Voting For Barack Obama, Part VI

Obama supporters are packing extra Hopium in their hookahs lately. They need it. Obama supporters are learning what we have known since our very first day of publication through to today:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

We were going to write today about Obama stabbing his DailyKook friends in the back on FISA. Obama’s FISA flip-flop-flim-flam however will come to final fruition later today – if Obama bothers to even vote on the FISA bill (he avoided the FISA votes on Wednesday).

Instead today we’ll discuss Obama’s latest flip-flop-flim-flam about guns which leads to questions about potential Supreme Court appointments.

The Supremes hand McCain and the NRA a nice issue on which to portray Obama as a flip-flopper in some of those sportsmen-heavy Rust Belt states.

Obama’s camp is trying to walk it back now, but last year he said he supported the D.C. gun ban, from which this decision arose.

Obama is doing his usual flip-flop-flim-flam on guns because it is a potent issue.

In a landmark decision that returns the gun control debate to the forefront of the presidential race, the Supreme Court on Thursday overturned the District of Columbia’s restrictive ban on handguns and declared for the first time an individual right to possess a gun.

The D.C. gun ban had prohibited residents from keeping handguns inside their homes and required legal guns like hunting rifles to be registered and kept unloaded in a locked area. [snip]

“This issue is a big fat wedge in target states,” said Matt McDonald, a senior adviser to McCain, citing Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and West Virginia. “Obviously it is an issue where he is at odds with working-class voters.”

In the long term, McDonald said the McCain campaign planned to highlight Obama’s past stances on gun issues to “fit into the narrative that we are looking at for Barack Obama: one, that is he coreless and, two, he’s unwilling to stand up for issues that risk his political future.”

Obama supporters and superdelegates should be proud of their man Obama. Obama was not caught flatfooted on the gun issue. Even before the Supreme Court issued it’s ruling Obama was already doing his flip-flop-flim-flam.

The Obama campaign, getting ready for an expected Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of Washington, D.C.’s gun control legislation, reverses a statement it put out last year that the ban was constitutional.

(The campaign now describes the statement as “inartful,” but it wasn’t ambiguous: “Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional.”)

Good ol’ Obama. Obama’s “new” politics are the old flip-flop-flim-flam we Democrats have, in some orange quarters, grown so used to.

What was Obama’s gun position hours ago, years ago, minutes ago, seconds ago, months ago, in the last interview, in the interview before last, in interviews yet to air?

Obama’s camp, walking back an earlier statement that the D.C. gun ban was constitutional, said it was “inartful” and didn’t reflect his views.

But a colleague points out that Obama took a question about the constitutionality of the gun ban from WJLA’s Leon Harris during the Potomac Primary, and didn’t dispute the characterization that he believes the ban is constitutional.

Here’s the exchange:

LH: One other issue that is of great importance to the people of the district here, is gun control. You said in Idaho here, recently, that “I have no intention of taking away folks’ guns.” But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you’ve said that it’s constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?

BO: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it’s important for us to recognize that we’ve got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of people – law-abiding citizens use if for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets, we are going to trace more effectively, how these guns are ending up on the streets, to unscrupulous gun dealers, who often times are selling to straw purchasers. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. Those are all approaches that I think the average gun owner would actually support. The problem is, that we’ve got a position, often times by the NRA that says any regulation whatsoever is the camel’s nose under the tent. And that, I think, is not where the American people are at. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people’s traditions.

Can anyone make any sense of Obama’s answer? It’s a flim-flam answer typical of the flim-flam politician of the day.

The Obama campaign distanced itself Thursday from a statement made last year to the Chicago Tribune that “Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional.” Spokesman Bill Burton said that the statement “was not worded as well as it could have been” and that Obama believes that generally the Constitution “doesn’t prevent local and state governments from enacting their own gun laws.”

Notice the flam in Obama’s flim. Notice how Obama changes the topic. Obama issues a statement which says nothing on the issue, does not inform Americans at all about Obama’s position or lack of position. Obama merely, as usual, changes the subject.

In regard to Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling, the Obama campaign released a statement saying, “As president, Barack Obama will continue to respect the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun owners, and for voters who have concerns about this issue, they will find real comfort in Sen. Obama’s record. But when it comes to health care and energy and other economic issues that many gun owners care about, Barack Obama offers a fundamental change, while John McCain offers more of the same.”

Translation of the Obama statement: You can trust on on health care, energy, economic issues about as much as you can trust us on gun issues – NOT AT ALL.

Will Obama seek a constitutional amendment to reverse the Supreme Court ruling? Will Obama swear to uphold the ruling and protect it? Who knows? The only thing we know about Obama is:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

Will an Obama as (ugh) President appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn today’s ruling? Will an Obama as (ugh) President appoint Supreme Court justices who will uphold today’s Supreme Court ruling? Who knows? The only thing we know about Obama is

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

We know that Obama thinks small town America is bitter and clings to God and guns because of that bitterness. For Americans that support gun controls, for Americans that oppose gun control, for Americans that are bitter, for Americans that are sweet – this is only one thing you need to know about Obama:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

Obama’s flip-flop-flim-flam is of long standing. If you can rely on anything from Obama is that he is a flip-flop-flim-flam man who will stab anyone in the back, thrown any and all friends and positions under the bus and that he is reliable only in his lack of trustworthiness.

During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat.

Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he “never saw or approved” the questionnaire.

They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who “unintentionally mischaracterize[d] his position.”

But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago nonprofit group that issued it. And it found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer.

As the Politico article so artfully stated: the questionnaires provide fodder to question Obama’s ideological consistency and electability.

The McCain campaign, like Hillary supporters with nose plugs which interfere with the inhalation of second-hand Hopium smoke, has noticed Obama cannot be trusted.

The Obama internet dens of Hopium will one day put their hookahs aside and realize their lives have gone down the rabbit hole.

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.


162 thoughts on “Voting For Barack Obama, Part VI

  1. from the previous article as it relates to this article here (which i am still reading 😀 )

    McCain, GOP unleash anti-Obama plan

    By JONATHAN MARTIN | 6/26/08 12:41 PM EST

    Republicans might have a reason to smile: John McCain and his allies seem to have finally settled on a way to draw a stark contrast with Barack Obama.

    After weeks of criticism from Republicans about the leisurely pace at which they seemed to be preparing for the general election, McCain’s campaign has apparently settled on a highly personal campaign theme that aims to differentiate McCain and Obama on both character and issues.

    The strategy: Paint Obama as conventional politician who always takes the safe and easy political road, then amplify the distinction by framing McCain as a patriot, somebody who has put sacrifice above self.

    It’s seemingly an effort by McCain to remind voters of his Vietnam-era heroism and compelling life story while touching on key issues to avoid running purely on biography. The message also is designed to underline McCain’s unique record of service to his country without touching on subterranean questions about Obama’s patriotism.

    Whether it will work — or if the famously improvisational McCain will even stick to it — is an open question.

    But it is finally clear that McCain and many of his allies — including Karl Rove and Mitt Romney — are finally working in unison to push one message, and push it aggressively.

    In a memo sent to reporters Thursday morning headlined, “Country First Vs. Self-Serving Partisanship,” McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt traces an unbroken line from the physical courage McCain demonstrated in the Hanoi Hilton to the political bravery his supporters say he demonstrated on Capitol Hill.

    to finish reading this 2 page article:

  2. Obama INSULTS my INTELLIGENCE as a AMERICAN. Obama believes he can become POTUS without having to take a STAND on anything…just become KING OBAMA and change OUR country laws and traditions to suit his personal goals because they is not TRUST that he believes in any issues…since he has only preached OBAMALAND is wonderful and beautiful and only those who will “KISS MY ASS” and “KISS MY FEET” is allowed the perks and piviledge of full second class citizenship.

  3. Obama Hardly A “Hollywood Candidate” — And Not Necessarily Sumner Redstone’s

    News reports say Barack Obama raised nearly $5 million at yesterday’s celebrity- and mogul-packed fundraiser at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. The asking price for a ticket to the gala’s general reception for Obama’s campaign was $2,300.

    Tickets to the VIP dinner were $28,500 for the Democratic National Committee. The Center for Responsive Politics, analyzing fundraising data released May 21, said Obama had collected more than $4 million from the movie, TV and music businesses. (Clinton raised $3.4 million from showbiz, and McCain collected $636,000.) So far, for the 2008 election cycle, the entertainment industry has donated a total $22.4 million with 76% going to Democrats.

    But that only ranks 10th among biggest sector donors to the Democrats. In turn, Obama can hardly be called the “Hollywood candidate” since only one showbiz company appears among the biggest donors on his money web charted by the Center For Responsive Politics. Which one? Surprisingly, National Amusements Inc, which is privately held by Sumner Redstone (80%) and his daughter Shari Redstone (20%).

    A Viacom insider explains: “They (CFRP) roll up everyone who donates from CBS or Viacom under National Amusements because it is the controlling shareholder. It’s a very imprecise survey.” Redstone himself gave to Hillary Clinton and Rudy Guiliani — not to Obama (yet). Here’s the graphic:

  4. We live in a country where form over substance is the reality. At no other time would an empty suit like BO be electable, let alone the nominee. Shame on us!!!

  5. (from the last thread)
    NYTimes Article about “Unity”, the Benjamin$$’s, and Obama’s Snubs:

    Excerpts below (with my $$$ comments):

    1. But nearly three weeks after Mrs. Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Mr. Obama, some loyalists, especially on the Clinton side, are having trouble moving on.

    $$$ Ah, yeah. Duh. Can you say coup d-parte? And if Obama only “won” by including SDs, and not outright on “committed delegates”, the SDs can still change their minds. Still nine weeks to go before it settles in that Obama will drag them over the cliff.

    2. Some Clinton supporters are grousing that Mr. Obama has yet to make the symbolic gesture of writing a check for $2,300, the maximum allowable campaign donation, to help retire her debt of over $12 million.

    $$$ And this, from a “natural, gifted politician with infalliable instincts”??? (I made up this quote, to pull together all the leg-tingling descriptions of the “Alleged Presumed Nominee”). We’d expect nothing less from Senator Ombetterthanyou. A smart politician (hmmm, someone like….Hillary) would have made sure 5/31 wasn’t a complete farce, would not have poured salt on the wounds, and would have made a symbolic donation to retire their opponent’s debt.

    3. The question of how many of Mrs. Clinton’s former associates will end up working in Mr. Obama’s campaign is another source of tension. To date, there has been no large-scale effort to recruit Mrs. Clinton’s aides.

    $$$ Nor her supporters. We’re the “old guard”. There’ll be so many young people and progressives and AAs to replace the 30-ish% of 18,000,000 Hillary voters who will either stay home or vote for Mccain. Brazile promised it herself. Assume only 1/3 of the 30% flip to McCain…ooops, Donna, did you do the math? And did you ever take any lessons from Miss Manners?

    4. Part of this is because Mr. Obama’s campaign high command is already fully formed and because it is based in Chicago, meaning a relocation for most former Clinton workers. (Her headquarters was in suburban Washington.)

    $$$ Obama is forming his own sub-party within the Democratic Party. If he wins, he’ll form his own sub-government not accountable to the American people, the left-wing version of Bush.

    5. The hiring by Mr. Obama of Patti Solis Doyle, ousted as Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager in February, to run the operation of Mr. Obama’s running mate was seen by Clinton allies as a snub and a signal that Mrs. Clinton was not in contention for the No. 2 position on the ticket. Mr. Obama’s advisers said that was not the intended message.

    $$$ Solis-Doyle (or SoldUsOut-Doyle) is a mere puppet, meant to send a not-so-nice message to Hillary, “I won, ha ha, and to make sure you get the point, PSD will be the assistant to the Veep-Nominee….the same PSD you fired”. PSD will have zero pull with that Chicago Gang. Enjoy your brief stay. Have you figured out what to do after November, Patty?

  6. Independent raises race issue against Obama
    By Foon Rhee
    The Boston Globe
    Thursday, June 26, 2008
    Ralph Nader, who is again seeking the American presidency as an independent, is pressing the case that the presumptive Democratic nominee, Barack Obama, is another corporate candidate who will not really change Washington.

    But remarks by Nader that were published Wednesday, which expanded his critique to include race, are drawing fire.

    Nader, the longtime consumer advocate who has been a bane to Democrats, said in an interview with the Rocky Mountain News that Obama was trying to “talk white” and to appeal to “white guilt.”

    “There’s only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate,” Nader said. “He’s half African-American.”

    “Whether that will make any difference, I don’t know,” Nader continued. “I haven’t heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos.”

    “Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What’s keeping him from doing that?” Nader asked. “Is it because he wants to talk white?”

    Nader said that the first thing a black American politician seeking the presidency should do “is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas.”

    “Haven’t heard a thing,” Nader said.

    Nader said Obama wanted to show that he was not “another politically threatening African-American politician.”

    “He wants to appeal to white guilt,” Nader said. “You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as ‘black is beautiful, black is powerful.’ Basically he’s coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it’s corporate or whether it’s simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up.”

    Obama, whose mother was from Kansas and whose father was from Kenya, has been dealing with his biracial heritage all his life, going to a predominantly white college and Harvard Law School, then getting deeply involved in the black community in Chicago. In March, he gave a widely praised speech on race and politics in which he faulted whites and blacks alike for letting racial animosity and distrust linger.

    Asked at a news conference in Chicago Wednesday afternoon about Nader’s comments, Obama said that he had been addressing the issues that Nader raised. “What’s clear is that Ralph Nader has not been paying attention to my speeches,” Obama said.

    “Ralph Nader’s trying to get attention,” Obama added. “He’s become a perennial political candidate. It’s a shame, because if you look at his legacy in terms of consumer protections, it’s an extraordinary one.”

    Obama’s communications director, Robert Gibbs, said on MSNBC on Wednesday that Nader’s comments were “reprehensible” and “downright delusional.”

    Chris Driscoll, a spokesman for Nader, said that Nader would not retract or apologize for his remarks.

    “Obama’s abstract campaign has been illusional and irresponsible when it comes to avoiding concrete policies that truly defend and empower the 100 million Americans living in poverty or near poverty,” Nader responded in a statement read by Driscoll.

    In a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll released this week, Nader had 4 percent in a four-man race, just ahead of the Libertarian Bob Barr, but far behind Obama and John McCain, the Republican. Nader received nearly 3 percent of the vote as the Green Party candidate in 2000, the race in which many Democrats blame him for Al Gore’s narrow loss. Nader did not reach 0.5 percent in 2004, when he also ran as an independent.

  7. So Bambi had to bite his tongue during the primary against what Hillary said. He is scrum and from the lowest. I will never vote for him. I hope McCain selects Kay Bailey from Texas or Bobby Jingl from Louisian, but if he puts in Romney, I’ll have to vote Nader. Some of those reptiles I have huge problems with!

  8. The current “leads” that Obama is seeing in polls in RealClearPolitics are mirages. That oasis is just more sand.

    With his whole career being flip-flops of convenience, it’ll be easier to portray the 2008 Dem as a flip-flopping elitiest than it was the 2004 Dem.

  9. Plans to visit DNC

    Nader said he plans to travel to Denver during this summer’s Democratic National Convention, hoping to highlight an alternative agenda that he thinks the party should pursue. His appearance in the city is sure to anger some Democrats who believe his presence on the ballot during the contested 2000 election cost Al Gore votes, helping Republican George Bush win the disputed election.

    Nader rejects that blame, saying Democrats “scapegoated” him instead of looking at other factors that contributed to the defeat.

  10. Nader Rallies NYC Supporters, Suggests Obama Will Be ‘Greatest Disappointment’

    Needs 15,000 Valid NY Signatures by Aug. 9

    By Inni Chowdhury

    About 100 diehard Naderites welcomed their hero on June 18, when he came to New York’s Upper West Side to tout his third-party campaign for the White House. Ralph Nader and his running mate Matt Gonzales will be on the Independent Party ticket. For the man on the top of the ticket, his vision for the future is simple; he wants “to wage peace, not war.” Nader is against anything becoming “corporatized,” a process that has reached its peak under President Bush. Nader also had strong words for the Democrats presumptive nominee, saying he wished the Senator well, but thought “Obama will be the greatest disappointment.”

    About 100 diehard Naderites welcomed their hero on June 18, when he came to New York’s Upper West Side to tout his third-party campaign for the White House. Ralph Nader and his running mate Matt Gonzales will be on the Independent Party ticket. Gonzalez, 43, made his name in San Francisco politics, where, according to the official campaign website, “he is best known for having led the effort to implement Instant-Runoff Voting” and created a minimum wage bill that stays current with San Francisco’s high cost of living.

    For the man on the top of the ticket, his vision for the future is simple; he wants “to wage peace, not war.” Nader is against anything becoming “corporatized,” a process that has reached its peak under President Bush. Even the Nineties weren’t so great for reform, Nader said, under Clinton and Gore “corporate powers got worse. Every [cabinet] department internally and externally is now propped up by corporations.” This is why, he lectured the faithful, “the millions who have the vote need to get together and organize, organize, organize.” That, Nader says, is the only way to release the stranglehold corporations have on Washington policymaking.

    Nader also addressed the issue that has dogged him since 2000, when his support in Florida effectively, in the view of many, handed George W. Bush the White House. After eight years of Bush policies and an unnecessary war Nader makes clear that the blame is not with him, but with an undemocratic process. In his words, “Ask Gore. He believes he won. Don’t you? He believes it was stolen. Don’t you? Get the thieves that stole the election! Don’t go after the little guy, the third party!” It many people have forgotten the Republican chicanery that got Bush the White house, Nader has not and continually reminds everyone that his campaign alone did not bring this country to where it is now.

    Nader also had strong words for the Democrats presumptive nominee, saying he wished the Senator well, but thought “Obama will be the greatest disappointment.” Nader recounts being rebuffed by the Senator over the past year, and has been told the Senator has no time to meet with him. Nader says, “He is afraid of the questions I have for him. It is ironic because his first job out of college was with NYPIRG, which I helped create.” Nader argues that for a former ‘PIRG guy,’ he gives “generalities for the masses, capitulations to the corporations.”

    Explaining the continuing support for Nader among some progressives, supporter Dylan Roberts said, “When you vote your conscience, it is not a wasted vote.” His vote is not for “Nader to win the presidency” but for the advocate’s issues to become a part of the national conversation.

    A woman in the audience asked Nader if she should vote with the Green Party, where Cynthia McKinney has set up an exploratory committee. Nader said, “I respect the Green Party and their platform, but they don’t have any official candidates yet with my experience.” Nader ran on the Green Party ticket in 2000.

    During the event, young and old volunteers went around the audience with red buckets and clipboards, gathering donations and pledges from the well-heeled audience. Ballot access is a big obstacle for the campaign. In New York, Nader supporters will have to gather 15,000 valid signatures between July 8 and Aug. 19. The Nader campaign has alread submitted ballot peititions in Hawaii, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, both McCain and Obama consider the last three battleground states.


    She’s Back

    Most of it is pablum, along the lines of “too bad we have this sucky candidate…but what else is a girl to do?”

    But this part is telling:

    Barack Obama’s not perfect. He’s a Democrat. Flip flopping on campaign finance I predicted. That he said he’d vote for FISA offering telecom immunity, then didn’t vote, after saying he was against it didn’t surprise me either. After covering him for 18 months all you have to do is go looking in my archives to discover that Senator Obama is likely one of the shrewdest, calculating, and talented politicians ever to rise up, which he proved in the primaries. One of his first interviews, to which I always return, is when he told George Stephanopoulos he wasn’t an ideologue, being conservative on some things. He calculates, sees strategically what may be coming, then plays his hand, not on principle but on possible outcome that will advance him closer to his goal: power. Nothing that’s unfolding should surprise anyone who’s been paying attention. Bluntly, I told you so. But while Obama may be Machiavellian, he’s our Machiavelli. It’s nice the shark is on our side this time.

    Taylor reveals some twisted thinking. We’re supposed to be happy that this lowlife scum Chicago politician will deliver the goods on the issues we care about???

    But we already know that he doesn’t take courageous stands. Look at his “make no waves” time in the Senate. It was all about “Hey, I might just run for president after just a couple of years in the Senate, and all I’ll do is vote “present” or miss votes, so no one can pin anything on me. Wow, I am SO smart, I really impress myself”.

    And as Real Dems, “Count Every Vote” Dems, “Hey, Florida will never happen again” Dems, are we supposed to contain our outrage at how the nomination was stolen, from the causus intimidation and vote rigging, to the 5/31 RBC, to the FL/MI hackery from Dean and Brazile, we’re supposed to say:

    “Hey, we’re all on the same happy team”????

    Obama needs to lose, either in November, or in Denver. The DNC needs to be overhauled.

    By Taylor’s logic, we should be happy as certain segments in Germany in the mid-1930’s, that “at least they didn’t come for me (this time)”. Wake up TM, and see the nastiness for what it is.

    This is why we fight against Obama.

  12. Sorry to post the video twice but I wasn’t sure the first one would post so I posted another link of the same video.

    Admin, can you enable the video please?

  13. In Comments to Taylor Marsh’s “She’s Back”, comes a nice rejoinder from “tkk”. Let’s go to the video tape…

    Taylor Marsh: we all know by now that you have chosen to support Obama, but you really need to quit insulting people of integrity who have chosen a different path and stop suggesting that we are merely “petulant” and vindictive. You’re starting to sound HuffPo. There is a very principled stand against Obama and the DNC. It’s not what some Democrats want, it’s not really what any Democrat wants, but there are principles at stake here.

    If you truly believe that every Democrat who is not supporting Obama is just petty and petulant, then I believe you were never a true Hillary supporter and do not love the democratic process. If the Founding Fathers had sucked it up and allowed their rights as Englishmen to be trampled all over by the Crown, we never would have had a United States. And that’s what people who’ve decided to go with the flow need to start understanding. The actions of the DNC and other Democratic leaders in this election cycle have been reprehensible and if people can’t embrace that, other Americans should accept it. You have a lot to gain by supporting the Dem choice. The rest of us, not so much. We should be able to vote our conscience without harrassment from people who have a different view.

    Obama is a bad candidate. We’ve had 8 years of a bad president. You can’t blame intelligent people if they can’t bring themselves to vote for another illegitimate, lackluster man. He is illegitimate no matter how you try to parse words to the contrary.
    tkk | 06.26.2008 – 3:26 pm

  14. More piling on Taylor about her flawed thinking in why to support Ombetterthanyou:

    “But while Obama may be Machiavellian, he’s our
    Machiavelli. It’s nice the shark is on our side this time.”

    There is something inherently wrong with this statement.

    It’s okay to be a bastard as long as you’re a bastard for the “right” side?

    I’ve been told that there is the truth, a lie and a political answer.

    To me political answers are lies. And the fact that we have a person that lies so skillfully…and you’re saying, “well at least he’s on our side.” Is hilarious.

    Point of fact he’s not on your side, he’s on his side. He’s making sure HIS butt is covered…and I have no faith in a person like that to look out for the general public’s best interest.

    There is nothing that inspires faith in me that he won’t do just what Bush and his cronies have been doing, and that’s doing whatever they want to do…and blaming others for it.

    And I’m going to give no quarter to those who if he gets in, in four years time talks about, “we were wrong” just like the Bushies did in 2000 and 2004. Just like Bush, you knew what this cat was about and you voted for him anyway.
    Miss Malevolent | Homepage | 06.26.2008 – 3:52 pm

  15. TM’s thinking is twisted. She needs to remember Admin’s words:

    “Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.”

    He is on his own side, as the above posting indicates.

  16. …that Senator Obama is likely one of the shrewdest, calculating, and talented politicians ever to rise up. ….. It’s nice the shark is on our side this time.

    This is the second article I’ve seen in which the author admits that Obama is tricky, duplicitous, or acts bad faith…but aren’t we lucky he is on our side! or gee it’s exactly what we need right now to deal with other countries.

    I say this is the next trend of articles coming out now trying to appease Hillary supporters who are calling Obama out on his astonishingly bad behavior. The first trend was all the ‘yes there is sexism happening’ articles.

    Notice the articles start like they are criticizing Obama but then at the end actually makes it a compliment that he is a tricky person.

  17. Notice they are making the word ‘calculating’ a compliment and how we need someone like that. Remember a few months ago how it was a negative for Hillary?

  18. On the ‘iownmyvote’ ‘pledge’, here is Larry Johnson’s ‘preamble’ dated June 25 at,
    h t t p : / /

    When you read the I Own My Vote Pledge, keep in mind that the demands it contains are not admissions of defeat, nor are they conditions precedent to your vote. Hillary’s campaign is only suspended, not ended. And only you can decide when your vote has been earned. Whether you are a PUMA activist, a WomenCountPAC donor, a Just Say No Deal blogger, a Clinton Democrat for McCain, a yellow dog Democrat for VoteBoth, or simply a Hillary Clinton supporter who feels like the Party leaders and their presumptive nominee are ignoring everything that you value, the most powerful statement you can make right now is that YOU OWN YOUR VOTE. Only in finding that common ground will we be counted, for only in that common ground will we be able to count ourselves.

    As an editor, I’m saying that if you have to start something with a preamble saying it’s not an admission of defeat and it’s not this and not that — such a preamble is ITSELF an admission that the ‘pledge’ is not ready for prime time. Is that preamble supposed to go to every SD and every MSM reporter who receives the ‘pledge’?

    Whatever the ‘pledge’ is supposed to mean — WIRM — it’s eminently spinnable as defeat and surrender, as figleaves for both sides.

  19. # CountTheVotes Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    hmmmm, maybe I’ll vote for Nader.
    I am holding out for Hillary…..BUT!

    That may end up being the choice of many dems that won’t vote for obama
    who can’t possibly vote for McCain either.

    it’s personally one i have thought about about too…… I am still undecided
    but I am one of those who can pull the lever for JM too……anyone but Obama!!

  20. Frankly I’d love to see a 3rd party candidate (not Barr) become president. I’m so sick of the 2 party system. How much worse could they be to the choices we have now(Hillary excluded) with the fall in line, do as we say 2 parties?

  21. Thank You Admin for changing the Right Col, so we can go back to these great articles you write.

  22. More from Obama on Why he opted out of Federal financing
    Rick Moran
    Does anyone really believe Obama about why he isn’t taking federal money?

    And allow me to knock down the straw man argument thrown up by Obama supporters that conservatives shouldn’t complain because we don’t support federal financing of campaigns.

    You are correct. We conservatives abhor government involvement in campaigns. t we abhor more and what Obama supporters don’t seem to mind is the lying weasel of a politician Obama is proving himself to be by not telling the truth about why he is not taking federal money for his campaign.

    The reason is simple, straightforward and so ridiculously transparent that only an Obama supporter so enamored of their candidate’s messiah-like goodness can fail to see it; he can raise 3 times as much money as McCain and the Republicans by eschewing federal financing.

    Then why in God’s name doesn’t he say so?

    “Our opponents are dedicated to manipulating this broken system to raise as much money as possible — and they’ve proven they are very good at it,” Obama’s site declares. No mention that Obama’s been pretty good at it himself, raising $295 million to John McCain’s $122 million. “To compete” — as if he wouldn’t be competitive otherwise — “Barack has decided to keep putting his faith in ordinary people like you giving only what you can afford.”

    Ordinary people, that is, if your definition of ordinary people includes bundlers who can collect six- and even seven-figure sums for your campaign. Because even as he was rhapsodizing in public about “the grass-roots values that have already changed our politics and brought us this far,” a was privately cozying up to Hillary Clinton’s major fundraisers.

    Earlier this month, he dispatched his campaign manager, David Plouffe, to woo Clinton bundlers in Washington and New York. This week, Clinton will introduce Obama to nearly 200 of her major bundlers, including some who have raised $1 million or more, in a meeting at the Mayflower Hotel.

    “This group could represent 50 million, if not 100 million, bucks,” said one top Clinton strategist.

    As I said — a lying weasel. But you and I both know that revealing their candidate to be a liar is a wasted exercise. It would be one thing if idiot college kids and half wit stoners swallowed this baloney. But real adults have drunk the kool aid too. And it makes you wonder just what this guy has to say or do to wake them up.

  23. Priest stands by Clinton critique
    Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor June 26, 2008 10:07 AM

    He’s back, and not quite repentant.

    Father Michael Pfleger — the Catholic priest whose mocking of Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ was the final controversy that led to Barack Obama leaving his spiritual home of two decades — in his first interview acknowledged that his delivery might have left something to be desired, but stood by his message.

    “I was giving a talk about race. And is entitlement one of the things about race that I believe in? Is an unequal playing field one of the things I believe in? Yes, so I don’t apologize for being passionate, I don’t apologize for being free,” Pfleger said in the interview aired today on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

    “I apologize when my passion or my freeness and my flawness of character get in the way of the content, which is much more important to me — that people hear the message. And when I am in the way of the message then I’m not only apologetic, but I have to change.”

    In a sermon in May, Pfleger called Clinton a white” and “entitled” politician stunned to see Obama winning the Democratic nomination.

    “I really believe that she just always thought, ‘This is mine. I’m Bill’s wife, I’m white and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate,’ ” Pfleger said. “And then out of nowhere came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama.’ And she said, ‘Oh, damn, where did you come from? I’m white. I’m entitled. There’s a black man stealing my show.’ ”

    Two days after his sermon became public and a YouTube sensation, Obama announced that he was resigning from Trinity, where his former pastor’s incendiary sermons also caused him trouble on the campaign trail.

    Pfleger, himself, was temporarily suspended from his parish by Chicago’s bishop and had to promise not to make more political statements this election.
    What is it about Catholic Priests that think they are entitled to make these type of attacks and think they can get away with it?

    In no time did I think Sen. Hillary Clinton thought she was entitled to be President because of her husband. But Sexism and Mysoginy is NOT something that the Church addresses anyway.

  24. obama was for vouchers back in feb which is why so many teachers are opposed to him. now he is not. vouchers under the bus!

    June 25, 2008 ( – A landmark education program that provides opportunity to hundreds of families in the nation’s capital to attend private schools is being opposed by Democrats in Congress.

    Barack Obama told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel in February that he was open to voucher programs, but just last week announced his intentions to squash the DC pilot program.

    “Barack Obama prefers private education for his daughters but won’t give DC parents the same opportunity,” said Brian Burch, President of Fidelis, a Catholic-based political, legal, research and educational organization.

    “Vouchers are Change,” he continued. “Rather than subjecting kids to rotting schools, vouchers have brought change to hundreds of families, who opted for private or parochial schools. If Barack Obama had fought for this program, it would be saved. But he refuses to help these low-income families. By supporting the teachers union, he sadly has become the Status Quo Candidate on education.”

    Back in February, it looked like Barack Obama would be willing to back the teachers union and support the voucher program.

  25. # clintondem99 Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    djia,debbie, How about Ralph??

    I like Ralph , I would vote for him, he IMHO is perhaps a better choice than McCain

    the only issue i might have right now, is we split our protest votes as a group between JM and RN and staying home and not voting would that in effect allow obama to win???

    I think that those not willing to vote for BO need to b e unified in how they will cast their votes more than any thing else or it will defeat the purpose of not allowing obama
    To be elected at all.

  26. I have no problem voting for McCain and prolly will but for those democrats who can’t or won’t vote for McCain, instead of a write in vote that will not count….vote for Ralph as you protest vote.

  27. carby i think that is about the best compromise and unity we can ask for

    I think sitting home and write in’s are completely useless……and that is something
    I would like to see ADmin and other sites write about as we get closer to NOvember

  28. How come this blog was down for a few minutes, did something just happen??? I been busy with personal stuff and bam the blog was down!

  29. djia Says:
    the only issue i might have right now, is we split our protest votes as a group between JM and RN and staying home and not voting would that in effect allow obama to win???

    I think that those not willing to vote for BO need to b e unified in how they will cast their votes more than any thing else or it will defeat the purpose of not allowing obama
    To be elected at all.

    Only if the results are very very close between McCain and Obama.

    As for results, there are really only two choices:
    1. McCain
    2. something else (stay home, writein, third party, etc)

    #2 takes one vote away from Obama
    #1 takes it away AND gives it to McCain — so this is double effect

    If you don’t want to give it to McCain, then it really doesn’t matter to the result whether you stay home or give it to someone else.

    As for sending a message, giving it to someone else sends a clearer message than staying home. It would be funny if all those young moveon types ended up voting for Nader after all. 🙂

  30. djia, I do not know if any of you feel the same way as I do. One day I feel like voting for McCain but I have doubts at the same time. I have voted for Democrats for a long time. I am ideologically Democratic. I am sure of one thing. I could never vote for Obama because he has no beliefs. He will take any stand to win.

  31. From CBS News’ Jamie Farnsworth:

    (CINCINATTI) At Xavier University in Cincinnati, Sen. John McCain hosted a town hall event for voters this afternoon. Among the many McCain supporters sat a woman wearing a navy blue “Hillary For President” hat.

    The day before a much anticipated first campaign appearance by Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, a new AP/Yahoo News poll released findings that over half of Clinton supporters are now backing Obama. However, there are still some former Clinton supporters shopping for a new candidate.

    “I’m a registered Democrat looking for a presidential candidate,” the Clinton supporter told John McCain. “There are lots of women who feel now disenfranchised.”

    McCain answered the voter by singing his own praise of Clinton, saying “all of us respect not only Senator Clinton but the race that she ran. She inspired millions of Americans and millions of American women and women all over the world.” He went on to say he appreciated being able to work with Clinton on the Armed Services Committee.

    The voter neglected to say who she would be voting for, only that she wished Obama was at the town hall with McCain. She also said she felt compelled as a woman to question McCain’s positions on women’s rights and express her concern over his possible Supreme Court appointees.

    For a candidate no longer running for president, Clinton still is very much in the minds of voters and tomorrow she will try to sway the remaining undecided toward her one-time rival.

  32. Fraudbama cannot be trusted.
    It is amazing that some (TM) still believe that he will stand for anything but himself.
    He will not protect the country or her people.
    He folds like the cheap empty suit that he is.

    Our country faces many difficult challenges.
    Fraudbama does not have the grit or the guts to meet these needs.
    He is a coward and a cheap empty fake.

  33. Bronfman, Bernstein head Obama Jewish group

    Some major players in New York’s Jewish community, most of whom backed Hillary Clinton, have joined Obama, lending him important voices with a circle he’s working hard to court.

    An invitation for a gathering of the Obama Jewish Leadership Council of Metro New York on July 1 lists Edgar Bronfman as one of the group’s chairs. The Seagram’s heir is a major player in American Jewish politics and was the longtime president of the World Jewish Congress. He’d also been a prominent and active Clinton backer.

    The group’s other chairs are Merryl Tisch, Howard Milstein, and Tom and Andi Bernstein.

    The last couple is notable because Tom Bernstein is a Yale friend and prominent supporter of George W. Bush.

    CORRECTION: The date of the event was given incorrectly on the first version of the invitation I saw.

  34. To be quite honest, I don’t know, how any Jewish person could support BO. I wouldn’t trust him. He has no values or allegiances.

  35. Netroots Feel Jilted By Obama Over FISA
    June 25, 2008

    When former Sen. John Edwards dropped out of the presidential race, the progressive Netroots took their affections to Barack Obama, defending him against attack from Hillary Rodham Clinton and others.

    But with his support of a government surveillance bill that offers retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies – a bill that he vowed last year to filibuster – the honeymoon has ended.

    Disappointed over his position on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the online activists feel jilted and betrayed and have taken to questioning his progressive credentials. One prominent blogger, Atrios, has even given him the moniker “Wanker of the Day.”

    “He broke faith,” said Matt Stoller, a political consultant and blogger at “Obama pledged to filibuster, and he is part of that old politics, in this case, that he said he wasn’t. It will spur us to challenge him.”

    The FISA debate marks the presumptive Democratic nominee’s first serious break from the liberal Netroots in the general election. He is still their candidate, but the FISA issue has reignited skepticism among major bloggers, who had largely pushed aside doubts about Obama when Edwards, their favored candidate, ended his bid in February.

    Obama’s post-partisan persona hasn’t always meshed so well with the noisy and contentious Netroots, and his rise to prominence has come without their full-throated support. He told reporters in February that he doesn’t read blogs and has long been viewed as cool to the Netroots – a notion that the candidate’s new media director, Joe Rospars, disputed this week at the Personal Democracy Forum in New York, saying Obama was a favorite of the readers of the major bloggers.

    Either way, the Netroots eventually took Obama’s side against Clinton, and some came to view him as a champion of progressive causes.

    His stance on the FISA bill, however, has brought Obama back down to earth, in part because the liberal blogosphere cares more about civil liberties than many of the other traditional issues that have long dominated the Democratic agenda. While the mainstream media fixated on Obama’s decision to opt out of the public financing system – and newspaper editorial boards eviscerated him – the Netroots commended Obama for showing political savvy. After all, the readers of liberal blogs are many of the small donors who gave Obama reason to reject public financing.

    FISA, however, was different. Many of the most popular progressive blogs built their following by mining anger toward President Bush, the Iraq war and what bloggers view as his disregard of the Constitution and the civil liberties guaranteed by it. By granting immunity to telecom companies, civil courts will likely dismiss lawsuits that might unearth details about the administration’s activities, eliminating an opportunity to hold Bush accountable.

    “It angers the blogosphere to its core,” said Jane Hamsher, founder of the popular blog “We want to be able to know: What did you do? If we can get that information, we can make sure they don’t do that again. We can get the public engaged.”

    Obama’s decision to support the bill with the immunity provision was not surprising, she said. Republicans frame critics of such security measures as soft on terrorism, and the presumptive Democratic nominee probably does not want it used against him.

    “[A] lot of people tried to convince themselves that he was a progressive hero, and I think they were disappointed,” Hamsher said. “You can feel a real shift in the zeitgeist online.”

    Still, the disillusionment goes only so far. The liberal blogosphere’s most recognizable name, Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, founder of Daily Kos, said Monday on MSNBC’s “Countdown With Keith Olbermann”: “Let’s be honest, it is either Obama or John McCain. So we really don’t have much of a choice.”

    At stake for Obama in the FISA vote is the intensity of support for Obama, Moulitsas said.

    “I don’t want to hear him talk about leadership. I don’t want to hear him talk about defending the Constitution. I want to see him do it,” he said. “If he does, it will increase the intensity and level of support he gets from base Democrats. If he doesn’t, we may worry he is just another one of these spineless Democrats who are more afraid of controversy in doing the right thing than they are in actually doing the right thing.”

    Already, Blue America PAC, a liberal online fundraising group, says it has raised more than $320,000 to fund activities “holding our elected representatives responsible for rubber-stamping the most grievous aspects of the Bush Regime’s agenda.” has called upon its members to pressure Obama to “keep his word” and block the bill. Obama gave no indication that he would support a filibuster, and a press aide did not respond to requests for clarification on this point.

    The Senate overwhelmingly rejected the filibuster attempt Wednesday, voting 80-15 to end debate and move to final passage Thursday. Obama, who was not present for Wednesday’s test vote, is expected to vote for an amendment stripping out the immunity provision. But even if the effort fails, as it has in the past, Obama would likely back the underlying bill.

    By taking this position, Obama is threading the needle between Republican charges that he is weak on security and the desires of the Democratic base. To allay critics’ claims that he is giving a pass to the Bush administration, Obama aides pointed to a provision in the bill that requires an inspector general’s review of the surveillance program.

    “It is not all that I would want,” Obama said of the legislation, which was negotiated by congressional leaders of both parties. “But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence-collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise but do so with a firm pledge that, as president, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the inspectors general and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives – and the liberty – of the American people.”

    Obama’s statement was viewed as a reversal from a pledge last year to oppose any bill with retroactive immunity for telecom companies.

    But Obama told reporters Wednesday that the bill has changed from when that pledge was made, saying the latest version satisfied several of his concerns.

    Dan Gerstein, a New York political consultant who supports Obama and former longtime aide to Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), said Obama now needs to stand by his support of the bill, given Republican efforts to brand Obama as a “reflexive, partisan liberal.” “This is really an important initial test for Obama,” he said.

    “People will be looking at this to see whether he has the strength and independence to stand up to his friends and a significant support base and say, ‘I think this is right, and I am going to hold firm in my position.’”

    The Netroots will be watching Thursday as the Senate considers the bill – and whether Obama simply casts his vote or whether he takes a strong stand in a floor speech.

    “The fear out there is that Obama is going to fail to live up to expectations on key issues, and that reinforces the notion that ‘uh-oh, we picked the wrong candidate,’ when the focus should really be on the fact that the Bush administration broke the law with the help of private companies,” said Warren Street, a blogger at the Blue Girl, Red State bog.
    Those Netroots have been suckered, what tools to believe in Obama’s flim-flam. Hope and Change is all Obama promised you, like you hope he won’t change with the money. HAHAHA

  36. # clintondem99 Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    djia, I do not know if any of you feel the same way as I do. One day I feel like voting for McCain but I have doubts at the same time. I have voted for Democrats for a long time. I am ideologically Democratic. I am sure of one thing. I could never vote for Obama because he has no beliefs. He will take any stand to win.

    yes i have those thoughts and feelings too, how ever i am more independant than democrat as i always vote the person if i do not agree with the dem candidate (nothing new this year)

    but McCain gives me worries as well……but still feel he is the lesser of 2 evils

  37. Obama and Clinton in Talks to Unify Party

    Published: June 26, 2008

    WASHINGTON — With the help of one of Washington’s best-connected lawyers, Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are negotiating a thicket of complicated issues, like how to repay Mrs. Clinton’s campaign debt and her role at the Democratic convention. The talks come as they try to leave behind their intense rivalry and work out a plan to cooperate this fall. Robert B. Barnett is working to merge aspects of the Clinton and Obama campaigns.

    At Mrs. Clinton’s request, the lawyer, Robert B. Barnett, who has brokered multimillion-dollar book deals for clients including Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton and Bill Clinton, is working to hash out questions large and small as the two camps work toward a political merger. Perhaps the thorniest question — what to do about Bill Clinton, who friends say continues to refight the bitter primary fight — has yet to be raised by either side, advisers said.
    On some levels, the melding of the two operations is moving ahead relatively smoothly. Mrs. Clinton will introduce some of her top donors to Mr. Obama on Thursday night in Washington, and on Friday the two of them will appear together at a rally in Unity, N.H. Mr. Obama is in talks to hire one of Mrs. Clinton’s most prominent advisers — Neera Tanden, her policy director — and has hired and dispatched a few of Mrs. Clinton’s field operatives to work in Missouri and Ohio.
    But nearly three weeks after Mrs. Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Mr. Obama, some loyalists, especially on the Clinton side, are having trouble moving on.
    Some Clinton supporters are grousing that Mr. Obama has yet to make the symbolic gesture of writing a check for $2,300, the maximum allowable campaign donation, to help retire her debt of over $12 million.
    At her headquarters two weeks ago, a potluck dinner for women who had volunteered for Mrs. Clinton turned into a forum in which many of her most loyal supporters expressed dissatisfaction with the outcome of the contest and with Mr. Obama, attendees said. And some of Mrs. Clinton’s aides said Mr. Obama’s campaign had made only a perfunctory effort to hire Clinton staff members; the Clinton campaign payroll is ending for most employees in less than a week.
    Mr. Obama’s aides said that while he was prepared to help her pay off the debt, there was only so far he would go, given his campaign’s own desire to raise record sums for the general election. In addition to the $12 million that Mrs. Clinton owes to outside suppliers, she pumped more than $10 million of her own money into her campaign.
    Mr. Obama said Wednesday that he would not send out e-mail to his small-dollar donors asking them to send money to Mrs. Clinton. “Their budgets are tighter,” he said. “They know that I’m going to be working with Senator Clinton, and if they want to make contributions, there’s nothing wrong with their doing so, and I encourage them.”
    Beyond that, the two sides are negotiating precisely what kind of role she will have at the convention, including what night she will make a prime-time speech and whether her name will be placed symbolically into nomination. They are discussing whether Mr. Obama’s campaign will provide a plane and staff for Mrs. Clinton as she travels on his behalf. The talks were described by aides on both sides as complicated, but not hostile.
    Still, the sheer agenda of discussion items — and the presence of Mr. Barnett, a Washington lawyer who has represented some of the city’s top political and media figures over the years — served as a reminder of what an extraordinarily close competition this was for these two celebrity candidates.
    For all that, aides to both senators said their relationship seemed far stronger than that of many of their respective supporters following this combative primary season.
    Since Mrs. Clinton suspended her candidacy and endorsed Mr. Obama this month, the two have spoken a few times by telephone as recently as Sunday, but have not met in person since they got together at the Washington home of Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, two days after the last primaries.
    Mr. Obama asked his big-dollar fund-raisers this week to step in to help Mrs. Clinton pay off her debt; Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said she would ask 200 of her most generous donors to start writing checks to Mr. Obama when the two appear before them at a closed-door session here on Thursday.
    “They were allies before they became competitors in the longest Democratic fight on record; they’re re-establishing their relationship,” said David Axelrod, the chief strategist to Mr. Obama’s campaign. “I expect that they will unify around the things that they both care about. They both have an interest in working closely together.”
    Mr. Axelrod added: “This was a long and unbelievably competitive battle. It takes a little time.”
    Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, said that everyone who had supported her had been asked to turn all their energies to helping Mr. Obama. “Hillary is 100 percent behind making sure that Barack gets elected president,” Mr. McAuliffe said. “We’re instructing everybody, ‘Let’s get on board, let’s win this election.’ ”
    Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, who debated in Cleveland on Feb. 26, and who have been talking by phone, will join forces on Thursday in a meeting with her big donors.
    He said that most of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters were eager to help Mr. Obama defeat his Republican rival, Senator John McCain of Arizona, though he said he had encountered regular reminders of the bitterness from the Democratic primary fight.
    “There are people, as you know, who are angry; we just are going to have to deal with that,” he said. “I’ve been on losing ends before. For many of these people the only remedy is time.”
    In their conversations, aides to both senators said, discussion of whether she would be interested in — or whether he would offer — a vice-presidential slot has not come up as they have sought to unify the Democratic Party.
    “It’s a separate issue,” Mr. Axelrod said of the running-mate topic. “She’s been good enough to give him the room that a nominee should have to make a decision.”
    Although Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton have talked several times since she withdrew, Mr. Obama and Mr. Clinton have yet to talk. The relationship-repairing effort, aides said, is concentrating first on Mrs. Clinton.
    Aides to both senators say hard feelings between the two camps are dissipating by the week — many people from both sides, in fact, were friends before and remain close — but some habits remain. In the primary, aides to Mrs. Clinton referred to their rival as B.H.O. — initials of Barack Hussein Obama, including his middle name, which has been a politically sensitive issue — while Mr. Obama’s team simply referred to him as B.O. The B.H.O. shorthand is frowned upon inside Mr. Obama’s campaign headquarters, a warning for any Clinton staff members coming aboard.
    Mr. McAuliffe said the debt problem should not be a big issue as the campaign moved forward. “Listen, I’ve been helping the Clintons with debt for a long time,” he said. “It hasn’t bothered us before, and it doesn’t bother me now. We’re going to retire the debt in due course. I’m not concerned.”
    But Mrs. Clinton’s advisers have told Mr. Obama that her ability to campaign on his behalf will be curtailed if she has to devote the summer to raising money on her own behalf.
    The question of how many of Mrs. Clinton’s former associates will end up working in Mr. Obama’s campaign is another source of tension. To date, there has been no large-scale effort to recruit Mrs. Clinton’s aides.
    Part of this is because Mr. Obama’s campaign high command is already fully formed and because it is based in Chicago, meaning a relocation for most former Clinton workers. (Her headquarters was in suburban Washington.)
    The hiring by Mr. Obama of Patti Solis Doyle, ousted as Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager in February, to run the operation of Mr. Obama’s running mate was seen by Clinton allies as a snub and a signal that Mrs. Clinton was not in contention for the No. 2 position on the ticket. Mr. Obama’s advisers said that was not the intended message.
    Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe, said the campaign was taking names of Clinton staff members from Mrs. Clinton and was prepared to hire a number, particularly for contested states.
    “They are getting us the names of people who are interested in working with us,” Mr. Plouffe said, “and we are working through that. They have a lot of talent.”

  38. The Moral of the story above?

    DO NOT be so quick to pay off her debt!!

    and we shall use B H O everywhere we blog 😀

  39. The problem for the Clintons is that they think they can negotiate with him in GOOD FAITH….but what they don’t know is that Team Obama has utter comtempt for them and will NOT keep their promises.

    It’s all about getting their contacts and then replacing their biggest threat.

    Bill and Hillary needs to concentrate on paying off Hillary’s campaign debt and then see what Obama is willing to trade with. Don’t belive TEAM OBAMA. They need the Clintons now but once they get what they need they will be THROWN UNDER THE BUS.

    HOLD OUT UNTIL AFTER THE CONVENTION…then campaign for Obama IF you have to but to give him everything he ask for now without getting NOTHING in return but empty promises…is a terrible mistake.

    Obama want PARTY UNITY now…DON’T GIVE IT TO HIM!!!!

    BUILT YOUR BASE IN SENATE where you are stronger and F**K the WEAK ASS HOUSE with those BACKSTABBERS. Let them pull their weight. STOP the APPEASEMENT TOUR and treat OBAMBI LIKE THE SNAKE HE IS.


  40. Nancy Pelosi is trying to be KING MAKER again:

    Pelosi Suggests Texan as Possible Obama VP
    Sarah Lueck reports on Congress.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Rep. Chet Edwards’s work on veterans’ issues is one of the reasons she’s suggested him as a possible running-mate for presidential candidate Barack Obama.

    Edwards, a moderate Democrat from Waco, Texas, is the latest name in the Obama veepstakes. He is “Mr. Veterans in Congress,” Pelosi told reporters Thursday. “The veterans know him, they love him…He would be a great addition to the ticket.” In fact, just before her remarks, Edwards appeared with Sen. Jim Webb, another vice presidential contender, at a press conference celebrating the expected passage of new education benefits for veterans.

    Pelosi said she thought some House members ought to be considered in Obama’s veepstakes, and she said Edwards is “one of the finest people I’ve ever served with.”

    She was quick to add that, “Any nominee that Sen. Obama chooses is A-Ok with me.”

    Pelosi’s press conference wasn’t open for broadcast by television and radio reporters as usual because she had lost her voice and was straining to speak. “I woke up this morning and the speaker lost her voice,” she joked.

  41. Spokesman: Obama opposes the Fairness Doctrine
    June 25, 2008 by Allahpundit

    FISA, NAFTA, the death penalty decision, now this. How many lefty hearts is Barry O planning to break to win an election?

    There may be some Democrats talking about reimposing the fairness doctrine, but one very important one does not: presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama…

    “Senator Obama does not support re-imposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters,” said press secretary Michael Ortiz in an e-mail to B&C late Wednesday.“He considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible,” said Ortiz.

    “[T]hat is why Senator Obama supports media ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets.”

    I’ve got a nutty hunch that once he’s free and clear of the electorate the “conversation” he has in mind about opening up the airwaves to new viewpoints is going to lead to him “reconsidering” his position on Fairness, much as he “reconsidered” his position on public financing.

    And why not? The congressional leadership is all for it:
    The speaker of the House made it clear to me and more than forty of my colleagues yesterday that a bill by Rep. Mike Pence (R.-Ind.) to outlaw the “Fairness Doctrine” (which a liberal administration could use to silence Rush Limbaugh, other radio talk show hosts and much of the new alternative media) would not see the light of day in Congress during ’08. In ruling out a vote on Pence’s proposed Broadcaster’s Freedom Act, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-CA.) also signaled her strong support for revival of the “Fairness Doctrine” — which would require radio station owners to provide equal time to radio commentary when it is requested…

    “Do you personally support revival of the ‘Fairness Doctrine?’” I asked.
    “Yes,” the speaker replied, without hesitation.

    Meaningful statement of political intent or Kanjorski-esque smokescreen to appease the nutroots while secretly planning to do nothing about the problem? I’m inclined to think it’s the latter only because the Dems would be nuts to galvanize a dispirited conservative base after the election by going after Limbaugh et al. If they want to consolidate their gains and build a semi-permanent majority, the smart thing to do is avoid partisan nonsense and focus on bread and butter economic legislation and health care.

    That’ll earn them some trust by demonstrating a seriousness of purpose and it’ll bolster Obama’s “new politics” image by not getting bogged down in a war with the GOP. Conservative talk radio will attack them, of course, but they’re better off answering with results and otherwise ignoring it than by antagonizing us with some heavy-handed lunge at silencing the opposition to clear their way. Obama, at least, seems to be thinking big picture so he might very well realize that. I wonder, though, if he and Pelosi can resist if the left insists on thrusting this upon them. Exit question: Anyone see President Obama vetoing a Democrat bill to revive Fairness?

  42. It’s the NANCY PELOSI SHOW:

    Nancy Pelosi Wants to End Excessive Oil Speculation Save Email Print

    Posted: 2:09 PM Jun 26, 2008
    Last Updated: 2:09 PM Jun 26, 2008

    In an effort to get a handle on rising gas prices, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has asked President Bush to end excessive speculation in commodity markets.

    She made the announcement during a news conference on June 25 in Washington.

    “I’ve sent a letter to President Bush calling on him to direct the Commodities Futures Trade Commission to use its emergency powers to take immediate action to curb speculation in energy markets,” stated Pelosi.

    “They should act to investigate all energy contracts. This authority Congress has already given to CFTC, but which they have not used.”

    The House has introduced nine different bills on speculation.

    One proposal would limit hedge funds from pouring money into the market, while another would regulate foreign oil trading.

  43. Great post, Admin. I love the gun issue as both a wedge one for battleground states and as a perfect example of Dork Dude’s flip-flopping nature.

    The guy is such a punk. He has no spine and no balls. He is a complete joke who would have to be told where his feet were if they weren’t attached to his body.

  44. Thanks for those Nader blurbs, Carbynew (I’m currently scrolling down through the comments before my last post).

    Well, well, well — who knew that Ralph Nader could be a useful ally for us?

    If he is ready to call out BaJoke for his blatant White Guilt play, then welcome to the party, Ralph Nader.

    This critique needs to be doled out and if it comes from a Democrat, all the better.

    We definitely want to spread the word on this.

    The jig is up, BaJoke. People are onto your weak, sorry-ass game.

    And none too soon, either.

    You go, Ralph Nader.

  45. Wednesday Jun 25th, 2008 12:30 PM
    Cynthia McKinney writes about Cindy Sheehan’s 6/24 4th Amendment Burial Marchþ
    On Friday, June 20, the House of Representatives voted to support a bill granting immunity from the law to telecommunications companies involved in illegal spying.

    Cindy Sheehan, independent candidate for U.S. Congress in Nancy Pelosi’s 8th district (San Francisco), called it a “death blow” to the Fourth Amendment and urged all supporters of civil liberties to join her on June 24 in San Francisco for a “Funeral for the Fourth Amendment.”

    Cynthia McKinney, presidential candidate of the Power to the People Committee, sent remarks in support of Cindy Sheehan Fourth Amendment Burial March [SEE BELOW].

    The FISA Amendments Act of 2008, as it is called, is said to be a “bipartisan compromise” between extremes. It is nothing of the sort. It is an overt capitulation to the phone companies’ and White House’s demands. It gives a seal of approval on the President’s illegal spying program. It is a betrayal of the values enshrined in the U.S. Constitution.

    One day earlier, on Thursday, June 19, the House approved the largest-war spending bill to date, caving in to George W. Bush’s call for $162 billion in war funding with no strings attached and giving his successor enough money to wage the wars until July 2009.

    Sure, there’s GI benefits and unemployment funding contained in the omnibus package. But the bottom line is this: A Democratic majority in Congress voted to continue Bush’s policies of war, corporate greed, and empire.

    Numerous postings on the website of the Connecticut Democrats over the weekend lamented these two recent votes by House Democrats. “Please, someone convince me otherwise,” one Democratic Party activist wrote in. “Tell me we have an opposition party. Or is it all a bad dream?”

    The simple truth is that there is NO opposition party in the United States.

    In November 2006, the American people — believing that the Democratic Party was committed to peace — voted in a Democratic Party majority to the Congress. True to form, the Democratic Party failed to deliver peace. True to form, the Democratic Party has failed to implement single-payer healthcare or to repeal the Patriot Act and the Bush tax cuts — to mention just two of the many pressing demands sought by the American people.

    Earlier this year, Senator Barack Obama opposed the telecom amnesty bill. But last week, he caved in to the right-wing pressures and announced his support for the bill, arguing that the American people may have to give up basic constitutional rights to save ourselves from “the grave threats we face.”

    Doesn’t this sound awfully similar to what we’ve heard from Bush and Cheney? Is this the kind of “change” that the American people are hoping to obtain through an Obama presidency?

    No. It’s not a bad dream. The United States needs an opposition party. Cynthia McKinney’s Power to the People campaign seeks to advance the struggle for such a party — one led by activists in the Black Liberation Movement and rooted in the struggles of the most oppressed. This campaign seeks to build a fightback movement in support of the demands of the working-class majority in this country, demands that are betrayed every day by the Democratic Party.

    But to be able to deliver its message, the Power to the People Committee needs your support.

    With your help, the Committee can achieve its goal of raising the $100,000 in 20 states needed by July 12th to obtain the federal matching funds. Please go to the campaign website today ( and make as generous a donation as you can.

    Please help put the Power to the People campaign on every ballot possible nationwide — so that it can provide a genuine alternative to the No-Impeachment, Illegal-Spying, Pro-War parties and their candidates. Thanks in advance for your contribution to this effort. — Alan Benjamin

    Cynthia McKinney Remarks
    In support of Cindy Sheehan’s 4th Amendment Burial March
    June 24, 2008

    Last week, Nancy Pelosi helped deal a double blow to Democratic Party grassroots supporters and to the U.S. Constitution itself. On Thursday, June 19, George Bush got another $162 billion from the Congress for war and occupation. On Friday, June 20, Nancy helped Bush give immunity to telecommunications companies that helped him spy on us!

    Fannie Lou Hamer of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party remarked that she was sick and tired of being sick and tired. And she did something about it by standing up at the Democratic Party Convention that routinely had accepted all-white, non-representative state delegations from the South.

    Well, I’m sick and tired and outraged, too. And I’m doing something about it.

    Cindy Sheehan is my choice for Congress.

    Nancy thinks that by November you will have forgotten about all of this.

    Don’t forget! Remember–in November!

    Vote Cindy! Vote Cynthia!
    It seem that Obama’s New Democratic Coalition is coming apart by Obama’s new brand of politican is not that new.

  46. for the record, i will vote for the person most qualified to be commander in chief. my vote will go to john mc cain.

    NO B-HO!

  47. We received the below about tomorrow’s 9:00 a.m. event:

    Hi, I’m trying to organize people to protest the so-called “Unity” rally the Obama campaign will stage in Unity, NH Friday, June 27th. I have a small-webpage up at that describes the event.

    I am writing to ask you to put a link up on your site, or to forward the web-address to anyone who you think may be interested in attending. I believe it is important for us to show up to this event to demonstrate that the “Unity” Obama campaign is talking about is a sham.

    We all know that this show of unity is a sham, but Obama wants to flood this small town of 1500 with 2500 of his supporters to create a staged impression of overwhelming Democratic party togetherness. His campaign wants to sell the American people a big lie by staging a fiction worthy of Hollywood.

    It can’t happen, if we “Just Say No Deal”!
    Please come to New Hampshire to let the American people know the reality, that millions of Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama in November should he be the nominee, and no amount of staged “Unity” rallies will change that fact.

  48. I wouldn’t dare post this comment anywhere else but after months of blogging here, I know everyone will understand how i feel.

    I am totally DISGUSTED by HRC’s cooperation with BO. I can’t understand HOW she can work with him much less ask her supporters to back him. I am completely disillusioned and ready to go back to my anarchist ways. Does anyone else share the sense of betrayal I’m wrestling with? 😥

  49. It’s about time for Taylor Marsh to go back to the porn business she worked in previously.

    And anybody who buys that she worked in porn as an ‘undercover’ gig for exploring women’s rights, come see me. I’ve got bridge property in Brooklyn for you to look at presently.

    Ha ha ha.

    I like Taylor and wished she hadn’t gone Judas Richardson on us but her career has been all about her. She worked in porn because SHE wanted to, not for any other reason.

    It’s amazing the stuff people will float and some will believe.

    Try harder, Taylor. That was a good try but anyone who has done a cursory look at your background would see the ‘I did it for women’s rights’ trial balloon as the sham which it is.

    Good luck with ‘sweetie;’ you’re going to need it.

  50. djia Says:
    I think sitting home and write in’s are completely useless…

    They’re not completely useless. They’re just half as useful as a vote for McCain. 🙂

    As something to tell the DNC now, I think “I’m voting for McCain” might sound more serious, less likely to change our minds on later. But realistically, staying home is easier, and once a person gets into the voting booth, old habits may take over….

  51. basil9

    today’s news covered th MO forum with NH women. talk about a puke-fest. how many women will be charmed by the “new and improved michelle?” she was laying it on real thick with the hillary praise. my question, where was that charm when asked if she would support hillary should she be the nominee?

    what bullshit. just like the hillary endorsement of BHO. yeah, it makes me sick, but hillary proclaimed her support way back. i see it as being a woman of her word. BHO and MO would NEVER have done it if the roles were reversed.

    hillary does what she says. like it or not.

  52. Basil

    I know how you feel, I have had the same feelings about HRC myself

    I really think what she is doing is not being the “fighter” she said she was. IMHO

  53. Basil: I agree with you, but I think, Hillary is thinking long term and trying to survive this fraud of an election. If she didn’t, she would be marginalized, which may still happen.

  54. Alcina,

    Thanks for your reply. I think there are times in life when cliff-jumping is the most honorable, the only conceivable course of action and I’m saddened that HRC hasn’t taken the high road, severed all ties and either gone Indy or just cleanly extricate herself from the party. There’s no way i can condone her becoming just another BO sock-puppet. Going from an abusive campaign into a humiliating post-campaign rally for her opponent reminds me of a battered wife returning to her abuser, the victim enabling the aggressor.
    On a lighter note, check this funny pro-Johnny you-tube.


    The first ‘unity’ that the Dem party is going to have is when either Hillary Clinton or John McCain is the next president.

    Until that time, PUMA.


    Cynthia McKinney.

    You know what, she could be useful in pulling AA votes away from Bambi. I think she should be aided for just that reason.

    She can take votes from Bambi on FISA and on Israel and any chance to work those fault lines should be mined like the data mining Ofraud just signed off on.

  56. It bothers me a great deal to hear the media say that if someone does not endorse Obama, they are ‘bitter’. I am now hearing them say that about Bill Clinton. I hope Bill never endorses him.

  57. dijia, birdgal,

    She’s going to be marginalized no matter what she does so she might just as well have gone out with dignity, IMHO. BO, Cruella, Coward, Horseface and company will take every opportunity to screw her. Just look at that pic of Rangle and Pooplosi smirking in the background as HRC returned to the senate.

    HRC reminds me of Hester Prynne in the Scarlet Letter but this is the 21st century, not the 17th and IMHO HRC shouldn’t have caved.

  58. Bill came out with a statement, through a spokesperson, offering support. This was a day or two ago. Currently, Bill is in Europe (I think), doing work for his foundation.

    I don’t get all this “unity” crap. Towing the party line, seems undemocratic and hypocritical.

  59. alcina:

    Thankfully for those of us opposed to Obama, Michelle is, at her core, a bitch.

    And I mean that as no general disrespect to women but as a mere statement of fact as regards what that word is intended to mean.

    That is, not all or even very many women are ‘bitches,’ much as not all or even many men are ‘jerks’ or ‘pr*cks,’ or what have you.

    Michelle, however, is a bitch. She chose to be so and has only reinforced that perception over the course of the primaries. Not only is she a bitch, she is both happy and proud to be so.

    Great. That makes things a lot easier for us.

    Because a person can only hide who they are for so long. There isn’t a ‘makeover’ in this world that can stop Michelle from being Michelle.

    And so we say, Bring Her On. Michelle cannot get enough press coverage as far as I’m concerned.

    That Michelle, she’s just so damn ‘pathetic.’

    Ha ha ha.

  60. …that Senator Obama is likely one of the shrewdest, calculating, and talented politicians ever to rise up.

    I don’t think Obama is as swift as we are led to believe. I think the idea of him being talented or intelligent is highly overrated. Almost like they have to tell us that over and over so we will think it’s true.

  61. I think we should all be using a tag line quoting DB in our signatures online in blogs
    something like

    “NOTE TO BASE” NObama NOvember!…PUMA!

  62. Breaking news:
    Lanny Davis says BO agreed to help pay of HRC’s debt in a meeting tonight and contributed $2300 to that end.

    Davis says BO is doing the right thing by beginning the healing process. (barf). Says HRC’s supporters anger is not directed at BO but at the media. Says BO agreed the sexist remarks need to be addressed. F*** HIM! Too little too late!

    Says BC will no doubt support BO and campaign for him in the fall. I feel ill. 😥 (transcribed from H&C)

  63. What the HECK, Lanny Davis saying we are mad at the media and not at the Fraud. Has Lanny forgotten fingergate, dusting off my shouldersgate, clawscomeoutgate, feelingdowngate!! OMG the whole party has swallowed their pride and are kneeling in front of the Messiah. Well forget it Lanny, not with my vote. I will vote for anybody BUT bambi!!

  64. I got to see most of lanny too, I think lanny did his best to follow the talking points
    not so certain he believes them…

    he also stated that everything he has ever written about BHO in past he believed then and he still believes now

    so that is my clue that lanny hasn’t drank the kool aid just yet

  65. Ah, it appears that the reality that the Clintons supporters are NOT going to Bambi is beginning to settle in.

    Know this: If Ofraudma wasn’t worried about this he wouldn’t be cutting checks to HRC.

    Good, let him help Hillary retire her debt. It is the least reparation he can pay her for what he did.

    And when the debt is all taken care of and we still sink his ass in November (if the coup is carried out in August), then we can all laugh at the dork with the big ears who tried to kiss our butts for votes after calling us racists.

    You don’t get it, Barack: Lanny Davis and others will say what they have to say, but we’re not falling in line with you and never will.

    But by all means, retire Hillary’s debt. When McCain is elected we want Hillary to be free and clear to clean up the mess you and the DNC made. And the best way for that to happen is for her to have no debt.

    We say jump, Ofraudma says ‘How high?’

    What a joke. Total whore for votes he is never going to get.

    Same old politics, ain’t a damn thing changed.


  66. basil9 Says:

    June 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
    I wouldn’t dare post this comment anywhere else but after months of blogging here, I know everyone will understand how i feel.

    I am totally DISGUSTED by HRC’s cooperation with BO. I can’t understand HOW she can work with him much less ask her supporters to back him. I am completely disillusioned and ready to go back to my anarchist ways. Does anyone else share the sense of betrayal I’m wrestling with

    Yes, i am with you on this one, I am disgusted with everyone that supported Hillary and is now on O’s bandwagon

  67. Yes, i am with you on this one, I am disgusted with everyone that supported Hillary and is now on O’s bandwagon

    Not everyone: PUMA

  68. Some here seems to wavering on who they want for the president of the united states.

    If you want BO to lose the election. All write ins and Nader votes will guarantee BO wins the election, He is counting on this. How terrible can it be to vote for McCain against Barack Hussein Obama. If you are thinking about not voting for McCain and voting for Nader or writing in Hillary’s name. You might as well vote for Barack Hussein Obama.

  69. Barack Obama donates to Hillary Clinton and asks his top donors to do same to reduce her debt
    By NEDRA PICKLER and SARA KUGLER , Associated Press
    Last update: June 26, 2008 – 8:36 PM

    WASHINGTON – Barack Obama told Hillary Rodham Clinton’s top financial backers Thursday that he personally has donated $2,300 to her campaign and more significantly has asked his biggest donors to help pay off her more than $20 million debt.
    Obama made the announcement at a meeting with Clinton donors who have been frustrated that the Democratic presidential nominee-in-waiting had not done more to help her pay the bills even as they are expected to help fund his campaign.
    The size of Obama’s donation is the most he can contribute under federal law.
    He received a standing ovation from the crowd of more than 200 when he said he would enlist his supporters to help pay off her debt, said Tom McMillen, a retired NBA player and former Democratic congressman from Maryland who attended. The meeting was closed to the media.
    “It was really about unifying the party,” McMillen said.
    Clinton adviser Terry McAuliffe said Obama himself wrote a check to Clinton.
    “When the two of them walked into the room, the room erupted,” he said. “This campaign has ended. Hillary Clinton has said we’ve all got to get together.”
    McAuliffe said after speaking, Clinton and Obama took questions ranging from helping with the debt to promoting a joint ticket.
    The meeting was part of a two-day effort to show unity between the former rivals who competed fiercely for the Democratic presidential nomination.
    Clinton spoke to two trade groups earlier Thursday before she introduced Obama to her most loyal fundraisers. Behind the scenes, the two sides were negotiating the extent of her future involvement in Obama’s campaign.
    “I am asking you to do everything you can to help elect Barack Obama,” Clinton told the American Nurses Association, a 2.9-million member group that backed her candidacy. “I have debated him in more debates than I can remember and I have seen his passion and his determination and his grit and his grace. In his own life he has lived the American dream.”
    Clinton and Obama plan to appear together for the first time since the end of the primary on Friday in symbolic Unity, N.H. — where each got 107 votes in the state’s January primary. Clinton won New Hampshire in an upset that set the stage for their long campaign, and it is now a critical battleground for the general election.
    Obama told reporters Wednesday that he thinks she’ll be extraordinarily effective in speaking for his candidacy and he’d like to have her campaigning for him as much as she can. “I think we can send Senator Clinton anywhere and she’ll be effective,” Obama said.
    But the extent of her travel for Obama is not clear. Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Wednesday that they have not scheduled any events after New Hampshire. “We don’t have any specific knowledge of her schedule past Friday,” Plouffe said.
    Three Clinton confidants — Cheryl Mills, Minyon Moore and Robert Barnett — are in talks with Obama’s campaign to work out details of her future involvement, including travel, her role at the national convention and resolution of her more than $20 million debt. Part of their argument is that Clinton can spend more time helping Obama if she isn’t raising money to pay her bills.
    Some Clinton supporters, including some of those at Thursday’s fundraiser meeting, have been frustrated with Obama’s efforts to help Clinton with her debt while they are raising even more money for him. In response, the Illinois senator has asked five of his top donors to coordinate an effort to do so.
    “As those of you who were on the call yesterday heard, Barack has asked each of us to collect five or six checks to help Senator Clinton repay the people who provided goods and services to her campaign,” finance chair Penny Pritzker said Wednesday in an e-mail to Obama’s national finance committee. “He made this request in the spirit of party unity. Senator Clinton has promised to do everything she can to help us beat John McCain.”
    Clinton’s debt includes $12 million of her own money. She has said she is not asking for help to pay back that portion.
    Obama told reporters Wednesday he wouldn’t send an e-mail asking his small-dollar contributors to donate to Clinton because “their budgets are tighter” and they probably couldn’t make much of a dent.
    Clinton’s encouragement came 19 days after she suspended her campaign and endorsed Obama. Since then, she has stayed largely out of sight at her home in New York and on vacation in the Hamptons, with brief public appearances for journalist Tim Russert’s funeral and a high school commencement address. She returned to the Senate this week, and was roundly embraced by Democratic caucus members in front of news cameras.
    An Associated Press-Yahoo News poll out Thursday shows Obama has won over slightly more than half of Clinton’s former supporters. About a quarter of Clinton’s backers say they will support McCain over Obama.
    Associated Press writers Beth Fouhy and Devlin Barrett contributed to this report.

  70. Exactly why didn’t Michelle give her 2300 to Hillary? I thought a couple could give more??

    I am going to vote for McCain, sometimes I just get a little nauseous at the thought of it though, although he is a patriot!

  71. I was going to send a check to Hillary for her campaign debt. Now i don’t think i will. I am so disgusted with this whole process. I know she has debts, why lay down with the devil to get her debt paid.

    I have travel for Hillary to PA and Ind, I have volunteered at the headquarters here in University Hts.Oh.
    I have listened to her Chelsea, and Bill on the campaign trail. I have heard what she said about Barack. For her now to campaign with him as if everything is ok, i don’t see it. I could never co signed with a person i don’t believe in. I just don’t understand it.

    I hope McCain beats the pants off him. After the convention i will work my heart out to see this man defeated

  72. As a Registered Nurse, I hope, the American Nurses Association does not endorse BHO. His health plan or lack thereof, is a sham. Part of the reason for the high cost of healthcare, is the large population of uninsured people, who misuse the ER’s for primary care purposes. In addition, the uninsured do not receive preventive services, which leads to more complex chronic care illnesses, which drive up the cost of healthcare. By not covering everyone, the cost of health care becomes greater. Optional health care does not work.

  73. djia Says:

    djia Says:

    June 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    BHO….uh…uh… umm… ummm……27 times in 10 minutes does not = intelligence

    When he is doing that. He is trying to think of a lie he can tell

  74. As much as i would prefer RN to JM , I will vote JM just because i want to ensure that B H O won’t president

  75. As I heard someone say: If NObama loses this fall, Hillary will likely run in 2012. Of course, I am still hoping she will be the official nominee in August.

  76. Basil:

    Thanks, that was great! I love Manning and often check out his videos but I hadn’t seen that one. Excellent stuff.

    Michelle is one of the most spiritually repugnant (that is, her soul is ugly) people I have ever seen. She is a bitter, ungrateful bitch who also happens to be a money- and power-hungry slob.

    She is awful, just unbearable. She radiates hate and anger and entitlement mentality.

    I could care less what color she is. She reminds me of Teresa Heinz Kerry, another loser who lucked into good fortune and thinks she’s been voted goddess to the world.

    But Teresa’s not nearly as belligerent.

    People want to put Mish in some bubble, explain away her crap and inoculate her from criticism by trying to play the race card. That’s what BaJoke was trying to do with his whole “the GOP better not go after her” crap.

    Or what, BaJoke? You’re not going to show up for the cover shoot of Mad Magazine next month? You and/or your ears will boycott your parts in “Gone With the Wind?”

    Shut up already. Nobody is afraid of you or the race card.

    Michelle is an out and out bitch. If you look that word up here:

    …the definition says

    A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing

    Michelle Obama is one of the most spiteful, overbearing, arrogant people you will ever come across, man or woman. She is a bitch, regardless of her ethnicity or anything else.

    The DNC, Emily’s List or whomever has been sending out donation requests so that they can ‘protect’ Michelle from the ‘sexist attacks’ against her.

    What sexist attacks? The ones that characterize her as a strident bitch?

    That ain’t sexism, Virginia Slims. That’s what is known as ‘truth in advertising.’

    And I’m all for that.

  77. Neetabug, I know I just don’t get the politics of stab your opponent in the back and be your best friend next week. I just can’t forget what they said about Hillary! So I will vote for the person who will do the most damage to the Bambino Tribe!

  78. I was reading over at No Quarter today and saw that Blogjevich implecated Obama, and Pelosi in the Rezko stuff. So no wonder Pelosi is making sure that impeachment is off the table for Bush&Co.

  79. BHO….uh…uh… umm… ummm……27 times in 10 minutes does not = intelligence

    When he is doing that. He is trying to think of a lie he can tell

    yep he cant stop lying…he comes on tv i gotta remote fast lol..i get sick to my stomach even to look at him imagining him against america ..he is against us.his actions and words are not true in 1/2 second i can tell he is lying,when he gives this flowery speech crap .with LIAR PRINTED on his mouth BEFORE He speaks
    him standing there for Questions.when hillary is around him and her supporters need to ask Questions after Question.and dont stop until they are answered.

  80. Hillary is thinking long term and trying to survive this fraud of an election. If she didn’t, she would be marginalized, which may still happen.

    Hillary hasn’t figured out yet that she and Bill have been uncermoniously dismissed from the New Democratic Party.

    She’ll figure it out when the Party throws a ton of money at a primarly challenger for her NY Senate Seat.

    She’s lost her mind if she thinks she has future in the New Democratic Party.

  81. Campaigning for the Dems:

    I fully accept that Hillary has to do what she has to do. But her husband and us have to do what we have to do, too. Vote John McCain.
    Who actually thinks Bill Clinton will be voting for Obama!

  82. from NOQuarter:

    So much for being a uniter:

    Barack, you may be from Illinois, but you are no Abraham Lincoln. You may be tall and you may be a great speaker, but you lack President Lincoln’s magnanimity and vision. Lincoln, in the waning days of the Civil War, ignored his supporters who wanted revenge on the South and sought reconciliation. His words from his second inaugural address still resonate:

    With malice toward none, with charity for all, …let us strive on to finish the work we are in, …to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

    Barack had his opportunity tonight to start healing the rifts in the Democratic party and, to put it bluntly, he flopped. (CNN is giving the Barack spin, but don’t believe it.) I am told from people who attended the fundraising soiree at the Mayflower Hotel that the One was a dud.

    Hillary, ever the good trooper and team player, gave Barack an intro to her big dollar donors and an opportunity to start the healing. But Barack continues to play the role of petulant bore. He gave an uninspired, mechanical speech. The charm exhibited on the campaign trail that left women swooning, was missing in action. Folks from the Hillary camp described the speech as snobbish, arrogant, and boring. But it was Barack’s response to questions from Hillary’s supporters that produced sour bile.

    1. What about the Vice President slot? The questioner told Barack that if he named Hillary as the Vice President that the Democrats would be in a position to own the White House for the next 16 years. Barack said nothing to give Clinton supporters hope that he would consider the Senator from New York.

    2. Will you help Hillary retire her debt? On this one Barack said he had written a check for $2300 (note, no check from Michelle), but that his real interest was getting access to the phone lists of Hillary’s donors and contacts. Hillary supporters at the gathering sat on their hands, their checkbooks, and their lists.

    3. What will you do to stop the sexist smear of Hillary? The questioner noted that Barack did nothing to quell the rampant sexist attacks on Hillary during the campaign and that she continues to be brutalized. Barack said, “Yes, I know. But there is another woman who has been brutalized as well. The healing will take a long time to fix.”

    So there you have it. No vision. No magnanimous gesture. It is still all about Barack and Michelle. Most of the Hillary supporters left unassuaged. Instead of a promise from Barack to tell his supporters to stop the attacks on Hillary and her supporters, he essentially put his hands in his pockets and shrugged his shoulders.

    Let’s be clear. The recently concluded Democratic party primary season does not even begin to compare to the death and horror that convulsed America during the Civil War. But the hurt feelings and anger among Hillary supporters are real. And Barack’s refusal to tackle this issue head on is but one other reminder that he is not ready to unite a nation fractured by political strife. We know Mr. Lincoln, and you sir are no Abraham.

    I loathe BHO.

  83. For someone, who paints himself as a uniter, he has created more divisiveness, hatred, and unrest than just about any candidate (besides Ted Kennedy in 1980). How in the he**, is he going to meet on diplomatic terms with our enemies, and our allies? His arrogance is mind boggling. I don’t know, how he can walk through a door, without banging his head against the doorjam.

  84. • neetabug Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
    basil9 Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
    I wouldn’t dare post this comment anywhere else but after months of blogging here, I know everyone will understand how i feel.
    I am totally DISGUSTED by HRC’s cooperation with BO. I can’t understand HOW she can work with him much less ask her supporters to back him. I am completely disillusioned and ready to go back to my anarchist ways. Does anyone else share the sense of betrayal I’m wrestling with
    Yes, i am with you on this one, I am disgusted with everyone that supported Hillary and is now on O’s bandwagon
    Basil, Neeta…please, hold my hand. Tonight, I feel the same way you do. And yet, I hear a wee voice telling me not to give up, to never count her out, that she must have a plan, that she will rise out of Denver, and be 44. I want a miracle. I want a Hollywood ending where justice triumphs, the fighter for the people wins and so on. She helped me to believe again in our American way. If she is beaten, there is no justice, no nothing. It’s bad enough to watch our culture erode into hate-filled music, drugs, sleazy sex, macho violence etc etc. I wanted to believe again in something good about our country, but everywhere I look outside my yard full of flowers, I can’t see — tonight, anyway – where the good is anywhere. Tomorrow, I’ll be out giving out campaign materials and spouting talking points to help O’Reilly beat Kerry. I’ll feel glad to be doing something to help cure this mess, but tonight I am so glad you all are here. Thank you.

  85. yep hillary said this i want you to do everything to help elect barack obama.. and ya know what …that is not the real hillary saying that..i watched her for to many years..that was a flukeie of sincerity on the stage with him..of what she said.i wished she wake up and should have ran independent..get out of that flawed fake democratic party and start your own..
    she switched once for goldwater days..she can do it again.she is still my inspiration and always will be no matter what.

  86. she can do all that fakeness for telling us to help elect barack obami nope hillary …no can do never for a fraud or a LIAR!!!

  87. okay yall, don’t go borderline personality on us. Don’t you even think about turnin’ on Hillary. Hillary is doing what she feels is best. You honestly have no idea what is goin’ on in her conversations with BHO, do ya? If ya do, then please discuss. What do you want her to do. Say, no you big asshole fascist, I wouldn’t support you if you were the next to the last dog that died? Well, so would I. But the reality of the situation is that we are in a fair mess in this country. No, make that a monumental pile o’ shit. This is bigger than a person; it’s not about Hillary. She’s got the greater good in her mind. Her ultimate goal is to have the power to do good. She can’t do that if she’s thrown out in the street. You never burn your bridges unless you know exactly where ya gotta go and how you got to get there. Mollyj has spoken.

  88. he is a no sense he is not aware of anything in the America he has not been in that seat in the senate he has missed all votes he does not know what is going on ..he is out of touch with America he has been out of that seat since he announced.he is a fraud ..but ill tell ya if he thinks montana is in his favor he is wrong friends have told the gossip is MCcain and the rev wrong on his shoulders and ayers rezko they do not want him near the white house. will not win him montana…these are friends who are reall political might be close but mccain will pull ahead in a general election,in Montana

  89. CJ, More than once I have wished, wished, wished that we could start a new party, cause I don’t think the Demoncrats do it for me anymore. They’ve pulled off the biggest fascist coup in my lifetime. I am completely disgusted and we need radical action. Lots of people are considerin’ this and I think we will all know ultimately what course we need to take. Some folks have already decided and are goin’ over to McCain but that’s not right for me. But neither is goin’ out and supportin’ somebody who has circumvented the foundations of our democratic process.

  90. Molly

    that may still happen,, it just won’t happen during this election season, but most likely will be a result of it

  91. your like molly mee to a new party,and your correct this democratic party is cahutes..yes and mccain isnt right either so until someone opens a a party for me then ill join..i will not donate or pass out 100’s flyers door to door for anyone except the one i voted for.
    and that was my part of helping her.and there are several others who will not budge either.

  92. I understand djia, I am holdin’ out for the miracle too. I am wonderin’ what to do next. And sending money to BHO is not an option.

  93. mollyjrichards Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 12:25 am

    I am completely disgusted and we need radical action. Lots of people are considerin’ this and I think we will all know ultimately what course we need to take.
    Molly, what radical action do you have in mind?

  94. # confloyd Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    I was reading over at No Quarter today and saw that Blogjevich implecated Obama, and Pelosi in the Rezko stuff. So no wonder Pelosi is making sure that impeachment is off the table for Bush&Co.

    NO SHIT???!!!! got a link to the story????!!!!

  95. lil ole grape, I jus don’t know at this point. I think some of the groups who are organizin’ now are good. I think takin’ the definitive steps of “takin’ the pledge” and deliverin’ it to the party and DNC is a big step. It doesn’t seem all that “radical” but hell, it beats sitting around and watching Mr. I wannabe a dictator bust knuckles with his wife. Ultimately, we need a new party. We need to speak out at every opportunity. The thing that concerns me the most is the control this coalition has of the media.

  96. im holding out to.. we got a few months yet…gaffe after gaffe..and mistake after mistakes
    we cant hear about that everyday that will get old
    and he will ousted.people are starting a lilttle bit paying attention and some are catching on quick
    to lies and BIG Liars’s

  97. I wish she would declare herself a write in or run as as independent in November. She’d have 18 million votes.this above was on her blog.

    ..and there is lotts who want this and hillary i wish you would consider ya got 18 mill close to 19.. and many more,because they are just finding about about this bo..

    i hope she still reads these for relax time and lol at us..she needs to look at it serious wise though too.there are things she said on the trail and they were from was exact words to.

  98. Hill, Yes! O., No!

    The Battle Isn’t Over for Many Women Who Fought for Clinton

    By Kevin Merida
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, June 27, 2008; Page C01
    For several weeks, some of Hillary Clinton’s fiercest supporters, most of them women, have been struggling with a defeat that burns and a question with no soothing answer: What next?
    Sometimes anger settles in the mind like sediment, waiting to be shaken or stirred.
    Diane Mantouvalos is an anger-shaker. The night before Clinton announced the suspension of her campaign, Mantouvalos was at home in Miami checking posts on her blog and sensing a mood that went beyond disillusionment, beyond sadness, beyond “I’m upset and bummed out.” As co-creator of, which describes itself as “a forum of power chics for Hillary,” Mantouvalos hangs out on the sassy edge of the blogosphere. Feeling more empowered than embittered, the public relations consultant wondered: “Wouldn’t it be great if we could thread all of these disparate factions and form one coalition?” A brassy coalition of rebels.
    On June 8, the evening after Clinton conceded the Democratic presidential contest to Barack Obama, Mantouvalos organized a conference call with some 40 bloggers, political activists and other hardened loyalists of the New York senator’s, in what became “a jam session of very intense opinion” — about the party, its leadership, its presumptive nominee, the media. Five hours later, Mantouvalos, age “north of 35,” had built a new Web site,, which has become a clearinghouse for the renegade forces that are now confounding Democratic Party officials and Obama campaign operatives.
    Democratic leaders insist — and polls indicate — that the vast majority of Clinton supporters, including women, already have flocked to Obama or eventually will. But the effectiveness of the Internet as an organizing tool for dissent is creating concern and uncertainty about the scope and intensity of those unwilling to fall in line.
    While Clinton and Obama are scheduled to campaign together today in the symbolic New Hampshire town of Unity, many in this loose confederation of nonconformists have embraced a mantra that runs counter to the notion of reconciliation: “Party Unity My Ass.” They have taken to calling themselves “Pumas” and have adopted as their logo — on T-shirts and Facebook pages — the portrait of a snarling cougar. Though not all have the same specific grievances or agree on a course of protest, they are linked by their dissatisfaction with the primary process and its result, and are unpersuaded by the gestures of heroine Hillary.
    Several groups are planning marches in Denver, the site of this summer’s Democratic National Convention. Others are organizing a Clinton write-in campaign or have switched to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), creating sites to promote his candidacy. Some have more targeted interests, such as establishing an ongoing critique of misogyny in the media, pressing for changes in Democratic National Committee rules on delegate selection, even the ouster of national party chairman Howard Dean. “Howard Dean is running this party like it is a Soviet-style dictatorship,” fumed Faith Chatham, a Clinton delegate to the Texas Democratic convention.
    In Texas, where the complaints about party leadership have been persistent and noisy, some Clinton stalwarts are trying to mount challenges to the Democratic caucus results. “It ain’t over,” said Harriet Irby, a longtime Democratic precinct chairwoman in Tarrant County, claiming there were many irregularities and insisting that she will sit out the presidential election if Obama is the nominee, and vote only for down-ballot Democrats this fall.
    Some of the dissenters have gotten creative, if silly. Organizers of have introduced “Operation Donation Vacation,” urging prospective donors to send a check to the DNC for zero dollars. Watching the collective efforts of the Just Say No Deal coalition take root is pure delight for Mantouvalos.
    “Oh, we’re up to no good,” she said, her voice coated with mischief. “We just can’t stop ourselves. What can I say?”
    The Internet has a viral way of gathering and emboldening the like-minded, who speak to each other online, share information, inflame each other’s passions. Hard-fought presidential primary battles have always produced disenchantment, fury and other strong emotions that are difficult to tamp out. Tensions lingered between the troops of Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford in 1976, of Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter in 1980, of Jesse Jackson and Walter Mondale in 1984. But there was no online world to stoke the embers back then, no vehicle for instant gratification and empowerment.
    “With the Internet, it makes being a jihadi a lot easier and cheaper than it used to be,” quipped Jody Powell, a close aide to Carter, whose defeat in 1980 was helped along by a divisive Democratic National Convention. Powell added, however, that the big difference between 1980 and 2008 is that this year Clinton and her leading surrogates are moving quickly to quell hostilities and bring opposing camps together. In 1980, Powell said, “the losing candidate, Senator Kennedy, and his senior people were pretty actively engaged in fueling this stuff.”
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  99. Djia, Rezko watch as this link posted its from the Chicago Tribune. Looks like things are getting hot for the GOvernor.
    h t t p : / / n ew sblo gs.chicago clout_st /2008/01/blagojevich-tri.html

  100. djia, I haven’t had much time for the blog or politics for that matter, things at work sux! The a hole man I work for is MCP. He gets up in the women’s faces and treats the males like kings. He is a horrible, horrible man. I have been an xray tech for over 20 years and I have never worked for anything like this. The women on this blog if they know what this idiot does to his female employees they would help me storm the office. LOL!! I did manage to put a hitch in his behind before I left, he may think twice before he messes with a mean ass woman like me again!! The bA^&%$# reminds me of BO, they are from the same town, Chicago.

  101. Think of it this way… Let’s say Hillary pulls off an August coup and somehow manages to win the Dem nomination. Wonderful, but she can’t win the GE without support from at least some Obamabots. The party will have to unify for real then, and she’ll have two months to pull it off. So isn’t it better if she starts reaching out to the bHo supporters now? Yeah, it’s painful for us to watch. But it would be political suicide for her to tell those people to F off. She has to play nice right now. That’s what the Unity rally is all about. I don’t expect she’ll be doing many more of these things, but it’s necessary for her to go through the motions once in awhile and make it look like she’s putting forth some effort to bring the Dems together. She cannot publicly support the PUMA/Just Say No Deal movement, but I am sure she is aware that we exist and I’ve noticed she hasn’t done anything to stop us.

    No, I don’t believe for a minute that Hillary truly wants bHo to be our next president. She has to say it, but she doesn’t have to mean it. I haven’t yet heard her say it in a manner that convinces me she *does* mean it. I also don’t believe for a minute that she trusts Bambi as far as she can throw him. She’s like an atheist who’s being forced to go to church– she’ll bow her head along with the congregation so as not to offend them, but she ain’t feeling the spirit.

    As for Bwack, with his massive persecution complex, does anyone believe he trusts the Clintons and wants them around his campaign? He wants Hill’s donors’ $$$ and he wants her supporters to vote for him, but he doesn’t want to share the stage with Hillary or with Bill. He’ll toss them under the bus. I expect they know they’re gonna get tossed under that bus. Hillary and Bill are extraordinarily intelligent. They know what’s going on. They know what they have to do. I don’t enjoy watching it right now, but I trust their judgment.

  102. the new us world news tommorw paper comes out
    friday.1st addition if you dont get it might be at borders or magazine stands…its all truth to… from second amendment all kinds of columns jounalist will be wriitng over 200 of them destruction should be on your doorsteps friday thru america…

  103. I just left a comment on the WaPo article. The MSM can no longer deny what is going down. It’s there and all the respectable polls are showing it.

    Bambi has nowhere to go but to try to work the Clinton donors and supporters. That’s not going to work and is only going to piss people off more with his fraudulent self.

    Bring it on, Bambi. You are getting set-up right now for your Dukakis moment, goofball.

    All that arrogance and snobby crap is about to be replaced by a totally punked-out, gutless begging.

    Can’t wait to see you crumbled and then vote against you, Stick Man. You brought this on yourself and now you are going to pay the price and see what the other side of the coin feels like.


  104. Don’t become frustrated just keep on taking a STAND and NO Obama in NOvember.

    Don’t buy in to the MSM propaganda for Obama….most of those in the media have sold themselves to the political party…so they have tied themselves to Obamaland so the fall will start slowly and then at the end come rushing down.

    Obambi is TOAST and will be taking many people over the clift.


    Yet another Obama reversal at full speed

    Obama supports supreme court reversal of gun ban

    · Candidate’s stance at odds with former position
    · Democrat backs death penalty for child rapist

    Is there anything this guy will not say to get, he is the worst kind of chameleon. Voters remember this, he will steal a policy, he will reverse a policy, he will flip flop at the drop of a hat, not some one you can trust and oh, democrats in congress, if you think this guy will back you in congress, think again. He’ll stab you in the back as quick as look at you.

  106. Here is the link confloyd mentioned to the Blagojevich video and article (indirectly) implicating BO in the Rezko scam.

    HWC – sadly, i agree with you.
    “Hillary hasn’t figured out yet that she and Bill have been uncermoniously dismissed from the New Democratic Party.

    She’ll figure it out when the Party throws a ton of money at a primarly challenger for her NY Senate Seat.

    She’s lost her mind if she thinks she has future in the New Democratic Party.

  107. Hillary, Bill and Chelsea will disappear behind the voting curtain and hit a tab for the Dems they support (if any now that Rangel deserted her, too) and come out smiling. The button for BHO WON’T be one they hit, you can be sure.

    In Texas, even though you can switch party affiliation, you must go one direction to vote Dem and the other Republican, as the two are in different locations on election day. If this is the same in NY(?), since they can’t obviously take the Republican route, they will appear to vote for BHO, but of course, WON’T.

  108. What am I talking about? He’ll be SOOOOO exposed by then, we can only pray for a miracle that the HRC will be up for PREZ. I do believe in miracles, I do I do I do…………

  109. • Jen the Michigander Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 1:43 am
    “She’s like an atheist who’s being forced to go to church”
    Good analogy – in fact I appreciate everything you said in those 3 paragraphs – very interesting point you made about her reaching out NOW …hadn’t thought of that.

  110. I don’t blame Hillary in the least. She has to do the practical thing and retire her debt, tow the party line, and go along with the nominee. It is a sad reality, but she wants to run again, and needs to keep her options open. Hopefully, he will lose and 2012 will come soon enough.

  111. a very affective Ad!!!

    I posted the article on McCain’s New Strategy against B H O way up at the top of this thread if anyone cares to read it

  112. Why Not a McCain-Powell Ticket?

    By Juan Williams
    NPR Senior Correspondent/FOX News Political Contributor

    As John McCain considers his options for a running mate the obvious choice is Colin Powell. So far, however, it appears not obvious to McCain or Powell.

    Columnist Robert Novak’s column earlier this week suggested that Powell fits in with neo-conservatives who are angry with the failings of the Bush administration and rushing to join the Obama campaign. Novak proposes that Sen. Chuck Hagel and Powell, two military veterans and Republicans, are likely to join forces with Obama. As for Powell, Novak writes, “Powell likely will enter Obama’s camp at a time of his own choosing.”

    I’d be surprised if Powell endorses Obama. One person very close to Powell put it to me this way on Thursday: “He and John are good friends.” But let’s take it a few steps up the ladder of political possibilities. Why not a McCain-Powell ticket?

    With Powell on the GOP ticket McCain’s standing with independent voters will go from a slight lead to a widening, awe-inspiring gap. With that one step he can erase the three to six point lead that Obama holds in most polls.

    Powell is a more experienced version of Obama. He is also a proven American military hero. And to paraphrase Obama from his recent prediction that his opponents will make an issue of his race, did I mention that Powell is black.

    Powell will magnify the risk factor associated with Obama and give the independent voters comfort in knowing they can make history without the anxiety of handing the keys to the White House over to a young unknown.

    A recent USA Today poll had Obama up by 6 points but among Independent voters Obama held a 12 point lead. In a recent L.A. Times poll, Obama leads by 12 points but when Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are factored in the Obama lead widens to 15 points. The difference there is independent voters leaving McCain. But those independents can be recaptured and in fact they are looking to McCain to make his case to them. Right now, according to the Times poll, 54 percent of independent voters said Obama is too inexperienced. When independent voters are asked who has the right experience to be the next President the independent voters favored McCain 47 percent to 27 percent for Obama. McCain needs to focus on those independent voters and he can do that by naming Powell as his running mate.

    It is true that hard core Republicans have a history of being ambivalent about Powell. But what too often gets lost in that calculation is that Powell is a tremendous asset to the Republican Party and to McCain. Yes, he is pro-choice on abortion. Yes, he supports affirmative action. And yes, he is a man who has been quoted as saying he is at best “55 percent Republican.”

    But Powell is a winner with the American public, rated among the most respected leaders in the nation. Before the 1996 Presidential race the one Republican that scared Bill Clinton was none other than Colin Powell. According to a recent biography, Soldier – The Life of Colin Powell,” by Karen DeYoung, President Clinton worried openly that Powell was capable of capturing black voters and independent voters. “He’ll beat me bad,” Clinton is quoted as saying. But the hard right of the party kept Powell from getting to the starting line. So, too, did Powell’s wife, who was worried about Powell’s personal safety.

    Now, the Republican Party is in the re-tooling business. They have to recreate the brand. That is why John McCain was the best possible nominee for this presidential race. The maverick McCain is out-performing the 15 to 20 point spread that a generic Democratic candidate for the White House holds over a generic Republican for the White House. McCain is both a Republican and not a Republican; he is the maverick Republican.

    With Powell by his side, McCain further moves away from the damaged brand of GOP politics and captures the energy surrounding the idea of pragmatic, bi-partisan political actors with a history of achievement and knowledge of world affairs.

    With Powell on the ticket, McCain becomes the favorite.
    I think Powell is voting for Obama and is STILL mad at the Bush/Cheney treatment he rec’d. But if he think Obama is any better then is his highly mistaken…Obama is playing Corrupt Chicago Political Machine Politics and the Democratic party delusional DNC think this will get them into the WHITE HOUSE….it won’t because nobody outside a few states in the midwest want a NATIONALIZE Corrupt Chicago Political Machine.

  113. I had this vision of an awful picture,

    I was looking at the white house and Bo and Mo were sitting in lounge chairs on the balcony with big smiles on their faces, laughing and joking about, sipping their latte’s

    then I saw steam coming out of a basement window of the white house and when I looked close into the window I saw Hillary inside with her little badge on as VP of the US. She was soaked in sweat bending over an ironing board ironing a big basket of bo and mo’s clothes….

    somebody shoot me……..

  114. Joseph W. McQuaid: Get a grip, NH, Obama’s coming

    New Hampshire Union Leader Publisher
    5 minutes ago

    (here is part of this article, to read the rest click on link above)

    NEW HAMPSHIRE RESIDENTS, grab something sturdy today. Barack Obama is coming and his ability to switch positions on major issues is dizzying. It wouldn’t matter, except Obama wants to become President. If that happens, hold on for dear life.
    Editorial logo
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    This is the man who eloquently declined to disassociate himself from his hate-filled friend and pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. His “incendiary” remarks were taken out of context, Obama said. He was like family, like a grandma.

    But Obama cooly threw “grandma” under the bus when it became politically advantageous.

    This is the man who stoutly defended public financing of the presidential race, until he knew he could raise and spend millions of dollars more by refusing it. And he has the chutzpah to blame John McCain for his own hypocrisy.

    Obama professes to believe in a religiously-diverse nation. But he has declined to speak at a single mosque. His staff keeps Muslim women out of camera range and yelps bloody murder if his own middle name, Hussein, or his father and stepfather’s Muslim religion are discussed.

    Obama said he would meet personally with the President of Iran, without pre-conditions. But speaking to a pro-Israeli group a few weeks ago, he had changed his tune entirely. Iran, by the way, may now be as little as six months from building a nuclear bomb.

    Imagine having this inexperienced, opportunistic Obama in the White House with an anti-American, Islamist extremist state holding nuclear weapons.

  115. debbie Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    I had this vision of an awful picture,

    I was looking at the white house and Bo and Mo were sitting in lounge chairs on the balcony with big smiles on their faces, laughing and joking about, sipping their latte’s

    then I saw steam coming out of a basement window of the white house and when I looked close into the window I saw Hillary inside with her little badge on as VP of the US. She was soaked in sweat bending over an ironing board ironing a big basket of bo and mo’s clothes….

    That’s about right! And giving up her own Senate career to do it!

    Pls sign and circulatel these petitions AGAINST HIllary taking VP:

  116. Jen the Michigander Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 1:43 am
    Think of it this way… Let’s say Hillary pulls off an August coup and somehow manages to win the Dem nomination. Wonderful, but she can’t win the GE without support from at least some Obamabots. The party will have to unify for real then, and she’ll have two months to pull it off. So isn’t it better if she starts reaching out to the bHo supporters now?

    Right! We may be focused on Nov and 2012 because that’s all we can influence at this point — and our strength for Nov is a factor for Hillary in August. But HIllary is rightly focused on August.

    If BO implodes or partially implodes, she needs to be acceptable to the DNC and BO delegates as a ‘substitute’.

  117. We can’t blame Hillary for what the MSM , DNC, and BO did. She was cheated out of the nomination, but unlike the turncoats, she said she would support the nominee and is doing so as painful as it may be….lets not feel sorry for ourselves as we can only imagine how uncomfortable she and Bill feel.

  118. Obama Housing Policy

    Todays Boston Globe

  119. I love Hillary Clinton but I think she is making a mistake with doing this UNITY tour so early with Obambi. Maybe she has to at this moment BUT I don’t have to and I think you should NOT have to.

    The Democrats have thrown so many people under the bus this year for their grasp of power and imo they don’t deserve to be in the WHITE HOUSE with that BUNCH of MORALLY CORRUPT, DISHONOR LEADERSHIP we have in office right now.

    For Obama to move the DNC to CHICAGO tells me the FIX WAS ALREADY IN and the DNC AND WEAK DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP selected and undercut anybody else not supporting their decision.

    The DEMOCRATS THREW WOMEN RIGHTS and EQUAL RIGHTS off the bus at the start because they surmise these GROUPS will come crawling back on their knees to kiss the ring of UNITY…the LARGEST SEGMENT of the DEMOCRATIC? Taliban PARTY calculated that WOMEN will STILL VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT after being treated like crap because of those old Pavlovian Conditioning they have been doing for years.

    Roe vs Wade and the Supreme Court…yep, women will jump to male sexism and mysoginy abuse because of those two minor issues and not have to honor or fight for anything else. Men set the agenda and we are suppose to jump to their tune.

    To all those Women Organization, we have not forgotten your WEAK Leadership either. Keep on thinking that your selling out for access to this corrupted statergy will not effect your credibility. YEAH RIGHT!!!

    Keep thinking that.

  120. it’s unbelievably hot and humid with threatening skies here in NH. who knows..maybe lightening will strike? 🙂

  121. i really do not believe we will see much of hillary campaigning for B-HO after this huge staged fairy tale event. perhaps some small forum-type meetings, but no big gatherings. ( that is my hope, anyway)

  122. carbynew Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Why Not a McCain-Powell Ticket?

    Excellent article, carby. You consistently bring up good stuff here.

    And to the many other, such as universal, djia, birdgal, etc., you’re all great. We’ve helped make this a very meaningful source of information and opinion.

    BTW, see what happens when you enter the url, “”.

  123. STAY STRONG and DON’T fall for the Obamaland UNITY crap. Hillary has to do what Hillary has to do…find her backstabbers!!!

  124. rgb44hrc Says:

    June 27th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    BTW, see what happens when you enter the url, “”.

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  125. alcina Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    i really do not believe we will see much of hillary campaigning for B-HO after this huge staged fairy tale event. perhaps some small forum-type meetings, but no big gatherings.

    I agree. It’s her version of an “air kss”. “Who loves ya, baby”.

    And if the shoe were on the other foot, Obuggah would do even less, but there would have to at least be a vague attempt at making it look real.

    But the reality is that the person who doesn’t win one cycle doesn’t want to wait eight years, they want to be ready in four. I mean, it’s obvious.

    So for any Taylor Marsh type thinkers who believe “what Hillary said” (“Hey, let’s unite….”), we just think that you are not keen enough to read between the lines.

  126. Until misogyny and sexism are removed from cultures, no other form of discrimination or bias will be eliminated in this world. Women have faced these issues since time began…….longer than any racial, religion, sexual orientation, disability, etc. etc. has had to endure.

    When Nancy Pelosi said “it goes with the territory” she condoned it…this is unacceptable in any form and should always be addressed immediately.

    This issue is the issue we face in our lives today. THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE>>>>It directly effects everything…from schooling, to healthcare, to food, to housing, to income and to personal safety……there is not a single issue that is not directly related or linked in some way to misogny or sexism.

    Many men understand this and have stood on the side of women fighting for them. So what do the other guys say to them? they are weak, pu$$ies, fa@@ots, etc.

    This whole thing is out of control……… must stop now

    Hillary was and could still be our chance to begin this massive movement to end this once and for all. No matter what she decides to do we should encourage her to play a leadership role in addressing this issue on behalf of all the Americans that believe in her and even for those who don’t.

  127. A Fund-Raiser For Nader Set In Litchfield
    By: Emily M. Olson

    LITCHFIELD-Dorothea DiCecco and her husband, Mario, have opposed the war in Iraq since it began, and make their sentiments known by standing on the green every Sunday morning with signs protesting its impact on U.S. troops, the federal budget deficit and beyond.

    Now, at Mrs. DiCecco’s invi­tation, a more famous opponent of the war, and of corporate America, Ralph Nader, is coming to her home for a fund-raiser. Mr. Nader, who has family ties to Winsted, is running for president in November as an Independent Party candidate.

    “The Independent Party, of which he is now a member had a meeting last Sunday. I had thought about having a get together for him, and a fund-raiser,” said Mrs. DiCecco, a former professor of biology at the University of Connecticut who retired in 2003 after a 40-year career as an educator.

    “I mentioned it to the Inde­pendent Party people here in the area, and then Ralph called me and said that he only was available on Sunday, June 29. So I said, “I’ll do it, I’ll work it out.’ So we’re having it this Sunday, June 29, from 2 to 5 p.m.”

    She is inviting as many people as possible, and although Mrs. DiCecco would love to charge $10,000 per person for the benefit, she’s “realistic” and is only charging $100. It will be worth attending, if only to enjoy this particular resident’s food. Mrs. DiCecco is a wonderful cook. She’s not sure how much to make, though, and wants people to RSVP as soon as possible.

    “I realize the hours of the fund-raiser are after lunch and before dinner, but people should have good food. So I’m going to make a fresh summer buffet,” she said.

    Her home on Norfolk Road will be a perfect place for people to chat with Mr. Nader. “We have a nice deck that overlooks the Bantam River and that will be fun, a nice setting,” she said. “And whoever comes will be able to talk to Ralph … he wants to talk about what his mission is.”
    Mrs. DiCecco is frustrated by “many things” happening in the world today, and believes Mr. Nader’s views align with her own. She also thinks his way of thinking could influence future decisions made by candidates and elected officials around the country.

    “We feel his views, once supported, could influence other candidates,” she said. “That’s what his role is going to be in this election, to get people to believe in what he’s doing. I’m appalled by the role of corporate government and its control over what we do, and I really like what he has to say about things like that.”

    Mr. Nader’s Web site,, explains that he is “a consumer advocate, lawyer, author, and has been named by Time Magazine as one of the 100 Most Influential Americans in the Twentieth Century. For over four decades Ralph Nader has exposed problems and organized millions of citizens into more than 100 public interest groups to advocate for solutions. … His efforts have helped to create a framework of laws, regulatory agencies, and federal standards that have improved the quality of life for two generations of Americans. His groups were instrumental in enacting the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and the Safe Drinking Water Act.

    “In the past decade, Nader has dedicated himself to putting people back in charge of America’s democracy, launching three major presidential campaigns,” the site continues. “Because of Ralph Nader we drive safer cars, eat healthier food, breath better air, drink cleaner water, and work in safer environments. … In the 1980’s, with the election of President Reagan, powerful corporate interests gathered momentum and became increasingly assertive in the pursuit of their narrow interests, throwing up roadblocks to Nader’s efforts to advance the well-being of the American people.

    With the two major parties dialing for the same dollars, their differences dwindled on most major issues (single-payer healthcare, living wage, replacing fossil fuels and nuclear with many practical variants of solar power, and a foreign policy that wages peace instead of war). After working for 40 years on behalf of the health, safety and economic well being of the American people, Nader took stock of the situation: “I don’t like citizen groups being shut out by both parties in this city-corporate occupied territory-not having a chance to improve their country.”

    Mrs. DiCecco met Mr. Nader last year when he visited the Hickory Stick Bookshop in Washington to sign copies of his book, “The 17 Traditions,” about growing up in Winsted. “While he was signing the book, we got chatting, about politics and things at large, and he invited me to dinner after the signing. It was he and his sister [Claire] and my husband, Mario and I, and we had a really nice time and got to know him.”
    The friendship developed from that point, she said. “He sent me books to read, and I really enjoyed them,” she remembered. “And when he gave his speech in Waterbury a few months ago, I went to that. I wanted to reciprocate the dinner [we had shared with him]. I asked his sister Claire to come to dinner with us. But by the time he was done, all the restaurants were closed. So they came to my house, and I basically threw together a meal. We were up to midnight talking. It was a wonderful time.”

    Although some people call Mr. Nader “a spoiler” in the presidential election, Mrs. DiCecco thinks his decision to run is a good thing. “This is a democracy,” she said. “Why shouldn’t people be allowed to express their views? He’s the best choice as far as I’m concerned, and I’ve chosen to support him.”

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    “I’d like to know by [today] who’s coming so I know how much food to make,” Mrs. DiCecco said.

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