Sarah Palin — she’s magnificent,” cheered McCain. “I could not ask for a greater partner than the governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin,” beemed McCain.

    Sarah the Marvelous! Sarah the Magnificent! Sarah the Vice-President – and if so, because she got elected to the position, and McCain may have just been there to round out the ticket!

    These dolls are awful, one looks like Brittany Speers

  101. • filbertsf Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    what does “loving this country more than HRC” have anything to do with allowing the GOP to use HRC supporters as pawns? I don’t feel like being anyone’s pawn.
    I’m sorry that many of you are okay with that. I’m not.
    We’re HRC supporters and we want to see BO dropped like a fly. But we need to be mindful that we’re not being used by anyone.
    ————————————————————————–
    Filbert, the pawns are those who blindly follow their parties without making the effort to be informed and work in defence of democratic principles. Many people decided long ago that we would not vote for Obama and that the only way to clean out the mess in the Dem party is to defeat him as well as all who contrived his selection. That is why we are voting McCain. Things could be much worse, you know. McCain is not GWB, no matter how much the Dems insist he is. We are enlightened voters and independent thinkers here, and it is not very perceptive of you to call us pawns.

    As for loving Hillary and my country, Hillary is to me a symbol of all my country stands for and I love them both. Both are sometimes compromised, but I have faith that both will survive and flourish.

  102. As for losing the bots in the future — what will they do, vote for Nader? We’ll have a viable ticket to vote for — McCain/Palin or hopefullly Palin/someone.

    What are the bots going to do, refuse to vote for “The Democrat”?

  103. well i can be honest and say, I HAVE AN AGENDA!
    and i will USE anyone that helps me achieve it…

    NOBAMA
    NOWHERE
    NOTIME
    NOHOW

  104. gonzotx // September 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    It’s Official: Palin is a Superstar
    By Justin Paulette
    Sep 9th 2008 1:37PM
    Filed Under:eRepublicans, 2008 President, Sarah Palin

    Not because she captured enough of the media spotlight that mere proximity allowed McCain to draw more news coverage than Obama for the first time in three months.

    Not because she paved the way for McCain to leap ahead of Obama by a 5-point lead nationally and a 15-point lead among critical independents.

    Not because she draws crowds of such proportion that they choke entire city centers when once-crowd-starved McCain comes to town.

    Not even because she fills campaign coffers at a rate of $5,000,000 / hour – in Obama’s home city of Chicago.

    But, Sarah Palin is a super-star because she, like the Governator before her, now has a series of action figure

    “Isn’t this the most marvelous running mate in the history of the nation?” asked McCain. “Sarah Palin — she’s magnificent,” cheered McCain. “I could not ask for a greater partner than the governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin,” beemed McCain.

    Sarah the Marvelous! Sarah the Magnificent! Sarah the Vice-President – and if so, because she got elected to the position, and McCain may have just been there to round out the ticket!

  105. turndownobama… I like it when you talk about the possibility there might be a cleaning out of both parties.

  106. Finally got a response to my question about write in votes in PA:

    The name filled in on a “write-in” line on a ballot is the name that receives credit for that vote. The vote is not awarded to any individual other than the one whose name was written in.

    No salutation. No name attached to the reponse. Not very corteous or professional. I was specific about voting for Hillary.

  107. The lipstick ad pulled after NBC cried foul at copyright infringement coz of Couric’s excerpt.
    NQ

    Here is McCain’s “Lipstick” ad that was pulled from YouTube after Obama’s CBS cronies yelled copyright over the Couric part of the ad. View it, save it on your hard drive and pass it on:

    http://www.blip.tv/file/1249244

    The next time they tell you it’s a ‘liberal media,’ laugh at them.

    The ad already had 250,000 views — in one day — on YouTube. Obama’s media flunkies knew this was the finishing blow to Barry, and so they went Orwell and pulled the spot.

    Tanked-out media trying to influence the election, guys.

    Fight back.

  108. gonzo,

    the filter blocks links with ht tp and ht ml. Sometimes it doesn’t like 3w’s.
    Length isn’t usually a problem other than not being able to see what you’re typing beyond the dialogue box.

    try again.

  109. basil9
    believe cbs had to act as such. Copywrite laws. But the ad being pulled only generates more interest and publicity. The people throwing together McCain ads I am sure were well aware of what they were doing.

  110. Gallup Daily: McCain 48%, Obama 43% NEW September 10, 2008
    The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update for Sept. 7-9 finds little substantive change in the structure of the race, with John McCain at 48% and Barack Obama at 43% among registered voters.

  111. basil9 Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    I am really loving Bo getting a taste of his own medicine. When his campaign pounced on BC’s innocent comment drawing an analogy between BO’s position on Iraq and fairytales they magnified a fabricated slight into a rallying cry painting the Clintons as racist.
    *****

    I actually never saw that analogy at first – was so steamed about BO flipping Hillary the bird – but it’s true. I wish the Republicans could pull out some of their arsenal from the Hillary days – because I’d love them to address the “race card” that BO plays ALL the time. I was listening to snippets of Joe Scarborough addressing this reporter-turned Obama spokesperson, Linda someone or other – and Joe Scarborough was accusing BO of sexism – I think Republicans need to be more careful about calling sexism at every turn, because it’s crystal clear that’s what it was otherwise, it will limit them if BO plays the race card and calling him out on it.

  112. meiyingsu – hopefully, the voters are settling more into their choices…then it would be good news for Mccain.

  113. HillaryforTexas,

    You say things SO WELL!! No, we won’t blink. I am in the middle of a nasty storm right now in Iowa City for saying that I have left the Democratic Party and voting for McCain/Palin, but I am still standing straight and tall. My article is the #1 most commented-on article in the Iowa City Press-Citizen! I’m a PUMA and proud of it.

    Hey, do we need a fashion statement in orange? Something like the Black Panthers, to symbolize our revolt? Except for the guns, of course.

  114. 2nd try:

    Anyone seen this lovely new logo:

    sweasel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ohnoes.jpg

    The creator has generously offered to share it freely with all that like it.

    She titled it “Meltdown”

    Heh.

  115. Major Garret on FOX just said they are the only ones who have polled the “newly registered” voters that are supposedly Obama’s big secret weapon.

    He says the NEW voters are 47% Obama, 44% McCain – or roughly equal.

  116. skmf12 Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
    well i can be honest and say, I HAVE AN AGENDA!
    and i will USE anyone that helps me achieve it…

    NOBAMA
    NOWHERE
    NOTIME
    NOHOW

    ———————————————————————————–
    AMEN!!!!!!!

    I also like the idea of the cleansing of both parties.

    ShortTemper,

    Good post! I really don’t understand why the Clintons are so concerned about ticking off obamabots! They really gave the Clintons their behinds to kiss and would most probably have no qualms about doing it again.

    Spike Lee even said that he voted for Bill Clinton not once but twice! But now all of a sudden Bill is a racist? Unbelievable!!

    I really don’t blame Obama and his surrogates for causing many blacks from abandoning the Clintons after knowing them all of these years as much as I blame them (blacks) for quickly believing the rhetoric of someone they barely knew.

    Hillary should concentrate more on KEEPING her base instead of trying to woo the Obmambots over. I think that she may be treading on thin ice if this keeps up and especially if Palin proves to be the fighter they say that she is.

  117. i’m sure this was posted before from justsaynodeal,
    but i’m reposting k?
    ******************************************

    “Posted on September 7th, 2008 in Princess Wears Prada by hireheels
    A very seasoned female competitor in the pr world once told me: “You’ve got the best instincts in the business.” Tell me more—I wanted to say—not about me, about you! But that would conclude our brief sisterhood moment.

    Back then I remember thinking, Ill take it! When you work for yourself, you form multi-textured filters and multi-layered armor, but few mentors. And typically, through no fault of our own, we women rarely stay on a straight and narrow path to career nirvana. My own has been as confusing and meandering as the labyrinthian, white-walled center of Mykonos. Bottom line: life gets in the way.

    So, when the veiled warnings via phone and email started coming from life-long friends and colleagues – one for whom I’ve given over a half-dozen references for employment—I was really miffed. Their instant abandonment of sisterhood and their rush to judge and even insult the Alaskan working mother of five personally shocked and offended me. I’ve decided to ignore them and instead issue the following:

    You don’t need to go to this blog. You don’t need to read this post. You don’t need to comment. You don’t need to think. But if you’re going to attack…me or Sarah Palin, you had better think again. All your attacks do is create a sympathetic figure in Sarah Palin (and a staunch defender in me). But trust me, she doesn’t need sympathy. And I don’t need your advice. I am in the activism trenches, where I will remain until November. So do keep on attacking. You just may make history—whether you want to or not!

    My snap decision to go to St. Paul has brought me peace and clarity. I am not an opinion peddler, just an intuitive working gal who’s running with her life-nurtured instincts. Indeed, I’m ignoring the latest blogosphere-bred, book-banning charges leveled against the “bible-thumping beauty queen” and going with my non-pregnant gut.

    I loved her! No, I f—kg loved her.

    To put it in perspective, I need to recount that electrifying night in St. Paul, Minnesota. Governor Palin did more than electrify. She turned the Republican-filled Excel Center into a nuclear reactor!

    I arrived fashionably late to the luxury box hosted by former HP diva Carly Fiorina.

    Hmmmm…decent food, cocktails, well dressed peeps, power networking and paparazzi. I had to remind myself of the actual mission. But as I attempted to slip into my observational mode, I was pleasantly bombarded by Republican power babes. Their biz cards say it all: “Republican Women For Choice,” “National Women’s History Museum,” “Women’s Rights For Today.”

    I was clearly a target but found it a welcome shift from my pariah-like status in Denver just a week earlier. And just to be able to dress up again after nearly 6 months of grassroots activism in flip-flops and sweats… well, let’s just say it was a Princess Grace moment sans (coveted) Kelly bag.

    The publicist in me was swooning…was that Cindy Adams of the New York Post?!?

    The activist in me was confounded…wait a minute…isn’t that Greta Van Susteren’s hubby and Clinton fundraiser (and unbeknownst to him, a PUMA) John Coale chatting up a McCain operative?

    The once corporate-ladder-climbin’ power chic in me was freaking out….am I really speaking with Carly Fiorina?

    Indeed, this scene was playing out more like Thomas Keller’s Per Se opening in Manhattan— replete with socialites, gossip columnists and political heavies— certainly not a pre-party for the debut of the moose-hunting, Gortex-donning, D-list governor of Alaska. Then again, these social soirées do love their novelties! And, as the token Hillary Clinton supporter in the box— you might say I was one of those novelties. Hmmm…has my status gotten a bit of a “bounce,” I wondered? Being the smooth-talkin’ PR gal that I think I am, I fearlessly slipped into the suite’s outdoor balcony, oozing myself in a pole-position seat right behind Henry Kissenger— yes that Henry.

    Then… out walked Governor Sarah Palin.

    It was no longer about THEM. It was about HER! She would have it no other way.

    Poised, pretty and smart, she had the grit of Sandra Bullock in Miss Congeniality and the sassy smarts of Geena Davis in ABC’s short-lived series, Commander In Chief, all wrapped into one feisty barracuda package.

    And she didn’t miss a beat.

    We hung on Palin’s every word, as one missile after another flew with perfect timing and impeccable delivery. I surveyed the box to gauge the reaction from the power-coiffed. To my surprise, I spied the ever-polished Lady de Rothschild cheering with reckless abandon as she rose from her seat hooting and hollering. And who could blame her? Pretty soon the entire place was erupting in euphoric glee and laughter. If you thought the “styrofoam greek columns” line translated well on tv…let me tell ya, it brought down the house in person.

    Palin had the touch. She struck something in me that no other candidate, surrogate or pundit has been able to in this entire election cycle.

    Sarah Palin could be any one of us. She knows it. The GOP knows it. The DNC knows it. Obama fears it because he will never be able compete with it.

    Women will not blindly vote for Sarah Palin simply because she is a woman. I mean, can you imagine if 97% of women voted their gender the way African-Americans will likely vote their race? That will not happen, because women will vote with their guts.

    That said, the planets and stars are aligned perfectly for the Alaska Governor. This I know in my gut.

    afterword:

    Another raw measure of the night is my brief text message exchange with Sista Christian Louboutin – I think it sums it up just as effectively as my blogpost:

    PWP: Rudy is funny though…

    SCL: Rudy is a yawnfest ……… OMG – you are in the T-Zone!

    PWP: Huh – u c me?

    SCL: OMG the orange

    PWP: They love her sista…

    SCL: NO the orange cloth things. Hillary support sign………Yes, she’s (Palin’s) a pistol

    PWP: Sorry Sista – I f–king love her

    SCL: Sorry for what? I love her too………Mrs. Palin goes to Washington!!!

    PWP: Homerun “Viagra for the Ticket!”

    SCL: Yep she’s fertile alright! They are going to kill her. Every character assassin in the country will be up her arse by midnight.

    Be advised heels: just because we loved Governor Palin’s debut and speaking prowess, it doesn’t mean that the McCain/Palin ticket has earned our votes. We still have questions and we’re gonna hold all candidates’ feet to the fire until November. (er, but Princess ain’t ever votin’ for senator obama)

    – princess is hailin’ palin’.
    on September 7th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

  118. lil ole grape Says:
    turndownobama… I like it when you talk about the possibility there might be a cleaning out of both parties
    =============

    I don’t know how sincere or successful McCain might be about graft and corruption etc, but Palin did ipretty good agaisnt that in Alsaks!

  119. basil9 Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    The lipstick ad pulled after NBC cried foul at copyright infringement coz of Couric’s excerpt.”

    NBC is FOS…but the McCain campaign got what they wanted so why create a distraction…IMO, the Couric clip falls under “Fair Use”

    Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:
    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

    1.

    the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
    2.

    the nature of the copyrighted work;
    3.

    amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
    4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

  120. gonzotx,

    To avoid the spam trap we usually omit or space out the
    h t t p : / /

    It’s also been acting strange and catching random posters. Keep trying. Save your posts before hitting ‘submit’..

  121. henry Says:
    Finally got a response to my question about write in votes in PA:
    The name filled in on a “write-in” line on a ballot is the name that receives credit for that vote. The vote is not awarded to any individual other than the one whose name was written in.
    ==============

    And if the poll counters are bots?

  122. turndownobama …we’ve all got to do a lot of homework on past records of those in congress and of those who run against them — help re-elect those who pass inspection and help defeat those who don’t… we all have a lot of work to do in the next few years. It’s getting harder and harder for those in office to keep their deals secret — harder and harder for them to hide who they really are. The people have power to do greater good than ever before. The age of information might usher in the age of reformation in many areas.

  123. The “phony outrage” video is up at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/obama-responds-to-phony-outrage/?hp

    The only phony outrage IMHO is that which Dumbass is summoning up for another one of his W.O.R.M. speeches. How fucking stupid do you have to be to believe his “outrage?” I guess I could go to DKos or DU to find out, but I’d rather have a lobotomy.

    Anyhow, Dumbass must not be very smart. He wouldn’t know what a mea culpa was if it jumped up and bit him on his skinny ass. The “outrage” speech was just stupid. He looks indignant and really, let’s be honest, that line is just a bit played out. Much like the Barackroll video posted above.

    And, filbert, my lovely filbert, I’m voting for McCain. I said I would if Hillary wasn’t the nominee after Denver. I will vote for her in 2012 should she choose to run. I believe in having socially progressive and moderate/conservative national security and fiscal policies. She offers that better than any other candidate in recent memory and more than that- she’s abso-fucking-lutely competent and committed to what she does. The O-bots will never get that. They will act like the shrill, lying, baby fuckers they are no matter what. She could gift them with the golden goose and a blow job and they still wouldn’t vote for her.

    They are the unfortunate product of the GOP’s partisanship of the 80’s and 90’s with a healthy helping of Dubya on top.

    I have no allegiance to the GOP. I no longer have any allegiance to the Democrats. I own my own vote and they, and any other person who attacks me for exercising my right to dissent in a huge screw you kind of way, can kiss my bitter, gun toting, typical white ass.

  124. turndownobama
    voting for McCain myself. I was just curious about the policy as i had read several people cautioning that some states allot write in votes differently. Took two weeks to get a reponse and there was no info available on the state website. I was a little insulted at the very curt response from a state employee. No dear sir. No link to official rules. No thankyou for contacting. And no name attached. Things that make you say hmmmm?

  125. South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate ” whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

    Palin is an opponent of abortion rights and gave birth to her fifth child, Trig, earlier this year after finding out during her pregnancy that the baby had Down syndrome.

    Fowler told my colleague Alex Burns in an interview that the selection of an opponent of abortion rights would not boost McCain among many women.

    “Among Democratic women and even among independent women, I don’t think it helped him,” she said.

    Told of McCain’s boost in the new ABC/Washington Post among white women following the Palin pick, Fowler said: “Just anecdotally, I believe that those white women are Republican women anyway.”

  126. From RCP
    This just in: McCain now favored by intrade. It was 70-30 barry a couple of weeks ago. This is truly an astounding turnaround.

    Intrade Political ‘Securities’ Percentage US$ Traded
    John McCain to win 2008 US Presidential Election 50.5% $5.1M
    Barack Obama to win 2008 US Presidential Election 48.2% $3.8M

  127. South Carolina Democratic Party
    1529 Hampton Street, Suite 200
    Columbia, SC 29201

    800-841-1817 (toll free)
    803-799-7798 (local)
    803-765-1692 (fax)

    http://www.scdp.org/

    They even have an 800 number to call….. cool…

  128. skmf12 Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    i’m sure this was posted before from justsaynodeal,
    but i’m reposting k?
    ******************************************

    “Posted on September 7th, 2008 in Princess Wears Prada by hireheels

    ===================

    Ooh, cool, thank you!!!!!! I”m so glad to hear it from hireheels’ demographic! That’s sort of how I feel!

  129. By the way, Rassmussen did this little piece on the New Mexico Senaye race

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/new_mexico/election_2008_new_mexico_senate

    However tucked away in the very last line, trying to hide it and giving no figures, which must mean its bad for bambi

    “In New Mexico’s presidential race, John McCain has pulled ahead of Barack Obama in the first poll since the candidates’ conventions.”

    Why wont they say the figure.

  130. also which i like as good news.

    Governor Bill Richardson earns good or excellent ratings from 45% of voters in New Mexico, while 29% say he is doing a poor job. Those ratings have slipped slightly since last month.

    under 50%, they dont like him either.

  131. I’m leery of hireheels.com. Elizabeth Joyce was on Larry King and sucked rocks. It was like they chose the dumbest Hillary supporter they could find, gave her a stutter, a vapid look in her eyes and some seriously outdated new age style feminism catch phrases to repeat- or stutter.

  132. Can we see BO’s surrogates phony outrage re: the Bill Clinton ‘fairytale’ line? or the phony outrage of one Jim Clyburn to anything that the Clintons said as being racist?

  133. If Kurtz knew that the bikini photo was a fake, then why did he even allow it to be shown on international television?

    This reeks.

  134. McCain, Palin draw large crowd in battleground of Virginia (over 23,000)

    blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/09/10/mccain-palin-draw-large-crowd-in-battleground-of-virginia/

    FAIRFAX, Va. – It was Republican John McCain’s turn on Wednesday to relish the kind rock-star treatment usually associated with his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, in the tightening race for the White House.

    Under burning sunshine at a park in a suburb outside Washington, D.C., McCain and his newly minted running-mate Sarah Palin drew a crowd of approximately 23,000, which his campaign said was his biggest on the presidential trail.

    Campaigns are notorious for inflating crowd estimates. But a McCain’s aide stressed the number was the real thing — provided by a fire marshal no less.

    It could very well be accurate. Supporters by the thousands poured onto the grassy slopes of Fairfax’s Van Dyke Park waving blue and yellow McCain-Palin placards and chanting slogans (“Sarah, Sarah, Sarah” ranks among the loudest). Some chastised the media for “picking on” Palin.

  135. rassmussen sat McCain is in the lead in New Mexico which is great because last month it 41 to 47 for Bambi and Mason dixon had him with a 15 point lead.

    McCain swung round a huge swing. Cant wait til they relase the figures at 5.

  136. Okie:

    Elizabeth Joyce on cnn…that happened during the denver week.
    I heard she was sent in to “tone down” the efforts because some very anti-obama PUMAs were nnot helping hillary there…
    I
    believe she came in on the same day as hillary spoke….

    It was a PR job!!!!

  137. Okay, this is it. I’M DONE. OVER. FINIS. I am voting a straight Republican ticket this year. There is no way all of this stuff is not coordinated – the Democratic Party is on an ORGANIZED campaign to take this woman down by any hateful means necessary. They deserve to go into the political wilderness for 40 years. They DISGUST me.

    They are scum. SC Dem party chair now says Palin’s only qualification is that she didn’t have an abortion.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/SC_Dem_chair_Palin_primary_qualification_is_she_hasnt_had_an_abortion_.html?showall

  138. Not that any of us would want to see Dumbass doing the horizontal mambo, but just in case for all the trolls out there who want to see the Messiah’s St. Peter….

    Warning…

    From the UK computer magazine Webuser: Emails claiming that US presidential candidate Barack Obama was involved in a sex scandal should be treated with caution, security experts have warned.

    The emails claim that Obama had been videoed in a compromising situation and promise to show you the footage if you click on the links contained in the message.

    Though the links do direct you to a sex video, it isn’t Obama involved, according to Sophos. And while the video distracts you, something far more sinister is going on in the background.

    “What appears to be an amateur porn movie is displayed on the computer screen while the malware is doing its dirty work and infecting your Windows PC with spyware,” said Cluley.

  139. Filbert – I am not afraid for Dems to know that HRC supporters will make the difference in defeating O. In fact, if we pull it off, we will have the power in the party, not the insiders and elites.

    Maybe they will not turn to Donna Brazile for advice again. Maybe they will stop using ‘racism’ as an excuse for losing. (They were doing that yesterday again.) Maybe they will see who the people want and go with that. Maybe they will get rid of caucuses and let Democrats vote.

    We have got to stop cowering in front of Obama people. If Obama loses, he will have the same luster as Kerry and Edwards. We will rise again.

  140. mp, it wasn’t a PR job. The press was all over the place talking to everyone from just about every organization. Certain people were chosen to speak to undermine Hillary supporters. I think EJ was one of them. The well-spoken supporters were often left out in the cold by Big Media, but some were actually interviewed by a whole lot of foreign press. Ask Norma about it. She can tell you some serious stories.

  141. Hillary for Texas: That is so disgusting. I am so ashamed of how far the “democratic” party has fallen. So much for new politics. They are behaving worse than the Republicans. 🙁

  142. The latest TIME/CNN numbers:

    Michigan: Obama 49, McCain 45
    Missouri: McCain 50, Obama 45
    New Hampshire: Obama 51, McCain 45
    Virginia: McCain 50, Obama 46

    Dates conducted: September 7-9. Error margin: 3 points.

  143. and lets adjust for the CNN and Time Bias

    Michigan: Obama 49, McCain 49
    Missouri: McCain 52, Obama 43
    New Hampshire: Obama 48, McCain 48
    Virginia: McCain 51, Obama 45

    With CNN you have to add and subtract some yourself to get to the right place.

  144. RCP has NJ and WA in play on their electoral map.

    I want the most current numbers on CA. If that flips, Dumbass will be lucky to break 180. Plus, the numbers on NJ are over a month old….

  145. I am not just blowing smoke here.

    Grrrrrrrrrr, I am still seething over the abort the baby comment. I am so mad I could SPIT or drop-kick some “junk”.
    These people are SICK. Forget the lipstick notes, I may just vomit all over the next DNC mail I receive and send it back.

    I am trying to calm down enough to think whether I should ever vote for ANY of these Democratic fuckers ever again.

    I have a handicapped daughter (cerebral palsy). I have also had an abortion. I have made painful and tough ( but right for me) choices on BOTH sides of this thing, and

    YOU DO NOT FUCKING GO THERE. Ever. I am, as a woman and a mother, about ready to RIP SOME FUCKING HEADS OFF.

    I feel raped right now. I honestly do. You can talk and argue all you want about policy re: choice vs. anti-choice, but you DO NOT attack an individual mother publicly for her decision.

  146. theamericancynic.blogspot.com/2008/08/barack-obama-he-completes-us.html
    Friday, August 29, 2008

    Barack Obama: He Completes Us
    An absolutely classic bit from the Daily Show.

  147. Obama should have said he apologized for anyone who misunderstood his lipstick remark.

    And if he were honest, he should have acknowledged the stupidity of using the phrase. The abysmal, monumental stupidity of his remark.

    He may have been talking about McCain and change – but what was it that allowed McCain to grab the mantle of change????? picking SARAH!
    So any way you slice it, he was talking about Sarah.

  148. texan4hillary Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
    bill launches campaing for obama starting spet 29 in fl.
    thepage

    ———————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    Well, I certainly won’t be watching. I just hope that Bill won’t be bashing Sarah Palin. He will be deeply in horse manure if he pulls that stunt. Frankly, I don’t think the Clintons are doing themselves any favors by stumping for Obama.

    People who are dead set on not voting for Obama (myself included) could care less what the Clintons say. They are out of the running for president. They will only tick off more and more of the Hillary supporters. I wonder do they realize that or only want a democrat in the white house.

    Just like the pundits thought that all the Hillary voter supporters will immediately rally behind Obama, I hope that the Clintons don’t have the notion that all the Obamabots and/or blacks will rally behind them if they “play nice”. They are are dead wrong about this. I said it once and I said it again. Many blacks feel that they don’t owe the Clintons anything.

    I am black, so therefore I can’t be tagged as racist 😉

  149. H4T, I’m with you. I just have to look at the numbers to keep from blowing up. That and booze (but after Saturday’s 10 hour bender, I’m laying off for a few days- liver’s recuperate, right???).

    Anyhow, do what I do when I get so full of rage- go to the driving range. Get a large bucket of balls and swing your club as hard as you can. It helps to imagine the person’s junk as the ball. I’ve improved my distance by almost 30 yds in the last 5 yrs that way.

  150. henry Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
    following an Obama loss who do you think will be the most effective and powerful person in congress?
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Barack Obama.

    (not).

  151. WTH is Bill campaigning for BO! 👿

    BTW, in addition to that SC State DNC chair saaying Palin’s was nominated coz she hasn’t had an abortion 👿
    there are now 3 Dems, Brazile, Cohen and someone elese (forgot who) who have compared BO’s community organizing to Jesus and pointed out Pontius Pilate was a governor.

    WTF!!!!!!! Man this is so sicK!

  152. H4T,

    I understand. I have been feeling like I’ve been violated for months. Sad thing is I’m sure there are several circles of evil below attacking abortion and the handicapped and BO is sure to go there.

    My best to you and your daughter. How old is she?

  153. Indie, you’re soooo not black. No black person would ever say that. Admit it. Your just a middle-aged honky woman with too many cats and a love for knitted socks.

    :mrgreen:

  154. McCain and Palin Hit Northern Virginia

    Like Byron, I’m back from today’s McCain-Palin rally in Fairfax, Virginia (saw NRO’s Mark Hemingway there, too). To his observations, I’d add, there were a lot of women in the crowd, and a surprisingly young crowd as well. There were two separate handmade signs held by women indicating they were former Hillary supporters now backing McCain-Palin, and one of them spoke to the crowd as the rally began. This speaker mentioned the lipstick line, and said that “it was the sort of thing you would see in the fifth grade… and I don’t want a fifth-grader running my country!”

    One person plugged in to the organizers put the crowd at 23,000, but I want to double check that. This account puts it at “more than 10,000.”

    Some coverage is noting Fred Thompson, who warmed up the crowd, for mentioning Jeremiah Wright. But I think a more stinging zinger noted the plethora of Democratic operatives now looking for dirt in Alaska. Thompson said (according to my notes), “The Washington insiders say, ‘we don’t know her. She hasn’t been on the Sunday shows. She hasn’t been on the cover of Time magazine.’ [Obviously, she is this week.] Well, whose fault is that? She ain’t been hidin’ from anybody! … They’ve sent a planeload of folks to Alaska to look into her background. I think they ought to send a planeload of people to Chicago for a few days – they’ve had two years to do it!”

    By the way, while the crowd was enthralled by Palin, it’s worth noting that the crowd did start chanting “John Mc-Cain! John Mc-Cain!” at various points, and not just when he was speaking. So it’s not like he’s the forgotten man in his own campaign.

  155. Turndownobama.com,

    Thank you! You said, “You’re very brave! I can’t even read all those nasty comments. If you’d like to send out alerts whenever you post something, pls send me your email and I’ll subscribe you to PumaResponders.com”

    My email is

    mariaconz@mchsi.com

    Thank you!

  156. I missed a lot of posts and I just went back to read them. birdgal or H4T..whichever one of you is “done’, I’m there with you. Okieatty, I’m with you too.

    I want to hit someone. I belonged to one of the most sexist faiths and then worked in probably THE most sexist industry (outside of mining). I have been offended and reminded of past sexism all year.

    But now I’ve moved on to fury. Discussing Sarah’s choice in the ‘pro-choice’ party is SO beyond the pale that I can’t have anything to do with this fascist mob.

    And, Barack, remember your motto when you reference “a pig”: Words matter.

  157. Why would Bill Clinton start campaigning for O. After what they did to his wife, i don’t understand it. Even what Michelle said, politics or no politics this would draw the line with me. Are they gluttons for punishment? I don’t care how much Bill and Hillary campaigns for O, i will not go to see them. I could never be a politician.

    I as a voter would not believe one word they say. Both of them saying O was not qualified to be president, yet they are campaigning for them lying to the public.

  158. About Biden’s gaffes,
    I still say he’s not a bad guy and he was forced into the VP position.

    Yeah, he’s got a big mouth but most of what he says is never really nasty and malicious like BO’s comments.

    BTW, caller on talk radio agrees with me that the campaign is going to get even more grotesque and sick.

    Also, anyone else catch MO on ellen yesterday doing the brush-the-bytch-off-the-shoulders-dance?

  159. as a voter i would not believe one word they say.

    Yet they are outh there campaiging and lying for him

    Watch out Bill and Hillary

  160. Remember that lovely Survey USA poll that has McCain up 20 in NC, well that poll was done properly.

    PPP dumped a poll out today from NC showing McCain 48 and Obama 44, obviously trying to dumb it down however look at the figures of samples.

    Well that would be because the poll in NC was made up of 49% Democrats, 36% Republicans and 15% independent.

    whiffy figures or what.

  161. Hillaryfortexas:

    I’m so digusted by Carol Fowler’s comment about abortion I could just scream. What daily double. Her husband Don Fowler was the DNC member caught on video laughing about the hurricane hitting New Orleans.

  162. Hi gang,

    As I am the one who brought up Marsha Marsha Marsha Blackburn when she was on FOX, I was ONLY reporting what I was seeing. She is a generally horrible woman IMO and in no way do I endorse or even LIKE her.

  163. On Michael Medved show, Biden said Hillary Clinton may be more qualified than him to be VP, and might have been a better pick than him.

    So is Biden jumping or being pushed? What idiot would say something like this?

  164. Joe Biden: Hillary Clinton More Qualified to Be VP than Me

    On Michael Medved show, Biden said Hillary Clinton may be more qualified than him to be VP, and might have been a better pick than him.

    ————————
    Biden withdrawl clock is ticking!!

    At this stage, I will NOT support an Obama/Clinton ticket, too little, too late.

  165. basil9 Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
    About Biden’s gaffes,
    [SNIP]
    Also, anyone else catch MO on ellen yesterday doing the brush-the-bytch-off-the-shoulders-dance?

    * * * * *
    Yes. Yuck.

  166. foxnews is now reporting…

    SC Democratic Chair: Palin’s Chief Qualification is She ‘Hasn’t Had an Abortion’

  167. On Michael Medved show, Biden said Hillary Clinton may be more qualified than him to be VP, and might have been a better pick than him.

    Wait one fucking second…he’s not as qualified as her to be VP, and yet…he ran against her for POTUS?!

    WTF?! People are losing their minds. Seriously.

  168. moonpluto,

    WTF!!!!!

    When was that? is there a link?

    And I agree with kostner that HRC better NOT be waiting in the wings to save the day!!!!

  169. basil i just saw it over on freerepublic whil i was sniffing, they think he’s laying the groundwork for pulling, is this why Bill is now suddenly getting involved, i hope the fuck not, this would backfire bigtime.

  170. Moon and Kos, it’s Biden backing away from a ticking time bomb with his hands in front of him saying, “Um, I think I’m in the wrong place. Hmmm. Look at the time.”

    Biden isn’t wasting his cred on this BS. Like I said last night- I’d bet a steak dinner at Del Friscos that he was pushed into this. He’ll say the Dem line but he is not and should not be held responsible for Dumbass’ implosion. If Dumbass could lead, the Bots and surrogates would have STFU already. This “abortion” comment and from a Southern woman at that will hurt for a long time to come with Indie, pro-choice women.

  171. OkieAtty, I just don’t want them to get mixed up in O’s mess. If Hillary and Bill say something they don’t like they will start blaming them for O’s loss.

    Bill and Hillary are two great people. I love them too much so see them campaigning for this monster.

    The second post i was correcting i hit the submit button too soon.

    Sorry about that

  172. Basil, Moon, Neeta, Okie: I hope that this is a false rumor, too.

    Here’s more change you can xerox, courtesy of BMerry at The Real Barack Obama. I though it was interesting in light of the bruhaha over the words that followed.
    * * * * *
    Klein: Obama plagiarized from Washington Post? Comments in lipstick speech almost word-for-word copy of political cartoon

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/klein-obama-plagiarized-from-washington-post-comments-in-lipstick-speech-almost-word-for-word-copy-of-political-cartoon/

  173. embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-been-better-vp-pick/

    September 10th, 2008 4:26 PM Eastern
    Biden on Hillary: May Have Been Better VP Pick by Aaron Bruns

    NASHUA, NH — Joe Biden defended Hillary Clinton at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, telling the crowd that the New York Senator would have made an excellent Vice Presidential pick for Barack Obama.

    “Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be Vice President of the United States of America,” he said to one man who said he was pleased that Obama chose Biden over the former First Lady because of “the things she’s done in the past.”

    Biden, who told the crowd at a Boston fundraiser this morning that he’d refused Obama’s request for help during his primary battle with Hillary because of his long friendship with her, disagreed with the Clinton criticism.

    “Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me,” he said with a grin. “I mean that sincerely. She is first rate. So lets get that straight.”

  174. Idunn Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    I will absolutely blow a gasket if Biden withdraws and HRC steps in to save the day!

    NEVER, EVER WILL I VOTE FOR A O/C TICKET

    I am beginning to believe the DNC is losing their mind/or Palin has really gotten under their skin

  175. If HRC steps in to save the day, I will hape to wait and see. For one thing, I think it would make laughing stocks of the DNC and Obama. For another, I would assume that Hillary would demand some big assurances/payback for doing so. And finally, if the DNC did manage to somehow win in November, at least I would know that HRC would be there to save the day and build her reputation to be the next potus or the one after.

  176. shame on ANYONE, who knows what obama is, and tries to sell him to us…

    sorry, that’s the truth as i see it, i wont lie cause people will be mad at me for saying it!

  177. OkieAtty Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
    Moon, 49% dems in NC????
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Maybe, ahem, it’s “all those excited new Dem voters in NC”…

    Yeah, i don’t buy it either.

    Obama: “We’ll take Oklahoma, we’ll get NC, we’ll get Georgia…”

    Keep dreaming.

  178. This is not coincidence guys, BC agreeing to campaign for Obama and Biden saying this, this is not something you say, So Biden says he is not the best qualified for Vice President, this is huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  179. I for one hold Senator Clinton in great esteem, but this is bigger than her. Her replacing biden would not erase the misogony and fraud of the DNC. Obama is unfit. Period. Under no circumstances will he get my vote.

  180. Okay, stop all the fussing, you worrywarts.

    1. Down ticket Dems aren’t so hot right now. Chances are Bill’s trying to shore them up and create lasting relationships for 2012.

    2. He’ll stand by the party, pay lip service (and before Idunn says something not Larry Sinclair style) to Dumbass.

    3. The party is severely fractured and it must be fixed. FL has more EV’s than other Southern states and it’s a logical place to start. Plus, given the volatility of Cuba right now with all the hurricanes, the GOP controlled legislature and the work Norma and FDRJim and others have done- there’s a way to fix it so long as a real diplomat goes in…. Southern style.

    4. Biden is the anti-Dumbass right now. He has to try and placate white women voters who are leaving the Dem party in droves. Saying something nice (and true) about Hillary does not mean he’s out of the race as VP, and NO, Hillary will not be on the ballot in November.

  181. OkieAtty Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
    Moon and Kos, it’s Biden backing away from a ticking time bomb with his hands in front of him saying, “Um, I think I’m in the wrong place. Hmmm. Look at the time.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Biden will have to come up with something more original than “I have decided to spend more time with my family”. Here are a couple of options:

    “I have come down with a disease that affects many other Americans: Obama Fatigue Syndrome”

    “My left leg is kinda twingy”.

    “I realized that as the vice presidential nominee, I wouldn’t get to talk as much as the presidential nominee”.

    “Oops. When responding to Obama, I pressed the wrong button. Really sorry about that”.

  182. Basil, I like Joe, too. I feel badly for him at the moment. He’s caught up in this BS and he’s better than that. He’s also independent minded. How much you want o bet the control freaks in Camp Dumbass are sitting on him hard (no pun intended).

  183. This would really make O look like a fool, if Hillary takes Bidens place. (Which i doubt) unless they hold a gun to her head.

    Then we can truly say this man is not presidential material.

    Go back to being a community organizer.

  184. article on Biden that Moononpluto posted:

    Biden, who told the crowd at a Boston fundraiser this morning that he’d refused Obama’s request for help during his primary battle with Hillary because of his long friendship with her, disagreed with the Clinton criticism.

    “Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me,” he said with a grin. “I mean that sincerely. She is first rate. So lets get that straight.”

    ****
    WOW. Well, you have to hand it to Biden for the straight talk express here…I still like the guy, I don’t fault him for being BO’s choice – I fault BO and the corrupt DNC for taking us down sh*t creek without a paddle.

  185. # Idunn Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    I will absolutely blow a gasket if Biden withdraws and HRC steps in to save the day!
    —————————

    I told my husband about a week or so ago, to watch for Obama to dig up something on Biden so he will have to withdraw and then to bring Hillary in. My husband thought that bordered on too much of conspiracy. Why is Biden saying things like that now? Is it just to appease Hillary supporters, women? or is it more nefarious than that?

    How can we convey to the Clintons that we won’t stay with them if they went out of their way to save this guy? Maybe Admin could relay that for us.

  186. OkieAtty Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
    Okay, stop all the fussing, you worrywarts.

    1. Down ticket Dems aren’t so hot right now. Chances are Bill’s trying to shore them up and create lasting relationships for 2012.

    2. He’ll stand by the party, pay lip service (and before Idunn says something not Larry Sinclair style) to Dumbass.

    3. The party is severely fractured and it must be fixed. FL has more EV’s than other Southern states and it’s a logical place to start. Plus, given the volatility of Cuba right now with all the hurricanes, the GOP controlled legislature and the work Norma and FDRJim and others have done- there’s a way to fix it so long as a real diplomat goes in…. Southern style.

    4. Biden is the anti-Dumbass right now. He has to try and placate white women voters who are leaving the Dem party in droves. Saying something nice (and true) about Hillary does not mean he’s out of the race as VP, and NO, Hillary will not be on the ballot in November.———————————————————————————————————————

    I definitely agree with your #4. Biden is just trying to get the women’s vote IMHO.

    Here are some thoughts from another site that pretty much says what I am feeling:

    1. IF she helps OBAMA it will be the beginning of the end for her Nationally

    1.I as a voter would not believe one word they say. Both of them saying O was not qualified to be president, yet they are campaigning for them lying to the public.

    2. I will absolutely blow a gasket if Biden withdraws and HRC steps in to save the day!

    3. Hillary can kiss any chance of running in 2012, goodbye.
    She allowed Obama to make a mockery of her.
    She also ridiculed him and acknowledged his lack of preparation to become president.
    For them to put on a charade, to trick people into thinking they actually like and respect one another, is not only just plain laughable, but it only further proves that they are only in it to win.
    Obama will actually lose more votes, due to this.

    4. Hillary ran such a protracted and bitter campaign against Obama I think anything she had to say for him at this point would come off as disingenuous

    5. Is Hillary lying now about Obama while stumping for him or was she llying during the primaries when she said that Obama was unelectable?

    I think that she will get some backlash from this and hurt her crediblity. Same for Bill, but of course he’s not in politics.

  187. I bet Bill is leaning on Dumbass about retiring the debt and passing that stalled bill on donation use. Hill has to get rid of that debt ASAP. In return, Dumbass will have to find something to do when he loses this election (bc the writing is on the wall to everyone).

  188. well you know okie,

    this kinda crap, is going to infuriate some of hillarys supporters, why is pandering for anyones vote?
    frankly, i’m getting a little happy that we have palin as an alternative… everyone in the democratic party is disappointing me lately!
    ******************************************

    By Zenitha Prince, Contributing Writer
    September 8, 2008

    DENVER (Special to the NNPA from the Afro-American Newspapers) – In his speech before the Democratic Convention, former President Bill Clinton immediately squashed any doubts about his unwillingness to support his wife’s former rival.

    “I am here, first, to support Barack Obama,” Clinton declared. “Last night, Hillary told us in no uncertain terms that she’ll do everything she can to elect Barack. That makes the two of us.”

    Appealing to Sen. Clinton’s supporters, he skillfully added, “Actually, that makes 18 million of us-because, like Hillary, I want all of you who supported her to vote for Barack Obama in November.”

    Bill Clinton remains extremely popular among Democrats. That was clearly evident Aug. 27 when the flag-waving crowd enthusiastically welcomed him with sustained applause, forcing him to delay his speech until the applause subsided. In the weeks leading up to the convention, there was doubt about how enthusiastic Clinton might endorse Obama, if at all.

    But those doubts evaporated as Clinton delivered a powerful message to a powerful constituency.

    “Barack Obama is ready to lead America and restore American leadership in the world,” he said. “Ready to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Barack Obama is ready to be the president of the United States.”

    Even though Hillary Clinton supporters had been clamoring for her to be selected as Obama vice presidential running mate, Bill Clinton praised Obama decision to pick Senator Joe Biden of Delaware. The former president said, “And in his first presidential decision, the selection of a running mate, he hit it out of the park.”

    Maryland state Sen. Verna Jones, D-Baltimore, said this was as big an opportunity for Clinton as it was for Obama.

    “I think this was an opportunity for him to make amends for areas that he hasn’t been diplomatic about in the past few months and an opportunity for him to show what a good soldier he is,” she said.

    And as only Clinton can, he connected with his adoring audience.

    “Look at the example the Republicans have set: …declining wages, less than one-fourth as many new jobs as in the previous eight years, smaller health care benefits, rising poverty…war on unions and unlimited favors for the well connected…Katrina and cronyism,” Clinton said. “America can do better than that and Obama will do better than that.”

    Ronald Walters, a political science professor at the University of Maryland, said Clinton did a “masterful” job of suppressing any leftover bitterness, using his cache as a popular president to promote Obama and essentially passing on the baton to a new generation of Democratic leadership. “He did a good job by comparing Barack Obama to himself as a young man when people said he couldn’t govern and yet he went on to lead this country to a time of great prosperity.”

    In a rallying call to action Clinton said: “Together we prevailed in a campaign in which the Republicans said I was too young and too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief. Sound familiar?” he said. “It didn’t work in 1992 because we were on the right side of history. And it will not work in 2008 because Barack Obama is on the right side of history.”

    Clinton’s unflinching support [of Obama] also went a long way towards healing the breach between the former president and the African-American community.

    Paul Moreno, a delegate from Texas, who just a day before had added his motorized scooter to the hundreds of feet that marched in support of Sen. Clinton, said the president could not have done a better job.

    “His words comforted us that we were on the road to victory with a good man,” Moreno said. “I know he was hurting but he knows a Democrat is better than a Republican any time.”

    Clinton’s unflinching support also went a long way towards healing the breach between the former president and the African-American community, who turned away from the campaign after he made comments many interpreted as racist and belittling. Actor Wendell Pierce, known for his role on HBO’s crime drama, “The Wire,” said for Clinton to regain the trust of the Black community, “he needs to do everything in his power to help Barack Obama become president.” If he didn’t, and if the recalcitrance of Clinton supporters resulted in Obama’s loss come November, Pierce added, “I’ll lead the march of African Americans away from this party because we have been loyal members of the Democratic Party for decades, even when we weren’t wanted.”

    Betty Cleckley, an Obama delegate from Huntington, W.V., said she had needed to hear and see that show of support from President Clinton. “The relationship was greatly damaged,” said Cleckley, referring to the ties between African Americans and the man once considered as the country’s “first Black president.” “And I was concerned about if they could really support Barack Obama. Now, I don’t have a question any longer.”

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  189. Sorry, I did not read Okie’s note above. Her point number 4 is well worth paying attention to. Let us hope that is all there is to it for Biden’s latest comments.
    ————–
    4. Biden is the anti-Dumbass right now. He has to try and placate white women voters who are leaving the Dem party in droves. Saying something nice (and true) about Hillary does not mean he’s out of the race as VP, and NO, Hillary will not be on the ballot in November.

  190. What Biden says is a huge problem, he has just undermined his own campaign and Obama’s campaign, if Biden says he’s not the best person and Obama picked him saying, he was the best person to be VP, then there is a massive huge problem here.

    One of them is going to have to explain this, this is a huge gaffe on a mother scale.

    Credibility is out the window. Cue this being an ad for McCain.

  191. skmf12 Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
    well you know okie,

    this kinda crap, is going to infuriate some of hillarys supporters, why is pandering for anyones vote?
    frankly, i’m getting a little happy that we have palin as an alternative… everyone in the democratic party is disappointing me lately!

    birdgal Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
    Even if Hillary was placed on the ticket, the dems would still lose.

    skmf12 and birdgal:

    I agree with both of you immensely!!! Hillary and Bill are dooming themselves just to get a democrat in the party. I am glad to see Sarah Palin as an alternative too.

  192. It underlines what everyone was saying Obama picked a VP for revenge on Hillary and Biden just threw a bomb at Obama.

    This is big trouble.

  193. OhmiGAWD, you all,

    I’m famous!! Ann Coulter picked up my story, “Why I’ve left the Democrats,” on her website!!

    http://www.anncoulter.com/

    It’s on the right-hand side under “Quotations from Chairman Ann”!!!

    Thank you, all of you, admin, everybody, for giving me a place to come where I could find solace and refuge when the Dems and the Obamabots were going after me on my blog and my newspaper column!! This has been my safe place for months!!

  194. Steve Cohen is the guy that compared Hillary to glenn close in fatal attraction and he is white and wanted to join the black caucus, he is a messed up motherf***er.

  195. I just don’t get it. the axlerod/obama/brazille machine was capable enough to take Hillary down (albeit by cheating) but now they can’t go a day without severe blunders. It is just freaking surreal.

  196. It’s not pandering- he’s trying to keep Dems together for the long haul. Dumbass will lose his own election, but if Bill and Hillary aren’t there helping the party, there will be no party to run for by 2012.

    Quit saying it’s pandering. It’s necessity. They care about Dem issues. The party is just run by DINO’s right now. They’re trying to save it, even when that means helping Dumbass.

  197. pm317 –
    hmmm, Biden is pretty explicit…I mean it’s one thing to praise Hillary Clinton, say she would’ve been a great VP, but to say, she is a “better VP choice than me”…that’s going pretty far.

    if the DNC and the Clintons somehow agree that Hillary will be on the ticket – how transparent is that? it only makes the Dems look more stupid than they look now…and not only that, it means she’s been brought in as the “cleaner” to sort this mess out for the Dems…which puts more burden on her…how much can people expect from one person.

  198. # moononpluto Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    What Biden says is a huge problem, he has just undermined his own campaign and Obama’s campaign, if Biden says he’s not the best person and Obama picked him saying, he was the best person to be VP, then there is a massive huge problem here.

    One of them is going to have to explain this, this is a huge gaffe on a mother scale.

    Credibility is out the window. Cue this being an ad for McCain.
    ******
    maybe the Dems are just trying to scare Repubs into thinking they’ll put Hillary on the ticket???

  199. Out of curiosity would anyone here consider voting for nobama/Clinton ticket?

    I wouldn’t have before the Palin pick. I doubt I would after the Palin pick. But I’d seriously have to weight that very carefully in my mind.

    I dunno.

  200. # moononpluto Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    What Biden says is a huge problem, he has just undermined his own campaign and Obama’s campaign, if Biden says he’s not the best person and Obama picked him saying, he was the best person to be VP, then there is a massive huge problem here.

    One of them is going to have to explain this, this is a huge gaffe on a mother scale.

    Credibility is out the window. Cue this being an ad for McCain.

    No. Biden and McCain are friends. Biden is saving his credibility by being a- get this- maverick. DING! DING!

    Seriously, get this BS story of Hillary being brought in or the other BS story she is pandering out of your heads.

    It’s now about saving the party and the down ticket Dems.

    Come on, people! Use your noggins. And don’t dare slander the Clintons. You don’t want to be on my bad side.

  201. I can see it now, VP Debate.

    sarah Palin hitting Biden between the eyes with “you don’t even think this job should be yours, you said Hillary was a much better option, does that mean you don’t believe you can do the job”

  202. I wouldn’t vote for a Obama/Clinton then…and I surely won’t be voting for one now. Especially after that sham of a convention. Nope. Too bad. McCain.

  203. Idunn, I wouldn’t vote for him with Hillary on the ticket. I’d even have to think long and hard if she were at the top and he was #2. Even then, probably not bc he’d be Spiro friggin’ Agnew.

  204. Hillary accepting a veep spot would evoke images of a battered woman returning to her husband because he said he was sorry and bought her flowers saying he couldn’t live without her. Her body and spirit are temporarily broken and hearing that she is needed is balm to her brutlaized soul. But don’t forget that moment of forced humility only adds to the contempt that the abuser continues to foster.

    God Okie I pray you are right. The thought sickens me.

  205. Henry, who you shittin’? She ain’t going to be VP to no one. She’s going to be president.

    She has too much good will built up and too many “I told you so’s” and IOU’s out there now. She’ll cash her chits in and fix the party along the way. I just hope as she does it, she borrows Dumbass’ bus and runs over Howie, Nancy, DB Pooper, Reid, Axelrod, PSD and Trippi along the way. Maybe twice for DB Pooper. :mrgreen:

  206. It would just be harder for me to pick the McCain/ Palin ticket and deny HRC her rightful place in history.

    But…I would. I’d have to, I think. I just couldn’t make myself vote for Oliar.

  207. Anyone else think Maybe Biden is crying, i really don’t want to be on this ticket, please sack me, whatever because no matter what way i think, none of what or why he said it makes sense.

    Is he sabotaging himself, maybe he was forced and now he’s forcing himself off?

  208. # OkieAtty Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
    It’s not pandering- he’s trying to keep Dems together for the long haul. Dumbass will lose his own election, but if Bill and Hillary aren’t there helping the party, there will be no party to run for by 2012.
    Quit saying it’s pandering. It’s necessity. They care about Dem issues. The party is just run by DINO’s right now. They’re trying to save it, even when that means helping Dumbass.

    Every time that an e-mail from a down ticket Dem that I am supporting, saying how great Bambi is; I just keep telling myself; “Remember Babies and bathwater..Babies and bathwater.”

  209. why doesn’t biden just claim he was tipsy when bambi asked. waffles said how’d you like to be vp and he heard how’d you like a V.O.

  210. Reminds me of a joke.

    Axelrod: Barack, jesus christ! You HAVE to pick someone, okay? You HAVE to! Either you pick a vp right his second or I’m leaving and I’m never coming back!!

    Obama: Okay, bye den.

  211. This is the first campaign i have not volunteered at a campaign headquarter. I can’t bring myself to volunteer at McCains headquarters. I will vote for him, i just can’t campaign for McCain.

  212. Struggling with what to do about down ticket. Those that rec’d money from er er um and pelosi. I am tempted to vote against, but a dem controlled congress with McCain as the executive is very palatable.

  213. Idunn
    you funny
    by the way asking this again anyone else get the 68 days and counting plea from the dnc? I am curious as I’d like to know if anyone else’s stunk. I opened the thing and was sickenned. Think it was the enclosed bumper sticker. Really bad. Had to put it in the drawer til I have the chance to buy some lipstick and plant a big kiss right next to a big zero.
    Mother of god the dnc has driven me to putting on lipstick to have my voice heard.

  214. the dems are f*cked up!

    i will have to think real hard about voting em in down ticket… just cause i have democratic ideals, doesnt mean i will vote in someone just cause they are a card carrying member… i think WE ALL MADE A MISTAKE, of blindly supporting our party. i wont do it again… republicans were right, we are the holier than thou party…

  215. Anybody seen GeekLove. I so look forward to her greatest gaffes collection. Somebody told me she was exasperated. I hope she is rejuvinated.

  216. Kool-Aid must be neuro-toxic. The ‘bots are bat-shit crazy.

    “South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate ” whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

  217. Holy Shit, to this

    Hold onto your hats

    http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=8987460

    McCain, Obama Neck and Neck in Wisconsin,

    Within MOE Obama 46 to McCain 43

    The latest polling numbers in Wisconsin out Wednesday show John McCain and Barack Obama are neck and neck.

    The survey from the Public Relations Group Strategic Vision interviewed 800 likely voters in Wisconsin from September 5th through the 7th.

    The main question was, “If the election for president were held today would you support the Democratic ticket or the Republican ticket?”

    46 percent said they would vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden, while 43 percent would vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

    Eight percent said they were still undecided.

    But McCain appears to be leading in two of the major issues in this election.

    For the question “Which candidate would better handle the economy?” 48 percent said McCain while 41 percent said Obama.

    And when they were asked which candidate would best handle the war in Iraq, 45 percent said McCain while 43 percent said Obama.

  218. (The Politico) This story was written by Glenn Thrush and Martin Kady II.
    Republican Rep. Candice S. Miller says Barack Obama had only one shot at Palin-proofing the Democratic ticket – and he missed it when he passed over Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

    “Every woman in America knows what Barack Obama did to Hillary Clinton: He looked at her and thought, ‘There’s no way I’m doing that,’” said Miller. “If Hillary was on the ticket, he’d be in a much better position to win women voters.”

    Sarah Palin’s presence – coupled with Clinton’s absence – may be altering one of the great verities of American politics: that women voters overwhelmingly favor Democrats.

    A Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week showed white women swinging hard against the Democratic ticket. Obama left Denver with an 8-point lead among white women; by the time John McCain pulled out of St. Paul, Minn., with Palin at his side, he had taken a 12-point lead.

    Former Clinton strategist and pollster Mark Penn on Tuesday said that it’s too soon to know where women will wind up in November, and he declined to engage in any “woulda, coulda, shoulda” speculation about how things might be different if Clinton were on the Democratic ticket.

    But another former Clinton adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the “Obama people have got to be kicking themselves” for not putting/choosing Clinton as his No. 2.

    Julia Piscitelli of the American University’s Women and Politics Institute agreed.

    “I don’t think Palin would be seeing these kind of gains if Hillary was on the ticket,” she said. “When Obama picked Biden, it gave Republicans an opening, and they are taking full advantage of it. … The question is: How long will it last?”

    The answer, some Democrats say, is not long.

    “I don’t think this is a real swing [in the polls] until it’s been a week, said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of Obama’s busiest female surrogates. “We’ll need to see whether Sarah Palin is willing to answer questions. … No one will be a stronger advocate for Barack Obama and Joe Biden than Hillary Clinton.”

    Sen. Blanche L. Lincoln (D-Ark.) also sounded the Palin-will-wilt-in-the-spotlight theme.

    “Sarah Palin delivered a great speech, but we haven’t heard anything else about what she’s going to do,” Lincoln said. “American women are smart, they’re bright and this election isn’t just about Sarah Palin. This is about what they want to do for the country.”

    The Obama campaign has denied that it has a serious problem with female voters.

    On Monday, campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, “Your poll is wrong,” adding, “We certainly are not seeing any movement like that. Polls, time to time, particularly on the demographic stuff, can have some pretty wild swings.”

    That view won support from two unlikely sources Tuesday: Penn and a Republican senator who backs the McCain-Palin ticket.

    Penn said that women are going to be “the absolute swing vote in this campaign, and it’s not clear which direction they are going to go in.

    “I don’t think it’s a Hillary backlash we’re seeing,” he added. “With Palin on the ticket, we’re going to be seeing this thing swing back and forth.”

    Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), who has had a strained relationship with her state’s governor, downplayed Palin’s power. “I find it difficult to believe that many of the Hillary supporters are going to come over just because of Sarah Palin,” Murkowski said. “It should be about strength of positions” and policy.

    But Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is locked in a tough race of her own, says several women – former Clinton supporters – have come up to her in Maine to say Palin gives them a reason to back McCain.

    “I have never seen such excitement in the Republican Party as we’re seeing in response to Sarah Palin,” Collins said. “I’ve had a lot of Democrats and independent women in Maine who say they’re happy to see a woman on the ticket. Many of them saw an Obama-Clinton ticket as unbeatable. … That is significant and remarkable.”

    Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Assistant Director Peter A. Brown said the Obama campaign is fooling itself if it discounts the importance of the problem. “This isn’t about Hillary; it’s about Obama’s problem with white women voters,” he said. “Hillary won about 10 million votes from women voters in the Democratic primaries – there are 52 million women voting in the general election.”

    Clinton has said she’ll hit the road for Obama, but her team says she refuses to be an anti-Palin “attack dog.” Further complicating matters for Obama, Hillaryland fundraiser Susie Tompkins Buell is leading a group that will fight media sexism against the Alaska governor.

    By Glenn Thrush and Martin Kady II
    Copyright 2008 POLITICO

  219. # shenanigans Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Here’s the Biden video speaking of HRC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVy2yh28eig


    ———————–

    Moon is right. At a minimum, it is a gaffe and does not reflect well on Obama. Biden even paused before he said Hillary would have been a better choice as if he was not sure he should say that (and in true Biden fashion, he went ahead and said it.)

  220. Obama on Letterman: Palin is lipstick, McCain policies are pig

    Amie Parnes reports that Obama just taped this evening’s show with David Letterman, which touched at length on the McCain campaign’s accusations that he’d spoken disrespectfully about Sarah Palin.

    “Keep in mind, that technically had I meant it this way she would be the lipstick,” Obama said. “The policies of John McCain would be the pig.”

    A partial transcript:

    LETTERMAN: Let me ask you a question here, have you ever actually put lipstick on pig?

    OBAMA: The answer would be no. But I think it might be fun to try …. This is sorta silly season in politics. Not that there’s a non silly season but it gets sillier . It’s a common expression in at least illinois. I don’t know about in New York City. I don’t know what you put lipstick on here. (Silly cringe from Letterman. Laughter from audience) In Illinois, The expression connotes the idea that if you have a bad idea — in this case I was talking about McCain’s economic plans — calling them ‘change,’ calling them something different doesn’t make them better. Hence lipstick on a pig is still a pig.

    He then added that Palin represented the lipstick in the picture, with McCain’s policies as the pig.

    Letterman asked what Obama and the campaign thought of Palin when she was picked: “We didn’t know much about her. Honestly, she’s a skilled politician.”

    “There’s no doubt that she has been a phenomenon,” Obama continued. “I mean, as somebody who used to be on the cover of Time and Newsweek — those were the days, I had a recent offer with Popular Mechanics, centerfold with a wrench,” he said to laughter. “Look, she’s on wild ride and there’s no doubt that she has energized the base. ”

    Obama also talked about his plans to visit Kenya if he’s elected, about his life in Hawaii, and about his grandmother.

  221. From NBC’s Ken Strickland
    At a Capitol Hill news conference today, Hillary Clinton defended Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment, accusing McCain of using the controversy to distract from substantive issues in the campaign.

    “Barack has made this clear,” she said responding to a question about the lipstick remark, which Republicans have condemned as a “disgraceful” and “sexist” attack on Palin. “It was no way meant as an affront.”

    During the press conference, which addressed equal pay for women, Clinton added that “Republicans need to lift up the dialogue” and blamed McCain’s campaign for trying to “divert attention away from challenges facing Americans.”

    But, even given the opportunity through repeated questions from reporters, the woman who won “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” continued to refuse to attack or criticize Palin.

    Asked about Palin and her candidacy, Clinton responded only that the campaign should be about the issues. “What I see as critical in this election … are the differences over issues.” She added, “What happens in people’s lives is what really counts… That’s what it should be about.”

    Clinton and fellow Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin held the press conference to discuss the findings of a new GAO report on the enforcement of anti-discrimination laws. When asked if Clinton was disappointed that Palin had not raised equal pay issues on the campaign trail, she directed her fire at McCain. Clinton said it is assumed that the VP nominee is in sync with the presidential candidate’s views, reminding reporters John McCain voted against it. “McCain is at the top of the ticket,” she said. “And we know where he stands on equal pay.”

    The former Democratic presidential candidate told reporters that she’ll soon return to the campaign trail to stump for the Obama-Biden ticket, “working very hard to make the case for Sen. Obama … being as forceful as I can to lay out the contrast” between the two camps.

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/10/1375540.aspx

  222. LOL…this is going to be another of those times when Obama comes up with six different excuses for this before all is said and done. Definitely signs of a pathological liar.

  223. rgb44 Your Biden excuses were really really funny. You should post those everywhere.

    And ……….Illinois, Great line. The one who didn’t say No.

    Biden didn’t want to make the mistake McCain did when an audience member called HRC a bitch. He said nothing. I believe Biden has recognized from the start that Dems have to steer clear of sexist remarks and need the Hillvoters back. It’s too late but he has to try.

  224. henry Says:
    Struggling with what to do about down ticket. Those that rec’d money from er er um and pelosi. I am tempted to vote against, but a dem controlled congress with McCain as the executive is very palatable
    =========

    We’ve got two months to decide. See what things look like then. Someone will be putting out lists of who supported who and other factors, I’m sure.

    One factor might be, who is signing up with Heidi’s movement for HIllary for Senate Majority Leader this year. Doesn’t have to be Senators, any candidate can sign to show support.

  225. Op-Ed Columnist
    From the Gut
    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
    Published: September 9, 2008

    If John McCain can win this election race with a 50-pound ball called “George W. Bush” wrapped around one ankle and a 50-pound ball called “The U.S. Economy” wrapped around the other, then he deserves to represent America in the next Olympics in any race he wants — swimming, cycling or track — I don’t care how old he is. He would be the Michael Phelps of politics.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/opinion/10friedman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

  226. when it comes to racism, sexism or any other ism…. no matter how small or innocent a comment may seem..it is unacceptable

    had the democratic party nipped this in the bud during the primaries, we would not have this issue spread centerfold in our news today.

    frankly I’d like to know what they plan to do on the issues

    don’t tell me what I WANT to hear…tell me the truth

    tell me how you’re gonna trim gov spending and make the corporations that do business in the USA that don’t pay tax (now at 66% that don’t) carry their share of the burden in our country.

    tell me how you’re gonna stop bailing out (with our tax dollars) companies that don’t know how to manage themselves.

    tell me when you will stop giving breaks to corporations that ship our jobs overseas

    tell me how you’ll rein in wall street and their reckless speculations.

    these are a few of my favorite things…address these please

    ok my rant is done

  227. Obama’s tale on Letterman is actually close to the truth. He was complaining about McC’s use of the word ‘change’.

    I think he was trying to say “How dare McC pretend to be a change agent when he has the same old policies. They are and were a pig. And just because he picked a woman, it doesn’t change the message.”

    He decided it was clever to denigrate the VP pick by calling her just lipstick. He expected the reaction of his audience who got the dig. Unfortunately for him, the media reaction was stunned and many women’s gut feeling was nausea and the media hasn’t stopped talking about it. Since noon, I haven’t seen a show that hasn’t opened with the topic.

    Chris Matthews’ screaming and ranting at his guests for even hinting that this was a sexist remark simply showed his exasperation that O had brought this on himself and replaced Matthews’ leg tingle with a cramp.

    Way to go, Obama!

  228. Wolf Blitzer had Hillary Rosen on who stated it was a fact that Sarah had cut special needs children’s funds by 60%.

    I understand that she increased it dramatically. Wolf just said “I hadn’t heard that.” He should have. They made that charge last week and it was debunked by AC360.

    Let’s point this out to Wolf.

  229. Downticket is easy for me.

    My state and my congressional district voted overwhelmingly for Clinton. I contacted John Kerry and informed his office that because he went against the wishes of the state I would vote against him in every election until he is gone from office.

    I had several conversations with Rep. Tierney’s office asking when he would be endorsing Sen. Clinton. All I got was mumbo jumbo about walking arm and arm in November. I reminded them about the wishes of the voters in his district and informed him that I would be voting against him until he is out of office.

  230. turndownobama-com Says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
    birdgal,

    FactCheck.org debunks just about everything
    —————————————————————————————————

    Thanks turndown. That is where I found the information that I was looking for. I’ll check the other sources. I received an e-mail from someone who was circulating the supposed banned book list, and I wanted to give him the correct information.

  231. Had to stop in to check if you guys saw this, about BO lifting his entire remarks about lipstick on a pig from a political cartoon, word-for-word.

    Unbelievable, but then it isn’t, right? The pseudo-candidacy continues, the media coverup will almost certainly continue.

    From Newsbusters;

    The folks at FreeRepublic have found an interesting… uh, shall we say coincidence… concerning Barack Obama’s widely panned September 9 comments made at a rally in Virginia where he seemed to be saying that Governor Palin was a “pig” by referencing the “lipstick” quote from her acceptance speech at the GOP convention. It is looking like Obama’s comments were not off the cuff, but scripted. And, not only were they scripted, but they were stolen without attribution from a Washington Post political cartoon by Tom Toles from September 5. Will the media notice?

    Obama tried to quip that “you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig” when attacking the McCain/Palin record. But the entire segment, including the previous comments leading up to the insensitive “pig” line, are almost word for word from the Tom Toles cartoon from September 5.

  232. Stinking fish??? One of Obama’s earmarks:
    (snip)
    Wow a $2 million dollar earmark for a foundation that has on the board of directors, Obama’s campaign lawyer and Rezko’s benefactors too. Yea, but law firms are above reproach….right?
    Quote:
    In January 2008, the judge was informed that Auchi was funneling money through foreign banks via the Chicago law firm of Freeborn & Peters, to fund Rezko’s legal defense and she revoked his bond. “Through records from Northern Trust Bank,” prosecutors wrote, “the government has learned there was an approximately $3.5 million wire transfer in April 2007.” Northern Trust being the same entity holding the Land Trust for Obama‘s mansion.

    http://www.ballot.com/hotwire/27037-obama-earmark-for-rezko.htm

  233. Stinking fish??? One of Obama’s earmarks:
    (snip)
    Wow a $2 million dollar earmark for a foundation that has on the board of directors, Obama’s campaign lawyer and Rezko’s benefactors too. Yea, but law firms are above reproach….right?
    Quote:
    In January 2008, the judge was informed that Auchi was funneling money through foreign banks via the Chicago law firm of Freeborn & Peters, to fund Rezko’s legal defense and she revoked his bond. “Through records from Northern Trust Bank,” prosecutors wrote, “the government has learned there was an approximately $3.5 million wire transfer in April 2007.” Northern Trust being the same entity holding the Land Trust for Obama‘s mansion.

    w.ballot.com/hotwire/27037-obama-earmark-for-rezko.htm

  234. Susan at NQ has the Tom Tole’s cartoon and unfortunately the pig line is all Obama’s. It was not in the cartoon. (If it was he could have blamed it on the cartoonist.)

  235. filbertsf, just catching up, but wanted to say that whatever the cost of not letting Obama become President it will be worth. Obama is dangerous for this country. I do hope the bots don’t blame Hillary, but if they do, they do, we just can’t forfeit the country for anyone. Obama can’t run this country.

  236. freckles Says:
    Wolf Blitzer had Hillary Rosen on who stated it was a fact that Sarah had cut special needs children’s funds by 60%.
    I understand that she increased it dramatically. Wolf just said “I hadn’t heard that.” He should have. They made that charge last week and it was debunked by AC360.=================
    I saw a good detailed debunking of that, perhaps at factcheck.org She actually gave more money but the names in the budget were changed.

    What’s AC360?

  237. birdgal Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    From NBC’s Ken Strickland
    At a Capitol Hill news conference today, Hillary Clinton defended Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment, accusing McCain of using the controversy to distract from substantive issues in the campaign.

    “Barack has made this clear,” she said responding to a question about the lipstick remark, which Republicans have condemned as a “disgraceful” and “sexist” attack on Palin. “It was no way meant as an affront.”
    *******
    I hate to say this because I love Hillary, but the Republicans need to ask Hillary -do you think that Obama’s behavior and his surrogates have been beyond reproach when it comes to sexism and misogyny including during the primary?

    If she answers, YES, than she’s not being geniune.

  238. confloyd Says:
    filbertsf, just catching up, but wanted to say that whatever the cost of not letting Obama become President it will be worth. Obama is dangerous for this country. I do hope the bots don’t blame Hillary, but if they do, they do, we just can’t forfeit the country for anyone. Obama can’t run this country
    =========

    Right. Hillary may or may not even want to run again, ever. Many things may change. The solid fact is that Obama is not capable of running the country in January 2009. Nor are his backers. Bush’s backers were crooks but at least experienced and united. Obama has a dozen different sets of nuts pulling in different ways. They could start WWIII just by snafu and WORM.

  239. I think HRC just saw this particular comment the way I saw it…not directed at Palin.

    The thing is, if you go around shouting “misogyny” everywhere, without making sound judgement calls wrt whether or not something truly is sexist, you can’t expect to be taken seriously when you make the charge and it’s real and valid.

    It’s the same with the “racist” charge. As bi-racial woman, I’m the first to jump when I see real racism. But I’ve learned to make sure the racism is actually there before I jump, otherwise, I simply look like a fool intent on doing more harm than good to my cause.

    Just my 2 cents.

  240. I don’t think Biden’s praise of Hillary is part of anything larger. He was just responding to that question truthfully. He’s not going to be dumped as VP. The problem is, it embarrasses Obama because he’s admitting BO’s judgment is flawed.

  241. I agree with Idunn. It made sense for HRC to answer as she did. Notice she still refuses to attack Palin in any way, shape or form.

  242. Having said that, I do think it was foolish of Obama to make the comment at all, not realizing that some might make the comparison. But then, I don’t think he’s nearly as bright as some people make him out to be. 😉

  243. IDunn – I think the issue is that “racism” seems to have been seen as absolutely real and valid when it came to how the “Clintons behaved” and yet whether there’s been any misogyny or sexism coming from BO and the media is still disputed…

    I mean, CNN and the rest of the networks just won’t admit that they’ve done anything of the sort…

  244. CTV, I view each instance separately. Always. I’ve seen very clear misogyny from both Obama and the media. I’m simply saying, I don’t think this was one of those instances.

  245. Let me amend that…I don’t think what OBAMA said was intended to be sexist. I do think that some of his surrogates picked up on the lipstick theme and used it in a misogynistic way.

  246. Idunn, I disagree. This is exactly how Obama does it. He always says things in a way that someone could say, “oh, that’s not what he meant”. He meant it. Hill is just playing Party person.

  247. This is exactly how Obama does it. He always says things in a way that someone could say, “oh, that’s not what he meant”

    People can judge for themselves what is intended and what isn’t intended. But I personally don’t know how anyone could interpret this as misogyny against Palin, when , to the best of my knowledge, he never even mentioned Palin.

    To me, this is no different from some people finding “racist code” in Big Dawg’s fairytale comment.

  248. t4h, I think it’s wise. Part of what is happening with McCain/Palin is that they have real chemistry together. They are more than the sum of their parts when seen together. Just my gut political feeling, based on how people react.

    Not every ticket has that, but when you do, it’s political gold.

  249. defense is never a good place to be in a campaign.

    I’m searching for my toy shovel and sending it to BHO campaign, they are obviously wearing out the ones they have. Maybe I’ll through in the pail so they have something to put all their $hit in.

  250. wbboei Marsha Blackburn, a down home girl from the beautiful state of Tennessee, had me at “IT’S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!!!”
    ——————————————–
    Hi–glad you liked her!They are moving her up the ladder in the party that is for sure. Alot of people I know like her. I think of her as another Libby Dole. Would you agree?

  251. And the finger pointing begins:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13357.html

    A major Democratic fundraiser described it a good bit more starkly after digesting the polls of recent days: “I’m so depressed. It’s happening again. It’s a nightmare.” Adding to Democratic restlessness, McCain has largely neutralized some issue advantages that have long favored Democrats.

    This week’s USA Today/Gallup poll reported a split on which candidate “can better handle the economy”; 48 percent chose Obama while 45 percent said McCain. In late August, Obama had a 16-point edge on the issue.
    Celinda Lake’s words, “tremendously concerns me.”
    Also this week, an ABC News/Washington Post poll reported that when voters are asked “who can bring about needed change to Washington,” McCain still trails Obama by 12 points. But in June, McCain trailed by 32 points.

    That shift in the public’s perception of the issues, in Democratic pollster

    Lake joined other Democratic veterans, some speaking not for attribution, in emphasizing a classic liberal woe: that the Democrat let the Republican define him.
    “Obama needed to define himself,” Lake said. “I do think that during the Democratic convention we should have done a better job of defining McCain.”

    Steve Rosenthal, a veteran field organizer for Democrats and organized labor, said that some entrenched Democratic vulnerabilities never receded this year. And in his view, Palin has reawakened those liberal weaknesses.

    Hmmm. Seems like somebody predicted all this. I wish I could remember who….

  252. hwc, they are all so SHOCKED that exactly what we told them is coming to pass. And you know, it is BULLSHIT to say they didn’t know. I spent lots of time and money calling the DNC, calling my Reps, emailing, begging, PLEADING with them to wake up and smell the coffee of how utterly bad this was going to be in November. Lots of us did.

    The problem isn’t that you didn’t KNOW, Democrats. The problem is that you thought you could IGNORE the same problems of the last 20 years in getting a Democrat elected, and blow off the wisdom and advice of the only winning team you’ve had – the CLINTONS and the CLINTON DEMOCRATS.

    So spare me the shock and hand-wringing. You were fucking TOLD this would happen.

  253. HillaryforTexas,

    “A lot of Democratic elites thought this was a slam-dunk. And I thought, no it’s not,” said Lake, the pollster. “People in this town were already measuring drapes. And I was thinking, have you been in the real world lately?

    “If you have been involved in campaigns, you thought it was going to be close for a year,” she added. “And I think a lot of Democratic elites are waking up to that.”

  254. I see that Bill is getting ready to hit the campaign trail for “The Obama”. We need to get him off the campaign trail quick, maybe filling his events with Hillary supporters chanting Hillary. Obama will pull the plug on his campaigning pronto.

    I was in Walmart this afternoon and couldn’t help overhearing some guy talking on his bluetooth about Sarah. Saying he and his wife are voting for Sarah, poor John, no one is voting for him just his running mate.

  255. the strange remark by biden.
    the statment by glen beck.
    the meeting wiht wjc tomorrow
    the palin factor he cannot deal wiht
    the recriminaton for not selecting hrc

    it all adds up to one thing

    it needs to be a co-presidency

    he can be head of state-but

    she must be head of government

    assuming it comes to pass

  256. And to his credit, John McCain is confident enough to accept the attention his VP is getting. Unlike an unnamed Presidential candidate who prints his VP’s name so that it fades into the background and didn’t have the balls to even vet the superstar VP pick.

  257. hwc, they are all so SHOCKED that exactly what we told them is coming to pass.

    They still can’t believe that 25% to 30% of Hillary’s supporters are gone. Wait til they see how many of those might be gone for a generation, like Reagan Democrats.

  258. hwc Says:
    They still can’t believe that 25% to 30% of Hillary’s supporters are gone.
    ===========

    That’s what polls have been saying for months, starting with the exit polls in the later primaries.

  259. I was just watching Senator Clinton’s speech at the DNC. I kept thinking…

    1. Why was Senator Obama not there?
    2. Why couldn’t Senator Obama at least come out at the end of the speech and congratulate Hillary on her accomplishments and the two cheering with the audience? At least give a speech on her accomplishments and how she will continue to play a vital role in America’s future.

    The two above I believe would have helped Obama but no, Obama himself thinks he knows it all and has it slam-dunked.

  260. Paula, the Dem elites and Obama also didn’t realize what a big deal it is to have a woman on the ticket. I think many women were genuinely looking forward to Hillary being in the campaign this fall (even if some were rooting for her secretly) because it has been so long since a woman has been part of a presidential ticket.

    I spoke with my 37 year old niece tonight who was too young to appreciate it when Ferraro was a candidate. Sarah Palin has electrified her as she never thought that a woman could ever be in a presidential race. And it’s interesting to see her, from a perspective of a woman of my age, become enlightened and enraged by the sexism that still exists in our country. She told me in the past that she had never thought this was a big issue anymore…boy, has her mind changed in recent days.

  261. “The Dem elites and Obama also didn’t realize what a big deal it is to have a woman on the ticket.”

    Absolutely. That should not be underestimated.

  262. Paula, the Dem elites and Obama also didn’t realize what a big deal it is to have a woman on the ticket.

    The Dems don’t get it. They had 40 black, gay, Latino, union, and one-armed Albino debates, but not a debate focused on women. Not even any women’s issue questions at debates. No mention by the party of Sen. Clinton’s first ever primary win by a woman.

    Yet I think all of use (including us guys) were moved to tears at some point by the thought of the first woman president.

    Just one more example of the Democratic Party being completely out of touch. They have no idea how angry we are. Even those of us holding their noses to vote for Obama. My wife is sick over it.

  263. justmeinmountdorafl,

    Actually, I would prefer Obama to stay as far away from Hillary as humanly possible. He’s like a leech sucking the value from everyone he touches.

  264. “The Dem elites and Obama also didn’t realize what a big deal it is to have a woman on the ticket.”

    ==================================================================

    Arrogance. Arrogance. Arrogance. Arrogance.

    They did not want Hillary, election be damned. Marginalized the woman, hoping people wouldn’t notice, but lo and behold, even with everyone and everything against her, she still managed to win. Most people realized what a sham the primary was becoming and did not like it.

    If this ends up costing downticket dems, the scorched earth campaigning will have been for naught. I wonder, if they would even learn anything from it.

  265. correct me if i’m wrong, obama has never used the lipstick on a pig reference, EVER BEFORE. right?

    now just by coincidence, during the week after palin made national headlines, talkin about lipstick, and he wants us to believe it had nothing to do with her?
    uhhhhh let me see now, hmmmmmmmm, no, no, i believe barack is fibbing on this one….

    the manchild, has such an inflated ego, and he thinks he is so fly, that he had to put that bitch in her place, so his peeps would know he’s a real man… thats how i see it.

  266. janh,

    yeah, unfortunately, obama makes hillary look bad. remember when mama said, ‘your judged by the company you keep’…

  267. Barack Obama is a product of the Rezko group in Chicago and is destroying the Democratic Party.A total disaster waiting to become the second coming of the most unprepared and dangerous candidate that this country has ever had.He has not yet been vetted because there are no records,no birth records,no political records and may be inelegible to be potus.He boasts about his work in IL as a community organizer.Here in PA we call that job a wardheeler passing out street money to get votes for the Chicago machine.It amounts as pay back time for the backing of these thugs to get him educated and then placed in the IL senate where he moved lots of taxpayer money to the right people as chosen by Rezko and friends.His bubble has sprung a serious leak and it is about to burst.We can then breathe easier and get to work on business at hand and stay loyal to Hillary.The possibility of Hill making it to the GE is still a reality.Bill and Hill are two of the best political minds in this country’s history and we must trust them to make the right moves and decisions.I have not lost the faith in them that drives me to keep fighting for her as 44.

    By ABM90

  268. I used to have a hard time listening to liberal radio, but not it’s beyond putrid…

    turned on Air America for 5 seconds, and the soundbite was re: Palin: “Have you seen her ass? she looks like someone who belongs on a calendar.” (I kid you not).

    And then, another liberal talkshow: they two male DJs were talking about the Enquirer and how it dug up dirt on Bristol Palin – that her mother made her go live with a sister (aunt?) miles away when she confessed her pregnancy, that she was a drinker and partier, that she made out with all the guys…etc. And then the DJ’s gave the Enquirer credibility because of the John Edwards story…

    ****
    liberal radio/media is unbearable – and the Democratic party is goading them on when they don’t stand up to it. I mean, attacking children, the disgusting sexism – is Barack Obama running against Bristol Palin?

  269. Did any of you just catch Palin landing in alaska and her speech…my gut tells me she is going to blow Obama away…she is optimism to his anger and depression…

    karma is really knocking at the obama democratic party door…and it is coming in the name of female called Sarah…

    what do you all think? no wonder the left is so mean and scared…they are freaking out…

  270. Palin was great. The CNN crew still don’t know what to make of her. Interesting, to see them short on words. LOL.

    I turned briefly to FOX, and O’Reilly was talking to Dennis Miller. Miller said that Hillary was imposing to interview, and O’Reilly seemed to agree. But, Obama didn’t seem as imposing, and O’Reilly didn’t argue the point.

    Re: Sarah Palin. Miller said she has gotten inside Obama’s head, and Obama doesn’t know whether to defecate or wind his wristwatch. O’Reilly said, “I’ll leave that one alone.” LOL. Now, I’m watching something else.

  271. My take on how Average Joe or Jane BagODonuts will see Palin’s speech tonight:

    Palin did well in that speech. A lot of it was familiar, but she finds a way to mix it up. She comes across as really passionate about taking the reforms done in Alaska and doing it nationally. It’s the sincerity factor. It’s the “normalness” factor. It’s the “look at what we did, imagine how much more we could do” thing. She has a record for a jumping off point for her sunny optimism and call for change.

    Obama keeps talking about how broken our government is. Palin touches that, too, but only briefly. Her focus seems to be on accomplishing something, looking forward, whereas his focus is on….I dunno….. proving himself right? About all that is wrong with America? He’s forward-looking, but in a backward-looking negative way, if that makes sense. He has no concrete jumping off point for positive change, unlike Palin. It’s hard to put your finger on, but he comes across more depressing and lecturing than not.

  272. S: ITA. I saw the landing, the welcome, and her speech. The reaction of the CNN crew was priceless. Obviously, no one knows how this is going to turn out, but they were impressed (even if they were trying to hide it). She has really energized the McCain campaign, and has been a game changer in this election. She is talking to Middle America, the people that the snobs look down upon. Ugh, to the snobs, who think they are better than the middle class.

  273. You know it pisses me off that I have to watch guys on cable news debate sexism (Republican and Democrat) – as if they know anything about it, except when it comes out of their mouths.

    Why don’t they interview Hillary supporters about BO’s campaign and the media and whether we felt there was any sexism? We have much to say.

    Sexism is now the elephant in the room – the Democrats try not to allude to it, and the Republicans are grudgingly acknowledging it, but it exists and everyone knows that the BO campaign and the BO-lovin’ media started it.

  274. birdgal Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 12:16 am
    *************************************************

    yes, I know what you mean birdgal…when she finished I was hoping I was going to hear CNN say….we are seeing more history in the making…and give it up for Sarah and the woman thing…but they just cannot bring themselves to do it…I know Candy Crowley mentioned it in passing earlier but if it were Obama they would have gone on and on about the race factor…

    they had to kind of begrudingly give her some props because, let’s face it, she is a natural…she’s good…imagine if she wasn’t how they would have piled on…

    I am really so sick of our side…the hypocrisy and the meaness has just really turned me off to people I really used to like…there is such a loss of integrity and plain old honesty on our side…

  275. please do not misunderstand…by ‘our’ side I mean what used to be the Democratic party and is the ‘new obama party’…and all that goes along with that transformation

  276. The only hope they have of beating Palin is to beat her as she really is, to beat the real person. This business of trying to create a caricature to then beat is not going to work – at all.

    She’s just too damn normal.

    I don’t think Obama has time to stop the Sarah wave before Nov. 5th. She may peak, then crash and burn at some point, but I just don’t see it happening before Nov 5th.

    I predict a little dip, then another surge just before the election. “Rock star” politicos usually have to go through a few of those cycles before they bottom out. Timing is everything with that sort of “personality appeal”, and Obama’s wave is waning, hers is rising.

    He’s out of time, barring a truly huge mistake on McCain or Palin;s part.

  277. HillaryforTexas

    I agree with you…frankly I think she is going to continue to impress in the debates and that ‘normal’ likeability thing you mention is going to expand…she exudes a happy vibe…happy in her own skin…

    …and in contrast it makes the dems look even more sour…and like they do not know what the hell they are talking about when they start with all the criticism…for example, Stephanie Miller, who I always liked – until she turned on Hillary…there she is on Larry king and she questions Palin’s knowledge of the energy issue…stuff like that just makes the left look dumb…

    there is another left blog that used to appear so intelligent that is also beginning to lose it…Admin made a general reference to that one a few days ago…another one bites the dust and descends to a level of such shocking immaturity…you know for people that call others ‘unhinged’…

    …the PINO’s are really losing it…they are driving common sense people away from their cause…

    one last thing about Sarah vs Obama…she comes across a genuine, it is not about her…she is like a messenger…he just tries to hard to be cool…the arrogance and the ego…all about him…

    reminds me of the last paragraph in that Howard Fineman article upthread where fineman quotes someone as saying O is a an arrogant SOB who has to have everything his own way…

  278. The Democratic Party has been such a let down for me this election cycle. I’ve been waiting for 2008 since Kerry lost in 2004. I literally have never seen Bush speak for more than a few seconds. If his face flashes on TV, the channel changes.

    Had such high hopes that a Democratic President would lead us out of all the problems that Bush got into and usher in an era of consecutive Democratic Administrations.

    Then they go and fall in love with Bambi: so hyped, arrogant, shallow and substance-less.

    While someone so qualified, experienced and principled is pushed aside for this “movement” of the brainwashed.

    It’s quite possible the GOP will keep the WH for another 4 years. What becomes of the Democratic Party?
    re

  279. wbboei, what statement did Glen Beck make?
    ———————————————
    I did not see it myself but a friend called me from the midwest and said beck intimated that hillary would be replacing biden as vp.

    She told me biden himself said at a rally that obama should have selected Hillary for vp, and when you are the vp that is the last thing you say unless you are stepping down.

    bambis numbers are tanking worse than anyone anticpated the more they go down. No one wants to do it for him. He needs Hillary bad and that means she has real leverage.

    Does this mean it is a done deal? No. Am I sure of my facts? No, it is all hearsay at this point. But I know what cowards these people are, Hillary went to great lengths to tell them he could not win and now at last seeing is believing.

    As they have said all along the dem elites are perfectly willing to lose the Presidency (which proves what a bunch of fucking losers they are). But they are deathly afraid of losing congress and that is where it is heading with the Senate. (Note: remember Lieberman spoke in St. Paul).

    If this is true, and I say IF the bill clinton has the leverage to drive a hard bargain. I do not think she can be president at this point, and that is a sticking point for me. But I think you could have a co-presidency which recognizes their mutual strengths: she would run the govenrment, he could stick his head in the bedeai and blow bubbles and the bots could commit harikerry.

    Then again maybe this is all a bad dream.

  280. Obama will not replace Biden unless he’s resigned to losing. And, no way in hell would Hillary put herself in that position.

  281. wbboei, I don’t think that’s going to happen because it will reflect badly on Obama’s leadership skills. As a leader, you only have 1 chance to make a decision. Backtracking on a decision like choosing a VP is a ginormous political blunder. It will raise questions about his leadership ability.

    The big mistake I see right now is BO not using Biden to attack McCain/Palin. Moreso, to play up Biden’s own strength versus that of Palin.

  282. Hannity asked Ed Rendell if Clinton would replace Biden, and Rendell said, no way.

    ****
    Different note – CNN commentators didn’t know what to do with Palin’s speech to the Fairbanks crowd because they were trying to contain their snootiness about Alaskans and small towns – when Palin gave her a staff a heart-felt thanks, I’m sure they wanted to be snide.

  283. The country is in far worse trouble now than is being acknowledged and the democratic elites know it. These are petty self serving people–the kind that pray for hurricanes during the rep convention. tunnel under on bill-clyburn or judas richardson. They are idiots and they are determined to tank the country. Now in desperation they reach out to Hillary. If it were me I would tell them to fuck off. Thank God Hillary is not me. You are a better man than I Gunga Din, etc.

  284. here’s the thing, objectively speaking and despite what Rendell said (that they would not replace Biden)…

    Palin has sucked the oxygen from the BO campaign, no one cares anymore. Change sounds like same old, same old when it comes from the O’Biden ticket.

    If BO want to get their game back, if they replace Biden with Clinton, it would be all everyone was talking about – BO could get his media groove back.

  285. wbboei, a bit over-the-top, don’t you think?

    What’s with all the demonization of the Democratic Party? Who was praying for the hurricanes and who wants to tank the country? If the country tanked, it’s b/c of the 12 yrs of GOP reign.

    The Dems were idiots for falling in love with BO and his fangurl movement, but by no means are they this malicious entity that hates this country.

    Is it possible for us to be anti-Obama but not turn ourselves into the Republican talking points?

  286. filbert, apparently Biden says he made a deal with BO that he would not play attack dog. Apparently, Biden did not want to mess with his brand image. That’s what he says at least.

  287. I don’t know, mj…reason being is that the media is still backing him on some level, they are looking for an excuse to get excited about BO again…

    I never put anything beyond the BO-loving media anymore.

    given their bias, they will do anything to spin it like it’s rejuvenated his campaign, “the Dems will win, blah, blah…”

  288. count the votes: Their “snootiness” and snobbery of small town and Middle America are going to cost them the election. They probably think, small town people shouldn’t vote. What a nasty friggin attitude. I ran into this on another board. This poster thought that BO was better than everyone else, thus, he should be POTUS. Complete drivel. And, she is better than her high school friends who did not make the right choices, and she did. It was disgusting, but this is how the beltway people are thinking. She lives in D.C. The left is just as bad as the extreme right.

  289. CountTheVotes Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 1:15 am
    Hannity asked Ed Rendell if Clinton would replace Biden, and Rendell said, no way
    ——————————————
    Then I am wrong.

    Thank God for that.

    Now let that be the last word.

    No more surprises on this front.

    The excedrin is kicking in.

    I am starting to feel better.

  290. The media told everyone Hill lost in February. She then proceeded to win the next 4 months of voting by about 16 points. It really would not matter what the media said. Voters would see him replacing his VP pick as a HUGE sign of weakness and rightly so.

  291. I happen to think that there are two camps of Democratic leadership – those who supported Clinton throughout do love this country, do want to see it returned to its glory…those who supported BO and the DNC leadership are completely self-serving, case in point:

    they undermined democracy and picked a candidate they wanted to force down our throats…and who is not electable. They put their own goals before the needs of this country.

  292. # mj Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 1:22 am

    filbert, apparently Biden says he made a deal with BO that he would not play attack dog. Apparently, Biden did not want to mess with his brand image. That’s what he says at least.

    Oh my God! That sounds like Edwards 2004 when he refused to go after Bush and ran a parallel campaign. He was looking out for his own political future, namely Candidate Edwards in 2008 or 2012.

    If that’s true, what a terrible, terrible VP choice.

  293. I disagree, CTV. Again I think Filbert was referring to Dem voters and some dem politicians. I think Wbbeio was referring to the inept leadership. I think alot of BO’s voters are your typical jerks. But alot are just young, or african american voters who were excited about BO for their own personal reasons(identity) as were alot of Hill’s female voters. Never blame the voters. That’s my motto.

  294. birdgal – this morning i went to an event to fight against proposition 8 (anti gay marriage), and there was a woman, a fundraiser, who started talking about how Palin wants to ban books…

    first of all, i can’t believe people – people who are fundraisers, who have worked on causes for years – would buy any smear moveon.org sends them.

    this feeds into the liberal elites narrative that small towners are dumb hicks, who let god guide their morality and choices, who are not well-read and basically, are stupid, stupid stupid.

  295. post at no quarter is cute…
    ****************************

    Imagine for a moment the First Dude and Barry accidently locked in a room for ten minutes when a terrible furniture storm rages momentarily with one of the two men sustaining quite a thumpin’!
    Wouldn’t that be ‘thumpin’

    My old Baptist preacher would have said something about the thought being as bad as the deed…
    Not for Barry

    Reply to this comment
    Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-09-10 20:56:16

    LOL, and let it be tomorrow when he meets with the almost “first dude.” I think Bill Clinton and Palins husband would reach across the isle to do some bipartisian butt kicking.

  296. wbboei, a bit over-the-top, don’t you think?

    Filbert: not really.

    Intent vs Impact.

    Take Brazille for instance.

    Her agenda was to displace centist leadership.

    She conspired with Karl Rove to do it.

    She knew it could cost the election.

    She knew it could hurt the country.

    Nevertheless she did it.

    By inference she did intend to tank the county,

    If not then she was indifferent

    Consider the following and you tell me:

    B. A Fine Romance: the conspiracy began with the strangest coupling since the Owl and the Pussycat. Karl Rove, the Architect, Bush’s Brain-call him what you will is the bête noire of the Democratic Party. They view him as a diabolical genius who will do anything to ensure Republicans win. Yet, Rove has a friend in the Democratic National Committee leadership who has no qualms about consorting with the arch enemy for a common purpose. Her name is Donna Brazille aka Gogzilla. Thus, beginning in 2007 Rove and Brazille actively conspired to undermine the presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Their motives of course were different. Rove wanted to make sure that Hillary did not get the Democratic nomination because he did not believe the Republican candidate could beat her in November. Brazille wanted to create a new coalition and to install black leadership at the head of the Party. She was willing to risk losing the election in November to do that. She was confident that if she manipulated the delegate system and blacks acted in concert nation-wide they could determine the nominee.
    Rove’s role in the conspiracy was to mobilize Republican resources to help defeat Hillary in the 2008 Democratic Primary. To that end he brought in Republican bundlers from the oil industry to help finance the Obama campaign, went on television to attack Hillary and set up Republicans for Obama programs in the open Democratic caucuses. Meanwhile, the role of Brazille was to manipulate the system to ensure that Hillary would not win. To that end, she set up a system wherein black votes counted more than any other votes. That’s why Hillary kept winning big states and only getting a few more delegates; because the AA districts got more delegates. . And she wanted South Carolina to have a key spot in the process, despite the fact that the Democrats never come close to winning there. And when Florida and Michigan moved up, she saw a chance to both keep SC in its key role and to disenfranchise two big Hillary states. Of course, Dean had his hand in there, too. So not only was Hillary cheated out of votes, she was robbed of the narrative that the two big wins would have given her. In essence, the nomination was stolen right then, when the DNC wouldn’t count or certify the votes.

    We speak in shorthand here filberts my friend.

  297. maybe it’s a repeat of Greta, but Ferraro on talking about how BO campaign overreacted to race..

    Saying that society has a second chance to discuss sexism because of Palin.

    She stays classy…she says that BO should’ve been more careful in his choice of words.

    Greta and Ferraro talking about BO’s “Hillary your likeable enough,” etc. Greta says she believes the media was sexist against Hillary Clinton, and that some of the women (journalists) were the worst offenders. Go Greta!

    THANK GOD someone is talking about this lipstick comment in the context of Hillary’s campaign.

  298. re: tomorrow Sept 11 (already tomorrow for east coasters), but I’m sure Palin will be covered by press saying goodbye to her son, going to war. Plus, Charlie Gibson and ABC team will be covering this in two parter interview.

    this will be a very interesting point in the narrative about Palin – it will win her more fans…more mothers who identify with patriotism and also the sacrifice of sending a son to war.

  299. I have nothing nice to say about Brazile and Clyburn, wbboei. I think they are a cancer within the Dem Party and should be removed.

    But other BO supporters like Robert Wexler of FL is actually one of the few Dems who stood up against Bush. He’s a good Democrat. It’s saddens me that he was one part of BO’s fangurl movement, but that doesn’t take away his outspoken voice for Democratic principles.

    There are so many great Dems in leadership ability. I don’t know what happened this election for them to fall so madly in love with BO that they couldn’t see the forest from the trees.

    But they are by no means destructive to this country. Many, as CTV stated, want to see the US returned to its glory.

  300. Filbersf: I could give you several other people who were in a similar boat and not give the game away. kennedy, dean, pelosi, for starters.

    As a matter of law, you are said to intend the natural and probable consequences of your sactions. If I close my eyes and drive my car through a cross walk I may not have it in my mind to kill someone but the law will treat it as an intentional act. If the effect of Brazilles actions is to install dishonest incompetent leadership that tanks the country then I think she intended the logical and probable consequences of her actions. How say ye?

  301. how come this whole lipstick on a pig issue isn’t put in context of why women are fleeing from him in droves, enough to give McCain a 20 point swing?

    sexism, much?

  302. g’night folks…wbboei, filbertsf, mj… I know we wanted the best for this country because we wanted Hillary.

    I don’t know what stage of grief this is – but sometimes I feel guilty that I’m not thinking about Hillary as much as I used to. Maybe it is the feeling of being sidelined – and now we’re just watching the back and forth of this election that is getting crazier and crazier.

  303. had watched on fox reporter going to liptstick counters in malls asking about the bo pig remark. all the ladies were well aware and not pleased. they were all very angry. apparently women have votes also according to fox. who would have thought with the way bo and msm treat them

  304. T4Hillary – did you see news clip of Lynnette Long at McCain rally?
    ****

    ok, last post – I’m visiting drudge again, and spotted this:

    politico.com/news/stories/0908/13357.html

    (excerpt)

    August Angst: Dems Fret About Obama

    Joe Trippi, a consultant behind Howard Dean’s flash-in-the-pan presidential campaign in 2004 and John Edwards’ race in 2008, said the Obama campaign was slow to recognize how the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate would change the dynamic of the race.

    “They were set up to run ‘experience versus change,’ what they had run [against Hillary] Clinton,” Trippi said. “And I think Palin clearly moved that to be change [and] reform, versus change. They are adjusting to that and that threw them off balance a little bit.”

    A major Democratic fundraiser described it a good bit more starkly after digesting the polls of recent days: “I’m so depressed. It’s happening again. It’s a nightmare.”

    *****
    I think what was so smart about McCain’s pick in retrospect is that BO probably had all kinds of ads ready to go that were change vs. experience, and the Palin pick completely tanked it.

  305. night CTV.

    wbboei, despite the fact that I dislike BO, I still have a problem when someone goes after the Dem Party, because I know there are a lot of good people who saw the nighmarish decade under Bush rule and just thought that BO would bring about change – nevermind that there were no substance behind “change.”

    When BO loses, I have this bad feeling the Dem Party will move further to the center b/c they’ll feel as though liberal ideology will lose elections. They’ve already started moving to the center on one particular issue: offshore drilling.

    If the GOP wins, the Dem Party is in serious trouble.

  306. I know you guys may think this is crazy, but I think that Howard Dean planned all of this. Howard Dean has always wanted to be President and can’t run as long as he is DNC chair. No matter what, the Democrats will most likely control Congress. I don’t think he cares if they win anything this time and here’s why.
    I think he wanted the Clinton’s out of the running. If she was the nominee in 2008 – he couldn’t run in 2012. Hillary would have tied up the Whitehouse for two terms! If he ruined the Clinton’s (they are “racists” and have been de-throned so to speak) and ran Obama – who is a big loser – then in 2012 the field is cleared for Howard Dean’s big run for the White House. During the primary season there were links to Howard Dean 2012. It appears all of that has been wiped clean. His website is linked to wikipedia with a bio now. I may be wrong, but I felt this was the case in late January or February. I watched in disbelief as all of this so far has played out to convince me my theory may have some credence.

  307. Count: well said. I am thinking about Hillary everyday and the goal is to get her in the white house. If I thought bo was a true democrat or if I thought getting him elected would advance her propects I would be over there at taylor marsh with those cookoo birds. But I believe the opposite is true so let the tirade continue.

    Bambi is on the wrong side of history will this Palin thing. He fed the sexism in the primary and said racism must come first. And for many people it did. But a hell of a lot of women saw it differently and when the republicans teed up Palin and Bambi started taking swings at her he awakened a sleeping giant.

    Now he is flummoxed. Let them dig up crap on Palin–let them try. I will tell you why it wont work. It was what someone said the other day that people do not remember what you say they remember how you made them feel. Seeing what Big Media and Bambi did to Hillary made alot of women feel bad and nothing he tries to say now makes much difference, The more he attacks the more he tanks.

    When women see mccaskill and selebius out there stumping for bambi all they see is fellow travellers.

  308. In addition, I mean look at what has happened. John Edwards is an adulterer, Chris Dodd was crazy from the gitgo, Biden is a windbag and will be too old in 2012, Obama would have had the experience in 2012 – but was pushed by Dean et al., Hillary and Bill were dissed and everything they said was blown out of proportion.

    Obama and the media wanted that as Obama wanted to win and the media has always hated the Clintons as they were for the people.

    So – who does Howard Dean have to run against ???? Judas Bill Richardson??????

  309. Peppermintgirl: Dean is tied to wall street interests (through his family) and Soros (City of London-Lord Highcross). He is not smart enough to have figured this out all by himself, but he was an enabler. There are ten steps in Bambis rise to power and Dean was involved early. (Excluding the Chicago crew) We saw him again during hte primary. I imagine gogzilla kept him in the loop.

    C. The Secret Coronation: Obama’s rise from obscurity to power was marked by the following steps: First, Dean selected Obama as one of the so-called “Dean dozen” grass roots leaders in 2004. Second, presidential nominee John Kerry gave Obama a major speaking role at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. Third, Dean introduced Obama to Soros in 2004, Soros had several meetings with him between 2004 and 2007 during which Soros introduced him to major donors. Fourth, in January 2008, Soros associate Wolfe met with Obama to help plan his campaign. Fifth, in January 2008 party elder Ted Kennedy designated Obama as his political heir. Sixth, the roadmap for the Obama campaign, i.e. the Dean Plan called for the nominee to be selected eight (8) months prior to the general election—which meant prior to March.

  310. wbboei do you think the goal was for Obama to win? I mean on Dean’s part. I realize the Clinton’s are not controllable by the rich pulling the strings. They are the people’s choice. It just seems crazy to pick Obama when he is so young and so inexperienced. I personally don’t like the guy as he just seems so flip and insincere – but I would think you would wait until 2012 or 2016 to seriously run him unless there is some other agenda.

    “Dean Plan called for the nominee to be selected eight (8) months prior to the general election—which meant prior to March.” BTW I don’t quite understand this. You mean Hillary was to be knocked out after New Hampshire so Obama could “take hold” and make the changes necessary to be accepted by Americans at that time – oust Wright etc.????

  311. better pray for us in texas. im in se tx in a hurricane atch with hurricane ike-a 500 mi wide storm headed right for the hou/galv area. we have a terribel situation unfolding. keep us in your prayers. and the nation. why? bc the oil refining-much of it-is done in the laporte baytown area here. very near the ocean. shoudl the sotrm go as projected a 10-20 ft surge is expected. refinaries may be severely flloded and damaged. this could cripple oil. everyone needs to watch this one very close. the economy and your wallter may be in further jeopardy.

  312. filbertsf Says:

    September 11th, 2008 at 2:07 am
    night CTV.
    ———————————————
    I understand what you are saying. We are just at different places. I see a deep divide in the party between centists and left wing elites. The left wing elites have removed the black demographic from the centrist coalition and swung the power grid in their direction. The party talks centrist but has become left wing elite in terms of its direction. That has implications in terms of prorities resource allocation and leadership. If you listen to axelrod and brazille you hear about how working class whites are not a reliable group and you see how obama and others have dissed them. This is a different party now and you can say I did not leave the party but the party left me. This was a hot topic here about a year ago when we were first getting to know obama and found that he was republican in many of his leanings and not commited to traditional democratic principles and the we later learn how his people conspire with rove to undermine centrist so that what wer have today is the paty of bacrack obama not to be confused wiht the demorcration party. It is like when he neocons took over the republican party and it was not the party of Taft anymore. The world democrat or republican is merely a label. The important thing is the vison and values behind the label. You cannot look at the history of this primary and not conclude hte party has been hijacked.

  313. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/545moqlh.asp

    The Consequences of Rejecting Hillary
    Did Obama pick the wrong person to be his running mate?
    by Fred Barnes
    09/10/2008 7:30:00 PM

    IT’S WIDELY ACCEPTED now that Barack Obama would be better off if he’d picked Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate instead of Joe Biden. Obama had his reasons, particularly his discomfort with her as his actual vice president if he’s elected. Still, Obama sacrificed a stronger ticket by rejecting Clinton.

    Absent Hillary, the contest between Obama-Biden and the Republican ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin is throwing the Democrats into disarray. The consequences of Obama’s veep decision appear mostly to favor McCain. And if Obama had picked Hillary? Here are a few of the differences.

    No Palin. Okay, McCain might have picked her anyway. He was looking for a running mate who would help him shake up the campaign. And Palin has delivered spectacularly on that. But choosing her would have seemed far less of a game-changer had Obama picked Clinton. Palin would have been merely the second female running mate in 2008. And her appeal to those who had voted for Clinton in the primaries would have been reduced if not nullified altogether.

    As a result, the prospects of the other potential game-changers McCain was considering–Democratic senator Joe Lieberman and pro-choice ex-Pennsylvania governor Tom Ridge–would surely have risen. And while it’s unknowable whether McCain would have picked Palin if Obama had gone with Clinton, selecting Palin would have been a lot less likely.

    No Biden. He’s not an albatross, but he certainly hasn’t given Obama a boost. He has brought no balance to the ticket, not in regard to class, gender, ideology, or anything except longevity in Washington. Worse, unlike Palin, he’s generated no enthusiasm or excitement. Biden has little appeal to the working class voters, especially women, who swarmed to Clinton in the primaries. He lacks the populist streak that Clinton had fashioned for herself. Biden is simply a weaker running mate.

    Party unity. Democrats have come together fairly well behind the Obama-Biden ticket–but not as well as they would have if Obama had chosen Clinton. We still hear from disgruntled Hillary backers. Reporters have discovered they’re easy to find at McCain-Palin rallies. Polls can’t tell us how many will ultimately vote for McCain and Palin. But a chunk of them will–perhaps a few million–which means that Democrats aren’t as unified as they might have been.

    Ohio and Pennsylvania. Republicans figured these states, notably Pennsylvania, were all but goners if Clinton won the Democratic nomination. Even as veep, she’d have had a favorable impact. When she was passed over by Obama, Republicans jumped for joy. Ohio, which a Republican presidential candidate has to win, now leans McCain. Pennsylvania, which is crucial to a Democratic candidate’s chances, has become a ripe target of opportunity for McCain.

    Arkansas. As a Southern state, Arkansas is inclined to vote Republican in presidential races unless there’s a compelling reason not to. One of those reasons: a Clinton on the Democratic ticket. Without Clinton, Arkansas moves into the leaning (strongly) McCain camp.

    Vice presidential debate. This is a no-brainer. Who would be the easier opponent for Palin to face in the nationally televised debate on October 2? Clinton or Biden? The tough woman or Senator Windbag? Biden will have to be on his best behavior and treat Palin gingerly. Clinton wouldn’t have had to.

    Republican women. Mark Penn, chief strategist in the Clinton campaign, once insisted that 25 percent of Republican women were ready to vote for her for president. Many crossed party lines and voted for her in the primaries. Many of those women might have voted for an Obama-Clinton ticket. But how many Republican women are going to reject Palin and vote for an Obama-Biden ticket? Mighty few.

    Because of all the problems associated with the Clintons–husband Bill, her relatively high unfavorability in polls, Clinton fatigue–Hillary Clinton appeared to be the wrong running mate for Obama. I thought so. I was mistaken. As Clinton won primaries in big states and developed a populist appeal to downscale white voters, her political value soared. As it turns out, Obama needed her. McCain is lucky Obama missed his chance.

    Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

  314. wbboei do you think the goal was for Obama to win? Yes. Others disagree–they say it was to be Gore (or Bloomberg). I dont buy that.

    Dean Plan called for the nominee to be selected eight (8) months prior to the general election—which meant prior to March.” That is when they selected obama. After the caucus losses they figured hrc was througn. Thereafter when she started winning kennedy people began calling for the to withdraw and doing other things in order to protect their secret deal. The voters are led to believe they are in charge when really they are not. Same way with the other party. In the general election the voters do decide.

  315. Because of all the problems associated with the Clintons–husband Bill, her relatively high unfavorability in polls, Clinton fatigue–Hillary Clinton appeared to be the wrong running mate for Obama. I thought so. I was mistaken. As Clinton won primaries in big states and developed a populist appeal to downscale white voters, her political value soared. As it turns out, Obama needed her. McCain is lucky Obama missed his chance.

    Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD
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    Even a fool is wise in hindsight. Most of us could have told him this at the time.

  316. There is nobody like Hillary. Greatest political leader of our time. Best campaigner. Best public offical. Best human being. The only one who can solve the problems we are facing. And party elders chose Obama? . Criminal.

  317. as u see the dem pumbahs have begun eatng eachother. should mccain cont his rise and those swing states stop swinging oh boy

  318. What was Larry smoking? Those Oreilley interviews were supposed to be devatating. The people I spoke to did not see it that way. How about artless, pointless and ineffective. Course Bambi did not trip the light fantastic either. Somebody says inteviewing bamb is like trying to nail jello to a wall. BillO just needs to pin him down.

  319. the PINOs thought they had a new story (making history, romance) with a smooth-talking operator who is “black” for a candidate. plus, it is a given that they hated the clintons. wasn’t there an Anybody But Hillary campaign in both the democrats and republicans because they are scared of her (for different reasons)? bambi was a rock star of the paris hilton and britney spears mold – all flash, no substance. don’t we all love a rock star? and so they pushed hillary aside. demeaned, belittled, abused. by her own party and “friends”.

    so the narrative was supposed to be…bambi versus mccain? no brainer. mccain would pale in comparison to the democratic/msm-anointed star. a shoo-in for 44.

    they underestimated mccain.

  320. *LOL! Here’s a “interesting” take on today’s meeting between Bill & Barack from The Anchoress (a right wing blog)

    September 7, 2008

    The Humbling: “The One” goes to Don Clinton

    So, it appears that “The One” is going begging to Don Clinton, hat in hand:

    The One strides in confidently and extends his hand to The Don. The Don looks up, contemplates the proffered hand, and watches The One’s smile fade as it is not shaken. The One retracts his hand, and tilts his head, comprehending, but not liking it. Still, he needs this meeting.

    Don Clinton nods slightly, and with a silky hand motions The One to take a seat. Don Clinton’s blue eyes are grave, but there is a noticeable twitching about his mouth, as though he is suppressing a smile, or sucking on a peeled grape. He remains silent. The One looks about the room in discomfort, waiting for an opening. Don Clinton makes a point of playing with his pinky ring, and gives him none. Finally, clearing his throat and assuming a cavalier affect, The One speaks:

    The One: Uh, thank you, Mr. President, for seeing me in your beautiful offices.

    Don Clinton nods, but says nothing. More praise is due.

    The One: I, um, think it’s er…a wonderful, a wonderful testament to your, eh, your um, unquestionable commitment to em, the uh, your solidarity with the black community.

    Don Clinton, remembering when The One played the race card on him, narrows his eyes and does not smile. He leans back in his chair and waits, squinting through the smoke, his cigar tilting upward in his mouth, ala FDR. More praise is due.

    CONTINUES: h t t p : / / theanchoressonline.com/2008/09/07/the-humbling-the-one-goes-to-don-clinton/trackback/

  321. This one is brilliant,

    “at campaign stops everywhere, women are whipping out their lipsticks in large crowds and waving them in support of Palin.”

    What an ass Obama is.

  322. I love it

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09112008/news/columnists/wising_up_to_bams_greasy_lip_schtick_128594.htm

    Guns, God and Lipstick (the new mantra)

    Women are now waving their lipstick in solidarity with Sarah at massive rallies on the campaign trail – not in victimhood, but in defiance.

    They’re refusing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt or the drool-drenched deference he receives from the Obama promoters at Us Weekly, Rolling Stone, MTV and “The Oprah Winfrey Show.” Internet entrepreneurs are already selling lipstick-imprinted buttons and T-shirts.

    At a packed McCain-Palin event in Lancaster County, Pa., one woman held a placard reading: “Guns, God and Lipstick.” Erin Gilsbach of Allentown, Pa., told McClatchy newspapers: “I like the way [Palin’s] going to bring Washington down to earth.”

    The message is loud, clear and unapologetic: “Kiss off, Obama!”

    It isn’t playing the “victim” card to hold up a mirror to holier-than-thou liberals. It’s calling the Obama campaign’s bluff.

  323. Boston Herald

    Of Course He Was Talking About Palin! (No Prettying Up Obama Gaffe)

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/2008_09_11_No_prettying_up_Barack_Obama_s_gaffe/

    Let’s start with the obvious and inarguable: Of course Sen. Barack Obama’s comment about “lipstick on a pig” was a reference to Supergirl Sarah Palin.

    You know it, I know it and the partisan crowd that literally rose to their feet and cheered when they heard it know it.

    And it’s nothing new. Democrats shot the lipstick line at Gov. Palin on their official Web site last week with a posting entitled “McCain’s Selection of Palin is Lipstick on a Pig” – accompanied by what I’m sure was intended to be a flattering photo of the Alaska outdoorswoman.

    And – coincidence or something more? – the same day Obama made his crack, a Democratic congressman introducing Joe Biden said of Sarah Palin, “There’s no way you can dress up her record, even with a lot of lipstick.”

    If there was anyone in the audience still too dense to get it – say, an employee of CNN, perhaps – Obama immediately followed up with a reference to the McCain/Palin campaign wrapping “an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change.’ ”

    A lipstick-wearing pig and an old fish? Gee, who could he possibly be talking about?

  324. moon

    i always look forward to your morning updates. thanks for the research.

    on a serious note, just a thought on this anniversary. we lost three employees on 9/11. one on american airlines flight 11 and two at the pentagon. may we never forget.

  325. Sebelius and McKaskill aren’t even considered to be knowledgeable of when Bambi is being sexiest or not. The two idiots went along with what Obama did to Hillary. THe BO campaign sending out these two is just plain stupid. They remind everyone what they did to Hillary when they send her out! I suggest they get on their hands and knees and beg Bill and Chelsea to get out there and campaign. They might make a difference, but I doubt Bill or Chelsea would do it and it would cause the messiah to have to beg, which he doesn’t want to do!

  326. You know Bambi’s campaign is in trouble when the MSM does this.

    Obama Starting To Regret Choice Of Biden As Running Mate?

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57222640-0fb1-42ac-a643-ae358d566a6f

    When they start discussing things like this, that means theres trouble in the camp, Maybe Biden is not happy with the way things are being run.

    Its Kerry/Edwards all over again, they never campaigned together and never spoke, hated each other, maybe Biden really doesnt like the guy after all.

    This could turn into a big ole handbags at dawn between these two.

  327. Man the lifeboats.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaWaPymjJ3rk&refer=worldwide

    Democrats are beginning to worry about losing the presidential election.

    After months of leading in voter enthusiasm, fundraising and most surveys, Barack Obama lost momentum to John McCain after the Republican convention last week. McCain has gotten a boost from his pick of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate and has surged ahead of Obama in some national polls, while running even in others.

    Arizona Senator McCain, 72, is drawing larger crowds to his rallies than ever before. Illinois Senator Obama’s campaign, meanwhile, may struggle to keep up the record fundraising pace it has maintained all year.

    The campaign’s novelty has worn off,” said Representative Bill Pascrell, a New Jersey Democrat. The Obama campaignseems to have lost its speed, its response time.”

  328. Today, on September 11, 2008, my thoughts and prayers go out to all Americans touched in small or big ways by 9/11.

    As well, to those from Texas and area, my thoughts and prayers go out to you as well. Please stay safe and warm.

  329. It’s amazing to me that it took the choosing of one woman for vp on the other side and only a little over one week for the cracks in Obama’s halo to start showing.

  330. The best bit was seeing O’reilly last night, did you see Dennis Miller on it.

    Miller called it concerning Obambi – he stated that Palin is in his head so bad he doesn’t know whether to defecate or wind his watch!

    O’reilly was speechless while people in the background laughed out loud!

    I was pissing myself.

  331. The left wing nuts have believed everything the Rove machine told them about the Clinton’s, why? They wanted to. All those women that are flocking to Palin (republicans) were going to vote for Hillary. The stupid democrats have lost another one. Once the Rev. Wright story broke Obama was toast and they should have realized that.
    The republicans and McCain knew just how much the public was for Hillary and seized on it by nominating the closest thing they had to Hillary. The dumb democrats had the hydrogen bomb and did not even recognize it. We could have had health care for all, end to the energy crisis, social security fixed, economy back on track and lastly the war finished and our good standing in world again, but NO, they wanted their GOD. Well the idgets got him now they have to lay in the bed they made while the American people suffer. Does anyone still have those feathers with a little tar for Pooplosi, Brazoid, Gore and Dean?

  332. I hope I can get back home to Crockett before the weather gets too bad and the traffic is at a standstill on I45. I must get home to take care of my husband and 86 year old father. Talk to you all tonight!

  333. Again, in of itself the lipstick comment was not huge. What did it for me was seeing that picture of a pig with lipstick and the blog that went with it about Palin on that democratic site. That brought it to life as a direct insult to women and her in particular.

  334. Oh heres trouble for Bambi and Biden, yeah here’s your change folks.

    Obama’s museum earmarks draw fire Links seen to big fundraiser (Exelon Energy)

    http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/sep/11/obama-museum-earmarks-draw-fire/

    Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama tried to direct more than $3 million in taxpayer funds to a Chicago museum whose chairman is one of the Illinois senator’s largest campaign fundraisers. Mr. Obama has twice since fiscal 2006 sought to have taxpayers foot the bill for a new theater projector and other equipment at the Adler Planetarium on the Lake Michigan waterfront. Neither of the requests, which totaled $3.3 million, was approved by Congress, the museum said.

    The planetarium’s chairman, then and still, is Frank Clark, chief executive of ComEd, a unit of Chicago-based Exelon Energy. He has pledged to raise more than $200,000 for Mr. Obama’s run for the White House. Moreover, the Adler Planetarium is represented by the lobbying firm National Group LLP, co-founded by William Oldaker, who helped launch Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s political action committee in 2005. Mr. Oldaker, a partner with the Delaware Democrat’s son in another Washington lobbying and law firm, is no longer involved with Mr. Biden’s PAC, Unite Our States.

  335. So as best i can put it, Obama earmarks money for friends and campaign donors from congress, friends get the money and donate back into Bambi’s campaign, sounds like theft from the people of the US and money laundering to me.

    Coned, yet another tie back to Ayres. Someone needs to start connecting the dots here.

  336. heres a great thing someone sent me, quite true in many respects.

    To win Obama must get these numbers with these groups:

    ..women, he needs at least plus 7. He has dropped down 12 to plus 2.

    White males needs at least 36%. If he gets 30% he will be lucky

    Catholics: needs 50%. He is down 59/36.

    Evangelicals: needs 71%. He is running against an Evangelical and has nothing to offer these Christian voters.

    Jewish vote: needs 80%. He is at 57%.

    Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

    Hispanic vote: needs 65%. The only polls available show he is at 65% so that won’t help, it will only slow the bleeding.

    Democrat base support: needs 92%. He is at 86%.

    Independents: needs 49%. He is losing 52/37.

  337. Here they go again. what about BHO’s use of Cocaine

    Whistleblower breaks 15-year silence to allege McCain hid wife’s drug
    rawstory.com/news/2008/Whistleblower_breaks_15year_silence_to_allege_0911.html

  338. painkiller addiction vs cocaine abuse.

    Besides, these sleazebag, why would he keep a journal on someones problems, he’s throwing out personal and medical information, i hope he gets his ass sued off.

  339. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday, September 11 shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 46% of the vote. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 48%

    McCain is holding up well with Rassmussens 90 rolling poll. So he must be doing very well in the day to day polling to maintain equal.

  340. Well, a local columnist who drank teh Kool-Aid after Hillary suspended is having flash-backs into reality.

    “Barack Obama has turned into Michael Dukakis, John Kerry and Al Gore. Sarah Palin has turned into Ronald Reagan.”

    Yikes!!!

  341. Good mornng everyone.

    just popped if for a scond before errands. i have been watching the NBC coverage of the original WTC attack and inaddition to evoking the horror, the pain of seeing the original incident, it has made me even more aware of what it is about BO that prevents me from ever supporting him.

    the people who planned WTC attack were filled with hatred for this country, its citiznes, its history and the groups BO has associated with are filled with the same hatred, from black Liberation theologists to Nation of Islam adherents, from Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground to Jeremiah Wright, Bill Phlegler, Lousi Farrakhan, Khadafi, Chavea michells and the list goes on and on.

    Anyone who truly remembers WTC can never vote for anyone who has the slightest tinge of anti-Americanism.

  342. Theres only one upside to all this coverage being replayed, it may stoke up a huge American pride and hatred of anti americanism, it can only be good for McCain and hey guys pay attention to how Obama will avoid the word muslim like the plague today.

  343. Ah..Haaa…Now I know why the crowd went wild with the “Pig-lipstick thing”…The gangsta definition, from the Urban dictionary, is:

    2. putting lipstick on a pig

    trying to make the ugly fuck look good
    “making cara look hott is like putting lipstick on a pig”

    All of the “talking heads” were rationalizing the “conventional definition” and missed what Barak was saying to the crowd and to the kewl kids. It’s a pure repeat of the “brush off” and “finger”.

  344. moonpluto,

    I agree. This is the first time I’ve seen the entire chronology from the original plane hitting the tower to the second plane, the collapse of the first tower, the hit on the pentagon, all reported in real time. Of course I’ve read tons about the attack, watched the fires and smoke from NJ, visited ground zero a couple of days later, saw St. Paul’s chapel covered in ash and soot, but seeing the entire incident unfold is just beyond belief even though it’s 7 years later.

    The hatred, the venom, the deliberate murder of thousands of innocent Americans, the glee with watch the ‘Great Satan” was confronted on its own territory just reminds me of the attitude of so many of BO’s mentors, from “Goddamn America Wright,” to “White folks greed serves a world in need Barry,” to William Ayers “I didn’t do enough.”

    It is sickening. I can’t understand how any of the reporters or politicains who were part of the WTC attack, reported on it, experienced it, knew people who dies in it can now have any support for BO. Andrea Mitchell was there . . . Couric was there . . . Mat Lawrey was there . . .

  345. Shenanigans,

    Thank you. The Iowa City Press-Citizen, the newspaper that I write and blog for, just published five letters today attacking my position capped with a political cartoon of a Hillary supporter with power at the Democratic Convention (fancy that) acting like a child, saying, “If my candidate didn’t win, I’m voting for McCain,” as though childishness was all that this is about.

    God I’m depressed. But I know that I’m right. The Democrats are trying to change course already. I think that Joe Biden IS going to fall on his sword for the Messiah. But I still like Joe Biden. I’ve always liked Joe Biden. And I don’t think that we should blame him for being in the position that he’s in.

    Also, I think I will vote for Obama/Clinton if that’s how it turns out, but I wish Clinton wouldn’t save his sorry ass. Too little, too late.

  346. Hillary4Texas,

    I am really sorry that those dumb-asses hurt you. Don’t pay any attention to them. We love you and support you. You have many friends here. You express yourself EXTREMELY well. Always a treat to read your comments.

  347. filbertsf,

    wbboei’s comment wasn’t at all over the top. If I remember right, it was the former Democratic National Committee chairman who wished for a hurricane during the Republican Convention. Can’t remember his name, but I believe I’m right in saying he’s a former DNC chairman.

  348. “If my candidate didn’t win, I’m voting for McCain”
    Well that would be because after Hillary the individual most qualified to lead our country is Senator McCain.

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