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Funeral In Denver

[Waiting for McCain announcement of Vice Presidential choice. We’ll update as soon as the potentially shocking and historic news is 100% confirmed.

UPDATE: It is Sarah Palin for McCain’s VP.

Quick thoughts in one paragraph:

This is a shocking and brilliant choice by McCain. McCain/Palin announce in must-win OHIO. Stomps out the Obama funeral story. If McCain does not run for re-election the 44 year old Palin will be the Republican nominee in 2012. If the Democrats can be bought back to life after they are destroyed in NOvember and in 2010 they will have to nominate a women to run against Palin in 2012. Hillary. Yes, Hillary. Palin will help win women around the country. Palin will help with women in the Philadelphia suburbs. Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania will likely go with NRA member and hunter Palin. The Republican Party is now 100% unified and not in a fake way. The Republicans are showing they once again know how to run an election. This is a shocking announcement with not much of a buildup (most thought it would be dull Romney, Pawlenty, or generic white male) which compares brilliantly against the trumpted weeks long hype of the Obama campaign – a big buildup for a dud. Women will savage the Democratic Party and Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi for their sexism and misogyny. Palin, whose political views we do not share, is well-spoken and articulate and tough. Palin is a maverick hated by the Alaska Republican Party because she has challenged them on ethics. Hillary’s 18 million voters (many disenfranchised by the Democratic(?) Party) will determine this election and they just have by rejection of Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi. The upcoming hurricane is potentially good news for McCain/Palin and not a problem if they use it to advantage. McCain/Palin can contrast their care by either postponing the Republican convention (which helps with financing a shorter general election season and gaining additional days of Republican control of the news cycles) or they can actually demonstrate they care by going to New Orleans or whereever the hurricane hits. McCain has made a big bold amazing pick which knocks Obama’s fake campaign to the dirt – buried.]

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There is really not much to say. The Party’s Over.

Having committed suicide, the unDemocratic Party chose to have a state funeral in Denver. The jut-jawed Barack Obama strutted onto a massive constructed stage which Il Duce would have loved.

Michelle Obama broke out another cocktail dress from her Chicago supply house of cocktail dresses and joined her husband to preside at the unDemocratic funeral in Denver.

Big Media was jubiliant – their tool finally had the nomination. But as we have written repeatedly, Obama will eventually concede – in NOvember.

Real Democrats mourned. President Lyndon Johnson who signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 was ignored. Ignoring LBJ was without doubt a concession to the Kennedy family.

Obama is a quick change artist who yesterday tried to change his guise into Hillary by plagarizing Hillary’s words and speeches. Fortunately for Hillary, Obama ignored tradition and did not bring, as is normal at these events, a flotilla of Democrats on stage with him. The spectacle was all Obama and for once we are thankful.

Last night’s comments section has plenty of analysis. No need to belabor the analysis here.

Last night the Democratic Party held a funeral. Today the Republican Party seizes the day.

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1,068 comments to Funeral In Denver

  • moononpluto

    The cheek, Obama saying Experience is off the table, she wipes the floor with him on experience.

  • carbynew

    I OWN MY VOTE!!!

  • debbie

    thanks admin….

    it’s a “new” day and I’m not crying anymore

  • JanH

    Admin,

    Thank God this undemocratic is over, never to be heard of again. With the exception of the Clintons, it was the gaudiest spectical of bad taste and idol worshipping I have ever witnessed.

    Basil,
    Basil,

    I have mixed feelings about all of this. Having thought about it though, it is not disrespectful of McCain to choose a woman. What it does is bring out the disrespect the democrats showed to Hillary in spades. It really makes Obama and his thugs, including front and center M.O. look very very small and mean. It also makes them look very stupid. They have underestimated the will of the voters and of the Republicans.

    I’ll bet that Hillary and Bill are really enjoying this.

  • birdgal

    I’m not crying anymore.

    Sorry to be catty, but did anyone else think that MO’s dress was inappropriate for last night’s event?

  • moononpluto

    Amazing, CNN goes after Sarah on this firing thing, and last week, not a peep on Bidens shit. Amazing.

  • moononpluto

    I’m laughing, McCain just destroyed Obama’s change Mantra, he picked a total Washington outsider, even more change than Obama.

    I’m laughing my head off.

  • JanH

    birdgal,

    M.O. is sooooooooo not first lady material. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she is AA. It has to do with her downright cruella personality and her absolutely bad taste is fashion.

  • Emjay

    It’s Sarah!

  • HillaryforTexas

    I am both thrilled for women in general and laughing my ass off at the STUPID DNC!!!

    When the misogny starts (and it will) it will make me both happy and sad to see this woman’s OWN party STAND UP AND FUCKING DEFEND HER.

    This would not be possible without Hillary. God I love that woman, and her bravery. She has ALREADY done more for us than we will ever know

  • Emjay

    birdgal

    Not to be catty either, but yeh.

    And you should have seen some of the comments on here last night – everything from “put your knees together girl!- to dresses that look that that used to be called ‘housedresses’. LOL

  • pm317

    Biden has to be afraid. Can Obama drop him (for someee.. reason)? He was for Biden before he was against him?

  • Norma Desmond

    The thing about Palin is she can account for EVERY DAY OF HER LIFE. So Americans who she is, who her friends are, where she has been, etc.

    The mysterious Obama, whose life goes from grade school in Hawaii to Chicago’s south side with 15 years plus COMPLETELY MISSING is a pill American’s will not swallow. Americans want to KNOW about their elected officials.

    Obama is smoke and mirrors.

    Palin, a mother of five with a son in Iraq, is a stone.

  • carbynew

    PMSNBC is having a heart attack!!!

    They keep talking about INEXPERIENCE of PALIN…PUHLEASE!!!

    OBAMA anyone!!!!

    They put andrea BITCHELL to be the ATTACK DAWG and she is pissed and is trying to use the knife on PALIN and playing cliffs of Obama’s speech from last light.

  • debbie

    birdgirl…

    not in her defense but we scrutinize everthing women wear. the fact that MO is devoid of any fashion sense (or appropriate fashion sense) reinforces our history of attacking women from the outside in.

    frankly MO should have worn a toga..it would have been more suitable for the occasion.

  • birdgal

    Emjay, I did read the comments last night. For someone that has a “war room” at her disposable, one would think, a fashion consultant would be warranted.

  • Idunn

    When the MSM misogyny starts (and you can BET that it will), McCain need to come out immdediately and decry it!

    John McCain…you just won my vote. Congrats.

  • confloyd

    Its Sarah, and I am sooo glad he picked, obviously he could not pick Hillary, but he showed us by picking Sarah, that he wants us. He wants us, the republican party wants us and we will see if they can get some of our platform on theres.
    This can’t be anything but good news. He has chosen a woman and she will be there to run next time around for the top spot. I know we all wanted it to be Hillary, but that doesn’t seen like that will happen, I think we can all honestly look at Sarah and see the stuff she is made of, then we can decide.

  • JanH

    LOL…I bet Palin has a legitimate American birth certificate! :)

  • Idunn

    Lots of typos in my posts today…sorry. I’m elated.

  • birdgal

    Palin as VP: Now that is change that I can believe in. Substance. This is change for the Republican party. Hillary shattered the ceiling for this to happen.

  • confloyd

    I don’t watch anything but Fox, so are the other networks starting their anti-female crap again???

    She also sounds like the kind of woman I like, she is totally outside the box.

  • moononpluto

    Obama has been wiped off the TV, his speech is forgotten.

  • Idunn

    He gave a speech? 😉

  • Norma Desmond

    As for other channels, MSNBC has some jerk from Biden’s camp saying the only thing Palin has done is raise taxes on a small town in Alaska.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Text message from MCain to Obama:

    “U gt SERVD!”

  • Norma Desmond

    OH LMAO!~

    It’s Bill Burton!

  • carbynew

    The DEMS are FCUKED!! If they go down the sexism and mysoginy road that will bring up what happen to Hillary and turn off more WOMEN and drive them over to McCain/.Palin.

    “HAPPY DANCE”

  • Idunn

    Oh, they are gonna attck her big time.

    Slam them on their asses, Sarah!!

  • Norma Desmond

    It was reported that the State investigation in Alaska in which Palin may be involved was because the cop was beating her sister…

    gee….

    don’t think that will be a great place to attack her if it’s true

  • NewMexicoFan

    Who would have thought that it would be the Reps who are the party of change, and who support women’s leadership.

    I am amazed.

  • pm317

    Let me add my two cents about MO’s fashion sense (or lack of it.) It goes beyond that, IMO. It is about telling the country how hip and young they are and how non conforming they are as a couple. She has a great body that she can pull it off and also convey these other messages. She is rejecting the idea of a dowdy, traditional appearance of a politician’s wife — another finger in your eye kind of reaction but works with their latte drinking young supporters. Middle America sees it as a lack of respect and seriousness because she is rejecting their world view. They are not big on trying to have universal appeal, if you have not noticed.

  • wbboei

    MSNBC will not attack her the way they savaged Hillary however. Why? Because the Republican party elevates women and defends women against mysogymism. That point needs to be driven home at every turn if Palin is the nominee.

    If this is what happens it will be hard to for them to argue she has no experience.

  • Norma Desmond

    NMF…thing is, they USED to be. Maybe THEY are going back to their roots as the DEMS show themselves to be the party of segregation as THEY used to be

  • moononpluto

    The Dems are looking like the biggest idiots right now. They have been taken and thrown on the ground and stomped.

  • NewMexicoFan

    You are totally right, it was Hillary’s blood sweat and tears that put that fist through the glass ceiling for the Alaska governor.

    Today, I thank HRC. We wanted it to be you, but the Dems are corrupt.

  • kostner

    REP. JIM CLYBURN LIKENS CHOICE OF SARAH PALIN AS MCCAIN VP PICK
    TO THAT OF DAN QUAYLE OR GERALDINE FERRARO

    SAYS PALIN IS “VERY RISKY”

    AND THAT AS A CANDIDATE QUAYLE WAS “SORT OF AN EMBARRASSMENT”

    WHILE FERRARO WAS A “DISASTER”

    Columbia SC.Democratic Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina pulled no punches on South Carolina ETV Radio Friday when asked to assess John McCain’s selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin for vice president.

    Without missing a beat, Clyburn told Mark Quinn, host of “The Big Picture on the Radio,” “I do believe that McCain has to do something to reshuffle the cards, shake up the establishment, do something unexpected and Governor Palin.has all the kinds of things that McCain might see as a way to shake things up. I think (her selection) would be something similar to Dan Quayle.Dan Quayle proved to be sort of an embarrassment as a campaigner. Being thrust on a national stage like that could be very tough. Now Mondale tried to shake things up by going with Geraldine Ferraro.she proved to be a disaster as a running mate. And as a campaigner, she was absolutely awful. And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”

    ———–

    Keep talking , your sexist pig JIM CLYBURN !

  • marie3548

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/obama_the_mysterious_s.html
    August 29, 2008
    The Perfect Stranger
    By Charles Krauthammer
    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. But himself.

    Exactly the point that we discussed last night a bio where no one vouches for you no friends only himself and his wife.

    Just not right

  • pm317

    # pm317 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Let me add my two cents about MO’s fashion sense (or lack of it.) It goes beyond that, IMO. It is about telling the country how hip and young they are and how non conforming they are as a couple. She has a great body that she can pull it off and also convey these other messages. She is rejecting the idea of a dowdy, traditional appearance of a politician’s wife — another finger in your eye kind of reaction but works with their latte drinking young supporters. Middle America sees it as a lack of respect and seriousness because she is rejecting their world view. They are not big on trying to have universal appeal, if you have not noticed.
    ———————————-
    I have to add a disclaimer here — I don’t care what she wears and I am all for being non-conformist if you are ready to pay the price.

  • basil9

    ADMIN!

    You are a poet. Suicide – Death- Rigor Mortis – Funeral.

    Bravo!!!!!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    I fucking hope Palin stands up and LOUDLY THANKS HILLARY for making her run possible. I hope the GOP twists the knife, but good, into those fucking DNC spineless woman-haters.

    And no, I do not care if it is being done for political gain. If the Democratic Party wanted to throw women under the bus, then they DESERVE to have it thrown back in their face.

    What McCain has shown here, even if you want to argue that he really doesn’t care about equal rights, is that he RECOGNIZES that women are a force that must be heard and heeded. And that, my friends, is a start.

  • Norma Desmond

    These Obama-tankers are SO STUPID! They are all over the place “Will we (Obama) be able to go after her on tough issues?”

    What they do not understand is YES, they can, IF they keep the sexism out of it, but they cannot figure out how to attack WITHOUT calling a woman bitch, shrill, etc.

  • basil9

    birdgal,

    repost.

    OMG!!!!

    I just got a look at MO’s nomination night dress! (refused to tune in last night).

    Is she fashion-challenged or what? She looked like a florists half-dead hospital arrangement assembled from Saturday’s leftovers that the shop-owner was on the verge of tossing when a last-minute order came in.

  • mp

    DNC:

    I am Palin in line!

  • Norma Desmond

    H4T…NOW we need to hold the feet to the fire on BOTH sides of the aisle for WOMEN’S ISSUES. Let’s start with the ERA…whoever bends first deserves consideration.

  • Idunn

    It was reported that the State investigation in Alaska in which Palin may be involved was because the cop was beating her sister…

    and tasered her nephew.

  • birdgal

    Clyburn is irrelevant. What else is he going to say? I don’t think Palin is a disaster, and the country is more open to a woman VP or President. The race has just become exciting. I don’t care what, they throw at Palin, it cannot compare to Rezko, Wright, Auchi, MO, birth controversy, Chicago machine, etc.

  • Norma Desmond

    Nice

  • shenanigans

    This trooper also was drunk and the bartenders called the troopers on him. Of course, they didn’t arrest him because he’s a brother. So, she used her power to fire the troopers boss, who was a political appointee…who you can fire at will. Big deal, if she is guilty of using her power against this scumbag– who beat her sister, tased his stepson, was a drunk. MORE POWER TO HER!

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • basil9

    LMAO!
    I just saw video of Palin aiming an MK-37 (or whatever the number is) and peering through the site hole. She’s a huntress, got rid of the state jet, saving hundreds of thousands of dollars and drove herself around Alaska in her black suburban.
    Her nick in the town where she was mayor was BARRACUDA SARAH!!!!
    Her husband is a commercial fisherman and is currently a stay-at-home dad raising the 5 kids.
    I LOOOOOVVVVVEEEEE it.

    OMG!!!!!! I’m dnacing and crying and laughing all at the same time.

  • HillaryforTexas

    PUMA HAKA! PUMA HAKA! 👿

    ROOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR!!!!!

    Can you hear us NOW, muthafuckas?????

  • shenanigans

    Please, some respects should be paid. Shall we all take a moment and reflect on the DNC and its passing?

    –moment—

    Thank you.

    Fuck you, DNC, you screwed it up yet again!

  • basil9

    pm!!!!

    I think MO’s choice in dress has ranged from downright dowdy to totally inappropriate!

    Nothing at all ‘hip’ about her wardrobe. The dress she wore yesterday resembled something stored in the back of my grandmother’s closet or a flower arrangement for a funeral! (IMHO)

  • moononpluto

    I’ve just seen the video of Palin out visiting the troops in Iraq, so big points there.

  • pm317

    From savagepolitics.com:

    by Adam Brickley,
    Guest Contributor

    Sarah Palin is an anomaly in American politics. It’s not because she’s a woman, not because of her blue-collar background, and not because of her ability to juggle the titles of “governor” and “committed mother of five”. Forget about all of that stuff for a moment; it’s interesting, but if Barack Obama has taught us anything, it’s that a compelling biography is not a qualification for leadership. Instead, Palin is unique because she can claim one of the broadest bases of support of any leader in our country. Other than the lunatic fringes of Alaska’s kleptocratic political establishment, nobody hates her.

    Most politicians rise to power because they represent a certain wing of their party, and even some of their own partisans detest them. Mike Huckabee will never resonate with libertarian republicans, social conservatives cannot support Rudy Giuliani, certain evangelicals will always have a problem with Mitt Romney, and frankly I doubt that hard-core conservatives will ever fully embrace John McCain. That doesn’t make them bad candidates; it just means that they face significant opposition within the Republican Party. Sarah Palin does not have that problem.

  • carbynew

    Okay, GET OFF THE FASHION CRITIC!!!

    BARBARA BUSH, ELEANOR ROOSEVELT!!!

    She could be nude and I still don’t like MO because she is mean spirited and filled with hate.

    I want people in leadership that will uplift me and show humility and respect for the voters and their need…it’s COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!

    I know it is easy to be in a party but when the focus is only on the party and not best for “We the People” then this country has problems.

    What the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY did to WOMEN in their HATRED agains HILLARY was PATHETIC and showed they’re not ready to be in the White House. NATIONALIZING the CORRUPTED CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE and other ILLS was it for me.

    Then that mysoginist Jim Clyburn throwing Geraldine under the bus…NAILED THE COFIN SHUT!!!

    I hope some caught that rant and play it over and over again…Clyburn rant will move the other 20% over to McCain alone.

  • CountTheVotes

    I woke up to read about Palin – and I’m not Holy Shit.

    Wow. I am speechless. Well, like anyone she has to be considered on her merits too, but yes, Hillary broke the ceiling. I can sense the sexism and misogyny starting all over again in the media – even Howard Wolfson saying “Gov of Alaska far away from being VP or President” which is code for “she’s a woman, she must not have any merit.”

  • Idunn

    Please, some respects should be paid. Shall we all take a moment and reflect on the DNC and its passing?

    Sure.

    ::bows head for one nano second::

    NOW FUCK YOU!

  • CountTheVotes

    …and now CNN reporter talking about Palin’s “beauty contest days.” geez, here we go again. But this is an amazing gesture from maverick McCain.

  • pm317

    Basil, you may be right. I don’t know much about being hip. :) Is she trying to think that is what Jackio O would wear?

  • Norma Desmond

    Uppity Woman has a rather long bio on Palin

    uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

  • confloyd

    Well REp Clyburn, we will show you what a fucking disaster it was for Ferrero to be selected as vp. We, the women of American are going to beat the pants of your little butts. WE WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN!

  • mp

    What a beautiful day! Thank you McCain!
    I am crying happy tears today!

  • Norma Desmond

    i have not seen MO’s dress nor heard ObamaLord’s speech. I was on a plane. Any links for MO’s housecoat? 😀

  • basil9

    shenanigans,

    You made me spit water!!!!

  • Norma Desmond

    WOW…MSNBC have tracked down all the folks they can to slam Palin…

    McCain’s BAD JUDGMENT is the meme

  • basil9

    norma,

    those pics are already off abc website replaced by portraits of Palin and mccain.

  • birdgal

    Politics is a bloody business. If the misogyny starts up, the Republican party will close ranks and speak out against it. Unlike the undemocratic party. Now, Rezko, Wright, and MO can be unleased. How can they talk about experience or being far away from Washington. BO has less experience than Palin, and he is running for President. Give me a f****** break.

  • Emjay

    I put this in the wrong article:
    —————–

    By STEVE QUINN, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago

    JUNEAU, Alaska – In just two short years, Sarah Palin moved from suburban hockey mom and small-town mayor to vice presidential contender. The 44-year-old Republican, Alaska’s first female governor, arrived at the Capitol in 2006 on an ethics reform platform after defeating two former governors in the primary and general elections. On Friday she was ready to leap to the national stage as GOP presidential candidate John McCain’s surprise choice for running mate, according to two senior campaign officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement was pending.
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    She already has a national reputation for bucking her party’s establishment and Alaska’s powerful oil industry back home.

    With ethics the centerpiece of her campaign, Palin defeated incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski, who served 22 years in the U.S. Senate before winning the governor’s seat in 2002.

    Her task didn’t seem any easier in the general election, but she handily beat Tony Knowles, a popular Democrat who already served two terms as governor.

    During her first year in office, Palin distanced herself from the powerful old guard of the state Republican Party, even calling on Sen. Ted Stevens to explain to Alaskans why federal authorities were investigating him.

    Since then, their relationship has warmed, and they have appeared together at several events. Stevens even said lawmakers should follow Palin’s lead in her efforts to get a natural gas pipeline built.

    Stevens is scheduled to go on trial Sept. 22 in Washington, D.C., on charges he failed to disclose more than $250,000 in home renovations and gifts from executives at oil services contractor VECO Corp. He won the GOP primary on Tuesday with more than 60 percent of the vote. He’s pleaded not guilty.

    Palin also asked Alaska’s congressional delegation to be more selective in seeking earmarks after what came to be known as the “Bridge to Nowhere” turned into a national embarrassment and a symbol of piggish pork-barrel spending.

    She also successfully took on the oil industry, leading to a tax increase on oil company profits that now has the state’s treasury swelling.

    Typically seen walking the Capitol halls in black or red power suits while reading text messages on Blackberry screens in each hand, Palin made a recent appearance in Vogue, the fashion magazine.

    And she oversees a state that’s hardly shy about admiring her swept-back hair and celebrated smile. Bumper stickers and blogs have proclaimed Alaska and Palin: “Coldest State, Hottest Governor.”

    Palin describes herself as a “hockey mom” and an occasional commercial fisherwoman. She lives in Wasilla, a town of 6,500 about 30 miles north of Anchorage, with her husband, Todd, a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who competes in the Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. He is part Yup’ik Eskimo.

    Her previous political experience consisted of terms as Wasilla’s mayor and councilwoman and a stint as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

    Palin’s troubles with the GOP began when Murkowski named her chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. There, Palin exposed current Alaska Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruedrich, who was also an AOGCC commissioner, for ethical violations.

    In 2005, Palin co-filed an ethics complaint against Murkowski’s longtime aide and then attorney general, Gregg Renkes, for having a financial interest in a company that stood to gain from an international trade deal he was helping craft.

    The Palins have five children: Track, 19; Bristol 17; Willow 14; Piper, 7, and Trig, who was born in April with Down syndrome.

    Track enlisted in the Army in 2007 on the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and has been assigned to Fort Wainwright in Fairbanks.

    Palin was born Feb. 11, 1964, in Idaho, but her parents moved to Alaska shortly after her birth to teach. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987.

  • Idunn

    McCain’s BAD JUDGMENT is the meme

    I’d say his judgement is excellent.

  • basil9

    ok Carby.
    Couldn’t help myself 😉

    BTW, Palin’s son is in the military and may be in Iraq. Not sure of that.

  • Idunn

    What we need to do is get Republican women to turn out to vote in droves.

    And I, for one, plan on doing just that. :)

  • Norma Desmond

    Thanks Basil

    I am sure I will see them, but I agree COMPLETELY, we really need to get off the fashion and beauty queen express . We hated it with Hillary, we will not do it to other women no matter how much we dislike them.

    We need to hold BOTH PARTIES AND THE MEDIA TO ACCOUNT and slam them WHENEVER EITHER SIDE engage in this shit. It keeps women in a place of subjective judgment by those less wualified and those who think women are less.

  • Idunn

    emjay, got a link to that article?

  • Illinois Underground

    YAHOO!!!!!!!!! SHOUTING: YESTERDAY MAY HAVE BEEN A RED-LETTER DAY FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, BUT TODAY IS ANOTHER RED-LETTER DAY FOR WOMEN AND FOR THOSE WHO RESPECT THEM.

    :doing happy dance:

    ps – can we please refrain from criticizing Gov. Palin’s choice of clothing, whatever she wears?

  • Norma Desmond

    LOL

    Palin calls her husband “The First Dude”

    LMAO!!!

    Bill Clinton, get ready, DUDE!

  • Illinois Underground

    Norma, I was writing that at the same time as your post. AGREED!

  • Norma Desmond

    Basil, Palin’s son deploying later in the year.

  • pm317

    carbynew Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:44 am
    —————–
    I was not just making a fashion statement. What they choose to wear is a window into who they are and what they bring to the role they have to play. You can’t go wearing shorts to a black tie dinner and say they have to accept me as is — there has to be something exponentially redeeming about you that they will accept you as is. Unfortunately most of us are constrained by the mores of the society we live in.

  • Norma Desmond

    IU – It IS up to us to keep them in check, and ourselves. We have been conditioned to have that “look at her hair” “look at her dress” thing as part of OUR psyche’s too.

    HILLARY CLINTON WE LOVE YOU! We have pushed women front and center and we will reward you for that in 2012. BIG TIME

  • NewMexicoFan

    Go to aol.com polls and vote for Palin as McCain’s choice.

  • confloyd

    I will never forget Hillary being mad about the harry and louise ads. She got up on a stage with those ads in her hand and said”Meet me in Ohio, Barack Obama”, so it is only fitting that McCain takes this fight at “high noon” to Ohio!! ROTFLMAO!!

    Ok Chicago thugs you are on notice!! Go ahead and try to treat Sarah like you all treated Hillary!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    McCain picked another outsider, with a history of taking on her own party over corruption, etc.

    McCain is tacking fast back to his maverick roots.

  • confloyd

    YES, HILLARY DID THIS, SHE PUT WOMEN ON THE FRONT BURNER!!

  • Norma Desmond

    I agree that TASTE has something to do with your perceptions of self and of protocol and judgment, but the “fat ankles” thing that Hillary got or the “shrill” laugh was what keeps women as sex objects.

  • basil9

    Dems are already mocking palin’s beauty pagaent past.

  • pm317

    # Illinois Underground Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    ps – can we please refrain from criticizing Gov. Palin’s choice of clothing, whatever she wears?
    —————–

    from what I have seen of her pictures, she is doing fine in that department, except for those bangs, :)

  • Norma Desmond

    Anyone been to the Obamaboards? or DU?

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    I think McCain’s pick of Palin is risky, but you know what? It won’t keep me from voting for the man. Actually, I think it’s a slap in the office of Obafraud who claims to be the candidate of change, yet goes for a Washington insider/attack dog to make up for his thin resume. He chose to kick Hillary once again, instead of guaranteeing the Democrats victory in November..nice Barry! I know Hillary’s voters will be enticed and tempted to vote for McCain now even more. In all, I think it was a smart move. It not only takes away the spotline from Obambi, but the McCain campaign can also claim to be agents of change by nominating only the second woman ever as VP, and the first female VP candidate for the Republicans…brilliant!

  • moononpluto

    I love her

    Palin’s First Shot at Obama

    I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!!

  • JanH

    Hey Obama!

    Take your criticisms of Palin and choke on it!

    At least McCain didn’t pick a plagiarist/old washington politics guy!

  • Norma Desmond

    Janet reno, Condi Rice, even Nasty Pelosi are all criticized for their LOOKS, their hair or their terrible multiple facelifts….

    their ACHIEVEMENTS (despite whether you agree with them or not) are always the Sub-head.

    It’s TERRIBLE and we need it to stop.

  • basil9

    pm,

    I agree about appropriate attire. Personally, I can’t stand the sight of professional women traipsing about with a lot of flesh showing. You never see business men with bare arms, exposed skin. It’s always suit and tie with all body parts covered.

    That IS the appropriate dress for important occasions. Let’s face it, the sight of women with bare skin conjures centuries old stereotypes and reinforces patriarchal views on women as property. Women who flaunt that in very public very important public settings play into the same old tired patriarchal perspective. Other fashion choices are fine in less formal settings, IMHO.

  • Norma Desmond

    Moononpluto~! Did she say that?

  • Emjay

    Another item yhat I posted after admin told us new article was up:
    ——————————–

    btw

    I heard on PBS last week that Sarah and Randy Ruedrich still don’t speak to each other. She says as The state’s Rep Party Chief, he has nothing to do with the governing of Alaska, so communication w/ him is not necessary anyway.

    Ha!

  • birdgal

    Palin’s First Shot at Obama

    I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!!

    I LOVE HER ALREADY!!!

  • Norma Desmond

    Yes, I agree, I don;t want the first lady or the VP or the Speaker of the House looking like a hooker, but we need to really start looking at the ACCOMPLISHMENTS and the convictions and the politics of these folks before whether they have bangs.

  • basil9

    Norma,

    Agreed but MO sniped at HRC using the same man-against-woman arguments used for centuries, including the scornful, “if she can’t run her own house how can she run the WH.”

    If that’s not pandering to repression by intimating that a woman’s most important role is keeping her man ‘happy’ i don’t know what is.

    She invited stereotypical comparsons by firing the first shot.

  • moononpluto

    Mr Palin is rather gorgeous.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Norma, we always pick on the looks and dress of politicians. How many hair plug jokes have we made about Biden?

    I agree that doing it exclusively or relentlessly to women is wrong. But I don’t think any and all reference to appearance is automatically wrong.

  • basil9

    Norma,

    MO has no accomplishments unless ‘World’s- Angriest -Woman’ qualifies plus she’s is the first one to really attack HRC on female issues, opening the floodgates and encouraging the media piling on.

    MO made that ‘if you can’t run your own house’ statement in February.

  • Emjay

    c-span is going to show a 30 minute interview they did w/ Palin when she was in Washington for the Guv’s Conference.

  • Emjay

    oops- they are showing the first part of it now

  • wbboei

    I think Obama is shitting like a wild boar in a peach orchard. No convention bounce to speak of and now Sara Palin–someone who cleaned up state corruption, as opposed to Obama who revelled in it. Obama drips with stench of corruption–he is like a mackeral in the moonlight–he shines but he stinks.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Wow, Palin!!!

  • Norma Desmond

    They are speaking about the press attention she will be getting.

    I will say, that when we did our Hillary parade in Denver, there we were in the front row, and suddenly, a voice….”Gloria Alred would like to march with you” I turned around, invited Gloria to the front with us, and when I yurned around there mush have been 300 THREE HUNDRED of the world media 30 inches away. They cam from NO WHERE and it was a wall of cameras, video equipment, sound booms and flash bulbs like i have never witnessed personally ANYWHERE. It must be what Madonna goes through daily. They were three deep and three levels hig, and stretched fifty feet from side to side. It was quite overwhelming. And they stayed that way for quite a while. We couldn’t move forward. Then they walked backwards for quite a while while Gloria and Elizabeth were interviewing. It was AMAZING.

  • Norma Desmond

    sorry about all the typos. I am watching MSNBC’s slamming Palin out of one ear as a I type

  • shenanigans

    Tied in the polls, what does McCain do?

    THE HAIL SARA PASS!

  • basil9

    moon,

    And Palin looks HOT with that AK-47 in her hands. LOL

    I was toying with the idea of getting a gun permit now that i live in the country and the sight of Palin nudged me that much closer.

    And her hubby IS a hunk! He’s part eskimo.

  • Norma Desmond

    Informed, I don’t and I too am guilty, but it is what we have been working for for months now with the DNC and the media.

    And women do it too. Just look at Mika. She slams women all day long

  • kostner

    McCain Talkilng Points on Palin

    TALKING POINTS: GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN

    Governor Sarah Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her Administration and has seen approval ratings of over 80 percent.

    · She has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy resources.

    · She leads a state that matters to every one of us — Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent.

    · She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending. And she put a stop to the bridge to nowhere that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.

    · In Alaska, she challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill.

    · As the head of Alaska’s National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.

    Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington.

    In choosing Governor Sarah Palin, John McCain put Washington on notice that he is serious about shaking up the status quo.

    What we’re seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state.

    What it’s going to take to change Washington is a team of Mavericks who have a record of accomplishment in shaking up the status quo.

  • basil9

    wbboei!

    You come up with the most VIVID images!

    “…a wild boar in a peach orchard”

  • Illinois Underground

    Norma, that’s one of the many reasons we can’t stand playmate Mika.

    Anyone, what’s the song they’re playing?

  • wbboei

    SLATE EDITOR: “LIKE HILLARY SHE (SARA PALIN) IS ONE TOUGH COOKIE”

    All right, now I’m excited. Back in March, I cast my primary vote for John McCain with confidence. His values, his stance on the issues matched mine better than those of any other Republican. His campaign was on a roll, the reports of its death the previous summer having been greatly exaggerated. He seemed to have the best chance of winning. But once he got the nomination, he just seemed … lackluster. Granted, almost no one is going to look charismatic compared with Barack Obama, but when I saw an episode of The Daily Show with McCain talking to the press at a supermarket, standing in front of a large display of Dole orange juice, I knew what the joke was before Jon Stewart could open his mouth. . John McCain = Bob Dole.

    But now he’s gone and picked Sarah Palin, the young governor of Alaska for his running mate, and I could not be happier. Aside from her political bona fides, she is one cool woman. She’s married to her high-school sweetheart, an Eskimo fisherman and “champion snowmobiler,” according to her Wikipedia bio. They have five kids, all with slightly hippie-ish names, like Track and Willow. (No Prestons and Whitneys in that bunch.)

    She’s bound to appeal to fiscal conservatives, because she’s as far as you can get from her fellow Alaskan Ted Stevens, the GOP senator recently indicted for “false financial disclosures” (read: corruption). She unseated Gov. Frank Murkowski in a primary and has both pushed through ethics reform and trimmed the fat from the state budget. She even killed the infamous “bridge to nowhere” project that brought Congress and Alaska so much ridicule.

    Politically, it’s a great move by McCain to appeal to the disgruntled Hillary voters that Obama might not have successfully wooed during the convention this week. Yes, she’s pro-life, but she’s not just talk. Faced with the heartbreaking news that her fifth child would likely have Down syndrome, she continued on with the pregnancy and gave birth to a son while in office, a son she calls “perfect.” And like Hillary, she’s one tough cookie. You don’t take on an entrenched pol like Murkowski and succeed in a rugged state like Alaska if you’re a lightweight.

  • Illinois Underground

    Notice Big Mac (oooh, I like that) and his fam came up through their supporters. Stood among them for a good long while.

  • Illinois Underground

    OMG – he’s addressing the folks from AMONG them!!!!

  • Illinois Underground

    Oh, it’s his BIRTHDAY!

  • HillaryforTexas

    CognitiveDissonance, on August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm Said:
    OMG, I can’t believe it! I’m laughing my a** off! I’ve been thinking for weeks that if McCain really wanted to cream Obama, he would pick Sarah Palin. She’s an attractive pick on so many levels, and I’m not talking about her face. She may be new to those of you on the East Coast, but she’s pretty well known here on the West Coast. I’ve long admired her, and partly because she’s tough like Hillary. When she played basketball, she was known as Sarah Barracuda. She had an attack dog like Biden when she ran and won, and she tore him a new one in debates. Like Hillary, she does her homework. She may not have been in her current office long, but she’s not going to embarrass McCain.

    And I don’t feel insulted at all that McCain is pandering to us. Unlike our own party and Odumby, he realizes that we are a valuable constituency. He’s been out actively courting us ever since Hillary left the race. Why do you think Hillary keeps appearing in his ads? And why he keeps complimenting her? And don’t forget that he really is against corruption, and I doubt it escapes him how his friend Hillary lost this campaign. He may be relieved that he doesn’t have to run against her. But friends care when a friend gets screwed over.

    The fact that he made this pick is telling us that he knows how important we are. When was the last time a democrat said that to us? We’ve been hearing all year that we aren’t important, that we should just get over it, that we should shut our mouths. It’s too bad that it’s going to take a republican to show the country that women are important. But the message is important, and I’m glad to see it. McCain has risen in my estimation. And here’s another benefit. We kept hearing that the fauxgressives weren’t against women, just Hillary. They’ve painted themselves into a corner. If they go after Palin, they’ve shown the world what liars they are.

  • pm317

    basil9 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    —————–
    Yea, I know. This is not about some frivolous discussion on how women look that completely ignores their accomplishments. (my bangs comment was in jest, it is like saying a man looks better with a different haircut). It is clarity of purpose — why are you here? I can’t go stand in front my 40 male or female students in a short skirt and a low neck blouse — that would take away the seriousness of purpose of teaching them relational algebra. I could try but I am forcing them to accept something that is not widely practiced and is a distraction to my purpose of being there. Men don’t have as many options as we have but still have you ever seen a male professor go in front of his class in something he would wear on the beach or even just plain shorts?

    {the lack of seriousness in Obama’s team at the convention is something I saw and they may not even be aware that that is how it is coming across. Running for the leader of the free world is serious business.}

  • admin

    We just updated the article with quick thoughts on Palin. Let us know what you think.

    Congratulations Kostner – you pushed for Palin the most. Congratulations to those of you who thought Palin. Brilliant choice.

  • Illinois Underground

    Go, Kostner! I am SOOOOOO happy (and sad) right now.

  • HillaryforTexas

    YES!!!!!! McCain givng props to women’s suffrage!!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    LMAO!

    “She stands up for what’s right, and doesn’t let anyone tell her to SIT DOWN.”

    Crowd goes wild.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Guys, I am crying. I know she’s a Republican, but dammit there is a WOMAN on that stage, and I am bawling.

  • Illinois Underground

    H4T, me too. And, I’m supposed to be working!

  • lil ole grape

    Whoa, there Clyburn, Gerry was not a disaster! One of my best memories of that campaign was when she debated Bush, Sr. I sat there thinking, “She’s so good! She’s making him look like a mealy-mouthed weasel!”

    We’ve got to stop trivializing women by focusing on what they wear. Leave that to the bimbos on TV. That said, may I add (with a tsk, tsk) that MO is pandering to sexist notions about what women ought to look like because she, like her mate, doesn’t know who she is or what she stands for. Hillary’s attire showed she was “all business.” Hillary is comfortable with who she is.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Holy Shit! Palin hubby is hot!

  • Illinois Underground

    Look at Big Mac – he’s so proud, he’s ready to bust!

  • Idunn

    Damn, anywhere I can go to see this?

  • HillaryforTexas

    Is FOX streaming live? Try that, Idunn. I am watching on TV

  • admin

    Hillary is still smashing the glass ceiling. Watching this is very painful.

    For Hillary:

  • pm317

    wow! she really said good old boys network.

  • HillaryforTexas

    admin, it is very bittersweet for me as well. Hillary did this. SHE made it possible.

  • pm317

    This may be premature but I am in awe. I am listening to her at the Ohio event.

  • Illinois Underground

    I feel some strongly worded letters to NOW, NARAL and Emily’s list coming on. They’ve completely lost their way over the last decades.

  • lil ole grape

    This takes nothing from Hillary — PAlin is chosen for VP, not Pres — HIllary ran for President and did it damned well and won. Palin has broken no new ground, she is the 2nd woman to be chose for VP. Gerry was the first, but Our Hillary is still number one!

  • HillaryforTexas

    She is honoring Hillary BIGTIME now.

  • birdgal

    I’m crying.

  • Illinois Underground

    Here it comes! They’d better not boo….

  • Emjay

    Idunn

    Just saw your question:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_veepstakes_palin

    btw Sarah just gave a GREAT and gracious shout-out to Geraldine and our girl!

  • admin

    Clyburn slams Ferraro. Palin praises Ferraro – and Hillary.

  • Illinois Underground

    @admin: confounding isn’t it?

  • Berkeley Vox

    Dick Morris, sleazebag/political genius, had been saying that if McCain picked a woman, the race is over and he wins easily. I think he’s right, and the more I read about Palin, the more I think, okay, this year is over, McCain is the next president. THEN, the interesting question now becomes, what about 2012?

  • moononpluto

    WOW, SHE IS GOOD BEYOND GOOD Bambi is sooooo fucked.

  • basil9

    I’m crying again, with pride and regret that HRC wasn’t the one on stage by Palin hit it out of the park.
    She said ALL the things BOMOJO wouldn’t

    She homored women’s suffagists, HRC and Ferraro.
    She paid respect to HRC’s accomplishments.
    I am thrilled with this ticket and i will vote McCain/Palin without a single regret.
    My only criticsim . .

    WTH chose that IDIOTIC closing music????!!!!!! Talk about anti-climactic!!!!!!

  • Illinois Underground

    Executive
    Reformer
    Sportswoman
    Journalist
    handsome working family

    Mac is one smart and courageous dude! He reminded me why I’ve always liked him (I’m a sucker for reformers). Now, if he just moderates another party plank or two with his leadership, it’s game – set – match.

    I’m so sad it’s not Hillary, though.

  • moononpluto

    The bots are furious, you can tell they are shitting themselves.

  • HillaryforTexas

    McCain just won the Whitehouse. Palin was a briiliant pick. Middle america is going to love love love this woman.

    Sorry, but that’s the truth. I know voters.

  • confloyd

    Its sad that it is not Hillary, but McCain/Palin will be honoring Hillary at every corner, something I might add Bambi hasn’t done.

    I am just so excited, the headache I have had for 4 days is now gone. Geez, I wonder if it had anything to do with the smacking of Hillary everyday at the convention.

    She gave a good speech and gave credit to the women before her.

    I hope Brazoid is pissing her pants!

  • carbynew

    I going to go to a Republican rally…this will be my first time and now that the Democratic? Taliban Party jumped off the clift I can now campaign for McCain.

    I love McCain/Palin ticket and she give a great speech, if fact better then Obama, who has to have his speeches written for him.

    Obama is TOAST!!!

    What a bitter young man and those he surround himself with.

    Now this is the Republican party I like…the reform ticket.

    Remember, Martin Luther King jr. was a Republican…he never became a Democrat!

  • admin

    Did everyone notice the crowd was shouting USA! USA!

    At Obama rallies we get the “Yes we can”

    Which slogan wins in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania? We bet USA! is much more popular than Ob-am-a, Ob-am-a.

  • confloyd

    SHe is kinda like a Ann RIchards, very frank, and a different kind of women!

  • admin

    When you go carbynew, wear your Hillary gear.

  • Emjay

    Woke up this morning to the news that Palin and her family had been slipped into the Cincinnati airport on a private plane…I still listen to WGN radio overnight-

    Thought it might just be a headfake rumor.

    They were saying they chose Cincy in order to avoid the media hawks at the Dayton airport.

    btw, I got my M.S. at Wright State- a stone’s throw from Wright Patterson AFB.

    In fact the land for the University was donated by the Air Force.

    I wonder how Emily’s List is reacting.

  • basil9

    Still boo-hooing and an hour late for an appointment.

    How poignant that today was Johnny’s birthday, Palin’s 20th wedding anniversary and the week of the 88th celebration of women’s suffrage.

    And notice how neither she nor Johnny needed a tele-prompter?

    BTW – what happened to Cindy’s arm? She has a cast on.

    Gotta go but will check in later for more happy dance time.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Emjay, you need to watch her acceptance speech later. The woman was DAMN GOOD. This was no “token”. McCain just won the Whitehouse.

  • Idunn

    Tell me what she said about HRC and Gerri.

  • pm317

    admin Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Hillary is still smashing the glass ceiling. Watching this is very painful.
    ———————————

    I was crying my heart out but also laughing that somebody got back to the shameful DNC and the Obama cabal.

  • marie3548

    Spokesman Bill Burton:
    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency…

    Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
    His remarks are elitist and out of touch.”

    Obama hates small town America. He never learns

  • HillaryforTexas

    admin, I will be wearing my Hillary gear to any McCain functions I attend.

  • admin

    Another thing: McCain could have blown up the unDemocratic convention with this announcement. He didn’t because he knew it would help Hillary. The Republicans wanted to run against loser Obama.

  • basil9

    Admin,

    That was POWERFUL!!!!!!!!

    And notice how LONG the ovation went on when Johnny appeared????????

  • Southern Born

    It does not matter if it came from a rooster or a hen, we are getting a Mac Nugget when we could have had prime grade A.

  • confloyd

    Did anyone see that sign at the rally that said Hillary Clinton’s supporters for John McCain!!

    Now all the republicans need to do is play the whitey tape and Obama, Dean, Pelosi, and Brazilla will be toast!! I love it!!

  • pm317

    H4T, I think the race is over. She said the “good old boys network” for God’s sake.

  • Idunn

    Oh man…is any of this on youtube yet? I’m totally missing out. :(

  • moononpluto

    I think the US Media never expected McCain would have the balls to pick her.

  • Berkeley Vox

    check rasmussen today — no significant convention bounce for Bambi, is the takeaway! and of course now we’re going to get wall-to-wall Republican party coverage for the next week, so once the conventions are over, McCain/Palin will be sitting pretty

  • HillaryforTexas

    Idunn, paraphrase, but she said she could not accept this honor, in this week honoring women given the right to vote, without giving credit to the women who paved the way. Geralding Ferraro and, of course, Hillary Clinton. HUGE CHEERS.

    Said that Hillary put 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling, and thanked her for that. Said she wants to break it, but had to honor those who put those cracks there for her.

    It was great.

  • Illinois Underground

    Southern, I agree “we coulda had a V-8” – but at least Mac DOES what he CAN do.

  • kostner

    McCain camp pushes back: More qualified than Obama

    McCain aide Jill Hazelbaker:

    It is pretty audacious for the Obama campaign to say that Governor Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. She has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for President.

  • admin

    Idunn, she talked about Hillary leaving 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling and that women are not through yet cracking the glass ceiling. Palin then invited Americans to join McCain/Palin in smashing more of the glass ceiling.

    HillaryForTexas, hopefully all will do like you and wear Hillary gear to political rallies – Big Media will interview Hillary wearing voters at Republican rallies and the Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi will always rue the day they snubbed Hillary and us.

    PM317, ain’t it grand. Revenge is best served cold.

  • confloyd

    Well, I know that John McCain could have announced this early, but let us not forget this is a race and you don’t give your opponent a spot. I don’t blame him for wanting to run against the candidate that has a broken big toe!

  • Idunn

    Oh man…is it wrong that I’m starting to love Sarah?

  • admin

    BerkeleyVox, is Rasmussen out for today? If Obama is not in double digits today…. Suicide, Rigor Mortis, Funeral.

  • Idunn

    I wonder what is going through HRC’s mind right now.

    (sigh) I hope Bambi gets his ass served to him on a fucking platter. 😡

  • Berkeley Vox

    Isn’t it funny how even though McCain’s pick was a thousand times more stunning than the boring Biden pick, and even though the Obama camp had hyped for no end how their announcement would be made by text message, that the Obama pick leaked early and the Palin pick was kept under wraps? lol

  • Illinois Underground

    Hillary “owns” our hearts – Big Johnny and Sarah are renters.

  • pm317

    She has a populist message for a republican (I will have to go back and listen again) and reform and change. Whatever she said sounded very smart and she substantiated it with what she has done in her career — so it did not sound phony. There was an authenticity to what she said that I have not seen before. I am still in awe — she said the good old boys network as a matter of course and got away with it.

  • confloyd

    Yeah, she sure did mention the “good ole boy network”!! I am LMAO!!

  • Illinois Underground

    She’s closer to a Ron Paul type than anything else – that will be perfect.

  • Norma Desmond

    There is a fine line here:

    FIRST AND FOREMOST, it is a GREAT DAY in American Politics in every sense. We have a MAJOR WOMAN CANDIDATE, an AA Candidate, and a woman on the ticket as VEEP. THIS IS A GREAT DAY IN AMERICAN POLITICS.

    HILLARY HAS BROKEN THE CEILING.

    Second: The Republicans have NOT been our friends. Perhaps McCain can say go to hell to the far right base now and work on an agenda that includes all Americans. We need to remember this and hold them to account. Hillary is a died in the wool FDR Democrat, and those ARE the people who we would like to see in office. The FAR LEFT DEAN/Pelosi/Brazile/Obama crowd has done NOTHING for women except throw them under the bus.

    And although we as women MUST be respected in Politics, PLEASE, we cannt throw the baby out with the bathwater by going all the way for the Republicans.

    Watch, learn, and hold to account. The Republicans have tried for 16 years and longer to destroy Hillary, and although JSM and HRC are FRIENDS, they are still ideological foes.

    It will be interesting.

  • kostner

    From Fox:

    GERALDINE FERRARO: It’s going to be a very interesting campaign. I must say that several months ago I said that it would be great if there was a woman on the ticket, that I felt that John McCain would have to pick someone, especially if Hillary was the nominee, but without Hillary being the nominee it’s really quite equally as important, because people are looking for a historic campaign, and I think this might do it. There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated by the media, by how she was treated by the Obama campaign, by how she was treated by the Democratic National Committee, Howard Dean not speaking up when sexism raised its ugly head in the media. (Inaudible)

  • Norma Desmond

    dyed…sorry ! LOL

  • Berkeley Vox

    idunn, I bet Hillary is smiling quietly to herself, thinking, well-played, Senator McCain…you just made yourself the next President. And Hillary is so gracious and selfless that I bet that even though she strongly disagrees with Palin’s politics, she is glad to know that America can elect a woman to the vice presidency.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Palin just did what NONE of the Dem leadership could bring themselves to do. She honored Hillary’s achievement in a very heartfelt way.

  • pm317

    They had McCain’s rep (on Fox) and this is how they will frame her foreign policy experience (lack there of as Obama people would want to argue) — tying it to energy independence and coherent energy policy and she knows a thing or two about Oil.

  • kostner

    First Impression [Kathleen Parker]

    Spunky and self-confident. She’ll handle Biden just fine.

    08/29 12:48 PM

  • Norma Desmond

    And here is another thought. If McCain wins, there is a chance that Palin and HRC could be BOTH running in 2012, and THAT would be a FABULOUS THING for the advancement of American Women and women around the world.

    Well done McCain.

  • Berkeley Vox

    admin — yes: Obama has just a 3-point lead, which is almost within the margin of error:

    —–

    Friday, August 29, 2008
    rasmussen.com

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 46% of the vote nationwide while John McCain earns 43%.

  • MIDem

    Congratulations John McCain!!

    You proved your wisdom and strength.

  • moononpluto

    That Speech has blown me away, she sill bring in blue collar voters and women and union members in spades.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I would not be at all surprised if Hillary and Johnny Mac had a conversation or two over this pick. If so, I would bet our Hillary told him: “Go for it.”

  • Illinois Underground

    Berkeley – I think you’ve nailed it. Smiling quietly and cheering her colleague for his toughness and creativity – with all her characteristic intelligence, grace, dignity and humor.

  • confloyd

    It really won’t make much difference who or what they tie her to, because once they play the Whitey tapes and the tape of Obama saying terrible things about American in 06′ while in Africa, that will be all over for the dumocrats!

  • Norma Desmond

    Yes Admin, good show. The Obama?Dean?Pelosi?Brazile bitter politics Dems have just thrown a winning 16 years away because they COULD NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH

  • kostner

    Rush just said the mention of Hillary and Geraldine was GENIUS! Rush says as the Drive-Bys try to destroy her, they will destroy themselves. Barry could have picked a woman but he didn’t. So Joe loves to bloody noses, she knows about getting knocked down and middle America will love her. Rush says she is extremely confident and will inspire other women. Questions for Barry to ask her—Governor is hunting scary? Do you cut your finger on the hook when you fish?

  • Norma Desmond

    Confloyd, I understand the whitey tapes will only be the tip of the iceburg

  • pm317

    Norma, you’re right. This is a temporary euphoria for what the DNC, the media and the Obama campaign did to Hillary and the notion of a viable woman presidential candidate. I see the Republicans as advancing our cause right now which is as you said FDR Democrats in the WH and not Obamacrats.

  • Emjay

    Full Sarah Palin 30-minute interview now on c-span. They are starting it over from the beginning.

  • moononpluto

    Of course the men journalists are bashing her already, you can smell the fear.

  • Illinois Underground

    The Obama campaign also told CNN Friday the choice of Palin takes the question of experience “off the table.”

    “Experience is being taken off the table considering you’re putting someone within a heartbeat of the presidency with the thinnest foreign policy experience in history,” spokesman Bill Burton said.

    Update: Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the 4th ranking House Democrat, said in a statement the choice of Palin “shows political panic.”

    “Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin’s lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn’t show judgment: it shows political panic,” he said.

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
    * * * * *
    Are they serious? Pack these pigs off to the farm. Coward and Bradzilla must be having twin cows just about now.

  • kostner

    To: riri
    I was at a meeting with a client this morning…they are a CPA firm. After the meeting we all walked to the lobby where a TV showed McCain introducing Palin.

    The excitement was incredible. Women were very pleased.

    It was great to see 25 people standing in front of a TV excited about a Republican for a change.

    Let’s hope she doesn’t have to spew McCains populist message too much and can stand on her own…a strong, conservative woman.

    After, she loves the caribou…for dinner.

  • pm317

    I don’t even think the whitey tapes will be necessary if McCain/Palin adopt somewhat middle of the road message.

  • Emjay

    Idunn

    If you ever want a stream of something like this, or like the convention, go to c-span.

    No overtalk, no snarky commentary.

  • wbboei

    ADMIN: you are the best political analyst I have seen. Once again your posting above captures the significance of the moment and gives us the important clues on what lies around the corner.

    Let me suggest one thing more. The coronation of Obama represents the triumph of party over country, whereas the selection of palin (and mccain himself) represents the truimph of country over party.

    mj: if you are around, you were right and I was wrong. You did your homework on this one and I did not.

    I have a strong emotional attachment to Alaska based on the times I spent there. They have always been a place that was plundered by outside interests and when the boom ended others reaped the rewards. The old boy network always saw to that. It was true of the gold rush, the fishing industry, the timber industry and of course the oil industry. Thus, it is great to see someone like her who fights for the people.

    The message to biden is this is not bush 3. It is a new party that puts the people of this country back in charge. And the symbolism of this coming from the frontier state is great. Hope is not a word it is action, and in the new republican party you have action. Now we need to unite and crush rezcko junior, crazy joe and big media whores so the democratic party can be put taken out of the hands of the teddy kennedys and Soros and put back in the hands of the people. Long live Hillay and Bill–they will be needed/

  • HillaryforTexas

    Thanks for the video, admin. I miss our gal, but I am so proud of her, too. I want to see the current DNC leadership go DOWN with Obama, so she can step in in 2012 and rebuild it.

    It is giving me great personal joy that it will be a WOMAN who exacts the price for what the DNC did to Hillary. Palin will win this election for McCain, no doubt in my mind.

  • moononpluto

    Anyone else think Sarah Palin could flatten Obama in a one on one fist fight with one hand behind her back.

    She’s a mom with 5 kids, no greater experience in security and management.

  • debbie

    2 points

    Palin as VP addresses a broad range of issues, Biden, national security only

    the other, it is absolutely refreshing to see someone in the republican party not afraid to stand up to the status quo and challenge their own party members.

  • moononpluto

    The bot journo’s are furious that their king just got his ass kicked. They are furious that McCain dared to crash Obama’s party.

  • marie3548

    MCcains new ad

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U
    Surprise Surprise Surprise

  • Norma Desmond

    We have a lot to learn about Palin, and we have a HUGE opportunity to push the McCain platform MORE in OUR direction. I would suggest a big letter-writing campaign to his folks, thanking him for the choice, the nod to women wverywhere then ask, NOW WHAT?

    The same old Big Business and Republican corruption will not work on us. MAKE THEM CHANGE.

  • marie3548

    The bots are all over the place they are insane

  • moononpluto

    Now we have McCains real campaign message

    COUNTRY FIRST

    REFORM-PROSPERITY-PEACE

    http://www.johnmccain.com/Home2.htm

  • admin

    Politico: “Still All About Hillary” is the headline.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Still_all_about_Hillary.html

    The choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate, if confirmed, means one thing most of all: That in a sense, this race is still all about Hillary.

    The imperative for McCain to pick a woman rests on Obama’s continuing, relative weakness with some of the baby boomer women who supported Clinton. McCain’s campaign spent the week of the convention trying to drive wedge between Clinton’s supporters and Obama, and a female running mate would be an ambassador to those voters.

  • Norma Desmond

    # marie3548 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    The bots are all over the place they are insane

    +++++++

    and this is different, how?

  • carbynew

    Obama and the DEMOCRATIC? Talban PARTY is DOA!!!

  • Illinois Underground

    Debbie, Hillfriends: Here in the corrupt state of IL, the only existant reformers of the moment are Repubs. Think Peter Fitzgerald. IL’s “two party” system: the Combine and the Reformers. (The reformers are very small in number right now.)

  • HillaryforTexas

    The bots are FREAKING all over the blogs. Total meltdown. The kool-aid ran out, and they are decompensating BADLY. They are shaking and sweating and blathering nonsense like a crack-head who has been cut off by their dealer.

  • moononpluto

    McCains new campaign message is good.

    COUNTRY FIRST REFORM-PROSPERITY-PEACE

  • Norma Desmond

    Boy Admin, you had it right in the last three days of the Obits for the DNC….

    What STUPID STUPID people, but this WILL take out the leadership and bring American Politics full circle after Obama aand Co lose, and we will have advanced women in leadership and I HOPE gotten away from the VERY divisive ways of the last 20 years.

  • Illinois Underground

    Norma, I agree. I perceive our new opportunity is to unite WOMEN of BOTH parties and include our voices in policy, as well as politics.

  • mp

    She is so articulate and a quick thinker; she appeared so natural and sincere when speaking.

    thank you john mccain!

    I am proud of you for once gain doing the RIGHT thing.

    Forget about the “no/little experience” obamabots. You have the right kind of experience over BO any day! and McCain has better than BO.

    Biden’s experience does not matter in this equation. He was chosen as the worker for BO!

    VP Palin is a quick, smart learner and that is the answer!

  • carbynew

    They are shaking and sweating and blathering nonsense like a crack-head who has been cut off by their dealer.

    ROTFLMAO!!!

    Thank you H4T for that brillaint analysis of the bots….hehehehe

  • admin

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/Palin_invokes_Ferraro_and_HRC.html?showall

    Noting to yet more cheers that she was honored to accept John McCain’s offer to serve as his running mate on nearly 88 years to the day after women gained suffrage, Palin payed homage to two predecessors: Geraldine Ferraro, Walter Mondale’s running mate in 1984, and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Noting Clinton’s statement earlier this week in Denver that her candidacy had led to “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” that has kept a woman from the presidency, Palin said: “But it turns out the women of American aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling.”

  • HillaryforTexas

    The “no foreign policy experience” argument they are spouting is SO laughable it is not funny.

    Apparently, we’re supposed to be worried about foreign policy experience in the vice presidency, but not the presidency.

  • birdgal

    Wow! This election is going to be very exciting. I like Palin, and her directness. She wasn’t afraid or so self-centered, not to give kudos to those women who made this possible. Good for her. This is a shake-up of great magnitude, especially in the Republican party and good ole-boys network. McCain showed a bit of his maverick ways in this choice.

    If I go to a McCain rally, I will wear my Hillary gear. McCain listened to Hillary supporters, in addition to realizing there was treasure trove of votes to be had. He went for it.

  • kostner

    Obama, Again, Exhibits Zero Class [Update: Unlike Obama, Governor Palin Visited Our Wounded Troops in Germany

    h t t p : / / noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/29/obama-again-exhibits-zero-class/#more-4482

  • confloyd

    SHe is very articulate and is able to pump up the ticket!!

    Let us NEVER forget what the DEmocrats did to Hillary and 2 days ago we all vowed to clean out the party and put it back on track and John McCain just made it a whole lot easier.

    BTW, I loved that “from a servants heart”.

  • moononpluto

    a natural speaker, she has barely looked at her speech the whole way through that.

    McCain found the one running mate who is human and so grounded, she has the all american family that has been missing here.

    Her family is real, not plastic fabricated and that my friends is going to be what wins the WH for McCain. The woman is a real person, a real blue collar not like Biden. She’s a grafter. She’s a mother and a wife and a human.

  • dedfg

    Noting Clinton’s statement earlier this week in Denver that her candidacy had led to “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” that has kept a woman from the presidency, Palin said: “But it turns out the women of American aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling.”

    It’s great she acknowledged them, but in a way it takes away from Hillary. I just wanted Hillary to be president.

  • Illinois Underground

    HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    The bots are FREAKING all over the blogs.
    * * * * *
    Samples, please?

  • Norma Desmond

    She also got rid of all the serventrs in the Alaska Gov mansion, and the cooks and stuff, found them jobs too!

    While Obama struggles to pay the $10K piano lessons while looking for his wine cellar.

  • birdgal

    dedfg: I don’t think, it takes anything away from Hillary. Hillary shattered that glass ceiling with 18 million cracks, and Palin recognized it.

  • pm317

    FYI from another blog: Ohio is McCain’s
    ————
    I need to say something. I love Savage. I come here everyday and you guys brighten up my day. I will also say that I voted for Hillary in Ohio in the primaries. I wasn’t sure who I was going to vote for between McCain and Hillary, but I knew I sure didn’t want Obama. I have been on McCain’s site for a few months and if it is Palin, it was not something that was done overnight and in reaction to Obama’s not picking Hillary. We have been giving input to McCain for months and Palin was always on the short list. So while the speculation is that he picked her because Obama didn’t pick Hillary is going around the news pundits, it isn’t so. We were given the chance to voice our opinions to the McCain campaign and a lot of us have been actively pushing for Palin. Even if it isn’t her, we still had the chance to make our voices heard with McCain. And his campaign kept us updated. I am going to back McCain now no matter who he picks. The thought of Obama as president makes me sick to my stomach. So I just wanted to put that out there that this was not a pick just to off set Obama. He had been looking at Palin for a while. McCain has surrounded himself with alot of powerful women from Meg Whittman, Carly Fiorna (sp) and last but not least, his own wife. Hillary was robbed and treated poorly but I am disappointed in the fact that she went through hell and still supported Obama. She knows he is not presidential material. I would have loved to see Hillary run as an Independent. But she didn’t.

  • carbynew

    The male Democratic? pundits are so pissed!!!

    They have the NERVE to say Palin pick for vp will not draw Hillary Clinton’s supporters….are they kidding themselves.

    YES WE CAN vote for a McCain/Palin ticket and I will help sell this ticket with minorities.

  • dedfg

    birdgal: Can Obama drop out now?

  • confloyd

    FOLKS, this does not take away from Hillary, she fought for this, it is not her fault the Dumocrats did not realize that women will be the ones to elect the next president, not the AA’s!

  • HillaryforTexas

    On all the puma blogs, the mods are deleting trolls as fast as they can, so I can’t copy. They are not even human any more, just posting stuff like POOPOO KAKA PUMA KAKA, that goes on for an entire page. They are just cutting and pasting the same statement over and over, 100’s of times. I kid you not.

    A few have come in with “You stupid old hags! How can you vote for a pro-lifer just because she is a woman! WHAT IS WRONG wITH YOU???!!!!”

  • Norma Desmond

    Birdgal, I agree…although we will have to wait, probably for Hil in 2012, this IS what Hillary has worked so hard for all her life, and others WILL benefit now and in the future. It is because of HRC and other strong women, Richards, Abzug, Ferraro, Palin can even be Gov of Alaska

  • Berkeley Vox

    My only disappointment is that this complicates Hillary’s 2012 run, slightly. But hey — you fight the battle in front of you. No whining allowed!

  • pm317

    McCain accomplished something no other could have. Obama’s campaign cannot push Hillary to campaign for him anymore — it will be a reminder after reminder how she was let go, even for VP.

  • Norma Desmond

    It also makes it MUCH easier for her to step back in in in 2012 and make her case that the far left Deaniacs were OFF THE MARK and we need a good strong American Values Dem in the white house – not the elitist pick of the upper crust of oblivion Kerry, Kennedy, et al.

  • Illinois Underground

    WE will elect the next president! Hear us roar!

    OK, now back to work.

  • pm317

    Berkeley, we can worry about that later. Right we just need a placeholder and McCain is that. But having watched Palin, she is no shrinking violet. But we are behind Clinton in 2012.

  • I just heard Sarah Palin speak, and she did thank Hillary for putting 18,000,000 cracks in that hard glass ceiling. She knows who she owes her selection to. She spoke brilliantly, named the “Old Boys Network” and who would have thought that a Republican for vice president would have named the Old Boys Network and called it that? A brilliant, brilliant choice.

    If we have to give up the Supreme Court and abortion rights for some freakin’ R-E-S-P-E-C-T and crush the Democrats for their misogynistic stupidity, it might be worth it.

  • Illinois Underground

    H4T: “stupid old hags”?????? Way to build a coalition. The stupidity of this entire Democratic? primary process has been breathtaking.

  • pm317,

    I see the big picture now, the strategy. Clinton in 2012!!

  • Illinois Underground

    maria, don’t forget that the author of Roe v Wade was a NIXON appointee. The Democratic? Senate will be forced to actually do some work.

  • Emjay

    Wbboei

    Did you send me the work? Havn’t seen anything in the email. If it got bounced back, let me know and I’ll make a second solid contact’

  • pm317

    moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    a natural speaker, she has barely looked at her speech the whole way through that.
    ——————-
    yep, no teleprompters there.

  • Norma Desmond

    If we have to give up the Supreme Court and abortion rights for some freakin’ R-E-S-P-E-C-T and crush the Democrats for their misogynistic stupidity, it might be worth it.

    NO NO NO

    These are lifetime appointments, and the Courts are getting scary already. We must do BOTH, keep women in power, and MAKE the republicans and dems BOTH accountable.

    For those who do not know what it took to GET ROE and KEEP ROE, it ISNT ALL ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS

  • confloyd

    I think she will galvanize the pro-lifer’s to John and will hence be able to show Obama’s vote on late-term abortions front and center for the right wingers because of her last child that has down’s syndrome.

  • carbynew

    Regarding the abortion rights…hey when the Democratic? National Convention had an anti-abortion right speech by and Black minister…that should speak loudly what direction the Democratc were moving to.

    The more our technology improve in showing life in the womb, the weaker support for abortion get. I still believe in choice but the Democrats were movie to limited it anyway.

    Prevention should be the focus.

  • pm317

    Abortion rights is a red herring and we should stop acknowledging that sham threat.

  • Norma Desmond

    Rights to pricacy, rights to our bodies, rights to no be beaten by our husbands.

    TOO MANY WOMEN HAVE DIED for this right, and to throw that away is INTOLERABLE especially for revenge. We MUST play smarter

  • moononpluto

    and they McCain was Grandad and a pushover.

    I think Obama just got his clock cleaned.

  • Norma Desmond

    pm…abortion rights AS IT IS BEING USED BY THE DEMS IS a red herring, but the REAL rights conferred are NOT. Lose Roe, lose the first amendment next. Lose title 9. DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you cast aside Roe with a wave of the hand.

  • moononpluto

    Evangelical leaders have just flocked to McCain in an instant, there is elation in Christian households. This is what they wanted.

    they are already reacting with elation.

  • ABM90

    Hill supporters the time has come for all of us to turn the page and start a campaign to have Hillary named the new Senate majority leader.she will maintain her prominence in US politics and keep a lid on any more attempts to destroy our elevtoral process.She could well be even more important and more powerful than any one on either side of the aisle.In fact if by any
    stroke of bad luck we get Obama instead of McCain.she will be able to keep him insignificant and thart his attempts to promote his “LEGACY OF RESTITUTION ” campaign promise to his AA
    supporters. Let us start some smart moves and give this great Lady a reward for her tough and brave efforts to save this country from going Third World. I will vote for McCain and keep up my efforts to have Hillary as the Senate leader and in 2012
    she will be our 45th President.

    By ABM90 . If I am able to muster this much energy and
    determination at my age then I expect to have some of you youngsters out there to join me and make it happen.

    “HILLARY FOR MAJORITY LEADER” Go Girl

  • confloyd

    I certainly hope the msm begin calling Sarah those unspeakable names as they did Hillary and see what happens, millions and millions of women will revolt!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Palin is not and has never been a big anti-abortion activist. She is about as weak a pro-lifer as it gets. She is mouthing the words “Roe v Wade overturn” as a sop to the fundamentalists, so as not to scare them off.

    Neither she nor McCain have any intention whatsoever of touching Roe. Neither did Bush. Neither do any of them.

  • Illinois Underground

    Norma, agreed. The US Senate must do it’s work. Don’t forget, HILLARY will be THERE. Maybe she’ll take on the judiciary committee – she would do a better job than Biden’ (his time) aka the only one who didn’t say “no.”

  • dedfg

    Hillary for President, not majority leader.

  • Illinois Underground

    YES, ABM90: HILLARY FOR SENATE MAJORITY LEADER! (Perhaps that was the deal?) Negates the SCOTUS argument.

  • kostner

    HillaryforTexas,

    I completely agree. She also vetoed a discrimination bill against gays by Alaska Supreme court.

  • Illinois Underground

    dedfg – there’s still a chance in 2008 if BO gets indicted, I suppose. Hillary in 2012, then.

  • dedfg

    If she becomes majority leader than she cannot run in 2012. If that is the case then no to majority leader.

  • pm317

    She said “good old boys network” as a matter of course in a major first appearance on the national scene and demonstrated the courage to pull it off. I just can’t get over that. This is women’s progress. Tell me if I am exaggerating.

  • admin

    Norma agreed. Abortion rights are important. The problem is Democrats think they can wave a red flag and the bulls will charge.

    Our 2 points on this issue have been consistent:

    1. We don’t trust Obama on anything, including abortion rights and Supreme Court appointments.

    2. Democrats in the Senate better do what is necessary to protect choice. If they don’t do that, why vote for them? Democrats will control the Senate and we expect them to do their job and protect choice.

  • carbynew

    Look Norma,

    McCain is not Bush/Cheney!!!

    My aunt and uncle were Republicans in the MLK mode and they fought civil and human rights and was pro-life and believed in the Constitution and “we the people” Healthcare and other reforms

    But they didn’t believe in welfare without work…most AA’s believe this..they just want equal opportunities to be open to them.

    What the Dems did was to take us backwards to the bitterness that lives in the heart and many people of all ethnic groups and manipulated for power and personal ambitions.

    Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Jim Clyburn, Harry Reid and the rest of those LOSERS need to be KICKed to the CURB for what they did.

    Hillary is a LOYAL DEMOCRAT and a active Democratic Senator from New York she gave it 200% of her all…and I love her but after seeing that travesty of a ROLL CALL the fix was in, she was swift boated by her own Party. They took out the knifes and didn’t even what to give her the respect of showing her true delegate count.

    How you run your Campaign and covention tells me how you handle power and how you will Lead.

    NObama NOvember!!!!

  • Norma Desmond

    I have to work for a while folks, can’t be ALL play after Denver!

    Back later!

    XOXOXO

    GO HILLARY!

  • pm317

    Norma, we won’t lose Roe.

  • HillaryforTexas

    From another blog:

    For those members of the DNC who considered a fair accounting of the votes and unnecessary process, this one is for you.

    For those members of the press who out and out eviscerated Hillary Clinton, both for your own amusement and the talking points you worked off of, this one is for you.

    For those supers who left Hillary Clinton to sit by the wayside while you rushed to throw your support for the unqualified candidate, this one is for you.

    For those who had the voice and the opportunity to quell the viciousness of the MSM via their wholesale misogyny and chose to remain silent, this one is for you.

    For the turncoats and Judas’s who betrayed a couple who gave you a start and advance your resumes, this one if for you.

    For those black members of congress who promoted and perpetuated the ra*ce charges against the Clinton’s to be able to justify your support of Obama, this one is for you.

    For the women and members of the PUMA pac who watched as their voices were muted and their votes denied, this one is for you as well.

    For the Clinton’s who found themselves the victims of scurrilous attacks and outright lies, in some small measure this one is for you.

    And for every young woman who has ever been told to “wait your turn”, this one is for you.

  • debbie

    admin I just watched the Roy Orbison video, damn you just had to make me cry didn’t you.

    I think what the democratic party really didn’t understand was how they destroyed “hope” for so many women that have lived the struggle of oppresive and sexist attitudes. they destroyed the chance we had at the freedom to be ourselves in whatever capacity (no matter what we wear) without intimidation, discrimination, misogyny and violence.

    I am grateful the republican party noticed this yearning and has addressed it.

    I “hope” too they will recognize that the selection of Palin is only a baby step and that they are willing to work toward a platform that is more inclusive of all the American people.

    Powerful women are not a threat they are the answer.

  • Norma Desmond

    Carby

    I DO NOT ARGUE ALL YOUR POINTS

    But to just waft away roe and the rights it brings as Marie did in her statement above is knifing ourselves.

    As I said, this is the opportunity to hole ALL to account.

    And to rid the Dem Leadership once and for all of the far left luny fringe like Dean and Pelosi and the Great sOcialist

  • Norma Desmond

    I’ll be back

    I am a working class Dem 51 with no healthcare…..

    work calls!

    LOL

    Off to hunt a moose!

  • rgb44hrc

    VeepStakes:

    So we may yet have “a woman a heartbeat away from the presidency”… it’s just not from the party you’d expect.

    MO’s Dress:

    The dress: agreed, last night’s thing (I could only stand to watch like 3 minutes in the middle, but I saw photos) did look rather “frock-ish”. I’m no fashionista, but my wife’s exposed me to enough Project Runaway that I can have a slightly educated opinion. The pattern isn’t the issue, but like, there was nothing elegant about it.

    Let me guess: “My husband DummyFace doesn’t deserve me to be up here lookin’ fine. This is all he’s gettin’.”

    MO’s Mouth:

    Not, not the metaphorical mouth, about what she says…It’s that weird, pug nosed, jutting out the jaw thing, and with the lips pursed. It’s like she’s ready to fight at the drop of a hat.
    It reminds me of another unlikable fighter type: Edwin Meese, of the Reagan years, always had that same jutting-jaw, let’s-start-fighting face (and attitude).

    It’s not so much that she is physically unattractive, she isn’t; she’s ugly on the inside, and that always seeps out as an aura that mixes with the physical. Indeed, there are many people whose inner beauty outshines whatever imperfections they may have, and it just makes them that more interesting/ exotic/ fascinating. Michelle….is not one of them.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Hillary for Majority Leader and then President in 2012.

    Maybe the DNC can get that right.

  • Idunn

    No more using Roe v Wade like it’s a gun pointed at my head in a hostage situation. NO MORE!!!

    If this country even THINKS about overturning Roe v Wade, the women of this country will stage a revolt the likes of which they have NEVER seen!

    The democratic party doesn’t own me. In fact, they don’t even appear to even want me. So you know what…FUCK ‘EM!!!!!

  • Illinois Underground and kostner,

    Thank you for helping me understand Palin better. I am SOOOO glad that she vetoed a discrimination bill against gays by the Alaska Supreme Court — wait, the Supreme Court? Did you mean the Alaskan legislature, kostner?

  • carbynew

    Norma Desmond Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    Rights to pricacy, rights to our bodies, rights to no be beaten by our husbands.

    TOO MANY WOMEN HAVE DIED for this right, and to throw that away is INTOLERABLE especially for revenge. We MUST play smarter
    *****************************************************
    We are smarter!!!

    YES WE CAN vote for McCain/Palin ticket. I respect honesty and I respect a politican who does not pander to me…WE ARE AMERICAN and we have a diverse country.

    THE DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has LOST ALL CREDIBILITY and TRUST with me and I think with a lot of WOMEN. The Democrats is not the end all or be all of good ideas.

    The DEMOCRATS choose to jump off the clift and commit suicide with them ARROGANCE HEART by selecting KING Obama to tell us lowly peons what is best for us and turned their backs on our concerns.

  • henry

    Wow
    I was absolutely sick to my stomach hearing Arkansas give all of its delegates or at least the majority to waffles and then to watch Senator Clinton stop the roll call. I was angry. I had planned on voting for McCain anyhow and this makes it sooo much easier.
    The bots questionning a woman voting simply on the basis of gender. Hmmm? Isn’t that what a lot of AA’s did in the primary and they were not during the campaign victimized by racial attacks.

  • HillaryforTexas

    If the DNC has any sense, they will toss out all the Pelosis and Deans and Brazilles after their HUMILIATING loss, and start working HARD behind the scenes to SET UP 2012 as a run for Hillary. They will praise the Clinton years to high heaven evry chance they get for 4 years. The will make Hill the superstar of the party in preparation for her run.

    If they have a brain left in their heads, that is what they will do.

  • confloyd

    THe DNC when they announced the veep, that also said Hillary would NOT be in the cabinet, so they wanted us to know that they did not want Hillary anywhere near the cabinet and did not need us either, McCain is reaching out to us and I for one will be accepting.

  • rgb44hrc

    # admin Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Norma agreed. Abortion rights are important. The problem is Democrats think they can wave a red flag and the bulls will charge.

    1. We don’t trust Obama on anything, including abortion rights and Supreme Court appointments.

    2. Democrats in the Senate better do what is necessary to protect choice. If they don’t do that, why vote for them? Democrats will control the Senate and we expect them to do their job and protect choice.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Admin, you nailed it!

  • kostner

    mariaconz ,

    do some google search, I’m not so sure whether it’s legislature or supreme court.

    But she is definitely not that sort of wild-eyed wingnut. Yes, she’s pro life, and a social conservative, but she’s more interested in reform/economy etc.

  • rgb44hrc

    Idunn Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    No more using Roe v Wade like it’s a gun pointed at my head in a hostage situation. NO MORE!!!
    &&&&&&&&&

    I thought Hill & Bill gave great speeches, while in “hostage situations”. It’s up to the viewer to decipher for possible meanings. They said what they had to, given that the gun was pointed at them by the DNC/Obama captors offstage.

    “I feel their pain” (bitin’ my lower lip).

  • OkieAtty

    Been tied up with yard work and plumbers today. Just rewound the DVR and caught her speech. Wow.

    McCain chose a MILF and 👿 chose a gaffe.

    In one fell swoop, Palin just ripped the change mantle from :evil” ‘s cold, dead hands. Wow.

    And then the fumbled press release attacking experience and employing ageism? Put a fork in it. This turkey is done.

  • henry

    Wonder if the press will report on her out shooting hoops?

  • carbynew

    YES WE CAN vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin!!!

    It will be a pleasure to vote for a Republican for President for the first time in my life.

  • OkieAtty

    Kostner- she will play well in middle America demographics. Self-made, does what’s right regardless of party line, hot, obviously likes sex with her hubby (5 kids!), she rough and tumble and smart in a scary gut you kind of way that isn’t elitist or disapproving.

  • freckles

    This is another anniversary also

    In 1968, Repubs went for an outsider w/ little experience: Gov of Maryland Spiro Agnew.
    Dems picked safe, experienced Sen Muskie (good man, btw.

    In 1988, Repubs went for an outsider w/ little exp: Dan Quayle.
    Dems picked safe, experienced sen Lloyd Bentsen.

    In 2008 Repubs went for an outsider w/little exper.:
    Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska
    Dems picked safe, experienced Sen Joe Biden,

    The Republicans won the first two. History is now on their side.

    I love the fact that Sarah is bipartisan in a way most Repubs never are — except for McCain. Looks like he means that. Looks like he means reform too. And we have an energy expert.

    Advice to Sarah: Learn how a woman can use a mike. It’s not the same as a man and you can take the harsh sound out of it. Hillary did brilliantly. Ask her how.

    Nice to know that this opposer of gay marriage also gave gays their civil rights in Alaska (I heard). Put that up against the homophobic concert tour.

    She also seemed not have sought any of this. Put that up against the schemer since kindergarten.

    And, her husband IS a hunk. He also seems quite happy in the bg, taking care of the kids and being a fisherman/oil worker. Very cool. He’s also a union member. Put that up against “mad Michelle”.

    She backs up McC’s argument to stop the out of control spending. And energy independence.

    We’ll have to give up a strong pro-choice woman — and gun control — but we’ll still get a lot without having to bow to the messiah.

  • OkieAtty

    Henry, I hadn’t thought about the hoops thing, but I bet she could take Mr. Fancy Pants on the hardwood. (teehee I just wrote hardwood in referring to 👿 )

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today! I will support this McCain/Palin ticket wholeheartedly and know I’m doing it for Hillary and every woman out there who’s been mistreated and demonized unfairly. Bty, I am a 35 year old male, not a female. I just feel the way Hillary, who happened to be the most qualified democratic candidate, was treated by that idiot and the DNC was unforgivable. There is no way he gets by vote…that backstabbing, racist, sexist pig James Clyburn can go screw himself!!!!!!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Reactions on other blogs:

    sm77, on August 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm Said:
    She’s a basketball athlete & coach.
    She likes to hunt.
    She likes to fish.
    She has a 90% rating in Alaska.
    She was mayor of her town before becoming governor.
    She KICKED AZZ in the elction.
    Environmentalist.
    Not pro-abortion but says abortion is a personal CHOICE.
    Stood up to corrupt big-buck spenders in her own party.
    Tough as nails and loving mom
    HER HUSBAND IS A STAY AT HOME DAD

    This FEMINIST LIBERAL is very impressed.

  • kostner

    Bowyer: How Palin Will Help McCain

    It’s a big day for John McCain. It’s a big day for Sarah Palin. And it’s a big day for CNBC and Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s Kudlow & Company. The vast majority of mainstream media hovered like flies around Tim Romnlenty (or is it Mitt Pawmney?). This is about the biggest case of received-wisdom-wrong-again in my memory. A small number of big-time media outlets were talking about Palin, and probably none of them was further out ahead on this one than Kudlow. Guys, take a victory lap. I may take one myself.

    Now, what does it mean. It means that drill, drill, drill gets stronger. Sarah knows this stuff inside and out. She can back McCain in the defense of drilling, transporting and refining oil. She puts ANWR back on the map. Who knows it better than the governor of Alaska?

    The delegates may have been unified last night, but the party isn’t. Women feel dissed, and why shouldn’t they? They went majority for Hillary. She lost largely because the party threw out the Michigan and Florida votes (until Obama was a foregone conclusion).

    Forget this nonsense about how women are natural parts of the democratic party because it supports ‘equal pay’ for ‘comparable’ work. Women have become the emerging center of American entrepreneurship. They start business at twice the rate of men. I should know, I’m married to a brilliant lady entrepreneur (for whom I work). They know about capital gains taxes, and s-corporations. They sweat the details of payroll withholding taxes. They won’t be easy to fool into believing that a hike in the top tax bracket won’t really be a tax hike on entrepreneurs. (For more economic discussion, see video).

  • OkieAtty

    H4T, I’m way impressed. Kudos to Idunn.

    BTW is it me or does she look a bit like Tina Fey? If she can tell a joke, 👿 should just bow our now.

    I so loved her recognizing Gerry and Hillary and the suffrage anniversary.

  • carbynew

    sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today! I will support this McCain/Palin ticket wholeheartedly and know I’m doing it for Hillary and every woman out there who’s been mistreated and demonized unfairly. Bty, I am a 35 year old male, not a female. I just feel the way Hillary, who happened to be the most qualified democratic candidate, was treated by that idiot and the DNC was unforgivable. There is no way he gets by vote…that backstabbing, racist, sexist pig James Clyburn can go screw himself!!!!!!
    ******************************************************
    NOW, EMILY LIST and the rest of those WEAK AZZ women groups better STEP UP!!!

  • henry

    Okie
    she plays hockey as well.

  • abigirltx

    McCain just won the presidency, when historians write this story in future, the 2008 election was won on August 29, 2008!!!

    A brilliant, bold move. The Democrats are losers. If not for the Clintons they would not have had a 2-time president in 40 years, and even then out of 11 elections, Democrats have won only 3, bunch of losers, I am so MAD. I am so happy with the Palin pick, she even spoke respectfully of Hillary and Ferraro.

    Obama is toast. Now I know the reason for McCain’s Ad yesterday when he congratulated Obama. McC is a chess master… CHECK.

    McCain / Palin 2008
    Hillary 2012 !!! PERIOD.

    Hillary warned them, we did also, the Pelosi/Dean/Brazile think they are strategist (not), what a bunch of morons. Today is a bitter sweet day for me, McCain is going to be our next president, I wanted it so badly for my Hillary. But guess what, I can wait 4 more years.

    XOXO Ever. Too dangerous for America. He is an egomaniac, I am glad he had his moment in the spotlight yesterday at the Rose garden replica, he will never live in the white house. I own my vote.

    Country before race, before gender. Hillary is the better choice, DNC killed all our dreams in 2008. We will pay them back in 2008, and help Hillary win in 2012.

    PS: This Obama guy would have had a chance at winning if he chose Hillary, but he blew it. Afterall he is Obamamessiah ask MSNBC and CNN, they will confirm it LOL.

  • HillaryforTexas

    As for the clueless DNC and their Supastar Preznet Shiznit-in-waiting, I suspect at this point they do not know whether “to scratch their watch or wind their butt” (Steel Magnolias).

  • CountTheVotes

    Donna Brazile can eat sh*t now that she’s told us to stay home. HAHA. This is making me get off my ass and vote McCain/Palin.

    The Democrats are the party of women-hating idiots. Oh, and ageists.

  • henry

    and homophobic when it is politically expedient

  • freckles

    I DO think that this is a blow to Hillary’s chances. If Obama wins, they’ll say that Palin lost it for McC.
    If McC wins, Sarah will have a huge advantage.

    There’s a female Obama clod on TV SLAMMING Sarah because “she’s not ready and can’t get ready in 60 days blah blah blah”.

    Once again, Obama logic prevails. “It is DANGEROUS to have a VP with little experience.” It is OK however to have a pres with much less.

    My advice to Obamans: Never ever say the word ‘experience’ again. Ever. It is not your strong point. Remember “it’s judgment not experience that counts”? Look who you picked. Look at her judgment.

    What frosts you is that you can’t link her to Bush and she is now “change we can REALLY believe in”.

  • Illinois Underground

    sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party.
    * * * * * * * * * *
    Evidently, the Democratic? party is being run by the Children of the Corn.

    Carby, agreed. I repeat my post from above: next steps – strongly worded letters to NOW and Emily’s List. We will not tolerate sexist language about ANY woman. (Even MEchelle, who wholeheartedly participated.)

  • OkieAtty

    If Palin were a guy, I’d feel good about this choice, too. It’s not that she shares my gender, it’s she independent in the way most Americans are.

    My former party has fucked itself in the ass. It has shown itself to be petty, small-minded and driven by ego-centrist males. Donna Brazile included (did you see that jacket last night???). That funeral last night was an embarrassment. A waste of money for the glorification of one man and it was eerie how much it looked like Nazi Germany.

    I want my country back, if I can’t get it through Hillary in ’08, I won’t mind a couple of babysitters until 2012. At least with McCain and Palin I know they would be good caretakers and wouldn’t sell us down the river.

  • CountTheVotes

    sotonightthatimightsee Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today!
    *****
    If they keep doing this, the Obama party is going to cause the Democratic party to lose women for good – even the porn stars.

  • birdgal

    CountTheVotes Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
    Donna Brazile can eat sh*t now that she’s told us to stay home. HAHA. This is making me get off my ass and vote McCain/Palin.

    The Democrats are the party of women-hating idiots. Oh, and ageists.

    ———————————————————————————————

    Ditto. Brazile can eat sh**, and so can the rest of the DNC “leadership.” The have taken a democratic year, and given it away to the Republicans, because of their jealousy, spitefulness, and corruption. Yes, McCain/Palin is a conservative ticket, but a democratic congress will help to temper the most conservative issues. I have always been against drilling, but the energy crisis is real, and McCain is interested in alternative energy, as well as drilling.

  • freckles

    H4T:

    “Supastar Preznet Shiznit-in-waiting” is priceless!

    Now let’s pray that Gustav stays away long enough to let us hear the grown-ups talk.

  • hawk

    I am so happy about this. I feel 100% comfortable voting for McCain/Palin. Awesome choice by John McCain. Very intelligent and strategic. I think if they try and say this takes inexperience off the table, Sarah should just say, well can I talk about hope and unity and change like your inexperienced candidate for PRESIDENT not VP?

    Great news. This makes my day, along with my new job and going home for a visit, this has been an awesome day. This definitely puts Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, and so many other states that were close into McCain’s corner for sure :)

  • CountTheVotes

    # henry Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    and homophobic when it is politically expedient

    *****
    Yup. Let me rephrase. the Democratic party is the party of misogynists, ageists and homophobes – politically expedient or not, these are their true colors now.

  • hawk

    4 years till President Clinton, don’t worry gals and guys :)

  • obama is and always has been dismissive of women, just look at his political history to see that. From his election to the IL senate having Alice thrown off the ballot and the way he treated Hillary during the debates shows he has a problem with women, maybe he blames his mother for daddy dearest heading for the hills.

    I can see Obama/Biden making the same mistake that the Dukakis/Benson ticket did, laughing at the selection of Quayle thinking they had it in the bag and getting their asses kicked in November.

  • henry

    So lets see waffles starte out in Iowa with 99 problems but apparently Senator Clinton was not one of them, so how many do you think he has now.

  • Illinois Underground

    I’ve always liked McCain – I remember telling my rabidly Republican mother four and eight years ago that I would consider voting for a Rep if it was, for example, John McCain. McCain is no Bush.

    I’m as passionate about fiscal restraint and reform issues as I am about education and civil rights. (I’m actually a woman without party.) Anyway, it will be fun to watch the Dem congress suck it up while McCain gets a few things done that we like and takes authentic ownership of the good government stuff.

  • rgb44hrc

    Inexperience:

    Obama and surrogates ripping at Palin’s “inexperience”. Granted, she’s young, and does not have McCain-like nor Biden-like “seasoning”.

    a) Her number of years experience is almost as much as Obama’s (in the Big Leagues), but she’s the veep. Obama’ s the lightweight running for the top spot.

    b) Do we have to sit them down and slowly explain that Governor is a bigger better job than Senator? It’s an “executive” position. Her two years as guv give her more executive experience than Obama’s and Biden’s years combined. Heh, heh.

    Come to think of, after Obama loses, look for him to start an exploratory committee to run for Gov. of Illinois, so that he could try again in 4 or 8 years. We’ll be waiting for him then, too.

  • mp

    NORMA DESMOND:

    I OWN MY VOTE!

    you are being little irritating today.

    My agenda – as it hs always been from day 1 – national security and economy.

    Hillary had both.
    John McCain hs nat. security
    Obama – none.

    There you have it.

    Biden has more experience than BO; McCain has more than Palin.

    I would vote BIDEN/bo over McCain/Palin.

    BUT I WILL NOT VOTE BO/biden over McCain/Palin.
    Simple and easy.

    The party agenda you are pushing for is irrelevalnt for me; The only thing I needed was courage; john showed it today.

  • kostner

    Sarah Palin’s Introduced
    29 Aug 2008 12:46 pm

    She is a very effective stump speaker, spunky and upbeat, and her first try at a persuasive argument on John McCain’s behalf succeeded. She looks and sounds very different than he does. That’s a plus. On the other hand, she talked about change, not experience. And we live, as John McCain reminds us, in a time of war.

  • kostner

    Dems: McCain’s Age Is “Fair Game”
    29 Aug 2008 02:11 pm

    I get the sense that John McCain’ age is now fair game for Democrats. Democrats feel that McCain’s Palin pick has given them the green light to use phrases like “a heartbeat away” in their press releases and reactions.

    McCain’s proximity to death and her proximity to him justify the attention that will be drawn to McCain’s age, in this view.

    Watch the number of press releases that mention McCain’s birthday and/or contain “heartbeat”-type phrases in them.

  • Illinois Underground

    rgb44hrc: perhaps if you talk really S-L-O-W-L-Y they might get the fact that inexperience is not a good argument for them.

    Ugh. BO better not run for governor. Anyway, he’ll join a long list of Dem machine pols who are exploring ahead of him: Bill Daley (yes, I know), Lisa Madigan, God knows who else. IL state government is so messed up right now, it’s hard to know what might happen. IL went undivided Blue because their Combine leader went to jail, the rest of the party was taken over by the right-wingnuts, so they have have no sane electable people in the pipeline. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is the primordial ooze from which BO has emerged.

  • filbertsf

    is Palin anti-choice? not that it matters but I’d like to know.

  • debbie

    I can’t wait to wear a Palin t-shirt!!!!

  • Illinois Underground

    Kostner, their circular logic is getting me dizzy.

  • filbertsf

    Palin is too conservative for me. Another freeper, Thatcher-like woman I spoke about a few days ago.

    What was wrong with Romney? He was at least moderate on social issues which would encourage people like me to vote for the old man.

  • hawk

    outiniowa.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin/

  • pm317

    # OkieAtty Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Kostner- she will play well in middle America demographics. Self-made, does what’s right regardless of party line, hot, obviously likes sex with her hubby (5 kids!), she rough and tumble and smart in a scary gut you kind of way that isn’t elitist or disapproving.
    ———————

    Have you seen the hubby? :)

  • henry

    With Halloween so close to the GE maybe I’ll put up a tombstone
    RIP Democratic Party next to my McCain/Palin sign with likenesses of Brazille/Kerry?kennedy and Pelosi. Do you think that wouild be to scary for the kids?

  • filbertsf

    how can you guys be happy with this selection? she’s a freeper. wanted to take polar bears off endangered list. pro-corporate, pro-drilling; probably denies global warming.

    This election is just getting worse and worse.

  • filbertsf

    goddamn GOP women…

  • HillaryforTexas

    Get the popcorn, guys – this is going to be fun!

    McCain camp pushes back: More qualified than ObamaMcCain aide Jill Hazelbaker:

    It is pretty audacious for the Obama campaign to say that Governor Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. She has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for president.

  • henry

    Nothing in my opinion could be worse than waffles

  • sotonightthatimightsee

    kostner

    I get the sense that John McCain’ age is now fair game for Democrats. Democrats feel that McCain’s Palin pick has given them the green light to use phrases like “a heartbeat away”

    I have to respectfully disagree with your comment. If the crazy left-wing nuts who support Obafraud and the thugs over at the DNC want to throw age around, then Biden is only 7 years younger than McCain- so I don’t think that’s gonna fly! If they wanna talk about Palin being too young and inexperience, then they’re gonna have to explain how they can support someone with the same characteristics as in the case of Obambi. You see, they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. McCain must have anticipated this and made his move accordingly. John McCan has managed to outsmartand outmaneuver the entire Washington and political establishment…I LOVE IT!

  • kostner

    Barbara Boxer on Sarah Palin: A harsh attack
    LA Times ^ | 8/29/08 | Barbara Boxer

    Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 2:58:50 PM by DallasBiff

    The vice president is a heartbeat away from becoming president, so to choose someone with not one hour’s worth of experience on national issues is a dangerous choice.

    If John McCain thought that choosing Sarah Palin would attract Hillary Clinton voters, he is badly mistaken.

    The only similarity between her and Hillary Clinton is that they are both women. On the issues, they could not be further apart.

    Sen. McCain had so many other options if he wanted to put a woman on his ticket, such as Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe -– they would have been an appropriate choice compared to this dangerous choice.

    In addition, Sarah Palin is under investigation by the Alaska state legislature, which makes this more incomprehensible

  • debbie

    filbertsf

    your comments seem like you are pushing the Obama ticket? are you?

  • henry

    For Halloween I think I will put up a fake tombstone with
    RIP the democratic party surrounded by the likeness of brazille/kerry/Pelosi- maybe too scary for the kids?

  • henry

    some of my comments without links are not going through. HMMM?

  • filbertsf

    debbie, god no. but I still have the right to criticize the GOP, McCain, and that idiot Palin.

    I will never and can never be a Republican. I’m only voting for McCain b/c I want to leave the door open for Hillary. Trust me, I’m setting aside many of my hardcore political beliefs for HRC. It’s not making a very happy camper.

  • HillaryforTexas

    filbert, GOP women are not monolithic, any more than Dem women are. Palin has some issues I disagree with, but she has done a LOT to combat corruption and the “good old boys club” of her own party.

    Is she Hillary? Not by a mile. Not by a MILLION miles. But I am happy with this on 3 levels

    1) It’s a woman (yes, it MATTERS to me, and I will not apologize for that

    2) She is not part of the good ol Bush machine – she is a TOTAL outsider. That is a strong signal that McCain is returning to his maverick roots of 2000 and before, and trying to pull his party away from the powerbrokers of the last 8 years. That is not as good as a true Democrat, but it is still a GOOD thing for him to do.

    3) She is a very smart pick for McCain, which means Bambi is going down. And that is the BIG one for me. HILLARY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

  • Berkeley Vox

    Brilliant push-back by the McCain camp, to point out Palin’s track record as governor vs Obama’s track record as Senator. Palin wins by a mile

  • debbie

    I respect that, but don’t share your view of GOP women. My hats off to many of them as they have fought hard to break their own glass ceiling in the republican party.

    As far as Palin being an idiot? Compare her to BHO then tell me who the real idiot is.

  • filbertsf

    nevermind. i don’t care anymore.

  • meiyingsu

    filbertsf,

    country first.

  • neetabug

    I will be wearing my Hillary button at McCain rally here in Ohio also

  • turndownobama-com

    Norma Desmond Says:
    And here is another thought. If McCain wins, there is a chance that Palin and HRC could be BOTH running in 2012, and THAT would be a FABULOUS THING for the advancement of American Women and women around the world.

    Well done McCain.
    ===================

    Oooh, right, you and admin looking at 2012! Was it Evita who said “I will return, and I will be millions”?

  • birdgal

    picture of the Palin family on The Confluence:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

  • mp

    I love Sarah Palin!!!! :)
    And I love hillary!!!

    Go girls!…

  • moononpluto

    She reminds me of President Mac in Commander in Chief, she really does, balls and brassy.

  • OkieAtty

    Alright. We all knew this would happen but an atty buddy of mine posted this on the private bar site: http://www.vpilf.com/ .

  • moononpluto

    Its hilarious Bambi and Michelle must have wrecked the tv when they heard the news, he completely wiped out bambi’s convention.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Obama campaign is already flummoxed by the Palin announcement:

    ———–
    Palin tough target for Obama to hit
    By: Lisa Lerer and Tim Grieve
    August 29, 2008 03:22 PM EST
    politico.com

    John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate presents the Obama-Biden campaign with an unwelcome and unexpected challenge: How do you go after a 44-year-old mother of five without once alienating the female voters you’ve just spent the last week trying to win back?

    The answer so far: Not very well.

    Minutes after the McCain campaign confirmed that Palin would be the Republican’s VP pick, Obama spokesman Bill Burton dismissed the Alasaka governor as a lightweight.

    McCain, he said, had put “the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.”

    Almost immediately, the campaign seemed to reconsider its tough-guy approach.

    In a statement distributed by the campaign, Barack Obama and Joe Biden said Palin’s selection was “yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward, Gov. Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign.”

    By contrast, EMILY’s List president Ellen Malcolm tried to walk a fine line — making the point that, because a candidate is a woman, it doesn’t necessarily follow that the candidate represents women’s views.

    “McCain clearly sees the power of women voters in this election but has just as clearly failed to support any of the issues that they care about,” Malcolm said in a statement. “His choice for vice president only reinforces that failure.”

    Throughout the Democratic primary, the Obama campaign and its supporters faced charges of sexism from Clinton’s campaign and some of her supporters. After an early Democratic debate, a Clinton adviser complained to The Washington Post that it was “six guys against her.” The campaign itself complained that the “politics of hope” and been replaced by the “politics of pile-on.”

    Many of Clinton’s supporters continue to believe that sexism played a large role in her defeat.

    For her part, Palin made an explicit play for Clinton’s supporters at a rally in Dayton on Friday.

    “It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest hardest class ceiling in America,” she said. “But it turns out that the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.”

    Then again, Palin hasn’t always viewed Clinton so kindly. At a 2007 forum, she said in response to a question about Clinton’s treatment in the press, “Any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism. … I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good, women in politics, women in general, wanting to progress this country.”

  • OkieAtty

    # henry Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    So lets see waffles starte out in Iowa with 99 problems but apparently Senator Clinton was not one of them, so how many do you think he has now.

    18 million?

  • HillaryforTexas

    The bots are infesting the blogs with wails of concern for us poor wimmins being taken in by McCain picking a woman. They are saying that the Dem party is the one who just loooooooves women, and how can we not see that? Nevrmind that they have stomped on women for months. Never mind that Obama thinks we should have our heads examined before getting an abortion, to make sure it’s not just because we are feeling blue.

    ROTFLMAO!!! I am SO laughing my ass of that now, NOW, FINALLY the Obots are suddenly so very concerned about womens issues. They are dripping sincerity. Just dripping in it.

    And they have the audacity to couple their newfound concern for women with telling us that McCain picking Palin is just a cynical political ploy….

    Like I can’t recognize that their sudden love of wimmins is THEIR cynical political ploy.

    Oh, sweet irony, I am going to piss my old biddy pants….

  • moononpluto

    The Democrats must be thinking why the fuck did we not go with Hillary.

  • Emjay

    May I politely point out that Gov Palin has probably spent more time talking to Russians than BO has…Alaska is in constant communication with their “close neighbors” re fishing rights, weather emergencies (they rescue each other’s fishermen and women) and shipping/restocking/refueling stops at each other’s ports.

    Both Burton and Boxer would be wise to do some more homework before shooting off their mouths. Course that goes for all politicians (and people in general) who react to fear without being prepared.

  • moononpluto

    The Obama campaign just ordered a massive amount of Immodium. Hmmm…

    Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.

    Folks, the Obama campaign is DESPERATE! They are already going negative! LOL! WTF, Obama! You are old news!

    Yes but Bambi she made a success of that town, yours froze to death in tenements run by your felon friend Rezko, right back at ya.

  • filbertsf

    Emily’s List will not support Palin b/c I think they only support pro-choice women. Palin might as well be a man.

  • Berkeley Vox

    “Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.”

    ——–

    when you’re already alienating rural swing-state voters in droves, this is NOT the thing to say, lol!

  • moononpluto

    The videos of Palin out with the troops in Iraq are helping enormously.

    See Bambi, you visit troops not go for a spa.

  • rgb44hrc

    Team Obama’s Good-Cop, Bad-Cop Routine:

    As usual, Waffles doesn’t get caught saying the nasty undercutting stuff.

    Good Cop: “The campaign”, on Waffles’ behalf, puts out:

    “We send our congratulations to Gov. Palin and her family…blah blah nicey nice crapola air-kiss”.

    Bad Cop: According to AP:

    Earlier, Obama spokesman Bill Burton blasted the choice and highlighted Palin’s lack of foreign policy experience. “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency”.

    &&&&
    Hmmm, compound sentence leads to lack of clarity. Did the town of 9,000 people lack foreign policy experience?

    So her lack of foreign policy experience as Veep is certain Doom.
    Barky’s lack of foreign policy experience as Prez doesn’t matter???????

    Oh, I forgot, he lived in many places, and was born in many countries.

  • moononpluto

    The Palin hubby is pure prime American beef, easy eye candy.

  • confloyd

    I just read somewhere that as the media and the Obama campaign tries to smear and demean Palin, all the republicans come out and defend her.

    Maybe that is what they should have done, instead of cheating her out of her nomination. Let me be clear Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and that means more Americans wanted her than they did him, so in my book she was the winner.

    The DNC will be punished from top to bottom for this theft of the nomination. I hope that Hillary tells them to shove it where the sun does not shine if they want her to campaign for him!!

    If you ever become weak, just watch her as she is pushed down the aisle to essentially give the fraud the nomination. I would not be surprised if they did not have Chelsea in a room with a gun pointed at her! WE CAN NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!

    Was it Evita that said ” I will be back and this time we will be in the millions”, be very afraid Coward!!

  • Berkeley Vox

    Palin is a perfect choice because she cannot be attacked. If the Obama campaign tries to attack her for lack of experience, then all of a sudden, “experience” becomes a big issue in the campaign. The Obama campaign is so idiotic that they don’t even realize this yet, lol

  • confloyd

    Moon, your hormones are showing again!! LOL!!

  • moononpluto

    Lets face it, who would we rather watch,

    1 Palin and that gorgeous husband
    2 Huckabee and his frumpy wife.
    3 Romney and his wife

    I suddenly just got fired up for this election now.

  • OkieAtty

    If she weren’t a good pick, they would not be falling all over themselves to go on the attack.

    They are scared McCain just picked off a considerable amount of the women’s vote- in fact, I think he has.

    Let’s go further. Kos- you still here??? Let’s talk swing states in the Midwest where she’ll play really, really well and 👿 was already struggling…

    OH?
    PA?
    WI?
    MI?
    MN?
    IN?

    I’d even toss in TX and FL as the last results in TX were within 10. Palin will play very well with women there and rural men and will cancel out the AA vote from Houston and Dallas. Net result- TX firmly McCain.

    FL? I’d agree with it there, too. FL I see McCain by 5-7 points in November.

  • meiyingsu

    Berkeley Vox,

    BHO camp cannot attack her on experience, cannot attack her on sexism, cannot attack on her outsider.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I am in TX. TX just went McCain by a mile. We LOVE strong gun-toting hunting fishing women in TX. :)

  • filbertsf

    You guys remember how Al Gore was instrumental with environmental policies? Palin has close ties with oil giants, wonder how that will play out?

    am I the only one who has reservations about Palin or is it a consensus here that she’s a good choice?

  • Berkeley Vox

    The more I read, the more I think, god, Obama reallly IS toast. There’s just no way. None of the electoral math adds up for him.

    Time for all of us to clear everything off our calendars for 2011/12!

  • rgb44hrc

    Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    “Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.”
    &&&&&&&&

    Hmmm, let’s compare

    being Mayor of 9,000 people, again, executive experience
    versus
    a much more populous area where he did nothing (voting “present”?) except ready himself to run for higher office.

    And as soon as he won his seat as Senatore, he did not, except ready himself to run for higher office.

    No Thanks. NObama.

  • kostner

    Palin Selection Surprised Her Staff, Too
    By Michael D. Shear
    Reporters weren’t the only ones surprised by Sen. John McCain’s choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

    Her press secretary was just as clueless.

    Bill McAllster, a veteran political reporter who recently became her spokesman, said his home phone in Alaska starting ringing long before dawn after reporters gave up on his Blackberry, which he had turned off.

    “I found out at about 5:20 this morning. I thought maybe they got it wrong,” he said. “But as the messages piled up it looked like it was more serious.”

    McAllister said Palin had given some documents to GOP convention officials since she was scheduled to speak at the RNC. But he said he had no idea there was any serious conversations between his boss and McCain.

    Palin first met McCain in March, McAllister said, when she was in Washington and requested a meeting with McCain about oil drilling in Alaska. McAllister said Palin later talked to McCain for five minutes by phone last Sunday, while she was at the Alaska state fair.

    “She made no mention of the vice presidency at the time,” McAllister said.

    McAllister called Palin “the most phenomenal figure” he has ever seen. He explained that she is “the most ordinary and extraordinary” person. As an example, he said that when a local news director for a television station retired, she drove herself and her two-month-old baby to the barbecue going away party with no security team.

    “She just showed up,” he said. “She has a real common touch. At the same time … she is made of steel when she has to be tough.”

    He said Palin stood up to the oil industry in her state, campaigning in 2006 for a take it or leave it approach to negotiations with oil companies, something that those companies fiercely opposed.

  • mj

    Fil, of course she has ties with oil, she’s the governor of fricken Alaska. However, she has a good enviro record, and raised taxes on the oil companies. i think it’s the absolute best choice for McCain. He’s a republican, not a democrat. Further, Biden has huge ties with the credit card companies, which frankly are making working americans nothing more than indentured servents.

  • moononpluto

    filbert, she took on the oil companies and beat them.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Filbert, I don’t agree with her politics, and I don’t think she’s experienced enough to make a good President if she had to step in suddenly, but she is a reformer and wants to modernize the GOP, as McCain does.

    From a purely tactical standpoint, it’s a great pick by McCain. It was a tactical pick. Obama’s pick wasn’t nearly as tactical — he just likes Biden and thinks he’d make a good President if need be, and by the way, he’s got some foreign policy experience and makes a good attack dog.

    It will be interesting to see of Palin adopts the usual VP stance, which is to be the lead attacker against the opponent’s Presidential candidate. My hunch is that she’ll be tough, but they won’t use her in that way. The attacks against Obama will come from surrogates and the underground, not McCain nor Palin.

  • OkieAtty

    Filbert, do what you want to do. I’ve said it a million times and I damn well mean it:

    Hillary in Denver or McCain in November.

    This choice just got a lot easier. And for those who bring up Roe, fuck them. In the ass. If women and women’s issues meant so damn much to the Dem party they wouldn’t have gang raped Hillary for the last 19 months.

    Women and their issues don’t mean shit to Dems and probably even less to many in the GOP, but there are those in the GOP who are traditional conservatives to whom right wing social conservatism means squat. I think Palin is part of that. Even though she is personally pro-life, I’ve read elsewhere that she believes government should stay out of it- the very essence of the traditional conservative view. I can live with that until 2012. I’ve been patient this damn long.

  • kostner

    filbertsf,

    I respect your opinion. But for me, as a man, I always admire woman politician with gutsy, intelligence, toughness. That’s the first criteria I want in a president.

    I admire Thatcher, and I wound’t support Hillary if I believe she’s just a typical Nancy Pelosi type feminist with no inner toughness. I doubt I will support any of the current democratic women candidates. Most of them are just not tough enough to be commnder in chief.

    Sarah Palin is in the same mold of Hillary, character wise… This is the first thing I’d consider …

  • moononpluto

    I think Obama just lost every red state, theres no way he’ll win there now.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Let me explain something about why I hold Obama and the DNC to a higher standard than the Republicans when it comes to womens issues:

    See, it’s sort of like when a dog continually lifts his leg and pisses on the corner of the couch, I get upset. But if my boyfriend does it, I get MUCH more upset. I am frankly disgusted and revulsed when he pisses all over my couch.
    If it continues happening, then given the choice, I might just keep the dog if there are no real alternatives. But the boyfriend is GONE.

    GONE, baby.

  • filbertsf

    OkieAtty, I’m no wobbler when it comes to Hillary 2012. I know what I have to do and that is that.

    It’s just 4 years is a long time to have to look at McCain/Palin. Ugh.

    I’m just thinking out loud.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I cannot wait until HRC and WJC take over the collasped DNC.

  • birdgal

    filberts: she has taken the oil companies on, and introduced ethics reform.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Agreed moononpluto. Palin’s Alaska/wild west frontier biography will clinch Montana and Wyoming and Alaska, and all those smaller red states that Obama keeps insisting he can win. And it helps McCain a lot in New Mexico and Nevada, two swing states that are must-wins for Obama.

  • rgb44hrc

    # filbertsf Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Emily’s List will not support Palin b/c I think they only support pro-choice women. Palin might as well be a man.
    &&&&&&&&

    I don’t recall Emily’s List being very effective or vocal on Hillary’s behalf. If I am wrong, please inform me.
    I recall NARAL totally selling out (well, headquarters in DC did, without informing the state-based entities.
    Might someone know how much NOW was for Hillary?

    I just remember there being a strange hollow sound coming from women’s groups during the primary, like there was some secret deal to support Obama, and the savior would make it worth their while.

    Yet while the leadership of those groups were acting strange, it was the feet on the ground types who worked hard and were extremely vocal in defending Hillary.

  • kostner

    Palin Facts–Her nickname as a member of Wasilla’s high school basketball team was “Sarah Barracuda;” she is known to be deeply competitive.

    –She was born in Idaho.

    –She and her husband own a float plane.

    –Her father taught elementary school.

    –She and her father often went rabbit and moose hunting.

    –She enjoys mooseburgers.

    –She is very athletic (she hunts, fishes, snowmobiles, and runs marathons). As she has said, “I had a great upbringing under Title IX. I can’t imagine where I’d be without the opportunities provided to me in sports. Sports taught me that gender isn’t an issue; in fact, when people talk about me being the first female governor, I’m a little absent from that discussion, because I’ve never thought of gender as an issue. In sports, you learn self-discipline, healthy competition, to be gracious in victory and defeat, and the importance of being part of a team and understanding what part you play on that team. You all work together to reach a goal.”

    –She placed third in the women’s 40-49 age group in the 2006 Running with the Bulls 5-K race in Palmer. Of her result, she said, “I was so embarrassed when they posted my time because I knew I was going to get a ribbing from a lot of people.

    –She is very adept at juggling work and family. When daughter Piper was born during her Wasilla mayoralty, she returned to the office the following day. A trim runner, she did not announce news of her most recent pregnancy (with Trig, born April 18) until her seventh month. According to Palin, “To any critics who say a woman can’t think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I’d just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.” Her older children are Track, Bristol, and Willow.

    –She and husband Todd couple celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary on August 29, the day her veep selection was announced.

  • Idunn

    HRC might actually have given McCain a run for his money here in TN. With Obama at the top of the ticket, and not even trying to make a play for TN…it’s solidly red no matter what McCain does.

  • OkieAtty

    Filbert, one reason I want McCain to win now that the farce that was Denver is over is because I want the DNC leadership upended. I want Howie gone, burned in effigy. I want Brazile exiled to Pluto or some cold as shit planet with no hope to ever return (well not unless Hillary and I both get a personal stock of Kryptonite or something).

    If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.

    Sometimes you have to burn the field before you can get a good harvest.

  • moononpluto

    I had a feeling for a long time that if a woman was going to be elected VP or Pres, it was going to be a republican one first, if they had the balls to pick one, strong and confident. When i saw the way Hillary was treated, i knew the Dems were not capable.

    It seems the Dems lost their way on this but my god have times changed. McCain just dragged the republicans into the 21st century, it will do them good, they needed this.

  • rgb44hrc

    filbertsf Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    OkieAtty, I’m no wobbler when it comes to Hillary 2012. I know what I have to do and that is that. It’s just 4 years is a long time to have to look at McCain/Palin. Ugh.
    &&&&&&

    It will feel a lot longer if BO-biden wins.
    And who will stand up to Russia?

  • moononpluto

    I’d elect her just for that quote

    “To any critics who say a woman can’t think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I’d just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.”

    What a woman

  • NewMexicoFan

    A few years ago, I saw HRC interview with all of the Dem women leaders at the time. At the end of it, they discussed quickly about women and specifically HRC running for President. I felt that the women in that group would not support HRC.

    I saw few if any of that group support her in 2008. The women’s group did not support her in 2008. What we saw were these groups being in some cases jealous, and playing the game with the boys.

    They lost. If women don’t stick together, they will not get anywhere.

    However, I have see people on this site, and other organizations stand up for HRC, and it is those that I salute today.

    We helped put the cracks in the ceiling, and it is our rebellion that has placed Gov Sara Palin in a history making position.

  • rgb44hrc

    Okie’s right. If Obama wins, Pelosi Dean Brazile etc. will be in charge forever, for their eternal wisdom in picking Obama over Hillary.

    Hillary will be forced to eat celery in a closet (old Doonesbury joke).

  • debbie

    lets get past this idea that she is not ready to step into the shoes of John McCain should something happen

    should she need to, as every President has they select people around them that are experts

    BHO is weak on national security too he..selected Biden to shore up that weakness…are you guys saying she’s too stupid to do the same…not likely, she is savy she is an executive, I believe she has the smarts to handle the job if need be.

    as for her pro life position, “if” the dems maintain control of congress AND THEY DO THEIR JOB don’t expect them to allow any judge get passed them that would overturn Roe v Wade once again IF THEY DO THEIR JOB. Of course there is Biden that voted to approve Clarence Thomas…don’t forget that one!

  • OkieAtty

    NMF, we were just there for the ride. Hillary did it. I am sorry she won’t be there this year, but she will be in 2012.

  • moononpluto

    Its weird, its almost as if the republican ticket is acting like the Dem ticket and the Dem ticket is acting like the republican one.

    How weird and fucked up is that

  • NewMexicoFan

    Too bad we don’t have a spy in the O camp right now. I would love to be a fly on the wall.

    I am also waiting for the next poll.

  • OkieAtty

    rgb, tell my hubby I’m right. He’s being an asshole today. :(

  • moononpluto

    Ok Guys heres the mantra to hit trolls with

    Palin started her political career in a small town, Obama from the house of a domestic terrorist. Whats that again? I can’t hear you.

  • Idunn

    One thing I’m sure of…Republicans won’t let Sarah get trashed the way Democrats let Hillary get trashed.

    You can COUNT on that.

  • OkieAtty

    Moon, I thought that, too, while watching Palin’s speech. I think it’s bc she’s a reform minded moderate and that appeals to many of us traditional Dems.

  • kostner

    moononpluto ,

    I agree with you 100%. The first woman president may well come from the Republican party. I think the reason is simple, democratic party is always deemed as weak on defense, weak on everything… I doubt voters will elect a woman from the democratic party to the prediency unless they’re absolutely sure that woman is TOUGHER than men.

    Hillary is tougher than men, unfortunately, democratic party is too weak to select a tough woman to anchor their fate. .

  • moononpluto

    I’d pay to see Michelle Obama’s face about now.

    I can her scowling “not another bitch to deal with” Her face must be tripping her, the swear level must be high.

  • pm317

    We helped put the cracks in the ceiling, and it is our rebellion that has placed Gov Sara Palin in a history making position.

    NMF, it is our rebellion and DNC’s shameful stupidity and the SDs cowardice.

  • NewMexicoFan

    As of 2 p.m. today, Gustav has changed in two ways: 1 it will go over more land when it hits Cuba, and 2 is now shifted a little more back to the east, which mean closer to New Orleans, with the north east wall of the hurricane hitting it. This is the strongest side of the hurricane.

    O has already said he will party while American’s are in danger.

    This is playing out almost like someone higher than us is directing it.

  • filbertsf

    rgb44hrc, Emily’s List was very supportive of Hillary. You can’t take that away from them. She probably won NH b/c of their hard work and lobbying.

    mj, you were in NH, am I right?

  • moononpluto

    Has anyone heard Obama’s speech mentioned today, all i’ve heard in pins dropping.

    No one can remember anything he said now, i asked some people and they said, “i’ve forgotten, but this Palin woman looks cool”.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Sorry WILL NOT PARTY i SHOULD PROOF BETTER.

  • NewMexicoFan

    i ALSO MEAN MCCAIN SAID HE WOULD NOT PARTY. tHIS IS GETTING BAD. SORRY

  • mj

    Yes, NH. Emily’s List was Hill’s biggest bundler, but they got played by McCaskill. They bankrolled her campaign and then she had the audacity to say she did it all by herself, no help.

  • oklahomahills

    # moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Its hilarious Bambi and Michelle must have wrecked the tv when they heard the news, he completely wiped out bambi’s convention.
    **************************
    I agree!!!!

    admin, you are amazing. Don’t stop!

  • Berkeley Vox

    I can’t wait to see Monday morning’s daily tracking polls, after the population has absorbed the Dem convention and the Palin announcement. I don’t think Bambi will have much of a lead!

  • Emjay

    birdgal & others

    iirc, on that most painful Saturday, Hillary said “because of YOU, there are 18 million cracks in ….”

    She did not say, “because of ME……”

    btw, the Friday evening BBC is all over The Palin choice, her demeanor, he words, and the fabulous reception of her….

    The Brits may come to like us, once again.

  • confloyd

    Jack Caverty needs to just come on out with it, he hates women. He needs to get his clock cleaned by women!

  • CountTheVotes

    I was just talking to a friend:

    One of McCain’s strategies will be blunt the force of the Clintons coming out to campaign for the Fraud and the Republicans know that that will be critical…

    So, if Palin is VP pick, and if Hillary’s on the trail for BO, people will ask WHY ISN’T HILLARY VP? they will say to themselves, the Fraud can’t even put her in his Cabinet even when she’s got more Presidential credential than him, but he will force her to win the election for him and iron his shirt in the meantime?!!

    I think that was another strategic move by McCain that was brilliant with this choice.

  • NewMexicoFan

    What Naral, Now, and Emily’s list forgot was you support women and women’s issues.

    They were hood winked, bribed, or bullied into thinking that O would do that, although there is no proof. Women have got to learn to play better in the big world. YOU BELIEVE NOTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING, AND YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT ENDORSE A MAN OVER A WOMEN WHO HAS GONE TO CHINA AND SAID HUMAN RIGHTS ARE WOMEN’S WRITE.

    These groups truly need to learn how to stand up for women (they absolutely did not do this). This is like a POW camp. You never give up your soul, unless you know where your soul is going.

  • birdgal

    emjay: you are right. Hillary said, because of YOU….

  • kostner

    Showtime in Dayton [Jay Nordlinger]

    For those of you who missed Palin’s speech today, you may find it here. And some quick points — rather, pointlets:

    She is leaderly. That’s not quite a word, but I have employed it often. (It ought to be a word.) Governor Palin is strong, assured, natural — and leaderly. I’m not sure she is less presidential — to say nothing of vice-presidential — than any of the other three on the national tickets.

    Like many Americans, she says “Eye-rack” and “Eye-ran” (for two neighboring countries in the Middle East). Some people mock this, but it is very American. And — speaking of mockery — she also says “nuke-u-lar”: like George W. Bush, Jimmy Carter (who was a nuclear engineer), and Eisenhower.

    When she said she was “commander of Alaska’s National Guard,” I somehow sat up straighter!

    Just about all my e-mailers have said that McCain hit a home run today, and that his election prospects are helped immeasurably. From their mouths to You-Know-Who’s ear. Some also say that, for the first time, they’re planning to give to McCain — or have even done so already.

    When playing veepstakes over the last few months, I have balked at Sarah Palin (for reasons stated earlier in the day). (And those reasons have to do with electoral politics, not substance.) I would be delighted to be proved wrong. And, even on Day One — before any (real) stumping, before any debating, before much hurly-burly — she has inspired confidence in me.

    FWIW, as we say in e-mail-ese.

    P.S. I still think the “highest, hardest glass ceiling” bit is gross. But for political/polemical/rhetorical purposes — one of course understands.

  • kostner

    Newsweek interview back in March…

    h t t p : / / http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

  • kostner

    Obama Reax to Palin [Andy McCarthy]

    The more I think about it, the more stupid that graceless statement by the Obama camp seems. McCain went out of his way last night to congratulate Obama and salute the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. Obama, Mr. Post-Partisanship, concluding a week during which his surrogates very publicly thugged it up to try to suppress critics, had a chance to reciprocate and show a little class. Instead, he issues a boorish dig — which looks even worse now that Palin has made a fabulous first impression, complete with a tip of the hat to Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton.

    I also loved the “U – S – A” cheers in Dayton. Spontaneous patriotism is a nice contrast after four days of hearing how much the country sucks.

  • moononpluto

    Sarah has just brought the entire republican party back into the collective fold. I’m 100% sure of that.

    Bambi just lost all the reagan democrats, the crossover women, the repubs hacked off with McCain and a shitload of women. The independents will cross over in masses.

    I have to say, Bambi’s coalition just got a nuke dropped on it.

  • NewMexicoFan

    kostner, I understand your feelings, but I have been in meetings where I was the subject matter expert, and the powers that be, turn to a male engineer and took their advise rather than mine.

  • kostner

    Palin and Last Night

    St. Paul
    Republicans gathering early here in St. Paul are ecstatic about the Palin pick and-–not surprisingly–less than blown away by the Obama speech in Denver last night. I talked to some experienced Republican operatives this morning and they shared thoughts on both topics.

    First, on Obama last night, a senior GOP communications consultant said this:

    “One of the first rules of communication is ‘Don’t reinforce a negative stereotype.’ For Obama, that stereotype is ‘I’m more of a rock star and a celebrity than a person with the experience necessary to be commander-in-chief.’ I would have given a more sober, serious speech in a less-hyped setting. I think it was over the top from a visual perspective, and I’m not sure your average guy in Ohio shares the enthusiasm that was in the stadium.”

    A GOP operative working at the convention in St. Paul said this: “I guess we now know the kind of ‘change’ he has in mind. He wants to bring about a bunch of liberal, redistributive policies. I don’t think that’s the type of change people want.”

    Finally, an experienced GOP campaign veteran I talked to worried about younger voter reaction to the speech. “I can see how young people might buy into this whole thing. The hype, the music, the enthusiasm–it’s like nothing they’ve every seen in politics before. The problem is it’s the same old product with just a new salesman. I worry that young voters don’t get that.”

    Participants here are still digesting the Palin pick, but early reactions are glowing. Here’s a sampling of immediate reactions from folks here in the Xcel Center:

    “It’s a great pick. The team will have broad generational appeal.”

    “I’m glad it’s not a Washington insider.”

    “I can’t wait to see her debate Joe Biden.”

    The selection should also sit well with delegates who worried Senator McCain might pick a pro-choice candidate or even a Democrat. Bottom line: The Palin pick is generating a lot of initial enthusiasm in the convention hall right now–passion the McCain camp hopes will build into next week.

  • confloyd

    Breaking News from Hillary,
    Congrats to Sarah Palin and John McCain. She did not attack Sarah Palin. IT was a very good statement!

  • carbynew

    I’m loving Lindsay Gramham right now..when he answered Wolfe question about Palin ready to be President. He said ” if she handle Stevens, she can handle Putin.”

    ROTFL!!!

  • moononpluto

    There’s also that thing about feeling good about electing a first of anything, Bambi isnt unique any more.

    We are either getting the first AA president or first woman vice president.

    There will some people who will vote Obama just to see an AA president but equally now, they will be not sure, because they can also elect the first woman. He’s no longer unique and Bambi will hate that.

  • kostner

    NewMexicoFan ,

    This is the sort of bias and discrimination against women that only TOUGH women themselves will be able to erase.

    That’s why I’m absolutely furious the democratic party leadership rejected a tough intelligent woman to help shatter the eventual bias and discrimination against women.

    They always prefer stupid loonies such as Pelosi/McCaisile etc.

  • turndownobama-com

    ABM90 .

    “HILLARY FOR MAJORITY LEADER” Go Girl

    ============

    Right! This is something all Dems could agree on. Will Bower is working on it at FAcebook.

    h t t p : / / http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=72075850013
    The DNC may have undermined 18,000,000 voters…
    …but we can do our best to make sure that the DSCC and the Senate
    don’t do the same.
    Let those Senatorial candidates up for election in November know that,
    if they want our votes, that they will pledge to elect Hillary Clinton
    our next Senate Majority Leader.
    Like LBJ in the late 1950s, Hillary Clinton can lead this country from
    that seat of power… and we 18,000,000 will have our voices better
    served and respected.

    Imo this is a great idea! It gives HIllary power, it shows Pelosi
    and Reid they can’t bully her. Also seeing which candidates will sign
    the pledge, shows us which downticket Dems to vote for in November!

  • NewMexicoFan

    kostner

    amen

  • kostner

    How Palin Came to the Top of the List
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    Share August 29, 2008 3:08 PM

    ABC’s Jan Crawford Greenburg reports: It wasn’t until Sunday night that John McCain, after meeting with his four top advisers, finally decided he could not tap independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to be his running mate. One adviser, tasked with taking the temperature of the conservative base, had strongly made the case to McCain that it would be a disaster for the party and that the base would revolt. McCain concluded he could not go that route.

    The next day, McCain studied the three men at the top of his shortlist: Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge. All had different strengths and negatives, but McCain was not satisfied. None of them had what McCain believed he needed to do — and would have done — with Lieberman.

    McCain wanted to shake up the ticket.

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s name was in the mix as an unconventional choice for months, but she had not been considered a front-runner. So, over the next few days, with McCain continuing to believe he needed someone who had more of a maverick streak than his other choices, lawyers reviewed her vetting information. They kept their activities from even some in McCain’s most senior inner circle.

    Pawlenty had been the youthful pick advisers believed would represent a fresh direction — and one they could use to argue the Republican VP pick was more experienced than the Democratic presidential nominee. But Pawlenty’s flaw — what cost him the VP — was that he would not have stirred things up. He was safe, and McCain was not inclined to take the safe route.

    The campaign secretly flew Palin into Dayton last night. She and McCain met privately for a couple of hours. McCain concluded she would “shake up the system” and was “a maverick,” qualities he believed Lieberman would have brought to the ticket. But she also would appeal to conservatives — which Lieberman most certainly would not have done.

    After their meeting, McCain concluded he was comfortable with his choice. He notified Pawlenty this morning that he was going in a different direction

  • basil9

    I’m baaaaaack and i’s still smiling! 😀

    Berkeley, I agree that HRC is probably lhao at this and I also think she’s a big enough
    person to realize the huge boost women all over the world got with JM’s choice transcends
    any regret she has over her own situation. I see HRC as a very secure person who is at peace with herself, her life, her choices and her beliefs.
    About roe v wade; While it’s a landmark bill and crucial for women’s rights the advances and availability
    of birth control methods over the past 20 years has, imho, made the issue a little less urgent.

  • moononpluto

    John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he’s a man who knows how to make a bold decision. Barack Obama chose Joe Biden because Michelle told him not to choose Hillary. Thank you, Michelle!!!!!

  • admin

    Strong video by what appears to be a Republican or right-wing group called “John McCain and Sarah Palin Visit the Troops”. Good song too.

  • OkieAtty

    Carby- HA! I Hate Gramm, but that’s funny. I hate to give him some props there for a funny.

  • texan4hillary

    obama is blowing it again-doesnt call her guv, says shes froma sm ton, ahs no experience. like mccains folks said today-um he hasnt held a cmte hearing. palin has governed. brilliant play. now experience questions are more open for obama. game changer.

  • turndownobama-com

    dedfg Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    =====================

    Hillary for BOTH! Maj Leader now — President 2012!

    Maj Leader gives her more power against Pelosi, Reid, etc. Reid has power because he is Maj Leader. If Hillary is Maj Leader, they can’t threaten her, she can threaten them! That would give her much more power if there is another nomination fight in 2012.

  • confloyd

    Poolosi may have to sit beside another woman anyway, she sure tried hard to make sure she was the only one up there. Now is will have to sit beside a younger, prettier one. LMAO!!

    Why don’t I see Donna out and about??

  • carbynew

    Women react to McCain’s choice for vice president

    November will be an historic election no matter which party takes the White House. John McCain chose Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. McCain announced his surprising decision this morning. Analysts said McCain’s pick is an effort to grab the attention of some of Hillary Clinton supporters.

    Sarah Palin is 44-years-old and calls herself an anti-abortion feminist. She’s pro-oil drilling and against gay marriage. The mother of five became Alaska’s youngest governor back in 2006.

    McCain made the announcement during a rally in Dayton Ohio Friday just three days before the GOP convention.

    “She’s not from these parts and she’s not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you’re gonna be as impressed as I am,” Senator McCain said.

    Governor Sarah Palin said, “It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out women of America aren’t finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.”

    Palin is the first female vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party, but she’s the second in history. Back in 1984 Democrat Geraldine Ferraro became the first female vice-president candidate to be elected by a major party. But will the McCain-Palin ticket by enough come November.

    News 10NBC talked with some voters about the impact this pick has on our future.

    “Pleased that a woman is at the top of the ticket,” Jan Miller said. “What a great role model for our daughters and granddaughters.”

    Jan Miller has had a close eye on the elections. She was a Hillary Clinton supporter. We sat with her Tuesday night as she watched Clinton’s speech at the democratic National Convention. She said she hasn’t made up her mind yet, but she’s glad another woman is making history.

    “She seems to be an intelligent self confident woman and it’s been almost 25 years since picked Ferraro, so I’m thrilled he picked a woman,” Miller said.

    Sarah Palin is only the second woman ever to be nominated for vice president. Nancy Kleintop is the president of the League of Women Voters. She said this is a symbolic move for U.S. politics and women.

    “There’s a real opportunity for women to be motivated to vote, to vote for those things that are really their priority in terms of lives,” Kleintop said.

    County Executive Maggie Brooks said Palin represents the views of middle-Americans, especially busy working moms. She said with Hillary Clinton not on a ticket this could sway her Democratic supporters to the Republican Party.

    “Let’s face it, the Democrats didn’t even consider Hillary the most powerful political woman in the country as a vice president possibility, so I think Hillary supporters have a place to go in the Republican party supporting a woman as vice president,” Brooks said.

    http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S561033.shtml?cat=566

  • moononpluto

    I’ve heard there is major discontent amongst the Democrats tonight, they never saw this coming, they expected McCain to go with “safe” romney or Pawlenty, they had nothing on Sarah Palin, he threw them for a loop.

    Now they have a major crisis and don’t know what to do.

  • ABM90

    I have no problem voting for JM and MS Palin.I regret the fact that Hillary is not in the race but she still has an outside chance
    if all Hell breaks loose when his baggage spills out into the public
    news domain.BO and MO must never be allowed into our White House that they would desecrate as they paint it black.Folks I think we have a crisis facing this country tatamount to the rise of
    Adolph Hitler in Germany and his counterpart in Italy,Benito Mussolini.They both came to their demise by angry citizens.
    Adolph died by gunshots and a fiery death while Benito was hung in a public square.I am not suggesting that we apply these
    measures to them.Our votes didn;t work so just expose his devious plans to be our American Dictator that would impose hiphop and rap as our new language and anthem.He who constantly boasts of his love for his country has something else in mind other than hope and change.Pardon my comment ” He
    has more BS than a Christmas Turkey”.While I am at it I might as
    well express my disgust in watching the big kiss that he planted
    on Mrs Bidens lips.She seemed in a daze in her reaction to
    having liver lips feasting on her.Obama lips are for husband
    cheeks are for everyone else.My wife would have given him the
    knee treatment then demanded an HIV clearance certificate.
    Ah what a team from the DNC as our only choice.Biden and OBama the second coming of AMOS and ANDY.Who were they?
    Do some research on the radio favorites in the 20’s and early
    30’s They were very popular.In the mean time it is Hillary time for Majority leader and the her hard earned right to thePresidency
    in 2012 if not sooner than we might think.

    By ABM90 Enjoy your holiday weekend all and think of Bush Cheney Gas Prices imposed by the REPUGS.HAppy Motoring.

  • kostner

    I think the media is underestimating her. I really don’t believe Biden is that good a debater.

  • dedfg

    “Let’s face it, the Democrats didn’t even consider Hillary the most powerful political woman in the country as a vice president possibility, so I think Hillary supporters have a place to go in the Republican party supporting a woman as vice president,” Brooks said.

    One think though is the republicans need to be very careful in not trashing Hillary.

  • admin

    Obama “Blames the Staff” again:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_distances_himself_from_hairtrigger_campaign_criticism_.html

    At a stop in Monaca, Pa., Barack Obama seemed to distance himself from his campaign’s first, harshly critical response to the Palin pick.

    “I think that, uh, you know campaigns start getting these uh, hair triggers and, uh, the statement that Joe and I put out reflects our sentiments,” he said, according to the pool report, apparently criticizing his staff for going overboard, as he did occasionally in the primary.

  • rgb44hrc

    kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Just about all my e-mailers have said that McCain hit a home run today, and that his election prospects are helped immeasurably. Some also say that, for the first time, they’re planning to give to McCain — or have even done so already.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    I “celebrated” Obama’s speech…by donating to McCain. My wife and I have said for since Obama stole the nomination in early June that McCain was one of the few Republicans we could get behind, and that we would donate. Kept talking about it, and finally, at 10:00pm just before Waffles started pouring on the syrup, we both made our first donations.

    Now that Obama has forgone public financing, setting himself back 84 cool ones in the hole, he obviously needs to outraise McCain. Most recent months, BO continues to haul in 50ish mil, McCain 20ish, then 27. So since June, he’s outraised McCain by about 50. But he’s 84 mil back. And he’s tapping out his reserves, and good will, by over soliciting. Plus those that gave might feel that he’s sold out, that the guy they donated to in January turned into Mr. Hyde in June, completely changing his positions on almost every topic.

    And if they think the big time Hillary bundlers are going to come to the rescue, it’s already well known that the answer is:

    No Money. NObama.

  • OkieAtty

    Kostner, when you look at people like Kerry, Kennedy and Obama- all giant egos- do you really think any of them would be okay with playing second fiddle to anyone let alone a woman?

    None of them are strong enough to play second to anyone and if that anyone is a woman- it’d be worse for them ego wise.

    McCain really is a maverick in his choices. This wouldn’t have even been possible in 2000 let alone without Hillary’s candidacy this cycle.

    Hillary is still at the top of my list.

  • kostner

    CNN’s John Roberts, after briefly alluding to the issue of Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s experience he called into question earlier on Friday’s “Newsroom” program, asked correspondent Dana Bash about how the Alaska governor’s newborn son with Down’s syndrome might be affected if she were elected: “There’s also this issue that on April 18th, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome…. Children with Down’s syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?”

    Bash deftly answered this question, which has the implication that Palin could neglect her infant son, and made a possible counter-argument the McCain camp would use, that a question like Roberts’ would be sexist: “That’s a very good question, and I guess — my guess is that, perhaps, the line inside the McCain campaign would be, if it were a man being picked who also had a baby, but — you know, four months ago with Down’s Syndrome, would you ask the same question?”

    The CNN correspondent continued by briefly describing the Palin’s family situation and the thinking that may have gone into the situation for both McCain and Palin herself. She concluded by reporting on the Alaska governor’s appeal to social conservatives because she is “very staunchly anti-abortion,” in Bash’s words.

    The full transcript of the exchange between John Roberts and Dana Bash, which began 7 minutes into the 11 am Eastern hour of CNN’s “Newsroom” [audio available here]:

  • texan4hillary

    also-the sexism msm s doing plays agian for mccain. it rouses the feelings of hill supporters about how she was treated. women rallied for hillay in nh bc of this. we will relive how hillary was treated in some ways. and it will cause more women to vote mccain. my folks like her bc she is froma family of teachers. she and hubby are union. they arent well educated-they are working folks. she will help in wa, ore, maine and the west. also pa. and palin fights like hell. msm thinks she ill be real sweet. but she will bite when needed.

  • admin

    Hillary statement:

    We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain. While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.

  • independent2008

    I didn’t know anything about Sarah Palin nor even heard of her until lately. Interesting to see how this election pans out. I just hope it don’t become another Geraldine F. election. Don’t get me wrong, I like Geraldine for her bold statements she made during the primaries.

    But you know there are people who will vote against a woman.

    I have no real opinion about her yet. I’ll have to see more of her. But it doesn’t really matter anyone since I was going for McCain. Just don’t know if she will be an asset or a liability for McCain. Looking forward to getting to know her though!

  • birdgal

    Thanks admin, for the Hillary quote. Classy, as always.

  • admin

    As we wrote, the Republicans are now 100% united and not in a fake DNC way. Even right-wing nut job of nut jobs Dobson is now on board with McCain (and Dobson really hates McCain):

    http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2008/08/29/dobson_%E2%80%9Ci_would_pull_that_lever%E2%80%9D_for_mccain-palin

    Earlier this year Dr. Jim Dobson, President of Focus on the Family made news when he announced on “The Dennis Prager Show” that he “cannot and will not vote for Senator John McCain.” Today, on The Dennis Prager Show, the conservative leader changed course and announced his enthusiastic support on the heels of the announcement by Senator McCain of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate.

    Dennis Prager: I have a guest here who’s extremely significant in American life, whether you call it American political, certainly American religious life, one of the best known Christians in America— Dr. James Dobson who is president and founder of Focus on the Family…. The last time you were on was a very serious conversation about your feeling at the time that you just couldn’t vote for John McCain, and where do you stand now?

    Dr. James Dobson: Well, Dennis, I shared with a colleague just a few minutes ago exactly what you said about the period of time when Ronald Reagan had broken onto the scene and I was in Washington D.C. the day he was inaugurated. That was one of the most exciting days of my life, because everything that we had hoped for and been working for had come to pass. I feel very much that way today. Maybe that’s an overstatement. Maybe time won’t validate it, but this is a very exciting and encouraging day for conservatives and pro-family activists. I am just very, very pleased.

    Prager: In light of that, may I infer that when you enter the voting booth—and I am putting you on the spot. I fully acknowledge, and you’re certainly free to say it’s a secret ballot you don’t want to say, but you’re too public to really get away with that, so what’s the story right now?

    Dobson: Well, you know I did a radio program about a month ago with Dr. Albert Mohler, and we talked about what was at stake in this election and our concerns about the policies that Barack Obama would implement. The more I hear the more I learn, the more concerned I am, and so on that program Dr. Mohler and I talked about the fact that John McCain is not the perfect candidate. He’s certainly would not be my choice and, for over a year, I did not feel that I could vote for him. But I said in that radio program that “I can’t say it now”—which was then, because I didn’t know who his vice presidential choice would be, and he if would come up with Lieberman or Tom Ridge or somebody like that, we’d be back in a hole again. But I said for the first time “I might, I might.” And some people call that a flip-flop. If they do, so be it. Campaigns are long. You get information. You find out what the choices are. So I’ve been moving in John McCain’s direction. I don’t know if anybody cares, but for me…

    Prager: Plenty, plenty of people care and that’s why I am having you on. I care, many people care and you have a lot of followers. You have earned the right to that respect. So are you prepared to say, “Folks, look, given this pick and all I have learned about what would happen with a Democratic victory we have no choice, but to enthusiastically work for the McCain-Palin ticket?”

    Dobson: You know, I have only endorsed one presidential candidate in my life and that was George Bush in the second term after I had watched him for four years. I did not do that in his first term. So I’m very reluctant to do that. You marry a politician you can be a widow pretty quickly.

    Prager: That’s right.

    Dobson: But I can tell you that if I had to go into the studio, I mean the voting booth today, I would pull that lever.

  • kostner

    independent2008,

    obviously, it’s a risk choice. But the fundamental difference between Palin and Geraldine is that GOP is deemed as strong, tough whether it’s right or wrong. A GOP woman candidate will have a natural advantage over a Dem woman candidate in terms of being perceived to be tough, which is really the top quality of a president.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Yep, classy and disciplined, as always. Contrast that to the huge freak-out and rabid attacks, instantly lobbied by the Obama camp this morning.

  • Berkeley Vox

    “lobbed” ^

  • kostner

    h t t p : / / http://www.slate.com/id/2198949/

    Sarah Palin, Web Invention

  • neetabug

    Turndownobama,

    You don’t see Donna because she got played by Carl Rove Ha Ha Ha

  • admin

    Some get it and agree with us on what happened today:

    http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2008/08/avoiding_the_mccainpalin_trap.php

    I have to admit some significant disagreement with how most Democrats (including the Obama campaign) are reacting to the choice of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running-mate. Many are simply deriding Palin as a lightweight or someone obviously unqualifed to be commander-in-chief–another Dan Quayle. Others watched the event in Dayton and found the whole thing laughable.

    To be sure, I’m a poor judge of the visual side of campaign events. But what I saw in Dayton was (1) the “maverick” GOP presidential candidate introducing his “maverick” running mate, even though Palin, even more than McCain, is actually a conservative ideologue whose selection thrilled both cultural and economic factions of the Right; (2) a direct appeal by Palin to HRC supporters to consummate Hillary’s campaign by shattering the splintered “glass ceiling;” (3) a compelling personal story of a woman who (a) has one son with Down’s Syndrome, (b) another who is being deployed to Iraq on September 11; (c) is married to a Native American (at least technically) union worker and athlete; and (d) has bravely defied her party and oil companies in Alaska.

    If I’m wrong and other Democrats are right, then Palin’s obvious and laughable lack of gravitas and preparation for the vice presidency under a 72-year-old president will become apparent soon enough. But if I’m right and others are wrong, then focusing criticism of the choice of Palin on her qualifications could be a very large mistake, particularly in terms of women who might otherwise have little reason to support her, but who are sensitive to gender-based double standards. Credentials aside, Palin is very vulnerable because, like McCain, he’s mainly “above party” because she dissents from Republican orthodoxy in Alaska from the Right. Both cultural and economic wingnuts love her passionately. And as I said in my last post, she crucially reinforces McCain’s phony “maverick” image with her own phony maverick image.

    Ignoring all that in favor of mocking her for what many Democrats are privately calling her “obvious” lack of credentials for the White House is a big and unnecessary gamble, and quite possibly a trap. We should all take pains to avoid it.

  • birdgal

    I don’t think Palin’s maverick image is phony. Her actions speak to her being a maverick.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I have raised two women Athletes, and I can tell you they are competitive. They have used this skill in there work place, and it has served them well.

    They use to call Gov Palin Sara Barracuda, that must tell you something.

  • mp

    I made this list of my reasons for “living with McCain for 4 yrs” over BO on in late may/june.
    I did not post it anywhere because I wanted the DEM convention over. I did send it to some of my freinds. I am happy about point 12 today!!!!! I also donated $250 dollars today to his campaign….more than I thought I would but I feel I am doing something right here. I did thios by aug 31st so he can get max matching campaign dollars

    1. Iraq Issue – has/had 2 sons in Iraq fighting; made personal sacrifice.> – no president is a ruler for 100yrs…if he does something stupid, congress would be even more stupider than they are now> – congress can stop it by stopping full funding – PERIOD!> – also McCain voted against Bush tax cuts in 2003 saying that at time of war, tax cuts are not needed
    2. Supports stem cell research
    3. supports full immigration plan…fair and balanced; he wrote the initial legislation; he withstood against his own party’s wrath during the summer of 2007.
    4. A respectable CIC; a know quantity. He will defend the country
    5. Fiscal conservative – I happen to like it! Who cares about the others right now.> > 6. Judges/SC…well senate better do their work in approval process; ginsberg and others can stay 4 more yrs…they are not that too old.
    7. Abortion…hmm not bothered..worst case it will become a state issue vs. federal issue. we have many moderate pro chocie repubs – like Arnie, Crist, Snows, collins, specter etc
    8. AZ gov will have to appoint a DEM senator to replace him! whoopie we have 1 additional DEM senator that way to work with Hillary!
    9. Reasonable tax plans…i like them
    10. health plan…will give credits ; fine for now…the other plans will take a long time and money to implement anyway..so the senate can start with little steps…children, automate records etc
    11. will work with senators and congress as he has always done
    12. Please choose a smart VP….. i think he will
    13. Strong on national security; I trust him over BO anyday over America’s national security!
    14. Not good on economic issuse like clinton but he can and will take advice and listen
    15. age…no probelm.; he will be less of a burden for future tax payers money when he retires. how great to know that the stupid baby boomers and the spoilt youngs ones in this country are forced to respect an ELDER for a CHANGE. TIME FOR RESPECT… no age discominatiuon here… IT TAKES A VILLAGE!!!! AND EVERY VILLAGE NEEDS AN ELDER!!!!!
    16. supports campaign finance…remember his campaign days when he was broke! He did it cheaply!! He carried his own bags to a commercial, economy priced air plane and stated at volunteeer’s house. He also did not accept protection from the Secret service until a few weeks ago – saved us tax payer a lot of money. He is looking after MY tax money!
    17. He will listen to advisors but also be able to make an independent judgement.
    18. Cindy McCain has been working for children a long time here and abroad. They adopted a daughter from Bangladesh – a muslim country – from an orphanage run by Mother Teresa. Cindy and John are great HUMANITARIANS!!!!!! they walk the talk!!!!!!!!
    19: He recognises climate change and global waarming and will things to help combat it.
    20: John Kerry in 2004 thought McCain was a good chocie as his VP…so John Kerry endorsed McCain as someone who can govern this country.

  • dedfg

    I could never support Obama though.

  • moononpluto

    Whatever way you look at it, No one NADA is talking about Obama.

    Zilch, nada, zip, end of story.

    McCain did a blinder and basically for all intent and purposes took Obama’s speech, shat on it and tossed it in the bin because right now, everyones forgotten his “historic” speech.

    McCain has ensured the Dem convention went out with a wimper and not a bang, they’ll be talking about this all weekend and then the Repub convention on Monday.

    How furious on a level of 1 to 10 is Obama right now, i’d say about 100 and his ego will spit out something nasty, you can count on it.

    I just have to say Obama, you got taken out to the woodshed and beaten with a rather large 2 x 4.

    Seriously today its, Obama who?

  • HillaryforTexas

    Obama is so yesterday. The media are going to be all over the Palin story for weeks.

  • CountTheVotes

    GO HILLARY! Great statement. She has always been talking about the history that even BO was making as an AA candidate. Hillary is consistent…she is not a pandering idiot like BO who only goes where the political winds blow. Hillary is like McCain in this sense. They’re both brave.

    Hillary for Senate Majority Leader!!!!

    Could we actually have a country that functions with bi-partisan leadership on both sides of the aisles? Wow, wow.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Consider the last 24 hours:

    1) McCain delivers a classy, congratulatory message to Obama
    2) Obama gives a ho-hum speech
    3) McCain announces Palin
    4) Obama campaign freaks out, trashes Palin instantly, mocking her small-town background
    5) Hillary releases classy, congratulatory message to McCain and Palin
    6) Obama and Biden, realizing they screwed up, quickly copy Hillary and awkwardly try to congratulate Palin, while simultaneously trashing their own staff

  • Idunn

    Pelosi may have blown that position for another woman for a very long time.

  • CountTheVotes

    Hillary in 2012.

    I’ll be playing the Beatles song “When I’m 64…” and thinking about Hillary all the way. Cannot wait to the get the Hillary 2012 bumper sticker.

  • carbynew

    Part 1

    John McCain picks Alaska Gov for Veep
    by Jill Zuckman

    Dayton, OHIO – Sen. John McCain has chosen Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, a tough-talking social conservative with sterling credentials as a reformer, to be his running mate, campaign officials confirmed.

    McCain, who turns 72 today, is expected to announce his choice at a rally in Dayton at noon today at the Ervin J. Nutter Center where about 12,000 people were waiting. After the rally, the pair plans to take the Straight Talk Express campaign bus to Pittsburgh.

    Palin is the first woman governor of Alaska, elected in 2006. She was also the youngest ever elected at the age of 42. She is the mother of five children, the youngest of whom was born in April with Down’s Syndrome. She ran on a clean government platform in ’06, defeating the incumbent Republican Governor Frank Murkowski.

    In a statement, McCain called Palin “a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her administration and has a record of delivering on the change and reform we need in Washington.”

    The statement also said Palin has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy sources. “She leads a state that matters to every one of us – Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent,” he said.

    McCain reportedly considered Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, among others.

    Palin is a social conservative who is strongly opposed to abortion and same sex marriage. In addition, she is pro-gun and wildly popular in Alaska.

    As governor, she has raised taxes on the oil industry, pushed ethics legislation amidst corruption investigation of Alaska lawmakers and limited requests for congressional earmarks after Alaska’s “Bridge to Nowhere” made the state a national laughingstock.

    “We’ve got to make sure the rest of the United States doesn’t believe the only thing going on in Alaska is FBI probes and corruption trials,” Palin told the Associated Press last year.

    In Palin McCain has chosen someone with no experience on the national stage and no foreign policy experience. But she is a reformer, popular with conservatives and is considered tough enough to deal with what may come.

    In the Vice Presidential debate, however, she will go up against Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who has personal relationships with heads of state and other world leaders.

    With voters concerned about McCain’s age and his history of skin cancer, it remains to be seen whether they will be reassured by a woman with little to no experience on the federal stage who is a heartbeat away from the presidency.

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/printer-john_mccain_picks_alaska_gov_s.html

  • carbynew

    Part 2

    Bill Burton, Sen. Barack Obama’s spokesman, derided McCain’s choice.

    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency,” Burton said. “Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies – that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”

    Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) called McCain’s choice “a hail Mary pass.”

    “It is a real role of the dice and shows how John McCain, Karl Rove et al realize what a strong position the Obama-Biden team and Democrats in general are in in this election,” Schumer said. “Certainly the choice of Palin puts to rest any argument about inexperience on the Democratic team and while Palin is a fine person, her lack of experience makes the thought of her assuming the presidency troubling. I particularly look forward to the Biden-Palin debate in Missouri.”

    Rep. Jim Clyburn, the House Democratic Whip, told South Carolina ETV Radio that the pick was “risky” and would prove to be as embarrassing to McCain as Dan Quayle was to former President Bush.

    “I do believe that McCain has to do something to reshuffle the cards, shake up the establishment, do something unexpected and Governor Palin…has all the kinds of things that McCain might see as a way to shake things up,” Clyburn said. “I think it would be something similar to Dan Quayle…Dan Quayle proved to be sort of an embarrassment as a campaigner. Being thrust on a national stage like that could be very tough.”

    Clyburn also compared the choice to Walter Mondale picking Geraldine Ferraro, a member of Congress who became the first woman on a national ticket, which he said was “absolutely awful.”

    “And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left,” Clyburn said.

    But Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saulius Anuzis said he is excited about the pick.

    “She will strengthen Senator McCain’s appeal to Reagan Democrats, and supporters of Senator Hillary Clinton, who are looking for a president who has the experience and temperament to be commander-in-chief,” Anuzis said.

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/printer-john_mccain_picks_alaska_gov_s.html
    ******************************************************I’m very disgusted with the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY good ole boys networks…demeaning women is a habit and not Hillary hating…those comments says alot about my party.

    They never took Hillary Clinton campaign seriously!!!

  • moononpluto

    Yes the Democratic party is a party now of women haters.

  • JanH

    It came home to me very dearly today that family means everything. My 88 year old uncle, the last member alive on my mother’s side, passed away.

    I will just say that I like that Palin has a large family. I like that McCain’s wife cared enough to go to Georgia to see the refuges. I love that Hillary wanted to take care of health care for everyone.

    This is what matters.

  • JanH

    refuges=refugees

  • Idunn

    Keep talking Democratic Party, and I pormise you, McCain/Palin will win this election without ever having to break a sweat.

  • carbynew

    Geraldine Ferraro: A salutary tale for Republicans
    The last female vice-presidential candidate was a disastrous campaigner and the Democratic ticket was defeated in a landslide by Ronald Reagan.

    By Alex Spillius in Denver
    Last Updated: 8:31PM BST 29 Aug 2008

    Geraldine Ferraro: ‘There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated’ Photo: GETTY IMAGES One of the most enthusiastic welcomes for Sarah Palin’s elevation came from Geraldine Ferraro, who in 1984 was the first woman vice-presidential nominee, running for the Democrats with Walter Mondale.

    A disgruntled supporter of Senator Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary, Mrs Ferraro wrote on Friday: ‘Without Hillary being the nominee it’s really quite equally as important. There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated by the media, by how she was treated by the Obama campaign … not speaking up when sexism raised its ugly head in the media.”

    However amid the enthusiasm among Republicans about the boldness shown by Senator John McCain in choosing Mrs Palin as his running mate, Mrs Ferraro provides a salutary tale.

    Her excitable comments, submitted on a Fox News blog, and her claims during the primary that Senator Barack Obama’s popularity was down to his skin colour, showed the ungainliness that marked her campaign 24 years ago.

    The initial bounce Mr Mondale received in the polls after selecting Mrs Ferraro, which Mr McCain is likely to get now, did not last, and the Democrats were defeated in a landslide by Ronald Reagan.

    Mrs Ferraro was viewed as a gamble, especially when her husband John Zaccaro, a wealthy developer, failed to disclose his tax returns and was reported to be renting warehouse space to a pornographic distribution company.

    She received mixed reviews for her vice-presidential debate with George Bush, particularly from Barbara Bush, who when asked what she thought of Mrs Ferraro, responded: “I can’t say it, but it rhymes with rich.”

    Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, recalled her on Friday as “a disaster as a running mate”.

    He told ETV Radio in his home state South Carolina: “As a campaigner, she was absolutely awful. And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2646884/Geraldine-Ferraro-A-salutary-tale-for-Republicans.html
    ******************************************************
    I see that mysoginist Clyburn remarks are all around the world. What a pig and to find that Nancy Pelosi supported his #3 position tells me how much RESPECT the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has for her too and for all WOMEN in this country.

    No wonder NO DEMOCRATIC LEADER stood up and spoke out against SEXISM and MYSOGINY…they all hold that view Clyburn spit out…but I Blame all those WOMEN GROUPS parking themselves in the DEMOCRATIC HOUSE and getting NOTHING back from them only rhetoric.

    Action matters…words are only words if there is no action supporting it.

  • moononpluto

    You know what stood most to me today about Sarah Palin and its something you don’t often see.

    The woman is real, you can tell she means it. She’s totally believable. She looks like one of us and that is the best thing that could have happened.

    No wonder she has 90% approval rates, you can tell you get something done when you ask her.

  • kostner

    Wow, toe-sucker is an evil genius!!! Money quotes:”Now Obama, who has spent two years preventing a woman from being president, will spend two months preventing one from becoming vice president – and hopes to do so with women votes.”

    ———————————————

    « CHALLENGE TO MCCAINSWEET PICK! KUDOS TO MCCAIN FOR CHOOSING SARAH PALIN FOR HIS VP

    By Dick Morris 08.29.2008

    McCain has reached for the stars and grabbed one. On a recent cruise to Alaska, I had the pleasure of spending an afternoon with Sarah Palin. She is brilliant and articulate and, in Alaska politics, is a breath of fresh air as an alternative to their corruption epitomized by Alaska Republican Senator Ted Stevens. Now Obama, who has spent two years preventing a woman from being president, will spend two months preventing one from becoming vice president – and hopes to do so with women votes. The entire premise of the Democratic convention was the fungibility of Bush and McCain. Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!

  • Berkeley Vox

    Interesting excerpt from WaPo:

    ——
    Jill Hazelbaker, a McCain campaign spokeswoman, said in a statement that Palin “has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for president.”

    Howard Wolfson, the former communications director for Clinton, said Palin could peel away some votes from Obama.

    “Both campaigns seemed to have decided that Hillary Clinton’s 18 millions voters represent a key swing bloc in this election — both Barack Obama’s speech and John McCain’s pick were at least partially aimed at them,” Wolfson said in an e-mail.

  • kostner

    Sarah Palin Runs A State. Barack Obama Runs His Mouth.
    Maverick and Barracuda Take On The Status Quo

    Posted by: Erick Erickson

    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 03:31PM

    27 Comments

    I cannot tell you how excited I am about the Palin pick. McCain lived up to his maverick reputation and did well.

    It is time to pony up to the campaign. Sure, we’re still going to have to put up with some of McCain’s McCainisms. Let’s just get used to it. But, he’s proven he listens to us. Today he puts us on the trajectory toward victory.

    Now let’s deal with some of Obama’s charges. Mr. Hope and Change, who picked a 35+ year veteran of the Senate to cover his own inexperience has the gall to attack Palin for inexperience.

    Were I Palin, I’d first point out that balancing the budget of a working family with five kids gives her more experience than Obama in relating to families out there.

    I’d also point out that, in addition to being elected for five years before Obama was first elected to any office, Palin has been balancing local and state government budgets while Obama was relying on Tony Rezko to balance his budget.

    As for foreign policy experience, Palin’s neighborhood has Russian and Canadians. Barack Obama’s neighborhood has unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.

    I’ll take Palin’s experience. She, by the way, did not run for President on her resume. Obama did.

  • moononpluto

    No Quarter

    BREAKING NEWS: David Axelrod Talking Regularly with Bill Ayers?

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/29/breaking-news-david-axelrod-talking-regularly-with-bill-ayers/

    I now have two sources confirming that Barack Obama’s Communications Director, David Axelrod has been communicating regularly with unrepentant terrorist and former member of the Weathermen, Bill Ayers, about how to respond to stories trying to report on Obama’s longstanding relationship with Ayers. One of my sources tells me that one person, a TV pundit who wishes to not be named, is talking about this without mentioning Axelrod. This person told my friend:

    I predict that the howling and whining we hear from the Obama campaign about Billy Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist who bombed the US. Capitol and has been linked to candidate Obama at least for the last dozen years, will get louder, and more hysterical and more damaging because we will find that not only did Billy Ayers work closely with Barack Obama to fund left wing school schemes in the hands of Maoists (Mike Klonsky) and Neo-Stalinists (Bill Ayers) but also Billy Ayers himself, now, regularly, is talking part in strategy sessions with major Obama advisers as to how to bury the truth about the terrorist and the candidate.”

    Another source with direct access to the Obama campaign reports that it is David Axelrod who is fielding these calls. It is astonishing that the Obama team thought they could contain this information. But they will fail. Their fear about Ayers has little to do with his past as a bomber of U.S. Government facilities and more to do with the mismanagement of more than 100 million dollars that was spent by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC)

  • debbie

    it could be possible..that the democrats in the House bump Pelosi off her throne if democrats do not gain across the board.

    I’d love nothing more.

  • mj

    If Obama loses, Pelosi is OUT!

    Now all McCain has to do is co-opt a couple of Hill’s policy proposals and game over. We will see if he is up to it.

  • carbynew

    Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!
    ***********************************************

    And she proved she is no John Edwards either.

    *jokey-joke*

    ROTFL

  • Berkeley Vox

    Clyburn’s sexism is disgusting:

    ———
    Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) compared Palin’s choice to George H.W. Bush’s choice in 1988 of Dan Quayle, a GOP senator from Indiana, and Walter Mondale’s decision in 1984 to pick Geraldine Ferraro, then a Democratic member of Congress from New York.

    “She proved to be a disaster as a running mate and a campaigner. She was just absolutely awful,” Clyburn told a radio station in his state. “I think it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”

  • moononpluto

    Hey Barack, hows that change thing coming on.

    Oh yeah, you don’t own it anymore.

    Country First.

  • Idunn

    God, you should hear the things being said about Sarah. Stuff like, “What, did she suck McCains dick to get the job?” and “She should go back home and be in a swimsuit competition” and “McCain picked a breast feeding woman. Brilliant.”

    You can’t make this shit up folks.

  • turndownobama-com

    rgb said: b) Do we have to sit them down and slowly explain that Governor is a bigger better job than Senator? It’s an “executive” position. Her two years as guv give her more executive experience than Obama’s and Biden’s years combined. Heh, heh.
    ==============

    RIGHT! A governor has 3 am experience. So does a mayor. It’s a different kind of thing from Senator (unless you’re Hllary in 9/11.)

  • birdgal

    Clyburn is a JERK.

  • moononpluto

    carbynew Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!
    ***********************************************

    And she proved she is no John Edwards either.

    Yeah Sarah Palin knows which kids are hers.

  • confloyd

    Idunn, where are you reading this stuff, there are some sick puppies out there?

  • Idunn

    And will NOW stand up for Sarah when she is dismissed and trashed in the media? Or does now care only about women who are democrats?

    In the words of Stephanie Tubbs Jones, “STEP UP!!”

  • debbie

    JanH, sorry for your loss and yes it is true family is everything

  • kostner

    how refreshing is this? A true blue collar Mr. Palin…

    -=———————————

    Sarah and Todd Palin eloped in 1988, having dated since high school, and reportedly used two residents of a nearby nursing home as witnesses to their nuptials at the Palmer, Alaska, courthouse. Todd, a Yup’ik Eskimo, works as a production operator for British Petroleum on Alaska’s North Slope. He took an unpaid leave of absence when his wife became governor, but returned to BP’s payroll in 2007 amid whispers of possible conflict of interest. “It’s a blue-collar, in-the-field type job, working in a facility as a production operator, separating the oil, the gas and water. It’s not a management position where decisions are being made,” said Gov. Palin, promising that her husband’s job would not affect her own. The “First Dude,” as he is called, is also a four-time winner of the Tesoro Iron Dog, a 2,000-mile snowmobile race. During the summer he works as a fisherman at the Bristol Bay commercial salmon fishery.

  • Emjay

    Idunn

    C-Span now

    repeat of this noon’s rally- the only thing you’ll miss is his coming up from the crowd, instead of over them.

  • Idunn

    Idunn, where are you reading this stuff, there are some sick puppies out there?

    Comments on Politico.

  • Emjay

    Mc Cain on now, getting ready to intro Sarah

  • Idunn

    Thanks emjay. I already saw it. :)

  • admin

    CNN sexism and misogyny:

  • kostner

    Palin and her husband, Todd, have five children. Their three daughters: Bristol, 17, Willow, 14, and Piper, 7. Their two sons: Track, 19, and infant Trig, born in April; the governor carried him to term knowing he had Down Syndrome. Palin describes herself as a “hockey mom” and has a hard-earned reputation as a dedicated working mother. She returned to work just three days after Trig was born and, when she was mayor of Wasilla, she reportedly brought her infant daughter to the office regularly. The baby slept in a carseat under her desk while Palin worked. The Palins’ eldest son, Track, enlisted in the Army on Sept. 11, 2007, and is preparing to deploy to Iraq.

  • Idunn

    Well damn…GO FIRST DUDE! :)

  • kostner

    Despite her own brewing ethics scandal — Palin has been accused of abusing her power to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper — she has built her political career, in part, on ethics reform and whistle blowing. As mayor of Wasilla, she cut her own salary, and was appointed ethics commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. She resigned from the post after complaining that her fellow Commissioner, Republican Randy Ruerich, was raising money for the state party from energy companies he was charged with regulating. He later resigned from the commission and paid a record fine for conflict of interest violations. Palin was elected governor after campaigning as a reformer, and shortly after taking office, she passed a sweeping ethics reform bill regulating lobbyist activities and forcing more disclosure from lawmakers. Palin has enjoyed approval ratings in Alaska as high as 90 percent.

  • kostner

    Earlier this month, a legislative panel launched a $100,000 investigation to determine whether Palin abused her influence by attempting to get her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper. The panel is currently questioning whether Palin dismissed the state’s safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, Mike Wooten, whose marriage to Palin’s sister ended in a bitter divorce — and custody battle — in 2005. Palin has denied the charges, and says she did not coordinate the reported dozens of telephone calls placed by her husband and administration to Wooten’s bosses. Before Palin ran for governor, she and her husband accused Wooten of drinking alcohol on the job and illegal hunting. Wooten was briefly suspended over the allegations in 2006, but never dismissed.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Huffpo is now praising Hillary, saying “Palin is no Hillary”. I am furious at that.

    There is no way in hell that McCain would have done this if we were “a handful of post-rationals”. It is proof of our power.
    And it disgusts me that the likes of Huffpo is now telling us that Hillary is the greatest thing since Jesus, and how we do her a disservice if we accept second-best as women.

    FUCK. THEM. Here’s my “Don’t tell me” speech for Bambi and the DNC

    DON’T TELL me what my interests are as a woman.

    DON’T TELL ME that you alone will protect my right to choice, then spit on me in every other area of life.

    DON’T TELL ME that the woman you used as your fucking punching bag is now the reason I should refrain from making you pay for punching her.

    DON’T TELL ME what is important to me.

    DON’T TELL ME my vote doesn’t count in August, then get fucking morally outraged at me when you can’t have it in November.

    DON’T TELL ME that identity politics are bad and harmful while you sit on your 90% AA vote.

    DON’T TELL ME that I am too stupid to play strategically for long term gains, and am getting played by the Republicans. I know exactly who and what they are, and can use them for my ends just as well as they can use me.

    DON’T TELL ME what to think, how to vote, or what my motivations are for doing it.

    DON’T TELL ME that the just and righteous rage I feel in my very soul is a hormonal hissy fit that I need to “get over”.

  • kostner

    In 2003, the Alaska Court of Appeals legalized the possession of small amounts — four ounces or less — of marijuana in the home, making it the only state in America to allow it. In 2006, then-governor Frank Murkowski outlawed the ruling; the Superior Court, in turn, struck down some of his restrictions (now Alaskans can possess only one ounce). The battle over marijuana became a minor issue during the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial race (which Palin won), with Murkowski claiming he had never smoked pot and Palin admitting that she had tried it. “I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled,” she said at the time.

  • carbynew

    CNN and PMSNBC are all in the tank for King Obambi so when SEXISM and MYSOGINY rears it ugly head on those networks…it will come back and hurt Obama.

  • confloyd

    I am soooo happy the republicans are throwing a normal convention without the rock concerts, american idol stages and a Greek theater. They were throwing money around like drunken sailor’s while Americans were having to decide whether to buy groceries or gas. This display does not make me feel like these idiots know how to balance a budget.

  • kostner

    Palin was born in Idaho but grew up in Alaska, and her hobbies — moose hunting, ice fishing, hiking — indicate a typical Alaskan upbringing. But it was her performance on the Wasilla High School basketball team that earned her the nickname “Sarah Barracuda”— supposedly because of her fiercely competitive nature. Palin, who played point guard, was the team’s captain her senior year, and scored the final point — a free-throw — of the 1982 state championship game that Wasilla won against Anchorage. Two years later, in 1984, Palin, then 20, entered a local beauty pageant to earn college scholarship money. She was crowned Miss Wasilla — and Miss Congeniality — and went on to compete in the Miss Alaska contest, where she came in second. She graduated from the University of Idaho in 1987 with a degree in journalism, and worked briefly as a TV sportscaster in Anchorage and a commercial fisherman before pursuing a career in politics.

  • Idunn

    You said it H4T!!

    In fact…DON’T TELL ME SHIT!!!

  • mj

    Admin, do you have bash’s response? I heard it was a humdinger.

  • kostner

    On August 27, Palin signed a bill to give a Canadian company a license and $500 million in government subsidies to build a pipeline connecting natural gas fields in Alaska’s North Slope with existing infrastructure in Canada and to the continental U.S. Alaskans have been pushing for years for construction of the pipeline, which, according to gas companies, could provide 7 percent of all fuel used in the U.S. Major fuel companies operating in the state — including BP and Conoco Phillips — oppose the plan, however, saying they want to build their own line. Construction could begin as early as next year, but the pipeline wouldn’t be completed until at least 2017 and still faces considerable hurdles — including its massive cost, estimated to be at least $30 billion, which could stymie the plan if fuel prices continue to drop. Palin also supports natural gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge — which McCain has opposed — but Palin is not roundly loved by the energy industry. With Democratic support, last fall she raised taxes on oil company profits.

  • Berkeley Vox

    I feel the same way, Hillary for Texas. It’s unbelievably insulting how Obama and the Democratic establishment treat us Hillary supporters. To them, we are nothing but pawns in their little chess game, and they think they can move us around their game boards like little toy soldiers. They never listen to us, they never let us be heard, and it’s got to stop.

  • kostner

    The first woman to run on a Republican Presidential ticket (and the second woman, after 1984 Democratic candidate Geraldine Ferraro, to run for Vice President for a major party), John McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin was also the first ever female governor of Alaska — and its youngest when she was sworn in at age 42 in 2006. Born in Idaho, Palin’s family moved her to Alaska as an infant, where she grew up in Wasilla, a small town of fewer than 9,000, located 45 miles north of Anchorage. She first entered politics in 1992, winning a seat on the Wasilla City Council, before going on to become the town’s mayor four years later at age 32. After two terms in office, she earned statewide recognition by pursuing the nomination for lieutenant governor — which she lost by only 2,000 votes. Palin has no national experience and less than two years experience as governor, but she is unabashed about that. “That’s a healthy thing,” she told TIME. “That means my perspective is fresher.”

  • moononpluto

    Kostner, it isnt even a scandal, when you look at it and quite frankly, if someone had tasered my 11 yr old nephew, i’d had bounced his ass also.

  • carbynew

    Where Nancy, you would think she would come out and say some neutral “Great day for women progress?”

  • JanH

    Debbie,

    Thanks for your kind thoughts.

    Palin is no Hillary, but she can reach for it and has made a great start.

  • kostner

    Dem Boykin: Palin ‘Affirmative Action’ Pick
    NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

    Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 5:31:38 PM by governsleastgovernsbest

    Of all the criticisms an apparently panicky Dem party has heaped on Sarah Palin in the hours since her selection was announced, Keith Boykin [bio] has come up with perhaps the unseemliest. The former aide to President Clinton has accused Palin of being an “affirmative action” pick.

    Boykin, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard Law, was debating the selection with Republican Joe Watkins at the end of MSNBC’s 4 PM EDT hour. After some preliminary jousting, Boykin dropped his bomb.

    KEITH BOYKIN Let me just say something about this choice. The reason why she doesn’t help, quite frankly, is because it’s an insult. It’s an insult to women. I spoke to several women today at the Democratic National Convention who said it’s insulting John McCain would pick somebody—an affirmative-action candidate basically—who is not qualified.

    View video here

  • admin

    MJ, no video of Dana Bash’s response but here is how she answered:

    “That’s a very good question, and … my guess is that, perhaps, the line inside the McCain campaign would be, ‘If it were a man being picked who also had a baby… four months ago with Down syndrome, would you ask the same question?'”

  • carbynew

    Just like I thought, Obama and the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY do not respect women and this mysoginy and sexism is being sanctioned by the the DNC and DEMOCRATIC? leadership.

  • kostner

    Palin: I “Put Down the BlackBerries and Pick Up the Breast Pump”

    The brand new veep contender explains how she multi-tasks motherhood and the governor’s office to People magazine.

    I “do a couple of things different and still get it all done.”

    Her husband adds: “We’re an Alaska family that adapts.”

  • kostner

    The Palins and McCains Talk With People Magazine‘PEOPLE’ EXCLUSIVE: PHOTOS & FIRST INTERVIEW WITH JOHN MCCAIN & SARAH PALIN — ALONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES

    (NEW YORK) — In an exclusive interview, PEOPLE went backstage with the new Republican ticket, Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, and their families to talk about Palin’s readiness for the job, the challenges of juggling a high-powered job with the needs of five children — including an infant with Down Syndrome and a son in the Army about to head off to war in Iraq — and the campaign’s attempt to give Hillary Clinton voters one more chance to shatter the glass ceiling.

    “It’s Girl Power!” enthused Meghan McCain, who learned of her father’s top-secret pick only a few hours before the rest of the nation on Friday morning. “It’s my dream choice,” she told PEOPLE.

    Below is an excerpt from the interview. You can find full story on People.com shortly.

    On appealing to Hillary Clinton supporters: “Certainly in this election cycle, women are not finished yet. And women can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all,” says Gov. Palin.

    Sen. McCain: “I think that Sarah appeals to a lot of voters—I think because of her independence, because of her reform agenda and her record of balancing both family and service, is motivation to not just Clinton voters but to lots of voters.”

    On what some are calling Gov. Palin’s “short” resume, relative youth and readiness to be president, compared with Sen. Barack Obama:
    “I don’t think it’s a short resume. She first ran for office back in 1992. I don’t know what Senator Obama was doing then, but the first time she ran was 1992. That’s 16 years. I think that’s a pretty, pretty event-filled and record-filled resume.
    Interjects Gov. Palin: “I haven’t had too many years other than that to fill up yet.”

    So does she feel ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? “Absolutely. Yup, yup. Especially with a good team around us.”

    On whether she’ll be able to balance the vice-presidency with her family’s needs: “She’s heard that her whole life—the challenges of being a female mother in the work force,” says the governor’s husband, Todd Palin. “I remember the first time she ran for mayor on of her fellow council members told her you can’t run for mayor because you’ve got three negatives: Track, Bristol and Willow. Those are the three kids we had at the time. So, when you tell her that kind of stuff, she just gets fired up. We’re an Alaska family that adapts.”

    Gov. Palin, who is still nursing her son, tells PEOPLE she’s used to multi-tasking: “What I’ve had to do, though, is in the middle of the night, put down the Blackberries and pick up the breast pump. Do a couple of things different and still get it all done.”

    Adds Sen. McCain’s wife, Cindy: “Any woman who’s been in a situation where they’re working and have children know that you give 300 percent; no one will be slighted in any of this, least of all her baby. She has a lot of energy, she’s a woman with great drive and great vision and I think no one’s going to suffer in this process. We will all get it done.”

  • turndownobama-com

    kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
    I respect your opinion. But for me, as a man, I always admire woman politician with gutsy, intelligence, toughness. That’s the first criteria I want in a president.
    I admire Thatcher, and I wound’t support Hillary if I believe she’s just a typical Nancy Pelosi type feminist with no inner toughness. I doubt I will support any of the current democratic women candidates. Most of them are just not tough enough to be commnder in chief.
    Sarah Palin is in the same mold of Hillary, character wise… This is the first thing I’d consider …
    ==========

    kostner, I’m glad to hear that from you. I was getting the same vibe just from what little I’ve seen about Palin, which has mostly been comments this morning.

    Dunno about Thatcher, but I’ve never liked the really iron-faced women leaders like Meier and Sebilious…. What I like is Hillary’s bouncyness, sense of fun, competing with the men for the fun of it. Outrageous comments, irony, unexpected truth…. Palin’s speech this morning seemed to have a little of that, and seemed to be looking at solidarity among women of that sort, as just as importnat as their views on issues, or more so.

    It may sound woo-woo, but I think role-modeling that sort of woman may be even more important than electing the other kind of women.

  • magic007

    NO WAY, NO HOW and I will never vote for obama.

    HE is big PHONY……I will vote for Mccain..

    HRC 2012

  • wbboei

    Whatever way you look at it, No one NADA is talking about Obama.

    Zilch, nada, zip, end of story
    00000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    a 100 million dollar extravaganza reduced to a forgotten memory and as someone said a couple days ago re dina washington what a diffence a day–and a new headline makes. All that is left of it a wedding cake picture of bambi and scoopjaw in the morning paper. This will undercut bambi’s thunder (an oxymoron–no! I dont mean biden) in the sunday news cycle. The American people dont really care about his bullshit speeches, know that is all the pundits care about because they are in the hot air business too. This gets back to the republican sweet spot and it is values. But the key here will make it go big tent this time. Inclusive–that is the key.

  • basil9

    kostner,

    Oh i am LMFAO at the dems directing the ‘affirmative action candidate’ label at Palin!
    They must be scared sh!tless!
    Talk radio is saying if the dems try to trash, destroy, mock and destroy ANOTHER woman candidate they’re toast.
    h4t,
    You Goooooo girl! 😀
    i HOPE you posted that fantastic rant over at huffypoo!

  • moononpluto

    Amazing that the Dems destroyed the one woman who could give them victory only to be destroyed a woman on the Republican team.

  • carbynew

    Now the Dems have to run on Obambi resume.

    Go McCain/Palin08

  • basil9

    wbboei!

    SCOOPJAW!!!!

    You are on a roll today!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Ladies, please take your seats in the front of the bus! Sarah is driving.

    LMAO!!!

  • moononpluto

    Affirmative Action candidate.

    What the fuck is Obama then dumbfucks, do you regularly see a black guy running for President then.

  • turndownobama-com

    OkieAtty Says:
    one reason I want McCain to win now that the farce that was Denver is over is because I want the DNC leadership upended. I want Howie gone, burned in effigy. I want Brazile exiled to Pluto or some cold as shit planet with no hope to ever return
    If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.
    ====================

    That’s my impression. To heal the party, which has been nominating losers (or running losing campaigns, eg Brazile 2000) we need to cut out all of the dead diseased wood, the cancer. And my impression is that only a big McGovern-size defeat of their candidate will break up the DNC enough that we can throw out the bad pieces and pick up the good pieces.

    Restoring an honest two-party system seems more important to me than whatever different results over the next 4 years we might get from McC/P vs O/B. And Mc is trying to reform the GOP, so by supporting him we’re improving both parties.

  • basil9

    moonpluto,
    What I find tragicly ironic is that it was the repubs who initially demonized HRC in the ’90’s and now it’s they who are benefitting from the copycat dems doing the same thing.
    The repubs get to be in the pious position of scolding BO for smearing the same woman candidate they’ve been trying to destroy for the past 20 years.

    I guess that’s what happens to trailblazers like Hillary but WE WON’T FORGET!!!!!!!
    And to her credit, Palin acknowledged she wouldn’t be where she is without HRC and gerry. That’s a hel-uv-a-lot more than Cruella and Pooplosi ever said.

  • moononpluto

    Well lets see MO try and use the line “if she can’t run her own house” and see Palin nail her boney ass to the target.

  • texan4hillary

    thatcher is a brilliant politician and quite funny actually. ive seen many in depth interviews with her on cspan. she has that brit dry wit. she has become a hero to the youth in britian. dont agree with some of the things she did-but if she werent so ill she would let the us have it about hillary i know. thatcher is a big critic of amerian poltics-she says she would never do a american style debate. she says the best ay is to sit and be interviewed on live tv for 2 hours at least one on one. and that is how she ran. thatcher is a leader who always interests me. and she said before that the brits were not nearly as sexist as americans bc brit had several queens etc who rules and were very beloved. maybe those itnerviews are on the cspan site. watch em u wont regret it

  • HillaryforTexas

    You do know what McCain has just handed us with his pick? Not only a CRUSHING defeat of the DNC and Obama, but a defeat at the hands of the WOMEN of this country.

    He has just handed us the opportunity to have CLOUT, and that clout in the future can be put to good use in VERY Democratic ways. If women swing this election in a BIG way this time, I doubt very seriously that EITHER party will be throwing us under the bus again.

    Maybe, in the future, we will be listened to. Maybe, in the future, Hillary or one like her can run, and we will not be escorted to the back of the bus.

  • basil9

    yeah,

    It’s quite obvious palin keeps hubby happy in that department.

    Often, when people criticize others it’s because of negative identification with issues in their own lives.
    I’ll bet the bank Scoopjaw has some unresolved housekeeping problems of her own.

    👿

  • moononpluto

    I think the Puma’s and Clinton women are moving on mass to McCain and Palin, I’ve just been over to the forums ands it ecstasy over Palin there.

  • basil9

    h4t,

    And I’ll bet HRC ends up with a terrific position in a Johnny-mac administration.

  • Norma Desmond

    admin…if I screw this up, will you please embed to remind US why we are here, and why we will be here all the way to 2012 and beyond!

  • HillaryforTexas

    fred, on August 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pm Said:
    The Party of Hate and Sexism
    What is, however, most interesting and disturbing about the pick has been the response from some on the left. I spent the day on and off perusing some of the leftie websites seeing how they’d react. The fair criticisms (like experience) are drowned out by the overt rage and misogyny of so-called progressives. Here, you have the party of “tolerance” and “diversity” saying she got the job because of sexual favors for McCain. And that is the most benevolent of some of the comments from known hate sites like the DailyKos (also known for anti-semitism). Go there and read the comments if you don’t believe me.
    Here we get a shocking moment of honesty and transparency from the left. See, they don’t believe a woman can make it on their own without sexual favors. They’ve already put up websites commemorating the “VPILF” (figure it out). Here is what this should tell you about the left and why this election matters:
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  • Norma Desmond

    ooops….will send url…i don’t know how to embed LOL!

  • texan4hillary

    meir was a neat leader as well.but as pelosi foudn out hen she ran to address the israel knesset-meir aint very popular in israel. the yom kippur badly hurt meir. by not doign a premetive strike the arabs sneak attacked israel. many died. and many still hold her accontable. a commission ruled she was not guilty in the matter-her advisors were. but she was the mother of israel. she got kids out of those dp camps, managed labr and aducation, saved ben gurion’s life in a bomb attack etc.. hell of a woman. note most female leaders come from parlimentry govts. the american way makes it harder for a woman to get elected.

  • Norma Desmond

    I think Maureen Dowd and Jack Cafferty should date.

    They would have a marvelous time with each other.

  • HillaryforTexas

    LOL Norma! And….ewwwwwwwwwww!

  • Norma Desmond

    😀

  • freckles

    In this election, we should ask our candidates, esp. from the house if they support eliminating caucuses, the DNC, and Nancy Pelosi. Vote against ones who can’t see the light.

    If McCain wins, think of what comes next!

    We let it be known that Dems who participated in that DNC committee who stole many of our votes have to be out. Caucuses are out. Sexism is out. Standing on principles (pro-choice e.g.) is in.
    Cooperation when possible is in. Don’t just say no. Start solving problems. Will Boone Pickens plan work? No? You got something better? It’s country before party or we’ll vote you out.

    If we can put the reform ticket in, we the people can get back in charge.

  • wbboei

    Amazing that the Dems destroyed the one woman who could give them victory only to be destroyed a woman on the Republican team.
    ———————————————-
    I did not see Hillary last night. I heard she was not feeling well. This was a difficult week for her. The speech was a tour de force. Bills speech said what I am sure she felt needed to be said to heal the party.

    The tough part was the roll call vote, the acute disappointment of her loyal delegates, the death of her dear friend Stephanie, the murder of another good friend who was head of the Arkansas, the betrayals, the absense of leverage short of destroying the party, the insufferable arrogance of bambi, the constant surveillance by big media and all that might have been.

    If she was feeling well right now I would be surprised. It is a good thing that the parade has moved on for the time being. Someone here said this would be a tough week and that was an understatement. God bless her for going though this with such dignity and grace.

    The country needs her more than ever before. I hope in the fulsomeness of time it has the good sense to realize that as much as we here do.

  • basil9

    Norma,

    Water spurt godd@mn but that it one scary thought!

    Dowdy Cadaverdy! Ewwwwww…….

  • Illinois Underground

    August 29th, 2008 at 6:16 pm wbboei Says:

    Well said, wbboei.

  • basil9

    freckles,
    let’s start a TO-GO list.

    1 – Pooplosi
    2 – Deaniac
    3 – Cruella
    4 – Germond
    5 – Alice (whasshername)
    6 – Clyburn
    7 – Wexler
    Oops. running out of box space. please add

  • Norma Desmond

    I just hate to think the ridicule that the DNC Failed Leadership will rain down on Hillary when Obama tanks. Let’s hope she stays out there and campaigns for BO and lets the Republican machine go after him. There is enough WroNG with Obama, THE Obama’s, that no one needs to do anything but sit and watch.

    Although I am delighted McCain has moved women’s issues forward by picking Palin, I will still wait and see what’s next.

    One this IS CERTAIN THOUGH….I will NOT vote for Obama

  • moononpluto

    I’m logging off for the night guys.

    See you tomorrow morning.

  • oklahomahills

    Is Clyburn on a mission to drive women voters over to the R’s, or is he really this stupid?

  • Illinois Underground

    Work’s done. I’m back…. but there’s just too much here to process and certainly to comment on. But, thanks everyone for analyzing and aggregating at lightspeed.

    Bravo to the Big Pink knowledge machine! Our path is pretty clear: we must do for the Dem party what John McCain is doing for the Republican party. He’s showing us the way. Restoring common sense and balance, and country before party. We have the power. We must use it wisely.

    Hillary 2012! Vive la resistance! Vive la revolution!

  • wbboei

    I think Maureen Dowd and Jack Cafferty should date. They would have a marvelous time with each other.
    ——————————————–
    Yes, and if that happened and nature took its course, there would be no more right to life movement. Like Justice Holmes said in one of his more obscure decisions: three generations of idiots is enough. In this case one will suffice-thank you.

  • Norma Desmond

    oklahomahills….

    I pick Door number 2

  • Illinois Underground

    Goodnight, Moon! :-)

  • Norma Desmond

    wbboei – ROFLMAO!

  • Illinois Underground

    oklahoma hills – seems he’s that stupid. And mean. And (probably) corrupt. And…….

  • basil9

    norma,

    I HOPE HRC does nothing else for BO, especially campaigning for him.

  • Berkeley Vox

    I hope that Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Axelrod, Brazile and the rest of that gang realize how their legacies are going to be affected by 2008….

  • Illinois Underground

    Basil, Norma: I hope that Hillary “has a headache” for about the next 9 weeks.

  • basil9

    Oh Jeeeeezzzzz!!!!

    I’m scaring myself at the thought of what the spawn of such a union would look like.

    once again, ewwwwwww……

  • Emjay

    to:

    John Roberts @ CNN

    You know what John, Gov Palin’s relationship with her new born child, other than what she chooses to tell us, is none of our business.

    Now, move away from CNN to Entertainment tonight or some such, and get out of the faces of decent people like us, who don’t want you in our homes, much less on the sidewalks in front of our houses.

    Remember, it is none of your business.

  • HillaryforTexas

    HILLARY WE LOVE YOU. If you are reading, we love you. Say the word in 2012, and we are there. I know this must be bittersweet for you, as well as for us.

    I have never seen such grace and such strength as you exhibited this past year. You remain my highest sheroe. I know you asked us if we were in it for you, or in it for the ideals you espouse. It was both, because you embody my ideals better than any person on this planet, and I cannot separate the two. I cannot ignore either your beliefs or your woman-ness, because both are part of me.

    Is Sarah Palin the embodiement of my ideals? Not by a million miles. But she may be the only means by which I and other women say, loud and clear – NEVER AGAIN. Never again will what happened to you happen to another woman in this country.

    NEVER AGAIN.

    I fight to make sure that the next time you or any other woman runs, that lesson will have been learned by my party, and by my country.

  • basil9

    illinois,

    I agree it’s about time for her to become ‘indisposed.’

  • freckles

    Does anyone know how I can email Paul Begala?

    His “Is McCain out of his mind” article was sexist at its core. But it was also senseless. He writes that she is dangerously inexperienced, and McC old.

    And Obama is experienced? He’s running for Chief Executive – his main job – with zero exec experience.
    He has already flubbed several foreign policy problems. He has accomplished ????…tell me again, Paul. He’s had success in winning 2 gimme elections and he ????…tell me again, Paul.

    Ohhh….and, BTW, BO is running for prez, not VP. He will have no time to learn. And you don’t find that dangerous? Why not? Because he’s a man?

  • basil9

    h4t,

    You got me sniffling again.

    😥

  • wbboei

    I apologize for what I just said@6:23 With Sara Palins situation in the news now with the downs symdrome it was the wrong thing to say. Mea culpa.

  • debbie

    basil

    after BHO loses the presidency, he must not be allowed to run for any office again, especially his IL Senate seat

  • S

    in the meantime…Hillary for Senate Majority Leader?…that sounds good to me…Admin, is Hill on board with this?

    if so, let’s start pushing hard…

    the Obama Dem party cannot be trusted to advance Hillary’s power or strength in any way…it would be up to us…

    Hume just said…’another crack in the ceiling’

    Hillary pushed the door open and now others are walking thru…

    Go hillary…Hillary’s voice must be on the national scene…whether Obama wins or loses…

  • basil9

    debbie,

    Agreed.

    Wbboei,

    I suspect even hardcore right-to-lifers have their limits.

    😈

  • Norma Desmond

    Basil, re h4t, me too…and I just watched Chelsea’s intro again. BIG SNIFF AND PRIDE!

  • wbboei

    I agree with what everyone is saying. The speech at the convention can be played on video tape in the swing states. This has been a long and gruelling primary and she deserves a rest. Furthermore, if it is true that the republicans will be releasing these whitey tapes starting in mid september one per week for five weeks, she is the one who should be on vacation in Hawaii. How can she possible defend those statements?
    If I am right this will be the dirtiest campaign in history, and she has too much class to get sucked into the vortex.

  • Norma Desmond

    Well…we have Obama and his nasty backers: Dean/Pelosi et al to thank for reigniting the women’s movement in this country.

    NEVER AGAIN will we be taken for granted, assumed less-than, called names in the media, or by others of our colleagues or peers or politicians

    without saying NO DEAL.

  • basil9

    Norma,
    i have been so depressed this week, internalizing everything thrown at HRC and getting sick over it.
    Today, after hearing and seeing Palin, i felt that HRC’s fight had been worth it even if it was to the benefit of the repubs.

    Like S said, HRC opened the door and there will be no turning back the flood of qualified, competent, intelligent and prinicipled women who step through. I believe HRC will be forever honored and remembered for leading the charge and taking the arrows for all of us.

    She is our American Braveheart.

  • CountTheVotes

    STATEMENT FROM SEN. HILLARY CLINTON ON SEN. MCCAIN’S VP SELECTION

    “We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain. While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”

    *****
    To Texas4Hillary’s comment. Isn’t it nice that Hillary has the respect to call Palin “Governor” as she deserves.

  • wbboei

    Emjay: I have not sent yet. Got waylayed on something. Will get it to you this weekend. Trying to get M on a nation-wide radio program–re voting machines. This paper will be an entre.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Pat Buchanan is blasting out
    The DNC “DISSED” Hillary Clinton. and said the Dems should be Shamed for Dissing the woman that was the leader in their party.
    GO PAT!!! whoot whoot!!!!

    You go Pat, talking about how the Dems dissed Hillary, and Sarah should go to her office in D.C. and thank Hillary for what she did.

  • debbie

    well for all you women in here that think Palin’s husband is a hunk…I gotta say this about her..whooohooo (:

  • HillaryforTexas

    The whole family is remarkably attractive, debbie. It helps!

  • wbboei

    Count the votes: To Texas4Hillary’s comment. Isn’t it nice that Hillary has the respect to call Palin “Governor” as she deserves.
    ——————————————–
    Hillary is solid gold. Or a better metaphor the Hope Diamond for out future. There are too many children in the world and not enough adults. If she had done what bambi did and unleashed her forces this week it would have destroyed the party. So she took it on herself and said this is my defeat (those were her words) and not let it destroy the party.

    When Hillary says this election is not about me she means it. When Obama says it-as he did in his speech you know it is just another lie.

  • NewMexicoFan

    There is an old saying, when God closes one door, he opens another. He has opened another for us today, and there will be many more door open for HRC, to include the Presidency.

  • kostner

    Video: Palin knocks Biden on drilling, ties it to national security

    h t t p : / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GE11URmmnc

  • Berkeley Vox

    Edwards and his runaway ego just can’t stay away until after the election, can they? lol…

    ——————
    John Edwards to emerge from seclusion for speech

    By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer
    Friday, August 29, 2008

    (08-29) 14:35 PDT Raleigh, N.C. (AP) —

    John Edwards will emerge from seclusion and speak next month at Hofstra University in New York, taking the stage exactly one month after admitting to an extramarital affair, the school said Friday. But his wife Elizabeth has canceled what was to be a joint appearance.

    A representative for the former Democratic presidential candidate confirmed Friday that Edwards will speak alone at the school on Sept. 8, said Hofstra spokesman Stuart Vincent.

    Edwards and his wife were originally billed as the first speakers in a university series on the 2008 election. But that was before Edwards admitted to cheating on Elizabeth with a filmmaker hired by his political action committee.

    A spokeswoman for John and Elizabeth Edwards did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

    Edwards hasn’t spoken publicly since his Aug. 8 admission to the affair in an interview with ABC News, and no other speaking engagements before the Hofstra speech have been announced. In a statement issued the day of the interview, Edwards said he had made a “a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs.”

    Edwards added that he did not plan to speak about the affair again. Both he and Elizabeth have since declined requests for an interview, and neither appeared this week at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

    The couple are still scheduled to appear together Sept. 23 at Salem State College in Massachusetts, college spokesman Jim Glynn said Friday. Edwards also has plans to speak at the University of Illinois in October. Christine Messina-Boyer, director of women’s health at Cooper University Hospital, also said an agent for Elizabeth Edwards recently confirmed she would appear there at the end of September.

    Edwards’ populist themes, which he carried from his first presidential bid in 2004 to this year’s campaign, led him to a second place finish in the Iowa caucuses. But he never finished better than third after Iowa, and dropped out of the presidential race before the Super Tuesday primaries.

    The former North Carolina senator was pushing his poverty message in 2006 when he hired rookie videographer Rielle Hunter to shoot videos of him on the stump. Edwards said the affair with Hunter began and ended that year, although Hunter was seen on the campaign trail up until the final days of 2006.

    Both Edwards and Hunter have denied reports that he is the father of her six-month daughter.

  • wbboei

    well for all you women in here that think Palin’s husband is a hunk…I gotta say this about her..whooohooo (:
    ——————————————-
    Debbie: on that recommendation I am prepared to cast my ballot. All 10 of them–the original and 9 more I purchased over the internet from a counterfeitter in chicago who is just getting warmed up/

  • Norma Desmond

    Admin: Gloria Allred at the end of our march in Denver:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlqkKKJe2xQ

    and Gloria and the ERA at our Celebration

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3vftT9Hunc

  • moononpluto

    back, couldnt sleep

  • confloyd

    Pat Buchanan usually said good things about Hillary and for that I was always grateful.

    Did anyone see the interview with Bambi and Biden?? The interviewer was asking them about Sarah. THey both looked like that had a stomach virus!! They are scared shitless.

    How are they going to attack Sarah without pissing off Hillary’s supporters even worse?? I bet Hillary knew of MCCain choice all along and she led the dumbasses down the path like a calf to the slaughter.

  • wbboei

    John Edwards to emerge from seclusion for speech
    ———————————————–
    Oh oh. I sense a teaching moment coming on.

    Nobody knows
    The trouble I’ve seen
    Nobody knows
    My sorrow

    Save it John. Go back into the seculsion of your 22000 sq foot masoleum.

  • JanH

    John Roberts is Canadian born. I first learned of him when he became a VJ for Much Music, our national version of a music video television station. This is where he interviewed rock stars and came across as if he was much better/smarter than any of his fellow co-workers.

    Emjay,

    It looks like he is borrowing from his past experiences. He should be ashamed.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    hey, Im just aw’d in a sickening way, I’m reading these posts but….

    NOT EVEN ONE WORD ABOUT OBAMA’S SPEECH!!!!

    NOT EVEN A MENTION FROM OBAMA ABOUT MLK, JR and RACE ISSUES ON HIS FAMOUS SPEECH

  • moononpluto

    Wolf Blitzer (the bastard) just tried the most loaded question CNN and got slapped down.

    He asked “why has John McCain committed political suicide by picking a woman with no foreign experience”

    The reply was “well she has more experience than him, he’s been in the senate 4 years and spent half of it running for President, before that he was a community organizer, she’s been a mayor, a gov and a councilwoman”

  • CountTheVotes

    The Republicans are calling the UnDemocratic Frat Party on its sexism. The primaries got us used to the world being turned upside down, so here’s more where that came from:

    americassentinel.com/2008/08/29/sexism-permeates-democratic-websites/

    At The Huffington Post, the headline screams: Quick Bio: Alaska Governor For Two Years… “Hockey Mom”… Got Into Politics After Joining PTA… Miss Alaska Runner Up… Had Fifth Child In April… Seriously, that’s her relevant political bio? That’s not a political bio, that’s talking points meant to belittle not just her but every woman in America. It echoes the liberal talking points of the day: mother = questionable background. PTA member = questionable background. Pageant participant = questionable background.

    Furthermore, the liberal talking heads this morning were all aflutter with thoughts of her taking on Biden in a VP debate, apparently assuming there is no way that this “beauty queen” could compete with the towering intellect of their old white guy.

    It is both unbelievable and yet somehow expected. Democrats are really nothing but Democrats. They aren’t enlightened. They aren’t for women. They aren’t for minorities. They aren’t for freedom of speech. They are for Democrats and the exhaustive and unquenchable thirst for power.

    This time, the people aren’t going to buy it.

  • Norma Desmond

    Admin – thanks! 😀

  • moononpluto

    Imagine the utter humiliation when she takes Biden and it looks like she’s already started.

  • Norma Desmond

    CountTheVotes: THANKS for posting that. I wonder if we have not all been duped for years.

    My republican friends seem to think so.

  • Norma Desmond

    I would like to know how the Dems are REALLY going to argue the “experience” thing with Obama at the helm

  • basil9

    I was peeking at NQ and on one of the threads most of the men confessed to getting teary-eyed when Palin’s name was announced.

    Awwwww……. :-)

    Also, anyoneknow if this is true?? Did JM play HRC’s Swan SONG – “who says you can’t go home!” during the veep announcement?

  • moononpluto

    “Holy cow. I’m just kind of speechless on the whole thing.” — Chuck Heath, Palin’s father.

  • Norma Desmond

    HA! Bay Buchanan tearing Campbell Brown a new a-H

  • HillaryforTexas

    dora, I think Obama threw the AA’s and MLK under the bus with everyone else. They served their purpose.

  • moononpluto

    Yup i knew the republicans would slam bambi for ignoring Hillary

    Mike Huckabee

    Sarah Palin is a pleasant surprise for those of us who had hoped that Senator McCain would pick a principled and authentic conservative pro-life leader. Sarah Palin is both principled and authentic. As a Governor, she also brings an important balance of understanding of the critical domestic issues that is needed and that the Democrats have ignored with their ticket. Governor Palin is smart, authentic, tough, and a dynamic choice that will remind women that they are not welcome on the Democrat’s ticket, they have a place with Republicans.

  • basil9

    norma,
    great vids!

    Did you get pics of gloria with the gag on?

  • moononpluto

    Overheard several women today leaving the Democratic National Convention who said…..And I give a shiite about what any of them says, WHY? I’m embarassed to admit, this could be the first VP I ever fell in love with.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!

  • nikki22

    Norma Desmond,

    What’s Buchanan saying?

  • Norma Desmond

    Basil, no, that was at the California Delegates “convention” where everyone was told how they would vote

  • JanH

    justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
    hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!
    ————————————–
    Definitely!

  • CountTheVotes

    # moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Overheard several women today leaving the Democratic National Convention who said…..And I give a shiite about what any of them says, WHY? I’m embarassed to admit, this could be the first VP I ever fell in love with.

    ******

    well, that’s because any Hillary delegate already bolted from the DNC before the Fraud’s speech. So, no wonder – they’re just listening at women in the Obama echo-chamber.

  • henry

    More good news. A gay friend of mine who was towing the party line after being a Hillary supporter just called me filled with outrage about bambi allowing us to see loved ones in the hospital. I didn’t watch the speech. Not sure what bambi said, but my friend is a clinical psycholgist and was offended that of all the things denied to gay couples bambi took the one that is equated with sickness. Let’s not forget if a couple spends 20 years together the surviving partner has to pay a huge inheritence tax as the relationship is not recognized. A husband or wife pays nothing.

  • Norma Desmond

    # justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!

    HERE HERE!

    nikki
    Bay Buchanan is just basically telling Campbell she is full of Sheet tanking for Obama while Palin has at least got administrative experience AND has ACTUALLY worked across the aisle to bring reform…while Bambi just “talks about change and has been running for President for two years, Palin has actually be making changes and raising a family”

  • CountTheVotes

    Geraldine Ferraro reacting to Palin’s choice “I am really pleased.”

    audio here:

    blogsforjohnmccain.com/geraldine-ferraro-reacts-selection-sarah-palin-vp-video-82908

  • basil9

    Found this great quote at alegre’s which sums up perfectly the way women have reacted to the sexism from BM, BO and the DNC.

    “They may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel.”
    — Carl W. Buechner

  • Norma Desmond

    The MSM is making a huge mistake…arguing which candidate, the Prez or the VEEP is LESS experienced!

    LMAO!

    The Dems are toast.

  • Norma Desmond

    WOW Basil, that’s a knock out

  • basil9

    Wonder how the “bros’ feel about the new “hos” in the house.

    👿

  • birdgal

    Admin: posting at 4:29 p.m. of McCain and Palin visiting the troops was very powerful, and such a contrast to the arrogant and narcissistic empty suit.

    Norma: That posting of Hillary’s speech, had be in tears. She is such a treasure for this country, and I am so very angry with way the democratic party and the media have treated her. It is disgusting and unforgiveable. Palin seems like a tough cookie, I hope she can hold up with the media attention. Her husband seems to have a good attitude.

  • debbie

    on experience…just who does BHO think he’s running against or is VP subliminally where he thinks he should be

  • henry

    i am not a woman but watching Senator Clinton utter those words about acclimation on Wed drove me from disgust to blind rage at the Democratic Party. From my perspective it was cruel especially after listenning to Arkansas give all or most of its delegates to that mangy cur.

  • CountTheVotes

    birdgal – I agree. Symbolically Palin is a great choice, but she still will have to go through the fire and the microscope that the media will put her under. THAT is also a telling sign of the pressure she’ll have to endure as CIC.

    I hope that unlike Biden, she is NOT a gaffe machine.

  • carbynew

    BO is believing his own press, which we know is a bunch of lies.

  • henry

    basil9
    well she has already been compared to a porn star on obamabot hate sites. So I think it is very safe to say they are terrified of her and have to reduce her. A Freudian analysis of bambi’s followers would be fascinating.

  • JanH

    Bo is just trying to get back into the news cycle. He surely expected today to be all about his exaltant appearance last night. 😉

  • confloyd

    WE all have a lot riding on Palin, I think she will do fine.

    I wonder if Gloria went home to California and is planning on keeping her mouth shut about the thuggery at the convention?? Something tells me NO! She is not one to go gently into that goodnight!

  • HillaryforTexas

    FOX says their poll – only 3% of women worried about abortion this election.

    We wimmins are TIRED of both sides beating us up over that one.

  • kostner

    Nancy Pelosi on McCain’s veep selection: ‘Palin is not the right choice’By Jeff Mitchell
    Category: President, LocalTags: Republican National Convention, Sarah Palin
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) issued the following statement Friday on Sen. John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate:

    “The selection of a vice presidential candidate is one of the most significant and telling decisions a presidential candidate can make.

    John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin raises serious questions about his judgment. Why, when the country is fighting two wars, facing an uncertain economy and an energy crisis, did Senator McCain make the choice that he did?

    Why, with so many other qualified women and men in his party, did John McCain choose Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin is not the right choice. She shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies.

    John McCain and Sarah Palin will not bring the American people the New Direction they need.”

  • henry

    Ditto on gay rights!!!!

  • marie3548

    edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/roe-vs-wade-obamas-ace-in-the-hole/
    The SCOTUS, Roe v. Wade and women’s issues was the BO campaigns “ace in the hole” according to Chuck Todd from MSNBO network. The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.” THAT is a direct quote from the BO campaign via Todd.

    The bot ar out in full force today preaching ther perils of roe v wade

  • Norma Desmond

    LOVE THIS

    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency,” said Obama spox Bill Burton.

    Palin was a Council Woman. Where was Obama a Councilman?

    Palin was a mayor of a small town. How many citizens lived in the city where Obama was mayor?

    Palin is the Governor of Alaska. Which state has Obama governed?

    Palin is responsible for her state’s budget. Which state’s budget has Obama been responsible for?

    Palin is the Commander in Chief of Alaska’s National Guard. Which state’s National Guard has Obama commanded?

  • basil9

    h4t,

    Between ru487 and the morning after pill, new and improved methods of contraception, I truly believe the r v w isssue is not nearly as worrisome as it was 30 years ago.

    There are options now.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I have posted on other topics that an organziation must remain flexible to survive, and take corrective action when necessary.

    GUESS WHAT THE REPS DID TODAY

    I just have one more thing to add:

    O does not understand who he is up against. He might be 72, but son, he knows how things work in a political world, and your hoods and DNC friends and you Blew it.

  • basil9

    henry,

    I don’t mean to offend anyone but many AA men are even more sexist than their white and latina counterparts.

    This is glaringly obvious by the way women are portrayed in rap lyrics and videos.

  • texan4hillary

    admin-
    msm screams now for hillary to run out and fight palin. we need to persuade hillary to stop it. let biden do it. or claire. or the others.

  • birdgal

    Kostner posted an interview with Palin on the Money show, and she was very intelligent, articulate, well-informed, and did not stumble over her words. Her knowledge of the subject was breathtaking and complete. There is substance and potential for this woman. The posting is at 6:57 p.m.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Marie, that makes me FURIOUS!!!!!

    The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.”

  • Norma Desmond

    Don’t care for the title the Youtuber is using, but the Big Dawg tells us the score!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4lHJ_dL24k&feature=email

  • debbie

    kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    here is what one Hillary supporter said to Pelosi statment
    from hillaryclintonforum
    *********
    Please. allow me to re-phrase Nancy’s statement with a few substitutions of my own:
    Quote:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: “The selection of a presidential candidate is one of the most significant and telling decisions a party can make. The DNC’s coronation of Barak Obama raises serious questions about their judgment. Why, when the country is fighting two wars, facing an uncertain economy and an energy crisis, did Dean/Pelosi/Brazile/Kennedy/Kerry make the choice that they did? Why, with so many other qualified women and men in his party, did the DNC coronate Barak Obama? Barak Obama is not the right choice. He shares Donna Brazile’s commitment to overturning the will of the Democrats and implementing improbable economic policies. Barak Obama and Joe Biden will not bring the American people the New Direction they need.”
    *****************

  • moononpluto

    This coming from a woman with a 9% approval rating, she can just fuck off, i dont want to hear it.

  • carbynew

    Feminists for Life thrilled to see Sarah Palin as vice presidential nominee

    Alexandria, VA, Aug 29, 2008 / 06:15 pm (CNA).- This morning Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska was selected by Sen. John McCain to serve as his vice presidential nominee. Palin brings with her several unique credentials, but one of the most notable is that she is a proud member of Feminists for Life, according to the group’s president Serrin Foster.

    In an interview with CNA on Friday, Foster explained that her group normally doesn’t disclose its membership, but since Gov. Palin freely spoke about it to the Anchorage Daily News in August of 2006, she could confirm that Palin joined in 2006.

    Sarah Palin also revealed in the same article that she has ‘adamantly supported’ the pro-life cause since ‘I first understood, as a child, the atrocity of abortion.’

    Gov. Sarah Palin is not just spouting rhetoric regarding her dedication to protecting life. On April 18, 2008, Palin gave birth to her fifth child Trig Paxon Van Palin, despite her doctor’s suggestion that she abort him because he has Down’s Syndrome.

    Palin’s beliefs mesh well with Feminists for Life’s goal of “systematically eliminating the root causes that drive women to abortion” and “doing so through women centered solutions.” The vice presidential nominee explained that she believes “no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child.”

    While Palin, a non-denominational Protestant, is anti-abortion, she is in support of contraception, a position that lies beyond the scope of FFL’s mission.

    The selection of Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate led Foster to reflect on what the event means for women and the feminist movement.

    “One can only wonder how Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton would feel to see this: Hillary speaking on the anniversary of the 88th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. And now, Sarah Palin two days later, becoming the first pro-life feminist to be chosen as a major party’s vice presidential nominee.”

    FFL’s president also pointed out that her group has seen unprecedented success in recent weeks because “the platforms of both major U.S. political parties incorporate key pieces of FFL’s unique message.”

    The Democratic Party platform added language this year that states: “The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman’s decision to have a child by ensuring access to and availability of programs for pre and post natal health care, parenting skills, income support, and caring adoption programs.”

    Ms. Foster was particularly surprised and happy to learn that the proposed platform for the Republican Party will include the phrase she coined—“Women deserve better than abortion,” she told CNA.

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13670
    *****************************************************
    Like I said before, the Democrats are moving to the right on this issue and it seem Obama would have Limited this to court favor with the religious Left.

    The Democratic? Taliban Party has millions of Americans who are pro-life and still vote Democrats but if John McCain is able to move the Republican Party towards the center he WILL pick up more Democrats and Independents.

    The Democratic? Taliban Party are idiots and LOSERS the more they attack Palin the more they will more more voters over to McCain.

  • henry

    And as I said before I believe that McCain has found waffles achillies HILL. Bigger than Palin is the McCain camp seems to understand bambi’s lack of humor>Esp when it comes to himself. Hillary is very self aware and acknowledges her own shortcomings. In Living History she mentions her laugh and her hair repeatedly. Were as the annointed cannot be criticized, and when he does respond it is from a teleprompter.

    Again I say thankyou Country first and Gov Palin has just made it easy for me to cast my first ever republican vote.

  • Norma Desmond

    moononpluto

    well said !

    😀

    ROFL

  • CountTheVotes

    # texan4hillary Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    admin-
    msm screams now for hillary to run out and fight palin. we need to persuade hillary to stop it. let biden do it. or claire. or the others.

    ******
    this sounds like “mommy, mommy, please do my homework or I’ll get an F in school.”

    as I said before, when Hillary goes out on the trail, the Republicans will merely compliment her and say, she is experienced and smart and should’ve been on the Democratic ticket, and it’ll only remind Hillary’s supporters that BO and the DNC dissed Hillary, and now want her to go out there and iron their shirts. NO WAY. NO Bama.

  • confloyd

    Am I reading they are bringing out Elizabeth and John now. Oh boy, they have to be scared and I bet Hillary told them to kiss her ass!

    They know we all respected Elizabeth, so they are going to bring this poor woman back up on the national stage for everyone to gauk at. Ridiculous! Obama and the DNC is toast!!

  • henry

    Hill4Texas
    pretty much the same thing with gays. we can throw them under the bus in Carolina when doing a gospel tour because we know they have no where else to go. Think again. McCain knows that the odds of passing a constitutional amendment are almost nil. Leaving it up to states is brilliant. What group of people tends to have the highest education level and the most disposable income.

  • moononpluto

    This all boils down to the plan that they never thought McCain or Repubs would ever in a million years pull a woman VP.

    They never planned for it and now they have no idea how to handle it. They thought that with Hillary out of the way, the women would all fall into line and now that scheme has blown up in their faces.

  • carbynew

    HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    Marie, that makes me FURIOUS!!!!!

    The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.”
    *****************************************************
    That wasn’t a secret…Team Obama and the Democratic? Taliban Party has no RESPECT for Women and their contribution to the party.

    I knew they were going to throw out those old chestnuts of Roe vs Wade and the Supreme Court and they would do NOTHING to court our votes because the assume we had no place to go.

    BUT the fact is YES WE CAN vote for McCain/Palin ticket because McCain is earning our votes without pandersing and telling us how to think.

    Go McCain!! Remember Martin Luther King was a Republican and the Democratic? Taliban Party used SEXISM and MYSOGINY as a political tactic that set Women rights back decades.

    You don’t reward that kind of behavior that has been going on for years.

  • moononpluto

    I think McCains learning from his British counterpart. The British conservatives, went pro gay and somewhat acceptable limited abortion and it payed dividends. They are now poised to retake the British govt.

  • debbie

    you can vote at Laura Ingraham

    Will Palin draw a significant number of female Hillary supporters to McCain?

    http://www.lauraingraham.com/

    scroll down its on the left side

  • NewMexicoFan

    CountTheVotes, just as we have said before, when we saw her after she had suspended her campaign, all we saw was this POW with a gun to her head being forced to do things.

    O is a man, as I remember, Brazille said they did not need women, they were going to do this with new voters.

    So go forth and do this. The rest of us bitter, small town people, clinging to our religion are going to vote for McCain, and Gov Sarah Palin.

    If you expect HRC to fix this for you, think again. We said all along this was larger than HRC, that is was the disrespect that the DNC and your hood, and you showed for women.

    We know a captive when we see one. All it will do is garner our resolve to not elect you. Cheating does not go down well in a Democracy. But then I guess you missed Civics class, or forgot it.

  • confloyd

    moononpluto, the DNC and their star are so enamered with him that that hadn’t notice the opposition was planning a comeback. THey are lost, they don’t want to make all us little women mad as well as all those gun totin, red necks. It is scramble time in Bambi’s world today.

    I could see it written all over the faces of Biden and Obama today, their scart!

  • CountTheVotes

    moononpluto – with McCain, the Republicans are learning how to rebrand themselves. i think i said this earlier, but they had nowhere to grow with their base, and it’s time they became more progressive on things to capture a new generation and to bring back women to their base.

  • CountTheVotes

    NewMexicoFan – I agree. Hillary has been coerced. The acclamation during the Roll Call…there is no way after so many of us worked so hard to Get Out the Vote and to make sure everyone was counted, and to do our best to make sure people were not disenfranchised during the caucuses…

    only to have our votes completely dismissed and unrepresented at the sham of a roll call. The Clintons would not have approved of that – they were coerced.

  • moononpluto

    Wow 84% on that site predict a massive shift of support to McCain from Clinton supporters

  • Paula

    Top Ten Surprises in Barack Obama’s Democratic National Convention Address (from Letterman)

    10. Delivered speech in a bright orange pantsuit
    9. Wants to change October to “Barack-tober”
    8. Most of speech was devoted to his Labor Day barbecue cole slaw recipe
    7. Outlined plan for America, then took calls about the Broncos defense
    6. Kept saying to John Kerry, “Hey, why the long face?”
    5. Twelve-and-a-half minutes of, “Testing-one-two”
    4. Performed hilarious ventriloquist act with Dennis Kucinich on his lap
    3. Promised to make Pluto a state
    2. Plans to bring peace to Lo and Audrina on “The Hills”
    1. Also pronounces “nuclear,” “nucular”

  • Paula

    moon, It’s a conservative site so that’s no surprise. :-)

  • henry

    Okay
    I am ready to be atacked but I was very very pissed off at Senator Clinton for the roll call fiasco. Why? I was enraged/saddened/disgusted/betrayed in 30seconds time.

  • wbboei

    HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
    HILLARY WE LOVE YOU. If you are reading, we love you. Say the word in 2012, and we are there. I know this must be bittersweet for you, as well as for us.

    I have never seen such grace and such strength as you exhibited this past year. You remain my highest sheroe. I know you asked us if we were in it for you, or in it for the ideals you espouse. It was both, because you embody my ideals better than any person on this planet, and I cannot separate the two. I cannot ignore either your beliefs or your woman-ness, because both are part of me.
    ———————————————
    VERY WELL SAID

  • birdgal

    Pelosi can take a long walk off a short pier, as far as I’m concerned. She threw 18 million Hillary supporters under the bus, and eliminated democracy from the selection process. That is unforgiveable. I don’t know, how she look herself in the mirror. What a disgrace.

  • moononpluto

    I wish Hillary at that point had just said, This is a fucking sham, cut the shit.

  • henry

    birdgal
    sorry but i have to state the obvious its easy to look in the mirror when a doctor reinvents the reflection every other week. Maybe that is why she is so drawn to bambi.

  • NewMexicoFan

    news.aol.com/elections/article/mccain-decides-on-running-mate/9187?icid=200100397x1208587093x1200482768

    They are still polling at AOL on how the Palin decision is going down. It looks good, but if you have not voted, you might want to do it. 4 questions.

  • henry

    Informal poll:
    which pathetic, power abusing, do nothing who has done nothing, misogonyst, homophobic, elitest incompetent would you most like to be for halloween?
    Perhaps it is only fair that we automatically exclude Brazille as she is just way to easy.

  • birdgal

    Henry: you are right. He is another blank slate.

  • moononpluto

    Sarah Palin Runs A State. Barack Obama Runs His Mouth.

    Maverick and Barracuda Take On Blowhard and Blowharder

    This is the best way I can think to say it.

  • basil9

    Henry,

    I feel the same way. But from what wbboei said, it seems that when the hotel room ballots weren’t adding up the way pooplosi wanted a last minute roll call was called and there was total confusion or something.

    I don’t blame HRC for it – after all, her supporters were all clamoring for a roll call. I think she, like us, believed that justice WOULD prevail. How naive of us.

  • moononpluto

    You know how i know the DNC and Bambi got caught out.

    Look here this was the DNC attack website on McCains VP.

    Anyone Missing?

    http://www.democrats.org/page/content/thenextcheney

  • wbboei

    Found this great quote at alegre’s which sums up perfectly the way women have reacted to the sexism from BM, BO and the DNC.

    “They may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel.”
    — Carl W. Buechner
    ——————————————–
    Basil: great quote and so true

  • basil9

    moonpluto,

    It’s possible even our valiant HRC was traumatized and immobilized by the sheer evil she was subjected to.

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch but from reports i read it seems she stayed strong to the end, just like a queen sentenced to be guillotined who walks calmly and proudly to her execution and accepts her fate. That is true nobility.

  • henry

    wow once again today my posts are not showing up.
    maybe I should rephrase
    when you are dressing for the late october festivities which monster are you gonna be
    brazille
    clyburn
    dean
    kennedy
    kennedy, caroline
    oprah
    pelosi
    kerry
    richardson
    matthews(think about that one)
    et al

  • basil9

    wbboei,

    I’m partial to the ‘warthog in a peach orchard’ quip. 😉

  • carbynew

    This is a happy dance day…looking at the Democratic? Taliban Party looking and acting like the LOSERS they are…they can’t attack Palin on Education and Union because she and her husband (still is) were Union folks. Can’t call her elitist because who in Alaska are elites?

    The Dems are having fits trying to define her and it work work because they put Obambi at the head of their ticket.

    Go McCain/Palin 08

    I OWN MY VOTE!

  • carbynew

    work work = wont work

  • moononpluto

    Jesus i forgot that, will the unions have second thoughts now.

    Palin is pro unions. She may bring in some unions.

  • henry

    moon
    her husband is a member of a/the steel workers union. In western PA and Ohio that will play very well

  • admin

    Henry, it’s gremlins in the machine not anything purposeful. Yesterday poor Djia was the victim of the gremlins. Today, it might be you. There are major software changes (Internet Explorer has a new version out) so it is an internet wide phenomenon. Our spam filters code goes a little nuts sometimes.

    We are very interested in the list of “monsters” of NOvember. We want a list for the primaries (get Kerry out) and for after Obama concedes.

  • basil9

    moon,

    sorry but i didn’t catch what you meant unless it’s that the ad proves McCain punked the DN by not posting Palin’s name?

    henry,
    i don’t want the vibes of those people anywhere near me even if it is only dress-up.

    I’ll go as Bellini’s Norma.

  • henry

    admin/basil9
    I was inspired by the theme of the last couple of posts. Halloween being so close to Nov 4. Maybe orchastrating parties were everyone shows up in one of the infidels. Brazille= Godzilla, Kerry= Lurch, Oprah=Orca, and I am sure the highly creative minds here can come up with much better.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Kerry and Pelosi are high on the list of “gotta go”, as is Clyburn.

  • moononpluto

    Didnt take Bambi’s lot long, nothing really in this

    voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/08/exclusive_chief_fired_by_palin.html?hpid=topnews

    key point here : “She never directly asked me to fire him,” (so no story, its hearsay)

    The July firing of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan by Gov. Sarah Palin, who was announced as John McCain’s running mate on Friday, has unearthed a stream of soap-opera-like details about Palin, her husband, her family and top state appointees. The controversy has also cut against Palin’s reputation for holding an ethical line and standing up to colleagues in the Republican Party over matters of principle.

    Monegan, 57, a respected former chief of the Anchorage Police Department, said in an interview with The Washington Post’s James V. Grimaldi on Friday that the governor repeatedly brought up the topic of her ex-brother-in-law, Michael Wooten, after Monegan became the state’s commissioner of public safety in December 2006. Palin’s husband, Todd, met with Monegan and presented a dossier of information about Wooten, who was going through a bitter custody battle with Palin’s sister, Molly. Monegan also said Sarah Palin sent him e-mails on the subject, but Monegan declined to disclose them, saying he planned to give them to a legislative investigator looking into the matter.

    Palin initially denied that she or anyone in her administration had ever pressured Monegan to fire the trooper, but this summer acknowledged more than a half a dozen contacts over the matter, including one phone call from a Palin administration official to a state police lieutenant. The call was recorded and was released by Palin’s office this month. Todd Palin told a television reporter in Alaska that he did meet with Monegan, but said he was just “informing” Monegan about the issue, not exerting pressure.

    “She never directly asked me to fire him,” Monegan said.

    But he said Todd Palin told him Wooten “shouldn’t be a trooper. I’ve tried to explain to him, you can’t head hunt like this. What you need to do is back off, because if the trooper does make a mistake, and it is a terminable offense, it can look like political interference.

    “I think he’s emotionally committed in trying to see that his former brother-in-law is punished.” (yup well when he tasered his 11yr old stepson, i’d be pissed too)

    The allegation against Palin, “undercuts one of the points they are making that she is an ethical reformer,” said Democratic state Sen. Hollis French, who is managing a $100,000 investigation into the firing of Walter Monegan. (what a waste of money)

  • carbynew

    Palin as VP may change SIUC student’s mind for November
    BY ADAM TESTA, The Southern
    Friday, August 29, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
    CARBONDALE — Brett Merboth’s vote for the nation’s next president may have changed Friday.

    Merboth, a freshman aviation technology major at Southern Illinois University Carbondale, joined America in the surprise of hearing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced as Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential running mate, and that surprise may have been enough to convince him to vote Republican.

    Last year, Merboth met and spoke with Palin at an Alaskan state girl’s basketball tournament in Anchorage. His hometown team from Nome was playing in the tournament, and Palin, a former basketball player, was in attendance.

    “I saw her there and a couple of my friends told me I wouldn’t run up there and talk to her, so I did,” he said.

    Merboth and his family moved to Illinois after he decided to attend SIUC, and his mother’s political alignment fell right into place in their new home.

    “I’m pretty strongly Democratic and standing by (Sen. Barack) Obama,” said Kim Galleher, Brett’s mother.

    When asked who he’d be voting for now, Merboth replied, “Now that Sarah Palin’s in it, it’s a little different.”

    Merboth said he was impressed at how friendly Palin was when people keep asking her questions despite the fact she was trying to watch a basketball game. She also “always worked for the people” and helped end a reputation of corruption in the state, he said.

    After finishing at SIUC, Merboth hopes to return to Alaska to work.

    http://www.thesouthern.com/articles/2008/08/29/breaking_news/doc48b86f61eb587877483428.txt

  • moononpluto

    Compared to what Biden and Obama have been up too, this is completely a load of nonsense.

  • henry

    I think a win by McCain with Palin is a win for my BOOM BOOM. She is myngrand-niece and I at 41 want her to believe that she can have it all.

  • debbie

    at 6:30 am today someone at hillaryclintonforum announced McCains pick of Palin for vp

    32,500 viewed that message on that site since then

    …that is absolutely amazing

    I’m betting every pro Hillary site including Big Pink has had lots of hits today whether they posted or not.

  • birdgal

    other monsters:

    Daschle
    MO
    Leahy
    Keith Olberman or Doberman
    Schuster
    Mika
    Borger
    Roland Martin
    Candy Crowley
    Cafferty
    Russert
    Caskill
    Kos
    Maddow
    Taylor Marsh

    Wow, there are a lot.

  • henry

    Can someone help me reconcile the tremendous respect I hold for Senator Clinton with her announcing for the state of New York we nominate USELESS as the nominee. Why Why Why. The shot of MO as she did that went beyond repulsion.

  • birdgal

    Jesse Jackson Jr.

  • henry

    Birdgal
    If we were having a contest for who had the best monster costume i think you may have one. JJJr not only dissed the most inclusive president ever but also his own father.

  • HillaryforTexas

    henry, she stopped the roll call before NY voted, some think, so that she as senator from NY did not have to actually cast a vote for Obama.

    We may never know the pressures and arm-twisting and blackmail she was under, or what info she knew that we didn’t. Please do not judge Hillary. She fought longer and harder than any of us, and it is very easy to sit here and say what we would have done, when we didn’t have to DO it. Sort of like Bambi’s war speech.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I want a Godzilla costume for Halloween, with Brazilla’s face.

  • henry

    Birdgal
    but i think someone dressed as a hybid of Oprah/the pied piper/medusa/medea might be unbeatable.

  • debbie

    O’Rielly on FOX is livid, I don’ think I’ve ever seen him so angry

    MSNBC put:

    BREAKING NEWS
    How many houses does Palin bring
    to the rupublican ticket?

  • birdgal

    Why is O’Reilly livid? He doesn’t like Palin?

  • basil9

    Hehehehe.

    How do ya like this one.

    John Wayne McCain!

  • HillaryforTexas

    O’Reilly is livid that MSNBC has turned into a campaign commercial for the O

  • confloyd

    As far as Hillary being coerced during the roll call, all you have to do is watch her decent to the convention floor to acclaim Obama the nominee by acclamation to know she was forced. She walked as she if was forced. She never looked up into the camera, she looked down and I know that is how she felt.
    THe bastard’s deserve to lose and lose big, and I hope they will.

    I would like to know what they used as a bargaining chip and I am sure right at this moment the Obama campaign is working overtime to find the dirt on Sarah. We must band together and make sure this never happens to another woman candidate!

  • Southern Born

    Bill O’Reilly…Whew! After all the down and dirty, nasty, below the belt, vile things he has gleefully said to trash Hillary CLinton over the past 16 years, he suddenly gets all pious about some other network saying something questionable about Palin.

    O’Reilly is one creepy dude!

  • henry

    H4Tx
    I do not judge but my fury for the dnc escalated to all out rage. I wish she hadn’t is all I can say. My country comes way before my party. I am a gay man and I realize that full acceptence may not come in my lifetime but I also have a boom boom( she’ll be 2 on monday and she can read about fifty words and can count to 12– boom boom is short for chicky chicky boom boom) and her future means a lot to me. Sarah Palin I respect my boom booms mother knew she couldn’t deal and gave her up so my entire family stepped in to help an eighteen year old girl who had a baby. I guess sometimes it takes a village. Best thing I have ever done in my life. When I vote for the McCain/Palin ticket I know I am giving her a future.

  • debbie

    Fox has a history of dissing Hillary and and liberal woman that is for sure, but frankly if it takes a republican woman to get them to stop their attacks than I am happy.

    If this whole thing gets the republicans to open their eyes then I couldn’t be more pleased

  • Southern Born

    Do you really O’Reilly and Company will stop dissing HILLARY? They may stop attacking Republican women but Hillary?

  • Canaan

    “he RECOGNIZES that women are a force that must be heard and heeded. And that, my friends, is a start.”

    Absolutely. Hillary supporters drove the Repubs to nominate a woman for Vice President. Who does McCain answer to? Mainstream American women or the Radical Right? We got the answer today.

    McCain, a maverick and a centrist, is asking for our help so he can tell the Radical Right to shove it. Now we know why Pat Buchanan was praising Obama’s b.s. speech last night.

  • skmf12

    admin,

    i loved your article, it was ‘shibumi…

    and here is what i would like to say about palin,
    ‘YOU DONT ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT’,
    but if you try sometime you just might find,
    you get what you need… 😀

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzz1VEN1SEk

  • HillaryforTexas

    ((((henry))) Your Boom Boom is one lucky little girl.

  • Southern Born

    Guess James Dobson does know yet?? McCain is to tell the Radical Right to shove it.

  • debbie

    Southern Born

    Do I prefer the silence from the democrats on Hillary’s attacks or the attacks by Matthews, Shuster,or Olberman on MSNBC or for that matter those on CNN or other local networks?

    Do I cringe each time I hear any woman get degraded?

    What is your question exactly? Should I snub FOX because they show the true story of BHO even though they don’t like Hillary?

  • henry

    HillaryforTexas
    no. I am lucky. Lived in New york City for twenty years and had to leave because I amassed a lot of debt(MY fault credit cards) came back to pittsburgh in many ways just ready to be the end. Then two beautiful women came into my life who inspired me to live a life worth living. The first is of course boom boom and the second was Sen Clinton. I hold in such esteem. Yet even as she inspired me to knock on door after door in the hot sun sometimes with boom boom I cannot rationalize her acclimation bit. I believe in her and worked for her. Why? Palin still tells my boom boom she can be what she wants to be.

  • skmf12

    basil,

    i’ve just completed working 11days in a row, and
    i am beat…
    in that time i had my computer crashed, and windows
    reinstalled, i lost all my info…

    i have three days off, and i want to talk business,
    could you give me your blog address again?

    i am resting tonight, i would like to talk tomorrow if you dont mind…

    i need the hawk addy agian k?

  • debbie

    facinating stats

    39 Primaries (State Run, State Financed)
    34,829,191 Votes Cast -97% of the total Votes cast

    17,657,517 Votes – 50.7% Hillary Clinton – 1464 Pledged Delegates
    17,171,674 Votes – 49.3% Barack Obama – 1429 Pledged Delegates
    Hillary Clinton: + 485,843 Votes – 1.4% and 35 Pedged Delegates

    13 Caucuses (Party Run, Party Financed)
    1,057,136 Votes Cast (2.9%) –53% of these Votes (558,030) were an estimate made by the Democrat Party
    378,684 Estimated Votes – 36% Hillary Clinton – 171 Delegates
    678,452 Estimated Votes – 64% Barack Obama – 323 Delegates
    Barack Obama + 299,768 Estimated Votes +206 Pledged Delegates

  • wbboei

    Henry: Hillary got double crossed by Obama on the roll call thing

  • henry

    BIG BIG FAVOR
    For every birthday and christmas I give my boom boom an envelope to not be opened unless needed. Now she will be two on Monday and I made the first Christmas about her and I. Then I did I Will Always Love You Dolly’s version, then something like we are family, this year i am giving her “a Love that will Never grow Old” but Christmas is coming up soon. And by the way its very easy to create walmart will take your pics and lay thre music. any song suggestions?

  • Norma Desmond

    LOL…ya think Mick Jagger was a bit high?

  • texan4hillary

    dont look at palin’s wikipedia-the bots have totally changed it to negs. cache
    http:/ /72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:wPu4ia1Ld8EJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin+sarah+palin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

  • texan4hillary

    does anyone have a site that list palin’s issue positions etc. im reading different things!

  • Norma Desmond

    Wow Debbie, based on those stats, Nasty Pelosi wasn’t kidding when she said we would have the most transparent Party in history running things, eh?

    😉

  • Norma Desmond

    T4H…that’s totally disgusting and FASCIST…

    these folks just make me MORE AND MORE sure that NOT supporting Obama is the right thing to do.

    Imagine how the government would be

  • wbboei

    Admin> can you embed the newmax tv interview with Dick Morris re. Sara Palin. It is supportive of your analysis. Here is a small excerpt, but the full text is even better. One memorable snippet: barack obama spent the primary trying to defeat one woman and will spend the general election trying to defeat another. Also, he says Biden is no match for her. Here is a brief overview of his comments from the newsmax tv. Check it out fro yourself but if you agree please post/

    In an interview moments after Sarah Palin’s pick as John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate, Newsmax contributor Dick Morris tells Newsmax TV that Palin was a great choice. “She’s a brilliant person, a reform-oriented governor and a Miss Alaska runner-up,” Morris says.

  • henry

    Okay so I want to leave a video/audio for my grand niece to open when she needs it. I hope that she will never ever need to view as she is two. i am 41 and I want her to know how much I love her. How much I am afraid for her. I have i will always love you and a love that will never grow old. they sit in an envelope which reads open when needed.

  • HillaryforTexas

    henry, when my babies were little, I always sang The Beatles “I Will” to them

    Love you forever and forever
    love you with all my heart
    love you whenever we’re together
    love you when we’re apart

    and when at last I’ve found you
    a song will fill the air
    sing it loud so I can hear you
    make it easy to be near you
    for the things you do, endear you to me
    Oh, you know I will.

    That was my babies lullaby.

  • OkieAtty

    Dobson has endorsed Mccain now. *yawn*

    This has been stuck in my head all day since I saw Palin’s speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X4MwbVf5OA

  • skmf12

    norma,

    dude was fllying…
    (ahhh, those were the days…) :roll:

  • birdgal

    okie: LOL!

  • Canaan

    “If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.”

    Yes, an Extinction Level Event.

    Dobson is the one with no place to turn, not us.

  • henry

    How do we make sure Brazille has no power after this fiasco, someone please respond

  • henry

    brazille
    who chose her
    why was she able to dictate the process
    why??????

  • wbboei

    dont look at palin’s wikipedia-the bots have totally changed it to negs. cache
    http:/ /72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:wPu4ia1Ld8EJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin+sarah+palin&hl=en&ct=clnk
    ———————————————
    Need to get this to the McCain camaign asap. I have been trying to cultivate a relationship at that level but my efforts have not been crowned with conspicous success/ I have tried my local contacts and cant locate business cards. Somebody needs to be monitoring that site on a regular basis like 24/7. I will keep trying unless someone else here has a reliable source.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I hope that Oprah can use that expensive dress she has for O inaugural someplace else.

  • Norma Desmond

    LMAO

    From B Merry (there was a link)

    How to get rid of Barack Obama

    START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK:
    1. Open a new file in your computer.
    2. Name it ‘Barack Obama’.
    3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
    4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
    5. Your PC will ask you:’Do you really want to get rid of ‘Barack Obama’?
    6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’
    7. Feel better?

    GOOD! – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi!

  • henry

    Somebody please tell me who elected Brazille or dean to decide my vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Norma Desmond

    OKIE LMAO! at the Enjoli commercial stuck in your head.

    I remember that SO WELL!

    ROFL!

  • confloyd

    I think Gore was behind the whole thing. But best of all I think Rove doublecrossed his new friend Donna. Gee, I would like to send her an email saying why she let Rove doublecross her like that! The Dumocrats!

    Are they still chomping at the bit to get Hillary out there against Sarah??

  • Idunn

    Here’s a little info our gay brothers and sister might find reassuring:

    Palin’s first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska’s attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.

    So let’s review.

    Does Obama support gay marriage? No. He supports civil unions.
    Does Palin support gay marriage? No. She supports civil unions.

    NEXT!

  • wbboei

    Henry: where brazille is concerned they shoot horses but they hang traitors. That is the law of nations, and there is nothing she can offer in mitigation for her offense of conspiring with rove to destroy the party.

  • Paula

    henry, If Obama loses she’ll get a lot of the blame, as will Dean. I doubt she’ll retain much power after that.

  • texan4hillary

    any real website with her issues views? some of em arent much.

  • birdgal

    texan: what about her own website?

  • mj

    Texan, I don’t think we know alot of particulars yet. She’s knew on the national scene.

  • Norma Desmond

    Henry, I don’t know how Brazille got to where she is, except the Democratic National Committee is run by losers. Dean at the helm is the prime example. The ones that strike me as odd are all the party bosses that we knew nothing about before we did the RBC and delegate outreach through FDR. I mean, wtf?

    WHO is Alice Germond? WHO ARE all these folks that can BUY policy? It’s the same way with the Republicans. The parties are controlled by a very few with a set agenda, and attempts at infiltrating are long processes. We see what the Christian Right did to the republicans, and now the Radical left to the Dems.

    Besides, they all wanted to get rid of the Clintons. It’s pathological on BOTH sides, and America LOVES the Clintons. Perhaps that is why. But as special interest ideology is allowed to creep in, the party will become more and more corrupt. It happened to the Republicans with the Christian right. George Bush is not the problem, per se, he is just a TERRIBLE Administrator and he has tanked all he has touched. Why anyone thought it would be different with the US Govt is beyond me. But it has been his EGO and HUBRIS that NO ONE ELSE can be right that made it so destructive, and his inability to control himself with the budget. So Congress took HIS lead. And THIS is what will happen if BO is in the White House. He will be so stuck on HIMSELF as was Bush, and the lead he brings to Pelosi’s Congress will tank the economy completely and REALLY bring the thuggery of the Chicago Combine into the halls of power. What we have seen is only a taste, and I believe in my heart, Donna Brazille is a racist thug NOW, and people like MO will just engender that kind of attitude among weak folks who seek more power.

    I HOPE that this choice of Palin WILL allow McCain to say “FU tothe radical fringe” in HIS party, and we can say the same to the leftists in ours. NEITHER is good for America

  • turndownobama-com

    mj Says:
    If Obama loses, Pelosi is OUT!

    ======

    Please tell me more, please please.

  • mj

    This is weird. Palin dominated the Yahoo headlines all day. Now she’s not anywhere in the top five, and the first one is Obama’s speech viewership. Strange.

  • Paula

    What was the viewership?

  • texan4hillary

    on hillbuzz someone did a write up from ak claimin she bloked an abortion ban in her town when she was mayor. very interesting if true and who knows.

  • birdgal

    Caught a little of Greta’s show. The people in Alaska love Sarah Palin. During her 20 months as governor, she has vetoed 300 (!) bills related to special interests. The woman, Greta was interviewing said that Gov. Palin had done more in her 20 months, than the previous 3 term (12years) governor. This is going to be interesting. She has walked the talk, and has accomplishments to show for it. She also vetoed a bill that was going to discriminate against benefits for gay couples. She was for giving benefits to gay couples. She is against gay marriage, but most politicians are (unfortunately).

  • AmericanGal

    OT: I found this amusing..love the album title…

    Amazon has the album “Music from Big Pink” by The Band on sale today for $5.00.

    Buy it here:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TEPKS4/

  • Paula

    Thanks, mj. Is that typical?

  • confloyd

    I Axelrove is busy burying Sarah’s accomplishments or at least fabricating them. I hope McCain realizes what he is up against with these bots.
    McCain better call Obama out on this crap! I think the republicans are going to all stand behind his choice, they don’t eat their own like the democrats do!

  • monkeybusiness

    this turns the “mcSame” argument on its head with Dems saying, more of the same with john mccain. There was nothing “same” about this. It was totally maverick and different! It was brilliant!

  • texan4hillary

    i saw palin back in 07 on charlie rose. it was a very interesting look at her governing style. here it is
    http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/10/12/2/a-conversation-with-governors-janet-napolitano-sarah-palin

  • monkeybusiness

    This will also help Hillary’s chances to win in 2012!

  • turndownobama-com

    wbboei et al,

    Illinois Underground Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    Basil, Norma: I hope that Hillary “has a headache” for about the next 9 weeks.

    ===========

    I pray that’s all her indisposition amounts to. Hillary has always had the wisdom and maturity to lie low without ANY comment or excuse, at times when most people would be explaining themselves all over the
    place. The Clinton family needs R&R and privacy and I hope they’re getting it, with maybe their own close friends, and plenty of peace and quiet.

    She’s escaped the servitude of VP. She’s out of the pressure of juggling her delegates and convention strategy. BO must know by now that having her stump for him doesn’t work: people show up to cheer her and boo his name.

    I think strategy-wise, the best thing for her is to keep out of sight and not comment on Palin or McCain and let everyone else make the connections and comparisons and predictions. Let them say, “The more Hlllary stays out of it — the more it becomes about her.”

  • curiosityhasme

    Infuriating that NaziPelosi has the nerve to play the Roe v Wade ithreat in her response to the Gov. Sarah Palin VP announcement. She must really believe that they can STILL hold all women HOSTAGE like they have Hillary over this issue and Supreme Court nominees.

    I’ll put it to you like this: When a nominee can run for the highest office in the land and not even have to prove his citizenship – I’ll be damned if they think they can bully us into submission to a BHO/Biden administration over Roe v Wade. That crap may work for young, stupid Obamabots – but to us old hags – we could really care less. I mean it. Intimidation isn’t working anymore DNC thugs. Someone should turn the tables on you NaziPelosi.

    We’ve been through the ringer over the treatment of Hillary and the fact that she will not be the President – so any threat after that letdown falls on deaf ears and rings hollow. Give it your best shot, because it ain’t working.

    I’m feeling like a real “maverick” lately. McCain/Palin. Yeah, that’s the ticket. The DNC has to go, so we will fiish them off. Sraight Republican Ticket is the only way to go. Punish the spineless SuperDelegate Dems who supported BHO. Send them home and let them see how it feels.

    NObama NOvember

  • wbboei

    Bill: Got your message and was eager to give you my reaction to Sarah Palin. I see it as EXTREMELY positive!! I have to admit after watching last night’s extravaganza, I was a bit down and resigned to the fact that Mr. Obama would be our next President. Now, I think it is going to be one heck of a campaign!

    In the back of my mind this morning while watching her speak after McCain introduced her, I was reminded of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. She’s fresh, grounded, no-nonsense,I suspect not easily frustrated. The one statement I came away with was when she thanked Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton and said “We women aren’t through yet.” It was neither Democrat nor Republican but “we women” which I think will grab a lot of Hillary’s supporters.

    I’m heartened and actually looking forward to the remainder of this campaign – particularly anxious to hear her debate Mr. Biden! He just might have his hands full! I’m sure you’ll hear from John tomorrow. Thanks for asking. Julie

  • carbynew

    The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY and Obama is TOAST! I have seen the Dems trying to Sarah Palin out as this crazy right winger but if that was the case why is she running at 80% in her state and ran as a reform candidate.

    The more the Dems use SEXISM AND MYSOGINY the more people will voter for her…already independents are saying very nice comments on her selection for vp and are pooing the Dems “the sky is falling” comments.

    Her introduction to the world was very successful and comes across very down to earth. She will help bring in the west for McCain.

    Sarah is married to a minority and that will help McCain in CA. You don’t see the Republican party crying about this pick, they are very excited and I must remind Democrats that there are millions of pro-life Democrats who will be very excited about Sarah.

    Obama is TOAST!!!

    Remember, I said earlier that CA is not a given for Obama…this pick will help move CA into the McCain column.

  • Norma Desmond

    That charlie rose piece was a good intro to Palin. She is committed.

  • MIDem

    I don’t know if it has been mentioned yet,
    but how refreshing it was to hear USA USA USA,
    rather than the cult chant o-bam-a o-bam-a.

    I’ll always be a Democrat, but I’ll vote Republican until we rid ourselves of the unDemocratic traitorous treasonous autocrats that have taken over our party.
    If they do not respect a persons choice (for a vote), they certainly do not respect a persons right to choose (roe v. wade).

    Looks like little caesar just got served.

  • Norma Desmond

    MIDem, that’s an interesting observation (and one I believe was mentioned earlier) but I can play those sound tracks in my head, and it is clear to me which one is NOT freaky. The segue is very interesting in the internal boom box between my ears.

    I have audible visions of the Reichstag with your latter pick

  • Berkeley Vox

    If you’re trying to decide between Obama and McCain, consider this:

    Both political parties are experiencing big, tumultuous change right now. The Republican party is suddenly being led by the anti-Bush, financially responsible, modern reformers. Despite being old in age, McCain is pushing his party forward.

    The Democratic party is being seized by a left-wing mob, intent on returning the party to its pre-1992 mistakes of bloated government programs, failed presidential bids, and academic/ivory tower campaigns.

    Which group do you want to be in?

  • carbynew

    I was watching Paula Begala and others and they are worried to death that McCain/Palin might win this for the Republicans.

    They know they have a problem with women over 30 that will vote for this ticket and independents are the larger group anyhoo.

    The dems is in total meltdown because McCain took the wind out of Obama/Biden sails…

    Obama is TOAST!!

    The Dems have nobody to blame but themselves for this fiasco.

  • texan4hillary

    carbynew
    what do u mean her husband is a minorty?

  • HillaryforTexas

    t4h, Mr. Palin is part Native American – specifically a particular Eskimo tribe, I forget the name.

  • MIDem

    I think that Obama has a lust for power that is frightening.
    What is even more frightening was watching how easily the public
    at large fell for it.
    I always wondered how people could fall for a dictator.
    Now I saw how easily it could be done.

    Thank you to all on this website for the information, the support
    and the tools to fight the real menace that is obama.

    LET FREEDOM RING – COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY

  • carbynew

    Gergen on CNN is sweating bullets…all these turncoats Republicans know McCain has done it…he in the driver seat and the pundits need to keep silent if they don’t know much about Palin.

    Their ignorance is telling…they are treating her like this “hick from sticks” and I saw some bots write a comment about her non Ivy League schooling and being demissive about it.

  • HillaryforTexas

    carby, I say keep it up, bots. Ridicule the small-town roots of this woman. That is going to REALLY win those pissed-off bitter middle America voters.

  • neetabug

    Voted on the AOL Poll, the whole map is red.

    Go McCain

  • Norma Desmond

    I wonder how many of the bots who blog all day went to Ivy League schools

  • neetabug

    I will find a McCain headquarters here in Cleveland and volunteer. I have a grilfriend who left the Democratic Party, she said the Republicans treated you better. She hasn’t looked back

  • carbynew

    Palin seen as having ability to connect with voter, much like Bill Clinton
    By DAVID POSTMAN
    The Seattle Times

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s selection as John McCain’s running mate Friday mystified many in the Lower-48. Even after a day of cable news overload, some still may wonder what the inexperienced politician from a distant state could bring to the ticket.

    The McCain camp played up Palin’s maverick credentials. She became governor after defeating an incumbent Republican whose administration was beset by ethical problems.

    In office, she continued to speak out about a growing Alaska political scandal that mostly hit Republicans, and took on the powerful oil industry.

    Palin, 44, is now facing questions about her own activities. The Alaska Legislature is investigating whether she abused her office to have her sister’s ex-husband fired as a state trooper.

    But in Alaska, friends and foes of Palin say McCain must have seen what they’ve known for the past few years: Palin has a preternatural ability to connect with voters and make them feel she cares.

    Think Bill Clinton – but an anti-abortion, snowmobile-riding, moose-hunting, mother of five Bill Clinton.

    “There’s just those people who you meet in life and in politics where immediately you are just drawn to them and want to be around them and you can feel that genuineness from her,” a lifelong family friend of Palin’s and a city councilman in Wasilla, the town where she got her start.

    “That’s what intoxicates Alaskans,” he said. “She can relate to our struggles and our own lives.”

    Her ability to connect with voters led Palin from Wasilla, an Anchorage suburb of 8,500 roughed-out of a valley north of the city, to the governor’s race in 2006.

    She beat incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski in the primary and former Democratic Gov. Tony Knowles in the general election.

    In office, Palin fought with the Alaska oil companies and Republican lawmakers over construction of a natural gas pipeline, pushing through her own plan.

    She raised oil taxes to get the state a bigger share of record industry revenues, then pushed through a plan to send every man, woman and child in the state an extra $1,200 on top of the estimated $2,000 oil dividend they will receive this year.

    Today Palin enjoys popularity ratings of more than 70 percent as governor.

    But there’s much about her elevation to presidential running mate that has some Alaskans scratching their heads.

    “I don’t get it,” said Andrew Halcro, a Republican who ran as an independent against Palin for governor.

    “But having said that, one thing I do know is that people made the mistake of underestimating her, at least underestimating that ability to connect with people,” he said, recalling the 2006 campaign.

    “It was amazing,” he said. “There were no public policy initiatives, no grasp of public policy. But people loved her.”

    Palin began her political career on the Wasilla City council in 1992 and was elected mayor four years later.

    She largely delivered on her promises, according to The Anchorage Daily News, but her stint as mayor was not without controversy. She replaced the city’s police chief and maneuvered to fill city council vacancies, angering some city leaders.

    In 2002 she lost a primary race for lieutenant governor.

    She made headlines in 2004 when she quit her position as chairwoman of the state Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees energy development on state lands, after reporting alleged ethical violations by a fellow commissioner, Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruederich.

    He later agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws.

    Palin’s public stand against ethical breeches “was huge” in the building of her reputation as a reformer, said Anchorage pollster Dave Dittman, who worked for Palin in her 2006 gubernatorial race.

    “It’s easy to pay lip-service to high ideals,” he said. “But that took it out of the realm of the poseur and established a great deal of trust with voters.”

    State Rep. Mike Doogan, a Democrat from Anchorage, says Palin has governed just as she ran: as an outsider. She focuses more on voters and reporters than on legislators, he said.

    That rings true for Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Wasilla. She has met with Palin only three times this year.

    “After the election there was a sort of veil that dropped and there was really been no way to be able to communicate,” Green said.

    Doogan, a former reporter and columnist at The Anchorage Daily news for many years, says Palin “won’t do deals.”

    “When people say it that way, it sounds like a good thing,” he said. “But frankly, in terms of running the government, it’s a handicap. She doesn’t want to do politics as usual but she doesn’t have another method other than beating the crap out of the Legislature.”

    The state Legislature currently is investigating allegations that Palin dismissed the state’s public safety director, allegedly after he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper – Palin’s former brother-in-law, involved in a child custody battle with her sister.

    “We are in the midst of quite a period of revelation and we don’t know where this will all lead,” Green said.

    When she heard Friday that Palin was McCain’s choice, Green said she wanted to call the campaign and “tell them they should have done more homework.”

    Palin’s reform standing also could get another test. Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens is running for re-election and awaiting trial on federal charges that he failed to properly report gifts and favors from a powerful Alaska oil man.

    People close to McCain think Palin is a strong critic of Stevens.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, told CNN Friday that Palin’s stand against Stevens qualifies her to conduct foreign affairs.

    “You look at people’s judgment,” Graham said. “You know, Governor Palin took on Ted Stevens. If she can take him on, she can take on the Russians.”

    But did she take on Stevens? Their shared pollster says that’s a serious misreading of Palin’s relationship with Stevens.

    “She’s a strong supporter of Senator Stevens,” said Dittman. He says Palin and Stevens have appeared together at campaign events and that she was close to issuing a formal endorsement of Stevens.

    http://www.bradenton.com/politics/story/846411.html

  • turndownobama-com

    S Says:
    in the meantime…Hillary for Senate Majority Leader?…that sounds good to me…Admin, is Hill on board with this?
    =============

    I”m not Admin but why should anyone bother Hillary with such questions now? Let’s just start shouting it. If it flops she doesnt’ lose face because she didn’t authorize it. If it goes over big, then she can decide whether she wants to get involved.

    It will show much more support if we just DO it than if it looks like she put us up to it!

    Let’s show them that PUMAs are not going away, that we’re up to something new, and always will be!

  • texan4hillary

    palin refused to take up anti abortion bills in special session a few mos ago. right wingers were furious. it as a sessionon enrgy issues . she said some other time.

  • MIDem

    g’night Hillfans.
    Tomorrow is a new fight.
    We will remind the dnc of the error of their ways.

    Every time they want Hillary to defend their chosen one, we will remind them that it was their choice, not ours.
    They did not support her, so she is no longer running.
    She did her part, now it is up to bambi to stand on his own.
    He can’t always expect someone to bail him out of his troubles,
    like a spoiled overgrown child.

  • MIDem

    On last thing.
    This whole ‘one heartbeat away’ is so distasteful.
    If it were used against the petulant one, some may claim it was racist
    and even demand full apologies, rejections and repudiations.
    Again, the double standard seems to be the norm.

    God Bless you all, and God Bless America!

  • wbboei

    Confloyd: great video by Paul

    Paul: great video on Palin

    Stalin: it doesn’t matter who votes. What matters is who COUNTS the votes.

    Comment: wise words from Uncle Joe. You are free to disagree and all it will cost you is a 1 way ticket to the uranium mines in Siberia

    Lesson: 1992: its the economy stupid. 2008 its the voting machines in swing states.

  • HillaryforTexas

    From one of Sugar’s posters:

    Obama lied again. This man is a pathological liar.

    In a 2002 anti-war speech, Obama told the audience, “My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.”

    But in his autobiography, “Dreams of My Father,” Obama states his grandfather never engaged in combat.

    “Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family moved to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill,” he writes. “But the classroom couldn’t contain his ambitions, his restlessness, and so the family moved again.”

  • wbboei

    Every time they want Hillary to defend their chosen one, we will remind them that it was their choice, not ours.
    They did not support her, so she is no longer running.
    She did her part, now it is up to bambi to stand on his own.
    He can’t always expect someone to bail him out of his troubles,
    like a spoiled overgrown child.
    ———————————————
    Yes, yes, yes. She can sell her own candidacy to white blue collary workers. But she cannot sell a charlatan like Obama to them. If theres selling to be done its his job. And leave the teleprompter behind.

  • carbynew

    Palin a good choice, Central Texas Republicans say
    Several don’t know VP nominee but applaud what they’ve seen so far.
    By Jason Embry

    AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

    Saturday, August 30, 2008

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is a mostly unknown figure to key local Republicans. But so far, they say, they like what they see.

    “I am overwhelmed with this young lady,” U.S. Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, said Friday after watching Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, announce Palin as his pick for vice president.

    Carter said he had never seen Palin speak until she appeared with McCain in Dayton, Ohio, on Friday. Although McCain’s campaign has questioned whether Democratic first-term Sen. Barack Obama is ready to be president, Republicans expressed no such worries about the first-term governor.

    “God forbid, if something happened to President McCain, I think she’d be up to the job,” Carter said.

    Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004. Palin was elected governor in 2006 after serving as mayor of Wasilla, a city with fewer than 10,000 residents. Republicans said that her short time in statewide office has been in an executive job.

    “The presidency is an executive office and the governorship is an executive office and certainly that prepares her better than being one of 100 in the Senate, particularly if you’ve been in the Senate less than four years,” said U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, a Republican from San Antonio who represents parts of western and central Travis County.

    Smith said he’d hoped that McCain would pick either a qualified woman (Palin fits the bill, he said) or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, whom Smith supported in the GOP primary. He and others said they hope Palin will appeal to women who wanted Sen. Hillary Clinton on the Democratic ticket.

    “We just finished about two years of a lot of the people in this country telling us they wanted a woman on the ticket,” Carter said. “The Democratic party rejected a woman.”

    Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin, said the pick brings youth and energy to the ticket and proves McCain is willing to take an unconventional approach.

    Texas Railroad Commissioner Elizabeth Ames Jones, a Republican, said she was at a conference this year where Palin gave a speech, hopped on a plane back to Alaska and gave birth to her son.

    “She’s so tough, she could be a Texan,” Jones said.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/08/30/0830palinreax.html

  • HillaryforTexas

    Texas Railroad Commissioner Elizabeth Ames Jones, a Republican, said she was at a conference this year where Palin gave a speech, hopped on a plane back to Alaska and gave birth to her son.

    “She’s so tough, she could be a Texan,” Jones said.

    I TOLD you guys Texans would love her! Texans LOVE strong women!

  • turndownobama-com

    NewMexicoFan Says: just as we have said before, when we saw her after she had suspended her campaign, all we saw was this POW with a gun to her head being forced to do things.

    ================

    If we make her Senate Majority Leader, then maybe they can’t force her any more.

    We’ve got … what … two months to do that? Ie to work on the Senators who are up for re-election this November, to get their pledges to support her.

    That’s 1/3 of the Senators.

    Will Bower is starting this, I should go look at pumapac.

  • carbynew

    Sarah Palin
    posted by melanievox 08/29/2008 10:44:07 PM EST

    OK. This is the most incredible thing I have ever seen.

    John McCain picking a former beauty queen who loves guns and hates abortionists enough to think they deserve prison.

    Sarah Palin never had any foreign policy experience, is the Governor of Alaska (how many people live in Alaska?) She uses Hillary Clinton and her “18 billion cracks in the glass ceiling” and people are going to go for her?

    Only a religious zealot would vote for someone like that.

    That’s right. You gals out there, make sure that you pop out those babies even if you are living below the poverty line and then we can send them off to war when they get old enough. Be the first on your street to see your kid come home in a box. Ah! What a great country. God Bless America.

    That is NOT the America I’m proud of. Are Republicans just completely insane? control freaks? war-mongers? psychotically selfish? Anti-constitution? Want to rule the world?

    And what about this PUMAs. They’re not going to vote for Obama because why? Now their going to vote for McCain?

    They sound like spoiled little teenage girls that got stood up for their prom. I’m a woman, and I’m ashamed of them as women. They are real pieces of work. They need therapy. They want to sell their own country down the river because their girlfriend didn’t get picked.

    Please, we have to get Obama and Biden elected. We’re sunk if we don’t

    http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2008/8/29/22447/3116/Diary/Sarah-Palin

  • birdgal

    What I love the most, about this announcement of Palin: It knocked BO off the news. Who is talking about the speech? Now, not as much as they would have doing, if McCain did not make his VP announcement. How many times did BO knock Hillary out of the news cycle after one of her big wins? Too many times. I bet, he is not happy about this.

  • wbboei

    On last thing.
    This whole ‘one heartbeat away’ is so distasteful
    ———————————————-
    I think Palin is a fast thinker. I know Bambi is a pontificator. I know Biden is a bloviator.

    So which of the three do you really want. This forces bambi to make the argument that experience in washington dc is important.

    The compliant press will say things like he has shifted his position, or explored new vistas, or expanded his vision.

    The Republicans will say he is as full of shit as a Christmas goose–or as ABM 90 would say always mindful of native American wisdom–eagle who walks because he is too full of it to fly.

  • carbynew

    Wow, the Democratic? Taliban Party is really, really upset!

    Reaction to Palin Selection

    Sarah Palin By Betsey Bruce

    (KTVI – myFOXstl) — Reaction to Senator John McCain’s pick for vice president is ranging from “brilliant” to “risky.” A Missouri Republican leader called the selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin “bold” and “out of the box.” At the same time Missouri’s Democratic party chairman deemed it “perplexing” and a “mistake.” Palin will join McCain and other top Republicans for a rally Sunday in O’Fallon, MO.

    Palin comes with limited experience having served 20 months as governor of a small state. Before that she was chairwoman of the state’s Oil and Gas Commission where she took on her own party and exposed a fellow Republican commissioner on ethics violations. She has also served as a small town mayor . In April, Palin gave birth to her fifth child. McCain described her as a reformer who will help him “shake up” Washington and help him fight the “same old Washington politics that puts ‘me’ first and ‘country’ second.

    Democrats have pointed to her limited experience and questioned her preparation for the presidency. Missouri Republican spokesman John Hancock disagreed. He pointed out Palin stood up to entrenched Republicans, defeated them and has reformed the state government. “That’s a tremendous resume from which to run for vice president,” Hancock said.

    Chairman of Missouri’s Democratic party John Temporiti said it is “terrifying and perplexing” to think that she would be a heart beat away from the presidency. A spokesman for the Democratic party described her selection as a “desperate attempt to convince voters hungry for real change that John McCain would provide something other than four more years of George Bush’s policies.”

    Webster University political science professor Bill Hall recognized her lack of experience but said, ” it may be a brilliant move” since the campaign was looking for a way to generate greater interest in what they were doing. But he went on to say, ” picking someone that doesn’t have foreign policy experience or credentials is a very risky pick.”b

    http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7320239&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

  • mj

    Righttttt…because Romney and Pawlenty had tons of foreign policy cred?

  • carbynew

    Douglas Endorses McCain’s VP Pick

    Gov. Jim Douglas (R-Vermont) endorsed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain’s choice for vice president, on Friday, the same day the ticket was announced at a rally in Ohio.

    Douglas said he first met Palin, 44, at President Gerald Ford’s funeral in late 2006, just weeks after Palin was inaugurated as Alaska’s first female governor.

    “She’s feisty. She’s scrappy. She’s someone who’s gonna tell you exactly how she feels,” Douglas said of the vice presidential candidate. “But she’s also very pleasant and personable as well.”

    Douglas touted much of the same points McCain spoke of earlier Friday. He applauded Palin’s record of standing up to oil companies, curbing greenhouse gas emissions and supporting government ethics reform.

    Douglas endorsed McCain for president early in the presidential primaries. He backed now-Pres. George W. Bush over McCain in the 2000 primary season.

    “This is an exciting election,” Douglas said. “We’re either going to break a gender barrier or a color barrier. I think for the American people, for our American history and tradition, that’s really an important step forward.”

    Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), who is biracial, accepted the Democratic presidential nomination Thursday night in Denver. Obama chose Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) as his running mate.

    Palin has served as Alaska’s governor for less than two years. Democrats pounced on that fact Friday, calling McCain a hypocrite for choosing someone with such a short resume after repeatedly labeling Obama as lacking experience.

    Fox 44 Local News spoke with Vermonters about Palin’s selection, and most of those people expressed happiness that a woman was put on a major party ticket, regardless of their political affiliation.

    However, how much of a bump McCain will receive in the female voting bloc is as of yet unknown. Some believe Palin’s selection was in part to attract disaffected former supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s (D-NY) failed presidential run.

    Others, like Breanna Hill – a Montpelier teen who is undecided on who to vote for in her first presidential election – will choose policy over all other factors.

    “It doesn’t really sway my vote either way whether it’s a woman or a man,” Hill said. “It’s what they believe in and what they’re gonna support.”

    http://www.fox44.net/Global/story.asp?S=8925196

  • birdgal

    Well, BO does not have foreign policy experience or credentials. That is why, he picked Biden.

  • Norma Desmond

    Decenber 2007 ABC News on Palin –
    abcnews.go.com/print?id=4052792

    Alaska Governor Shows Fearlessness
    Alaska Governor Bucks Party, Oil Industry; Makes Time to Pose for Vogue
    By STEVE QUINN
    The Associated Press

    JUNEAU, Alaska

    In her first year as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has plunged ahead with the fearlessness of a polar explorer.

    The populist Republican has raised taxes on the powerful oil industry. She has pushed through ethics legislation amid a burgeoning corruption investigation of Alaska lawmakers. She has bucked her party’s old guard. And she has ordered her administration to seek fewer congressional earmarks after Alaska’s “Bridge to Nowhere” became a national symbol of piggish pork-barrel spending.

    The 43-year-old governor has also emerged as a national figure and a media darling, posing recently for Vogue magazine.

    Alaska’s first female governor, a former Miss Wasilla with swept-up light-brown hair, says it is her responsibility to be available even to fashion magazines if it can help change the state’s reputation for graft and gluttony at the public trough.

    “We’ve got to make sure the rest of the United States doesn’t believe the only thing going on in Alaska is FBI probes and corruption trials,” Palin said.

    Palin has dismissed speculation she might leave Juneau for higher office before her term expires in 2010, saying, “My role as governor is where I can be most helpful right now unless something drastic happens, and I don’t anticipate that right now.”

    Nevertheless, John J. Pitney Jr., a political scientist with Claremont McKenna College in California and former analyst for congressional Republicans, said Palin could be an ideal presidential running mate next year.

    “What separates her from others is that at a time when Republicans have suffered from the taint of corruption, she represents clean politics,” Pitney said.

    “The public stereotype of Republican is a wrinkled old guy taking cash under the table,” he said. “One way for Republicans to break the stereotype is with a female reformer.”

    Party labels seem to mean very little to Palin. Her revenue commissioner is a Democrat. Her husband, Todd, a blue-collar worker on Alaska’s oil-rich North Slope, is an independent.

    The mother of four is often seen bounding down the Capitol stairwell, holding a pink backpack and rushing to get her 6-year-old daughter, Piper, off to school on time something that Pitney said could make Palin more appealing to a national audience.

    The former mayor of the Anchorage suburb of Wasilla ran on ethics reform in trouncing Gov. Frank Murkowski in the GOP primary. In the general election, she handily beat Democratic former Gov. Tony Knowles.

    She immediately took on the state’s most lucrative industry, questioning whether Alaska which gets about 85 percent of its revenue from big oil is getting its fair share of the oil companies’ billions of dollars in quarterly profits.

    She got what she wanted from the GOP-controlled Legislature. Relying heavily on Democratic votes, she won approval last month to boost taxes on oil company profits from 22.5 percent to 25 percent. That could bring in an additional $1.6 billion annually for the state, depending on oil prices.

    The state has also accepted bids for the right to build a multibillion-dollar pipeline to deliver Alaska’s natural gas to the rest of the nation.

    On the same day a former Alaska lawmaker was convicted on federal bribery charges, Palin signed an ethics reform bill into law.

    Since then, two more former lawmakers have been found guilty of bribery related to VECO Corp., an oil field contractor. Another former lawmaker awaits trial, and Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, both Republicans, are under investigation.

    Palin’s climb is being done without the backing of the state Republican Party, led by Randy Ruedrich. In 2004, as chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, Palin exposed Ruedrich for ethics violations when he was a fellow commissioner.

    She has also made trouble for the party’s establishment by calling on Stevens to give the public an explanation of why the feds have raided Stevens’ Alaska home in the investigation of his ties to VECO’s founder.

    “I don’t sweat it at all that the partisanship isn’t playing a big part of my agenda,” Palin said. “What that tells me is this: that I’m on the right track, and that it hasn’t stopped us.”

  • AmericanGal

    I never check in at TM anymore but I had to see how they were handling the news. TM wrote a very negative piece on Palin equating her to Dan Quayle. But the people posting messages have been taking her to task. Glad to see that she finally is getting some blowback from abandoning Hillary and becoming a koolaid drinker…

  • wbboei

    turndownobama-com Says:

    August 30th, 2008 at 12:01 am
    NewMexicoFan Says: just as we have said before, when we saw her after she had suspended her campaign, all we saw was this POW with a gun to her head being forced to do things.

    ================

    If we make her Senate Majority Leader, then maybe they can’t force her any more.

    We’ve got … what … two months to do that? Ie to work on the Senators who are up for re-election this November, to get their pledges to support her.

    That’s 1/3 of the Senators.

    Will Bower is starting this, I should go look at
    pumapac.

    ——————————————-
    turndownobama: the timing on this is perfect if we act quickly. In the eyes of the country she has done all that she can do. HE MUST SELL HIMSELF. If they want her to risk her reputation by going any further there needs to be a significant quid pro quo. They owe her than and this petition signed by millions would give her the leverage she needs. This is something bambi can do and should do if he wants her help. Do it.

    I went to the site last night and could not find the petition. Is it there or what?

  • confloyd

    birdgal, yes, yes, yes, the little twirp needs a dose of his own medicine. He got knocked off the news after his big night. That was wonderful, I hadn’t thought of that.
    I don’t get these diehard democratic women, the democratic party clearly said we did not count, now McCain is welcoming us. I hate Obama and his cronies and they have NO business running our country.
    We will watch and see if they do to Sarah what they did to Jerry and Hillary! They are on notice to not treat us as second class citizens.
    The republicans haven’t even started playing hardball yet. I can’t wait!

  • carbynew

    ‘First dude’

    Mrs Palin’s husband, Todd, has spent a portion of his career on the oil fields of the North Slope working for BP.
    Todd Palin is four-time champion of the Iron Dog snowmobile race

    The “first dude” as he has jokingly referred to himself, is also the four-time champion of the Iron Dog, Alaska’s most gruelling snowmobile race.

    The couple have five children, the youngest of which was born with Downs Syndrome in April 2008, during Mrs Palin’s second year in office.

    She has retained a high approval rating throughout her two years in office.

    But she is currently herself under investigation by state lawmakers over the dismissal of a state public safety commissioner. It is alleged he was fired because he resisted pressure from Mrs Palin’s administration to sack an Alaska state trooper who was in the midst of bitter divorce battle with the governor’s sister.

    Mrs Palin has denied the charges, and here approval ratings remain above 80%.

    Yet Alaskans, who were still asleep when their governor was confirmed as the Republican vice-presidential candidate, are still in shock.

    “This is a surprise, it’s a surprise to all of us,” Matthew Simon said.

    “Obama has made such a concerted effort in Alaska, setting up offices throughout the state. McCain doesn’t even have an office in Alaska and he has never mentioned campaigning here,” he said.

    One thing is for sure – this state, often referred to as “The Upper One,” will now be the focus of attention as never before.

    And in an election that has been defined by arguments about “readiness to lead”, the politician from Wasilla, farther from Washington than Washington is from London, will now face the challenge of getting an entire nation behind her.

    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7589351.stm

  • Norma Desmond

    nite all!

  • wbboei

    AmericanGal Says:

    August 30th, 2008 at 12:20 am
    I never check in at TM anymore but I had to see how they were handling the news. TM wrote a very negative piece on Palin equating her to Dan Quayle. But the people posting messages have been taking her to task. Glad to see that she finally is getting some blowback from abandoning Hillary and becoming a koolaid drinker…
    ——————————————–
    TRAITOR MARSH. Quale was a dummy. Palin is very smart. But Taylor sees no difference. Maybe she can borrow some prozac from Tweetie

  • wbboei

    Turndownobama: I am worried too about the subject you are praying about. Will email you.

  • HillaryforTexas

    mj, forget Romney and Pawlenty, Obama had Kaine on his short list for VP for MONTHS. Kaine has been a governor for exactly as long as Palin.

    But, see, Kaine had a penis. Evidently they think a penis adds YEARS to your length of experience. Men can’t measure length accurately for shit, we all know that.

  • freckles

    Listening to a Democratic spokeswoman declare positively absolutely that Hillary voters would NEVER vote for McC/Palin, I wondered if, just possibly, she could be right.

    Could I be the only one?

    I read this blog and found that I am not alone. How could this be? Their certitude is based on the notion that “when they find out that McC is pro-life” (as if we’ve all been living in caves for at least 8 years) and that Palin endorsed Buchanan (we voted for Kerry/Edwards) we women will vote for Obama. (I guess they think you men are hopeless — you’ll vote for any pretty face)

    Well, apart from pro-choice, we have other ‘women’s issues’. Integrity. Competence. Hard work. Authenticity. Energy solutions. Environment. Working in a bipartisan way on global warming, corruption, over spending, deficits. AND OWNING OUR VOTES.

    She’s good on those. As Bill Clinton says, if you agree on half the issues but the candidate can do something about them, who do you vote for? The Useless One or the Effective One?

  • texan4hillary

    oy-if pics of her and indicted sen stevens show up obama will run ads to the hilt. that is worrisome. obma needs be vetted bad

  • HillaryforTexas

    t4h, why would pics of her with Stevens be bad? She is the one who TOOK HIM DOWN. She’s a big reason he is indicted, because she blew the whistle on all the corruption.

  • mj

    Well, wait, endorsed Buchanon? he’s anti-semitic. That’s bad if true. I’ll wait to hear her views on Isreal.

  • birdgal

    freckles: I don’t how many disaffected Hillary supporters will vote for McCain, but over at Riverdaughter, many posters were thinking of doing it. People do care about the issues, but for me, Obama cannot be trusted. I trust McCain, more than the undemocratic party. I am sorry to say that. Palin is fresh, but even though I don’t agree with her positions, there are many things to admire about her. She is feisty, congenial, photogenic, speaks her mind, and has the reformer instinct about her. McCain needs a partner like that. The undemocratic party is lost to me. The values that they once stood for, are lost. Hillary could have brought the party together, but the hard-left wing of the party is too dangerous for this country. McCain will not bring down RvsW, and any SCOTUS will be moderated by congress. I am more concerned about national security and energy concerns. I think, McCain is better in those areas. I would love to have UHC, but it is a pipe dream at this point in time. We cannot afford, unless we get out of Iraq. In addition, the Global Poverty Act will bankrupt this country.

  • HillaryforTexas

    From RD blog:

    So we get inexperienced Sarah Palin if John McCain dies, but we get inexperienced Barack Obama if Barack Obama lives?

    LMAO! That is a great response!

  • texan4hillary

    mj
    palin should respond to that asap. ben smith si the one spreading it. she went to a buchanon rally or something in 96 i think. he remembers her well. smith talked to ak jews clsoe to palin-they say she is a friend to israel and that jews in ak have had no run ins with her. smith claims he called camp mccain for an answer on palin s position. crackerjack smith-his whole thing today was trying to smear thsi woman. i will dig around though

  • chaz356

    DNC stole the election and reward them we should not
    I am McCain/Palinall the way someone has to pay for what they forced Hillary to do.
    My friend a once unmoved BHO supporter still says he gets chills at how Presidential Hillary looked at the convention, a lot of buyer remorse there.
    Hillary does not own my vote, Now Huff is saying Palin is no Hillary yet they spent 18 months bringing her down
    Patback is sweet
    McCain is a maverick I am willing to gamble on him

  • mj

    Oh, well, going to an event an out and out endorsing is a different story. She may not have even been aware of his stands. Happy to hear what the jewish voters in AK are saying. I am sure McCain camp will address this.

  • birdgal

    The left wing is trying to smear Palin. I’m sure McCain vetted her views towards Israel and Jewish people. My respect for liberals is going down the drain faster with every passing day.

  • texan4hillary

    did find palin said she doesnt think global warming is man made
    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126139.html

  • texan4hillary

    also found she singed in many holocaust education items. wexler is pushing the palin ahtes israel story.

  • birdgal

    Well, we all know how reliable Wexler is.

  • Secret

    Hello everyone – very few people know me here – like Admin, Kostner, mj, freckles, HillaryforTexas, wbboei , AmericanGal and other very old people.

    I read the post everyday and I am so thankful for ADMIN who does such a wonderful job of giving us a space for the old faithful Hillary supporters.

    I am so pleased with Sarah Palin’s pick. I do not share her political view. But, I like a gutsy female politician. I hate – I absolutely loathe Nancy Pelosi kind of woman politican.

    I really want to see egg on DNC’s face. I HOPE really HOPE that would happen. I cannot stand Obama. I just don’t like him. Never did. He is the most phony, over-rated person there ever is.

    So – to sum up – I am happy about John Mccain’s VP pick – I am thankful for Admin. I want to thank my old friends here who still are here. And say hello to new people who are such great contributors. Hillaryis44 is a place called HOPE.

  • turndownobama-com

    Some info on Roe vs Wade, haven’t checked it myself.

    This is chief justice John Roberts statement on the case.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roberts
    It is about one third way down the page. In effect John Roberts states that in Roe v. Wade has established precedence and is to be respected as such. Stare decisis is what it is (the policy of the court to stand by precedence.)

  • henry

    The cabal which is kennedy/pelosi/kerry/reid/brazille attempted to steal this election to appoint who they thought should be the nominee. never did they think Senator Clinton would inspire such passion. Where I cannot believe they were such complete idiots was the convention itself. Hillary busted her ass and deserved to be treated with dignity instead they made it look like he trounced her. Fuck them!!!!

  • henry

    Another door bambi should not open is the jewish one– Farrakahn?

  • hwc

    It’s quite simple for me. I want my 22 year old daughter to see a female President during her lifetime. It is quite clear to me that this will never happen with the current Democrat Party and that it is the Republicans who will kick that can down the road.

    I intend to help them. I am very excited about the McCain Palin ticket. It’s Change I Can Believe In.

  • hwc

    The idiot Dems still have no clue who the Hillary voters are. Yes, there are liberal Dems who won’t vote for McCain. But, there are also a helluva lot of Reagan dems who appreciated Hillary’s strength on national security and fiscal responsibiity. Many are Catholic, who supported Hillary in spite of her pro-choice positions.

    The idiot Dems don’t even know their own party.

  • mj

    Hi Secret, HWC. Miss you guys.

  • mj

    texan4hillary Says:
    August 30th, 2008 at 1:20 am

    also found she singed in many holocaust education items

    Neat. Well, Wexler sounds like another smear artist.

  • Emjay

    A little late when I saw your note, but immediately thought of a Texas song and fell out of the LazyBoy.
    ————————-

    HillaryforTexas Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I am in TX. TX just went McCain by a mile. We LOVE strong gun-toting hunting fishing women in TX. :)
    ———————————
    Especially if the woman has Texas hair…
    (forget if it’s East Texas or West Texas hair.)
    :)

  • Illinois Underground

    Hillary said, “we have not worked this long and this hard to endure four more years of failed leadership.” This is true. But then we’ll finish her paragraph for her, “No way, No how, NO OBAMA.”

    Thanks for sharing this exciting, interesting, emotional day together, Hillfriends. The coming weeks will be interesting as we plan our next steps to hold all those accountable for their misogyny and hate and develop a long-term plan to raise Hillary to the highest office in the land.

  • Emjay

    Texas hair description

    Courtesy of Jerry Jeff Walker

  • texan4hillary

    palin will face many women and clinton dems. they will ask about equal pay and why doesnt mccain support it. they will ask about birth control access. she better be prepped. obots will screw around too

  • Illinois Underground

    Need to put on the group to-do list: write to Begala and Carville – too late, guys. Go home.

  • Illinois Underground

    T4H – right. Especially equal pay, amendments in the Senate now. Hillary chief sponsor, right?

  • mj

    T4H, she is supposedly pro-birth control. But, yeah, she has her work cut out for her.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Daily Cheeto (Kos) is spreading a vicious unfounded rumor that Sarah’s Down’s baby is really her 16 year old daughter’s.

    The Cheetos are just sick, sick people. Vile. And my party wants to cater to THEM, and throw me under the bus?

    Fine. I’ll crawl out from under that bus and hitch a temporary ride on the Straight Talk Express, just to run their asses off the road and watch them roll 26 times and burst into flames.

    That’s my plan.

  • texan4hillary

    obamabots via ben smith are and will smear her . wexler is calling her an antisemite for going to see buchanan 15 yrs ago. next it will equal pay and what is her stand on it and why doesnt mccain support it if he put a woman on the ticket. its comming very fast.

  • Illinois Underground

    I’m with you, H4T. Hillary for Senate Leader! Hillary in 2012!

  • Illinois Underground

    Goodnight, all.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Hillary will be along with a 2012 taxi for us, after the big explosion.

  • henry

    hill4 tx
    wow that goes so far beyond repugnant. I wish someone on Palins staff had the time to pursue the rat prick bastard who could be so foul and malicious.New politics,eh?

  • henry

    I am against
    OBAMA

  • birdgal

    henry and Hill4Tex, I saw that on another board, and I called it GARBAGE.

  • henry

    It is not just garbage it is vile. This is new politics? He pays this scum to perpetuate hurtful cruel accusations. Even if this one is not on his payroll he legitimized it by paying his minions to be an internet army. I remember months ago when it was discovered that the cum stains were auditing this site and reproducing select statements to paint us all as rascists. The comments went beyond that. Many had used real nmaes and email addresses which were ridiculed and harassed. New politics indeed. The little tiny boys were and are on Bambi’s payroll.

  • henry

    birdgal
    and children are ALWAYS OFF LIMITS

  • wbboei

    Debbie: thanks for the earlier post on election results. I have put them in a textual format for the paper as follows:(shocking)

    6. Primary Election Results: the primary consisted of 39 primaries and 13 caucuses. The caucuses were vulnerable to thug tactics whereas the primaries were not except for the democrat for a day tactics. The delegate allocation system was weighted to advantage African American areas. And, the results were as follows: In the primaries, 35 million votes were cast and Hillary won by 486, 000 votes but received only 35 more pledged delegates than Obama. In the caucuses however, only 1 million votes were cast and Obama won by 300,000 votes and received a whopping 206 more pledged delegates than Obama. This is conclusive proof that the system was rigged by Brazille to prevent Hillary from winning the nomination. Superdelegates who knew this and voted for Barack should be removed from office.

  • birdgal

    wbboei: correction in 3rd line from the botton: should read “pledged delegates more than Clinton.

  • texan4hillary

    here we go-bambi needs hillary to tell off palin and hill gets shit. jesus she aint vp. let claire handle it. sick of it
    Clinton Congratulates Palin, Says ‘We Should All Be Proud’

    by Russell Berman
    Fri, 29 Aug 2008 at 4:31 PM

    Senator Clinton has just released a rather gracious statement on Senator McCain’s selection of Governor Palin of Alaska as his running mate. “We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain,” Mrs. Clinton said. “While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”

    In tone, the statement matches the one put out by Senators Obama and Biden welcoming Ms. Palin to the race, and not the earlier statement from an Obama spokesman lambasting her lack of experience and ties to Bush administration policies. With a woman on the Republican ticket, Mr. Obama will likely need Mrs. Clinton now more than ever to take a more critical stance on Ms. Palin if he wants to keep the former first lady’s supporters from defecting to Mr. McCain.

  • mj

    Hillary had better not do that. I will be extremely pissed at her if she starts going after his VP pick. That’s just dumb. My gosh, she’s not his mother.

  • wbboei

    wbboei: correction in 3rd line from the botton: should read “pledged delegates more than Clinton.
    ———————————————–
    thanks birdgal!

  • henry

    *****CALING ALL BOTS/TROLL******
    most states have a limit on the time you may file for unemployment compensation. The GE is 11/4 so I would suggest you file by the 18th. Good luck in finding another job.

  • skmf12

    secret,

    so, what do you have to say about hillary?
    basically, why?

    in your opinion…

  • wbboei

    Mr. Obama will likely need Mrs. Clinton now more than ever to take a more critical stance on Ms. Palin if he wants to keep the former first lady’s supporters from defecting to Mr. McCain.
    ———————————————
    I agree. Hillary is not the attack dog. That is Bidens job. He is the vice president. If he had selected her for vp then it would be her job. Besides hes got the junkyard dog mccaskills.

    Who the fuck is this russel berman and who the fuck died and left him in charge. Maybe it should be russell bermans job to take on palin–fucking bot cocksucker that he is. On the other hand Hillary can play this one for all its worth if there is a good quid pro quo signed sealed and delivered. But any deal with Bambi has got to be COD because his credit stinks.

  • skmf12

    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    oh by the way, we hope to do a tribute to admin
    in about a week or so, now that everything is over…

    we will do it here on the blog, admin gave us permission…
    so i am glad that everyone is coming home…
    i’m sure you all have alot to say about admin…

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

  • wbboei

    The media and especiall russell berman has got to stop trying to run obamas campaign. We know they are in the bag for him, but if they want to give advice they should go on his payroll like the msnbc crew has. Their paychecks are tied to the success of his campaigns so we have no illusions about their objectivity.

    Under most union contracts there is a clause which requires extra compensation for work outside classification. Whole blade or no trade. Hillary has a bond with working class women which must never be violated.

  • skmf12

    okay, incase my post that just went into outerspace
    disappears..

    hopefully we will do a tribute to 44 and admin,
    i believe now that we are over the shock, we
    can do our tribute. week or so..

    glad that admins old friends are hanging out, cause
    it will be nice to have y’all post on that day…

    admin did give permission… 😀

    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

  • skmf12

    WBBOEI,

    now those are words we can believe in…

    “Who the fuck is this russel berman and who the fuck died and left him in charge. Maybe it should be russell bermans job to take on palin–fucking bot cocksucker that he is. On the other hand Hillary can play this one for all its worth if there is a good quid pro quo signed sealed and delivered. But any deal with Bambi has got to be COD because his credit stinks”

  • wbboei

    henry Says:

    August 30th, 2008 at 2:44 am
    *****CALING ALL BOTS/TROLL******
    most states have a limit on the time you may file for unemployment compensation. The GE is 11/4 so I would suggest you file by the 18th. Good luck in finding another job.
    ———————————————
    Henry, you have a marvelous sense of humor and an uncanny ability to accurately predict the future. Some uninformed jackass said yesterday that all human history is divided into two halves–before bararck and after barack. I share a dualistic view of history–so did Descartes, but my dualism is limited to the 67 days left in the campaign and the dividing line is before the whitey tapes and after the whitey tapes. Hey mo–see if Georgio Armani can get you out of that one.

  • hwc

    Josh Marshall has the same idiotic plan for Hillary:

    “And here’s the ad: A one-minute spot featuring Hillary Clinton herself, talking to the camera and laying into Palin on the issues, her complete lack of qualifications, and the temerity of the McCain campaign to think they could get away with this. Then she urges anyone watching who might have supported her to get out there and support Barack Obama.”

    Earth to Barack. Earth to Barack. Go get your own fucking attack dog. The reason that you bastards are in this mess is that you made it clear you had no role in the Democrat Party for Hillary Clinton. What’s in it for her to go around attacking women candidates. You azzhats should do it yourselves; it is your specialty. Try the one about periodically getting moody. That’s always a big hit.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Here we go again. Hillary has to iron his fucking shirts.

    No ball for Cinderella, but get busy mending my ballgown, bitch!

  • turndownobama-com

    Canaan Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    “he RECOGNIZES that women are a force that must be heard and heeded. And that, my friends, is a start.”

    Absolutely. Hillary supporters drove the Repubs to nominate a woman for Vice President. Who does McCain answer to? Mainstream American women or the Radical Right? We got the answer today.

    McCain, a maverick and a centrist, is asking for our help so he can tell the Radical Right to shove it. Now we know why Pat Buchanan was praising Obama’s b.s. speech last night.
    ===================

    Heh. You mean Buchanan wants McCain to lose for the same reason we want Obama to lose?

  • texan4hillary

    cant hilllary finally say no. really. she has given obama her conv speech. bill backed him. she is in debt. it is very demeaning for her and women. time to say obama earn your vote u bastard

  • wbboei

    The picture I saw in the newspaper today of bo and mo was just lovely. Him in his saville row drape suit (requires 3 fittings unless you know Lord Highcross City of London–Soros boss then they will do it for you in a day. And Michelle the essence of Angela Davis in a sheek sequined 1920s evening gown worn by Ruth Etting. And it damned near worked until late in the evening after a few glasses of don perriogn you hear that old familiar refrain: aint gonna kiss his ass–and I dont blame you a bit mo.

  • moononpluto

    If Hillary starts attacking Sarah now, she will lose all credibility she has on womens issues and the 18 million cracks because she can’t afford to do it, it would just look like sour grapes.

    She’ll steer well clear.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I swear, if this crap keeps up, I am about ready to just make myself one rule:

    Got a vagina? Don’t attack other women? You’ve got my vote. Period. I don’t give a fuck what your policies are.

    That approach to politics seems to have worked well enough to give the 12% AA community a hell of a lot of clout. I may just try it.

  • henry

    wbboei
    that idiot would have been spike lee.
    And just to know what an absoulute putz Lee is. I had a basement share on great jones right off the bowery my roommate who was at the time editing his sisters film. I was working as a bartender on Minetta Lane at the time and he came in around 10am and proceeded to say how charming the place was. then he didn’t leave. I was dead tired after working all night and there was this condesnding millionaire saying my hovel was charming. FUSPIKE lee

  • moononpluto

    Daily Cheeto (Kos) is spreading a vicious unfounded rumor that Sarah’s Down’s baby is really her 16 year old daughter’s.

    …………………………………………………………….

    Even if it was true, it just shows you, they are even better parents than we thought, keeping the child and raising it themselves, that would show responsibility. That would backfire on anyone trying that one. Evil bastards

  • henry

    moon
    i love you
    amen to what you said

  • HillaryforTexas

    Even if it was true..

    moon, only problem is, they are also saying they need to bring up that Sarah had amnio done at 4 months, since it “proves” she was “thinking about aborting”.

    They are pushing BOTH mutually exclusive smears. They do not care – they are just out to deliberately lie and smear.

  • henry

    from here on out i suggest that everytime a bot assert his/her self that we respond only with the instructions on how to file for unemployment.

  • gonzotx

    HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 30th, 2008 at 3:50 am
    Even if it was true..

    moon, only problem is, they are also saying they need to bring up that Sarah had amnio done at 4 months, since it “proves” she was “thinking about aborting”.

    They are pushing BOTH mutually exclusive smears. They do not care – they are just out to deliberately lie and smear.
    *************

    Thats stupid as all Gyn’s Rec a test so not only can you make an informed decision, but PREPARE for the future if nned be.

  • henry

    amino is standard
    and let them yell it from the rooftops because it only affirms that her convictions go to the bone. she has said that that little thing is perfection. let the obats smear they reinforce Mccain integertity. Can’t wait to relay the 16 yr old daughter story. Can we say backfire?

  • wbboei

    cant hilllary finally say no. really. she has given obama her conv speech. bill backed him. she is in debt. it is very demeaning for her and women. time to say obama earn your vote u bastard
    ——————————————–
    Yes she can. And I believe she will. He has reneged on his promise to relieve her debt. And the debt was created because they forced her to abruptly suspend her campaign–at which point contributions dried up.

  • moononpluto

    It is alleged he was fired because he resisted pressure from Mrs Palin’s administration to sack an Alaska state trooper who was in the midst of bitter divorce battle with the governor’s sister.

    ………………………………………………….

    Only half the story again, the guy was fired because he was not doing his job in recruiting troopers for their position (bet they didnt mention that), Palin also didnt fire him, she moved him and offered him a job elsewhere in the administration but he refused.

    The trooper has also been found guilty of various behaviours such as drinking on duty, tasering a 10yr old boy. Bet thay also never mentioned he was threatening threatened to kill the Gov’s father to “make him eat some lead” and wifebeating and also threatening the life of the Gov.

    Yeah i’d want him removed also.

  • moononpluto

    moon, only problem is, they are also saying they need to bring up that Sarah had amnio done at 4 months, since it “proves” she was “thinking about aborting”.

    ………………………….

    mute point because she didnt and frankly what person wouldnt stop and think if they thought the child would be severely disabled. Its a big burden, you know.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Oh, I l know, moon. But if they are pushing the amnio story, that mean they KNOW DAMN WELL that she was the one pregnant, not the daughter.

    But they are still pushing the other rumor too. Just flat out lying to spread nasty lies and bring her down.

  • turndownobama-com

    Paula Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    henry, If Obama loses she’ll get a lot of the blame, as will Dean. I doubt she’ll retain much power after that.
    ===============

    I hope you’re right. But Brazile actually was campaign manager for Gore in 2000, gave him bad advice about the recounts…. So how come she survived that?

  • moononpluto

    The people in Alaska love Sarah Palin. During her 20 months as governor, she has vetoed 300 (!) bills related to special interests.

    …………………

    Try refuting that bambi.

    Also you notice, they are all after her but quite frankly, with all of Obama and Bidens corruptness, they are the last people who should throw stones at anyone.

  • turndownobama-com

    Norma said: I HOPE that this choice of Palin WILL allow McCain to say “FU tothe radical fringe” in HIS party, and we can say the same to the leftists in ours. NEITHER is good for America

    ======================

    Yes. We’re lucky this is happening the same year. One vote for McCain improves BOTH parties.

  • moononpluto

    Disgusting, a woman nominated and they try and destroy her immediately, i hope the women are watching, this is what male democrats and some female ones at that, think of you and womens struggle.

    I’m just amazed that Hillary has not said anything about all this shit yet. Maybe she is behind closed doors.

  • henry

    MOONONPLUTO
    she was over 35 it is beyond standard. Has been for years!! The test can prepare an expectant couple. If you know your baby may not be what society deems as normal and you makethe decision to go to term. BRAVO. I think this aspectof who governor Palin is should be let go. It is about choice and she made a courageous one. Can we stop there.

  • texan4hillary

    as vp palin will adapt positions to not contradict mccain. they are similiar in vie of govt reform. the hurricane gives them a great opportunity to show leadership. im in tx and it could hit where i am. this thing will be a cat4 or 5 they say. mccain should save some money cut the bush cheney bit mon. and jsut do the 2 days for palin and mccain’s speeches. or hell i bet they could do somethingmorepowerful i think.

  • henry

    Well i thought that Hillary’s treatment at the convention had taken me to the utmost range of my wrath, I was mistaken. I find the evocation of a percieved disability as a means to a political end beyond my ability to express.

  • moononpluto

    me too, they really are a bunch of sacks of shit on the DEM side now, people i thought would never be that low have turned into the biggest scumbags and they say the Republicans are the nasty party, take a look in the mirror, you morons.

  • wbboei

    wbboei
    that idiot would have been spike lee.
    And just to know what an absoulute putz Lee is. I had a basement share on great jones right off the bowery my roommate who was at the time editing his sisters film. I was working as a bartender on Minetta Lane at the time and he came in around 10am and proceeded to say how charming the place was. then he didn’t leave. I was dead tired after working all night and there was this condesnding millionaire saying my hovel was charming. FUSPIKE lee
    ———————————————-
    Henry- great story Henry–I feel your pain just reading it. I associate Great Jones with the village but I think of the Bowery as a little uptown from there like 17th street toward Chelsey is. But there was also a Jones street which was harder to find–that may be the one I am thinking of. It is a great area–lots of energy unless spike lee is around. He is a true celebrity–famous for being famous–rather than for anything he has done.

  • moononpluto

    Asked if Mrs Palin was ready to be vice-president, Ms Keller pointed to her early executive success.

    “She was a very strong administrator for the city of Wasilla. During her time she reduced property tax by 75%.”

    ……………………………………………

    Jesus, who knew, a politician on the ticket that actually has reduced taxes and rebates, i guess she has that experience over bambi too.

  • wbboei

    me too, they really are a bunch of sacks of shit on the DEM side now, people i thought would never be that low have turned into the biggest scumbags and they say the Republicans are the nasty party, take a look in the mirror, you morons
    ————————————————
    yea moon. hard for them to claim the high moral ground now. in fact, it is no longer possible.

  • texan4hillary

    obamabots on the lose ridiculing palin for going to state college in idaho. these people are democrats-um democrats? we cant all be like bush and obama and go to ivy leagues. god forbid someone should work for a living. the party is ready to cleave-a workers party and a snot rag party.

  • wbboei

    henry, If Obama loses she’ll get a lot of the blame, as will Dean. I doubt she’ll retain much power after that.
    ===============

    I hope you’re right. But Brazile actually was campaign manager for Gore in 2000, gave him bad advice about the recounts…. So how come she survived that?

    ———————————————
    This time she entered into a conspiracy with rove and rigged the system to defeat a winning candidate and corronate a losing one. I know how Judge Roy Bean would handle that and he wouldnt need to ask Lilly Langtree.

  • Gezahegn

    I have been reading a lot about Palin since this article was posted. I believe our prediction is sure to work.

    McCain + Palin. One has what the other lacks. They make a wonderful team, a winning team.

  • moononpluto

    obamabots on the lose ridiculing palin for going to state college in idaho. these people are democrats-um democrats? we cant all be like bush and obama and go to ivy leagues.
    ………………………..

    Sounds fine to me, i’d sooner have someone who didnt get a place in a rich school because of who they know. That would play very well in low money blue collar places, it means she’s one of the little people.

    I’d be pissed off if the Democrats try to make out state college is demeaning, we all cant afford Princeton and Harvard.

    Maybe thats why Biden and Bambi are pissed off she’s not one of the scumbag elite and they hate her for not being one.

  • moononpluto

    The Democrat party is not a working mans party anymore, its an elitist party and McCain needs to expose that.

    The Democratic party has forgotten its working man roots and they need a big ass whooping to remind them.

  • wbboei

    I have been reading a lot about Palin since this article was posted. I believe our prediction is sure to work.

    McCain + Palin. One has what the other lacks. They make a wonderful team, a winning team.
    ———————————————

    Thus far, I have been impressed with McCains campaign manager Rick Davis. Theit base is very effective when they are motivated and Palin will motivate them for sure. Years ago Teamster President Hoffa Jr. offered Karl Rove the AFL-CIO support and Rove waved him off. He told Hoffa we have a more important group the Christian right. Obviously that group has changed over the years but they still have infuence.

  • moononpluto

    McCain’s pick of the 44 year-old, is a direct challenge to Obama and his ticket with old-timer, Joe Biden. She was clearly picked to face down Obama’s grand illusions.

    Part of the McCain strategy is to attack the myth of Obama.

    “She’s down to earth, a hunter and a fisherman, really connects with the people of Alaska. She’s really the new face of the Party.” … “She’s a strong, pro-life, supply side, drill-drill-drill ethics reformer.”

    Palin, a self-styled hockey mum, has been an Alaskan governor for less than two years but her lack of Washington experience more than matches that of Illinois senator, Obama.

    She’s also got something else going for her, which will appeal to voters – she’s a working mum with five children.

    Obama’s anointment at the ‘Temple of Obama’ is yesterday’s news. As the Washington Post put it – more pageantry than politics.

    Events move fast in US presidential elections. McCain now has a woman, youth and reality on his side. The Obama-Biden ticket has some catching up to do.

  • moononpluto

    What Palin Does (no 10 is my fav)

    1. Steps on the story of Obama’s speech (and convention), and possibly the bounce coming from them, and wipes them off the news cycle. The Sunday news shows will be all-Palin, all of the time.

    2. Sends Republicans into their convention on a huge head of steam.

    3. Wipes out the image of McCain as the crotchety elder and brings back that of the fly-boy and gambler, which is much more appealing, and the genuine person.

    4. Revs up the base AND excites independents, which no one else in the party, or perhaps in the world, could have accomplished.

    5. Puts youth, change, and history on both of the tickets.

    6. May detach some young people, especially women.

    7. May attach some women pissed off about Hillary.

    8. As a pro-life super-achiever, puts feminists in a tizzy.

    9. Revives some of the double-edged nature of the Democratic primary, which featured a black vs. a
    female trail-blazer, and put both sides on notice on sensitivity issues. Democrats used to raising charges of racism against Obama’s critics may face charges of sexism and/or condescension if they try to diss her.

    10. Steps on Obama’s claims to have been a reformer, as he reformed nothing (much less the corrupt mare’s nest of Chicago arrangements), while she was a dragon-slayer up in Alaska.

    11. As a mother of five, one a Down Syndrome baby, helps her side take on the Democrats on abortion extremism and the Born Alive bill.

    12. Reignites the deep and unhealed stresses inside the Democrats, some of whom will now wonder more loudly than ever why they didn’t pick Hillary.

    13. Counters Michelle in a way Cindy couldn’t.

    14. Counter-intuitively, makes the issue of Obama’s light resume more potent than ever. Her lack of experience is no more than his is. And he’s–to use a term from Alaska, and the Iditarod–their lead dog.

  • wbboei

    moon: if you happen to be corresponding with the bots you might remind them of two things:

    1. first, the statement by wm buckley: I would rather be ruled by the first 200 names in the Brooklyn phone directory than the entire faculty of Harvard Law School.

    2. second, a statement by my long departed civil procedure, evidence and admiralty professor who finished first in his class at University of Chicago: if the entire faculty of Harvard Law School caught tomaine poisoning, died and they replaced them with baboons Harvard would still have a great reputation for 50 years.

  • moononpluto

    precisely, its like lawyers, no one would miss them.

    When i look at Obama Biden, i see two lawyers.

    When i look at McCain Palin, i see a soldier and a mother.

    The 2 lawyers thing kind of finished it for me as to who to vote for

    So maybe the best way we can fram this election is

    2 schyster lawyers vs a soldier and a mother.

  • moononpluto

    2 lawyers vs a soldier and a mother.

    Which team do you trust with your money?
    Which team do you trust to protect your kids?
    Which team do you trust to protect your country?
    Which team will tell the truth?

  • wbboei

    10. Steps on Obama’s claims to have been a reformer, as he reformed nothing (much less the corrupt mare’s nest of Chicago arrangements), while she was a dragon-slayer up in Alaska
    ———————————————
    Well now not so fast. He is too a reformer. He reduced the low income housing oversight board from 15 to 9, and allowed private develpers to cash in on housing projects which handled by public entities. So Palin reformed the system to benefit her constituents and Obama reformed the system to benefit contributors like Rezko. Thus, in the world of Axelrod who believes in neither truth nor proportionality they are both reformers and bwaaaaaaaaaaak has put the subject totally off limits to the press by saying I am not going to attack you on reform efforts and I do not expect you to attack me for it either. Nice.

  • wbboei

    moon on pluto: good stuff but make it lawyers using slight of circumlocutions to defend a corrupt system but a soldier and a mother trying to reform that system and save the country. Shakespeares advice: first kill all the lawyers/

  • wbboei

    But Shakespeare as eveyone knows was speaking figuretively. In fact I had a good friend who was killed in his office at 101 California Street in San Francsico by an irate client and the hell of it was it wasnt even his client. My friend had tried to defuse a hostage situation and it did not work.

  • mp

    I watched the Palin intro speech again.I was touched by something I missed the first time around.

    At the end, she went and kissed her family…one by one including the little baby held by her older daughter.
    Then McCain also went to the baby and appeared to touch the baby’s cheeks;
    it was so spontaneous that I was touched by both of them doing this.

    Whatever over feels about being pro-choice/pro-life, that made me feel that the issue is so difficult.

    I admire Sarah Palin for her COURAGE more than I did the first time I saw that speech. And I am pro-choice!!!

  • wbboei

    mp: interesting. There was that great quote earlier today that people do not remember our exact words but the do remember how we made them feel.

  • moononpluto

    I am pro choice also but I also understand where people are pro life, its their beliefs and as long as they are not advocating killing doctors and buening down clinics then i am fine.

    I have strong objections though to people who are reckless and get pregnant just because they cannot be arsed to use contraception and then think they can just wash the problem away.

    I saw one a little while back, a girl i know, she was partying all the time, and you know damn well she aint being protected and just had her 3rd abortion, and that i think is taking a womens right for choice for granted and completely taking the piss. She needs a slap. Unfortunately there are many like her.

  • wbboei

    from here on out i suggest that everytime a bot assert his/her self that we respond only with the instructions on how to file for unemployment
    ——————————————–
    henry the other thing they may need is directions to the nearest mental health clinc.

  • mp

    wbboei:

    Thanks…I must say she and McCain made me feel hopeful today after these last few months!

  • mp

    I agree..the young ones seem to take abortions and its availability too much for granted.
    I see a need for a healthy debate on this issue – outside of the political arena; especially not in a presidential year.

    I convinced a 17yr old girl in Denver this week why I supported McCain since she was concerned about this issue.
    I told her that I am believe it to be state rights issue and also that a lot of groups like NARAL and planned parenthood exist
    and misuse a lot of FEDERAL funding. I want these groups to raise money from private donors!!!!

    This election year had taught me that there is so much private monney out there, I want less federal funding for some causes.

  • moononpluto

    CNN was so in the tank for bambi last night it was laughable.

    Wolk Blitzer was chief propoganda minister.

    He kept going on about the “gop in political panic” which obviously meant the dems were the ones panicking.

  • moononpluto

    Best line of the day

    “So we get inexperienced Sarah Palin if John McCain dies, but we get inexperienced Barack Obama if Barack Obama lives?”

    Hard sell there.

  • moononpluto

    Gail Collins (NY Times) writes that Joe Biden may already be practicing his drop-dead line for the VP debate:

    “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine, and governor, you’re no Hillary Clinton.”

    To which my response would be, “plagurising again Senator”.

  • wbboei

    Wulf= bubba mieister

  • moononpluto

    People are actually saying with a straight face that Obama has more experience governing then Palin because he’s been running for President for the 3 years — this is what the Dems are reduced to in defending that empty suit.

    That rationale right there is enough to get me to vote for McCain/Palin.

  • wbboei

    Gail Collins (NY Times) writes that Joe Biden may already be practicing his drop-dead line for the VP debate:

    “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine, and governor, you’re no Hillary Clinton.”
    ———————————————-
    Collins is a blithering idiot? See how patisan she is. Trying to turn Sara into Quale.

  • henry

    the new york times is dead.
    it is truly a sad day in America when the NY Post becomes the most objective paper in americas greatest city!!!!!

  • henry

    wbboei
    Jones street is in the West Village. I lived on Great Jones ST in the 90’s. great jones ran from the bowery to west lafayette. considered east village then. i think realators now call it NOHO(north of housten) Cbgb’s was right around the corner, I am sure my 1100 dollar basement apartment goes for at least 5x that now.Remember the origanal Tower records well grat jones was a block from there.

  • henry

    wbboei
    jean-michelle basquiat had his studio/loft a few doors down. I think he was 39 i was 59 Great Jones Street,

  • moononpluto

    Most of the DNC convention seemed to be about trying to make up for the “small towns in Pennsylvania” comment and wooing the “ordinary” voter with tons and tons of populist rhetoric and a procession of boring “ordinary” speakers — the directors of regional NOW chapters and such.

    But once again they reveal their elitism and disdain for “fly over” (yup thats what they called rural america) America. The Palin selection was brilliant; it immediately makes Obama/Biden look like the elitist, “Washington” ticket.

    The reason Palin is more experienced than Obama is this: Palin holds a position in which she is directly accountable to the voters. She was an address. She is “the man”. And she has made daily decisions affecting the people who’d voted her in.

    Obama was a ****state senator**** Hellloooo. Most people in America don’t even know who their state senators are, (local name for people sitting pretty and getting favours) let alone holding them responsible when things go wrong and Obama certainly never took any responsibility for his poor ward.

  • moononpluto

    Feb. 11, 1964 — Born in Sandpoint, Idaho.

    1982 — Graduated from Wasilla High School in Wasilla, Alaska.

    1987 — Graduated with a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.

    August 29, 1988 — Married Todd Palin, whom she would have five children with.

    1992-1996 — Entered public life, serving two terms on the Wasilla City Council.

    1996-2002 — Elected mayor of Wasilla City, Alaska, for two terms until term limits forced her from office.

    2002 — Lost her first statewide campaign for the GOP nomination for lieutenant governor.

    2002 — Frank Murkowski left the Senate to become governor and named Palin chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

    2003 — Split with the party leaders by battling Randy Ruedrich, the head of Alaska’s Republican Party.

    2006 — Upset then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican primary, then defeated former two-term Gov. Tony Knowles, a Democrat, in the general election.

    2007 — Pressured lawmakers to get the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act passed, to build a natural gas pipeline to deliver 35 trillion cubic feet of North Slope natural gas to market.

    Aug. 29, 2008 — Chosen as Sen. John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate in the 2008 election.

    …………………………

    1987 — Graduated with a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.

    Something tells me, she’ll know how to take on the journalists and will be writing the press releases.

  • moononpluto

    From Hillbuzz

    Too funny: we actually overheard people on the street in Chicago today who thought McCain picked Tina Fey as his VP.

    Well it is Chicago.

  • moononpluto

    From Hillbuzz LMAO

    I thought she looked familiar. Also, with her up-do, she kinda reminds me of Will and Grace’s Karen Walker. I can just picture her looking at Obama, doing that finger-waving thing and syaing, “Oh, honey, what’s this? What do you call this?”

  • henry

    I know who my sneators are but no clue as to who is my local mayor or those who represent me in the house. I have lived here less than a year, but that is still sad. HRC was my senator last year!!! I voted for her and will in 2012.

  • henry

    Please let tina fey and snl run with the pseudo election. they brought the misogony or at least the bias to the forefront. then the following week …… well we all remember that anger

  • moononpluto

    Karen Walker, what a hoot.

    I can see Sarah going into a debate turns to Biden “her sonny take my coat, theres a good boy, now scoot”

  • ABM90

    I will vote for McCain and Palin with mixed feelings as a life long Dem.
    I will continue to support Hillary and urge other loyalists to get
    her debt paid.We owe it to her.She saved our country from BO
    I will help lead a charge to have her elected as Sen. Majority
    Leader and she will be rewarded by both sides for the hard work
    and effort she has shown and her willingness to take the hits from th treacherous DNC “Dirty Dozen”. As leader,she will have
    the power to be in control of legislation and give out a taste of
    what and how it feels when a woman scorned fights back.
    As for “Hot Lips Obama “,he who would be King will be just a
    a black shadow of a bad period in our political history.I feel very positive that Hillary,McCain and Palin will team up to rescue us from being made a third world nation by Barack WHO ?

    By ABM90 I may not be around by then but I relish the thought of havind had the pleasure of being part of the action
    Thanks guys and girls!

  • moononpluto

    In this year’s 2,000-mile Tesoro Iron Dog contest, Todd Palin and racing partner Scott Davis were trying to defend their 2007 championship when Palin broke his arm in a crash. It was 400 miles from the finish line, but he refused to quit, coming in fourth, cheered on by the parka-clad governor waving a checkered flag.

    “There are racers who throw in the towel pretty quick, without broken arms, with just a head cold,” executive race director Laura Bedard said Friday. “This speaks highly of his character.”

    This sort of thing will resonate throughout heartland America ….that is one tough guy!!! A mans man and i bet his haircut doesnt cost 400 dollars.

    The Palins are going to become popular beyond belief, there is just something about them, it really reminds me of Bill and Hillary in 1992 only with gender reversal and a different party.

  • moononpluto

    McCain/Palin now has the all American coolness factor…fishing in Alaska, moose hot dogs, piloting a small airplane, husband champion snowmobiler (nickname “First Dude”), great kids, stay at home dad, she’s a hunter, he works out in oil fields….that is so COOOOOL!!!!!

    Is it just me or is Obama now officially boring as hell, the young vote are gonna like the Palins in abundance, I’d say get Todd out with the kids on the youth vote, he may well take that vote from Bambi.

  • moononpluto

    Obama’s hacks claim Biden was the Ham-and-cheese sandwich answer to Barry’s appeal to the arugula crowd.
    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20222685,00.html

    Look at that picture, thats a winner folks. It just looks natural.

    This Country is gonna go for the mooseburger and I’ll bet Joe is ripping out the hair plugs and gnawing his manicured nails today, cursing his decision to accept his spot on the next losing Democrat ticket.

    Buck up Joe. You’ve got the next 8 years in the Judiciary Committee to make an ass of yourself hollering at McCain/Palin’s SCOTUS nominees.

    Seriously, not joking here but is it possible the republicans have found their own version of the Clintons?

  • carbynew

    Schwarzenegger likes the Palin pick
    It would be ‘terrific’ to have a female helping run things, he says
    August 30, 2008

    It didn’t take Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger long to zero in on what he liked about a John McCain-Sarah Palin Republican ticket: He likes the gender balance.

    When asked about McCain’s running mate choice at an appearance in San Diego on Friday, Schwarzenegger said it would be “terrific” to have “a man and a woman running things together” for the first time in the White House.

    “I’m a big believer that women can do just as great a job if not a better job than guys can do, and I’ve seen this in my own house,” Schwarzenegger said, slipping in the usual plug for his wife, Maria Shriver.

    Schwarzenegger said he’d met Palin at a national governors conference. “She is a very effective leader, and she is a reformer, and I like her very much because she has the strength to go and push back,” he said. “I think she is cleaning up the mess up there, and I think that she has tremendous courage.”

    Schwarzenegger was referring to Palin’s ethics-based campaign for governor two years ago. He also said she had fixed the state’s budget problems while resisting efforts to build Alaska’s derisively nicknamed “Bridge to Nowhere,” a national symbol of pork barrel spending.

    “Even though she’s new . . . she’s very, very smart and she’s a reformer,” he said. “So I like that pick.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-trailarnold30-2008aug30,0,6895270.story

  • carbynew

    Taking on Palin: It’s about him

    Democrats spent Friday figuring out how to make the case against Sarah Palin, and they seem to have settled on a line: It’s not about her; it’s about him.

    The official case, at least, will be that the choice of a figure whom he barely knows, who has little experience on the world stage, to potentially serve as president starting next January reflects badly on McCain’s judgment and temperament, and demonstrates a worrying tendency to shoot from the hip.

    In this age of endless campaigns, it’s yet another way in which the campaign itself — rather than anything external — is being used as a mark of character. The McCain campaign, for its part, casts the choice as evidence that he’s a maverick.

    Whatever the official attack is, however, there’s a remarkable broadside under way against Palin in e-mails and comments and blogs attacking her character, her readiness and her family life; and more responsibly, and perhaps more dangerously, in the new liberal reporting apparatus, parts of which — notably Talking Points Memo — have already begun zeroing in on elements of her record in Alaska.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Taking_on_Palin_Its_about_him.html?showall
    *****************************************************
    The Democratic? Taliban Party better watch out…because they are the ones who owns the SEXISM and MYSOGINY and that will backfire on the party.

  • carbynew

    Seniors thrown under the bus by Obama.

    Obama ad portrays McCain as clueless
    By: Mike Allen
    August 30, 2008 08:28 AM EST

    The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Sunday released an ad echoing the line from his acceptance speech that John “McCain doesn’t get it.”

    The ad will air on national cable, the campaign said.

    The wording suggests that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is bumbling and out of touch – underscoring Obama’s generational appeal and hinting obliquely at McCain’s age – 72 as of Friday.

    The ad was billed as a response to McCain’s selection Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. But mainly it’s another chance to show McCain with President Bush — twice in 30 seconds.

    The is called “No Change.” An Obama release says it shows “how John McCain’s choice will not change the fact that he still desires to just offer four more years of the same failed Bush policies.”

    Here’s the script:

    Female narrator, over dreary music: “Well, he’s made his choice. But, for the rest of us… there’s still no change. McCain doesn’t get it, calling this broken economy ‘strong.’ Wants to keep spending ten billion a month in Iraq.”

    Then it shows McCain walking with Bush in the Rose Garden: “And votes with George 90 percent of the time.”

    And McCain presenting Palin at their Ohio rally: “So, while this may be his running-mate…”

    And Bush hugging McCain: “…America knows this is John McCain’s agenda.”

    And a photo of the White House: “And we can’t afford four more years of the same.”

    Then Obama says: “I’m Barack Obama. And I approve this message.”

    Obama drew cheers and applause when he said in his acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High, in Denver: “It’s not because John McCain doesn’t care. It’s because John McCain doesn’t get it.”

    dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=1392DAF7-18FE-70B2-A8E02284390CBE08

  • carbynew

    So, you say its change you want?

    Who knew that the old dog was going to learn a few new tricks? Americans (at least Republicans) are indeed ready for the first female in the executive branch at the highest level. And I predict that Sarah won’t only make a great vice president, but soon a great president as well.

    I have written for some years that Republicans would proudly vote for an American version of Margaret Thatcher. Palin is indeed a younger, better looking (sorry Maggie) version of Thatcher and Republicans will be proud to support her. So will many old Democrats and Independents not yet entranced by secular socialist sludge mainlined into them daily!

    But more importantly, Palin represents real government reform as her entire political career is built upon that foundation, Life, Liberty and the right of every American to define and pursue Happiness under their own steam, without Washington elitists “wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.…” Jefferson

    But don’t think the Left won’t attacker her!

    Before McCain could even introduce her in Dayton, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued a blazing statement from camp Obama, “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.”

    Well, what do ya know…? The not-so-democratic party “of the common people” lashed out with more classic Hillary Clinton treatment of yet another well qualified female candidate.

    I’m starting to get the impression that “the party of the common man” doesn’t think much of average small town people, whom I assume “cling to their guns and bibles” in utter disdain for the very kind of inside the beltway elitists backstabbing that earned the current Democrat congress the lowest approval ratings in U.S. history.

    Isn’t it interesting that the same people who have been telling us that Obama’s blank presidential résumé is no problem, are now telling us that Palin (a female like Clinton) is unqualified to be vice president because “she has no foreign policy experience” and has only been mayor of a small town and governor of Alaska.

    According to camp Obama, Palin’s nine years of executive experience is not enough, even though Obama and Biden have none at all. Palin has been a very successful governor for two years. Obama has been an absentee freshman senator for 143 days… Palin is unqualified?

    Which town was Obama or Biden mayor of again? Which state was it that Obama or Biden earned their executive wings in? Oh yeah, I remember now…. NONE!

    Sarah Palin knows exactly what kind of low-life attacks she signed up for when she agreed to join McCain on the ticket. After all, Palin watched as Howard Dean, Obama and the Washington DNC elite torched Hillary’s campaign and went so far as to disenfranchise their own voters just to keep Hillary from winning the nomination. Sarah should expect better treatment?

    But I feel confident that the “moose hunting barracuda” can handle the spineless likes of junkyard bully Joe Biden and Barockstar Obama. As a matter of fact, the immediate low-classed attack from the Obambi campaign demonstrates just how intimidated they are by McCain’s choice of running mates…

    I bet Sarah won’t let these two senate elitists bully her out of the race the way Hillary did…

    I must say, as McCain’s first executive decision, he’s on the right track now!

    newsbyus.com/index.php/article/1403

  • NewMexicoFan

    Gutsav is now a Cat 3 and might be a Cat 4 or 5 still headed south of New Orleans with the North East Wall projected to hit New Orleans. Not a good scenerio. That means the strongest wall of the Hurricane will be bring tremendous water into the area where they have rebuilt those Levees.

    There are some computer models that have it going further West. I hope for the levees sake in NO that it does.

    McCain’s handling of this along with his new VP is critical.

  • carbynew

    Palin in Michigan

    There are few states as decisive than Michigan, so it was with interest that I read state GOP chair Saul Anuzis’s analysis of Palin will play there.

    Of course, it’s not exactly dispassionate. But he makes a good case for why this may be the state where she can help most.

    From Saul’s morning email blast:

    MICHIGAN EXCITED ABOUT PALIN…Of course, for Michigan’s sake, many would have loved to see our favorite son [Mitt Romney] be on the ticket, but there is a lot to get excited about with Sarah Palin. This helps with the voters that propelled Granholm to victory in Michigan: suburban voters – especially women in places like Oakland County and West Michigan. It will excite the base who feel so strongly about a pro-life conservative candidate. She will appeal strongly to our voters all across Michigan who believe in the right to bear arms – and can speak the same language of the hundreds of thousands of Michigan voters who spend their fall hunting deer in northern Michigan. Don’t forget snowmobiling!

    And her reputation as a reformer with no tolerance for government officials who abuse power and don’t serve citizens will have great resonance in Michigan that have been dragged through the Kilpatrick scandals for the last year and has watched Granholm bring Michigan progress to a screeching halt. A Governor Palin would have acted…led.

    Palin sends a strong signal to Washington, that change is on its way. She has a record on reform that is second to none and nicely compliments one of McCain’s central themes of changing the culture in Washington.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/Palin_in_Michigan.html

  • freckles

    Hey, hey, HEY hwc!! Don’t let the DNC or the O campaign catch you using logic or intelligence or reason …esp. when you make an important point that seems to escape the O campaign (but then what doesn’t :) )

    “The idiot Dems still have no clue who the Hillary voters are. Yes, there are liberal Dems who won’t vote for McCain. But, there are also a helluva lot of Reagan dems who appreciated Hillary’s strength on national security and fiscal responsibiity. Many are Catholic, who supported Hillary in spite of her pro-choice positions.”

    Dems, immersed in ultra-liberal orthodoxy, think that
    1. Hill’s supporters are all women.
    2. They agree with every one of her positions.
    3. They will do whatever she says.
    4. They will never vote for Palin so they will have to vote for Obama.

    Wrong!

    They cannot fathom that we looked at every candidate of every party and thought Hillary was a standout. We are not angry just because Obama was insulting, but because he and the DNC cheated us out of the candidate for whom the majority of us voted.

    We will now use our vote to ensure that this never happens again. The party that benefits is far less important that we say, No more!

  • NewMexicoFan

    Democracy first (sound like Country First doesn’t it)
    Party second

    We got just the opposite from the Democratic party. I still remember people saying here from the O camp not to let HRC anywhere near the leadership table.

    I think they thought when she was deprived of what the popular vote gave her, they were home free.

    GUESS WHAT, THE REPS HAVE GIVEN YOU YOUR WORST NIGHTMIRROR.

    Country First, and Tough Women Leaders do count.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Ramassen report is out. Palin debut more favorable than Biden.

    Also, looks like there was no real bounce from the Dems convention, if I read that right.

    I will let the number people give you the details.

  • freckles

    Things you will hear about Palin:

    1. She supported Buchanan so she must be anti-Semitic. I guess New Hampshire must be anti-Semitic. This is a natural extension of “If you vote for Hillary — you must be racist.”

    2. She called Hillary a whiner. I saw the tape and what she says is it doesn’t help women to complain about unfair coverage. You just have to push through it. And, “with all due respect”, she ventured, “you can’t be PERCEIVED to be whining.” At no time did she say that that’s what Hillary was doing. (The Fox fools who ran this, went right back to “Wow! The Hillary supporters won’t like that”)

    The more they attack, the more I like Palin.

  • carbynew

    Senator John Mccain Did What Senator Barack Obama Did Not Do

    English poet and metaphysical person, John Donne said it best: ´No man is an island-´ John Donne´s Meditation XVII-

    For if we want to achieve a goal in life, we need help from those who might be in a position to assist us in one way or the other.

    And this presidential elections year saw a democratic political candidate and now the official Democratic Nominee, Senator Barack Obama waste one opportunity to obtain the help that would ensure victory come November. And what he, Senator Obama did not do, Senator John Mccain did, he acquired a female running mate.

    During this democratic primaries, Senator Hillary Clinton nabbed eighteen million votes. Sexism and harsh feelings towards the Clintons aside, if you are the Democratic Presidential Nominee, would you not choose Senator Hillary Clinton to be your running mate to ensure that those eighteen million votes are yours on election day?

    Apparently Senator Barack Obama did not think so. So when Senator John Mccain and the Republican Presidential Nominee chose a woman, Sarah Palin, to be his running mate, many persons in our midst must have thought this to be a wise move.

    Although this does not necessarily mean that Senator Mccain will nab most of the women voters, be they democratic or republican supporters, he just might nab those who still strongly support Senator Hillary Clinton.

    For when it counts on election day, it just might come down to this, who knows? Some may see the choosing of a female running mate by Senator John Mccain as being a wise move indeed, whereas others might now look at Senator Barack Obama and think, well, he could have had eighteen million votes on his side, but let it slip by not choosing Senator Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

    We will see come election day in November 2008. We will see.

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/72724

  • kostner

    NewMexicoFan ,

    yeah, the most striking number is that 63% of unaffiliated voters have a good impression of her. I believe the soccer mom type will decide the election. The nasty smear & lies against her just makes me sick to my stomach. I’m now convinced the current democratic party needs to be destroyed once and for all…
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    Sarah Palin has made a good first impression. Before being named as John McCain’s running mate, 67% of voters didn’t know enough about the Alaska governor to have an opinion. After her debut in Dayton and a rush of media coverage, a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 53% now have a favorable opinion of Palin while just 26% offer a less flattering assessment.

    Palin earns positive reviews from 78% of Republicans, 26% of Democrats and 63% of unaffiliated voters. Obviously, these numbers will be subject to change as voters learn more about her in the coming weeks. Among all voters, 29% have a Very Favorable opinion of Palin while 9% hold a Very Unfavorable view.

    By way of comparison, on the day he was selected as Barack Obama’s running mate, Delaware Senator Joseph Biden was viewed favorably by 43% of voters.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Kostner

    I thought the 63% stat was the most important one also. Thanks for bring the figures in.

  • JanH

    wbboei & Debbie,

    Thanks very much for the primary election breakdown.

  • carbynew

    Gov. Sarah Palin: A Surprise Breath of Fresh Air
    Posted by Danielle Fish August 30, 2008 08:10 AM

    Breath deep my friends, some real change just blew in. We were all surprised at McCain’s pick yesterday of Gov Sarah Palin of Alaska. I mean most of us here in Massachusetts, including myself, were pulling for Gov Mitt Romney to get the nod. I’m not worried about Mitt his credentials and leadership skills are timeless and I suspect we’ll see him again.

    Palin was a bold choice and she’s getting a very warm reception across the country. Sadly, already the media has engaged slings and arrows. If it isn’t the media’s candidate, boy, they get ugly. Let’s give this woman some credit before we tear her apart, shall we:

    – she’s worked at many levels of government and will bring a thorough understanding of what the Average Joe is suffering these days in terms of jobs and the economy. In fact she doesn’t just understand it, she’s practically living it. Child with disabilities, mother of 5, hard-working, blue collar husband, two working parents. Washington insiders are pretty insulated from the day to day – her’s is a voice we need.

    – she’s a woman. Why not have the other half of our country equally representive in our highest executive branch? The Democrats haven’t cornered the market on making history.

    – above all else – she has executive experience. Even if in a shorter dose than some other VP contenders, she has held he title of ‘the buck stops here.” That’s a claim that neither McCain, Obama, or Biden can make.

    That’s a candidate I’ll take “in a heartbeat” any day!

    So, welcome Gov. Sarah Palin to the Republican ticket!

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/massvoices/2008/08/gov_sarah_palin_a_surprise_bre.html

  • JanH

    My thoughts and prayers go out to Governor Palin and her family. I may not agree with all of her stances, but just thinking about what the obamabots are going to do to her, what the DNC will do to her, and what Bo and his campaign thugs will do…well if it is anything like what they did to their own…i.e. Hillary, then this race is going to get even uglier than it already is.

    The Democratic Party is determined to destroy its dignity and platform once and for all.

    How very sad for all of us.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Palin is a women who is liked at the 80% level in the State she is the Chief Executive Officer, but not as much liked by the Rep party there.

    Why, because she has couragously veto a number of special interest bills. I think also she is dislike by the State Rep Chair, a person after my own heart.

    Something special is guiding this person’s career. She has gone against the establishment, but won the support and hearts of her voters.

    There also has been doors opened for her at the right time in her career which has nothing to do with the party or who she knows.

    I think will really appeal to the Independent voter.

  • kostner

    NewMexicoFan,

    the rollout of Sarah Palin has obviously diminished Obama’s ‘speech momentum’. There’s very little movement on the daily tracker.

    Just imagine if mccain rolls out a Romney/Pawleny… Yuk…

  • kostner

    The gaffe machine Joe Biden continues his gaffe tour. Yesterday he claimed he’s ‘getting hard’… Today, per ABCNews.

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    Does Biden Need to Watch His Language?
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    ABC’s Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller Report:

    For Senator Biden – known for his loose lips and frequent gaffes – every word is being closely watched now that he’s a Vice Presidential candidate.

    At the new ticket’s first public event on their bus tour throughout swing states, Senator Biden said a word that was taboo – at least for his running mate – just days before.

    “I knew somebody famous was gonna come out of Scranton and I sure as HELL knew it wasn’t gonna be me so I left,” Biden joked of his upbringing.

    Using the word “hell” in front of an audience is something that Obama frowned upon and corrected his own mistake at a town hall just last week in Wisconsin.

    “If we can spend 10-12 billion dollars a month in Iraq we sure as HELL can pay 10-12 million dollars – billion dollars right here in the United States,: Obama said Sunday in Eau Claire.

    A moment later Obama stopped and said, “I apologize by the way, I usually say ‘heck,’ especially after church. That sort of slipped out. Sorry kids.”

    Senator Biden and Obama didn’t offer up such an apology to the audience of 8,000 in Pennsylvania tonight.

    Biden was also heard to say “goddamn” at a meet-and-greet with Denver firefighters on Thursday. Thanking them for saving his sons’ lives in a 1972 car crash that killed his wife and daughter, Biden said, “My two boys are alive because of you guys…I’m alive because my fire company got me in the middle of a goddamn snow storm before my aneurysm burst.”

    In 1988, Biden needed surgery for two berry aneurysms. And that expletive was not the only one Biden dropped in Denver. Speaking before Pennsylvania delegates earlier in the day, Biden used the word “hell” at least twice.

  • NewMexicoFan

    The Courage it took to Turn down the Bridge to Nowhere.

    Gov Palin does not just have more expereince than O, she had that experience as a women. Every women know not only must theY qualify, but they must over qualify.

    First, she was was a state winning Basketball team, as a point guard. This young experience gave her tremedous pressure, and also focus. You don’t become State Champions in any state in any sport without this. This should be contrasted with a person that plays pick up basketball.

    Second, Gov Palin is a reluctant leader. If you think she started out saying she wanted to be in politics and be VP, you are mistaken. This political career happened to her, and so she owes no one.

    Third. She went from her small town to Gov of a State that is as complicated as any. She make A number of executive decisions a day (IMPACTING NATIONALY AND INTERNATIONALLY). She has made those decisions at the peril of her party. Again, she owes no one. Contrast with O who went into the legislative body of Illinois, and had a number of bills handed to him by the majority chair, and his name put on them as they passed. He has recently moved into the national scene, and he habiltually votes present, to further his Presidential bid, which he has been focusing on for some time. He owes people bigtime.

    She has surrounded herself with her family and her voters, both parties. If there is corruption in her party or elsewhere, she tells them to go Screx themselves. O runs around with Rezko, Ayers, and we know the list, who have financed and furthered his career at the expense of the poor AAs in his district. We are not even sure if he is legally entitled to citzenship, but no one in the electorial enviornment seems to care.

    I was told by one of the loyal dems here, that politics is dirty, and I just had to accept it.

    Gov Palin not only says you don’t have to accept it, you can change it AND SHE HAS.

    NOW THAT IS HOPE AND CHANGE YOU CAN
    BELEIVE IN.

    COUNTRY FIRST

  • kostner

    h t t p : / / http://www.nypost.com/seven/08302008/news/columnists/a_brilliant_trap_makes_dems_the_male_cha_126765.htm?page=0

    A BRILLIANT TRAP MAKES DEMS THE MALE CHAUVINISTS

    SHE’S just a beauty queen.

    She’s another Dan Quayle.

    And ironically, the biggest criticism of Sarah Palin, John McCain’s veep choice, is she has no experience. Funny, coming from the Barack Obama camp.

    Following McCain’s announcement of Palin – the first female to be put on a GOP ticket for the White House, and only the second in US history – the Obama campaign skipped the niceties and blasted her as the “former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience

    She’s also a governor of Alaska (my home state), the first woman in that office and the youngest elected in state history. She has an 80-plus percent approval rating. She has turned the state upside down with her reformist zeal and has made enemies of the Republican establishment.

    And she can talk energy policy, one of the biggest issues facing this country.

    Is she a gamble? Definitely. But so is Barack Obama, who has himself dismissed experience as a prerequisite for leadership, despite his spot atop the Democratic ticket.

    At this point, Palin is so unknown, there’s no way to make a clear judgment about her. But listening to Obama supporters take to the airwaves to shriek with indignation about her lack of experience is just a little too rich. Where were they when Obama, two years into the Senate, announced his candidacy for president?

    One Obama supporter and political operative blogged, “In picking an unknown, untested half-a-term governor from Alaska . . . John McCain is following in a long line of reckless men who have rolled the dice for a beauty queen.”

    Do we really have to do this again?

    No sooner was Hillary Rodham Clinton out of the race, and a new woman is in the cross hairs.

    On CNN, during a discussion about whether it was appropriate for Palin to accept this job when she has a baby, Dana Bash pointed out it’s unlikely anyone would ask this of a male candidate.

    I can’t help wondering if this is a trap. The McCain camp watched and learned as Obama supporters offended Hillary supporters by their treatment of her. The McCainiacs had to know that this group is incapable of behaving, that Palin would bring out their worst instincts.

    One top Republican said to me: “Just wait until she is debating Joe Biden and he starts attacking or condescending to her. Hillary voters are going to say, ‘Oh yeah, I remember this.’ ”

    The McCain camp has already made clear it stands at the ready to scoop up these voters. Yesterday, Palin proudly acknowledged her historic selection, the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton and the woman who paved the way for her, Geraldine Ferraro.

    Ferraro told me she’s excited for another woman to be on a presidential ticket. She sees Palin as a risky choice – but also dismissed the idea that she’s unqualified.

    And she rejected the idea that all the so-called “Hillary voters” would be repelled by Palin’s staunch anti-abortion views. These voters know the Senate will have a veto-proof Democratic majority, so that lessens the potency of that issue.

    Howard Wolfson, Hillary’s top strategist, said “it won’t help with most Hillary voters, but it could help with some.”

    “Some” of 18 million people is what the McCain camp is after.

    The other potential trap is luring the Obama campaign onto the “experience” field. The early conventional wisdom says McCain’s pick was boneheaded because it takes the experience issue off the table. But it seems that it has done the opposite: The importance of experience is the topic of the day.

    The more Democrats complain about this, the more Republicans can turn it on them and say, “If you are so concerned about the amount of experience of the vice president, what about the top of your ticket?”

    Obama’s argument thus far has been that experience isn’t what counts; it’s judgment. By attacking the Republican woman relentlessly on this issue, Democrats are undermining their own man.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I HOPE in a debate, someone hits her with the “you’re not Hillary” line.

    And I hope she retorts: “If you wanted Hillary, you should have nominated her.”

  • chaz356

    Palin is a home run
    The lady drives her own car to work, sold the governors jet on ebay
    This is truly McCain taking the white back to the people hands
    One thing talked about is how energized the dems are now the repubs are also energized.
    And the timing is just brilliant
    There is so much Obama fatigue out there
    I am excited about the this ticket

  • freckles

    It seems that Sarah’s husband and son are Independents. In spite of my preconceived views and natural reluctance, I am beginning to adore the Palin family.

  • moononpluto

    ROFLMAO

    Bambi got no bounce from the convention, hilarious, so all that Obamapalooza was for nothing. His ceiling really is low.

  • NewMexicoFan

    HillaryforTexas

    Brillant.

  • skmf12

    its not hillary….

    so, WHY AM I SO EXCITED?

    strange how it feels good on so many levels.
    a woman, a mother, a wife, as vice president of the
    united states… hhmmm

    she is a woman, yet she is loved and respected
    in her state, for being tough, smart, and no
    nonsense…

    she isnt corrupt…

    she’s not elite latte drinker…

    she’s a gun totting, white working class, bitter
    american…

    and she’s a WOMAN.
    and a republican, was willing to go, where the democrats refused to go….

    YEP! I FEEL REAL GOOD!

  • NewMexicoFan

    Moononpluto

    So how much did that convention cost with the add on of the football field? and he got 0? His financial performance sucks (last month 53M in 53M out and polls went down).

    Fiancial backers, how are things looking for you? Are you smarter than the SDs?

    As I recall, he has to get $100M a month, and so far he has fallen short the first two months.

  • skmf12

    also as some have said,
    THANK YOU HILLARY, you have done the heavy
    lifting…

    you may just see something that will warm your
    heart afterall.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Oh by the way, inspite of plenty of warning on this website, the Dems are definitely down at the bottom of the Cliff now, looking up, and HELLO standing on the edge of the cliff is this Good Looking Women, who is not going to pull you out.

    God, I am enjoying this way too much.

  • freckles

    The Obama lies and misleading ads are making me crazed.

    “McC voted with Bush 90% of the time.”

    What was the 10%? Torture, tax cuts, spending or National Tree Day? 10% is a lot and is close to a lot of Dems.

    “Sara Palin is unqualified” and/or “It takes the experience thing off the table.” Because her town was small and Alaska has a low population, it doesn’t count and is less than Chicago. Yes, but O didn’t run Chicago NOR DID HE CLEAN IT UP! You run anything and manage to reform an entrenched good-ol-boy corrupt system, battle the oil companies and begin a natural gas pipeline and you’re qualified to do almost anything. Also she would have a Sec of State, Defense, and Natl Sec. chief chosen by McC who knows a bit about such things. I’ll bet none of them will be Brownie or Rumsfeld or Obama’s guys.

    If Palin’s experience is troubling to some, how do they feel about the far less experienced and FAR LESS SUCCESSFUL Obama?

    The double standard here is revolting!

  • freckles

    I don’t mean the double standard HERE…I meant in this country…by the news media and the Dems.

  • skmf12

    KUDOS TO SARAH, FOR WEARING HIM ON HER ARM…

    YUM…
    he’s fine….

    ******************************************
    Alaska’s First Husband Todd Palin
    EmailWritten by Alicia on Aug-29-08 10:14am
    There are five first husbands in the US. Todd Palin, husband of Alaska Governor and Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, is undoubtedly the coolest. The Alaska native, whose mother is a quarter Yu’pik Eskimo, is the current co-champion of the Iron Dog Snowmobiling Competition, a 2000 mile trek across the Alaskan wilderness (he’s won four times).

    Since his wife’s inauguration as Alaska Governor, Todd Palin has been a devoted house husband and father of five, cooking meals and making sure younger children Bristol, Willow, and Piper make it to extracurricular activities. Oldest son Track, 18, is in the US Army and is set for deployment to Iraq in September 2008. Son Trig was born in April 2008 with down syndrome.

    Sarah and Todd are high school sweethearts: they met at a high school basketball game in 1982 and eloped six years later. Todd explained to the Anchorage Daily News that he and Sarah “had a bad fishing year that year, so [they] didn’t have any money…[they] decided to spend 35 bucks and go down to the courthouse.”

    Todd, a former production operator in a British Petroleum-run facility, is a staunch supporter of Alaska drilling. He, like his wife, believes that Alaska’s economy would greatly benefit from the stable oil and petroleum jobs that offshore drilling would create. Todd’s blue-collar background in manual labor–along with the Palins’ love of ice-fishing and commercial hunting–has made Sarah Palin a relateable favorite among Alaska voters. It remains to be seen if the rest of the country will concur: Palin, who has a lifetime membership in the NRA, may be a bit too hard-line conservative for many undecided voters.

  • NewMexicoFan

    There is another aspect here, that we have not talked about. Gov Palin owes nothing to no one. She also has a reputation of honesty, and did not aspire to do this.

    So her acceptance of this positon means she is endorsing McCain, and finds him trust worthy, and honest.

    To be truthful with you, her endorsement, based on who she is, means more than most.

  • skmf12

    this is an old vid, but nice…
    admin,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjqZ_vvLNc

  • skmf12

    admin can you post?
    pretty pleeeease…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vaH2BjVeA

  • wbboei

    Q: What does 100 million dollars spent on convention get you?

    A: The dead cat bounce

    Q: So let me get this straight Axelrod. You spent 100 million dollars for a dead cat bounce.

    A: Well, we didnt expect a bounce. We wanted to unite the party.

    Q: Is that why you had bots trying to bribe Clinto delegates? Bots running down the hall poundign on doors and screaming and Hillary delegates cryiing and phony floor votes. Is that your idea of uniting the party???????

    A: I am sorry. I have to take another call. Hello George (Soros) . . . . . . Yes George. Of course George. As you say George.

  • birdgal

    skmf: GREAT video clips.

    The dems need to be toast this year. Their behavior has been vile, abusive, and undemocratic, that the party needs to re-invent itself. The Chicago machine does not make a very good democratic party.

  • meiyingsu

    Palin boosts McCain’s online haul

    All that attention combined with the good vibrations from the base delivered McCain a financial shot in the arm yesterday.

    His online haul from the Palin pick: $4.49 million, per a campaign aide.

  • wbboei

    I HOPE in a debate, someone hits her with the “you’re not Hillary” line.

    And I hope she retorts: “If you wanted Hillary, you should have nominated her.”
    ——————————————–
    Game set match/

  • wbboei

    its not hillary….

    so, WHY AM I SO EXCITED?

    strange how it feels good on so many levels.
    a woman, a mother, a wife, as vice president of the
    united states… hhmmm

    she is a woman, yet she is loved and respected
    in her state, for being tough, smart, and no
    nonsense…

    she isnt corrupt…

    she’s not elite latte drinker…

    she’s a gun totting, white working class, bitter
    american
    ——————————————–

    Well said. These negatives are overwhelmingly postive.

  • carbynew

    Palin’s nomination may end Democrats’ hopes of winning Alaska for Obama, observers say

    newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/30/palins-nomination-may-end-democrats-hopes-winning-/

    Good article but this paragraph caught my attention:

    Local Democrats suggested their party would continue its effort to campaign for Obama in Alaska despite Friday’s news.

    That effort is quite visible in Fairbanks. Blue and white Obama signs cover the western wall of the city’s Democratic headquarters, which takes up the second floor of a College Road office building, and organizers have scheduled a number of campaign events in the coming days.

    Obama has set up five offices across Alaska. Giertz declined to say how much money the party has spent in the state, citing internal campaign policy. He said the Obama campaign has “dozens” of paid staffers statewide.

    Moore said it’s now “inconceivable” to think Obama could capture the state and suggested any resulting decline in his campaign investment here would indirectly hurt Democratic candidates for House and Senate.

    “(He should) save his money and go fight somewhere else,” Moore said.

    Marc Hellenthal, another pollster from Anchorage, went so far as to say Alaska’s addition to a national Republican ticket could indirectly cost Begich his chance to unseat Stevens.

    “If Obama does not contest Alaska, it gives a definite leg up to (Republicans in) the congressional and Senate seat races,” he said.

  • wbboei

    wbboei
    Jones street is in the West Village. I lived on Great Jones ST in the 90’s. great jones ran from the bowery to west lafayette. considered east village then. i think realators now call it NOHO(north of housten) Cbgb’s was right around the corner, I am sure my 1100 dollar basement apartment goes for at least 5x that now.Remember the origanal Tower records well grat jones was a block from there
    ——————————————-
    Thanks Henry. No Ho. Houston pronounced Howsten. When the realtors take over no man is safe. We have got a So Do now in our town. South of the dome. Anyway thanks for the geography lesson. I always liked Ed Koch and I know he had a place in the village as well as Gracey Mansion. He is a big Hillary supporter and someone who is not afraid to tell it how it is.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Anyone think it’s worthwhile for McCain to open up the following line of attack? It’s an argument that’s been pushed by Hillary supporters in the past but I think McCain should pick it up:

    “Obama can’t be trusted and is dishonest, because of the way he’s stolen previous elections — he got his opponents off the ballot in Chicago so that he ran uncontested, and he lost the popular vote to Hillary and disenfrachised FL and MI, and won the primary on unjust technicalities”

  • djia

    I Brought this over here from the confluence
    River Daughters blog post today is awesome making very clear some good points and arguments….. she totally speaks for me! and i am sure for many here too. This should be spread far and wide IMHO.

    Saturday: Truth and Consequences
    Posted on August 30, 2008 by riverdaughter

    The Obamaphiles continue their charm offensive to woo and cajol us to vote for Obama. How sweetly they shower us with attention and affection. Soon, they will have us eating out of their hands, our tiny little bird brains filled with brilliant Barackian light and music.

    F$&* that $*%^!

    Can we please get a better brand of troll here? The ones we have been assigned are insulting our intelligence. Let’s knock these myths down one at a time:

    McCain has skin cancer. He could *die* in office. DIE, I say! Then, Sarah Palin would be President. OMG! She’s only been a governor for 2 years! Woe is me! What shall become of us??? Truth: Tim Kaine has been governor of VA for exactly as long as Palin. He was on Obama’s short list for VP. So, if Kaine was experienced for Obama, Palin is experienced enough for McCain. Plus, the Republicans have maintained a more natural order in their ticket. John McCain is “mentoring” Palin. It looks logical and good spirited. As to the health issue, skin cancer, like melanoma which McCain has had, is curable if caught early. People with John’s skin type, which happens to be mine also, have to be extremely vigilant about noticing changes in the skin but it *is* possible for us to lead healthy, productive lives with sun protection and immediate treatment of lesions. He’s more likely to die of heart disease.
    But she’s so inexperienced. How would she handle the presidency if she had to step in? Truth: Barack Obama has been running for president for as long as Sarah Palin has been running Alaska. In fact, she is likely to step into the top spot with more ease than Obama because her experience as an executive is more relevant than his as a legislator.
    She’s a former beauty queen. Truth: Former beauty queens get scholarships to college. She got one. She seems to be very smart. Very tenacious. We liked those qualities in Hillary. Plus, she’s easy on the eyes. So, she shows that women can be attractive and smart and powerful. And the people screaming “former beauty queen” are showing their bigotry towards women. I’m so glad we’re getting this all out in the open this year, aren’t you? Otherwise, we would have spent the next 40 years co-existing with you troglodytes and sleeping with you and stuff, never knowing what you were really thinking. Now, we can feel confident that if you don’t measure up in bed, it’s not our problem.
    She’s anti-choice. Truth: We know what she is but if Obamaphiles insist on calling us post-menopausal, dried up pussies, you shouldn’t be surprised if we are suddenly unsympathetic towards young female Obamaphiles who find themselves unintentionally pregnant. Some of us fought those battles in the 60’s. Some of us took advantage of the battles won in the 70’s and 80’s. Some of us continue to fight in the 90’s and 00’s. But we’re not your parents who are responsible for getting you out of every scrape. YOU are responsible for your own fate. If you don’t like the anti-choice leanings of your next president and vice president, work your ass off for downticket Dems so Republicans can’t ram through any more anti-choice legislation. You’re old enough. Do it yourself. Besides, you female Obamaphiles had a choice in Hillary Clinton who was committed to prtecting your reproductive freedom. Instead, you picked a man who is actively courting evangelical voters and watering down the pro-choice section of the Democratic platform. And you have the nerve to call US dumb?
    She’s no Hillary Clinton. Truth: And neither is Barack Obama. If the Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton to save Obama’s bacon, really the DNC’s bacon, they should have put her in the top spot and made Obama VP. That would have been an unbeatable ticket. Palin seems to have a lot of qualities that Hillary supporters admire. No, she’s no Hillary Clinton but we didn’t get Hillary despite all of our efforts and the warnings we gave. It seems like the Democrats are completely blindsided by Sarah Palin. Heck, we knew she was coming. She or Christie Todd Whitman were going to kill the Democratic ticket. But did th DNC listen? Nooooo. Tough noogies.
    McCain is only pandering to you wimmin. Truth: Yup. And??? You think we’re too stupid to realize this? Of course he’s pandering to us. He’s a f%*(ing politician. That’s what successful politicians do. They reach out to voting blocs and offer them something. I know that the Democratic party has abandoned this approach this year because they are above all of that and we’re just supposed to fall in line and hand over our votes like good little girls. Obama is transcendent and Hillary was just too down to earth and common. That’s why she needed to be purged. Or maybe the Democratic party really is just that Good Old Boys club and they only used women’s rights as a come on. We’re not too stupid to see that.
    You’re all going to vote for McCain because he picked Palin and it’s all identity politics. Truth: Not necessarily. Some of us will never be able to cross that ideological divide. But Palin was the deciding factor for a good many people here. McCain did something that the DNC refused to do- honor women voters. As Chicago Dyke said:

    More than anything else, she is a clear warning: someone in the McCain campaing has a brain. Bigger than Rove’s, bigger than McCain’s. Fear that, if you long for Democratic victory this fall.

    More than anything else, we want to punish the DNC for turning its back on voters who went to the primary polls in good faith to vote for Hillary Clinton, expecting that our votes would be recognized. We voted for her in overwhelming numbers in some major D and swing states and our votes were taken from us in the interest of “unity”. Our delegates were harrassed and intimidated, our persons and characters insulted and derided, our candidate of choice, a brilliant, energetic, dedicated public servant, reduced to a figurehead of “your time has come and gone”. We were told in no uncertain terms that OUR chance to lead the country had slipped through our fingers in favor of a bunch of amateurish, idealistic, young thugs. I gotta tell you in advance of the November purge that that attitude went over like a lead balloon. We will not let you get away with it. Some of us will stay home. Some of us will vote N.O.T. (nothing on top). Some of us will write in or vote third party. And, now, because of Sarah Palin, some of us feel we have some place to go.

    The Democrats have no one but themselves to blame. Oh, absolutely true.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

  • curiosityhasme

    Best retort from Palin for any Dem who states to her that she’s no Hillary…is for her to say (for instance to Biden or any other surrogate) “With all due respect, sir (madam)..you are no Hillary Clinton either.”

    Back atcha bud.

  • carbynew

    I was reading the The Sun.com in the U.K. and they said McCain vp pick Sarah Palin took over their news chanels all day long…Obama was locked out of the British TV all day Friday.

  • marie3548

    Stephanie Tubss Jones on cspan

  • marie3548

    ooops sry
    her memorial on CSPAN

  • carbynew

    I have to give it to McCain he’s pretty much carrying the Republican party on his one good arm because you know Bush/Cheney hurt their brand badly.

  • wbboei

    Anyone think it’s worthwhile for McCain to open up the following line of attack? It’s an argument that’s been pushed by Hillary supporters in the past but I think McCain should pick it up:

    “Obama can’t be trusted and is dishonest, because of the way he’s stolen previous elections — he got his opponents off the ballot in Chicago so that he ran uncontested, and he lost the popular vote to Hillary and disenfrachised FL and MI, and won the primary on unjust technicalities
    ——————————————-
    Agreed. But is is 527 material/

  • Berkeley Vox

    Palin is a perfect strategic choice for McCain. She’s a populist, anti-lobbyist/, anti-special interest, blue collar woman who wants to fight to reform government. She will appeal to the same block of swing voters that Hillary appealed to.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Dems how does it feel being down at the bottom of the cliff. I don’t know what next week will bring, but I do know it is tough climbing up from a cliff, especially since women are a higher percentage of your party than men.

    But then they will fold in. Don’t they always do what you tell them to.

    You accomplished your goal, you screwed a women who was one of our best assets to come along. You breathed a sigh of relieve thinking you had left the sexist aspects behind you, and all those older women would foreget by election day, ONLY TO HAVE MCCAIN, THE 72 YEAR OLD, MAKE A BRILLANT MOVE AND PUT AN AMAZING WOMEN ON THE REP SIDE.

    First thing out of the media box, oh she would need to say home to take care of the handicapped child would she not? Then a women journalists stands up and says, you would not ask that question of a man.

    I have really changed my mind on who the most sexists party is. I have done a 180. His platform might give lip service to women’s issues at this point (It had to as that is what HRC fought with her soul for), but I think platform and especially issued forced down your throat, are not implimented gurantees. WJC said, it is what you can get through that counts, not what you say you will do.

    I have more confidenct in McCain doing something about my women’s issues than I have in O doing anything. I think he would spend his whole time planning his reelection, and next coronation.

  • wbboei

    Palin is a perfect strategic choice for McCain. She’s a populist, anti-lobbyist/, anti-special interest, blue collar woman who wants to fight to reform government. She will appeal to the same block of swing voters that Hillary appealed to.
    ——————————————–
    Yes.

    And to bambi, dear precious bambi, the best hopes for good acid round trip into the Age of Acquarius, try this one on for size: action talks, bullshit walks, what did you do to clean up the most corrupt political machine in the country (Chicago but the DNC is a close second) and heres looking at you kid.

  • curiosityhasme

    Down here in upper coastal Texas, we will have mandatory evacuation ordered on Sun. am. All special needs airlifted, taken out on buses this am. All along upper TS/LA/MS coast evacuations taking place.

    I will be staying since part of gov’t. essential medical personnel, but due to the nature of Katrina (and Rita here one month later) the GOP needs to announce TODAY that they will postpone the convention. Disastrous from political viewpoint if they don’t postpone WELL before landfall as a matter of PR standpoint. To do anything less reeks of disconnection from citizens.

    First time in the history of SE TX Golden Traingle that they will not be able to participate in the National Labor Day Telethon, also costing this area untold $$$$$. Cancelled fund-raising all along gulf coast region. Think the Jerry Lewis Labor Day MD Drive/Telethon should make some sort of extended donation situation since this is catastrophic to their goals as well. Entire Oil Production here is at risk just like with Rita.

    You may remember Geraldo Rivera showcasing the little known or mentioned SE TX Golden Triangle area’s oil production and refinerie capacity, and close proximity to the larger Houston/Baytown refineries. Beaumont/Port Arthur currently in the process major expansion in DOUBLING the refining capacity locally, placing Motiva, Valero, others here to be the largest production facility in the United States.

    How do you think we feel here about drilling? Uh, yeah. Speaking of Drill Here, Drill Now. This makes McCain/Palin much more relevant now.

    This looming storm is HUGE folks, to all of our pocketbooks, speaking of gasoline prices.

    Between Katrina aftermath and the lousy GOP reaction (and Rita) of 2005, the current political climate, and the looming devastation to this area in the next seventy-two hours, the GOP MUST POSTPONE THEIR CONVENTION AND ANNOUNCE THIS ASAP.

    PLEASE SPREAD THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW FAR AND WIDE – GOP MUST POSTPONE CONVENTION AND ANNOUNCE THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

  • freckles

    wbb — you can get into trouble taping Axelrod :)

    Btw, a year ago did the TV people start every program with, “Is Obama qualified to be President”? And did they conclude he wasn’t? Did I miss all that?

    Because they are doing it every hour with Dems attacking 5-1 to Republicans.

  • curiosityhasme

    Thanks for the information about Stephanie Tubbs-Jones Memorial on C-Span. God rest her wonderful soul. We love and miss you Stephanie.

  • nikki22

    You know guys I’m absolutely stunned by the hypocrisy of people like Jeralyn at TL and Taylor Marsh. I expected so much more from them. Especially TM- she railed against BO’s inexperience during the primaries. Now she has the nerve to compare Gov Palin to Quayle? She even had the audacity to say Obama’s degree in international relations gave him more foreign policy experience than the governor. WTF?! It is very revealing just how quickly they sold out. And what’s with the chest pumping coming from the Bots about how Biden will kick Sarah’s ass in the debates? Biden has never kicked anyones a**. He’s a gassbag. And they’re only lowering the expectations for Palin. All she has to do is show up and appear knowledgeable and comfortable with the foreign affairs & she wins!

  • NewMexicoFan

    curiosityhasme

    I think I was among the firt to bring up Gustav. I think I read somewhere, maybe on this blog, that McCain, is watching the hurricane, and has already said they might to go an abbreviated schedule.

    THEY NEED TO MAKE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT NOW.

    Having lived in Hurricane territory in the past, and watched Katrina unfold, we need to absolutely handle this right.

  • freckles

    curiosity — they can only postpone if they can postpone for almost a week. The problem is that the hurricane might hit Monday. Tues, or Wed. When can they hold the convention?

  • carbynew

    Residents in Palin’s hometown thrilled by nomination

    newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/30/residents-palins-hometown-thrilled-nomination/

  • freckles

    The notion that God is punishing the Repulicans or showing his candidate preference by sending hurricane Gustav has to be written by a pupil at the Pat Robertson School of Weather Divining.

    Funny how God’s chosen candidates so seldom win.
    Which is why we have so much bad weather.

  • carbynew

    McCain’s VP pick attended Hawaii Pacific College
    By Associated Press

    HONOLULU (AP) _ Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain’s pick for a running mate briefly attended college in Hawaii.

    Alaska Governor Sarah Palin enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College — now known as Hawaii Pacific University — as a freshman in the Business Administration program in 1982.

    But she only stayed one semester.

    Palin transferred to North Idaho College for the 1983-’84 school year and eventually graduated from the University of Idaho in 1987.

    The Alaska governor was born in the small northern Idaho city of Sandpoint in 1964.

    http://www.kpua.net/news.php?id=15711

  • pm317

    Republicans can turn Obama’s famous line (John McCains cares but doesn’t get it) on its head : We know Obma cares (about those gun clinging, religion hugging people, but does he get them?). All this talk about ridiculing Palin’s education credential is again the same elitist rhetoric. For all their education they are not very smart. They are reinforcing the same stereotype of him not getting those “hicks.” The media and his supporters (including party people) for all their pro-Obama rhetoric, they are not helping him (much to my glee). As I wrote a comment on Anglachel, it is time to clean our house of these rats (by soundly rejecting Obama).

    Also, I am tired of hearing about abortion rights and Roe V Wade from Obama minions. Here was a woman who has devoted her career to women’s rights and they humiliate and push her out and now they have the audacity to come back and threaten us with those? The two families (McCain and Palin) may be pro-life but they also have put their compassion and money where their mouths are — McCain has adopted a Bangladesh Orphan and Palin carried her Downs Syndrome baby to term (she did not think it was a punishment remember Obama’s words on unwanted pregnancy). That may just give me pause to think that they may do the right thing after all (Not to mention all hell will break lose if R v W is messed with).

  • skmf12

    washington post:

    Ha! Say the Online Hillary Supporters
    By Krissah Williams Thompson
    The HillBloggers — stalwart online supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton — are fired up this morning by the announcement that Sen. John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

    The common refrain: “Obama will regret not choosing Hillary now!”

    Taylor Marsh, a Las Vegas blogger who developed a large following of Clintonites during the primary, wrote this morning that: “This is a move to peel off disaffected HRC voters. I guess McCain thinks they’re stupid and willing to vote for any woman. Rabidly pro life, an NRA member, she’s not exactly a champion of women’s civil rights. We’ll have to see where she stands on health care and equal pay. But one thing this does is keep Hillary Clinton in the forefront throughout the general election. We’ll be hearing the phrase ‘Hillary Clinton voters’ until November.”

    A post on Tennessee Guerrilla Women, a blog run by Hillary supporters in the state, said the Palin pick will cause large numbers of women to “once again tune into politics. And karma will once again prove to be a total [pain] for Barack Obama and the party elders of the undemocratic Democratic Party!

    “Barack Obama should have begged Hillary Rodham Clinton to be on his Democratic ticket. John McCain may well be about to bring that chilling fact home to Barack Obama.”

    On the group blog Feministe, Jill Filipovic, a 20-something New Yorker, worried that the Palin pick would “woo white suburban politically moderate female voters” from the Dems.

    Palin “has a solid resume. She’s not an old white dude, which makes McCain look less stodgy. Biden will have a harder time debating against her without coming across as a bully (especially since he’s something of a loose cannon prone to idiotic slips of the tongue, despite being an excellent debater). She could potentially woo white suburban politically moderate female voters. She’s likable and has a very all-American story. She has a son in the military. The media is already swooning over her.

    “All that said: She doesn’t have much foreign policy (or any other governing) experience, which puts a dent in McCain’s argument that experience is everything. But… yeah, this was a smart choice on McCain’s part. Damn.”

    No Quarter USA, an online hub for anti-Obama Hillary supporters, had this comment from Danny in Alaska, a disaffected Hillary Democrat who had pledged not to vote for Obama, on a news post. He called Palin an independent and said a “vote for MCCAIN IS NO LONGER A PROTEST VOTE! I want bumper stickers.”

  • carbynew

    From Huff n Puff:

    Palin Adds Right-Wing Cruelty To GOP Ticket
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/palin-adds-right-wing-cru_b_122631.html

    This is one link that is so out there you half to see for yourself and what men really think about women to write this crap.

    “Cynical Campaign Insults Memory of Suffragettes

    But wait a minute: McCain said that when he thinks about the suffragettes, he is proud of the fact that Gov. Palin is a devoted wife and mother.”
    *****************************************************
    The Democrats are clueless about women voters, and the more they continue down this road the worst it will be for them.

  • carbynew

    half = have

  • Paula

    Hillary gave a wonderful eulogy at STJ’s funeral. I hope you all saw it.

  • pm317

    Well said. from NQ for more, American Girl in Italy:

    This solidifies my decision to vote McCain.

    And it is not just because there is a woman on his ticket. It is because John McCain selected a woman. He put his presidency on the line, he put his faith in a woman. He considers a woman a worthy running mate. And he showed respect for those 18 million Hillary supporters, and he showed that he listened to the women in America, and that he values what we have to say.
    Unlike Obama.

  • pm317

    Can somebody link the two videos to remind everybody what Obama’s said:

    1. Obama saying he will get all Hillary supporters but she won’t
    2. MO saying she has to think about voting for Hillary if she were the nominee

    I don’t have links bookmarked and searching for them is like looking for a need in a haystack.

  • turndownobama-com

    Someone quoted from DREAMS:
    “Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family moved to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill,” he writes. “But the classroom couldn’t contain his ambitions, his restlessness, and so the family moved again.”
    ======

    And Obama is keeping up the tradition!

  • skmf12

    ******************************************

    “Pay attention to Ed Kilgore’s points about why this candidate will be very strong with Republican loyalists and why she will appeal to Independents and wavering Democrats:

    To be sure, I’m a poor judge of the visual side of campaign events. But what I saw in Dayton was (1) the “maverick” GOP presidential candidate introducing his “maverick” running mate, although Palin, even more than McCain, is actually a conservative ideologue whose selection thrilled both cultural and economic factions of the Right; (2) a direct appeal by Palin to HRC supporters to consummate Hillary’s campaign by shattering the splintered “glass ceiling;” (3) a compelling personal story of a woman who (a) has one son with Down’s Syndrome, (b) another who is being deployed to Iraq on September 11; (c) is married to a Native American (at least technically) union worker and athlete; and (d) has bravely defied her party and oil companies in Alaska.

    I would add that I have been reading about Sarah Palin for a fairly long time so was not surprised to hear she had been chosen, that she is a very tenacious political fighter, and that she is a good contrast to McCain without taking away.

    This is a dangerous political choice for Democrats, in great part because of moronic responses by PB 1.0 that belittle and underestimate her.

    I mean, Dubya was too conservative, inexperienced and on the wrong side of issues to win in 2000, and how did that work out?

    Anglachel
    Labels: Election 2008, Political strategy

    posted by Anglachel

  • Idunn

    Paula, I haven’t had a chance to see much of anything today.

    You wouldn’t happen to have a link to vid of HRC at STJ’s funeral, would you?

  • confloyd

    Obama=BUSH
    Obama instead of fighting corruption in Illinois, joined in on it.

    Bush instead of fighting corruption incorporated it in his administration

    Palin fought her party against its corruption.

    Easy choice this Nov. McCain/Palin08′

  • rgb44hrc

    # wbboei Says:
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm


    Palin isnt corrupt…
    she’s not elite latte drinker…
    she’s a gun totting, white working class, bitter
    american
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    She clings to her bible as well.

  • mp

    First I was upset aboput this STJ memorial turning into an Obamafest…
    But hehe!

    The audience is not new one where he needs to convince new voters. Mostly AAs!!!

    Please make it long…less time for BO/Biden to meet others today out in the streets…

  • rgb44hrc

    wbboei Says:
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Q: What does 100 million dollars spent on convention get you?

    A: The dead cat bounce

    Q: So let me get this straight Axelrod. You spent 100 million dollars for a dead cat bounce.
    &&&&&&&

    Who financed the 100 mil for the Convention? Obviously, the DNC should have the responsbility to provide a “normal” convention, and that if Obama wanted to fly super-first class, he’d be responsible for the upgrade. I also recall hearing that some really rich dude volunteered to be sugar daddy for the convention, but I forget who, and I don’t recall how much of the bill he was going to help with.

    “dead cat bounce”. good one.

  • jonnyB

    McCain was going to win anyway.

    Palin puts all the Western states out of Obama’s reach.
    The east coast – NC, SC, VA – they are out of Obama’s reach now.
    The conservatives will now come out and vote.

    My friend who travels widely for a living, thinks McCain will take MI and PA.

    How many dissed delegates in MI will work for Obama?
    How many dissed delegates in FL will work for Obama?
    few – if any

    The DNC played their fiddle while Rome burned.
    In 2012, with 4 years of experience,
    Palin will even have an experience argument.

    Republicans know how to win.
    unfortunately

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Im just shocked and soaked with Palin.

    We still don’t hear much about Obama and his so-called proclaimation of a acceptance speech… anymone remember it? It’s so yesterday!

    Don’t forget we have a lot of work ahead of us!

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    was Obama at the funeral for STJ? Remember he said it was on the day that he announced Biden as his VP

  • moononpluto

    Heres what going on in Obamaland, a direct quote.

    “She’s bloody good and she’s bloody good looking,” said one Democratic Party official, after watching Mrs Palin’s coming out performance alongside John McCain. “We had problems before this and they just got worse.”

    Panic has set in

    At the team’s first campaign appearance after the convention, in Beaver, Pennsylvania he praised Michelle Obama before even her husband and launched into a lingering clinch. What chance has Mrs Palin?

    The Democrat official told me: “She’s a former beauty queen. It’s an accident waiting to happen. I just hope Biden doesn’t have his tongue hanging out during the debate.”

  • skmf12

    // posted by Howling Latina @ 1:27 PM 0 comments
    Reaction to McCain’s V-P Pick Around the Media
    “With VP Pick, McCain Reclaims Maverick Image,” writes Washington Post. “An All-Out Battle for Women’s Votes Begins,” opines Juliet Eilperin and Anne Kornblut also with Washington Post.

    “Obama & Co. must take high road on Palin,” warns Chicago Sun-Times. A quickie look at Obamanation disabuses the notion and finds no takers but lots of small-town slamming and sexist posts.

    One astute commenter from Chicago writes in the Sun-Times that “DEMOCRATES GOT THIS SO WRONG THIS ELECTION YEAR! Obama screwed up, just as expected and predicted…”

    Boston Globe headlines, “Gov. Sarah Palin: A Surprise Breath of Fresh Air.

    “Schwarzenegger likes the Palin pick,” Los Angeles Times reports. “It would be ‘terrific’ to have a female helping run things, he says.”

    McCain’s Pick Also a Maverick,” pronounces The Houston Chronicle. “She is breathtakingly unlike any other vice presidential pick in American history…and rose to buck the Alaskan GOP hierarchy while charming voters.”

    Across the oceans: “Choice of Palin appeals to Clinton supporters,” observes Radio Netherlands Worldwide.

    “McCain makes history with choice of running mate,” writes Steve Quinn and Calvin Woodward of Associated Press and published in newspapers throughout the world like Herald Zeitung of Germany and The Guardian of United Kingdom.

    Meanwhile Obama has been reduced to whining and calling Palin names. Now contrast this to Hillary’s gracious statement yesterday congratulating Palin — not slamming her.

    “We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain,” Clinton…said in the statement. “While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”
    It looks like the law of karma is continuing to take a well-deserved toll on Obamanation with a few choice words from Geraldine Ferraro:

    “There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated by the media, by how she was treated by the Obama campaign, by how she was treated by the Democratic National Committee — [Democratic party chairman] Howard Dean not speaking up when sexism raised its ugly head in the media. They’ll be looking to see what happens now.
    And former Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson hits the nail on the head with a blog post that notes how McCain’s choice is “going to have a lot of women voters wondering why Senator Obama didn’t tap Senator Clinton as his running mate.”

    Why did you forsake 18 million voters, Obama?? Get ready to do a little groveling between now and November; remember, you did pray for humility on the Western Wall.

    posted by Howling Latina

  • moononpluto

    I love this new quote today.

    “Alaska is littered with the bodies of those who tried to bully Sarah Palin and failed.”

    toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080830/COLUMNIST14/808300326/-1/COLUMNIST

    McCains Masterstroke

    Kimberley Strassel of the Wall Street Journal has said that Mr. McCain should run – a la Harry Truman – against a corrupt, do-nothing Congress this fall. If he chooses to do so, Ms. Palin is the ideal partner. She took on a corrupt GOP establishment in Alaska and pushed a landmark ethics reform bill through the state legislature. She’s as much a maverick as Mr. McCain, though one who elates, rather than irritates, conservatives.

    “If McCain has in fact chosen Governor Palin, then count me in with both feet,” said radio talk show host Mark Levin, a frequent and often savage critic of Mr. McCain. “Palin is by all accounts a principled conservative and government reformer who can contribute mightily to the decision-making that occurs in the White House.”

  • NewMexicoFan

    2 P.M. Gustave Update

    Sustained winds of 145, so it is now mid cat 4, ready to hit western area of Cuba.

    It will weaken over Cuba, how much we have to wait, but there is an area of very warm water after Cuba, and it will re-strengthen, but the questions are HOW MUCH, and will it shift any. Remember Katrina shifted East of NO.

  • Idunn

    Last night I posted on a board set up for women…where we usually discuss “womens issues”. I mentioned the blatant misogyny I’d seen against Palin, and how angry it made me. I suggested we talk about standing up to this kind of thing as a group. To my complete dismay, the Obama supporters (women Obama supporters!) came back with stuff like this: “Well, it does concern me how she’ll take care of a down syndrome baby and run the country too.” and “I think the beauty queen jokes are pretty funny, if you ask me.” and “Did it ever occur to you that maybe she IS sucking McCains dick, and that’s why he picked her?”

    I was absolutely shocked. But I held my composer and simple said, “I’m NOT talking about whether you would or wouldn’t vote for Palin, people. This isn’t about Obama or any other candidate, this is about women taking a stand against misogyny, wherever it occurs.” What response did I get? “Well, sorry. If stuff like that helps to put Obama in office, I’m all for it. I HAVE to be, because my children have no future otherwise.”

    WTF?! I mean seriously…WTF?!

  • Idunn

    LMAO….composer = composure

    (holding my composer…heh heh heh)

  • NewMexicoFan

    Idunn

    I saw the same thing with the Women in the Dem party inner circle here. Some were state or other elected official employees and they were getting a bonus for their support, some were very well educated women, in education no less, and would not walk across the street for other women.

    I then found it funny that they would bring up Roe vs Wade. If they really cared about women, then they would stand up as a group for them.

    There went my loyalty to the Dem Party.

  • skmf12

    okay dude, i al