Hillary Clinton’s True Democrats, Barack Obama’s PINOs

First the good news this day before Independence Day.

Hillary Clinton Supporters Count Too Ohio organizers had a meeting last night. Here’s what happened at the meeting:

Our meeting with organizers from Central and Southern Ohio was a success. Teams split between organizing travel to Denver and planning the Ohio Event. Everyone present agreed to write, call and email CREW urging an inquiry into Obama’s favored status loan from Northern Trust and the Rezko connection. I hope our efforts can help. Everyone present also asked to be added to Ricki Lieberman’s Electability Newsletter.

Clinton Supporters Count Too is going to Denver. We will all celebrate Women’s Equality Day in Denver and across the nation (Ohio is already organizing events). Many Hillary supporters from around the country are organzing debates and town halls to be held on August 26, Women’s Equality Day. The trashing of women in general and Hillary in particular will be a focal point for these events.

Hillary supporters in the Denver area are needed by groups organizing travel to Denver. Organizers need Denver Hillary supporters to assist with various kinds of research and information particularly regarding hotels and other accommodations. Contact us at admin@HillaryIs44.org if you are a Denver resident willing to assist the organizing groups.

Clinton Supporters Count Too also sent this bit of Denver information:

Btw just a side note, there is a huge (150,000sq.ft.) exhibit of Presidential Memorabilia in Denver from 8/22-8/29. Sounds really cool with a lifesize replica of the oval office and appraisers on site to estimate the value of any old campaign souveniers you might want to evaluate.

We will let Obama have the replica of the Oval Office, Hillary Clinton gets the real thing.

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Clinton Supporters Count Too at their meeting agreed to assist us with Action Item 4.

Action Item #4: Let’s communicate via blogs and emails and articles and posts and comments the need for the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate Barack Obama and his Chicago Culture of Corruption (read today’s Washington Post article from today, below).

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics filed a complaint which triggered an initial inquiry into Senators Dodd and Conrad. Let’s ask Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics to file a similar complaint regarding Barack Obama (for which they will probably be called racists by the Obama Hopium denizens).

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics website HERE. Email Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics HERE. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, 1400 Eye Street NW, Suite 450, Washington, D.C. 20005, 202.408.5565

Along with the assist from yesterday’s Ohio organizers, influential activist, Ricki Leiberman, mentioned our efforts to get a Senate Ethics Committee investigation in her excellent, must read, Electability Watch newsletter (lots of good information in Ricki’s newsletter such as news regarding a fundraiser for Hillary supporter Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, and sample letters to Superdelegates. Subscribe to Electability Watch by emailing Ricki Leiberman at rrlieberma@gmail.com ).

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Hillary Clinton supporters are true Democrats who will hold Republicans AND their own political party to account on core principles such as the right to vote and to have your vote count the way it was voted. The U.S. Supreme Count in 2000 disenfranchised all Democrats, indeed all Americans, when the Court selected George W. Bush to occupy the White House. This year Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee imitated George W. Bush and disenfranchised Florida, as well as Michigan, voters. The fact is that we were all disenfranchised by the Democratic National Committee this election cycle.

PINO (Progressives In Name Only) websites cheered as voters were disenfranchised. These PINOs abandoned all principles. These PINOs particularly abandoned core Democratic principles. The history of the ugly PINO blogs is slowly being written. The history of the ugly PINO blogs and their misogyny and their attacks on Hillary is slowly being written.

The Guardian:

In 1998, as six years of a national campaign to demonize First Lady Hillary Clinton — funded by conservatives and rooted in profound anti-feminism — was reaching a fevered crescendo, then-conservative David Brock (now of Media Matters) penned a book called The Seduction of Hillary Rodham. The publisher’s note for the tome says of its subject: “No public figure in contemporary life has elicited more polarized reactions than Hillary Rodham Clinton. The first presidential spouse who pursued a major policymaking role, the beleaguered first lady has been a heroine and role model to her feminist allies – and a malevolent, power-mad shrew to her conservative foes.”

Sometime in the last decade, her liberal foes evidently decided that whole “malevolent, power-mad shrew” thing sounded pretty good, too.

Political courtesan Arriana Huffington hated Hillary when Huffington was a in bed with Republican Newt Gingrich. When Newt realized Arriana was a nut he dumped her. Arriana quickly hopped in bed with PINOs and declared herself their leader. Arriana still hated Hillary. Arriana and the Head Kook at DailyKooks and other self-described “left libertarians” attacked true progressive Hillary Clinton.

Throughout the course of the Democratic primary, it was neatly repackaged as “wildly ambitious person who will do anything in her voracious quest to win including destroying the Democratic Party while cackling monstrously and whose womanness totally doesn’t matter we swear.” The classic misogynist charge once used against Clinton by the vast right-wing conspiracy became the rallying cry of large swaths of the erstwhile reality-based community.

Without a hint of irony.

Clinton was suddenly a bitch, a witch, the Queen of Hearts “who has parasitically attached herself to the legacy and record of” her husband, the screech on the blackboard with an elitist trademark laugh. “Hitlery,” “Hildebeast,” and “Billary” – staples of 1990s criticisms of the feminist First Lady have returned with a vengeance. She was a monster, the devil in a pantsuit, targeted with dehumanizing and eliminationist rhetoric to which liberal bloggers used to object when the right used it against liberals, but apparently now consider okay, as long as it’s only directed at a candidate they don’t like.

In a spectacular ballet of aggressive misogyny, attacks on Clinton’s femaleness masquerading as critiques of Clinton’s policies and campaign failures (separate altogether from legitimate critiques of Clinton’s policies and campaign failures), and indifference to the former, the liberal blogosphere – once a proud conglomeration of feisty challengers to Republican memes – embraced as its own one of the most pernicious strategies of the 1990s anti-Clinton conservatives.

And they didn’t stop there.

From our very first post we noted that the danger to Hillary Clinton would not come from the right wing media but rather from so-called “progressives” who repeat Republican propaganda to undermine Hillary or any of our candidates. We were on target from our very first post. [Note: We stopped defending Obama or even giving him the benefit of the doubt and publically stated so. We stated at the time that we would no longer defend Obama when Obama spread anonymous ugly memoranda attacking Bill and Hillary with smears. Lately Republican Big Media outlets claim Obama as one of their ugly own running for Bush’s third term.]

In a complete 180-degree turn, the same members of the left who had once defended Clinton against the attacks of the right wing – the trumped-up scandals and dug-up dirt that led to endless hours and millions upon millions of dollars wasted in fruitless investigations of the Clintons, their business dealings, their friends, not to mention the peculiar features of Bill’s twig and berries – adopted the frames of those attacks as their own. Everything old was new again. Call it political retro chic.

One diarist on Daily Kos even provided a helpful guide to all the scandals of the Clinton years, with ratings from one to 10 based on scandal level and the level of Hillary Clinton’s involvement. The “Level of Scandal” for some of the scandals listed is artificially inflated by the diarist, JohnKWilson (author of a book on Obama), to reflect the impact of the “cover-up,” thus adding five scandal points to Hillary’s level-two-rated cattle-futures windfall for the alleged cover-up, and a whopping seven scandal points to level-one-rated “Travelgate”, based only on Wilson’s conclusion that, despite the charge not having been substantiated, that Clinton must have lied under oath.

Wilson acknowledged that Clinton has never, even after years of being investigated at great cost to the taxpayers, been charged with any sort of crime; however, that did not prevent him from concluding nonetheless, unhindered by the lack of evidence, that she has behaved unethically, that her judgment is lacking, that she lied under oath, that she is secretive, that she padded her legal bills (or lied about them), and that she must have participated in Bill’s “abuse of power.” The source for many of these allegations are books by Carl Bernstein and Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta, both of which were previously considered to be hit pieces containing a great deal of speculation and not much new information (in spite of the hype).

The scandals of the 1990s – Monicagate, Travelgate, Whitewater, and, more importantly, the hovering specter that Hillary Clinton has something to hide, and the ability to reflexively and repeatedly invoke them under the guise of what the GOP would use against her – came to serve a number of purposes for her detractors, even those within the Democratic party. The financial and political scandals, in particular, were used to fuel the meme that Clinton is a liar and a cheat who was trying to steal the election away from Obama, that she’d so anything to win, is secretive and was hiding unsavory business associations (this was a particular rallying cry prior to the Clintons’ release of their joint tax records, which incited a small flurry about how much they had made in the past seven years) and a great deal of uninformed commentary about the family foundation, as well as Clinton’s daily records from her years as First Lady).

Some of the scandal mentions were deployed defensively, in order to deflect attention away from Obama’s own alleged scandals: When the press began to pay attention to Obama’s association with Tony Rezko, supporters raised the complaint that insufficient attention was being paid to Whitewater, the Clintons’ fateful failed Arkansas land deal, despite a multi-million dollar investigation that found no wrongdoing having been completed a decade earlier.

By April, the blogfather Kos himself was agreeing that Clinton wasn’t even to be considered a Democrat anymore.

The Head Kook, a self described “left libertarian” said Hillary was not a Democrat. The Head Kook fooled the DailyKooks and the YearlyKooks while he laughed all the way to the bank.

The Kooks, the HOUNDS, the DUDDs, the DNC, Obama/Dean/Brazille/Pelosi think we are as unprincipled as they are , that we would ever accept the unacceptable Obama – especially after they and Obama smeared Hillary and Hillary Clinton supporters – even as they disenfranchised Hillary voters.

The Guardian:

It was an indication of how thoroughly the left co-opted the use of the GOP and media-created scandals, to smear Hillary Clinton during the presidential primaries, that the Republicans weren’t even mentioning them much anymore, content to let the Left do its dirty work. There was little reason for GOP operatives to get their hands dirty reviving the villainous First Lady Macbeth caricature, when many liberals were happy to do it for them.

Not content to merely destroy the entire Democratic party single-handedly, Hillary Clinton was hell-bent on murder. Evidently having failed to satiate her bloodlust after murdering Vince Foster – or such was the claim of her ideological enemies, a charge still being chanted like a demonic incantation by rightwing pain-maker Rush Limbaugh – now she was openly lusting for the assassination of her opponent, Barack Obama. (That is not to suggest there were no legitimate concerns about her statement.) And Randi Rhodesa “progressive talk radio personality” – fresh from calling Clinton a “fucking whore,” fanned the same flames when she announced fearing for her life after delivering the insult to someone who routinely has her enemies whacked.

“Billary”, the two-headed monster created by the rightwing to demonize the “two-for-one” presidency of Bill Clinton and his feminist, advisor wife Hillary Clinton, also stumbled out of its grave, given new life by liberals who defended the Clintons against the very same attack when it was her being used against him during his administration, but now found it politically expedient to use him against her. Billary was back in vogue, and infamous Clinton-haters in the media like Maureen Dowd or Chris Matthews (who remains as fixated on Clinton scandals, especially the Lewinsky matter – the scandal that made his career – as ever) accused Hillary of being nothing without her husband, only having come within inches of the presidency because her husband had cheated on her. The progressive blogosphere largely remained silent, or, worse, acquiesced by suggesting there was some truth to the categorisation.

After the 2000 election heart-broken and angry Democrats went to what they though were progressive blogs in the same way troubled souls go to a friendly bar to be surrounded by friends and good cheer. The “progressive” blogs eventually uncloaked and revealed themselves to be PINO blogs devoid of any sense of purpose other than their self-promotion and self-advancement and self-enrichment. Their goal this election cycle was to promote the biggest PINO of all – Barack Obama; and to trash a great woman.

Other sources of the attacks of the 1990s found fresh credibility, as long as they were smearing the Clintons. Many of the Clintons’ foes on the Left uncritically accepted rumors and claims pushed by Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh because they reflected poorly on the Clintons, rushing, for example, to condemn Hillary Clinton for disseminating a photo of Obama in Somali garb, not considering that the source of the claim that the photo came from the Clinton campaign was none other than Matt Drudge (a claim that has since been debunked, but persists nevertheless). And many eager to find fault with the Clintons believed that Bill Clinton had appeared on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show and granted an interview to his guest-host, Mark Davis (the interview was actually recorded by a service and sold so that local interviewers could dub their own voices over the interviewer’s questions). In addition, they swallowed whole Limbaugh’s claim that his “Operation Chaos,” in which he asked his listeners to vote for Clinton in the primaries in order to mess with the nominating process, was effective and believed that this was tantamount to an endorsement of Clinton by the right wing.

Meanwhile, a hatchet job on Bill Clinton in Vanity Fair – rife with rumor and speculation, either unsourced or anonymously sourced, precisely the kind of journalism the Left blogosphere would once have almost universally rejected, irrespective of its target – was peddled by some progressives as though it were fact. And we were meant to care what the Moonie Times had to say about ancient Clinton scandals.

Increasingly, it looked as if many on the left had never spent a moment believing those attacks to be untrue, or the Clintons defensible, in the first place. And eventually came the posts of regret for having ever defended the Clintons in the 1990s, a curious position if those defenses were merited in the 1990s.

Perhaps the left had never defended the Clintons on the merits, instead merely playing a game of partisanship that once required rejecting rightwing frames, even while they internalised them. Perhaps the “vast right-wing conspiracy” had reached further than we once imagined.

The PINOs trashed Hillary and are only now discovering that

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

Have we said enough that Obama can’t be trusted?

While PINOs discover that Obama can’t be trusted, Hillary Supporters are organizing – on the road to Denver.

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104 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton’s True Democrats, Barack Obama’s PINOs

  1. CHANGE
    we all have a change jar/bucket/whatever lets all cash them in and send them to HRC with the taqline change I believe in. My local grocery store charges .09 for every dollar but those pennies will probably sit for ever so why not?

  2. In the world outside politics, many of those charges would be defamation of character. In the Political world, we seem to allow people to say anything about you ,even though there is no truth, and in some areas it has been proven. I wonder how many good leaders we have allowed to be eliminated this way.

    Of course their are those who will not enter the political arena because of it.

  3. Bipartisanship marks McCain’s Senate tenure

    Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:42 PM

    In this April 6, 2006 photo, Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., background, and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., take part in a news conference on Capitol Hill, as Senate Democrats and Republicans announced they are close a compromise on immigration legislation. (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)

    WASHINGTON — Republicans deemed it beyond the pale when Sen. John McCain crossed the Capitol, set up shop in an office belonging to House Democrats and lobbied wavering lawmakers on legislation to reduce the role of money in politics.

    “A legend in his own mind,” then-Majority Leader Dick Armey, a Texan, acidly called his fellow Republican at the time.

    Yet the events of that long day and night in 2002 fit a pattern for a man whose congressional career long has included a singular brand of combative bipartisanship. For more than a decade, on tobacco, health care, immigration, judicial nominees, creation of a commission to investigate the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks and more, McCain has championed high-profile legislation opposed by President Bush or others in his own party.

    His record of accomplishment is mixed, yet he has made his willingness to cross the political aisle a central theme in his campaign for the White House in an era when voters are plainly tired of partisan gridlock in the nation’s capital.

    “I believe in bipartisanship, and that’s been my record, of reaching across the aisle, whether it be to Joe Lieberman or Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy” or others, he said recently, referring to Democrats with whom he has worked.

    McCain added that he has a “long record of putting my country first, of putting my country not only before my party but before myself. Senator Obama does not have that record.”

    Obama, McCain’s Democratic rival in the race for the White House, also lists bipartisanship as a congressional credential. A recent Associated Press-Yahoo News poll showed about 40 percent of the electorate believes both men would work across party lines.

    Even so, none of the examples cited by Obama’s aides, beginning with a bill to secure nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union, placed the Illinois lawmaker at odds with the leaders of his own party or gave significant offense to outside interest groups aligned with Democrats.

    Not so, McCain.

    The Arizona Republican “took on his own party’s leadership, and that takes enormous courage,” says former Rep. Martin Meehan of Massachusetts, a Democrat who worked closely with McCain for years on the campaign finance legislation that Bush reluctantly signed into law. He added that such defiance can often lead to retaliation by the leadership.

    “He’s a tough adversary. He’s a very effective legislator,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said in an interview.

    As a longtime member of his party’s leadership, McConnell has often borne the brunt of McCain’s bipartisanship, yet he said he has never seen him cross an imaginary line into foul territory.

    Nor surprisingly, McCain has had triumphs and failures over the years. He’s occasionally offended his negotiating partners, and reaped criticism from members of his own party.

    Democrats say he can decide quickly what broad concepts he will accept in the give-and-take of negotiations. Republicans say he is too quick to give in to Democratic demands. He is known for speaking bluntly, and for keeping his word.

    House Republican leaders were anything but complimentary six years ago, when McCain tried to change federal campaign funding law over their vehement opposition.

    When McCain decided on the spur of the moment to work out of an office belonging to then-Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt, they told members of the GOP rank-and-file that it was proof he was doing the Democrats’ work.

    “He was basically in the war room. It was unusual,” said Meehan, who now is chancellor of the University of Massachusetts-Lowell.

    At one point, as the measure neared a final Senate showdown, McCain issued a thinly veiled warning to members of his own party. “If I were a Republican up for re-election in the Senate, I’d ask myself, ‘Do you want to be part of a continuing filibuster?'” he said at the time.

    McCain was the point man in 2005 in the ultimately successful effort to gain Bush’s signature on legislation banning the use of torture against detainees in the war on terror.

    “We’ve sent a message to the world that the United States is not like the terrorists,” he said at the time, seated in the Oval Office near a president whose aides had once threatened a veto over the ban. McCain’s victory came despite a personal, closed-door appeal to Republican senators from Vice President Dick Cheney to exempt CIA employees from the prohibition.

    Earlier that same year, McCain was a member of the so-called Gang of 14, a self-appointed group of seven senators from each party that averted a Senate crisis over administration judicial nominees long blocked by Democrats.

    The final agreement was sealed around a table in McCain’s Senate office.

    As a result, some long-stalled appointees were confirmed, angering liberals. Others were blocked, to the anger of conservatives. “I think McCain is going to suffer. He’s a great war hero and I think he meant well, but it will be proven to be a mistake,” said Chuck Hurley of the conservative Iowa Family Policy Center.

    Along the way, two officials said McCain angered another one of the 14, Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, by bluntly telling him he was taking too long to review the proposed agreement. Lieberman, then a Democrat, walked out of the session in response, according to these officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In another episode, Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas responded similarly to a tongue-lashing from McCain in a closed-door meeting on immigration in the same year.

    Whatever the bruised feelings, McCain and Lieberman work closely on climate control legislation. The Connecticut senator, now an independent, has endorsed McCain in the presidential race because of their mutual support for the war in Iraq.

    Not all of McCain’s high-profile stabs at bipartisanship have been successful.

    After running for president in 2000, he returned to Congress and joined attempts to pass a patient bill of rights. He told Republicans and Democrats alike at the time that in his campaign travels, he had heard numerous times that voters wanted the measure.

    Efforts to forge a compromise ultimately broke down when competing outside interests — insurance companies and trial lawyers — could not agree on terms covering lawsuits by patients.

    More recently, McCain has been deeply involved in unsuccessful efforts to pass immigration legislation that offers a path to citizenship for millions of men and women in the country illegally. The measure ran aground two years in a row, providing a dramatic illustration of the risks of bipartisanship.

    McCain’s support for legislation that conservative critics deemed an amnesty bill contributed to the near-collapse of his presidential candidacy. He shifted emphasis — his campaign Web Site makes no mention of his backing for citizenship — and now Democrats accuse him of walking away from an issue he once championed.

    Ironically, the campaign season has caused something of a role reversal among Democrats, many of whom once praised McCain for his efforts, and Republicans who formerly struggled to stop them.

    Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, who was active on legislation to ban torture, declined to be interviewed.

    And McConnell volunteered that McCain’s views on Iraq, tax cuts and other areas are those of a loyal Republican.

    “He has also been with us on a lot of issues too so it’s not like he’s looking to make a deal on every issue,” he said.

  4. Many Democrats have a hard time voting for McCain BUT yet they would support that Lying Unprincipled Opportunistic Obama, who will sell you out in a hot second.

  5. carbynew

    Bipartinsanship is a rough road for politicians who are inexperienced, and who don’t like controversary or have relationships built. Obama has no track record here, this is known by his peers.

    You have seen McCain’s track record, which is impressive. After you have been a POW and suffered in that environment, bipartinsanship is a piece of Cake.

    There is no other Command in Chief in the World that has this experience. carbynew, voting for McCain will be a piece of cake.

  6. Carby, I’M a Democrat who will find it very hard to vote for McCain. Right now, I’d like nothing better than to just sit out the vote. But life is seldom that easy…and certainly not that easy at this point in history. My doubts regarding Obama’s qualifications and character are SO extreme, that it has become my obligation to ensure that he doesn’t land in the WH. If that means I have to help support the person most capable of beating him in Novemeber…I’m just gonna have to suck it up and vote McCain.

    But I am NOT happy about that. 🙁

  7. Idunn:

    I think it is safe to say that most times, our votes are not enthusiastic. I was not thrilled about Kerry, but I badly wanted him to beat Bush. I was not thrilled about Mondale, but I badly wanted him to beat Reagan. I was not thrilled about Dukakis either, but preventing “Reagan’s Third Term” was important. (I won’t disparage Al Gore for 2000, but his recent endorsement of BO reinforced my opinion that the whole of the Dem leadership is spineless).

    I think William Jefferson Clinton was the one I was most psyched about, and hopeful, and there were many successes. That be said, there were plenty of compromises, sellouts, etc.

    I’m actually more excited about McCain that like Dukakis. Hey, at least he’s standing firm on ANWR. And with Obama, you have NO CLUE how far right he’ll lurch, to “do or say anything to win”. With McCain, I have infinitely greater trust than the Creature from the Chicago Sewers.

  8. Hillary in Syracuse, NY yesterday. Lots of pictures.

    http://www.syracuse.com/politics/

    Syracuse — Hundreds of Central New Yorkers flocked to Hanover Square this morning to hear Sen. Hillary Clinton talk about renewable energy and show their support for Clinton in her first visit to Upstate New York since she withdrew from the presidential race.

    Gloria Wright/The Post-Standard
    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is greeted by supporters in Hanover Square Wednesday.Clinton did not mention presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama by name during her 14-minute speech, but afterward she told the media she and former President Bill Clinton are urging her supporters to vote for Obama in November.

    “We will have a new president in January and one I am very confident will have the vision to bring our country together,” Clinton said during her speech.

    The crowd of several hundred responded to Clinton like she was a rock star, using cell phones to snap pictures, hugging her, and asking for her autograph on any scrap of paper they could find.

    “She hugged me,” gushed Stephanie Roehm after posing for a photo with Clinton.

    “I think she is awesome,” said Joanne Landers of Liverpool, who took a break from her downtown job to catch a glimpse of Clinton. “I’m bummed (she isn’t running for president). I’m hoping she will take the VP job.”

    “If she’s the vice president, I’ll vote for Obama. Otherwise I’m not voting,” said Nicole Baldwin of Volney.

  9. If you haven’t read
    You Down With O.P.P.?
    posted on July 2 by myiq2xu over at the conflutians
    You really are missing something good.

  10. Idunn Says:

    July 3rd, 2008 at 9:36 am
    Carby, I’M a Democrat who will find it very hard to vote for McCain. Right now, I’d like nothing better than to just sit out the vote. But life is seldom that easy…and certainly not that easy at this point in history. My doubts regarding Obama’s qualifications and character are SO extreme, that it has become my obligation to ensure that he doesn’t land in the WH. If that means I have to help support the person most capable of beating him in Novemeber…I’m just gonna have to suck it up and vote McCain.

    But I am NOT happy about that.
    *****************************************************
    Look! I am NOT happy to be voting for McCain because I wanted a centrist how leaned left but no way in HELL would I vote for Obama and his EGOTISTIC, LYING RACE BAITING SELF with ZERO EXPERIENCE on the NATIONAL AND WORLD STAGE with 2 war zones and economic distaster awaiting. Nor do I want to elevate CHICAGO CORRUPT POLITICAL MACHINE.

    HELL NO!!!!

    But McCain is looking very, very good right now when you compare the Democratic Party’s nominee Obama. And if you think it will get better once Obama is in the WH….FORGET IT!! We will get more of the same arrogance, insecurity and untrustworthy.

    Four Years of King Obama is a very long time after Eight Years of GWB.

  11. lil ole grape Says:
    July 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 am

    If you haven’t read
    You Down With O.P.P.?
    posted on July 2 by myiq2xu over at the conflutians
    &&&&&

    What is the url (link) for “conflutians”?

  12. PUMAs versus possums: this is what a grassroots movement looks like
    A grassroots movement is something that comes from the ground up; hence the name. That should go without saying, but since the phrase has become utterly devalued by the Opossum marketing-campaign-disguised-as-grassroots, I thought I’d better explain it. Especially since we now have a real grassroots movement afoot, a veritable prairie fire called PUMA. And the possums can’t understand it at all. That’s because they’ve never seen anything like it.

    The “Obama movement” is not a true grassroots movement. Being popular is not the same as being grassroots. Having a lot of donors is not the same as being grassroots. That’s just market share. The Obama thing is and has always been a top-down, massively-funded, professionally-designed advertising campaign masquerading as a spontaneous grassroots phenomenon. It’s a product. A very slick, carefully packaged product. And, in a deft postmodern move, part of the product is the illusion that people who buy it are creating an actual grassroots movement. You know: “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” In truth they’re just unpaid salespeople. They’re Amway distributors, buttonholing everybody to tell them about “the plan,” never realizing that the whole point of the thing is just to make the handful of folks at the top of the pyramid stinking rich.

    PUMA, on the other hand, is a genuine grassroots movement: spontaneous, disorganized, and very messy. The name itself was coined by SM in a comment at the Confluence on June 1, but the seeds had already been sown and were germinating weeks before. In my own blogular timeline, I mark this post as a turning point: Why I will not vote for Obama even if he’s the nominee — and why you shouldn’t either. Hillary supporters had been getting angrier and angrier at Obama and at the DNC’s obvious intention to force him on us, and with that post on May 7th I crossed my personal Rubicon. The response was as close to viral as this reclusive little blog ever gets. Other Hillary supporters on other blogs were writing the same kinds of posts, and it soon became clear that we were riding the crest of a wave that was breaking all over the country.
    continue…..

    http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2008/07/03/pumas-versus-possums-this-is-what-a-grassroots-movement-looks-like/

  13. The PUMA ALLIANCE CHANNEL

    powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/07/july-4th-financial-independence-day.html

  14. Well, I have no problem voting McCain. He is looking better and better each day. Early on during the primaries, I thought that I would just sit out the election. But that would be contributing to the success of Obama.

    In my hometown Georgia newspaper, I read that Sam Nunn has been quietly helping Obama behind the scenes about foreign affairs. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama picks Nunn as VP. Obama will be seen as smart about foreign affairs with the help of Sam Nunn. It would look as Obama was knowledgeable about foreign affairs on his own.

    I heard on fox news that it is a lie on the Obama commerical that he signed off about welfare reform. He was against it. Why isn’t McCain and the Republicans calling out Obama about this?

    Wish Hillary would stop telling her supporters to vote for Obama. It just ticking off some of her supporters more and more. It just seems that she don’t want to upset the black voters. I wouldn’t worry about them since they wasn’t voting for her anyway. So what does she have to lose?

    No Obama vp for Hillary. I am even more hardened to vote for an Obama/Clinton. That is a nightmare ticket, not a dream ticket. I don’t why so tv commentators still think that would be a dream ticket. I think that it would backfire!

  15. PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICANS….A vote for the car salesman is a vote for over 20 years of personal relationship with REZKO, Wright, Ayers, and Farahkhan…He is an empty suit; he can say anything to get elected. This rookie is a big PHONY. ….I’m tired of all his rhetoric…..The more I listen to this guy the more I hate him……He can not be trusted…

    Remember Muslim’s sons are for life. Blood is sticker than water. He can say any thing and he can run BUT he can not hide.

    I was a lifelong Democrat, but now Independent. I will never vote for Barrack Hussein OBAMA.

    Please don’t be fooled by a car salesman. ….As a patriotic American; I don’t care if you are a Democrat or Republican, we deserve an honorable man like Sen. McCain.

  16. I will be voting for John McCain, as will most everyone in my family. We feel no remorse at all. He’s the lesser risk of the two.

    Independence Day for me was June 3rd .. but it was coming for a while

  17. Admin! Great Post! I never expect less….

    And I am SO HAPPY about the Clinton Supporters Count Too story! I was thrilled to see my friend Barbara in the picture! I have some great pictures with her when we were in DC for the DonnaBrazileHatesDemocracyandSupportsDisenfranchisement Rally on May 31

    PLEASE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! Go to http://www.18MillionVoices.blogspot.com and GET INVOLVED! We have MANY states participating and even SEVERAL GROUPS in those States. Here in Florida, we have three already and are working an a 4th!

    THANKS ADMIN! YOU ROCK!!!!

  18. Having realized the true Democratic Party was derailed when Donna Brazile and the Supremes screwed Al Gore, I left the Party for MY PERSONAL Declaration of Independence.

    Fast Forward seven years and I found myself living in Florida…of all places….where REAL Democracy is yet an untested theory.

    As I BELIEVED this to be the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF MY LIFETIME, I felt I could not sit out the Primary Process as I had done with John Kerry. That year, 2004, I would have voted against GW Bush NO MATTER WHO the Dems ran. As we have closed Primaries, I REREGISTERED last year as a Democrat ONLY TO DISCOVER Democracy had again not found its way to the Sunshine State. I voted in the Primary for HILLARY CLINTON and KNEW MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY would not AGAIN throw in the towel on making my voice heard and my vote count. But we all know HOW HARD THEY WORKED to MAKE ME LOVE the person who cannot be trusted….”our presumptuous nominee, Our Dauphin of Democracy. Our Infante of Inspiration” OBAMA

    They didn’t have a clue we would not “fall in line”

    I never will.

  19. Thanks Norma Desmond. A lot of good people are doing a lot of work and fighting for what used to be core Democratic principles. Organize, Organize, Organize.

  20. Hey Admin..I was in NYC last week (got home Monday nite) ORGANIZING with 18Million…what a GREAT trip!

    And then to play a bit on Sunday out in the rain….

    actually ended up at a bar that HAPPENED to be the BIRTHPLACE of Thomas Paine…and where he died….

    couldn’t have scripted that one if I had tried!

  21. Hey Admin…I’ve been reading your site religiously but haven’t been commenting these last several months.
    I think you should contact PUMA and JustSayNoDeal. They are planning to protest in Denver and I think all of these pro-Hillary coalitions need to join together to make our voices even louder at the convention.

  22. found this on Tom In Paine blog
    http://www.tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-supporter-explains-it-all-to-us.html

    AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.

    MR: So tell me, what has Senator Obama ever accomplished that qualifies him to be President of the United States?

    OS: There you go again playing the old politics of the past.

    MR: So accomplishment is the old politics of the past?

    OS: Yes.

    MR: So the new politics, the one Senator Obama and you support and represent is that you don’t have to actually have done anything to be President.

    OS: Senator Obama represents hope.

    MR: Hope for what?

    OS: Hope.

    MR: Hope for hope?

    OS: Yes.

    MR: I see.

    OS: And Senator Obama represents change.

    MR: What kind of change? from what to what?

    OS: Just change.

    MR: But it has to be change from something to something. That’s what change is.

    OS: Senator Obama stands for a new change in Washington and a new change in politics, ejecting the old politics of the past.

    MR: The old politics where you had to actually accomplish something

    OS: Yes. And hope and change.

    MR: But you cant say what kind of hope and change

    OS: Not yet.

    MR: Why not?

    OS: He hasn’t told us yet.

    MR: Do you expect him to?

    OS: I don’t know.

    MR: What kind of change are we talking about?

    OS: A new beginning.

    MR: Wouldn’t anyone represent a new beginning after 8 years of Bush?

    OS: Not this kind of beginning.

    MR: And what kind of beginning is that?

    OS: A beginning of hope and change.

    MR: If Senator Obama represents change from the old politics why did he use an old Washington insider to vet his vice presidential candidates and then have to dump him because he was involved in shady loans deals?

    OS: You’re using that as a distraction.

    MR: What’s it distracting from?

    OS: Senator Obama’s message.

    MR: And what message is that?

    OS: Hope and change.

    MR: Senator Obama broke his pledge to finance his campaign with public money, something he promised during the primary. He went back on his word.

    OS: Sometimes you have to.

    MR:.Why?

    OS: To fight against the old politics of the past so he can do what the country needs.

    MR: And what’s that?

    OS: Bring hope and change.

    MR: Hope and change for what?

    OS: For what matters.

    MR: What matters?

    OS: Hope and change
    .
    MR: Okay, so what would be the single biggest change Senator Obama would accomplish if he were elected?

    OS: He’s African American.

    MR: That’s not an accomplishment that’s genetics.

    OS: You’re being divisive. That would be a big change.

    MR: But when the country elects the first black President
    shouldn’t it be because he or she is the best candidate
    and the fact that they are black be totally besides the
    point?

    OS: No. It’s about hope and change.

    MR: Is it hope for change or hope and change

    OS: Either one. It’s up to you. It’s all good.

    MR: So it doesn’t matter.

    OS: No. And he can unify people and bring them together. Help us over come the divisions that divide us.

    MR: Then why is the Democratic Party the most divided in its history with almost half the party against him and
    most refusing to vote for him?

    OS: Uneducated racist Clinton voters.

    MR: What flavor Kool-Aid is that?

    OS: Cherry.

  23. What has OBAMA done for AMERICANS lately??

    he has used race to win primaries

    he has trashed clintons.

    he has divided the dems.

    he has insulted women“sweetie“

    he has showed us “what arrogant means=obama“

    he has shown us the real meanings of SNOB,ELITIST,SIXIST,RACIST,SAME OLD POLITCIAN

    he has shown us ,how to copy speeches

    he has shown us “how to flip flop effectively

    he has shown us “how to make MSM his pet and keep them in his pocket `where his phone vibrates

    ha has shown us “why some americans r bitter “

    he has shown us what `a typical white person looks like

    he has shown us his greatest racist ever priests and friends

    he has shown us ——NO MORALS,NO VALUES,NO PRINCIPLES,NO CHARACTER,NO CLASS……

  24. Who’s next under the bus?

    1. Rep. Alice Palmer, 12/18/95
    2. Bill Clinton, 6/15/07
    3. New Hampshire Voters, 1/10/08
    4. Hillary Rodham Clinton, 1/12/08
    5. Black superdelegates, 2/15/08
    6. Louis Farrakhan, 2/26/08
    7. Austan Goolsbee, 3/3/08
    8. Samantha Power, 3/8/08
    9. Geraldine Ferraro, 3/11/08
    10. His grandmother, 3/18/08
    11. Michigan voters , 3/19/08
    12. Typical white persons, 3/20/08
    13. Asian supporters, 4/7/08
    14. Clingy, bitter Pennsylvanians , 4/11/08
    15. Rev. Wright , 4/29/08
    16. West Virginia voters , 5/9/08
    17. Kentucky voters , 5/16/08
    18. Father Pfleger , 5/29/08
    19. Democracy , 5/31/08
    20. His church , 6/1/08
    21. Roy LaVerne Brooks, 6/3/08 22. Tony Rezko , 6/3/08
    23. Bill Ayers , 6/9/2008
    24. Jim Johnson , 6/11/08
    25. Black fathers, 6/13/08
    26. Muslim women, 6/18/08
    27. Campaign-finance reform, 6/19/08
    28. Liberal blogosphere, 6/25/08
    19. Michael Klonsky, 6/26/08
    30. Gun control, 6/28/08
    31. Gen. Wes Clark, 6/30/08
    32. MoveOn.org, 6/30/08
    33. Welfare recipients, 7/1/08

  25. where is everyone
    djia
    dot
    kostener
    norma
    paul
    paula
    smkf
    neeta
    basil
    birdgal
    carby
    rg

    what happened guys

    so lonely here ……
    come on —

  26. Report: Christian Conservative Leaders Unite to Support McCain
    by FOXNews.com
    Thursday, July 3, 2008

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    In a seemingly symbolic move, 100 conservative Christian leaders agreed to unite behind the presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain at a meeting Tuesday in Denver, Colo., Time.com reports.

    McCain may have become the default choice for some of those leaders, who expressed doubt about presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. One guest present at the meeting said the motivation behind uniting and offering collective support was closely tied to a desire to defeat Obama.

    THANK LORD .ITS ABOUT TIME…

  27. MSNBC Gets Caught Cooking the Books, Has to Recant

    What do you do when you just can’t win your ratings time slot? Answer: Cook the books. That’s what MSNBC tried to do regarding “Hardball with Chris Matthews” and the 5:00pm slot:

    CNN and Fox News Channel both pointed out Tuesday that MSNBC included special coverage of Tim Russert’s death and memorial in its June data ratings for Hardball With Chris Matthews – prompting MSNBC to say it made an error.

    The flap was over a press release that MSNBC issued, based on Nielsen data, with the headline “MSNBC’s ‘Hardball’ No. 1 Among Adults in June at 5 p.m.”

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/d-s-hube/2008/07/03/msnbc-gets-caught-cooking-books-has-recant

  28. CNN Poll: Nader Garners 6 Percent of Vote

    Wednesday, July 2, 2008 5:48 PM
    By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size

    Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader received 6 percent of the vote in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Wednesday, bringing him closer to his goal of participating in the upcoming presidential debates.

    The CNN/ORC poll of registered voters shows Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in a statistical dead heat at 46 percent and 43 percent respectively, while Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr received 3 percent of the vote.

    Nader’s camp, who complains he isn’t given the same chance to promote his candidacy’s objectives as the other two major party’s presidential nominees, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., says he needs to poll nationally at about 10 percent to gain entry into the upcoming town hall debates, as well as the Google-sponsored internet debate set for Sept. 18 in New Orleans.

    Staffers working on behalf of Nader’s fifth run at the White House are convinced the perennial candidate could poll as high as 20 percent if allowed to take part in the debates.

    The Nader-Matt Gonzalez independent ticket plans to finish petitioning in at least 45 of the 50 states prior to the Sept. 18 debate.

    Campaign operatives working for the candidate and his running mate, Matt Gonzales — a politician, lawyer, and activist prominent in San Francisco politics — feel anything can happen once a three-way race between Obama, McCain and their candidate is established.

    At a news conference and campaign rally to be held Thursday in Hawaii, Nader will outline his party platform, which includes:

    A comprehensive, negotiated military and corporate withdrawal date from Iraq;

    A single-payer, Canadian-style, private delivery, free-choice public health insurance system for all;

    A living wage and repeal of the anti-union Taft-Hartley Act;

    A no-nuke, solar-based energy policy supported by renewable, sustainable, energy-efficient sources;

    A carbon tax to deter global warming;

    An end to the corporate welfare and corporate crime; and

    A more direct democracy that emphasizes people over corporations
    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cnn_poll_nader/2008/07/02/109439.html
    *****************************************************
    Ralph Nader need help to get his message out and get a debate started on those issues that use to be a concern for progressive DEMOCRATS.

    For those who can’t contemplate voting for McCain please help this man get access to promote his solutions to the American people.

  29. Nader’s VP “talking white” too?

    For the second time in two weeks, Ralph Nader has questioned Barack Obama for what he called his determination to “talk white” — because he’s apparently irked that the Democrat has failed to raise issues of poverty and joblessness of concern to African Americans.

    By that standard, perhaps Nader should be asked whether his Vice Presidential candidate, former San Francisco supervisor Matt Gonzalez, is also “talking white” by failing to raise issues related to Latino voters.

    San Francisco voters may remember issues raised in Gonzalez’ 2003 run for mayor: the Mexican-American candidate grew up in McAllen Texas, where his father was a division chief with the Brown & Williamson tobacco company, and also did business with maquiladoras — the border factories stocked by Mexican workers, who often in sweatshop conditions earn an average about $30 a week.

    Gonzalez’ uncle and godfather was also a high level official of Mexico’s ruling force for more than 70 years, the PRI or Partido Revolucionario Institucional; the independent VP candidate’s relative was the mayor of Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico — the city directly across the border from McAllen and a capital of the maquiladora industry.

    When Gonzalez ran for mayor of San Francisco, he was questioned about that at the Chronicle editorial board and asked why — though he advocated for higher wages for American workers in his own city — he didn’t exactly take up the cause of justice and activism on behalf of Mexican workers in his home turf.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=27657
    *****************************************************
    How easy to attack Latinos for questioning Obama’s opportunism and double speak but with Women and Latinos there is and additional nastiness that happens with the Obama campaign.

  30. Nader campaign: We’ll be on Nevada ballot
    Supporters of presidential candidate Ralph Nader announced they have collected more than 12,000 signatures, double the amount needed to put their candidate’s name on Nevada’s November ballot.

    Regional coordinator Dutch Merrick maintained Nader will not draw voters away from presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, but will receive support from new and frustrated voters of both major parties. Nader is running independently.

    http://www.lvrj.com/breaking_news/22868954.html
    ****************************************************
    Obama is TOAST he is NOT TRUSTWORTHY and the American voters don’t want to be a sucker this time. TOO much is at stake this time around and having a president who is this inexperience and will to pander (being polite) to evey voters instead of having a principle center that guides the leader of the free world is not a comfortable ideal.

    Vote for candidates that what the best for all Americans not just for power sake but to uplift ALL Americans and hold our values and principles as foundation.

  31. y’all are not going to believe this!!!……I’m PISSED!!

    I just got an email from my friend who runs the democrat party here in dickinson county iowa she wanted to let me know about
    the “voter drive” “for obama” that will be happening tomorrow ALL DAY LONG (july 4th) at Arnolds Park, Lake okoboji,Iowa

    right where i will be tomorrow all day long!! they plan to walk around the park and beach and amusement park and “TALK” to people about BHO and get them signed up and pledged to vote for BHO!!!!

    OH I AM SO PISSED!!…….why?? because its a holiday, a family day, people don’t go to the beach to be PREACHED at about anything political!!….I know i certainly do not!
    I can’t wait till one of those obots approaches me! I am going to give them a very LOUD earfull for all to hear!! I will SHOUT PUMA from the top of my lungs!!! 😀

  32. here’s the email……..complete with contact info……..please send them your love! 😀

    > The Obama Campaign will be doing voter contact on Friday July 4 in
    Arnold’s
    > Park as part of a National Day of Action. We will be talking with folks,
    > signing up supporters and volunteers, and filling out Absentee ballot
    > requests. This is a big day for the campaign all over the country and we
    > need your help right here in Dickinson County! It will be fun,
    interactive,
    > and can fit into the plans you already have for the 4th.
    >
    > Event details as follows:
    > -Meeting outside the Godfather’s Pizza in Arnolds Park at 3pm, 5pm and
    7pm.
    > -Raenee will have materials there for you.
    > -Canvass the crowds with us for as long as you’d like. Whoever signs up
    the
    > most volunteers will get a sweet prize and a shout-out on the campaign’s
    > conference call.
    >
    > Email or call Raenee (pronounced Rainy) with the time slot you’d like to
    > meet up for.
    >
    > YES WE CAN!
    > Raenee Bugarske
    > 715-572-7159
    > rbugarske@barackobama.com
    >

  33. Admin is right….organize organize organize…so what does that mean?
    the goal…..commit to the defeat of BHO..
    how…education, resources, peoplepower
    when..now until August and if necessary after
    who…you

    learn the message and talking points, understand your opposition, donate to groups sponsoring actions especially in th swing states, participate, participate, participate

    commit to talking with friends and family, commit to phone banking, commit to rallies, commit to leafleting, commit to neighborhood walking, commit to letters to the editor, emails to legislators…go to Denver, take it to the streets….

    visability is key…if you stand alone you have no power, join with fellow citizens and fight back.

    Trust me… “they” are doing this in a very BIG way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  34. KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE, KEEP YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER…

    I still get email from lefty groups, and this one from MoveOn promises to keep tabs on that Howwible, Howwible Man Wunning for Pwesident, John McCain. I signed up to get these email alerts, to keep tabs on the Obamabots. You can sign up too: here’s how:

    &&&&&&
    Dear MoveOn member,

    It’s become pretty clear that pundits love John McCain. “We’re his base,” MSNBC host Chris Matthews famously said. So if you’re looking for some, er, straight talk on Senator McCain—where’s a person to go?

    That’s why we’re launching McCain Watch—a zippy email with the presidential news you most need to know (but won’t hear elsewhere) about Senator McCain. The good folks at The Huffington Post will publish it and we’ll deliver it to your inbox. It’ll be fair, clear, and tough—the way news is supposed to be.

    Want to sign up? Just click here and we’ll add you to the list:

    pol.moveon.org/mccainwatch/o.pl?id=13078-1277844-u1D_lAx&t=1

    Thanks for all you do,

    –Nita Chaudhary, MoveOn.org Political Action

  35. rgb

    oh yea……..fair and balanced…. LOL!!!

    like huffpo and MSNBC have been all primary……..thanks but…NO THANKS!

    I will stick with this blog and noquarter for my fair,Accurate News 😀

  36. djia Says:
    July 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    y’all are not going to believe this!!!……I’m PISSED!!

    I just got an email from my friend who runs the democrat party here in dickinson county iowa she wanted to let me know about
    the “voter drive” “for obama” that will be happening tomorrow ALL DAY LONG (july 4th) at Arnolds Park, Lake okoboji,Iowa
    &&&&&&&

    Let me guess, they’ll be handing out free Kool-Aid???

    Your friend is probably under the illusion that this is a joyful way to celebrate patriotism and this festive holiday, by supporting this wonderful candidate who is going to be so good for our country.

    BARF.

    Probably too late to save your friend. Every single Obamabot is going to wake up one day with a bad hangover, and think, “What was I thinking???”. And Obama’s going to be in the bed next to them, and they’re going to be like, “(Ewww), Ummm, you’re going to have to leave, because I have to go the dentist, for a month, please leave. I have herpes, please leave now.”

    Witness Mr. DailyKos having a hissy fit about Obama not living up to his expectations. “Heavens to Betsy, he’s not a real liberal. He’s…he’s… a charlatan opportunist”.

    Yup, the Creature from the Chicago Sewers.

  37. this friend is the head the DNC party here in my county, so she is for who ever the Dem candidate is

    I believe she has always been more pro hillary

    and yes BARF!

  38. July 1, 2008 at 20:50:01

    Out Bushing Bush Didn’t Work for Gore or Kerry, Out McCaining McCain Won’t Work For Obama Either

    by earl ofari hutchinson Page 1 of 1 page(s)

    http://www.opednews.com

    Presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama thinks he’s found the right script to beat Republican rival John McCain. It’s simple. Steal a big page from the GOP script. That means backing FISA, chastising Moveon.org for impugning the conservatives’ notion of patriotism, reprimanding General Wesley Clark for maligning McCain, a mild saber rattle of Iran and Pakistan for promoting or harboring terrorists, and a deft pirouette on a full blown attack of the Patriot Act.

    In other words, try to out-McCain McCain on terrorism, national security and a military ramp-up. There’s nothing new in this. Bill Clinton was the first to snatch the tough talk on security and the military page from the GOP script. He even admitted in a candid moment that critics called this and other GOP friendly positions he took, Republican lite. But he was successful with it and figured other Democrats could be too.

    In countless speeches and private talks during the 2000 presidential campaign, Clinton sternly warned the Democrats that if they wanted to grab the White House they must seize the national security and defense issues from the Republicans. That meant doing and saying nothing that stirs public sensibilities and fears on the war on terrorism. It also meant trying to out-Bush Bush on his bread and butter issues of the war on terrorism and national security. Gore, and especially Kerry, took his advice to heart with disastrous results. After he got the nomination Kerry tried to strike the tough guy pose. He even said at one point that he’d launch preemptive strikes against terrorists wherever they were and that he would launch search and destroy missions to ferret out Osama and Al-Qaeda. That fooled absolutely no one.

    Countless polls showed that the voters repeatedly gave Bush huge percentage margins over Kerry when asked who they thought would do a better job in the anti-terror war. Kerry still didn’t get it. He kept slamming Bush as being, weak and ineffective in fighting terrorism. He touted his military credentials as a Vietnam combat vet to supposedly prove that he would and could be every bit, if not more, the hardliner on terrorism than Bush. If Kerry had looked at the polls much closer he would have seen what it really took to beat Bush. Those same polls which consistently showed that if the election came down solely to a referendum on who best to fight terrorism, Bush would beat him handily. But if it came down to the issue of who would manage the economy better, do better in boosting education, creating more jobs, providing affordable health care, and protecting civil rights and civil liberties, Kerry would have beaten Bush handily.

    Obama is following the same dubious script as Kerry did with even less credibility. He’s young, is a liberal Democrat. He has been viciously baited on the sound of his name, slandered and lied about as a Muslim, and pounded for allegedly not wearing an American flag in his lapel and not hoisting his hand to his heart when the national anthem is played. In the minds of many suspicious Americans, this types him as inherently questionable on being a stalwart tough guy on terrorism and national defense, and worse, unpatriotic. While questions about Obama’s patriotism are not an attack point for McCain””at least openly, his liberalism, judgment on defense and foreign policy matters are. In the fall, McCain will wave his credentials as Bush did as the man who you’d want to be in the driver’s seat if there is a terror attack. The not so subtle message is that Obama isn’t that man. The polls back up McCain on that claim. A Pew Research Center poll in June found that nearly half of Americans still say that Obama is not tough enough on national security and McCain is. But the same Pew poll also showed that while national security is important, voters still want the next president to focus more on solving domestic woes than foreign policy. That includes a majority of McCain backers. But the numbers that count the most right now to Obama are what the millions of voters think about McCain’s signature issue of national security concerns.

    Obama ‘s fist shaking on terrorism and national security, back flip votes on FISA, and issues involving military spending and security matters won’t do much to give him an edge in the battle against McCain. McCain and Bush have been at this game far longer than Obama. And the GOP still knows how to do it far better than any Democrat when the watchword is national security. This won’t stop Obama from following the worn script of trying to out-McCain McCain on the issue.

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Out-Bushing-Bush-Didn-t-Wo-by-earl-ofari-hutchin-080701-417.html
    *****************************************************
    This is why Democrats LOSE presidential races to the Republicans. This blatant disconnect regarding national defense. Now if you where to flip this to a local scale and campaign on a WE HATE THE MILITARY AND DON”T THINK CRIME IS VERY IMPORTANT…every politican would lose.

    Then with our form of government in which the President holds Commander in Chief responsibility…and bring it down to the local level in which a mayor of the city was also chief of police…you get more connected real quick with the voters and want they want.

    Obama problem is that he is sneaky and a liar…so his word means nothing because it is not followed up by his actions.

  39. dija,

    in organizing, there is no such thing as holidays…if anything that is prime time to find people at specific locations in large groups.
    As an organizer I rarely had a holiday off and ended up taking a day off later to make up for it.

    There will be a NON STOP ACTIVE campaign from now until NOvember to organize and get out the vote…

    the hiring for this is phenominal (going on right now full speed ahead)

    I see it everywhere because I am close to the organizations that are doing it. It’s what they do every election but in this case even moreso because BHO is likely to lose the swing states if they don’t.

  40. thanks god ,i saw u guys ,
    i swear ,i got little worried ,i haven,t blogged here for 4-5 days and so came to see to u guys,

    sorry idunn,curiosity,i miss you too .

    SO how is everyone here?

  41. Idunn Says:

    July 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    I’m not speaking to you since you left me off the list.

    How have u been?

  42. Except:

    The Republicans are also apparently nervous about Ed O’Reilly. They are glad to see he’s getting support against John Kerry, but he’s getting too much for their liking. I say that’s a very good thing. In fact, I encourage you to contribute to Ed’s campaign (as well as Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Sheila Jackson Lee), and help take down one of the principle players in the coup. The bottom line is the Republicans are ready to make a serious play on the Congress, and they would like to do it on our backs. It’s no secret that many of us are willing to support candidates opposing elected officials whose districts and states went to Clinton, but who endorsed Obama anyway, despite all the talk from party leaders about super delegates not overturning the “will of the people.” They want to use us, and we want to use them. This is going to be a delicate dance all the way through August and beyond.

    A final thought. The Republicans are VERY afraid of Hillary making a comeback…very afraid. They know that, if nominated, they will not be able to beat her. Every person, every party has a lever. Archimedes is reported to have said that with a lever, and a place to stand, he could move the entire world. We have the strength to move the lever. We just have to find the proper fulcrum.

    It’s a long way to Denver.

    camille424.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/guest-post-by-shtuey-3/

  43. Back to Story – Help
    Colombian President Boosts McCain Thu Jul 3, 12:50 PM ET

    The Nation — At least one world leader wants John McCain to be the next leader of the free world: President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia.

    While under fire from Democrats due to his government’s shoddy human rights record, Uribe warmly welcomed McCain to Colombia on Tuesday. McCain praised Uribe’s “substantial and positive” progress on human rights and reiterated his support for a US-Colombia free trade deal, which labor leaders and human rights activists strongly oppose.

    The day McCain left the Colombian government staged a dramatic rescue of 15 hostages, including three Americans.

    Nothing more than a fortuitous coincidence?

    The Bush Administration was involved in the planning of the rescue and provided unspecified “specific support,” according to the White House. McCain admitted that he was briefed about the raid the night before it occurred by Uribe and the Colombian defense minister. Yet he dismissed speculation that the rescue operation coincided with his visit. “There’s no way possible that it could have anything to do with our visit, that I could imagine,” McCain said on his way from Colombia to Mexico.

    Yet that didn’t stop McCain’s friends at Fox News from making a connection, citing McCain’s background as a POW in Vietnam. “There really might be a connection between the high-level visit of the former prisoner of war, John McCain himself, and the release now of three American prisoners here in southern Colombia,” said reporter Steve Harrigan.

    (Tightness with foreign leaders can sometimes be a sore-spot in US Presidential elections. Back in 2004 John Kerry made the rather obvious point that leaders around the world were rooting for him to defeat George W. Bush. Responded Dick Cheney: “At the very least, we have a right to know what he is saying to foreign leaders that makes them so supportive of his candidacy.”)

    Link or no link, the rescue operation certainly enhanced McCain’s stature as a “tough on terror” world leader. Political pundits were wondering why McCain decided to travel to Colombia in the first place. Now, thanks to Uribe, a potentially clumsy trip for McCain turned into a PR success.

    news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080703/cm_thenation/45334297&printer=1;_ylt=Ai7bC4lKxvauNcnflVWtTKc__8QF

  44. Djia, tell your friend that is doing the voters registration drive on July 4th that is so nice of her to do this for the candidate that wants to dismantle the United States and call it the North American Union. These people need to wake up!

  45. I’m here .. in a crazy mess with my house deal and totally ready to freak out!!!!

    and still NEVER voting for the WAFFLER.

    Or should I just call him the FLIPPER.

    He’s flip flopping, spinning, waffling so fast that he is going to explode

  46. Is anyone really surprised at Obama’s flip-flop on Iraq and the troops? McCain and the RNC will be all over it. Of course I thought he would at least wait until after the convention to do it, but I guess he feels it gives him and his handlers more time to come up with 101 reasons why it is not a flip-flop.. Hear that you dumb ass SD’s you crammed this ass down our throats, but it is not too late to reconsider which way you will vote in Denver!!

  47. notice B-HO flops right before a major holiday?. btw, wasn’t B-HO supposed to do one of his ” ‘l’ll meet you any time, anywhere” town hall debates with McCain july 4th? you remember, nicely planned while no-one is watching.

    chicken-shit.

  48. BHO is making it very easy to vote for McCain.

    He is backtracking and flipping on every single issue, he has ever spoken about. I don’t know, how he can keep anything straight.

  49. Will there be an even bigger flip-flop-flim-flam tomorrow? It will be a Friday, a major holiday, – perfect time for Obama to throw someone or an issue under the bus.

    The full Iraq flip-flop-flim-flam is yet to come. Watch out PINOs, you are being pushed under the bus slowly but surely.

    This one’s for you dot48, you named Obama’s new theme song:

    We call him flipper, flipper
    You’ll see him smiling.
    Right from the start he’ll play it smart
    Beware of flipper, flipper.

  50. obama blowup-media hammering him on flipping on iraq as he now says he will not adhere to timeline etc… from thepage.com-this is stupid and no excuse. people have got to be thinking-how in the hell can obama be “nominated.”

    In a second, quickly-scheduled press availability, the Senator insists his position on Iraq has not changed. Watch video above.

    “I intend to end this war… That position has not changed. I have not equivocated on that position. I am not searching for maneuvering room with respect to that position.”
    Though he also says:
    “I have always reserved the right to do what’s best for America’s national interest… I would be a poor commander-in-chief if I didn’t take facts on the ground into account.”

    McCain team responds: “Today, Barack Obama reversed (his) position, proving once again that his words do not matter. He has now adopted John McCain’s position….” Read full statement.

    Earlier: Obama tells reporters in North Dakota he plans a “a thorough assessment” of his Iraq policy during his coming visit to the country.

  51. hey, maybe someone could convince B-HO to take a ride in a tank while in iraq. bet he’d look real cool. real presidential. he could play army and dress-up like the big boys. wear a pretend uniform to go along with his pretend seal.

  52. 😀

    the gal that is running the “obama opperation” here as i posted above

    just called my house to ” ask for my vote for obama”

    😀 NOPE……..PUMA!!!

    2 seconds later the phone rings again same gal asking for my 19 year old son………..NOPE MC CAIN!
    I guess she wasn’t a happy camper after those two calls 😀

  53. Can Barack Buy the Presidency?
    By KARL ROVE
    July 3, 2008; Page A9

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121504274204624755.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    In my own opinion, the only thing BHO has is money. So far, BHO bought the un-Democratic party’s DNC and SD. I hope the deep trouble will happen only to DNC, not the country in November. If money indeed can buy Presidency, then this country is really in trouble. This Nov. (unless with a Denver revolution), I am voting Republican top-to-bottom to get the DNC out of my system.

  54. Flipper, boy, that brought back old memories.

    Alcina: BHO could have his own “Mission Accomplished” photo-op. What a scum bag.

  55. that (mission accomplished) will probably come out the day after the convention LOL!

    well, here in my neck of the woods we have fireworks tonight,tomorrow and saturday nights at 3 different lakes 😀

    so i am out of here for the evening!

    Happy 4th of July to all of you!!! hope you all have a great time!

  56. Fourth of July would be perfect venue to quiz BHO on basic U. S. Geography, History and Civics. Tell me who played the lead role in Yankee Doodle Dandy?

    Keep hearing how “brilliant” he is… Would love to be the one to hand him a fourth grade blank map – the kind with crayons at Denney’s and ask him to label the states AND capitals. Write a two-page essay on “Why I Am Proud To Be An American” without mentioning your biography AT ALL. Okay, one page. Well, a paragraph?

    How about the test given to immigrants applying for citizenship? Better yet, ace all the standardized tests given to juniors in high school in the U.S before they can graduate – math and science especially.

    Since he’s “the Constitutional Law Professor,” and former President of the Harvard Law Review (oop-oop-e-doo) should be able to complete in record time. Why, he ought to be a regular walking encyclopedia and altas rolled into one.

    He could finish with singing the complete lyrics of the Star Spangled Banner correctly (he finds the lyrics offensive?), God Bless America, and end his triathalon with reciting the preamble to the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

    Uh, uh, ummm,,, ah…stutter, stammer, ah, uh, umm…uh that’s uh…where’s my teleprompter? I give up. Uncle! Uncle Teddy……. Uncle Jeremiah…..get me outa this.

  57. In all fairness, students today (and for some time) have not been required to know, learn or memorize any ot these AMERICAN facts, either.

    That’s one main reason the younger people have no problem with UNPATRIOTIC BHO -jeez – they don’t know any of this and couldn’t care less.

    But all the old Marxist geezers – what’s their excuse? Maybe they slept through class too eons ago and don’t understand the nature of history. IT TENDS TO REPEAT ITSELF. The Greeks, Romans, British all though their empires would last forever, too. Communism may provide the bare mimimum if you’re lucky, but you HAVE NO VOICE – sort of like things are becoming in the United States in the past six months.

    So, next time we gander at Old Glory, think about the teacher that taught history and geography and remember their passion (not the coach who put you to sleep). If you don’t have a veteran relative or friend, salute the flag for them. Yeah, you too, BHO.

    Which brings me to why BHO and his legions of robotic morons should scare the ever lovin’ hell out of everyone of us.

  58. thepage says gov crist is getting married! for many yrs in fl poltitics many said he was gay. it was an issue when he ran for guv. is he getting married to be mccain’s vp?

  59. abortion under the bus?
    Jul 3, 6:01 PM (ET)

    By JIM KUHNHENN

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says “mental distress” should not qualify as a health exception for late term-abortions, a key distinction not embraced by many supporters of abortion rights.

    In an interview this week with “Relevant,” a Christian magazine, Obama said prohibitions on late-term abortions must contain “a strict, well defined exception for the health of the mother.”

    Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”

    Last year, after the Supreme Court upheld a federal ban on late-term abortions, Obama said he “strongly disagreed” with the ruling because it “dramatically departs form previous precedents safeguarding the health of pregnant women.”

    The health care exception is crucial to abortion rights advocates and is considered a legal loophole by abortion opponents. By limiting the health exception to a “serious physical issue,” Obama set himself apart from other abortion rights proponents.

    The official position of NARAL Pro-Choice America, the abortion rights group that endorsed Obama in May, states: “A health exception must also account for the mental health problems that may occur in pregnancy. Severe fetal anomalies, for example, can exact a tremendous emotional toll on a pregnant woman and her family.”

    The 1973 landmark abortion case, Roe v. Wade, established a right to an abortion, and a concurrent case, Doe v. Bolton, established that medical judgments about the need for an abortion could include physical, emotional and psychological health factors.

    “Senator Obama has consistently maintained that laws restricting abortions must contain exceptions for the health and life of the mother,” Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said Thursday. “Obviously, as he stated in the interview, he has consistently believed those exceptions should be clear and limited enough to ensure that they don’t undermine the prohibition on late-term abortions.”

    In a statement, NARAL Pro-Choice said Obama’s magazine interview is consistent with Roe v. Wade.

    “Sen. Obama has consistently said he supports the tenets set forth by Roe, and has made strong statements against President Bush’s Federal Abortion Ban, which does not have an exception to protect a woman’s health,” the organization’s statement said.

    A leading abortion opponent, however, said Obama’s rhetoric does not match his voting record and his previously stated views on abortion rights.

    David N. O’Steen, the executive director of National Right to Life, said Obama’s remarks to the magazine “are either quite disingenuous or they reflect that Obama does not know what he is talking about.”

    “You cannot believe that abortion should not be allowed for mental health reasons and support Roe v Wade,” O’Steen said.

    In the interview with Relevant, conducted on Tuesday, Obama also defended his opposition to restrictions on induced abortions where the fetus sometimes survives for short periods. Obama voted against such a bill when he was in the Illinois Senate. He has said he supported a federal version of the law that contained more specific language because he feared the Illinois proposal would have applied to all abortions.

    “There was a bill that came up in Illinois that was called the ‘Born Alive’ bill that purported to require life-saving treatment to such infants. And I did vote against that bill,” Obama said Tuesday. “The reason was that there was already a law in place in Illinois that said that you always have to supply life-saving treatment to any infant under any circumstances, and this bill actually was designed to overturn Roe v. Wade, so I didn’t think it was going to pass constitutional muster.”

  60. Lindax, is Karl Rove reading Big Pink?

    We wrote on June 27 at http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=666 (yup, it was our 666 post):

    “Barack Obama thinks he can become president if he raises enough money.”

    Today, Karl Rove writes (the article you linked to: “Can Barack Buy the Presidency?”

  61. damn that bus just keeps getting longer and longer. How freaking long do they make those buses anyways.

    This is what I’ve been waiting on. Bring it on and bring on more. I can’t wait to see Flipper on the bottom of the ocean. He is unqualified to even be a senator.

  62. If Rove and Co are smart they read Big Pink. They practically quote Big Pinks coverage of Rezco so I’d say they are fully aware.

  63. damn that bus just keeps getting longer and longer. How freaking long do they make those buses anyways.

    World’s Longest Bus
    spluch.blogspot.com/2007/03/world-longest-bus.html

  64. Pretty soon, BHO, will sound just like McCain regarding abortion rights. Then, the democratic? party will not have anything to throw in our faces, or use to blackmail PUMAs.

  65. Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”

    This statement displays, his absolute ignorance regarding the state of maternal health, and the well-being of a fetus. Studies have shown, that maternal distress can have negative effects upon the growth and development of a fetus. In addition, if a mother is not receiving adequate nutrition, and/or not caring for herself, the fetus can be affected negatively by these issues. Mental distress most definitely qualifies as an indicator of the health of the mother, and affect the mother’s ability to carry a child to term. This really, really irritates me. So, intrauterine growth retardation, low birth weight, increase risk of miscarriages, and other maternal stress do not qualify as “real, significant problems to the mothercarrying that child to term? Wow. My nursing education and clinical experience must have been a hallucination and a delusion. This guy is assinine.

  66. Hi everyone.
    Contractors just left and will be back TOMORROW! i read everything on forum but don’t have time to respond as I’d like.

    Miss that 😥

    Anyway, here’s a VERY funny bit from an NQ poster.

    AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.
    MR: So tell me, what has Senator Obama ever accomplished that qualifies him to be President of the United States?
    OS: There you go again playing the old politics of the past.
    MR: So accomplishment is the old politics of the past?
    OS: Yes.
    MR: So the new politics, the one Senator Obama and you support and represent is that you don’t have to actually have done anything to be President.
    OS: Senator Obama represents hope.
    MR: Hope for what?
    OS: Hope.
    MR: Hope for hope?
    OS: Yes.
    MR: I see.
    OS: And Senator Obama represents change.
    MR: What kind of change? from what to what?
    OS: Just change.
    MR: But it has to be change from something to something. That’s what change is.
    OS: Senator Obama stands for a new change in Washington and a new change in politics, ejecting the old politics of the past.
    MR: The old politics where you had to actually accomplish something
    OS: Yes. And hope and change.
    MR: But you cant say what kind of hope and change
    OS: Not yet.
    MR: Why not?
    OS: He hasn’t told us yet.
    MR: Do you expect him to?
    OS: I don’t know.
    MR: What kind of change are we talking about?
    OS: A new beginning.
    MR: Wouldn’t anyone represent a new beginning after 8 years of Bush?
    OS: Not this kind of beginning.
    MR: And what kind of beginning is that?
    OS: A beginning of hope and change.
    MR: If Senator Obama represents change from the old politics why did he use an old Washington insider to vet his vice presidential candidates and then have to dump him because he was involved in shady loans deals?
    OS: You’re using that as a distraction.
    MR: What’s it distracting from?
    OS: Senator Obama’s message.
    MR: And what message is that?
    OS: Hope and change.
    MR: Senator Obama broke his pledge to finance his campaign with public money, something he promised during the primary. He went back on his word.
    OS: Sometimes you have to.
    MR:.Why?
    OS: To fight against the old politics of the past so he can do what the country needs.
    MR: And what’s that?
    OS: Bring hope and change.
    MR: Hope and change for what?
    OS: For what matters.
    MR: What matters?
    OS: Hope and change
    .
    MR: Okay, so what would be the single biggest change Senator Obama would accomplish if he were elected?
    OS: He’s African American.
    MR: That’s not an accomplishment that’s genetics.
    OS: You’re being divisive. That would be a big change.
    MR: But when the country elects the first black President
    shouldn’t it be because he or she is the best candidate
    and the fact that they are black be totally besides the
    point?
    OS: No. It’s about hope and change.
    MR: Is it hope for change or hope and change
    OS: Either one. It’s up to you. It’s all good.
    MR: So it doesn’t matter.
    OS: No. And he can unify people and bring them together. Help us over come the divisions that divide us.
    MR: Then why is the Democratic Party the most divided in its history with almost half the party against him and
    most refusing to vote for him?
    OS: Uneducated racist Clinton voters.
    MR: What flavor Kool-Aid is that?
    OS: Cherry

  67. AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.
    MR: So tell me, what has Senator Obama ever accomplished that qualifies him to be President of the United States?
    OS: There you go again playing the old politics of the past.
    MR: So accomplishment is the old politics of the past?
    OS: Yes.
    MR: So the new politics, the one Senator Obama and you support and represent is that you don’t have to actually have done anything to be President.
    OS: Senator Obama represents hope.
    MR: Hope for what?
    OS: Hope.
    MR: Hope for hope?
    OS: Yes.
    MR: I see.
    OS: And Senator Obama represents change.
    MR: What kind of change? from what to what?
    OS: Just change.
    MR: But it has to be change from something to something. That’s what change is.
    OS: Senator Obama stands for a new change in Washington and a new change in politics, ejecting the old politics of the past.
    MR: The old politics where you had to actually accomplish something
    OS: Yes. And hope and change.
    MR: But you cant say what kind of hope and change
    OS: Not yet.
    MR: Why not?
    OS: He hasn’t told us yet.
    MR: Do you expect him to?
    OS: I don’t know.
    MR: What kind of change are we talking about?
    OS: A new beginning.
    MR: Wouldn’t anyone represent a new beginning after 8 years of Bush?
    OS: Not this kind of beginning.
    MR: And what kind of beginning is that?
    OS: A beginning of hope and change.
    MR: If Senator Obama represents change from the old politics why did he use an old Washington insider to vet his vice presidential candidates and then have to dump him because he was involved in shady loans deals?
    OS: You’re using that as a distraction.
    MR: What’s it distracting from?
    OS: Senator Obama’s message.
    MR: And what message is that?
    OS: Hope and change.
    MR: Senator Obama broke his pledge to finance his campaign with public money, something he promised during the primary. He went back on his word.
    OS: Sometimes you have to.
    MR:.Why?
    OS: To fight against the old politics of the past so he can do what the country needs.
    MR: And what’s that?
    OS: Bring hope and change.
    MR: Hope and change for what?
    OS: For what matters.
    MR: What matters?
    OS: Hope and change
    .
    MR: Okay, so what would be the single biggest change Senator Obama would accomplish if he were elected?
    OS: He’s African American.
    MR: That’s not an accomplishment that’s genetics.
    OS: You’re being divisive. That would be a big change.
    MR: But when the country elects the first black President
    shouldn’t it be because he or she is the best candidate
    and the fact that they are black be totally besides the
    point?
    OS: No. It’s about hope and change.
    MR: Is it hope for change or hope and change
    OS: Either one. It’s up to you. It’s all good.
    MR: So it doesn’t matter.
    OS: No. And he can unify people and bring them together. Help us over come the divisions that divide us.
    MR: Then why is the Democratic Party the most divided in its history with almost half the party against him and
    most refusing to vote for him?
    OS: Uneducated racist Clinton voters.
    MR: What flavor Kool-Aid is that?
    OS: Cherry

  68. A guide and set of links for donating to Senator Clinton and other progressive pols and causes

    heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/guide-and-set-of-links-for-donating-to.html

  69. Date: July 04, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
    Amount: $20.08

    Since I won’t be home most of tomorrow, I figured it was best to donate to Hillary tonight right after midnight.

    Happy Independence Day everyone!

  70. Hi. I’ve lurked here for a long time, but have never been able to get a comment through. Hopefully, this one will make it.

    Heidi Li is terrific and I appreciate all her work on behalf of Hillary. I’ll be donating to Hill through her website tomorrow.

    Since she is being mentioned here, I hope everyone also knows about a new organization she co-founded called The Denver Group dedicated to having an open convention with Hillary’s name on the ballot. They just had a radio interview broadcast on NoQ today. http://www.thedenvergroup.blogspot.com.

    I hope you will check them out. Please pardon my dust if you’re already all over this!

    Have a lovely 4th everyone!!

  71. h t t p : / / http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/have_we_seen_the_end_of_twopar.html

    But while Senator McCain has solid conservative credentials in practice and on paper, his willingness and ability to reach across the aisle have made some on the right suspicious of his true motives. His nomination steers the RNC toward a more centrist place than it’s been since Richard Nixon was the nominee.

    Should Senator McCain capture the White House, his presidency and control of the party could leave social conservatives, who comprise about a third of the party, on the outside looking in. [….]

    Dedicated Republicans have long been accused of being unwavering ideologues, willing to lose on principle rather than win on compromise. A John McCain presidency would radically shift that dynamic, if he follows \ the bipartisan method he used in the Senate.

    If you want to comment on this article, here is the url for comments. It has 111 posts. It says some very silly things about HIllary and the Dems.
    h t t p : / / comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/54744.html#REPLY

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  72. Have to admit that, after watching the Republicans screw themselves with losing their conservatism and eating crow, I actually find myself caught in political “purgatory.”

    Just like the Republicans found that Hillary might not be so bad after all (considering the AntiChrist being stuffed down our throats), I have actually missed Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly while on vacation. Did I just say that? I know, I know, they’ll turn on HRC again in a nano-second. Even Dick Morris makes sense when going after BHO (if he’d just bury the hatchet somewhere else besides the Clinton’s backs).

    Starved for HRC sensible nature and soundbites, I now settle for pro-HRC and anti-BHO sites, and hearing some common sense out of Newt, Sean, Rush, Bill, and yes – even Karl Rove. I know, I know, I’m not supposed to let my guard down even a little bit. Maybe this is my way of finding “common ground” with them – you see, they don’t really like or won’t their nominee (McCain) either. They also know, however, an Anti-Christ when they see one.

    Well, anyway…such a STRANGE election season. Still trying to make lemonade out of lemons, I’m telling myself that Political Purgatory is where I need to be right now. Speaking of FAIRY TALES, I’ve convinced myself for the time being that being “here” is like Goldilocks – not too hot, not too cold, but for the time being it’s just right.

    Still believe that HRC could make it happily ever after.

  73. Curiosity: its the old enemy of my enemy is my friend syndrome. The most engaging part of it is they look at him as a dangerous fool just like we do rather than as the Second Coming like msnbc does– which makes you want to steal the barf bags out of airplanes. (P.S. and what rough beast its hour come round at last slouches its way to Bethleham to be borne).

  74. Please Feel Free To Excerpt & Link To The Following Article. However, republishing of the article without permission is prohibited.**

    As GOP attacks mount on the issue of Senator Obama’s ties to Political Action Committees and Lobbyists, Obama’s campaign has undergone little scrutiny on his long-standing ties to the financial and banking community. In Obama’s speeches across the country he has repeatedly criticized the Bush administration for allowing “evil” subprime mortgage lenders and investment banks to lead this county into our current mortgage meltdown. Obama’s rhetoric on the mortgage crisis has been pointed and blunt, as stated on his own campaign website, “Obama will crack down on fraudulent brokers and lenders…Obama has been closely monitoring the subprime mortgage situation for years, and introduced comprehensive legislation over a year ago to fight mortgage fraud and protect consumers against abusive lending practices”.

    Throughout the campaign season Obama has attacked Wall Street’s financial sector and ran a campaign based largely upon his “good judgement”. The problem with Obama’s rhetoric rests in the fact that tucked away in his database of 1.5 million donors are the approximately 130,000 power brokers that have funded nearly 60% of his campaign. Included in this list are the more than 350 campaign bundlers who have accounted for over $78 million in contributions.

    Among those campaign bundlers is Paul Roth, a partner at Schulte, Roth & Zabel, a firm that represents financial institutions including investment banks, securities firms, and hedge funds. Roth not only contributed to Obama’s campaign but also helped to “bundle” more than $50,000 for the Senator. The Obama bundler rolls also include Tom Wheeler, the managing director of Core Capital Partners, a Washington based private equity fund, have helped raise more than $100,000 for the Obama Campaign.

    The real problem for Obama extends well beyond his campaign bundlers that include several prominent lobby–representing attorney’s and executives such as Frank Clark, the CEO of Commonwealth Edison. Executives across the financial and investment industry have accounted for millions in campaign contributions.

    In San Antonia this past February Obama stated in a campaign speech, “To give you a sense of what that kind of lobbying gets you… the CEO of the largest subprime lender was promised a hundred-million-dollar severance package at a time when more than 2 million Americans were facing foreclosure, including nearly 14,000 right here in San Antonio…” Obama was most likely referring to an Angelo R. Mozillo, one of three CEO’s that were scheduled to appear to testify in front of a senate committee concerning their compensation and firms roles in the ongoing mortgage crisis. Stanley O’Neal, who received more than $161 million when he was ousted as the Chairman of Merrill Lynch, was one of the three CEO’s coming under scrutiny. In 2003, O’Neil donated to Senator Obama’s Senatorial campaign, followed up by a maximum $4,600 campaign contribution by he and his wife, Nancy Garvey, to the Obama Campaign. Ironically, the O’Neals tried to originally contribute $6,900 to the campaign only to have $2,300 returned.

    O’Neil, Mozillo, and Charles Price have been branded the “poster-child” CEOs of the financial firms responsible for the mortgage meltdown and at least one of the three was a valuable contributor to the Obama campaign.

    Also contributing to Obama’s cause is the more controversial Brad Morrice, the former CEO and President of the imploded subprime lender, New Century Financial. Morrice and his wife contributed the maximum $4,600 to Obama’s campaign last August.

    Obama has also accepted campaign contributions from dozens of Lehman Brothers Executives, such as CEO Richard Fuld ($2,300), President Joseph Gregory ($4,600) and dozens of other top Lehman Executives. On June 19th, Lehman shareholders filed suit against Fuld and Gregory for the company’s exposure in the subprime market.

    Among other subprime contributors to Obama’s campaign are Steve Boland, a managing director at Countrywide, who donated the maximum last June. Andrew Beer the president of Wachovia’s troubled subprime lender Evergreen Investment Partners also maxed out his contribution to the Obama campaign; and Joseph Azrack, the president of Citigroup Property Investments along with dozens of Citi Executives have heavily contributed.

    In 2007 Eric Schwartz, the co-head of Goldman-Sachs Global Asset Management abruptly stepped down from is position, fueling rumors that his resignation was tied to a crumbling Global Alpha Hedge Fund. The Fund’s mounting losses led to a -39% performance last year as the fund assets shrunk by 60%. Shwartz, an Obama bundler and contributor, has helped to raise over $50,000 for the Senator’s Campaign.

    In 2007 Robert Wolf, the CEO of UBS Americas, helped the Obama campaign raise more than $200,000. That amount was equaled by Louis Susman, the Chairman of a Citibank Subsidiary. Joining their efforts was Mark Gilbert, a Senior Vice President of Lehman Brothers.

    Additional High Profile Financial Executives Include:

    Richard Leweke – Vice Chairman of Washington Mutual Card Services
    Seth Waugh – CEO of Deutsche Bank
    Charles Lewis – Vice Chairman of Merrill Lynch
    Theodore Janulis – Bundler (over $50,000) & Lehman Brothers Head of Global Mortgages
    Francisco Borges – Bundler (over $50,000) and Chairman of Landmark Partners a private equity real estate firm.
    Nadja Fidelia – Bundler (over $50,000) & Managing Director of Lehman brothers
    Michael Froman – Bundler (over $50,000) & Managing Director of Citigroup
    David Heller – Bundler (over $200,000) & Managing Director of Goldman Sachs
    John Rhea – Bundler & Co-head of Lehman Brothers Global Investment Banking
    J. Michael Schell – Bundler (over $100,000) & Managing Director at Citigroup
    Jim Torrey – Bundler (over $200,000) and founder of the Torrey Funds – Hedge Funds
    Todd Williams – Bundler (over $50,000) & Managing Director Goldman Sachs & The Real Estate Council

    The listing of contributions flowing in from Financial Institutions through Senator Obama’s career is short of amazing. There are currently dozens upon dozens of Senior Vice Presidents, Managing Directors, and other top level executives from firms such as Lehman Brothers, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, UBS, Deutsche Bank, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and other high profile Wall Street banks and funds mired in the mortgage meltdown.

    Obama has been relentless in his attacks upon the “evil” Wall Street executives that he has blamed for the ongoing fallout from the mortgage crisis, positioning himself on a “moral high ground”. The reality is that while Obama has been slapping the mortgage companies and investment banks with one hand, he has had his other hand in their wallet.

    Jarid Brown
    Politically Drunk On Power
    http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/
    ________________________________________
    Not Bambi surely. Mr. I do not accept money from WASHINGTON D C lobbyists. Just legions of small donors. Compared to what? Oh, sure, George Soros. We now know how he first made his money.

  75. Contribution Details
    Date: July 04, 2008 5:23 AM EDT
    Contact: Alcina
    Amount: $20.08

    happy fourth of july to my favorite patriot and champion hillary rodham clinton.

  76. h t t p : / / http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/have_we_seen_the_end_of_twopar.html

    But while Senator McCain has solid conservative credentials in practice and on paper, his willingness and ability to reach across the aisle have made some on the right suspicious of his true motives. His nomination steers the RNC toward a more centrist place than it’s been since Richard Nixon was the nominee.

    Should Senator McCain capture the White House, his presidency and control of the party could leave social conservatives, who comprise about a third of the party, on the outside looking in. [….]

    Dedicated Republicans have long been accused of being unwavering ideologues, willing to lose on principle rather than win on compromise. A John McCain presidency would radically shift that dynamic, if he follows \ the bipartisan method he used in the Senate.

    If you want to comment on this article, here is the url for comments. It has 111 posts. It says some very silly things about HIllary and the Dems.
    h t t p : / / comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/54744.html#REPLY

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  77. wbboei Says:
    July 4th, 2008 at 2:02 am

    Happy July 4 to everyone who is still awake and sober, present company excluded.

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    :-))))))))))

  78. HAPPY Independence Day!

    Bitter Folk Clinging to their Guns and Bibles video. -D

    countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/barack-this-ones-for-you/#comment-211

  79. Obama’s Sexism Continued:

    Obama yesterday told reporters on his campaign plane that he, indeed, supported mental-health exceptions. Such exceptions were acceptable so long as they were for clinically-diagnosed conditions, he indicated.

    What he did not support was the idea of exceptions that would allow late-term abortions based on “mental distress.” “It is not just a matter of feeling blue,” Obama said.

    Not just a matter of “feeling blue” Obama’s undertanding of mental health is benighted by his blatant women-hating.

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