We Democrats Are Not Coming Home

Action Item 2: Hopefully everyone has acted on Action Item 1. The same contacts who received your emails today should get them regularly – maybe once a week. Remind them all regularly – I am not voting for Obama in NOvember.

Our second action item for today and for the next few days, is to as quickly as possible, preserve as much documentation and videos as possible. The official Hillary for President website might be shut down soon. Videos will begin to disappear. Documentation will soon begin to disappear. Everyone should try to salvage as much of that information as possible – as quickly as possible. Don’t forget to rescue the affiliated sites. The Factcheck website has already disappeared. Act quickly.

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Democratic Latinos, White Working Class voters, and women, will not come home in NOvember. Women will NOt vote for race-baiting, gay-bashing, women-hating Barack Obama in NOvember:

Barack Obama at last has won the endorsement of Hillary Rodham Clinton, the woman who came closer to the Democratic presidential nomination than any other. Now he has to win over her millions of female supporters.

Women have been sent to “the back of the bus” again, says Mary Jane Coughlin, 46, a Long Island copywriter who says she will write in Clinton’s name in November rather than vote for Obama. “We work twice as hard to get half as far.”

Four years ago, women made up more than half the electorate. Democrat John Kerry edged out President Bush among women, 51%-48%, according to surveys of voters as they left polling places.

We Democrats are not coming home in NOvember. Some Democrats will vote for another candidate. Some Democrats will write-in Hillary. Some Democrats will take a cue from Obama and vote “Present” – in other words no vote in the presidential race.

These voters “could be the margin of victory in this race,” Keenan says. “They will move once they understand the record of Barack Obama on pro-choice issues.”

Clinton consistently won the votes of women during the primaries. Women 65 and older were strongest in their support: She won them by an average of 24 percentage points in contests where voters were surveyed as they left polling places.

In her farewell remarks Saturday, Clinton urged her supporters to back Obama, but acknowledged that their desire to elect a woman will have to wait. “We have to work together for what still can be. And that is why I will work my heart out to make sure that Sen. Obama is our next president,” Clinton said.

Obama could face a challenge to win over some women who, in Clinton’s loss, feel they’ve been disrespected by the Democratic Party and are stinging over what they believe was sexism in cable news coverage of her campaign.

We Democrats Are Not Coming Home in NOvember. Flowery words will not work.

If Hillary’s not respected, none of us are respected,” says Sky Underwood, 57, a New York designer who volunteered for Clinton. [snip]

On Sunday, Feinstein summed Clinton’s hold on female voters. “Women were really invested in this candidacy,” she said on ABC. “And they believe she got treated poorly.” [snip]

Ellen Malcolm, president of EMILY’s List, which supports Democratic women who favor abortion rights, also predicts Clinton supporters will jump to Obama — in time. “The vast majority of Democratic women will go through their own process and conclude that they want Barack Obama in the White House,” she says.

Some Clinton supporters, however, still wonder when a woman will be able to break the glass ceiling that Clinton did not. Record numbers of women serve in the Senate and in governorships, but “the pipeline doesn’t have a ton of women in it,” Lake says.

It’s also not clear to some Clinton supporters when the next woman will catch fire and propel a candidacy into contention.

“If not her, who?” asked Underwood, the Clinton volunteer. “If not now, when?”

Democrats Are Not Coming Home In NOvember.

Only The Chickens Are Coming Home… To Roost.

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655 thoughts on “We Democrats Are Not Coming Home

  1. What an appropriate Title. We are not Coming home in November. We are not stupid. You don’t dictate to us.

    Thanks for this article.

  2. admin: great post, you are so right we will not come home in November! He is a fraud, liar and a very scarey person to have in the White House. Its apparent he does not like women, except for MO, he especially doesn’t like white women! You can see that over and over in his campaign.
    The MAN has not even asked us for our vote, he knows he has done us wrong!

  3. He hasn’t asked for our vote, because everyone is telling him, including women, that we will vote for him. Not this one.

    I truly don’t understand, what people see in him. His associations are scary. Does he have any decent ones??? MO as first lady, would be a nightmare.

  4. Admin> as you know we are moving forward. The Underwood quote is very good. There is also a quote by Ruth Mandel who was the Founder and Director of the Rutgers Center for American Women and Politics: “Hillary is not at the front of the line- SHE IS THE LINE”. That needs to be thrown into the face of lightweights like Campbell Brown, evil nomes like Andrea Mitchell and self loathing creatures like Maureem Dowd. Also it provides the perfect retort to those who will soon be telling our women dry your eyes dont ya fuss dont ya sweat goodie good times are coming blusette (American version of Madame Butterfly).
    Or if time is short just tell them to get fucked.

    Basil: I hope you saw my posting from the last thread. I think it was Irving Berlin who said: anything you can do I can do better. Well . . . lookie hear: The latest from Traitor Taylor Marsh. Top that!

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    Now I too can dry my eyes, never fuss never fret and never look back.

  5. I had to share the video with friends. Some of it I did not know had happened.

    This must be stopped.

  6. I am still wondering why Rezko decided to go staight to prison, instead of waiting for his sentencing! Most people would want to stay home with their children as long as possible! Clearly it makes me think he is scared! If the mob want to take you out, they can do it in prison just as easy!

  7. Our second action item for today and for the next few days, is to as quickly as possible, preserve as much documentation and videos as possible. The official Hillary for President website might be shut down soon. Videos will begin to disappear. Documentation will soon begin to disappear. Everyone should try to salvage as much of that information as possible – as quickly as possible. Don’t forget to rescue the affiliated sites. The Factcheck website has already disappeared. Act quickly.
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    How do I save the videos…or what tools do I need?

  8. Maybe Mr Rezko is waiting for his old buddy Barack to commute his sentence for time served!!

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    Your Name: wbboei

    This is not new. I have received that message for quite awhile.

  10. The Obamabots’ ruthlessness is merging with their realization that Obama can’t win in November, and now there are whispers that when Obama loses, it will have been Hillary’s fault(!!!) This gets more laughable by the day. Excerpt from Politico:

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    Will Clinton take the blame if Obama falls?
    By: Ben Adler
    June 9, 2008 07:02 AM EST

    In classic Washington finger-pointing style, the Democratic primary is only barely over but the recriminations are already being teed up.

    The main thrust of them is this: Will supporters of Sen. Barack Obama blame Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton if Obama loses in November?

    While the point might eventually prove moot, her decision to remain in the race well past the point in which Obama appeared to have an insurmountable delegate lead has nevertheless generated discussion about what responsibility, if any, she might bear in the event of an Obama loss.

    “If the Democrats don’t win the White House back this fall there will be a hard core contingent of young Obama supporters who will be extremely disappointed,” said Alexandra Acker, executive director of the Young Democrats of America. “They will be looking for someone to blame and some may look to the long primary.”

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  11. THE TALIBAN PARTY, formally the Democratic Party has now because the future home of the Communist and Marxist dominion party.

    Never thought the party of FDR would become the party of Lenin. Obama is a Marxist and the media are a bunch of elists PROPAGANDISTS.

    This country is founded on the individual and his freedom and rights and when you see a party that will condone your mind, talk and thought…then you are heading down a path I don’t want to go down on.

    I respect Sen. McCain because he STOOD up against his own party on the issue of TORTURE…that took balls and convictions. What has BAMBI ever do that would involve political capital?…..hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm my finger is tired mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I’m still looking.

  12. Just got an email from AnnLewis. I asked them to unsubcribe me from their list. I also unsubsribed from emiliy list.

    You need to get off them, or they will be given to O.

  13. That’s a very lovely e mail from Ann Lewis, and it gives a link to send a message to Hillary.

    I hope they won’t turn their list over to Obama. I can’t imagine they would do that.

  14. I unsubscribed from Emily’s list, too.

    When you go to Hillary’s site, there is a box to join with Obama, where you enter your information, and then the SUBMIT button. Anyone else, see the irony in that? I am too sensitive, I know. He is trying to get a list of her supporters. I hope, she does not give him, her mailing list.

    If you want Hillary’s site, skip to main page.

  15. Any of the automatics that I get I am going to get off as quickly as possible. Then if I get anything from the O group, and I going to ask how they got my name. As I remember, I did not give permission for my email to be given to anyone.

  16. DNC gave Obama supporters 75% of the public seats at the conference.

    Then they whine about “Party Unity.”

    Clinton has to VOTE.

    DNC ignored us and appointed Obama.

    I will not support Fascism.

  17. Thanks, admin,

    I’m not coming home to roost either. But then, I am just a “typical white person”.

    I am still conflicted….I won’t vote for BHO, for all the reasons that we know. At the same time, voting for McCain, backer of the war, Bush3, etc. makes it really difficult for me to pull his lever.

    I pray that a bombshell comes out in the next 6 to 8 weeks, before Denver. Whether it is the MO tape, a Rezko plea, or the like. I never thought that Sean Hannity would be our friend! Does anybody have an update?

    Thanks to those that offered advice on my voting conflict yesterday. I couldn’t respond due to a weather related, power failure! All ok now!

  18. Adm: that video broke my heart. How can people be so mean and evil. I know, it is politics, but some of that garbage was absolutely vile, especially the likes of Matthews, Stewart, and the rest of them.

  19. Paula,

    The Repubs may be slow to start…but Hannity is sure going strong on his radio show with his “stop obama” movement!

  20. This is my first entry on this site. I wish I came here earlier. One thing that has puzzled me is why O???? If the DNC wanted a minority, there are a group in congress that have way more experience and knowledge.

    Can it be that O is the front man for Ted K. and that Ted K. is pulling all the strings since he knows he’s not electable but he needs a puppet?

    Today, when Kennedy was being released from the hospital, his son said

    Kennedy’s son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., told the Providence Journal on Sunday that his father’s surgery “went better than anyone expected.” He said his father is looking forward to returning to the Senate and working with Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama on universal health care legislation should the Illinois senator win the White House.

    “That is what he is talking and thinking about,” Kennedy said. “It adds a great deal of poignancy to his recovery. But that’s how he sees it — he has to recover so he can get health care for the millions of people who don’t have access to the care that we do.”

    Kennedy told the newspaper that his father wants to begin writing the legislation this year so it would be ready if Obama was victorious.

  21. I got a e-mail from a friend that said Obama filled the place with bots where Hillary gave her concession speech that was not a concession.

    It also said that Dorothy and Bill took that very hard and the audience of Bot supporters loved it. They cheered everytime she said anything about Obama! Obama is a disgusting piece of crap an so are his supporters. I will never, NEVER vote for him!

  22. its true. my friend as there and was digusted. oh and mccain’s camp called me again today etc…or shall i say dems for mccain in arlington. not a word from obama.

  23. I actually can I think put this emai on a private site, I am not putting it on here totally because the bots would enjoy this too much, just as they had enjoyed putting Hillary down for 16 months. I can’t tell you the whole truth on the email. brb

  24. How do these a holes think we could possibly vote for this fraud. He tries to devalue Hillary at every turn!

  25. Writers at the Washington Post and New York Times are finally beginning to acknowledge Obama’s profound and growing problems with white voters, and the racial rifts his campaign has created. Hillary supporters have been pointing out this fact for months, of course…

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    blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/06/wag_the_blog_a_second_race_spe.html?hpid=topnews

    Wag the Blog: A Second ‘Race’ Speech for Obama?

    Now that Barack Obama is the presumptive presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, it’s easy to forget the withering gauntlet he ran over the last four months of his campaign.

    Beginning with the revelation of controversial comments by Rev. Jeremiah Wright in mid March and spanning through Obama’s own “bitter” comments about small town residents, the return of Wright to center stage and the emergence of Rev. Michael Pfleger as an issue, Obama has been battered on all sides — largely over the issue of race and how it plays out both in his life and his campaign.

    Obama sought to address these issues in a widely praised speech in which he refused to denounce Wright, choosing instead to put the Reverend and his comments in a historical context of race relations in the country.

    While Wright, Pfleger and race never disappeared as an issue in the primary — check out the racial divide in late-voting primary states — it also did not hamstring Obama’s march to the Democratic nod.

    Case closed, right? Not so fast, according to journalist Juan Williams, who penned a piece in the Wall Street Journal on Friday entitled: “It’s Time for Another Obama Race Speech.”

    “How does Barack Obama, fresh from claiming the Democratic nomination, put Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger behind him, before they ignite yet again and blow up his general election campaign?,” asks Williams. “How does he pre-empt advertising images, sure to be circulated by his opponents, that link him to outrageous racial rhetoric and fears that he is open to the most radical left-wing ideas – including using the power of the White House to exact racial vengeance?”

    The only solution, Williams argues, is for Obama to again tackle the sensitive issue of race — this time with less soaring rhetoric and more blunt acknowledgment of the role race plays not only in his life but in all of our lives.

    What should Obama say exactly? Here’s Williams:

    “This time he has to admit to sins of using race for political expediency — by knowingly buying into divisive, mean messages being delivered from the pulpit. He has to say that, as a biracial young man with no community roots, attaching himself to Rev. Wright and the Trinity congregation was a shortcut to move up the ladder in the Chicago political scene. He has to call race-baiting what it is, whether it comes from a pulpit or calls itself progressive politics. And he has to challenge his supporters, especially his black base, to be honest about real problems at the heart of today’s racial divide – including out-of-wedlock births, crime, drugs and a culture that devalues education while glorifying the gangster life.”

    Only by doing so can Obama fulfill his promise as a post-partisan candidate, according to Williams. “Only then can he convince dubious white voters that he is ready to move beyond racial antagonism and be their president.”

  26. birdgal, that’s what I have asked myself one million times. People are so mean, what has happened to people, they have lost all respect for each other!

  27. from womencountpac:
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    Hi well i have a great lady who will work with us. She is a writer and
    has had her own show and did columns as well.She loves the Clintons.
    This is a letter she wrote

    An Open Letter to President Bill Clinton
    People say you have a temper, but from where I stand you have been
    incredibly patient. You have said little compared to the indignities
    you, as a former President, a citizen, a husband and a father have
    suffered over the course of this momentous campaign.
    You have watched your legacy tarnished. You watched an America you
    left at peace, be at war. You have watched an America you left with a
    budget surplus, become the greatest debtor in history. You have
    watched an economy that was strong, plunge into a recession. You have
    had the blame for all these ills and others placed at your feet. But
    you stayed silent.
    You have watched your political allies, desert you. Bill Richardson,
    your Secretary of Energy, the current Governor of New Mexico, came out
    in support of Obama. When questioned how he could defy his own edit,
    that superdelegates should vote with their constituency Richardson
    responded, “She only won by a small margin.” Janet Napolitano, the
    Governor of Arizona, whose career you propelled forward by helping her
    become Attorney General of Arizona, is another Obama supporter.
    David Wilhelm, your campaign chair in 1992, and who became head of the
    DNC with your support also showed no loyality. There are the
    countless others, who you have advised, campaigned for, promoted, and
    raised money for, who have turned their back on you. But you stayed
    silent.
    You have been deserted by the African Community you stood loyally
    beside. You were called the first black president by Toni Morrison,
    and have arguably done more for the African American community than
    any President since Abraham Lincoln. You’ve been publically labeled a
    racist even though your most staunch critics say there is not a more
    racially blind person in America. And you have watched the African
    American community, vote as a bloc for Obama even though you and your
    wife have spent your entire lives fighting for racial justice. But
    you stayed silent.
    You have watched your wife called a bitch, Hitlery, Billary, and
    treated as the devil incarnate. You watched people wear t-shirts
    that read, “Iron My Shirt” or “Bro’s before Ho’s.” You’ve watched
    pundits and self-proscribed journalists, spin data to intentionally
    undermine your wife’s campaign. You have watched your wife vilified,
    mocked, dissected and eviscerated on national television. And
    although you are not without your sins, no man wants to stand silently
    by as others abuse his wife and the mother of his children. But until
    now, you’ve stayed silent.
    You have been accused of pimping out your daughter, because you
    allowed her to campaign on her mother’s behalf, a mother she is
    justifiably proud of. In addition, you have watched your daughter,
    your only progeny, asked questions about your indiscretions, questions
    no young woman should be asked about her father, under any
    circumstance let alone on national television. And you’ve heard
    pundits say, since she’s a surrogate, she’s fair game.
    I, for one, would have told them all to go to hell. I would have told
    them look at their own cynicism rather than my mistakes. I would have
    told them to stay away from my daughter, or step outside and go toe-to-
    toe with me. I would have told them only cowards throw stones from
    afar. Not one was man or woman enough to call your wife names to her
    face or challenge her to a debate. I would have told the white men of
    the Democratic Party, that were so quick to push her out of the race,
    to meet me out back behind the woodshed, where one cowardly pundit
    wanted to take your wife. But you have more patience than I. I lack
    the patience of a saint.
    I hope through all of this you have learned these painful lessons-
    that sexism is real and something every woman in America confronts
    daily, that loyalty is hard to find except in a dog, that power
    corrupts the incorruptible, that gratitude has no memory, and that
    envy will tempt a student to defeat his/her mentor. Also remember
    that the woman you married is brilliant, gracious and strong. She can
    take a punch and shed a tear. She is “woman” at her best. Hillary is
    the best candidate for President this nation has ever known. Her
    supporters will stand behind her in whatever journey she chooses to
    take. She has launched a new wave of feminism and given all women new
    hope for equality. And finally, whatever your shortcomings, feel
    proud that you have raised a beautiful daughter who has conducted
    herself even in the most difficult of circumstances with poise and
    grace. And she and her children, and her children’s children, will
    carry you and your wife’s legacy, into the future. What more could
    any president want? What more could any parent want?

    Lynette Long

  28. The following is from TM,

    “And for people like Taylor who keep selling us these dreams that voting bambi will strengthen Hillary. Please watch the cable shows today. Everywhere the analysis is that bambi winning will forever break the clinton’s power in the party and that Hillary will be a non entity in the political arena going forward.”

  29. anag52,

    Welcome to Hillaryis44.

    As far as Senator Kennedy goes, I think he is just trying to grab his last hurrah in the bright lights and has grabbed onto Obama to do so. He hates the Clintons so I’m sure his “behind the scene” machinations were full of hatred and subterfuge in order to bring Hillary down.

  30. meiyingsu Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
    The following is from TM,

    “And for people like Taylor who keep selling us these dreams that voting bambi will strengthen Hillary. Please watch the cable shows today. Everywhere the analysis is that bambi winning will forever break the clinton’s power in the party and that Hillary will be a non entity in the political arena going forward.”

    So, a person who garnered 18 million votes in one of the tightest races ever, is a non-entity? Way to go, to gather more support for BHO (not). I wonder, if they would say the same thing, if situation was the other way around? Voting for Bambi will not strengthen Hillary. Apparently, the pundits are dissing away 18 million voters, but I guess the new democratic party can make up for the loss. They don’t need us.

  31. Sheesh! Why is it so hard for the media and Obamatwits to understand that some of Hillary’s supporters are not voting for him simply because he is totally unqualified and somewhat corrupt?

  32. Is this normal? When I clicked on the site Admin had above: “Health Warning” at the bottom of that site was a leave a message and low and behold there was my name from another site and my email. Is that normal???

  33. JanH Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    anag52,

    Welcome to Hillaryis44.

    As far as Senator Kennedy goes, I think he is just trying to grab his last hurrah in the bright lights and has grabbed onto Obama to do so. He hates the Clintons so I’m sure his “behind the scene” machinations were full of hatred and subterfuge in order to bring Hillary down.

    And, he does not want Hillary to get any credit or glory. What a selfish oaf. He is even picking the VP, by having Caroline due his bidding. She is his proxy.

  34. JanH wrote:

    Sheesh! Why is it so hard for the media and Obamatwits to understand that some of Hillary’s supporters are not voting for him simply because he is totally unqualified and somewhat corrupt?
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    I know! I will give Obama credit for 2 things: figuring out how to raise buckets of money, and being a great public speaker. Both are desirable traits if you want to be successful politician, but other than that, they don’t qualify anyone to be President.

  35. Hmm… I thought, Kerry said, UHC was off the table for the first year of a new administration?

  36. Berkeley Vox,

    I’ll only agree with one of your credits…
    lol…

    He’s only a good speaker with a monitor in front of him. Otherwise he sinks like quicksand!

  37. Its an interesting dilemma, i was thinking of earlier

    1 : Obama picks Clinton as VP and loses masses of votes still from people who will never vote for him and still loses

    or

    2 : doesnt pick Clinton as VP and ends up losing them as all Clintonites and many others become totally pissed off at the nerve.

    In reality, he’s fucked either way. I’m laughing that she’s got him by the balls either way.

  38. Except if the DNC and Obama push her into saying that she doesn’t want the V.P. and gives him an easy out. God forbid that anything should be difficult for this wannabe…

  39. It has started.Fox has announced a campaign to bring Obama uot to the public and quwstion every public statement he has made or any that he he refuses to answer.Hillary made tge right decision by suspending instead of quitting.Stay tuned and watch the Obama pedestal crumble and crush him.His black supporters,see no evil,hear no evil but are about to do a lot of evil,spurred on by the RNC.Sit back folks have a snack and watch the slauter of Barack Hussein Obama begin.Bide your time Hillary.You will be Our 44th President.

    BY ABM90 The Adrenalin is flowing inthese 90 year old veins and I am going to hang around for her inauguration.Wait and See

  40. “This time he has to admit to sins of using race for political expediency — by knowingly buying into divisive, mean messages being delivered from the pulpit. He has to say that, as a biracial young man with no community roots, attaching himself to Rev. Wright and the Trinity congregation was a shortcut to move up the ladder in the Chicago political scene. He has to call race-baiting what it is, whether it comes from a pulpit or calls itself progressive politics. And he has to challenge his supporters, especially his black base, to be honest about real problems at the heart of today’s racial divide – including out-of-wedlock births, crime, drugs and a culture that devalues education while glorifying the gangster life.”
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    Lots of luck.

  41. Obama must be tanking for the TALIBAN PARTY to have Hillary Clinton give a rally for Obama this Friday…Luv you Hillary but don’t trust the Taliban Party and hate that Howard Dean WEAK ASS elevated the Corrupted Chicago Political Machine NATIONWIDE.

    I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANY CANDIDATE THAT PROMOTES HATE!!!!

    I’m SO tired of SEEING PLAYMATE MEDIA.

  42. In reality, he’s fucked either way. I’m laughing that she’s got him by the balls either way
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    moonpluto: thank you for brightening my day.

  43. birdgal Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    moon: they will blame her, no matter what.

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    They will blame her to cover their sorry behind but it’s too late. These political work for the PEOPLE, the majority of the people and for the TALIBAN PARTY to THROW WOMEN RIGHTS AND EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE OBAMBI TRAIN is unforgivable.

    O Thank you democratic males for letting us WOMEN know how you truly feel about women.

  44. Please Obama will NOT support Universal Healthcare….please this guy word is useless. He has flip flop down to an art….it NOT the words but the action you must always watch and Obambi actions is not one that endears TRUST or HONOR.

    His word doesn’t mean anything because he has shown a PATTERN for backstabbing and NOT FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY….now he’ll fight for the Marxists and the far left. Talk about redistribution of wealth, have HATE GROUPS campaign on his website but can scrub off any desent in a blink of an eye.

    Clinton supportors only became relevent when the Dems realize that the G.E will be one vote = one vote + the electoral college.

  45. Cabynew: let me suggest that you not draft the indictment here too broadly or limit it to a single gender i.e. democratic males. There is a specific group of people-men and women who are to blame for crushing the hopes and dreams of 18 million people and you know who they are. If the anger we all feel is not focused with lazer precision against the real culprits it dissipates and we are perceived as bitter people rather than people pursuing a just cause. I am trying to be helpful not critical because I respect and admire what you have to say. Its just that I find myself at times falling into the same trap and have to catch myself or get drunk which doesnt help.

  46. I guess they are going to “poll” afterwards to see how weak Bambi is and then Hillary will have to be the “workhorse” for the fucking “showhorse”

    This hardens me even worse.

    Hillary needs a break now, a vacation. Let him soldier on as the “presumptive nominee”

    His friggin internals must be HORRIBLE.

    DON’T DO IT HILLARY. TELL THEM TO GO FLY A KITE, AND GO BACK TO PUERTO RICO FOR A LONG SUMMER VACATION

  47. From a poster on TM:

    Obama told Hillary to go to hell to day by saying Elizabeth Edwards will be helping him with health care, some can spin it all they want that was a slap in the face of Hillary who has worked for years to get this passed, its time some of you get of your soap box and call it as it is.

  48. Where are they going to be campaigning?

    Isn’t this like an abused partner going back for more abuse?

  49. yep, they are starting to hold Bambi for what he says on Fox, although they can’t seem to help themselves with Hillary, they have had her for 16 years to diss and just have to do.
    Shame on you Bret Hume, guess we’ll send you an email, your comment was distasteful.

  50. He picked Elizabeth Edwards? I have no problem with the lady, but this is so damn wrong on so many levels!

    This is not the way to get Hillary’s supporters to move over. This is just a train wreck in the making. Shame on him!!!!!!!

  51. Bambi is a totalitarian, and the aim of every totalitarian is to control the mind of everyone. His fellow travellers in Newsweek are projecting their own hopes and fears on Hillary suggesting that she will feel a sense of depression. Like the old saying that I dont get ulcers I give them Hillary does not get depressed. If that were the case it would have happened a long time ago. The point is if she is not depessed then there is no reason we should be especially since that is what Bambi wants so he and his huns can conquer us. We need to trust admin and take our marching orders from him/her. Admin has more information than we do and we should follow that lead. This is important-believe me.

  52. Brit Hume is disgusting. Flipped over the TweetyBird and we were right, the Obama LurveFest is still in high gear .. they just changed who they’ll attack now …it’s McCain now rather than Hill. Still holding Bambi to a different standard trying to act like he somes kind of God who will shower in the votes in November.

    They highly underestimate the women vote especially

  53. dot48 wrote:

    His friggin internals must be HORRIBLE.
    ———————-

    I can’t remember where I read this, but it was on a credible website, within the last 3 or 4 days, and the article said that certain high-level Obama operatives are deeply worried about their internal polling data, which shows him basically in free-fall among swing voters over the last 2 months.

    All the king’s horses, and all the king’s men, couldn’t put Bambi together again….

  54. OMG, Elizabeth is going to help him with healthcare, how slimey is that Bas*&^%! They are going to try and find some female we admire and have her help him with us instead of asking Hillary.
    Bambi you can have Mother Theresa help you, you still will not get my vote. You blew it! You blow it a little further each day.

    When you are through with GE, you will not even be able to keep your senate seat! These 18 million are going to see to it!!

    Buddy you crossed that line long ago, no one is going to vote for you and we are all going to enjoy watching you go down!

  55. wbboei, you are right…let mey rephrase.

    O Thank you most democratic males for letting us WOMEN know how you truly feel about women. You and your playmates have thrown women rights under the bus.

    Regarding Elizabeth Edward…she and her husband are another one who would sell this country down the river to Anti-Americans. Just pitiful and very telling why the democrats lose time and time again BECAUSE Women love to be victims.

  56. I don’t know Hillary is able to control her anger at what has happended in this primary. I’d fuking be cussing, throwing fits and screaming. She can’t hold this stuff in either. She has to have an outlet .. I think her campaigning was her outlet earlier but she’ll need something in the coming days.

    I think she needs to spend in the summer in Puerto Rico .. help them with their Statehood issues. Maybe even buy a house there. They love her and she needs a break from all of this.

    Bambi is the nominee so they say, the convention is months away .. he needs to stand on his own. If they expect him to be POTUS they need to turn loose the training wheels .. the thing is .. the DNC knows they CANT. He is totally a loon and given a chance he’ll totally bomb.

    Hillary SHOULD NOT be there to pick his ass up. NEVER.

    I hate him.

  57. I think its dreadful asking a woman who’s not well and very sick to take this on, will probably kill her off quicker, she needs to go be with her family, not this.

  58. moononpluto Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
    I think its dreadful asking a woman who’s not well and very sick to take this on, will probably kill her off quicker, she needs to go be with her family, not this.
    *****************************************************
    Puhlease, Elizabeth is loving this.

  59. as I Say .. they think they can just transfer our loyalty.

    NEVER WILL I VOTE FOR THAT FRAUD ASS PUHN

  60. moononpluto, I agree, she is not well and the extra stress could very well get that cancer going full speed ahead.

    This just merely another insult hurled at Hillary by Obama. He is so jealous of her its not even funny. His supporters are young and wet behind the ear and unable to differeniate a good candidate from a bad one. Her supporters are older, wiser and are able to tell the difference between good and bad. He is jealous.

  61. carbynew, I do remember Elizabeth had no kind words for Hillary for the last 16 months, although she did kind of redeemed herself over the last month or two!

  62. Well one thing for sure, this election has certainly brought out the good, the bad, and the evil.

  63. dot48, What did Brit Hume say?

    BTW, wbboei, I agree with you about Hillary not getting depressed. If she can survive Monica, she sure as hell can survive this.

  64. anyone else heard that Hill will accept money from WaffleHead to pay off her campaign debt? I hope not. If we could just get it to Hillary that we would all contribute as much as we could…I would help once again. I don’t want her to be beholden to him .. they’ll hold this over her .. we paid off your debt now you work your ass off for us. Totally not fair

  65. Can anyone actually say why Elizabeth Edwards should be looking at Healthcare, what exactly has she done or held office to know what she’s on about.

    I know she’s ill and that but thats not a good enough reason.

    Heres wikipaedia

    She began her career as a law clerk for a federal judge, then moved to Nashville, Tennessee in 1978 to become an associate at the law firm of Harwell Barr Martin & Sloan. In 1981, she and her husband moved their family to Raleigh where she worked for the Attorney General’s office and then at the law firm Merriman, Nicholls, and Crampton. She used her maiden name professionally until 1996,[2] when she retired from legal practice upon the death of her son and changed her name to Elizabeth Edwards. Much of her time since leaving legal practice has been devoted to the administration of the Wade Edwards Foundation.[3] She has taught legal writing as an adjunct instructor at the law school of the University of North Carolina and worked as a substitute teacher in the Wake County Public Schools.

    and that justifys her what in reforming healthcare thats Hillary’s forte. The arrogance is astounding.

  66. Thank you for all your postings. They help to ground me, amongst all this chaos. Having other people, that have similar experiences and feelings, is very helpful.

  67. confloyd, you said in this thread that the audience for Hillary;s speech Saturday was full of bots. Where was your friend sitting? Do you know?

    I was there and the part of the building I was in was all Hillary.

  68. Paula Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
    Waffles still needs Hillary on health care. She’s in the Senate, and EE is not

    Kennedy is working on it, so he can get it through the Senate. If he is gone, then maybe, his wife takes over. EE is on some government committee for healthcare. The team will be huge, to work on this project.

  69. Brokaw basically said, “shame on you, ” to the journalists for attacking Hillary

  70. dot48 Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    Hillary is going to campaign as early as Friday? FUCK THAT HILLARY. NO, NO, NO.
    ———————————————
    Hi dot–let me suggest a slightly different take on this. This is about power and relevance. MSM wants to sweep our girl off the stage and as someone said above reduce her to a non-entity as someone said above. As long as she is out there in front of the same audiences and reconnecting with them and supporting the party candidate. This really isnt that hard to do because I have done the same thing myself when circumstances required. This is not at all the time to be taking a trip to Tahiti. If she does that she abandons the playing field to her enemies, Judas womanizer Ricardson uses racist appeals to pick apart her constituencies and mainstream media writes another false obituary. We gotta trust her. She knows what she is doing, and mainstream media is clueless as usual.

  71. party unity my ass. the party and obamb can kiss my fcuking ass. I don’t care if Hillary tells me one million times to vote for that thug, I will never do it.

  72. from TM, a supportive BO supporter:

    “You all are the biggest bunch of victims I’ve ever seen. Shut up, leave the Democratic Pary, and move on. We do not need you!!!!! Go away. I don’t see Hillary out there playing the victim everyday. She’s suppose to be your hero, take a cue from here for Christ sake. ”

    Okay, I changed my registration to Independent, and I won’t vote for your candidate. Thank you, for reaffirming my decision.

  73. congress POSTPONED talked on how to help end high energy prices .. why does that not surprise me

  74. Just logged on after endless ongoing cottage renovation.

    PLEEEEEZE don’t tell me HRC is going to do a rally for Talibama? WTF did they TREATEN her with?????

    McCain is looking better and better every day. I am so disappointed in her. 😥

  75. I just wish Mr. Brokaw discussed this earlier on but he probably was clever not to so to not to get attacked for being favored toward one or the other.

  76. Have you sent your thank you letter to Hillary at her Senate office. There is a campaign to send her a thank you [mine was home made] with 1 in 18 MILLION + on the front, and GO TO CONVENTION!! inside – be sure to place a dollar bill in side [taped mine so it would not fall out when the envelope was opened]; and write on the dollar bill
    1 in 18 MILLION. The idea was that if we 18 million each sent a dollar that would go a long way in paying off her campaign debt so she would not owe Obama a thing.Please do this. Some people are sending in one for each family member as individual thank you cards.

  77. Also, I suggested that we all write 1 in 18 million [plus your state intitials] on all paper money from now til November; and just see how far it travels and how often we get one ourselves. Little but loud statement.
    And, does anyone else have a problem with all the new eye candy pundits that are now on tv????? Part of our job, before our work is through is to teach these young girls to demand more, they seem to eat up the feeling of power, little do they know what those men are actually doing to them to objectify them – sexism, sexism, sexism.

  78. In some ways it helps gain sympathy for Hillary by making people aware of the sexism in the media/campaign

  79. Please always remember……..no matter what they say………..
    Hillary HAS to do these things because she is still an elected Senator on a Democratic ticket……..
    SHE HAS TO PROMOTE OBAMA, but we do not have to attend.
    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if only Obama supporters and paid attendees were all that attended? Bet he wouldn’t have more than one in a row them. All us Hillary Speaks for Me people have to do is stay home………….or at least far far far away. We would be doing Hillary a disservice we any of us attended any of the joint promotions, be it with Hill, Bill, or Chel.
    Thank about it.

  80. birdgal, I was being snarky.

    I have no use for these people who are suddenly discovering misogyny in the campaign. They knew all along, but wanted Hillary OUT first.

    They get no respect from me.

  81. ROFL!!!! Get this:

    (Opinions are my own)

    Have you heard? It’s a new day in the Democratic Party. Here’s some people power for you:

    the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard — we will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists,” said Obama.

    “We are going to change how Washington works. They will not run our party. They will not run our White House. They will not drown out the views of the American people.”

    Less than 24 hours later, the NYT cheekily disabuses us of this fairy tale with a report on fundraising for the convention:

    Brochures being sent to potential corporate donors by the Denver host committee say that “as a sponsor” of the convention, corporate executives will have access to as many as 232 members of Congress, 51 senators and 28 governors in what is being marketed as a “once in a lifetime” opportunity. In addition, the more a company gives — with donations of as much as $1 million being sought — the more “V.I.P. access and other benefits” are offered, according to the brochures.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

  82. plural Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
    birdgal, I was being snarky

    Yeah, so was I. 🙂 Too little, too late.

  83. ShortTermer,

    I agree. Hillary has worked her heart out and she has my support and respect always. If she is rallying for Obama, there are reasons.

  84. shorttermer,

    I understand those who insist HRC HAS to campaign for him are referring to the political aspect but i can’t condone it. Not after what he, the media, the DNC, the Obamthugs have done to her. I think she should just walk away. Seriously, WTH does she have left to lose? Why shouldn’t she enjoy some ‘down’ time? They’re going to villify her no matter what she does. They are just using her and, IMHO, now she’s allowing it to happen unless, like i posted upthread, whatever DeMafia threatened her with is so horrible . . . i just can’t imagine what could be worse than having been trashed, slandered, dismissed, insulted, villified and then sharing the stage with the very [eopel who did that to you.
    If you can explain more I’d appreciate it. i’m finding it tough to come to terms with this. 🙁

  85. dot48 Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    Hillary is going to campaign as early as Friday? FUCK THAT HILLARY. NO, NO, NO.
    ———————————————
    Hi dot–let me suggest a slightly different take on this. This is about power and relevance. MSM wants to sweep our girl off the stage and as someone said above reduce her to a non-entity as someone said above. As long as she is out there in front of the same audiences and reconnecting with them and supporting the party she maintains her power and relevance. This really isnt that hard to do because I have done the same thing myself when circumstances required. This wrong time to be taking a trip to Tahiti. If she does that she abandons the playing field to her enemies, Judas womanizer Ricardson uses racist appeals to pick apart her constituencies and mainstream media writes another false obituary. In that case she would become irrelevant. We gotta trust her. She knows what she is doing, and mainstream media is clueless as usual.

    I will give you an example. From time to time on this blog I mentioned a close friend who was a congressman from a western state. She had great stature in the state and was a controversial national figure loved by the right and despised by the left. She was an eloquent spokesman for the views and values of small town America which do not always traslate well on the national stage.

    In any event, she term limited herself against my advice and the advice of others, and unlike her peers and to her credit she honored that commitment. After that she left the public spotlight. Then a year later a sitting federal judge in her state retired, a sitting senator expressed an interest in that position, a sitting governor expressed an interest in the senate job and the governor job was potentially open.

    The state had never had a female governor before even though it was one of the first to give women the right to vote and from territorial days it was customary for women as well as men to carry a sidearm–and I have always believed there was a cause and effect correlation.

    So a few of us-a retired general, political operatives and me sprung into action. We hired a pollster to test the water and see if this well known and much loved political leader who had been out of office for only a year would be a viable candiate for governor if the position became available. To our shock and surprise her name recognition had plummeted to 25% even though she had won 3 terms in congress by margins of 55% or better. As Tip O’Neil once said a week is a long time in the world of politics.

  86. JanH, Shorttermer, I think you two are right, Hillary is too smart, she is trying to come out of this as the bigger person and let everyone else including Obama look like the losers.

  87. I agree. Hillary knows politics and knows what she has to do in order to keep fighting for the people and causes she cares about. As she said in her speech Saturday, she’s been doing this her whole life and will keep doing it.

  88. plural, just go over to the private website and look at the email I got. The email was to a friend of mine, so I am not sure who was sending it. go to luv those cowboys, I posted it there!

  89. confloyd, I’m not signed up there, so I will take your word for it.

    I did notice that Bill seemed concerned about something when they first came in. I wonder if that is what you referred to.

    But the cheers that Hillary got practically shook the building, and when Bill first showed up, people were screaming and cheering.

    There was no shortage of Clinton people there, believe me.

  90. plural, that worries me now because I have been blogging with this person for a long time, I wouldn’t have thought she would send me bogus information. The email said Dorothy and Bill were in tears, so maybe its a obama drama?? Well everyone shows their colors eventually during this primary season.

  91. wbboei,
    Thanks for the explanation but TTTT, I just don’t see how she regains her power. DEM-afia is determined to marginalize, trivialize her. I guess you can tell by my response I’m no politico. 😳 I’m worried that her caving in to THEM will tarnish her legacy even more than walking away after a spirited though unsuccessful battle (because of the deliberate premeditated election rigging by DNC.) I’m worried that in playing by their NEW Tali-bama ROOOLZ she reinforces the idea of women as second-class citizens and steps back into the same old sterotypical roles. “You see,” they’ll say. “She didn’t really want it all that bad. As soon as a MAN let her know who’s boss she folded like a cheap suit.” It smacks depressingly of Doberman’s snarky smug ‘take her into the back room.” It robs us of our pride in her accomplishment, of her heroism, of her leadership. It’s almost like she didn’t really mean what she’s been saying the past 16 months. I KNOW that’s not how it is but I’;m adiehard HRC fan. Still, I want her to either go Indy or go back to the senate and resign from the help-waffles-express.

    On another note, since the DNC and the DEM-afia had the election rigged and decided upon before the first primary why’d they bother to go through the motions in the first place? 👿 In retrospect, i wouldn’t be surprised to hear Pumpkinhead, Tingle-thighs and Axelgrease had collaborated on and agreed to the script even before the first debate.

    And one other thing: I read the Mark Penn piece in Sunday’s NYT commenting on why HRC didn’t reach the intended outcome and not once did I see him admit that his oversight of a post ST caucus strategy was a major reason. That jerk. 😈

  92. I didn’t see Dorothy, and she wasn’t introduced. Just Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea.

    I was behind the dignitaries area, so mostly saw the backs of heads during her speech. Didn’t see any tears.

    Also, the campaign workers were in the area just in front of Hillary, so there wouldn’t have been bots there.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to think they tried to pack the crowd. I did see some in the line and over heard one saying he got an e mail about it the night before. Maybe they tried to group together someplace that Bill could see.

  93. I’m sure Hillary knows what she’s doing. As another poster said before, she needs to stay relevant. Also, making these appearances was probably part of the deal so that the DNC would help pay off her campaign debt. So she isn’t really doing all this for Bambi, even though she’ll make a nice comment or two about him.

    Think of it this way. Let’s say Rezko or Whitey hits the fan between now and August and the door does indeed open up for Hillary to win the nomination. That’s wonderful, and we’ll all be happy. But it also means she has very little time and very many things to do to win in November. She’ll need $$$$. She’ll need the support of at least some of the Bots and their puppetmasters. She’ll need to win back the AA voters. And so on and so forth. The way I see it, if she works on all these things now, then she’ll be on more solid footing in the fall.

    As long as I’ve brought up Whitey, I have a theory about it that I posted on hillaryclintonforum.net which I will repeat here. My theory is that the tape, if it exists, was never offered for sale via TUCC or anywhere else. We would have already seen it if that were the case. Some Hillary supporter would have tracked it down and posted it on YouTube. I think the tape was made by some mole from the Department of Homeland Security who’d been assigned to document TUCC’s anti-American elements. That’s why only a handful of Republicans have access to it and why they are reluctant to release it. That’s my theory, anyhow.

  94. jen, that does seem plausible, it may have undercover. Absolutely the government should be watching that church! There is loads of anti american hate being preached there on a daily basis. I wonder what would have happened if this were being said in muslim church! the feds would be all over it. I really don’t think that church is a christian church because there are many ex-muslims going there!

  95. Jen the Michigander:

    Re: Tape acquisition: Agreed

    HRC relevance: Agreed

    National Press Conference: June 18, 2008 – Larry Sinclair – Scheduled

  96. check out H&C for a SOBAMA moment on the senate floor with leiberman. coming up after break.

  97. OK, one more time. What did Brit Hume say??

    Also, the MSM keeps asking what Bill is going to do next. What a dumb question. He’s going to go back to working on his foundation, which is what he occupied himself with BEFORE Hillary ran.

    BTW, where did you guys see that Hillary and Waffles were campaigning together on Friday? Just curious …

  98. It doesn’t matter if the “whitey” tape exists or not. The innuendo and what may be on it causes the waffleites to go cross-eyed! They don’t want to prove it and they don’t want to bring attention to it, to disapprove it.

    Need to start another innuendo – like – He’s passive-aggressive and his family is scared of him, he has temper tantrums like he had with Lieberman last week.

  99. party unity my ass. the party and obamb can kiss my fcuking ass. I don’t care if Hillary tells me one million times to vote for that thug, I will never do it.
    ——————————————————————
    dot: I agree 100%. Neither will I. And I will do more. I will work to defeat him. If you want to talk off line let me know. I will send my contact to Admin. if you want.

  100. JanH Says:
    June 9th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
    Except if the DNC and Obama push her into saying that she doesn’t want the V.P. and gives him an easy out.

    I’m just scared she might end up as VP, propping him up in 2008 and then ironing his shirts for eight years, with never a chance to run again herself!

    NO!!!!! h t t p : / / http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp/

  101. Paula, at the end of the brit Humme broadcast they showed Hillary’s house with an animation of her screaming at Bill about his girlfriends and throwing his clothes on the lawn. It was totally disgusting. These are the things we must close our minds to if we are going to hold on to the fact that we must vote a straight republican ticket. I can tell some of these people are going to go after our soft spot, and this hating republicans and what they stand for. We all will have to be strong.

  102. Jen
    i appreciate your comments. i also think that’s a good theory about the why’d he tape.
    But (going out on a limb, here)It seems like i and many other HRC supporters have been doing the old ‘this-time-surely-things-will-be-different tango.” For months we’ve beesaying IF ONLY:
    She woins Ohio and texas
    She wins PA
    She wins Indiana
    She gets the popular vote
    DEM-afia seats Florida and Michigan
    The Reverend Wright tapes take him out
    the William Ayers association does him in
    The Father PFlegmler, Louis Farrakhan crew association has legs
    Tony Rezko is indicted
    She beats him in another debate . . . . .

    SURELY people will NOTICE and treat her fairly!!!!!! Just like women in bad marriages give their significant other just one more chance . . . this time it will be better, they tell themselves.

    It ain’t gonna happen. It’s called enabling, emotional blackmail . . . I was cheering her on as the battle raged but now . . . why didn’t she play the nuclear option?

    I can’t think of one other candidate in this race who was treated the way she was. After the dropped out, Biden, Dodd, Edwards, judas, Kucinich, all shook hands with Waffles and it was pretty clear a contest had been fought and the battle had been conducted civilly.

    What was done to HRC is character assassination. Anyone outraged by what they perceived as shocking with regards to the RFK comments should have been equally appalled by the public, media and DNC condoned hit job on our best candidate.

    Sorry for the rambling rant but I’m torn right now.

  103. oh well, just wanted to drop in and say hi. got my “welcome aboard” the McCain website today. if someone had told me a year ago i’d be signing up on a republican site…………..

  104. basil 9, I am with you! You are 100% right on everything you said. I just think Hillary is playing the cards she been dealt to the best of her ability and I trust her ability to salvage as much as she can for us!! We really don’t know what is really going on, if we did we would probably be shocked!

  105. alcina,

    I can’t stomach the thought of her doing anything to help Tali-bama, eitheer. it is the ultimate humiliation; the extraction of the final confession by the grand inquisitors before the woman is bound to the stake, the straw piled around and the match lit. it is a marquid-de-sade method of silencing a ‘disobedient’ subject – a way to strip her of her allies, alientate and isolate her, make her dependent on the sadist for everything, including the air one breathes to stay alive.

    life, political, physical, spiritual, emotional, psychological, just isn’t worth that price. IMHO putting her on tour for him is a strategy to demoralize her and her supporters. “Look what will happen to you if you defy us.”

  106. 😳
    Sorry for all the typos. Wish we could see everything we write and there was a preview option.

    The ONLY good thing that has come out of this process, for me, was finding this amazing site and kicking the cable news habit.

    I’ll check back tomorrow and hope to read that this Tali-bama rally is a rumor.

  107. i hope everyone who attends HRC’s events for BO brings signs saying “McCain 08” “HRC 12”

  108. Did anybody watch Hannity tonight? I guess there was nothing good on or someone would have noticed it and put it on here!

  109. alcina, I like that idea.

    Make our presents know. The big question is would they let you in with those signs. I hear security is tight. they might have to hide them to bring them in. O, his royal highness, does not like facing controversy. The plan is to force them into submission.

  110. confloyd,

    I didn’t believe it was possible to be even more skeptical and disillusioned about the political-process than i already was but the DNC debacle and now hearing HRC is being forced to support BO like a trophy displayed to big-game hunters, a scalp brandished by warrior tribes, a head held up by the executioner after the guillotine has dropped has pushed me even further into anarchist territory. But i WILL vote Johnny-Mac.

    Nite all. I’m drifting.

  111. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if only Obama supporters and paid attendees were all that attended? Bet he wouldn’t have more than one in a row them. All us Hillary Speaks for Me people have to do is stay home………….or at least far far far away. We would be doing Hillary a disservice we any of us attended any of the joint promotions, be it with Hill, Bill, or Chel.
    =======================================

    Good idea! Whenever they have one of those, we should announce a ‘stay home day’ — or maybe schedule an event of our own — or at least protest!

    How about protest signs that say “Hillary, don’t iron his shirt! NO VP!”

  112. I just read on No Quarter that Jesse Jackson, Jr. is saying Hillary has a strong case for the VP slot! 🙁

  113. I really think how this is coming down, and the way he is using her, showing more disrespect, will have a negative effect.

    I see this as more abuse of her, and I think many other will also.

  114. If you remember, Jesse Jr., was one of the first race baiters. Yes, she may have a strong case, but it doesn’t mean, they will put her on the ticket. Another attempt at pacification??

  115. Today on CNN – online –

    Tax oil companies more, give the money to motorists. This idea is a central part of Barack Obama’s energy platform.

    Didn’t Hillary say that and got ridiculed by BO? What an ass!

  116. Jesse Jackson Jr is just saying to put Hillary as VP because he’s not getting any. His wife is a diehard Hillary fan and has refused to endorse BO. The family said.

  117. All he knows how to do, is xerox Hillary’s positions. What an empty suit. Hillary wanted the oil companies to pick up the gas tax for the summer. Isn’t this correct?

  118. anag52 Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
    Jesse Jackson Jr is just saying to put Hillary as VP because he’s not getting any. His wife is a diehard Hillary fan and has refused to endorse BO. The family said.

    Really? Wow, that household must be intense. He is a co-chairman for the national committee, if I recollect.

  119. Yes, Hillary wanted to tax the oil company profits and BO sneared at that. Now, wow, BO says that oil company profits need to be taxed above $80 a barrell. BFD.

  120. Something has happened behind the scenes today, I think! He is choosing Elizabeth Edwards for Healthcare that Hillary has worked for 16years to accomplish. How would that make Hillary feel if Bambi got it thru and got the credit for it. THat is her life’s work! That man is a weasel of the highest order.

    Now he stealing her tax oil company agenda???

    Do anyone of you think this has anything to do with her meeting him Friday night???

  121. from rush limbaugh

    “Let me just give you an illustration. This is audio from last Thursday in Bristol, Virginia, at a campaign event. I’ve constantly noted, ladies and gentlemen, you take the prompter and the written speeches away from Barak Obama and you have nothing. You have nothing like the guy with the soaring rhetoric and the inspiring and sermon-like quality. You have nothing like that, and this is why I don’t think Obama will do as many of these town hall meetings with McCain as his camp is saying. In fact, Bloomberg in New York got together with ABC and they offered the Federal Hall in New York for the first of these this coming Thursday night with ABC telecasting it. And both campaigns turned it down. Both campaigns turned it down. The McCain camp said, (doing McCain impression) “No, not one network. Every network or I don’t do it.” They didn’t want to give it to one particular network, and Obama, his comfort level is doing things on CNN and MSNBC. So anyway, you listen to this. This is last Thursday in Bristol, Virginia, and this is Obama talking about Iraq. I just want to preference this by telling you, if this were George Bush that you were listening to, this would have been commented on since it happened. You would have had people all over the country saying, “Gosh, can’t we get a guy that can talk? Can’t we get a guy who can put two thoughts together?” Listen to this. This is Obama.

    OBAMA: What they’ll say is, “Well it costs too much money,” but you know what? It would cost, about… It — it — it would cost about the same as what we would spend… It… Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us… (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We’re going to… It… It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about — hold on one second. I can’t hear myself. But I’m glad you’re fired up, though. I’m glad”

  122. JanH Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
    ShortTermer,

    I agree. Hillary has worked her heart out and she has my support and respect always. If she is rallying for Obama, there are reasons.
    *****************************************************
    Hillary Clinton is a LOYAL DEMOCRAT and I DON’T fault her for her faith in the principle of the party. BUT, Obama is NOT and that is the problem, Obama was brought up in the Corrupt Chicago Political Machine and is a Black Liberation Marxist and they have LONG TERM POLITICAL GOALS and just like any fanatic those goals trumps a political system they believe is racist and ungodly.

    You are either with them or against them….no middle grounds and all these issue groups will be slowly pushed out of any power sharing responsiblity….IT’s called CENTRALIZED POWER.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton are TOO much of a THREAT to OBAMBA and his SUPPORTERS and it ain’t TED KENNEDY he’s being used…there is an LONG TERM AGENDA with TEAM OBAMA and it’s about POWER AND KEEPING IT.

    The INDIVIDUAL be damned, there CAN’T be INDIVIDUAL THOUGHTS OR ACTIONS because it’s THREATEN THOSE in power so the “CULT of PERSONALITY” should be your first CLUE to the TREAT of our Country.

    It is NOT about Hillary Clinton any more because COUNTRY ALWAYS TRUMPS PARTY.

  123. birdgal, You certainly put that in contex. We should know that is why he is saying that, he’s trying to get out of the doghouse!! LOL!!

  124. I can’t begin to guess what happened at the meeting. All I know is that he ran to her house when she beckoned. Doesn’t sound like a winner to me.

    Elizabeth Edwards said a long time ago that she endorses Hillary’s Healthcare plan over BO’s. That it’s a much better plan. My guess is that he wants Hillary’s plan but she said NO. so Elizabeth is asked to do it with probably advice from Hillary.

    I think there’s something else out there for Hillary.

  125. And we thought “W” flubbed lines.

    Have you heard BHO talking about patient in ER with asthma attack taking up hospital bed, and needs a breathalizer? and aspirator? This “skilled orator” is unable to explain a simple trip to the ER. What he couldn’t articulate was the patient needed nebulizer breathing/respiratory treatments! What a dork.

    Can’t believe Axelrod puts him out there without going over their homework, for crying out loud. Fifty-seven states?!?

    In another serious flub, he was attempting to explain healthcare costs, and kept stuttering and stammering, saying,”It’s like if you paid….well, “It would be like paying…uh, uh, well, uh ….” then tried to act like he couldn’t hear himself think due to the noise…only thing is…it was so quiet (probably from the mouths ajar from the obvious lack of understanding of his subject matter, much less his incoherence) you could hear a pin drop.

    Listened to it on Limbaugh, then again on Hannity’s radio show. Media blackout about all of his flubbed lines. Sooo protected. Deafening silence.

    Then you contrast that with HRC’s absolute knowledge about issues, details, it’s enough to put you in the bed until next year. Infuriating.

    Not hearing her on airwaves addressing important matters leaves a huge vacuum in our hearts & country.

    Yes, we are fighting for our basic rights and freedom. Big Brother is watching and waiting to turn our nation into a tyrannical state. This is real people.

    Those like John and Elizabeth Edwards, selling their souls to the devil, lose credibility in order to gain prominence. They merely represent scores of other turncoats. All for themselves. No one for us.

    It is true that we will not recognize this country in the near future. Our days of free blogging, protected under the First Amdendment could be limited as well under an Obama administration.

    Their goal: To eliminate all rational, moderate and conservative thought, is now apparent. We have found that out through the treatment of HRC.

    Christianity, whites and blue-collar workers under assault. The “New” Democratic Party has come out of the closet and declared WAR on this country with their Marxist regime. We’ve been put on notice.

    WE ARE EMBROILED IN AN UNPRECEDENTED REVOLUTION. WE REJECT COMMUNISM. WE REJECT THE TEACHINGS OF LENIN, STALIN, HITLER, MUSSOLINI. WE WILL NOT SIT IDLY BY AND LAMENT.

    WE WILL NOT LET THE FALLEN HEROES IN OUR NATION, FROM WORLD WAR I TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, BE IN VAIN. WE WILL NOT ALLOW THE PROGRESS OF OUR NATION BE FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET.

    WE WILL NOT ALLOW THE FURTHER HIJACKING AND OVERTHROWING OF OUR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY.

    WE WILL NOT HELP YOU IN “DOING US IN.”

    WE WILL NOT ASSIST YOU IN IMPLEMENTING A NEW WORLD ORDER, FUND THE WORLD WITH OUR TAX $.

    WE ARE NOT COMING HOME.

  126. You can’t wash away the terrible things he has said about the Clintons, the racist attacks he and his campaign have purpetrated on the Clintons, the horrid connections he has tried to hide, the cheating that went on in the caucuses, the media attacks, and above all those supporters who have spewed hatred towards Hillary, her family, and those of us who are her supporters.

    He hasn’t done anything to soothe the anger. He hasn’t taken responsibility for any of his gaffes and poor judgement calls.

  127. Rush is right, and it pains me no end to say that. If Hillary or Bush had sounded so inept, we’d never hear the end of it.

  128. Jesse Jackson Jr is the same piece of shite who said Hillary’s New Hampshire tears needed to be examined because they weren’t there for Katrina.

    Why should I give a flying fuck what that cuntbag says?!

    More new posters posted ridiculous shit?! (I’m starting to think that ridiculous flame war I saw and avoided yesterday was meant to disrupt any group think about what a back-stabbing scumbag Charlie Rangel is)

    Get the fuck out!!! I’m in no mood.

  129. Thought it was Jr’s wife that supports Hillary. I thought SR. was gripping about his daughter in law not backing BO.

  130. Paula, Thats what is being said, Jackson’s wife supports Hillary! There yah go again, women have the knowledge to tell the difference between a slug and a shiny new penny!

  131. blue democrat, I read that over at no quarter and I sincerely hope that its not true. I know you are sick of the shite, but everyone is. There are alot of new posters, but I been here for a while now, I am the one that put that out there.
    I do think there a lot of behind the scenes stuff going on!

  132. Just saw this on an AOL Blog

    Bill Cosby on Rev. Wright

    Article from Wall Street Journal:

    Rev.Wright epitomizes the thoughts and actions that have prevented and continue to prevent black America from moving ahead and achieving their potential as a people. He suggests that this United States of America made up of sons and daughters of immigrants (I’m talking of the millions of 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants in this country) of every race, creed, color and religion each and everyone of them who had nothing to do with slavery, some how owe something to a group of people who have never been slaves? Its amazing. It seems everyone is to blame for the shambles black society is in with its violence, drugs, high school drop out rates, misogyny, and a host of other real and virulent problems, except for the very people who engage in such behavior.

    Enough. As a society, culture or people, they should look within themselves and fix their problems.

    When did this man become the spokesman for the ‘black church’? And of course his church is different, but that doesn’t mean his message and philosophy is acceptable, or productive or non-offensive or not-racist or indicative of our greater cultural behaviors, values and norms of Americans.

    And yes, the link between this man and Obama really does matter. At a very minimum, it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to.

    Comment by Bill Cosby

  133. that’s ok blue, we are all so upset over being screwed out of the nomination for our girl, we are edgey!

    I can’t stand the idea of her getting his crumbs he throws out to her, it should be the other way around!

  134. I’m still waiting for the first analysis of how close the race was.

    Haven’t seen a single report on it – of course. Wasn’t expecting any.

    BM is all too happy to follow the “What Hill’s run meant for women” and “Where it went wrong’ narratives and steer clear of how she ‘lost’ a race she clearly won.
    Cocksuckers should all die miserable deaths.

    I’m a barrel of monkeys tonight, as you can see….

  135. anag52, that is a powerful statement coming from Bill Cosby. It does matter that Obama has sat in that church for 20 years.

    After reading that, maybe the DNC and Obama are expecting Bill and Hillary to pull him over the finish line!!

    If that is so, where is his apology to us????

  136. confloyd – I hear what you’re saying, Hillary should be calling the shots not BO.

    Imagine Beetle Bailey ( I love the cartoon). Anyway take Beetle out of the cartoon and substitute BO in his place, getting smashed by Sgt. That vision helps me.

  137. Again, I go back to my former posts, and I agree with anag52.

    We have been bullied. You don’t change that group from within, you change it from without.

    The group must fail with the bully at the lead.

  138. Bill Cosby and Pastor Manning totally “get it.” They validate what we have all felt. BHO sets back race relations fifty years. Black Liberation Theology teaches victimization. Plain and simple. Does absolutely NOTHING to advance the cause of unity, acceptance, tolerance between different cultures. POISONOUS.

  139. The Democratic National Committee either doesn’t get it or refuses to admit it. Nothing short of a lengthy, detailed mea culpa by the DNC and by Obama himself, directed to Clinton supporters for the sexist name-calling and personal, nasty characterizations Clinton was alone forced to endure, will do. Even that may not persuade these voters to consider supporting the party this fall. The DNC, Democratic Party leaders in Congress, and Obama should have been at her side, calling her treatment by the media (and even by some Obama supporters) unacceptable.

    According to most polls, something in the range of 20 to 25 percent of her 18 million supporters say they’ll vote for Senator McCain in November. That’s 4.5 million votes—too many to take for granted. Yet taking them for granted is just what the party and Obama are doing. When CNN’s Candy Crowley asked Obama how he would appeal to disaffected Clinton voters, he missed the mark entirely, giving a standard set of policy proposals. … ..

    Obama and the Democrats Owe Hillary Clinton and Her Supporters a Formal Apology for the Campaign’s Sexism

    FROM TAYLOR MARSH

  140. NewMexicoFan Says:
    The group must fail with the bully at the lead.

    Hmmmmm – I wonder if the problem we’re having getting under BO’s skin is that we are treating him as an adult rather than a child bully.

    How do you stop a bully at school?

  141. The only way you can change this from within, is if someone strong within the group challenges the lead bully. Hillary did that. She has been beated back into the group. It is up to us to rescure her.

    Remember, Hillary has few choices at this point. But we have the big choice, who we will support in November. Expect people to fold back in. We need 10% to change to McCain, and we will succeed.

    One of the most distasteful things on that Hillary Sexists utube was the Kentucky Fried Chicken sign. Hillary Special: two large thighs and small breast. I could not believe that.

    We have made only superficial progress. No one should think they have a right to talk about someone or treat them with this disrespect. I don’t care if the person was a ditch digger, a sign like that should have brought definmation of character charges.

  142. exactly anag52, I call him a bully and the supporters of Obama bullies, they are aware of the tatics they are using and to deny it or minimize it is full of it. Its fear tatics and this is pissing me off. No way do I ever plan on supporting Obama.

  143. Apologies for sexism, misogyny, vitrolic statements, verbal abuse, gender bias, etc., do not work. It is too deep. Change in behavior, is what people will have to see. Words don’t mean anything, without actions to back them up.

  144. NewMexicoFan – This reminds me of the time a BO fan started sending hate mail to my personal email account. I was livid that they had such nerve! I emailed the person back and she sent me the Hillary Special as an apology, what balls. That just reinforced my resolve against BO even more and his supporters.

  145. Sandy, cwille, anyone else who thinks Hillary really wants us to vote for Obama — Please read this!

    h t t p : / / savagepolitics.com/?p=652

  146. Anag52.

    I really think there are within forces, and without forces. He has all of the within forces knuckled under Hillary was his only real challenge.

    We are going to distroy him from without. There is a narrow road here. Where should Hillary be in all of this. I know she wants to save the Democratic party.

    It is only we who can champion destroying it from without. RNC, moving over to the Reps, voting McCain, all of those are outside group dynamics the Bully cannot control. I also think, late in the campaigh, should he be the nominee, some of those priceless utube videos need to hit the air waves again.

  147. Don’t get me wrong about ditch diggers, they do honorable hard work, and they are honest upstanding people. I think everyone in our society deserves respect. Certainly people running for office should be treated that way.

  148. NewMexicoFan Says – I agree with you. We’re the outside forces and unlike the kool-aid drinkers, we are not controlled by the BOrg!

  149. This blog doesn’t seem to want to post this comment. WTH?

    I’m still waiting for the first analysis of how close the race was.

    Haven’t seen a single report on it – of course. Wasn’t expecting any.

    BM is all too happy to follow the “What Hill’s run meant for women” and “Where it went wrong’ narratives and steer clear of how she ‘lost’ a race she clearly won.
    Cocksuckers should all die miserable deaths.

    I’m a barrel of monkeys tonight, as you can see….

  150. 3 times I tried to post a rather innocuous comment. Strike 3.

    Something funky’s definitely going on.

    I’ve also had about 4 other posts vanish the last few days.

    BTW, I was trying to point out that there has been virtually no analysis of how close the race was. Not an accident either.
    BM is all-too-happy with the post scripts and “What’s Hil’s run meant to women” narratives.

  151. justmeinmountdorafl – exactly! WE won’t be part of the collective. Hillary was John Luc, where’s No 1?

  152. This is from C & L;

    Buried in this piece on Obama books coming out this summer and fall, I spotted this little tidbit:

    The left-wing Verso Books has just released “The Decline of Black Politics: From Malcolm X to Barack Obama,” by civil rights activist Kevin Alexander Gray. The conservative Regnery Publishing just announced two books for August: David Freddoso’s “The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate,” and Thomas Blood’s “The Clinton Collapse: How Bill Clinton Lost Hillary Her ‘Sure Thing’ Nomination (And Might Even Make Obama Lose Too).”

    “We intend to put him under the microscope, and we think readers will be very interested to learn what we uncover,” says Marji Ross, president and publisher of Regnery, which in 2004 released “Unfit for Command,” the best-selling attack against Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry.

    Yes, we knew it would happen, but the Swift Boaters are officially back.

  153. Blue Democrat Says

    BTW, I was trying to point out that there has been virtually no analysis of how close the race was. Not an accident either.
    *********
    “THEY” don’t give a shit. “THEY” are patting themselves on the back for doing such a good job on smearing Hillary.

  154. I went over to Hillary’s site. I saw some bloggers saying they will support Hillary in voting for McCain. I don;t think they are the same bloggers. How soon they forget. We will have to really work hard to get McCain elected

  155. McCain has gained two percentage points in the AOL Straw Poll. He is up by 8% (54% to 46%).

    I did not think McCains group was that organized. Obviously, the computer people voting think he is going to do it.

    Quick, the Obama group needs to organize some Caucuses for the GE. After all, rules mean nothing to them.

  156. THIS IS WHAT OBAMA, THE DNC, AND ABUSIVE HUSBANDS
    HAVE IN COMMON:

    not only does your husband beat you and bruise you physically,
    but he always hurts you emotionally.

    EVERYTHING is always your fault, if only you hadnt done this
    it would not have happened.
    IF ONLY you had been a better person, we wouldnt have gotten
    in this mess. AND YOU BELIEVE IT EVENTUALLY, and hate yourself,
    you always try to be better.
    IN PRIVATE he tells you that you are worthles, he tells you, that
    you are stupid. he tells you, you are mentally ill, and he will
    have to take the kids away for their safety.
    HE THREATENS you, with harm and even death.
    IN PUBLIC he is concerned, in private, he plays horrible mind games.
    HE ALWAYS TREATS OTHERS WITH GREAT LOVE AND RESPECT,
    HE ALWAYS TREATS YOU LIKE A DOG.
    HE GIVES the shirt off his back to his friends, he lives to humiliate
    you in private.

    THIS IS WHAT OBAMA IS DOING TO HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
    i am disgusted that she is campaigning for him, in fact, i cannot
    believe she is allowing these people to do this to her.
    this is not a good precedent. women around the country
    are literally having fits as we speak because of this…
    and men around the country who are good chivalrous men, are
    blowing their gaskets over this.
    and let us be clear on this, he has mrs edwards filling that position,
    to further humiliate and demean her, and punish her.

    HOW CAN THIS BE RIGHT?
    SHE IS ALLOWING WOMEN RIGHTS TO BE SET BACK ANOTHER
    50 YEARS.

    I AM MIND BLOWN AT HER RIGHT NOW. something is very wong,
    and we need to know why she does not see it…
    what a message this is giving to young women and little girls.
    on the same token, this is reinforcing in young men, that it works!
    WRONG! BAD! THIS IS BAD…
    WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION, WE REALLY DO…

  157. I read somewhere, I think camille, but that now Obama is going to give us a Sunday school lessons! How the isrealites were led out of slavery by joshua. He is also starting what is called the Joshua Project which will take aim at school age kids 12 to 14, he planning on brain washing them into voting for him I guess in 2012.

    This guy is soooo scarey!!!!!! I guess he believes he is the one who will lead us out of bondage??? Who is he anyway, the antichrist!!

  158. confloyd,

    Obama Plans Major Outreach to Young Evangelicals and Catholics
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 07:44:42 PM EST
    Tags: Barack Obama, 2008 (all tags) Share This:
    What do Barack Obama and the Democrats have to offer young evangelicals and Catholics? We’ll soon find out. Obama is launching the Joshua Generation Project to bring more of them on board with his campaign.

    The name is based on the biblical story of how Joshua’s generation led the Israelites into the Promised Land. A source close to the Obama campaign tells The Brody File the following:

    “The Joshua Generation project will be the Obama campaign’s outreach to young people of faith. There’s unprecedented energy and excitement for Obama among young evangelicals and Catholics. The Joshua Generation project will tap into that excitement and provide young people of faith opportunities to stand up for their values and move the campaign forward.”

    Why would evangelicals and Catholics support a pro-choice candidate? Is he planning on modifying his position? Are his campaign speeches going to incorporate religion even more than they have in the past?

  159. Our second action item for today and for the next few days, is to as quickly as possible, preserve as much documentation and videos as possible. The official Hillary for President website might be shut down soon. Videos will begin to disappear. Documentation will soon begin to disappear. Everyone should try to salvage as much of that information as possible – as quickly as possible. Don’t forget to rescue the affiliated sites. The Factcheck website has already disappeared. Act quickly.

    Remember SAVE, SAVE, SAVE!!!

    Okay what are the tools to download my videos?

  160. What do Barack Obama and the Democrats have to offer young evangelicals and Catholics? We’ll soon find out. Obama is launching the Joshua Generation Project to bring more of them on board with his campaign.
    *****************************************************
    It’s called brainwashing your children to be little sexist racists. That’s a fact….and with priests like Fr. Pfleger running that crap in their church…the founding fathers were CORRECT about SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE. Team Obama is going to keep that Church bribery thing going so that the focus is not on GOD but on the “annoited one.”

  161. meiyingsu, I know, I read the article. I am a end times researcher. I have many books on the subject, and this guy is just scarey the way he wants control the youth and the media and of coarse the internet!

    I am listening to Jay Leno, what the hell are they going to do to make money when Hillary is out of the public eye. I think they all need to send her a check for this use of her face for all these years. She should like copyright herself, so they can’t use it unless they freaking pay her money!!

  162. meiyingsu Says

    Why would evangelicals and Catholics support a pro-choice candidate?
    *********
    I just sent a letter to Focus on the Family, led by Dr. James Dobson, asking if this was true. Dr. Dobson is one of the leaders of Evangelism.

  163. Hey NOBama, why go to all the trouble of launching some costly program to bring religion to our young? You can just buy all the kids bus tickets to TUCC and have them sit next to your children. I’m sure that would be an eye-opening experience for them.

  164. I am Catholic and to call Pfleger, Father is revolting. I will not acknowledge him as a Priest. He’s not Preist of the God I worship, I will tell you that!!

  165. Hi everyone…. i’ve been out all day and evening…..so i have lots to catch up on!

    wanted to pass this link on to all of you before i start reading up thread aways to catch up 😀

    h t t p : / / millionwomenmarch.blogspot.com/

  166. h t t p : / / exposeobama.com/

    chicagotribune.com
    ‘Willie Horton’ admaker taking aim at Obama
    By Richard B. Schmitt
    Tribune Newspapers
    June 9, 2008

    WASHINGTON — On a Web site he calls ExposeObama.com, Floyd Brown, the producer of the “Willie Horton” ad that helped to defeat Michael Dukakis in 1988, is preparing an encore.

    Brown is raising money for a series of ads that he says will show Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to be out of touch on an issue of fundamental concern to voters: violent crime.

    A video already on the Internet attacks the presumptive Democratic nominee for opposing a bill while an Illinois legislator that would have extended the death penalty to gang-related murders.

    “When the time came to get tough, Obama chose to be weak. … Can a man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?” it asks.

    Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said, “Sen. Obama has a record that demonstrates he is both tough and smart on crime.”

    Though crime has taken a back seat in the presidential race to the Iraq War and the economy, some Republicans think Obama is vulnerable on that issue—and they hope to inject it into the campaign.

    The vast amount of crime-fighting in the U.S. is done at the state and local level, not in the White House. Critics say the issue of crime is used primarily to exploit voter fears and stir up prejudices.

    The “Willie Horton” ad focused on a black Massachusetts felon who raped a woman while on weekend furlough from prison. Dukakis, the Democratic presidential candidate in 1988, was governor at the time and supported the program.

    Also Sunday, presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain and Obama rejected an offer from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and ABC News to host the first proposed presidential town hall because they do not want it limited to one TV network.

    Los Angeles Times; The Associated Press contributed.

  167. from “newwomensparty” a yahoo email group i am on

    DAILY CALL TO ACTION: ALL HANDS ON DECK!

    18 million hands – send them to the DNC!

    1. Trace your hands on an 8×11 sheet of paper. Make it colorful to grab attention.
    2. Write your name and city/state in the center of your hands and the words “I am one of 18 million.”
    3. Above the hands, write: “These hands are on the front lines of democracy. I pledge I will not vote for Obama.”
    4. Below the hands, write a line or two about your reasons you won’t vote for BO, why you are upset with the DNC, or whatever stirs your soul. We suggest you keep it fairly brief for maximum impact.
    5. Put it in an envelope and send it off to the DNC.
    Democratic National Committee
    430 S. Capitol St. SE
    Washington, DC 20003
    6. Pass it on!!! Post this call to arms wherever you can! Let’s bombard the DNC with the millions of hands of the voters they dismissed, ignored, disenfranchised and belittled. And remember the old saying – “Many hands make light work.”

    Special note if you live in Florida: Make it just half a hand! Let them know you’d like to be a whole person again.

  168. Evening all….

    Admin…that video made me cry. I have tried to copy the url as I want to send it out to folks but for some reason I cannot. Can anyone help?

    Also, djia…that is a great HAND Campaign!

    Especially the Florida Hand! LOL. I know which two-and-a-half fingers I will trace!

  169. “Joshua Project” = Effort to gain votes from two groups who are leaving Bambi in droves. The Catholics don’t like him and the Evangelicals have gone from thinking he’s the Second Coming to thinking he’s the Anti-Christ.

    Very transparent move by the Bambster and his puppetmasters.

  170. mccain zinger via halperin:

    “Senator Obama says that I’m running for a Bush’s third terms. It seems to me he’s running for Jimmy Carter’s second.”

  171. Norma…… I thought so too 😀

    was happy to pass it on…… hope everyone here passes onto other blogs etc

  172. neeta….I told the DNC to KMA several many months ago. The don’t write to me any more. 😀

  173. Paul F. Villarreal (AKA Universal) Says:
    “Joshua Project” = Effort to gain votes from two groups who are leaving Bambi in droves.
    ******************
    Early in the campaign there were quotes that teenagers were changing their parents minds and supporting Obama. I think this is part of that.

    One thing that disturbs me the most is BO’s website is now trying to attract school age children.
    Click here: my.barackobama.com | Kids for Obama Home
    This is disgusting!

  174. asking again: can anyone pick up the url for Admin’s posted video in this thread? I cannt seem to copy the link and I would like to send it out

  175. Political Viagra

    By MARK STEYN
    June 9, 2008
    http://www.nysun.com/opinion/political-viagra/79550/

    The short version of the Democratic Party primary campaign is that The short version of the Democratic Party primary campaign is that the media fell in love with Barack Obama but the Democratic electorate declined to. “I felt this thrill going up my leg,” said MSNBC’s Chr my leg,” said MSNBC’s Chris Matthews after one of the Senator’s speeches. “I mean, I don’t have that too often.” Au contraire, Chris and the rest of the gang seem to be getting the old tingle up the thigh hairs on a nightly basis. If Obama is political Viagra, the media are at that stage in the ad where the announcer warns that, if leg tingles persist for over six months, see your doctor.
    Out there in the voting booths, however, Democrat legs stayed admirably unthrilled. The more the media told Hillary she was toast and she should get the hell out of it and let Obama romp to victory, the more Democrats insisted on voting for her. The more the media insisted Barack was inevitable, the less inclined the voters were to get with the program. On the strength of Chris Matthews’ vibrating calves, Senator Obama raised a ton of money — over $300 million — and massively outspent Senator Clinton, but he didn’t really get any bang for his buck. In the end, he crawled over the finish line. The Obama Express came a-hurtlin’ down the track at two miles an hour.
    But what does he care? Senator Obama has learned an old trick of Bill Clinton’s: If you behave like a star, you’ll get treated as one. So, even as his numbers weakened, his rhetoric soared. By the time he wrapped up his “victory” speech last week, the great gaseous uplift had his final paragraphs floating in delirious hallucination along the Milky Way:
    “I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people… I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal… This was the moment — this was the time — when we came together to remake this great nation …”
    It’s a good thing he’s facing it with “profound humility,” isn’t it? Because otherwise who knows what he’d be saying. But mark it in your calendars: June 3rd 2008 — the long awaited day, after 232 years, that America began to provide care for the sick. Just a small test program: 47 attendees of the Obama speech were taken to hospital and treated for nausea. Everyone else came away thrilled that the Obamessiah was going to heal the planet and reverse the rise of the oceans: when Barack wants to walk on the water, he doesn’t want to have to use a step-ladder to get up on it.
    There are generally two reactions to this kind of policy proposal. The first was exemplified by The Atlantic Monthly’s Marc Ambinder:
    “What a different emotional register from John McCain’s; Obama seems on the verge of tears; the enormous crowd in the Xcel Center seems ready to lift Obama on its shoulders; the much smaller audience for McCain’s speech interrupted his remarks with stilted cheers.”
    The second reaction boils down to: “‘Heal the planet’? Is this guy nuts?” To be honest I prefer a republic whose citizenry can muster no greater enthusiasm for their candidate than “stilted cheers” to one in which the crowd wants to hoist the nominee onto their shoulders for promising to lower ocean levels within his first term. As for coming together “to remake this great nation,” if it’s so great, why do we have to remake it? A few months back, just after the New Hampshire primary, a Canadian reader of mine — John Gross of Quebec — sent me an all-purpose stump speech for the 2008 campaign:
    “My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.”
    I thought this was so cute, I posted it on the web at National Review. Whereupon one of those Internetty-type things happened, and three links and a Google search later the line was being attributed not to my correspondent but to Senator Obama, and a few weeks after that I started getting emails from reporters from Florida to Oregon asking if I could recall at which campaign stop the Senator in fact uttered these words. And I’d patiently write back and explain that they’re John Gross’ words, and that not even Barack would be dumb enough to say such a thing in public. Yet last week his demand in his victory speech that we “come together to remake this great nation” came awful close.
    Speaking personally, I don’t want to remake America. I’m an immigrant and one reason I came here is because most of the rest of the western world remade itself along the lines Senator Obama has in mind. This is pretty much the end of the line for me. If he remakes America, there’s nowhere for me to go — although presumably once he’s lowered sea levels around the planet there should be a few new atolls popping up here and there.
    Marc Ambinder is right. Obama’s rhetoric is in a different “emotional register” from John McCain’s. It’s in a different “emotional register” from every U.S. president — not just the Coolidges but the Kennedys, too. Nothing in Obama’s resume suggests he’s the man to remake America and heal the planet. Only this week, another of his pals bit the dust, convicted by a Chicago jury of 16 counts of this and that. “This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew,” said the Senator, in what’s becoming a standard formulation. Likewise, this wasn’t the Jeremiah Wright he knew. And these are guys he’s known for 20 years. Yet at the same time as he’s being stunned by the corruption and anti-Americanism of those closest to him, Obama’s convinced that just by jetting into Tehran and Pyongyang he can get to know America’s enemies and persuade them to hew to the straight and narrow. No doubt if it all goes belly up and Iran winds up nuking Tel Aviv, President Obama will put on his more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger face and announce solemnly that “this isn’t the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew.”
    Every time I hear an Obama speech, I start to giggle. But millions of voters don’t. And, if Chris Matthews and the tingly-legged media get their way and drag Obama across the finish line this November, the laugh will be on those of us who think that serious times demand grown-up rhetoric.
    © 2008 Mark Steyn

  176. skmf12, you may be on to something, I remember NC and how she was trying so hard to keep it a close loss. I personally think that was a set up, I think some party members loved watching her work her ass off all the while knowing they were going to screw her in the end.

    Hillary is one smart lady so try to remember, there is such a thing as giving someone enough rope to hang themselves. She is probably setting a trap he will not be able to get out of>

  177. Norma Desmond Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 12:15 am
    neeta….I told the DNC to KMA several many months ago. The don’t write to me any more.

    I told them i was supporting McCain. Now i get this survey from them

  178. More great stuff from noquarter!
    noquarterusa.net/blog/

    A Soldier Speaks »
    By PaganPower on June 9, 2008 at 9:09 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Democrats, Hillary Clinton | 28 Comments
    This video is from a soldier named Patsy. Do you recall the recent “rant” published here? Dd you read “A Soldier For Hillary Writes a Rant [Updated]“?
    Well, Sgt. Patsy — stationed at Ft. Bragg — is a Hillary supporter who is more than a little concerned with the direction the Democratic party has taken. I wouldn’t call this a rant. It is a heartfelt clear expression of intelligence. And yes, it’s a little long.
    But I found every moment of this communication valuable and I am grateful that Patsy chose to speak her mind with such beautiful clarity. I’m sure you’ll agree.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9PsDebTrw

  179. thanks admin!

    I USUALLY Can, but tonight it didnt want to work…

    too tired computer, i suppose ;-D

    thanks!

    xoxo

  180. favorite posts on youtube from supporters of senator Obama’s…regarding MO PHONEBANKING

    “A sister for fists lady. Now we’re getting somewhere. It’s a whole new day, and for the first time I am really proud of what this nation can do politically.”

    “Dude she is very attractive and very well educated and her speeches are so powerful and politically profound and very economical reasoing to them! Peace.”

    (huh?)

    and for those who can read between THESE lines….

    “Well Thank God, Hillary doesn’t look like Michelle Obama!!”

  181. my.barackobama.com/page/content/kidskit

    OMG! Look at this: Kids for Obama

    Do you feel like you want to get involved in the political process but you don’t know how? Do you feel like there’s something important coming up in the Presidential elections? Get involved in KIDS FOR OBAMA! Studies have shown that kids can affect their parents and their siblings’ opinions and even change the opinions of older family members . . . including those of voting age. Are you still with me? Great, Let’s get started!

    Isn’t there a law against this? Politics and kids? What is this pre-war Germany?

  182. I linked to the site, from a different one, and it is scary. Parties for kids, indoctrinating them with BO. Isn’t there an oversight group for this??? This is what dictatorships do.

  183. I have visions of millions of three-year-olds throwing HUGE TANTRUMS at the polling places in November….kicking and screaming…until Mommie votes for Obama…

    then she takes him to McDonalds to “reward” him because the wicked woman made him feel so badly

    WHAT ON EARTH is going on?

    Davis Axelrod and Co. have totally lost ALL SENSE of Morallity

  184. That does it. I can never, ever, vote for someone like this, even if Hillary is on the ticket. This isn’t the democratic party any longer. It is a party of facists. I think, I am losing my mind. What is going on??? Our party elders have sold us out.

  185. birdgal, I just watched a video of Rev.Manning calling Bambi, Hitler! He is saying the man is dangerous. This kids for Obama has thrown me for a loop, this is the craziest thing I have ever heard of! I wonder if the News networks know of this campaign. They are putting in a couple of weeks!

  186. These educated folks want to introduce politics to their children through Obama, can you believe this????

    I wonder what Hillary thinks of this???

  187. Have you looked at the website? There is a “to-do” list for having a party. I only looked at it briefly, so I wouldn’t get brain-washed.

  188. birdgal, yeah LOL, its kind of scarey, you enter at your own risk!! But isn’t this some Sh&^??? This is exactly what Hitler did!! This guy, is scarey as SH*&!!

  189. When I first read of this, he was going to teach us about the promise land. Then I find out he is launching a campaign for kids.

    Incidently, my daughter says the antichrist can not have sons only daughters. I keep trying to laugh this off, but I mean its getting so far out!!

  190. hi hillfans. have not been on in some days to decompress. anyway i just got home and checked my email. hillary’s campaign sent me a notice of stopping my automatic monthly contribution from my checking account. i wondered about that for a few days. i figured they would let the automatic giving would continue to help her with her debt.

  191. birdgal, me neither, I googled obama/antichrist and got to a real scarey website. Its all done in black and all. I am scaring myself, I think I need to call it a night and go to bed! LOL!!

  192. terrondt, Im thinking you must work nights or evenings, cause you seem to get on when I get on. Of coarse I have been home for a few days cause I hurt my back and I have been on bedrest for a week.

  193. This is what I wrote to Obama’s campaign, depending on the reply, I may send all of it to Bill O’Reilly. He’s always talking about protecting kids.

    I just noticed your Obama for Kids site. How low can you stoop?! Your children are not in the campaign, lay off of our children! There are fights in school about this. Is this how you show responsibility? Where is your judgement? If you don’t remove this site, I will assume you do not care about children.

  194. He is trying to get to adults through their kids. Heck, it worked for Carter and Claire, and many others. The authorities need to get involved.

  195. Terrondt, that’s exactly my shift, but only have a 10 minute commute, although that will be changing soon. Always enjoys reading your posts. I am thankful be have this site, it is my favorite, but there are news sprouting every day.

    I just watched the fox video of PUMA and now they are saying that Howard Dean is stripping Hillary of her delegates and is taking her name off the ballot at the convention. Can they do this???

  196. Confloyd: I guess, they can do anything they want, but if they do this, people will really harden. Unbelievable.

  197. thanks confloyd. i worked locally but i got my old job back 4 months ago. the gas prices are tough. but the bennies and pay are much better.

  198. They can’t do this, they let Kennedy take it to the convention with 700 delegates short. What is a matter with these people??

  199. What do you think will happen if they successfully remove her delegates before August?? I think there might be a revolt?? This man is taking over the party!! They must have something they are holding over her or vice versa! I truly wish Hillary had the tape!

  200. Dija: thanks for posting sergeant patsy. What a perceptive and articulate woman she is. She is a general in the army of Hillary supporters.

  201. wwboei: what do you think, about stripping Hillary of her delegates and taking her name off the ballot? there is a rumor going around the net, that Dean is planning on doing this.

  202. They are freaking out that she might win, thats all and they put their money on the Bambi horse!

  203. Party Unity, My Ass group shows Obama’s fight aheadBy Lincoln Archer
    June 10, 2008 02:40pm
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    Diehard Clintonites rally web support
    Plan guerilla online protests against Obama
    US presidential election: Obama vs McCain

    A GROUP of disgruntled Hillary Clinton supporters is using the blogosphere to maintain the rage and actively lobby against Barack Obama’s run for the US presidency.

    The group, calling itself Party Unity, My Ass (PUMA), emerged in the days before Hillary Clinton’s withdrawal from the Democratic nomination race over the weekend and demands from the party hierarchy for her backers to coalesce behind the Obama camp in the fight against John McCain.

    “We will not be bullied, brainwashed, or bossed into falling in line,” the PUMAs say. One member has told NEWS.com.au: “They pushed the weaker of two candidates over the edge and will have to deal with the consequences – President McCain.”

    The site uses a free blogging application, WordPress, to assemble anti-Obama sentiment in its bid to avert what it fears will be a massive loss if Senator Obama is allowed to remain as the Democratic nominee.

    As attention was drawn to the site, its organisers quickly changed the acronym’s meaning to People United Means Action – but its agenda shows the original name was closer to the mark.

    It calls for Democratic party chairman Howard Dean to be bombarded with protest emails and for outraged Clinton supporters to quit the party completely. It says “unfaithful superdelegates” – party insiders who have backed Senator Obama in states won by Senator Clinton – should have their inboxes flooded by complaints.

    It also urges contributors to revoke any money they have sent to the Democratic party – a potentially telling blow as a long battle against the Republican party kicks off.

    “We are protesting the 2008 Presidential Election because we refuse to support a nominee who was selected by the leadership rather than elected by the voters,” the PUMAs say.

    “Hillary was a candidate for the ages, historic by her very presence in the race. She inspired millions with her grace under pressure.”

    After she announced the suspension of her campaign, the PUMAs said: “Today is a shameful day”.

    They also warn that Senator Obama will take the party to a “50-state, landslide loss” at the general election against Senator McCain in November.

    “We are Democrats who will not vote for Barack Obama for president. We will not support a ‘unity ticket’ with Hillary Clinton as the vice-president,” they say.

    “We will not donate … to the DNC or any of its affiliate organisations until they wake up, listen to the voices of the voters in ALL 50 states, and start distancing themselves from this disastrous nominee.”

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23840402-5012572,00.html#

  204. Obama Camp Reaches Out To Clinton Fundraisers
    Posted by Brian Montopoli| 10

    Now that Hillary Clinton has called on her supporters to rally around presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama, Obama’s campaign is trying to win over some of Clinton’s biggest financial backers.

    Obama’s campaign manager David Plouffe will meet with a group of top Clinton fundraisers on Thursday in Manhattan, reports Talking Points Memo. “It’s an effort by the Obama campaign to reach out to Hillary’s major supporters to ask them for their help and to be involved in the general election campaign,” one fundraiser said.

    This is the first such session, and involved Obama’s major fundraisers reaching out to major donors who backed his former rival.

    “It’s really people leveraging their relationships,” the Obama fundraiser told TPM. “The [Clinton donors] will be more comfortable if they’re contacted by people they know, rather than someone nameless and faceless to them. A lot of people [on both sides] know each other.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/06/09/politics/horserace/entry4165747.shtml

  205. I just read that Obama is on target to raise 100million in June! OMG, those damn republicans need to spit that tape out NOW!! This is bad, poor old MCCain will not be able to stand up to the money!!

  206. The arrogance of Obama’s leftist supporters
    http://www.eurekareporter.com/article/080609-the-arrogance-of-obamas-leftist-supporters

    except:
    The Obama era would vindicate the complaints of the leftist malcontents. He would end this “unnecessary war, which has not made us safer,” would “provide” every American health care, would punish the evil rich and would turn back the tide on global warming. He would unify the American people in the process, in glorious validation of the left’s warped assertion that Bush never tried to unite Americans.

    It’s astonishing that these people touting Obama as a uniter are so blind to their own bilious hatred and divisiveness. They called Bush a Nazi, derided Condoleezza Rice as “Brown Sugar” and “Aunt Jemima,” and labeled John Ashcroft a “witch burner.”

    They never allowed the facts to interfere with their predispositions, such as denouncing Bush as a divider even while Sen. Kennedy was stabbing him in the back for fulfilling his promise to work with him on the education bill.

    Today their calls for unity are no less insincere, unless by unity they mean the gleeful, unanimous acceptance of their radical leftist agenda by a center-right nation marching in lockstep like obedient Stepford wives.

    Unless we accede to their extremist vision for America — one that could change our governing institutions to the point of making them unrecognizable to the nation’s Founders — we will be the evil obstructors.

    It’s nothing new for advocates of socialism, isolationism, appeasement, multiculturalism, defeatism and American non-exceptionalism to flex their muscles and gain power for a time. Yet expecting to effect such far-reaching and potentially devastating changes to this nation in the name of unity is breathtakingly arrogant.

  207. BerkeleyVox, Did you see how much money he will be raising in June alone??? I don’t think McCain has anywhere near that much! Last I heard it was around 35 mil. GWB won, he had more money than anyone and thats why he won!!

    I hope that tape gets out soon, it is quickly becoming more than being pist at the way they treated Hillary to saving our country from this man!!!

  208. Pelosi backs Emanuel for senator from Ill.
    June 8, 2008Recommend (5)

    BY ROBERT NOVAK Sun-Times Columnist
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is reported to be privately talking about Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the House Democratic Caucus chairman, as the next senator from Illinois if Sen. Barack Obama wins the presidential election.

    Emanuel told this column he is not interested in the Senate and has not talked to Pelosi about it. He also suggested that Pelosi might be saying she would regret losing him from her leadership team. However, the source quoting the speaker indicated she was enthusiastic about Emanuel’s elevation to the Senate.

    Footnote: The same source said Pelosi indicated that House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer would be her eventual successor as speaker, even though she opposed his election to the second-ranking leadership position. Emanuel has been widely mentioned as the speaker of the next decade.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/993409,CST-EDT-novak08.article

  209. Birdgal, I really think its the communist party too. WTF are we all going to do?? I am beginning to wonder if this is a coup from within!!

  210. Confloyd wrote:

    BerkeleyVox, Did you see how much money he will be raising in June alone??? I don’t think McCain has anywhere near that much! Last I heard it was around 35 mil. GWB won, he had more money than anyone and thats why he won!!
    ——————–

    I know, it’s insane, isn’t it? Funny thing is, McCain has managed to lure Obama to the brink of accepting TEN town hall debates, which is NOT Obama’s element, at all. It’s perfect for McCain: it means free airtime, in a favorable setting, and it means there will be that much LESS coverage of Obama in his element (i.e., rock concert venues with adoring fans, etc.)

    Obama’s definitely figured out how to crack the system. Once Hillary started fundraising the same way he did, she began raking it in, too, but Obama got a head start. There are 3 things propping up Obama’s campaign: heaps of money, an overly-PC media, and a telegenic candidate who can give a hell of a speech. Other than that? Nada. No resume, no impressive legislative accomplishments, etc.

  211. Hillary Clinton: Path-Breaking Pain in the Ass

    Rebecca Traister has a great reflection on Hillary over at Salon (via Ben Smith sidekick Avi Zenilman):

    But while we may all wish that our groundbreaking leaders came in prettier packages, and that high butterfat cheese was good for us, the reality is that we get what we get. And we got Hillary Clinton. In no small part, we probably got her thanks to the very reasons so many can’t abide her: her ambition, her ruthlessness, her gift for triangulation, her marriage, her centrism, her hawkishness. It’s an exceedingly uncommon alchemy; in more than two centuries of American history, no woman has been able to break into the presidential boys club, and I can’t think of many women of sterling liberal character who would have succeeded where she failed to satisfy all feminists. Wake me when Barbara Ehrenreich can win Ohio, you know?

    Like it or not, Hillary Rodham Clinton was the first female battering ram to rattle the Oval Office door, and while sorrowful Hillary-heads may lyrically and lovingly catalog her many achievements, her bravery and grace, I’d prefer to think of her as she actually has been: a pain in the ass to support, an often inept and ungainly campaigner. She was ill-behaved, she made mistakes, and waged an often dirty and tone-deaf campaign, performing precious few electoral pirouettes. But she also pulverized any quaint notions of what presidential races are supposed to look like and how girls might compete in them. …

    And, yes, it’s terrific that generations of little girls will grow up knowing that women can run for president. But count me as gratified that those who do so will also know they are not responsible for bearing the highest expectations for their gender’s morality and politesse, because one hell of a difficult dame has been there before them and knocked everybody around pretty hard.

    I kinda think this is how she’ll be remembered once everyone gets over last Tuesday’s terrible non-concession. At least if Obama wins…

    –Noam Scheiber

    blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/06/09/hillary-clinton-path-breaking-pain-in-the-ass.aspx

  212. confloyd Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 3:05 am
    BerkeleyVox, Did you see how much money he will be raising in June alone??? I don’t think McCain has anywhere near that much! Last I heard it was around 35 mil. GWB won, he had more money than anyone and thats why he won!!

    I hope that tape gets out soon, it is quickly becoming more than being pist at the way they treated Hillary to saving our country from this man!!!
    *****************************************************
    Money won’t help you if people don’t vote for you. Obama out spent Hillary 5 to 1 and STILL lost the popular vote. My problem is the laziness and arrogance of the political elite on both sides thinking they don’t have to earn the voters votes.

  213. Carby, its women like the pundit you just posted are an embarrassment to our gender. They are so jealous they can’t even see the forest for the trees. The only pain in ass is her and many twisted sisters!!

  214. Carby, I hope and pray you are right, the country can’t afford this jerk, hell I can’t either!!

  215. wwboei: what do you think, about stripping Hillary of her delegates and taking her name off the ballot? there is a rumor going around the net, that Dean is planning on doing this.
    ————————————————
    Do these rumor mongers tell us on what basis he could do that because I sure dont see any. Dean is no rocket scientist, but I do not think he is that stupid. Ask them to provide you with the specific legal basis for doing that or else shut the fuck up. See what they say.

  216. Carby: dont read Novak. He is a guttersnipe. Any correllation between what he says in his columns and what if really true is coincidental.

    And why in the world are you posting that hatepiece by that dickhead noam sheib. He is probably related to earl and has been sniffing airplane glue for too many years. He belongs in the garbage can not here.

  217. One thing that disturbs me the most is BO’s website is now trying to attract school age children.
    Click here: my.barackobama.com | Kids for Obama Home
    This is disgusti
    ———————————————–
    Shortly before the polls closed in West Virginia a small group of bambi supporters came to the sidewalk across the street from our office with bambi signs and phoney news photographers. We set up on all three of the surroundig corner with totem poll signs for hillary, and went on to win the state by a 41%margin. But I did notice how many childen were in his troup. One of them was 8 years old and damned near got hit by a car during the above activities and I swear to you on a stack of bibles I had nothing to do with it.

    Here again the totalitarian model comes into play.
    The bolsheviks would take the children out of the home at an early age to indoctrinate them and send them back into the home to indoctrinate the parents and rat them out if they said things which were contrary to the leader.

  218. June 9th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
    Jesse Jackson Jr is just saying to put Hillary as VP because he’s not getting any. His wife is a diehard Hillary fan and has refused to endorse BO. The family said.

    Really? Wow, that household must be intense. He is a co-chairman for the national committee, if I recollect
    ———————————————
    How could such a smart woman marry such a dumb man?

    On second thought dont answer-I withdraw the question.

  219. Guys, all these gimmicky things you’re mailing to the DNC wll just go straight to the landfill — probabaly straght from the Post Office!

    Don’t send them to the DNC, send them to Leno or someone like that. Show a disitrested party how many people care about this. He might talk about it on the air.

    The DNC will never admit anything happened!

  220. skmf12 Says:
    June 9th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
    THIS IS WHAT OBAMA, THE DNC, AND ABUSIVE HUSBANDS
    HAVE IN COMMON:
    ….
    THIS IS WHAT OBAMA IS DOING TO HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
    i am disgusted that she is campaigning for him, in fact, i cannot
    believe she is allowing these people to do this to her.
    this is not a good precedent. women around the country
    are literally having fits as we speak because of this…
    and men around the country who are good chivalrous men, are
    blowing their gaskets over this.
    ….
    I AM MIND BLOWN AT HER RIGHT NOW. something is very wong,
    and we need to know why she does not see it…
    what a message this is giving to young women and little girls.
    on the same token, this is reinforcing in young men, that it works!
    WRONG! BAD! THIS IS BAD…
    ================================

    Damn right! It’s a very abusive situation. The woman is supposed to pretend in public that everythihg is fine — and to sacrifice the rest of her career to prop up the man who crippled her!

    h t t p : / / http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp — for Hillary supporters who do not want her trapped ironing Obama’s shirt

  221. Carby-there are a number of reasons not to believe anything this Noam Sheib prick says about Hillary.

    First, he has never met her, never interviewed her and most likely his information is hearsy or hearsy on hearsay and is therefor unreliable.

    Second, he is biased for dean.Four and a half years ago, Noam Scheiber wrote a cover story for
    The New Republic about Howard Dean’s great new political machine and how it was going to transform politics. He is a fucking bot lover.

    Third, the tone of his comments is so arrogant, condescending, maniulpulative and conclusory as to be downright stupid. He is a screed.

    Thomas Sowell taught me to never listen to people like him. But I fell off the wagon just for you.

  222. MOLLY-bonnie is back. She is a fair journalist–one of the few. As for obama he should get down on his knees and apologize to Hillary for his sexism and his racist attacks. But he is too damned arrogant to do the right thing.
    ———————————————-
    Obama and the Democrats Owe Hillary Clinton and Her Supporters a Formal Apology for the Campaign’s Sexism
    June 09, 2008 02:52 PM ET | Bonnie Erbe | Permanent Link

    Sen. Hillary Clinton may have come out full bore for the Barack Obama campaign on Saturday, but many of her supporters are having none of it.

    Check out this CNN video on YouTube, which sums up the palpable anger many of her supporters feel. Another must-see Web stop is Ed Hale’s site, hcsfjm.com. That is shorthand for Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain. Hale claims to have garnered 35,000 supporters within a week of launching the site.

    The Democratic National Committee either doesn’t get it or refuses to admit it. Nothing short of a lengthy, detailed mea culpa by the DNC and by Obama himself, directed to Clinton supporters for the sexist name-calling and personal, nasty characterizations Clinton was alone forced to endure, will do. Even that may not persuade these voters to consider supporting the party this fall. The DNC, Democratic Party leaders in Congress, and Obama should have been at her side, calling her treatment by the media (and even by some Obama supporters) unacceptable.

    According to most polls, something in the range of 20 to 25 percent of her 18 million supporters say they’ll vote for Senator McCain in November. That’s 4.5 million votes—too many to take for granted. Yet taking them for granted is just what the party and Obama are doing. When CNN’s Candy Crowley asked Obama how he would appeal to disaffected Clinton voters, he missed the mark entirely, giving a standard set of policy proposals.

    I appeared on one of the cable news networks over the weekend, paired with a political reporter from a major newspaper. We were asked whether her supporters would kiss and make up with the Obama camp and end up throwing their support to the Illinois senator in the general election. He said, dismissively, “yes.” I responded that with all due respect I thought he was quite wrong. But his laissez-faire attitude typifies that of the bulk of the MSM, the Democratic Party, and the Obama campaign.

    We won’t know how her supporters will vote until after the general election and its exit polls. Those who sit it out won’t even be counted in exit polls. My feeling is just as the MSM underestimated the reaction to anti-Clinton remarks would generate, and the DNC overestimated voters’ party loyalty, that no one has a clear read on what comes of all this. The party may have created a miniboom in Republican registration—disaffected Democrats who will never vote for a Democratic candidate again.

    There’s also the question no one is addressing: With Clinton’s absence in the race, middle-of-the-road voters have nowhere to go. McCain isn’t conservative enough as far as religious conservatives are concerned. But he’s seen as solidly conservative by everyone else and calls himself a conservative. Obama has the albatross of the National Journal’s rating as the No. 1 most liberal member of the U.S. Senate. Senator Clinton had come in 14th on that list, which puts her much closer to the middle of the road. Mainstream voters have three choices. They can hold their noses and vote for an extreme liberal or a fairly extreme conservative. They can sit it out, or they can write someone in.

    As one voter told me, “This is a ‘vote against’ election.” There’s no one for moderates to vote for

  223. To Bonnie Erbe —

    Apology my ass! You don’t abuse a woman by actions, real damage — then fix it all up with the ‘right kind’ of apology!

    The only thing Obama could do to help is — CONCEDE to Hillary and wait his turn in 2016!

  224. notice how bored the BM talking pukes are w/o our girl to kick around? may they turn their collective boredom to action and begin the true vetting of this empty suit currently seen as the new messiah.

  225. Money donated and used does not convert to votes. However, it is usefuly in purchasing SDs.

    So I guess they will use the money to purchase Electorial College votes. I wonder how they do that.

    Soon we will see Republicans in Red states converting.

    Money talks with Politicians.

    Just some spurious thoughts.

  226. NewMexicoFan,

    in primary, he has money. he has big media to help him, he has SDs and DNC in tank with him. yet he barely win.
    I believe he will loose landslide in GE even though he has tons of money. money can not change the fact that he is empty, unamerican, radical leftiest.

  227. meiyingsu

    First, he did not win the popular vote, and the SDs were bribed, and we must stop saying won, and continue to state what really happened. He stole this nomination.

    Crowds don’t mean much either. It is the ability to get out the vote, and how the Republicans zero in on talking to voters. They match people of like interest and values. They also keep track of the absentee ballots and make sure they get returned.

    I hope the Republican machine works it magic.

    So you and I agree, if the Republican machine works its magic, the GE will NOT go as planned by BHO, DNC, and CNN/MSNBC.

    It would be nice to see a few of them lose their jobs.

  228. NMFan,

    “the SDs were bribed”

    Yup, follow the payoffs, like this one we see already;

    “Pelosi backs Emanuel for senator from Ill.”

    Charlie Rangel – who was pivotal for the other side to convert – will almost undoubtedly hold onto the chairmanship of Ways & Means.

    Then Rangel tries to play this cute game whereby now he’s going to be Hill’s strongest advocate for VP. Go fuck yourself!

  229. Blue Democrat

    I could not have said it better myself. I am not even willing to pull McCain, and then the Dems in my state. I think I am pulling straight Rep.

  230. Good Morning!

    I was looking at Larry Sinclair site this morning. At first I did not take him seriously, now, I see on his site with today’s date, a picture of hima and Obama in a car. Is this for real?, should I now think this man seriously? and what should I make of the June 18th confrence at the National Press Club?? Anyone who has a though on this man, and his issuees he is raising, give me your thoughts!! I just find this very intresting now. Thanks !

  231. It would be nice to have a list of all the SDs who supported Hillary and are up for re-election in Nov. so we can support them.

  232. I am sorry… The picture I mention in post at 9:33 should have stated the date of the picture is yesterday.

  233. JAS,

    That’s not a real photo. BO holding what appears to be a crack pipe with his arm around Sinclair would probably be the giveaway.

    They’re trying to sum up their ‘story’, but people should refrain from that type of thing if they want to be taken seriously.

    OandrewD,

    Yeah, and vice versa.

  234. Those $100M investors should look at the results from past history. I guess they are the O people who don’t look at his resume either, and how he has voted.

    I guess the $100M investors are voting for shoving it down our throats, not results. Has anyone told them there are no caucuses? Oh well, I guess they are voting for stealing the vote.

  235. Oh man! I missed all the action with Sandy-bot. That’s what happens when you try to avoid all things politics to maintain your sanity.

    So let me sum it up:
    Sandybot’s greatest hits:

    I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HILLARY WANTS ME TO
    You are all disloyal to her if you don’t.
    I AM GAY AND SO IS MY LIFE PARTNER (no kidding! Both of you are gay?)
    Sonia, how is my fellow troll today?
    I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HILLARY WANTS ME TO
    I support Hillary, damnit! I have been on this site longer than most of you (nevermind that I didn’t post here for the last 3 crucial months of the campaign and no one here knows who the hell I am)
    I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HILLAR WANTS ME TO

    Okay, did I miss anything?

    Oh Sandy! Come out, come out wherever you are. I want to play with you.

  236. Clinton urges her delegates to back Obama

    By Anthony Watt, awatt@qconline.com

    Hillary Clinton on Monday asked Democratic primary delegates who would have supported her in her presidential bid to back her former rival Barack Obama.

    The request came in a Monday night teleconference, said Virgil J. Mayberry, a Rock Island County Board member and one of Sen. Clinton’s delegates.

    Sen. Clinton threw her support behind Sen. Obama Saturday after suspending her campaign.

    “She wants us to unite behind Obama and help him,” said Mr. Mayberry, who chairs his party’s minority caucus on the county board.

    Mr. Mayberry said Sen. Clinton talked for about five minutes to Democratic national convention delegates from all over the country. She appeared upbeat, he said.

    “Over the phone, she seemed jovial,” he said. “I can’t say happy-happy, but she was talking to her people.”

    According to Mr. Mayberry, she also thanked the delegates for their support and said she planned on continuing to pursue health care as a major issue for the party during the upcoming campaign.

    But Sen. Clinton would not discuss her intentions toward the vice president’s position on Sen. Obama’s ticket, he said.

    Mr. Mayberry, a Democrat, said he plans to honor Sen. Clinton’s request.

  237. BTW guys, TM has become exactly what many of us have predicted. ‘Tis a lonely path we on Hillaryis44 are about to undertake.

  238. The rumor mill is in full swing. About the delegates, from a poster at TM:

    I am a National Delegate for Clinton from Texas. I was on the conference call. Delegates were NOT released. We were told the same thing YOU ALL were told on Saturday. That she endorsed and would work for Obama.

    To use the term “released” is not accurate. She and Harold Ickes asked that we hold together because of health care issues Hillary wants on the democrat platform.

    By the Way: ALL pledged delegates can vote their conscience at Denver. EVEN BO Pledged delegates can switch at Denver.

  239. birdgal, what difference does it make if delegates are released or not. If BO is now the party’s nominee, does he still need HRC’s delegates?

  240. See The Confluence, for a more cogent discussion of the delegate situation. She did not release her delegates.

  241. Apparently Bambi is holding a hastily arranged press conference at 10.45, apparently its an emergency one, someone else going under the bus? Jim Johnson perhaps?

  242. moon, could it be that he wants to announce his fundraising record in June?

    I’ve been out of the loop for a few days now I don’t know what the hell is going on in politics.

  243. In what way, shape, or form would a single apology cover the nasty smearing, behind the scenes crass manipulations, over the top sexism/racist cards, and finger-pointing at the Clintons that played over and over again in the last year and a half?

    The DNC wet their pants trying to protect Obama from any comment that they felt hurt their little baby. They remained criminally silent when it came to providing the same support towards Hillary Clinton, in fact probably instigated much of it from their ego-filled perch.

    An apology won’t cut it. It’s a start, but the whole idea of having to apologize for their outrageous actions is too little too late. These wolves in sheep’s clothing have shown their true colours and it isn’t pretty. They are forever tarnished by their refusal to play fair and support both candidates instead of their so-called wunderkind!

  244. Electoral Map Could Be Similar to 2000, 2004
    Despite suggestions that there will be different swing states this year, Stuart Rothenberg says “don’t expect the 2008 presidential map to look wildly different from those of 2000 and 2004.”

    “Barring a full-scale McCain meltdown or the public’s wholesale rejection of the GOP (neither of which can be ruled out), only a handful of states are prime candidates to swing from their traditional partisan bent in recent presidential elections.”

    “Increased turnout by black and young voters could improve Obama’s showings in some states, as could his appeal among upscale whites. But those gains aren’t likely to be large enough to flip many states, and so far there is no evidence that red states in the Deep South are potentially winnable for Obama because of their large black population.”

  245. moonpluto, I’ve come to realize — after Rezko, Wright, Phflagher (sp), Michelle, Plagiarism, drug-use — that perhaps Obama is teflon. He has something that no other candidate had: the press squarely on his side.

    No matter what the shit is, the media will shield their Golden Boy.

    I wouldn’t get too excited.

  246. filbertsf,

    after labor day, when all the gop 527 groups start running ads, we will know whether those “Rezko, Wright, Phflagher (sp), Michelle, Plagiarism, drug-use ” have impact in voters’ mind.

  247. The people of this Great Nation is not as gulible and pliable as the media thinks we are.

    I don’t TRUST Obambi and his WORD doesn’t carry any weight behind it. Obama will lie to your face in a second to get what he wants and then shoot you in the back after shaking your hand.

  248. I could be wrong, but I think Hillary is discovering something new. I think that she is discovering the nuance of her candidacy. She can’t really deliver her voters and delegates because we are not hers. She is ours. She is our Representative. I’m not sure that there has ever been a candidate who has ever been in the position to truly appreciate what that means.

    Perhaps the phenomenon has happened on a small scale, but Presidential Politics up to this point has always been run in a leader/follower dynamic. We look to her for guidance and for the benefit of her vast knowledge and experience; she in turn listens to us and speaks for our desires and principles. I think this is what allows her to withstand the assaults that are being flung at her. No matter what TPTB try to do to her or force her to say or do, her supporters support her and she can always return to her base for the strength that she needs to go on.

    I don’t believe for a second that Mr. Mayberry from the article cited above ever had the intention of walking with Hillary through the fire and that is his loss.

    Bless her heart, Hillary did not believe that the Shrub would abuse the power of the AUMF; she probably doesn’t believe that Obama and friends will not do worse damage to the country than the current administration. I disagree with her. I am more afraid of the people who ran this primary gaining the power of the Unitary Executive, more than I am of the particular Republican who is running for POTUS.

  249. Contacted several Hillary support groups in MA, especially Boston, to ask what we can do for Hillary – their answer was to sit tight – they are still strongly for her and are waiting to take their cues from her.

    Most people I talked to are resolved to vote McCain if she doesn’t by some miracle get the nomination.

    As for the petition asking her not to take the VP slot if it’s offered, I can’t go with that because I am sure she knows better than I what her course of action should be. Hill and Bill have a lot more political savvy than any of us, and I trust them completely.

    Re delegates, check out Confluence.

  250. So glad to have you guys around. You guys make the world normal again.

    Hillary has to do her thing. She’s a sitting Dem Senator and she has to make nice. That’s just what being a team player means and I don’t fault her for it.

    However, we have to do our thing… independent of what she “wants.” (wink, wink on the “want”)

    I’m following Plural’s lead and not changing my party affiliation. I want to be a pissed-off Democrat who votes Republican, not some independent who votes for McCain.

    I’ve been telling fellow Hillary supporters to not stay home, vote “uncommitted,” or change their party.

    Staying home or writing-in is essentially a vote for Bambi. I want nothing more than to see BM’s Golden Boy get crushed in the GE.

  251. The Lose o crats hooked their tail to the “Messian”;
    they will have to win it without me.

    May 22, 2008 – McCain Leads Obama In Two Of Three Key Swing States, Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds; Clinton Has Big Leads In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania — FLORIDA: Clinton 48 – McCain 41; McCain 45 – Obama 41; OHIO: Clinton 48 – McCain 41; McCain 44 – Obama 40: PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 50 – McCain 37; Obama 46 – McCain 40

    Word format

    Plagued by a defection of Clinton supporters and white working class voters, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the leading Democratic presidential contender, trails Arizona Sen. John McCain, the likely Republican candidate, in Florida and Ohio, according to simultaneous Quinnipiac University Swing State polls released today. Sen. Obama is six points ahead in Pennsylvania. New York Sen. Clinton wins handily in all three states. No one has been elected President since 1960 without taking two of these three largest swing states in the Electoral College. Results from the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University polls show:
    Florida: Clinton tops McCain 48 – 41 percent; McCain leads Obama 45 – 41 percent;
    Ohio: Clinton beats McCain 48 – 41 percent; McCain tops Obama 44 – 40 percent;
    Pennsylvania: Clinton tops McCain 50 – 37 percent; Obama leads McCain 46 – 40 percent.

    The DNC has moronic political intelligence.
    Hillary would have won this election going away.

  252. Ed O’Reilly, Sen. Kerry’s challenger
    video
    http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/Ed-OReilly-Sen-Kerrys-challenger/1213058709.html

    (Jim Braude, NECN) – With democrats holding their convention in Lowell, Massachusetts, attorney Ed O’Reilly’s bid to get on the primary ballot as a challenger to senator John Kerry was rated a long-shot at best.

    To the surprise of many, O’Reilly handily met the 15 percent Requirement … In fact; he got 22 percent of the vote.

    He wasted in no time in taking the fight to senator Kerry. Now Jim Braude has some questions for Ed O’Reilly. For example, would Senator Kerry’s time be better spent campaigning for Obama?

    Ed O’Reilly is an attorney from Gloucester and a former firefighter.
    *****************************************************
    If you get a chance please view the video and watch the host shock expression that Sen. Kerry has competition.

  253. OBAMA’S BROWN SHIRT FORCES:
    noquarter continues to bring it:

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/the-truth-about-senator-clintons-speech/

    Here’s the text for your convenience:

    &&&&
    I received this email from a Hillary Supporter that I know well. Not exactly what the MSM would have you believe.

    Hello to all HRC Supporters,

    Don’t believe the hype…Catherine G. and I (Elaine K.), were present at the sobering speech delivered by Presidential Candidate and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC), on Saturday, June 7 in Washington D.C. By now I’m sure you have watched, read, and have seen some photos/video from the event.

    Let us share with you the things the media didn’t/ won’t convey and some interesting observations of it all:

    – The Obama (BHO), camp flooded the room with his supporters.

    -The BHO supporters were in full throttle and exuberantly applauded at every chance for him. This was not only a disrespect to steal her momentum, but also down play any angst her supporters were feeling during this most sombering of occasions.

    – None of the DNC leadership members were present, most notably, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi (how’s that for respect and party unity)?

    -Obviously overtaken with emotions of the occasion, Dorothy Rodham (Senator Clinton’s mother) and Bill Clinton wept.

    – BHO not only did not watch the event, a true show of disregard…and would later “claimed” to have watched it on the Internet.

    – HRC Supporters reactions varied from bewilderment, sadness, resolve, disappointment and anger. All in all it was a most sombering of events. The mood afterwards was most a feeling of the aftermath of a funeral. (An excruciating murder by the DNC and BHO).

    Draw your own conclusions.

  254. I have a complaint about NoQuarter. Their headlines are always more sensational than the actual story. Larry has the penchant for making something out of nothing.

    Recently, it was the “whitey” tape — he said he had something scandalous to report on Monday… blah, blah…blah… Monday comes and the story is about what he’s heard from a 3rd party.

  255. filbertsf, Larry never said he had something scandalous to report that Monday. Just new developments.

  256. Here’s anglchel’s latest blog entry. Excellent, as usual. A must read.

    Whatever the benefits of a Democrat in the White House, this campaign is the furthest thing from a radical repudiation of what has become of the mainstream media I can imagine. A significant portion of the Left has wholly adopted not just the tactics but also the frames and content of the Right against itself.

    The most radical part of the netroots has been its claim to oppose the media, both the right wing noise machine and the increasingly co-opted mainstream media. The Left was finally gaining the same critical distance from the major media as the Right had adopted years before, and with the advent of the Internet was also able to self-publish their alternative perspectives in a cost effective manner. This had always been a disadvantage vis-à-vis the Right because, until the Web, dissemination of information had been the difficulty. Now, anyone with access to a terminal at a public library and a willingness to experiment with these things called “blogs” could let their opinions be heard. I remember the thrill of discovering new blogs with great voices. Daily Howler and Media Whores Online were the cornerstones. On an old LJ page, I can still see other finds – Altercation, TPM, Opinions You Should Have, Common Dreams, Truthout. There still is no replacement for Bilmon and Whiskey Bar.

    Looking back, there is a trajectory of the A list blogs starting in and around the advent of the Iraq War, rising to critical mass with the 2004 elections, hitting a golden period between 2004 and 2006, then starting to tilt away from “documenting the atrocities” to becoming participants in it. I really think the high point of the blogger influence has to be the battle against Bush’s attempt to privatize Social Security, led by Josh Marshall. Since the 2006 Yearly Kos, however, anyone paying attention has been able to see where the big-name blogs were headed, and wasn’t to stay in opposition to the MSM.

    One question that no one in the MSM or the “serious” blogosphere has tried to answer is why have so many hard-core Democrats, people in the party for decades, rallied so strongly to Hillary’s side, their support becoming stronger and more obdurate the more she was declared a failed candidate? In most political races, the perception of being a winner or a loser will usually sway the voters, emphasizing the upside – like Obama’s big bump after Iowa – or reinforcing the downside – like Edwards never recovering after losing in Iowa. Hillary’s support increased the more it was accepted by the media that she had already lost. Take this phenomenon seriously because it did happen. When else have we seen this pattern in the rank and file? When Bill was under impeachment. The regular Democrats evidently know when someone is being railroaded by the media and they push back.

    The press did to her what it did to Al Gore in 2000, inventing faux scandals and alleging words and behaviors that never happened. The epistemological status of the “stories” spread in the news is exactly zero – they have no real, rational basis. It is interpretation based on flimsy (if any) evidence. It simply did not exist. The difference between the rightwing hunting of the president in the 90s and the wilding of Gore in 2000 is this time the allegedly opposition blogosphere and “left” media fell all over itself to lap up the sewage flowing out of the same sources that have been brutalizing the Democratic Party, the left, liberalism and, frankly, democracy, since Reagan’s ascendency in 1980. They have picked up the crap, eager gobbled it down, and have fully incorporated it into their perspectives, rhetorical methods, and standards of evidence.

    The liberal opposition has disappeared, all too eager to do the Right’s work for it.

    Why else is there no conception or acknowledgement that there is a crisis of legitimacy at the core of the Democratic Party right now? As long as the loser is a Clinton, who the hell cares? appears to be the rejoinder. Even today, in blogs, online magazines, print newspapers and TV shows that ostensibly have a liberal bent, the news of the day is how can be finally be rid of that bitch. That she exists at all is an affront to their sense of how the world should be – and that comes right out of Scaife’s Arkansas Project.

    So many of us who remember the 90s sit here, aghast, and watch the wholesale incorporation of the 90s rightwing narrative by the alleged left. Every last line of bullshit, right down to drug dealing in Arkansas and who killed Vince Foster. If this were a movie, it would be a comedy by Terry Gilliam, or maybe the Cohen brothers, one with a knife edge doing the tickling, and too many innocents destroyed. Why are these fiery liberal spirits so swift to join in the rightwing assault on their own side?

    Part of the reason in the blogosphere is simply careerism. Josh Marshall, Matt Yglesias, Young Ezra, etc., are simply trying to jump in and get their careers going. I’ve written that up before. Bob Somerby does an even better job of this, documenting the eagerness of these Boyz to be agreeable and acceptable to the people who can pay their bills and give them celebrity. And thus you have WKJM shilling for a candidate whose chief economic advisor is comfortable with privatizing Social Security. I think that pretty much explains where Josh’s commitment to the left starts and ends. When WKJM is willingly taking his stories directly from Matt Drudge, where exactly is the line between the rightwing noise machine and the opposition?

    But what of the people who aren’t careerists, at least in that way? Intra-party fighting can only explain so much, because there are some attack modes that they won’t jump into. There is something to it being class based, as I’ve discussed before and will continue to evaluate – a smug sense that somehow prejudice against lower class whites is justified, and thus you shouldn’t defend those kinds of people. It’s also not a mistake that the bulk of the people gulping this sewage are white and male. It would appear that the upper class white males of the Democratic Party have more in common with the upper class white male Republicans than they care to admit. It is not a mistake, I think, that the people on the left who responded best to the anti-Clinton spew of this round are socio-economically similar to those on the Right who share their taste in Drudge and sludge.

    There was a time in the 90s and the early Uh-ohs that the left understood that the MSM had gone off the rails. The era of Murrow, Cronkite, Brinkley and Huntley (describing contrapuntally), John Chancellor, and other luminaries of post-war reportage was over, we knew it, and we knew that FOX was the enemy. It is a sad day when a lefty turns to FOX for news because at least you know the score with them. I remember the 1996 Republican convention (yes, I was there, it was in San Diego and I worked a booth there) when we were all giggling in anticipation of Pat Buchanan going off like a freak on national TV during prime time. It is weird now to think Pat Buchanan is the most sensible, rational person on the stage. Now, the more the media behaves in a way specifically designed to delegitimize our candidates, the more the left accepts and repeats what it hears. Bob Somerby and Paul Krugman are nearly alone in their insistence on telling the truth.

    A few days ago I wrote up my disgust about the willingness of some people to go along with what seems a very clear ratfucking operation by the Republicans involving a tasty mix of misogyny, racism and anti-Muslim sentiments. What I also want to make clear is that should this particular attack continue – and it will – and should others of this kind surface and gain traction against Obama, then that part of the left that eagerly embraced a reprise of the MSM assault on the Clinton White House and the Gore presidential run have no ground to stand on. You whored your brains, your logic and your leftist credentials out to the bottom feeders of the right to try to gain a little advantage for your candidate and in the doing you have undermined him and every Democrat running for national office. You cried ”Yes, yes!” to painting millions of Americans as racists, you turned a blind eye to grotesque misogyny, you prostituted the corpse of a dead man to spread a lie, you eagerly defended nullifying votes of people in Michigan and denying full representation to Florida to rig the vote for your candidate, you continue to threaten to riot if anyone denies you what you want.

    Here’s a little secret. If Obama has run an aboveboard campaign, if the Democratic Party leadership hauled off and slapped Chris Matthews et. al. silly for their Clinton Derangement Syndrome, had the Blogger Boyz been able to argue for their candidate without getting scoops from Matt Drudge, the chances are very good that he might have won in a squeaker. And then he would be poised to put together a Unity ticket, because the other candidate would not have been declared a monster and her supporters would, after the usual grumbling, have willingly thrown full support behind the ticket. At worst, he would have been second by a nose, and everyone would have been very happy to give him the VP slot.

    Whatever one can say of Hillary, she was not and never has been the beneficiary of the rightwing noise machine. Obama has benefitted from the cooptation of the MSM and now the willing capitulation of the opposition netroots to that operation, behaving like extensions of Drudge, Scaife and Murdoch. If you support Obama, you are all right with that.

    Well, are you?

  257. Paula, it’s not just that white tape, it’s other things, too. It’s just when you repeatedly do something like that, it makes the important things less important.

    The only article I read over there are from Susan. That woman can write like it’s no one’s business.

  258. Barack Obama sets up internet ‘war room’ to fight slurs
    Internet ‘war room’ will rebuff false rumours

    Tim Reid in Washington
    A crack team of cybernauts will form a rapid response internet “war room” to track and respond aggressively to online rumours that Barack Obama is unpatriotic and a Muslim.

    As he gears up for his general election fight against John McCain, Mr Obama and his chief advisers are aware of the danger of such rumours, amid polling data showing that a significant number of Americans believe he is a Muslim or are suspicious about his background. Such doubts were a factor in his poor showing with white, blue-collar voters during his primary battle with Hillary Clinton.

    In recent days Mr Obama has — unprompted — brought up the subject of the chain e-mails and blog sites making the false claims. Some state that he is a radical Muslim who was sworn in as a US senator on the Koran; others that he sympathises with Palestinian radicals. Many focus on his middle name of Hussein, which was taken from his Kenyan father.

    Mr Obama referred to the e-mails in a speech last week to AIPAC, the powerful Jewish lobby.

    Mr Obama said: “They are filled with tall tales and dire warnings about a certain candidate for president and all I want to say is, ‘Let me know if you see this guy named Barack Obama because he sounds pretty scary’.”

    Jen Psaki, a spokeswomen for Mr Obama, told The Times that the internet team was still being finalised.

    She added: “The only way to run a campaign is to respond immediately when inaccurate information is put out. The [the e-mails] are saying he’s a Muslim. He’s not.

    “He’s a Christian. He often brings up the e-mails that are out there and the smear campaign that’s been run against him on the internet.”

    The “war room” comes as the Obama campaign prepares a series of biographical speeches, television advertisements and campaign appearances to tell his life story, an attempt to make voters more familiar with him. Despite his long nomination fight against Mrs Clinton, his campaign aides concede that millions of Americans still feel that they do not really know him.

    Mr Obama’s Kenyan father, who left the family when he was 2, was a Muslim, but not particularly religious. The Illinois senator lived in Indonesia from the age of 6 until 10 with his white, American mother and Indonesian stepfather, who was a Muslim.

    Mr Obama has never been a Muslim, or worshipped at a mosque. He moved from being agnostic to finding Christ in his 20s, with the help of his former Chicago pastor: the Rev Jeremiah Wright, a figure whose incendiary sermons now haunt his candidacy and has increased suspicions among some voters about his patriotism.

    A poll in mid-March found that 13 per cent of Americans think that Mr Obama is a Muslim — a 5 per cent increase since December 2007. Another found that 23 per cent of Democrats who hold negative views of him believe that he is a Muslim. The same survey showed that 61 per cent of voters view him as patriotic, compared with 76 per cent for Mrs Clinton and 90 per cent for Mr McCain.

    Senior aides to Mr Obama have opened talks with the Clinton camp to discuss pooling their formidable fundraising talent. Between them the two Democrats raised nearly $500 million (£254 million) during their nomination fight.

    David Plouffe, Mr Obama’s campaign manager, is due to give a presentation to some of Mrs Clinton’s top fundraisers in New York on Thursday.

    In recent weeks Mr Obama has also pinned an American flag badge to his suit lapel after being criticised by Republicans for not wearing one.

    He locked horns with Mr McCain yesterday over the faltering economy, the number one issue with voters, as the Democrat started a 17-day economics tour with a speech in North Carolina lambasting the Republican over his support for the fiscal policies of President Bush.

    The Arizona senator pre-empted his rival’s address by painting him as a liberal tax-and-spender.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4100170.ece

  259. Wonder if the GOP will try to define Waffles before his campaign gets around to it. That’s what they’re usually good at. It’s Rove’s MO.

  260. I don’t like Dick Morris at all. however, his prediction is interesting to read.

    Morris’s prediction

    Dick Morris takes a break from warning America that Hillary will be back to write a lucid column on Obama’s narrative challenge, and offers this prediction:

    I doubt that this election will be close. Either Obama or McCain will probably win it in a landslide, depending on whether or not Obama can fulfill his existential mission of explaining to the American people who he really is.

    It’s an interesting prediction, and it gets at something neither the McCain nor Obama camps have seemed able to crack, though both in their ways have tried: This election seems to be all about Obama, with McCain winning or losing as a default.

  261. McCain says Obama policies are bad for business

    WASHINGTON – John McCain said Democratic rival Barack Obama is bad for business in a speech to small business owners. McCain said Tuesday that Obama’s policies would mean higher taxes and higher overhead costs. The Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting also criticized Obama for pledging to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    McCain said small businesses make the economy run and that his Democratic rival would slow the creation of new jobs.

    “You work hard in small businesses to grow and create new jobs and opportunities for others,” McCain said. “The federal government shouldn’t make your work any harder.”

    Economic issues have taken center stage in the early presidential race. Obama argues that McCain’s policies are no different from those of President Bush, and he blames those policies for the slumping economy.

    Obama has pledged to end the Bush administration’s tax cuts for upper-income workers and has called for new taxes on oil companies and wealthy individuals, along with $1,000 tax cuts for the middle class tax.

    McCain said small businesses would bear the brunt of the tax increases proposed by Obama. McCain called for phasing out the alternative minimum tax and allowing businesses to write off some new investments.

    “I don’t want to send any more of your earnings to the government,” the Arizona senator said.

    McCain, who was introduced by eBay Inc. CEO Meg Whitman, was briefly interrupted by protesters who yelled that war is bad for small business. The protesters were booed, and McCain used the interruptions to call for a civil debate in the campaign.

    http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2008/06/10/ap/headlines/d9178qf81.txt

  262. So Morris warned that Hillary will be back? I bet he’s right on that one. 🙂

    BTW, Here’s the latest from HillBuzz on the meanness and utter classlessness of Waffles’ supporters:

    Some Observations From the Ground Here In Chicago

    It seems everyone on the blogs is talking about this, but the mainstream media doesn’t get it.

    The hatred the Obama supporters still inflict on Hillary Clinton and her camp is unlike anything we have ever seen in the Democratic Party. These people are the absolute worst winners in history. Today, in the Chicago Tribune, every editorial cartoon was some variation of the same gruesome theme: Hillary Clinton as hideous monster, slain by Obama in shining white armor; Clinton buried in a cemetary, yet still making her case, while Obama and the press dance on her political grave; Clinton chopped into pieces but still trying to pull herself back together and continue her fight.

    In Washington a few weeks back, we ran into a political reporter who was collecting cartoons depicting this primary battle, for a book he is writing, and even he thought nothing was wrong with imagery like this. We’re not experts on political cartoons, but even going all the way back to Thomas Nast, we’d imagine you’d be hard-pressed to find routine depictions of one political candidate murdering another, in the most juvenile and cliche terms possible. Obama the dragon-slayer? Please. That’s as imaginative as the guy who keeps drawing her as the Wicked Witch of the West, doused with water, but still campaigning (and, by the way, that’s Elphaba to you, sir).

    Today we ran into several people who know of our strong and unending support of Hillary Clinton. All are Obama supporters, and all made quite a show of coming up to us, in public settings, and loudly gloating that, and we quote, “the bitch is finally done!”. “Your girl lost. ‘Bout time.” “Poor Hillary just couldn’t cut it.”

    One guy, a 27-year old we’ve never seen without an iPod in his ears and a Starbucks in his hand (straight out of central casting, this one), actually sang “Ding dong, the witch is dead…which old witch? The Clinton witch.” And he was off-key to boot.

    Here’s the thing: we’re grown ups. We know how to behave in the face of adolescence like this: we replied with our stock line of “Thank you for your opinion”. When asked what we will do going forward, since we have spent every night and every weekend on this campaign since May of 2007, we answer honestly that we will continue to support Hillary Clinton in any way we can, with anything she needs. That’s still being sorting out, because we are all in uncharted territory here, but it’s an army of supporters that has not disbanded, but is encamped in winter quarters, waiting to fight for our champion, our hero, our HEROINE, again.

    The media has focused on Obama’s rise out of nowhere as the great political story of 2008 — but we have a feeling history will judge this differently. 2008 was the year 18 million people stood tall and proud with Hillary Clinton. This was the year she really did find her voice — the year a great president was made, and the year her supporters connected for the first time, across this great nation, and started on a journey with her that will lead to the White House. The media won, it seems. They have their candidate, and the DNC is pleased with itself.

    But, unlike in 2004 when we supported John Edwards but settled for Kerry, or in 1988 when we rooted for Jackson but got stuck with Dukakis, or in 1980 when we dared to dream Kennedy could unseat Carter and keep Reagan out of the White House, it doesn’t feel right to just fall in line and do whatever the DNC tells us to do.

    Not only were the media, the Obama campaign, Obama supporters, and Obama himself cruel and vindictive to both Clinton and her supporters during the primary season, but they remain antagonistic to us now. Clinton’s campaign is suspended. They won. So, why keep hammering us?

    This has a lot to do with the direction Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Brazile and others want to take the Democratic Party. That obnoxious guy with the ubiquitous iPod and Starbucks, the one who likes whatever new band his friends tell him to like and leaves every job he has after a year because he thinks there’s always something better around the corner, THAT GUY, is who the Democratic Party wants to be — instead of the hardworking, blue collar, religious, FDR Democrat the party has always been. This is madness….because, frankly, guys like THAT GUY may flirt Democratic in their 20s and into their 30s, but these are the guys who ultimately grow up, put away the iPod, and become Republican somewhere on a golf course while chasing partner in their 40s.

    So, Dean et al allowed these young turks to bully and berate the Clinton crowd in the name of Obama….and to allow the misogyny to continue now. And none of these fools see the crash coming, when on election day they’ll realize that all that bullying and berating they did for almost two years accomplished one, and only one thing: it elected John McCain the 44th President of the United States.

  263. STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF HOW OBAMA THROWS AWAY the GE (AND HOW HRC WINS)

    From Friday’s NY Times:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/opinion/06tyson.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    Op-Ed Contributor
    Vote by Numbers By NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON
    Published: June 6, 2008

    IT appears that Hillary Clinton is going to suspend her presidential campaign this weekend, at the urging of Democratic Party leaders and superdelegates. Before that happens, Mrs. Clinton and the superdelegates might want to know this: if the general election were held today, Barack Obama would lose to John McCain, while Mr. McCain would lose to Mrs. Clinton.

    This conclusion comes not from wishful thinking but from a new method of analysis on the statistics of polls that has been accepted for publication in the journal Mathematical and Computer Modeling. The authors, J. Richard Gott III, a professor at Princeton, and Wes Colley, a researcher at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, are not political scientists. They are astrophysicists. And one of the tasks of scientists is to clarify the apparent complexity of the universe by using the language of mathematics.

    Here’s what they discovered: in swing states, the median result of all the polls conducted in the weeks prior to an election is an especially effective predictor of which candidate will win that election — even in states where the polls consistently fall within the margin of error.

    This method provides a far more accurate assessment of public opinion than most people’s politically informed commentary. In the 2004 presidential election between John Kerry and George W. Bush, many political analysts said the race was too close to call. But when Professor Gott and Dr. Colley applied the median method in 2004, they correctly predicted the winner in 49 states, missing only Hawaii.

    That remarkable success left me wondering what result this method would give if I applied it to the 2008 presidential race. So I examined the past six weeks of polls, taken in 19 important states, that separately pitted Mrs. Clinton against Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama against Mr. McCain. The polls were compiled by realclearpolitics.com and include states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.

    I followed the simple rules established by Professor Gott and Dr. Colley: in states in which a poll has not been taken, you give that state to the party that won it in 2004. You do the same for states where the median poll is a tie.

    In 2004, Mr. Kerry won 251 electoral votes, 19 shy of the 270 that would have won him the election. Which states among those that had gone to President Bush would today swing only to Mr. Obama, or only to Mrs. Clinton? And which of Mr. Kerry’s states would swing away from only Mr. Obama or only Mrs. Clinton? All this, of course, is based on current polls.

    In Ohio, for example, Mr. McCain beats Mr. Obama two polls to one. But Mrs. Clinton beats Mr. McCain two polls to nothing. So Ohio, which Mr. Kerry did not win in 2004, would go into Mrs. Clinton’s column, giving her an additional 20 electoral votes.

    In Florida, Mr. McCain beats Mr. Obama three polls to zero. But Mrs. Clinton shuts out Mr. McCain two to zero. Because Florida went to President Bush four years ago, Mrs. Clinton grabs 27 more electoral votes.

    In Michigan, Mr. McCain beats Mr. Obama three polls to zero. But the median poll between Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton is a tie. Mr. Kerry won Michigan in 2004, so Mrs. Clinton gets to keep it. But Mr. Obama loses its 17 electoral votes.

    When you complete this exercise for each state, Mr. Obama picks up Colorado, Iowa and New Mexico, three states that went Republican in 2004, but he also loses Michigan and New Hampshire, two states that Mr. Kerry had won. Mrs. Clinton loses the previously Democratic states of New Hampshire and Wisconsin, but she would nab 57 electoral votes from the Republicans by winning Florida, New Mexico, Nevada and Ohio.

    If the general election were held today, Mr. Obama would win 252 electoral votes as the Democratic nominee, while Mrs. Clinton would win 295. In other words, Barack Obama is losing to John McCain, and Hillary Clinton is beating him.

    This analysis does not predict what will happen in November. But it describes the present better than any other known method does.

    Poll results can shift, as Mrs. Clinton learned over the past year. The conventions held by both parties usually give candidates a bounce in the polls. Heavy campaigning in close states can swing the sentiments of undecided people. And political gaffes can turn voters away from one candidate and toward another. But these effects would show up monthly in the polls and be duly tracked by this method. The important point is that right now, Mrs. Clinton is ahead of Mr. McCain, and Mr. Obama is behind him.

    Two questions arise in the face of this result. Whom should the Republican candidate prefer to run against to maximize his party’s chances of retaining the White House? And what does it say of the Democratic delegate selection system when its winner would lose the presidency if an election were held today, yet its loser would win it?

    The median method has gotten us this far. The political analysts need to take it from here.

    Neil deGrasse Tyson, an astrophysicist and the author of “Death by Black Hole and Other Cosmic Quandaries,” is the host of “Nova scienceNOW.”

  264. REZKO WATCH today about the bonafide Psychological Warfare being staged by the Obamabots.

    BHO promotes his thugs to infiltrate the blogosphere, however this takes it a step further. There is an orchestrated, all-out frontal attack on his opponents by using the psychological warfare tactics to elicit knee-jerk responses and self-doubt so that we all “line up” as the Big Media Obamarobots have dictated.

    BHO has created a “war room” to shoot down all rumors, just in time for Larry Sinclair on his National Press CLub outing scheduled for June 18, 2008. Wish HRC supporters would give him the time of day. WHY NOT?

    Starting to feel like a bad ride at Epcot Disney World without any of the fun part. MIND CONTROL. That is the tactics employed by HITLER, folks. When the government orders automakers to only make cars that get 50-100 mpg, wonder if they will all be (Hitler-created) volkswagens, the vehicle begun to reward those citizens who were agreeable and filled up their books with stamps for good behavior?

    Heard about the push to fingerprint all citizens for a data base? BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING. Just took 28 years past 1984 to get there. Next, our tax dollars ear-marked to literally fund global efforts, not U.S. programs. When MO says, “Barack won’t let you…he will demand that you…we aren’t going to be able to do…” -she means it, people. We are staring a dictator in the face everytime you flip to MSNBC or CNN.

    While his Obamarobots continue their ongoing season of American? Idol, we HRC Democratic stalwarts continue our ongoing season of Flip That House.

    WE WILL NOT BE BAMBOOZLED. WE WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED. WE WILL NOT BE OKEYDOKED.

    WE PRINCIPLED DEMOCRATS WILL CONTROL OUR OWN MINDS.

    WE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT COMING HOME.

  265. McCain is smart by focusing on small business against Obama’s rant on the economy. Obama has ZERO background on bring and building economic opportunity to Chicago or even his 8th ward that he represented.

    I know this personally as my late husband was from Chicago and from that ward and his mother STILL live in the 8th ward. Crime gone wild, small businesses dying the area except around Hyde Park and South Shore Drive have deteriated and unemployment is high in that area.

    The public school system is PATHETIC with rampant gang violence and a high drop out rate. My husband went back in 2006 and was surprise and the condition of Stony Island death of small businesses.

    So we have a nominee who has NEVER grew business in his OWN WARD but has high TAXES, with a pack of cigerettes $9.00, and taxes on everything and anything and cutbacks on city services.

    Hillary Clinton has proven she understand what it takes to get the country on the right track on the economy.

  266. Obama Rejects Criticism Over Adviser’s Ties to Home Lender

    Barack Obama defended one of the men vetting his running-mate prospects Tuesday after the adviser came under fire for receiving favorable loan terms from a sub-prime lending company Obama has criticized.

    The Illinois senator kept the adviser — former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson — at an arm’s length, but heartily rejected the suggestion that he should do background checks for unpaid members of a search committee, no matter how influential their task may be.

    “I mean this is a game that can be played — everybody, you know, who is anybody who is tangentially related to our campaign I think is going to have a whole host of relationships,” he said in St. Louis, Mo. “I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters. I mean at some point, you know, we just asked people to do their assignments.”

    Although presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has sought to use the connection to his advantage this week, Obama downplayed his connection with the team, which includes Caroline Kennedy and Eric Holder, a former deputy attorney general and U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia under President Clinton.

    “These aren’t folks who are working for me,” Obama said. “They are not people, you know, who I have assigned to a job in the future administration, and ultimately my assumption is that this is a discreet task that they are going to be performing for me in the next two months.”

    The presumptive Democratic nominee was responding to criticism after The Wall Street Journal reported that Johnson, who is leading his three-member vice presidential search team, received more than $7 million in loans from Countrywide Financial Corp. The Journal reported Johnson received at least two loans at below-market rates as a result of a relationship he had with the company’s CEO Angelo Mozilo.

    In its reporting, The Wall Street Journal said it found nothing illegal about the loan terms, and an attorney for Johnson said the loans were in the bounds for those to people with credit backgrounds like Johnson’s.

    Obama has criticized Countrywide on the stump, and the McCain camp continued its attacks on Obama for the connection Tuesday.

    “It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO — Obama is in a state of denial,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said in a statement. “It’s that brand of weak leadership and hypocrisy that shows why Barack Obama has no record of taking courageous stands or making change in Washington.”

    Obama said Tuesday, “I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages.”

    He said Johnson and the other two members on the running-mate search team are “performing that job well,” and stressed that their positions are volunteer and unpaid.

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/10/obama-controversy-over-advisers-ties-to-home-lender-is-a-game/

  267. McCain to visit Colombia

    John McCain will visit Colombia for one day in early July and meet with President Alvaro Uribe, reports the country’s largest daily.

    According to today’s edition of El Tiempo, potential stops include the capital in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena.

    As the piece notes, McCain’s visit will surely emphasize the proposed free trade deal between the U.S. and Colombia that has stalled in Congress.

    But a stop in Bogota will also allow McCain to press another, more central, issue in his campaign: Obama’s willingness to meet unconditionally with hostile foreign leaders such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez.

    Tensions have run high this year between Colombia and their neighbors to the east and Chavez has belittled Uribe for his close relationship with the U.S. Standing with Uribe, McCain will be able to draw — even if he doesn’t come out and say it — a contrast between himself and Obama.

    The quick trip to South American will mark McCain’s second foreign tour since capturing the GOP nomination. In March, he, Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman visited Iraq, the Middle East and Europe.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/McCain_to_visit_Colombia.html

  268. Yeah, if it’s one thing BHO knows a thing about or two, it’s shady mortgage deals.

    Looks like he made off like a bandit on his own sweetheart mansion deal with Rezko payoff – and got a pass from Big Media – so why not his VP search committee member? All in a day’s work, man. Chill out, he says – this is the Chicago way of doing business and running the government. Do as I say, not as I do.

    Wonder if Johnson got his property taxes paid by “someone else” too, at ridiculously low appraisal rates? Remember the clerk that blew the whistle on BHO’s skewed property values/taxes? How in the hell he gets away with this and doesn’t have to explain to US, the voting public, is simply astonishing.

    What a bunch of horse$#!+.

    But hey, BHO, we’re just like a bunch of elephants (Republicans?) –

    WE DON’T FORGET ANYTHING. WE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL YOUR AND YOUR ASSOCIATES’ SHADY DEALINGS.

  269. Luckily I am a woman of my own mind and NOT EVEN HILLARY could get me to vote for BO.
    McCain will get my vote!

  270. Do Obama’s supporters really believe that their continued bullying and anti-Hillary antics are going to win over her supporters?

    How stupid can they be???

  271. I wonder how many more of those press conferences explaining shit the American Voter can stand.

    don’t worry, if this goes South with Johnson, we nthe gig by now. HE WASN’T THE PERSON I THOUGHT HE WAS.

    Maybe you should just have a T-Shirt made.

  272. Comments over on http://www.hcsfjm.com

    Comments Hi Ed, I will email about t-shirts and more designs later, but now here is a big newsflash. According to this article, OBAMA IS NOT EVEN A CITIZEN!!!!!!

    word.truthintheword.org/archives/1430

    Obama Hussein isn’t eligible to be President
    We already know that Jihadist Obama HUSSEIN is not QUALIFIED to be the President, we now know that he is not ELIGIBLE to be President under American law. This is a great comment to a post over at Michelle Malkin’s blog:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:
    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…

    DAWG! This guy really is about flaunting his illegal behavior in all of our faces, isn’t he?

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  273. Well if this is TRUE then Obama is ineligible for the POTUS.

    Why hasn’t Obama’s citizenship been challenged and what was the law on this?

    We know by Obama’s books and speech that his mother had him at 18 years old and that surely doesn’t comply with the age limit requirement of the Law starting at 16 plus 5 years, so his mother had to be 22 year old for Obama to be eligible.

    Can any of our lawyers verify this immigration law to be true?

  274. Filbertsf – I admire your decision to stay with the Democrats and become a Dem for McCain. I, on the other hand, am more other-directed or some other flaw. I can’t bear to admit to anyone that I am still with the Really Stupid Party.

  275. Fox is interviewing Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers at 5pm today. Something must be up, why are they going after Hillary now. There is something going on behind the scenes!

  276. Obama is such a fool for responding to the criticism of the leader of his VP search team. It’s amazing to witness just how much of a “rookie” he is when it comes to big-league presidential politics. McCain is attacking Obama with about 10x the level of force that Hillary used. Hillary, being a fellow Democrat, “couldn’t go there” on a lot of issues, and she really did fight with one hand tied behind her back. The Republicans will not be so kind.

    The Obama team has prided themselves on copying Bill Clinton’s famed “rapid response” campaign architecture, to their credit. The problem is that they respond to EVERYTHING. McCain understands this, and so he’s CONSTANTLY on the attack, so that Obama is CONSTANTLY on the defensive. The end result is that we’ll have a snippy, back-and-forth, traditional, negative campaign. Obama will be exposed as just another politician.

  277. Hi –

    First, it is nice to hear from you and I hope all is well in your world–as well as can be expected under the circumstances. Clearly we did not get the result Hillary deserved and for many of us that will be a problem in November.

    Second, I am proud of the job Hillary did in this campaign–the public appearances, the debates, the interviews she is our heroine. I wrote a book on leadership about her, travelled to five states as a campaign volunteer (Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virginia and South Dakota), and am still working to support her interests and always will.

    Third, I am one of the 18 million people who voted for her and the reason we did so is simple: we believe in Hillary. We know she is working in our interests. Our love for her is unconditional. Our faith in her is true and adorable. She is the president our country needs.

    Fourth, I am well aware of the endgame which occurred here–the kangaroo court proceeding of the RBC, the threats that were made to superdelegates, the media corruption and the way she was strong armed into suspending a campaign we supported. I am equally aware of how her opponent exploited race and gender as a conscious campaign strategy. So when Mr. Obama comes to me for money he does not need whether through you or through his channels he comes with unclean hands.

    Fifth, like many of Hillarys supporters I would march to the gates of hell for her. But please do not ask me to cross the street for Barack Obama. I firmly believe if he were to become president it would bring on a thousand misfortunes, particularly now as our country sails into a perfect storm. History shows that when the chips are down he not stand behind the positions and principles he espouses, I.e. Ecelon, Goolsbee, etc.-the pattern is clear.

    Sixth, I cannot speak for others but the only thing that might change my mind is if she is given the role of vice president with operational responsiblities. The problems we face today are such that he needs her help not only in the general election but in the government itself whether he realizes it or not. This will promote party unity and give us some chance to address problems with a less disasterous learning curve.

    Seventh, big media is now obsessing over where Hillary voters will go in the general election. Bonnie Erbee has suggested that obama begin with an apology to Hillary for the sexism (and racism) which was endemic in his capaign and the media. That would certainly be a good start. But the far greater problem is a fundamental lack of trust. Here is what I am talking about:www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9PsDebTrw

    Thank you again for getting me in to the Barer and Lewis events.

  278. confloyd,

    The only thing I can think here is that the media are going all guns to make Hillary illegible for VP, President, or even as a continuing senator, by going after Bill again in whatever way they can. They are doing everything for Obama.

  279. If they have to bring in, those two losers, they are indeed, scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Scumbags.

  280. JanH, I really think both sides are going after Hillary by bringing up old stuff on Bill. I think Bambi wants to use it to, so he will not have to offer her the VP slot. The republicans are using it and want to bring it all up again so in case they are able to knock out BO, they want to get a head start on Hillary! It also may mean they are getting ready to put out the whitey tape and want to get BO to select someone else that would be easier than Hillary would be to knock out.

    The republicans may be getting nervous with this 100 mil he has raised this month!

  281. birdgal, you are right, I heard Jennifer voted for Hillary. Who cares about this old stuff anyway?? They are grasping at straws to get something on Hillary. She should not be held responsible for Bill indescretions!

    Oh brother, Fox is going hard today against Bill, now they are bringing up social security fix and Newt!

    I am telling you all, something is up!!

  282. I think everyone with half a brain in the Democratic party can realize that Hillary is by FAR the best candidate for vice president. It isn’t even close. And the Republicans, who are generally better raw political tacticians than Democrats, can see this fact even more clearly. So, they’re continuing to blast Hillary at every possible turn, figuring that there’s no reason to stop going after her now, in case she’s VP.

  283. They won’t be satisfied until they have stripped Hillary Clinton of all of her dignity. I cannot believe the ugliness out there.

  284. # JanH Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Do Obama’s supporters really believe that their continued bullying and anti-Hillary antics are going to win over her supporters?

    How stupid can they be???
    &&&&&&&

    I believe this is the “wooing process” that is supposed to help bring Clinton supporters back into the fold.

    “Come to my party. You have to. And you have to buy me an expensive gift. I’ll be serving wonderful food for my guests on the A-list. There’ll be Cheetos for you and your gang. Oh, a be a dear, and smile when the camera man comes around. It’s supposed to be festive”.

  285. You know Hillary and Bill’s love life, politics and just about anything that has to do with them has been a cash cow for the media for over 16 years! They aren’t going to let that go easily! It’s kinda funny that she is still making news and I know the DNC wants her to melt away. Good or bad her name is still on the 6o’clock news!! LOL!!

  286. But isn’t it funny that even with what happened with Bill Clinton, Hillary has stood strong and tall and the popular vote was in her favor?

    No matter how hard the media, DNC, and Obama’s troops tried to stop her, the people refused to listen. That must be very annoying to the media especially who think they can manipulate anyone and anything.

  287. Going after Bill and Hill is ridiculous. Axelrod is probably probbing the media to do this, as a means of distraction, from the foibles of waffles. They are so transparent. There is real dirt on waffles and his angry, anti-American wife, and they are going after two patriots. I am so glad, that I turned off that toxic garbage.

  288. They are talking over at hcsjm that BO’s birth certificate does not allow him to be the Prez. They are all up in the air about it. Apparently BO will not release his birth certificate!

    This guy is peddling transparency, yet is so obscure with his background it is not even funny!!

  289. I understand why they are going after Bill and Hill because they are the threat and the Republicans want to win keep the White House. But I’ll NEVER FORGET and FORGIVE the Democrats for what they sanctioned this primary season to Hillary and Women Rights and Equal Rights.

    Okay, now what about his Charge that Obambi is NOT ELIGIBLE to be President under the laws at that time of his birth…is it true?

  290. Well how can he get away with this?

    Obambi is running for the President of the United States and his Birth Certificate is open to the public or better yet it’s needed for his background checks.

    Obama stated in his books and speeches that his Mother had him at 18 years old and never married his father or his Kenyan father was already married….so what’s the problem?

  291. OBAMA REFUSING TO RELEASE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

    I can’t vouch for the authenticity of this story, discussed at noquarter:

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/hillary-endorsed-obama-public-mauling-might-cease-soon/#comment-342297

    (do a Ctrl-F, lower case “f” that is, and do a search on “birth certificate”.)

    The issue is that supposedly Obama was born in Hawaii…or was he??? And supposedly, Kenya is not releasing their records for the date of his birth.

    Again, please treat this as an UNCONFIRMED RUMOR. And if it is true, and Obama cannot find his birth certificate (“I swore, it was under that pile of papers, but then we moved into the mansio…um, our new house, it seemed to have gotten a wee bit lost”), I suppose it’s no big deal. The DNC can vouch for him, and MSM will say, “Can’t we all just get off his case”.

    And if they install him in the presidency, he would (might, if this is true) be breaking more than one barrier: first non-American elected president.

    Yay!

  292. birdgal Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
    carby: this may be a cooked up problem. his mother was a citizen.

    *****************************************************
    But during that time they had stricted citizen rules for American citzen who married non American…and it’s my understand that there was an age requirement for those under 21 years old. That’s why children of soldiers were not given citizenship if one of their parents were a foreign citizen.

    I remember during boot camp around 74 on those sex talks and birth control talks about little accidents and etc….so this is cause for research on this issue.

    Michelle Malkin is pretty good on this issue regarding Immigration Laws and rights.

  293. Even, if he was born overseas, wouldn’t he still be a U.S. citizen, because his mother was an American? Does he have dual citizenship? I thought, he was born in Hawaii.

  294. Just to save you a long distance phone call-when you get the barack obama crap from the democratic congressional campaign committee and elsewhere there is an unscribe button which cuts him off.

  295. turndownobama-com Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 5:22 am
    Guys, all these gimmicky things you’re mailing to the DNC wll just go straight to the landfill — probabaly straght from the Post Office!

    Don’t send them to the DNC, send them to Leno or someone like that. Show a disitrested party how many people care about this. He might talk about it on the air.

    The DNC will never admit anything happened!

    This is a great idea. Lets do this

  296. No! His mother was under 21 years old and his father was an Kenyan citizen who had a bigamous relationship with her. This is basic law…is Obama a citizen of this country based on the laws at the time of his birth.

    I’m not an immigration specialist but I do know automatic citizenship was not given to children if one parent was not an American citizen.

    Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas, who was largely descended from pre-revolutionary British settlers to the United States, although her great-great-grandfather Falmouth Kearney emigrated from Ireland in the mid 19th century.[1][2] His parents met while both were attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student.[3] They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.[4

    Aren’t marriage certificate public records?

  297. We cannot leave it to the DNC to spin this they will only keep saying that we will fall in line.

    We must get our info out to the media
    Maher and all the guys who made fun of us called us whiners the today show, Maher, Corbett, CBS morning show, Fox and Friends, Craig Crawford, Pat Buchanan send it to some of the journalists who when they get interviewed they will state the opposite of the spin that Obama and the DNC is using. Targeting about 3 or more or whatever the number of people a week but we must get started as stated below send this info to them.

    cornfed June 10, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    I totally agree we are wasting time with the DNC. The only thing we should send them are receipts of our donations to HRC ’s debt or McCain’s campaign.
    Targeting the media is a MUCH better idea.
    Fox, especially Hannity and Greta
    Lou
    Who else?

  298. I had read somewhere back when Edwards was still in the race, it was a site called something like “freedom fighters”????

    at any rate, it had a entire outline on obama and it stated that OBama was born in Africa because africa/kenya would not allow his mother to fly out of the country being as pregnant as she was, so immediately after he was born she got on the first flight to america and then filed his birth certificate once she was here

    so that would mean his birth records are false and he would not be eligible for president.

    I will try to find that info again

  299. ok , now that information is missing from that site since they “redid” it….. hmmmmmm

    I know it was there before!!

  300. # carbynew Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Well if this is TRUE then Obama is ineligible for the POTUS.

    Why hasn’t Obama’s citizenship been challenged and what was the law on this?

    We know by Obama’s books and speech that his mother had him at 18 years old and that surely doesn’t comply with the age limit requirement of the Law starting at 16 plus 5 years, so his mother had to be 22 year old for Obama to be eligible.

    Can any of our lawyers verify this immigration law to be true?
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Carby, you’ve been great.

    Hmmm, you would have thought that the DNC would insist on vetting their candidates, VERY CAREFULLY. No last second surprises. If Obama was asked for his records, and he said, “I’ll get back to you on that later”, then the DNC failed to perform “due diligence”.

    Again, it appears the refs make up the rules as they go along, fail to review questionable calls, and yet they want us to respect on them for the alleged legitimacy that they confer upon The Process.

    The lack of legitimacy regarding the nomination is one of a few key reasons that HRC supporters feel shafted, and are ready to cleanse the Democratic house.

  301. I think everyone with half a brain in the Democratic party can realize that Hillary is by FAR the best candidate for vice president. It isn’t even close. And the Republicans, who are generally better raw political tacticians than Democrats, can see this fact even more clearly. So, they’re continuing to blast Hillary at every possible turn, figuring that there’s no reason to stop going after her now, in case she’s VP.
    ———————————————–
    Berkley: I have known them long enough and well enough to know that is most likely the game they are playing. Also the fundraising and media advantage bambi is building now over mccain may induce them to destroy him sooner rather than later in which case they must also attend to Hillary. But it is old news and has already been factored into the stock price. They do have a problem rallying their base but they dont need to hit Hillary for that-Obama is more repugnant than she is to conservative republicans-trust me.

  302. rgb44hrc, That Citizenship argument is valid only if the child is born outside USA. If you are born on US soil you are a natural born citizen.

    immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

  303. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986:

    “If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

    If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.”

    immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

  304. If the birth certificate issue is real, it would be too politically poisonous for the Clinton campaign to file a legal challenge, that a) Obama must provide his birth certificate as proof of citizenship, and b) once provided, to subject him to a legal review of the status of his citizenship based on the rules at the time, in other words, what the LAW says.

    So if her campaign can’t file this challenge, some citizen’s group(s) will need to do this…I wonder who might be interested in this??? (heh, heh).

    This qualification to be president is very important. It removes any questioin about ones’ allegiances. As “wonderful” as Arnold the Governator is (feel free to form your own opinion), he can’t be prez, even if you think he CAN be trusted.

    McCain is a completely different story. He was born to American parents, in some American territory as I recall.

  305. A report by the Project for Excellence in ‘Journalism has documented that during the last two months of the Democratic primary campaign in April and May, the television networks devoted more time to speculation about when Hillary Clinton would call it quits than about the candidates’ positions on Iraq, the mounting price of gasoline, home foreclosures or the economy. Referring to the study, former NBC anchor Tom Brokaw told the Associated Press that it was “inappropriate” for journalists “to try to cut the process short. … There was an awful lot of commentary disguised as reporting that gave the impression that people were trying to shove her out of the race.” ——————————-

    This was hardly a mere impression. It was an uncontrovertible fact. Even now these media whores cannot look themselves in the mirror.

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    comments:I believe that the media did write Clinton out of the race. When it first began, I kept looking for news of Hillary because I wanted her to be the nominee. There was hardly any news of her….ever! When it started to become heated, I found that almost every pundit had negative comments to make. I kept changing the channels. There are a few opinionated pundits that I won’t ever listen to again. It seemed to make more sense to them to bash Clinton rather than what was good for the country. Maybe, the ratings were better if they bashed….who knows? I also believe that the middle-aged male in them couldn’t bear the thought of a woman in a higher position. When my husband and his co-workers found themselves with a brand new woman manager they all but turned themselves inside-out with hatred. It went on for months. These were supposed to be educated men too.

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  306. His own father and mother’s wedding in Hawaii may not have been properly documented. “How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to explore,” Obama writes in his memoir.

    It’s understandable that Obama overlooks the particulars, since Ann Dunham was probably a minor when Barack Obama Sr., an already married 24-year-old, impregnated her?

    Obama weighed eight pounds, two ounces when he was born on August 4, 1961 (p. 22 of Dreams from My Father), so we can assume he went close to full term, or nine months.

    His parents’ marriage took place six months before his birth on February 2nd, 1961. Nine months before Obama’s birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunham’s 18th birthday on November 29, 1960.

    It appears that Barack Sr., a married man of about 24, almost certainly impregnated a 17-year-old Dunham.

  307. if you belong to democraticparty you will want to unsubscribe immediately
    they have given our emails to BO

    just got my first one today:

    David Plouffe, BarackObama.com [democraticparty@democrats.org]

  308. Wouldn’t that be a disaster for Dean, Pelosi and Donna if afterall the money, the smear campaign on Hillary that it turned out that Obama could not be eligible to be POTUS.

    I wonder what is required in each state to file for a Presidential run. Do you have to show your records or what?

  309. an email that was sent to Donna 😀

    Dear Ms. Brazile,
    >
    > It’s sad to know that you will now be leaving the Democratic Party. Those nasty super
    delegates went and voted the way you were afraid they would, against the will of the
    popular vote.
    >
    > It is humbling to know that you are a woman of your word and will now leave the party
    that used to be for the people. You know, those working class folks who took the time out
    of their schedule to vote, particularly in Michigan and Florida.
    >
    > Thanks for all of your hard work.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >

  310. makes one remember the ” pass port gate” issue doesn’t it
    hmmm i wonder who was really doing the digging and why?? 😀

  311. from noquarter today

    *Breaking* Hillary has Definitely NOT Released Delegates (& Call to Action)

    By TexasDarlingravatarcloseAuthor: TexasDarlin Name: Texas Darlin
    Email: tex4hillary@yahoo.com
    Site: texasdarlin.wordpress.com
    About: See Authors Posts (17) on June 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM in Current Affairs, DNC, Delegates, Democratic National Convention, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean

    In an earlier story, No Quarter rushed to counter a rumor started today at Taylor Marsh, which published the headline Hillary Releases Delegates, linking to a quote from a delegate who was reportedly on a conference call with Clinton and Ickes last night. Apparently the rumor is now spreading like wildfire across the blogs, including at Politico.

    The Rumor is FALSE.

    I have just received an e-mail message from Mary Boergers, a former Maryland State Senator and a pledged Clinton delegate. Mary was on the conference call with Hillary Clinton last night, and she has given us permission to publish her message in full:

    I was on that conference call and there was nothing in Hillary’s comments to indicate that she was releasing her delegates and urging them to vote for Obama on the first vote in Denver. In fact what Harold Ikes said was that the campaign would like to keep Hillary’s delegates together so that she can more effectively fight for issues like universal health care to make sure it is included in the party platform.

    This seems like deliberate misinformation. (Sound familiar!)

    One of the super delegates who was in London in fact complained about the strong arm pressure from the Obama campaign to immediately (last Friday before Hillary’s speech) switch their vote to Obama.

    So to me the strategy is clear. The Obama folks want to try and prevent us from nominating Hillary at the convention and voting for her at the convention. We need to STOP this. Historically losing candidates always have their names put into nomination, give a great speech and then there is a roll call vote. The presumptive nominee gets the majority and then there may be a call to make it unanimous.

    We need to make sure that people are aware of this procedure. Once again the Obama people are trying to change the rule of the game, pretending that they were always the rules in order to push Hillary aside. We must keep them from succeeding.

    To me this is the most important thing that we can do right now. We need to attack Howard Dean for saying that he hopes there isn’t a role call vote at the convention.

    This pressure, heavy handed tactics and “shot gun” marriage effort must end. This is the fight that we need to continue!

    Mary Boergers

    To repeat Mary’s call to action: We need to attack Howard Dean for saying that he hopes there isn’t a role call at the convention.

    Contact Howard Dean:
    Phone: 202-863-8000
    Fax: 202-863-8174
    E-mail: HowardDean@dnc.org

  312. dija: I received the same thing, but when I tried to unsubscribe, I never received my “unsubscribe” code. Guess, I’ll have to wait, until the next one comes. It is BO’s party now, and I do not want anything to do with it.

  313. clintondem99 Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    rgb44hrc, That Citizenship argument is valid only if the child is born outside USA. If you are born on US soil you are a natural born citizen.
    &&&&&

    Oh, so that’s how you have illegal immigrants with “legalized” offspring, because they were born here…

    Well, maybe it will be like Emily Littela, “…never mind”.

  314. I will never never vote for the car salesman. obami is a phony. he does not deserve my vote….

  315. birdgal Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
    dija: I received the same thing, but when I tried to unsubscribe, I never received my “unsubscribe” code
    &&&&&

    Same thing here – I’m still waiting and it’s been 3 hours. I tried again and same result – nothing.

  316. Hi everyone! I miss all of you…I want to get some time to hang out and visit.

    I’m trying to work on a special little project and wonder if some of the “resident attorneys” on this site would contact me at icount @ clintondems.com.

    I know we’ve got OkieAtty…are there more?

  317. GaryinDCandLA Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    birdgal Says:

    Yep i am still waiting too!! those SCUMBAGS!!! grrrrrrrrrrr!

  318. yeah, but so why doesn’t he show us the birth certificate from Hawaii? Some are saying he was born in Africa and was 2 weeks old and his mother registered him in Hawaii!

  319. when there are stories like this out there….

    you need to post this on several websites so it gets picked up, please:

    http://www.clintondems.com
    http://www.noquarter.com
    http://www.taylormarsh.com
    http://www.theconfluence.com

    Thanks

    —–Original Message—–
    From: newwomensparty@aol.com
    To: newwomensparty@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 8:08 am
    Subject: [newwomensparty] Report on my experience attending the TDP state convention

    I am disgusted with the TDP and the DNC. The only time we Clinton supporters were on our feet, shouting, cheering clapping, waving our Hillary signs and chanting “Hillary, Hillary, Hillary” over and over was when Chelsea appeared to speak. I could only get a few glimpses of her on the overhead monitor way up front, but she was clearly choked up to see the overwhelming support for her mother. It was the one true bright spot in the whole convention. It was the only time HRC supporters appeared to be happy at all.

    I’ve never in my life seen so many angry people in one place. We had close to 15,000 attending. Pretty close to the size of the National Convention I’m told. The more the Obama people tried to shove their unity crap down our throats, the angrier the HRC supporters were getting. don’t let anyone convince you otherwise. I was there and saw it up close. They clearly cheated. HRC supporters outnumbered the Obama people 2.5 to 1. In our Senate District, when we had our caucus, we outnumbered them and stacked the delegation with all HRC supporters, except 1 or 2 and only because we had multiple HRC people running. They were complaining about it too and saying we were cheating and it wasn’t fair and my answer every time was “payback is a bitch, isn’t it?” There was a tall black woman who had been the SDEC rep for a long time and had been doing a very good job, but she got booted out replaced with a yong Hispanic male. And an older man from West Texas who wanted to be elected to SDEC, but he was an Obama supporter who we wouldn’t vote for. He came over to us and tried to tell me we didn’t want all San antonio reps, but I said he shouldn;t have supported Obama over HRC and he started to argue and I said “Payback is a real bitch, isn’t it?” There was an Obama male delegate and we had such a heated argument, I thought we were about to get into fistfight Friday night and again Saturday. He got real upset when all the HRC people kept saying they wouldn’t support Obama in the General. He kept saying what about the other Dem’s on the ticket and the Supreme Court and so on. My response was that our Congressman stood by Hillary when she had taken our entire district 3 to 1, undergoing terrible pressure to change his vote, (our Senate District is the largest in the entire country and bigger than 26 countries) and we were going to help him, but as far as I was concerned, any super delegate who voted for Obama was toast in the General. We’re targeting them for def eat by organizing against them. They can’t save them. They really screwed up.

    They cheated. HRC had overwhelming numbers of supporters so how the hell did they give Texas to Obama? Answer: Boyd Richie made a dirty back room deal with Obama to undercut one of his first supporters, a black woman and the Vice Chair who was challenging Richie. Obama and the Black Caucus made a dirty back room deal to kick her to the curb. I had read about it on line and made contact with her and her campaign chair kept in touch with me. When I told the black women in our Senate District what they were doing, they said I was lying. “Obama wouldn’t do that”. Well by the end of Friday Night, they found out I was speaking the truth and all hell broke out. By Saturday, we were raising so much hell, they had first refused to give the Vice Chair credentials. They they wouldn’t let her get her challenge for state party chair out of committee so we had to get a white women to nominated her from the floor. Then still trying to keep her from running, someone stole her purse with her credentials in it to try to stop her. We had four men from our SD, who got together with some other men from her SD and they went and got in the faces of the armed guards where they had the candidates curtained off back stage.

    We were raising s much hell, Boyd Richie sent one of his cute like bi-racial girlie’s out to try to shut us up. When that didn’t work, they sent a HRC supporter out to talk to us about how they were cheating. Guy named Charlie Jones. He was very nice and they called him back stage right after that. I’m telling you Clara Lou, we raised some hell.

    Anyway, almost every HRC supporter who talked to me privately, came up to tell me to keep raising hell cuz they aren’t voting for Obama. Many said they may not show up to vote at all. They kept trying to get HRC supporters to go up there and tell us to join hands and unite and it just wasn’t happening. You think I’m mad? HA! I was just more vocal about it. All these people, mostly women, kept coming up to me to tell me thanks for sticking up for HRC and women’s voices. Don’t ask me how it happened cuz I had premised myself I was going to lie low and not say much and just observe. The HRC supporters weren’t happy at all. I think if things keep up like this, he’s either toast at the national convention and he’ll be forced out when the super-delegates realize they are going to get voted out in the GE, or another bad scandal hits like Obama getting indicted, or some other reason that they have to nominate HRC. Women are organizing a million woman protest for Denver and that is what they kept shouting back the few times they said anything back at the let’s unite kumbaye crap. In some ways, we had a good time and we definitely learned alot about how dirty back room deals are made to screw over the people. I feel as angry and robbed ofmy vote and my voice as I did in 2000 and this time our own oarty is doing it to us. I am not supporting that black supermacist racist no matter what and I think if the DNC is willing to bank everything on him to break the Clinton’s, they are about to lose their asses and have them handed back to them on a platter. Pelosi and Reid must be booted out of their failed non-leadership positions. They must be the worst leaders in the history of this country. Talk about Nazi Appeasers! They are certainly acting like reincarnations of Neville Chamberlain. And like a total ass I remember when Pelosi comes out and says “there’s a enw sheriff in town” like the twit thnks she’s going to do anything when crimes are being commited all over the world and Congress does nothing but hold meaningless hearings. I sure wouldn’t want to be Robert Wexler this fall after he pushed for his state to get half votes. I hope whatever Obama promsied him is worth what he did cuz his constitutents are ready to boot him out on his butt too from all reports.

    The party is going to lose and lose big in the GE. Sorry to say it though. I am not knuckling under to no GD party dictating to me who to support and forcing their pick on us. Screw that. Screw party unity and screw the TDP and DNC.

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    How long must women wait for our woman presidential nominee?

  320. Obama and his gang are in a very great hurry to get Hillary out of the picture.RNC started the OBAMA vetting full blast yesterday.The traitors at the DNC have been using the term Her Baggage as the reason for supporting him and they are now in a panic to get him nominated in any way that they can.Disregard al the flat out lies the Obama camp are spreading.Everday his incompetence gets more apparent and we must stay strong for Hillary.She is not out of this race by any means.This country needs her NOW

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  321. # confloyd Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    yeah, but so why doesn’t he show us the birth certificate from Hawaii? Some are saying he was born in Africa and was 2 weeks old and his mother registered him in Hawaii!
    ************************

    so you have seen this too!!?? I’m not crazy!! 😀

    I know what i read……. and its not on that site any longer, i read it just prior to “pass port gate” I think axlegrease did a little house cleaning……but shouldn’t be too hard for the GOP to get the truth 😀

  322. rgb44hrc wrote:

    McCain is a completely different story. He was born to American parents, in some American territory as I recall.
    ———–

    Yes, correct. Panama Canal Zone, if I recall. The Washington Post or NYT did a big article on McCain’s legal status vis-a-vis the presidency, and concluded that he was constitutionally allowed to run. If Big Media was fair, they’d conduct similar inquiries into Obama’s status.

  323. Birdgal…I’m trying to be serious (I know that’s a rarity, but it does happen). I’ve been out all day and got word he’s calling a press conference. Know anything about that?

  324. # confloyd Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    yeah, but so why doesn’t he show us the birth certificate from Hawaii? Some are saying he was born in Africa and was 2 weeks old and his mother registered him in Hawaii!

    %%%%%%

    That would make sense. How many millions of people have tried to smuggle in their children so they’d be considered “born in America”, and be American citizens? It’s not far-fetched.

    Show us your damn birth certificate.

    (And putting on my Motor Vehicles hat): “I’m sorry, sir, but this is just a xerox copy. The rules clearly state it must be a raised-seal original. Please go to the back of the line”.

  325. Idunn, how are you?

    Burdened. How are YOU? 😉

    I think it was about Jim Johnson

    Whoa! THAT was fast! What time is this waffle-fest due to land upon us?

  326. Idunn, I think Carbynew posted a Fox article about Jim Johnson. Look upthread.

    Did anyone here get a call from the Obama camp asking for support your support?

  327. filbertsf, From what I understand he was trying to upstage McCain’s economic address to small business. It fell flat because it was on webTV and he sounded like a Robot.

  328. Blah…nevermind, I found it on youtube. Damn, when he gets into anything other than the change/unity/ rainbow and kitten speeches, he’s INCREDIBLY boring, no?

  329. Obama does that often, doesn’t he? It’s a dickish attitude. I suppose it’s effective if it refocuses the attention away from your opponenet, but it’s sleazy.

  330. Idunn, I wouldn’t know. I can honestly say I’ve never heard any of Obama’s speeches. Never. Just like the for last 8 years, I’ve yet to sit through any of Bush’s speeches — from press conferences to the SOTU.

  331. Idunn: found this on The Confluence:

    “Jim Johnson has a very discrete task,” Obama continued, “as does Eric Holder, and that is simply to gather up information about potential vice presidential candidates. They are performing that job well, it’s a volunteer, unpaid position. And they are giving me information and I will then exercise judgment in terms of who I want to select as a vice presidential candidate.

    “So this – you know, these aren’t folks who are working for me,” Obama said. “They’re not people you know who I have assigned to a job in a future administration and, you know, ultimately my assumption is that, you know, this is a discreet task that they’re going to performing for me over the next two months.”

    You can watch some of this press conference HERE.

    Did I read that correctly? Did Obama claim that Johnson and Holder — two of the three people heading up his VP search committee — aren’t “work”ing for him?

  332. I’m taking a 5 minute break from cottage renovation.

    Anyone else read that KUCINICH introduced 35 articles of IMPEACHMENT against Bush last night?????!!!!!!

    Conyers is supporting it.

  333. 😳

    I meant Conyers ISN’T supporting it.

    Oped. news

    By David Swanson
    Full Text Of Articles Of Impeachment
    Congressman Dennis Kucinich Introduced 35 Articles of Impeachment Against President Bush on Monday Night

  334. What Hillary Really Wants

    June 9th, 2008 J Cifre, J.D. Posted in Political Analysis | 360 Comments »
    savagepolitics.com/

    Many people, including Hillary Clinton supporters, have been asking themselves recently: What does Hillary Clinton really want? After any level of examination, the answer should be quite clear; she wants all of her supporters to vote for John McCain. This conclusion may seem at odds with her endorsement of Barack Obama, but only if you have not paid close attention to the entire primary election.

    As many of you remember, Hillary Clinton gave it all for her candidacy. She spent months making the case that Barack Hussein Obama was unelectable, inexperienced, immature about foreign policy, even dangerous in comparison to John S. McCain. She also made the case that SHE was highly qualified, had the strong record on social issues and had the necessary judgment to be Commander in Chief. Many times she even made it a point to mention that McCain had already crossed the Commander in Chief threshold, while Obama had obviously failed to do the same. It would be fair to conclude that this was not dishonest rhetoric on her part, since even a casual study of Obama’s record confirms her multiple contentions. In addition, she also bluntly told most superdelegates in private that “Obama CAN’T win!”. In other words, she basically laid ALL of her credibility and experience on the line to make the case that the only two capable candidates in the race to the White House were John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Even Bill Clinton participated in this spread of this theme and made public statements in which he clearly pointed out that “it would be great to see a race between two people who really love their Country”, something that made all within the Obama campaign cringe, for the obvious implications of said statement; Obama is NOT patriotic enough to run for our highest office (the nefarious legacy of Rev. Wright, Mr. Khalidi and Mr. Ayers).

    Clinton’s plea was obviously well heeded, and led to her candidacy’s automatic increase in votes, even among those who initially did not like her, and it also actively allowed her to reach the highest voting margin in all American primary history. As any observer of the primary season can attest, there was an almost dramatic urgency in her supporters (which increased every day) to battle against the dangerous pretensions of Barack Hussein Obama, an individual who has constantly exemplified blatant ignorance, inexperience, arrogance, sexism and anti-White racism throughout his campaign for the White House. Even key figures in her Republican opposition (who would have not benefited from her success), and who never had shown any respect for Mrs. Clinton, ended up admiring her and wishing that she would beat the odds against the Obama machine and take the nomination. But, at the end of it all, the Democratic Party’s thirst for cash was more powerful than the will of the countless Jewish, Hispanic, and White working-class voters throughout Florida, Michigan, and the rest of the United States. Money and political correctness became lauder than the women who actually form their base, and they quickly handed the nomination to the Obamas’.

    After a hard struggle, Hillary Clinton was basically forced to capitulate her candidacy by the Party bosses and made to publicly show her “support” for their nominee. Many were the Clinton supporters who wished that she could leave her party and run as an independent, or that she would at least take her fight into Denver and fight it out ‘tooth and nail’. Instead, she appeared to have ‘thrown in the towel’. But anyone who understands politics, and/or is knowledgeable about her career in the realm of public service, knows that this reaction is simply too “easy” and must therefore reflect a long term strategy (something for which the Clintons are well known). What is then her ultimate strategy?

    There are many curious clues within her latest speeches that should be pointed out to her supporters in an attempt to help them understand what she really NEEDS from them.

    First, Hillary has continued to make the case of the 18 Million voters, that ‘magic number’ which constantly underscores the fact that she won the popular vote against Obama.

    Second, Hillary DID NOT mention John McCain during her entire concession speech, a very strange fact when you consider that the whole strategy of the Democratic Party is based on the fictional contrast between Obama and John McCain, via Bush.

    Third, Hillary has made sure to constantly state that she will continue to fight for her supporters and that one day they will actually ‘break that highest of all glass ceilings’ together, a term that she has continuously used to make the case that she will become the first female President. What is her underlying message? What important piece of the overall strategy does her wide range of supporters play into this political strategy?

    There is NO DOUBT that if any Hillary Clinton supporter wants to see her (or any woman for that matter) become President of the United States within their lifetimes, Barack Obama HAS to lose the general election, and by a wide margin. Anyone who has ever claimed to be a Clinton supporter MUST vote AGAINST Barack Obama, if they wish to even respect and/or uplift her credibility as a political figure. There is, in fact, NO ESCAPE from this reality. Let’s look at her alternatives.

    On the practical level, IF Obama wins in November, it would push her possibility of running for the Presidency by more than 8 years into the future, since she would NOT be able to run against him after the first term (even if he was a certified loser) because the Party would simply not allow her to challenge their incumbent candidate. By the year 2016, the possibility of a Republican candidate taking back the White House from the Democrats will be basically guaranteed, even if we only base it in the dynamics of how our system tends to work. Thus, this sequence of events would basically push her candidacy even further ahead for another 4 to 8 years (this amounts to 16 years into the future!). In other words, by voting for Obama you are LITERALLY barring her election FOR ALL TIME. Based on this measure, her candidacy entirely depends on Obama’s defeat. But, there is also another factor to consider in this election, which deals with her credibility and integrity, and that could also block her future chances.

    As we have already mentioned, Hillary Clinton spent a lot of energy, and placed her entire career/reputation on the line (within her own party), to make the case that her supporters would more than likely not vote for Obama in the general election, that he was unprepared, that he was not ready, that he was ‘out of touch’, that SHE was the only one that could truly beat John McCain, etc. If she is somehow proven wrong in November, by Obama and the Mainstream Media, you can be sure that her role within the Democratic Party would automatically diminish even further, and that she could never again run for the Presidency of the United States. In addition, her entire campaign would be automatically labeled as a “shamefully racist smear” for all historical purposes, since she was the only high profile figure that continuously told everyone that “a black man” from her own party couldn’t win in America. Based on this measure as well, her future candidacy completely depends on Obama’s defeat.

    Based on these factors alone, the ONLY chance that she and her supporters have of EVER achieving victory (and reaching the White House) is by helping John McCain in the process of defeating Barack Obama in November. The ONLY chance that Hillary Clinton has of protecting her legacy, is that her supporters prove to the world (and her party) that she WAS RIGHT all along, and that a corrupt and inexperienced anti-White racist will never win the White House. The only way to redeem Hillary Clinton in front of the biased Media is to prove to them that her judgment on the matter WAS ENTIRELY CORRECT, and that they were wrong.

    This is the context in which you find her following the party line, specially if she wants to be nominated for 2012 as the “I TOLD YOU SO” candidate ‘per excellence’ of her collectivity. She is NOT doing it to convince you that Obama is now magically qualified, or to have you “follow her lead” into oblivion. She wants you to listen to her entire record, to remember the Media’s sexism and racism. She wants you to remember her complimentary words about her friend John McCain. She wants you to understand politics and realize the true meaning of strategy. She wants you to read between the lines and understand her message.

    She is hoping that her supporters understand that the ONLY way that she can run again in 2012 is if Barack Obama is humiliated by an impressive defeat in November. Only then can she swoop down into the Democratic Party, negotiate with the elites, take back her party and defeat John McCain (in either 4 or 8 years). If Clinton’s supporters don’t listen carefully to her cues, if they don’t understand political strategy, if they remain ignorant of reality, they will actually partake in the destruction of Hillary Clinton’s legacy, and the chances that any of them might have had of putting a qualified woman in the White House.

    As many of you may already know, and as many within the Republican party have complained about, and as Bill Clinton himself has even confirmed with countless speeches, Hillary Clinton and John McCain are very close friends, and as her longtime record confirms, Hillary is A LOT BETTER in choosing her friends than Barack H. Obama ever will be. If McCain is good enough for Hillary, why shouldn’t her supporters feel the same way about him? Wouldn’t it be better to vote for Hillary Clinton’s personal friend than elect a man who has been friendly with terrorists and America haters? A man who, in contrast to McCain, has NEVER laid his career and reputation on the line to defend her from his own friends and spiritual advisers?

    When the general election arrives, I have NO DOUBT that Hillary Clinton will cast her vote for John McCain, just like McCain himself is reported to have casted his vote for Al Gore. To all of you who may have doubts of what Hillary wants, the answer is quite easy: Do NOT elect Barack Obama to the White House! You will do Hillary Clinton AND our Country a huge favor.

    ©2008 J.Cifre, J.D., of SAVAGEPOLITICS.com. All Rights Reserved.

  335. Nice…

    —–
    Feinstein: Clinton won popular vote
    By: Ryan Grim
    politico.com
    June 9, 2008 12:28 PM EST

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a backer of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) during the primary campaign, reiterated on ABC’s “This Week” that Clinton had won the popular vote — an assertion that is not accepted by Illinois Democrat Sen. Barack Obama’s camp and one that, if repeated often, could harm Democratic attempts to unify behind him.

    “Hillary Clinton is well known, certainly she had the popular vote in this election,” she said, according to a transcript. “That is something and that is something tremendous. Now, I believe the [vice presidential] nomination is up to him. I can’t tell him what to do. Nobody else can tell him what to do. All I can say is I agree with [Pennsylvania Gov.] Ed Rendell, that if you really want a winning ticket, this is it.”

    [edit]

  336. Did I read that correctly? Did Obama claim that Johnson and Holder — two of the three people heading up his VP search committee — aren’t “work”ing for him?

    ” These folks aren’t working for me…” “This is a discreet task they are performing for me…”

    Miriam-webster’s definition of “task”? usually an assigned piece of work often to be finished within a certain time.

    Maybe Senator O’Waffles needs to consult a dictionary more often, eh?

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  338. well we don’t call him “WAFFLES” for nothing LOL 😀

    I can’t wait to hear what hannity does with this one 😀

  339. out of all the backroom double dealing that we know has gone on,
    during this primary, you would think, some peoples concience
    would kick in.
    i was interested in that superdelegate from london, telling the
    truth and saying how they were strong armed.
    you would think, that many supers and others, have similiar stories
    to tell. i am wondering if there are many out there, just dyeing to
    tell there story…

    something has got to give…

  340. Yet another Bush / Obama parallel: I cannot stand the tone of their voice, nor the content of their speeches: vacuous, can’t think on their feet, lightweights.

    One parallel that I resolve to ensure never happens: that the Dem lightweight divider-not-a-uniter gets installed as prez.

  341. GUYS:

    NEEDLESS TO SAY MY OPINIION IS THAT THIS MUTHA OF ALL COMPUTER VIRUSES IS PROBABLY TIED TO BHO’S OBAMABOTS AND THEIR DESIRE TO DESTROY THEIR COMPETITION AND GAIN ACCESS TO CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION IN ORDER TO DEFEAT OPPOSITION….SERIOUSLY

  342. Idunn:

    ” These folks aren’t working for me…” “This is a discreet task they are performing for me…”

    Isn’t this contradictory? This guy is crackers.

  343. Fox doing its ditr to the clintons.Promoting trailer trash Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers’ new video about their sex romps with Bill. RNC doing its dirt on schedule. Sad state of our political parties.The world is laughing at us and rightly so.

    BY ABM90

  344. I did not like Taylor’s comment in her blog about Hillary – read this:

    “I’m following Hillary, because she’s the leader I trust most in the Democratic Party. That’s the best way to help Hillary. Follow her. That’s why her delegates will do as she asks and support Barack Obama.

    It’s over… this time. Denial isn’t helpful… to Hillary. That’s all that matters to me.”

    It’s not just over for Hillary, the quest for presidency is over for the Democratic Party, given they want to pick and stick with the loser.

  345. has anyone seen this, its a post from hcsfjm:
    User Name JudiNic

    In Response to Obama wants to change national anthem

    Comments Ed – keep up the good work.

    It is disgraceful the way Hillary got screwed by the DNC and media. The Obama-Soros machine needs to be annilated.

    by the way….did you know that Obama wants to change our National Athem to “I’d Like To Teach The World To Sing” – unfricking believable!!!!

    here it is:

    Hot on the heels of Obama’s explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    ‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.’

    WHAAAAAAAT?????????

  346. Boy I tell you, the republicans will have a field day with the above statement from Obama, that is if they can find a video of him saying this stuff. He is just an idiot!

  347. Senator Feinstein is a credit to our county. Why can’t there be more leaders like her, that make you proud.
    ———————————————–
    “Hillary Clinton is well known, certainly she had the popular vote in this election,” she said, according to a transcript. “That is something and that is something tremendous. Now, I believe the [vice presidential] nomination is up to him. I can’t tell him what to do. Nobody else can tell him what to do. All I can say is I agree with [Pennsylvania Gov.] Ed Rendell, that if you really want a winning ticket, this is it.”

  348. meiyingsu Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
    it’s simply a distraction

    A total distraction, fear mongering, and disgusting. It is getting worse, each and everyday.

  349. confloyd Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
    has anyone seen this, its a post from hcsfjm:
    User Name JudiNic

    In Response to Obama wants to change national anthem

    Do you think, that is really true??

  350. There’s a poll at gretawire.foxnews.com/ asking how you plan to vote. Check it out. So far, it shows that 27% Dems may be voting against their party in Nov.

  351. On the campaign trail Obama has railed against Countrywide Financial Corp. and its executives — blaming the firm for “infecting the economy and helping to create a home foreclosure crisis”:

    That was then. Today, ABC News’ Sunlen Miller caught Obama away from his remote controller teleprompter, and asked him how he could “rail against Countrywide Financial Corp. as an example of insiders and today’s economy while your VP search is headed by someone who got questionable loans from Countrywide?”

    Obama didn’t know how to respond:

    “Well, look,” Obama said, “the, the, I mean – first of all I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages, so you’re gong to have to direct — ”

    “But shouldn’t you?” asked Miller.

    “Well, no,” Obama said. “It becomes sort of a, um, I mean, this is a game that can be played – everybody, you know, who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships — I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters. I mean, at some point, you know, we just asked people to do their assignments.

    Oh its going to be a laugh a minute with this asshole, just take away the speech prompter and he goes to shit.

  352. birdgal /marie3548, I think there is probably some truth to it. I think there was some kind of answer when that flag pin flap was going around a few months ago. Its terrible if its true!!

    27% voting against their party, now take that Donna, Dean, and Nasty!!

  353. “I’m following Hillary, because she’s the leader I trust most in the Democratic Party. That’s the best way to help Hillary. Follow her. That’s why her delegates will do as she asks and support Barack Obama
    ———————————————
    Taylor is having a tough time transitioning from a pro Hillary anti Obama to a pro-Obama narrative. Large chunks of her audience wont stand for it and have deserted her. Bots dont trust her because of her prior allegiances. So you get this tortured logic of I love Hillary and Hillary loves Obama therefore I love Obama which satisfies nobody and ignores the realities of the situation.

  354. The VP search / Countrywide hypocrisy is a precursor of things to come. Obama is running a “holier-than-thou” campaign, where he promises to rid Washington of corruption, lobbyists, blah blah etc. First rule of politics: you had better be JESUS if you are going to run one of those campaigns, because there is nothing voters hate and the media loves more than a candidate’s hypocrisy.

    Just wait until the McCain camp starts highlighting each and every Obama staffer with lobbying connections.

  355. birdgal, if this “JudiNic” and others like her continue with those kinds of posts, that site will be rendered irrelevant. The one thing you do not want mainstream voters to think is you’re some kind of Ron Paul supporter. Stay relevant by sticking to the facts and not go over the top.

  356. Berkeley at this rate Obama is going to be running the campaign himself on his own as every staffer will have to be chucked under the bus for their connections.

    Better stock up on postage stamps fuckwit.

  357. Virus alert may be lod news, but for SOME REASON it is making the rounds again. Hmmmmm…

    Meanwhile, Larry Sinclair’s appearance confirmed for June 18, 2008 at National Press Club.

  358. What do you guys think about the kids site? I posted about it, late last night. Shouldn’t there be a law against it? NOQuarter has a blog up, about it.

  359. A nother reason Obama is fucked, they don’t like his wife, well wait until the see the video.

    Male voters have a 45% favorable view of Mrs. Obama and give Mrs. McCain a 50% favorability rating. Mrs. Obama is viewed unfavorably by 44% of men, with Mrs. McCain at 28%.

    The womens unfavourable numbers are bad

    Among women voters, Mrs. Obama is rated favorably by 50% and unfavorably by 40%. Mrs. McCain is viewed favorably by 48% and unfavorably by 29%.

    but this is where Michelle Obama is going to have serious problems

    But 53% of all voters – and an equal percentage of male and female voters – believe that if they are campaigning for their husbands, Mrs. Obama and Mrs. McCain should receive the same amount of media scrutiny as other senior advisors. Thirty-three percent (33%) disagree, with 15% undecided.

    While 86% of black voters have a favorable opinion of Mrs. Obama, who would become the first African-American first lady, only 42% of white respondents agree. Forty-eight percent (48%) of white voters register an unfavorable opinion of Mrs. Obama, as opposed to a 5% of black voters.

    Fifty-three percent (53%) of white voters have a favorable opinion of Mrs. McCain, a view shared by 27% of African-Americans. Forty-eight percent (48%) of African-Americans and 25% of whites give Mrs. McCain unfavorable marks.

    There is a significant amount of people that really dont like MO.

  360. A Hero for US – Gov Ted Strickland Says No!!!

    Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio said no to Obama and has asked that his name be removed from BHO’s list of potential Vice Presidents.

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/oh-guv-shermane.html

    ABC News’ Teddy Davis and John Santucci Report:

    Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D) was Shermanesque on Tuesday in saying that he would “absolutely not” be Sen. Barack Obama’s, D-Ill., running mate even if asked to join the Democratic ticket. Asked on NPR’s “All Things Considered” if he is auditioning to be Obama’s running mate, Strickland said, “Absolutely not. If drafted I will not run, nominated I will not accept and if elected I will not serve. So, I don’t know how more crystal clear I can be.” Strickland was seen by some political handicappers as an attractive vice presidential pick for Obama because he is a popular chief executive and former House member who hails from Ohio, the state which decided the 2004 election. Strickland was also a high-profile backer of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., which would have allowed Obama to present his selection as a play towards party unity. Though Strickland will not be on the ticket, the Obama campaign is recruiting Strickland adviser Aaron Pickrell — who steered Clinton’s successful primary effort in the state — to run Obama’s Ohio campaign in the fall. When questioned by NPR’s Michele Norris if his statement was the kind of insincere disavowal of interest offered by other VP hopefuls, Strickland contrasted his own flat denial of interest with what he has heard from other VP prospects. “No, I don’t think they all say that,” said Strickland. “I’ve heard people say, ‘you know, if I was asked, it would certainly be something I would have to consider.” Despite his Shermanesque dismissal of being Obama’s No. 2, the former minister and prison psychologist said he is committed to seeing Obama elected president. When asked to rank the degree of difficulty of Obama carrying Ohio, Strickland says: “I would say somewhere around 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. I think it’s, I just think it’s a challenge because of the nature of our state.” The audio of the entire interview will be available at approximately 7:00 pm ET at http://www.NPR.org

    PLEASE THANK HIM!

    Ted Strickland, Governor
    Riffe Center, 30th Floor
    77 South High Street
    Columbus, OH 43215-6108

    Phone/Fax

    General Info: (614) 466-3555
    Fax: (614) 466-9354

  361. Any site geared for minors to make decisions without parental consent is illegal! See, that’s what happens when they bent the rules for him on capturing the Uncommitted votes in MI.

    Now, suddenly he has his OWN set of rules (as if we hadn’t noticed “The World According to BHO”).

    How about Michelle Malkin’s article about how he isn’t really a natural-born citizen under the existing laws?

    How in the hell was he allowed to run for the Presidency if he didn’t meet residency requirements? More BENT rules.

    How is he allowed to target kids for brainwashing? This is reminding me of Sir Laurence Olivier in the Boys From Brazil…..can see all those blonde, blue-eyed males lined up now with their flat affect…robotic.

    NEW WORLD ORDER – 1984 (+24 YEARS) PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE

    WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE?

    SURELY PARENTS WON’T TURN THEIR OFFSPRING OVER TO THIS MEGALOMANIAC, WILL THEY?

  362. Idunn:

    No kidding. He needs a Webster by him at all times. May as well carry a student backpack while he’s at it. Needs an Atlas for sure since he doesn’t know basic geography. May as well throw in an American History and World History Textbook too. Come to think of it, instead of donating my extras on these subjects – think I’ll send them to his campaign. On second thought, don’t want to put out that must postage for him. They’re heavy. Required reading apparently he never did. Too busy experimenting, I guess.

  363. He’s the dumbest person I’ve ever heard! Honestly, he can’t string two coherent sentences together unless it’s a prepared speech off the teleprompter. We’ve already had that in the white house …

    TM is a turd .. she rings hollow now. I’m sure she is getting paid as a Bot now.

    Do the world a favor .. don’t post over there or give her place a hit.

    She is not helping Hillary, she is not helping us. She is now the enemy .. period

  364. send Ted a big thank you for saying NO.

    Let’s hope Hillary gives him the emphatic NO as well.

    NOBAMA .. he’s filth.

  365. I have not cried today .. but my heart is still broke.

    BooWitch on YouTube has the best vide .. We’ll Be Waiting For You. Get the hankies but it gives me hope that she is not done yet. I hope to be around to see her sworn in as POTUS. I will work again, as hard as this time, I’ll donate, blog, phonebank and try my best. Hillary leads well and is a shining example.

    Go Hillary .. we’ll be waiting for you.

  366. WoW!!!! That news about Strickland is HUGE. What a stunner! Good for him for refusing to be used like a pawn in Bambi’s bizarre plan for yanking the Democratic Party wildly off course. I just called his office to tell him THANK YOU.

  367. Strickland is a true democrat, we know a loser-democrat that is full of himself/herself will take it on only to get national attention for himself/herself like Claire or Richardson

  368. Another non-endorsement

    An Oklahoma Democrat, David Dan Boren, won’t endorse Obama, AP reports.

    In an interview, he had this gift for McCain:

    Boren, the lone Democrat in Oklahoma’s congressional delegate, said that while Obama has talked about working with Republicans, “unfortunately, his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.”

    Boren, a self-described centrist, is seeking a third term this year in a mostly rural district that stretches across eastern Oklahoma.

    “We’re much more conservative,” Boren said of district. “I’ve got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me. I have to listen them.” He called Obama “the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate.”

    The partisan tide, at the moment, is flowing the opposite direction, so it’ll be interesting to see if the opposite trend emerges: Republicans keeping their distance from McCain, or even backing Obama.

    He’s the second Democrati in a conservative district backing away from the nominee — not particularly unusual in the ordinary political run of things.

    Boren is the son of former Senator David Boren, a prominent centrist who, with Sam Nunn, Mike Bloomberg, and others, attempted to create a centrist movement this cycle.

    Both Boren and Nunn have endorsed Obama.

  369. I have this vision of the future: President Obama has just finished making a speech on TV while America listened. Families and other groups across the nation are sitting around singing “I’d like to teach the world to sing”, while drinking their kool-aid.

    I may take my little family and move them all back to that third world country we lived in until last year. It will seem more civilized now.

  370. Strickland not interested in being Vice President
    – He says getting a Democrat elected as President is the priority
    Thursday, May 22, 2008

    http://www.wksu.org/news/story/22050

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama quietly began his search for a running mate this week, and most short lists include Ohio Governor Ted Strickland. Strickland, says he’s not interested in the job, but is interested in ensuring a Democrat is in the White House. Strickland has been a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton and was credited with helping to deliver Ohio to her in the March primary. The governor says he still supports Clinton, and believes she may be able to sway enough superdelegates to secure the Democratic nomination. Also frequently mentioned as an Obama running mate is Virginia’s freshman Senator Jim Webb, a Vietnam veteran and Navy secretary under Ronald Reagan.

  371. I still can’t believe Strickland dissed Obama like this! Wow! And he’s also claiming that Hillary “may be able to sway enough superdelegates to secure the Democratic nomination”(!!!!) (WOW!)

    ———-
    blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/10/strickland_takes_himself_out_o.html

    Strickland Takes Himself Out of the Vice Presidential Running
    By Jonathan Weisman
    The Washington Post

    Ted Strickland, the popular governor of Ohio and a prominent supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, is not going to be Sen. Barack Obama’s running mate.

    “If drafted I will not run, nominated I will not accept and if elected I will not serve,” Strickland told National Public Radio’s “All Things Considered. “So, I don’t know how more crystal clear I can be.”

    Strickland’s name was high on the list of potential vice presidential nominees for Obama. He would bring executive branch experience to a freshman senator’s ticket, and could go a long way to digging Obama out of the Ohio hole found himself in after he was badly beaten there by Clinton. Obama aides insist they can win the White House without winning the Buckeye State, but it will not be easy — especially with Obama’s problems in another key big swing state, Florida.

    Strickland did say he is committed to helping Obama win his pivotal state in November. Asked what Obama’s chances are, the governor replied, “I would say somewhere around 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. I think it’s, I just think it’s a challenge because of the nature of our state.”

  372. “I’m following Hillary, because she’s the leader I trust most in the Democratic Party. That’s the best way to help Hillary.

    How will helping Obama getting elected help Hillary? I just don’t get the logic behind TM and the nouveau-bots.

  373. filbertsf Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
    “I’m following Hillary, because she’s the leader I trust most in the Democratic Party. That’s the best way to help Hillary.

    That’s the party line. All the bots are using it. Well, Hillary said to do it.

  374. filbertsf Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
    “I’m following Hillary, because she’s the leader I trust most in the Democratic Party. That’s the best way to help Hillary.

    filbertsf…i’m afraid TM has become one of BO’s “stepford wives”.

  375. I thought that Boren had endorsed Obama not long ago? Does anyone have the old news about that. It was a big stick because he endorsed Obama. I remember Okie Atty being pist about it! So the way I read this he is not following Obama???

  376. birdgal, is that why Sandy and TM mouthed the same phrases?

    I know, alcina. I predicted that she would weeks before HRC suspended her campaign. It was just apparent to anyone who was paying attention to her blogs and to what was happening all around.

    So that means we’re not only pariahs in the Democratic Party, but now we’re lepers amongst former Clinton-supporters-turned-nouveau-bots?

  377. ‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.’
    ———————————————
    Remember: never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake. Encourage him to say more things like this. Tell him he is another George Washington, tell him he is the messiah, tell him anything you want except to shut up. He is finally telling us what he means by the word change and we shall see how it sells with the people of this country. If I were his handler I would be tearing my hair out at this point.

  378. confloyd, the father who is not SD endorsed BHO a while agao. but the son who is a SD is not going to endorse him.

  379. wbboei

    is this flag / anthem blaspheme on tape or video? the RW will crush him with that sort of thing.

  380. Hi, Admin and Hillfriends! I’ve been quietly mourning and signing up here, there and everywhere for the “next phase.” Someone mentioned Michelle Malkin’s bit on BO citizenship and I wanted to share this very interesting post from the comments section of that story. Apologies if it was already posted upthread – too much work to read everyone’s comments. Enjoy.
    Link:
    michellemalkin.com/2008/06/10/the-buzz-about-baracks-birth-certificate/#comments

    On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:
    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…

  381. Ok, I get it, but to me this is still good news, I think some are still waiting. How is the world can Dean take her delegates??? I think we should all just stay in stand by without making any opinions of what Hillary should or shouldn’t do. I mean, none knows what is really going on. She may be calling SD’s from home and visiting with them and showing them the tape, LOL!, not, but she certainly could still be calling and talking to them. They also could be talking to her, especially those that belong to the states she won. There is a huge wave of pist off folks in all states! Holding pattern!!

  382. alcina: all I know about it is what I read here. But if it is on television you can be sure the Republicans have got it. He is a real problem when he goes off script. And yes you are quite right. If you are a RW operative this is like manna from heaven.

  383. I heard that Obama was actually born in Africa and moved to Hawaii two weeks later. I don’t know if this was true or not.

  384. filbertsf Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
    birdgal, is that why Sandy and TM mouthed the same phrases?

    I think so. It is the new mantra. I have seen it, on a couple of blogs. They are all saying the same thing, which is the first clue, that it is propaganda (at least to me). If Hillary told me, to jump over a cliff, would I do it? NO.

  385. Ted Strickland– WOW!!!!!

    “I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing”????? Did Waffles actually say that? Are you sure he didn’t say “Lift Every Voice and Sing”, the African-American national anthem?

    Not a citizen? I wish it were true, but I don’t think that argument will stand up unless someone can prove that Obama was born in Kenya rather than in Hawaii.

  386. wbboei, Mana from heaven for the republicans, yep, it sure is, all they have to do is find the tape of him saying this cut it into the prisoner of war video of John Mccain and that’ll do it! The idiots at the DNC can’t see this, and its as plain as the nose on John Kerry’s face. Idiots, all of them!!

  387. confloyd Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
    I heard that Obama was actually born in Africa and moved to Hawaii two weeks later. I don’t know if this was true or not.

    come on, confloyd, we all know he was born in Bethlehem…..(sorry)

  388. Meiyingsu, that’s what I had understood, too. But, I thought this seemed well-researched and reasoned enough to read.

  389. Interesting information on the citizenship stuff. Our daughter was born overseas, in a military hospital with two American parents. I thought she had automatic citizenship, but all we got was a legal birth record from Germany, and a decorative birth certificate from the Embassy. Later, upon returning home, I checked into this again, and went through the process of having her legalized thorugh the immigration office near us. This was in 1969. She and I have been told she could never be President. I only did the immigration stuff in case she wanted a government job.

    The military in Germany said I did not have to worry, but I pursued it anyway.

    So I want to know how he can run for President when he was born in a territory, and one of his parents is not an American Citizen with the proper adult years in the US. I also had been told that one of the parent had to have US residency, and that the child had to also before they turned 21.

    We returned in 71 and on the airplane with us was a young women, entirely raised in Germany crying because she had to spend some time in the US to make sure she got her US Citizenship.

    That really bothered me, as she acted like she hated the USA.

  390. ABM90 wrote: Fox doing its ditr to the clintons.Promoting trailer trash Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers’ new video about their sex romps with Bill. RNC doing its dirt on schedule. Sad state of our political parties.The world is laughing at us and rightly so.

    I wonder what Fox knows that we don’t. TM says that “It’s over” and she’s done checked it out (she doesn’t say specifically but implies that she’s checked with Hillary’s campaign) so why is Fox interested in Paula and Gennifer?

    PS: In case anyone is wondering, yes, I do feel a little dirty from having visited TM. I was just amazed that she was the source for the whole “Clinton released her delegates, fiasco.” I really didn’t see where that fit into the whole “I’m against McCain, I’m not for Obama” narrative that she said she was going to be promoting. Anyway, I was glad to find out that it was her own error in misunderstanding that “releasing delegates” has a very specific connotation that she was not aware of.

  391. NMFan: So I want to know how he can run for President when he was born in a territory, and one of his parents is not an American Citizen with the proper adult years in the US.

    The whole Hawaii is a territory thing is the wrench in the cogs here. I’m more interested in finding out who is responsible for finding out and verifying citizenship in the first place…the Republican controlled State Department? the Democratic Party? Who gets to see Barry’s birth certificate?

  392. PS – it would be even better than Larry Sinclair. And, if the Rep’s get him kicked off the ballot, the irony would be delicious – just deserts. 🙂
    “Irony my shirt, BO!”

  393. The world is laughing at us. Did you notice that the French President immediatly divorcing his wife and marrying someone else was really no big deal.

    Only in American do we spend so much time on the sexual behaviors of our leaders.

  394. New Mexico: He was born in Hawaii, which is a state, and was a state in 1961.

    Tm has been posting awful stuff about McCain, too.

  395. Asked what Obama’s chances are, the governor replied, “I would say somewhere around 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. I think it’s, I just think it’s a challenge because of the nature of our state.”

    ROFLMAO!!!!

  396. wbboei, Mana from heaven for the republicans, yep, it sure is, all they have to do is find the tape of him saying this cut it into the prisoner of war video of John Mccain and that’ll do it! The idiots at the DNC can’t see this, and its as plain as the nose on John Kerry’s face. Idiots, all of them!!
    ———————————————–
    Confloyd you are absolutley correct. And I thought I had a dirty mind.

  397. So what is the legal opinion on this citizenship stuff? I noticed that someone asked a lawyer to respond, but I did not see it.

    If this were true, don’t you think someone would immediately rectifiy this overnight with Congress so the Messiah could continue?

  398. NYC – I agree.

    In local elections and I guess the primary for federal office, anyone can file petitions and anyone can bring a challenge to those petitions, based on signatures, statutory qualifications for office, etc. But, who actually files to place a name on a ballot for the federal general election? And, what if the candidate was not qualified to be on that ballot in the first place? Could Dem opponents have missed or chose to forgo the opportunity to challenge the petitions (time 50) in each state during the primary?

    I guess if BO is technically a naturalized citizen, it could get interesting!

  399. As long as we’re on the subject of anthems, here’s an old favorite that’s perfect for us:
    **********************************************
    We shall not, we shall not be moved
    We shall not, we shall not be moved
    Just like a tree that’s standing by the water
    We shall not be moved

  400. IMHO TM is nothing more than just another “opportunist” & the worlds full of them, we call them latte liberals these days 😀

  401. IiI wrote: Could Dem opponents have missed or chose to forgo the opportunity to challenge the petitions (time 50) in each state during the primary?

    I guess if BO is technically a naturalized citizen, it could get interesting!

    Interesting indeed. We know that the Republicans won’t pass up the opportunity to challenge the Dem nominee. I sure hope that the DNC have asked to have a looksee at the birth certificate that his campaign refuses to release. We also know that attempts at falsifying records will be dealt with swiftly (remember the lookiloos of the passport files?)

    This would go away in a heartbeat if he released his birth certificate and passport files. What is he hiding?

  402. the whole BO movement reminds me of “invasion of the body snatchers”.

    wikipedia defines – The pod people work together to secretly spread more pods—which grew from “seeds drifting through space for years”—in order to replace the entire human race.

  403. perhaps the Republicans have the birth certificate from looking at the passport. Don’t you have to have a birth certificate to get a passport.

  404. I am not a fan of TM now, but is it at all possible that she is a democrat first and while she would have loved to have Hillary win, just wants the democrats to get in in November?

  405. dija, I think you’re being too kind to TM by calling her an opportunist. She’s really just not very bright. She had the opportunity to really amplify her voice and really make her mark on the political landscape, but instead, she chose party over principle and country and then alienated the audience that was making her voice meaningful.

    I’m sure she thinks that she’s sticking to her principles, except that the DNC have made mincemeat of Democratic Principles. Hillary is in an unique position, in that she has to accomplish certain things and in order to accomplish those things she has to roll around in the mud. TM is not in Hillary’s position. Instead of standing behind the “leader” she should be protecting the general and rallying the troops.

    Hillary is our representative, not our messiah.

  406. janh

    in reference to TM’s switch. i know she warned us that she would support the dem nominee, but to flip the switch so fast..no grace period whatsoever is unnerving. like i said above, it’s as if her soul had been snatched away in an instant with no remorse or second thought. just like invasion of the body snatchers.

  407. dot48 Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
    perhaps the Republicans have the birth certificate from looking at the passport. Don’t you have to have a birth certificate to get a passport.

    YES

  408. Wow, is that national anthem quote of Obama’s true? I just googled it and found this:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1918119/posts

    ——–
    “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”

  409. JanH wrote: TM…is a democrat first…just wants the democrats to get in in November

    Sure it’s possible, and probably likely but not very useful to critical thinkers. At this point, I think that the Obama/Axelrod duo controlling the unprecidented powers of the Unitary Executive that were championed by Bush is far far more dangerous than with McCain at the helm. I don’t agree with McCain’s ideology, but I don’t question his integrity at this point.

    What was done to Hillary in this primary season, proves, through personal actions, that Obama and co. are not shy about breaking the system in order to promote their agenda. I’m also not comfortable with what it appears that his agenda is shaping up to be.

  410. what burnt my ass with TM is that she claims “to know” what Hillary wants, not getjust the endorsement of the messiah I mean .. but she acts like she’s got an inside conduit to Hillary. she’s bipolar without a doubt and she is trying her best to get some kind of official blog set up for Waffles with the hope of getting a big fat check. She’s a loser

  411. anyone here rumor that since Gore has been so silent that he is being tapped as the vp. But wlouldn’t that bring up the question of ” more popular votes” again. Gore would garner a lot of sympathy vo ktes and he knows the job.

    “former elected officials” is where this came from

    3 diff groups obama looking at ..

  412. NYCMax: you’re right – it would all go away if they produce the documents – strange.

  413. NYCMax Says:
    June 10th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    dija, I think you’re being too kind to TM by calling her an opportunist. She’s really just not very bright.
    ************

    well i believe she is an opportunist,kind or not….she is looking out for herself only its not about hillary or obama, its about getting on air and getting her radio show high numbers, its about building a name for herself as well as her bank account.
    I am sure Obama pays a good price to FLIP a blogger around just as he has paid to flip Super delegates as well.

  414. Ok, well, first of all, I find it hard to believe (but certainly not impossible that Obama said such a thing.

    But even if he did, no such flub or Maccaca moment has any staying power without the redundancy of the media.

    So it really doesn’t matter what he does…. sad to say….

    Wondering too if a Strickland is out there on his own freelancing or there’s more to his comments, both about VP & securing SD’s.
    Have barely heard a single word – in fact I haven’t heard or read ONE – related to possibly re-opening the contest since Saturday.
    Suddenly the Governor of Ohio publicly turns down VP consideration and
    raises the spector? Hmm..

    Maybe they’re not getting something in negotiations they want, or maybe it’s something else….

  415. Yep, those republicans probably have the birth certificate sitting right on top of the dvd of Michelle’s “hate whitey”, and they are all sitting around having a scotch and a big laugh!!

  416. Yellow Democrats, is how they are referred to. Onces the nominee is decided, they just fold it.

    It reminds me of debates where you can take either side. I guess I am not made that way.

    I look at the delegates, and I am an American First, a Fomer Democratic Second, and my culture third.

  417. House Democrat Announces He Won’t Support Obama:

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/10/oklahoma-dem-wont-endorse-obama/

    😀

    😀

  418. Alcina,

    I agree. I guess I’m just trying to make sense of something that makes no sense.

    I would have thought more of TM if she would have come out fighting and disgusted over what has taken place, instead of what she is doing.

  419. remember the so called “break-in” at the state department when the BO bots were so incensed that someone had breached their passport file? only to find out, others, such as HRC had been broken into? many folks have access to those bcertificates.

  420. I haven’t nor will I start posting stuff about this bogus BO-McCain matchup, certainly not with anything resembling regularity.

    The race is entirely illegitimate, as we all know.
    But I never heard this about McCain, thought others may not have as well; 2 blurbs from C&L;

    “I will use the veto as needed. I will veto every single beer — bill with earmarks,” he said, as rumblings from the crowd could be heard.

    … interesting… to see this report in the UK’s Daily Mail about Mrs. McCain — the first one — who is “seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain’s three eldest children.”

    [H]ad events turned out differently, it would be she, rather than Cindy, who would be vying to be First Lady. She is McCain’s first wife, Carol, who was a famous beauty and a successful swimwear model when they married in 1965.

    She was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam’s infamous ‘Hanoi Hilton’ prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news.

    But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier…. When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.

    Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.

    “My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25,” she said. “You know that happens … it just does.”

  421. Another House Democrat – this one from Florida — announces he will not endorse Obama:

    tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/florida_dem_declines_to_endors.php

    😀

  422. berkeleyvox, how many is that today announcing their non-support of Obama??

    We must stay strong, and no matter what they dig up on McCain, we must vote for him!! We have to think of it as a anti-Obama vote, not necessarily a vote for McCain!

  423. Alcina, I think that was why Obama was so pist when they got his info on his passport!! He has many things to hide and the republicans are chomping at the bit to get them out there!! We are too, wish they would hurry the hell up!!!

  424. Not sure what the total is confloyd, but I think we’ll see more of these “non-endorsement” announcements as time goes on and it becomes obvious that Bambi is unelectable. Party unity, my ass!

  425. Ridiculous blathering from Obama last night, in San Francisco, about his VP process:

    ———
    Last night at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Barack Obama took a question on what he’s looking for in a running mate. “I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not as expert on,” he said, and then he was off and running. “I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more Commander-in-Chief-like. Ironically, this is an area–foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain.”

    [snip]

    “I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college–I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . .”

  426. (quote above was apparently dated 4/8/08) ^

    …confloyd, I’m sure it could affect the nomination if enough Democratic members of Congress continue to blast Obama like this.

  427. Today the two candidates were trying to argue the economy, and it was clear to me that neither knew much about it. I wish Hillary could have been in that conversation, but to no avail, the Dnc cheated her!

  428. OMG, this is now going to get Borrrrinng!! A greenhorn and an old geezer, neither know much about what the hell we need in this country!!!!

  429. In the final analysis any centrist democrat must face the inevitable question of whether this transformation of the party embodied by obama is compatible with his or her own political philosophy and the interests of his backers and constituents. If he or she is a house member then he or she must face those voters every two years whereas the bureaucrats at the dnc will continue to have work even if he or she loses. The implications are obvious.

  430. This is not a joke, I am sick of the DNC and the way they treated Clinton, below is a receipt for my donation to McCain. I forwarded this to Howard Dean and told him, this money(albeit not alot) could be yours but they chose to select a nominee and ignore the will of the people. Clinton is the only candidate who can beat McCain. When you come to your senses then my donations to McCain will stop and the money will flow back to you. Until such time all the money goes to McCain.

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  431. How do you know what sites are OK, and which are collecting your information to give to O or others???

  432. debbie:

    Just saw Cristi Adkins also on H&C. Clintons4McCain.com and justsayno.com. Registered Nurse. Imagine that. She also knows about the horrendous damage to society because of the vast uninsured, not to mention physicians who alter treatment accordingly. Not all, but many. I know, I know, they have to make a living….whatever…they haven’t chased docs down the hall trying to get tests ordered or meds to keep the uninsured alive shift by shift…sad but true

  433. I also hate the idea of a Republican who is for McCain all along pretending to be an ex-Clinton supporter now supporting McCain. Tis the wild, wild west out there.

  434. NewMexicoFan,

    I really wouldn’t know for sure, I think the leaders of that site might have some general idea. they have a media inquires area that you could possibly contact them and find out if you are speaking of the link I provided above.

    g’nite all, Im beat. Thanks for all the great input, it’s almost like a one stop shop. I’m glad we have this place.

  435. I never thought this could happen in my modern day democracty twice 2000 and 2008 (Popular vote ignored).

    Also the complete lack of courage to stand up and do the right things. Everyone says that politicas is dirty.

    It is dirty because we continue to tolerate that it is dirty. If I could clean it up I would, but all I can do it Vote for McCain.

  436. filbertsf, the news channels have all but quit talking about Hillary! The only news is the batting back and forth between Pampers and Depends, it is totaly boring!! Fox is a little more interesting as they are still trying to fry BC for his girlfriends back in the 90’s. Ancient history!! Yawn!!

  437. dot,

    as for taylor marsh, hasnt she had people do letter writing
    to try and get her own tv show on msnbc?

  438. “anyone here rumor that since Gore has been so silent that he is being tapped as the vp.”

    We were speculating about it here last week, maybe two.

    It’s probably where the losers got the idea!
    To bottom line it, they can push Sebelius and Jim Webb, and even Gore, but it doesn’t get them Hillary’s votes.
    And they know damn well they’re not winning without them.

    So ‘they’ can take their trial balloons and sit on’em.

  439. “Pampers and Depends”

    Hehe, expect to see that one stolen from you (if it hasn’t been already)

  440. Obama Says Faith Community to be a Priority of His Administration
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008

    Barack Obama privately met with religious leaders in Chicago today. His spokesperson Jen Psaki told reporters on the campaign plane today:

    Reaching out to the faith community is a priority for Barack Obama and will be a priority under an Obama Administration. This is one of several meetings he will have over the coming months with religious leaders….He’s done it before. He’ll do it again.

    He did it in South Carolina, here’s his mailer(pdf).

    As for who was present at the meeting, it was a combination Evangelicals, Mainline Protestants and Catholics. Among them: [More…]

    Mega-pastor TD Jakes and pro-life Catholic constitutional law professor Doug Kmiec…Rich Cizik with the conservative National Association of Evangelicals, best selling Christian author Max Lucado, Luis Cortes, Paul Corts, Cameron Strang, Bishop Phillip Cousin, Rev Stephen Thurston, Glenn Palmberg and Dr T Dewitt Smith.

    The meeting lasted two hours during which they prayed. The Christian News Network is thrilled:

    This is one more example of how Obama is not just bringing in the ‘religious left’ into his coalition. He wants to bring in conservative figures, too. McCain has some work to do.

    As for anti-choice law prof Doug Kmiec: “Kmiec is pro-life and has come out in support of Obama. ”

    Kmiec served Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush during 1985-89 as constitutional legal counsel (Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel, U.S. Department of Justice).

    Here’s a list of his writings.

  441. If the public knew more about the pressure tactics obama is using to threaten or buy-off these superdelegates it would be a good thing. Surely some of the journalists who have been communicating with them on a routine basis would know. In the alternative there might be some annonomous sources.

  442. So Bambi found some religious leaders in Chicago, hopefully they aren’t the ones we have already seen on the utube video’s>

  443. good grief, these evangelicals certainly should be able to see through the bambi religion!! I know McCain is not liked to well by the churches, but how are they going to get around Bambi’s support of live abortions??

  444. Good point about the live abortions. No one seems to know or want to talk about it.

    As I understand it he actually sponsored legistlation in Illinois? So how can they over look that and talk about Bill’s girlfriends.

    Losing faith in fath fast.

  445. “Obama Says Faith Community to be a Priority of His Administration”

    So is he going to make us all dance around the pulpit singing God damn America?

  446. many latinos i know lean mccain bc of the immigration bill and other issues. remember obama needs 75 plus pct of the jewish votes, must get a very good number fo latinos, win the catholic vote, win women by a large margin, etc.. no dem has been elected without at least 75 pct of the jewish vote. obama is polling 60pct with ews. this is very bad. it will get worse.

  447. obama is having a very bad week-he can vet his vetters-johnson and gov strickland is tellng us all-hey obama get over here and win votes i cant win them for u!!!

  448. The latinos will go McCain if Hillary is not the nominee! Surely the jews will not vote for him, he is very much against Israel. The Catholics will not vote for him because of the live birth abortion, women will not because we are mad as hell. The republicans are still worried about him.

    To day on fox, the made a joke about John McCain not be able to find his car keys. They are going to make out like McCain is too old. Just like me, that Carlton says he’ll be glad when all the boomers are dead!

  449. what the hell are these comedians going to do without Hillary to make a joke out of. They might have to come up with new material!

  450. i dread the day when hillary stumps for obama and has oint appearances with him. i wonder if ti would help matters or harden her supporters against obama bc they feel she is being beaten up and used

  451. when she stumps for him msm will replay the clip of her saying only she and mccain have meet the threshold to be president-which i agree with. heck her whole arguement was that he is not ready. period. the 3am ad hit on this hard. as soon as she comes out this is what they will do. mccain will and is right now on hi website pushing hillary’s arguement about obama. i beleive her arguement. if she goes out and says vote for him after 18mos of saying he is not ready-wont that backlash?

  452. Well Texan, don’t you think Hillary can take care of herself, she no shrinking violet, she tough. If she is made Veep, it will be on her terms. If she has to campaign for him, she will be getting something out of it. She is one tough lady and I don’t think we should feel sorry for her. We don’t know all the angles, but I do know I trust her!

  453. I’m hoping the Republicans will expose how BO got Newsweek in the tank for him – did George Soros offer to buy ads for the next 100 years? Anyway, National Review article criticizing Newsweek’s bias.

    Read the rest at: article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjZjZmI1ODdiN2JjZjE4Y2IxMWEyZjViYjIyYTM1ODU=&w=MQ==

    June 10, 2008 6:00 AM

    Jewish Whispering Campaign
    Anatomy of a Newsweek hit.

    Well, if the Obama campaign says he’ll get Jewish voters, that’s good enough for Newsweek. No need to factcheck. It’s not like Obama lost the Jewish vote by 24 percent to Hillary in the Pennsylvania primary, which has one of the highest concentrations of Jewish voters of any state. (Oh, wait, that did happen. You just won’t read about it in Newsweek this week.)

    If the Obama campaign has this willing a patsy in Newsweek, willing to be spoonfed anything the campaign churns out, and this is all they can say to demonstrate he doesn’t have a Jewish problem, Obama must have a really big Jewish problem.

    — Mark Hemingway is an NRO staff reporter.

  454. I wish people would stop pushing that “Hillary for V.P” crap…that is a defeatist attitude…it’s Hillary for president or BUST!

  455. Man, I can tell George Soros is putting alot of money on his racehorse. He’s had to buy off the networks, the magazines, the house of representative, the senate, all the superdelagates, have i missed anything? So what do you think he expects in return?? How about the North American Union??

  456. I am certainly not pushing for VEEP, but we all know what is coming from the Rezko trial, Michelle’s rant and numerous other things that can happen before November, you know, he might even have to step down, if he is indicted! Lets think about that if she took the vp spot??

  457. Over at Pumapac they were asking ev1 to flood ole ugly Donna Brazilla with e-mails.

    here is mine:

    Hey Donna remember this I think I will take your advice the best you have ever given
    I am one of 18mil MCcain 2008

    From: Donna Brazile
    Subject: RE: Switching to Republican Party – I’m a Hillary supporter
    Date: May 7, 2008 7:48 PM

    Honestly, this is the 9th email today, so I believe you’re ready to not only
    destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights.
    Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non stop tax cuts to
    the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq.

    Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it.

    Please don’t send these emails to working people like myself. Notice you
    sent it to my campus address. I am a working class person. Can you find
    someone who drinks latte?

    Message to the base: stay home.

    Stay home =MCcain2008.

  458. “Obama Says Faith Community to be a Priority of His Administration”

    You know what’s funny about Obamabots? What they hated in Bush, they’ll love in Obama. If Obama wants wants theocracy, they’ll say, “hey, we all need a little God in our life.”

    I wonder how the bots will explain away BO’s pandering to the religious right. Actually, I already know.

  459. marie3548, maybe I should remind her she was going to leave the party if the SD’s decided the election!!

  460. confloyd, I don’t think so. They’ll either dismiss it completely, deem it irrelevant or just say, “look, this is an example of Obama trying to bridge the divide.”

  461. they are on the kool-aid and at an extremely high dose!! It is sad to see this happening again. I remember 00′, when Bush stole the election and was know as the commander in theif, so now we have a nominee in theif. I don’t see the difference!! How can the DNC not be happy with what the Florida legislature has done. The stood firm to get us voting machines with paper ballots and the thanks they got was not being able to pick the nominee!! Ill never understand it!!

  462. Berkley: keep one thing in mind re. new national anthem. Even if we cannot prove he said, there is no way he can prove he never said it, unless he can produce a corroborating witness who has been with him day and night for the past 46 years. Always tough to prove a negative.

  463. filbertsf Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
    “Obama Says Faith Community to be a Priority of His Administration”

    You know what’s funny about Obamabots? What they hated in Bush, they’ll love in Obama. If Obama wants wants theocracy, they’ll say, “hey, we all need a little God in our life.”

    I wonder how the bots will explain away BO’s pandering to the religious right. Actually, I already know.
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    Hypocrites every last one of the politicians…why don’t we call this a slush fund to bribe all the ministers with money for votes. This is why I believe in a firm line between STATE and CHURCH.

  464. here is a email written to Donna brazille , written by a ex dem county chairperson 😀

    1) Acknowledge that NEITHER CANDIDATE earned sufficient pledged
    delegates to win the nomination
    2) The DNC to cease and desist their strong arm tactics on SDs
    3) The DNC to confront insider groups who continue to use strong arm
    tactics on the SDs
    4) The DNC and all Democratic leadership to immediately confront the
    misogyny allowed to run rampant in the MSM and left unconfronted by
    Democratic leadership
    5) SEAT all FL delegates with their votes intact
    6) Seat 1/2 of MI delegates THE WAY THEY VOTED…not giving away HRC
    delegates to Obama nor giving him UNCOMMITTEDs that he did not earn
    7) Allow Hillary to make her case to the SDs at the convention
    8) Allow Hillary to unsuspend her campaign and to run AGAINST John
    McCain much as Obama is doing

    I would add a #9 Donna. I’m very unhappy that you sat on a national
    news program while that Republican thug repeatedly called Hillary a
    bitch and you didn’t utter one word of protest. I’m trying to figure
    out just how one justifies that when representing oneself as a
    Democratic leader. With that said, I think you need to go.

    9) Fire Donna Brazile from being a spokesman for the DNC in this
    campaign given that she has become toxic to the party’s unity

    IF these actions are taken, then much of the blatant pandering and
    underhandedness of this primary will be resolved to the satisfaction
    of HRC supporters. No one is asking for the nomination. We are asking
    to state our case for the nomination.

    Neither candidate has earned the nomination at this point.

    If the DNC is willing to rein itself in instead of BLATENTLY promoting
    Obama to the detrimate of the candidate who earned the popular vote in
    the primary, then we once at the convention, let the candidates make
    their case to the SDs. NEITHER Hillary or Obama has WON this primary.

    It is simply obscene that the DNC has cutoff the process for one
    candidate in clear pandering to another. AND IF the DNC doesn”t allow
    this process to finish, fairly and honestly, they will suffer the
    consequences from voters who are outraged at the heavy hand they have
    laid on the scale of equality against a candidate who clearly has huge
    support from Democratic and Independent voters as well.

    The backlash is real. And it is fully justified at this point. No
    one who is opposing the DNCs actions or Obama’s anointment right now
    is asking for a favor, we are only asking for the fundamental fairness
    which we “thought” the DNC believed in. The DNC and the Obama thugs,
    greatly aided by the unbridled misogyny of the MSM have stolen 18
    million voter’s right to choose.

    Hillary earned a place at the Convention table. Continue to deny this
    fundamental fairness and the party will suffer. Allow the process to
    play out HONESTLY and we will all win. The spin isn’t fooling
    everyone Donna and by the time 5 more months pass, even more will
    understand what happened.

    And don’t blame Hillary for how we feel. Please, don’t send me a
    response threating to “not help her payoff her campaign debt”. The
    crack in the Democratic party no longer has much to do with Hillary in
    all honesty. It has to do with the corruption of the DNC and people
    like yourself who are willing to quash the process in order to install
    an unvetted, untested and weak GE candidate.

    We just want a level playing field. You won’t win us back if you
    don’t change course and many will actively work against this
    “anointed” candidate if fundamental fairness doesn’t return to the
    party leadership.

    Sincerely,

    L.C. Wade, MS/CIS
    former DF-OKC Coordinator
    former OK County Dem ECM Chair

    p.s. and if you think I don’t understand the process, please refer to
    the precinct manual on the Oklahoma Democrats website because I was
    the principal writer of this document and chaired the committee that
    wrote it. It has been used as a model in many states.

  465. Berkeley Vox Says:

    June 10th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    House Democrat Announces He Won’t Support Obama:

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/10/oklahoma-dem-wont-endorse-obama/
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    He’s still going to vote for Obambi at the convention…that is double speak to save him from the wrath of his voters.

  466. Man, I can tell George Soros is putting alot of money on his racehorse. He’s had to buy off the networks, the magazines, the house of representative, the senate, all the superdelagates, have i missed anything? So what do you think he expects in return?? How about the North American Union??
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    Carby: if you can make that do hunt get it to Lou Dobbs asap and we can still have our manna from heaven.

  467. Please don’t let Hillary get pressured into running as Obama’s VP! She is 60. If she helped him get elected, then she’d be 68 by the time she was free of him. That’s the rest of her life!

    Can you imagine having to serve and prop up someone who treated you so badly and is stealing and distorting your policies and making sure nothing is really done! For the rest of your life!

    h t t p : / / http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp — for Hillary supporters who do not want her trapped ironing Obama’s shirt

  468. I keep thinking about Donna Brazile’s words to us – the base should “stay home” is a not-so-transparent message from the Obama campaign that they’d rather the disgruntled Clinton supporters stay home in Nov than actively vote McCain – because while we stay home, they’ll have been replacing us with newly registered Obamabots (aka former Ron Paul supporters).

    I guess, all the more reason to vote McCain.

  469. turndownobama, I can sure understand what you are saying about proping up Obama, but what if he falls victim to the Rezko trial and has to drop out, will they still ask her to be the nominee??? What about the Michelle whitey tape?? The superdelegates could change their minds.
    She will be you enough in 12, that is for sure, but who will be McCain running mate??? That probably will not matter, because by then the country will be in such a deep depression, Hillary will win in a landslide!!

  470. Senator Obama says that I’m running for a Bush’s third terms. It seems to me he’s running for Jimmy Carter’s second
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    Texan: love it. On the Hispanic vote I doubt the Pheglar diatribe will win friends and influence people for bambi.

  471. No way Im staying home MsBrazille, I am voting against your candidate. When I was growing up, my mamma told me that all votes counted and if someone did not count them, that was called cheating!!

  472. The further bambi is behind mccain in late august the stronger hillarys hand at the convention. The implications are obvious.

  473. turndownobama, I can sure understand what you are saying about proping up Obama, but what if he falls victim to the Rezko trial and has to drop out, will they still ask her to be the nominee???
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    I asked my congessman and he said yes. Who else out there is sitting on 18 million votes. Certainly not Gore.

  474. Well Texan, don’t you think Hillary can take care of herself, she no shrinking violet, she tough. If she is made Veep, it will be on her terms. If she has to campaign for him, she will be getting something out of it. She is one tough lady and I don’t think we should feel sorry for her. We don’t know all the angles, but I do know I trust her!
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    Confloyd: very well put

  475. Another idea that would be detrimental to our cause would be the promotion of write-ins.

    Staying home and write-ins = Obama08

  476. If there’s anyone who guys know and/or volunteered with who are Clinton supporters, now would be a good time to call them and encourage them to vote McCain.

    Right about this time they’re thinking about how to proceed. If they’re convinced that Hillary wants us to vote BO, many of them might just do so.

  477. filbertsf – agree. I haven’t verified this, but had heard in diff states that if you write in a Dem candidate, then it goes to the Dems.

    There’s the Hillary supporter that’s running this site writehillaryin.com – hope he’s doing his research.

  478. wbboei,I was reading over on human events, that bush in 06′ met with fox and canada and is desparately trying to line up the north american union. I know Soros wants this, and it still makes me wonder why he would go after a democrat to further his cause, but you know Bambi is gullible and will be a puppet for the puppet masters, so they may think with his background and his unusual supporters they can pull it off. I bet that why the gas prices are high. They want us to deal with hugo chavez for cheaper gas. There are pics of the code pink lady and chavez, it appears they are friends.
    All this money he has been able to raise, its just fishy!!

  479. I also read somewhere that the day Hillary gave her postponing her campaign, that the big shots that want the north american union had a meeting. I thought they said in Colo. (not sure about the place)

  480. I do agree with what Admin said the other day… some Democrats can’t fathom voting for a Republican. It’s easier for them to write-in Hillary’s name than to vote for McCain.

    We all know people who are conflicted at this point. They say they’re liberal dems and will give you a laundry list of reasons why they just can’t vote McCain; then they’ll purse their lips and say they just can’t vote for Obama.

    Poor souls. I feel for them. It is between a rock and a hard place.

  481. Jewish Dem donor joins McCain team

    By Alexander Bolton
    Posted: 06/10/08 07:30 PM [ET]

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is attracting elite Jewish Democratic donors who backed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and are concerned about Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) stance toward Israel, say McCain backers who are organizing the effort to court Democrats.

    McCain has already had several fundraising events with Jewish Democrats in Washington and Florida, say his supporters.

    He also has the backing of Democrat-turned-Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.), who made history as the first Jewish vice presidential candidate and has recently raised questions about Obama’s foreign policy vision for the Middle East.

    Stephen Muss, the Florida developer, is the biggest Democratic donor and fundraiser to pledge his support for McCain and the Republican National Committee, said a GOP official. Muss has given tens of thousands of dollars to help Democratic candidates in recent years, including $80,000 to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in 2000, according to the Center for Responsive Politics and CQ MoneyLine.

    Muss did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday afternoon.

    “Many Jewish Democrats are sensing there is such an existential threat to Israel that you have to vote for an individual who strongly supports the U.S.-Israel relationship,” said Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.), chairman of the GOP’s Jewish Victory Coalition.

    Cantor said McCain held a fundraising breakfast with Republican and Democratic Jewish donors last week at the Hyatt Hotel in Washington, D.C.

    “The playing field is wide open for John McCain as far as attracting Jewish support,” he said.

    Cantor said Muss would help bring more Jewish Democratic donors in South Florida over to McCain.

    “He’s an influential player,” said Cantor. “From my knowledge of his influence in South Florida, that’s significant.”

    Brian Ballard, a prominent McCain fundraiser, said that several major Jewish Democratic donors have said they will join McCain’s camp.

    “There are Bill Clinton folks who for the last three to six months we’ve been pushing to get involved,” said Ballard in an interview last week, referring to former President Bill Clinton. “In Florida there are a lot of people not happy with Obama’s stance with regards to Israel and regards to Cuba. We’re starting to see some significant people come over.

    “Democrats who are traditional large Democratic givers are coming over to our side,” said Ballard.

    Jewish support is especially important in Florida, a crucial swing state where Obama trails McCain in recent polls. Jewish voters make up about 5 percent of the electorate in that state. Florida’s Jewish community is also a lucrative source of political fundraising.

    Jewish Democrats are concerned about Obama’s stance toward Israel, and many big donors from this group supported Clinton. McCain has moved aggressively in recent days to win their allegiance since Clinton dropped her White House bid.

    “Her dropping out was huge in terms of potential for crossover voting and crossover support,” said Cantor.

    Jewish Democrats are concerned about Obama for several reasons. While stumping in Iowa last year, Obama told Democratic activists, “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.”

    Some Jewish voters interpreted the statement as a sign that Obama would be overly sympathetic to the Palestinian side in future peace negotiations with Israel. And some are concerned about a senior Obama adviser’s comments regarding the influence of American Jews on foreign policy. Merrill “Tony” McPeak, the former Air Force chief of staff, told the Portland Oregonian newspaper in 2003 that the political influence of the Jewish community had hampered efforts to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

    Obama has also caused some alarm among Jewish Democrats by pledging to negotiate with leaders of nations that have taken hostile stances against Israel, such as Syria and Iran.

    The growing sympathy of Jewish Democrats toward McCain is epitomized by Lieberman, a self-described independent Democrat from Connecticut.

    Lieberman has launched a new bipartisan grassroots group, Citizens for McCain, to attract Democrats and independent voters to the presumptive GOP presidential nominee.

    Lieberman could become a potent weapon for Republicans seeking to pick off Jewish Democrats. As the Democratic Party’s former vice presidential nominee and a former Democratic candidate for president, Lieberman is assumed to have an expansive list of Jewish Democratic donors from around the country.

    “Joe Lieberman supporting McCain has gone a long way with the Democratic Jewish community,” said Stu Sandler, deputy executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

    “People across the board have had trouble with Obama’s stances and some of the people he’s had around him,” said Sandler, citing McPeak.

    Sandler said that McCain met with a group of 60 Jewish leaders, including “a handful” of Clinton supporters, before a conference hosted in Washington last week by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

    McCain held a fundraiser with Jewish donors on Friday in Key Biscayne, Fla. Before the main event, McCain met with a roomful of Jewish Democratic donors to discuss Israel and other issues important to them.

    As many as two dozen Jewish Democrats who attended the meeting gave money to McCain’s campaign at the fundraiser, which raised about $500,000, said a source close to the event’s organizers.

    Prominent Democratic fundraisers, however, say they have not encountered Clinton donors who are planning to defect to McCain.

    “I’ve talked to a lot of people in the past couple of days and I have not spoken to anybody who was supporting Hillary Clinton and who has indicated any likelihood of supporting McCain,” said Steve Grossman, a former co-chairman of the Democratic National Committee and a former chairman of AIPAC, who raised tens of thousands of dollars for Clinton this election cycle.
    http://www.thehill.com/leading-the-news/jewish-dem-donor-joins-mccain-team-2008-06-10.html

  482. One more thought before I go to bed! The arab countries controling the gas prices want us to be so pist at the repubicans, that we vote for the empty shirt puppet Obama! That’s what is going on, Obama is a puppet and the puppet master is Soros!!

  483. Obama is such a phony:

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    Obama’s Choice of Insider Draws Fire

    By Jonathan Weisman and David S. Hilzenrath
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Wednesday, June 11, 2008; A01

    Last month, Sen. Barack Obama turned to James A. Johnson, a former Fannie Mae chief executive and Washington insider since the Carter administration, to lead the vetting of potential running mates for the Democratic Party’s presumptive presidential nominee.

    But four years earlier, as Johnson was angling for a job if Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) was elected president, Fannie Mae did some vetting of its own. Company executives had grown so worried about the lucrative consulting deal they had cut with their former CEO that they considered enlisting an outside investigator to comb through the deal “in light of issues that could come up during Senate confirmation . . . or White House review of the consulting contract,” according to company documents unearthed by federal regulators.

    For Republicans seeking to tarnish Obama’s image as a squeaky-clean outsider hoping to clean up Washington — not to mention divert attention from questions about lobbyists working in Sen. John McCain’s campaign — Obama’s embrace of Johnson has been a gift.

    “He’s tagged himself as a different kind of politician,” said Republican strategist Mark Corallo. “He’s supposed to transcend party, transcend politics. He’s exploited that more than anyone in recent memory, and it becomes demoralizing to all the starry-eyed Obamaphiles who are saying, ‘I thought he was different.’ ”

    The questions about Johnson began after the Wall Street Journal reported Saturday that he received more than $2 million in home loans that might have been below average market rates from Countrywide Financial, a partner of Fannie Mae and a leading purveyor of the kind of subprime mortgages that spawned a national housing crisis.

    Responding to questions yesterday about that article, Obama said: “I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages. These aren’t folks who are working for me. They’re not people who I have assigned to a particular job in a future administration.”

    But the questions surrounding Johnson’s past suggest the difficulties Obama will face as his campaign expands from an underdog insurgency to a general-election operation. He has little choice but to pick up experienced political insiders — and the baggage they bring with them.

    “This is a game that can be played,” Obama told reporters in St. Louis. “Everybody who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships. I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters.”

    As CEO of Fannie Mae, Johnson, a former chief of staff to Vice President Walter F. Mondale and chairman of the board of the Kennedy Center, was the beneficiary of accounting in which Fannie Mae’s earnings were manipulated so that executives could earn larger bonuses. The accounting manipulation for 1998 resulted in the maximum payouts to Fannie Mae’s senior executives — $1.9 million in Johnson’s case — when the company’s performance that year would have otherwise resulted in no bonuses at all, according to reports in 2004 and 2006 by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight.

    In a 2006 civil enforcement action against Fannie Mae, another agency, the Securities and Exchange Commission, called the company’s 1998 accounting “fraudulent” and said numbers were “intentionally manipulated to trigger management bonuses.”

    Johnson left the company before it was swept up in an accounting scandal that tarred its reputation, but even during the years of scandal, Johnson was reaping hundreds of thousands of dollars in consulting fees and other compensation, $3.3 million in all between 2001 and 2006.

    Brian Brooks, an attorney for Johnson, said last night that the accounting issues at Fannie Mae were thoroughly investigated, and that “no one has ever suggested that Mr. Johnson was responsible for the accounting decisions at issue, nor has he had any involvement with these accounting issues during his tenure as a consultant since leaving employment with the company in 1999.”

    But Johnson is not the only member of Obama’s vice presidential vetting committee that Republicans have targeted.

    They also are preparing a case against former deputy attorney general Eric Holder for his role in the granting of a pardon to fugitive financier Marc Rich in the last days of the Clinton White House.

    In December 2000, as Rich’s lawyers were closing in on the pardon, one of them, Jack Quinn, singled out Holder in an e-mail. “The greatest danger lies with the lawyers,” Quinn wrote his co-counsels. “I have worked them hard and I am hopeful that E. Holder will be helpful to us.”

    Any attacks on Holder will probably not mention that one of Rich’s lawyers, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, went on to become Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff.

    Other prominent Washington supporters of Obama present their own problems. Gregory B. Craig, for example, a senior Obama foreign policy adviser, represented Juan Miguel Gonzalez in 2000, as Gonzalez was trying to bring his son Elian back to Cuba. The incident still rankles the Cuban community in Florida, a pivotal state in the presidential election.

    For now, it is Johnson who provides the most immediate fodder for attack. His lavish lifestyle, multiple homes, personal staff and chauffeur strike a dissonant chord as Obama excoriates Republican “tax cuts for the rich” and calls McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, an out-of-touch Washington insider.

    Although OFHEO said Johnson benefited from the earnings manipulations, the agency did not accuse him of participating in them, and the SEC did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. He ended his term as chairman and chief executive of the District-based company in December 1998, before Fannie Mae reported its financial results for that year. In 1999, he served as chairman of the company’s executive committee.

    A federal regulatory agency suggested that even if Johnson’s compensation for 1998 were entirely justified, Fannie Mae obscured its magnitude, disclosing pay of $6 million to $7 million a year in 1998. But Johnson was allowed to defer 111,623 shares of Fannie Mae stock, a move that was relegated to a footnote and not included in the company’s summary compensation table.

    Total compensation that year was closer to $21 million, according to an internal Fannie Mae analysis cited by OFHEO.

    Anticipating questions about the agreement in 2004, Fannie Mae even drafted question-and-answer talking points, including: “Gimme a break. He’s hiding his compensation.”

    Among Johnson’s post-employment perks were an inflation-adjusted consulting contract of $390,500 that began in 2002, two employees and a chauffeur, and office space at the Watergate, even after he began work at Perseus, an investment firm that gave him his own office. His lawyer described that compensation yesterday as “consistent with what is customarily provided to retiring Fortune 100 CEOs.”

    Johnson was supposed to reimburse the company for 50 percent of the chauffeur’s time, but that did not apply to time spent waiting for Johnson or driving his wife. Consequently, he reimbursed Fannie for about 15 percent of the cost.

    On March 17, 2005, as Fannie Mae was engulfed in accounting scandal, Johnson contacted board chairman Stephen B. Ashley and said, “I should do my part to assist Fannie Mae’s efforts to reduce expenditures at this difficult time.”

    His part was temporarily reducing his consulting fees, which had increased to $600,000 a year and an end to his support staff and driver.

  484. Obama is an idiot, as shown by his quote today in the Washington Post. “This is a game that can be played,” Obama told reporters in St. Louis. “Everybody who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships. I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters.”

    Memo to Obama: YOU started this “game” by making asinine promises about ridding Washington of lobbyists and implementing a holier-than-thou cadre of your supposedly squeaky-clean supporters. Guess what? It was all false hope and lofty rhetoric. As usual, Obama’s record doesn’t match his rhetoric. And when he gets called out on it, he whines.

  485. Washington Post piece, detailing how the DNC’s Unity Event was an utter fiasco:

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    Democrats Still Struggling With Whole ‘Party Unity’ Thing

    By Dana Milbank
    Wednesday, June 11, 2008; A03

    It was billed as a post-primary unity event at Democratic National Committee headquarters yesterday. But the unity fell apart before the opening “thank you all for coming.”

    As 18 elected Democrats filed into the party’s conference room for the show of force, DNC Chairman Howard Dean, evidently not realizing the microphone was picking up his words, took a swipe at Sen. Chuck Schumer, the loquacious leader of the Senate Democrats’ campaign effort.

    “Wait until Schumer stops talking,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid suggested to Dean.

    “That’ll be a long wait,” Dean replied. Then began the meeting.

    It seems that nothing can stop the Democrats from taking the White House and expanding their congressional majorities in November. But give them time. They’re Democrats, after all.

    The famously fractious party is trying to apply wallpaper to the foundational cracks left by the Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton saga. But if yesterday’s unity kickoff is any indication, the party is less interested in rallying around its own nominee than in rallying against John McCain.

    “We have as a Republican nominee a flawed candidate,” Reid proclaimed. “His temperament is wrong, he’s wrong on the war, he’s wrong on the economy.”

    “Today we stand united as a Democratic Party focused on putting an end to the idea of a third Bush term, which we would get with John McCain,” said Dean.

    “In Iraq we have a war without end,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi added, “and John McCain says ‘100 more years.’ ”

    In their opening remarks, Dean, Pelosi and Reid mentioned the Republican Party’s candidate by name 17 times, more than they did their own party’s likely nominee.

    But perhaps this should not be surprising. Walk toward the entrance to the DNC headquarters from South Capitol Street and the first thing you see is a McCain campaign poster (closer inspection reveals that it says “Lobbyists for McCain”). Hanging over the entrance is a banner mentioning not Obama but his opponent: “John McCain = 3rd Bush Term.”

    The negative strategy may have something to do with the need to win over the 18 million people who voted for Clinton. They may not have fallen for Obama’s charms during the primary — but perhaps they can be convinced that McCain is the greater evil.

    That strategy left the leaders making, well, ballpark generalizations about Obama. “He is truly an all-star,” Reid submitted. “If we were talking about baseball, this man can run the bases, he hits for the long ball, he’s really good at picking out singles, he’s somebody that’s a team player.”

    “We can be such an integral part of this team,” offered West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin.

    “We’re all on the same team,” announced Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.).

    The Democrats treaded gingerly around Clinton. Each time her name was praised, the group broke into applause, with the exception of Rep. Jim Clyburn (S.C.), who held a newspaper in one hand and thumbed his BlackBerry with the other.

    “Her knowledge, her eloquence, her stamina, her commitment to the future made us all very proud,” Pelosi gushed. In her eagerness to praise Clinton, Pelosi lost track of what day it was. “Today, in case you didn’t know it, June 2nd, is the 45th anniversary of the signing of the Equal Pay Act,” she said. “We want all of those women who came out for Hillary Clinton — and for Barack Obama, but those especially for Hillary Clinton — to know that the work goes on.”

    But happy words alone may not be enough to win over the disaffected Clinton crowd: women and blue-collar white voters. Hence the need to raise the Bush-McCain specter. Pelosi argued that “women and blue-collar workers, whatever their race, have the most to gain by the election of Barack Obama as president of the United States and the most to lose by the election of John McCain.”

    Dean opened with the theme: “Senator McCain represents more of the same failed Bush policies. . . . Senator McCain has been one of Bush’s staunchest allies. . . . He makes President Bush look like the model of fiscal discipline.”

    Pelosi followed that with a call-and-response routine. “On George Bush’s watch we have lost 325,000 jobs just this year, and John McCain says four more years. On Bush’s watch, gas prices have skyrocketed above $4 a gallon, and John McCain says four more years. On Bush’s watch one in 10 Americans are at risk of losing their homes. . . . John McCain says four more years.”

    Reid followed that with a discussion of “this surreal world that John McCain has signed on to,” where gas prices are high and torture is kept hush-hush.

    CNN’s Kathleen Koch pointed out the difficulty in wooing Clinton voters, who “may stay home and not vote, or they may vote for Senator McCain.”

    “This is not just about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton,” Dean answered. “This is about undoing the incredible damage of eight years of Bush-McCain policies, Bush-McCain economic policies . . . Bush-McCain environmental policies . . . Bush-McCain foreign policies.”

    Dean followed that run with a prediction: “I have every confidence we will be united by the fall election.” Against McCain, if not for Obama.

  486. oh so dean thinks he can turn us against McCain and come running with open arms to obama……..RFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

    good luck with that COWARD DEAN!!

  487. The Democrats treaded gingerly around Clinton. Each time her name was praised, the group broke into applause, with the exception of Rep. Jim Clyburn (S.C.), who held a newspaper in one hand and thumbed his BlackBerry with the other.

    Classless racebaiting fuckwit.

  488. Hi all.
    Webcast with John McCain set up for Saturday, June 14th. Time TBD.
    Everyone can participate via the internet…Access number & more info to follow.
    Questions for McCain should be emailed to MKforHillary@gmail.com

    Any questions: spabeles@patriot.net

    Johann von Goethe
    “Knowing is not enough; we must apply.
    Willing is not enough; we must do.”

  489. I notice that on ClintonDems.com, there’s no link to TM. TM situation is becoming eerily similar to Olbermann. One minute they’re defending Hillary, then they do a 180 and start attacking people who are loyal to her. TM doesn’t attack HRC, but she’s calling us idiots and immature.

    Nice TM. Really nice. It was Hillary folks that gave your blog relevance. You were a blip on the blogosphere until we jumped from DailyKos/HuffPost to you. When you were bombarded with hate emails and death threats, it wasn’t from Hillary supporters.

    People are strange.

  490. well it’s supposed to be People United Means Action

    but it was conceived as Party Unity My Ass.

  491. LOL. Love it.

    HillBill, I’m glad you took it off. TM is dead to me. Of course, unlike the thugs, I don’t intend to write hate emails or send death threats. She’s just dead to me.

    Wait, who was I talking about?

  492. After so many betrayals, it nice to see Strickland covertly say I would have been VP for Hillary but not you Obama!

  493. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_WY29woBxg

    Barack Obama Audacity Watch

    SEN. BARACK OBAMA: “I am not vetting my VP Search Committee for their mortgages. You’re going to have to direct – it becomes sort of a – this is a game that can be played – everybody, who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships. I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters. I mean at some point, we just asked people to do their assignments. Jim Johnson has a very discrete task, as does Eric Holder, and that is simply to gather up information about potential vice presidential candidates. They’re performing that job well. It’s a volunteer, unpaid position. And they’re giving me information, and I will then exercise judgment in terms of who I want to select as a vice presidential candidate. So these aren’t folks who are working for me, they’re not people who I have assigned to a particular job in a future administration. And ultimately, my assumption is that this is a discrete task that they are going to be performing for me over the next two months.” (Senator Barack Obama, Media Availability, St. Louis, MO, 6/10/08)

  494. double talk.

    I can’t endorse Barack because he is too liberal but I will vote for him at the convention and November

    I’ve got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me.” But the son of former Sen. David Boren says he’ll vote for Obama at the convention and in November

  495. meiyingsu, what is that, endorsement is a vote, what idiots, no wonder this country is in shambles!

  496. UNITY

    1. We had a unity party here, organized by the LTG who was for Clinton. I would have thought that the O camp would have stretched out the hand, but NO. (They really want nothing to do with the Clinton group).

    2. One of the County V Chairs who said they would accept either, was over heard leaning into the AA State Financial Director and stating don’t let that B be anywhere near the Ticket. A Clinton supporter over heard.

    So much for unity. You don’t vote for McCain, you are voting for this sick sexist attitude. Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot are having trouble with this, but I do not want this sick sexist racial group any where near the WH. In addtion, it cannot be wounded, it has to be taken out complete or it will come back. HOLD YOUR NOSE AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN.

    People are being accosted for keeping their Hillary buttons ON and stickers ON their cars.

    MY BUTTON NOW HAS A WHITE MARK ACROSSED IT STATING MCCAIN, AND MY STICKER STAYS ON TILL HELL FREEZES OVER.

  497. from politicalware.com

    Clinton Allies Keep Lists of Those Who Crossed Them
    The New York Times notes there are Clinton supporters who keep “close track of the past allies and beneficiaries of the Clintons who supported Mr. Obama’s campaign.” There are “members of the Clinton inner circle whose memory is particularly acute on the matter of who has been there for the couple — and who has not.”

    “As the Obama bandwagon has swelled, so have the lists of people Clinton loyalists regard as some variation of ‘ingrate,’ ‘traitor’ or ‘enemy,’ according to the associates and campaign officials, who would speak only on condition of anonymity.”

  498. Good morning, Hillfans. Make sure to visit NQ today and read TexasDarlin’s “*Breaking* Hillary has Definitely NOT Released Delegates (& Call to Action)”

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/breaking-hillary-has-definitely-not-released-delegates-call-to-action/

  499. meiyingsu

    Those of course are the Yellow Democrats. Maybe we should sent them T-Shirts.

    The other plan would be to have yellow stickers made, and at the convention quietly put those on their backs.

  500. Admin, is there anyway to get a scanned document to Hillary???

    I had the nicest note left under my wiper on my car. I would love for Hillary to see a scanned copy. At the Hillary.com site, I don’t think you can email and attach anything.

    Thanks

  501. A little different point of view that’s been on my mind, also…kids count, too. … a letter to the DNC

    http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/08/1000-reasons-puma-democrats-are-protesting-the-2008-presidential-election/#comment-5626

    #503 islander on 06.10.08 at 3:28 pm
    We care for the welfare of the country and the family over the welfare of the party.
    I and my family have been devoted Democrats for generations, but today’s party is not the party we knew and supported.
    Hillary Clinton is the people’s choice. She won the popular vote.
    Our children are asking us, “If most of the people voted for her, isn’t she supposed to be the one who gets the nomination?” What do we tell the kids?
    When I was a kid, our parents and grandparents told us why the Democrats were the better party. Even the name, Democratic, stood for high principles. That impression stayed with us all our lives. But we can’t tell that to the generation coming of age in the next few years. They are already telling us ”the Democrats suck.” They are telling us that democracy is not real – that it’s pointless to vote because the votes don’t count. That the US is dishonest in preaching democracy to other countries when it isn’t democratic in its own elections. Their first impressions will have a lasting effect, a very bad effect on their lives and therefore on their country, and you are to blame for this.
    We will not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.
    We will not vote for anyone in our states who supported the corruption of the party by ignoring the popular vote, by insisting upon bad rules that exclude voters, by unfairly manipulating delegates, by failing to support all candidates equally, by allowing silly savages to insult all races by irresponsibly calling one another ”racist”, by failing to defend a female candidate from misogyny.
    The Clintons work for the people. Their work for the good of the people is what you should be proud of – as we, the people are. Hillary ran a brilliant and beautiful campaign. We are proud of her and her supporters.
    We will never abandon our loyalty and gratitude to the Clintons. We will abandon the party that failed her, failed the people, failed its principles, tarnished our reputation world-wide, and, most of all, tarnished our children’s faith in our country.

  502. For anyone who may be interested
    I got an e-mail from one of the Hillary Responders:

    Paula Abeles
    show details 12:46 AM (8 hours ago) Reply

    Hi Guys-

    I just got word from the McCain campaign that they’ve been checking this out- hotel ballrooms do not have the bandwith to allow a interactive live-stream webcast—so they will have to do it at their Arlington, Virginia HQ. There will only be about 75 seats. Since it was my idea, they are giving us first dibs & I will allocate first come, first serve, to you guys first.

    Those of you who want to participate from home via the internet—I will be able to get you a reserved space (it seems like about 1000 tops available for technical reasons). So please RSVP to me as quick as you can.

    Whether or not you are able to participate, we are collecting questions you want to ask McCain. Email them to mkforhillary@gmail.com

    Somebody asked me today if I’m for McCain. I think after these many months you guys know my heart. I’ve been very clear with the McCain people about my position, and to their credit—they’ve been respectful of my loyalty to HRC. I heart Hill and I’ll do whatever I can for her to be President. If it can’t happen in 2008; then I am determined it will happen in 2012.

    Some of us may have different short-term goals. However we diverge between now and then, long-term, I want you in the trenches with me making that happen.

    Right now, the strategy that makes sense to me is exploring a relationship with McCain. The first step is asking some tough questions. Then, we’ll see.
    Next week, everything might change; but I don’t think we can afford to wait.
    As one of you pointed out to me today, “the ice cream is melting”. We can diffuse our strength and focus trying to read the tea leaves—or we can take action.

    I urge you, whatever your preferred path, take action.

  503. marie3548

    How do you sign up, and what is the date and time??

    I missed this if it was discussed earlier.

  504. Just received this via email:

    Contact:
    Spokespersons – Just Say No Deal:

    East Coast:

    Will Bower PUMA (202) 365-2536
    Cristi Adkins Clintons4McCain.com
    Diane Mantouvalos HireHeels.com

    West Coast:

    Robin Carlson HillaryGrassRootsCampaign.com
    Thuc Nguyen GoPumaParty.com

    To Arrange Interviews or Focus Groups
    Please Contact:
    Allen Media Strategies: (703) 589-8960
    Andonia Public Relations: (617) 416-4897

    *****MEDIA ALERT*****

    VOTERS RECLAIM THEIR VOICES AND VOW TO “JUST SAY NO DEAL”

    Explosion of rogue grassroots organizations coalesces overnight to form Mega-Coalition: JustSayNoDeal.com

    – Online, in Washington D.C. and Nationwide– Growing exponentially — individually, but infinitely together in one unifying mission — they are Senator Barack Obama’s gravest concern. On the evening of June 8, 2008, dozens of grassroots organizations and political activists convened a conference call and formed a coalition: Just Say No Deal. Its goal? : To turn the current race on its head and remind voters that all options are on the table this November.

    Just Say No Deal is an umbrella organization giving voice to over 80 grassroots organizations, blogs and millions of self- professed PUMAs (Party Unity My A_ _) intent on one mission: NOBAMA! Coalition members are pushing varying agendas and voting strategies, but the factions are united in their unwavering decision to not “fall in line” by supporting Barack Obama.

    Concerned citizens have come out of the woodwork to express their distaste for and frustration with party leaders and the outcome of the nominating process. The Just Say No Deal website offers those voters an array of choices to assist in their decision-making process. The coalition will continue to organize in pursuit of its mission of keeping another unqualified candidate from inheriting the Oval Office.

    LIST OF JUST SAY NO DEAL COALITION MEMBERS:
    writehillaryin.com
    clintondems.com
    swingcrats.org
    hireheels.com
    hillarysupporters.com
    clintons4mccain.com
    hillarygrassrootscampaign.com
    riverdaughter.wordpress.com
    hillaryclintonforum.net
    womenforfairpolitics.com
    donedems.com
    pumaparty.com
    hillaryunited.com
    savagepolitics.com
    seatourdelegates.com
    noquarterusa.net
    liberalrapture.com
    nowewont.org
    shutthefreudup.com
    pumapac.org
    petitionforhowarddeantoresignasdncchair
    petitionpledgetovoteagainstobama
    petitionhillarydontbevp
    millionwomenmarch.blogspot.com
    obamawtf.blogspot.com
    rezkowatch.blogspot.com
    pumapac.blogspot.com
    clintondem.blogspot.com
    fair-reflection.blogspot.com
    bluelyon.blogspot.com
    comealongway.blogspot.com
    reflections-in-tyme.blogspot.com
    mccaindemocrats.blogspot.com
    worstlittlecaucusintexas.blogspot.com
    caucusconfession.blogspot.com
    caucuscheating.blogspot.com
    florida-michigan.blogspot.com
    floridavoters.blogspot.com
    hillaryorbust.blogspot.com
    politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com
    independentsformccain.blogspot.com
    americaforhillary.blogspot.com
    whatsuddenly.blogspot.com
    panmetron.blogspot.com
    typicalpawhitewoman.blogspot.com
    politicallizard.blogspot.com
    nobamablog.blogspot.com
    investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com
    hillarygreenmountain.com
    floridademandsrepresentation
    latinosforclinton.com
    paresidentsforhillary.com
    hillary-clintons-voice.com
    walkamileinourshoes.org
    misshillaryclinton.com
    democrats-against-obama.org
    writeinpartyusa.org
    knowobama.org
    reclusiveleftist.com
    givemehill.com
    helphillary.org
    hillary-wins.com
    sugarnspice
    bitterpoliticz
    insightanalytical
    perrylogan
    paganpower
    4hillaryweblog
    mudanpoliticalblog
    mccainb4obama.com
    citizenpressroom
    justwatchmeburn.livejournal.com
    capitalhillforum.com
    hillaryisourchoice.com
    no-obama09.com
    f-u-dnc
    hcsfjm.com
    lobbydelegates.com

  505. Just left comment to Rep. Charles Rangel’s article filed under RCP about the Dems “Unifying”.

    Not happening. Pointed out that many disappointments over past several months. Some particularly stand out. Like Richardson (Judas), Edwards, Clyburn,and now HIM. He led the NY congressional delegation away from HRC and into Pelosi’s camp when she needed him most last Wednesday. He is the one who abandonded her at the last stand. We won’t forget, and told him maybe he needs to start campaigning for his own seat, like Kerry will. Alluded to eighteen million of us castaways rising like a Pheonix (McCain) and that he is the one who needs to find out “when the end is the end.” Traitor.

  506. Jen @0900: excellent on both counts. Staying relevant and the origin of the tape. Like you I tend to believe it is not a commercia tape but a surveillance tape. If it was homeland security then it was done under federal warrant. If as I believe it was a foreign source then that is different. There is more than one source that would have a vested interest in monitoring the activities of a church with radical ties. It could even have been a joint surveillance operation in which case a federal warrant would be issued. I hope it was done under warrant because that gets us by all the hullablew about spying on US citizens which I might agree with in other circumstances

  507. I haven’t posted in a longtime. I am still pretty stunned by the way our girl has been railroaded, but I am so glad to see people fighting back and taking action.

    Several times I have watched Harold Ickes’ incredibly eloquent remarks at the RBC on Youtube. After several viewings, it still makes me cry, but I feel the momentous power of that speech, and I think it will resonate for a long time – I don’t know how anyone supporting Obama could sit there and not feel guilty and indicted by it. With far more composure than I ever could muster, he completely and surgically dismantled that pathetic dog and pony show that is the DNC.

    I really want to thank him, and all of the other great speakers that day who took a stand. This may have been posted before, but does anyone know their names and a direct way to contact them?

  508. where’s admin? — nothing since Monday — and why aren’t we in justsaynodeal? is this site dying? — sure hope not!

  509. Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs

    (A Political Fable)

    The seven dwarfs always left to go work in the mine early each morning.
    As always, Snow White stayed home doing her domestic chores.

    As lunchtime approached, she would prepare their lunch and carry it to the mine.

    One day as she arrived at the mine with the lunch,
    she saw that there had been a terrible cave-in.
    Tearfully, and fearing the worst, Snow White began
    calling out, hoping against hope that the dwarfs had somehow survived.

    ‘Hello!…Hello!’ she shouted. ‘Can anyone hear me? Hello!’

    For a long while, there was no answer.
    Losing hope, Snow White again shouted,
    ‘Hello! Is anyone down there?’

    Just as she was about to give up all hope,
    she heard a faint voice from deep within the mine, singing . . …

    ‘Vote for Barack Obama! – Vote for Barack Obama!’

    Snow White fell to her knees, crossed herself and prayed,
    ‘Oh, thank you, God! At least Dopey is still alive…’

  510. from TM, last sentence, of last paragraph:

    “But some of this convincing about supporting Obama can only be done by Hillary, coupled with serious outreach by Obama. But to say I miss Hillary not being in the news every day is an understatement. Bridging the current divide between our two camps simply can’t be done without her. It just cannot. ”

    So, I guess, we have to forget about all the hatred, vitrolic comments, biased media, abuse by BO supporters, disrespect, etc., and just join the new team. I cannot do that. It is like going back to someone, who has been abusing you. I don’t do that.

  511. Carbynew: what you are saying makes sense logically. The best way to grease the skids for the North American Union is to marginalize the blue collar people, because they are the ones who would be most directy affected by the massive influx of low skill labor this would create, and will vigorously oppose it for tha reason; Then Dean, Pelosi and Brazille could bring huge sums of money into Party coffers from foreign capitalists.

    Now we have got to come up with the hard proof.

  512. news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/05/aol-straw-poll-june-5-june-13/

    Guess what? The AOL Straw Poll has gotten better for McCain. He now leads by 10 percentage points 55% to 45%.

    I hear the media says he does not have a chance. I guess they did not tell the AOL voters, and let’s face it, the computerized people are suppose to go to Obama.

    Keep Shoving it down our throats.

  513. Interesting that NARAL endorsed BO, considering his lackluster record on women’s reproductive rights. The campaign must of paid the organization some big bucks. This is from the Illinois NOW group:

    From the National Organization for Women in Obama’s home state of Illinois”

    “During Senator Obama’s 2004 senate campaign, the Illinois NOW PAC did not recommend the endorsement of Obama for U.S. Senate because he refused to stand up for a woman’s right to choose and repeatedly voted ‘present’ on important legislation.

    As a State Senator, Barack Obama voted ‘present’ on seven abortion bills, including a ban on ‘partial birth abortion,’ two parental notification laws and three ‘born alive’ bills. In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions.

    When we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass. He wasn’t there for us then and we don’t expect him to be now.” –IllinoisNOW.org

  514. birdgal

    The word I heard is they got big bucks. It would be great to confirm that. Don’t they have to report contributions? If so that should be in public record. The only problem is the schedule they have to report that in, might not be due at this point. We need to start watching the Judas political reporting. It is suppost to be in the public sector.

    We need this information, and we need to make it visible at political gatherings for these people.

    For instance Polosi received $XXX,XXX in donations for her devotion to O. A Large sign

    You got $XXX,XXX pieces of Silver for your betrayal of HRC.

  515. I developed the flu shortly after last Tuesday and believe the stress and sadness of those events have made me ill. Please advise what we are doing to ensure Obama’s defeat….I have written to Wexler several times and get his boiler plate “Obama supports Israel” response.

  516. I don’t think Rangel was disloyal…he could have just waited un til Saturday, but I think he stayed with Hillary 99%.9. Clyburn started the race thing in SC and imo it was coordinated brilliantly with Obama camp.
    Look, even Maxine Waters endorsed him in the end…I actually admire the very few blacks who stuck it out with her….

  517. Hi Hill fans,

    This should give you great comfort knowing we are not alone. This is a movement that is just beginning.

    This is coalition of groups that think as we do.

    http://www.justsaynodeal.com/index.html

    Their press releases:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7S2-AQx-TM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTo-Mknce0
    http://www.enflyer.com/app/file_root/12392/EnFlyers/49667.html

    I expect in the next few days, weeks, we will be hearing more about their collective efforts.

    Have a great day.

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