Hillary Clinton vs. Big Media

The Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi Democrats? cave in on FISA confirms vividly what we wrote yesterday:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

If we had a free press, Barack Obama would not exist politically. But we have a Big Media Party and its tool is Barack Obama – so Obama is free to bamboozle, distract and divide as much as Obama desires.

Democrats used to speak out against the malignant power of the Big Media Party. Tim Russert, Democrats understood, beat up on Democrats on his shows while enabling every Republican and every Republican initiative – from Social Security privatization to all the Bush lies on Iraq.

But no longer. Our hyper-restraint, upon hearing the news of the death of Tim Russert, met with hyperventilation in the DailyKooks-type PINO blogs and other Big Media outlets. We were accused of a lapse in manners for speaking ill of the departed by those who wanted to as quickly as possible sanitize Tim Russert’s malignant work.

Good manners and tastefulness, we were sure, would not stop creatures such as Chris Matthews from soliciting during the Russert funeral – we were not disappointed. We poked fun at the Borgia-like machinations we envisioned as the princes of Big Media backstabbed each other in the sure to come fight for succession to the Tim Russert throne. Here are some of our ruminations from Meet The Hypocrites:

Our first thoughts were vivid speculations on poor Chris Matthews. Matthews, we knew, was in Rome. We imagined a cursing, rabid Matthews demanding airplane tickets back to 30 Rock to do battle for Russert’s job. What bad luck for Chris Matthews – to be in Rome when the job he always wanted had just opened up. We knew that soon David Gregory’s name would be dragged through the mud by aspirants to Russert’s throne. Not since the time of Rodrigo Borgia would so much effort be made to capture a throne.

Olberman too, we were sure, would squeeze out some tears on air in order to make himself a contender for Russert’s throne. Chuck Todd, David Shuster, contenders all and targets all. In days to come we will see the backstabbings at NBC and the entreaties to Jack Welch and Jeff Zucker flower.

The fight for Russert’s throne we knew would be particularly vicious. And have no doubt, it is a throne they are fighting for. The Big Media Party does not see itself as reporting the news, Big Media sees itself as shaping the news. Big Media considers itself The News. That is why we are witnessing an ostentatious wall-to-wall coverage on the airwaves of the death of someone most people barely knew or cared about.

Well, the Borgian succession fight at NBC has begun:

Although MSNBC and NBC officials are flatly denying the allegations, the New York Post on Friday reported that Keith Olbermann is threatening to quit if he’s not promoted to host “Meet the Press.”

The Post also claimed that Chris Matthews was actually heard lobbying for the job during Wednesday’s memorial service for Tim Russert.

As reported at the Post’s “Page Six” column (h/t TVNewser):

“Matthews was heard loudly discussing what seemed to be his strategy for landing Russert’s “Meet the Press” show at Wednesday’s memorial reception for the NBC Washington bureau chief at the Kennedy Center in DC. After Brian Williams, Carl Bernstein, David Gergen, Barbara Walters and NBC brass eulogized their friend, Matthews huddled with an unidentified “agent type” and seemed to be plotting.

According to our spy, “Chris, with his loud voice, was going over a pitch for Tim’s job. He was saying, ‘You know, Tim’s thing was this, and my thing is that.’ It was unbelievably tacky.” […]”

Meanwhile, Matthews’ MSNBC cable cohort Olbermann, who was also at the memorial, is “threatening to quit if he isn’t installed as Russert’s replacement,” another insider said. “I know, it sounds ludicrous, but, then, Keith Olbermann is ludicrous.”

The DailyKooks-type PINO blogs fell right in line in praise of Russert. Only a very few, select, intelligent, blogs remembered the old pre-Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi Democratic contempt for Russert and the Big Media Party:

In fact, Russert “always said” a lot of things about himself–about his life; about his upbringing; about his father; about his birth neighborhood; about his own modesty; about his career. The things he said were almost always self-flattering and, once he became the nation’s most powerful journalist, endless flunkies fell into line, eager to repeat his stories.

“endless flunkies” describes the PINO blogs well.

The PINO blogs wept when Russert died. The PINO blogs joined the self-worship of Big Media broadcasts. But…

As far as we know, Russert was as decent a person, within the group, as friends and colleagues all say he was. But:

He pretty much got it wrong, in the past sixteen years, about who “the phonies”were. (He chased around after both Clintons and Gore—and largely knuckled to Cheney and Bush.)

He pretty much got it wrong about Social Security, his adopted pet issue. (He constantly cited irrelevant data while forcing the issue into every discussion. To see him trashing Candidate Gore for daring oppose partial privatization, see THE DAILY HOWLER, 5/20/02.)

And Russert pretty much got it wrong on Iraq, the policy challenge of his time. For all his fairness, civility and Jesuitical brilliance, Russert produced nothing of value in the year leading up to the war. And he embarrassed himself—we all do so at some point—when Bill Moyers asked him about this matter in an interview last year (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 6/19/08).

The PINO love of Big Media Party leader Tim Russert is easily explained: Russert hated Hillary and Russert saved Big Media tool Barack Obama. Yes… we wrote about this on November 14, 2007:

Tomorrow night instead of the male candidates called to account to their personal attacks against Hillary we will not be surprised if instead Hillary is attacked again for allegedly daring to raise the “gender card”. Instead of the sustained personal attacks against Hillary being the issue, the victim will be blamed. Russert’s misbehaviors and distortions in the previous two debates, of course, will not be mentioned.

In that same article, we quoted Geraldine Ferraro, who named Tim Russert as Hillary’s main opponent:

Barack Obama has said that, when he was attacked for 15 minutes in a prior debate, he didn’t raise his race as an issue. Fifteen minutes is not two hours, though, and I feel sure that, if Senator Obama had been subjected to so sustained an attack, plenty of other people would be talking about racism, even if he wasn’t. But then, as I’ve said before, in this country it’s still O.K. to be sexist, but not to be racist.

I’ll be watching the coming candidate debates on CNN, and if the Republican front-runner, Rudolph W. Giuliani, is the sole subject of two hours of personal attacks, I’ll rethink my position.

It will help if, next time out, John Edwards and Senator Obama stick to substantive policy disagreements with Senator Clinton. If they can’t, they’ll only prove themselves unworthy of our party’s nomination.

ABC News noted that In the two weeks since the last Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton has seen her rivals garner increased media attention with sharp rhetoric and pointed jabs at her candidacy and character.

Barack and John did not stick to “substantive policy disagreements” at that debate and yes they are “unworthy of our party’s nomination”.

Which brings us to the present:

Hillary also suggested that she would soon be making public statements about the media coverage of the campaign, as well as the ways “women were discussed,” saying that she would “be doing more on that as we go forward.” . . . Hillary . . . suggested that she’d be making public statements soon about the media’s treatment of her candidacy.

Speaking of the campaign, Hillary noted that “there were a lot of other aspects to it that people are asking about. A lot of real concerns about some of the ways we were portrayed in the media and the way women were discussed.” “I will be doing more on that as we go forward,” Hillary said.

We audaciously hope that Hillary will speak out against Big Media power. We audaciously hope that Hillary will, for once, put aside some of her wonderful graciousness and point out the inciting and exploitation of sexism and woman-hating by Barack Obama himself and the Obama campaign.

Big Media must be confronted. Hillary knows the malignant power of Big Media:

“There’s a reason for the resentment. The level of dismissive and condescending comments, not just about me—what do I care?—but about the people who support me and in particular the women who support me, has been shocking. Shocking to women and to fair-minded men. But what has really been more disappointing to me is how few voices that have a platform have spoken out against it. And that’s really why you seen this enormous grassroots outrage. There is no outlet. It is rare that you have anybody on these shows or in a position of responsibility at major publications who really says, ‘Wait a minute! What are we talking about here? I have a wife! I have a daughter! I want the best for them.’ ”

The Big Media Party must be confronted.

The Big Media tool, Obama, must be rejected in NOvember.


210 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton vs. Big Media

  1. Admin: great job. Here is something I wrote on the subject the other night in an effort to explain their perverse motivations.

    Big Media they was motivated by a vendetta that dated back to her husband’s administration, and their unsuccessful effort to drive him from office. They aspired to the role of kingmaker much as they had been in the prior two elections when they coronated Bush. They entered into a pagan orgy of bitter partisanship, wolf pack behavior and schadenfreude. As Terry McAliffe noted Hillary was treated with more disrespect than any candidate in history. Tragically, no woman in their ranks had the courage to stand up and say stop or to realize that there but for the grace of God go I

  2. After that piece was written Katie Couric had the belated courage to speak up whereupon Deranged Doberman called her the worst person of the year. Makes me want to take that goofie bastard Dolberman into a room with a crowbar and see who comes out–to coin a phrase. If he objects to that statement the only thing I can say is turnabout if fair play. When Hillary gets around to pointing out the culprits re sexism it would be appropriate to point out that msnbc made a made a market in it. Olbermans words broadcast to tens of millions across the world are an incitemnet to violence against women. He is a real wack job figuratively and literally.

  3. Name me anyone man or woman who could have prevailed against the iron triangle Big Media, the Kennedy cabal and the left wing DNC and all the bile they threw at her day by day, the rampant cheating by her opponent who outspent her by as much as 5 to 1 and still won the popular vote. I know of no one who could have done what she did against such overwhelming odds. And no one in the media is willing to acknowledge it. The only way they could beat her was by cheating.

  4. Here is a personal note of appreciation I sent to Hillary earlier this week in case you are interested:

    I am a strong supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton. I am firmly convinced that she is the greatest political leader of our time, and that history will judge her as such. Her curriculum vitae attests to the fact that she is a two term U.S. Senator (D-NY), a former First Lady of the United States, a wife and mother. Look closer and you will also see that she passed more legislation than any freshman senator in history, and was once slated to be the first female president of the American Bar Association. Go granular and you will realize that the very things which she has devoted her life to in an effort to help people, things like education and health care, have now become critical priorities in a global economy.

    Hillary Clinton entered the 2008 presidential race not as a woman per se, but as someone who would provide solutions to the country’s urgent problems, and a voice for millions of Americans who have been invisible to the power elites. She pressed hard for the full enfranchisement of all voters as she has done since the days of her youth. Along the campaign trail, women sensed her compassion, men saw her tenacity, and people began to realize that she was the only presidential candidate who understood their issues and had the moral courage to fight for them. Suddenly, the old right wing caricature of her no longer mattered. At the conclusion of the process, she won 18 million votes–more than any primary candidate in history. And, she captured the hearts and minds of millions more. I can attest to this because I served an unpaid campaign volunteer for her in five (5) states.

    She was targeted by seven opposing candidates, and an Iron Triangle of elite interests. They slandered her relentlessly on the basis of race and gender. They made a mockery of their own rules, cheated her out of the presumptive nomination and gifted it to a candidate who is dangerously unqualified for the job of President–especially now when our nation is struggling with two wars and a sinking economy.

    And now they come to us and demand that we support their candidate or else they will call us racists. Sadly, they do not understand Hillary, her supporters or the core principles at stake here. She a fighter, the cause is just, and an army will march on her command. So in the words of our poet laureate: “Rise Hillary!” Do what must be done!! We are with you every step of the way!!!

  5. One of the things I have wondered about is where does this bromide come from that Hillary is cold and calculating. Frankly, my won impression has been the very opposite. The two words I would use are warm and engaging. So why do they say cold and calculating. I believe this comes from her ability to shut out distractions and foucs with lazar precision on the issue at hand. People perceive that a cold when in fact it is nothing of the kind.

  6. One thing I don’t think the media understood is that the slings and arrows thrown at Hillary, were thrown at us also.

    So how does change happen? I don’t believe it always happens from within, like a group of males got together and said, let us give the right to vote to women because they deserved it.

    When you have a change of this magnitude, sexism, it obviously need to come from without, especially if the inside group does not want to change. That is what the women folding back into the Democratic Party does not understand. It also needs to be visible and embarrasing to them, with the Nation and the World.

    The AAs are going to show their force if things go against them and they fear that. The Women must show their force also, and it must be embarrasing and big.

    There is no way the sexist behavior will change from without. The women’s groups did show some protest, but it only resulted in apologies, not change. There is a core of AAs that go into action everytime something they don’t like is said. This core group are known people.

    We need a core group of visible people spearheading this issue, stopping the media dead in their tracks.

  7. fox news this morning making shit out of BO’s new presidential seal. comparing it to something one would create when running for student council.

    i am missing the humour. i find it frightening. all that is missing is a swastika and skull and crossbones.

  8. So, did Tim Russert have a Mother? I tried to find something on line, and nothing was there His just says born, and his two books are about his father and men.

    Is anyone else wondering about this? Did she die in child birth or what?

    My mother is my hero, but I sure would not let my Dad out of the equation.

  9. This changing the DNC to Chicago, and emblem, acting as though you have been selected are marking your territory (especially whe you are nervous), something I have seen people who take over as head of new organizations do, making it their’s. Animals do that also.

    The great leaders, don’t have to do that, history does it for them. A really great leader walks in, enables the people in the organziation, gives them all of the credit, and walks out, and the organization still stands only stronger.

  10. Good Morning all

    I am now disturbed…

    Admin, I’ll get back to you great post in a minute….but what is this about Obama having his OWN SEAL fr the Presidency?!!!!


  11. This is some really sick shit. The hubris of this man is horrifying. I just looked it up….

  12. and the double entendre in Possumus….

    “playing Possum” is all that comes to mind with me

    Pretending that you one thing, when in fact, you are another and “fooling” (or day I say…Bamboozling?”) your viewer…..

  13. Another warning sign that this IS a Manchurian Candidate indeed. NO RESPECT AT ALL for American Institutions or tradition.

    NNow, Admin: Great post. For those of you who want to really SHHOT OUT for hillary, go here: http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com.

    Also, NOW is creating a media hall of shame http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall_of_shame/

    go vote and help them out with “candidates”

    However, I am a bit pissed at NOW…they were hardly OUT AND LOUD about the crap that was pulled by these “anchors” and “pundits”

  14. HA!!!!

    Great post in the comments section about the “Seal” in the NYT story:


    Great. Next they’ll unveil his special Obama Obama-in-Chief Uniform complete with gold epaulets and fake medals, ala Michael Jackson. Either that or he’ll start wearing a Star Trek uniform. Can you say “Giant Ego”?

    Slow news day? I don’t think so.

    CEO Obama just announced he supports the president’s wiretapping bill.

    — Posted by Ciccina

  15. great..BO supports the wire tapping bill. why not. he controls the media, Internet and democratic party..why not control all communications.

  16. Well,it is happening people.Empowerment,Retribution,Payback Time,Vengance,Get Even Time andIntimidation.Barack Hussein Obama,is making it all happen.Is he going to be as dangerous as Iran?.Here in Pgh.,the city is emposing a curfew on all young people in certain parts of the city in order to stop the assaults and murders that are getting out of control and mounting every day and night. Police state is just one of the changes that BO has caused with his golden telepromter tongue,his money,lust for power,inexperience and illusions of grandure.His seal is in place and our nation is now in a state of fear and great danger from within. STOP HIM NOW!!!.

    BY ABM 90

  17. BUSH: You’re either for us, or you’re with the terrorists

    OBAMA: You’re either for us, or you are a racist

    no difference

    They are the same

  18. Thank god for women who refuse to just “get over it” !!


  19. Idunn:thanks for the link. I read it. If I understand what the facts here Obama meets with a group of women who were Clinton supporters. He asks them to support him. One very prominent member of that group U.S. Representative Sheila Jackson Lee who also happens to be African American suggests that he reach out to this these Clinton supporters and talk to them about this. Now that is a sound rational suggestion. And his response is this . . . . .

    1. I AM TOO BUSY!

    2. GET OVER IT!!

    And they tell us this guy will be a great president, he will bring change and we should vote for him and tell others to do likewise. What better proof could there be of his condescending attitude toward women? Any woman of any age who doesn’t get doesnt get it doesnt get it!

  20. I knew Obama was trouble the minute I learned that he took his name off the Michigan ballot.
    It was a deliberate act intended to invalidate the results of the vote.
    There is no greater act of disrespect to democracy, or the people,
    than to deny a person’s right to vote and BE COUNTED.
    (I thought Rove was behind this, but I now think this is bigger than that).
    The co-opting of the MSM, is frightening. MSM is trying to atone for its
    complicity in bringing us the war. Atonement without acknowledgment.
    So now they coronate Bambi, prematurely and against the will of the people. Turn the page.

  21. You almost wish Obama was as inarticulate as bush because when w says something stupid it comes out so incoherent that nobody understands him whereas with bambi it is clear as a bell what he really thinks of women.

  22. And he thinks, McCain is a danger to women? With an attitude like that, all women should be concerned about Flip-Flop.

  23. Olberman reminds me of Howard Beale, and I look forward to his
    inevitable and predictable conclusion.
    In fact I see msnbc as that which has been portrayed in the movie
    ‘Network’. It would be comical if the stakes weren’t so high and the
    risks so grave.

  24. Does this remind you of anything?

    Like the story of the emperor has no clothes.

    He takes over the party without firming a shot.

    No one wants to be called a racist.

    So no none objects.

    He prepares to take over the county.

    Talks about his white house.

    He designs his own seal.

    Big media watch dog is big media lap dog.

    No one objects.

    No one wants to be called a racist.

    So where is that little boy. . . .

    Who is willing to stand up and say

    But mom dad the emperor has no clothes?

  25. It is not my intent to inhibit conversation.
    I just want it known that I too, refuse to support bambi.

    Anyone that steals my vote, cannot expect to get my vote.
    If he can do this -vote stealin’- then he can do anything.

  26. Representative Sheila Jackson Lee who also happens to be African American suggests that he reach out to this these Clinton supporters and talk to them about this. Now that is a sound rational suggestion. And his response is this . . . . .

    1. I AM TOO BUSY!

    2. GET OVER IT!!

    Wbboie, that’s pretty much the gist of it, yeah. 🙁

  27. here’s an interesting link, but I will also copy and paste to save time.

    Sparks Fly at Black Caucus Meeting
    Just What Was Said Between the Presumptive Democratic Nominee and Clinton-Supporting Congresswoman?

    June 20, 2008
    180 comments FONT SIZE
    RSS A Thursday afternoon meeting between Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus grew tense and emotional for a moment — perhaps illustrating that weeks after Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., suspended her presidential campaign, some nerves remain frayed.

    Most of the meeting was cordial, and after a presentation by Obama’s pollster, many members of the CBC had nothing but pleasant exchanges with the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

    But not everyone.

    Sources at the meeting said that Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, a Clinton supporter, expressed the desire that Obama and his campaign would reach out the millions of women still aggrieved about what happened in the campaign and still disappointed that Clinton lost.

    Obama agreed that a lot of work needs to be done to heal the Democratic Party, and that he hoped the Clinton supporters in the room would help as much as possible.

    According to Rep. Yvette Clarke, D-N.Y., Obama then said, “However, I need to make a decision in the next few months as to how I manage that since I’m running against John McCain, which takes a lot of time. If women take a moment to realize that on every issue important to women, John McCain is not in their corner, that would help them get over it.”

    Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., a longtime Clinton supporter, did not like those last three words — “Get over it.” She found them dismissive, off-putting.

    “Don’t use that terminology,” Watson told Obama.

    Clarke did not react the same way.

    “I, personally, as a Hillary supporter, did not take that as something distasteful,” Clarke said. “Nothing like that.”

    But, Clarke said, Watson “latched on to those three words.”

    In Clarke’s view, Watson thought Obama had just told her to “get over it.” She didn’t appreciate that, and she told him so and emphasized that it was a heated campaign and lot of healing remains to be done.

    “I agree,” Obama said. “There’s healing on both sides.”

    Obama then said two sources at the meeting said that he’d held his tongue many times during the campaign against Clinton in the interest of party unity and sensitivity. Clinton and her allies had suggested he was a Muslim, had said he wasn’t qualified to be president.
    According to the sources, Obama suggested he bit his tongue every time. He could be asking for an apology, he could be asking for the Clintons to reconcile with him, but he chose to rise above it.

    Everyone involved agreed that most of the meeting was cordial, and that there is unanimity on the need to work hard to elect Obama.

    But clearly tensions remain.

    Clinton and Obama are scheduled to put on a good public show for the cameras next week, regardless of any beneath-the-surface Sturm and Drang. The former competitors will campaign together and appear at a fundraiser in Washington at the end of next week

  28. Idunn, he also accuses Hillary again fo the muslim thing. Where do this guy get off?

    Accusations without hard proof are one more sign of the totalitarian mindset. He cannot make up his mind whether he wants to use our girl as a scapegoat or an ally. Right now he is trying to have it both ways depending upon the audience he is talking too. She has got to take a hard look at what she wants to do about this. As for mo I would sure like to have another update on how the billie burke makeover is progressing. I trust she is comfortable now with the wand and tiara.

  29. This guy is dangerous and he DOES NOT LOVE THIS COUNTRY. It’s all about King Obama and the John Kerry of this world think they can control him because of their own racism.

    This guy think he will be the NEXT President of the United States so he is showing his TRUE COLORS and he is a LITTLE DICTATOR with remaking this country into HIS own IMAGE and you better get in LOCK STEP with him or you are out.

    Hillary Clinton is a THREAT she is going to be DEMONIZED to minimize her power in the world…and any other WOMEN WILL BE TREATED THE SAME WAY HILLIARY IS.

    That’s why I AM so DISAPPOINTED in NOW and other Women Rights Organisations who DID NOT FIGHT FOR IT’S PRINCIPLES..WEAK, WEAK, WEAK Leadership. We have supported PLAYMATES and NOT PROTECTORS of our RIGHTS for ALL WOMEN.

    We Don’t have TIME…so you need to get on the pot and vote for John McCain, since the DEMOCRATS have abandon WOMEN RIGHTS for this Sexist Anti-American FRAUD!

    I have to LOOK AT PEOPLES ACTIONS and not words and it is the DEMOCRATIC? TALIBAN PARTY that THREW US UNDER THE BUS for OBAMA. With LIBERAL MSM compounding the co-opting our GOVERNMENT. Wire-Tapping…why is the media so silent, well this time the media will NOT be able to excuse their culpability.

  30. Tapper is a poor excuse for a journalist. No research, no depth of analysis, willing to pass on gossip, trades in unidentified source, in the bag for obama, he is symptomatic of everything that is wrong with American media today. Here is how the guy operates:
    Tapper:Clinton and her allies had suggested he was a Muslim, had said he wasn’t qualified to be president
    And here is how Media Matters describes her position on the matter:
    Media Matters: Chris Matthews, asserting that Sen. Barack Obama “might want to make sure” the public knows he is a Christian, added: “Of course, Hillary Clinton’s not helping by saying he’s not a Muslim, ‘as far as I know.’ ” In fact, Clinton’s first three words in response to a question about Obama’s religion on CBS’ 60 Minutes were, “Of course not,” and she likened the rumors about Obama’s religion to false rumors about her.

  31. Once again I would like all of you to join us here and pass this link on far and wide….


    If you are interested in starting a meet-up group, organizing for Denver, ACTIVELY working for Women’s Rights or being a State Organizer, please contact the Organizers. We need HUGE NUMBERS

  32. carbynew: excellent analysis. More people need to wake up. Now that he has taken over families parties and the propananda ministry that used to be called American Media the last line of defense to the great enchanter is the ballot box. McCain is in some ways a quixotic figure but like senor alfonse quijana he has high ideal and charater and even if he charges a windmill or two along the way there is no doubt in my mind that he loves our county and its people. The opposite is true of bambi–its all about him.

  33. Obama is really out of control. In reading the comments in various news articles about his “seal”, even some of his supporters are aghast. Those who are NOT his supporters (and there are MANY) are both insulted and disgusted at his self-aggrandizing hubris.

    Those who are his minions are all atwitter that “his campaign, or some over-excited graphic artist” did that….(not even recognizing the Obama himself would HAVE to approve such a use in front of Governors)

    Others, sadly, describe this as the new America, that we will ALL be behind Obama..or else.

    Then others still, whine and cry that he is being “attacked” by the Big Bad Media..and say the coverage is unfair…
    I will be passing out hankies at 1PM

  34. I hope the women of this country do as Paulie is doing and give him a fair hearing. He is a man of character and he comes from another generation like me. If I myself am educable on these things then surely he is. Bambi on the other hand is not and never will be. Narcissists care only about themselves but as with him they mask it to get ahead. Look at how he has treated Wright like a rag doll embracing him, defending him and finally thowing him in the gutter. This is not an apology for Wright but an observation about the character of barack obama who used to be known as barry dawson.

  35. Thank you Norma.

    I have never seen a more gross distortion of ‘fair reflection’
    as I had witnessed on that Saturday with the RBC meeting.

    I am extremely disappointed in our representatives, and in particular
    Carl Levin. I thought he was a stand-up guy.

    I doubt that ever in history were elected delegates awarded to a
    candidate whom voluntarily and purposely removed his name from the ballot, based on extrapolation from opinion polls, and a few from the front runner just for good measure.
    Certainly not in my lifetime that I am aware of.

    If the situation were reversed, Clinton would have been condemned by all of msm.

  36. wbboei….barack obama who used to be known as barry dawson.???????????

    I have never seen that “barry dawson” before anywhere…..is this a typo??

  37. I dont know if the name richard feynam means anything to you but he is one of my heroes on more than one level. You may recall that he was the one who discovered O ring cause for the shuttle disaster but there was far more to him than that. His powers of concentration were such that a two days before he died they asked him if there was anything they could do for him and he asked them to bring him a math problem which he proceeded to solve and he died happy. But long before that he was a leading figure in physics-or quantum mechanics. He won the Nobel Prize in 1964 and refused to attend the ceremony and when they asked him why he would render such an offense to the institution he said something to the effect that I am not part of any institution, do not aspire to be and have no intention of being condtrolled by their opinions. Would that it were the same in the world of politial parties if yu get my drift. To be the smartest most capable individual in an organization that is going mad that you are trying to save so you can ultimately save the country is the grandddaddy of all thankless jobs, but she has the courage to do it, but must not get caught in the switches.

  38. Debbie…thanks for sharing our site

    We REALLY NEED to get this out there. If you can help, PLEASE DO.

  39. Norma,
    no I am sorry to mislead.

    I watched on television.

    What I saw was a farce, but it was a televised farce.
    It was in the bag before the start.

    Harold Ickes is my hero, aside from Hillary.

  40. MIDem, I was there and got to sit in on the “Decisions” after the lunch break. It was a farce and I agree with you about Ickes. But then, what do you expect? His father, also Herold Ickes, worked with FDR for 13 years as Interior Secretary. They know REAL democracy.

  41. MIDem…if you can get involved with the Michigan action (the link i posted) that would be great. I have been involved in the Florida group of the same name for MONTHS.

  42. From Wikipedia on the senior Harold Ickes….

    “Ickes was a strong supporter of both civil rights and civil liberties. He had been the president of the Chicago NAACP, and supported African American contralto Marian Anderson when the Daughters of the American Revolution prohibited her from performing in their DAR Constitution Hall. He also was an outspoken critic of the Japanese American internment during World War II.”

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…

    So HOW DARE the DNC, the RBC and Obama’s camp

  43. The vote is the most cherished right that I have.
    It is to be protected at all costs.
    It is the reason we go to war, and the reason many have died.
    In my opinion, the ‘Democratic Party’ died that Saturday.

    Obama is the most anti-Democratic politician ever to be taken seriously.
    I still doubt that he IS a Democrat. Not in any substantive way.
    It is a means to an end.
    He will throw the whole party under the bus before he is through.
    Just like he did with Michigan and Florida on day one.

  44. Admin. Great Article and very on target. I would also like to say that the so called liberal side of the media has NO women commentators that actually speak for women. Who do we have Mika, Gloria B., Rachel and a few others, they all spew what the bosses(male) want them to say. I have to look at conservative media like Fox, they do have women and they don’t seem to be as preprogrammed as NBC’s do.
    We need a female Obreman, we need her to be as good as Obreman used to be before he started his stent of forcing Bambi down our throats! I am sure he was paid a handsome sum of money to do just that!
    We must have women in the media that actually speak for women and not for Big Media. We have them here on the blogs, but on TV.
    I do hope Hillary will make one of those great speeches as she did in China. Women, I believe have taken notice just how far down the ladder we have slid since the 60’s, when we were very much fighting for our equality. I feel we must bring big media to their knees for the treatment of Hillary. If we do not we can kiss that glass ceiling goodbye!

  45. MIDem…i believe you are right about him throwing the Democratic Party under the bus. This new “seal” the move to Chicago (which MUST have been planned and approved BEFORE HE “won” SQUAT is all part of it…

    My prediction here a week ago…that Howard will be tossed aside after they have done with him and Donna Brazille will be the new DNC Chairman…

    I have $5.00 on it

  46. Norma, I will do what I can.

    I am not computer savvy, so I will need to invoke the help of my daughters. But there is no greater cause than to fight for the right
    to preserve the integrity of the vote, the voice of the people.

    I am also no fan of sexism, or constant propaganda, or threats of violence
    or of fascism, Marxism, or Obamaism.

    These days remind me more of pre-war Germany.

  47. No doubts Bird, but I wonder if Dean knows….

    I am reading this great biography about FDR….by Jean Edward Smith…and although FDR had his moments, to be sure….he certainly did change the Democratic Party, who before had been not supportive of women’s rights and FILLED with racism….

    seems like we are going backwards

    The Party of Lincoln is looking a bit more tolerant these days

  48. MIDem, no need to be computer literate…they need footsoldiers…contact Amhir Rashid or Xavier through the website contacts list

    it is MOST important work…see what you can do…even if for only an hour or two a week.

    Go to http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org and read the newslinks page…you will see what WE did here

  49. Your statement of Pre-war Germany is not overblown at all. The thing these folks have not looked at historically is the similar track that they are being lead down. And the response from this campaign and their paid bloggers is eerily familiar to any student of how totalitarian states begin

  50. Very true Norma.

    The reworking of the Presidential Seal and the ‘Obama for Kids’ page
    is also an example.

    I think it is extremely alarming, and I have been a proud Democrat
    all my life.

  51. Let me tell you where you must focus your efforts if you plan to defeat BHO

    These 17 states will determine the next president. New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, Pennsyvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Maine, Colorado, Michigan, West Virginia, Oregon, Missouri, Hawaii, Washington.

    Each state will be targeted with primary focus on Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

    Sorry the rest of you don’t count. 23 states will not get any attention (except to get your money) by the candidates at all because they are already decided, the other 10 will get minimal attention along with DC.

    This is where we will see the bulk of the campaigning. If you live in anyone of those states and want BHO to be defeated, it is important that you organize now to do so. It is also important that any of us in the remaining states send whatever support to them that is necessary (volunteer, financial etc.)

    Something as small as 537 votes in anyone of these states could determine the outcome of the next election just like it did in 2000.

    I say we take back our country one step at a time…first step…defeat BHO!!!

  52. Norma Desmond Says:
    June 21st, 2008 at 9:20 am

    and the double entendre in Possumus….

    “playing Possum” is all that comes to mind with me

    Pretending that you one thing, when in fact, you are another and “fooling” (or day I say…Bamboozling?”) your viewer…..

    I’m reading from the latest comments backward, but ‘playing possum’ means what I hope Hillary is doing: ‘playing dead’ so your enemy leaves you alone.

    Obama is more like a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing.’ He pretends to be a liberal but at the important times he really sides with the big money interests.

  53. great discussion here today, wish i could chat with you all right now, but i am forced to continue with packing 🙁

    off topic for a second here
    as i am packing in the kids computer room
    which is the computer i am on now, i am blown away a bit by how different this website looks on a smaller screen LOL (i am usually on a 17 inch laptop)

    I remember all those long posts i have made here and now realize that was not so great for small monitors as they look very very very long and narrow on this monitor using explorer and windows 2000 i am also able to scroll down as i type (meaning i can see everything i am typing) now why can’t i do that in mozilla firefox with windows xp?

    i almost want to use this computer from now on LOL (not)

    well i hope to join the discussion here today from time to time , but most definately will read every word of it before bed tonight! keep up the fight!

    Admin……. by the way; great great article today!

  54. debbie you are so right , we need to be very organized on the ground, online is one thing, and is many preaching to the chior…. we need to be preaching to those who are not online and those who do not watch much of cable news too

    i can do nothing in that regard until after i get moved and settled…. hope you all understand , but moving a farm is a tedious task (one i am not happy about)

    but once settled i will be living in south dakota near sioux falls SD and sioux city iowa so i will make my time useful in those areas for this cause… if anyone starts up a group near those areas please post it here for me!


  55. Those of you that know me know I would do anything to have Hillary be our next president, but I am I guess too much of a realist. Although there are a large # of us that will protest Denver, and will never give our vote to BHO, he is to my dismay the selected nominee. That will not change. I could pray, give blood, eat guavas, and on and on to have something really upset his nomination but the truth is it will not likely happen. I’m watching too many organiztions at this point accept the inevitable. I understand why he will get their eventual support.

    I will not divert my attention from my efforts to defeat BHO, nor will I support the DNC, DCCC, or the DSCC. I will withhold my support of any candidate that spoke ill of Hillary Clinton or remained silent in the face of the defamation of her character. I will withhold my support from those womens organizations that failed to stand up during the primaries to speak out against the misogyny and sexism. I will withhold my purchase of any product that advertises on any media source that produces sexist and misogynistic content.
    I will vote in favor of the National Popular Vote, fair redistricting, accountable and ethical government, and media reform.
    I will be heard.

  56. I think it is so pathetic the candidate of change continuously changes his position on the issues. This is not the kind of hope I want. I am tired of the empty speeches; empty because they have no substance. If Obama offers a policy issue on the campaign trail, chances are it was already tried. Nothing is new from the candidate except for his success with two words. Two meaningless words.

    I am sure everyone would like to know Obama has raised $161,927 from lobbyists: http://www.obama-wire.com/obama_lobbyist.htm

    I am sure everyone would to know Obama has a history on the campaign trail of never taking responsibility for the actions of his campaign; instead, he passes the buck off on his campaign: http://www.obama-wire.com/Apologies.htm

    And now Obama has the audacity to suggest McCain will come after him on racial ground: http://www.obama-wire.com/racecard.htm

    This guy is the biggest joke since 7 minute abs.


  57. As for Denver, let’s start with an extreme case. Suppose Obama is IN JAIL by then? In that case, the SD’s and even the Pelosi faction would have no problem choosing Hillary at the last minute.

    I agree it would take some big outside event to make this happen. Or a combination of several such events.

    If something happens, then the efforts we’re making on pledging not to support Obama in November may become part of the equation. Maybe if the polls keep tanking for Obama, and we can demonstrate support for McCain (or twice as many people planning to stay home), we might BECOME the outside factor….

  58. Obama then said two sources at the meeting said that he’d held his tongue many times during the campaign against Clinton in the interest of party unity and sensitivity. Clinton and her allies had suggested he was a Muslim, had said he wasn’t qualified to be president.
    According to the sources, Obama suggested he bit his tongue every time. He could be asking for an apology, he could be asking for the Clintons to reconcile with him, but he chose to rise above it.

    Good grief!

    First he says something untactful (“get over it”). Then instead of apologizing, or offering some real incentive, or even waffling — he hits again with old false charges against Hillary!

    (Well, it’s true that he’s not qualified to be President, but Hillary was probablly too nice to say so.)

  59. Posted at 2:04pm on Jun. 20, 2008
    Not Gonna Happen
    By Erick

    The Obama campaign surprised a lot of people in the past week by suggesting that Georgia was in play. In fact, the Obama campaign has begun running advertisements in Georgia this week — launching Obama’s opening ad campaign.

    This has more to do with Obama trying to shape the press message than it does Obama actually trying to win in Georgia. Witness this Time article. After weeks of stories about Obama not being able to win in places like Pennsylvania, Indiana, Michigan, Florida, and Ohio, the Obama campaign is working overtime to convince the media that it can win in places it absolutely cannot. Georgia is one of those places.

    “By some estimates we have about 600,000 African Americans in Georgia are eligible but unregistered. I think that number is a little high, but we will be working very hard to register as many voters as we can before the election,” said Jane Kidd, chairwoman of the Georgia Democratic Party. “Georgia is one of the most progressive southern states. There are a lot of people moving in, there’s a lot of transition, a lot of progressives.”

    This is, of course the strategy. Obama will win with the votes of black voters. And arguably his data makes the case. In 2004, only 626,838 voters turned out for the Democratic Primary. This year, however, 1,028,495 voters turned out for the Democratic Primary.

    That sounds impressive until you realize 947,423 voters turned out in the Republican Primary this year, smaller to be sure, but then everyone knew Huckabee would win Georgia by the time the race got here and Obama could capitalize on the African-American turnout.

    Regardless of the impressive primary turnout, let’s put some concrete perspective on this.

  60. dija: I read the other day that Barry Dawson was his original name. Today he is known as Bwak Obama. Tomorrow people will realize that he is The Boneless Wonder especially when it comes to saying no to corporations like Excelon. He reminds me of a story Winston Churchill told in Parliament years ago:

    I remember when I was a child, being taken to the celebrated Barnum’s Circus, which contained an exhibition of freaks and monstrosities, but the exhibit on the program which I most desired to see was the one described as “The Boneless Wonder”. My parents judged that the spectacle would be too demoralizing and revolting for my youthful eye and I have waited fifty years, to see The Boneless Wonder sitting . . . . (in that Chicago mansion financed with money supplied by Uncle Tony Rezko),

  61. That Georgia’s Democratic Party must register 600K AA voters to halp Oh!bama win, place or show is telling in itself.

    Talk about racial stereotyping!

  62. ADMIN

    I think it’s time for big pink to write on this as well …..we need to get this exposed!
    and questions answered!


    one comment that particularly think speaks for me is this one posted at noquarter’s diary

    Comment by Sick of the Obama Circus | 2008-06-21 16:06:43

    Please stay on this story until you run it to ground. It is now time to get definitive answers about a series of issues Obama has dodged. No more leeway for this poser. After the birth certificate, we need to go after the “missing” records from his time in the Illinois legislature. No more bullshit, no more equivocations. No more half assed
    “answers” from his totally dishonest hand maidens.
    Don’t accept any answers from anyone other than the primary paper sources. No half assed “copies”. Only certified “legal-in-a-court-of-law” evidence.
    If anything is missing, then affidavits galore from those who have let things go “missing.” If it was good enough for Dick Nixon, it’s good enough for Dick Obama.

  63. Debbie: if that is what happens then I see no practical differrence between the Democratic Convention and the former Supreme Soviet body of the old USSR. In that case the true legacy of this primary will be: sexism wins and the voice of the people does not count in the Democratic Party. In that case nothing they promise to do can be counted upon. What does a sane and rational person do in that case? Hedge their bet and vote for mccain. The beauty of our system is the separation of powers. But if a party like this gets controll of congress and the white house the American People havent got a chance.
    I have not switched over to McCain yet. I still hold out some hope. But if they nominate this guy then 1 nano second later my time effort and money will go to McCain, as a patriotic duty.

  64. wbbeoi

    I had heard barry but with a last name that started with an “S” can’t remember it now

    but have never read anything stating it was “dawson”

    do you have a link?

  65. another posted comment at noquarter in regards to BO Birth certificate that brings up a really GREAT QUESTION!

    Comment by Ann | 2008-06-21 15:28:03

    Way back when I wrote at TM that I thought BO was born in Kenya. My comment was picked up by an obot and posted at the tmexperience page. But, the fact remains the McCaskill and BO tried to get some legislation passed about american citizens born abroad being eligible to be POTUS. At the time they pretended they were doing it to benefit John McCain since he was born in Panama…and, if you believe that McCaskill and BO would do anything to legitimize an opponents right to have his or her name remain on a ballot — ha, ha, ha.

    Sorry, that’s just too funny.

  66. dija: I definitely do not have a link. But the answer would be easy to find in one of his two books. I know what i got that from was a secondary source, so i would rely on the book. Even if what he says in it is a lie, at least he is bound by it. Sorry to be difficult on this one and I want to be accurate but I have been though so much material in the past four days when i found it that it woul be hard to reconstruct. But I am sure it would be in his autiobiiographies/

  67. another blog site asking great questions on this issue of BO Birth certificate


  68. wbboei…my position exactly. It takes no effort to vote for McCain. t come out now as Hillary supporters and declare allegiance to McCain I believe hurts Hillary’s cause…we can simply wait til after the convention. I think the BETTER ROUTE is to ALL STAY ON BOARD the PRO HILLARY SITES and actions and then, if we must sink this ship of Obama’s, do so quietly in the booth come november and work behind the scenes for him after August and the coronation.

    The more we stay out front, in SUPPORT of Hillary, the more power WE HAVE as a Coalition and the more power SHE has as a leader moving forward. Her BASE remains in tact

  69. dija, wbboei,

    At ironmyvote.com I have links for info on BO’s early life from Chicago Tribune profiles and similar sources.
    SCroll down on the first page.

    I think the name is Soteros or something like that.

  70. norma

    I agree, but it i don’t think it hurts to let them know that we are willing to go with McCain should Hillary not get the nomination.

    and that is precisely what i have been doing, I will remain a democrat until after the GE i want to vote as a dem for McCain
    should hillary not be on the ballot….then i am switching to Independant


    thanks! that’s sounds like it

  71. i just found this posted comment on


    another good question needs an answer!
    Barack Hussein Obama II, was also once known as Barry Soetoro who was a.) MUSLIM and b. ) INDONESIAN Had Stanley Ann Dunham’s second husband adopted Barry Hussein? If he had…Barry lost his citizenship.

    Posted by: Colin | Jun 15, 2008 11:49:33 PM

  72. Thanks. Barry Sotero. Duly noted. Wonder how many more aliases he has. Still think Boneless Wonder is the most descriptive/

  73. norma-d and djia

    you are right. “ya gotta dance with the one that brung ya”. i will support HRC all the way through denver and beyond.

    but a word to all lurkers out there, should BO succeed in his coronation, all bets are off. i will vote for John McCain

  74. It is equally imporant for the Clinton supporters who have sighed up with John be clear that if Hillary is the nominee then they will come back to the party to support her support her. I will assume that is true unless someone tells me differrent, but it would be good to get it in writing. That 20%. In my book barack is a tool, john is a man of charater and hillary is the greatest leader of our time. Pretty easy choice if you ask me.

  75. John should tell Barry: “Hey bwak! Luvd yer belly flop on public finacing. What dont you just wear a for sale sign on your back and walk up and down Pennsylvania Avenue.

  76. You realize of course that if there are enough people who hang in there through the convention to support Hillary and then jump ship if bwak is the nominee then this will be the first time in recorded history that the nominee got a negative bounce coming out of the convention.

  77. I love Hillary and do support her BUT the DEMOCRATIC Party is another thing. Their cynical abandonment of Women Rights and Equal Rights was a CALCULATED decision to THROW US OFF THE BUS because of MYSOGINY AND SEXISM beliefs.

    And the PLAYMATES sent to CONGRESS revealed their true face…it is very telling how silent those in LEADERSHIP were, except for a few instances…the voices were not there and even now are tiny in the response.

    The DEMOCRATS have NO credibility in this since their ACTIONS spoke louder then words.



    This guy CAN’T be TRUSTED, He lies, lies, lies.

  79. The democratic party is dead to me. I don’t know, what they stand for anymore. Obviously, they don’t want us, and think that we will come crawling back, but actions do speak louder than words. Strange, but McCain has done more outreach to us, than our own party. Of course, he wants our votes, but he is treating us with respect and not taking us for granted. Hmm…I wonder, who will get my vote?

  80. The former first lady, who bowed out of the Democratic contest on June 7, reported $22.5 million in campaign debt at the end of May, more than half of which was a personal loan to her presidential campaign.

    The Obama camp has not yet devised a plan to help Clinton pay off that debt, but her backers are eager for some aid, saying such a gesture could help Obama, in turn, win over her still-frustrated supporters.

    “It’s far more productive for Obama to have Hillary 100 percent focused and engaged on campaigning and raising money for him in the fall rather than having to do fundraisers at the same time to retire her debt,” said Hassan Nemazee, a Clinton national finance chairman.

    “It would clearly make life easier for those of us in the Clinton world who would like to help Senator Obama raise the types of monies that are necessary from the Clinton world to be in a position to point out, ‘Look what Senator Obama has done for Senator Clinton.”‘
    Just like I thought, Obama is NOT going to help Hillary Clinton so all you FUNDRAISERS need to CANCEL any meeting with him UNTIL you see him do something in good faith.

    This guy is insulting and will weasel out of any pledge or commitment…it’s all about kissing his ring. Once Obama gets Hillary Fundraisers he will not need her except for GOTV. Don’t fall for it…this guy is sexist and it’s all about HIM not US, the PEOPLE.

  81. Check this AOL straw poll and go vote!

    McCain is viewed as more honest than BO 57% to 37%. Johnny’s also winning the entire country.


  82. birdgal

    mc cain has treated us with courtesy and respect. something BO and his worshippers know nothing of.

    you are correct. the democratic party is dead. mc cain will get my vote.

  83. good evening all,
    what do you think about obams new presidental seal? how insulting
    is that? he is putting it right in our face! hey anyone out there from
    pittsbugh pa? here is a thought lets have a fundraiser for
    hillary, anyone have connections with a popular band? maybe we
    could gt them to play and if we could find out a down dem who is running for re election in november, we could get hillary to come
    and campaign for the candidate.she did say she would do that
    cause they suppotred here. what do you think?

  84. good idea, ru99
    wish i had some connections to the big leagues.

    shania, carole, gloria, celine…you out there??? how ’bout you, barbra?

  85. Carbynew:

    This guy is insulting and will weasel out of any pledge or commitment…it’s all about kissing his ring. Once Obama gets Hillary Fundraisers he will not need her except for GOTV. Don’t fall for it…this guy is sexist and it’s all about HIM not US, the PEOPLE.

    Hi Carbynew…not only that but did you see that story about his meeting with the black caucus…Obama is still miffed and believes Hillary owes him an apology for the things she said about him…

    Can you believe this guy? the arrogance, the meglomania…all about him…all the time…

  86. birdgal Says:

    June 21st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
    The democratic party is dead to me. I don’t know, what they stand for anymore.

    birdgal, the sad truth is the care about themselves and their own self interests…it has gotten to the point where is doesn’t even matter…they are almost interchangeable…the dems don’t have the guts to take a stand…

    Bill Clinton was the only dem to come around in the last years that was not afraid to fight back and stand for something…

    Hillary could have picked up that mantle, but I guess it interfers with Little Nancy Pelosi’s domain, etc…

    I have been a Dem activist my whole life and right now as far as I am concerned we need to have checks and balances on the whole lot of them…

    our worst nightmare is Obama as Prez with a complicit dem congress that gives his ego free reign with no checks and balances at all…we may as well just have one set of crooks hand it over to another set of crooks…

  87. Seems to me the best support we can give Hillary is to stay on her webstes AS Pumas. Have it in our sig, mention in the sig “Hillary or McCain!” or “Hillary or bust!” or whatever.

    That’s the strongest weapon we have now: our intention to vote against Obama in November.

    We can be registered at BOTH sites, Hillary’s and McCain’s. (And neutral sites too; iirc TM still allows both sides, even some ‘McDems’.)

  88. Beginning to believe Wright went back to the church for HIS portection. After all, murdered Donald Young had told Larry Sinclair (who was jailed immediately at the conclusion of his presentation at the National Press Club on 6/18/08) that BHO and Wright were trying to figure aout what to do about BHO and Young. How many cover-ups and “hit jobs” yet to come? Big Media and the corrupt Dems conspired to remove him from the scene. He’s history. Another one bites the dust. Dissent and you’re gone, just like in other corrupt totalitarian governments.


    The “redo” of the Presidential seal by the BHO camp is much more than an over-the-top insult to the integrity of the Presidency. Its no-so-subliminal message to the robotic youth – is the most blatant to date – that he IS indeed the Manchurain candidate AND the damn ANTICHRIST.

    Don’t you see that the Marxist forces began with baby steps in staking their claim – and the insidious poison haS now infiltrated all strata. NO birth certificate demanded by our INEPT ADMIN, and WHERE THE HELL is PATRICK FITZGERALD? BOUGHT OFF TOO?

    I predict violence ahead. But I don’t believe it will be the thugs within his ranks that have been so pervasive with their blackmail and extortions of innocent people who will be the ones to lead the major uprising. It will be the PEOPLE who storm the gates, just as in previous historical scenes throughout the world. While BHO says “Let them eat cake,” or maybe just “get over it,” the groundswell begins to take root in the largest outcry since the Civil War in the 1860’s. Disagree?

    The REVOLUTION to come will be the result of the complete shutting down of our democracy that is not just occurring as we blog, but has been GOING ON for several months now.



  89. i agree but how do we get the attention of the american people?
    and to the media to get with it? who do we write to to get the
    plan in motion?

  90. How in the world can a person running for the president of the united states run without showing his birth certificate?

    I bet the McCain people are on it McCain is not being quiet for nothing.

    The media maybe holding back until he is nominated and let all hell break loose

  91. You go after the media mogul head of MSNBC (General Electric) who is also in bed with and doing business with terrorists. Gives “sleeping with the enemy” a whole new meaning. Then you deal with down-and-dirty arm-twisting George Soros, who is also in collusion to snuff out and shut up all dissenters Like Sinclair). C O R R U P T!!

    You just need an administration with the balls (sorry to be so blunt – but damn it, it’s past time to just say it like it is) to go after the dweebS who CONTINUE to make a mockery out of our “open” and “free” enterprise – yeah, free to buy anybody and everybody off if you just have enough money dirty $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

  92. neetabug:

    ALL HELL BETTER BREAK LOOSE. You or I couldn’t even start to grade school, for crying out loud without a valid, UNALTERED birth certificate. If not ORIGINAL, the chain-of-command had to be above reproach to declare its authenticity.

    You can’t apply for Social Security, SSI or anything else to do with the Federal government in this country without presenting the same, as well as certified copies of marriage certificates, death certificates, etc.

    You can’t board a plane or ship for an international destination without a valid passport which required again, the SAME original or certified birth certificates to guarantee authenticity.

    But SOMEHOW, BHO, the ONLY person in the WORLD who can turn this into a RACIAL issue, can run for the frickin’ P R E S I D E N C Y of the U N I T E D S T A T E S of A M E R I C A without doing the S A M E thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this is a DEMOCRACY?!?!?!?!?! We have brave youg soldiers fighting and DYING RIGHT NOW to uphold this country’s FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY?!?!?!?!?!?! w h a t e v e r ……………………………………………

  93. Maybe if he is at a fund raising envent we could be outside holding signs saying show us your birth certificate

  94. neetabug:

    Some persons filing for Social Security (would all have to be independently wealthy)should file a class-action lawsuit refusing to provide their birth certificates in protest for publicity.

  95. hi admin,

    do you have links of those PINO blogs and big media’s meltdown over us PINK blog’s ‘bad manners’ towards big media party head Tim’s death? Gosh, I’d love to have some fun.

    They will have another meltdown soon when woman murderer Kennedy meets his mark.

  96. I think a lot of people are wondering that. Right now the Dems are doing a fairly good job of looking silly on their own, so why would you waste your ammunition. You might as well just sit around and watch them lunge at anything they think is a slight.

    You can just sit there and look Presidential, instead of defensive.

  97. GOP won’t hit Obama to tuff right now until after the convention, they don’t want hillary to be the nominee

  98. djia

    I think you are right about that also. If you start making too much noise, people will start ignoring you, which O runs the risk of.

  99. well they must know by now they can’t beat hillary………so it stands to reason to keep obama in until after the convention

  100. it’s just a really good thing he’s doing it to himself 😀

    I think hillary has something up her sleeve…… I find it very difficult to believe such a fighter would just suddenly stop!
    I think she is playing possum right now and in august just before the convention (1-2 weeks prior) I fore see ……. the heavenly sky’s will part, light will shine down and the angels will sing and then ZAP!! POW!! KABOOM!!! Obama will be TOAST!

    anyone want to put $$ on it??

  101. I’ll bet She has his REAL birth certificate and it show’s obama is NOT a US citizen …..

    i remember hearing pundits say the clinton campaign has been trying to get them to cover something big and they didn’t, do any of you remember this too?? i wish i could remember which pundit(s) it was…….so something big is still out there

    and she and bill will find a way to get it out

  102. HA!!!!

    My favorite post so far on the “Great Seal of Obamaland”

    It is so fascist in action but really OBAMA should go to jail for this seal
    US Code: Title 18,713:

    § 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

    (a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

  103. The funny, and the frightening…

    “At first I thought it was presumptuous, obnoxious, and egomaniacal (sic) of him to even think of sitting behind it. Now, I’ve settled on the fact that it’s just an inch away from being a Burger King crown.”

    “I don’t know why anyone is complaining — except of course the Republicans, who complain about everything.
    This logo is a smart and new riff on an old seal. It symbolizes the way that Obama will bring forth new prosperity and renew our tired nation, by remaking it in His own image.”

  104. I think hillary has something up her sleeve…… I find it very difficult to believe such a fighter would just suddenly stop!
    I think she is playing possum right now and in august just before the convention (1-2 weeks prior) I fore see ……. the heavenly sky’s will part, light will shine down and the angels will sing and then ZAP!! POW!! KABOOM!!! Obama will be TOAST!

    anyone want to put $$ on it??..I like KabOOM Toasted BHO.back to kenya
    im smiling..the skys will come down its to dark and gray with out her here…and the celestial choirs will be singing hillary to the oval office..with the right seal and right colors of OUR nation.
    just to smart of a woman and my inspiration her hard work keeps me going man she can work…
    her energy is out of this world..she will bite back and fight no doubt about it.
    that idiotic changing the President seal watch it become with a picture of him on it LIE LIE.

  105. djia Says:
    “I’ll bet She has his REAL birth certificate and it show’s obama is NOT a US citizen …..
    i remember hearing pundits say the clinton campaign has been trying to get them to cover something big and they didn’t, do any of you remember this too?? i wish i could remember which pundit(s) it was…….so something big is still out there”
    I agree that something’s going on behind the scenes. But I have absolutely no idea what it is. My guess is that Hill & Bill & the gang have several fishing poles in the water and sooner or later something’s gonna bite. Maybe they’ve already caught the big fish but they’re not letting anyone see it yet.

    Does anyone have any idea what Harold Ickes is up to these days?

  106. I wouldn’t count on too much of a bombshell coming FROM the Clinton camping trip. They are smarter than that. Remember, Obama had “racial talking points” printed on a memo for God’s sake and they still BLAMED the Clintons. But you can bet the Republicans are. Also, she has her legacy to preserve, and Bills and even Chelseas. We have seen the Obama Campaign be complete opportunists at her expense, and the blogs are all atwitter about this “great move” by Hillary to “Come support the nominee”. It makes me sick to read. The are the SAME people who relentlessly attacked her and you and me, and now they love her…as long as she is “working for” Obama. One poster actually said “She needs to behave”


    I imagine there are things being worked in the Credential’s Committee and FYI, our girl is being forced to walk the plank next week to support Obama…so don’t freak out. The NYT story also said she was taking the rest of the months off and will return to the Senate after July 4.


  107. Norma,
    I don’t think the bombshell will come FROM the Clintons, per se. I don’t expect Bill to show up in Denver at the eleventh hour, waving the Whitey tape around or anything like that. Rather, they will find some middlemen/women who’ll leak that stuff out for them.

  108. Norma,
    I don’t think the bombshell will come FROM the Clintons, per se. I don’t expect Bill to show up in Denver at the eleventh hour, waving the Whitey tape around or anything like that. Rather, they will find some middlemen/women who’ll leak that stuff out for them.

  109. Obama Asks NBC to Draw Up Olympics Ad Packages
    But Could Such a Media Buy Be Too Much, Too Soon?
    By Ira Teinowitz

    Published: June 19, 2008

    WASHINGTON (AdAge.com) — Those tuning in to NBC Sports’ Olympics coverage this year will see spots from General Motors, McDonald’s, Budweiser, Nike and — just maybe — Sen. Barack Obama.

    Though the Obama campaign is keeping mum about whether it will definitely run spots, it has asked NBC Universal about Olympics advertising including $500,000, $2 million and $4 million packages of ads. (NBC presented those along with a $10 million package.) It’s not only a sign that the Obama camp has faith it can continue its stellar fundraising achievements but a signal that a widening field of battleground states has the candidate contemplating national broadcast buys. An Olympics buy could also allow Mr. Obama to reach out to a large swath of women.

    Exploring options
    “Obviously our buyers, when contemplating the election, look at a variety of options,” said Jim Margolis, the GMMB partner who co-chairs the Obama advertising team. “You will probably see us looking at lots of things. There is a big difference between looking and buying.”

    There’s also a big difference between Team Obama and Team McCain. Sen. John McCain’s campaign has inquired about Olympics rates but hasn’t asked for specific packages. Besides, with the Republican candidate lagging far behind in fundraising, such buys would take a huge chunk out of his budget before the conventions.

    NBC will air 3,600 hours of Olympics coverage on NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, USA Network, Oxygen and Telemundo. All the packages presented to the Obama campaign include time on both NBC and cable. No presidential candidate has done any significant buying of network TV ad time since Bob Dole ran in 1996. The only political ads that have aired on any broadcast network in this campaign were two from Rudy Giuliani in consecutive weeks on “Fox News Sunday.”

    Instead, presidential candidates have targeted their ads to battleground states. When they have tried to reach a wider audience, they’ve gone with national cable. There has been speculation this year that with more states in play this time, the economics of media buying might call for a national overlay to state-by-state ads.

    Launching first ads today
    The Obama campaign, launching its first ads today since winning the nomination, went with the battleground-states approach. It chose to run its “The Country I Love” spot in 18 states, six more than the dozen battleground states four years ago. The 18 are Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Virginia.

    Olympics advertising could offer the candidate an opportunity to home in on women. Four years ago, viewership of the Olympics on prime time averaged a 15 rating among U.S. households. Among women 18 and over, the average rating was 11.2, while men 18 and older earned a 9.6, according to Nielsen Co. On some nights, the female audience was more than three ratings points higher than the male audience. (Ratings are percentages of all TV households, whether or not their sets are turned on. For example, a 1.0 rating is 1% of the total U.S. households with TVs.)

    But there are costs aside from the high ad prices. The Olympics come pretty early in the presidential process, ahead of both parties’ conventions. And the prices of national ads reflect their reach in states such as California, Illinois and New York — states that are presumably already in Obama’s column.

    Questioning the strategy
    Marc Ganis, president of Sportscorp, a sports-marketing consultant in Chicago, said candidates have talked before about buying the World Series or baseball playoffs — but those events happen shortly before the election.

    “The question is: Why buy such expensive ad time in August, three months before the election? The advantage is you get a big audience with a broad section of the country. The negative is it’s not niche advertising. You are paying for advertising in states where you might not have a chance to win or where you will win overwhelmingly.”

    Still, he said, the advertising would have some advantage, including the publicity and attention it would draw.

  110. djia Says:

    June 21st, 2008 at 11:39 pm
    GOP won’t hit Obama to tuff right now until after the convention, they don’t want hillary to be the nominee
    Well they shouldn’t worry, the DEMOCRATIC? “TALIBAN” PARTY is dumb behold belief.

    RED FLAGS all over the place and the Democratic Leadership is sinking in their own hubris. Obama has no respect for this country and it’s people…it’s all about HIM and POWER. He doesn’t respect this country because he hasn’t had to fight for this country…he has pretty much been selected on his mediocrity and charming facaded.

    On his campaing website is Obama plan takeover…remaking the Seal…wow egomaniac anyone?

  111. McCain Rises and Obama Dips in Fund-Raising for May
    The fund-raising gap between Senators John McCain and Barack Obama narrowed in May as they raised nearly the same amount of money and ended the month in similar cash positions.

    For Mr. McCain, of Arizona, it was one of his best fund-raising months, with $21.8 million coming in from individual donors and from three joint Republican fund-raising dinners. For Mr. Obama, of Illinois, it was one of his weaker months, drawing $21.9 million.

    After raising record amounts of money all year, Mr. Obama continued spending heavily as the primary campaign extended into early June, and he ended May with $33.3 million in cash for the primary race. Mr. McCain, who raised less all year, was virtually assured of the Republican nomination by February and so spent less, ending the month with $31.6 million in the bank.

    The monthly fund-raising totals, filed Friday, cover the last full month of the Democratic primary battle between Mr. Obama and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, who dropped out of the race on June 7. Since then, Mr. Obama announced that he would opt out of the public financing system for the general election, meaning he will rely on his fund-raising prowess more heavily than ever.

    Federal filings show that Mrs. Clinton increased her campaign debt in the last month of her primary effort, including by another $2.2 million that she lent her campaign. This brought to $12.2 million the total amount she loaned her campaign, which ended May $22.5 million in debt. In addition to the money that she owes herself, and does not necessarily have to repay, Mrs. Clinton owes $10.4 million to vendors. In May, Mrs. Clinton raised $12.6 million and spent $19 million.

    For Democrats, one of the biggest questions surrounding campaign financing is whether large contributors to Mr. Obama’s campaign will now help Mrs. Clinton pay off her outstanding debt to vendors and, should she choose, to herself. In turn, it is not clear whether — or how enthusiastically — Mrs. Clinton’s fund-raisers will start to write checks and raise money for Mr. Obama.

    Both camps have been circling each other warily. From the Obama perspective, hard feelings linger in some quarters over the rhetoric from the Clinton campaign, said one Obama fund-raiser, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak on behalf of the campaign.

    “Some people felt that she hung around and threw dirt at Obama and ran up a lot of debt and is now asking us for help in paying those bills,” the fund-raiser said.

    Moreover, of the millions Mrs. Clinton owes vendors, some $4.6 million is owed to Mark Penn, a controversial pollster, who is not popular in many Democratic circles, making debt-retirement an even harder sell.

    Efforts to heal the rift between the two camps have already begun. Last week, around 20 to 30 Clinton supporters met with Mr. Obama’s national finance committee in Chicago, each pledging to raise $250,000 for him. Mr. Obama is scheduled Thursday to meet with Mrs. Clinton and some of her top financial supporters at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington in a first, and very visible, step toward party re-unification. A big topic will be the fund-raising challenges facing both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton.

    Mrs. Clinton, meanwhile, ended her campaign with nearly $27 million on hand. But $23 million of it was raised for the general election and must now be returned to donors. Overall, Mrs. Clinton raised $238 million since entering the race.

    For Mr. Obama, the nearly $22 million he raised in May was the smallest monthly total in 2008. In February, he broke records by bringing in $55 million. Donations tapered off to $40 million in March and fell again to $31 million in April, as the primary battle dragged on.

    For Mr. McCain, the trend line has been just the opposite. His nearly $22 million tally in May surpassed the $18.5 million he raised in April and the $15.4 million he took in during March.

    But he was helped by his party, with the powerful Republican fund-raising machine holding three dinners to jointly benefit the party and his campaign, including some fund-raisers headed by President Bush. Those events contributed $4.3 million to Mr. McCain’s total.

    To date, Mr. Obama has raised a record $296 million, relying in part on small-dollar donations brought in through the Internet from large numbers of supporters. By comparison, Mr. McCain has raised $122 million since he began the race.

    On Monday, Mr. McCain will attend a fund-raiser in Fresno, Calif., following a town-hall-style meeting. On Sunday, Vice President Dick Cheney will be hosting a reception on behalf of Republicans in Casper, Wyo.


  112. Obama alienates the editors
    By: Kenneth P. Vogel
    June 21, 2008 10:29 AM EST

    For most voters, Barack Obama’s shift away from public financing is not as big a deal as the mounting death toll in Iraq, surging gas prices — or even what they’re going to make for dinner tonight.

    But Obama’s announcement Thursday that he would become the first candidate to opt out of the public financing program for the general election was a big deal for some of the nation’s most influential newspaper editorial boards, which have long been ardent champions of campaign finance reform and which had thought they’d found a kindred spirit on the issue.

    Friday morning, scathing editorials in many top broadsheets characterized Obama’s move as a self-interested flip-flop, dismissed his efforts to cast it as a principled stand and charged that Obama wasn’t living up to the reformer image around which he has crafted his political identity.

    The scolding could mark a turning point in what has been, on balance, fawning treatment of Obama, an Illinois Senator and the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, on editorial pages.

    While the influence of editorial boards has diminished as the media has fragmented, they still carry weight with opinion leaders and undecided voters.

    Obama’s Republican opponent, John McCain, will participate in the public financing system, which this year will provide $84 million in taxpayer funds to candidates who agree to limit their spending to that amount. Obama is expected to raise many times more than that.

    Many of the same top editorial boards that have criticized McCain’s unwavering support for a long military presence in Iraq have also lauded his efforts to pass stricter campaign finance, ethics and lobbying laws.

    “The fact that McCain has been willing over the years to take the lead on these issues, when it’s arguably not in his self-interest, is one measure of character that over the years we’ve respected,” said Fred Hiatt, editorial page editor of The Washington Post.

    In deciding which candidates to support, Hiatt told Politico that the Post’s editorial board looks at campaign finance reform issues as “a significant factor, but among many factors that we would consider.”

    The board viewed Obama’s backtrack on public financing “as an important issue and also as a test of whether he would put principles he said were important to him above political calculation. And he didn’t. That tells us something. It doesn’t tell us everything.”

    The Post didn’t endorse candidates in the presidential primaries, but by some counts Obama racked up as many as 120 daily newspaper endorsements, compared to around 40 for his main rival, New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. McCain racked up more than 30 such endorsements during the Republican primary.

    Obama’s leadership in passing a yet-to-be-implemented provision requiring disclosure of contributions bundled by lobbyists likely appealed to editorial boards enamored with clean governance issues.

    Several editorial boards had praised his earlier pledge to take public financing in the general election if his opponent agreed to do the same.

    Of the editorial boards that opined Friday about his breaking the pledge, most of those that endorsed him during the primary were aggressive in their criticism.

    The Philadelphia Inquirer’s editorial board called the decision “as disappointing as it is disingenuous,” while The Boston Globe’s board wrote that it “deals a body blow … to his own reputation as a reform candidate.” And The Baltimore Sun’s editorial board called it “a major disappointment for those struggling to restrain the pernicious influence of special interests in American politics.”

    The New York Times’ editorial board, which endorsed Clinton after allegedly leaning toward Obama, wrote that “Obama has come up short” of “his evocative vows to depart from self-interested politics.”

    Obama attempted a preemptive defense of his new position by arguing that his massive base of small online donors constitute a “parallel public financing,” and that he needed to exit the program to defend himself from the independent spending of 527 groups, long a bugaboo of campaign finance reformers. Many editorial boards, though, have been outright dismissive of this argument.

    The Washington Post opined that Obama’s “effort to cloak his broken promise in the smug mantle of selfless dedication to the public good is a little hard to take.”

    And USA Today, which also did not endorse any candidates, said Obama put “expediency over principle,” was “disingenuous about his reasons for opting out of public financing” and proved he’s not a “real reformer.”

    There was hardly the same level of indignation when McCain came under fire from Democrats for using the promise of receiving public financing in the primary election to secure a loan before deciding not to take the funds.

    The Post’s Friday editorial asserted that McCain “played games with taking federal matching funds for the primaries until it turned out he didn’t need them.”

    But Hiatt told Politico that he doesn’t count McCain’s move as “in quite the same category” as Obama’s broken pledge.

    “To be the first candidate to reject public financing in a general campaign, particularly after having argued that that wouldn’t be a good thing, is a fairly significant development,” he said.


  113. Mark Shields: Obama couldn’t pass a polygraphposted at 10:42 am on June 21, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

    Mark Shields didn’t mince words on PBS about Barack Obama’s decision to opt out of public financing. Appearing as the progressive balance with David Brooks on Judy Woodruff’s show, Shields ripped into Obama, calling him unprincipled and suggesting that his latest video message painted him as a “hostage” who couldn’t pass a polygraph:
    It was a flip-flop of epic proportions. It was one that he could not rationalize or justify. His video was unconvincing. He looked like someone who was being kept as a hostage somewhere he was so absolutely unconvincing in it. It could not have passed a polygraph test.
    I mean, coming up with this bogus argument the Republicans have so much more money — the Republicans don’t have so much more money. He’s raised three times as much as John McCain has.

    David Brooks tried his Messiah/Machiavelli theory, but admitted that Obama hit a new low:
    I do think it’s the low point of the Obama candidacy, and I think it for this reason. His entire career he has put political reform at the center of it. In the Illinois legislature, in the Senate, political reform has been the essence of who he has been. And so for him to betray this, to sell out this issue, what won’t he sell out?

    Brooks tried to play this as Obama making tough decisions that would prove his mettle as Commander in Chief, which makes no sense at all. A true leader would stick to his principles even when it didn’t personally benefit him, not leap from position to position for political expediency.

    Later, Brooks seemed to figure this out:
    But McCain wouldn’t have done this. When the chips are down and McCain faced the crucial issue of his career, which was backing the surge, he backed the surge thinking it would cost him the presidency. …
    On a core issue of character, I do not believe McCain will bend. He’ll bend on all this other stuff he doesn’t care about, but Obama did bend on a core issue of his conscience.

    Bend? This was a clean break from his oft-cited principles on public financing. He cited them while he broke with them. Even Mark Shields knows that the GOP hasn’t outraised him or funded 527s. He broke with his principles and lied about doing so, while sanctimoniously paying homage to the principles to which his opponent has remained faithful.
    When the mask has slipped badly enough for Mark Shields to not only see it but get visibly angry about it, trouble is around the corner.

    And Shields lowers the boom in his column today:
    Sounds good until you check the facts. McCain has raised a grand total of $650,000 from the lobbying industry (Obama pledges not to accept lobbyists’ or PAC money), according to the Center for Responsive Politics, and just 1 percent of his contributions are from PACs. Talk about a paper tiger.
    But everybody remembers the most famous 527 group of all, the 2004 “Swift boats” attack ads questioning John Kerry’s bravery in Vietnam. Here are the numbers: The 527 spending has heavily favored Democrats over Republicans in every election cycle since 2000. In 2004, Democratic-leaning 527 groups spent $316 million to Republican-leaning 527s’ $113 million. So far in 2008, the 527 spending has been $116 million to $69 million in favor of the Democrats.

    Obama complicated his current situation by publicly proposing in March 2007 an agreement between the two major party nominees to rely exclusively upon public financing for the general election. John McCain immediately agreed. Last November, Obama stated: “I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election,” and on Feb. 26, Obama told the late Tim Russert, who had asked him if he might “break your word” on his public financing pledge, “I will sit down with John McCain and make sure that we have a system that works for everybody.”
    Obama lied about the 527s. He smeared McCain by accusing him of having fueled his campaign on lobbyist donations. He reversed reality by calling Republicans “masters” of the 527 strategy that his allies George Soros and MoveOn dominated in 2004 and 2000. And Obama didn’t even have the courage to negotiate with his political opponent while telling voters that we shouldn’t fear negotiating with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    Vero Possumus, indeed.

  114. The Two Faces Of Obama
    Barack Obama makes most opportunists look like pot-smoking slackers. David Brooks writes in The New York Times of the two Baracks:

    Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.
    This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.

    …Back when he was in the Illinois State Senate, Dr. Barack could have taken positions on politically uncomfortable issues. But Fast Eddie Obama voted “present” nearly 130 times. From time to time, he threw his voting power under the truck.

    Dr. Barack said he could no more disown the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than disown his own grandmother. Then the political costs of Rev. Wright escalated and Fast Eddie Obama threw Wright under the truck.

    Dr. Barack could have changed the way presidential campaigning works. John McCain offered to have a series of extended town-hall meetings around the country. But favored candidates don’t go in for unscripted free-range conversations. Fast Eddie Obama threw the new-politics mantra under the truck.

    …All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama. He’s the most effectively political creature we’ve seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn’t smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics.


  115. Norma,

    I see you’re all worked up over BO’s new seal.

    Remember years back on TV’s The West Wing – the series with which Axelrod coordinated in the final years as the show introduced “a minority from nowhere” to the presidency, that their initial campaign slogan was ‘Bartlett for America’, created by the fictional campaign chief and ultimately the fictional Chief of Staff, Leo McGarry, for then-candidate Jed Bartlett.

    So this seal is just another step in a made-for-TV candidacy (which is easy to pull off when you’ve got Big Media in your hip pocket).

  116. Here’s a comment from No Quarters post on Obama’s Seal:

    “There are about three journalists under serious consideration for Tim Russert’s job at “Meet the Press.” Can you imagine if they were out talking about their credentials and had a phoney logo of the show? And speaking of Meet the Press, I am curious. Why aren’t they going to pick a replacement who is the least experienced? Why pick the “same old” journalistic thinking? Why not pick say, a blogger? Can you imagine? No. Not them. They are not going to skewer their programs, but they are trying to foist onto the American people an under prepared presidential candidate and then call us racist when we don’t vote for him. Speaking of racist. Why no prominent AA faces as anchors on the networks except as “fill in?”
    When I read this comment, I was ROTFLMAO on the truth of the words writtened.

  117. This article sucks, but that one line below stuck out for me.

    “most have agreed to come, but some, including Hollywood billionaire Haim Saban, have pointedly rejected the request.”


  118. HAHA MSNBC give MTP to Tom Brokaw through general election season, so can we expect Oberlmann to resign now. Matthews and Ober must be sooooooooooooo pissed off right now.

  119. MoveOn demands a filibuster

    Insisting on a campaign promise that Obama would filibuster any wiretapping bill that included retroactive immunity for the telecommunications companies that let the government listen in, Obama’s allies at MoveOn are asking supporters to “call Sen. Obama today and tell him you’re counting on him to keep his word.”

    Obama has said he’ll work in the Senate to strip that provision from the House bill, but stopped short of promising to filibuster the bill.

  120. WaPo op/ed piece: Obama can’t be trusted —

    Getting to Know Obama

    By David S. Broder
    Sunday, June 22, 2008; B07

    We are barely at the beginning of the long period in which most Americans will give their first serious scrutiny to the presidential candidates and decide whether Barack Obama or John McCain will get their vote.

    Americans have many questions about both men. In the Post-ABC News poll last week, only half of those interviewed said they felt they knew an adequate amount about the candidates’ stands on specific issues. Voters split evenly on who would be the stronger leader, and they showed great uncertainty about which, if either, would be a safe choice for the White House.

    Obama leads on domestic, economic and social issues, but McCain is a strong favorite on national security and terrorism. The former POW’s personal appeal looms as the strongest barrier to the Democratic victory indicated by the towering majorities that disapprove of President Bush (68 percent) and that fear the country is headed seriously on the wrong track (84 percent).

    Despite those fundamental weaknesses in the Republican position, McCain trails Obama in that same poll by only six points, hardly an impossible margin to overcome. What may be crucial in the end is whether people become comfortable with the prospect of Obama as their president.

    McCain benefits from a long-established reputation as a man who says what he believes. His shifts in position that have occurred in this campaign seem not to have damaged that aura. Obama is much newer to most voters, less familiar and more dependent on the impressions he is only now creating.

    That is why a pair of strategy decisions made in the past two weeks could prove troublesome for him. The first was Obama’s turning down McCain’s invitation to join him in a series of town hall meetings where they would appear together and answer questions from real voters — without a formal agenda, press panel or professional interviewers.

    Obama’s manager initially called the idea “appealing,” but nine days later, when David Plouffe got around to responding, he countered with something quite different from the 10 informal discussions McCain proposed holding before the late-summer nominating conventions. Plouffe said that in addition to the three traditional debates under official sponsorship later in the fall, there could be only two others — one on economics on July 4 and another on foreign policy in August.

    The McCain side said that few Americans would sacrifice their Independence Day holiday to watch a debate and reiterated its offer to meet Obama anywhere he wanted on any of the next 10 Thursdays.

    At a news briefing last week, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs characterized that as a “take it or leave it” stance by the Republicans and suggested that discussions were finished.

    At the same briefing, Gibbs and campaign counsel Bob Bauer defended Obama’s decision to become the first presidential candidate since the Watergate reforms to decline public financing of his general election campaign.

    Gibbs and Bauer in effect blamed McCain, saying repeatedly that he was “gaming the system” by pledging to accept public funds while saying he could not “referee” spending by outside independent groups if it occurred. In fact, McCain had been far more vocal in denouncing such groups on the GOP side than Obama was in criticizing their counterparts playing Democratic presidential politics — even though Obama has claimed the mantle of campaign finance reformer that McCain has long enjoyed.

    Obama supporters note that town halls are McCain’s favorite campaign settings, so it’s no surprise he prefers them to formal speeches, where Obama excels. They point out that public financing helps McCain, who has lagged all year in his private fundraising, while it would inhibit Obama, who has tapped into a rich vein of small contributors using the Internet.

    But it’s also the case that the multiple joint town meetings McCain proposed would be a real service to the public and that suspending the dollar chase for the duration of the campaign, as McCain but not Obama will do, would be a major step toward establishing the credibility of the election process.

    By refusing to join McCain in these initiatives in order to protect his own interests, Obama raises an important question: Has he built sufficient trust so that his motives will be accepted by the voters who are only now starting to figure out what makes him tick?

  121. Fake birth certificat on dailychaos?

    Was Obama’s “Certificate of Birth” manufactured?
    Posted by Polarik on Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00:00 AM

    The Daily Kos blog has posted a JPG that allegedly is Barack Obama’s “Certificate of Birth.” From a detailed analysis of the image and the text, it looks like it was created by a graphics program, and is not a true copy of an original, certified document.

    I’ve been working with computers, printers, and typewriters for over 20 years, and given a set of printed letters, I can discern what kind of device made them. Printer output is quite different from the text created by a graphics program, and even if a document looks “official,” it may not be.

    The “Certificate of Birth,” which I will call “COB,” is posted on the Kos website as a color JPG. The reason for making it a color JPG, IMHO, is to induce the viewer to believe that this is a genuine copy of an original document — something that a black & white, or even greyscale, reproduction would not convey as well.

    Basically, anyone could have produced this document on his or her own computer, and I’ll tell you why.

    As represented by the JPG, the “original” COB seems to be a sheet of paper measuring 8.09″ x 7.90″ with a green “Rattan” pattern embedded in, or printed on, the paper and a “Bamboo mat” pattern for its border:

    It goes into much more detail if you go to the web page…


  122. no endorsement here just a quick look at the controversial logo BHO displayed


  123. # meiyingsu Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 am

    MoveOn demands a filibuster

    Insisting on a campaign promise that Obama would filibuster any wiretapping bill that included retroactive immunity for the telecommunications companies that let the government listen in, Obama’s allies at MoveOn are asking supporters to “call Sen. Obama today and tell him you’re counting on him to keep his word.”

    My guess is that Obama’s going to count on MoveOn.org continuing to carry his water for him, that he can afford to break his promises with them, because, “what are they going to do, vote for McCain”.

    Actually, people who are passionate about causes might sit out. They might not just vote cheerlessly for some candidate who embodies a vague collection of causes.

    He’s finding new ways to alienate even those that should be part of any Democrat’s base. Even Muslim women wearing headscarves who support(ed?) him.

  124. Or, MoveOn folks are far left enough to say, “Heck with Obama, I’m votng for ____ (Nader, etc.)”.

  125. the comments over at NQ are too funny to pass up…..

    Definately replace the eagle with a turkey

    Replace the olive branch with marijuana

    Replace the arrows with a the koolaid jug

    replace the slogun with “come smokem the hopium”

    and around the edge put “Seal of the leg tingly Messiah of Obamaland”

    and in the middle of his logo which replaces the shield, put graphic of a bull taking a shit.

  126. many are commenting that this is BO’s “mission accomplished” and/or “dukakis in the tank” moment. i hope bill o’reilly does an entire hours worth of ridicule.

  127. mp Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Voting for Nader over BO is a perfectly good choice in my opinion!

    Heh. Maybe some of us PUMA/No Deal/vote strike types should throw that back at the bots when they call us names.

  128. rgb44hrc

    ‘Actually, people who are passionate about causes might sit out. They might not just vote cheerlessly for some candidate who embodies a vague collection of causes.”

    This is the very thing that most of us election reformists are concerned about. Not that anyone would choose an alternate candidate but NOT VOTE at all.

    Our election system is designed to disenfranchise voters that do not tow the line. This is why it its so important that we break up the 2 party monopoly on our government.

    One place you can start is to demand “fair ” redistricting in your state. Take the redistricting out of the hands of the legislators and put it into an independent citizen commision. Don’t let your legislators choose you..you’re supposed to choose your legislators.
    Second change the laws in your state that award electoral votes to candidates that do not get the majority of the national popular vote.
    Third, demand that FEC seats be filled prior to any national election. 4 of 6 seats are currently vacant. Tell the Democrats to confirm commisioners and stop stalling.

    Take back our country.

  129. Kostner, I am kinda glad the B&^%$#sd’s are mad at the way we treated the death of Pumkinhead. Now, if they had any brains the would indeed see how we are pist at them for the treatment of our Presidential candidate. I would love to remind them of this. I wonder if any are reading today. I would like to tell them what goes around comes around. “Get over it”!

  130. Where are the Spanish and other foreign language speakers? Someone at Bitterpoliticz had a great idea. When writing Dean, do it in a foreign language: that takes more staff time to deal with.

    What about composing us something that looks like it’s a legitimate request for info about donating or volunteering or something, till some translator reads it closely and sees the zingers?

  131. Norma says


    Norma lets set a date i would love to send her some flowers.

    I am for real. Lets not talk about this lets do it.

    When will she be back in the Senate?

    Give me the address

  132. This recent article in the New York Sun sure tells it how it is. (Prediction: the people in congress are not privy to the larger agenda he is pursuing. When it becomes known to the world they will look for a good place to hide.)

    It’s an amazing time to be alive in America. We’re in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.

    We won’t truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won’t arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.

    The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He’s not. He’s the next George McGovern. And it’s time people learned the facts.

    Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

    Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he’s not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let’s look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial ‘beauty.’

    Start with national security, since the president’s most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists – something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put o ur national security at risk.

    Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on ‘the rich.’ How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.

    Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, ‘All praise and glory to God!’ but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have ‘hijacked’ – hijacked – Christianity He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In I llinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban – ban – on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.

    The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don’t start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of ‘bringing America together’ means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.

    But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and – yes – they’re talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama’s radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.

    It’s time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let’s first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.

  133. A friend of mine who is a liberal democrat called me last night to complain to me about obamas position on fisa, and his conspicuous attempt to have it both ways filabuster to prevent passage but vote for it if it passes. I told him if he was calling me to defend obama he was coming to the wrong guy. But he would not take no for an answer. How can he claim to represent a new kind of politics and do this. I reminded him that consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

  134. Another friend of mine who is a black woman told me that many other black women she knows are livid who are livid over the michelle obama make over. She said that black women are the backbone of the community and this is demeaning to them. They hold it against Barack. I told her this is an obvious attempt to humanize her image in anticipation of the republican attacks and or the whitey tape, ergo it is merely an illusion. That answer did not seem to satisfy her however. She said it was a case of a weak male imposing his will on a strong woman. I had made light of it earlier, but suddenly I do not think it is funny anymore.

  135. Wbboei

    I can see where the AA women are coming from. What they are saying why a white woman. Why not some AA woman. This is a slap in the face. This too shall come back to bite him.

  136. Again about the flowers to Hillary. Lets set a date. Get someone from all (57 states ) (smiles )to send flowers. We will have to make up names for the other states.

    Send them to her at the same time.

    Lets start the list

    I am from Ohio

  137. Lets start the list like this

    neetabug Says:

    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    Again about the flowers to Hillary. Lets set a date. Get someone from all (57 states ) (smiles )to send flowers. We will have to make up names for the other states.

    Send them to her at the same time.

    Lets start the list like this so we will know what state we are representing

    I am from Ohio

    birdgal Says:

    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    I am from CA

  138. neetabug Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Lets start the list like this

    neetabug Says:

    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    Again about the flowers to Hillary. Lets set a date. Get someone from all (57 states ) (smiles )to send flowers. We will have to make up names for the other states.


    Since they’re Obama’s states,….

    State of confusion, state of denial…..

  139. Hey i was peeking on the McCain site. Someone said that Cindy McCain use to be a race car driver. She is also a pilot. Is this true?

  140. wbboei,

    But the Sun article takes Obama’s veneer of liberalism at face value! The fact is that he tries to look like a liberal but is really a tool of the big money interests.

    He gets ‘liberal voting record’ points for things like abortion. But when money is involved, he changes the fine print.

  141. Obama will probably treat Move On and their demand for a filibuster with the same respect he showed Tavis Smiley’s presidential forum—he’ll ignore it.

  142. Who’s Sending Flowers to Hillary @ the sentate: copy and add your name then repost!

    I will be in South Dakota by that time 😀

    I am from Ohio

    birdgal Says:

    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    I am from CA

  143. Admin? can we arrange a “Senate Flower Bomb?” from here?

    I can call Senator Clinton’s Office tomorrow and find out as closely as possible when she will be back in Senate Session.

    IF we get a DATE, and you work some of your magical words, we can send that info FAR AND WIDE and there will be NO DOUBT that Hillary is our CHOICE when she goes back to work.

    I mean, THOUSANDS of Flowers sent to the Senate Chambers…

  144. # neetabug Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Hey i was peeking on the McCain site. Someone said that Cindy McCain use to be a race car driver. She is also a pilot. Is this true?

    And a heart surgeon? And nuclear physics hobbyist?

    Rich people have cool hobbiers.

    I wonder what Michelle’s hobbies are?


    This is an email from a MoveOn.Org person about Obama/FISA:

    Move.On.org started out as a petition drive during the1998 rightwing attempt to impeach President Clinton.

    Move.On’s goals were my goals. I was a charter member of Move.On.

    Until they broke their own rule and came out in support of Obama during the primary, Move.On had refrained from picking sides (among Democratic candidates) during primary elections, choosing instead to let the primaries play out and then work aggressively to elect the winner of the Democratic nomination.

    Oh, yes, they conducted a poll of their members before they endorsed Obama, but it was a poll that only a few out of the many Move.On members participated in.

    Now, Move.On is finding out what many of us figured out long ago … Barack Obama is NOT to be trusted .. he is NOT a man of his word.

    This would be amusing if it weren’t so sad … sad that the intelligent people at Move.On were so HOODWINKED.


    This is what can happen to people who don’t do their own research and homework.

    I think a lot of Obama supporters are shocked … shocked … that Obama is such a liar.

    All they needed to do was do some research before jumping on the Obama Bus.

    Why did they believe Obama when he’s been a liar from the start?

  146. turndown: you are absolutely right. He is not a liberal. As you say that is a facade. He is a tool of big money much of which is international. That money seeks access and influence to our goverment everywhere. There are other things about the article which I like but the conclusion is fundamentally wrong. Thanks for calling me on it because the record needs to be clear on this critical point in order to preserve our credibility and develop the right response.

  147. Question: isnt this flip flop on FISA (filabuster then support) similar to his flip flop on public financing (support later reject), similar to flip flop on Ecelon (legislative reform devolves to keep the status quo)? Ineach case did he not support big money interests at the expense of the public interest? That is precisely how it appears to me and other people I talk to. If we are wrong about that give us some rebuttal facts. The Salon article supports our position. And if all that is true what could the American People expect if this guy becomes president? Can they count on him to do anything he promises? If so, then tell me why, because the weight of the evidence suggests the polar opposite.

  148. Hi All,

    I like the flowers idea. At the same time, might not Hillary be better served if we sent her the cash?

    I have been wondering, what is her funding arrangement with BHO? I would not want to send a penny that ended up in Axelrod’s pocket!

    BTW, I’m not maxed on the primary for her.

  149. I’m revelling in moveon’s buyer’s remorse. This is the same organization that forgot the person who defended them from censure over the Gen. Betray-us flap. She voted against the censure and Bambino conveniently skipped town when the vote came to the floor.

  150. MoveOn demands a filibuster

    Insisting on a campaign promise that Obama would filibuster any wiretapping bill that included retroactive immunity for the telecommunications companies that let the government listen in, Obama’s allies at MoveOn are asking supporters to “call Sen. Obama today and tell him you’re counting on him to keep his word.”
    Please, MoveOn and the rest of those libs are anti-American Fools and if it wasn’t so dangerous in what they did. I could feel sorry for them but I can’t waste my time over their indignation and surprise that Obama is everything that Hillary Clinton supporters and the Republicans has been saying for months now.

    This guys is ALL about OBAMA and his CULT and that we need to bow down and worship him. He does not care about ISSUES as long as he controls the power and will sell each issue to the highest bidder. It’s not how you run a centralize government where all power comes to him.

    Obama is not interested in issues or principle he is interest in loyalty to him and will award you for that loyalty. Just like trashing our U.S Presidential seal…to ObamaSeal of American.

    Don’t you think that’s very telling of his EGOMANIA?

  151. Nader says he’ll get on Illinois presidential ballot
    Posted by Rick Pearson at 4:30 p.m.

    He’s back and he says he’s going to be on the Illinois ballot.

    Ralph Nader’s independent presidential campaign says it will file more than 50,000 candidacy petition signatures with the state Board of Elections on Monday—double what’s required to appear on the November ballot.

    In the words of the Nader/Gonzalez campaign, “This is good news for voters who want a choice that matters in the 2008 election and an agenda for numerous new directions for our country that a majority of Illinois voters support.”

    Gonzalez, Nader’s running mate, would be Matt Gonzalez, who has been a president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

    Running in the 2000 presidential contest as the Green Party candidate, Nader finished third in Illinois with more than 103,000 votes, compared to then-Democratic Vice President Al Gore’s 2,589,026 ballots and then-Republican Texas Gov. George W. Bush’s 2,019,421. In 2004, while challenging ballot access rules, Nader got slightly more than 3,500 votes in Illinois as a write-in.

    Nader is mounting similar petition drives to get on the ballot in other states, promoting a single-payer, government funded health-care system while blaming taxpayer support for ethanol as a leading cause for increased food prices worldwide.

    It is questionable, however, why the Nader campaign expended many resources to get on the Illinois ballot, given the favorite son candidacy of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama that makes it unlikely Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, will make many appearances in the state beyond further fundraising trips


  152. The flowers idea is to show her some love. It’s to let her know we are still in her corner, not O’s.

    She will need this with all the backtabbers up in Washington.

  153. Let’s not insult liberals b/c of Obama and move-on. BO is only a liberal on the surface. He’s just shallow and flip-flipper. No core principles.

    If you can go from promising to change how DC works by advocating public financing and flip the next day, this guy is just an opportunist.

    As for move-on, it’s a bunch of Naderites. Naderites are the equivalent of the Ron Paul of the left.

  154. Republican Hagel says he’d consider VP offer from Obama

    OMAHA, Neb. – Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said Friday he would consider serving as Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s running mate if asked, but he doesn’t expect to be on any ticket.

    Hagel’s vocal criticism of the Bush administration since the 2003 invasion of Iraq has touched off speculation that if Obama were to pick a Republican running mate, it might be Hagel. Hagel said in an interview with The Associated Press that after devoting much of his life to his country – in the Senate and the U.S. Army – he would have to consider any offer.

    “If it would occur, I would have to think about it,” Hagel said. “I think anybody, anybody would have to consider it. Doesn’t mean you’d do it, doesn’t mean you’d accept it, could be too many gaps there, but you’d have to consider it, I mean, it’s the only thing you could do. Why wouldn’t you?”

    In a book published this year, Hagel said that despite holding one of the Senate’s strongest records of support for President Bush, his standing as a Republican has been called into question because of his opposition to what he deems “a reckless foreign policy … that is divorced from a strategic context.”
    Obama been holding the V.P. slot like cheese to hungry rats.

  155. neetabug Says:

    June 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    I can see where the AA women are coming from. What they are saying why a white woman. Why not some AA woman. This is a slap in the face. This too shall come back to bite him.

    No won’t. I’m not taking a positive view at all. AA who support BO do so for one reason: he’s black. They don’t care if he commits murder. They’ll vote for him anyways.

    Remember when he threw his pastor and church under the bus? they still voted for him anyways. They want a black President and nothing will deter them from voting for him. Not Michelle. Not his flipping. Not his lack of a record.

  156. A Barack Obama Backer Rethinks His Support – Video


    Here is a YouTube video by a young man who has been a backer of Barack Obama – but who is now rethinking his support as a result of Obama’s dishonorable decision to not take public financing of the General Election Campaign as he had previously promised to do. It is interesting to watch the “wheels” in this young man’s mind turn as he comes to grips with who Obama really is. This MAY offer a sign of hope that some of Obama’s young supporters are starting to actually think about him and what he would mean for our country. We can hope, anyway.

  157. Filbertsf

    If he is elected. He will be the AA worst enemy, I can’t wait till someone ask him about reparations. Not that i want it. I just want to hear his response.

    During the debates between O and McCain I will submit this question. Lets see if they will ask him

  158. Obama fever yet to take hold
    Ohio’s Democrats cheer candidate, but many still smarting over Clinton
    Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:36 AM
    By Joe Hallett and Mark Niquette


    Well, it might take awhile.

    For sure, the 2,000 party activists attending the Ohio Democratic Party’s annual dinner last night at the state fairgrounds are behind their presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.

    But after his prolonged and sometimes bitter primary battle against Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, some of the faithful are swallowing hard, opting for a slow embrace of Obama rather than a warm hug.

    “I’m coming out of my mourning period,” said Katie McGlynn, 61, of Marietta, a Clinton supporter and former 14-year Democratic member of the Marietta City Council.

    Clinton beat Obama by 8 percentage points in the March 4 Ohio primary election, and it’s a safe bet that a hearty share of the Democrats in the Celeste Center had been Clinton supporters. Still, unity was the theme as Gov. Ted Strickland and a parade of other statewide elected Democrats — an endangered species just four years ago — pledged to deliver Ohio for Obama against Sen. John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee.

    “We’re coming together behind Barack Obama, and for the first time since 1996, a Democrat is going to win Ohio en route to the presidency of the United States,” said Chris Redfern, state Democratic Party chairman.

    “I will work my heart out for him,” said Strickland, who had endorsed Clinton.

    Obama supporters were assured: “I see a unification here that I haven’t seen in the past,” said William Caldwell, 54, of Beavercreek, director of the music program at Central State University.

    Some party members attending the dinner said Obama has work to do to reach out to Ohioans, especially in Appalachian Ohio and rural areas where Clinton and former President Bill Clinton have campaigned heavily.

    “We need to see him,” said Jane Crumrine, 56, a school counselor from Marietta.

    Shirley Woodford, 60, an insurance saleswoman from Caldwell, supported Clinton in the primary and said she has “a few reservations” about Obama, especially whether he has enough experience to be president.

    But Woodford said she plans to vote for Obama in the fall because she thinks the country needs a change in direction and that voting for McCain wouldn’t be the answer.

    “I can’t cut off my nose to spite my face,” Woodford said.

    Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, daughter of former Ohio Gov. John J. Gilligan and the event’s keynote speaker, said in an interview with The Dispatch that any lingering bitterness among Clinton supporters is understandable, but that Clinton “is making it clear to anyone that there is absolutely no choice between Barack Obama and John McCain.”

    Sebelius said that in the two weeks since Clinton suspended her campaign, “Democrats are very clearly coming together” behind Obama, and she dismissed the notion that McCain could pick off disgruntled Clinton supporters.

    “If we want to honor Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, the best possible way to do that is to support Barack Obama,” Sebelius said.

    “It strikes me as ludicrous that the way to honor her candidacy is to support John McCain.”

    Jason Mauk, executive director of the Ohio Republican Party, contended that disenchanted Clinton backers are giving McCain a hard look.

    “I am amazed at the level of interest we continue to get from Hillary Clinton supporters,” Mauk said. “These are voters who are not satisfied with their party’s presumptive nominee, and for various reasons, they’re rallying behind John McCain.

    “It speaks volumes about Sen. McCain’s crossover appeal.”

    Strickland questioned Obama’s experience while campaigning for Clinton — even saying that electing a president is not like picking an American Idol winner. But after a forum Friday in Chicago with Obama and Democratic governors, Strickland said he has no problem getting behind Obama now.

    “My advocacy for Sen. Clinton was not a negative reflection upon Obama, as such,” Strickland said. “It was just the fact that I was very committed to trying to help her because I thought she would be a very fine president.”

    Before the party dinner yesterday, the Ohio Democratic Party state central and executive committees unanimously selected state Treasurer Richard Cordray to be the party’s candidate on the Nov. 4 ballot for the unexpired term of former Attorney General Marc Dann, who resigned in disgrace last month.

    The move was a formality after Strickland endorsed Cordray on June 12.

    Ohio Republicans also had been scheduled to pick their candidate yesterday but postponed after several well-known candidates opted not to run.

    Redfern said 2,250 Democrats paid $150 each to attend the dinner, estimating it netted $500,000 for the party.


  159. neetabug

    if someone has the ballz to ask him the reparations question guaranteed little-bo-blue will crap his panties. i can already hear the “uhh, uhh, buhh, buhh, stuttering staccato.

  160. Bill Clinton Balks At Publicly Endorsing Obama
    June 22nd, 2008 by JOE GANDELMAN, Editor-In-Chief

    A Reuters reporter notes that former President Bill Clinton has not only not yet endorsed Democratic presumptive nominee Sen. Barack Obama but when given a chance to do so pointedly balked — an unspoken but clear stance contradicting his wife Senator Hillary Clinton’s public calls for party unity:

    The former first lady endorsed Obama, urged her supporters to rally behind him and is scheduled to campaign with him later this week.

    But her husband has not publicly endorsed the presumptive Democratic nominee to succeed President George W. Bush. Asked by journalists when he might do so, Clinton smiled and shook hands with spectators without acknowledging he heard the question.

    That would have been a no-brainer for most politicos. Just say “in a week” or “within the near future I’ll have a statement.’

    But by not answering and moving on Bill Clinton has likely made party unity among the Demmies tougher– or at least it will take longer. While his wife has publicly suspended her campaign and endorsed Obama and plans to campaign with the Illinois Senator next week, Bill Clinton has basically sent a message that he isn’t ready to endorse him yet. And — whether he meant for it or not — it’ll be a message for many Hillary Clinton supporters or Hillary Clinton supporters who cannot stand Obama.

    Even worse: at the same appearance he made it clear he was unenthusiastic about one of Obama’s proposals — yet another sign that will be taken that Bill Clinton is not truly behind Obama as the front runner (and the more paranoid will say it’s a sign that Mr. Clinton won’t do much to help Obama win because he’s harboring hopes of a Hillary Clinton candidacy in 2012):

    Former President Bill Clinton offered faint praise for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s energy policy on Sunday, saying he preferred it to that of Republican rival John McCain.

    “I think we’ll get better national policy next year,” Clinton told the U.S. Conference of Mayors in a speech centered on improving energy efficiency and reducing greenhouse gases.

    It was the former president’s first public appearance since his wife, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, ended her presidential campaign on June 7, after Obama emerged as the Democratic candidate in the November election.

    If he keeps this up, Bill Clinton won’t be making many public appearances at public events run by the Obama campaign.

    Bill Clinton is again proving that unlike the Bill Clinton of the 90s who might be emotional but knew how to use it in his and his causes’ interest, the 2008 Bill Clinton is a loose cannon seemingly more focused on personal grudges and power than the larger issue of party unity and helping Democrats as a party regain power and capture the White House.

  161. Gore may need to work hometown for Obama support

    CARTHAGE, Tenn. (AP) — If former Vice President Al Gore is serious about trying to rally voters behind Barack Obama’s presidential bid, he might want to start in his hometown.

    Supporters in the sleepy town about 50 miles east of Nashville witnessed Gore announce both his 1988 and 2000 presidential bids from the courthouse steps — and several express regret that he’s not on the ballot this year.

    “I don’t know much about Al Gore other than that I wish he was president,” said Carolyn Mofield, 61, who works at Kim’s Frame and Art across the street from the courthouse.

    But Mofield and others interviewed in the days before Gore officially endorsed Obama last week said they supported Hillary Rodham Clinton’s failed bid — not least because of lingering fondness for former President Bill Clinton. And few seem eager to rally behind Barack Obama.

    Gore’s roots produced a convincing win in his home county in 2000 but weren’t deep enough to carry the state, and Tennessee’s 11 electoral votes helped put George W. Bush in the White House instead.

    Clinton won the state’s Democratic primary by 13 percentage points in February. In Smith County, a rural area about 45 miles east of Nashville, she took 2,385 votes to Obama’s 343.

    Gore, 60, has campaigned worldwide to draw attention to climate change, which led to the Oscar-winning documentary “An Inconvenient Truth.” He shared the Nobel Peace Prize with a U.N. panel of scientists last year.

    Memories of the Gore family run back for generations in this town of about 2,200. Arliss Gibbs, who used to work on the Gore family farm, said he remembers a young Al Gore just home from his military service ignoring his advice not to work shirtless on a hot summer day — and getting a severe sunburn.

    Gibbs, 75, also supported Clinton and said he isn’t certain he’d now heed advice from Gore to vote for Obama.

    “I just don’t know how I feel about that,” said Gibbs, citing inflammatory remarks by Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    Charlie Carter, who runs Charlie’s Barber Shop in downtown Carthage, said he hopes Gore runs for president again in 2012 but vowed to stay out of this year’s election regardless of Gore’s role.

    “I wouldn’t vote for my momma if she was a Republican, and I won’t vote for this black guy either,” said Carter, 67. “I just don’t like him is all.”

    What I don’t like about Obama or shall I say his weakness is that OTHER people are carrying this guy and he can’t win unless Gore, Clintons and other use their earned trust with the American people that Obama has yet to receive.

  162. admin Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Yay Bill!

    Damn right yay Bill!!!!!

    Bill the PUMA!

  163. ChrisC Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Hi All,

    I like the flowers idea. At the same time, might not Hillary be better served if we sent her the cash?

    I have been wondering, what is her funding arrangement with BHO? I would not want to send a penny that ended up in Axelrod’s pocket!

    BTW, I’m not maxed on the primary for her.


    Chris, please DO help Hillary retire her debt! There are plenty of maxed-out people who can send flowers.

    We’ve all been worried about whether the money would safely go to the debt, and people have looked into it, and they say by law it MUST go to the debt, and capable people are wtching the situation. Please go to Heidi Li’s blog Potpourri and read the details. She is a wonderful totaly pro-Hill person and a very careful researcher. She has donaton links.

    Or you could mail a check, just so it’s marked “for campaign fund” or “for campaign debt” or something like that.

  164. wbboei Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
    Question: isnt this flip flop on FISA (filabuster then support) similar to his flip flop on public financing (support later reject), similar to flip flop on Ecelon (legislative reform devolves to keep the status quo)? Ineach case did he not support big money interests at the expense of the public interest?

    For some other examples of him actually favoring the money interests.

    In Illinois state senate:

    A casino vote which he pretended to oppose then voted for the casino, then claimed he hit the wrong button! I think there were several votes like this: he claimed he hit the wrong button after voting contrary to his public statements.

    Local company relocating and he supported the relocation, not the workers.

    US Senate:

    Nuclear waste warning bill he favored, but kept chanigng the fine print till it requred nothing at all from the companies.

    An airline company went bankrupt and he voted agaisnt them having to pay their pension fund.

    Something favoring a particular nuclear power company? Exelon?

    GEnerally favoring ‘clean coal’ and corn to ethanol projects which are environmentally controversial. Compare McCain’s stand, which favors sugar to ethanol iirc.

  165. wbboei,

    Btw I’m aka 1950democrat. 🙂 Under which name you might find old posts from me about some of these cases. The bankruptcy pension case (and plant relocation) were discussed here during the NV primary.

    Or at my h t t p : / / 1950democrat.livejournal.com
    which can be kind of more or less searched at
    h t t p : / / http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=8XV&q=site%3A1950democrat.livejournal.com+&btnG=Search
    by adding your search term to what’s in the search box already.

  166. wbboei Says:
    June 22nd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
    turndown: you are absolutely right. He is not a liberal. As you say that is a facade. He is a tool of big money much of which is international. That money seeks access and influence to our goverment everywher

    I’m not smart enough to understand international money. But I concluded long ago that BO is a dream candidate for domestic corporation money.

    Aiui, the corporations don’t like being bedfellows with the Bush/Reagan Religious Right. Eg Disney has been trying to give their gay employees domestic partner rights for a long time, even though the RR try to boycott them. Think about abortion/birth control too: the corporations that sell to consumers want the consumers to have plenty of disposable income and fewer unwanted babies (many of whom eventualy end up being supported by tax money, and all of whom will need schoolteachers which is not how corporations want people spending their time).

  167. Chris and others,

    Heidi has a new post up at

    h t t p : / / heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/, “The Politics of RETIRE THE DEBT”.

    She is very knowledgeable, is in a lot of conferfence calls, some of them very small. 🙂

  168. INSIDE JOB?

    From a link on noquarter to this link, about HRC’s ad(s) being sabotaged from the inside:


    (Watch out for line wrap “…who-put-this-” going onto to “huge-….”)

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