Big Media Party Head Tim Russert Dead

Update: Earlier, we posted some links to articles we had written about Tim Russert. Out of respect for Russert family members we refrain today from a full analysis of Tim Russert’s career. too is being polite today. Dailyhowler has archives on Tim Russert HERE.

MediaMatters has a Tim Russert archive too HERE. This post at MediaMatters HERE echoed our own earlier analysis.


We’ll be polite. We’ll just post a few links.

Hillary Clinton and American Voters Lied To By Tim Russert.

Chris Matthews’ Nappy Headed Hos

Lazio, Come Forth

Hillary Clinton – Lion Tamer

Russert Wimps. Hillary Triumphs

Big Media Party

Big Media Party Whines And Dines Barack Obama

Pillows For Barack Obama; People For Hillary Clinton


374 thoughts on “Big Media Party Head Tim Russert Dead

  1. Admin, I will not be polite… Karma baby that is all I will say, first Kennedy and his brain tumor, then the flooding in Iowa and now Russert… Obamatrons beware the wrath of God, you could be next

  2. After the way the whole team at NBC, MSNBC and Timmeh in particular treated Hillary .. I can’t be sorry.

    Sorry, I just can’t.

    I offer prayers for his son who will have to deal with the loss.

    He sliced, diced, and stuck knitting needles in Hillary every GodDamnn Day.

    Karma is a bitch.

    Today is Friday the 13th and the COUNTDOWN for Olgermann and Tweety Bird is on…

  3. Proving just how important Barack Obama’s new rumor-busting Web site could be, a Tennessee Democratic Party member told a local newspaper that the presumptive nominee of his party “may be terrorist connected.”

    The Nashville City Paper quoted Fred Hobbs, identified as an executive committee member of the state Democratic Party, in an article Friday examining why Rep. Lincoln Davis, D-Tenn., was withholding his endorsement of Obama.

    Hobbs told the City Paper he understands why Davis is slow to endorse, because Hobbs said he, too, is “skeptical” of Obama.

    “Maybe (it’s) the same reason I don’t want to — I don’t exactly approve of a lot of the things he stands for and I’m not sure we know enough about him,” Hobbs told the paper. “He’s got some bad connections, and he may be terrorist connected for all I can tell. It sounds kind of like he may be.”

    The Tennessee Democratic Party later issued a statement saying Hobbs was “obviously misinformed” and that Tennessee Democrats are united behind Obama.

    But Hobbs’ statement was an example of the kind of remarks that apparently led the Obama campaign to launch a new Web site this week dedicated to fighting rumors about his candidacy.

  4. Idunn – No. He treated Hillary like shit and in turn he treated me like shit. In turn it treated all women like shit.

  5. Idunn, I love you. 🙂

    Bird, hope you got my email. Give them a call. Email is not enough in my experience on these things.

    Later, y’all.

  6. REpost


    TR has one son. Just graduated from a Boston college. Grew up in Buffalo, NY. Too bad he didn’t remember his roots when it came to interviewing and reporting on his pulled-themselves-up-by-their-bootstraps peers like BC and HRC.

    His dad was a garbage collector. but instead of staying loyal to his working class background he fell head over heels in love with a pampered, spoiled, PRIVILEGED upper-class narcissist and that is what I will remember about him.

    Sorry but Karma’s a bytch.
    My condolences to his wife, his son and his father.

    Let me add that it seems he passed almost immediately while on the job doing the thing he loved. In that respect I’d say he was lucky.


    Those WEAK ASS POLITICIANS ARE IN BED WITH THE MONEY…so they will shut up and support this fraud…but let me be frank with you…


  8. dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    I am sorry ,but i am telling you –its not nice to make fun of someone who is dead ..

    I really don,t mean to tell you what to say or what to do –i understand –u are mad as hell at him for obvious reasons -but if you do believe in KARMA then please don,t say anything negative about anybody dead .

    Even on religious basis –we supposed to forgive our enemies and he is dead ,,so

  9. okie, got your e-mail. I registered for the call last night. I think, that is all I have to do, since I am not attending in person. right?

  10. Idunn, I love you.

    Yeah yeah…I’m not gonna “do you” until you at least buy me dinner. And no Mickey D’s either, cheapskate! 😉

  11. Alcina!!!!!

    ROTFLMAO while trying to wipe the water spurt off the monitor!

    Let’s not forget pumpkin was Irish and ya’ll know about Irish wakes, right?

  12. David Gregory talking about Tim making Pillows for his kids.

    MSNBC talking heads need to get off the air .. go black and mourn.

    “mourning” .. how ironic.

    Sucks that he got to dance on Hill’s grave though but he won’t get to brown nose Bambi into the oval office.

    Sorry folks but I’m “extremely bitter and clinging to my memories of how he treated Hillary”

  13. correction:
    dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
    Go Lincoln Davis from Tennessee. He has SPINE.
    NO he doesn’t…he was told to be quiet.

  14. Barack Obama’s first act as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee was to appoint a vice presidential search team. One of the team members was former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson, whose associations with sub-prime lender Countrywide Financial and other corporations touched off a controversy that led to his resignation this week. Political Reporter Judson Berger takes a look at how that reflects on the Obama campaign mantra of change.

  15. dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
    filbertsf .. KARMA ..

    Just wait .. they will blame it on Hillary.

    no they won,t –oh boy –u really mad at him .

  16. Bitchell breaking down .. get a ticket, you’re one in line as well.

    Their hearts are breaking .. oh, I’m so sorry for them NOT!

    Tell me about Irish wakes please.

    Timmeh, just had SO MUCH LOVE .. per Bitchell.

  17. carby,

    Not if Obamerrhoid and crew have anything to say about it. Look how they rigged the caucuses, the primaries, the DNC, the media. I wouldn’t doubt they’re equally capable of rigging GE’s. Afterall, their crack internet crew probably knows all about Dieboldt and has, no doubt, improved on the original model. And if all else fails they can fall back on Chicago strong-arm thug tactics.

    Whaddaya think?

  18. Sonia .. kiss my ass. You mourn your way and I’ll mourn mine.

    He treated Hillary like SHIT. I’m not sorry for him and I can speak ill of the dead if I wish.

    I know Hillary will give him Kudos .. she’s a classy lady but that doesn’t extend to me.

  19. No matter what my personal thoughts are of this man (and believe me they are not positive ones), I do send out my thoughts and prayers to his family.

  20. a Tennessee Democratic Party member told a local newspaper that the presumptive nominee of his party “may be terrorist connected****

    he is terrorist connected. He’s connected to William Ayers for over a decade.

  21. 18 million voters haven’t had their voices heard.

    Florida and Michigan didn’t get their voices heard.

  22. dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    okay ..give me ur as ** i kiss it –ewwwwwwwww–nooooooooo i was just kidding

    okay –sorry

    like i said —karma

  23. Yeah I agree NBC needs to stop with the fair and balanced BS. I am truly sorry for his family, they are hurting and I know personally what that feels like!!

    Sometimes when you live by the sword, you die by the sword!

    Oh,so the Hillary’s big backers are backing McCain now!! Wow, thats is some news!!! Great going Big Bank Rollers, we love you for it!!!

  24. ** sends ass to Sonia via cyberspace **

    Like I say .. just don’t preach to the choir here. We’ve withstood a lot and I’m mean and mad right now and I can’t muster up any sympathy for him.

    I’m clinging to my sympathy.

  25. Dot,
    The Irish have always loved a good party and the wake, like any other gathering in the community, became an occasion to share food and drink, have music and dancing and to enjoy some physical games. At various times in the past there were efforts by Church officials to discourage the raucous events but they were generally unsuccessful.

    Keep in mind the old Irish Proverb!

    May you be in heaven a half hour
    before the Devil knows you’re dead!

  26. dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
    ** sends ass to Sonia via cyberspace **


    confirmation ##hillis44

  27. dot48 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
    ** sends ass to Sonia via cyberspace **

    i am done with it –thx

    now sending it back –tracking #hillis44

  28. I’m beginning to think Obama is a curse. Notice what happens to the states that BO wins and the people who pimped for him.

  29. # filbertsf Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    How can someone be healthy one day and dead the next?
    Obviously he was not healthy. His arteries could have been quite clogged and narrow

    He just came home from a very long flight from Italy

    Blood clots are easily formed on long flights, especially if a person

    has high blood pressure or cholesterol

  30. laney – you are right. gotta watch those long flights.

    deep vein thrombosis pulmonary embolism.

  31. sonya,

    Bitchell, the emaciated, anorexic, gaunt-faced, droopy hound-dog eyed hollow-cheeked dwarfish wife of Greenspan and nepotistic inheritor of plum correspondent roles throughout medialand.

    AKA Andrea

  32. In regards to Tim Russert, when you carrie as much hate as he did for Hillary, it is bound to take a negative effect on ones body. It is sad, yet……

  33. You guys actually think the folks at NBC are grieving? Some, maybe. Others are revising their resumes and sending the studio a video of themselves.

    I think Mitchell might replace Russert.

  34. Well well well…

    condolences to the Russert family and his colleagues. I believe he used to be quite good, but unfortunately, he became part of the Big Media Machine. He sold out. Period.

    Now, back to the wars….

  35. basil9 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Bitchell, the emaciated, anorexic, gaunt-faced, droopy hound-dog eyed hollow-cheeked dwarfish wife of Greenspan and nepotistic inheritor of plum correspondent roles throughout medialand.

    AKA Andrea

    really ?i thought it was michelle — glad i asked .-thx

  36. JAS Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
    In regards to Tim Russert, when you carrie as much hate as he did for Hillary, it is bound to take a negative effect on ones body. It is sad, yet……

    Thats a better way to vent ur anger –sarcastically funny —

  37. Obama mourns the loss of his friend:

    I’ve known Tim Russert since I first spoke at the convention in 2004. He’s somebody who over time I came to consider not only a journalist but a friend. There wasn’t a better interviewer in television, not a more thoughtful analyst of our politics and he was also one of the finest men I knew, somebody who cared about America, cared about the issues, cared about family. I am grief-stricken with the loss and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and I hope that even though Tim is irreplaceable that the standard that he set in his professional life and with his family life are standards that we all carry with us in our own lives.

  38. thanks laney. I’ve known many who have died of or have survived cancer, but I don’t think I know one person who has dropped dead from a heart attack. I know one thing for sure. If you have to go, quick and easy is the way. The C-word scares the beejeezus out of me.

  39. admin Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    Obama mourns the loss of his friend:

    I’ve known Tim Russert since I first spoke at the convention in 2004. He’s somebody who over time I came to consider not only a journalist but a friend.

    well ofcourse –OBAMA–U have 10,000 press secretaries as ur friends

    no offense to RUSSERT ( my prayers to him and his family )but obama 1 gone 9,999 to go –

  40. wtf….?

    “He’s somebody who over time I came to consider not only a journalist”

    he WAS a journalist, Jackass

    you had to “consider” this fact?

    what a bumbling statement, thank you Senator Obama

  41. The Bolshevikization of the Democratic Party
    From No Quarters:

    Such a centralization of the Party’s apparatus is an inherent danger to the big tent character of the Democratic Party. Obama is seeking to personify the Democratic Party. No one person personifies the Democratic Party. This is an internal coup following on the heels of the May 31st Rules and By-Laws Committee that was anything but democratic, the Democratic Party is now a Bolshevik party. Political parties in Western democracies are governed by consensus, not by fiat. There is no place for a Politburo or a Central Committee that dictates commands. Such an apparatus is inherently anti-democratic and against the long-standing principles of the US Democratic Party, we were a party of inclusion, not exclusion. The more you tighten the screws, the more we shall resist you.

    Obama and his cohorts need to be reminded of Barbara Jordan’s Keynote Address at the Democratic Convention in 1976:

  42. I believe Obama when he says he mourns for his lost friend. I mean, that’s just one less influential person in the media to pimp and fend for him when the GOP attack machine does its thing.

  43. filbert,

    My dad passed away within minutes. One night he was eating a bowl of ice cream, the next minute he’d passed out. The ER crew performed CPR but the final analysis was that he’d died almost instantly. I remember getting home that night and hearing a message on my voicemail from my mother, a no-nonsense stiff-upper-lipped Brit. She said: “Basil, this is your mother. Your father passed away this evening. You needn’t bother calling me tonight but I will expect to hear from you in the morning.” Of course i called the second I heard the message and she was annoyed at having been woken up. *LOL* Having lived through the bombing of London in WW2 she’s always been a realist.

  44. Bitchell, the emaciated, anorexic, gaunt-faced, droopy hound-dog eyed hollow-cheeked dwarfish wife of Greenspan and nepotistic inheritor of plum correspondent roles throughout medialand.
    Basil: very good. This is an accurate visual. More important it reflects the level of discourse introduced by the obama campaign, big media and the blogging community. When in Rome . . .

  45. i am on the call tommorrow. also from mccin report-bad news for bambi-i mean bad-

    John McCain continues to defy expectations. We all (pollsters, pundits and campaign leadership) were braced for a Barack Obama bounce — like a pretty big one. The great news: it hasn’t really materialized, not yet anyway. Yes, he’s seen a bounce — daily tracking polls show him up around 6-points — but that’s a far cry from the hype that many of our friends on cable news had been selling.

    And, two major polls released in the past 24 hours are full of good news for the campaign — Diageo/Hotline shows Senator McCain trailing by 2 points overall, but we lead by 10 points with independents. WSJ/NBC shows Senator McCain trailing by 6 points, but the same poll shows Senator McCain has big leads with suburban women and white men.

    And, the rest of the WSJ/NBC survey shows some interesting stuff. It shows Senator McCain leading on some important characteristics. Voters see McCain as: knowledgeable and experienced enough to be president (64% rate McCain as a “4” or “5”, 30% rate Obama a “4” or “5” on the same characteristic); being a good commander in chief (52% rate McCain a “4” or “5” and 33% rate Obama a “4” or “5”); and having strong leadership qualities (63% rate McCain a “4” or “5” and 57% rate Obama a “4” or “5”).

    And, both major surveys released today show Senator McCain continuing to overperform the generic ballot and the challenging political environment.

  46. OK now i am mad

    emily,s list and NOW are saying ~~ they are gonna be watching it very carefully b/c they think michelle will be getting same treatment as HILLARY“


    SHE desreves 10 times worst .

    and where were thier concerns when it happened to HILLARY ??

  47. filbertsf Remember David Bloom NBC news died from DVT

    deep-venous thrombosis, a few years ago. It was a big shock too

    He was embedded with the troops and and slept in a confining space.

    When blood clots form they can break off and lodge
    in the lung (Pulmonary embolism) the brain (stroke) or the heart
    heart attack/ Myocardial Infarction.

    Lesson…Blood Clots are bad

  48. birdgal- conf call

    i’d love to attend, but i will be (drinking mass quantities of beer) in maine this weekend. please take notes and fill us in!!! please let him know there are many of us who will cross-over and vote for him this NOvember.

  49. The death of Russert is a major blow to the obama campaign. You just never know what is coming around the corner waffles, and surely the best laid plans of mice and men gang aft aglay.


    The Democratic Illusion – Written by Michelle Whitedove June 7, 2008

    Thanks to you, all my BLOG readers for showing their support and asking for my psychic insight and updates.

    When we talk politics and/or religion emotions run deep. So I would like to say this, America’s two party system is no longer working for her people. We as citizens of the world need to select a president on their merits and on the solutions for the U.S. and the world. These political races should be more about voting for the BEST person, not the favorite party.

    So when you read my psychic predictions please know that it is not about a personal or political bias. Just like my private readings, I have the ability to look into the SOUL of a person and perceive their strengths, weakness, and their true intent. And know this, the TRUTH is not always what it seems to be.

    This year the Democratic Party outcome is veiled under a Grand Illusion. The media is even failing to see the possible outcome that I see. For months now, they have been spinning the tall tale that Hillary cannot win the bid for the presidency. All the while with great strength she has pushed forward. Today she did NOT concede she only SUSPENDED her campaign. Hillary has a PLAN A, B, C, and D ready for action. Hillary is only buying time.


    =Hillary will not concede and drop out. Hillary is reserving her right keep her delegates so she can reverse her suspension and take her bid for Presidency all the way to the Democratic National Convention in Denver August 25-28.

    =My future vision remains the same, I see Hillary being sworn in.

    =Obama is now ego centered instead of solution driven. He is all talk and lacks a real game plan. You will hear this in his upcoming interviews.

    = He has more scandals that will continue to come to light that will continue to tarnish his reputation. He will take a beat down in the media. When this happens the super-delegates can change their vote and go with Hillary.

    = I received psychic insight that the secret service has been beefed up around Obama because of the death threats that he is receiving. I “see” that most of these are only threats, but there are two real assassination plots being formed.

    = McCain will not be the president. The 2008 Election will be a win for the Democrats, although closely won.

    The media had no foresight during the last two presidential elections on how the win would play out because there were corrupt factors at play behind the scenes. I don’t always receive all the details when utilizing my psychic insight but as in the last two elections I was correct. Sometimes I receive the broad strokes, other times highly detailed insights. This time I’m betting on what seems to be the long shot… But I believe it to be only a grand illusion.

    Vote Your Personal Truth in November.

    = If my vision is farther reaching than I feel, then Hillary will be sworn in for the 2012 election after beating Obama.

    Sending you Love, Light, and Peace,

    Michelle Whitedove

  51. said it was okay to post:

    Hi Everyone:

    I need to let those of you who may be interested know that there is a teleconference
    scheduled for (tomorrow) Saturday, June 14th with John McCain for HRC
    supporters at Independents at 3:30. p.m. EST

    If someone wants to register to attend in person (McCain will be there) there
    are a limited number of seats (about 70). They will need to arrive at 2:30 for security check
    But they need to email me or call me at 301-340-7995 or 301-547-9336 to confirm..
    Since seating is so limited you need to be on the list to get in.
    This is a very small event, so unless you are a major fundraiser this might be your best chance to meet McCain in person.

    I want to emphasize this does not represent a commitment.—just an opportunity to ask McCain questions about some of the issues of most
    importance to Democrats and Independents that are considering voting for him. If you want to send a STRONG message to the DNC

    Here is the access info to register for the call:

    If you can’t participate in the call, but want to submit a question, please send it to

  52. Admin, may I suggest something?

    Can we do a revamp of this site? Let’s remove all of the polls on the sidebar and replace it with links to all pro-Hillary sites.

    Maybe we can also have a list of things we must do from now until Nov, like contribute to Hillary’s debt fund so that she won’t be beholden to anyone.

    Or something like that.

  53. Roland Martin should also get a ticket in line. He’s one of the most pompous asses on tv.

    Sooooo much drama over the Michelle “rumor”. Me thinks they protest too much!!!!!!!!

    They are trying to make it rumor and probably a fake for when it does surface.

  54. June 13th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    birdgal Says:

    Anyone interested in the conference call with McCain tomorrow?
    * * * * * * *
    Birdgal, Texan: Yes, I’m interested. I already sent in a question yesterday through a Hillfan. Info?

    And, Admin, OMG, I didn’t realize that you actually meant Timmeh ACTUALLY died! I’m so sorry for his family. But, perhaps his guilt about stacking the deck against democracy may have gotten the best of him.

  55. wbboei,
    Compliments from the master wordsmith are high praise indeed.

    About your 5:06 post: I gotta admit I sometimes wonder of TK’s diagnosis wasn’t known months before the actual announcement and if it weren’t held in reserve to be dropped at just the right, most-emotionally profitable moment. I wouldn’t put it past Axelgrease to have scripted that. Pumpkin, though, seemed to have succumbed
    instantly to natural causes.

    Birdgal, i will email admin when I get back. thanx.

  56. With all due respect to African-Americans, I think the AA commentators on CNN are horrid. They just are. They are not representative of all AA, but I believe Brazilla, Martin, et al., have the goal of being so.

    So fuck ’em!

  57. ANYONE KNOW — where i can buy those cute hillary bears ??They are just like reg. bears but with hill,s stickers or embroidery on it .

  58. My condolences to the Russert family. I’ll remember Tim Russert for the work that he did before this year’s campaign.

  59. I agree we should take down all the polls, etc and “move on” as Hillary says. Work to be done going into Denver and actions to be done.

    Don’t forget that Hillary is the “elected nominee” .. Waffles is the “selected nominee”.

    Bambi is not legit and it’s not being lost on the voters.

  60. How about a bumper sticker which says

    “`For the first time in my adult life ,i am really ashamed of being part of the democratic party““

  61. Obama is such a wimp. He’s now back-tracking on his promise to debate McCain in 10 town-hall style meetings. He said he’ll agree to only one, and it has to be over the July 4th weekend (when no one will be watching!). It’s comical how afraid Bambi is of leaving his teleprompter:


    June 13, 2008
    Categories: Debates
    Town hall talks break down

    The talks between the McCain and Obama campaigns on debates appear to have broken down, with Obama’s campaign — evidently concluding that the format could favor McCain, or at least give McCain some oxygen — offering just one town hall and one extra debate in response to McCain’s suggestion of 10.

    “We fear that our negotiations over joint town hall meetings are turning into a debate about process,” McCain campaign manager Rick Davis writes to Obama campaign manager David Plouffe. “That is exactly what we have always hoped to avoid, and why we proposed a town hall format that would render many of these process issues moot. As Sen. Obama has said, he is prepared to meet ‘anywhere, anytime’ for a town hall.”

    Plouffe responds that “it’s disappointing that Sen. McCain and his campaign decided to decline this proposal. Apparently they would rather contrive a political issue than foster a genuine discussion about the future of our country.”

    UPDATE: The single town hall Obama agreed to would be on the Fourth of July weekend, a guarantee of a small audience which McCain spokesman Brian Rogers referred to as a “total joke.”

    Letter sent to the Obama campaign:

    Dear Mr. Plouffe,

    Thank you for responding to our proposal. Just to reiterate, we have proposed at least ten joint town hall meetings once a week until the week before the Democratic Convention begins. As we understand your counter-proposal, you have proposed only one town hall meeting before the Democratic Convention.

    In keeping with our original proposal, we are planning a joint town hall meeting in Minnesota next Thursday evening (June 19, 2008). We will hold time on our schedule for joint town halls every Thursday night until the Democratic convention. I hope Senator Obama would reconsider his position and agree to join Senator McCain as early as next week.

    We have also today accepted the invitation from Mrs. Ronald Reagan, Lynda Johnson Robb and Luci Baines Johnson to attend town hall meetings in July at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library. As Mrs. Johnson said, these town halls will truly be an opportunity to “deliberate the great issues of our time.” Their sponsorship certainly meets our standards for a positive and productive opportunity for voters to interact with the candidates. I hope you will agree.

    However, at this moment, we fear that our negotiations over joint town hall meetings are turning into a debate about process. That is exactly what we have always hoped to avoid, and why we proposed a town hall format that would render many of these process issues moot. As Senator Obama has said, he is prepared to meet “anywhere, anytime” for a town hall.

    We remain committed to this idea because joint town hall meetings offer the best format for presenting both candidates’ visions for our country’s future in a substantive way. We have a chance to change the way presidential elections are run and elevate the political dialogue. Americans deserve this kind of opportunity, and we hope that Senator Obama will join us at town hall meetings throughout the summer months.


    Rick Davis

    And the Obama campaign’s response to Davis’ letter:

    “Barack Obama offered to meet John McCain at five joint appearances between now and Election Day—the three traditional debates plus a joint town hall on the economy in July and an in-depth debate on foreign policy in August. That package of five engagements would have been the most of any Presidential campaign in the modern era—offering a broad range of formats—and representing a historic commitment to openness and transparency.

    “It’s disappointing that Senator McCain and his campaign decided to decline this proposal. Apparently they would rather contrive a political issue than foster a genuine discussion about the future of our country.

    “Senator Obama believes that the American people deserve an open and accessible debate as they choose between real change and four more years of failed Bush policies, and he welcomed McCain’s invitation to offer voters ‘the rare opportunity of witnessing candidates for the highest office in the land discuss civilly and extensively the great issues at stake in the election,’” said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe.

  62. Illinois: email to register at the information posted at 5:09 p.m.

    Dot: about Michelle: bite me (not to you). no one spoke up for Hillary.

  63. berkley-v

    what will bambi do in the “real debates” this fall when he doesn’t have hillary there pre-answering all the questions for him???

  64. birdgal, not only did not speak up for Hillary, but the Obama camp denied there were any sexism.

    And now they want us to be outraged alongside Michelle if she’s subjected to blatant sexism.

    Sure, I’ll be outraged… as soon as I’m done getting this knife out of Hillary’s back.

  65. Barbara Walters is smoking some heavy dope right now. Timmeh isn’t a leader in the country Babs, he is a host of a tv show. Get over it, the country isn’t going to go into deep depression over this. We’re trying to figure out how to buy gas and groceries.

  66. Bambi=Bambi

    If he can’t debate/meet with McCain or Hillary, how in the hell, is he going to meet with our enemies???

    4th of July weekend? Give me a break!

  67. If we are revamping the site, I think we should put on oneside the States that Hillary won in, and the total votes in each state, with a final total of how much she beat Obama by.

    We must never lose site of the fact that She won the popular vote, and it should be visible on this site in big numbers.


  68. alcina Says:
    please let [McCain] know there are many of us who will cross-over and vote for him this NOvember.

    Yep! “GOPs for a Day!”

  69. Filbertsf .. I am in total agreement. Hillary is probably still bleeding.

    F the Bambi camp. Trying to protect MO against “incoming” isn’t going to help because she will keep sticking her foot in her mouth.

    Her image is already tatooed on peoples brains .. she’s angry and unproud of America and she sat for 20 years with her hubby and listened to the hate speech in church.

    She will never represent me …NEVER

  70. TM hacked again, besides that turkish thing…now some really wierd stuff over there…that place is getting very strange…

    i cannot understand her pushing that sinclair petition…why in the world is she getting behind that?

    let it be…whatever…now we censor people to protect obama…

    I don’t remember anyone stopping idiots from lying about Bill Clinton…this week alone we had those old hags paula jones and jennifer flowers still making money off bill and everyone let them on tv for their few old, tired minutes

  71. Well, I do not feel an ounce of sadness over Russert’s death. I will not speak ill of the dead, but at the same time, I can’t pretend that I am jolted by the loss. It would be insincere.

    Anyways, whether we like it or not, Russert is a historic figure in broadcast journalism. Allow the media to mourn for one of its own in their way…


  72. Berkeley Vox, Russert was even worse before this year.

    Dailyhowler is “giving it a rest” today but also has archives which demonstrate the destructive deeds of Tim Russert. Dailyhowler’s column today condemned Russert before news of his death was known. Subsequently Dailyhowler has deleted the earlier post.

    Of course no one wishes ill on anyone else and on a simple human level families suffer. The most wicked criminal, the most nefarious dictator has family and personal loss is lamentable.

    When Richard Nixon died there was politeness but still there was acknowledgment of his deeds while still alive.

    Democrats used to have disdain for Russert and his ilk (such as Chris Matthews). Because Russert marshalled Big Media forces to protect Obama today many Obama supporters will mourn.

    On a personal level no one wishes someone else harm. On a professional level, Russert was as destructive to Democrats as destructive can be. is sure to have a good retrospective of Russert’s shameful career soon, after the mourning period ends.

    We posted some links to previous articles on Russert we wrote. Hypocrites will try to deify Russert in upcoming days. We’ll bear witness to the horrors unleashed by Russert on Democrats such as Al Gore and Bill Clinton. Today is not the day to fully explore Russsert’s shameful career.

  73. Looks like Obama has loss his media crown of messiah and now Russert has it. Strange timing, he dies on a Friday in the afternoon…

  74. now the BM’s are crowing how timmeh called BO as the nominee after the NC primary. wow, what jounalistic vision.

    glad i’m outa town this weekend. what a BM puke-fest.

  75. I did like Roland Martin calling out Bob Beckel for confirming the “Whitey” tape and yes he did confirm it and so did Obama with his actions.

    It’s amazing to see the arrogance and confidence that some in the media for had are waking up to the reality that Hillary Clinton’s supporters don’t have to accept KING OBAMA for anything and they have choices.

    Obama is going to have a lot more problems when he TRIES to NATIONALIZE the Chicago Political Machine in Florida, Texas and other states.

    It shall be very interesting to see if the Co-opting of the Democratic Party by ONE MAN will help all those DOWN LINE democrats.

    The Republicans will have a field day with that in many LARGE States being told they will have to BOW DOWN TO KING OBAMA. Obama hasn’t EARN any votes from the voters of EACH independent state.

  76. I have every reason to be angry with Tim Russert, but I can not say that I rejoice at his passing. My heart goes out to his family and friends.

  77. As I no longer get MSNBC, by choice, this is one time I would like to see Mika in her inimitable concern

  78. Barack Obama’s half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background.

    In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya.

    Oh oh, better lift the bus up quick, big bro’s going under it with Obama’s playbook. Obama’s brother just dropped Obama’s ass in the shit.

  79. The Obama News is floating this lie again the Democrats are solidly behind Obama. It’s false and misleading and will befire BIG time comes November.

    The American Voters are not SHEEPS and will vote for what is best for the United States of America.

  80. The shits really hitting the fan for Obama, Gov and congressmen will not publically endorse him, delegates are moving for mccain. Congressmen saying Obama is terrorist connected. Its not looking pretty for him is it and we only just begun.

    In Denver, like a Phoenix, she will rise from the ashes.

  81. So Obama’s own family is calling him a muslim. That’s say much about his Christian Conversion….Obama goes to a Church that has STRONG ties to the Nation of Islam and is a Christian verson of that sect….Interesting isn’t it how Obama’s associates come back to harm him.

    Oh LET’S not forget JOHN KERRY footprints all in this mess.

  82. i did not personally like tim russert, but i am quite sure many did.
    we all make mistakes in life, i for my part forgive tim russert for the
    things he did that did hurt me…

    my condolences to his family.

  83. from foxnews comment in responsed to “Tennessee Dem Suggests Obama May Be ‘Terrorist Connected ”

    Finally, someone with political stature is willing to admit what millions of us fear; that Obama is not honest about who he really is let alone what he truly believes.
    I do not think Obama is for anyone except himself. I pray that he does not get elected.
    God Bless America! Keep us safe from our enemies and prevent them from attacking us from within. NObama 08′

  84. Carby, I am an american living in a muslim country of Turkey, if you are born of a father who is muslim, you are a muslim for life, they accept no other apostatism. If he converted, he is known as an apostate and trust me, if he became POTUS, there are many countries that will publically not deal with him because their people will demand and declare that he is an apostate of islam. It is the worst sin in Islam to convert from it.

    Why can the Dem party not see this as a serious problem involving foreign policy. He will have a fatwa put on him the instant he became POTUS and America will be deemed the Apostate state, the muslim states know how to play this, they will be able to completely justify the destruction of America in there eyes now. There will be many countries he will not be able to set foot in. Its already been discussed here in Turkey, we have an islamic govt and I’m already hearing rumblings of we cannot deal with America if Obama becomes President, because he will be an apostate of Islam.





  86. I really miss seeing Hillary everyday… I love watching her speak in front of large audiences. sigh

    Now all we have is grandpa and the loser from chicago.

  87. What keeps me going is my resolution to get McCain in the WH and then prepare for 2012 for if and when Hillary decides to run again.

    Without those two, I would’ve left Big Pink, too, the Saturday Hill made that speech.

  88. More politics of Hope and Change?


    Posted: Friday, 13 June 2008 11:30AM

    “We Will Kill You”

    Steve Corbett Reporting

    Friday, June 13, 2008

    In the thousands of emails I’ve received in the year that “Corbett” has been on the air, I have not received a single death threat – until yesterday.

    “We will kill you when Obama become PRESIDENT OF USA.,” the email reads. “You would see!!!”

    Most death threats do not result in death.

    But some do.

    What makes this threat to kill me all the more mysterious is that it appears to have been sent through Barack Obama’s official campaign website – – the website that sends me official announcements of Obama’s campaign comings and goings.

    To make matters worse, the email is signed “Michelle Michelle & Axelrod.”

    I took Axelrod to be David Axelrod, Obama’s Chicago-based chief strategist.

    Michelle Michelle was odd, but I had received an earlier email yesterday that I also read on the air. That one called me anti-American, added a four-letter flourish and advised me to shut up.

    That one bore the name Michelle Obama, who is Barack’s wife.

    Both emails came to me under the email heading of “Michelle Obama []. Both emails came to me under the subject line “Fight the smears against Barack Obama” and originated from

    I had received an earlier email from the campaign that was legitimate. Also sent from, it alerted me to Obama’s planned campaign stops in Philadelphia. That’s why I figured that the next email that seemingly originated from the same place was legit.

    But how could I possibly get a death threat from the official Obama website?

    With all the gushing news about how savvy the Obama campaign is in their high-tech internet ability, how could anybody send an email on the official website that threatens to kill somebody?

    After asking this question on the air yesterday, I soon received an email of explanation – not from anybody associated with the Obama campaign, through, but from a listener who walked me through the process of sending any email from the official Obama site with any message and bearing any name – including Barack’s.

    It’s so simple, the email explained, and so stupid.

    It’s so dangerous, too.

    I’ve received my share of threats over the years and took one seriously enough to alert Wilkes-Barre police as well as the FBI who launched an unsuccessful criminal investigation.

    The idea that Obama’s website can be so easily compromised is troubling. That’s why I’m thinking about calling the cops and asking them to try to find out who threatened to kill me as soon as Obama becomes the president.

    I could laugh and just say that I now have yet another reason to work against Obama winning the election.

    But I’m not laughing.

    The emails I’ve been receiving daily about my unwavering support for Hillary Clinton, including a particularly nasty one yesterday from an Obama volunteer in Wilkes-Barre, have become increasingly aggressive.

    So have some of the calls to my show.

    Now somebody has gone too far.

    Obama needs to safeguard his website so this does not happen again to anybody.

    If I sent the same message I got to the same email address from which it came, Secret Service agents would soon be looking for me – as they should.

    I need to know who did this.

    I need to know if she/he or they are serious.

    I need the sender or senders to know something, as well.

    I always do my best to protect myself – especially when you threaten to kill me.

  89. filbertsf Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
    I really miss seeing Hillary everyday… I love watching her speak in front of large audiences. sigh

    Now all we have is grandpa and the loser from chicago.


    I am with you filbertsf…could it be more boring without her? all that insight and confidence and smile…I hope she will be front and center soon…


    I wish I could have asked Tim Russert ‘why did you and nbc/msnbc hate the clintons so much? Why? Why was it necessary to stack MTP every single week with people that would speak negatively about them?

    Why? Why if he was also an executive behind the scenes at NBC/MSNBC did he not insist on more fairness and a small modicum of balance? Why?

  90. rjk1957 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    Now if only Barack and Michelle would both choke on turkey sandwiches….

    Not turkey sandwichwes Arugula or Latte

  91. Carbynew — As someone with a sports background, I couldn’t resist the Obama/Kobe comparison. 🙂

    I think if the Lakers had one nasty ‘enforcer’-type big man, they would win the title. But they don’t, and it’s hurting them against Boston. I like Turiaf but he’s not quite the guy for the role.

    FilbertSF – You’re right, CNN’s AA commentators are a joke. They continually have their own “Who can kiss Messiah’s ass more” contest among themselves, and it demeans them and the network. It’s an affront. Seriously, if any ‘news’ outlook wanted to make African-Americans look this badly they may as well revive minstrel shows. It is a farce. And it seems as though the head honchos give the AA anchors the same marching orders.

    Moonpluto — Exactly. This is how the Muslim world views Bambi. I know he is written of in places like Indonesia as though he is a practicing Muslim and not a formerly practicing Muslim.

    I catch a lot of flack for the one video I made about Barack and Islam. The problem isn’t Islam, it’s Barack and his affinity with terrorists and radicals, like a guy who was blaming America 5 days after 9/11. That is what makes Obama’s extensive ties with Islam a problem. I would say the same thing about a Christian who embraced people like Timothy McVeigh or David Koresh as Bambi has with Ayers, Wright and Frank Marshall Davis.

    It’s generally not a good thing to elect people to run your nation if they hate it, as Obama does.



    You want to know the first thing I thought of when I heard this?

    Olbermann — excuse me, Edward R. Murrow, Jr. — is thinking he should be the replacement for Tim. Just like he thought he deserved the CBS News gig.

    I agree with wbboei, this definitely hurts Obama. There is no way for him to know that he’s got a go-to fluffer on MTP anytime he needs fellated. Even on that network Russert’s ass-kissing was far above standard.

    Thoughts and prayers to the Russert clan, including Big Rus. I don’t like Russert but I’m not going to further impugn him today.

  92. Just today, I renewed my BLS – Basic Life Support, better know as CPR (req’d every 2 yrs in TX). Cardiac nursing, AED’s review as well. Discussed how important it is to have everyone in all industries trained in the workplace because you just never know… ironic. We had even talked about taking this course on Friday the 13th.

    Read where had returned last night from Italy vcation with family, following son’s college graduation. Wonder if he got up and moved around, got up every hour and went to RR, etc. Pressurized cabins are known to predispose you to clots, etc. About a 10-hour flight from Italy home. Even in First Class, got to get up and moe around. Remember David Bloom’s tight quarters in tanks?

    Karma indeed, therefore I best refrain from further comment.

  93. Obama has agreed to have a town hall on 7-4-08
    the day that was having thier Project:Green Rain for Mccain
    where they will give Mccain $5.44 and I think they have added Hillary for that day also so they both get $5.44 ea
    Mccain for media attention and to get the attention of the DNC that we will not fall in line and do as we are told

    Hillary to help retire her debt.

  94. I hear ya, admin. One of my close friends had Tim Russert as her boss, and she said he was a likeable guy, but I was never a fan of his “gotcha” style of journalism and his grilling of Hillary and water-carrying for Obama this campaign season were unconscionable.

  95. I am listening to all the networks and their news people talk about Tim R and they are all pouring out such compassion and emotion and I cannot help but think why could all these people have not one tenth, one pinch of that compassion and kindness for Hill and Bill Clinton…

    why can’t any of these people have a tiny bit of empathy or understanding for the pain they have caused the Clinton family…the insults, the innuendo, the lies, the making up of stuff to create a scandal, the distortions, every attempt to embarrass them…why can’t all these people that are now so sensitive and so hurting have any idea how much pain they have all collectively dumped on the Clintons from morning to night nonstop day after day…

  96. Norma –

    I was just listening to Corebett’s show. Yep, he got the death threat that so many of us have gotten. No fascism there, eh?

    It’s kind of sad, you know? The story is that Bambi was bullied a ton as a kid. I remember reading something along the lines of one of this tormenters saying that Bambi’s head was very hard and the implication was that this bully knew that information from having roughed-up the frail Obama.

    What happens a lot with bullied kids is that they end up being wannabe-tough guys as they mature and age. The whole ‘compensation’ thing.

    And so, we have the entire Obamaphile ‘tough guy’ act. It is a pathetic ploy, especially coming from a guy who would blow over if the wind is too stiff. This is much of what Michelle is too: A bunch of insecurity wrapped inside of a ton of hot air.

    That’s why it was so hilarious to see Bambs roll the bowling gutter ball and hear that Edwards — all 5’9″ or so of him — had beaten Bambi in basketball. Bambi is the skinny runt who desperately wants to be some Conan stud but is instead the guy who writes in his books that he was supposedly screwed-over by a high school basketball coach on the basis of race.

    Bambi, you know, maybe the coach just realized your
    “John Edwards” teammate was better.

    Ha ha ha.

    And now Bambi’s insecurity issues are hurting his daughters. Supposedly he already has them taking some kind(s) of nutritional supplements (I only know this because Mish bitched about it one day, the cost of these products).

    Um, aren’t the girls like pre-teen? Do you really want to be giving them such products in their early years?

    It’s like the failed hoops father who turns his son into Robo Basketball kid; we’ve all seen the type, and Obama is the type.

    Sad sh*t. And most unfit.

  97. Because when you die, that’s what people do.

    It’s strange. When people are alive, we treat them like crap. They treat others like crap.

    Somehow, death makes a person “great” and “the best” and “one of the kind.”

    Strom Thurmond was a racist bastard… but you wouldn’t know it from all the eulogies.

  98. S, possibly the main problem Russert had with the Clintons was sheer, out and out jealousy. He and others knew they would never rise as high as Bill Clinton and Hillary. They may have felt they were so much smarter and better than the Clintons. Who knows why but Mattews and Russert always seem like such insanely jealous “guys”.

    I am truly sorry for Russert’s son. Those of us who have lost a father at a young age feel his pain.

  99. yes, southern born…it is sad that his son will be without his father and sunday being father’s day will hurt even more…

    i just wish all these media insiders would not be such a pack of vultures when it comes to hill and bill…they just enjoy sitting around on these panels and outdoing themselves with digs at hill and bill and it infuriates me…so unfair…they are so obvious to anyone watching but they use their air time to attack them so viciously…

    and now they all sound so virtueous (sp) and pious…

  100. from womancountpac:

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  101. On long flights, advised to drink lots of water, get up hourly and walk the aisles, RR breaks, due to cabin pressure predisposing to clots, and DVT’s. In spacious FIrst Class, may want to sleep entire time, maybe getup once, but not a good idea at all. Autopy will reveal CAD, AMI, clot etc.

    Did someone find him or was it witnessed?

  102. Paul…interesting thoughts you have there.

    GWB was accused of the Oedipus complex and of pulling the wings off of flies…

    I wonder if it is the same for Obama….sure seems like it. Throw in a decade or two of the Dailey Machine and there ya go….

    death threats from your Presidential Web Site.

  103. ru099tuu,

    Welcome to Hillaryis44. I’m sure your caps were just an accident right…lol… My eyesight isn’t what it used to be so your post was a little difficult to read.

    Anyway, I am praying that Hillary gets the opportunity to “unsuspend” her campaign as well. The alternative is too ugly to imagine.

  104. Let us hope that Andrea Bitchell is not the next host of MTP. She’s a bigger ass kisser to “the chosen one” than Timmeh was. God forbid.

  105. It says he collapsed while doing voice overs. So I assume someone was there.

    He was transported to a hospital, where he died.

  106. hillary, as much as i (we) miss you, stay far away from the madding crowd. lay low and let the obama / media cannibals eat their own. they have nothing better to do but turn on themselves. it’s just a matter of time, little buddy.

  107. seems to have gotten hung-up in the 44 filter

  108. Barack Obama
    A little whitey lie,CST-EDT-sweet13.article

    Why can’t Michelle simply state “I have never used the word ‘Whitey’ to denigrate white people”? After all, this story is being covered around the world. Why the silence?

    Think about it: If Michelle did not use an incendiary term, then those in attendance (including war hero Shoshana Johnson) would be very quick to clear her name. Right?

    Chicago Sun Times
    The Alleged Michelle Obama “Whitey” Tape

  109. Alcina

    I think you are right, they need to have some chance at challenging each other.

    I also like the fact that the town hall, the only one he agreeded to, is before the Convention.

    We will get a chance to watch their Presidential Performance.

  110. S, I agree. The whole Clinton bashing thing by so called journalist is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Any way to dissect Bill and Hillary’s life in the most vile way is fair game from enemies and even friends they have helped launch careers.

    I’m still amazed that the AA community could turn on a dime and start hating Bill Clinton so completely after all he did for them.

    We can’t attack other policitican in the nastiest of ways as it is accepted in the media to go after the Clintons. That’s why it is so sickening to hear BO complain about anyone questioning his wife’s comments and actions. Wouldn’t that have been one of the nicer things the media would have done back when Hillary was a candidate’s wife.

    Poor Michelle and Barack sure do like to whine and play the victim don’t they?

  111. 6/13/2008
    Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Former President William Jefferson Clinton on the Death of Tim Russert
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation.”

  112. Everyone, it has been weighing heavily that the Kennedy-Daley merger would be the end of democracy in the democratic party, but I had no idea that they would be so overt. From where I’m sitting, I have an unobstructed view – and it’s bad. Fitzgerald has to work a little faster.

  113. Clintons .. true grace.

    Makes me wonder what Timmeh would have said if Hillary or Bill died.

    Oh, never mind he killed them both with his many knives all through the campaign .. and he never had a sorrowful moment.

    Bill and Hillary .. rest up, we’ll wait for you.

    Karma that Timmeh won’t be seeing the results of this election since he was one of the masterminds that skewered the whole media perception.

  114. Informed: I can only imagine. The leaders of the democratic are evil beings, to have taken the democratic process away from the people. They have allowed their petty jealousies to take democracy away from us, and to have kept the most qualified person for the presidency away from us.

  115. OBAMBI is fully aware about his website and all the crazies radicals being recruited and using his OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN WEBSITE for this type of stuff.

    This and other MARXIST and ANTI-DEMOCRACY items on his website has been troubling Hillary Clinton supporters and some Republicans for months now. It has an truly troubling air we’ve seen before…even had multiple wars against this but the propaganda machine of the Anti Left has NOT done it’s job.

  116. from womancountpac:
    Dear Friends,
    We are putting the finishing touches on our next ad, which we’re hoping to run in the New York Times as soon as Monday.

    That ad is damn stupid wishy-washy surrender talk! “We’re sulking waiting for you to say some nice meaningless things and then we’ll fall right in line!”

    Wanting ‘reforms’ done by BRazile and Co? That’s letting the fox repair the henhouse!

    If they have money, they should donate it to Hillary’s campaign debt or to a count of Hillaristas who are pledging to vote AGAINST Obama in November!

  117. Larry Sinclair continues to get death threats (check out vicious message that is over-the-top) posted on website.

    NPC, not caving to the threats by Soros, Daily Kos, Obamabots have moved the event from room holding 40 to room that will accomodate 110. Special guest to be there for moral support.

    Media sponsoring LS targeted by Soros’ thugs. Imagine that.

    The intimidation is simply incredible. The eighteenth is five days away. Serious crap going down. Serious angles and every possible measure known to man to be implemented in next five days IMO to take out LS, folks. The Feds need to be all over this, offering protection to all parties involved, and prosecution to all terroristic threats, extortion, blackmail.

    This is HUGE. Check out LS website.

  118. Death threat blogger to LS insinuates that he was involved with D. C. Madam (please). But hey…who knows?

    Supposed to be live stream of press conference. Fantastic. It just has to happen without bombs going off. Feel that it will be pre-empted. Stakes too high. This is like a real whodunit. The butler?

  119. curiosity, larry doesn’t say where we can watch the NPC on the 18th

    do you know who is airing it?? will it be on C-span??

  120. turndown,

    so what line exactly did they say they were surrendering on?

    let tell you something, anytime someone wants to ask the dnc
    ‘what the fuck their problem is’ on a full page spread of the
    new york times. it works for me…
    cause i’m all about making them come up with answers. and if
    womans pac, thinks by doing a full spread ad, they might get
    millions of people to look at something suspicious by the dems,
    i am f*cking ecstatic about that.

    they raise the money, they spend it where they think it does the
    most good. frankly paying of hills bills to me, is a waste, let obama
    do it…
    giving the money internally is nice, but that was one of the
    stupid moves we made in the beginning. we never even remotely
    got our message out as much as we should have.

  121. Anybody wants to eat curry chichen, chicken tikka and seekh kabobs –um yummmm . iIjust finished cooking .

    Anyway –FROM CNN
    Fmr. senator finds son’s decision not to endorse Obama ‘puzzling’

    Rep. Boren said earlier this week he will not be formally endorsing Obama.
    (CNN) – This year’s presidential campaign has been one pitting family members against one another.

    Now, former Oklahoma Sen. David Boren is on opposite sides of his son, Oklahoma Rep. Dan Boren, who announced earlier this week that he will not endorse Barack Obama for president. The younger Boren’s reasoning is that his district is very conservative and he doesn’t agree with many of the Democratic nominee’s positions.

    The elder Boren, now president of the University of Oklahoma and a staunch supporter of Obama, said Friday on my radio program “The Roland S. Martin Show on WVON-AM in Chicago” that he’s “puzzled by his son’s announcement.

    May be his son is not selling out to DNC like DAD.

  122. Now, from a fan of Obama’s on her blog….

    Please notice the reference to controlling what those who work for the DNC now READ and where they GO….

    I’ll post the link too. What the hell is this girl on? It certainly is NOT Democracy!


    Hip, hip hooray! What a brilliant move!!! This is change we can believe in and a sign of better things to come for the democratic party and America.

    Obama is obviously READY from day one!

    Moving the DNC from Washington D.C. to Chicago to work hand-in-hand with Team Obama will create a united democratic front and will go along way to spread party unity nationwide. During the democratic nomination race Team Obama was exemplary: it was disciplined; it was leak-free, there were clear lines of communication and authority from the candidate and his key advisors, Chicago-based David Axelrod, and campaign manager David Plouffe. They treated their human resources with respect and have created a tight-knit staff.

    The DNC has had a history of being the opposite – not organized and undisciplined. With both teams joining forces they will learn from each other and be on the ‘same page’ in terms of campaign policies, procedures and synchronization. Once they gel, this will be a formidable team. The DNC will be a better organization once the general elections are over because of this move. With a more disciplined and organized DNC it will be able to help local politicians, Senators, Congresspersons, Governors get elected in the fall and beyond.

    One of the biggest benefits of this move, to me, is to get the campaign staffers out of the deep abyss called Washington, D.C.

    Washington DC is a peculiar place, a place full drama, comedies and tragedies – it is real life theatre. It’s a place where there is constant power play, rumors, and rumors of rumors, obsessions with one’s self and obsession with every one else. It is a city of personality conflicts and phony friendships. It is a town where everyone has a list: a list of enemies, a list of people you ‘should’ meet, a list of whose dinner guest list you must be on, list of who to ‘never’ be seen talking to, a list of who you should be seen talking to and on and on.

    Washington D.C. is its own dysfunctional universe. Because of the environment, and all the extra curricular energy sapping activities it can be easy for staffers to lose focus of their main objectives: getting Senator Obama elected and doing right by the American people.

    So I strongly believe that getting campaign workers and volunteers out of D.C. will keep them motivated and focused on their jobs at hand.

    Some thought that DNC staffers would be disturbed by the move but DNC aides publicly welcomed the transition. “I don’t think anyone could have ever predicted what’s about to transpire,” said DNC chief of staff Tom McMahon, who predicted that the combined Obama and party campaign would “dwarf” Democratic efforts of 2004.

    “Pulling people into the same city is a good idea,” said David Wilhelm, an informal adviser to Obama who served as Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign manager in 1992 and is also a former DNC chairman. “It can have a very important effect on the outcome. A seamless level of coordination and collaboration between the national, state, and presidential campaign itself will mean the ground game can be effective and the 2 to 3 percentage points that can be the difference between winning and losing.”

    Chicago is a great city with lots to do but not too much – it’s the right environment for Team Obama and the DNC. Staffers will read the local newspapers instead of the Washington Post or New York Times. They will listen to what everyday folks talk about in line at the grocery store and around town. This will give staffers a better sense of what’s going on in America and how to best serve voters across the country.

    D.C is way too jaded, excessive and superficial a place to run a serious election.


  123. turndownobama-com Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Hi dem ,

    Thx for the advice .You want to some kabobs and biryani(um its yummy).Tell me what else i can do for you / hillary .It will make me very happy .

  124. Frightening, eh?

    Guess she has never even READ ABOUT the historical nature of Chicago’s Political Machine.

    She is just plain STUPID and UNINFORMED.

  125. SONIA4HILLARY Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Anybody wants to eat curry chichen, chicken tikka and seekh kabobs –um yummmm . iIjust finished cooking .

    COUNT ME IN!!!!

    My mom (GRHS) was the BEST cook when it came to Indian food! I LOVE IT. I lived for years in London, and GOOD INdian Restaurants were on every corner. I MISS THAT HERE! When I was in that horrible corrupt city of DC for the RBC Meeting, I went to the BEST Indian restaurant one night…lovely!

  126. norma,

    the dnc needs to get a good a** kicking.
    we will fight this leftist take over, with everything we’ve got…

  127. Monica Crowley quote–

    Then she(hillary) will slowly and methodically pull off each one of your toenails. Then she will deprive you of sleep by blasting “The Best of the ’80s Hair Bands” at you, and then she will cut off your manhood, and then she will throw the switch. This is what Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Oprah, and Maria Shriver all have to look forward to. None of them should be starting their personal cars in the morning.

    Who is this Monica ?Is she even a woman herself?someone needs to put 2 burritos in her mouth to shut her up.

  128. Norma Desmond Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    WERE your parents indian?

    I was born there and came here @ age -16 .I cook indian food at least 4 times a day .Rest od the days ,its american -pizza,burgers,sandwiches,roast,salads.My hubby hates indian but he is okay now.


    The secret friendship of Hillary Clinton and John McCain
    It’s one of those things that sneaks up on you in politics, a sense of things happening not quite as you expected. It started in April when our Times colleague Louise Roug called with a quote from Sen. Hillary Clinton.

    It is not all 100% positive ,but it reflects how HILLARY and MCCAIN being from opposite parties did work together and are friends.

  130. SONIA4HILLARY Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    Monica Crowley quote–

    Then she(hillary) will slowly and methodically pull off each one of your toenails. Then she will deprive you of sleep by blasting “The Best of the ’80s Hair Bands” at you, and then she will cut off your manhood, and then she will throw the switch. This is what Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Oprah, and Maria Shriver all have to look forward to. None of them should be starting their personal cars in the morning.

    Who is this Monica ?Is she even a woman herself?someone needs to put 2 burritos in her mouth to shut her up.
    Oprah has her own self to blame, it’s not Hillary’s fault that Oprah belonged to Trinity and that Oprah audience is made up of mostly Hillary Clinton voters. That is the risk you take when adults have choice and reason and your words doesn’t match your action.

    Maria Shriver…nobody cares and I mean NOBODY!

    Bill Richardson…If it walks like a duck, then it is a walking Judas.

    John Kerry…20 years of nothingness and now the voters will judge him on loyalty to their concerns to their issues.

    Ted Kennedy…nuff said.

  131. skmf

    Gave a little girfriend, thru actblue. No printer n this household.
    But also gave a little towards our girl’s debt on monday.

    I really really resent your f* em attitude toward Iowa. I have neighbors who have only been able to get into their fields for 6 or 7 days since the soil warmed up enough, some who have newly emerged corn under a foot of water, or have no way looking ahead of getting corn in before the 15-17th, the last possible date for planting. And we had 4 young scouts, ages 13-14 killed by a tornado with 48 more seriously injured, ages 13-17.

    And I am dead tired. We made 800 sandwiches for the sandbaggers today, to send up w/ the Nat’l Guard, what is left of them…

    So just can your rant towards people who don’t deserve it, cause right now I’m thinking you don’t deserve us good folks working hard so you can eat your damn cornflakes and rib-eye steaks. Remember this reply rant to you when you are paying $5 for gas because the ethanol supplies will be low, or $16 for a six ounce piece of beef cause they had no hay, no corn and had to be fed out on meal.

    BTW, it’s not just Iowa, it’s also IL, IN, MO NE WI and MN. Good luck w/ your milk bill and anything w/ wheat in it too…happy grocery shopping this coming winter, bitter person.

  132. Jack Welsch is on Hannity. He, of course, hired Tim Russert. Hannity is interviewing him. Is that his normal voice or does he have something wrong?

  133. clintondem99 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    i love masala dosa.Are you indian too or just like indian food ?

  134. Sonia…no, my parents were not Indian. My mom just loved Indian food, and as a result, I did….

    It started early and often when I was growing up! We had the normal american kid food too and dinner table stuff, but Indian was the best of all!

    But my dad was stationed in India in WW2…he was Army Air Corp in the China-Burma-India campaign with the Billy Mitchell group. I wear his wings as a bracelet I had made when he died in 1990

  135. Norma Desmond Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    OH sad to hear about your dad. And very touched to hear about ur bracelet that you wear .

  136. clintondem99 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    You kidding or serious /

    which part , let me guess ,u said masala dosa ,so u must be south indian .

  137. Norma: That writer, is on some serious kool-aid and propaganda. I threw up my popsicle. Wow. Each day reaffirms, why, I will never, ever, vote for that empty suit.

  138. SONIA4HILLARY, I lived all over India banaras, Rourkela, Hyderabad. I am from Hyderabad. I should say I was. Where are you from??

  139. Norma – Thanks.

    I went to school with people like Obama, I know this type of person. Further, I was trained as a peer counselor and have always been, fortunately, very empathic. Finally, I have done years of research on mental health for both myself and my career. Combine those considerations with a lot of research and it isn’t difficult to understand what makes a person like Obama tick.

    Obama’s greatest skill of all is his ability to be chameleon-like and adapt to his audience. If he’s around whites, he’s the erudite snob. If he’s around blacks, time for the “Okie Doke” references. As someone from a mixed racial background, with abandonment issues, this quality would have been essential to Obama. He wants to be liked and accepted and has learned to do what it takes in order to scratch that itch.

    Obama has MASSIVE identity issues, as does his wife. As does most of Trinity, it seems. Remember, Trinity is “Buppie.” So what you’re likely to find there is a bunch of wealthy AA’s who still want or need to feel “down for the struggle,” even though the struggle is long since passed for them. It went out the window around the time Mish was getting her Ivy League affirmative action admissions.

    I am Mexican-American. I am mixed-race. I know this world, the American ‘minority’ world, and I know the people that populate it.

    Obama is the political equivalent of Oscar De La Hoya, a ‘crossover’ success. And his chameleon skill and practice gives him the ability to hide his radicalness much greater than, say, his wife.

    But he’s a radical at heart. There is no doubt about that.

    And I have to say something else here, something which others have said and that bears repeating.

    People like Obama are borderline sociopaths, and I mean that in a clinical sense.

    Here is the Wikipedia entry for antisocial personality disorder, a suffer of which is often classified as being a sociopath:

    The entry gives a list of 7 diagnostic criteria by which to asses the subject’s classification as being a suffer. 3 or more of the 7 are deemed necessary to be considered sociopathic. See if these sound familiar:

    2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

    Obama’s entire career is built on deceit. It is the foundation of his being and his coping skills.

    5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others

    In my video about The Obama Cult, I show footage of one of the heroes of the 1992 LA riots, Greg Williams. The message of the footage is that the kind of race-baiting which Obama and his flunkies have engaged in this entire election cycle has dire consequences. And nobody should know that better than Barack “I campaigned for my alleged genocidist cousin Raila Odinga” Obama.

    But he doesn’t care, doesn’t give a f_ck. If others have to get hurt to further his career, so what?

    And that’s why you never hear ANY rebukes of the death threats by his supporters. Obama doesn’t care, in fact, as I said above, he likes to feel like a tough guy because it’s such a departure from what his life has been like. I’m sure Chicago has been a big thrill for him in that way, getting to be the boy of a hardened thug like Rezko and the corrupt Chi-town political culture.

    Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

    Oh, I gotta drop my 20-year spiritual mentor on a dime? No problem. Bye-bye, Jeremiah. Time to ditch Trinity even though it gave me all my street cred? Buh bye. See you, Pfleger. Oh, and Rezko? Not the Rezko I knew. Hey, Tony, you better go straight to jail so that, you know, nothing like Donald Young happens to you.

    No remorse, no second guessing.

    This is what, to me, really is the hallmark of the sociopath. They don’t care at all about others, and have no remorse when they have to crush someone else to get what they want.

    If you spend your entire life constantly adapting to different situations and trying to win favor with various groups (of which you’re not sure the particular one you fit in with), what happens is that you never develop any cohesiveness in your relationships. And so, you can turn on any of your supposed ‘friends’ anytime you want and feel no remorse or loss.

    That is Bambi. And that is why you saw Wright work to hurt Bambi in Detroit at the National Press Club thing or whatever it was. Wright was pissed; twenty years meant something to him but it meant nothing to Obama, the sociopath.

    Here’s another part from the Wikipedia entry:

    “The essential feature for the diagnosis is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood.”

    Alice Palmer, my mentor who helped me out in Chicago? F*ck her. MY turn.

    Bambi doesn’t care about anything or anyone except himself. Not only is he ok with his cult’s totalitarian tactics, he embraces them. This is who he is on a very fundamental level.

    Here are some other common characteristics of the soicopath (from Wiki):

    Substance abuse
    Superficial charm
    A sense of extreme entitlement

    Barack Obama is a sociopath. Granted, he is a high-functioning sociopath. But he is a sociopath none the less. He has a very bleak heart. He tries to hide it with a smile and a good vocabulary, but every now and then he is betrayed by a ‘typical white person’ comment that shows you exactly what he is about.


    In 2000, the MSM tried to portray Al Gore as ‘crazy,’ etc.

    Al Gore is not, nor ever was, ‘crazy.’ I’m not saying Al is the perfect person, but he is far from clinically insane.

    Barack Obama is a deeply troubled man. He is a borderline sociopath. I’m not saying this for effect but am using the definition and the diagnostic criteria for that definition to try to convey the reality of who and what this presidential aspirant is. He is dangerous, he is a threat. I don’t blame Rezko for going into prison early and I don’t blame Larry Sinclair for being fearful for himself. Barack himself is a coward, but he has no problem with others doing insane acts in his name. We have seen this repeatedly and many of us have been victims of it.

    This man is beyond unfit for the presidency. He is a menace, a scourge. Our party’s mere flirtation with him and his ilk is a serious indictment of it and this is a large reason why people are leaving the party in droves.

    I don’t want to be associated with some certifiable, ‘I OWN the DNC and we’re moving it to Chicago’ madness. What Dean, Pelosi, etc have done is made a Faustian bargain that all Dems — and, possibly, the country and the world — will live to regret. Think about what has happened in the last 6+ months, with sites like Daily Joke, or what happened to Hillary, or what has happened to you or I who have been targeted by the totalitarianists. This is not a jumping of the shark it is like boarding a space shuttle to pass over the shark.

    It is complete insanity, and the trance which surrounds trying to get Obama into office now is like the feeding frenzy of a great white. All reason, sense of proportion or other stabilizing factors have been lost. This is what happens in cults.

    I apologize for being so grim but this is the reality of the situation. It is why I snapped at Sonia the other day about not giving Bambi any Mulligans on anything. We cannot offer him any free passes at all. It is going to be one hell of a thing to stop him and his cult, and it won’t happen if we pick at each other or allow him any leeway, period.

    As I have said and will repeat here, I draw the line, personally, on what is legal. I don’t want to harm Barack, or see him harmed. Nor do I want him to fail in his bid due to dead people ‘voting’ or such.

    Beyond that, everything is fair game. Michelle? Oh, f*ck yeah. You bet she is. Wright? Hussein? Without a doubt.

    I’m not in the business of elevating anti-American sociopaths to the Presidency. And so, if Barack Hussein Obama can be taken down with something along the lines of Hawaii’s being a kingdom and not a state, then by all means…

    …take his bony, race-baiting ass down.

    As some youths might say, there is no time for “half-steppin.'” This guy is a danger to our party and our nation and he needs to be defeated.

    Some might ask: “Well, what if he wins?”

    If he wins then he wins, and we go to Plan C. We’re on Plan B, with Plan A having been Hillary wins the nomination.

    The hypothetical question for the Spartans at Thermopylae would not be ‘Did you win?’, it would be ‘Did you try to halt the Persians?’ Or, to make the discussion more current: Did you fight the Nazis like the Soviet Union did or did you lay down like Vichy France?

    I am not a fan of Dubya, but he is correct about one thing (as is McCain):

    You never give in to tyranny. You have to resist all the way, because the first step towards concession is the final step of freedom.

    Obama, the Trilaterals, the Bilderberg Group, Soros, the MSM, etc. are not your friends. They are not the friends of working-class Dems. They only care about power.

    Hillary set a great example. They demonized her the entire time and yet she would not give in, even in the end.

    That is our responsibility now. It is why I will never be a Bill Richardson or Josh Marshall Judas. This is about right versus wrong, freedom versus thuggery. This fight has to be fought by us and we will fight it.

    And if we ‘die on our feet,’ then?

    So what. It is, as they say, a good season to die.

    And it is never a good time to live on one’s knees.

    Paul F. Villarreal

  140. Sonia: Monica Crowley is a known plagiarist clown.

    Curiosity: Having the LS press conference live streamed is GREAT. That is perfect.

    We all need to Larry our support. I can only imagine what he is going through. Larry, your courage is tremendous in the face of the fascist borg. Stay strong. Your country and the Democratic Party needs you, and more like you.

  141. clintondem99 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
    SONIA4HILLARY, I lived all over India banaras,

    I am from punjab -jallandhar/ludhiana.main ladki hun,bees+aath(8),yaahen pey obamabots hotey hain

    I don,t think we should be distracting everyone else here with our offtopic conversations,so if u want ,u e-mail me or give me ur e-mail address ,i e-mail you .

  142. Paul: Back in Jan/Feb, I thought, BO was a soley a narcissist, but as time has passed, and the events of past few months occurred, I also grew, to think of him as a sociopath. His behavior proved that to me. I am a Registered Nurse, with psychiatric nursing experience, and I also, came up with this diagnosis.

  143. Just came back from a zoo visit. I’ll be polite on Tim as well, but I’ll just say this, this news has not ruined my excellent mood one bit after a great day at zoo! May he rest in peace.

    Kennedy, Tim, who’s next? Karma? It won’t surprise me if NBC’s gasbags Olberman, Matthew be struck by lightening anytime soon.

  144. WBBoei

    If you are on, turn on Bill Moyers…

    Remember our long conversations abt the gilded age-

    Bill has nailed it w/ a program abt the 30 year class war that wer’e in now.

  145. Someone earlier posted good polling news about McCain, saying Waffles’ bump wasn’t nearly as big as expected. Even the tracking polls are showing the little boost he got is dissipating. He’s only ahead by 3 in Gallup today.

  146. PRINCETON, NJ — Barack Obama leads John McCain in national registered voter preferences for the election, but by a slightly narrower margin than he had earlier this week, 46% vs. 43%.

    Although Obama’s three percentage point advantage is statistically significant, it is down from the 6- to 7-point leads he had in Gallup Poll Daily tracking reports on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.)

    According to the latest results, based on Gallup Poll Daily tracking interviews from June 9-10 and 12, a sizeable 10% of national registered voters are either undecided between the two major party candidates for president (4%), or say they will not vote for either (6%). This is the highest uncommitted percentage Gallup has seen since it launched daily tracking of an Obama vs. McCain race in early March. (The average across this time period is 8%.) Additionally, a consistent 1% volunteer they will vote for a different candidate. — Lydia Saad

  147. Weren’t Obama finance supporters suppose to meet with Hillary’s big fund raisers yesterday? You know, fund raisers to fund raisers. Since I haven’t seen anything about it, can I assume the meeting didn’t go as planned?

  148. Birdgal — You were right on. He is a sociopath. He doesn’t care one iota about anyone at all, and that has been seen all throughout this election season.

    Honestly, when the “Whitey” tape drops, I think if he could get away with ditching Mish he would.

    If you’ve had that training then you also may have come across this kind of person during your nursing career. They are scary people and you know one when you come across them.

    Bambi is one. And he continues to prove it again and again.

  149. Paul F. Villarreal (AKA Universal) Says: Bambi is one. And he continues to prove it again and again.

    How do you get to a person like that, especially now that he has so many hoodwinked? I’m assuming, once someone gets to him, he starts falling apart and starts looking pathetic.

  150. SONIA4HILLARY Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
    turndownobama-com Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
    Hi dem ,
    Thx for the advice .You want to some kabobs and biryani(um its yummy).Tell me what else i can do for you / hillary .It will make me very happy .


    Um, thanks, yummy! Bahut Acha! Some chai masala and raita and pappadam too please!

    If you want to do a little something, take a look at my page at

    h t t p : / /

    IS it clear? Does it make sense? If you agree with me, then how about as you surf around, post the link some places?

    ANyone else too, of course!

  151. AOL straw Poll started over today. 33K have voted. McCain is ahead by 20% and all the states are red.

    Looks nice.

  152. Obama’s backers & losers (Chris Dodd/ Conrad ) caught in mortgage scandals. Culture of corruption, dems version. It’s kind of laughable to read Chris Dodd’s name is on bambi’s short list for V.P. Losers.

    When Senator Kent Conrad wanted a mortgage for his beach house,he turned to a Washington insider, Johnson, former head of Fannie Mae, the government mortgage giant, who then put the senator in touch with Angelo Mozilo, chief executive of the mortgage lender Countrywide Financial.

    The ensuing telephone call between Mr. Conrad of North Dakota and Mr. Mozilo led to two Countrywide mortgages, including one in which the company bent its rules to give Mr. Conrad a loan.

    Those loans are among a number of Countrywide mortgages at the center of an examination into whether a number of top politicians in Washington — members of Congress, the cabinet and celebrated advisers — received favorable deals from a company whose lax lending standards are at the center of the subprime mortgage crisis.

    This week, Mr. Johnson, whom Mr. Conrad turned to for help, was forced to step down as head of Senator Barack Obama’s vice-presidential selection committee in part over Countrywide home mortgage loans that Mr. Johnson had received at favorable rates.

    At the center of the scrutiny are the activities of Countrywide’s “V.I.P.” program, also known as the “Friend of Angelo” program, in which Countrywide appeared to bend its lending rules for prominent people. Now, many of those receiving Countrywide home mortgages say they were not aware the company might have been working behind the scenes to give them favorable loan terms.

    Senator Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and a leader in the effort to help homeowners caught in the subprime mortgage crisis, denied on Friday that he received preferential treatment for his two Countrywide loans.

  153. Wow, check out the front page of John McCains website. They have a photo for the “Citizens for McCain” group and it shows a Hillary supporter holding a Hillary sign with McCain stickers on it. This is the first time I’ve seen such a direct appeal to us Hillary folk..

  154. Very important article you posted Kostner – thanks.

    Most Americans don’t have a Rezko to help them with mortagages and only VIPs have a a “Friend of Angelo” program.

    Very important story which gets us closer to the Culture of Corruption (Democrat style). When will the Senate Ethics Committee investigate these people – including Obama?

    At the center of the scrutiny is Countrywide’s “V.I.P.” program, also known as the “Friend of Angelo” program, in which Countrywide appeared to bend its lending rules for prominent people. Now, many of those receiving Countrywide home mortgages say they were not aware the company might have been working behind the scenes to give them favorable loan terms.

    “As a United States senator, I would never ask or expect to be treated differently than anyone else refinancing their home,” Mr. Dodd said in a statement. “This suggestion is outrageous and contrary to my entire career in public service. Just like millions of other Americans, we shopped around and received competitive rates.”

    But, the Web site of the business magazine Portfolio, cited internal documents indicating that Countrywide had reduced the rate on the mortgage of Mr. Dodd’s Washington town house by three-eighths of a point, saving him $2,000 a year in interest payments, and reduced the rate on a Connecticut house by a quarter point, saving $17,000 over the life of the loan.


    In the case of Mr. Conrad, a member of the Senate Finance Committee, cited Countrywide memorandums in which Mr. Mozilo told an employee to “make an exception due to the fact that the borrower is a senator.” That exception applied to a mortgage for an eight-unit apartment building in Bismarck, N.D., that Mr. Conrad was buying. Countywide normally provided mortgages for apartments with only four or fewer units.

    For Mr. Conrad’s $1.07 million mortgage on his home in Bethany Beach, Del., Mr. Mozilo sent an e-mail message directing an employee to “take off 1 point,” or reduce the interest rate by a percentage point.


    Such loans to members of Congress or executive branch officials — if given on favorable terms — could run afoul of federal ethics laws that limit the amount public officials can receive as a gift, according to campaign ethics watchdogs. But if the senators were unaware that they were receiving favorable treatment and if there was no quid pro quo, it would be harder to make a case. Still, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a nonprofit watchdog group, has called for Congressional ethics committees to investigate.

  155. I don’t know about you all, but I am ready to watch the slicing and dicing of Chris Dodd, afterall, he was the first to attack Hillary in the very first debate!!
    He mentioned her high negative rating and her inability to win votes because of it. Hey Chris, how would you of liked to win 18 million votes. She managed to do it with a high negative rating, which I believe has been scewed by the press just like Bambi ‘s high #’s. American loves Hillary and they still love Bill!!

  156. Well well!

    Senator Dudd!!!! from CT …on the senate banking committee chairmen too!

    No wonder he did not want any hearing earlier on in the mortgage crisis….

    He was the one who started the Annti-hillary stance in the initial debates…

    saying he was not sure that the Dems wanted hillary…

    Hehe! the DAMN obama DEMS and their ethics!!!
    Amd he was the onne who threw inn the wrennch over the drivinng licences for illegals.

  157. Wow Okieatty and Idunn both here on the same day!!!
    Treasures the both of you.
    Another money bomb i think would send a huge message.
    And fyi on many occasions people have whispered in my ear that with hill gone they will vote McCain in november. They whisper I scream,

  158. I called Senator Feinstein’s office in SF, today. The young lady was polite, as I told her, everything that I was displeased about, including, the corruption and the Obama’s kid site. She said, they couldn’t do anything about that, but I wanted Senator Feinstein, to be aware of the propaganda, being fed to children.

    Why isn’t anyone else talking about the farce of the Rules Committee, besides us?

  159. Bambi the sociopath? I have a background in psychology and yes, I see it too. The man is not mentally healthy, whatever the diagnosis. Ditto for his wife.

    The move to Chicago… For some reason that I can’t put my finger on, I see this backfiring big time.

    The Democratic resistance… I enjoy reading these reports of Democrats who won’t kowtow to the Bambinos. And their number seems to multiply every day.

    Bambi’s scared to do townhalls with MacGrandaddy… Why am I not surprised? I also don’t ever expect to see the “joint appearances” with Hillary.

    Hillary’s campaign debt… I think helping Hillary retire her campaign debt should be one of our main priorities. IMO, the DNC should pay every last dime, since they deceived her (and us) into thinking the nomination was still up for grabs when they had already fixed it for Waffles. But I don’t expect the DNC to do Hillary any favors, and I like the idea of her being able to pay everything off without their help. It puts her in a better position to “storm the Bastille” in August.

    No roll call at the convention??? Is this for real or is it just a rumor?

  160. John McCain to host Citizens for McCain tele-town hall!

    John McCain will host a tele-town hall on Saturday, June 14 at 3:30pm, with special guest Carly Fiorina, and is requesting your participation! This is a unique opportunity for Independents and independent-minded Democrats to speak directly to John McCain and let him respond to your concerns and ideas – all from the comfort of your own home.

    If you would like to participate in this tele-town hall, please click here to register to receive a phone call on Saturday that will link you into the meeting, or email

    If you would like more information on this historic tele-town hall, please click here.

  161. birdgal
    they erroneosly thought we would go away or fall in line with the r v wade and gay rights spiel. well they were wrong. Never ever obama.

  162. good evening all,
    seems like mr obama is having a bad day? thank you for extending
    an invitation to the family. i really feel welcomed. i sent my thank
    you card to hillary today, i would like to be a little mouse in a cornor
    when she see’s all the cards for her. when i get my check next week
    i will donate to her debt. call me silly i still think she is going to
    pull this off. we all know mr bill is a shrewd politician.
    the more road blocks for mr obama the better it is for our girl hill
    and the delegates to see who mr obama truly is. lets create some
    more road blocks, i wish we could get someone to hear us about mr obams birth certificate that would speak volumes. what do you think?
    i am praying everyday the us attroney general come down hard on mr obama. that would be the ticket right there.

  163. Retiring her debt
    I am in
    and ladies just so you know my father said a great fathers day gift would be a contibution to hill some see the travesty for what it was

  164. henry Says:

    June 14th, 2008 at 12:18 am

    I think, most people realize that it is blackmail. It will not be overturned. McCain is not interested in doing that. If by some chance, it does get overturned, the decision will be with the states. For me, I am more concerned about national security. That is my major concern.

  165. This post is addressed to white women, although everybody is certainly encouraged to respond…

    If we want to beat Obama and the DNC, we must continue to defy the stereotypes about white women. As white women, we’re supposed to be docile, not angry. We’re supposed to go along with the group and not make waves. We’re supposed to set our own dreams and issues aside for the good of the “family”. Roe v. Wade is the one issue that is supposed to be “ours”, the one that we will fight for, the one that we’re supposed to be so afraid of losing that we’ll fall in line and act like good sheep even when all roads lead to the slaughterhouse. We’re also supposed to think we’re hip, cool, and a bit naughty if we fall for the charms of a charismatic black man. Failing that, we’re supposed to vote for him over the old white guy because we’re afraid of being branded with the racism label. Oh, and he might pick a white woman for vice president– that should be enough to make us happy, shouldn’t it?

    That’s what Obama and the DNC want us to think. That’s how Obama and the DNC want us to feel. But that’s not what’s happening. We white women are angry and we’re not going to shove it down and pretend everything is OK. We’re not going to push our dreams aside and play like nice little girls for the good of the “family” because the “family” is dysfunctional as hell and we won’t stay in this abusive relationship anymore. Obama does not charm us. Roe v. Wade does not scare us. We are not deterred by false accusations of racism. We cannot be won over via token gestures of affection. And no, we don’t have PMS and we won’t “get over it” before November.

  166. There have already been meetings with Carly Fionina and Hillary supporters in addition to the one taking place later today. Here is a video report:

  167. I just got to a point where I could watch the links admin put up in the original post of Tim Russert. I remember how I hated to watch him during this year. I am sorry he died, but I certainly will not miss his biased reporting. As someone posted up thread, they are probably sprucing up their resumes to get his job, we all know they all have the hearts of stones!!!

    It did remind me of how he treated her. I am sure there some politicians that will not be sad of his demise, he was very mean to many!! I wonder how really good politicians that he personally threw dirt on their graves???

  168. I wish, she would have talked about the corruption, fraud, stealing of votes, and the illegitimacy of BO’s nomination. That is the crux. If, there had been a fair fight, without the rigging of the election and all the misogyny, this division would be less acute, and people would not be considering McCain. This was not a clean nominating process, which is part of the reason, for the anger. Clinton supporters have been disenfranchised, and told that our votes are not needed.

  169. pumpkin gone ..ohh.he didnt look good when he did the debate with brian for his family..
    ill be quiet.

    no no obomba never never..his site should be shut down…and he should drop out many connections with radicals..and people are really getting afraid of him..they are finding out he is not
    to be President of the USA.

  170. Has any potential nominee ever taken over the DNC and taken some of it to their home state or is this a first???

  171. McCain 1, Obama 0: the McCain campaign has successfully “won” the battle over the town-hall debate news story, because the media is portraying it as “two sides fail to reach agreement on debates.” Why does that benefit McCain? It makes Obama look like just another politician, bickering over something as pointless as debate logistics. From NYT:

    June 14, 2008
    Campaigns Unable to Agree on Series of Meetings

    In almost every campaign appearance this week, Senator John McCain has been leaning on Senator Barack Obama to accept his offer to engage in a series of 10 one-on-one town-hall-style meetings, a format that worked well for Mr. McCain in the primaries.

    But after a round of proposals and counterproposals, the campaigns failed to reach an agreement on Friday on how often to meet and when any head-to-head matchups should occur.

    David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, criticized Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, for declining the counteroffer of five joint appearances.

    Mr. Plouffe said the five joint appearances “would have been the most of any presidential campaign in the modern era.”

    The proposal by Mr. Obama’s campaign would have pitted the candidates against each other at three traditional debates in the fall, as well as at a town-hall-style meeting on the economy in July and a debate devoted to foreign policy in August.

    “It’s disappointing that Senator McCain and his campaign decided to decline this proposal,” Mr. Plouffe said in a statement. “Apparently they would rather contrive a political issue than foster a genuine discussion about the future of our country.”

    A spokesman for Mr. McCain, Brian Rogers, said his campaign did not consider the counterproposal a “good faith” attempt at compromise.

    Mr. Rogers took particular umbrage with the suggestion that the economic-focused forum be on the Fourth of July, a day, he said, few Americans watch television.

    Mr. McCain proceeded without Mr. Obama at a town-hall-style meeting on Thursday night in New York before a friendly audience mostly made up of supporters and broadcast live on the Fox News Channel.

    “This would have been a little more interesting tonight if Senator Obama had accepted my request,” Mr. McCain told the audience at the Federal Hall National Memorial.

    Mr. McCain has promised to keep time open in his schedule every week from now until the Democratic convention in case Mr. Obama changes his mind on the joint appearances.

    The campaign appears ready to push on with the forums, even in Mr. Obama’s absence. The next one is scheduled for Thursday in Minnesota.

    On Friday, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, sent a letter to Mr. Plouffe informing him that Mr. McCain had accepted an invitation to joint town-hall-style meetings in July at the Ronald Reagan and Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Libraries.

    In the letter, Mr. Davis signaled that the negotiations between the campaigns were “turning into a debate about process.”

    “That is exactly what we have always hoped to avoid, and why we proposed a town hall format that would render many of these process issues moot,” Mr. Davis wrote.

    The candidates first addressed the idea of a series of forums in May. In a letter last week, Mr. McCain officially extended an invitation to Mr. Obama to participate in the meetings “in the spirit of the politics of change, and to do our country good.”

    At the time, Mr. Plouffe called the proposal appealing, but said his campaign preferred a format that is “less structured and lengthier than the McCain campaign suggests, one that more closely resembles the historic debates between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas.”

    As the debate over debates remained unresolved, the campaigns sparred over the economy. Mr. Obama was sharply critical of Mr. McCain’s stance on Social Security.

    “My opponent in this general election, John McCain, his idea of Social Security amounts to four more years of what was attempted and failed under George W. Bush,” Mr. Obama said, referring to Mr. McCain’s previous support of private accounts within Social Security. “Yesterday, he tried to deny that he ever took that position, which leads us to wonder if he had a change of heart or a change of politics.”

    Speaking alongside his wife, Michelle, and Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio, a Democrat, to a few dozen people at a retirement center in Columbus, Mr. Obama laid out his plan for Social Security and retirement. He called for adjusting the cap on the payroll tax and eliminating income tax for the elderly who make less than $50,000 a year.

    Mr. Obama said the “tax cuts for the rich” that Mr. McCain has proposed would provide “essentially no benefits to the vast majority of senior citizens.”

    Some economic analysts have criticized Mr. Obama’s plans, suggesting that the tax system already adequately protects low-income older Americans.

    The McCain campaign issued a statement saying Mr. Obama’s tax proposals would raise taxes for some elderly people.

    “Barack Obama likes to think that his tax increases will only hit a few Americans, but in truth, his economic plan will be a disaster for everyone, especially seniors,” said Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for Mr. McCain.

  172. You know I always thought that the second amendment needed to be altered. I mean, I thought we should get guns of the streets and out of the hands of crooks. I could never understand why the republicans put so much stock in being able to own a gun.
    Well, this years I have seen the light. I do believe Americans should be able to own a personal gun, afterall, how would the average America defend itself from a communist takeover from within. This year I now actually believe it could happen, so I am glad we have never been able to alter that 2nd amendment.
    Go NRA!!

  173. Good news about Gallup today. If we can get McCain ahead in the polls, as quickly as possible, support for Bambi by the SDs will begin eroding quickly. Just watch.

    There is a teleconference
    scheduled for Saturday, June 14th with John McCain for HRC supporters at 3:30.
    Here is the access info to register for the call:

    There are OBAMABOTS saying this is McCain “using” us foolish Clinton supporters and doing everything they can to disrupt this meeting or keep it from happening


    For the record, this was MY idea (not McCain campaign’s). It’s a Q & A–ask anything you want.
    Most importantly: it represents a POWERFUL OPPORTUNITY to send a strong message to the Democratic Party that we are NOT simply going back to our (In Rahm Emmanuels; words) …”knitting”

    It’s a truism that it’s hard to count people that are sitting down.


    Those of you who travel widely, please post EVERYWHERE.

  175. just happen to catch Keith O and Chuck Todd speaking in code to each other about how they have to continue what Tim was in charge of…and how he led the way and set the agenda for how the campaigns were covered bla, bla , bla…

    as if now they must figure out a way to keep the narrative of obama winning and hillary is out going…

    nbc took a big hit today…amazing how life plays out…after all that manipulation they have been doing and now Tim won’t even be around to be gleeful and gloat…you can’t make this stuff up…

    …anything can still happen…

    to hear these people talk the world has come to an end and as todd said …”no one else can cover the campaign – how are we going to get through this election…he said he was so happy they had him to manage the primary season…”

    and then obama chimes in about tim being a good friend of his…he isn’t supposed to be your friend…

  176. To be quite honest, I don’t believe one iota, of what comes out of the BO campaign. Blah, Blah, Blah.

  177. Texan4hillary, there is also this from National Journal:

    When Sen. Joe Lieberman, I/D-Conn., walked into the annual dinner of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee last week, he began almost immediately to hold court among his many admirers. “Our table was swamped all night,” said Lonnie Kaplan, Lieberman’s host and a former AIPAC president. “To get him to the table was a major effort.”


    Lieberman surprised many in December when he endorsed Republican John McCain for president, but others dismissed it as just another step in Lieberman’s march to the right, spurred by a mix of support for the Iraq war and frustration with Democrats who did not support him after his primary loss. The real confusion, however, has come in recent weeks, as Lieberman has gone on the offensive against Democratic candidate Barack Obama, suggesting he is “naive” on U.S. policy toward Iran and its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    “If… anybody thinks you can go over there and sort of talk reason, and hug and kiss Ahmadinejad, and he’s… just going to act better, that’s just naive,” Lieberman told FOX News on May 20. “It’s very naive of Senator Obama.”

    His comments play into hesitation some Jews already have about Obama’s commitment to Israel and his policies toward Iran, raising hope in Republican circles that McCain can garner more American Jewish support than the 25 percent President Bush won in 2004.

    “Lieberman can certainly help with those who are teetering and normally vote Democratic but have some concerns or questions” about Obama, said Jay Footlik, who served as Lieberman’s liaison to the Jewish community in his 2004 presidential bid and later played the same role for Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.

    Having Lieberman on the trail for McCain could sway undecided Jewish voters, especially in places like the swing state of Florida. Lieberman has the potential to play the same role former New York City Mayor Ed Koch did when he endorsed Bush in 2004 over his party’s nominee.

    “I think he’ll have more influence,” Koch said. “His name is more well known than mine, and his involvement in the Senate on so many issues makes him a much more effective speaker than myself.”

    Koch spoke to Jewish groups on Bush’s behalf throughout 2004, focusing primarily on New York transplants in Southern Florida and senior citizens. He joked that during that time, he often needed to remind voters they were not voting against Franklin Roosevelt by choosing a Republican.

    Koch said his influence — which the Bush administration praised for helping push them over the top in Florida — came from being an independent voice respected by American Jews. Lieberman could have the same effect.

    “I think that his endorsement, whatever endorsement he makes on any issue, is highly regarded, especially in the Jewish community,” Koch said.

  178. good job dnc-obama and mccain support a form of privitzation of ss. but mccain admits it wont save ss and e may need to change taxes…

    Fact Check: McCain and Social Security Fri Jun 13, 3:39 PM ET

    WASHINGTON – John McCain has long advocated letting workers divert some of their payroll taxes into private accounts. So when he says now that he won’t privatize Social Security, that raises eyebrows.


    But is he flip-flopping?

    No, not at all. The Republican presidential candidate is playing a game of semantics.

    He doesn’t want to call his plan what is really is — a partial privatization of the Social Security system.

    Democrats play the same game, on the other side.

    They speak darkly and flatly of Republicans plunging Social Security into privatization, subjecting the venerable system to the mercies of the market, and they ignore the voluntary and partial nature of the proposal.

    They ignore, too, that Democrats including presidential candidate Barack Obama propose federal retirement subsidies that would likewise be tied to the ups — and downs — of the stock market. They would do this outside of the Social Security system.


    “I do not and will not privatize Social Security,” McCain said Friday in New Jersey. “It’s not true when I’m accused of that.”

    He said he does want a system enabling “younger workers to take a few of their tax dollars and maybe put it in an account with their name on it. Please don’t let them (the Democrats) twist that.”

    Too late. They’ve been making hay with it for months.

    “Imagine if your security now was tied up with the Dow Jones,” Obama said Friday. “You wouldn’t feel very confident about the security of your nest egg.”


    The Republican plans McCain has supported over the years essentially seek to privatize part of Social Security by letting people invest some of their payroll taxes into private retirement accounts.

    Just how much they could divert is not certain but it’s much more than a “few dollars.” McCain has proposed in the past that up to 20 percent of payroll taxes could be funneled into private retirement accounts.

    The idea has been one of President Bush’s leading domestic policy priorities but he’s never been able to sell it.

    McCain and other Republicans once spoke more openly of “privatization” but realized people didn’t like to hear that. Now they talk of “personal accounts.” It’s the same thing.

    McCain has been more straightforward than many other proponents of partial privatization in acknowledging that the proposal won’t help Social Security’s looming insolvency.

    That will require a solution all its own, such as higher payroll taxes, lower benefits or a higher age to start collecting the payments.

    Neither presidential candidate has laid out a solution but Obama has made a start. He would raise payroll taxes on incomes over $250,000.

    Obama, while keeping Social Security whole, proposes various incentives for people to build up their nest egg in private investments.

    For all the warnings about the risks of the stock market, he, too, sees it as an opportunity for people to retire with more wealth, and is willing to spend billions to help workers save that way.

    McCain once entertained the idea of higher payroll taxes and said he would consider “almost anything” as part of a compromise to save Social Security.

    Now he rules out higher taxes and takes the dodge so often heard from both parties; he’d sit down with the other side and figure something out.


    By CALVIN WOODWARD;_ylt=AuXt1POVo.HgGq7llEiuJhob.3QA

  179. One sure fire way to turn the media against Obama once and for all would be for Hillary and Bill to attend Russert’s funeral. We all know Obama will be too busy to attend.

  180. Jen said:
    We white women are angry and we’re not going to shove it down and pretend everything is OK. We’re not going to push our dreams aside and play like nice little girls for the good of the “family” because the “family” is dysfunctional as hell and we won’t stay in this abusive relationship anymore.

    And part of their scheme is getting Hillary to run as VP for the good of the “party”, covering up the abuse, pretending everything is fine — giving up her own career to enable her abuser and iron his shirt for eight years!

    Petitions for Hillary NOT to be VP:

    h t t p : / /

  181. btw. thanks for the video ^^ . many snowy scenes from carters apple farm in concord, NH. i remember it well. seems like a million years ago. hillary was there with chelsea and her mom.

  182. anag52: “Getting to” a sociopath like Obama is very easy to do, as you astutely point out.

    By definition, such people aren’t emotionally or psychologically stable. Thus it is extremely easy to disturb their fragile equilibriums.

    Remember how Bambi freaked out on Mo Dowd about his ears? There’s a sore spot. It is very obvious Bambs is consumed with his physical being — how he looks and his trying desperately to appear chic and athletic. These are easy lines of attack against a wannabe metrosexual like Bambs.

    Bambi, and his whole outfit, are extremely easy to rattle. Gotta make a new website, “Stop the Smears.” Gotta try to play faux tough guys, “the GOP better not go after Mish.”

    There really is no way to go wrong here in trying to knock Bambi off the balance beam: pretty much any thrust of the rapier will send him sprawling.

    The important thing is to keep jabbing at him, whatever the substance of the jab. His oversensitivity will take care of the rest.

    Admin: Great stuff about Fionina. That is exactly the kind of outreach Mac’s camp needs to do. The bonds are getting stronger among the anti-Obamans and this is an excellent thing. Also, Lieberman is going to be a huge help with Jewish voters going to McCain. As you have noted, the Exodus of big-monied Jewish donors to McCain has begun and I’m sure Joe has had a lot to do with that movement. Fantastic.

    Kostner: Thanks for the info on Dodd/Conrad/Countrywide. Just more drip, drip, drip from the corrupt Bambian cabal. Corrupt people can only hide their corruptness for so long before the truth comes out.

    Jen: Bambi is a scary Disney Deer. Not of himself, of course — he’s just a smile on a stick man’s body. But his pathos makes him very dangerous, both actively and, more to the point, passively. That is, as befits a sociopath, he doesn’t care what is done by his surrogates so long as it benefits him. Death threats, posting pictures of people in hopes of their suffering from the postings, incitements to riot, etc. None of these things bother Bambi who has always been just fine with using any means necessary to clear the ballot and tilt elections his way.

    He is a menace, a punk, a buster. But he and his cult are very real and they need to be dealt with and shut down for the party’s, the country’s and the world’s sake.


    By SchiretegravatarcloseAuthor: Schirete Name: Schirete
    Site: /
    About: See Authors Posts (1) on June 13, 2008 at 11:08 PM in Barack Obama, Democratic party, Hillary Clinton, MSNBC, Media, Media Bias, Misogyny, Obamedia, Sexism

    A group of Democrats are mobilizing to hit the networks, who have publicly and openly shunned and abused Hillary for Obama’s sake despite gross differences in qualifications for the President position. The group is calling for all women involved to write to advertisers on the stations that should they not remove the advertising content, we will boycott their products.

    This campaign will start June 23rd and will go on until advertisers will start pulling their advertising. Following are some companies which presently run advertising on NBC.

    Contacts to more key advertisers will be provided shortly.

    325 Bic Drive
    Milford, CT 86461
    Marketing Dept.
    Phone: 800-992-6141 marketing department
    Fax to Marketing: 203-876-6687

    Combe Incorporated
    1101 Westchester Ave.
    White Plains, NY 10604
    Telephone: (914) 694-5454
    Toll Free: 800-(873)-7400
    Fax: (914) 461-4402
    Fax for Marketing: 914-461-4170

    Listerine Whitening Strips
    Pfizer Consumer Healthcare
    235 East 42nd Street
    NY, NY 10017
    Phone: 1-212-733-2323
    Use Regular Mail – Attn: Marketing Department/Listerine and the above address

    Wal Mart
    702 S.W. 8th Street
    Bentonville, AR 72716
    Marketing Department 479-273-4111


  184. Morning all.

    After watching that fabulous Take it to Denver video (8:47) I feel re-energized.


    BTW, anyone else think it’s awfully coincidental that MO’s the View appearance is scheduled for June 18, the same day as the Larry Sinclair National press Club interview? 😈

  185. Folks,trying to lure back black supporters for Hillary isa lost cause.The network Butcher Shops a.k.a. MSM ,have hired the greatest number of black obama followers and commercial actors ,local and national news readers,talking radio and tv heads in order to keep their flock angry and ruthless.This is a well planned coupe to take control of the broken down DNC,move it to Chicago and reshape it into a black and misguided white to take control of the political system and govern through fear for life and property,Any one of you read history and the facts on the fall of POMPEII?.

    WAke up America. OBama is a dangerous personbeing guided by so very evil and worrisome characters. FIGHT BACK!!!

    By ABM90 We must Elect HILLARY

  186. basil.

    Won’t MO be “Typically Bitter” when everyone is watching LS and not her ! maybe she will go on a rant about the “whitey guy” stealing her show!:D

  187. AOL straw vote recycled starting on Friday. New Poll over 42K have voted and all states are red. McCain leads soundly 59% to 41%. (Yes every state is red). Do you remember South Caroline, and O’s meaningful victory there?? McCain leads that state 68% to 32%, higher than the national average. I wonder what that means? Kinda wonder what O’s victory meant there against HRC?

    Any thoughts?

  188. NewMex, I like that polling report because I like any poll showing BHO losing. I just wonder how much credibility online polls have. Still, it’s nice to see that large of a margin from any source.

  189. This poll is as good as the ones MSNBC and CNN decide to show. His big bump was not there.

    I think there will be a bump if he last until the convention, but then Reps have their convention after (smart).

    Anyway, if this slides to the convention, and he continues to marginalize the Hillary Delegates, the SDs need to really start worrying. What ever he promised them (Unless you got a check and cashed it) might not come true.

  190. Texas4Hillary 3:05

    I went to the OrlandoSentinel, and found some of that information in that article, but I did not find the stuff about not giving the Hillary Delegates the free plane right. Was that in another article, or did I just look wrong.

  191. NMF,
    That article had been scrubbed when i tried to pull it up.
    Djia. So, don’t you think it’s weird?

    A couple of questions!
    What happens if the DNC moves to Chicago and Obamerrhoid loses? Does it relocate back to DC? Who decides that?
    What happens if Obammerrroid puts in his people at the DNC and they lose? Do they get to keep their positions? Who decides on allocation of DNC offices?
    If HRC goes back to the Senate is it true she’ll be the most powerful senator? What does that mean? Is a Senator as powerful as a state governor? More so?

  192. basil9

    By scrubbed if you mean you could not find it, I had to go to the main page, and then I searched for Ausman to find it. But unless that information was at a link about the no plane rides for the Hillary Delegates, the article did not say it. I could have miss interpreded what was blogged, and they were referring to only Florida, and I missed that.

    So, I thought they were going to unit the Florida Delegates, and I thought that would happen by reinstating their whole votes. However, looks like that will happen only of they are allow to plant nothing but O people in them.

    Where Did my Democracy go.

  193. I don’t know what to say about the following report

    WI delegate bounced from National Convention
    by mishiem, Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 09:14:05 AM EST

    Wisconsin democrats voted yesterday to strip Debra Bartoshevich’s status as a delegate to the national convention late Friday evening. DNC and state party rules state that delegates that oppose the party’s nominee will not be permitted to attend party convention as a delegate.

    This is one of the strangest stories that I’ve ever heard, especially considering that Obama won Wisconsin with overwhelming margins. I was honored to be elected to serve as a delegate for John Kerry in 2004 and for the first time, I was able to view the convention not as a spectator but as a participant. At no time did I consider voting against my party’s nominee, in fact, if I did, I would fear the backlash I would receive when I returned home. She was chosen to support her party, not the status quo. I’m not familiar with Ms. Bartoshevich’s background but she obviously lacks political acumen. This is our year and there is no room for games and fake protests on the convention floor. This is not 1968.

    Check out this pearl of wisdom from Bartoshevich –

    “But Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, as reported on its Web site Friday, that Clinton was treated unfairly by the party and she has deep reservations about Obama’s experience, so she’ll vote for McCain”

    Another faux-Clinton supporter who actually believes that since Clinton was victim to some sexist coverage, Obama is to blame. Real Clinton supporters believe in the issues that she championed and support similiar candidates.

    In an attempt to embarrass Obama, the republicans will most likely invite Bartoshevich to attend the RNC’s event in Minneapolis. And we have all beared witness to many stunning displays of sexism courtesy of the republican party. If she feels uncomfortable voting for Obama, how will she feel supporting a party platform that is opposed to equal pay for women, Roe vs. Wade, and permitting women in combat. In fact, the only women that she will see at the republican convention are the plants that they will use on stage for the cameras. Republicans aren’t exactly know for their diversity.

    We need to take a stand against this false narrative in the media that neglects to report the lack of support that McCain is receiving in his party. In the latter primaries, McCain was still losing significant support and he was the only candidate on the ballot still running. No wonder they are losing readership.

  194. meiyingsu Says:
    June 14th, 2008 at 9:31 am

    I thought the nominee was selected at the convention. So when did that change? Otherwise, way do we have a convention, to have one big expensive party?

  195. While I have always been a Hillary supporter I was thinking of the exact moment when I decided in no way would I vote for BHO should Hillary not win the nomination. And it was the subsequent silence on the part of the democratic party that solidified my decision.

    That moment was when Michelle Obama stated “she would have to think about supporting Hillary if she was the nominee”.

    What she did with that simple statement and the following silence from the democratic party in it’s response to it, was release me from any perceived loyalty I might have to them as democrats.

    I suppose I should thank them for opening my eyes before it was too late.

  196. Debbie, I totally agree. HRC and her husband have verbally for a long time bent over backward to say they would support him, and even have made offers.

    His and Her treatment of HRC and Bill has been autrocious, and the DNC likewise. I understand completly where you are coming from.

    Loyalty is a two way street, or so I thought. But for the Clinton’s it has been a oneway street. They have been loyal with very little if any in return.

  197. I decided not to vote for Bambi when he voluntarily removed
    his name from the Michigan ballot.

    He appeared too naive to be CIC.

    After giving it thought, I realize his action was a purposeful act
    to void the results, the raw votes – the voice of the people.
    he’s a sneaky little bast*rd.

    I cannot, under any circumstances, support such a candidate.

  198. “If she feels uncomfortable voting for Obama, how will she feel supporting a party platform that is opposed to equal pay for women, Roe vs. Wade, and permitting women in combat. ”

    This betrays a misunderstanding of the rationale behind voting for McCain. The vote for McCain by Democrats disgusted by the race-baiting and misogyny is a protest vote. It doesn’t matter that the Republicans are so much worse. It is a vote to wake up the Democrats complacent about the support of feminists and the LGBT. There is a sense now that the Democratic Party is decreasing its role as champion of feminist and gay rights causes because gays and feminists will always be in the tank – provided that the Democratic Party remains even marginally better than Republicans.

    That’s not enough. And feminist and gay rights advocates should wake up to this dangerous trend.

  199. Looks like meiyingsu had his/her account phished.

    Bartoshevich is my new hero. With true leaders such as her, we will defeat the Bambian Menace and send their butts back to Chicago, hats in hand.

    Bravo, Debra Bartoshevich. You will be receiving thanks from all corners of our nation for standing up to the Obaman Fascists. Once we rebuff their sorry coup attempt, you and all the others who represent the majority of the voters in the party will be restored to your proper status and clowns such as Pejokeski and Reid will be handed their pink slips.

    Excellent news on a Saturday morning. The anti-Bambi breakwater strengthens by the minute.

  200. The Supreme Court thing (Roe v Wade) isn’t nearly enough. McCain as President won’t be able to appoint a judge who would oppose it even if he wanted to, and that is debatable. The Democrats will control the Senate and thus no one is getting put on the Court that Democrats don’t want.

    This last, desperate ploy by the Obamans is finished. Nothing is going to save Bambi now. The fascist takeover of the White House will not be televised because it’s not going to happen.

    Buh-bye, Bambi. I hope you can find work for all your astroturfing slobs after you get served in November.

  201. Damn, first Michelle is calling Bambi “My baby daddy” in 2004, thus making the latest supposed furor over the Fox “My baby momma”/Michelle Malkin graphic the latest egg on the face of the joke Obamas, but now Malik Obama is flat-out calling his step bro a liar by telling the world about Bambi’s Muslim background.

    Hey Gop, you better watch out — if you dare to bring up Mish then, by golly, the Obama camp SWEARS that it will affix on its on face an even larger red nose.

    Ba ha ha ha! Effing Keystone Cops goofballs. This is going to be so damn fun to watch and participate in, the abject humiliation and dissembling of the Bambians.

    Not that they need any help. Just call on Malik or Bambi’s baby momma and you’re all set.

    Ha ha ha!

  202. Two final things:

    If you ever hear ‘me’ say anything along the lines of what ‘meiyingsu’ just wrote, you know my account was phished.

    Second, and more importantly, someone needs to get Debra Bartoshevich’s contact info. We need to thank her immediately and overwhelmningly.

  203. I found this, the contact email for the WI Democratic Party:

    Here’s the note which I wrote them:

    I am a lifetime member of the Democratic Party who lives in Pennsylvania.

    It came to my attention that one of your members, Debra Bartoshevich, displayed exceptional courage in both standing up for Senator Clinton and in deciding not to support primary popular vote loser, Barack Obama.

    As the numbers show, the majority of the party backed Senator Clinton and thus did not back Obama. We are extremely pleased with Ms. Bartoshevich’s decision to speak out on this matter and I wanted to personally deliver that message both to her and to the WI Dem party.

    Thank you. Millions of us are looking forward to reclaiming our party after the unfortunate but necessary loss we will be forced to suffer on November 4th at the top of the ticket. The grabbing of the DNC and it’s repositioning to corrupt Chicago is merely the latest ‘last straw’ that Obama and his totalitarian cadre have foisting on a dispirited, disunified party.

    Again, thank you to Debra Bartoshevich. Her actions strengthen myself and millions more.

    Still, it’s important that we directly contact Bartoshevich. She is a hero and she deserves our support.

  204. Paul F. Villarreal (AKA Universal) ,

    The purpose that I posted that report in this site is to let Hillfans beware that BHP lead Democratic party to Communist Party.

  205. Good day all…just dashing through…

    Paul, amazing writing all the way down the site

    Meiyingsu….I certainly hope you didn’t get your identity stolen. You are such an important repository of fact-finding. No one does it quicker!

  206. meiyingsu:

    Give it a rest. You’ll never outwit someone like myself.

    I don’t know if you’re a hacker or a plant, and I don’t care.

    What’s obvious is this: You and your fellow Bambians are scared to death of the Bartoshevich story, and rightfully so. So you’re trying to shape the narrative ahead of the story getting larger.

    Sorry, not happening.

    Here’s where you swung and missed:

    Another faux-Clinton supporter who actually believes that since Clinton was victim to some sexist coverage, Obama is to blame. Real Clinton supporters believe in the issues that she championed and support similiar candidates.

    You think Bartosheivch is a ‘faux Clinton supporter?’ Or that Obama ISN’T to blame for the sexist coverage of Hillary? You mean the guy who said “the claws come out” when you attack Hillary?

    Get the f*ck outta here.

    Then this:

    We need to take a stand against this false narrative in the media that neglects to report the lack of support that McCain is receiving in his party. In the latter primaries, McCain was still losing significant support and he was the only candidate on the ballot still running. No wonder they are losing readership.

    False narrative in the media? The only narrative in the media is to get Obama elected. If the media can show that McCain has ANYTHING happening which could be construed as negative, it will get top billing.

    And then you come back with this:

    The purpose that I posted that report in this site is to let Hillfans beware that BHP lead Democratic party to Communist Party.

    Talk about your non sequiturs. There is absolutely NOTHING you wrote in your first post which supports what I just quoted you writing in your second post. How dumb do you think I or others are? Stop, please, you’re embarrassing yourself.

    The point of your post was to try to make Bartoshevich look bad and plant the seed of the ‘fear the party’s backlash if you don’t support their nominee.’

    Shut up. The majority of the party didn’t back Mr. Illegitimate. It’s not often that the majority fears the minority, you know?

    You know who you sound like?


    I don’t think you’re a hacker, either. I think you’re a plant.

    Both you and Sonia play up the ‘innocent, misunderstood’ angle when people catch your BS. You know, Sonia is from India I think the story goes, so maybe there’s something lost in translation or whatever.


    Whatever Obama is paying you it’s way, way too much. But I’m glad that you posted what you did because it gives everyone who reads the board excellent insight into just how much this kind of thing freaks you guys out. Not only did you show your slip, so to speak, on Bartoshevich, you let your whole damn ass hang out. Sad but very educational.

    You guys are falling apart, and it’s a delight to see. Baby Momma can’t keep her mouth shut, Malik be trippin’ on Bambi’s Muslim background and now Bartoshevich.

    This ain’t Chicago and you all don’t have enough digits to stop the dam from bursting.

    Freaking amateurs. All you New Jacks don’t know what the f*ck you’re doing. It’s like watching your child learn how to ride a bike.

    Ha ha ha.

    Norma — thanks. 🙂 I’m looking forward to the McCain/Clinton supporters’ townhall coming up in a few hours.

    Hope everyone (including our plants) is having a great day.

  207. Paul, I’ll be on the call. Now, about meyingsu. Although I cannot be sure of ANYTHING these days, the syntax sounded nothing like her writing….

    I have read a LOT of her posts. They are short and to the point for the most part. It just seemed out of character. But I could be wrong.

    The hills are alive…and it’s frightening….

    so the song goes 😀

  208. Paul F. Villarreal (AKA Universal),

    Some one posted that report on and I reposted here. That was not my writing. I am belong to anybody but BHO.

  209. The vote for McCain by Democrats disgusted by the race-baiting and misogyny is a protest vote. It doesn’t matter that the Republicans are so much worse. It is a vote to wake up the Democrats complacent about the support of feminists and the LGBT. There is a sense now that the Democratic Party is decreasing its role as champion of feminist and gay rights causes because gays and feminists will always be in the tank – provided that the Democratic Party remains even marginally better than Republicans.

    Looking at this in a different way, the vote for McCain will help McCain move the GOP more toward the center. If McCain can get some of our votes by wooing us, he will not need so many Religious Rightwingers, so they will lose influence in the GOP. McCain will probably win anyway, but in the wooing, he may pledge to appoint more women, or give us other things we want — that will change the GOP in a lasting way.

    Similarly, a win by Obama puts his BRazile/Pelosi faction in PERMANENT control of the DNC. They would firm up the rules (under guise of ‘reform’) to make it harder HIllary (or another real Clinton-style Democrat) to be nominated in the future.

    Many Hillaristas are voting for McCain for many different reasons — all of them good, imo. Bringing both parties toward center, preserving the two-party system, opposing Obama because of his terrible character –d preferring a sane, decent McCain in charge for four years over a neurotic puppet….

    What Bush and a GOP congress couldn’t do in 6 years, McCain and a Dem congress sure can’t do in 4 years. Then in 2012 Obama is the Mcgovern of 08, and we’re clear for a REAL Democrat.

  210. When we repost someone else’s writing, please make it clear. Otherwise, it’s hard to know whether it is your writing. Best to post a link also so there is no confusion.

  211. “Looking at this in a different way, the vote for McCain will help McCain move the GOP more toward the center. If McCain can get some of our votes by wooing us, he will not need so many Religious Rightwingers, so they will lose influence in the GOP. McCain will probably win anyway, but in the wooing, he may pledge to appoint more women, or give us other things we want — that will change the GOP in a lasting way.”

    I haven’t thought of it that way. Cool! We’re reforming BOTH parties!!!

  212. meiyingsu:

    If i’m wrong then I’m sorry. As lindax said, I could not tell what was your writing and what was the MyDD’ers writing.

    I think I understand what you’re saying now: This MyDD’er shows how Communistic/fascistic the Bambians are. That makes sense.

    I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. And if I was wrong — and it appears as though I am — I am sorry. I sincerely meant no offense but was just looking out for the site, the cause and the interests of those who don’t know the extent of the subterfuge being engaged in by Bambi’s astroturfers.

    I don’t have any ego about any of this. The only thing I care about is defeating Obama. Everything else is just details.

    Norma: Great. I don’t think I’ll be on the call but I’m eager to hear it and know how it went. The more we can strengthen the ties between the two camps (at least for those of us who will be supporting McCain), the better. And the sooner we will secure Bambi’s defeat and we can start working to primary and general election his supporters. None of that can happen too fast.

  213. lindax Says:
    When we repost someone else’s writing, please make it clear. Otherwise, it’s hard to know whether it is your writing. Best to post a link also so there is no confusion.

    One way to make that really clear, is to put the whole quote in italics. Here’s how to do that:

    quoted material

    (Remove the spaces of course.)

    If doing quotes or italics or cites etc is too much trouble, I hope everyone will just go on doing what they’re doing. I’d rather see useful material posted and Google a phrase to find the source (if I need it), than not have the material posted at all.

    Especially with wonderful foreign posters like meiyingsu and sonia, it’s easy enough to tell what is their own style and what is a quote! 🙂

    Paul, my email is 1950democrat/at/gmail/com

    (Now watch my example on the italics screw up 🙂

  214. Okay, I guess it’s not possile to post an example using the actual brackets used for italics or bold

    Trying with a differet set of brackets. You’ll have to substitute the angle brackets that are on the same key as the comma and the period, that is , and .

    [i] quote [/i]

  215. we are doing a good job, all of us. The DNC is broke. They can’t afford the convention (15 million dollars short on setting the convention). Obama has a lot of work to do with making grounds for women and latinos. the DNC is screwed.

  216. ACtion needed:

    Here is more about the delegate who is still supporting HIllary and needs help. Also some delegate standing up and saying she will vote for McCain.

    h t t p : / /’t-commit-to-vote-for-obama/

  217. Gosh. I read from other sites(I don’t watch MSM myself) the wall-to-wall whining of the death of that pumpkin on NBC is simply unbearable.

    The narcassism of MSM is incredible. Outside the little echo chamber of MSM, pumpkin is absolutely NOTHING. Sure we feel sorry for his family, but does any unhinged person believe he deserves this sort of wall-to-wall Dianna style coverage?

    The reporting of pumpkin’s death has inflicted more pain on ordinary people than the death ifself.

    I’m so glad he’s gone.

  218. When this one will be gone with pumpkin? The narcassism of Obama’s senate ‘friends’ is incredibly amusing.

    They both ran for the White House, though one got closer—much closer—than the other. They both sit on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee with their junior colleague Barack Obama. And if the Illinois senator is elected president in November, they both apparently would like to be his secretary of State. A source close to Massachusetts’ John Kerry, who asked for anonymity when discussing the senator’s political aspirations, says the Foreign Relations Committee’s third-ranking Democrat (and 2004 presidential runner-up) is keen to be the nation’s top diplomat.

  219. I love this…

    John effin Kerry would make a great Sec of State or Def.
    He would bore our enemies to death.

  220. Olbermann and HuffPo Editor Square Off on Couric and Anti-Hillary Bias
    By Noel Sheppard | June 14, 2008 – 13:32 ET

    It seems not everyone in the liberal blogosphere is smitten with MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann.

    Take for example Huffington Post editor Rachel Sklar who on Thursday called out the insufferably arrogant and pompous “Countdown” host for naming CBS’s Katie Couric his “Worst Person in the World” previously reported by NewsBuster Brad Wilmouth:

    Olbermann accused Couric of taking out of “context” comments by NBC correspondent Lee Cowan, who, as he covers the Barack Obama campaign, has said he finds it “hard to be objective,” as she, not naming him, suggested he “find another line of work.” Olbermann, who has attacked Hillary Clinton on several occasions while being softer on Obama, declared Cowan’s reporting to be “utterly objective and accurate,” and castigated Couric for “her own promulgation of the nonsense that Senator Clinton was a victim of sexism.”


    so then asshole olberman talks about sklar @dailykos —

    here is the link –(now i know he is in the camp obama)

  221. Chris Matthews Uses Death of Russert to Display Elitism
    By John Stephenson | June 14, 2008 – 13:10 ET

    where Chris Matthews displays his utter lack of class with Keith Olbermann. While almost every other journalist and blogger on both sides of the political spectrum are giving condolences and highlighting Russert’s deserved credit of being one of the most fair and unbiased journalists of today’s media, Chris Matthews used the opportunity to go off on an anti-war rant. He added insult by comparing him to the “American people” in the sense of being fooled by the Bush administration into supporting the war. Besides displaying how opposite he is than Russert on the subject of bias, he had to go on and add his own elitist touch by presenting himself as a superior journalist.

  222. Keith Olbermann’s rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth “reporting” is one of the funniest sites on cable television’s wasteland of airheaded punditry. The dude should go back to SportsCenter on ESPN.

  223. 1950Democrat, I tried to do the italics as you stated. It didn’t work.

    If I understand correctly, use the greater than and less than signs at the beginning and end of whatever you want to italicize???

  224. Tim Russert…Do you suppose there was a great jealousy on Chris Matthews part toward Russert? Who is Matthews NOT jealous of?

  225. I am sitting her waiting for them to call also. Not as well organized it appears as Hillary’s conference calls where you phoned in.

  226. FOX News is saying that Russert was tough but fair? Do you suppose Roger Ailes and Company even watched the debates on MSNBC back in the fall?

  227. Olbermann is a joke and an embarrassment. He is a paid shill for hire, nothing more.

    You have to understand, too, that it’s personal between him and Couric. Keith — about as deluded as one could be — thinks he should have gotten the CBS news anchor gig Couric did.

    Keith: No one wants to hear you say “he’s not going to get ’em” or any other stupid, puerile, self-debasing catchphrase on the evening news. You have chosen the role of court jester in your broadcasting career and so there you must stay. No network wants their hard news delivered by such a schmuck, and so you never had a shot at the CBS gig, as it should be.

    Olberdork needs to figure out how to fill out his W2 and write a check, among other things, before calling anybody out. If you read the NY Post, it would seem there are other areas of Keith’s life that could also merit some attention.

    What a chump.


    Chris Matthews will never be a senator, at least not in PA. He shouldn’t be a senator from any state, but there is no way that Pennsylvanians will forget what he did to Clinton this year, not to mention his various sexist crap like “come closer to the camera.”

    There was a time when I really liked Matthews and looked forward to his show. Then again, many of us also felt the same way about Olberf*ck once upon a time.

    So much for nostalgia.

    Now Matthews is merely another MSNBC anchor-contestant in the “Who Can Kiss Barack’s Ass the Hardest?” contest. He is a caricature now, someone sans credibility.

    I am sad Lil Rus died, sad for his family but not said for his audience. He and his wife’s hatred of the Clintons was so totally outsized that it had rendered Lil Rus utterly ineffectual as any type of journalist during this election cycle. It is ironic yet fitting that the last memory many will have of him is the on-target parody which Saturday Night Live did of him and NBC co-tanker Brian Williams in their sham Democratic Presidential debate.

  228. Berkeley Vox

    For a candidate that performed so poorly that he could not win the popular vote, where he won Guam by only 7 votes, his stomping ground, pouring millions into the air wave and people budge little you have to ask yourselves what measure the SDs are using. A few do have the courage to say the emporer has no clothes, and of course are being autricized. When Hillary spoke, people listened and changed their minds.

    The chrismatic charm of O is wearing think.

  229. just got an auto call from mccain saying srry u missed the call please join us next time. hah

  230. Just got a phone call, and when I picked up a recording came on saying they had missed me, and would invite me the next time. What is going on.

  231. Just called the number they gave me, and they gave me the press line so I could listen, but not participate. I am on line know hearing them.

  232. meiyingsu says

    “But Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, as reported on its Web site Friday, that Clinton was treated unfairly by the party and she has deep reservations about Obama’s experience, so she’ll vote for McCain”
    Good for her. She hit the nail on the head

    And just for the record, meiyingsu YOU are an IDIOT

  233. Obama summarizes his campaign’s dirty tactics perfectly, in a single sentence — from today’s New York Times:

    [Obama] has also been showing a more pugnacious side, commenting at a Philadelphia fund-raiser Friday night that he was prepared for a fight with Republicans, saying, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

  234. Real smart thing to say in Philadelphia with murder rates from handguns skyrocketing. I am sure Mayor Nutter appreciated that comment

  235. Just listened to the last part of the phone call. McCain was talking about his history of working across party lines, in a bipartisan fashion. Quite a change, from a candidate talking about bringing guns to a fight. Hmmm….. which candidate makes sense?

  236. laney,

    YOU DID NOT come on here, and call our meiyingsu an idiot?
    i know you couldnt have been such a f*cking idiot to do that, i
    just have to believe you made a f*cking mistake.

    cause everybody who’s been on here for longer than a minute,
    knows mei loves hillary, and has been one of hills best supporters…

    if i misunderstood the statement, than i will tell you now to
    forgive me, otherwise, not good…

  237. well i was on that call. all i could think of is we are screwed. mccain talked about school choice-he says thats the way to solve the school issue. let the kids go to atholic school s or whatever. that doesnt work dude. bush tried that in tx-and it failed huge. he said he voted for roberts and alito while didnt. he said its wrong t vote against a justice on ideology. spoke of how he voted for breyer and ginsberg. he said he would work with the dems on nominees. praised the surge that it worked. said roe is wrong. said we need a dialog on the born and unborn. he promise to have many women in his admin and on the bench. ddint give many specifics re healthcare. the call certainly reminded me that he is a conservative. he is for reforming prok barrel . is for green technology. what a suckass election.

  238. birdgal

    said it right. We are between a rock and a hard space. He has to have the legislative body to carry out his decisions. If that is Dem it will be tough.

    Do you prefer what O will do to us, as I don’t know, and the Legislative body will be falling all over themselves worshipping him. That quite frankly scares.

  239. Prominent Democrats and Independents Join “Citizens for McCain”

    ARLINGTON, VA — U.S. Senator John McCain’s campaign today announced a group of prominent Democratic and unaffiliated leaders and activists who have joined “Citizens for McCain,” a new grassroots effort headed by Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) to rally Americans of all political parties to support John McCain’s candidacy.

    “Citizens for McCain is an organization within the McCain campaign for people who put country before political party and support the presidential candidate who has a proven record of bipartisanship,” said Senator Joe Lieberman.

    As part of the campaign’s continued effort to build on growing support from voters joining “Citizens for McCain,” John McCain, along with RNC Victory Chair Carly Fiorina, will participate in a virtual town hall with Democrats and Independents today to discuss John McCain’s record of putting country before political party. Many town hall participants are expected to be former supporters of Senator Hillary Clinton’s campaign. The town hall will be held today Saturday, June 14th at 3:30pm EDT. To participate, the general public should please visit Members of the media should email to receive call-in information.


    Former Phoenix Mayor Paul Johnson (Arizona)
    Former Arizona State Legislator Phil Hubbard (Arizona)
    Mammoth Mayor Craig Williams (Arizona)
    Former Arizona LULAC Director Ray Gans (Arizona)
    Democratic 25th Precinct Chair Silverio “Silver” Salazar (Colorado)
    Adviser to Democratic Presidential Candidates and Georgetown University Professor Robert Lieber (District of Columbia)
    Blogger on Renee Slater (Florida)
    Former Sheriff of Highlands County Howard Godwin (Florida)
    Jewish Outreach Adviser to Senator Hillary Clinton Rabbi Cheryl Jacobs
    Georgia Political Director for Gore-Lieberman ’00 Joseph O’Farrell Jr. (Georgia)
    Former Democratic Des Moines County Chair Bruce Shulte (Illinois)
    Former State Representative Brian Golden (Massachusetts)
    Commander of Newport Memorial-VFW Post 1119 Francis Harding, Jr. (Maine)
    Former Palmyra Budget Committee Member Herb Bates (Maine)
    Former Lt. Governor and State Supreme Court Justice Alexander “Sandy” Keith (Minnesota)
    Former U.S Representative and 2002 Independence Party gubernatorial candidate Tim Penny (Minnesota)
    Former State Representative Steve Wenzel (Minnesota)
    City Clerk Judi May (Mississippi)
    County Supervisor Gary Dearman (Mississippi)
    Alderman Bill Mosby (Mississippi)
    Former State Representative Jim Gamache (Missouri)
    Presiding Commissioner in New Madrid County, Clyde Hawes (Missouri)
    Former Concord Mayor Bill Veroneau (New Hampshire)
    Former Democratic Mayor of Waterford Township George Fallon (New J ersey)
    Former Democratic Committeeman in Warren Township Jeffrey Golkin (New Jersey)
    Former State Chair of Environmentalists for Clinton-Gore 1992 Roberta Weisbrod (New York)
    Former Majority Leader in the State Senate David Carlin (Rhode Island)
    Former Texas Democratic Party Chairman Roy Orr (Texas)
    Elected National Delegate for Senator Hillary Clinton Debra Bartoshevich (Wisconsin)
    Former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Philip Frye (West Virginia)

  240. I heard the last part of the phone call. He is for reforming NCLB, and other educational reforms. Who knows, what will happen? He is a fiscal conservative, which is what, we need now. He believes in protecting the environment, which drives the conservatives crazy (they think, he is a liberal). He will be prudent about Iraq. Roe vs Wade has not been repealed under how many Republican administrations? It will not happen under his administration. If, for some reason it did happen, the decision would revert back to the states. Frankly, I don’t want the Chicago columbine, and the assorted thugs in the White House, nor do I want to see MO, as first lady.

  241. Another key governor(former) takes him out of V.P. talk. The Obama train wreck continues..

    Per A.P.

    HAMPTON, Va. — Former Virginia Governor Mark Warner has accepted the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate and taken himself out of the mix as a possible running mate for Barack Obama.

    Warner Accepts Dem Senate Nomination, Takes Himself Out of VP Running
    Warner made his announcement Saturday at the state Democratic Convention in Hampton after accepting the nomination.

    Warner said, “I have not sought and I will not accept any other opportunity.”

  242. birdgirl i agree, lets just keep the pressure on ob, we need to
    hang in and hope something goes our way…

    if the numbers start really turning towards mccain, we can only
    hope the dems will look at that and freak at the last minute.

    if worse comes to worse and we get mccain, than we get the
    ‘not radical’ candidate that is trying to take over the world;
    and we make peace with it…

  243. kostner, I don’t think Warner was ever in the running. Reason is, Warner and Bambi are on the opposite end of the Democratic Party. Warner is a blue dog Dem. Anti-choice, pro-gun… typical Dixiecrat.

    Obama, I don’t think liberal Dems will be very happy with that selection.

    Warner will run for Prez in 2012 (if BO doesn’t get the nom) or definitely 2016.

  244. skmf12 :)… mei is not here but I’m sure she appreciates it. A little misunderstanding with her posts and she gets called an idiot and an Obamabot.

    Seems clear to me that she was copying/pasting an article. Hell, she even prefaced it with, “I don’t know what to say about the following report”

    I don’t know how much clearer she can be.

  245. Democrats better get used to the question because the number of party members who supported Hillary Clinton’s candidacy but refuse to support Obama may be the difference in the presidential race.

    There are legions of Hillary supporters – polls say up to 18% of the total – who say they will vote for John McCain before voting for Barack Obama. While most experts think that number is too high, even 5-7% would be a huge boost to McCain. For that reason, Wisconsin Democrats at their state convention voted to prevent Bartoshevich from attending the national convention.

  246. Tim Russert: Enough Already!
    Nancy Morgan
    June 14, 2008


    NBC’s Tim Russert died of a heart attack on Friday. Only the deaf, dumb and blind can be unaware of this fact. Ever since the unfortunate death of one of the major players in the field of media and politics, non-stop media coverage has drummed this fact home to millions of Americans. Enough, already.

    This media coverage, still going strong, is becoming quite unseemly. Granted, Russert seemed an affable, good man. I could see this in his eyes the few times I saw him on television. Granted, his death was a shock. A shock that affected me personally, even though I never met the man, as it rudely reminded me of the fragility of life and the importance of time. He died too soon, and if it can happen to him, it can happen to anyone. Life is not fair.

    That said, the continuing coverage of his death has turned into a circus. It is no longer about Tim Russert.

    In a frantic rush to burnish their own social credentials, scores of B and C list players are desperately maneuvering to get coveted national face time. “Tim was a good friend of mine” is the pass word of the day as the networks fill hour after hour with the burnished recollections of has-beens, wanna-bes and actual sorrowing friends.

    These tales, the cute stories, the hitherto unknown tidbits issuing forth ad naseum are less about Tim Russert than about the blind scramble by hangers-on to be considered part of the story, to be considered ‘still relevant’ by virtue of their association with a beloved media figure.

    The coverage of Russert’s death has ceased being about celebrating the life and mourning the death of Tim Russert. Instead, it has evolved into a platform designed to assure fragile egos that they, the media, are still relevant. Every morning talk show, every channel on every network is indulging in a mass celebration of their own importance. And they’re using Tim Russert’s death to do it.

    This orgy of sentiment feels wrong to this writer. Sincere feelings of loss and sadness are to be expected when a respected personage dies before his time. But the orchestrated outpouring currently monopolizing the airwaves is saying more about the media itself than the death of Russert.

    The rush to televise what should normally be private feelings of loss has cheapened Russert’s passing. Just as it cheapens every celebrity who decided to use his passing to bolster their own credentials.

    If I had been lucky enough to have known Russert personally and been his friend, I would hesitate to make hay from his death. I most certainly wouldn’t use a personal tragedy to assure myself and the nation that I’m special by virtue of being part of his circle. Color me old fashioned.

    I’d put my ego on hold out of respect. Respect for a man who accomplished much. Respect for a man who valued family and tried to be the best he could be. That’s all I know about Tim Russert. The cute stories and humble monologues from Russert’s supposed friends and colleagues tell me more than I want to know about them.

    I’ll remember Tim Russert because of the look in his eye. He looked happy and at ease with himself and the world. That is one of life’s most important achievements. I’m sad for him and his family. His family that is rightly doing their mourning in private.

  247. kostner Says:

    June 14th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    I love this…

    John effin Kerry would make a great Sec of State or Def.
    He would bore our enemies to death.
    I love how Dodd and Richardson got tossed to the back of the bus.

  248. Republicans are jumping on Barack Obama for his statement about the Presidential campaign at a fundraiser last night, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

    Yup thats obama–chicago thug

  249. How did Dodd ever become a Senator? He looks and acts like a doofus (more so than Kerry) and I sure as hell wouldn’t want him representing my state. I can’t see him going against any GOP pitbull on the Senate floor.

    Richardson.. grrr. My vein pops up at the sight of his name.

  250. Warner takes himself out of Obama’s VP mix
    Posted: 01:00 PM ET

    Former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, an Obama supporter.
    HAMPTON, Virginia (AP) — Former Virginia Governor Mark Warner has taken himself out of the mix as a possible running mate for Barack Obama.

    GOOD —ask JUDAS —

  251. Sock Monkey Named for Obama Criticized as Racist
    by Associated Press

    SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah company offering online a sock monkey named for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says it didn’t mean to anger anyone with a “cute and cuddly” toy that some are calling racist.

    “We simply made a casual and affectionate observation one night, and a charming association between a candidate and a toy we had when we were little,” according to a statement issued Saturday by Sock Obama LLC.

    Jeanetta Williams, president of the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, called the toy “pure racism at its extreme.”

  252. Do you guys have any guesses as to who will replace Russert?

    My bet is on Andrea Mitchell… however, she is pretty old and I would think NBC wants someone much younger (and male) to helm the MTP for at least another decade.


  253. I don,t know ,i am feeling sad for tim,s family .

    I was listening to news about him and everyone described him as a good person -even though i think he had his favorites -at least in this campaign ,but still ,poor guy died a very sudden death and watching his life story ,things about his son and father gave me tears and i prayed for his peace and for his family,s.

  254. Half Brother Malik Obama Claims Barack Was Raised As A Muslim

    Malik Obama Holding Picture Of Barack(far left) with family members
    Barack Obama’s half brother claims that his brother, Democrat Presidential candidate Barack Obama, was raised as a Muslim. Contrary to the Obama campaign’s assertions otherwise. Malik says he will make a good president despite his Muslim upbringing.

  255. Florida Democrats air intra-party spat
    Jim Stratton

    Sentinel Staff Writer
    June 14, 2008

    An intra-party spat and handful of angry e-mails have ruffled the unity of Florida Democrats as they meet today in South Florida for their annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner.

    The fight focuses on how a small portion of delegates will be selected to attend the party’s national convention in August.

    The Barack Obama campaign would like to replace about a half-dozen people who’d already been selected by the party with Obama loyalists. But Jon Ausman, an outspoken Florida member of the Democratic National Committee, said doing so would hurt party unity and its effort to rally around Obama.

    The argument turned ugly late Thursday when Ausman released excerpts from a series of e-mails he exchanged with Kirk Wagar, a Miami lawyer and Obama’s finance chairman in Florida.

    In those e-mails, Wagar criticizes Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson and rips into Ausman, dropping a handful of obscenities along the way.

    “You [expletive] us,” Wagar wrote to Ausman on June 6. “We are dealing with it. You need to accept the fact that you [expletive] us.”

    About Nelson, Wagar wrote, “I am getting very sick of Nelson making a bad situation worse” and, “Let me be clear as a bell: As of right now, you [Ausman] have made a difficult situation worse.”

    Ausman drew national attention with his attempt to get Florida’s representatives to the party convention reinstated. The DNC had tossed out those delegates as a punishment for holding an early primary.

    After an agreement was reached on how to seat the delegates — each one would get half a vote — Ausman and Wagar began corresponding over who would be seated. Ausman, in the message sent late Thursday to reporters, suggests Wagar became hostile.

    Wagar issued an apology, saying he was sorry for and “embarrassed” by the language he used. But he said Ausman was difficult to work with.

    “At every turn, Jon Ausman demanded his pound of flesh,” Wagar’s e-mail said. “This was about Jon’s ego and his view that control over party rules was his only power.”

    With respect to Nelson, Wagar said that he and the senator also disagreed about the process for selecting the delegates. But Wagar insisted that he didn’t “malign [Nelson] in private nor in the excerpts Jon blasted out.”

    Friday, Wagar said, “I wish I’d kept my cool.”

    Despite the blow-up, Wagar’s spot with the campaign is “absolutely” safe, Obama spokesman Josh Earnest said.

    “My sense,” he said, “is that by the time November rolls around people will realize the stakes are much higher” than “who gets a few hotel rooms.”

    Jim Stratton can be reached at or 407-420-5379.,0,7212736,print.story

  256. Vote for Obama or you’re a racist

    Say it Loud, Say it Proud: I Won’t Vote For Obama Because I Am A Racist!

    It’s becoming increasingly clear what the Democratic campaign strategy is going to be this election season: Vote for Obama or you’re a racist. I’m not sure I think too much of this approach to bullying the American electorate into selecting a candidate. Aside from the fact that, if you’re a Republican, it’s always a mistake to let your adversary define you, it also seems to me to free people from certain otherwise laudatory restraints.

  257. I have to tell you that McCain came off sounding sincere. In other words, he just was having a causual conversation between people he knew and perhaps a lot he did not. He did not sound angry, elite, sad, above us or below us. He spoke with authority on the War, and his last call on the War situation was right. As long as we are not losing daughters and sons, the pull out needs to happen slow. He also said he was not going to raise taxes. For people practically out on the Street, and the eonomy the way it is, this is a major issue. Obama has no idea where half the money he wants will come from. Mac also is environmentally friendly. We have to have that right now, and that kind of goes against his party.

    I don’t expect much in 4 years. I would be happy if we got health care. That would be something he could do with a Dem congress.

  258. What the hell is wrong with these republicans, just when things are looking pretty grim in Obamaland, Black republicans are thinking of voting for him. STOP drinking the water in DC it has been spiked!!

    Black conservatives conflicted on Obama campaign

    WASHINGTON – Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party’s nominee.

    “I don’t necessarily like his policies; I don’t like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it,” Williams said. “I can honestly say I have no idea who I’m going to pull that lever for in November. And to me, that’s incredible.”

    Just as Obama has touched black Democratic voters, he has engendered conflicting emotions among black Republicans. They revel over the possibility of a black president but wrestle with the thought that the Illinois senator doesn’t sit beside them ideologically.

    “Among black conservatives,” Williams said, “they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November.”

    Perhaps sensing the possibility of such a shift, Republican presidential candidate John McCain has made some efforts to lure black voters. He recently told Essence magazine that he would attend the NAACP’s annual convention next month, and he noted that he recently traveled to Selma, Ala., scene of seminal voting rights protests in the 1960s, and “talked about the need to include ‘forgotten Americans.'”

    Still, the Arizona senator has a tall order in winning black votes, no doubt made taller by running against a black opponent. In 2004, blacks chose Democrat John Kerry over President Bush by an 88 percent to 11 percent margin, according to exit polls.

    J.C. Watts, a former Oklahoma congressman who once was part of the GOP House leadership, said he’s thinking of voting for Obama. Watts said he’s still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community. Black Republicans, he said, have to concede that while they might not agree with Democrats on issues, at least that party reaches out to them.

    “And Obama highlights that even more,” Watts said, adding that he expects Obama to take on issues such as poverty and urban policy. “Republicans often seem indifferent to those things.”

    Likewise, retired Gen. Colin Powell, who became the country’s first black secretary of state under President George W. Bush, said both candidates are qualified and that he will not necessarily vote for the Republican.

    “I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate,” Powell said Thursday in Vancouver in comments reported by The Globe and Mail in Toronto.

    Writer and actor Joseph C. Phillips got so excited about Obama earlier this year that he started calling himself an “Obamacan” — Obama Republican. Phillips, who appeared on “The Cosby Show” as Denise Huxtable’s husband, Navy Lt. Martin Kendall, said he has wavered since, but he is still thinking about voting for Obama.

    “I am wondering if this is the time where we get over the hump, where an Obama victory will finally, at long last, move us beyond some of the old conversations about race,” Phillips said. “That possibly, just possibly, this great country can finally be forgiven for its original sin, or find some absolution.”

    Yet Phillips, author of the book “He Talk Like a White Boy,” realizes the irony of voting for a candidate based on race to get beyond race.

    “We have to not judge him based on his race, but on his desirability as a political candidate,” he said. “And based on that, I have a lot of disagreements with him on a lot of issues. I go back and forth.”

    Michael Steele, the Republican former lieutenant governor of Maryland who lost a Senate race there in 2006, said he is proud of Obama as a black man, but that “come November, I will do everything in my power to defeat him.” Electing Obama, he said, would not automatically solve the woes of the black community.

    “I think people who try to put this sort of messianic mantle on Barack’s nomination are a little bit misguided,” he said.

    John McWhorter, a self-described political moderate who is a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute and a New York Sun columnist, said Obama’s Democratic Party victory “proves that while there still is some racism in the United States, there is not enough to matter in any serious manner. This is a watershed moment.”

    “Obama is probably more to the left than I would prefer on a lot of issues,” he adds. “But this issue of getting past race for real is such a wedge issue for me. And he is so intelligent, and I think he would be a perfectly competent president, that I’m for him. I want him to get in because, in a way, it will put me out of a job.”

    James T. Harris, a Milwaukee radio talk show host and public speaker, said he opposes Obama “with love in my heart.”

    “We are of the same generation. He’s African American and I’m an American of African descent. We both have lovely wives and beautiful children,” Harris said. “Other than that, we’ve got nothing in common. I hope he loses every state.”

    Moderate Republican Edward Brooke, who blazed his own trail in Massachusetts in 1966 as the first black popularly elected U.S. senator, said he is “extremely proud and confident and joyful” to see Obama ascend. Obama sent Brooke a signed copy of his book, inscribed, “Thank you for paving the way,” and Brooke sent his own signed book to Obama, calling the presumed Democratic nominee “a worthy bearer of the torch.”

    Brooke, who now lives in Florida, won’t say which candidate will get his endorsement, but he does say that race won’t be a factor in his decision.

    “This is the most important election in our history,” Brooke said. “And with the world in the condition that it is, I think we’ve got to get the best person we can get.”

    Williams, the commentator, says his 82-year-old mother, who also hasn’t voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, has already made up her mind.

    “She is so proud of Senator Barack Obama, and she has made it clear to all of us that she’s voting for him in November,” Williams relates. “That is historic. Every time I call her, she asks, ‘How’s Obama doing?’ They feel as if they are a part of this. Because she said, given the history of this country, she never thought she’d ever live to see this moment.”

    I would never vote for anyone because they looked like me, if they do not think along the same lines as I do then there is no way in hell they would ever get my vote. Stop drinking the kool-ade people!!

  259. Obama’s PACK of 52 DOCUMENTED LIES…and still growing

    52 Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton

    51 Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama’s lying

    50 Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement

    49 Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan

    48 Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
    47 Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn’t familiar with the word “Clintonian”; then changed his story
    46 Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC

    45 Obama said he’d meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he “didn’t have Ahmadinejad in mind”

    44 Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo

    43 Obama’s rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove

    42 Claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did

    41 Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation

    40 Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer

    39 Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did

    38 Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel

    37 Obama claims Church not controversial; he lied since 86

    36 Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA

    35 Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality

    34 Obama denies meeting Saddam’s Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos

    33 Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies

    32 Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied

    31 Obama says he’s consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru

    30 Obama claims he’s above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies

    29 Obama claims his “bitter” remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people

    28 Obama claims never said he wouldn’t wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
    27 Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
    26 Changes story repeatedly re Rezko’s help in buying mansion
    25 Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
    24 Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement

    23 Campaign is beholden to “only the people” as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!

    22 Claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied

    21 Mrs Obama admits she’s never been proud of America; Video disproves
    Sen. Obama’s later claim she was misquoted

    20 Claimed would not run for President

    19 Claims famous in Il. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins

    18 Claims his parents met at Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama’s birth

    17 BO claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003

    16 Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill

    15 Claimed he didn’t know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied

    14 Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied

    13 Denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed

    12 Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bullshit

    11 Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice

    10 Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied

    9 Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times

    8 Claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story

    7 Denies doubling wife’s salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital

    6 Denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him

    5 Denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree

    4 Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied

    3 Claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilige

    2 Claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied

    1 Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied

  260. sonia,

    ‘It’s becoming increasingly clear what the Democratic campaign strategy is going to be this election season: Vote for Obama
    or you’re a racist’.

    we need to start pushing back on that. we have to start telling the


  261. Is Tim Russert More Worthy Than John Aragon?
    By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson Name: Larry Johnson
    About: Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm with expertise combating terrorism and investigating money laundering. Mr. Johnson works with US military commands in scripting terrorism exercises, briefs on terrorist trends, and conducts undercover investigations on counterfeiting, smuggling and money laundering. Mr. Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism, is a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis and risk management. Mr. Johnson has analyzed terrorist incidents for a variety of media including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, National Public Radio, ABC’s Nightline, NBC’s Today Show, the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, and the BBC. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management Magazine, the New York Times, and The Los Angeles Times. He has lectured on terrorism and aviation security around the world, including the Center for Research and Strategic Studies at the Ecole Polytechnique in Paris, France. He represented the U.S. Government at the July 1996 OSCE Terrorism Conference in Vienna, Austria. From 1989 until October 1993, Larry Johnson served as a Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents throughout the world and he helped organize and direct the US Government’s debriefing of US citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Mr. Johnson also participated in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103. Under Mr. Johnson’s leadership the U.S. airlines and pilots agreed to match the US Government’s two million-dollar reward. From 1985 through September 1989 Mr. Johnson worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. During his distinguished career, he received training in paramilitary operations, worked in the Directorate of Operations, served in the CIA’s Operation’s Center, and established himself as a prolific analyst in the Directorate of Intelligence. In his final year with the CIA he received two Exceptional Performance Awards. Mr. Johnson is a member of the American Society for Industrial Security. He taught at The American University’s School of International Service (1979-1983) while working on a Ph.D. in political science. He has a M.S. degree in Community Development from the University of Missouri (1978), where he also received his B.S. degree in Sociology, graduating Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa in 1976.See Authors Posts (662) on June 14, 2008 at 2:43 PM in Current Affairs

    There are many families weeping in America today. A beloved, cherished member of the family is dead. I am thinking of Sgt. John D. Aragon, 22, of Antioch, Calif., who died June 12 in Kadamiyah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered an improvised explosive device. As the Washington media and political establishment mourn the passing of Tim Russert, behaving as if the Pope had died, we should also remember that Tim Russert did not serve the public interest when it really counted. He did a classy job of hosting Meet the Press, but at the end of the day he avoided substantive challenges to the Administration’s propaganda campaign to make the case for war in Iraq. And John Aragon has now paid the ultimate price.

    Tim Russert is not responsible for the decision to invade Iraq–that rests on the shoulders of George Bush. But Russert was a ringmaster in the media circus that helped build public support for the invasion. The so-called “tough” questioning of Cheney might have meant something if Tim, as news director, could have put people on the air and given them comparable time to challenge the Administration’s policy. But he did not. He was playing the role of Jay Leno without the jokes–hosting a talk show–but declining to hold folks accountable for flat out lies. Russert had a bully pulpit but declined to use it. Russert was not the only one. But he was positioned uniquely to help shape public perceptions and his influence in Washington was such that he could have made a difference.. But he did not. He played it safe and he catered to the powerful.

    Check out the transcript of Russert’s so-called grilling of Dick Cheney in September 2002 as the specter of nuclear war was introduced as a casus belli for attacking Iraq:

    MR. RUSSERT: He does not have a nuclear weapon now?

    VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that. I can say that I know for sure that he’s trying to acquire the capability. But again, you know, if this-some people say, “Well, if you’re going to use this process, if you’re going to go through the enrichment process, it could take five, six years maybe.” But then the question is: “Well, when did he start?” Did he start back when the inspection regime was still under way, prior to ’98? Because he did have, for example, a robust biological weapons program then, even though there were inspectors present. Did he start in ’98 when the inspectors left? Has he had four years already to work on this process? Or is he only beginning now? We don’t know that. We can’t tell what the start date is. We do know that he is, in fact, embarked upon this venture. We don’t have any way to know, at this point, to specify the date by which he will actually have a weapon he can use.

    MR. RUSSERT: There seems to be a real debate in the country as to his capability. This is how The New York Times reported comments by Senator Chuck Hagel, a Republican, who said, “The Central Intelligence Agency had ‘absolutely no evidence’ that Iraq possess or will soon possess nuclear weapons.” Is that accurate?

    VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree. I think the accurate thing to say is we don’t know when he might actually complete that process. All of the experience we have points in the direction that, in the past, we’ve underestimated the extent of his program. We’ve underestimated the speed at which it was developing. It’s important for people to understand, as well, too, the difficult nature of the target here, in an intelligence perspective. This is a guy who runs a totally controlled system. There is no-he doesn’t have to go to Congress to get funds appropriated to build a system. It’s a dictatorship. Secondly, it’s a police state. He runs a very brutal regime. Third, he has been very good at denial and deception. He’s good at hiding whatever he’s doing from public view. And therefore, as an intelligence target, it’s an especially difficult proposition for us.

    We have a tendency-I don’t know if it’s part of the part of the American character-to say, “Well, we’ll sit down and we’ll evaluate the evidence. We’ll draw a conclusion.” But we always think in terms that we’ve got all the evidence. Here, we don’t have all the evidence. We have 10 percent, 20 percent, 30 percent. We don’t know how much. We know we have a part of the picture. And that part of the picture tells us that he is, in fact, actively and aggressively seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

    Tim Russert, like many of the Washington elite, had the joy of celebrating his son’s graduation from college. Meanwhile, another young man who is about the age of Russert’s son–John Aragon–gave his life serving his country. While I empathize with the terrible loss suffered by the Russert family, I find the public wailing by the media about Tim Russert unseemly. The media now, with a few exceptions, ignore our soldiers dying in a war they helped sell. In the tragedy of Russert’s unexpected death I simply wish the media would find the decency to serve the public good.

    Russert’s passing reminds us of an unfortunate truth–it is celebrity not actual accomplishment that counts. A 22 year old soldier dying in the line of duty in Iraq is inconsequential because the media has not employed its resources to introduce him to the American people. Let’s remember that like the family and friends of Tim Russert, the family and friends of John Aragon also weep. Sgt. Aragon, we salute your service.

  262. FILBERT,

    yes mei has been very strong, and infact, i would say, she has
    been a warrior for hillary.
    i have very much appreciated both you and mei, over the last year.

    thank you, to you both… 🙂

  263. # filbertsf Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    How can someone be healthy one day and dead the next?

    One can be apparently healthy externally, but be a ticking time bomb in any one of the major internal systems.

    Just to pass along some good health info, taking trace mineral supplements (in colloidal form is the most effective, having a 98% absorption rate) can be one of the most important things you can do. Various specific deficiencies of major and trace minerals have direct causalities to specific medical conditions.

    Of course, “Big Medicine” pooh-poohs this as phony science meant to sell products. But BigMed was laughing at glucosamine/chondrointic/MSM just a few years ago, but now it has become medically accepted. Just like fighting rickets with citrous products.

    Search for “Joel Wallach” on the “interweb” for the low down.

  264. skmf12 Says:

    And you know what in dec 2007 i always thought if not hillary then obama —

    but this elction has me in shock –as u knowmy background indian (where women do get abused)so i always assumed that nobody in our usa can never be harrased or abused and there is no sexism .But i am proven wrong –in our great usa a former first lady is called b**h –i mean the list just goes on and on .

    My issue is why nobody checked mccain_obama,s pen**s sizes like they were picking on hillary,s clevage and ankles –

    When i start thinking of all the things about media ,i really get mad

  265. Specially cafferty and olberman and mathews –i bet you they did not get love from thier moms or thier wives are just too materialistic for them to think of any woman in bad way .

    (No woman is bad -its the men -and circumtances that make a woman take drastic steps )

    And why men call women -ho –its them who are hos sniffing everywhere .
    in this whole world only 11% wealth is owned by women and 89% by men .

  266. I gotta go guys ,i am just getting upset thinking about all those assholes bashing at hillary .
    Everyday i tell myself -to stop blogging ,b/c its been disappointing experience -but i can,t help it -i get pulled to the computer ,b/c there is so much anger agaisnt media,obamas,bots and that rises me every morning and motivates me to blog and share links and encourage everyone else to keep going too .

    I also blog at mccain site now because bote are there already –

  267. sonia,

    people let things pass, and dont want to fight any big fights.
    now it looks like 18 million voters are looking for a fight… 🙂

    and obama happens to be on the wrong side of this fight.
    they thought they could hold onto that race card, and whip it out
    if things got tough.
    they thought, we would all back off, cause we would be afraid
    of anyone branding us racist…


    seems like 18 million of us, dont give a f*ck, cause we arent
    racist, and we arent going to let anyone tell us we are.
    in fact, we caught them being the real racist, when old rev wright,
    videos made prime time.

    so that whole racist thing, not really working out for them… 🙂

  268. rjk1957 Says:
    June 14th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    What the hell is wrong with these republicans, just when things are looking pretty grim in Obamaland, Black republicans are thinking of voting for him. STOP drinking the water in DC it has been spiked!!

    Black conservatives conflicted on Obama campaign

    Let’s see how many are going to be crossing the aisle in what direction…

    Black conservatives, who may not like Obama’s policies, but want to vote for the first black candidate, are doing exactly what they say is “wrong with America”.

    “You shouldn’t vote for someone just because they are your color, your gender, your age. Research the candidates and vote based on merit”.

    Now let’s count all these “Black Conservatives”. How many of them are there in this country? 138?

    Now let’s count the legions who are outraged at the Democratic party, who see them as fixing the nomination, and disenfranchising 18 million voters. This includes the LIFEBLOOD of the Dem party: women, Latinos, middle/lower-class, GLBT, Asian Americans, union members, etc.

    In fact, I bet that the number of African American Democrats who cross over to vote for McCain will outnumber the Republican Obama crossovers, by like 10-1 margin. That’s not just Crazy Talk. Think how many conservative Repubs there are, versus the 10% of AA Dems who did not support Obama in the primaries. If half of that 10% are as angry as we are (and we’ve seen some of them express their feelings here on this web site), that’s easily more than the few black Republicans.

    We are angry enough at the Dems, who don’t represent us anymore, who aren’t willing to stick up for their principles or their constituents, that we are going to exact our revenge by doing some “remodeling” this November.

    “We remember what you did last summer”.

  269. Hey Kirk Wagar:

    “You [expletive] (you);” “You [expletive] (you)!”

    Ah, and Bambi is making metaphors about guns and knives just as his step brother tells the truth about Barack’s “Muslim background.”

    More grist for the mill.

    An look there: Barack’s peeps are looking to sock toys to try to call ‘racist!’ Who would have imagined that?

    Bravo to Mark Warner. Strickland, Bartoshevich, Ausman and now Warner. This is exactly what we need and all these heroes are coming through.

    Texan4Hillary — 4 years under McCain won’t be perfect, but it will be a lot better than being under a lying, corrupt ‘gun’ guy. Many Americans like split governmental power and that is what a McCain presidency and a Democratic Congress will give us. If necessary, a Clinton can clean up after a McCain in 2012. 😉


    I just want to say again that I read meiyingsu’s post wrong, and I was wrong to attack her about it. I made the mistake of reading what was written in her post incorrectly. I’m sorry, I messed up and I shouldn’t have said what I said to her nor should I have invoked Sonia’s name when discussing meiyingsu’s post.

    Kirk Wagar has already told me that “(I) [expletive]” with what I wrote for those who want to know.

    Just like “Whitey” and the guy who’s step brother is exposing his Muslim past to the world, I broke it and so I gotta own it.

    I’m sorry, meiyingsu. And I’m sorry, Sonia. Also I’m sorry for giving other His44’ers the false impression of what meiyingsu had said.

    It was my Bambi (mistake) and I hope you’ll forgive me for it. Sonia has to forgive me twice, if she so chooses, because I have accused her of being a plant before.

    I have made many mistakes, will make many more mistakes between now and Election Day. So long as our country doesn’t make the ultimate mistake of electing Bambi, I am more than ok with my own failures.


    Regarding the black conservatives for Bambi article:

    If this becomes a ‘vote-by-race’ election, Bambi will be thrashed. So I don’t, personally, have any problem with Armstrong Williams saying what he’s saying. Let the working class whites catch wind of Bambi’s AA support creeping up past 92% and see how that works for the Bambians.

    It didn’t work well in places like OH, PA, IN, WV, KY or Puerto Rico. And that was just the primaries.

    Again, if you’re core support is 11% of the electorate, you are in trouble. If you get 9.5% of that 11% or 11% of that 11% doesn’t matter. Because when the other 89% sees what’s going on with the lockstepping and the disavowal of MLK’s principles of content of character vs color of skin, the 11% candidate is going to take a huge drubbing at the polls. See recent polling in the Carolinas and compare that with Bambi’s primaries there for a good reference point.

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