Big Media Working Overtime For Tool Obama

Bill Clinton gets it and is saying it and we agree with it:

It’s part of the national media’s attempt to nail Hillary for Obama. It’s just the most biased press coverage in history. It’s another way of helping Obama. They had all these people standing up in this church cheering, calling Hillary a white racist, and he didn’t do anything about it. The first day he said ‘Ah, ah, ah well.’ Because that’s what they do– he gets other people to slime her. So then they saw the movie they thought this is a great ad for John McCain– maybe I better quit the church. It’s all politics. It’s all about the bias of the media for Obama. Don’t think anything about it.”

“But I’m telling ya, all it’s doing is driving her supporters further and further away– because they know exactly what it is– this has been the most rigged press coverage in modern history– and the guy ought to be ashamed of himself. But he has no shame. It isn’t the first dishonest piece he’s written about me or her.”

Slimy Todd Purdum was the topic but Bill Clinton took it to the source – Barack Obama. It is Barack Obama that Big Media is working overtime to help. It is Barack Obama that cries “Racism” at every opportunity. It is Barack Obama that gets other people to slime her.

Bill Clinton is also right when he says all it’s doing is driving her supporters further and further away— because they know exactly what it is.

Big Media and Obama (redundant, we know) audaciously hope that Hillary Clinton supporters will forget by November and vote for the unqualified Obama. To that end they are working overtime to push Hillary out, depress voter turnout in the South Dakota and Montana primaries today, and create the impression that the fight is over.

Today’s Big Media overtime push for Obama was the “Clinton Concession” buzz. The Associated Press working overtime for Obama published a story stating flatly that tonight Hillary would concede. The story is untrue.

Yesterday’s Big Media overtime push for Obama was the “Senators Endorse Obama” declaration. According to the fiction writers, most, if not all, U.S. Senators would move to immediately endorse Obama. That story died late last night:

Sen. Ken Salazar joined a small group of fellow undecided Democratic superdelegates on Capitol Hill today, but said they reached no agreement on whether to endorse a presidential candidate as a group.

The gathering created a major stir amid published reports that up to 15 previously uncommitted senators were on the verge of giving a united endorsement to Democratic front-runner Sen. Barack Obama.

That did not happen at the meeting inside the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee offices, where Salazar and the only three other participants left by a backdoor to avoid more than a dozen reporters who staked out the front door.

Later, Salazar said the meeting had been “a dialogue without an agenda” and added he had spoken to “12 or 13” Democratic colleagues in the past few days.

Hillary Clinton, like Hillary Clinton supporters is conceding nothing. We are made of stern stuff that does not crumble.

Clinton donor tells me that on a conference call today with major fundraisers this afternoon, Harold Ickes told them Clinton isn’t planning to drop out. He pressed donors to stay unified, and reviewed tactical options, including challenging the Michigan delegation.

State finance committees are also circulating letters to deliver to Clinton tomorrow in New York, and I’ve obtained a draft of the Illinois finance committee’s letter, being circulated by a Clinton fundraising aide, Rafi Jafri, which stresses a fight until the convention, and a resolution in “August, and no earlier.”

A fight until the convention – nothing less.

Introducing Hillary in Boca Raton, Representative Corrine Brown said: “You are going to count us now, or don’t count on us later.”

Don’t expect our full votes or half-votes Big Media tool Barack.

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  1. after the credentials commitee challenge, the official delegate count will change to 2210

    so…….. no one will be the nominee after today 😀

  2. djia, you are an inspiration with that reminder. I needed that bit of encouragement right now! Thanxs! 🙂

    Admin: Great article, it is very well going to make matters worse and best of all it may make the voters of SD and Montana get out there and vote out of spite. I would and they are not any different than we are. That would be a kick in the buttocks for Bambi, if it actually brought the vote out!!

  3. DJIA, thank you for that clarification (from the previous blog) on the Larry Sinclair thing. I was not sure, and that is why I said it was “reported” that he had failed those tests.

    When I Googled that name, the report I linked was the first thing I found on the subject. If that was planted by the Obama people, it was very effective since it apparently killed the story. Some people would be turned off by that if true. Frankly, I wouldn’t care one way or another, except that BHO scares me to death.

  4. God, I have to look at one more AP headline I think I’ll throw up.

    Look AP – WE GET IT. WE KNOW YOU’RE IN THE TANK FOR B.O. Even a blind man could see it. But continuing to try to shove him down my throat is just going to make me BITE YOUR HAND OFF!

    (Sorry for shouting – I just had to get that off my chest.)

  5. I hope Hillary is using the radio to get out her message out that she is not dropping out so go VOTE!

  6. I try to do my best 😀

    sherm……your welcome, your not the only one i have come across that didn’t see the truth on that story….unfortunately

    personally…..after all i know about obama……..i believe larry sinclair

  7. A fight until the convention – nothing less.
    ——-
    Thanks for the article, Admin. I completely agree.

  8. I switched to watching a movie on dishnetwork HBO2E (301)……i couldn’t stand one more MSM fawning

    so i found this movie ” The Paper”

    Micheal Keaton, Glenn Close, Robert Duvall (1994)

    Two New York tabloid editors come to blows over a front-page story that may be true for only a day

    😀 life imitates art eh?

  9. REPOST FROM LAST THREAD:

    BO and Axlerod are using exactly the same tactics they used to get him into the Illinois Senate and Congress. Eliminate your opponent in such a low-handed way so that you run unopposed. This is just what they have been trying to do with Hillary SINCE IOWA, but she has had none of it, bless her. The only thing left is to manipulate the narrative that he’s won, he’s won, he’s won, especially after any blow-out. So, ignore Kentucky, ignore West Virginia, ignore Puerto Rico, ignore South Dakota and Montana, and just continuously proclaim victory and put out ‘news’ that Senator Clinton is about to concede.

    SHE HAS NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.

  10. So now the AP is interviewing SDs who “privately” support Waffles and counting them. Um, shouldn’t we wait till they go public to count them? Talk about fuzzy math …

  11. Great article Admin! 😀

    Can’t wait to hear Hillary’s speech tonight. This is what I’m thinking we’ll hear, based only on my own hunch after years of watching her, and what’s being reported in the press:

    – she will claim victory in the popular vote, the most accurate and direct expression of the will of the people. she will remind listeners that no candidate for president, in American history, has received more primary votes than she did
    – she will acknowledge that Obama has a slight lead in pledged delegates, and acknowledge that is “where we are,” but will also acknowledge that neither nominee can secure the nomination until super delegates vote in Denver
    – she will point to historical precedent, and the fact that many presidential candidates have gone on to the convention in races that were a lot less close than this one, which is the closest primary in history
    – she will be incredibly gracious towards Obama
    – she will leave the door open and explain that while her campaign may change, now that the primary races are over, it will not end

    😀

  12. THANK YOU ADMIN,

    its times like this that make it all worthwhile.

    here we are, all saying if she drops out, we are still campaigning
    against obama.

    but no, she will be right there with us…
    what a commander and chief she will make…
    HILLARY IS 44 !!!!

  13. GO LOU!!

    Lou Dobbs Tonight
    Tuesday, June 3, 2008

    Tonight, well have complete coverage of the final primary
    contests of the year in Montana and South Dakota. Reports today
    suggested that Sen. Hillary Clinton would concede the
    nomination to Sen. Barack Obama this evening, but the Clinton
    camp has vigorously denied that claim. Plus:

    * This has been the most expensive election season in history,
    and, as usual, a lot of the money is coming from lobbyists.
    Sen. Obama has refused money from lobbyists, but still is
    willing to take their advice on areas for which they lobby.
    Sen. McCain says he will take lobbyist money, but not their
    advice. But many of his campaign staffers came from lobbying
    firms.

    * The mayor of a Mexican town was shot dead earlier this week
    in one of the latest cases of drug cartel violence. A new poll
    conducted by a Mexican newspaper finds that 53 percent of
    Mexicans believe the drug cartels are wining the drug war.

    * What does it mean to be an American? Most Americans believe
    our national identity can be concretely defined, but six in ten
    believe that American identity is weakening, according to a new
    report.

    * Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke today made more
    negative predictions for the U.S. economy, saying that home
    prices and the global credit crunch will continue to pose risks
    to the economic wellbeing of everyday Americans. Well have a
    look at the economy that the next president will inherit.

    Lous new radio program, the Lou Dobbs Show, debuted in March.
    Join us weekdays from 3-6 p.m. Eastern, for a look at news and
    politics aimed at independent thinkers. Check your local
    listings at LouDobbsRadio.com, or listen live online.

    Today: Weve reached the end of the fight for the Democratic
    nomination  or have we? Joining Lou will be Democratic
    strategist Hank Sheinkopf and New York Daily News columnist
    Errol Louis. And Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren will come
    by to discuss the war on this nations middle class and what we
    can do to take back our country. And, as always, well be
    taking your calls  1-877-55-DOBBS.

  14. This is from TalkLeft: Jeralyn:

    The AP, which still has egg on its face from this morning’s false report that Hillary would concede to Obama, does it again.

    The AP is sending out a breaking news report, complete with post-mortem analysis, that Obama has reached the magic number and is officially the nominee.

    Votes are cast at the convention in August. Superdelegates can change their mind any time before then. If this went to an open convention, even pledged delegates would be released from their pledge after the first vote.

    This does not mean it’s going to the convention. It means that until one candidate drops out, there can be no winner because the number of delegates that candidate has can change any time until the convention.

    Until and unless Hillary Clinton publicly suspends or ends her campaign and concedes that Obama is the nominee, there is no nominee. There is only a statement that if current delegate positions at this moment were frozen in time until August he would be the nominee.

    If and when Hillary makes that determination, then Obama will be the nominee. At that point TalkLeft will congratulate him and offer him our support. We’re not there yet.

    talkleft.com/

  15. Action Alert! CONTACT THIS SUPERDELEGATE TODAY!

    Tallahassee Democratic activist Jon Ausman – the man at the center of the fight to reinstate Florida’s presidential nominating convention delegates – will endorse a candidate at 2:30 this afternoon.

    Ausman, a state employee, said he still hasn’t decide whether it will be Sen. Barack Obama or Sen. Hillary Clinton. He’s holding a news conference outside his office in Tallhassee because he set himself a 3 p.m. decision to make a choice.

    Jon Ausman
    (850) 386 – 1387
    ausman@embarqmail.com

    TOGETHER, WE WILL WIN!

    Stay updated: http://www.hillaryresponders.com

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  16. In my mind, tolerating today’s faux victory party by Obama and big media is the equivalent to riding out a thunderstorm. Stay inside, light some candles, and remember that tomorrow will be a new day with brighter skies. As much as I dislike Dick Morris, he summed up the situation perfectly: “The Democrats are the party of victory in this election, but they can’t win with Obama, because he’s now a fatally flawed candidate.”

  17. BerkeleyVox, This came for Dick the Pr&^k Morris???? Wow! He must have just seen the video LOL!! I know this man is fatally flawed, WTH is wrong with the SD’s, of coarse maybe since there has not been this stampede, maybe they are remembering the cajolnes??

  18. Thanks for the recap on the previous thread. I repeat:

    NO ONE HAS 2118! NO ONE WILL HAVE 2118 BEFORE THE CONVENTION!

    The media, the DNC, the Obama campaign or even the SD’s can blather on all they want, but “the rules” don’t give SD’s any substance as “pledged delegates” until they vote at the convention. Repeat this very simple fact on EVERY BLOG!

    Hillary MUST go all the way to Denver!!!

  19. I am packing for my trip to the big city of Austin to vote for the only TRUE candidate in this race. The act of packing is helping with my nerves!!

  20. the way the BHO camp do today may give enough reasons for Hillary go all the way to Denver.

  21. today, with AP and BO and they’re FAUX NEWS releases

    is nothing more than FEAR!!!

    fear of what may you ask???

    FEAR OF WHITEY TAPE BEING RELEASED

    it’s nothing more than an attempt to control the MSM narrative to over shadow the “WHITEY-GATE”

  22. Exactly, confloyd. Dick Morris said this yesterday, so yeah, I’m sure he’s aware of the Michelle-at-Trinity video. And he’s a savvy-enough political operative to know how strong McCain’s hand is going to be against Obama. His point was basically that this election was the Democrats’ to lose, and they could only lose it if (a) they nominated a far-left-wing candidate who doesn’t have mainstream views (Obama) and (b) the Republicans nominated someone who can win swing-voters and moderates (McCain).

    The one thing I’ll give Obama credit for is his massive fundraising. (Although Hillary is no slouch either — second best $$ total in history, even adjusted for inflation, just barely behind Obama.) But while every campaign needs money in order to be able to win, it’s also true that no amount of money can prop up a fatally-flawed candidate. Go ask Malcom Forbes or Ross Perot!

  23. one thing we can look forward to is after the tape comes out tomorrow, we will be able to blog for Bambi to get out of the race to save the party the embarassment of a landslide loss! 🙂

  24. …er, meant to say, “…how strong McCain’s hand is going to be against Obama, if Obama were to be the nominee.” (Which he ain’t 😉 )

  25. BV, Did you watch the Beckel video? He said, as you did, that the GOP wanted to wait till Waffles had the nomination to release it.

  26. Berkeley – exactly. Case in point: Obama has outspent Hillary in most of the races where Hillary won landslide victories.

    Confloyd – good luck in Austin! Travel well!

  27. Thanx, I am ready to fight like hell! I have told the family to answer every call, in case i get in trouble LOL!!

  28. I just answering Filbertsf when I realized there was a new thread. Repost:

    # CountTheVotes Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    exactly, filbertsf –

    I mean what better way to get the goods on the Clinton campaign than to have “journalists” embedded. Fouhy’s from New York – though she mine as well be part of the Chicago cabal who are likely bought and paid by BO. I cannot wait for the GE to be over, for the Republicans to help uncover this media conspiracy, and to read the investigations on the media- I have no doubt that there will be a new Chicago 7 when this is all said and done.

    I just hope the voters are smart enough – I am disheartened that this probably cost Clinton thousands of voters.

  29. confloyd and others,

    The pocket cell phone I used at a gathering is labeled ‘Olympus’ VN-4100 PC . Got it at a local Radio Shack for maybe $50 or $60 or maybe less.

    What’s great is that it doesn’t depend on voice activation which can be undependable; it can store like 12 hours at a time! So I pushed one button to turn it on as I walked in the door, then turned it off after I left.

    To edit it you upload it to a computer as a sound file.

    It’s very secure. This is the first time I’ve succeeded in taping different people at different distances, speakng soft or low, etc etc.

  30. When Jimmy Carter passed the delegate number in the 1980 primary race, Ted Kennedy let everyone know the race was still on. “The people have decided that this campaign must go on,” he declared. “The people have decided that what counts is not the quantity of delegates, but the quality of their lives.”

  31. Does anyone remember that precedence when they called the Presidential race before California finished voting and it suppressed the vote terribly? Does anybody remember who the candidates were?

  32. Yeah, I saw that Beckel video, Paula. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. There is about to be a HUGE ONSLAUGHT against Obama by the Republicans, which they haven’t done to date. They want to define him early. They want to show how all his talk about “unity” is a charade, and demonstrate how divisive he really is (racist church, no track record of bipartisanship, ripped the Democratic party asunder across racial lines, poor judgment, etc.)

    Sure, there have been whisper campaigns on the internet about Trinity, Ayers, etc., and the press is reporting the stories, but once the Republicans themselves begin making an issue of these facts, the coverage will be much, much bigger. Obama will be forced to address these issues in a way that he hasn’t.

  33. Personally I hope the whitey video doesn’t actually come out for a long time, just gets talked about.

    “Wait one more day till we know what’s really on that video,” is a good way to keep the chickenbots quiet while we give facts to the rational undecided SDs.

    Remember “The DNA results aren’t back yet!”

  34. Ausman goes to HRC.

    palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2008/06/03/surprise_fl_superdelegate_to_c.html

  35. Yesssssss!!!! Time to email Ausman a big thank-you, and keep him happy until Denver 😀

  36. The two AP “breaking news” stories this morning has me livid.

    There’s a scene from And the Band Played On in which a group of doctors and blood bank executives discuss and put to the vote whether the FDA should require that blood banks screen donors for the hepatitis virus. The voted unanimously to turn down the proposal.

    One doctor leans over to his colleagues at the roundtable and says, “When doctors start acting like businessmen, who do the people turn to for doctors?”

    That’s how I feel right about now with the media. When news organizations start acting like a propaganda organization, who do the people turn to for the news?

  37. Good grief! Morris admitted that????

    As much as I dislike Dick Morris, he summed up the situation perfectly: “The Democrats are the party of victory in this election, but they can’t win with Obama, because he’s now a fatally flawed candidate.”

  38. I have got idea, we need to organize a protest of anti-obama people outside the convention. I found out that a lot of people protest at the convention every year, so we should get that done so the SD’s and regular delegates know how American feels about Obama! What do you all think?

  39. confloyd Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    1950 are you talking about a cell phone or a tape recorder?

    =================

    Tape recorder. It’s about half the width of a ‘candy bar’ cell phone, and very lightweight.

  40. Agreed, confloyd, except that I think the focus of the protest should be pro-Hillary, and, as you mention, “a lot of people protest at the convention,” so in order to stand out, we would need to be HUGE.

    And with 18 million supporters, I don’t think that would be hard to accomplish. If we all agreed to go to Denver, and bring as many friends and supporters with us as we could, the impact would be historic and undeniable.

  41. There are two tape recorders I am looking at tonight? One that uses a actual tape and one that holds the info some way. I am borrowing them so I will wait until tonight!

  42. Wexler greeted with hostility from his retiree-constituents over his support for Barack Obama
    > Posted by Anthony Man at 12:45 PM

    U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler is normally a crowd favorite at Wynmoor Village, the Coconut Creek bastion of retiree voting strength for him and the Democratic Party.

    Appearing there today, Wexler encountered a restless crowd, hostile to their congressman over his support for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

    His comments – as well as those for his state Senate colleague, Jeremy Ring – were interrupted several times by jeers and scattered boos. It’s a phenomenon that Ring said he’s never seen – except when President Bush’s name came up.

    After lengthy remarks from Wexler, which were dominated by a defense of Obama’s credentials on Israel, he encountered some sharp questions, and had to leave to catch a flight to Washington, D.C., further agitating some who didn’t get to raise their own points.

    Wexler blasted the Democratic National Committee, for its decision last year to take away all of Florida’s delegate votes. “That was wrong. It was in my mind disrespectful of the right of Floridians to vote. It was immoral.”

    He depicted the half restoration on Saturday as a victory for Florida voters – which prompted the first of several audience interruptions.

    Expecting Obama to become the party’s nominee, Wexler said he would press his candidate to go even farther, and give Florida delegates full voting strength at their national convention.

    On Israel, a key issue to Wynmoor voters, Wexler said they should have no doubt about Obama.

    “I do not engage in a campaign if somebody is simply good on Israel or somebody is simply sympathetic. I engage only if a person has an A-plus record.”

    He added that all the other reasons Wynmoor Democrats favor Clinton should convince them to support Obama. Example: “If you support Hillary Clinton, then how is it even conceivable that you might support a man, John McCain, that is opposed to a woman’s right to choose.”

    Before Wexler spoke, Ring brought up something else that has many of the Wynmoor Democrats mad: the weekend decision by a Democratic National Committee panel to grant Florida’s convention delegates only half a vote each. It was a move to resolve the controversial Florida primary, which the national party initially didn’t want to count at all because its Jan. 29 date was earlier than party rules allow.

    When Ring repeated what the national Rules and Bylaws Committee did, the crowd responded with boos. One woman yelled, “It’s not fair.”

    The crowd sentiment was clear when Ring told the 250 people that, “I recognize that this is Hillary Clinton territory, primarily. I recognize that.” The crowd applauded, and he continued. “Hang on, hang on, hang on. Realistically, matter of factly, more than likely, the nominee will be Barack Obama.”

    The crowd booed, prompting Ring to explain he wasn’t for Clinton or Obama.

    “I voted for Joe Biden,” he said. “I’m just speaking pure matter of fact right now.”
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  43. I forget how many delegates Texas has, but it has alot. THe Chair has endorsed Obama, so we have much work to do. I hope we can get this protest going. Does anyone live near Austin that we can contact that is a Hillary supporter?

  44. 1950 Democrat, yep, that was Dick Morris, in a story I read yesterday. I’m quoting from memory, so don’t hold me to the exact wording, but the gist was that the Democrats have done the unthinkable by nominating someone who can’t win.

  45. Yay for Ausman!

    I can’t get NoQuarter to come up. I have no reason to think it’s been hacked; I think the problem has more to do with my slow Internet connection.

    Some thoughts on the Republicans and “Whitey”… If they’re considering the future of the GOP as a whole rather than what’s best for the McCain campaign, it’s wise to release that anxiously-awaited tape now. They can use it as ammunition on many levels. For example, let’s say in U.S. Congressional District X there’s an Obamabot up for reelection. The GOP can attack this Democrat as un-American, as un-Christian (remember, we’re talking about Repubs here), as someone who doesn’t care about voters, as someone who defended Obama when (pick your scandal) hit the fan. If you live in one of these congressional districts, be prepared for GOP candidates wearing big flag pins while “God Bless the USA” plays in the background. Multiply this by a few hundred, all across the nation. So even if Obama gets knocked out of contention before August, “Whitey” and similar weapons of mass destruction can help the Repubs down-ticket– and they will want to control Congress if Hillary is in the WH. That’s how I see the situation as it exists now.

  46. Confloyd, have fun in Austin. You’ll love the Hillary supporters there. But I’ll caution you with the BO folks. They’re as thuggish as they are in any other parts of the country.

  47. “Expecting Obama to become the party’s nominee, Wexler said he would press his candidate to go even farther, and give Florida delegates full voting strength at their national convention.”

    WHAT – is he going to give them full voting strength when the lights have turned off and the janitors are cleaning out the Convention center?

  48. confloyd Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    There are two tape recorders I am looking at tonight? One that uses a actual tape and one that holds the info some way. I am borrowing them so I will wait until tonight!
    =======================

    If it doesn’t use an actual tape (tapes are undependable and a hassle), then the only other kind I know holds the info as ‘digital’, like a computer voice file. That’s the kind I have, which is great.

  49. Great article:
    White Women Take the Gloves Off
    By Froma Harrop

    The woman who shouted “McCain in ’08” at the Democratic rules committee was speaking for a multitude. After mounting for months, female anger over the choreographed dumping on Hillary Clinton and her supporters has exploded — and party loyalty be damned. That the women are beginning to have a good time is an especially bad sign for Barack Obama’s campaign.

    “Obama will NOT get my vote, and one step more,” Ellen Thorp, a 59-year-old flight attendant from Houston told me. “I have been a Democrat for 38 years. As of today, I am registering as an independent. Yee Haw!”

    A new Pew Research Center poll points to a surging tide of fury, especially among white women. As recently as April, this group preferred Obama over the presumptive Republican John McCain by three percentage points. By May, McCain enjoyed an eight-point lead among white women.

    What’s dangerous for the Democratic Party is that, for many women, the eye of the storm has moved beyond Hillary or anything she does at this point. The offense has turned personal.

    They are now in their own orbit, having abandoned popular Democratic Websites that reveled in crude anti-Hillary outpourings — and established new ones on which they trade stories of the Obama people’s nastiness.

    But worse than the online malice has been the affronts to their faces.

    Tara Wooters, a 39-year-old mother from Portland, Ore., told me that wearing a Hillary sticker around town has become an act of defiance. She recalls one young man telling her, “I’d rather vote for a black man than a menopausal woman.”

    “We don’t hurl insulting, berating remarks at Obama supporters, or at Obama himself or his family,” Debbie Head, a 40-year-old from Austin, Texas, complained to me.

    Remember Peggy Agar? The women do. They can’t stop talking about the Detroit TV reporter who asked Obama a serious question at a Chrysler factory — “How are you going to help American autoworkers?” — to which he answered, “Hold on a second, sweetie.”

    The women are angry at the ludicrous charges of racism leveled against Clinton by the Obama camp — amplified in the supposedly respectable media — and projected onto themselves.

    Jean B. Grillo, an “over 50” writer in lower Manhattan, was pretty straightforward: “I am so tired as a white, ultra-liberal, McGovern-voting, civil-rights marching, anti-war fighting highly educated professional woman who totally supports Hillary Clinton to be attacked and vilified as racist and or dumb.”

    Shauna Morris, a 44-year-old lawyer from Largo, Fla., told me, “I am upper-middle class, and I still can’t stand him — and it has nothing to do with race, believe me.”

    The women talk of being taken for granted by a party leadership that never spoke out on some of the outrageous Hillary bashing — and despite the close race, joined the early rush to crown Obama.

    “Many of us feel slighted,” said Lynn Eyrich Harvey, 76, from Los Gatos, Calif. “We feel that years of supporting the party is unimportant, that we are to sit down and shut up — but be sure to vote Democratic in November.”

    Passions can change, one supposes, but the women I hear from do not see the rampant sexism, particularly toward older women, as isolated gaffes but as a systemic dismissal of them — an enormous voting bloc that has been reliably Democratic.

    “How Obama’s campaign has treated Hillary will not be forgotten,” Janet Rogers, 55, who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Medina, Ohio, wrote me. “I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. My husband and friends all feel the same way.”

    Indeed. McCain in ’08 has suddenly become a more likely prospect.

  50. Jen, the noquarter website has been overloaded by visitors today (everyone wants to hear about the Michelle-with Fahhrakan video), so their server is just realllllllllllllllly slow right now.

  51. Berkeley Vox Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    1950 Democrat, yep, that was Dick Morris, in a story I read yesterday. I’m quoting from memory, so don’t hold me to the exact wording, but the gist was that the Democrats have done the unthinkable by nominating someone who can’t win.

    ===========================

    But but???? Isn’t Dick Morris the person Obama sent to Kenya to help his cousin’s campaign???

  52. confloyd, I think kaffey and ininla, who both used to post here, might know people or people who have email lists of people in Austin. Sadly, neither posts here anymore.

  53. A lot of misinformation in the video about negotiations between Hillary and B.O. Here is the Beckel video for those having trouble accessing it:

  54. Ok 1950, I will look at the tapeless one tonight. MY Party people will have a laptop, so if I can’t find one to borrow, I will get a few comments to you guys from there’s.

    I really believe this Texas Convention could be a nasty one, since the DNC rules, the bamboozling by Bambi and associates.

    Filbertsf, I can tell you I will not back down from those nasty supporters of BO’s and will tape and film every last one of them!

    Thanxs everyone for your encouragement!

  55. I have been posting my email addy here in attempts to organize those of us here that will go to denver

    please……..email me!!!

    luvcowboys63@yahoo.com

    I will then invite you to a private email list to discuss going to denver ……and anything else you want to discuss 😀

  56. 1950democrat wrote:

    But but???? Isn’t Dick Morris the person Obama sent to Kenya to help his cousin’s campaign???

    ————

    I hadn’t heard that! Hehe, wow. Yeah, Morris is a hired-gun political operative. He’s never going to win any citizen of the year awards, and his bad blood with Hillary has been well documented, but he’s fairly knowledgeable. Like any operative, he’s a bit of an opportunist, and goes with whichever way the wind is blowing: last year, he said Hillary couldn’t lose, and then he did a 180 and said Obama couldn’t lose, and now he’s saying that Obama can’t win. Well, at least that proves which way the wind is currently blowing, and it’s at our backs!

  57. you know what?
    i’ve come to believe that for axelrod, obama and the others of the
    chicago machine, this has been nothing but business as usual.
    for that reason, i can almost understand that they are just being
    who they are.

    on the other hand, the democrats in congress and positions of
    authority, HAVE ALOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO !

    we need to know, why all these pillars of the democratic party,
    has been involved in taking down the only 2 term dem president in recent history, and the pillar of our democratic party today.

    we must have answers, and i would like to ask anybody out there,
    is there anyone who has a list of every known major obama supporter, not from the great state illinois?

    do we have a list?
    to quote santa clause:
    we need to start making a list, and checking it twice,
    need to find out whose been naughty or nice…

    its what the obamabots have been doing all along, hitting the list.

  58. jbstonesfan

    Interesting that Wexler would bring up choice….when he and BHO supporters have done everything they can to deny us ours.

  59. June 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    djia Says:

    “jimmy carter to endorse after the polls close………. is anyone surprised???”

    *

    Of course not: OBAMA IS RUNNING FOR JIMMY CARTER’S SECOND TERM!

  60. OBAMA GETS:

    –House Members (3.5): South Carolina Rep. John Spratt, Michigan Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick*, Massachusetts Rep. John Olver, South Carolina Rep. Clyburn.

    –DNC supers (3.5): New York’s Ralph Dawson, Michigan’s Joyce Lalonde*, Michigan DNC members Debbie Dingell* and Rick Wiener,* Maine’s Jennifer Dechant, Massachusetts’ Deb Kozikowski.

    –State legislators (2): Ohio House Democratic Leader Joyce Beatty, Missouri Rep. Maria Chappelle-Nadal.

    Obama campaign count: 30.5 delegates to go for the nomination.

    Today’s Tally: Obama 10, Clinton 0
    *Michigan, Florida supers get half a vote.

    What is this??????????????????

    Superdelegates going for Obama – 10 of them!!! And none for Hillary?

    I really think DNC does not want to win the presidency or that they are under some kind of a spell believing that Obama will win the presidency.

  61. Here is an article that talks about the misadventure of Dickey boy in kenya:

    blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/11/bridges-burned.html

  62. May be SD want to jump on the band wagon to please AA and then if MO tape comes out they could have the excuse get off the bandwagon. They could have it both ways.

  63. hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/another-possibility-for-what-michelle.html

    Tuesday, June 3, 2008
    Another Possibility For What the Michelle Obama Bombshell Could Be: June 26th 2004

    We’re seeing on various boards another possibility for what the Michelle Obama Rant Video could be, and this one is from 2004, at a panel discussion Michelle Obama participated in when Barack Obama was running for his Illinois Senate seat.

    At this event, Michelle was there with Mrs. Farrakhan, Louis Farrakhan’s wife, and not with Farrkhan himself. The confusion could be related to the fact that someone just typed “Farrakhan” without adding the Mr. or Mrs. and people just assumed it was Louis Farrakhan and not his wife.

    The event was the June 26th, 2004 Rainbow/PUSH Coaltion’s 33rd Annual Conference, held in Chicago.

    Some of the attendees at the event were:
    (1) Michelle Obama, wife of then-US Senate candidate Barack Obama
    (2) Mother Khadijah Farrakhan, wife of Minister Louis Farrakhan
    (3) Mrs. James Meeks, wife of Rev. James Meeks

    Note: The timing of this event is really interesting, because it was on June 26th, 2004, the month before the Democratic Party opened its Convention in Boston (where Barack Obama would give the keynote address on July 27th, which first introduced him to a national audience). So, this panel discussion Michelle participated in occured before Obama was a household name – and thus before national media was paying any attention to what Michelle Obama was doing.

    It’s highly unlikely any mainstream press attended the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition’s 33rd Annual Conference, so it’s very plausible Michelle Obama could have felt perfectly comfortable launching into an explosive rant there, without fear of her words being immediately made public (as opposed to her doing something like this after her husband was a known entity on the national stage, where she would, we assume, be more restrained with her opinions). Ironically, it seems June 26th would have been the very last possible event at which Michelle could have done something like this, in relative anonymity.

    Barack Obama delivered his keynote address in Boston on July 27th, 2004, with Michelle Obama in attendance. Having her chance to speak in a public forum before her husband was scheduled to speak on national television may have inspired Michelle to deliver a memorable address of her own at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference.

    UPDATED: Post updated to correct the date of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference. It was held June 26th-July 1st, not July 26th.

  64. Hey All – please go the HC website and contact the campaign ATTN: Harold Ickes and tell her to take it to convention. They need to hear from us.

  65. DJIA,

    heres an idea, if we had a crash pad or a piece of land we could camp
    on, that would help people who cant really afford to go to den…
    and if we start a bus fund, in all the major cities, we could hire
    some busses to go to denver…

    does anyone know a few good democrats in denver, that might know someone with land that we could camp on?

  66. BO please inform MO that the hope and change train will leave the station tomorrow and it is time for you both to be on it.The cliff is going to be the word WHITEY.Remind MO of the WWII slogan “LOOSE TONGUES LOSE WARS”May I suggest that it also applies to political campaigns as well.Don’t feel bad ,you started all this in Philly with that RACE SPEECH you gave to rouse up your cult and make Jeramiah and Farakahn proud of their young and gullible clone.THEY ARE COMING TO TAKE YOU AWAY HEY HEY.EVELYN PRINGLE WAS SO CORRECT IN HER COLUMN.: Curtain Time for Obama.Parts 1 2 3 4 5 6.Just as Hillary pointed out ” HE WILL LOOK UP TO THE HEAVENS AND THE GLASS CEILING WILL COME CRASHING DOWN”

    By ABM90 The very very Happy old guy Hillary Supporter

  67. looks like John Kerry was also at that event with MO

    Chicago (CNSNews.com) – Jesse Jackson says NASCAR should feature more African-American drivers because “negroes can drive cars fast.”

    Jackson made the remarks on Tuesday, the day of the sports luncheon at the 33rd Annual Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference in Chicago, while waiting to introduce Sen. John F. Kerry.

    “One thing I know, negroes can drive cars fast,” Jackson said to laughter. “I mean, we go through red lights, even [drive] at night with our lights off. We can drive cars fast,” he asserted from the podium.

  68. skmf

    I k now of a campground that is very nice and cheap in Colorado springs about 30 minutes to denver

  69. I would expect there have been MANy Michelle Obama rants. It’s only a question of whether or not somebody caught them on tape. While reading the Bots’ reactions to “Whitey”, I don’t see too many of them making the claim that Michelle Obama would never say something like that. Instead, all the talk is about whether there’s a tape or not, or whether Michelle’s words could be taken another way.

    The supposed transcripts of “Whitey” that I have read online mention Hurricane Katrina and some mention Jena, so they would be from later than 2004. But like I said, two separate tapes with two separate rants wouldn’t be beyond the realm of possibility.

  70. I know this was done at the RBC by fellow Hillary supporters: Someone made a deal with the hotels and supporters got a big discount. Transportation and airport was provided by the organizers.

    I can’t help but laugh at the campground suggestion. I’m sorry skmf, I didn’t mean to laugh. It’s just I keep imagining HRC people walking into the Convention with people in business attire and us looking like bushmen, unkempt and smelling of mosquitos spray.

  71. djia, at the state parks there is usually a campsite that is for a group. I looked at some near denver, they are beautiful and cheap. I went to Colorado state parks and found quiet a few!

  72. Hi All,

    I apologize if this has already been posted, but this is a great article:

    url: h t t p:/ /tinyurl.com/5fmnpa

    White Women Take the Gloves Off
    A Commentary By Froma Harrop
    Tuesday, June 03, 2008

    The woman who shouted “McCain in ’08” at the Democratic rules committee was speaking for a multitude. After mounting for months, female anger over the choreographed dumping on Hillary Clinton and her supporters has exploded — and party loyalty be damned. That the women are beginning to have a good time is an especially bad sign for Barack Obama’s campaign.

    “Obama will NOT get my vote, and one step more,” Ellen Thorp, a 59-year-old flight attendant from Houston told me. “I have been a Democrat for 38 years. As of today, I am registering as an independent. Yee Haw!”

    A new Pew Research Center poll points to a surging tide of fury, especially among white women. As recently as April, this group preferred Obama over the presumptive Republican John McCain by three percentage points. By May, McCain enjoyed an eight-point lead among white women.

    What’s dangerous for the Democratic Party is that, for many women, the eye of the storm has moved beyond Hillary or anything she does at this point. The offense has turned personal.

    They are now in their own orbit, having abandoned popular Democratic Websites that reveled in crude anti-Hillary outpourings — and established new ones on which they trade stories of the Obama people’s nastiness.

    But worse than the online malice has been the affronts to their faces.

    Tara Wooters, a 39-year-old mother from Portland, Ore., told me that wearing a Hillary sticker around town has become an act of defiance. She recalls one young man telling her, “I’d rather vote for a black man than a menopausal woman.”

    “We don’t hurl insulting, berating remarks at Obama supporters, or at Obama himself or his family,” Debbie Head, a 40-year-old from Austin, Texas, complained to me.

    Remember Peggy Agar? The women do. They can’t stop talking about the Detroit TV reporter who asked Obama a serious question at a Chrysler factory — “How are you going to help American autoworkers?” — to which he answered, “Hold on a second, sweetie.”

    The women are angry at the ludicrous charges of racism leveled against Clinton by the Obama camp — amplified in the supposedly respectable media — and projected onto themselves.

    Jean B. Grillo, an “over 50” writer in lower Manhattan, was pretty straightforward: “I am so tired as a white, ultra-liberal, McGovern-voting, civil-rights marching, anti-war fighting highly educated professional woman who totally supports Hillary Clinton to be attacked and vilified as racist and or dumb.”

    Shauna Morris, a 44-year-old lawyer from Largo, Fla., told me, “I am upper-middle class, and I still can’t stand him — and it has nothing to do with race, believe me.”

    The women talk of being taken for granted by a party leadership that never spoke out on some of the outrageous Hillary bashing — and despite the close race, joined the early rush to crown Obama.

    “Many of us feel slighted,” said Lynn Eyrich Harvey, 76, from Los Gatos, Calif. “We feel that years of supporting the party is unimportant, that we are to sit down and shut up — but be sure to vote Democratic in November.”

    Passions can change, one supposes, but the women I hear from do not see the rampant sexism, particularly toward older women, as isolated gaffes but as a systemic dismissal of them — an enormous voting bloc that has been reliably Democratic.

    “How Obama’s campaign has treated Hillary will not be forgotten,” Janet Rogers, 55, who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Medina, Ohio, wrote me. “I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. My husband and friends all feel the same way.”

    Indeed. McCain in ’08 has suddenly become a more likely prospect.

  73. This is my second post (maybe third)
    and I don’t think my previous comments ever posted,
    but I’ve been a reader since N.H.

    I have a question that I would like considered.

    When was the conference in which Donna Brazile made the statement
    that ‘we’ can nominate the next President? or something to that effect.
    – the point being – Did she purposely not press Gore to fight for
    Florida? Did she have bambi in the back of her mind when she advised Gore not to fight for Florida?

  74. filbert,

    SO TRUE, LOL…
    well its not my first choice, but keep in mind, many cannot afford
    bread for the next week either…
    at anyrate, we could always do both couldnt we?

    and people with hotel rooms could offer to let people crash on their floors as well couldnt they?
    just saying…

  75. debbie — great point

    I will remember that when I am told that I MUST vote for Obama because he is pro-choice!

    Pro-choice isn’t just about abortion, it’s about a career or staying home, about voting irrespective of your spouse or your parents (and now your children), it’s about gay or straight, in the closet or out, radical mastectomy or not, life support or not, and about advancement without regard to gender or race. It’s about all the choices that anyone gets. It’s our bodies, our lives, our votes. Mine is going to Hillary. If not, it’s going to McCain.

  76. Levon

    How Obama’s campaign has treated Hillary will not be forgotten,” Janet Rogers, 55, who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Medina, Ohio, wrote me. “I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. My husband and friends all feel the same way.”

    I am from Ohio i feel the same way, i will be voting for McCain

  77. My theory;

    The repubs are trying to kill 2 birds with one stone. By waiting until tomorrow or later this week or this month to release the whitey tape they force HRC to either suspend or concede the nomination AND they get what they’ve wanted all along which is running against the weakest, most ineffective and unelectable candidate.

    pretty smart, no? (but what happens if Waffles wins the GE?)

    😈 The only source of news I now have is this site. Even TM spoke today on MSNBC about making her blog more Waffles-friendly. No more cable, no more talk radio, no newspapers – just 44 and maybe I’ll subscribe to the BBC.

  78. counthevote,

    okay i went to hc website and sent my letter, here is what i sent:
    ***************************************************
    to hillary and harold ickies,

    i love and respect you, and i would love to see you as potus.
    but i am tired now and looking ahead.
    if you must drop out, that is your decision to make, but i
    will fight on.
    this race is no longer about you strangely enough, it is about
    the well being of the country, and the cleansing of the
    democratic party.
    if you were to somehow become the vp, i would without regret have to vote no to a joint ticket.
    no matter how tired or how disillusioned i am, i will fight on.
    i cannot let this ‘unkown factor’ linked to senator obama, find its way into the white house. there is great fear among the core democrats, that our party is being taken over by radicals.
    true or untrue, we will not let this happen under our watch.

    so go if you must, but know we fight on!

    it would do us a disservice, if you asked us to vote for this person, whom both you and i know, does not pass inspection.
    so please, realize what a horrible request that would be for us.
    there can be no reconcilliation, you must understand this.

    if you choose to fight on, welcome sister and we are right behind you…

    sincerely

  79. filbertsf Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    LOL…….. actually I don’t share that same image, as a long time camper i know how to put my clothes on a hanger
    and hang them up inside my vehicle 😀 ……and i never camp without full clean bathrooms and h20 and electric at my site
    so of course i have a hair dryer and curling iron along 😀

  80. guys – Colorado Springs is about an hour drive to Denver. There are closer places like Boulder, Longmont, Greeley – about 20-30 minutes away. Don’t stay at camp grounds. I’m sure there will be plenty of hotels

  81. filbert…. forgot to also say

    I think a bus would be great if we were all coming from the same location (which is what the RBC group did)

  82. oh – and just check the suburbs of Denver, like Broomfield, Westminster, Thorton – if you can find some Motel 6s or no name hotels/motels, I’m sure those won’t be on the preferred list of hotels recommended by the DNC.

  83. MSNBC reporting that Hillary said she would be open to consider VP choice if asked. Considering the source it is very questionable.

  84. oh confloyd,

    i have not been camping in maybe 20yrs (okay shut up everybody!)

    do they really have electricity?
    do they have mirrors too?
    you know what? it sounds so fun!!!
    will there be bears?
    geez, can you imagine the fun we could have drinking mohitos and
    cold brew after dark? yay!!!!

    wheres okie. she loves alcohol!!!! snifle snifle…

  85. Countthevotes

    I am looking for a hotel or motel to stay in. Can you reccomend some decent hotels or motels

  86. emmy,

    me either. 🙁

    clintondem,
    She better NOT be talking VP! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    I have to confess i will feel even more betrayed if she were to run on a ticket with 👿

  87. clintondem99 Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:02 pm
    MSNBC reporting that Hillary said she would be open to consider VP choice if asked. Considering the source it is very questionable

    NO, NO, NO

  88. basil9, She supposedly said that on a conference call whan asked by a latino REP. May be she wants every one to know that he rejected her.

  89. okay, if thats true about vp,
    THAN I’M REALLY, REALLY. REALLY PISSED!

    I WONT FOR THEM, HEAR ME OUT THERE?

    I WONT VOTE FOR OBAMA NO MATTER WHO IS ON THE TICKET!!!!
    F*CK YOU MSN !!!!!!

  90. skmf12 Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
    okay, if thats true about vp,
    THAN I’M REALLY, REALLY. REALLY PISSED!

    I WONT FOR THEM, HEAR ME OUT THERE?

    I WONT VOTE FOR OBAMA NO MATTER WHO IS ON THE TICKET!!!!
    F*CK YOU MSN !!!!!!

    I AGREE

  91. neeta,

    should we start a rideshare list and a hotel share list?

    djia,

    how do we do that?
    start getting a list together that is?

  92. Just saw this on HillBuzz… Greta Van Susteren reporting about emails from Obama camp that pushed for the AP HRC concession story this morning.

    Mr. Unity utilizing Rovian tactics.

    The Obama camp are just doing their best to piss off as many Clinton supporters as they can.

  93. I lived in Denver for awhile, but I can’t be specific – just the brand name hotel chains; I only know the ones that are famous, like the Brown Palace which is really expensive. I would recommend you do a hotwire.com search and the closest to the convention center would be capitol hill area.

    But again, if these places are full, like I said there are plenty of suburbs – Lakewood is West, Thorton, Westminster, Broomfield are north. You just have to rent a car.

    If you go to Boulder which is West – it is very expensive to stay there. But a really great area.

  94. skmf12 Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pm
    neeta,

    should we start a rideshare list and a hotel share list?

    Yes

    I am going online to check out the motels,and hotels.

  95. They have spaces with electric/water and bathrooms nearby and with a good air mattress its just like home. Its is in the 40 degreee threshold at night in Colo, so we will not need A/C. I can say a private campground would be better, since everyone will want a mojito or a margarita! LOL!! There are some real close to denver. In any case it would be lovely to meet everyone in person and share a drink and watch the historic event of nominating the first woman candidate in American history together! 🙂

  96. dija, well, that does seem like a problem. Many here are from different parts of the country. The group that I know that was at the RBC only provided transport to and from protest site. They also picked ppl up from the airport.

    Charter Bus can be quite expensive. If it’s not a full bus, it’s a terrible waste of money.

    Another thing, will they even allow us inside the Convention? I thought it was just for party insiders.

  97. I wrote my message to Hillary to fight to Denver. The AP is reporting otherwise – but they’re on our sh** list today. Here’s the link to their report:
    hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLINTON?SITE=CAVEN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

  98. Hey guys,
    Away from home now and of course didn’t believe initial reports, which have naturally proven false.

    It ain’t over. Stay cool under fire.

    This is as hard as it’ll get (though I had to laugh at rumblings on radio this morning saying Katherine Harris, Reid, & Dean will try to force Hill out in a few days.

    That I’d really like to see!

  99. okay neeta,

    cause i need a place to stay…
    workit girl 🙂

    and for the other subject of the buses.
    what if we start by asking if there are people in any large city that wants to organize a group to rent a bus…
    or we could encourage members to get their name on a bus list,
    which would state the city they are from, and then they can coordinate to get a small group to get tickets on amtrack or on greyhound…

  100. i would like to know the camp site everyone will be staying at. Maybe we could meet there. I will be staying in a motel or hotel. My bones can;t take it

  101. Wait, I read that all the way through. This is big news:
    hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLINTON?SITE=CAVEN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Clinton open to VP nod
    By BETH FOUHY and DEVLIN BARRETT
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton told colleagues Tuesday she would be consider joining Barack Obama as his running mate, and advisers said she was withholding a formal departure from the race partly to use her remaining leverage to press for a spot on the ticket.

    On a conference call with other New York lawmakers, Clinton, a New York senator, said she was willing to become Obama’s vice presidential nominee if it would help Democrats win the White House, according to a participant who spoke on condition of anonymity because this person was not authorized to speak for Clinton.

    Clinton’s remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez, who said she believed the best way for Obama to win key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

    “I am open to it,” Clinton replied, if it would help the party’s prospects in November.

    Clinton also told colleagues the delegate math was not there for her to overtake Obama, but that she wanted to take time to determine how to leave the race in a way that would best help Democrats.

    “I deserve some time to get this right,” she said, even as the other lawmakers forcefully argued for her to press Obama to choose her as his running mate.

    Aides to the Illinois senator said he and Clinton had not spoken about the prospects of her joining the ticket.

    Obama effectively sewed up the 2,118 delegates needed to win the nomination Tuesday, based on a tally of pledged delegates, superdelegates who have declared their preference, and another 18 superdelegates who have confirmed their intentions to The Associated Press. It also included five delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 15 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

    Word of Clinton’s vice presidential musings came as she prepared to deliver a televised address to supporters on the final night of the epic primary season. She was working out final details of the speech at her Chappaqua, N.Y., home with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, their daughter Chelsea, and close aides.

    Earlier, on NBC’s “Today Show,” Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said that once Obama gets the majority of convention delegates, “I think Hillary Clinton will congratulate him and call him the nominee.”

    Clinton will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, two senior officials said, her campaign is over.

    Most campaign staff will be let go and will be paid through June 15, said the officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge her plans.

    The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.

    Universal health care, Clinton’s signature issue as first lady in the 1990s, was a point of dispute between Obama and the New York senator during their epic nomination fight.

    In a formal statement, the campaign made clear the limits of how far she would go in Tuesday night’s speech. “Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination,” the statement said.

    Clinton field hands who worked in key battlegrounds said they were told to stand down, without pay, and await instructions. Speaking not for attribution because they didn’t want to jeopardize their jobs searches, many said they were peddling resumes, returning to their hometowns or seeking out former employers.

    Clinton officials have said they would not contest the seating of Michigan delegates at the convention in Denver this August. The campaign was angry this past weekend when a Democratic National Committee panel awarded Obama delegates it thought Clinton deserved.

    © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

  102. Agreed..she put that out there to put pressure on him knowing he will never ask her…he will look like a ungrateful winner.

  103. clintondem,
    I’m in semi-mourning. 🙁
    Look at who was RUNNING the DNC show. Germond, Dawson, Cruella,
    the chariwoman, that guy with the slicked back gerri-curls –
    Those with the biggest mouths voted not only to GIVE delegates to Waffles though he’d taken his name off the ballot as a political strategy, they’re NOW counting those 59 delegates toward his lead over HRC while simultaneously questioning the validity of crediting her with Michigan’s popular vote. These are the same people Bill, HRC and others worked to institute Affirmative Action for and look what has happened.
    My only consolation is that McCain will be prez and Waffles will go down in history as the biggest fraud ever to run for the highest office of the land.

  104. Clintondem

    Abcnews between hannity’s show also spoke about hillary being willing to accept vp
    But also said that Hillary hasn’t decided what she is doing with the campaign yet.

    Skmf

    Yes they have mirrors LOL

    Well…….depends on the campground but I must say most have nice bathrooms
    Hot Showers,flushing toilets, mirrors and electric too 😀

    And yes…..drinks under the stars around a campfire singing good bye kumbya obama!
    Sounds like a perfect event to me!

    And you do that by emailing me to get a invite to discuss privately about it 😀

    Luvcowboys63@yahoo.com

    Filbert

    That is why I am trying to get us on one list, and try to hook up and ride share
    As well as share accommodations

    Whether that be a motel or a campground with a tent

  105. skmf……no i have 2 tents 😀

    and someone else here confloyd i think it was
    bought a brand new one 😀

    we will share!

  106. Informed in Illinois, the AP is terribly ridiculous. First was the Clinton concession report. Then when that was debunked, it was Obama essentially clinched the nomination, then the third was Clinton will concede when Obama clinches nomination…

    I nominate Beth Fouhy and AP for worst journalistic integrity of the Primary season.

  107. # jbstonesfan Says:
    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Agreed..she put that out there to put pressure on him knowing he will never ask her…he will look like a ungrateful winner.

    AGREED!!! let’s not all forget and loose sight on the fact that Hillary and bill both are politically savvy
    each being very well versed in the game of politics and political maneuvers…….they are the force to be reckoned with

  108. filbertsf – I hope you are right. If so, she is the lowest, soulless jackal of a so-called journalist on the planet.

  109. OKAY LETS START OUT LIKE THIS:

    MY NAME IS: (well skip that)

    MY NAME IS: SKMF12, and i am from california,
    looking for hillary supporters driving, busing, or taking the train to
    denver.
    also looking for hotel, campground, or friendly home to stay in…

    ANYONE ELSE FROM CALIFORNIA LOOKING FOR SAME?

    🙂

  110. jbstonesfan Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
    Agreed..she put that out there to put pressure on him knowing he will never ask her…he will look like a ungrateful winner.

    I hope this is true, I cannot see her accepting VP. After what has been done to her. No way

    I will NOT go to Denver if this is true.

  111. ok i will play 😀

    Name: djia (aka deborah)
    age: 45,married with too many kids and animals 😀

    I am currently in NW iowa moving to SE South Dakota in a month

    looking for hillary supporters driving, busing, or taking the train to
    denver.
    also looking for hotel, campground, or friendly home to stay in…

  112. THIS IS THE MOST HELPFUL THING YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW.

    WE NEED TO RUN UP OUR MARGINS IN SOUTH DAKOTA, SO PLEASE PLEASE JUMP ON THE PHONES!!

    OUR SUPPORTERS AREN’T SHOWING UP BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS SAYING SHE’S OUT.

    BUT SHE IS A FIGHER AND SHE WILL FIGHT ON!!!

    Begin forwarded message:

    From: “Jonathan B. Fromowitz”
    Date: June 2, 2008 11:18:03 PM GMT-04:00
    To: “Jonathan B. Fromowitz”
    Subject: Fighting Hard and Finishing Strong

    Hi,

    Your South Dakota Primary Day script is attached, and follows below, but first, I want to give you an update from the campaign.

    This is it. Tomorrow will be the last day that you can connect with voters to generate support for Hillary before the nomination is decided. Undecided Superdelegates are waiting for the final primary results before they make their decisions, so whatever the media is saying, a win in South Dakota will drastically improve Hillary’s chances of being the nominee. Polls show that we have enough support to win in South Dakota, but we’ll need to turn out every last vote in order to make it happen for Hillary.

    The race in South Dakota will be close, and there is a strong chance that it will come down to a few thousand or even a few hundred votes. There has never been a state where Primary Day Get out the Vote calls have been so important. That’s why we’re asking all of our best callers to connect with voters for AT LEAST three full hours or longer if you can. After tomorrow, there will be no voters left to call until Hillary secures the nomination, so if there was ever an entire day to dedicate to talking to voters, it’s tomorrow. We are calling South Dakota all day, from 9 AM Central Time, until the last polls close at 7 PM Mountain Time.

    Tomorrow will be your last chance to make a major impact on Hillary’s campaign to win the nomination. Hillary is going to keep fighting, and no matter what happens tomorrow and in the coming weeks and months, I want all of our best callers to be able to rest assured that you did everything you possibly could to win this nomination for Hillary. Our best Activate callers have been some of Hillary’s best fighters and we need to fight as hard as we possibly can tomorrow to put an exclamation point on this historic race for the nomination.

    I also want to tell you on a personal level how inspiring your work has been for me and the rest of our staff. Hillary’s best Activate callers have connected with more voters than any other group of volunteers in the history of American campaigns. The time you’ve spent on Activate has resulted in more than 5 million phone calls and connections with more than 2 million voters. Hillary has received over 17 million votes, and you have talked to a hefty chunk of those voters. Moreover, Hillary’s 600,000 vote lead in the popular vote is a direct result of the connections that you have made with voters across the country.

    But numbers don’t tell the whole story. I know from my conversations with you how much of your heart goes into each of these calls. Our best callers are not just a force to be reckoned with in terms of generating votes for Hillary, you are the caring, thoughtful and persuasive voice of this campaign. Your energy and enthusiasm for Hillary turns undecideds into supporters and supporters into voters. You spread Hillary’s message to voters in a personal and passionate way that no TV advertisement can match; a way that no money can buy. You are the lifeblood of Hillary’s historic campaign.

    We only have one more day to continue to make an extraordinary impact, and I know our best callers are up to it. Tomorrow is the day when your help will go the furthest towards making Hillary our next President – let’s fight hard for her.

    Thank you. It is truly an honor to work with you.

    Jon

  113. hmmmm
    southern comfort, hmmmmm

    yeah okay then…. 🙂

    but can we cook something on a campfire?
    oh and can you show me how to camp?

  114. larry @ noquarter just put up a picture of MO and Farrakhans wife at the rainbow push together!!

  115. skmf12,

    The V.P. rumor is premature at this moment of time.

    I’m torn on this one, to be honest with you guys. I absolutely hate Obama, but V.P. is just one step away from Bambi, and everything can happen in politics. What about if Bambi is caught live with a boy in the white house? What if Michelle Obama is in an angry rage and cut his xxx(too graphic, lol) off in the bedroom? The bottom line is he can be gone from the presidency in just one second.

    The dilema is whether they can win as a combined ticket? I don’t know whether this is a tactic move from Clinton camp. Maybe they’re throwing the ball into Bambi’s court, and if Bambi shows his usual arrogance and does not invite her to the ticket, it will further enrage Hillary supporters and deal to him a body blow in Nov.

    Again, these are mere speculation. Tactically, we’ll decide what’s the best way to derail Obama and his anti-American faction in due course.
    The bottom line is he must be defeated in any form, at any cost.

  116. what worries me about her as VP is if anything from obama as president would stick to her
    after he fell apart??

    would the public blame hillary for anything he does?

  117. djia,

    it’s too premature to speculate what’s going to happen after ‘they’ win. I don’t want to waste time on that.

    The truth is whether she’s going to be his running mate does not matter in terms of tactics and strategy. We have to weaken bambi by all means. The more damaged he is, the stronger Hillary becomes. At that time, it’s not whether he will invite Hillary to his ticket, he will under tremedous pressure to beg Hillary to save his ass.

    Whether Hillary will accept it is another story. If it’s a definitely losing ticket when polls become clearer and cleaer in July/Aug, I’m sure Clinton will reject it and ask Supers to reconsider the nominee…

    Again too premature. Our strategy is to do anything possible to weaknen bambi. The weaker he becomes, the prettier Hillary looks as an alternative.

  118. ok folks……..hold the fort down

    I have to town and get food for all those animals i confessed too above 😀

  119. This is a good headline from Pajama media…

    Autopsy of the Primaries: The only Democratic Candidate who can lose the General Election; the only Republican one who can win it.

  120. kostner Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
    skmf12,

    The V.P. rumor is premature at this moment of time.

    I’m torn on this one, to be honest with you guys. I absolutely hate Obama, but V.P. is just one step away from Bambi, and everything can happen in politics. What about if Bambi is caught live with a boy in the white house? What if Michelle Obama is in an angry rage and cut his xxx(too graphic, lol) off in the bedroom? The bottom line is he can be gone from the presidency in just one second.

    The dilema is whether they can win as a combined ticket? I don’t know whether this is a tactic move from Clinton camp. Maybe they’re throwing the ball into Bambi’s court, and if Bambi shows his usual arrogance and does not invite her to the ticket, it will further enrage Hillary supporters and deal to him a body blow in Nov.

    Again, these are mere speculation. Tactically, we’ll decide what’s the best way to derail Obama and his anti-American faction in due course.
    The bottom line is he must be defeated in any form, at any cost

    These are all what ifs.

    I just cannot see myself voting for a O/ticket no matter who is the VP especially Hillary. to many bad memories on how she was treated and dirty politics.

    I will suffer McCain for the next four years than see O in office.

  121. kostner

    I disagree, i need to think about those things as to whether or not i could support her in any kind of ticket with obama

    right now…… absolutely not is my feelings

  122. djia,

    I’m with you emotionally. I frankly hope the Denver will burn in hell… and Bamba loses in a landslide in Nov… But as a political reality, he won’t lose in a landslide in 2008 simply become his role model George W. Bush fucked up everything.

  123. Rush Limbaugh discussed the tape today. From a Hot Topics post on TM:

    After I was finished at the dentist I came home and my mother was listening to Rush Limbaugh. “The tape, they have the tape,” she informed me. I was surprised to actually hear Limbaugh say that he hadn’t seen it, but he spoke with great assurance, as has Larry Johnson over at No Quarter. My immediate reaction was that if Limbaugh is airing it all over the country, then there must be something to it. He gets Republican talking points for sure, so he must have a direct feed on this…

  124. Like I said before I will be a proud Democrat voting for McCain this November….a pox on the Democratic Party and I will still vote for McCain if Hillary is VP because it was never about race since I’m Black…it was about what is best for the country and voting for Obama will be setting back the cause of women rights for years.

    The Democratic Party has taken women voters for granted too long and if they think Roe vs Wade is going to change my mind…too late. My mind has be LIBERATED by this primary and the action of this do nothing DNC when it comes to SEXISM and AGEISM.

    I so admire you Hillary but I’m not loyal to a party that thinks my vote can be taken for granted…let the party by SPLIT and see where all the chips fall but I’m not placing that corrupted Chicago Political Machine in the WHITE HOUSE.

  125. I am soooo confused, all these stories out there. I will only beleive the story if I see Hillary or T Mac on T.V. Otherwise I will start drinking and it is not 5:00pm yet (but it is 5:00 some where 🙂 ).

  126. When is HRC scheduled to speak tonight?

    BTW, I’m not surprised to hear Greta said Waffles’ camp was pushing the Hillary concedes story.

  127. Paddy, …:

    As I said to Informed in Illinois the other day, I am about as far from a ‘defeatist’ as one could be. But, as you said, we are all friends here and we should feel free to express our opinions.

    There are many ways to skin a cat, as the saying goes. We all have the same goals even if our methods may differ.

    Some people’s approach won’t make sense to others. That is to be expected.

    I’ll give you a related anecdote.

    On my YouTube videos, some of the most devoted ‘fans’ are the Astroturfers. They are constantly looking for ways to leave comments so that I’ll approve them, etc.

    Well, they started to type comments in ‘code,’ things such as writing out words/messages using the first letter of each line for the attempt. For Example:

    Omigosh, so glad you made this video.
    Barack is a real threat to
    America, and people dont see it.
    My thing is this: Trinity. What is that?
    Anti-Americans shouldn’t be in the White House

    Right now, I think we need to work to beat
    Obama as fast as possible.
    Clinton is so much better and losers like
    Kerry can’t even see it.
    So, screw them.

    Things like this, very facile, obvious ploys that they thought were cute but that wouldn’t make it past the first chapters of a Nancy Drew novel.

    Anyways, I decided to use their comments to help promote the videos, publishing most of them and realizing that most of the people who came to watch the productions wouldn’t be looking for codes or anything else. What they would see would be more people who were unhappy with Obama.

    And then after the videos got enough views that they had their own momentum, I just took the comments off. No harm, no foul.

    The point is, there are any number of tactics to employ to defeat a foe. Using their own efforts against them as I did with the video comments posting is one way. Another way is to demonstrate to them that you are serious about going to help the other party’s nominee if your own party screws you over.

    There doesn’t have to be any unanimity in the approaches that we take. We’re all working to achieve the same things.

    .

    * Jesse Jackson — Great work on the NASCAR comments. Are all Chicago political/religious figures equally as obsessed with race? The answer seems to be a clear “yes.”

    * Hillary as VP talk, part 1,013 — I’m not even concerned about this right now, but like that it is out there because I think it helps us achieve our objectives.

    * Robert ‘Fair Reflection’ Wexler

    You’re effed, bro. Tweety was trying to say you were the best speaker of the day on Saturday, and you went and made the media rounds trying to get some daps after your meltdown performance, but we all saw what happened and now you have become fully aware of what your fist-pounding, Ickes-dissing, I’m-a-jackass presentation has wrought: your own constituents have turned on you and it’s going to get worse.

    The Roe/Wade argument isn’t going to help you, as you and the Bambians have already found out. The people MOST upset with the Bambian cadre are women, and they are NOT in the mood to be blackmailed. Harriet Christian, et al have clearly demonstrated this.

    Also ineffective will be a backdoor (read: after you complete the coup and give Bambi the nom.) attempt to seat FL’s delegates. Sorry, no one is falling for that weak sauce.

    The bottom line is this — When the chips were down, you showed your true colors, and they are these:

    Bullying, opportunistic, dance on my opponent’s grave, mouthbreathing used car salesman who thinks he’s cute, sly and smart but is none of these things.

    We saw, Bobby. We have the tape. You’re screwed, and there’s no way out.

    Your choice, your consequences. Just like Bambi.

    *****************************************
    End the ‘racist’ drama — say “HELL NO!” to Obama

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com
    —————————
    Join the 30,000+ in over 100 countries on 6 continents who have seen the truth about Barack Hussein Obama

    The Essential Obama videos:

    Barack Obama, Islam, Terrorists & Terrorism
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_N1rqVo2W0

    The Obama Cult (Ruby Ridge Remix)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7wVUX9Ixo

    The Obama Equation
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxphNEtRr3k

    Michelle Obama: First Lady of Hate
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4pSFrHfMWs

  128. carbynew,

    I truly admire you. Yes, on a principal basis, if Clinton ever considers to accept his V.P. offer, it will piss off lots of her loyal supporters. She has to take this into account.

    Again, I don’t know whether I want to entertain the idea of such ticket…

  129. LET THIS BE A WAKE-UP CALL TO THE AIRHEADS THE APOLOGISTS, THE MOLLIFIERS, THE FELLOW TRAVELLERS, THE CAMP FOLLOWERS, THE MISOGYNISTS, THE SEXISTS WHO STILL DON’T GET IT. . . . . ..

    -WHY WOMEN ARE DESERTING OBAMA-
    (Reader Response to EJ Dion Article 5/29/08)

    It seems like journalists and reporters are all starting to write about this topic…interesting how you, Tapper, Cilizza, etc are all commenting on the ‘impression’ of how badly Hillary has been treated…I find it odd how there still seems to be a hint of condescension in the articles…as if, this is what Hillary and her supporters are imagining…or this is what Hillary wants the DNC to believe…
    I think the female politicians that you spoke with gave you a clue to the tip of the iceberg that is surfacing out there in the real world of people and voters…you know, like the 17 million that actually voted for Hillary…

    The one miscue I believe in your article is the media is still trying to shift the responsibility from Obama…I hear this constantly…Hillary does something and we hear about it nonstop for four days and cable tv assembles panels to discuss what she did and how horrible she is…Barak Obama does something or another pastor disaster issue arises and cable tv shrugs and literally says ‘does it really even matter?’

    Well guess what, yes it really matters…and the flee of women from Obama is because of Obama…the media hasn’t helped but give women enough credit to understand why they oppose someone…we see through this facade that has been created…

    Obama has set a tone in his camp from the start that exploited the Hillary and Bill hate…he allowed the race baiting to begin when Hillary won NH and Eugene Robinson and Chris Matthews, instead of making a big deal out of the first woman to have won a major primary….no, instead they introduced that night, ‘The Bradley Effect’ and then Dennis Kucinich and the Obama camp called for a recount in NH…from that point on Hillary was a racist, she would ‘periodically’ get emotional according to Obama, and of course you know the rest…a bitch, a f’ing whore, pimped her daughter, on and on…
    Obama encouraged all of this, mocking her as Annie Oakley…brushing her off his shoulder…always referring to her as ’she’ with no deference or respect…all you have to do is read any of the comments from his supporters…they are filled with anger, sexism and hate…and a lot of the hate is directed at Hillary…so much for unity, hope and civility…a real leader would have spoken up long ago and nipped that it the bud…but Obama fanned the flames…he even exploited RFK’s memory in an attempt to finish off Hillary while pushing the story with the media…

    And that is the real untold story…how the Obama camp has marketed this camp of hope, change, unity when in fact it is filled with anger, rage, hate, revenge…just listen to the latest from his church of 20 years…

    So women know why they feel the way they do and they understand who inspired those perceptions…and give women credit…we are not going to be charmed, or threatened by Roe vs Wade, to support a candidate that we do not believe in…the big misconception the media has been pushing is that voters were voting against Obama.

    But the truth the media cannot stand to accept is that those voters were (and still are) voting FOR HILLARY…we like her, we admire and respect her contrary to being told over and over that she has high negatives, is polarizing and that no one likes her…her supporters do…

    I think many of those voters will become independents, stay home and some will become McCain Democrats…there is a very real disappointment and frustration for the direction the DNC is taking this so-called new Democratic Party…

    (Note: I personally wrote 5 letters to mysogynistic msnbc asking them to stop trying to vilify Hillary and coronate Obama. Those letters were sent to VP.Capus (2x), President Griffin, General Counsel. Zero response.–WB)

  130. carbynew Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
    Like I said before I will be a proud Democrat voting for McCain this November….a pox on the Democratic Party and I will still vote for McCain if Hillary is VP because it was never about race since I’m Black…it was about what is best for the country and voting for Obama will be setting back the cause of women rights for years.

    So true, i am AA It’s like lets throw the Hillary supporters a BONE by offering Hillary the VP spot. Remember KERRY/EDWARDS It will not work

  131. Did the server crash at No Quarter? I get error messages, every time. Must be either massive site traffic, or the Obama-bots have hacked it…

  132. I don;t see how all this rumor can be true since the results of today;s primaries aren’t in, and there is a cloud over BO, about am inflammatory video.

  133. The VP chatter is interesting, and let’s be real, you all just KNOW that there is TONS of talk behind the scenes right now between Obama, Clinton, the DNC, etc. There HAS to be. She has all the leverage in the world, too, so good for her.

    She can go so far as to say “sure, I’d love to be the VP if Obama’s the nominee,” and still keep running, too. They aren’t mutually exclusive. If I were in Hillary’s shoes, I’d want to sit tight for a few weeks, and see how Obama can weather the Republican onslaught. If he fades, which is very possible, then she’ll be needed to step in and take over. If he doesn’t, and if Hillary honestly thinks that he can beat McCain, then I think she should take the VP slot. But that’s just me, and we all have our own opinions, and I respect that.

  134. ADMIN and wbboei – if you can, please rREMOVE the activate script. These calls are paid for by the HRC campaign, and the Obamabots will abuse this.

    please remove it.

  135. djia, neetabug: I agree with both of you.

    I don’t believe Hillary wants the VP spot either. Although Bill and now Hillary (reportedly, but from unsubstantiated sources) have mentioned it, I believe the only reason that the notion is being floated is to further harden Hillary supporters to the idea of not voting for the Affirmative Action candidate this fall.

    If this is pushed for harder in the upcoming days/weeks/months, the Affirmative Action candidate will look more and more like someone who is not doing what is in the best interest of the Democratic? party. For the past couple of months there have been polls that indicate a combined ticket would stand a much better chance of winning the election. That’s even more true now, with the Affirmative Action candidate trending downward against McCain.

    Since it’s unlikely the Affirmative Action candidate would ask Hillary to be his running mate, he looks like a sore winner that’s being selfish. In my mind this would even further anger Hillary supporters, giving them yet another good reason to either vote McCain or not vote for him at all. After all, who is more deserving than Hillary to be the VP (or POTUS for that matter)?

    Anyway, that’s my 2 cents. By the way, I hope that no one here is offended by my use of the term ‘Affirmative Action Candidate’. I have nothing against Affirmative Action and think it has served its purpose well. HOWEVER, it should have no place in electing a person to the highest political position in our great country.

  136. Is it just me, or would it be the wrong thing for Hillary to be V.P. Only because when he losses that “stink” will rub off on her, and could hurt her chance going foward. IMO.

  137. All the “usual suspects” have to work extra hard to try to cement a perception that “it’s about to happen…”, using a whisper campaign.

    Obviously, they are trying to ignore the elephant in the room, Obama’s huge losing streak since February. He now trails in “popular vote”, unless you use MSM’s alternate funny number count (“why bother counting MI and FL, but let’s try to divine a number from an extrapolation of exit polls in caucus states”).

    Even Yahoo’s own “Obama creeps past McCain in opinion poll” shows that while he’s edged ahead 47-44, Hillary is even better with 49-43. “Oh, but that doesn’t matter. Only the pledged delegate count matters”. Technically, yes, and technically, SDs don’t count until August, ergo, he’s technically hundreds of votes from clinching it.

    But the Big Spin is the Big Lie, but the Big Babies in the DNC are rolling over. If they follow through on their lamb-like behavior, and give in to Obullying, we’ll punish them.

    We’re the backbone of the party. Ignore us at your peril.

  138. As usual, they’re trying to have it both ways. You can’t have caucuses AND a popular vote. Nice try.

  139. OH HI SORRY,

    everywhere all the channels are asking those two all important
    questions:

    1- will hillary concede tonight that barack obama has won the
    nomination? they keep citing her terri mccauliff saying if he wins the
    delegate count she will acknowledge he won…

    2- they keep asking if she will accept the vice president slot as
    she has been cited as saying, and claiming she is holding out for the
    vp position…

    MY WARNING WAS BECAUSE IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET YOURSELF
    F_CKING PISSED OFF, YOU BETTER NOT WATCH TV!!!!!!!!

  140. AP/Yahoo doing their best today to get all the Obama wins nomin/Hillary concedes/Hillary open to VP – but no “official departure” yet stories. Good Lord!

  141. Any “talk” of the Veep spot is just a lure, a bone to throw at Hillary supporters, and to impress SDs about how rational and forgiving and wonderful he is. But we won’t be fooled.

    He won’t offer it. And Hillary would not accept it if he did…not after how this race has been run. Better to watch him lose, force a good house cleaning at the party top, and wait four years.

  142. hillfans, stay away from ccn and msnbc. they are practically are popping the corks as terry mcauliff was sayinga few days ago. i am watching foxnews. FAIR AND BALANCED INDEED. DAMN I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BELIEVE THAT!

  143. skmf12 Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
    “WHOA DUDE!!!!!!!!!

    WHATEVER YOU DO, DONT TURN THE TV ON….

    PHEWWWWWWWW
    SCARY….”

    LMAO

  144. JAS: I concur 🙂

    If the waffles crap parade keeps going, not even Hillary in the VP slot will be able to help the Dems win this election. Hillary would be blamed for losing it and would be damaged for a 2012 run.

    We all know the best scenario is Hillary wins the nomination and Presidency, but the 2nd best scenario should be obvious to everyone as well: WAFFLES LOSES THE ELECTION TO McCAIN.

    If that happens, EVERYBODY and I mean EVERYBODY in the democratic party will owe Hillary a HUGE APOLOGY. Nobody will be blaming her (well, some people might, but they will be DROWNED OUT by the rest). At that point Hillary becomes the de-facto nominee for 2012. I know that 4 years is a lifetime in politics, and nothing is ever for certain, but in politics this would be as close to a certainty as you can get, IMO.

  145. Berkeley Vox,

    no quarter’s traffic is skyrocketing, thus the crash. I can occasionally get access. It looks to me the anti-Hillary blogs createdd by Hillary supporters are TRULY gaining traction.

    Hillbuzz, no quarter etc….

    The only credit I’ll give to Obama’s campaign is his internet operations and fundraising… I think Clinton was catching up …

    MSM also seems to notice that lots of Hillary supporters are creating sites to trade tips on Obama’s corruption etc. I think this will only harden our will to do battle going forward.

    I suggest you guys put out some interesting anti-Obama site links created by Hillary supporters as many as possible here. We are all family!!

  146. I’m probably getting into conspiracy-theory territory now, but maybe the VP talk is Hillary’s way of going on record, now, before the Republican attacks begin, of showing that she suppports Obama. Obama is going to tank even further in the polls after the Michelle-at-Trinity video surfaces, and the Obama-bots are not going to be happy about it and will be lashing out at everyone. Hillary will be able to back off, put her hands in the air, and basically say, “hey, this is all the Republicans’ doing. I would have backed you up.”

  147. i’ve been lurking on freepers, red states for a while. Looks like she has lots of newfound love and admiration from the strange corner… LOL…

    Bambi is trashed like a turd there…

  148. kostner: We are all family!!

    Then can I call you the uncle that gets a pass when he curses at the family dinner b/c he’s just a grumpy old man?

  149. you know what?

    this feels like a real kumbaya moment,

    I JUST LOVE YOU GUYS !!!
    THANKS FOR BEING ON THIS ROLLER COASTER RIDE WITH ME…

    sniffle… sniffle… sniffle…

    (i believe i could use a drink)

    🙂

  150. Berkeley Vox Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
    I’m probably getting into conspiracy-theory territory now, but maybe the VP talk is Hillary’s way of going on record, now, before the Republican attacks begin, of showing that she suppports Obama. Obama is going to tank even further in the polls after the Michelle-at-Trinity video surfaces, and the Obama-bots are not going to be happy about it and will be lashing out at everyone. Hillary will be able to back off, put her hands in the air, and basically say, “hey, this is all the Republicans’ doing. I would have backed you up.”

    I was thinking the same thing.

  151. Just received this e-mail and was asked to e-mail Terry McAuliffe.

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    Dear All:
    This is the message I sent to Terry McAuliffe. Feel free to forward under your own email (or by preference) write your own—whatever your sentiments. If you will not support Obama—whatever HRC’s position—please tell them so.

    —— Forwarded Message
    From:
    Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:57:21 -0400
    To:
    Conversation: PLEASE hold on….
    Subject: PLEASE hold on….

    Dear Mr. McAuliffe:

    PLEASE ask Senator Clinton to hold on. We are still working to get the Odinga story covered by the press. I re-wrote it with documentation (see attached). Synopsis is only 3 pages—all the rest are footnotes. Attached is the letter, analysis & list of press contacts it was sent to last week by overnight letter. Susie Buell is also trying to get someone to cover this story…. We are also hopeful that this Michelle Obama tape or something else will come to light.

    PLEASE don’t let her accept the vice presidency or work hard for Obama.
    The relationship with Obama and the DNC is abusive—abusive to her and her supporters. If you needed any further proof, the Obama camp putting out a story that she is conceding tonight—and the AP reporting it—while the polls are still open in SD and MT should confirm it.

    If she has to endorse him, so be it—but then have her take off to India and build latrines or something Carter-esque for a few months—or organize an international “Women’s Rights Tour”. Even if she begs us (and we love her so) we CAN’T support him; you need to understand that.

    Her supporters will NOT vote for him. He is not qualified, he is immature and unseasoned, he has toxic associations that only divide us, and his campaign has perpetrated a scorched earth policy toward us; they will now reap what they have sown.

    Let McCain win with a Democratic Congress. Obama will go down in flames as more of these revelations come out. In 6 months we will be ready. We didn’t know you needed us. But we know now. We are organized. We are networked across the country by the thousands. Put out the call to professional women—not young kids—that they are needed to help run the campaign. We will come.

    We believe in her. Believe in us.

    Tel:

  152. Berkeley Vox, I was thinking something along the same lines.

    IF Hillary is making some noise about the VP slot and will raise the notion that waffles has the delegates to win the nomination tonight, it might be in part to insulate herself from whatever attacks the Republicans throw at waffles. These moves would allow her to a) appear conciliatory, but only to a point, and b) seen as attempting to unite the party.

    I’m not sure what to make about all of the fuss over the Michelle Obama tape, but if it WERE going to come out soon, what better way to position yourself for it than what she is reported to be doing/saying today?

    On the other hand, if she were still adamant about taking this to the convention, and still aggressively attacking waffles, any revelations that come out could much more easily be attributed to her.

  153. oh. wow. it’s all coming apart. it’s happening too quickly.

    I need a break. See you all later.

  154. filbert is a nice guy, and i understand how he is feeling.

    as for me, this is what we knew was going to happen, nothing
    has changed.
    if hill goes vp, or if she drops out, this does not change a thing..

    this is the ‘STOP OBAMA’ , all the hillary web sites are turning into
    the same thing…
    i’m not going out without a fight !!!!
    how bout you guys?

    is this going to break you?

  155. Yeah, that makes sense Levon. Hillary is a gracious woman and she knows that Obama and the media are going to try and make tonight a coronation, even though he can’t win without SDs, and they don’t vote until August. She knows that if Obama starts slipping even further in the polls against McCain in the coming weeks, as will probably happen, then there will be lots of time for the SDs to shift to her.

    She just needs to weather today’s thunderstorm, as we all do. Lost in the MSM shuffle will be the fact that once again, Hillary has done EXCEEDINGLY well in two more states, and that Obama has been tanking over the last 2 months. She’ll give a beautiful speech tonight I’m sure, as she always does, and she’ll get us all fired up, once again 😀

  156. skmf12, HELL NO, WE WON’T GO 🙂

    If Hillary doesn’t win the nomination, whenever that becomes fact, I will easily switch to Hillary 2012 mode. That means doing everything I can to get McCain elected this year. I’ll donate, blog, makes calls, write letters and write emails on his behalf.

    For me, it’s an easy decision to make. The Democratic? Party has deserted me, and I will in turn desert it.

  157. This is getting interesting!!

    U.S. Sen. John Kerry – wary of a potential political embarrassment – has been calling in favors to top Bay State Democrats in a bid to block a Gloucester lawyer from getting on the ballot to challenge him, the Herald has learned.

    Several high-ranking Democrats said the senator has reached out in recent days seeking support and asking for help in preventing attorney Ed O’Reilly from getting the convention votes he needs to force a September primary race against Kerry.

    O’Reilly, a former firefighter, needs 15 percent support from the Democratic State Committee at the party’s convention Saturday in Lowell to get on the ballot. He did not return calls yesterday.

    Kerry campaign spokesman Roger Lau said: “The senator has been in Massachusetts politics for a long time and he believes what Tip O’Neill said, that all politics is local. You have to ask everyone. You can’t take (support) for granted.”

    Insiders say Kerry has drawn the ire of some party officials for backing Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton in the presidential primary race and that some may use Saturday’s convention to exact political payback.

    Clinton backers recently showed their clout in intra-party elections, ousting longtime state delegate Margaret Xiafaras, reportedly because she backed Obama.

    “In a (presidential) primary race as close as this one has been, it would not surprise me to see people take sides and for there to be hard feelings,” said state Sen. Jack Hart. “I know the Kerry campaign is calling around to all the delegates, which they haven’t done in the past, asking for their support.”

    If O’Reilly gets on the ballot, he would be Kerry’s first primary opponent since 1984.

    “They want to put him on the ballot,” said one longtime party operative. “They figure it ruins Kerry’s summer by making him have to campaign in the state.”

    But state Auditor Joseph DeNucci, a Clinton backer, said Kerry deserves the party’s full support.

    “I’m with him,” DeNucci said. “He’s an incumbent. He’s been a good senator. It wouldn’t look too good for the Democratic party to come out against one of its own.”

    Former state Democratic Party chairman Chester Atkins added: “John is an important senator, an important partner to Ted Kennedy and an important national voice. To have John distracted by someone who is just a nuisance candidate would be unfortunate.”

  158. Levon,
    I agree that it makes sense for Hillary to play nice right now. I honestly can’t see her accepting the VP spot under any circumstances. I think that’s all just talk, aimed at certain people within the Party. And of course, if the “Whitey” tape comes out anytime soon, Hillary doesn’t want to make it look as if her people are responsible for leaking it. (By all counts, it’s the Repubs, but we all know how lovely the media is.)

    The local news here in Detroit reported the AP story as gospel. But in today’s Free Press, there are some angry letters to the editor about the RBC decision. The people know what’s going on here, and if the Dems don’t hurry up and fix it they’re going to lose big in November, and I’m not just talking about the White House.

  159. kostner: that article has a strange quote in it: ‘To have John distracted by someone who is just a nuisance candidate would be unfortunate.”

    That’s funny, since when do true democratic Americans consider political opponents as ‘nuisances’?

  160. Insiders say Kerry has drawn the ire of some party officials for backing Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton in the presidential primary race and that some may use Saturday’s convention to exact political payback.

    Clinton backers recently showed their clout in intra-party elections, ousting longtime state delegate Margaret Xiafaras, reportedly because she backed Obama.

  161. mj, foxnews did not display that demograhic. i guess they are keeping the full exit polls underwraps until 9pm eastern my time.

  162. I went to O’Reilly’s site, here’s some news:

    Ed Wins 42% of the Votes in Methuen Straw Poll
    Submitted by edoreill_admin on Tue, 04/22/2008 – 14:16 The presidential race results were no surprise, committee chairman Eleni Varitimos said. Clinton took Methuen 5,207 to 2,168 in the Feb. 5 state presidential primary.

    “Clinton won this area before. … It’s nice to see,” Varitimos said. “Now, Kerry and O’Reilly. That could be an interesting primary coming up.”

    O’Reilly said he was encouraged by coming so close, especially since he brought none of his own supporters to the event.

    “The Kerry campaign brought in supporters from outside Methuen,” he said. “I think the people of Methuen can see I’m a working man. I am someone they can identify with. … I’m going to have to get past the name recognition.”

  163. kostner, mass is a strong hillary state so i am not surprized about the backlash of kerry’s endorsement of obama.

  164. skmf12: and THANK YOU!!

    Jen: I wish I lived in a swing state like yours. I’m here in Texas and although I will vote for either Hillary or McCain, waffles doesn’t have a shot at winning Texas, so my vote won’t make any difference in the electoral outcome.

    By the way, does anyone else remember what the Hillary campaign was saying about something big coming out in early June? Well here we are in early June, and what’s the biggest rumor out there? Could they have been foretelling the MO tape?

  165. Support of Obama costs MarDee Xifaras her spot on Democratic National Committee

    Attorney Margaret “MarDee” Xifaras has been ousted after 28 years from the state’s delegation to the Democratic National Committee by what one supporter describes as “hard-core Hillary feminists” upset with her endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama for president in a state that went for Sen. Clinton.
    The removal of the tireless campaigner from Marion came last weekend when the Democratic State Committee met in Dorchester to vote on the appointment of two men and two women to four-year terms on the national panel.
    After cheerfully saying, “I’m still standing,” Mrs. Xifaras told The Standard-Times, “It was interesting to watch because there was a fair amount of disconcert from friends, partly female friends, that I had chosen to support Obama.”
    Susan Thomson, who until recently was the state party’s executive director, campaigned to replace Mrs. Xifaras, and won a four-year term with the heavy majority of the female vote, according to John Howcroft of Acushnet, a Clinton backer who said he nonetheless supported Mrs. Xifaras in the balloting.
    He said the “hard-core Hillary feminist” sentiment combined with a mood of anti-incumbency at the meeting, a trend he felt personally when Acushnet voters dealt him a narrow loss of his job as town clerk this spring.
    “Let me put it this way,” he said. “Among the Clinton supporters there was a sort of unwritten word that went out that said we elect our own, and the collateral damage on that was we don’t vote Xifaras.”
    He said that state Senate President Therese Murray, D-Plymouth, and former Sen. Lois G. Pines were at the meeting and “have been very outspoken, each of them, about women who have not been supporting Hillary Clinton.”
    Sen. Murray could not be reached for comment; Mrs. Pines, however, told The Standard-Times that she supported Mrs. Xifaras despite their differences. But contenders Diane Saxe of Grafton and Ms. Thompson worked hard to win backers one by one, and they took the two available seats.
    “I’m not sure to what degree MarDee worked the membership to seek their support, but there was no question a lot of people were very upset about her inability to support Hillary Clinton,” Mrs. Pines said.
    Since Mrs. Xifaras’ term extends through the national convention, her loss does not change her status as a superdelegate backing Sen. Obama.
    The change leaves no SouthCoast representation on the Democratic National Committee for the first time in almost three decades.
    Rep. William M. Straus, D-Mattapoisett, a law partner of Mrs. Xifaras and a delegate to the Democratic National Convention’s credentials committee, said that SouthCoast should not see a direct impact from its lack of a voice on the national committee because the job is more to represent the state as a whole.
    “I didn’t view her as a spokesperson for Southeastern Massachusetts’ view of Democratic Party issues,” he said.
    Mr. Howcroft said that although Rep. Straus is correct, Mrs. Xifaras did serve as a direct conduit for information between area Democrats and the national party, and that will be missed.
    Marion was the only SouthCoast community to swing toward Sen. Obama; Fall River and New Bedford tilted to Sen. Clinton by more than 70 percent. She won the state, with 56 percent to Sen. Obama’s 41.
    State Democratic leaders have split, with Sen. Murray and Mrs. Pines being joined by Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino, and Gov. Deval Patrick along with Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry joining the Obama forces.

  166. terrondt, He would take MT due to college kids. I thought that loser Kerry is angling for a VP job so he does not have to contest in MA.

  167. Kostner, Mardee is a friend of John Kerry.

    This is an example of what should happen. Those like Kerry and Wexler should be primaried. JBstonesfan posted an article on Wexler and his friend booed in his district. Mardee should be the first of many.

    Let’s not whine, let’s primary.

  168. yep the females are out everywhere for Hillary here in western sd..and surrounding areas….we all got about 15 phone calls from NYC California from everywhere LOL…they said we let them kick her out thats..they know the story’s and the media

  169. admin,

    I have difficult to post on a variety pro-Hillary sites. Can any of you post the linke of such success stories on Hillary sites, and encourage Hill backers to take out these obamabots in primaries.

  170. I read somewhere that you should email Hillary with the subject line or for Ickes to tell Hillary to take this all the way to the convention so Hillary knows how much of a base she has and how much we want her to continue.

    I will not tolerate Hillary being VP as this will only show to people that she’s the weaker candidate while he’s the stronger one (which of course is not true)

  171. Well, it would be hilarious if all this hoopla happens tonight and then they drop that videotape tomorrow.

    Who knows what tomorrow brings.

  172. debbie Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
    Donna Brazille must turn in here resignation today from the democratic party.

    Yeah, right. When pigs fly.

  173. ADMIN,

    I DONT WANT TO BRAG…

    but,

    if my high level democratic traitor gets ‘PRIMARIED’,
    I should earn a whopping 10 out of ten points for that?
    since nancy pignosi is in my district…
    what say you?

    shall we designate points for target traitors?

  174. Bill Bennet, a short while ago on CNN, the republican knives are out, expect a change tonight folks, the teardown begins and its going to be vicious.

    The Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of George McGovern, albeit without McGovern’s military and political record. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far-left candidate in the tradition of Michael Dukakis, albeit without Dukakis’s executive experience as governor. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of John Kerry, albeit without Kerry’s record of years of service in the Senate. The Democratic party is about to nominate an unvetted candidate in the tradition of Jimmy Carter, albeit without Jimmy Carter’s religious integrity as he spoke about it in 1976. Questions about all these attributes (from foreign policy expertise to executive experience to senatorial experience to judgment about foreign leaders to the instructors he has had in his cultural values) surround Barack Obama. And the Democratic party has chosen him.

  175. yeah deb,

    i feel your pain, but not likely to happen.
    looks like people in her district will have to ‘PRIMARY’ her too…

    she’s definetly a 10 pointer…
    i think we might be able to add an extra point for high target.

  176. No one other than our beloved Senator Clinton would be standing after all she and her family have unfairly been put through. A press so hateful, they even admitted being pro-Obama, a rigged election, a conspiracy of party leaders working to defeat her, and a once proud democratic party moving away from it’s base for the flavor of the moment…nonetheless, she beat him in popular votes, electoral votes, and states which matter. This is a woman who has not only earned the nomination, she has every right to claim it as hers. Hillary Clinton, President or not, will be a hero for my 2yr old daughter and already is 2 my 12 and 14 yr old sons. God bless!!!!

  177. lets face it-obama could be an ax murderer and sds would still go with him. i cannot believe a tape would do him harm in the party elite who are forcing hillary on us

  178. The republican blogs are cock a hoop, they reckon the democrats have made the worst mistake ever and they enjoying the fight, this will bring republicans out like never before, you just watch.

  179. moononpluto,

    a caller in hannity show said that BHO can not even past security clearance if he apply for a CIA job due to his associate with radical terrist. Now DNC want to nominate him to run for the president. what a joke!

  180. Tex for hillaryb 9 pm eastern time ..got ta talkin to the girl in office…she is getting people from all over the world clallng her how is she doing lol.

  181. Todd Purdum isn’t the worth the paper his sleaze his printed on. Scumbag, indeed:

    ———-
    Actress Named in Vanity Fair’s Attack-on-Clinton Article Demands Retraction

    (CNN) — Actress Gina Gershon is demanding a retraction from Vanity Fair after the magazine reported “high-end Hollywood dinner-party gossip” that former President Clinton “has been seen visiting” her in California.

    The lengthy article by the magazine’s national editor, Todd Purdum, mentioned the actress along with several other women rumored to be associated with Clinton, all anonymously sourced.

    “Todd Purdum’s insinuation is a lie, and it is irresponsible journalism,” said Gershon’s publicist, Mara Buxbaum. “We are demanding a retraction.”

    A letter sent by Gershon’s attorneys to Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Graydon Carter, obtained by CNN, demanded a published correction and retraction and threatened possible litigation for defamation.

    The actress appeared in 1995’s “Showgirls” and the more recent “P.S. I Love You.”

    Gershon “is extremely offended by the false and defamatory inference that she engaged in an adulterous relationship with the President,” the letter says, adding that the actress has been in the same room with Clinton three times, always in the presence of at least a dozen people.

    “It is apparent that Vanity Fair was intent upon publishing unsubstantiated rumors, and that it avoided learning the true facts so that the truth would not get in the way,” the letter says. “Such conduct is reckless and malicious, giving rise to substantial liability for defamation.”

    In a statement, Vanity Fair denied that the article indicates any “improper relationship” between Clinton and Gershon.

    “The story merely examines the concerns of some of Clinton’s aides about reports of his behavior,” the magazine said. “We don’t believe that any correction is warranted.”

    Purdum’s article, “The Comeback Id,” quoted multiple anonymous sources questioning the former president’s behavior since leaving the White House.

    The article suggested that Clinton’s personality had changed since his 2004 heart bypass surgery and said there were reports of Clinton “seeing a lot of women on the road.”

    Clinton issued a tirade against Purdum on Monday when asked by Huffington Post writer Mayhill Fowler what he thought of “the hatchet job somebody did on you in Vanity Fair,” according to a recording of the exchange posted on the Huffington Post’s Web site.

    “[He’s] sleazy,” Clinton responded. “He’s a really dishonest reporter.”

    Clinton said that he had not read the article but that he was told that “there’s five or six just blatant lies in there. But he’s a real slimy guy.”

    Calling Purdum a “scumbag,” Clinton said “he’s one of the guys that propagated all those lies about Whitewater for Kenneth Starr. He’s just a dishonest guy — can’t help it.”

    Purdum “didn’t use a single name, he didn’t cite a single source in all those things he said,” the former president said, adding that the article was “part of the national media’s attempt to nail Hillary for Obama.

    “Anytime you read a story that slimes a public figure with anonymous quotes, it ought to make the bells go off in your head,” he said.

    Jay Carson, a spokesman for Hillary Clinton’s campaign, said late Monday that “President Clinton was understandably upset about an outrageously unfair article, but the language today was inappropriate, and he wishes he had not used it.”

    Purdum, a former New York Times reporter who covered the Clinton White House and is married to former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers, defended his article on CNN’s “The Situation Room” on Monday afternoon, saying he was “very careful to say there is no clear-cut evidence that President Clinton has done anything improper.”

    “I reject the notion that I’m making an insinuation,” Purdum said. “But I’m very comfortable quoting the people I quote because I know who they are, and I know that they are very senior people who have known President Clinton for a very long time and work for him at very high levels.”

  182. well thats the next question, will he be able to get past a security clearance, the republicans will definitely be researching that one.

  183. William @ TM: brilliant as usual:

    Remember how the hateful Maureen Dowd tried to spin in her mind Hillary possibly being VP; invoking John Nance Garner’s comments about the VP “not being worth a pitcher of warm spit.” We think of Cheney actually running the country; or Clinton allowing Gore theretofore unprecedented power; but the usual history of VPs is marginalization. The Kennedy people scarcely talked to LBJ. Carter picked Mondale to assuage liberals and then ignored all of his positions. Reagan didn’t give GHWB Bush much to do beyond the ceremonial. I honestly think that even if Obama were forced to pick Hillary just to win, it would (as everything else in his career) be solely for his own benefit, not for hers. I hope that Hillary realizes that.

  184. moonpluto, Most of the repugs I know are dancing in the streets. May be I would also join them soon.

  185. 703.469.2008 CALL HILLARYS CAMPAIGN AND TELL THEM THAT YOU WANT HILLARY TO TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION

  186. I will join forces with anyone and everyone to defeat Obama in November.  I am committed to working against him in any way that I can.  I will not vote for him even if Hillary is on the ticket (which I hope is not the case).  There will be lots of celebrating going on in the next few days by the Obama crowd. However, I do believe that the Republicans have been watching this play out and hopefully know the dirty tricks Axelrod has been using. I’ve left the Democratic Party and it feels good.

    Moononpluto I hope you are right. The Democrats deserve to go down in flames as far as I’m concerned. And Kerry, Wexler, Pelosi and my representative Carnahan who supports BO. I hope there is a tape and I hope it sinks his boat.

  187. moononpluto Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    well thats the next question, will he be able to get past a security clearance, the republicans will definitely be researching that one.

    Moon, I have been asking that question for months. How can he get a security clearance????? I don’t trust him to be be CIC.

  188. I just called her campaign, told them to tell hillary to take it to convention

    she said, they have been getting a ton of those calls 😀

    I said good! I expect you will be busy taking more of those calls 😀

    and as i said that the phones in the room were ringing NON STOP! 😀

  189. Kostner…..that is great news about that lady be unseated!

    NOW maybe they will realize how SERIOUS we are !

    we are the BIGGEST FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH!!!

  190. MOON

    security clearance?? you’ve got to be kidding me……of course he’ll get security clearance they just rigged the primary for him
    and i have no doubt they have laid the plans for the GE as well

    only one fly in the ointment…….. GOP and the boat load of stuff on BO to come out yet 😀

  191. SKMF & PAUL (UNIVERSAL)

    not just a video…………. we need an entire website,….. major web presence!!

  192. DJIA,

    yes!
    lets get the ball rolling…

    ‘the nomoreobama’s and his cheatin friends’ web site.

  193. use this form to contact Senator Arlen Specter to express your disappointment in Floridians and Michigans being cut in half and the frauds involved with the caucses and primaries.

    specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm

    Interesting how NOW they have Carville on CNN with Donna? I guess now its okay because the EVER SO DONT YOU DARE TO TOUCH ME is the nominee, ugh

  194. now …….doesn’t that pose some sort of legal issue on the way he conducted the RBC meeting????

  195. djia Says:

    June 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    surprise surprise surprise…….. James Rosevelt Jr is about to come out for

    That was obvious on Saturday.

  196. 9pm eastern time from the girl at the campaign office
    she got a call from NYC they told her 9 pm

  197. skmf12 & Dija:

    Both of your ideas are fantastic! I will start working on a video, absolutely. This is the kind of energy and organization that we need to make sure Obama is defeated and we reclaim our party.

    And, yes, we need to make a “Primary the Coupists” website. We could start working on it tonight, on a free spot such as blogspot, etc.

    This is a great idea!

    We can make a master list of all of those whom supported BHO — especially those like Kerry and Kennedy who went against their constituents — and potential challengers to their seats, etc. How to support opposition to the coupists, donate to their opponents and such.

    Sounds like Kerry could be an early opportunity.

    I can start working on this tonight, even if it is just to get it started. Anyone who wants to help out or start gathering research please do so and we can start aggregating it. Everything — links with quotes from constituents who are pissed these coupists supported BHO, … — will be useful.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  198. oh…….. I walked away and now i don’t if he declared for sure or not

    I had to get dinner out of the oven and missed that part on lou dobbs

    anyone else here watching lou??

  199. paul, count on me to help, but i am not a web site designer so i am glad you will do that part for us

    research, i am good at that 😀

  200. we most certainly need the names of those who came out for obama prior to SD and MT primaries

    I find those SD the most offensive of all

  201. If Hillary ran as an independent, I would cast my first non-Democratic ballot in my life.

  202. LOL. If Purdum says there’s no clear-cut evidence Bill has done anything improper, why even do the story?

  203. From a TM poster.

    “i think i see how the DNC planned this swansong – they set that May 31 hearing so they could give him 59 delegates he did not deserve to add to the tally so he could squeak it out and call himself the nominee by June 3.”

    I agree.

    It’s disgusting

    Disgusting

  204. Just a little reminder on History:

    The Nineteenth Amendment was specifically intended to extend suffrage to women. It was proposed on June 4, 1919 and ratified on August 18, 1920.

    The Nineteenth Amendment was the culmination of the work of many activists in favor of women’s suffrage. One such group called the Silent Sentinels protested in front of the White House for 18 months starting in 1917 to raise awareness of the issue.

    On January 9, 1918, President Woodrow Wilson announced his support of the amendment. The next day, the House of Representatives narrowly passed the amendment but the Senate refused to even debate it until October. When the Senate voted on the amendment in October, it failed by three votes.[1]

    In response, the National Woman’s Party urged citizens to vote against anti-suffrage senators up for election in the fall of 1918. After the 1918 election, most members of Congress were pro-suffrage. On May 21, 1919, the House of Representatives passed the amendment by a vote of 304 to 89, and 2 weeks later on June 4, the Senate finally followed, where the amendment passed by a vote of 56 to 25.[2]

    It was ratified on August 18, 1920, upon its ratification by Tennessee, the thirty-sixth state to do so. Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby certified the ratification on August 26, 1920.

    On February 27, 1922, a challenge to the ratification of the Nineteenth Amendment was rebuffed by the Supreme Court of the United States in Leser v. Garnett, 258 U.S. 130 (1922).
    ****************************************************
    Women NEVER forget!!!

  205. McCain people is SMART, they are now touting Hillary’s virtue… Per Jonathan Martin’s Blog ^

    John McCain portrayed her as a trailblazing model for aspring female politicians yesterday and now one of his top surrogates and vice-presidential prospects is taking the next natural step and promising that they’ll compete for Hillary Clinton’s supporters.

    “I think many of those voters are going to consider and support Senator McCain,” said Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty in an afternoon conference calldesigned to prebut Obama’s speech tonight in St. Paul.

    Pawlenty even compared the two senators, saying they shared important traits of experience and tenacity.

    “They see and saw in Senator Clinton somebody they value experience in and, in many cases — in terms of her personal characteristics — her persistence and strength,” the governor said of Clinton’s backers. “Many of those same characteristics and more are in Senator McCain. So we think he’s going to be able to compete for Senator Clinton’s supporters to a significant degree when and if she terminates her campaign.” See Also

    * Chicago cardinal removes Pfleger

    * Superdelegates surge to Obama

    * Clinton not ready to pack it in

    Showing a bit of deference to the lady nobody, Democrat or Republican, wants to offend these days, Pawlenty made sure more than once to say that such a competition would only take place “if and when she terminates her campaign.”

    As for Obama, Pawlenty sounded a note that rung as quite Hillary’ian — at least the 2007 version.

    The likely Democratic nominee, Pawlenty argued, “is not ready for the job. And Senator McCain is more than ready from day one to assume the role of Commander in Chief.”

    Or should I say Day One.

  206. PAUL AND DJIA,

    HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ON THIS SITE?

    this is the obama site, that has kept track of everyone of their
    super delegates…
    it has it all…

    demconwatch.blogspot.com/

  207. I feel so bad for Gina Gershon, her name will go down in History as “reported” having an affair with the ex president by Vanity Fair. No matter how contrived and false the allegation is…this women’s character is being tarred by an Obama operative in the media.

    What HYPOCRISY the Democratic party is. What a bunch of sleazeballs…this just make me sick. Sexism on Steroids…and it was condone and supported by my own party..FAKE AZZ DEMOCRATS.

  208. Someone say when Hillary speaks tonight. I will not watch the news tonight until she does. Will just follow results online when they start coming in.

  209. paul,

    here is what you can find on this site:
    *****************************************************

    Welcome to 2008 Democratic Convention Watch, the premier independent web site for all the information you need about the 2008 Democratic Convention and the race for the nomination. Here’s a guide to what’s on the site:

    Superdelegate Endorsement List – The first, and still best and most accurate, list of superdelegate endorsements available on the web. No endorsement is added without a verifiable reference to the superdelegate actually stating who they endorse. We don’t add an endorsement based on pure media lists – we’ve found too many mistakes.

    No Endorse List – Who’s left – which superdelegates still haven’t made up their mind.

    Add-on List and Schedule – A complete list of the selected add-on superdelegates and the schedule for future selections.
    Superdelegate History Tracker – Charts and graphs of endorsements by week since mid-January.

    Superdelegates by Position – Breakdown by Governors, Senators, etc.
    Superdelegate Ups and Downs – Changes in the number of superdelegates since December.

    Ultimate Delegate Tracker – Pledged delegates by state and media organation, all on one page

    ***************************************************

  210. I just don’t know how any of these super’s and Pundits can keep a straight face
    through all the lies?

    I mean, Obama didn’t win anything ……the RBC meeting proves he STOLE this election with the help of his
    fat walleted buddy’s (money in wallet from Axelrod)

    I am a fighter, I will continue the fight through and beyond the general election
    but i am so F’n Pissed right now i just want to tear MO’s eyes out 👿

  211. Russert, Olbermann and Tweetie engaging in group jerk off over John McCain’s comments about the media’s bashing of Hillary.

  212. Isn’t it a bit funny that the McCain team has nicer things to say about Hillary than Obama’s? It shows who is the smarter of the two. If Obama is the nominee, I certainly hope McCain puts a woman on the ticket and moves the GOP to the solid center. He will not have to worry any more about his own right wing. The DNC will have given them a reason to vote, to vote against Obambi. He will just need to move to the center to get the McCain Democrats and with a woman as his VP, many of Hillary’s supporters will come over too.

    It will be important that Obama not only lose, but lose so badly that we do not have to deal with him again.

  213. molly, What comments? I knew McCain defended Hillary today (and yesterday) but I didn’t realize he mentioned the media. Good for him.

  214. Yes he did, Paula. I just caught Russert et al., discussing it. I had to turn channels because I was throwing up.

  215. Carbynew: Thank you for the history reminder. Alice Paul, who led hunger strikes from jail at that time, drafted the first version of the Equal Rights Amendment, which has yet to pass. We need radical action at this time for our voices to be heard.

    CNN is talking the freedom riders and the end of slavery. But what i would like to point out is that he has not been nomnated yet. the nomination doesn’t happen till August. Now CNN is showing results before the polls have closed and i am truly offended that they post results before the polls closed and fake AP reports. Somebody needs to sit on the media in this country. We need radical action.

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