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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Breaking News: A Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin Shocker

Update: Palin Biography video below.
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It can now be reported.

Following months of investigation by intrepid Big Pink investigators in collaboration with Big Media and Big Blog busybodies the real story of what went on behind the Hillary Clinton campaign can now be told.

As many know, Hillary Clinton was the “woman” candidate “ready on Day 1″ with 35 years of experience. After a race in which the unqualified Barack Obama race-baited, and gay-bashed, and woman hated, the unDemocratic Party selected Barack Obama as its nominee. The unDemocratic Party stopped at nothing in order to block Hillary Clinton, including disenfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan.

But that is all old news.

The shocker rocking the political world is that throughout the primary campaign Hillary Clinton was pregnant. It was only recently, after the unDemocratic convention in Denver that Hillary finally gave birth. The gestation period lasted more than 44 years.

The shocker on top of this shock is that Hillary’s baby is non other than the Governor of Alaska, now the Republican Vice Presidential nominee, Sarah Palin. We will provide photographic proof of this amazing conception as soon as kooky Big Blogs post the shocking photos.

Clinton campaign staffers expressed shock that Hillary had been pregnant all the time. “She wasn’t showing,” stated media guru Mandy Grunwald, “None of us knew. We’re shocked.”

“It looked as if she had gained a little weight, but most of us thought it was due to lack of exercise and sleep and the greasy campaign food” explained shocked campaign internet guru Peter Daou. Anonymous sources at the campaign were said to be equally shocked.

The shock extended to the highest level of the campaign. A young woman with curly hair and a name similar to a New York resident hotel as well as a neighborhood in London was shocked. “I’m shocked” shouted the young lady. “No one knew. It is simply a shock.”

Republicans are equally shocked. The thought that Hillary Clinton is the mother of their Vice Presidential nominee shocked the Republican convention in St. Paul, Minnesota.

Republican Presidential candidate John McCain declared he was told Hillary Clinton was Sarah Palin’s mother, during the vetting process. “I am aware that without Hillary Clinton, there would be no Sarah Palin” stated the maverick reform Republican. Rick Davis and Steve Schmidt of the McCain campaign stated they were aware of the shocking news before Sarah Palin’s convention speech.

“The first clue was how good she looked in pantsuits” enthused mop top Davis.

The campaign shocker did not faze the confident newly born Sarah Palin, target of many news investigations and Big Blog rumors. “Hi, Mom, thanks for everything” was the VP nominee’s sole comment.

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1,148 comments to Breaking News: A Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin Shocker

  • OkieAtty

    ROTFLMTWAO, Admin. Bravo!!! Great snark.

  • lindax

    So true! So sad!

  • admin

    Transcript of Governor Palin’s speech at RNC:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13144.html

  • Norma Desmond

    ROFLMAO ADMIN!!!

    HOME RUN!

  • Norma Desmond

    a little reminder of Obama real self and MO’s – from back in May

    worth the read

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/1924872/Michelle-Obama-Barack-has-hit-boiling-point.html

  • OkieAtty

    Aw fuck, now the BO campaign is trotting out “shrill” again. Sexist fuckers.

  • OkieAtty

    BO is hooting themselves in the foot. They will lose what few gains they made with Hillary’s falling on her sword so elegantly last week. Stupid fuckers. Quit with the fucking sexism you numbnutted mf’ers.

  • OkieAtty

    hooting=shooting

  • Illinois Underground

    Admin, ROTFL! HOLY SNARKIES, Batman!

  • Harry Reid also using “shrill”
    Dems are sabotaging bambi. I love it.
    Did Wolf take a stupid pill tonight??

  • NewMexicoFan

    Hillary understands that all women must work together. She nurtures herself and other women. That is truly the way for women to get ahead.

    Regardless of what they force her to say on the campaign trail, HRC is smiling inside.

  • Illinois Underground

    Okie, “shrill?” “SHRILL?” Are they f*cking nuts?

  • Idunn

    Admin, THAT is just plain ole snarkilicious!!

  • neetabug

    neetabug Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 12:14 am
    skmf12 Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 12:04 am
    well, from one of the bitter working class, i can tell you, i aint never seen any community organizer at my door, when i couldnt afford to feed my kid… although they might be in the african american community, they have never been anywhere else…
    since we already lost the aa’s, who gives a fuck!

    Whoa, i am an AA, i have never seen one at my door either. All community organizers do is try to fill their pockets. Don’t be surprised if John McCain get some AA votes. The ones O get is the not so informed ones or they just want an AA for president. For them they can see O shoot someone they will still vote for him.

  • confloyd

    ROTFLMAO! Great admin!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    HILLARY MADE THIS POSSIBLE. She took the beating, and Palin gets the benefit. But that is often the way in crashing through barriers. HILLARY DID THIS. She battered that ceiling until it was weak enough. SHE IS MY SHERO.

  • Idunn

    Harry Reid also using “shrill”

    Of course, because The Baracuda took HIS ass apart like it was a friggin’ 3 piece puzzle.

    And by name, no less. LOL!

  • skmf12

    OH ADMIN,

    this was killer, so funny…
    but your right, sarah is the offspring of us all….

    :D

  • NewMexicoFan

    Good night all. I cannot believe that I have seen a Republican Women accept the nomination for VP. Pinch me, I must be dreaming. The Rep women were kind of in a daze.

    We fought hard, not realizing that our actions would result in a women candidate coming out of the another party.

    Amazing.

  • birdgal

    ADMIN: LOVE THE SNARK. YOU HIT IT OUT OF THE BALL PARK. WONDERFUL.

  • OkieAtty

    Kos, If the Nixonians weren’t so dirty, Hillary would have stayed a Republican. She has a heart and her former party didn’t have one and she knew it. I doubt they do now, but they have fighting spirit and that at least is something since the Dems are now so very, very dirty. :(

  • skmf12

    neetabug,

    my apologies, we both missed out…

  • OkieAtty

    If you had bet me a million bucks I would be voting for McCain and someone not named Hillary Clinton 18 mos ago I would have laughed at you and taken the bet.

    I’d be very broke right now.

  • confloyd

    Well so now we know who always planted that name “shrill” on Hillary now, DON’T WE? The freaking nasty ass Democraps!!

    wbboei, you are right, Hillary should not have left her roots, she was in the right place, she got caught up in the 60’s antiwar movement in college and then fell in love with a democrat.

    Hillary change back!!

  • birdgal

    LISTEN TO THIS. DEDICATED TO GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bt_-R5LInU

  • freckles

    All those brilliant politicians and their p.r. guys!

    They don’t seem to be able to get out of their own way.

    Shrill?? SHRILL?? How pathetic! The 3 female reporters were shaking their heads, having to explain why this was so offensive.

  • confloyd

    Democratic Party=THE GANGSTA PARTY

  • OkieAtty

    I’m going to bed. Way tired. Dodged a bullet at work today but I have to be at the office extra early tomorrow to dodge another one…

    Campell is schooling dumbass Wolfie on “shrill” now. He didn’t care for her answer and now has switched to Begala. *yawn* wtf does he know about sexism. I’ve oft wondered if he has a penis himself.

    Night, y’all.

    Hillary 2012. Sarah Barracuda 2020.

  • confloyd

    OKIE, they all have penis’s, just no balls!!

  • HillGuy

    Haven’t posted in a while because I have been incensed, angry, depressed and dismayed.

    That changed tonight.

    Hillary, you will always own my heart, but for this election, Johnny and Sarah are going to rent the space.

    Hillary 2012.

  • HillGuy

    I was LMFAO at the “styrofoam columns” comment.

    I already love her.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Donna Brazile can kiss my hockey puck. She deserves to go down in infamy as one of the masterminds behind killing the Democratic party. I hope she is chased by mangy dogs in the street for the rest of her crappy life.

    I hope she is, in the hereafter, condemned to eternal conjugal bliss with toe-sucker Dicky Morris.

    But – we raise the old FDR coalition ike a phoenix in 2012.

  • Secret

    *********Hello Guys************

    Does anyone know NE – has said Sarah had an extra-marital affair with her husband’s partner? She has denied it as a vicious lie.

  • HillaryforTexas

    It has been debunked, secret. The rabid dogs are trying to create rumors out of anything.

  • Illinois Underground

    Hillguy, I agree – I, too, posted similar this week: “Hillary owns our hearts; John and Sarah are just renting.” Hillary 2012!

  • texan4hillary

    well done speech. very tr like. very trumanesque. run against the congress. run against msm. this aint the bush party.

  • meiyingsu

    texan4hillary,

    Can hillary beat her in 2012( I think McCain will onlt serve one term due to his age).

  • mj

    meiyingsu Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 12:38 am
    texan4hillary,

    Can hillary beat her in 2012( I think McCain will onlt serve one term due to his age).

    Obvoiusly.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Beautiful:

    sagesgram, on September 4th, 2008 at 12:34 am Said:

    John McCain was on his last legs in the Republican primary and fought back small town by small town, without any interference from the RNC, despite not always being the Republican party’s favorite son because of his bi-partisanshipin the Senate,
    Our DNC had an agenda and totally gamed the primaries.

    Our nominee had the opportunity to recognize Hillary Clinton by getting down on his knees to beg her to run with him if necessary, to unite a party, to recognize the most qualified women ever in the history of our party, and he blew it big time.

    John McCain took a big gamble to ask an unknown woman, albeit from what I saw tonight a darn daunting one, to be his vice-president. I know of the deep and abiding respect that John McCain and Hillary Clinton have for each other. I prefer to think that Sarah Palin is to John McCain in some small way a salute to Hillary and women like me who suppport her.

    Political choice, yes. I won’t deny that, but tonight , the most red, white and blue night of all for a poltical party, John Mccain wore an orange tie.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Beautiful:

    sagesgram, on September 4th, 2008 at 12:34 am Said:

    John McCain was on his last legs in the Republican primary and fought back small town by small town, without any interference from the RNC, despite not always being the Republican party’s favorite son because of his bi-partisanshipin the Senate,
    Our DNC had an agenda and totally gamed the primaries.

    Our nominee had the opportunity to recognize Hillary Clinton by getting down on his knees to beg her to run with him if necessary, to unite a party, to recognize the most qualified women ever in the history of our party, and he blew it big time.

    John McCain took a big gamble to ask an unknown woman, albeit from what I saw tonight a darn daunting one, to be his vice-president. I know of the deep and abiding respect that John McCain and Hillary Clinton have for each other. I prefer to think that Sarah Palin is to John McCain in some small way a salute to Hillary and women like me who suppport her.

    Political choice, yes. I won’t deny that, but tonight , the most red, white and blue night of all for a poltical party, John Mccain wore an orange tie.

  • Illinois Underground

    Don’t the ‘bots realize that their side completely SQUANDERS their candidate’s CREDIBILITY with voters and opinion-makers when they go for the ‘vicious lie’ strategies? Ugh. Sorry, reason #537 that I don’t want the “children of the corn” running the country.

  • Norma Desmond

    Secret, not true, but it certainly didn’t hurt John Edwards….

    I say, Bring it on MSM!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Sarah is not going down over some rumor, trust me. People are going to rally behind this woman, and personal attacks are only going to piss them off.

    She stood up there tonight and ripped the facade off of Obama’s fake “personal narrative”, and shone like the average patriotic American hockey mom she is. The contrast was unmistakable.

    I’m telling you, voters are going to love her, whether they agree with her or not.

  • meiyingsu

    Schneider: Palin’s no pushover
    Posted: 11:25 PM ET

    From CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

    ST. PAUL (CNN) – Democrats who thought Sarah Palin would be an easy, soft target are in for a surprise: this is not a woman to be trifled with. Her opponents may have thought she’d be a deer in the headlights, like Dan Quayle. They were wrong.

    (McCain’s appearance at the end of her speech wasn’t quite as surprising – that kind of pre-speech convention appearance has become almost expected.)

    Here’s what Republicans got out of the evening:

    1: They proved that Palin’s no pushover. They clearly established that.

    2: They established a tough, even bullying tone to this night of the convention which bordered on the ugly, mocking their opponents.

    3: Speakers gave strong testimony to McCain’s character.

    Here’s what they didn’t accomplish: An answer to what they will do to solve this country’s economic problems. Without that, they’re not going to get anywhere.

    And now it rests with McCain.

  • curiosityhasme

    Hilarious parody, Admin. So true – Without Hillary – there would be no Sarah.

    Like the old saying goes, be careful what you ask for………………even Wolf BLitzer asked the question…Should Barack Obama have picked Hillary Clinton?

    LOVED IT…could’ve heard a pin drop…all the other commentatoprs looking around to see if anyone was going to answer…none would…of course…………

    Then immediately Roland Martin started hammering her on “the slam to community organizers”…stating that HIS parents were community organizers (translation-no real jobs) Heard the word “sarcastic” several times from MSNBC, “mocking” from some, “snide” from Candy Crowley, also from others “shrill.” In another day…..we’ll be back to racism, I’m sure of it.

    Hey CNN & MSNBC – I’ve heard Obama be a real smartass and I’ve watched him give Hillary the finger on more than one occasion from the podium – so don’t even start with all that crap. We don’t care what you say – doesn’t change anything.

    Chris Matthews was noticebly upset, because “we can’t get to her,” and CNN was also talking about “how are reporters going to get access to her?” They’re all in a tizzy because they can’t “get to her” and “rip her to shreds.” McCain needs to shield her from the national reporters on the trail. Don’t give them the pleasure of filming her being reduced to their level.

    Bottom line – the “leftist elite” she referred to are predictably slicing her up – while saying her speech was perfectly executed, and

    As expected, Boyz From Brazile denegrated her, made light of her points and went back to the “four more years” crapola.

    As far as the RNC and the party officials, politicians were concerned – she hit it out of the park.

    Guiliani was brilliant, I thought. Took it to the Obama camp – called him basically, the zero he is. Priceless.

  • curiosityhasme

    Bitch on LKL talking about how trotting out her family was distasteful, while even Campbell Brown and Gloria Borger on the scene though it was effective, and didn’t slam that at all. Guess they all need to get their stories straight before they speak out.

    Running scared if you ask me.

  • Idunn

    My husband isn’t the political junkie I am (okay, he’s kinda dense when it comes to politics). I asked him what he thought after Palin after that speech and he said, “She’s good. I mean really really good. people are going to forget who the hell John McCain is if she’s not careful.”

    LOL.

  • pm317

    She was the mother bear tonight. Instead of getting angry (or scared), she used mockery and smiles to get back at her tormentors. She gave it back to Obama and his minions tonight and we all have wanted to do that for a while now and didn’t know how. Revenge feels good.

  • birdgal

    I thought having her family on stage was wonderful. What a bunch of sour pusses.

  • Norma Desmond

    “Bitch on LKL talking about how trotting out her family was distasteful,”

    onlyh if it’s Michelle Obama

  • Fuck Obama hauling out former Hillary supporters to attack Palin. Both of them are lying that they have not heard anyone question palin’s ability to be VP with a baby. I have heard it since Friday on CNN and MSNBC.

  • mp

    OK..Mum and daughter…you did the country good!

    ….
    on the last post, I volunteered to look after baby trig for minimum wage for 4yrs just to get this beautiful woman annd her family to Washington!!!!

  • admin

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Wolfsons_rave.html?showall

    Former Clinton aide Howard Wolfson, on Fox:

    What I was particularly impressed with was her ability to stick the knife into Barack Obama with a smile and do it effectively. she was very, very good….

    That shot at the end with she and her family on stage cradling the baby is priceless. You can’t buy that kind of imagery. She did a very, very good job. I agree Democrats have reason to be concerned. Nobody should underestimate this woman’s political ability, to go on stage in a hall like this, give a speech like this for the first time ever, quite impressive….

    I don’t agree with her on anything she said. the substance of what she said I think is very off base. I don’t think the American people will accept the policies out of this convention. In terms of pure political theater and rhetoric, In terms of imagery and stage prep, in terms of her ability to make a case against Barack Obama and do it with a smile, I thought she was good.

  • kostner

    From NRO:

    Palin & the Teleprompter [Rich Lowry]

    I’m told by a McCain aide that the teleprompter operator mistakenly rolled through the applause lines throughout the speech. So he rolled over the first two lines of the next paragraph after applause. But she was unfazed by it.

  • kostner

    I heard DNC media is going after Sarah’s pastor. They believe her church has a ‘Jew’ problem.

    I saw her watching Israel flag in a video tape., also the Jewish community in Alaska is very very happy about her.

  • birdgal

    Well, Kostner, the RNC will have to trot out Rev Wright videos. From all accounts, the Jewish community in Alaska is happy with her. Where did the new politics of change go???

  • turndownobama-com

    Heh. I see the Georgetown Pimpernel ladies in pearls having too many martinis and wonder what they’re smoking in their cigarette holders.

    {{{{admin!}}}

  • confloyd

    Kostner, Was that an Obama supporter running the teleprompter. I saw her many times looking down at her paper, the did not need a fancy teleprompter!

    She said to Obama and BM, everything we all have wanted to say for 18 months!!

  • admin

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13148.html

    Big Media reaction:

    ST. PAUL, Minn. — NBC political director Chuck Todd, weighing in shortly after Sarah Palin’s fiery speech before the Republican faithful, declared: “Conservatives have found their Obama.”

    Right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham agreed, telling Fox’s Greta Van Susteren that it was the “night conservatives have been waiting for.”

    Ingraham continued with high praise: “It’s one of the best political speeches I have heard — ever!”

    —————–

    So it wasn’t surprising that when Palin took the podium, she said she had a “little news flash for those reporters and commentators” — that she was not going to Washington to seek their opinion. Just then, an impromptu chant of “NBC! NBC!” broke out among the attendees, who likely prefer Bill O’Reilly to Keith Olbermann.

    But whether she wanted it or not, commentators had opinions.

    MSNBC’s Olbermann admitted that Palin “clearly gives a great speech,” but dusted off an Abraham Lincoln quote to express his thoughts. “People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like,” Olbermann said.

    Also on MSNBC, Chris Matthews called Palin a “torpedo aimed directly at the ship” of the Democrats, while adding that the comparison to Hillary Rodham Clinton simply doesn’t work.

    “At no time, during her entire presentation, did I think of Hillary Clinton,” Matthews said. “They have nothing in common.”

    Matthews called Palin’s speech — written by former White House speechwriter Matt Scully — a “very direct cultural shot” at Barack and Michelle Obama.

    Over on Fox, the panel was more flattering.

    “You see tonight that Sarah Palin has served the cause of uniting this convention quite ably,” said anchor Brit Hume. “She certainly has galvanized elements of the party behind McCain within the conservative wing of the party, which had not been enthusiastic for him before.”

    Sitting on the panel with Hume, Fortune’s Nina Easton called it a “home run,” and Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes was even more complimentary: “It’s a gift. She’s a natural. You can’t teach this.”

    Down on the floor, “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace said that a “star was born tonight.” Fellow Sunday show moderator, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, came to a similar conclusion: “Clearly, a star has been born here in the United States.”

    CNN’s Paul Begala had some fun with the angry swipes at the media, and said that small-town voters are “not casting their vote to annoy Anderson Cooper.”

    “You assume I’m part of this elite media they keep talking about,” Cooper responded.

  • debbie

    funny stuff admin but the theme is true…

    the suffragettes, Ferraro, Pat Schroeder and others laid the ground work for Hillary

    and Hillary birthed the biggest step by the republican party in its entire history …the VP nomination of Gov. Sarah Palin

    to me it is far more historical what the republicans have done than what the democrats have done.

    everyone expected the dems to “eventually” nominate a minority for president..no one expected the republicans to do this.

  • confloyd

    This just goes to show you how stumped the BM is trying to find something on her. It makes me sick that they never brought out Obama’s and are now overvetting the woman candidate!

    I sure hope the 527’s are now turned lose with their ads.

  • turndownobama-com

    As for Obama’s ‘community organizing’, I have some links I’d rather not share with the bots who llurk here. How to get them to the GOP campaign?

    tdo@turndownobama.com

  • debbie

    turndownobama heres what i posted on the last thread
    I hope we can stay on the attack of BHO and not on the people that have similar experience.

    debbie Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 12:52 am
    folks not in defense of BHO but community organizers work damn hard at least the ones I know. its not an easy job and requires long hours and weekends.
    They are the tireless army that fight the good fight and I have been proud to be one of them.

    having said that it does not reach the level of qualification for POTUS.

  • mj

    Ibama’s community organizing was basically voter registration drives for the Daley machine.

  • texan4hillary

    note-speeches devoid of cultural conservaitve issues . appeal to all stripes. speak of reforms. change. very smart and very mccain. palin will be potent in rural sm town ameria and with many moderate women. remember bush won 1/2 women’s vote. roe not enough. i can see palin helping mcain ith his weakness-women. watch them campaign this weekend-go to wi, nm, mi, co-sm towns. forums. palin is sm town america. the rnc will have to vet obama. mccain hoped msm would do it. rnc must vet.

  • birdgal

    On one of the other sites that I visit, one of posters asked, “What is with the orange flags?” I sent the poster a message that said, “PUMA.”

  • debbie

    mj Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 1:16 am
    Ibama’s community organizing was basically voter registration drives for the Daley machine
    ************

    I didn’t know that.

    However it is “one” thing that community organizers do.
    usually that type of work goes to political organizers and voluteers.

    I’d bet money that my resume is much better than BHO’s and that says a lot.

  • confloyd

    Hillary Clinton=testicular fortitude
    Sarah Palin=testicular fortitude

  • DEAR barack (ohhh, how deflatedly small you’ve become),

    REVENGE IS A BITCH. AND HER NAME IS SARAH!

    LOVE,
    EVERYONE UNDER THE BUS

  • confloyd

    the orange is the color of the puma’s?? I did know this!

  • debbie

    there is nothing to vet texan4hillary

    didn’t you here it at the convention

    he’s a big ZERO

    lol

  • hwc

    Obama’s community organzing was also finding the required minority non-profit front organization, necessary to get the government grants for the housing projects done by Rezko and the partners in Obama’s law firm. Those grants all require communiity based minority participation so they need a shell non-profit for each one.

  • birdgal

    Confloyd: I saw it on other sites. They thought Hillary’s tangerine pantsuits was a shout out to them. Was it? Who knows, but McCain was wearing an orange tie tonight, and people in the audience were waving orange flags, so maybe there is something to it.

    Liberals on other blogs are as snobby and catty as usual.

  • Norma Desmond

    Ok all….I had to get a little art done

    ;-D

    off to bed!

    What a night!

    XOXO

  • S

    finally someone appears who will take it directly to Obama and say out loud all the things we have been saying but the media ignores…

    right on Sarah…carry on for now…

  • HillaryforTexas

    birdgal and confloyd, the PUMAs selected orange as their color before Hill’s speech. It was because of the “Orange Revolution” in the Ukraine, where a party committed massive voter fraud and stole an election, and the people finally stood up and put it right.

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=25822

    The PUMAs who went to Denver to fight for the roll call and protest wore Orange. Then Hillary wore orange for her speech. Then tonight, orange from the entire Alaskan delegation, and McCain’s bright orange tie.

  • Idunn

    ROTFLMAO @ Imagine44

    Hoo boyy…and on that note, I’m hitting the showers.

    Night all.

  • admin

    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/09/03/focus-group-palin-was-alarmingly-strong.aspx

    Focus Group: Palin Was (Alarmingly) Strong

    Several moderate-Democrat friends of mine have been emailing–few if any would ever vote for McCain–but all agree that Palin was very strong. The more liberal among them are a little panicked.

    I completely misjudged how negative she would be. Her lines about Obama were brutally cutting and possibly over the top in places. But she’s a far better messenger than an angry white man. (Note, by the way, how both Rudy and Huckabee employed a tone that was more bemused than angry. That’s the modern GOP’s favorite trick–comedic ridicule in place of outright nastiness.)

    –Michael Crowley

  • birdgal

    Hillary for Texas: Thank you for that story. There was a definite purpose for the orange pantsuit, flags, and tie. McCain has been reaching out to women, which is more than I can say, for the undemocratic party. The liberals are so snide. It is disgusting and disheartening. So much for being progressives. PINO.

  • admin

    http://rep-am.com/articles/2008/09/03/opinion/363727.txt

    For months, we thought Democratic party leaders and left-wing journalists and blogs had torpedoed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential bid because of Clinton fatigue. But since Sen. John McCain named Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin his running mate, it has become clear sexism bordering on misogyny is at work.

    Early on, some Democrats, journalists and blogs wondered why she isn’t staying home to care for her infant with Down syndrome. Barefoot and pregnant, indeed. If Gov. Palin were a man, would they argue “a man’s place is in the kitchen”? They also doubt “a former beauty queen” has the brains to be “one heartbeat away,” and scoff at the notion Gov. Palin is “a working mom.”

    A man of zero accomplishments, Sen. Barack Obama ridiculed Gov. Palin’s “inexperience,” and claimed executive experience from running a campaign staff and budget larger than Alaska’s. But Sen. Obama overseeing a bunch of yes-men is a far cry from what Gov. Palin faced in Alaska, where she had to fight the corrupt Republican machine to reduce spending and some taxes, eliminate government waste, turn back the surplus to taxpayers and enact ethics reform.

    Meanwhile, journalists who have shown little interest in scandals involving Sen. Joseph Biden and other Democrats suddenly are all over Alaska looking for dirt on Gov. Palin, especially since the legislature, whose vindictive leaders think she is the antichrist, is investigating her firing of one of their good ol’ boys.

    And the same journalists and bloggers who for weeks suppressed the story of Sen. John Edwards’ infidelity and love child couldn’t wait to gossip about Gov. Palin’s unwed teenage daughter’s pregnancy. Most despicably, the rabidly pro-Obama Web site DailyKos, where Sen. Obama and many Democrats and journalists blog, started and spread spurious rumors that Gov. Palin’s infant actually was her daughter’s bastard son. Considering his close ties with that Web site and how his campaign uses it to get out his talking points, we are unwilling to accept Sen. Obama’s word that his campaign had nothing to do with that vicious rumor.

    Democrats, journalists and bloggers also have been incredulous that Gov. Palin might appeal to some Clinton voters. But the pro-Clinton Web site hillaryis44.com sees the smearing of Gov. Palin as “an attack on all women, by proxy. The attacks on Gov. Sarah Palin to many Hillary supporters are the same as the attacks on Hillary Clinton. Many Hillary Clinton supporters will indeed, this November, vote for Hillary Clinton by proxy by voting for Gov. Sarah Palin.” In the view of the left, these women are “stupid.”

    Clearly, the left has many worrisome stereotypes about women, especially strong, intelligent, articulate, accomplished ones. And their Palin panic and paranoia are palpable.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Somewhere Hillary is having a glass of wine and some sinfully chocolate cake, thinking, “I fucking told you so.”

  • wbboei

    Q: Can Hillary beat her in 2012

    A: Can the Democratic party rally around Hillary as effectively as the Republican Party is rallying around Sara? OR-

    A: Can the Democratic Party rally around any Presidential candidate who can win at this point.

    (Comment: I am not sanguine about the future of the party.)

    But whatever happens to the party this is the best thing that could have happened to Hillary–seeing Sara do well in her debut. In the old Naval Academy lingo it proves that women are able to assume “the highest responsibilties of command, citizenship and government.”

  • Levi is not a happy camper. From his myspace page:
    “I will never ever join the stupid army..so stop asking.. vote for obama if you wanna make me happy ! !”

  • wbboei

    Admin: .For months, we thought Democratic party leaders and left-wing journalists and blogs had torpedoed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential bid because of Clinton fatigue. But since Sen. John McCain named Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin his running mate, it has become clear sexism bordering on misogyny is at work.
    ——————————————————————-
    Good point! And if you go back to 1984, it was the same. If you recall Poppy’s little comment that he had “kicked a little ass”. Bush 41 was a wimp. Three women and same treatment and I think it is getting worse not better. Again I think this was a good evening for Hillary.

  • wbboei

    Somewhere Hillary is having a glass of wine and some sinfully chocolate cake, thinking, “I fucking told you so.”
    ——————————————————————-
    Hillary4Texas: I agree. She deserves it. And so do they. I have no idea what her state of mind is at this point. But if it flagging because of the death of 2 friends and the stupidity of her party, then tonights performance must have been a great anti-depressant. The party needs her now more than ever and many now know they fucked up. The best outcome here would be a November post mortem which read Landslide McCain/Palin: Party Should Have Picked Hillary.

  • turndownobama-com

    hrt, wbboei,

    Hillary and Bill said in the NY Mag interview in early June that they were ‘privately’ very pessimistic abotu Obama winning in Nov, iirc regardless of his VP. So they are probably not surprised at the bottom line this portends.

    It is kind of funny to think of Hillary having a stronger opponent in 2012, ie Palin. :-)

  • turndownobama-com

    debbie,

    Pls email me (and reply here so I’ll know it’s reallly you).

    tdo@turndownobama.com

  • Berkeley Vox

    actual front-page headline, from one of the site editors, right now, over at Daily Kooks:

    “Smug and Sarcastic; Needs a Babysitter”

    —-

    Who said the liberal left blogosphere isn’t overflowing with deranged sexism and misogyny?

  • HillaryforTexas

    I feel much better! I just got my usual money-begging letter from Howard Dean. My reply:

    Sorry, Howie – you and Pelosi and Brazile made your bed with an utterly inadequate candidate, now lie in it.

    This FDR and Clinton Dem is voting McCain/Palin. If you wanted my vote in November, you should have counted it last week. I am already donating to them, thanks.

    Oh, and Sarah Barracuda ate your Boy King’s lunch tonight. Middle America and the swing states are going to love her.

    Oh, and please do send Hilllary out to campaign – every time you do, you just painfully remind the voters once again how stupid the Dems were to muscle her out.

    Love and kisses, sweetie,

    One of THOSE women

  • Berkeley Vox

    Palin has the Obama campaign completely off its game. 2008 is a “change” election, and Obama forgot that when he chose Biden. McCain pounced, and seized the “change” mantle when he named Palin. And now, to make it worse, Axelrod’s crew is trying to pick a fight over “experience” with Palin. Suddenly, the debate has shifted to McCain’s turf.

  • texan4hillary

    must read-voters swayed from obama to mccain over palin

    http://www.bythefault.com/2008/09/04/the-reviews-are-in/#more-3301

  • CountTheVotes

    Palin was great.

    I watched two taped version – FOX and CNN, and noticed something very interesting:

    Fox was doing cutaways to a diversity of people – to AA’s in the audience, Asian, Latino, etc.

    CNN was only cutting away to mostly white people in the audience, a few AA shots, but rarely.

    I can see where this is subliminally going with race-baiting.

  • wbboei

    -
    shocker : greta’s susterns hubby a puma? guess
    we’re not sounding so crazy afterall…

  • texan4hillary

    its the birth of a star. lots to ponder. we know msm-the hunt will begin again in hours. hillary aced every test. they heaped praise on her wonders-then trashed uaully with something obama related. mccain gets the spotlight tommorrow. its the speech of his life.

  • Canaan

    Oh, that explains it. I thought Hillary had put the vulcan mind meld on Palin.

  • CountTheVotes

    t4hillary – exactly…

    i remember we always had about 12 hours of a good news cycle with Hillary even when she hit it way out of 6 ballparks, and then, the media would start their trashing all over again. i can only hope the Republicans will stand up, pushback and shove it to the media. this is the first time that we’ve seen a party, any party, outright talk about the sexism in the campaign.

  • texan4hillary

    tool one to help debunk the dnc spin palin is antijew-
    http://www.israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-on-israel.html

  • warehouse553

    Although she will be victorious, in 4 years Palin will have VP experience. I think Hillary will have a tougher fight than I originally believed!

  • HillaryforTexas

    The “New Dems” do have a bad tendency to shoot themselves in the foot, don’t they? Shoulda stuck with a good old FDR Liberal, and they wouldn’t have these problems. Base a whole campaign on “fresh and new” and you’re kinda screwed when something newer and fresher captures the public’s imagination.

    Oh well, live by the changiness, die by the changiness.

  • moononpluto

    BTW, media reports say that Palin’s teleprompter failed several times tonight, so she had to read parts of the speech from memory. Imagine if that happened to Obama and how badly he would stutter and stammer.

    I heards this from CNN and MSNBC, did anyone actually notice because i didnt, be afraid Democratic party, she’ll tear you a new one.

  • moononpluto

    Halfway through Sarah Palin’s speech tonight at the RNC, people following the speech noticed she was deviating from the prepared text.

    According to sources close to the McCain campaign, the teleprompter continued scrolling during applause breaks. As a result, half way through the speech, the speech had scrolled significantly from where Governor Palin was in the speech. The malfunction also occurred during Rudy Giuliani’s speech, explaining his significant deviations from his speech.

    Unfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.

    Contrast this to Barack Obama who, when last his teleprompter malfunctioned, was left stuttering before a crowd unable to advance his speech until the problem was resolved.

    Sarah Palin. Winner.

  • moononpluto

    Ha, Media saying she may outshine McCain, sounds like an admission he absolutely made the right choice, the VP is the future and Biden is not the future, thats going back Palin is going forward.

    Ha they are making the Palin points more mute by the sec. The msm really thought mccain had picked some backwoods barbie and they got a royal kick in the ass last night. This woman is no pushover and Biden probably hit the drinks cabinet early last night and beeged not to have to debate her.

  • HillaryforTexas

    One thing that I have noticed in the coverage of Palin’s speech.

    Where the hell are all the Obama spokespeople screaming from the rafters how racist she is? Why isn’t JJ Jr’s big face on TV, getting all sanctimonious that she DARED call him out for inexperience, and call his personal story a bunch of fluff, the dirty racist! She said much worse than Bill or Hill ever did, but not ONE PEEP about racism now.

    Why is that, I wonder? Could it be because that cynical tool got trumped up in the primaries when they knew they could use it, but concerns about “racism” are now under the bus since they don’t need that to prop him up anymore, and it might backfire?

    Funny how all that righteous moral outrage (that they claimed had nothing, NOTHING to do with winning an election, it was the PRINCIPLE of it) just “poof!” disappeared when they don’t need it to stir up any AA’s, or guilt any more Liberal white folks.

  • neetabug

    Good morning everyone, what a beautiful day, after last night

  • meiyingsu

    Clinton aide Howard Wolfson, on Fox:

    What I was particularly impressed with was her ability to stick the knife into Barack Obama with a smile and do it effectively. she was very, very good….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClpwkjgvIsw

  • AmericanGal

    Wolfson has been saying more and more positive things about Palin/McCain in the past few days. Hmmm…not so willing to follow the party talking points anymore???

  • pm317

    moononpluto Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 7:08 am

    Contrast this to Barack Obama who, when last his teleprompter malfunctioned, was left stuttering before a crowd unable to advance his speech until the problem was resolved.

    ——————————–
    When did this happen? If we can get a video, it would be hilarious.

  • JanH

    From my point of view, Sarah Palin just knocked Obama off the stage. She is a much more eloquent and able speaker than he is and at least twice as interesting.

    Not sure why the dnc and media are running so scared though. Reminder to Obama: Ms. Palin is the VP nominee and not the Presidential nominee.

  • HillaryforTexas

    JanH, I think that all of this upside-down comparison of Obama and Palin (P to VP) is a trap set for Obama. The GOP will spring it when they are ready.

  • basil9

    Admin!

    LMAO!

    Did ya ever consider writing for the Enquirer!

    :wink:

  • HillaryforTexas,

    “Live by the changiness, die by the changiness.” You sure do have a way with words.

    I am floored by the news that Obama shilled as a community organizer to create a shell nonprofit for Rezko et al. to work their slumlord deals with the feds. Wow, he really is a total crook.

  • JanH

    H4T,

    Exactly.

    As well, I am so damn tired of hearing the word shrill. I can remember way back in my twenties that men who were sarcastic were called “witty” and women who were being sarcastic were called “shrill” and “bitches.”

    I honestly thought we were over that garbage.

  • HillaryforTexas

    She was definitely very impressive. And despite my disagreements, I just LOVE that “get-yer-stinkin’-cronyism-outta-my-face” groove that she has going on.

  • JanH

    My favorite moment in her speech was when she talked about Obama’s Georgia gaff.

    He/the media keep talking about what if god forbid something happens to McCain, how will she be ready for day 1 without any foreign relations experience.

    Well, we are facing just such a horror show with Obama, only he is not experienced with anything…foreign relations, economy…

  • NewMexicoFan

    Good Morning All,

    As usual, you bring forward the hopes, fear. and dreams of us all.

    I really felt Palin did well last night, but then I expected her to do well. It did please and enliven the base, and tonight we will see a UNITED Republican party, not one bussed in to fill the Field of a stadium.

    The Dems are fractured. We keep seeing the defectors, and the uniter (HRC is not their uniter) really does not want them back, O wants new voters.

    Shrill I expected. I knew when she started speaking they would bring that up. Women’s voices are just higher pitched than mens. If her’s were lower there would be other things said.

    I see that Big Pink is being quoted in blogs and in the Media. It is going to be an interesting 2 months.

  • moononpluto

    as i thought MSM and dems need to watch it and its bad for Obama.

    Rassmussen

    Last night’s polling shows that, by a ten-to-one margin, voters believe reporters are trying to hurt Palin’s campaign rather than help. Republicans and unaffiliated voters strongly believe that a double standard is being applied to Palin because she is a woman. Democrats disagree. Perhaps most stunning is that, among unaffiliated voters, just 42% believe Obama has better experience than Palin to be President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) say Palin has the edge on experience. Again, most of the interviews for this survey were completed before Palin’s well-received speech last night.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    wow, its so wonderful to wake up to positive news about Palin isnt it?

    Palin gives star speech

    Palin wows audience

    Palin

    Palin

    Palin

  • basil9

    The only criticism i have of the palin speech last night is the backdrop.

    Anyone besides me get dizzy watching that huge Amercian flag billowing on the screen behind her? It made me seasick.

    LOL

  • moononpluto

    I think Palin is going to make quite a few commentators to jump ship.

    All I’ve heard all day is how the kids are sooo cute, the baby is adorable, she can fight and that she is tougher than Obama.

    They like her lots, she may well pull off an enourmous coup.

  • moononpluto

    I’m still in awe that the teleprompter was broken half way through and she winged that speech and still aced it.

  • moononpluto

    WSJ

    Twenty years after Ronald Reagan left office, Republicans who have long missed him may have found a future Margaret Thatcher. If John McCain wins, conservatives may find one of the most enduring accomplishments of his term will have been what he did before it started: helping to fill the Republican Party’s future talent bench with such a fresh and compelling figure.

    Sarah Palin is a conviction politician, a naturally compelling speaker and someone who can relate to her audience on very human terms. America has just learned why Mrs. Palin enjoys the highest approval ratings of any governor in America.

    Liberal commentators glumly noted the thunderous applause in the convention hall last night. But they could do precious little to attack. Even Keith Olbermann, MSNBC’s official attack dog, could muster only this as commentary on Mrs. Palin’s performance: “People who like this sort of thing will find this … the sort of thing they like.”

    Mrs. Palin accomplished several things last night. First, she introduced herself and her story to the American people in a compelling and warm manner, complete with effective pictures of her proud family. Secondly, she praised John McCain’s leadership, service to country and independence in a way that made him come alive. Thirdly, she effectively deflected the media and liberal criticism of her by saying they really represented an attack on the small-town and suburban values she grew up with. Lastly, she skewered Barack Obama with gusto but without meanness. Her line about her job as a small-town mayor being “sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities” brought the hall to its feet in a frenzy.

    Some hard-bitten political observers I know were uncharacteristically impressed with the Palin speech. Hal Stratton, a former Attorney General of New Mexico, wrote to me as follows: “That’s what we out west call openin’ a whole can of whip a— on your opponents.”

    Other observers were more restrained, but still impressed. “She passed her first major test, and if the reaction of the crowd in the hall is any indication, with flying colors,” says Peter Brown, the deputy director of the Quinnipiac Poll. “So much for the comparisons with Dan Quayle, who couldn’t have given that speech if his life depended on it. Obviously, Sarah Palin probably went down better in Warren, Michigan than she did in Washington, D.C. — but that was the whole point of her speech and her candidacy.” Indeed, while Mrs. Palin certainly won’t swing any deeply blue states in John McCain’s direction, she may have an impact in swaying independent voters as well as boosting GOP turnout in swing states such as Colorado, Nevada and Michigan.

    One of the standard operating theories this Election Year is that Barack Obama and the Democrats are much more energized, excited and willing to work hard for victory in November.

    After Sarah Palin’s remarkably effective speech, I don’t think any pundits or politicians will be able to count on a decisive Democratic enthusiasm edge. Sarah Palin electrified the hall, and from what I can tell from my e-mail inbox that excitement is being replicated in living rooms across the country.

  • blue

    Many many thanks, Admin, for your good sense and tenacity over these many bumpy months. Please know that there are lots of lazy but intensely supportive lurkers out here who just thrive and survive on your words. All the alternatives are really desolate.

    Now, in the afterglow of Sara Palin’s knock-em-dead speech last night it is crystal clear that the party formerly known as the Democratic Party stands in need of a high colonic irrigation. One can almost hear the hiss of the gas going out of the Obama balloon as he starts to take some real punishment. He simply can’t handle it. It is melancholic for me to see the party I was proud of and part of for so many years take a nose dive like this and turn inside out. The betrayal I feel is not something that I can shuck off easily. It will take a lot of good Irish whiskey to get me to vote for McCain in November but no amount of whiskey could make me vote for Obama, What a Hobson’s choice!

  • JanH

    Keith Olbermann, MSNBC’s official attack dog, could muster only this as commentary on Mrs. Palin’s performance: “People who like this sort of thing will find this … the sort of thing they like.”

    Wow! Olbermann is certainly the brains of the outfit…NOT!

  • mp

    It was a good morning to awake up to….

  • moononpluto

    This posted on a blog

    This is an e-mail sent to Obama supporters at my office this morning:

    Sarah Palin lost a good pair of high heel shoes last night.

    After the surgeon extracts them from the behinds of Obambi and Biden – tell them they can keep them as a souvenir, with best wishes.

  • HillaryforTexas

    “People who like this sort of thing will find this … the sort of thing they like.”

    Well, Keith, I could say the same about those who like your show.

  • moononpluto

    SHE’S A ‘PIT BULL WITH LIPSTICK’

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09042008/news/nationalnews/shes_a_pit_bull_with_lipstick_127420.htm

    ST. PAUL, Minn. – Sarah Palin introduced herself to the nation last night with a part-folksy, part-fiery convention speech, tongue-lashing Barack Obama and her critics and saying she’s been slammed simply for being a Beltway outsider.

    Palin, who made history as the first woman to run as vice president on the GOP ticket, proved her chops as presidential nominee John McCain’s tough attack dog.

    The former high-school basketball star nicknamed “Sarah Barracuda” shoved back hard at critics who’ve questioned her light résumé.

    She touted her background as a small-town Everygirl and “hockey mom” who drives herself home and got rid of the Alaska governor’s luxury jet and personal chef.

    “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?” she asked.

    “Lipstick.”

    The crowd chanted “Sarah! Sarah” as delegates held hand-painted signs saying “Hockey Moms 4 Palin.”

    The mom of five smiled sweetly and thanked her fans – then came out swinging against Obama.

    “What exactly is our opponent’s plan?” she asked, and then mocked him, saying: “What does he actually seek to accomplish after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet?”

    She made fun of the Greek forum staging at Obama’s convention acceptance speech, wondering what happens “when the Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot.”

    On foreign policy, she said, “Victory in Iraq is finally in sight; he wants to forfeit . . . Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America; he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights.”

    In another zinger, the 44-year-old neophyte to the national stage declared, “In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers. And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.”

  • Norma Desmond

    Obama supporter, and Super Delegate Kilpatrick has plead guilty to FELONY CHARGES and will resign

    oh well…the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree now, does it

  • moononpluto

    WSJ Breaking:Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick resigns in deal with prosecutors.

    just now.

  • birdgal

    Well, I felt the undemocratic party was dead, but last night confirmed it for me. I loved Governor Palin’s speech for its strength, brilliance, and sticking it to the BO campaign with skill and deftness. I feel like a woman, without a party. The FDR party seems dead at this point in time, and I don’t know, what the new undemocratic party stands for any longer. The Republican social conservatism, is not part of my belief system, but I may vote Republican for the first time in my life. The Republican party took a huge risk, but it may pay big dividends in Nov., and in the future. I think, they convinced many women, with special needs children to come over to their side. An advocate for special needs children in the WH. Very compelling. Which party is acting like the adult in this race? Which party has the best interests of our country at heart?

  • moononpluto

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

    Nigeria seizes money ‘for Obama’

    news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7592362.stm

    Nigerian anti-graft investigators have seized money raised by the head of the Nigerian Stock Exchange to support US presidential candidate Barack Obama.

    The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission said it would give the money back to those who attended a gala dinner in Lagos last month.

    The EFCC said it had seized 74m naira ($630,000, £314,000), but said no Nigerian laws had been broken.

    US political parties are not allowed to receive contributions from abroad.

    Stock exchange chairwoman Ndi Okereke-Onyuike is also the head of Africans for Obama, a Nigeria-based support group.

  • kostner

    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5AIL2J35Rw

    This girl is so adorable.

  • moononpluto

    Kilpatrick

    4 months in jail, 5 years probation, not to run for or hold public office during probation period. Sentencing Oct. 28. Loses law license.

    hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • birdgal

    Kostner: I laughed, when I saw that last night. When I saw pictures of this little gal, last week, her star power was very evident. She is a pistol. Meghan McCain had some on the trail campaign pictures up on her blog last week, and Piper’s spunk was very evident. I think, she is a natural politician in the making.

  • moononpluto

    So now Kilpatricks been caught, is this an enhancer for his resume, i guess he can run for president for the Dems in 2012 on his “experience”.

  • moononpluto

    Kilpatrick also has to surrender his pension also, hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it gets better.

  • JanH

    Kilpatrick got of easy if you ask me.

  • Norma Desmond

    moon – link please to the Nigerian story

  • Norma Desmond

    ooops. sorry moon

    it was there!

  • moononpluto

    the links in the post Norma

  • NewMexicoFan

    Kostner, I agree that Pipper is something else. Did you also notice that she took that baby from her father, as she knew there was a point in her Mother’s speech coming up where he would be acknowledge, and probably needed to stand.

  • moononpluto

    Wow

    Palin Nabs Highest ‘08 Broadcast TV Convention Ratings (more than for 0bama’s acceptance speech!)

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s speech during Wednesday night’s Republican National Convention bested Democratic speeches from Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and, in some cases, Barack Obama in preliminary ratings.

    Speaking last night, along with former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Gov. Palin took in a 5.4 rating/8 share on NBC, according to preliminary overnight household data from Nielsen Media Research, measuring 55 markets across the United States.

    In terms of this year’s conventions, the preliminary rating for NBC’s coverage last night is higher than any other night of the convention on the broadcast networks, including Sen. Obama’s nomination acceptance speech on Aug. 28.

    However, the ratings are preliminary and are subject to change.

    ABC averaged a 4.0/6, up more than a full ratings point against the DNC’s third day, and CBS scored a 3.1/5, beating its previous Wednesday coverage by 29%.

  • JanH

    Palin Nabs Highest ‘08 Broadcast TV Convention Ratings (more than for 0bama’s acceptance speech!)

    Yes! That is what I’ve been waiting for! :)

  • NewMexicoFan

    moononpluto

    The first act of getting someone to vote for you, is for them to hear and see you. Palin sure did that last night.

    So when they calls those preliminary, I guess that mean Os people have to go in there and figure out a way to bring these rating down below his.

    They keep working on his convention bounce. Pretty soon they will have it the highest bounce ever. (give me a break it took you almost a week to make it a respectible figure).

    Figures lie and liers figure.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I was just seeing a few footage excerpts of Biden’s responses to Palin’s speech, and reading a few of his appearances earlier this week..
    Does anyone else get the sense that he really doesn’t want to be on the ticket, is just going through the motions?

  • JanH

    H4T

    They are all having to make huge sacrifices just so the annoited one can succeed.

  • moononpluto

    I think he’s thinking, fuck, how can i deal with that after last night.

  • HillaryforTexas

    moon, yes, that, but I noticed it even earlier in the week. I had heard rumors that Biden did NOT want to be VP, and the DNC basically told him he had to do it or else (in so many words).

    I’m starting to wonder if it’s true.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Moononpluto

    I thinking he is say, Hay, I did not sign on to go against a women.

  • magic007

    Hussein Obama is toast…..

    NO WAY, NO HOW, and I will never vote for this car salesman!

    PUMA in effect….

    HRC 2012

  • JanH

    Should have picked Hillary for #1.

    DNC=Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

    Poor Brazille…just watch her implode.

  • confloyd

    Donna anywhere near a campaign is the kiss of death.

    I wonder what Hillary thought about the speech? Wolfson was very complimentary, i wonder if she feels the same way?

  • NewMexicoFan

    JanH

    The little I saw Donna last night, she did not look confident or happy.

  • CountTheVotes

    had heard the speech was heard by 30 million – not sure if that is the final tally. I think Hillary was 32 million…but still, probably not the final tally.

  • confloyd

    The democrats realized last night that they not only picked the wrong candidate last night but how to rally the wagons around their candidate.

    Donna I wonder how she feels today when realized that Rove outsmarted her??

    This was the best chance to get our platform on the national scale and they chose to put up an inexperienced black liberationist as the nominee.

    I also heard a pundit last night let it slip that Hillary had won the primary. He said that Ferrero was first on a national ticket and Hillary was the first to win the primary. EVERYONE KNOWS HILLARY WON THE RACE!!

  • freckles

    Seems as if the ‘liberal’ media is going to fight. They still don’t get it as the males proved last night. They couldn’t understand why Gloria Borger and the other female said that ’shrill’ was a bad word.

    They first said that perhaps Dean meant all the speakers. The women said men aren’t called shrill. Dana Bash confirmed Dean was talking about Sarah. The men shrugged it off.

    Today Obama supporters are reacting with fury.
    McC/Palin have morphed into a cross between Nixon/Agnew and Hitler/Ivan the Terrible. The amusing part is the Obama pushback. Sarah is 1. inexperienced (from the comm. organizer who had one satisfied customer: Rezko). 2. too nasty (from Mr. Sexist Trash Talker) 3. lying about her record (from…hell, you fill in this one)

    The new talking point is that Obama HAS run something: a huge, very successful campaign.
    Really? Does that mean he is responsible for “monster”. “shrill”, “b–ch”, or just the winning more delegates in a state he lost?

  • NewMexicoFan

    freckles

    With all the mistakes his staff seems to make, and the way he spends money for failure, I have to ask the definition of a successful campaign.

  • CountTheVotes

    so, it just occurred to me who should play Sarah Palin in a movie – the actress who played Jessica Stein in Kissing Jessica Stein.

  • meiyingsu

    they said in Morning Joe that Sarash Palin may will be the first female president.

  • birdgal

    Running a government is different than running a campaign. Governor Palin is running the government of Alaska. This is no small feat. Much larger, than running a campaign. She has a larger budget, more employees, has work with diverse interests, and she doesn’t have a bunch of yes-people working for her. The Bo campaign is pathetic.

  • confloyd

    This is going to be a long 60 days. The shrill thing really gets under my skin. She did care if they called her shrill because her party stands behind her.
    Last night proved to me that the demcrats can and should learn alot from the republicans about how to stick together and how to pick the correct candidate! Then again the elites have control at this point and we all know how smart they are!

  • JanH

    Running a campaign? He hasn’t run anything except his mouth off. He has plenty of experienced people running the campaign. All he has to do is show up and lie about everything.

  • birdgal

    Jan: Isn’t that true! His strongest suit, is running his mouth off.

  • carbynew

    Obama is TOAST and he has lost California…look voters aren’t stupid and they don’t like the personal attacks coming from Team Obama on Gov. Palin.

    The West Coast is different from the East Coast and Sarah Palin is highly respected out here, she might be under the radar but in the Republican circle she is already a hero.

    What she did last night was to introduce herself to a worldwide stage…Team Obama don’t know how to run a G.E.campaign and he is making mistakes after mistakes to his peril. Attacking her children…Trig and Bristol, and being a working mom was a HUGE mistake and turn off with a LARGE California electorate.

    Also CA has a huge small business class that are hurting and not seeing anything from Team Obama other than more taxes…even our Democratic Los Angeles Mayor cut city taxes and fees for Small businesses.

    I just personally DON”T LIKE Obama and the message he is teaching my kids…I had to remind my daughter after she regurgitated those smears and lies from Team Obama, that she comes from a conservative Democratic family that because we are black are liberal on some social issues like Civil Rights and Human rights. But take personal responsibily and acountability and applying fical responsibility, hard work vs welfare is what our family has always been about.

    We’re not victims!!! We’re Overcommers!!!

    Love Hillary, but I’m voting McCain/Palin 08 because instead of “It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush” maybe it will take a McCain/Palin to clean up after Bush, because I don’t see Obama doing it at all.

    I’m convince more after watching the Democratic? Taliban Party convention in Denver and seeing the Corrupt Chicago Machine get all that face time on prime tv and cutting any Clinton supporters out, that signaled “we don’t want you or need you, in our new democratic coalition.”

  • ShortTermer

    Pit Bull Palin, I like that especially since she does not have her hands tied behind her back by the party/leaders/msm/and such like our Hillary did.

    Is there a link somewhere to the Republican women who were standing up for P. B. Palin?Now, that is a breath of fresh air, women standing up for women and standing against media and men who attack with sexism and misogyny.

    On one of the main roads here in town, there is a man with a bicycle who has been at an intersection most everyday since the primaries. He held homemade signs promoting Hillary. He then hel homemade signs saying elect McCain. Earlier this week he held signs denouncing nObama. I embarrass those in the car with me when I yell support for this guy. Heartwarming.

    Those who were for Hillary will take a look at Palin;and their differences in issues/opinions seem to me to be less distant than those of MO/BO and the undemocratic Democratic Party.

    I will make a trip today to the McCain headquarters here and ask them to please unite and defeat sexism and misogyny, and to ensure that nObama does not steal the general election and rig the voting machines or such. I will also suggest that they man the polls and voting areas to ward off intimidation from ObamaNationals. I want Palin buttons to put with my Hillary buttons. I am to volunteer for Poll worker here and I ask that each of you volunteer in some form during election day.

    …and to think, we could have had Hillay.

  • JanH

    Sarah Palin was a breath of fresh air last night. She was likable, down to earth, and although I don’t agree with some of her policies/beliefs, she gave the impression as someone who you could trust to do the right thing/fight for what is right…someone you would be comfortable sitting with at the table.

    Obama on the other hand…well I think I would have to hang up garlic all over the place before I let him take a step inside. ;)

  • Norma Desmond

    Watcha bet Biden “becomes ill” and withdraws and they ask HRC?

    any takers?

  • JanH

    Norma,

    Please let her say thanks but no thanks.

  • JanH

    birdgal,

    He reminds me of the type of boss who takes credit for everything but lets his minions do all the work.

  • birdgal

    Carby: that was an excellent post. I live in the liberal Northern California, so I think Bo will take this part of the state, but Southern Ca has a larger population, and with the Gay Marriage Amendment on the ballot, the conservatives may come out in droves. Unfortunately, the bigotry may in up, in the CA constitution, which does not please me, one little bit, but it helps McCain’s chances in CA. It may be closer than we think.

    I admire your strength as a woman, for sticking to your principles and your guns.

  • admin

    remember, Don’t watch MSNBC.

    from Drudge:

    TUESDAY NITE CONVENTION RATINGS, 10 PM ET

    FOXNEWS 6,179,000

    NBC 4,468,000
    CNN 3,220,000
    ABC 3,098,000
    CBS 2,928,000

    MSNBC 1,590,000

  • birdgal

    one other thing, that I really liked last night, was Palin saying that special needs children have an advocate in the WH. I bet, she won a lot of votes with that statement.

  • ShortTermer

    Norma, I think Biden is already ill, has he not been drunk while at the podium? I saw a YouTube to that effect. What is it with these strong men – alcohol, cocaine, what did nObama call it, smack?, not even to mention producing an illegitimate child while you think you can run for and win the white house and your wife is terminally ill? What could they be thinking?
    How many days do you think it will take for nObama to have Biden exit?

  • neetabug

    Norma Desmond Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
    Watcha bet Biden “becomes ill” and withdraws and they ask HRC?

    any takers?

    I wouldn’t put anything past the DNC. Hillary will not do this. They can ask her to take over his position as president

  • birdgal

    Admin: WOW! I never watch MSNBC anymore, but those ratings are really, really bad. I watched C-Span last night. It is so much better without the commentary.

  • Norma Desmond

    Admin

    he he he

    Olberman can whine with Bambi. And I suppose he will have a “Special Comment” soon, spitting his vile self-righteous indignation that McCain could do such a cynical thing as run a QUALIFIED candidate

  • Norma Desmond

    I think we need to repost The Obama “hillary in the duck blind with her six shooter” in honor of Sarah

  • neetabug

    Admin
    TUESDAY NITE CONVENTION RATINGS, 10 PM ET

    FOXNEWS 6,179,000

    NBC 4,468,000
    CNN 3,220,000
    ABC 3,098,000
    CBS 2,928,000

    MSNBC 1,590,000

    What about c-span?

  • lil ole grape

    Carbynew: “We’re not victims!!! We’re Overcommers!!!”

    That hit me heart and soul! It ought to be a banner. MLK would proud of you.

  • Illinois Underground

    Good Afternoon, Hillfriends:
    It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood! Here’s a piece from Crain’s – well, they are from Chicago after all.
    * * * * *
    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=30875

    RNC Notebook: Palin punches, but what does she hit?
    Sept. 04, 2008

    (Crain’s) — The moose lady knows how to throw a punch.

    GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin clearly did her job last night, shifting the focus from herself to Barack Obama in a rousing speech that clearly has Illinois Republicans pumped in a way they have not been in quite awhile.

    That’s no minor accomplishment. Ms. Palin was cool, controlled and comfortable on the big stage. She was convincing. In the great contact sport known as politics, intensity can be everything.

    But if the Alaska governor gets an A for style, her mark for content is, at best, a B, in my book.

    She fibbed about killing off the so-called bridge to nowhere in Alaska — she was for it before she was against it, and ended up accepting the money and using it for something else — and rather grossly distorted Mr. Obama’s position on tax cuts.

    Yes, she was tougher and icier than an arctic breeze, a stance that some GOP strategists privately acknowledge was designed to make up for her lack of experience. She even ridiculed the Chicagoan who would be president for spending the first few years of his post-graduate life not making money but working as an organizer with laid-off steelworkers and their families on the Southeast Side.

    So much for nobility. But the attack is a good tip off as to what’s really occurring in St. Paul this week.

    The media caught on right away to the disconnect between Mr. McCain’s months of ridiculing Mr. Obama as dangerously inexperienced and his vice-presidential selection of a 20-month governor of a small state. It’s been asking lots and lots of questions.

    Like why Ms. Palin, the “reformer,” hired the former chief of staff to indicted U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens to arrange for $27 million of earmarked pork projects for her hometown. Like what affiliation she and her husband had to a group that wants a vote on Alaska independence. Like the significance of an Alaska probe in alleged abuse of power by the governor.

    Team McCain didn’t like it. And they didn’t want to make her available for questions. So it responded last night with a barrage reminiscent of a Richard Nixon convention 35 years ago.

    Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Rudi Giuliani and Sarah Palin alike railed against East Coast elites, foreign policy apologists, evil liberals and, above all the media — which, perhaps except the National Enquirer, has been just doing its job. Only Mike Huckabee mixed it up a bit.

    No one used Spiro Agnew’s old line about nabobs of negativism. But the chants of “USA, USA” would have done a construction site full of hard hats proud. The chortling about “cosmopolitan” Democrats, the paeans to small-town values, would have fit right into one of Mr. Nixon’s appeals to the silent majority.

    Almost makes me want to dig out that old pair of bell bottoms from the bottom of the closet. Almost.

    Yes, it’s politics. And, yes, Team Obama threw a few pitches of its own in Denver.

    But unless I’m mistaken, Americans are ready to move beyond slash-and-burn politics to actually get things done in Washington.

    Perhaps Mr. McCain will dangle a little bipartisanship tonight. But Wednesday night was the heart of this Republican National Convention.

    For Ronald Reagan, it always was morning in America. For Team McCain, it was time to rail against “them.”

    We’ll see if it works.

  • lil ole grape

    I’m getting so tired of sending emails and snail mails nearly everyday to those in power, who most likely never read them, but somehow I can’t stop doing it, hoping for a hit now and then. This is the one I’ve been sending to the Democratic Party every time they ask for money. I recently added Palin’s and Biden’s names, and this morning I changed “select that empty suit, Obama” to “select that ZERO, Obama”

    “Senator Clinton would have done us proud, but you stupidly worked against her to autocratically select that ZERO, Obama, instead.

    Your claim to stand for women’s issues means nothing because you are infected with misogyny.

    I agree that McCain/Palin is not a dream team, but Obama/Biden promises the same old ineptitude we’ve been seeing from the Dems for years, plus additional serious dangers. Senator Clinton is the most capable leader for our time. You showed your lack of concern for the people of this country when you UNdemocratically rigged the nomination and threw her out! My family and friends, life-long Democrats, might never ever forgive you for this. I’m not talking the loyalty issue or women’s issues. I’m talking about her solid ability, integrity and dedication to the good of the people. Only the Clintons carry the true values of the old Democratic Party — wake up and realize it! Put Hillary back into the race, and then we’ll talk about donations. Meanwhile McCain/Palin is all we’ve got.

    And by the way I wish you would stop sending Hillary out there to plead for the empty Obama. If he’s any kind of a leader he ought to be able to stand up for himself instead of clinging to her pantsuit. It’s insulting to her greatness and it’s a clear admission of his inability to win, to be a leader for all the people on his own. Of course, it’s also a constant reminder that she is all that’s left of the party. Did you get that? The Clintons are all that’s left of the Democratic Party. The rest of you are dead and not worth a funeral, not to mention a 5 dollar donation.”

  • ShortTermer

    Birdgal, I have been waiting with great anticipation to the Special Needs part. I spent more than twenty years working with those who were crippled and other health imparired. These parents, grandparents, and educators are activists who are relentless and the number of special needs chidlren is astronomical now compared to when I first entered the field. This is a huge constituency of parents and people who are looking for an advocate in the white house; and there are those who are against No Child Left Behind. Pit Bull Palin has tapped into a source of votes that will be loyal and true, and no one else has – kind of takes the luster out of the Kennedy family I think.

    Next to step up will likely be Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.
    The tide has turned, the tsunami I reported early on in the primary is almost audible now. Listen. Hear it?

    T. Boone Pickens was on and said that McCain had not addressed his energy requirements, is McCain ignoring him for some good reason? He said nObama was “almost” there in energy independence strategies…..I don’t think so.

  • hwc

    Looks like the Dems trotted out Gibbs, Sebelius, and Wasserman-Shultz to trash Governor Palin this morning:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/sebelius-accuses-palin-of_n_123883.html

    I guess Hiliary was busy….

  • birdgal

    Illinois Underground: That article was full of innuendos and slurs, many of which, have been debunked. Slash and burn politics? The BO campaign has been a poster child for this style of politics. It exemplifies the hypocrisy of the campaign and the press. The are bah-humbug, because someone else took the spotlight away from the “annointed one.” What hypocrisy, elitism, and arrogance. This what many people feel from the BO campaign and they don’t like it, which is why, they do not connect with BO.

  • carbynew

    Does Team Obama have any political instinct?

  • birdgal

    T.Boone Pickens is an ally with Pelosi, so that tells you a lot. She has money invested with him.

  • admin

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Last night’s polling shows that, by a ten-to-one margin, voters believe reporters are trying to hurt Palin’s campaign rather than help. Republicans and unaffiliated voters strongly believe that a double standard is being applied to Palin because she is a woman. Democrats disagree. Perhaps most stunning is that, among unaffiliated voters, just 42% believe Obama has better experience than Palin to be President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) say Palin has the edge on experience. Again, most of the interviews for this survey were completed before Palin’s well-received speech last night.

  • JanH

    I would love for the Republicans to hire a small army of computer savvy soldiers to combat the poison and lies that Obama’s hit team keep trying to spread.

  • Berkeley Vox

    By having Palin assume the traditional “VP-candidate-as-attack-dog” role (could this have been any clearer, with the pit bull analogy?), the McCain campaign has handcuffed Obama/Biden. How can they respond without opening all the festering wounds about their campaign’s ongoing sexism? God, what a brilliant pick this was. It becomes more and more apparent by the day.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Clinton aides: Palin treatment sexist
    By: John F. Harris and Beth Frerking
    September 4, 2008 11:46 AM EST
    politico.com

    ST. PAUL, Minn. — Sarah Palin found some unlikely allies Wednesday as leading academics and even former top aides to Hillary Rodham Clinton endorsed the Republican charge that John McCain’s running mate has been subject to a sexist double standard by the news media and Democrats.

    Georgetown University professor Deborah Tannen, who has written best-selling books on gender differences, said she agrees with complaints that Palin skeptics — including prominent voices in the news media — have crossed a line by speculating about whether the Alaska governor is neglecting her family in pursuit of national office.

    “What we’re dealing with now, there’s nothing subtle about it,” said Tannen. “We’re dealing with the assumption that child-rearing is the job of women and not men. Is it sexist? Yes.”

    “There’s no way those questions would be asked of a male candidate,” said Howard Wolfson a former top strategist for Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    The sexism charge was hurled with new intensity Wednesday afternoon by McCain surrogates, all women, at a news conference just hours before made her acceptance speech here – a speech in which she said this about the media and Washington elite: “I’m not going to Washington to seek their good opinion – I’m going to Washington to serve the people of this country.”

    The tense encounter with reporters showed how McCain’s team has abandoned all pretense that this convention is about anything but Palin, her résumé and her wildly unexpected ascension to the GOP ticket.

    A choice that was intended to shake up the race did so with more ferocity than McCain ever intended. The mother of five — with one pregnant teenage daughter and an infant son with Down syndrome — has joined a parade of personalities from Anita Hill to O.J. Simpson to Monica Lewinsky to become a cultural flash point.

    As the controversy over her qualifications and McCain’s vetting process overwhelmed events here, hypocritical rhetoric was flowing at full tide on all sides of the debate.

    Many conservatives, who spent a generation ridiculing the politics of victimhood and group identity, are now zealously invoking both in the Twin Cities. A common GOP talking point here is that Palin’s gender and experiences as a mother should be counted as an asset among her qualifications. At the news conference, former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift condemned “an outrageous smear campaign” against Palin, and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina said, “The Republican Party will not stand by while Gov. Palin is subjected to sexist attacks.”

    Just last spring, Palin herself scoffed when Hillary Clinton’s campaign complained about a double standard in coverage.

    “When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism, or maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, ‘Man, that doesn’t do us any good, women in politics, or women in general, trying to progress this country,’ ” Palin said.

    Now, McCain’s team is urgently recruiting female surrogates and loudly crying sexism to deflect legitimate inquiries into Palin’s experience, her record, and the last-minute, improvisational process by which McCain chose a small-state governor who was elected in 2006 after serving of mayor of small-town Wasilla, a far suburb of Anchorage.

    It was a process dominated by a small handful of male aides to McCain, consulting no woman other than the candidate’s wife, Cindy McCain.

    Even so, many media and liberal voices have made the job easy for McCain’s spin squadrons. Among the eyebrow-raising comments in recent days:

    • Democrat Joe Biden, in what he intended as self-deprecating remark, observed, “There’s a gigantic difference between John McCain and Barack Obama and between me and I suspect my vice presidential opponent. … She’s good looking.”

    • A spokeswoman for the National Organization for Women, noting Palin’s opposition to abortion rights and support of other parts of the social conservative agenda, told Politico, “She’s more a conservative man than she is a woman on women’s issues. Very disappointing.”

    • Liberal radio host Ed Schultz used the words “bimbo alert” to refer to Palin, and the Huffington Post featured a photo montage of Palin with the headline, “Former Beauty Queen, Future VP?”

    • CNN’s John Roberts recently pondered on air: “Children with Down’s syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of vice president, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?”

    This line of inquiry was echoed by writer Sally Quinn, who in her “On Faith” column for washingtonpost.com agreed that Palin is a “bright, attractive, impressive person,” but also asked, “is she prepared for the all-consuming nature of the job?”

    “Her first priority has to be her children,” Quinn wrote. “When the phone rings at 3 in the morning and one of her children is really sick what choice will she make?”

    There is little question that these questions are being asked around kitchen tables. But there are recent examples of a double standard.

    Former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) was more frequently praised for his perseverance than hazed for misplaced priorities when he continued his presidential campaign even after wife Elizabeth Edwards was diagnosed with an incurable form of cancer. The couple has two children still at home, ages 10 and 8.

    Edwards was himself a close finalist for a vice presidential nod in 2000, when Al Gore nearly tapped him at a time when he had served the same amount of time in the U.S. Senate that Palin has as Alaska governor, and about the same amount of time that Barack Obama had served when he began his presidential quest two years ago.

    Phil Singer, who worked with Wolfson on Clinton’s campaign, said the news media tend to focus on different sets of subjects when covering women candidates. He noted articles on Clinton’s cleavage, and whether she had the personality of a “bitch.”

    “There’s no question that the issues a woman has to deal with are different,” Singer said, adding that, “The real indictment that needs to be prosecuted is about her views, not her personal life.”

    Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said in a Politico interview Wednesday that a double standard was being applied against Palin, in part because she is unknown to Washington reporters. “It’s always a dangerous thing to surprise the press,” he said. “When you’re unorthodox and unpredictable, you pay a price.”

    He also noted a subject that “I probably shouldn’t get into” on the record, before deciding to plunge in: Historically, Cole, said “to be a leader in the women’s movement, you have to be a liberal. This is clearly a very liberated woman who is not a liberal. And I think there is some tension with that because again, she breaks a lot of stereotypes and molds.”

    Some commentators said the McCain campaign has no grounds for complaint about sexism because it stressed her family background in her public unveiling last week in Dayton, Ohio, with her children on stage.

    “The first image here [of Palin] was: This is a woman who is a wife and a mother, and let us tell you about her family,” said Ruth B. Mandel, a founder of and senior scholar at the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University. “If they want the country to see her in a different way, and if they want the children and the family to be off-limits, they have to reframe it. You can’t have it both ways.”

    Barbara Risman, a leader of the Council on Contemporary Families and a sociology professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, walked a middle ground on the emergence of gender identity politics in the presidential race.

    “It makes absolutely no sense for me to vote for a woman just because I have a vagina and so does she,” said Risman. “But it does make sense for me … I believe that someone who has lived a life like mine just might understand my struggles more than others.”

    And she hoped that Palin and the uproar over her coverage would prove itself to be a cultural milestone: “I think it’s really important, from this day forward, that we all ask about every candidate’s work life and home life. It’s sexism otherwise. … We have to be careful not to ask her questions that we wouldn’t ask a male candidate.”

    Cecile Dehesdin, Ryan Grim, David Paul Kuhn contributed to this story.

  • Norma Desmond

    Lil Old Grape

    NICE letter!

    I wonder how many MILLIONS of these the DNC have received in the past six months.

    I wonder if they are recycling or just throwing them in disgust into the trash.

  • birdgal

    Obviously, the DNC has not been listening, or things would have turned out differently. This was not an election, it was a selection.

  • Norma Desmond

    Birdgal. It was not only a selection, it was the total undermining of the democratic process in order to advance an agenda, and a great deal of that agenda was racial.

  • JanH

    Somebody please write an honest expose about the underhandedness of the DNC, Obama, and the media is this election season.

    I expect you could become an instant millionaire if you wanted to.

  • bluegirl

    I don’t know how to put up links, but there is a 59 sec. video on youtube that I think everyone should see. All you have to do in Google is type: Obama goes off on a heckler and then click on the first link to watch it. It’s shocking. This is presidential material? I don’t think so, lol.

    There are other links of this also, but some of them cut out the good part. Watch it to the end.

    I had also seen another video a while back where Obama was trying to say something and he made 3 or 4 attempts to say a sentence before he actually strung it together. He really looked like he was “out of it”.

    Maybe admin. can post the link to the right one here.

  • SHV

    anH Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Somebody please write an honest expose about the underhandedness of the DNC, Obama, and the media is this election season.

    I expect you could become an instant millionaire if you wanted to.

    I was just thinking the same thing.

  • Illinois Underground

    Birdgal, agreed, that is the media jumping on half-truths and stuff made up of whole cloth. I’m just shocked that it comes from a usually reliably Republican Crain’s Chicago Business. (or, why I’m “underground”)

  • mp

    todd palin introduced cindy…onn c-span

  • JanH

    Woah NMF,

    If by some terrible piece of fate this man becomes 44, we’d all better run for the hills. The guy is a lunatic and I bet a psychiatrist would have a field day with that clip.

  • HillaryforTexas

    bluegirl, that youtube is a joke. It is spliced and the sound track/.voice added.

  • admin

    NewMexicoFan, we have not linked to that Youtube because it is doctored. Obama is not saying those things. It is a cleverly cut video, but doctored.

    Obama is enough of a mess that we don’t have to make things up about him.

  • birdgal

    Norma: ITA. It was total destruction of the democratic process, and showed how corrupt and rotten the democratic? party really is. Pelosi has to go.

    Bluegirl: be careful. there is a “doctored” youtube clip about BO’s response to a heckler. It is not valid.

    Illinois: Doesn’t the Chicago machine involve both parties? Maybe, that explains it.

  • JanH

    oops…I knew it was too good to be true…lol… ;)

  • birdgal

    admin says: “Obama is enough of a mess that we don’t have to make things up about him.”

    Truer words never written or spoken.

  • basil9

    My new name for McCain/Palin:

    McCALIN

    :-D

    And Palin alone is Saracudda. hehehehe

  • basil9

    Anyone have a link to Brazile last night?

  • basil9

    NORMA!

    Please don’t say that!

    “Watcha bet Biden “becomes ill” and withdraws and they ask HRC?”

  • hwc

    Governor Palin reminds me of LBJ. She is, indeed, a pit bull.

    The Head of Public Safety she fired is trying to take her down by leaking her e-mails to the Washington Post. I read the e-mails and think, “wow. This woman is one serious badass”.

    Take this e-mail from the WaPo’s expose. Clearly, Palin is smart enough to know she can’t tell the guy to fire her ex-broather in law. So she sends him an e-mail encouraging him to go to legislature and testify in favor of a bill mandating 99 year prison terms for police officers found guilty of murder. Why does she want her cabinet offical to support the bill?

    Because “We have too many examples lately of cops and troopers who violate the public trust. [Dept. of Public Safety] has come across as merely turning a blind eye or protecting that officer, seemingly ‘for the good of the brotherhood’.”

    Who does she use as an example of rouge cops? Yep. You betcha!

    Here’s the whole passage from the WaPo. This woman’s arm twisting would make LBJ proud:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090303210_pf.html

    In that first e-mail, sent a few weeks after the meeting, Palin encouraged Monegan to testify for a bill that would require 99-year sentences for police officers found guilty of murder. “For police officers to violate the public trust is a grave, grave violation — in my opinion. We have too many examples lately of cops and troopers who violate the public trust. DPS has come across as merely turning a blind eye or protecting that officer, seemingly ‘for the good of the brotherhood’.”

    She cited Wooten’s case as an example of violating the public trust. She recounted his transgressions, beginning with the killing of the cow moose using a permit obtained by his wife. Molly McCann, who uses her name from a previous marriage, was with Wooten at the time.

    “He’s still bragging about it in my hometown and after another cop confessed to witnessing the kill, the trooper was ‘investigated’ for over a year and merely given a slap on the wrist,” the e-mail said. “Though he’s out there arresting people today for the same crime!”

    “He threatened to kill his estranged wife’s parent, refused to be transferred to rural Alaska and continued to disparage Natives in words and tone, he continues to harass and intimidate his ex. — even after being slapped with a restraining order that was lifted when his supervisors intervened,” the e-mail said. “He threatens to always be able to come out on top because he’s ‘got the badge’, etc. etc. etc.)”

    Palin wrote that the Wooten matter had contributed to “the erosion of faith Alaskans should have in their law enforcement officials.” She concluded by saying the e-mail was “just my opinion.”

  • Illinois Underground

    Birdgal, yes, indeed – we have a 1-party system all lined up behind BO they are his “interests.”

  • basil9

    Berkeley Vox,

    Excellent analysis!

  • NewMexicoFan

    Admin, thanks for being on the mark, and not spreading rumors like some blogs.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Admin, maybe you should delete the post.

  • kostner

    Woman Democrats strike back against Sarah Palin
    h t t p : / / http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/04/sarahpalin.republicans20081
    ———————————-

    This is pretty silly. As a man, I always want tough and intelligent woman politician to be president. That’s exactly why I was so attracted to Thatcher, Clinton, and now Palin regardless of their different ideologies.

    I don’t have much stomach for the other so-called ‘women’ politicians in both parties…

  • basil9

    Neetabug,

    WOW! Those stats are amazing!

    BTW, callers into talk shows today say they heard CHEERING from their neighbors apartments during the Palin speech and it was so loud it could be heard on the street.

  • Norma Desmond

    here is the “book” on caucus and election fraud

    http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/

    it’s just that the MSM and the Justice Department doesnt seem to give a damn

  • jtorres138

    A-Rod,

    It’s a shame Hillary wasn’t on the ticket — she would’ve destroyed Palin. Still, the louder the media’s smears grew, the more I saw myself defending a women I rarely agree with. Funny how things work.

    McCain/Palin ‘08

  • basil9

    The curse continues:

    Kilpatrick indicted and slapped with a 6 month prison sentence.

    Jesse Jackson hospitalized with severe stomach pain.

  • hwc

    I got chased out of the room for cheering too loudly during Palin’s speech last night. If I recall, my wife accused me of “cackling”. I think the final straw was when I keeled over laughing that the, “when the styrofoam columns have been returned to some studio lot……”

  • Idunn

    I can’t even get a single Obama supporter to look at that Lynnette Long stuff. Not even my friends who are Obama supporters, and who I’d always thought were very rational people. They won’t even look…just declare it an Obama smear campaign.

    Unreal.

  • HillaryforTexas

    basil, Jesse Jr or Sr? Because I still have a little respect for Sr. JJ Jr is a bloviating loathesome toad.

  • kostner

    h t t p : / / community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix/player.php?ID=2147051&GID=118

    Alaska’s Luxury Jet
    In her speech at the Republican National Convention, Gov. Palin makes reference to former Gov. Murkowski’s luxury jet, which she got rid of after taking office. “That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.” Take an inside tour of that jet before it was sold. (Video taken: Feb. 13, 2007)

  • basil9

    hwc,

    LMAO!
    A couple of callers into talk radio said their landlord knocked on their door telling them to quiet down, thinkuing the occupants were hollering for the baseball game.

    Turns out they were cheering Palin. :-D
    Last time i did any cheering was when HRC was kicking butt in WVa, KY and PR.

  • bluegirl

    Hillary for Texas , thanks, I didn’t know that, lol.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Bambi keeps trotting out female supporters all OVER the news, harping on how Palin is bad for women, and “women won’t vote on gender”.

    Yep, they are scared. Bad.

  • Norma Desmond

    Idunn…

    it amazes me that these folks who swear Obama is the new politician refuse to look at the FACTS. All I can say is it is up to the adults in the room to make sure these hucksters do not gain control of the Government, or caucus fraud will be “the good old days”

    count on it

  • kostner

    I agree Hillary is a very formidable debater, and her mastery of policies is perhaps far superb than Palin for the time being.

    I’ll be very interested to see how Palin will perform in debate and interviews. She seems to be very good in interviews, but her knowledge is very narrow, mostly focused on energy… We’ll see if she’s a quick learner.

  • basil9

    h4t

    JJ senior. He seems to be recovering.

    Here’s the link or check Drudge, RH column..

    apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D930009G1

  • birdgal

    Kostner: Those democratic? women are pathetic. Governor Palin is NOT an empty suit, by any stretch of the imagination. Those women need to look in the mirror. The democrats have turned me completely off, by their hypocrisy, lies, and corruption.

  • meiyingsu

    kostner,

    it is said that Governor Palin is a very good debater.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Someone on riverdaughter blog had tapes of her debating Alaska gov, and she was very good.

  • Idunn

    it amazes me that these folks who swear Obama is the new politician refuse to look at the FACTS. All I can say is it is up to the adults in the room to make sure these hucksters do not gain control of the Government, or caucus fraud will be “the good old days”

    Which is the main reason I’m voting McCain. Sarah Palin being a woman is a bonus, but it has absolutely nothing to do with why I’m voting the way I’m voting.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Oh, yeah. As someone here always says, I don’t want my country turned over to Children of he Corn.

  • Idunn

    I want the entire Democratic party held accountible for what was allowed to go on in this election.

    How do I do that? I vote McCain.

  • admin

    Shepard Smith on Fox just reported the latest Nielsen figures. Approximately 37 million households watched Palin last night.

  • HillaryforTexas

    WOW! I’ll bet she charmed a good chunk of those.

  • Illinois Underground

    Who Vetted Obama?
    By Cliff Kincaid
    September 3, 2008

    The Washington Post reported that John McCain’s vetting process for picking Governor Sarah Palin included an FBI background check. Other reports dispute this. But when did the FBI investigate Obama? Who vetted him?

    We are living witnesses to an incredible media double standard, whereby a Republican vice-presidential candidate’s personal life is being torn apart, while the Democratic presidential candidate continues to get a free ride. Obama has a 30 year history of associating with unsavory characters, beginning with communist Frank Marshall Davis and continuing with Jeremiah Wright and communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, which should disqualify him from getting a security clearance in the government that he wants to run.

    But the media would rather talk about Republicans and sex.

    The leftist DailyKos website started digging into Palin’s past and claimed that her fifth child wasn’t really hers. The charge fell apart when pictures surfaced of the governor pregnant with the child.

    Nevertheless, the media, which have been so quick to ignore questions about Obama’s background, joined in the inquiry into Palin’s private family matters and forced the governor to disclose that one of their daughters is pregnant out of wedlock. This is what passes for investigative reporting these days.

    A daughter’s pregnancy, of course, has nothing to do with whether Palin is fit for the job of vice-president or even president and is entitled to a security clearance. But one’s associations with communists who hate the United States might emerge as a cause for concern.

    It is worth noting that the DailyKos site is the same site that a liberal blogger named Lee Stranahan says banned his comments about Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards needing to answer reports that he had had an extramarital affair. Those reports, which came from the “tabloid” National Enquirer and not from any “respectable” major media outlet, turned out to be true.

    It also turns out that the DailyKos got the leak from the Obama campaign of the candidate’s alleged birth certificate, an announcement intended to put to rest all of the questions about whether Obama is a natural born citizen and passes the basic constitutional requirement to be president. Is the document real? I have not seen any investigative reporters from the major media assigned to this story. Instead, they’re sniffing around Palin’s family, which is something they had no desire to do while John Edwards was cheating on his cancer-stricken wife.

    In contrast to the Palin story, which will probably continue for weeks, the Obama birth certificate controversy has been left alone by the major media. They have simply assumed – because they favor his candidacy – that Obama, with a history of being moved from country to country under different names, is a legitimate U.S. citizen. A lawsuit has been filed challenging Obama’s qualifications to be president and some bloggers say the birth certificate is a fraud. But it’s not an issue for the major media. They would rather examine photos of Bristol Palin’s tummy.

    An FBI investigation of Obama might get at the truth about the Democratic candidate. But an FBI background check is something that the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party has not been forced to undergo. How many people even know that?

    But whether the FBI investigated Palin is now becoming a controversy.

    In contrast to the focus on Palin and her family, the Post on August 24 ran a 10,000-word piece about Barack Obama’s growing-up years in Hawaii that completely ignored the role of his acknowledged mentor, communist Frank Marshall Davis. There was not one word devoted to an identified communist, who also stands accused of drug use, alcohol abuse, and child molesting, being in intimate contact with the Democratic presidential nominee for about nine years of his young life.

    The author of that Post story, David Maraniss, told us that he didn’t think Frank Marshall Davis was worth even one mention in that 10,000-word story. He even said that Obama’s own book was incorrect in ascribing a significant role to Davis in mentoring the candidate. As the facts show, Davis became Obama’s father-figure when his real father abandoned the family. The mystery is why Obama only referred to Davis as “Frank” in his book and concealed his true identity. But the Post doesn’t want its readers to know anything about it. But we do have a right to know that Bristol Palin is pregnant.

    It will be coming out that Obama’s mentor, Davis, was the subject of an FBI investigation for 19 years and that his FBI file is 600 pages long. Davis was included in the FBI’s “security index,” meaning that he could be arrested and detained in the event of a national security emergency. But the young person he sent off to college, who would admittedly attend socialist conferences and pick Marxist professors as his friends, doesn’t have to undergo an FBI background check and will run the FBI should he become president.

    In contrast to the coverage of Palin, the major media have not highlighted that, for all of his “experience” in foreign affairs, Senator Joseph Biden, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate, is an exposed and admitted plagiarist. I have watched countless hours of coverage of the campaign on the cable and broadcast networks and haven’t seen one detailed story about Biden’s history of plagiarism.

    But can you imagine the outcry if it came out that Palin, who graduated from college in journalism and became a sportscaster, had been caught plagiarizing?

    Meanwhile, the Obama campaign is already claiming to have found a skeleton in Palin’s closet. An Obama spokesman, Marak Bubriski, charged that Palin once supported Pat Buchanan for president because she was spotted years ago wearing a Pat Buchanan button. And since Buchanan has been charged by some with being a “Nazi sympathizer,” that means that Palin is tainted and has to explain herself. Buchanan, a commentator on MSNBC and columnist, has exposed this as nonsense. But he is not the main target, of course. It is Palin and McCain. It is a campaign dirty trick designed to smear the Republican ticket and hurt its chances with Jewish voters.

    Assuming that this is a legitimate topic, when will Obama explain his association with a Moscow-line Communist for nine years of his life? And his failure to come clean about that relationship in his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father? This seems to be more serious than wearing a button.

    For the record, it is reported that Palin actually supported Steve Forbes and wore the Buchanan button as a courtesy to the candidate when he visited Alaska. In a related development, pro-Israel bloggers claim to have seen photos and video of an Israeli flag on Palin’s left lapel and an Israeli flag in her office. So it would appear that she is a supporter of Israel, the exact opposite of what the Obama campaign was trying to imply. Now that this is out of the way, how will Obama explain Davis? Or will he ever be asked to?

    For its part, the Washington Post has assigned at least two reporters to dig up dirt on Palin. One controversy is that Palin is under investigation for trying to fire a state trooper who threatened members of her family. On two straight days, August 30 and 31, Post reporters James V. Grimaldi and Kimberly Kindy authored articles about whether this trooper should have been fired or not, and what role Palin played in the controversy.

    Since trying to fire a trooper who threatened your family doesn’t strike most people as improper or illegal, the Post now seems to be taking a new direction. The Tuesday paper carries a page one story about how, when Palin was mayor of a town in Alaska, she sought federal grants.

    Tomorrow it will be something else.

    McCain has a blogger, Michael Goldfarb, (web site) who is supposed to be an attack dog when it comes to media misdeeds. He calls a report by Elisabeth Bumiller of the Times “fiction” and offers her a link to the McCain press line.

    This is said to be tough stuff from the McCain campaign. They obviously don’t understand what they’re up against.

    newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff247.htm

  • basil9

    OMG!
    This is from a repub but it’s so beautiful i had to post portions of it. From NQ.

    “As a 42 year old man, I found myself stunned last night as I noticed I was wiping tears off my face. I love my country. But I’ve been worried about it, worried about it in ways that kept me up at night. My party had dissolved around me, overtaken by right-wing zealots who cared not for America, but only for Washington and the almighty dollar.

    Last night, a strong, vibrant, eloquent, fierce, feminine and accomplished woman restored my faith in my country and in my party. Sarah Palin, if she does indeed ascend to the vice-presidency, is the female incarnation of Ronald Reagan for those of us who remember, as children, Reagan.

    But my tears turned to open sobs at the end when John McCain walked out on that stage because I realized that it was his gut feeling, his intuition and his complete lack of ego that led him to giving Sarah Palin to the world. See, it takes an amazingly strong man to choose a woman like Sarah to help him lead. Because you just KNOW that John McCain understands who she is, what she will do and what she means for the country. “You come with me Sarah, I will give you the chance and I will revel in the light that shines from you as you eclipse me, as you move past me and as you captivate this country. Because this isn’t about me, this is about America. You will do great things for this country and I will rest easy in the knowledge that I played a small part in helping your ascent.” I was so proud of John McCain because HE WAS HAPPY FOR HER. Yes, she is almost assuredly going to allow him to become president. But after everything that has happened in this campaign, does anyone honestly think that John McCain is doing this for anything but his country. His joy at being able to mentor this person into the national spotlight is palpable. It is something that you simply do not see in modern politics. It is a unique and stunningly singular moment in American Political History.

  • basil9

    I heard it was 38 million. ;-D

    Also heard McCain has to compete against some football game tonight and let’s not forget BO on Fox.

    Will anyone volunteer to watch bill-O?

  • skmf12

    okay people help me out here… pleeeaaasse…

    i got into it with two people at work today. two men, one straight, one gay. they asked me if i watched palin last night, they were calling her a liar and phoney. i told them i loved her. they started in on the republicans are not for poor people, they dont like gays, they dont like non whites, and they are war mongers…

    they told me sarah lied about the bridge to nowhere, cause they said she may have stopped that, but she got an earmark for a train going to her tiny town…
    they said she is a war monger, and she wants to push her religious agenda…

    i got my talking points down, so i hit them on the ‘i really dont care’, i want to see someone strong, i want someone who is not racist, and a woman is a good start thing. but it was weak…

    HELP ME!

    ADMIN, are you willing to give me some talking points? i know you arent sure yet about what you are going to do… but could you work with me here?

    THANKS…

  • skmf12

    i got my talking points down= I DONT HAVE MY TALKING POINTS DOWN!

  • neetabug

    Basil Admim put the stats up. I asked the question are there any stats for C Span

  • birdgal

    skmf: Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, Communist Davis, Chicago corrupt political machine.

  • HillaryforTexas

    OMG, Obama campaign is on the news outlets with uncomfortable- sounding women who are so very very VERY insistent that Democratic women can find NOTHING to relate to or admire in Palin. Hockey mom? Stony silence. Working mother? Glare. Self-made politician, mayor? No! CHOICE CHOICE CHOICE! Nothing in common. Nope.

    Zero Zip Nada, I tell you! No No NO! You wimminz have NOTHING IN COMMON!! STFU and ride the train!!!! (Please please please Bambi tell me I did good, I tried, I tried so hard to tell them…)

  • neetabug

    You know it seems the Democratics eat their young. Republicans stand by theirs and praises them

  • texan4hillary

    NOW IT STARTS FOLKS:

    After viewing Palin’s speech, a greater number of respondents across all parties believe that selecting Governor Sarah Palin for vice president will help John McCain’s campaign. Republicans were especially positive about the implications of this pick, nearly three-quarters of whom suggest that this nomination will “definitely help” his campaign. After viewing the speech, 70% Republicans say they will “definitely” vote for the McCain/Palin ticket after viewing Palin’s speech.

    There is a positive change in how independents anticipate voting in the Presidential election after viewing Palin’s speech, with a 9% increase among independents indicating that they will probably or definitely vote for the McCain/Palin ticket after watching the speech.

    Palin’s speech proved to be equally effective in swaying votes for both men and women. Among the independents who watched her speech, respondents who report that they will “probably” or “definitely” vote for McCain increased by 10% across both genders, around 38% of female independents and 36% of their male counterparts.

    http://www.mediacurves.com/Politics/J6992-Palin/Index.cfm

  • skmf12

    I must acknowledge. that last night when i saw john mccain walk out on the stage, i thought, oh no, he’s go to do some impromtu speech and steal the spot light. but i was very surprised, that he didnt, he only wanted to give her his approval… and i was surprised… obama would have never done that…

  • skmf12

    birdgal,

    i discussed those ofcourse, but these people are democrats, that think if we vote republican, we will be screwing the working class, and minorities…

    and lets face it, its what i always thought…

  • hwc

    skmf12:

    I just say,

    I am voting for the Party willing to nominate a strong woman for the two highest offices in the country and take a stand against the sexist attacks from the media.”

    When they come back with a bunch of gobbledygook, I say:

    I look forward to day in the future when the Democratic Party is also willing to nominate and support female candidates. Then, I will have the luxury of choosing which most closely matches my views on all of the issues. But, we obviously aren’t there yet.

  • birdgal

    Skmf: Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree.

    Personally, I think BO will not help anyone, except his Chicago buddies.

  • birdgal

    It’s amazing that more democrats don’t recognize how corrupt the democratic party really is, and that the “election” was a selection. They don’t recognize that the roll call vote was a farce, and performed in such a way, as to humiliate Hillary. The nomination was stolen from Hillary.

  • Idunn

    I just say, “Obama”. The republican party could put up Atilla The Hun, and I’d vote for Atilla before I’d vote for Obama. Why? because with Atilla, at least you’d know what the hell you were getting.

  • skmf12

    hwc,

    ” look forward to day in the future when the Democratic Party is also willing to nominate and support female candidates. Then, I will have the luxury of choosing which most closely matches my views on all of the issues. But, we obviously aren’t there yet.”
    *************
    THANK YOU

    yes i can just not go anywhere else, i’ll keep it to the woman issue. ofcourse men just think thats insane, but owell… still i would like to convince some men to come on board as well…

  • HillaryforTexas

    I am not worried about what “they” will say. They should have thought of that sooner.

    As they say in Russia, Toughskies Shitskies

  • HillaryforTexas

    birdgal, even if he had barely enough delegates and would have won by a nose anyway, they strong-armed and cheated to give him a bigger count. And why? So Precious wouldn’t LOOK BAD. They scorned and humiliated Hillary, and stomped on her historic accomplishment, just to massage his FUCKING HUMONGOUS EGO.

    And I will never forgive that. NEVER.

  • debbie

    turndownobama

    sent you an email…just got on the board and saw your message from “early” morning

  • skmf12

    okay,

    i just have to get my rap down…
    i’m not trying to defend my position, i thought i should try to bring others onboard. i guess i better pick my fights…

  • hwc

    still i would like to convince some men to come on board as well

    I’m a guy.

    I wish I could convince the two yellow dog Democrat women in my family. They both despise Obama. They both know the Democratic Party gave women the okie-doke. They both will vote for Obama and acknowledge that the would probably vote for the Democrats even if Charles Manson were the nominee.

    It’s killing my wife. She is blown away by Sarah. Keeps saying, “Wow, she’s a real fireball”. I just leave them be.

  • basil9

    Oh JEEEEZZZZ!

    Obama at a press conference today being asked by a reporter how working as a community organizer is relevant to the presidency!
    LMAO!
    He can barely answer coz he’s so mad!

    i gotta admit, i still don’t get wth a community organizer does.!

  • texan4hillary

    cindy mccain disagrees with palin on abortion rights etc.. interesting
    http://www.apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D9302M281.html

  • basil9

    More from PC.

    When asked about charges that Palin has been treated in a sexist maneer BO’s respose is:

    “Well, if you want to work the refs it’s their judgment. . . ”

    ooooohhhh . . . he is MAD!!!!!

  • basil9

    Idunn,

    I’d even vote for Vlad the Impaler over BO. :wink:

  • HillaryforTexas

    basil, is there a link? What channel? I want to see him lose his touchy little cool.

  • skmf12

    hwc,

    yeah but what worries me, is if we lose alot of those 18million, cause they are afraid to go repub for a day… and we end up with o…

  • carbynew

    skmf12:

    Tell them I trust Gov. Sarah Palin and she has a 80% approval rating in Alaska and is a reformer, thinks out the box, has an administration mixed with democrats, independents and republicans.

  • skmf12

    carby,

    good one!

  • JanH

    Woman Democrats strike back against Sarah Palin?

    Again I ask where the hell they were when Hillary was treated like a piece of garbage? Shame on them. This just reeks of hypocrisy!

  • basil9

    More from the BO press conference today. (transcribing from radio)

    Boy is he angry, defensive and nervous.

    – Any questions uhhh . . about her work in alaska . . . uhhhh . . . being relevant to her being VP of the US doesn’t make any sense to me

    – She’s got a compelling story but I assume she wants to be treated the same way as guys and so her records should be put under scrutiny!!!!!!!!!

    - I’ve been campaigning for 19 months, she’s been through it for 4 days so far?

  • HillaryforTexas

    Alaska is not the Bible Belt. They are individualists, but not weirdos.

    You DO NOT get a 80 to 90% approval rating in Alaska if you are some batshit crazy wild-eyed religious zealot, as they are trying to paint her.

  • basil9

    h4t,

    It’s on hannity. it was taped earlier today either just before or after he did the O’Reilly interview.

    later I will check the archives and see if i can find it. For now i’m just typing as SH plays excerpts.

  • birdgal

    Jan: Indeed. Shame on them.

    Carby: I love that answer. I’ll use that one too.

  • kostner

    Rating blowout… Just slightly fewer viewerships than Obama’s speech… Absolutely astonishing considering she’s just running for VP. Most importantly, $5 million more WOMEN tuned in to watch Palin than Obama’s speech. Women will swing the election in the end, and Palin will be great asset to help McCain close gap among women.

    ———————
    Alaska Governor Sarah Palin can give a good speech, and the Republican vice presidential nominee can also draw an audience.

    Nielsen Co. reported this afternoon that an estimated 37 million people watched her address on the three broadcast networks, plus CNN, FOX News Channel, and MSNBC. That’s just 1.1 million shy of the record audience for Barack Obama’s acceptance speech last week, which was carried on four other cable networks as well, Nielsen said.

    And her audience compares to 24 million who tuned in last Wednesday when Senator Joe Biden accepted the Democratic vice presidential nod, and 21 million who watched the GOP convention on Tuesday night.

    Nielsen also noted that 19.5 million women watched Wednesday night, 4.9 million more than a week ago for the Democratic convention.

    PBS, meanwhile, reported that 3.2 million viewers watched its coverage Wednesday night — the second highest viewership during either convention behind only Obama’s acceptance speech, which drew 3.5 million on that network. Its number for Wednesday night was far higher than the 1.9 million on Tuesday night.

    That makes Palin’s total at least 40 million. Obama’s acceptance address drew more than 40 million viewers total.

  • birdgal

    Isn’t is odd that the #2 on one ticket is being compared to the #1 on the other ticket?

    Shouldn’t they be talking about #1 and #1? In an ideal world, I know, but Palin has changed the dynamics of this race. They are looking for any type of dirt on her. I see it, on other blogs.

  • Paula

    Obama’s used that “play the refs” line before, when he was running against HRC.

  • skmf12

    la times:

    The “unity’’ convention in Denver is over. But some Hillary Clinton delegates are back home in California stewing over what they describe as pressure from Barack Obama allies to create a false image of overwhelming support for the new Democratic presidential nominee.

    The Clinton delegates say that during the four-day conclave, Obama delegates opposed efforts to schedule a full, 50-state roll call vote that would attest to Clinton’s true support. What happened instead was an abbreviated roll call vote, cut off by Clinton herself so that Obama would be nominated by acclamation.

    As part of that push, some of the Clinton backers grouse, Obama supporters made plain through pointed remarks that the Clinton delegates needed to switch sides and vote for the eventual nominee.

    A fair amount of that happened. The final delegate tally was 3,188.5 for Obama; 1,010.5, Clinton, according to numbers released today by the Democratic National Committee. When the primary season….

    …ended in June, the tally was much closer, with Clinton trailing Obama in delegates by less than a 10% margin.

    Within the huge California delegation, lots of Clinton delegates got with the program. Although she handily won the state’s primary back in February, the California convention vote — as belatedly recorded — was Obama, 273; Clinton, 166.

    Diana Madoshi, a Clinton delegate from Rocklin, Calif., said: “It was sort of phony. We had to show all this unity. Well, if you’re pressing people to get on the same train and they’re not ready, that’s not true unity. The roll call vote should have been genuine. I don’t think it served us by it not being genuine.’’

    Raymond Penko, a Clinton delegate from San Diego who campaigned door-to-door for her, said it was difficult to get Clinton signs onto the floor of Denver’s Pepsi Center. Some of the New York senator’s supporters wound up using roll-up signs that could be tucked away and smuggled into the arena, he said.

    There was even discussion of using body paint to transmit pro-Clinton messages.

    Added Penko: “There was pressure all around to conform to what I would call the old boys club. There was pressure to conform to the unity ticket. As soon as Obama delegates heard that one was a Hillary supporter, they would shun you, tell you to get over it, say ‘Stop being a cry baby. What’s your problem? Don’t you want to win in November?’ ’’

    Both Penko and Los Angeles attorney Gloria Allred (shown above) circulated a petition for a full roll call vote. They couldn’t round up enough signatures.

    Allred, a Clinton delegate well-known in Southern California for her public-relations flair, grew frustrated last week with what she saw as efforts to muzzle her and, as The Ticket noted, showed up at a delegation breakfast one morning with a gag made up of restaurant napkins.

    She’s still not happy with what transpired at the Democratic gathering.

    “This was a scripted convention,’’ she said earlier this week. “There really was no room for dissent for Hillary supporters. Not even room for discussion.’’

    – Peter Nicholas

  • birdgal

    Obama’s used that “play the refs” line before, when he was running against HRC.

    What does that mean?

  • kostner

    Sarah Palin bio video RNC skipped last night due to Rudy’s longer speech. Hopefully they’ll play it tonight at prime time.

    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRoiVWfLyU

  • hwc

    Obama complaining about playing the refs? Now, that’s rich.

    No surprise he’s pissed off. It’s been quite obvious that he hates women, “doncha know, sweetie”.

  • birdgal

    The democratic party=Taliban party.

  • basil9

    Paula,

    I don’t know what ‘play the refs” means, either.

    Can you explain?

  • kostner

    The new Biden gaffe… Sarah is lieutenant governor of Alaska,

    ———————
    Campaigning in Virginia today, Biden accidentally demoted Palin from governor to lieutenant governor.

    “And the other thing I heard, I heard a very — by the way, I mean this sincerely — a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska, who I think is going to be very formidable, very formidable… But I was equally impressed by what I didn’t hear, what I didn’t hear in the speech.”

  • basil9

    Kostner,

    I read it was because HER speech went on twice as long as scheduled; 40 minutes instead of 20 coz of the prolonged applause?

  • Paula

    Rove on what McCain needs to do tonight:

    news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080904/pl_politico/13157

  • basil9

    Jeeeezzz,

    Poor joe. He’s not such a bad guy. I caught him on a couple of morning shows and he spoke VERY highly of Palin. He sounded very sincere.

    BTW, Sean says he ran into Coward in St. Paul and he didn’t look so good. hehehehe.

  • Paula

    basil9, It means trying to manipulate the media.

  • kostner

    New CBS poll shows McCain and Bambi tied at 42%, the poll was conducted from Monday to Wednesday….

    Last weekend, it’s Obama 48, McCain 40…

  • basil9

    I’m wincing. I repeat, poor Joe. I read in a couple of places he didn’t want the vp slot.

    “But I was equally impressed by what I didn’t hear, what I didn’t hear in the speech.”

    :oops:

  • kostner

    basil9 ,

    I’m always okay with Biden, don’t believe he’s obnoxious, but geez, this guy is boring …

  • texan4hillary

    From thongs to T-shirts, it’s Sarah wear
    ‘Our mama beats your Obama’ among the quick creations

    By ELIZABETH BLUEMINK
    ebluemink@adn.com

    (09/03/08 01:58:09)
    Local and Internet-based businesses are cranking out Sarah Palin products — from “Palin Power” maternity T-shirts to “Wonder Palin” thong underwear.

    One Anchorage entrepreneur, Jim Dooley, printed about 700 John McCain/Palin shirts this weekend, delivering the first batch to the Alaska State Fair by 4 p.m. Friday.

    They sold out every day.

    Dooley declined to say how much money he made on the pro-Palin shirts during Alaska’s biggest summer bash.

    But it was enough to “pay for my turkey legs and pork-chop on a stick,” he said.

    Alaska Serigraphics, an Anchorage company, said it will produce pro-Palin T-shirts that will be offered for sale at downtown gift shops, possibly as soon as Friday.

    “Our mama beats your Obama,” reads one of the company’s T-shirt designs.

    The company is also producing pro-Obama T-shirts, noted John Williams, the production manager.

    The buzz over Palin’s selection as McCain’s running mate on Friday has other local businesses and Palin advocates seeing potential dollar signs.

    Trish Houser, the creator of Palintology, an Anchorage-based pro-Palin Web site, has run the site as a personal hobby for two years. She’s considering putting ads on it to generate income for the first time.

    “Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?,” she said Tuesday.

    After Friday’s big news, “I went from 100 hits a day to 10,000 hits per day,” Houser said, adding that she spent about 20 hours keeping the site updated over the Labor Day weekend.

    Houser is mulling over potential Google ads on the site. She’s also talking to a local company about printing up “Palintology” T-shirts for sale in Alaska.

    Alaskans aren’t the only ones cashing in.

    One of the country’s major Web-based T-shirt retailers, Cafe Press, said its members from around the world had created 2,310 Palin-related items for sale by 5:30 a.m. Alaska time on Friday, even before Republican presidential candidate McCain had officially announced Palin as his running mate.

    “It’s fascinating to see how (the sellers) jump onto news items,” said Marc Cowlin, the San Mateo, Calif.-based company’s spokesman. By Tuesday, at least 93,600 items mentioning Palin were for sale on its Web site. But Cowlin didn’t know how many had actually sold.

    Among the items for sale on Cafe Press: Pro-McCain/Palin baby bibs, T-shirts, thong underwear, political signs and bumper stickers.

    Dorene Lorenz, a Seward artist who hawks some of her designs online, didn’t get busy until midnight on Monday.

    By Tuesday morning, she had pro-Palin T-shirts up for sale on the Web site Zazzle.

    “It was purely for entertainment,” Lorenz said, adding that she was disappointed that McCain didn’t pick Mitt Romney as his running mate.

  • basil9

    Paula!!!!

    You gotta be kidding!!!!

    BO is claiming Palin’s trying to manipulate the press!!!
    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

    :shock:

  • Paula

    BTW, I find it entirely plausible that the DNC pushed Biden into taking the VP spot. He said months ago he didn’t want to be asked to be VP, and I know he’s perfectly happy in the Senate, where’s he got tons of seniority.

  • basil9

    He’s definitely loopy but I’ve always found him endearing in an absent-minded-professor way.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I heard he was told he had to take a bullet for the party. If so, I feel sorry for him.

  • Berkeley Vox

    basil9, the “community organizer” line of attack is perfect, and I remember wondering why no one called BHO on it during the primaries. That schmaltzy Obama biography video that aired in Denver was packed with references to Bambi’s golden glory days as a community organizer, as if that was supposed to somehow be impressive. Sure, it’s helped him as a CAMPAIGNER, but there’s a huge difference between campaigning and actually governing. Obama is just one big self-promoting hype machine, as we all know.

    Putting Obama on the defensive is a smart move, because he’s a hot-head and doesn’t respond well to criticism. When he tries to rebut attacks, he either does it weakly (umm, on the one hand, and on the other hand, blah blah), or he does it too forcefully. There’s no middle ground. Also, the vast majority of Obama’s work as a community organizer — according to Obama himself — was organizing church leaders and getting them to help the inner city in Chicago. So think about it — every time Obama is forced to answer, he reminds everyone of his Rev. Wright connections.

    The Obama campaign made a big mistake in Denver by emphasizing his community organizer background, over and over. And now they’ve got to deal with it!

  • basil9

    Interesting stat.

    Palins speech carried on only 6 channels while BO’s was carried on 10 and she still attracted almost as many viewers as him.

  • Paula

    Exactly, basil9. That’s why it’s so laughable.

    I like Biden, too. He’s a good guy, and I don’t envy the position he’s in right now.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Biden is kind of an old bastard, and he DISGUSTED me with Anita Hill hearings, but he’s like that neighbor that you roll your eyes at but think is okay, too. I can call him names, but I can’t really DESPISE him

  • mp

    skmf12:

    A few days ago, I put up my 20 points “why I could live with McCain for 4 yrs”…actually I put it up when Sarah was announced last friday.
    Use those pointers…..

    I refuse to make my focus on Sarah who I have come to admire more every day….(secretly I am happy to voting for her now since she is awesome)

  • kostner

    Potential “First Dude” Todd Palin Speaks at Cindy McCain Tribute
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    ABC News’ Jennifer Duck Reports: You might say Todd Palin was part of the First Wives Club today at the Minneapolis Hilton in “a Tribute to Cindy McCain.”

    Elisabeth Hasselbeck of “The View” was MC at the luncheon and introduced Cindy McCain and Todd Palin as “the next First Lady and future first Second Man.”

    Hasselbeck added, “You better get your game face on because America fell in love with your wife last night.”

    Palin, who is new to the national spotlight, explained in a soft spoken tone that the experience is “unbelievable” and said with a smile, “Is it just me or do things move quick around here? Just a few nights ago I was on the north slope working the night shift and here I am today.”

    “I don’t have to tell you that the Palin family has had quite a week,” Palin added. “You never know what the future has in store for you.”

    “I should’ve asked a few more questions when Sarah joined the PTA,” Palin joked. “When my wife starts talking about reform, corruption and making government work for the American people, it’s best to just move out of the way.”

    Cindy McCain said she was “proud” of her husband’s choice in a running mate.

    “She is tough, tenacious, and takes on the establishment,” the potential First Lady said. “She is someone who understands you don’t have to be a Washingtonian to take on Washington.”

    McCain also joked it was nice not having to worry about wearing the same outfit as the VP nominee’s spouse.

    The Governor of Alaska’s husband has said in the past he prefers the title “First Dude.” And if the Republican’s win the White House it’s possible he would change that title to “Second Dude.”

    Although Former President Bill Clinton liked to refer to himself as “the First Lad” when his wife was campaigning for the Oval Office, Todd Palin would be the first male to play the role of White House spouse.

    Gov. Sarah Palin described her husband last night as “a story all by himself.”

    “He’s a lifelong commercial fisherman, a production operator in the oil fields of Alaska’s North Slope, a proud member of the United Steel Workers’ Union, and world champion snow machine racer,” Palin said in her address to the Republican National Convention Wednesday night.

    “We met in high school, and two decades and five children later he’s still my guy.”

    A hot topic of conversation has been the amount of time Gov. Palin would have for her five children, and soon-to-be grandchild, if the Republicans win the presidential race.

    McCain advisor Carly Fiorina hit this topic head-on at the beginning of the light-hearted luncheon.

    “I’m proud and outraged to have to defend sexist attacks by the media,” Fiorina said. “We women all see it and recognize it and say it for what it is.”

    Other speakers and performers at the luncheon included country singer Clay Walker and actor John Voight.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Someone on RD blog says what Palin did last night:

    field-dressed the DNC’s moose

    LMAO!!!

  • skmf12

    ADMIN,

    riverdaughter has this up, can we post?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM

  • basil9

    H4T,

    LMAO!

    New poll shows 49% of voters think the press is trying to sabotage Palin.

  • texan4hillary

    the cbs poll is neat-mccain winning married women and near ties with all women. 67pct hillary supporters bac obama. still not good. he will need em all. mccains has erased the entie dem conv bump
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml

  • kostner

    I think the current situation is putting Hillary into a difficult position. Bambi will definitely want to use her more as surrogate. I sincerely hope Hillary is smart enough to get as far as possible.

    First of all, voters do not vote surrogates. Second, political goodwill can be squandered in just one minute. Hillary can’t be perceived by the media and voters as an attack dog, she will be ridiculed to another ‘jeolous’ also-runners.

    Hillary’s biggest asset is her composure and grace under pressure. To preserve her own political future, she should not, can not , must not lose this.

  • carbynew

    I believe that in order to have real change in the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY is to vote for the McCain/Palin ticket and clean house.

    THROW THOSE BUMS OUT!!!!

    The dems are SEXIST, MYSOGINIST and ARROGANT IDIOTS!!!

    THEY HAVE TAKEN WOMEN SUPPORT FOR GRANTED and treat us as an abuse wife. Gloria ALLRED and the rest of the SO-CALLED FEMMINST have lost their credibility and power.

    They don’t get it!

    They have NO power in the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY, they’re being pimped and served by the male elites in their own party…bend over and shut up is what has been told to them. It’s embassarring and sad to see how little respect the democratic women on tv have with their masters….my stomach hurt looking at them.

    Now, look at us…we are free of the bondage that surround our sisters in the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY. We stand TALL and STAND UP for our right for all WOMEN and LEAD by EXAMPLE.

    WE OWN OUR VOTES!

    McCain/Palin 08

  • mp

    Maybe Biden is making those gaffes deliberately……
    After all, he can go back to the senate as the chairmen…
    He wanted to be Sec. of state..I hope mcCain wins and makes him one.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Thanks T4H — here’s the full text. Wow:

    ——–
    CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied

    -Sept. 4, 2008 (CBS)

    The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent to 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn’t vote.

    This is in contrast to a poll conducted last weekend, where the Obama-Biden ticket led McCain-Palin by eight points, 48 percent to 40 percent.

    McCain has also closed the enthusiasm gap some with Obama, but it still exists. Fifty-five percent of Obama’s supporters are enthusiastic about their choice, and now so are 35% of McCain’s. Last weekend, just 25 percent of McCain’s supporters were enthusiastic about him, compared to 67 of Obama’s supporters.

    This week’s polling continues to show voters waiting to decide about Sarah Palin (see yesterday’s poll on Palin). But in interviewing done yesterday, 83 percent of registered voters said that spouse and family of a candidate will not affect their votes.

    Other factors within the race and overall opinions of the candidates, however, have remained similar from this weekend.

    Thirty-eight percent say they have a favorable view of Obama, compared 34 percent unfavorable and 27 percent undecided. For McCain, it’s 37 percent favorable, 36 percent unfavorable and 27 percent undecided.

    McCain maintains his large advantage on the likelihood of being an effective commander-in-chief – 46 percent of voters say it is “very likely” McCain would be an effective commander-in-chief, compared to 24 percent who say that about Obama.

    But McCain still has one big deficit to make up — just 44 percent of voters say he understands their needs and problems, compared with 60 percent who say that about Obama.

    In the poll, Obama continues to have a lead with women voters, 43 percent to 38 percent, while McCain has the edge with men, 46 percent to 41 percent. As has been standard in this campaign, voters under age 45 are backing Obama, while older voters are supporting McCain.

    McCain wins the support of married voters and Obama has the backing of voters who are not married. It should be noted, though, that most married voters are older while those who are not married tend to be younger.

    Independents in this poll are divided. In the poll conducted over the weekend, Obama had a six-point advantage with this group, but now the lead is three points, 39 percent to 36 percent.

    The poll also shows that the majority of Clinton supporters continue to support Obama – 67 percent in this poll, up from 58 percent last weekend.

    McCain has seen a similar uptick from white evangelicals since the weekend – 66 percent now, up from 57 percent.

  • moononpluto

    This is the same CBS poll that polls 13% more dems than Republicans, so i’d say McCains in bloody good shape.

  • jonnyB

    without Missouri, you lose

    Obama will not win MO

  • moononpluto

    Ro be honest, I think the republicans have put all things aside with McCain because i sense they see the danger that is Obama, right now I think the GOP would vote for a rabbit if it kept Obama out of the WH.

    They have finally realised that the man is dangerous.

  • skmf12

    mp,

    could you put them up again?
    pllllleeeaaasssee…..

  • carbynew

    WOMEN, WE ARE BIGGER THEN WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY thinks of us. Our concerns should NOT be dictated by males and jealous females to support their own ambitions and goals.

    All we’re asking is a fair opportunity of our potential but I see that is NOT going to happen for us as long as the current crop of leadership is in the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY.

  • moononpluto

    If McCain and Palin rouse the rural areas out and get them to vote in massive numbers, Obama will not stand a chance.

    Missouri, Penn, Michigan and areas like that will decide this, i think its the rural areas that will kill him. If its a repeat of what happened with Hillary in places like PA and WV and kentucky, Obama can forget it.

  • moononpluto

    I was just at Us Magazine And low there was a survey on Gov. Palin. Headed: After watching her speech do you think she would make a good VP. So far the results are:

    Yes 82.85%

    No 17.15.

    So far there have been 159,206 votes.

    She so hit that out of the park.

  • CountTheVotes

    Hillbuzz makes me laugh, though this is a serious matter. Here’s one of the current headlines:

    Chris Matthews officially running for Senate in Pennsylvania in 2010. In other news, thousands of people today decide to help Arlen Spector in any way they can.
    Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized

    Our strange friendship with Republicans looks like it will indeed extend beyond November 5th in three respects.

    (1) We will work with Republicans in Illinois to do everything we can to defeat SoetorObama when he tries to either keep his Senate seat in 2010, or run for Illinois governor. We’d rather see a Republican Senator or Governor in Illinois than allow this man to remain in office.

    (2) We will work for Arlen Spector to ensure sexist pig Chris Matthews does not win any elected office in his lifetime.

    (3) We will work for whoever challenges Claire McCaskill for her Senate seat in 2012.

    These three people should not hold elected office – and it’s our sincere hope we can mobilize enough Hillary Clinton supporters to make a difference in these races and ensure these three get what’s coming to them.

  • Paula

    moon, They probably interviewed more Repubs in this poll, lol.

    Also, almost all of this survey would’ve been done before Palin’s speech, which didn’t start till well after 10 p.m.

  • moononpluto

    lol

    Yes 83.61% 141077 votes

    No 16.39% 27658 voteses lol

    Thats the votes on US Magazine, those numbers are huge.

  • Berkeley Vox

    I just peeked at Daily Kooks, for laughs, and it’s pretty funny over there. Mild panic, masquerading as new-found resolve. As usual, Kos is running around, pontificating about how the netroots is changing politics forever, blah blah blah, and hawking some book he’s written about it, like some snake-oil salesmen.

    The attacks on Palin are bizarre and cringe-worthy: they’re all knee-jerk, personal attacks, which will only help doom Obama.

    I’m sure they hear those poll numbers, closing in on their heels…

  • Emjay

    I love it – On the worldwide BBC broadcast tonight, Dick Army just described BO “as substantial as water on a plate.”

    Clean, repeatable, easy to remember and directly on point.

  • moononpluto

    “as substantial as water on a plate.”

    could we be witnessing the turn of the media, its possible they may find mcCain and Palin more palatable, maybe Palin is the one they were waiting for, lol.

  • texan4hillary

    palin going after obama today-
    The GOP veep candidate settles into the role of attack dog, continues to bash her Democratic opponent while meeting with Republican governors at a Minneapolis museum Thursday.

    Says after the meeting that leading a state means you have to make decisions and not just vote “present.”

    She was indirectly referring to Obama’s days in the Illinois Senate, when he voted “present” dozens of times among the thousands of votes he cast in his eight years there. Permalink
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  • JanH

    Well Mr. Obama? Your over 50% sure disappeared quickly.

    Well Mr. Obama? So you have 19 months on the campaign trail as opposed to Palin’s 4 days? Er… I wonder how that equates to having the balls to lead a country? I mean she has been a mayor and you have only been a measly community organizer plus a few days as a senator.

    Well Mr. Obama? You have the media in your pocket. Not sure how much you paid out as a bribe, but if you’re going to accuse Palin of manipulating the media, I’m going to start laughing…

  • filbertsf

    carby, your posts are always so random.

    So Tweety is running for office? There is a God afterall. Just when I thought there was nothing in politics to interest me. Now I have a cause to fight against.

  • JanH

    And Mr. Obama, lets not forget about how she has been the governor of a state as well…oops…that is what you keep forgetting…sorry I forgot…

  • texan4hillary

    thepage-mccain speech converted to town halllike setting. will not emphasize social conserv issues. more on govt reform, accountability to the people etc…

  • moononpluto

    Palin slams Obama again at first solo event.

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jrhFOsVwX9jtDyUhy3zKCBVms8tgD93043G80

    MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Thursday took an immediate swipe at Democratic nominee Barack Obama in her first solo campaign appearance since joining the GOP ticket. The Alaska governor also issued a fund-raising appeal that blamed the Democratic presidential ticket for spreading “misinformation and flat-out lies” about her family and her.

    Palin met with Republican governors Thursday and said afterward that leading a state means you have to make decisions and not just vote “present.”

    “We don’t have a ‘present’ button as governor — we are expected to lead, we are expected to take action and not just vote ‘present,’” said Palin, who is in her first term as Alaska’s governor. “So there’s a big difference, of course, between the executive and legislative branches and our experience.”

    Palin was referring to Obama’s days in the Illinois Senate, when he voted “present” dozens of times among the thousands of votes he cast in his eight years there. The move is common among Illinois lawmakers, but has become a favorite Republican complaint about Obama.

  • moononpluto

    Nice friends there Barry (with video)

    http://www.gop.com/News/NewsRead.aspx?Guid=995af012-089b-4b97-8f25-7b64d9c48f53

    Obama: “I want to, first of all, acknowledge your great mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick. Who has been on the front lines doing an outstanding job of gathering together the leadership at every level in Detroit to bring about the kind of renaissance that all of us anticipate for this great city. He is a leader, not just here in Detroit, not just in Michigan, but all across the country people look to him. We know that he is going to be doing astounding things for many years to come. I’m grateful to call him a friend and a colleague and I’m looking forward to a lengthy collaboration in terms of making sure that Detroit does well in the future.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At Detroit Economic Club, Detroit, MI, 5/7/07)
    Obama: “I want to, first of all, acknowledge your great mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick. Who has been on the front lines doing an outstanding job of gathering together the leadership at every level in Detroit to bring about the kind of renaissance that all of us anticipate for this great city. He is a leader, not just here in Detroit, not just in Michigan, but all across the country people look to him. We know that he is going to be doing astounding things for many years to come. I’m grateful to call him a friend and a colleague and I’m looking forward to a lengthy collaboration in terms of making sure that Detroit does well in the future.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At Detroit Economic Club, Detroit, MI, 5/7/07)

    Obama: “I want to, first of all, acknowledge your great mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick. Who has been on the front lines doing an outstanding job of gathering together the leadership at every level in Detroit to bring about the kind of renaissance that all of us anticipate for this great city. He is a leader, not just here in Detroit, not just in Michigan, but all across the country people look to him. We know that he is going to be doing astounding things for many years to come. I’m grateful to call him a friend and a colleague and I’m looking forward to a lengthy collaboration in terms of making sure that Detroit does well in the future.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At Detroit Economic Club, Detroit, MI, 5/7/07)

  • Idunn

    Slam him on Rezko, Sarah!!

  • moononpluto

    In January 2006, seventeen months before Obama made these remarks, Kilpatrick was stripped of his special administrative discretion over Detroit city funds because he awarded over $150MM in no-bid contracts to a number of groups and individuals, including his own campaign manager.

    The investigation into those transactions is still ongoing.

  • moononpluto

    lol

    RNC RESTARTS BIDEN GAFFE CLOCK for the 6th time.

  • moononpluto

    Time Since Biden’s Last Gaffe: 00 Days, 02 Hours, 04 Min, 00 Sec.

    I love this thing, its hilarious.

  • wbboei

    I was thinking about this this morning after reading an article by Buchanan called If Obama Loses. Here are my thoughts on it.
    ————————————————
    The powers that be have done a grave disservice to America by framing this election as a contest between racial justice and our racist past. In doing so they have induced Black America in large numbers to embrace the Obama candidacy and Europeans plus the Third World to see it as a way for America to achieve a form of redemption. The fundamental problem with this construct is that Obama himself has few qualifications for the job, terrorist associates and questionable core beliefs. Furthermore, he is a human gaff machine with little understanding of the forces moving the world. Finally, he is not the kind of leader the nation needs at a time like this when we are faced with two wars, and a sinking economy. Therefore, the totalitarian attempt to promote his candidacy has created a zero sum game as follows: if we elect an unqualified candidate like Obama then it may prove to be a disaster for the country; whereas if we reject him because of it there will be widespread disillusion, recriminations and civil disorder. Thus, either way it is a losing proposition for the country. The people who framed the election in these terms must be held morally responsible for the consequences. If they felt it was important enough to elect a black man to move our nation past its racist past then it was incumbent upon them to nominate a qualified one like Colin Powell. But practical thinking has never been their strong suit.

  • moononpluto

    This page is very clever, modeled on facebook but funny have a look

    http://www.barackbook.com/

    Its actually ingenious.

  • magic007

    PUMA in effect……

    Let’s vote for Mccain/Palin….

    Prepare HRC 2012…………..

  • moononpluto

    http://www.barackbook.com/

    found this on the GOP site, its hilarious, its modelled on face book, in fact its ingenious whoever thought of it.

  • Idunn

    I think Magic might be a republican. ;)

  • birdgal

    moon: Too funny! The GOP has been pretty clever in their attacks on him.

  • Emjay

    McCaskill is up for reelection in 2012 is she? I am only 14 miles from the MO border, stupidly supported her in 2006, will expend equal amt of time and $$ to make her a MO memory.

  • moononpluto

    You mean the Obama campaign touts Obama’s two years as community organizer as great preparation for the Presidency?! Now I am laughing my leg off.

    Both Rudy Giuliani and Gov. Sarah Palin reserved some of their harshest lines last night to mock Barack Obama’s years working as a community organizer in Chicago, with Palin saying that it resembled her work as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, except that as a mayor “you have actual responsibilities.”

    The attacks may have been inevitable, given how much emphasis the Obama campaign has placed on that part of his resume. The campaign’s constant touting of Obama’s accomplishments as a community organizer has always been somewhat at odds with Obama’s own account in his 1995 memoir, (THE PUNCHLINE) in which he makes clear how frustrating and relatively unproductive the experience actually was.

    Obama was an organizer from roughly age 24 to 26 (so only 2 years of it)– after he graduated from Columbia University but before he went to Harvard Law School

  • basil9

    I haveta confess (don’t shot me) that I’m beginning to feel sorry for BO. I don’t think the dem fiasco is entirely his fault. I do think he’s been entirely (although willingly) manipulated, manufactured and directed by Deaniac, Brazille, Kennedy, Kerry, etc.

    Something about him reminds me of a naïve young woman who sees an ad for actress and goes to audition thinking she’s going to be a star only to end up on the mean streets of LA.

    I hope he loses the GE and then goes back to the senate where he can hone his skills and develop and expand his world-view. He might be ready to run again in another 8 years or so.

    As Judge Judy says, he’s just not fully cooked, yet.

  • filbertsf

    Our strange friendship with Republicans looks like it will indeed extend beyond November 5th in three respects.

    (1) We will work with Republicans in Illinois to do everything we can to defeat SoetorObama when he tries to either keep his Senate seat in 2010, or run for Illinois governor. We’d rather see a Republican Senator or Governor in Illinois than allow this man to remain in office.

    (2) We will work for Arlen Spector to ensure sexist pig Chris Matthews does not win any elected office in his lifetime.
    At this rate, we may not need to. Obama supporters are dead, dying or being thrown out of office.

    At

    (3) We will work for whoever challenges Claire McCaskill for her Senate seat in 2012.

    These three people should not hold elected office – and it’s our sincere hope we can mobilize enough Hillary Clinton supporters to make a difference in these races and ensure these three get what’s coming to them

  • moononpluto

    Basil are you nuts, the guy is a lying cheating nasty fraud who is self serving. He deserves nothing but being sacked and fired.

  • moononpluto

    Obama, this will really piss off his base, MAJOR FLIP FLIOP

    The troop surge in Iraq has been more successful than anyone could have imagined, Barack Obama conceded Thursday in his first-ever interview on FOX News.

    As recently as July, the Democratic presidential candidate declined to rate the surge a success, but said it had helped reduce violence in the country. Today, Obama acknowledged the 2007 increase in U.S. troops has benefited the Iraqi people.

    “I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”

    Hilarious, the guy will say anything.

  • rgb44hrc

    GETTING OUT OF HELPING PEOPLE WHO WON’T HELP THEMSELVES:

    kostner Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    I think the current situation is putting Hillary into a difficult position. Bambi will definitely want to use her more as surrogate. I sincerely hope Hillary is smart enough to get as far as possible.
    &&&&&

    Excuses Hillary can use to get out of rescuing Obama sorry arse:

    * I have a dental appointment, every day for the next 62 days.
    * I’m not a good surrogate for this particular audience, I’m “too divisive”
    * Chelsea’s baby sitter didn’t show up
    * I can’t leave Bill alone for too long, you know the story…
    * I’ve got obligations to help “someone” gear up for, um, this “thing”, in 2012…
    * you wouldn’t believe how much dusting the place needs while I was on the campaign trail for all those months
    * Betty is vacationing, and asked me to look in on Socks.

  • moononpluto

    Obama is in major doodoo after this major flipflop, he just admitted McCain was right all along. I’m pissing myself laughing. McCain has him by the balls now.

  • filbertsf

    moonpluto, where are you getting that quote?

  • Emjay

    Got two wonderful autographs for our girl last evening from Peggy Whitson, NASA Commander, Expedition 16. One says ‘for Hillary, Thanks for supporting NASA [signature].

    She wanted to be an astronaut…glad she ended up working for us instead.

  • filbertsf

    Do you guys here that 3AM phone call ringing?

    Uh, Hillary? Sorry to wake you, but uh, the RNC is picking on me.

  • birdgal

    Basil: YOU ARE NUTS.

  • rgb44hrc

    HERESY:

    basil9 Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    I haveta confess (don’t shot me) that I’m beginning to feel sorry for BO. I don’t think the dem fiasco is entirely his fault.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    The DNC were his patsies. He used ruthless means to start his winning streak. He is a fasc*st. I have no sympathy for Hitl*r. The has their own special place in Hell, but Obama has priority seating on that flight.

  • moononpluto

    The O’reilly interview tonight, Obama has just dropped himself in the shit.

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/

    I mean this is a 180 degree reversal, the dem base is going to flip out.

  • birdgal

    BO HAS FLIPPED-FLOPPED ON EVERY MAJOR ISSUE AND DECISION. IS HE TRYING TO LOSE THE ELECTION?

  • rgb44hrc

    Thinking Obama’s not all too blame?
    Next week contemplating voting for him?
    By October, why the heck not, an Obama yard sign?

    Basil, sorry if we’re piling on too hard, and your sympathy shows you to be a reflective individual. But ya gotta know that nothing could push our “button” more.

  • debbie

    hahaha rgb44hrc

    let me add

    all my pantsuits are at the cleaners

    my throat is sore and I can’t cackle

  • Emjay

    basil dearest.

    I won’t shoot you.

    Now get up from your workstation and go walk the birdies. They don’t need it, but you do.

    Luv, tweety Emjay

  • filbertsf

    basil, it’s a tough crowd here. But at least you weren’t accused of being an Obama supporter.

    Digressing…

    I heard on my local radio station (hosted by Billy Bush) last night that the Editor of Us Weekly is a big Obama supporter. The short segment was about celebrity rags that you should or shouldn’t be this week.

    Anyways, as they were previewing all the rags, the reviewer said that all of the magazines had Sarah Palin on the cover. People Mag had the most objective story, whereas Us Weekly had on its cover that Palin was a liar.

  • debbie

    basil9 Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    I haveta confess (don’t shot me) that I’m beginning to feel sorry for BO. I don’t think the dem fiasco is entirely his fault.

    While I don’t feel sorry for BHO, I do understand your compassion…thats what sets us apart from them!!

  • rgb44hrc

    # debbie Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    hahaha rgb44hrc

    let me add

    all my pantsuits are at the cleaners
    my throat is sore and I can’t cackle
    &&&&&&&&&

    Can’t cackle. Nice burn, Deb. :^)

  • basil9

    moonpluto,
    What can I say? Guess i can’t stand to see anyone suffer too much (except for the Mountain Yeti) and i do think he knows he’s in way over his head.
    He is a smart guy and he let greed, ambition and impatience get the best of him.
    He deserves to lose and lose big and then spend a decade or 2 mulling over his mistakes and improving his
    resume. I just think he may have a conscience underneath all that arrogance butaybe it’s just wishful thinking.

    McCALIN ‘08 and HRC 20012!

  • Berkeley Vox

    Obama’s big flip-flop today is another nail in the coffin. The Republicans will crush him with this. They had similar ammo with Kerry and it proved to be lethal. Appearing indecisive as CIC isn’t really something a candidate can overcome.

    It’s amazing how off his game Obama is. The GOP convention has him lashing out and trying to re-calibrate his message, which is idiotic. He’s lost his nerve. Some free advice to Obama (why am I even giving this? lol) — dude, it’s a CHANGE election. Every time you start talking about the surge, or Palin’s experience level, you’re way off message.

  • Hillary’s was great in her appearance with O’Reilly and unfortuneately for the bots, Obama is going to come across as looking clueless on everything from taxes to foreign affairs.

  • time for a drink can not spell worth a damn today.

  • birdgal

    Basil: He made the choice to do this. He has been climbing the ladder, does not have a conscience, has poor judgement (obviously), is arrogant, and narcissistic. He deserves every bit of what he is getting (if it is bad). Hopefully, his chickens are coming home to roost. Baaaaawk, Baaaaawk, Baaaaawk!

  • basil9

    emjay,

    They’re doing fly-bys and practicing landings as I type. hehehehe.

    I know, I know. I’m a pushover but something about his tone of voice today got to me.

    He’s so unevolved. OK. I’m over it, now.

  • rgb44hrc

    If O-man would have spent some apprenticeship time, in 8 years, we probably all would have gotten behind him. Or if he would have won the nomination fair and square, at least some of us would have “gotten over it” (Hillary if she lost fair and square).

    Now that we’ve seen how ruthless he is, he’s blown it. I’ll always oppose him.

    First impressions …

  • moononpluto

    love this headline

    Category 5 Hurricane Sarah Makes Landfall

    patriotroom.com/?p=1626

  • admin

    Final numbers are in:

    http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/09/palin-ratings-s.html

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s highly anticipated speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night nearly matched the record-setting numbers of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

    Palin pulled in 37.2 million viewers across broadcast and cable networks, according to Nielsen Media Research.

    That’s 55% higher than Day 3 of the DNC, when her Democratic counterpart, Joe Biden, and President Clinton took the stage (24 million).

    It’s also up a sharp 99% from the Republican convention’s third day in 2004 (18.7 million) and easily bests the numbers viewers attracted by George W. Bush when he accepted the nomination (27.6 million). In fact, it came close to upsetting Obama’s historic address last Thursday — the most-watched convention speech in history (38.4 million viewers).

    Palin’s viewership is up 73% from Tuesday’s RNC tally, when 21.5 million tuned in to see President Bush and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman endorse nominee John McCain. The event also drew more female viewers than Hillary Clinton’s speech last week.

  • 37.2 million viewers tuned in to watch Gov. Palin’s speech last night. Obama’s camp was in panic mode before her speech. They knew they were in trouble when she was announced as McCain’s VP pick. With the attacks they have been leveling at Palin and now Bambi going on O’Reilly, this election is over.

  • moononpluto

    Wow, the women tuned in to see her, thats very good news.

  • rgb44hrc

    basil9 Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    moonpluto,
    What can I say? Guess i can’t stand to see anyone suffer too much (except for the Mountain Yeti)
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I’d feel sorrier for the poor mountain yeti. Chased out of his natural range. Misunderstood. And he never gave Hillary the finger “accidentally scratching his cheek”.

    I think they do exist.

    Unfortunately, I know that the Obamanable O-man exists for real, threatening vasts swaths of the Continental U.S.

  • basil9

    rgb,

    Hey!!!!! And I was just getting ready to let you know how I was LMAO at your excuses list!
    :wink:
    So I had a why-can’t-we-just-get-along-moment. Ya know what, once in a while it’s really hard to
    accept how evil some people are.
    Oh well.
    Birdgal, filbert, debbie,
    My brief lapse into wishful delusion has passed. But I still think Axelrod and Brazille are the ringmasters.

  • texan4hillary

    drudge front page-obama hails surge.

  • rgb44hrc

    Wow, the Palin viewership numbers!

    Plus, I believe she got extremely high positives, from the general public saps-like-us, and the TalkingHead Punditry too.

    TaylorMarsh trying to debunk the story that Palin had to make do with a malfunctioning teleprompter. Poor Taylor, caught in between in a no-man’s land.

  • Kingsgrove

    NOW, the Kooks want Hillary to save their Messiah?! Maybe the bots can read the writing on the wall….. Maybe Hillary & Bill could just change their phone numbers, or go on a long vacation…… on a another planet, perhaps?

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/4/63223/60928/880/585923

    Where’s Hillary on Palin?????

    by CTReformedRep
    Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 03:40:37 AM PDT

    With Palin claiming to be Hillary’s heir, and blasting Obama, I want to know—Where the Hell is Hillary????

    Am I missing something??? Why don’t I see news clips of her blasting Palin for daring to claim her mantle??

    Where is Hillary clearly pointing out the contrasts between her and Palin on issues like reproductive rights???

    Where is Hillary clearly delineating the difference in experience between her and Palin–the way she was so eager to do between her and Obama??

    Where is Hillary telling her supporters not to be fooled just because McCain picked a woman VP, that if you truly want to see woman’s rights progress and not regress they need to vote for Obama??

    Hillary redeemed herself in my eyes by her, and Bill’s performances at the DNC. If the two of them do not now forcefully come out now and confront Palin, I’ll once again right the two of them off as self centered, opportunists.

    McCain is making a clear play for disaffected Hillary voters, and for them to not gravitate to the GOP she has to be consistently working for Obama to rein them in. She has had since last Friday to confront Palin, and I’ve seen nothing.

    Maybe I’m missing something, but even if she gave a speech somewhere, it’s not enough. Hillary should be on the news constantly confronting Palin on her claims.

    Oh, and Bill needs to be doing the same.

  • rgb44hrc

    # basil9 Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    My brief lapse into wishful delusion has passed. But I still think Axelrod and Brazille are the ringmasters.
    &&&&&&

    Every person here’s Bad Guy List might be in slightly different orders. Obama, I think, was the W. puppet, and Axlerod is perhaps Cheney. Brazile….I don’t even know what to say.

    “Stop all the hatin’, you Fake Democrats”. Thanks, Donna. You are sooo charming.

  • basil9

    Berkeley Vox,

    That’s what I heard in his voice today!

    He’s lost his nerve!

  • birdgal

    basil:”Birdgal, filbert, debbie,
    My brief lapse into wishful delusion has passed. But I still think Axelrod and Brazille are the ringmasters”

    If true, he has been a very willing participant. You forgot to put in Kerry, Daschle, and Kennedy.

  • moononpluto

    DUers saying, what did he go on fox for, why did he say that, he’s going to be crucified.

    lol, told ya dummies.

  • filbertsf

    Can we officially call BO Flipper?

  • texan4hillary

    hillary isnt on the ticket. she is hamstrung on what she can do. if they want hillary to fight then they should have had nsty put her on the ticket. palin is on the gop ticket. hillary isnt.

  • moononpluto

    I think privately Hillary has told bambi, i’ve done my bit, sink or swim.

    I don’t think she’s going to come to his rescue.

  • Illinois Underground

    September 4th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    filbertsf Says:

    Our strange friendship with Republicans looks like it will indeed extend beyond November 5th in three respects.

    (1) We will work with Republicans in Illinois to do everything we can to defeat SoetorObama when he tries to either keep his Senate seat in 2010, or run for Illinois governor. We’d rather see a Republican Senator or Governor in Illinois than allow this man to remain in office.
    * * * * * *
    Yes! The IL GOP field, by one estimate:
    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=30852

    And, a local tidbit about our un-favorite stalking horse candidate:
    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=30880

  • basil9

    Kingsgrove,

    I may have had a fleeting twinge of pity for the messiah but I don’t wanna see
    HRC anywhere near his sinking ship!

  • Idunn

    I feel sorry for Bambi in the way I feel sorry for an arrogant teenage boy who thinks he knows everything and get taken apart by his elders. Basically, not a bit.

    And excuse me…is he friggin’ retarded? Hailing the surge?! Now?! I’m no rockstar politician, but even I know you don’t hand your opponent a win like that! You say shit like, “Whether or not the surge was successful isn’t the point…the point is it does nothing to force the Iraqi’s to accept responsibility for their own fate so we can get the hell out of there!” or you pull a Bill Clinton and argue what the definition of the word “is” is. Whatever. But you DON’T hand your opponent a gift wrapped apackage like that. Ever.

    Dumb ass.

  • The democratic ticket is set and Obama needs to live with his choices. If for any reason something happens and the dems want Hillary on the ticket, she should just say “no thanks, I remember the Walter Mondale fiasco in 2002″

  • Idunn

    Someone with an account at KOS, please go over there and respond to that diary with:

    Beep. We’re sorry, Senator Clinton is not available to take your call right now. But if you leave your name, number and the nature of your call, we’re sure she’ll be happy to get back with you.

    ;)

  • filbertsf

    Not that I want HRC to be on the ticket, but I’m curious why she wasn’t on the ticket. Lots of VP and Presidential Candidates don’t get along, but the marriage is arranged anyways.

    Although I would not have voted for it, I think the Obama/Clinton ticket was unbeatable. DNC are just fools.

  • Illinois Underground

    Admin: time to post the Flipper song again! Sorry, couldn’t find your nice cartoon version.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH48uuofr60

  • neetabug

    Now they need Hillary to save O. TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LATE

  • A Rasmussen poll states that over half of American voters, 51%, think that the media are trying to hurt Sarah Palin. Twenty-four percent say that media coverage makes them more likely to vote for McCain/Palin. Thirty-nine percent think that Gov. Palin has better experience to be PRESIDENT than Sen. Obama.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/51_say_reporters_are_trying_to_hurt_palin_39_say_she_has_better_experience_than_obama

    It’s too bad that more people didn’t see the media attacks as just that on Hillary Clinton, but at least now, they’re getting it.

  • basil9

    Idunn,
    “I feel sorry for Bambi in the way I feel sorry for an arrogant teenage boy who thinks he knows everything and get taken apart by his elders. Basically, not a bit.”

    Me too. The thing with JD teens, though, is you’re usually willing to give them another chance.
    Guess that’s what I meant, that if he spends the next 10 years or so reforming himself I might be willing to give him
    another chance whereas I would never say that about a Hitler or a Stalin or a brazile.

  • neetabug

    Idunn,

    don’t get MAD. POOR BAMBI HE COULDN’T HELP HIMSELF GIVING IN ABOUT THE SURGE. HE DIDN’T HAVE HIS TELEPROMPTER TO HELP HIM

  • filbertsf

    Idunn Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Someone with an account at KOS, please go over there and respond to that diary with:

    Beep. We’re sorry, Senator Clinton is not available to take your call right now. But if you leave your name, number and the nature of your call, we’re sure she’ll be happy to get back with you.

    you’re as clever as they come

  • aNewNEWDEAL

    obama hopes palin expects to be treated like the “guys”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp

  • Idunn

    Knowing everything I know about him…no second chances from me. Sorry. Just cause I might feel alittle sorry for you does NOT mean I think you are any more or less capable or worthy or decent. Just means I feel sorry for you.

    Hell, I even feel alittle sorry for Charlie Manson cause he got a bum deal in his childhood. Sure as shit doesn’t mean I’d invite him over to my house for dinner, though.

  • How come I can’t get on board, here?

  • basil9

    maria,

    we can see you.

  • freckles

    If you want talking points, try setting a couple of things straight. Obama had the homophobic concert tour. Palin vetoed a bill that would have stripped gays of their rights.

    Palin did NOT accuse Hill of whining. She said that women could not be PERCEIVED as whining.

  • OK, I’m back. I wanted to share the latest Rasmussen Poll:

    Over half of all American voters think that the media are trying to hurt Sarah Palin. 24% say they are therefore more likely to support McCain/Palin. 39% say that Gov. Palin is better experienced to be PRESIDENT than Sen. Obama:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/51_say_reporters_are_trying_to_hurt_palin_39_say_she_has_better_experience_than_obama

  • texan4hillary

    topic-review mccain’s health plan. it appears more centrist to me than i thought. they have added much to it since i last checked. it aint hilary’s, but not obama’
    http://www.johnmccain.com/healthcare/ma’s either.

  • birdgal

    Illinois Underground: Thanks for the links. I liked the one: “Say no to BO, vote for John McCain.

    Too bad about JE (not).

  • texan4hillary

    topic-here is mccain’s healthplan-which has been expanded since i last checked. it appears more centrist than i thought. of course hillary had the one. so what to make of mccain’s suggestions?
    http://www.johnmccain.com/healthcare/

  • Thanks, basil9,

    But I can’t print the link I want to about the latest Rasmussen Poll, which says that over half (51%) of all American voters think that the media are trying to hurt Sarah Palin; 24% say they are therefore more likely to vote for McCain/Palin; and 39% say that Palin is better experienced to be PRESIDENT than Obama. Wish I could publish the link!

  • filbertsf

    maria, in general, you can’t post the entire link here. What you need to do is just leave out the www or the http

  • I’m picking up my McCain/Palin yard signs and bumperstickers at the Johnson County Republican headquarters at 9:30 a.m. tomorrow in Iowa City, when they’ll be available. My husband and friends and acquaintances are really chagrined that I’m voting with the party that is willing to put a strong woman on the ticket, so I’m catching a lot of flack. I will come here for support and hope that some of my friends can understand.

  • kostner

    New site worth checking: stop smearing Sarah, some neat pics.
    h t t p : / / stopsmearingsarah.blogspot.com/

  • Thanks, filbertsf!!

    Here it is without the parts you mentioned:

    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/51_say_reporters_are_trying_to_hurt_palin_39_say_she_has_better_experience_than_obama

  • HillaryforTexas

    Idiots don’t realize that Hill can’t save him even if she tried. Every time she appears in public, people are reminded of how STUPID the Dems were, and how BAD she makes him look just by existing and being herself.

  • birdgal

    Hillary for Texas: Plus, Hillary outshines him.

  • skmf12

    ADMIN,

    just so say no deal, asks this question:
    IS HE ASKING US TO VOTE MCCAIN PALIN?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4lHJ_dL24k

  • Idunn

    I hear alot of diehard liberal dems now crying foul because Palin mocked Obama.

    Hello?! Of course she mocked him! What’s the one thing that always causes the King to trip up? Assaults on his over-inflated ego. Bots don’t like it…dems don’t like it, because deep down they KNOW it’s effective as hell.

    “And the skies will open up…celestial choirs will come down…”

    LMAO!!

  • freckles

    I wrote a couple of posts this morning when I read the vitriol and misleading posts on Taylor Marsh. They kept saying that you couldn’t be for Hill and vote for McC/Palin, that it was against women’s interests.

    I think the great writers here, IDunn, H4T, and Admin might like to edit these thoughts written off the top of my head, into a post we can use to rebut O supporters and explain it to the press.

    ——————————————————–
    Voting for McCain is voting against our interests?

    You can vote for a party that has set up an anti-American. elitist, anti-working people faux primary if you like that sort of thing. You can vote for a party that feels it has the right to take your vote and void it or give it to someone else, even if that someone wasn’t even on the ballot. You can vote for a party that can pre-determine the outcome of its election and then ignore the real results. You can vote for a party that, by any rational method, would have a different winner. You can vote for a party that does not intend to change its ways next time.

    I think that such a party is both stupid and corrupt. You can be as nasty as you want about Republicans but first you should want to clean up your own mess.
    If you don’t see the problem, you are part of it.

    Obama is the unearned candidate of his party (among his other glaring faults). McCain is the legitimate candidate of his. That’s the choice we have. And insulting those of us who will not vote for Obama is a really bad strategy because we are growing.

  • wbboei

    Breaking from Newsmax.com

    Biden: Obama May Bring Criminal Charges Against Bush, Cheney
    Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden said he and presidential hopeful Barack Obama could bring criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in Novembe
    ———————————————
    Where was he when the issue was ripe. The fuckhead never runs out of political stunts. He is like that old groucho marks charater who walks up to you in a zootsuit 10 sizes too big wiht lots of pockets and he had got something in each pocket that you dont want to buy but everytime you say no he says you dont like that well what about this. No trial lawyer is his right mind and no politician worth his salt flails in all directions like this guy does like a dodo bird (not dodd) tying to fly. So now in addition to everything else bambi wants to become the Duke of Toquemada & Grand Inquisitor of Seville or maybe just dickless tracey/

  • CountTheVotes

    # aNewNEWDEAL Says:
    September 4th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    obama hopes palin expects to be treated like the “guys”

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp

    ******

    Well, that would be a step up considering how they’ve treated women.

  • Idunn

    Freckles, that’s exactly what I would have said. It’s perfect.

  • freckles

    Part 2 —

    ———————————-
    And while so many of you are appalled at those of us abandoning the Democrat party, and saying we cannot be for Hillary and Sarah, you forget there is a fundamental point of agreement between them. It trumps all policy differences.

    If you deprive me of my vote once, you will not get it again. Democrats will have to admit their transgressions and resole to fix them. The best way to bring this about is to ensure that their treasonous arrogance is a loser.

    The end does NOT justify the means.

    This is especially true for women, the last group to get the vote. So I repeat:

    Take my vote and you will never, ever, get the chance to do it again.

  • kostner

    Sullivan is on the extreme edge of the assault on Palin – even as Campbell Brown and others have drastically scaled back their attacks on Palin as they realized their allegations were either unfounded, irrelevant, or significant stretches of fact, Sullivan continues to beat the drum. He repeats rumor and innuendo as established truth, but even worse, insists that every tabloidesque rumor be met with immediacy by Palin herself. It’s more than a little pathetic: Andrew Sullivan, once one of the most brilliant wits of the neocon blogosphere, now occupies that darkened zone of the tabloid preacher – the streetcorner pamphleteer who cries to all who will hear, “The Government will not respond to my writings the existence of extraterrestrials among us, and THIS LACK OF DENIAL PROVES DEFINITIVELY THAT THEY ARE HERE!”

    As Jonathan Last blogs at the fantastic Galley Slaves: Sullivan demanded that he be able to inspect Palin’s amniotic fluid or Trig Palin’s placenta in order to determine the “hidden truth” about Palin’s pregnancy. Sullivan posted repeatedly, writing over and over again – with no basis other than his own expertise in photo analysis and the rantings of bloggers and commenters with no reputation for accuracy – that Palin’s pregnancy was a suspect issue that demanded clarification. Was the baby hers? Who was the father? Was it a faked pregnancy? All were questions that Sullivan insisted needed answering.

    In the wake of revelations about Bristol Palin, rendering much of what he argued moot, Sullivan now insists that his continued writings and tabloidesque musings about Trig Palin’s conception and birth aren’t out of bounds at all, merely because the baby exists.

    Presumably, they should put it wherever people put babies to keep them out of the public eye.

    Sullivan’s public descent into rampaging dementia is frightening, and one wonders what it could possibly signify about his relationship with The Atlantic. I have been public for years in my belief that The Atlantic is the best magazine in America, and it has, as others have noted, a brand built on a century of brilliant writers and the best minds of the literati. Today, Sullivan represents a complete downfall of that brand name – embracing fully the worst kind of speculatory writing, based on nothing more than what he sees on television and receives from adoring fans in his inbox.

    Sullivan has had a bizarre series of public loop-de-loops in recent months, primarily motivated by his devout affection for Barack Obama. His insistence on ignoring his own past political views led to a strong back and forth earlier this year, when Pete Wehner – who I know to be a former fan of Sullivan’s writings before the man went nuts – showed how Sullivan’s current claims completely conflicted with everything he’d once written about the war on terror. To which Sullivan, after much ridiculousness in response, could only respond: “I was deceived and feel terrible responsibility for my naivete.”

    Perhaps someday Andrew Sullivan will say he feels deceived by the Andrew Sullivan he is today, and feel terrible responsibility for believing the rantings of the nuttiest members of the online left. But until that day, if it ever comes, he will keep up his courageous quest, insisting that he is just “posing questions,” that he has no bias on this point but a search for hidden, dirty, scandalous truth. He will ask the tough questions, the hard questions, the questions he can ask about medical practice and birth because of his long history as an OB-GYN, an educated nurse, and the handsomest midwife in the tristate area.

    The Atlantic sure is getting what it’s paying for.

  • freckles

    resolve — not resole

  • birdgal

    Count the votes: obama hopes palin expects to be treated like the “guys”

    Palin has been ELECTED GOVERNOR of a very macho and conservative state. I am sure, she knows how to play with big boys, and win. Her achievements prove that. What a bunch of doofuses, the taliban party has turned into.

  • Idunn

    obama hopes palin expects to be treated like the “guys”

    Hope Obama expects to be dumped on like one of the “gals”.

  • JanH

    obama hopes palin expects to be treated like the “guys”???

    Well then I guess they are going to treat her with kid gloves then since they all think Obamalight walks on water.

    LOL…I can just see it now. McCain’s next ad will say: The surge was a huge success and Obama agrees with me!

  • skmf12,

    I think that Bill Clinton IS telling us to vote for McCain/Palin, because Obama can’t deliver. He asks whether the voter will vote for candidate X who agrees with you but can’t deliver on anything and candidate Y who only agrees on half of what you believe in and CAN deliver. That sounds to me like Nobama in November. Vote for McCain/Palin.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    What was the flip-flop that Obama made?

    And is it interesting that CNN will broadcase Michelle’s live event during the midst of the RNC?

  • wbboei

    The troop surge in Iraq has been more successful than anyone could have imagined, Barack Obama conceded Thursday in his first-ever interview on FOX News. FLIPPER.

    ——————————————– Another example of the judgment obama is famous for.

  • JanH

    I wonder what Lou Dobbs will say about Palin on his show today.

  • JanH

    So Obama can flipflop about every major thing, but Palin can’t change her mind about the “bridge to nowhere?”

  • wbboei

    The O’reilly interview tonight, Obama has just dropped himself in the shit.
    _______________________________________
    I sent some good questions to bill for tonight

  • birdgal

    Just: CNN is the news station for Obama. No, I’m not surprised. Their ratings are low, anyway. Who watches that show anyway??

  • moononpluto

    The response to that one kills it dead in the water is,

    that Biden and Obama both voted and approved that Bridge to Nowhere. They seriously do not want to bring that one up.

    Palin didnt know the whole details of it but when she found out what the earmarked fully entailed she killed it stone dead. You are allowed to do that.

  • wbboei

    Obama/Biden Ticket=The Bridge to Nowhere

  • moononpluto

    I love that, thats what they should call them.

  • texan4hillary

    um obama voted for the bridge to nowhere

  • CountTheVotes

    found this comment on another blog:

    Megan interviews Maj. Gen. Eaton on FOX

    Megan: Sir do you believe you can get enough experience to be president while campaigning for president?

    Maj. Gen. Eaton: Megan that is a patently stupid question.

    Megan: Well sir I am asking it because today Barack Obama said that he had been at this campaigning for 19 months and Sarah Palin had only been at it for 4 days so he had a lot more experience to be president.

    Maj. Gen. Eaton: Well Megan I am trying to wrap my mind around this question and you know different people get experience in different ways at different rates but I know that Obama has the personality and judgement to be president.

  • basil9

    skmf,

    Hmmmmmm…..
    Bc says How do we turn good intentions into positive changesm? That seems to be the theme of his message.
    Doesn’t sound to me like he’s implying that voting BO is a bad idea but maybe I’m hearing it wrong.

  • basil9

    count,

    the interesting part of that quote is “…..and all her records should be scrutinized.”
    :evil:

    wbboei,
    John Conyers was supposed to have to have spearheaded that years ago but I guess his wife’s
    being investigated by the FBI threw a monkeywrench into that plan.

    i

  • texan4hillary

    gotta see that

  • birdgal

    texan: Thank God, that General is retired. What a bunch of double-speak and hooey.

  • basil9

    count,
    “I think she’s got a compelling story, but I assume she wants to be treated the same way that guys want to be treated,” he said. “I’ve been through this 19 months, she’s been through it — what — four days so far?”

    The reporter conveniently left out this part of BO’s comment.
    “She’s got a compelling story but I assume she wants to be treated the same way as guys and so her records should be put under scrutiny!!!!!!!!!”

  • Idunn

    With all due respect to the General…what is so hard to wrap your brain around with respect to that question?

  • Paula

    Not that I want HRC to be on the ticket, but I’m curious why she wasn’t on the ticket.

    Obama was too arrogant to ask her.

  • wbboei

    If McCain/Palin win the election alot of heads will roll in big media–lots of them. MSNCBC will go out of business.

  • basil9

    Even ‘t like MaCALIN I’d vote for them just to get rid of Ogremann, Tweetie and
    Shyster.

  • basil9

    :oops:

    Even if I didn’t like McCalin I’d vote for them just to get rid of Ogremann, Tweetie and
    Shyster.

  • admin

    Highlights from last night:

  • wbboei

    Maj. Gen. Eaton: Well Megan I am trying to wrap my mind around this question and you know different people get experience in different ways at different rates but I know that Obama has the personality and judgement to be president
    ——————————————–
    I’m General Eaton of the Horse Marines
    I love Barack To Smithereens
    And I Date Young Horses in their teens
    And I Know For Sure What Experiece Means
    Though But A Captain In The Army

    (Note: this is a takeoff on an old barracks ballad of the 19th century; the horse marines is a legendary military unit that never really existed; and the same can be said of barcrack banana).

  • Emjay

    basil

    If it makes you feel any better, a friend emailed me, giving credit to BO for telling the media to leave Sarah’s family alone…and saying that maybe it was his surrogates who should be blamed.

    To his credit, he did bring up the concept of command responsibility…

    Here is my response to him, w/ ID info removed.
    —————————————–

    I consider BHO directly responsible for everything from my being called a filthy name, a friend being overrun and knocked down at her precinct caucus at Iowa City, one of my delegates being cornered and overwhelmed by FOUR Obamabots at the District convention, the whole Texas debacle, another friend who made a mistake and described her business on the internet, whereupon the bots almost ran her out of business…two were arrested of the 5, no charges as yet…there may never be…right down to the perp walk Hillary was forced to make to the microphone as I described the other night…I owe the thieves and thugs AND their leader nothing.

    And Obama does NOT deserve credit for trying to call off the media – he always manages to be at least a day late and a dollar short- this time 2 1/2 days late…and with Hillary…”I had no idea that was going on.” while he was finally saying something, weeks late. He is not taking, did not and will not take responsibility. That is frightening in someone who wants to be a leader. It goes beyond plausible deniability.

    You are a leader, you and I both know leaders past and present, I have taught leaders-to-be.

    Barack is not a leader, He is a preacher.

    Enough bile for now.

  • Secret

    I know…I know..
    Brace yoruself People, Hillary will campaign in little towns for Obama. How do you like that?
    She is absolutely silly. It is ticking me off. She clearly doesn’t believe in Obama. I know and we all know -she hates his guts as much as we do.
    But, still she has said she is at their disposal and they can use her in which ever way they think – which would make Obama win.
    She has gone out of her mind. She anyone has to tell her – she is not on the ticket. Hillary – wake up. You have lost the election. Dems cheated you. You are a loser. Now, go for a holiday and mourn the loss as we are doing.
    I would be very upset if she goes on attack on Palin. I don’t agree one bit with Palin’s policies. But, I hate Obama’s guts and want to see him lose. So – Hillary stay away.

  • JanH

    “but I know that Obama has the personality and judgement to be president.”

    Well sir, with all due respect, that is a patently stupid answer!

  • Emjay

    BTW, it is now common practice to consider the current cycle presidential nominee of any party that party’s “leader.”

  • HillaryforTexas

    Secret, Hillary is not going to attack Palin. And her campaigning for him will hurt him, I think. Every time people see her, it reminds them what an as he was not to choose her.

    Hillary will do what she did at the convention: make such a shining example of a TRUE Democrat, that people look at him and go, “Huh?”

  • freckles

    IDunn……….that was gracious but it could use a good edit. Actually, that’s one of my best things but it’s easier if someone else does it when it’s your own work.

    There are so many wonderful writers here that I thought they might like to take the thought and work with it.

  • Paula

    Hillary will only criticize the GOP ticket on its policies, should she campaign. She won’t launch any personal attacks.

  • texan4hillary

    hillary must speak out against sexism on palin. no? if she campaigns for him its a lie. and mccain willhighlight that again in ads on how hillary feels. and the voters damn well know it.

  • basil9

    emjay,
    OUCH!!!!!!!!
    Like i said, it was a passing fancy – I’m especially sensitive to tone coz of being a musician and the sound of his voice did get to me – for a minute or 2 – just long enough for me to post the
    Hillaryis44 hall-of-shame comment for the day.
    Now I’m back to the he-doesn’t-deserve-to-be-taking-up-space-on-the-planet mode.

    Wbboei,
    That is hysterical.

  • Secret

    If Hillary does an over supportive role for Obama. She needs to be exposed of how she really feels about Obama by ads from primary. And how she mocked obama about skies will open and celestial choirs will sing. Really she will discredit herself if she over plays her role. If you have to campaign just do the lip service. Don’t over do it. Hillary – just don’t do it – please – we bed you.

  • Secret

    We Beg you Hillary – don’t campaign hard for BHO.

  • basil9

    secret,

    I agree. She shouldn’t campaign for him and I’m at a loss to figure out why she’s agreed to it.

    Anyone got any answers?

  • mp

    For skfm12: my 20 reasons “living with mccan for 4 yrs….now he also has “smart Palin!!
    —–
    1. Iraq Issue
    - has/had 2 sons in Iraq fighting; made personal sacrifice.
    - no president is a ruler for 100yrs…if he does something stupid, congress would be even more stupider than they are now
    - congress can stop it by stopping full funding – PERIOD!
    - also McCain voted against Bush tax cuts in 2003 saying that at time of war, tax cuts are not needed

    2. Supports stem cell research

    3. supports full immigration plan…fair and balanced; he wrote the initial legislation; he withstood against his own party’s wrath during the summer of 2007.

    4. A respectable CIC; a know quantity. He will defend the country

    5. Fiscal conservative – I happen to like it! Who cares about the others right now.

    6. Judges/SC…well senate better do their work in approval process; ginsberg and others can stay 4 more yrs…they are not that too old.

    7. Abortion…hmm not bothered..worst case it will become a state issue vs. federal issue. we have many moderate pro chocie repubs – like Arnie, Crist, Snows, collins, specter etc

    8. AZ gov will have to appoint a DEM senator to replace him! whoopie we have 1 additional DEM senator that way to work with Hillary!

    9. Reasonable tax plans…i like them

    10. health plan…will give credits ; fine for now…the other plans will take a long time and money to implement anyway..so the senate can start with step…children, automate records etc…

    11. will work with senators and congress as he has always done

    12. Please choose a smart VP….. i think he will…

    13. Strong on national security; I trust him over BO anyday over America’s national security!

    14. Not good on economic issuse like clinton but he can and will take advice and listen

    15. age…no probelm.; he will be less of a burden for future tax payers money when he retires. how great to know that the stupid baby boomers
    and the spoilt youngs ones in this country are forced to respect an ELDER for a CHANGE. TIME FOR RESPECT… no age discominatiuon here!
    IT TAKES A VILLAGE!!!!
    AND EVERY VILLAGE NEEDS AN ELDER!!!!!

    16. supports campaign finance…remember his campaign days when he was broke! He did it cheaply!! He carried his own bags to a commercial, economy priced
    air plane and stated at volunteeer’s house. He also did not accept protection from the Secret service until 6 weeks ago – saved us tax payer a lot of
    money. He is looking after MY tax money!

    17. He will listen to advisors but also be able to make an independent judgement.

    18. Cindy McCain has been working for children a long time here and abroad. They adopted a daughter from Bangladesh – a muslim country – from an orphanage run by Mother Teresa. Cindy and John are great HUMANITARIANS!!!!!! they walk the talk!!!!!!!!

    19: He recognises climate change and global waarming and will things to help combat it.

    20: John Kerry in 2004 thought McCain was a good chocie as his VP…so John Kerry endorsed McCain as someone who can govern this country.

  • neetabug

    I have some guys here knocking out a wall for me. I asked if they watched Palins speech, they said they had not. One said he did not care for McCain. I told him i was voting for McCain and why. The other one said he was voting for McCain because he could not stand Obama. We started talking about Ayers and all of O’s buddies. Then other one after listening to us, i think we kind of changed his mind.
    I referred him to Hillaryis44 site.

    Mind you these are two young white males in their late twenties.

  • neetabug

    PS they will be back here Sat. So if anyone have some good info. I will let them read the site on Sat.

  • Idunn

    Neeta, I hope you prepared these young men for just how much we truly hate Bambi here.

  • HillaryforTexas

    LMAO! They were just playing “Barracuda” at the RNC!

  • Idunn

    I swear I think someone from the McCain camp is watching us. ;)

  • Paula

    basil9, Hillary is doing this because she’s a loyal Dem. But it won’t matter. Obama needs to make the sale himself, and if he can’t do it Hillary won’t be able to do it for him.

  • S

    basil9 Says:

    September 4th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    I haveta confess (don’t shot me) that I’m beginning to feel sorry for BO. I don’t think the dem fiasco is entirely his fault. I do think he’s been entirely (although willingly) manipulated, manufactured and directed by Deaniac, Brazille, Kennedy, Kerry, etc.

    Something about him reminds me of a naïve young woman who sees an ad for actress and goes to audition thinking she’s going to be a star only to end up on the mean streets of LA.

    I hope he loses the GE and then goes back to the senate where he can hone his skills and develop and expand his world-view. He might be ready to run again in another 8 years or so.

    As Judge Judy says, he’s just not fully cooked, yet.

    ********************************************

    Basil9 …glad to came back to your senses…your kindness would be wasted on O…he knows exactly what he is doing…and he is ruthless…

  • mp

    Idunn:

    Yep…I think they are reading us!!!!!
    I wish I could find some of the phrases/ideas we have all used here first and then we see them on the McCain campaign.

  • Kingsgrove

    Hillary Clinton is a woman of her word. Despite DNC’s duplicity, despite the betrayals of many of her longtime friends, she kept her word. Whatever her true feelings for Obama might be, she kept her word.

  • CountTheVotes

    today Rush Limbaugh mentioned that Jonathan Alter of Newsweek is beating the drum for journalists to “do their job” and scrutinize and vet Palin…

    since Jonathan Alter is likely one of BO’s paid “media assets,” and BO is hitting the same talking points – they’ve all been given their marching orders to – vet (and destroy) Palin.

    I think BO is walking into a trap – the more he gets his machine to “vet” Palin, the more it’s underlining how unscrutinized he is. though because he’s all about smoke and mirrors, he might pull it off – when he can’t stand the heat, he deflects it.

  • Idunn

    If McCain ever defines Obama as the new coke, then we’ll know for sure, won’t we? LOL~!

  • mp

    Here’s my two cennts worth of this community organiser without specific responsibilitiess as a job:

    -It is usually for a specific project/cause within the community.
    -It is very low paid or mainly voluntary based with funds coming from registered charities.
    -Most people do it as part-time
    -Record keeping is necessary.

    So speak up now obama…or STFU

  • Emjay

    freckles

    I really like your 2 part response to Taylor.

  • freckles

    I thought the funniest line was the “styrofoam Greek columns”.

    I thought perhaps the best line was about the jet, “I put it on EBay”.

    Struggling working people, small business people, and people fed up with the lavish lifestyles of politicians et al. must have loved it. Newbies usually say, “what can I do, the 9 limos were here when I got here.” Not Sarah. Almost like a scene from “Dave”.

  • birdgal

    Speaking of vetting, oh where, oh where, are BO’s Illinois State Senate Records?

  • Idunn

    The dog ate them.

  • admin

    Pat Buchanan vs. Chris Matthews (we’ll remember Matthews’ behavior when he runs for senate in Pennsylvania):

  • CountTheVotes

    you know what bugs me – i’m getting emails from people who used to campaign for Hillary, and some are drinking the kool-aid and even spewing sexist language about Palin when they should know better. I know that we are 25-30% of the PUMAs who will likely vote McCain/Palin – but it is strange to go underground even more so – we went underground as Hillary supporters even when we were 50% of the Democratic voters…

    my guess however is those who were former Hillary supporters have not drunk the strong kool-aid, and some, given the right bombshells dropped on Obama, may just decide to vote “present” when it comes to presidential choice.