Barack Obama’s Church

The Katherine Harris of this election cycle – Nancy Pelosi -is making threats.

Hillary Clinton has hinted that she is prepared to take her fight to fully seat Florida and Michigan all the way to the party’s convention in late August, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says that’s not going to happen.

In an interview with her hometown newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle, the California Democrat said she is prepared to “step in” if the presidential race does not resolve itself by the end of next month.

“I will step in,” Pelosi told the paper. “Because we cannot take this fight to the convention…It must be over before then.”

Pelosi, who will serve as chair of the convention, has largely stayed on the sidelines during her party’s prolonged primary race. But the House Speaker has said Democratic superdelegates should not overturn the pledged delegate winner, and has warned of irreparable harm if they do so. Barack Obama officially won the majority of pledged delegates in last Tuesday’s primary contests, though it’s been clear for several weeks Clinton could not overtake him in that category.

Pelosi also indicated she opposes the Clinton campaign’s desire that both Florida and Michigan’s delegations be fully seated at the convention. The party stripped both states of their entire delegations last year after they moved their presidential primaries ahead in the nominating calendar.

Pelosi said she agreed the two states should be seated in some way, but said only “in a way that is not destructive to any sense of order in the party.”

If you have no order and no discipline in terms of party rules, people will be having their primary in the year before the presidential election,” she said. “So there has to be some penalty.”

The Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee meets Saturday in Washington to consider exactly how to seat both states. It’s likely the committee will vote to meet the rule-breaking states halfway — a move that will help Clinton close the delegate gap with Obama but not overtake him.

Nancy Pelosi increasingly sounds like the drag-queen director of “The Producers” stomping his foot calling for “order, we must have order” while rehearsing the big musical number “Springtime For Hitler”. The drag-queen director, like Nancy Pelosi, completely unaware of the irony of what he is saying.

Little wonder that we have called for Pelosi to resign as a co-chair of the Democratic Convention because she has proven over and over again she is not a fair and neutral minister in this Democratic nomination race.

Instead of stomping her heels, Nancy should consult Ted Kennedy and ask him why he fought all the way to the convention against an incumbent Democratic president in 1980.

Nancy also needs to worry more about Republicans and what they will do to Obama.

At any moment, Republicans in the U.S. Senate could ask for an ethics investigation into the purchase of Obama’s house. Contrary to what Obama supporters say, the questions about the Rezko/Obama house have never been investigated. Obama helped Rezko entities acquire funding from taxpayers in the tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars. Rezko “assisted” Obama in the purchase of the big mansion Michelle had her eyes on. Republicans will not, unlike Democrats, avert their eyes to these ethical questions.

Republican hypocrites, who prevented the votes of Florida from being counted in 2000, are now calling out Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi on the hypocrisy of the Democratic? Party and the Obama protection racket.

The Democrats begrudge the 2000 Bush-Gore Florida recount. They blithely complain when Republicans seek valid measures preventing voter fraud. Why then, are the Democrats suddenly blind, deaf, and dumb when Senator Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee openly avow to disenfranchise voters 1,749,920 in Florida and 594,398 in Michigan? Not only are Obama and the DNC perpetrating a “hi-tech” lynching, but it is blatantly unconstitutional and may even be criminal.

The Democrats allege Florida and Michigan violated the DNC Rule 11.A prohibiting a caucus or primary before Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire. DNC Rule 20.C.1 specifies the punitive measures that both states lose 50% of their vote: Florida 210 delegates, Michigan 156 delegates. The DNC Rules Committee will be meeting this coming Saturday, May 31 to hear Obama’s utterly bizarre plan allowing only the superdelegates (ironically the votes he desperately needs to capture the nomination) to be seated, while delegates elected by popular suffrage are repudiated by being half-counted, oddly reminiscent of a colonial enumeration of freed “Black Men and Indians.”

By why is there even a debate? Constitutional law is unequivocal. Every vote cast must be counted. This constitutional principle, pronounced by the United States Supreme Court since Ex parte Yarborough (1884) and reiterated as recently as Gray v. Sanders (1963), is simply beyond reproach. This rock-bottom constitutional demand applies to primaries as well as general elections. United States v. Classic (1941). Deliberately refusing to count votes cast may, under certain fact scenarios, constitute a Federal crime, United States v. Classic, citing now Section 241 of the Federal Crimes Code. Reiterating black letter law stated in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections (1966), the high court reasserted in Bush v. Gore (2000) that “once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the State may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person’s vote over that of another.”

Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi have turned against the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), now the Senate Judiciary’s ranking minority member, asserted to us in an exclusive interview, that although as a learned attorney he remains obliged to see “how it plays out,” that “it may well be worthwhile” to hold Congressional hearings on the Democrats’ refusal to seat Florida and Michigan at the Democratic National Convention. “It’s certainly something I want to consider,” said Specter, ruefully hinting things might be different if he was still the Judiciary Chairman. “The essence of democracy is the right to vote,” asserted Specter, the Democrat’s contemplation of not seating Florida and Michigan may constitute a fundamental violation of democratic principles. He believes that the Congress must act “very promptly.”

Specter emphasized while Republicans are striking bold initiatives such as GOP onDemand™ to promote full voter inclusiveness, the Democrats’ direction in the opposite direction is more than paradoxical, it is “hypocrisy.” “They are preaching one thing and practicing another” angrily complained the former prosecutor, who long fought the legendary Philadelphia Democratic machine’s ghost voting and other voter frauds. [snip]

Specter reminds Obama that it is fully within the Congress’ prerogative to investigate the Democrats’ machinations; the presumption that political parties as private entities are immune from oversight or court intervention has long been judicially discredited. Specter also suggested that Florida’s Governor Charlie Crist or Attorney General Bill McCollum and Michigan’s Attorney General Michael Cox or Secretary of State Terri Land Lynn contemplate what would be required to be prepared on June 2 to go into Federal court paren patriae to see emergency injunctive relief under “Section 1983,” the legal parlance for the Civil Rights “Anti-Ku Klux Klan” Act of 1871, if the DNC May 31 hearings fail to adhere to the fundamental one-man, one-vote constitutional rule.

The Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi wing of the Democratic? Party have surrendered the high moral ground to Republican hypocrites. Republicans lecturing Democrats on voting rights is an outrage. But so low have Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi bought the Democratic? Party that Democrats are now morally defenseless on what used to be core Democratic principles.

Can it possibly be that Republicans at their convention will fully enfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan while the Democratic? Party will disenfranchise millions of voters?

And while the GOP concedes Florida’s early calendaring of the Presidential primary caused consternation, at least the “Republicans counted Florida, in stark contrast to the Democrats who didn’t count Florida,” according to RNC’s Alex Conant. Highly reliable sources inform me that Senator John McCain is absolute in insisting on fully seating both Florida and Michigan delegations without any penalties, and as one source put it “what the nominee wants, he likely gets.”

Michigan State Republican Chairman Saul Anuzi, one of the most conscientious and public-spirited leaders in either party, reiterated the bipartisan efforts throughout Michigan to seat fellow Wolverines at the Democratic convention, as it is beyond reproach that “every vote deserves to be counted.” Anuzi, remains as baffled as everyone as to the Obama’s “apologists” spin-doctoring Michigan’s ostracization, warning voter anger from Obama’s boycott of Michigan is not “going away” by a “perfunctory photo-op.”

Florida’ National Republican Committeeman Paul Senft pointed to the hypocrisy of Obama “using Florida as an ATM” while agreeing in writing, to refuse to “talk to voters.” Senft’s courtly manner couldn’t disguise his own frustration of the irony of liberals resurrecting the “ghosts of 2000″ in the recent HBO movie while openly disenfranchising the very same Floridian voters.

Democrats with any intellectual honesty know the Republicans have a point – a hypocritical point, but a point never-the-less.

Several prominent civil rights attorneys, obviously speaking off the record being mindful they’re outsiders, nonetheless told us that the without question, Democrats must fully seat the Florida and Michigan delegations. (Their response was as if we were asking a “no-brainer” akin to whether kids be eating their vegetables). The universal consensus that the possibility of embroiling the Democratic presidential nominee in criminal proceedings in the midst of a campaign unquestionably should not be a risk worth entertaining.

They also routinely disbelieve Obama’s contention Florida and Michigan must be punished for violating party rules, which although viscerally appealing, is utterly fallacious as a matter of law. If Obama was purportedly “upset” at Florida and Michigan primary dates, he was required by law to act before the primary vote, not afterwards. It is fundamental law that Equity hears not the Sloth coming into court.

Democratic response to Specter is deafening by their utterly stolid silence. DNC press secretary Stacy Paxton did not respond to our phone calls to her office and cell.

Liberal entities such as the Center for American Progress failed to respond. MoveOn (which we, the Trustees of the Republican Leadership Trust are the newly established GOP counterpart) avoids direct press contact by hiding behind a digital wall that requires the Fourth Estate to be vetted through an Orwellian email screening process.

Obama’s response is his website promoting a “National Voter Protection Center” urging us that “in this year’s election we have a historic opportunity to bring more people than ever back to the political process and an essential part of that is ensuring every vote counts.”

Obama reputes that he was a prominent civil rights attorney, litigating hundreds of voting rights cases. In his September 28, 2007 Howard University speech, Obama implores: “The [students] who left their homes to march in the streets of Birmingham and Montgomery; the mothers who walked instead of taking the bus after a long day of doing somebody else’s laundry — they didn’t brave fire hoses and Billy clubs so that their grandchildren and their great-grandchildren would still wonder at the beginning of the 21st century whether their vote would be counted . . .” Come again?

Even the ACLU, the “stalwart” Constitutional guardian, prolifically “promising” to get back, failed to produce a single person to justify Obama. And this is despite pleading, as I was once, an ACLU board member for several years, albeit a lone conservative Republican in a sea of liberal, Democratic activists.

If this is so black and white, so basic Constitutional jurisprudence, why isn’t the press demanding someone’s head on a platter? Why are the liberal activists, who defend Mumia Adu-Jamal without blinking an eye, suddenly blind as two million Americans lose their right to vote? Is the Pelosi-Reid Political Correct Doublespeak so powerful as to usurp the very essence of our democracy? No matter where one hails on the political spectrum, as my fellow co-Trustee, Fred Hess, who also serves as an advisor to the son of the legendary Frank Rizzo, observed “there is never an excuse, under any circumstances, to defy the right to vote.

Go to www.GOPonDemand.com right now to learn how you can help stop the Obama/ Democrat/ MoveOn doublespeak and require the Democrats obey the 14th Amendment guarantee of equal protection under law. In America, absolutely no one deserves his ballot ripped up by the liberal Democrats. The students and mothers who marched in the streets of Birmingham deserve better, Mr. Obama, and it isn’t you.

Can any Democrat say, after 2000, that we could ever imagine a day when the Democratic? Party could be so humiliated, so defenseless, so morally bankrupt, in comparison to the Republican rhetoric? Deeds, not words, should be the Democratic compass. Hillary is fighting for voting rights, Obama is fighting against voting rights.

The now invisible on Big Media broadcasts, Craig Crawford calls out Obama on his hypocrisy and lies too.

Among the myths surrounding the Democratic fight over seating delegates from Florida and Michigan, one that stands out is a persistent inference that Barack Obama was somehow involuntarily kept off the Michigan primary ballot.

Obama chose to have his name erased from the Michigan ballot — a decision that now presents one of the thorniest issues for the Democratic National Committee’s rules panel meeting on Saturday to hear arguments in this dispute.

How can delegates be awarded to someone who was not even on the ballot? In sports, that would be like giving points to a team that forfeits the game.

The Obama camp signaled on Wednesday that the Democratic frontrunner is willing to concede some Florida and Michigan delegates to Hillary Rodham Clinton, but questions such as what to do about Obama’s Michigan forfeit still hang.

It was the Illinois senator’s written and personally signed request to the Michigan Secretary of State’s office on Oct. 8, 2007, that prompted his exclusion. Obama’s choice to stay off the ballot was a conscious political maneuver designed to please Iowa Democrats angered by Michigan’s early primary date.

Clinton, to her detriment in Iowa, chose to stay on Michigan’s ballot. As strange as some of Clinton’s demands might seem to be in this matter, it would be truly bizarre to give any Michigan delegates to a candidate who voluntarily took his name off the ballot.

More invisible man Crawford:

Myths abound in the latest Florida vote-count fight. For starters, this is not the fault of state Democratic leaders. The Republican-controlled state legislature, directed by its GOP governor Charlie Crist, created this situation.

Sure, Florida Democrats did not vigorously oppose the Republican plan to move up Florida’s primary on the calendar, defying the rules in both parties. Instead, they negotiated a deal to ensure a paper trail in all future balloting.

And for their efforts in leveraging a position of weakness to gain something helpful for future elections, Florida Democrats get hammered by a Democratic National Committee intent on diminishing the state’s influence in naming a presidential nominee.

Why did national Democrats fear Florida so much? It is, after all, the nation’s largest swing state.

Um, Craig, we all know the answer to your Florida fear question. Obama could not win Florida and Michigan so an excuse was created to disenfranchise their votes. The votes of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina – states which violated the same “rule” as Florida and Michigan – were counted because Obama expected to win there.

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Hillary is fighting for the voting rights of Florida and Michigan voters. Hillary is also campaigning in Puerto Rico. Ricky Martin endorsed Hillary yesterday. The few polls from Puerto Rico look good. Here is a first hand report on Hillary and Bill in Puerto Rico:

I want to share with all of you my glorious day yesterday with Hillary, Bill and Chelsea, here in Puerto Rico. That is how I will always think of it. My friend, a staunch Hillary supporter, who is a biochemist with a Ph.D. (mentioned for those who would assume we are all racist high-school drop-outs) and I went to the Memorial Day Ceremony in Old San Juan, in which Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton would be speaking. We parked the car a good distance away to avoid the traffic and hiked into Old San Juan — a cliff dropping down from our right to the ocean. My friend was wearing her Hillary t-shirt and carrying a sign that said “Puertorriqueños con Hillary”, and I was waving a Hillary flag that said “Hillary para Presidenta”.

The Ceremony was held in front of a memorial monument with the names of all the Puerto Rican soldiers who have been killed in all the wars since World War 1 that America has fought in. My friend and I waited on a little hill under a date palm for the VIPs to arrive. The sunlight was in that golden stage and a slight breeze was blowing. Though not overly-conspicuous, the Secret Service were all around. I could imagine their eyes darting left and right behind their dark shades.

When the photographers started running, we knew we would soon see the Clinton family appear. A cheer went up when we spotted them. Hillary was in her yellow jacket and was dazzlingly beautiful. Handsome Bill looked rather red — I hope he got red from having had a chance to lie by a pool in the sunshine! Chelsea looked radiant. They crossed an area between two fountains to the outdoor stage, and my friend and I had a perfect view of them on stage where they went to sit.

There was a hush when Senator Clinton finally began to speak, after the rituals of the anthems, the military flag presentations, and the preliminary speeches. It was not a political event, but a somber and dignified Memorial Day ceremony. Her words were moving and inspiring. One couldn’t help but picture her as President of the United States.

Afterwards, my friend and I went to the campaign headquarters, where the Clintons would be. There was a crush of people, and at first the Secret Service wouldn’t let anyone else go in, but we finally managed to get inside. First, Chelsea came out to greet people. She is such a lovely young woman. Then Bill came out. It was hard to get close, but my friend pulled me by the hand and wormed us through the crowd.

I was holding a college yearbook that i was hoping I could get Bill to sign. My friend, who is more daring than me, said we should hold up the open book and yell, “Georgetown! Georgetown!”, which we did. You see, Bill Clinton and I were undergraduate students at Georgetown at the same time. We were both on the East Campus — he in Foreign Service and I in Linguistics. The page with his picture as class president finally caught his eye, and he autographed it for me, right above his name on the page where you see his signature as “William J. Clinton”. This time he signed “Bill Clinton”. Times have changed!

My friend and I will have cherished memories of “our day with the Clintons”. It will be something to tell my future grandchildren about when I show them the college yearbook with the signature of the 42nd President of the United States.

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311 thoughts on “Barack Obama’s Church

  1. Amazing post, as usual, Admin.

    More proof that today’s Trinity video has the Obama camp panicking — from No Quarter:

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    So Barack, a simple question. Do words matter or not?

    UPDATE: It is important to remember that the priest in this video is one of Obama’s official spiritual advisors. More here if you have the time.)

    2nd UPDATE: Here is the screenshot of Fr. Pfleger’s endorsement of Barack — which Barack Obama CHOSE to place on his official campaign site. (And, below the fold, is one more memorable video of the “good” father.)

    3rd UPDATE: Pfleger’s faith testimonial now scrubbed from the Obama campaign’s official website. Tacit admission of guilt, Barack?

  2. More on Michigan. This proposal will without doubt disenfranchise Michigan voters. Hillary will not even get all the delegates she won in the primary. But at least Michigan is fighting for full representation. Michigan must have full representation but in accordance with how the voters voted, not a backroom deal:

    http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/29/top-michigan-democrats-ask-dnc-to-seat-full-delegation/

    Rep. Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Levin, UAW President Gettelfinger and DNC Member Dingell send letter to the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee ahead of Saturday’s meeting calling for all 157 delegates to count.

    Group argues the party has “selectively” enforced its calendar rule: “When the Rules and Bylaws Committee itself decided not to follow its own newly adopted, hard-fought for rules and granted a waiver to New Hampshire, it set the stage for the present situation.”

    The letter is here:

    http://thepage.time.com/full-letter-from-michigan-dems-to-dnc-members/

    excerpt:

    While Michigan Democrats were disappointed that our state was not selected for one of the pre-window contests, we appreciated the new rule for adding a bit of much-needed diversity to the early nominating process, and as a first step toward breaking the Iowa-New Hampshire lock on the process. We notified the DNC that we would abide by the new calendar and its sequence provided that other states did the same. To be clear – the key issue which the new rule resolved was the sequence of the pre-window states, not just the number of pre-window states.

    But at a press conference in Dover, New Hampshire last August 9, the New Hampshire Secretary of State indicated he was going to schedule his state’s primary before the date specified in the DNC rule, clearly defying the sequence and timing the Rules and Bylaws Committee had set. Michigan Democratic leaders wrote to Governor Dean asking if the DNC intended to enforce the rule against New Hampshire, but the DNC refused to act or even to answer our letters for months.

    The Democratic National Committee then proceeded to selectively enforce its calendar rule. On December 3, the Rules and Bylaws Committee voted to give New Hampshire a waiver to move from third to second place in the sequence. Michigan requested a waiver and was denied. When the Rules and Bylaws Committee itself decided not to follow its own newly adopted, hard-fought for rules and granted a waiver to New Hampshire, it set the stage for the present situation.

    How do we move forward and put all of our energy into winning the White House in November? We all agree that winning Michigan is crucial to that goal.

    [The below part of the letter is unacceptable – it gives Obama delegates in a race he did not compete in and gives Hillary less delegates than the number she won at the election.]

    As a result, we recommended to the Michigan Democratic Party that the pledged delegates be apportioned 69 to Senator Clinton and 59 to Senator Obama. That approach splits the difference between the 73/55 position of the Clinton campaign and the 64/64 position of the Obama campaign. Our recommendation was based on our belief that both candidates have legitimate arguments about the Michigan primary.

  3. admin,

    did you see two new polls out of Michigan today.

    SurveyUSA
    McCain 41
    Obama 37

    ERIC/MIA
    McCain 44
    Obama 40

    Loser!

  4. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin To Meet With McCain VP Search Team

    Per Hot Air:

    So why am I warming up to her? First because the GOP needs new faces, figuratively and literally, and as faces go you can scarcely do better than hers right now (figuratively and literally). Read Fred Barnes’s profile of her from last summer: She’s excellent on ethics, has experience with energy policy, and maintains balance on the environment, opposing the polar bear ruling but calling for reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. Second, obviously, having her on the ticket would steal some of Obama’s media juice as the candidate with the Narrative versus the same old patrician Republican crap. And third, well, watch this. We’re not going to win the woman vote, but there are surely some Ferraros out there disgruntled enough about how Hillary was treated to give McCain/Palin a very close look. That’s why it’s silly, actually, to care how many electoral votes Alaska would deliver. Her appeal, unlike Crist’s or Ridge’s, has to do with who she is, not where she’s from. Who’s to say she wouldn’t help deliver Florida or Pennsylvania more than either of them?

  5. I find it’s extremely laughable that Obamabots believe any woman on his ticket can save women voters in exodus…

    They propped up names such as KS governor Kathleen Sebelius as V.P.

    Make no mistake, naming another woman other than Clinton is going to be a huge insult to Hillary’s loyal women supporters. Hillary is NOT a toket woman candidate, she has earned everything up to today. Many of us believe Obama is unqualified, and Hillary is the qualified candidate in democratic primary. Many of Hillary’s supporters deeply resent the idea of having a minority or a woman as the nominee just because of his skin color or gender. This is precisely why we’re so opposed to Obama’s candidacy. He is simply NOT qualified. His entire farcade is based on fawning media, the close to 100% support from his AA base etc.

    To let an affirmative action candidate Obama to choose a token woman who has NO national profile is just crazy. It’s an insult, and will only drive more women voters away from the democratic party.

  6. Sonia, don’t know if you’re a troll or not, but you sure do come off sounding like a 12y/o.

  7. filbertsf Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    Sonia, don’t know if you’re a troll or not, but you sure do come off sounding like a 12y/o.

    WOW -U R SO KIND AND you use respectable words . i like you even more .

    and i will repeat again — don,t discuss fundraising plans ,or any secret plans on open -talk to each other with some codes or through e-mails ,

    take care —

  8. hannity all over this new trinity video on noquarter!! he just said he has the audio and will be playing it in a bit 😀

  9. SONIA4HILLARY Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    filbertsf Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    Sonia, don’t know if you’re a troll or not, but you sure do come off sounding like a 12y/o.

    BTW– I AM 28

    and some 12 yr olds know more than adults .

    so be kind to 12 yr olds .

  10. 5/29/2008
    Washington Automatic Delegate Eileen Macoll Endorses Hillary

    Washington Automatic Delegate Eileen Macoll announced her support for
    Hillary Clinton today. Macoll is vice chair of the Washington State
    Democratic Party.

    “I’m taking this step today because I have been inspired by Hillary’s
    bold commitment to solving our nation’s toughest challenges,” Macoll
    said. “On the issues that matter most-from establishing universal
    health care to improving our schools to ending the war in Iraq-she has
    never backed down and never wavered. Hillary has what it takes to beat
    John McCain this Fall and win back the White House.

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=7855

  11. texan4hillary Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    5/29/2008
    Washington Automatic Delegate Eileen Macoll Endorses Hillary

    OH -WOW

    THATS GOOD

    see even superdelegates can change thier mind . so i hope they all switch to HILLARY . unless some of them got fat pockets with money from obama as donations

  12. filbertsf Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    Sonia, personal experience?

    YES

    I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO USE A PC VERY GOOD , my 12 yr old neighbor girl showed me like 4 -5 yrs ago . she even corrects my speeling mistakes .

  13. Kostner, Is the Obama campaign looking at this woman from Alaska or is the McCain campaign? I am confused!

  14. confloyd Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    Kostner, Is the Obama campaign looking at this woman from Alaska or is the McCain campaign? I am confused!

    It is the McCain campaign (I think).

  15. i saw pallin on a span show and she was great. seemed levelheaded. big on ehtics and has reformed alaska. she spoke of ommon sense rule-for global warming initiatives. if hillary isnt the nom mcain would be afool not to picka woman to run. of course we forget the one he could run that would really do the dems in -kay baily hutchinson of tx.

  16. WOWZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! & THIS WAS ON CNN.COM!!!

    Obama played hardball in first Chicago campaign

    By Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html
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    (CNN) — When the Democratic National Committee meets Saturday on the thorny issue of seating the Florida and Michigan delegations at its August convention, party officials will have to fashion a solution that satisfies supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton and presidential nominee front-runner Sen. Barack Obama.
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    Sen. Barack Obama showed he was willing to use bare-knuckle tactics during his first race in Chicago.

    It may take a Solomon-like decision to appease both candidates.

    Clinton has argued the primary results of two of the nation’s largest states should count because otherwise millions of voters are being disenfranchised. Obama has said he is willing to work out some compromise.

    But he is insistent the primary results are invalid since the two states failed to follow party rules and the rules are the rules.

    The DNC has not seated the Florida and Michigan delegates because the two states violated party edicts in holding their primaries early.

    Although neither candidate campaigned in the two states, Clinton won about 50 percent of the Florida vote, compared to 33 percent for Obama. She won 55 percent of the vote in Michigan, where Obama’s name was not on the ballot.

    In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago’s gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

    As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of new voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.
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    The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

    “That was Chicago politics,” said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. “Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right?” Kass said. “It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race he made sure voters had just one choice.”

    Obama’s challenge was perfectly legal, said Jay Stewart, with the Chicago’s Better Government Association. While records of the challenges are no longer on file for review with the election board, Stewart said Obama is not the only politician to resort to petition challenges to eliminate the competition.

    “He came from Chicago politics,” Stewart said. “Politics ain’t beanbag as they say in Chicago. You play with your elbows up and you’re pretty tough and ruthless when you have to be. Sen. Obama felt that’s what was necessary at the time, that’s what he did. Does it fit in with the rhetoric now? Perhaps not.”

    The Obama campaign called this report “a hit job.” They insisted CNN talk to a state representative who supports Obama, because, according to an Obama spokesman, she would be objective. But when we called her she said she can’t recall details of petition challenges, who engineered them for the Obama campaign or why all the candidates were challenged.

    But Will Burns does. Now running himself for a seat in the Illinois legislature, Burns was a young Obama volunteer during the presidential candidate’s first race.

    Burns was one of the contingents of volunteers and lawyers who had the tedious task of going over each and every petition submitted by the other candidates, including those of Alice Palmer.

    “The rules are there for a reason,” Burns told CNN.

    He said challenging petitions is a smart way to avoid having to run a full-blown expensive race.

    “One of the first things you do whenever you’re in the middle of a primary race, especially in primaries in Chicago, because if you don’t have signatures to get on the ballot, you save yourself a lot of time and effort from having to raise money and have a full blown campaign effort against an incumbent,” Burns said.
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    Burns said he believed Obama did not enjoy using the tactic to knock off Palmer.

    “It was not something he particularly relished,” Burns said. “It was not something that I thought he was happy about doing.”

    But Obama did it anyway, clearing the field of any real competition.

    Obama’s staff would not comment on what the senator thinks about that petition challenge now. Instead, it referred CNN to this 2007 comment made by Obama to the Chicago Tribune.

    “To my mind we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up,” the senator is quoted in the Tribune. “My conclusion was that if you couldn’t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be.”

    But in that same newspaper story Obama praised Palmer.

    “I thought she was a good public servant,” he said.

    Palmer, who has campaigned for Clinton, told CNN, she did not want to be part of this story. Obama supporters claim Palmer has only herself to blame since she indicated she would not run for the 1996 state Senate and instead aimed for Congress. After losing in that bid she returned to running for the state Senate seat — a move Obama supporters claim amounted to reneging on a promise not to run.

    But Palmer supporters, who did not want to be identified, said she never anointed Obama as her successor and the retelling of the story by Obama supporters is designed to distract from the fact he muscled his way into office.

    One other opponent who Obama eliminated by challenging his petitions, Gha-is Askia, said he has no hard feelings today about the challenge and supports Obama’s presidential aspirations.

    But back at the time he was running for state Senate, Askia said he was dismayed Obama would use such tactics.

    “It wasn’t honorable,” he said. “I wouldn’t have done it. That’s what I am saying.”

    He said the Obama team challenged every single one of his petitions on what Askia called “technicalities.”

    If names were printed instead of signed in cursive writing, they were declared invalid. If signatures were good but the person gathering the signatures wasn’t properly registered, then those petitions also were thrown out.

    Askia came up 69 signatures short of the required needed to be on the ballot.

    Kass, the Chicago Tribune columnist, said the national media is naive when it comes to Chicago politics, which is a serious business.

    He said they have bought into a narrative that Obama is strictly a reformer. When the truth, Kass says, is he is a bare-knuckled politician. And using the rules to win his first office is part of who Obama is.

    “It’s not the tactics of ‘let’s all people come together and put your best ideas forward and the best ideas win,’ ” Kass said. “That’s the spin, that’s in the Kool-Aid. You can have some. Any flavor. But the real deal was get rid of Alice Palmer.

    “There are those who think that registering people to vote and getting them involved in politics and then using this tactic in terms of denying Alice Palmer the right to compete, that these things are inconsistent. And guess what? They are. They are inconsistent. But that’s the politics he plays.”

    And this weekend DNC delegates will have to decide what kind of rules it will invoke in helping choose its next candidate

  17. Filbertsf,

    Yes it is the same person mention on the previous thread. Do not fall for the tricks that are being exhibited here. It is someone pretending to be some thing that they are not. They are trying too hard to appear computer illiterate.

    Admin,

    Thanks for the excellent posts here. I usually do not have time to post, but when I saw that the CULT-AID DRINKER here again, I knew I had to say something.

    Have you ever thought of putting these post in a book about this democratic? primary race?

  18. kay bailey, yes, she could do it. I watched her ride her quarter horse in the Houston livestock show and parade. She is quiet impressive. Watch out Dems the republicans are trying to outsmart you, with your fixation of nominating the loser BO!

  19. Looks like Rupert is in love with BO. He was very down on McCain in his interview. He also said he was behind the NY Post endorsement of BO. We may see a big change in Fox news.

  20. Clinton Reflects on Long Campaign As Contest Enters Final Week
    by Aaron Bruns

    Hillary Clinton visited the back of her press plane for the first time in weeks after a campaign stop in Rapid City, SD, waxing reflective about the 16-month primary campaign that’s now nearing an end.

    “I feel so good about the process, you know? I feel like this has been a really positive, productive primary season in so many ways,” she said. “Maybe we can make it more sensible, but given the rules that we had I feel really good about going through the weekend.”

    “We’ll see what the Rules and Bylaws Committee does with Michigan and Florida we’ll see what happens in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota and then we’ll see where we are,” she continued. The Rules Committee meets in Washington on Saturday to determine how to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. The Clinton campaign has said it wants all the delegates and superdelegates seated based on the January election results, but has signaled a willingness to compromise.

    Clinton also said she feels a sense of accomplishment as the primaries wind down. “I have really enjoyed the process of being able to go out and see this country anew ,” she said. “I did it in an abrivitated way in ’92 but I’ve done it in a much more thorough and comprehensive way, as you have known because you have been with me so much of the time.”

    “This is a great, resilient, resourceful country that has been badly led, but the capacitites are all there. We just have to unleash them again.”

    Sticking it out to the very end is a clear source of pride for the New York Senator – who has faced daunting delegate math for months. “I feel good because so many people react to my having stayed in. People have been trying to get me out since January, basically, and you know I just wasn’t going anywhere,” she said. “I feel good about that because that’s a reflection of a lot of peoples experience in life.”

    “One woman grabbed my hand said ‘I coach basketball you don’t walk off the court until the game is over.’ And people understand that. So I feel really good about all of this. Obviously we’re all exhausted but that goes with the territory.”

    Clinton said she’d received a positive response to her memo to superdelegates explaining her case for the nomination — but only once she got back from the South Dakota hinterlands. “We were out of cellphone and black berry range, maybe you weren’t but I was,” she said to one reporter. “We got some [reaction] when we got to Rapid City, we got some good feedback. You know, a lot of people didn’t know what was in it which is obviously why we sent it, because I think there’s some good information in it.”

    She also dished on her Mount Rushmore trip earlier in the day, saying she’d added it to her schedule at the last minute because she didn’t want the press corps to miss such an iconic monument. “I though it was extremely cool,” she said. “I was just looking out for you.”

    As for the extra sleep she and her traveling press missed out on? “Oh come on, you’re in for a dime you’re in for a dollar. You’re a trooper, you’ve been on this adventure every step of the way, what’s another early morning to go to Mount Rushmore?” she said to one young reporter who’s followed her regularly since November.

    “You know I had been there before you were born. I did a lot of things before you were born, thank God you weren’t around or I wouldn’t have enjoyed any of it.”

    Next stop after South Dakota: a return trip to Puerto Rico — a prospect the Senator from New York seemed excited about. “Yeah, Puerto Rico was fun wasn’t it fun? ” she said of her trip over Memorial Day weekend. “We’re going back yeah, more dancing, more beaches.”

  21. Hillmeister, I’ve had my suspicions, too. Like I said, I trust Okie’s judgment. She’s one smart and intuitive atty.

    Since we’re on the topic of GOP women I could live with, I like Olympia Snowe, Senator from ME. She’s an independent thinker. Very moderate. Anti-war.

  22. Kostner…I agree – and i am starting to look forward to a McCain Presidency with a Dem Congress. I really wish people would read Obama: A Post Modern Coup. Everything’s in there….everything you want to know about why the real power in this country has propped up Obama for President. Do folks really think BO got all this money for nothing? This explains it all, and pulls together the pieces. Follow the Money!

  23. kit, I wouldn’t say I look forward to a McCain Presidency. I don’t look forward to anything GOP. But I will say I look forward to Hill’s nomination.

  24. hawk, you were gone for a long time, weren’t you? Many of us here know what we know and with all due respect, please don’t tell me what to do.

  25. If hillary’s not nominated, then I would prefer McCain to Obama. I don’t know that I would vote for him, but it’s preferable. Did you catch Michlle Obama’s latest? I detest her:

    When asked about her husband’s security in the White House and Clinton’s RFK remarks at a Phoenix fundraiser Tuesday, she reassures the crowd saying:

    “Send us good vibes. Pray for us. Think positive thoughts. But most of all, be vigilant. Be vigilant about stopping this kind of talk. It’s not funny. You don’t have to like Barack to dislike that kind of talk. Be vigilant about stopping that kind of talk.”

  26. Sarah is McCain’s potential V.P.

    Back to D. I want to puke every time I see Pelosi. This woman is vile. She is ugly, can’t utter a complete sentence, a typical pink code type of women politician. I may sound harsh on women, but why the hell would women want this trash to represent them?? She makes George W. Bush look positive.

    The democratic party has a clear choice: Hillary, she is tough, extremely intelligent, competent, and pretty, yes I do believe she’s good looking. However, those wimpy so-called progressive males keep on giving us Pelosi. It’s almost like they want to showcase the worst type of woman to the nation and make a point women are not up to the job.

    Back to Sarah. Lots of buzz and excitement on her today on many right wing blogs. She was a beauty queen, young, pretty. She is very competent. Her approval rating is up to 80% in Alaska. She is also a reformer, not afraid to battle big oil companies in Alaska. Sarah also backed a guy in GOP primary to challenge the corrupt incumbent.

    Sarah gave birth to a baby with Down syndrome only one month ago. Her oldest son is in the army. Her husband is a fisherman… Again, lots of appealing stories to outsell to the MSM over a waning and tiresome Obama storyline coming into Nov.

  27. saw it on hillforum -so pasting here –pls vote

    5/29: Vote Hannity poll “Can Hillary really win?”

    ——————————————————————————–

    http://www.hannity.com/

    Quote:
    Almost over…
    Sen. Clinton seems to think the race isn’t over to the White House and her husband has been saying she can still win.

    Can Hillary really win?
    Yes 42%
    No 58%

  28. mj, ridiculous isn’t it? Referring to anything Kennedy is now an assault on the Obamas. In that Joan Walsh video, the skinny bald guy said Hillary should apologize to Obama. I’m glad Walsh said, “For what? Obama wasn’t even mentioned.”

  29. clintondem

    I thought murdock was backing hillary? or was i wrong on that?

    at any rate…….. bad dogs lay down together

  30. Hillary still has lots of choices.

    1) She can take the fight to the convention; if she fails, she should
    2) RUN for the vice president.

    I read some articles saying the V.P. is technically selected by delegates. In my honest opinion, Hillary should NOT accept Obama’s runnign mate, she should RUN FOR V.P. if Obama steals the nominee from her. She should dare the delegates to NOT give her the V.P under such scenario.

    If she successfully clinches the V.P this way, she is basically a CO-President candidate coming into Nov. If they win, she will be the CO-president!

    Another possibility is for her to run as independent. I readthe following comments from a non-political figure skating forum:

    “Loyalty seems to be a big part of Hillary’s character, but if she is not the Democratice nominee, I hope she takes a page out of Joe Libermann’s book and runs as an independent. Considering how too many of the big wheels of the party have treated her, I think she owes them nothing. I will be voting for her by write-in if necessary. I do hope she does not accept the vice presidential position if it comes to that. That would be a waste of her abilities (unless she could have as much power as Dick Cheney seems to have had lol)

    I think if an analyst could get hold of Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Edwards, McGovern etc, they would discover the real reason they have endorsed Obama is that just can’t deal with the possibility that a woman could achieve what they couldn’t.”

  31. Nancy Pelosi increasingly sounds like the drag-queen director of “The Producers” stomping his foot calling for “order, we must have order” while rehearsing the big musical number “Springtime For Hitler”. The drag-queen director, like Nancy Pelosi, completely unaware of the irony of what he is saying
    ———————————————-
    Admin: have I told you lately that I love you? You are a hoot! Manachevitts that is good.

  32. Admin,

    Back Pfleger’s personal ties to Obama per NRO.

    Note that after Jeremiah Wright gave his National Press Club speech, Pfleger “counseled Obama Tuesday morning” — at least, that’s what Pfleger told a Chicago television station.

    Pfleger’s ties to Obama are pretty well known, but there are some additional details worth noting. Like the donations and state-funded grants:

    One of those long-time supporters was Rev. Michael Pfleger, the politically active leader of St. Sabina Church. He gave Obama’s campaign $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.

  33. And just to put a finer point on it, its not just the spring time for Hitler thats a problem, its the winter for Poland and France as well.

  34. kostner Says:
    May 29th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Sarah is McCain’s potential V.P.
    ———-
    You know what I fear? With the liberal dems true colors revealed as far as their misogynistic views and the ugly treatment of Clinton in this campaign, republicans may actually assume the mantle of electing the first woman president in this country. As I write this, my stomach is turning at the thought of giving away that huge honor to them. What fools these Dem elites are? I hope Pelosi gets defeated.

  35. kOstner, I will not soon forget Dodd’s statement about Hillary’s unelectability. How is the unelectable candidate have the highest votes of any candidate in history? How does the candidate with the highest unfavorables (according to Dodd) have the most votes?
    They are afraid of her, they dont want to answer to a woman!

  36. Obama’s Revisionist History
    By KARL ROVE
    May 29, 2008; Page A15
    online.wsj.com/article/SB121201747075327643.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
    &&&&&

    djia, good posting.

    Rove has to be the FOREMOST EXPERT on WEAK CANDIDATES who have to get by on Revisionsit History. He somehow managed to foist W. on us, twice!

  37. filbertsf Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    Sonia, please shove your polls up where the sun doesn’t shine.

    can you tell me where that is ??

  38. The treatment HRC has received — I think — will result iin a grave setback for women in politics. Many women with HRC’s skills and experience will take a step back and wonder if they, too, will be subjected to the full frontal assault as they aim for the Oval Office.

    This whole Dem Primary has been very bad for women in general. Misogyny is the 800lb gorilla in the room that everyone is afraid to point out.

    BTW, I got called a racist for calling BO the Boy Wonder. This dufus of a woman demanded that I stop using the term b/c, as an African-American, it offended her that I am calling BO a “boy.”

  39. djia, that means fox will go soft on BO. May be I am worrying too much but the whole media would be drinking his Kool aid.

  40. The wacky Pelosi’s latest dumb statement on Iran, per hot air:

    Pelosi: Some of the success of the surge is due to Iran’s “goodwill”

    “Well, the purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn’t happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn’t accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians.”

    Pelosi is exactly why I believe the first woman president won’t come from the democratic party. Voters want a tough-minded woman as their Commander-in-Chief, but those male wimpy ‘progressives’ keep on giving us Pelosi type, the weirdest face of women.

    Peolosi is truly an insult to all women.

  41. Here’s another to pass around!!!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/obamas_ties_to_acorn_more_subs.html

    May 29, 2008
    Obama’s Ties To ACORN More Substantial than first believed
    Rick Moran
    You’ve heard of Moveon.org and Code Pink – two radical leftist groups seeking to elect out and out socialists to public office and who are fierce opponents of the capitalist sysetm.

    But have you heard of ACORN?

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now is mostly a city-based group that you may know from their illegal voter registration efforts in several states during the 2004 election.

    But this group also is involved in schemes to impose drastic, left wing dogma on the rest of us through political action.

    Obama’s connection to this group has been shadowy – some work he did back in 1995 representing an effort by the group to get the courts to force Illinois to adopt the motor voter law. But Stanley Kurtz has uncovered even more ties that Obama has to this radical group:

    The extent of Obama’s ties to Acorn has not been recognized. We find some important details in an article in the journal Social Policy entitled, “Case Study: Chicago – The Barack Obama Campaign,” by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago Acorn leader and a member of Acorn’s National Association Board. The odd thing about this article is that Foulkes is forced to protect the technically “non-partisan” status of Acorn’s get-out-the-vote campaigns, even as he does everything in his power to give Acorn credit for helping its favorite son win the critical 2004 primary that secured Obama the Democratic nomination to the U.S. Senate.

    Before giving us a tour of Acorn’s pro-Obama but somehow “non-partisan” election activities, Foulks treats us to a brief history of Obama’s ties to Acorn. While most press accounts imply that Obama just happened to be at the sort of public-interest law firm that would take Acorn’s “motor voter” case, Foulkes claims that Acorn specifically sought out Obama’s representation in the motor voter case, remembering Obama from the days when he worked with Talbot. And while many reports speak of Obama’s post-law school role organizing “Project VOTE” in 1992, Foulkes makes it clear that this project was undertaken in direct partnership with Acorn. Foulkes then stresses Obama’s yearly service as a key figure in Acorn’s leadership-training seminars.

    At least a few news reports have briefly mentioned Obama’s role in training Acorn’s leaders, but none that I know of have said what Foulkes reports next: that Obama’s long service with Acorn led many members to serve as the volunteer shock troops of Obama’s early political campaigns – his initial 1996 State Senate campaign, and his failed bid for Congress in 2000 (Foulkes confuses the dates of these two campaigns.) With Obama having personally helped train a new cadre of Chicago Acorn leaders, by the time of Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign, Obama and Acorn were “old friends,” says Foulkes.

    Not surprisingly it turns out that Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger – two radical clergy closely associated with Obama – have extensive ties to ACORN . Their views fit nicely within the ACORN anti-capitalist agenda that they have been pushing for years.

    More evidence, if any were needed, that Obama’s past associations have defined him as a politician and that the more radicals that turn up in his background, the more we must question just what his beliefs truly are.

    Hat Tip: Ed Lasky

    Posted at 10:35 AM | Email | Permalink
    Comments

    There’s no reason to question Obama’s beliefs…we can see them clearly: He’s a Communist, and the Democrat Party is showing its true (red) color.

    Posted by: Matthew Quigley | May 29, 2008 11:26 AM

    ACORN = The voting fraud people. These are the fine upstanding folks who register dead people as Democrats. Nice to know ol Barry is closely associated to yet another shady corrupt group.

    Posted by: Bubba’s BBQ | May 29, 2008 11:37 AM

    Is this the same ACORN responsible for voter registration fraud in several states in 2006?

    Posted by: HeatherRadish | May 29, 2008 11:53 AM

    Soros funding McClellan’s book, Soros funding ACORN, is there a pattern emerging here? Do you think Comrade Obama is owned by Soros? I bet if you look into Comrade’s early book deals …

  42. “I will step in,” Pelosi told the paper. “Because we cannot take this fight to the convention…It must be over before then.”
    &&&&&

    Why is a convention floor fight so DISASTROUSLY TERRIBLE. You’d think that the way it is being presented, that Hillary and her supporters were planning to bring the Andromeda Strain to Denver.

    Grow up, you little babies.

    Obama only avoids the floor fight if a) we use the low bar for delegates, 2,025 instead of 2,209 (exclude two battleground states we’ll need in Nov.), and b) SDs are included, SDs whose votes don’t matter until the convention, who can switch (we just had the Virgin Island SD switch back to Hillary after he switched to Obama). And Obama himself in February said that: SDs should not overrule the will of the voters.

    So Obama can be unfairly declared the “Winner” if the DNC put the fix in for him, to use the low bar and to throw the SDs into the mix.

    But then guess what? We still have our case to plead, and we still show up in Denver.

    The DNC and Obama Gang can pretend there won’t be a showdown. Meanwhile, we’re building our arguments, and we’re working on PR, SD, and MT, and calling the SDs, and gettin’ the lawyers ready: “Subparagraph a, section 3c, blah blah yadda…”

  43. clintondem99 Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    djia, that means fox will go soft on BO. May be I am worrying too much but the whole media would be drinking his Kool aid.

    fox never was for hillary .

    why they were being nice after 16 yrs of trashing . thats one point OBAMA USED IN convincing superdelegates ,that republicans hate clintons and if hillary is the nominee they will unite in full force and come against clintons .

    why fox did not give good coverage to hillary before .

    only now

    because they realized -they were wrong ,she is a true leader -a uniter-a proud american unlike OBAMA —she says what she means and thats it

    so when reality hit them that oh shiiiittt what if obama is the president –they paniced and start being fair HILLARY

    SEE THIS COUNTRY RUNS ON BALANCE –NO TOO LIBERAL -NOT TOO CONSERVATIVE ===HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    so the whole country has already realized that -hill is the one for us —

  44. djia Says:
    May 29th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Here’s another to pass around!!!
    ————–

    If Obama is the nominee, they will have even bigger voter frauds than the repubs — may be that is why they don’t want us, regular folks.

  45. is not it that when pelosi took over –she promised so much for us ?/

    she was gonna get bush impeached

    she was gonna do this andthat

    all she did is —-get her teeth cleaned

  46. pm Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    If Obama is the nominee, they will have even bigger voter frauds than the repubs — may be that is why they don’t want us, regular folks.

    regular -no we are special -we still got our brains and common sense

  47. texans4hillary,

    wow, that’s great news!!

    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton’s Tears from Obama’s Church’s Pulpit
    May 29, 2008 3:34 PM

    Father Michael Pfleger, a fiery liberal social activist and a white reverend at an African-American church — St. Sabina’s Catholic Church on the South Side of Chicago — is a longtime friend and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, having known him since the presidential hopeful was a community activist. In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.

    Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Obama’s campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina’s, according to the Chicago Tribune.

    A new Youtube video making the rounds shows Pfleger speaking at Obama’s church, Trinity United Church of Christ, mocking Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, for having cried in New Hampshire, suggesting that she wept because she thought as a white person and wife of a former president she was entitled to the presidency.

    Watch HERE.

    In response to the sermon, Obama issued a statement saying: “As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.”

    This is what Obama was responding to: After being introduced by Obama’s church’s new pastor — Rev. Otis Moss — Rev. Pfleger talks about the importance of taking on “white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head.”

    “Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don’t believe it was put on,” Pfleger says from the pulpit. “I really believe that she just always thought, ‘This is mine! I’m Bill’s wife, I’m white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.’ And then out of nowhere came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama,’ and she said, ‘Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I’m white! I’m entitled! There’s a black man stealing my show!’

    Pfleger then mocks her crying, much to delight of the crowd, many of whom stand up and applaud.

    “She wasn’t the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!” Pfleger says to laughter.

    The tape, which just shows this one controversial part of Pfleger’s sermon, then cuts to Moss thanking Pfleger: “We thank God for the message, we thank God for the messenger, we thank God for Father Michael Pfleger,” Moss says.

    The New York Times recently described Father Pfleger as having “long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church.”

    – jpt

    UPDATE: Pfleger appears to have been scrubbed from the Obama campaign’s page that features the testimony of faith leaders, but you can see the cached version HERE.

  48. obama and apologize??

    that guy ran bus over his granny-pastor-clinton legacy-women rights-voterrights-

    he is so arrogant – i won,t be surprised if larry johnson at noquarter comes with a video of michelle with whitey rant and obama goes —–uh–uh00ummm— we were separated at the time —she must be mad at me for smoking pipe and for sleeping with larry —

    sorry did i say larry???i misspoke after campaigning in 57 states – i am tired — but i wanna be ur president ???

  49. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/us/politics/29dems.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    Florida and Michigan May See Delegates Halved

    By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
    Published: May 29, 2008

    (Only excerpts, go to the link for the whole deal):

    An analysis by lawyers for the Democratic Party says party rules call for Florida and Michigan to lose at least half their delegate strength at the party’s convention in August, an outcome that could close off Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s last opportunity to cut significantly into Senator Barack Obama’s lead in delegates.

    …..
    The committee is to convene Saturday at a Washington hotel. Demonstrations are expected there on Mrs. Clinton’s behalf; the Clinton campaign has said it is not organizing them but has not discouraged them.

    David Plouffe, Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, said the Obama camp had advised against rallies, despite calls on the Internet for counterprotests. Mr. Plouffe said the campaign did not want to contribute to a chaotic scene, which, he said, would not serve the interests of party unity.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    So Plouffe and Obama & Cabal don’t want Obamabots showing up to counterprotest? Why not? Think of all the great slogans they could chant:

    # Don’t count every vote
    # Install Obama as King
    # Florida? Who needs Florida?
    # 2.3 Million Voters Should STFU!!!

    With rousing slogans to choose from, I can’t see why they’re not being encouraged to show up and express their support against voters rights.

  50. Sonia, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You sound like a goddamn GOP ranting senselessly. I don’t like Pelosi at this point, but I hate ppl based on facts and what they’ve done, not from things I made up:

    1) Pelosi never said anything about impeachment. In fact, she angered the DailyKooks when she said “impeachment is off the table”

    2) the Dem Congress did get what they needed to get done within the first whatever hours it was.
    Minimum wage – check
    911 Commission recom – check
    Expansion of Stem Cell Funding – check
    Veterans care – check

    The did their part. If Bush vetoes them, he vetoes them. Dems only have a slim majority and it’s the obstructive GOP who have not allowed bills to come to the floor.

    3) She has nice teeth. If I had nice teeth, I’d get it cleaned, too — frequent and often

  51. kostner Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
    texans4hillary,

    wow, that’s great news!!

    OH MY GOD !!!

    WHY THE HELL he is after hillary for /??

    i am telling you -this is how they keep black voters from feeling guilty about turning thier back on hillary

    pastor wright –well no –racist wright did that too –before south carolina primary —he was preaching in black churches about –poor barack and hillary never been called -n-word

    well barack never been bit– word either

    why obama is using everyone to defend him ,..

    i won,t be surprised if even his plumber starts ranting about hillary too –they all scared and well paid by obama,s thug money

  52. filbertsf Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
    Sonia, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You sound like a goddamn GOP ranting senselessly. I don’t like Pelosi at this point, but I hate ppl based on facts and what they’ve done, not from things I made up:

    oh come on
    that was a joke about clean teeth —

    about impeachement -thats what i heard from someone at noquarterusa

    but thx for the facts.

  53. djia, here is some thing interesting: You may be onto something. Is he a community organizer or ACORN organizer? Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn)

    But back in Chicago, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is more important than Iraq or Washington. ACORN and its associated Midwest Academy, both founded in the 1970s, continue to train and mobilize activists throughout the country, often using them to manipulate public opinion through “direct action.” It’s sometimes a code for illegal activities.

    Prior to law school, Barack Obama worked as an organizer for their affiliates in New York and Chicago. He always has been an ACORN person — meeting and working with them to advance their causes. Through his membership on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago and his friendship with Teresa Heinz Kerry, Obama has helped ensure that they remain funded well.

    Since he graduated from law school, Obama’s work with ACORN and the Midwest Academy has ranged from training and fundraising, to legal representation and promoting their work.

    Today, Barack Obama’s conduct and “misgauging appearances” are the responsibility of his Democrat colleagues. In two years, it might be yours and mine.

    pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_488184.html

  54. Wow, now that Obama has responded to today’s latest Trinity church video, he’s guaranteed that the story will continue to get even more press.

    It’s amazing to me that BHO appointed not one, but TWO spiritual advisors to his campaign, each of whom has made sexist anti-Hillary comments and anti-white hate speech comments. What does that say about is judgment, and the company he keeps? One was bad enough, but TWO?

    No wonder Oprah quit the church. It says a lot that Obama refuses to do so, too.

  55. Sonia and Filbertsf,
    It is not helpful to be attacking one another on this site. Why don’t you two get a room. The sexual tension is too much to endure.

  56. berkeley

    my understanding is that there was 3 spiritual advisors…….. Wright,Meeks,Pfleger

    and all three are big buddies with Farrakhan

  57. Inside Obama’s Acorn
    By their fruits ye shall know them.

    By Stanley Kurtz
    What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. Acorn is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because Acorn works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. Acorn likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.
    This is a story we’ve largely missed. While Obama’s Acorn connection has not gone entirely unreported, its depth, extent, and significance have been poorly understood. Typically, media background pieces note that, on behalf of Acorn, Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal “motor-voter” bill. In fact, Obama’s Acorn connection is far more extensive. In the few stories where Obama’s role as an Acorn “leadership trainer” is noted, or his seats on the boards of foundations that may have supported Acorn are discussed, there is little follow-up. Even these more extensive reports miss many aspects of Obama’s ties to Acorn.

    An Anti-Capitalism Agenda
    To understand the nature and extent of Acorn’s radicalism, an excellent place to begin is Sol Stern’s 2003 City Journal article, “ACORN’s Nutty Regime for Cities.” (For a shorter but helpful piece, try Steven Malanga’s “Acorn Squash.”)

    Sol Stern explains that Acorn is the key modern successor of the radical 1960’s “New Left,” with a “1960’s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism” to match. Acorn, says Stern, grew out of “one of the New Left’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization.” In the 1960’s, NWRO launched a campaign of sit-ins and disruptions at welfare offices. The goal was to remove eligibility restrictions, and thus effectively flood welfare rolls with so many clients that the system would burst. The theory, explains Stern, was that an impossibly overburdened welfare system would force “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.” Instead of a socialist utopia, however, we got the culture of dependency and family breakdown that ate away at America’s inner cities — until welfare reform began to turn the tide.

    While Acorn holds to NWRO’s radical economic framework and its confrontational 1960’s-style tactics, the targets and strategy have changed. Acorn prefers to fly under the national radar, organizing locally in liberal urban areas — where, Stern observes, local legislators and reporters are often “slow to grasp how radical Acorn’s positions really are.” Acorn’s new goals are municipal “living wage” laws targeting “big-box” stores like Wal-Mart, rolling back welfare reform, and regulating banks — efforts styled as combating “predatory lending.” Unfortunately, instead of helping workers, Acorn’s living-wage campaigns drive businesses out of the very neighborhoods where jobs are needed most. Acorn’s opposition to welfare reform only threatens to worsen the self-reinforcing cycle of urban poverty and family breakdown. Perhaps most mischievously, says Stern, Acorn uses banking regulations to pressure financial institutions into massive “donations” that it uses to finance supposedly non-partisan voter turn-out drives.

    According to Stern, Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Fully aware of its living-wage campaign’s tendency to drive businesses out of cities, Acorn hopes to force companies that want to move to obtain “exit visas.” “How much longer before Acorn calls for exit visas for wealthy or middle-class individuals before they can leave a city?” asks Stern, adding, “This is the road to serfdom indeed.”

    In Your Face
    Acorn’s tactics are famously “in your face.” Just think of Code Pink’s well-known operations (threatening to occupy congressional offices, interrupting the testimony of General David Petraeus) and you’ll get the idea. Acorn protesters have disrupted Federal Reserve hearings, but mostly deploy their aggressive tactics locally. Chicago is home to one of its strongest chapters, and Acorn has burst into a closed city council meeting there. Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers’ dinner and sent four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor’s home, terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the line.

    **** Please keep reading this 4 page article*****

    H t t p : / / article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=

  58. from page two of the above article:

    Obama Meets Acorn
    What has Barack Obama got to do with all this? Plenty. Let’s begin with Obama’s pre-law school days as a community organizer in Chicago. Few people have a clear idea of just what a “community organizer” does. A Los Angeles Times piece on Obama’s early Chicago days opens with the touching story of his efforts to build a partnership with Chicago’s “Friends of the Parks,” so that parents in a blighted neighborhood could have an inviting spot for their kids to play. This is the image of Obama’s organizing we’re supposed to hold. It’s far from the whole story, however. As the L. A. Times puts it, “Obama’s task was to help far South Side residents press for improvement” in their communities. Part of Obama’s work, it would appear, was to organize demonstrations, much in the mold of radical groups like Acorn.

    Although the L. A. Times piece is generally positive, it does press Obama’s organizing tales on certain points. Some claim that Obama’s book, Dreams from My Father, exaggerates his accomplishments in spearheading an asbestos cleanup at a low-income housing project. Obama, these critics say, denies due credit to Hazel Johnson, an activist who claims she was the one who actually discovered the asbestos problem and led the efforts to resolve it. Read carefully, the L. A. Times story leans toward confirming this complaint against Obama, yet the story’s emphasis is to affirm Obama’s important role in the battle. Speaking up in defense of Obama on the asbestos issue is Madeleine Talbot, who at the time was a leader at Chicago Acorn. Talbot, we learn, was so impressed by Obama’s organizing skills that she invited him to help train her own staff.

    And what exactly was Talbot’s work with Acorn? Talbot turns out to have been a key leader of that attempt by Acorn to storm the Chicago City Council (during a living-wage debate). While Sol Stern mentions this story in passing, the details are worth a look: On July 31, 1997, six people were arrested as 200 Acorn protesters tried to storm the Chicago City Council session. According to the Chicago Daily Herald, Acorn demonstrators pushed over the metal detector and table used to screen visitors, backed police against the doors to the council chamber, and blocked late-arriving aldermen and city staff from entering the session.

    Reading the Herald article, you might think Acorn’s demonstrators had simply lost patience after being denied entry to the gallery at a packed meeting. Yet the full story points in a different direction. This was not an overreaction by frustrated followers who couldn’t get into a meeting (there were plenty of protestors already in the gallery), but almost certainly a deliberate bit of what radicals call “direct action,” orchestrated by Acorn’s Madeleine Talbot. As Talbot was led away handcuffed, charged with mob action and disorderly conduct, she explicitly justified her actions in storming the meeting. This was the woman who first drew Obama into his alliance with Acorn, and whose staff Obama helped train.

  59. FILBERT,

    YES IS A TROLL HERE, AND NOT A REAL GOOD ONE…
    ALSO THIS PERSON IS NOT A WOMAN….
    AND THIS PERSON HAS POSTED OUR SHIT ON OBAMA SITES…

    we have some nice people here, that cant imagine it, but whatever…
    know that this one has been busted elsewhere.
    speaks perfect english, and has a nasty little troll temper…

    but all that aside, why dont you feed it false information, and have some fun with it…
    f*ck them up, thats how it works…
    also i believe someone has sent this persons addy to be checked out…

  60. Just watched the Carville interview. I think the fact he blames the Waffles campaign for hyping the RFK remark and says it backfired tells me Hillary and her campaign are going to make Waffles pay for this. Hillary stopped criticizing Waffles weeks ago because she’s a team player, and then his campaign pulls this shit.

    And the new Pfleger video just reinforces how sleazy it was for Waffles and the media to accuse the Clintons of playing the race card when they were the ones who were guilty.

  61. Paula: Chicago-style politics, blame your opponent first, for what you are doing. Waffles campaign definitely played the race card first. Remember, “Race Man?”

    Those videos are horrendous, and this guy is still getting votes? It is crazy.

  62. birdal,

    it’s not crazy, it’s normal. When George W. Bush still got votes from those wacky right wingers, I can assure Obama will get at least 30 to 35% of primary voters if he’s caught on calling on killing ‘whitey’.

    The ultra leftists are as bad as or even worse than the wingnuts. It’s a scary to think Obama/Pelosi/Reid will control the country for a 4 years. Thats’ why Obama needs to be defeated at any cost.

    I don’t care about McCain, but will be forced to pull the lever for him. Obama scares me to death.

  63. kostner, Pelosi and Reid are not ultraleft. Reid could be considered a blue dog Dem b/c of his stance on abortion and gun. As for Pelosi, she’s a liberal. Not far left. I consider Code Pink (who are not fond of Pelosi), Ralph Nader, and Cindy Shaheen (sp) to be far-left.

    Liberal doesn’t equal far left.

    I know I’m acting like a token Democrat defending Pelosi. God knows she hasn’t been a friend as of late. It’s hard to change suits when I’ve been a liberal Dem pretty much all my adult life.

    Am I the only liberal Dem here? I guess it’s good that someone like Kostner and myself are supporting Hillary. It tells you she appeals to variety of people.

    skmf, thanks. for fear that I’ll be accused of homosexual desire for Sonia, I think I’ve said my peace. I was acting a bit sophomoric myself in those few exchanges. I should have just ignored the him.

  64. I don’t care what Carville says: the democrats will not win with Bambi. I will spend the next 5 months campaigning for John McCain and so will millions of Hillary supporters. There is nothing the Democrats can say that will change my mind, they can demonize McCain and I will not change me mind. When I hear them demonizing him, I will know that this them trying to sway my opinion for that empty shirt McCain. I will go as far as say if they don’t seat Fl and MI fully I will never vote Democrat for the rest of my life and will avidly search out people to join in my cause. I can’t be a party to a party of racist, race baiting, constiution breaking democrats, especially since that is what they have been saying for 8 years about the republicans!!

  65. Great article, Admin! 🙂

    And has anyone seen this?? (no link because I get caught up in filter, abc news)

    Clinton Issues Post-Primary Schedule (Yes, Post-Primary Schedule)
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    May 29, 2008 2:04 PM

    ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: The press traveling with Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign received an email Thursday afternoon informing reporters they could sign up for travel through June 6 on the campaign website.

    Given the speculation surrounding plausible outcomes from this Saturday’s DNC Meeting and the final Democratic primaries on June 3, many confused looks passed between reporters on the back of the press bus.

    When asked for comment, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson looked past Tuesday’s primaries to the general election.

    “There are a lot of places for us to go between June 4 and November,” Carson said.

  66. linfar Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    thx linfar

    i have read ur posts on and off

    i like it

    something to learn .

  67. I’ll repeat that last line:

    “There are a lot of places for us to go between June 4 and November,” Carson said.’

    wooooooooooohooooooooooooooo!

  68. Jack Tapper of ABC News reports:

    Father Pfleger writes to say, “I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”

    well
    it should be obama apologizing too

  69. Seems Father Pfleger has not learned from the last stir up he caused. Here is the contact information for the public relations department of the Chicago Archdiocese.

    Department of Communications and Public Relations

    Director
    Colleen H. Dolan
    Phone: 312-751-8289
    E-MAIL: cdolan@archchicago.org

    Administrative Assistant
    Javier Garcia
    Phone: 312-751-8370

    Department fax number
    312/751-5306

  70. latest Michigan polls (thanks Kostner)

    SurveyUSA
    McCain 41
    Obama 37

    ERIC/MIA
    McCain 44
    Obama 40

    waffles, who should be referred to from now on as the Affirmative Action candidate, was right when he said there was no such thing as blue states and red states. At the rate he’s going, they will all be RED states in the fall.

  71. If the press was serious about doing its job, it would be asking Obama why he’s still a member of Trinity church. Why do Obama and his wife give thousands of dollars every year to Trinity? Why do they support a church whose leaders continue to make racially-charged and divisive statements? Why did Obama name Reverend Wright and Father Pfleger as spiritual advisors to his campaign? Does Obama agree with his supporter, Oprah Winfrey, who decided to quit the church after all the recent controversy?

  72. sorry typo
    empty shirt= Obama
    How many millions of women and men who do not hang out on the blogs and listen to every word that comes out of the commentators mouths have decided to vote for McCain if Hillary is cheated out of the nomination? I don’t know, but I found two in my little job at a very small hospital. I just ran across them in the operating room doing my job. This will be a big lose for the democrats if they keep acting like republicans!

  73. Email from Hillary to supporters, sent out earlier today. If you can donate, please do! If you’re maxed out or strapped for cash, ask 5 friends or family members if they can donate $20.44 to Hillary. 😀

    ————–
    Dear Democrats,

    Have you seen the general election polls lately? They consistently show that we’ll beat John McCain in November. In a national head-to-head match and in the critical swing states, the numbers show I’m the best candidate to take back the White House for Democrats.

    That is why it’s critical that we stay in this race and keep fighting for every last vote. We can win the nomination if we extend our popular vote lead, and that means putting everything we have into the final races. With just a few days before the voters in Puerto Rico head to the polls, our campaign is working hard — and your support is making the difference.

    Every vote matters. I need you to help today and join our matching program. By matching the donation of someone who hasn’t made a gift before, you’re doubling the impact of your contribution, making your $50 gift worth $100 or your $100 gift worth $200.

    Contribute today to have twice the impact on the final primary races.

    In the past 24 hours, thousands of you have given generously to our campaign, and I’m so delighted to see your incredible commitment.

    With your help, we’re going to keep driving forward to victory, and there’s no better time to help than right now. By making a matching contribution, you’ll double your impact.

    Thank you for putting your heart and spirit into this campaign. I couldn’t do it without you.

    Sincerely,
    Hillary

  74. Yep, no such thing as red states and blue states, I agree they will all be red and I will help!!

  75. I will venture to say if Pelosi puts her big foot in it and stops it from going to the floor of the convention, they will be a wave of unrest that they have never seen before!! We women will stampede!!

  76. The Moment of Truth

    Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
    Site:www.theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/
    About: See Authors Posts (6) on May 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Current Affairs, DNC, Democracy, Democratic National Convention, Democrats, Hillary Clinton

    TO HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON:

    I have written to you before and I post regularly on my journal: The Heraclitan Fire and at No Quarter

    It seems to me that the fix is in, I think that Mr. Obama has already been chosen by the Democratic party ‘elders’ as their nominee. You know that this will be a disaster for the Democrats in November and will likely lead to John McCain’s election.

    I know you both are lifelong Democrats and I know your first instinct is to help the Democrats , no matter how badly you have been abused. I am writing to you to ask you to consider another option.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/the-moment-of-truth/

  77. I saw the statements from Pfleger and Obama today, but does anyone know if Obama is going to renounce Pfleger’s endorsement? Is he going to “fire” him from the campaign, as a spiritual advisor? It sure seems that way, since they scrubbed all references to him from their website, but have they announced anything? Big Media, Politico, Washington Post, New York Times… are you listening?

  78. confloyd, I just read your post about maybe campaigning with the McCain campaign if Bambi gets the nom. Texas will most likely go to McCain. I think McCain has a good chance of capturing CA, although Bay Area will definitely go Obama. Orange County will def go to McCain. As for LA, it depends on the Hispanic voters.

    Obama, his surrogates and the media continue to p*ss me off like mad and I, too, have threatened to volunteer for McCain. For a liberal, Air America-loving Dem like myself, it’s a big change. But there are millions of people like you and me. We’re just angry and fed up with Obama and the one-sided press coverage.

  79. people are very multi-cultural in ca

    but obama will never win .
    reasons
    1.women
    2.seniors
    3.catholics
    4.latinos –only 30% will vote for obama
    5, asians –very loyal to clintons
    obama will get votes from young ,blacks,san jose and san francisco area only

  80. Chicago, IL – Today, United States Congressman Alan B. Mollohan endorsed Barack Obama.

    Mollohan is the 323.5th superdelegate to endorse Obama. Obama is 43 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president.

    Congressman Mollohan said, “I believe Senator Obama will bring America a new era of trust, principled leadership and positive results. He has the intelligence, capacity and values that assure me he will confront the real issues that Americans face every day – health care, pension reform, energy prices, the struggling economy, and, of course, the issue of Iraq. “
    Congressman Mollohan has represented the First District of West Virginia in the United States House of Representatives since 1983.

  81. If I did not know any better I would swear obama’s campaign is being run by Opus Dei.

    Intolerance towards other religions.
    The dishonesty.
    The danger inherent in the undemocratic structure of blindly following orders.
    The danger inherent in the psychological control they have of their members due to the “weekly chat” where they have to tell the innermost details of their souls to their spiritual leaders.
    The aggressive and manipulative way in which they try to catch new members.
    The evil character of the founder.
    The fact that they do not reveal their true goals and keep a lot of material secret from the public.
    The smug thinking of belonging to an elite.

  82. Congressman Alan B. Mollohan from West Virginia endorsed BO today. WV overwhelmingly went to Hillary.

    Here is his contact information

    CongressmanMollohan@mail.house.gov.

    WASHINGTON
    Phone: (202) 225-4172
    Fax: (202) 225-7564
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan
    2302 Rayburn House Building
    Washington, DC 20515
    CLARKSBURG
    Phone: (304) 623-4422
    Fax: (304) 623-0571
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan
    Room 209, Post Office Building
    PO Box 1400
    Clarksburg, WV 26302-1400
    MORGANTOWN
    Phone: (304) 292-3019
    Fax: (304) 292-3027
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan
    Room 232, Federal Building
    PO Box 720
    Morgantown, WV 26507-0720
    PARKERSBURG
    Phone: (304) 428-0493
    Fax: (304) 428-5980
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan
    Room 2040, Federal Building
    425 Juliana Street
    Parkersburg, WV 26101
    WHEELING
    Phone: (304) 232-5390
    Fax: (304) 232-5722
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan
    Federal Building
    Chapline Street
    Wheeling, WV 26003

  83. shenanigans: what a bunch of hooey, and from a state, where Hillary won by 41%. Disgusting.

  84. filbertsf,

    No worry, TX is sure to go for McCain. Just read a latest poll out of TX(no surprise that McCain has double digits lead there), the internals are very intriguing. Obama only garners 48% latino voters, which does not bode well for his chance in NV/NM etc. Clinton garners 57%.

    On a light note, the crazy Olbermann has a tax issue.

    Deadbeat Olbermann Fails to Pay New York Taxes, State Issues Warrant
    New York State has issued a tax warrant against Keith Olbermann for failure to pay taxes on his humbly named personal corporation, Olbermann Broadcasting Empire, Inc. Olbermann is listed in legal records as the President of Olbermann Broadcasting Empire, Inc.

    A call to the Albany County Clerk’s Office in upstate New York confirmed that the warrant is still outstanding and that Olbermann has still failed to pay his back taxes. State records show that Olbermann’s company failed to pay $2,269.50 in state taxes. A judgement was entered against Olbermann last summer (Docket Date: 8/21/2007), just weeks before Olbermann closed on a a luxurious $4.2 mm condo at Trump Palace, at 200 East 69th Street.

    Keith Olbermann joins fellow comedian Al Franken on the list of prominent liberals who love to raise YOUR taxes but do everything in the power to avoid paying their own. Franken, running for the Democratic nomination for Senate in Minnesota was nailed two months ago for failing to pay his taxes. That report let to further investigations which turned up numerous examples of Franken skipping out on tax bills across 19 states for an amount totaling over $70,000. Franken was also fined $25,000 for failure to pay into state Workers Compensation fund. Minnesota Democrats Exposed has all the goods on Franken here.

  85. shenanigans Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
    Congressman Alan B. Mollohan from West Virginia endorsed BO today. WV overwhelmingly went to Hillary.

    what the hell

    did not obama and his robots say —sd,s should go according to thier location,s winner–

    oh in OBAMALOND –obama can do whatever he wants —

    well guys get readyyfor hitler,s communism —

  86. He has got to be paying these folk off, i can’t imagine what they are thinking. they are going to lose their seats as well. Something is so fishy about his, are they looking at the same polls as we are? WTF is going on with these people? Its got to be Daley and the Chicago machine calling in favors, something is up!

  87. birdgal Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
    shenanigans: what a bunch of hooey, and from a state, where Hillary won by 41%. Disgusting
    hypocrite
    double standard
    fooling the voters
    FIX IS IN –OBAMA IS DONATING TO THEM A LOT (U KNOW HIS THUG MONEY FROM CHICAGO DEALS)

  88. Yep, I think there’s a lot of money behind donated to these campaigns. I’m disgusted and I hope the people in his district take note.

  89. How can the DNC break what the constitution says? According to an article I read it is unconstitutional not to count the votes and that includes the primary! How are they going to get around this?

  90. shenanigans

    Hillary won the 1st Congressional district in WV with about 65% of the vote. He is 65 and may not give a hoot what the voters in his district say since he is probably close to retiring . He did not care what the ethics committee had to say about him and his shady dealings either.Hhe is a crook from way back when congress started investigating him, he kept making corrections to his financial disclosure reports. Much like the way Obama only finds money from rezko when reporters do.

  91. i believe ,its PELOSI- or — AL-GORE-JIMMY CARTER OR SOME PARTY ELDERS who are pulling these shote to discourage us

    also i think

    only 80 delegates left

    obama needs 45 according to his fuzzy math

    so what he is doing is pulling out sd,s from behind the curtain one by one –so hill supporters don,t gettoo mad . u know he is trying to make it normal.

    then he knows he will only have 25-30 of the left delegates because of puerto rico (WHERE HILL WILL WIN), so he wants to add 10 -15 more superdelegates to his math ,so that by june3rd night -his number will show 2025 and he can declare victory by saying he got it

    see, i think -he is very clever -he knows if he pulls 15 superdelegates after june3rd to get 2025 —hill fans will do riot

    so

    on june 3rd election day –he will act like he got 25 more delegates and got 2025 number –so he is the nominee

    he is sure dirty –see how he paid all ex-clinton supporters to his side ,the reason to do that was to get inside secrets of clintons or to find out how clintons function

    OH MAN i am hating obama more and more everyday

    he is no mr new politice

    he is the father of all the worst and dirty ones

  92. confloyd, I think Pelosi has a Napoleon complex (or whatever the equivalent is for women). She’s trying to prove she’s the baddest woman on the block, when we all know Hillary could clean her clock.

    Exactly HOW could she prevent this from being decided at the convention? She can’t force Super Delegates to endorse, and she sure as heck can’t time travel ahead to August 25, 2008 to actually hold the delegate vote, which is when this whole thing will be officially determined anyway. As we all know, Super Delegates are free to change their mind at any time and for any reason up until the vote occurs.

    The Democratic party leadership was stupid enough to delay their convention until late August. This is NOT Hillary’s problem and it’s not her responsibility to bail them out by just quitting when she has every right to fight on.

    The Democratic party was stupid enough to SELECTIVELY DISENFRANCHISE millions of Michigan and Florida voters based on ARBITRARY and BIASED rulings. This was NOT the fault of Hillary and again, she has NO RESPONSIBILITY to the Democratic Party leadership to go along with the disenfranchisement of millions of legally cast votes.

  93. Levon
    Pelosi is the highest elected woman in our country’s history and her only goal in life right now is to keep that distinction for herself. Typical politician Me… Me… Me…

  94. Levon Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    The Democratic party was stupid enough to SELECTIVELY DISENFRANCHISE millions of Michigan and Florida voters based on ARBITRARY and BIASED rulings. This was NOT the fault of Hillary and again, she has NO RESPONSIBILITY to the Democratic Party leadership to go along with the disenfranchisement of millions of legally cast votes.

    i heard ==it was donna brazile and one more hill supporter who pushed for this right away because they knew it will be hard for obama to win —

    i don,t have link but just from talking to someone at noquarter
    but i totally believe it knowing donna

  95. i heard ==it was donna brazile and one more hill supporter who pushed for this right away because they knew it will be hard for obama to win —

    SORRY –NOT HILL BUT OBAMA SUPPORTER

  96. May 29, 2008
    Clinton has double-digit lead in Puerto Rico
    Posted: 04:00 PM ET

    (CNN) — Hillary Clinton holds a double-digit lead in Puerto Rico, a new poll out Thursday suggests.

    According to the new survey conducted for the newspaper El Vocero and Univision, the New York senator is leading Barack Obama there 51 percent to 38 percent among all adults in the commonwealth’s primary this Sunday. The poll also show 52 percent of Puerto Ricans view Clinton favorably while 42 percent have a positive view of Obama.

    The weekend primary will likely be the New York senator’s last chance to boost her popular vote total, since Obama is widely viewed to have an advantage the final two primaries that vote Tuesday — South Dakota and Montana.

    The survey was conducted May 8-20. Given the length of the survey time, it is possible it may not reflect the current views of Puerto Ricans since both candidates have visited the island since the polling began, and other recent developments on the campaign trail may have swayed voter’s minds there.

    Both Obama and Clinton paid visits to the island over the weekend, and Clinton is planning a return trip at the end of the week. Former President Bill Clinton and daughter Chelsea have also spent the majority of the week campaigning throughout the island, hoping to drum up a high turnout.

    “You will never have a chance to vote for some one who cares more who has done more and who will do more as president,” Bill Clinton told potential voters in San Juan Wednesday. “So I ask you all show up and be there for her. Talk to your families talk to your friends. Send a message back to the mainland on Sunday that Puerto Rico deserves to be considered and its potential is unlimited if only you had a genuine partner in the White House.”

    Fifty-five delegates are up for grabs, more than were awarded in each of the three most recent voting states — Oregon, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

  97. what kietho will say today ??

    ha ha ha

    he will come up with some new spin to cover up for obama,s new pastor ,

    lets send him stool -softeners ,he might have hard time today —

    what about mathews whose legs tingle when he listens to obama –i bet u he is wearing a diaper today

  98. I will never understand these SD’s. They are suppose to do what is best for the party and still endorse Obama.
    they need to look at these electoral maps which show Hillary beating McCain in a blowout and Obama and McCain in a virtual tie. They also need to keep in mind the siftboarters out there ready to pounce on Obama. For the good of the party the decision is clear, Hillary is 44!

    Hillary/McCain map

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May29.html

    Obama/McCain map

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May29.html

  99. I’m surprised that no one seems to be making the argument that if ANY year ever cried out for requiring a “real” convention, where delegates show up and discuss the merits of the candidates, before casting their votes, it’s THIS year. In years where the race isn’t close, conventions turn into coronations, but that should NOT be the case this year. We’re in the middle of the closest Democratic primary in history. Instead of strong-arming all the super delegates to hurry up and endorse, the party elders should be preaching deliberate, rational analysis, without any rush to judgment.

  100. rjk1957 Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    still on meds, should have been swiftboaters

    who??

  101. rjk1957 Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    i have thought of samething .

    but i think wht obama is tellng them is —look i was behind hillary but i won the primaries —so don,t look at the polls -i can di it

    BUT

    here is what sd,s not looking at

    he won delegates not popular vote

    he won only 2 groups of voters (young-aa)

    he won cacus states -and no cacuses in nov –so all seniors,busy,women with kids kinda voters will come out to vote too —and no one goes for him anyway

    he won the red states mostly (where he was giving radio ads saying ____become dem for a day –basically reps who did not like hill went to vote just to take hill out)

    he failed to win latinos-asians-women-seniors-jewish-catholics-blue collar votes-rural voters

    SO i hope sd,s wake up and think with thier right mind and choose hillary

  102. I am getting ready to go to the Texas convention next weekend. I got an email from Hillary about training. I opened it too late to be on the conference call so if any body else got it, let me know you can get me on djia’s private site! I have been working non-stop since the grandbaby was born and now to get a day off to go to convention, I am getting real tired. I can’t imagine how Hillary feels!

  103. I bet Pelosi and her surrogates feel that Scott McClelland’s new book will help the democrats win in november. They better think again, why would we want to put in another crook in. I want to get them out of Washington. I don’t think the Rat Boat campaign will be the winning ticket come November!

  104. Apparently, Fox is the only network covering Pfleger’s horribly offensive comments. Why am I not surprised? Was this story even on the evening news? Can you imagine if someone associated with Hillary said something that incendiary?

  105. This Priest needs to be defrocked by the Catholic Church! I dare he say racist things on a pulpit, he know better than that. I am a Catholic and that is a mortal sin!

  106. from TM:

    Based on the caucus results in the above states, Barack Obama gained 295 pledged delegates to Hillary Clinton’s 158, a net advantage of 137 pledged delegates. Reallocating delegates based on the primary results or an interpolation based on the WA-TX-NE-ID data, Barack Obama would have won 233 to Hillary Clinton’s 219, a net advantage of 14.

    The use of low-turnout caucuses rather than higher-participation primaries is directly responsible for a net margin of 123 pledged delegates in Barack Obama’s favor.

    Hello superdelegates! Any of you paying attention to all the evidence?

    As I wrote yesterday, and you can see from the headlines on this site, top name Clinton supporters are getting the feeling we’re not going to field our strongest candidate. Bill Clinton chimed in on this as well:

    Bill Clinton also said winning the popular vote “will prove she’s the popular choice of the Democrats,” despite ending with less delegates than Obama, the former president said in an impromptu press conference on the streets of Old San Juan. “And the party will have to decide whether they believe the caucuses — where you get about one delegate for 2000 votes — are more important than the primaries where you get one for 12,000,” he said. “And that this really astonishing race, where both have run amazing campaigns, they’re gonna have to decide how to resolve this.

  107. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
    Hey what did Obama say about the church siutation today?

    he said –uhhhhh–umm-um— we will give press conference tomorrow (because i need people to tell me what to say)

  108. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
    from TM:

    wow good math

    pls post it everywhere

    cnn,fox,msnbc,nytimes,huff,ap,and everywhere

  109. does anyone have list of newspapers of puerto-rice and other 2 atates

    we should keep an eye on the news there and blog there

  110. hillfans, up until this year i thought i was left. compared to obama and his bots i am right of center.

  111. confloyd, I’m not sure where the Democrats confidence in winning back the White House comes from. In poll after poll we see the same thing: Hillary is trending UPWARD against McCain, and Affirmative Action candidate is trending DOWNWARD against McCain. We’ve also seen that in poll after poll, McCain fares MUCH BETTER than a generic Republican candidate. He’s got appeal with independents and that’s the main reason why he’s their nominee.

    The Democratic party thinks the atmosphere is so poisonous for Republicans this year that ANY Democratic candidate will have a leg up in the race. Well, they didn’t count on the Affirmative Action candidate bringing all of his shortcomings to the party now did they?

    Now they are panicked because Hillary is showing them what a true winning candidate should stand for and act like. They will no doubt, if the Affirmative Action candidate wins the nomination, expect Hillary to BAIL THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OUT by strongly endorsing the Affirmative Action candidate. After all, she’s the winner in the party (along with Bill), and who better to help the pathetic Affirmative Action candidate than the only true winners the Democratic party have, the Clintons?

    The Democratic party sickens me with their screw-the-Clintons-what-have-they-done-for-us-lately attitude. Politics is all about the next election, there is no loyalty among politicians. If our elected officials show no loyalty to the family who MADE an entire generation of prominent Democratic careers, then how the hell can they expect us to show loyalty to the party? I’m not a Democrat, I’m a Clinton-crat, and will bail on the party as quickly as they have bailed on the Clintons.

  112. Campbell Brown’s show is pitiful, yall. OMG they are shrouding Hillary big time. IF ever there was somethin’ we could learn from a stinkin repug it was yesterday’s Scot McClellan quote about the (Liberal, as if) media didn’t do its job. Gees has anything changed? We should call supers tomorrow as well as voters in SD and Montana. CNN saying that the final line will be crossed after the meeting on the 31st. Superdelegates do not vote by calling a press conference; they have to show up at a convention.

  113. concerning the proper referent for Madam Speaker Pelousi, I would vote for “queen bee.” Those of you who remember the women’s movement of the 1970’s and following know of what I speak.

  114. Levon, you are right, I am with you on that Clintoncrat! I am voting for the candidate from now on and it won’t be a democrat. How can they not count Fl and MI after 2000? I mean the democrats there were fighting for us by having a paper trail. I guess when you play Chicago politics you don’t need a paper trail! I don’t know what to think of the DNC anymore. How and who installed Dean anyhow?

  115. That’s right the media did not do its job! so what exactly are we going to do when the media tries to install BO on Sunday or Wednesday? Now is the time we should be deciding what we are going to do! Like I said we need a stampede!

  116. I have a feeling that there is a block of superdelegates waiting until a ruling comes down about FL and MI this weekend before endorsing Hillary. With FL and MI counted even at half a vote each throwing in the 40 delegates Hillary should win in PR along with the SD’s waiting in the wings and Obama’s lead could be just about gone come Monday morning. As long as the SD’s do their homework and vote with their heads free and clear of Obama’s ass.

  117. If the DNC does not rule correctly and seat Fl and Mi fully we have no choice WE MUST TAKE BACK OUR PARTY!

  118. I just heard that Billo lost his cool, he was mad as hell at msm letting BO get by with murder and chewing up Hillary! He said they would soon regret that move. He was so mad he had to go get some water!! It’s about time somebody on TV got mad at the terrible reporting!

  119. Mollohan is running unopposed in WV. If the RNC were smart they would put someone’s name on the ballot in November opposing him.

  120. confloyd Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    I just heard that Billo lost his cool
    WHO IS BILLO??

  121. rjk1957 Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    Mollohan is running unopposed in WV. If the RNC were

    no rnc has a very bad rep right now

    but anyone(even any big hill supporter) with right head and some money should run independent with democratic values

  122. Paula, Yes, but crowley was laughing when she began the reporting on this. It was all okay according to them because BO apologized quickly and so did the Priest. Why does anybody care about an apology? It’s what was done that was important

  123. And what the priest said obviously wasn’t a “gaffe,” it’s clearly what he believes.

    BTW, Hillary also quickly clarified her RKF remarks and the MSM completely ignored her response.

  124. birdgal, The priest did, in a statement. But Obama didn’t. He just made some lame-ass statement saying Pfleger’s comments don’t represent the unity message he’s trying to convey blah blah blah.

  125. rjk,

    according to the obamabots, there are suppose to be 40 supers of hills, that are suppose to screw hillary and come out after the meeting, and then obama is going to claim victory…

    so something with 40 is going to happen. they better think what they do ,otherwise its time to take to the streets, in that million voter march on wash…

  126. Just saw this from Wolfson on TM. Great response:

    Wolfson says: “Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics. We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn’t specifically reject Father’s Pflegler’s dispicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so.”

  127. When someone says that this nomination process must be wrapped up in June, this is code for Obama must be our nominee. So anyone who uses this phrase, we know upfront they want Obama (not neutral) and are against playing by the rules. The rules of the Party spell out the nomination process and clearly state that the delegates will decide the nominee in Denver. Since neither will go in with enough pledged delegates (Supers don’t count since they can change their minds every day if they so choose until the moment they must raise their hands at the convention) to claim the nomination before Denver, it will not end in June unless one of the candidates drops out.

    Pelosi can not decide the nominee in advance, the DNC can not decide the nominee in advance, and the delegates including the Supers can not decide the nominee in advance. If Pelosi at the convention tries to ram rod Obama’s nomination through, there will be such a ruckus in front of the entire national television viewing audience (gavel to gavel none-the-less) that it will certainly rank as the best reality show of the season. To add to the fun, there will be live coverage of AA and Obama Brown shirt thugs rioting and hopefully protests from women groups outside the convention hall. Hello Party civil war. Good-bye White House. Happy Days Are Here Again!

  128. Obama’s Revisionist History
    By KARL ROVE
    May 29, 2008; Page A15

    This week’s minor controversy about Barack Obama’s claim that an uncle liberated Auschwitz was quickly put to rest by his campaign. They conceded that it was a great uncle whose unit liberated Buchenwald, 500 miles away.

    But other, much more troubling, episodes have provided a revealing glimpse into a candidate who instinctively resorts to parsing, evasions and misdirection. The saga over Rev. Jeremiah Wright is Exhibit A. In just 62 days, Americans were treated to eight different explanations.

    First, on Feb. 25, Mr. Obama downplayed Rev. Wright’s divisiveness, saying he was “like an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don’t agree with.” A week later, Mr. Obama insisted, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial,” suggesting that Rev. Wright was criticized because “he was one of the leaders in calling for divestment from South Africa and some other issues like that.”

    The issue exploded on March 13, when ABC showed excerpts from Rev. Wright’s sermons. Mr. Obama’s spokesman said the senator “deeply disagrees” with Rev. Wright’s statements, but “now that he is retired, that doesn’t detract from Sen. Obama’s affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done.”

    The next day, Mr. Obama offered a fourth defense: “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.” Mr. Obama also told the Chicago Tribune, “In fairness to him, this was sort of a greatest hits. They basically culled five or six sermons out of 30 years of preaching.”

    Then, four days later, in Philadelphia, Mr. Obama finally repudiated Rev. Wright’s comments, saying they “denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation.” But Mr. Obama went on to say, “I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother. . . .”

    Ten days later, Mr. Obama said if Rev. Wright had not retired as Trinity’s pastor, and “had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended . . . then I wouldn’t have felt comfortable staying there at the church.” (Never mind that Rev. Wright had made no such acknowledgment.)

    On April 28, at the National Press Club, Rev. Wright re-emerged – not to apologize but to repeat some of his most offensive lines. This provoked an eighth defense: “[W]hatever relationship I had with Rev. Wright has changed, as a consequence of this. I don’t think that he showed much concern for me. More importantly, I don’t think he showed much concern for what we are trying to do in this campaign . . . .” Self-interest is a powerful, but not noble, sentiment in politics.

    The Rev. Wright affair is just one instance where the Illinois senator has said something wrong or offensive, and then offered shifting explanations for his views. Consider flag pins.

    Mr. Obama told an Iowa radio station last October he didn’t wear an American flag lapel pin because, after 9/11, it had “became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues . . . .” His campaign issued a statement that “Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol.” To highlight his own moral superiority, he denigrated the patriotism of those who wore a flag.

    Yet by April, campaigning in culturally conservative Pennsylvania, Mr. Obama was blaming others for the controversy he’d created, claiming, “I have never said that I don’t wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins. This is the kind of manufactured issue that our politics has become obsessed with and, once again, distracts us . . . .” A month later Mr. Obama was once again wearing a pin, saying “Sometimes I wear it, sometimes I don’t.”

    The Obama revision tour has been seen elsewhere. Last July, Mr. Obama pledged to meet personally and without precondition, during his first year, the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. Criticized afterwards, he made his pledge more explicitly, naming Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Venezuela strongman Hugo Chávez as leaders he would grace with first-year visits.

    By October, Mr. Obama was backpedaling, talking about needing “some progress or some indication of good faith,” and by April, “sufficient preparation.” It got so bad his foreign policy advisers were (falsely) denying he’d ever said he’d meet with Mr. Ahmadinejad – even as he still defended his original pledge to have meetings without precondition.

    The list goes on. Mr. Obama’s problem is a campaign that’s personality-driven rather than idea-driven. Thus incidents calling into question his persona and character can have especially devastating consequences.

    Stripped of his mystique as a different kind of office seeker, he could become just another liberal politician – only one who parses, evades, dissembles and condescends. That narrative is beginning to take hold. If those impressions harden into firm judgments, Mr. Obama will have a very difficult time in November.

  129. Janet on TM made a good point. She said the Pfleger video convinces her Larry Johnson is right and the “whitey” tape of MO does exist.

  130. as i mentioned eaelier –its all cooked by obama with al-gore and pelosi

    they are quietly putting superdelegates in obama,s pocket —so on june 3rd he will have 2025 so they can declare thier nominee from 48 states

    oh i am sorry obama will be president of 57 states (of which nation though –)

  131. Does anyone know the telephone number of the arch diocese of that Priest Plager? I am Catholic and I am disgusted at the hate spewing from a Priest on a Pulpit no less. He know good and well we as Catholic believe the alter is a sacred place. There can be no evil preached there. I want to call them and tell them what I think of their Priest. The Catholic Church can not afford any more problems with their Priests! It has almost bankrupted the oldest religion in the world. I dare he denegrate his collar and wear it during that hateful speech, he needs to be defrocked. I think the Church needs to get rid of any Priest that would preach hate from the pulpit, it makes no difference which pulpit he is preaching from!

  132. Ironic that Rove calls Waffles’ campaign personality-driven. He would know. So was Bush’s campaign.

  133. this is what i posted earlier –so i am just gonna paste it here –i have a feeling that its true

    SONIA4HILLARY Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
    i believe ,its PELOSI- or — AL-GORE-JIMMY CARTER OR SOME PARTY ELDERS who are pulling these shots to discourage us

    also i think

    only 80 delegates left

    obama needs 45 according to his fuzzy math

    so what he is doing is pulling out sd,s from behind the curtain one by one –so hill supporters don,t gettoo mad . u know he is trying to make it normal.

    then he knows he will only have 25-30 of the left delegates because of puerto rico (WHERE HILL WILL WIN), so he wants to add 10 -15 more superdelegates to his math ,so that by june3rd night -his number will show 2025 and he can declare victory by saying he got it

    see, i think -he is very clever -he knows if he pulls 15 superdelegates after june3rd to get 2025 —hill fans will do riot

    so

    on june 3rd election day –he will act like he got 25 more delegates and got 2025 number –so he is the nominee

    he is sure dirty –see how he paid all ex-clinton supporters to his side ,the reason to do that was to get inside secrets of clintons or to find out how clintons function

    OH MAN i am hating obama more and more everyday

    he is no mr new politics

    he is the father of all the worst and dirty ones

  134. I hope Fox News keeps playing that Priest video so whole Catholic voters can see what a hateful man the Obama is. Who in their right mind would go to church there. What is wrong with Chicago, is it the seat of the devil or what?

  135. This is not exactly on point, but maybe you all won’t mind if I share this.
    I love to listen to very young kids talking about serious matters. It’s almost kind of a hobby. Here are 3 recent conversations that blew me away.

    -Just inside a supermarket: (waiting for parents?)
    “But it doesn’t matter if people vote or not because it all gets decided by the government.”
    “Not the government! The committee! The committee picks the nomination and then the people vote for the president the committee picked. After that, they pick out the votes they wanna count and the ones they don’t wanna count so they can decide which person they want for president.”
    “In school they say everybody should vote because the people pick the president. This is democracy.”
    “So, they lie.”
    “They lie to us in school?!”
    “Duh.”

    At this point, I asked the young pundit to repeat his explanation, because I thought it was an interesting summation. (I wanted to be able to quote him later) He proudly and carefully said it exactly the same way, and I hurried to the car to type it into my pda)
    ———————————
    – At a school bus stop:
    “A racist is an African American person who hates white people. They think we don’t like them because they look different.”
    “Whaa, everybody looks different.”
    ”Yeah, well, I know, but nobody thinks about that.”
    “I think I’m sorta tan and reddish.”
    “I didn’t know African people hate white people.”
    “It just now happened. I think it used to be the other way because of slaves.”
    “Does that mean whether a person is rich or poor?”
    ———————————–
    – On the porch outside the pizza place:
    “I wish we’d get a president that isn’t stupid.”
    “I wish we’d get a president who knows what to do about things.”
    “Like stop fighting a war and start fixing the bridges!”
    “How about make cars and trucks that don’t stink up the air!”
    “Like make my eyeglasses be for free!”
    “Nobody gives a s–t about your eyeglasses, you skink.”

  136. confloyd Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
    Does anyone know the telephone number of the arch diocese of that Priest Plager? I am Catholic and I am disgusted at the

    DON,T BE —
    this guy is friend of pastor wright what can we expect from anyone who is anywhere lose to him

    CANY AT CNN was saying pastor wright,jesse jackson,obama,and this pastor all know each other for 20 yrs …

    so they are all corrupt and thugs and racist and sexist .

    but i guess u wanna vent ur anger —-give me few fingers from all of us here too

  137. lil ole grape Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    r u serious ??

    how old are these kids ? thats sad

    sad because even our kids are worried
    funny because of the last part –eyeglasses for free –again cute and true

    kids realize too -all the issues we r facing

  138. So sorry, but Priests have rulz to comply by, very strict rulz! I want to point that out and see if this diocese is in on the ritual that is going on at TUCC.
    I was raised Catholic and when I approach any Alter at any Church, protestant or Catholic, I am very respectful of the Holy ground it represents. It is horrible that a Priest is in on this masacre!

  139. I wonder if thats how the Catholic churches and their Priests act in Chicago? If they are preaching hate from the alters at the Catholic Churches in Chicago, I would have to believe then that Chicago is the seat of the devil!

  140. .I AM SPEECHLESS!

    Breaking News

    Party officials said Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, had been contacting uncommitted superdelegates, encouraging them to prepare to go public and resolve any last question about the contest between Senators Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.
    “By this time next week, it will all be over, give or take a day,” Mr. Reid said in a Thursday appearance at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, where he was promoting a new memoir.
    Given Mr. Obama’s lead in the delegate race and potential support among the approximately 200 members of Congress and Democratic insiders who have yet to declare, the push to wind up the race works to his benefit. While Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid have remained publicly neutral in the nominating clash while emphasizing its potential benefits to the party, they now appear to have concluded that prolonging it much further could be detrimental.
    In an interview on the San Francisco talk radio station KGO, Mr. Reid said that he had spoken with Ms. Pelosi on Thursday and that they had agreed to take steps to avoid a contest that would extend into the convention in August. “We all are going to urge our folks next week to make a decision very quickly,” said Mr. Reid, who added that “simple math” indicated that by next Tuesday Mr. Obama would have the necessary number of delegates to prevail.
    Mr. Reid’s comments came after Ms. Pelosi told the editorial board of The San Francisco Chronicle on Wednesday that she would intercede if necessary, if the contest were not concluded by the end of June.
    The two Congressional leaders have no formal authority over the superdelegates, but can use their strong relationships and powers of persuasion to persuade some of their colleagues to make a public choice.
    Representatives of Mr. Reid and Ms. Pelosi will be on hand Saturday for the rules committee of the Democratic National Committee, when members meet to decide how the disputed delegates from the Florida and Michigan primaries should awarded.
    The argument on behalf of Mr. Obama will be made by Representative Robert Wexler, Democrat of Florida, and former Representative David Bonior, Democrat of Michigan. While party officials have suggested halving the delegates allowed from each state, aides to Mr. Obama said Thursday that they would also allow Mrs. Clinton to have a greater share of those delegates than they believe she deserves, hoping to resolve the dispute.
    Mr. Obama said he considered the general election campaign to formally begin after the last primaries, on Tuesday. Asked if he thought he would become the presumptive nominee then, he said, “I believe so.”
    “If we’ve gotten the number of delegates needed to secure the nomination, then I’m the nominee,” Mr. Obama told reporters late Wednesday. “If we’re short of that, we’ll have more work to do, but once we achieve it, I think we’ll be the nominee.”
    Jeff Zeleny contributed reporting.

  141. confloyd Says:

    oh boy

    u really are mad , well then find his number and call him . what the hell ,,whatever helps –i see u wanna –yell at him -hah

  142. Guest familiar with BHO and Father Pflunkie talked (again) about their friendship since the Chicago community organizing days. Don’t know about you…but I’m REALLY starting to wonder just what the hell they were organizing? I mean this IS Chicago we’re talking about. Wonder what the good Father’s favorite flavor of tea could be? Does he prefer Lipton or Luzinane teabags?

  143. An old newspaper article(Suntimes 2004/04/05) shed the close link between Obama and Pfleger…

    Obama Says That Pfleger Is A Moral Compass For Him

    “So, I have a deep faith,” Obama continues. “I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

    The biggest challenge, I think, is always maintaining your moral compass.”

    Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says

  144. Per no quarter:

    The Moment of Truth
    By CRAIG DELLA PENNAcloseAuthor: CRAIG DELLA PENNA Name: Craig CRAIG DELLA PENNA
    Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
    Site: http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/
    About: See Authors Posts (6) on May 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Current Affairs, DNC, Democracy, Democratic National Convention, Democrats, Hillary Clinton

    TO HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON:

    I have written to you before and I post regularly on my journal: The Heraclitan Fire and at No Quarter

    It seems to me that the fix is in, I think that Mr. Obama has already been chosen by the Democratic party ‘elders’ as their nominee. You know that this will be a disaster for the Democrats in November and will likely lead to John McCain’s election.

    I know you both are lifelong Democrats and I know your first instinct is to help the Democrats , no matter how badly you have been abused. I am writing to you to ask you to consider another option.

    The Democratic spinelessness and cowardice in regards to the Iraq war is spectacularly evident and Democrats are disgusted by the performance of Pelosi & Co. From what I am seeing and hearing there is a tremendous groundswell for creating a third party in this country. The time is right and you two are the perfect political team to do this.

    I know you are hesitant about abandoning the Democrats but consider that they have been co-opted by Bill Ayers’ and Barack Obama’s New Bolshevik cadres. In fact there is no Democratic party any longer. What is left is a cult very similar to the cults that followed Hitler, Lenin and Mao.

    Perhaps that seems a bit too far, yet we have all seen the skillful use of propaganda to camouflage lies, the selection of a scapegoat to blame all failures on, the incantations to belief that permeates the Obama ‘movement’ [sic].

    The combination of power starved, ineffectual party ‘leaders’ – who have all envied your actual accomplishments, while they were never able to do anything; and the hijacking of the caucuses, the party apparatus and the threats and intimidation of party delegates; should all be indicators that something very, very bad is going on.

    Indeed, I submit to you that the die is cast: the so-called Democratic party has been taken over by a group of far leftist/fascist radicals who are determined to foist their version of ‘democracy’ on the entire country.

    You may think that I am being paranoid – and perhaps I am, nevertheless what is true is that the Democratic party no longer has a place for anyone named “Clinton”.

    However, we who understand that, in the long run, substance trumps style; we who have waited – forever – it seems, for a candidate/party/zeitgeist that truly represents our fervent dreams. For us now is the moment, now is the time to rise up and declare ourselves, now is the point in the space-time continuum when we can grab hold of Archimedes’ lever and move the earth.

    I would say that this is a “once in a generation opportunity” but it is not, this chance only comes along once in a hundred years or more.

    Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton – you have the intelligence, you have the experience, you have the political knowledge, you have the influence, you have the organization and you have the will of the people.

    I know it will be hard, I know it will take time you could be using for your own private lives, I know it will take treasure and dedication and fierce resolve… I know it will take much, much more than you ever expected to be asked for… but, nevertheless, I am asking – and millions of Americans are asking: Take us away from these false ‘democrats’ help us create, organize and grow a new, truly, democratic party. A party for people with brains and guts and sense – a party for Americans not fanatics, for Americans not bigots, for Americans not cowards.

    We’re ready – we’re more than ready, only say the word and we are there.

    Craig Della Penna

  145. Basil, Hillary can still take it to the convention floor. Even if Obama and the press declare him the winner based on SDs public preferences (that is all they are at this point), if Hillary (and we her supporters) don’t back down, it MUST go to Denver. And lots can happen between now and then.

    Hillary will make that decision. If she does not drop out, it continues. She will have the popular vote.

  146. Well I am now pist as hell, WTF is Pelousi and Reid doing? The Texas Convention is next weekend and if Hillary is conceding and thats what it will take for BO to be declared the nominee, then someone better speak before anyone more of the people’s money is thrown away and this sham of an election!!

  147. What a freaking sham of an election, we nominate a racist, white hating bigot! That’s what the DNC wants, well this white woman will take her vote and her money and her hard work to McCain instantly!!!

  148. Hillary if you are out there and are reading these blogs, YOU HAD BETTER NOT QUIT OR I AND MANY OTHERS WILL LOSE FAITH IN WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR!!!

  149. confloyd, no need to get your bowels in an uproar just yet. Reid and Pelosi do have lots of clout, but they can not dictate when, how, and for whom the SDs will vote. They will put most pressure on members of Congress. But as for the others, we will have to wait and see. Trust. Hillary already knows where she stands. They have a strategy. Let’s get past this weekend, PR (which should be good for us), and the remaining contests and see what happens then.

  150. Besides, who’s to say Hillary would not win an informal vote among the SDs. We really don’t know where the SDs stand. We have been mostly living off of informal counts, rumors and media reports, none very reliable.

  151. I wish everyone luck going to D.C., we really only know what the pundits are saying and what the Obama’s would like us to believe. Sorry, I lost my cool, but there is so much bs on all of the blogs, its really hard to make heads or tales of the truth.
    I do know even if BO get enough Delegates to win, Hillary has to concede, until that happens, I guess we should assume she is taking it to the convention!

  152. u guys watched cnn now

    wow
    man

    why they did not show this stuff before

    anderson aired a small story on OBAMA

    ON HOW -HE -REMOVES -HIS -CHALLENGERS -BEFORE -EVEN -COMING -ON THE -BALLOT –

    i mean ,i am really scARED NOW . THIS GUY IS A REAL CHICAGO THUG -AGAIN NO OFFENSE TO CHICAGO PEOPLE

    they showed how alice palmer is now campaigning for hillary .she refused to talk about it –u know why she refused ,because she knows obama has links and she is afraid of her life just like those black superdelegates who had switch thier support from obama to hillary

  153. I just read over at TM that Axelrod is a member of the Church that Father Phleger is in charge of. What a Axis of Evil, I mean an Axelrod of evil!

  154. I wish the SDs would stand together and tell Pelosi & company that they’ll decide when they’re good and ready and that they’re sick of the Party putting so much pressure on them.

  155. I know what Pelousi and Reid are trying to do, they are trying to suppress the vote, so Hillary can’t get the popular vote lead any higher than she already has. It might embarass little Bambi. Everybody has to take up for the little helpless bambi!!

  156. well ,i know this is not time for joke -and i am not even funny unless someone hears me with my indian accent (thats a reason for laugh)

    but anyway

    i think if obama is elected –we will have 10 times more scandals than any president in history —

    we will have murders,bribing,affirs,racism,sexism,and god knows what else
    i never had any doubt in my mind that obama was no good but after watching CNN report now its officially confirmed for me that –HE IS EVIL THUG WITH FAKE MESSAGES —

    white house will be called –CHICAGO THUGS HOUSE

  157. Pelosi is trying to make the case that the one with a majority of delegates is the winner. By doing so she is trying to make up the rules as she goes along. First of all, she is not the one who decides under what criteria a winner is declared. Secondly, there is no such rule that already exits, and thirdly, there is no such precedent in Party convention history. She is hoping that be repeating this myth enough times, people will begin to accept it as reality. We must not let her, Obama and the media get away with it.

  158. evening everyone…… we have had some bad weather going thru iowa tonight and hubby is in south dakota
    and they too had tornado’s tonight…….hubby said the clouds were rotating pretty good tonight, but no tornadoes where he is

    but not far north of him by my girlfriend (where joe is staying) there were multiple on the ground at once!!

    and one of my kids is in denison ia, was scary there too, and another one of my kids over by fort dodge ia and it was reported
    there was a tornado on the ground there too tonight

    now i have to worry about my mom by mankato mn as she is getting the weather now in her area……. what a day!

  159. Mark Twain used to say that no man is safe when Congress is in session. Well . . . . . .sooner or later the Republicans will say no white person is safer with obama in the white house. Why? Because as the old saying goes by your friends, associates and spirtual advisors are you known. The hate speech you see from obama’s pals is the practical equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater, yet mr. passive aggeressive does nothing to stop it.

    Confloyd: I did call the archdioses, conveyed our collective outrage which is pouring in from women across the country and stated that if I did not hear back I could only assume the church condoned this hate speech. This kind of stuff is killing obama with the gender vote and womens groups are discussing what to do about it. They blame him.

  160. hey i love this idea!! from a poster on noquarter in regards to this weekends meeting…

    Hey if things do not go our way lets send a check made out to John McCain for a $1 and send it to the DNC and in the memo section put Hillary for President! Pass it on

  161. Paddy4Hill: this is the kind of thing we need to defuse this mantra. It is part of a letter written to one of the pack journalist who recites the false narrative that he is getting close and closer. Maybe this needs to be sent to some of the more responsible parties at certain networks for use in their talking points who woud be only to happy to run with the story that DNC party functionaries and press lackey are lying to the american people, etc. Any thoughts about this?
    ———————————————————————

    Dear Ms. Lakshmanan,

    Please refer to your article at the link above and also the sentences I have listed below which appear in the your article.

    I wish to draw your attention to two phrases which are erroneous, misleading and warrant public correction.

    1. Hillary Clinton is under increasing pressure to drop out of a Democratic nomination race that she has practically no chance of winning so Barack Obama can start the general-election campaign.

    The phrase I have highlighted is very misleading and constitutes biased reporting. Ms. Laksmanan, do you understand the rules for determining the Democratic nominee? At the completion of the primaries, neither candidate will have enough pledged delegates to win the nomination and will require the votes of superdelegates at the August convention to finalize the process. Until that time, there will be no official nominee. Furthermore, the cases of Florida and Michigan remain unresolved, further bringing into dispute how close either candidate it to reaching the “magic number” of delegates. When you say Clinton has “practically no chance of winning” you are buying into and supporting propaganda fueled by the Obama campaign and which ethical journalists should challenge. Do you wish to be regarded as an ethical journalist?

  162. yes pelosi and reid-teo vichy democrats who i watched cave time and again on fisa, on alito, etc now give their freaking ord that it is over next week?? yeah right. like grag rawford said today-saying it doesnt make it so. just like pelosi saying in 06 the dems would change the direction iraq. like that happened. instead the dems approved money for a surge! no wonder congress is hated. these dems arentfighters. they are vichy dems.

  163. that ac 360 on obama and his ne pastor issue was atually good. he got hammered. and the clinton amp has issued strong words about it. even crowley said this feeds into hill’s arguement to supers about obama being so risky. if anyone can find the u tube of it please post

  164. WOW HILLFANS! i just saw a segment on the o’rielly factor when o’reilly called msnbc in the tank for obama while carving up hillary. AWSOME! he was angry to say the least.

  165. May 29, 2008 8:28 PM

    The Clinton campaign’s communications director, Howard Wolfson, clearly thinks Obama’s rejection of Father Pfleger’s sermon was lacking.

    Wolfson says: “Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics. We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn’t specifically reject Father’s Pflegler’s despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so.”

  166. djia

    it must be scary there .
    well just keep on taking god,s name in ur heart and everyone will be fine .
    we r in california,weather is good here , i never seen or felt a tarnado but just watching it on tv scares me .

    good luck ,

  167. Terrondt…….I am just catching Bill o now too……….that was so awesome!!! 😀

    GO BILL!!!

    we should all email him some love !

  168. To Mr. Reid and Ms. Pelosi: Sometimes a yellow light actually does mean “slow down” rather than “speed up.” That panic you feel in the pit of your stomach telling you that you have to lean on the superdelegates is not only an abuse of power it is circumventing our process as a party and puts you on a collision course with some pretty bad outcomes. Rather than having faith in the process you are trying to control it. Our most basic democratic principles rest on the premise that all eligible voices are to be heard. In an election that has been heavily swayed by media bias and the most blatant sexism in modern history, let us remember fundamentally what we stand for. Principles come before party.

  169. everyone is fine here, thanks, and yes it is scary to think about…

    but i have not seen a tornado in all my years…..well…. i guess i was near enough to one that my baby sitter when i was 2 yrs old had to lay down in a ditch with me….but of course i don’t remember it .

  170. I am sick of this, I am debating starting a campaign in my district to unseat our democratic representative who first endorsed Edwards and then Obama. He must have a problem with women. If Reid, Pelosi, and Dean (there’s three “winners” for ya) think they can boss around the sd’s who represent only their district FIRST, not some partisan hierarchy, then I hope Nancy is ready to be unseated. And Dean, he is the biggest fool of all, and the cause of this. If this continues, my student’s group will endorse McCain, not that I like him, but to send a message, no matter how small, Students for Hillary President at University of Iowa, a swing state, endorse republican nominee. I have had it. I have never imagined that my party would betray people like this. I am done as a dem. June 2nd is the day I unregister. I am going to resign as soon as he is nominated from the University Democrats Executive Board. I hope it at least makes campus news, or local news, I will issue a press release to papers. Largest University in a swing state with the largest student organization….

  171. hillfans, even though it is great having bill call out msnbc i think it is more of his extreme dislike for msnbc than a champion for hillary. but i will take it.

  172. Wbboei, yes we need to do whatever necessary to counter the disinformation campaign being waged. Maybe Admin can run something on the front page too.

    Rules are rules!

  173. djia Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
    hey i love this idea!! from a poster on noquarter in regards to this weekends meeting…

    Hey if things do not go our way lets send a check made out to John McCain for a $1 and send it to the DNC and in the memo section put Hillary for President! Pass it on

    good idea. I am on board.

  174. hillfans, what time is the dnc committee hearing on sat? i assume it will be on cspan. i want to record it on my dvr.

  175. BEST OF THE WEB TODAY – WSJ online

    Meanwhile, Back at Trinity United
    By JAMES TARANTO
    May 29, 2008

    Blogger Armando Llorens of the pro-Clinton site TalkLeft.com1 has an eye-opening video from the Trinity United Church of Christ, which remains Barack Obama’s church. The video was uploaded to YouTube2 this past Sunday, though it is unclear if it was shot then or earlier. But to judge by the subject matter, it is quite recent.

    The video features Father Michael Pfleger, with an introduction by the Rev. Otis Moss, Jeremiah Wright’s successor at Trinity United. As we noted last month3, the Democratic presidential front-runner described Moss as a “wonderful young pastor” after Obama renounced Wright.

    Blogress Michelle Malkin4 has transcribed the video, in which Pfleger, described by Moss as “a friend of Trinity . . . a brother beloved . . . a preacher par excellence . . . a prophetic, powerful pulpiteer . . . our friend . . . our brother,” delivers a hateful rant against Hillary Clinton:

    When Hillary was crying [gesturing tears, uproarious laughter from audience]–and people said that was put-on–I really don’t believe it was put-on.
    I really believe that she just always thought “This is mine” [laughter, hoots]. “I’m Bill’s wife. I’m white. And this is mine. And I jus’ gotta get up. And step into the plate.” And then out of nowhere came, “Hey, I’m Barack Obama.” And she said: “Oh, damn! Where did you come from!?!?!” [Crowd going nuts, Pfleger screaming]. “I’m white! I’m entitled! There’s a black man stealing my show.” [Sobs.] She wasn’t the only one crying! There was a whole lotta white people cryin’!
    Who is Michael Pfleger? As we noted last month5, he is a strong supporter of Louis Farrakhan and has been described as a “spiritual adviser” to Obama. He also publicly threatened the life of a Chicago businessman and, according to one report, “is known for climbing ladders to deface liquor billboards.”

    In his Trinity United oration, Pfleger asserted that white people have a moral obligation to surrender their assets, which, he suggested, properly belong to blacks (the video clip begins in midsentence):

    –honest enough to address the one who says, “Well, don’t hold me responsible [gesticulating] for what my ancestors did.” But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did and unless you are ready to give up the benefits [voice rising], throw away your 401 fund, throw away your trust fund, throw away all the money you put into the company you walked into because yo’ daddy and yo’ granddaddy and yo’ greatgranddaddy–[screaming at the top of his lungs]–unless you’re willing to give up the benefits, then you must be responsible for what was done in your generation ‘cuz you are the beneficiary of this insurance policy!
    Pfleger is white. Many Illinois taxpayers are black. The New York Times6 reported earlier this month that the latter have been forced to subsidize the former, through the good offices of one state Sen. Barack Obama:

    Mr. Obama more eagerly met the demands for spending earmarks for churches and community groups in his district, said State Senator Donne E. Trotter, then the ranking Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee. “I know this firsthand, because the community groups in his district stopped coming to me,” Mr. Trotter said.
    Typical of Mr. Obama’s earmarks was a $100,000 grant for a youth center at a Catholic church run by the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a controversial priest who was one of the few South Side clergymen to back Mr. Obama against [Rep. Bobby] Rush.
    Father Pfleger has long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church. Father Pfleger, who did not return calls for comment, is one of the religious leaders whose “faith testimonials” Mr. Obama has posted on his presidential campaign Web site.
    We searched the Obama Web site in vain for Pfleger’s endorsement. It appears the campaign has suppressed it, although a copy appears on the Michelle Malkin page linked above.
    Llorens, the TalkLeft blogger who posted the video, says twice in his short post that “this has nothing to do with Barack Obama.” It seems to us Llorens is quite wrong about this, although possibly he is being ironic. For one thing, it raises serious questions about Obama’s moral judgment that he not only attends but sends his two young daughters to a church whose pulpit regularly features such hatred.

    It also renders doubtful one of the most frequent arguments for an Obama presidency: that he would diminish anti-American sentiment around the world through his conciliatory mien and tough diplomacy. His response to the political crisis over his spiritual advisers has been vacillatory, not conciliatory: first he stood by them, then he distanced himself from them. Now he pretends they don’t exist–which differs from the putative Bush administration approach to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad & Co. how exactly?

    Obama does not appear to have succeeded in diminishing anti-American sentiment in his own church, from religious leaders who fervently support him. The danger is that he would show similar weakness on the world stage, and that America’s enemies would find such weakness provocative rather than meliorative.

    Goodwill Industries7
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in an interview8 (audio only) with the San Francisco Chronicle, offers a curious explanation for recent American success in Iraq:

    The purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn’t happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn’t accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians–they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities–the Iranians.
    “This is an inexcusable slander,” fumes Commentary’s Abe Greenwald, who accuses Pelosi of “discounting the success of the American military, denying the accomplishments of U.S. allies, and giving the credit to our most dangerous enemies.”

    But doesn’t this miss the point? Who needs Barack Obama if the Bush administration is generating so much Iranian goodwill?

    Cheney Liberates Auschwitz9
    By now you’ve heard about this slip-up from Barack Obama:

    “I had an uncle who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. The story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months,” Obama said.
    Obama’s campaign later issued a statement saying it was his great-uncle, not his uncle, who participated in liberating the Buchanwald concentration camp, not the Auschwitz death camp. The latter was liberated by the Soviet army.

    But what caught our attention was the bit about the attic. Compare to this CNN10 report from November:

    Obama was referencing the recent revelation by the Vice President’s wife, Lynne Cheney, that he and the Vice President are distantly related.
    “For the first time in a long time, the name George Bush will not appear on the ballot,” he told the crowd of about 500 people at Converse College in Spartanburg.
    “The name Dick Cheney, my cousin, will not appear on the ballot,” Obama said. “We had been trying to hide that cousin thing for a long time. Everybody’s got a black sheep in the family. A crazy uncle in the attic.”
    And where was Barack Obama when crazy old Dick Cheney was liberating Auschwitz? Let’s just say he had other priorities.

  176. a few nights ago i was brousing the mccain.com online store for bumper stickers and buttons. hell i just MIGHT be wearing a john mccain t-shirt in the near future. my die-hard blue dem grandfather might be rolling in his grave.

  177. hawk Says:

    May 29th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    oh -u r angry too .

    i was earlier then i saw obama,s report on cnn and i ate cheese cake –so i am okay now

    but calm down

    don,t quit , but try changing people,s minds there ,try to get them to litsen to you ,

    Obama is the scariest politician ever –but if u watched cnn today —-what he did –he was getting signatures from local people —-

    so may be u got to do something like that ,
    i do not understand the whole situation of urs
    BUT I DO KNOW when u quit — U R CALLED LOSER

    AND if u fight for whats right -U R THE WINNER

    thats why i love hillary ,thats why i will support her till the end

    becuase even though i am sure she is very angry but she is holding on ,,she is fighting ,,and she will be the winner ,,

    so be a winner –fight for whats right (sorry don,t mean to lecture you )

  178. wbboei, I tell you I was outraged at this Priest. I am sure the Obama people want this kept quiet, but I have to tell you this Priest should be defrocked. Its a travesty the hate that was coming out of his mouth!! I can tell you the Church doesn’t need anymore controversy! Its disgusting!!

  179. that priest knew what the hell he was doing. he knew that horrible sermon was going to get out.

  180. i do watch fox these days

    but i am mad at them too

    if they really cared for this country and for hillary –they should have called on obama last year in december –they should have aired these videos before .

    but i guess they realized too late –that the person (hillary)they been hating for 15 yrs is the best human being,best mothermbest leader for this country ,,,,

    well you know how they say — ITS NEVER TOO LATE–

    so people gear up and get to work

  181. I’m good ‘n’ drunk and Lost is over so I think I can say some things

    I’m going back to Iraq soon–it’s ok, I volunteered and I’m Ok with that. I’l either win this war fer y’all or die in the attempt. That is all fine with me. WTF am I burning all this carbon fer?

    …Ya feel?

    But what is going to happen when I get there?

    I think that my gurl Hilldawg is going to figure out how to win the war and bring us all home eventually. She’s smart, courageous and a fighter fer what’s right. My gurl is a universal bada$$, I know that and you know that. Plus I know that I don’t have to convince the MSM ’cause they know the truth….that bitch can change the world.

    BTW bitches get shit done…thanks Tina Fey!

    FBO

    I am gonna see if I can get that as my Bumper sticker. If you see that you MF’ers know it is me…ya feel me?

    I don’t have too many months left here in tha states so it may be fleeting or you may see the family member tasked with driving the car to keep it in good shape when I return. Either way, know that I think that BHO is the worst politician to come our way in a very long time.

    Acorn. Community organizer.

    You mean to tell me that this jackass is a lame protestor who trained others in how to be a lame protestor? Then ACORN sponsored him as state senator and then as president? Whrn we have so many people saying that ther were discrepancies in all these caucauses? When Acorn is singularly responsible for all these phony voter registrations–registrations that amounted to asylym inmates and people with Alzheimers in order to sway the vote.

    Gee, I wonder how you won all those Caucauses?

    maybe your private army of acorners, inmates and alzheimer’s patients???

    FBO

    Did they tell you to hate us troops?

    When the EFPs from Iran explode and kill my friends and subordinates, will you cry with me OB?

    Or will you call me bitter? Will you say that I have some racial bias? Will you use me to justify your policy of appeasement?

    SGT _____ was maimed in an attack today and that means that we should surrender to Iran…

    FBO

    That is what I am going to say if I am able. If I were Indiana Jones, my last words to the soviets would be, “FBO.”

    Instead of, “I like Ike”

    FBO

    Unlike you I believe that Iran is a dangerous place and Iraq is a place that needs our help. Nuclear weapons are necessary until we make some kind of lasting peace with our neighbors.

    I know you won’t make that happen. You’re a wuss.

    I promise you this. If you come to Iraq and I am there, I will make it my mission in life to find you, get an audience with you and tell you how you solidified your vote in SC by calling John Edwards, “the white guy”.

    How you sullied the noble name of HRC with your surrogate claims of racism.

    How you let HRC get carved up and how you got away with no scrutiny whatsoever.

    I’ll be there, asking about Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, and ACORN.

    I’ll be there, writing in HRC on my absentee ballot while the mortars rain down on me in my crappy concrete bunker.

    BHO, come meet me in Iraq.

    I’ll be waiting.

    oh and FBO

    You cockbag.

  182. BUT the most shocking thing is why these priests are talking like that . they r friends with obama so basically they conveying what ,s obama s thinking is .

    also —–i was speechless on seeing the peopl ein church laughing it up by it .
    i am not racist but i am a human and i am woman( on top of it )so my point is how can you laugh when ur priest is insulting some woman,s emotins ,,

    and its not even some average woman like us but first lady,a woman who is loyal to thier community ,a first female ever running for president

    to me not only they are racist but sexist ,,and those priests have brainwashed those people

  183. vet

    r u in army .

    i salute you .
    i have a big mouth but little heart , i am chicken , i could never do what u guys/girls do . you r brave .

  184. Bravo mollyjrichards!

    You have hit the proverbial nail on the head. ABUSE OF POWER – by forcing the superdelegates inot making a decision – they are absolutely and totally perforing the exact OPPOSITE of the oath each of these ELECTED officials took upon assuming the duties to REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. How dare they – IGNORING the will of the people?!? Where’s the Karl Rove erase board when you need it – Caucus voters per delegate representation vs. Primary voters per delegate representation? Other states moving up their primary/caucus dates AND lineups without ANY penalty. C’mon. This is like playground politics with the cool kids ganging up, bullying and belittling the nerds, but instead of the teachers and administrators putting a stop to it, they are allowing the injustices to continue. And what would the PARENTS do – the taxpayers funding their salaries? THEY would FORCE the school board to address the ineptness, FIRE THEM and protect the interest of their children. Attorneys sue school districts for violation of childrens’ CIVIL RIGHTS. And yes, with very little provocation – this bullying occurring is CRIMINAL ACTIVITY!! Let’s just say it like it is. CRIMINAL!!! So……we “parents/taxpayers” must prevail, even if our “school board” is the blankety-blank SUPREME COURT!!!

    Hawk: I totally share your frustration as well.

    Having T-shirt printed if this thing goes south:

    Crooked DNC and $D
    =
    Straight GOP

    Nov ’08

  185. Bonior, Wexler to Represent Obama at FL/Mi Meeting
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:46:19 PM EST
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    The Detroit Free Press reports that former Congressman and campaign manager for John Edwards, David Bonior and FL Rep. Robert Wexler will argue for Barack Obama at the Florida Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting Saturday.

    Who is arguing for Hillary? The article doesn’t say.

    The hearing is televised and BTD and I will be live-blogging from our respective locations while TalkLeft commenter (and attorney) BackFromOhio will be TalkLeft’s credentialed blogger at the meeting and live-blogging on scene.

    Should be a big day, I hope you’ll join us.

  186. Michigan Calls Out DNC For Its Hypocrisy On “The Rulz”
    By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Thu May 29, 2008 at 04:16:39 PM EST
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    Great letter from Michigan to the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee:

    . . . .While Michigan Democrats were disappointed that our state was not selected for one of the pre-window contests, we appreciated the new rule for adding a bit of much-needed diversity to the early nominating process, and as a first step toward breaking the Iowa-New Hampshire lock on the process. We notified the DNC that we would abide by the new calendar and its sequence provided that other states did the same. To be clear – the key issue which the new rule resolved was the sequence of the pre-window states, not just the number of pre-window states.

    More…

    But at a press conference in Dover, New Hampshire last August 9, the New Hampshire Secretary of State indicated he was going to schedule his state’s primary before the date specified in the DNC rule, clearly defying the sequence and timing the Rules and Bylaws Committee had set. Michigan Democratic leaders wrote to Governor Dean asking if the DNC intended to enforce the rule against New Hampshire, but the DNC refused to act or even to answer our letters for months.

    The Democratic National Committee then proceeded to selectively enforce its calendar rule. On December 3, the Rules and Bylaws Committee voted to give New Hampshire a waiver to move from third to second place in the sequence. Michigan requested a waiver and was denied. When the Rules and Bylaws Committee itself decided not to follow its own newly adopted, hard-fought for rules and granted a waiver to New Hampshire, it set the stage for the present situation.

    (Emphasis supplied.) Exactly. Call em out Michigan!! Let Donna Brazile explain that. Rulz are Rulz!!! Except when they are not.

    By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only

  187. Important PR Figure Supports Hillary
    By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:29:25 PM EST
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    No, I am not talking about Ricky Martin, I am talking about Jose Alfredo Hernandez Mayoral, the son of the still popular ex-Commonwealth Governor Rafael Hernandez Colon, who has endorsed Barack Obama. This is significant in my estimation, because after the current Commonwealth Governor Acevedo Vila, an Obama supporter, loses his reelection bid badly in November, Hernandez Mayoral will become the leader of the Commonwealth Party I predict. Hernandez Mayoral said:

    [T]he Puerto Rican people are clear that Clinton’s proposals on the economy, heath care, the environment and against crime are superior to her rival’s.

    An interesting development to me at least.

  188. looks like rezko may get a little more publicity 😀

    Arrest Warrant Issued for Rezko Over Casino Gambling Debts
    By Jeralyn, Section Corruption Cases
    Posted on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:21:49 PM EST
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    Whatever the jury decides in the Chicago trial of Tony Rezko, his problems aren’t over. A Nevada judge has issued a felony arrest warrant for him as a result of his alleged failure to pay gambling debts.

    Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who is standing trial on federal corruption charges in Chicago, is wanted in Las Vegas for failing to pay $472,275 in gambling debts to Caesars Palace and Bally’s and related processing fees to the Clark County district attorney’s office.

    The total unpaid Strip bill comes to more than $800,000, however, because the Bellagio obtained a judgment of default against Rezko a year ago for not repaying $331,000 in gambling markers.

    More…

    The warrants were issued a few weeks ago.

    Rezko was charged in a criminal complaint in Las Vegas on May 13 with two counts of fraud stemming from $250,000 in gambling debts at Caesars Palace and $200,000 in markers at Bally’s.

    At Caesars, between March 25 and July 14, 2006 Rezko cashed a $195,000 personal check that came back for insufficient funds and was given $55,000 in markers on four other occasions, according to the complaint. He also was given four markers totaling $200,000 on July 13, 2006, at Bally’s, the complaint said.

    Records show that Rezko made two restitution payments through the district attorney’s office of $7,500 each on Oct. 24 and another payment of $7,500 on Dec. 7. No additional payments were made.

  189. Sonia,

    F@ck Barck Obama, baby.

    F@ck him.

    He’d fuck you if he could.

    Or worse he’d vote to let Iranians fuck you with IEDs that left you in pieces so that he could claim the moral highground.

    If he is the pres, I’ll do what he says.

    He ain’t the pres right now. So FBO.

  190. vets4hilldawg Says:

    May 30th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    hey go for it

    if u need help ,pls tell me –just kidding

  191. No Quarter has new video of Father Pfleger;

    Holy Mary, mother of God, how does anyone listen to this garbage, much less someone who wants to seriously be considered for the presidency – or dog catcher, for that matter?

    And of course Pfleger is another 20-year association (as LJ points out)
    though BO is sure to downgrade him ASAP to ‘soon-retiring, former Father 🙂

    “At least Obama had the common sense not to list Farrakhan as one of his spiritual advisors. But not so with Wright and Pfleger. Both appeared on Barack’s campaign site as “official spiritual advisors.” Barack has scrubbed the site of their images, but they were listed and the screenshots are readily available. But Barack cannot erase the past. Here is Pfleger talking to the Chicago Sun Times in 2004 about his young brother:

    Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

    “I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you’ve got to face God,” Pfleger says of Obama. “Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father…. I don’t think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is.”

  192. Gee, maybe someone will finally ask Oprah if it was Father Pfleger’s sermons or Reverend Wright’s that caused her to leave Trinity…

  193. Let’s call it like it really is here:

    Pelosi and Reid are declaring war on the majority of the party who has — and will have after June 3rd — voted for Hillary. This is an elitist coup, period.

    And no, I’m not talking about ‘half the party.’ Hillary has not won half the party — or the electorate who has cast ballots in the Dem. nomination process.

    She has won a majority.

    And the majority rules. Just ask Al Gore and Floridians.

    Pelosi, Reid and Bambi are trying to roll us. I have heard Bambians gurgle in the last few days that Hillary will never be President, period.

    This is war, friends. However you want to call it or whatever your metaphor. If we lay down for these people, they will over-run us.

    I’m not rolling over for anyone, and neither should anyone else.

    * We, as Dems, know we were screwed in 2000. And yet here we are, making Bambi Bush II. That flies in the face of democratic principle

    *THE charge of the superdelegates is to decide and choose which candidate is more electable, not to hold an internal popularity contest or to kowtow to 11% of the national electorate. Every single objective piece of data shows Hillary is more electable than BaJoke, and these people could be on the verge of abandoning their duties, at the behest of White Flag Reid and Surrendering Pelosi

    We are now in a full fight for our party. If the elites are allowed to overturn the will of us, the voters, we are nothing, and have nothing. It’s as simple as that.

    Hawk — Excellent. That is a great idea. We need to begin the process of picking-off those who have decided to go against the popular will of the party and the general electorate in the primary process. You suggestion is exactly the kind of thing which we need to start mapping out.

    What we do in the coming weeks and months will decide whether or not our party remains intact and viable. All of us share in the responsibility to make sure we have done what we are able in order to reclaim our party from the would-be coupists.

    We owe it to ourselves and we owe it to future Democrats.

    As our forefathers fought for us over 200 years ago, let us take up our own metaphorical arms in order to make sure that the party we have stood by our entire lives is not destroyed by race-baiting, jealous misogynists.

    If Pelosi, Reid and Bambi want a ‘fight,’ then a ‘fight’ they will have.

    Sorry, Nancy and Harry — we don’t take orders from losers who have led our majority Congress to something like an 11% approval rating. You’re both jokes, just like the rest of the also-ran set (Daschle, Biden, …) who is trying to push the Clintons — the only people who have won jack for our party in 28 years — are. Stand down, losers. Or face calamity in November.

    We all know Bambi can’t win. Are you really going to send your soldiers to war with a general who is heading to Waterloo?

    If so, you and Dean need to go. And we will work towards that end, for the good of the party.
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  194. Hard not to notice that as 5-31 draws near – and according to THEIR narrative the end is fast approaching – both CNN (with it’s 6 months late Alice Palmer story) and now the right-wing tools @ Politico are beginning to find it in themselves to reveal the truth.

    White women cold toward Obama
    By: David Paul Kuhn
    May 29, 2008 06:38 PM EST

    Barack Obama’s favorability ratings among white women have declined significantly in recent months, particularly among Democrats and independents, presenting an immediate obstacle for the likely Democratic nominee as he moves to shore up his party’s base.

    According to a new report by The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, half of white women now have a negative perception of Obama.

    Forty-nine percent of white women view Obama unfavorably, while only 43 percent hold a favorable opinion. In February, 36 percent of these women viewed Obama unfavorably, while 56 percent had a positive perception of the likely Democratic nominee.

    Over the same period, Democratic white women’s negative view of Obama increased from 21 percent to 35 percent, while their positive view decreased from 72 percent to 60 percent — roughly the same rate as white women overall.

    White men, in general and among Democrats, have shown only a slight drop-off in their perception of Obama — one-third of the shift seen in white women. About 20 percent of Democratic white men have an unfavorable view of Obama, a figure which has remained stable since February.

    Pew also found that among self-described Clinton supporters, the negative shift against Obama is more severe among women than among men.

    The Pew findings come as Obama’s campaign struggles to close up the primary race while also attempting to avoid the perception of pushing Hillary Rodham Clinton out, for fear of offending her most loyal supporters — the largest bloc of which are white women.

    Still unknown is whether white women’s support for Clinton would translate into problems for Obama in the general election.

    Intraparty divisions that arise during the primary season are typically mended over the course of the general election. Bill Clinton struggled with college-educated Democrats in the 1992 primary, as John F. Kerry did with young Democratic voters in the early stages of the 2004 race. Both candidates won back these blocs in the general election.

    But the Democratic primary race of 2008 is without modern precedent, insofar as black support for Obama and white female support for Clinton are tied up in the symbolism of each candidate’s historic presidential bid.

    “There is some sense of the visceral investment with Clinton,” said Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist. Lake believes once the general election is under way, these same white women will gradually move away from McCain over issues, with the expectation that Clinton will campaign on Obama’s behalf if he is the nominee.

    “In the long run, women will watch Hillary Clinton’s reaction, how she’s treated by Barack Obama,” Lake added.

    White women as a whole now prefer John McCain over Obama, by 49 percent to 41 percent. Last month, Obama was ahead of McCain among white women, 49 percent to 46 percent. The head-to-head matchup between McCain and Obama has not significantly shifted among white men.

    “There is no question that white women were — especially older women, not young women — Hillary’s Clinton’s base in the primary, and there is going to be some repair work that has to be done,” Democratic analyst Anna Greenberg said. “There is no reason to believe that these Democratic white women are not pursuable.

    “The priority is going to be to bring back these voters,” Greenberg added.

    Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who has worked with Lake on surveys of women, said that “the steady shift of white women away from Barack Obama” could prove “enduring heading into November.”

    “These women have two issues at the top of their agenda that require experience and reasonableness—war and economy,” Conway said. “For many of these women, when they hear Barack Obama talk about change they hear revolution, not incrementalism.

    Conway believes that McCain has particular strengths with these women that allow him to be viewed as independent of the Republican brand.
    “Those women will likely vote Democratic down ballot,” she added. “This race is now Barack Obama versus John McCain.”
    Democrats have come closest to capturing the White House by winning minorities by large margins and nearly splitting white women, as they did in 2000. Republicans have generally relied on their dominance with white men to put them in the White House, while winning at least half the vote among white women.

  195. “Those women will likely vote Democratic down ballot,” she added. “This race is now Barack Obama versus John McCain.”

    She got it half right. Many if not most white women will vote Democratic down ballot but not the top, if Obama is the candidate. Come on John; put a woman on your ticket. That will finish Obama off if he is the nominee.

    She got it half wrong: The nomination contest is not over. Check back in August.

  196. Too drunk to read all the comments right now, but miss you guys. Will be back in the next few days. To Rachel Moss aka- bitch ass face—- how were the fatties? 👿

  197. Who exactly is left that Obama has not insulted? White women, all white people, Catholics, Jews. Who does he have left AA’s, and the few white liberals. It will be hard to beat McCain with what he has left! I predict that if Hillary is cheated out of the nomination a landslide victory for McCain with our help! 🙂

  198. Everyone, I think we need to start preparing for 2012. If the fix is in, Obama will probably be the nominee and Hillary’s chance to say I told you so will come. He must lose to McCain! If Hillary asks us to vote for Obama, we must say no! We must understand that she is being forced to do so! If she thinks about accepting the VP slot, for her own good, we must vote against it! He will be destroyed and Hillary will be there to pickup the pieces in 2012 against an aging McCain. As for Barack, if he had waited his turn, things could’ve been different. How sad!

    Hillary 2008 or 2012, no exceptions!

  199. One more thing before I call it a night. I am a Catholic and I was raised by a very devout Catholic and I can tell that God does live in that Church! God cannot live where hate exists. There is a demon in that church and it has taken it over! When I saw the Catholic Priest say those things I knew who was running that Church and folks it isn’t Jesus Christ! So that should tell what kind of guy Obama is!!

  200. I know alot of Hillary supporters want her to have a floor fight but we must remember Obama has to be damaged in a way where Hillary cannot be directly blamed. I think Rove and others will do our work for us. After all, they could care less about falsely labeled as racist because republicans don’t need the black vote!

  201. OkieAtty Says:

    May 30th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    okkie ..

    pls e-mail 1950democrat ,she/he has my e-mail address.

    i want to apologize to you .
    i was wrong and you were right .i just found out in last 2 days that those comments that got mad about were really used at DAILYKOS AS if all of us are racist

    and i really did not know that about campaign rules
    but i saw them (obamabots)making a big deal out of me donating with my hubby,s card .

    its not like i stole it – he was standing by me or may be he don,t know how to use a pc

    but anyway ,,i did not know some people were spying so much and passing the info on to other places

    I AM SORRY
    I AM SORRY
    I AM SORRY

  202. OKKIE

    PLS e-mail me through ADMIN or 1950 dem ,,,

    you can cuss at me or anything . i should not have argued with you and pls e-mail me and let me know ,if u want me to stop blogging here –i will

    pls come back

    i have seen everyone asking for you .

  203. OKIE !!!!!

    WTF?
    we need every warrior, we can get here….

    screw you varmints, we’re a family, come back K?

  204. Poor WashPo pundit EJ Dion: after so many years of trying to avoid the truth guess what? Zam bam alaca zam the truth found him! This:

    May 30, 2008
    Women Scorned
    By E. J. Dionne

    WASHINGTON — How much anger is there among women about how Hillary Clinton has been treated during this campaign? Some of the nation’s leading female politicians will tell you: quite a lot.

    “From the beginning, she’s been treated very badly,” says Therese Murray, the president of the Massachusetts Senate. “No woman would have run with Obama’s resume. She wouldn’t have been considered.” But Clinton has been “demonized by the press and the talking heads. How do you get away with that?”

    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., says she is regularly approached “by women of all races, of all ages, of all faiths. They stop me, grab my hand and say, ‘Look what they’ve done to her, we were so close.’ They wanted this for their daughters and granddaughters. … It’s so heartbreaking.”

    For Rep. Darlene Hooley, D-Ore., the symbol that “sexism reigns supreme” was in the wide availability of offensive anti-Hillary paraphernalia in stores and on the Internet. For Barbara Johnson, president of the Minneapolis City Council, Clinton may have been the victim of “ageism” as much as sexism. The message, she said, was: “Your time is past, it’s time for somebody new to take your place.”

    Many women, said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif., “knew we had made many strides. They asked, ‘Aren’t we past this? What’s going on?’ They’re not happy with what they see as sexism, permitted by the media and in some cases encouraged by the media.”

    If there is good news for Barack Obama in any of this, it is that the rage felt by Clinton’s female supporters is directed in large part toward the media. “The anger is aimed much more at you all,” said Lt. Gov. Elizabeth Roberts of Rhode Island. Added Murray: “Obama wouldn’t have gotten to where he got today if it weren’t for the bias of the male media — no offense.”

    It’s true that campaigns and political movements use anger as a bargaining chip. The message is: Appease us or we will cause trouble. The Clinton campaign is hoping that such rage will strengthen its hand in the battle to seat pro-Clinton Michigan and Florida delegations at the party’s national convention, even though those states held early primaries in violation of party rules.

    But the conversations I had this week with prominent female politicians from around the country who support Clinton suggest that the fury and disappointment is about more than short-term maneuvering. In many cases, it is rooted in the empathy of women who themselves broke gender barriers at various levels of politics.

    Murray, for example, is the first woman to lead the Massachusetts Senate. Hooley was the first woman on the City Council in West Linn, Ore., and the first woman elected as a commissioner of Clackamas County. Johnson says proudly that she is the (BEG ITAL)second(END ITAL) woman to serve as president of the Minneapolis City Council. Her mother was the first.

    “She (Clinton) is striking a chord among women who have been involved in politics for a long time and who have been waiting for a long time,” said Nancy Kopp, Maryland’s treasurer.

    Female politicians feel for Clinton as someone who regularly faces questions male politicians would never be asked. When a reporter queried Roberts about “my brand of lipstick and what color was it,” she revealed the vital information — “Revlon Number 235” — but noted that “some of my supporters were offended that she asked me.”

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  205. If the Catholic Church is serious about its mission in the world, it should fire the priest and issue a statement distancing (condemnation would be best) the Church from his comments and racist positions. If it does not, well, actions speak louder than words.

  206. THERES NO 2012

    dont even f*cking say that…
    hillary didnt say she’s going anywhere.
    why would you come on here and say obama will be the nominee!

    hillary 2012? F * U K…NO!

    hillary needs to be careful cause she needs the black vote?
    HELL NO! she only needs the black votes of those that love her, and there are quite a few…
    other than that, she has every other color in the rainbow, she needs to be FEARLESS, just like we do…

    no defeatist talk here… buck up, get some backbone…

  207. Too bad we do not have some state legistlatures with some balls to call out SD’s from their own states. Would be overturned by the courts, but would love to see the DNC in a panic if states passed laws saying the SD’s had to vote the way the state went.

  208. warehouse, I am certain she will. The real race for SDs begins next week. It is a most delegates vs. most popular vote issue. We have the high ground, hence the rush to push Hillary out. She is one tough woman and we are one bunch of tough supporters.
    Bring it on!

  209. oh and okie,

    remember your warning about the emailing crap going on here…
    dont forget it k?

  210. Forty-nine percent of white women view Obama unfavorably, while only 43 percent hold a favorable opinion. In February, 36 percent of these women viewed Obama unfavorably, while 56 percent had a positive perception of the likely Democratic nominee.
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    I think it is fair to say that Barack has managed to do alot of conscience raising among women. When his methods are so transparent what the hell is wrong with the 43?

  211. skmf12,

    I mean no disrespect toward Hillary or other supporters. Can the SD choose Hillary without angering the AAs. I mean if he were white, let’s be honest, he would have been thrown under the bus, already. So, how do we get AAs to accept Hillary is the most electable? Any suggestions? Because, I do fear riots.

  212. From Wikipedia:

    “The United States presidential nominating convention is a political convention held every four years in the United States by the political parties who will be fielding nominees in the upcoming U.S. presidential election. The formal purpose of such a convention is to select the party’s nominee for President, as well as to adopt a statement of party principles and goals known as the platform and adopt the rules for the party’s activities, including the presidential nominating process for the next election cycle. Due to changes in election laws and the manner in which political campaigns are run, conventions since the last quarter of the 20th century have virtually abdicated their original roles, and are today mostly ceremonial affairs.”
    ……..

    I can’t believe that Reid and Pelosi are acting as fascist dictators, trying to squelch and kill the convention, and to make sure that everything is decided by next week, and the press is letting them get away with it. If ANY primary ever SCREAMED for the formal process of a convention to decide the winner, this is the year.

  213. Father Pfleger’s racist rants at Trinity are all over cable TV tonight. FOX, CNN, everything. The Obama camp is desperate to kill the story and tries to argue that the Rev. Wright fiasco didn’t hurt Obama, which is a bald-faced lie. Ever since the Wright story broke, Obama’s been getting crushed in the primaries. It’ll be downhill from here.

  214. paddy4hill: She got it half wrong: The nomination contest is not over. Check back in August.
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    Spot on. Conventional assumptions do not apply here. This is all uncharted territory and barack is by all reliable* accounts a depreciating ass et. This is like the dance of the seven veils.

    Hi Oakie! Back in the days when I could rub two nickels together it was mccallum single malt. Now its ripple and night train. Once you get the screw cap off it really isnt so bad. But I have given it up for Lent.

  215. Forty-nine percent of white women view Obama unfavorably, while only 43 percent hold a favorable opinion.
    ———

    This is what he gets for going around calling female reporters “sweetie.” With Obama, it’s one blunder after another.

  216. It’s the electability, stupid:


    PRINCETON, NJ — In the 20 states where Hillary Clinton has claimed victory in the 2008 Democratic primary and caucus elections (winning the popular vote), she has led John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily trial heats for the general election over the past two weeks of Gallup Poll Daily tracking by 50% to 43%. In those same states, Barack Obama is about tied with McCain among national registered voters, 45% to 46%.

    In contrast, in the 28 states and the District of Columbia where Obama has won a higher share of the popular vote against Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primaries and caucuses, there is essentially no difference in how Obama and Clinton each fare against McCain. Both Democrats are statistically tied with him for the fall election.

  217. BELOW THE FOLD ARE MORE PRESS RELEASES from similar groups — including A RALLY featuring WomenCount and Count Every Vote ’08 Rally organizers, whose speakers for DNC RBC rally on May 31st are Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Kim Gandy, and others.]

    Today, on Fox News’s Neil Cavuto show, Clinton supporter Christi Adkins spoke for millions of us in wanting all the votes — including those of Florida and Michigan — to be counted, particularly since in caucus states, Clinton supporters were already disadvantaged by being unfairly overwhelmed and bullied aside by young Obama-ites who wrested control of precinct and county caucus gatherings (which many hard-working Clinton supporters couldn’t attend because they had to work, care for small children, or were in a hospital or nursing home).

    The numbers coming are huge — I’ve heard that three busloads of women just from one part of North Carolina are enroute.

    I looked up Christi’s group: “DNC March May 31…All Voices Heard, All Votes Matter

    From her press release:

    The marchers believe that anything short of counting the votes and seating the delegates, as voted, is a violation of the fundamental civil rights and civil liberties of MI and FL voters, and an affront to us all.

    “We must not allow this injustice to occur. Will the DNC party to do to itself what the Republicans did to the entire nation in 2000?

    We must make all voices heard and all vote matter–we do so with this Movement March for Michigan and Florida on MAY 31…we do so as the rules committee begins their meetings at 9am,” states Ricki Lieberman, chairman of the group.

    This march is sure to generate buzz as the organizers intend to send Bologna sandwiches to the DNC rules committee to let them know that not seating Michigan and Florida is Bologna. The marchers will also send Lemon-Aid to demonstrate the sour taste left in their mouths because of the injustice in Florida and Michigan. And, their are hints of parading a live donkey as a display of the A__ __ the DNC will be should they not seat those two states.

    To Join in this history making event, or to find out more, visit http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org/ or blog.enablemyself.com.

    Maybe it is a democratic nation after all! I say, let your voice be heard.

    Cristi Adkins, RN Cht

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    ANOTHER PRESS RELEASE:

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    WOMENCOUNT PAC responds to Obama campaign’s

    accusations of “creating chaos” at Saturday rally

    San Francisco, CA May 29, 2008 – WomenCount PAC strongly denounces the Obama campaign’s claim that a planned rally before the DNC Rules Committee on Saturday is intended to “create chaos” and underscores that the event
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    from no quarter…

  218. URGENT BREAKING NEWS FROM TX: SUPERD AND CHAIR OF TX DEM PARTY BOYD RITCHIE HAS SUDDENLY DECIDED TO THROW HIS SUPPORT TO OBAMA ONE WEEK BEFORE THE TX STATE CONVENTION WHERE 170 CAUCUS CHALLNEGES ARE BEING CONTESTED. BELOW IS ACTION ITEMS ON THIS OUTRAGE. I NEED YALL TO PLEASE HELP ON THIS MATTER. WE ARE FURIOUS HERE-WITH HILLARY WINNING THE VOTE HERE.
    So many of you have heard about Boyd Richie, the chair of the Texas Democratic Party, endorsing Obama. Obviously, this already passionate group of supporters both Hillary and Obama who will be attending the convention next week, should be led by a leader of the Texas Democratic Party who has stayed neutral. Instead he has made the decision to not listen to the will of Texans and not listen to the will of voters (there are ONLY 5 days left in this long primary season). Was it really necessary for him to make an endorsement less than a week before the Texas Convention? Please feel free to write to him as well as others at the TDP: TDP: Boyd Richieyellowdog@txdemocrats.orgbrichie@txdemocrats.org (512) 478-9800 Abigail Joffrain, Special Assistant to the Chairman – ajoffrain@txdemocrats.org Hector Nieto, Communications Director – hnieto@txdemocrats.org Cell: (956) 251-2902 DeAnna Mack, Receptionist – dmack@txdemocrats.org Isabel Zermeno, Convention Director – izermeno@txdemocrats.org Ruben Hernandez, Executive Director – rhernandez@txdemocrats.org

  219. warehousd553: what are you talking about? We are not in the business of damaging Obama. But we do have a right to point out the things about him that are true and bear on the question of his electability. It just so happens there are plenty of them. Obama is the one who deals in underhanded methods here and in the Alice Palmer campaign.

    As for your other question I think you should stop listening to Tokyo Rose, and do not sell the black community short. If there is a rational basis for not awarding the nomination to Obama then it will need to be explained with sensitivity to the black community and the wise ones will accept it if it is true. Dont let barack wilder and jj3 bamboozle you. The presidenty it too important.

  220. werehouse,

    dont fear riots, people are pissed and they arent going to take it amymore…
    whatever happens, happens…
    and i’ll tell you something,
    bitter white folks
    latinos
    native americans
    asians
    gays
    and women, are ready to bring it on, they want to be liberated from all the guilt…

    the tide has turned believe me…
    shit could get really ugly…
    but maybe thats what has to happen…

  221. you’re right wbboei,

    I just hate think that it may be the republicans who ultimately have the power to help everyone see Obama for what he really is!

    But on a positive note, the popular vote victory will repaint Hillary as Al Gore, a person who earned more votes but was denied! If that happens, will Gore do the right thing and endorse Hillary?

  222. okay,

    i posted the day after memorial day, a excerpt from an obama site, saying, that their were going to be 40 hillary sd’s, coming out publicly to switch support for obama…

    someone on here said i shouldnt post obamas crap here…
    I wanted us all to know, we are about to get screwed…
    thats when pelosi and reid are going to call for every super to make their final committment…
    they already know they have hillary’s supers in the bag…
    than according to the blog, obama will declare he has won because he has reached the magic number…

    NOWLEDGE IS POWER…
    if we had been as on top of the supers as the ‘ohf*cks’, than we might have been playing the super game like they have.
    at anyrate, thats their plan…

    thats why, we need to be fierce in our condemnation, and outrage, of the selling out of the constituents, by all these superdelegates…
    they need to be publicly exposed for selling us out…
    we should have every written or spoken comment ever made by the opposite side, about having the supers, pledge according to their voters.
    they said that in the beginning remember?

  223. Our best strategy is for Hillary to look like the winner via popular vote. I have more votes vs I have more delegates but only due to proportional undemocratic means in some cases? Hillary’s argument will be much more authentic.

  224. warehouse,

    you sure got that right!

    thats a battle she can take up, that is totally legitimate.
    and when she does, we will be in a war with them, on who can push their case in the media better, us or them…

    they have media on their side, so we will have to use jungle warfare, or what obama calls grass roots organizing, to take it to the people on our own…

  225. OKIE,

    this ones for you, i saw it from a clever blogger at noquarter…

    ‘OBLOWME’, get it? barack oblowme…

    bwahahahahaha…..

  226. this is a huge scandal down here in tx an deserves attn-a obama super may bolt to hillary bc she says she was treated bad by obama as a WOMAN. sleazy as hell of deal has been struck. im so angry.
    this is big story in the chron. note rihie has a chair challenger who is a obama super. yall need to FIND THIS SUPER ASAP AND SPEAK TO HER. SHE IS INDICATING SHE MAY FLIP TO HILLARY OVER ALL THIS CRAP! AND SHE MAY GO PUBLIC ON HO THE OBAMA CAMP HAS TREATED HER AS A WOMAN.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/5808894.html

    Brooks said she told Shank she would stay in the race.

    “I made the comment that I may need to jump over to Hillary’s side because I’m not going to be treated like a dish rag,” she said.

    I asked if she was serious.

    “I’m very serious if they keep trying to get me out of the race and I learn that Obama is behind it,” she said.

  227. texan4hillary

    It is just not Texas, Obama camp playing is same crap in SD right before the primary. As for Texas, I think he endorsed right before the TX state convention to try and pressure the remaining 200 TX state SD that have not said which way they will vote next weekend. Those 200 Sd could swing a net gain of 2 or 2 convention delegates to Hillary in Denver.

    Top S.D. Party Officials Endorse Obama

    Published: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:52 PM CDT
    RAPID CITY (AP) — Officials within the South Dakota Democratic Party disagree on whether it was appropriate for three of the four statewide party officials to endorse Barack Obama in the state’s presidential primary.

    State Party Chairman Jack Billion of Sioux Falls, National Committeeman Nick Nemec of Holabird and National Committeewoman Sharon Stroschein of Aberdeen have endorsed Obama in his race against Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    State Vice Chairwoman Cheryl Chapman of Rapid City didn’t endorse a candidate and won’t say who she supports leading up to Tuesday’s primary election.

    “I just think it is important that party officers, whether it’s at a county or state level, remain neutral in a primary process,” said Chapman, who also is the Democratic chair in Pennington County.

    Rapid City lawyer Linda Lea Viken, a former Democratic state legislator who will be South Dakota’s representative on the Rules Committee at the National Democratic Convention, said she worries about the effect such endorsements might leave.

    “I do understand the desire of the candidates to have the party officials endorse and the officials wanting to get on a candidate’s bandwagon early,” Viken said. “I just think that we want our candidates to feel they have an equal opportunity to win the primary and that the party is not against them.”

    Judy Olson Duhamel of Rapid City, a Clinton supporter, said she never endorsed candidates in a primary during her eight years as Democratic Party state chairwoman.

    “I just thought neutrality was so important in that position,” Olson Duhamel said. “But I would never, ever criticize those people who have decided otherwise.”

    http://www.yankton.net/articles/2008/05/28/news/doc483e364a8bf92550679011.txt

  228. texan4hillary

    Same thing in SD right before the primary. looks like Obama’s camp is getting worried and pulling out all stops now. As for Texas, he is trying to put pressure on the 200 state SD’s that have not said which way they will vote next weekend. Most are county chairs and lets hope they will not buckle under state leadership wrangling.

    Top S.D. Party Officials Endorse Obama

    Published: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:52 PM CDT
    RAPID CITY (AP) — Officials within the South Dakota Democratic Party disagree on whether it was appropriate for three of the four statewide party officials to endorse Barack Obama in the state’s presidential primary.

    State Party Chairman Jack Billion of Sioux Falls, National Committeeman Nick Nemec of Holabird and National Committeewoman Sharon Stroschein of Aberdeen have endorsed Obama in his race against Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    State Vice Chairwoman Cheryl Chapman of Rapid City didn’t endorse a candidate and won’t say who she supports leading up to Tuesday’s primary election.

    “I just think it is important that party officers, whether it’s at a county or state level, remain neutral in a primary process,” said Chapman, who also is the Democratic chair in Pennington County.

    Rapid City lawyer Linda Lea Viken, a former Democratic state legislator who will be South Dakota’s representative on the Rules Committee at the National Democratic Convention, said she worries about the effect such endorsements might leave.

    “I do understand the desire of the candidates to have the party officials endorse and the officials wanting to get on a candidate’s bandwagon early,” Viken said. “I just think that we want our candidates to feel they have an equal opportunity to win the primary and that the party is not against them.”

    Judy Olson Duhamel of Rapid City, a Clinton supporter, said she never endorsed candidates in a primary during her eight years as Democratic Party state chairwoman.

    “I just thought neutrality was so important in that position,” Olson Duhamel said. “But I would never, ever criticize those people who have decided otherwise.”

    http://www.yankton.net/articles/2008/05/28/news/doc483e364a8bf92550679011.txt

  229. tex,

    im posting the article here
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    Texas Democratic Party Vice Chairwoman Roy LaVerne Brooks is a superdelegate who endorsed Barack Obama in March.

    The longtime party activist from Fort Worth is also running to unseat current state party Chairman Boyd Richie.

    Imagine her surprise Tuesday when she received a disturbing phone call from a national Obama operative who is part of a group that parachuted into Texas to work on this weekend’s state party convention.

    Roy says the operative, Rudy Shank, told her that unless she drops her candidacy to unseat Richie at the state convention she will not be going to the national convention as a superdelegate.

    A deal is offered
    She said Shank politely told her that “if there was any way I could not run, it would be appreciated because they would like a convention without hurt feelings.”

    Shank told her he could make a deal with her. He said Glen Maxey, the former Austin state representative whom the Obama campaign hired as its convention director, told him that if Brooks gave up her vice chairmanship to run against Richie, she would lose her status as superdelegate if she lost.

    State chairs and vice chairs are automatically members of the Democratic National Committee, which makes them superdelegates. Brooks’ term as vice chair ends this weekend.

    A quiet rule change
    Brooks said that was news to her. About 20 years ago, then-Chairman Bob Slagle put in a rule saying that while the election for vice chair would take place at the state convention in June, the term would extend until the end of the national convention. The idea was that the vice chair should be rewarded with a national convention at the end of his or her term, not at the beginning of it.

    Houstonian Carl Davis, who served as vice chairman from 1998 to 2000, went as a delegate to the convention in Los Angeles that nominated Al Gore.

    “I remember seeing the rule in writing,” he said.

    But apparently the rule has been quietly changed in recent years.

    Slagle says he recently learned of the change, though he didn’t recall whether the rule was a written one or a “handshake agreement.”

    Under the new rule, Brooks would lose her superdelegate status if she fails to unseat Richie. But if she backs out, Richie could name her to one of three “add-on” superdelegate slots.

    He is required to nominate at least two people for each of the three seats, to be approved by the nominations committee and then ratified by the convention. Traditionally, the nominations committee approves the chairman’s first choice of delegates.

    There are ironies in the request by an Obama operative that Brooks back off the chairman’s race.

    One is that she is an African-American. The state Democratic chairman has traditionally been a white male, with an occasional white female slipping in.

    Another is that Brooks is casting herself as a “change” from the good ol’ boy system, and Obama’s campaign is all about changing the good ol’ boy system. Brooks’ chances of unseating Richie are enhanced by several thousand change-oriented newcomers who will swell the convention to about triple its normal size.

    All of this begs the question: Why would the national Obama campaign involve itself in a state race?

    Chairman Richie was not available for comment. Maxey promised to ask Shank to call me, but I didn’t hear from him.

    So I can only go with speculation. One possibility is that the Democratic establishment convinced the Obama folks that Brooks would not be a good enough chairwoman to help them if Texas should come into play. She would contend that Richie isn’t a good enough chairman to help.

    Another possibility is that a deal has been cut with Richie that could involve both his vote and the votes of the three “add-on” superdelegates.

    Do you like conspiracy theories? Thursday night, two nights after Shank made his call to Brooks, Richie announced his endorsement of Obama.

    Another possibility involves a “handshake agreement” Slagle put in place in the early 1980s, an agreement that has held ever since. It (accurately) presumed the chairman would be white, and alternates the vice chairmanship and the treasurer’s posts between blacks and Hispanics.

    “I think this is the year the vice chair is supposed to rotate back to the Mexican-Americans,” Slagle said. “If it is a Mexican-American it would be for Clinton. There might be an issue there.”

    Maybe so, but if they’re worried about losing even one superdelegate, manhandling Brooks may not help.

    Brooks said she told Shank she would stay in the race.

    “I made the comment that I may need to jump over to Hillary’s side because I’m not going to be treated like a dish rag,” she said.

    I asked if she was serious.

    “I’m very serious if they keep trying to get me out of the race and I learn that Obama is behind it,” she said.

  230. my blood boils on this one. we worked so hard for richie. state dems here are shcked-we were sure he was with the clintons. the cnv will be chaos for sure now. if this woman flips to hillary and challnges richie-which i pray- look out

  231. ****** ADMIN********************************

    is there a flop house, if someone decides at the last minute to jump on a plane and head to washington for the protest?

  232. Texas,
    With over 220 TX SD’s not saying who they will vote for next weekend, how much pressure can Richie put on them considering most of them are county chairs? Those SD’s can get Hillary a net gain of 1 or 2 delegates for Denver

  233. texan,

    its like something out of a sci fi movie.
    like DAWN OF THE DEAD, all these previously known to be democratic leaders, now becoming something we dont recognized…

    ADMIN,

    we need to start a ‘grassroots’ petition, to have speaker pelosi step down. she has misused her power as speaker, to influence and control a democratic election…
    she has not proved effective in her position as speaker, and she and the committee, have made laughing stocks of our party…

  234. no-those tx local sds are for the tx conv-some 200 plus county chairs will vote on the floor i think. most should be with hillary as she is very popular in thier rural counties.

  235. Can anyone imagine what the reaction of leaders of both parties in Washington would be if a foreign country held an election and the winner of the popular vote were not declared the winner? They would be placing sanctions left and right all over that government. If this is allowed to happen (again), Washington will have no right to say anything when a foreign country does the same thing.

  236. susan at noquarter:
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    Call it an ol’ farm girl’s intuition. But it seems to me that the reason that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are so very, very eager to get real close with Barack is that they want to milk him REAL GOOD for all of their House and Senate races, not to mention those governors and others that’ll need some money too. (See NYT: “Leaders in Congress Seek to Settle Soon on Nominee.”)

    Harry and Nancy are eyeing Obama’s donors and they think they’ve got themselves a young, fat, and healthy cash cow.

    Thing is, in the general election, Obama’s gonna have to spend money on HIMSELF ALONE like there’s no tomorrow.

    Obama spent $36 million in April, exceeding his monthly fundraising for the first time. He and Clinton competed vigorously in Pennsylvania, where he substantially outspent her. He also spent heavily during April in Indiana and North Carolina, which held their primaries on May 6. Obama lost Indiana narrowly and won in North Carolina. (A.P.)

    And that cow’s teats are gonna get plenty sore from being squeezed the more and more that John McCain surges ahead in the polls as the fall rolls along, and all that money for those congressional races that Harry and Nancy have their eyes on is gonna dry up.

    On the other hand, Hillary’s donors are just getting started in raising money for her.

    Hillary’s problem — despite the genius Jonathan Alter’s opining back in February that she’d run out of funding resources because her few supporteres had maxed out — wasn’t that she had too few donors, it was that her millions of supporters just didn’t realize how much they needed to pitch in for her. Then the money began pouring in, from people donating $5-25 per month — even to that lovely boy who sold his bicycle to help her campaign.

    And they are ready, willing, and ABLE to donate in huge sums — just as they did in April.

    IN FACT: I’d say that Hillary’s supporters are ten times more fired up to give money at this point than ever before!

    I’ve never been around such a motivated, energized group of people EVER!

    (My hunch entirely.)

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    44 Comments » Comment by avwrobel | 2008-05-29 23:14:58

    That, and also my idea that when Harry and Nancy come back after Nov elections with larger majorities they are not going to want a strong Democrat like Hillary to deal with as president; hell no! They want Obambi to push around. And they’re in the grip of the MSM pushing Obambi.

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    Comment by usedmeat | 2008-05-29 23:18:59

    Harry and Nancy push any body around? Shirley, you jest.

    Reply to this comment
    Comment by Ann | 2008-05-30 00:57:31

    yeah, it would take a totally incompetent and inexperienced neophyte to make pelosi and reid feel powerful. Hopefully we will all work very hard to make sure that obambi doesn’t get anywhere near the wh. thank god hillary is as tough as she is…she can stand up to reid, dean and pelosi like no other democrat.

    Is it just me or is Nancy Pelosi stating to look more and more like Katherine Harris ?

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    Comment by Seth Warren | 2008-05-29 23:49:30

    Like Obama looks more and more like George W. Bush? Yeah, I’m seeing it too.

  237. its literally makes u sick. i swear every day we get a new blow. no one can be counted on.

  238. tex,

    yes but we carry on, and here’s the deal:
    we want hillary to go and not stop, so actually,
    WE seem to be ‘in it to win it’…
    no matter who betrays us, no matter how many times they do, we are
    ‘jazzed’ and we keep on fighting, and maybe we are forcing hillary to stay in the race.

    sick or not, WE MEAN TO SEE IT THROUGH, WE EVEN MEAN TO FLIP TO MCCAIN, IF ALL ELSE FAILS, thats amazing.

  239. It really boils all down to something very simple. There will soon be an informal sampling of the SDs as to their preferences. This can go either way. These numbers will be added to the pledged delegates including whatever comes out of this weekends meeting (if anything) concerning FL/MI. The sum of all these will give a “projected winner.” Mind you it will not be official.

    But the media and most of the Party will accept it as final. If it goes to Hillary, expect riots and other forms of (typical male) violence to put pressure on the delegates to change their minds. But since the counting will be done in secret and by Obama supporters (Dean/Pelosi etc.) don’t expect a fair accounting.

    If Obama is declared the winner, the Party will attempt to get Hillary to accept the decision in order to not lose her supporters to McCain. They will use both carrots and sticks. But if she feels the entire process was rigged (it was of course), if Bill still wants to fight, and if we are still with her, she may choose to take it directly to the delegates in Denver. At Denver there will be an open and transparent vote of all the delegates. This is the best. If we lose fair and square, well that is just how these things go. Conversely, if the decision is made secretly behind closed doors by open Obama supporters like Dean and Pelosi before Denver, it will be viewed as an illegitimate nomination and will be hard for her supporters to swallow. No matter what Hillary says at that point, many will defect to McCain to wait four more years.

    The moral of the story is: it is in everybody’s interest, including the Party and the eventual winner, to take this to Denver for a fair and open vote.

  240. I went to the Count the vote rally for Hillary in Hollywood. Lets get out there and show our support. She needs us now! There are more scheduled. If you can make it please do.

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