Voting For Barack Obama, Part II

In 2004 Democrats supporting John Edwards, Wes Clark and even Howard Dean – the “Deaniacs” – supported John Kerry at the end of the nomination process. All Democrats fell immediately into line. There was Democratic Party unity.

The 2004 primary was a relatively respectful contest. There was some degree of animosity between the Kerry and Dean campaigns. The ugliest controversy during the primary was when Robert Gibbs (now with the Obama campaign) helped air an advertisement morphing Howard Dean’s face with the face of Osama Bin Laden. The ad also attacked Dean’s lack of experience.

But early in the 2004 campaign season it became clear that John Kerry (who in late 2006 was forced to mortgage his house in order to finance his flagging campaign) would be the nominee and even the formerly hostile “Deaniacs” embraced the Kerry campaign.

In 2004 Big Media was not able to force feed their candidate of choice to Democrats. Big Media beat up on all Democrats and was a bit tougher on Howard Dean. But, Big Media was not able to control the process and Big Media did not lead an assault on one particular candidate. In 2004 Democratic? Party leaders did not join Big Media in an assault on one candidate, her supporters, and voters in states that would vote for her.

In 2004 there was Democratic Party unity. In 2004, Democrats recognized 50 states. In 2004 there was no Obama to race bait. In 2004 there was an all male candidate field.

In 2008 there will be no Democratic? Party unity. Democratic leaders have driven their women constituents off a bridge and left them there to drown.

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Recently Marie Cocco published a short list of some of the overt misogyny. But as ugly as the misogyny, has been the silence of Democratic leaders watching a woman and all women being drowned:

I won’t miss reading another treatise by a man or woman, of the left or right, who says that sexism has had not even a teeny-weeny bit of influence on the course of the Democratic campaign. To hint that sexism might possibly have had a minimal role is to play that risible “gender card.”

Most of all, I will not miss the silence.

I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven’t publicly uttered a word of outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.

Would the silence prevail if Obama’s likeness were put on a tap-dancing doll that was sold at airports? Would the media figures who dole out precious face time to these politicians be such pals if they’d compared Obama with a character in a blaxploitation film? And how would crude references to Obama’s sex organs play?

In 2007 and 2008 there has not been one single debate to discuss issues of paramount importance to women. There was 1 forum to discuss gay issues. There were debates geared to Latinos. There were many many debates and fora to discuss issues of concern to African-Americans. In one single day in Iowa there were 2 events geared to the African-American population.

But not one debate was ever held this entire election cycle to discuss issues specifically of concern to women. Not one debate was ever held this entire election cycle to discuss issues from the perspective of women. Not one debate.

Women are the workers in the Democratic Party. Women are the ones who volunteer and make calls and answer mail and send out mail and organize the vans and do the work that keeps the Democratic? Party running. Yet not one debate was considered in forethought or afterthought to ask women what they thought and to ask women what they needed.

The vile Ralph Nader used to denigrate gay and women issues as “gonadal politics”. It appears the Democratic? Party has become a gonadal party – women only needed in the back of the bus, in the kitchen – working – but no place at the table.

Obama has been a lead gang-banger in the misogyny parade:

Meanwhile, Obama had to apologize for his “sweetie” crack. But this was not an isolated incident. Remember, this was the candidate who used phrases like “when the claws come out” and “when she’s feeling down periodically she launches attacks” in reference to his opponent. When language like this is part of the vocabulary of a candidate (one who is so exquisitely articulate), it is worth asking if there is something going on here.

Something is going on. The women of ancient Greece forced peace on the peloponnese by withholding sex. Women in 2008 will force respect, not by whining, but by a demonstrable show of force and strength.

Women in 2008 will not withhold sex. Women in 2008 will withhold votes.

No whining. No votes.

Part III, tomorrow.

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262 thoughts on “Voting For Barack Obama, Part II

  1. Great line, Admin. I hope someone high profile says it on TV. One of the greatest things about the Democratic divide is I no longer have to defend scum like Kennedy. His family’s self-worship makes me gag. He seems to forget he is one generation removed from bootlegging and his family’s treatment of women – wife, mistress, daughter, or waitress in a bar – has been nothing short of disgusting.

  2. will there ever be any new superdelegates going for Hillary any time now? I mean Hillary won West Virginia by 41 points and still nothing but one from Tenn

  3. While I was reading Part4 of the Curtain today, one thing stuck in my mind is that Rezko and blogjevich controlled the hiring completely. Apparently there was one woman who wanted a job and Rezko told her congrats on her new job assignment, which was to go home. How crappy was that, wonder if he would have told that to a man?
    What is evident throughout the Curtain Series is the level of corruption is astounding. Everytime someone got a job, Blogjevich and Obama got a campaign donation.

  4. a close friend and Hillary supporter sent this to me, it may not apply directly to us here, but it perhaps should remind women why it is important that we vote.
    I was particularly interested in the HBO’s new movie ‘Iron Jawed Angels’ which I’d like to see

    **************
    This is the story of our Grandmothers, and Great-grandmothers, as they
    lived only 90 years ago. It was not until 1920 that women were granted
    the right to go to the polls and vote.

    The women were innocent and defenseless. And by the end of the night,
    they were barely alive. Forty prison guards wielding clubs and their
    warden’s blessing went on a rampage against the 33 women wrongly
    convicted of ‘obstructing sidewalk traffic.’

    They beat Lucy Burn, chained her hands to the cell bars above her head
    and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping for air. They
    hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her head against an iron bed
    and knocked her out cold. Her cellmate, Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was
    dead and suffered a heart attack. Additional affidavits describe the
    guards grabbing, dragging, beating, choking, slamming, pinching,
    twisting and kicking the women.

    Thus unfolded the ‘Night of Terror’ on Nov. 15, 1917, when the warden
    at the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered his guards to teach a
    lesson to the suffragists imprisoned there because they dared to picket
    Woodrow Wilson’s White House for the right to vote.

    For weeks, the women’s only water came from an open pail. Their
    food–all of it colorless slop–was infested with worms. When one of
    the leaders, Alice Paul, embarked on a hunger strike, they tied her to a
    chair, forced a tube down her throat and poured liquid into her until
    she vomited. She was tortured like this for weeks until word was
    smuggled out to the press.

    So, refresh my memory. Some women won’t vote this year because–why,
    exactly? We have carpool duties? We have to get to work? Our vote
    doesn’t matter? It’s raining?

    Last week, I went to a sparsely attended screening of HBO’s new movie
    ‘Iron Jawed Angels.’ It is a graphic depiction of the battle these women
    waged so that I could pull the curtain at the polling booth and have my
    say. I am ashamed to say I needed the reminder.

    All these years later, voter registration is still my passion. But the
    actual act of voting had become less personal for me, more rote.
    Frankly, voting often felt more like an obligation than a privilege.
    Sometimes it was inconvenient.

    My friend Wendy, who is my age and studied women’s history, saw the HBO
    movie, too. When she stopped by my desk to talk about it, she looked
    angry. She was–with herself. ‘One thought kept coming back to me as I
    watched that movie,’ she said. ‘What would those women think of the way
    I use–or don’t use–my right to vote? All of us take it for granted
    now, not just younger women, but those of us who did seek to learn.’ The
    right to vote, she said, had become valuable to her ‘all over again.’

    HBO released the movie on video and DVD. I wish all history, social
    studies and government teachers would include the movie in their
    curriculum. I want it shown on Bunco night, too, and anywhere else
    women gather. I realize this isn’t our usual idea of socializing, but
    we are not voting in the numbers that we should be, and I think a little
    shock therapy is in order.

    It is jarring to watch Woodrow Wilson and his cronies try to persuade a
    psychiatrist to declare Alice Paul insane so that she could be
    permanently institutionalized. And it is inspiring to watch the doctor
    refuse. Alice Paul was strong, he said, and brave. That didn’t make
    her crazy.

    The doctor admonished the men: ‘Courage in women is often mistaken for
    insanity.’

  5. When talking John Kerry you have “flip-flop” in your mind.. Now whenever you talk about BHO, you will think about “out of touch and not ready to lead”.

  6. New post!

    Hope everyone is starting off a great new weekend!

    Go Hillary! Go Hillfans! We can do it!

  7. Its time Obama comes out with his “I am not a crook speech”, maybe he could get some ideas off Nixon’s speech! LOL!

  8. Debbie, I am glad you posted that I hadn’t realized all that. I am sure the men of this world today would like nothing more that to chain Hillary up and make everyone believe she is insane. Oh, wait a minute, haven’t they been saying that about her for now over 16 years. The only difference now and 1917 they don’t have the testicular fortitude to put on the cuffs and lead her off to prison, but the republicans sure tried in the 90’s. They were trying to make sure today would never happen,that she would never run for President . Who would have thought the DNC would help them though. 🙁

  9. McLaughlin did an entire segment on Hillary being more electable than Bambi.

    He said that the media is giving short shrift to her massive landslide in WV; that for 92 years no Democrat has won the White House without winning WV; that more than half of the voters said they would be disappointed if Bambi is the nominee; that there was major erosion in Bambi’s core voter coalition with Hillary winning the majority of those under 30, a majority of the college-educated, and the majority of affluent voters; and that the media’s presentation of the pledged delegate count overstates Bambi’s lead.

    Pat Buchanan said Hillary will finish with more of the popular vote than Bambi, and that in 2000, all the Democrats said forget the arcane rules, what matters is who got the more votes, and that Bambi will now be in the position to have to argue just the opposite, nevermind who got the most votes, let’s apply these arcane rules.

    Eleanor Clift and Clarence Page were making one lame excuse after another for Bambi. They were PATHETIC.

  10. He is certainly out of touch and not ready to lead women.

    The most important segment is the voters. Our goal is for Senator Clinton to have the popular vote. The Delegates are not the important focus.

    In the last segment you talked about how early on they said that the popular vote should lead them, then it stop. I remember the radio programs going hot and heavy on that also, before I turned them off. It is amazing to me how brain washed this has been.

    I am extremely proud of WV and the states that have voted their conscience. They are proving to be the smart leaders of this election, and not sheep. Within my party here in NM I have seen many sheep within the working party. It is the voting people that have shown the courage. I see many just sit there and watch, and then join the band wagon. The voting people have not done this.

    Next are the strength of women, as they now understand they must take a stand. I am watching with pride the PAC and Woman Count emerging.

    This will take all of us who vote, but unfortunately the leadership and sheep in the party will stand at the gate and try to force us to do what they want us to do.

    It is time to tell them who they work for.

  11. Debbie: Thank you for posting that article. I saw it a few weeks ago, and it reminded me that our right to vote is very precious.

  12. Well said, Admin. Women hold this entire nation together.

    Women (majority) are the teachers in the schools. Women (majority) keep the hospitals running. Hillary Rodham Clinton addresses these two professions repeatedly. While in Nevada, she followed a nurse during a shift, shared an evening meal with the single nurse and her two children later on that night. She commented to the children about how she wasn’t there for the entire 12-hour shift, but that SHE couldn’t keep up. This is HRC we’re talking.

    Both workplaces are non-friendly to women. Teachers are paid in a deplorable and demeaning fashion, are subjected to outlandish non-funded No Child Left Behind, and the dropout rate and lack of discipline in public schools is a national disgrace. Keep up with China and India with this public school farce? Are you kidding? What’s more important than teaching our young people REAL subject matter that will teach them how to think? What’s more tragic than losing generation after generation if not the Life and Death of ideas and creativity? There is no teacher shortage. Just teachers who refuse to be degraded with impossible working conditions and leave the profession.

    And although nurses may have slightly higher wages, they are carrying dangerous patient loads like never before. Patients are at such high risk because of staffing ratios, as the nurse performs her duties with NO room for error, while also doing the work of laid-off nurse assistants, laid-off ward clerks, and social workers. This is YOUR family and YOUR future hospital admission. What’s more important than the Life and Death of people? There is no nursing shortage. Just burned-out nurses who can’t hold up to the mental, emotional and physical toll and leave the profession.

    Face it. We are the Rodney Dangerfields of the entire United States economy.

    Yes, I am a public school teacher. World Geography. Now if that isn’t a relevant subject in this present day and age, I don’t know what is. Physical and cultural geography as well as CURRENT EVENTS. Whoa!

    Yes, I am a registered nurse. Cardiac critical care. Ongoing emergency situations. Breakthroughs abound, but who has time to attend seminars when the hospitals can’t spare you from the floor?

    I have worked in these professions singulary and now simultaneouly, as the shrinking dollar is in a freefall.

    My mission has always been to combine these two professions in retirement and join the Peace Corps. It still is. But, since that is still years away, I am in “basic training” within the political arena. Right now, I feel that my country is in a crisis of its own.

    The robotic stares of children in class, impoverished, yet not inspired easily into doing the work that you and I did with pride. Cultural breakdown and the fifteen-second (not minute) attention span. Education in this country is in free-fall and crisis to the inth degree.

    The gravely ill patient writhing in pain waiting on medication with family members helpless as the nurse reponds to a Code Blue across the hall. Corporate greed AND rising healthcare costs due to the uninsured renders heartache and seething anger to the inth degree.

    So, I silently launch my mini-peace corps. The need to wrangle democracy from the clutches of tyrannical takeover. Not in the third-world countries we study in class. In our own giant “Democratic” coup takeover right here on American soil. Not just by the Republicans this time. Now we are REALLY in the trenches – make no mistake about it – against our own Democratic Party. We are embroiled in the biggest wrestling match of our lives.

    We can’t fall for the Roe v Wade threat, or the 100-year war threat.

    Women who do not support women deserve a special place in hell, to paraphrase Madeleine Albright.

    But………..more and more women are finding their strength.

    It’s about time.

    We should all find a table to jump on with a Hillary sign, in glowing and growing “Norma Rae” fashion – and TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY FOR CHILDREN AND THE SICK.

    If not us women, then who?

  13. http://www.electionjournal.org/

    Is there anyone out there from Kentucky?
    I just read an article at the Election Journal and they need help at a polling place in Kentucky where they are using new machines for the first time. They are afraid
    they are going to have a disaster. (Daviess County)

    I hope Hill’s people are watching the polls. You know how BO’s people are.

  14. curiosity, great post! All the women that won’t stand up for women need to be given that movie! Maybe then, they will see what are foremothers did for us!

  15. Does anyone else think this epic battle to get our first female president, is as big a battle as it was to get the right to vote? I do, there are more of us now and easier ways to travel. Lord have mercy on the DNC this summer, they have awoken a sleeping giant!

  16. WOW…….where do i begin! LOL

    Universal…….EXCELLENT POST!!!

    ADMIN… another fabulous post!

    Hallow……happy to help and so glad you’re back! 😀

    Linfare….I rec’d your diary and MDD …always do 😀
    Confloyd….your last post is the bulls eye!
    This forum is awesome!!! I hate being away from home i miss so much!!! LOL

  17. admin, ironically many of hillary’s harshest critics are women. i complained i think last year about the lack of a women’s forum or debate. be we all know wht that kind of forum did not happen. hillary would have DOMINATED that debate for reasons we all know. there was no way big media or the dnc would allow that to happen.

  18. oh puleeeze don’t tell me i am here alone tonight!!!

    after I anxiously was waiting to get done with the kids at the “free night” at the local amusement park , i mean how many times do you have to ride the roller coaster anyways?! LOL…..I couldn’t wait to get back
    to my laptop and all of you…….i finally got done reading all the posts…..whew!!!

    actually……sun was out, it was a warm night and the park {arnolds park,ia) is right on the shores of Lake Okoboji, Ia and it’s beautiful!…..so i don’t complain too loudly 😀

    but i fear iam here with only my own echoe’s LOL!

  19. linfar,

    I seem to be banned from mydd, at least as of yesterday. too busy to try them again.

    I feel it’s past the time for trying ot reason with them, and now the time for showing them how many of us there are who will never vote for Obama and may go to McCain.

    I’d like to see some ‘contingency’ funds: donations collected now and paid out in Sept to Hillary if she’s the nominee, otherwise to McCain. That should show Dean etc that we’re serious, while there is still time for the Dems to choose the RIGHT candidate.

    Come over to hillbill’s new ‘diary’ place.
    h t t p : / / clintondems.com/

  20. Seems like in even 4 years as US Senator, Obama would have found out that a lot of professional (and white?) women don’t like to be called ‘sweetie’ in a professional context.

    Maybe he’s all stressed out and forgetting who he is talking to, or reverting to some other dialect.

  21. Something that jumped out at me today about HRC’s conference call was when she said she had become impervious to a lot of the criticism thrown at her by the media/Obama camp. I think that explains why neither she herself or her team has really effectively pushed back on many of the lies/propaganda of the MSM and many BO surrogates. But I wish they’d realize many of her supporters get upset by the things said about her even if it no longer affects Hill. Many of us realize how broken the traditional media has become and tune out the biased reporting. But not everyone does. If HRC is the nominee the media will be just as biased in favor of McCain as they have been of Obama. So its really important to have her people out there in the newspapers & on the networks making her case.

  22. Best part of Hill’s conference call;

    “Obviously I believe somehow that we’re going to end up with this nomination. I just know it’s the right thing.”

  23. I am doing, what Hillary said, “Turn off the television. Read a book.” Well, I’m not watching the news, and I am not reading a book, but I spend my time on supportive sites. My blood pressure is lower.

  24. i’m just now listening to that conference call

    she is amazing!

    i’ll jump in here more when its done 😀

  25. Voting is very important to me. My sisters long ago gave to me the right to vote, and I would not hand that away to anyone. I will vote.

    I may seek a 3rd party candidate.

    I am too strong to let a messy election cycle disenfranchise me.

  26. hallow, if all the Hillary democrats stay strong, Hill will be the nominee. it’s our choice, not theirs.

  27. Tomorrow one of my best friends and I will drive 2 hrs together to a pre-convention meeting. One Hillary supporter and one Obama supporter in the car for 2 hrs up and 2 hrs back. So I am off to bed so I will not be too tired and short tempered! I will catch up Saturday evening! Wish me luck! I did ask my co worker that an Obamamaniac if it bothered him that Hamas had endorsed his candidate. He said “yes” although he stammered around a bit!

  28. Very telling map, MJ. Lousy BO-spun article, with premises like this one;

    “Obama is unlikely to win the heart of Appalachia in the general election, but he may not need to if he can make up ground on its northern frontier. If he wins New York and Pennsylvania (he lost both in the primaries) and flip-flopping Ohio (another primary loss) he will be in good position.”

    So he’s ‘unlikely’ to win mountainous areas, but IF he wins states where he LOST he’s got a shot. If not, JohnMcCain’s president.

    Glad they clarified that.

  29. wow……what a great conference call!!

    she is so genuine…….how could some completely not see that??

    this woman will not vote for obama….I will work hard to make Hillary44…..and if that should not come to pass
    i will promise you all that i will work as hard to bring votes to mcCain instead!

    NO OBAMA!!

  30. Oh, and I almost forgot this gem;

    “So, when she stops casting the nomination as a standoff between the Dukes of Hazzard and the Huxtables and accepts the outcome as a fait accompli, the party can unite, and there will be a better sense as to which states are in play.”

    We’re just supposed to ‘accept’ this and all will be well w/the world.

    RIGHT!

  31. “So, when she stops casting the nomination as a standoff between the Dukes of Hazzard and the Huxtables and accepts the outcome as a fait accompli, the party can unite, and there will be a better sense as to which states are in play.”

    Fucking sexist liberal elitist, white liberal guilt loving pigs.

    Again, BO has no more claim to the nomination than Hill, and I would argue less of one, despite his good run in February primarily through the caucuses.

  32. Here’s a question that I know a lot of people here don’t want to answer:
    Why is McCain better than a 3rd party candidate?

    One vote to a 3rd party candidate makes a much greater increase for that candidate than a vote to McCain (e.g. 1 vote for a candidate who gets 1,000 votes increases that person’s votes by 0.1%, but one extra vote for McCain may be an increase of, say, 0.000002%). A 3rd party candidate may be selected who focuses on women’s rights, gay rights, anti-war, etc.

    It seems like people only want to go off to McCain because they think he’s going to win. But, if you’re principled, you yourself don’t need your ego stroked by always being on the “winning” team.

  33. Hallow, how about we stop accepting BO’s premise that as he lags to the finish line he deserves the nomination? I fully expect Hill to be our next nominee.

  34. mj – I never said anything of the sort.

    I want her to be our nominee more than anything. And I am fighting like hell for her.

  35. The Dukes of Hazzard? Hillary would NEVER stereotype her voters that way. It’s the media that’s painting the white Appalachian working class with that particular brush.

    As for the Huxtables, the Cosby Show wasn’t political or racial. Cliff and Claire could have been Republicans for all we know. Or maybe they are representative of that 7 percent of African Americans who support Hillary.

    And I can only imagine what Archie Bunker would have to say about all this! TV just isn’t that brave nowadays.

  36. Well, then stop talking about voting third party or McCain.

    M y friend in OR says call, call, call, by the way.

    Yes, Jen, the spin is insulting. The graphic illuminating.

  37. I just checked my email and lo and behold, I received yet another request for $$$$ from the Democrats. I replied with yet another “NO DONATIONS WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!” You’d think these fools would have figured it out by now.

  38. hollow, my wife will initially was going to vote mccain if not hillary but she changed as soon as she read his very conservative record. that said it is a personal choice and view. my wife will not vote at all at this time. my wife does not have 20 years of left of center democratic voting like me. i voted gop only twice(1994 and 1998) for gop gov. john rowland-rep-ct. in 2002 i got tired of his ass and supported dem bill curry-dem-ct. i never voted gop for national office presidential or congress. my wife voted for john kerry in 2004, her very first vote at age 27.

  39. hallow Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 1:43 am
    Unless…I phonebanked in the middle of the night and claimed I was on the BO team?

    Bwahahaha. That was funny.

  40. terrondt – Well, hopefully she’d come to the polls to vote for other things on the ballot (local elections, initiatives), no matter what? I put a very high value on going to the polls.

  41. Going to sleep now. Have an eventful night and Saturday morning, all. Good dreams (maybe of Hillary).

  42. PHONEBANKER: I am calling on behalf of the Barack Obama campaign. He will bring the kind of chaaaaaaange that America is hoping for!

    VOTER: Do you have any idea what time it is?

    PHONEBANKER: Obama supporters are hip. That’s why we are awake at this hour! It’s like a party down here. We’re eating waffles and drinking Kool-Aid and talking about change. You should come on board and join us. Oh, and we’ve got arugula, too!

    VOTER: Why are you people bothering me at this hour? Don’t you know I have to get up and go to work in the morning?

    PHONEBANKER: You people???? YOU PEOPLE????? Do you have any idea how racist that statement is????

    VOTER: Huh?

    PHONEBANKER: Look, you have a choice. You can cling to your guns and your religion, or you can vote for Obama and hope for CHANGE!!!!!

    VOTER (yawns): I think I’m gonna change my phone number. (Hangs up).

  43. MJ,
    “Again, BO has no more claim to the nomination than Hill, and I would argue less of one”

    You wouldn’t have to argue w/me, I’m with ya all the way!

    I think there’s now very little question that on the metrics that matter, popular/electoral vote, down-ticket effect – and who can actually freakin’ beat the republicans – who the nominee must be.
    A full airing of the facts would sure help.

    Jen,
    The Huxtables regularly attended Trinity Baptist Church.

  44. dija,

    About the ‘idle threat’ thing, I’d like to see a bunch of ‘contingency’ donation funds where we could donat now and in September the money would go to Hillary if she is the nominee and to McCain if Obama is the nominee.

    THAT should show them we’re serious!

  45. May 13, 2008
    Race Cards and Speech Codes
    By Patrick Buchanan

    “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

    So said Bill Clinton in New Hampshire of Obama’s claim to have been a constant opponent of the war. Clinton cited Obama’s voting record, which was the same as Hillary’s in his early Senate years.

    Yet, for this, the ex-president, designated by Toni Morrison as “our first black president,” was charged with playing the race card.

    Clinton spent days explaining the “fairy tale” remark.

    Came then the morning of the South Carolina primary, where Barack was rolling up a smashing victory. Bill volunteered: “Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, twice, in ’84 and ’88. And he ran a good campaign, and Sen. Obama’s running a good campaign.”

    That broke it. Bill Clinton was openly “playing the race card.”

    Now, undoubtedly, Clinton was trying to belittle, to diminish the importance of the South Carolina vote for Obama. But why is it racist to say what Clinton was implying: That, in a Southern state where a huge share of the Democratic vote is African-American, a strong black presidential candidate can be expected to do well?

    Political history proves this. What is racist about saying it?

    Aware of the truism, every political analyst was looking closely at the racial breakdown of the South Carolina vote.

    Last week came Hillary’s turn. After her victory in Indiana and loss in North Carolina, which pundits said rang down the curtain on her presidential bid, she advanced an argument candidates have used since primary elections began. “I can win — and my opponent can’t.”

    The argument was made against Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan.

    In an interview with USA TODAY, Hillary argued that the coalition she has put together would be stronger against John McCain than the coalition Barack has cobbled together.

    She began by relating an AP article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

    “There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Hillary. “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on.”

    This shot Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post into low orbit.

    “As a rationale for why Democratic Party super-delegates should pick her over Obama, it’s a slap in the face to the party’s most loyal constituency — African Americans — and a repudiation of principles the party claims to stand for. Here’s what she’s really saying to party leaders: There’s no way that white people are going to vote for the black guy. Come November, you’ll be sorry …

    “Clinton implies but doesn’t quite come out and say … that Obama is black — and that white people who are not wealthy are irredeemably racist.”

    But Hillary was saying no such thing. Describing her coalition, she was implying that Obama’s coalition — a George McGovern-Jesse Jackson combine embracing 90 percent of African-Americans, plus liberals, students and cause people — has less chance of beating McCain than does she and her more Middle American coalition.

    Democrats, not liberal Democrats, are the swing votes who decide presidential races. Here Hillary beats Obama three to two or two to one, North and South.

    Has she no right to make this argument? Can Brother Robinson explain exactly how Hillary can describe her Ohio-Pennsylvania coalition without using the dread word “white”?

    Some of the reaction to the Clintons, whose once-universal support among African-Americans has crashed, is due to the immense stake black Americans have come to invest in the Obama candidacy. But some of this is something else, something more sinister.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton are not playing a race card. Rather, the liberal media and some black journalists with sentimental, emotional or ideological investments in Obama are playing the intimidation card.

    They are setting limits around what may and may not be said about Obama. They are seeking to censor robust adversarial speech where Barack is concerned, by branding as racists “playing the race card” any who make Barack run the same paces as anyone else.

    The Clintons are today victims of a double standard that has long been employed against conservatives.

    Even African-Americans critical of Obama are feeling the lash. In Saturday’s Washington Post article, “Black Community Is Increasingly Protective of Obama,” reporter Darryl Fears writes, “Standing in the path of Obama’s campaign has been dangerous” for prominent blacks.

    Bill and Hillary have lost luster and sustained damage to their reputations because, in the Democrats’ universe, such smears stick. The question for Republicans is whether they will let themselves be intimidated, as they too often are, from using legitimate political weapons to defend what they still have.

    It is thus a sign of trouble ahead that John McCain declared the Rev. Wright off limits and berated the North Carolina GOP for bringing him up. Let your adversaries circumscribe the content of your campaign, and you usually end up losing your campaign.

    Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.

  46. No, terrondt, I am not serious about that call. I wouldn’t want anybody to do that for real. For one thing, if you got a Bot on the other end instead of a regular voter, the Bot would get mad once he/she found out that there really isn’t 3 AM Kool-Aid party going on.

  47. The article posted above is another example that conservatives right now are fairer than our own party! In a way its sad!

  48. Hallow,
    It seems like people only want to go off to McCain because they think he’s going to win. But, if you’re principled, you yourself don’t need your ego stroked by always being on the “winning” team.

    The point is, that a vote for a third party only hurts Obama by one vote. A vote for McCain hurts Obama by two votes, because McCain may actually beat Obama.

  49. # 1950democrat Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 2:09 am

    dija,

    About the ‘idle threat’ thing, I’d like to see a bunch of ‘contingency’ donation funds where we could donat now and in September the money would go to Hillary if she is the nominee and to McCain if Obama is the nominee.

    THAT should show them we’re serious!
    ****************************************
    AGREED!!!! 😀

  50. I’m glad y’all enjoyed my 2 AM attempt at playwrighting. (PlayWRIGHTing??? Eek!!!) Now I am off to bed.

    Warehouse, that article you just posted is spot on. I never dreamed I would one day agree with Pat Buchanan about anything. Politics makes strange bedfellows. But even though I am going to bed now, I am not going to bed with Pat Buchanan.

    Yes, I always get punchy like this when I’m on the Internet this late.

    Goodnight!

  51. Thank you Jen! It seems right now conservatives are the only ones not afraid to articulate Hillary’s position without fearing being called a racist!

  52. “I never dreamed I would one day agree with Pat Buchanan about anything. Politics makes strange bedfellows.”

    here, here…..

  53. C’mon, Blue Democrat. You know fully well the proper expression is “Hear! Hear!”

    So what. I had to say that just for fun.

  54. I’m very happy to see women getting fighting mad and jumping on this misogynist mess with a vengeance. I’m happy to see them taking on the DNC and some are hitting the MSM. I just hope it isn’t too little too late. Well, maybe it’s late but it certainly isn’t too late.

  55. I think that we, Hillary supporters have always held a strong belief that in the end, truth and competence will prevail. This is what kept most of us from expressing our disgust over the race-baiting and misogyny in this primary season more concretely. Most of us have an underlying belief that the DNC leadership, despite it’s shilling for Obama will, in the end, be fair.

    But the events of this week (NARAL endorsement, Edwards endorsement, etc.) has confirmed the worst fears of most of us – The DNC party elites are going to crown Obama regardless of the results of the primaries. And this has forced many of Hillary’s grassroot supporters into action.

    I have been lurking not only here but also in other places on the net where fellow Hillary supporters congregate and I am feeling a sense of finality in the decision to abandon support of the DNC. I think it would be impossible ( not just hard ) for the DNC to get back the support of Hillary’s coalition if Hillary is denied the presidential nomination.

  56. “Hear! Hear!”, undoubtedly.

    Goes to shows my weariness. News blackout of Hill is dulling my senses. Bitches.

  57. djia Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 2:17 am

    # 1950democrat Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 2:09 am

    dija,

    About the ‘idle threat’ thing, I’d like to see a bunch of ‘contingency’ donation funds where we could donat now and in September the money would go to Hillary if she is the nominee and to McCain if Obama is the nominee.

    THAT should show them we’re serious!
    ****************************************
    AGREED!!!!

    I wonder if we could individually do that with US Savings Bonds or something. I know you can buy a bond in the name of a child as a gift. I wonder if you can put a contingency on that.

  58. ugh im so tired of this. rep giffords hasnt declared-house freshman but now she has 9 grand from obama. we must contact her asap. when will obama get called out on this crap?

    Hey everyone can you take a minute to send an arizona superdelegate an email. here is the link:

    http://www.giffords.house.gov/contact/email/

    she is a congresswomen whose district went Clinton in the primaries but she remains undeclared. which might not be a bad thing. but here is the catch, I have been watching AZ on sourcewatch.com and two weeks ago she had recieved $5000 from BHO and now she is $9,000. I have sent letters and emails already. It would be great if we can get some emails to her showing our support for Hillary.

  59. I posted on DU yesterday, all the comparisons about the Nebraska, Texas and WA primaries and caucuses showing exactly how caucuses were just great big cheats and they went ballistic.

    I have never seen such rude people in my life, I am sure, they are all Obama staffers over there now, its not even worth going too.

  60. I just want to put in a plug for everyone who hasn’t been over to the new site yet to please go over and sign up and start a new diary or add comments over at:

    http://www.clintondems.com

    If you have any supporting organizations or information, POST IT!

    Thanks, and let’s take back OUR PARTY!!!

  61. love this line from that detroit free press article…

    “Sweetie” puts a strong woman down. It diminishes her to a doughnut.

  62. hollow,

    I agree with you 100%. If the the Dem party is foolish enough not to pick Hillary as the nominee, and if Hillary would not run as an independent candidate, a third party independent woman could be drafted that could siphon off votes from both parties. May be some one like “Dianne Feinstein” I am just throwing in the name as an example. It could even be a very moderate Republican woman who is pro choice, for gay rights and moderate domestic agenda, tough on crime, tough as nails on foreign policy.

  63. Go to Taylor Marsh and listen to the Hillary Audio on a town meeting in OR.It was a work of art by the most informed and brave woman on this earth.We cannot let this National Treasure ,be treated as she has been by just about all the MSM that money can buy.They and their hired character assasins along with AA leadership,have no shame,no character of their own.Do not let this happen America.The results if we fail,willbe a disaster for us and the world”OH WHAT FOOLS THESE MORTALS BE”.Old quote by WS that will last thru time .If we survive the consequences. GO HILLARY

    BY ABM90

  64. I love that “What’s right” Ad of our campaign. i am glad the washington media got what it deserved!

  65. A vote for a third party would be a vote for BHO (if the nominee) in November. Plain and simple, fallow and clintondem99. Hillary has stated she will not run as third party. So unless your goal is BHO……..

  66. The Democratic Leadership is blind to the realities of the current situtation and the long term damage they are doing not only to the party but to the country. Meanwhile the media is so partisan that it is blind and unable to understand what is happening right before their eyes.

    A friend of mine is one of the great writers in this generation, a member of the Tribe of Chippewa Indians, and someone with keen political insight. Yesterday after weeks of deliberation we sent a letter to the sds which reflects her thinking as well as mine. It sets forth a new line of argument which you may add to your repertoire as well.

    Dear-

    None of us would be active Democrats if we didn’t want our candidates to win the Presidency, the Senate and the House of Representatives. Senator Obama has inspired in many the hopes and dreams that with a “new” kind of politician at the helm, this country can heal our past and create a wonderful and bright future. For many in the African American community hopes have been raised that with a Black President, we will finally be able to put the disease of racism that has too long plagued our country behind us. While these are all wonderful things, we pen this letter to ask that you take a step back and review what has happened, where we are now, before making a decision as to what is the best way forward.

    The passion and enthusiasm created by Obama is irrefutable. However, we disagree with his assessment of himself that experience doesn’t matter. In the course of primary campaign he has made several mistakes from inexperience that will put his bid to win the Presidency in serious jeopardy. For example: his long association with Reverend Wright as his close personal advisor; Reverend Wrights black liberation views and open condemnation of America, Obama’s equating his relationship with Wright to that of family; Obama’s late distancing of himself from Wright; Obama’s unexplained but adamant refusal to wear a flag pin on his lapel until the day after he lost the West Virginia primary; his claim to want to talk to our enemies face to face when he won’t talk to Bill O’Reilly from Fox news face to face; his decision to leave Pennsylvania on the day of that primary and give his concession speech from Indiana; his cursory visits to West Virginia, a state he was not going to win but whose constituencies he absolutely needs to win in November, his condescending remarks to and about women such as telling Hillary, “She was likeable enough.”; or addressing the female reporter in Michigan as “Sweetie.”

    As fall rolls around, so will the 350 million dollar Republican attack machine. And it won’t be pretty. McCain is a war hero who has declared he will follow Osama Bin Laden to the Gates of Hell. It is easy to see this sound clip played, then ending with a voice over that states “And Obama won’t walk through the doors of Fox news.” McCain’ favorite footage of himself begins with pictures of his days as a P.O.W. in Vietnam, and then all decked out in his dress uniform with “God Bless America” playing in the background. The end of the ad bill show Obama not wearing a flag on his lapel pin and the stumbling words he used to explain his decision. We’ve heard those explanations several times and honestly, they don’t make much sense. We could go on and on, but we think you get the picture. Certainly, Karl Rove and his surrogates do.

    So, please think twice, or three times before you cast your vote. There is more at stake than wins and losses in the fall. With the hearts of so many of our youth and African Americans tied to the fate of Obama, we ask that you cast your vote steeped in the light of reason, hard core reality, and free from passion. We believe Hillary has the proven grit and readiness to take on the Republican machine as our nominee and prevail. We believe that if Obama is the nominee then he will be chewed up and spit out by that machine, the harm to the country will be incalculable and it will be our doing as much as theirs.

    Very truly yours

  67. This proves that Obama is totally ignorant of US geography:

    Obama conceded that he has a steep challenge to get his message and background to voters in states such as Kentucky — where he trails Sen. Hillary Clinton by 27 points, according to a poll published earlier this week — and West Virginia, where voters chose Clinton over Obama by 40 points on Tuesday.

    “What it says is that I’m not very well known in that part of the country,” Obama said. “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

    mcclatchydc.com/254/story/37388.html

    Southern Illinois shares a border with Kenmtucky where as Arkansas does not. Check any any US map you want. I am from southern Illinois and it is really insulting.

  68. “Southern Illinois shares a border with Kenmtucky where as Arkansas does not.”

    where the heck is Kenmtucky?

  69. Bambi does not lose. There is always a reason why you cannot expect him to win, surely, he is the messiah.

  70. Colbert assists Bush: ‘Obama is a secret time-traveling Nazi Muslim’

    rawstory.com/news/2008/Colbert_Obama_secret_timetraveling_Nazi_Muslim_0516.html

  71. DATE: May 16, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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    Ellenwood, GA 30294
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    Match it, beat it, just do what you can. Every donation counts!!!

  72. paddy4Hill,
    I am not losing confidence; do not mis understand me. Contact me directly to see what I mean.

  73. I just sent 44.44 to Hillary. My family is hurting right now due to the mortgage crisis and gas prices and my husband’s bad heart, but what my family needs most right now is a President who knows how to Lead. Our family really needs Hillary. While my brothers and sisters may be going BHO because they are AA, -THIS AA- is going to support a REAL president. I may be an AA, but I am a woman first. Rise Hillary Rise. You shall overcome.

  74. wbboei, the dems are afraid of racial backlash. Clyburn and others threatening riots and blackmailing the party has them terrified!

  75. I don’t find it coincidental that Clyburn’s conspiracy theory talk happend just before the North Carolina primary.

  76. There is not going to be racial backlash. People are going to huff and puff for a month or so but in the end will come back home to the Clintons. There may be some AA who sit it out, but most AA will see the light eventually.

  77. for those of you getting fliers in the mail from the DNC or BO camps asking for money. don’t tear them up. they have return envelopes. get yourselves a fat black marker and send back the message of your choice, postage paid!

  78. So we are just days away from the last big contest of this primary season. How does everyone feel? Excited? Or maybe a little bit tired by now. We can tell from Hillary’s pep talk (thanks Basil) that she is certainly up. She is ready to take this nomination battle to the next level.

    I wonder if George Washington was a just like Hillary is now, when he and his troops were camped at Valley Forge that freezing winter over two centuries ago. Somebody must have been keeping the morale up at their base camp or everyone would have just packed up and went home. It certainly did not look like they could defeat the world’s biggest power of the day, Britain, with such a poorly equipped rag tag army as they were. It had to be General Washington who still believed in his mission, believed in the new nation, believed in himself, that kept things going. Sound familiar?

    They had no crystal ball at Valley Forge. Had they given up, there would be no nomination contest between Hillary and Obama. And the funny thing is, the following year; they were feasting on Christmas Day in that very same city they had so hungrily gazed at across the frozen river just the previous winter. The sheer determination of he and his troops were the only thing that made the difference between victory and defeat.

    I am certain that the British media of his day had already written Washington off. If he were waging the same campaign today, he would be toast. Can you imagine what the polls would be saying? The pundits? And yet, he is the founding father of one of the greatest nations the world has ever seen. No Washington, no America.

    I guess you can figure out by now the analogy I am attempting to make. Hillary is truly fighting a battle of equal importance for America, for women, for the Democratic Party. Like George Washington, we can’t know what is around the corner unless we take the next steps. Like Valley Forge, we must endure the hard winter winds before we can taste the fruits of victory. I am so glad that our General has not given up the fight. Her determination to continue the contest in the face of so many difficulties, to help our country, is the fuel that keeps us going. Hopefully, next year, we will be the ones celebrating the rebirth of the United States with Hillary.

    Call and donate today.

  79. alcina, the “out of touch and not ready to lead” ads will keep coming till election night if BHO is the nominee. the GOP will paint him from different corner because he is out of touch and not ready to lead.

  80. I am beginning to realize that this is a male/female election. The pundits on television refuse to even acknowledge or talk about Hill anymore. When someone brings up a topic that would include talking about her, it is dismissed. I am finally seeing the hatred that men have for this female running for president. They think if they can ignore her, that not talking about her on TV will make her go away.

    I am beginning to feel real rage about this. The hatred is so blatant. The women involved are sick. How they can say some of the things they are saying about Hillary or any woman is outrageous.

    Karma is going to get every one of them. When you do something like this to denigrate someone, eventually it will come around and bite you in the ass.

    Hillary has got to win. I picture it all the time. If I can keep seeing her taking the oath of office, it may happen. Everyone carry the picture in your head at all times. We will win this nomination.

    I know once we have the nomination, it will be a done deal.

    Just venting. I am so frustrated.

  81. URGENT, REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION

    Are we just gonna sit here and blog about it or are we gonna DO something?!

    Hillary is still in it to WIN it. In fact, today, Hillary is campaigning in Kentucky and Big Dawg is campaigning in Oregon. Does that sound like somebody who is gonna quit?! NO!!

    EVERYONE: PLEASE DEVOTE AT LEAST 1 HOUR TO MAKING CALLS TO WV and OR TODAY, TOMORROW AND MONDAY!!! Come back here later today and report your success. Inspire others to do the same!

    the narrative: Hill is in it to win it. She CAN still win this if she takes over the popular vote! Tell them that every SINGLE vote matters!!! THEY can make history!

    Oregon is already voting with mail-in ballots! Our time is NOW so please call!
    Let’s keep the momentum going… Our best defense is a large vote turnout for her! We can tremendously help do that! There are tons of votes out here that are ours for the asking, please, please, help us reach these voters!

    Hill needs us more than ever. Now let’s channel some positive energy and make a difference! The absolute sweetest revenge is a HUGE WIN!! Let’s show the bots what we’ve got! Hill is fighting HARD for us, now let’s fight for her!

    SO TODAY: PLEASE MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY and fight for Hillary!!

  82. URGENT, REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION

    Are we just gonna sit here and blog about it or are we gonna DO something?!

    Hillary is still in it to WIN it. In fact, today, Hillary is campaigning in Kentucky and Big Dawg is campaigning in Oregon. Does that sound like somebody who is gonna quit?! NO!!

    EVERYONE: PLEASE DEVOTE AT LEAST 1 HOUR TO MAKING CALLS TO OREGON and KENTUCKY TODAY, TOMORROW AND MONDAY!!! Come back here later today and report your success. Inspire others to do the same!

    the narrative: Hill is in it to win it. She CAN still win this if she takes over the popular vote! Tell them that every SINGLE vote matters!!! THEY can make history!

    Oregon is already voting with mail-in ballots! Our time is NOW so please call!
    Let’s keep the momentum going… Our best defense is a large vote turnout for her! We can tremendously help do that! There are tons of votes out here that are ours for the asking, please, please, help us reach these voters!

    Hill needs us more than ever. Now let’s channel some positive energy and make a difference! The absolute sweetest revenge is a HUGE WIN!! Let’s show the bots what we’ve got! Hill is fighting HARD for us, now let’s fight for her!

    SO TODAY: PLEASE MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY and fight for Hillary!!

  83. When calling folks in Oregon, keep this helpful information handy:
    LGN or the Bush-Cheney Energy bill of 2005 that Obama voted for and Hillary opposed. The bill cut the states out of the decision-making process re: what energy arrangements would be made within their boundaries. Repeat: Obama voted for it, Hillary voted against it.

    LGN or Bush Cheney Energy Bill LGN is Liquid Natural Gas pipeline that will run along our coastline and private farmlands (eminent domain). They will condemn the land for the pipeline right of way and pay what they consider is a fair price which is always really cheap. There is not one thing the property owners can do if they do not stop it early on. The state has no say because its a federal bill. Hillary will give back the state the right to make its own decisions.

    As outlined on this site, one of the many issues is that like with any type of pipeline, engineers want it sitting on at least 75 feet of dead land, which cuts off habitat. Also, the specific problem in Oregon is that the pipeline is running out of Wyoming across southern Oregon onto the coast to get LNG to Calif. This is being protested by Oregonians, who do not want more habitat wrecked, trees cut down so heavy equipment can access, risk of disaster, and expropriation of land — all without Oregon being able to legally intervene or negotiate on behalf of its residents.

    http://www.lngpollutes.org/article.php?list=type&type=26

    Several people I talked to knew nothing about this, and it really caught their attention. So it is good to have some details, because not everyone knows about it there.

  84. That ad, by Hillary can be turned around on them in the GE. Bush went over and ask for gas price reduction from the SA. Did we not fly their royal family out of the country after 9/11 and all of those people involved I think had passports from that country. We ASK them for a gas price reduction.

    We need someone who is strong and hangs in there, and demands a price reduction. Do you think BO can do that. Ugh I don’t think a summer gas tas relief will do much good. When was the last time he purchased gas.

    Hillary talks to people and listen. BO only talks to the place and people that like him.

    We need to go to the phones.

  85. irish1139

    we are witnessing the 2008 version of media control and propaganda a la Paul Joseph Goebbels.

  86. Irish, it does not matter what the stupid media says (or does not say). There are laws that govern the nomination by each Party of their respective candidates. Each media pundit (putz is a better word) has one vote, just like you and me. They have no other legal say in the matter. Voters that like Hillary or dislike Obama or both, have already tuned them out. Don’t assume Americans are that dumb. They will speak as they have been all along in the voting booth. They have the final say.

    Neither Hillary nor Obama will have enough delegates to win the race outright. He will have more delegates, Hillary more votes counting FL/MI, whose votes they will include in any deal. Hence it is up to the delegates at the convention to choose the nominee. They can nominate Mickey Mouse if they want. But by law, this must be decided in Denver, unless one of them drops out.

    Keep your spirits up. Keep your positive imaging going. We will get there in the end. The road is not as long as it seems.

  87. Admin — Fantastic post

    Love that article by Pat Buchanan. As usual, he is miles ahead of the morons in his midst at MSNBC.

    *

    Ok, I want to talk about what I feel are the most important overarching objectives/talking points for us Clinton backers now and going forward if the Dem Elites choose Bambi over the majority will of their Democratic constituents.

    These things, of course, have to be currently balanced with other activities such as OR phonebanking, helping raise more money, etc.

    THE most important thing we have to do going forward:

    1. Organize and Understand our Role
    —————————————

    HillBillyLover — Your move to put up the new site is outstanding, as is Admin’s reaching out to the Women Count Too organization. Same goes for Steve Corbett’s Down With Obama campaign which got underway here in HRC’s childhood home of NEPA but which is now spreading throughout the country.

    We need synergistic, concentrated campaigns. This way our efforts are better-focused and the effect which we hope to have is more likely to succeed. Part of this reality is that it is easier for a show like O’Reilly’s to have on 1 representative organization rather than to have to try to pick from between 50.

    The response to both Women Count Too and Corbett’s efforts have been overwhelming. This shows how deep and wide the anti-Barack coalition is among Dems.

    If we work to co-ordinate our efforts, and to do so efficiently, I would say that within a month or so we could likely have enough voters and committed votes to effectively block an Obama Presidency. Truthfully, such a Presidency would be very hard to achieve if we did nothing, but we have the power to take matters into our own hands here and ensure that such a Presidency never happens.

    This brings me to the second part of this first topic: Understand our Role in the Obama Presidential Prevention Process.

    As I mentioned in my last post, we Dem supporters of Clinton have more than enough numbers to ensure that Obama is not elected as President. Forget about a wobbly GOP who may or may not back McCain in the usual way. We have the power to make this thing happen ourselves with NO Republican involvement. We can, as a unified entity, totally offset any GOP voter attrition and have the outcome we want: Obama on the outside looking in and the Clintons back in charge of the Dem Party as they should have been this entire time.

    So when the time comes — if it comes — don’t look towards the MSM, the GOP or any other external body to help us out. We don’t need their help. This is something which rests entirely with us and which no other organization(s) can wrest from us like the Dem elites wish to wrest the nomination from registered Dem voters.

    We are, then, kingmakers. Or in this case, kingbreakers. But we only get to play our part if we are organized and focused. If not, the MSM and Obama’s thugs get to marginalize us, again. This is why their is a fresh coterie of Axelrodian Astroturfers now in circulation, to try to play the false ‘good Dem’ card against those whom the astroturfers only just were calling racists a moment ago.

    The way to enact efficient organization is to join up with already-established efforts. For example, if I want to personally help get things moving in our collective anti-Obama efforts, then the best thing I can do is to sign-up with Women Count Too rather than trying to start my own offshoot. Similarly, HillBillyLover’s idea for a ‘clearing house’ site of germane material to helping achieve our ends is very important. Time to pool all of our resources together.

    ———————–

    2. Here is a list of non-starters which astroturfing “We’re all Dems” types will try with you. Do not take the bait except if you are doing so on purpose to eat up the ‘turfers time in order to hinder his/her effectiveness:

    – You’re not a real Dem
    – You’re racist
    – This is all Clinton’s fault
    – When BHO loses, HRC will get the blame
    – etc.

    As we all know, all of the above are totally bogus. However, if you feel like you need some talking points against such inanity, here are some:

    – “Real Dems,” by a majority, voted for Clinton to be the nominee. Don’t lecture me on who is a ‘Real Dem.’ Further, ‘Real Dems’ don’t call other real Dems ‘racists,’ right?

    – I’m racist? Really? I guess you must feel similarly about the 92% of AA’s who have voted for BHO throughout the nomination process then, yes? Is anyone allowed to oppose any candidate of a different race without falling into the ‘racist’ category? I mean, if I don’t support Alan Keyes’ next bid for President, does this mean I’m racist?

    – Let me get this straight: You’re telling me that: “Katrina Tears,” Douglas D-Wild Wilder, James Clyburn, Amaya Smith and her South Carolina Memo, Michelle “wake up” Obama, “fairy tale,” LBJ/MLK, FL & MI, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Larry Sinclair, BitterGate, Afghanis speaking Arabic, unconditional meetings with Ahmadinejad, Odinga, ‘sweetie,’ dissing WV & KY, “Monster,” “Obsessed” white working-class voters, support from Farrakhan, the New Black Panter Party and Hamas and throw typical white person grandma under the bus is Clinton’s fault? Ha. Ha ha. BWAHAHAHAHA!

    – We know you all will be blaming Hillary when Obama falls down, goes boom in November is he’s nominated. And?

    The next time Hillary — you might know her better as
    “D – Punjab” — discusses ‘typical black people’ or how blacks cling to poverty pimps like J. Wright when they feel dissed by Washington, please let me know. Only one candidate that I see has done everything in his power to alienate huge swaths of the electorate as well as piss-off his opponents’ supporters. And that Cap’t of the Titanic is Barack Obama. Blame him for hitting the iceberg; he sure as heck worked hard to do so.

    ———————-

    3. Prez McSame, Supreme Court, etc.:

    The world is a series of grays with very little pure white or black to be found. And so it is with what looks to be our Presidential choices this time around.

    I admire John McCain. He went through something in 2000 very similar to what Hillary is going through now: an all-out smear campaign from someone in his won party.

    McCain is a patriot, has made tremendous personal sacrifices for a country he loves, unequivocally opposes terrorists and terrorist-sponsoring nations and is not someone looking to use the ugly history of race relations in America as the cynical centerpiece of his campaign.

    Simply put, McCain exudes — or at least displays — honor and integrity. You know what he stands for. He loves our country and has the scars to prove it.

    In contrast, OBambi is a child of privilege whose only ‘service’ has been to himself.

    Take a guess which of the 3 remaining pols wrote these words over a decade ago:

    Black politicians…discovered what white politicians had known for a very long time: That race-baiting could make up for a host of limitations.

    None of what has been done by Jackson, Jr. or Doug Wilder in the efforts to help a rookie, very limited candidate from Illinois is coincidental. This is all part of a tried-and-true strategy which Axelrod dry-ran with his most recent project-turned-embarrassment, Deval Patrick.

    These members of the cynical, corrupt Chicago Political Machine want all of us to unthinkingly line up behind ODumbo if he is nominated. That is why the latest round of astroturfers has been dispatched.

    We cannot, must not, do it. We have to commit to not only not supporting Obama but also to voting for McCain outright. Any other course of action could very well lead to an electoral version of “…then the terrorists win.”

    Supreme Court: Two things here:

    A. Mistakes do happen with the nomination process. Just ask the GOP how things went with David Souter.
    Also, this is McCain we’re talking about, not Dubya or Ronald Reagan. That is, there is no ‘sure bet’ that McCain would appoint someone who will hurt the interests which we want to see promulgated.

    B. Far more importantly, there is absolutely NO reason to think Obama would get it right in naming justices any more than thinking he would get it right in choosing: American-loving spouses, 20-year spiritual mentors, to stay away from admitted domestic terrorists, slumlord financiers or to not smear the family of the only Democratic presidency of the last 28 years as being ‘racists.’

    And to think, this guy actually tried to say early on that he was running on judgment.

    Obama is a train wreck, and one who has horrific powers of reasoning. Remember, Oprah left Trinity after a very short period of time. Also remember that Obama let his image be used — as well as campaigned for — his maniacal cousin Raila Odinga in Kenya who, after he lost the election in Dec. 2007, at a bare minimum flipped Obama the bird and did nothing to rein-in his supporters as they killed hundreds of fellow Kenyans.

    What we have as concerns McCain vs Bambi is a classic “Devil you know vs the devil you don’t” scenario.

    We understand what McCain is. We know his glaring weaknesses as well as his areas of comparative strength.

    With Obama, nothing is known. Nobody knows how far the ties with Rezko, Auchi and other shadowy figures extend. Nobody knows how much Obama is on the hook to ‘pay back’ figures such at Ayers were he to be elected. We have no idea just how much Obama would capitulate to figures such as Ahmadinejad or leaders of Hamas whom Obama has either made foolish statements about or who have fawned over childhood (at least)-Muslim Obama. Nobody knows, and many don’t want to find out.

    We Clinton supporters are in a position where blind ‘Dem loyalty’must be tossed-aside for the interests of both our party and our nation going forward. There is simply too much at stake and too much damage which the neo-Jacobinian Obama Thug Crew will do (and have boldly SAID they will do) if Bambi is elected.

    We can, and we must, stop that from happening. This is our cross to bear and we have to pick it up, every day, from now until November. As necessary.

    I hate to use Messianic language but there is an apt analogy to be made here between we Clinton supporters’ role in an “extended primary” lasting until November and the reported actions of the historical Jesus.

    When Jesus had seen enough of the farce that the moneychangers and sacrificial animal peddlers had made out of the Temple, he proceeded to cast out the buffoons and started turning over tables. It was his “enough” moment.

    We Clinton supporters — and the entirety of the American electorate — have been facing our own scam artists in Obama and his corrupt, thuggish, race-baiting backers. It is time for us, similar to the figure in the New Testament, to collectively lay our righteous fist down on the table which these shell-game artists have been operating.

    No more supporting of, or free passes given to, those who seek to exploit the worst aspects of human nature and our nation’s challenging history. In the name of MLK, it is time for this deplorable, hypocritical race-baiting to end.

    Organize. Donate. Phone bank. Become comfortable with refuting the nonsense of the astroturfers as well as being able to stomach voting for McCain.

    Everything we need to do now can be summed up in words:

    Stop Obama

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  88. The MSM owners and their well paid gutless pundits,have a long planned crusade to deny Women in general and Hillary in fact to deny the American voters their right to one personn,one vote.I no longer watch MSNBC and CNN.Fox has some interesting views of Obama that I share but I know better than to think that they are friends of we Democrats.
    The MSM has very skillfuly injected sexual attraction to influence viewer participation.Botox beauties,young ambitious nymphs,old and restructured has beens(Bay Buchanan).Seen her lately?a Barbie face with dead batteries.Mika with the same nervous legs syndrome that tweety seems to enjoy.She keeps leaving a blouse button a day open as her nutty infatuation of Obama and her hatred of our Hillary.Her Bro.( Obama adviser) Her Father(bush mentioned as an appeaser along with afew other dead wood politicians,so she knows who butters her bread.What have the once admired media come to? answer,MONEY POLUTES POSITIVELY.
    Hillary will prevail and they know that but they really don’t know how much strength and resolve she can muster ,to save our country.BO and MO must go. In fact they will both realize the rush for them to get started is now.It will be great to see and hear the video of Mo speaking at the Wright temple of doom,when she mentions the WHITEYS in their battle for AA Supremecy. That will be a real Barn Burner.

    By ABM90

    ” IT WILL TAKE OUR HILLARY TO FIX OUR VILLAGE “

  89. A friend emailed me this poem that sounds a lot like us and our candidate, Hillary Clinton. The author is unknown.

    The One Flaw In Women

    By the time the Lord made woman,
    He was into his sixth day of working overtime.
    An angel appeared and said,
    ‘Why are you spending so much time on this one?’
    And the Lord answered, ‘Have you seen my spec sheet on her?
    She has to be completely washable, but not plastic,
    have over 200 movable parts, all replaceable
    and able to run on diet coke and leftovers,
    have a lap that can hold four children at one time,
    have a kiss that can cure anything from a scraped knee to a broken heart
    and she will do everything with only two hands.’

    The angel was astounded at the requirements.
    ‘Only two hands!? No way!
    And that’s just on the standard model?
    That’s too much work for one day.
    Wait until tomorrow to finish.’

    ‘But I won’t, ‘ the Lord protested
    ‘I am so close to finishing this creation that is so close to my own
    heart.
    She already heals herself when she is sick
    AND can work 18 hour days.’

    The angel moved closer and touched the woman.
    ‘But you have made her so soft, Lord.’

    ‘She is soft,’ the Lord agreed,
    ‘but I have also made her tough.
    You have no idea what she can endure or accomplish.’

    ‘Will she be able to think?’, asked the angel.

    The Lord replied,
    ‘Not only will she be able to think,
    she wi ll be able to reason and negotiate.’

    The angel then noticed something,
    and reaching out, touched the woman’s cheek.
    ‘Oops, it looks like you have a leak in this model.
    I told you that you were trying to put too much into this one.’

    ‘That’s not a leak,’ the Lord corrected, ‘that’s a tear!’
    ‘What’s the tear for?’ the angel asked.

    The Lord said, ‘The tear is her way of expressing her joy,
    her sorrow, her pain, her disappointment, her love,
    her loneliness, her grief and her pride.’
    The angel was impressed.
    ‘You are a genius, Lord.
    You thought of everything!
    Woman is truly amazing.’

    And she is!
    Women have strengths that amaze men.
    They bear hardships and they carry burdens,
    but they hold happiness, love and joy.
    They smile when they want to scream.
    They sing when they want to cry.
    They cry when they are happy
    and laugh when they are nervous.
    They fight for what they believe in.
    Th ey stand up to injustice.
    They don’t take ‘no’ for an answer
    when they believe there is a better solution.
    They go without so their family can have.
    They go to the doctor with a frightened friend.
    They love unconditionally.
    They cry when their children excel
    and cheer when their friends get awards.
    They are happy when they hear about
    a birth or a wedding.
    Their hearts break when a friend dies.
    They grieve at the loss of a family member,
    yet they are strong = when they think there is no strength left.
    They know that a hug and a kiss
    can heal a broken heart.
    Women come in all shapes, sizes and colors.
    They’ll drive, fly, walk, run or e-mail you
    to show how much they care about you.
    The heart of a woman is what makes the world keep turning.
    They bring joy, hope and love.
    They have compassion and ideals.
    They give moral support to their family and friends.
    Women have vital things to say and everythi ng to give

    HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ONE TINY FLAW IN WOMEN,

    IT IS THAT THEY FORGET THEIR WORTH.

  90. URGENT, REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION

    Hillary is still in it to WIN it. In fact, today, Hillary is campaigning in Kentucky and Big Dawg is campaigning in Oregon. Does that sound like somebody who is gonna quit?! NO!!

    EVERYONE: PLEASE DEVOTE AT LEAST 1 HOUR TO MAKING CALLS TO OREGON and KENTUCKY TODAY, TOMORROW AND MONDAY!!! Come back here later today and report your success. Inspire others to do the same!

    the narrative: Hill is in it to win it. She CAN still win this if she takes over the popular vote! Tell them that every SINGLE vote matters!!! THEY can make history!

    As reported earlier, it’s CLOSE in Oregon. Recent ARG poll – Oregon: Clinton 45; Obama 50. We can help change that!! Oregon is already voting with mail-in ballots! Our time is NOW so please call! Let’s keep the momentum going… Our best defense is a large vote turnout for her! We can tremendously help do that! There are tons of votes out here that are ours for the asking, please, please, help us reach these voters!

    Hill needs us more than ever. Now let’s channel some positive energy and make a difference! The absolute sweetest revenge is a HUGE WIN!! Let’s show the bots what we’ve got! Hill is fighting HARD for us, now let’s fight for her!

    SO TODAY: PLEASE MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY and fight for Hillary!!

  91. Again, reposting:

    When calling folks in Oregon, keep this helpful information handy:
    LGN or the Bush-Cheney Energy bill of 2005 that Obama voted for and Hillary opposed. The bill cut the states out of the decision-making process re: what energy arrangements would be made within their boundaries. Repeat: Obama voted for it, Hillary voted against it.

    LGN or Bush Cheney Energy Bill LGN is Liquid Natural Gas pipeline that will run along our coastline and private farmlands (eminent domain). They will condemn the land for the pipeline right of way and pay what they consider is a fair price which is always really cheap. There is not one thing the property owners can do if they do not stop it early on. The state has no say because its a federal bill. Hillary will give back the state the right to make its own decisions.

    As outlined on this site, one of the many issues is that like with any type of pipeline, engineers want it sitting on at least 75 feet of dead land, which cuts off habitat. Also, the specific problem in Oregon is that the pipeline is running out of Wyoming across southern Oregon onto the coast to get LNG to Calif. This is being protested by Oregonians, who do not want more habitat wrecked, trees cut down so heavy equipment can access, risk of disaster, and expropriation of land — all without Oregon being able to legally intervene or negotiate on behalf of its residents.

    http://www.lngpollutes.org/article.php?list=type&type=26

    Several people I talked to knew nothing about this, and it really caught their attention. So it is good to have some details, because not everyone knows about it there.

  92. Hi, I just ran across your site and I am very happy to have found it. I am so SICK of the blind Obama worshop I could scream. I can’t believe that this person with just about zero experience and who voted “present” on really imporatant votes so that no one could pin him down and that is on record as agreeing with GWB regarding the war, is being held up like the second coming. Neither my husband nor I will lift a finger to vote for Obama and there are a lot of people just like us. Obama has been shoved down our throats by the MSM and we are very resentful about it. And no, I am not racist! If Obama was the person he falsely represents himself to be I would vote for him in a minute, no matter what race he was.
    I know if Hillary was elected that she would be able to handle the huge mess that has been created over the last eight years and I find it really disturbing that so many people seem more concerned about pushing their own agendas regarding race and power and even youth that they are leading us into this brick wall.
    Thanks for providing a place where I can say all of this without being attacked.

  93. Hello all Hillary friends…

    Admin and all…did anyone catch last night’s ‘McLaughlin Hour’? (I posted this over at TM also)

    If anyone knows how to make a clip…John McLaughlin did a fantastic segment on how the media is missing the story on how weak Obama’s support really is…John went on to illustrate how because of the crazy democratic delegate system, Obama received I think 13 delegates from Iowa with a relatively small amount of actual votes, but Hillary only got 10 delegates from PA with a win of 200,000 votes…

    Admin, if you could feature that clip, I think we should send it to all the superdelegates…it really illustrates how thin Obama’s support is even though he has been racking up delegates…and what a fraud is being pulled on the democratic voters…it makes it easy to understand…

  94. bird and ronald

    hope he’s able to hang-in there to see hillary elected president of the united states.

  95. I can’t let this pass. Some people are making too big of a deal about Obama’s lack of knowledge of US geography. For example, clintondem99 posted this quote:

    “What it says is that I’m not very well known in that part of the country,” Obama said. “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

    The truth is there are a lot of people in this country who don’t know that nor whether or not there are 57 or more states. I’m saying it isn’t unusual.

    For example:

    Probably 95% of those under the age of 5 don’t know those things.

    There are many foreigners in this country who don’t know those things.

    Some unfortunates in special education may not know it.

    Of course, there are a few phony patriots around who don’t know anything about it.

    Just fit Obama under the proper category and forget about it. No big deal!

    Finally I want to offer a name for that bunch of rabble rousers among Obama’s supporters, particularly the kinds that bully people. It may not gain wide usage even though it’s appropriate. That name is:

    OBAMANURE

  96. Check this out
    So much for change
    Looks like politics as usual

    Obama Economic Controller
    Is Skull And Bones Member
    Austan ‘The Ghoul’ Goolsbee, Yale ’91

    http://www.rense.com/general80/web.htm
    By Webster Tarpley
    2-4-8

    OBAMA’S TRIFECTA: FOREIGN POLICY LINE IS RUN BY TRILATERAL FOUNDER ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI -OBAMA”S WIFE LINKED TO COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

    WASHINGTON DC — Barack Obama’s top economics adviser is a member of the super-secret Skull & Bones society of Yale University, of which George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and John Kerry are also members, reliable sources confirmed tonight. Goolsbee is widely reported to have told Obama not to back a compulsory freeze on home mortgage foreclosures to help the struggling middle class in the current depression crisis, as demanded by former candidate John Edwards. Hillary Clinton has advocated a one-year voluntary freeze on foreclosures. Obama has offered counselors to comfort mortgage victims as they are dispossessed, citing the ‘moral hazard’ of protecting the public interest from Wall Street sharks.

    By adding the infamous Skull & Bones secret society to his campaign roster, Obama, who bills himself as the candidate of change and hope, has attained a prefect trifecta of oligarchical and financier establishment backing for his attempt to seize the nomination of the Democratic Party for 2008. Obama’s main overall image adviser and foreign policy adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of David Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission, and the mastermind of the disastrous Carter administration. Obama’s wife Michelle is reputed to be closely linked to the Council on Foreign Relations. Behind the utopian platitudes dished up by the Illinois senator, the face of the Wall Street money elite comes into clearer and clearer focus.

    George Will, in an October 2007 Washington Post column saluted Goolsbee’s “nuanced understanding” of traditional Democratic issues like globalization and income inequality; he “seems to be the sort of fellow — amiable, empirical, and reasonable–you would want at the elbow of a Democratic president, if such there must be,” wrote the arch-oligarchical apologist Will.

    From Wikipedia: ‘Austan D. Goolsbee is an economist and is currently the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He is also a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation[1], Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office. He has been Barack Obama’s economic advisor since Obama’s successful U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois. He is the lead economic advisor to the 2008 Obama presidential campaign.’
    ………………………………………

  97. alcina Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 11:56 am
    bird and ronald

    hope he’s able to hang-in there to see hillary elected president of the united states.

    THAT would be appropriate karma.

    He has been evil; Mary Jo, etc.

  98. well well well……..I guess there is alot of stress in the bambi/kennedy camp !

    about “skull and bones” do some research……you will find many many more in that club

    like pres. bush, John Kerry….etc etc.

  99. I hate to be cynical but of course his new BFF bambi will have to rush to his side…excuse to skip out on more campaigning. I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past them.

  100. “Black politicians…discovered what white politicians had known for a very long time: That race-baiting could make up for a host of limitations.”

    I have read this before i believe it was his mentor that in his book he calls “frank” I forget now who “frank” is in real life
    but i remember he was a lot like Farrakhan.

    universal…….do you know?

  101. alcina Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    does ted kennedy have health insurance?
    *****************************************************
    Yep, a very good one since it’s paid by “we the people.”

  102. Sen. Kennedy Rushed To Hospital
    Kennedy Moved From Cape To Boston Hospital

    POSTED: 11:08 am EDT May 17, 2008
    UPDATED: 12:09 pm EDT May 17, 2008

    HYANNIS, Mass. — Sen. Edward M. Kennedy was rushed by ambulance to Cape Cod Hospital after falling ill at the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport, The Cape Cod Times reported Saturday.

    Hyannis fire responded to the compound after a call was made around 8:30 a.m., the newspaper reported on its Web site. It’s unclear what Kennedy’s medical condition is, but after he spent almost two hours in the emergency room a decision was made to transfer him to Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.

    CNN quoted a source as saying that Kennedy was suffering from “stroke-like symptoms.”

    Kennedy, 76, was placed on a stretcher and wheeled out to the MedFlight helicopter around 10:15 a.m. where it took off from Barnstable Municipal Airport, the newspaper reported.

  103. Irish1139 Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
    I am beginning to realize that this is a male/female election. The pundits on television refuse to even acknowledge or talk about Hill anymore. When someone brings up a topic that would include talking about her, it is dismissed. I am finally seeing the hatred that men have for this female running for president. They think if they can ignore her, that not talking about her on TV will make her go away.

    I am beginning to feel real rage about this. The hatred is so blatant. The women involved are sick. How they can say some of the things they are saying about Hillary or any woman is outrageous.

    Karma is going to get every one of them. When you do something like this to denigrate someone, eventually it will come around and bite you in the ass.

    Hillary has got to win. I picture it all the time. If I can keep seeing her taking the oath of office, it may happen. Everyone carry the picture in your head at all times. We will win this nomination.

    I know once we have the nomination, it will be a done deal.

    Just venting. I am so frustrated.
    *****************************************************
    No, it’s the reality Hillary has been facing from the beginning. That’s why they are trying to force her out of the race BEFORE the convention…it only at the convention does the delegate count matter and is official.

  104. well, since i am a photographer I work with huge files, so i now have to clean my computer up as it is running really slow today

    speaking of cleaning…. 🙁 my mother is coming for a few days and since i tend to be on my computer alot of the time
    both working and chatting 😀 I MUST clean house today

    certainly my least fav thing to do…. but will check in from time to time today

    hope everyone here is having awesome weather like i am and gets outside to enjoy it!

    have a great day!

  105. I am agreeing with the people who wish Ted Kennedy a speedy and full recovery.

    I don’t agree with him in this election, but he has contributed many great things to our country during my lifetime.

    I wouldn’t wish death or great harm on ANY person. Not BHO. Not anybody.

  106. Carby:

    As Madeline Albright says, “There is a special place in hell, for women who do not support other women.”

    I hope, they receive the karma that they deserve.,

  107. I wish Senator Kennedy a full recovery even though I hated what he said recently about HRC. It was just uncalled for.

  108. hallow: karma can be a bitch. He left a woman to die in a car, and after what he has done to Hillary, my compassion meter is very low. I hope, he does recover, so that he can see Hillary Rodham Clinton sworn in as President of The United States Of America.

  109. There is no such thing as karma, people. Ted Kennedy is a public figure who has done great things, even for Bill Clinton and his rise to a great presidency. He does not deserve a possibly deadly or debilitating stroke because of “karma”.

  110. Obama is losing his core base and the more question come up regarding Obama’s resume as a public servant the more he loses support.

    Obama is WEAK and he needs help to even get this far…he can’t even knock out Hillary Clinton in the race because Hillary IS the STRONGER candidate.

    My foolish daughter and her friend are trying to convince me to support Obambi if he gets the nominee…and I told her I don’t lower my standards for POTUS and with Obambi I would have to eliminate any standards.

  111. carbynew – Please don’t call your own daughter foolish. My mother has called me many awful things behind my back, and when I found out about it, it really wrecked my life for a while.

    She may be mislead, or misinformed, or underinformed, but if she is your daughter, she is not foolish.

  112. Come on guys, we don’t really want to resort to dancing on graves do we? Remember, karma works both ways. Let’s all light a candle for him and hope he gets better.

  113. hallow Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
    There is no such thing as karma, people. Ted Kennedy is a public figure who has done great things, even for Bill Clinton and his rise to a great presidency. He does not deserve a possibly deadly or debilitating stroke because of “karma”.
    ****************************************************
    Mary Jo Kopechne

  114. I am going to chime in a bit on this karma and what ever wishes we each have for just a moment before i get busy.

    I would never REALLY wish anyone death or illness no matter what they have or have not done. I don’t believe anyone here would either…I am certain that our emotions such as they are about this race and all the 👿 things done to hillary have left us with many “bitter” feelings that are running on full speed and can be confused with what is truly in our hearts.

    it is my belief that we all get what we deserve, which is left to “fate” but that is up to gods wishes not my own.

    my only observation on todays events with Ted kennedy is that he must of been under tremendous stress with obama’s campaign…. and if they are under that much stress, that’s a good thing for us hillary supporters

  115. Hi all,

    Well, for what it is worth, my thought on hearing the news about Kenendy was not sweetness and light.

    He has played an ugly role in this primary and he has a lot to answer for in his life.

    I am sujrfe B O will now rush to his bedside and hold his hand. what headlines those will be.

  116. dija: my only observation on todays events with Ted kennedy is that he must of been under tremendous stress with obama’s campaign…. and if they are under that much stress, that’s a good thing for us hillary supporters

    Exactly. Do you know, that FDR called Joseph Kennedy, one of the most evil men that he knew? He gave Kennedy the ambassorship to Britain, to get him out of the country and out his hair. This was noted in a History Channel story on the Kennedy’s.

  117. Let us all agree that we don’t actually, truly wish any physical harm upon Barack Obama or his supporters.

    No physical harm.

    Albeit they are kool-aid drinkers, and they deserve many insults, and we will overpower them during the election because they will be too busy drinking their lattes to win any election…

    We wish no physical harm upon them.

    Capeesh?

  118. Everyone,

    I need help with something. do you know the names of any bloggersw who were banned at either dkos or mydd?

    I know about Universal, of course. but what are the others. there are many. Please post them here.

    Appreciate it

  119. Hallow, I love my daughter very much and she knows this and knows I have her back BUT my daughter/family is fully aware that I think they are foolish in their decision to vote for Obambi because of his WEAK RESUME.

    We had a discussion last night how if she had a Billion dollar company and Obambi submitted his resume he wouldn’t even get a appointment….I know my daughter very well, a leech on my money but tightfisted on hers.

  120. Of course, Kennedy has insurance, the best money can buy. but he wants to make surfe the buy who will not give it to you is elected.

  121. A democracy is guided by the voters, not super delegates. Even the Repulican party knows that. If the SDs are having stress, they have brought it on themselves. They should be supporting the Voters, not putting their hands out to see what they can get.

    Anyone for limited terms? Somehow in the Democratic party our Democracy has gotten away from us.

  122. hallow-
    I dont wish physical harm on kennedy or BO or his supporters or his wife.

    I wish other things- like I wish their bad karma would come back and haunt them.
    and I wish they would lose the nomination.
    that’s all.

    Oh and seriously, get over yourself 🙂

  123. Hallow: Of course not, but for Ted Kennedy, all I can say is whenever he faces God, he’s got some answering to do for the way he has lived his life.

    Also, someone can act foolish, but not be foolish. It is a behavior, not a label, or who the person is.

  124. As a vegan, I don’t condone harm upon animals, and likewise I don’t condone harm against people.

    I wouldn’t want Ted Kennedy to die, just like I wouldn’t a mosquito or a rat to die. Good analogy, I think.

  125. # carbynew Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    My foolish daughter and her friend are trying to convince me to support Obambi if he gets the nominee…and I told her I don’t lower my standards for POTUS and with Obambi I would have to eliminate any standards.
    &&&&

    Good one!

    So you’re not going to be like so many of those SDs, “Gosh, it was a rilly hard decision, but like, ya know, my kids are all for this young guy…I wouldn’t want to disappoint my kids. So I endorse Obama because…. kids think he’s cool”.

  126. Ronald: I think, he did hit an artery. TM is saying, he may have died. I don’t watch the news anymore, so I’m not sure.

  127. linfar Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Everyone,

    I need help with something. do you know the names of any bloggersw who were banned at either dkos or mydd?
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    They think that if they chase us off the playground, then they can say the won. Ostrich head in the sand, “Can’t see any Hillary supporters, so there must not be any”.

    Bunch of douche bags.

  128. I went over to Clinton Dems and replied to “Reality Check” Michael’s diary against voting for McCain if Hill is not the one. I got logged on and typed in my message but it never showed. Wonder why. Anyway, this is what I wrote,
    Dear Michael Myopic,
    Is it better to endure 4 more years of Republicans at the end of which Dems will still be respected? or is it better for Dems to put an unqualified, ineffectual, impractical dreamer on the hot seat in the Oval Office and set the Dems up for another long line of losses in years to come? But never mind, Hillary Clinton will be our next president.

  129. rgb44hrc – I heard that Jimmy Carter is supporting Barack Obama because his kids, his kids’ spouses, and his grandchildren support BO. That’s pretty whipped if you ask me.

  130. from a poster on TM: CNN is reporting teddy has been on the phone cancelling his own lunch plans, so that is a good sign

  131. birdgal – Ted Kennedy may have died?!?

    I’m going to light a candle for him right now. Don’t care about karma. I don’t want him to die!

  132. linfar,

    I seem to be banned at mydd, apparently from posting the following:


    “Stop or We’ll Defect!”
    Some of us Hillary supporters believe that Obama has no chance against McCain. Some of his supporters think Obama does have a chance, counting on our support in November — so we need to show them how many votes they will be losing from our demographic, if they nominate Obama rather than Hillary.

    We’re being called ‘Revenge Bitches’ among other things, but we need — while there is still time — to dissuade the Democratic Party from nominating Obama and following him off the cliff.

    If pledging now to support McCain over Obama is what it take to stop that rush over the cliff, then I think it’s justified — since Obama has no chance in November anyway, with us or without us.

    Some people are already switching and donating to McCain, which is pre-mature. We need to spend our resources for Hillary till August, and certainly for Hillary if she gets the nomination! I don’t want to donate to McCain now only to find Hillary running against him after all.

    As one way to show that we’re serious before it’s too late, I suggest a “congingency donation” fund — a fund to collect donations now that will go to Hillary if she gets the nomination — and to McCain only if Obama gets the nomination.

    Granted this would tie up the money for a while — but it’s better than donating to McCain now, as some people are doing.

    Politico says one group of defectors will be on O’Reilly May 15. I haven’t been able to find the group’s website.

    An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.

    Led by Boomer-aged women, the group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, is holding a press conference in Columbus at noon to release this statement.

    Organizers Cynthia Ruccia, 55, and Jamie Dixey, 57, both from the Columbus area, say they’re coordinating women, men, minorities, union members and others in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan – all important swing states next November [….]

  133. 1950democrat – I am reading nothing at all bad in that diary entry. Don’t know why they banned you. That seems like the general consensus of a lot of people on MyDD.

  134. Is it only me, or has anyone else noticed how on the CSI shows, and House how some of these women dress sexual in the Office. The men have on regular shirts and stuff. However, the women really dress sexy for the office.

    This has been bugging me. If all of them were on equal terms (like men with there shirts off), it would be different. But I really think women are being sexually exposed on these shows.

    Of course the women singers are played that way also. It got really bad with Kelly Clarkson. I told my daughter that when you have less on than the back up singers and dancers, there is something wrong.

    I think women are being told that this will get them ahead. Interesting that the men don’t have to do that to get ahead.

    Just thinking out loud.

  135. Ronald Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    lighting candles is a good way to fend off mosquitoes

    Especially, citronella ones. LOL!

  136. CNN:

    Edwards flatly rules out running with Obama

    May 16, 2008Posted: 04:00 PM ET

    (CNN) — Seeing John Edwards and Barack Obama on the same stage earlier this week left political pundits buzzing: Could these two be an unbeatable presidential ticket?

    They appeared to have natural chemistry — something Edwards and then-Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry seemed to lack in 2004 — and the former North Carolina senator remains popular among a key demographic that has been reluctant to support Obama — working class white voters.

    But Edwards flatly said Friday, as he had before he endorsed a candidate, that he’s not interested in making a second run for vice president.

    “No,” Edwards said in no uncertain terms on NBC’s the Today show when asked about the possibility. “Won’t happen.…It’s just not something I am interested in.”

    As for another position in an Obama administration, specifically Attorney General, Edwards was decidedly more coy.

    “I don’t really want to get involved in that speculation,” he said. “Right now we have to focus on getting Barack Obama elected to President of the United States, then we’ll worry about those things.”

    Edwards formally endorsed Obama Wednesday evening, the day after Clinton scored a 41 point victory over the Illinois senator in West Virginia. Edwards also said Friday the timing of his announcement was not specifically designed by the Obama campaign to direct the media coverage away from the New York senator’s win.
    &&&&&&

    What, JohnBoy didn’t want to lose as VP a second time?

    Oh, and his timing for the endorsement “was not specifically designed by the Obama campaign to direct the media coverage away from the New York senator’s win.”

    Does this leave ample wiggle room that the coordination of such timing was not very specific, that Obama & Cabal would not want their fingerprints all over this?

    When the Godfather says, “Take care of the ‘situation’, you don’t give explicit orders”.

    John just woke up the morning after Obama’s worst a##-pounding, and said, “What a great candidate”.

  137. NEED DEMOGRAPHIC/POLITICAL INFO ABOUT t SD, MT and KY

    For her project of sending comments to local news sites, Spega needs info about different regions of those states. Which are rural, which are urban, where are the demographics we need?

    She is spabeles *at* pat***riot *dot* net

  138. poppin again 😀

    so why is it that kennedy turns up ill and 👿 gets non stop free press on all cable news channels all morning, and probably all day long?

    kennedy better not be faking this so that BO gets all weekend long press!! (sorry but i did have that thought)

  139. CNN:

    Edwards flatly rules out running with Obama

    May 16, 2008Posted: 04:00 PM ET

    (CNN) — Seeing John Edwards and Barack Obama on the same stage earlier this week left political pundits buzzing: Could these two be an unbeatable presidential ticket?

    They appeared to have natural chemistry — something Edwards and then-Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry seemed to lack in 2004 — and the former North Carolina senator remains popular among a key demographic that has been reluctant to support Obama — working class white voters.

    But Edwards flatly said Friday, as he had before he endorsed a candidate, that he’s not interested in making a second run for vice president.

    “No,” Edwards said in no uncertain terms on NBC’s the Today show when asked about the possibility. “Won’t happen.…It’s just not something I am interested in.”

    As for another position in an Obama administration, specifically Attorney General, Edwards was decidedly more coy.

    “I don’t really want to get involved in that speculation,” he said. “Right now we have to focus on getting Barack Obama elected to President of the United States, then we’ll worry about those things.”

    Edwards formally endorsed Obama Wednesday evening, the day after Clinton scored a 41 point victory over the Illinois senator in West Virginia. Edwards also said Friday the timing of his announcement was not specifically designed by the Obama campaign to direct the media coverage away from the New York senator’s win.
    &&&&&&

    What, JohnBoy didn’t want to lose as VP a second time?

    Oh, and his timing for the endorsement “was not specifically designed by the Obama campaign to direct the media coverage away from the New York senator’s win.”

    Does this leave ample wiggle room that the coordination of such timing was not very specific, that Obama & Cabal would not want their fingerprints all over this?

    When the Godfather says, “Take care of the ‘situation’, capishe”, he doesn’t have to give explicit orders.

    John just woke up the morning after Obama’s worst a##-pounding, and said, “What a great candidate”.

  140. Posters,
    How do I get a jpg or tiff to place here to post. I have
    re-designed a sufferage photo and would like your comments on it.
    1917-2008 still sufferaging.

  141. dija-you’re worse than I am! 😉
    he is NOT faking it. trust me on that one. He is genuinely ill (which I didn’t believe at first).

  142. Ronald Says:

    May 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    dija-you’re worse than I am!
    he is NOT faking it. trust me on that one. He is genuinely ill (which I didn’t believe at first).

    Joseph Kennedy had a massive stroke, which left debilitated for years. I don’t think, this is being faked, but after everything, that has happened, it wouldn’t surprise me.

  143. NewMexicoFan Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Is it only me, or has anyone else noticed how on the CSI shows, and House how some of these women dress sexual in the Office.
    &&&&&&

    Isn’t this essentially asking why CSI Miami is the most watched show in the world?

    Actually, at my place of work, some women do dress on the “sluttier” side. And the other women do make comments. You can guess how most of the men feel about it.

  144. He should have taken better care of himself. Packing all that fat around is not healthy. He’s obese, he smokes, he drinks, it’s obvious he rarely exercises. Stroke waiting to happen. Best health care available, able to afford the best dieticians, able to afford great exercise equipment .. but I didn’t see him do anything to try to get healthy.

  145. rbb44hrc

    Yes, but are they doing what they see on TV? In otherwords, women are being program that, that is the way to dress in the office. The House Doctor really sexually harrasses his boss, and she takes it. another example for women.

    Just some thoughts.

  146. universal,

    Is there a neat list of links to all these anti-Obama (and pro McCain?) organizations? I’ve heard some defectors are also organizing on McCain sites but don’t know how to find them.

    If not, I’ll put something like that at my livejournal, if you can supply the info.

  147. I hate to say this but I think something hinkky is going on with this hospitilzation of TK. Eulogizing him practically to get out talking points for Obama .. sounds fishy. Anyone who would leave someone to die is capable of most anything.

  148. dot48-
    NO. that is not true or appropriate. He is having a stroke. Its serious.
    What the media chooses to do with the story is another matter.

  149. dot48-
    Im with you. Too bad I blog faster than I think.

    and I may be in the know but if I admit to it, they would take me to jail.
    😯

  150. Ronald, did you steal Ted’s booze as they brought him in to the hospital? Are you likkeerreed up LOL

    Seriously, he’ll be alright. Now they are saying it’s “just” a seizure.

  151. But, what is causing the seizure? This could be an indication of something more serious, as well as a reaction to medication. There are a myriad of causes for a seizure.

  152. I think he finally discovered how big of a mistake Obama is for the democratic party and he became distresses, and had a seizure.

  153. Im like Idunn without coffee…

    what happened to Idunn anyways? Im going to get a cup and start calling OR.

  154. he’s had carotid artery surgery. seriously, it’s obvious by looking at him that he was not taking seriously that weight is one of the biggest causes of many health problems. It’s not like he doesn’t have THE best health care in the US and a myriad of wealth to go with it. Dropping 125 pounds would have made him much healthier. Just saying . I wish I had his health care plan.

  155. Too much hopium maybe? Get well soon, Senator. Then go drop about 150, quit smoking, and give up the booze and save us taxpayers some $ to put towards UHC for those of us who can’t afford it.

    I’m sick of them touting he’s done more than anyone in history for health care .. he hasn’t.

  156. hallow Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
    1950democrat – I am reading nothing at all bad in that diary entry. Don’t know why they banned you. That seems like the general consensus of a lot of people on MyDD.

    THanks. What seems like the consensus? That McCain is a legitimate option, or that a lot of people are getting banned lately?

    Anyway I’m not going to waste more time on mydd. We do need a rallying point but mydd is not reliable, and too many bot flamers.

  157. shorttermer,

    welcome. i don’t think it’s possible for anyone except admin to post images or videos or anything except text in these blog comments.

  158. In the car and the dixie chicks come on the radio….perfect song for this situation….

    I’m not ready to make nice
    I’m not ready to back down
    I’m still mad as hell and I don’t have time to go round and round and round
    It’s too late to make it right, probably wouldn’t if I could

    I’m still as hell and I can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
    I’m not ready to make nice
    I’m not ready to back down

  159. Hi Ann,
    Did you call in for the conference call last night? any update you can share with us?

  160. Guys,

    I read a fascinating Politico article about the BO campaign discouraging their big donors away from contributing to outside democratic groups. Funny thing to me was his campaign hasn’t really included the big blogs in his “movement”. Even though most of them have endorsed his candidacy and carried water for him throughout the primary. Very good read: politico.com/news/stories/0508/10315

  161. Hello all!

    Thanks for making the clintondems.com site rock! Please remember to post action items, rallies, petitions, diaries, etc. over there…TONS OF TRAFFIC already…regular folks from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party are PISSED!!!

    Monkeybusiness, please post your action letters there. Any related videos, links, whatever will help us rally the troops and provide info for those wanting to help!

    Don’t despair if a comment doesn’t show up right away there…some are getting caught in the filter but they are getting approved.

  162. 1950democrat – I’m sorry for not being clear. I think it is a common thought at MyDD that they will support Hillary, or, if that is taken away from them, will give their support to McCain.

    I guess MyDD bans a lot of people who the moderators disagree with. The website is very pro-Hillary (with only a few ‘bama people, but they were often blasted pretty good by others).

    I guess they’ll probably ban everyone who says that there are options other than the Democratic Party.

  163. Hey, when I was in elementary school (in the deep south), we had this wacky week every school year where every day of that week had a theme to support school spirit…

    I remember there was Twin Day (where you and a friend dressed the same way to school) and Pajama Day (where you wore pajamas to school)…

    I also remember there being a day called “Bama Day” where you dressed like you were mentally disabled. You wore really misshapen, multicolor clothes, like you didn’t know how to dress yourself at all.

    I finally looked the word up today on “Urban Dictionary”:

    Popular definitions of “Bama”:

    # A slang, typically used in the D.C. metropolitan area, meaning uncool. It can also descrbe a person who is uncool.

    # a wack ass person is a busta every one in DC knows what this word means but its hard to put a definiton on it

    # one who is out of style ie fashion, speech, or behavior

    # Originated from Black youth in Washington DC. Original meaning was “cant dress well” or “fashion misfit”

    Sounds like O-Bama to me. What a funny coincidence.

    People from the D.C. area probably recognized this immediately. Don’t know why someone with a name which was pretty much a local word for loser did so well in D.C.

  164. HillBillyLover – Their e-mail boxes filled up and e-mails to them get bounced back. They said they were going to try to find more e-mail accounts. They may have also given a phone number contact…I’ll try to find it for you.

  165. Go get ’em, Hill! The media is no friend of ours, and we are no friends of theirs.

    Enjoy!!

    —————–

    From politico.com

    Hillary turns fire on media
    By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 5/17/08 6:29 AM EST

    PORTLAND, Ore. – Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign is increasingly aiming its punches not at her front-running opponent Barack Obama, but at the media.

    On the campaign trail, in a new ad and in her meetings with donors and superdelegates, she blasts the D.C. punditocracy for counting her out and urges anyone who’ll listen to ignore the hardening storyline that places Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee.

    The goal is twofold. Clinton, a New York senator, wants to stanch the flow of uncommitted superdelegates to Obama, an Illinois senator, by convincing them she can still win the nomination. She also wants to generate a protest vote in the four states that have yet to hold primaries, as well as in Puerto Rico.

    The Clinton camp believes a media backlash drove up turnout among her supporters in West Virginia, which last week delivered a landslide 67 percent to 26 percent victory for her.

    “Because I believe that I am better prepared to be president and I am more likely to be able to win, I don’t care what the pundits say. I’m going to leave it up to the voters,” Clinton said Friday night at a televised town hall meeting at Portland’s NBC affiliate. She said pundits have been counting her out “since Iowa and the voters always prove them wrong. I mean, I’ve been declared dead so many times and luckily it’s been premature and I’m hoping it stays premature.”

    Also on Friday, Clinton’s campaign began airing an ad in Oregon, which holds its primary Tuesday, that pits her against the Beltway media elites.

    The ad, titled “What’s Right,” shows video snippets of a cadre of television show hosts who have dismissed or downplayed Clinton’s chances – NBC’s Tim Russert, ABC’s George Stephanopoulos and MSNBC anchors Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews.

    Their voices are muted, and a narrator intones over their images: “In Washington, they talk about who’s up and who’s down. In Oregon, we care about what’s right and what’s wrong.”

    The spot goes on to tout Clinton’s support for universal health care and her opposition to “No Child Left Behind” and the Bush administration energy plan.

    The late placement of the ad in Oregon is somewhat curious, since Obama is favored to win the state handily and since the state administers its elections by mail. By some estimates, as much as 60 percent of Democratic primary ballots have already been cast.

    But the Clinton campaign believes the message will resonate broadly.

    “People in the upcoming states don’t want to be told that their voices don’t count and essentially that’s what they’re being told,” said Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee. “Well, the people of West Virginia didn’t believe that and they sent a very strong message.”

    He added: “Every time in this campaign that people have tried to call this race prematurely, the voters have rallied and sent a different message. We saw it after Iowa. We saw it after South Carolina.”

    Clinton has long complained that the media have treated her more roughly than Obama. But the campaign began courting a media backlash as a central strategy after her surprisingly narrow win in Indiana and crushing loss in North Carolina, which together were characterized by the press as sealing the Democratic presidential nomination for Obama.

    Campaign aides were particularly livid at Russert’s election night declaration on MSNBC that, “We now know who the Democratic nominee is going to be, and no one is going to dispute it” – even before the network called Indiana for Clinton.

    Clinton’s anti-media ad may tap a vein of distrust of the D.C. establishment that runs deep in the Pacific Northwest, thanks to its geographic and cultural distance from the East Coast, said Tim Hibbitts, a Portland-based pollster.

    But he sees another strategic motivation behind the ad.

    “This may be as much about men as it is about D.C.” or the media, he said, pointing out that all the pundits featured in the ad are men. Polls in Oregon, including one last week by Hibbitt’s firm, have shown Obama leading Clinton among female voters, an important part of her base.

    The ad – and the anti-media message – may be an effort to shore up female support, asserted Hibbitts.

    “It’s a resentment ploy, basically,” he said. “That all the big boys are trying to push Hillary out of the race, that she’s been treated unfairly by the Russerts and the Stephanopouloses.”

    That message, he said, unquestionably “appeals to a certain slice of the electorate out here – particularly among older women.”

    The campaign also on Friday began airing two ads in Kentucky, which also votes Tuesday and which she is expected to win, designed to reach another key part of Clinton’s base: blue-collar voters.

    The ads present Clinton as a crusading populist who will put the needs of struggling working people over those of “the wealthy and the well connected” and who will end special interest loopholes and cut working families’ taxes.

    “It is wrong that a Wall Street money manager making $50 million dollars a year pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than a nurse or a teacher or a truck driver or an auto worker making $50,000,” she says in one Kentucky ad.

    Taken together, the three ads illustrate the nearly 180-degree pivot Clinton’s campaign has made since she entered the race early last year as the overwhelming favorite to secure the Democratic nomination.

    Back then, she criticized the anti-corporate, anti-special interest rhetoric of her chief rivals Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards as overly simplistic. She pledged to work with all sides to forge compromises. And her campaign encouraged media characterizations of her as the inevitable nominee.

  166. From that article:

    “This may be as much about men as it is about D.C.” or the media, [a Portland-based pollster] said, pointing out that all the pundits featured in the ad are men.

    That is so true. So true.

  167. Fmr. President Clinton Stumps For Wife

    Posted: May 17, 2008 11:56 AM PDT

    PADUCAH, KY (AP) – Bill Clinton, in a second day of campaign stops in Kentucky for his wife before Tuesday’s primary election, continued to urge voters to look past the condemnations of her campaign as a failed effort. Sen. Hillary Clinton can win the nomination, the former president told thousands on Friday at rallies in a fire station parking lot in Madisonville, a gymnasium at Kentucky Wesleyan College and a Paducah convention center.

    Bill Clinton also stressed Kentucky could be a linchpin in the presidential primary season. “If someone tells you you can’t win, it’s because you can and they’re afraid you will,” Clinton said to cheers at Kentucky Wesleyan in Owensboro.

    Results from a media poll released earlier this week show Hillary Clinton with a 27 percentage-point lead in Kentucky over Obama. Hillary Clinton has won the endorsement of three of Kentucky’s Democratic superdelegates. Obama has been endorsed by two, both Democratic congressmen representing the state’s two largest cities. Three other superdelegates remain undecided.

    http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=8341047&nav=EQlp

  168. From my post on MYDD:
    Another Obama elitism or does he need a lesson in geography?

    Obama conceded that he has a steep challenge to get his message and background to voters in states such as Kentucky — where he trails Sen. Hillary Clinton by 27 points, according to a poll published earlier this week — and West Virginia, where voters chose Clinton over Obama by 40 points on Tuesday.

    “What it says is that I’m not very well known in that part of the country,” Obama said. “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

    mcclatchydc.com/254/story/373 88.html

    Southern Illinois shares a border with Kentucky where as Arkansas does not. Check any US map you want. Obviously Sen. Obama does not think that southern Illinois is a part of Illinois. I guess another elitist attitude.

    Sen. Obama why are you trailing Sen Clinton in your neighbouring state?

    Why are you giving excuses that make no sense?

  169. Do any of you ever visit the Elections section of the Yahoo! Answers page?

    Link is here:
    answers.yahoo.com/dir/;_ylt=AlPvivlZ5vUiVcgC79EWh2zS7BR.;_ylv=3?link=list&sid=396547134

    Most of the questions are VERY anti-Obama. Much more anti-Obama than we’re allowed to talk about here. It’s great! Some of the titles make me laugh out loud (although it is often a guilty laughter).

    If you’re bored today and you have a Yahoo! account, go ahead and read the hilarious anti-BHO ones and give them a “star” so that they’re more highly rated.

    Rank the anti-Hillary messages down. There aren’t all that many of them there, though. That place is VERY anti-Obama.

    It’s only if you can stand a lot of anger, though. This place is a peacetime paradise in comparison to there.

  170. By the way, that Yahoo! Answers page is where I first heard about Rezko…many months ago before I found this site. Also, I heard about Sinclair there.

  171. Former President Bill Clinton Campaigns For Hillary In Paducah
    (WKYX) Former President Bill Clinton said Hillary Clinton can still win the Democratic nomination for President and the nation’s highest office. During a stop in Paducah on Friday, he told the crowd that those who say her effort is a mute point are trying to convince her and her supporters that she can’t win because she can and they’re afraid she will. Bill Clinton stressed Kentucky could be a linchpin in the presidential primary season. (posted 3:14 pm)

    http://www.wkyx.com/local-news-details.asp?NewsID=6031

  172. Obama is a WEAK POTUS candidate, if the democrats believe Obama support is that strong why are they controling the MSM and helping him out.

    Obama should been able to put Hillary Clinton away by his soaring rhetoric alone……..that’s what the propanda told us BUT a little thing like experience you and your family can rely on, a solid grasp of foreign policy that you and your country can rely on.

    The machinatiions of the DNC and others is not going to be by your side with you make decisions effecting the people of this country. And all Obama says is HOPE AND CHANGE.

    HE Has NEVER sacrifice for his country but has nothing to say to those who has. He keep company the the Willam Ayes and his ilks…know and proud Anti-Americans how planned to bomb servicemen and their love ones while they held a dance.

    So NO I’m not voting for Obama.

  173. from hillary web site comment,

    It has just been announced that Obama on Tuesday evening will be having a rally in Iowa where it all stated to lay a symbolic claim to the presidential nomination. Just goes to show how arrogant he his and totally disrespects all the people who still need to vote and for Michigan and Florida to have their votes counted. This is ridiculous…

    by Douglas Ruark at 5/17/2008 3:57:22 PM

  174. meiyingsu-

    WHAT?!

    We need to send protestors there stat! Anybody here from IOWA or a closeby state!? Please?

  175. I would be nice if in Iowa no one showed up, but then I guess they could bus them in and pay them to come.

    Sorry, but I was in Iowa, and know he bussed in the Students. I am sure they got something for that.

  176. MSM CONTINUES “CLINTON DEATH MARCH”

    NYTimes article today was so dreadfully biased, that it’s not even worth pointing to. The main sping is that she’s running out of options, gasping for “oxygen”, and a dispirited candidate is relegated to holding small house meetings in one of the red states. At least she’s campaigning. They mention her 16 hour days. Better than Obama’s lackluster effort.

    And here, CNN cannot help but paint the only the bleakest scenario:

    May 17, 2008
    Florida, Michigan cannot save Clinton
    Posted: 12:30 PM ET

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/17/florida-michigan-cannot-save-clinton/

    Excerpted text follows (with my comments indicated with $$$):

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Michigan and Florida alone can’t save Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign.

    Interviews with those considering how to handle the two states’ banished convention delegates found little interest in the former first lady’s best-case scenario. Her position, part of a formidable
    comeback challenge, is that all the delegates be seated in accordance with their disputed primaries.

    Even if they were, it wouldn’t erase Barack Obama’s growing lead in delegates.

    &&& So Obama’s small lead of 160ish delegates, which has shrunk as far as committed delegates, and will continue to shrink through June 3rd (offset only by chickenshit SDs, who can’t vote until August, and who can change their minds), this is what they call ‘”growing”? For a candidate who they paint as surging to victory, why iis he projected to lose upcoming primaries, some of them quite badly… and perhaps squeak by in a couple?

    Last year, the panel imposed the harshest punishment it could render against the two states after they scheduled primaries in January, even though they were instructed not to vote until Feb. 5
    or later. Michigan and Florida lost all their delegates to the national convention, and all the Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in the two states, stripping them of all the influence they were trying to build by voting early.

    $$$ No mention of the zero punishment for the four other early jumper states.

    But now there is agreement on all sides that at least some of the delegates should be restored in a gesture of party unity and respect to voters in two general election battlegrounds.

    $$$ Isn’t that sooo gentlemanly of them to cast us a couple of delegate scraps. Ah do declare.

    Clinton has been arguing for full reinstatement, which would boost her standing. She won both states, even though they didn’t count toward the nomination and neither candidate campaigned in them. Obama even had his name pulled from Michigan’s ballot.

    $$$ There, you CNN bastards said it. He pulled his name off. So how does he get 59 delegates? How many of those non-Clinton abstain votes were for others, like Edwards? Since we don’t know, we just can’t give them to Obama. That’s called vote-stealing.

    The Associated Press interviewed a third of the panel members and several other Democrats involved in the negotiations and found widespread agreement that the states must be punished for stepping out of line. If not, many members say, other states will do the same thing in four years.

    $$$ Again, if it was such a good idea to punish these two states, why not punish all the jumpers? And if the rules state 50% punishment, why the nuclear option? And why screw over two important battleground states??

    “We certainly want to be fair to both candidates, and we want to be sure that we are fair to the 48 states who abided by the rules,” said Democratic National Committee Secretary Alice
    Germond, a panel member unaligned with either candidate. “We don’t want absolute chaos for 2012.

    $$$ Another selective-memory moment. And by the way, you fuckheads are going to get chaos, from here all the way into the indefinite future. You screw over the core of your base, see how easy it is to move around when your spine leaves the body.

    “We want to reach out to Michigan and Florida and seat some group of delegates in some manner, at least most of us do.

    $$$ Obama is not one of them. But he’s not against them coming into the convention hall and providing them chairs to sit on.

    These are two critical states for the general (election) and the voters of those states who were not the people who caused this awful conundrum to occur deserve our attention and deserve to be a part of our process and deserve to be at the convention,” she said.

    Because Obama is in the lead for the nomination, his camp heads into the meeting in a position of strength. It is possible the Illinois senator could clinch the nomination by the time the panel meets if he picks up the pace of superdelegate endorsements in the coming weeks.

    $$$ So CNN doesn’t have something scathing to say, about a candidate declaring victory, while the goal posts are still moving? And clinching it using SDs in the mix, who may have pledges, but can change their minds?

    But Obama has such a lead that he may be able to afford to be generous and give Clinton most of the delegates.

    $$$ Obama’s lead is so small that he’ll be forced to fight it out in Denver. No amount of media brainwashing can change the fundamental math, if the rules are not going to be overlooked.

    That would help put the issue behind them and help him build goodwill in Michigan and Florida heading into the November election.

    $$$ I can imagine how much “good will” there is now, and will be, from MI and FL towards Mr. Votestealer.

    Still, some think the fairest solution is to disregard the primary votes and split the delegations evenly between the two candidates.

    $$$ So it’s okay to steal votes. Sure, great idea.

    It’s also possible that any vote that recognizes the Michigan and Florida results would legitimize their elections. Clinton has been arguing that she leads in the popular vote, but that’s only when both states are included and it is very slim — fewer than 5,000 votes out of 34 million cast.

    $$$ Seating the delegates is under dispute. But the primary votes that Clinton got are hard numbers. Obama would have more than zero votes from MI if he would have left his name on the ballot. His stupid move.

    Her accounting also doesn’t include some caucus states that favored Obama and where the popular vote wasn’t tallied.

    $$$ Caucus “popular votes” are nearly impossible to discern.

    Obama climbed to 1,904 on Friday, according to The Associated Press count. Clinton has 1,719 delegates and is trying to use the popular vote argument to win over more.

    Fourteen of Clinton’s Hispanic supporters in Congress sent a letter to the Rules and Bylaws Committee Friday arguing that disregarding the votes cast by Hispanics, 12 percent of the primary vote in Florida, could damage the nominee.

    $$$ Damn straight.

    So far, Obama’s campaign has not been giving direction publicly or privately to panel members. The Clinton campaign’s official position has been full reinstatement, but her advisers acknowledge
    they are considering an idea before the panel to seat the delegates with half a vote each. Clinton campaign Chairman Terry McAuliffe said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that they “certainly might” accept a compromise to seat half the delegates.

    If their elections had been held according to party rules, Michigan and Florida would have allocated a total of 313 pledged delegates based on the outcome of the vote. Using the results of the January elections with no votes for Obama from Michigan, Clinton would get 178 to Obama’s 67, giving her a 111-vote advantage. As of Friday, she was behind 185 delegates, so that would not catch her up even under that unlikely scenario.

    The plans before the committee will be more generous to Obama.

    $$$ So, they’re going to try to put in the FIX.

    The Michigan Democratic Party has proposed giving 69 of its 128 delegates to Clinton and 59 to Obama, an advantage of 10 delegates for Clinton.

    A proposal from Florida would halve its 185 delegates. From that, Clinton would get 52.5 and Obama 33.5, a 19-delegate advantage for Clinton.

    An open question is how to handle the other type of delegates each state lost — the superdelegates who are party leaders not bound by the outcome of the vote and are free to support whatever candidate they personally choose. Michigan has 29 superdelegates, and Florida 26. A total of nine have declared for Obama, 15 for Clinton and the rest are undeclared.

    $$$ I believe the DNC rules for depriving delegates does not include SDs. And the SDs in those two states are probably not happy w/ BO.

  177. # meiyingsu Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    It has just been announced that Obama on Tuesday evening will be having a rally in Iowa where it all stated to lay a symbolic claim to the presidential nomination. Just goes to show how arrogant he his and totally disrespects all the people who still need to vote and for Michigan and Florida to have their votes counted. This is ridiculous…
    ******************

    NO DOUBT……it will be on the illinoise border so that he can call in all his IL goons to make it look like iowa still supports him LOL! what a FAKE!!

  178. If we have learned anything in this, it is that you cannot trust the SDs to do anything but for themselves. So I am not sure if I feel that MI and FL SDs will do nothing more than put their noses you know where.

    Sorry, but SDs cannot be counted on like the voters.

  179. I thought it was illegal to declare a winner before the last polls closed. I guess that is not true in Primaries. But then, I wonder if that rule (which I think restricts the Media), is written that strickly, and if the Media, if they cover might be in violation of that rule.

    Does anyone know?

  180. HillBillyLover Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    Does someone have contact info for that new group that had the women on Fox the other day?

    I’m looking for it too. I’ve got two pages up for contacts from such groups, petitions, etc. The one where anyone can post info as a comment is h t t p : / / 1950democrat.livejournal.com No regsitration needed. The other is
    h t t p : / / http://www.ironmyvote.com/mccain.htm

  181. rgb44hrc Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    “screw over the core of your base, see how easy it is to move around when your spine leaves the body.”

    I especially LOVE this line made me nod my head YES and let out a LOL !!!

  182. # meiyingsu Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    It has just been announced that Obama on Tuesday evening will be having a rally in Iowa where it all stated to lay a symbolic claim to the presidential nomination. Just goes to show how arrogant he his and totally disrespects all the people who still need to vote and for Michigan and Florida to have their votes counted.

    michelle-o-bama is measuring drapes as we speak…WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

  183. Things to think about:
    -Do I remember Donna Brazile stating to Begala that it is not about winning the general election, it is all about expanding the base of the NEW coalition?Someone just pointed out to me that may just be their strategy and this person did not know what Brazile said. What does this mean in our advance for Hillary- are there ways to counter this?
    -If there are military people who know about strategy, perhaps we could learn a thing or two from them that would apply to helping her win the nomination.
    -go to the Library of Congress, or Google “Night of Terror” and read about the women’s groups then, how about starting a new women’s group (not the NOW) and replicate the parts that worked for them.This would provide any strong woman candidate in the future with a support team-and a deterrent for misogyny.

    What are your thoughts?

  184. This is a great article for Hillary from oregon!
    journalists email below…..feel free to send him some love!
    and leave your comment on this article too!!

    blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/05/clintonmayvisit.html

    Obama moves to Oregon stage as Clinton exits
    Posted by The Oregonian May 17, 2008 06:40AM
    Categories: Elections, Politics
    Barack Obama arrives for his own Oregon tour on the eve of Tuesday’s primary.

    The Illinois senator visits Roseburg today before public stops in Portland and Pendleton on Sunday, including a Sunday rally on Portland’s riverfront. Doors open at 12:30 p.m.

    Hillary Clinton traveled from a Willamette Valley family’s dining room table to a television studio in Portland Friday as she made what was likely her last direct appeal to Oregon voters before ballots are counted in Tuesday’s primary.

    The New York senator took some big pokes at oil companies and Republican Sen. John McCain — and a few smaller ones at her Democratic opponent, as she declared that predictions of her candidacy’s demise have “always been premature, and I hope it stays premature.”

    One of Obama’s events is a rally on Portland’s waterfront, but Clinton gave up the crowds for the day as she focused on a pair of made-for-media forums that gave her a chance to speak at length on issues such as the war, health care and energy.

    She began the day in Junction City speaking around the dining table to a family worried about the shaky economy and rising gas prices. In the evening, she had a free hour of TV time when KGW (8) hosted a town hall with some 100 undecided Democratic voters. She then left to campaign today in Kentucky, which — unlike Oregon — polls show she is likely to win.

    Answering viewer questions, Clinton scored McCain, of Arizona, for suggesting that American troops would be largely home from Iraq by 2013 if he became president. She complained that his statement was not based on “any realistic assessment, nor was it based on any policy. It was an assertion. … It’s just more of the same.”

    She insisted her health care plan is better than Obama’s because it would cover everyone, but she didn’t dwell on the difference as she has at times earlier in the campaign. Some of her toughest language was reserved for oil companies, which she said have to be “reined in” because they are “all powerful” and “have too much control over our economy.”

    Unusual campaign stop
    Earlier in the day, Clinton visited a home construction site in Junction City, then took a seat at the dining table at the house next door.

    If she were president, she would freeze adjustable mortgage rates to prevent foreclosures, she said. She would set up a $30 billion federal fund to aid homeowners about to lose their homes, and she would get federal home loan programs to loosen credit to help goose the market. President Bush, she said, has turned his back on troubled homeowners.

    It was an unusual event by modern campaign standards. The motorcade, complete with motorcycle cops and national press bus, rolled into an all but silent neighborhood of green lawns, new streets and a mix of finished and partially complete homes. A few curious onlookers watched as Clinton, wearing an orange-and-rust pantsuit, got out of a gray Suburban and had a brief conversation with Eugene homebuilder Mike Gansen.

    Clinton heard economic concerns from Sandy and Marvin Mehlbrech, whose dining room served as the backdrop for Friday’s event. It was a cozy, relaxed setting, if you could ignore the press of cameras and reporters that jammed the Mehlbrechs’ living room.

    The Mehlbrechs, who recently moved from Tualatin, told Clinton they’re retired and living on a fixed income. They said they bought the house as an investment that might later help pay for assisted living.

    But with home prices on the decline, they’re worried. They also had hoped to travel more but have been stymied by the cost.

    “We can’t pay $4 a gallon for gas, so we just kind of hang around here,” Marvin Mehlbrech said.

    “Shady” oil practices
    Clinton blamed Bush’s inaction. She said higher gas prices are the result of market manipulation by oil traders and speculators, who could be brought to heel by the White House, working with Congress. She said “shady” trading practices have added $20 to $50 to the cost of a barrel of oil.

    Bush’s response, she said, has been “to sip tea” with Saudi officials and implore them to produce more oil.

    She said if she were president, she would launch an investigation into oil prices, much like the one that exposed fraudulent practices by Enron. She also said she would pursue a windfall profit tax on oil companies and use the money to pay for a temporary suspension of the 18.4-cent-a-gallon federal gas tax.

    She said the “gas tax holiday” would save the average family about $70 over the course of the summer, a number some analysts have questioned. She also said truckers would save much more.

    Clinton told the TV audience that her long-term goal was to develop alternative sources of energy and to invest more in high-speed rail and urban mass transit.

    “You’ve got a great system here, but so many places in the country don’t,” said Clinton, arguing that Americans can’t continue to rely so heavily on automobile travel.

    KGW had invited Obama to appear as well, but he declined. Clinton said she had hoped to have a series of debates with him in the remaining primary states but “that wasn’t to be.”

    Undecided voters
    Obama campaign manager David Plouffe told reporters in a conference call earlier in the day that Obama is “in a strong position in Oregon,” but he declined to predict victory. Clinton is competing “fiercely,” he said, noting that she has begun airing a new television ad here and that former President Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea, will campaign today and Sunday in several Oregon cities.

    An Obama win in Oregon would be a “giant leap toward the nomination,” said Plouffe. The Obama campaign expects to have a majority of the pledged delegates after Tuesday, which Plouffe argues is the best measure of voter sentiment. But Obama would still have to pick up support from unpledged superdelegates to win a majority and secure the nomination.

    For her part, Clinton argued Friday that she has won a majority of the popular vote over the primary season. Obama officials say it is not fair to count Florida and Michigan, which were stripped of their delegates for holding early primaries and where the candidates didn’t campaign. Obama also removed his name from the Michigan ballot.

    Clinton’s hourlong town hall did net her some undecided voters in Portland.

    Jennifer Hildrich, 50, of Portland said she was torn between “the outsider talking about change and a new day” and “the savvy political insight of someone who will get something done.”

    Hildrich said Clinton impressed her with her detailed plans for addressing major issues. Then Clinton closed the deal for Hildrich when she implored voters to consider who would be the most effective president on day one.

    Judee Jacoby, 64, of Damascus said she too showed up at the town hall meeting on the fence over whether to back Obama or Clinton.

    By meeting’s end, she was firmly in Clinton’s camp.

    “I like her views on health care and on education,” she said. “I just feel she is very personable and warm, someone an average American like me can relate to.”

    — Harry Esteve and Bill Graves of The Oregonian; harryesteve@news.oregonian.com

  185. Djia – I’m not certain if the words from “Dreams” are supposed to be those of Bambi himself or that of “Frank.” To me, they sound like the words of the guy who clinically described ‘bitter’ small-town Americans and discussed how the reaction of his ‘typical white person’ grandma has been bred (yes, BRED) into her. Let’s take a look at the passage:

    (from the “updated” paperback version, p. 203):

    “Black politicians less gifted than Harold discovered what white politicians had known for a very long time: that race-baiting could make up for a host of limitations. Younger leaders, eager to make a name for themselves, upped the ante, peddling conspiracy theories all over town – the Koreans were funding the Klan, Jewish doctors were injecting black babies with the AIDS virus. It was a shortcut to fame, if not always fortune; like sex or violence on TV, black rage always found a ready market.”

    decision08.net/2008/03/16/lets-put-a-fork-in-this-one/

    Ok, so in this passage their is the assessment of the Chicago racial/political landscape.

    Now, on the one hand, it is irrelevant if Obama or “Frank” said these words. The bottom line is that Bambi — ready to run for election — is giving them voice in his book. However, when you realize that so much of “Dreams” is filled with lies (people whom Barry is known to have been referring to with certain characters have come out and flatly denied that they made the comments on race Barry says they did), mistruths and provocative race-baiting aimed squarely at winning over the voters in Bambi’s senatorial district, all of the racial hyperbole in the tome makes far, far more sense. If I recall correctly, Bambi’s district was the locale of Farrakhan’s mansion. That gives you a sense at who is being pandered to in “Dreams.”

    And as the author writes in that same quoted paragraph, black rage always found a ready market.

    Enter Doug Wilder and James Clyburn, etc.

    Without having looked at the book, I would be very surprised if the sentiments expressed in the quoted passage were not those of Bambi. As mentioned, Barry has no problem assigning people words who never uttered them, so he could as easily do the reverse and say that something he feels is really only the opinion of someone else.

    In total, “Dreams” is an out and out pander to the NOI set. It is a joke, like Bambi himself. Coulter compared it to Mein Kampf and she is not far off because both tracts are completely consumed with race.

    *

    Now, back to “Frank,” the man who may have made the above statement (or may have been pinned with saying it by Bambi even if Frank never said anything like it). In looking this person up, we come upon ANOTHER of Bambi’s un-American influences.

    However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”

    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

    Frank is also said to have made statements such as feeling that his feet problems were the result of something along the lines of African feet being dragged onto an American shore, or some such drivel.

    It is hard for me to believe that such an extreme figure would be detachedly discussing how “black rage always found a ready market.” Again, those sound more like the words of a student of ‘bitter’-ness, etc.

    To me, personally, this is pretty simple. Chicago (as well as other Midwestern cities like Detroit {see the farcical Kilpatricks as evidence} is a breeding ground for race-peddlers such as Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan, Wright, etc. Bambi (and Axelrod) learned his lessons well, and when it was time to smear the Clintons as being ‘racists’ and to whip up black rage, these Zippys knew what to do. Have a Black Belt state primary coming up? Time to wheel out idiots like Wilder, Clyburn, Amaya Smith, etc. It’s a very basic formula.

    *

    Lin — I have to think/look up more about the banees from MyDD/Kos/etc. Off the top of my head I can recall Bud White and Seymour Glass both being banned from MyDD. Seymour went on to use other names and was, I think, banned again and for no reason. As we both know, there are many, many more casualties from both sites. I have written down more names but would have to look them up to say more. Yourself and TexasDarlin both were banned during the Singerian Purge, I recall that. Thankfully Jerome Armstrong stepped in and rectified those travesties.

    Someone else mentioned MyDD (and D Kos) as well, so let me just say one thing about those sites:

    Both sites have people HIGHLY vested in the outcome of this election. Kos, J. Singer, etc. are both so far out on a limb with Bambi that if and when he loses, they are both in line to take major hits to their reps. And on the converse, if Ofraudma were to win, it could be parlayed (or so the thinking goes) into real career advancement for such persons.

    This is why I — and many others — were banned at both sites, because Kos, Singer and others knew we wasn’t going to fall in line with the “Dem (i.e., the admins’ personal career) Agenda(s).” It’s one thing to allow intimidated, easily-browbeaten opponents in your midst, it’s totally different to allow people such as Bud, linfar, TexasDarlin, myself, Seymour and other similar figures to stay around and regularly humiliate yourself, your bogus positions and expose your candidate for the joke he is.

    So you do what Singer and the others did: You come up with aluminum tubes-type pretexts and you start your Night of the Long Knives purges. Then you go out and try to pretend like nothing happened and hope like crazy that your flock isn’t looking too hard at your lack of clothing.

    It’s all very Pravda-ian. And not surprising. As I and others have said for months, this is how leftist Stalinist movements get started. Just like this.

    One final thing on MyDD. Jerome Armsrtong is a good, talented guy. The problem for him and the site is that there is a Grand Canyon-like dropoff from Jerome’s work to those of his fellow admins and front pagers. It’s kind of like if when Bill Gates was running Microsoft every now and then he decided to turn the reins over to some cadre of local garbagemen he just rounded-up on a whim. So when Jerome’s away, the site goes from a must-read to something you would be ashamed to say your 5 year old edited. The largest of the Clinton Supporters Purges took place when Jerome was traveling in Israel. That is not a coincidence.

    *

    All kidding aside, my thoughts are with Ted Kennedy and his family. Yes, many of the Kennedy Clan have been a bunch of whiny, “Camelot is being replaced by the Arkansians – no!!” children this season, but you still have to have class when a person is ill, even if he is your opponent. Remember, we are not Obama supporters.

    1950’s Dem: I don’t know of any such link lists for anti-Obama/pro-Mac sites and organizations. This is exactly the kind of thing which we need to get taken care of so that all of we non-Obama supporters can have something like a one-stop shopping center for such a list. Sounds like you’ve managed to find yourself a good project. 😉

    Admin’s linking to Women Count Too is probably one of, if not the, first such links and attempts to unify our number. As usual, Big Pink leads the pack.

    *

    Couple of other topics:

    Russert:

    Tim Russert — the stooping sack of crap from Buffalo many know as “Lil (Bitch) Rus,” and his wife Maureen Orth, hate the Clintons, and have for a long time. If you want a quick snapshot of that hatred, see this piece:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/socialDC200712?printable=true&currentPage=all

    Maureen Orth doesn’t give a sh*t about the cake-eating peasants who make up the electorate. She cares about far more important things, such as the glam quotient of DC. For those who don’t know, you cannot imagine the level of animosity that the elitist Georgetown set has for the Clintons. The Clintons are seen as some kind of bumpkin-esque anomaly that must never again stain DC and the DC snobs’ sense of self-worth. This psychotic list of priorities (making the DC snobs feel good about themselves > working for the American people) is at the core of much of the MSM’s hatred of the Clintons. It’s converse, having a GQ-wannabe affirmative action candidate whose wife went and bought some white mink when the couple made some coin, is also why so much of the media is in the tank for Bambi. Yes, we are still in high school; it really is this trite and pathetic.

    I would imagine Lil Bitch Rus was someone who had to listen to his glam-focused wife rant about the Clintonian Bumpkins ad nauseum, and whose being p-whipped by same at some point just kind of natually started to manifest in stoop-boy’s own rants against the Clintons. And here we are.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski and Obama: As tempting as it is to say that the worst thing Zbigniew ever did was to foist his hack daughter Mika on all of us, the truth is far worse than that.

    ZB is directly responsible for the rise of Osama bin Laden. And I’m not making that up, just go do a little research on ZB’s history, specifically as regards the Carter Administration.

    However, the most nefarious of ZB’s associations is his being a founding member of the Trilateral Commission:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission

    The Trilateral Commission is the very real entity that is the source of angst for the “One World Government” crowd. Except that in this instance, they are justified in their fears. All of the stories about The Illuminati, all the Da Vinci Code conspiracies, all of the stuff which surrounds Skull and Bones is embodied in the Trilateral Commission. And it is a real entity.

    I haven’t had the time to dig into it this primary season, but it is important for people to understand that Bambi is little more than a properly-melanined, pliable frontman for some enormously powerful, multi-national interests. GE, as you’ve heard, is in on this. So are very formidable British interests. Go and look up some of the boards which Mish sits on and you’ll see the dots being connected.

    The amount of money which Bambi has been raised is not an accident, and it isn’t about donors in West Virginia helping the cause, either.

    I don’t want to sound too ominous here, but there is a lot more going on than people know with Bambi and the forces that are propping him up. In conducting the research which I have for months, you get hints of it but the inescapable conclusion is that there is much, much more going on then will see the light of day. There is a reason why Judicial Watch — which hates the Clintons — has said that Obama has gone out of his way while in the US Senate no to leave a paper trail. He is dirty, and he is a ‘stooge’ with a capital “S.”

    All pols save for the most wealthy (Corzine, Bloomberg, …) have these kinds of ties. It’s part of the thing that drives pols into political life. But there are differences among them and varying levels being bought and paid for. Obama is in a class by himself here, particularly as regards presidential aspirants who have come this close to the White House in recent memory.

    The Bambi power players in Boston and Chicago know that word is getting out about Sinclair’s boy-toy and his almost-incomprehensible failings. These elites are concerned, deeply. I see it constantly in the hits on my own site and the IP’s attached to them. These elites can see their quest for power going down the drain right before their eyes.

    Our goal is to help expedite that process, to cause the next Sam “Obsessed, Monster” Powers implosion. When you see something like this — or the meltdown the Obama cabal had over Bush’s remarks concerning Carter the other day — you know you’ve found the mark.

    ‘Revenge Bitches’:

    I am a revenge bitch.

    What that means is this: If you unjustly smear my candidate, seek to destroy my party and do so while concomitantly calling anyone within eyesight racists and gleefully kick me and others off of tanked-out blogs and media outlets, you better make sure you are well-stocked on shields, because there isn’t anywhere your Josef Mengele ass can go to escape my quest for justice. And this is how most of us feel.

    You clowns — and I know you’re reading this — actually believed that we were just going to roll over for you, do the whole “Please sir, may I have another?” routine. Go all Vichy France.

    No.

    Speaking for myself and my family here, we don’t operate like that. As I said to someone recently, we follow the hydra model — if you cut off one head then you will soon be faced with two.

    How that works in a practical sense is if you kick me off of one blog, then I will seek your demise on both another blog as well as with a series of YouTube videos, etc. Like you guys’ attempt to sway working-class white voters by telling them they’re racists, the harder you work to try to intimidate people such as myself the more punishment you are going to receive on the back end.

    You ObamaThugs have made your bed, and we Clinton backers are going to make sure you lie in it, so to speak. And there isn’t anything you can do about it except start making plans to not cross that line the next time you run a candidate.

    The timing of the Women Count Too and the Down With Obama movements and organizations being started now is not an accident. We are massing for the general election campaign, AKA “the extended primary.” Yes, all those tanks you see on the Kuwaiti border are real.

    Enjoy. You earned it.

    And when you fall, as you will fall, do not look to us for solace. You took the fight to the gutter and now you’re going to be lain to rest in that same gutter. Nothing personal, just business and payback.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  186. I wonder if any of those Obama Supporters in Iowa in Jan have changed their minds since the Wright and other stuff.

    It might be nice if they picketted the celebration.

    Yes, it is interesting that they have moved the celebration from Oregon to Iowa. However, I am not sure if it truely means anything.

  187. I’m a new poster. Just found out about you on the Salon site. Talk about misogyny and racism! Now that I’ve found my niche, no need to bother posting to support Hillary there.
    I campaigned for RFK in ’68. Even without hearing the full interview, I understood what she was saying. Thanks for posting it in it’s entirety.

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