Internal Memoranda, Part II

Big Media will fight for its tool – Barack Obama. To that end Big Media will attack, slime, and smear Obama opponents and protect Obama friends.

During the primary season, Big Media reporters encouraged and aided by the Obama campaign, slimed and smeared Bill Clinton and John McCain about S-E-X.

Last week news broke of an article, published yesterday, containing Clinton campaign internal memoranda. The article ensured that this week the line of attack from Big Media outlets would be how the ‘Clinton camp was in disarray’ during the primary season. Would the anti-Clinton attack be echoed with a similar attack on John McCain?

Sure enough, on Sunday disarray followed S-E-X. McCain disarray followed Clinton disarray. Unsurprisingly the attack on McCain came from the The New York Times. The New York Times published an article on Sunday contending that the ‘Mcain camp is in disarray’.

Mr. McCain is known to sign off on big campaign decisions and then to march off his own reservation. Two weeks ago, he publicly disagreed with his own spokeswoman, Jill Hazelbaker, after she used a line of attack against Senator Barack Obama that he had approved after careful strategizing within his campaign. Ms. Hazelbaker raced out of the Virginia campaign headquarters and refused to take Mr. McCain’s calls of apology, aides said, and a plan to have Republican members of Congress use the same critical line about Mr. Obama’s foreign trip fell apart.

Out of his hearing, Mr. McCain is called the White Tornado by some people who have worked for him over the years. Throughout his presidential campaign, he has been the overseer of a kingdom of dissenting camps, unclear lines of command and an unsettled atmosphere that keeps aides constantly on edge.

Even now, after a shake-up that aides said had brought an unusual degree of order to Mr. McCain’s disorderly world in the last month, two of his pollsters are at odds over parts of the campaign’s message, while past and current aides have been trading snippy exchanges debating the wisdom of attack advertisements he has aimed at Mr. Obama.

Any campaign that is against Big Media tool Barack Obama is labeled to be in “disarray“. McCain defends his decision making process.

In an interview, Mr. McCain said he believed an organization consisting of sometimes colliding centers of power made sure that a candidate, or a president, reached fully informed decisions. “You’ve got to have competing opinions,” he said.

“I think a certain amount of tension is very healthy, and a certain amount of different views,” he said. “Because of the bubble that a president is in, and the bubble that a candidate is in, sometimes you find out afterwards something that — ‘Oh boy, I wish I had heard thus and such and so and so.’ So I appreciate and want some of the tension; I don’t want too much of it, obviously, because we have to have certain efficiencies. But I think there is a balance there.”

The ‘McCain campaign in disarray’ article, like the ‘Hillary campaign in disarray’ articles are Big Media created narratives. The McCain article notes how “Mr. McCain hungers for information” and how “studious” and “well informed and flexible” McCain is. Nevertheless, the Big Media narrative is still “McCain campaign in disarrary”.

But if Mr. McCain’s management style has kept him well informed and flexible, its drawbacks have been especially evident in the many often turbulent months since he began his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. It offers a contrast to the more rigidly controlled and nearly corporate management style that has marked the campaign of Mr. Obama, his Democratic counterpart. If anything, it recalls the freewheeling ways of the last Republican senator to win his party’s presidential nomination, Bob Dole in 1996.

Mr. McCain’s style contains contradictions, veering between a shoot-from-the-hip tendency and assertions of damn-the-consequences authenticity on the one hand and a grudging acceptance on the other of the need to give in to the discipline of programmed politics. While he avidly seeks advice and contrary opinions, he routinely resists basic political counseling, such as when aides pleaded with him not to campaign sitting on a horseshoe-shaped couch in the back of his bus because they feared it made him look like an old man rumbling around the country in an R.V. He refused.

His management of his campaign offers a glimpse of how he might run the White House. He would, it appears, be a president who is intensely interested in issues (particularly foreign affairs) and open to conflicting opinions, but also impetuous at times and tolerant of the kind of internal churning that can impede orderly decision-making and keep aides on edge.

While President Bush has been criticized for being too insular and too slow to adapt to changing circumstances, Mr. McCain’s leadership of his campaign suggests a less hierarchical, more free-form style, much closer to that of President Bill Clinton.

Oh, that bad boy Bill Clinton. Big Media gets down to what really bothers them: John McCain is just like bad boy Bill Clinton. First the S-E-X, then the management styles – John McCain = Bill Clinton. Big Media is so predictable. And by-the-way the McCain disarrary “looms as a potential obstacle to his hopes of getting to the White House”.

His campaign has been rocked by personnel changes and often well-publicized differences. And for all the efforts to maintain discipline, he continues to be plagued by misstatements and apparent gaffes as he at times bucks what his own campaign is trying to do. After his campaign spent days mocking Mr. Obama for suggesting that proper tire pressure was one way of conserving fuel, Mr. McCain undercut the message, stating : “Senator Obama a couple of days ago said that we ought to all inflate our tires, and I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it.”

As Mr. Obama’s campaign pounced on the remark, the McCain campaign quickly sent out an e-mail message to reporters noting that Mr. McCain had gone on to say that he did not believe that would lead to energy independence.

Disarrary, disarrary, disarray:

Yet even now the campaign continues to have its share of drama. Several Republicans in regular contact with the campaign said two pollsters, Mr. McInturff and Ed Goeas, had fundamental differences over the campaign’s message. They said the two differed over the degree to which Mr. McCain should establish his differences with Mr. Bush and the extent to which he should run on a “Washington is broken” message, which Mr. Goeas supports.

Mr. McInturff declined to comment when asked about the divisions. But, he said more broadly, “there can be differences of thought, but campaigns don’t collapse because you have differences of opinion.” Mr. Goeas did not return calls.

Mr. McCain also tolerates, or, some aides said, encourages, tension in his upper ranks. He did nothing to tamp down a wave of speculation this summer that his former chief campaign strategist, Mike Murphy, would be brought back into the fold, reports that set off waves of tensions among other aides who had a history of battling with Mr. Murphy. Mr. Murphy ultimately announced he was taking a job at MSNBC.

Take all the Big Media attacks on Hillary Clinton, substitute John McCain’s name for Hillary’s and you have the next few months of articles to be written, before they are published.

Disarrary is a Big Media narrative to force-feed their tool Barack Obama to voters. That dastard and do-nothing Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a mess don’t you know:

Yet Jackson is frank about F.D.R.’s failings. Among them is the president’s erratic management style — his habit of committing himself in a hurry and making ”snap judgments on insufficient information,” especially on economic matters. [snip]

Although Jackson scores little more than a mention here, Jenkins echoes his view of Roosevelt as a paradox — or, in Jenkins’s words, as ”a hero who had many unheroic characteristics,” who showed ”calmness of strategic judgment” despite a ”habitual ambiguity,” who ”nudged his way” toward sweeping societal change more by improvisation than design.

That dastard FDR, why he is just like Bill Clinton. A 1993 assessment:

President Clinton has shown a keen desire to emulate two strong and charismatic presidents: Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. And his emulation of FDR is especially strong.

On the domestic front, Clinton has attempted nothing less than a second economic revolution in American history — even though the current sluggish economy hardly warrants the drastic measures suitable Depression.

But it’s in foreign affairs that Clinton most closely (and not to his credit) resembles FDR, adopting Roosevelt’s dissembling and often seemingly vacillating style without achieving Rooseveltian results or displaying a clear goal.

FDR’s White House style, most scholars conclude today, was characterized by confusion, by a profusion of aides who spent much of their time trying to outguess and anticipate the president, and by the practice of surrogate diplomacy that tended to cover up the president’s indecision. Roosevelt was notorious for his tendency to procrastinate, waiting for events to spur policy, never designing a strategy for dealing with impending or actual war.

Clinton’s decision-making process in foreign policy, such as it is, strongly resembles FDR’s. It suffers markedly from a plurality of channels and information. When he’s forced to focus on foreign policy, which he does reluctantly, he tends to handle it on his own, blocking out advisers or keeping his real intentions from them. Like Roosevelt, he wants to hold all the cards and keep them close to his vest, a tendency that frustrates advisers and allies and sends confusing signals to international rivals. Clinton’s unorthodox management style is in the classic Rooseveltian mode — except that it is ineffective.

Nothing illustrates this more than the principal foreign policy crisis that the Clinton administration has had to deal with — Bosnia. The Clinton policy there has resembled a whirling dervish. In a matter of two weeks, Clinton turned 180 degrees, from what looked like a determination to intervene to a halting, confused withdrawal and retreat, without ever actually doing anything. He went from advocating air strikes and possible use of troops to protect the United Nations force to the idea of “safe havens.” First he showed a desire to roll back Serbian conquests as part of any settlement. Now he’s quietly accepting the status quo. All this smacks of Roosevelt’s early efforts to appease Adolf Hitler. Now Clinton is slowly being. moved to deal with Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic, hoping he can contain the fanatical and stubborn Bosnian Serbs.

Yeah, that Bosnia business really turned out badly. In fact, it was a major foreign policy success as was the Clinton style in Ireland and the Middle East and the Koreas.

The “disarrary” narrative is a Big Media creation to tar anyone who opposes Big Media tool Barack Obama.

Fact is, all campaigns are in disarray. At some point all campaigns have infighting and scandal hidden from the public. The question is what gets reported. Is there infighting and disarray in the Obama campaign? Without doubt yes. The difference is the Big Media narrative has no room for ‘Obama in disarray’ stories.

Was there disarray in the Obama camp every time Obama publically blamed the staff for his own latest errors? Was there disarray in the Obama camp when they were behind in the polls, used that ridiculous seal, orchestrated the gay-bashing tour, during the ‘bitter’ and ‘clingy’ remarks, the Rezko scandal, the Wright disaster? Of course there was disarrary, and Big Media knows it, but they won’t write about it because they don’t want to “burn” their sources in the Chicago thug machine known as the Obama campaign in the same way they did not want to burn Reille Hunter as a source in the Edwards campaign.

But rest assured, when Obama concedes either in August or November, we will all be treated to the stories about infighting in the Obama campaign that we are not allowed to read now.

Remember John Edwards? Good family man. All the reporters and websites now declaring themselves in the know about Edwards kept quiet when it mattered, before the actual primary voting began. The Edwards sex story appeared in the National Enquirer in December of 2007 about the couplings in 2006. But John Edwards was not Hillary, Edwards only attacked Hillary, so he was protected. Not one Big Media reporter bothered to investigate John Edwards whose sex partner was on the campaign payroll. Millions of Americans googled for information on the Edwards sex scandal. But, Big Media was fixated on Bill Clinton’s sex life and on John McCain’s sex life. Big Media hunted those who threatened their tool – Barack Obama.

John Edwards had a happy marriage. Now People magazine reports it was a marriage filled with anguish not happiness. John and Elizabeth Edwards used to mock the marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton as not happy. John and Elizabeth claimed they were happy publically, but now they declare that in fact they were in “anguish”. The Obama campaign is not in disarrary, now. Wait until Obama concedes to learn about the “excruciating anguish “.

Politico notes that

In the primary, the perception of a Clinton “attack machine” created a dominant impression that she was the most negative of candidates, even before she got over an unwillingness to attack Obama, and even after Obama attacked her.

Now, as Obama sharpens and amplifies a negative message against McCain, a key question is if he can — again — keep the perceived high ground that McCain’s recent hyperbolic attack ads gave him, even while punching hard.

Obama threw mud at Bill and Hillary Clinton in anonymous memoranda, and along with John Edwards attacked Hillary’s character. Big Media finally is getting around to John Edward’s character but has thus far given a pass to Barack Obama’s slimy character. Big Media is busy fixating on Clinton internal memoranda instead of hunting for all the hidden Obama state senate records, billing records and home purchases records and ethics.

Was there disarrary and backbiting and nastiness in the Clinton campaign? Of course. Did that disarrary keep Hillary Clinton from getting the most votes, from winning the big Democratic states with big electoral votes needed in November, from making a connection to voters that are usually resistant to Democrats? NO.

Did Big Media parrotting of Obama attacks along with sexism and misogyny and a suicidal pact of self-interested Obama supporters at the Democratic National Committee attack Hillary constantly and rig the process? YES.

[In Part III we will examine the content of the Clinton internal memoranda and weigh in on the substance of their contents.]

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274 thoughts on “Internal Memoranda, Part II

  1. Great article Admin.

    Its amazing this convention is full of the most lacklustre dull speakers ever assembled.

    MO, Casey, Sebelius (bore), warner, kerry, pelosi, dean. I can’t think of a better excuse to turn the sound down. Half the american people may die of boredom listening to this lot.

  2. well being in disarray, sure looks good on all those nobama
    ads that john mccains been putting out…

    in 18 million minds, we would like to see a day, we can take back
    the white house, and our news information…

    they arent pac bell, why do they have so much power?

  3. Moononpluto…you got that right…the most boring speakers in the dem party…with the exception of Hill and Bill…

    ADMIN…don’t forget how the media now tells us that anything that is critical of Obama is just lies…ie…Obama Nation book, etc…I have never seen a media conglomerate that essentially does the work for one candidate…

    amazing…

    how about those cages the DNC and Denver authorities have ready for any dissent in Denver…those “volunteers” better make sure they do their seven hours indentured servitude to maybe get a chance to get a ticket to see Obama or god knows where they will end up…

  4. ACTION ALERT!

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    And please, spread this far and wide!!!

  5. scroll down to the comment section on this article…very eye opening…

    ridgeliner7.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/obama-landslide-scenario-very-unlikely-4-in-10-undecided/

  6. Listening to Riverdaughter’s radio show. The guy, that has been filming the documentary on the election, had ALL of his photographic equipment lifted from his luggage. The bags were there, but they were empty. This happened on a major airline, and was after, the conference last weekend. Luckily, none of the film was lost, but the person needs help to replace all his equipment, which has been gathered over years.

  7. Excellent article admin, but I must differ about one particular point. These little boys masquerading as talented and ethical news people no longer deserve the label of “Big Media.” We need to think of something a little more believable where these egotistical morons are concerned.

  8. So now I’m wondering if indeed Mo and her brother are headlining the loser convention, what next? Family movies that will send a tingle and be reported ad nauseum by the “little media.”

  9. Jen the Michigander Says:

    August 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
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    DONE

  10. basil9 Says:
    Does anyone have anything optimistic? Please?
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    There may be an injunction filed to prevent dnc from nominating obama until he can prove legal citizenship under Article 2. Also, are reported to be five (5) michelle obama tapes which the republicans will release on a weekly basis starting in September. We have been providing some information to some people and they are giving me the sense that they are way ahead of us.

  11. So, Tuesday night will not be about Women’s Right To Vote, but will focus on the economy. Women have been thrown under the bus, once again.

  12. Okay excuse me and I don’t mean to yank this conversation off track, but: oh. my. God. The United States military has just been deployed to Georgia by the White House. Foreign policy will dominate the headlines for days. Advantage, McCain.

  13. So let me get this straight, The Tuesday night at the convention is headlined as the anniversary of women getting the right to vote and the addresses that evening are :

    Key Speaker : Mark Warner (anti gay) , Bob Casey (anti choice) and Hillary (the one women to break a huge ceiling for women) and she gets relegated to a crappy speech.

    Anyone else see whats wrong with this picture.

  14. Actually, I was talking about the Ga. news, lol, but the convention news deserves the same reaction. 🙂

  15. Berkeley Vox Says:

    August 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
    Okay excuse me and I don’t mean to yank this conversation off track, but: oh. my. God. The United States military has just been deployed to Georgia by the White House. Foreign policy will dominate the headlines for days. Advantage, McCain.
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    Amen. Maybe Bambi should rustle up Aminijad, Chavez, Castro and the four to them could go over over and have high tea with . . . .

    NEWS FLASH

    WOW CONFLOYLD: THEY HAVE GOT HIM/ LOLO SOTERO LISTED BARRY SOTERO SHOWING HIM INDONESIAN CITIZENSHIP. LIED TO ILLINOS SUPREME COURT WHEN HE APPLIED FOR LICENSE AS BARACK OBAMA AND INDICATED NO PRIOR NAME. HE IS A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD.

    CONFLOYD YOU ARE A GENIUS. KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY TIL ALL THIS GETS CONFIRMED/

  16. moon: I was reading on a couple of other sites, and the Tuesday night list is long:

    Let’s review all that’s come to light since the day began.

    Keynote Speaker: Not Hillary, Mark Warner (yes, Who?? is the appropriate response. )

    Bob Casey — the PA DINO himself — shall be speaking along with the esteemed Senator from NY on Women’s Equality Day. Somewhere somehow NARAL & EMILYs List and Planned Parenthood should be hanging their head.

    Deval Patrick — aka Barack Obama 1.0 — will be there with Hillary giving Barack’s speech first so that Barack knows what to say.

    the Tuesday lineup will also include Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano, Governors Ted Strickland of Ohio and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, Senator Bob Casey, Jr. of Pennsylvania and Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana and Federico Peña, former Mayor of Denver and Secretary of both Energy and Transportation.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/pumarella/#comments

  17. Russia pressed the United States on Wednesday to choose between “a real partnership” with Moscow or an “illusory” relationship with U.S. ally Georgia.

    Washington said it’s sticking with Georgia.

    and here we go…..this is a full scale breaking down of relations with Russia, this is going to be bad. Kudos for Bush on this one, first time i’ve said that but Russia needs to be put in its place now or it is jsut going to be one big mess.

  18. American Independent Group (gotta be a Soros organization) has filed a lawsuit against McCain today questioning his eligiblilty under Article 2. One bad turn deserves another.

  19. wbboei,
    I listened to hcsfjm, too but the guests dudn’t strike me as particularly transparent.

    what’s up with this?: Links, please!

    WOW CONFLOYLD: THEY HAVE GOT HIM/ LOLO SOTERO LISTED BARRY SOTERO SHOWING HIM INDONESIAN CITIZENSHIP. LIED TO ILLINOS SUPREME COURT WHEN HE APPLIED FOR LICENSE AS BARACK OBAMA AND INDICATED NO PRIOR NAME. HE IS A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD.
    CONFLOYD YOU ARE A GENIUS. KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY TIL ALL THIS GETS CONFIRMED/r

    The hcsfjn guest did say her repub contact had 5 tapes and they would start releasing 1 a week after the repub comvention but who the heck knoowe if it’s even true. 👿

  20. Isn’t that just crazy filing a lawsuit against McCain’s eligibility. That sounds just like the bots. THey always turn crap around, this is crazy and this war, during the conventions, it is just too much to swallow all at the same time!!

  21. Can’t we find anyone today born in the US (really Born in the US) to run for President. Oh, yes, HRC.

    Admin, I have tried to post a link to an article on Republican’s take on the Russian/Georgia reaction. Twice it seems to have disappeared into the Filter.

  22. I have a question, if his real name is actually Barry Soetoro, then he’s not legally married either nor praticing law legally.

  23. texan,
    one of the topics was the plan to present dean with an injuction before the nomination thereby derailing it . HCSFJM is working on it.

    nitr all/

  24. filing a lawsuit for McCains eligibility is just gonna to raise Obama’s even more. What a bunch of dicks.

  25. Wbboei, I did not listen all night, I went to another blog talk show and listened to a lady talking about how John Edwards and how he was such a rat. She had some good ideas on why the republicans did what they did to Bill C. and it had nothing to do with an immoral act in the whitehouse. It was all about getting a President out that was loved by the American people. One thing she didn’t say was, that now its about making the favorite Presidents wife doesnt get elected either.

  26. moon: There is no question of McCain’s eligibility. He was born on a military base/ship (whatever), which is considered U.S. soil. Therefore, he is a U.S. citizen. I thought this had already been settled. It is more distraction from Waffles.

  27. I thought hcsfjm found a lawyer, but he wanted 50,000. to do it. He did say however he could do it and it would definite stop the nomination. So all you rich folks out there need to cough up the $$$.

  28. Birdgal, yes, if I recall, McCain already has a court decision confirming his eligibility as a citizen and his ability to lawfully run for President.

    I keep thinking back to Bill Clinton’s comment about Obama: “anyone who’s qualified under the Constitution can be president…”

  29. Basil: the attorney said she spoke to an ex- clinton staffer who said he had personally seen the tapes and told her the republicans had them and would be releasing them. She asked why the Clinton campaign had not used them and he said because Hillary would never do that. They wanted nothing to do with them. That is an absolutely true statement. The one who had those tapes from the beginning was Rove and he used them to get donors to open their wallets. Hillary is a loyal democrat. In listening to current discussion and it looks like they are pressuring her to take that vp job and she is saying no.

  30. The VP search continues to be a complete fiasco for Obama, as the nutroots / incense-burning crowd are in total meltdown over the prospect of Bayh or Kaine as VP… as Kos of Daily Kos laments:

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    “I’m starting to suspect that the Evan Bayh boomlet is designed to make Tim Kaine look better by comparison, because really, Evan Bayh is about the only Democrat who makes Tim Kaine look palatable by comparison as Obama’s veep.

    I’m trying to derive some hope from the fact the Obama campaign plans on releasing the name of the veep via text message. Because if people get that message and it says “Bayh” or “Kaine”, too many of those phones will be thrown out the window of moving cars, or against the wall, or into a lake. And really, would Obama really do that to his supporters?”
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  31. I have a question, if his real name is actually Barry Soetoro, then he’s not legally married either nor praticing law legally.
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    BINGO

  32. You can see the Republican ads now: “How are we Americans supposed to learn who Obama is, if he doesn’t even know who he is?” etc.

  33. I suspect the text message thing was to drum up numbers and emails for fundraising, thats all. He wants to get to new possible donors. Classic fundraiser move, sign up more emails to drum up more cash.

  34. # wbboei Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    I have a question, if his real name is actually Barry Soetoro, then he’s not legally married either nor praticing law legally.
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    BINGO
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    Nor is he legitimately elected as a Senator as voters elected Barack Obama not Barry Soetoro and the primaries were illegal also.

  35. Correction: no court opinion so far on McCain’s eligibility, but constitutionals scholars say his is an open-and-shut case:

    “Some might define the term “natural-born citizen” as one who was born on United States soil. But the First Congress, on March 26, 1790, approved an act that declared, “The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States.” That would seem to include McCain, whose parents were both citizens and whose father was a Navy officer stationed at the U.S. naval base in Panama at the time of John’s birth in 1936.”

  36. moon: There is no question of McCain’s eligibility. He was born on a military base/ship (whatever), which is considered U.S. soil. Therefore, he is a U.S. citizen. I thought this had already been settled. It is more distraction from Waffles
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    Absolutely right. It is black letter law. They paid a law firm $100,000 to file this lawsuit to file this suit, which will dismissed by summary judgment? Madness. Stupid money.

  37. Nor is he legitimately elected as a Senator as voters elected Barack Obama not Barry Soetoro and the primaries were illegal also
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    BINGO AGAIN/

  38. Wbboei, This was one of the first sites after Hillary suspended her campaign, they are really trying to get Hillary on the ballot, but would settle for McCain if they have too!
    We or shall I say Hillary may still have a chance!
    I also want to know what you think about cage jails ready for the protestors. I thought they looked like a modern version of the Aushswits concentration camp fences!

  39. Hey guys i hope this is true about Obama lying, stating he had no other name. I am ready to donate to any lawyer that will take the case. Just let me know.

  40. wbboei: Lest we forget.I found this very important info in a book that I received from The XIX Corps relating the accomplishments of this great WWII gathering of great fighting unit titled “From Normandy To The Elbe”Writtenby a Capt.F.E.Camp Jr.
    The 2nd Arm.and the 83rd Inf.Divisions.were south of Halberstadt they found it,another one of the concentration Camps we’d never believedthe stories of in the staates for all the years we had heard about them.This one was called Langenstein,and it was a small one,only 1500 or so although ten times that nunber had died.When they first found it,the parade ground was piled high with the bodies of the dead.In the huts the dead lay in the same bunks with the living and they both rotted.This was another job for G-1.and for the Corps Surgeon too,for with all the length of sector the Corps had to find medical attention for these poor people.The 20th Field Hospital moved in and went to work,but stillthey died.TheDutch and the Russians and the Poles,who had to work twelve hours a day excavating rock by hand,on one bowl of water soup.Now they had fruit juices ,vitamines and eggs and milkbut for some it was too late,and all the green countryside stanked from the death that Nazism had put there.
    It was an experience that I shall never forget.The smell,the sight of so much death and my tears were overwhelming me,a 25 yr.old in a strange country and my view of man’s inhumanity to man.Over the years ,these emotions are forever present when I see or hear that our country is in danger of spawning another beast like Adolph Hitler.Life is short,Peace is fragile and War is Hell.

    BY ABM90 Looking back on History.Thank you all.

  41. Life is short, Peace is fragile and War is Hell.
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    Amen ABM 90. Thank you for the story.

  42. BARACK OBAMA IS AN EMBARRASSMENT

    At this point in time, the entire DNC, is an embarrassment. I don’t know, how they can look at themselves in the mirror. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THEM!

  43. wwboie,

    if Hillary knew about the tapes perhaps other Democrats did as well. Is that perhaps why 6-7 top Democrats refused to be considered as Obama’s VP?

    They, like Hillary, wouldn’t want to put themselves in a position where they would have to try to defend “the one” when the crap hit the fan with these tapes…

    thanks for sharing the info…it’s the best things I’ve heard in a long time…

  44. ABM90, that must have been a horrible sight to see, that is why we all must work hard to make sure that never happens again!

  45. Gloria Allred is a hot-shot women’s right lawyer, who takes on high profile cases. I believe, she works out of L.A., but don’t quote me on that.

  46. It is interesting isnt it.

    Donna Brazille hobnobbing with Rove, plotting the demise of Hillary and the rise of bambi. How nice it is to have friends in high places.

    Meanwhile Rove is holding whitey tapes and information on baracks legal status. If he can get Brazille to rig the nomination process to get get barcrack nominated then he can destroy barcrack.

    So nice to have friends in high places-brazille, judas, sucker.

  47. The freaking stupid ass DNC, how come they thought they could trust a snake like Rove??
    I fully believe the DNC elitest including (Gore) have wanted the Clintons out and they really thought Rove would help.
    Please Hillary don’t run with him, cuz that what the puks want, you go down with him, I think unless we can get him out before the convention!

  48. Pelosi’s bizarre, mafia-style leadership continues:

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    Pelosi Blasts Lieberman, Clinton Supporters

    Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau
    Wednesday, August 13, 2008

    (08-13) 14:22 PDT Washington – —

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blasted Sen. Joe Lieberman today for making what she called “totally irresponsible” remarks about Democrat Barack Obama, which she warned could prompt Senate Democrats to strip him of his committee chairmanship.

    In a wide-ranging interview with Bay Area radio talk show host Ronn Owens, Pelosi also chastised some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters for being “less than gracious” toward Obama, although she praised the New York senator for rallying behind the party’s nominee.

    Pelosi’s remarks are certain to anger Clinton backers, especially those seeking to have Clinton’s name placed into nomination at the party’s convention in Denver later this month. But the House speaker’s comments about Lieberman may please Democratic activists, who’ve grown frustrated at the Connecticut senator’s sharp jabs at Obama.

    Campaigning for Republican John McCain in York, Pa., Tuesday, Lieberman appeared to question Obama’s patriotism when he called the election a choice “between one candidate, John McCain, who has always put his country first, worked across party lines to get things done, and one candidate that has not.”

    Pelosi was asked by a caller on Owens’ show what could be done about the attacks from Lieberman, the Democrats’ vice presidential nominee in 2000 who is now an independent but still caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate.

    “You’re right,” Pelosi said. “Joe Lieberman has said things that are totally irresponsible when it comes to Barack Obama. Here we have a leader for the future, really a great leader for the future and one that comes along only every now and then, and they know it so they have to undermine him. And one of their best weapons, of course, is someone who is considered by some to be a Democrat.”

    Pelosi bluntly explained that Senate Democrats are leery of challenging Lieberman because his vote is crucial to maintaining the Democrats’ 51-49 majority in the Senate. But she warned that Lieberman’s top spot on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee could be in jeopardy next year if the Democrats gain seats in the Senate in November.

    “The Democrats in the Senate are in a tough spot. They have 51 votes. Joe Lieberman organizes with them,” she said. “In 85 days or something, they will have five more Democrats they won’t need him to make the majority. And it will be interesting to see what the leadership in the Senate, the Democratic leadership in the Senate, does at that point in terms of Joe Lieberman’s chairmanship of his committee.”

    Pelosi, who was on the show promoting her new book, “Know Your Power,” was also pressed on why former President Bill Clinton declined in a recent ABC News interview to say whether he thought Obama was ready to be president.

    “I can’t answer for Bill Clinton,” Pelosi said, adding, “It’s hard when you’re in a primary election. Losing is very, very difficult.”

    Pressed about whether Hillary Clinton could have been more gracious to Obama, the San Francisco Democrat responded, “I think Hillary Clinton has been very gracious. I think some of her supporters have been less than gracious.”

  49. wbboei, who is gloria alread, are you talking about gloria alred??
    ——————————————-
    confloyd: yes. good lawyer. has courage.

  50. Wbboei, Gloria Alred defended Amber Fry in the Lacy Peterson case, aka Scott Peterson murder trial, she one good lawyer!! Is she the one that is going to get the injunction for Momma E??? Gloria loves headlines and so do we!!!!

  51. if Hillary knew about the tapes perhaps other Democrats did as well. Is that perhaps why 6-7 top Democrats refused to be considered as Obama’s VP?
    ——————————————–
    As barister Charles Lawton said in Witness for the Prosecution: “It’s not unlikely”.

  52. birdgal Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    the Tuesday night list is long: Keynote Speaker: Not Hillary, Mark Warner (yes, Who?? is the appropriate response. )
    Bob Casey —
    Deval Patrick —

    the Tuesday lineup will also include Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius,
    Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano,
    Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio
    Gov. Ed Rendell of PA,
    Sen. Bob Casey, Jr. PA
    Gov. Deval Patrick of MA,
    Gov. Brian Schweitzer of Montana
    Federico Peña, former Mayor of Denver and Sec. of both Energy and Transportation.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Let me guess. This will be like the Lollapalooza tour, with the Main Stage (where Obama supporters will speak), and the little alternate stage where Hillary will be given 5 minutes.

    The worse they treat Hillary, and the more overt the punishment of Hillary delegates are, the more lethal the cocktail known as the 2008 Democratic National Convention will be.

    NoQuarter had that write-up today about Colorado delegate Sacha Millstone getting called out by Colorada Dem. Party head William Compton. She emailed to another delegate “she was not sure she could vote for Obama”, and this email was rat-forwarded to the Fourth Reich. Compton then sent Millstone a letter that they needed to “talk”. Millstone got an attorney, sensing that this was NOT about “talk”, but a blatant attempt to intimidate her from supporting Clinton, and a warning to other delegates about the price they’ll have to pay if they don’t fall in line like nice little Nazis.

    Party Unity???? My Ass.
    Nobama.

  53. Holy sh*t — the new book exposing Obama has gone it straight at number one on the New York Times bestseller list:

    ———
    1 THE OBAMA NATION, by Jerome R. Corsi. (Threshold, $28.) The Democratic candidate as an extreme leftist, from the co-author of “Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry.” (†)

    2 WHEN YOU ARE ENGULFED IN FLAMES, by David Sedaris. (Little, Brown, $25.99.) The humorist’s latest essays. First Chapter

    3 STORI TELLING, by Tori Spelling with Hilary Liftin. (Simon Spotlight Entertainment, $24.95.) The actress’s memoir. (†) 4 10
    4 ARE YOU THERE, VODKA? IT’S ME, CHELSEA, by Chelsea Handler. (Simon Spotlight Entertainment, $24.95.) Humorous personal essays from the stand-up comedian. 5 15
    5 FLEECED, by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann. (Harper, $26.95.) Americans are fleeced by government, business, labor unions and lobbyists. (†) 6 6
    6 THE DARK SIDE, by Jane Mayer. (Doubleday, $27.50.) How the Bush administration embraced the practice of torture. 2 3
    7* LIFE WITH MY SISTER MADONNA, by Christopher Ciccone with Wendy Leigh. (Simon Spotlight Entertainment, $26.) What she’s really like. 3 3
    8 HAVANA NOCTURNE, by T. J. English. (Morrow, $27.95.) Tales from the pre-Castro days when American gangsters controlled Cuba’s casinos and hotels. 7 2
    9 THE POST-AMERICAN WORLD, by Fareed Zakaria. (Norton, $25.95.) The rise of China and India and the global distribution of power. First Chapter 10 14
    10* THE MONSTER OF FLORENCE, by Douglas Preston with Mario Spezi. (Grand Central, $25.99.) An American writer in Florence and an Italian journalist work to discover the identity of a local serial killer. 8 8
    11 WHAT HAPPENED, by Scott McClellan. (PublicAffairs, $27.95.) A former White House press secretary regrets that “I allowed myself to be deceived” by top officials.

    12 MY STROKE OF INSIGHT, by Jill Bolte Taylor. (Viking, $24.95.) A brain scientist shares what she learned from her 1996 stroke.

    13 AUDITION, by Barbara Walters. (Knopf, $29.95.) A personal and professional memoir.

    14 WHAT I TALK ABOUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT RUNNING, by Haruki Murakami. (Knopf, $21..) Part training guide, part memoir, from the Japanese novelist.

    15 WAITER RANT, by the Waiter. (Ecco, $24.95.) An anonymous New York waiter with a popular blog describes customers’ outrageous behavior.

  54. Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Pelosi’s bizarre, mafia-style leadership continues:
    Pelosi Blasts Lieberman, Clinton Supporters

    In a wide-ranging interview with Bay Area radio talk show host Ronn Owens, Pelosi also chastised some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters for being “less than gracious” toward Obama, although she praised the New York senator for rallying behind the party’s nominee.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Is this the same N. Pelosi with the 14% (or whatever), sub-Bush approval ratings???

    Hmmmmm…must be.

  55. Confloyd: was it my bad spelling or a Freudian slip? Lord only knows.

    I think Gloria gave them a referral. Watson Hoff law firm is handling. David Cross and Gregory Walston. Need 25k down and 25 within a few weeks. They are raising the money.

  56. May I say, I absolutely, with no hesitation loathe Nasty Pooplosi. Her judgement is very flawed, if she thinks Waffles is a great leader. So what, if Lieberman has not been enthralled with Waffles? People have a right, to express their feelings, at least they did, before this election. Lieberman shows better insight and judgement than the leaders of the democratic? party. I wonder, how many SD’s she bought off? If the dems keep this up, they may not gain, as many seats as they are presuming they will.

  57. Hey all. That Rolling Stone Article was really depressing. That is what I have thought about all day. There IS NO MORE “tWO pARTY” SYSTEM. jUST ONE, AND THEY ARE ALL WORKING FOOR EACHOTHER. iT DOESNT MATTER WHO WINS (sorry, caps lock)

    Also, I don’t know if anyone else has though this, but it seems a lot of these groups in the real PUMA Coalition have all these things happen that they need money for. Film Ewuipment stolen ( Why does an established Cinematographer NOT have insurance on his equipment?) $50K for a LAWYER to prove Obama is a liar?! WTF??? I am just saying, there seems to be a lot of folks with their hands out, especially lately, playing on the emotions of the real supporters of HRC. Why wouldn’t a JUDGE demand, or a Justice Official or even, gasp! A politician demand to see the real Obama stuff, or file the injunction pro bono? It’s about the Constitution for God’s sake. SOMETIMES I wonder if some of these groups are not republican operatives stirring the pot to bring down Barry AFTER the nomination because thhey know they CANNOT win against Hillary. And wasn’t it ROVES PLAN to have a life-long control of the Gvernment by Republicans? What better way than to engineer, divide and conquor.

    I would REALLY be careful with whom you deal with. I know many of the REAL ones. There are some that make my skin crawl. And one is pretty well known. No names alluded to. I don’t want to end up like the guy in Arkansas.

  58. Nasty Pooplosi doesn’t realize that people in this country have a right to support the candidate of his/her choosing. If the DNC and Ms. Nasty had not tried to bamboozle the electorate, none of this disruption would be occurring. We do not like Waffles. We do not support him. Ms. Pooplosi needs to get over herself. I hope, her book stays at 1287. She should be in Congress, trying to work on the energy crisis, instead of promoting her book.

  59. Birdgal: here is an old post from taylor marsh which sheds light on the duplicity of Pelosi.
    ——————————————–

    chuck todd, in his piece today about hillary’s campaign, points to nancy pelosi as one of the major obstacles. he says pelosi blocked sd’s from endorsements and major fundraisers were discouraged. the events at the rbc speak for themselves.

    if we don’t vote for mccain, taylor, how do we, as hillary supporters, show our outrage at the dnc and pelosi in particular?

  60. TO VEEP, OR NOT TO VEEP…THAT IS THE QUESTION

    # wbboei Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    … it looks like they are pressuring her to take that vp job and she is saying no.
    &&&&&

    It would not be too surprising if Obama’s handlers are starting to realize that HRC might just be his only ticket. But they might have an extremely difficult time convincing His Arrogance.

    And even if he acceeded, Michelle would have to sign off…and she wouldn’t.

    “You gonna let that blonde
    bitch go in there and steal
    your spotlight??? And you
    know she’s got more
    testosterone than you…”

    %%%
    Now, for Hillary. No matter how much she’s pressured (assuming that Obama’s handlers force him down that route), it’s extremely ease to see how / why she would not accept it.

    In those reality shows like Project Runaway (heh heh), there’s always the bitchy difficult asshole. Do you want to work with the asshole? Do you want to be the one thrown to the sharks when they say, “Which one of you must go?”.

    (My wife watches this show, so this is how I know that much. Otherwise, I’d be watching the Olympics).

    Hillary is an extremely smart person. There’s no future if Obama wins, she’d be quarantined into irrelevance for 8 years. But more likely, Obama goes down like a plane full of sewage, and she’d prefer to watch that one on TV.

  61. wbboei: Pelosi was a block, the entire time. Her “neutrality” was so transparent, that it wasn’t funny. SD’s were probably threatened with being primaried against in their next elections. That may have prevented some of them, from sticking with Hillary. Pelosi is very, very corrupt, and arrogant to boot.

    Wbboei: my vote against the democratic? party is one way, I can show my outrage. Pelosi has a lock on SF, so that would be difficult to change, but Sheehan is taking a stab at it.

  62. Norma, some of the groups are not bonafide? which one makes your skin crawl? do you think the PACs are legit?

  63. When the new anti Barack Obama book is number 1 on the NYT book and the Pelosi tome is number 1287 on that list, that isnt exactly a ringing note of endorsement for the dnc and its chosen one, now is it? As a matter of fact, it should cause pollsters to think twice about their work. Where people put their money tells you more about where their heads are than a Rassmussen poll.

  64. birdgal Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Ms. Pooplosi needs to get over herself. I hope, her book stays at 1287.
    &&&&&&

    I wonder how many of those books were bought by her under psuedonyms: “Mandy Polony”, “N. Paluzzi”, etc.?

    She could use them to build a guest house, and then she could make the Bestseller’s List.

    I’ll take a guess at the title of Chapter 3: Losing Your Soul and Being Kind of Okay With It.

  65. birdgirl

    “I wonder, how many SD’s she bought off? ”

    over a No Quarter they have the answer.
    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/13/bought-and-paid-for-by-nancy-pelosi/#more-4155

    noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/pelosipacs.htm

  66. birdgal Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    wbboei: Pelosi was a block, the entire time. Her “neutrality” was so transparent, that it wasn’t funny.
    &&&&&

    Also, ahem, “neutral”: Clyburn, Brazile, and ________ (place another 200 names here).

    Hey, did they actually think that “no one really knew they were secretly supporting Obama”?????

    Rot in hell, bastards. (Oooh, is this “hate mail”. Shame on me. NOT!!!!).

  67. Also, ahem, “neutral”: Clyburn, Brazile, and ________ (place another 200 names here).

    Hey, did they actually think that “no one really knew they were secretly supporting Obama”?????

    Rot in hell, bastards. (Oooh, is this “hate mail”. Shame on me. NOT!!!!).

    There is a whole list of names. Their arrogance, has no boundaries or limits. The entire MSM can be included in that group.

    How can the truth be hate mail?

  68. # Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Birdgal, yes, if I recall, McCain already has a court decision confirming his eligibility as a citizen and his ability to lawfully run for President.

    I keep thinking back to Bill Clinton’s comment about Obama: “anyone who’s qualified under the Constitution can be president…”
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I recall back in like March that Congress passed some kind of resolution (and supported by Obama) clarifying that McCain’s situation did NOT make him ineligible, that he was legit to be elected POTUS.

    I thought I recalled that it seemed to be a ruse by Obama. Give McCain a pass on any “difficulty” with his eligibility, and that McCain would therefore have to reciprocate by forgiving any “difficulties” Obama may have.

    But, they are two drastically different situations. McCain is in the clear with his ONE issue. Obambi still a) hasn’t provided a real birth certificate b) hasn’t addressed questions about multiple citizenships, c) yadda yadda, this guy is fertile ground for controversy.

    The One???
    …or The Bone??

  69. I don’t even know, why McCain’s eligibility was even called into question. I have known this fact since I was in Junior High.

  70. Hey Birdgal. I’ve been curious. What kind of birds do you have?

    We have several feeders out here in mid-New Jersey, in “horse country”. And today, traffic had to stop to let about 10 wild turkeys cross the road.

    My cats, too, are bird “afficianados”. But alas, they have a disturbing way of showing their enthusiasm.

  71. If you need a good laugh, look at Maureen Dowd’s trashing of Hillary today. Maureen Dowd is turning out to be an endless fountain of misogyny and hate. But she’s so over the top, at placing all the blame of Everything Wrong with the Universe upon Hillary and Bill. And Obama must suffer the slings and arrows of their hate.

    And the Clintonistas are hate-filled rabid lying dogs. It must be that we are racists. It COULDN’T POSSIBLY BE THAT OBAMA IS A HALF-TERM NEWBIE SENATOR WITH EXTREMELY LITTLE TO SHOW.

    He’s like these criminals whose house does not have any fingerprints of THEMSELVES, in their OWN HOUSE. That’s why he voted Present in Illinois State Legistlature, and why he never takes a firm stand on anything “controvesial”.

    Dig this, Stick Man. Nothing ventured, NOTHING GAINED.

    We are not through with you. You are going to rue the day you decided to “move up your plans to run for president”. You are going to be so ashamed, that you’ll have to take a permanent Hawaiian vacation in the most remote of regions. I’m not too worried for you… you have money and well connected friends.

    Most of them will forgive you for so horribly botching a) the Dem. nomination (if you make it out of Denver), or b) the General election.

  72. So, on the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage, Women’s Equality Day, Mark Warner, and anti-choice Casey are speaking. What is wrong with this picture? Also, Bill Clinton has a non-primetime speaking time.

    The DNC is not even trying to hide their disdain for anything Clinton or their supporters. That’s right-they don’t need us, which is coming out loud and clear.

  73. From EW:

    “2.5 INDIANA – Instructions to HRC delegates – don’t sign. Don’t damage Bayh’s VP chances
    Raymond A.J. Penko, an at-large delegate from CA who has been reaching out to HRC Indiana delegates writes: I’ve been involved in campaigns before, as many of us have…
    I am concerned and frustrated with the situation with recruiting delegates to support Hillary’s petition… because the delegates have been told to not support a petition so Evan Bayh’s selection as VP is not jeopardized. Rendell and the leadership of Indiana have strongarmed the people of Indiana so they don’t sign this petition. The local media needs to ask the democratic leadership in Penn and Indiana why they are telling their Hillary delegates not to sign such a petition? It makes the Democratic establishment in both states look foolish and heavy-handed. Once the leadership in both states saw they were going to look foolish they might give in and tell their delegates to sign the petition.

    I have the names of people in Indiana who told me they were told at a meeting last Sunday by tthe Chairman of the Dem party of the State and the former Clinton campaign manager not to sign the petition so they don’t jeopardize Bayh’s chances of being VP. Essentially, Rendell and the Dem leadership in these states look like they are blocking Senator Clinton’s chances to bring about party unity.”

  74. Hey Birdgal. I’ve been curious. What kind of birds do you have?

    I don’t have any birds, but I have a couple of feeders and enjoy bird watching (as my cats do 🙂 ).

  75. The EW, really spells out Pelosi’s contributions to congresspersons. Not surprising, the majority of funds went to those people supporting BO. ‘Of the 435 members in the house, Pelosi gave money to 8.5% of them. Of the members who received money from Pelosi, 71% were men; only 29% were women. Only eleven percent of the female members of congress received support from Pelosi’s PAC. It’s disappointing that a female speaker did not symbolically make some contribution to all Democratic women in the house. ” With support like this, no wonder, women need help from Emily’s list, etc.

    “Pelosi gave money to the campaigns of thirty-eight members of congress, twenty-eight of these endorsed Obama; ten endorsed Clinton. Pelosi contributed to the campaigns of Obama endorsers almost three to one. Pelosi not only gave to a greater number of Obama supporters, she collectively gave them more money. Pelosi gave 250,000 to the campaigns of superdelegates that endorsed Obama and only 80,000 to the campaigns of superdelegates that endorsed Clinton. Money talks and Pelosi and her PAC spoke volumes….in shorthand. She may not have publicly endorsed a candidate, but the members of the House of Representatives knew she supported Obama.”

  76. My cousin’s husband is in Engalnd for the air force and he just volunteered to do something there. I’m not sure what. He’s a pilot.

  77. here you go, gonzotx:

    —–
    August 14, 2008
    Bush, Sending Aid, Demands That Moscow Withdraw
    By STEVEN LEE MYERS
    NYTimes.com

    This article was reported by Steven Lee Myers, Sabrina Tavernise and Ellen Barry and written by Mr. Myers.

    WASHINGTON — President Bush sent American troops to Georgia on Wednesday to oversee a “vigorous and ongoing” humanitarian mission, in a direct challenge to Russia’s display of military dominance over the region. His action came after Russian soldiers moved into two strategic Georgian cities in what he and Georgian officials called a violation of the cease-fire Russia agreed to earlier in the day.

    Mr. Bush demanded that Russia abide by the cease-fire and withdraw its forces or risk its place in “the diplomatic, political, economic and security structures of the 21st century.” It was his strongest warning yet of potential retaliation against Russia over the conflict.

    The decision to send the American military, even on a humanitarian mission, deepened the United States’ commitment to Georgia and America’s allies in the former Soviet sphere, just as Russia has been determined to reassert its control in the area.

    On a day the White House evoked emotional memories of the cold war, a senior Pentagon official said the relief effort was intended “to show to Russia that we can come to the aid of a European ally, and that we can do it at will, whenever and wherever we want.” At a minimum, American forces in Georgia will test Russia’s pledge to allow relief supplies into the country; they could also deter further Russian attacks, though at the risk of a potential military confrontation.

    “We expect Russia to ensure that all lines of communication and transport, including seaports, airports, roads and airspace, remain open for the delivery of humanitarian assistance and for civilian transit,” Mr. Bush said. “We expect Russia to meet its commitment to cease all military activities in Georgia, and we expect all Russian forces that entered Georgia in recent days to withdraw from that country.”

    In Georgia, President Mikheil Saakashvili, who has sharply criticized what he called a failure of the West to support his country, declared the relief operation a “turning point” in the conflict, which began on Thursday when Georgian forces tried to establish control in the breakaway region of South Ossetia, only to be routed by the Russians.

    “We were unhappy with the initial actions of the American officials, because they were perceived by the Russians as green lines, basically, but this one was very strong,” he said in a telephone interview after Mr. Bush’s statement in Washington.

    Mr. Saakashvili interpreted the aid operation as a decision to defend Georgia’s ports and airports, though Bush administration and Pentagon officials quickly made it clear that would not be the case. A senior administration official said, “We won’t be protecting the airport or seaport, but we’ll certainly protect our assets if we need to.”

    Mr. Bush spoke in the Rose Garden of the White House, flanked by his secretaries of state and defense, Condoleezza Rice and Robert M. Gates. He said that Ms. Rice would fly to France to support its mediation efforts and then to Georgia “to continue our efforts to rally the free world in the defense of a free Georgia.”

    State Department officials said there were no plans for Ms. Rice to go to Moscow.

    Mr. Bush’s remarks, like the military operation he ordered, reflected a growing apprehension within the White House over Russia’s offensive, as well as mounting frustration that Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, whom Mr. Bush often calls a friend, was unmoved by appeals for moderation. Underscoring the urgency, Mr. Bush, who had remained at the Olympics in Beijing while the conflict erupted, postponed a planned trip to his ranch in Crawford, Tex., which was to have begun on Thursday.

    The first relief aircraft, a C-17 transporter carrying medical supplies and materials for shelter for thousands displaced by the fighting, arrived in Tbilisi, Georgia’s capital, on Wednesday; a second was due Thursday.

  78. Total Number of Reporters Assigned To Edwards Investigation:

    National Enqirer: seven

    Big Media: zero

    Show who tells the truth to the American People and who is in the business of censorship

    Great Video ADMIN/

  79. Question: if a public official abandons principles at the behest of a corrupt dnc then why should anyone believe he will stand up for constituents when the chips are down? This is a character test.

  80. Does this qualify Jesse Jackson for “under the bus” status?

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/jesse-jacksons-convention-streak-in-doubt-2008-08-13.html

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson has spoken at every Democratic convention since 1984, but that streak may come to an end this year.

    Jackson, a controversial civil rights activist who ran for president in 1984 and 1988, last month had to apologize for saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) “is talking down to black people.” With a microphone recording what Jackson thought was a private conversation prior to an appearance on Fox News, he went on to make other critical comments about Obama. Jackson used a racially charged remark and also said he would like to remove a part of the male anatomy from Obama.

    The Illinois senator has accepted Jackson’s apology.

    But Jackson’s widely publicized comments have likely eliminated him as a possible speaker at the Democratic convention in Denver, which starts Aug. 25.

    ————————
    The decisions on Jackson and Sharpton are politically loaded for Obama, the first African-American to win his party’s presidential primary.

    Jackson has long been a leading voice on civil rights and has many ties to Obama’s home state of Illinois. Jackson’s Rainbow Push Coalition is headquartered in Chicago and Jackson’s son, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D), represents the 2nd district of Illinois.

  81. Charlie Rangel Snubbed:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12530.html

    The Obama campaign is denying House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel a speaking role at this month’s Democratic National Convention – a move those close to the powerhouse Harlem congressman view as a spiteful snub.

    Rangel surrogates approached Obama staffers this week about the possibility of securing him a slot at the podium, making the case that it would showcase reconciliation between the nominee and Clinton’s African-American supporters.

    But they were told that the 78-year-old congressman’s support for Clinton earned him a place at the end of the line behind Barack Obama’s loyalists – even if Rangel played a crucial part in prodding Clinton to abandon her presidential bid in June.

    “It’s crazy… This man [Rangel] controls tax policy in the United States. He’s a lot bigger than just a regular member of Congress, he deserves more respect than this,” said a Rangel confidant. “Basically they have told us they can’t help us that there are too many Obama supporters ahead of Charlie on the line.”

    Responding to questions posed to the Obama press office, convention spokesperson Natalie Wyeth, said: “We have a wealth of talent within our party and very limited speaking roles.”

    Rangel “is a team player and will support” Obama, the confidant said, but added “I can’t imagine that Charlie is happy about this.”

    Another Rangel insider said the chairman – whose support is deemed essential if Obama wants to pass his tax reform agenda — is more aggravated than angry. But the famously blunt Korean War veteran is “way less than jazzed” about attending the convention and plans to spend only a day or two in Denver, the person added.

  82. The real reason Obama does not want Rangel and Jackson speaking, he wants to the top AA in the building, he doesnt want anymore AA’s to be seen on stage but him. He does not want to be seen as a black candidate.

    The AA community is and was expecting this to be a high profile convention full of prominent AA’s taking to the stage but guess what AA voters, he doesnt want you near him, he doesnt want to be seen with you, he sees you as an electoral liability to him with the white voters. You are going to be sadly disappointed. He wants your vote when he needs it but other than that, he doesnt want to be seen with you.

    Actually is there one more AA featured in the convention besides, him, his horrible wife and her brother? Nope thought not.

  83. Oh Wbboei!

    I went to bed right after my last post so i didn’t see your remark asking if I was satisfied with the good news.
    And of course, you posted the hcsfjm info before me. I didn’t see it.

    Of course i would be THRILLED if what ME and Ed said is true. Guess I’m just not convinced it is but you seem to think it’s for real and your track record on predictions has been excellent.
    😀

  84. Good i hope he snubbs Rangel and all the rest of the AA serves them right.
    I could care less if any of them spoke, they would all be lying about O
    I want be watching the circus

  85. Obama is choreographing a utopia convention, filled with lies, deceit, and subliminal good-feel images.

    Hmm…Hitler did that too.

  86. MJ

    Your cousin, is he stationed at Lakenheath? or Ramstead i hope i spelled it right
    I go there every year.

  87. For thosde who haven’t seen this, it’s Waffles school records under the name soetero listing his citizenship as indonesian.

    purplechiten.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/baracks-barry-soetoro-school-records-found/

  88. Mornining wbboei. Thanks for your interest in my passing thoughts of the great war.I did a little research on the division and occupation of Germany after the peace.I found the Potsdam Agreement to be the first and and more basic than the Yalta Agreement that followed it.You were correct in your query. I will very briefly touch on this very disappointing decision that would prevent our Taking Berlin after a long and hard fought drive inthe coldest winter in German weather records.We were less than one hundred miles of our goal and that of Gen,George Patton and on a rool in the fast lanes of the Autobahn. This next quote was from XIX Tomahawk Corps records:::: “As preparations were being made to push on to Berlin,the order came down to hold.We were to wait for the Russians.After two days oof cleaning up in Magdeburg,by the 2nd Armored and the 30th, the war was almost over for the XIX Corps.In this last rush,we had taken 172,000 prisoners,advanced 220 miles across the Wesrand the ELBE and seized the cities of Hamm,Halberstadt,Hildescheim,Braunschweig,Magdeburg and Soest.The Russians were rumored clos day after day,but they did not appear.Finally on the 30th of April,after atwo-day running fight from Zerpst,the 125th Cavalry Squadron of the Corps 113th cavalry group,made contact with the men of theXXVII Guard Corps under Gen.Cherakmanov near Wittenberg,on the Elbe,the first Ninth Army junction with the Russians.Lastly.the most overwhelming tide of German Troops,Civilians and political refugees came like an enormous Tidal Wave of Humans in panic that the vengance seeking Russians would slaughter them all. There wer an estimated 250,000 of them an they ran through the streets holding out there weapons to us and begging for a safe haven. Most of them in later interrogations ,swore thst they never knew that all these atrocities existed in spite of the cages on their farms to house the poor political prisoners allocated to them to do the brutal hand work of farming.The smell of death hung over many villages and these people chose to hold their noses and because their mad leader kept up the constant drumming of the Nazi Slogan “Deutschland Uber Alles”

    Thanks my friend wbboei. Sometimes reminiscing is good for a mind full of troubling experiences.

    By ABM90 I am proud of all of my Hillary supporters.

  89. norma: rolling stone is run by the bots. whatever they say is pure propaganda. they are the least credible source i can think of. that covers alot of ground.

  90. ABM 90: thanks again my friend. So much of the world we live in is not black and white but grey in terns of moral values. The ordeal that you and your generation lived though was different. The moral imperative was clear. Your generation paid a high price but in the end good prevailed. And that I suspect is why brokaw famously called your the greatest generation.

    My grandfather was in World War I. He was a private in the American Expeditionary under Pershing. He had a disability from standing in freezing water France in World War I. He also had scar on his chest which was from a German bayonette in one of those charges across no mans land. It wasnt until later that we learned it was from a medical operation–he loved to kid his grandchildren that way. And my grandmother would never let him get away with it.

    As previously indicated, my dad was in the Pacific in World War II. He was assistant air operations officer on the Enterprise, which was Halseys flag ship early in the War. It was involved in all the major battle of that War except for the Battle of the Coral Sea. It was the most decorated ship of the War. He was injured on a small island named Roynamour, the wound would not heal in the tropical heat so they shipped him to a hospital stateside and he was there on VJ Day. The Commanding Officer of Treasure Island gave the sailors liberty, and they tore the town apart. My dad and a couple other officers hid out in a bar.

    I guess the adjustment to civilian life was harder for some than others. He was fine with it but others who saw the worst of combat were scarred by it. I mentioned before a guy who was in the Battle of the Bulge who went nuts recovered and they when he went back home to Monana and crashed an airplane went nuts again and stayed that way for the rest of his life. Dulce et decorum est pro patrie mori. They used to call it shell shock now its post traumatic shock syndrome-aint good.

    Hollywood did a fine movie on the adjustment to civilian life called “The Best Years of Our Lives”. I am sure you saw it.

    and my dad was in the Pacific Theater in World War II.

  91. ABM 90: I went back and read your post again a third time as well as the one yesterday. My God the death, the distruction and the dislocation of millions of people is scarcely imaginable but though stories like yours, the history books and the newsreels there is no doubt that it happened. The struggle we fact today is to ensure it never happens again. They called World War I the War to end all wars. They lied. They passed the Kellog Briand Pact in the late 20s outlawing war only to discover it was unenforceble. And the weapons which exist in arsenals today have 100 times the killing power. If you ask senior naval officers today they will tell you China is the new enemy on the military front and are challenging our control over the Asian sphere militarily as well as economically. If they control our economy however they will not have to fire a shot. Hillary knows that, Bambi does not, and the globalists that support him despise nationalism because it interferes with the efficient operation of a global market. As you say we need Hillary.

  92. Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic is saying that there will be a roll call vote and Hillary’s name will be placed in nomination.

    He is also saying that she did not want this to happen earlier in the summer but now things it will help unify the party. He also indicated at some point during the convention she will release her delegates to Obama.

    He also says that she did not want the keynote speaker spot.

    I don’t know how much of this is fact—it’s just one source but I thought I’d pass it along.

    marcambinder.theatlantic.com/

  93. If there was ever a time we needed a free press that was willing to tell us the truth about what is occurring here that time is now. They are no fucking good.

  94. All good dictatorships need a propoganda machine, they are just auditioning for the role.

    MSNBC aka Must Systematically Neutralise Both Clintons

    i think has the lead in disgraceful displays of leghumping.

  95. If we need a “free press”, thank God for the National Enquirer.

    Like they said in Men in Black about cheesy tabloids, “This is where we do our research”.

  96. Pelosi has been the worst speaker of the house in it’s entire history. She is also jealous and envious of Hillary’s power and has nerve to insult us.

  97. AmericanGal Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic is saying that there will be a roll call vote and Hillary’s name will be placed in nomination.
    He also indicated at some point during the convention she will release her delegates to Obama.
    &&&&

    When the delegates are “released”, will they run away from Obama? Or will they set upon him like a pack of rabid dogs??

  98. Pelosi aka The Wicked Witch of the West Coast.

    Dreadful woman, on total power trip who is presiding over the most despised and worst rated congress ever. They may get a shock come November.

  99. moon: I hope, that the dems get a shock in Nov. Pelosi is one wicked, evil, and envious person.

    The democratic? party is dead. The new one, does not include people who dissent.

  100. Pelosi, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Jesse Jackson jr., Clyburn, Brazile, Harry Reid?, DNC and others will have a huge wake-up call come November.

    Peloisi has been a terrible speaker of the house….just terrible. what is interesting is that Cindy Sheehan called her out first and she got the treatment.

    What is the point of EMILY List if the women that get in are not supporting other women growth in politics. It’s very telling that Nancy Pelosi supported a very conservative (male) Texan for Obama’s vp choice.

    I can’t believe Nancy would go on radio and bash Lieberman, Clinton and their supporters and then brag that the Democrats won’t need Lieberman any more after 2009. What an idiot, now Lieberman looks heroic going to a war zone and what is Nancy doing…having a book tour and being Obama’s surrogate.

  101. rgb44hrc Says: thank god for the national enquirer. August 14th, 2008 at 11:22 am
    ———————————————
    Agreed. My statement was overbroad. But if you take the mainstream media, it is not enough to say that charlie wragnel will not be a featured speaker which created the impression right or wrong that it is because he did not support Obama. And puleeeeeeeeeeeze dont give us your fucking opinion. Get us the goddam facts. What he say what did he do that caused this reaction. Dont be an order taker and give us the nazi propaganda of obama. Do your fucking job for a change so we can do ours as voters,

  102. Dissing Rangel and Jackson, all I can say is “Wow.” Remember that SNL skit, where BO sent Sharpton and Jackson on a wild goose chase? I think to Africa, but I could be wrong.

  103. and to think we threw the repug congress out for being useless and corrupt and we got something worse in return.

  104. wobbei :thanks againfor your kind and very important posts.You are restoring my hopes for better world than the one I see on the political horizon with God forbid a scenario wit Barry Soetoro at the helm. Last few days you and I have given lots of names and places that he can use for his inaginary military background family.He can fill up his barn each day the BS that eminates from those lying liver lips,but it will soon bury him in his own place in history.THE LOSER PILE.

    BY ABM90 HIllary: IT HAS TO BE YOU.GO GIRL

  105. O shows such fear and insecurity. He is unable to treat H with the respect that she deserves, because he knows he did not really win.

    Every time I hear them say that, it is totally wrong. There has been no vote of the SDs and she won the popular vote. So how did he win.

    In addition, he is failing at every turn. His polling lead is slim to none, and the Reps smell victory, and have place the property leaders in place, and even tested the waters.

    They are just waiting for the Dems to make the fatal error.

    Kerry was leading by a larger % than this. Have the Dems learned nothing?

    I have to find a smarter party that supports women.

  106. No matter what you think about Jesse Jackson at least he has paid his dues and walked the walk in civil rights and human rights. Jesse Jackson brand is still very much respected in the African Community, although bruised.

    What has Obama done?

    Obama is very insecure and has a nasty side that is very unbecoming. Obama is all talk and no accomplishments and people expect that Obama will have the skill set to handle the job of POTUS or is it more like King Obama to his subjects.

    Obama and the dems is hoping for a race war because that is all they talk about…but what they don’t understand is that Country above PARTY and that we are all Americans, warts and all, we’re not perfect but we are all way striving to be better one inch at a time.

    It’s very disingenuous of Team Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, John Kerry and other to play are weakness against ourself but that is what those angling for power always do. By wrapping their quest for power as a noble endeavor electing the first Black man for president they choose one who ill be subservient to them and not one who would be an equal.

    Even in the Black community Obama is looked as someone with a weak resume and might be a puppet but he looks good and will be inside the halls of power not outside.

  107. admin Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 5:41 am

    Does this qualify Jesse Jackson for “under the bus” status?
    &&&&&

    Good pernt, admin.

    Hey, 5:41am!!? Yikes. Do you sleep only two hours a day? Or as conspiracy theorists might conjecture, Is there more than one of you???

  108. Thanks to the 44-ers who wrote to NOW about the DNC putting Hillary’s name in nomination.

    I’m not sure what to make of the Ambinder story about how Hillary and Obama have come to an agreement about the nomination. I guess I’m waiting to hear it from Hillary herself. Or it may be a ploy to crush the delegates’ petition. I put this in the “wait and see” category.

    About the Barry Soetoro school registration… Great, if it’s the real deal. But I’ve heard too many birth certificate and whitey tape stories that never came to anything. At least this time, instead of wild stories there’s an actual document that somebody posted on the Internet. But is it real? Has it been verified? I can imagine some poor Indonesian finding a blank record book at a school somewhere, filling out a page, and then selling it to an American for a few bucks, passing it off as genuine.

  109. For my part, I try to avoid the rumors and conspiracy theories. I consider them nothing more than a distraction.

    That said…if others want to give them their time and energy, that’s fine by me. Different stokes for different folks (and so on and so on and scooby doobie doo). 🙂

  110. wbboei, If you’re still here, I have a question: Upthread you said you believe Hillary has been lobbied to take the VP slot but keeps turning it down. Is this based on private conversations you’ve had? just curious.

    Also, I have no doubt she knew about the tapes and am not in the least bit surprised her campaign wouldn’t touch them with a 10-foot pole. Her decision not to nuke Waffles cost her the nomination but that’s the kind of classy person she is. And yet she’s supposed to be the one who ran a “dirty” campaign. Hillary conducted the primary with one hand tied behind her back but the GOP will have no qualms about using what she couldn’t/wouldn’t.

  111. FOX NEWS Alert:
    Just announced an agreement between the Clinton and Obama camps that Our Hillary will have her name placed in nomination at the Denver Convention.I pray this is true and not another Barry.diversion of the facts to buy more time for the comings of the whirrrrrrrring Fan that Fox and the Repugs have in store for him.

    Keep faith Hillary Fans It will be Hillary

    By ABM90

  112. BTW, That Daily Kooks comment about how bots will throw their cell phones out the window if Waffles picks Bayh or Kaine as VP had me LMAO.

  113. Jen-I think bots are using ambinder for deceptive purposes and he is content to be a conduit rather than a critical thinker. The only thing I know for sure dead solid certain zero percent doubt is we if we show up in huge numbers it will make a difference on what goes on it the convention hall and November.

  114. Paula, who do the Obots want for Veep?? Maybe they would just like to clone Bambi and he could be POTUS and VEEP! That would be their dream ticket!

  115. I wish I knew what Harold Ickes and the insiders must know about the rules and bylaws of the Democratic convention. There is some significant, behind-the-scenes procedural reason — totally different from catharsis and the hope that during the vote she actually wins — behind Hillary’s desire to have her name placed in nomination, and I can’t figure out what it is.

  116. I really don’t think they will notice the protest although I think it should be done to show the country and the world, I really don’t think they care about the emails and letters, although filling their inboxes would mean something to them.

    What counts are our votes (November and against the people who shoved this down our throats), and court actions.

    I also think the PUMA and the national ads get their attention.

    Polling has got to have the shaking in their boots. Unless they think they already have this fixed.

    If they lose in November with O, the Dems will be forced to clean house.

    Both are meaningful.

  117. CNN ticker says Clinton name will be placed in nomination at the convention

    O has given his permission. Give me a break, the dictator is going to do us a favor when 18M voted for her. I angers me.

  118. Just got an email from the DNC gripping about Corsi, the author of the Obama Nation! THey are all in an uproar at the DNC about this book!! Ha Ha!
    THey are acting like their hands are clean and above board, that only the republicans cheat, well we all know their hands are even dirtier than the republicans!

  119. confloyd, i have no idea whom the bots want for VP, lol. I never read Kos or the other Waffles-loving blogs.

  120. WoooooooooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hillary’s name in nomination!

    Neetabug??? Road trip? 😀

  121. wbboei, If you’re still here, I have a question: Upthread you said you believe Hillary has been lobbied to take the VP slot but keeps turning it down. Is this based on private conversations you’ve had? just curious.
    ———————————————
    Paula: my understanding is it was first offered to her that night she and bambi met at feinsteins house, and she turned it down. That word came out of the california delegation and was posted on a blog which may have been posted on this site-I do not recall. I know Bill wanted her to have it, but she was never keen on the idea. She did say at one point she would have to accept it if asked but that was not a whole hearted endorsement. When she was asked she has always maintained it is up to him. I have spoken to one indivivdual who is not affiliated with her campaign but knows the whole picure–someone I rely on for some of my insights–conflyd knows who he is. He had told me repeatedly she has been offered does not want it and will not get it. Then yesterday I heard it again on Plains Radio–and that they tried to force it on her. It makes sense they would try because he needs to unite the party and the stupid bastard has yet to figure out that he needs her more than she needs him.

  122. Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
    I wish I knew what Harold Ickes and the insiders must know about the rules and bylaws of the Democratic convention. There is some significant, behind-the-scenes procedural reason — totally different from catharsis and the hope that during the vote she actually wins — behind Hillary’s desire to have her name placed in nomination, and I can’t figure out what it is.
    ===========

    As to the rules, the DNC seems to stretch or change or ignore them as needed.

    For HIllary’s reason — well, one reason is that if Obama lands in jail, the mechanism is in place for her to be nominated. All it will take is enough delegates switching at the last moment.

  123. wbboei,

    She has at least twice said she did not want VP and would only take it if requested as a favor to the party.

    Why do you thnk Bill wants her to be VP? He sure isn’t acting like it. He’s snubbing Obama, refusing to say he’s qualified, etc.

  124. The trouble is that with Obama, wild theories turn out to be true!

    Who would have believed that wild stuff about Rev Wright if it hadn’t been on tape!

  125. There are no unilateral moves in a sophisticated negotiation. The process moves forward through tradeoffs. Thus, I would assume that she traded the speaker spot for giving people a chance to vote at the convention. Yes, it is a way to bring unity if unity is possible. But it is a great tribute to Hillary as a democrat in the highest sense of the word that she would give the delegates a chance to decide and to show courage or not. From the beginning of this campaign to the covention she has stood for the principle of democracy. If the powers that be can seduce us with smoke and mirrors so we lose sight of that principle then the quotation by the 1st Century Roman Poet cited above becomes self fulfilling prophesy. That is what the globalists are hoping for. I am not new to this since I saw it happen in the other party which has morphed from the party of small government to the party of world government which was just cause for me to quit supporting the RNC. We must not allow the same thing to happen here. We have got to be Americans first. Hillary is the greatest leader and her fate and ours are as one.

  126. rgb44hrc Says to admin:
    Hey, 5:41am!!? Yikes. Do you sleep only two hours a day? Or as conspiracy theorists might conjecture, Is there more than one of you
    =============

    Hey,that’s my conspiracy theory about admin. Half a dozen middle aged ladies in pearls drinking fancy cocktails and saying all the things they aren’t allowed to say in public.

    Admin does keep saying “we.”

  127. NewMexicoFan: “…O has given his permission….”

    Yes, aren’t the little women lucky ‘the man’ has given permission for a woman’s name to be put in nomination. The sexism never ends does it.

    Birdgal: yes.

    Great article as usual Admin.

  128. turndownobama: because he said it and because Lanny and others were pushing for it presumably at his request not hers. I doubt he wants it for her now. Originally he said she deserved it because her strong performance in the primary. Perhaps he was just stating a fact, rather than indicating a preference, but I assumed the latter. But it is probalbly all moot now.

  129. rgb44hrc Says to admin:
    Hey, 5:41am!!? Yikes. Do you sleep only two hours a day? Or as conspiracy theorists might conjecture, Is there more than one of you
    ——————————————–
    Rgb44: I believe in the single shooter theory. Admin has a brilliant mind, and a brilliant mind never sleeps. Personally, I have never had a problem with insomnia.

  130. Rolling Stone is actually la good source for anti-Obama facts. They are so deep in the koolaid bubble that they don’t realized some of the things they say are usevul against Obama.

    Like, O saying his mother had ‘jungle fever’ and liked black men, and other disrespectful things about her.

    And saying that Axelrod followed Obama aruond with a camera watching supporters’ reaction, and one middleaged lady said “I think I’m in love” just from hearing about O’s birth and Indonesia, so they quickly made that importnat.

  131. The wording of this sudden decision to put Hillary’s name in nomination makes me sick. Wasn’t it the DNC who stated that it was Hillary’s decision whether or not she wanted to have this occur? WTH gives a nobody president wannabe the right to say he will “allow” anything to occur? The guy is an idiot. The media are idiots. The DNC are stained with this corruption forever more.

  132. It will all be choreographed so that Hillary swoons at the great Houdini/er Obama’s feet in adoration and presents her delegates to him on a silver platter.

    All for the sake of false party unity.

  133. That is exactly why I will not watch this FALSE Democratic convention. The Reps at least within their own party let the popular vote decide, and they are not putting a crown on their nominee.

    My view point has changed so much within the last year, it is scary.

  134. Says:

    August 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    WoooooooooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hillary’s name in nomination!

    Neetabug??? Road trip?

    I will e-mail you

  135. Virginias Warner tapped for Democrats key speech

    Mark Warner, Virginia’s former governor and its Democratic candidate for the Senate, has been tapped to be the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention, a plum spot that is often a springboard to national prominence.

    Four years ago another candidate for the Senate _ Barack Obama of Illinois _ used the keynote address to begin a rise in national politics expected to reach the Democratic nomination for president. Obama’s campaign called Warner an innovative businessman and bipartisan leader in formally announcing his convention role Wednesday.

    Placing Warner in the national spotlight could help boost his campaign in Virginia, where he is trying to win the Senate seat of retiring Republican John Warner. Obama is also campaigning hard in Virginia, a state that Republican George W. Bush won in the last two elections but one the Obama campaign thinks could turn to the Democrats.

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama’s rival during the presidential primaries, is also scheduled to speak Aug. 26, the Tuesday night of the four-day convention in Denver. The theme for Democrats that evening centers on economic opportunity.

    “Like Barack Obama, Mark Warner is not afraid to challenge the status quo to bring people together and get things moving,” campaign manager David Plouffe said in a statement. “Its that kind of spirit and innovation that resulted in his selection as keynote speaker on a night when we will be discussing how to renew Americas promise.”

    Warner, a businessman who became wealthy from work and investments in the cellular telephone industry, ran an exploratory campaign for the 2008 presidential nomination early in the race.He surprised many Democrats when he ultimately decided against running, saying he didn’t want to put the demands of a national run on his family. There was talk he might be a good running mate pick for Obama, but he removed himself from consideration, saying he would only pursue the Senate seat.

    Some news reports had incorrectly said Clinton would be the keynote speaker _ although the convention committee and campaign always described her as the Tuesday “headliner.” Clinton and Obama advisers have been in delicate negotiations over her role at the convention, with some of her supporters calling for her name to be put in nomination because of her strong second-place showing.

    Giving Warner the prime role could be viewed as a slight to some of those supporters as the Obama campaign is working to build unity going into the fall election. But Sam Arora, a former Clinton staffer who co-founded a group, VoteBoth.com, that encouraged Obama to pick Clinton as his running mate, said Warner was a good choice.

    “Mark Warner is the future of the Democratic Party, and putting him on Tuesday night with Hillary Clinton is exactly right move for Obama,” said Arora, who shut down the VoteBoth.com effort two weeks ago under the assumption that Clinton would not be picked. “They highlight Senator Obama’s vision and leadership qualities.”

    A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a message for comment.

    Obama’s wife, Michelle, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will be the featured first-night speakers at the convention. Michelle Obama will be introduced by her brother, Craig Robinson, a former basketball star at Princeton and now coach at Oregon State, on the first night, Aug. 25. Barack Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, also will have a role.

    Other opening night speakers include Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper and Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, an early Obama supporter, organizers said Tuesday.

    Opening night will also feature a tribute to Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, who has taped a five-minute video to air during the party gathering. Kennedy suffered a seizure at his Hyannisport, Mass., house on May 17 and was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. He underwent surgery and recently completed a six-week course of chemotherapy and radiation.

    The opening night theme is “One Nation.” The Tuesday night theme is “Renewing America’s Promise,” while Wednesday’s is “Securing America’s Future,” with an acceptance speech by Obama’s still-unannounced vice presidential candidate.

    The theme for Aug. 28, the night Obama formally accepts the nomination at the Denver Broncos’ football stadium, is “Change You Can Believe In.” Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter will be among speakers that night.

    http://www.southernledger.com/ap/161601/Virginias_Warner_tapped_for_Democrats_key_speech
    ****************************************************** Cable channel TCM is playing Mrs. Miniver and the Miniver Story. All the great speeches is on TV.

  136. Hillary staff just posted a press release on the mutual decision to place Hillary’s name into nomination in Denver.It is on hae web page.I can just envision Hillary using one of those stupid Nutcrackers and hearing Barry crying OK OK OK ,I give up.Hillary and Bill planned and carried a clean surgical stike on the Walking EAGLE.Barry is losing his family Jewels.
    Patience is still a virtue and she has used it well.She is truly our National Treasure and a True American

    BY ABM90 I actually do’nt feel so old today.

  137. Oprah to join Obama for Democratic Party crowning
    57 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — America’s talk show diva Oprah Winfrey will join Barack Obama to watch as he is crowned the Democratic Party’s presidential candidate, her office confirmed Thursday.

    Obama will give his acceptance speech before a crowd of about 75,000 people at the Invesco field football stadium in Denver in a break with tradition which is likely to prove a spectacular climax to the four-day party convention.

    “She will be there,” a spokeswoman for her publicist told AFP, without giving further details.

    A close friend, Gayle King, also told the television program Entertainment Tonight that the 54-year-old high priestess would join Obama for the final night, but would not address the crowds.

    Winfrey is one of the nation’s most influential women, and her endorsement of Obama may give him a significant edge in November’s presidential elections among women and black voters in key election states.

    Her legendary book club on her afternoon television chat show has turned unknown authors into best sellers.

    The show is estimated to attract up to 10 million viewers daily and she earned 260 million dollars in the year 2007, according to Forbes Magazine.

    Now Winfrey hopes her support could sway the loyal legions of female Hillary Clinton supporters who were disppointed by the former first lady’s defeat by Obama in the party’s primaries.

    Forbes magazine recently described Oprah as the most powerful celebrity in the United States, ahead of golf star Tiger Woods and Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie.

    After throwing her support behind Obama late last year, Winfrey accompanied him for the Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries. She has also organized a fund-raising benefit at her home in Santa Barbara, California.

    But the Illinois senator, who has sparked “Obama-mania” with tens of thousands flocking to his rallies, is walking a delicate tightrope in handling the star-studded support he has already attracted.

    His Republican rival John McCain earlier this month released a scathing video comparing Obama to troubled popular culture divas Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, and mocking his global celebrity.

    afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5il_BRuikTtAfScjS-ncqBukOei8A
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    Crowning = King

  138. I think it’s to shut up, once and for all, those of us who are still “dilusionally” fighting for Hillary. It’s to show us that she really has very little support and that we should all get down on our knees and be grateful for the one and only obama.

    Sorry but I’m seeing red here.

  139. Obama and McCain remain in a tie, according to national polling:

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    Thursday, August 14, 2008

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Barack Obama attracting 43% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.

    The race for the White House remains remarkably stable. With leaners, Obama’s support has stayed between 46% and 48% every day for the past two weeks. During that same time frame, McCain has been at 46% or 47% every day.

    Data released yesterday afternoon shows that both Virginia and Nevada remain too close to call. Other data shows that 61% of voters nationwide want Congress to return immediately and vote on allowing offshore oil drilling. Sign up for the Rasmussen Reports daily e-mail update (it’s free) and we will keep you up to date with the latest public opinion news.

    Obama leads among voters who make less than $40,000 a year or more than $100,000 annually. McCain leads above those in between. Among Investors, McCain leads 50% to 45% while Obama leads among non-Investors 53% to 40% (more demographic data for Premium Members via the Daily Snapshot).

    McCain is now viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 54%

  140. From NYT:

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    August 14, 2008, 10:50 am
    Clinton’s Name Will Be Put in Nomination
    By Jeff Zeleny

    Updated |12:25: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s name will be placed into nomination at the Democratic National Convention, a symbolic move approved by the Obama campaign in an effort to soothe a lingering rift with Clinton supporters.

    “I am convinced that honoring Senator Clinton’s historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong united fashion,” Senator Barack Obama said in a statement.

    The decision was announced on Thursday afternoon in a joint statement from the senators.

    It comes after long negotiations on both sides, with many backers of Mrs. Clinton vigorously pushing for her candidacy to be validated by giving her delegates the chance to support her through a roll call vote.

    “With every voice heard and the Party strongly united, we will elect Senator Obama President of the United States and put our nation on the path to peace and prosperity once again,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement.

    For Democrats inside the convention center in Denver, as well as the television audience at home, it could create some interesting moments. After the state-by-state roll is tallied, Mrs. Clinton is expected to turn over her cache of delegates to Senator Barack Obama.

    So how will Mrs. Clinton, who is a superdelegate herself, vote? Associates say she will throw her lot behind Mr. Obama and ask her supporters to follow suit. To see if it unfolds as the Obama campaign hopes – free of acrimony – tune in on Wednesday, Aug. 27

  141. When I read all this is makes me sick at my stomach, I mean, Hillary is the only one in the primary that actually won something. She won the popular vote, Obama did not win enough delegates to beat her nor did he get the popular vote win, this whole primary is fraudulent!
    What I am really pist and I wish we could all get a class action law suit against the DNC for misrepresentation of a primary, obviously the nomination was already decided, yet the DNC and its candidates hijacked money from unsuspecting supporters.

  142. From Politico — Obama exacts revenge against Charlie Rangel:

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    Payback? Obama snubs Rangel
    By: Glenn Thrush
    August 14, 2008 09:43 AM EST

    The Obama campaign is denying House Ways and Means Chairman Charles B. Rangel a speaking role at this month’s Democratic National Convention — a move those close to the powerhouse Harlem congressman view as a spiteful snub.

    Rangel surrogates approached Obama staffers this week about the possibility of securing him a slot at the podium, making the case that it would showcase reconciliation between the nominee and Hillary Rodham Clinton’s African-American supporters.

    But they were told that the 78-year-old congressman’s support for Clinton earned him a place at the end of the line behind Barack Obama’s loyalists — even if Rangel played a crucial part in prodding Clinton to abandon her presidential bid in June.

    “It’s crazy. … This man [Rangel] controls tax policy in the United States. He’s a lot bigger than just a regular member of Congress. He deserves more respect than this,” said a Rangel confidant. “Basically they have told us they can’t help us, that there are too many Obama supporters ahead of Charlie on the line.”

    [snip]

  143. No Way, No Bama Ophray. I used to watch your show, but no more, how could you back a candidate with so MUCH baggage!

  144. Clinton’s name will be in nomination
    By Sam Youngman
    Posted: 08/14/08 01:12 PM [ET]

    Sen. Barack Obama’s (Ill.) campaign said Thursday that is has encouraged former rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) to place her name in the nomination at this month’s Democratic convention.

    “I am convinced that honoring Sen. Clinton’s historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong, united fashion,” Obama said in a statement.

    Observers have been questioning for months whether there continues to be a rift between the two former opponents, and there have been several reports that Clinton supporters plan to demonstrate at the convention in Denver.

    Placing both names in nomination will serve as “a show of unity and in recognition of the historic race she ran and the fact that she was the first woman to compete in all of our nation’s primary contests,” the two Democratic campaigns said in a joint statement.

    Party unity has been a big question mark for the Democrats following the contentious 54-primary battle waged between the two senators. The contest, for all intents and purposes, ended with an emotionally charged meeting of the Democratic Party’s rules and bylaws committee. The panel awarded Obama delegates from Michigan and Florida, evaporating Clinton’s last, best hope for a comeback victory.

    Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, are both scheduled to speak at the convention, and reports are circulating that daughter Chelsea might also be heard from on the convention stage.

    In the joint statement, both campaigns stressed that the reason for placing Clinton’s name in nomination is to demonstrate party unity.

    “Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton are looking forward to a convention unified behind Barack Obama as the party’s nominee and to victory this fall for America,” the statement read.

    Despite the calls for unity, one Democratic strategist who endorsed Obama early said the campaign is giving too much away and the Clintons have not shown enough good will to earn such treatment at the convention.

    “I have never seen a worse negotiation in my lifetime,” the strategist said.

    thehill.com/campaign-2008/clintons-name-will-be-in-nomination-2008-08-14.html

  145. Wow! What a close race, at this point in time. Neck-in-neck.

    I think the dems thought, they would be ahead at this point in time.

  146. “the Clintons have not shown enough good will?” Enough already! This is not the 2nd coming of the Messiah. This is a stupid joke on all Americans and it ceased being funny long ago. Now it is just plain stupid!

  147. one Democratic strategist who endorsed Obama early said the campaign is giving too much away and the Clintons have not shown enough good will to earn such treatment at the convention.

    “I have never seen a worse negotiation in my lifetime,” the strategist said.

    One word: JERK.

  148. Carbynew, that article you just posted makes me mad as hell!
    Does anyone still have the DNC telephone number, its time for me to call and vent again!

  149. Sen. Barack Obama’s (Ill.) campaign said Thursday that is has encouraged former rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) to place her name in the nomination at this month’s Democratic convention.

    “Encouraged”? Puhleez…peddle that horseshit to someone who will buy it.

  150. Now Winfrey hopes her support could sway the loyal legions of female Hillary Clinton supporters who were disppointed by the former first lady’s defeat by Obama in the party’s primaries.
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    Oprah is box office poison to Hillary supporters.

  151. Anti-abortion Sen. Bob Casey to Address Democrats
    Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:45 PM

    WASHINGTON — Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who opposes abortion rights, will be a featured speaker at the party’s national convention, officials said Wednesday.

    Casey was set to speak during the convention’s session Tuesday night, his office said. He is the son of the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert P. Casey, who was not given a marquee speaking spot at the 1992 convention because of his anti-abortion views.

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama supports abortion rights. Casey endorsed Obama over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, also an abortion-rights supporter, and campaigned with Obama throughout Pennsylvania. Clinton trounced Obama in the primary but not by a big enough margin to thwart his bid for the nomination.

    Casey said in a statement that he was honored to have the opportunity to speak. Neither he nor the Obama campaign indicated what would be the topic of his speech.

    “Our country faces very grave economic, military and foreign policy challenges and many Americans of all political parties will vote for a change in November. Barack Obama is the only candidate who offers that change of direction we need,” Casey said.

    Craig Schirmer, Obama’s Pennsylvania director, said in a statement that having Casey speak reflects Obama’s desire to unify the party and country.

    The proposed Democratic platform to be voted on by delegates has a plank for abortion rights that is stronger than usual. “The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right,” it says.

    In the past the plank has said abortion should be safe, legal and “rare.” This year the party also pledges to ensure access to adoption programs, prenatal and postnatal care and income support programs for expectant mothers who need the help.

    At the 2000 convention, Casey and his brother, Pat, spoke in tribute to their father, who had died earlier that year.

    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/bob_casey/2008/08/14/122005.html
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    Isn’t Tuesday night suppose to honor Women and their fight for equality and voting rights? If it’s about Women and those weak Women group equate Pro-Choice and self determination their issues, it seem strange to me why Sen. Bob Casey was given that night.

    Under the bus? Given permission to stay on the Bus?

    “I am convinced that honoring Senator Clinton’s historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong united fashion,” Senator Barack Obama said in a statement.

    Hmmmn………Given permission to stay on the bus.

  152. its sounds like a real farce to me. ths report says she is releasing the delegates prior to the vote. she is voting for obama-a signal to her delegates to vote with her. just waiting for denver to be over. this election begain with so much happiness and now i pray for it to end.

    The Obama and Clinton camps have agreed to have Hillary Clinton’s name placed in nomination for the roll-call vote at the Democratic convention, according to a source familiar with the discussions.
    The source adds that the mechanics of this are still being worked out, but it’s “likely” that Clinton will release her delegates to vote for Obama after her name is submitted. Clinton — who is a superdelegate — will cast her delegate vote for Obama.

    First Read

  153. Carby: UNDER the bus. Celebrating Women and their fight for equality and voting rights has been supplanted.

  154. I am so sick of this crap, they have to have something they are holding over her or they are threatening her. I will NEVER vote for the any democrat ever again. I think our best bet is to infiltrate the republicans and force them to take up some of our platforms and screw the democrats!

  155. From a poster on The Confluence. It was too funny to pass up:

    “Speaking of Pelosi, there was a post on Liberal Rapture yesterday envisioning where she’ll be in November 2010:
    And Pelosi, ah Pelosi, A funny Californian will run Toonces the Driving Cat against her as a joke. But with polls showing Toonces up by 30 points with a week to go – she will throw herself off the Golden Gate Bridge. To her surprise, all the plastic surgery will make her buoyant. Pelosi will simply float out into the Pacific, eventually joining a colony of seals in the Aleutians. There she will spend her final days happily barking and fighting with other seals for small fish….”

    Also, see the photoshop of pelosi

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/breaking-who-knows-whats-going-on-and-nancy-pelosi-kiss-my/#more-3782

  156. Jesus Christ everyone stop listening to the fucking propanganda. Its 2 weeks away!!! The important thing is her name be in nomination. That is a victory, hello/

  157. here is why i dont think hillary can be the nom. she is voting for bo at the conv. she will ask her delegates to vote for him. she is releasing her delegates for the vote. many of her delegates will vote obama as she is voting for obama. we were never allowed to have the fight entitles to an toher nominee in such a close contest. this is no coordinated floor fight etc.. at first it sounded exciting but now i see hat is-a sham. someone correct me if im completely wrong.

  158. Let’s not lose sight of the forest through the trees: today’s decision to let Hillary’s name be put into nomination is a huge victory for us, plain and simple. The diplomatic and soothing statements from the Clinton campaign are precisely what they have to say. If they said anything different I’d be worried. If Hillary is to win the nomination, which she can still do if things break our way, she has to thread the needle here, and carefully juggle considerations re: public relations, her public image, the need to not appear divisive.

  159. no assessment we make today based on enemy propaganda will be accurate two weeks from now. There are too many forces in motion. I have the same reaction we all do when this gruel comes over the transome, but I know how important it is to stay the course. You all can get depressed about this if you like but I would rather wait and see what happens. There will be more of this too so the main thing is not to get discouraged.

  160. Apparently, the votes will be electronically cast and the total tabulated.
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    good

  161. riverdaughter lays it out-we want a free fair vote.
    http:/ /riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/we-want-a-floor-fight/#comments

  162. all the plastic surgery will make her buoyant. Pelosi will simply float out into the Pacific, eventually joining a colony of seals in the Aleutians. There she will spend her final days happily barking and fighting with other seals for small fish….”
    ———————————————
    And the seals would give her only an 18% rating too. Bottom of the barrel-regardless of the audience. And the seals would be just as interested in her autobiography as we are.

  163. wbboei: Actually, from a poster at Riverdaughter, the rating for Pooplosi may be as low as 4%.

    Isn’t there more room for manipulation, if the vote is electronic?

    Berkeley and wbboei: Thank you for your words of wisdom.

  164. Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Let’s not lose sight of the forest through the trees: today’s decision to let Hillary’s name be put into nomination is a huge victory for us, plain and simple.
    &&&&&

    Agreed.

    a) BO needed to “pacify” HRC supporters.
    b) SDs can quietly go about revolting against BO, for his stifling of dissent/opinion of delegates, for his inelectability, for…(you can see that this becomes a very long list quite quickly).

  165. Sorry, folks I did shouldn’t have let big media and the frauds campaign get me down. Hopefully this will be a huge victory, but folks this should be a given, we should not have to force this. THese are the rules, but of coarse when you play with Hitler, we have to play by his rules and hopefully we can beat him at his own game!!

  166. Oprah doesn’t speak for me nor does she represents me. Oprah should only speak for herself.

    I don’t get the logic. We should fall in line behind Obama just because Oprah is black and a woman, but we shouldn’t vote for Hillary just because she is a woman.

    I think that most people voted for Hillary because they believed in her and/or liked her policies. I hope that Oprah and others have a rude awakening come November.

    Sorry to say, but do you think in Hillary’s speech she will subtley disnounce the PUMAs once for all since this is suppose to be a “unity” party? I can’t see her not saying anything about. if so that will be the last straw.

    I’m not watching this farce.

  167. PUMAs!

    Tonight! PUMA/Just Say NO DEAL will be on HARDBALL on MSNBC at 7pm EST, **Top of the Hour** !!

    Thanks!

    Will

    Will Bower
    PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL

  168. US Democratic convention delegates will vote on Clinton candidacy

    Hillary Clinton’s name will be placed in nomination at the Democratic convention, a move aimed at generating enthusiasm among the vanquished candidate’s still-sizable corps of reluctant Barack Obama supporters.

    Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, and Clinton, the New York senator defeated earlier this year in a close, often-bitter nominating race, made the joint announcement today.

    “Since June, Senators Obama and Clinton have been working together to ensure a Democratic victory this November,” the statement said.

    “They are both committed to winning back the White House and to ensuring that the voices of all 35m people who participated in this historic primary election are respected and heard in Denver. To honour and celebrate these voices and votes, both Senator Obama’s and Senator Clinton’s names will be placed in nomination.”

    Many of Clinton’s backers remain wary of the presumptive nominee. When the two appeared in Unity, New Hampshire, in late June to show that they were together, the crowd cheered Clinton but was lukewarm toward Obama.

    The Illinois senator is in a virtual tie with presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in many national polls, and he needs a smooth, unifying convention to give him momentum.

    “I am convinced that honouring Senator Clinton’s historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong united fashion,” he said in a statement today.

    A new Pew Research Centre poll, released yesterday, found that Obama has picked up 72% of Clinton’s supporters but that 18% said they were likely to vote for McCain and another 10% were undecided.

    “The Obama campaign has made no significant headway among former Clinton backers over the past two months. The voting preferences of Clinton’s supporters are virtually identical to earlier polls in June and July,” a poll analysis said.

    Clinton is scheduled to speak to the convention on August 26, its second night and the 88th anniversary of the ratification of the constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote. Former president Bill Clinton will speak the following night.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/14/hillaryclinton.barackobama
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    This better be a REAL vote and not a Joke, Fake or FRAUD vote because that will REALLY make people MAD and the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY.

    Voters have choices!

  169. This is what a real President sounds like, not one off playing golf while Rome burns.
    Pumaaliance explains what a difference having Hillary as President would make. Here’s Hillary in 2002:

    If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. In recent days, Russia has talked of an invasion of Georgia to attack Chechen rebels. India has mentioned the possibility of a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. And what if China were to perceive a threat from Taiwan?

    So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.

    Can we have Hillary back now please?

  170. Hillary knows what she is doing. She is a tough lady and no ones fool. The risk we run here is accepting the one sided narrative he is putting out and projecting off that. If you want some good news tune in to mama e, or watch Will.

  171. Oprah wants Bambi because of his aid package to Africa and that he is black, what he does to America, Oprah does not care about.

  172. It just seems that all these people care about at this convention is getting the Democratic party back in the white house instead of having the RIGHT PERSON in the white house. What a shame. Power has really gotten to thse people. They act as if they don’t need our vote. Maybe they won’t, who know? We will see in November.

  173. Maryland man arrested for threats against Hillary Clinton, O’Malley and MikulskiBy Politicker Staff

    News4 reports that the Maryland State Police have arrested a 64 year old man in connection with threats against Gov. Martin O’Malley (D-Baltimore) and U.S. Senators Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Barbara Mikulski (D-Baltimore), as well as their “family and friends.”

    James Frost was arrested at around 10:30 a.m. yesterday at his home in Gaithersburg, a Washington D.C. suburb. He is currently being held at the Montgomery County Correctional Facility on charges of threatening to injure a public official.

    According to NBC/News4, the state police learned of Frost’s threats from the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office. His home is undergoing further searches.

    The arrest came less than two hours before Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney was fatally wounded by a gunman in their Little Rock offices.

    http://www.politickermd.com/editormd/3158/maryland-man-arrested-threats-against-hillary-clinton-omalley-and-mikulski

  174. confloyd Says:

    August 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    Oprah wants Bambi because of his aid package to Africa and that he is black, what he does to America, Oprah does not care about.

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    You are so right, Confloyd!

    Many blacks just want a black in the white house regardless of his shortcomings to show that we have “overcome” and the Dems just want to regain power in the whitehouse regardless. How disgusting.

    wbboei Says:

    August 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
    Hillary knows what she is doing. She is a tough lady and no ones fool. The risk we run here is accepting the one sided narrative he is putting out and projecting off that. If you want some good news tune in to mama e, or watch Will.

    wbboei: We shall see after the convention, but I am not convinced. I am very much past the Hillary situation,. I just don’t like the way things were carried.

  175. A new Pew Research Centre poll, released yesterday, found that Obama has picked up 72% of Clinton’s supporters but that 18% said they were likely to vote for McCain and another 10% were undecided.

    “The Obama campaign has made no significant headway among former Clinton backers over the past two months. The voting preferences of Clinton’s supporters are virtually identical to earlier polls in June and July,” a poll analysis said.
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    This is understated but it is huge. The truth is even huger. It is like in the late states he was outspending us as much as 5 to 1 and still could never close the deal. Sorry bambi-there are some things money cant buy.

  176. Michael Moore Thinks He Speaks for All Democrats
    Written by Arya Ponto
    Thursday, 14 August 2008

    Michael Moore has just released a book called Mike’s Election Guide 2008, which is apparently a manifesto of why the people should vote Democrat in the upcoming election and also how the Democrats can win it, in his usual humorous way. Sure, standard stuff for Michael Moore, but what caught my attention was a synopsis/excerpt he posted on his website. As he calls it, it’s a blueprint on how Barack Obama can lose to John McCain in six simple steps. Guess what Step #6 is: “Denounce me!”

    I always knew that Moore has some ego on him that makes him think that everything is about him, but on this article he’s pretty much saying so outright. You see, he seems to think that John Kerry lost the 2004 election because he publicly said he had not seen and will not be seeing Fahrenheit 9/11. “I sat there watching him say this, and I just felt sorry for him and for the election he was about to lose,” Moore wrote. Wow.

    So the filmmaker’s advise to Senator Obama?

    “So Barack, by denouncing me, you can help McCain get elected. Because when you denounce me, it’s not really me you’re distancing yourself from — it’s the millions upon millions of people who feel the same way about things as I do.”

    What the–? So by not playing nice with Michael Moore, Obama is effectively dissing “millions” of people who happen to agree with Michael Moore on certain subjects? What is he, our collective consciousness personified? Why the hell would Moore’s name even enter the race? The idea that he matters at all is insipid. What’s next, Hillary Clinton lost the primary because she didn’t hang with George Clooney more often?

    And speaking of Clooney, last Tueday FOX News reported an erronous article from London’s gossip-ridden Daily Mail that Obama had been regularly texting and e-mailing the star, and even taking advises from Clooney on Middle East issues. Uh huh. Clooney was quick to dismiss the notion:

    “I have never texted or emailed Senator Obama. And I’ll offer a million dollars to anyone who could prove otherwise. In fact, I’ve only talked to the Senator once in the last year and a half….on the phone. I’ve spent more time with Senator McCain (he did my TV show) then I have with Senator Obama. I would hope that my friend John McCain would join me in condemning this kind of politics. Although I support Senator Obama, I would never be dumb enough to offer policy advice to either candidate. They seem to be doing fine without me.”

    The other five of Moore’s steps, by the way, are not much better. I don’t intend to discuss politics on this site and I’ll never tell people how they should choose their vote, but I just have to say that when the crux of Moore’s strategy is “We can’t acknowledge any of McCain’s good policies or his past as a war hero! We must smear him like the Satan’s sodomy baby that he is so people would prefer Obama!” then it’s just downright pathetic and he’s making a mockery of the American election process.

    I bet Michael Moore resents Clooney for befriending John McCain when the man clearly should have used his People’s Sexiest Man of the Year talents for the Donkey Effort. For shame, Clooney. For shame.

    justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/3854-michael-moore-thinks-he-speaks-for-all-democrats.html
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    “Like attracts like”….in other words: “Birds of a feather flock together.”

  177. lil ole grape Says:

    August 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    You will comply.
    Resistance is futile.
    You will be assimilated
    We are the borg.
    We are the DNC
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    I guess will should look at Hillary as Captain Jean-Luc Picard character….hmmm.

  178. Modo sounds more and more like someone on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I am sitting here trying to think of what it might take to push her over the edge. Not much I would think.

  179. Maureen Dowd has always had an axe to grind with Hillary, no matter what she does. Her bias is so blatant that it’s turned her into a caricature at this point.

  180. I believe it was on the radio this morning that I heard that McCain stated that even though he is “pro-life”, he will not use that as a litmus test for his Veep selection.

    In other words, he’s not that radical. He’s proven pragmatic, centrist, and that’s why the Repubs went with him this year, because that was pretty much their only angle that would work after eight disastrous years under Bush.

    McCain’s been hanging with pro-choice Tom Ridge…apparently, McCain’s pragmatism includes standing up to the single-issue pro-lifer extremists, in order to woo the centrists. I mean, there are a lot of PUMA’s who’d feel terribly conflicted if McCain went too far right (too pro-life, or drilling in ANWAR, etc.).

    McCain is deftly pivoting toward the center. Obama’s attempt at pivoting has been clumsy, and has the potential for driving away the progressives and lefties.

  181. wbboei: Have a possible cure for MoDo.Hide her Vibrator and send it to Tweety.Both of them will go crazy.

  182. all I gotta say is “Damn you guys are good”

    Congratulations for getting Hillary’s name on the ballot.

  183. NYT: After the state-by-state roll is tallied, Mrs. Clinton is expected to turn over her cache of delegates to Senator Barack Obama
    ==================

    Welllll, that might depend on how the tally turns out…. 🙂

  184. wbboei,

    I understand what you are saying, but I’m just a little road weary where this whole primary is concerned. I would like to believe that this is a wonderful accomplishment for Hillary to have her name added (nevermind that it is her god-given right) but I’m not ready to accept that the DNC and Obama don’t have more tricks up their sleeves/want to destroy the Clintons once and for all.

    I hope I’m wrong. I really do.

  185. Re Pew poll:
    “The Obama campaign has made no significant headway among former Clinton backers over the past two months. The voting preferences of Clinton’s supporters are virtually identical to earlier polls in June and July,” a poll analysis said
    ================

    The polls may not be set up right to notice two factors:
    1. Many people who were Democrats have now left the party in protest.
    2. Many Clinton supporters plan to show their protest by staying home, which may get them classified as ‘unlikely to vote’ and therefore not counted in the polls.

  186. Didn’t see it up thread but assuming it’s known & been discussed,
    that apparently a deal has been reached and Hill’s name will be placed in nomination in Denver, according to several different sources.
    Are we supposed to be thankful for this?

    Ok, see TurnDownObama has it; Right, it depends on the outcome 🙂

    Berkeley,
    Dowd doesn’t have to grind with Hill (maybe she does on a personal level, who knows), or at least that’s not the cause of her never-ending string of bullshit. It’s her job.

  187. As I have said in the past.FOX is already starting the trashing of Hillary.Cavuto another self loving part of the Fox Fair and Balanced scum machine told a Puma guest on his show that Obama won and Hillary lost so why is she whining and crying. Fox is just as biased and corrupt as MSNBC and CNN.They all have their private battle to be the one to destroy any Dem and any woman that dares to compete.I really believe th networks and big business are slick race baiters and have waged a vicious campaign for ratings and the destruction of any one that dares to compete with their choices for control of our minds and our country.Wake up fellow citizens.The enemies within can be more dangerous than thos from without.The answer to them all is boycott boycott,boycott.The power of the purse(if we will have any left at the rate we are beig squeezed) and our votes for Hillary may be the only choice remaining to make things right.

    By ABM90 America Don’t give up the fight.

  188. texan4hillary Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
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    As of now, I haven’t seen any confirmation of the things you’re talking about. Aren’t they still under negotiation?

  189. ABM90, I think the reason FOX and other conservatives are starting in again on Hillary is because it’s starting to dawn on them that the Dems (a) still don’t officially have a nominee yet and (b) anything can happen at a convention. Their worst nightmare is that Hillary gets the nomination and they don’t get to pound Obama into the ground in September.

    On to Denver!

  190. Berkeley Vox Says:
    August 14th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    ABM90, I think the reason FOX and other conservatives are starting in again on Hillary is because it’s starting to dawn on them that the Dems (a) still don’t officially have a nominee yet and (b) anything can happen at a convention.
    &&&&

    Any trashing of Hillary by MSM, Repubs, or Obamabots obviously indicates nervousness that she’s still a viable candidate.

    Might I repeat what has been said before. NJ in 2006 had already “selected” Robert Torricelli as their nominee, but as concerns of various scandals reached a critical tipping point, the NJ Democratic Party quietly got him to drop out so he could “spend more time with his family”. And it took them just a couple of days to recruit Frank Lautenberg.

    Obama has not yet been “selected”. SDs have time to think this through. Enjoy the bumpy ride!

  191. ABM90,

    A BIG AMEN to that.

    Power to the purse!!!!!

    And don’t forget to tell your elected officials that 2/3 of companies doing business in the US do not pay taxes is TOTALLY unacceptable. Stop putting the burden on the working class!!!

  192. Yeah, I noticed the hammering of Hillary today by the newscasters on all networks. THe PUMA’S that are on these show should thank them for bashing Hillary because that shows they stilll believe she can still win. I wish I could go on, I would laugh them off their chairs. They are scared shitless about going against her. That’s totally funny and should be considered GOOD NEWS!!

  193. U.S. has forfeited it’s moral authority
    by Andrew Sullivan an Obama supporter:

    andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/everyones-a-cri.html

    It’s always smart to know what the other side think of us…

  194. Breaking the Press: excerpt only

    The Real Story

    On the GOP side, McCain did catch some lucky breaks. The most notable was that the major figures in the party who could have beaten him — Jeb Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Newt Gingrich, even Colin Powell — chose not to run for a variety of reasons. (In Schwarzenegger’s case, the decision was made for him by the Constitution.) And true, the field that remained proved to be a weak one.

    But McCain won mostly because Republicans almost always avoid upstarts and gravitate to the front-running figure in their party — an inclination that, for the most part, has served them well in the past. Moreover and predictably, the experience McCain had obtained running in 2000 served him well. He had the guts to skip Iowa (maybe Clinton should have done the same) and he didn’t panic when his campaign went through rough stretches. He also “gamed” the process better than anyone else, understanding that, if Rudy Giuliani’s candidacy didn’t take off, the former New York mayor’s support would go to McCain — as it did on Super Tuesday, giving McCain a lead in delegates that proved decisive.

    Given all this, Democrats have reason to be concerned — even if, at the moment, their confidence has been bolstered by the mostly glowing press coverage their nominee has received. History shows that the Democrats are up against an experienced, steady Republican candidate who is unlikely to make major mistakes. And their nominee, after a brilliant start in January and February to launch his candidacy and cement his base, hasn’t had a terrific six months. Obama continues to show few signs of extending his support to the demographics that are likely to decide the election — principally the working-class voters concentrated in industrial states such as Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

    The good news for Obama and the Democrats is that the race doesn’t really get serious (i.e., engage the public), until the conventions kick off the fall campaign at the end of August. A win is still well within their grasp. But it will happen only if they stop buying the press’s view of the race and begin to recognize what’s really transpired so far.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/breaking_the_press.html
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    Posted only the last 4 paragraphs…pls read the whole article.

  195. Can Clinton & Obama Forces Unite?
    By E. J. Dionne

    Will the Party of Clinton ever become the Party of Obama?

    It has now been more than two months since Barack Obama secured the Democratic presidential nomination yet here we are, still fascinated with Bill and Hillary Clinton and what they’re up to. Why?

    The latest round of Clinton mania was precipitated by Joshua Green’s article in The Atlantic on a Clinton campaign riven by unresolved factional disputes, as well as the online publication of a trove of internal memos portraying a staff in strategic and tactical gridlock.

    The notion of the Clinton campaign as a Jets-and-Sharks knife fight is hardly new. Members of the campaign’s high command were leaking so furiously against each other that Clinton loyalist and lawyer Robert Barnett was moved to write an early March memo (unearthed by Green) declaring: “STOP IT!!!! … This makes me sick. This circular firing squad that is occurring is unattractive, unprofessional, unconscionable, and unacceptable.”

    Still, it’s always entertaining to learn so quickly after the fact who said what to whom in the middle of a fierce campaign, and the memos suggest why Obama is having difficulty in moving the Clintons gently offstage and seizing control of a party whose nomination he won fair and square.

    The memos make clear that once Clinton lost her standing as the inevitable nominee, her strategy was based in part on delegitimizing Obama’s victories. Because the Clinton campaign failed to anticipate the importance of delegates elected through caucuses rather than primaries, her operatives regularly argued that Obama’s caucus triumphs lacked the same weight as her primary victories.

    Because Obama overwhelmed Clinton in many staunchly Republican states, he was said not to be the choice of real Democrats and swing voters in states such as New York and California, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    Some of the memos suggested, without quite saying so, that Clinton’s voters were more inherently virtuous than Obama’s. After all, she was the candidate of the constituency her pollster Mark Penn labeled the “Invisible Americans,” the descendants of Richard Nixon’s “Silent Majority.” The white working class, especially less well-to-do women, was with Clinton. Obama had the well-educated voters, that crowd Nixon’s Vice President Spiro Agnew saw as “effete,” and, of course, African-Americans who would have been part of Clinton’s base against any rival except Obama.

    And there is that Penn memo that speaks of Obama’s “lack of American roots.” Clinton thankfully declined to take up this idea, but John McCain’s ads are now subtly toying with it.

    The more Obama’s victories were cast as less than real, the more passionate Clinton’s own supporters became about the injustice of her defeat. A minority of her supporters threatens trouble at the Denver convention unless Obama gives her a roll call vote in which never-say-die Clintonites could express their loyalty one last time.

    Obama has already given the Clinton forces a night for Hillary and part of a night for Bill. In truth, he has little choice in a nearly 50-50 party, but the Obama people have to be frustrated with the Clintonites for not recognizing how far he is going to give them their due.

    Yet some of the Clinton folks still think that Obama has not been respectful enough of the Clintons and their historical contributions. Bill Clinton is clearly put out. This perceptive politician has to be more aware than anyone of the mistakes he and his wife’s campaign made. That makes the whole thing harder, for him and for Obama.

    All this leads you to wonder who will write the new memo that would begin with the words: “STOP IT!” Both Hillary Clinton and Obama have a lot to lose if the spirit of the rest of the memos affects her thinking now.

    If bad blood between the Clinton and Obama camps persists, it’s highly unlikely that an Obama defeat this fall would lead inexorably to a Clinton nomination the next time. Obama’s shrewd announcement Wednesday of former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner as the convention keynote speaker has a bearing on this. It not only gives a central role to a moderate Democrat from a swing state, it also points to a future that transcends the Clinton-Obama feud.

    Clinton must know that she could have won the Democratic nomination with a more coherent strategy. And her own campaigning for Obama suggests she understands that the actual nominee should not have to inherit her campaign’s circular firing squads. Much depends upon whether she can now persuade her followers to grant Obama’s nomination a legitimacy that her own campaign worked so hard to deny him.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/will_the_clintonobama_feud_con.html

  196. Pounding Corsi

    Jonathan Martin makes the point that the Obama campaign’s vigorous attack on Jerome Corsi and his new book recall the Clintons’ efforts:

    Obama may decry the partisan rancor of the past two decades, but by launching a withering counter-attack against his enemies he’s also aping one of the most effective elements within the Clinton arsenal. When they came under assault from the right-wing, they gave no quarter, responding with not just a vigorous defense but an equally vigorous counter-offensive aimed at discredting their enemies.

    Books, in fact, were a bit of a Clinton campaign specialty, and as I wrote last summer, the campaign was devastatingly effective in burying a pair of critical biographies of Clinton by authors far, far more credible than Corsi (with claims, of course, far less sensational).

    Notably, the Clinton campaign even took control of the books’ media roll-out, perhaps even leaking a copy of one to the Washington Post just before a holiday weekend. The dual aim: To define the books and the authors, and time the story for minimum impact.

    Here, the Obama campaign took a different tack, really going after the book only after it seemed to catch on. While the campaign hasn’t been able to keep Corsi out of the spotlight — he appeared on the front page of the New York Times and on CNN, among others — they have ensured that few of his appearances have gone without vigorous challenge.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

  197. One of Obama’s superdelegates will be freed from prison(!) so he can go to Denver — what an embarrassment:

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    August 15, 2008
    Judge Permits Detroit Mayor to Attend Party Convention
    By NICK BUNKLEY
    nytimes.com

    Just when it seemed that the scandal involving Detroit’s embattled mayor, Kwame M. Kilpatrick, who is facing assault and perjury charges, could not not grow any more bizarre, it did.

    On Thursday morning a judge ordered that Mr. Kilpatrick, a Democratic superedelegate, be allowed to attend the party’s national convention this month in Denver and be freed from his electronic tether, a second judge overturned the ruling hours later after prosecutors appealed.

    Judge, Ronald Giles of the 36th District Court said Mr. Kilpatrick must remain in a three-county area around Detroit unless granted permission to travel. He has been wearing a tether since last Friday, after spending a night in jail for violating the terms of his bond by traveling to Canada.

    Earlier Thursday, Judge Leonard Townsend of the Wayne County Circuit Court called the restrictions “silly” and unwarranted during an arraignment for Mr. Kilpatrick on eight felony charges including perjury.

    “I don’t think the people of the city of Detroit should be represented by a person wearing prison clothes or wearing a tether,” Judge Townsend said.

    But Michigan’s attorney general, Mike Cox, argued that Judge Townsend did not have authority to change Mr. Kilpatrick’s bond, and Judge Giles agreed.

    Mr. Kilpatrick is a Democratic superdelegate who has pledged his support to the party’s presumptive nominee, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.

    [snip]

  198. The latest Rassmussen polls are rather delicious

    McCain takes the lead in Colorado with a nice little swing from last month

    its now 47 to 45 for McCain, last month it was 49 to 42 for Obama.

    Minnesota : Obama’s lead of 12% there has been cut to just…………..4%. It was 50 to 38 last month, now its 46 to 42.

    Obama just keeps on sinking.

  199. Much of Barack Obama’s 12-point lead over John McCain has disappeared in Minnesota. He is now ahead of his Republican rival by only four percentage points 46% to 42%, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Minnesota voters. With “leaners” factored in, Obama leads 49% to 45% (Demographic Crosstabs available for Premium Members.) Last month the Democrat had a 49% to 37% lead on McCain. In June he was ahead 52% to 39%. McCain is now supported by 91% of Republicans, up from 79% a month ago. Obama earns the vote from 89% of Democrats, down two points from last month. Among unaffiliated Minnesota voters, the candidates are essentially even. Obama’s 19-point lead among women voters last month is now down to 13. McCain has moved ahead among male voters who now favor the Republican 47% to 42%. Last month, Obama had a slight edge among men.

    McCain is now regarded favorably by 60% of Minnesota voters, unfavorably by 39%. Obama is viewed favorably by 56% and unfavorably by 42%.

  200. Slides are very difficult to stop. His two attempts (the promo after Hillary suspended), and the International tour failed miserable. People are not being manipulated anymore. They watch the debates and they decide for themselves (a novel Democaratic idea).

    So SDs, exactly what make you so confident right now? HE CANNOT STOP THE SLIDE, THE REPS HAVE THEIR CONVENTION RIGHT AFTER THE DEMS, AND THE LAST VP SELECTION AND HURRAH.

    I can see O wimpering now (it was unfair, they don’t like me, they just needed more time to like me). I think Kerry can tell you, if they don’t like you, it is hard to change their minds.

    The Cliff is right in front of you, and HE CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL. WHO DOES HE EXPECT TO DO THAT, YOU!!!!

  201. Berkeley,
    I heard Waffles told kwame to stay away from denver.
    And to think KK is a BO SD. 👿

    Well, I’ve processed the HRC name in nomination issue. Evidently Chelsea will introduce her,
    and while I’m glad her delegates will have a chance to vote for her BO has probably
    replaced many of her plegies with his and I’m afraid it may turn out to be an embarrassment.
    With Rendell telling delegates to toe the line, the WA and CO being disciplined, i
    dunno. I just don’t have a good feeling about this. What does everyone think?

  202. Why do you guys still think that Hillary has a chance at the nomination? I think that she has a snowball’s chance in hell every since she “suspended” her run for president. She has thrown her support behind Obama and have asked her supporters to do the same. When she did that I was pretty much through with her then. She gave up much too quickly.

    But what I am still upset over is how the primaries was conducted, just bitter white women are still mad (don’t even acknowledge that some blacks are too), that we are mad just because we are sore losers and she lost. The fact that she lost doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the WAY that she lost because we all know there can be only one winner. They pretty much think that they don’t need our vote and may prove themselves right, I don’t know.

    My mind is set on voting McCain anyway. I don’t feel bound to a party at all.

  203. basil9, I have a weird feeling (based on no evidence, just a hunch) that Hillary’s move to get her name put into nomination is because she thinks that AFTER the convention, Obama will go into free-fall once the Republicans fire up their attack machine. At that point, if it becomes clear that Obama is embroiled in scandal (if a whitey tape surfaces, or there’s a dispute over whether he’s a U.S. citizen, etc.) and Obama is forced to step aside, then she would be permitted under DNC rules to run in his place? I realize I’m getting into fairly zany conspiracy-theory territory but something just doesn’t add up.

  204. Independent,
    I’m disgusted, too, and I agree there’s a close to zero chance of her
    being the nominee. The problem is, HE didn’t win. She did. I will not vote
    BO and will pull the lever for JM.

    Berkeley,
    If BO implodes after getting the nomination I beleive it would be the VP choice who steps in.

  205. I don’t know, i think there would be such an outcry for Hillary to take the nomination if Bambi imploded. However, the problem is at what date can Bambi’s name not be taken off the ballot and he would have to crash and burn. Thats the problem.

    There would be a legal cut off date to file for the election.

  206. I think Obama would have to go down before the end of September, as i think the candidates must be in place 1 month before Election and that would mean Oct 4th.

  207. Hi Guys:

    Dr Lynette Long, our great friend and National Coordinator-Research for Real Democrats has organized and analyzed the caucus data
    to demonstrate EXACTLY how the the results were purposely manipulated and skewed to secure Obama’s nomination.

    Please look at her excellent example from Nevada– a state Clinton won.

    “On January 19, 2008, Hillary Clinton won the Democratic Caucus 51%-45%, a comfortable six point win. The estimated National Delegates were Clinton 13 and Obama 12. At the County the percentages changed to 51% to 49% Clinton and the estimated National Delegate count was now Obama 13, Clinton 12. Nevada’s twenty-five “pledged” delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention were chosen on May 17, Barack Obama had 55% of the votes and Clinton had 45% of the votes when the party had its state convention. There are 14 national delegates for Obama and 11 for Clinton. By time the contest reached the state convention and the delegate count was now Obama 14, Clinton 11. How is this 16 point swing possible? This is a four delegate swing. How did Clinton lose two delegates and Obama gain two delegates?”

    Read that again:
    Clinton won the state 51%-45%
    …but ended up with 3 fewer delegates!

    Her site contains many other examples of intimidation, chicanery and outright foolishness….
    In one caucus they ran out of ballots–so they used “Post-It” notes–not surprisingly, when the final votes were counted there were more “stickies” than persons present…

    THIS IS THE STORY THAT MUST BE TOLD THIS WEEK.

    Please go to her site immediately and start reading. Trust me: you will be blown away!

    http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

    Paulie Abeles

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