REZKO For Dummies, Part IV

Since we began our REZKO for Dummies series (Part I and Part II and Part III) we now have actual answers to some Rezko questions we raised in April 2007.

1. Is Rezko an issue Republicans will exploit or a figment of our imagination?

Big Media outlets came to this website last year to scoff and mock us for our focus on Rezko. These same Big Media outlets subsequently wrote articles much more damning than anything we ever wrote. They even called Rezko, Obama’s “bagman”.

By the time the Rezko trial began many others finally began to write about Obama’s 20 year relationship with slumlord Rezko and Obama’s questionable judgment.

On the day Rezko was convicted – the day after the Democratic primary calendar ended – the Republicans pounced:

The Republicans will exploit the Obama Chicago Culture of Corruption in the same way Democrats exploited the Republican Culture of Corruption to victory in Ohio. Republicans will inform voters of the Obama hypocrisy in condemning lobbyists while associating for more than 20 years with the most corrupt elements in Chicago.

2. Is Rezko the corrupt force he appeared to be when we first started writing about him in April 2007?

Strike the word “alleged” from condemnations of Rezko. Obama’s slumlord friend has now been convicted of corruption in the Federal Courthouse in Chicago.

A federal jury found Rezko guilty on 16 of 24 counts in a trial that exposed an ingrained culture of corruption in Illinois government that has continued to flourish under Blagojevich and comes during a federal probe of his administration.

3. Is Obama imperiled by the Rezko conviction?

In a maudlin letter written by Rezko to the judge presiding in his trial, Obama’s slumlord friend Rezko made 2 points. First, Rezko said, the prosecutors are indeed interested in Senator Barack Obama’s dealings with Rezko. The second point is essentially ‘I’ll never talk’. Let’s look at these 2 statements in reverse order.

Patrick Fitzgerald the U.S. attorney in Illinois has a long history with recalcitrant witnesses. Recall Judy Miller. Judith Miller was a New York Times reporter who refused to testify in the trial of Republican “Scooter” Libby, the Bush administration official Fitzgerald had indicted on various charges.

Miller claimed, for months, she would never testify. Miller said jail time was a futile gesture because she would never testify. Never. Miller based her refusal to testify on being a journalist who would not ‘betray’ a confidential source. Fitzgerald persevered in demanding Miller’s testimony. Miller took her case to the Supreme Court all the while insisting that it was a futile gesture to imprison her because she would never talk. Miller said “I do not make confidentiality pledges lightly, but when I do I must honor them.”

Miller was sent to jail.

Big Media fully supported Judy Miller in her refusal to testify. The New York Times restated Miller’s refusal to testify – ever.

Reporters from other news organizations have endured longer jail time in the same important cause over the years, but for us and we hope for others, it should be clear after 41 days in a Virginia jail that Ms. Miller is not going to change her mind. She appears unwavering in her mission to safeguard the freedom of the press to do its job effectively.

If she is not willing to testify after 41 days, then she is not willing to testify. It’s time for the judge and the prosecutor to let Ms. Miller go.

After sitting in jail for 85 days, Judy Miller decided to testify.

Antoin “Tony” Rezko faces a maximum sentence of 300 years.

John Kass, a columnist for the Chicago Tribune summarized the Rezko future this way:

The last thing Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich needed was that letter written by convicted Illinois influence peddler Tony Rezko promising he’d never rat out his pals.

The imprisoned political fixer insisted that federal prosecutors are squeezing him, according to an exclusive Tribune report written by federal courts reporter Jeff Coen for Thursday’s paper.

“They are pressuring me to tell them the ‘wrong’ things that I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama,” the fundraiser (and Obama’s personal real estate fairy) wrote in a letter to U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve.

“I have never been a party to any wrongdoing that involved the Governor or the Senator,” Rezko argued. “I will never fabricate lies about anyone else for selfish purposes. I will take whatever comes my way, but I will never hurt innocent people.”

Amen, Tony. But those who say nothing don’t brag. They shut up.

Yet those who promise to say nothing, and promise it loudly, often have much to say later, in a calm and rational voice, meekly from the witness box.

What about Obama?

Rezko, contrary to a year’s worth of Obama propaganda, has now stated that Obama is of interest to the Federal prosecutors in Illinois. Years ago, Fitzgerald convicted the former (Republican) governor of Illinois and is intent on rooting out and destroying the culture of corruption in which Obama thrives.

U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald, whose office is leading a probe into Blagojevich’s administration and the governor’s personal finances, said he hoped the verdict would be a wake-up call for Illinois politicians.

“I hope people step back and say, ‘When you do all that stuff, it’s going to come back and bite you in a serious way,’ ” Fitzgerald said. “If the morals don’t get to them, then I hope the fear of going to jail does.”

Blagojevich, who swept to victory in 2002 with a pledge to clean up Illinois government after the Ryan years, has not been charged with any wrongdoing. But his name was invoked repeatedly during the trial as several witnesses said they heard him give an enthusiastic thumbs-up to the notion of steering state business to campaign donors.

Rezko has an ugly future.

The verdict was hardly the end to Rezko’s legal peril. He is scheduled to go on trial later this year in a separate federal fraud case involving his attempts to gain financing for an ailing chain of pizza restaurants he once owned. In addition, a judge in Las Vegas issued an arrest warrant last month for Rezko, accused of skipping out on $450,000 in gambling debts he ran up in 2006 even as he knew he was under federal scrutiny in Chicago.

Obama crony – Democratic Governor Blagojevich – has an ugly future ahead too.

Prosecutors accused Rezko of misusing his influence with Blagojevich to corrupt two state boards, one that handled a $40 billion pension fund for most Illinois teachers and the other that vetted hospital projects.

The governor leaned heavily on Rezko and fellow fundraiser Christopher Kelly for advice and granted them considerable sway over administration policy and appointments. Kelly, a roofing contractor awaiting trial on unrelated federal tax fraud charges, was named by prosecutors as an unindicted co-schemer in the case against Rezko. [snip]

Testimony produced a series of stunning allegations of misconduct that went well beyond the scope of the criminal charges against Rezko.

Former state official Ali Ata told jurors he bought his post with bribes to Rezko and campaign contributions to Blagojevich. Ata was also one of several witnesses who said Rezko told them of a plot to kill the criminal probe against him by pulling strings with the Bush administration to get Fitzgerald fired.

Investigators have also been conducting probes into state hiring, contracting and board appointments under Blagojevich.

Rezko, who has written he won’t implicate Obama has stark decisions to make. It appears from trial testimony that there is sufficient evidence and witnesses to bring down Governor Blagojevich without the assistance of Antoin “Tony” Rezko. So a Rezko deal with prosecutors to “flip” on the “reform” governor will not get Rezko much of a discount on the maximum jail sentence of 300 years.

Rezko however, could provide plenty of first hand information on the tens of millions of government dollars Obama helped him obtain, the other favors Obama did for him as a state senator, and of course there is the house.

A Rezko flip on Obama could get Rezko a large discount on his potentially hefty sentence and help with immunity on the additional trials Rezko will have to endure. Sentence day is September 3, 2008.

The conviction of Antoin “Tony” Rezko on corruption charges creates a lot of incentive for him to cooperate with federal authorities who may be building other cases, a former state and federal prosecutor says.

Federal sentencing guidelines developed in the 1990s sometimes include “draconian” numbers to be faced by those convicted of crimes, said Bill Roberts, managing partner of Hinshaw & Culbertson and a former U.S. attorney, Sangamon County state’s attorney and chief counsel to then-Gov. Jim Edgar.

For instance, Rezko faces $4 million in fines and as much as 300 years in prison if he gets the maximum when he’s sentenced Sept. 3, according to the Chicago Tribune.

But a section added to the guidelines promotes cooperation by saying that judges can depart from the guidelines in cases where a defendant has “provided substantial assistance in the investigation or prosecution of another person who has committed an offense.”

“That’s a huge tool the government holds,” Roberts said. “And it truly can almost be a get-out-of-jail card for the individual who has knowledge the government deems important.”

Perhaps Antoin “Tony” Rezko will hold up longer than the 8 weeks it took for Judy Miller to testify. Perhaps the Chicago Culture of Corruption is safe from federal prosecutors.

What is clear now is that Barack Obama has a friend in need. On September 3, 2008 Obama will find out if Rezko is a friend in deed.


387 thoughts on “REZKO For Dummies, Part IV

  1. Admin. you are right. If he doesnt flip and serves the full 300 years he will be pretty old when he gets out. I am glad to see they dont need him to convict the governor, but they do need him for bwaak. That is where he cuts his best deal and perhaps hin only one. Protective custody, new identity are warranted, just like a mafia witness.

  2. Texan . . . . wow. We all know Rubin. I was reading about Feldman today. Big Hillary supporter, georgetown law professor, big fundraiser–goal to retire full 20mm debt. What this says to me is dean aint gonna fuck us at the convention.

  3. I am sorry. I was inartful. What this suggests to me is that Chairman Dean and Co-chairman Pelosi will find that is it just and proper to follow the prescribed rules and past practices governing the the convention and will see the merit and the virute of respecting the rights and obligations of all parties in attendance.

  4. admin, great post! I hadn’t realized that the feds had enough to go after the governor without Rezko! When they get him, then it will be Obama’s turn. If he is President then(which I doubt) he will be impeached!

    Now for why they hired Solis today thats another story with a possibility of several different endings, we’ll will wait and see what happens in the next couple of weeks!

  5. Just keep the faith. There’s a lot going on which hopefully will bear fruit in coming days or weeks. We’ll post on this when it is advisable. Keep the faith. NObama, NOway, NOvember.

  6. Admin> they really better keep him away from the general prison population or else someone will stick a shiv in him. I hope he is well guarded and the guards are well screened. I am very concerned about this his safety given what is at stake here.

  7. The old saying by confuscius may you be condemned to live in interesting times sure applies to this election season and the amazing thing is much of it passes unnoticed by 90% of the people.

  8. Having spent 3 years working for the state of Texas prison system those that are in solitary are not any safer. I saw just as many injuries from inmates in solitare as in general population. The moral of the story is if they want to take him out, they will. The only thing that may save him is the fact that Obama doesnt need another controversy.
    The note to the Judge maybe a plea for Obama and the Governor not to have him killed in prison. That was probably the reason for the note to the judge!

  9. Confloyd: were you working there when US District Court Judge Justice (Injustice to some) decided that the Texas Prison System violated the cruel and unsual punishment prohibitions of the Eigth Amendment and took jurisdiction of the system? If so I wonder what you thought of his action, and the results. I know alot of prison staff were not happy with it. Seems like it was a trustee run system before but not as bad as Angola in Louisiana.

  10. Wbboei, I worked in the system after William Wayne Justice’s jurisdiction came in. Yes before it was run by the inmates themselves. I x-rayed many inmates that were the x-ray techs during the inmate run medical system. It was strange, it is no place for a woman. I decided that after I quit and was out of the system for a while. It hardens you and become less sympathetic. It was also hard to change from doing inmates to doing “free world” patients again, although my work in the prison system is only a small part of my resume, it had a profound effect.
    I think it was better for the medical system to be run by the free world and not the incarcerated one.

  11. Thanks Kostner. Bower is very good. Cavuto tried the same what if she becomes the vice president would you vote for obama thing that he always does and Bower gave a good response. It is too hypothetical to happen but just in theory what a marvelous idea for the country to have a mccain clinton ticket–it would forshadow the emergence of a true centrist party. She is too good to waste on the gangster and his entourage.

  12. Confloyd: it hardens anyone to work in that kind of enviroment. One of the characteristics I have noticed with inmnates is the way they will try to con anyone in authority and that is part of the reason it hardens you. The other reason is your safety is always at risk and you have to be very vigilant.

  13. Those of us of a certain age remember a show called The Outer Limits. It was a sci fi show which promised to take off where Rod Serlings Twilight Zone left off, but never really did. In the first episode, this extraterrestial being that looked alot like Karl Rove came to earth with a big book entited To Serve Man. Well . . .everybody assumed that meant to help homo sapien erectus achieve a higher state of wisdom, but it turned out in the end that it was a cookbook.

    Well . . . we have a similar situation in this election dont we. I mean we have got a candidate who comes from Illionos Combine and blathers on about CHANGE. Everbody assumes he is talking about transition, progress and the like. But by the end of this eposiode we are likely to find out that what he is really talking about is monetary currency in his pocket.

    In that case the laugh would be on us.

  14. Admin said:
    “Just keep the faith. There’s a lot going on which hopefully will bear fruit in coming days or weeks. We’ll post on this when it is advisable. Keep the faith. NObama, NOway, NOvember.”

    That is still my prayer. I keep hoping something good will happen to save the country from the mess the DNC & Co. is trying to make of it.

    When I get a little depressed at how slowly things are developing I remember the darkest hour is just before the shit hits the fan for the DNC.

  15. Close Race: McCain Stays in Range Amid Challenges for Obama

  16. This pretty much sums everything up, and is great writing Admin:

    After sitting in jail for 85 days, Judy Miller decided to testify.

    Antoin “Tony” Rezko faces a maximum sentence of 300 years.

    Tony Rezko isn’t spending the rest of his life in prison. He doesn’t have that mentality, which is why he went from engineer to political fixer. Tony doesn’t view himself as Joe Average and there’s no way that he’s going down the river for Obama, Blagojevich or anyone else. Tony sees himself as these men’s kingmaker, not their pawn.

    Now, it should be mentioned that Jeremiah Wright probably didn’t think Bambs would turn on him, either. But Wright isn’t looking at 300 years hard time.

    Rezko, of course, doesn’t want to get Donald Young-ed or Tamara Greene-d. Hence the letter to the judge, as was mentioned in the comments above this one.

    The problem for Rezko is that nobody knows that he doesn’t want to go to jail more than Bambs. Fortunately for Rezko, much like Larry Sinclair, there is so much attention on him that if anything at all were to happen to him then the resulting firestorm would likely engulf Obama’s candidacy. Thus, he has some protection due to the threat of mutual assured destruction to Bambs’ aspirations.

    This makes me wonder if all of stick-boy’s tough talk about guns and such is meant to get back to Rezko. I doubt it — Bambi is just a gangster punk wannabe and I would imagine such rhetoric fits him with or without Rezko — but you never know. Remember Scooter Libby’s message about trees or whatever to Judy Miller in the hopes of trying to get her to stay quiet.

  17. Obama Tries To Have It Both Ways On Free Trade Issue
    From Detroit Free Press

    By Tom Walsh

    [D]isappointingly, but not surprisingly, Obama pandered in the Democratic Party primaries to labor unions and others in the party base who blame low-wage foreign countries for stealing American jobs. He vowed to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and he whined about China’s currency. On Monday in Michigan, he tried to have it both ways.

    In a Flint speech, he did not vow to ram changes in NAFTA down the throats of our Canadian and Mexican neighbors. …

    “I believe in free trade. It can save money for our consumers, generate business for U.S. exporters and expand global wealth,” Obama said in Flint Monday morning. Then he reverted to the anti-trade rhetoric of the primaries, zinging South Korea for its lopsided automotive trade with the United States and accusing foreign nations of unfair subsidies and closed markets…

    “The politics of this were unfortunate in the primaries,” said Martin Zimmerman, a University of Michigan business professor and former chief economist and group vice president of Ford Motor Co. …

    “The question is: How far can you back off on your primary positions once you’re in office?” Zimmerman said.

    [Kyle Schwulst, Founder Of ElectroJet Inc. and Dan Kocks, President of Warren-based Enterprise Automotive Systems] a couple of small-company guys from Michigan, didn’t wait around for Obama or anyone else to change the global rules.

    Instead, they took the leap into exporting by joining trade missions led by Automation Alley, the southeast Michigan consortium of 900 technology firms and local agencies. …

    President Obama, or President John McCain, will do a far greater service if they boost support for gung-ho business folks like Schwulst and Kocks than if they act like America is a weakling that can’t

  18. this is too funny to pass:


    Editorial of The New York Sun June 17, 2008

    The news that Senator Kerry’s name is on a list of potential running mates that Senator Obama is circulating on Capitol Hill, according to NBC News, was enough to get our attention. Maybe they meant the president of the New School, Robert Kerrey? Both men are decorated combat veterans of Vietnam that would bring Mr. Obama some of the national security heft he is apparently seeking in a vice presidential candidate. No, according to a report in yesterday’s New York Times, “During the course of two long dinners at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington this year and last, Mr. Obama sought the advice of Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts.”

    Ah, the Democrats, the party of the working man, where the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, lives in the Ritz-Carlton, and when the party’s two presidential nominees want to go out for dinner, they do it not over beer and burgers or Chinese food, but at the Four Seasons Hotel, where the dinner menu includes foie gras and a vodka-caviar gelée. What did they talk about? Whether Mr. Kerry’s Yale education was better than the one Mr. Obama got at Columbia and Harvard Law School? How Mr. Kerry dealt with the National Journal ranking as America’s most liberal senator, a mantle that was later assumed by Mr. Obama? How Mr. Obama can end the Iraq War with the same sort of retreat that Mr. Kerry precipitated in Vietnam? How Mr. Kerry’s alienation from Catholicism over abortion rights is similar to Mr. Obama’s problem with Trinity United?

  19. Texan — The Denver Group looks fantastic. That is exactly the kind of organization that we need and it seems that there are more were it came from. Perfect.


    meiyingsu — John McCain should be getting blown out by Obama right now based on the circumstances. That he is not should and is worrying the Bambians. They are in a tizzy and even have deployed Gore, as was mentioned in the previous thread.

    I like Gore, but he’s not bringing any votes. Again, the entire Dem Elite Reject Posse are losers — that is the trait which they all share. And that includes, sadly, Gore.

    Well guess what losers do?

    They lose.

    That 16% approval Congress Lady, Countrywide Dodd, Sir Swiftboat and the rest of the jokes think they have things in hand tells you all you need to know. They think they’re set now because they found an exotic, dorkish stick-boy with a grin?

    Ha ha ha.

    At this point in the last election build-up, Swiftboat was doing laps around Dubya.

    The Swiftboating of Bambi hasn’t even begun yet, and there’s SO damn much material. It’s like having an entire ocean to draw water from.

    Just swiftboating Michelle would cost Bambs the election. “Whitey” will cost him several points, for sure, if the timing is right when it’s dropped (I’m assuming LC Johnson has this correct, and I believe that he does).

    McCain should be down 10-15 points right now, and he’s not. He’s picking up female voters and evangelicals, and he’s cruising in the southern states. Georgia is not in play. Bambi is ceding FL and OH.

    Remember the people who said Mac was going to win in an electoral vote landslide?

    They’re looking very good right now. There are only a very few lines of attack on McCain and more often than not when they are used they end up making the attacker look like an ass. See Chris Matthews for exhibit A:

    You’re going to question the physical ability or strength of a guy that lasted 7 years in the Hanoi Hilton and who has Mama McCain omnipresent?

    Good luck, and good luck not looking like a complete d*ckhead like Matthews made himself become in that segment in the video.

    McCain is exactly where he needs to be, particularly given the tepidness on the right to him and his campaign.

    When the conservative voters realize that they are either going to get Mac or else a radical, exotic Manchurian Candidate, the choice will be simple. So don’t put much stock in the polls. By the time this election is over there will be no “Bradley Effect,” only a “Bambi Effect.”

    I’ll give you a great example: the state of Pennsylvania. Polls (which have not been modeled properly) show Bambs up like 5 point recently.

    I have lived all over this state for the majority of my life and I can very accurately say that I know it and its electorate well.

    If the election were tomorrow, Obama loses PA, and probably by a fair margin.

    People in the state are still pissed with him about the ‘bitter’ remarks. Many here don’t like him and see him as an arrogant, inexperienced chump. The county I live in (Luzerne) went to Clinton to the tune of around 75-25. Those people aren’t voting for Bambi, I can assure you of that.

    From what I have seen of the modeling, the “Operation Chaos” effect of Repubs registering Dem is not being properly accounted for and it is skewing the results of the polls in Bambs’ favor.

    Remember, Bambs outspent HRC something fierce here and spent 6 weeks on a bus tour yet he still got drilled by 10 points. That’s a very bad sign for November.

    The best thing McCain did was to start talking about drilling for oil domestically. This is a can’t-lose issue and will serve him extremely well throughout the country, including PA.

    I think manmade global warming is wildly overstated if it exists at all. I agree with Kostner on this point. And this is coming from someone who has voted straight-ticket Dem his entire life.

    What voters care about is the here and now, what affects them today. The biggest thing affecting people, as a whole, today, is the price of oil. It’s bigger than Iraq, bigger than Bush, bigger than anything. Most people understand that the high price of gas is driving up food prices as well. Right now, the price of gas is the symbol of what is wrong with the economy.

    John McCain is talking about increasing the supply of oil, as well as giving America more distance from the OPEC nations and the undesirables some of its members are associated with. Of course, this backdoors with terrorism.

    Barack Obama is talking about the price of gas being where it ought to be even if it got there too fast.

    Gigantic advantage McCain.

    In fact, if the prices stay as they are throughout the fall, this issue alone could win McCain the presidency. The gas ‘twofer’ of people’s pocketbooks and the terrorism connection of being reliant on OPEC nations could, without a doubt, catapult McCain over Bambi.

    There is no more perfect of an issue to paint Bambi into the ‘radical liberal’ corner than this. Conserve, no more drilling (even with the fields under the Dakotas or wherever) and no biggy on high prices = out of touch uber-lib to many of the electorate.

    It doesn’t matter how MSNBC or any other Bambi Zone tries to play this. That is irrelevant. MSNBC is not paying people’s bills at the pump. So long as that bill is high and one guy is offering a direct solution and the other guy is not, the latter guy is going to suffer. And the higher the price people are paying, the greater the suffering at the ballot box for Conservation Boy.


    John McCain has a clear shot at Obama now, metaphorically speaking, with the gas issue. It is about time he finally pulled the trigger as he did yesterday.

    If I were the McCain camp, I would hammer this issue as much as humanly possible and define Bambi with it. He is the anti-capitalist, out-of-touch liberal who is more concerned with land in Alaska almost none of us will ever see than how far Joe Six Pack’s paycheck will stretch when it comes time to fill ‘er up.

    McCain is essentially tied with Bambi now. The gas issue is a linchpin in his pulling ahead of the Bambometer and staying there. Time to turn stick-boy into the anti-populist and McCain into The People’s Champ.

  20. If Mr. Obama hasn’t realized that a majority of Americans consider Mr. Kerry to be insufferable and many a phony more suited to being president of France than of America, he deserves the Massachusetts senator as a running mate. Given Mr. Obama’s recent propensity for policy pirouettes, maybe he’d be a perfect match with the senator famous for being for funding the troops in Iraq before he voted against it. What a team. What a party. With this ticket the Republicans could just let the television late-night talk show joke-writers run the campaign against the Democrats. That’s not to say there isn’t a tradition of wealthy, patrician presidential candidates from the Democratic Party winning support from working-class Americans. Franklin Delano Roosevelt is the best example. But for a candidate like Mr. Obama, who lost white blue-collar voters in the primary to Senator Clinton, to be considering Mr. Kerry of Nantucket, Georgetown, and Beacon Hill as a running mate over dinner at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington — well, we wouldn’t want to make too much of it, but we wouldn’t want to make too little of it, either.

  21. The “Kerry as VP” thing is crap. Probably designed to help Kerry as he fights to not be primaried. Of course, the Bambi camp being as stupid and tin-eared as it is, they probably don’t know this will hurt Kerry and not help him in MA.

    What would Kerry do if he were Bambi’s VP candidate, tell everyone they need to vote for Backy because he’s black?

    Ha ha ha.

    Losers — aren’t they a hoot?

  22. I’m laughing my ass off reading those comments from a right wing site on this rumored Obama/Kerry partnership, here’s some for you guys to enjoy:
    Oh Please, Please Let This Be True!

    At least the Swift Boat Vets can save on ad production. Everything is already in the can, ready to go! Bring it on!

    Perfect! Two real losers and one who ‘knows the ropes’

    With Obama’s excellent judgment, I would say we stand a chance.

    No chance… unfortunately.

    Ain’t happening. Too good to be true.

    One can only hope.

    Oh yeah! Is it my birthday?

    “…and when the party’s two presidential nominees want to go out for dinner, they do it not over beer and burgers or Chinese food, but at the Four Seasons Hotel, where the dinner menu includes foie gras and a vodka-caviar gelée.”

    Do they serve arugula as well?

  23. btw, Kerry is vulnerable in MA, here’s some new polling information…

    Since then, Kerry has won three more terms in the Senate, but he hasn’t won the hearts of state voters.

    Our exclusive 7News Suffolk University Poll proves it: Just 38% of Bay State voters hope he’s re-elected in November, while 51%–more than half–want someone new. Nine per cent don’t know yet what they want.

    “These numbers signal vulnerability. In a perfect world, this would be a huge problem for John Kerry. The hook is, is there a candidate on the ballot who can beat him,” Professor David Paleologos, Suffolk University, said.

    Governor Deval Patrick doesn’t do much better.

    Gov. Patrick says, “…by the end of my second term…”

    Patrick is already talking as if he’s won four more years, but our poll found only 39% of state voters believe he deserves re-election…and 41% want to give someone else a chance. Twenty percent are undecided.

    In fact, given his close relationship with Barack Obama, many voters here won’t be surprised if Patrick is in Washington when the next governor’s race rolls around in 2010.

    Asked if Patrick would join a President Obama’s administration 47% said yes, 20% no, with 31% not sure.

    Andy Hiller, 7News Political Editor
    “You are going to run for re-election?”

    Deval Patrick, Governor
    “Of course, that’s the plan.”

    Andy Hiller, 7News Political Editor
    “What if Obama is elected and offers you a job in his administration?”

    Deval Patrick, Governor
    “Then I will say, ‘Mr. President I’m honored to be asked, but I can do more good for you and the Commonwealth if I remain as Governor’–I’ve rehearsed that, thank you very much.”

    Andy Hiller, 7News Political Editor
    “Care to know what percentage of state voters don’t believe that?”

    Deval Patrick, Governor

    I believe the Governor, because he’d be nuts to say he won’t take a job with President Obama so clearly unless he’s sure he wouldn’t.

    But I also think John Kerry would, because I suspect Kerry has the same opinion of Massachusetts voters as our poll says they have of him.

    I’m Andy Hiller, that’s my “Instinct.”

  24. And for the females in the electorate: Teresa and Michelle.

    That combo would surpass all possible permutations of The Wonder Twins of Bitch. They would probably fight over which is more authentically African (Teresa was born in Mozambique).

    I’m with the GOPers — please let this happen. This is about as close to an assured loss for Backy as we can get.

    Sadly, I think this is just a ruse designed to help Kerry in MA, to try to give him some of Backy’s (nonexistent) big-eared ‘rub,’ as it were. We’ll see.

  25. Kostner —

    That makes perfect sense, which is why they would be flying the VP rumor now, to try to stop the tide against Kerry.

    This is important to Backy. If a second of his peeps falls in MA, especially Swiftboat, he is royally f*cked. The word is out: Ofraudma destroys his follower’s chances at the polls.

    The best part of all of this is that by trying to show those in MA that Backy thinks highly of Swiftboat and thus so should they they are almost certainly ensuring that Kerry’s numbers will fall further as people are reminded of the chief reason why they are looking to kick his butt out of the Senate.

    We are now seeing the irrefutable evidence that the Ofraudians are trying to spend political capital they don’t have. They are destroying their supplicants, not aiding them.

    And, like quicksand, the more Bambioozle tries to struggle against that truth the more damage he is likely to do to his Jacobin Posse and, thus, himself.

    Bambi, I think it is time for you to reunite with Deval and stump for Kerry. You know, Axelrod I meets Axelrod II for some tea and arrugula.

    This is really starting to get good. The walls are closing in on the Cult, and they are closing in fast and hard. If we can cripple Kerry in MA that would be an enormous blow to Bambi and substantiate that he has the poison touch.

    Anyone got a donation contact for Kerry’s primary challenger. We really need to help this guy out. There is a huge opportunity here to inflict major damage on Bambi’s flank.

  26. AKA Universal,

    search ed oreilly under google. he actually has a pretty good site. lots of press clips there, looks like the MA media are so bored and tired of john kerry, i assume they’d like to retire kerry for a long time.

  27. if mccain plays the drilling right, i predict he’ll get a decent bump in polls.

    here’s the latest rass polling on oil drilling…

    67% Support Offshore Drilling, 64% Expect it Will Lower Prices Tuesday, June 17, 2008

    Most voters favor the resumption of offshore drilling in the United States and expect it to lower prices at the pump, even as John McCain has announced his support for states that want to explore for oil and gas off their coasts.

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey—conducted before McCain announced his intentions on the issue–finds that 67% of voters believe that drilling should be allowed off the coasts of California, Florida and other states. Only 18% disagree and 15% are undecided. Conservative and moderate voters strongly support this approach, while liberals are more evenly divided (46% of liberals favor drilling, 37% oppose).

  28. Kostner:

    Thanks, I will do that (look up O’Reilly’s site).

    Great get on the drilling stats.

    The issue is a guaranteed winner for Mac; he can crush Obama and his reed-thin frame with this matter and that’s exactly what he should do.

    Time for Backy to do some time in his own Hanoi Hilton.

  29. Found a great blog site …

    here are some of the highlights of articles found there!

    Obama Snubs Odinga
    Not the cousin he knew?
    Barack Hussein Obama II is ignoring his Kenyan cousin, Prime Minister Raila Odinga, during his visit to the United States.
    Gore and Obama Cut Climate Deal
    Dateline USA….
    Washington insiders say former US Vice President Al Gore yesterday endorsed Barack Hussein Obama for President in exchange for a promise to be appointed a special climate change ambassador of some sort if Obama wins the general election.
    Wannabe Commander-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama Could Not Qualify as FBI Agent or CIA Officer
    Only in America!
    The presumptive Democratic Presidential candidate … the man who wants to be Commander-in-Chief … in charge of the world’s largest military … and most powerful nuclear arsenal … could never qualify as an American FBI agent or CIA officer because of his troubling history of associating with radicals and racists … and supporting his pro-Islamist Kenyan cousin.
    Obama’s Cousin Covertly Supports Al Qaeda
    Foreign Confidential….
    Two weeks before the seventh anniversary of the Al Qaeda attacks of September 11, 2001–the worst attacks on American soil in the nation’s history–the Democratic Party, barring a last-minute upset, will formally pick a Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama II, whose Kenyan cousin covertly supports Al Qaeda.
    Obama Website Lies About His Muslim Roots
    About Barack Hussein Obama II, who is running for President of the United States, his official campaign Website states: “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.”

    In fact, the presumptive Democratic candidate was born a Muslim according to Islamic religious law, and studied and practiced Islam as a child in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country.
    Melanie Phillips reports in The Spectator ( )that Obama “has gone out of his way to support in Kenya Raila Odinga, head of the Luo tribe, who promised to introduce sharia law if elected. Obama interrupted his New Hampshire campaign to speak by phone with Odinga. As the Investor’s Business Daily has reported, his half-brother Abongo “Roy” Obama is a Luo activist in Kenya and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must ‘liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture’ and urges Barack to embrace his African Muslim heritage.”

    Phillips notes that Obama’s “mentor, the black power-supporting Christian pastor Jeremiah Wright, is a close associate of Louis Farrakhan, the demagogue leader of the black power, Jew-hating militant organisation Nation of Islam. A number of Obama’s own staffers have been members of the Nation of Islam.”
    Obama Fundraiser Son of Qaeda Terrorist
    To paraphrase Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, the Obama phenomenon seems to grow more menacing by the minute.

    Turns out, an Obama fundraiser is the son of an Al Qaeda terrorist. Debbie Schlussel broke the story.
    June 12, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Who is Mohammed Al-Churbaji?: Key Al-Qaeda Terrorist “Abu Salim’s”
    Son is Barack Obama Fundraiser; Islamic Terrorist “Mr. Mom”
    Are There Two Obama Birth Certificates?
    HillBuzz weighs in on the Obama birth certificate controversy–the candidate’s refusal to release a copy to clear up doubts about his place of birth:
    In Kenya, where Obama’s father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenya’s government. This is a custom in Kenya, when a baby is born to a Kenyan citizen overseas: that birth is recorded in Kenya in addition to the United States, or wherever. The blogs have been buzzing with the fact that GOP operatives have been to Kenya researching Obama’s past, and Obama’s father and other family in Kenya, and it appears they have obtained a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.

    The reason this is interesting is something no one has caught yet.

    In some foreign countries, a baby’s religion is written on the birth certificate, particularly in countries with multiple religions. If Kenya is a country that requires this note on a birth certificate, and if Obama’s father had “Muslim” written on his birth certificate, then Obama has a lot of explaining to do.

    The existence of a Kenyan birth certificate could account for this headline in USAfrficaOnline:
    Regarding religion, Obama was born a Muslim in accord with Islamic religious law, which Obama’s Kenyan cousin, the current Prime Minister and opposition leader, Raila Odinga, wants to impose on Kenya. Obama practiced and studied Islam as a child–incredibly, his American mother married two Muslim men. He identifies himself as a Christian, having belonged for over 20 years to a Black Liberation church in Chicago (which supports Hamas and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan). However, it is not known if Obama ever formally converted to Christianity.

    To read more about The Mysterious Mr. Obama, scroll for the story under that headline.

  30. this is funny…

    Gore’s endorsement of Obama
    What’s he gonna do, not endorse him? If that were the case, then this would be a story. Otherwise, it’s a big waste of trees and pixels. Much like Fred Thompson endorsing John McCain. Well, there’s a real shocker, worth about, oh, maybe a sentence, maybe.

    You know, there’s a reason blogs like BusyMom get 10 times the traffic of political stories and blog posts. The “mommy blogs” deal in reality.

    Geez. The endorsement even made network news. What does NBC think? That its 1970 and it still controls the message? Hello!

    UPDATE: SayUncle: So, Al Gore waited until there was only one left and endorsed him. I mean, who could have possibly predicted that a Democrat would endorse another Democrat?

  31. Oh yeah!

    Gore will work his ass off to deliver TN and FL for Bambi….two states even he could not win!

    I believe in climate change and some things we should do for it….McCain also believes this and we are in sink…

    Mr. Gore.. you have a friend in McCain for this issue…if you know what you really want to do!

    BTW: I unsubscribed from Gore…I do not need him to tell me about climate change. And for the first time, I want to see some offshore drilling done in the US!!!! oh yes it is time!

  32. Why are people like sheep, when it comes to political parties? I’ve always voted for the democrat, but this time, I am looking at the person, and BO frightens me. Why doesn’t he frighten more people?

  33. I’ve always voted for the democrat, but this time, I am looking at the person, and BO frightens me. Why doesn’t he frighten more people?

    Please open your Bibles to Revelations 13. 😉

  34. mp,

    i applaud your courage, even a liberal wants to drill when shit hits the fan.

    LOL. I am just kidding. have a nice day.

  35. birdgal ,

    we do not know how the mass, the sheep will vote in Nov just YET.
    George was scary enough for many ‘sane’ people, but that does not prevent him from winning twice. Well, maybe when the Roman starts to burn, the sheep will wake up? I’m wondering whether that will be too late.


  36. A friend showed me a printed copy of BO’ sHawaiin Birth certificate posted by Headkook!

    There is no signature or name of a registrar!

    I cannot believe that could be possible!

    I reviwed many of my papers and even as far as I see, in 1997 in the US, my papers have a registar name and signature!

  37. Well, maybe when the Roman starts to burn…

    Would this be Roman Polanski, or just any old roman? 😉

  38. I found some right wing site’s mockery is quite amusing… No wonder dems keep on losing, many of our candidates have no humor whatsoever… More fun to share with all of you on Coward Dean’s blunder…
    Democrats Face Budget Shortfall For Convention
    Facing an $11.6 million budget shortfall, organizers of the Democratic National Convention are cutting events …

    The convention’s Denver host committee reported it has deposited $29 million of the $40.6 million it promised to the Democratic National Committee by a Monday deadline. The overall convention budget is about $70 million.
    Or expropriate those 401Ks…

    Mayby Chris Dodd can help get a loan from Countrywide?

    I think states 51 to 57 are not contributing their share… Maybe Obama needs to visit them again?

    At least they can count on the City of Denver to cover security and damage costs for the riots….

    I’m worried about the huge carbon footprint this convention will leave. I think they should cancel it to address the concerns of the Global Warming Hoax.

    Not if Rezko is still too tied up in courts to channel money from the ME…

    What? George Soros and the Chinese can’t help them again?

  39. kosnter:

    Welcome back….! Me a liberal!!!! Well I do not drinnk lattes!!! 🙂 🙂

    PS: You once thought I was on the “Other” side!!!!! That was so funny about your rantings on MyDUDD!

  40. It all happened arounnd aug-sep 2007……unless of course you/were using the name kostner!!!!

    But never mind…I have not been on those sites for over 7 months!

  41. jbstonesfan,

    june polls mean nothing. dems always do better earlier on. obama can’t close the deal.

    This is funny from freeper site regarding abcnews poll…
    called ABC and spoke to a very nice lady, she told me among Most Likely To Vote McCain leads Obama 48 – 47, but that is within the margin of error so it’s essentially a dead heat. Very bad news for Obama, the DNC, the MSM, Moveon, DU, Huffingtonpost, etc…

    Obama could very well win in a landslide among those unlikely to vote.
    A few free concerts on election day and the unlikely to vote group grows higher.

  42. And I just read the Detroit crowd booed when the Gov mentioned Hillary…that’s how they want to unite us??? I still feel like this is a bad nightmare and I can’t wake up. Please Hillary, do not allow this man to steal the election.

  43. jbstonesfan,

    It’s the fact that Obama has not told his supporters how rude and disrespectful it is to be attacking Hillary in the way they have that makes me sick. It’s as if he has condoned this attitude all along.

  44. jan: exactly. he has encouraged this disrespect and sexism, throughout the entire campaign. if he is elected, it will only get worse. he has never, ever, tried to discourage it. his arrogance and narcissism are breathtakingly, frightening.

  45. bambi is launching his ageism warfare against Mccain… Nice way to lose all voters above 50.

    In a campaign year marked by flare-ups surrounding comments that have offended one group or another, John McCain and Barack Obama have moved on to the next sensitive battleground: the question of McCain’s advanced age.

    As some Republicans see it, Democrats are deliberately talking in code about the presumptive 71-year-old GOP nominee as part of an attempt to highlight his age.

    “It is code; there is no question it is,” Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist who helped lead President Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign, said when age surfaced as an issue. “They are trying to raise doubts.”

    MSNBC host Joe Scarborough repeatedly argued on his show last week that the Obama campaign was portraying McCain as a “doddering, old, confused fool. He needs to go to Miami Beach and play checkers.”

    To Democrats, however, Republicans are imagining slights and smears where there are none as part of an attempt to silence any discussion of McCain’s vigor.

    “They are definitely trying to just put a lid on the kind of language we use,” said Democratic consultant Jonathan Prince.

    Obama aides deny any strategy to highlight age, and Obama, 46, himself told reporters last month that age should not be a factor. Indeed, he used to compliment McCain’s “half-century of service” to the country as a Vietnam War veteran and a member of Congress, but after McCain campaign manager Rick Davis argued that it was a sly way to inject age into the debate, Obama dropped the reference in February.

    But a Democratic strategist not involved in the campaign, who requested anonymity to speak candidly, said he sees footprints of a deliberate Obama campaign strategy.

    “They have made allusions to McCain’s age and temperament because, with McCain, both his age and his volatile temper are legitimate issues. There is a line of appropriateness that they cannot cross. And I don’t think they have,” the strategist said.

    Certainly there have been times when Democrats have tackled the issue head-on, as Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) has several times in recent months.

    “The older you get, the more difficult it is to have the energy to confront these things,” Murtha, who turns 76 on Tuesday, said in an interview with ThinkProgress, a liberal blog. “I know myself. I have to pace myself. I’m the same age he is. He said I was senile a couple of years ago. Well, that’s beside the point, whether I’m senile. But I just believe that his age is going to be very difficult for him to become a good commander in chief, because the decisions are so difficult.”

    The issue is no small matter for McCain. Polls in recent months found voters more likely to take into consideration his age than Obama’s race, which explains why the McCain campaign has turned into ersatz word police, calling foul on even the slightest hint of a reference to the Republican’s age.

    McCain senior adviser Mark Salter rebuked Obama last month for saying that the Arizonan was “losing his bearings.” Obama, who was defending against charges that Hamas wanted him to win in November, protested that the phrase has nothing to do with age.

    But when Obama foreign policy adviser Susan Rice and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) each described McCain as “confused” last week, Republicans became convinced that Democrats intend to run a crypto-ageist strategy, using words that create a subtle impression in voters’ minds.

    McCain himself did little to wave reporters off the narrative.

    “I’m obviously disappointed in a comment like that,” McCain said when asked about Kerry’s statement that the Republican “confuses” facts about Iran, Al Qaeda, and Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

  46. I see someone posted the poll problems for Kerry in Massachusetts above, but here’s some more interesting stuff from last week’s Suffolk Poll:

    Those who voted for Clinton in the MA primary were asked about voting for Obama in November:

    54% YES
    20% NO

    Here’s the John “Do Nothing Gigolo” Kerry question. “Should John Kerry be re-elected, or is it time to give someone else a chance?”


    Here’s the Deval “MiniMe” Patric question.

    “Does Deval Patrick deserve a second term, or is it time to give someone else a chance?”


  47. What is Hillary planning on doing at this point? She seemingly will not get the VP spot if the report about Solis-Doyle(her and Penn ran the worst campaign since Donna Brazile cost Gore the election ) is true. Is she prepared to support him without any guarantee of a significant cabinet/Supreme Ct position?

  48. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
    How in the hell is BO slightly ahead in PA and Ohio??? McCain better get his ass in gear!

    I am from Ohio where did you hear this? No way is he ahead here

  49. The thing that still bothers me is that when President Clinton spoke to us in Boca, he predicted Hillary would win Ohio, Tx, and then win PA big. He then felt she would get the nomination. WTF went wrong??? I still don’t understand how she (we) were steam rolled out of this b/c we lost NC which we never had a shot at???

  50. Idunn, people seemed shocked that Obama and his surrogates would mock McCain for his age. Its all in Revelations! Older people will be led to the guillotine first!

  51. jbstonesfan, Bill was correct she should have won the nomination, noone would have expected the idiots at the DNC would throw the election to Bambi the weakest candidate. Bill was assuming the idiot DNC wanted to win!

  52. jbstonesfan:

    Bill clinton was saying his beleifs based on basic, sensible fundamentals…..logic of the SDs.

    well the SDs have proven to be a disaster!!!!

  53. And to top it off, he is so arrogant, along with his team, they really don’t think they need the Clinton’s help to win. I assume Bill and Hillary are relaxing as they went through so much and traveled virtually to every county in America. I really wonder what they will do once resurface? I know they will have to “endorse” BO, but it just doesn’t seem like they would go down without a last stand..the party not only discarded them, but has tried to wipe away the Clinton yrs as if they were somehow bad? All I know is that the 90’s were the best times in my 45 yrs..

  54. She’ll still get the nomination, jbstonesfan. Just watch. Once it becomes clear that Obama can’t seal the deal again, vs McCain, and his poll numbers continue to flatline/dip, the SDs will want to switch starting quarterbacks. And even if that doesn’t happen, Obama will lose in the fall (he has already admitted he won’t win OH and FL, which is the death knell), and Hillary will be perfectly-positioned for a 2012 run.

  55. Talk about audacity — from SF Chronicle:

    Obama stoked lasting Democratic anger over the 2000 outcome when he recognized Gore as “the winner of the popular vote for president.”

    “You remember that,” Obama said as the crowd of 20,000 erupted in raucous applause.


    Obama Crowd Boos Clinton

    Last night at an Obama rally in Detroit, Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, who had previously endorsed Senator Clinton, took to the stage to show her solidarity with Barack Obama now that the voters (or the party insiders as the case may be) have handed him the nomination. But Granholm, like Team McCain, still seems to hold Senator Clinton in high esteem–she tried to praise the former first lady as a “great American.”

    She couldn’t even get the words out before the crowd turned on her and began booing. Here’s the tape, watch it for yourself. We just want to assure Senator Clinton’s supporters that their attendance at McCain rallies will be warmly recieved, by Senator McCain and his supporters. Of course, if Senator Clinton wants to show up to any of our events in person…consider this an open invitation

  57. BerkeleyVox, that comment made me sick to my stomach. BO recognizing that Gore won the popular vote. The freaking idiot and supportors do not recognize that Hillary has also won the popular vote. She should be the one campaigning right now and not the fraud!

  58. CNN’s Campbell Brown Giddy Over Al Gore, Pushes Him for VP
    By Brent Baker | June 17, 2008 – 10:13 ET

    Campbell Brown, filling in for Anderson Cooper, led CNN’s 10 PM EDT hour Monday evening by letting viewers in on her excitement over Al Gore’s endorsement of Barack Obama earlier in the evening: “Tonight, everybody, he blew the roof off the joint. Al Gore, one of the last big-name Democrats, getting behind Barack Obama in a big way, making a speech that could have won him the White House if he’d been making this kind of speech eight years ago.” In highlights of the speech CNN soon aired, Gore charged: “After eight years in which our Constitution has been dishonored and disrespected, we need change!”

    Turning to a panel of CNN’s Candy Crowley and Gloria Borger as well as David Gergen, Brown, who jumped to CNN from NBC last year, yearned: “Do you think there is any chance that we might see an Obama-Gore ticket?” Not dampened by doubts he would want the VP slot, Brown pressed Gergen on another role for Gore and then conceded she sounded like “I want it just too badly.” The exchange:

  59. Campbell Brown might as well just fellate Barack Obama on the air, along with the rest of those so-called impartial journalists. What a joke CNN has become…

  60. Does Obama have two birth certificates

    Are There Two Obama Birth Certificates?
    HillBuzz weighs in on the Obama birth certificate controversy–the candidate’s refusal to release a copy to clear up doubts about his place of birth:
    In Kenya, where Obama’s father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenya’s government. This is a custom in Kenya, when a baby is born to a Kenyan citizen overseas: that birth is recorded in Kenya in addition to the United States, or wherever. The blogs have been buzzing with the fact that GOP operatives have been to Kenya researching Obama’s past, and Obama’s father and other family in Kenya, and it appears they have obtained a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
    The reason this is interesting is something no one has caught yet.
    In some foreign countries, a baby’s religion is written on the birth certificate, particularly in countries with multiple religions. If Kenya is a country that requires this note on a birth certificate, and if Obama’s father had “Muslim” written on his birth certificate, then Obama has a lot of explaining to do.
    The existence of a Kenyan birth certificate could account for this headline in USAfrficaOnline:

  61. CB is an idiot. Gore would never accept VP again. He has other fish to fry.

    I am so glad, that I don’t watch any cable news anymore.

  62. Can Al Gore run as a VP again?? Isn’t there term limits on the VP as well?? Does he want his legacy to be a perpetual VP that never quiet attains the top spot. How stupid are these newscasters??

  63. Here it comes…. 😀

    McCain Advisers Slam Obama for ‘Sept. 10 Mindset’

    By Anne E. Kornblut
    TAYLOR, Mich. — Advisers to Sen. John McCain on Tuesday blasted Sen. Barack Obama as “naïve” and “delusional” in his approach to terrorism in one of the harshest exchanges over national security in the fledgling general election fight.

    The attacks were so severe that one McCain adviser, Randy Scheunemann, predicted it would be described by the Obama campaign as the “politics of fear” — the model perfected by President Bush.

    “He’s advocating a policy of delusion,” Scheunemann said of Obama. Former CIA director James Woolsey, who was also on the campaign call with reporters, said Obama’s attitude “ignores that we are in a war against terrorism.”

    The battle was sparked by remarks Obama made during an interview with ABC News on Monday in which he said that the handling of the previous perpetrators of terrorism, after the first attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993, were rightly arrested, put on trial and sent to prison.

    “They are currently in US prisons, incapacitated,” Obama had said. “And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’ So that, I think, is an example of something that was unnecessary. We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws.”

    Obama has applauded a Supreme Court decision last week to grant detainees rights to seek habeas corpus hearings. McCain vehemently disagreed with the decision, saying he favored the dissent written by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts instead. His advisers described the approach to handling terrorists in the 1990s as a “miserable failure” that resulted in attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 that could have been prevented if the 1993 World Trade Center detainees had not gone through the regular US courts. Woolsey suggested that the sealed court records contributed to the CIA’s inability to foresee the later attacks. Scheunemann, in even fiercer language, described Obama as having the “perfect manifestation of a Sept. 10 mindset,” saying his latest statements about putting terrorists through the criminal justice system is “just his latest statement” along those lines.

    “He does not understand the nature of the enemy as we face it,” he said. Woolsey said it was “an extremely dangerous” approach to terrorism.

  64. Obama is not going to ask Hillary to be his VP. He is going to come up with every reason why she wouldn’t be an option. He is going to have his lemmings destroy her reputation but keep his hands clean.

  65. “No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex.” 1872 Susan B. Anthony, Suffragette.

  66. The Obamanics believe Hillary has too much baggage to be with him on the ticket. Obama has an airplane hanger full of baggage. His baggage is alot scarier than hers!

  67. birdgal,

    I agree. I just don’t think Obama and his “friends” will be happy until they have stomped on her completely.

  68. confloyd: BO has an aircraft carrier full of baggage. Like I’ve said, whenever the BO campaign says anything, I just reflect it, back to them. They need to look in the mirror. What a corrupt campaign. Just sickening.

  69. I wish she would come out and say she doe not want the VP position. This would end it. The longer she stays silent they will keep on stomping her. This would end the talk.

  70. I think she is under direct orders from the higher ups, you know the people own the world. The Bilderburg’s. She is doing what they tell her to do!

  71. Folks, somehow we are going to have to take back this country! I believe Hillary is the one that can help us and that’s the reason she is not the nominee. There is something happening and she knows it, hence the tears in NewHampshire! She knows it and is powerless to do anything about it. These groups like us,pumapac and hcsfjm is something this group had not imagined would happen. I think that’s why they have told Hillary and Bill to be quiet so Bambi could rally the masses for them. It is not happening, I am sure they are worried about it>

  72. It’s a game chicken…she wants to be offered it but turn it down, he wants to not offer it, unless he needs the votes….they are already talking about winning without Fl and Ohio..they hate her and will seek every reason to discredit her. Like the dead Tim Russert, the MSM will tell us all how she will galvanize the right and hurt the ticket.

  73. I would like to know how the most hated woman is America was able to get 18 million votes?? Could all this hoopla about baggage and high negatives be a manufactured piece of news by the media and the republicans??

  74. the DNC, Pelosi, Brazile, Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, etc…it took her own party to bring her down…..

  75. neetabug,

    I kind of disagree. As Hill’s fervent supporters, we all feel disgusted and extremely painful when an accomplished, smart, tough politician such as Hillary has to endure the arrogant, idiotic bambi fest.

    But Hillary is a grown-up, and I really doubt she pays much attention to these daily insult. She’s doing what a mature, responsible politician is supposed to do. She will be the one who will have the final smile, whether it’s Aug, Nov, or probably longer.

    It’s a test of resolve, and the truth and the only truth is on our side.

  76. does anybody know why Al/Edwards/Kerry always attracted so much mockery, ridicule from the right wing site?

    I’m reading those comments and can’t help laughing …

  77. Reaction to Gore’s Endorsement of Obama: Underwhelming

    Reactions on yesterday’s endorsement of Barack Obama by Al Gore was underwhelming. They ranged from “Yawn” to “timid” to complaints of Gore’s “lousy timing”.

    Perhaps one day someone will write a chapter about Al Gore in a new book titled “Profiles In Uncourage.”
    Democratic presumptive Presidential nominee Barack Obama finally got what he and former rival Senator Hillary Clinton had pined for all these months — THE endorsement from former Vice President Al Gore.

    But it came so late in the game that the person who’ll be most impressed with it will be Tipper Gore. –Joe Gandelman, The Moderate Voice: Obama Gets “The” Endorsement: The Lousy Timing of Al Gore

    Al Gore unquestionably has taken to heart his role as an elder statesman — he stayed so far above the fray of the Democratic presidential race that the fray was fast becoming an afterthought when he finally bestowed his imprimatur on Barack Obama today. –Don Frederick, LA Times Blogs: Al Gore Wraps His Arms Around Barack Obama
    Much the same reactions were, seemingly, everywhere on the Net.

  78. Freepers reaction to Al endorsement, fun version!

    Algore should loose a bunch of weight, that would help global warming

    If he get’s Larry Sinclair’s endorsement, well then that would be news.

    He should give up flying in his private jet. And to think an endangered species was served at his daughter Sarah Lee’s wedding.
    Unlike MSM, I thought his speech failed to impress me. His endorsement of Obama at this point made not much difference but would have been big news earlier. Perhaps he feared to upset Hillary.

    I can see by Gore’s fat face that his carbon footprint sure isn’t getting any smaller. I wonder if he is aware that one of Obama’s first acts as President will be to ensure that we can’t eat as much as we want (lest we upset the “other countries”).

    Who was NOT voting for Obama that now IS due to Gore’s endorsement? I can’t think of any single group or voter type.

    No, Al’s sequestering carbon to prevent global warming.

  79. Al Gore did what was safe, by endorsing Obama now, he saved face by not picking between Hillary and Obama.
    This is exactly what the Republicans find so funny. He has no backbone. He is the ultimate safe politician. That is why the republicans are afraid of Hillary, she has guts, stamina and now after this primary she will be unstoppable in 2012. That is why they are still demonizing her. We all knew who the real candidate was, but the media wanted us to nominate the weak one against McCain. The idiots at the DNC could not even see it! They are indeed stupid!!

  80. Actually I appreciated Gore for waiting..I thought of all the disloyal Clinton haters, he would have endorsed BO a while ago. I wonder if President Clinton will be watching the Super Bowl with Richardson next year?

  81. Kostner, you are too funny! 🙂 I am a bit overweight and I’ll be damned if that skinney little whimp from Illinois is going to tell me what I can and can’t eat. I do think we should tell some of the fat folks backing Obama that they are going to have to go on the National American Diet, courtesy of Bambi!!!

  82. Anyone wants to talk about same sex marriges .???

    who agrees and who does not agree —we can agree to disagree and still be felow hill-supporters .

  83. I never thought of same sex marriges ,i respect everyone but i still have hard time understanding thier relationships,and i am kinda only 50/50 with the right of same sex marrige but that could be b/c i never knew something like that existed .

    I understand love but between same sex people -huh -i guess?

  84. Does Obama still give speeches using terms like “hoodwinked” or “Okie-Doky”? Just wondering?

    As for Gay marriage, live and let live….

  85. I am in CA -where they allow same sex marriage and for me the rule is whatever makes one happy -just do it and be happy –

    But you think -kids are better off with mom /dad or dad/dad or mom /mom .

  86. Each family is unique…a child with a dysfunctional nuclear family may well be better served by a gay parental upbringing.

  87. confloyd,

    sorry if those comments insulted anybody. It’s just a bunch of crap from freeper land’s twisted mind. I think they’re funny though even some of their harsh comments/cartoons are left for Hillary. LOL.

    Same sex marriage? Who cares! I always believe the progress of society will take care of it. It’s a losing battle for right wingnuts, even tehy don’t seem to have much energy in this now.

  88. My nieghbor is a muslim guy and he curses anybody who is gay -He thinks -they all will go to hell -i wish i cpuld tell him to go to hell himself .

  89. Per ‘Red State’, Coward Dean’s Denver nightmare continues….

    Or so we keep getting told.

    Here’s some of the background: the short version is that the host committee for this thing is on the hook (as in, within a week) for any shortfalls from expenditures. The article indicates that the city’s not liable under the contract, although the quoted Wyeth below doesn’t seem to be quite hearing that. This has all the signs of being a truly epic-level spat:

    “The responsibilities of the host committee, as detailed in the master contract, are all important to ensuring the success of the convention,” DNCC spokeswoman Natalie Wyeth said in a statement. “The host committee and the city committed to meeting these requirements, and we fully expect that they will do so.”

    The contract specifies that the city of Denver isn’t responsible for financing the convention, and Hickenlooper spokeswoman Sue Cobb reiterated Monday the mayor’s promise that no city money would be used to finance the convention.


    Wyeth declined to comment on whether there would be any consequences if the city did not provide for a line of credit, adding that the contract speaks for itself.

    Still, easily fixed, right? You can’t have a chintzy, strapped-for-cash convention. God knows the DNC can’t pony up, so you go to the nominee…

    With less than 70 days to the convention, host-committee officials say they are reaching out to the campaign of Barack Obama, the Democrat’s presumptive nominee and a proven fundraising powerhouse, to help fill the difference. Host-committee officials have blamed the long primary season for the slow pace of fundraising.

    Officials at Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago declined to comment.

    …and that’s where you insert the “needle skips on the record” sound effect. This should be a no-brainer: the Democrats are in Denver because it’s in Colorado, and they’d like to win Colorado, and one prerequisite to winning Colorado is not ticking off the state by throwing a party and stiffing Colorado with the tab. The DNC doesn’t have the money, the DCCC and the DSCC need all their money (because they sure aren’t getting anything from the DNC this go-round), and if the private donors were going to make up the difference on their own they would have done so by now. It’s you or nobody, Senator Obama – and you’re supposed to be the man with the cash, on the verge of having your best month yet.

    So why no commitment, or even comment?

  90. More ‘drilling’ pressure on bambi & pelosi Co…

    TALLAHASSEE – Gov. Charlie Crist has dropped his long-standing support for the federal moratorium on offshore drilling.

    Crist on Tuesday endorsed Sen. John McCain’s proposal to instead let each state decide whether to drill for oil and natural gas in waters off its shores.

    Crist has been mentioned as a possible running mate for McCain, the likely Republican presidential nominee. The governor says the nation needs to look at all options in response to rising fuel prices.

    Most Florida politicians have opposed drilling because they’ve been afraid it might damage the state’s beaches that are vital to its tourism-dependent economy.

  91. Obama is using Solis -Doyle to gain Latino favor and learn Hillary’s weaknesses imo…..she is another disloyal member of team Clinton which truthfully, both Bill and Hillary really underestimated….

  92. Democrat Barack Obama Tuesday accused White House rival John McCain of “posturing” as the Republican, tapping voters’ anxiety about sky-high fuel prices, called for offshore oil drilling.

    In a speech later in the Texas oil capital of Houston, the Arizona senator was to call for a 27-year-old moratorium on offshore exploration to be lifted — reversing his own support for the ban when he ran for president in 2000.

    McCain was again to push for a summer suspension of federal taxes on gasoline, to ease a little of the pain at the pump for voters already reeling from an epidemic of home foreclosures and job losses.

    Obama, who has been hammering McCain and the Republicans on the economy, said his White House opponent’s support of the moratorium in 2000 was “certainly laudable.”

  93. Per ‘No quarter’.

    Another Delegate Defects (+ Bartoshevich Update)
    By now everyone has heard about Debra Bartoshevich, a Clinton delegate in Wisconsin who will likely be stripped of her status by state Democratic leaders and replaced with a more loyal party player because she had the audacity to tell a local reporter that she planned to vote for John McCain in November. You can read about her story in this post from last week. In a new article Monday, Bartoshevich is defiant:

    “Understandably, there are people that are upset with me,” Bartoshevich said. “I had thought that Hillary was the better candidate, but everybody’s entitled to their own opinion.”

    Bartoshevich said she continues to support Clinton, who she will vote for at the convention.

    “I’m very dedicated to her,” she said. “I support my candidate that I was selected to be a delegate for.”

    “Everybody has the right to change their mind. Everybody has the right to express how they feel,” Bartoshevich said. “This is why we live in America, this is what we call democracy.”

    Then there is Sacha Millstone from Colorado, who seemingly slipped under the radar. Millstone is also a pledged delegate for Clinton, and she told The Denver Post back on June 8 that she would vote for Clinton at the convention, then quit the party.

    “This isn’t sour grapes. This is about the best candidate losing the nomination because she’s a woman. It’s the most blatant example of sexism in our society. This is about the party breaking my trust, women’s trust. And that can’t be fixed,” she says.


    Millstone blames Barack Obama and party leaders for not rallying to Clinton’s defense. And she slams them for trying to nudge the former first lady out of the race:

    “That never would have happened if she were a man.”

    Is anyone else wondering how many other PISSED OFF Clinton delegates there are across the country who plan to cast their historic votes for Hillary in Denver only to promptly abandon the party? Are state party authorities going to follow Mr. Wineke’s lead in Wisconsin and purge recalcitrant delegates from the convention rolls, thereby spitting on the most fundamental right in a democracy — the right to a private vote? (Keep in mind that these delegates plan to fulfill their pledges at the convention; who they support after the convention, or who they vote for in November, is No One’s FB!)

    Putting aside for a moment the legality of stripping a delegate for post-convention mutiny — I am interested in the answer to a different question: Will the Democratic party (or their state-level counterparts) contact ALL pledged delegates, including those committed to Barack Obama, to confirm that they ALL agree unconditionally to vote for the OTHER candidate should that person win the nomination?

  94. Here’s what I heard on other board regarding ‘drill’…

    This one is a winner on several levels. by spainishirish
    First, this is where the American people are. As you point out, Dunkin’ Donuts Democrats have broken ranks with the Starbucks Left and agree with Republicans here. As a personal anecdote, I was at a non-political function last week attended by mostly moderate Democrats. A Democratic candidate in our state’s upcoming Democratic primary was there and tried to duck the domestic production issue. He was hammered.

    Also, Obama eventually will be forced either to choose between domestic production and environmental extremists. My guess is he goes with the latter. This will signal to Dunkin’ Donuts Democrats that his little social experiment will be conducted on their backs and through their bank accounts.

    Sen. McCain would be well-advised to rethink ANWR as well. The public is in no mood for poor policy choices made to appease extremists.

    McCain can win this thing, but damned if it doesn’t take a lot of 2X4’s.

  95. Courageous woman….too bad not enough men could macho up and vote for Hillary. As a man, I have never been more ashamed that we men allowed a guy with not enough experience to be a local party leader, become possibly the next POTUS.

  96. Barack Hussein Obama as the nominee is more frightening than any terrorist that I can think of.He will destroy this country and all the progress that we have made in this troubled world and its numerous problems still to be solved. Just look at the headlines every day,all the unrest and hatred he is spreading through out our country.Is this what we want for a president? Shame America. The MSM and the cult followers of Obama and our yellow bellied politicians have destroyed and villified Hillary in favor of their personal greed and the fear of angrying OBama and his AA army.Remember the threat that he has remained quiet about. ” recreate.68 ” has spooked the DNC and enabled the RNC to sit by and watch what a silver tongued traitor can do.

    By ABM Glad I won’t be around to see the demise of our proud Democracy.

  97. The Hijacking of The Democratic Party – There is Discussion for Paul Tewes (Obama Organizer) to Take Over from Howard Dean.

    Top Obama Organizer Paul Tewes in Discussions to Run Democratic Party

    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama is quietly planning to take over the Democratic National Committee and assemble a multistate team for the general election, the latest sign that he is putting rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and the nomination fight behind him. Top Obama organizer Paul Tewes is in discussions to run the party, several Democratic officials said Tuesday.

    Obama spokesman Bill Burton said no final decisions have been made on general election plans and that such decisions would be premature with Obama yet to clinch the nomination.

    Tewes is one of the leading architects of Obama’s success in the marathon Democratic primary race. He engineered Obama’s critical victory in the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, which gave Obama the upper hand and Clinton was never able to fully overcome.

    DNC executive director Tom McMahon and DNC political director Dave Boundy traveled to Chicago last week to meet with Tewes and other campaign officials to discuss merging efforts. The party officials have held similar meetings with Clinton campaign officials and last week got an agreement with both campaigns to start raising money that will benefit the eventual nominee.

    The Obama campaign also is in discussions with staffers who will be dispatched to various swing states, but holding off on making announcements until Obama has won the nomination. Officials who spoke to The Associated Press about the discussions insisted on anonymity because the campaign wanted to keep the deliberations quiet.

    Obama needs 2,026 delegates to clinch the nomination, and he moved within 100 of that goal after contests in Kentucky and Oregon Tuesday. Clinton was more than 250 delegates back.

    The staffing decisions are a natural progression for Obama, who still is engaged in a primary campaign while Republican candidate John McCain has been free to prepare his general election team for months. Obama will have to hit the ground running to make up for lost time when, as expected, he dispatches Clinton.

    Democratic and Republican nominees traditionally install loyalists at their party committees even though it is technically headed by its chairman — in this case Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor and a presidential candidate four years ago.

    McCain has put his own team at the Republican National Committee to operate a Victory Fund Committee that is corralling top donors and plotting strategy for the general election. McCain took the steps shortly after locking up the nomination after primary wins on March 4.

    But Obama cannot afford to move too quickly toward the general election, or he will risk alienating Clinton supporters who are already emotional about the likelihood of their chosen candidate’s closely fought defeat.

    There have been other steps toward the Democratic nomination. Obama has been campaigning in general election battleground states. Fundraisers for the two campaigns have held quiet discussions on working together in the fall campaign. And Obama’s campaign reached out to former Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle about joining forces for the general election, although several other top Clinton staffers said they have not been contacted.

  98. Once again, the Obama campaign has the made the rookie mistake of getting suckered into debating McCain on his own turf. Any time the headline reads, “terrorism takes center stage…” McCain has already won the skirmish. From WaPo:

    Terrorism Takes Center Stage as Obama Responds to McCain Camp’s Charges

    Updated 3:54 p.m.
    By Alec MacGillis
    It was only a matter of time, but the McCain and Obama campaigns today engaged more directly than ever before on one of the central disagreements between them — the high stakes question of how to pursue Islamic terrorists.

    This morning, McCain advisers attacked Barack Obama’s comments in an interview yesterday with ABC News, calling them “dangerous.” Obama had pointed to the prosecutions of the extremists involved in the 1993 World Trade Center attack as proof that the U.S. legal system was capable of bringing terrorists to justice, and the McCain camp charged that this betrayed a pre-Sept. 11 complacency and belief that terrorism could be addressed using law enforcement tools alone.

    Two hours later, the Obama campaign responded that Obama’s confidence in U.S. civilian or military courts to try suspected terrorists did not mean that he believed in an exclusively law enforcement-based approach to hunting terrorists. In a conference call with reporters, Sen. John Kerry (who faced the same soft on terror charges in his 2004 presidential campaign) and former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke noted that Obama is proposing a comprehensive approach that includes military measures, including a possible invasion of Pakistani border areas if the U.S. has a solid tip on Al-Qaeda whereabouts and Pakistan refuses to act.

    In fact, Kerry — who had considered McCain as a possible vice presidential runningmate in 2004 — and Clarke noted, McCain and other Republicans had criticized Obama for that very suggestion of military action in Pakistan. And, they pointed out, Obama’s call for granting habeas corpus rights to individuals held at Guantanamo Bay was upheld by the Supreme Court last week.

    Kerry and Clarke went on to criticize McCain’s approach to fighting terrorism as ineffective and outdated. McCain’s approach, they charged, had relied too much on the military, diverted resources and attention from Al-Qaeda and aided terrorist recruitment. Meanwhile, the circumvention of the U.S. legal system in handling suspected terrorists had undermined America’s standing in the Muslim world.

    “This is really an important day in marking a real line between John McCain’s policies and Barack Obama’s,” said Kerry. “The McCain campaign has defined a road to defeat and, frankly, to more disastrous policies that haven’t worked… [McCain] has fully embraced, willfully and openly, the failed policy of the Bush administration of the past seven years. He is really defending a policy that is indefensible.”

    Kerry added: “John McCain is Washington’s biggest supporter for worst foreign policy decision of our generation. He failed to learn the lesson of 9/11 and we’re paying for that failure today… He is continuing a legal approach that has violated our Constitution, failed to prosecute terrorist, failed to bring them to justice, failed to have verdicts, failed to bring them to jail, and failed to lead the world. If you want to talk about going backwards… John McCain has done that.”

    In the McCain campaign’s attack this morning, 9-11 Commission member John Lehmann argued that the 1993 trial impeded intelligence gathering by placing under seal some findings about the suspects that then-CIA director George Tenet later said would have been helpful in pursuing Al Qaeda before Sept. 11. Tenet “personally told me he did not get to see the evidence that would have linked some of the perpetrators to Khalid Sheik Mohammed,” the mastermind of 9-11, Lehman said. “Dots would have been connected well before.”

    While not endorsing that dramatic claim, which goes beyond the findings of the 9-11 Commission’s report, Clarke conceded that there “clearly was a mistake at some level” in the decision to seal evidence collected in the trial.”

    But, Clarke continued, future trials of terrorism suspects could easily correct for that by making certain evidence available for intelligence use. He rejected another McCain claim, that bringing terrorists captured abroad into military or civilian courts would complicate matters by requiring adherence to rules for collecting evidence and maintaining a chain of custody. “Playing by the rules can be done and has been done,” Clarke said.

    Notably, Clarke did appear at one point to back up a key Republican talking point, that Iraq is now the key front on terrorism. Democrats have tried to argue in recent years that many of those battling and killing Americans in Iraq are homegrown insurgents, not Al-Qaeda warriors. But Clarke said that Al-Qaeda had not attacked on American soil since Sept. 11 because it had instead decided that it was easier to attack America in Iraq: “They’ve killed 4,000 and wounded 25,000,” he said, contradicting the Democratic case that many if not most casualties have been inflicted by non-Al-Qaeda Iraqis.

    But Clarke was fully on message with his charge that McCain’s attack today was a “Karl Rove strategy” and “straight out of the Republican playbook.”

    “I’m frankly a little disgusted by some of the attacks of some of my friends on the McCain campaign to use the same old tired tactics of the past several campaigns, trying to paint one party as weak on terrorism and completely distorting the record of pone party, to drive a wedge for partisan advantage and to frighten Americans,” he said.

  99. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    Actually I appreciated Gore for waiting..I thought of all the disloyal Clinton haters, he would have endorsed BO a while ago. I wonder if President Clinton will be watching the Super Bowl with Richardson next year?

    If he does he better watch what he eats and drinks.

    That friendship is lost forever. Richardson will always be known as Judas

  100. Per blog for mccain:

    Obama Says “Uhh” 144 Times in Eleven Minutes during Press Conference – Video Link 6/16/08

    Barack Obama, the golden-tongued orator, is a totally different person when he cannot read a speech someone wrote for him from a teleprompter. Hot posted a link to a CNN video of Obama making a statement and answering questions. A sharp Hot commenter posted the following about the video:

    I watched the whole 11:09. I don’t remember a thing he said. All I heard was uh, uh, uh, uh, and uh.

    He talks for 4 minutes. I counted 55 uhs.
    Then he takes questions.

    First answer: 10 uhs
    Second answer: 27 uhs
    Third answer: 16 uhs
    Fourth answer: 7 uhs
    Final answer: 29 uhs

    144 uhs in 11 minutes. Articulate, Uh-bama!

    Follow the link and you will see it is absolutely painful to listen to. The truth is, Obama is a total lightweight that is an empty suit. He does great in the stadium pep rally speech setting, but get him away from that where he must think on his feet, and the Obamamessiah just disappears. If John McCain said “uhh” 144 times in 11 minutes, the press corps would be saying he has Alzheimer’s disease. But with Obama, nary a word about it. In time, Obama the lighweight, is going to reveal himself for all the world to see. We just have to hope it is BEFORE November 4 so the American people will not make a truly terrible mistake.

    P.S. Obama referred to “President Maliki” of Iraq, when he is the “Prime Minister” of Iraq (5:40 mark of the video). Again, if John McCain did that it would be a week of stories about his “age.”

  101. “No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex.” 1872 Susan B. Anthony, Suffragette.

    * * * * * *
    Amen! Thanks, Birdgal! Words to live by…

    * * * * * *
    A short story

    Scene: Denver, Democratic National Convention.
    Action: After lengthy and boring speeches by the party chair Howard Dean, John Kerry, and Al Gore (notice a pattern here?), Barack Hussein Obama’s and Hillary Rodham Clinton’s names are placed into nomination for President of the United States.

    The roll call begins. Alabama…. Alaska…. Arizona…. Arkansas…. California…. suddenly, all the delegates elected to vote for Hillary rose from their seats and filed deliberately to the nearest exits. At the podium, Chairman Dean gaveled the convention into recess…. they no longer met the DNC’s own requirements for a quorum. Tune in tomorrow to see what happens next….
    The roll call continued… New Mexico…. New York… North Carolina….. what’s this? Many of the delegate allocations were unexpected; Olberman, Blizter and others murmered a collective expression of astonishment, as they rummaged through reams of paper containing well-researched delegate totals. Did some super delegates change their votes? What will the outcome be? West Virginia… Wisconsin…..

    * * * * * *
    Stay tuned…. and feel free to add to the story line…. and correct the details. I don’t think I have ever actually watched a convention gavel-to-gavel.

    * * * * * *
    I hope it’s as beautiful where you are as it is in Chicago today. Today’s blue sky almost makes you forget the cesspool of corruption down the street. Better sign up for “Chicagoans Against Obama” while I think of it.

  102. McCain’s Blog Extends Open Invitation to Hillary Clinton After she is Booed at Obama Rally

    John McCain’s Blog has extended an open invitation to Hillary Clinton and her supporters that would like to attend a McCain rally.

    Michael Goldfard posted the invitation Tuesday on The McCain Report which is McCain’s official Blog

    Here is the text and video:

    Obama Crowd Boos Clinton

    Last night at an Obama rally in Detroit, Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, who had previously endorsed Senator Clinton, took to the stage to show her solidarity with Barack Obama now that the voters (or the party insiders as the case may be) have handed him the nomination. But Granholm, like Team McCain, still seems to hold Senator Clinton in high esteem–she tried to praise the former first lady as a “great American.”

    She couldn’t even get the words out before the crowd turned on her and began booing. Here’s the tape, watch it for yourself. We just want to assure Senator Clinton’s supporters that their attendance at McCain rallies will be warmly recieved, by Senator McCain and his supporters. Of course, if Senator Clinton wants to show up to any of our events in person…consider this an open invitation.

  103. Even CNN readers support McCain on this by Finrod
    CNN’s quickpoll, which is usually slanted in favor of liberal positions, is agreeing with McCain that the offshore drilling ban should be ended, 62-38.

  104. Under Obama, Total Taxes on Labor Could Reach 60 Percent?

    A couple of days ago, I added the numbers on Obama’s tax proposals in a back-of-the-envelope manner and concluded “we’re really looking at a top tax rate of 53.45 percent to 54.9 percent for top earners.” (A few accountants wrote in and said the complications of the tax code make it tough to make a precise percentage like that.)

    Guys much smarter than me at the Tax Policy Center (via Instapundit, via Kaus) have come to a similar conclusion:

    Combine [Obama’s Social Security tax proposal] with a top income tax rate of 39.6 percent, the phase-out of itemized deductions—which Obama would like to revive and which amounts to an implicit 1.2 percent surtax—and state income taxes, which typically run around 6 percent, and the total tax on labor would be close to 60 percent. In high-tax states like California and New York, the top rate would be even higher. Such high rates would provide an enormous incentive to hide income from the IRS or make earnings look like capital gains (which Obama would continue to tax at far lower rates than other income) or business profits (which are subject to income tax but exempt from payroll tax).

    (Note that Paul Krugman is wondering why Obama’s proposal hasn’t gotten more attention, as it would “push tax rates on some high-income Americans back to the levels of the 1970s.” Paul Krugman! I knew he preferred Hillary to Obama; looks like he hasn’t jumped on the bandwagon yet.)

    As previously noted, the highest tax bracket kicks in at an annual taxable income level of $357,700 in 2008. Obviously, if you’re making that salary, you’re doing pretty darn well for yourself. But is the federal government entitled to take $196,377.30* or so?

    * UPDATE: Tax-savvy readers write in:

    I’m sure many, many readers will already be e-mailing you about this, but even if you make $350K + and your marginal tax rate is 60%, that doesn’t mean 60% of your income goes to taxes, only 60% of every dollar you make above $357K (in taxable income, net of deductions etc.). The distinction is between the marginal tax rate (60%) and the average tax rate (a dollar-weighted average of all marginal rates, and much lower).

    There’s also one other point you can add to your excellent discussion of this issue (the point above is a quibble)- in addition to the negative economic impacts associated with a higher tax burden and fewer incentives to work and invest, there’s little doubt that the actual tax revenues resulting from higher tax rates will much lower than the government projects. High wage earners have lots of ways to move income around and keep it away from the taxman – being paid in stock options rather than cash, forming S corporations and calling your income “dividends” rather than earnings (thus getting around the higher social security and medicare taxes), almost unlimited contributions to 412i plans. Obama’s tax hikes will lead to a burst of entrepreneurial activity that is misdirected towards avoiding taxes rather than doing anything productive.

    Another reader puts the number lower, at least for that income level:

    Your numbers are for a worst case individual scenario, as well, as all non-self-employed would have a max tax rate AFTER $357,700 of ~44.5%.

    An argument can be made that ~44.5% (or 55% for self-employed) federal tax rate is too high for the rich (yes, I define an individual making more than $357,700/yr as rich), but by misleading your readers on how much an individual might pay on a given income, you don’t advance that argument well.

    The $196,377.30 figure is 54.9 percent of the $357,700 figure — in the ballpark for self-employed, less for those employed by others.

    06/17 02:14 PM

  105. sonia and Kostner, As far as same sex marriage, I say to each his/her own. I have enough of my own problems to worry about who is marrying who. Who cares. I am no one’s judge and if people want to be together for life, let them have a financial ability to take care of one another!

    This is one thing that I fault the republicans, they stand in judgement of others, they should of all know that God teaches he and he alone is the judge!! The stupid Republicans have had their Roolz thrown at them with all their gay senators. Ha, Ha!! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!!
    Now its time for the stupid Democrats and their roolz to find out about the Golden Rule!

  106. Obama is no Joshua
    Barack Obama’s presidential campaign plans to strike at the heart of the Republican base by attempting to woo Evangelical Christians and Roman Catholics to his side.

    The Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody first broke the story on his blog “The Brody File.” Obama’s campaign for the conservative Christian vote, which has largely gone to the Republican presidential candidate in recent elections, has been dubbed the “Joshua Generation Project.”

    Joshua, Moses’ successor, led the Israelites into the Promised Land. It wasn’t the group that fled Egypt in the Exodus, though. They died in the wilderness, lacking faith in God’s promise. It was the next generation that Joshua led into Canaan.

    Apparently, if we have enough faith in Obama, he will lead us all into a new America, but if we vote for John McCain, we will demonstrate a lack of faith (in Obama) and die in the political badlands.

    Obama is better at biblical language and imagery than any Democrat in modern times. He certainly beats Howard Dean, now the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, who once offered Job as his favorite New Testament book. This is cynical manipulation of the devout and it is no better when Democrats do it than when Republicans use religious language for partisan advantage.

    Obama has declared himself a committed Christian. He can call himself anything he likes, but there are certain markers among the evangelicals he is courting that one must meet in order to qualify for that label.

    Some insight into Obama’s “Christianity” comes from an interview he gave in 2004 to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani for her book, “The God Factor: Inside the Spiritual Lives of Public People.”

    “I’m rooted in the Christian tradition,” said Obama. He then adds something most Christians will see as universalism: “I believe there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

    Falsani correctly brings up John 14:6 (and how many journalists would know such a verse, much less ask a question based on it?) in which Jesus says of Himself, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

    That sounds exclusive, but Obama says it depends on how this verse is heard. According to Falsani, Obama thinks that “all people of faith — Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone — know the same God.” (Her words.)

    Evangelicals and serious Catholics might ask if this is so, why did Jesus waste His time coming to Earth, suffering pain, rejection and crucifixion? If there are many ways to God, He might have sent down a spiritual version of table manners and avoided the rest.

    Here’s Obama telling Falsani, “The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they’re going to hell.”

    Falsani adds, “Obama doesn’t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell. But he’s not sure he’ll be going to heaven, either.” Again, that is contrary to what Evangelicals and most Catholics believe.

    Here’s Obama again: “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I’ve been a good father to them, and I see that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they’re kind people and that they’re honest people, and they’re curious people, that’s a little piece of heaven.”

    Any first-year seminary student could deconstruct such “works salvation” and wishful thinking. Obama either hasn’t read the Bible, or if he has, doesn’t believe it if he embraces such thin theological wisps.

    Obama can call himself anything he likes, but there is a clear requirement for one to qualify as a Christian, and Obama doesn’t meet that requirement.

    One cannot deny central tenets of the Christian faith, including the deity and uniqueness of Christ as the sole mediator between God and Man and be a Christian.

    Such people do have a label applied to them in Scripture. They are called “false prophets.”

  107. Sunday, June 15, 2008
    Senator Obama refers to Jewish people as” kikes”
    Will American Jews say NO DEAL to Senator Obama this November? They may after reading this story and adding it to many other concerns about the junior senator from Illinois that have been identified on the Obama WTF website.

    On page 254 of the first edition of Senator Obama’s, Dreams from my Father, Obama refers to Jewish people as “kikes.” This particular ethnic slur is one of the most vile and offensive in our language.

    Obviously, someone at Team Obama didn’t want the public to know that the junior Senator from Illinios refered to Jewish people in such a vile and demeaning manner. The phrase has been edited out of the 2004 edition of the book which is now widely available in book stores.

    An extract of Obama’s book which included the word was referenced by the New Yorker in 2004
    (second page of article in the middle)

    How the son of a Kenyan economist became an Illinois Everyman.
    by William Finnegan May 31, 2004

    He was a black child, by American lights, but his mother and his grandparents—the only family he knew—were “white folks,” and his confusion was acute. In “Dreams from My Father,” Obama describes how, as a teen-ager, he tried marijuana and cocaine. (“I guess you’d have to say I wasn’t a politician when I wrote the book,” he told me. “I wanted to show how and why some kids, maybe especially young black men, flirt with danger and self-destruction.”) He went to Columbia University, and liked New York, but he found the city’s racial tension inescapable. It “flowed freely,” he wrote in his memoir—“not just out on the streets but in the stalls of Columbia’s bathrooms as well, where, no matter how many times the administration tried to paint them over, the walls remained scratched with blunt correspondence between niggers and kikes. It was as if all middle ground had collapsed.”

    The paragraph including the offensive ethnic slur also appears elsewhere on the web

    Whether because of New York’s density or because of its scale, it was only [there] that I began to grasp the almost mathematical precision with which America’s race and class problems joined; the bile that flowed freely not just out on the streets but in the stalls of Columbia’s bathrooms as well, where, no matter how many times the administration tried to paint them over, the walls remained scratched with blunt correspondence between niggers and kikes.
    Source: Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.254 Aug 1, 1996

    The above quote is from Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, by Barack Obama, published August 1996.

  108. Thanks to rival, Sen. John Kerry set for summer among commoners
    Monday, June 16, 2008

    From Howie Carr in the Boston Herald: This is John Forbes Kerry’s worst nightmare: He’s going to have to spend the summer campaigning . . . on the mainland.

    Fall River, Chicopee, Haverhill, Lynn, Fitchburg – not a single one of those sweaty cities has any windsurfing worth a damn, not to mention a Ducati motorcycle dealer, damn, but Liveshot is going to spend the next three months pressing the flesh in those wretched burgs, searching in vain for a proper nouvelle cuisine brassiere while enduring the foul breath of the plebeians . . .

    Stand by, Sen. Kerry, for an endless schedule of kielbasa festivals, parades, motorcycle rallies, town concerts, fireworks displays, questionnaires from special-interest groups and maybe even, gulp, a televised debate or two. Kerry’s already had to endure a Celtics playoff game. Instead of the Inn at Wauwinet, this summer Kerry will be dining at Coney Island Hot Dog in Worcester. Next thing you know, some beer-guzzling peasant in a No. 12 Patriots [team stats] jersey is going to be asking him about . . . baseball.

    Lovey, does “Manny Ortiz” still play for the Red Sox?

    And Liveshot knows who is responsible for this living hell that he now must endure all the way to the primary Sept. 16. It is Ed O’Reilly. The Gloucester lawyer will be on the ballot against him in the Democratic primary.

    Ed O’Reilly. How dare this Hibernian parvenu dare to run against John F. Kerry, America’s Gigolo? How dare 22.8 percent of the delegates to the state convention vote for this, this . . . arriviste?

    That phrase in the first paragraph, “on the mainland,” that comes from O’Reilly. He used it when I was talking to him the other night. He’s got Kerry’s number all right. He’s a bit of a moonbat, I suppose, but when you get somebody who’s running against Liveshot who’s willing to play the class card, I can overlook a lot.

    He knows how to push the buttons that will drive Kerry crazy, which is what is going to wreck Liveshot’s summer. There won’t be much time for Kerry on the Let It Be, just because O’Reilly wouldn’t let it be. Why, O’Reilly is even ready to talk about Naushon Island, the personal preserve of the Forbes family.

    “He always says he was raised on the Cape,” O’Reilly says. “Yeah, he was raised on this island, which if you or I take a little skiff across the water and try to land on that island, people are going to come out onto the beach and tell us we’re trespassing.”

    O’Reilly says, about five weeks ago, he was leaving a Democratic meeting at the Hudson Portuguese Club when he ran into his opponent arriving. Here is his recollection of the conversation:

    O’Reilly: “I guess we’ll be seeing a lot of each other.”

    Kerry: “Not for long, I hope.”

    Sorry, Liveshot, you lose!

    “The bottom line is, he’s arrogant,” O’Reilly says. “The rules don’t apply to him. He announces, there’s a thousand-dollar minimum to attend, if you want to go to the private reception it’s $2,300. Do you know how many people I talk to who say the only place they’ve ever seen him is at the airport? . . . He flies down to Bali to give a speech on global warming – how many gallons of fuel do you think that used, just so he could say he delivered a speech?”

    I’m sure O’Reilly is nowhere in the polls right now, but this is a perfect opportunity for mischief – this could become a Massachusetts version of Operation Chaos, the meddling of local Republicans in a Democratic primary, the way Rush Limbaugh tried to keep Hillary Clinton alive through April and May.

    “John Kerry,” O’Reilly continued, “will go whichever way the wind blows for his own political advantage.”

    I propose a series of 10 pre-primary debates, the first one to be held on, where else, Naushon Island.

  109. gosh, I love O’Reilly, he seems to be very smart and he definitely knows how to push the right button. LOL.

    I predict John forbes kerry will have a nightmarish reelection ahead of him.


  110. Here’s another example why Kerry is such a horrible candidate and total loser.

    From Michael Goldfarb, we learn an astounding fact: John Kerry supports granting Habeas Corpus rights to Osama bin Laden. From the NY Observer:

    When asked by a reporter about the McCain campaign’s assertion that Obama would want to give Osama Bin Laden habeas corpus rights, Kerry answered angrily.

    “The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that they have those rights — this is not Barack Obama, this is the Supreme Court of the United States. If John McCain were president he’d have to give them those rights. This is a phony argument. And it is typical of what the Republican playbook is, which is, say anything, no matter what the other side has said, just say it, people may believe it, unless you folks write the truth and write it boldly and clearly. The truth is that this is exactly what they tried to say back in 2004 and the record absolutely contradicts it.”

    It is a simple, straightforward, and reasonable position: Known terrorists, who have done nothing to earn the rights of American citizens but prove that they have varying degrees of skill in killing American citizens, should not have the same court experience as American citizens. The American people agree, emphatically rejecting the Obama-Kerry position in the ABC News/WaPo poll released today:

    13. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that non-citizens suspected of terrorism who are being held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, should be allowed to challenge their detentions in the U.S. civilian court system. (Supporters of this ruling say it provides detainees with basic constitutional rights.) (Critics of the ruling say only special military tribunals should be allowed, because hearings in open court could compromise terrorism investigations.) What’s your view – do you think these detainees should or should not be able to challenge their detentions in the civilian court system?

    Should 34%
    Should not 61%
    No Opinion 6%

    Even on a question that convoluted, people have no qualms: access to the civilian court system is not a universal right, but a right that terrorists do not deserve. If caught alive, Osama bin Laden should be tried and executed. He should not be granted rights he has no claim to, by birthright or service or any other measure

  111. admin:
    Chris Dodd’s culture of corruption.

    Via Roll Call:

    Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) said Tuesday that he has known since 2003 that his mortgage with Countrywide Financial was designated a “VIP” account, but continued to deny allegations he received any discounts when he refinanced two loans.

  112. I know that politics makes strange bedfellows, and that a lot of us here, including myself, are warming to the idea of a McCain presidency, but when it comes to John Kerry, make no mistake about it: Kerry wanted McCain as his VP in 2004!!! So for Kerry to start making self-righteous speeches about how Obama is basically god and McCain is the devil, etc. is completely disingenuous. At a minimum, it undercuts Obama’s message of “new type of politics.” New type of politics?!? Obviously, Kerry is just another political opportunist, holding his finger to the wind, angling for a cabinet position.

  113. Why in the name of Sweet Jesus would the Democrats want John Kerry to be front and center as a spokesman in this campaign? Don’t they know that the Do-Nothing Gigolo is synonomous with LOSER in the minds of the American people?

    What’s next? Mike Dukakis as a spokesman for the party on tank deployments?

  114. Agreed, hwc. The wimpy/liberal branch of the Democratic party has this asinine habit of glorifying past losers for no reason. For example: Kerry, Brazile, etc

  115. this comment is directed a Sonia..

    While I don’t know you or what makes you think the way you do, I’d suggest that the topic of gay marraige is not one that can be debated on a message board as this.

    Personally it is none of your F++++ business, who marries who. And by the way, tell all those single moms who have kids that their dead beat dads should help raise kids too.

  116. kostner, This is what I don’t understand about the liberal wing of the party.
    Why in the world do they think it is time to hire a person like Barack Obama for POTUS. They say its the right thing to do. They say we need to make right what America has done to the black people.
    Tell me with the middle class sinking fast, foreclosures, no jobs, gas prices, international terrorism at an all time high, why does this country need an experienced person as potus. Why now when are country is almost bankrupt would be need a person with no knowledge of economics, world affairs. This just tells me that John Kerry is out of touch with the world. The Democrats are just as stupid as the Republicans.

  117. Hillary Clinton will join Barack Obama for a joint appearance in Washington next week to persuade her donors to begin giving to the Democrats’ nominee, the Daily News has learned.

    It’s the first known plan to bring together the victor and vanquished from the Democrat primary race and put their pledges of unity for the fall campaign into action.

    Jonathan Mantz, Clinton’s national finance director, sent top Clinton fundraisers an e-mail today inviting them to the event on June 26.

    “As we move forward, we invite you to join us for a National Finance Committee meeting with both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on Thursday, June 26th in Washington, D.C., to discuss how we can work together to support Barack Obama and the Democratic Party,” Mantz wrote.

    “Hillary ran for President because she wants to put this country on the right track,” Mantz wrote. “She continues to fight and stand strong for our values and priorities and will do everything she can to unify the party and to elect Barack Obama the next President of the United States.”

    As part of the effort, Mantz wrote, the Clinton campaign is encourage its supporters to contribute $2,300 to Obama’s campaign.

    The event will be held at the Mayflower Hotel.

    On June 7, Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Obama for President. At the time, she encouraged her supporters to follow her lead and throw their support behind the presumptive Democratic nominee.

    Since then, the two camps have been talking about what role Clinton will play in the campaign and how best to unify the party. This event in Washington marks a major step forward.

    Clinton is scheduled to hold a conference call with donors on Thursday.

    “They’re trying to do the right thing,” said one Clinton supporter, referring to the Clintons plans to help Obama. “Whether they’re ecstatic about it or not, I don’t know.”

  118. I just read the post about Hill being booed at a Obama rally. Why can’t they just leave her alone. They’re just compounding our anger and making us more resilient about not voting for their Messiah.

    All this talk about unity is just bullsh*t.

  119. kostner Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
    can they leave Clintons alone, please…

    I hope those contributors don’t give one red cent to O’s campaign.

    I know Hillary is being pressured. I just can’t understand why she is putting herself through this

  120. does anybody know if this ‘The Tennessee Center for Policy Research’ is a legitimate organization?

    Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations

    NASHVILLE – In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

    “A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”

    In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

    In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household.

    After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

    Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

  121. Yes filbertsf, at a major rally last night, Jennifer Granhold was booed when she spoke about Hillary. Jennifer spoke at the same rally as Al Gore.

    Patti Solis Doyle….ugh.

  122. But there is another story on June 14 that Hillary herself was booed at

    “Clinton booed at MLK rally in New York”

  123. If anyone needed any more proof that Obama is a sexist pig just look at which endorsement announcements he attended. Richardson endorsed him and he attended, Dodd the same thing, Edwards and Gore, Obama was right there hugging and shaking hands. Hillary endorses him and he is playing golf.

  124. dedfg Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    But there is another story on June 14 that Hillary herself was booed at

    “Clinton booed at MLK rally in New York”

    They want UNITY we will show them UNITY by vote for JOHN MCCAIN

  125. Hey Kostner, maybe the donors won’t show up. Afterall, BO just needs checks, not people. What happened to all his grassroots minions?

  126. I apologize if i’m going to offend some of you. I know Al Gore is hero of many of you, i still like him, but I’m frankly quite skeptical about any GW alarmist. Just for fun, here’s how right wingers are digging Al on his mission.

    Too bad McCain bought three cases of snakeoil.McStupid is as McStupid does.

    In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.
    I like that they use this “fun with statistics” sort of math that makes it look to the casual reader like he uses 232 times the amount of energy a normal family does.
    Normally, I think it’s shady, but this greenie douchebag and his movement use the same sort of shenanigans as a rule.
    Hey Al, how’s that ten foot rise in the sea level coming along?

    Oh yeah, 19 times is plenty to qualify him as a big fat hypocrite. But it’s even more fun to get that 232 times number up there.
    He’s probably got a walk-in fridge, with an extra-wide door.

    AlGore needs an energy audit. His home is a black hole sucking in energy from miles around. I’ll bet he has a couple freezers full of Ben&Jerry’s ice cream and Jimmy Dean pork sausage.

    The GORACLE’s disciples are becoming fewer and fewer…

    No problem guys. He will invest more money in his company and buy more of those hip carbon credits. Barf!

    when the idiots who belive in man-made gorebull warming and co2 emissions start acting like they really believe it (downsizing to more energy efficient homes, no private jets, teleconferencing instead of flying to conferences in brunei, no limos, no extra security, etc.) then i still won’t believe any of their crap but at least they will be following the same rules they are trying to jam up our …. which at least will plug some methane output.

    This is what happens when your diet consists mainly of Polar bear.

    I wish the article hadn’t mixed apples and oranges. I use enough energy in a year to power my home for twelve months.It would have been better to skip the ludicrous hype and just point out that his usage is almost twenty times the average. That is incredible enough.

    Maybe all those growlux lights in the basement for his son’s maryjewanna plants???

    the rules only apply to the masses, not to the rulers.

    He can afford it by selling those phony Carbon Credits. He has become a Gazillionaire from Global Scamming.

  127. I just read the post about Hill being booed at a Obama rally. Why can’t they just leave her alone. They’re just compounding our anger and making us more resilient about not voting for their Messiah.

    The Obamabots are bulls in a china shop, to put it diplomatically. They follow Axelrod’s and Gibbs’ leads, and the result is one of the least gracious and most irritating campaigns we’ve ever seen. They simply cannot behave themselves. The avowed supporters are flat-out rabid, and even the media shills, who are supposed to masquerade as being unbiased, often let it slip that they want Obama to win, etc. It’s embarrassing. It’s one thing to be excited but it’s another thing to be arrogant and annoying. All they’ve managed to do is alienate Clinton supporters and independents.

    Writing off Florida and Ohio (“we don’t need those states to win”) was the last straw, in my mind. That is arrogance at its worst form.

  128. As far as I am concerned, Kerry can continue his Obama worshipping in the media……it is only a matter of time before he GAFFES big time!!!!

    Trust me on this one! 🙂

  129. rjk1957 Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    I would love to see Hillary tell the democratic party to go fuck themselves and become McCain’s running mate


    Can they pick someone from another party?

  130. neetabug

    Kerry supposedly asked McCain in 2004, Kerry denied it and Mccain said no comment, but later hinted that it was true. They can pick anyone they want.

  131. Which Whitey Failed Obama

    By Evelyn Pringle

    Which Whitey Failed Obama

    Barack Obama’s political advisors, the majority of whom are white, apparently failed to inform their candidate that he was supposed to hide the fact that he hates white voters until after the general election and not just through the primaries.

    Obama running for president has done more to divide the blacks and whites in this country than any event in recent memory. Call me naive, but this white person had no idea that the type of racism exhibited in his church and others in Chicago existed.

    I now find myself reviewing the faces of every black friend I thought I had over the past 30 years and thinking “is this really what you thought of me?”Michelle Obama Off Tape
    By Bud WhitecloseAuthor: Bud White Name: Joyan and Bud White White
    About: See Authors Posts (31) on June 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM in Barack Obama, Clinton, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Jewish voters, Larry Johnson, Michelle Obama, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Obama, Stokely Carmichael, White People, Whitey Tape, hate speech

    by Bud White and Medusa

    I will “use all of my present and future resources to benefit [the Black]community first and foremost

    Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites…it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first

    there is a distinctive Black culture different from White culture.

    [A] Black person may have all White friends and prefer these friends and their activities to those with Blacks without the individual believing that he/she is White

    Are these the long-awaited excerpts from Michelle Obama’s “whitey” rant? No, these gems of racial “tolerance” come from her Princeton thesis. As the Obama campaign unleashes its Orcs to stifle dissent and cover-up Michelle’s greatest hits, we believe an analysis of Michelle Obama’s public statements and writings offer plenty of material to understand her views on race, with or without the audio tape.

    Like archaeologists uncovering artifacts to decipher a culture, we view Michelle’s extant words as a crystallization of a worldview which can be examined to understand her views on race in America. Michelle Obama wrote the quotes above in her Princeton thesis on race and in it acknowledges that that she is influenced by and utilizes the definition of black “separationism” offered by Stokely Carmichael and Charles Hamilton in their 1967 screed Black Power: The Politics of Liberation in America. She writes:Stokely Carmichael guided Michelle Obama’s thesis on race? This is very important. Carmichael was not a mainstream academic source in his times. He was not the Henry Louis Gates, Jr. of the 1960s, writing scholarly, brilliant works on black America. In fact, Carmichael, the Honorary Prime Minister of the Black Panther Party, espoused a violent black separatist philosophy which was diametrically opposed to Dr. King’s and the Civil Rights Movement’s struggle for integration and equality.

    In his 1966 article entitled What We Want, in the New York Review of Books, Stokely Carmichael wrote, “about plots to ‘get Whitey‘” saying that “Black people don’t want to ‘get whitey,’” and in a 1969 article entitled Toward Black Liberation, Carmichael talks about racial incidents as “Git Whitey” “sensationalism.” Christopher Hitchens writes:

    I remember poor Stokely Carmichael quite well. After a hideous series of political and personal fiascos, he fled to Africa, renamed himself Kwame Toure after two of West Africa’s most repellently failed dictators, and then came briefly back to the United States before electing to die in exile. I last saw him as the warm-up speaker for Louis Farrakhan in Madison Square Garden in 1985, on the evening when Farrakhan made himself famous by warning Jews, “You can’t say ‘Never Again’ to God, because when he puts you in the ovens, you’re there forever.”

    Consider for a moment that Michelle Obama built her thesis on the philosophy of a man who believed that “Before a group can enter the open society, it must first close ranks.”

    Next consider her statement that she will “use all of my present and future resources to benefit [the Black] community first and foremost.” [Emphasis added]

    Lastly, remember that the Obamas spent 20 years as active students of Jeremiah Wright’s odious racist rants. Think about that in mathematical terms. If they attended church for two hours weekly, that’s 2,000 hours of Jeremiah Wright, or one full year of working at a job 40 hours a week. That’s a lot of “United States of KKK-A.” The Obamas were, until recently, members of a church which describes itself in explicitly racial language:

    We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. [emphasis added]

    In other words, the Obamas were active participants in a black separatist church, a church which explicitly emphasized skin color over salvation, heritage over faith, one group of people instead of the universality of spiritual needs.The ideology espoused from this church may sound innocuous to Obama’s supporters. But it’s an important question, in a diverse nation of 300 million. Do we want a couple in the White House whose stated influences include Stokely Carmichael and Jeremiah Wright instead of Martin Luther King? Or someone who said:

    For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country

    Really, Michelle? Is it because Barack is so wonderful that only now you’re proud of your country or is there another reason you’re proud for the first time? Please tell us the reason. Or as Christopher Hitchens asks about Obama:

    If there is a reason why the potential nominee has been keeping what he himself now admits to be very bad company—and if the rest of his character seems to make this improbable—then either he is hiding something and/or it is legitimate to ask him about his partner.

    Supposedly, Obama’s pastors preach a philosophy known as “Black Liberation Theology.” I am not about to spend time educating myself on this so-called “philosophy” in order to find a way to rationalize their unacceptable hate-filled preaching.

    I am also not going to mince words in expressing my opinion on this issue.

    It may be that the majority of black people do not share the same kind of mentality but after watching the congregation in Obama’s church whoop and holler in unison as white people were denigrated, its difficult to believe that black people do not think this way. Its also difficult to believe, being that over 90% of the black people in this country are willing to vote for Obama based on nothing other than skin color.

    I am not going to accept the blame for slavery or anything else that I had nothing to do with. No more than I am going to blame the entire black race for the fact that I was raped by a black man 25 years ago. Many of us are the victims of some form of injustice but that does not give us the right spend our lives trying to allocate blame amongst people who are in no way responsible.

    The thought of the children in these churches being indoctrinated from birth with a regular Sunday service of this hate-filled ranting is what I find most appalling of all and I consider it child abuse.

    My children are gown but had they come home and made similar statements about black people when they were children, they would have been duly warned that their mouths would be washed out with soap if I ever heard those kinds of comments again. And they most certainly would not have attended any church that taught them to utter such filth.

    Its fine that Obama now says he’ll quit the church but who is going to erase the years of racist teachings from the minds of his children?

    If the leaders of the Democratic party think white people are going to vote for Obama knowing that he supported the promotion of racism for 20 years, they have another thing coming.

    Since I began reporting on my investigation of Obama’s background in late March 2008, I have received over 1,000 emails from people objecting to the fact that the Democratic party is pushing Obama down their throats without proper vetting, but the outrage expressed over this race issue has by far outweighed all others.

    The majority of people who send emails are not saying they are going to vote Republican, they are saying they are not going to vote period. But either way Democrats lose.

    To save time for future readers who might email me to ask why the leaders of the Democratic party have not vetted Obama or why the mainstream media is not reporting on the information included in the 5 part, “Curtain Time for Barack Obama,” series, I can assure you they all know.

    People began asking my permission to forward my work on Obama to the major media organizations, as well as the leaders of the Democratic party and the superdelegates, in early April 2008 and I received copies of information that was forwarded.

    The Republicans will make sure the mainstream media provides a non-stop recycling of the damaging information already disclosed in my reports the minute Obama is nominated and the leaders of the Democratic party know it. Which means they are knowingly handing the election to John McCain on a silver platter.

    Evelyn Pringle

    Authors Bio: Evelyn Pringle is a columnist for OpEd News and investigative journalist focused on exposing corruption in government and corporate America.

  132. neetabug,

    its not going to happen. there will be riot on the right. I read somewhere mccain really wants lieberman to be his running mate if he can get away with it, but he can’t…

  133. As a latte environmentalist myself (no McDonald’s latte, you never know its provenance), I think the drilling issue is serious. Supreme Court justices come and go, but damage to a pristine area is permanent.

    Rather than a head-on collision between SUVs and porpoises, probably we’ll need to put this in a larger perspective. On environmentalism in general, looking ahead more than four years, what is a 2008 vote going to do?

    Working out from the specific, Obama voted for the Cheney energy bill, which would run a pipeline along the west coast — not nice. He supports faux-eco fuels such as ‘clean coal’ — which is no such thing. He did a faux-regulation bill about nuclear waste — then watered down the fine print at the direction of the nuclear money till it meant nothing.

    Hillary took McCain flying around the world to show him global warming was real, and he now cares and has been trying to convince other Republicans. That takes a lot of sincerity and guts.

    Imo some powerful manipulation is being done to gas prices, probably with some intent of manipulating the election. Or at least panicking us to allow the offshore drilling. If Obama were President, could he stand up to that same pressure? Or would he even try, as he hasn’t stood up in action for any other environmental issue, sfaik?

  134. oops i copied that from an email i got and didn’t remove the personal comments at the begining written by the email sender

    not that i disagree with this person, just wanted to clarify those were not my words.

  135. Kostner, Al is running for President and we all know what the Wingnuts think of Gore and GW. There’s no need for the reminder.

  136. rjk1957 Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Kerry supposedly asked McCain in 2004, Kerry denied it and Mccain said no comment, but later hinted that it was true. They can pick anyone they want.

    If this is true I wish McCain would ask Hillary. Shows you what a deceitful man Kerry is. I am so glad he lost.

  137. Since it’s generally agreed right now that the political climate for Republicans will be toxic this year, it’s not surprising that there are painfully few Democrats who seem to face uphill climbs for re-election. It looks like at least one however, has earned his way onto the list:

    Kanjorski’s district leans Democratic, with 53 percent voting for Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) for president in 2004, but Republicans see an opportunity in the blue-collar district. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) performed poorly in the district in the April presidential primary, losing by 42 points to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

    In a polling memo released Monday by Barletta’s campaign, Barletta led Kanjorski in a ballot test, 47 percent to 42 percent. The Susquehanna Polling and Research survey took the opinion of 400 likely general election voters March 27-29. The poll had a margin of error of 4.9 points…

    But it’s clear that national Democrats are nervous about the district: The DCCC made $26,000 in independent expenditures in the district to pay for polling.

  138. bush to ask congress to re-instate off-shore drilling(tomorrow). i hope pelosi and co. squash it and give JM more ammunition.

  139. Neetabug: They want UNITY we will show them UNITY by vote for JOHN MCCAIN

    Heh. Now that’s UNITY I can get behind.

  140. fox also reports HRC and BO to “meet” next thursday to discuss why BO’s campaign is not reaching out to hillary’s supporters.

  141. alcina, more ammunition for what? If anything, McCain pushing this stupid off-shore drilling is going to drive away a lot of Clinton supporters. He’s already got the Indies and the Pugs… if he wants people like me, he shouldn’t push his luck.

  142. turndownobama-com,

    but i’m pretty much in the middle of environmental extremists and right wing corporist. I think it’s absurd for environmentalists to believe high oil prices will bring about all the ‘changes’ alone.

    I mean the pursuit of ‘alternative energy’ has been ongoing for decades, but the technology is still very preliminary. It’s crazy to believe in either bambi or hillary’s promise of some magic pill to get alternative energy in a few years.

    anyway, i’ll stop arguing with you, but i’m still very skeptical.

  143. filbert

    i really believe we need some short term relief while we work on long term energy alternatives.

  144. Obama needs to come out asap and decry the booing and attacks on Hillary by his supporters. Anything less is criminal.

  145. alcina Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    fox also reports HRC and BO to “meet” next thursday to discuss why BO’s campaign is not reaching out to hillary’s supporters.

    Sorry Hillary I can never EVER support O. Instead of Hillary sitting down with him let me and some other supporters set down with him and let him have it

  146. filbertsf,

    I have no doubt GW’s intention is to make rich oil buddies richer and richer. He is basically an oil man.

    Besides politics, I have different reason in supporting the talk of off-shore drilling. I sincerely believe the current oil price is out of hand. Little has to do with the real suplly-demand, much has to do with fat cat wall street speculators. Simply by talking about drilling in a serious matter will pop the bubble of oil price.
    I wouldn’t be serious the price can come down by $50 if U.S. congress threatens to drill.

    I want to burn those wall street fat cats.

  147. If you care about the long term damage to the environment, then you’re a labled an extremist. Whereas if you believe we should drill in ANWAR and off-shore, you’re a moderate in the middle.

    Okay Kostner. Whatever.

    You’re fair-minded and everyone else is a far left wacko.

  148. btw…is that Larry sinclair appearance going to be covered or streamed anywhere tomorrow…and confirm time please

  149. alcina

    That is easy to answer. His team has come up with an electoral map strategy that not only excludes Florida and Michigan but Hillary’s supporters as well. It is more commonly refered to as a Coup d’état

  150. neeta and jan

    hillary must know any reaching out by BO will fall on deaf ears. there is NOTHING he and/or his surrogates can do or say to change our minds.

  151. Back in the day, you know, four years ago, when John Kerry took it on the chin about his navy career, democrats decried the “swiftboating” of his military history as republicans smeared what was, at the least, honorable service to our country.

    Well, some Obamoids learned the lessons verrrrrry well. At today’s Huffypot (do the google, I won’t link), Jeffrey Klein has started swiftboating John McCain’s navy career by implying McCain was both over privileged (he’s an elitist too!) and an incompetent flier. He starts the piece with a question about whether or not McCain was in line for a promotion to flag officer, but Klein quickly veers off into smearville. Of course, it wouldn’t be an anti-McCain talking point if he wasn’t tied to Bush:

    Read the rest ->

    McCain’s sense of entitlement to privileged treatment bears an eerie resemblance to George W. Bush’s.

    But I think the part I loathe the most is this:

    The genius of McCain’s mythmaking is his perceived humility amid perpetual defiance. Having been a rebel without cause, and often a rebel without consequences, McCain apparently was not surprised when his Vietnamese captors went relatively easy on him compared to his fellow POWs.

    Wow. That’s pretty brutal. Wonder what standing this guy has to make such veiled accusations? Nice too is the title of this little hit piece: “McCain’s Secret, Questionable Record.” Of course, Klein says all he really wants is McCain to release all his navy records and that would answer ALL POSSIBLE questions. I call bs on that.

    This campaign cycle resembles nothing so much as the Rove directed Republican efforts of 2000 and 2004, only with Democrats in the Republican role. Phew! Nasty! I’d like to see what Klein could do with the records of a Medal of Honor winner. Bet this crack investigator could get that award cut down to a “time served” ribbon.

  152. Kostner, I am with you,drill for the oil here, make it as safe as possible! Its down right stupid to make Americans pay huge prices at the pump because the government has not implemented goals in the past 30 years to improve gas mileage and reduce dependence on oil. Get busy and work in a non party way and get the legislation past while we are drilling for the oil now and when we can get the other methods on line quit drilling. Simple and easy. There is way too many power players like Dean, Pelosi and Kerry in office these days.

  153. does anybody know these charges against Patti Solis Doyle are for real? I’m kind of skeptical. I mean she might not be the most effective campaign manager, but i don’t think it’s fair to blame everything on her.

    From Washington Note.

    The first edicts that late-in-the-day Hillary Clinton Campaign director Maggie Williams issued to her staff as Patti Solis Doyle was heading out the door were:

    1. Be respectful of your fellow staff members — generous in spirit, positive, constructive.
    2. Return all phone calls — even if you have to return them at night when you know the other person won’t be in. Return every single one.

    3. Feel empowered to share your ideas for the campaign. Send them to [me], Howard Wolfson, anyone. We want your ideas and want to hear from you.

    Patti Solis Doyle allegedly bred a lot of ill will inside the campaign among staffers. Many Clinton aides talked about how she had a wall erected between herself and the rest of the campaign staff in Iowa. Others who had been around for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign talked about how Patti Solis Doyle had shut down the campaign office for two full days in order to watch the collected DVD set of “Grey’s Anatomy.” I’m not kidding.

    So, point number one on Maggie Williams’ list was a good place to start for the morale-challenged Clinton campaign crowd.

  154. Yeah. And when that oil runs out, then what do we do and who should we blame?

    There is no such thing as a clean and safe process when it comes to drilling for oil. Don’t delude yourselves.

    Killing off endangered species and damaging the environment just b/c we human have an insatiable appetite for oil.

    Give people more and they put off investing in the long term. It’s only during our time of desperation do people put their heads together and find a long-term solution.

  155. Another Obama supporter with questionable ties to Countrywide and it is none other than holier than thou Chris Dodd…

    Dodd Denies Preferential Treatment by Controversial Mortgage Lender

  156. I just read upthread that McCain really wants Lieberman, but that the right would riot. Folks, this is what is wrong with Washington!! This is why gas is 4 dollars a gal. Its all power and whose side your on!! Dammit, we should make these idiots do what right for us for a change and not themselves!

  157. The price of oil has nothing to do with the middle east, it is all because of the futures markets. Congress should follow the money and see who is buying the futures instead of selling driving the price of oil up…. follow the money..

  158. What Hillary Won By Losing (NY Magazine)

    In the new issue of New York magazine, John Heilemann looks at what Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton achieved in her campaign “in spite of losing, and maybe even because of it.”

    His view is that she has become “poignantly human” and a “feminist hero,” a role that he says was enhanced by her ill-treatment at the hands of a sexist media. With some relatively candid quotes from Mrs. Clinton, it provides the first serious reflection of how she would like the history of her candidacy to be written.

    But first, the news: Mr. Heilemann refers a couple of times to the idea that Mrs. Clinton and her husband think Senator Barack Obama will not win in November.

    “It would be hard to overstate the private pessimism that Hillary and Bill Clinton feel about Obama’s general-election prospects,” he writes, though there are no quotations attached.

    And later, mulling her future, he writes: “For all the talk of her trying to muscle her way onto the ticket, one senses in her a genuine ambivalence about whether she wants the job. If Obama does offer it, however, she will have no choice but to take it. She is all too aware that if she turned it down and he lost this fall, she would be blamed even more loudly than she will be already, even though in her view his downfall is foreordained, and has nothing to do with her.”

    Foreordained? Alas, no elaboration.

    But moving right along, here’s the main thesis: “Hillary is today a more resonant, consequential, and potent figure than she has ever been before.”

    And there are more tidbits about her husband’s role, including this from her last day on the trail in South Dakota, after Mr. Clinton went on a rant against an article about him in Vanity Fair:

    “I ask how Hillary will handle it. ‘She used to get upset, but at this point, it’s been so bad for so long, I think her attitude is, like, Whatever’.”

    Mrs. Clinton talks about her anger toward the media — and why she didn’t take up this cause more fully while she was a candidate:

    “I didn’t think I was in a position to take it on because it would have looked like it was just about me. And I didn’t think it was just about me. So the only time we took it on was in the thing about Chelsea, which was so far beyond the bounds, I mean, what planet are we living on? But nobody said anything until I made it an issue. So I just want everybody to really think hard about the larger lesson here. I know you can’t take me out of the equation, because I’m in the center of the storm. But it’s much bigger than me. And women know that.”

  159. Breaking News: Hillary takes one month off!!! GREAT NEWS

    Per hill
    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) is taking a month off from Congress to recuperate after her marathon run for the presidency.

    She is not expected to return to the Senate until July 7 or July 8 after the Independence Day recess, according to two Democratic sources.

    Clinton’s Democratic colleagues in the Senate are taking a sympathetic attitude toward her extended absence, which comes after a grueling 18-month formal bid for the White House and, according to some calculations, a decade or more of planning and positioning since the days when her husband was president.

    “People understand this is a transition for her,” Sen. Bob Casey Jr. (D-Pa.) said.

    It is a transition from the possibility of the most powerful job in the world to the reality of a junior senatorship among 99 others in a chamber dominated by overweening egos that have already indicated they will make no special provision for her to ascend quickly to a leadership role.

    A statement issued Tuesday by Clinton’s Senate spokesman, Philippe Reines, said the senator “took some well-deserved R&R with her family last week, and she’ll be back here before you know it.
 In the meantime, she continues to work for New York and America, and she’ll be fighting harder than ever for the issues she has throughout her public life.”

    Reines would not say where Clinton is vacationing, and most senators said they did not know her location either.

  160. rjk1957,

    I largely agree with you, but you’re way overestimate the power of U.S. government. The world capital market is way out of Washington’s control. There’s no way that Congress can simply ‘follow the money and see who is buying the futures instead of selling driving the price of oil up’

  161. Good for Hillary — if anyone deserves some R&R and time with their family, it’s her. And it’ll force the media and Bambi to think of something else to do, other than berating her all the time.

  162. Does anyone have an idea who is buying up the futures?? I wonder who would have the most to gain with the prices this high???

  163. confloyd,

    futures market consists of both long & short positions. it won’t matter whether prices are high, higher, low, lower, somebody will gain…

    anyway, just read a weird surveyusa poll in Minnesota. Obama 47%, Mccain 46%. I want to believe this poll, but unfortunately most of the current polls are just crap, there’s no way mccain is tied in a very liberal state minnesota…

  164. Kostner, People are getting very scared of Senator Obama! I believe he will go down with an historic defeat.

    As far as gas goes, I do believe the market is being manipulated somewhat for this election. I can’t tell you how its being done, but it is.

  165. Kostner, I am from Minnesota and can confirm McCain is very popular here. Conversely, Obama is extremely popular in Wisconsin, most likely due to it’s proximity to Illinois. We have an independent streak up here plus, from my own conversations with other Minnesotans, Obama’s church is having a big impact.

    I can’t vouch for the poll numbers you cited but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were true. Lots of farm/labor blue collar Democrats here…not Obama’s base…

  166. I just want to repost something I put up over at No Quarter in response to a good post about the FluffPo morons being at it again. See that parent article here:

    The article is about how some joke of a wannabe scribe, Jeffrey Klein, is trying to swiftboat John McCain regarding his military service.

    My reponse to Klein and his pack of hack-ass jackals:

    Barack Obama would not have lasted 1 year in the Hanoi Hilton, let alone more than five. Obama’s frail, gaunt, phlegmatic constitution — not to mention his incredibly weak psyche which led to substance abuse — is not designed for the stresses of POW treatment and is unsatisfactory for the rigors of the presidency. As Harriet Christian said, he is inadequate.

    Beyond this, Obama’s lack of a sense of duty never would have allowed him to put himself in the position McCain was in when he was shot down. McCain had volunteered for extra flights in Vietnam to help out the diminished capabilities of an aircraft carrier which was not his own. If you don’t know the story, see here:

    McCain vs Obama: Courage vs Cravenness

    John McCain fought so that punk small female canines like Jeffrey Klein could write the garbage which Klein spewed here. McCain gave more than 5 of the best years of his life for Klein and Obama’s malnourished behinds and this is how the two Lazy-Boy lads repay him.

    You don’t get more un-American or ungrateful than that. In fact, perhaps we can just start calling Klein “Michelle” in order to properly convey how much of a snot-nosed, sniveling ingrate Klein and his ilk truly are.

    Michelle typifies what is wrong with our country today: An American Idol, I-am-a-superstar-but-you-don’t-know-it-yet, entitlement mentality. That a woman who rode affirmative action (admitted by Michelle) to two Ivy League degrees can still be kvetching about ‘our loans’ and demanding of cousin Dick Cheney to “give us something here!” is all you need to know. She, and her husband, are a disgrace.

    This is not the attitude which made America great; it is poison. Yet it is so damn ubiquitous these days and Michelle — and her inexperienced, impudent hubby — typify this thought process which has led to America’s precipitous decline around the world.

    John McCain sacrificed for his country. He is a hero. He symbolizes the hard work and sacrifice all Americans can be proud of, the standards which they would have their children set and achieve.

    Barack Hussein Obama, and Jeffrey Klein, are examples of what happens when a once-proud nation comes to the Nero-fiddling moment in its course. They are the worst, most parasitic elements of our republic.

    America has a choice now: Will you help to restore the United States’ preeminence or will you vote for the man who will hasten the burning of Rome, Barack Hussein Obama?

    As Spike Effing Lee would say, “Do the right thing.”

    Hey Jeffrey, we’re not going to allow you to get away with this crap. If you want to go Olbermann for tanked-out FluffJoke, prepare to suffer the same fate that Obama’s female supporter (can’t recall her name) in MA suffered and that Kerry is suffering now by being primaried. We’re not having that sh*t, jerk.

    Obama is a rail-thin, dork, wonk wannabe. He’s the black Clark Gable with his Dumbo ears. He sucks, is incompetent and inexperienced and is so damn frail that he’s smoking again.

    Sorry, this guy shouldn’t be anywhere near “The Button.”

    McCain may be a little feisty but he is also a proven warrior who will sacrifice for the nation. Given the choice between the war hero and the would-be coke junkie, Obama shouldn’t, and doesn’t, stand a chance.

  167. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
    How in the hell is BO slightly ahead in PA and Ohio??? McCain better get his ass in gear!


    JB – remember that anytime we were waiting for a primary/caucus during Clinton vs. Obama – the preponderance of propaganda from the media in support of BO was at its max – including the media selectively highlighting polls that favored BO, everything from NH, CA, TX, OH polls he was favored in – and then, of course, Clinton wins. We have 5 months of pure propaganda to deal with before people pull the lever. I hope America is tuning out.

    I remember Giuliani had this great commercial that Ogremann aired – and the tagline was “Turn off the Noise” and he had all these talking head including KO. Giuliani’s ad was right on target.

  168. confloyd,

    some people are suspecting middle east/bin laden-lite are pulling the oil button for obama.

    It’s very logical though. Whom do they want to win the white house? McCain, a man who wants to win in Iraq, unlikely; Hillary, a woman who threatens to wipe out Iran if it dares to use nuclear weapons against Israel, very unlikely.

    The only logical selection for those mullers are our messiah. It won’t surprise me one bit they are placing their bet on the Messiah.

  169. gosh,

    this is so unbearable. just read Michelle Obama version 2.0 is about to roll out next week. I want to throw up…

    In coming weeks, Mrs. Obama will unveil a new speech, emphasizing her modest background and family ties. She will visit the spouses of military personnel and talk of the country’s patriotic duty to provide these families with care and services. And Stephanie Cutter, who was Senator John Kerry’s communications director during his 2004 presidential bid, is being hired as her chief of staff, to oversee a rapid-response operation to deflect attacks on Mrs. Obama.

    Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, a close ally of the Obama campaign, says Mrs. Obama must stop sounding like a lawyer trying to win an argument. The trick, she said, is “being friendly and outgoing but not pushing so hard to persuade people that Barack is the right one.”

    “All she has to do is be likeable,” Mrs. McCaskill said.

  170. Hey Hill fans…. I’ve been surfing over on LS site and they are trying to raise money
    So that LS NPC event tomorrow can be aired live!
    With TR funeral tomorrow LS will not get coverage unless he can cough up
    The $$$ cha ching to have it aired….. I for one would really love to see LS live
    And Obama need a pamper change! I decided that a mere $20 was worth it to me to help 😀
    So if you could spare anything even $5 I would like to ask you all to do so now.

    Here is a copy/paste of a recent posting on this below

    $340.00 total raised by 8:13 pm
    $10,160 to go!
    That number just keeps getting smaller and smaller and we’re just getting started!
    Just give up your Starbucks for one day and SEE HISTORY LIVE!
    Give up your cigs or beer for one day!

  171. Patti Solis-Doyle: Obama Mole?

    h t t p : / /

    Ever since the Obama camp announced Patti Solis-Doyle would be joining their team as the Chief of Staff for the yet-to-be-chosen Vice Presidential candidate, I’ve been wondering if she was always a part of their team.

    Afterall, Taylor Marsh informs us, and others confirm that Solis-Doyle has a 20 year relationship with David Axelrod, Obama’s puppet master. Further, over at No Quarter, Larry Johnson reveals that Solis-Doyle used to work for Richard Daley and her brother is a Chicago alderman. Clearly, the Solis-Doyle, Axelrod ties run deep.

    In addition, Steve Clemons, over at the Washington Note reported back in March:

    Patti Solis Doyle allegedly bred a lot of ill will inside the campaign among staffers. Many Clinton aides talked about how she had a wall erected between herself and the rest of the campaign staff in Iowa. Others who had been around for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign talked about how Patti Solis Doyle had shut down the campaign office for two full days in order to watch the collected DVD set of “Grey’s Anatomy.” I’m not kidding. [emphasis mine]

    On top of those clear failures, she also horribly mismanaged the Clinton campaign financially.

    One Clinton backer said what everyone was thinking:

    “Who can blame Obama for rewarding Patti? He would never be the nominee without her,” one person who has worked for both Clintons and remains close to them said.

    The question isn’t whether she helped him, it’s whether she did it knowingly. Had Hillary won Iowa, the outcome would probably be very different today. Patti Solis-Doyle was ultimately the architect of Hillary’s Iowa defeat (Obama and Edward’s tactics excluded).

    In my estimation, Patti Solis-Doyle was a mole.

  172. That NY Magazine (@NYMagDOTcom) is by far the most revealing piece yet as far as a recap of the race from the Clinton side
    (including Hillary’s most extensive quotes to date).

    Of course the author John Heilemann is way off base when he starts critiquing President Clinton, just like every other two-bit punk asshole who calls himself a journalist has for the past 20 years.

    But the story contains relevant info and is worth a read.

  173. djia, I bet you a dollar to a donut, Patti was the unnamed source from the Clinton campaign that kept leaking news to the media. She is a snitch!

  174. Kostner, I believe you are right. Its apparent who the middle east wants in, the only question is why??? When a muslim gives up his faith he is to be executed according to Shria Law. So if Obama is a convert to Christianity, why would they want to help elect him?? I think because he is undercover for them, I think he is one of them!!

  175. Filbert, I actually think the off-shore drilling isn’t entirely bad because there won’t be much. John McCain has a very good record on the environment, and I am interested in what he says next. He opposed the Dick Cheney energy plan, and he is so right about corn ethanol. Corn ethanol subsidies are a black mark for the Democrats. It takes tons of oil producing corn ethanol, the net result is negative for the environment. We should have allowed importing of sugar ethanol from brazil, as he said. I am in total agreement with him on that. In addition, corn ethanol has made food prices sky rocket and is hurting the poor here and abroad.

  176. Clinton, Obama to make joint appearance next week
    Posted: 07:08 PM ET

    From CNN Correspondent Jessica Yellin

    Clinton and Obama are set to make their first post-primary season appearance next week.
    (CNN) — Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will make a joint public appearance next week for the first time since she ended her White House bid.

    Clinton’s national finance director, Jonathan Mantz, sent top donors an invitation Tuesday for a June 26 meeting in Washington, D.C. featuring both former rivals. Mantz also asked Clinton donors to show unity by giving Obama $2,300, the maximum donation allowable under federal campaign finance laws.

    He added that Clinton “will do everything she can to unify the party and to elect Barack Obama the next President of the United States.”

  177. filbertsf Says:
    If anything, McCain pushing this stupid off-shore drilling is going to drive away a lot of Clinton supporters. He’s already got the Indies and the Pugs… if he wants people like me, he shouldn’t push his luck.

    Me too. This could be a deal-breaker. Laws and SC justices come and go, but extinction is forever.

    I think there are probably good defenses for McCain on this, but we need to find them, not just throw the polar bears under OUR bus as another liberal guilt chimera.



    I don’t think I’d got to arguing with you yet. 🙂 I haven’t yet seen all the detail on this debate. My position is that we need some short term relief right now, not years away. (We couldn’t even DRILL fast enough.)

    I think (as Hillary said iirc) that the place to look for cause — and relief — is financial manipulation. Rising use in Asia wouldn’t have risen that suddenly. Something has changed, on some paperwork controlled by some fat cats in striped pants and spats (or possibly in Arab robes), or whatever the gnomes of Zurich wear. (Hi wbboei.)

    We need a study to find out if we REALLY got going, Apollo 2009 as HIllary says, if we couldn’t convert to sustainable US produced energy just about as fast as finding more oil by drilling in protected US areas. Hillary also mentioned using some of our stored ‘strategic reserve’ oil.

    So maybe the key is, between Obama and McCain, which one is more likely to call Hillary up in her curlers and face cream, and then DO WHAT SHE SAYS. 🙂

  178. …He added that Clinton “will do everything she can to unify the party

    I thought Obama was the big unifier.

  179. Once again Hillary has to pick up the pieces of Obama’s errors.

    Obama has been the most devisive candidate that I can remember. He has torn the DNC apart in what 5 months.

  180. birdgal: yes you are right, it was with their blessing. One thing though is that I won’t let them try and blame Hillary for it. (which is exactly what they are trying to do)

  181. turndownobama wrote: Me too. This could be a deal-breaker. Laws and SC justices come and go, but extinction is forever.

    I’m not quite sure how to put this, but if you’re considering McCain because of his policies then you’re probably barking up the wrong tree? Sure “extinction is forever” but it won’t be accomplished in the next four years and the trouble that Bambi has up his sleeve is for now.

    Still, I respect that others may not be as wary as I am of what Bambi has shown us so far and what that means for the country under his Presidency.

  182. mj,
    The Corn ethanol stuff is a total hoax. It’s a disaster brought out by the kool-aid drinking extremists. Without government subsidiaries, this food-for-oil craze would have never taken off the ground.

    People in third world country are suffering, i mean, suffering due to this scam, dems who’ve been adovocating this should be shamed.

    I’m even more sceptical about Al Gore’s global warming stuff after reading a new article of his household energy usage. Did you read that article. He’s such a hypocrite if the data from that investigation are accurate. I mean this guy asks everybody else to live in cave in order to be carbon-neutral, but look at what his own home has been burning…

    “In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month…”

    The worst part is that after promising in 2007, he would do everything he could such as installing solar panel, energy saving light bulbs etc to reduce electricity consumption, look at his final tally.

    “In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research…”

    Gosh, this guy is promising us he’s going to save the earth, but he flunked his own experiment so badly. Where is his credibility, serious? When tomorrow he’s going to sell us his carbon credit card, everybody needs to hold your pocket and be careful.

  183. In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research…
    In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month…
    After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use [in February 2007], the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.
    Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month – 1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

  184. Here’s the February ‘07 report, which claimed he averaged 16,200 kWh per month in 2005 and 18,400(!) kWh per month in 2006 — in which case, I’m not sure how his current average of 17,700+ represents a 10% increase. Did he have a precipitous drop-off in energy use between the end of 2006 and June 2007, before the new renovations? It’s important to be accurate in these things or else we’re left to wonder if he’s using enough juice to power a medium-sized town or just a small one.

  185. Obama fundraiser attracts criticism from GOP, raises questions on ethics
    By Alexander Bolton

    An event Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) headlined last week has prompted head-scratching among Illinois ethics experts and drawn sharp rebuke from Republicans because one of the main organizers participated in Antoin “Tony” Rezko’s old fundraising network.

    John W. Rogers Jr., the chairman of Ariel Investments who gave $22,500 in contributions to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) through Rezko, hosted a top-dollar special reception with Obama Thursday to raise money for the Democratic White House Victory Fund.

    Rogers has also pledged to raise over $200,000 for Obama’s campaign. He was one of many political players whose name surfaced during Rezko’s recent trial. A federal jury convicted the Chicago political fixer of mail and wire fraud, aiding and abetting bribery and money laundering.
    Rogers gave contributions of $10,000, $7,500 and $5,000 to Blagojevich through Rezko, according to a chart of contributions the Department of Justice (DoJ) presented as part of its case.

    In an interview on Tuesday, Rogers said he never had a one-on-one meeting with Rezko and did not know why his name appeared on the Rezko donation chart compiled by the DoJ.

    “I have no relationship with Tony Rezko,” he said. Rogers, who describes himself as a big Democratic supporter, said he had often “run into” Rezko at political and public events but added: “I’ve never been to his office, I’ve never been to his home, I’ve never talked to him about my business.”

    Nevertheless, Rogers’s link to Rezko in federal evidence poses problems for Obama.

    Kent Redfield, an ethics expert and political science professor at the University of Illinois, said Obama is taking a political risk by letting Rogers play a prominent role…

  186. New poll numbers show Barack Obama’s lead over Johon McCain slipping among Minnesota voters.

    The exclusive 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS/SURVEY USA Poll shows Obama holding a one-point lead over McCain, with the margin of error at a statistical dead heat Tuesday.

    Just two weeks ago, Obama held a five-point lead in Minnesota.

    Nationally, it’s a slightly different story: A new ABC News poll has Obama ahead of McCain 48 to 42-percent.

    Obama’s lead is down a percentage point from one month ago.

  187. Culture of Corruption Ping! Obama backer Chris Dodd does not know what VIP program means. per the hill, unfortunately this dinosaur is not seeking reelection this year, so he will not have a primary challenger.

    Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) said he and his wife knew Countrywide Inc. was treating them as “VIP” customers when they refinanced mortgages on two homes in 2003, but it didn’t cross his mind he was getting a financial perk from the sub-prime lender.

    Dodd, who as chairman of the Senate Banking Committee oversees mortgage lenders, said he did not ask and Countrywide’s representatives did not say what the VIP treatment entailed.

    “We knew at the time that we were being dealt with within a special section of the company,” Dodd explained. “We really just assumed it was a courtesy, because we had an existing mortgage with them — two mortgages with them.”

    He noted that he and his wife, Jackie Clegg, were pre-existing customers with excellent credit. Clegg assumed that they were merely going to receive more attentive customer service, Dodd said.

    He said he had never sought nor had any knowledge of any special rate he was getting from Countrywide.

  188. Kostner, thanks for the heads up on Gore’s energy efficient home. Gee, these elitists sure want to save the world while everyone else suffers. If he is using more juice to run his home, how about of middle class families ask the john Kerry’s, the Al Gore’s to downsize their homes to save the planet. Gee, they want us little folks to pay $4. a gal. for gas while they slurp up all the planet’s energy for their own selfishness!!

  189. confloyd,

    actually, for me it’s perfect understandable his household energy usage is higher than ordinary families since he’s a celebrity and i assume he also does lots of work at home. But the most annoying thing for me is the following:

    In 2007, to a sensational reception the TCPR noted that the Gore family burned through energy at an amazing rate saying, “Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh — guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.”

    Not long after, Gore answered his critics on the website of Think Progress,

    Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

    1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.

    2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:

    What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

    The most telling aspect of the 2007 report about Gore’s energy use is that he never disputed the facts. He admitted that he used that much energy, but claimed that he was trying to bring that usage down.

    Well, we have waited a year to see the evidence of the Gore family’s efforts to bring that carbon footprint down to zero. And, with a follow up report, the TCPR decided to look into Al Gore’s usage of energy to see how well he did in improving his high energy use.

    Unfortunately for the king of global warming, he didn’t do so well.

    The new report shows Gore actually increased his energy use despite all the supposed efforts to make that ol’ carbon footprint equal “zero.”

    In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

    In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

    Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

  190. so al has been preaching breathlessly on his carbon-neutral mission over the past year, and asks everybody to live in cave. But how the earth did his own home’s energy consumption jump by 10% after taking all sorts of energy-reduction measures?

    This sounds like a dismal failure from a Messiah who claims he can save the earth.

  191. Hoo-rah! Boston Celtics NBA Champs.

    The Barack Hussein Obama of the NBA, Kobe Byant, was exposed for the fraud that he is.

    Like Obama, Kobe has enjoyed UNDESERVED media praising. And I have the FULL write-up (it is very long) I just did at my site. And, yes, I go into a detailed breakdown of how Bryant is just like Obama and how both have benefited from a biased, corrupt media. Read about it here (still editing the article, just put it up):

    Kobe Obama Bryant DESTROYED by Celtics

    Obama is a sexist, just as Kobe “Colorado” Bryant is. He is a punk, disdains ’sweeties,’ and sees women as little more than props for his would-be stick-man charms.

    The Barack Obamas and Kobe Bryants of this nation will destroy our country if we let them. FIGHT THE POWER, as Public Enemy would say. Fight back against the lying, disreputable, hagiography-penning MSM and help preserve our land from The Manchurian Candidate, Hussein Obama.

    DAMN! I’m fired up that the Celtics won! Woo-hoo!


    They all work. Not sure which one I like best. What a great visual to lauch a thousand ships.

  193. This morning, in her story “Slack Like Me,” Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy introduced you to the New York Times article that depicts the somewhat dilatory (dare we say lazy?) presumptive candidate as far too similar to another infamous slacker, the current POTUS. Tucked away in that NYT article is this tidbit:

    He is a careful reader of daily newspapers and magazines (titles from Foreign Affairs to Maxim are stocked on his campaign plane).

    Maxim magazine? A title surely chosen to convey the lusty fantasy world its readers dream of — where all the men are big and brawny and where all the women are oiled, tanned, young, curvy supplicants to their all-powerful male rulers. As a woman, it was difficult to endure the rampant sexism during the primaries, including Barack Obama’s own sexist comments about Hillary — “I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal” and “You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out.”

    How does a man like Barack Obama get the kind of mindset that makes him think it’s alright to make remarks like that against his female opponent? The mindset that reactively puts down any woman who aspires to be his true equal? Look at this screenshot of the home page of Obama’s favored reading material, with the drop-down (-to-your-knees) “GIRLS” menu. Not “WOMEN,” mind you, but “GIRLS” (click the image to see it full-size):

    A “sex-positive,” “anti-porn” feminist blog takes on the magazine in “Maxim 100 things you need to know about women….”

    Here is a sampler of that male mindset that was demonstrated in Obama’s sexist remarks about Hillary Clinton, and is rampant in Maxim magazine:

    Maxim online have come up with one hundred things men need to know about women… I’ve picked out a few…

    Number 87: “Your female co-workers are obsessed with the fact that on average they receive less pay than male counterparts–and the fact that they work less overtime and get pregnant is irrelevant to the discussion”

    Oh pardon us for ‘getting’ pregnant and having to care for our children, while you guys do ‘constructive overtime’…like coming up with 100 things men should know about women…

    Number 84: “Sixteen percent of American men have been with a prostitute—scientific proof most women are decent in bed”

    So men have sex with prostitutes cos some women are shit in bed..? Maybe they can’t be bothered to have sex with nobs like you cos they prefer a night in with their vibrator..? Oh wait…that would make it more than 16%…

    Number 62: “A British study claims a woman’s chances of getting married drop by 40 percent for every 16-point rise in her IQ. The same increase in IQ for a man boosted his chances of getting married by 35 percent”

    So what you are saying is that the greater IQ a woman has, the more likely she is to realise that marriage aint all that it’s cracked up to be..?

    Number 49: “They dream of one day peeing in a urinal”

    Umm…are you aware of the female anatomy..? (Read more.)

    Here’s the second screen at Maxim’s home page. It’s more of the same machismo / sexy “girls” / machismo / sexy “girls” / machismo / sexy “girls

  194. 3) John Podhoretz, discussing the disasterous Obama interview with ABC’s Jake Tapper, says Obama makes mistake after mistake when off the teleprompter. While he is masterful at delivering a prepared speech with the prompter, he gets into trouble one-on-one. Think he’ll agree to any townhall debates soon?

  195. 4) At realclearpolitics, an AP report says the DNC plans to sue to compel federal investigators to look at the McCain campaign. The DNC contends the McCain campaign violated election finance law.

    Oh jeez. More election lawyering. Just what we all want. . .

    5) And from the “holy crap” department: at, they have video of the Obamoids booooing the mention of Hillary just before the Gorical bestowed his blessings on the chosen one.

    Back at ya, Obamoids.

  196. LOL! I wonder, how many laws the BO campaign broke.

    People who live in glass houses, should not throw stones.

  197. Senator Claire McCaskill,
    After a very tiny sampling of the opinions of your fellow Missiourians, we can honestly say that the majority agree that the last thing, the VERY last thing they think when they hear a Michelle Obama speech or interview is that they are listening to a Harvard educated lawyer.
    That’s not what they dislike about her. And if you truly believe that, then we have season tickets to the Cardinal games at the old Busch Stadium we’d like to sell you.

    Sincerely yours,

    Smart Missouri Voters

  198. “All she (MO) has to do is be likeable,” Mrs. McCaskill said.

    Hey Mish. Dont take any crap off that mouthy (white) freshman cockroach senator from misssouri. What she needs is a good WWF smackdown.

    Time out: just who the hell is mckaskill to be telling mish to go to charm schoool?

  199. wbbeoi, …it takes one to know one or birds of a feather and all that when it comes to “charming” Claire and Michelle.

  200. 4) At realclearpolitics, an AP report says the DNC plans to sue to compel federal investigators to look at the McCain campaign. The DNC contends the McCain campaign violated election finance law
    Every election I have ever been involved in you get this strum and drang. It is boring and humorless and expensive and useless. Tilting windmills/

  201. Birdgal, Southern Born: ya got me on both counts. Speaking of visuals I am now looking like Robert Duran in the ring with Sugar Ray Leonard and all I can say is “no mas”.

  202. southern born: Maybe, Mish can be the experimental subject, and have it done in Chicago. Oprah can hold her hand throught the delicate procedure.

  203. I would like the federal investigators to investigate the trail of money to the BO campaign. The DNC should be careful, for what they wish for. People who live in glass houses, should not throw stones.

  204. I’m sure they must be doing personality transplants in Chicago….haven’t you heard BO say…Rev Wright…that’s not the pastor I knew. Tony Rezko, Father Pfiger…that’s not the guy I knew. There must be a huge demand for them up there.

  205. One more tid bit of what I am trying to get published in a foreign magazine that appears to be interested, but who knows:

    Now that Hillary has suspended her candidacy people are beginning to belatedly ask whether Big Media treated the first woman candidate to come this close to winning the nomination fairly. The New York Times put that question to Phil Griffin, Sr. Vice President of NBC recently on the assumption that it is moot. He gave his own network and its MSNBC affiliate a clean bill of health-except for some problems awhile back. I was glad to hear that because I have written five letters to him (and butt boy Capas) on that very subject which he never bothered to answer. Now at least I know his position, i.e. denial and cover-up. Let me respond: unless this bastard has been living in a cave in the Black Swan region of Pakistan frontier this past year he knows exactly what is going on. He knows that his bully boys Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman have been savaging Hillary for over a year and stacking their pundit panels with disingenuous Obama supporters. He knows he has received thousands of protest letters about the MSNBC in response to comments made by its pundits. And surely he remembers the picket against MSNBC by the National Organization of Women last year over the sexist comments by Matthews. Since these are memorable events even for a well insulated and stall-fed big shot like him, the only plausible inference is that he is a chronic and habitual liar. Lest we forget, this is the same network that staged the explosion of the GM vehicle on Dateline a few short years ago and was forced to pay massive damages on account of it. Obviously, we must look elsewhere for the truth.

  206. Southern Born: Soon, he’ll say,” That isn’t the Michelle that I knew.” Ayers: “He isn’t the true blue terrorist that I knew.”

  207. Birdgal…you bet.

    Seems like just about all the past associates in BO’s world are getting those “transplants” doesn’t it.

    BO would insist that he had no clue that Matthews, Olbermann and Company are sexists either if it were ever a problem for him also.

    I’m off to bed. Hope the visions of our charming state senator…Claire…do not intrude in my dreams/nightmares.

  208. 1950 Democrat: sent you a message on conference call tomorrow. If you did not see it pls check your email.

  209. I am sitting here really steamed over the way mccaskill insulted mish, and I dont think mish should take this one sitting down–no sir!

  210. Kostner wrote:

    Obama makes mistake after mistake when off the teleprompter. While he is masterful at delivering a prepared speech with the prompter, he gets into trouble one-on-one. Think he’ll agree to any townhall debates soon?

    I love how, on the same day that McCain challenged Obama to 10 town hall debates, David Plouffe started running his fat mouth about how, yeah! sure! Obama would LOVE to debate, anytime, anywhere… there was false bravado about how Obama actually wanted MORE than 10 debates, etc. Why? It was all to “win” the news cycle, knowing full well that the media would ignore the fact that later, Obama could slink off and weasel out of all the debates. Sure enough, the Obama camp now wants NOTHING to do with these town hall debates, knowing full well that McCain would destroy Bambi. Does the media call them out on it? Of course not…

  211. OK. I’ll play.

    McCaskill goes to the doctor for a transplant. The doctor looks her over carefully from a safe distance, and then he tells her what they always say when it comes to elective surgery, i.e. you are a good candidate for surgery. What I would recommend is a total mind and body transplant. All I need is your credit card number and whether you want me to start at the head or feet. You will be glad you had this done–and so will we.

  212. wbboei – Good luck on getting that foreign publication for yourself. They’d be lucky to have your work.

    Of course the DNC is going to try to lawyer McCain. Look at who their candidate is: Barack “I kicked them ALL off the ballot, including my mentor Alice Palmer” Obama.

  213. Berkley- I think mccain needs to be persistent in demanding these debates. Every chance he gets. The dymnaics will be boring as watching paint dry but I know mccain will land some great joe friday lines which will make headlines. Bambi on the other hand will go through the same nebulous non responsive circumlocutions we have seen in the past. Without Hillary in these debates there is no beauty, no drama, no poised intelligene and elevated discussion. Like I say its gonna be a bore–unless we can get mish and claire to provide some half time entertainment wwf style.

  214. Thanks Paul. I love all your tapes. They are really good. I bet you can guess my favorite. Yup. First Lady of Hate get my vote for the Oscar.

  215. wbboei, It has really been boring since Hillary dropped out, wonder if big media has noticed this too. That’s why they’ve spent all this time elevating Timmy to sainthood, its all about money!!

  216. Confloyd: yup and its still gong strong. I have even heard they may have to postpone the Peking Olympics so the pundits can finish this bracing discussion about that adonis-like figure from Buffalo, that protogee of Thomas Moore, that seeker of truth, that man for all seasons– fucking pumpkin head. Stop! Stop this minute! Have you no respect for the dead? Yes, but I have more respect for the truth and I remember him before he was a canonized.

  217. Still, I respect that others may not be as wary as I am of what Bambi has shown us so far and what that means for the country under his Presidency
    NYMax-if they have the same evidence in front of them that you and I do and they are not wary of him, then they need a brain transplant too. The only caveat is sometimes it takes time for them to come around and that I can respect as long as they are moving in the right direction. Some perceptive and obvjously intellignent individual suggested that Bwaaak may be a gangster. At first blush that sounds delusional, but if you study the record as a whole the suggestion is not nearly as far ferched as it first sounds,

  218. I have got to believe that the job of presidnet of the united states is not only the most difficult but the loneliest job in the world. It is way beyond my emotional and intellectual tolerances and I would not take it if it was offered much less spend 15 months campaigning for it. Neverthless I do understand why Hillary wants it and would be good at it–she knows what it is and has got what it takes. What I do not understand is why obama wants it. He is more like me–not up to it.
    The differnce between me and him is I understand that and he evidently does not.

  219. Thanks, wbboei. Much appreciated, particularly coming from someone of your ability.

    Michelle, as I’m sure you can tell, elicits an extremely strong reaction from me. It’s the same reaction she draws out of most normal, healthy people who love their country and who aren’t segregationists or ingrates. So that video was made with particular ‘love,’ if you will, on my part. There is a lot of emotion invested in that production.

    What’s so sad and wrong is that people try to portray my work (well, we all know how this goes with the Bambians and ourselves) as ‘racist.’ No. My work is anti-racist and I DESPISE racists. The problem for many of these Bambians and ignorant or misinformed white-guilt-bamboozled Latte Liberals is that Barack, Michelle and any other AA or anyone else is just as capable of being racist as anyone else is and they don’t like being called on their crap. Too bad. I have ZERO fear of these people and will expose every last racist, hate-speech incident they engage in or condone.

    As I’ve said before, I know people like Michelle and Barack. I went to school with them, spent a lot of time in the circles that people such as they spend time in. I know that world and I know how people like the Obamas think. It’s not an accident that they got married — they’re both radical, ‘typical white person’ clowns. They are, truly, made for one another.

    Michelle Obama, to me, is a racist. I believe it when Larry Johnson talks about the “Whitey” tape; this is how Michelle thinks and acts. There’s a reason why she seems like she is an ungrateful, bitter witch and it is simple: She is one.

    That’s why they hired her her own ‘duck tape on mouth’ person in the last week or so. She is a loose canon. She is not able to hide her disdain for people she sees as inferiors like Barack is (until he is in front of SF donors).

    Barack and Michelle are both elitists. They are both supremacists. They are both thug wannabes. Their cabal will tell you that racism means institutional blah blah blah who has power blah blah blah. All this crap means is that it’s supposed to inoculate AA’s from being able to be racists. Bullsh*t.

    AA’s can hate people of other ethnicities. They can discriminate against people of other ethnicities just as anyone else can. I’ll tell you this, and it would shock those who have not seen it up close, some of the worst feuds I have seen over the years were between African-Americans and Africans. But that is a subject for another post.

    Even using this convoluted, academic definition of racism, the Obamas are still more than qualified to be racists. If you’re down to the final 3 candidates for the US presidency, you have power. You have the ‘institutional’ control to hire Nation of Islam staffers, fire white staffers or whatever else you want to do. It’s a pretty good bet, in general, that if you’re walking around with 2 Ivy League degrees that you are eligible to be a racist irregardless of the standard being applied.

    I’m going to run for a bit. On the phone with West Coast bro.


  220. WaPo update on the DNC’s continued bilking of party members. The Obama/DNC axis is nothing but a money-sucking group of power-trippers, high on greed and following a “shock-and-awe” fundraising strategy, where no mountain of cash is ever big enough…

    Democratic Convention Host Lagging on Funds

    By Peter Slevin
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, June 18, 2008; A04

    DENVER — The committee that will host the Democratic National Convention announced this week that it is $10 million short of the $40.6 million it promised to raise by mid-June.

    Organizers of the Denver 2008 host committee blame the sluggish economy, the city’s limited corporate base and the distraction of the long Democratic primary fight, which Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) won less than two weeks ago.

    Colorado officials said they would come up with the money before the convention opens on Aug. 25, likely by tapping the power of Obama’s fundraising capabilities.

    “We have to raise $10 million or $11 million more. Now that we have the primary season over, it’s happening a lot faster, but it needs to happen a lot faster because the convention’s roaring up on us,” said Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-Colo.). “The campaign is now invested in making the whole thing a success.”

    The private host committee, which has beseeched corporate benefactors and private supporters, issued only a four-paragraph statement reporting the shortfall and describing “great anticipation and excitement building toward Denver’s hosting of this historic convention.” Chief spokesman Chris Lopez refused to answer questions.

    The last in an eight-city series of public presentations about the convention was held last week in a Denver bookstore, where organizers announced that more than 20,000 people had signed up as volunteers, including 5,000 from out of town — so many that jobs may need to be invented for them.

    The convention is also expected to attract protesters. A coalition of antiabortion groups, including Operation Rescue and the Christian Defense Coalition, intends to hold a series of prayer vigils and demonstrations. Protests are also expected by an organization called Re-create 68, a reference to the year when protests outside the Democratic convention in Chicago turned famously violent.

    Re-create 68 calls itself an association of “grassroots people who are tired of being sold out by the Democratic Party.” Its Web site calls on supporters to “[j]oin us in the streets of Denver as we resist a two-party system that allows imperialism and racism to continue unrestrained.”

    Denver authorities have created parade routes and demonstration zones, though they are farther from the delegates and the media than protesters sought. Law enforcement authorities are offering assurances that order will be kept.

    “Certainly, we all want to honor free speech,” Perlmutter said in a telephone interview. “But we also know security becomes more and more important.”

    Denver has planned to spend tens of millions allocated by the federal government on security. The secrecy of its plans has prompted a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union, which aims to learn how the money is being spent. While ACLU attorneys contend that the policy violates the state’s open records act, city authorities say the information could compromise safety.

    The Rocky Mountain News reported Tuesday that Denver police ordered 88 launchers that fire a substance akin to pepper spray. The cost of the launchers and the projectiles, the newspaper said, was in the low six figures.

  221. I just read the post about Hill being booed at a Obama rally. Why can’t they just leave her alone. They’re just compounding our anger and making us more resilient about not voting for their Messiah
    The more this happens the less of these joint appearances there will be. This is a big embarrassnent to obama, since it is his people doing the booing and he asked for her help. All he would have needed to do is warn the crowd to be civil beforehand and this could have been avoided. He has no clue what he is doing. In other words this may not be as bad as you think.
    He talks about unity and every time there is an opportunity to promote it either he or someone on his staff overreaches. PSD is another dumb move unless he is trying to send some message. This whole thing for him is a tiger by the tail and he can inspire his coalition but he cannot control it.

  222. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
    Obama is using Solis -Doyle to gain Latino favor and learn Hillary’s weaknesses imo…..
    I question how much traction PSD really has with the hispanic community except perhaps in chicago. I just think this is another dumb move by bo campaign.

  223. June 17th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    fox also reports HRC and BO to “meet” next thursday to discuss why BO’s campaign is not reaching out to hillary’s supporters
    There is a term for it in divorce court: irreconcilable differences–which are grounds for divorce. That is what we have here now and for the foreseeable future. If Obama is the nominee and he loses in november then there will be a big debate like the who lost china debate of the early 50s, so Hillary has to be seen as doing everythin she can to support him, and that little booing epsiode by his supporters is useful because it may relieve her of that responsibilty in the future. I am just not sure I have the stomach for it.

  224. Larry Sinclair at National Press Club 1-5 pm TODAY to expose BHO for the liar and fraud that he is. Last-minute attempts by Big Media corruption and collusion to discredit Sinclair.

    Go the LS website for moral support. Whatever you many think of LS and his story, the execution-style deaths of the TUCC choir director and two other black, gay church members within 40 days of each other spells cover-up and hit jobs. That is indisputable. The communication between the murdered choir director to Sinclair ties the whole thing together.

    He and Pastor Manning and the National Press Club should be applauded for doing the job that NO MEDIA OUTLET will touch, including FOX News.

    Please show you support which ultimately aids our cause as well.

  225. wbboei: “fox also reports HRC and BO to “meet” next thursday to discuss why BO’s campaign is not reaching out to hillary’s supporters”

    That can’t be. Surely there is no problem in getting Hillary’s supporters to support BO. After all, he is on record saying his supporters would not vote for her, but her supporters would vote for him.

    To suggest otherwise is to claim BO lies, or at least gets things wrong. The messiah doesn’t make mistakes. Maybe the MSM is spreading this stuff.

    I’m sure she will give him useful advice, but I hope it doesn’t work.

  226. Obama cousin to visit US
    Obama ignores him Is Obama throwing Odinga under the bus.

  227. Obama’s crowd booing Hillary is totally “in character” for what most of us have witnessed throughout this long campaign: that most of his supporters could care less about unity. They have received no leadership from him as to how to act toward his opponent, Senator Clinton, and he can give none since he was patronizing and condescending toward her throughout the campaign. He never, correct me if I am wrong, made a strong statement about how Senator Clinton was being bashed and trashed by the media even though he had plenty of opportunities. Instead, he capitalized on this, speaking about her “periodic” mood changes when she gets “down”, insinuating that she doesn’t have the right to her own anger or sadness without being characterized as moody…He can provide no leadership to his supporters as to how to act with respect and dignity because he is clueless. This is simply unacceptable in a candidate for President.

  228. But never fear, Clair McCaskill is gonna give us all likeability lessons. Hope that comes out on DVD.

  229. Apparently, a group of 10 women senators have formed a group called, “Women for Change.” Boxer, Caskill, and Miluski spoke about it, on Morning Joe, according to a poster on The Confluence. Where were these women, when Hillary was getting battered everyday? What a bunch of hypocrites and weak women. I will never, ever, vote for Boxer again. And, I used to like her. I hate the word “Change.” Things are changing for the worse.

  230. I agree birdgal, we should have long memories of the women who did NOT support Hillary when it counted but are more than willing to gain from all of what Hillary went through.

    This is why it so irritates me so much when articles state that Hillary opened the doors for other women. Yes, other women who did not support Hillary. Young women who have actively trashed Hillary when it counted.

    It should be Hillary who gains from the work she has done not other women. Hillary For President!

  231. dedfg: I am so disgusted by this entire primary. BO has created more divisiveness, racial divide, ageism, sexism, degradation of women, during this primary season. I am appalled, at how far back, his campaign has thrown us. He scares me, more than McCain.

  232. So in other words, Obama has had more than two weeks to try and woo Hillary’s supporters to his side.

    Can someone tell me what/if any steps he has taken to achieve this? Did he just assume that his god-like ego would be enough to move 18,000 voters into his cult?

    Does this suggest that he and his team are running scared? They thought they could do this without Hillary/tried to shut her out completely. Let his minions continue to attack and boo without coming to her defense?

    Too little, too late is my humble opinion.

  233. Obama National Security Adviser: No, We Can’t Beat The Terrorists. It’s Too Hard And It Hurts.
    Another Day, Another Obama Aide. Not The Richard Danzig Obama Knew?

    No day is complete without an Obama aide doing something that Barack Obama will sooner or later have to disavow, and this time it’s an old favorite variety: the foreign press quoting a national security adviser speaking the counsel of defeatism:

    Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton and is tipped to become National Security Adviser in an Obama White House, told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

    Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”


    In a subtle break from Mr Bush’s belief that the war on terror can be won, Mr Danzig, who is a Pentagon adviser on bioterrorism, warned that while the West can defeat individual terrorist groups and plots, it can never entirely remove the threat posed by nuclear proliferation or the prospect of bioterrorism.

    Read On…

    Pooh Bear is a justly beloved children’s character, but of course the Hundred Acre Wood is never inhabited by by anything more menacing than bees and bad dreams (either of which is more than a match for the gentle-hearted Pooh). Not exactly the mental image most folks need at a time when you have Obama supporters lauding him as the antidote to tough guys and action heroes. It seems so long ago, does it not, that the Democrats would nominate a man who could say (and mean) things like this:

    Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

    This much we pledge – and more.

    To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do—for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder.

    Barack Obama would say to John F. Kennedy: No, we can’t.

  234. I’m assuming the rest of you got the personal letter this week from BHO requesting donations? (I guess from Hillary’s mailing list). I hope everyone takes the time to write on the donation form (right after “Yes, I agree”) HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.

    And then send the form back in the postage-paid envelope so his campaign is stuck with the postage.

  235. Winnie the Pooh? Jeez….. They need to come up with better metaphors. This gets scarier and scarier everyday. We need Hillary.

  236. Jan: he is courting evangelicals. Maybe, he thinks, this will make up for the defectors. Who knows?

  237. Obama throws another one under the bus. Disgusting indeed!!

    Muslims barred from picture at Obama event

    Two Muslim women at Barack Obama’s rally in Detroit Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women’s headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.

    The campaign has apologized to the women, all Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.

    “This is of course not the policy of the campaign. It is offensive and counter to Obama’s commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “We sincerely apologize for the behavior of these volunteers.”

    Building a human backdrop to a political candidate, a set of faces to appear on television and in photographs, is always a delicate exercise in demographics and political correctness. Advance staffers typically pick supporters out of a crowd to reflect the candidate’s message.

    When Obama won North Carolina amid questions about his ability to connect with white voters, for instance, he stood in front of a group of middle-aged white women waving small American flags. Across the aisle, a Hispanic New Hampshire Democrat, Roberto Fuentes, told Politico that he was recently asked, and declined, to contribute to the “diversity” of the crowd behind Senator John McCain at a Nashua event.

    But for Obama, the old-fashioned image-making contrasts with his promise to transcend identity politics, and to embrace all elements of America. The incidents in Michigan, which has one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations in the country, also raise an aspect of his campaign that sometimes rubs Muslims the wrong way: The candidate has vigorously denied a false, viral rumor that he himself is Muslim. But the denials seem to some at times to imply that there something wrong with the faith, though Obama occasionally adds that he means no disrespect to Islam.

    “I was coming to support him, and I felt like I was discriminated against by the very person who was supposed to be bringing this change, who I could really relate to,” said Hebba Aref, a 25-year-old lawyer who lives in the Detroit suburb of Bloomfield Hills. “The message that I thought was delivered to us was that they do not want him associated with Muslims or Muslim supporters.”

    In Detroit Monday the two different Obama volunteers – in separate incidents– made it clear that headscarves wouldn’t be in the picture. The volunteers gave different explanations for excluding the hijabs, one bluntly political and the other less clear.

    In Aref’s case, there was no ambiguity.

    That incident began when the volunteer asked Aref’s friend Ali Koussan and two other friends, Aref’s brother Sharif and another young lawyer, Brandon Edward Miller, whether they would like to sit behind the stage. The three young men said they would, but mentioned they were with friends.

    The men said the volunteer, a twenty-something African American woman in a green shirt, asked if their friends looked and were dressed like the young men, who were all light-skinned and wearing suits. Miller said yes, but mentioned that one of their friends was wearing a headscarf with her suit.

    The volunteer “explained to me that because of the political climate and what’s going on in the world and what’s going on with Muslim Americans it’s not good for her to be seen on TV or associated with Obama,” said Koussan, who is a law student at Wayne State University.

    Both Koussan and Miller said they specifically recalled the volunteer citing the “political climate” in telling them they couldn’t sit behind Obama.

    “I was like, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me. Are you serious?'” Koussan recalled.

    Shimaa Abdelfadeel’s story was different. She’d waited on line outside the Joe Louis Arena for three hours in the sun, and was walking through the giant hall when a volunteer approached two of her non-Muslim friends, a few steps ahead of her, and asked if they’d like to sit in “special seating” behind the stage, said one friend, Brittany Marino, who like Abdelfadeel is a recent University of Michigan graduate who works for the university.

  238. This is so scary…… Obama gets to make up shit and no one in the press calls him on it! WHY?????????????????
    Iam so sick of this prick from kenya…….we have got to take him down! I sure hope Larry Sinclair has what it takes
    and delivers it today at 3pm ET at his NPC !!

    And yet another flareup of the Barack Obama Natsec Ignorance Field.
    By Moe Lane Posted in Archived — Comments (12) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

    As part of what is turning out to be a darn fine interview by Jake Tapper, the junior Senator from Illinois had this to say:

    And, you know, let’s take the example of Guantanamo. What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks — for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.

    As Confederate Yankee (link currently bad: go to the main site and scroll down to “Obama Gaffes Again”) notes (Via AoSHQ), there’s a small problem with that argument – and by “small problem with that argument,” of course, I mean “a giant gaping hole in the narrative that reminds us why treating terrorist activities as being solely criminal matters is a breathtakingly stupid notion.”

    Though grossly neglected in the media, Abdul Rahman Yasin conducted the first attempted chemical weapons attack on U.S. soil by terrorists with the 1993 World Trade Center bomb. The bomb that detonated in the WTC garage in 1993 was built by Yasin to create smoke filled with sodium cyanide, which he hoped would rise through elevator shafts, ventilation ducts, and stairwells to suffocate 50,000 people.


    Yasin fled the United States after the bombing to Iraq, and lived as Saddam Hussein’s guest in Baghdad until the invasion. He is still free, and wanted by the FBI.

    Given that the FBI actually let him go in the first place, I imagine so. Does Senator Obama ever check any of this stuff? – because these are stupid mistakes, and easily avoidable ones. For that matter, what the heck’s wrong with his staff? They should be giving him better prep work than this.

  239. This is crazy. Obama is the most divisive, racist xxx i’ve never seen. I really want to use profanity after reading the report.

    Gosh, anybody who’s supporting this guy is throwing their own rights into the wolf’s mouth.

  240. Zogby polls always show him ahead as he is freindly with James Zogby the Arabs rights guy….when I se pics of people next to Obama you can tell they are simply caught in cult of personality. The man is a socialist with maxist leanings. He wants to redistribute wealth and destroy capitalism among other things.

  241. From an April report:
    While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama. The Tartan’s correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, “Get me more white people, we need more white people.” To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, “We’re moving you, sorry. It’s going to look so pretty, though.”
    “I didn’t know they would say, ‘We need a white person here,’ ” said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. “I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn’t know it would be so outright.”

  242. Hillfans, Huckabee wants us to worship Barack.

    Huckabee: Demonizing Obama is a ‘fatal mistake’

  243. People seemingly are afraid of him….and for good reason. This is truly a sad chapter in American history when an empty suit being controlled by the puppets masters will ruin our nation.

  244. My real question is whether we here are a minority or will at least 10% or moreof the 18 million just say “No”….

  245. It would make a huge statement if a large number of Hillary’s funders refuse this invitation.


    I would think that Bo’s numbers would be much better if there had been a huge move over into his camp. My understanding is that he didn’t get the “bump” you normally get when you defeat your opponent.

    Then again, who can tell what will happen from now until August/November.

  246. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    My real question is whether we here are a minority or will at least 10% or moreof the 18 million just say “No”….

    We can start a poll here. e-mail your friends

    1. neetabug supporting John McCain (Ohio)
    2. My sisters (3)
    3. My neighbor and her kids (6)
    4. Church members i have asked (10)
    5. Volunteer Group (10)
    6. Hillary supporters i worked with in Campaign (30)
    7. Will add more later

  247. djia,

    I pray you are right. It will definitely send the right message.

    I would add myself to your poll…lol…but I am a Canadian so I don’t think it helps! 🙂

  248. 3 in my house hold will be voting for mc cain if not hillary

    along with 2 friends in south dakota ….

    the MSM has already reported that 25% of HRC supporters will not vote for obama
    I expect that number to grow as time goes on and obama gets vetted

    and…… we all know how “OFF” the MSM has been on polling ……so i would expect that 25% is more likely 50% in reality right now.

  249. kostner Says:

    June 17th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    this is so unbearable. just read Michelle Obama version 2.0 is about to roll out next week. I want to throw up…

    In coming weeks, Mrs. Obama will unveil a new speech, emphasizing her modest background and family ties. She will visit the spouses of military personnel and talk of the country’s patriotic duty to provide these families with care and services. And Stephanie Cutter, who was Senator John Kerry’s communications director during his 2004 presidential bid, is being hired as her chief of staff, to oversee a rapid-response operation to deflect attacks on Mrs. Obama.

    Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, a close ally of the Obama campaign, says Mrs. Obama must stop sounding like a lawyer trying to win an argument. The trick, she said, is “being friendly and outgoing but not pushing so hard to persuade people that Barack is the right one.”

    “All she has to do is be likeable,” Mrs. McCaskill said.
    How insulting is Team Obama that people will won’t be able to see through all this crap? This is just another photo op stunt and after 8 years of GWB people are just tired of the phony p.r. tricks.

  250. per noquarter:

    Harriet Christian Lets it Rip! (New FOX Interview) »
    By TexasDarlin on June 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM
    “I am basically voting for Senator McCain because I am so disenchanted with the Democratic party.”
    Harriet Christian is no slouch, as she proves in this new interview on FOX/Cavuto. Last Saturday Harriet attended a townhall meeting with John McCain, along with other Hillary supporters. Here she explains why she’s decided to support McCain if the Democratic party nominates Barack Obama…(and there’s a bonus photo after the video!)…

    Turn the page for the bonus photo.
    That’s a good question Harriet asks: If Obama is so pro-woman, why did he go after Alice Palmer and get her kicked off the ballot back in Illinois?
    Barack doesn’t get it. It ain’t about “women’s issues” soundbites. He seems to think that threats of having Roe v. Wade reversed will persuade women to vote for him. He doesn’t get that it’s about his arrogant obnoxious behavior, his frightening lack of experience, and the disrespect demonstrated by the Democratic party for Hillary Clinton and her supporters.
    And now for the bonus photo…Here’s Harriet with John McCain at last Saturday’s event. Thanks to Nobama for the picture.

  251. “All she has to do is be likeable,” Mrs. McCaskill said.

    Like I said, before, it isn’t possible.

  252. Obama is a COWARD and his actions show this time and time again. The problem is that at least I thought the Democratic Leadership had some GUTS but all they’ve shown me is how JEALOUS and ENVIOUS of the Clintons.

    So this BLACK DEMOCRAT will do what I did for Gov. GREY DAVIS of CALIFORNIA and vote for a REPUBLICAN AND TELL everybody to VOTE for JOHN McCain.

  253. kostner, if they have hired some PR person to make her look good, then they are expecting that tape to be out soon. They want to make her look as good as they can now, as to lighten the bad effect the tape will have when it comes out.

    I think the DNC is going to nominate him regardless of what happens because they are afraid of the AA’s rioting and joining the republicans in the future to beat them!

  254. With the gay marriage issue on the ballot, it will be interesting to see, how much the conservative base is galvanized, and how this might translate into more votes for McCain. What do you think?

  255. ok hillfans……..hold down the fort!

    I need to go sort, clean and pack in the garage’s today 🙁

    will be around later! 😀

  256. JUST -SO U GUYS CAN WATCH IT TOO — will be on CNN with Wolf at 4 -5pm


    Attention all: I will not be able to post any additional comment until late this afternoon. I have been invited by CNN to do a interview on their news network. This will air between 4 and 5 pm today on the Situation room with Wolf. It will then be picked up and ran on CNN international, going around the world. Would someone please capture this and post it on youtube and email me a link.
    Today is our Independence Day. Today we take back our country. Ed

  257. ——————————————————————————–

    The gifts just keep coming. How horrible for these women.…terstitialskip

    Two Muslim women at Barack Obama’s rally in Detroit Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women’s headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate,” The Politico’s Ben Smith reports.

    According to Ben:

    The campaign has apologized to the women, all Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.

    “This is of course not the policy of the campaign. It is offensive and counter to Obama’s commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “We sincerely apologize for the behavior of these volunteers.”

    Former vice president Al Gore formally endorsed Obama at that Monday rally.

  258. Michelle was on the view today, apparently she co-hosted it. They say some news was made there, I wonder what it was??

  259. Cindy McCain seen in more favorable light than Michelle Obama
    Posted: 10:15 AM ET

    From CNN’s Emily Sherman

    A new poll shows Americans see Cindy McCain in a more positive light than Michelle Obama.
    (CNN)—In a comparison between the wives of the presumptive Republican and Democratic nominees, Americans know more about Michelle Obama than Cindy McCain, but not necessarily in a positive way according to a new poll.

    WATCH Michelle Obama discuss her husband and the campaign

    In the latest Pew research poll conducted June 13 through 16, 78 percent have heard a least a little bit about the wife of Barack Obama, but up to 26 percent of those said the coverage of Michelle Obama has been mostly negative. In contrast, 54 percent of those surveyed claim to know a little bit about Cindy McCain and of those polled 31 percent say the coverage they have seen has been mostly positive, while only 7 percent felt she has been represented negatively.

    The results, tallied from approximately 1,000 adults over the age of 18 with a sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 points show the overall image of the two is positive among their respective parties. 54 percent of Republicans surveyed hold a favorable view of John McCain’s wife, while 65 percent of Democrats have a positive view of Barack Obama’s wife.

    Any guesses on why ??

    ha ha ask any kid to see michelle talk —kid will say “`that auntie is mean “`

  260. I think the DNC is going to nominate him regardless of what happens because they are afraid of the AA’s rioting and joining the republicans in the future to beat them!
    Please this is NOT about AAs this is about the HARD Left (communist, marxists and socialist with Black Nationists) and Anti-War crowd making a pact to take control of the DNC…it’s has always been about the policies being promoted. They think the Clintons have sold out and they demonized them when in fact it was all about Sexism, Jealousy and Envy.

    The unbridle glee and joy from some of the same “Kiss Asses,” that they broke the Clinton, show you their true faces. This is NOT what is best for ALL AMERICANS but what is best for some without the work involved in getting there.

    So their actions so little trust that their words is indicative of their actions.

    James 2:17 “Even so faith without works is dead.” Better yet the International Standard, ” In the same way, faith by itself, if it does not prove itself with actions, is dead.”

    In other words: “Don’t believe the Hype.”

  261. Obama: NAFTA not so bad after all

  262. Michelle Obama Defends Patriotism, Praises Clinton on ‘The View’
    Wednesday, June 18, 2008

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    Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, a popular draw but also a lightning rod on the Democratic presidential campaign trail, defended her patriotism and praised her husband’s former Democratic rival during an appearance on ABC’s “The View” Wednesday.

    The appearance gave Mrs. Obama, who is not running for office on her own, the chance to build her image and acquaint the public with her background and personality. It came after a guest-hosting gig by John McCain’s wife, Cindy, in April.

    Obama has taken flak for saying in February that she was proud of her country for the first time, but on Wednesday she said her pride in her country was not a new thing.

    FOR sure -she said something good for the first time in her adult life about hillary clinton —is she proud of it or was she forced to do so ?

  263. correction: So their action produce so little trust that their words is not indicative of their actions.


    “As some Republicans see it, Democrats are deliberately talking in code about the presumptive 71-year-old GOP nominee as part of an attempt to highlight his age.

    “It is code; there is no question it is,” Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist who helped lead President Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign, said when age surfaced as an issue. “They are trying to raise doubts.”

    MSNBC host Joe Scarborough repeatedly argued on his show last week that the Obama campaign was portraying McCain as a “doddering, old, confused fool. He needs to go to Miami Beach and play checkers.”

  265. meiyingsu Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
    Obama: NAFTA not so bad after all

    Be sure, the people in Ohio, PA, IN, and other states that have been impacted by NAFTA are aware of this.

    The hypocrisy, never ceases to amaze me. What else is campaign rhetoric? Hope? Change? I think, we already know the answers.

  266. Fron hillaryclintonforum—just pasting it here

    Want to reach people who don’t read blogs and forums? Great fliers for distributing everywhere!


    Below is a link for some great fliers from the puma site. Take a look at the url below.

    Just think if thousands of us put these fliers in some of the locations listed below and beyond….it could make a huge difference! Remember some people only listen to MSM(ug).

    Here is the link:
    You can place the fliers in all sorts of places…like:

    Poster signs on street corners
    Teller machines
    Restroom stalls
    Bulletin Boards in laundry mats, grocery stores, college boards
    Coffee shops
    Bus stops
    Railway stations
    Waiting rooms
    Community centers
    Business seminars
    ….be creative!


  267. Michelle wore the worst dress on the view this am. She looked ridiculous and she looked liked someone who just stepped of the “mothership”.
    She still looked mean and arogant!

  268. FOR sure -she said something good for the first time in her adult life about hillary clinton —is she proud of it or was she forced to do so ?
    She was forced to do so by those greedy backstabbing males. Michele Obama doesn’t mean anything….HER HUSBAND Barack H. Obama said it all with the Hiring of Patti Solis-Doyle as the V.P. Chief of Staff…that was a direct INSULT of arrogance along with the race baiting tactic and throwing WOMEN RIGHTS OFF THE BUS IN THE BEGINNING.

    The Democrats ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY and are MORALLY BANKRUPTED by elevating that KNOWN corruped Chicago Political Machine on a National Level.

  269. confloyd Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    Michelle wore the worst dress on the view this am. She looked ridiculous and she looked liked someone who just stepped of the “mothership”.
    She still looked mean and arogant!

    ARE you surprised ?

    she is always mean and arrogant -she is nothing like HALLE BARRY –OPRAH –BEYONCE–TYRA BANKS —

    those women ,they are so sweet and down to earth ,they r never arrogant ,eventhough i was upset about oprah endorsing obama but still —may be michelle can learn something from these women .

  270. “All she has to do is act nice.” She is going to try and emulate Hillary in every way possible.

  271. Bitter half alert: Michelle Obama’s makeover and View debut; Update: “It’s fun to look pretty!;” Pantyhose or no pantyhose?; “Empathetic,” not “pathetic”

    She’s baaaaaaack. On the front page of the NYTimes. On The View at 11:00am Eastern with Barbara Walter’s gabbling gals.

    But don’t you dare breathe a negative word about anything she says, you hear?

    You racists! You mean, wife-beating conservative Thuglicans!

    Not that we need to watch The View to predict the softball questions they’ll ask. Here, I will save you the time:

  272. AN OBAMA LIE!

    I am now reading the article called, Barry-O-Bomber and I found one particular passage must revealing. But before I quote it, I ask you to recall the part of his speeches (always the same one, by the way, but with a slight twist) where he says: You know many people have asked me why I am running (including his wife) and why now, he will say. Then he adds, I am not running because of some long held ambition; but rather because of what Martin Luther said about the fierce urgency of now, he would tell us.

    Well—here in this document the following is revealed to us:

    “Third-grade teacher Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, has perhaps the most telling story. In an essay about what he wanted to be when he grew up, Obama “wrote he wanted to be president,” Sinaga recalled. “He didn’t say what country he wanted to be president of. But he wanted to make everybody happy.”

    obamawtf credits: “Kirsten Scharnberg reported from Honolulu and Kim Barker from Jakarta, Indonesia; Tribune staff reporter Ray Gibson contributed to this report.”

  273. Someone wrote this on some other blog –kinda funny –its about michelle, s view appearance –

    ““Didn’t watch but imagining:
    …..MO thinks to herself…..
    “Yes I have been a racist and I must say I was shocked that so many white Americans support my husband and me ….. I need to rethink this ….. Nahhhh, they want somethin……..
    Baba Wawa = Whitey
    Sherri = Sista
    Joy = Whitey
    Whoopi = Sista
    Elizabeth = Whitey Cracka”

  274. # neetabug Says:
    June 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    jbstonesfan Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    My real question is whether we here are a minority or will at least 10% or moreof the 18 million just say “No”….

    We can start a poll here. e-mail your friends

    1. neetabug supporting John McCain (Ohio)
    2. My sisters (3)
    3. My neighbor and her kids (6)
    4. Church members i have asked (10)
    5. Volunteer Group (10)
    6. Hillary supporters i worked with in Campaign (30)
    7. Will add more later

    Supposedly 25% (or more) of Clinton supporters won’t support Obama. Even if half change their minds, and go back into the Democratic fold, that’s still 12 – 13 %. I want to win CA for McCain, that would be the end of Obama’s candidacy.

    HillFans4McCain in NJ:

    1. me
    2. Wife
    3. Friend from bar

  275. rgb44hrc Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
    # neetabug Says:
    June 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    jbstonesfan Says:

    June 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    My real question is whether we here are a minority or will at least 10% or moreof the 18 million just say “No”….

    We can start a poll here. e-mail your friends

    1. neetabug supporting John McCain (Ohio)
    2. My sisters (3)
    3. My neighbor and her kids (6)
    4. Church members i have asked (10)
    5. Volunteer Group (10)
    6. Hillary supporters i worked with in Campaign (30)
    7. Will add more later

    Supposedly 25% (or more) of Clinton supporters won’t support Obama. Even if half change their minds, and go back into the Democratic fold, that’s still 12 – 13 %. I want to win CA for McCain, that would be the end of Obama’s candidacy.

    HillFans4McCain in NJ:

    1. me
    2. Wife
    3. Friend from bar

    sonia —CA

    father -father in law-mother-mother in law (4)
    sisters and sisters in law (5)
    brother and BROTHER IN LAWS (4)
    employees @hubby,s warehouse (10)
    neighbors (10-15)
    my son,s teachers (2)

    these are all the people who watched election closely and were fed info by me about sexism and media bias ,

    so about 37-42 so far
    And i am still working on it

    By novemeber –i wanna have at least 2,000 people confirmed who will vote for mccain —–u know through my family ,employees,friends –I am gonna try —-

  276. obama -joke-

    A teacher in Elmira , New York asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans.

    Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher,all the kids raised their hands except for Little Franky Masterson

    The teacher asked Little Franky why he has decided to be different.

    Little Franky says, ‘Because I’m not an Obama fan.’

    The teacher says, ‘Why aren’t you an Obama fan?’

    Franky says, ‘Because I’m a Republican.’

    The teacher asks him why he’s a Republican.

    Little Franky answered, ‘Well, my mom’s a Republican and my dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican’

    The teacher asks, ‘If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?’

    With a big smile, Little Franky replies, ‘That would make me an Obama fan .’

  277. joke

    At a recent rural elementary school meeting in North Texas, Barack Hussein Obama asked the audience for total quiet.

    Then in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands once every few seconds, holding the audience in total silence.

    Then he said into the microphone, “Every time I clap my hands a child in America dies from gun violence.”

    Little Johnny, with a proud Texas Drawl, pierced the quiet!

    “Well, stupid,…… stop clapping!”

  278. In CA: all these were dems before!

    my neighbour – 1
    my sister and her extended family – 10
    my brother and his extended family – 4
    my campagin colleagues – 15 so far!

    We need a great CA Latino in our group for…any volunteers!!!!

  279. mp,

    are they all for Mccain now?

    all my freinds and people I talked to in my Church about 100 are for Mccain?

  280. “The Difference”

    John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barrack Obama were walking down a Washington DC street when they came upon a homeless man.

    John McCain gave the man his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took $20 out of his pocket and gave it to the man.

    Hillary was very impressed, so when they came upon another homeless man, she decided to help. She walked over to him gave him directions to the welfare office, gave her business card, gave him $30, and told him to call for a job and how to ensure he could get medical benefits.

    When they came upon yet another homeless man, Barak told him to “have hope….change is coming” and gave him nothing.

  281. REPORTER (to Barack Obama): At the Academy Awards, Jon Stewart made fun of the fact that your last name, Obama, sounds like Osama, the name of the most hated man on the planet. What is your reaction?

    BARACK OBAMA: Besides the unfortunate name similarity, Osama Bin-Laden and I have nothing in common. One of us is a confident, ethnic man with devoted supporters and a clear vision for the future, and the other is about to be elected President.

  282. NPC Day Book: Event Details
    Event Name: Larry Sinclair on Obama
    Event Date: June 18, 2008
    Event Type: News Conference
    Time: 3:00 PM
    Sponsored by: Veritas Federal Media
    Event Location: Holeman Lounge
    Details: Larry Sinclair on Barack Obama
    There will be a Pre-Registration for Press beginning at 1:00pm. All press must show media credentials and must obtain an event press pass to enter the event.

    Washington, D.C. – Despite death threats and an organized campaign to prevent him from speaking publicly, Larry Sinclair — on June 18, 2008, at 3:00 PM (Sign in begins at 1:00 PM) in the Holeman Lounge of the National Press Club, 529 14th Street NW, Washington, DC 20045, will for the first time reveal the corroborating evidence for his claim that on November 6 + 7, 1999, Larry: (i) met Obama at a gay bar where Barrack Obama arranged for the purchase of federal Schedule II drugs, (ii) which Larry and Obama thereafter ingested and (iii) then engaged in hi-risk, homosexual activities.

    Larry’s story burst on to the scene on January 18, 2008, when Larry released a short video containing these allegations on That video has had close to a million views yet the mainstream media has completely ignored Larry’s serious allegations. Thereafter, a clearly orchestrated campaign to discredit Larry began on the internet which forced Larry to resort to federal court to protect his reputation.

    At the press conference, Larry will (i) reveal the corroborating evidence for his allegations regarding Obama, (ii) address the time-line of the response of the Obama campaign to his allegations and the murder of Donald Young, the openly gay choir director of Trinity United Church of Christ, Obama’s now-former church and (iii) the significance of the refusal of U.S. District Court Judge Henry H. Kennedy, Jr. to allow Larry’s case to proceed.

    Contact: Montgomery Sibley
    Outlook Reminder
    This event is not affiliated with the National Press Club or the Eric Friedheim Library.

  283. The MSM saying he does not need Hillary as Independents are going his way in key states…the propaganda continues.

  284. MSM SAID “ hillary was finished after iowa “`

    MSM ,, we all know,they r in tank for obama “`

    so –ignoreeeeeeeeeee them .

  285. Joke

    What is true happiness?


    Opening the refrigerator door and seeing Barack Obama’s face on a milk carton.

  286. I am so glad Hillary and Bill did not show up for Obama friend Tim Russert’s memorial today….he truly was a Clinton hater .

  287. Michelle wore the worst dress on the view this am. She looked ridiculous and she looked liked someone who just stepped of the “mothership”.
    She still looked mean and arogant
    Confloyd you are good. Where is Robin Givhan now? As the fashion editor for the Washington Post she was willing to comment freely on Hillarys attire whereas now she has grown stangely silent about Mish. If I did not know better I would be tempted to say Givhan is a hypocritical piece of shit.

  288. wbboei, The dress was shiny silver/black for pete’s sake. That isn’t what the girls on that show wear. For heaven’s sake it was an evening outfit.
    I had CNN on for a couple of minutes and about vomited, sorry, I can’t watch it long enough to watch Ed Hale on it.

    I will be sticking to Fox, right now they are slicing and dicing MO, over her rehearsed speech on how Hillary was treated during the election.

    Cnn was talking about Laura Bush and how much all loved her. THey also brought up how everyone hated Hillary and how much of a change Laura was compared to Hillary. It maked me sick, its like comparing apples and oranges. For heavensake, Hillary is scarey smart and Laura is a sweet homemaker type, you freaking can’t compare the two. What assholes! I have a friend I met at my little hospital that knew personally Bill and Hillary. She told me that Hillary is smarter than Bill, why in the hell doesn’t the news media talk about how smart and beautiful she is. How about talking about how much grace she has had under extreme fire from the media! This country’s media is sick, sick, sick and we the American people are going to pay a huge price for this crappy media!! I never thought I would say thankGod for FOX!!!

  289. There is a person on hcsfjm wanting to know who Hillary’s contributors are so they can try and stop them from raising money for Obama. The information I think is on WhiteHouseForSale on the net. It has all the bundlers names and the names of their companies. I wonder if there is any other way to find out who the big money people are??

  290. S, I have noticed the media is trying desparately to compare Michelle O to Jackie O. It is so freaking ridiculous. Come on Jackie O was beautiful. Michelle Obama is not even comparable. She just has average looks. She is not what I consider a beautiful black woman. SHe is no Halley Barry!

  291. I think she is an attractive woman, however she comes across very tough and with a big chip on her shoulder…

  292. Michelle Obama you are no Jackie Kennedy.
    Jackie is probably turning over in her grave.

    She walks like her feet weigh a ton.

    She is not all that

  293. Wednesday, June 18, 2008
    Question of the Day, Filed Under “Are There Any Journalists Left?”
    Here’s another something interesting we have been reading, in one form or another, on various blogs — and, oddly, none of them are Hillary-friendly.

    Remember that “secret” meeting Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had a few weeks back, at Diane Fienstein’s house. Fienstein is a great Senator and, from what we hear, a truly wonderful person, but she’s a terrible actress — we’ve seen her lie before, and it’s not pretty. She doesn’t pull it off well.

    So, she was 100% telling the truth when she told reporters she was genuinely surprised anyone knew about the Clinton-Obama meeting, because she offered her home in Washington as neutral ground for the two to “talk”.

    The first question is, who leaked the meeting to the press?

    The second question is, what exactly happened at the meeting?

    It appeared to be such a brief encounter that we’ve been wondering why all the trouble went into meeting at Fienstein’s home to begin with…unless someone in scheduling on either, or both, side(s) is just a big fan of Scarecrow & Mrs. King or something.

    Think about it: Clinton and Obama could have spoken on the phone, for as long as they were both at Fienstein’s. They could have also spent some quality time together before both spoke at AIPAC, or even arranged a truly “secret” meeting in the Senate itself, where both have offices (though, we imagine, Obama would be hard-pressed to find his, as he’s been there only a handful of times).

    Here’s what one blogger on wrote about the meeting at Feinstein’s house:

    I have it from a reliable source (retired California Democratic party worker who still has great connections within the party) of what happened at that private meeting held at Diane Feinstein’s house.

    Obama offered Hillary the VP slot.

    Hillary told him very brusquely “Thanks, but no thanks”.

    She also made it rather apparent that there was no way she was releasing her delegates and if Obama got the nomination he could expect no real help from either her or Bill.

    The impression my contact got from her discussions with her friends within the party is that Hillary is not out of it and she expects Obama to be so damaged by the time the convention rolls around that he will either drop out of the race or not get the nomination. The Dems know how the Clinton’s roll and they must not be sleeping very well because they do not know when the 16 ton anvil is going to be dropped on Obama. They also know that some of Obama’s dirty laundry would be enough to kill his campaign if it came out.

    Now, that item above sure would exlain why the Clinton-Obama secret meeting at Feinstein’s was so short. It also would explain how the press knew about it, because it would most certainly have put pressure on Clinton to accept Obama’s offer…we don’t see any reason for Clinton’s team to have leaked this themselves, as it doesn’t benefit her at all. But, Obama can’t win the White House without Clinton’s coalition, and despite all the bluster about winning Colorado and Virginia and Georgia, the Obama team knows it’s electoral toast in the fall without the Ohio River Valley, aka, Hillaryland.

    The above, if true, also explains the weird Patti Solis Doyle move on Obama’s part. That was such a strange, warrantless poke in the eye to Clinton, out of the blue, and for no good reason, that it had to stem from something that’s been stewing for a while. We can easily imagine Team Obama feeling magnaminous in offering her the consolation prize, fully expecting loyal party member Clinton to do what she has always done: stand aside for a showboat to win the prize so she can follow behind doing all the grunt work (in her autobiography, Clinton recounts how she ran for student body president in high school, losing to a popular boy who promptly appointed her to a committee that basically did all the work, while he got to take all the glory; Clinton said, ironically, that she learned she really does like working hard to help people and that the glory didn’t matter. Her detractors miss this about her, but it’s 100% true. We’ve spent the last year and a half studying her and her campaign and can tell you with authority that Hillary Clinton is the hardest working person we’ve ever met — and she’s smarter than you could ever in your lifetime imagine. Scary smart.).

    But, Clinton didn’t do that, according to the above. And 18 million loyal Democrats shout THANK YOU HILLARY.

    It sure seems like Patti Solis Doyle was an F-you poke in the eye for SOMETHING, and it wasn’t for Clinton not conceding the race on June 3rd, especially not after Obama’s dirty tricks with the AP that morning (announcing, while South Dakota was still voting, that Clinton had already conceded, in an effort to keep Clinton from winning a state Obama had no excuse to lose). How was her campaign supposed to deny a report she was conceding in the morning on June 3rd, only to concede the race later that night, on June 3rd? Who knows what she would have done without the petty AP maneuver on Obama’s part.

    So, the Doyle hiring relates to something else, and it’s the kind of thing someone from Chicago would do, just like Karl Rove says, to give somebody an unnecessary poke in the eye.

    Why aren’t journalists looking into this, because there’s a very interesting story here, if anyone is awake to, we don’t know, be all journalist and look into it?

    Posted by HillBuzz at 12:55 PM

  294. Yeah, that’s true, I guess that what I see when I look at MO, she comes across as a militant. By all indicators she is.

    Has anyone heard about Larry Sinclair’s media extravaganza?

  295. is about as wingnut as a blog can get. If they can muster that many compliments about Hil, you know she’s earned their respect.

    It’s a good blog, however, I’d take the substance of it with a grain of salt. If that was true, why would she be campaigning with him next week? I’m still wrestling with that.

  296. she’s not campaigning with him next week. she is joining him with fundraisers. we need to tell these fundrisers hell no.

  297. okay. helping him with fundraisers.

    PSD’s crossover to BO is a great surprise to me. I remember reading a NYT article back in January 2007 about Hillaryland. Featured prominently in the full-page photo (alongside other women, including Maggie Williams) and the article was PSD. Seems PSD was as tight and loyal to HRC as anyone could be. PSD talked about how HRC, despite the hectic work schedule and the craziness of her life as First Lady, she always remembered aides’ birthdays, weddings, and other eventful moments. When there was a death in the family or someone broke up with their SO, HRC was there with her condolences.

    It’s quite obvious there was a rift between the two, but I’m not sure I buy the rumor that PSD closed the office for 2 days just to watch Grey’s Anatomy. I don’t believe she purposefully sabotaged the campaign. She just didn’t have the qualilications to handle a Herculian task as a Presidential Campaign.

  298. Obama Torpedoes The Palestinian State: Excerpts
    By David Singer

    [INTERNATIONAL] Presidential nominee Barack Obama took only 14 words to effectively put to rest the idea that a third Palestinian State – in addition to Israel and Jordan – will be created during his term as President if he wins the forthcoming election in November.

    Addressing the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington this week Mr. Obama declared :

    “… any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state”

    Mr. Obama had previously made this viewpoint very clear when answering a question put to him at a meeting of 100 members of the Cleveland Jewish Community on 24 February 2008:

    “Israel has to remain a Jewish state and what I believe that means is that any negotiated peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians is going to have to involve the Palestinians relinquishing the right of return as it has been understood in the past. And that doesn’t mean that there may not be conversations about compensation issues.”

    Mr. Obama – like President Bush – has now given his unequivocal support to Israel’s rejection of the 40-years-old demand by the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) – endorsed by the 22 member States of the Arab League – that millions of former Arab residents or their descendants be allowed to immigrate to Israel.

    Arabs already comprise 20% of Israel’s existing population. They all are Israeli citizens enjoying the same rights privileges and opportunities open to the Jewish majority other than being required to serve in the armed forces. Israel is understandably reluctant to allow the Arab sector of its population to expand other than by natural growth.

    No political party in Israel espousing a contrary view would have any hope of gaining Government. Agreeing to such a proposal would in a very short time destroy the Jewish identity of Israel and its Jewish majority presently living there and replace it with an Arab identity and an Arab majority

    The reason for this long standing Arab demand being maintained is writ large in the Charters of both Hamas and the PLO. It is considered as the political means by which Arab sovereignty can be established for the first time in history in the totality of Palestine – where at present Arab sovereignty exists in 77% – today called Jordan..

    For Hamas – the Islamic Resistance Movement – that right of return is non- negotiable and inviolate and will be pursued until the complete destruction of Israel’s identity as a Jewish state is achieved.

    ……Israel has long offered to resolve the problem by entering into negotiations for the payment of compensation. Such negotiations however would also need to address compensation claims by Jews expelled from Arab countries since Israel’s creation sixty years ago. It would take a very brave Arab leader to agree to such negotiations. His shelf life would be very short and his use by date would soon expire.

    An Israeli proposal in 2000 to allow up to 100000 Arabs to return to Israel was firmly rejected by the Arabs. It is unlikely to be offered again given the radicalization of the Palestinian Arabs since then.

    This issue has been one of the major stumbling blocks to President Bush’s Roadmap, failing to even make it to first base despite the backing of the European Union, Russia and the United Nations.

    Now – almost at the same time as Mr Obama’s speech to AIPAC – the head of the Palestinian Authority’s negotiating team – Ahmed Qurei – has told PLO activists at a meeting in Ramallah that an agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority before the new American President takes office next January would require a “miracle”

    No doubt conferences, negotiations, press releases and Presidential statements will continue to flow until a new American President is in control and will continue throughout the next Presidential term of office but nothing tangible can possibly emerge until the Arabs drop their demand for the right of return.

    For that to happen would also require a miracle.

    The region is replete with miracles that form integral parts of the Jewish, Islamic and Christian faiths.

    However any hopes that either or both of these current two miracles-in-waiting will eventuate is sheer folly.

  299. filbertsf, I hope everyone is not getting iritated at Hill for trying to help raise money for Obama! Certainly they theatened an huge amount of SuperDelegates, why would you not think they are not forcing her to help him?? I believe anything she does for him is out of political survival. I am sure she has been threatened with her senate seat. We all know Hillary is about accomplishing things for us (the american people), so of coarse she’ll eat a few crows if she has to to help us. Thats why 18 million of us voted for her, she is all about US. Lets try and remember that!!

  300. I thought the DNC was so enthralled with BO’s ability to raise cash, why are they bothering with Hillary? Supposedly, he is the cash cow.

  301. confloyd, can’t speak for everyone, but I’m not irritated with her. I just hate the idea of Obamabots booing and trashing her even though she’s doing more than John Edwards or Al Gore signed up to do.

    BTW, how can she be threatened with her Senate seat? New Yorkers voted for her and only they can unseat her. As far as I know, she’s quite popular in NY and she’ll be more popular after all of this.

    Someone upthread had a theory that HRC is doing all this as a way to say, “I did all I could for him. If he loses, it’s not b/c of me. I’ve helped him with fundraising and encouraged my supporters to vote for him.”

    That way, when he loses and 2012 is up for grabs, HRC comes in with a good conscience.

  302. If he is so outraged over the treating of the Muslim women. Why is he not outraged over the booing from his supporters of Hillary. I will be glad when this election is over. I want have to see or hear from him ever AGAIN

  303. *** LARRY SINCLAIR*******

    transcription of his press conference today
    h t t p : / /


    LS was arrested Immediately after his press conference today.. details still yet unknown at this time
    he apparently knew there was a possibility of this happening but still went ahead with his press conference.
    Obamabots were there trying to get in, didn’t happen, they tried to stop the conference with petitions… still didn’t happen!! 😀
    so what did obama do??? He had the FBI arrest Sinclair!! NICE ONE BO!! Dumbass!! now LS will definately get loads of attention after his arrest!! 😀

  304. regarding press conference following LS press conference

    written on LS blog by his mother just minutes ago:

    the press conference went badly. No evidence & parisi refused to answer any questions & left the room. Media was angry!

  305. another update by LS mom

    # Moma Says:
    Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Mr. Sibley has completly filled me in. The PC went well. Over 100 attended & many camereas. A DVD will be posted tomorrow afternoon. Pastor Manning was there.

  306. One of the ways in which the media is trying to minimize McCain is giving him as little coverage as possible. BO gets a write-up from the AP for insignificant things as saying that Osama Bin Laden shouldn’t be martyred.

    Stop the press! BO just said something profound!

    The honeymoon everyone was hoping would end will not. Not until Nov… if ever.

  307. yes basil

    she has blogged periodically all day, those comments posted above are in the 800 range

  308. Who am I to tell you guys what to post here… but I will anyways.

    LS is a dubious character and so, too, is his tall tale. It’s also a story that will not get mainstream attention.

    Obama is a shady guy and his wife is an anti-American, anti-whitey loudmouth. Let’s focus on that. But as you are all adults and independent thinkers, I’m sure you’ll ignore my suggestion.

    Anyhoo… so quiet here today. Did you y’all hitch a ride with HRC to her undisclosed vacation?

  309. dijia,

    Found it.


    Why don’t you read LS’s statement? I’m not a huge follower of the story but the possible connection between LS, Donald Young, the choir director murdered in 2007 and you-know-who are intriguing, especially as Young was choir master at TUCC and was not straight.

  310. filbertsf, Sorry, I did not mean to sound condesending buy I worry that people will start picking on her for doing what she has to do.

    I pay attention to the Larry Sinclair stuff because of BO personality, I bet most of it is true, especially the part about Donald Young. There is a reason Rezko sent that message thru the judge. It was meant for Obama and Blogjevich. The man is scared to death. He is scared on the outside and now he is scared on the inside. He knows he is a marked man. We are talking about the Chicago Mob here, Rezko will not live a long time.

  311. confloyd,
    Since reading you once worked in the PS I KNOW you understand a lot of non-verbal cultural symbolism those who haven’t had experience with such populations don’t have much of a clue about.

    In a way, the school districts where i taught for 20 years was basically a training ground for FPOA (future prisoners of America). There were many days I felt like a prison guard rather than a musician.

  312. One HRC fundraiser, Heidi Li Feldman, is now pushing two funds: one to pay off H’s campaign debt — and one called “The Denver Group”, with objectives of a fair open convention, a roll call vote, and a few other things like that. 🙂

    As to H and O fundraising for each other, maybe the deal is, that a donor maxed out for one of them can still contribute to the other. They wouldn’t dare do it publically; the bots would boo, and we would chant “Denver, Denver…. 2012, 2012 … McCain, McCain….”

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