The Phantom Menace

Update II: She’s still alive. Still fighting. Things still look very bleak.

Update: Our hearts break. The wonderful and brave Stephanie Tubbs-Jones is dead. Many days and nights during this year, especially the tough nights, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones sustained us. She was a fighter like Hillary. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones could not be intimidated. She stood by Hillary and principle. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones also worked on voting rights with Hillary and fought the good fight for Ohio voters in the aftermath of the 2004 election. We’ll miss you Stephanie.

Fights of Angels sing thee to thy rest.

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[Our best wishes to Stephanie Tubbs-Jones who is in the hospital today. A brave woman who has proven once again this year how courageous she is.]

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There is a Phantom Menace stalking Barack Obama.

Today Maureen Dowd types another of her Hillary hallucinations. As Bob Somersby has detailed for many year, Dowd’s poison of choice is to imagine imaginary conversations to attack Democrats. Today, again, Hillary Clinton is the target.

Dowd colorfully imagines Hillary Clinton and John McCain sharing “celebratory shots of brutally cold Stolichnaya” vodka as they politically bury Barack Obama. Dowd’s poison is notable today only in that it informs us of how Big Media now sees their tool, Barack Obama.

They chortle with delight.

“He’s a bright young man, but he got ahead of himself,” McCain says. “He needs to be taught a lesson, and we’re the ones to do it. Have you seen the new Bloomberg poll? Obama’s dropped and we’re even again. [snip]

Looking pleased, Hillary expertly downs another shot. “His secret fear is being seen as a dumb blonde,” she says. “He wants to take a short cut to the top and pose on glossy magazine covers, but he doesn’t want to be seen as a glib pretty boy.”

McCain lifts his glass to her admiringly. “If I do say so myself, while the rookie was surfing in Hawaii, I ate his pupus for lunch. Pictures of him pushing around a golf ball while I’m pushing around Putin. Priceless.” [snip]

And you don’t have to worry about my army of angry women. We’ve spread the word in the feminist underground — as opposed to that wacky Obama Weather Underground — that ‘catharsis’ is code for ‘No surrender.’ My gals know when I say ‘We may have started on two separate paths but we’re on one journey now’ that Skinny’s journey is to the nearest exit.”

“But Obama’s says he’s finally ready to hit back,” McCain says, frowning. “He’s starting a blistering TV campaign and attacking me for attacking his patriotism.”

“Now, John, you know that every time he tries to get tough, he quickly runs out of gas. Sometimes in debates, he’d be exhausted by the third question. He must use up all his energy in the gym. He doesn’t have any stamina, and he certainly doesn’t have our bloodlust. [snip]

“You can announce that you won’t be running for re-election because you’d be 76, and you can pick somebody really lame to run with, like your pal Lieberman. That means one term for you, and two for me.”

“It’s a deal,” McCain says, sticking out his hand to shake on it. “That was inspired to snatch his convention away — makes him look so weak. Listen, why don’t you stop in Sedona on the way to Denver? Wear a black wig and I’ll spirit you up to the cabin for the night. I’ll catch a catfish in the mill pond and grill it for you. It will be an adventure.” There’s a knock on the door. Jesse Jackson sticks his head into the meeting.

“Is it over?” he asks his co-conspirators.

“Yes, he’s over,” they respond in unison.

The internet Hopium dens stop chanting. They are silent, listening. They see a dark shadow darken their caves. They sense the presence of the Phantom Menace. The chanting murmers begin again, quietly, nervously.

Will more nerves be rattled if we disclose much earlier meetings, much much earlier conversations, much earlier planning, much more Carly and Tony – that we have known of? Or will this notification from today suffice?

A brother of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and local Democrats who backed her unsuccessful presidential campaign socialized privately Monday with a top surrogate of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain.

The private gathering featured Carly Fiorina, Mr. McCain’s top economic adviser, and took place at the Dunmore home of political consultant Jamie Brazil, a longtime friend of Mrs. Clinton’s family who has signed on as paid national director of Mr. McCain’s Citizens for McCain Coalition.

The attendees included Tony Rodham, Mrs. Clinton’s youngest sibling, his wife, Megan, and their two children; attorney Kathleen Granahan Kane, who coordinated Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign in Northeast Pennsylvania during the primary election; and Virginia McGregor, sister of Scranton Mayor Chris Doherty.

With the Democratic National Convention less than a week away, the gathering raises questions about the support Illinois Sen. Barack Obama can expect from former local supporters of Mrs. Clinton, who dominated at the polls in the Northeast in the April primary election. Mrs. Clinton won 74 percent of Lackawanna County Democrats to Mr. Obama’s 26 percent.

Ms. Fiorina’s daylong local visit, part of a two-day bus tour of the state, was aimed at talking disenchanted former supporters of Mrs. Clinton into supporting Mr. McCain. The private gathering was not a fundraiser. [snip]

Mrs. Kane said her presence at the gathering should not be read as a sign of support for Mr. McCain.

“I don’t know. I’m not sure. I’m trying to get as much information as I can on both of them,” she said when asked if she’s backing Mr. McCain. “I would have loved to see her as president. We still have a week to go. You never know what’s going to happen at the convention. I think she would be a fantastic choice (for vice president).”

The shadow of the Phantom Menace once again falls over the shaking denizens of the Hopium dens. Silence reigns as fear grows. The chanting picks up slowly again in front of alters marked “hope” and “change” and “new politics” and “new voters” and “registrations” and “new coalition” and “death to old winning coalition” and “red state victories” and “expanded map” and “landslide… landslide…landslide”.

More silence. The shadow of the Phantom Menace grows darker.

The fear grows as the Hopium loses potency.

In what could be an ominous sign for Barack Obama just days before he is formally named the Democratic presidential nominee, a new CNN poll of polls out Tuesday shows the Illinois senator’s lead over John McCain has been cut in half in recent days.

According to CNN’s average of several recent national surveys, Obama’s lead is now a slim 3 points over the Arizona senator, 46-43 percent — half of his advantage in a CNN poll of polls one week ago, and down from a high of 8 points in mid-July.

The latest poll results come amid increased attacks from McCain on Obama’s readiness to be commander-in-chief and the re-emergence of national security worries among voters in the wake of the Georgia crisis. [snip]

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll out Tuesday evening was the latest national survey to indicate Obama’s lead is dwindling, putting the Illinois senator ahead of McCain by only 2 points, well within the poll’s margin of error. The CNN Poll of polls also includes new surveys from Quinnipiac and Gallup.

Darker and darker, the shadow of the Phantom Menace:

In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama’s solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll. [snip]

McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy — an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election. [snip]

Obama’s support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.

“Conservatives were supposed to be the bigger problem for McCain,” Zogby said. “Obama still has work to do on his base. At this point McCain seems to be doing a better job with his.”

The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.

Tracking polls, national polls, state polls are moving to the Arizona senator. The shadow of the Phantom Menance spreads from state to state. News from Minnesota is not good as the race tightens to 47%-45%.

The land of Ohio increasingly lost.

Missouri, according to a Democratic polling firm, is gone from Obama too. McCain is in a double digit lead there. Indiana is gone too. The shadow grows.

The only light for Obama is the investigative light. How little Americans know about Obama is clear. How little Obama knows about Obama becomes clearer. Meanwhile Obama relatives continue to pop up. The bedraggled Obama family is coming into focus.

The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate’s half-brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be more different than that of the Democratic contender.

“No-one knows who I am,” he told the magazine, before claiming: “I live here on less than a dollar a month.” [snip]

Vanity Fair also noted that he had a front page newspaper picture of his famous brother – born of the same father as him, Barack Hussein Obama, but to a different mother, named only as Jael. [snip]

He has only met his famous older brother twice – once when he was just five and the last time in 2006 when Senator Obama was on a tour of East Africa and visited Nairobi. [snip]

“I have seen two of my friends killed. I have scars from defending myself with my fists. I am good with my fists.”

Am I My Brother’s Keeper? How little Americans know about Obama.

The very prestigious Battleground poll has 75% of Americans saying the country is on the “wrong track” and McCain beating Obama. The question “Who was your first choice for President during the time when the primary elections and caucuses began? Obama 21%, Hillary 23%, Edwards 5%. More and more Democrats who voted for Obama are shamed of their vote. Hillary grows in strength.

The Real Clear Politics Electoral College assessment now has McCain at 274 electoral votes. Only 270 electoral votes are needed to win in NOvember.

Why is the shadow falling over Obama? The pompous presumptive Obama presidential seal, the pompous presumptive Obama European Vacation, the attempt to smear John McCain the way he smeared Hillary Clinton by shouting “racist”, the mess which was the contrast of callow Obama and experienced McCain at Saddleback, the ill timed additional Hawaiian vacation, not to mention the incessant flip-flop-flim-flams on FISA and oil drilling and the rest.

The Phantom Menace that throws a growing shaddow on the not qualified, race-baiting, and gay-bashing, and woman hating, Barack Obama – is NOT Hillary Clinton.

Right now Hillary Clinton grows in power. Hillary Clinton is the only force that can salvage the atrocity which is the Barack Obama campaign. Hillary Clinton could easily get the “sniffles” and avoid the Denver convention and thereby decapitate the Obama campaign. Hillary Clinton clearly is the only one who can save the suicidal Democratic Party as the atrocity which is the Barack Obama campaign falls further and further into shadow.

If the Superdelegates do wake up to their pending destruction before next week’s vote in Denver it would serve them well if Hillary Clinton would walk away from them.

It would teach a great lesson to the authors (Dean/Brazile/Pelosi/Kennedy/Kerry) of the Obama atrocity if Hillary Clinton would refuse to rescue the Democratic Party as it becomes clearer and clearer they are on board the Titantic.

Hillary Clinton is not the Phantom Menace.

The American Voter is watching as Barack Obama proves every day he is not qualified to be president.

The Phantom Menace stalking Obama is the American Voter.

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415 thoughts on “The Phantom Menace

  1. Voters simply do not like Obama, the more they learn about him. He is the weakest Democratic general election candidate of our lifetimes.

  2. Myself I hope to GOD that she refuses to rescue them, and does not take the VP slot if offered. PLEASE, Hillary, say NO!!!!!

    Do not bail their sorry asses out. DON’T DO IT! Let the Messiah stand or fall on his own merits. He wanted the damn nomination, let him carry it on his own or go down in flames.

  3. Admin: This is absolutely a fantastic post!! IT would serve them right not to help them, let them sink, afterall Bill and Hillary’s legacy is intact and it is a magnificant legacy!

  4. Looks like it’s probably Bayh, after all. What a boring pick. From Politico:

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    Report says top officials from Obama’s campaign will converge in Indianapolis Sunday for a “major event.”

  5. The Honorable Man VS The Con Artist

    PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICANS….A vote for the car salesman (con artist) is a vote for over 20 years of personal relationship with REZKO, Wright, Ayers, and Farahkhan…He is an empty suit; he can say anything to get elected. This rookie is a big PHONY. ….I’m tired of all his rhetoric…..The more I listen to this guy the more I hate him……He can not be trusted…

    A flip-flopper to get an experience! He voted “present” for more a hundred times, because he did not know how to vote “Yes or No” …WOW, this guy is a totally a joke!

    Remember Muslim’s sons are for life. Blood is sticker than water. He can say any thing and he can run BUT he can not hide.

    I was a lifelong Democrat, but now Independent. I will never vote for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.

    Please don’t be fooled by a car salesman. ….As a patriotic American; I don’t care if you are a Democrats or Republicans, we deserve an honorable man like Sen. McCain.

    If you believed everything this car salesman said, you are fool.

    Go for HRC 2012…..HRC 2012

  6. After all the b.s. smack-talk from the Obama-bots during the primary season about the Clintons’ tarnished legacies, I can’t wait to gloat in November: what will OBAMA’S legacy be? Oh yeah, that’s right: he had the most winnable Presidential election gift-wrapped and handed to him, along with mountains of cash, and he fumbled the ball at the one-yard line and blew the election. Great legacy.

  7. Sad news folks

    “Stephanie Tubbs Jones removed from life support at 12:19 p.m”

    God rest her soul.

  8. Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died, sources say
    Posted by Plain Dealer staff August 20, 2008 13:00PM
    Categories: Breaking News, News Impact

    U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first African-American woman to represent Ohio in Congress, has died after suffering a brain aneurysm, said sources familiar with the situation.

    She was removed from life support at 12:19 p.m. at Huron Road Hospital, the sources said.

  9. This is a truly a very sad day. My thoughts and prayers are with her family. The country has lost an outstanding, and selfless public servant

  10. Now what was that Obama was saying about lobbyists then?

    Caught and caught lying hard!

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/20/1278270.aspx

    OBAMA ADVISER LOBBIED FOR OIL GROUP

    Obama’s newly named senior adviser and Jewish outreach coordinator, who joined Obama on his trip to Israel, lobbied on behalf of the American Petroleum Institute, according to the Senate Office of Public Records Lobbying Disclosure Act database.

    Daniel Shapiro is listed as a lobbyist by Washington, D.C.-based Timmons & Co. and API is one of the company’s clients. Shapiro is listed on five entries as one person who helped lobby the U.S. Senate or House on behalf of API on issues ranging from agriculture, energy — including renewable fuel standards and greenhouse gas emissions, gas price gouging and regulation, labor and antitrust related to the oil industry, defense, the stimulus package, the farm bill, IRS code regarding refineries and more.

    Obama’s newly named senior adviser and Jewish outreach coordinator, who joined Obama on his trip to Israel, lobbied on behalf of the American Petroleum Institute, according to the Senate Office of Public Records Lobbying Disclosure Act database.

    Daniel Shapiro is listed as a lobbyist by Washington, D.C.-based Timmons & Co. and API is one of the company’s clients. Shapiro is listed on five entries as one person who helped lobby the U.S. Senate or House on behalf of API on issues ranging from agriculture, energy — including renewable fuel standards and greenhouse gas emissions, gas price gouging and regulation, labor and antitrust related to the oil industry, defense, the stimulus package, the farm bill, IRS code regarding refineries and more.

    read the rest and their shitty response……………..

  11. Stephanie Tubbs Jones was one of my HEROES! Even when tough for her, she stood with grace and backbone and was with Hillary all the way! That absolutely could not have been easy as we witnessed the strongarming tactics used on Hillary delegates, but she never complained. And she could light up a room with that beautiful smile!!! Now she lights up a better place, and maybe she can now whisper into someone’s ear to protect and uplift our Hillary! God rest her soul.

  12. Oh, this is such sad news about Rep. Tubb Jones. I join those here sending thoughts and prayers to her family. She is such a courageous soul!

    Amazing essay, Admin. Thank you. There must be an outcry in response to these bizarre, Noonan-esque fantasies from the delusional Dowd. I can’t believe her editor allowed that to be printed. What in the world has happened to journalism?

    Good morning, voters! Wake up, super delegates! The alarm went off hours ago!

  13. Oh I am so sorry to hear about Stephanie Tubbs Jones. God rest her soul indeed. What a heartbreaking loss. I had the opportunity to see her in DC at an event for Hillary. She was vivacious and fun and committed. Her dedication to and love for Hillary was so apparent. She was a great congresswoman and friend to her constituents and to this country. My prayers are with her family and friends and my heart breaks for them.

  14. I am so upset, my congresswoman Stepenie Tubbs Jones has died. The hospital where she is at is right around the corner from me. People are all over the place. This is a very sad day for District 11.

  15. Hillary must be inconsolable. They shared so much fighting for women, democracy, and all of us.

  16. —-
    Election 2008: Ohio Presidential Election:
    Ohio Still Swinging McCain’s Way

    Wednesday, August 20, 2008
    rasmussen.com

    Ohio, the ultimate swing state in Election 2004, continues to lean in John McCain’s direction, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state.

    McCain attracts 45% of the vote in Ohio while Obama earns 41%. That’s little changed from a month ago when McCain led 46% to 40%.

    When “leaners” are included in the totals, McCain leads Obama 48% to 43%.

    The most discouraging number in the poll for Obama may be the fact that 51% of Ohio voters have an unfavorable opinion of the presumptive Democratic nominee. That figure includes 33% with a Very Unfavorable opinion, up six percent from a month ago.

  17. diff between Fox and CNN:

    10 mins ago

    Fox News – ongoing coverage of breaking news on Stephanie Tubbs Jones death, and will be broadcasting briefing at top of the hour

    CNN – covering the online “betting” on VP sweepstakes – Kathleen Silbelius winning (how out of touch are the Obots?) and will be covering briefing about STJ online

  18. Last time i saw Stephanie was at Cleveland State I told her how proud i was of her for standing up for what she believed. She said when she makes a promise to someone she keeps her promise. I thanked her for supporting Hillary

  19. Neetabug, I am so glad that you had a chance to meet her and thank her in person. She was a great woman. What a sad day this is.

  20. We updated today’s article with a small tribute to Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. She was not only a fighter for Hillary. She fought for voter rights. We sincerely will miss her. We had some fun times with her from earlier battles, fighting side by side, shoulder to shoulder.

    Neetabug, thanks for helping elect this great woman. Whenever there was a fight to be fought in Ohio, the answer was always “Call Stephanie.” Our condolences to her family and great congressional staff too.

  21. 🙁

    Rep. Tubbs Jones Dies From Brain Injury
    washingtonpost.com

    Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a key figure in Ohio Democratic politics and the chairwoman of the House ethics committee, died today at a Cleveland hospital after suffering an apparent ruptured aneurysm while driving Tuesday night, according to a Democratic source. She was 58.

    Tubbs Jones was found by police unconscious at the wheel of her car Tuesday night, after officers noticed her vehicle swerving erratically. She was taken to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland, where she reportedly never regained consciousness. Her office released a statement earlier today saying that she had an aneurysm, or dilated blood vessel, apparently in her brain. Dr. Michael Lim, an assistant professor of neurosurgery, at The Johns Hopkins University Hospital, said the injury was most likely a “ruptured aneurysm,” meaning the blood vessel burst.

    Tubbs Jones has represented parts of Cleveland and its suburbs since 1998. A former prosecutor and judge, she has chaired the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct since the start of the 110th Congress.

    Tubbs Jones is the first black woman to represent Ohio in Congress. She was a strong supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) during the Democratic presidential primary but later switched to back Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.). Like her fellow Democratic members of Congress, she is scheduled to be a superdelegate at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

  22. She’s still fighting. She’s still alive. You can never, never count Stephanie out until Stephanie says so – like Hillary.

  23. My thoughts are with the family of Congresswomen Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. What a heartbreak story. She seemed like such a warm and sincere person. Senator Clinton must be heartbroken.

    Admin: Fantastic post. Love your style of writing, and the “biting” touch.

  24. Admin,

    You must be reading minds. Your tribute to Jones was great and right on.

    In addition, you took what was coming into the blog, and made a fantastic article out of it adding much richness, and weaving it togethere with The Phantom Menace.

    You have done an outstanding job.

    I am proud to say I am one of the Phantoms.

  25. STJ stood on the floor of Congress and PLEADED with those spineless Dems to challenge the Ohio vote in 2004. She was a freaking WARRIOR. She had character and courage.

    Neetabug, the folks in your district must be just sick over this. Prayers for you all.

  26. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones Dead
    August 20th, 2008 by mkovac

    It was announced during an unrelated Statehouse press conference a few minutes ago that Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones has passed away after suffering a brain aneurysm.

    Here’s something from Strickland on it:

    Columbus, Ohio – Governor Ted Strickland today issued the following statement on the loss of US Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones:

    “Frances and I are heartbroken to learn of the passing of Congresswomen Stephanie Tubbs Jones. We served together in the Congress, where I witnessed her passionate and selfless commitment to her constituents. I am grateful for the opportunity to have called Stephanie my colleague, and I am proud to have called her my friend. Our friendship deepened during the long primary season as we worked together for Senator Clinton. Stephanie was a strong, courageous and compassionate advocate for the poor and vulnerable. Our thoughts and prayers are with her family and the people of Ohio’s 11th Congressional District during this difficult time.”

    blogs.dixcdn.com/capitalblog/?p=4103
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    What a beautiful spirit and true role model. There are some people who light shine so bright and is a blessing to those touched by that light, she will be truly missed.

    May God rest her soul and grant peace to her family and friends.

  27. HillaryforTexas

    Yes, I remember also. It was She and other AAs that stood up and showed the guts and courage the rest of the DNC should have shown.

    Thank you for remembering it. She is obviously a person of great courage.

  28. From previous article:

    # moononpluto Says:
    August 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Obama is going to be like one of those boy bands ((New Kids on the block, Minudo).
    &&&&&

    I don’t know what Menudo sounds like, and New Kids is not my thing…but I’ll admit that NewKids are talented singers who also dance well, and probably have outstanding teeth. The point is, they got where they are with a decent dose of talent.

    Obama, like Sanjaya on American Idol, is out of his league, and only got past the first few rounds because the judges enjoyed the ratings and excitement Sanjaya and his fans brought. But eventually, the lack of talent did Sanjaya in.

    And like Sanjaya, who had his teary-eyed pre-teen, Obama has Crying Girl. “Just leave Obama alone”.

    Ahem…That’s what we’re trying to do.

  29. apparently it is up to Stephanie and god now.

    I told a friend of my mine many years ago, that while I’m not especially spiritual, that I thought that angels are right here on earth with us. Stephanie Tubb Jones is no doubt one of them.

  30. I’m very confused now. The page says she’s still alive. The reported death was wrong…

    h t t p : // thepage.time.com/

    At a press conference, the hospital says the Congresswoman has not died, as reported earlier.
    The Ohio Representative suffered an aneurysm while driving in her district Tuesday.

  31. NewMexicoFan, it was mostly AA’s and women who fought that fight. The white men rolled over. Funny how groups who have been disenfranchised in history seem to view their vote as sacred, to be protected.

  32. conflictng reports Stephanie Tubss Jones not dead

    Doctors just had a press conference on the dreaded CNN she is critical but not dead apparently no brain activity

  33. Do you remember how she stood up. Rememer how the DNC caved, and kind of looked at her like, what is she doing, not folding in.

    We should have made her the leader of the DNC.

    Ms. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, I am hoping that God give you grace, and the all the rewards you deserve.

  34. Yes, NMF, I remember. I was crying, because I was (excuse my French) so FUCKING proud of that woman in that moment. That’s courage.

  35. Doctors and Family: Tubbs Jones on life support
    By Jared Allen
    Posted: 08/20/08 02:49 PM [ET]

    After suffering a massive aneurysm while behind the wheel Tuesday night in Cleveland, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-Ohio) is in critical condition and on life support, according to her doctors at Huron Hospital in Cleveland.

    Doctors joined her family at the hospital to tell reporters that Tubbs Jones had “very limited brain function.” They asked for friends to pray for her.

    WOIO in Cleveland had reported earlier Wednesday that Tubbs Jones was “for all intents and purposes dead when they brought her into the hospital,” but the hospital spokesmen at the news conference would only say that her brain function was severely limited and that the lawmaker was still on a ventilator and life support.

    Officials from Tubbs Jones office have not been available since 11 a.m. this morning.

    It was not clear when hospital officials or family or staff of Tubbs Jones would provide an update on her condition.

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/doctors-and-family-tubbs-jones-on-life-support-2008-08-20.html

  36. Russia is not taking things lying down. Breaking ties with NATO. This puts foreign policy back on the front burner and helps McCain.

  37. admin, maybe if someone had ever actually convened the NATO Foreign Affairs subcommittee in the Senate, and done their job, this might have been headed off.

    Who was chair of that committee again? Oh, right, he was too busy building his hopey-changey image to do his JOB.

  38. Hillaryfor Texas: McCain should highlight that the NATO Foreign Affairs subcommitte was never held, because the head of the group, was too busy campaigning. Hmm….should go over very well (not). No need to have meetings. Just chant, Hope and Change, and a new kind of politics. Doesn’t look like Putin is listening.

  39. i met jones here in tx and hillary. she gave me hug. wodnerfullady in the mold of jackson lee she was threatened daily by obamabots in her district. they were so cruel to her. i hope her passing brings new courage to vote for hillary in denver

  40. And BO thinks he’s gonna be able to unite the party with somebody other than Hillary. what a delusional creep. what a dangerous egomaniac. But we;ve covered all that before. The world feels like a much more dangerous place right now. It definately is a sadder place.

    God bless Stephanie Tubbs Jones. And God bless her good friend Hillary Clinton. I remember calling her office to thank her for her support of Hillary. I am so sorry for this loss.

  41. there may not have been any foul play, but I still hope that this sad episode re: STJ could trigger some media coverage of the threats to her as part of how much she endured to support Hillary.

    I am angry that the media, other than Fox, never covers the death threats to Hillary supporters and vocal surrogates.

  42. Russia are determined to destabailise the former russian satellites, this is not good. We are looking at a protracted fight with the soviet bear and quite frankly Obama is fucked if this plays out the way i think it will because we are going to need a hawk in that WH, if Russia decides to no longer play nice which frankly i think it is very capable of doing.

    Russia is determined to have another cold war.

  43. Anyone else want to guess about a russian base and a few nukes in Venezuela. Russia certainly has been making friends there.

  44. Admin: Thankyou for that video clip. What a courageous woman. She knew how to fire up a crowd! What a loss. We need people with her strength, fighting spirit, courage, and sense of justice. This is very sad.

  45. Oh yes…my judgment is so good….I did not have to hold any NATO subcommitte meetings..

    Anyway what is the big deal…if I do not do the job, somebody on the “above my pay grade” will do the job!!!..

    BIDEN!!!! You should have done this for me!!!!!

  46. I loved the way STJ waved – with such vigor, enthusiasm and sense of humor.

    a Hillary supporter sent this to me – just video footage of STJ:

    youtube.com/watch?v=b2PWxZQ8ce8

  47. On RealClearPolitics Electoral College:

    (no toss-up states)

    John McCain – 274
    Barack Obama – 264

    h t t p : / /w w w .realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

  48. NEETABUG:
    Thinking of you and know we are both sending out prayers for Stephanie Tubbs Jones. Neeta and I are both Clevelanders and know how great this woman is.

    Another note, I just can’t get it together to go to Denver next week, want to meet for Hillary’s speech somewhere? Or roll call???

  49. Enough said!

    http://www.primetimepolitics.com/primetime/blog/page/the_media_turns_a_blind_eye/

    Half a million dollars had been donated from overseas by unidentified people “not employed”.

    Digging deeper, all sorts of very bizarre activity jumped at us. Dr and JJ continued to break it down and pull data from various sources. We found Rebecca Kurth contributed $3,137.38 to the Obama Campaign in 112 donations, including 34 separate donations recorded in one day,

    How about this gibberish donor on the 30th of April in 2008.

    A donor named Hbkjb, jkbkj

    City: Jkbjnj Works for: Kuman Bank (doesn’t exist)

    Occupation: Balanon Jalalan Amount: $1,077.23

    or the donor Doodad, The # of transactions = 1,044

    The $ contributed = $10,780.00

    This Doodad character works for FDGFDGF and occupation is DFGFDG

    The more questions we answered the more questions we discovered.

  50. Klein: Obama adviser travels to Syria. Urges Damascus to speed up talks aimed at Israeli retreat from strategic Golan Heights
    Filed under: Barack Obama — Tags: Aaron Klein, AIPAC, America-Israel Public Affairs Committee, bamboozle, Barack Obama, Bashar Assad, Benjamin Netanyahu, British Syrian Society, Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations, Damascus, Daniel Kurtzer, Fawaz Akhras, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Islamic Jihad, Israel, John McCain, Lebanon, Michael Goldfarb, Morris Amitay, Morton Klein, Moscow, Obama, Palestine, Palestinian Authority, PLO, politics, Real Barack Obama, Russia, Syria, terrorism, terrorist, The Real Barack Obama, Walid al-Moallem, WND, Yasser Arafat, Yitzhak Shamir, Zionist Organization of America — Procrustes @ 3:00 pm
    A key foreign policy adviser to Sen. Barack Obama has traveled to Damascus where he reportedly urged Syrian officials to fast-track negotiations with the Israel, it has emerged, Aaron Klein, WorldNetDaily’s Jerusalem bureau chief, reported August 20, 2008.

    Both Israel and Syria last May announced they were holding indirect talks aimed in part at an Israeli evacuation of most of the Golan Heights, which looks down on Israeli population centers and was twice used by Damascus to mount ground invasions into the Jewish state.

    The talks have been progressing at a very slow pace, with Syrian President Bashar Assad in Russia today discussing military cooperation between Damascus and Moscow.

    But Daniel Kurtzer, a top adviser to Obama on Israeli-Palestinian affairs who visited Syria last month, has reportedly offered Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem some advice:

    “I urged him to move ahead in the Israel-Syria negotiations as much as possible so that whoever is the next president would not start from too far down the track,” Kurtzer disclosed yesterday in an interview with the NY Sun.

    “I did not say anything about Obama or McCain. I said whoever is the next president is not going to want to inherit a process that isn’t going anywhere,” Kurtzer said.

    He stressed he was not in Damascus as part of Obama’s campaign but instead as a private expert attending an international lawyers conference co-sponsored by British organizations and arranged by the British Syrian Society, which is chaired by Dr. Fawaz Akhras, the father of the wife of Syrian President Assad. The conference was aimed at aiding Syria develop legal programs and expand international contacts for the country’s lawyers.

    Kurtzer last month joined Obama in his visit to Israel. Kurtzer is a high profile Obama adviser on Mideast affairs identified by Israeli diplomatic sources as likely to become Obama’s envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian issue if the Illinois senator wins the presidency. It is unlikely Syrian officials did not associate Kurtzer with Obama’s campaign in their talks with him.

    Kurtzer said he informed the Obama campaign of his trip to Damascus.

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/klein-obama-adviser-travels-to-syria-urges-damascus-to-speed-up-talks-aimed-at-israeli-retreat-from-strategic-golan-heights/

  51. Stephanie Tubb Jones,

    One of our finest, most courageous and brilliant stars.

    Our fearless warrior-goddess.

    At least she didn’t suffer; at least she had her feisty strength until the end.
    But this is a terrible loss for the rest of us.
    😥

  52. According to some poster on another site (not to be named here), we are all souless bitches who delighted in Ted Kennedy’s death.

    I missed the memo, I guess. When did Kennedy die?

  53. Kennedy died? Who knew?

    As I recall, most on here expressed sympathy when his tumor was diagnosed.

  54. As convention nears, McGovern stands by Clinton

    By John J. Monahan TELEGRAM & GAZETTE STAFF
    jmonahan@telegram.com

    2 comments | Add a comment

    With Sen. Barack Obama set to name a running mate on the Democratic ticket by Saturday, U.S. Rep. James P. McGovern, D-Worcester, who served as a top advisor to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign, said today he still believes she would be the best choice as a running mate.

    “If Sen. Obama called me up today and said, ‘Jim who should I pick?’ I would say without hesitation he should pick Hillary Clinton,” Mr. McGovern said in an interview today.

    No matter who Mr. Obama taps as his partner on the ticket, Mr. McGovern said, he is prepared to campaign in the general election for the Illinois senator, pointing out that he has already had his own political team meeting with Mr. Obama’s campaign to plan events in Massachusetts and ways he can help get out the vote in New Hampshire and Maine come November.

    But, he said, the combo some Democrats talked about as a dream ticket during the thick of the primary battles this spring, still makes sense to him.

    “I think she would be a great choice and a strong choice, but that decision is up to him.” Mr. McGovern said.

    “I am biased here. I think she would make a great nominee and a great president. I also think she would make a great vice president,” he said adding that she proved to be popular and capable of winning votes across the country.”

    The congressman’s comments come as he and other Clinton supporters are going to next week’s convention in Denver with plans to vote for the New York senator and former First Lady when her name is put before the convention as a candidate for the presidential nomination.

    “I plan to proudly cast my vote for her,” Mr. McGovern said.

    Other key Bay State Clinton backers including House Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi. D-Boston, have also said this week they plan to vote for Mrs. Clinton on the first nominating ballot as have a number of Central Massachusetts congressional district delegates, who were designated as Clinton delegates based on her decisive win in the Massachusetts Democratic primary in March.

    Mr. McGovern said that plan is intended only as a symbolic gesture at the convention, which he expects will be followed by a unanimous vote of acclamation for Mr. Obama.

    “I think it will be very helpful to Senator Obama in bringing Hillary’s supporters on board in Colorado and across the country,” Mr. McGovern said.

    Republicans, meanwhile, are hoping Ms. Clinton and her husband’s high profile at the convention will be seen by television viewers as evidence that Democrats are divided going into the general election.

    Former President Bill Clinton is scheduled fto speak to the convention Wednesday night while Obama campaign co-chair Deval L. Patrick and Mrs. Clinton will be among those addressing the convention Tuesday.

    The vice presidential nominee is scheduled to speak Wednesday night.

    ““I like everybody,” Mr. McGovern said of top contenders for the vice president spot on the ticket. “They all bring their own strengths,” he said.

    http://www.telegram.com/article/20080820/FRONTPAGENEWS/277

  55. Oh, my. I was hoping this would not happen. My sincerest condolences to her family and friends. She was a lioness. Her heart and determination will be missed.

  56. firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/20/1278602.aspx

    Now Waffles is a “fighter”??? Give me a fucking break!!!

  57. WABCr eports, STJ is on life support and the decision about whether to remove her is underway.

    Praying for a miracles. What a magnificent smile she had.

  58. #$#$#%^!!!!!

    WTF is wrong with these f***ing news agencies!

    The AP reports about STJ death are WRONG.

    Her doctors say she is in critical condition.

  59. Evidently, the offical news people did not check there information. Something they seem to do a lot of lately.

    The Blogs have it real time.

  60. It is just terrible news about Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. The primary has been littered with heart break.
    If it is any consulation, they this is the very easiest way to go, totally painless.
    This is such a sad day, another great lady gone.

  61. Hillary NOT RELEASING DELEGATES!

    from alegres corner.

    “I just got a note from a friend who was on a conference call with Hillary yesterday.
    I want to get two things out here for you guys to ponder before I head out to work…

    1) Harold Ickes said the new magic number is 2111.

    2) Hillary said a few words about unity and winning in Nov. but she said NOTHING about releasing her delegates.

    Not a word.

    ALEGRES CORNER.

  62. From WaPo 19 minutes ago.

    Confusion Over Tubbs Jones’s Condition

    An already sad story on the serious medical condition of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-Ohio) was made embarrassingly worse today by Capitol Briefing and other news outlets, as conflicting information prompted several erroneous reports that the lawmaker had died. As of this writing, she remains in critical condition in a Cleveland hospital.

    Tubbs Jones was found Tuesday night unconscious at the wheel of her car after police had seen it swerving erratically on a Cleveland highway. She was taken to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland for treatment. At noon today, Tubbs Jones’s office announced that she was in “stable condition” and that she had “suffered an aneurysm,” which, according to medical experts, likely means that a blood vessel in her brain burst.

    Based on information from a reliable Democratic source and stories from other news outlets, Capitol Briefing reported at 2:10 p.m. that Tubbs Jones had died. The Cleveland Plain-Dealer, the Associated Press, and CNN came out with similar reports at the same time, all based on anonymous sources. At that point, neither Tubbs Jones’s office nor the hospital had confirmed her death.

    But then a doctor at the hospital said Tubbs Jones was alive but in critical condition. According to AP: “Dr. Gus Kious says the 58-year-old Tubbs Jones suffered a brain hemorrhage in an inaccessible part of her brain and that a team of doctors who evaluated her determined she has limited brain function.” The Plain-Dealer revised its report. AP moved the following, unfortunately-worded update: “Kill the APNewsAlert saying U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died. A doctor says she is in critical condition.”

    It is not clear why Capitol Briefing’s source and those cited by other news organizations believed she had died, though it may be related to confusion over a report in the Plain-Dealer saying she had been taken off life-support. Capitol Briefing apologizes for the error and will be more careful as he continues to report this story.

  63. If the election were held today, McCain would win — he’s now taken the lead in electoral votes, over Obama:

    alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do;jsessionid=A3CB3263684C97DA165F3BA59776D6DC?diaryId=694

  64. STJ – a devastating loss.

    As for the convention — if McCain is leading, are they STILL going to go with a losing proposition?

    If so, let us pray…that Hillary walks away.

  65. JComment by Jennifer | 2008-08-20 15:09:37

    I’m questionning whether Stephanie Tubbs Jones actually had an aneurysm.
    Think about this. Back in January a person stormed Hill’s NH hq and held people hostage.
    Then in Indiana her campaign hq caught on fire and burned.
    Last Friday the Arkansas DNC chairman was murdered.
    Diane Feinstein broke her ankle and won’t go to the convention. Hillary’s delegates and supporters are being replaced and threatened.
    And now STJ. Obama, the DNC, and George Soros have to be behind this. It is very similar to what happened with Odinga in Kenya. We HAVE to take them down now. Everyone contact Hillary, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and tell them what we think and that they need to release any info on Obama now to bring him down. We have to stick together on this.
    People are dying because of them!
    ennifer from NQ articulates my thoughts.

  66. Check this out, pretty interesting. I’m reading far into this, but it seems like Hillary knows that she has lots of leverage right now, and is eyeing 2012:

    ———
    Obama Looking to Diminish Superdelegates
    By Dan Balz
    washingtonpost.com

    Barack Obama’s campaign will call next week for the creation of a new commission to revise the rules for selecting a presidential nominee in 2012 with a goal of reducing the power of superdelegates, whose role became a major point of contention during the long battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    The commission also will be urged to redraw the calendar for 2012 to avoid starting the primaries and caucuses so early, and also to look specifically at assuring more uniform rules and standards for those caucuses.

    Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the campaign will ask the national convention delegates in Denver to approve a resolution approving the establishment of a 35-member Democratic Change Commission. The charter would authorize the Democratic National Committee chairman appoint the commission soon after the election and ask them to report back by January 2010.

    The proposed changes grow out of discussions between Obama’s campaign team, officials at the Democratic National Committee and representatives of Hillary Clinton’s former presidential campaign, Plouffe said.

    The most important change involves superdelegates — the elected officials and party leaders who have automatic seats at national conventions and are free to vote for any candidate of their choice.

    Their role became hugely controversial during the long nomination battle between Obama and Clinton. Obama supporters feared that the superdelegates could override the results of the primaries and caucuses and potentially hand the nomination to Clinton.

    “The number of super delegates has gotten too large in relation to overall delegates,” Plouffe said. “We want to give more control back to the voters…. Everyone thinks there ought to be more weight given to the results of the elections.”

    The commission will be encouraged to consider either reducing the number of superdelegates eligible to attend the national conventions or increasing the number of so-called pledged delegates elected on the basis of the results of caucuses and primaries.

    The other significant change is the call to redraw the primary and caucus calendar. The 2008 calendar drew significant criticism both for the early starting dates for the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries, and also because there were so many states crowded into the first month of what turned out to be a five-month campaign.

    As envisioned by the Obama and Clinton campaigns, most contests could not be held before March, except for a handful of states authorized to go earlier — presumably in February rather than January.

    Plouffe also said the commission will be urged to look for ways to avoid the bunching of states on particular days. Almost two dozen states held contests on Super Tuesday last Feb. 5, which party officials hope to avoid in 2012.

    The other major area the commission will be asked to examine is the operation of caucuses in states that choose that process rather than a primary. The caucuses drew criticism, particularly from the Clinton campaign, which said they restricted participation and that in some states lacked the necessary infrastructure to insure fairness.

    “We agree that we ought to make sure they’re funded properly, staffed properly and run smoothly, and even see if people ought to be eligible to vote absentee,” Plouffe said.

  67. From Alegre’s Corner… 😀


    Hillary NOT Releasing Delegates
    by: Alegre
    Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:35:11 AM EDT

    I just got a note from a friend who was on a conference call with Hillary yesterday.

    I want to get two things out here for you guys to ponder before I head out to work…

    1) Harold Ickes said the new magic number is 2111.

    2) Hillary said a few words about unity and winning in Nov. but she said NOTHING about releasing her delegates.

    Not a word.

    So let’s keep our head down – contact as many delegates as we can in the coming days – and stay strong.

    And send up some good thoughts / a prayer or two for Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones if you can.

  68. neetabug: she has been in my prayers since yesterday.

    ———————————————–
    We have wondered how obama gets all this money from all those teensie weensie donors who save their pennies and lead lives of deprivation so they can help the messiah. Check this out: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh . . . . .
    ———————————————

    Half a million dollars had been donated from overseas by unidentified people “not employed”.

    Digging deeper, all sorts of very bizarre activity jumped at us. Dr and JJ continued to break it down and pull data from various sources. We found Rebecca Kurth contributed $3,137.38 to the Obama Campaign in 112 donations, including 34 separate donations recorded in one day,

    How about this gibberish donor on the 30th of April in 2008.

    A donor named Hbkjb, jkbkj

  69. let me get this straight-mccain is beating him 5pts now. is trusted on the major issues. obama is liekly to pick bayh says reports today. all hillary has is the hardcore of this party-her allies. the dems who work every day u know. the dnc isnt her friend. i say its time to fight in denver. this gy is toast. even bloggerboyz know it. taylor m knows it . even bill mahrer said last ngiht the dems need to pick hillary for godsake. hillaryw e need u right now.

  70. Wbboei
    You think they would get tired of losing.

    —————————————————

    Yuh think, not enough to let a Clinton take over! Their all idiots!

  71. I’m reading all the Stephanie Tubbs Jones headlines on NQ and Riverdaughter and here and other blogs, and watching the coverage from this morning on the MSM.

    I think it’s odd they don’t talk about how pioneering she was – the first African American woman to be elected to Congress from Ohio – is only BO allowed to be the pioneering one?

    As usual, women and women of color – what they accomplish or the barriers they break through are ignored or diminished.

  72. hillbuzz says just spoke to tubbs’ family. she is on life support as she is an organ donor. she will not recover and will die tonight. very sad news. may her wish to see a woman beomce president give strength to hillary and her delegates in denver.

  73. Re Hillary as VP, I hope he publically offers it and she publically stands up and says: “WEll, first we have to decide who the nominee is.”

  74. That is going to tear me up something awful if she is the veep. I am thinking it’s Bayh. Since, ya know, Obama is Bi according to Larry Sinclair lol 🙂 Not that I endorse Mr. Sinclair at all.

  75. Re Obama wanting McCain’s military records — I hope McCain campaign’s only immediate answer is to release McCain’s own birth certificate.

  76. What would work better is if they worked this out behind close doors, and they come out in unison and say we want this for 16 years, and we will partner to do this, HRC first, and then O just walks into it.

    It is his decision as to whether his ego will stand in the way of what is best for his country.

    It is time for O to truly show his patriotism, and make this agreement, and do what is right for his country.

  77. I want his Illinois legislature records MUCH more than I want any birth certificate. I guarantee you that there were LOTS of meetings and lunches with the Chicago mob, Ayers, Auchi, etc.

  78. NewMexicoFan: Thanks for the kind words.Nothing magic about longevity and good health.Keep busy,work hard at everything you do,stay lean,walk when you can,always go to bed a little hungry,eat often but in small amounts and most importantly never stop using your brain it needs intense and challenging activity.Teach yourself to respect the greatest gift from your God, yourr Body.There are also some important factors involved such as genes and commitment.Throw in some good luck and who knows it might work and then it might not.Just never stop trying.

    By ABM90 Hang in there with Hillary

  79. I was elated this morning when I saw the headline that McCain was beating BO in the national poll. Then I read about Tubb-Jones later in the day. It’s not such a wonderful day afterall.

  80. Reports coming from the grassroots bots that all is not well within the democratic party. Look at this quote from a bot blog. Hows that unity working for you now bambi.

    “Local Dem. Outr local party leaders are just not working for Obama…

    …Sure, they support him but their support is lukewarm at best in deference to pushing the local party slate. Anyone else having this problem? At one time I hoped, and truly felt that Obama could win SC. Not anymore. I have seen too much of the infighting within the party here. It is really sad. If Obama loses, I think it will be because of the lack of unity within the Democratic party rather than what kind of campaign Obama ran.

  81. Carbynew, thats an excellent post, in a nutshell the the idiot from illinois via hawaii and kansas is screwed.

  82. moonpluto, do you know the percentage of AA registered voters in SC? We know by now that AA will vote for BO. If it’s over 50%, he’s still got a good chance there.

  83. Oh now the republican machine is stepping up a gear. Heres todays press release and its a whopper.

    From McCain campaign:

    Please see comment from me on Barack Obama’s new ad supposedly running in Georgia:

    “Barack Obama’s ad is ridiculous. Because of John McCain, corruption was exposed and people like Jack Abramoff went to jail.

    “However, if Barack Obama wants to have a discussion about truly questionable associations, let’s start with his relationship with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, at whose home Obama’s political career was reportedly launched. Mr. Ayers was a leader of the Weather Underground, a terrorist group responsible for countless bombings against targets including the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and numerous police stations, courthouses and banks. In recent years, Mr. Ayers has stated, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs … I feel we didn’t do enough.’

    “The question now is, will Barack Obama immediately call on the University of Illinois to release all of the records they are currently withholding to shed further light on Senator Obama’s relationship with this unrepentant terrorist?”

    —McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

  84. Stephanie Tubbs Jones is such a heartbreaking loss…seems like just a few weeks ago we were all calling her office and sending emails thanking her so much for her courage and loyalty for Hillary…

    …why? so young, so good…

  85. filberts in SC, the AA population accounts for 45% of the democratic vote only. Its the white ones he’s having trouble with.

    If White voters make up 75% and AA’s about 25% then i’d say McCain is on solid ground.

  86. McCain on course to take NH, Obama loses huge lead.

    The presidential race in New Hampshire is now a toss-up. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds that Barack Obama’s once-double-digit lead over John McCain is down to a statistically insignificant one-point lead, 43% to 42%.

    When “leaners” are factored in, Obama is ahead 47% to 46%. Full demographic crosstabs are available for Premium Members. Time is running out to save on Premium Memberships. Sign up now and save. Learn More.

    The Democrat’s support has steadily decreased in the Granite State since he clinched the nomination in early June. Obama fell from an 11-percentage point lead in mid-June to a six-point lead in July. The latest numbers mark the closest the race has been so far this year.

    The latest numbers show support growing for McCain from those in his party. He now earns the vote from 87% of GOP voters, up from 78% a month ago. Though Obama still has a 42% to 34% lead among unaffiliated voters, support for the Democrat is down from 50% last month. He also has a 46% to 38% lead among women. Among men in New Hampshire, McCain has a 46% to 40% edge.

    While Obama has a solid lead among younger voters, the race is close among voters between the ages of 30 and 64. McCain has a dominant lead among voters age 65 and older.

  87. I hope this is not the case. But with his poll numbers in the dumps, I’m increasingly nervous…
    ———————————————
    Really only one thought on the Dems:

    Perhaps Patrick was right. A very good source is telling me that multiple DNC members have told him that Hillary is the person. While not immediately intuitive, Clinton is the candidate who one can easily imagine helping with Barack Obama’s numbers. Which seem to be … in bad shape? Who else would fundamentally shift the numbers? You could see her bringing Democrats back home, etc., in a way that none of the other candidates could.
    By the way, she would probably school most Republican VP candidates in the debates. And she and Bill know how to attack attack attack.
    But what do I know?

  88. thanks moonpluto.

    I’m more inclined to be optimistic if the trend continue AFTER the convention. We still don’t know who the VP is and I think that will be a big factor.

    BTW just read that Maddow got her own show on MSNBC. Good for the gay community that she’s the first out lesbian to host her own news show. For the rest of us, she’ll just be another mouthpiece for the Obamabots. MSNBC really is setting itself up to be Obama’s propaganda wing with this new addition.

  89. NewMexicoFan: I agree with you (if I understood you correctly)

    Hillary as president for the next 8 years and then Obama.

    It is time for Obama to step aside for the good of the party and allow Hillary to lead the democrats to victory in November.

  90. Obama stealing from Hillary’s playbook again…Obama Light is right!

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/20/1278602.aspx

  91. Apparently, we dead enders are not dead, according to the latest NBC/WSJ poll.
    —————————-
    Barack Obama’s lead in the presidential race has nearly disappeared, a combination of news from abroad, Republican attacks at home and Hillary Clinton voters who have not rallied behind Sen. Obama.

    A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows that as Democrats prepare to gather in Denver for their national convention next week, the Obama campaign’s biggest challenge may be attracting Sen. Clinton’s supporters to his campaign. Only half the people who voted for Sen. Clinton in the primaries said they are now supporting Sen. Obama. One in five is supporting Sen. McCain.

    Overall, the poll finds the race a statistical dead heat, with 45% favoring Sen. Obama and 42% Sen. McCain. That three-point Obama advantage is down from six points a month ago, a trend found in other national polls as well. The poll’s margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points

  92. Yes, remember the drumming Hillary got to quit. The shoe is now on the other foot.

    It is now time that the Phantom Menace (us), to demand that he step aside for the good of the Party.

    The question is are you patriotic enought to step aside, or is this all about you, and not the Dems winning the White House.

  93. I just love this train of thought, the shoe is on the other foot. No one will vote for a man that they don’t know nothing about, let alone one that cannot or wont verify his eligibility to be POTUS!

  94. A few months ago, a couple of campaign volunteers in my area were planning a big group trip. Exchange numbers and all. Now, haven’t heard from any of them.

    I have no intention of going. Why would I want to spend hundreds of dollars to see the crowning of that poseur? I don’t care if it’s history making. It’s not the history I want to see.

  95. texan4hillary Says:

    August 20th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
    hillary to have whip team to ensure unity-wtf?

    Why are people so concerned about embarrassing the anointed one? I have never heard such garbage in my life. The DNC needs a refresher in the Free Speech Amendment. The vote is symbolic, nothing more.

  96. birdgal, I think our party has forgotten what democracy has stood for for over 200 years. Free speech, free and fair elections, and the new politics of hope and change sure seem like the politics of third world countries.

  97. Incense burner, big oranger Chris Bower has some advice to bambi on how to attack McCain. Pathetic.
    ————————————–
    Attack McCain’s age. This might seem more dangerous, and I have cautioned against it before. However, it would seem foolish to avoid it at this point, because all of the clever attacks are being directed at Obama. We need to turn the tables, and this would help out quite a bit. For starters, voters want “change” in this election, and old age is an antithesis of change. Second, there is already a well-established national narrative about McCain’s age, so it would reinforce existing anti-McCain narratives. Third, if the attack was done correctly, there would still be deniability that McCain’s age was even being attacked. It could turn McCain into an angry, whiny, too sensitive candidate, which in turn makes him look old and weak. The narrative can thus reinforce itself even if McCain fights back.

  98. kostner, obviously the campaign is in bad need of advice, who ever in the world suggested that they call Rick Warren a liar and ask for McCain military record needs to be fired PDQ!

  99. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26314990/

    “Whatever momentum that Obama took into the summer, he really appears to have lost it,” says Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart. “It is not a dead heat, but it is close.”

    The survey also shows that both presidential candidates face their share of challenges. For Obama, he receives the support of just one in two voters who backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and he trails his Republican rival on handling terrorism, the war in Iraq and international crises like the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia.

    —————-
    The Clinton factor
    Yet perhaps the biggest factor keeping the presidential race close has been Obama’s inability to close the deal with some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters. According to the poll, 52 percent of them say they will vote for Obama, but 21 percent are backing McCain, with an additional 27 percent who are undecided or want to vote for someone else.

    What’s more, those who backed Clinton in the primaries — but aren’t supporting Obama right now — tend to view McCain in a better light than Obama and have more confidence in McCain’s ability to be commander-in-chief.

    For these reasons, Hart believes that Clinton’s speech on the Tuesday night of the Democratic convention will be a significant event. “The Democratic convention is more than a coronation,” he says. “It is an event where the words of Hillary Clinton are probably going to be exceptionally important.”

    Hart adds, “The Hillary Clinton campaign may be over, but the Clinton factor remains an important part of the election.”

    It’s also worth noting that while Obama leads McCain by three points in the poll, Clinton edges the Republican by six points in a hypothetical match up, 49 to 43 percent. But she remains a polarizing figure: 49 percent say they don’t want to see her as president someday, and 42 percent view her favorably versus 41 percent who see her in a negative light.

  100. When Candidates Attack: Obama Plays the Reed Card; McCain Responds with Ayers

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/when-candidates.html

  101. kostner Says:
    August 20th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    “……because of all of the clever attacks are being directed at Obama.”
    * * * *
    Saying that he’s not ready to lead or isn’t willing to do what’s necessary to bring down energy prices is “clever?” This is just low-hanging fruit, more “obvious” than “clever.” Anyway, they’re just getting warmed up! Wait until they make commercials about his lies about the born alive bill, not registering for selective service, doubts about his birth certificate, or more lies about his documented religious background. And let’s not forget the greatest hits: Ayers (sample above), Rezko, Wright.

  102. That’s some news, Admin. Not one bit surprising, however. I hope that there is something that can still be done for the sake of this country.

  103. I agree with ABM90: “it will take this woman to fix our village.” Wake up, Super Delegates! It’s not too late!

  104. Clinton edges the Republican by six points in a hypothetical match up, 49 to 43 percent. But she remains a polarizing figure: 49 percent say they don’t want to see her as president someday, and 42 percent view her favorably versus 41 percent who see her in a negative light.

    49% is a high figure. I wonder, what Bo’s ratings are?

  105. Bird, she had those kind of numbers in New York State before people got to know her. The more you know her, the more you like her. It’s the opposite with Stinky.

  106. Informed: That is true. This showed in the primaries, and why, she was winning so many contests over Waffler. Stinky is a good name. Very appropriate.

    I am very sad about Tubb-Jones.

  107. McCain, these last 2 weeks, has picked up RIGHT where Hillary left off at the end of the Dem primary season: hitting Obama hard and aggressively proving that he is inexperienced and not ready for the White House. The result is that Obama is dropping like a stone again in the polls. It took Hillary a while to figure out how to beat him, and then once she cracked the code, it was smooth sailing for her. Unfortunately, she just ran out of time, and then the fix was in with the DNC and… well, you know.

    Obama continues to run a bumbling campaign, despite being flush with money. This election is not going to end well for him. His legacy will be that he blew the most winnable general election in modern history.

  108. the nbc poll says its a change election and dems need to tie mccain to bush. as feingold says good luck dudes. feingold said mccain is not a 3rd bush and isnt a nut job. and mccain just has to whip out lieberman to show his bpartisan work eg climate, gun control etc… hillary warned about mccain.

  109. I can’t concentrate on shit today.

    The news of Stephanie’s passing has just completely derailed me. 🙁

  110. God Bless Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. What an absolute CLASS ACT. Never wavered in LOYALTY. Her bubbly, magnetic personality and wisdom will leave an empty hole in every true Democrats – and any patriotic American’s heart. I am absolutely devastated.

    I felt she would hold a cabinet post for our nation in the next Democratic administration due to her impeccable record. A natural-born leader and cheerleader, her talents are endless. Just an unbelievable tragedy. My heart goes out to her family, constituents, her scores of supporters and admirers, Hillary, Bill and Chelsea Clinton, and the Hillary44 bloggers from her great state of Ohio. You will remain uppermost in my prayers.

    As we, the Phantom American people stalk BHO, dissecting his record, his associations, his flim-flams and flip-flops, his LIES – we will continue to turn over every rock, read every hidden fact and statement.

    As the antithesis to the SuperDelegates who blindly giggle as if tipsy on BHO, we will soberly and deliberately gain ground as SuperSleuths who demand PROOF – primary sources – show us original birth certificates, FEC filings, applications, records on the Annenberg Foundation – which have suddenly become off-limits – as well as anything and everything that will EXPOSE BHO for the FRAUDULENT man AND image.

    We will not foolishly take the bait – we are not interested in more lies, distortion, intimidation, manipulation and deceit that IS the DNC and the BHO campaign.

    To honor the memory of the OUTSTANDING Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH) we will support Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and work as hard as the tireless Congresswoman to bring her message of deliverance to the American people. We implore the African-American community to face the truth about BHO and understand that Sen. Clinton (and President Clinton) will advance their concerns and causes in ways that BHO can NEVER accomplish.

    Let’s all pick up the heavy banner that Rep. Tubbs-Jones carried, made heavier by the unrelenting threats and bullying tactics and maneuvers from the ranting Obamabots and surrogates and bring it home for Stephanie and Hillary.

  111. I knew Stephanie a loooooooooooooooong time ago when I worked at the Justice Center here in Cleveland. She was the new prosecutor. Everyone who worked with her really admired her. First impressions last- she never failed us and always did it with that winning smile.

    RIP, Stephanie.

    For those that want to leave condolences, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has set up a guestbook.

    http://www.//obits.cleveland.com/CLEVELAND/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=000116072806

  112. exactly, texan4hillary. hillary was sounding the alarm bells very early about how difficult the GE match-up against mccain was going to be. and democrats naively and foolishly rallied behind the feel-good / empty-suit candidate, and we’re stuck with a lemon.

  113. Rep Tubbs-Jones was one of the bravests Politicis that I know. In the past, there have been other women of color who were intelligent and brave also.

    She stood up in 2000 and she stood up in 2008. She did not do it for fame or glory, but because she believed in it, and IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

    SDs are you as brave as Rep Tubbs-Jones? Then in her honor Please stand up and do the right thing.

  114. I think we should name Rep Stephanie Tubbs-Jones the Number One Phantom Menace Phostumously (God did I spell that right).

    She will go into our new hall of fame as the number one Phantom Menace.

  115. tragic about jones. im sure the brutal campaign and the constant threats she recieved took a major toll on her health.

  116. Hope every single SD who supports him – ESPECIALLY the ones who have NEVER seen the light and REFUSE to vote for Hillary in the roll-call LOSE their next election/post. When he goes down, he needs to take them all with him. After all, THEY are the reason we are all in this fix. IN FACT, “THE FIX” IS IN because of the SuperDelegates.

    THEY caved to the pressure by the DNC early on, and his long-time SD’s need to go down on the same Titanic. The Unsinkable Hillary will ultimately prevail.

    Let’s not forget that it was Rep. Stephanie-Tubbs Jones who valiantly sought to have Ohio votes recounted in another debacle. She took THE LEAD in calling out the CORRUPTION by the Republicans in the stolen Ohio election. I

    If everyone had listened to her then, we wouldn’t have endured the past several deplorable years. Would never have been in ANY war.

    Her presence, her vivid memories, her advice is STILL with us – ALL DEMOCRATS SHOULD HEED HER ADVICE AND ELECT SEN. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON TO THE PRESIDENCY.

  117. JAN– what I said this morning was dead wrong. Plains radio said somebody did a poll that showed Hillary 6 points above McCain, who Zogby says is 5 points above Obama.

    That surprises me since she suspended her candidacy a couple months ago and has endorsed him. Normally that would cause a candidates numbers to plunge. Here that has not happened and believe me I am elated to see it.

  118. Lighting the same candle for Stephanie as I did many times for Hillary. Sisters. We are all their sisters, too.

  119. oklahomahills Says:

    August 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
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    cremation

  120. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

    I can’t access youtube here so can someone watch this, its apparently Obama being cold blooded about abortion.

    Audio Found Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act

    In this audio Obama coldly claims two doctors helping a baby born alive after a botched abortion would be a burden for the aborting mother when he is arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act at the Illinois state legislature April 2002.

    Obama doesn’t care about the baby getting the medical attention, just whether or not the aborting mother is burdened.

  121. Thanks shenanigans for the website for condolences for Rep. Tubbs-Jones.

    Our first African-American Congresswoman in Texas, Barbara Jordan, was also a legal eagle. Commanding presence, sharp as a tack. Principled, courageous, didn’t back down because she had the truth on her side as well. Beloved by all. Also, lost too young. So unfair. Such role models for our nation’s leaders.

    Kay Bailey-Hutchinson, Claire McCaskill, and many others don’t hold a candle to these women of integrity. Not even in the same league.

    They’re in a league of their own.

  122. I just woke…fell asleep while crying over Stephanie’s news….
    I have not cried liked this for so long….

  123. Brazille misquoted Stephanie’s last name on CNN just a few minutes ago. SHe called her Johnson. THis woman is horrible!

  124. wbboei,

    Hillary coming in ahead of McCain, even after all this time just makes me smile. They can try and shove Obama down our throats as much as they want. It doesn’t make any difference.

  125. There doesnt seem to be anything except the fluff pieces they are doing on MCain and Bambi.
    I did see where all the campaign staff is heading to Indianna on sunday for a big event there. So the pundits are saying Bayh!

  126. Bayh, don’t make me laugh, that would have to be the most boring pick for a vp ever, the polls will plummet evn more.

  127. Good ole Donna…what a class act, eh? It would only have taken a few seconds to make sure she got Stephanies name right.

    Useless piece of shit.

  128. i vote we storm the DNC in DC or Chicago and throw out Dean and Brazzierre by the scruff of their necks! LOL!

  129. Just shows you how much disdain she had for her opposing Obama.

    Sorry, and i apologise to all you ladies but Donna Brazille, what a heartless fucking bitch you are.

  130. The cold hard facts from LJ at NQ.

    “Hillary won the popular vote: (ABC)
    Hillary: 17,785,009
    Obama: 17,479,990

    “If the Rules Committee had not halved the votes in Florida and Michigan, Hillary would have netted 100 delegates from Florida and 73 from Michigan. If Obama had gotten none from Michigan (he took his name off the ballot to placate Iowa), and not given him delegates he had not earned, Hillary would have had 1725 delegates at the end of the primaries and Obama 1707. She would have won the pledged delegates.”

  131. Some of us are in the wrong group. I went to the link and lit the candle there, and there are now 9. Can we move them to the larger group.

    If you know how to do this, please move them.

  132. I guess in Donna’s mind, Stephanie was just one of the commoners. Small and insignificant.

    In truth, Donna isn’t fit to utter Stephanies name…so maybe it’s best that she didn’t even really try.

  133. Has anyone heard that the Obama supporters are going to stand in front of the Hillary supporters at the convention, so he will not get embarrassed!

  134. NewMexicoFan Says:
    What would work better is if they worked this out behind close doors, and they come out in unison and say we want this for 16 years, and we will partner to do this, HRC first, and then O just walks into it.
    It is his decision as to whether his ego will stand in the way of what is best for his country.

    And best for Obama! His backers like Pelosi may not care if he loses in Nov, but HE cares.

    C/O is a win/win for O. If Clinton wins, he has a clear shot in 2016. If she loses, he can pick up the pieces in 2012.

    If O/anyone loses, then O may be out permanently, the McGovern of 2008.

    The roll call going for Clinton might be a brilliant exit strategy for Obama. He’d get his safe spot without his macho babybots seeing him actually concede to a woman.

  135. ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jeOnTe0WG_AARBV3TCSKD70cSM5AD92M9VN00

    “I have never suggested that Sen. McCain picks his positions on national security based on politics or personal ambition. I have not suggested it because I believe that he genuinely wants to serve America’s national interest. Now, it’s time for him to acknowledge that I want to do the same.”

    McCain countered Wednesday, saying: “Sen. Obama got a little testy on this issue. He said I was questioning his patriotism. Let me be clear — I am not questioning his patriotism. I am questioning his judgment.”

    McCain then pressed his attack. “Washington is full of talented talkers,” McCain said. “The bottom line is that Sen. Obama’s words, for all their eloquence and passion, don’t mean all that much.”

    Ain’t THAT the truth.

  136. Has anyone heard that the Obama supporters are going to stand in front of the Hillary supporters at the convention, so he will not get embarrassed!

    Not exactly. HRC put together a whip team to work the convention floor and make sure that her supporters aren’t disrespectful to Obama. My understand is that IF HRC supporters start chanting anti-obama slogans, etc. etc. it will be nixed by the whip team.

  137. If Obama tries to fluff on McCain, McCain is going to tear him a new asshole. I think Obama thought this little old 72 year old man was going to be a walk over and Boy did Obama get his alarm bell rung this week by him.

    First cardinal rule dipstick, never underestimate your opponent, you do so at your peril.

  138. it will be nixed by the whip team.

    and i hope said supporters tell them to go fuck themselves politely.

  139. Confloyd: I think, you may be referring “The Whip Team.”

    Just when, I think, I can’t become more disgusted with BO’s campaign, your statement about his supporters holding up signs to block Hillary supporters, is beyond the pale. Do they really think, this will draw people to his campaign? Bo has not done ANYTHING to try to get Hillary supporters. He thinks, he can make up the difference with other groups. What arrogance.

  140. Well, the thing is…there’s a way to do these things without bringing embarrassment down upon HRC’s head, you know? 😉

  141. ON the convention floor, there ought to be some restraint on the part of HRC’s supporters (imo). At the very least, no outright assholishness.

    Outside the convention? A whole different ball of wax. 🙂

  142. Idunn, it seems more likely the other way around, the bots will be saying anticlinton slogans!

    The King has a whip team too. They will keep his supporters from becoming assholes too.

    It’s all about the UNITY, Baby. LOL…or at least the appearance thereof.

  143. I know, right? That’s the kind of shit I say when I wind someone up and they bite…”Tsk tsk, why so testy?” LOL!

  144. Hi all. I join you in my condolences to the friends, family and supporters of Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. I am devastated and heart-broken. I had the pleasure and honorof actually getting to spend some time with her in Washington at the rally in the Park at the RBC. Got my pic with her and everything.

    I remember being here, on Big Pink, the night Hillary won Ohio, and Stephanie made that AMAZING speech. We all encouraged each other to call her office and thank her for her fabulous support of Hillary. I did, right then and there. It was after midnight as I recall.

    She was an amazing woman. I am so sad.

    So sad I cried.

  145. If they are ever at a debate and Obama does it.

    McCain should just the Ooooooooooooooohwoooooooooooh, get her.

    You know the one i mean.

  146. Idunn, I was asking what a whip team was, i still don’t know!

    They basically are like event organizers. Keep everything running smoothly out on the floor. Trouble shoot.

  147. Barbara Jordan was great. I may be misremembering, but my memory was that when she spoke at the Dem convention she went on and on in crisp standard Yankee English about progress the nation had made, with never a mention of gender or race. Just once: “and Ah … am a Keyh Note Speakah.”

    It was wonderful. You could hear the accent very deliberatelly getting progressively heavier, with plenty of pauses to see what she was up to and get ready to applaud.

  148. Sign Stephanie Tubb Jones Book.

    //obits.cleveland.com/Cleveland/GB/GuestBookSaveEntry.aspx?PersonId=116072806

  149. Sign Stephanie Tubbs Jones memorial book here.

    obits.cleveland.com/Cleveland/GB/GuestBookSaveEntry.aspx?PersonId=116072806

  150. The more I think about this event in Indiana, I think it is a somebody from Indiana as the VP; but it
    may not be Bayh..it might be Roemer….

  151. Or he may be just dragging the new vP to Indianna to give a speech, especially sense the polls there are sinking badly!

  152. I have never wanted a candidate to fall like I want this one to fall. He deserves everything he gets from the republicans!

  153. Con

    Like we need another speech. They must have missed the civics class on Politics, because Speeches are only a small part of it.

  154. Wow – what a powerful collection of points. I’d say you’ve outdone yourself, but honestly you’ve been doing great work all along. It must be that the “I TOLD you so scenario” is looming into view and now there’s so much ink out there beginning to be spilled which proves you right.

  155. I am pretty sure we are seeing the effects of the Russia/Georgia, Hawaii, Religious discussion.

    Since he is going negative, this could go against him also.

    So who knows when that might hit.

    BUT CANDIDIATES GO NEGATIVE WHEN THEY HAVE TO STOP THE SLIDE.

    SDs Negative at this point in the race. You got to be worried.

  156. the lady that got the 300 delegate drive petition has her 300 delegates and more are coming on board! This is the drive to get Hillary’s name on the ballot if they try not at the last minute to knock her off!

  157. confloyd: YAHOO!!! Yes, according to the DNC, if 300 delegates sign the pledge, then the candidate’s name is entered into nomination.

  158. I’m not sure the IN stuff is significant. It’s a neighboring state of IL, where they’re appearing Saturday.

    BTW, I read somewhere that Biden backtracked on his denial. Whatever that means …

  159. This is something a lawyer found in the Convention Call, those elected as HRC delegates must vote for her on the roll call:

    it’s in Article VIII, Procedural Rules . . . . 7. Roll Call, F.Voting, 8. Roll call votes, subsection c (so VIII, 7 F 8 c.) Subsection c (according to my notes) reads as follows: “All delegates pledged to a candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” My interpretation of the provision is that a Clinton delegate is conscience bound to vote for Clinton since the delegate was elected by voters in the delegate’s state to do so.

    It looks like those who were elected as HRC, but have since endorsed O, hopefully will be informed of and will follow the rules.

  160. It cracks me up to think back to just a few months ago, when Axelrod and Plouffe and the rest of the Chicago idiots were making sweeping proclamations about how they “didn’t need” Pennsylvania and other key swing states, because Obama was going to magically change the whole electoral map and cruise to a big victory.

    And where are we now? Obama’s tanking in the polls thanks to a few light jabs from McCain, and now his campaign is in mild panic mode, as they realize that their electoral map is shrinking by the hour.

  161. Have people here seen the new article at NoQuarter about a money laundering scandal with the Obama campaign? This sounds serious folks…..

  162. Maybe their electorial map was a fantasy to begin with

    They have thumb their noses at the core of the party, older, women, gays, and they built this entire mirage on a Caucus in Iowa, a red state, in which they bused in people. They and the media declared victory that night. This was not a blue state or a voter primary. They proceeded to steal caucuses, and succeed in red states. They, working with the media continued to paint victory where there was none,

    Now they are polling actual voters, and the information is not what they want.

    So SDs where will your next jobs be, as this one is going down with the O wave.

  163. I signed a candle for Congresswoman Tubbs-Jones. I don’t know how many that makes in our group now but it was good to see so many of our group have visited the site. A truly sad day.

  164. That’s so tragic about Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. I remember her feeding Kirk Watson his lunch too.

    Admin, I always like your pop culture references. Phantom Menace and Terminator (‘come with me if you want to live’).

  165. This crap about protecting O is really not very Presidential.

    HRC stood along and took the slings and arrows. If he is not tough enough to take this convention, then he is not tough enough to run.

    The GE is not for faint of heart.

  166. That Acorn stuff could be big. I was aware of some of it, but someone has really been doing some digging lately.

  167. birdgal Says: Yes, according to the DNC, if 300 delegates sign the pledge, then the candidate’s name is entered into nomination.
    ===========

    Didn’t HIllary say that herself too? That if 300 delegates do this, no one can stop them. But we can make it go smoothly for you, BArack, if….

    I hope they’re prepared for Pelosi and Obama to challenge all signatures on technicalities though.

  168. turndown: I heard or read that all signatures have been notarized, just to prevent challenges to them. Also, they are being kept in a safe place.

  169. I had to sign a pledge before I could even run as a national delegate that no matter what happened that first belonged to Hillary. I hope all will be reminded of their democratic duty. Not the duty to Dean/Brazzeirre/Poolosi!

  170. Denver’s already heating up:

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    politico.com
    August 20, 2008

    Clinton creates ‘whip team’ to quell anti-Obama protests

    In an unusual move, Hillary Clinton’s staff is creating a 40-member “whip team” at the Denver Democratic convention to ensure that her supporters don’t engage in embarrassing anti-Obama demonstrations during the floor vote on her nomination, according to people familiar with the planning.

    The team, which is being organized by longtime Clinton staffer Craig Smith, is working in conjunction with Obama’s floor organizers to help foster the image of a unified front during a roll-call process Clinton herself has described as an emotional “catharsis” for her disappointed supporters.

    “If people get down there on the floor and want to start blowing kazoos and making a scene we want to make sure we’ve got people who stand in front of them with Obama signs,” said a person involved in the planning.

    “Is it typical for a losing candidate to have their own whip team? No. But it’s also not usual for a losing candidate to get 18 million votes either,” said the person.

    Clinton spokesperson Kathleen Strand emphasized the team would not seek to convince delegates to vote for the former first lady, but would hand out Clinton signs to supporters who requested them.

    “We have been and are working closely with the Obama campaign to make sure we have an exciting and unified convention,” Strand said. “Our delegate whips, along with the Obama delegate whips, are a part of a team that will be on the floor of the convention to make sure delegates have everything they need, whether that’s answering questions or passing out signs during Hillary’s speech. The whips are a traditional part of every convention’s floor operations.”

    Plans for the squad were finalized last weekend. Although some former Clinton staffers balked at policing their own supporters, its ranks were filled by people itching for a floor pass — not an easy get for Clinton’s troops at the Obama-run convention.

  171. I think they are ahead of the game and got them notorized. THe main thing they said is that the damn has broken and more signatures are coming in (many)!

  172. Someone mentioned that Rachel Maddow has her own show. She is replacing Abrams, the only one, who tried to be somewhat neutral, back in Feb. (I stopped watching MSNBC back then). Maddow is an obamabot, so I won’t be watching her show. I used to like her.

  173. OH, well I am trying to scrape the money, its hard I am not working right now, but looks like they may need us, so I am thinking hard about going!

  174. Tex, just got an email from an old friend, she sent me a new video of Pastor Manning, apparently he is posting his hate mail from the bots on Utube. This is how they work and it is hateful, I wonder if Stephanie had to put up with this?youtube.com/watch?v=Ly6I7aWEPv8

  175. Oh thankyou Admin, I wanted this posted because this is what the delegates are putting up with, and I can imagine that our black supporters are getting it worse than the others!

  176. So the AP is reporting Biden is first in line, and I guess that means you can cross him off the list.

    This is the same news agency that just yesterday knowingly
    (I say knowingly because spell check in a publishing outlet must be standardized in all their software before they go to press) printed that Joe Lieberman was a prick. In addition to their editor being linked to the McCain campaign, in addition to… etc, etc.

  177. There’s also a long profile on Sebellius in the NYT.
    So I guess they’re just throwing out misdirectional shit all over the place.

    My guess remains the same, btw. I don’t think there’s any way Hill stepped aside with so much ammunition unless she locked down VP, and BO’s even dumber than I thoughtif he doesn’t recognize how badly he needs her.
    Not saying Im happy about it, just what seems in the cards to me.

    I smell TurnDownObama coming after that one. Please spare me….

  178. Norma: I remember seeing this, back in May. She is great, and right on.

    Baaawk, Baawk, Baawk, the chickens are coming home to roost.

  179. birdgal, I am again listening to Hillary speaking in Bejing in 95′ and I am still so amazed at this woman. How can the DNC not want this woman to represent us as our nation’s CIC? I can’t understand it at all. She is so amazing, while I was out partying she was impeaching President Nixon at 22 years old. She is truly the “ONE” we have waited for. I am so pist that they have screwed her out of the position she has worked a lifetime for. Hopefully the SD’s will grow a brain before Monday!

  180. Confloyd: I don’t think the sd’s are going to budge. This is unfortunate. McCain may just win this. The best candidate does not get the nod, and the other two are not up snuff. Is this the best, this country can do? Putin is probably laughing his butt off, as well as China.

  181. Birdgal, there are remarks in her speech that pertain to this election, about shutting out the woman in politics, it made the hair stand up on my neck. After all these years we a basically still just past square one!
    It is a horrible injustice to deny this woman her place in history as well as it is horrendous to deny her to the ailing nation that so much needs her savvy, ability, dedication and guts to get us past this big bump we have hit!

  182. Yep! He keeps trying to denigrate the book on the campaign trail, and John Kerry’s all wound up over it with his little ‘truth squad’ website or whatever it’s called, but it’s definitely having an effect. People are snatching it off the shelves.

  183. Did you guys see the Manning video posted above, its pretty good, it shows what the black supporters of Hillary have had to put up with!

  184. Blue,

    Since ‘prick’ is a perfectly good English word, even a noun as in ‘pin prick’, it would have to be a pretty good spell checker to catch it being used in the wrong context.

    Blue said: My guess remains the same, btw. I don’t think there’s any way Hill stepped aside with so much ammunition unless she locked down VP, and BO’s even dumber than I thoughtif he doesn’t recognize how badly he needs her.
    Not saying Im happy about it, just what seems in the cards to me.
    I smell TurnDownObama coming after that one. Please spare me….

    Why?

    I’m not sure what events you’re referring to here. What has she stepped aside from lately? Rumours are saying she’s getting ready to call for attack (seems unlikely). She’s got her roll call, she’s starting a group of whips…. Supers are coming out for her, more delegates are signing up for her….

    I doubt all this is very solid, but why does it look to you like ‘stepping aside’?

    Seems like after the ‘keynote speaker’ talk reversed, then some polls gave her more ammunition. So which ‘step aside’ and which ‘ammunition’ are you referring to?

    As for locking up VP — doesn’t that sort of assume that she wanted VP? Why do you think she would want it? Her statements are just the opposite: she says she wants to stay in the Senate. Bill sure isn’t acting like he wants any favors from Obama, and neither is she, really.

  185. I heard Freddoso talk on hcsfjm and he is an ass, don’t buy his book, he is a freaking rwn that hates the Clinton’s

  186. So I guess they’re just throwing out misdirectional shit all over the place
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    The hallmark of a great leader.

  187. Freddoso had a long article at wsj, very sound and informative (though it could have used more context on the Alice Palmer incident).

    h t t p : / / forums.wsj.com/viewtopic.php?t=3762
    Comment form, asks for a user name. I don’t recall registering, but it accepted my comment.

    h t t p : / / http://www.wsj.com/article/SB121918996082755013.html?mod=psp_mostpop
    AN EXCLLENT ARTICLE! WORTH SPREADING AND QUOTING ELSEWHERE.

    About Obama’s politics in Chicago: taking all his opponents off the ballot includng Alice Palmer, endorsing corrupt Daley machine politicians, etc.

    Obama Played by Chicago Rules
    By DAVID FREDDOSO
    August 20, 2008; Page A19

    Democrats don’t like it when you say that Barack Obama won his first
    election in 1996 by throwing all of his opponents off the ballot on
    technicalities.

    By clearing out the incumbent and the others in his first Democratic
    primary for state Senate, Mr. Obama did something that was neither
    illegal nor even uncommon. But Mr. Obama claims to represent something
    different from old-style politics — especially old-style Chicago
    politics. And the senator is embarrassed enough by what he did that he
    misrepresents it in the prologue of his political memoir, “The
    Audacity of Hope.”

    There’s also a comment string about the same article at Realclearpolitics:
    h t t p : / / comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/42323/151915.html#REPLY
    Comment box for the article if registered.

    Once logged in at rcp, here are other articles to comment on -see below
    h t t p : / / comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/42323/152304.html

  188. thanks confloyd- I will look

    re. the convention delegates and supers–

    rage rage against the dying of the light
    do not go gentle into that good night

  189. I think there’s so much misdirection about the VP, and then poo pooing of Hillary being chosen, that it could very well be Hillary.

    So many of us evolved into PUMAs after she suspended, but it took a couple weeks to get our focus – if she is indeed chosen as VP, where do we go from here in the next chapter?

  190. Mr. Obama has never stood up against Chicago’s corruption problem because his donors and allies are Chicago’s corruption problem.

    Mr. Obama is not the reformer he now claims to be. The real man is the one they know in Chicago — the one who won his first election by depriving voters of a choice

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    Turndownobama: good article. Last 2 paragraphs are perfect elevator speed on why not to support obama.

  191. In 1974, I was watching live when Barbara Jordan said that originally she was not included in “we, the people”. I cried then almost throughout the speech.

    This morning I cried when I heard about another lioness, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. Not so much at her leaving at so young an age but at our losing someone we need so badly. I came on this site for comfort.

    Then Idunn or someone put Barbara Jordan’s speech here and I cried, remembering. Thanks, but oh lord, I can’t take much more.

    I guess it’s a bit cheery to note that almost 50% of HRC voters aren’t going for Obama. MSNBC and CNN keep repeating that they will. Well, we can probably count on Obamabots at the convention to boo Hill and/or Bill. That’ll convince us to come around!

  192. CountTheVotes Says:

    August 21st, 2008 at 3:05 am
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    The answer depends on whether we are fighting for Hillary or for the country. Before she suspended her candidacy they were one and the same. But if obama gets the nomination and she is vp then that is the question we will each have to ask ourselves. There are nunaces to it of course–like can she save him from himself or would she go down with the ship, and will he survive legally, with rezco, birth certifiate, legal name, etc.

  193. One other thing I would say about obama.

    I am unimpressed with his alleged assets.

    I am scared to death of his liabilities.

  194. Obama continues to get slammed amidst the fallout from his disaster at Saddleback:

    ———-
    Bad news should wake up Obama, experts say

    Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
    Thursday, August 21, 2008

    (08-20) 17:32 PDT — It’s not panic time – yet – but some Democrats watching Barack Obama say his campaign should have gotten a wake-up call this week, not only from his appearance with John McCain at the Saddleback Church but from a major poll suggesting he no longer leads his GOP opponent.

    At the Saddleback forum with Pastor Rick Warren on Saturday in Orange County, the Republican presidential candidate delivered on-the-money messages and answers so effective they were “scary to me,” said George Lakoff, a renowned author and UC Berkeley linguistics professor who has studied how the human brain absorbs and processes messages.

    Lakoff, whose work has helped shaped numerous Democratic candidates’ campaigns, said that “right through the motivational campaign theme, they were doing everything right.”

    By contrast, Obama was “overconfident … and certainly not prepared” before the evangelical audience with definitive answers to clearly explain to voters his world view, values and vision, Lakoff said.

    Lakoff isn’t alone in his assessment that Obama needs to step up his game, hone his message and sharpen his contrasts with McCain as he heads into the final sprint after next week’s Democratic National Convention in Denver.

    A national poll released Wednesday by Reuters/Zogby showed McCain beating Obama 46 to 41 percent, an advantage that also shows that voters now see McCain as stronger on economic issues. The latest poll erased the strong seven-point advantage held by the Democrat just last month. Other polls had the race statistically tied.

    Moreover, some recent polls indicate that some red states that Democrats had hoped they could flip to blue – like Indiana and Virginia – are tacking back slightly to McCain.

    The latest polls show that even with gas prices rising precipitously under a Republican administration, the candidates are unusually close on whom Americans trust to deal with the issue.
    Sharper message needed

    Some Democrats – Lakoff included – say it’s clear Obama needs to sharpen his message and get tougher on beating back attacks from McCain’s campaign, which has suggested that Obama is elitist and even unpatriotic.

    “John McCain is jujitsuing Obama’s strengths,” said one leading California-based Democratic strategist, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of his work with a nationally known party figure.

    The strategist said many Democrats witnessed their candidate’s performance at the Saddleback forum with “a feeling of vague nausea” because “the stature gap (between Obama and McCain) widened dramatically in the mind of any viewer who watched.”

    Lakoff, a progressive academic often cited for his views on the importance of “framing the debate” in politics, said the discussion at the Lake Forest evangelical church provided an unusually clear window into the two candidates’ strengths, including how effective they are heading into upcoming debates and the final sprint of the presidential race.

    Two examples from Saddleback that Lakoff and others said underscore Obama’s troubles:

    — McCain – asked his reason for running for president – confidently outlined a strong message of “country first,” urging service to America. That idea, dominant in McCain’s message and the theme of the GOP convention, showed that McCain Republicans have “figured out the formula” of effective campaign communication – and brilliantly melded ideas touted by both Presidents Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy.

    — Obama, in contrast, delivered a far more nuanced plea for empathy and building bridges across party lines instead of a more direct answer – telling voters what those values would mean specifically “to your children, your future, your environment,” said Lakoff.

    With just days until the Democrats head into their convention, the tough assessment by Lakoff, author of “The Political Mind: Why You Can’t Understand 21st-Century American Politics with an 18th-Century Brain,” might spark some panic among Democrats.

    Even some Republicans agree that the forum should be a dose of very tough medicine for Obama.

    “The nature of the campaign is changing less than a week before the convention starts,” said Sacramento-based GOP strategist Patrick Dorinson, who also saw the Saddleback forum as a seminal moment. “Obama felt he was sitting with Dr. Phil, and he was trying not to offend anybody. McCain seemed to understand he was running for president … his answers were more direct and aimed at the electorate.”

    “The primaries are preseason; you can make mistakes. But now we’re into the first game that really counts,” Dorinson said. “Obama’s folks are reading their own press clippings too much – and they’ve got to understand they’re in a dogfight.”
    Time to revamp

    Barbara O’Connor, professor of political communication at Sacramento State University, agrees with Lakoff that “Obama’s message of change needs to be revamped.”

    “Change toward what end?” she asks. “The party is very bad at labeling things that provide an umbrella for other positive memories. Democrats tend to mush around and don’t give people slogans like ‘Morning in America,’ ” which Reagan used to evoke a feeling of hope and promise in the country.

    But she takes issue with some of Lakoff’s tougher assessments of Obama’s performance at Saddleback, a forum before evangelical voters that from the start constituted a challenge for Obama.

    “When you talk about religion and faith-based values, you have to be nuanced. … I thought he was really earnest, trying to explain who he was to an audience that largely disagreed with him. These weren’t his guys.”

  195. we always think obama will go down etc but it never seems to happen. sure some dems are panicked. some know he will lose for sure and millions will suffer for it. but oh well as long as obaam is nominated…

  196. tex, you are so right, it is more important for the history than the planet and its inhabitants. They are all rich, its not going to hurt them.

  197. seen several examples now of how baracks contributors take large sums of money and divide it 100 times and send it to him in small amouts. Just like they use a razor blade to slice off a small piece from a kilo of heroine street value 20 million. He has a criminal empire behind him/

  198. we always think obama will go down etc but it never seems to happen. sure some dems are panicked. some know he will lose for sure and millions will suffer for it. but oh well as long as obaam is nominated…
    ———————————————
    It is a function of the money behind him and how badly they want a rube like him who they can control,

  199. wb,
    sorry, didn’t see your questions. Denver? don’t I need a ticket?
    U got one for me?

    TurnDownObama,
    You didn’t spare me. Ok, for about the 5th time, there was just as much circumstantial evidence (Bill &) Hill wanted VP as not.
    You obviously disagree on that point.

    But not only do I see no other possible rationale for the meek response thus far to one of the great thefts of the century, but it also goes against an important historical rationale with regard to the Clinton legacy.

    1st two-termer since FDR & his wife was VP (with the inside track for 2016), or two-termer & senator.
    It’s hard for me to dismiss that – again, because I cannot explain another damn thing about their approach otherwise – and just seeing the Clintons take all this without getting a tangible return.

    Plus, democrats will likely lose if she isn’t, and I don’t think they want to see that happen.
    They’ve never been about power for power’s sake, I just see more reason to want it than not.

  200. August 20, 2008

    Former President William J. Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Chelsea Clinton on the Passing of Chairwoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones

    “There are few words to express the shock we feel at this time. Our deepest condolences are with Stephanie’s son, Mervyn, her family, and her many loved ones, friends, and supporters.

    Stephanie’s friendship meant the world to us, a friendship that deepened through every trial and challenge. We could always count on her to be a shoulder on which to lean, an ear to bend, a voice to reassure. Over the course of many years, with many ups and many downs, Stephanie was right by our side—unwavering, indefatigable.

    It was that fighting spirit—safely stowed behind her disarming smile, backed by so much integrity and fiery intelligence—that allowed Stephanie to rise from modest beginnings, to succeed in public service, to become a one-woman force for progress in our country.

    All of us who were lucky to know her and love her can only hope now to live like her—to be as passionate, loyal, hard charging, and joyful in life’s pursuits.

    Stephanie was one of a kind. We will miss our friend always.”

  201. This is the statement we’ve been waiting all day/night to hear. Thanks for posting, Alcina.

  202. Yikes, Alcina. What a lovely remembrance by the Clintons.

    All about Stephanie and not about their own loss. (Pay attention, MSNBC and CNN who keep lying about their self-absorption)

    Now that we’re into myths the MSM cannot let go:

    1. “Hillary voters — old white women — will come around — no problem” OWW doesn’t begin to describe Hillary voters and yes, Virginia, there IS a problem.

    2. “In the end, the economy will elect Obama”
    Haven’t they noticed that McCain leads on the economy now?

    3. “McCain’s ‘celebrity’ and ‘the one’ ads were silly or false or racist or stupid or reflected badly on McCain.” O’ Really? Look in your archives, big thinkers, and check “Where’s the beef?”

    4. “The anti-Obama books are false or old news.” Well, as somebody refutes the charges, there we’ll be, discussing Rezko, live birth bills, Ayers, Alice Miller, ‘present’ votes, Rev Wright, unifying,
    change………….I’m tired of typing, you get the idea.

  203. Good Mroning

    I think what is not understood here is that O does not like change, or doing what he does not like.

    So if the SDs think that is going to happen, they need to think again.

  204. You should see the people fingering these books in Costco and Sams. I seem them kind of sneaking a peek at the back cover, or checking out with a couple of books, including Obama Nation. They are White Men.

    Now I am not sure if my unscientific sampling means anything, but someone is buying it if it is #1. The other book is #5.

    The McCain books are not selling that well, along with Pelosi’s book.

  205. I thought he was really earnest, trying to explain who he was to an audience that largely disagreed with him. These weren’t his guys.”

    Listen to the pathetic excuses. But…but…but….this wasn’t his type of audience! Evangelicals don’t like Democrats anyway! Waaaaaaaah!

    Hmmm, funny, but another Liberal Democrat by the name of Hillary Clinton walked into that SAME congregation earlier this year, spoke her heart, and got a freaking STANDING OVATION!

  206. Well SDs where is the change of Plan.

    Do you remember IOWA and what happened. Who implimented a change of plan in one week? Who went forward shook up their staff, and started meeting with the unions, the people who belong to the unions (Nevada), going into the country, going to venues that did not like them?

    That is what is called taking an immediate corrective action, to successfully change your course.

    HRC did that, and she won the popular vote. The only reason she did not win over you is we all know, promises, bullying, money (we hear from several sources, and don’t worry we will figure it out) and fear.

    When you were elected to office, no one promised you it would be easy. I don’t think you thought it would be this hard.

    If you back your electorate, and Lose, you will be OK. If you don’t back your electorate and lose, you have a problem. Things do not look good.

    ARE YOU CAPABLE OF MAKING THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT HRC DID FOR NH?

    I hope so, because our very nation, your party, and your career depends on it.

  207. Obama’s lead in Pennsylvania is now only 3 with leaners included

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/election_2008_pennsylvania_presidential_election2

    Barack Obama leads John McCain by five percentage points in Pennsylvania for the second month in a row. Both candidates have lost some support from a month ago, with the Democrat now favored by 45% while his Republican opponent earns the vote from 40%.

    When “leaners” are included, Obama’s lead is down to just three points, 48% to 45%. A month ago, Obama led by six when leaners were included.

    This though is where Obama will lose in PA.

    The data in Pennsylvania reflects patterns seen elsewhere in recent polling. McCain has more support from Republicans than Obama does from Democrats, and McCain also wins more crossover votes from the other party. The two candidates are even among unaffiliated voters.

    Obama wins among younger voters and those who don’t attend church while McCain has a solid lead among senior citizens and regular churchgoers.

  208. Informed in Illinois, Hillary also kicked butt in the other Faith Forum against Obama, remember? Even Evangelicals responded to her, because in her case her quiet faith is REAL and DEEP, and they respect that. They recognized her true humility and struggle to know what’s right, to LIVE the true gospel, even if they disagree with her on some issues like choice.

    Obama couldn’t reach them not because he’s a Dem, but because he’s a phony, using “faith talk” as a political ploy.

  209. He is in trouble in every important BLUE state. So I guess the SDs believe that the circus in the football field will pole vault him to double digits.

    HE HAS FAILED TO PERFORM REALLY MUCH SINCE IOWA (THAT STRING OF WINS WAS IN RED STATES).

    OH WHAT DOES EXPERIENCE AND PERFORMANCE MATTER. HIS TELEPROMPTER SERMONS SHOULD DO IT FOR YOU.

  210. I got a cartoon the other day that showed McCain before a half empty gathering. Frankly I was offended. But what they should have shown on each one attending is a sign saying faithful voter.

    Then O before a huge crowd labeled not registered, don’t vote, etc. You get my point.

    As soon as the convention is over (of course McCain will not have a coronation in a foodtball field), McCain will head to the country side, the vets gatherings (where he can wear his vets cap), the retirement centers, the vet hospital, the small home gatherings, the churches, the fertile ground of dependable voters. His plane will have a flag on the tail, he will wear a flag pen with pride, and he will cross his heart when they pledge the flag. (But of course his real patriotism was shown in the POW camp).

    O will give another sermon someplace which a rock band has warmed up for him. They will force him to put on the flag pin, and he will talk about how patriotic he is (words not deeds).

    He will have his private gatherings, but it will be with the big donor, and probably a conference call or two with the far east.

    If you think the worst has come out, all I can say is I hope so. If I were McCain, I would have something ready right after the Dems election to counter any possible bump.

    The Reps obviously see an opportunity to win here. Who would have thought this possible. I wonder if your electorate will understand how you helped blow it.

  211. H4T, I couldn’t agree with you more. Hillary’s faith is deep, abiding, personal and universal. She doesn’t parade it around like some kind of job qualification. It’s part of who she is… and she knows herself. Our hero Hillary is grounded in her fully formed character.

    BHO’s main problem, IMO, isn’t who WE think he is, OR who HE thinks he is, OR that WE don’t know him. It’s that HE doesn’t know who he is – himself. As Admin has so aptly written, Stinky’s personality is that of the ultimate flim-flam artist on a road trip to find himself at the expense of others.

  212. I have a deep feelinh that Hillary has all of the negative facts about Obama that FOX is waiting to unload.Fox has tossing light stuff and waiting to see who will be his chpice for VP.Tf Hillary accepts ,Fox will have a real problem as Obama will have fallen and She will be out in front of everyone and impossible to stop.That is why I feel that if she accepts VP post it will all be aimed at preserving party unity.If she refuses it would be a certain victory for the him and his Muslim world of mislead supporters.Never underestimate the love and devotion of this great Lady for her country and her people.Patience and preparation are the key elements needed by wise and experienced Big Game Hunters and seasoned but honest political leaders.It is almost time for the big hunt and just watch our Girl display her skills as no other presidential candidate in our history. If she does not succeed it will be because we failed her.No matter the outcome in the words of Gen Douglass McAurther upon his retreat from Corregador, ” I WILL BE BACK ”

    By ABM90 “IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE”

  213. Informed in Illinois

    I agree, that he has not determined who he is yet.

    When he says people will like me when they know me. I am not even sure he knows himself.

  214. Good Morining!!! I had a thought. During the Primary Election, Obama campagined against the “Washington establishment”. So, would’nt Biden and Bayh considered the “Washington establishment”? With that to be said, Obama’s only option is, the Governor of Virgginia or Governor of Kansas.

  215. LOL…new task for us Hillary soldiers:’

    Go into your bookstores and move a negative Obama book to the front of a pro-Obama book. Hide the propaganda in other words!

    Just kidding! 🙂

  216. According to the NYT, Obama is now using Bill Clinton’s message to “fight for you every day.”

    Can Bill sue for thought stealing? 😉

  217. JanH

    So what proof do we have that he is capable of that. He has never fought through a piece of legislation, let along anything else.

  218. Have to correct that Gen. Mac quote. I Will RETURN.

    Sorry about that. I guess old age is approaching.

    By ABM90

  219. WTF, Obama’s infers blame for Russian invasion on the U.S.

    Yesterday, Barack Obama told a Virginia audience “We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies. They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”

    Faced with a geopolitical challenge that demands unwavering Western fortitude and American stewardship, Barack Obama apologizes for the misuse of American strength and initiative. This speaks of a worldview in which America’s faults are always kept at the fore and a national security paradigm in which the U.S. must seek to understand enemy action as a manifestation of American arrogance. This worldview leaves us dangerously ill-equipped to tackle or even contain antagonists like Vladimir Putin and company.

    Oh I so want this son of a bitch nailed.

  220. NewMexicoFan,

    Exactly! His motto should be: I’ll fight for myself every day and throw the rest of you under the bus!

  221. I think Biden has been there longer than McCain — he IS the Wash. establishment. Makes it sorta tough for BO….

  222. New Jersy Obama Vote “soft”

    Now theres an understatement.

    Few will declare it outright, but off the record people talk about soft versus solid support, and when it comes to Hillary Clinton conqueror Sen. Barack Obama (D-Il), some of his party support in New Jersey remains soft.

    With that in mind, and heading into the Democratic National Convention, Assembly Speaker Joseph Roberts (D-Camden) today called on his fellow Democrats to jettison the angst and hurt feelings and focus on getting Obama elected president.

    In a state where she triumphed by ten points, “there are a number of people still frustrated that Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) got a bad deal this year,” acknowledged Roberts.

  223. JanH, I’ve already done that! I also hide the Hillary hit books. 🙂

    BTW, I got outraged emails from various Dem groups when Corsi’s Obama book came out. They were all up in arms how all we Democrats should band together and protest the terrible smears. Not because it’s Obama, oh no, but for the PRINCIPLE of standing up for leading Dems.

    I wrote them all back (disgustedly), asking how many books full of lies about Hillary and Bill have come out recently, and not ONCE did party leaders email party members asking us to defend them! Not once.

    I said, “You guys never opened your mouth in one peep to defend Hillary from smears. She took the hits all alone. Your Chosen One can grow some balls and do the same. She’s still standing after 16 years of it. I doubt Obama will be”

  224. Hillary for Texas

    Amen

    Ask the Farmers of upstate NY, many of which were Reps, if she stood up for them. Being bi-partisen and American is her middle name. O wants to be international at the cost of America.

  225. Obama spent the entire primary season running like a pissy-pants baby to Brazile and Clyburn and Pelosi and Dean to defend him against that terrible mean Hillary. And they did. Every time.

    He’s like the kid on the playground who always runs to mommy, who always protects her dear precious, and he never learns to stand on his own. Then one day he’s all grown up, and in a bar shooting off his mouth as he’s learned to do. He finds out the hard way that there’s no Mommy to run to any more, and he is going to get his ASS KICKED in the real world.

    I predict that he’ll spend the general election whining and crying “Mommy make them STOOOOOOOOPPPP!!” while the Republicans laugh at Clyburn and Dean and Pelosi’s outrage, and kick the snot out of the skinny idiot.

  226. Informed, I’ve raised 4 kids. I learned early on that I would do them no favors if I constantly rescued them from every personal conflict. They gotta learn.

  227. 9. Chicago Group: this is the faction that originally spawned Obama. Therefore he owes primary allegiance to them. They see him as a front man in their ambition to go national and international. They are the most corrupt political group in the country. The nucleus of this group is the political machine of Richard Daley Jr. Recently, his patronage chief Robert Sorich was sentenced to 40 months in jail for campaign related violations. This is not the same machine that ran the city under his father. This one is more diverse and dangerous. The key members include the infamous black liberation theologian Reverend Wright of Trinity Church; convicted political fixer and real estate magnate Tony Rezko whose interests extended to Iraq; Iraqi billionaire Auchi who lives in London and has been implicated in major international scams, i.e. Elf in France, etc.; Iraqi expatriate Alsammarae who was Minister of Electricity, when billions of dollars of US aid disappeared, and now lives in Illinois; and a group of business interests who seek to extend their profit making ventures worldwide, sometimes referred to as the Goose Lake group which is a combination of old and new money. Obama has never confronted the Chicago corruption problem because as one author put it his donors and allies are the Chicago corruption problem. That is a major concern because 50% of the voting machines in the country can be hacked. It also fuels speculation on why he moved the DNC to Chicago when he will be in Washington–assuming his toxic dream comes to fruition.

  228. Fall Debate Schedule Announced:

    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/fall_debate_schedule_announced.html

  229. ABM90 Says:

    August 21st, 2008 at 10:19 am
    Have to correct that Gen. Mac quote. I Will RETURN.

    Sorry about that. I guess old age is approaching.

    By ABM90
    ——————————————–

    ABM90: Here’s looking at you kid!

    Old soldiers never die
    They definitely do not fade away
    When they reach 90 they are an inspiration
    to all of us

    Furthermore- I will never again be able to look at Poosie without thinking of a taxidermist lament about the one that got away.

  230. McCain will probably win Michigan and here’s why.

    Among all of the 2008 presidential battlegrounds, Democratic-leaning Michigan – with 8.5 percent unemployment and an auto-industry economy in deep recession – should be an easy slam-dunk for Sen. Barack Obama.

    But the freshman senator from neighboring Illinois remains stuck in a dead heat in the state against Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, who is “within striking distance of winning, strange as that may sound,” veteran Michigan election analyst Bill Ballenger said Tuesday.

    Mr. Obama narrowly leads his Republican rival by 3.2 percent, 46 percent to 42.8 percent, according to the Real Clear Politics Web site, which tracks the presidential campaign polls and maintains a running state-by-state average for all of them.

    “We have Obama with a 2 point lead, 43 percent to 41 percent, and a few months before that McCain held a 4 point lead,” said Michigan pollster Bernie Porn, president of EPIC/MRA. “With the economy the way it is and higher gas prices, it’s a perfect storm nationwide for the Democrats, but the race is tight here, and I think right now the undecideds would break for McCain.”
    …..
    Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm, a Democrat in her second term, is being increasingly blamed by voters for her handling of the state’s troubled economy, and the Republican Party’s campaign to end the ban on increased offshore oil drilling has won support across the state’s political spectrum, pollsters said. Mr. Obama supports the moratorium.

    “During the 2006 gubernatorial race, when we asked voters who do you blame for the state’s economic situation, they always blamed Bush more than Granholm. This last poll we did, they narrowly blamed Granholm more than Bush,” he said

  231. Sorry-the word is Poopsie. This is the classic trophy girl friend of the late middle age wreck looking to rekindled the lost passions of youth. She is someone who plays him for all he is worth and knows in her heart that diamonds are a girls best friend. Here’s looking at you Nancy Poopsie.

  232. McCain, Obama agree on fall debates (AP, 55 minutes ago)

    John McCain and Barack Obama have agreed to hold three presidential debates and one vice presidential debate this fall, the campaigns said in a joint statement Thursday that outlined formats, dates and locations.

    The Commission on Presidential Debates will sponsor the events.

    The first, on Sept. 26 at the University of Mississippi, will focus on foreign policy and national security, and McCain and Obama will answer questions from moderator Jim Lehrer while standing at podiums.

    On Oct. 7, the two will meet again for a town-hall style debate at Belmont University. Moderator Tom Brokaw will call on audience members and pose questions submitted through the Internet.

    The third presidential debate, on domestic and economic policy, is slated for Oct. 15 at Hofstra University. McCain and Obama will sit at a table with moderator Bob Schieffer.

    Vice presidential contenders are to meet Oct. 2 at Washington University in St. Louis.

  233. HillaryforTexas: for some time now I have been worried about Pelosi’s problem. I have had minor surgery around the eyes-really minor but that is perhaps why I am sensitive to it. So I look at her and I think to myself. Five face lifts in a row and the skin gets so tight that you could bounce quarters off it and things have been stretched to their anatomical limits. Once more and that smile of hers will be permanent. Then ABM 90 gave me the answer right out of the blue–forget about these plastic surgeons–go to a taxidermist. Well okay you did ask me to elaborate.

  234. At home with John and Cindy
    A tour of McCain’s many properties.
    August 21, 2008 10:41 AM

    blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/08/at_home_with_john_and_cindy.html
    *****************************************************
    Why is Team Obama making this a campaign issue? This is only going to reinforce the Republicans meme of “redistubistion of wealth” from those how work hard and earn their money. Which I do believe in Obama case he is campaigning on this…I’ve seen too many Obama supporters in the media (foreign and domestic) push this marxist and communist dogma.

    This is America and not Europe or Russia where family dynasties lasted for centuries and those dynasties control 99% of all the wealth. It bothers me alot when this British writer focus on McCain modest southwest ranch as this binge in wealthy living….while everyday the E chanel, MTV or Bravo show Celebrities in all fields showing off their Bling.

    MTV popular show called Cribs come to mind and John Edwards, Al Gore, Minister Louis Farrakhan and his golden temple in Chicago, Barack Obama, John Kerry and others with their many homes and expensive clothes are either hypocrites or “living the American dream.”

  235. carbynew,

    They are trying to use any distraction to get the heat off of Obama…hence McCain’s military and housing.

    What a joke! 😉

  236. Hillary for Texas: Here is ABM 90’s quote:

    “The pressure of self inflicted bad decision making has left its mark on Pelosi.She surely looks like the Botox is creating reverse osmosis.Bad ideas and bad judgement can take its toll on a woman obssesed with the desire to remain forever young.I look at Helen Thomas and see a woman of character doing her job as an outstanding journalist and projecting sincerity and truth.I look at Nancy Pelosi and I see a confused and out of sync woman yhat is badly in need of an appointment with her Taxidermist..

    By ABM90.”

  237. Anything to take the heat off Bambi. Whats with the VP thing, its taking forever, why the delay, is the plan just to announce Hillary just before the convention to stop the wingnut bamabots going apeshit.

  238. If Pelosi has any more facelifts, she’ll be able to blink her lips, shave her beard and wear a bra on her face.

  239. McCain needs to respond to the house ad:

    “I may not know how many houses my wife owns, but I do know that she qualified for the purchases without any under-the-table help from a Chicago slumlord.”

  240. When you can not beat some one at a game, you try a distraction so that people will forget or not notice.

    He failed the 2 a.m. phone call test, and the religious test. Both of which McCain passed with A+. So he is going to pick on his war record (so what can they find there, after all Kerry threw his medals away) or his homes (maybe we should discuss his Chicago house deal again).

  241. or

    yes I own some property, i paid full price and without taking discounts from friendly arab slumlords who froze people to death.

  242. So have there been any scientific studies proving that multiple facelifts can cause massive ego bursts of grand delusion among other things like warped thinking and idol worshipping?

  243. LOL! I see that McCain already took my advice! Part of his immediate response:

    “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?

  244. Pelosi: “God has blessed us with Obama! I see the wings of a dove……”

    Me: No, Nancy, that’s your neck skin floating in front of your eyes.

  245. OMG! I am loving McCain. I can just see him rolling his eyes. The Dems are becoming a huge one-line joke! 🙂

  246. lol, so fucking funny. Hilarious, i hope thats all over the news.

    McCain is turning into a luagh a minute.

    I’m beginning to enjoy watching McCain.

  247. Again, the Precious is acting like this is still the primary. Hillary could not have said what McCain said without howls of protest from her own wimpy party.

    We tried to tell them that the general would have ENTIRELY different rules, but they wouldn’t listen. Grandpa is going to eat his lunch.

  248. Obama needs to go back into hiding. He’s not ready for the big league. The Obama group are the new “not ready for prime time players!” 😉

  249. “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?

    Holy shit!! Go Johnny, GO!!!

  250. Holy shit!! Go Johnny, GO!!!

    LOL! You said it! Da Precious done been SERVED by the old cranky geezer!!!!

  251. Now McCain needs to consider this his opening to blast Percious on Rezko. Make him respond defensively. Precious ALWAYS fucks up when he’s on the defense.

  252. Go Johnny, GO!

    The Republicans are the adults in this race. It is very sad, if we are rooting for the Republican candidate. Just shows, how slimey and inadequate the democratic presumptous nominee really is. Shame on the DNC.

  253. The thing is Obama is single handedly destroying his mantra of being a different politician with all these lousy attacks.

    I mean, he’s harping on about bringing a new politics, these attacks just show its complete bollocks.

    I’ve said if Obama goes negative he will be seen as just another politician and its happening.

    What McCain has to do is say “change, what change”, same old angry political attacks from the democrats”.

  254. After 18 months on the trail, this is the closest he’s come to a memorable ad. Seriously. I wrote about this line of attack back when David Brock floated his “sugar mommy” turd. It’ll help Obama marginally — the appeal of class warfare is evergreen, especially in a bad economy — but it’d help a lot more if McCain actually looked the part Obama’s trying to make him play. Americans are used to the idea of politicians being filthy rich; it’s not wealth itself that puts fangs into the attack, it’s how wealth suggests luxury, entitlement, softness, and selfishness. Good luck with that, Barry. The instant response from McCain HQ:

    Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people “cling” to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?

    The reality is that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes and opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices skyrocket show he’s completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans. –McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

    It’s high time for a Rezko ad, just like it was high time for an Ayers ad yesterday. Still, an embarrassing gaffe this morning in forgetting how many homes he owns, nearly matched by the embarrassing lameness of Tim Kaine’s third-grade bon mot in reply. Was the Nelson Muntz “ha-ha” sound effect not available? Exit question: Is this final, definitive proof that Hillary’s not going to be VP? Surely Obama wouldn’t drop this ad and then turn around and put the $100-million-dollar woman on the ticket.

    Update: Prepare for Rezko-mania: The McCain camp is e-mailing around Freddoso’s op-ed about him in today’s New York Post. Oh, the fun we’ll have with that Hillary “slum lord” soundbite if she’s the nominee

  255. Yup he just raised the spectre of Rezko again and the thing is Bambi opened the door all by himself, such a dumbass rookie.

  256. “There those democrats go again, trying to convince you that it’s somehow a sin to achieve the American Dream.”

    Jesus, I could write the lines that Bambi is opening himself up to all day. I’ve seen it a million times. Have these idiots never WATCHED a general election, that they are so stupid?

  257. Obama’s such a dumbass. McCain could fling back and say, it wasnt such a problem for the democrats when Obama’s friend John Kerry ran for the whitehouse and he’s got more money than the rest of us put together.

  258. also, lets not forget Obama’s other endorsement and friend with a massive fortune, John Edwards.

    Word to Obama.

    Do not fling stones at glass houses when your best mates have more money.

  259. There any number of angles they could hit on, if Obama wants to go down that road and it could take out a number of senators and candidates who have massive fortunes.

    McCain could also try the “at least i remember what votes i’ve taken in the past, yes and no but never present.”

  260. He is so outclassed in how to win an election, it’s pitiful. This is only the tip of the iceberg. The Republicans will laugh in his face at his usual defenses: self-righteous shock, play the race card, run to the Dem poobahs to make the bad man stop.

    None of that is going to work anymore, Precious. You’ve had BB’s shot at you so far, and thought you were a gallant hero. Get ready for bazookas and surface to air missiles.

  261. OMG! I love it!

    “The tide has turned for The Precious, The One, The Eloquent and Elegant and Lithe and Liquid and Cool as a Cucumber – except for those unfortunate stick legs (which explain the sweats on the basketball court).”

    news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1114212&srvc=home&position=active

  262. This is going be seen as pure desperation by Obama. Why is he attacking and not offering solutions.

    His new wacko ad is going to backfire asking people “how many homes do you own” yeah that stupid ad is really going to appeal to the millions of people who now face repossession. I’d be pissed if I was on the brink of losing my home and that ad came on tv.

    What an ass.

  263. To me it does not look like they had a plan for the GE other than get Hillary to quit so her followers will fold in, go to Europe and be present at the religous discussion.

    I think he felt that is all it would take to be in double digits now.

    So at the eleventh hour, right before his glorious coronation, O is going negative, as that 72 year old man, without doing much at all (well he did study for the religous discussion at least), and really trying to hold back blazes by you.

    I bet McCain and the Reps are saying Holy Shit. We were planning on just rolling over if it was HRC. Now we might be able to win this thing.

  264. I have this cartoon in mind where O is jumping up and down as the rabbit saying over and over I AM THE ONE YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR, and this old Turtle on a skate board trying to hold himself back as he wizzes by the rabbit, say Oh YA.

    I sure wish I could draw sometimes.

  265. This is McCains fire back right here.

    We are in the middle of an economic crisis and Obama is asking you “how many homes do you have, Well Mr Obama, why don’t you ask all the people who have just lost there home through job losses, repossession with families kicked out into the street or just about to lose them, well how many homes do they have, instead of attacking me, what is your solution for making sure they have a home”

  266. nmf: LOL!

    Everyone knows, that the waffle man exercises 3 times/day. How does anyone, much less, a presidential candidate, have that much time to exercise?

  267. birdgal

    A sign of an addictive personality. So what other addictions does he have?

    You also have to wonder if he will have any time to be President.

  268. Well since Obama went down this road…it left Nancy Pelosi open for attacks.

    Since Nancy Pelosi is one of the richest Speakers we’ve run the House- Democrat or Republican.

    GMAB! My family comes for good ol’ Texas Sharecropper stock and everyone own houses, some even have multiple homes…none are rich just working middle class and good ol American programs-V.A loans, New buyers, retirement savings, 401k.

    This is the land of opportunity…I mean my good neighbors, whom some are here illegally own homes too.

    Obama is WEAK!!!

  269. You have it all wrong Nancy P.God did not bless us with a Messiah with the wings of a dove.You ,Donna and Howie have cursed us with a sack of self love.But there is hope as he proclaims for I notice a mark change in the smooth and phoney smile that he once conveyed and now is a split second transition from joy to deep worry.This fraud is running scared and he is turning to anger and criticism for all who would have the audacity to question his judgements.I describe him as ” A wind blown gas bag on a popcorn desert “.All dried up.

    BY ABM90

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