Democrats Prepare To Strike

Action Item 3: While we all work on Action Item 1 and Action Item 2 and other organizational issues it is also time to think a little long term.

Women’s Equality Day will be celebrated on August 26, the second day of the Democratic? National Convention. We need to organize demonstrations on Women’s Equality Day to highlight the misogyny in Big Media and the Democratic Party. We need to, like the civil rights movement, show the misogyny in American society for all to see.

Let’s get the word out. Let’s communicate via our email lists, on blogs and with family and friends. First we need to find out where Women’s Equality Day demonstrations are already being planned. Second we need to organize Women’s Equality Day demonstrations in cities where there are no demonstrations currently planned. We must have a demonstration in Denver.

In this election cycle there was not 1 debate to discuss issues of particular importance to women. Not 1 debate. Hillary was attacked in the most woman hating terms imaginable and the Democratic? leadership stood silent. Obama encouraged the woman-hating attacks. Hillary’s “claws”, Obama said, were out. Mainline women’s groups mostly stood silent. Women leaders such as Brazille and Pelosi and McCaskill, joined in the savaging of Hillary.

Let’s not waste our time writing whiny letters to the DNC – let’s take it to the streets – in Denver.

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Obama incense burners pacify themselves by shutting off their brains, injecting Hopium, and spending a great deal of time writing that Hillary Clinton supporters are racists or Republicans. The Obama incense burners ignore the reality that it is Democrats who believe in the FDR coalition that reject the Brave New World of Obama.

It is Democrats who will go on Strike this NOvember:

The Co-Chairs of University of Iowa Students for Hillary have just sent out a Facebook message imploring the group’s members to vote for John McCain — or, if that’s too hard to stomach, presumptive Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney.

It’s unclear, to say the least, how many of the group’s members will listen.

The author, Cody Eliff, has long been disdainful of Obama. He talked to Ben in December after he went to the comments section of Hillaryis44.com, a blog and hub for Clinton die-hards, to boast about anti-Obama talking points that he created.

The letter attacks the media, Obama campaign workers in Iowa, and Obama, and claims Obama didn’t actually win the nomination but was “appointed by the Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC.”

Our Cody is not alone. [See HERE and HERE and HERE]

Democrats are Preparing To Go On Strike – defiantly – and in some cases quietly:

The presidential race may be topic A, B and C in Washington these days, but some people are just too busy to think about it — particularly, it seems, centrist Democrats from conservative districts, who aren’t exactly eager to align themselves with Sen. Barack Obama.

Rep. Travis Childers, elected just weeks ago in a Mississippi special election, hasn’t endorsed anyone in the presidential race yet. “We have had our head down at work, trying to get our feet on the ground up here,” said Childers’ chief of staff, Brad Morris. “The presidential politics just has not been on our mind.”

Rep. Heath Shuler, a freshman Democrat from right-leaning North Carolina, has also been too busy to endorse. After Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton carried his district in the North Carolina primary, Shuler said he would cast his superdelegate vote for her at the Democratic convention.

Now that Clinton is out of the race? “We’ve gone back to his work up there in the House,” said Shuler spokesman Andrew Whalen. “We’re not really too focused on the presidential [race].”

Obama incense burning endorsers will not escape the wrath of the American People for attempting to foist an unqualified person as president. Republicans will employ the “liberal” name-calling attacks in the same way Obama supporters employ the “racist” name calling attack. But it will not be the issues that matter. The sole issue this NOvember is the Democratic establishment foisting a clearly unqualified nominee on the Democratic rank and file and asking Americans to vote for Obama.

National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Ken Spain said that Democrats who don’t endorse Obama “wrongly believe that by disassociating themselves from Obama that they can escape any criticism or comparison in terms of their liberal positions on issues like their shared support for government-run health care and massive tax hikes.”

The NRCC identified five such Democrats in a statement distributed Tuesday. [snip]

A spokesman for Rep. Tim Mahoney (D-Fla.) told Politico on Thursday that Mahoney will remain neutral. So will Rep. Jim Marshall, a Democrat in a conservative Georgia district. Marshall didn’t endorse Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004, and he won’t endorse anyone this year, either. “Jim, as a rule, doesn’t get involved in other people’s campaigns,” said spokesman Doug Moore.

Louisiana Democratic Rep. Charlie Melancon has yet to endorse Obama. Until Thursday, neither had newly elected Louisiana Rep. Don Cazayoux. “Since coming to office, it has been Rep. Cazayoux’s position to let the presidential primary process play out, which it has,” said Cazayoux spokesman Lewis Lowe. “Now that Sen. Obama is the presumptive nominee, Rep. Cazayoux looks forward to working with him to improve the economy and increase access to quality health care for all Americans.”

Latinos are getting ready to bolt too. Excuses are already being prepared. The Latino leadership knows the latino rank and file will not vote for Obama.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) must commit to helping illegal immigrants achieve citizenship or else risk losing the vital Latino vote in the general election, Hispanic Democratic lawmakers are warning.

If he does not promise so-called comprehensive immigration reform, the lawmakers say, the only other way to win over Hispanic supporters of his erstwhile rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), may be to pick her as his running mate. [snip]

They carefully avoided calling explicitly for Clinton’s selection as the party’s vice presidential nominee, but some indicated that her bond with Latino voters will get them to the polls in November, just as it drew them into the primaries.

“Hillary holds the entire Latino community in the palm of her hand,” said. Rep. José Serrano (D-N.Y.), whose district went heavily for Clinton.

Latino leaders know that Obama’s vision of a new Democratic Party has little room for Latinos. Donna Brazille has made it very clear that latinos are not scripted in her Situation Comedy Party.

But Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), Obama’s Republican opponent, is also liked by Latinos. He co-sponsored with Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) the immigration bill that the CHC is demanding, which would put the country’s 12 million illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship. And he did not buckle under pressure to abandon that position during the GOP primary.

Cecilia Munoz, the senior vice president of research, advocacy and legislation with the National Council of La Raza, said whether McCain can win over large enough numbers of Latino voters is “still an open question.”

“But Latinos are brand-loyal, and after the Clinton brand, the McCain brand is the second-strongest among Latinos because of his military service and his immigration record,” Munoz said.

Latino Democrats, not part of Obama’s situation comedy (white working class voters are also not in the Obama situation comedy) are a must win part of the electorate.

While Obama won the Latino vote in his home state of Illinois and in Colorado, and stayed competitive in New Mexico and Arizona, he was walloped among Latinos — 64 percent to 24 — throughout the 24 contests making up Super Tuesday. In California, Clinton won over Latinos 67 percent to 29.

Latino voters comprised 30 percent of California Democratic primary voters, an increase of 17 percent from 2004. In Texas, the number of Latinos voting in the Democratic primary rose 8 percent, to 32 percent of the electorate, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. [snip]

In the Florida Republican primary, where Latinos made up 12 percent of the total vote and where McCain edged out Romney by only 4 percentage points, the Arizona senator won 54 percent of the Latino vote compared to Romney’s 14 percent.

And many Republicans remember that it was in 2004 when 40 percent of Latino voters abandoned the Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.), to vote for President Bush, Munoz said.

Latino Democrats are preparing to silently go on Strike in NOvember:

Munoz called 2004 the Democrats’ “low-water mark” in pulling in Latino support. The “high-water mark,” she said, came in 1996, the last time a Clinton was on the ticket.

And even longtime Obama backers in the CHC — including Reps. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) and Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) — said that Obama has a lot of work to do in drumming up support among Latinos who are still fiercely loyal to Clinton.

“I have encouraged the [Obama] campaign for a year now that retail politics is very important to us, but they don’t yet seem to have gotten the message,” Gutierrez said. “We really need to see more of that from him.” [snip]

Baca said that if Obama fails to do that, and fails to give his “strongest types of surrogates” in the Latino community the ammunition they need to help seal support for his candidacy, the record Latino turnout that was seen in the primaries could disappear.

We have a tendency to not go to the polls to vote,” Baca said. “[The CHC] can help get them out to vote, and it’ll make a big difference. But in the end it’s up to him.”

Democrats are preparing, both silently and loudly, to go on strike in NOvember.

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  1. Looks like Bambi’s earlier promise to turn Georgia blue is really just a bunch of hot air — McCain has a sizeable lead. From Rasmussen:

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    Election 2008: Georgia Presidential Election
    Georgia: McCain 51%, Obama 41%
    Tuesday, June 10, 2008

    John McCain still holds a substantial lead over Barack Obama in Georgia, according to the first Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state since the Democrat clinched his party’s presidential nomination.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of voters in Georgia voters, generally considered a safe Republican state, favor McCain to 41% who support Obama, with 6% supporting another candidate and 2% undecided.

    McCain is also far ahead in terms of voter favorability – with 61% holding a favorable view of him as opposed to 45% who feel that way about Obama.

    While McCain’s unfavorables total 37%, over half of Georgia voters (54%) view Obama at least somewhat unfavorably.

    George W. Bush won the state twice by double digits. Bill Clinton narrowly carried Georgia in 1992 but lost it to Bob Dole in 1996.

  2. NewMexicoFan, we were going to hold off with #3 but lately there are a bunch of new, allegedly pro-Hillary, websites providing ideas and “to do” lists which are nothing less than time wasters.

  3. Democrats are preparing, both silently and loudly, to go on strike in NOvember.

    nice –informative –

    YOU r right –its time for action

    from now on –i am gonna try to post less of the talk and try doing the actions —

    THX -ADMIN

  4. admin Says:

    June 12th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    ADMIN — would you say “we should try wooing those hill supporters to come to this site “`

  5. Larry Sinclair is going before the National Press Club.

    Bots are trying to stifle him .. TM included.

    Call the NPC tomorrow …. tell them we want to hear what he has to say

    National Press Club at 202-662-7500

  6. This is via Talk Left.

    U didn’t really think BO would consider Hill for Veep, did you?
    Just look what they’re having their on-air Obamabots say;
    That’s why it was Denver – or Bust!

    ABRAMS (6/11/08): Well, let me ask you this. Nancy, if the numbers show—if it’s close by the time he has to make the decision, and the numbers show in the polls that Hillary could make the difference, would that make the difference to you?

    GILES: No. [. . .] No, it’s not worth losing over because I don’t think he’ll lose…I think it would be a real liability. But his whole campaign is new—change, not old politics. And Hillary—look, if he gets Hillary as his VP, he’s got to hire somebody to be the official presidential taster because you don’t know what`s going to be in your food. You don’t know what could happen. I literally feel that way.

  7. admin: did you hear about the million woman march? they haven’t been able to get permits for Denver; no one has. I don’t remember, which website, I saw that on. Anyone else, remember?

  8. June 12, 2008
    DNC moving operations to Chicago
    Posted: 05:05 PM ET

    From CNN Political Producer Alexander Marquardt
    The DNC is making plans to move to Chicago .

    WASHINGTON (CNN) – The Democratic National Committee announced Thursday that a significant part of their operations would be moving from Washington to Chicago, the home of the Obama campaign.

    “We’ve begun a transition period here at the DNC that fully integrates our operations in DC with the Obama operation in Chicago and in the states,” DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney tells CNN. “Our goal is to quickly consolidate these efforts into one operation and effectively drive one national strategy.”

    The political, field and constituency operations are being moved to Obama’s Chicago headquarters, while the research and communications departments will remain in DC.

    After winning the nomination, Obama decided to keep Howard Dean on as chairman of the DNC, and sent over senior aide Paul Tewes to oversee the collaboration.

    “When the nominee comes in, we essentially merge the Democratic National Committee with the campaign of the presidential candidate,” Dean told reporters on Tuesday, “there’s not going to be a coordination problem.”

    Finney emphasized that the goal is for Obama and DNC staffers to feel part of “one big team” and to eliminate any redundancies. She pointed to 2004 as an example of when Kerry campaign and DNC resources wastefully overlapped.

    DNC staffers in Washington will also have the opportunity to work in other states – both the Obama campaign and the DNC have staff in all 50 states and many will work under the same roof.

    “The blending of the cultures is not hard at all, it’s pretty seamless,” said Finney.

    Details are still being worked out, how many staffers and who will technically employ them is still unclear.

  9. Blue Democrat,

    “if he gets Hillary as his VP, he’s got to hire somebody to be the official presidential taster because you don’t know what`s going to be in your food. You don’t know what could happen. I literally feel that way.”

    That is absolutely disgusting. Giles should be called on it. Obama should be up in arms about it. WTH do they think they are doing when they keep attacking Hillary in this way???

  10. I have been on the road all day today, and was listening to Rush while i was driving and heard him talk about the DNC moving to Chicago!…..I couldn’t believe my ears!!! I thought for sure Rush was bullshitting……..but i get home and find that it’s true!!!

    OMG!!!! I don’t know about the rest of you, but this sincerely pisses the F*ck out of me!!!

    it is the last straw that has broke this camels back, I have remained a democrat to vote for mc cain as a democrat
    but now….. I am going to switch over to independant ASAP!!

    I will not be apart of a chicago mob runned party!! nope no way no how!!!

    Audios DNC!!

  11. FYI–

    Dems choose convention delegates at Bohemia
    Modified: Thursday, Jun 12th, 2008
    BY: RYAN CRONK

    Hundreds of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supporters united at the school to elect delegates from the fourth Congressional District to send to the Democratic National Convention on August 25-28 in Denver . About 1,800 democrats attended the five district conventions across the state in Beaverton , Medford, Portland, Cottage Grove and Salem.

    Since Obama won 58.3 percent of the vote in the fourth district, and Clinton won 41.7 percent, the following distribution of national and state delegates reflects those percentages.

    For the national convention, Obama received four delegates (two male and two female) and one female alternate, while Clinton earned three delegates (two male and one female).

    The Obama delegates, followed by their representing county, are: Dean Byers, Douglas , Matt Keating, Lane, Karen Lonon-Jones , Douglas, Nancy Webber, Lane, and alternate Sara Byers, Douglas. The Clinton delegates, followed by their representing county, are: Loyd Henion, Linn, Jonathan Pugsley, Benton, and Joan Demarest , Benton.

    For the state convention, Obama received 37 delegates (19 male and 18 female), while Clinton earned 24 delegates (12 male and 12 female).

  12. BigMac is having a town hall meeting right now .. on Fox. He is really good in this setting. He’s making good points

  13. Hillary makes them all look like kindergardners though. He’s taking on a lot of Hills populist message.

  14. Hawk:

    Go on Fox. This will help to get the message out that those opposed to Obama are not just ‘middle aged women,’ as they wish to try to pigeonhole us as.

    Georgia isn’t in play, never was. Just another lie being propagated by the deluded fools like Cynthia Tucker and other Bambians.

    There is no reshaping of the electoral map. Bambi is going to get his butt kicked whereas HRC would win.

    Just as we have been saying.

    I want to hear what Larry Sinclair has to say, no doubt. He has signed at least one affidavit

    http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/larry-sinclair-affidavit-donald-young-obama-chicago-police-department-breaking-news/

    …and this issue needs to be borne out and resolved. Is Obama tied-up in the murder of Donald Young? I don’t know but I want to find out. Same with Sinclair’s charge that he had a sex and drugs encounter with Obama in 1999.

    The electorate deserves answers to the questions Sinclair raises. If Sinclair is not telling the truth, why are the unhinged Bambians threatening him as someone showed an example of here?

    Good question.

    Just say ‘no’ to the intimidation tactics. The DNC and the rest of the sellouts can move to Chicago, Siberia or anywhere else they want to go but we will press on and Stop Obama, Brazile and any other clown who tries to steal our party via thug methods, race baiting, gay bashing with the McClurkins or any other illegitimate means. No cult leaders or totalitarianism for us. I don’t want my own David Koresh, thanks.

  15. So who is footing the bill for this move. It cannot be the DNC, so I guess O is paying for it out of his campaign funds? I would not think that was legal.

    What a waste of money. An indication of things to come? That is what they are saying about his issues, more tax increases.

    If you don’t pay for moving the DNC to chicago, maybe some of the money could go to feeding poverty children in this country.

    Oh that is right, why worry about heat for the poor people. It is obviously all about O.

  16. So can they or can’t they get a permit for a March?

    What is the true information here. If they can’t, why not?

  17. It’s really sad to see the things being removed from Hill’s website. Her speeches, the press archives, etc.

  18. according the million woman march website

    they wrote today that they have to “apply” to be able to “apply” for a permit

  19. This really is a bunch of crap with the DNC stuff. I am SO MAD about this, as I said in a previous post. It is the OWNERSHIP of the DNC that he permeates. It’s all about HIM now, NOT the people.

    Well…since he has “banned” lobbiests, I guess they won’t have to worry about getting through the thugs at the door.

    I am now SURE he has NO interest in uniting the party.

  20. I am looking for the most viable groups out there…

    we need to work together to change the system.

  21. Bambi and his wife make me need barf bags. I loathe both of them and I am working everyone I know to trounce him in NOvember. He is not what this country needs and his hopium smoking cult has to be stopped.

    BigMedia will do everything they can to cover up, build up polls and try to disenfranchise those who simply cannot stand him.

  22. This is so screwed up. I read McCain’s website and shudder in SO many places. I see Bambi’s actions and I LOATHE HIM ever further.

    I will have to vote for the true American hero and patriot. It has come down to that.

  23. Rove says Bambi didn’t get much bump from his win. LOL

    Rove saying Bambi doing WAY too much attacking for someone who has the wind at his back.

    That campaign is tanking .. slowly but surely.

    Odd that Bambi is allowed to “attack” but anything Hill said to contrast was pounced on

  24. http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/05/aol-straw-poll-june-5-june-13/

    McCain could move to a 11% point lead in this AOL Straw poll. One of the W Coast states has flip to McCain (50/50) Oregon, while they are showing Illinois (50/50). I am not sure why O gets one state and McCain the other. It might depend on the percentage points.

    California and Washington are within 2% points.

    If you have not voted. Flip CA or Washington for McCain. Email this to a friend who lives there.

    McCain is leading nicely in some states. Obama is not. When he does lead, it is very close.

  25. Please check out Larry Sinclair website NOW to see how the strong-arm tactics are now employed on an institution – The National Press Club. Their credentials are now challenged by all-knowing George Soros.

    Soros and Daily Kos are now attacking National Press Club for allowing LS forum on June 18, 2008.

    National Press Club being intimidated by these thugs, and it will only get more severe in the coming days. Please contact the NPC and urge them not to cave to the pressure put on them by $Soros$ and Daily (Communist) Kos

    BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES BECAUSE THE TSUNAMI IS COMING

    The NPC has the right to make their own decisions. Soros doesn’t get to re-write the First Amendment.

    This is why BHO continues to steamroll everything standing in his path. BRUTE FORCE AND INTIMIDATION.

    As Admin says – Democrats will Strike

    Against Intimidation and BHO’s Brave New World Order, led by “beat the drum” major money-talking, money-walking George Soros$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  26. The argument that “his policies” (cough) are so similar to HRC’s why not vote for him make me ill. They don’t realize it NOT the policies (although his lack of skill and UNDERSTANDING in their implementation is a problem) but his CHARACTER and his ATTITUDE and ARROGANCE that turns people off.

    I know THREE people who are voting for Bambi, ONLY THREE. and TWO are Dem Party officials who were for Hillary. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON I KNOW who was for Hillary will vote for Bambi. NOT ONE, and suddenly all the Republicans who would RATHER have voted for Hillary because they couldn’t stand McCain are all over him and plan on voting in droves….

  27. I could never have imagined anyone worse than bush or chaney……….but! Obama takes the entire cake!

  28. curiosityhasme Says:
    June 12th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Please check out Larry Sinclair website NOW

    I have been a regular reader from the begining of LS…….I 100% believe him and can not wait till the NPC !!! 😀

  29. dija:

    What the Hell gives $$$$$$$$$$$$$Soros$$$$$$$$$$$$ the right to tell the NPC what is news worthy? OMG I pray the NPC doesn’t cave to the threats and intimidation. Depends on how bad he can make it OR HOW MUCH $$$$$$HE NEEDS TO PAY OFF those in charge. He ruins lives and careers. This is such a travesty. If there is no story WTF does he care what Sinclair has to say? WHERE IS THE ACLU IN THIS?

  30. djia,
    Good, let the Bots go nuts; shows what a bunch of novice nimwits they are. Now it’ll get more attention.

    I’d say this last week may have been BO’s first where he’s received some razzle dazzle from the media that’s been waiting to pounce, and this served only as gorilla dust, for sure – but it may be the first in 15 months were there were actually a majority of negative stories.

    They’re not handling it well.

  31. get ready for more and more of this control of speech and free thought if Obama becomes the President

  32. birdgal

    I know that, but we also know that the O people go in and influence these votes on the computer. This one is rolling in our favor, and we might just be able to get another % out of this.

    He did not get the bounce he should have, per Rove, and this poll certainly does not give him an edge.I love playing the polling game.

  33. WOW!

    NMF,
    McCain is winning 44 of the states and the 6 Obamerrhoid is leading it’s only within 1 to 5 points!

  34. National Press Club being intimidated by these thugs, and it will only get more severe in the coming days. Please contact the NPC and urge them not to cave to the pressure put on them by $Soros$ and Daily (Communist) Kos

    See, this is the reason why I don’t dismiss the Sinclair story out of hand. When I first came across it, it seemed plausible to me because the psychology matched up with what I know of the big city drug culture in high places, but I just didn’t see how any of it could be proven and without proof there wasn’t really anything that could become of it. Even the Paula Jones scandal was only useful because she was given discovery priviledges but nothing materialized from that until well into Bubba’s second term.

    But, when I see that the thugs are out trying to kill the story, then I have to wonder why? If there’s no there there, then they should just let Sinclair get his 15 minutes and be done with it. It can’t hurt Bambi unless they give it credence.

  35. I had the creepiest experience today on the internet. II was looking at different news site for something OTHER than political news…and almost EVERY SINGLE NEWS SITE I WAS ON the Obama ad, either still or moving or HUGE was right there in the midst of everything screaming MAKE BARACK OBAMA THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    It was HORRIBLE. It was very intrusive and I couldn’t get away from them.

    It freaked me out.

  36. debbie, you commented on my previous post on the last thread that the bilderburg group is right wing and could not possibly be behind Bambi, well the met with Bill before he cinched the nomination as they did with Bush. George Soros is in that group and so is Rockefeller, so the bilderburg group is like the Chicago Combine, it includes both sides of the spectrum. I still say this group is behind Bambi and not McCain, McCain and Hillary represent the people.

  37. LS has paid his fee’s to rent the NPC I don’t think ANYTHING can derail it and it has BO very nervous!

    I noticed, his new website to quell the smears and rumors….. he makes absolutely NO MENTION OF LARRY SINCLAIRE

    WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  38. So I thought he had a policy not to comment on wild rumors (Sinclair, Whitey), so why is he changing his policy.

    He will be looking like he is attacking everthing, and some of it might be untrue. But mentioning them give them press. He evidently thinks the Whitey rumor is hurting him.

  39. djia, i have seen them too, but these were different. These are BIG and they MOVE and they are almost like a COMMAND, not a “Vote for Obama” thing…

    they are HORRIBLE

  40. What the Hell gives $$$$$$$$$$$$$Soros$$$$$$$$$$$$ the right to tell the NPC what is news worthy?

    This is LOL funny to me because Soros has been public enemy #1 for Bill O’Reilly and Fox for years. I sure that they (Fox) have been trying to link the Clinton’s as being in Soros’ pocket or some such. It’s kind of slick how all of Fox’s Public Enemies are now firmly in Bambiland. It’s gonna be impossible to attack Hillary from the Left when she gets the nomination in August because she’s pretty much dumped all that Lefty baggage.

  41. neetabug Says:

    June 12th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    thank you
    I will donate tonight or tomorrow –

  42. Norma,
    How are ya! 😀

    Rush and Hannity were both talking about a media law being pushed through congress by the dems which would, effectively, hamstring any who aren’t spouting politically correct rhetoric. Can’t remember the name of the law, think it’s the Fair Play Rule or something, but what it demands is that ANY listener who doesn’t like ANYTHING a radio host says will have the right to DEMAND equal time for their rebuttal and if the station doesn’t comply it can be fined or even shut-down! guess who’s gonna win THAT battle!!!!!! R and H both made the valid point that it used to be the liberal left protecting freedom of speech and now they’re the ones trying to abolish it. 👿

    Also, does anyone else think the DNC move to Chicago GUARANTEES HRC won’t even have her name introduced at convention????????
    Isn’t this move ILLEGAL?????? Has the DNC ever had hdqrts anywhere other than DC?

  43. there was a caller on rush today “lorainna X” she tells Rush she is one of many new BO opporatives that are
    out there researching and digging to find the dirt on McCain (LOL)

    at any rate she proceeds to tell Rushbo that she knows that BO is holding a “TAPE” of McCain calling the Vietnamese “gooks”

    Rush then says…… OH WOW! and i thought you all were going to fight tough and then zaps her by going to commercial
    and didn’t even say good bye LOL

    comes back from break and says that was out in 2002 and is nothing more than McCain saying that is what they were called back in the day…….BASICALLY NO BIG DEAL

    but sure is telling how “UPSET” Obambi camp is by the “Whitey” tape 😀

  44. NEETA —

    never mind –i found it —the site address is almost same –just little differnt –and i don,t wanna post it here —

    thx

  45. Oh wow, norma i am not sure if i have seen those

    I haven’t been surfing too far lately ……I get this Queezy sick feeling in my stomach when i venture too far on the internet

    Is it possible to get “car sickness” while surfing? funny thing is it seems to only happen when i come across anything supporting obama LOL!!!

  46. dija,

    i heard that caller. What an idiot! And she says she’s part of the Obamerrhoid ESPIONAGE squad! 🙄

    She sounded like a teenager playing paintball and taking it seriously.

  47. Basil

    Espionage squad is that like a escargo and Squid platter?? LOL!!

    I couldn’t remember what they were calling it…….DUMB!

  48. Thanks, it just flipped a few minutes McCain 56% to Obama 44%.

    AOL Straw Poll, over 475K have voted.

  49. Hey Basil! Thats the Fairness Doctrine you are speaking of. I figure if they reverse Reagan, then we can all DEMAND to go on Olbermann, Matthews et al and have OUR point of view aired! Be careful what they wish for!

  50. This will be Obama’s running mate:
    The Queen of Kansas
    http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/victor-lazlo/2008/mar/04/the-queen-of-kansas/

    Governor Kathleen Sebelius has been making a name for herself on the national stage recently, fueling rumors that she is destine for bigger arenas than Topeka, Kansas. Gov. Sebelius is on the short list to be Barak Obama’s Vice Presidential running mate as he gets closer to securing the nomination. Gov. Sebelius has been actively campaigning for Obama on network political talk shows and campaign stops which helped Obama coast over Clinton in the Kansas caucus and Midwestern states.

    In January Gov. Sebelius was bestowed the honor of delivering the Democratic response to President Bush’s last State of the Union Address, which was viewed by millions of people across the world. She has also been making constant headlines with her historic battle against coal plants being built in western Kansas. Currently the Democratic Governor has a 64% approval rating in the traditionally conservative state of Kansas.

    However, Gov. Sebelius’ most telling sign that she is heading for bigger things might be her invitation and attendance at the 2007 meeting of the notorious Bilderberg Group in Istanbul, Turkey. The Bilderberg Group is a collection of the world’s most elite and powerful people who secretly meet once a year among tremendous mystery and security. The conferences attendees are sworn to secrecy and are under strict instructions to not divulge what goes on at the conference to outside sources

  51. Hi Everyone:
    PLEASE HELP ME. My email got totally shut down. Please get this word out everywhere–post info to all your groups.

    I need to let those of you who may be interested know that there is a teleconference
    scheduled for Saturday, June 14th (Bastille Day!) with John McCain for HRC
    supporters at 3:30.
    Here is the access info to register for the call:
    email: teletownhall@johnmccain.com
    OR http://cityhall.johnmccain.com

  52. Just got off the phone with one of the 3 Obama supporters I know. She was FURIOUS about the DNC move to Chicago! LOL!

    Said she can’t believe Obama would take the DNC out of the house of the people (DC) and do that especially when “….he hasn’t even won the nomination”

    ROFLMAO!!!

    and THIS IS an Obama supporter BIG TIME and a member of the local DEC! ROFLMAO!

    Obama judgment strikes again….

  53. Due to severe flooding in almost 50% of the counties and the untimely death of 4 Boy Scouts, several more severley injured, with dozens being treated in hospitals for injuries, the Iowa State Democratic Convention has been postponed from the 14th to a date to be named later.

  54. NMF,

    If you HEARD the absolute clueless adolescent idiocy of Lorraina’s voice you wouldn’t be scared. Obamerrhoids minions are pimpy faced gangly limbed swoonish children.

    Gotta get off. Han and C talking about johnny macs townhall.

    And one day, guys, we gotta do a mass fox emailing about dickie toe-sucking morris appearance on Fox and clue them in that he was an advisor to odinga and was indirectly responsible for the 1000 christian massacre which happened during a march ala MLK orchestrated by mr dickie who evidently didn’t realize there kenya would provide no police protection for protestors.

  55. As Katie Couric agrees with us, charging the media with anti Hillary bias, I’m going to be supportive of her and watch her news broadcast every night to raise her numbers. The men’s clubs went after Hillary so let’s help make their numbers fall. Watch Katie for the news!

    I will fight on for women in business and politics.

  56. Now they are working on another idea

    Check this out
    Over on hcsfjm=National Organization of Hillary Clinton Supporters for John MCCain

    everyone hear about this
    Project: Green Rain For MCcain
    http://www.hcsfjm.com/grfm.html

    On 7-4-08 at least 1 million Hillary Clinton supporters are to send John MCcain $5.44 trying to set a new one day record and relying on MCcains people to relay this effort to the press to send the DNC a signal.

    texasdemocrat // June 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    We should have a matching fund day: 5.44 for mccain and 5.44 for Hillary.

  57. LMAO!!!!!

    Anyone who needs a laugh check the comments at the end of LJ’s blog about the letter rezko sent to da judge.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/12/the-epistolary-rezko/#more-3040

  58. True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

  59. another good and timely one…

    When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck to crush him.

  60. here is Bambi’s running mate:
    The Queen of Kansas
    http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/victor-lazlo/2008/mar/04/the-queen-of-kansas/

    Governor Kathleen Sebelius has been making a name for herself on the national stage recently, fueling rumors that she is destine for bigger arenas than Topeka, Kansas. Gov. Sebelius is on the short list to be Barak Obama’s Vice Presidential running mate as he gets closer to securing the nomination. Gov. Sebelius has been actively campaigning for Obama on network political talk shows and campaign stops which helped Obama coast over Clinton in the Kansas caucus and Midwestern states.

    In January Gov. Sebelius was bestowed the honor of delivering the Democratic response to President Bush’s last State of the Union Address, which was viewed by millions of people across the world. She has also been making constant headlines with her historic battle against coal plants being built in western Kansas. Currently the Democratic Governor has a 64% approval rating in the traditionally conservative state of Kansas.

    However, Gov. Sebelius’ most telling sign that she is heading for bigger things might be her invitation and attendance at the 2007 meeting of the notorious Bilderberg Group in Istanbul, Turkey. The Bilderberg Group is a collection of the world’s most elite and powerful people who secretly meet once a year among tremendous mystery and security. The conferences attendees are sworn to secrecy and are under strict instructions to not divulge what goes on at the conference to outside sources

  61. John Kerry believes in an America where hard work is rewarded.

    another great quote by a famous Democrat?

  62. What Washington needs is adult supervision.
    Barack Obama

    a truer statement has never been made…..

  63. What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.
    Barack Obama

    read the fist line closely…..

  64. I AM FURIOUS THAT MR OBAMA IS GOING TO MOVE THE DNC.
    TO CHICAGO. THIS IS OUR PARTY AND HE HAS JUST HIGHJACKED IT!
    WHAT DO YOU THINK AOBUT E-MAILING OR WRITTING LETTERS
    TO THE SUPERSELEGATES ON HOW WE FEEL AND ASK THEM TO
    NOT SUPPORT HIM AT THE CONVENTION. CALL ME OUT TO LUNCH
    BUT I GOT A FEELING OUR GIRL IS IN THE WAR ROOM WITH HER
    COMANDERS LOOKING OVER THE BATTLE PLAN.

    IF THE TAKE HILLARY’S DELEGATES AWAY FROM HER THERE WILL
    BE AND UPRISING LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN!

  65. my favorite of the modern quotes….

    “The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they’re not.”

    Hillary Clinton

  66. basil9, did you see my last post on the previous thread. Bildeberg was having a meeting near where Obama and Hillary met last week. They say they me at Feinstein’s house, but who else was there? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it was kind of unusual that the summons of the candidates was spur of the moment and soon after that, Hillary suspended her campaign. I think the notorius group has selected BO and there is nothing Hillary can do. Bo will be a much easier target to make into their puppet than Hillary would be!

  67. dot48: ROFL!!!!!! I was looking at TM (I know, bad me), and someone referred to you as a troll. I busted up laughing-you a troll. I think, it takes one to know one. But, you are anything, but a troll.

    here is the exchange:

    Social Security would be farmed out to some stock market company and we’d be broke. Obama would destroy Social Security.

    McCain made some great points tonight.
    dot48 | 06.12.2008 – 7:57 pm | #

    Your points are unsupported by facts and ignore the truth. You are a fool. And a troll. Let it be known that “dot48” is a McCain troll. (he’s not even a regular on this site who defected to McCain; he’s just a troll).
    Mr Unlimited | 06.12.2008 – 8:02 pm | #

  68. You got me there. Can’t remember. I’ve been on the site about three months – almost constantly. : )
    twainwalker | 06.12.2008 – 8:10 pm | #
    some more of the inane conversation: I have to go, to another site.

    No, I’m not trying to argue with you…I actually was hoping that you knew how long dot48 had been on this site. You have to wonder when someone says something like this is reference to the current thread:

    “McCain made some great points tonight.”
    dot48 | 06.12.2008 – 7:57 pm | #

    This was posted here when Taylor’s topic dealt with how problematic McCain’s policies are. It made me suspicious.
    Mr Unlimited | 06.12.2008 – 8:13 pm | #

  69. Think you’re right Confloyd.

    They’re been grooming her, that’s WHY she gave the response to the SOTU! Same people who pulled off the Coup made that selection.

    They’ve made a fundamental miscalculation on what Hill voters will do (especially) when he selects another woman.

    The whole fucking thing is so outrageous I can’t even talk about it.

  70. What gaul to move the DNC to Chicago! What nerve! So Mayor Daley has jurisdiction over hijacked selection of BHO. Mind-boggling that Dean et al don’t think this will have far-reaching effects beyond the HRC factor. TOTAL domination of the party….this is a complete coronation……..utterly disgusting.

    HOW IN THE HELL DOES HE THINK THIS WILL WIN VOTES FROM THE REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS?

    CORRUPTION OF THE MOST AGREGIOUS KIND. WHAT IS REEEEAAAAALLLLLYYY GOING ON HERE?!?

  71. This posting on Hillbuzz, made me cry:

    There is a little bit of Hillary Clinton in all of us now
    Dear HillBuzz,

    This week has been one of the hardest of my life. I haven’t checked my email or answered my phone since Saturday. I know what’s happening: I’m working through the Kubler-Ross stages, because my dream of seeing Hillary Clinton become the 44th President of the United States ended on Saturday when she suspended her campaign. As inspired as I am by all she accomplished, I’m still very sad today that Hillary’s campaign didn’t go all the way. I should have realized how involved, emotionally, I was in all of this, but I just haven’t been the same without Hillary Clinton as an active, daily part of my day. Denial turned to Anger, then Bargaining, then some serious Depression, and now, at last, I’ve come to accept the reality that my champ won’t be leading the party in the fall (at least not this fall).

    All of this is made much, much harder by the guys in my office, Obama fans all, who have spent this entire week ridiculing Hillary Clinton and celebrating her defeat, like a frat party that has, as of Wednesday, not ended yet. You need to know how bad these guys are because, from everything I have personally seen, they are par for the course with Obama supporters. When I came into work on Monday, there was a cartoon on my desk that was clipped out of the newspaper, of Clinton as the Wicked Witch of the East, with a house dropped on her. Someone wrote on it: “You’re girl’s not getting back up this time!” (sic). Whoever it was actually misspelled “your”, and, of course, didn’t leave his name. I then had to endure a parade of these 27-35 year old guys, all from top schools in the east, who stopped by my office to gloat, but they could have just unzipped and pissed all over my door to achieve the same result. I can’t explain it, but there was a primal nature to this, like animals marking territory, or barbarians moving across a battlefield jamming spears into fallen enemies to make sure they were really dead. The hatred these guys felt for Clinton was not about Clinton — and I am going out on a limb saying this because I don’t know what’s inside these guys’ heads, but working with them every day gives me insights — it was about beating down “the bitch”. It was a “take that” moment, the same kind of moment these guys all had when a female VP was sacked at our firm last year because of budget cuts. These guys all went out drinking after that, to celebrate, and they all went out together on Monday night too. On the way out the door, as I still worked in my office, they walked by singing “Ding dong the witch is dead. Which old witch? That Clinton witch!”.

    I’m a 32 year old man who probably hasn’t cried since my mom died 5 years ago. I have to be honest and say I came pretty damn close to loosing it on Monday night.

  72. part II:

    And, it’s not because Hillary Clinton won’t be the nominee, as big of a supporter of hers as I am. It’s because it’s the year 2008, and not only was this treatment of Clinton ALLOWED by the Obama campaign, the DNC, the mainstream media, and the public at large, but it was ENCOURAGED by most, if not all, of the above. At no time did Obama, the DNC, or the execs at the networks rein in the likes of Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Keith Olbermann, or any of the other vile misogynists on the air. The Obama camp never reined in its bloggers, either. I grew up in a pretty bad part of Pittsburgh, so I’ve seen and heard a lot of foul stuff, but a lot of what I read about Hillary Clinton, a United States Senator and former First Lady, on Obama-supporting blogs made me cringe. It was hate speech, directed at her because of her gender, which would have never been tolerated if it was aimed at Obama in racial terms.

    A top female executive at our firm, a Republican no less, stopped by my office on Tuesday and said, “Well, your girl lost.” I thought she was going to let in on me too. However, she continued: “I never thought I’d say this, but Hillary Clinton should be the next president. She won me over somewhere around Ohio. Your party is stupid to pass her up, because she would be great. Next time she runs, make sure to ask me for a donation.” You better believe I will.

    But, I hate sitting here thinking about a next time, or knowing we’ll have to wait until 2012 to help Hillary again. Just thinking that, I realize there’s a lot we all can do right here and right now to help her though.

    I’m a guy who used to spend his Saturdays and Sundays doing as little as possible. After work, I’d race home to catch a game on TV or whatever TIVO taped for me. I ate out a lot, drank way too much, and spent most of my money on the latest gadgets and junk or vacations to wherever. I have a great apartment in an awesome city and all the other things guys my age think are important. But, I realized how much I have changed, how much I have grown as a man, by supporting Hillary Clinton this past year.

    I’ve phone banked for at least one hour a day, every day, since at least Decemember. I did a quick calculation today and realized I must have spoken to 10,000 people on Clinton’s behalf, in 22 states, either in person canvassing, at rallies, online, or by phone banking. My eyes opened to problems I never knew Americans have: more people than I could ever recount who couldn’t afford treatment for simple problems that escalated into life or death situations that were ultimately hopeless. Living in Chicago, I forget how bad things are, economically, in other parts of the country. Listening to people talk about how hard it is to struggle on 1/3 of what I take home each year was sobering. Researching Clinton’s positions on healthcare, the environment, green technology, sustainable energy, and other issues taught me so much about Clinton, this country, and ultimately about myself.

    I’m at home right now typing this and can hear my neighbors — young guys, about 27-30, tops — outside on the back porch drinking beers and having a great time. That would have been me two years ago. But, tonight, I’m trying to figure out how I can keep fighting for the issues important to Clinton, today, tomorrow, and for the rest of my life. Because, and I’ll be completely honest and painfully personnal here, I’m ashamed I never got involved in any of this before. I regret wasting the first 30 years of my life never giving a damn about anyone else or lifting a finger to help. Beer’s great. Going on vacations to ride horses on a beach is great. You know what’s better? Universal Healthcare. JOBS JOBS JOBS. Energy Independence. That’s what’s great.

    So, here’s to you, Hillary Clinton. It took you to get through to me. To inspire me. No matter how hard you were hit, you got right back up and kept fighting, and I know it was not for yourself. You would have quit after Iowa if this had been about you. This was always about the people in America that nobody fights for, that nobody cares about. So, Hillary Clinton went to bat for them, for all of us. She took a brutal beating for it, on a daily basis, by the bullies in the media, the DNC, and the Obama camp. And then, all the frat boys came out to dance on her grave (and piss on my door, let’s not forget) when she suspended her campaign, but the brutality didn’t end.

    So, I’ve got some news for Hillary Clinton, for her supporters, and for the Obama campaign, the DNC, and the media too. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF HILLARY CLINTON IN ME NOW. You pushed her out of the race: congratulations. Can you push me out now too? What about the millions — 18 million to be exact – of people like me out there? People who all demand and deserve better from the Democratic Party. We’re not the Starbucks party for a reason, people: we’re the party of people who can barely pay their rent, not the party of people shopping for their next condo. We’re the party of people who work hard and struggle to stay afloat, not the party of people dreaming about their next tropical vacation. We’re the party of FDR and the New Deal Coalition, not the party of the iPod elites.

    There’s a little bit of Hillary Clinton in me because I’m going to skip my morning Starbucks from now on, save that money, and contribute it to first retire Clinton’s campaign debt, and then funnel it into the campaigns of everyone who has helped her.

    There’s a little bit of Hillary Clinton in me because I’m going to keep blogging in advocacy of Hillary Clinton and everything she stands for, on a daily basis, until I get enough people to join me and do something about the healthcare situation in this country.

    There’s a little bit of Hillary Clinton in me because I’m not going to sit back and watch the Democrats mistreat women and write-off the working class that’s been the backbone of this party since 1932.

    There’s a little bit of Hillary Clinton in me because I can’t imagine ever going back to being the guy that I was, sitting around doing nothing on a Saturday or a Sunday, not when I can be out in my community organizing, doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING, the bring us closer to the goals Clinton’s been fighting for her entire adult life.

  73. I AM SOOOOO DONE WITH THE DEMS.

    NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN SUCH AUDACITY.

    ENTITLEMENT. GRANDIOSITY. NARCISSISM.

    THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS TO STRIKE AGAINST THIS TOTALITARIAN, MARXIST REGIME.

    STRIKE! STRIKE!! STRIKE!!!

    NO MONEY TO DNC – NOT A RED CENT

  74. part III:

    I feel so strongly and so passionately about Hillary Clinton and all that she stands for that I’m seriously going to get her campaign logo tattooed on my arm. I’m a Brooks Brothers, conservative kind of guy who wears a blue shirt every day, with the wildest bone in me maybe tossing a GREEN shirt into the mix once in a while. Never in my life have I ever thought of getting a tattoo, but I have to tell you, something is burning inside me. There is an immense pride I feel to have been part of this campaign, to have met Clinton so many times this year, to have worked so hard on her behalf and to have advocated her for so long. That pride is bursting out, and I want that tattoo to always remind me every day, when I look in the mirror, that Hillary Clinton is out there somewhere, doing something good for the American people. So what the heck am I going to do today to keep up?

    I’ve never had a hero before. I’ve never had someone I admire so much that I’ve actually, without realizing it, changed my entire life (for the better) to follow. It’s truly incredible the inspiration Clinton gives me. The energy I get just thinking about how I can help her, even in my small way, on a daily basis.

    So, yes, I read what you said the other day about being in “winter quarters” now. And that’s how I feel, too. Hillary Clinton is master of a movement, whether the DNC recognizes it or not. There are millions out there like me who are loyal to HER, and to HER alone. She’s OUR CHAMP, and she’s going to inspire us for decades to come. Even when I’m 80, and that tattoo’s so wrinkled and worn, I’ll still be working hard on issues Clinton would have championed, telling my grandkids every day about PRESIDENT Hillary Clinton and her first run for the White House, back in 0-8 — the year I finally grew up, became a REAL MAN, and followed a woman’s lead towards making this the country it should be.

    Hillary Clinton, wherever you are, you probably don’t know what you have done, and the media sure as heck isn’t paying attention, but the real political story coming out of this election is indeed Hillary’s Army of Clinton-to-the-Core believers who won’t ever stop working hard for our champ, or for her vision for America.

    There really is a little bit of Hillary Clinton in all of us now.

    Sebastian, Chicago IL

    Posted by HillBuzz at 8:56 PM Links to this post

    hillbuzz.blogspot.com/

  75. bluedemocrat, I have been researching this since seeing Paul talk about it on here. Most people think the Bilderburg group is republican, but they go with the one they can manipulate. Bill Clinton met with them just before he clinched the nomination, I think that’s why he signed Nafta, Hillary was against it, because she is the true democrat and she is truly for the people. It is a shame that these powers can take another FDR away from us. Hillary would and could go down in the history books like FDR, but these jerks want another BUsh. They also know the people will not put in another republican, so they find a patsy in the democrat side. I am not saying that Bill Clinton was anybodies patsy, but I think he should not have granted Nafta. Sebelius wants thant transamerican highway. This country as we know it is quickly evaporating!!!

  76. Hey all. Thanks Admin for the post. I am not one to go on tv, I would love to, but I never was one for the public eye, only one for behind-the-scenes stuff. We’ll see how it goes, I will keep everyone updated.

  77. If Waffles picks Sebelius, it’ll be a disaster. Everyone’ll know he’s choosing her because she’s a woman and is just pandering to win over Hillary’s supporters. How insulting will that be.

  78. Basil@*: I am confused. The math does not add up. Must be more Chicago politics. Heres what I mean:

    57 states (New Math-by Bambi)
    – 44 states (for McCain)
    – 6 states (for Babi)
    ______________________

    7 states (unaccounted for)

    (Note: if the RBC had jurisdiction you can be sure those 7 awarded to Bambi evern though they dont exist. Have to be insane to vote for these Nazis!)

  79. The move of the DNC is spreading like Wild Fire. Let me get this straight, from now on, every Presidential Candidate the Dems nominate, will be moving the DNC to their home turf.

    I wonder what big donation they can get to fund that?

  80. Is This True
    I REad this post over on pumpac

    #417 wontbackdown on 06.12.08 at 5:39 pm Hey everyone: IS THIS FOR REAL??? I got it from the link posted above at hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/

    “It appears that this email I sent yesterday (below) was on the up and up. I phoned the DNC this morning to ask about the contents of the email. Before I could even get my question out, the VERY RUDE woman on the phone said to me “There will be NO ROLL CALL AT THE CONVENTION, NO CALLS FOR CLINTON VOTES.” I didn’t even tell her I was a Hillary supporter, just asked if all the candidates would be involved in the roll call, and she just assumed I was a Hillaryite. The woman told me ONLY THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE WILL BE VOTED ON.”

  81. THE VOTERS MUST PUT AN END TO THIS FRAUD. IF THESE BASTARDS CAN BREAK THEIR OWN RULES WITH IMPUNITY JUST IMAGINE WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO OUR COUNTRY.

  82. Since when, has there been no roll call at the convention?? I am calling my Senator’s office tomorrow a.m. Diane Feinstein.

  83. I AM GLAD TO SEE THEM TELEGRAPHING THEIR MOVES FOR THE CONVENTION. IF THEY DID THAT AND I WERE A SUPERDELEGATE I BELIEVE I WOULD WALK OUT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESS. I WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO SO AS WELL. BETTER TO ENDURE A LITTLE SHORT TERM EMBARSSMENT THAN SELL THE SOUL OF THE PARTY TO THE DEVIL. ETERNITY IS A LONG TIME.

  84. birdgal…that was a moving letter…

    birdgal and dot48…I have been over at TM on and off for the last few days – old habits die hard, and I guess one wishes things might return as they were…but they are not…the atmosphere is very negative, very insulting, full of the kind of people that Sebastion writes about in that letter about a little bit of Hillary in all of us…

    that Mr. Unlimited you mention and a group of others just want to dominate and argue…

    an Obama admin would be like mind control…it is like blind worship and when you try to point out facts they just come back with trivial brainwashed remarks…

    …very disheartening…scary…

    I have been a democratic activist my whole life, always defending and making excuses for them…he DNC going to Chicago finally did it for me…the Democratic Party has now officially become the Obama Party…

  85. Birdgal: please let me know what Senator Feinsteins office says. If necessary I will call my senators too. This may just be ploy, so I would vet it with the original source.

  86. marie3548 Says:

    June 12th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
    Is This True

    Marie3548…the Obama camp probably already has their people answering the phones at the DNC…it is a coup…they have taken over the party…next they want to control the country…probably move the white house to chicago…

    time for a major, major revolution…this cannot stand…

  87. How could this be, no roll call at the convention. Is this a democracy or what???? Has he already installed a dictorship right before our eyes or what?? I know now that they are moving the DNC and I can bet you the whole convention before August. I only wish Hillary could tell what is UP???? Iknow they must have threatened her or something, what do you guys think???

  88. wbboei Says:

    June 12th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
    I have had more than one occasion to zap mr unlimited on TM. He is dumber than owl shit

    He is one obnoxious poster. Just looking for an argument, and he is very arrogant and self-righteous. I wish I could slap him. There are a few other ones, that could use a detox program

  89. Im sorry folks we are all sunk ducks, the people who decide the presidency have picked Obama. If Obama can fix votes in Kentucky, he can fix them anywhere. IF GWB can fix them in Florida, they can be fixed anywhere. I am betting that the new POTUS will be BAMBI!! They locked away Rezko before anything else could happen and I bet he will not be breathing in a very short time!! It’s fishy folks!!

  90. well if hillary would “unsuspend” they would have no choice but to roll call !!

    if they get away with this I will be donating money and my time to McCain!!

  91. Coward is a figurehead. Not that, he ever did anything, that remotely demonstrated leadership. Another pawn.

  92. Are their any rules for the convention that states a roll call must be called??? Does anyone know if there are??

  93. djia, if Hillary would unsuspend they would have to, I believe she has it over on them and making them have a few of her platforms, like UHC, Green Jobs here in this country. She is fighting for us the only way she can, but I bet its her against them?? I tell she sure has a poker face!!!

  94. I just googled rules for democratic convention and I found a place that has been scrubbed. It was going to tell how and when the rules were amended!! But it is gone.

  95. Norma Desmond Says:

    June 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
    This really is a bunch of crap with the DNC stuff. I am SO MAD about this, as I said in a previous post. It is the OWNERSHIP of the DNC that he permeates. It’s all about HIM now, NOT the people.

    Well…since he has “banned” lobbiests, I guess they won’t have to worry about getting through the thugs at the door.

    I am now SURE he has NO interest in uniting the party.

    *****************************************************
    He hasn’t banned lobbiest, he just hires them.

  96. Djia, We can try to get him impeached, but I can tell we will not be able to anymore than we were allowed to get Bush impeached. Washington, the whole of it is in on this take over. It makes me wonder why Bill C was impeached, maybe he was not one to do everything they wanted. I know that Hillary certainly isn’t!!

  97. My godfather was a party boss in the 1940-60s and was closely aligned with the post WWII generation of politicans in our party. Obviously the world has turned over many times since then but human nature remains a constant. One of the things he used to say was that an honest politician is one who stays bought.

    If that was true two generations ago then it is true in spades today. If we could whistle up Sherlock Holmes and tell we want to know why the power elites in this party would embrace this nowhere man, why ted kennedy would look past his biologhical heirs and designate this joker as his successor and why they are willing to treat him like some kind of caesar you begin to wonder what is really going on. Holmes would probably say follow the money and I wonder if it does not lead back to Soros and some other superrich international capitalists. If so then bambi and those obnoxious bots are simply pupits. If you have ever been in a corporation which is targeted for a take over this is how it feels.

  98. Wbboei, That was an excellent analogy. I know that is what is going on. The North American Union is what the key is. Hillary would not play ball, she is the real truth, not Obama. He sold his sold to the power group to become the first black president. He will be a puppet.
    I don’t know how legally they can’t have a roll call at the convention. Have they thrown the roolz away or what. What will be said by the media, hah, nothing. I noticed Lou Dobbs was on vacation when we were in the last of the campaign. I think they sent him on vacation to keep him quiet. I wish he would bring all this up again. He is onto the North American Union stuff, he’s been talking about for a long time!!

  99. Since we were talking about it yesterday, I’ll post about this development for those who are interested. (Anyone who thinks that discussion of the BHO Birth Certificate is a distraction should skip over this post, thank you).

    From No Quarter:
    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/12/what-does-an-authentic-hawaiian-birth-certificate-look-like/#more-3047

    Very interesting comment in that thread:
    I did not think there was anything to this story until seeing this document.

    This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a “Late” Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate recorded at the date of actual birth.

    In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late “Certificate of Birth”.

    “Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration? As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration: Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth.

    Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event’s occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.

    Perhaps Obama had his typical white grandmother sign an affidavit to submit as evidence of Hawaii birth.

    Why wasn’t there an original certificate filed at the time of birth? Was Barak born in a hospital? The Obots think he was born in a manger.

    An original Hawaii Certificate of Birth has the actual place of birth, i.e. home, hospital, or manger, and the physical address (no PO boxes please)

    An original also has the signiture of the attending physician, or other designated attendee.

    The physical addresses of both parents are also listed on an original Certificate of Birth.

    So, Barak has some splainin to do. What evidence did he submit to obtain this “late” Certificate of Birth.

    The plot thickens…..

  100. So how much money or trouble would it take for someone like Soros to get some “official” person at the Hawaii Birth Certificate Records Department to “make” an official Barack Obama certificate?

  101. I read somewhere that he was actually born in Kenya, and his Mom registered him in Hawaii when he was two weeks old. She was in Kenya and was too close to delivery and was unable to get back here for the birth. Someone needs to look into this allegation. I wish I could remember where I read that>

  102. confloyd

    I posted on that yesterday i think it was, i read this on freedomsenemies site

    they have moved all the obama stuff to obamafiles.com and that information i have been unable to find
    with in the obama information now.

    if its there i can’t find it, and think it has been scrubbed.

    but i know what i read!! it was there before and just wonder ???

  103. This is good — our grassroots, insurgent campaign is beginning to get national press, slowly but surely, just in the past 24 hours. From tomorrow’s NYTimes:

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    June 13, 2008
    Critics and News Executives Split Over Sexism in Clinton Coverage
    By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and JULIE BOSMAN

    Angered by what they consider sexist news coverage of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, many women and erstwhile Clinton supporters are proposing boycotts of the cable networks, putting up videos on a “Media Hall of Shame,” starting a national conversation about sexism and pushing Mrs. Clinton’s rival, Senator Barack Obama, to address the matter.

    But many in the news media — with a few exceptions, including Katie Couric, the anchor of the “CBS Evening News” — see little need for reconsidering their coverage or changing their approach going forward. Rather, they say, as the Clinton campaign fell behind, it exploited a few glaring examples of sexist coverage to whip up a backlash and to try to create momentum for Mrs. Clinton.

    Phil Griffin, senior vice president of NBC News and the executive in charge of MSNBC, a particular target of criticism, said that although a few mistakes had been made, that they had been corrected quickly and that the network’s overall coverage was fair.

    “I get it, that in this 24-hour media world, you’ve got to be on your game and there’s very little room for mistakes,” Mr. Griffin said. “But the Clinton campaign saw an opportunity to use it for their advantage. They were trying to rally a certain demographic, and women were behind it.”

    His views were echoed by other news media figures. “She got some tough coverage at times, but she brought that on herself, whether it was the Bosnian snipers or not conceding on the night of the final primaries,” said Rem Rieder, editor of American Journalism Review. “She had a long track record in public life as a serious person and a tough politician, and she was covered that way.”

    Nicholas Lemann, dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University, said: “I have not had a lot of regretful conversations with high-ranking media types and political reporters about how unfair their coverage of the Hillary Clinton campaign was.”

    Among journalists, he added, the coverage “does not register as a mistake that must not be allowed to happen again.”

    Taking aim from the inside, though, was Ms. Couric, who herself has faced harsh criticism as the first woman to be the solo anchor of an evening news broadcast. Ms. Couric posted a video on the CBS Web site on Wednesday about the coverage of Mrs. Clinton.

    “Like her or not, one of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued — and accepted — role of sexism in American life, particularly in the media,” Ms. Couric said.

    She went on to lament the silence of those who did not speak up against it.

    Candy Crowley, covering the campaign for CNN, said that for the most part, she did not see a drumbeat of sexism in the daily reporting, “but I certainly did see it in the commentary.” Still, Ms. Crowley said, “it was hard to know if these attacks were being made because she was a woman or because she was this woman or because, for a long time, she was the front-runner.”

    The perception that sexism tainted coverage of the Clinton campaign — a view expressed on Internet postings and in conversations among women — appears to be gaining ground more in political circles than in the mainstream news media.

    Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic Party, who says he was slow to pick up on charges of sexism because he is not a regular viewer of cable television, is taking up the cause after hearing an outcry from what he described as a cross-section of women, from individual voters to powerful politicians and chief executives.

    “The media took a very sexist approach to Senator Clinton’s campaign,” Mr. Dean said in a recent interview.

    “It’s pretty appalling,” he said, adding that the issue resonates because Mrs. Clinton “got treated the way a lot of women got treated their whole lives.”

    Mr. Dean and others are now calling for a “national discussion” of sexism.

    Mrs. Clinton may have begun that discussion in her concession speech on Saturday when she said that women deserve equal respect, along with equal pay, and that “there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century in our country.” She was referring to what emerged as conventional wisdom during the campaign that racism is no longer tolerated in America, but sexism is.

    Cable television has come under the most criticism. Chris Matthews, a host on MSNBC, called Mrs. Clinton a “she-devil” and said she had gotten as far as she had only because her husband had “messed around.”

    Mike Barnicle, a panelist on MSNBC, said that Mrs. Clinton was “looking like everyone’s first wife standing outside a probate court.” Tucker Carlson, also on MSNBC, said, “When she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs.”

    The establishment news media were faulted too. The New York Times wrote about Mrs. Clinton’s “cackle” and The Washington Post wrote about her cleavage.

    Ken Rudin, an editor at National Public Radio, appeared on CNN, where he equated Mrs. Clinton with the actress Glenn Close in “Fatal Attraction.” “She’s going to keep coming back, and they’re not going to stop her,” Mr. Rudin said. He later apologized.

    The cable networks do not reach as many viewers as the broadcast networks — 2.6 million per night for prime-time news programs on cable compared with 23 million for broadcast — but their coverage runs in a continuous loop, is amplified by the Internet and is seen by many people involved in politics.

    “Largely, the problem was on cable and in the blogosphere and on the Internet, and that’s a relatively small audience,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania. “But while it was limited, it was limited to influential people.”

    Still, many in the news media say that sexist episodes had little effect on the outcome of the primaries. Instead, they said, Mrs. Clinton’s problem was a flawed campaign.

    Keith Olbermann, the host of “Countdown” on MSNBC, said that while there were “individual, sexist, mistakes,” there was no overall sexism.

    Any suggestion that MSNBC “was somehow out to ‘get’ Senator Clinton is false and unfair,” Mr. Olbermann wrote in an e-mail message. “We became a whipping boy.”

    He said that after Feb. 5, when Mrs. Clinton went on a losing streak, her campaign strategy was to blame the news media, which he said was “its only fuel.”

    Still, he said, there was “constant reflection and analysis at MSNBC, and I must say there was constant good faith in trying to make certain Senator Clinton was not treated unfairly.”

    Many in the news media say it is important to look at the coverage of Mrs. Clinton in the context of the coverage of Mr. Obama. While hers was frequently positive, his was even more so — even “euphoric,” said Mr. Rieder of American Journalism Review. That may have added to the impression that the Clinton coverage was negative, he said.

    Starting in mid-December, 90 percent of comments about Mr. Obama on the three broadcast networks were positive, and 61 percent about Mrs. Clinton were positive, according to a study by Robert Lichter, a communications professor at George Mason University. But as Mr. Obama became the front-runner, things evened out. The study said that by the time Mrs. Clinton suspended her campaign on June 7, they were getting about the same amount of positive coverage, with Mr. Obama at 48 percent and Mrs. Clinton at 45 percent.

    Jeff Greenfield, a political correspondent for CBS News, said that charges of sexism often came through a political prism. “Throughout this campaign, people’s perception of the press has been in line with what they wanted to happen politically,” Mr. Greenfield said. “If my person lost, the press did a bad job.”

    For many of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters, the anger over her treatment has not subsided and they are trying to take steps to minimize sexism in the future. “It’s volcanic,” said Allida M. Black, the director of the Eleanor Roosevelt Papers at George Washington University and a founder of WomenCount PAC, a group that ran full-page newspaper advertisements last month urging Mrs. Clinton to stay in the race.

    “How do we deal with the media who many, many people feel compounded the missteps by the campaign and robbed her of any shot she might have had at the nomination?” Ms. Black said.

    Some are calling for boycotts against MSNBC and CNN, and many are urging Mr. Obama, who addressed racism in a major speech, to address sexism, too.

    In response, the Obama campaign directed a reporter to Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democrat of Florida, who supported Mrs. Clinton but who is now speaking for the Obama campaign. She said Mr. Obama had no specific plans for a speech on sexism, partly because he already incorporates themes of discrimination as a societal problem into his speeches.

    Both the National Organization for Women and Emily’s List, which backs female candidates who support abortion rights, are generating e-mail campaigns to the cable channels when they see sexism. The networks have usually issued on-air apologies.

    “We’re certainly not going to take this lying down,” said Ellen Malcolm, the president of Emily’s List. She said her hope was for a national discussion to focus on “what is fair in the new political world of Internet, cable and traditional news coverage.”

    NOW is starting a campaign to highlight its “Media Hall of Shame,” an online project in which it points to examples of sexist language.

    NOW’s president, Kim Gandy, said her members would remain alert: “We’re going to keep watching because we think Michelle Obama will be the recipient of the same kind of attacks that Hillary was.”

  104. An original Hawaii Certificate of Birth has the actual place of birth, i.e. home, hospital, or manger, and the physical address (no PO boxes please)
    ============================

    ROFL!

  105. Paula,

    One website with lots of HIllary groups is justsaynodeal — dunno if its com or org. camille’s bitterpoliticz has a list too, and a lot of comments, mostly from refugees from taylormarsh.com

    As to Sebilious intead of Hillary for VP — great! ANyone but Hillary! She could be stuck ironing waffle’s shirt for 8 years!

    h t t p : / / pumaparty.com/nohillaryvp/lets-ask-hillary-not-to-accept-vp/

  106. The New York Times article is a disappointment. Why am I surprised.

    If you want to know whether msnbc engaged in a pattern and practice of sexism why in the world would go ask Phil Griffin? He is the head of the parent network. He is also the one who turned a blind eye to all the complaint letters. Do you really believe he is going to admit it and engage i a spectacle of self flagellation. Not likely.

    If you want to get the truth ask someone who knows something about the subject and is impartial. Ask Professor Kathleen Hall Jameison to watch 200 hours of coverage of Hillaary with her trained eye and tell us what she thinks.

    Or do an experiment. Take a clueless ninny like Campbell Brown or an evil nome like Andrea Mitchell. Subject them to the kind of crap deranged people like Matthews or Doberman throw at Hillary. Watch the reaction. Any bets on how long it takes for Brown to burst into tears or Mitchell to go bezerk- no rose garden for you mrs greenspan fort worth stockyards is where you and sad allen belong.

  107. The NYT article completely misses the mark in terms of accurately describing how vicious the coverage actually was, agreed. But one of its points is that Hillary’s supporters are fed up, and are taking action. Insurgent, grassroots campaigns such as the one Hillary’s supporters are beginning to organize need incrementally-beneficial coverage like this, at the start…

  108. “Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic Party, who says he was slow to pick up on charges of sexism because he is not a regular viewer of cable television, is taking up the cause after hearing an outcry from what he described as a cross-section of women, from individual voters to powerful politicians and chief executives.

    “The media took a very sexist approach to Senator Clinton’s campaign,” Mr. Dean said in a recent interview.

    “It’s pretty appalling,” he said, adding that the issue resonates because Mrs. Clinton “got treated the way a lot of women got treated their whole lives.”

    Mr. Dean and others are now calling for a “national discussion” of sexism.

    ***************

    ARE YOU KIDDING? Coward Dean is a joke. He’s Mr. Over-Sensitive when it comes to racism against blacks, and completely tone deaf when it’s racism against whites and sexism against women…or maybe, we should just have a national discussion about how he fixed this race for Obama.

    I hate Howard Dean.

  109. wbboei –

    Good point. I think one thing WomanCountPac should do is ask Phil Griffin how many emails/letters/phonecalls and pleas from viewers did they get throughout the primaries that pointed out the sexism in their coverage, in the media’s tone and in the commentaries.

    I would imagine at this point, we’ve sent millions of messages.

    All they have to do is answer that question.

  110. poor dean-he doesntwatch cable. yeah right. hell watch the big 3 any night and its the same crap. jackass.

  111. I’ve noticed all of a sudden, many people in the media now acknowledging the sexism Hillary faced….now that she has suspended her campaign.

    They think it will woo Hillary supporters back to the DNC.

    Even on a comedy show where they have constantly bashed Hillary for the last 6 months or so now all of a sudden (after Hillary suspends) they are teasing she is the presumptive president? At first when I heard it I was thinking, good, but when I heard it a second time on another day, I wondered why he was doing that? They bashed her constantly while she was in the race. Do they mean it or is this like the big media just trying to appease us.

    Sure you can do that joke now that she has ‘exited’ the campaign.
    Sure you can talk about sexism now that she has suspended.

    The worst types of articles that bother me are the ones that state: thanks for opening the doors for other women. I find them condescending.

  112. Who the hell is Dean kidding when he says he does not watch cable news? Everyone in VT watches cable news. Back in the late ’80’s I lived in Vermont and the only way to watch television was with cable because of the poor reception. So pretty much the way people of VT got news was via cable news.

  113. “…teasing she is the presumptive president? At first when I heard it I was thinking, good, but when I heard it a second time on another day, I wondered why he was doing that? They bashed her constantly while she was in the race. Do they mean it or is this like the big media just trying to appease us.”

    I want to amend this statement. I love hearing she is the presumptive president….but did they really have a change of heart or is this just appeasement?

    Will they still say that when Hillary wins the nomination at convention?

  114. For Christ sake’s, they trying to cover their asses.

    Sexism was ONLY used as one weapon in an arsenal of anti-Clintonism.

    They’re hoping to a) morph all negative Hill coverage into ‘sexism’ and a bogus discussion about it, and b) say they didn’t personally take part, and (much later) spoke out about it.

  115. I was reading an article earlier and why someone like Obama wants to talk to the looneys in Iran is beyond me.

    Did you know in Iran that A boy is held punishable from the age of 15 and a girl from the age of 9. 9? WTF, guess he likes the sexism? They hung two 15 year old boys last year for being gay and hundreds more before that. Iran is supposedly party to two international treaties that outlaw the execution of those who were under the age of 18 at the time of their offence. Guess they didnt bother paying attention to that either.

    It makes me mad when you hear assholes like Obama trying to say he will negotiate with these people. The thing is he is so green at about foreign policy to know that “YOU CAN’T” they can and will just do what they feel like like they don’t give a shit about law. I know, i’ve lived and travelled as an american in this region for a long time, you will not change their attitudes.

  116. Stay strong and the prize and don’t forget that your vote and support has been taken for granted by Howard Dean/Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid and other Democratic Leaders who quest for power for the HARD LEFT is very telling in their abandonment of basic fundamental democratic principles developed and fought for over decades.

    It was the Democratic Party that threw women rights under the bus this election and it was deliberate decision that those groups thrown under the bus would come back home and take the abuse again because of the old carrot of Roe vs Wade and the supreme court. Yet, the DNC AND THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS were the first one to engage in using sexism and mysoginy as acceptable political tactic for 2 years with blatant approval by MSM propaganda.

    When TRUST is BROKEN there is no credibility only excuses and silent agreement.

  117. go that right Carby. The thing is i don’t see why anyone should pledge allegiance to a party over all because frankly you should feel free to coose the best person regardless, blind loyalty is the stupidest mantra of all time.

  118. just as we knew, the international press not buying the buullshit

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/41735,opinion,barack-obama-the-political-chameleon

    What happened to the man of change?
    Barack Obama’s stance on Israel exposes his agenda for change as a sham, says Alexander Cockburn

    On June 3 Barack Obama claimed the greatest prize the Democratic Party can offer, namely his nomination as its candidate for the presidency. The very next day the salesman of ‘change’ raced from Minnesota back to Washington and publicly abased himself at the feet of an organisation whose prime mission is to ensure that change unpalatable to the state of Israel will never be pressed by the United States government.

    Well we did warn everyone that he was a lying bastard and would swerve 180 degree’s before you could say it.

  119. The UK papers actually saying what the rest of us think

    What happened to the man of change?
    Barack Obama’s stance on Israel exposes his agenda for change as a sham, says Alexander Cockburn

    On June 3 Barack Obama claimed the greatest prize the Democratic Party can offer, namely his nomination as its candidate for the presidency. The very next day the salesman of ‘change’ raced from Minnesota back to Washington and publicly abased himself at the feet of an organisation whose prime mission is to ensure that change unpalatable to the state of Israel will never be pressed by the United States government.

    The terms of Obama’s surrender before the American Israel Public Committee exploded like rhetorical cluster bombs across the Middle East. To Israel and its Arab neighbours it surely signalled that, whoever moves into the White House next January, there will be no swerve from Bush’s role as guarantor of Israeli intransigence.

    Before he began his drive to the nomination Obama took good care to get the support of

    influential American Jews in Chicago like the Crown family, associated with the aerospace firm, General Dynamics. Worried about rumours fanned by the Clinton campaign that he was still a secret Muslim, Obama insisted that before the April 22 primary in Pennsylvania, a state with a politically significant Jewish vote, his campaign start a Hebrew-language blog in Israel.

    So Obama came to this year’s AIPAC conference determined to dispel all remaining doubts that he’s a Friend of Israel. “We will also use all elements of American power to pressure Iran,” he assured AIPAC. “I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon… Everything and I mean everything.” He swore he wouldn’t talk to the elected representatives of the Palestinians, Hamas. To thunderous applause he declared, “Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.”
    As Uri Avnery, the veteran Israeli writer expostulated furiously in the wake of this last sentence, “Along comes Obama and retrieves from the junkyard the outworn slogan.
    Undivided Jerusalem, the Capital of Israel for all Eternity’. Since Camp David, all Israeli governments have understood that this mantra constitutes an insurmountable obstacle to any peace process. It has disappeared – quietly, almost secretly – from the arsenal of official slogans.

    “No Palestinian, no Arab, no Muslim will make peace with Israel if the Haram-al-Sharif compound (also called the Temple Mount), one of the three holiest places of Islam and the most outstanding symbol of Palestinian nationalism, is not transferred to Palestinian sovereignty. That is one of the core issues of the conflict. On that very issue, the Camp David conference of 2000 broke up.”
    Obama’s foreign policy advisors were tearing their hair out and the next day his campaign issued a clarification. “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with”. All the same, Jerusalem in Obama’s eyes must be the capital of Israel.
    Although Obama’s statements at AIPAC got wide coverage across the Middle East, what was obvious here in the US was the utter absence of comment in the mainstream press. It was evidently taken as a given, unworthy of editorial remark, that a man who might very well be the next president was de-activating the policy of ‘change’ precisely where it is most needed at the behest of the men the popular TV comedian Jon Stewart edgily derided as “the elders of Zion”.

    Obama’s most egregious talent is the ability to adapt his rhetoric with ominous speed, to allay any suspicion among the powerful that he could rock the boat in a way they might not care for. Earlier in the campaign he was criticised for not wearing the American flag as a lapel pin. At the AIPAC event he wore a double lapel pin, with both the US and Israeli flags.
    Is there a ‘real Obama’ waiting to emerge, once the messy business of pleasing the voters is over? Not really. The making of the ‘real’ Obama is an ongoing project, and the AIPAC speech an important marker in the evolution of ‘change’ into immobility.

    Well we did warn all you press he was a lying sack of shit, no one payed attention!

  120. So the chairman of the dnc does not watch cable news and there fore is not informed about the most highly contested nomination process ever!!!!! Personally I find the admission of ignorance more offensive than the abscence of a response.
    Also a great big thankyou to Spike Lee as several older men leaning Obama have informed me that they are finished as a result of his anti-eastwood tirade. Somehow it was possible for them to ignore race baiting up to now, but this was the proverbial straw. Oh and I checked none own a gun and all make at least 6 figures and will be voting repug for the first time.

  121. Is contibuting to Hill a waste? Thought about passing my stimulus check to her but would the money be better spent to McCain? As a 41 yr old gay man I am taking a bit of pleasure saying fu to the dnc. Every threat with regards to conservative court appointees only solidifies my resolve to never ever vote for obama. I will n ot be held hostage by the likes of brazille./dean/pelosi!!!!

  122. At the time of the Oprah-colliseum love-fest, I recall finding Maria Shriver’s “commercial” promoting her hubby the CA Guv to be in such poor taste. You remember – she “just woke up that morning, and decided this is the place she needed to be?” She was the “surprise” guest? GMAFB. Looking back now, they all realize BHO doesn’t meet the residency eligibility requirements, but that will all change once he takes office. Arnie’s next, and she’ll be MO’s successor. I mean, the whole Marxist thing has been orchestrated for the past several years, while we TRUSTING Democrats were “asleep at the wheel,” believing our elected representatives were looking out after OUR best interests. Yeah, right.

    On an even more appalling note (every day just brings a new and more stinging slap in the face):

    I C A N ‘ T B E L I E V E T H E N E R V E O F M O V I N G T H E D N C T O C H I C A G O S O T H E Y C A N F U R T H E R S A B O T A G E T H E P A R T Y A N D N A T I O N M U S T B E A F R A I D O F W I R E T A P P I N G A R E Y O U W A T C H I N G FI T Z G E R A L D ? M O S T L Y T O K E E P A N Y H I L L A R Y M O V E M E N T S H U T D O W N T H I S S P E L L S S-T-R-I-K-E

  123. 2 6 A U G U S T 2008 Million Women March
    Denver, Colorado.

    So how do we make this happen?????

  124. How many times can we be robbed of our Democracy before we do something about it.

    The Democratic Party acts like they speak for us, and they will determine what we say.

    Everyone should be mad as Hell.

    The move of the DNC to Chicago is wasteful and stupid. How many more ways can this right wing group rape the DNC before they realize it.

  125. From the Chicago Sun Times.

    Headline:
    SMEAR: She Never Said Whitey.

    time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/06/the_whitey_lie.html

  126. henry:

    Giving money helps hillary’s debt; mccainn also needs help….
    ….I suggest give both of them something….

  127. Good Morning All-

    Here’s more on the Obama Takeover of the DNC…sorry if this is a duplicate, but WOW…talk about a coup and arrogance.

    FDR would be rolling in his grave….

    Obama moves quickly to reshape DNC

    Ben Smith, David Paul KuhnFri Jun 13, 4:28 AM ET

    Barack Obama’s move to merge key elements of the Democratic National Committee into his own campaign’s Chicago headquarters appears aimed at the goal of a centralized and united Democratic Party.

    The shift of the DNC’s political and field organizing operations to Chicago will consolidate the Democratic presidential campaign apparatus more than in either of the last two cycles, when staffers at DNC headquarters overlapped – and occasionally competed – with aides to Al Gore and John Kerry.

    Obama’s move also seemed aimed at producing minimum conflict: The DNC didn’t immediately fire any of its staff, and Obama’s aides have publicly embraced DNC Chairman Howard Dean’s vision of a party competitive in all 50 states. But it also left no doubt about where the new center of power lies: On the 11th floor of an undistinguished office tower on Michigan Avenue.

    “We’re looking at every way possible that we can most efficiently run this campaign,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

    DNC aides publicly welcomed the transition, which is a standard effect of any presidential nomination.

    “I don’t think anyone could have ever predicted what’s about to transpire,” said DNC chief of staff Tom McMahon, who predicted that the combined Obama and party campaign would “dwarf” Democratic efforts in 2004.

    The move to Obama’s headquarters puts the Windy City squarely at the center of American politics for the first time since it was the scene of a Democratic Party meltdown at the 1968 convention. Then and now, it’s a city whose central political feature – top-down machine control – is one legacy Obama has taken from his allies in the reigning Daley family. His campaign has been a model of leak-free discipline and clear lines of authority from the candidate and his guru, Chicago-based David Axelrod, through his campaign manager David Plouffe and a tight-knit staff.

    Dean’s Democratic National Committee, meanwhile, has won the affection of state party officials by dispatching paid organizers to supplement state party staff in every state in the country, and has worked to update databases of voters. But it has been outmatched by the muscular Republican National Committee – which benefits from control of the White House – in fundraising and communication. In those latter areas, the RNC – in a mirror image of the Democratic side – has filled gaps in Senator John McCain’s smaller organization.

    Now, Obama’s large, deep-pocketed effort seems set to absorb and transform the committee’s key functions, and to reshape it after its own model, and largely on its own turf—though Obama’s former Iowa state director, Paul Tewes, will remain in Washington to oversee the party’s fundraising and media operations there. Obama’s aides credit part of their success to the Chicago location, with its relative isolation from the national media.

    “Pulling people into the same city is a good idea,” said David Wilhelm, an informal adviser to Obama who served as Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign manager in 1992 and is also a former DNC chairman. “It can have a very important effect on the outcome. A seamless level of coordination and collaboration between the national, state, and presidential campaign itself will mean the ground game can be effective and the 2 to 3 percentage points that can be the difference between winning and losing.”

    But the move to Chicago also inspired some concern among Democrats who would prefer the party play a larger, independent function, and not merely serve the nominee.

    “The DNC has responsibility beyond the presidential campaign—to senators and governors and members of the House of Representatives as well as state parties–and when you dismantle the DNC and move it to the same location of the presidential campaign headquarters, there could be an implication there that the move is being made to capture the DNC wholly for the presidential campaign,” said Donald Fowler, who served as DNC chairman during the 1996 presidential election.

    Recalling the friction with the 1996 Clinton campaign over allocating more national party resources to the presidential race, he said, “I would be leery of the DNC forsaking their interest in all of these offices to focus exclusively on the president campaign.”

    Obama’s DNC takeover extends beyond Chicago and Washington. His campaign is also expected to take control of the elements of state Democratic Party operations that are financed by the DNC as part of Dean’s “50 State Strategy,” according to state and national party officials. Those officials said the campaign would likely absorb the party staffers only in battleground states, and state officials were still absorbing plans Thursday.

    “The Obama campaign has obviously demonstrated they know what it takes to win. Streamlining and centralizing the DNC political staff makes a lot of sense to me,” said Joe Werner, executive director of the South Carolina Democratic Party.

    Some state officials were less excited about the prospect that party staffers would report to Chicago rather than the state parties, but none voiced major objections.

    “If that’s the case and the DNC has signed off on it, that’s the way it’s gotta be,” said Abe Amoros, political director for the Pennsylvania Democratic Party.

    A Democratic official said Obama would also focus on steering large contributions from wealthy donors to the committee’s coffers, which could then be used to pay some staffers in Chicago and in the states. Obama aides whose work does not involve “direct advocacy,” but focuses instead on, for instance, fundraising or turnout, may shift to DNC job titles and email accounts, while DNC staffers may shift to Obama’s campaign.

    But the key aides will be working side by side in the sprawling cubicles in Chicago, effectively part of the same organization, a move that many Democrats praised as a welcome departure from the party’s balkanized tradition. One former DNC chairman, Steve Grossman, however, expressed concern that the demand that staffers leave their families behind in Washington to head to the center of power in Chicago – a common situation for Obama aides – would drive away some DNC staff.

    But Obama seems intent on avoiding the organizational woes of earlier Democratic campaigns. His campaign has valued centralized power over creative tension, and his internal motto is “no drama.”

    And so the shift will be a marked departure from 2004, when tensions between the DNC and the Kerry campaign sometimes ran hot.

    “They were both in Washington, but they might as well have been in different cities,” said one Democratic official, who noted that in key states the organizations sometimes duplicated their efforts – and occasionally stepped on one another’s toes.

    In a mark of their divergent visions, then-DNC Chairman Terry McCauliffe later called Kerry’s failure to unseat President George W. Bush “one of the biggest acts of political malpractice in the history of American politics.”

    Avi Zenilman contributed to this report.

  128. Taylor’s site has been hacked.

    taylor Marsh has been hacked by the following Obamabot:

    1923TURK

    HACKED 1923turk_turkishwarriorr

    If you click on the link, you’ll be diverted, just FYI. Obama’s new “internet war room” in action, I guess. No Clinton supporter is safe from the Obama-droids. Vicious little bots, aren’t they?

  129. Hillfans, beware this kind of propaganda.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/13/101341/916

    it basically says that gop better give BHO the presidency. if not your party will be destroy because you deny the first black man to become the president of USA.

    McCain has is in destroying Obama. remember “hillary is in destroying Obama before

  130. Obama Deploys Volunteers
    “Moving to harness the grass-roots energy that helped win the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign will deploy 3,600 volunteers in 17 states this weekend, each committed to six consecutive weeks of full-time political work,” according to the Washington Post.

    “In return for a promise to give the campaign at least six weeks of their lives, they were promised training in community organizing techniques.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/12/AR2008061203658.html

  131. while i was on the road yesterday driving past many corn fields i kept noticing these little green/black/white post signs
    they caught my attention due to their logo on them

    then i realized where Obama xeroxed his logo from!!! check it out

    http://www.agpartners.com/

  132. BHO camp launches the following campaign:

    if you go negative to BHO, you will be toasted. better jump on Obama wagon. better lose this election than be painted as racist for decades to come. bla bla bla…

    “Simply put: Republican strategists who think that business-as-usual — i.e., the slanderous politics of the past 30 years — will take care of matters this time around are deluded. Worse than that, they will doom the reputation of the Republican Party and turn it into a marginal footnote of American history if they keep trivializing this historic event. That is too bad because, as I said, we need a two party system.”

  133. I am getting very, very tired of these arrogant and pompous threats. The BO campaign has used some of the most racist, sexist, divisive, and hateful techniques of any campaign ever. This is going to get very heated. No dissent allowed, is a hallmark of facism. I am fearful for our country.

  134. Check this out it was found over on Obama’s website it has been scrubbed
    72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:URodhaDcfJgJ:my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarloscruz/gG5BSr+Barack+Obama+Socialists+Juan+Carlos&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=safari

  135. Now, Obama’s large, deep-pocketed effort seems set to absorb and transform the committee’s key functions, and to reshape it after its own model, and largely on its own turf—though Obama’s former Iowa state director, Paul Tewes, will remain in Washington to oversee the party’s fundraising and media operations there. Obama’s aides credit part of their success to the Chicago location, with its relative isolation from the national media.
    *****************************************************
    To the MSM you’ve got served and played for a fool! The Obama crowd that you did not write about or vet the candidate is a bunch of violent radicals who are MARXISTS and COMMUNISTS in their BELIEFS and are looking to OVERTHROW the present political system by inside the system.

    Obama is all about power and greed and TOTAL CONTROL and he will do it but he knows that he can’t do it under a bright light but in darkness. It’s no secret that Chicago is the base of some of the nation radicals on both political fronts and this WEAK, CORRUPT DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP made a deal with the DEVIL and THROWN the PEOPLE’S WILL under the bus Because of their greed.

    Now see how KING OBAMA HAS CO-OPTED the DNC FOR HIS NEEDS ONLY and FORGET ANYBODY ELSES RIGHTS OR CONCERNS that is why NANCY PELOSI/HARRY REID/ and ANY OTHER WEAK LEADERS who ALLOWED THIS COUP TO OCCUR SOULD EITHER RESIGN FROM THEIR POSISTION or be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE.

    THIS is a MAJOR, MAJOR ATTACK TO OUR DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW!!!!

  136. I wrote many months ago on this blog that I believed that the Obama crowd was simply using the current infrastructure to take over the Democratic? Party and that when that occurred, Dean, Pelosi, Reid and all the other fools would be thrown under the bus.

    Now we sit and wait. I’ll give Howard Dean another week to survive, despite BO’s statement that “HE will KEEP Dean on as Chairman”

    Anyone want to bet a copy of the Goebbels Greatest Hits?

  137. marie3548,

    what BHO and dean do to the democratic party is very similar to what communist party in China did ti his people in China . scary.

  138. Brazille’s statement of the “New” Democratic ? Party was a promise.

    We see it has been achieved.

  139. God I wish some Party LEADERS would come out and condemn these tactics.

    Where has the backbone in this country gone?

  140. Here’s the rub… Obama has not been ELECTED to ANYTHING yet. He is acting like he is KING, not a NOMINEE

  141. I expect a big red “X” to be spray painted on my front door if the Obama Field Ops folks come by and ask me for my vote and I decline.

  142. Howard Dean has got to be the most out-of-touch “leader” the Democratic? party has ever had. He’s an elitist jerk, living inside a bubble, and now he’s trying to pretend that “gosh, I had no idea that media coverage of Hillary was so sexist! Thanks for telling me! I don’t watch TV!” etc. What a complete idiot.

  143. As per their usual modus operandi (M.O.), Obama & Axlerod will continue to let their minions do their dirty work for them. When things get to hot to handle, these minions–Dean et al…will be thrown under the bus and sacrificed in the name of the new emperor. Nothing will touch this false idol, although maybe if someone is brave enough to throw some water on him, we will hear him yelling: “I’m melting! I’m melting!”

    Those who have struck comparisons to Hitler’s evil machinations, are right on the mark!

  144. The move to Obama’s headquarters puts the Windy City squarely at the center of American politics for the first time since it was the scene of a Democratic Party meltdown at the 1968 convention. Then and now, it’s a city whose central political feature – top-down machine control – is one legacy Obama has taken from his allies in the reigning Daley family. His campaign has been a model of leak-free discipline and clear lines of authority from the candidate and his guru, Chicago-based David Axelrod, through his campaign manager David Plouffe and a tight-knit staff.
    *****************************************************
    To all states government that think the CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE is a GREAT idea to move to the NATIONAL level….raise your hands. Have ONE FAMILY DOMINATE the Political Power for DECADES then STAND UP.

    IF you think it is a good IDEAL to remove the DNC from the agreed NEUTUAL location that the FOUNDING FATHERS DESIGNED arbitrarily, then raise your hand and STAND UP.

    BUT if you believe this is WRONG then SPEAK OUT and CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES about the COUP happening under their WEAK Noses.

    YOU HAVE RIGHTS TOO…IT’s Not ALL ABOUT KING OBAMA. Remember they THREW WOMEN And EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE BUS. They should not be TRUSTED to FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS and CONCERNS.

  145. meiyingsu Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
    marie3548,

    what BHO and dean do to the democratic party is very similar to what communist party in China did ti his people in China . scary.

    That is true this is a Democrtic Party modern day
    Coup d’ etat

    We seriously need to figure out what percentage it would take to overthrow this election to MCcain these forces are really fighting to keep Hillary out if so and I hope that we still have a chance with Hillary we must defeat this communist marxist style of Chicago Daly dirty style of politics.

  146. The Repubs are probably laughing their heads off about this. I’m just shaking my head at the hopeless audacity of Obama! His mantra should be: Down with Democracy!

  147. Sorry birdgal,

    I wasn’t trying to be flippant. I realize how dire the situation is.

    We need Hillary Clinton more than ever now!

  148. So Ron Paul has just announced that he is pulling out of the Presidential Race.

    So where will those Supporters go?

  149. Where is Hillary?

    I cannot believe what is going on…I just called DNC myself and said this Chicago move is the last straw…the Democratic party has become fascist…what happened to obama’s bit about an admin from the bottom up…this is a complete coup and in the most corrupt city in the country…

    the democratic base has to be made aware of how dangerous this guy is…now he will be controlling all the states…how can anyone run against him…there will be no opposition…this dwarfs any clinton machine…

    and now they expect the repubs to start to worship him too…msnbc talking about the poll where the whole world wants him…WTF? have we all gone crazy? this is a guy who has barely completed one term in the senate that he won by a fluke against keyes…

    this worship stuff is very, very dangerous…these college kids, AA and rich libs are taking us over a cliff and they have no idea…

    i am just waiting to see how this VP slot gets handled…somehow the dem base has to understand what is going on behind the scenes…the brainwashing of the democratic party and its demise…

  150. new mexico

    there are many ron paul people where i work. they hate McCain. i keep telling them we must join forces to beat the BO new world order. some ron paulers have told me they even considered voting for hillary (when she was in the race) over McCain. how screwed up is that?

  151. I just read the N.Y. Times article on sexism. I consider it a start, at least. Not surprising Griffin, Olbermann and the

  152. BTW, I know Hillary’s campaign made strategic mistakes and she had her share of gaffes. The problem was, her coverage was so much worse than Waffles’ it’s appalling.

  153. Here’s a good point made by SusanUnPC at No Quarter on Waffles moving the DNC to Chi-town (which scares me, frankly).

    What it means most of all is that if Obama loses in November — as we predict because the GOP has every intention to expose Mr. Obama’s shady dealings and longtime extremist associates including, reports McClatchy, questioning “Obama’s judgment and character” in choosing allies like Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers — the Democratic party will be left in a shambles, cut off from its roots and Congressional allies in Washington, D.C., bereft of leadership, broke and in staggering debt.

  154. Exactly, birdgal.

    BTW, there’s a national cartoon in my paper today showing a Hillary-supporting woman cutting off part of her nose (i.e. “cutting off her nose to spite her face” in choosing to vote McCain). They just don’t get it, do they? This anger we feel is not spite!

  155. brilliant, norma-d. brilliant.

    now, how does oprah figure in to the equation? is she funding the move and fit-up of the new headquarters? queen of propaganda?

  156. No, they do not get the anger. It is not revenge, but rejection of misogyny, sexism, race-baiting, condescension, arrogance, narcissism, hypocrisy, vagueness of a platform, and the horrible behavior and abuse by his supporters. In addition, BO would be very bad for this country. Look at the divisiveness created already, and it is not even the full-blown GE. McCain may not be ideal, and I may not agree with all his positions, but he is not race-baiting, and will be safer for this country than BO. The democratic party has left me, and millions of others. It does not offer anything, that I want or need. I changed my voter registration to Independent. I will not be blackmailed by SCOJS or Roe vs Wade. I never thought I would say this, but at this point in time, with BO as the nominee, and the influence of Hillary marginalized, this country is in deep trouble. The democratic party is corrupt, and is controlled by the Chicago Daley machine. Now, it is at a national level.

  157. ***1950****

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  158. Norma: I read, that DB is next in line for the Chairmanship. I am definitely out of the democratic party. Nothing is going to be reformed or changed, with DB in charge. They said, they don’t need us, so good-bye.

  159. I can say this over and over and over until I’m blue in the face, and STILL Obamatons will not get it: I am NOT voting for McCain in order to satisfy some bizarre sense of revenge! I am voting for McCain because I think Obama is DANGEROUS!!! Period.

  160. idunn…my thoughts, exactly. the bots use the “revenge” mantra because they are afraid of the truth.

  161. Amazing, years ago, my conservative father said, that the democrats would be the ruin of this country. At the time (70’s), I thought, it was his conservatism talking, but after this primary, his words are coming true.

  162. Henry,

    If you have money to donate, Hillary needs it to pay some campaign debts so she will be in a stronger position in August — and to show that her supporters are still with her.

    See Heidi Li’s Potpourri blog.

  163. oh well, times a wastin’. gotta get down to city hall and change that party affiliation.

    later-gators.

  164. Hi, everyone: I am appalled at this coup d’etat. Believe me, the country DOES NOT want Chicago/Illinois politics on a national level.

    And, djia, I think I found where Obama got his logo – a little closer to home.
    http://www.lakeshoreptv.com/

  165. Hi, all:
    This coup d’etat is more than I can take – the Kennedy/Daley merger as predicted. The country does not need Chicago running the country. Ugh.

    djia, here’s where Obama got his logo, I think – a little closer to home.

    http://www.lakeshoreptv.com/

  166. This is what idiocy sounds like:

    So I’m listening to Rush (not an idiot), and he’s saying that Mish and Bambi are upset because Fox ran some graphic saying something like “Michelle is Obama’s baby momma,” right?

    Anyways, Disney Deer and Whitey are all upset, supposedly. This from the crew that apparently (I still have to see the tape) gave us Mr. Illegitimate smacking his baby momma’s ass on national TV or whatever.

    So Rush reads a transcript one of his employees sent him of Mish saying — when intro’ing Bambs at some talk in 2004 — something to the effect of “here he is…my baby daddy!”

    I guess that’s like Olbermann getting upset with Hillary for mentioning RFK while at the same time discussing male superdelegates taking HRC into a room and only he comes out, huh?

    Idiocy, thy name is Obama. I guess the ‘baby mommy/daddy’ is in the mouth of the beholder, huh?

    Ha ha ha.

    Obama is like Kobe Bryant: Insane hype but as his core a fraud and choker.

    Bryant’s team blew a 24-point — TWENTY FOUR — home lead last night to essentially lose the NBA playoffs (one more game and they’re done). Bryant shot around 30% (a god-awful figure; a good number is around 50%) and acted like Obama did when he faced Gibson’s and Steph’s questions. That is, like a baby with a soiled diaper who needs his mommy (or baby’s momma).

    Kobe choked the lead. We’ll help make sure Bambi chokes his lead (at least the lead the MSM is trying to give him) in just the same fashion.

  167. The worst types of articles that bother me are the ones that state: thanks for opening the doors for other women. I find them condescending.
    —————————————————————-

    The only thing this campaign shows is that if you work to get qualified and prove you’re qualified and win the popular vote — the Old Boyz still get together and change the rules to take it away from you!

    The only thing worse would be if Hillary takes the VP — and spends the last 8 years of her active life propping up and protecting the man who abused her!

    Please sign and circulate these petitons:

    h t t p : / / pumaparty.com/nohillaryvp/lets-ask-hillary-not-to-accept-vp/

  168. PLEASE let GodBrazila get the DNC chairman’s spot.

    That way, when Bambi loses she can go down with him. Hey, it’s only fair. After the superdelegates outvoted (or are set to outvote) the primary electorate to nominate Mr Illegitimate, Donna said she would leave the party.

    By God, let’s help her out. Make her the chair before you lose the election, Bambs. Please. That would be an excellent way to send D-Bra off to her “new Dem Party” ASAP.

  169. Bryant’s team blew a 24-point — TWENTY FOUR — home lead last night to essentially lose the NBA playoffs (one more game and they’re done). Bryant shot around 30% (a god-awful figure; a good number is around 50%) and acted like Obama did when he faced Gibson’s and Steph’s questions. That is, like a baby with a soiled diaper who needs his mommy (or baby’s momma).

    Kobe choked the lead. We’ll help make sure Bambi chokes his lead (at least the lead the MSM is trying to give him) in just the same fashion.
    *****************************************************
    Okay Universal…what did I tell you about betting on games…play the horses they’re more dependable. As a Laker fan I have to correct you…Kobe is not the whole team and it takes everyone to win in the Championship game…the Lakers are still 2 players away from that goal of winning a Championship.

    To many players on TEAM LAKERS don’t pull their weight in pressure situation times and their offensive rebounding…let say their rebounding is spotty at best in these situations.

    I was afraid they would play protect to lead instead of playing all out and when I saw that 17 pt lead at half time that was the first thing in my head…young team with only 2 players with any experience at this level….I hope they MAN-UP and continue to fight for each and every game.

  170. Obama’s image problem persists

    This underscores why Team Obama launched their truth-squadding website yesterday as well as the urgency with which they need to define their candidate before November:

    Fred Hobbs, a [Tennessee] Democratic Party Executive Committee member representing part of [Rep. Lincoln]Davis’ district, said he understands why Davis is not endorsing Obama and is “skeptical” of the Illinois senator himself.

    “Maybe [it’s] the same reason I don’t want to — I don’t exactly approve of a lot of the things he stands for and I’m not sure we know enough about him,” Hobbs said when asked why he thought Davis wasn’t endorsing Obama. “He’s got some bad connections, and he may be terrorist connected for all I can tell. It sounds kind of like he may be.”

    Davis was not made available for comment.

    His chief of staff, Beecher Frasier, said he doesn’t know for sure if Obama is “terrorist connected” but he assumes he’s not.

    This is not just a low-information voter — Hobbs was a Democratic super delegate.

    As Ben and I wrote last month, the perception of Obama as somehow un-American above all is the central challenge he faces.

  171. Republicans seem to be using Democratic primaries as a template for how they will battle BO.

    Interesting that they are using “street organizer” or “baby daddy/mama” in order to provoke the inevitable white guilt response from the media “that must be racist!!!,” and then reflecting it as words that the Obamas themselves have used.

    I wish the Clinton campaign had been more effective to battle this – but no one can fault them for being taken off guard because BO planned to smear them as racists. Now, the Republicans are benefiting from a 2.0 plan.

  172. We need to write Arlen Spector to hold hearings on what exactly is happening in the undemocratic party. This is downright disgusting and scary what the DNC and the BO campaign are doing to the party loyals.

  173. meiyingsu Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Obama’s image problem persists

    This underscores why Team Obama launched their truth-squadding website yesterday as well as the urgency with which they need to define their candidate before November:

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    yeah, more like their Propaganda-squad.

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  175. CountTheVotes Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    Republicans seem to be using Democratic primaries as a template for how they will battle BO.

    Interesting that they are using “street organizer” or “baby daddy/mama” in order to provoke the inevitable white guilt response from the media “that must be racist!!!,” and then reflecting it as words that the Obamas themselves have used.

    I wish the Clinton campaign had been more effective to battle this – but no one can fault them for being taken off guard because BO planned to smear them as racists. Now, the Republicans are benefiting from a 2.0 plan.
    *****************************************************
    Words matter and it goes both ways.

  176. THE DEMOCRAT PARTY has changed its name to ———-

    1.CHICAGO THUGS PARTY -OR

    2.OBAMACRAT PARTY -OR

    3.HYPOCRITE SEXIST PARTY

  177. JUST FOR LAUGH —

    Hey Pedro!

    Si!

    We just hit another bump.

    Si!

    (bus continues down the road)

    Hey, Pedro!

    Si!

    We just hit another Obama campaign associate!

    How come you know he was from Obama?

    Cause when we run him over he said, “I hope this isn’t the kind of change we’re all in for!”

  178. What I posted in TM:

    “Taylor had so many good points on this article and I’m happy that she discussed them with intelligence and a gift of clarity. I now see where our point of departure lies. Whereas most of you view these issues as a misunderstanding that can be talked over, I see it as a grave indication that the Democratic Party is near a tipping point where feminist and gay rights advocacies will be diminished and race-baiting will become a staple in the Primaries.

    Donna Brazile’s de-emphasis of traditional Democratic pillars says it all. The unapologetic race-baiting during the primary says it all. The unacknowledged misogyny during the primary says it all. The unapologetic guesting of a gay-bashing minister in Obama’s political rally says it all. The ungracious Obama victory says it all.

    “Misogyny, gay-bashing and race-baiting works” That’s the message that we are sending out to future Democrats if Obama wins the elections. After all, gays, women and liberals will always be in the tank for the Democrats. They need only be marginally better than the Republicans and tradition will hold a lot of them to the Democratic Party. It’s not “cool” to champion feminism and gay rights – says the young, urban voters. These issues are so much “downers”. Hope, Change, and heavy rhetoric is the key – not the issues.

    I fear for what the Democratic Party will become if Obama wins. It would be a party only marginally better than the Republicans and it will be infinitely bad for feminist ideals and gay rights. They’ve already indicated their future stance on these things by their actions. Gays and women should be willing to sacrifice this election so that the Democratic Party will remain a champion for these issues. Fail now and the consequences for the future will be dire.

    If you think McCain is a danger to “Roe v Wade”, then this is a much insidious and ultimately more devastating danger. “Roe v Wade” will not fall with a bold attack on Supreme Court Appointments. It will take decades to undo the entangled legal precedence that stems from “Roe v Wade” even if a determined group of SC justices were to force a turnaround of this landmark decision. What will ultimately doom “Roe v Wade” is a Democratic Pary that is lukewarm to feminist issues. An Obama win this November would be a step in that very dangerous direction.”

  179. BO and the DNC are all about disenfranchising – disenfranchising and silencing anyone who will not vote for him. We saw it at the caucuses, in regard to FL and MI, and now at the Convention:

    You all do realize that if they succeed in taking away the roll call and voices of Hillary’s delegates, they’ve taken away the 18 million voices of people who voted for Hillary – now represented by her delegates.

    If BO and the DNC were planning to do this, why didn’t the DNC just tell us in the beginning – don’t bother to vote. We’ve got it fixed anyway.

  180. “Misogyny, gay-bashing and race-baiting works” That’s the message that we are sending out to future Democrats if Obama wins the elections. After all, gays, women and liberals will always be in the tank for the Democrats. They need only be marginally better than the Republicans and tradition will hold a lot of them to the Democratic Party. It’s not “cool” to champion feminism and gay rights – says the young, urban voters. These issues are so much “downers”. Hope, Change, and heavy rhetoric is the key – not the issues.

    I fear for what the Democratic Party will become if Obama wins. It would be a party only marginally better than the Republicans and it will be infinitely bad for feminist ideals and gay rights. They’ve already indicated their future stance on these things by their actions. Gays and women should be willing to sacrifice this election so that the Democratic Party will remain a champion for these issues. Fail now and the consequences for the future will be dire.

    If you think McCain is a danger to “Roe v Wade”, then this is a much insidious and ultimately more devastating danger. “Roe v Wade” will not fall with a bold attack on Supreme Court Appointments. It will take decades to undo the entangled legal precedence that stems from “Roe v Wade” even if a determined group of SC justices were to force a turnaround of this landmark decision. What will ultimately doom “Roe v Wade” is a Democratic Pary that is lukewarm to feminist issues. An Obama win this November would be a step in that very dangerous direction.”

    What a great post! I suggest posting it around at other places. pumaparty.com has very good software and is set up for ‘diaries’ and anyone can start a little blog there. Also clintondems.com would be a good place.

    I think you’re right about the cool/macho ‘bros before hos’ thing being a greater danger to women than the GOP.

    I’m not sure the GOP is against women per se. They are against abortion and other issues important to women but at the upper levels I don’t think it’s coming from misogyny per se. When they find a woman who agrees with them, they promote her (Condi Rice, this Alaska governor, Sandra O’Conner).

    So with the GOP, we can focus on the actual issues. McCain and Hillary have worked together and and friends and McCain actually respects Hillary (opposite of Obama). With McCain as Pres and HIllary in the Senate, we could REALLY get some bi-partisan progress!

  181. Anduril919 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Another good place to post, is The Confluence. Their current thread deals with sexism and misogyny. Very timely place to post this.

  182. RAnting on, what I mean about issues is that the GOP has different reasons for opposing different womens’ issues. Aside from wingnuts’ kircher and kinder, and some people of all levels with thoughtful objections to abortion — I think most womens’ issues are opposed on financial grounds, which can be negotiated.

    For example maternity leave is opposed because it costs the company money.

  183. Anduril919 Says:

    June 13th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    What I posted in TM

    Your post is there. I wonder, if the hacking had something to do, with the post being deleted?

  184. You may have heard this already but breaking news at New York Times is that Tim Russert died of a heart attack.

  185. Keep the nasty comments about Rusty Jowls to a minimum. Folks are watching and will jump on us for it.

  186. BTW- I have contact info if you want in on the Clinton Supporters for McCain teleconference tomorrow. Space is limited.

    Email me if you want the info. I also sent it to Admin.

  187. re: Russert’s death. Wow. I am sorry for his family.

    But I have to wonder – are the Obamabots going to use this as a new type of censorship campaign – NO ONE now can talk about the pattern of misogyny and sexism and bias coming from NBC because it’s just un-PC.

  188. “But I have to wonder – are the Obamabots going to use this as a new type of censorship campaign – NO ONE now can talk about the pattern of misogyny and sexism and bias coming from NBC because it’s just un-PC.”

    It wouldn’t surprise me.

  189. Oh my god —

    I am in shock —i was at a puma site –and someone mentioned about tim,s death –and i was telling them to f**k off and not to talk like that .

    i mean –its just so unreal –my prayers to his family and may god give him peace and his soul in heaven .

    I am sorry for his family ,friends,relatives, and msnbc .

  190. Andural919-

    exactly. after this, everything will be a tribute to Tim Russert and his “wonderful leadership” at NBC and in the media.

    I remember when “PC” became part of cultural slang in the 90s, and now with the Obamabots behind it, it will be wielded as a censorship campaign.

  191. Gee, I’m shocked! Waffles is turning down McCain’s offer to do 10 town halls. He only wants to do one.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080613/ap_on_el_pr/town_hall_debates

  192. I have never been a fan of Tim Russert at all but age 58 is way too young to die. My condolances to his family. Newscasters on other networks are giving heartfelt stories of their respect and affection for him..my prayers are with his family.

  193. potato head DEAD. I’m sorry I can’t be politically correct here. He screwed Hillary in the ass every chance he got and I’ can’t feel sorry for him. His kids I can. I won’t miss him at all.

  194. Well Waffles wont have Russert to feed him easy questions any more.

    RIP Tim Russert and may your family find peace.

  195. okie .. you call him Rusty Jowls and then tell everyone else to cool it! pot. kettle. black.

    I’m not into stifling. He dissed Hillary on a daily basic and it made me despise him.

    Karma is coming after them all I hope.

    He could have used his format to push women’s issues with this historic campaign .. what did he do .. tried to destroy Hillary

  196. re: Tim Russert – yes, he was a groundbreaker in the media with MTP, but sadly, the way he treated Hillary and the Clintons will leave many people unimpressed with him and his legacy.

    I hope his family finds peace too.

  197. Dot, I noticed it afterwards, but I can’t really call him anything else. It’s stuck in my head like Tweety Matthews.

    At least it’s not as bad as “potato head.” 😆

  198. okie .. gotcha.

    I think we all feel he treated Hillary like gum on the bottom of his shoes. squish, squish

  199. You may have heard this already but breaking news at New York Times is that Tim Russert died of a heart attack.

    My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

    (and that’s all I have to say about that)

  200. paula,

    One son. Just graduated from a Boston college. Grew up in Buffalo, NY. Too bad he didn’t remember his roots when it came to interviewing and reporting on his pulled-themselves-up-by-their-bootstraps peers like BC and HRC.

    His dad was a garbage collector. but instead of staying loyal to his working class background he fell head over heels in love with a pampered, spoiled, PRIVILEGED upper-class narcissist and that is what I will remember about him.

    Sorry but Karma’s a bytch.
    My condolences to his wife, his son and his father.

  201. From the NYT:
    Excerpt

    Mr. Williams said that Mr. Russert, trained as a lawyer, was “always about fairness.” The network is replaying moments of Mr. Russert and Mr. Williams co-moderating a recent debate.

  202. # Idunn Says:

    My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

    (and that’s all I have to say about that
    …………………..
    Me too Idunn

    He adored his son and he is in a boatload of pain right now

  203. If Ted Kennedy is doing well enough as reported and can come back to the Senate long enough to dry the tears shed by Robert Byrd, then the course of medical treatement for brain cancer has really improved since the days my family went through that ordeal 15 years ago. For similarly situated patients that is a good sign.

    The fact that he is doing well suggests to me that I may have some latitute, and it is not impermissable to report a comment from another blog where one reader who said today I found that I hated Teddy and another one retorted I have got you beat by 28 years.

  204. basil, I am sorry for him and his family, I would not want to answer for the lies, misogynyand the out, and out bias against Hillary and Bill C. Thank God we live for a forgiving God, as I am sure I will have to stand before HIM with my head hung down also!

  205. Mr. Williams said that Mr. Russert, trained as a lawyer, was “always about fairness.”
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    Perhaps that is true. It is customary to say such things. De mortimus nil nisi bonum. But if I were asked about him fainess is not the picture that would leap to mind. Rather it would be the attack interview, accusatory statements and trick questions. That is what we heard and saw from him over two decades. A journalist pursue that line honorably if he he is even handed about it and treats all candidated equally. Whether or not he did so in the primary, each of us will decide for himself.

  206. wbboei, why not bring Brokaw out of retirement?
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    okie: excellent suggestion. As always.

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