Funeral In Denver

[Waiting for McCain announcement of Vice Presidential choice. We’ll update as soon as the potentially shocking and historic news is 100% confirmed.

UPDATE: It is Sarah Palin for McCain’s VP.

Quick thoughts in one paragraph:

This is a shocking and brilliant choice by McCain. McCain/Palin announce in must-win OHIO. Stomps out the Obama funeral story. If McCain does not run for re-election the 44 year old Palin will be the Republican nominee in 2012. If the Democrats can be bought back to life after they are destroyed in NOvember and in 2010 they will have to nominate a women to run against Palin in 2012. Hillary. Yes, Hillary. Palin will help win women around the country. Palin will help with women in the Philadelphia suburbs. Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania will likely go with NRA member and hunter Palin. The Republican Party is now 100% unified and not in a fake way. The Republicans are showing they once again know how to run an election. This is a shocking announcement with not much of a buildup (most thought it would be dull Romney, Pawlenty, or generic white male) which compares brilliantly against the trumpted weeks long hype of the Obama campaign – a big buildup for a dud. Women will savage the Democratic Party and Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi for their sexism and misogyny. Palin, whose political views we do not share, is well-spoken and articulate and tough. Palin is a maverick hated by the Alaska Republican Party because she has challenged them on ethics. Hillary’s 18 million voters (many disenfranchised by the Democratic(?) Party) will determine this election and they just have by rejection of Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi. The upcoming hurricane is potentially good news for McCain/Palin and not a problem if they use it to advantage. McCain/Palin can contrast their care by either postponing the Republican convention (which helps with financing a shorter general election season and gaining additional days of Republican control of the news cycles) or they can actually demonstrate they care by going to New Orleans or whereever the hurricane hits. McCain has made a big bold amazing pick which knocks Obama’s fake campaign to the dirt – buried.]


There is really not much to say. The Party’s Over.

Having committed suicide, the unDemocratic Party chose to have a state funeral in Denver. The jut-jawed Barack Obama strutted onto a massive constructed stage which Il Duce would have loved.

Michelle Obama broke out another cocktail dress from her Chicago supply house of cocktail dresses and joined her husband to preside at the unDemocratic funeral in Denver.

Big Media was jubiliant – their tool finally had the nomination. But as we have written repeatedly, Obama will eventually concede – in NOvember.

Real Democrats mourned. President Lyndon Johnson who signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 was ignored. Ignoring LBJ was without doubt a concession to the Kennedy family.

Obama is a quick change artist who yesterday tried to change his guise into Hillary by plagarizing Hillary’s words and speeches. Fortunately for Hillary, Obama ignored tradition and did not bring, as is normal at these events, a flotilla of Democrats on stage with him. The spectacle was all Obama and for once we are thankful.

Last night’s comments section has plenty of analysis. No need to belabor the analysis here.

Last night the Democratic Party held a funeral. Today the Republican Party seizes the day.


1,068 thoughts on “Funeral In Denver

  1. Admin,

    Thank God this undemocratic is over, never to be heard of again. With the exception of the Clintons, it was the gaudiest spectical of bad taste and idol worshipping I have ever witnessed.


    I have mixed feelings about all of this. Having thought about it though, it is not disrespectful of McCain to choose a woman. What it does is bring out the disrespect the democrats showed to Hillary in spades. It really makes Obama and his thugs, including front and center M.O. look very very small and mean. It also makes them look very stupid. They have underestimated the will of the voters and of the Republicans.

    I’ll bet that Hillary and Bill are really enjoying this.

  2. I’m not crying anymore.

    Sorry to be catty, but did anyone else think that MO’s dress was inappropriate for last night’s event?

  3. I’m laughing, McCain just destroyed Obama’s change Mantra, he picked a total Washington outsider, even more change than Obama.

    I’m laughing my head off.

  4. birdgal,

    M.O. is sooooooooo not first lady material. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she is AA. It has to do with her downright cruella personality and her absolutely bad taste is fashion.

  5. I am both thrilled for women in general and laughing my ass off at the STUPID DNC!!!

    When the misogny starts (and it will) it will make me both happy and sad to see this woman’s OWN party STAND UP AND FUCKING DEFEND HER.

    This would not be possible without Hillary. God I love that woman, and her bravery. She has ALREADY done more for us than we will ever know

  6. birdgal

    Not to be catty either, but yeh.

    And you should have seen some of the comments on here last night – everything from “put your knees together girl!- to dresses that look that that used to be called ‘housedresses’. LOL

  7. Biden has to be afraid. Can Obama drop him (for someee.. reason)? He was for Biden before he was against him?

  8. The thing about Palin is she can account for EVERY DAY OF HER LIFE. So Americans who she is, who her friends are, where she has been, etc.

    The mysterious Obama, whose life goes from grade school in Hawaii to Chicago’s south side with 15 years plus COMPLETELY MISSING is a pill American’s will not swallow. Americans want to KNOW about their elected officials.

    Obama is smoke and mirrors.

    Palin, a mother of five with a son in Iraq, is a stone.

  9. PMSNBC is having a heart attack!!!

    They keep talking about INEXPERIENCE of PALIN…PUHLEASE!!!

    OBAMA anyone!!!!

    They put andrea BITCHELL to be the ATTACK DAWG and she is pissed and is trying to use the knife on PALIN and playing cliffs of Obama’s speech from last light.

  10. birdgirl…

    not in her defense but we scrutinize everthing women wear. the fact that MO is devoid of any fashion sense (or appropriate fashion sense) reinforces our history of attacking women from the outside in.

    frankly MO should have worn a would have been more suitable for the occasion.

  11. Emjay, I did read the comments last night. For someone that has a “war room” at her disposable, one would think, a fashion consultant would be warranted.

  12. When the MSM misogyny starts (and you can BET that it will), McCain need to come out immdediately and decry it!

    John McCain…you just won my vote. Congrats.

  13. Its Sarah, and I am sooo glad he picked, obviously he could not pick Hillary, but he showed us by picking Sarah, that he wants us. He wants us, the republican party wants us and we will see if they can get some of our platform on theres.
    This can’t be anything but good news. He has chosen a woman and she will be there to run next time around for the top spot. I know we all wanted it to be Hillary, but that doesn’t seen like that will happen, I think we can all honestly look at Sarah and see the stuff she is made of, then we can decide.

  14. Palin as VP: Now that is change that I can believe in. Substance. This is change for the Republican party. Hillary shattered the ceiling for this to happen.

  15. I don’t watch anything but Fox, so are the other networks starting their anti-female crap again???

    She also sounds like the kind of woman I like, she is totally outside the box.

  16. As for other channels, MSNBC has some jerk from Biden’s camp saying the only thing Palin has done is raise taxes on a small town in Alaska.

  17. The DEMS are FCUKED!! If they go down the sexism and mysoginy road that will bring up what happen to Hillary and turn off more WOMEN and drive them over to McCain/.Palin.


  18. It was reported that the State investigation in Alaska in which Palin may be involved was because the cop was beating her sister…


    don’t think that will be a great place to attack her if it’s true

  19. Who would have thought that it would be the Reps who are the party of change, and who support women’s leadership.

    I am amazed.

  20. Let me add my two cents about MO’s fashion sense (or lack of it.) It goes beyond that, IMO. It is about telling the country how hip and young they are and how non conforming they are as a couple. She has a great body that she can pull it off and also convey these other messages. She is rejecting the idea of a dowdy, traditional appearance of a politician’s wife — another finger in your eye kind of reaction but works with their latte drinking young supporters. Middle America sees it as a lack of respect and seriousness because she is rejecting their world view. They are not big on trying to have universal appeal, if you have not noticed.

  21. MSNBC will not attack her the way they savaged Hillary however. Why? Because the Republican party elevates women and defends women against mysogymism. That point needs to be driven home at every turn if Palin is the nominee.

    If this is what happens it will be hard to for them to argue she has no experience.

  22. NMF…thing is, they USED to be. Maybe THEY are going back to their roots as the DEMS show themselves to be the party of segregation as THEY used to be

  23. The Dems are looking like the biggest idiots right now. They have been taken and thrown on the ground and stomped.

  24. You are totally right, it was Hillary’s blood sweat and tears that put that fist through the glass ceiling for the Alaska governor.

    Today, I thank HRC. We wanted it to be you, but the Dems are corrupt.





    Columbia SC.Democratic Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina pulled no punches on South Carolina ETV Radio Friday when asked to assess John McCain’s selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin for vice president.

    Without missing a beat, Clyburn told Mark Quinn, host of “The Big Picture on the Radio,” “I do believe that McCain has to do something to reshuffle the cards, shake up the establishment, do something unexpected and Governor Palin.has all the kinds of things that McCain might see as a way to shake things up. I think (her selection) would be something similar to Dan Quayle.Dan Quayle proved to be sort of an embarrassment as a campaigner. Being thrust on a national stage like that could be very tough. Now Mondale tried to shake things up by going with Geraldine Ferraro.she proved to be a disaster as a running mate. And as a campaigner, she was absolutely awful. And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”


    Keep talking , your sexist pig JIM CLYBURN !

    August 29, 2008
    The Perfect Stranger
    By Charles Krauthammer
    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. But himself.

    Exactly the point that we discussed last night a bio where no one vouches for you no friends only himself and his wife.

    Just not right

  27. # pm317 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Let me add my two cents about MO’s fashion sense (or lack of it.) It goes beyond that, IMO. It is about telling the country how hip and young they are and how non conforming they are as a couple. She has a great body that she can pull it off and also convey these other messages. She is rejecting the idea of a dowdy, traditional appearance of a politician’s wife — another finger in your eye kind of reaction but works with their latte drinking young supporters. Middle America sees it as a lack of respect and seriousness because she is rejecting their world view. They are not big on trying to have universal appeal, if you have not noticed.
    I have to add a disclaimer here — I don’t care what she wears and I am all for being non-conformist if you are ready to pay the price.

  28. I fucking hope Palin stands up and LOUDLY THANKS HILLARY for making her run possible. I hope the GOP twists the knife, but good, into those fucking DNC spineless woman-haters.

    And no, I do not care if it is being done for political gain. If the Democratic Party wanted to throw women under the bus, then they DESERVE to have it thrown back in their face.

    What McCain has shown here, even if you want to argue that he really doesn’t care about equal rights, is that he RECOGNIZES that women are a force that must be heard and heeded. And that, my friends, is a start.

  29. These Obama-tankers are SO STUPID! They are all over the place “Will we (Obama) be able to go after her on tough issues?”

    What they do not understand is YES, they can, IF they keep the sexism out of it, but they cannot figure out how to attack WITHOUT calling a woman bitch, shrill, etc.

  30. birdgal,



    I just got a look at MO’s nomination night dress! (refused to tune in last night).

    Is she fashion-challenged or what? She looked like a florists half-dead hospital arrangement assembled from Saturday’s leftovers that the shop-owner was on the verge of tossing when a last-minute order came in.

  31. H4T…NOW we need to hold the feet to the fire on BOTH sides of the aisle for WOMEN’S ISSUES. Let’s start with the ERA…whoever bends first deserves consideration.

  32. It was reported that the State investigation in Alaska in which Palin may be involved was because the cop was beating her sister…

    and tasered her nephew.

  33. Clyburn is irrelevant. What else is he going to say? I don’t think Palin is a disaster, and the country is more open to a woman VP or President. The race has just become exciting. I don’t care what, they throw at Palin, it cannot compare to Rezko, Wright, Auchi, MO, birth controversy, Chicago machine, etc.

  34. This trooper also was drunk and the bartenders called the troopers on him. Of course, they didn’t arrest him because he’s a brother. So, she used her power to fire the troopers boss, who was a political appointee…who you can fire at will. Big deal, if she is guilty of using her power against this scumbag– who beat her sister, tased his stepson, was a drunk. MORE POWER TO HER!

    McCain/Palin ’08

  35. LMAO!
    I just saw video of Palin aiming an MK-37 (or whatever the number is) and peering through the site hole. She’s a huntress, got rid of the state jet, saving hundreds of thousands of dollars and drove herself around Alaska in her black suburban.
    Her nick in the town where she was mayor was BARRACUDA SARAH!!!!
    Her husband is a commercial fisherman and is currently a stay-at-home dad raising the 5 kids.

    OMG!!!!!! I’m dnacing and crying and laughing all at the same time.



    Can you hear us NOW, muthafuckas?????

  37. Please, some respects should be paid. Shall we all take a moment and reflect on the DNC and its passing?


    Thank you.

    Fuck you, DNC, you screwed it up yet again!

  38. pm!!!!

    I think MO’s choice in dress has ranged from downright dowdy to totally inappropriate!

    Nothing at all ‘hip’ about her wardrobe. The dress she wore yesterday resembled something stored in the back of my grandmother’s closet or a flower arrangement for a funeral! (IMHO)

  39. From

    by Adam Brickley,
    Guest Contributor

    Sarah Palin is an anomaly in American politics. It’s not because she’s a woman, not because of her blue-collar background, and not because of her ability to juggle the titles of “governor” and “committed mother of five”. Forget about all of that stuff for a moment; it’s interesting, but if Barack Obama has taught us anything, it’s that a compelling biography is not a qualification for leadership. Instead, Palin is unique because she can claim one of the broadest bases of support of any leader in our country. Other than the lunatic fringes of Alaska’s kleptocratic political establishment, nobody hates her.

    Most politicians rise to power because they represent a certain wing of their party, and even some of their own partisans detest them. Mike Huckabee will never resonate with libertarian republicans, social conservatives cannot support Rudy Giuliani, certain evangelicals will always have a problem with Mitt Romney, and frankly I doubt that hard-core conservatives will ever fully embrace John McCain. That doesn’t make them bad candidates; it just means that they face significant opposition within the Republican Party. Sarah Palin does not have that problem.



    She could be nude and I still don’t like MO because she is mean spirited and filled with hate.

    I want people in leadership that will uplift me and show humility and respect for the voters and their need…it’s COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!

    I know it is easy to be in a party but when the focus is only on the party and not best for “We the People” then this country has problems.

    What the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY did to WOMEN in their HATRED agains HILLARY was PATHETIC and showed they’re not ready to be in the White House. NATIONALIZING the CORRUPTED CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE and other ILLS was it for me.

    Then that mysoginist Jim Clyburn throwing Geraldine under the bus…NAILED THE COFIN SHUT!!!

    I hope some caught that rant and play it over and over again…Clyburn rant will move the other 20% over to McCain alone.

  41. I woke up to read about Palin – and I’m not Holy Shit.

    Wow. I am speechless. Well, like anyone she has to be considered on her merits too, but yes, Hillary broke the ceiling. I can sense the sexism and misogyny starting all over again in the media – even Howard Wolfson saying “Gov of Alaska far away from being VP or President” which is code for “she’s a woman, she must not have any merit.”

  42. Please, some respects should be paid. Shall we all take a moment and reflect on the DNC and its passing?


    ::bows head for one nano second::


  43. …and now CNN reporter talking about Palin’s “beauty contest days.” geez, here we go again. But this is an amazing gesture from maverick McCain.

  44. Basil, you may be right. I don’t know much about being hip. 🙂 Is she trying to think that is what Jackio O would wear?

  45. Well REp Clyburn, we will show you what a fucking disaster it was for Ferrero to be selected as vp. We, the women of American are going to beat the pants of your little butts. WE WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN!

  46. i have not seen MO’s dress nor heard ObamaLord’s speech. I was on a plane. Any links for MO’s housecoat? 😀

  47. WOW…MSNBC have tracked down all the folks they can to slam Palin…

    McCain’s BAD JUDGMENT is the meme

  48. Politics is a bloody business. If the misogyny starts up, the Republican party will close ranks and speak out against it. Unlike the undemocratic party. Now, Rezko, Wright, and MO can be unleased. How can they talk about experience or being far away from Washington. BO has less experience than Palin, and he is running for President. Give me a f****** break.

  49. I put this in the wrong article:

    By STEVE QUINN, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago

    JUNEAU, Alaska – In just two short years, Sarah Palin moved from suburban hockey mom and small-town mayor to vice presidential contender. The 44-year-old Republican, Alaska’s first female governor, arrived at the Capitol in 2006 on an ethics reform platform after defeating two former governors in the primary and general elections. On Friday she was ready to leap to the national stage as GOP presidential candidate John McCain’s surprise choice for running mate, according to two senior campaign officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement was pending.

    She already has a national reputation for bucking her party’s establishment and Alaska’s powerful oil industry back home.

    With ethics the centerpiece of her campaign, Palin defeated incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski, who served 22 years in the U.S. Senate before winning the governor’s seat in 2002.

    Her task didn’t seem any easier in the general election, but she handily beat Tony Knowles, a popular Democrat who already served two terms as governor.

    During her first year in office, Palin distanced herself from the powerful old guard of the state Republican Party, even calling on Sen. Ted Stevens to explain to Alaskans why federal authorities were investigating him.

    Since then, their relationship has warmed, and they have appeared together at several events. Stevens even said lawmakers should follow Palin’s lead in her efforts to get a natural gas pipeline built.

    Stevens is scheduled to go on trial Sept. 22 in Washington, D.C., on charges he failed to disclose more than $250,000 in home renovations and gifts from executives at oil services contractor VECO Corp. He won the GOP primary on Tuesday with more than 60 percent of the vote. He’s pleaded not guilty.

    Palin also asked Alaska’s congressional delegation to be more selective in seeking earmarks after what came to be known as the “Bridge to Nowhere” turned into a national embarrassment and a symbol of piggish pork-barrel spending.

    She also successfully took on the oil industry, leading to a tax increase on oil company profits that now has the state’s treasury swelling.

    Typically seen walking the Capitol halls in black or red power suits while reading text messages on Blackberry screens in each hand, Palin made a recent appearance in Vogue, the fashion magazine.

    And she oversees a state that’s hardly shy about admiring her swept-back hair and celebrated smile. Bumper stickers and blogs have proclaimed Alaska and Palin: “Coldest State, Hottest Governor.”

    Palin describes herself as a “hockey mom” and an occasional commercial fisherwoman. She lives in Wasilla, a town of 6,500 about 30 miles north of Anchorage, with her husband, Todd, a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who competes in the Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. He is part Yup’ik Eskimo.

    Her previous political experience consisted of terms as Wasilla’s mayor and councilwoman and a stint as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

    Palin’s troubles with the GOP began when Murkowski named her chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. There, Palin exposed current Alaska Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruedrich, who was also an AOGCC commissioner, for ethical violations.

    In 2005, Palin co-filed an ethics complaint against Murkowski’s longtime aide and then attorney general, Gregg Renkes, for having a financial interest in a company that stood to gain from an international trade deal he was helping craft.

    The Palins have five children: Track, 19; Bristol 17; Willow 14; Piper, 7, and Trig, who was born in April with Down syndrome.

    Track enlisted in the Army in 2007 on the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and has been assigned to Fort Wainwright in Fairbanks.

    Palin was born Feb. 11, 1964, in Idaho, but her parents moved to Alaska shortly after her birth to teach. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987.

  50. ok Carby.
    Couldn’t help myself 😉

    BTW, Palin’s son is in the military and may be in Iraq. Not sure of that.

  51. What we need to do is get Republican women to turn out to vote in droves.

    And I, for one, plan on doing just that. 🙂

  52. Thanks Basil

    I am sure I will see them, but I agree COMPLETELY, we really need to get off the fashion and beauty queen express . We hated it with Hillary, we will not do it to other women no matter how much we dislike them.

    We need to hold BOTH PARTIES AND THE MEDIA TO ACCOUNT and slam them WHENEVER EITHER SIDE engage in this shit. It keeps women in a place of subjective judgment by those less wualified and those who think women are less.


    :doing happy dance:

    ps – can we please refrain from criticizing Gov. Palin’s choice of clothing, whatever she wears?

  54. carbynew Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:44 am
    I was not just making a fashion statement. What they choose to wear is a window into who they are and what they bring to the role they have to play. You can’t go wearing shorts to a black tie dinner and say they have to accept me as is — there has to be something exponentially redeeming about you that they will accept you as is. Unfortunately most of us are constrained by the mores of the society we live in.

  55. IU – It IS up to us to keep them in check, and ourselves. We have been conditioned to have that “look at her hair” “look at her dress” thing as part of OUR psyche’s too.

    HILLARY CLINTON WE LOVE YOU! We have pushed women front and center and we will reward you for that in 2012. BIG TIME

  56. I will never forget Hillary being mad about the harry and louise ads. She got up on a stage with those ads in her hand and said”Meet me in Ohio, Barack Obama”, so it is only fitting that McCain takes this fight at “high noon” to Ohio!! ROTFLMAO!!

    Ok Chicago thugs you are on notice!! Go ahead and try to treat Sarah like you all treated Hillary!!

  57. McCain picked another outsider, with a history of taking on her own party over corruption, etc.

    McCain is tacking fast back to his maverick roots.

  58. I agree that TASTE has something to do with your perceptions of self and of protocol and judgment, but the “fat ankles” thing that Hillary got or the “shrill” laugh was what keeps women as sex objects.

  59. # Illinois Underground Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    ps – can we please refrain from criticizing Gov. Palin’s choice of clothing, whatever she wears?

    from what I have seen of her pictures, she is doing fine in that department, except for those bangs, 🙂

  60. I think McCain’s pick of Palin is risky, but you know what? It won’t keep me from voting for the man. Actually, I think it’s a slap in the office of Obafraud who claims to be the candidate of change, yet goes for a Washington insider/attack dog to make up for his thin resume. He chose to kick Hillary once again, instead of guaranteeing the Democrats victory in November..nice Barry! I know Hillary’s voters will be enticed and tempted to vote for McCain now even more. In all, I think it was a smart move. It not only takes away the spotline from Obambi, but the McCain campaign can also claim to be agents of change by nominating only the second woman ever as VP, and the first female VP candidate for the Republicans…brilliant!

  61. Hey Obama!

    Take your criticisms of Palin and choke on it!

    At least McCain didn’t pick a plagiarist/old washington politics guy!

  62. Janet reno, Condi Rice, even Nasty Pelosi are all criticized for their LOOKS, their hair or their terrible multiple facelifts….

    their ACHIEVEMENTS (despite whether you agree with them or not) are always the Sub-head.

    It’s TERRIBLE and we need it to stop.

  63. pm,

    I agree about appropriate attire. Personally, I can’t stand the sight of professional women traipsing about with a lot of flesh showing. You never see business men with bare arms, exposed skin. It’s always suit and tie with all body parts covered.

    That IS the appropriate dress for important occasions. Let’s face it, the sight of women with bare skin conjures centuries old stereotypes and reinforces patriarchal views on women as property. Women who flaunt that in very public very important public settings play into the same old tired patriarchal perspective. Other fashion choices are fine in less formal settings, IMHO.

  64. Another item yhat I posted after admin told us new article was up:


    I heard on PBS last week that Sarah and Randy Ruedrich still don’t speak to each other. She says as The state’s Rep Party Chief, he has nothing to do with the governing of Alaska, so communication w/ him is not necessary anyway.


  65. Yes, I agree, I don;t want the first lady or the VP or the Speaker of the House looking like a hooker, but we need to really start looking at the ACCOMPLISHMENTS and the convictions and the politics of these folks before whether they have bangs.

  66. Norma,

    Agreed but MO sniped at HRC using the same man-against-woman arguments used for centuries, including the scornful, “if she can’t run her own house how can she run the WH.”

    If that’s not pandering to repression by intimating that a woman’s most important role is keeping her man ‘happy’ i don’t know what is.

    She invited stereotypical comparsons by firing the first shot.

  67. Norma, we always pick on the looks and dress of politicians. How many hair plug jokes have we made about Biden?

    I agree that doing it exclusively or relentlessly to women is wrong. But I don’t think any and all reference to appearance is automatically wrong.

  68. Norma,

    MO has no accomplishments unless ‘World’s- Angriest -Woman’ qualifies plus she’s is the first one to really attack HRC on female issues, opening the floodgates and encouraging the media piling on.

    MO made that ‘if you can’t run your own house’ statement in February.

  69. c-span is going to show a 30 minute interview they did w/ Palin when she was in Washington for the Guv’s Conference.

  70. I think Obama is shitting like a wild boar in a peach orchard. No convention bounce to speak of and now Sara Palin–someone who cleaned up state corruption, as opposed to Obama who revelled in it. Obama drips with stench of corruption–he is like a mackeral in the moonlight–he shines but he stinks.

  71. They are speaking about the press attention she will be getting.

    I will say, that when we did our Hillary parade in Denver, there we were in the front row, and suddenly, a voice….”Gloria Alred would like to march with you” I turned around, invited Gloria to the front with us, and when I yurned around there mush have been 300 THREE HUNDRED of the world media 30 inches away. They cam from NO WHERE and it was a wall of cameras, video equipment, sound booms and flash bulbs like i have never witnessed personally ANYWHERE. It must be what Madonna goes through daily. They were three deep and three levels hig, and stretched fifty feet from side to side. It was quite overwhelming. And they stayed that way for quite a while. We couldn’t move forward. Then they walked backwards for quite a while while Gloria and Elizabeth were interviewing. It was AMAZING.

  72. moon,

    And Palin looks HOT with that AK-47 in her hands. LOL

    I was toying with the idea of getting a gun permit now that i live in the country and the sight of Palin nudged me that much closer.

    And her hubby IS a hunk! He’s part eskimo.

  73. Informed, I don’t and I too am guilty, but it is what we have been working for for months now with the DNC and the media.

    And women do it too. Just look at Mika. She slams women all day long

  74. McCain Talkilng Points on Palin


    Governor Sarah Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her Administration and has seen approval ratings of over 80 percent.

    · She has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy resources.

    · She leads a state that matters to every one of us — Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent.

    · She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending. And she put a stop to the bridge to nowhere that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.

    · In Alaska, she challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill.

    · As the head of Alaska’s National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.

    Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington.

    In choosing Governor Sarah Palin, John McCain put Washington on notice that he is serious about shaking up the status quo.

    What we’re seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state.

    What it’s going to take to change Washington is a team of Mavericks who have a record of accomplishment in shaking up the status quo.

  75. Norma, that’s one of the many reasons we can’t stand playmate Mika.

    Anyone, what’s the song they’re playing?


    All right, now I’m excited. Back in March, I cast my primary vote for John McCain with confidence. His values, his stance on the issues matched mine better than those of any other Republican. His campaign was on a roll, the reports of its death the previous summer having been greatly exaggerated. He seemed to have the best chance of winning. But once he got the nomination, he just seemed … lackluster. Granted, almost no one is going to look charismatic compared with Barack Obama, but when I saw an episode of The Daily Show with McCain talking to the press at a supermarket, standing in front of a large display of Dole orange juice, I knew what the joke was before Jon Stewart could open his mouth. . John McCain = Bob Dole.

    But now he’s gone and picked Sarah Palin, the young governor of Alaska for his running mate, and I could not be happier. Aside from her political bona fides, she is one cool woman. She’s married to her high-school sweetheart, an Eskimo fisherman and “champion snowmobiler,” according to her Wikipedia bio. They have five kids, all with slightly hippie-ish names, like Track and Willow. (No Prestons and Whitneys in that bunch.)

    She’s bound to appeal to fiscal conservatives, because she’s as far as you can get from her fellow Alaskan Ted Stevens, the GOP senator recently indicted for “false financial disclosures” (read: corruption). She unseated Gov. Frank Murkowski in a primary and has both pushed through ethics reform and trimmed the fat from the state budget. She even killed the infamous “bridge to nowhere” project that brought Congress and Alaska so much ridicule.

    Politically, it’s a great move by McCain to appeal to the disgruntled Hillary voters that Obama might not have successfully wooed during the convention this week. Yes, she’s pro-life, but she’s not just talk. Faced with the heartbreaking news that her fifth child would likely have Down syndrome, she continued on with the pregnancy and gave birth to a son while in office, a son she calls “perfect.” And like Hillary, she’s one tough cookie. You don’t take on an entrenched pol like Murkowski and succeed in a rugged state like Alaska if you’re a lightweight.

  77. Notice Big Mac (oooh, I like that) and his fam came up through their supporters. Stood among them for a good long while.

  78. CognitiveDissonance, on August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm Said:
    OMG, I can’t believe it! I’m laughing my a** off! I’ve been thinking for weeks that if McCain really wanted to cream Obama, he would pick Sarah Palin. She’s an attractive pick on so many levels, and I’m not talking about her face. She may be new to those of you on the East Coast, but she’s pretty well known here on the West Coast. I’ve long admired her, and partly because she’s tough like Hillary. When she played basketball, she was known as Sarah Barracuda. She had an attack dog like Biden when she ran and won, and she tore him a new one in debates. Like Hillary, she does her homework. She may not have been in her current office long, but she’s not going to embarrass McCain.

    And I don’t feel insulted at all that McCain is pandering to us. Unlike our own party and Odumby, he realizes that we are a valuable constituency. He’s been out actively courting us ever since Hillary left the race. Why do you think Hillary keeps appearing in his ads? And why he keeps complimenting her? And don’t forget that he really is against corruption, and I doubt it escapes him how his friend Hillary lost this campaign. He may be relieved that he doesn’t have to run against her. But friends care when a friend gets screwed over.

    The fact that he made this pick is telling us that he knows how important we are. When was the last time a democrat said that to us? We’ve been hearing all year that we aren’t important, that we should just get over it, that we should shut our mouths. It’s too bad that it’s going to take a republican to show the country that women are important. But the message is important, and I’m glad to see it. McCain has risen in my estimation. And here’s another benefit. We kept hearing that the fauxgressives weren’t against women, just Hillary. They’ve painted themselves into a corner. If they go after Palin, they’ve shown the world what liars they are.

  79. basil9 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    Yea, I know. This is not about some frivolous discussion on how women look that completely ignores their accomplishments. (my bangs comment was in jest, it is like saying a man looks better with a different haircut). It is clarity of purpose — why are you here? I can’t go stand in front my 40 male or female students in a short skirt and a low neck blouse — that would take away the seriousness of purpose of teaching them relational algebra. I could try but I am forcing them to accept something that is not widely practiced and is a distraction to my purpose of being there. Men don’t have as many options as we have but still have you ever seen a male professor go in front of his class in something he would wear on the beach or even just plain shorts?

    {the lack of seriousness in Obama’s team at the convention is something I saw and they may not even be aware that that is how it is coming across. Running for the leader of the free world is serious business.}

  80. We just updated the article with quick thoughts on Palin. Let us know what you think.

    Congratulations Kostner – you pushed for Palin the most. Congratulations to those of you who thought Palin. Brilliant choice.

  81. LMAO!

    “She stands up for what’s right, and doesn’t let anyone tell her to SIT DOWN.”

    Crowd goes wild.

  82. Guys, I am crying. I know she’s a Republican, but dammit there is a WOMAN on that stage, and I am bawling.

  83. Whoa, there Clyburn, Gerry was not a disaster! One of my best memories of that campaign was when she debated Bush, Sr. I sat there thinking, “She’s so good! She’s making him look like a mealy-mouthed weasel!”

    We’ve got to stop trivializing women by focusing on what they wear. Leave that to the bimbos on TV. That said, may I add (with a tsk, tsk) that MO is pandering to sexist notions about what women ought to look like because she, like her mate, doesn’t know who she is or what she stands for. Hillary’s attire showed she was “all business.” Hillary is comfortable with who she is.

  84. I feel some strongly worded letters to NOW, NARAL and Emily’s list coming on. They’ve completely lost their way over the last decades.

  85. This takes nothing from Hillary — PAlin is chosen for VP, not Pres — HIllary ran for President and did it damned well and won. Palin has broken no new ground, she is the 2nd woman to be chose for VP. Gerry was the first, but Our Hillary is still number one!

  86. Idunn

    Just saw your question:

    btw Sarah just gave a GREAT and gracious shout-out to Geraldine and our girl!

  87. Dick Morris, sleazebag/political genius, had been saying that if McCain picked a woman, the race is over and he wins easily. I think he’s right, and the more I read about Palin, the more I think, okay, this year is over, McCain is the next president. THEN, the interesting question now becomes, what about 2012?

  88. I’m crying again, with pride and regret that HRC wasn’t the one on stage by Palin hit it out of the park.
    She said ALL the things BOMOJO wouldn’t

    She homored women’s suffagists, HRC and Ferraro.
    She paid respect to HRC’s accomplishments.
    I am thrilled with this ticket and i will vote McCain/Palin without a single regret.
    My only criticsim . .

    WTH chose that IDIOTIC closing music????!!!!!! Talk about anti-climactic!!!!!!

  89. Executive
    handsome working family

    Mac is one smart and courageous dude! He reminded me why I’ve always liked him (I’m a sucker for reformers). Now, if he just moderates another party plank or two with his leadership, it’s game – set – match.

    I’m so sad it’s not Hillary, though.

  90. McCain just won the Whitehouse. Palin was a briiliant pick. Middle america is going to love love love this woman.

    Sorry, but that’s the truth. I know voters.

  91. Its sad that it is not Hillary, but McCain/Palin will be honoring Hillary at every corner, something I might add Bambi hasn’t done.

    I am just so excited, the headache I have had for 4 days is now gone. Geez, I wonder if it had anything to do with the smacking of Hillary everyday at the convention.

    She gave a good speech and gave credit to the women before her.

    I hope Brazoid is pissing her pants!

  92. I going to go to a Republican rally…this will be my first time and now that the Democratic? Taliban Party jumped off the clift I can now campaign for McCain.

    I love McCain/Palin ticket and she give a great speech, if fact better then Obama, who has to have his speeches written for him.

    Obama is TOAST!!!

    What a bitter young man and those he surround himself with.

    Now this is the Republican party I like…the reform ticket.

    Remember, Martin Luther King jr. was a Republican…he never became a Democrat!

  93. Did everyone notice the crowd was shouting USA! USA!

    At Obama rallies we get the “Yes we can”

    Which slogan wins in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania? We bet USA! is much more popular than Ob-am-a, Ob-am-a.

  94. Woke up this morning to the news that Palin and her family had been slipped into the Cincinnati airport on a private plane…I still listen to WGN radio overnight-

    Thought it might just be a headfake rumor.

    They were saying they chose Cincy in order to avoid the media hawks at the Dayton airport.

    btw, I got my M.S. at Wright State- a stone’s throw from Wright Patterson AFB.

    In fact the land for the University was donated by the Air Force.

    I wonder how Emily’s List is reacting.

  95. Still boo-hooing and an hour late for an appointment.

    How poignant that today was Johnny’s birthday, Palin’s 20th wedding anniversary and the week of the 88th celebration of women’s suffrage.

    And notice how neither she nor Johnny needed a tele-prompter?

    BTW – what happened to Cindy’s arm? She has a cast on.

    Gotta go but will check in later for more happy dance time.

  96. Emjay, you need to watch her acceptance speech later. The woman was DAMN GOOD. This was no “token”. McCain just won the Whitehouse.

  97. admin Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Hillary is still smashing the glass ceiling. Watching this is very painful.

    I was crying my heart out but also laughing that somebody got back to the shameful DNC and the Obama cabal.

  98. Spokesman Bill Burton:
    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency…

    Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
    His remarks are elitist and out of touch.”

    Obama hates small town America. He never learns

  99. Another thing: McCain could have blown up the unDemocratic convention with this announcement. He didn’t because he knew it would help Hillary. The Republicans wanted to run against loser Obama.

  100. It does not matter if it came from a rooster or a hen, we are getting a Mac Nugget when we could have had prime grade A.

  101. Did anyone see that sign at the rally that said Hillary Clinton’s supporters for John McCain!!

    Now all the republicans need to do is play the whitey tape and Obama, Dean, Pelosi, and Brazilla will be toast!! I love it!!

  102. check rasmussen today — no significant convention bounce for Bambi, is the takeaway! and of course now we’re going to get wall-to-wall Republican party coverage for the next week, so once the conventions are over, McCain/Palin will be sitting pretty

  103. Idunn, paraphrase, but she said she could not accept this honor, in this week honoring women given the right to vote, without giving credit to the women who paved the way. Geralding Ferraro and, of course, Hillary Clinton. HUGE CHEERS.

    Said that Hillary put 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling, and thanked her for that. Said she wants to break it, but had to honor those who put those cracks there for her.

    It was great.

  104. McCain camp pushes back: More qualified than Obama

    McCain aide Jill Hazelbaker:

    It is pretty audacious for the Obama campaign to say that Governor Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. She has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for President.

  105. Idunn, she talked about Hillary leaving 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling and that women are not through yet cracking the glass ceiling. Palin then invited Americans to join McCain/Palin in smashing more of the glass ceiling.

    HillaryForTexas, hopefully all will do like you and wear Hillary gear to political rallies – Big Media will interview Hillary wearing voters at Republican rallies and the Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi will always rue the day they snubbed Hillary and us.

    PM317, ain’t it grand. Revenge is best served cold.

  106. Well, I know that John McCain could have announced this early, but let us not forget this is a race and you don’t give your opponent a spot. I don’t blame him for wanting to run against the candidate that has a broken big toe!

  107. BerkeleyVox, is Rasmussen out for today? If Obama is not in double digits today…. Suicide, Rigor Mortis, Funeral.

  108. I wonder what is going through HRC’s mind right now.

    (sigh) I hope Bambi gets his ass served to him on a fucking platter. 😡

  109. Isn’t it funny how even though McCain’s pick was a thousand times more stunning than the boring Biden pick, and even though the Obama camp had hyped for no end how their announcement would be made by text message, that the Obama pick leaked early and the Palin pick was kept under wraps? lol

  110. She has a populist message for a republican (I will have to go back and listen again) and reform and change. Whatever she said sounded very smart and she substantiated it with what she has done in her career — so it did not sound phony. There was an authenticity to what she said that I have not seen before. I am still in awe — she said the good old boys network as a matter of course and got away with it.

  111. There is a fine line here:

    FIRST AND FOREMOST, it is a GREAT DAY in American Politics in every sense. We have a MAJOR WOMAN CANDIDATE, an AA Candidate, and a woman on the ticket as VEEP. THIS IS A GREAT DAY IN AMERICAN POLITICS.


    Second: The Republicans have NOT been our friends. Perhaps McCain can say go to hell to the far right base now and work on an agenda that includes all Americans. We need to remember this and hold them to account. Hillary is a died in the wool FDR Democrat, and those ARE the people who we would like to see in office. The FAR LEFT DEAN/Pelosi/Brazile/Obama crowd has done NOTHING for women except throw them under the bus.

    And although we as women MUST be respected in Politics, PLEASE, we cannt throw the baby out with the bathwater by going all the way for the Republicans.

    Watch, learn, and hold to account. The Republicans have tried for 16 years and longer to destroy Hillary, and although JSM and HRC are FRIENDS, they are still ideological foes.

    It will be interesting.

  112. From Fox:

    GERALDINE FERRARO: It’s going to be a very interesting campaign. I must say that several months ago I said that it would be great if there was a woman on the ticket, that I felt that John McCain would have to pick someone, especially if Hillary was the nominee, but without Hillary being the nominee it’s really quite equally as important, because people are looking for a historic campaign, and I think this might do it. There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated by the media, by how she was treated by the Obama campaign, by how she was treated by the Democratic National Committee, Howard Dean not speaking up when sexism raised its ugly head in the media. (Inaudible)

  113. idunn, I bet Hillary is smiling quietly to herself, thinking, well-played, Senator McCain…you just made yourself the next President. And Hillary is so gracious and selfless that I bet that even though she strongly disagrees with Palin’s politics, she is glad to know that America can elect a woman to the vice presidency.

  114. Palin just did what NONE of the Dem leadership could bring themselves to do. She honored Hillary’s achievement in a very heartfelt way.

  115. They had McCain’s rep (on Fox) and this is how they will frame her foreign policy experience (lack there of as Obama people would want to argue) — tying it to energy independence and coherent energy policy and she knows a thing or two about Oil.

  116. First Impression [Kathleen Parker]

    Spunky and self-confident. She’ll handle Biden just fine.

    08/29 12:48 PM

  117. And here is another thought. If McCain wins, there is a chance that Palin and HRC could be BOTH running in 2012, and THAT would be a FABULOUS THING for the advancement of American Women and women around the world.

    Well done McCain.

  118. admin — yes: Obama has just a 3-point lead, which is almost within the margin of error:


    Friday, August 29, 2008

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 46% of the vote nationwide while John McCain earns 43%.

  119. That Speech has blown me away, she sill bring in blue collar voters and women and union members in spades.

  120. I would not be at all surprised if Hillary and Johnny Mac had a conversation or two over this pick. If so, I would bet our Hillary told him: “Go for it.”

  121. Berkeley – I think you’ve nailed it. Smiling quietly and cheering her colleague for his toughness and creativity – with all her characteristic intelligence, grace, dignity and humor.

  122. It really won’t make much difference who or what they tie her to, because once they play the Whitey tapes and the tape of Obama saying terrible things about American in 06′ while in Africa, that will be all over for the dumocrats!

  123. Yes Admin, good show. The Obama?Dean?Pelosi?Brazile bitter politics Dems have just thrown a winning 16 years away because they COULD NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH

  124. Rush just said the mention of Hillary and Geraldine was GENIUS! Rush says as the Drive-Bys try to destroy her, they will destroy themselves. Barry could have picked a woman but he didn’t. So Joe loves to bloody noses, she knows about getting knocked down and middle America will love her. Rush says she is extremely confident and will inspire other women. Questions for Barry to ask her—Governor is hunting scary? Do you cut your finger on the hook when you fish?

  125. Norma, you’re right. This is a temporary euphoria for what the DNC, the media and the Obama campaign did to Hillary and the notion of a viable woman presidential candidate. I see the Republicans as advancing our cause right now which is as you said FDR Democrats in the WH and not Obamacrats.

  126. The Obama campaign also told CNN Friday the choice of Palin takes the question of experience “off the table.”

    “Experience is being taken off the table considering you’re putting someone within a heartbeat of the presidency with the thinnest foreign policy experience in history,” spokesman Bill Burton said.

    Update: Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the 4th ranking House Democrat, said in a statement the choice of Palin “shows political panic.”

    “Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin’s lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn’t show judgment: it shows political panic,” he said.
    * * * * *
    Are they serious? Pack these pigs off to the farm. Coward and Bradzilla must be having twin cows just about now.

  127. To: riri
    I was at a meeting with a client this morning…they are a CPA firm. After the meeting we all walked to the lobby where a TV showed McCain introducing Palin.

    The excitement was incredible. Women were very pleased.

    It was great to see 25 people standing in front of a TV excited about a Republican for a change.

    Let’s hope she doesn’t have to spew McCains populist message too much and can stand on her own…a strong, conservative woman.

    After, she loves the caribou…for dinner.

  128. I don’t even think the whitey tapes will be necessary if McCain/Palin adopt somewhat middle of the road message.

  129. Idunn

    If you ever want a stream of something like this, or like the convention, go to c-span.

    No overtalk, no snarky commentary.

  130. ADMIN: you are the best political analyst I have seen. Once again your posting above captures the significance of the moment and gives us the important clues on what lies around the corner.

    Let me suggest one thing more. The coronation of Obama represents the triumph of party over country, whereas the selection of palin (and mccain himself) represents the truimph of country over party.

    mj: if you are around, you were right and I was wrong. You did your homework on this one and I did not.

    I have a strong emotional attachment to Alaska based on the times I spent there. They have always been a place that was plundered by outside interests and when the boom ended others reaped the rewards. The old boy network always saw to that. It was true of the gold rush, the fishing industry, the timber industry and of course the oil industry. Thus, it is great to see someone like her who fights for the people.

    The message to biden is this is not bush 3. It is a new party that puts the people of this country back in charge. And the symbolism of this coming from the frontier state is great. Hope is not a word it is action, and in the new republican party you have action. Now we need to unite and crush rezcko junior, crazy joe and big media whores so the democratic party can be put taken out of the hands of the teddy kennedys and Soros and put back in the hands of the people. Long live Hillay and Bill–they will be needed/

  131. Thanks for the video, admin. I miss our gal, but I am so proud of her, too. I want to see the current DNC leadership go DOWN with Obama, so she can step in in 2012 and rebuild it.

    It is giving me great personal joy that it will be a WOMAN who exacts the price for what the DNC did to Hillary. Palin will win this election for McCain, no doubt in my mind.

  132. Anyone else think Sarah Palin could flatten Obama in a one on one fist fight with one hand behind her back.

    She’s a mom with 5 kids, no greater experience in security and management.

  133. 2 points

    Palin as VP addresses a broad range of issues, Biden, national security only

    the other, it is absolutely refreshing to see someone in the republican party not afraid to stand up to the status quo and challenge their own party members.

  134. The bot journo’s are furious that their king just got his ass kicked. They are furious that McCain dared to crash Obama’s party.

  135. We have a lot to learn about Palin, and we have a HUGE opportunity to push the McCain platform MORE in OUR direction. I would suggest a big letter-writing campaign to his folks, thanking him for the choice, the nod to women wverywhere then ask, NOW WHAT?

    The same old Big Business and Republican corruption will not work on us. MAKE THEM CHANGE.

  136. Politico: “Still All About Hillary” is the headline.

    The choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate, if confirmed, means one thing most of all: That in a sense, this race is still all about Hillary.

    The imperative for McCain to pick a woman rests on Obama’s continuing, relative weakness with some of the baby boomer women who supported Clinton. McCain’s campaign spent the week of the convention trying to drive wedge between Clinton’s supporters and Obama, and a female running mate would be an ambassador to those voters.

  137. # marie3548 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    The bots are all over the place they are insane


    and this is different, how?

  138. Debbie, Hillfriends: Here in the corrupt state of IL, the only existant reformers of the moment are Repubs. Think Peter Fitzgerald. IL’s “two party” system: the Combine and the Reformers. (The reformers are very small in number right now.)

  139. The bots are FREAKING all over the blogs. Total meltdown. The kool-aid ran out, and they are decompensating BADLY. They are shaking and sweating and blathering nonsense like a crack-head who has been cut off by their dealer.

  140. Boy Admin, you had it right in the last three days of the Obits for the DNC….

    What STUPID STUPID people, but this WILL take out the leadership and bring American Politics full circle after Obama aand Co lose, and we will have advanced women in leadership and I HOPE gotten away from the VERY divisive ways of the last 20 years.

  141. Norma, I agree. I perceive our new opportunity is to unite WOMEN of BOTH parties and include our voices in policy, as well as politics.

  142. She is so articulate and a quick thinker; she appeared so natural and sincere when speaking.

    thank you john mccain!

    I am proud of you for once gain doing the RIGHT thing.

    Forget about the “no/little experience” obamabots. You have the right kind of experience over BO any day! and McCain has better than BO.

    Biden’s experience does not matter in this equation. He was chosen as the worker for BO!

    VP Palin is a quick, smart learner and that is the answer!

  143. They are shaking and sweating and blathering nonsense like a crack-head who has been cut off by their dealer.


    Thank you H4T for that brillaint analysis of the bots….hehehehe


    Noting to yet more cheers that she was honored to accept John McCain’s offer to serve as his running mate on nearly 88 years to the day after women gained suffrage, Palin payed homage to two predecessors: Geraldine Ferraro, Walter Mondale’s running mate in 1984, and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Noting Clinton’s statement earlier this week in Denver that her candidacy had led to “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” that has kept a woman from the presidency, Palin said: “But it turns out the women of American aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling.”

  145. The “no foreign policy experience” argument they are spouting is SO laughable it is not funny.

    Apparently, we’re supposed to be worried about foreign policy experience in the vice presidency, but not the presidency.

  146. Wow! This election is going to be very exciting. I like Palin, and her directness. She wasn’t afraid or so self-centered, not to give kudos to those women who made this possible. Good for her. This is a shake-up of great magnitude, especially in the Republican party and good ole-boys network. McCain showed a bit of his maverick ways in this choice.

    If I go to a McCain rally, I will wear my Hillary gear. McCain listened to Hillary supporters, in addition to realizing there was treasure trove of votes to be had. He went for it.

  147. Obama, Again, Exhibits Zero Class [Update: Unlike Obama, Governor Palin Visited Our Wounded Troops in Germany

    h t t p : / /

  148. SHe is very articulate and is able to pump up the ticket!!

    Let us NEVER forget what the DEmocrats did to Hillary and 2 days ago we all vowed to clean out the party and put it back on track and John McCain just made it a whole lot easier.

    BTW, I loved that “from a servants heart”.

  149. a natural speaker, she has barely looked at her speech the whole way through that.

    McCain found the one running mate who is human and so grounded, she has the all american family that has been missing here.

    Her family is real, not plastic fabricated and that my friends is going to be what wins the WH for McCain. The woman is a real person, a real blue collar not like Biden. She’s a grafter. She’s a mother and a wife and a human.

  150. Noting Clinton’s statement earlier this week in Denver that her candidacy had led to “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” that has kept a woman from the presidency, Palin said: “But it turns out the women of American aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling.”

    It’s great she acknowledged them, but in a way it takes away from Hillary. I just wanted Hillary to be president.

  151. HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    The bots are FREAKING all over the blogs.
    * * * * *
    Samples, please?

  152. She also got rid of all the serventrs in the Alaska Gov mansion, and the cooks and stuff, found them jobs too!

    While Obama struggles to pay the $10K piano lessons while looking for his wine cellar.

  153. dedfg: I don’t think, it takes anything away from Hillary. Hillary shattered that glass ceiling with 18 million cracks, and Palin recognized it.

  154. FYI from another blog: Ohio is McCain’s
    I need to say something. I love Savage. I come here everyday and you guys brighten up my day. I will also say that I voted for Hillary in Ohio in the primaries. I wasn’t sure who I was going to vote for between McCain and Hillary, but I knew I sure didn’t want Obama. I have been on McCain’s site for a few months and if it is Palin, it was not something that was done overnight and in reaction to Obama’s not picking Hillary. We have been giving input to McCain for months and Palin was always on the short list. So while the speculation is that he picked her because Obama didn’t pick Hillary is going around the news pundits, it isn’t so. We were given the chance to voice our opinions to the McCain campaign and a lot of us have been actively pushing for Palin. Even if it isn’t her, we still had the chance to make our voices heard with McCain. And his campaign kept us updated. I am going to back McCain now no matter who he picks. The thought of Obama as president makes me sick to my stomach. So I just wanted to put that out there that this was not a pick just to off set Obama. He had been looking at Palin for a while. McCain has surrounded himself with alot of powerful women from Meg Whittman, Carly Fiorna (sp) and last but not least, his own wife. Hillary was robbed and treated poorly but I am disappointed in the fact that she went through hell and still supported Obama. She knows he is not presidential material. I would have loved to see Hillary run as an Independent. But she didn’t.

  155. The male Democratic? pundits are so pissed!!!

    They have the NERVE to say Palin pick for vp will not draw Hillary Clinton’s supporters….are they kidding themselves.

    YES WE CAN vote for a McCain/Palin ticket and I will help sell this ticket with minorities.

  156. FOLKS, this does not take away from Hillary, she fought for this, it is not her fault the Dumocrats did not realize that women will be the ones to elect the next president, not the AA’s!

  157. On all the puma blogs, the mods are deleting trolls as fast as they can, so I can’t copy. They are not even human any more, just posting stuff like POOPOO KAKA PUMA KAKA, that goes on for an entire page. They are just cutting and pasting the same statement over and over, 100’s of times. I kid you not.

    A few have come in with “You stupid old hags! How can you vote for a pro-lifer just because she is a woman! WHAT IS WRONG wITH YOU???!!!!”

  158. Birdgal, I agree…although we will have to wait, probably for Hil in 2012, this IS what Hillary has worked so hard for all her life, and others WILL benefit now and in the future. It is because of HRC and other strong women, Richards, Abzug, Ferraro, Palin can even be Gov of Alaska

  159. My only disappointment is that this complicates Hillary’s 2012 run, slightly. But hey — you fight the battle in front of you. No whining allowed!

  160. McCain accomplished something no other could have. Obama’s campaign cannot push Hillary to campaign for him anymore — it will be a reminder after reminder how she was let go, even for VP.

  161. It also makes it MUCH easier for her to step back in in in 2012 and make her case that the far left Deaniacs were OFF THE MARK and we need a good strong American Values Dem in the white house – not the elitist pick of the upper crust of oblivion Kerry, Kennedy, et al.

  162. Berkeley, we can worry about that later. Right we just need a placeholder and McCain is that. But having watched Palin, she is no shrinking violet. But we are behind Clinton in 2012.

  163. I just heard Sarah Palin speak, and she did thank Hillary for putting 18,000,000 cracks in that hard glass ceiling. She knows who she owes her selection to. She spoke brilliantly, named the “Old Boys Network” and who would have thought that a Republican for vice president would have named the Old Boys Network and called it that? A brilliant, brilliant choice.

    If we have to give up the Supreme Court and abortion rights for some freakin’ R-E-S-P-E-C-T and crush the Democrats for their misogynistic stupidity, it might be worth it.

  164. H4T: “stupid old hags”?????? Way to build a coalition. The stupidity of this entire Democratic? primary process has been breathtaking.

  165. maria, don’t forget that the author of Roe v Wade was a NIXON appointee. The Democratic? Senate will be forced to actually do some work.

  166. Wbboei

    Did you send me the work? Havn’t seen anything in the email. If it got bounced back, let me know and I’ll make a second solid contact’

  167. moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    a natural speaker, she has barely looked at her speech the whole way through that.
    yep, no teleprompters there.

  168. If we have to give up the Supreme Court and abortion rights for some freakin’ R-E-S-P-E-C-T and crush the Democrats for their misogynistic stupidity, it might be worth it.

    NO NO NO

    These are lifetime appointments, and the Courts are getting scary already. We must do BOTH, keep women in power, and MAKE the republicans and dems BOTH accountable.

    For those who do not know what it took to GET ROE and KEEP ROE, it ISNT ALL ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS

  169. I think she will galvanize the pro-lifer’s to John and will hence be able to show Obama’s vote on late-term abortions front and center for the right wingers because of her last child that has down’s syndrome.

  170. Regarding the abortion rights…hey when the Democratic? National Convention had an anti-abortion right speech by and Black minister…that should speak loudly what direction the Democratc were moving to.

    The more our technology improve in showing life in the womb, the weaker support for abortion get. I still believe in choice but the Democrats were movie to limited it anyway.

    Prevention should be the focus.

  171. Rights to pricacy, rights to our bodies, rights to no be beaten by our husbands.

    TOO MANY WOMEN HAVE DIED for this right, and to throw that away is INTOLERABLE especially for revenge. We MUST play smarter

  172. pm…abortion rights AS IT IS BEING USED BY THE DEMS IS a red herring, but the REAL rights conferred are NOT. Lose Roe, lose the first amendment next. Lose title 9. DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you cast aside Roe with a wave of the hand.

  173. Evangelical leaders have just flocked to McCain in an instant, there is elation in Christian households. This is what they wanted.

    they are already reacting with elation.

  174. Hill supporters the time has come for all of us to turn the page and start a campaign to have Hillary named the new Senate majority leader.she will maintain her prominence in US politics and keep a lid on any more attempts to destroy our elevtoral process.She could well be even more important and more powerful than any one on either side of the aisle.In fact if by any
    stroke of bad luck we get Obama instead of McCain.she will be able to keep him insignificant and thart his attempts to promote his “LEGACY OF RESTITUTION ” campaign promise to his AA
    supporters. Let us start some smart moves and give this great Lady a reward for her tough and brave efforts to save this country from going Third World. I will vote for McCain and keep up my efforts to have Hillary as the Senate leader and in 2012
    she will be our 45th President.

    By ABM90 . If I am able to muster this much energy and
    determination at my age then I expect to have some of you youngsters out there to join me and make it happen.


  175. I certainly hope the msm begin calling Sarah those unspeakable names as they did Hillary and see what happens, millions and millions of women will revolt!!

  176. Palin is not and has never been a big anti-abortion activist. She is about as weak a pro-lifer as it gets. She is mouthing the words “Roe v Wade overturn” as a sop to the fundamentalists, so as not to scare them off.

    Neither she nor McCain have any intention whatsoever of touching Roe. Neither did Bush. Neither do any of them.

  177. Norma, agreed. The US Senate must do it’s work. Don’t forget, HILLARY will be THERE. Maybe she’ll take on the judiciary committee – she would do a better job than Biden’ (his time) aka the only one who didn’t say “no.”

  178. YES, ABM90: HILLARY FOR SENATE MAJORITY LEADER! (Perhaps that was the deal?) Negates the SCOTUS argument.

  179. HillaryforTexas,

    I completely agree. She also vetoed a discrimination bill against gays by Alaska Supreme court.

  180. dedfg – there’s still a chance in 2008 if BO gets indicted, I suppose. Hillary in 2012, then.

  181. If she becomes majority leader than she cannot run in 2012. If that is the case then no to majority leader.

  182. She said “good old boys network” as a matter of course in a major first appearance on the national scene and demonstrated the courage to pull it off. I just can’t get over that. This is women’s progress. Tell me if I am exaggerating.

  183. Norma agreed. Abortion rights are important. The problem is Democrats think they can wave a red flag and the bulls will charge.

    Our 2 points on this issue have been consistent:

    1. We don’t trust Obama on anything, including abortion rights and Supreme Court appointments.

    2. Democrats in the Senate better do what is necessary to protect choice. If they don’t do that, why vote for them? Democrats will control the Senate and we expect them to do their job and protect choice.

  184. Look Norma,

    McCain is not Bush/Cheney!!!

    My aunt and uncle were Republicans in the MLK mode and they fought civil and human rights and was pro-life and believed in the Constitution and “we the people” Healthcare and other reforms

    But they didn’t believe in welfare without work…most AA’s believe this..they just want equal opportunities to be open to them.

    What the Dems did was to take us backwards to the bitterness that lives in the heart and many people of all ethnic groups and manipulated for power and personal ambitions.

    Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Jim Clyburn, Harry Reid and the rest of those LOSERS need to be KICKed to the CURB for what they did.

    Hillary is a LOYAL DEMOCRAT and a active Democratic Senator from New York she gave it 200% of her all…and I love her but after seeing that travesty of a ROLL CALL the fix was in, she was swift boated by her own Party. They took out the knifes and didn’t even what to give her the respect of showing her true delegate count.

    How you run your Campaign and covention tells me how you handle power and how you will Lead.

    NObama NOvember!!!!

  185. I have to work for a while folks, can’t be ALL play after Denver!

    Back later!



  186. From another blog:

    For those members of the DNC who considered a fair accounting of the votes and unnecessary process, this one is for you.

    For those members of the press who out and out eviscerated Hillary Clinton, both for your own amusement and the talking points you worked off of, this one is for you.

    For those supers who left Hillary Clinton to sit by the wayside while you rushed to throw your support for the unqualified candidate, this one is for you.

    For those who had the voice and the opportunity to quell the viciousness of the MSM via their wholesale misogyny and chose to remain silent, this one is for you.

    For the turncoats and Judas’s who betrayed a couple who gave you a start and advance your resumes, this one if for you.

    For those black members of congress who promoted and perpetuated the ra*ce charges against the Clinton’s to be able to justify your support of Obama, this one is for you.

    For the women and members of the PUMA pac who watched as their voices were muted and their votes denied, this one is for you as well.

    For the Clinton’s who found themselves the victims of scurrilous attacks and outright lies, in some small measure this one is for you.

    And for every young woman who has ever been told to “wait your turn”, this one is for you.

  187. admin I just watched the Roy Orbison video, damn you just had to make me cry didn’t you.

    I think what the democratic party really didn’t understand was how they destroyed “hope” for so many women that have lived the struggle of oppresive and sexist attitudes. they destroyed the chance we had at the freedom to be ourselves in whatever capacity (no matter what we wear) without intimidation, discrimination, misogyny and violence.

    I am grateful the republican party noticed this yearning and has addressed it.

    I “hope” too they will recognize that the selection of Palin is only a baby step and that they are willing to work toward a platform that is more inclusive of all the American people.

    Powerful women are not a threat they are the answer.

  188. Carby


    But to just waft away roe and the rights it brings as Marie did in her statement above is knifing ourselves.

    As I said, this is the opportunity to hole ALL to account.

    And to rid the Dem Leadership once and for all of the far left luny fringe like Dean and Pelosi and the Great sOcialist

  189. I’ll be back

    I am a working class Dem 51 with no healthcare…..

    work calls!


    Off to hunt a moose!

  190. VeepStakes:

    So we may yet have “a woman a heartbeat away from the presidency”… it’s just not from the party you’d expect.

    MO’s Dress:

    The dress: agreed, last night’s thing (I could only stand to watch like 3 minutes in the middle, but I saw photos) did look rather “frock-ish”. I’m no fashionista, but my wife’s exposed me to enough Project Runaway that I can have a slightly educated opinion. The pattern isn’t the issue, but like, there was nothing elegant about it.

    Let me guess: “My husband DummyFace doesn’t deserve me to be up here lookin’ fine. This is all he’s gettin’.”

    MO’s Mouth:

    Not, not the metaphorical mouth, about what she says…It’s that weird, pug nosed, jutting out the jaw thing, and with the lips pursed. It’s like she’s ready to fight at the drop of a hat.
    It reminds me of another unlikable fighter type: Edwin Meese, of the Reagan years, always had that same jutting-jaw, let’s-start-fighting face (and attitude).

    It’s not so much that she is physically unattractive, she isn’t; she’s ugly on the inside, and that always seeps out as an aura that mixes with the physical. Indeed, there are many people whose inner beauty outshines whatever imperfections they may have, and it just makes them that more interesting/ exotic/ fascinating. Michelle….is not one of them.

  191. No more using Roe v Wade like it’s a gun pointed at my head in a hostage situation. NO MORE!!!

    If this country even THINKS about overturning Roe v Wade, the women of this country will stage a revolt the likes of which they have NEVER seen!

    The democratic party doesn’t own me. In fact, they don’t even appear to even want me. So you know what…FUCK ‘EM!!!!!

  192. Illinois Underground and kostner,

    Thank you for helping me understand Palin better. I am SOOOO glad that she vetoed a discrimination bill against gays by the Alaska Supreme Court — wait, the Supreme Court? Did you mean the Alaskan legislature, kostner?

  193. Norma Desmond Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    Rights to pricacy, rights to our bodies, rights to no be beaten by our husbands.

    TOO MANY WOMEN HAVE DIED for this right, and to throw that away is INTOLERABLE especially for revenge. We MUST play smarter
    We are smarter!!!

    YES WE CAN vote for McCain/Palin ticket. I respect honesty and I respect a politican who does not pander to me…WE ARE AMERICAN and we have a diverse country.

    THE DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has LOST ALL CREDIBILITY and TRUST with me and I think with a lot of WOMEN. The Democrats is not the end all or be all of good ideas.

    The DEMOCRATS choose to jump off the clift and commit suicide with them ARROGANCE HEART by selecting KING Obama to tell us lowly peons what is best for us and turned their backs on our concerns.

  194. Wow
    I was absolutely sick to my stomach hearing Arkansas give all of its delegates or at least the majority to waffles and then to watch Senator Clinton stop the roll call. I was angry. I had planned on voting for McCain anyhow and this makes it sooo much easier.
    The bots questionning a woman voting simply on the basis of gender. Hmmm? Isn’t that what a lot of AA’s did in the primary and they were not during the campaign victimized by racial attacks.

  195. If the DNC has any sense, they will toss out all the Pelosis and Deans and Brazilles after their HUMILIATING loss, and start working HARD behind the scenes to SET UP 2012 as a run for Hillary. They will praise the Clinton years to high heaven evry chance they get for 4 years. The will make Hill the superstar of the party in preparation for her run.

    If they have a brain left in their heads, that is what they will do.

  196. THe DNC when they announced the veep, that also said Hillary would NOT be in the cabinet, so they wanted us to know that they did not want Hillary anywhere near the cabinet and did not need us either, McCain is reaching out to us and I for one will be accepting.

  197. # admin Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Norma agreed. Abortion rights are important. The problem is Democrats think they can wave a red flag and the bulls will charge.

    1. We don’t trust Obama on anything, including abortion rights and Supreme Court appointments.

    2. Democrats in the Senate better do what is necessary to protect choice. If they don’t do that, why vote for them? Democrats will control the Senate and we expect them to do their job and protect choice.

    Admin, you nailed it!

  198. mariaconz ,

    do some google search, I’m not so sure whether it’s legislature or supreme court.

    But she is definitely not that sort of wild-eyed wingnut. Yes, she’s pro life, and a social conservative, but she’s more interested in reform/economy etc.

  199. Idunn Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    No more using Roe v Wade like it’s a gun pointed at my head in a hostage situation. NO MORE!!!

    I thought Hill & Bill gave great speeches, while in “hostage situations”. It’s up to the viewer to decipher for possible meanings. They said what they had to, given that the gun was pointed at them by the DNC/Obama captors offstage.

    “I feel their pain” (bitin’ my lower lip).

  200. Been tied up with yard work and plumbers today. Just rewound the DVR and caught her speech. Wow.

    McCain chose a MILF and 👿 chose a gaffe.

    In one fell swoop, Palin just ripped the change mantle from :evil” ‘s cold, dead hands. Wow.

    And then the fumbled press release attacking experience and employing ageism? Put a fork in it. This turkey is done.

  201. YES WE CAN vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin!!!

    It will be a pleasure to vote for a Republican for President for the first time in my life.

  202. Kostner- she will play well in middle America demographics. Self-made, does what’s right regardless of party line, hot, obviously likes sex with her hubby (5 kids!), she rough and tumble and smart in a scary gut you kind of way that isn’t elitist or disapproving.

  203. This is another anniversary also

    In 1968, Repubs went for an outsider w/ little experience: Gov of Maryland Spiro Agnew.
    Dems picked safe, experienced Sen Muskie (good man, btw.

    In 1988, Repubs went for an outsider w/ little exp: Dan Quayle.
    Dems picked safe, experienced sen Lloyd Bentsen.

    In 2008 Repubs went for an outsider w/little exper.:
    Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska
    Dems picked safe, experienced Sen Joe Biden,

    The Republicans won the first two. History is now on their side.

    I love the fact that Sarah is bipartisan in a way most Repubs never are — except for McCain. Looks like he means that. Looks like he means reform too. And we have an energy expert.

    Advice to Sarah: Learn how a woman can use a mike. It’s not the same as a man and you can take the harsh sound out of it. Hillary did brilliantly. Ask her how.

    Nice to know that this opposer of gay marriage also gave gays their civil rights in Alaska (I heard). Put that up against the homophobic concert tour.

    She also seemed not have sought any of this. Put that up against the schemer since kindergarten.

    And, her husband IS a hunk. He also seems quite happy in the bg, taking care of the kids and being a fisherman/oil worker. Very cool. He’s also a union member. Put that up against “mad Michelle”.

    She backs up McC’s argument to stop the out of control spending. And energy independence.

    We’ll have to give up a strong pro-choice woman — and gun control — but we’ll still get a lot without having to bow to the messiah.

  204. Henry, I hadn’t thought about the hoops thing, but I bet she could take Mr. Fancy Pants on the hardwood. (teehee I just wrote hardwood in referring to 👿 )

  205. The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today! I will support this McCain/Palin ticket wholeheartedly and know I’m doing it for Hillary and every woman out there who’s been mistreated and demonized unfairly. Bty, I am a 35 year old male, not a female. I just feel the way Hillary, who happened to be the most qualified democratic candidate, was treated by that idiot and the DNC was unforgivable. There is no way he gets by vote…that backstabbing, racist, sexist pig James Clyburn can go screw himself!!!!!!

  206. Reactions on other blogs:

    sm77, on August 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm Said:
    She’s a basketball athlete & coach.
    She likes to hunt.
    She likes to fish.
    She has a 90% rating in Alaska.
    She was mayor of her town before becoming governor.
    She KICKED AZZ in the elction.
    Not pro-abortion but says abortion is a personal CHOICE.
    Stood up to corrupt big-buck spenders in her own party.
    Tough as nails and loving mom

    This FEMINIST LIBERAL is very impressed.

  207. Bowyer: How Palin Will Help McCain

    It’s a big day for John McCain. It’s a big day for Sarah Palin. And it’s a big day for CNBC and Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s Kudlow & Company. The vast majority of mainstream media hovered like flies around Tim Romnlenty (or is it Mitt Pawmney?). This is about the biggest case of received-wisdom-wrong-again in my memory. A small number of big-time media outlets were talking about Palin, and probably none of them was further out ahead on this one than Kudlow. Guys, take a victory lap. I may take one myself.

    Now, what does it mean. It means that drill, drill, drill gets stronger. Sarah knows this stuff inside and out. She can back McCain in the defense of drilling, transporting and refining oil. She puts ANWR back on the map. Who knows it better than the governor of Alaska?

    The delegates may have been unified last night, but the party isn’t. Women feel dissed, and why shouldn’t they? They went majority for Hillary. She lost largely because the party threw out the Michigan and Florida votes (until Obama was a foregone conclusion).

    Forget this nonsense about how women are natural parts of the democratic party because it supports ‘equal pay’ for ‘comparable’ work. Women have become the emerging center of American entrepreneurship. They start business at twice the rate of men. I should know, I’m married to a brilliant lady entrepreneur (for whom I work). They know about capital gains taxes, and s-corporations. They sweat the details of payroll withholding taxes. They won’t be easy to fool into believing that a hike in the top tax bracket won’t really be a tax hike on entrepreneurs. (For more economic discussion, see video).

  208. H4T, I’m way impressed. Kudos to Idunn.

    BTW is it me or does she look a bit like Tina Fey? If she can tell a joke, 👿 should just bow our now.

    I so loved her recognizing Gerry and Hillary and the suffrage anniversary.

  209. sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today! I will support this McCain/Palin ticket wholeheartedly and know I’m doing it for Hillary and every woman out there who’s been mistreated and demonized unfairly. Bty, I am a 35 year old male, not a female. I just feel the way Hillary, who happened to be the most qualified democratic candidate, was treated by that idiot and the DNC was unforgivable. There is no way he gets by vote…that backstabbing, racist, sexist pig James Clyburn can go screw himself!!!!!!
    NOW, EMILY LIST and the rest of those WEAK AZZ women groups better STEP UP!!!

  210. McCain just won the presidency, when historians write this story in future, the 2008 election was won on August 29, 2008!!!

    A brilliant, bold move. The Democrats are losers. If not for the Clintons they would not have had a 2-time president in 40 years, and even then out of 11 elections, Democrats have won only 3, bunch of losers, I am so MAD. I am so happy with the Palin pick, she even spoke respectfully of Hillary and Ferraro.

    Obama is toast. Now I know the reason for McCain’s Ad yesterday when he congratulated Obama. McC is a chess master… CHECK.

    McCain / Palin 2008
    Hillary 2012 !!! PERIOD.

    Hillary warned them, we did also, the Pelosi/Dean/Brazile think they are strategist (not), what a bunch of morons. Today is a bitter sweet day for me, McCain is going to be our next president, I wanted it so badly for my Hillary. But guess what, I can wait 4 more years.

    XOXO Ever. Too dangerous for America. He is an egomaniac, I am glad he had his moment in the spotlight yesterday at the Rose garden replica, he will never live in the white house. I own my vote.

    Country before race, before gender. Hillary is the better choice, DNC killed all our dreams in 2008. We will pay them back in 2008, and help Hillary win in 2012.

    PS: This Obama guy would have had a chance at winning if he chose Hillary, but he blew it. Afterall he is Obamamessiah ask MSNBC and CNN, they will confirm it LOL.

  211. As for the clueless DNC and their Supastar Preznet Shiznit-in-waiting, I suspect at this point they do not know whether “to scratch their watch or wind their butt” (Steel Magnolias).

  212. Donna Brazile can eat sh*t now that she’s told us to stay home. HAHA. This is making me get off my ass and vote McCain/Palin.

    The Democrats are the party of women-hating idiots. Oh, and ageists.

  213. I DO think that this is a blow to Hillary’s chances. If Obama wins, they’ll say that Palin lost it for McC.
    If McC wins, Sarah will have a huge advantage.

    There’s a female Obama clod on TV SLAMMING Sarah because “she’s not ready and can’t get ready in 60 days blah blah blah”.

    Once again, Obama logic prevails. “It is DANGEROUS to have a VP with little experience.” It is OK however to have a pres with much less.

    My advice to Obamans: Never ever say the word ‘experience’ again. Ever. It is not your strong point. Remember “it’s judgment not experience that counts”? Look who you picked. Look at her judgment.

    What frosts you is that you can’t link her to Bush and she is now “change we can REALLY believe in”.

  214. sotonightthatimightsee Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party.
    * * * * * * * * * *
    Evidently, the Democratic? party is being run by the Children of the Corn.

    Carby, agreed. I repeat my post from above: next steps – strongly worded letters to NOW and Emily’s List. We will not tolerate sexist language about ANY woman. (Even MEchelle, who wholeheartedly participated.)

  215. If Palin were a guy, I’d feel good about this choice, too. It’s not that she shares my gender, it’s she independent in the way most Americans are.

    My former party has fucked itself in the ass. It has shown itself to be petty, small-minded and driven by ego-centrist males. Donna Brazile included (did you see that jacket last night???). That funeral last night was an embarrassment. A waste of money for the glorification of one man and it was eerie how much it looked like Nazi Germany.

    I want my country back, if I can’t get it through Hillary in ’08, I won’t mind a couple of babysitters until 2012. At least with McCain and Palin I know they would be good caretakers and wouldn’t sell us down the river.

  216. sotonightthatimightsee Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    The Obama cultists and Media pinheads are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today!
    If they keep doing this, the Obama party is going to cause the Democratic party to lose women for good – even the porn stars.

  217. CountTheVotes Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
    Donna Brazile can eat sh*t now that she’s told us to stay home. HAHA. This is making me get off my ass and vote McCain/Palin.

    The Democrats are the party of women-hating idiots. Oh, and ageists.


    Ditto. Brazile can eat sh**, and so can the rest of the DNC “leadership.” The have taken a democratic year, and given it away to the Republicans, because of their jealousy, spitefulness, and corruption. Yes, McCain/Palin is a conservative ticket, but a democratic congress will help to temper the most conservative issues. I have always been against drilling, but the energy crisis is real, and McCain is interested in alternative energy, as well as drilling.

  218. H4T:

    “Supastar Preznet Shiznit-in-waiting” is priceless!

    Now let’s pray that Gustav stays away long enough to let us hear the grown-ups talk.

  219. I am so happy about this. I feel 100% comfortable voting for McCain/Palin. Awesome choice by John McCain. Very intelligent and strategic. I think if they try and say this takes inexperience off the table, Sarah should just say, well can I talk about hope and unity and change like your inexperienced candidate for PRESIDENT not VP?

    Great news. This makes my day, along with my new job and going home for a visit, this has been an awesome day. This definitely puts Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, and so many other states that were close into McCain’s corner for sure 🙂

  220. # henry Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    and homophobic when it is politically expedient

    Yup. Let me rephrase. the Democratic party is the party of misogynists, ageists and homophobes – politically expedient or not, these are their true colors now.

  221. obama is and always has been dismissive of women, just look at his political history to see that. From his election to the IL senate having Alice thrown off the ballot and the way he treated Hillary during the debates shows he has a problem with women, maybe he blames his mother for daddy dearest heading for the hills.

    I can see Obama/Biden making the same mistake that the Dukakis/Benson ticket did, laughing at the selection of Quayle thinking they had it in the bag and getting their asses kicked in November.

  222. So lets see waffles starte out in Iowa with 99 problems but apparently Senator Clinton was not one of them, so how many do you think he has now.

  223. I’ve always liked McCain – I remember telling my rabidly Republican mother four and eight years ago that I would consider voting for a Rep if it was, for example, John McCain. McCain is no Bush.

    I’m as passionate about fiscal restraint and reform issues as I am about education and civil rights. (I’m actually a woman without party.) Anyway, it will be fun to watch the Dem congress suck it up while McCain gets a few things done that we like and takes authentic ownership of the good government stuff.

  224. Inexperience:

    Obama and surrogates ripping at Palin’s “inexperience”. Granted, she’s young, and does not have McCain-like nor Biden-like “seasoning”.

    a) Her number of years experience is almost as much as Obama’s (in the Big Leagues), but she’s the veep. Obama’ s the lightweight running for the top spot.

    b) Do we have to sit them down and slowly explain that Governor is a bigger better job than Senator? It’s an “executive” position. Her two years as guv give her more executive experience than Obama’s and Biden’s years combined. Heh, heh.

    Come to think of, after Obama loses, look for him to start an exploratory committee to run for Gov. of Illinois, so that he could try again in 4 or 8 years. We’ll be waiting for him then, too.



    you are being little irritating today.

    My agenda – as it hs always been from day 1 – national security and economy.

    Hillary had both.
    John McCain hs nat. security
    Obama – none.

    There you have it.

    Biden has more experience than BO; McCain has more than Palin.

    I would vote BIDEN/bo over McCain/Palin.

    BUT I WILL NOT VOTE BO/biden over McCain/Palin.
    Simple and easy.

    The party agenda you are pushing for is irrelevalnt for me; The only thing I needed was courage; john showed it today.

  226. Sarah Palin’s Introduced
    29 Aug 2008 12:46 pm

    She is a very effective stump speaker, spunky and upbeat, and her first try at a persuasive argument on John McCain’s behalf succeeded. She looks and sounds very different than he does. That’s a plus. On the other hand, she talked about change, not experience. And we live, as John McCain reminds us, in a time of war.

  227. Dems: McCain’s Age Is “Fair Game”
    29 Aug 2008 02:11 pm

    I get the sense that John McCain’ age is now fair game for Democrats. Democrats feel that McCain’s Palin pick has given them the green light to use phrases like “a heartbeat away” in their press releases and reactions.

    McCain’s proximity to death and her proximity to him justify the attention that will be drawn to McCain’s age, in this view.

    Watch the number of press releases that mention McCain’s birthday and/or contain “heartbeat”-type phrases in them.

  228. rgb44hrc: perhaps if you talk really S-L-O-W-L-Y they might get the fact that inexperience is not a good argument for them.

    Ugh. BO better not run for governor. Anyway, he’ll join a long list of Dem machine pols who are exploring ahead of him: Bill Daley (yes, I know), Lisa Madigan, God knows who else. IL state government is so messed up right now, it’s hard to know what might happen. IL went undivided Blue because their Combine leader went to jail, the rest of the party was taken over by the right-wingnuts, so they have have no sane electable people in the pipeline. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is the primordial ooze from which BO has emerged.

  229. Palin is too conservative for me. Another freeper, Thatcher-like woman I spoke about a few days ago.

    What was wrong with Romney? He was at least moderate on social issues which would encourage people like me to vote for the old man.

  230. # OkieAtty Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Kostner- she will play well in middle America demographics. Self-made, does what’s right regardless of party line, hot, obviously likes sex with her hubby (5 kids!), she rough and tumble and smart in a scary gut you kind of way that isn’t elitist or disapproving.

    Have you seen the hubby? 🙂

  231. With Halloween so close to the GE maybe I’ll put up a tombstone
    RIP Democratic Party next to my McCain/Palin sign with likenesses of Brazille/Kerry?kennedy and Pelosi. Do you think that wouild be to scary for the kids?

  232. how can you guys be happy with this selection? she’s a freeper. wanted to take polar bears off endangered list. pro-corporate, pro-drilling; probably denies global warming.

    This election is just getting worse and worse.

  233. Get the popcorn, guys – this is going to be fun!

    McCain camp pushes back: More qualified than ObamaMcCain aide Jill Hazelbaker:

    It is pretty audacious for the Obama campaign to say that Governor Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. She has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for president.

  234. kostner

    I get the sense that John McCain’ age is now fair game for Democrats. Democrats feel that McCain’s Palin pick has given them the green light to use phrases like “a heartbeat away”

    I have to respectfully disagree with your comment. If the crazy left-wing nuts who support Obafraud and the thugs over at the DNC want to throw age around, then Biden is only 7 years younger than McCain- so I don’t think that’s gonna fly! If they wanna talk about Palin being too young and inexperience, then they’re gonna have to explain how they can support someone with the same characteristics as in the case of Obambi. You see, they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. McCain must have anticipated this and made his move accordingly. John McCan has managed to outsmartand outmaneuver the entire Washington and political establishment…I LOVE IT!

  235. Barbara Boxer on Sarah Palin: A harsh attack
    LA Times ^ | 8/29/08 | Barbara Boxer

    Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 2:58:50 PM by DallasBiff

    The vice president is a heartbeat away from becoming president, so to choose someone with not one hour’s worth of experience on national issues is a dangerous choice.

    If John McCain thought that choosing Sarah Palin would attract Hillary Clinton voters, he is badly mistaken.

    The only similarity between her and Hillary Clinton is that they are both women. On the issues, they could not be further apart.

    Sen. McCain had so many other options if he wanted to put a woman on his ticket, such as Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe -– they would have been an appropriate choice compared to this dangerous choice.

    In addition, Sarah Palin is under investigation by the Alaska state legislature, which makes this more incomprehensible

  236. For Halloween I think I will put up a fake tombstone with
    RIP the democratic party surrounded by the likeness of brazille/kerry/Pelosi- maybe too scary for the kids?

  237. debbie, god no. but I still have the right to criticize the GOP, McCain, and that idiot Palin.

    I will never and can never be a Republican. I’m only voting for McCain b/c I want to leave the door open for Hillary. Trust me, I’m setting aside many of my hardcore political beliefs for HRC. It’s not making a very happy camper.

  238. filbert, GOP women are not monolithic, any more than Dem women are. Palin has some issues I disagree with, but she has done a LOT to combat corruption and the “good old boys club” of her own party.

    Is she Hillary? Not by a mile. Not by a MILLION miles. But I am happy with this on 3 levels

    1) It’s a woman (yes, it MATTERS to me, and I will not apologize for that

    2) She is not part of the good ol Bush machine – she is a TOTAL outsider. That is a strong signal that McCain is returning to his maverick roots of 2000 and before, and trying to pull his party away from the powerbrokers of the last 8 years. That is not as good as a true Democrat, but it is still a GOOD thing for him to do.

    3) She is a very smart pick for McCain, which means Bambi is going down. And that is the BIG one for me. HILLARY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

  239. Brilliant push-back by the McCain camp, to point out Palin’s track record as governor vs Obama’s track record as Senator. Palin wins by a mile

  240. I respect that, but don’t share your view of GOP women. My hats off to many of them as they have fought hard to break their own glass ceiling in the republican party.

    As far as Palin being an idiot? Compare her to BHO then tell me who the real idiot is.

  241. Norma Desmond Says:
    And here is another thought. If McCain wins, there is a chance that Palin and HRC could be BOTH running in 2012, and THAT would be a FABULOUS THING for the advancement of American Women and women around the world.

    Well done McCain.

    Oooh, right, you and admin looking at 2012! Was it Evita who said “I will return, and I will be millions”?

  242. Its hilarious Bambi and Michelle must have wrecked the tv when they heard the news, he completely wiped out bambi’s convention.

  243. Obama campaign is already flummoxed by the Palin announcement:

    Palin tough target for Obama to hit
    By: Lisa Lerer and Tim Grieve
    August 29, 2008 03:22 PM EST

    John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate presents the Obama-Biden campaign with an unwelcome and unexpected challenge: How do you go after a 44-year-old mother of five without once alienating the female voters you’ve just spent the last week trying to win back?

    The answer so far: Not very well.

    Minutes after the McCain campaign confirmed that Palin would be the Republican’s VP pick, Obama spokesman Bill Burton dismissed the Alasaka governor as a lightweight.

    McCain, he said, had put “the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.”

    Almost immediately, the campaign seemed to reconsider its tough-guy approach.

    In a statement distributed by the campaign, Barack Obama and Joe Biden said Palin’s selection was “yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward, Gov. Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign.”

    By contrast, EMILY’s List president Ellen Malcolm tried to walk a fine line — making the point that, because a candidate is a woman, it doesn’t necessarily follow that the candidate represents women’s views.

    “McCain clearly sees the power of women voters in this election but has just as clearly failed to support any of the issues that they care about,” Malcolm said in a statement. “His choice for vice president only reinforces that failure.”

    Throughout the Democratic primary, the Obama campaign and its supporters faced charges of sexism from Clinton’s campaign and some of her supporters. After an early Democratic debate, a Clinton adviser complained to The Washington Post that it was “six guys against her.” The campaign itself complained that the “politics of hope” and been replaced by the “politics of pile-on.”

    Many of Clinton’s supporters continue to believe that sexism played a large role in her defeat.

    For her part, Palin made an explicit play for Clinton’s supporters at a rally in Dayton on Friday.

    “It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest hardest class ceiling in America,” she said. “But it turns out that the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.”

    Then again, Palin hasn’t always viewed Clinton so kindly. At a 2007 forum, she said in response to a question about Clinton’s treatment in the press, “Any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism. … I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good, women in politics, women in general, wanting to progress this country.”

  244. # henry Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    So lets see waffles starte out in Iowa with 99 problems but apparently Senator Clinton was not one of them, so how many do you think he has now.

    18 million?

  245. The bots are infesting the blogs with wails of concern for us poor wimmins being taken in by McCain picking a woman. They are saying that the Dem party is the one who just loooooooves women, and how can we not see that? Nevrmind that they have stomped on women for months. Never mind that Obama thinks we should have our heads examined before getting an abortion, to make sure it’s not just because we are feeling blue.

    ROTFLMAO!!! I am SO laughing my ass of that now, NOW, FINALLY the Obots are suddenly so very concerned about womens issues. They are dripping sincerity. Just dripping in it.

    And they have the audacity to couple their newfound concern for women with telling us that McCain picking Palin is just a cynical political ploy….

    Like I can’t recognize that their sudden love of wimmins is THEIR cynical political ploy.

    Oh, sweet irony, I am going to piss my old biddy pants….

  246. May I politely point out that Gov Palin has probably spent more time talking to Russians than BO has…Alaska is in constant communication with their “close neighbors” re fishing rights, weather emergencies (they rescue each other’s fishermen and women) and shipping/restocking/refueling stops at each other’s ports.

    Both Burton and Boxer would be wise to do some more homework before shooting off their mouths. Course that goes for all politicians (and people in general) who react to fear without being prepared.

  247. The Obama campaign just ordered a massive amount of Immodium. Hmmm…

    Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.

    Folks, the Obama campaign is DESPERATE! They are already going negative! LOL! WTF, Obama! You are old news!

    Yes but Bambi she made a success of that town, yours froze to death in tenements run by your felon friend Rezko, right back at ya.

  248. Emily’s List will not support Palin b/c I think they only support pro-choice women. Palin might as well be a man.

  249. “Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.”


    when you’re already alienating rural swing-state voters in droves, this is NOT the thing to say, lol!

  250. The videos of Palin out with the troops in Iraq are helping enormously.

    See Bambi, you visit troops not go for a spa.

  251. Team Obama’s Good-Cop, Bad-Cop Routine:

    As usual, Waffles doesn’t get caught saying the nasty undercutting stuff.

    Good Cop: “The campaign”, on Waffles’ behalf, puts out:

    “We send our congratulations to Gov. Palin and her family…blah blah nicey nice crapola air-kiss”.

    Bad Cop: According to AP:

    Earlier, Obama spokesman Bill Burton blasted the choice and highlighted Palin’s lack of foreign policy experience. “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency”.

    Hmmm, compound sentence leads to lack of clarity. Did the town of 9,000 people lack foreign policy experience?

    So her lack of foreign policy experience as Veep is certain Doom.
    Barky’s lack of foreign policy experience as Prez doesn’t matter???????

    Oh, I forgot, he lived in many places, and was born in many countries.

  252. I just read somewhere that as the media and the Obama campaign tries to smear and demean Palin, all the republicans come out and defend her.

    Maybe that is what they should have done, instead of cheating her out of her nomination. Let me be clear Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and that means more Americans wanted her than they did him, so in my book she was the winner.

    The DNC will be punished from top to bottom for this theft of the nomination. I hope that Hillary tells them to shove it where the sun does not shine if they want her to campaign for him!!

    If you ever become weak, just watch her as she is pushed down the aisle to essentially give the fraud the nomination. I would not be surprised if they did not have Chelsea in a room with a gun pointed at her! WE CAN NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!

    Was it Evita that said ” I will be back and this time we will be in the millions”, be very afraid Coward!!

  253. Palin is a perfect choice because she cannot be attacked. If the Obama campaign tries to attack her for lack of experience, then all of a sudden, “experience” becomes a big issue in the campaign. The Obama campaign is so idiotic that they don’t even realize this yet, lol

  254. Lets face it, who would we rather watch,

    1 Palin and that gorgeous husband
    2 Huckabee and his frumpy wife.
    3 Romney and his wife

    I suddenly just got fired up for this election now.

  255. If she weren’t a good pick, they would not be falling all over themselves to go on the attack.

    They are scared McCain just picked off a considerable amount of the women’s vote- in fact, I think he has.

    Let’s go further. Kos- you still here??? Let’s talk swing states in the Midwest where she’ll play really, really well and 👿 was already struggling…


    I’d even toss in TX and FL as the last results in TX were within 10. Palin will play very well with women there and rural men and will cancel out the AA vote from Houston and Dallas. Net result- TX firmly McCain.

    FL? I’d agree with it there, too. FL I see McCain by 5-7 points in November.

  256. Berkeley Vox,

    BHO camp cannot attack her on experience, cannot attack her on sexism, cannot attack on her outsider.

  257. I am in TX. TX just went McCain by a mile. We LOVE strong gun-toting hunting fishing women in TX. 🙂

  258. You guys remember how Al Gore was instrumental with environmental policies? Palin has close ties with oil giants, wonder how that will play out?

    am I the only one who has reservations about Palin or is it a consensus here that she’s a good choice?

  259. The more I read, the more I think, god, Obama reallly IS toast. There’s just no way. None of the electoral math adds up for him.

    Time for all of us to clear everything off our calendars for 2011/12!

  260. Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    “Obama campaign just released a statement saying Obama’s district when he was an Illinois Senator had a larger population than the small town in Alaska that Sarah Palin was Mayor of.”

    Hmmm, let’s compare

    being Mayor of 9,000 people, again, executive experience
    a much more populous area where he did nothing (voting “present”?) except ready himself to run for higher office.

    And as soon as he won his seat as Senatore, he did not, except ready himself to run for higher office.

    No Thanks. NObama.

  261. Palin Selection Surprised Her Staff, Too
    By Michael D. Shear
    Reporters weren’t the only ones surprised by Sen. John McCain’s choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

    Her press secretary was just as clueless.

    Bill McAllster, a veteran political reporter who recently became her spokesman, said his home phone in Alaska starting ringing long before dawn after reporters gave up on his Blackberry, which he had turned off.

    “I found out at about 5:20 this morning. I thought maybe they got it wrong,” he said. “But as the messages piled up it looked like it was more serious.”

    McAllister said Palin had given some documents to GOP convention officials since she was scheduled to speak at the RNC. But he said he had no idea there was any serious conversations between his boss and McCain.

    Palin first met McCain in March, McAllister said, when she was in Washington and requested a meeting with McCain about oil drilling in Alaska. McAllister said Palin later talked to McCain for five minutes by phone last Sunday, while she was at the Alaska state fair.

    “She made no mention of the vice presidency at the time,” McAllister said.

    McAllister called Palin “the most phenomenal figure” he has ever seen. He explained that she is “the most ordinary and extraordinary” person. As an example, he said that when a local news director for a television station retired, she drove herself and her two-month-old baby to the barbecue going away party with no security team.

    “She just showed up,” he said. “She has a real common touch. At the same time … she is made of steel when she has to be tough.”

    He said Palin stood up to the oil industry in her state, campaigning in 2006 for a take it or leave it approach to negotiations with oil companies, something that those companies fiercely opposed.

  262. Fil, of course she has ties with oil, she’s the governor of fricken Alaska. However, she has a good enviro record, and raised taxes on the oil companies. i think it’s the absolute best choice for McCain. He’s a republican, not a democrat. Further, Biden has huge ties with the credit card companies, which frankly are making working americans nothing more than indentured servents.

  263. Filbert, I don’t agree with her politics, and I don’t think she’s experienced enough to make a good President if she had to step in suddenly, but she is a reformer and wants to modernize the GOP, as McCain does.

    From a purely tactical standpoint, it’s a great pick by McCain. It was a tactical pick. Obama’s pick wasn’t nearly as tactical — he just likes Biden and thinks he’d make a good President if need be, and by the way, he’s got some foreign policy experience and makes a good attack dog.

    It will be interesting to see of Palin adopts the usual VP stance, which is to be the lead attacker against the opponent’s Presidential candidate. My hunch is that she’ll be tough, but they won’t use her in that way. The attacks against Obama will come from surrogates and the underground, not McCain nor Palin.

  264. Filbert, do what you want to do. I’ve said it a million times and I damn well mean it:

    Hillary in Denver or McCain in November.

    This choice just got a lot easier. And for those who bring up Roe, fuck them. In the ass. If women and women’s issues meant so damn much to the Dem party they wouldn’t have gang raped Hillary for the last 19 months.

    Women and their issues don’t mean shit to Dems and probably even less to many in the GOP, but there are those in the GOP who are traditional conservatives to whom right wing social conservatism means squat. I think Palin is part of that. Even though she is personally pro-life, I’ve read elsewhere that she believes government should stay out of it- the very essence of the traditional conservative view. I can live with that until 2012. I’ve been patient this damn long.

  265. filbertsf,

    I respect your opinion. But for me, as a man, I always admire woman politician with gutsy, intelligence, toughness. That’s the first criteria I want in a president.

    I admire Thatcher, and I wound’t support Hillary if I believe she’s just a typical Nancy Pelosi type feminist with no inner toughness. I doubt I will support any of the current democratic women candidates. Most of them are just not tough enough to be commnder in chief.

    Sarah Palin is in the same mold of Hillary, character wise… This is the first thing I’d consider …

  266. Let me explain something about why I hold Obama and the DNC to a higher standard than the Republicans when it comes to womens issues:

    See, it’s sort of like when a dog continually lifts his leg and pisses on the corner of the couch, I get upset. But if my boyfriend does it, I get MUCH more upset. I am frankly disgusted and revulsed when he pisses all over my couch.
    If it continues happening, then given the choice, I might just keep the dog if there are no real alternatives. But the boyfriend is GONE.

    GONE, baby.

  267. OkieAtty, I’m no wobbler when it comes to Hillary 2012. I know what I have to do and that is that.

    It’s just 4 years is a long time to have to look at McCain/Palin. Ugh.

    I’m just thinking out loud.

  268. Agreed moononpluto. Palin’s Alaska/wild west frontier biography will clinch Montana and Wyoming and Alaska, and all those smaller red states that Obama keeps insisting he can win. And it helps McCain a lot in New Mexico and Nevada, two swing states that are must-wins for Obama.

  269. # filbertsf Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Emily’s List will not support Palin b/c I think they only support pro-choice women. Palin might as well be a man.

    I don’t recall Emily’s List being very effective or vocal on Hillary’s behalf. If I am wrong, please inform me.
    I recall NARAL totally selling out (well, headquarters in DC did, without informing the state-based entities.
    Might someone know how much NOW was for Hillary?

    I just remember there being a strange hollow sound coming from women’s groups during the primary, like there was some secret deal to support Obama, and the savior would make it worth their while.

    Yet while the leadership of those groups were acting strange, it was the feet on the ground types who worked hard and were extremely vocal in defending Hillary.

  270. Palin Facts–Her nickname as a member of Wasilla’s high school basketball team was “Sarah Barracuda;” she is known to be deeply competitive.

    –She was born in Idaho.

    –She and her husband own a float plane.

    –Her father taught elementary school.

    –She and her father often went rabbit and moose hunting.

    –She enjoys mooseburgers.

    –She is very athletic (she hunts, fishes, snowmobiles, and runs marathons). As she has said, “I had a great upbringing under Title IX. I can’t imagine where I’d be without the opportunities provided to me in sports. Sports taught me that gender isn’t an issue; in fact, when people talk about me being the first female governor, I’m a little absent from that discussion, because I’ve never thought of gender as an issue. In sports, you learn self-discipline, healthy competition, to be gracious in victory and defeat, and the importance of being part of a team and understanding what part you play on that team. You all work together to reach a goal.”

    –She placed third in the women’s 40-49 age group in the 2006 Running with the Bulls 5-K race in Palmer. Of her result, she said, “I was so embarrassed when they posted my time because I knew I was going to get a ribbing from a lot of people.

    –She is very adept at juggling work and family. When daughter Piper was born during her Wasilla mayoralty, she returned to the office the following day. A trim runner, she did not announce news of her most recent pregnancy (with Trig, born April 18) until her seventh month. According to Palin, “To any critics who say a woman can’t think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I’d just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.” Her older children are Track, Bristol, and Willow.

    –She and husband Todd couple celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary on August 29, the day her veep selection was announced.

  271. HRC might actually have given McCain a run for his money here in TN. With Obama at the top of the ticket, and not even trying to make a play for TN…it’s solidly red no matter what McCain does.

  272. Filbert, one reason I want McCain to win now that the farce that was Denver is over is because I want the DNC leadership upended. I want Howie gone, burned in effigy. I want Brazile exiled to Pluto or some cold as shit planet with no hope to ever return (well not unless Hillary and I both get a personal stock of Kryptonite or something).

    If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.

    Sometimes you have to burn the field before you can get a good harvest.

  273. I had a feeling for a long time that if a woman was going to be elected VP or Pres, it was going to be a republican one first, if they had the balls to pick one, strong and confident. When i saw the way Hillary was treated, i knew the Dems were not capable.

    It seems the Dems lost their way on this but my god have times changed. McCain just dragged the republicans into the 21st century, it will do them good, they needed this.

  274. filbertsf Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    OkieAtty, I’m no wobbler when it comes to Hillary 2012. I know what I have to do and that is that. It’s just 4 years is a long time to have to look at McCain/Palin. Ugh.

    It will feel a lot longer if BO-biden wins.
    And who will stand up to Russia?

  275. I’d elect her just for that quote

    “To any critics who say a woman can’t think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I’d just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.”

    What a woman

  276. A few years ago, I saw HRC interview with all of the Dem women leaders at the time. At the end of it, they discussed quickly about women and specifically HRC running for President. I felt that the women in that group would not support HRC.

    I saw few if any of that group support her in 2008. The women’s group did not support her in 2008. What we saw were these groups being in some cases jealous, and playing the game with the boys.

    They lost. If women don’t stick together, they will not get anywhere.

    However, I have see people on this site, and other organizations stand up for HRC, and it is those that I salute today.

    We helped put the cracks in the ceiling, and it is our rebellion that has placed Gov Sara Palin in a history making position.

  277. Okie’s right. If Obama wins, Pelosi Dean Brazile etc. will be in charge forever, for their eternal wisdom in picking Obama over Hillary.

    Hillary will be forced to eat celery in a closet (old Doonesbury joke).

  278. lets get past this idea that she is not ready to step into the shoes of John McCain should something happen

    should she need to, as every President has they select people around them that are experts

    BHO is weak on national security too he..selected Biden to shore up that weakness…are you guys saying she’s too stupid to do the same…not likely, she is savy she is an executive, I believe she has the smarts to handle the job if need be.

    as for her pro life position, “if” the dems maintain control of congress AND THEY DO THEIR JOB don’t expect them to allow any judge get passed them that would overturn Roe v Wade once again IF THEY DO THEIR JOB. Of course there is Biden that voted to approve Clarence Thomas…don’t forget that one!

  279. NMF, we were just there for the ride. Hillary did it. I am sorry she won’t be there this year, but she will be in 2012.

  280. Its weird, its almost as if the republican ticket is acting like the Dem ticket and the Dem ticket is acting like the republican one.

    How weird and fucked up is that

  281. Too bad we don’t have a spy in the O camp right now. I would love to be a fly on the wall.

    I am also waiting for the next poll.

  282. Ok Guys heres the mantra to hit trolls with

    Palin started her political career in a small town, Obama from the house of a domestic terrorist. Whats that again? I can’t hear you.

  283. One thing I’m sure of…Republicans won’t let Sarah get trashed the way Democrats let Hillary get trashed.

    You can COUNT on that.

  284. Moon, I thought that, too, while watching Palin’s speech. I think it’s bc she’s a reform minded moderate and that appeals to many of us traditional Dems.

  285. moononpluto ,

    I agree with you 100%. The first woman president may well come from the Republican party. I think the reason is simple, democratic party is always deemed as weak on defense, weak on everything… I doubt voters will elect a woman from the democratic party to the prediency unless they’re absolutely sure that woman is TOUGHER than men.

    Hillary is tougher than men, unfortunately, democratic party is too weak to select a tough woman to anchor their fate. .

  286. I’d pay to see Michelle Obama’s face about now.

    I can her scowling “not another bitch to deal with” Her face must be tripping her, the swear level must be high.

  287. We helped put the cracks in the ceiling, and it is our rebellion that has placed Gov Sara Palin in a history making position.

    NMF, it is our rebellion and DNC’s shameful stupidity and the SDs cowardice.

  288. As of 2 p.m. today, Gustav has changed in two ways: 1 it will go over more land when it hits Cuba, and 2 is now shifted a little more back to the east, which mean closer to New Orleans, with the north east wall of the hurricane hitting it. This is the strongest side of the hurricane.

    O has already said he will party while American’s are in danger.

    This is playing out almost like someone higher than us is directing it.

  289. rgb44hrc, Emily’s List was very supportive of Hillary. You can’t take that away from them. She probably won NH b/c of their hard work and lobbying.

    mj, you were in NH, am I right?

  290. Has anyone heard Obama’s speech mentioned today, all i’ve heard in pins dropping.

    No one can remember anything he said now, i asked some people and they said, “i’ve forgotten, but this Palin woman looks cool”.

  291. Yes, NH. Emily’s List was Hill’s biggest bundler, but they got played by McCaskill. They bankrolled her campaign and then she had the audacity to say she did it all by herself, no help.

  292. # moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Its hilarious Bambi and Michelle must have wrecked the tv when they heard the news, he completely wiped out bambi’s convention.
    I agree!!!!

    admin, you are amazing. Don’t stop!

  293. I can’t wait to see Monday morning’s daily tracking polls, after the population has absorbed the Dem convention and the Palin announcement. I don’t think Bambi will have much of a lead!

  294. birdgal & others

    iirc, on that most painful Saturday, Hillary said “because of YOU, there are 18 million cracks in ….”

    She did not say, “because of ME……”

    btw, the Friday evening BBC is all over The Palin choice, her demeanor, he words, and the fabulous reception of her….

    The Brits may come to like us, once again.

  295. Jack Caverty needs to just come on out with it, he hates women. He needs to get his clock cleaned by women!

  296. I was just talking to a friend:

    One of McCain’s strategies will be blunt the force of the Clintons coming out to campaign for the Fraud and the Republicans know that that will be critical…

    So, if Palin is VP pick, and if Hillary’s on the trail for BO, people will ask WHY ISN’T HILLARY VP? they will say to themselves, the Fraud can’t even put her in his Cabinet even when she’s got more Presidential credential than him, but he will force her to win the election for him and iron his shirt in the meantime?!!

    I think that was another strategic move by McCain that was brilliant with this choice.

  297. What Naral, Now, and Emily’s list forgot was you support women and women’s issues.

    They were hood winked, bribed, or bullied into thinking that O would do that, although there is no proof. Women have got to learn to play better in the big world. YOU BELIEVE NOTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING, AND YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT ENDORSE A MAN OVER A WOMEN WHO HAS GONE TO CHINA AND SAID HUMAN RIGHTS ARE WOMEN’S WRITE.

    These groups truly need to learn how to stand up for women (they absolutely did not do this). This is like a POW camp. You never give up your soul, unless you know where your soul is going.

  298. Showtime in Dayton [Jay Nordlinger]

    For those of you who missed Palin’s speech today, you may find it here. And some quick points — rather, pointlets:

    She is leaderly. That’s not quite a word, but I have employed it often. (It ought to be a word.) Governor Palin is strong, assured, natural — and leaderly. I’m not sure she is less presidential — to say nothing of vice-presidential — than any of the other three on the national tickets.

    Like many Americans, she says “Eye-rack” and “Eye-ran” (for two neighboring countries in the Middle East). Some people mock this, but it is very American. And — speaking of mockery — she also says “nuke-u-lar”: like George W. Bush, Jimmy Carter (who was a nuclear engineer), and Eisenhower.

    When she said she was “commander of Alaska’s National Guard,” I somehow sat up straighter!

    Just about all my e-mailers have said that McCain hit a home run today, and that his election prospects are helped immeasurably. From their mouths to You-Know-Who’s ear. Some also say that, for the first time, they’re planning to give to McCain — or have even done so already.

    When playing veepstakes over the last few months, I have balked at Sarah Palin (for reasons stated earlier in the day). (And those reasons have to do with electoral politics, not substance.) I would be delighted to be proved wrong. And, even on Day One — before any (real) stumping, before any debating, before much hurly-burly — she has inspired confidence in me.

    FWIW, as we say in e-mail-ese.

    P.S. I still think the “highest, hardest glass ceiling” bit is gross. But for political/polemical/rhetorical purposes — one of course understands.

  299. Obama Reax to Palin [Andy McCarthy]

    The more I think about it, the more stupid that graceless statement by the Obama camp seems. McCain went out of his way last night to congratulate Obama and salute the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. Obama, Mr. Post-Partisanship, concluding a week during which his surrogates very publicly thugged it up to try to suppress critics, had a chance to reciprocate and show a little class. Instead, he issues a boorish dig — which looks even worse now that Palin has made a fabulous first impression, complete with a tip of the hat to Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton.

    I also loved the “U – S – A” cheers in Dayton. Spontaneous patriotism is a nice contrast after four days of hearing how much the country sucks.

  300. Sarah has just brought the entire republican party back into the collective fold. I’m 100% sure of that.

    Bambi just lost all the reagan democrats, the crossover women, the repubs hacked off with McCain and a shitload of women. The independents will cross over in masses.

    I have to say, Bambi’s coalition just got a nuke dropped on it.

  301. kostner, I understand your feelings, but I have been in meetings where I was the subject matter expert, and the powers that be, turn to a male engineer and took their advise rather than mine.

  302. Palin and Last Night

    St. Paul
    Republicans gathering early here in St. Paul are ecstatic about the Palin pick and-–not surprisingly–less than blown away by the Obama speech in Denver last night. I talked to some experienced Republican operatives this morning and they shared thoughts on both topics.

    First, on Obama last night, a senior GOP communications consultant said this:

    “One of the first rules of communication is ‘Don’t reinforce a negative stereotype.’ For Obama, that stereotype is ‘I’m more of a rock star and a celebrity than a person with the experience necessary to be commander-in-chief.’ I would have given a more sober, serious speech in a less-hyped setting. I think it was over the top from a visual perspective, and I’m not sure your average guy in Ohio shares the enthusiasm that was in the stadium.”

    A GOP operative working at the convention in St. Paul said this: “I guess we now know the kind of ‘change’ he has in mind. He wants to bring about a bunch of liberal, redistributive policies. I don’t think that’s the type of change people want.”

    Finally, an experienced GOP campaign veteran I talked to worried about younger voter reaction to the speech. “I can see how young people might buy into this whole thing. The hype, the music, the enthusiasm–it’s like nothing they’ve every seen in politics before. The problem is it’s the same old product with just a new salesman. I worry that young voters don’t get that.”

    Participants here are still digesting the Palin pick, but early reactions are glowing. Here’s a sampling of immediate reactions from folks here in the Xcel Center:

    “It’s a great pick. The team will have broad generational appeal.”

    “I’m glad it’s not a Washington insider.”

    “I can’t wait to see her debate Joe Biden.”

    The selection should also sit well with delegates who worried Senator McCain might pick a pro-choice candidate or even a Democrat. Bottom line: The Palin pick is generating a lot of initial enthusiasm in the convention hall right now–passion the McCain camp hopes will build into next week.

  303. Breaking News from Hillary,
    Congrats to Sarah Palin and John McCain. She did not attack Sarah Palin. IT was a very good statement!

  304. I’m loving Lindsay Gramham right now..when he answered Wolfe question about Palin ready to be President. He said ” if she handle Stevens, she can handle Putin.”


  305. There’s also that thing about feeling good about electing a first of anything, Bambi isnt unique any more.

    We are either getting the first AA president or first woman vice president.

    There will some people who will vote Obama just to see an AA president but equally now, they will be not sure, because they can also elect the first woman. He’s no longer unique and Bambi will hate that.

  306. NewMexicoFan ,

    This is the sort of bias and discrimination against women that only TOUGH women themselves will be able to erase.

    That’s why I’m absolutely furious the democratic party leadership rejected a tough intelligent woman to help shatter the eventual bias and discrimination against women.

    They always prefer stupid loonies such as Pelosi/McCaisile etc.

  307. ABM90 .



    Right! This is something all Dems could agree on. Will Bower is working on it at FAcebook.

    h t t p : / /
    The DNC may have undermined 18,000,000 voters…
    …but we can do our best to make sure that the DSCC and the Senate
    don’t do the same.
    Let those Senatorial candidates up for election in November know that,
    if they want our votes, that they will pledge to elect Hillary Clinton
    our next Senate Majority Leader.
    Like LBJ in the late 1950s, Hillary Clinton can lead this country from
    that seat of power… and we 18,000,000 will have our voices better
    served and respected.

    Imo this is a great idea! It gives HIllary power, it shows Pelosi
    and Reid they can’t bully her. Also seeing which candidates will sign
    the pledge, shows us which downticket Dems to vote for in November!

  308. How Palin Came to the Top of the List
    Share August 29, 2008 3:08 PM

    ABC’s Jan Crawford Greenburg reports: It wasn’t until Sunday night that John McCain, after meeting with his four top advisers, finally decided he could not tap independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to be his running mate. One adviser, tasked with taking the temperature of the conservative base, had strongly made the case to McCain that it would be a disaster for the party and that the base would revolt. McCain concluded he could not go that route.

    The next day, McCain studied the three men at the top of his shortlist: Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge. All had different strengths and negatives, but McCain was not satisfied. None of them had what McCain believed he needed to do — and would have done — with Lieberman.

    McCain wanted to shake up the ticket.

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s name was in the mix as an unconventional choice for months, but she had not been considered a front-runner. So, over the next few days, with McCain continuing to believe he needed someone who had more of a maverick streak than his other choices, lawyers reviewed her vetting information. They kept their activities from even some in McCain’s most senior inner circle.

    Pawlenty had been the youthful pick advisers believed would represent a fresh direction — and one they could use to argue the Republican VP pick was more experienced than the Democratic presidential nominee. But Pawlenty’s flaw — what cost him the VP — was that he would not have stirred things up. He was safe, and McCain was not inclined to take the safe route.

    The campaign secretly flew Palin into Dayton last night. She and McCain met privately for a couple of hours. McCain concluded she would “shake up the system” and was “a maverick,” qualities he believed Lieberman would have brought to the ticket. But she also would appeal to conservatives — which Lieberman most certainly would not have done.

    After their meeting, McCain concluded he was comfortable with his choice. He notified Pawlenty this morning that he was going in a different direction

  309. I’m baaaaaack and i’s still smiling! 😀

    Berkeley, I agree that HRC is probably lhao at this and I also think she’s a big enough
    person to realize the huge boost women all over the world got with JM’s choice transcends
    any regret she has over her own situation. I see HRC as a very secure person who is at peace with herself, her life, her choices and her beliefs.
    About roe v wade; While it’s a landmark bill and crucial for women’s rights the advances and availability
    of birth control methods over the past 20 years has, imho, made the issue a little less urgent.

  310. John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he’s a man who knows how to make a bold decision. Barack Obama chose Joe Biden because Michelle told him not to choose Hillary. Thank you, Michelle!!!!!

  311. Strong video by what appears to be a Republican or right-wing group called “John McCain and Sarah Palin Visit the Troops”. Good song too.

  312. obama is blowing it again-doesnt call her guv, says shes froma sm ton, ahs no experience. like mccains folks said today-um he hasnt held a cmte hearing. palin has governed. brilliant play. now experience questions are more open for obama. game changer.

  313. dedfg Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Hillary for BOTH! Maj Leader now — President 2012!

    Maj Leader gives her more power against Pelosi, Reid, etc. Reid has power because he is Maj Leader. If Hillary is Maj Leader, they can’t threaten her, she can threaten them! That would give her much more power if there is another nomination fight in 2012.

  314. Poolosi may have to sit beside another woman anyway, she sure tried hard to make sure she was the only one up there. Now is will have to sit beside a younger, prettier one. LMAO!!

    Why don’t I see Donna out and about??

  315. Women react to McCain’s choice for vice president

    November will be an historic election no matter which party takes the White House. John McCain chose Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. McCain announced his surprising decision this morning. Analysts said McCain’s pick is an effort to grab the attention of some of Hillary Clinton supporters.

    Sarah Palin is 44-years-old and calls herself an anti-abortion feminist. She’s pro-oil drilling and against gay marriage. The mother of five became Alaska’s youngest governor back in 2006.

    McCain made the announcement during a rally in Dayton Ohio Friday just three days before the GOP convention.

    “She’s not from these parts and she’s not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you’re gonna be as impressed as I am,” Senator McCain said.

    Governor Sarah Palin said, “It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out women of America aren’t finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.”

    Palin is the first female vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party, but she’s the second in history. Back in 1984 Democrat Geraldine Ferraro became the first female vice-president candidate to be elected by a major party. But will the McCain-Palin ticket by enough come November.

    News 10NBC talked with some voters about the impact this pick has on our future.

    “Pleased that a woman is at the top of the ticket,” Jan Miller said. “What a great role model for our daughters and granddaughters.”

    Jan Miller has had a close eye on the elections. She was a Hillary Clinton supporter. We sat with her Tuesday night as she watched Clinton’s speech at the democratic National Convention. She said she hasn’t made up her mind yet, but she’s glad another woman is making history.

    “She seems to be an intelligent self confident woman and it’s been almost 25 years since picked Ferraro, so I’m thrilled he picked a woman,” Miller said.

    Sarah Palin is only the second woman ever to be nominated for vice president. Nancy Kleintop is the president of the League of Women Voters. She said this is a symbolic move for U.S. politics and women.

    “There’s a real opportunity for women to be motivated to vote, to vote for those things that are really their priority in terms of lives,” Kleintop said.

    County Executive Maggie Brooks said Palin represents the views of middle-Americans, especially busy working moms. She said with Hillary Clinton not on a ticket this could sway her Democratic supporters to the Republican Party.

    “Let’s face it, the Democrats didn’t even consider Hillary the most powerful political woman in the country as a vice president possibility, so I think Hillary supporters have a place to go in the Republican party supporting a woman as vice president,” Brooks said.

  316. I’ve heard there is major discontent amongst the Democrats tonight, they never saw this coming, they expected McCain to go with “safe” romney or Pawlenty, they had nothing on Sarah Palin, he threw them for a loop.

    Now they have a major crisis and don’t know what to do.

  317. I have no problem voting for JM and MS Palin.I regret the fact that Hillary is not in the race but she still has an outside chance
    if all Hell breaks loose when his baggage spills out into the public
    news domain.BO and MO must never be allowed into our White House that they would desecrate as they paint it black.Folks I think we have a crisis facing this country tatamount to the rise of
    Adolph Hitler in Germany and his counterpart in Italy,Benito Mussolini.They both came to their demise by angry citizens.
    Adolph died by gunshots and a fiery death while Benito was hung in a public square.I am not suggesting that we apply these
    measures to them.Our votes didn;t work so just expose his devious plans to be our American Dictator that would impose hiphop and rap as our new language and anthem.He who constantly boasts of his love for his country has something else in mind other than hope and change.Pardon my comment ” He
    has more BS than a Christmas Turkey”.While I am at it I might as
    well express my disgust in watching the big kiss that he planted
    on Mrs Bidens lips.She seemed in a daze in her reaction to
    having liver lips feasting on her.Obama lips are for husband
    cheeks are for everyone else.My wife would have given him the
    knee treatment then demanded an HIV clearance certificate.
    Ah what a team from the DNC as our only choice.Biden and OBama the second coming of AMOS and ANDY.Who were they?
    Do some research on the radio favorites in the 20’s and early
    30’s They were very popular.In the mean time it is Hillary time for Majority leader and the her hard earned right to thePresidency
    in 2012 if not sooner than we might think.

    By ABM90 Enjoy your holiday weekend all and think of Bush Cheney Gas Prices imposed by the REPUGS.HAppy Motoring.

  318. “Let’s face it, the Democrats didn’t even consider Hillary the most powerful political woman in the country as a vice president possibility, so I think Hillary supporters have a place to go in the Republican party supporting a woman as vice president,” Brooks said.

    One think though is the republicans need to be very careful in not trashing Hillary.

  319. Obama “Blames the Staff” again:

    At a stop in Monaca, Pa., Barack Obama seemed to distance himself from his campaign’s first, harshly critical response to the Palin pick.

    “I think that, uh, you know campaigns start getting these uh, hair triggers and, uh, the statement that Joe and I put out reflects our sentiments,” he said, according to the pool report, apparently criticizing his staff for going overboard, as he did occasionally in the primary.

  320. kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Just about all my e-mailers have said that McCain hit a home run today, and that his election prospects are helped immeasurably. Some also say that, for the first time, they’re planning to give to McCain — or have even done so already.

    I “celebrated” Obama’s speech…by donating to McCain. My wife and I have said for since Obama stole the nomination in early June that McCain was one of the few Republicans we could get behind, and that we would donate. Kept talking about it, and finally, at 10:00pm just before Waffles started pouring on the syrup, we both made our first donations.

    Now that Obama has forgone public financing, setting himself back 84 cool ones in the hole, he obviously needs to outraise McCain. Most recent months, BO continues to haul in 50ish mil, McCain 20ish, then 27. So since June, he’s outraised McCain by about 50. But he’s 84 mil back. And he’s tapping out his reserves, and good will, by over soliciting. Plus those that gave might feel that he’s sold out, that the guy they donated to in January turned into Mr. Hyde in June, completely changing his positions on almost every topic.

    And if they think the big time Hillary bundlers are going to come to the rescue, it’s already well known that the answer is:

    No Money. NObama.

  321. Kostner, when you look at people like Kerry, Kennedy and Obama- all giant egos- do you really think any of them would be okay with playing second fiddle to anyone let alone a woman?

    None of them are strong enough to play second to anyone and if that anyone is a woman- it’d be worse for them ego wise.

    McCain really is a maverick in his choices. This wouldn’t have even been possible in 2000 let alone without Hillary’s candidacy this cycle.

    Hillary is still at the top of my list.

  322. CNN’s John Roberts, after briefly alluding to the issue of Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s experience he called into question earlier on Friday’s “Newsroom” program, asked correspondent Dana Bash about how the Alaska governor’s newborn son with Down’s syndrome might be affected if she were elected: “There’s also this issue that on April 18th, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome…. Children with Down’s syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?”

    Bash deftly answered this question, which has the implication that Palin could neglect her infant son, and made a possible counter-argument the McCain camp would use, that a question like Roberts’ would be sexist: “That’s a very good question, and I guess — my guess is that, perhaps, the line inside the McCain campaign would be, if it were a man being picked who also had a baby, but — you know, four months ago with Down’s Syndrome, would you ask the same question?”

    The CNN correspondent continued by briefly describing the Palin’s family situation and the thinking that may have gone into the situation for both McCain and Palin herself. She concluded by reporting on the Alaska governor’s appeal to social conservatives because she is “very staunchly anti-abortion,” in Bash’s words.

    The full transcript of the exchange between John Roberts and Dana Bash, which began 7 minutes into the 11 am Eastern hour of CNN’s “Newsroom” [audio available here]:

  323. also-the sexism msm s doing plays agian for mccain. it rouses the feelings of hill supporters about how she was treated. women rallied for hillay in nh bc of this. we will relive how hillary was treated in some ways. and it will cause more women to vote mccain. my folks like her bc she is froma family of teachers. she and hubby are union. they arent well educated-they are working folks. she will help in wa, ore, maine and the west. also pa. and palin fights like hell. msm thinks she ill be real sweet. but she will bite when needed.

  324. Hillary statement:

    We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain. While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.

  325. I didn’t know anything about Sarah Palin nor even heard of her until lately. Interesting to see how this election pans out. I just hope it don’t become another Geraldine F. election. Don’t get me wrong, I like Geraldine for her bold statements she made during the primaries.

    But you know there are people who will vote against a woman.

    I have no real opinion about her yet. I’ll have to see more of her. But it doesn’t really matter anyone since I was going for McCain. Just don’t know if she will be an asset or a liability for McCain. Looking forward to getting to know her though!

  326. As we wrote, the Republicans are now 100% united and not in a fake DNC way. Even right-wing nut job of nut jobs Dobson is now on board with McCain (and Dobson really hates McCain):

    Earlier this year Dr. Jim Dobson, President of Focus on the Family made news when he announced on “The Dennis Prager Show” that he “cannot and will not vote for Senator John McCain.” Today, on The Dennis Prager Show, the conservative leader changed course and announced his enthusiastic support on the heels of the announcement by Senator McCain of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate.

    Dennis Prager: I have a guest here who’s extremely significant in American life, whether you call it American political, certainly American religious life, one of the best known Christians in America— Dr. James Dobson who is president and founder of Focus on the Family…. The last time you were on was a very serious conversation about your feeling at the time that you just couldn’t vote for John McCain, and where do you stand now?

    Dr. James Dobson: Well, Dennis, I shared with a colleague just a few minutes ago exactly what you said about the period of time when Ronald Reagan had broken onto the scene and I was in Washington D.C. the day he was inaugurated. That was one of the most exciting days of my life, because everything that we had hoped for and been working for had come to pass. I feel very much that way today. Maybe that’s an overstatement. Maybe time won’t validate it, but this is a very exciting and encouraging day for conservatives and pro-family activists. I am just very, very pleased.

    Prager: In light of that, may I infer that when you enter the voting booth—and I am putting you on the spot. I fully acknowledge, and you’re certainly free to say it’s a secret ballot you don’t want to say, but you’re too public to really get away with that, so what’s the story right now?

    Dobson: Well, you know I did a radio program about a month ago with Dr. Albert Mohler, and we talked about what was at stake in this election and our concerns about the policies that Barack Obama would implement. The more I hear the more I learn, the more concerned I am, and so on that program Dr. Mohler and I talked about the fact that John McCain is not the perfect candidate. He’s certainly would not be my choice and, for over a year, I did not feel that I could vote for him. But I said in that radio program that “I can’t say it now”—which was then, because I didn’t know who his vice presidential choice would be, and he if would come up with Lieberman or Tom Ridge or somebody like that, we’d be back in a hole again. But I said for the first time “I might, I might.” And some people call that a flip-flop. If they do, so be it. Campaigns are long. You get information. You find out what the choices are. So I’ve been moving in John McCain’s direction. I don’t know if anybody cares, but for me…

    Prager: Plenty, plenty of people care and that’s why I am having you on. I care, many people care and you have a lot of followers. You have earned the right to that respect. So are you prepared to say, “Folks, look, given this pick and all I have learned about what would happen with a Democratic victory we have no choice, but to enthusiastically work for the McCain-Palin ticket?”

    Dobson: You know, I have only endorsed one presidential candidate in my life and that was George Bush in the second term after I had watched him for four years. I did not do that in his first term. So I’m very reluctant to do that. You marry a politician you can be a widow pretty quickly.

    Prager: That’s right.

    Dobson: But I can tell you that if I had to go into the studio, I mean the voting booth today, I would pull that lever.

  327. independent2008,

    obviously, it’s a risk choice. But the fundamental difference between Palin and Geraldine is that GOP is deemed as strong, tough whether it’s right or wrong. A GOP woman candidate will have a natural advantage over a Dem woman candidate in terms of being perceived to be tough, which is really the top quality of a president.

  328. Yep, classy and disciplined, as always. Contrast that to the huge freak-out and rabid attacks, instantly lobbied by the Obama camp this morning.

  329. Some get it and agree with us on what happened today:

    I have to admit some significant disagreement with how most Democrats (including the Obama campaign) are reacting to the choice of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running-mate. Many are simply deriding Palin as a lightweight or someone obviously unqualifed to be commander-in-chief–another Dan Quayle. Others watched the event in Dayton and found the whole thing laughable.

    To be sure, I’m a poor judge of the visual side of campaign events. But what I saw in Dayton was (1) the “maverick” GOP presidential candidate introducing his “maverick” running mate, even though Palin, even more than McCain, is actually a conservative ideologue whose selection thrilled both cultural and economic factions of the Right; (2) a direct appeal by Palin to HRC supporters to consummate Hillary’s campaign by shattering the splintered “glass ceiling;” (3) a compelling personal story of a woman who (a) has one son with Down’s Syndrome, (b) another who is being deployed to Iraq on September 11; (c) is married to a Native American (at least technically) union worker and athlete; and (d) has bravely defied her party and oil companies in Alaska.

    If I’m wrong and other Democrats are right, then Palin’s obvious and laughable lack of gravitas and preparation for the vice presidency under a 72-year-old president will become apparent soon enough. But if I’m right and others are wrong, then focusing criticism of the choice of Palin on her qualifications could be a very large mistake, particularly in terms of women who might otherwise have little reason to support her, but who are sensitive to gender-based double standards. Credentials aside, Palin is very vulnerable because, like McCain, he’s mainly “above party” because she dissents from Republican orthodoxy in Alaska from the Right. Both cultural and economic wingnuts love her passionately. And as I said in my last post, she crucially reinforces McCain’s phony “maverick” image with her own phony maverick image.

    Ignoring all that in favor of mocking her for what many Democrats are privately calling her “obvious” lack of credentials for the White House is a big and unnecessary gamble, and quite possibly a trap. We should all take pains to avoid it.

  330. I have raised two women Athletes, and I can tell you they are competitive. They have used this skill in there work place, and it has served them well.

    They use to call Gov Palin Sara Barracuda, that must tell you something.

  331. I made this list of my reasons for “living with McCain for 4 yrs” over BO on in late may/june.
    I did not post it anywhere because I wanted the DEM convention over. I did send it to some of my freinds. I am happy about point 12 today!!!!! I also donated $250 dollars today to his campaign….more than I thought I would but I feel I am doing something right here. I did thios by aug 31st so he can get max matching campaign dollars

    1. Iraq Issue – has/had 2 sons in Iraq fighting; made personal sacrifice.> – no president is a ruler for 100yrs…if he does something stupid, congress would be even more stupider than they are now> – congress can stop it by stopping full funding – PERIOD!> – also McCain voted against Bush tax cuts in 2003 saying that at time of war, tax cuts are not needed
    2. Supports stem cell research
    3. supports full immigration plan…fair and balanced; he wrote the initial legislation; he withstood against his own party’s wrath during the summer of 2007.
    4. A respectable CIC; a know quantity. He will defend the country
    5. Fiscal conservative – I happen to like it! Who cares about the others right now.> > 6. Judges/SC…well senate better do their work in approval process; ginsberg and others can stay 4 more yrs…they are not that too old.
    7. Abortion…hmm not bothered..worst case it will become a state issue vs. federal issue. we have many moderate pro chocie repubs – like Arnie, Crist, Snows, collins, specter etc
    8. AZ gov will have to appoint a DEM senator to replace him! whoopie we have 1 additional DEM senator that way to work with Hillary!
    9. Reasonable tax plans…i like them
    10. health plan…will give credits ; fine for now…the other plans will take a long time and money to implement the senate can start with little steps…children, automate records etc
    11. will work with senators and congress as he has always done
    12. Please choose a smart VP….. i think he will
    13. Strong on national security; I trust him over BO anyday over America’s national security!
    14. Not good on economic issuse like clinton but he can and will take advice and listen
    15. age…no probelm.; he will be less of a burden for future tax payers money when he retires. how great to know that the stupid baby boomers and the spoilt youngs ones in this country are forced to respect an ELDER for a CHANGE. TIME FOR RESPECT… no age discominatiuon here… IT TAKES A VILLAGE!!!! AND EVERY VILLAGE NEEDS AN ELDER!!!!!
    16. supports campaign finance…remember his campaign days when he was broke! He did it cheaply!! He carried his own bags to a commercial, economy priced air plane and stated at volunteeer’s house. He also did not accept protection from the Secret service until a few weeks ago – saved us tax payer a lot of money. He is looking after MY tax money!
    17. He will listen to advisors but also be able to make an independent judgement.
    18. Cindy McCain has been working for children a long time here and abroad. They adopted a daughter from Bangladesh – a muslim country – from an orphanage run by Mother Teresa. Cindy and John are great HUMANITARIANS!!!!!! they walk the talk!!!!!!!!
    19: He recognises climate change and global waarming and will things to help combat it.
    20: John Kerry in 2004 thought McCain was a good chocie as his VP…so John Kerry endorsed McCain as someone who can govern this country.

  332. Whatever way you look at it, No one NADA is talking about Obama.

    Zilch, nada, zip, end of story.

    McCain did a blinder and basically for all intent and purposes took Obama’s speech, shat on it and tossed it in the bin because right now, everyones forgotten his “historic” speech.

    McCain has ensured the Dem convention went out with a wimper and not a bang, they’ll be talking about this all weekend and then the Repub convention on Monday.

    How furious on a level of 1 to 10 is Obama right now, i’d say about 100 and his ego will spit out something nasty, you can count on it.

    I just have to say Obama, you got taken out to the woodshed and beaten with a rather large 2 x 4.

    Seriously today its, Obama who?

  333. GO HILLARY! Great statement. She has always been talking about the history that even BO was making as an AA candidate. Hillary is consistent…she is not a pandering idiot like BO who only goes where the political winds blow. Hillary is like McCain in this sense. They’re both brave.

    Hillary for Senate Majority Leader!!!!

    Could we actually have a country that functions with bi-partisan leadership on both sides of the aisles? Wow, wow.

  334. Consider the last 24 hours:

    1) McCain delivers a classy, congratulatory message to Obama
    2) Obama gives a ho-hum speech
    3) McCain announces Palin
    4) Obama campaign freaks out, trashes Palin instantly, mocking her small-town background
    5) Hillary releases classy, congratulatory message to McCain and Palin
    6) Obama and Biden, realizing they screwed up, quickly copy Hillary and awkwardly try to congratulate Palin, while simultaneously trashing their own staff

  335. Hillary in 2012.

    I’ll be playing the Beatles song “When I’m 64…” and thinking about Hillary all the way. Cannot wait to the get the Hillary 2012 bumper sticker.

  336. Part 1

    John McCain picks Alaska Gov for Veep
    by Jill Zuckman

    Dayton, OHIO – Sen. John McCain has chosen Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, a tough-talking social conservative with sterling credentials as a reformer, to be his running mate, campaign officials confirmed.

    McCain, who turns 72 today, is expected to announce his choice at a rally in Dayton at noon today at the Ervin J. Nutter Center where about 12,000 people were waiting. After the rally, the pair plans to take the Straight Talk Express campaign bus to Pittsburgh.

    Palin is the first woman governor of Alaska, elected in 2006. She was also the youngest ever elected at the age of 42. She is the mother of five children, the youngest of whom was born in April with Down’s Syndrome. She ran on a clean government platform in ’06, defeating the incumbent Republican Governor Frank Murkowski.

    In a statement, McCain called Palin “a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her administration and has a record of delivering on the change and reform we need in Washington.”

    The statement also said Palin has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy sources. “She leads a state that matters to every one of us – Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent,” he said.

    McCain reportedly considered Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, among others.

    Palin is a social conservative who is strongly opposed to abortion and same sex marriage. In addition, she is pro-gun and wildly popular in Alaska.

    As governor, she has raised taxes on the oil industry, pushed ethics legislation amidst corruption investigation of Alaska lawmakers and limited requests for congressional earmarks after Alaska’s “Bridge to Nowhere” made the state a national laughingstock.

    “We’ve got to make sure the rest of the United States doesn’t believe the only thing going on in Alaska is FBI probes and corruption trials,” Palin told the Associated Press last year.

    In Palin McCain has chosen someone with no experience on the national stage and no foreign policy experience. But she is a reformer, popular with conservatives and is considered tough enough to deal with what may come.

    In the Vice Presidential debate, however, she will go up against Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who has personal relationships with heads of state and other world leaders.

    With voters concerned about McCain’s age and his history of skin cancer, it remains to be seen whether they will be reassured by a woman with little to no experience on the federal stage who is a heartbeat away from the presidency.

  337. Part 2

    Bill Burton, Sen. Barack Obama’s spokesman, derided McCain’s choice.

    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency,” Burton said. “Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies – that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”

    Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) called McCain’s choice “a hail Mary pass.”

    “It is a real role of the dice and shows how John McCain, Karl Rove et al realize what a strong position the Obama-Biden team and Democrats in general are in in this election,” Schumer said. “Certainly the choice of Palin puts to rest any argument about inexperience on the Democratic team and while Palin is a fine person, her lack of experience makes the thought of her assuming the presidency troubling. I particularly look forward to the Biden-Palin debate in Missouri.”

    Rep. Jim Clyburn, the House Democratic Whip, told South Carolina ETV Radio that the pick was “risky” and would prove to be as embarrassing to McCain as Dan Quayle was to former President Bush.

    “I do believe that McCain has to do something to reshuffle the cards, shake up the establishment, do something unexpected and Governor Palin…has all the kinds of things that McCain might see as a way to shake things up,” Clyburn said. “I think it would be something similar to Dan Quayle…Dan Quayle proved to be sort of an embarrassment as a campaigner. Being thrust on a national stage like that could be very tough.”

    Clyburn also compared the choice to Walter Mondale picking Geraldine Ferraro, a member of Congress who became the first woman on a national ticket, which he said was “absolutely awful.”

    “And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left,” Clyburn said.

    But Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saulius Anuzis said he is excited about the pick.

    “She will strengthen Senator McCain’s appeal to Reagan Democrats, and supporters of Senator Hillary Clinton, who are looking for a president who has the experience and temperament to be commander-in-chief,” Anuzis said.
    ******************************************************I’m very disgusted with the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY good ole boys networks…demeaning women is a habit and not Hillary hating…those comments says alot about my party.

    They never took Hillary Clinton campaign seriously!!!

  338. It came home to me very dearly today that family means everything. My 88 year old uncle, the last member alive on my mother’s side, passed away.

    I will just say that I like that Palin has a large family. I like that McCain’s wife cared enough to go to Georgia to see the refuges. I love that Hillary wanted to take care of health care for everyone.

    This is what matters.

  339. Keep talking Democratic Party, and I pormise you, McCain/Palin will win this election without ever having to break a sweat.

  340. Geraldine Ferraro: A salutary tale for Republicans
    The last female vice-presidential candidate was a disastrous campaigner and the Democratic ticket was defeated in a landslide by Ronald Reagan.

    By Alex Spillius in Denver
    Last Updated: 8:31PM BST 29 Aug 2008

    Geraldine Ferraro: ‘There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated’ Photo: GETTY IMAGES One of the most enthusiastic welcomes for Sarah Palin’s elevation came from Geraldine Ferraro, who in 1984 was the first woman vice-presidential nominee, running for the Democrats with Walter Mondale.

    A disgruntled supporter of Senator Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary, Mrs Ferraro wrote on Friday: ‘Without Hillary being the nominee it’s really quite equally as important. There are a lot of women who are disaffected by how Hillary was treated by the media, by how she was treated by the Obama campaign … not speaking up when sexism raised its ugly head in the media.”

    However amid the enthusiasm among Republicans about the boldness shown by Senator John McCain in choosing Mrs Palin as his running mate, Mrs Ferraro provides a salutary tale.

    Her excitable comments, submitted on a Fox News blog, and her claims during the primary that Senator Barack Obama’s popularity was down to his skin colour, showed the ungainliness that marked her campaign 24 years ago.

    The initial bounce Mr Mondale received in the polls after selecting Mrs Ferraro, which Mr McCain is likely to get now, did not last, and the Democrats were defeated in a landslide by Ronald Reagan.

    Mrs Ferraro was viewed as a gamble, especially when her husband John Zaccaro, a wealthy developer, failed to disclose his tax returns and was reported to be renting warehouse space to a pornographic distribution company.

    She received mixed reviews for her vice-presidential debate with George Bush, particularly from Barbara Bush, who when asked what she thought of Mrs Ferraro, responded: “I can’t say it, but it rhymes with rich.”

    Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, recalled her on Friday as “a disaster as a running mate”.

    He told ETV Radio in his home state South Carolina: “As a campaigner, she was absolutely awful. And so I just think that it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”
    I see that mysoginist Clyburn remarks are all around the world. What a pig and to find that Nancy Pelosi supported his #3 position tells me how much RESPECT the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY has for her too and for all WOMEN in this country.

    No wonder NO DEMOCRATIC LEADER stood up and spoke out against SEXISM and MYSOGINY…they all hold that view Clyburn spit out…but I Blame all those WOMEN GROUPS parking themselves in the DEMOCRATIC HOUSE and getting NOTHING back from them only rhetoric.

    Action matters…words are only words if there is no action supporting it.

  341. You know what stood most to me today about Sarah Palin and its something you don’t often see.

    The woman is real, you can tell she means it. She’s totally believable. She looks like one of us and that is the best thing that could have happened.

    No wonder she has 90% approval rates, you can tell you get something done when you ask her.

  342. Wow, toe-sucker is an evil genius!!! Money quotes:”Now Obama, who has spent two years preventing a woman from being president, will spend two months preventing one from becoming vice president – and hopes to do so with women votes.”



    By Dick Morris 08.29.2008

    McCain has reached for the stars and grabbed one. On a recent cruise to Alaska, I had the pleasure of spending an afternoon with Sarah Palin. She is brilliant and articulate and, in Alaska politics, is a breath of fresh air as an alternative to their corruption epitomized by Alaska Republican Senator Ted Stevens. Now Obama, who has spent two years preventing a woman from being president, will spend two months preventing one from becoming vice president – and hopes to do so with women votes. The entire premise of the Democratic convention was the fungibility of Bush and McCain. Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!

  343. Interesting excerpt from WaPo:

    Jill Hazelbaker, a McCain campaign spokeswoman, said in a statement that Palin “has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for president.”

    Howard Wolfson, the former communications director for Clinton, said Palin could peel away some votes from Obama.

    “Both campaigns seemed to have decided that Hillary Clinton’s 18 millions voters represent a key swing bloc in this election — both Barack Obama’s speech and John McCain’s pick were at least partially aimed at them,” Wolfson said in an e-mail.

  344. Sarah Palin Runs A State. Barack Obama Runs His Mouth.
    Maverick and Barracuda Take On The Status Quo

    Posted by: Erick Erickson

    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 03:31PM


    I cannot tell you how excited I am about the Palin pick. McCain lived up to his maverick reputation and did well.

    It is time to pony up to the campaign. Sure, we’re still going to have to put up with some of McCain’s McCainisms. Let’s just get used to it. But, he’s proven he listens to us. Today he puts us on the trajectory toward victory.

    Now let’s deal with some of Obama’s charges. Mr. Hope and Change, who picked a 35+ year veteran of the Senate to cover his own inexperience has the gall to attack Palin for inexperience.

    Were I Palin, I’d first point out that balancing the budget of a working family with five kids gives her more experience than Obama in relating to families out there.

    I’d also point out that, in addition to being elected for five years before Obama was first elected to any office, Palin has been balancing local and state government budgets while Obama was relying on Tony Rezko to balance his budget.

    As for foreign policy experience, Palin’s neighborhood has Russian and Canadians. Barack Obama’s neighborhood has unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.

    I’ll take Palin’s experience. She, by the way, did not run for President on her resume. Obama did.

  345. No Quarter

    BREAKING NEWS: David Axelrod Talking Regularly with Bill Ayers?

    I now have two sources confirming that Barack Obama’s Communications Director, David Axelrod has been communicating regularly with unrepentant terrorist and former member of the Weathermen, Bill Ayers, about how to respond to stories trying to report on Obama’s longstanding relationship with Ayers. One of my sources tells me that one person, a TV pundit who wishes to not be named, is talking about this without mentioning Axelrod. This person told my friend:

    I predict that the howling and whining we hear from the Obama campaign about Billy Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist who bombed the US. Capitol and has been linked to candidate Obama at least for the last dozen years, will get louder, and more hysterical and more damaging because we will find that not only did Billy Ayers work closely with Barack Obama to fund left wing school schemes in the hands of Maoists (Mike Klonsky) and Neo-Stalinists (Bill Ayers) but also Billy Ayers himself, now, regularly, is talking part in strategy sessions with major Obama advisers as to how to bury the truth about the terrorist and the candidate.”

    Another source with direct access to the Obama campaign reports that it is David Axelrod who is fielding these calls. It is astonishing that the Obama team thought they could contain this information. But they will fail. Their fear about Ayers has little to do with his past as a bomber of U.S. Government facilities and more to do with the mismanagement of more than 100 million dollars that was spent by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC)

  346. it could be possible..that the democrats in the House bump Pelosi off her throne if democrats do not gain across the board.

    I’d love nothing more.

  347. If Obama loses, Pelosi is OUT!

    Now all McCain has to do is co-opt a couple of Hill’s policy proposals and game over. We will see if he is up to it.

  348. Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!

    And she proved she is no John Edwards either.



  349. Clyburn’s sexism is disgusting:

    Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) compared Palin’s choice to George H.W. Bush’s choice in 1988 of Dan Quayle, a GOP senator from Indiana, and Walter Mondale’s decision in 1984 to pick Geraldine Ferraro, then a Democratic member of Congress from New York.

    “She proved to be a disaster as a running mate and a campaigner. She was just absolutely awful,” Clyburn told a radio station in his state. “I think it is very risky for McCain to do this, but it may be all he has left.”

  350. God, you should hear the things being said about Sarah. Stuff like, “What, did she suck McCains dick to get the job?” and “She should go back home and be in a swimsuit competition” and “McCain picked a breast feeding woman. Brilliant.”

    You can’t make this shit up folks.

  351. rgb said: b) Do we have to sit them down and slowly explain that Governor is a bigger better job than Senator? It’s an “executive” position. Her two years as guv give her more executive experience than Obama’s and Biden’s years combined. Heh, heh.

    RIGHT! A governor has 3 am experience. So does a mayor. It’s a different kind of thing from Senator (unless you’re Hllary in 9/11.)

  352. carbynew Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!

    And she proved she is no John Edwards either.

    Yeah Sarah Palin knows which kids are hers.

  353. And will NOW stand up for Sarah when she is dismissed and trashed in the media? Or does now care only about women who are democrats?

    In the words of Stephanie Tubbs Jones, “STEP UP!!”

  354. how refreshing is this? A true blue collar Mr. Palin…


    Sarah and Todd Palin eloped in 1988, having dated since high school, and reportedly used two residents of a nearby nursing home as witnesses to their nuptials at the Palmer, Alaska, courthouse. Todd, a Yup’ik Eskimo, works as a production operator for British Petroleum on Alaska’s North Slope. He took an unpaid leave of absence when his wife became governor, but returned to BP’s payroll in 2007 amid whispers of possible conflict of interest. “It’s a blue-collar, in-the-field type job, working in a facility as a production operator, separating the oil, the gas and water. It’s not a management position where decisions are being made,” said Gov. Palin, promising that her husband’s job would not affect her own. The “First Dude,” as he is called, is also a four-time winner of the Tesoro Iron Dog, a 2,000-mile snowmobile race. During the summer he works as a fisherman at the Bristol Bay commercial salmon fishery.

  355. Idunn

    C-Span now

    repeat of this noon’s rally- the only thing you’ll miss is his coming up from the crowd, instead of over them.

  356. Palin and her husband, Todd, have five children. Their three daughters: Bristol, 17, Willow, 14, and Piper, 7. Their two sons: Track, 19, and infant Trig, born in April; the governor carried him to term knowing he had Down Syndrome. Palin describes herself as a “hockey mom” and has a hard-earned reputation as a dedicated working mother. She returned to work just three days after Trig was born and, when she was mayor of Wasilla, she reportedly brought her infant daughter to the office regularly. The baby slept in a carseat under her desk while Palin worked. The Palins’ eldest son, Track, enlisted in the Army on Sept. 11, 2007, and is preparing to deploy to Iraq.

  357. Despite her own brewing ethics scandal — Palin has been accused of abusing her power to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper — she has built her political career, in part, on ethics reform and whistle blowing. As mayor of Wasilla, she cut her own salary, and was appointed ethics commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. She resigned from the post after complaining that her fellow Commissioner, Republican Randy Ruerich, was raising money for the state party from energy companies he was charged with regulating. He later resigned from the commission and paid a record fine for conflict of interest violations. Palin was elected governor after campaigning as a reformer, and shortly after taking office, she passed a sweeping ethics reform bill regulating lobbyist activities and forcing more disclosure from lawmakers. Palin has enjoyed approval ratings in Alaska as high as 90 percent.

  358. Earlier this month, a legislative panel launched a $100,000 investigation to determine whether Palin abused her influence by attempting to get her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper. The panel is currently questioning whether Palin dismissed the state’s safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, Mike Wooten, whose marriage to Palin’s sister ended in a bitter divorce — and custody battle — in 2005. Palin has denied the charges, and says she did not coordinate the reported dozens of telephone calls placed by her husband and administration to Wooten’s bosses. Before Palin ran for governor, she and her husband accused Wooten of drinking alcohol on the job and illegal hunting. Wooten was briefly suspended over the allegations in 2006, but never dismissed.

  359. Huffpo is now praising Hillary, saying “Palin is no Hillary”. I am furious at that.

    There is no way in hell that McCain would have done this if we were “a handful of post-rationals”. It is proof of our power.
    And it disgusts me that the likes of Huffpo is now telling us that Hillary is the greatest thing since Jesus, and how we do her a disservice if we accept second-best as women.

    FUCK. THEM. Here’s my “Don’t tell me” speech for Bambi and the DNC

    DON’T TELL me what my interests are as a woman.

    DON’T TELL ME that you alone will protect my right to choice, then spit on me in every other area of life.

    DON’T TELL ME that the woman you used as your fucking punching bag is now the reason I should refrain from making you pay for punching her.

    DON’T TELL ME what is important to me.

    DON’T TELL ME my vote doesn’t count in August, then get fucking morally outraged at me when you can’t have it in November.

    DON’T TELL ME that identity politics are bad and harmful while you sit on your 90% AA vote.

    DON’T TELL ME that I am too stupid to play strategically for long term gains, and am getting played by the Republicans. I know exactly who and what they are, and can use them for my ends just as well as they can use me.

    DON’T TELL ME what to think, how to vote, or what my motivations are for doing it.

    DON’T TELL ME that the just and righteous rage I feel in my very soul is a hormonal hissy fit that I need to “get over”.

  360. In 2003, the Alaska Court of Appeals legalized the possession of small amounts — four ounces or less — of marijuana in the home, making it the only state in America to allow it. In 2006, then-governor Frank Murkowski outlawed the ruling; the Superior Court, in turn, struck down some of his restrictions (now Alaskans can possess only one ounce). The battle over marijuana became a minor issue during the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial race (which Palin won), with Murkowski claiming he had never smoked pot and Palin admitting that she had tried it. “I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled,” she said at the time.

  361. CNN and PMSNBC are all in the tank for King Obambi so when SEXISM and MYSOGINY rears it ugly head on those networks…it will come back and hurt Obama.

  362. I am soooo happy the republicans are throwing a normal convention without the rock concerts, american idol stages and a Greek theater. They were throwing money around like drunken sailor’s while Americans were having to decide whether to buy groceries or gas. This display does not make me feel like these idiots know how to balance a budget.

  363. Palin was born in Idaho but grew up in Alaska, and her hobbies — moose hunting, ice fishing, hiking — indicate a typical Alaskan upbringing. But it was her performance on the Wasilla High School basketball team that earned her the nickname “Sarah Barracuda”— supposedly because of her fiercely competitive nature. Palin, who played point guard, was the team’s captain her senior year, and scored the final point — a free-throw — of the 1982 state championship game that Wasilla won against Anchorage. Two years later, in 1984, Palin, then 20, entered a local beauty pageant to earn college scholarship money. She was crowned Miss Wasilla — and Miss Congeniality — and went on to compete in the Miss Alaska contest, where she came in second. She graduated from the University of Idaho in 1987 with a degree in journalism, and worked briefly as a TV sportscaster in Anchorage and a commercial fisherman before pursuing a career in politics.

  364. On August 27, Palin signed a bill to give a Canadian company a license and $500 million in government subsidies to build a pipeline connecting natural gas fields in Alaska’s North Slope with existing infrastructure in Canada and to the continental U.S. Alaskans have been pushing for years for construction of the pipeline, which, according to gas companies, could provide 7 percent of all fuel used in the U.S. Major fuel companies operating in the state — including BP and Conoco Phillips — oppose the plan, however, saying they want to build their own line. Construction could begin as early as next year, but the pipeline wouldn’t be completed until at least 2017 and still faces considerable hurdles — including its massive cost, estimated to be at least $30 billion, which could stymie the plan if fuel prices continue to drop. Palin also supports natural gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge — which McCain has opposed — but Palin is not roundly loved by the energy industry. With Democratic support, last fall she raised taxes on oil company profits.

  365. I feel the same way, Hillary for Texas. It’s unbelievably insulting how Obama and the Democratic establishment treat us Hillary supporters. To them, we are nothing but pawns in their little chess game, and they think they can move us around their game boards like little toy soldiers. They never listen to us, they never let us be heard, and it’s got to stop.

  366. The first woman to run on a Republican Presidential ticket (and the second woman, after 1984 Democratic candidate Geraldine Ferraro, to run for Vice President for a major party), John McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin was also the first ever female governor of Alaska — and its youngest when she was sworn in at age 42 in 2006. Born in Idaho, Palin’s family moved her to Alaska as an infant, where she grew up in Wasilla, a small town of fewer than 9,000, located 45 miles north of Anchorage. She first entered politics in 1992, winning a seat on the Wasilla City Council, before going on to become the town’s mayor four years later at age 32. After two terms in office, she earned statewide recognition by pursuing the nomination for lieutenant governor — which she lost by only 2,000 votes. Palin has no national experience and less than two years experience as governor, but she is unabashed about that. “That’s a healthy thing,” she told TIME. “That means my perspective is fresher.”

  367. Kostner, it isnt even a scandal, when you look at it and quite frankly, if someone had tasered my 11 yr old nephew, i’d had bounced his ass also.

  368. Where Nancy, you would think she would come out and say some neutral “Great day for women progress?”

  369. Debbie,

    Thanks for your kind thoughts.

    Palin is no Hillary, but she can reach for it and has made a great start.

  370. Dem Boykin: Palin ‘Affirmative Action’ Pick
    NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

    Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 5:31:38 PM by governsleastgovernsbest

    Of all the criticisms an apparently panicky Dem party has heaped on Sarah Palin in the hours since her selection was announced, Keith Boykin [bio] has come up with perhaps the unseemliest. The former aide to President Clinton has accused Palin of being an “affirmative action” pick.

    Boykin, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard Law, was debating the selection with Republican Joe Watkins at the end of MSNBC’s 4 PM EDT hour. After some preliminary jousting, Boykin dropped his bomb.

    KEITH BOYKIN Let me just say something about this choice. The reason why she doesn’t help, quite frankly, is because it’s an insult. It’s an insult to women. I spoke to several women today at the Democratic National Convention who said it’s insulting John McCain would pick somebody—an affirmative-action candidate basically—who is not qualified.

    View video here

  371. MJ, no video of Dana Bash’s response but here is how she answered:

    “That’s a very good question, and … my guess is that, perhaps, the line inside the McCain campaign would be, ‘If it were a man being picked who also had a baby… four months ago with Down syndrome, would you ask the same question?'”

  372. Just like I thought, Obama and the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY do not respect women and this mysoginy and sexism is being sanctioned by the the DNC and DEMOCRATIC? leadership.

  373. Palin: I “Put Down the BlackBerries and Pick Up the Breast Pump”

    The brand new veep contender explains how she multi-tasks motherhood and the governor’s office to People magazine.

    I “do a couple of things different and still get it all done.”

    Her husband adds: “We’re an Alaska family that adapts.”


    (NEW YORK) — In an exclusive interview, PEOPLE went backstage with the new Republican ticket, Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, and their families to talk about Palin’s readiness for the job, the challenges of juggling a high-powered job with the needs of five children — including an infant with Down Syndrome and a son in the Army about to head off to war in Iraq — and the campaign’s attempt to give Hillary Clinton voters one more chance to shatter the glass ceiling.

    “It’s Girl Power!” enthused Meghan McCain, who learned of her father’s top-secret pick only a few hours before the rest of the nation on Friday morning. “It’s my dream choice,” she told PEOPLE.

    Below is an excerpt from the interview. You can find full story on shortly.

    On appealing to Hillary Clinton supporters: “Certainly in this election cycle, women are not finished yet. And women can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all,” says Gov. Palin.

    Sen. McCain: “I think that Sarah appeals to a lot of voters—I think because of her independence, because of her reform agenda and her record of balancing both family and service, is motivation to not just Clinton voters but to lots of voters.”

    On what some are calling Gov. Palin’s “short” resume, relative youth and readiness to be president, compared with Sen. Barack Obama:
    “I don’t think it’s a short resume. She first ran for office back in 1992. I don’t know what Senator Obama was doing then, but the first time she ran was 1992. That’s 16 years. I think that’s a pretty, pretty event-filled and record-filled resume.
    Interjects Gov. Palin: “I haven’t had too many years other than that to fill up yet.”

    So does she feel ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? “Absolutely. Yup, yup. Especially with a good team around us.”

    On whether she’ll be able to balance the vice-presidency with her family’s needs: “She’s heard that her whole life—the challenges of being a female mother in the work force,” says the governor’s husband, Todd Palin. “I remember the first time she ran for mayor on of her fellow council members told her you can’t run for mayor because you’ve got three negatives: Track, Bristol and Willow. Those are the three kids we had at the time. So, when you tell her that kind of stuff, she just gets fired up. We’re an Alaska family that adapts.”

    Gov. Palin, who is still nursing her son, tells PEOPLE she’s used to multi-tasking: “What I’ve had to do, though, is in the middle of the night, put down the Blackberries and pick up the breast pump. Do a couple of things different and still get it all done.”

    Adds Sen. McCain’s wife, Cindy: “Any woman who’s been in a situation where they’re working and have children know that you give 300 percent; no one will be slighted in any of this, least of all her baby. She has a lot of energy, she’s a woman with great drive and great vision and I think no one’s going to suffer in this process. We will all get it done.”

  375. kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
    I respect your opinion. But for me, as a man, I always admire woman politician with gutsy, intelligence, toughness. That’s the first criteria I want in a president.
    I admire Thatcher, and I wound’t support Hillary if I believe she’s just a typical Nancy Pelosi type feminist with no inner toughness. I doubt I will support any of the current democratic women candidates. Most of them are just not tough enough to be commnder in chief.
    Sarah Palin is in the same mold of Hillary, character wise… This is the first thing I’d consider …

    kostner, I’m glad to hear that from you. I was getting the same vibe just from what little I’ve seen about Palin, which has mostly been comments this morning.

    Dunno about Thatcher, but I’ve never liked the really iron-faced women leaders like Meier and Sebilious…. What I like is Hillary’s bouncyness, sense of fun, competing with the men for the fun of it. Outrageous comments, irony, unexpected truth…. Palin’s speech this morning seemed to have a little of that, and seemed to be looking at solidarity among women of that sort, as just as importnat as their views on issues, or more so.

    It may sound woo-woo, but I think role-modeling that sort of woman may be even more important than electing the other kind of women.

  376. NO WAY, NO HOW and I will never vote for obama.

    HE is big PHONY……I will vote for Mccain..

    HRC 2012

  377. Whatever way you look at it, No one NADA is talking about Obama.

    Zilch, nada, zip, end of story

    a 100 million dollar extravaganza reduced to a forgotten memory and as someone said a couple days ago re dina washington what a diffence a day–and a new headline makes. All that is left of it a wedding cake picture of bambi and scoopjaw in the morning paper. This will undercut bambi’s thunder (an oxymoron–no! I dont mean biden) in the sunday news cycle. The American people dont really care about his bullshit speeches, know that is all the pundits care about because they are in the hot air business too. This gets back to the republican sweet spot and it is values. But the key here will make it go big tent this time. Inclusive–that is the key.

  378. kostner,

    Oh i am LMFAO at the dems directing the ‘affirmative action candidate’ label at Palin!
    They must be scared sh!tless!
    Talk radio is saying if the dems try to trash, destroy, mock and destroy ANOTHER woman candidate they’re toast.
    You Goooooo girl! 😀
    i HOPE you posted that fantastic rant over at huffypoo!

  379. Amazing that the Dems destroyed the one woman who could give them victory only to be destroyed a woman on the Republican team.

  380. Affirmative Action candidate.

    What the fuck is Obama then dumbfucks, do you regularly see a black guy running for President then.

  381. OkieAtty Says:
    one reason I want McCain to win now that the farce that was Denver is over is because I want the DNC leadership upended. I want Howie gone, burned in effigy. I want Brazile exiled to Pluto or some cold as shit planet with no hope to ever return
    If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.

    That’s my impression. To heal the party, which has been nominating losers (or running losing campaigns, eg Brazile 2000) we need to cut out all of the dead diseased wood, the cancer. And my impression is that only a big McGovern-size defeat of their candidate will break up the DNC enough that we can throw out the bad pieces and pick up the good pieces.

    Restoring an honest two-party system seems more important to me than whatever different results over the next 4 years we might get from McC/P vs O/B. And Mc is trying to reform the GOP, so by supporting him we’re improving both parties.

  382. moonpluto,
    What I find tragicly ironic is that it was the repubs who initially demonized HRC in the ’90’s and now it’s they who are benefitting from the copycat dems doing the same thing.
    The repubs get to be in the pious position of scolding BO for smearing the same woman candidate they’ve been trying to destroy for the past 20 years.

    I guess that’s what happens to trailblazers like Hillary but WE WON’T FORGET!!!!!!!
    And to her credit, Palin acknowledged she wouldn’t be where she is without HRC and gerry. That’s a hel-uv-a-lot more than Cruella and Pooplosi ever said.

  383. Well lets see MO try and use the line “if she can’t run her own house” and see Palin nail her boney ass to the target.

  384. thatcher is a brilliant politician and quite funny actually. ive seen many in depth interviews with her on cspan. she has that brit dry wit. she has become a hero to the youth in britian. dont agree with some of the things she did-but if she werent so ill she would let the us have it about hillary i know. thatcher is a big critic of amerian poltics-she says she would never do a american style debate. she says the best ay is to sit and be interviewed on live tv for 2 hours at least one on one. and that is how she ran. thatcher is a leader who always interests me. and she said before that the brits were not nearly as sexist as americans bc brit had several queens etc who rules and were very beloved. maybe those itnerviews are on the cspan site. watch em u wont regret it

  385. You do know what McCain has just handed us with his pick? Not only a CRUSHING defeat of the DNC and Obama, but a defeat at the hands of the WOMEN of this country.

    He has just handed us the opportunity to have CLOUT, and that clout in the future can be put to good use in VERY Democratic ways. If women swing this election in a BIG way this time, I doubt very seriously that EITHER party will be throwing us under the bus again.

    Maybe, in the future, we will be listened to. Maybe, in the future, Hillary or one like her can run, and we will not be escorted to the back of the bus.

  386. yeah,

    It’s quite obvious palin keeps hubby happy in that department.

    Often, when people criticize others it’s because of negative identification with issues in their own lives.
    I’ll bet the bank Scoopjaw has some unresolved housekeeping problems of her own.


  387. I think the Puma’s and Clinton women are moving on mass to McCain and Palin, I’ve just been over to the forums ands it ecstasy over Palin there.

  388. admin…if I screw this up, will you please embed to remind US why we are here, and why we will be here all the way to 2012 and beyond!

  389. fred, on August 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pm Said:
    The Party of Hate and Sexism
    What is, however, most interesting and disturbing about the pick has been the response from some on the left. I spent the day on and off perusing some of the leftie websites seeing how they’d react. The fair criticisms (like experience) are drowned out by the overt rage and misogyny of so-called progressives. Here, you have the party of “tolerance” and “diversity” saying she got the job because of sexual favors for McCain. And that is the most benevolent of some of the comments from known hate sites like the DailyKos (also known for anti-semitism). Go there and read the comments if you don’t believe me.
    Here we get a shocking moment of honesty and transparency from the left. See, they don’t believe a woman can make it on their own without sexual favors. They’ve already put up websites commemorating the “VPILF” (figure it out). Here is what this should tell you about the left and why this election matters:

  390. meir was a neat leader as well.but as pelosi foudn out hen she ran to address the israel knesset-meir aint very popular in israel. the yom kippur badly hurt meir. by not doign a premetive strike the arabs sneak attacked israel. many died. and many still hold her accontable. a commission ruled she was not guilty in the matter-her advisors were. but she was the mother of israel. she got kids out of those dp camps, managed labr and aducation, saved ben gurion’s life in a bomb attack etc.. hell of a woman. note most female leaders come from parlimentry govts. the american way makes it harder for a woman to get elected.

  391. I think Maureen Dowd and Jack Cafferty should date.

    They would have a marvelous time with each other.

  392. In this election, we should ask our candidates, esp. from the house if they support eliminating caucuses, the DNC, and Nancy Pelosi. Vote against ones who can’t see the light.

    If McCain wins, think of what comes next!

    We let it be known that Dems who participated in that DNC committee who stole many of our votes have to be out. Caucuses are out. Sexism is out. Standing on principles (pro-choice e.g.) is in.
    Cooperation when possible is in. Don’t just say no. Start solving problems. Will Boone Pickens plan work? No? You got something better? It’s country before party or we’ll vote you out.

    If we can put the reform ticket in, we the people can get back in charge.

  393. Amazing that the Dems destroyed the one woman who could give them victory only to be destroyed a woman on the Republican team.
    I did not see Hillary last night. I heard she was not feeling well. This was a difficult week for her. The speech was a tour de force. Bills speech said what I am sure she felt needed to be said to heal the party.

    The tough part was the roll call vote, the acute disappointment of her loyal delegates, the death of her dear friend Stephanie, the murder of another good friend who was head of the Arkansas, the betrayals, the absense of leverage short of destroying the party, the insufferable arrogance of bambi, the constant surveillance by big media and all that might have been.

    If she was feeling well right now I would be surprised. It is a good thing that the parade has moved on for the time being. Someone here said this would be a tough week and that was an understatement. God bless her for going though this with such dignity and grace.

    The country needs her more than ever before. I hope in the fulsomeness of time it has the good sense to realize that as much as we here do.

  394. freckles,
    let’s start a TO-GO list.

    1 – Pooplosi
    2 – Deaniac
    3 – Cruella
    4 – Germond
    5 – Alice (whasshername)
    6 – Clyburn
    7 – Wexler
    Oops. running out of box space. please add

  395. I just hate to think the ridicule that the DNC Failed Leadership will rain down on Hillary when Obama tanks. Let’s hope she stays out there and campaigns for BO and lets the Republican machine go after him. There is enough WroNG with Obama, THE Obama’s, that no one needs to do anything but sit and watch.

    Although I am delighted McCain has moved women’s issues forward by picking Palin, I will still wait and see what’s next.

    One this IS CERTAIN THOUGH….I will NOT vote for Obama

  396. Work’s done. I’m back…. but there’s just too much here to process and certainly to comment on. But, thanks everyone for analyzing and aggregating at lightspeed.

    Bravo to the Big Pink knowledge machine! Our path is pretty clear: we must do for the Dem party what John McCain is doing for the Republican party. He’s showing us the way. Restoring common sense and balance, and country before party. We have the power. We must use it wisely.

    Hillary 2012! Vive la resistance! Vive la revolution!

  397. I think Maureen Dowd and Jack Cafferty should date. They would have a marvelous time with each other.
    Yes, and if that happened and nature took its course, there would be no more right to life movement. Like Justice Holmes said in one of his more obscure decisions: three generations of idiots is enough. In this case one will suffice-thank you.

  398. I hope that Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Axelrod, Brazile and the rest of that gang realize how their legacies are going to be affected by 2008….

  399. Oh Jeeeeezzzzz!!!!

    I’m scaring myself at the thought of what the spawn of such a union would look like.

    once again, ewwwwwww……

  400. to:

    John Roberts @ CNN

    You know what John, Gov Palin’s relationship with her new born child, other than what she chooses to tell us, is none of our business.

    Now, move away from CNN to Entertainment tonight or some such, and get out of the faces of decent people like us, who don’t want you in our homes, much less on the sidewalks in front of our houses.

    Remember, it is none of your business.

  401. HILLARY WE LOVE YOU. If you are reading, we love you. Say the word in 2012, and we are there. I know this must be bittersweet for you, as well as for us.

    I have never seen such grace and such strength as you exhibited this past year. You remain my highest sheroe. I know you asked us if we were in it for you, or in it for the ideals you espouse. It was both, because you embody my ideals better than any person on this planet, and I cannot separate the two. I cannot ignore either your beliefs or your woman-ness, because both are part of me.

    Is Sarah Palin the embodiement of my ideals? Not by a million miles. But she may be the only means by which I and other women say, loud and clear – NEVER AGAIN. Never again will what happened to you happen to another woman in this country.


    I fight to make sure that the next time you or any other woman runs, that lesson will have been learned by my party, and by my country.

  402. Does anyone know how I can email Paul Begala?

    His “Is McCain out of his mind” article was sexist at its core. But it was also senseless. He writes that she is dangerously inexperienced, and McC old.

    And Obama is experienced? He’s running for Chief Executive – his main job – with zero exec experience.
    He has already flubbed several foreign policy problems. He has accomplished ????…tell me again, Paul. He’s had success in winning 2 gimme elections and he ????…tell me again, Paul.

    Ohhh….and, BTW, BO is running for prez, not VP. He will have no time to learn. And you don’t find that dangerous? Why not? Because he’s a man?

  403. I apologize for what I just said@6:23 With Sara Palins situation in the news now with the downs symdrome it was the wrong thing to say. Mea culpa.

  404. basil

    after BHO loses the presidency, he must not be allowed to run for any office again, especially his IL Senate seat

  405. in the meantime…Hillary for Senate Majority Leader?…that sounds good to me…Admin, is Hill on board with this?

    if so, let’s start pushing hard…

    the Obama Dem party cannot be trusted to advance Hillary’s power or strength in any way…it would be up to us…

    Hume just said…’another crack in the ceiling’

    Hillary pushed the door open and now others are walking thru…

    Go hillary…Hillary’s voice must be on the national scene…whether Obama wins or loses…

  406. I agree with what everyone is saying. The speech at the convention can be played on video tape in the swing states. This has been a long and gruelling primary and she deserves a rest. Furthermore, if it is true that the republicans will be releasing these whitey tapes starting in mid september one per week for five weeks, she is the one who should be on vacation in Hawaii. How can she possible defend those statements?
    If I am right this will be the dirtiest campaign in history, and she has too much class to get sucked into the vortex.

  407. Well…we have Obama and his nasty backers: Dean/Pelosi et al to thank for reigniting the women’s movement in this country.

    NEVER AGAIN will we be taken for granted, assumed less-than, called names in the media, or by others of our colleagues or peers or politicians

    without saying NO DEAL.

  408. Norma,
    i have been so depressed this week, internalizing everything thrown at HRC and getting sick over it.
    Today, after hearing and seeing Palin, i felt that HRC’s fight had been worth it even if it was to the benefit of the repubs.

    Like S said, HRC opened the door and there will be no turning back the flood of qualified, competent, intelligent and prinicipled women who step through. I believe HRC will be forever honored and remembered for leading the charge and taking the arrows for all of us.

    She is our American Braveheart.


    “We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain. While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”

    To Texas4Hillary’s comment. Isn’t it nice that Hillary has the respect to call Palin “Governor” as she deserves.

  410. Emjay: I have not sent yet. Got waylayed on something. Will get it to you this weekend. Trying to get M on a nation-wide radio program–re voting machines. This paper will be an entre.

  411. Pat Buchanan is blasting out
    The DNC “DISSED” Hillary Clinton. and said the Dems should be Shamed for Dissing the woman that was the leader in their party.
    GO PAT!!! whoot whoot!!!!

    You go Pat, talking about how the Dems dissed Hillary, and Sarah should go to her office in D.C. and thank Hillary for what she did.

  412. well for all you women in here that think Palin’s husband is a hunk…I gotta say this about her..whooohooo (:

  413. Count the votes: To Texas4Hillary’s comment. Isn’t it nice that Hillary has the respect to call Palin “Governor” as she deserves.
    Hillary is solid gold. Or a better metaphor the Hope Diamond for out future. There are too many children in the world and not enough adults. If she had done what bambi did and unleashed her forces this week it would have destroyed the party. So she took it on herself and said this is my defeat (those were her words) and not let it destroy the party.

    When Hillary says this election is not about me she means it. When Obama says it-as he did in his speech you know it is just another lie.

  414. There is an old saying, when God closes one door, he opens another. He has opened another for us today, and there will be many more door open for HRC, to include the Presidency.

  415. Edwards and his runaway ego just can’t stay away until after the election, can they? lol…

    John Edwards to emerge from seclusion for speech

    By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer
    Friday, August 29, 2008

    (08-29) 14:35 PDT Raleigh, N.C. (AP) —

    John Edwards will emerge from seclusion and speak next month at Hofstra University in New York, taking the stage exactly one month after admitting to an extramarital affair, the school said Friday. But his wife Elizabeth has canceled what was to be a joint appearance.

    A representative for the former Democratic presidential candidate confirmed Friday that Edwards will speak alone at the school on Sept. 8, said Hofstra spokesman Stuart Vincent.

    Edwards and his wife were originally billed as the first speakers in a university series on the 2008 election. But that was before Edwards admitted to cheating on Elizabeth with a filmmaker hired by his political action committee.

    A spokeswoman for John and Elizabeth Edwards did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

    Edwards hasn’t spoken publicly since his Aug. 8 admission to the affair in an interview with ABC News, and no other speaking engagements before the Hofstra speech have been announced. In a statement issued the day of the interview, Edwards said he had made a “a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs.”

    Edwards added that he did not plan to speak about the affair again. Both he and Elizabeth have since declined requests for an interview, and neither appeared this week at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

    The couple are still scheduled to appear together Sept. 23 at Salem State College in Massachusetts, college spokesman Jim Glynn said Friday. Edwards also has plans to speak at the University of Illinois in October. Christine Messina-Boyer, director of women’s health at Cooper University Hospital, also said an agent for Elizabeth Edwards recently confirmed she would appear there at the end of September.

    Edwards’ populist themes, which he carried from his first presidential bid in 2004 to this year’s campaign, led him to a second place finish in the Iowa caucuses. But he never finished better than third after Iowa, and dropped out of the presidential race before the Super Tuesday primaries.

    The former North Carolina senator was pushing his poverty message in 2006 when he hired rookie videographer Rielle Hunter to shoot videos of him on the stump. Edwards said the affair with Hunter began and ended that year, although Hunter was seen on the campaign trail up until the final days of 2006.

    Both Edwards and Hunter have denied reports that he is the father of her six-month daughter.

  416. well for all you women in here that think Palin’s husband is a hunk…I gotta say this about her..whooohooo (:
    Debbie: on that recommendation I am prepared to cast my ballot. All 10 of them–the original and 9 more I purchased over the internet from a counterfeitter in chicago who is just getting warmed up/

  417. Pat Buchanan usually said good things about Hillary and for that I was always grateful.

    Did anyone see the interview with Bambi and Biden?? The interviewer was asking them about Sarah. THey both looked like that had a stomach virus!! They are scared shitless.

    How are they going to attack Sarah without pissing off Hillary’s supporters even worse?? I bet Hillary knew of MCCain choice all along and she led the dumbasses down the path like a calf to the slaughter.

  418. John Edwards to emerge from seclusion for speech
    Oh oh. I sense a teaching moment coming on.

    Nobody knows
    The trouble I’ve seen
    Nobody knows
    My sorrow

    Save it John. Go back into the seculsion of your 22000 sq foot masoleum.

  419. John Roberts is Canadian born. I first learned of him when he became a VJ for Much Music, our national version of a music video television station. This is where he interviewed rock stars and came across as if he was much better/smarter than any of his fellow co-workers.


    It looks like he is borrowing from his past experiences. He should be ashamed.

  420. hey, Im just aw’d in a sickening way, I’m reading these posts but….



  421. Wolf Blitzer (the bastard) just tried the most loaded question CNN and got slapped down.

    He asked “why has John McCain committed political suicide by picking a woman with no foreign experience”

    The reply was “well she has more experience than him, he’s been in the senate 4 years and spent half of it running for President, before that he was a community organizer, she’s been a mayor, a gov and a councilwoman”

  422. The Republicans are calling the UnDemocratic Frat Party on its sexism. The primaries got us used to the world being turned upside down, so here’s more where that came from:

    At The Huffington Post, the headline screams: Quick Bio: Alaska Governor For Two Years… “Hockey Mom”… Got Into Politics After Joining PTA… Miss Alaska Runner Up… Had Fifth Child In April… Seriously, that’s her relevant political bio? That’s not a political bio, that’s talking points meant to belittle not just her but every woman in America. It echoes the liberal talking points of the day: mother = questionable background. PTA member = questionable background. Pageant participant = questionable background.

    Furthermore, the liberal talking heads this morning were all aflutter with thoughts of her taking on Biden in a VP debate, apparently assuming there is no way that this “beauty queen” could compete with the towering intellect of their old white guy.

    It is both unbelievable and yet somehow expected. Democrats are really nothing but Democrats. They aren’t enlightened. They aren’t for women. They aren’t for minorities. They aren’t for freedom of speech. They are for Democrats and the exhaustive and unquenchable thirst for power.

    This time, the people aren’t going to buy it.

  423. CountTheVotes: THANKS for posting that. I wonder if we have not all been duped for years.

    My republican friends seem to think so.

  424. I would like to know how the Dems are REALLY going to argue the “experience” thing with Obama at the helm

  425. I was peeking at NQ and on one of the threads most of the men confessed to getting teary-eyed when Palin’s name was announced.

    Awwwww……. 🙂

    Also, anyoneknow if this is true?? Did JM play HRC’s Swan SONG – “who says you can’t go home!” during the veep announcement?

  426. “Holy cow. I’m just kind of speechless on the whole thing.” — Chuck Heath, Palin’s father.

  427. dora, I think Obama threw the AA’s and MLK under the bus with everyone else. They served their purpose.

  428. Yup i knew the republicans would slam bambi for ignoring Hillary

    Mike Huckabee

    Sarah Palin is a pleasant surprise for those of us who had hoped that Senator McCain would pick a principled and authentic conservative pro-life leader. Sarah Palin is both principled and authentic. As a Governor, she also brings an important balance of understanding of the critical domestic issues that is needed and that the Democrats have ignored with their ticket. Governor Palin is smart, authentic, tough, and a dynamic choice that will remind women that they are not welcome on the Democrat’s ticket, they have a place with Republicans.

  429. Overheard several women today leaving the Democratic National Convention who said…..And I give a shiite about what any of them says, WHY? I’m embarassed to admit, this could be the first VP I ever fell in love with.

  430. hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!

  431. Basil, no, that was at the California Delegates “convention” where everyone was told how they would vote

  432. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
    hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!

  433. # moononpluto Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Overheard several women today leaving the Democratic National Convention who said…..And I give a shiite about what any of them says, WHY? I’m embarassed to admit, this could be the first VP I ever fell in love with.


    well, that’s because any Hillary delegate already bolted from the DNC before the Fraud’s speech. So, no wonder – they’re just listening at women in the Obama echo-chamber.

  434. More good news. A gay friend of mine who was towing the party line after being a Hillary supporter just called me filled with outrage about bambi allowing us to see loved ones in the hospital. I didn’t watch the speech. Not sure what bambi said, but my friend is a clinical psycholgist and was offended that of all the things denied to gay couples bambi took the one that is equated with sickness. Let’s not forget if a couple spends 20 years together the surviving partner has to pay a huge inheritence tax as the relationship is not recognized. A husband or wife pays nothing.

  435. # justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    hey all – lets continue to work for Hillary and ensuring she continues to be respected and clean up the democrat party get rid of the idiots!


    Bay Buchanan is just basically telling Campbell she is full of Sheet tanking for Obama while Palin has at least got administrative experience AND has ACTUALLY worked across the aisle to bring reform…while Bambi just “talks about change and has been running for President for two years, Palin has actually be making changes and raising a family”

  436. Geraldine Ferraro reacting to Palin’s choice “I am really pleased.”

    audio here:

  437. Found this great quote at alegre’s which sums up perfectly the way women have reacted to the sexism from BM, BO and the DNC.

    “They may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel.”
    — Carl W. Buechner

  438. The MSM is making a huge mistake…arguing which candidate, the Prez or the VEEP is LESS experienced!


    The Dems are toast.

  439. Admin: posting at 4:29 p.m. of McCain and Palin visiting the troops was very powerful, and such a contrast to the arrogant and narcissistic empty suit.

    Norma: That posting of Hillary’s speech, had be in tears. She is such a treasure for this country, and I am so very angry with way the democratic party and the media have treated her. It is disgusting and unforgiveable. Palin seems like a tough cookie, I hope she can hold up with the media attention. Her husband seems to have a good attitude.

  440. on experience…just who does BHO think he’s running against or is VP subliminally where he thinks he should be

  441. i am not a woman but watching Senator Clinton utter those words about acclimation on Wed drove me from disgust to blind rage at the Democratic Party. From my perspective it was cruel especially after listenning to Arkansas give all or most of its delegates to that mangy cur.

  442. birdgal – I agree. Symbolically Palin is a great choice, but she still will have to go through the fire and the microscope that the media will put her under. THAT is also a telling sign of the pressure she’ll have to endure as CIC.

    I hope that unlike Biden, she is NOT a gaffe machine.

  443. basil9
    well she has already been compared to a porn star on obamabot hate sites. So I think it is very safe to say they are terrified of her and have to reduce her. A Freudian analysis of bambi’s followers would be fascinating.

  444. Bo is just trying to get back into the news cycle. He surely expected today to be all about his exaltant appearance last night. 😉

  445. WE all have a lot riding on Palin, I think she will do fine.

    I wonder if Gloria went home to California and is planning on keeping her mouth shut about the thuggery at the convention?? Something tells me NO! She is not one to go gently into that goodnight!

  446. FOX says their poll – only 3% of women worried about abortion this election.

    We wimmins are TIRED of both sides beating us up over that one.

  447. Nancy Pelosi on McCain’s veep selection: ‘Palin is not the right choice’By Jeff Mitchell
    Category: President, LocalTags: Republican National Convention, Sarah Palin
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) issued the following statement Friday on Sen. John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate:

    “The selection of a vice presidential candidate is one of the most significant and telling decisions a presidential candidate can make.

    John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin raises serious questions about his judgment. Why, when the country is fighting two wars, facing an uncertain economy and an energy crisis, did Senator McCain make the choice that he did?

    Why, with so many other qualified women and men in his party, did John McCain choose Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin is not the right choice. She shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies.

    John McCain and Sarah Palin will not bring the American people the New Direction they need.”

    The SCOTUS, Roe v. Wade and women’s issues was the BO campaigns “ace in the hole” according to Chuck Todd from MSNBO network. The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.” THAT is a direct quote from the BO campaign via Todd.

    The bot ar out in full force today preaching ther perils of roe v wade

  449. LOVE THIS

    “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency,” said Obama spox Bill Burton.

    Palin was a Council Woman. Where was Obama a Councilman?

    Palin was a mayor of a small town. How many citizens lived in the city where Obama was mayor?

    Palin is the Governor of Alaska. Which state has Obama governed?

    Palin is responsible for her state’s budget. Which state’s budget has Obama been responsible for?

    Palin is the Commander in Chief of Alaska’s National Guard. Which state’s National Guard has Obama commanded?

  450. h4t,

    Between ru487 and the morning after pill, new and improved methods of contraception, I truly believe the r v w isssue is not nearly as worrisome as it was 30 years ago.

    There are options now.

  451. I have posted on other topics that an organziation must remain flexible to survive, and take corrective action when necessary.


    I just have one more thing to add:

    O does not understand who he is up against. He might be 72, but son, he knows how things work in a political world, and your hoods and DNC friends and you Blew it.

  452. henry,

    I don’t mean to offend anyone but many AA men are even more sexist than their white and latina counterparts.

    This is glaringly obvious by the way women are portrayed in rap lyrics and videos.

  453. admin-
    msm screams now for hillary to run out and fight palin. we need to persuade hillary to stop it. let biden do it. or claire. or the others.

  454. Kostner posted an interview with Palin on the Money show, and she was very intelligent, articulate, well-informed, and did not stumble over her words. Her knowledge of the subject was breathtaking and complete. There is substance and potential for this woman. The posting is at 6:57 p.m.

  455. Marie, that makes me FURIOUS!!!!!

    The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.”

  456. kostner Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    here is what one Hillary supporter said to Pelosi statment
    from hillaryclintonforum
    Please. allow me to re-phrase Nancy’s statement with a few substitutions of my own:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: “The selection of a presidential candidate is one of the most significant and telling decisions a party can make. The DNC’s coronation of Barak Obama raises serious questions about their judgment. Why, when the country is fighting two wars, facing an uncertain economy and an energy crisis, did Dean/Pelosi/Brazile/Kennedy/Kerry make the choice that they did? Why, with so many other qualified women and men in his party, did the DNC coronate Barak Obama? Barak Obama is not the right choice. He shares Donna Brazile’s commitment to overturning the will of the Democrats and implementing improbable economic policies. Barak Obama and Joe Biden will not bring the American people the New Direction they need.”

  457. Feminists for Life thrilled to see Sarah Palin as vice presidential nominee

    Alexandria, VA, Aug 29, 2008 / 06:15 pm (CNA).- This morning Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska was selected by Sen. John McCain to serve as his vice presidential nominee. Palin brings with her several unique credentials, but one of the most notable is that she is a proud member of Feminists for Life, according to the group’s president Serrin Foster.

    In an interview with CNA on Friday, Foster explained that her group normally doesn’t disclose its membership, but since Gov. Palin freely spoke about it to the Anchorage Daily News in August of 2006, she could confirm that Palin joined in 2006.

    Sarah Palin also revealed in the same article that she has ‘adamantly supported’ the pro-life cause since ‘I first understood, as a child, the atrocity of abortion.’

    Gov. Sarah Palin is not just spouting rhetoric regarding her dedication to protecting life. On April 18, 2008, Palin gave birth to her fifth child Trig Paxon Van Palin, despite her doctor’s suggestion that she abort him because he has Down’s Syndrome.

    Palin’s beliefs mesh well with Feminists for Life’s goal of “systematically eliminating the root causes that drive women to abortion” and “doing so through women centered solutions.” The vice presidential nominee explained that she believes “no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child.”

    While Palin, a non-denominational Protestant, is anti-abortion, she is in support of contraception, a position that lies beyond the scope of FFL’s mission.

    The selection of Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate led Foster to reflect on what the event means for women and the feminist movement.

    “One can only wonder how Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton would feel to see this: Hillary speaking on the anniversary of the 88th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. And now, Sarah Palin two days later, becoming the first pro-life feminist to be chosen as a major party’s vice presidential nominee.”

    FFL’s president also pointed out that her group has seen unprecedented success in recent weeks because “the platforms of both major U.S. political parties incorporate key pieces of FFL’s unique message.”

    The Democratic Party platform added language this year that states: “The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman’s decision to have a child by ensuring access to and availability of programs for pre and post natal health care, parenting skills, income support, and caring adoption programs.”

    Ms. Foster was particularly surprised and happy to learn that the proposed platform for the Republican Party will include the phrase she coined—“Women deserve better than abortion,” she told CNA.
    Like I said before, the Democrats are moving to the right on this issue and it seem Obama would have Limited this to court favor with the religious Left.

    The Democratic? Taliban Party has millions of Americans who are pro-life and still vote Democrats but if John McCain is able to move the Republican Party towards the center he WILL pick up more Democrats and Independents.

    The Democratic? Taliban Party are idiots and LOSERS the more they attack Palin the more they will more more voters over to McCain.

  458. And as I said before I believe that McCain has found waffles achillies HILL. Bigger than Palin is the McCain camp seems to understand bambi’s lack of humor>Esp when it comes to himself. Hillary is very self aware and acknowledges her own shortcomings. In Living History she mentions her laugh and her hair repeatedly. Were as the annointed cannot be criticized, and when he does respond it is from a teleprompter.

    Again I say thankyou Country first and Gov Palin has just made it easy for me to cast my first ever republican vote.

  459. # texan4hillary Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    msm screams now for hillary to run out and fight palin. we need to persuade hillary to stop it. let biden do it. or claire. or the others.

    this sounds like “mommy, mommy, please do my homework or I’ll get an F in school.”

    as I said before, when Hillary goes out on the trail, the Republicans will merely compliment her and say, she is experienced and smart and should’ve been on the Democratic ticket, and it’ll only remind Hillary’s supporters that BO and the DNC dissed Hillary, and now want her to go out there and iron their shirts. NO WAY. NO Bama.

  460. Am I reading they are bringing out Elizabeth and John now. Oh boy, they have to be scared and I bet Hillary told them to kiss her ass!

    They know we all respected Elizabeth, so they are going to bring this poor woman back up on the national stage for everyone to gauk at. Ridiculous! Obama and the DNC is toast!!

  461. Hill4Texas
    pretty much the same thing with gays. we can throw them under the bus in Carolina when doing a gospel tour because we know they have no where else to go. Think again. McCain knows that the odds of passing a constitutional amendment are almost nil. Leaving it up to states is brilliant. What group of people tends to have the highest education level and the most disposable income.

  462. This all boils down to the plan that they never thought McCain or Repubs would ever in a million years pull a woman VP.

    They never planned for it and now they have no idea how to handle it. They thought that with Hillary out of the way, the women would all fall into line and now that scheme has blown up in their faces.

  463. HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    Marie, that makes me FURIOUS!!!!!

    The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.”
    That wasn’t a secret…Team Obama and the Democratic? Taliban Party has no RESPECT for Women and their contribution to the party.

    I knew they were going to throw out those old chestnuts of Roe vs Wade and the Supreme Court and they would do NOTHING to court our votes because the assume we had no place to go.

    BUT the fact is YES WE CAN vote for McCain/Palin ticket because McCain is earning our votes without pandersing and telling us how to think.

    Go McCain!! Remember Martin Luther King was a Republican and the Democratic? Taliban Party used SEXISM and MYSOGINY as a political tactic that set Women rights back decades.

    You don’t reward that kind of behavior that has been going on for years.

  464. I think McCains learning from his British counterpart. The British conservatives, went pro gay and somewhat acceptable limited abortion and it payed dividends. They are now poised to retake the British govt.

  465. CountTheVotes, just as we have said before, when we saw her after she had suspended her campaign, all we saw was this POW with a gun to her head being forced to do things.

    O is a man, as I remember, Brazille said they did not need women, they were going to do this with new voters.

    So go forth and do this. The rest of us bitter, small town people, clinging to our religion are going to vote for McCain, and Gov Sarah Palin.

    If you expect HRC to fix this for you, think again. We said all along this was larger than HRC, that is was the disrespect that the DNC and your hood, and you showed for women.

    We know a captive when we see one. All it will do is garner our resolve to not elect you. Cheating does not go down well in a Democracy. But then I guess you missed Civics class, or forgot it.

  466. moononpluto, the DNC and their star are so enamered with him that that hadn’t notice the opposition was planning a comeback. THey are lost, they don’t want to make all us little women mad as well as all those gun totin, red necks. It is scramble time in Bambi’s world today.

    I could see it written all over the faces of Biden and Obama today, their scart!

  467. moononpluto – with McCain, the Republicans are learning how to rebrand themselves. i think i said this earlier, but they had nowhere to grow with their base, and it’s time they became more progressive on things to capture a new generation and to bring back women to their base.

  468. NewMexicoFan – I agree. Hillary has been coerced. The acclamation during the Roll Call…there is no way after so many of us worked so hard to Get Out the Vote and to make sure everyone was counted, and to do our best to make sure people were not disenfranchised during the caucuses…

    only to have our votes completely dismissed and unrepresented at the sham of a roll call. The Clintons would not have approved of that – they were coerced.

  469. Top Ten Surprises in Barack Obama’s Democratic National Convention Address (from Letterman)

    10. Delivered speech in a bright orange pantsuit
    9. Wants to change October to “Barack-tober”
    8. Most of speech was devoted to his Labor Day barbecue cole slaw recipe
    7. Outlined plan for America, then took calls about the Broncos defense
    6. Kept saying to John Kerry, “Hey, why the long face?”
    5. Twelve-and-a-half minutes of, “Testing-one-two”
    4. Performed hilarious ventriloquist act with Dennis Kucinich on his lap
    3. Promised to make Pluto a state
    2. Plans to bring peace to Lo and Audrina on “The Hills”
    1. Also pronounces “nuclear,” “nucular”

  470. Okay
    I am ready to be atacked but I was very very pissed off at Senator Clinton for the roll call fiasco. Why? I was enraged/saddened/disgusted/betrayed in 30seconds time.

  471. HillaryforTexas Says:

    August 29th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
    HILLARY WE LOVE YOU. If you are reading, we love you. Say the word in 2012, and we are there. I know this must be bittersweet for you, as well as for us.

    I have never seen such grace and such strength as you exhibited this past year. You remain my highest sheroe. I know you asked us if we were in it for you, or in it for the ideals you espouse. It was both, because you embody my ideals better than any person on this planet, and I cannot separate the two. I cannot ignore either your beliefs or your woman-ness, because both are part of me.

  472. Pelosi can take a long walk off a short pier, as far as I’m concerned. She threw 18 million Hillary supporters under the bus, and eliminated democracy from the selection process. That is unforgiveable. I don’t know, how she look herself in the mirror. What a disgrace.

  473. birdgal
    sorry but i have to state the obvious its easy to look in the mirror when a doctor reinvents the reflection every other week. Maybe that is why she is so drawn to bambi.


    They are still polling at AOL on how the Palin decision is going down. It looks good, but if you have not voted, you might want to do it. 4 questions.

  475. Informal poll:
    which pathetic, power abusing, do nothing who has done nothing, misogonyst, homophobic, elitest incompetent would you most like to be for halloween?
    Perhaps it is only fair that we automatically exclude Brazille as she is just way to easy.

  476. Sarah Palin Runs A State. Barack Obama Runs His Mouth.

    Maverick and Barracuda Take On Blowhard and Blowharder

    This is the best way I can think to say it.

  477. Henry,

    I feel the same way. But from what wbboei said, it seems that when the hotel room ballots weren’t adding up the way pooplosi wanted a last minute roll call was called and there was total confusion or something.

    I don’t blame HRC for it – after all, her supporters were all clamoring for a roll call. I think she, like us, believed that justice WOULD prevail. How naive of us.

  478. Found this great quote at alegre’s which sums up perfectly the way women have reacted to the sexism from BM, BO and the DNC.

    “They may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel.”
    — Carl W. Buechner
    Basil: great quote and so true

  479. moonpluto,

    It’s possible even our valiant HRC was traumatized and immobilized by the sheer evil she was subjected to.

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch but from reports i read it seems she stayed strong to the end, just like a queen sentenced to be guillotined who walks calmly and proudly to her execution and accepts her fate. That is true nobility.

  480. wow once again today my posts are not showing up.
    maybe I should rephrase
    when you are dressing for the late october festivities which monster are you gonna be
    kennedy, caroline
    matthews(think about that one)
    et al

  481. This is a happy dance day…looking at the Democratic? Taliban Party looking and acting like the LOSERS they are…they can’t attack Palin on Education and Union because she and her husband (still is) were Union folks. Can’t call her elitist because who in Alaska are elites?

    The Dems are having fits trying to define her and it work work because they put Obambi at the head of their ticket.

    Go McCain/Palin 08


  482. Jesus i forgot that, will the unions have second thoughts now.

    Palin is pro unions. She may bring in some unions.

  483. moon
    her husband is a member of a/the steel workers union. In western PA and Ohio that will play very well

  484. Henry, it’s gremlins in the machine not anything purposeful. Yesterday poor Djia was the victim of the gremlins. Today, it might be you. There are major software changes (Internet Explorer has a new version out) so it is an internet wide phenomenon. Our spam filters code goes a little nuts sometimes.

    We are very interested in the list of “monsters” of NOvember. We want a list for the primaries (get Kerry out) and for after Obama concedes.

  485. moon,

    sorry but i didn’t catch what you meant unless it’s that the ad proves McCain punked the DN by not posting Palin’s name?

    i don’t want the vibes of those people anywhere near me even if it is only dress-up.

    I’ll go as Bellini’s Norma.

  486. admin/basil9
    I was inspired by the theme of the last couple of posts. Halloween being so close to Nov 4. Maybe orchastrating parties were everyone shows up in one of the infidels. Brazille= Godzilla, Kerry= Lurch, Oprah=Orca, and I am sure the highly creative minds here can come up with much better.

  487. Didnt take Bambi’s lot long, nothing really in this

    key point here : “She never directly asked me to fire him,” (so no story, its hearsay)

    The July firing of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan by Gov. Sarah Palin, who was announced as John McCain’s running mate on Friday, has unearthed a stream of soap-opera-like details about Palin, her husband, her family and top state appointees. The controversy has also cut against Palin’s reputation for holding an ethical line and standing up to colleagues in the Republican Party over matters of principle.

    Monegan, 57, a respected former chief of the Anchorage Police Department, said in an interview with The Washington Post’s James V. Grimaldi on Friday that the governor repeatedly brought up the topic of her ex-brother-in-law, Michael Wooten, after Monegan became the state’s commissioner of public safety in December 2006. Palin’s husband, Todd, met with Monegan and presented a dossier of information about Wooten, who was going through a bitter custody battle with Palin’s sister, Molly. Monegan also said Sarah Palin sent him e-mails on the subject, but Monegan declined to disclose them, saying he planned to give them to a legislative investigator looking into the matter.

    Palin initially denied that she or anyone in her administration had ever pressured Monegan to fire the trooper, but this summer acknowledged more than a half a dozen contacts over the matter, including one phone call from a Palin administration official to a state police lieutenant. The call was recorded and was released by Palin’s office this month. Todd Palin told a television reporter in Alaska that he did meet with Monegan, but said he was just “informing” Monegan about the issue, not exerting pressure.

    “She never directly asked me to fire him,” Monegan said.

    But he said Todd Palin told him Wooten “shouldn’t be a trooper. I’ve tried to explain to him, you can’t head hunt like this. What you need to do is back off, because if the trooper does make a mistake, and it is a terminable offense, it can look like political interference.

    “I think he’s emotionally committed in trying to see that his former brother-in-law is punished.” (yup well when he tasered his 11yr old stepson, i’d be pissed too)

    The allegation against Palin, “undercuts one of the points they are making that she is an ethical reformer,” said Democratic state Sen. Hollis French, who is managing a $100,000 investigation into the firing of Walter Monegan. (what a waste of money)

  488. Palin as VP may change SIUC student’s mind for November
    BY ADAM TESTA, The Southern
    Friday, August 29, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
    CARBONDALE — Brett Merboth’s vote for the nation’s next president may have changed Friday.

    Merboth, a freshman aviation technology major at Southern Illinois University Carbondale, joined America in the surprise of hearing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced as Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential running mate, and that surprise may have been enough to convince him to vote Republican.

    Last year, Merboth met and spoke with Palin at an Alaskan state girl’s basketball tournament in Anchorage. His hometown team from Nome was playing in the tournament, and Palin, a former basketball player, was in attendance.

    “I saw her there and a couple of my friends told me I wouldn’t run up there and talk to her, so I did,” he said.

    Merboth and his family moved to Illinois after he decided to attend SIUC, and his mother’s political alignment fell right into place in their new home.

    “I’m pretty strongly Democratic and standing by (Sen. Barack) Obama,” said Kim Galleher, Brett’s mother.

    When asked who he’d be voting for now, Merboth replied, “Now that Sarah Palin’s in it, it’s a little different.”

    Merboth said he was impressed at how friendly Palin was when people keep asking her questions despite the fact she was trying to watch a basketball game. She also “always worked for the people” and helped end a reputation of corruption in the state, he said.

    After finishing at SIUC, Merboth hopes to return to Alaska to work.

  489. I think a win by McCain with Palin is a win for my BOOM BOOM. She is myngrand-niece and I at 41 want her to believe that she can have it all.

  490. at 6:30 am today someone at hillaryclintonforum announced McCains pick of Palin for vp

    32,500 viewed that message on that site since then

    …that is absolutely amazing

    I’m betting every pro Hillary site including Big Pink has had lots of hits today whether they posted or not.

  491. other monsters:

    Keith Olberman or Doberman
    Roland Martin
    Candy Crowley
    Taylor Marsh

    Wow, there are a lot.

  492. Can someone help me reconcile the tremendous respect I hold for Senator Clinton with her announcing for the state of New York we nominate USELESS as the nominee. Why Why Why. The shot of MO as she did that went beyond repulsion.

  493. Birdgal
    If we were having a contest for who had the best monster costume i think you may have one. JJJr not only dissed the most inclusive president ever but also his own father.

  494. henry, she stopped the roll call before NY voted, some think, so that she as senator from NY did not have to actually cast a vote for Obama.

    We may never know the pressures and arm-twisting and blackmail she was under, or what info she knew that we didn’t. Please do not judge Hillary. She fought longer and harder than any of us, and it is very easy to sit here and say what we would have done, when we didn’t have to DO it. Sort of like Bambi’s war speech.

  495. O’Rielly on FOX is livid, I don’ think I’ve ever seen him so angry

    MSNBC put:

    How many houses does Palin bring
    to the rupublican ticket?

  496. As far as Hillary being coerced during the roll call, all you have to do is watch her decent to the convention floor to acclaim Obama the nominee by acclamation to know she was forced. She walked as she if was forced. She never looked up into the camera, she looked down and I know that is how she felt.
    THe bastard’s deserve to lose and lose big, and I hope they will.

    I would like to know what they used as a bargaining chip and I am sure right at this moment the Obama campaign is working overtime to find the dirt on Sarah. We must band together and make sure this never happens to another woman candidate!

  497. Bill O’Reilly…Whew! After all the down and dirty, nasty, below the belt, vile things he has gleefully said to trash Hillary CLinton over the past 16 years, he suddenly gets all pious about some other network saying something questionable about Palin.

    O’Reilly is one creepy dude!

  498. H4Tx
    I do not judge but my fury for the dnc escalated to all out rage. I wish she hadn’t is all I can say. My country comes way before my party. I am a gay man and I realize that full acceptence may not come in my lifetime but I also have a boom boom( she’ll be 2 on monday and she can read about fifty words and can count to 12– boom boom is short for chicky chicky boom boom) and her future means a lot to me. Sarah Palin I respect my boom booms mother knew she couldn’t deal and gave her up so my entire family stepped in to help an eighteen year old girl who had a baby. I guess sometimes it takes a village. Best thing I have ever done in my life. When I vote for the McCain/Palin ticket I know I am giving her a future.

  499. Fox has a history of dissing Hillary and and liberal woman that is for sure, but frankly if it takes a republican woman to get them to stop their attacks than I am happy.

    If this whole thing gets the republicans to open their eyes then I couldn’t be more pleased

  500. Do you really O’Reilly and Company will stop dissing HILLARY? They may stop attacking Republican women but Hillary?

  501. “he RECOGNIZES that women are a force that must be heard and heeded. And that, my friends, is a start.”

    Absolutely. Hillary supporters drove the Repubs to nominate a woman for Vice President. Who does McCain answer to? Mainstream American women or the Radical Right? We got the answer today.

    McCain, a maverick and a centrist, is asking for our help so he can tell the Radical Right to shove it. Now we know why Pat Buchanan was praising Obama’s b.s. speech last night.

  502. Southern Born

    Do I prefer the silence from the democrats on Hillary’s attacks or the attacks by Matthews, Shuster,or Olberman on MSNBC or for that matter those on CNN or other local networks?

    Do I cringe each time I hear any woman get degraded?

    What is your question exactly? Should I snub FOX because they show the true story of BHO even though they don’t like Hillary?

  503. HillaryforTexas
    no. I am lucky. Lived in New york City for twenty years and had to leave because I amassed a lot of debt(MY fault credit cards) came back to pittsburgh in many ways just ready to be the end. Then two beautiful women came into my life who inspired me to live a life worth living. The first is of course boom boom and the second was Sen Clinton. I hold in such esteem. Yet even as she inspired me to knock on door after door in the hot sun sometimes with boom boom I cannot rationalize her acclimation bit. I believe in her and worked for her. Why? Palin still tells my boom boom she can be what she wants to be.

  504. basil,

    i’ve just completed working 11days in a row, and
    i am beat…
    in that time i had my computer crashed, and windows
    reinstalled, i lost all my info…

    i have three days off, and i want to talk business,
    could you give me your blog address again?

    i am resting tonight, i would like to talk tomorrow if you dont mind…

    i need the hawk addy agian k?

  505. facinating stats

    39 Primaries (State Run, State Financed)
    34,829,191 Votes Cast -97% of the total Votes cast

    17,657,517 Votes – 50.7% Hillary Clinton – 1464 Pledged Delegates
    17,171,674 Votes – 49.3% Barack Obama – 1429 Pledged Delegates
    Hillary Clinton: + 485,843 Votes – 1.4% and 35 Pedged Delegates

    13 Caucuses (Party Run, Party Financed)
    1,057,136 Votes Cast (2.9%) –53% of these Votes (558,030) were an estimate made by the Democrat Party
    378,684 Estimated Votes – 36% Hillary Clinton – 171 Delegates
    678,452 Estimated Votes – 64% Barack Obama – 323 Delegates
    Barack Obama + 299,768 Estimated Votes +206 Pledged Delegates

    For every birthday and christmas I give my boom boom an envelope to not be opened unless needed. Now she will be two on Monday and I made the first Christmas about her and I. Then I did I Will Always Love You Dolly’s version, then something like we are family, this year i am giving her “a Love that will Never grow Old” but Christmas is coming up soon. And by the way its very easy to create walmart will take your pics and lay thre music. any song suggestions?

  507. dont look at palin’s wikipedia-the bots have totally changed it to negs. cache
    http:/ /

  508. Wow Debbie, based on those stats, Nasty Pelosi wasn’t kidding when she said we would have the most transparent Party in history running things, eh?


  509. T4H…that’s totally disgusting and FASCIST…

    these folks just make me MORE AND MORE sure that NOT supporting Obama is the right thing to do.

    Imagine how the government would be

  510. Admin> can you embed the newmax tv interview with Dick Morris re. Sara Palin. It is supportive of your analysis. Here is a small excerpt, but the full text is even better. One memorable snippet: barack obama spent the primary trying to defeat one woman and will spend the general election trying to defeat another. Also, he says Biden is no match for her. Here is a brief overview of his comments from the newsmax tv. Check it out fro yourself but if you agree please post/

    In an interview moments after Sarah Palin’s pick as John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate, Newsmax contributor Dick Morris tells Newsmax TV that Palin was a great choice. “She’s a brilliant person, a reform-oriented governor and a Miss Alaska runner-up,” Morris says.

  511. Okay so I want to leave a video/audio for my grand niece to open when she needs it. I hope that she will never ever need to view as she is two. i am 41 and I want her to know how much I love her. How much I am afraid for her. I have i will always love you and a love that will never grow old. they sit in an envelope which reads open when needed.

  512. henry, when my babies were little, I always sang The Beatles “I Will” to them

    Love you forever and forever
    love you with all my heart
    love you whenever we’re together
    love you when we’re apart

    and when at last I’ve found you
    a song will fill the air
    sing it loud so I can hear you
    make it easy to be near you
    for the things you do, endear you to me
    Oh, you know I will.

    That was my babies lullaby.

  513. “If Hillary is going to be successful in 2012 we must clean house first and we can only do so with a devastating Democratic loss.”

    Yes, an Extinction Level Event.

    Dobson is the one with no place to turn, not us.

  514. dont look at palin’s wikipedia-the bots have totally changed it to negs. cache
    http:/ /
    Need to get this to the McCain camaign asap. I have been trying to cultivate a relationship at that level but my efforts have not been crowned with conspicous success/ I have tried my local contacts and cant locate business cards. Somebody needs to be monitoring that site on a regular basis like 24/7. I will keep trying unless someone else here has a reliable source.

  515. LMAO

    From B Merry (there was a link)

    How to get rid of Barack Obama

    1. Open a new file in your computer.
    2. Name it ‘Barack Obama’.
    3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
    4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
    5. Your PC will ask you:’Do you really want to get rid of ‘Barack Obama’?
    6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’
    7. Feel better?

    GOOD! – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi!

  516. I think Gore was behind the whole thing. But best of all I think Rove doublecrossed his new friend Donna. Gee, I would like to send her an email saying why she let Rove doublecross her like that! The Dumocrats!

    Are they still chomping at the bit to get Hillary out there against Sarah??

  517. Here’s a little info our gay brothers and sister might find reassuring:

    Palin’s first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska’s attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.

    So let’s review.

    Does Obama support gay marriage? No. He supports civil unions.
    Does Palin support gay marriage? No. She supports civil unions.


  518. Henry: where brazille is concerned they shoot horses but they hang traitors. That is the law of nations, and there is nothing she can offer in mitigation for her offense of conspiring with rove to destroy the party.

  519. henry, If Obama loses she’ll get a lot of the blame, as will Dean. I doubt she’ll retain much power after that.

  520. Henry, I don’t know how Brazille got to where she is, except the Democratic National Committee is run by losers. Dean at the helm is the prime example. The ones that strike me as odd are all the party bosses that we knew nothing about before we did the RBC and delegate outreach through FDR. I mean, wtf?

    WHO is Alice Germond? WHO ARE all these folks that can BUY policy? It’s the same way with the Republicans. The parties are controlled by a very few with a set agenda, and attempts at infiltrating are long processes. We see what the Christian Right did to the republicans, and now the Radical left to the Dems.

    Besides, they all wanted to get rid of the Clintons. It’s pathological on BOTH sides, and America LOVES the Clintons. Perhaps that is why. But as special interest ideology is allowed to creep in, the party will become more and more corrupt. It happened to the Republicans with the Christian right. George Bush is not the problem, per se, he is just a TERRIBLE Administrator and he has tanked all he has touched. Why anyone thought it would be different with the US Govt is beyond me. But it has been his EGO and HUBRIS that NO ONE ELSE can be right that made it so destructive, and his inability to control himself with the budget. So Congress took HIS lead. And THIS is what will happen if BO is in the White House. He will be so stuck on HIMSELF as was Bush, and the lead he brings to Pelosi’s Congress will tank the economy completely and REALLY bring the thuggery of the Chicago Combine into the halls of power. What we have seen is only a taste, and I believe in my heart, Donna Brazille is a racist thug NOW, and people like MO will just engender that kind of attitude among weak folks who seek more power.

    I HOPE that this choice of Palin WILL allow McCain to say “FU tothe radical fringe” in HIS party, and we can say the same to the leftists in ours. NEITHER is good for America

  521. This is weird. Palin dominated the Yahoo headlines all day. Now she’s not anywhere in the top five, and the first one is Obama’s speech viewership. Strange.

  522. on hillbuzz someone did a write up from ak claimin she bloked an abortion ban in her town when she was mayor. very interesting if true and who knows.

  523. Caught a little of Greta’s show. The people in Alaska love Sarah Palin. During her 20 months as governor, she has vetoed 300 (!) bills related to special interests. The woman, Greta was interviewing said that Gov. Palin had done more in her 20 months, than the previous 3 term (12years) governor. This is going to be interesting. She has walked the talk, and has accomplishments to show for it. She also vetoed a bill that was going to discriminate against benefits for gay couples. She was for giving benefits to gay couples. She is against gay marriage, but most politicians are (unfortunately).

  524. I Axelrove is busy burying Sarah’s accomplishments or at least fabricating them. I hope McCain realizes what he is up against with these bots.
    McCain better call Obama out on this crap! I think the republicans are going to all stand behind his choice, they don’t eat their own like the democrats do!

  525. this turns the “mcSame” argument on its head with Dems saying, more of the same with john mccain. There was nothing “same” about this. It was totally maverick and different! It was brilliant!

  526. wbboei et al,

    Illinois Underground Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    Basil, Norma: I hope that Hillary “has a headache” for about the next 9 weeks.


    I pray that’s all her indisposition amounts to. Hillary has always had the wisdom and maturity to lie low without ANY comment or excuse, at times when most people would be explaining themselves all over the
    place. The Clinton family needs R&R and privacy and I hope they’re getting it, with maybe their own close friends, and plenty of peace and quiet.

    She’s escaped the servitude of VP. She’s out of the pressure of juggling her delegates and convention strategy. BO must know by now that having her stump for him doesn’t work: people show up to cheer her and boo his name.

    I think strategy-wise, the best thing for her is to keep out of sight and not comment on Palin or McCain and let everyone else make the connections and comparisons and predictions. Let them say, “The more Hlllary stays out of it — the more it becomes about her.”

  527. Infuriating that NaziPelosi has the nerve to play the Roe v Wade ithreat in her response to the Gov. Sarah Palin VP announcement. She must really believe that they can STILL hold all women HOSTAGE like they have Hillary over this issue and Supreme Court nominees.

    I’ll put it to you like this: When a nominee can run for the highest office in the land and not even have to prove his citizenship – I’ll be damned if they think they can bully us into submission to a BHO/Biden administration over Roe v Wade. That crap may work for young, stupid Obamabots – but to us old hags – we could really care less. I mean it. Intimidation isn’t working anymore DNC thugs. Someone should turn the tables on you NaziPelosi.

    We’ve been through the ringer over the treatment of Hillary and the fact that she will not be the President – so any threat after that letdown falls on deaf ears and rings hollow. Give it your best shot, because it ain’t working.

    I’m feeling like a real “maverick” lately. McCain/Palin. Yeah, that’s the ticket. The DNC has to go, so we will fiish them off. Sraight Republican Ticket is the only way to go. Punish the spineless SuperDelegate Dems who supported BHO. Send them home and let them see how it feels.

    NObama NOvember

  528. Bill: Got your message and was eager to give you my reaction to Sarah Palin. I see it as EXTREMELY positive!! I have to admit after watching last night’s extravaganza, I was a bit down and resigned to the fact that Mr. Obama would be our next President. Now, I think it is going to be one heck of a campaign!

    In the back of my mind this morning while watching her speak after McCain introduced her, I was reminded of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. She’s fresh, grounded, no-nonsense,I suspect not easily frustrated. The one statement I came away with was when she thanked Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton and said “We women aren’t through yet.” It was neither Democrat nor Republican but “we women” which I think will grab a lot of Hillary’s supporters.

    I’m heartened and actually looking forward to the remainder of this campaign – particularly anxious to hear her debate Mr. Biden! He just might have his hands full! I’m sure you’ll hear from John tomorrow. Thanks for asking. Julie

  529. The DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY and Obama is TOAST! I have seen the Dems trying to Sarah Palin out as this crazy right winger but if that was the case why is she running at 80% in her state and ran as a reform candidate.

    The more the Dems use SEXISM AND MYSOGINY the more people will voter for her…already independents are saying very nice comments on her selection for vp and are pooing the Dems “the sky is falling” comments.

    Her introduction to the world was very successful and comes across very down to earth. She will help bring in the west for McCain.

    Sarah is married to a minority and that will help McCain in CA. You don’t see the Republican party crying about this pick, they are very excited and I must remind Democrats that there are millions of pro-life Democrats who will be very excited about Sarah.

    Obama is TOAST!!!

    Remember, I said earlier that CA is not a given for Obama…this pick will help move CA into the McCain column.

  530. I don’t know if it has been mentioned yet,
    but how refreshing it was to hear USA USA USA,
    rather than the cult chant o-bam-a o-bam-a.

    I’ll always be a Democrat, but I’ll vote Republican until we rid ourselves of the unDemocratic traitorous treasonous autocrats that have taken over our party.
    If they do not respect a persons choice (for a vote), they certainly do not respect a persons right to choose (roe v. wade).

    Looks like little caesar just got served.

  531. MIDem, that’s an interesting observation (and one I believe was mentioned earlier) but I can play those sound tracks in my head, and it is clear to me which one is NOT freaky. The segue is very interesting in the internal boom box between my ears.

    I have audible visions of the Reichstag with your latter pick

  532. If you’re trying to decide between Obama and McCain, consider this:

    Both political parties are experiencing big, tumultuous change right now. The Republican party is suddenly being led by the anti-Bush, financially responsible, modern reformers. Despite being old in age, McCain is pushing his party forward.

    The Democratic party is being seized by a left-wing mob, intent on returning the party to its pre-1992 mistakes of bloated government programs, failed presidential bids, and academic/ivory tower campaigns.

    Which group do you want to be in?

  533. I was watching Paula Begala and others and they are worried to death that McCain/Palin might win this for the Republicans.

    They know they have a problem with women over 30 that will vote for this ticket and independents are the larger group anyhoo.

    The dems is in total meltdown because McCain took the wind out of Obama/Biden sails…

    Obama is TOAST!!

    The Dems have nobody to blame but themselves for this fiasco.

  534. t4h, Mr. Palin is part Native American – specifically a particular Eskimo tribe, I forget the name.

  535. I think that Obama has a lust for power that is frightening.
    What is even more frightening was watching how easily the public
    at large fell for it.
    I always wondered how people could fall for a dictator.
    Now I saw how easily it could be done.

    Thank you to all on this website for the information, the support
    and the tools to fight the real menace that is obama.


  536. Gergen on CNN is sweating bullets…all these turncoats Republicans know McCain has done it…he in the driver seat and the pundits need to keep silent if they don’t know much about Palin.

    Their ignorance is telling…they are treating her like this “hick from sticks” and I saw some bots write a comment about her non Ivy League schooling and being demissive about it.

  537. carby, I say keep it up, bots. Ridicule the small-town roots of this woman. That is going to REALLY win those pissed-off bitter middle America voters.

  538. I will find a McCain headquarters here in Cleveland and volunteer. I have a grilfriend who left the Democratic Party, she said the Republicans treated you better. She hasn’t looked back

  539. Palin seen as having ability to connect with voter, much like Bill Clinton
    The Seattle Times

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s selection as John McCain’s running mate Friday mystified many in the Lower-48. Even after a day of cable news overload, some still may wonder what the inexperienced politician from a distant state could bring to the ticket.

    The McCain camp played up Palin’s maverick credentials. She became governor after defeating an incumbent Republican whose administration was beset by ethical problems.

    In office, she continued to speak out about a growing Alaska political scandal that mostly hit Republicans, and took on the powerful oil industry.

    Palin, 44, is now facing questions about her own activities. The Alaska Legislature is investigating whether she abused her office to have her sister’s ex-husband fired as a state trooper.

    But in Alaska, friends and foes of Palin say McCain must have seen what they’ve known for the past few years: Palin has a preternatural ability to connect with voters and make them feel she cares.

    Think Bill Clinton – but an anti-abortion, snowmobile-riding, moose-hunting, mother of five Bill Clinton.

    “There’s just those people who you meet in life and in politics where immediately you are just drawn to them and want to be around them and you can feel that genuineness from her,” a lifelong family friend of Palin’s and a city councilman in Wasilla, the town where she got her start.

    “That’s what intoxicates Alaskans,” he said. “She can relate to our struggles and our own lives.”

    Her ability to connect with voters led Palin from Wasilla, an Anchorage suburb of 8,500 roughed-out of a valley north of the city, to the governor’s race in 2006.

    She beat incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski in the primary and former Democratic Gov. Tony Knowles in the general election.

    In office, Palin fought with the Alaska oil companies and Republican lawmakers over construction of a natural gas pipeline, pushing through her own plan.

    She raised oil taxes to get the state a bigger share of record industry revenues, then pushed through a plan to send every man, woman and child in the state an extra $1,200 on top of the estimated $2,000 oil dividend they will receive this year.

    Today Palin enjoys popularity ratings of more than 70 percent as governor.

    But there’s much about her elevation to presidential running mate that has some Alaskans scratching their heads.

    “I don’t get it,” said Andrew Halcro, a Republican who ran as an independent against Palin for governor.

    “But having said that, one thing I do know is that people made the mistake of underestimating her, at least underestimating that ability to connect with people,” he said, recalling the 2006 campaign.

    “It was amazing,” he said. “There were no public policy initiatives, no grasp of public policy. But people loved her.”

    Palin began her political career on the Wasilla City council in 1992 and was elected mayor four years later.

    She largely delivered on her promises, according to The Anchorage Daily News, but her stint as mayor was not without controversy. She replaced the city’s police chief and maneuvered to fill city council vacancies, angering some city leaders.

    In 2002 she lost a primary race for lieutenant governor.

    She made headlines in 2004 when she quit her position as chairwoman of the state Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees energy development on state lands, after reporting alleged ethical violations by a fellow commissioner, Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruederich.

    He later agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws.

    Palin’s public stand against ethical breeches “was huge” in the building of her reputation as a reformer, said Anchorage pollster Dave Dittman, who worked for Palin in her 2006 gubernatorial race.

    “It’s easy to pay lip-service to high ideals,” he said. “But that took it out of the realm of the poseur and established a great deal of trust with voters.”

    State Rep. Mike Doogan, a Democrat from Anchorage, says Palin has governed just as she ran: as an outsider. She focuses more on voters and reporters than on legislators, he said.

    That rings true for Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Wasilla. She has met with Palin only three times this year.

    “After the election there was a sort of veil that dropped and there was really been no way to be able to communicate,” Green said.

    Doogan, a former reporter and columnist at The Anchorage Daily news for many years, says Palin “won’t do deals.”

    “When people say it that way, it sounds like a good thing,” he said. “But frankly, in terms of running the government, it’s a handicap. She doesn’t want to do politics as usual but she doesn’t have another method other than beating the crap out of the Legislature.”

    The state Legislature currently is investigating allegations that Palin dismissed the state’s public safety director, allegedly after he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper – Palin’s former brother-in-law, involved in a child custody battle with her sister.

    “We are in the midst of quite a period of revelation and we don’t know where this will all lead,” Green said.

    When she heard Friday that Palin was McCain’s choice, Green said she wanted to call the campaign and “tell them they should have done more homework.”

    Palin’s reform standing also could get another test. Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens is running for re-election and awaiting trial on federal charges that he failed to properly report gifts and favors from a powerful Alaska oil man.

    People close to McCain think Palin is a strong critic of Stevens.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, told CNN Friday that Palin’s stand against Stevens qualifies her to conduct foreign affairs.

    “You look at people’s judgment,” Graham said. “You know, Governor Palin took on Ted Stevens. If she can take him on, she can take on the Russians.”

    But did she take on Stevens? Their shared pollster says that’s a serious misreading of Palin’s relationship with Stevens.

    “She’s a strong supporter of Senator Stevens,” said Dittman. He says Palin and Stevens have appeared together at campaign events and that she was close to issuing a formal endorsement of Stevens.

  540. S Says:
    in the meantime…Hillary for Senate Majority Leader?…that sounds good to me…Admin, is Hill on board with this?

    I”m not Admin but why should anyone bother Hillary with such questions now? Let’s just start shouting it. If it flops she doesnt’ lose face because she didn’t authorize it. If it goes over big, then she can decide whether she wants to get involved.

    It will show much more support if we just DO it than if it looks like she put us up to it!

    Let’s show them that PUMAs are not going away, that we’re up to something new, and always will be!

  541. palin refused to take up anti abortion bills in special session a few mos ago. right wingers were furious. it as a sessionon enrgy issues . she said some other time.

  542. g’night Hillfans.
    Tomorrow is a new fight.
    We will remind the dnc of the error of their ways.

    Every time they want Hillary to defend their chosen one, we will remind them that it was their choice, not ours.
    They did not support her, so she is no longer running.
    She did her part, now it is up to bambi to stand on his own.
    He can’t always expect someone to bail him out of his troubles,
    like a spoiled overgrown child.

  543. On last thing.
    This whole ‘one heartbeat away’ is so distasteful.
    If it were used against the petulant one, some may claim it was racist
    and even demand full apologies, rejections and repudiations.
    Again, the double standard seems to be the norm.

    God Bless you all, and God Bless America!

  544. Confloyd: great video by Paul

    Paul: great video on Palin

    Stalin: it doesn’t matter who votes. What matters is who COUNTS the votes.

    Comment: wise words from Uncle Joe. You are free to disagree and all it will cost you is a 1 way ticket to the uranium mines in Siberia

    Lesson: 1992: its the economy stupid. 2008 its the voting machines in swing states.

  545. From one of Sugar’s posters:

    Obama lied again. This man is a pathological liar.

    In a 2002 anti-war speech, Obama told the audience, “My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.”

    But in his autobiography, “Dreams of My Father,” Obama states his grandfather never engaged in combat.

    “Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family moved to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill,” he writes. “But the classroom couldn’t contain his ambitions, his restlessness, and so the family moved again.”

  546. Every time they want Hillary to defend their chosen one, we will remind them that it was their choice, not ours.
    They did not support her, so she is no longer running.
    She did her part, now it is up to bambi to stand on his own.
    He can’t always expect someone to bail him out of his troubles,
    like a spoiled overgrown child.
    Yes, yes, yes. She can sell her own candidacy to white blue collary workers. But she cannot sell a charlatan like Obama to them. If theres selling to be done its his job. And leave the teleprompter behind.

  547. Palin a good choice, Central Texas Republicans say
    Several don’t know VP nominee but applaud what they’ve seen so far.
    By Jason Embry


    Saturday, August 30, 2008

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is a mostly unknown figure to key local Republicans. But so far, they say, they like what they see.

    “I am overwhelmed with this young lady,” U.S. Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, said Friday after watching Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, announce Palin as his pick for vice president.

    Carter said he had never seen Palin speak until she appeared with McCain in Dayton, Ohio, on Friday. Although McCain’s campaign has questioned whether Democratic first-term Sen. Barack Obama is ready to be president, Republicans expressed no such worries about the first-term governor.

    “God forbid, if something happened to President McCain, I think she’d be up to the job,” Carter said.

    Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004. Palin was elected governor in 2006 after serving as mayor of Wasilla, a city with fewer than 10,000 residents. Republicans said that her short time in statewide office has been in an executive job.

    “The presidency is an executive office and the governorship is an executive office and certainly that prepares her better than being one of 100 in the Senate, particularly if you’ve been in the Senate less than four years,” said U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, a Republican from San Antonio who represents parts of western and central Travis County.

    Smith said he’d hoped that McCain would pick either a qualified woman (Palin fits the bill, he said) or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, whom Smith supported in the GOP primary. He and others said they hope Palin will appeal to women who wanted Sen. Hillary Clinton on the Democratic ticket.

    “We just finished about two years of a lot of the people in this country telling us they wanted a woman on the ticket,” Carter said. “The Democratic party rejected a woman.”

    Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin, said the pick brings youth and energy to the ticket and proves McCain is willing to take an unconventional approach.

    Texas Railroad Commissioner Elizabeth Ames Jones, a Republican, said she was at a conference this year where Palin gave a speech, hopped on a plane back to Alaska and gave birth to her son.

    “She’s so tough, she could be a Texan,” Jones said.

  548. Texas Railroad Commissioner Elizabeth Ames Jones, a Republican, said she was at a conference this year where Palin gave a speech, hopped on a plane back to Alaska and gave birth to her son.

    “She’s so tough, she could be a Texan,” Jones said.

    I TOLD you guys Texans would love her! Texans LOVE strong women!

  549. NewMexicoFan Says: just as we have said before, when we saw her after she had suspended her campaign, all we saw was this POW with a gun to her head being forced to do things.


    If we make her Senate Majority Leader, then maybe they can’t force her any more.

    We’ve got … what … two months to do that? Ie to work on the Senators who are up for re-election this November, to get their pledges to support her.

    That’s 1/3 of the Senators.

    Will Bower is starting this, I should go look at pumapac.

  550. Sarah Palin
    posted by melanievox 08/29/2008 10:44:07 PM EST

    OK. This is the most incredible thing I have ever seen.

    John McCain picking a former beauty queen who loves guns and hates abortionists enough to think they deserve prison.

    Sarah Palin never had any foreign policy experience, is the Governor of Alaska (how many people live in Alaska?) She uses Hillary Clinton and her “18 billion cracks in the glass ceiling” and people are going to go for her?

    Only a religious zealot would vote for someone like that.

    That’s right. You gals out there, make sure that you pop out those babies even if you are living below the poverty line and then we can send them off to war when they get old enough. Be the first on your street to see your kid come home in a box. Ah! What a great country. God Bless America.

    That is NOT the America I’m proud of. Are Republicans just completely insane? control freaks? war-mongers? psychotically selfish? Anti-constitution? Want to rule the world?

    And what about this PUMAs. They’re not going to vote for Obama because why? Now their going to vote for McCain?

    They sound like spoiled little teenage girls that got stood up for their prom. I’m a woman, and I’m ashamed of them as women. They are real pieces of work. They need therapy. They want to sell their own country down the river because their girlfriend didn’t get picked.

    Please, we have to get Obama and Biden elected. We’re sunk if we don’t

  551. What I love the most, about this announcement of Palin: It knocked BO off the news. Who is talking about the speech? Now, not as much as they would have doing, if McCain did not make his VP announcement. How many times did BO knock Hillary out of the news cycle after one of her big wins? Too many times. I bet, he is not happy about this.

  552. On last thing.
    This whole ‘one heartbeat away’ is so distasteful
    I think Palin is a fast thinker. I know Bambi is a pontificator. I know Biden is a bloviator.

    So which of the three do you really want. This forces bambi to make the argument that experience in washington dc is important.

    The compliant press will say things like he has shifted his position, or explored new vistas, or expanded his vision.

    The Republicans will say he is as full of shit as a Christmas goose–or as ABM 90 would say always mindful of native American wisdom–eagle who walks because he is too full of it to fly.

  553. Wow, the Democratic? Taliban Party is really, really upset!

    Reaction to Palin Selection

    Sarah Palin By Betsey Bruce

    (KTVI – myFOXstl) — Reaction to Senator John McCain’s pick for vice president is ranging from “brilliant” to “risky.” A Missouri Republican leader called the selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin “bold” and “out of the box.” At the same time Missouri’s Democratic party chairman deemed it “perplexing” and a “mistake.” Palin will join McCain and other top Republicans for a rally Sunday in O’Fallon, MO.

    Palin comes with limited experience having served 20 months as governor of a small state. Before that she was chairwoman of the state’s Oil and Gas Commission where she took on her own party and exposed a fellow Republican commissioner on ethics violations. She has also served as a small town mayor . In April, Palin gave birth to her fifth child. McCain described her as a reformer who will help him “shake up” Washington and help him fight the “same old Washington politics that puts ‘me’ first and ‘country’ second.

    Democrats have pointed to her limited experience and questioned her preparation for the presidency. Missouri Republican spokesman John Hancock disagreed. He pointed out Palin stood up to entrenched Republicans, defeated them and has reformed the state government. “That’s a tremendous resume from which to run for vice president,” Hancock said.

    Chairman of Missouri’s Democratic party John Temporiti said it is “terrifying and perplexing” to think that she would be a heart beat away from the presidency. A spokesman for the Democratic party described her selection as a “desperate attempt to convince voters hungry for real change that John McCain would provide something other than four more years of George Bush’s policies.”

    Webster University political science professor Bill Hall recognized her lack of experience but said, ” it may be a brilliant move” since the campaign w