Barack Obama Vs. Hillary Clinton Supporters – The Obama Insults To Women Continue

Before we begin today’s article: Congratulations to Ricki Lieberman. Ricki’s Hillraising Electability Watch newsletter is a must read delight. [We wrote about Ricki Leiberman HERE, HERE, and HERE – To get Ricki Leiberman’s newsletter email Ricki at rrlieberma@gmail.com ]

Taylor Marsh’s website headlines an article which states Clinton Distances Herself From Anti-Obama Hillraiser. Presumably that Hillraiser is Hillraising Ricki Leiberman. The Taylor Marsh link is to an article on Arriana Huff n’ Puff which also breathlessly proclaims Clinton Distances Herself From Anti-Obama Hillraiser. So when/how did Hillary throw Ricki Leiberman under the bus?

Ricki was thrown under the bus by Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi – NOT by Hillary Clinton. All the evidence for the entire breathless article at Arriana Huff n’ Puff consists of this flacid reed: A spokesperson for Sen. Clinton implicitly distanced the candidate from Lieberman’s effort. . . A spokespersonimplicitly – yeah, a real smackdown.

Ricki Leiberman is being attacked by internet Hopium dens because Ricki is effective. Congratulations Ricki! Email Ricki Leiberman (rrlieberma@gmail.com) and thank her and congratulate her for her effectiveness. GO! GO! GO! Ricki!

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Now back to Obama’s latest insult.

One of our commentors wrote this regarding a town hall hosted by Greta Van Susteren which Obama is NOT attending:

Good News and Bad News!!

As you might imagine, the “women vote” is going to be very important this November…especially since many had aligned themselves with Senator Clinton and now she is out of the race for President. Where are Senator Clinton’s women backers going? to Senator Obama? Senator McCain? and what issues are particularly important to women that the questions should be put to the candidates?

Because of the importance of the “women vote,” and because I don’t think we can really judge candidates from slick ads or attack ads but rather as we see them both get hard questions side by side at the same forum, we (ON THE RECORD) invited both candidates to a special Audience Show ON THE RECORD focusing on issues that might be particularly or uniquely important to women. I also hoped to have mostly women in the audience….and let them put the questions to the two candidates. Frankly I want to minimize role and let the audience / the voters speak to the candidates.

The good news? Senator McCain’s campaign said Senator McCain will do this.

The bad news? Senator Obama’s campaign declined.

Of course I would like to see both Senators do this Special Audience show with us at ON THE RECORD…but the truth is that if Senator Obama will not with us, I would like to see him do it with Senator McCain with someone! It is hugely important that we – the American voters – see these two candidates together answering questions so that we can compare and contrast their different ideas for the future of our country.

As an aside, I wish Senator Obama would re-consider. He would have the same opportunities during the show that Senator McCain will have. Likewise, both men would be treated with respect.

So now what? I am planning to move forward with an audience show – meaning audience questions – addressing issues that women think important to them with only Senator McCain. Now we just need to figure out scheduling….

Check out the past debate schedule this election cycle. Notice anything?

Not one, not one forum or debate to discuss issues of specific importance to women.

The schedule approved by Howard Dean had plenty of opportunities for African-American males to ask question of importance to them. There were many fora/debates in primarily African-American venues and some in Obama’s Chicago hometown. Not one debate however in New York or a Hillary friendly venue or audience. Certainly there were no fora/debates for women (no matter what the color of the woman – white, black, yellow, red, green).

The BOYcott of women’s issues continues with Obama’s latest refusal to discuss issues of importance to women. McCain has agreed to such a discussion. Where’s “Waffles” Obama?

This is a continuing Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi insult. This latest Obama/Dean/Brazile/Pelosi insult to the intelligence of voters and particulary Hillary Clinton supporters reminds us of: Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic Party, who says he was slow to pick up on charges of sexism because he is not a regular viewer of cable television….

Nancy Pelosi is also an insult to our intelligence. I can’t document what happened in the presidential campaign as I am too busy being Speaker of the House Nancy, was and is too busy to worry about sexism. Little wonder she is doing such a miserable job in the FISA supporting Democratic? congress.

The Guardian, across the wide expanse which is the Atlantic Ocena, was not too busy to catalog the misogeny and sexism of this election cycle.

We here at Big Pink were not too busy to document the misogeny and sexism of this election cycle. Marie Cocco was not too busy either. We quoted Marie Cocco in Voting for Barack Obama Part II:

I won’t miss reading another treatise by a man or woman, of the left or right, who says that sexism has had not even a teeny-weeny bit of influence on the course of the Democratic campaign. To hint that sexism might possibly have had a minimal role is to play that risible “gender card.”

Most of all, I will not miss the silence.

I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven’t publicly uttered a word of outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.

Would the silence prevail if Obama’s likeness were put on a tap-dancing doll that was sold at airports? Would the media figures who dole out precious face time to these politicians be such pals if they’d compared Obama with a character in a blaxploitation film? And how would crude references to Obama’s sex organs play?

We also wrote:

Women are the workers in the Democratic Party. Women are the ones who volunteer and make calls and answer mail and send out mail and organize the vans and do the work that keeps the Democratic? Party running. Yet not one debate was considered in forethought or afterthought to ask women what they thought and to ask women what they needed.

The vile Ralph Nader used to denigrate gay and women issues as “gonadal politics”. It appears the Democratic? Party has become a gonadal party – women only needed in the back of the bus, in the kitchen – working – but no place at the table.

Obama has been a lead gang-banger in the misogyny parade:

Meanwhile, Obama had to apologize for his “sweetie” crack. But this was not an isolated incident. Remember, this was the candidate who used phrases like “when the claws come out” and “when she’s feeling down periodically she launches attacks” in reference to his opponent. When language like this is part of the vocabulary of a candidate (one who is so exquisitely articulate), it is worth asking if there is something going on here.

The silence Marie Cocco spoke of surrounds us still.

The Obama insults to Women continue.

NObama.

NOvember.

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183 thoughts on “Barack Obama Vs. Hillary Clinton Supporters – The Obama Insults To Women Continue

  1. Yes, thanks for the discussion on this. The reference to HRC distancing herself from what is going on, is what I encountered at the State level. HRC would not want you to do this.

    What they fail to understand is, this is not an HRC issue, this is my issue, and I will not stand for it any longer. If this fight is to be won, it is by the 18 Million voters who’s vote was not hear, and who saw the slight, direct hits, and out right nasty comments that were made.

    We will not sit down, go to the back of the bus, and fold in.

  2. You all at Hillary is 44 do amazing work. I think Hillary secretly likes all the PUMA, JSND, activism going on. She just can’t say it publicly.

  3. Independent2008

    Thanks for sharing Greta’s email.

    It gives me a fresh riposte to use in responding to Bambi’s begging me to take a chance… to be behind his coronation curtain.

    Something like this: I am over 60, white, bitter and female. What in the world makes you think I would pass your vetting process? In addition, I am still examining your bona fides to become president.

    I worked for almost a year for Hillary Rodham Clinton: she has proved herself to 18 million voters…we know her bona fides.

    I’ll make you a deal, Barack. You go on “On the Record,” a very well moderated non-partisan program, as you have been graciously invited so to do, talk with the audience and John McCain about issues concerning more than half the country’s population (and 57% of declared, active Democrats,) the millions of women who are watching your every move and/or listening to every word you utter, and the millions who are going to decide you fate on November 4.

    If you face the challenge, you have everything to gain. If you don’t, you won’t lose everything, but you are going to lose a lot. Are you feeling lucky, confident, cocky, or scared.

    Show women SOMETHING besides arrogance, the opening of celestial heavens and crude hand-finger gestures.

    Then maybe I’ll try for the chance to become part of the inner circle for the 20 second thrill. Not.

  4. just get home from work, check the mail, and there on the cover of newsweek a close-up of the messiah with his head bowed in prayer titled “what he believes”.

    i’m gonna be sick.

  5. Take a look at this video. Not sure if it was posted here

    youtube.com/watch?v=VkAVJfZRIpw

    Don’t forget to add w w w h t t p

  6. Newsweek can kiss my party unity ass as well.

    Way to go Big Pink, you just keep hitting them outta the park.

    Proud to be a Big Pinker.

  7. did ya’ll hear how Hillary is on his list for VP, but Bill is a problem, yeah right! Bill’s a problem, Obambi is the problem, he doesn’t care about women, and that is because he is mostly of ARab descent!

  8. ROFL! Blogtalk Radio reporting that the latest O Talking point (excuse) for his campaign not speeding ahead has happened since O’s Campaign started hiring upper level Clinton Campaign Staff!

    HA! Now he claims he is LOSING because of HRC! This guy is SUCH A BABY.

    Also, they (Blogtalk) SPECULATES that she will be REQUIRED to come out and denounce PUMA JSND efforts. So….don’t freak if it happens.

  9. * * PLEASE POST THIS ON OTHER BLOGS * *

    Nancy Pelosi Letter Writing Campaign!

    Please help to ensure that Hillary’s name is on the ballot at the Denver convention.

    See the letter at:

    http://www.NotFallingInLine.org

    NFIL
    NOT FALLING IN LINE behind failed undemocratic Democratic Party leaders and their selectee.

  10. Norma

    what else is new? we expected BHO would blame everything on Hillary LOL!!

    BHO is such a whiner! 😥

    Nobama NOvember!

  11. Norma: Are you serious? Now, HRC is responsible for his campaign slowing down??

    This campaign is ridiculous. 5 year olds might do a better job, and take more responsibility than the BO campaign. WHINER!! PAMPERS is a good name. He just needs a pacifier to complete the picture.

  12. He just needs a pacifier to complete the picture.

    maybe I can talk to FreedomFairy over at therealbarackobama (formerly Rezkowatch)

  13. carbynew Says:

    July 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
    Obambi’s leadership skills = Throw people under the bus.

    And blame other people.

  14. Birdgal

    Pampers, pacifier
    Too funny, i agree. I would love to see a picture of him with a pacifier and pampers on

  15. If Hillary is slowing his campaign down, why ask her to campaign with him.

    I live in Cleveland, Oh. O’s campaign office has opened up. I should go in and get some signs and a lot of stickers and throw them in the trash

  16. I just have to share this. I just spoke on the phone with a young lady who was trying to sell me a special deal on Super 8, because I had stated in one on my way to support Hillary in Dec. She got so excited when I told her that, and said that she had cried the day she suspended her campaign. I told her we still might have a chance in Denver. She said she was with us.

    There are a lot of regular people out there that feel the same as we do, like 18 million of them (Minus a few that just had to fold in).

    We have enough of an Army to do what we want.

  17. “”If you listen you can hear the voices of women who withstood jeers and threats to make themselves heard in a political world once reserved primarily for men.”

    Sept 3, 1998

    Hillary Clinton in Belfast.

    news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/northern_ireland/latest_news/163601.stm

    TAKE THAT Mr. Obama, you spineless excuse of a man

  18. Norma: That is such a touching story. Hillary mentioned the incident in her speeches after that.

    Neeta: ROFL! Good one. When I see a car with an Obama bumper sticker on it, I fight the urge to ram the car. I was in Berkeley last week, and had to restrain myself several times.

    I got the Pampers idea from bitterpoliticz. They used to have a graphic with BO in Pampers. I added a pacifer.

  19. Obama is not campaigning on CHANGE.He is using fear and race as they have never before been used in a presidential race. All of this has been a lng time in planning. This is not an election.It is a revolution,backed by threats of riots,mayhem,destruction and bloodshed if neccesary.A great country is being taken over by black and white thugs and a shadow candidate with not an ounce of experience or understanding of world problems that he will only intensify and create even more hate in the world.SD’s are frozen in their tracks and fear the wrath of angry black supportes of Obama if the drop their early and foolish decision to listen to the DNC and steal the election from Hillary.Slashed tires,damaged cars,graffiti damage,broken windows and drive-by shootings,as outlined in RECREATE68.org.Obama has a well trained cult to carry out this scenario and he will not leave his prints on it. Flip or Flop,”THE SHADOW KNOWS”

    By ABM90 Support Hillary and this will pass.

  20. Norma Desmond

    She held her head high then, and did what she had to do, and she will now.

    However, it is us to us to be the dissent. She needs to watch at this point. The story on the elderly women voting for Hillary from her death bed really got to me. What I have done, pales in comparison.

  21. It seems that BO’s political campaign is entirely for the aggrandizement and profit of B and Michele. There seem to be no other aims or policies and if there are, they are expendable.

    The only lining I see in this cloud is thanking Allah that Rudy Giuliani isn’t the R nominee.

  22. Me too MNF….what a grand desire. And one she achieved.
    ABM….to that point, FOX just reported that Governor Blagojevich of Illinois says that crime in Chicago is out of control, and want the National Guard in.

    Guess that shouldn’t surprise us.

    Now, I wonder how all those DNC staffers from Georgetown feel about working there…..

  23. ABM90

    They can threaten all they want. What goes around come around. These are just scare tactics. It can go the opposite. I am sick and tired of the idiots trying to scare people into voting for O. It is not going to work. They are not the only ones who have guns. If they want to be stupid. Then let them try it.

  24. Birdgal…that is hard to say. I imagine NG would be a last resort if there is a lot of trouble. It takes a governor’s activation to get them in. I do know that there is already TONS of DHS there and FBI and of course SS for the protection of the candidates and other dignitaries (ExPrez, etc) and local law enforcement…

    but let’s hope the National Guard will not be required.

  25. Norma: Let’s hope not.

    Neeta: I don’t know, but Hillary will be in the SF Bay area around the end of the month for a fundraiser. So, it would appear, that they are still working on it.

  26. (Blogtalk) SPECULATES that she will be REQUIRED to come out and denounce PUMA JSND efforts. So….don’t freak if it happens.
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    If we reach the point where bambi is losing then this may happen. If it does then this would be my response.

    1) first, we understand the position Hillary is in and why she is saying this. We do not believe statements made under duress.

    2) second, this proves the dnc is taking us seriously. They now know we cannot be dismissed as sore losers. We are serious adversaries.

    3) third, this is hardly surprising. Hillary crossed the rublicon on this when she decided to stay in the party rather than go independent. We crossed the rubicon when we decided to reject her request for unity and remain free thinkers.

    4) fourth, we know where her heart is. She told us as much in her suspension speech. She said she will go on fighting for the issues, and she asked us to do so as well. We are.

    5) fifth, we are in this fight for the long term. It does not depend on the results of a single election. Where as here our party wanders seriously off course we cannot fall in line.

    6) sixth, we are different from the forces surrounding the presumptive nominee. We not about the cult of personality. We are about principals and the future of democracy.

  27. h t t p : / / alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do;jsessionid=7356CB638B521A089C9825047E55A7B8?diaryId=262

    John Lewis needs no introduction. He is one of the Big Six of the civil rights movement. He led the march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, and got a fractured skull for his pains. And he was back in the next march. In the front. John doesn’t scare easily.
    John Lewis endorsed Hillary for president back in February, saying he did so because she was the best candidate, and stood up to enormous pressure. When he announced that he would vote for Obama in deference to his constituency’s wishes, he never said he was doing it because Obama was the better candidate.

    But that wasn’t good enough for the Obama crowd. A challenger came forward, saying John Lewis was “out of touch”. Time to move over, old man. I diaried about this challenger, Markel Hutchins, and his bad check charges for a check he wrote to get his Lexus emblems gold plated. New blood indeed 😉

    And Obama took a cheap shot at John Lewis just a week ago, remarking on his absence at an Obama appearance near Atlanta. John didn’t show up to kiss the ring, and Obama was petty enough to notice AND remark on it. Obama was doing his best to send the message out- John Lewis isn’t on the team, folks.

    So how did the primary turn out tonight? Heh.

    campskunk :: John Lewis Stands Tall – Obama-Inspired Primary Challenger Fades
    With 43% of precincts reporting….
    John Lewis 12,919 68.6%
    Markel Hutchins 3,164 16.8%
    “Able” Mable Thomas 2,752 14.6%

    Well, so much for the Obama magic, and hope and change. The voters of the Fifth Congressional District voted for the man who actually marched across that bridge 40 some years ago, not one of these young guys who talked about it.

    Us old folks knew better than to underestimate John Lewis, or to denigrate his contribution to the civil rights movement. These young folks? Well, they’re learning 😉

  28. kostner: Thank you for posting that. I was wondering, how that race would turn out. Good for John Lewis.

  29. Wbboei…XOXOXOX

    and Kostner, good for Atlanta. They haven’t been bullied into anything in my home town since reconstruction

  30. wbboie,

    This is not about Hillary. We love her, but we’re not bots, we use our brains. We understand the situation she’s in, but frankly to defeat bambi & his chicago machine is more important than listening to what Hillary has to say.

  31. If you look at this as an economist would we have shared goals but different incentives and constraints than Hillary in the short term. She has an incentive to cooperate with the party and we do not. We operate under no constaints so long as we are true to the founding principals of the constitution.

    For the immediate term: if we can get an open convention with no strings, and her name on the ballot with now strings then let the chips fall where they may.

    As Judge Learned Hand wrote: “we cannot command success. No we will do more–we will deserve it.”

  32. Bambi’s accomplice Howard Dean is being tossed aside. Amusing. Poor Howard.
    h t t p : / / marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/keeping_the_dnc_chairman_busy.php

    There’s apparently some grumbling from Hill Democrats about their lack of input into Obama’s Democratic victory strategy — such is par for the course at this quadrennial U.S. Open we call a presidential race.

    But the Obama campaign has found a smart way to keep the party’s reigning elder statesman, Howard Dean, busy: they’re sending him on a cross-country voter registration tour. He’ll travel in style on a 45 foot long biodisel bus flagged in red, white and blue. The tour kicks off in Crawford, TX on Thursday, heads to Austin where Dean will say hi to peeps at the Netroots Nation convention, then to New Orleans, Shreveport and Baton Rouge — note — Democrats need to pick up their efforts in New Orleans if they want to be competitive in the state because so many African Americans moved away — and then will wind through Mississippi before the good governor gets a break

  33. Ya know, the Dems sure are blowing through the cash for the party who seems to be having a difficult time and whining about donations. Luxury buses on tour, Invesco, three-bean-tri-colored-no-fried-menu.

    Soros deep pockets?

  34. This is not about Hillary. We love her, but we’re not bots, we use our brains. We understand the situation she’s in, but frankly to defeat bambi & his chicago machine is more important than listening to what Hillary has to say
    ———————————————-
    Yup. That is what I was alluding to in points 5 and 6 but you put a finer point on it which is good. And, it has the added advantage of being true. We have to become as good as she was on the campaign trail and shut out what is negative and recognize that the goal here is bigger than any politican and if the people on the other side would be with us if they had any common sense. I will spare everyone another round of Houseman.

  35. What the hell is Obama’s ‘civilian national security force ‘ stuff, this sounds truly scary.
    h t t p : / / worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69784

  36. Isn’t it amazing how this election has changed our viewing habits? I may be an extreme case, but I no longer watch tv, or read the New York Times. I get most of my news from this site and am oblivious to the rest of the world not by accident but by design. I do not think I am that eccentric in that respect. And if that is so, it could very well spell the end of big media. When the Daily Worker in Red China is willing recognize the vile misogeny of out media and our media is not you just know it is time to move on.

  37. Kostner, this guy is outta control. I guess he already has the uniforms dran up. I mean, this guy is NUTS! REALLY.

  38. wwobei: I’m the same way. No more news, except for a few blog sites. A co-worker, who does not visit the blogs, no longer watches the news, because of the misogyny and extreme bias. He used to watch the news every night, but no longer.

  39. wbboei ,

    True, i don’t watch any news and I used to be a cnn/msnbc addict. I did this on purpose, but I am very happy the way it goes. I can honestly say I didn’t miss those talk heads one bit.

  40. wbboei,

    I also don’t read nyt/washington post etc. If there’s another important articles, I know them from a few blogs.

    I do read online WSJ as I work in finance area and am always a subscriber.

  41. btw, if you go to freerepublic, you’ll see lots of announcements of dying msm media these days. The cutbacks, the layoffs are astonishing. Whenever the news is out with another round of cutback in a newspaper, those freepers will immediately jump up and down.
    I saw A LOT including NYT, Washington Post, LA Times etc for the past few weeks.

  42. The lefties really really really got snookered by Bambi. He just took then for the ride of their life. SUCKKKKKKKKKKERS. How dare Morris call this flipfopping. It is merely an adjustment in position, and we would have known that if we had been listening to what he says and reading his mind and hanging on his every word like you are supposed to do in the presence of a demi-god

    Q: this is a pretty good list of flip flops. Perhaps it should be sent to puma for consideration for flyer material.
    ———————————————-

    Obama Flip-Flops Leave the Race Tied

    Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:36 PM

    By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann Article Font Size

    After almost six weeks of a constant Obama lead, generally in the five to seven-point range, Scott Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll records two consecutive days of a tie race (July 12-13) and a one-point Obama lead on July 14. What happened to the Democrat’s lead?

    Part of the slippage is Obama’s fault and part is McCain’s gain.

    Obama has carried flip-flopping to new heights. In the space of a month and a half, this candidate — who we don’t really yet know very well — reversed or sharply modified his positions on at least nine key issues:

    After vowing to eschew private fundraising and take public financing, he has now refused public money.

    Once he threatened to filibuster a bill to protect telephone companies from liability for their cooperation with national security wiretaps; now he has voted for the legislation.

    Turning his back on a lifetime of support for gun control, he now recognizes a Second Amendment right to bear arms in the wake of the Supreme Court decision.

    Formerly, he told the Israeli lobby that he favored an undivided Jerusalem. Now he says he didn’t mean it.

    From a 100 percent pro-choice position, he now has migrated to expressing doubts about allowing partial-birth abortions.

    For the first time, he now speaks highly of using church-based institutions to deliver public services to the poor.

    Having based his entire campaign on withdrawal from Iraq, he now pledges to consult with the military first.

    During the primary, he backed merit pay for teachers — but before the union a few weeks ago, he opposed it.

    After specifically saying in the primaries that he disagreed with Sen. Hillary Clinton’s proposal to impose Social Security taxes on income over $200,000 and wanted to tax all income, he has now adopted the Clinton position.

    Obama’s breathtaking flips and flops are materially different from McCain’s. While McCain had opposed offshore oil drilling and now supports it, the facts have obviously changed. Obama’s shifts have nothing to do with altered circumstances, just a change in the political calendar.

    As a candidate who was nominated to be a different kind of politician, Obama has set the bar pretty high. And, with his flipping and flopping, he is falling short, to the disillusionment of his more naïve supporters. One wag even called him the “black Bill Clinton,” a turnaround of the “first black president” moniker that had been pinned on Bill.

    Meanwhile, McCain and the Republicans have finally found an issue, oil drilling, exposing how the Democrats oppose drilling virtually anywhere that there might be recoverable oil. Not in Alaska. Not offshore. Not in shale deposits in the West.

    The Democratic claim that we “cannot drill our way out of the crisis in gas prices” begs the question of whether, had we drilled five years ago, we would be a lot less dependent on foreign market fluctuations.

    The truth is that the Democrats put the need to mitigate climate change ahead of the imperative of holding down gasoline prices at the pump. If there was ever a fault line between elitist and populist approaches to a problem, this is it. In fact, liberals basically don’t see much wrong with $5 gas. Many have been urging a tax to achieve precisely this level, just like Europe has done for decades.

    Obama said that he was unhappy that there was not a period of “gradual adjustment” to the high prices, but seems to shed few tears over the current levels. After all, if your imperative is climate change, a high gas price is worth 10 times a ratified Kyoto treaty in bringing about change.

    Republicans can drive a truck through the gap between this elite opinion and the need for ordinary people to afford the journey to work in the morning. And, with a 16-state media buy, the Republican Party and the McCain campaign are doing precisely that.

    If Obama softens his aversion to drilling, it may be the final straw for some of his liberal supporters. Where would they go?

    Nader is still a possibility. But McCain can attract liberal votes. He doesn’t need to bleed Obama only from the right. His own stands against drilling in Alaska and torture of terror suspects and for immigration reform make him suspect on the right, but quite acceptable to the left. If moderate liberals are disgusted by Obama’s obvious attempts at chicanery and repositioning, they might just cross the aisle.

  43. A humor break..the latest JibJab animation has been released..

    sendables.jibjab.com/

    LOL, Obama riding a pony with rainbows and bambi like creatures all around…

  44. Has Waffles Obama commented on this?:

    http://www.nbc5.com/news/16901117/detail.html

    As Governor Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday signed a new law that will put in place tougher penalties for selling guns to minors, he also announced he’s got a new idea to help combat the violence that Chicago is experience: he’s talking to the Illinois State Police and the National Guard to see if they could help.

    “Violent crime in the city of Chicago is out of control,” Blagojevich said at the bill signing ceremony. “I’m offering resources of the state to the city to work in a constructive way with Mayor Daley to do everything we can possibly do to help stop this violence,” said the governor.

    The summer of 2008 will be remembered as especially violent. Blagojevich said there’s been a child shot nearly every day since June 26. Bringing in state troopers — even National Guard helicopters to high-crime areas — is still very much in the planning stages.

    “It might be able to free up some resources that the Chicago police uses for capital needs, to be able, to maybe to, hire more police officers, or possibly ask some to come out of retirement, to put them into these violent zones, hot zones, where, clearly, I think, part of the challenge is that gangbangers outnumber police officers five to one,” Blagojevich said

  45. Is it just me or is this campaign between McCain and Obama one of the most boring presidential races of our lifetimes? Obama is the most cautious, wimpiest, whiniest, waffling nominee I’ve ever seen. He never introduces a single bold new idea. He never deviates from his script. He has zero sense of humor and his online army and campaign handlers go ballistic if anyone criticizes him.

    Here we are, at a pivotal point in the nation’s history, and what do we get? Bambi-backer John Kerry, pontificating about Orrin Hatch should be allowed to sing a song for Ted Kennedy at the convention. Lord help us all.

  46. Blagojevich should not be shocked by the rising crime rate in08.It is happening in almost all inner cities,wether they cook the books or not.I fear that Obana has to share some of the blame along with his weak kneed DNC supporters.They love the guy and like the fact that they can now brush off the dirt of their racism and maintain the cradle to grave jobs as our elected officials.Well you two faced money sponges are about to get jolted by the greatest assault on our lives and stability in our country’s history.We are broke,in debt,tired,insecure,frightened,angry and ready to kick some butts.All of this was brought on by one person and his lust for power and agroup of cult followers that blindly listen to his flipping and flopping and beleive he is the answer to all of their problems and would feel the same if Keyes,Sharpton,Jackson,and yes even OJ were running. Remember,recreate68.com. It could happen again..FDR was right then when he uttered the words of wisdom “We have nothing to fear but fear itself “but these are different times and the characters have changed.Fear of all bad things that are taking place in our lives today will determine the future of our great country.Neither Obama or McCain have the answers and our congress are obsessed with greed and power.What a lousy combination of would be problem solvers.
    Now let us just cut out all rhetoric,lies and deception an place Hillary in the race with all the support we can muster.There is no other person that is as brilliant and ready to take the reigns to guide this country back to its once amazing standing in this world. BHO the shadow candidate must not rob us of our futures .

    By ABM 90 Full of new hope and energy for our HILLARY

  47. Is it just me or is this campaign between McCain and Obama one of the most boring presidential races of our lifetimes? Obama is the most cautious, wimpiest, whiniest, waffling nominee I’ve ever seen. He never introduces a single bold new idea. He never deviates from his script. He has zero sense of humor and his online army and campaign handlers go ballistic if anyone criticizes him.
    ———————————————-
    Berkley: they are boring as hell. The problem with bambi is he does not speak for the american people he speaks for wall street. Keep cool wiht Cal (as in calvin coolidige) becomes keep cool with bambi–and follow the hyped but going nowhere path of deval patrick. He wont meet with them, if they disagree he says get over it and when he says anything he speaks down to him.

    And fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

  48. Berkley. I went back and read your posting above a second time and really like it.

    When that elitist pig Kerry proposes that they sing an orrin hatch best seller at the convention to celebrate bi-partisanship, their take over of the party and their triumph over the will of the people, while things go to hell, you know you are dealing with people who have no sense to the political moment. That they could get others who have a vital interest in our future to not see what is going on is the remarkable thing. Watch them fuck it up. In this uncertain world that is the one thing you can count on.

  49. Finally, in the entire history of the republic never has there been a more tone deaf politican than john kerrey. Never that is until now.

  50. ABM 90: Now let us just cut out all rhetoric,lies and deception an place Hillary in the race with all the support we can muster.There is no other person that is as brilliant and ready to take the reigns to guide this country back to its once amazing standing in this world. BHO the shadow candidate must not rob us of our futures,
    ———————————————–
    That is very good ABM 90.

  51. Ex-Obama aide cashing in on ‘change’

    For people close to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), change could equal cash for them — on K Street.

    A former campaign and legislative aide to the Democratic presidential candidate is seeking government affairs clients in Washington by reminding potential prospects:

    “Should ‘CHANGE’ occur in November as polls indicate, we should see a lot of people from Illinois moving to Washington, D.C., and taking key spots in an Obama administration. Now is the time to anticipate these changes.”

    The pitch by Dan Shomon, who was political director of Obama’s successful 2004 campaign for the Senate, is part of a growing effort by some supporters and associates of the senator to profit from his political success — and the possibility that he will be president of the United States a scant six months from now.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11820.html

  52. Anyone know where i would look for bus info about groups going to denver i would very much like to attend but am working two jobs at the moment and have not had the time to explore the options. i am in pittsburgh.

  53. wbboei, your a completely right! This is the most boring race of all time. The news media is pampering both candidates, they are both boring. Fox that is usually good is boring. There is nothing exciting anymore since Hillary left the race. Hannity keeps mentioning her name, but he seems to be the only one. I don’t think they will ever play the whitey tape because the media doesn’t care which one wins as long as its not Hillary. Both have been bought and paid for by Soros.

  54. meiyingsu: did you notice the fox interview with heidi lee on the denver group? Two reactions:

    1) first, she is impressive

    2) second the fox moderator is reaalllll dump! (Ed McMann: “how dumb?” Johnny Carson: “dumb enough to be related to Politico/MSNBC dweeb chuck todd the master of small matters!” Hysterical laughter (canned), thunderous applause, music rises from the orchestra pit, a star is borne, fade to black.)

  55. Thanks to S, birdgal, alcina, norma, admin, paula and eveyone from yesterday. One more milestone, the 6-month. Positive results then correlate with 100% success). 😀

    (sorry to interject personal stuff but i just couldn’t help myself).

    Back to His Snobbiness: It’s reported he raised 52 mill in June.

    Anyone else have a hard time believing that?

  56. I think they cooked the books, so it would not look so bad. They can be creative like that.

  57. Norma Desmond Says:

    July 16th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
    ———————————————-
    very poignant story norma. Back to the old question if not hillary then whom and if not now then when. It may never happen but never is a long time. If it does happen within the lifetime of some of the bloggers here, it will surely not happen during the lifespan of those who lived before womens suffrage was law. For them Denver is their last best chance. Heidi arguing with that chuck todd wannabe was like Hillary arguing with that emptysuit barack. Smart woman dumb man dynamic.

  58. I didn’t read the article, but when I opened my Yahoo mail this a.m., there was a headline saying that BO had raised 52 million in June. Why did people think, it was so much lower?

  59. # NewMexicoFan Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    I think they cooked the books, so it would not look so bad. They can be creative like that.
    **********

    maybe it just takes that long for foreigners over seas to get their small donationsunreported and added up together huge donations to buy control of our country

  60. Also, on Hillbuzz, MO is not going on the European Magical Mystery Tour. Anyone else hear about that?

  61. WASHINGTON (AP) – Democrat Barack Obama’s presidential campaign says it raised $52 million last month.

    The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee ended the month of June with a combined total of nearly $72 million in the bank.

    Last week the campaign of Republican John McCain reported raising more than $22 million in June, which was his best month of the year.

    Together, the McCain campaign and the Republican National Committee began July with about $95 million in the bank.

    ***********
    I find this hard to believe expecially since Hill’s big donars sat on their wallets and his goons are too and i knnow puma’s didn’t send him a dime nor the DNC…….a big Hmmmmmmmmm???? Soro’s???

  62. When I look at Obama and that silly grin on his face as he parades head held high and enjoys his illusions of royalty,I recall my army recruit training and the old regular Army M/Sgt that demanded respect and our undivided attention.His favorite command to us was quote ( SOLDIER! WIPE THAT SH– EATEN GRIN OFF YOUR FACE ” and our knees wobbled. Lately I have noticed a marked change in the Obama facial expressions.His smiles and grins are shorter and fewer.and in between there are shades of darkness and uncertainty.The Shadow Candidate is worried and aware that Hillary is about to stop his dream of Royalty and REZKO,WRIGHT and BLAGOVICH cannot put the money where his mouth is.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    By ABM90

  63. man is that blog radio cool! comes even with a live chat during the air time, as of right now there is 10 min left of the show with will borrow (puma founder)

  64. Bill Clinton Announcing Next Fight In Big Speech–MALARIA

    I THINK SOMETIME TODAY –DOES ANYONE KNOW –i love listening to every word of bill clinton –he is the smartest president in recent 40-5- yrs …..

  65. ACTION ALERT: Defend Ricki Lieberman

    Today, Huffington Post’s Seth Walls has made a “direct hit” on Ricki Lieberman, who you all met here yesterday in her first post, “Electability.”

    JustSayNoDeal.com is asking all of us to go to the article and write positive comments about Ricki.

    Here are two more musts you’ll want to know about Ricki, besides her article, “Electability,” posted here yesteday:

    Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal published a very positive article about Ricki’s efforts: “McCain Surrogate Fiorina Meets With Clinton Supporters”
    Sign up to receive Ricki’s daily “Electability Watch” by sending an e-mail to rrlieberma@gmail.com. Ricki is associated with the Together4US group.
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/17/action-alert-defend-ricki-lieberman/#comment-468585

  66. Admin

    Thought you’d like to know that email to Ricki @gmail is being bounced back.

    Saw a comment on NoQuarter this am that she got pounded pretty hard the last 30 hours or so and laid it out in her daily email this morning. I haven’t gotten my first one yet, so don’t know what she said.

    Do you get it? Would you mind reprinting it here? Is that allowed?

  67. Does anyone know why an anti clinton rag like huffpo would give coverage to bills malaria project. This curries favor with no one and it does not undo the damage done to his reputation that they did their level best to promote. There is no stategy here that I can see. Just the same kind of unfocused outspoken stupidity we have seen from Arianana for hte past thirty years. She is someone who is not worth listening to.

  68. Also heard on NQR this am that Rasmussen, first to stop polling Hill’s numbers, has started polling her again, as of yesterday.

    Hmmmm.

  69. djia

    And if you missed something you can tap that blue bar on the upper right (I did by accident…thought I was raising the volumn) and got to hear the Valarie plame/Joe wilson interview w/ Larry Johnson.

  70. Emjay: I smell a rat on this one. Since she has not been campaigning for herself and thrown her support to him, her numbers now will reflect those facts. Only a fool would be fooled. If this is true someone needs to call the game on this before it gets started.

  71. NMF: i believe you can join the site (radio blog) and then can chat, the NQ show posted a phone number on the site for people to call in

    Emjay: that is a big Hmmmmm?

    Wbboei: I have been noticing that huffpo has been also publishing a bit harsher headline on BHO as of late as well its teeny tiny in size of change but i noticed it also noticed alot of Neg. headlines on BHO on many blogs and MSM sites as well. HOPEY CHANGEY!!

  72. Bill is a great humanitarian and we could have had the most competent leadership in Washington ever had the DNC/BO not stolen our votes.

  73. Kostner

    Thanks fo the report on Mr. John Lewis. I remember the Selma stuff, and I happy that we are showing such respect for someone with the guts and courage of yesterday, who still has it today. I can only hope that in my life time, for the issues I feel strongly about, that I have his guts and courage. Congratulations Mr. John Lewis.

  74. NewMexicoFan

    I bet Hillary is trying to get him to stop- for now.

    Remember, the only thing that org polls well with ant kind of regularity is the 3 day rolling preference numbers.

  75. Let us once and for all drive a silver spike through that cretan argument we hear repeated by the bots that the dems represent hillarys issues therefore we should support bambi. Bambi cannot hold a credible position for a nano second he gets pushback and flips so why does anyone believe he will deliver. Their argument is pure sophistry.

  76. Emjay: a new poll now is irrelevant. The only poll that counts is the one that existed just before she suspended her campaign. That is where it will pick up if she is the nominee. She can deliver the presidnecy and the congress, and that is what should matter to superdelegates.

  77. Henry

    Either Puma or the Denver Group were trying to raise money to provide subsidized bus travel.

    I have to go take care of customers or I would try to google bus to denver convention, and go from there.

    Can ya’ll tell I’m reading up to catch up?

    Don’t have an expensive vodka headache this am, WBBoei, but do have a doozy of a cheap one.

  78. Dont worry emjay. When it comes to vodka I am a cheap date. When the good stuff runs out its any port in the storm. I drank the whole bottle the other night. Gotta cut back.

  79. WASHINGTON (AP) – Democrat Barack Obama’s presidential campaign says it raised $52 million last month
    ——————————————–
    Half what he predicted. Quarter of what he will probably spend. Now lets find out who gave. Was it a bunch of venture capitalists bankers and lawyers or was it ordinary people–other than move on types. I think we know but lets check it out anyway. That would be a good project for an enterprising journalist.

  80. The ONLY reason Huff post would be doing some pro-clinton messages would be to shore up clinton supporters.

    I do NOT TRUST them at all!

  81. Just to put a finer point on it Rassmussen stopped polling her while she was still campaigning for fear she would upstage Bambi and now he wants to start polling her when she has stopped campaigning and endorsed her opponent to show supers she is not viable. The guy does not belong in the business. There is a level of corruption that no industry should tolerate, and Rassmussen is a textbook example.

  82. Hey guys and gals…

    Just passing through, but

    HENRY (xoxox)

    go to http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com and REGISTER for a need to travel to Denver (about 1/2 way down the page). There are NO guarantees, but we are working with Darragh at PumaPac as well as trying to match heads with needs and haves.

    So, at least if you are REGISTERED, that will be one less thing to do, but also, keep looking! We are HOPING for a few “angel donors” with Rise Hillary Rise and we will see where that goes. We are also getting NUMBERS together (head count) so if we have people in your area going and buses don;t come through, we will work on ride shares.

    Hope this helps

  83. And in case you missed it, B Merry sent this to me today

    It’s just not possible to keep up with the Obama graphics department.

    hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-obama-running-to-be-president-of.html

  84. It looks like Congress is an old dog that doesn’t want to learn new tricks

    Houston Congressman John Culberson’s use of the social networking site Twitter.com to update constituents has angered house democrats.
    By KTRH’s Scott Crowder
    Thursday, July 17, 2008

    Republican Culberson has been using his Blackberry to update his Twitter account to tell his district what’s happening with bills and issues in Washington, DC. But democrats are trying to stop him, claiming it’s a violation of the rules. “The deepest, darkest hole in Washington is the house floor, where Nancy Pelosi runs the place like the Supreme Soviet and there’s very little debate, very few amendments, very little time to review bills.”

    Congressman Culberson says he’s going to keep doing it. High Tech Texan Michael Garfield says what the congressman is doing is great. “I don’t think Congress has really taken a look at how to correctly and uniquely use interactive communication tools like this yet.”

    http://www.ktrh.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=&article=3968012
    *****************************************************
    After what happened with Hillary Clinton this primary, I’m more incline to be more independent and open to both sides and call it like it is.

    Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid has been HORRIBLE Leaders and I have major doubts that the only true voice comes from the Democratic? Taliban Party. I’m a dem but more like Truth, verify and confirm type now.

  85. ELECTABILITY!

    Thanks to all of you for your interest in the ELECTABILITY WATCH and our work promoting Senator Clinton as the electable candidate who can bring Democrats back to the White House. Selecting the electable candidate is the only job of the Super Delegates in Denver, and we are communicating that to them each week with a thoughtful person-to-person update. This takes about 15 minutes a week.

    Please join us at rrlieberma@gmail.com.

    BTW – I was quite startled by the intensity and ferocity of the phone and email response to the Huff article as well as the release of my address and phone number. This is not the democracy I believe in. The stream of bile, anti-semitism, crude and vulgar language, and the personal attacks were unsettling. However, those of us who believe that Hillary is the best qualified to be President have been validated by her 18 million+ primary votes, her lead in the polls against McCain, and her strong showing in the blue and swing states Democrats need for the Electoral College.

    Her strength on and commitment to issues and core values of the Democratic Party is also compelling.

    If we want a Democrat back in the White House, Hillary is the electable one. SDs, please pay attention!!!

  86. I just read that His Snobbiness is receiving FULL press coverage on his overseas trip with Couric, Williams and Gibson each providing round-the-clock reporting.
    No one in BM even blinked when McCain went overseas.

    Isn’t there something ILLEGAL about this skewed coverage now hat the two apparent nominees have been selected? Isn’t there a different and more accountable standard for national elections?

    The coronation continues. 👿

    it different from the are

  87. I’m glad they are going to cover Obama because the more exposure this guy get the more mistakes he makes. Also, this is a wasted trip for the democrats…while McCain has been expanding his base, Obama has been ignoring his.

    One thing about Americans, they are fair people and the more the MSM treat King Obama as the chosen one already. The deeper his slide…even GWB wasn’t this stupid.

  88. Berkeley Vox Says:

    July 17th, 2008 at 3:49 am
    Is it just me or is this campaign between McCain and Obama one of the most boring presidential races of our lifetimes? Obama is the most cautious, wimpiest, whiniest, waffling nominee I’ve ever seen. He never introduces a single bold new idea. He never deviates from his script. He has zero sense of humor and his online army and campaign handlers go ballistic if anyone criticizes him.

    Here we are, at a pivotal point in the nation’s history, and what do we get? Bambi-backer John Kerry, pontificating about Orrin Hatch should be allowed to sing a song for Ted Kennedy at the convention. Lord help us all.

    ********************************

    Berkeley Vox…you got it right…this is the most boring presidential race or just as boring as Kerry’s race…

    Do we need Hillary’s energy, spark, smarts and smile, or what? (btw…screw that MSNBC and their Hill’s hairdo analysis…more sexism and marginalization from them)

    Meiyingsu — great ad from ‘the denver group’ – thanks for posting it…I have forwarded it to our friends…the other half of the Democratic party….

  89. Here’s a link about Bill’s malaria project:

    clintonfoundation.org/news/news-media/former-president-clinton-announces-new-agreements-to-lower-prices-and-ensure-new-supply-of-malaria-drugs

    Also, I agree completely that this race is super-boring without Hillary.

  90. Here is McCain addressing the NAACP and fighting for the black vote. I give him much respect going there and NOT talking down to his audience…something Obama seem uncapable of not doing.

    I think McCain is on point with virtual classrooms and going there with interesting solutions and budget that he can commit to and still be true to his conservative/moderate leaning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCz4e8Z_3o&eurl=http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&client=news&ie=UTF-8&q=ed%20oreilly&sa=N&tab=bn

  91. I guess, I won’t be watching the news, anytime soon.

    Per Hillbuzz, MO won’t be going on the trip.

    Also, I have to agree, the race is very boring without Hillary. I miss her spark and brilliance. 🙁

  92. What is Hillary doing and why has she not been treated better by the BO camp after the great unity speech she gave in NH….she must be offered the VP . The article on Dyle-Solis on Drudge and the photo made me want to vomit.

  93. I just read the AP story. Actually, it didn’t really bother me. Given how poorly she did running Hillary’s campaign, I don’t what she does.

  94. Why would you want Hillary to be VP?

    VP is a dead end job and I don’t see any benefits for Hillary Clinton? It’s either President or Senator as those have power. VP is only powerful if the president gives it or if something happens to the President.

  95. the Patti Solis Doyle thing basically says she emailed Hillary because they kept trading calls via phone (yeah, right!) and that Doyle wanted Hillary’s blessing to move to BO camp and Hillary allegedly said, you’ll do a good job.

    I believe none of this.

    I bet Hillary knows there was a mole in her campaign, and that mole was Patti…

  96. Carby,

    ‘I’m glad they are going to cover Obama because the more exposure this guy get the more mistakes he makes.”

    Gotta admit that was my first thought, too. But when he does screw up it will no doubt be scrubbed from the tape and we’ll never hear about it and if we do it will be downplayed and relegated to the last page of the classified section.

    BTW, anyone know which countries he’s going to besides Germany and iraq??

  97. basil that is exactly what i had heard on the news last night about BHO going to germany and these high profile reporters going with him that he would make gaffes and it would be a much bigger deal as it will be covered big time by the big J’s 😀

    I say let him go! i say give him 24/7 news coverage! this could be the best thing to happen to us PUMA’s and Big Pinkers! 👿

  98. carbynew Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Why would you want Hillary to be VP?

    VP is a dead end job and I don’t see any benefits for Hillary Clinton? It’s either President or Senator as those have power. VP is only powerful if the president gives it or if something happens to the President.
    =============================

    Exactly right. Some Hillary supporters say “I want to vote for her even if it’s just VP” and some assume that VP is a stop up from Senate and a step toward being Pres.

    But for HIllary it would be a step down, and as you say a dead end. It would take her away from her own career that has real power. By the end of Obama’s terms she would be 68 and someone else would have her Senate seat. Obama would certainly not endorse her to be President following him!

    The big reason for us PUMAs is that an Obama/Clinton ticket might get Obama elected, and then HIllary or some other REAL Democrat couldn’t run for Pres in 2012!

    Pls sign the petitions AGAINST Hillary as VP at
    h t t p : / / http://www.pumaparty.com/nohillaryvp

  99. via newsmax……..WTF??

    Clinton Says He’s Ready to Campaign for Obama

    Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:59 PM

    Article Font Size

    NEW YORK — Former President Clinton said Thursday he is eager to campaign for Barack Obama whenever the Democrat needs him, but has not given any thought to whether he wants to speak at the party convention in Denver.

    “I told him that whenever he wanted me to do it, I was ready, and so it’s basically on their timetable,” Clinton said. “He’s got a lot of things to do between now and the convention, of which this is simply one, so I’ll do whatever I’m asked to do, whenever I can do it.”

    Relations between Clinton and Obama have only just began to thaw since Obama defeated the former president’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in the bruising Democratic primary that ended last month. Throughout that bare-knuckle race, Bill Clinton had portrayed Obama as too inexperienced to be president.

    Since Obama clinched the nomination, it has remained an open question as to what role Clinton would play in the campaign.

  100. jbstonesfan Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    What is Hillary doing and why has she not been treated better by the BO camp after the great unity speech she gave in NH….she must be offered the VP .

    Bill Clinton may have said that she deserves to be OFFERED the VP. But he didn’t say he wanted her to TAKE it.

  101. Poor poor poor Bam’s……. Don’t pick on my wife…..it makes me so mad!
    but now he’s willing to debate the press so they leave MHO alone.

    me thinks we should step up our blogging on Michelle and make her a target for more conversation 😀

    Obama Calls Criticism of Wife ‘Infuriating’

    Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:30 PM

    WASHINGTON — What gets under Barack Obama’s skin? Criticism of his wife, Michelle Obama.

    In an interview with Glamour magazine, Obama said attacks on his wife are “infuriating.” The likely Democratic presidential nominee blamed the conservative press for going after his wife as if she were the candidate.

    “If they have a difference with me on policy, they should debate me. Not her,” Obama told the magazine.

    An Associated Press-Yahoo poll suggests Michelle Obama has higher favorable ratings than Cindy McCain, wife of presumptive Republican nominee John McCain. However, Michelle Obama’s unfavorable ratings are also higher.

    Michelle Obama came under fire in February when she said she was proud of her country for the first time in her adult life. She later clarified her remark, saying she has always been proud of her country and was particularly proud to see so many people involved in the political process.

    Obama said the attacks are ironic because his wife is “the most quintessentially American woman I know.”

  102. djia,
    I read that article and I heard there’s an interview of BC and he seems furious.

    Did you catch that?

    BTW, How’s your move going?

  103. Sad to read that Bill is ready to campaign for Obama now. For me, I will not listen to anything that the Clintons have to say about this man. I wil sound utterly ridiculous. Why should Bill campaign for him, he shouldn’t be obligated to. If I was in Bill’s place, I definitely wouldn’t campaign for this man. My only support will be not to publicly diss him, that’s enough support for me. Who would actually listen to the Clintons now after saying for months that he is unelectable (except for the ones who switched to Obama now). But now he is electable. He will carry out my plans? Please!!!!!

    They will have to be careful about what they say or insinuate about supporters not backing Obama. I think they need to just keep quiet about that and not say anything negative about us because it will make me even more hardened to not vote for Obama. What if someone asks Hillary, “You said that Obama was unelectable, what has changed to make him electable now?”

    The Republicans already have a video out with Hillary saying that Obama is unelectable which would make her comments now look silly.

    Sorry, but I can’t believe anyone could “force” them to back Obama publicly. The most that they could do is just not diss him publicly and leave it at that. The Clintons support of Obama will just drive her former supporters further away, not bring them together. Yeah, I am bitter. At this point I am more anti-obama than pro-hillary. She is out of the race. Suspending is the same as conceding to me.

  104. basil at 3:28, I don;t know what to make of MO’s absence.

    BTW, I wouldn’t dump on Bill for saying he’ll campaign for Waffles. He’s just doing what he has to as a loyal Dem. It’s irrelevant to how he really feels. Rest assured, he won’t forget how Waffles and the MSM painted him and his wife as racists, and how the DNC did all they could to help Waffles win the primaries.

  105. independent,

    I agree. I don’t believe anyone can ‘force’ BC to publicly back His Snobbiness.

  106. Keep in mind, Bill has to play this “unity” game to keep Hillary’s options open for a future presidential run.

  107. Independent2008

    That was bound to happen. They must behave like they are playing the game. Hillary is a sitting Democratic Senator, and she has to live within this party, at least for a while.

    I don’t think Hillary’s endorsement has helped him at all, and I doubt that Bill’s will. I hate the rules on political parties, but none the less, the people playing this game have to live by them.

  108. I just hate to see the Clintons play the “game”. They didn’t seem to play the game while Billl was in office and Bill stood his ground during his impeachment. They both got through that storm ok. It just seems that they are pandering way too much to Democrats more than I have ever seen them do. The Clintons not caving in to some of the pressures is what drew me to them in the first place.

    Besides, do you all think that they would treat Hillary any better in 2012 than they have now? They know how to bring the Clintons down now. The Clintons are unable to defeat a black person. I really don’t see anything being better in 2012. Just saying that she would be the top runner in 2012 would be irrevelent. She was the top runner this year and we saw what happened.

    Besides, I don’t blame Obama and his campaign for using the race card as much as I blame some black people for believing all of the nonsense. The statements that Bill and Hillary said during the campaign didn’t strike me as racist at all. I know that the Clintons are racists and just because other black people say so doesn’t make me follow the herd. I have my own mind.

    I do agree with Jesse Jackson when he said that when Bill said that Jesse won in South Carolina, he was just stating a fact. As for what Hillary said about Lyndon Johnson being responsible for the civil rights movement, I assumed she meant that it took a DEMOCRAT to actually sign it into law. Not disrespecting MLK.

    Obama is trying to be a combo of JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr. Someone should tell Obama that he is no JFK and he certainly is no Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Thoughts from a southern black female 🙂

  109. Paula,
    I think it’s from BC’s comments he was ready to stump for Waffles today. The article is all over the blogs but a NQ poster also said this which is why i assumed there was ana video clip. (i asked the blogger for a link bu s(he) hasn’t gotten back to me. here’s the comment:

    ‘I saw that interview, and he looked Mad. He said He has told Obama he would stump for him, whenever Obama wants him to.Seems Obama is so busy getting ready with the convention… Folks I gotta tell you, my gut is telling me something.Something is going on behind the scenes, and we will all find out at the convention. I just can’t see Bill Clinton stumping for Obama. You can see the hate he has for him in that last interview. Am I the only person that can see this? I think things will be settled at the convention,and I can’t see Obama being the nominee. I just can’t. This is a joke,its gotta be.’

  110. independent,

    hmmmmmm. Interesting take:

    ‘They know how to bring the Clintons down now. The Clintons are unable to defeat a black person.’

    But I think this is the first and last time the race card will be of any use to a presidential candidate. Waffles has overplayed his hand and boredom has set in. The term has become irrelevant except to the media sycophants who, no doubt, are drowning in white guilt or at least feel compelled to act as if they are. For the rest of the country the word racism has lost all meaning. (IMHO)

  111. OOOPPPS……….

    Made a major mistake in my last post. I meant to type that “I know that the Clintons AREN’T racists!!

    I would love to see Bill’s interview.

    I have also heard off and on that Hillary has a “list”. Whatever that means.

  112. basil9

    heard a half-hour ago, what for NPR is a scathing report on Bamsi’s trip…and the overall amount of coverage he has rec’d since May 2nd (I think that was the date they used.)

    The heads of the 3-4 major networks were so self congratulatory and unapologetic, it was so obvious… there is gonna be something coming out of NYC, DC, and/Atlanta… just because they over-reacted.

    This cannot continue…the center will not hold. Hubris has it’s own justice…

  113. Two things stand out in this :”In an interview with Glamour magazine, Obama said attacks on his wife are “infuriating.” The likely Democratic presidential nominee blamed the conservative press for going after his wife as if she were the candidate.

    “If they have a difference with me on policy, they should debate me. Not her,” Obama told the magazine.”

    1.) Precious doing an interview with “GLAMOUR” Magazine..how fitting
    2.) …they should debate me.”

    Well Precious…they are TRYING to , but you always run and hide.

  114. Just received an email from Greta with a pic of John McCain and his wife Cindy at a rally. She said that she would love to post a pic of Obama at one of his rallys also. She says that ever since he had become the presumptive nominee, he has continously said no to her invitations. She said that she had interviewed once before then and she thought that she was fair to him and would be fair to him again. Please Greta…..don’t beg for for Obama’s attendance. His head his swelled enough. His surrogates are already saying that he is so popular that everyone wants a piece of him.

    Of course, he hasn’t shown up on O’Reilly’s yet either!

  115. I so much admire the strength and smarts that Bill and Hillary are showing as they bide their time.

    Good things come to those who wait!

    Obama is crazy if he wants more than a cameo or two from Bill. The mere sight of either is an accusation toward the waffle. Bill is a boiler filled with contempt for BHO and under pressure, ready to blow. .

  116. Norma: If Pampers thinks things are “hot” with MO, he hasn’t seen anything yet. After all the years of heat, Hillary took, MO and Pampers look and act like, a couple of whiners. Candidate wives have always been fair game. His campaign has been criticizing Cindy McCain for her financial assets, when Cindy has a resume full of charitable works. The hypocrisy of the BO campaign, never ceases to amaze me.

  117. Emjay,

    i agree about karma, although it isn’t always immediate 🙁
    but what did you mean by this? i didn’t get it.

    ‘there is gonna be something coming out of NYC, DC, and/Atlanta… just because they over-reacted.’

  118. Has Sugar been on recently?

    I’d love her take on what is currently happening…

    also to find out how her writing partnership is going…

    also to find out if she thinks racist attacks have been beaten into the ground, and therefore made ineffecive from here on. Black, brown, red and Asian folks I know…most of whom are leaders in their familias and communities, feel the topic has been exhausted and is useless now as an “issue” -as long as those of us who are stabbed w/ it feel the topic has been overused and has been abused, and just act bored with it.

    So from now on, it doesn’t irritate me…I’m just bored at its mention and even more bored with the user of the incantation.

  119. Emjay: Have you checked out her blog?

    sugarnspice.typepad.com/

    Michelle Obama A Quintessential American Woman?
    I don’t think so. MSNBC reports that Backtrack Obama says criticisms of his wife “infuriate” him. To that I say, “Who gives a shit about whether or not he is infuriated?” What is he going to do? Hem and haw us to death? Fuck him and his scoop mouth wife. I get so sick of these people I don’t know what to do with myself. She’s the one on the campaign trail bumping her scoop gums about how angry she is with the country and such.

    During the interview, Backtrack said this, which is laughable at best and a flat out lie at worse:

    Obama said the attacks are ironic because his wife is “the most quintessentially American woman I know.”

    What is that supposed to mean? All American women are whiny fools who don’t know a good thing when they’ve got it? He and Michelle can go to hell. –SUGAR

  120. Norma: ROFL!

    Are these real condoms?
    ObamaCondoms are real, name-brand latex condoms.And they’re FDA approved! They are similar in quality to condoms that you would buy in your neighborhood drug store.

    Will they work?
    We can’t guarantee that just by wearing an ObamaCondom you will be safe from a night of reckless abandon with a member of the opposite party. No condom is 100% effective, but we are certain that without wearing one, there’s likely to be an Obama-mama in your future. So, like anyone with a good exit strategy, keep a back-up plan handy.

    Any tips?
    ObamaCondoms do not like prolonged exposure to direct sunlight. Don’t let them go past their expiration date. Like Bush’s Presidency, over time ObamaCondoms will become less effective and prone to failure. Use only with water-based lubricants, there’s a good reason for it and oil’s too expensive anyway.

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  121. oklahomahills Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
    I so much admire the strength and smarts that Bill and Hillary are showing as they bide their time.
    Good things come to those who wait!
    Obama is crazy if he wants more than a cameo or two from Bill. The mere sight of either is an accusation toward the waffle. Bill is a boiler filled with contempt for BHO and under pressure, ready to blow. .

    ===================================

    Oooh, good point! Bill is crazy like a fox. No matter what HIllary rashly promised and what Obama knows he needs, Bill can keep Hillary from getting nominated VP, just by sitting there with steam coming from his ears.

    YAY GOD BLESS BILLLLLLLLLLL!

    But petition anyway, AGAINST Hillary as VP:
    h t t p : / / http://www.pumaparty.com/nohillaryvp

  122. Something has happened here. Bill does not just wake up some morning and decide alls well. It seems most likely to me that Bambi has made some concession. They know the clintons hold the key to winning or losing in the fall and they cannot take the risk. It may relate to roll call. It may relate to vice presidency. It may relate to health care. It may relate to quality time at the convention. Or some combination of the above, or something else. You notice that Bloomberg is suddenly hosting an event. It is all too cooincidental. When the smoke clears will anyone do anything for the American People. Or is it all just one big shell game. Time will tell.

  123. I haven’t seen the earlier posts.

    independent2008 Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
    Besides, do you all think that they would treat Hillary any better in 2012 than they have now? They know how to bring the Clintons down now. The Clintons are unable to defeat a black person. I really don’t see anything being better in 2012. Just saying that she would be the top runner in 2012 would be irrevelent. She was the top runner this year and we saw what happened.

    Very good points. Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, etc would not treat Hillary any better in 2012. But the question is, if Wafflfes becomes the McGovern of 2008, ie fails miserably against McCain — will Dean, Pelosi, Brazile still hold the power of the DNC? When a candidate loses as bad as McGovern did, don’t the candidate and the DNC head all sort of get the boot, or at least lose power?

    It wasn’t just the Clintons being unable to defeat a Black person. No white person could have, the way Brazile and Dean had things set up. Brazile admitted several years ago giving extra delegates to Black neighborhoods, and Dean put SC early in the primary list while crippling FL and MI. Brazile admitted tweaking delegate allocation, boundaries, etc to fix it where Blacks acting together nationwide could control the nomination.

    Another factor was caucuses and Pelosi saying ‘pledged delegates’ should override primaries and superdelegates; that’s not necessarily a Black/white issue. But HIllary is very vulnerable to caucuses because her issues appeal to people who cannot attend caucuses: old, sick, poor, needing childcare, etc.

    Hopefully if BO crashes in Nov, those in the DNC who do care about winning the White House will reform some of these rules to make it easier for Hillary in 2012 — or at least make the caucuses less powerful so as to select a candidate more acceptable to the November 2012 voters rather than to the caucus attendees (leisured class).

    This is one thing that comforts me if Hillary isn’t nominated in Denver. If she is and wins in Nov, then BO would be there to make trouble and probably challenge a sitting Pres Hillary in 2012 (as Ted Kennedy did Carter). If BO gets the nomination and gets smashed this November, then hopefully he and his crowd will be discredited for a good long time, like McGovern (and Dukakis?). Let McCain make a start on cleaning up from Bush, then HIllary in 2012. 🙂

  124. # basil9 Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    djia,
    I read that article and I heard there’s an interview of BC and he seems furious.

    Did you catch that?

    BTW, How’s your move going?
    *****************************
    no i didn’t here that about BC yet….. can you tell me more or give me a link?
    and the move is going….LOL nearly finished, going back this weekend for the last of everything and have the house all clean now……now to clean the new house and put it all away……FUN NOT! LOL

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