West Virginia Elects Presidents

The Math: It was a whomping win in a swing state won by successful Democratic nominees in general elections since 1916. With 93% of the West Virginia vote in Hillary has humiliated Obama with a margin of over 40% of the vote. Obama outspent Hillary. Hillary outworked Obama. Obama hid tonight from the voters – again.

Together, we have won millions and millions of votes – by the time tonight is over, probably 17 million, close to it. We’ve won them in states that we must be prepared and ready to win in November – Pennsylvania and Ohio, Arkansas and New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Nevada, Michigan, Florida, and now West Virginia. It is a fact that no Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia.

The bottom line is this – the White House is won in the swing states and I am winning the swing states. And we have done it by standing up for the deepest principles of our party with a vision for an America that rewards hard work again, that values the middle class and helps to make it stronger.

Big Media and Big Media tool Barack Obama lost big tonight. Thank you voters of West Virginia. Thanks also to the voters in Nebraska who gave Hillary a close loss.

Hillary Clinton made a point tonight in support of the voters of Florida and Michigan.

The Florida and Michigan votes must be counted as they were voted. On to Denver.

Politico, before the votes in West Virginia came in: Here are five indicators that the pros will be watching:

1) How goes Mason County? In 1988 and 2000 — the most recent elections with no incumbent president on the ballot — the county of less than 30,000 residents on the Ohio border was within 5 percentage points of the actual statewide primary results.

Actual results for Mason county: Hillary 72.43%, Obama 18.65%, Edwards 8.92%

2) The Edwards protest vote. John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator who ended his Democratic presidential campaign in January, remains on the ballot in West Virginia. And he polled at 4 percent in the Suffolk poll, popular primarily with men and independents.

If Edwards gets that much of the vote or more, it could add to the night’s woes for Obama and presage problems for him in a general election matchup with McCain, particularly in rural states such as West Virginia.

With 92% of the vote in: Edwards 7%

“There are people who for some reason won’t vote for Obama,” said David Paleologos, who directed the Suffolk poll. Edwards’ poll showing, combined with Obama’s relatively low favorability numbers (44 percent favorable and 41 percent unfavorable, compared with Clinton’s 70 percent favorable and 21 percent unfavorable ratings) suggest to Paleologos that “Obama may have to write off West Virginia come November.”

The poll also found 40 percent of respondents would vote for the Democratic nominee if their preferred candidate lost, while 23 percent said they would cross the ballot to vote for McCain.

Third question:

3) Turnout in the southern coal fields, the northern panhandle and the Ohio River counties. These areas, home to some of the most unionized, blue-collar and economically distressed populations in the state, are Clinton country.

Hillary swamped the vote in every county in West Virginia.

4.) Television coverage. The Clinton campaign blames the Obama-as-inevitable story line partly on the saturation television coverage of last week’s huge Obama victory in North Carolina and unexpectedly narrow Clinton win in Indiana. Much of the analysis framed the night as a determinative moment in the campaign. Campaign aides were particularly peeved at Tim Russert’s declaration on MSNBC that “we now know who the Democratic nominee is going to be, and no one is going to dispute it” — even before the network called Indiana for Clinton.

All the Big Media bias is increasingly being turned off by the American people. West Virgina voters ignored Big Media. This was a major loss for Big Media and their tool Barack Obama.

5) Fundraising bounce. Clinton’s campaign has been outspent in nearly every state by Obama’s fundraising juggernaut, and the Clinton campaign acknowledged over the weekend it is $20 million in debt.

Only Hillary supporters can answer this question.

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More Politico:

West Viginians rejected the presumptive Democratic nominee by a roughly two-to-one margin, one of the widest margins of the primary season. The outcome was the predictable result of familiar demographics: West Virginia’s relatively poor white voters have been Hillary Rodham Clinton’s base since February.

In a stark rejection of Obama in a state Bill Clinton carried in 1992 and 1996, almost half of the Democratic primary voters — typically the most partisan Democrats in a state — said they’d vote for Republican John McCain rather than Obama in November.

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Hillary Clinton in an email tonight:

After tonight’s tremendous victory here in West Virginia, it’s clear that the pundits declaring this race over have it all wrong. The voters in West Virginia spoke loud and clear — they want this contest to go on.

I’m listening to the voters — and to you.

With your help, I’m going to carry the energy of tonight’s victory into the next contests in Kentucky and Oregon. And just as always, I’ll be depending on you to share every step of this journey with me. You have worked your heart out, put yourself on the line for what you believe in, and given generously. And I’m not about to turn my back on you.

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712 thoughts on “West Virginia Elects Presidents

  1. YEAH MOTHA FACKAS!!!!

    How SWEET it is!

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com
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    Where were you in ’08 when our first female President staged the greatest political comeback in modern history?

  2. *sigh* My Hillary looks so beautiful. The victory speech was awesome. She was definitely speaking to the SDs.

  3. RJK,

    Boy you called it. Looks like it will be right around the 146 you said.

    144 w/2% out now.

  4. Fucking Abrams, all he kind find to talk about is Hill as VP.

    READ THE SCOREBOARD YOU MOFO!

  5. wow hillary really does look gorgeous while she is the fabulous speaker ever … thats why i can understand her..and she has that expolsive engergy…she does no drifting no on and on no uhhs and huhhs ..uhhs..and she knows what she is talking about to the American people!!

  6. Repub talking heads really tarting to hammer BO’s ‘weakness’.

    Operative word right there….

  7. Blue Democrat Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 1:19 am
    BIRDGAL,
    Umm.. nice place to visit………..

    I live in CA, and have been to Oregon several times. It is a beautiful place, and very diverse. Western Oregon and Eastern Oregon are like 2 separate countries. It is going to be a challenge there. Portland, Eugene, Ashland latte liberals and colleges. Also, there are many CA transplants up there. The demographics are very different, than they were for RFK. Eastern Oregon is very conservative, John McCain country.

  8. djia Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 1:37 am
    bill moyers on tavis smiley talking about the race and wright
    *****************************************************
    What is Bill Moyers saying?

  9. Everyone knows, that the Republicans are being nice to Hillary and her supporters, because they want part of her coalition, if she doesn’t get the nomination. The courting has started.

  10. carby

    I didn’t watch but a few minutes…….they were talking about wright……basically how he’s going to be a issue in the GE

  11. Oregon is interesting to say the least. My best friend lives there. In Portland, for example, there are extremely liberal voters, and then in the surrounding suburbs of Portland, some of the MOST conservative wealthy older voters. Very interesting dynamic there.

  12. I went over to see what their talking about on the daily kooks, they are really on the kool-aid over there. I wished I hadn’t gone!

  13. confloyd…….i made that trip earlier

    it actually was a bit slow over there, there wasn’t the hillary bashing like NC/IN primaries

    I’ve been watching them all day and the diaries have not really moved much today 😀

  14. I live in Oregon. The college towns will go Obama…they are Ashland, Eugene, Corvallis, Portland. I am hoping that since they are so close to finals that the students will space out and forget to mail their ballots.

    Portland and Salem are pretty liberal, could go Obama. The coastal towns like Florence, Brookings could go either way. The rural areas like Medford, Grants Pass, Bend, Roseburg could go Clinton. In fact Bill has already been in Bend and Medford, and Hillary has been in Medford. These areas are strong Republican strongholds, but Hillary is eeking into the Republican base here.

  15. coulda drove to WV and counted the 2% already!

    when did polls close, 7:30?!

    SOS, everytime she wins!!!

  16. We better get ready, the pundits will really go after her starting tomorrow, so lets brace ourselves. I just found out my co-worker in a closet Obama supporter. He doesn’t believe anything about Rezko! I guess he’ll have a big shock when he finds out who the real Bambi is!

  17. The media is still lying for Obama…saying he won the popular vote and the most delegates….I’ll give him delegates but popular…hell no.

    It’s going to be more popaganda until the fall or when the republican start hammering BO and MO and they will the day after the convention.

    I don’t see anything earler unless Bo push the issue…and knowing them they will.

    That’s why Hillary Clinton will be the one to beat McCain this fall since Team Obama New Democratic Coalition will just write off people.

  18. dumbasses are spinning that Hillary’s victory speech hints at a Vice Presidency.

    Yeah. After a 41% crush, she’s thinking about VP. What part of “we’re in it to win” do these eggheads not get?

  19. The Vice Presidency is to appease the Hillary Supporters and call them off of BO….don’t buy into the spin, this is another Voter suppression tactic to keep the voters home or at least moving towards Obambi.

    The don’t want to see another Hillary thumping on the “annoited one.”

  20. well clearly the only ones buying their spin is themselves……..according to the exit polls and the popular vote 😀

    well kids…….i can’t stay awake any longer waiting for that last 2%

    see you all in the am 😀

  21. rjk,

    Yeah, I think Politico is using that Edwards vote to deny calling it 3-to-1 for Hill. The smallness of the people she’s up against….

  22. hi hillfans, i just got home but i did follow the results a little online and tv. the obamabots can’t spin a 41-point, 144,000 vote loss.

  23. CNN is saying that BO will argue that the dems special election win proved that he can win those swing states.

    I’ll give Katrina those wina as there is geniune anger over how the Bush/Cheney Admin treated them. So BO will leap frog the SD saying that he can win those states.

    It is going to be very, very interesting…g’nite Hillfans, stay strong.

  24. Going forward, it seems pretty clear what the plan is for Hillary:

    Try like the dickens to win OR. Wining OR can close the deal
    If not a win, keep it close. We need the votes
    Win KY by the biggest margin possible
    Win PR by the biggest margin possible
    Get as many votes as possible out of the other smaller states

    Why?

    Because it is going to come down to an argument between what defines who finishes the season the winner. Obama will say it is delegates, for Hillary, the popular vote. Hence she must be ahead in the popular vote at the end. MI and FL will count. We are not talking about delegates so seating or not seating MI and FL becomes moot.

    The Supers and other delegates will then have to decide what constitutes a victory, delegates or popular votes. This decision will then decide the nominee. If Hillary has neither the delegates nor popular vote, it is on to 2012. If she has the numbers, the Supers can decide either informally between the two choices, (delegates or votes) before the convention, or it will go to Denver.This is why everyone keeps thinking it could be decided in June.

    Hillary has to have the popular vote or will close shop if she doesn’t. Hence her sadness at losing NC by so much and winning IN by so little. For her, delegates don’t mean a darn anymore. She needs votes. There is little chance he will fall behind in delegates, so his main goal is to prevent her from getting votes.

    Now you see why he and his media allies have embarked on their current strategy of pre-announcing him the winner. To scare people from voting. If people stay home and don’t vote, he has a shot of winning the popular vote.

    Hence from now on, GOTV is the game plan for Hillary. We get the votes; we have a decent shot at the nomination. Donate and call.

  25. Bots are saying on the daily kooks, this is a loss for Hillary because she did not beat him by better than 52%. They say he as beat her several times with this margin. The states they mention this happening with are the caucas’s. LOL! How can they really believe this? Some of those causes were less that 50,000 votes and they are trying to compare those with this 145,000 vote win. They are in serious denial over there!

  26. paddy4hill, you mean the total popular vote INCLUDING the popular vote counts from MI and FL right?

  27. Childers won the special election after running an ad disassociating from Obama. How can anyone not know that?

  28. Carby,
    Yeah, they’ve been pointing to that race all night, because it is significant, as Repubs ran ads linking Obama to the Dem candidate in Trent Lott’s old district an lost. I think that’s 3 straight special elections too, after dems didn’t win one in an R district for a decade (according to Todd). So supposedly this gives SD’s comfort that BO won’t be a drag on the ticket. I don’t know if they’ll count on that 🙂

    Over time, Hill’s gonna look more & more like the surer thing.

  29. That is my favorite part about this, Hillguy. They are telling the media to stuff it, they will vote with their values and “FU Big Media”. It is over when they say it’s over.

  30. MJ,
    “How can anyone not know that?”

    I didn’t. He specifically distanced from BO in his ads?

  31. I saw an interview tonight (I think on Greta) anyway a reporter from OR was asked if Hillary had a chance there and he replied it may be the last sate that can go either way. I disargee with him because I am not giving up on SD and MT. Well I am not giving up on SD (I once found a nugget of gold there and Hillary will too)

  32. HillGuy Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 2:12 am
    Lesson from West Virginia: Most people don’t give a shit what Big Media pundits say.
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    Why would they, we don’t! Just focus on GOTV and know that TEAM OBAMBI is going to do SUPPRESS THE VOTE USING THEIR ONLY ADVANTAGE MSM that is in the tank for boy gutless.

    That is why MO is going to PR they need to stop Hillary because if we can GOTV in PR that will send a big statement that OBAMBI is an empty suit.

  33. I am not giving up on OR, but they have been mailing ballots back fro 10 days now and that worries me a little. I wish we could have those 10 days back.

  34. Yes, MJ, a friend of mine and I just had a convo about that. Childers came out with an saying “people are trying to link me to candidates I don’t even know” about Obama.

    I thought it was funny that no one mentioned that.

  35. rjk1957, I posted my theory on SD earlier as well. Hillary has a rather good chance of winning there despite Gutter Ball’s big name endorsements (Daschle), such as:

    1) It’s a closed Dem primary. She always wins amongst Dems.
    2) Less than 1% of Dem voters in SD are AA.
    3) There is no huge, liberal city in SD (like Portland in OR).
    4) SD does not have a huge college/university population.
    5) IT’S NOT A CAUCUS!

  36. Blue Democrat Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 1:58 am
    coulda drove to WV and counted the 2% already!

    when did polls close, 7:30?!

    SOS, everytime she wins!!!
    no foolin every time…and been back and forth home 3 times over bluedem..lol..for them 2% votes

  37. We got to treat next week primaries like we did TEXAS…NO distractions JUST GOTV for Hillary.

    Oblameless lost tonight did hurt him badly because he won NADA, no counties, lost most of his core base…that hurt him because it continue his slide in his core base with young people.

  38. The reason we lost predominantly “white” states like WI is because of same day voter registration which permitted Repugs to infiltrate our primary. They voted for the weaker candidate to go against in the Fall, Gutter Ball. Also, WI has a HUGE college/university population with many cities devoted to this demographic.

    None of the above problems will be a factor in South Dakota.

    Montana, however, does not have registration by party, so Repugs will be able to vote for Dem candidates. It will be interesting to see whether they vote against Gutter Ball for his stance on guns (since guns are HUGE in MT), or if they will vote for the weaker candidate to compete against in the Fall. Remember, Bill Clinton won MT in the 1992 GE.

  39. It’s the voters stupid. Wolfson is making THE argument on Michigan and Florida. Count all the votes the way they were voted. Wolfson also makes the point that Hillary is being outspent but still winning.

    Accept no Math that does not include Florida and Michigan. Two and a half million people matter. 1 single vote matters – the lesson of 2000.

    We want to see a lot more of this. On to Denver.

  40. CJ,
    Kinda seems like they don’t ever want to talk about the popular vote, eh?
    If the final tally doesn’t come in while they’re live they can’t – or won’t.
    Of course they can estimate but choose not to.

    Maybe it tells us what they’re most afraid of.

  41. she mentioned sen byrd during the speech warmly-said they spoke. i onder if she secured his backing?

  42. I am off to dream of Hillary raising her hand and being sworn in as the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT.

    Goodnight all!

    Admin, thanks for this sanctuary.

  43. Carbynew – (W)right on!

    No distractions. GOTV.

    Someone posted earlier the votes already in Oregon and the race there is tight. Let’s humiliate Obama on May 20 with victories in Kentucky and Oregon (or at least come real, real close) on the day the clothes-less Emperor intends to crown himself with “Mission Accomplished”.

  44. Jeralyn over at TalkLeft posted that Nightline is really good tonight. No bias, just factually laying out the state of the race.

  45. Oh holy hell! Dumbass couldn’t even break 30%. The anointed one was kept to a lowly 26%.

  46. socal4hill

    the only thing I got out of that video is that Hillary will be 44 because Obama will have a wart on his southern Uranus.

    Where is Idunn when ya need her?

  47. The media keeps talking delegates, delegates etc. The truth of the matter is Obama may end up with more, but he still does not and will not have enough to be the official winner at the end. This is the real math. No winner in delegate count by June. If he is behind in the popular vote, Hillary can and will challenge his claim as victor. The delegates will then have to decide which are more important, delegates or popular votes. All the votes will need to be included (MI/FL) in any calculation about votes but not necessarily delegates. HENCE WE MUST WIN THE POPULAR VOTE!

  48. jesus Christ. is someone in West Virginia still couting vo@ 3am?

    They fucking stop @ 99%?!

    Ballbusters!

  49. paddy,

    They can talk delegates all they want. The one thing they always seem to leave out is that all of the 3600 delegates already alligned with one candidate or another can change their minds and vote for anyone at the convention

  50. More on Howard Wolfson tonight. Donna Brazile stuck defending discriminatory rules. Howard Wolfson said the voters matter. The voters voted and will not be punished. Wolfson also said the votes should be counted in “the manner people voted”. Wolfson made the point that Obama was on the ballot and then Obama took his name off the ballot.

    We like.

  51. rjk, exactly. So they can decide to give their support to the winner of the popular vote. Many will. Why? Because of the EC math. Additionally, she can win over independents, Reagan democrats, women republicans, as well as Democrats. He can’t. (He says otherwise but these last few contests have proved him wrong). We just need to provide them the reason to vote for her. The popular vote is that reason.

    Obama knows this. This is why he is already saying that the nomination has always gone to the person with the highest number of delegates. We need to do some historical research. Democratic conventions go all the way back to the 1820s. If I remember correctly, this has not always been the case. Some even went for compromise candidates not even running.

  52. Keep in mind that Obama has stated that every Democratic convention has nominated the person with the most delegates. Just doing some initial research the very first convention I reviewed was the 1844 convention. I selected it randomly. This is from Wikipedia:

    Polk initially hoped to be nominated for vice-president at the Democratic convention, which began on May 27, 1844. The leading contender for the presidential nomination was former President Martin Van Buren, who wanted to stop the expansion of slavery. Other candidates included James Buchanan, General Lewis Cass, Cave Johnson, John C. Calhoun, and Levi Woodbury. The primary point of political contention involved the Republic of Texas, which, after declaring independence from Mexico in 1836, had asked to join the United States. Van Buren opposed the annexation but in doing so lost the support of many Democrats, including former President Andrew Jackson, who still had much influence. Van Buren won a simple majority on the convention’s first ballot but did not attain the two-thirds supermajority required for nomination. After six more ballots, when it became clear that Van Buren would not win the required majority, Polk was put forth as a “dark horse” candidate. The eighth ballot was also indecisive, but on the ninth, the convention unanimously nominated Polk, supported by Jackson.

    His case is weak.

  53. who says a woman can’t do more with less…

    Hillary has earned 182 superdelegates alone in just the 17 states she won

    her opponent had to win 28 states just to get 169

    (this does not include “crossover” superdelegates from the lost states of either candidate or territories that have voted or the not yet voted primaries
    who have superdelegates committed so far. thats why the #’s don’t total actual tallies)

  54. This is Obama’s WORST performance of the entire campaign. He will fail to reach the number he did in Arkansas (26.25%).

    Had Edwards not been in the contest, HRC wins her largest victory of the contest, eclipsing her 43+% win in Arkansas.

    This emasculation of Obama comes AFTER he was proclaimed the presumptive nominee and AFTER he announced plans to throw a victory party in Oregon. Neither of these factors is coincidental. Between the lockstep-voting of AA’s (92%) and the Elite Triad’s (Effete Dem Elites/Obamas/MSM) desire to push Clinton out of the race, what we witnessed tonight was straight-out backlash. And it’s going to get worse. I don’t care how loud or vocal you are, if you constitute but 11% of the national electorate and you’re going around trying to tell the other 89% that they’re racist while the members of your 11% is voting for the candidate who shares your ethnicity at a 92% clip, you are only going to get so far before the 89% starts looking at the 92% figure and collectively goes “WTF? We’re racists, or voting based on race?!?!” The parlor tricks are off. The bamboozling is complete.

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    Kentuckians, it is time to start getting pissed.

    West Virginians are being hailed as ‘racists’ from all corners of the blogosphere media. You, Kentuckians, are being warned in advance that if you dare to vote for the first female with a serious chance at the Presidency, you will be called racists and your sanity, intellect, etc. will be challenged by the elites who feel they are better than you and who, when they have the chance and they’re in San Francisco, rip the hell out of you to their friends.

    Kentucky — You going to take this sh*t?

    We know you won’t. None of us would either.

    Today was the bill coming due for The South Carolina Memo, D-Wild Doug Wilder, Jimmy Clyburn, J-Jax, Jr. and a whole bunch of other POS that have done their best to set back race relations in this country by decades. These individuals, and their Borg Collective, are antithetical to everything this country is about and would have repulsed MLK had he been alive. The level of contempt which I, and many others who know exactly what has happened this season, have for these race-baiting miscreants is boundless. Each and every last one of them deserves to be electorally targeted and driven from office, permanently, in the same way Jax Sr’s punk kid tried to bully John Lewis with. They are race pimps, period. And our party shouldn’t be doing business with their ilk.

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    Now, those licking their 40+-point loss are trying two tactics tonight, and both are false.

    1. Caucus margins of victory do not equate to primary margins of victory. That dog won’t hunt, it best stay on the porch. The will of the voters, as Texas so aptly demonstrated, is NOT recorded in caucuses, especially when the candidate who does well with working-class voters doesn’t get to receive those working-class votes because caucuses are only like 2 hours long (as opposed to all-day voting at primary polls) when many people are at work. BZZZZZTTTT.

    2. The MS special election.

    Yes, Childers won. Good stuff.

    What you’re NOT hearing, however, is HOW he won. That is, by giving media interviews and spending campaign $$$ to run commercials specifically distancing himself from Obama.

    I can see it now, the official DNC 50-state strategy:

    “Running to win: How our downticket Dems will succeed in November by fleeing our party’s presidential nominee, all the while draining our campaign coffers by having to run multiple ads explaining how they really don’t know Obama nor does he reflect their views.”

    Ha ha ha. Orange Azmodeus, you are due up for the next VillarrealSports.com’s “Worst Blogger on the Planet” for your horse excrement piece on this subject tonight. You have reached nadirs which should be beyond even you.

    Ah, well. You can’t be too hard on them. Electoral affairs which end up being proctology examinations for your favorite cult leader often end like this. So, for tonight, we’ll send them off with a pat on the head and some fine parting gifts.
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    Tonight we have witnessed what desperation will do to the souls of men. It will render them devoid of all reason and ability to discern reality. As with all cults, they will happily board the Titanic, over and over again, even when the vessel is halfway to Davey Jones’ locker.

    Tonight, we got our first answer to the question being posed to the Obamaphants over the next several weeks — “What you going to do when hell is unleashed on you?”

    The short answer is simple:

    Cover the ears and eyes allow denial to take over the typing duties.

    Ha ha ha.

    Ain’t victory grand?

    A toast, to all of my fellow reality-based Hillary supporters.

    Tonight is our night. We have routed the enemy, and he is in full, unmitigated and most ignominious retreat.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  55. paddy,
    Obama is wrong about the person with the most delegates heading into the convention has not always won the nomination.
    I didn’t go back too far, but in 1968 Humphrey was the nominee and did not participte in any primaries and in 1952 Tennessee Senator Kefauver went into the convention leading in delegates and lost the nomination to Stevenson. Prior to the 60’s not all states held primaries or caucuses, the state party selected the delegates and the convention was pretty much a free for all.

  56. I will continue doing research on this topic. I am willing to bet that the majority of Democratic conventions DID NOT nominate the person going in with the highest number of delegates. Will keep you posted on the results.

  57. I have just sent the following message to the campaign and will be distributing it to several other outlets shortly. Here is what I wrote to the campaign:

    I have just looked up the data, and it is official:

    This is Obama’s WORST showing of the campaign season, The 25.7% he received in WV eclipses the low he had previously set in Arkansas, 26.25%.

    This needs to be shouted from the mountaintops, in one form or another.

    All of this after he announced himself the winner of the nomination and said he was going to party in Oregon.

    Had Edwards not been on the ballot, the margin (41%) would have eclipsed that in Arkansas (around 44%).

    There is no washing over this defeat. It is total and utter.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

    Admin, please put this up when you make your next post if you see fit. The world needs to know how the presumptive, ready-to-party-in-Oregon ‘nominee’ just suffered his worst performance of the entire campaign season AFTER he was annoited by both the Party and the MSM. This is an absolute catastrophe, and the worst time possible for Obama to suffer his worst outing as a potential nominee.

    Wow. FREAKING wow!!

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  58. Presence and Absence

    A few things strike me about the West Virginia results that are not getting much attention, even on the blogs.

    First, it is not just that Hillary won the WV primary. Hillary won it with an incredible turn out. I’m looking at the NYT page with 93% reporting and her vote tally is 223,509. CNN is a little ahead of the Times on its count, its numbers being 97% and 232,773. To put this into perspective, Bill got 331,001 in 1992 and 327,812 in 1996, Al Gore got 295,497 in 2000 and Kerry got 326,541 in 2004. Thoise aren’t primary numbers – those are general election totals. Her current (not final) numbers show her getting between 71% and 79% of what the last three Democratic presidential candidates got, and it’s only the primary.

    The fantasy that she’s somehow not attractive to swing state voters needs to be laid to rest. Had Gore or Kerry won West Virginia – just that one state – they would have won it all. (Caveat that Gore really did win Florida, of course…). Just as Obama appeals to AA voters, Hillary appeals to Scots-Irish whites. This is a benefit to the party because it means more votes in border states that have been red recently but can be moved back to the blue column.

    Hillary is a presence in this election. People in primary states are turning out in the millions for her and are growing increasingly loyal as the political powers that be refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of her run and the reality of her support.

    Second, there was the complete absence of the much lauded Obama machine bringing in new voters and transcending politics as usual. Again, here’s some perspective. He currently has 86,861 WV votes (NYT) in a hotly contested campaign for the nomination. John McCain, in a “Hi, nice meeting you, give me money,” victory lap in WV is currently at 83,791 votes, barely 3,000 behind the odds-on-favorite for Dem nomination. OK, I can see a loss in a state where demographics favor your opponent, but 41%? Of the front-running presumptive nominee? Who outspent Hillary 2-to-1 and has the entire MSM lined up singing his praises?

    Where’s the beef, Barry?

    In contest after contest, we see him failing to turn out the massive numbers that his allegedly unstoppable movement says they command. We see dominance in highly restrictive caucuses. We see him turning out super-majorities of AA voters. We see him dominating urban areas where you have upper income liberals. We see the college aged children of those liberal families voting in university areas.

    What we aren’t seeing is any new coalitions for the Democratic Party coming out of his organizing. We aren’t seeing his share of the electorate increase. If anything, it is declining, given his defeats in OH, TX, PA, IN and WV, and what looks like a royal shellacking in the works in KY. His Oregon numbers are equivocal, as it turns out, as people who claim to have voted already report voting for Hillary at the same rate as Obama. In a Nebraska primary held today, which was like Washington State’s with no delegates awarded, he’s barely 2 points ahead. This was a caucus state that went for him 60/40. Hmm, maybe he didn’t have all that much support there? Maybe he won big there because the voters didn’t turn out?

    It is beginning to look like the main reason for Obama’s red state caucus successes is the absence of voters, not the presence of new ones. I’m reminded of a tornado that tears through a landscape and can exert tremendous force, but when the motion slows, it vanishes, leaving nothing but destruction behind it.

    Anglachel
    http://www.anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/05/presence-and-absence.html#links

  59. texan4hillary, we noticed the turnout numbers last night but wanted to wait until 100% of the vote was in before mentioning it. Also, we simply could not believe the numbers.

    If you reference the Jay Cost toy, he estimated 94% of the Kerry vote in West Virginia would turn out.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/chooseyourown.html

    94% of the Kerry vote would have netted Hillary 122,779 votes. The numbers for Hillary in the actual vote were higher. We were frankly surprised that the turnout would therefore have to be higher than 94%. It was too astonishing to believe without final vote totals data. It’s still too astonishing to believe but apparently West Virginia voters came out in massive numbers.

    Astonishing.

  60. Yes admin, astonishing.

    The people have had their say. American society is in full revolt against the powers that be. They are angry that a small group of persons in positions of power in the Democratic Party, the media, and finance have conspired together to select on behalf of the people their leaders. Usually they get away with pulling fast ones over the eyes of a complacent citizenry. This time they have gone too far.

    A revolt of this magnitude has not occurred for quite some time on our soil. Even Hillary probably had no idea when she began her quest that she would be the instrument of the American people in retaking their beloved Republic from the hands of a corrupt group of cronies and brigands. But it has happened. And the spark that would ignite the prairie fire began in all places in West Virginia. Hardy folk they are and down to earth.

    This is no ordinary political phenomena. It is a movement. And unlike the fake one from the other side, one that is solidly grounded in the average working people of this land. The gauntlet has been thrown down. Now the real battle for the soul of America will commence.

  61. Goodmorning everyone. Rep Rahl (Obama SD) lost his re-election right? Does he loose is SD status? Shouldn’t this give the SD’s in WV pause as to what supporting Obama can get you in that State?

  62. GREAT POST ADMIN! (as usual)

    Sing it to me John Denver!

    Let’s have a blowout in KY and OR!

    AND………..let’s storm the May 31 meeting with all the FL & MI advocacy groups staging protests at meeting site!!!!!!!

    AND………..let’s do what we can to get Larry Sinclair and Pastor Manning a press conference together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah, Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. For those of you last week who were planning or are still planning to forsake the Democratic Party for the Republicans, I offer for your examination some more about the exciting prospect of Mike Huckabee joining McCain on his ticket. Another white protestant male coupled with another white protestant male. Certainly a forward looking Party that is in synch with the needs of modern America.

    usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/5/13/a-mccain-huckabee-ticket-the-right-reacts.html

    Some are complaining he is too far left!!!!!

  64. I understand your concern about the Republican ticket.

    However, Obama has nothing in his agenda in reference to Women. We are having a convention of women here in NM. He is sending his wife, instead of coming himself. There are some worrisome indications about O’s stand on women’s rights. Then there are the slights that he has shown in public againt Senator Clinton.

    This has not been discussed, but the man basically does not have a stand on women’s rights. It is like they really don’t exists. The possible exception is his stand on partial birth abortion, which would come out in a GE, which no one talks about, but I am sure the Republicans will.

  65. I keep hearing the Howard Dean had this planned long ago, and had orchastraed this take over of the Democratic party. He wants his person to win, and not the Clintons.

    We should have never put him in charge of the DNC especially after he HEE HAW performance.

  66. NewMexico, its twiddle Dee and twiddle Dum as far as I am concerned, that is between Obama and McCain with regards to women’s rights. Except for Hillary making it so, it is another non-issue for the guys. They are both more concerned about debating glaciers than about the 51% of Americans who are female. At least we know from this experience who really controls the media, and both Parties (males) in spite of all the BS from progressives about gender equality.

  67. Caroline Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 7:19 am
    Goodmorning everyone. Rep Rahl (Obama SD) lost his re-election right? Does he loose is SD status? Shouldn’t this give the SD’s in WV pause as to what supporting Obama can get you in that State?

    Whoa. What happened?

  68. Paddy4Ill

    I understand that, but we need to start making that an issue. We also need to start fighting harder for Hillary right now. Women control the money in this country, yet we don’t support the women candidates like we should. It is like the black white issue. Men support men, but women want to be fair.

    We need to change that.

    Thanks for the comments.

  69. URGENT – REQUIRES YOUR ATTENTION

    Who wants to travel????
    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/travel/?sc=2

    We need volunteers to travel to states with upcoming contests and help get out the vote. Come and help us knock on doors, make phone calls and other important voter outreach activities.

    Kentucky (May 20)
    Oregon (May 20)
    Puerto Rico (June 1)
    Montana (June 3)
    South Dakota (June 3)
    National HQ – Arlington, VA

    P.S. Can’t come to Oregon, but want to help? Email winoregon@hillaryclinton.com to find out how you can get involved by making phone calls into the Beaver State.

  70. When calling folks in Oregon, keep this helpful information handy:

    LGN or Bush Cheney Energy Bill that Obama voted for and Hillary opposed
    LGN is Liquid Natural Gas pipline that will run along our coastline and private farmlands (eminent domain). The state has no say because it’s a federal bill. Hillary will give back the state the right to make it’s own decisions.

    Let’s keep the momentum going… MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY!!

  71. She almost made it to 150,000. I wonder if this includes absentee, and provisional ballots. We could make some more head way there. Does anyone know?

  72. I know you think that contacting the uncommitted Delegates is important.

    But we need to start thinking about contacting the committed. The vote does not count until Denver. It is time to start putting doubt in their minds.

  73. I think someone here that can write really well…..which obviously isn’t me LOL

    should write us a well said form letter that we can all use to send to the SD

    anyone up for the task??

  74. A big THANK YOU to all the fantastic people who made W. Virginia the humongous, Obama ass chomping success it was.
    Just keep trying to brush us off of your shoulder, buddy. Ain’t gonna happen. Hillary 08

  75. FANTASTIC MORNING! 41% victory! Throw in Edwards 7% and Waffles was defeated by almost 50%!

    I saw this amazing list at TM. It’s a list of SD’s where HRC WON their states and yet they committed to Waffles. Anyone have any idea of how we can use this?
    (Posted by LOM)
    Here is a list of SDs supporting Barack Obama, but their states went for Clinton:
    Del. Eni FH Faleomavaga, AS
    Theresa Hunkin, AS
    Gov. Janet Napolitano, AZ
    Rep. Harry Mitchell, AZ
    Rep. Raul Grijalva, AZ
    DNC Charlene Fernandez, AZ
    Rep. Anna Eshoo, CA
    Rep. Xavier Becerra, CA
    Rep. Barbara Lee, CA
    Rep. Adam Schiff, CA
    Rep. George Miller, CA
    Rep. Linda Sanchez, CA
    Rep. Zoe Lofgren, CA
    Rep. Lois Capps, CA
    DNC Hon. Eric Garcetti, CA
    DNC Norma Torres, CA
    DNC Jeremy Bernard, CA
    DNC Mary Ellen Early, CA
    DNC Alexandra Gallardo-Rooker, CA
    DNC Steven Alari, CA
    DNC Inola Henry, CA
    DNC Edward Espinoza, CA
    DNC Vernon Watkins, CA
    DNC Crystal Strait, CA
    Rep. Robert Wexler, FL
    DNC Allan Katz, FL
    DNC Joyce Cusack, FL
    Rep. Kathy Castor, FL
    Dan Gelber, FL
    Rep. Andre Carson, IN
    Rep. Baron Hill, IN
    Rep. Joe Donnelly, IN
    DNC Cordelia Lewis Burks, IN
    DNC Connie Thurman, IN
    DNC Joe Andrew, IN
    Gov. Deval Patrick, MA
    Sen. John Kerry, MA
    Sen. Ted Kennedy, MA
    Rep. William Delahunt, MA
    Rep. Michael Capuano, MA
    DNC John Walsh, MA
    DNC Margaret Xifaras, MA
    DNC Raymond Jordan, MA
    DNC David O’Brien, MA
    DNC Alan Solomont, MA
    DNC Paul Kirk, MA
    Rep. John Conyers, MI
    Rep. Steve Rothman, NJ
    Rep. Donald Payne, NJ
    DNC Christine “Roz” Samuels, NJ
    DNC Donald Norcross, NJ
    DNC Dana Redd, NJ
    DNC Steven Horsford, NV
    DNC Teresa Benitez-Thompson, NV
    Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, NH
    Rep. Paul Hodes, NH
    DNC Hon. Martha Fuller Clark, NH
    Gov. Bill Richardson, NM
    Sen. Jeff Bingaman, NM
    Fmr DNC Chair Fred Harris, NM
    DNC Brian Colon, NM
    Laurie Weahkee, NM
    DNC Marianne Spraggins, NY
    DNC David Wilhelm, OH
    DNC Sonni Nardi, OH
    DNC Mark Mallory, OH
    DNC Rhine McLin, OH
    DNC Enid Goubeaux, OH
    Dave Regan, OH
    Gov. Brad Henry, OK
    DNC Kitti Asberry -, OK
    DNC Kalyn Free, OK
    Reggie Whitten, OK
    Sen. Bob Casey, PA
    Rep. Patrick Murphy, PA
    Rep. Chaka Fattah, PA
    DNC Carol Ann Campbell, PA
    DNC Leon Lynch, PA
    Rep. Patrick Kennedy, RI
    DNC Patrick Lynch, RI
    Rep. Jim Cooper, TN
    Rep. Steve Cohen, TN
    DNC Lois DeBerry, TN
    DNC Will Cheek, TN
    DNC (Rep.) Eddie Bernice Johnson, TX
    Rep. Chet Edwards, TX
    Rep. Al Green, TX
    Rep. Lloyd Doggett, TX
    Rep. Charlie Gonzalez, TX
    DNC Al Edwards, TX
    DNC Rep. Hon. Yvonne Davis, TX
    DNC Moses Mercado, TX
    DNC Senfronia Thompson, TX
    DNC Roy LaVerne Brooks, TX
    DNC John Patrick, TX
    Sen. Jay Rockefeller, WV
    Rep. Nick Rahall, WV
    LOM | 05.14.2008 – 02:22 am | #

  76. MEDIA WATCH:

    Yahoo’s top stories “In the news” don’t mention WV results at all.

    If you go to Election 08, you get the “nothing’s happening, let’s move it along” treatment. Headline: Clinton’s W. Va victory does little to slow Obama.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Do you think they could struggle any harder on Obama’s behalf? What, a 41% blowout is ho-hum, but Obama’s 14% NC results were treated as complete thrashing.

    NYT and WashPost also are quite stingy in their headlines, both describing it as Clinton winning “handily”. Obama’s NC was winning handily. This was a tad more than that.

    Why am I not surprised?

  77. I am wondering if Admin can help us with that. If we could just be given the key points and percentages, then we could put it together in a letter to these people. We could select the key points that are important in that SDs state.

    It might also help to be focused in on the SDs that they think we could switch.

    For instance my Governor is a waste of time. But we might have a change with Sen Bingaman? Our State Chair has been geared all along, but Bingaman has now show that slant.

    However, I think Admin know where we can best spend out efforts. One thought is SDs who are up for re-election, and how that affected Childers.

  78. By the way, when I asked on this list for people to contact our Chair, before he declared, he got hundreds of email.

    Thank you for that support.

    West Virginia has earned my eternal respect. Those people see clearly.

  79. Nikk2, your state represented! That was incredible last night!

    We have to work on KY to get her margins up over 20% and many calls to OR as they are voting now.

    Hopefully, the magnitude of her win will swing more votes her way in OR.

    Messnbc is a whore for Obama. I refuse to watch that channel. Greta was actually very good last night, she asked the probing questions that needed to be asked re caucus’ not being conducive to Sen. Clinton’s base, Obama dissing the people of WV etc.

    What a coward, he didn’t even campaign there. Let’s see what he does in KY.

  80. What WV showed (besides a decided preference for Clinton) is that the voters are giving a big EFF YOU to the media itself.

    The media is spinning and scared, not just because their guy is losing, but because THEY are losing. The public is IGNORING them. That is the thing that scares them more than an Obama loss – the loss of their OWN power to drive public opinion.

  81. tiburones

    He did campaign there, just not in person. He out spent her 2 or 3 to 1. This is important, as when we say he did not campaign, it looks like if he tried he could have done better.

    He had a lot more staff there than Clinton also.

    She was close to mattching the number of votes candidates get in a GE. This is the sign of a candidate at the top of the ticket, not a VP.

  82. hillaryfortexas,

    Reminds me of the ‘situation comedies’ and other shows trotted out at the beginning of the Fall season with glowing reviews and critical acclaim which are canceled after a couple of airings.

    The voters have canceled BSM (bull-sh!t media)

    😈

  83. Doin’ the Math:

    CNN loves “doing the math”, as if their numbers are carved in stone. But we’ve seen that it matters what numbers you count.

    MI/FL? not-so-much.

    So Brazile was asked by John King flat out: What if Obama reaches the lower threshold of 2,025 (dels needed without FL/MI) prior to 5/31 (when the DNC will make some kind of decision about FL/MI), but he doesn’t have it all in committed delegates (it’s essentially not possible, if not totally IMpossible, at this point), that they’d include SDs, would he be declared “the winner”. Brazile said “Yes”.

    I almost fell off my chair.

    Then King pointed out that SDs only really cast their vote in August. (and we know SDs can switch). I don’t recall how the rest of it played out. I believe this occurred around midnight during Andersen Cooper’s show.

    &&&
    So there’s your smoking gun. Brazile must be removed from her DNC position if she a) doesn’t know the rules, or b) flagrantly ignores the rules.

  84. basil9

    You are so correct. The media hypes them up, and you sometimes almost know immediately that there is nothing there.

    Yet, they act like the show is the second coming of something.

    That so related to O, and what has gone on here. His weaknesses do not matter, his speeches are from GOD, and it matter more about winning Caucuses (which disenfranchise voters), than it matters about winning a real vote of the people.

    The real people of WV told them resoundingly yesterday, where they stood, so late in the game, regardless of the media sell, and the Chair of the Party.

    Like I said we should have ditched Dean when he said Yee Haw.

  85. May 14, 2008, 7:00 a.m.

    Hillary: I’m Here, Get Used To It
    And a landslide in West Virginia doesn’t hurt.

    By Byron York

    If the Democratic presidential race were a runaway, if Barack Obama were, say, 1,500 delegates ahead of Hillary Clinton, then there would likely not be so many anguished cries for Clinton to quit the race.

    Just look at 1992. Bill Clinton is fond of saying he didn’t wrap up the Democratic nomination until June 2 of that year, when he won the California primary. That’s technically true, but Clinton was the clear winner long before that. Nevertheless, former California Gov. Jerry Brown stubbornly stayed in the race, even though going into June 2, he had 388 delegates to Clinton’s 2,059. (Clinton’s total was, at the time, 86 short of locking up the nomination.)

    Brown hadn’t been taken seriously since losing the New York primary on April 7, but he kept at it. His campaign became so quixotic that in late May, during a visit to an elementary school in South Central Los Angeles, a nine year-old asked him, “What do you plan to do to get more delegates to win this campaign?” “That’s a very good question,” Brown answered, according to an Associated Press report. “What do you think we should do?”

    There was no good answer, but who cared? Brown could stay in as long as he liked because his presence didn’t really matter. But Hillary Clinton’s campaign, which is not only not 1,500 delegates behind Barack Obama but might, by some reckoning, catch up with him in the popular vote total — and in any event remains excruciatingly close to Obama in all measures — is different. Obama’s supporters, in the campaign, in the Democratic party, and in the press are desperate for her to leave the race precisely because her support is so substantial; her continued presence is a daily reminder of how profoundly divided the party is at this moment.

    Her landslide 67-26 victory over Obama in West Virginia — she won by 147,410 votes — won’t change that situation. The oft-repeated fact that no Democrat since 1916 has won the White House without winning West Virginia won’t change it, either. But together, those two facts show just how far Democrats have ventured into uncharted territory this year. If Obama is to win the White House, he’ll have to do it in a brand-new way, winning states that Democrats haven’t won lately with diminished support in states that have been important to Democratic victories in the past. Clinton’s campaign reminds Democrats of that, and it makes some of them nervous.

    The West Virginia results were as across-the-board as you can get. She won 57-34 among men and 70-24 among women. She won 64-25 among voters who attend church more than once a week and 64-34 among voters who never go to church. She won 69-24 among voters without a college degree and 54-39 among voters with a degree. She won 69-25 among voters who make less than $50,000 a year and 58-34 among voters who make more than that. She won 65-28 among voters who think the economy is the most important issue, 57-37 among voters who think the war in Iraq is the most important issue, and 68-23 among voters who think health care is the most important issue. She won 67-26 among white voters. (We don’t know the breakdown among black voters, because they were too few in number — West Virginia is 95 percent white — for exit pollsters to calculate, although results in other states suggest that blacks probably voted 90-plus percent for Obama.) She won 67-25 among voters who have a union member in their household and 63-31 among voters who don’t. She won 56-38 among voters under 30 years old, 63-27 among voters between 30 and 44 years old, 65-27 among voters between 45 and 59 years old, and 68-28 among voters 60 and older. Among all voters, 70 percent want the campaign to continue, against just 24 percent who want it to end as soon as possible.

    It’s no wonder Obama didn’t give a speech last night. But Clinton did, and she made it clear that the Democrats who are just dying for her to leave the race will have to just die for a while longer.

    “Now, there are some who have wanted to cut this race short,” she told supporters in Charleston. “They say, ‘Give up. It’s too hard. The mountain is too high.’ But here in West Virginia, you know a thing or two about rough roads to the top of the mountain. . . . I am more determined than ever to carry on this campaign until everyone has had a chance to make their voices heard.”

    Clinton repeated her insistence that delegates from Florida and Michigan — “all of their delegates” — be seated. “I believe we should honor the votes cast by 2.3 million people in those states,” she said. Her demand was pooh-poohed in some circles of the commentariat, but the question for Democrats is: Why is that such a radioactive proposition? This is the party that got rather excited over 537 votes in Florida in 2000, the party that would like to pass something called the Count Every Vote Act, the party that has consistently favored greater enfranchisement over stricter enforcement of the rules (and sometimes the law). Sure, Clinton wants to change the agreement that existed going in to Florida and Michigan, but circumstances have changed, too. Since when have Democrats been such sticklers for unbending rules? Why do so many in the party insist that millions of votes in two key states be counted only if they don’t matter — that is, if the result is a fait accompli — and not be counted if they do?

    If they were counted now — even if some of them were counted now — things might be quite different. According to the Real Clear Politics total, when one includes estimated vote totals in caucus states (a factor which favors Obama) plus results from Florida (which favor Clinton), but nothing from Michigan, where Obama’s name was not on the ballot, Obama’s lead in the national popular vote is 411,915. That figure is less than Obama’s margin of victory in his home of Cook County, Illinois, where, according to the Illinois Board of Elections, Obama won by 429,052 votes. By other counts, Obama’s lead is far less than his winning margin in Cook County. In other words, take away Cook County and Obama is the loser in the national popular vote race. He’s the president of Chicago.

    Nevertheless, the Obama steamroller goes on. “This race, I believe, is over,” former Democratic party chairman — and Clinton supporter — Roy Romer told reporters on an Obama conference call Tuesday morning. “It is time for the party to unify, to get beyond the primary season, and to begin the general election.” His words echo those of dozens of top party figures in recent weeks. But they haven’t quite answered Hillary Clinton’s fundamental question: Why?

    Byron York, NR’s White House correspondent, is the author of the book The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy: The Untold Story of How Democratic Operatives, Eccentric Billionaires, Liberal Activists, and Assorted Celebrities Tried to Bring Down a President — and Why They’ll Try Even Harder Next Time.

  86. The above post may be a from a conservative perspective, but our belief is now confirmed! If Hillary continues, she will gain the popular vote and the party who claimed Gore was the winner over Bush, will have to claim Hillary as the person who got more votes!

  87. I want Oregon winnable, but I don’t want to be suckered by the polls anymore.

    They did that to us in NC.

  88. This vanquishing of the money and BS machine in West Virginia is just the tonic we all have needed after the results of the recent past. It was a formidable victory for Hillary and could be the turn of the tide now that we are in the home stretch. There has NEVER been a primary like this. Could you imagine anything more bizarre?

  89. Oregon is a weird blend of latte liberal land in the cities, and hard core conservatives in the rural areas. Oregon is not winnable, but we can keep the margins down.

  90. It’s nice to wake up to a new post. Thanks admin.

    I had an awful night last night after I was posting here. I finished off the cake and felt bloated…then my sister called and we had a big fight (politics were no small part of it) and I took it out on myself by getting really drunk. 🙁

    Today will be a better day, I’m sure. Self-harm is never the answer. Hillary is.

  91. Robert Novak still insists his big BHO rumor is true!

    On Fox a couple of hours ago he said he has checked it out with the Clinton campaign, and they say they are still trying to find a good way to release the information. He says they insist this will make BHO unelectable.

    He says they’ve told him this will be bigger than Rezko, Ayers, and anything else being discussed. He has volunteered to be the one to publish the story if they will simply give it to him.

    I have no reason to believe Novak, but it might help to explain why Hillary is confidently charging ahead while going deeper in debt. She seems very sure of getting the nomination, and maybe there is more to that than just politics. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe a story that important has not been leaked already. Maybe this old rumor is still only a rumor. I would love to believe it though.

  92. Tonight I’m gonna have myself a real good time
    I feel alive and the world it’s turning inside out Yeah!
    I’m floating around in ecstasy
    So don’t stop her now don’t stop her
    ‘Cause she’s having a good time having a good time

    She’s a shooting star leaping through the skies
    Like a tiger defying the laws of gravity
    She’s a racing car passing by like Lady Godiva
    She’s gonna go go go
    There’s no stopping she

    She’s burning through the skies Yeah!
    Two hundred degrees
    That’s why they call her Mrs. Fahrenheit
    She’s trav’ling at the speed of light
    She wants to make a supersonic land of you

    Don’t stop her now
    She’s having such a good time
    She’s having a ball
    Don’t stop her now
    If you wanna have a good time just give her a call
    Don’t stop her now (‘Cause she’s having a good time)
    Don’t stop her now (Yes she’s having a good time)
    She doesn’t want to stop at all

    She’s a rocket ship on my way to Mars
    On a collision course
    She’s a satellite She’s out of control
    She’s an election machine ready to reload
    Like an atom bomb about to
    Oh oh oh oh oh explode

    She’s burning through the skies Yeah!
    Two hundred degrees
    That’s why they call her Mrs. Fahrenheit
    She’s trav’ling at the speed of light
    She wants make a supersonic woman out of you

    Don’t stop her don’t stop her don’t stop her
    Hey hey hey!
    Don’t stop her don’t stop her
    Ooh ooh ooh (I like it)
    Don’t stop her have a good time good time
    Don’t stop her don’t stop her
    Ooh ooh Alright
    She’s burning through the skies Yeah!
    Two hundred degrees
    That’s why they call her Mrs. Fahrenheit
    She’s trav’ling at the speed of light
    She wants to make a supersonic woman of you

    Don’t stop her now
    She’s having such a good time
    She’s having a ball don’t stop her now
    If you wanna have a good time
    Just give her a call
    Don’t stop her now (‘Cause she’s having a good time)
    Don’t stop her now (Yes she’s having a good time)
    She doesn’t wanna stop at all

    La la la la laaaa
    La la la la
    La la laa laa laa laaa
    La la laa la la la la la laaa hey!!….

  93. Congratulations to Hillary and all of you who worked so hard here!!! I think it is time that the DNC wake up and realize BO is simply to weak with white, middle class voters to be elected.
    It was good to see Wolfson and McAuliffe fight back against BO’s agents at CNN and MSNBC…God bless the Clintons..fighters and defenders of white we true democrats believe in.

  94. How many SDs is Hillary meeting with today? How can you say that Hillary isn’t the will of the voters when she got over twice as many votes in a hardworking state of true Americans? How?!

  95. So the reason I was doing so awful last night was that I was talking to my little sister, who went to a Hillary rally in February but then decided last week to drink Obama’s stale, warm kool aid. She said something like, “West Virginia only voted for Hillary because those people are racists!”

    I started yelling at her:
    1. No, they aren’t racists. Voting against BO does not make someone a racist…that’s just what THEY want you to think. So don’t fall for it.
    2. Even if some of them were racists, well, racists are Americans too, and they have just as much a right to vote as you or me. They will still be racists by the time of the GE, too. Those are people who will never vote for BO. You can’t ignore them, even if you don’t agree with them.

  96. And then she started yelling at me, and I hung up on her. I wish I hadn’t drunk so much after that though. Yesterday was a really happy day, and then I totally blew it. Anybody have a good remedy for hangovers?

  97. You know what, people slag off ARG but they again had it practically smack bang dead on.

    They said 66 to 23 and it ended up 67 to 26.

  98. I bet Obama’s camp was getting a kick out of inventing racist incidents there. What would you bet some of the stories were staged by bots, or didn’t even happen at all? It’s all they can do now to make the HUGE LOSS not pathetic.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/opinion/14dowd-1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

    Raspberry for Barry

    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: May 14, 2008

    In grim times, a bitter Hillary clings to “bitter voters who in grim times supposedly cling to guns, religion and antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”

    Mining that antipathy, the New York senator has been working hard to get the hard-working white voters of hardscrabble Appalachia so she can show that a black man can’t yet be elected president.

    Obama breezed through West Virginia, the state he couldn’t charm even wearing a flag pin and promising to invest in “clean coal.” Fast Barry shot some pool Monday afternoon at Schultzie’s Billiards in South Charleston, including prophetically sinking an eight-ball in the pocket, and then fled from Hillary territory to pursue white, blue-collar workers in battleground states and convince them not to vote for John McBush.

    Obama is acting the diffident debutante, pretending not to care that he was given a raspberry by a state he will need in the fall. He was dismissed not only by the voters Hillary usually gets, but was also edged out in blocs that usually prefer him — the under-30 set, college graduates and affluent voters.

    Interviews with West Virginians leaving the polls showed some profound weaknesses that could haunt the Illinois senator in the fall. More than half said they would be dissatisfied if Obama was the nominee. Half believe he shares the views of the Rev. Wright, and more than half said he does not share their values. More than half also said that he is not honest and trustworthy. Just under half of the Clinton voters said they would not support Obama in the fall.

    Obama may have started the primary season with an inspiring win in 94-percent-white Iowa, but he is winding it up with a resounding loss in 94-percent-white West Virginia.

    “As the song says, ‘Almost heaven,’ ” Hillary said at her Charleston victory party, hailing herself as “the strongest candidate,” the one who can win swing states, and urging again that Michigan and Florida votes be counted.

    “You know I never give up,” she said, with a W.-strength denial of reality.

    Two in 10 white voters said race was important in how they voted, and more than 8 of 10 of these went for Hillary. This echoes an article in The Washington Post on Tuesday that chronicled the racism that some Obama volunteers found in Indiana and Pennsylvania.

    The story quoted Victoria Switzer, a retired social studies teacher, who could take only one night on an Obama phone bank in the nearly all-white Susquehanna County, Pa.: “One caller, Switzer remembers, said he couldn’t possibly vote for Obama and concluded: ‘Hang that darky from a tree!’ ”

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote about complaints of racism after a bar in Marietta, Ga., began selling an Obama 2008 T-shirt with a picture of Curious George peeling a banana.

    Charlie Peters, the legendary former editor of the liberal Washington Monthly who ran Jack Kennedy’s campaign in Kanawha County, W. Va., said Obama should study how J.F.K. managed to win there despite raging anti-Catholicism.

    (My father, in West Virginia once on business, found his car had been flipped over by some locals furious about a sign on it supporting the first Catholic Democratic nominee, Al Smith.)

    “The point of West Virginia in 1960 is that you can change attitudes,” Peters, an Obama supporter, said on Tuesday evening. “But if you don’t act to change them, he could lose West Virginia and I think he could lose the country.

    “He has to change those perceptions of the people who think he could actually agree with the Rev. Wright.”

    J.F.K. bought affection in West Virginia. “The boss of Logan County said 35,” Peters recalled. “He meant $3,500, but Kennedy thought it was $35,000, so he gave him $35,000. They put out all this money and they carried the precincts.” (Hillary has been using street money more than Obama, though it is unclear how much it has helped.)

    West Virginia loved F.D.R. “because the Depression had been very tough for them and F.D.R. was kind to them,” Peters said. (On my father’s trip, he was threatened by a man who asked him about “rumors” that President Roosevelt was in a wheelchair and threatened to thrash any man who said so. My dad, a detective who served on protective details for F.D.R., assured the ruffian that Roosevelt was “a fine, athletic man.”)

    So the campaign brought down F.D.R. Jr., Peters recounted, to “say it’s O.K. to vote for this Catholic.” Because West Virginia had a lot of veterans, they distributed a little tabloid emphasizing J.F.K.’s war record, including a Reader’s Digest piece about his heroism in the Pacific.

    And finally, there was the beguiling Kennedy wit and smile. “Kennedy turned out to be this engaging person,” Peters said, “especially with young people, and children talked to their parents.”

    Peters says Obama needs imagination and a “tremendous effort” to dispel bias in West Virginia, and quickly, “because once it’s set in concrete, you’ll have a hell of a time.”

  99. I don’t think we should set up Oregon like NC..it is a very tough won for Hillary and we should focus on narrowing the gap to 10 or less %…

  100. jbstonesfan – I thought they were essentially tied there? Plus, it’s mail-in ballots…this WV win will do a lot of help today and tomorrow if we can call them and tell them to mail in the ballot TODAY, NOW.

  101. JBStonesfan: You mentioned Randi Rhodes yesterday and I wanted chime in. Living in West Palm Beach I’ve listened to her for many years, at first she was just plain funny, then after the OJ trial she changed and got more and more into politics, showing that she was downright smart as well as hilarious.
    I remember when she first met Bill and then Hillary, she loved them both, and no one could have been a more passionate supporter during the impeachment. Now for the life of me I don’t know what turned her into such a hatred filled virago. I can only assume this is what brain washing looks like and it’s ugly and frightening.
    Probably the only people left calling in to her show are the bots, Hill’s supporters have long gone. I used to listen to progressive radio from 8 in the morning to 6 in the evening, now it’s never on. Can’t tell you how much I miss it.
    Take my advice, save your sanity and don’t tune in any more. I’d rather stick a screwdriver in my ear than suffer a second of Randi’s voice ever again.

  102. good morning hillfans
    i had a better night with no horrible dreams where i could be yelling at donna brazile
    anyway –need a laugh

    here u go – i got this from noquarterusa ,,i am pasting it here

    IS IT ANY WONDER THAT an overwhelming number of flag officers want Hillary as their commander in chief?

    YES, there are more embarrassing gaffes — BUT THIS TIME, they have to do with national security, our two wars, and — ahem — the prime subjects of the Senate Foreign Relations committee on which he supposedly sits. Via Halperin and ABC News:

    (1) The Illinois Senator incorrectly says Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan (but Afghans don’t speak Arabic). Later corrected mistake.

    (2) Obama also stressed need for agricultural specialists in Afghanistan to help develop other crops than heroin poppies (but oil fields not poppy fields are a major source of U.S. technical assistance).

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/14/obamas-embarrassing-gaffes-continue/

  103. Hi LesleyESF…I live in Boca and have been in S. Fla over 30 yrs. Randi was very funny at one time (she use to follow the legenday Neil Rogers down here on WIOD). I loved her as she was a huge Clinton fan. I was listening to Air America only b/c of her as Ed Schultz quickly showed his Obama bias. Randi was positive at first on both “great” candidates, although I sensed her leaning to BO, she went bonkers on Clinton after the Ferreo incident. I believe it was just the excuse she needed. She is back down here again on 940 and I turned it on and it was the same hateful Clinton stuff so I switched back to a local conservative (Schnitt) who has really exposed Obama.

  104. You know what I heard about yesterday and I forgot to tell this board about? The Obama cultists are still spreading the rumor that the KKK and David Duke WANT Obama to win because they think that a black presidency will mess this country up so much and cause rioting…and then there will be a backlash against AAs and the KKK can head it.

    Except that,
    1. Snopes, the urban legend debunker, says that this is NOT true.
    2. There is no mention on Stormfront and the Aryan Power websites, or so I’ve heard.

    What trash they spread to try to convince people that they are RACISTS if they don’t vote for Obama. Hillary has never, ever played up her gender in this way…getting her voters to spread rumors that you are a bad feminist/female if you do not vote for her. She wants you to vote for her on merit alone, and, if you do look at her merits, she makes a GREAT CASE. And that is why so many feminists, White and AA and Asian and Latina, support her (it is not because they are “racist”).

  105. JB:I switched back to a local conservative (Schnitt) who has really exposed Obama.

    What station is that, i’d love someone to listen to?

    When this awful primary is over i will look back with regret to all the people it changed my opinion of and Randi will be chief among them.

  106. Wednesday, May 14, 2008
    Clinton Extends Her Lead Among Congressional Districts!
    Hillary Clinton experienced a better than expected election result in West Virginia last night. Most polling sources and pundits expected a 25-30 point victory in West Virginia, along with a pickup of around 100,000 popular votes. At the end of the night, however, Clinton won in resounding fashion picking up well over 140,000 popular votes in a 41 point victory.

    More importantly, however, is a number the Obama campaign and many media outlets haven’t discussed: Clinton has now won the popular vote in 195 US Congressional Districts. That number is important because of the relative equality of each congressional district. This number is important because too date Barack Obama has only won the popular vote in 187 congressional districts. If you include Florida & Michigan’s 2.3 million voters who showed up in record numbers on Election Day despite being disenfranchised, the congressional district victories look like this:

    Clinton – 227 Congressional Districts
    Obama – 195 Congressional Districts

    http://www.politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/05/clinton-extends-her-lead-among.html

    pls share it with everyone u know

  107. SONIA4HILLARY – I never read articles that start out like that. You know the article is going to be a bunch of backhanded sarcastic stuff. I think this one is also supposed to use an article as a vessel for a lot of subversive anti-Hillary messages.

  108. Schnitt is on 610 WIOD…he leans right, but not like Rush or Hannity. Says Obama states they want to make this about “me”, and Schnitt states “of course it’s about you, your running for the most important job in the world, and you have yet to be vetted out like Clinton”…..

  109. in kentucky hillary has -28+ lead

    in oregon obama has 14+lead

    so our goals are

    1.extend ky lead to 35+

    2.close all the gap in oregon or stay within the 2%

  110. which one hallow
    i am pasting here links from TAYLORMARSH

    they are always positive of hillary

  111. on taylor marsh – if u click hotdiaries it gives you links and news from so many different places
    so i always paste the good ones here and other hill places
    but may be i gotta read it carefully before paste it here -hun

  112. SONIA – The Philly News one. That one is negative, even though it outwardly is supposed to look positive. Why would a positive article publish “She even knew that he wasn’t able to control his libido.” That is a negative passage slipped in there, and I don’t like it.

  113. Thanks JB, will see if I can pick it up.

    You are so right about Schultz, i quit on him the day he compared Bill to Rove; wrote and told him so, the disgusting rat. Never listened again.

    I give up on so-called Progressive radio, they don’t speak for me.

    Must get back to work, thanks again. Lesley.

  114. SONIA4HILLARY – I thought that Obama and Hillary were very close in OR. Let me look that up. Hrm. SUSA says that race is slightly tighter. The difference is that that race is mail-in ballots. This is why we need to call OR people today to send in their ballots TODAY, while the news is all Hillary friendly!

  115. hallow Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am
    SONIA – The Philly News one. That one is negative, even though it outwardly is supposed to look positive. Why would a positive article publish “She even knew that he wasn’t able to control his libido.” That is a negative passage slipped in there, and I don’t like it.

    oh i get it
    what u mean . i agree ,

    ADMIN – pls delete if u like to (i did not read all of it , i got it from tm so i thought wow one more person leaning to hillary)

  116. I don’t understand how every time Hillary wins a state, she doesn’t get that many delegates, but every time Obama wins, he gets tons. I guess this is the way proportional representation works out? I read somewhere that more “loyal” democratic counties get more delegate allocation than less loyal, so since AA’s vote democratic more often than any other demographic, he’s getting “extra” delegates just because all the AA’s vote for him. This is really unfair in my view. A vote should be a vote. If they were doing this fairly, Obama would only be getting something like 50-70% of the delegates from these districts. Does anyone else think that they should only be counting these votes for about 60% of what they are doing now? I don’t want my vote to take a back seat to someone else’s just because they live in a more “loyal” county. There’s no way she can catch up with all these unfair rules working against her. I want a fair fight! ;(

  117. LesleyESF – Yeah! I know what you mean! Ed Shultz was 100% pro-Hillary a few months ago, and now he is extremely negative towards her. I can’t listen to him any more. Too bad, he USED to be good.

  118. # Sherm Kader Says:
    May 14th, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Robert Novak still insists his big BHO rumor is true!

    On Fox a couple of hours ago he said he has checked it out with the Clinton campaign, and they say they are still trying to find a good way to release the information. He says they insist this will make BHO unelectable.

    He says they’ve told him this will be bigger than Rezko, Ayers, and anything else being discussed. He has volunteered to be the one to publish the story if they will simply give it to him.
    **************************************************
    I have heard since super Tuesday here and their (minimally) that the Clintons have been
    Trying to get the MSM to cover some stories on BO but they won’t do it.

    I am positive that they do have a HUGE DIRT PILE on BO

    And looks like Novac is about to break it! He did say on one of the shows
    Last night that HRC had a huge thing on BO and needed someone to break it
    And he said on MSM last night to Hillary he would do it! 😀 YEAH!!

    I have no reason to believe Novak, but it might help to explain why Hillary is confidently charging ahead while going deeper in debt. She seems very sure of getting the nomination, and maybe there is more to that than just politics. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe a story that important has not been leaked already. Maybe this old rumor is still only a rumor. I would love to believe it though.

  119. from HRC camp just now

    Dear ,

    There are some people out there who want to declare this race over now, before all the ballots have been counted or even cast. There are some who say they don’t know why I’m in this race. So let me tell you why I’m still running.

    I’m in this race for everyone who needs a champion. For the hardworking families who are losing sleep over gas prices and grocery costs and mortgage payments and medical bills — but who never lose that American can-do spirit and optimism.

    I’m in this race for the more than 16 million people like you who have supported me — for the people who have put their hearts into winning this race. You never gave up on me, and I’ll never give up on you.

    We are in the homestretch. After sixteen months, there are only three weeks left to compete in the final contests. With your help I’m going to keep fighting until every last American has a chance to be heard, and as we learned last night in West Virginia, I know we can win.

    Contribute now to keep our campaign going strong.

    I’m also in this race because I have the best chance of beating John McCain in November and putting America on the right track.

    We proved something in West Virginia last night — a state every Democratic president has won since 1916. And we proved something in a few other battleground states that have a history of picking presidents. Pennsylvania. Ohio. Arkansas. New Hampshire. New Jersey. New Mexico. Nevada. And, yes, Michigan and Florida.

    I am in this race, and so are you, because we both know the stakes in this election are too high to stay on the sidelines.

    So let’s keep going together, you and me. Let’s keep driving our campaign forward, and let’s keep winning.

    Make a contribution today to help me win.

    I want to thank you again for the incredible generosity of spirit you have shown over the course of this campaign. Together, you and I are going to make history.

    Thank you,

    Hillary Rodham Clinton

  120. hallow

    chin up…… you’re fighting the good fight!

    and a little hair of the dog never hurt 😀

  121. djia – I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope! 😀 😀 😀

    What do you think it is? Another affair?

  122. jbstonesfan Says:

    this one is mixed . basically freedom of speech within limits . hillary supporters , obama supporters and neutrals write disries about thier thoughts ,

    http://www.mydd.com/

  123. Quote:

    WASHINGTON – Barack Obama is in hot pursuit of general election voters, hoping America won’t notice he got his head handed to him in West Virginia.

  124. :evile: on cnn giving speech in MI to a small crowd……reading cue cards…..and stumbling as he reads LOL!!

    every one looks rather bored IMHO

  125. Hallow

    I don’t know, she said to novak it wasn’t rezko,ayers and it was bigger than those

    odinga? sinclair? employed by ayers for 8 years?

    D. all of the above???

  126. Was it ever confirmed by an unbiased news source that Clinton’s campaign did not pick up the phone when Obama was calling him? Obama snubs hard-working Americans, Clinton snubs him. Tit for tat. I have zero problem with this.

  127. what an ass, he just gave hillary’s green jobs that cant be outsourced speech….verbatim i might add!

  128. does anyone know when and where he will be in SD??

    I really want to go and ask him a question 👿

  129. djia – Oh, wow, I just realized how difficult it is going to tell when SD = Superdelegate vs. SD = South Dakota.

    I figured out eventually that you didn’t mean Obama was going to be in a superdelegate. That didn’t make sense. Duh.

  130. djia Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    does anyone know when and where he will be in SD??

    I really want to go and ask him a question

    ACTUALLY
    first ask him 1 from u

    and then keep asking 1 from each of us

    from me ask

    1. mr obama , pls name 57 states of usa
    2,mr obama, why r u offended by ur middle name HUSSIEN
    3.mr obama ,when can we come to see ur house to determine if michelle is running her house good or not since its according to her thats the main qualification of a president to be
    4, mr obama ,so when did the black america woke up as mrs obama had predicted
    5,mr obama , did u finish ur waffles???

  131. not sure but i did ask here the other day for suggestions 😀

    i certainly want it to be a “gotchya” question , one that would make the news like
    those bots that kept asking chelsea about monica

  132. Novak bullshit! It boils down to him saying something nasty about Hillary — blaming her in advance for anything that comes out soon about BO.

    IF the Clinton campaign were pushing some story, it would be showing up other places already. They wouldn’t give it to Novak, they’d give it to Fox.

    If Novak really had anything, he’d reveal it already.

    Maybe he’s been reading rezkowatch. 🙂

  133. i was thinking of something like

    I have followed the story of rev wright, and I noticed no one has asked and you have not answered YET
    as to how you could of sat in that church for 20 years and not know what the church and the rev were
    about……

    what can you say to me now to answer that queation…that will convince me that you did not know? and that you do not share
    those values ?

  134. Had Obama been properly vetted in the first place we would not be in this mess. Also, I truly believe that originally, we (Hillary) had the majority support of the DNC. Sadly, when Fl and Mich were penalized, and OB started racking up the #’s and money, their was a slow but significant shift lead by Dean, Kennedy, Pelosi, Brazile and other powerful dems. They probably didi not like Clinton from the start, but like all of us, though it would be a easy win for her…When BO showed the $$$$ and AA vote he could bring in, they turned on Clinton, and mainstream dems,
    for what they believe will be long term gains for the party-even if BO loses.
    What is very disconcerting to me is why, after finally being somewhat exposed for the hypocrite he is, haveno SD’s switched back to Clinton. I guess their minds are made up to go with the percieved no face of the party versus a proven leader like Hillary. Truly unsettling.

  135. I like SONIA’s questions, #1, #2, #4. Those are GREAT!

    I’ll see if I can think of any more.

    Maybe, “Why do you think the hard-working Americans in WV overwhelmingly rejected you? Is it because they were clinging to their guns and religion too much to go out and vote for you?”

  136. I don’t care what novak did or didn’t do………so long as he can bring BO down with Hillary’s info on BO

  137. oh yeah

    so mr obama since small town people are bitter

    what about ur wife ,why she is always bitter???

  138. I keep going over these delegate numbers and it’s just awful. MI and FL get no votes, but high AA counties get a vote and a half based on “loyalty.” We don’t even win these states in the general! And MI and FL are swing states! It’s really frustrating. 🙁 Is there any way Hillary can change these rules too at the end of May when we let MI and FL in so everyone gets one vote instead of a vote and a half. The sad thing is that she would have won a long time ago if there was a level playing field. She’s caught up in the popular vote, but Obama’s delegate count is disproportionately high due to welfare delegates. I say fix all the rules at once and end this nonsense. Let MI and FL count, and only count 60% of these delegates instead of giving him extra delegates for no reason at all. ONE MAN, ONE VOTE. I am tired of this.

  139. “Novak bullshit! It boils down to him saying something nasty about Hillary — blaming her in advance for anything that comes out soon about BO.”

    I absolutely agree with this. Novak is a Republican tool — and this story is just meant to reinforce the accusation that Hillary will do anything to win.

  140. “Senator Obama, can you SWEAR you were not in any way tied to the black power movement during your lifetime?”

    If he does swear, I bet there are ways that we could knock that down as completely false.

  141. “Senator Obama, how many times have you snorted cocaine, as you mentioned in your book ‘Dreams From My Father’?”

  142. EVERYONE

    i think , we should all start registering INDEPENDENT
    we should talk to our neighbors,relatives,family,and each other on blog site and within a week of time

    if we can do 2 or 5 million dems shifting to independent ,,,,that will give a message to DNC.

    what do u think??

    how do we do that ?

  143. Plural

    I hadn’t thought of that angle…..getting caught up in the excitement that finally someone might break
    the big blow on bo 😀

  144. what about ur wife ,why she is always bitter???

    is that why she and you clinged to PASTOR WRIGHT???

  145. sonia , without big money to get the word out……it would have to happen at a grassroots level

    once it begins, word will get around and then possibly the MSM will pick up the story about how
    dems are starting to switch to independant……then…..more will follow

    that is how the I won’t vote for BO , I will vote for McCain got started and has been growing in numbers
    ever since 😀

  146. The crap about the Clintons destroying their opponents makes me angry. What about Bush Sr, and Dole, and Perot. Did anybody see them destroyed? No, of course not. Bill won in fair campaigns without throwing dirt, but the Republicans and the Clinton-hating Dems don’t want people to remember that.

    Hillary has been winning with a positive message and by people finally seeing past the media’s lies to the person she really is.

  147. tabbylady – Careful, there are a lot of males on this board too. And transgendered people, maybe even. I know Hillary gets an overwhelming percent of the gay and trans vote.

  148. djia, you could also ask him if he knew Odingo’s supporters killed all those people after the election, and if his supporters are going to riot in Denver?

  149. You get a sense watching Brazile that she has a lot of control of the rules committee or she woudln’t have that fat, pompous look on her face….she sickens me as she cost us the election in 04 running a horrible campaign for Gore…she is a proven loser..

  150. “Senator Obama, why did you throw your grandmother under the bus during your speech on race? Why was she just a ‘typical white American’ to you?”

  151. does anyone know that DNC number off hand? I want to call them today and complain about their rules committee being rigged!

  152. Plural,

    The message needs to get out far and wide that it is Obama and his band of hateful men/women, i.e. Kennedy, Kerry, McGovern, McCaskill, Brazille, Michelle…et al… who are intent on destroying the party beyond recognition.

    Thank God Hillary is strong!!!

  153. I have a theory as to why Hillary’s campaign would not want to leak a damaging story on waffles just yet (assuming they have one). I think she wants to wait until all of the primary voting has completed. Why would she want to do that, you ask?

    Its because MSM would have a field day beating her up if they found out her campaign had leaked damaging info about waffles, and she doesn’t want to risk the potential fallout that might have in the remaining primaries. That’s particularly true now because the upcoming primaries, taken as a whole, look very good in terms of adding to her popular vote totals.

    Why not wait until afterwards, when she’s collected all of her votes. Her campaign could then drop the waffles bomb, and MSM could scream all they want… there would be no more primaries to affect.

    And once it’s out there, the SD’s would have all summer to mull over whatever damaging info she has on him. Deeeelicious!!!

  154. Hey, has anyone here donated their stimulus check to Hillary? Those people are true Americans. If I wasn’t suffering so much from the recession (do you know what food costs now! GEEZ!), I’d do it too.

  155. Yes..2000..sorry as my 2 yr old kept me up all night. Also, is there a spell check here and why when I type a certain # of letters, does the screen no longer appear???

  156. i found it!

    The AP is reporting that Barack Obama will be in South Dakota on Friday May 16th!. More details as they come available…

  157. MO . truthfully, is the power behind that man…it is “there” time….she scares me much more than him….I actually believe he is probably an OK guy, but she has full control and has played the race guilt to it’s fullest..she should be thanking woman like Hillary whom made it possible for her to go to Princeton and become a big shot atty….Hillary was defending children’s rights when MO was getting ahead through affirmative action programs the Clintons helped support…

  158. Remind me to NEVER follow a link to the Huffington Post ever again! There’s an article on there now called “Hillary’s Gift to Women” that my sister sent me (I am NOT going to link to it) and wowies, that is a load of cow dung right there. I think I might be banned from commenting there, but if I can find that author’s address, I will send her a letter personally, snail-mail.

  159. hallow Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    neetabug – Would that be considered a threat?

    Maybe, not sure if she really said this. Someone mentioned on this board this was said, not sure if it is true

  160. Has anyone figured out yet how many delegates she nets from WV? I’m trying but it’s complicated. Maybe Universal should do it. He seems pretty smart.

  161. I started off liking that site as well…then Arianna made it a pro Obama site and the hateful posts I would have with the Obamots were truly disturbing….I came here and initially was called a troll, but thankfully, I stuck it out.

  162. anyone who has ever gone to huffington post knows its a complete shill for 👿

    so i am pretty sure the only ones reading that site are the Daily Kooks LOL

  163. Very good point about Donna, and should be apply to Dean. So why do we have expert media (Donna), and leaders in the DNC that really have not performed that well.

    At least when Rove comes on, you know he has run two successful campaigns, regardless of what you think abou 2000, Bush was placed in the WH, and Rove put him there.

    So the only ones that have run Successful Democratic campagins in recent memory are the Clintons, and we are not listening to them. We are listening to Donna (who although she won the election lost to Rove), and Dean who could not make it close to any nomination.

    The Democrats are in trouble.

    Something is wrong here.

  164. When Hillary says she gets the white vote is is racist per MSM, but “typical white person” ignored. Also, why his anti-Israel stance has not been fully exposed is troubling. As a Jew, I ashamed of some of my fellow Jews supporting Bambi, including my loser Congressman Robert Wexler.

  165. hallow Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
    “Senator Obama, why did you throw your grandmother under the bus during your speech on race? Why was she just a ‘typical white American’ to you?”

    lol

    can i use that on noquarterusa ?

  166. Agreed, NewMexicoFan. Donna Brazile ran a HORRIBLE campaign for Al Gore, which he should have won by a LARGE margin. Here she is again, trying to resurrect her career by riding Obama’s coattails, and once again, she’s driving the party into the gutter. She’s an arrogant loudmouth who can’t hide her own biases to save her life.

  167. tabbylady – Yeah. Paul F. Villarreal is a smart cookie. But, I think it was 19 to 7, with probably some add-ons.

  168. # jbstonesfan Says:
    May 14th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    It was good to see Wolfson and McAuliffe fight back against BO’s agents at CNN and MSNBC…
    &&&&&&

    It has been nice to see Wolfson, McAuliffe et al sticking up for HRC. But I gotta ask about a couple of things Hillary’s surrogates regularly fail to mention:

    FL/MI got punished, but it is seldom pointed out that NH and SC moved up their dates too, with 0% punishment. That’s an incredibly potent talking point.

    Also, if “the rules are the rules”, it is seldom pointed out that DNC rules 1) proscribe 50% punishment, not 100%, and 2) that SDs are NOT AFFECTED (if someone knows to the contrary to point number two, please correct me). However, Terry M. brought that out in Russert’s face this past Sunday, to my relief. I remember, Russert though he had a “gotcha” moment reading from Terry’s own book, but TM set him straight about what is written in the DNC rules.

    I’m sure there are a few other things that get regularly overlooked when debunking “fairy tales”, where you want to throw stuff at the TV and say, “Why don’t you bring up ____ and shove it in so-and-so’s face”. Please feel free to add to this, so we can have a talking points list (or let us know where there are existing talking points list for us to look at and add to).

  169. Well, I just spoke with Ryan at the DNC, couldn’t say much about Brazile, but did say that they are trying to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida at the convention before the nominee is chosen. I told him that Howie was on National TV and said different, he said people are wrong, the Michigan and FLorida delegates will help decide the nominee. Apparently, they are recieving many calls today because he had to cut me off. He said lots of calls today. Just as many Bambi supporters call and say they are moving to the republican party as Hillary supporters!

  170. Is Obama in MI today because he’s pissed them off by not counting their votes, and because he knows he is going to lose so bad in KY that he doesn’t want to campaign there. Think about it, if Obama campaigns in KY, and he still loses by 30 points, it will look much worse than if he didn’t campaign there and lost by 35 points…as far as the MSM is concerned. Still, you can’t ignore states, not when the GE is ahead. I love Hillary because she does not ignore states.

  171. rgb44hrc wrote:

    FL/MI got punished, but it is seldom pointed out that NH and SC moved up their dates too, with 0% punishment. That’s an incredibly potent talking point.

    ——-

    Yes, yes, YES. We need to hammer home this point in the blogosphere.

  172. Just as many Bambi supporters call and say they are moving to the republican party as Hillary supporters!

    LOL! Let them. Hillary has a broader coalition, and Republicans will make mincemeat of the obambots.

  173. All votes count in the GE, and so all votes should count in the primary. None of this “breaking the rules” crap. Hillary stood firm on this from the beginning.

  174. rgb44hrc wrote:

    FL/MI got punished, but it is seldom pointed out that NH and SC moved up their dates too, with 0% punishment. That’s an incredibly potent talking point.

    Yes, and the “RULES” allow for 50% stripping of the delegates, not 100 %, so they broke their own rules. What a bunch of idiots.

  175. birdgal – The AA vote will go back to Hillary, just like they voted for her by like 90% before BHO came into the picture. They won’t be voting Republican. And she has the Latinos too, who BHO doesn’t.

  176. So, what the DNC has created, is a victory for the GOP. If obamabots or Hillary supporters defect to the GOP, they’ll win. The GOP must be licking their chops. Sorry for the crassness this a.m., but this situation is horrible and disgusting.

  177. birdgal – So you think we should have a “unity ticket” now? No thanks. Hillary isn’t #2 to anybody, and I’m not voting for a man who will make America smell like B.O.

  178. hallow Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    birdgal – The AA vote will go back to Hillary, just like they voted for her by like 90% before BHO came into the picture. They won’t be voting Republican. And she has the Latinos too, who BHO doesn’t.

    I know, but the Republicans do make mincemeat of the obamabots that post on the McCain site. Some of the responses are pretty funny.

  179. birdgal, I asked him why the other 4 states got permission to move and they would not give permission to Michigan and Florida? Ryan could not answer that! I also which democratic heads in Florida did not fight the moving up of the date. He said he did not know, but they were REpublicans and Democrats. I think Dean needs to come on Larry King so we can call in and ask these questions!

  180. I don’t like the idea of an unity ticket, because waffles and his angry, bitter wife are dangerous for this country.

  181. birdgal – Really? Which site? I’d love to make a fake account there as a McCain supporter to blast those stupid ‘bots directly on that site. They can’t post here, so I can’t argue with them directly (although I am glad this is a safe space). If they’re reading now though, let me tell them that YOU ARE CHOADS, OBAMBI IS GOING TO LOSE, AND YOU’RE ALL CRYBABIES BECAUSE HILLARY IS KICKING YOUR SORRY ASSES.

  182. confloyd: good questions. the answer is: gaming of the primary, and allowing the states that favored waffles to hold their primaries sooner. MI and FL were heavily favored for Hillary, so the DNC did not want her to have any early momentum, which would have given an advantage in the future primaries. It was set for waffles advantage. The entire fiasco has been a fix, which may have not been revealed, if Clinton had dropped out. As Bill says, “When they are asking you to drop out, it is because they are afraid that you will win.”

  183. The phrase of the day from the Media Whores is “symbolic victory“.

    They remind me of children that close their eyes and count to ten, hoping that something will just go away before they open their eyes again.

  184. I’m pissing myself laughing at some of the results last night

    They really didnt like Obama in Mingo county.

    Clinton 7,813
    Obama 712

    Thats 88% to 8%

    the whole county went Clinton Blue.

  185. To Do List:

    1) Make calls for Hillary, to Oregon and Kentucky voters: http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/

    2) Donate! If you’re maxed out or strapped for cash, ask 5 of your friends and family to donate to Hillary

    3) Blog! Get the word out, here, on other sites, and in letters to the editor to big Oregon and Kentucky newspapers. Talk about the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan, and the unfair treatment of those states’ voters by Dean and the DNC. New Hampshire and South Carolina moved their primaries, but received preferential treatment and weren’t punished at all.

  186. i am sorry guys
    i heard wrong

    its 1pm pst

    so 4 pm est

    i am so sorry for wrong info
    so we have 3 more hrs
    get the word out —when calling the voters in ky and oregon,,we can tell them to listen to her themselves at 4 pm est

  187. new KY polls out
    http://www.topnews.in/usa/new-kentucky-polls-kentucky-clinton-2362

    Sen. Hillary Clinton appears to be eying on another victory in row in the Bluegrass State – Kentucky, after defeating Sen. Barack Obama in West Virginia; that’s what the new Kentucky polls signal.

    Mason Dixon/Lexington Herald-Leader/WKYT Kentucky Poll conducted on 7 May – 9 May showed Clinton leading Obama by 27 % points – 58 % to 31 % among Kentucky Democratic primary voters. Conducted on sample size of 500, the poll, with Margin of error: ± 4.5 %, indicated a huge win for Clinton.

    Survey USA Kentucky Poll conducted on 9 May – 11 May showed Clinton leading Obama by 32 % points – 62 % to 30 % among Kentucky Democratic primary voters. Conducted on sample size of 641, the poll, with Margin of error: ± 3.8 %, indicated a massive victory for Clinton.

    With 51 delegates at stake, Kentucky is going for democratic primary polls on 20 May.

  188. rgb44hrc,

    FL/MI got punished, but it is seldom pointed out that NH and SC moved up their dates too

    As did Iowa.

  189. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

    The popular vote totals have been updated on RCP.

    Check out the “Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)” Hillary is ahead of BO again.
    Even if you count the estimated numbers from the caucuses too, Hillary is only behind by 0.22%, which she will easily make up in a blowout in Kentucky.

    There are 3,700,000 people in Oregon (according to the census) and 4,200,000 people in Kentucky. The blowout in Kentucky will SEVERELY overcome a small loss in OR. Hillary will, by May 20, have a popular vote lead by most measures!!

  190. ****UPDATE******

    Clinton, Obama S.D. locations

    We now know the locations, but not yet times for the South Dakota campaign appearances over the next two days by Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. After her primary win in West Virginia last night, Clinton will be in Aberdeen, S.D. tomorrow at a time TBD. So much for my Rapid City guess.

    Obama will make two stops on Friday, in Sioux Falls and Watertown. Give both credit for stopping in the hinterlands of flyover territory. And give Hillary credit for the West Virginia primary win, but she still likely can’t win the nomination. She got 20 delegates from WV victory, Obama took eight, leaving him with 1,885 and her 1,717. Obama is already campaigning in battleground states like Missouri and Michigan.

    There are now only five remaining primaries — May 20 in Kentucky and Oregon, June 1 in Puerto Rico and June 3 in South Dakota and Montana. There’s your morning horserace recap.

  191. Someone mention above Obama’s typical white grandmother. If I were her I would not only been insulted, but deeply hurt by his comments.
    Many from her generation would have not only disowned their daughter for marrying an AA, but would never have taken in a mixed race grandchild to raise. She was far from a typical white anything back then.

  192. greetings Hill-gang!

    Hillary Clinton is going to be our next President

    so lets get out the vote, hit the phones, email everyone and make it happen.

    Did everyone hear Hillary’s victory speech last night? She said a lot but the lady in the pants-suit wasn’t singing. We got a mountain to move! Lets do it.

  193. I’ve heard that Mike Drudge of drudgereport.com is gay. Do you think that he has a gay mancrush on Obama? For a Republican, he sure does have a lot of pro-BO articles on his site.

  194. dija and Sonia-

    Great questions. A more revealing question which might get picked up the media:

    “Senator Obama, would you like a cigarette? Do you prefer menthols? If you are running as such an honest candidate, why do you hide your smoking habit, to the point of banning all pictures of you smoking?”

    got a light?

  195. McAuliffe: Clinton has resources to last through Montana primary

    http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=8322961

    Despite being $20 million dollars in debt, the Chairman for Senator Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign says they have the resources to take their fight all the way through Montana’s last in the nation June 3rd primary.

    Terry McAuliffe, Hillary Clinton’s Presidential Campaign Chairman, spoke via conference call with Yellowstone County Democrats in Billings during their weekly breakfast today. McAuliffe touted Hillary Clinton’s win in West Virginia as evidence of the fact that the race is not over, citing the historic voter turnout in the Mountain State. “It’s over when someone reaches the magic number,” said McAuliffe, “She is winning elections; there is no reason to get out of this race.”

    Addressing concerns from the audience, McAuliffe reassured Democrats that the campaign has the resources to take its fight all the way through Montana’s June 3rd Primary.

    “We’ve been in the race now for 17 months. We have 3 weeks to go. Let’s let everybody vote.” McAuliffe added, “The end is gonna be big- its gonna be Montana that decides the next President of the United States.”

    Only five primaries remain. Democrats in Kentucky and Oregon vote next week, followed by Puerto Rico on June 1st, and Montana and South Dakota on June 3rd.

    According to the Associated Press, Obama is favored in Oregon and South Dakota, with Montana apparently more competitive and the others looking solid for Clinton.

  196. OMG.

    This is what the Herald Tribute reported. It can’t be true.

    “I think it’s likely Obama is the nominee, but not certain,” said Carville, the Democratic strategist who worked for Clinton in the 1992 campaign and is close to the couple. “I would have preferred another result, but I’m going to be for him.”

    “Everybody is going to be with Obama,” he added, referring to Clinton staff and supporters. “I have an undated check written out for Obama. I’ll send it when this is over.”

    Who is the Judas now, Carville? WHO?

  197. Poll: Nearly one-third of Dems would back Clinton indy bid

    h t t p : / / video1.washingtontimes.com/bellantoni/2008/05/poll_nearly_onethird_of_dems_w.html

    Let the rumors begin.

    A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows that 29 percent of Democrats would support Sen. Hillary Clinton running as an independent in the fall:

    Thirty-eight percent (38%) of Democratic voters nationwide now believe that Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race for the White House. That’s up slightly from 34% in late April, 32% earlier in April and 22% in late March.

    However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question.

    — Christina Bellantoni, national political reporter, The Washington Times

  198. Hallow,

    Not trying to be rude, but I’m just going to ignore comments like is Drudge gay and does he have a crush… Not sure what the point of them are or how they help Hillary.jmo

  199. JanH – It has been known that Drudge is gay for several years. It has been reported on several websites. As for the crush on Obama, that was just speculation.

  200. Okay, I’m sorry. I am very gay-friendly, and my best friend is gay. No harm meant by my comments.

  201. Okay. Yeah, I’ll drop it.

    Any other good news links today? Today is a WONDERFUL day for pro-Hillary news?

  202. hallow,

    LOL…I didn’t mean to offend, it’s just that the other side does stuff like this only worse.

  203. This will make your day!! 2 page article!!! 😀

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/136932

    Keeping Hope Alive

    West Virginia pushed back against the pundits who say Clinton can’t win.
    A beaming Clinton met this show of force with some forcefulness of her own in her victory speech, pledging to “carry on this campaign until everyone has had a chance to make their voices heard.” There were shouts of “We love you, Hillary!” when Clinton thanked West Virginia for “this overwhelming vote of confidence” and scattered boos when she spoke of the people “who wanted to declare a nominee before the ballots were counted or even cast.” It is no coincidence that West Virginia broke turnout records yesterday even though pundits have been saying for several days now that the race is over. More than a dozen Clinton supporters interviewed by NEWSWEEK said they believe Clinton can still win, and many faulted a biased media for prematurely writing her off.

    Helen Lambert, 76, said she and her husband drove to Charleston for the celebration because “it’s not over until the lady in the pantsuit says it’s over.” Lambert said she has been a resolute supporter of the Clintons for decades. But Hillary has a special place in Lambert’s heart. “She’s so brilliant and so experienced,” Lambert said. “She’s smarter than all of those men … I just don’t have any room in my brain or my heart for anybody but Hillary.” Phyllis Rutledge, 76, agreed, saying, “I know she’s gonna be president.”

    Keith Gwinn, 54, said he blames “the media hype” for prematurely ending the race. “If it is over why haven’t they declared him the winner?” he said in reference to the presumptive nominee, Sen. Barack Obama. Gwinn said he is eagerly anticipating the May 31 decision of the Democratic Party’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, which will decide whether and how much weight to allocate to Michigan and Florida voters. (The national party stripped both states of their delegations as punishment for holding their primaries early, a decision that may be reversed by the rules committee). Barbara Yeager, 71, went even further, saying she’d like to see Clinton take her bid all the way to Denver. Yeager said a contested convention would be a way for Clinton to defy the media and win the nomination; she believes a convention floor fight would be exciting—and wouldn’t hurt the party. “The media decides [the nomination] well in advance, and that’s a shame,” Yeager said. “TV has given her opponent way too much free time in coverage that she did not have equal access to.”

    Many in the crowd were hostile toward Obama. Jeanne Kendall, a 64-year-old lifelong Democrat from Eleanor, W. Va., thinks he’s arrogant and said she’ll sit out in November if he’s the nominee. “If Obama wanted to win in West Virginia he should have made more visits,” she said. “I don’t think he thinks we come up to his standards.”

    There was an ugly tone to some of the crowd’s comments about Obama. Menina Parsons, a 45-year-old Democrat from Milton, said she will not vote if Obama becomes the nominee. She said she is concerned about his “black supremacist” preacher and worries that Obama has family ties to radical Muslims (which is not true). Parsons said that because of these alleged ties, “if Obama gets in I’m concerned that the terrorist is gonna have an easier way in. I don’t think he’s real. I don’t think he’s American.” Margaret Conner, who said she is “100 percent” Democrat, said she’ll vote for McCain over Obama because she is alarmed by Obama’s association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and, more generally, she is suspicious of Obama’s “background, his heritage.” Conner said most of her Democratic friends also plan to vote Republican if Obama wins the nomination.

  204. Helen Lambert, 76, said she and her husband drove to Charleston for the celebration because “it’s not over until the lady in the pantsuit says it’s over.” Lambert said she has been a resolute supporter of the Clintons for decades. But Hillary has a special place in Lambert’s heart. “She’s so brilliant and so experienced,” Lambert said. “She’s smarter than all of those men … I just don’t have any room in my brain or my heart for anybody but Hillary.” Phyllis Rutledge, 76, agreed, saying, “I know she’s gonna be president.”

    I love this!!

  205. I don’t think Carville is being a Judas…even Hillary and Bill have said they will support him if he gets the nomination. They have to say those things for the party despite their real feelings. Richardson, however, is a Judas b/c he was a nothing congressman until Bill took him under his wings….he is a disloyal , disingenuous band wagon jumper…but truthfully, does anyone have a rationale explanation for the many one time Clinton loyalists turning their back on them now??? It is amazing how they jumped the ship….only one who seems loyal is madeline Albright .

  206. Senator Hillary Clinton returns to Southern California
    Thursday, May 15, 2008
    Please join us for these exciting events!

    Orange County Cocktail Reception with Senator Hillary Clinton:
    At 5:00 p.m. join Hillary for an afternoon reception in Newport Beach. The cost of the general reception is $250 person or $1,250 for VIP photo reception. For more information or to RSVP please go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/oc or call (310) 785-9029.

    Los Angeles Reception with Senator Hillary Clinton:
    At 7:30 p.m. please join us in welcoming Hillary back to Los Angeles for a cocktail reception at the Century Plaza Hotel. The cost of the event is $150 per person for cocktail reception and $1,250 for VIP photo reception. For more information or to RSVP, please go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/losangeles or call (310) 785-9029

    Space is limited, please respond today. We look forward to seeing you on the 15th!

    I RCV,D THIS E-MAIL

    if i want to go ,,how i do it , i am already maxed out myself ,

    so i guess just have hubby or brother in law pick up the tab ,,hah

  207. Obama also was associated with some entertainer who was gaybashing but got a pass on that too….

  208. SONIA4HILLARY – I know it has been said multiple times that giving money to the campaign, even through your husband or brother, is against the law, but if you maxed out and the campaign is still sending you e-mails like this…it seems to me that they’re certainly not going to turn you in. 😉

  209. Hallow, Carville has always said that. He’s just being diplomatic towards Obama, and helping Hillary by not appearing shrill. He is behind Hillary 100%, let there be no doubt! 😀

  210. It seems like on some other sites they are trying to get us(hill supporters) to unite once this is all over….this is like no other primary in my lifetime and I could never in good conscience vote for BO.

  211. dbstonesfan – You don’t have to answer this, but how old are you? Were you around for the 1980 election?

  212. i just heard

    andrea at msnbc shun obama staffers very good

    she grilled them
    she said ..if obama can not win swing states now how will he win them in general election????

    i hopw she stays like this

  213. # Joe Friday Says:
    May 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    rgb44hrc,
    “FL/MI got punished, but it is seldom pointed out that NH and SC moved up their dates too”
    &&&&
    As did Iowa.

    ###
    Joe Friday, Confloyd said “four other states” in addition to FL/MI moved up.

    a) when was Iowa supposed to go? did they jump forward because NH moved ahead of them?

    b) what may have been the fourth “other” state?

  214. go andrea

    looks like she went to rehab for koolaid addiction and now she is sober ,,i hope she stays in her brains

  215. EVERYONE-
    THIS IS URGENT!!!

    NARAL will be announcing in a few hours that they are endorsing Barack Obama.
    Everyone needs to call them in protest.

    Call as many of these numbers as you can-and send emails—-NOW!

    Pass this along to EVERYONE that will help—-LET’S GO!!!

    Just some talking points of what Clinton has done for them:

    -Received several national NARAL awards…

    – Raised money for them

    – Spoke at their march

    -Led the fight on emergency contraceptives/Plan B. (to keep it safe,legal and over the counter)

    NARAL Pro-Choice America
    1156 15th Street, NW Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005

    Main Number: 202.973.3000
    Main Fax: 202.973.3096
    Membership Information: membership@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    Director of Affiliate Development
    1156 15th St, NW, Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 973-3000
    field@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Arizona
    info@prochoicearizona.org
    http://www.prochoicearizona.org http://www.prochoicearizona.org>
    Phone: 480.834.3274

    NARAL Pro-Choice California
    info@prochoicecalifornia.org
    http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org>
    Phone: 415.890.1020
    Fax: 415.890.1025

    NARAL Pro-Choice Colorado
    choice@prochoicecolorado.org
    http://www.prochoicecolorado.org http://www.prochoicecolorado.org>
    Phone: 303.394.1973
    Fax: 303.388.1692

    NARAL Pro-Choice Connecticut
    info@pro-choicect.org
    http://www.pro-choicect.org/ http://www.pro-choicect.org/>
    Phone: 860.524.1086
    Fax: 860.524.1092
    Illinois Choice Action Team
    info@ilchoiceactionteam.org
    http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org>

    NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland
    info@prochoicemaryland.org
    http://www.prochoicemaryland.org http://www.prochoicemaryland.org>
    Phone: 301.565.4154
    Fax: 301.588.5790

    NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts
    choice@prochoicemass.org
    http://www.prochoicemass.org/ http://www.prochoicemass.org/>
    Phone: 617.556.8800
    Fax: 617.338.2532

    MARAL Pro-Choice Michigan
    maral@prochoicemichigan.org
    http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/ http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/>
    Phone: 248.242.0140

    NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota
    info@prochoiceminnesota.org
    http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/ http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/>
    Phone: 651.602.7655
    Fax: 651.602.7658

    NARAL Pro-Choice Missouri
    info@prochoicemissouri.org
    http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/ http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/>
    Phone: 314.531.8616
    Fax: 314.531.8615

    NARAL Pro-Choice Montana
    prochoice@mt.net
    http://www.prochoicemontana.org/ http://www.prochoicemontana.org/>
    Phone: 406.443.0276
    Fax: 406.442.4801

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Hampshire
    info@prochoicenewhampshire.org
    http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/ http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/>
    Phone: 603.228.1224
    Fax: 603.226.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Jersey
    prochoicenj@prochoicenj.org
    http://www.prochoicenj.org/ http://www.prochoicenj.org/>
    Phone: 609.439.4516
    Fax: 609.392.0244

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Mexico
    info@prochoicenewmexico.org
    http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org>
    Phone: 505.243.4443
    Fax: 505.243.4403

    NARAL Pro-Choice New York
    info@prochoiceny.org
    http://www.prochoiceny.org/ http://www.prochoiceny.org/>
    Phone: 212.343.0114
    Fax: 212.343.0119

    NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina
    info@prochoicenorthcarolina.org
    http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/ http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/>
    Phone: 919.829.9779
    Fax: 919.827.8779

    NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio
    choice@prochoiceohio.org
    http://www.prochoiceohio.org/ http://www.prochoiceohio.org/>
    Phone: 216.283.2180
    Fax: 216.283.2184

    NARAL Pro-Choice Oregon
    info@prochoiceoregon.org
    http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/ http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/>
    Phone: 503.223.4510
    Fax: 503.223.0251

    NARAL Pro-Choice Pennsylvania
    info@prochoicepennsylvania.org
    http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/ http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/>
    Phone: 215.545.4666

    NARAL Pro-Choice South Dakota
    info@prochoicesd.org
    http://www.prochoicesd.org http://www.prochoicesd.org>
    Phone: 605.334.5065

    NARAL Pro-Choice Texas
    info@prochoicetexas.org
    http://www.prochoicetexas.org/ http://www.prochoicetexas.org/>
    Phone: 512.462.1661
    Fax: 512.462.2007

    NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
    info@naralva.org
    http://www.naralva.org http://www.naralva.org>
    Phone: 202.973.3085

    NARAL Pro-Choice Washington
    info@prochoicewashington.org
    http://www.prochoicewashington.org http://www.prochoicewashington.org>
    Phone: 206.624.1990
    Fax: 206.624.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin
    info@prochoicewisconsin.org
    http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/ http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/>
    Phone: 608.287.0016
    Fax: 608.287.0176

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wyoming
    naralprochoicewy@netscape.net
    Phone: 307.742.9189
    Fax: 307.742.9189

  216. “It seems like on some other sites they are trying to get us(hill supporters) to unite once this is all over….this is like no other primary in my lifetime and I could never in good conscience vote for BO.”

    I say, let them push for unity. Once this is over and Hillary is the nominee, they can’t go back and say that they won’t vote for her.

  217. iowa did not move up

    but mr kissass waffles wanted to impress of people of iowa and wanted to impress sd,s of iowa ,,so he removed his name from michigan ballot and did propaganda about it ,,that oh look ,,,i am giving most importance to iowa only ;;;;

    he won iowa and refused the re-vote in michigan and wants 50/50 delegate of michigan saying well,,i was not even on the ballot which he chose to do that

  218. Sonia-

    call your local office and see if you can attend. If you are maxed out it shouldn’t be a problem. You are free to convince your family and friends to make a donation but you cant give them money to do so.

  219. sonia: exactly; plus, Hillary was ahead in MI, and he did not want her to have an early victory.

  220. EVERYONE-
    THIS IS URGENT!!!

    I am a supporter of NARAL and just learned through their office that will be announcing in a few hours that they are endorsing Barack Obama.
    Everyone needs to call them in protest.

    Call as many of these numbers as you can-and send emails—-NOW!

    Pass this along to EVERYONE that will help—-LET’S GO!!!

    Just some talking points of what Clinton has done for them:

    -Received several national NARAL awards…

    – Raised money for them

    – Spoke at their march

    -Led the fight on emergency contraceptives/Plan B. (to keep it safe,legal and over the counter)

    NARAL Pro-Choice America
    1156 15th Street, NW Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005

    Main Number: 202.973.3000
    Main Fax: 202.973.3096
    Membership Information: membership@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    Director of Affiliate Development
    1156 15th St, NW, Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 973-3000
    field@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Arizona
    info@prochoicearizona.org
    http://www.prochoicearizona.org “>http://www.prochoicearizona.org>
    Phone: 480.834.3274

    NARAL Pro-Choice California
    info@prochoicecalifornia.org
    http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org “>http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org>
    Phone: 415.890.1020
    Fax: 415.890.1025

    NARAL Pro-Choice Colorado
    choice@prochoicecolorado.org
    http://www.prochoicecolorado.org “>http://www.prochoicecolorado.org>
    Phone: 303.394.1973
    Fax: 303.388.1692

    NARAL Pro-Choice Connecticut
    info@pro-choicect.org
    http://www.pro-choicect.org/ http://www.pro-choicect.org/>
    Phone: 860.524.1086
    Fax: 860.524.1092
    Illinois Choice Action Team
    info@ilchoiceactionteam.org
    http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org “>http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org>

    NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland
    info@prochoicemaryland.org
    http://www.prochoicemaryland.org “>http://www.prochoicemaryland.org>
    Phone: 301.565.4154
    Fax: 301.588.5790

    NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts
    choice@prochoicemass.org
    http://www.prochoicemass.org/ http://www.prochoicemass.org/>
    Phone: 617.556.8800
    Fax: 617.338.2532

    MARAL Pro-Choice Michigan
    maral@prochoicemichigan.org
    http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/ http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/>
    Phone: 248.242.0140

    NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota
    info@prochoiceminnesota.org
    http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/ http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/>
    Phone: 651.602.7655
    Fax: 651.602.7658

    NARAL Pro-Choice Missouri
    info@prochoicemissouri.org
    http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/ http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/>
    Phone: 314.531.8616
    Fax: 314.531.8615

    NARAL Pro-Choice Montana
    prochoice@mt.net
    http://www.prochoicemontana.org/ http://www.prochoicemontana.org/>
    Phone: 406.443.0276
    Fax: 406.442.4801

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Hampshire
    info@prochoicenewhampshire.org
    http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/ http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/>
    Phone: 603.228.1224
    Fax: 603.226.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Jersey
    prochoicenj@prochoicenj.org
    http://www.prochoicenj.org/ http://www.prochoicenj.org/>
    Phone: 609.439.4516
    Fax: 609.392.0244

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Mexico
    info@prochoicenewmexico.org
    http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org “>http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org>
    Phone: 505.243.4443
    Fax: 505.243.4403

    NARAL Pro-Choice New York
    info@prochoiceny.org
    http://www.prochoiceny.org/ http://www.prochoiceny.org/>
    Phone: 212.343.0114
    Fax: 212.343.0119

    NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina
    info@prochoicenorthcarolina.org
    http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/ http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/>
    Phone: 919.829.9779
    Fax: 919.827.8779

    NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio
    choice@prochoiceohio.org
    http://www.prochoiceohio.org/ http://www.prochoiceohio.org/>
    Phone: 216.283.2180
    Fax: 216.283.2184

    NARAL Pro-Choice Oregon
    info@prochoiceoregon.org
    http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/ http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/>
    Phone: 503.223.4510
    Fax: 503.223.0251

    NARAL Pro-Choice Pennsylvania
    info@prochoicepennsylvania.org
    http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/ http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/>
    Phone: 215.545.4666

    NARAL Pro-Choice South Dakota
    info@prochoicesd.org
    http://www.prochoicesd.org “>http://www.prochoicesd.org>
    Phone: 605.334.5065

    NARAL Pro-Choice Texas
    info@prochoicetexas.org
    http://www.prochoicetexas.org/ http://www.prochoicetexas.org/>
    Phone: 512.462.1661
    Fax: 512.462.2007

    NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
    info@naralva.org
    http://www.naralva.org “>http://www.naralva.org>
    Phone: 202.973.3085

    NARAL Pro-Choice Washington
    info@prochoicewashington.org
    http://www.prochoicewashington.org “>http://www.prochoicewashington.org>
    Phone: 206.624.1990
    Fax: 206.624.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin
    info@prochoicewisconsin.org
    http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/ http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/>
    Phone: 608.287.0016
    Fax: 608.287.0176

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wyoming
    naralprochoicewy@netscape.net
    Phone: 307.742.9189
    Fax: 307.742.9189

  221. thx
    ronald

    i never knew that it was not allowed
    i thought it is between family ,its not bribe or stealing
    but i guess thats the law

    so thats why okkie was mad at me ,i get it

    okkie come back , i am sorry

  222. 45 yrs old….born 1962. I remember 1980, but I was starting my first year at Univ of Florida . I came from a strong democratic family and actually supported Kennedy’s bid to win the nomination back then…Like I said, I am embarrassed that I idolized Kennedy all these yrs when in fact, he is nothing more than a fat bag of wind…

  223. okkie

    i registered to vote for the first time last yr in oct 2007 outside of a walmart

    i always hated politice ,,but hillary inspired me . i was not aware of the election laws or blogging rules , i should have been more careful. i understand u r one of the senior bloggers here .

    once again , i apologize for making u mad
    pls come back . if u want , i will blog somewhere else , at least say something
    u want my phone number ,call me ,,yell at me,,cuss at me take all anger out
    i see a lot of people ,everybody misses u
    pls plsplsplsplsplspls

  224. EVERYONE-
    THIS IS URGENT!!!

    NARAL will be announcing in a few hours that they are endorsing Barack Obama.
    Everyone needs to call them in protest.

    Call as many of these numbers as you can-and send emails—-NOW!

    Pass this along to EVERYONE that will help—-LET’S GO!!!

    Just some talking points of what Clinton has done for them:

    -Received several national NARAL awards…

    – Raised money for them

    – Spoke at their march

    -Led the fight on emergency contraceptives/Plan B. (to keep it safe,legal and over the counter)

    NARAL Pro-Choice America
    1156 15th Street, NW Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005

    Main Number: 202.973.3000
    Main Fax: 202.973.3096
    Membership Information: membership@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    Director of Affiliate Development
    1156 15th St, NW, Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 973-3000
    field@ProChoiceAmerica.org

  225. IA, NH, NV, and SC moved up.

    In 2004, IA was January 19, so January 3 was a big jump forward.

  226. This was a link on this web site to the Wayne Barrett piece that was on HuffPost 4/3/2008, called “Could Republicans Pick the Democratic Nominee?”.

    http://www.alternet.org/election08/80993

    It is a thorough exposition about how FL / MI got where they are, DNC and Dean’s roles, and is a good reference document when it comes to arming yourself to the teeth with talking points.

  227. I wonder if the obamabots will jump at the chance to present a united front if the shoe is on the other foot?

    How eager will they be for unity when Hillary shuts Obama down and becomes the nominee???

  228. SONIA4HILLARY – NARAL is a huge pro-choice group in the U.S.

    NOW endorsed Hillary, though, right?

    I’m never donating to NARAL ever again for this. I’ve even volunteered for them. They are kicking a woman’s right to choose right in the teeth by doing this.

  229. Call Naral….esp your state affiliates….hit them hard. tell them they will never get another dime from you.

  230. JanH Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    we became this way because of the media injustice and us hill supporters getting abused by obama supp

    but obama supporters are spoiled brats whose bills get paid by daddy and mommy

    so so if hillary gets the ticket ,they will create 1968 chaos ..and they will get violent ,thats what i read at noquarterusa like 3 or 4 days ago -some 400,000obama supporters have already signed something stating that

    and ofcourse

    we have donna brazile,,martin,clyburn,al sharpton throwing more oil in that fire on national tv ,,these r important figures and even they have said that

  231. Hillary Clinton is more pro-choice in her little pinky than Obambi is in his whole tiny brain.

  232. oh
    i get it

    obamam probabaly gave a big donation to them ,so all the women voters can look at him twice and may be move away from him
    thay r stupid

    kerry,kennedy,patrick all from massachsets endorsed obama and still obamam lost by 10% ,,so

    so voters r not stupid ,,

  233. Yep, Obama bought that endorsement! He has bought a lot of endorsements, he is still losing the swing states. What happened I could not get on here for a couple of minutes. Guess the bots were lurking to see what we think about that endorsement. Hey, Bots it doesn’t matter a hill a beans! We women are not stupid! Pro choice is not the only reason we women are supporting Hill, you people are idiots!

  234. For any pro choice group to endorse Obama is an affront to all the woman who fought their right to chose ….this is simply outrageous. Is this a predominantly AA organization?

  235. Sonia,

    To be fair, I do agree that some of Obama’s supporter demographics do include those in higher income brackets and some are definitely spoiled…sigh… I honestly believe that there are those who are in every income bracket and some who do not see him as the rest of us do, maybe because of race, and maybe because they just cannot accept Hillary.

    The noble side of me hopes that many Obama supporters (not those who blog with hate but the many more who don’t) will go to Hillary when Obama is no longer an option.

  236. JanH, I really wish people would not use the word “noble”, it makes me think of that nasty women abusing Kennedy!

  237. I called the national and my state office. There is a special place in hell, for women who not support other women. This is an outrage and a slap in the face to Hillary and every woman out there. Obama has no history with a woman right to choose. What a shame.

  238. Clyburn actually got the race thing going by using his influence in SC to suggest Bill had to be careful with his words..yet, he remains uncommitted..lmao!!!

  239. I was watching the video on noquarter and I find myself agreeing completely with Sean Hannity. He said that if we are just starting right now, now that all of the negative stuff about Obama is out, Obama would not have a chance in Iowa and would not have made it to Super Tuesday.

    He’s right. A lot of the folks who voted for him the earlier states are regretting their votes.

  240. I know that ABM90 doesn’t like the rap (that’s okay! A lot of people don’t!) but I thought of this one as Hillary was kicking @ss last night.

    And with the local news, Hillary Clinton with a triumphant comeback
    [mumbling]
    but tonite…

    Don’t call it a comeback
    She’s been here for years
    Rockin my peers and puttin suckas in fear
    Makin the tears rain down like a monsoon
    Listen to the bass go BOOM
    Explosion, overpowerin
    Over the competition, She’s towerin
    Wreckin shop, when I drop these lyrics that’ll make you call the cops
    Don’t you dare stare, you betta move
    Don’t ever compare
    Her to the rest that’ll all get sliced and diced
    Competition’s payin the price

    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out

    Breakdown!!!

    Shadow boxin when I heard you on the radio (HUUUH!!!)
    I just don’t know
    What made you forget that she was raw?
    But now she has a new tour
    She’s goin insane, startin the hurricane, releasin pain
    Lettin you know that you can’t gain, I maintain
    Unless ya say her name
    Rippin, killin
    Diggin and drillin a hole
    Pass the Ol’ Gold

    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out
    I’m gonna knock you out
    Hillary said knock you out

  241. Exactly, rickya. Iowa was a million years ago, in political time. The post-Wright, post-bitter-cling-to-religion landscape has shifted dramatically. Obama’s McGovern / Dukakis-style coalition of only academics and African Americans would bring ’72 and ’84 style results.

  242. I believe this endorsement is a thing like Operation Chaos. It is meant to split us apart so he can get some of our votes!
    Men are running the show over at Obama inc., bc they can’t fanthom what we are all about, it’s not just pro-choice, what idiots!

  243. NARAL shame! then again many lost faith in it yrs ago when they had no campaign to fight alito. none. not even coordianted ads targeting key senators. shameful. under keenan it has lost tis way-basically a website now. but for godsake not backing a woman for prez for some jerk who has never stood like hillary for women?

  244. Obama is an elitist, patronizing prick, let’s face it. The “hey, sweetie” comment by him to a reporter just drives the point home.

  245. We should also call state affiliates, I just had a long talk with the exec director of MA. Who needs a number for a state?

  246. Plural wrote:

    IA, NH, NV, and SC moved up.

    EXACTLY. The Donna Brazile – Howard Dean pro-Obama cabal over at the DNC had no problem with those states, because they thought Obama could win them.

    Meanwhile, Obama never had a PRAYER of winning Michigan (lots of working-class white voters, his weakness) and he never had a PRAYER of winning Florida (lots of senior citizens and Latinos, more weaknesses) so they tried to disenfranchise those states’ voters. Could it be ANY MORE OBVIOUS?! Leave it to CNN and big media to miss the entire story, per usual.

  247. more on how naral screwed women over-www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/18/donating-to-naral-is-not-going-to-help-protect-a-womans-right-to-choice/

  248. rjk1957 – I don’t know about that. And endorsement of Hillary Clinton by Al Gore or John Edwards could sway some other SDs yet.

  249. URGENT ALERT: Contact NARAL TODAY!!

    We heard that NARAL intends to endorse Barack Obama without having consulted their state chapters. Please call the national NARAL office (202-973-3000) and your state chapters to find out if this is true.

    Please reply back to us if you find out any news.

    NARAL Pro-Choice America affiliate
    Contact Info:

    Director of Affiliate Development
    1156 15th St, NW, Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 973-3000
    field@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Arizona
    info@prochoicearizona.org
    http://www.prochoicearizona.org
    Phone: 480.834.3274

    NARAL Pro-Choice California
    info@prochoicecalifornia.org
    http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org
    Phone: 415.890.1020
    Fax: 415.890.1025

    NARAL Pro-Choice Colorado
    choice@prochoicecolorado.org
    http://www.prochoicecolorado.org
    Phone: 303.394.1973
    Fax: 303.388.1692

    NARAL Pro-Choice Connecticut
    info@pro-choicect.org
    http://www.pro-choicect.org/
    Phone: 860.524.1086
    Fax: 860.524.1092

    Illinois Choice Action Team
    info@ilchoiceactionteam.org
    http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland
    info@prochoicemaryland.org
    http://www.prochoicemaryland.org
    Phone: 301.565.4154
    Fax: 301.588.5790

    NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts
    choice@prochoicemass.org
    http://www.prochoicemass.org/
    Phone: 617.556.8800
    Fax: 617.338.2532

    MARAL Pro-Choice Michigan
    maral@prochoicemichigan.org
    http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/
    Phone: 248.242.0140

    NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota
    info@prochoiceminnesota.org
    http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/
    Phone: 651.602.7655
    Fax: 651.602.7658

    NARAL Pro-Choice Missouri
    info@prochoicemissouri.org
    http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/
    Phone: 314.531.8616
    Fax: 314.531.8615

    NARAL Pro-Choice Montana
    prochoice@mt.net
    http://www.prochoicemontana.org/
    Phone: 406.443.0276
    Fax: 406.442.4801

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Hampshire
    info@prochoicenewhampshire.org
    http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/
    Phone: 603.228.1224
    Fax: 603.226.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Jersey
    prochoicenj@prochoicenj.org
    http://www.prochoicenj.org/
    Phone: 609.439.4516
    Fax: 609.392.0244

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Mexico
    info@prochoicenewmexico.org
    http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org
    Phone: 505.243.4443
    Fax: 505.243.4403

    NARAL Pro-Choice New York
    info@prochoiceny.org
    http://www.prochoiceny.org/
    Phone: 212.343.0114
    Fax: 212.343.0119

    NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina
    info@prochoicenorthcarolina.org
    http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/
    Phone: 919.829.9779
    Fax: 919.827.8779

    NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio
    choice@prochoiceohio.org
    http://www.prochoiceohio.org/
    Phone: 216.283.2180
    Fax: 216.283.2184

    NARAL Pro-Choice Oregon
    info@prochoiceoregon.org
    http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/
    Phone: 503.223.4510
    Fax: 503.223.0251

    NARAL Pro-Choice Pennsylvania
    info@prochoicepennsylvania.org
    http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/
    Phone: 215.545.4666

    NARAL Pro-Choice South Dakota
    info@prochoicesd.org
    http://www.prochoicesd.org
    Phone: 605.334.5065

    NARAL Pro-Choice Texas
    info@prochoicetexas.org
    http://www.prochoicetexas.org/
    Phone: 512.462.1661
    Fax: 512.462.2007

    NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
    info@naralva.org
    http://www.naralva.org
    Phone: 202.973.3085

    NARAL Pro-Choice Washington
    info@prochoicewashington.org
    http://www.prochoicewashington.org
    Phone: 206.624.1990
    Fax: 206.624.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin
    info@prochoicewisconsin.org
    http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/
    Phone: 608.287.0016
    Fax: 608.287.0176

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wyoming
    naralprochoicewy@netscape.net
    Phone: 307.742.9189
    Fax: 307.742.9189

    TOGETHER, WE WILL WIN!

  250. I thought anne kornblut was like dead and buried and then i look up and see her back on MSNBC! ewwwww!!!!

  251. Al Gore and Edwards will never endorse hillary ever! They are so vile at this point! I love Gore but he as you know does not like the clintons!

  252. I read Edwards is in Michigan today, so is Obama! What is you alls take on that bit of information?
    Have we got any new sd’s today?

  253. Anyone familiar with my posts know I don’t think much of Edwards. He’s an opportunist. He’s about as populist as John McCain is making himself out to be.

    I like Elizabeth, but her husband is an ambitious creep. It would not surprise me if he endorsed BO. In fact, it’s what I had always anticipated.

    Unfortunately, Edwards may be able to sway his supporters behind BO. Whatever I may think of him, he’s well-loved by his supporters.

  254. Edwards may be waiting to see what happens with MI and FL. He does not want to endorse the loser in this race and is waiting so he ends up on the winning side.

  255. Well, I have taken my vacation for the convention and I will be happy for a floor fight! We will not be beaten in to submission!

  256. Agreed..Gore a Clinton hater via his former campaign manager Brazile…Edwards, unlike his wife, is a coward going with the winner. Bo has somehow been able to line up SD’s in a manner to come out when he most needs them…Hillary, god bless her, has had trouble convincing the undecided to go with her. I believe the Sd’s are being manipulated and caustioned by the party elders not to rock the Obama float ….

  257. confloyd…….I have been telling my hubby that me and canon (camera) are heading for denver in august 😀

    I haven’t made reservations, I figure they are pretty locked up by now, so it will be me and my truck LOL

    but oh so worth it!!

    as we get closer to convention……we will have to set up a Hillaryis44 meet up in Denver !!

  258. filbertsf, I have not liked John Edwards since before I didn’t like Bambi! I thought Johnnyboy was a little nasty to Hillary during the debates. It is so apparent that he is an opportunist it not even funny! He is a loser just like Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle and Gore! He is just trying to ride the coattails of a real winner in the WH. He only cares about himself!

  259. djia, yeah I for that! It’ll be me and my truck too. Probably have to stay further away from the center in order to get a room now, might even have to camp out!LOL! Whatever, we have to do, we will all do!

  260. filbert…..

    I was a JRE supporter…….and i am on the fence as of now how i feel about him……that aside

    I think his supporters split pretty evenly 3 ways between HRC and BHO and those that are still committed to JRE

    the women have mostly went for HRC big time. (especially at my county convention) I don’t think we have much to
    fear from his supporters tipping the scale so much to make a huge difference…..BO still needs to win women over as we are the largest voting block there is!!! and we are nearly 80% in hillary’s camp and not going anywhere! …just my 2 cents.

  261. Well if we can get that sweety momment out to the public that would do wonders on his female votes or his cell phone in the pants joke! Any news on Tony Rezko yet?

  262. naral wont survive finanially their decision-make sure they know-
    NARAL’s donations will dry up from at least half the population of this country. I’m not a member, nor do I give (this endorsement is just one reason I don’t, because I don’t trust these women), but plenty of women I know do.

    Get on the phone: Nancy Keenan, 202-973-3000. Email.

    NARAL Pro-Choice America affiliate Contact Info:

    Director of Affiliate Development
    1156 15th St, NW, Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 973-3000
    field@ProChoiceAmerica.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Arizona
    info@prochoicearizona.org
    http://www.prochoicearizona.org
    Phone: 480.834.3274

    NARAL Pro-Choice California
    info@prochoicecalifornia.org
    http://www.prochoicecalifornia.org
    Phone: 415.890.1020
    Fax: 415.890.1025

    NARAL Pro-Choice Colorado
    choice@prochoicecolorado.org
    http://www.prochoicecolorado.org
    Phone: 303.394.1973
    Fax: 303.388.1692

    NARAL Pro-Choice Connecticut
    info@pro-choicect.org
    http://www.pro-choicect.org/
    Phone: 860.524.1086
    Fax: 860.524.1092

    Illinois Choice Action Team
    info@ilchoiceactionteam.org
    http://www.ilchoiceactionteam.org

    NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland
    info@prochoicemaryland.org
    http://www.prochoicemaryland.org
    Phone: 301.565.4154
    Fax: 301.588.5790

    NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts
    choice@prochoicemass.org
    http://www.prochoicemass.org/
    Phone: 617.556.8800
    Fax: 617.338.2532

    MARAL Pro-Choice Michigan
    maral@prochoicemichigan.org
    http://www.prochoicemichigan.org/
    Phone: 248.242.0140

    NARAL Pro-Choice Minnesota
    info@prochoiceminnesota.org
    http://www.prochoiceminnesota.org/
    Phone: 651.602.7655
    Fax: 651.602.7658

    NARAL Pro-Choice Missouri
    info@prochoicemissouri.org
    http://www.prochoicemissouri.org/
    Phone: 314.531.8616
    Fax: 314.531.8615

    NARAL Pro-Choice Montana
    prochoice@mt.net
    http://www.prochoicemontana.org/
    Phone: 406.443.0276
    Fax: 406.442.4801

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Hampshire
    info@prochoicenewhampshire.org
    http://www.prochoicenewhampshire.org/
    Phone: 603.228.1224
    Fax: 603.226.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Jersey
    prochoicenj@prochoicenj.org
    http://www.prochoicenj.org/
    Phone: 609.439.4516
    Fax: 609.392.0244

    NARAL Pro-Choice New Mexico
    info@prochoicenewmexico.org
    http://www.prochoicenewmexico.org
    Phone: 505.243.4443
    Fax: 505.243.4403

    NARAL Pro-Choice New York
    info@prochoiceny.org
    http://www.prochoiceny.org/
    Phone: 212.343.0114
    Fax: 212.343.0119

    NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina
    info@prochoicenorthcarolina.org
    http://www.prochoicenorthcarolina.org/
    Phone: 919.829.9779
    Fax: 919.827.8779

    NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio
    choice@prochoiceohio.org
    http://www.prochoiceohio.org/
    Phone: 216.283.2180
    Fax: 216.283.2184

    NARAL Pro-Choice Oregon
    info@prochoiceoregon.org
    http://www.prochoiceoregon.org/
    Phone: 503.223.4510
    Fax: 503.223.0251

    NARAL Pro-Choice Pennsylvania
    info@prochoicepennsylvania.org
    http://www.prochoicepennsylvania.org/
    Phone: 215.545.4666

    NARAL Pro-Choice South Dakota
    info@prochoicesd.org
    http://www.prochoicesd.org
    Phone: 605.334.5065

    NARAL Pro-Choice Texas
    info@prochoicetexas.org
    http://www.prochoicetexas.org/
    Phone: 512.462.1661
    Fax: 512.462.2007

    NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
    info@naralva.org
    http://www.naralva.org
    Phone: 202.973.3085

    NARAL Pro-Choice Washington
    info@prochoicewashington.org
    http://www.prochoicewashington.org
    Phone: 206.624.1990
    Fax: 206.624.4505

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin
    info@prochoicewisconsin.org
    http://www.prochoicewisconsin.org/
    Phone: 608.287.0016
    Fax: 608.287.0176

    NARAL Pro-Choice Wyoming
    naralprochoicewy@netscape.net
    Phone: 307.742.9189
    Fax: 307.742.9189

  263. djia, Wow, that looks like a great place! Its very pretty! I don’t think the recreate68 crowd would go over there to get at us in the night! I liked it and I love to camp, so maybe we will do it!

  264. It’s times like these when you know who your friends really are. Even if Hillary doesn’t get the nom, I think Judas comes out looking pretty bad. Rahm Emanuel — who I thought was as loyal to the Clintons as one can get — is another disappointment. Although he hasn’t endorsed, it’s that lack of loyalty which has surprised me.

    You guys know that Rahm was Bill’s protege, right?

    I remember watching Rahm on Charlie Rose and he said basically said Bill was his political godfather.

  265. # Berkeley Vox Says:
    May 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Obama is an elitist, patronizing prick, let’s face it. The “hey, sweetie” comment by him to a reporter just drives the point home.
    &&&&

    He sed wha? That is so George Bush, with the nicknames. I bet he thinks it sounds charming. “From now on, you Obama Chi name is….”.

    His nickname could be: Smokey.

  266. confloyd……I just sent them an email inquiring on reservations for that week in august……will let you know what i hear back

    it is a beautiful campground…. here are some pictures i took of it while there

    h t t p : / / s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/djohnson63/colorado%20springs/

    this is of the garden of the gods…..its with in 20 mins or less

    h t t p : / / s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/djohnson63/garden%20of%20the%20gods/

    as is Pikes Peak
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  267. I am reading the comments at TM and they are saying that national NARAL did not consult with their state affiliates and didn’t even notify them about the endorsement. And that the affiliates are angry about it.

  268. EMILY’s List president Ellen R. Malcolm says in a press release:

    “I think it is tremendously disrespectful to Sen. Clinton – who held up the nomination of a FDA commissioner in order to force approval of Plan B and who spoke so eloquently during the Supreme Court nomination about the importance of protecting Roe vs. Wade – to not give her the courtesy to finish the final three weeks of the primary process. It certainly must be disconcerting for elected leaders who stand up for reproductive rights and expect the choice community will stand with them.”

  269. Wait. Was the huge Novak dirt thing on BHO coming out today just a rumor? Or is that still happening?

  270. I really don’t think the NARAL endorsement is a big deal — like RJK said, organizational endorsements aren’t important at this point.

    However, I really am bewildered as to why they would endorse BO over Hillary. Hillary, the woman who has championed the women’s right to choose for decades.

    This whole Primary doesn’t make sense to me. What is it about Obama that they see? I’m not getting it.

  271. Rush broke it first shannity glennbeck have been on radio all day hammering bo lol….go to hannitys radio show rev..manning is on

  272. Coming at the end of the primaries and right after a blowout victory by Hillary, it seems pretty obvious that this is an insider endorsement, having to do with money and playing the lobbying game in DC.

  273. I was just over at oped news, I read about a huge SD that went to OBAMA, I think its a lie, but I will not say who it was on the big pink. Chris Rice is saying who it is! Go to OpEd news and it talks about a superdelegate that endorsed today! Its quiet shocking, but I think it is a lie!

  274. I will compile a list of members here that would like to make plans to go out to denver in august
    and with that list hopefully we can connect up and ride share and room/tent share even

    so if you would like to let me know you can send an email to me at luvcowboys63 at yahoo dot com

    it’s basically my spam email folder LOL!! but if you put hillaryis44 in the subject line i will notice it much easier 😀

    note: i don’t check it but once a day so be patient i will get back to you 😀

  275. BO saves up endorsements like this for when the headlines turn against him. He probably bought off NARAL weeks ago in anticipation of losing WV.

    Still, the time for a NARAL endorsement to count is LONG gone. Most NARAL supporters have decided and Im guessing they are for Hillary. Actions speak louder than words.

    At this point, the swing voters are the hard working, blue collar, mostly white (sorry its not a dirty word), middle class voters.- like the people he wouldn’t talk to in Michigan when “sweetie” asked hima question. A NARAL endorsement might actually backfire on him at this point and is more ammunition for the repubs.

  276. A powerful tool (and maybe the only one that would work) to sway the SDs at this point would be if some reputable national poll group would go back to the states who voted prior to the Wright, bitter gun/religion, terrorist connection information came out and ask just two questions:

    “Knowing what you know now about Democratic Candidate Barack Obama, would you still cast your vote for him in the G.E.? Would you have cast your vote for him in your state primary?”

  277. Senator Robert C. Byrd
    300 Virginia Street East
    Suite 2630
    Charleston, WV 25301
    304-342-5855

    call en mass to Senator Byrd. Tell him that WVA spoke OVERWHELMINGLY in who they want their nominee to be to represent them. Be polite and ask for his support

  278. I don’t think the Manning comment is going to hurt Obama. I think it is going to be a call in arms to his supporters to defend him left and right and denounce Wright. All this does is take the media in the wrong direction (and they don’t need that excuse) instead of focusing on Obama’s weaknesses. It takes Hillary’s win yesterday out of the loop.

    I hope I am wrong. 😉

  279. you guys
    cnn has a blog on hillary

    pls blog and leave comments
    it says ,,hillary chocked up while talking about chelsea ,,,,,,

    but obamabots r being mean in comments
    so pls leave comments

  280. hallow, I wish you wouldn’t post such silly things. It really doesn’t do us any good.

  281. sonia, the bots are mean thru and thru and thats why I am not voting for him if he is the democrat!

  282. This is what I meant earlier. Novak puts out some story that Hillary has dirt on Obama. Then Rush floats junk, and they hope Hillary gets blamed.

    It’s all meant to distract.

  283. filbertsf – 🙁

    I saw it on hillaryclintonforum.net , and it got a lot of replies there. I thought it was the big thing…they were talking about it on Rush Limbaugh.

    I’m sorry. I wasn’t trying to be “silly”. 🙁

  284. Robert c byrd is in washington he is not available but the number is 202-224-3954 just leave a message and tell the phone person why he should support clinton!

  285. I don’t understand why Carville is saying this kind of stuff. The last thing we need is for Hillary’s closest supporters to be making unsupportive comments. Maybe we should all email Carville and let him know that he needs to say something nice or not say anything at all.

  286. No, I wish there was a private way, cause its apparently in Chris Rice’s diary. I think it a bot lie. Its someone very very very close to Hillary!

  287. I don’t want to make a big deal about it cause it has to be a bot lie. Go to opednews and you’ll find it!

  288. The last time Pastor Manning talked about Obama, he said that Obama’s mother and father were never legally married, and then that turned out to be true. BHO really is a “bastard”.

  289. There are not that many left “close” to Hillary..Carville, Begalia, Wesley Clark, Bayh, Tubbs, Jackson and a few others…

  290. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Carville is 100% a Clinton devotee. That being said, he is also a democrat. He is not saying anything that Hillary hasn’t already said. Both have stated on more that one occasion that they will support whoever becomes the democratic candidate. Fingers crossed that it is Hillary.

  291. jbstonesfan – And 272 or so superdelegates. And all of us. Stop being such a negative nancy. 😉

  292. His email is james@carville.info — Here’s what I sent:

    Mr. Carville,

    I understand that this race has been going on for a long time, and we appreciate your support of Hillary. The media, however, has been playing up your remarks suggesting that Obama is probably going to win and that you have a check waiting for him. While Sen. Obama may win in the end, it is extremely counterproductive for you to suggest so right now. We need to rally around Hillary in this her time of need. Please remember that the media will cherrypick what you say to fit their agenda. We do not need another Judas in one of her closest supporters. Please be supportive of Hillary and keep all other comments to YOURSELF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

  293. Sean Hannity is going to be talking about Pastor Manning on his story too. They obviously think the story could have legs.

  294. hallow Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    hey r u ok??

    u seem mad today.??

    u never talk like that . nobody is going to listen to manning , he is been saying these things for forever . in one of his videos he said what i would bever say ,,he was saying obama,s mom is white ,,and he used the word that randi rhodes used ,,,,,

    so ignore manning . he is nobody,s best friend ,he is like rush lim,,,

  295. i would wish ,manning had some proof ,,,i would love it more than anybody

    but manning has insulted white women too ,,so i don,t know

  296. Connie, I went over there to find that tease you dumped on us and I didn’t find it, now you mustn’t do this to us — it’s very naughty! Give a hint at least — in fact, even if you suspect it is a joke, a lie, whatever, you’ re on record saying so and we can all toss it off –pulleez!

  297. filbertsf – You have no right to tell me to shut up.

    I am a proud Hillary supporter like you are. You have no power over me, and you DO NOT tell me when to shut up.

    Christ, I’m leaving here. I’ll be back tomorrow. I don’t have to take this crap from you or anybody else.

  298. Lil Ole Grape

    there is no HUGE SD story………that article over on op-ednews was SNARK!!!

    and so glad it wasn’t said out loud here.

  299. sonia, what i have found out is that no one believes a thing on the candidate they support. I found out last night my co-worker is for the “the one”. He believes the stupid hope and change speech, he’s too ignorant to realized every candidate since george washington has used the hope and change speech. What an idiot! I guess some people in those last remaining states have not made up their mind and how thats possible I freaking don’t know!

  300. You know, are they trying to push all Hillary supporters to McCain? It sure seems that way. This is unbelievable. So many people have stabbed Hillary in the back. Karma is a bitch.

  301. lil ole grape, that’s what the diary of chris rice says! It said he had been mulling over it for months!

  302. con, you do realize how silly that sounds, don’t you? who is this chris rice and why should anyone believe what he says?

    I can’t believe we’re dignifying that story by actually discussing it.

  303. So somebody named Chis Rice is a freaking looney splashing slop around. Well, thanks for the tip — any sight of that name is ticket to looneyville.

  304. IT’S SNARK!!!

    I have hard time sometimes recognizing snark, but believe me it’s snark……if it wasn’t it would be all over the MSM non stop

  305. confloyd Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    sonia,

    thats true …

    but we here r not like that ,,,but may be ,we get emotional sometimes

  306. JanH Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
    Sonia,

    hey i just found it today through tm

    sorry for duplicacy

  307. That BC story has to be a joke, lol.

    BTW, we shouldn’t be surprised if Edwards endorses Waffes. He wants a job in the next president’s administration, and he assumes Obama is getting the nomination.

  308. Yes, I told you guys the BOTs are dellusional and are liars to boot. That’s the kind of crap that gets circulated and some poor unsuspecting sole will believe it.

  309. paster manning on hannity right now…..says he has proof!!

    solid rock proof

    won’t demonstrate it today…….but brings up that he was right about BO mother and father when everyone said he was
    outrageous & lying.

    says oprah is nothing but a closeted black nationalist!

    says to hannity that he has 1 million percent proof! isn’t worried about being sued
    said he will come out with that proof at the right opportunity.

  310. The great irony, confloyd, is that had you not posted it here, none of us would have known about it. Would you say you’re a purveyor of that rumor you are now dismissing?

  311. Why has no one questioned Kennedy for his insulting remarks? Hillary graciously greeted him in the senate after he endorsed Obama..why is he allowed to say these things without recourse???

  312. djia Says:

    well i hope so

    but whats the right opportunity when obama offers 1 million dollars to his church and then he be gone to africa forever

    what the hell is he waiting for

  313. birdgal, and even though everyone stabs her in the back, she is still loyal to the party. On CNN she said to vote Obama over McCain because McCain would be worse. It’s just amazing that after the endless parade of Judas after Judas she still is loyal to the party. I don’t know how she gets up every day and carries on the way she does. She’s so brave.

  314. he might sound nuts……but think about things…..

    first the gay choir director is murdered
    second: larry sinclair comes out with gay sex and drug story
    third : pastor manning is saying that BO and Rev Wright are closet homosexuals

    hmmmm looks to be a pattern to me!!

    and we all know that BO is a liar!

  315. texan4hillary Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    edwards to back obama at 6pm in mi says marc ambinder

    WTF??

  316. Rev Manning was on Hannity’s talk show. Claims that he has proof and come out with it at later time. i think he is a real distraction. He is weird.

  317. Shame on Edwards. He waited this long, why couldn’t he wait until the convention?

    Oh I get it, I bet this was one of O’s endorsements that he held on to for the right moment, i.e. Hillary gets a huge win and he starts piling on her again so he gets the positive news cycle. What a disappointment he has become.

  318. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/clinton_the_real_thing_gov_say.html

    Rendell says Obama shouldn’t settle for a Clinton supporter.

    “If Sen. Obama becomes our nominee and he wants . . . someone to carry the Clinton banner,” Rendell tells CNN, “there’s no question in my mind they should ask Hillary Clinton to be that candidate.”

    Would she accept? The Pennsylvania governor, one of the Clinton family’s closest advisers, says he’s not sure.

    “I don’t know whether she would accept,” Rendell said. “I don’t know whether he would do it. But don’t settle for . . . a Clinton supporter. You’ve got the real thing, someone who has energized voters.”

  319. Hillary worked much harder to get Edwards’ endorsement than Waffles did, but what else is new? Edwards’ endorsement won’t suddenly make Waffles more appealing to blue-collar voters.

    BTW, I guess Edwards isn’t as interested in universal health care as he claimed to be.

  320. I need a drink and it’s only 1:30PM

    A good night for Hillary is always followed by some bad news the next day. It’s become a pattern.

  321. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/give_clinton_respect_emily_say.html

    Now fires back Ellen R. Malcom, president of EMILY’s List, which tries to elect pro-choice Democratic women to office.

    “I think it is tremendously disrespectful to Sen. Clinton . . . to not give her the courtesy to finish the final three weeks of the primary process,” Malcom says. “It certainly must be disconcerting for elected leaders who stand up for reproductive rights and expect the choice community will stand with them.”

  322. tabbylady Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
    birdgal, and even though everyone stabs her in the back, she is still loyal to the party. On CNN she said to vote Obama over McCain because McCain would be worse. It’s just amazing that after the endless parade of Judas after Judas she still is loyal to the party. I don’t know how she gets up every day and carries on the way she does. She’s so brave.

    That is one of the many reasons that I admire and respect her so much; she has courage.

  323. I would bet that Eliz Edwards will be the next to endorse and she will come out for hillary

    and we all know that Elizabeth is a much bigger endorsement than John….hate to say it but she is !!

    everyone loves elizabeth! and she sides with hillary!! 😀

  324. obama holds big news ,,,waits when he is loosing , he flashes his good news

    first he criticizes clintons and admires reagan ,,

    but needed, he will say ,,oh i will do like bill clinton did ,,i have the kind of support that bill did…

    oh bill released the weatherman , so if he is my friend ,,its not my fault ,,,

    oh bill invited wright to tea for 1 hr but its not my fault that i was with him for 20 yrs

  325. Knowing what I know about NC and its people, I finally realize why I hate John Edwards.

    Hillary survived all of the Kennedys, Richardson, Dodds… she’ll survive Edwards. It’ll be cool if Elizabeth endorsed her. But that’s not going to happen. She and John are a team.

  326. djia Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
    sorry to break ur heart

    but money buys everything

    and political benefits and political future is what obama is threatening everyone with along with checks in his hands

  327. Listen the more this happens, obama getting supers after huge wins for clinton will only piss more people off and make damn sure not to vote for him if he wins! This looks nasty when someone comes out after a victory for Clinton just plain out nasty. IM DOING BOLD BECAUSE I NEED EVERYONE TO SEE THIS PLEASE MAKE SURE TO WRITE TO CARVILLE! james@carville.info for his way of turning his back on hillary!

  328. I don’t know what I’m going to do if Obama wins this nomination. 🙁 Hillary says on Drudge that she “is going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me understands what a grave error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama.” Honestly I think it’s going to be a disaster either way. I don’t know if she is saying this for party loyalty or what. I may just write her name in.

  329. winhillary: These people are not endorsing Obama after his spectacular losses. Obama keeps these endorsements in a dark cupboard waiting his next humiliating defeat. Then he brings them out the next day to keep the inevitability narrative alive and well. It’s tedious, and it’s transparent, but the media falls for it week after week. Why? Because it’s a fairy tale they can believe in.

  330. Obama, Clinton agree to DNC fundraising agreement
    Posted: 03:30 PM ET

    From CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

    Howard Dean is the chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Democratic Party has reached an unusual joint fundraising agreement with both its remaining presidential candidates, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    The agreement, announced Wednesday, creates a new entity, the “Democratic White House Victory Fund” — a move which will allow both candidates to fundraise for the cash-strapped Democratic National Committee, and to help shoulder some of their primary and general election expenses. John McCain has already created his own Victory Fund with the Republican National Committee – but those funds are usually created after a nominee has been decided.

    Obama and the DNC had come to an agreement several weeks ago.

    “In signing this agreement, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are demonstrating their commitment to unifying our party and ensuring that we have the resources needed to win the White House, no matter who the nominee is,” said DNC Chairman Howard Dean in a statement. The message is clear. Democrats are unified to put a Democrat back in the White House so we can get our economy back on track, bring our troops home and finally do something about our ailing health care system.”

    Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton

    U KNOW WHAT ,,,I DON,T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ..this woman is the greatest of all , why she is so nice why she did not slap dean,s face

  331. edwards endorsement means nothing but another sd count. he packs no power and it’s obvious he is angling for something for himself.

    I am hearing a huge groundswell of anger from core Democrats. Everyone I talk with is talking about how the “elite” of the party is turning on Hillary and Bill. There anger is real and I hear enough talk of abandonment of the party and a protest vote in November. They can weather through worse storms than what has been the last 8 years. And they are very afraid of what the party plans with an obama presidency. This is real and I don’t care how many new voters he brings in .. they will feel the backlash come november if they continue on this path.

  332. winhillary Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
    Listen the more this happens, obama getting supers after huge wins for clinton will only piss more people off and make damn sure not to vote for him if he wins! This looks nasty when someone comes out

    He probably had them already lined up. When he loses he use these endorsement, They come out to make him look good, They are all paid.

    Can’t stand him. I keep telling you guys this man is the anti christ. What is the saying they will sell their souls for a piece of silver?

  333. Edwards is a player and he played both sides of the street. I hope people will realize he is an empty suit just like OBAma!
    Got to go to work, sorry Filbertsf, i shoulda thought before i typed, I do try to be careful with what I say.

  334. I want to weigh in on some of what is happening and scheduled to happen, it seems, today and going forward:

    1. Edwards:

    I like Edwards, but he is being opportunistic. I understand it, and he has to do what is right for himself. I don’t like what he’s doing but I’m not going to get too bent out of shape about it either. They guy can’t even deliver his own state, he’s not going to save O’Humpty with white voters.

    2. Fundraising combo-thing with HRC/BHO/DNC — Still need to hear the particulars. Sounds like a shrewd decision by HRC to both get some of her debt taken care of as well as look like a ‘team player.’ I’m not thrilled about it, but it is not necessarily the worst overall move for HRC, either. Still need to know the details.

    3. Overall battle plans

    There are two things which concern me as a Dem, and they both dovetail together.

    A. Help HRC get elected

    B. Stop BHO from being elected

    What this means, in practical purposes, is that when and if the time comes to shift from a nomination to a general election strategy which does not directly involve HRC, I will be prepared to do that. Thus would begin the ‘extended primary’ strategy which not only would go through November but also until the next election cycle.

    The key here is to understand what we are fighting for and against. We are not fighting against Democrats being elected, we are fighting for the fabric of our party. Should Obama and his acolytes be rewarded for a campaign of outright race-baiting elitism, the consequences for the long-term viability of our party would be disastrous. To paraphrase Lincoln, you cannot race-bait all the people all the time, particularly when you are attempting to make approximately 89% of the electorate buy into what is a fatally-flawed concept.

    Every campaign has its vicissitudes. This contest is no different. We have to be able to accept and roll with the perceived setbacks just as we cheered like crazy last night as Obama suffered his worst outing of the contest.

    The bottom line is to make sure this man loses in November, if it comes to that. That is my bottom line, anyways. And it will remain so until the election is completed, either the primary or the general.

    So even though the Elitist Triad of Obamas/Effete Dem Leadership/MSM is throwing bombs our way like they are all Billy Ayers, the most useful mindset to take is that of the long-range. This is something which many of our Asian brothers and sisters often seem better able to conceive than are many Americans raised on the “American Idol”/instant gratification culture.

    In summary: Stay strong, stay focused and don’t allow your opponent to dictate the terms. Read some Sun-Tzu, Confucius or other thinkers of this vein if you feel the need.

    We still have a long road ahead of us. Nothing has changed in that regard. Think strategically and act consistently and we can still end up where we — and the country and the party — need to be.

    *thumbs up*

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  335. The DNC has turned their backs on the core democrats, and that will be a mistake they will pay for in November. Iam voting for McCain not becuse I like him, it’s because I dislike Obama more.

  336. If it is Edwards, I wonder why the Obama campaign hasn’t leaked it all over creation. You’d think they’d be shouting it from the rooftops.

  337. Jas: Yes.

    The party is leaving the majority of its members, as the voting among registered Dems during this contest shows.

    There is no way around that conclusion. This is a controlled coup against both the Clintons and the majority of the party in order to serve the interests of a cadre of jealous presidential-wannabe elites and a decided minority of both our party and the national electorate, AA’s.

    As I have said in various forums throughout the contest, not only am I not racist but the two most important father figures in my life were both AA men. I have no problem with either African-Americans or African-American leadership. MLK is one of my heroes.

    This is not about race, it is about cynical race-baiting and the elevation of an empty vessel and his ingrate of a wife in the service of both the jealous, Clinton-hating Dem elite and the assembly of corporate and multi-national interests who view Obama as a puppetmaster looks upon his version of Pinocchio. This is not about BHO any more than his not being a worthy representative of the party. It is, in truth, about those malicious interests who are the wolves in the Obama clothing. They are the danger here, for both the party and the country.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  338. Universal Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    This is a controlled coup against both the Clintons and the majority of the party in order to serve the interests of a cadre of jealous presidential-wannabe elites and a decided minority of both our party and the national electorate, AA’s.

    ————————————————
    So true but so very sad. What has the Democratic Party come to?

  339. Saw this from one of the bloggers on Hillary’s site

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    Dems raise money together 59 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton can agree on one thing — they want their party to have more money, no matter who is the nominee.

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    The Democratic National Committee announced Wednesday that it had signed agreements with both campaigns to begin raising money together.

    As part of the agreement, donors can contribute up to $33,100 to the newly created Democratic White House Victory Fund. Most of the money will benefit whichever candidate becomes the nominee.

    Officials at the DNC said Chairman Howard Dean has been working with both campaigns on the idea since February.

    At the end of March, the DNC had $5.3 million in the bank, compared to $31 million for the Republican National Committee.

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    I hope my money i donated to Hillary is not going to the DNC If so i am done donating

  340. there is a pattern that everytime BHO loses big, he will get the so called big endorsement to get positive news coverage.
    he could not win by working hard but by affirmation.

  341. Four former Kentucky governors endorse Hillary…

    hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=7701

  342. according to Robert Novak:

    “Nevertheless, Clinton loyalists insist that the race may not be over. They say Sen. Clinton is a very “tight” woman with a buck and that she would not be putting up $11 million of her own money if she did not have some plan to win the nomination.”

    I think there must be some other bombshell on Obama that Hillary knows about, which is why she is holding out because Obama would be doom for the party.

  343. Hillary would not still be in this if she didnt think she was going to win it.

    She is just waiting for the perfect timing, I’m sure of it, she has something.

  344. The thing is Edwards endorsement now means nothing, nada, might have been a month ago and he isnt an SD, so there.

  345. John edwards endorsement announcement was just on fox news, its to happen tonight in grand rapids MI in the next hour or so

  346. ——————————————————————————–

    From ABC News:

    ABC News’ Kate Snow, Raelyn Johnson and Rick Klein Report: Former Sen. John Edwards is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential candidacy Wednesday evening, in a dramatic attempt by the Obama campaign to answer concerns regarding Obama’s appeal to working-class voters, several senior Democratic sources tell ABC News.

    Edwards, who ran for president on a platform of eradicating poverty, plans to appear alongside Obama in Grand Rapids, Mich., Wednesday evening. The event comes one day after Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton defeated Obama by 41 points in the West Virginia primary, and Edwards’ endorsement will give Obama a key establishment stamp of approval as he attempts to close out the nominating process.

    Edwards and his wife, Elizabeth, have remained studiously neutral since the Edwards campaign came to a close Jan. 30. Edwards on Sunday called Obama “the likely nominee,” but made clear that his statement reflected a judgment about the state of the race, not necessarily a personal preference.

    The possibility of an Edwards endorsement has been the subject of intense speculation for months; only former vice president Al Gore’s endorsement was more coveted by Obama and Clinton. Edwards and his wife had publicly praised Clinton’s healthcare plan, but Edwards’ anti-corporate message seemed a better fit for Obama’s outsider campaign.

    A source close to the Clinton campaign said the Edwards camp gave the Clinton folks a head’s up.

    “Clearly it’s upsetting” the source tells ABC. “He brings the workers” to Obama.

  347. I’ve always liked and admired Sen Edwards and his wife. I didn’t support him this go round because I felt he was too far left on some issues for my taste. JE said some very harsh things about Hill and the big dawg during the campaign but clearly HRC still valued his endorsement. I don’t think the man deserves to be trashed because he didn’t go with our choice.

  348. that means nothing now, too much has happened in the Bo camp that voters are turned off and all the endorsements in the world isn’t going to change those minds that are now in hillary camp

  349. What happened to him caring about lower middle class workers? The core democrats supported Hillary! I’m so sick of this election! How do we stop this from happening!

  350. Jan H:

    We are an embarrassment as a party currently. This is why so many are preparing to either fight like crazy to defeat BHO in the general in order to wrest back control of the party from the Neo-Jacobin, anti-Clintonite, this-is-the-last-time-for-AA’s-to-try-to-grab-power-beforefore their-numbers-are-overtaken-by-Latinos reactionaries or else to leave the party. Perhaps both, depending on how things shake out.

    I am a lifelong Dem who is halfway out the door after this process. The only chance BHO has if he is nominated is if McCain unilaterally disarms himself and a huge faction of the GOP either stays home or refused to vote for McCain. As of today, I would put Obama’s chances in the general at around 25% or so. There are too many pissed-off, ‘bitter’ working class whites and disaffected Clinton voters for him to win; he is, quite simply, not viable. People have compared him to Dukakis but he doesn’t have anywhere near the backing of a Dukakis, who won around 44% or so (could be slightly less) of the popular vote. Obama cannot draw that figure, and as Sammy “Obsessed” Powers would be happy to tell anyone who would listen, no amount of $$$ or campaigning time is going to budge these voters to BHO. He knew that by WV, and that is why he flat-out quit on the state like the loser he is.

    The honeymoon is over, has been over. What the Dem Party — the realists in the party, that is — is waking up to is that they went to Vegas and got a shotgun wedding with a fraud who is talking about Afghanis speaking Arabic and channeling Tweety Matthews in disrespecting female reporters.

    We — our party — is a joke. And the only way the Obama backers will be laughing last come November is if the GOP is able to make itself an even bigger joke by that time.

    Don’t count on it. GOP voters are far, far more disciplined than are Dems. When faced with a choice between Bambi and Mac, most Repub voters won’t have any problem pulling the lever for the war hero.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  351. if they think Edwards is going to bring the workers to Obama .. livin in a dream world. He couldn’t even pack him home state!

    Voters will see this as more pandering and more backstabbing.

    look for Hill to rack up in the states on out .. I see a voter revolt.

  352. yeo no big deal hell never get us voters to him never after all this nastiness crap thrown at hillary
    he will loos the GE..Michigan voted for hill there not going to change there minds..they’ll go mccain before ever bo …they are the worst in the country for jobs and very poor state there.

  353. Sorry nikki22 but Edwards trumpeted Universal healthcare, he trumpeted anti lobbyists, 2 things Obama is totally bullshitting us all on, so what gives, he’s been bought, another 30 pieces of silver.

    He’s an opportunist, screw him just like Richardson.

  354. Universal,

    I have to tell you that your posts are amazing. As a Canadian, all of you are in my prayers. This all seems so surreal…hard to believe anything this corrupt could actually be taking place.

  355. jan

    Hume didn’t know why… but just doesn’t think its of any importance this late in the game

  356. yep he lost he wanted back in the news
    true dot …the voters will forward to hillary again..
    for the wins..the more bad crap comes out ..voters vote and its Hillary.

  357. Edwards trumpeted the low paid poor blue class workers and who does he go with, the elitist, liberal, wealthy voter candidate. He just lost any respect he ever had.

    I bet he’s been offered a job, either VP or cabinet.

  358. well…….I didn’t want to think of edwards as a judas or a opportunist…..but…….. I can no longer think any differently

    how sad……

  359. moononpluto Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
    Edwards trumpeted the low paid poor blue class workers and who does he go with, the elitist, liberal, wealthy voter candidate. He just lost any respect he ever had.

    I bet he’s been offered a job, either VP or cabinet

    Seems hypocritical, doesn’t it? I’m sure, Hillary offered him something.

    I do agree, JE is an opportunist. His actions speak volumes.

  360. djia,

    Thanks. Have to agree. Maybe Edwards is just wanting back in the spotlight again…his 30 seconds of fame. I wonder how many pieces of silver/what promises (maybe v.p.?) did he receive for his betrayal of Hillary?

  361. NARAL’s dissing of Hillary is going to cost them:

    a) a ton of money
    b) lots of long time supporters

    They are like those phony people in high school cliques. “The Hillary people aren’t cool. The Obamabots have bigger donations”.

    Never mind that Hill’s supporters are older women (and men like myself) who have been through the many battles with them. Their disdainful treatment of the first serious female presidential candidate is shocking.

    I would expect that they would support either Democratic candidate once the dust settled. Hillary’s record on Reproductive rights is not only letter for letter the same as Obama’s, but she has a much longer history of actually working on these causes, inside the US and around the world!!!

    Here is their press release (“for me to poop on”), followed by my witty / snotty remarks.

    http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/election-pr/pr_05042008_obamaendorsement.html

    &&&&&&
    NARAL PRO-CHOICE AMERICA ENDORSES SEN. BARACK OBAMA

    Washington, DC – Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, released the following statement today, announcing that her organization’s political action committee proudly endorses Sen. Barack Obama for president.

    “Today, NARAL Pro-Choice America PAC is proud to endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president. Sen. Obama has been a strong advocate for a woman’s right to choose throughout his career in public office. He steadfastly supports and defends a woman’s right to make the most personal, private decisions regarding her reproductive health without interference from government or politicians.

    “Sen. Obama has been a leader on this issue in the United States Senate. Since joining the Senate in 2005, he has worked to unite Americans on both side of this debate behind commonsense, common-ground ways to prevent unintended pregnancy. Sen. Obama supports legislation to provide our teens with comprehensive sex education, prevent pharmacies from denying women access to their legal birth-control prescriptions, and increase access to family-planning services.

    “We are confident that Barack Obama is the candidate of the future. Americans are tired of the divisive politics of the last eight years, and will unite behind Obama in the fall. We look forward to working with a pro-choice Obama White House in January.”

    Keenan also praised Senator Clinton as a pro-choice leader. “Americans have been fortunate to have two fully pro-choice candidates in the race for the Democratic nomination. But only one can go forward to the general election. It is truly historic for us to have these two outstanding candidates in the race.”
    &&&&&&&& END of their crap &&&&&&&&

    So …. “Barack Obama is the candidate of the future.”….and Hillary is used lunch meat? What kind of reaction do they think they are going to get when tthey mail out their requests for donations, and 60% come back with Monopoly money and hate mail?? “Gee, we didn’t see that coming”.

    And this gem: “Americans are tired of the divisive politics of the last eight years, and will unite behind Obama in the fall” ………Ummm, excuse me, for the past eight years, the divisive politics have come from Bush / Rove. Clinton was their ally in the Senate. Obama was not even in the Senate. If they want to BLAME THE VICTIMS (blaming the Clintons for the “divisiveness in DC”), as Obama has been trying to do, they’d have to go back further, 16 years. Can’t these idiots even count?

  362. What’s up with the new HRC/DNC campaign funding pact? Waffles signed it about a month ago. HRC signed it today.

    What does that imply?

    If any money I send her campaign ends up in the DNC coffers by default I will puke. I can’t beleive HRC would sign the pact unless something was up.

    Anyone have any ideas?
    👿

  363. I hope you are listening working class voters, your former champion of poor workers and universal healthcare and poverty just endorsed the Senator who’s base is wealthy business class liberal activist voters who dont give a shit about you.

    Guess he didnt give a shit about you after all.

  364. he looks so phony in michigan like he knows what the hell is going on with vehicles at the crylser plant
    he is so full of shi+ walking around like some expert stupid a@@…
    well the voters in the rest of the states follow west va scroo the media

  365. Hi, Hillfriends. Last night’s euphoria has given way to a fresh realization of the work ahead. Thanks everyone for being here for each other.

    I wrote to James Carville – gently but firmly. And, I visited the NARAL site to register my astonishment and disgust. Here is a sample of just the first of over 1100 responses on their site. This is very sad.
    * * * * * * * *
    1025 Comments (naral site)

    By N Miller on May 14, 2008 1:49 PM
    I have never been so disgusted. How dare you claim to represent pro-choice women and then turn your back on one of the most influential women’s right advocates in recent history? I am a lifelong activist and I will never, never forgive you for this.

    Hillary has been a champion for women’s rights. Remember ICPD? Remember VAWA? What has Obama done that can hold a candle to her record? Nothing. He has not one comparable achievement.

    History will not treat you kindly. You’ll be remembered as part of the howling mob who tried to tear apart the woman who dared reach for the highest office in the land.

    And for what? You know Obama is wishy-washy on choice. He never mentions women’s issues. He clearly will not be a leader for us.

    Shame on you. Shame shame shame.

  366. Obama unifying / transcending political gifts have brought:

    1. Deep divisioin within the Democratic party, in a year where we should easily be winning.
    2. Splintering blacks and whites across the countries.
    3. Splintering rural vs city people
    4. Now NARAL is eating their own?

    It’s one thing that a black candidate or a female candidate could stir up racism or sexism, just by breathing. But Obama has used reverse racism, and is actually fanning the flames.

  367. In 2004, GOP worked hard to paint John Kerry to Flip-Flop. Now it looks like they are going to work hard to paint him as out of touch of mainstream and not ready to be CIC.

  368. Watch Kentucky everyone you thought she was leading now watch this wave! I put money on there is some pissed of people right now! The ones that supported Edwards last night are getting sick right now! That bastard! Working class my ass, just another suit that wants media attention! I will laugh while kentucky rolls his ass over! What is he thinking suporting a man that just lost everything that Edwards supported! Wait everyone, I can’t imagine what WV is thinking right now! Or have of Michigan that knows Obama stopped a recount! This makes me soooooo sick!

  369. this is obama’s attempt and saving his ass in KY….he knows if hillary blows him out there like in WV he’s a cooked RAT

  370. “Uniter not a divider” – where have we heard this before?

    Here are a few more samples from the NARAL site, “Blog for Choice” (what a joke!). Go there to register your disgust when you get the chance:
    http://www.blogforchoice.com/archives/2008/05/naral-prochoice-6.html

    * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    By Shameful on May 14, 2008 2:16 PM
    I am insulted, as all pro-choice Democratic women should be, that Naral would endorse Senator Obama.

    Hillary Clinton has been standing for women’s rights for over 30 years while Obama has voted “present” a record 7 times for pro-choice votes in the Illinois State Senate.

    There are no words to explain how disappointed and angry I am at your organization.
    * * * * * * * * *
    By Sherry Bellamy on May 14, 2008 2:18 PM
    Shame on NARAL. Hillary Clinton has an unequivocal, strong and unquestioned position on choice. Obama has been trying to be “in the middle” on this issue as on every other issue. For you to turn your back on the most viable woman candidate before the primary season is over is an outrage. You are joining too many men in the Democratic party who would rather lose an election than nominate a woman.
    * * * * * * * * * *
    By Mary Jane Casper on May 14, 2008 2:22 PM
    I am disappointed that NARAL, whom I have supported for years, is endorsing Obama prematurely. You are dividing your critical supporters by taking this stand. We are all needed in California to fight more propositions aimed at limiting a young woman’s access to abortion and we will have a huge fight against McCain. Hillary has been a champion for women’s reproductive rights all her life and the primary election is NOT OVER! The need to do this endorsement now escapes me. This is a sexist position to deny Hillary the right, as we have afforded male candidates in the past, to run to the finish line in a primary. NARAL has been getting the word out on McCain and there is time to really reveal his stand on the issues. This urgency is a false argument. Who managed to push your organization to this untimely act?
    You have bought into the media hype that the race is over and are denying Hillary the right to finish this process for all the voters who support her.

    A dual endorsement earlier would have been a great way to point out the differences….what were you thinking at this point? Please reconsider your position and make a statement about both candidates’ support of choice and reproductive freedom. It takes a big organization to admit a mistake.

    Mary Jane Casper
    California

  371. The more the elitist $400 haircut crowd backs Obama, the more the “commoners” band together. Let me count the ways…

    Kerry (loser), Kennedy (loser), other Kennedy (RI), “1% Richardson” (loser), “1% Dodd”, “5% Edwards”, George Frikkin McGovern…

    All the stiffs wandered out of the asylum. “Hey Dems, it’s this way off the edge of the cliff. If you get lucky, you can hit your head on a rock and it will be over quicker”.

    Thanks for the advice, ahem, “Gentlemen”. But we won’t heed your steeeking advice.

  372. I’ve had it.

    Hillary and Bill Clinton have showed incredible loyalty to this party and what did it get them, spat on, shit on and rudely put down.

    Hillary and Bill Clinton owes them no loyalty now, they don’t deserve it, if they proceed to push her out, I hope they decide enough is enough and take all those bastards down before they take America down.

    The Democratic hierarchy showed no loyalty,only treachery and they deserve it back in abundance, thats how strongly i feel now.

  373. Yeah, I don’t think anyone really cares that Edwards endorsed Obama. All I heard was crickets when I read the headline.

  374. From Taylor Marsh’s web site, this explanation about the NARAL local affiliate vs national:

    UPDATE: From the comments:

    I just got off the phone with NARAL NY. They said that it was the National NARAL office that endorsed Oblique without consulting with ANY of their affiliates. Here is a statement they issued this morning:

    May 14, 2008 Today, NARAL Pro-Choice America endorsed Senator Barack Obama for President. This decision was made internally by NARAL Pro-Choice America, based in Washington D.C., and without the consultation of the NARAL state affiliates across the country. NARAL Pro-Choice New York will not be issuing an endorsement at this time. NARAL Pro-Choice New York believes that this endorsement in the Democratic primary is premature. We are fortunate to have two pro-choice candidates in Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Senator Barack Obama. When a nominee is named, NARAL Pro-Choice New York will stand proudly with the pro-choice Democratic candidate in order to defeat anti-choice Republican candidate John McCain in November.

  375. Oh, no! Just read in article above:
    “Edwards’ anti-corporate message seemed a better fit for Obama’s outsider campaign.”
    What “outsider” campaign? What are these people smoking?

  376. earlier up thread i posted a article that questioned and posted poll results on democrats voting for hillary if she ran as a independant.

    no one here commented…..but i want to draw your attention to it once again as i am sitting here wondering IF
    it’s at all possible that the clinton camp or atleast someone close to them is checking things out to see what they’re chances would be if she ran as a indy?

    what do you think??

  377. Edwards endorsed Obama. What was he waiting for? For Clinton to have a landslide victory? Then he’d come in to try to save the day?

    Has any single person on any TV show ever said “Obama TOOK HIMSELF” off the ballot in MI” as opposed to “Obama wasn’t on the ballot in MI”. Obama made the decision and now they think he shouldn’t have to be responsible for it.

    And that nonsense is always followed by neither campaigned in FL as an excuse not to count it either.

  378. I would vote for her – but we’d have to see some numbers. Could she pull enough support from the GOP side? Lieberman was successful in a similar situation.

  379. Jan H

    Thank you. You are very kind. 🙂

    I have spent a tremendous amount of time on this contest, researching and writing about it. Unlike the Obamas, I value my education and the opportunities which others and my country gave me to pursue it. That two people with dual Ivy League degrees could be so petty and America-hating is almost beyond all reason, until you understand the Bill Ayers of the world.

    I know many such people, went to school with plenty of them. They don’t operate in the same planes of reality which most of us occupy. They are correctly referred to as elitist. They read and believe every single positive press clipping which involves them.

    BHO’s best capability is not his mind, it is his chameleon-like quality to adapt to various surroundings and bamboozle people into thinking he is one of them when the reality is that a throw-the-common-man-under-the-bus trip to SF is but a day away. He is a used car salesman, a carnival barker, an ebony Elmer Gantry. In short, he is a fraud.

    Michelle Obama is her husband without the impulse control and with even more searing anger only barely contained. If Michelle were a celestial body she would be a star which is constantly teetering on the brink of exploding into a supernova. You know it’s going to happen, you just don’t know when. And you don’t want to be anywhere close when the blast goes off.

    Michelle simply disgusts me as a person. She’s pulling down almost 400K a year and she has the gall to bitch about wanting Cousin Cheney to “give us something” while also telling people in destitute Zainesville, OH that they shouldn’t pursue money. She is an out and out embarrassment and a textbook case study of what is wrong in America today.

    Obama is a very seriously conflicted individual. He has massive identity issues and seems haunted by a number of elements of his past. That’s not really surprising given the chaotic background he came from, but it’s also not the profile I’m looking for in either the leader of my party or the leader of the free world. We already had a ‘recovering’ Prez, and his name was Dubya.

    As many conservatives have correctly noted, we Dems are in the midst of reaping what we have sown as regards out of control identity politics. Clyburn and Wilder, et al have made a mockery of MLK’s legacy, and that is wrong on so many levels.

    When the hysteria dies down in the time to come, this contest will be looked at as a blight on the Democratic Party’s record. The same goes for the media, including the Stalinistic ‘progressive’ sites. Not only did they do nothing while the party was undermined, they actively contributed to its debasement.

    Seriously, this thing has been sickening from the word “Go.” This is the sort of occurrence that shatters previous alliances and fundamentally reconfigures coalitions.

    Donna Brazile may very well get her new Deomcratic Party.

    Unfortunately for her, that party’s shelf life is likely to be about as short as Chris Matthews’ attention span.

    I’m going to run for now. Take care, all. And again, thanks Jan.

    🙂

    Paul F. Villarreal
    VillarrealSports.com

  380. Freckles, actually they say, “Obama wasn’t EVEN on the ballot in Michigan!” You’re right. Truth: “Obama took himself off the ballot for political reasons because he knew he couldn’t win and wanted to curry favor with Iowa voters.”

  381. # CJ Says:
    May 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    he looks so phony in michigan like he knows what the hell is going on with vehicles at the crylser plant
    he is so full of shi+ walking around like some expert stupid a@@…
    &&&&&&&

    Hopefully, he’ll create one of the precious Dukakis-wearing-a-helmet -in-a-tank moments, the kind of stuff 527 groups’ wet dreams are made of.

  382. Universal: thanks for your always insightful analysis. I, too, always look forward to your writing. Keep the faith!

  383. If Hillary was to possibly run as independent,

    I’d tell her to run on an strong economy platform, tell the people Bill Clinton would become the economic tzar to put America right.

  384. i wouldnt give them airtime hillary got the votes in michigan ..and michigan needs to kick there ass@@@ out of there..

  385. 44 Million Reasons to Endorse Obama:

    Gee, all these endorsements, always coming out when things look bad for BO. I think these sycophants are looking at his bankroll, like gold diggers at a fancy night club. “I’m going to stand next to the rich guy”.

  386. The Evelyn Pringle article Part II is now up on

    opednews.com

    Getting more interesting all the time

  387. This is my opinion, lets look at what has happened today:
    1. Endorsement from NARAL
    2. Endorsement of Edwards
    3. Hillary signed on to helping the DNC fund raising.
    So, the Naral endorsement is meant to divide Hillary’s electorate. The Edwards endorsement happened because Bambi can’t get the white male vote. Edwards they think can.
    I opinion is they have promised Edwards Veep to appeal to the working class white, and they are going to through us females off the bus. Hillary has probably turned down the offer of Veep (I am glad if she did) and they need Edwards to pull in the white male vote and his wife to pull in the womens vote. Nice and neat little package and they will payoff Hillary’s campaign debts.
    Let me know if any of you agree.

  388. Well, Confloyd, if that happens, I’m with McCain. This primary season has been a mockery of the democratic process. I don’t agree with McCain, but these events have completely turned me off to the democratic or undemocratic party.

    Universal, I have enjoyed your diaries, hard work, and wonderful insight into the political process. Thank you, for everything you do for Hillary.

  389. Of coarse I don’t think they even with Edwards and Elizabeth can beat Hillary. I think the voters in the remaining states will be pist at what has happened. We will see and we must stay strong for Hilllary. I believe she will come out of this OK and possible a run in 2012!

  390. HillBillyLover Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
    I’m convinced he is going to pick Edwards as VP to try to “fix his problem”

    Good f’in luck.

    Apparently I agree, LOL

  391. 558-2000 .. Joe Manchin, Governor Office … He promised to endorse whoever won WVA .. call him

    I can’t believe that there is no news on the WVA State Site that Hill won in a landslide with RECORD TURNOUT ..

    Manchin wouldn’t endorse due to his own campaign and if he turns .. there will be HELL to pay in WVA.

    People are mad already .. top news headline on the WVA state head is “edwards to endorse obama” .. can you believe this shite.

  392. and they think that Elizabeth Edwards can bring in female …

    not this one. JE and EE are now dead to me

  393. Birdgal and Hillbilly LOver, I am only voting for Hillary, anyone besides her will not work. I never like Edwards and if people are going to be fooled by him then so be it. I will be with McCain, I personally if what I have said on my above post happens, I hope McCain will offer Veep to Hillary or maybe cabinet position. I think its time for Hillary and Bill to start helping the Republicans beat this team of mobsters!

  394. Agreed, Confloyd. Personally I have never cared much for John Edwards. Too much blinking. Unless he has a health problem, it is an indication of insincerity.

  395. people all all out right disgusted at this process go to greta wire they are pissed people
    on the blogs

    John Edwards on CNN 48 hours ago

    I think we have two great candidates. I have such an extraordinarily high opinion of both of them. You watch sort of what’s happened in the past, I think that some of the endorsements as opposed to helping unite have contributed to the divide. And what I don’t want to do is contribute to the divide. I mean, we had a primary in North Carolina where I live. I live in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. I voted in that primary. So obviously, I made a choice in that vote. But at least for this moment, I think the reasonable thing for me to do is let voters make their decision.

    KING: Senator Edwards, would you run again for vice president if asked?

    EDWARDS: No. I don’t have any interest in it, no intention to do it. The cause of my life, Larry, is to do something about poverty in this country, and I’m going to pour my heart and soul into that. I knew you were going to ask me about this.

    “““““““““““`
    So he endorses somebody that just gave the corrupt UN nearly a trillion dollars of OUR taxes in a bill he’s put up?

  396. John Edwards to Endorse Obama in One Hour
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Wed May 14, 2008 at 04:35:56 PM EST
    Tags: John Edwards, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton 2008 (all tags) Share This:
    Via ABC News:

    ABC News’ Kate Snow, Raelyn Johnson and Rick Klein Report: Former Sen. John Edwards is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential candidate Wednesday evening, in a dramatic attempt by the Obama campaign to answer concerns regarding Obama’s appeal to working-class voters, several senior Democratic several senior Democratic sources tell ABC News.
    The Obama campaign confirms Edwards will endorse Obama at a campaign rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan Wednesday. The event was originally scheduled to start at 7pm ET, but was moved up to 6:20pm ET, presumably to have the announcement make the evening news.

    Coincidentally, John Edwards sent out a request for money today for one of his causes, College for Everyone. The e-mail, which went to everyone who got e-mails from his presidential campaign, is below. Will the media ask if there’s a connection between the two?

    I want to begin by thanking each of you for all of your support and commitment over the last year. It has meant so much to Elizabeth and me. We have been very busy since January working on the causes that got us into the campaign in the first place — helping to build the One America we all believe in.

    You may have heard me talk about one of those programs called College for Everyone — a scholarship pilot project that Elizabeth and I started a few years ago in Greene County, North Carolina.

    [Goes into description of the program]

    That’s why I need your help today — with a tax-deductible donation of $10, $25, $50 or $75, whatever you can afford — to bring us one step closer to our goal of College for Everyone. By contributing now, you will help fulfill the college dreams of deserving students in Greene County and show the world that if we work together on big and important issues, change is possible.

    How much more money do you think he’ll raise with his endorsement of Obama today?

  397. Edwards could not get rural votes to John Kerry. He definitely won’t get working class white votes to BHO. so the endorsement is meaningless.

  398. Part III of the Evelyn Pringle transcript of the Rezko trial and The depth of the BHO involvment is due out tomorrow 5/14/08
    Announced a little while ago.

    opednews.com

  399. The DNC has become the party of insiders

    ——————————————————————————–

    The Dnc has officially become the party of insiders that use every means necessary to push their candidates and objectives…. disenfranchisement of states, control of the left wing media, using pundits as media cons, billionaire donors who create left wing organizations, purchasing of super-delegates, propaganda, inciting racism, using subliminal sexism, and topping the will and want of the people to create a radical agenda.

    This is not the party of the clintons anymore.. this has become the party of the george soros and nancy pelosi.
    Obama is nothing more than their yes puppet they have been breeding since 2004.

  400. dot48 Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    and they think that Elizabeth Edwards can bring in female …

    not this one. JE and EE are now dead to me

    To me, too. The democratic party is dead to me, Naral is dead to me, MSM is dead to me, and the list goes on.

    The Republicans are going to be courting our votes.

  401. what time is hillary on CNN situation room with wolf??

    is this at the same time BO/JRE are to be announcing??

  402. birdgal…….GOP won’t need to court me if Hillary is not our nominee and she doesn’t run as a Indy

    I will hop on that GOP bus so fast it will make the dem party’s head spin!

  403. hillary on cnn now
    and i guess they will break away to bo shortly……so yep no wonder bo rescheduled that endorsement!

    he’s planning to high jack her interview time………asshole!

  404. confloyd Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    Birdgal and Hillbilly LOver, I am only voting for Hillary, anyone besides her will not work. I never like Edwards and if people are going to be fooled by him then so be it. I will be with McCain, I personally if what I have said on my above post happens, I hope McCain will offer Veep to Hillary or maybe cabinet position. I think its time for Hillary and Bill to start helping the Republicans beat this team of mobsters!

    I will be on the band wagon ALSO I am not giving up hope with Hillary

  405. oh man cnn just sucks big time!

    they are split screening her interview with BO rally with edwards with the “breaking news” “edwards to endorse obama” below

    I will NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!!!!

  406. former Democratic rival John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama at a rally this evening in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Edwards joins Bill Richardson and Chris Dodd as the third former Democratic presidential candidate to endorse Obama.

    i got this at fox

    so all these men ,,showing off

  407. We got us another “uniter not a divider” just like Dubya Bush said he was about this time in the nominating process in 2000…and look how that turned out.

    Do people NEVER learn from history? Bush was one of the most divisive presidents we’ve ever had. Look how BO is behaving…dividing in down and nasty ways…going for the jugular…parading former loyal Clinton supporters before the press as his now. Rubbing it in. Now that’s really uniting all of us isn’t it?

    Does BO really think that will make us want to support him. If so, he is surely not the sharpest knife in the drawer. That ol’ boy’s blade needs sharpening. And I refuse to turn my back on my home town where white guys call each other ol’ boy every day. Actually it is more a term of inclusion and friendship. So don’t anyone start jumping on me. It is not in the least RACIAL. It’s the way my family, town and state talks in a Jeff Foxworthy kind of way. It’s good ol’ boy talk and it’s funny.

    And while I”m on a roll, I’m sick up to my eyeballs with all the slinging out racist titles to everyone who does not support BO.
    I’m sick of what they have done to the Clinitons. Many of us will NOT ever, ever forget what has been done to them and the rest of us.

    As for NARAL, I just got a request for money in the mail with CLAIRE MCCASKILL’s name included on a form I should send to her. WHOA! Do they realize that that cooked their goose even before I knew they were backing BO. Anything with Claire McCaskill’s name on it is toast in my book.

    There are consequences for actions. Most people have L-O-N-G memories. Bet you all are keeping a “list” as well.

  408. How to connect these dots????
    1 – HRC pulverizes waffles in WVa by 41 points.
    2 – the next day DNC announces HRC has joined a joint fund-raising agreement with the DNC
    3 – Edwards endorses Waffles
    4 – waffles appears in Michigan and Florida and there are rumors of a revote
    5 – Cruella says HRC just wants to exit on a positive note and that Gore will be next to endorse Waffles

    What does this MEAN??????? Really????? i am so confused. 😥

  409. So I see how it is. Obama is the cash cow…they are planning on wringing out every last dollar before the cow dies. And it will die, trust me. This guy WILL NOT BE ELECTED!

  410. I am sitting here waiting for my oil change. Hillary is on. This lady said i am sick of listening to her, she has been listening to her all day. I turned around i saw red. I asked her what you dont’; like Hillary? She said yes she liked her but she has been listening to her all day. I told her better to listen to Hillary than Obama. She saw i was getting very angry

  411. SONIA4HILLARY Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    i think

    bo is gonna pick Claire McCaskil to be her vp

    that stupid woman

    If he does, it is a losing ticket. Both inexperienced political lackeys.

  412. Well, I also am going to say that I am not giving any money that will be given to the DNC. Not one red cent! I do not blame Hillary for what they are making her do.

  413. So tell me, what does all of these men who did not make President carry as weight here. Richardson got so few votes it was embarrassing, and the others the same or they would of continued on. Carter will be next, and he could not win a second term. Does it look like it is the has been group or what.

    Why would anyone think their endorsements would mean something.

    If they wanted to influence someone, they should have done it before their states voted.

    I guess I am just venting.

    NARA now that is a different story. I hear that a number of women are cancelling there support and there email information from this group. I wonder if that will send a message. We were told locally they would not endorse until after the election.

    So, another back door deal. He learned well in the Chicago Mafia.

  414. The Edwards endorsement is no big deal. It’s just another in a long line of meaningless endorsements, trotted out by the Obama campaign, every time he’s in big trouble. They always try and change the subject away from his inability to attract swing-voters, by parading Ted Kennedy, or Chris Dodd, or now John Edwards.

  415. Oh, I forgot to say, I guess that WV did not get the email, or they would have voted for O.

    Bring on KY.

  416. SONIA,

    former Democratic rival John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama at a rally this evening in Grand Rapids, Michigan

    Lipstick on a pig.

    ABC News just interviewed a guy on the ABC World News, asked him if the Edwards endorsement made any difference, he said if Bambi is the nominee, he will still vote for McCain.

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    i have had enough with dnc shitt

    f all of them

  418. They’re in Michigan, so this decision must have been in the making a while before. John Edwards as always sounds fake.

  419. Berkeley Vox

    I like that. It is another in his long line of events, which want to portary that he really did not lose. I wonder how much longer the American voter will stand for this.

    He really did not lose WV by 41, because the endorsement of NARA, and Edwards are so much more important.

    Well, West Virginia, how do you feel about that? O did not even hardly (1 visit) come to your state, then he upstages your primary like this. When he comes around for your vote, if he gets the nod, you should tell him exactly what you think of him.

    I wonder why they are no longer staging large crowds for him?

    God I hate seeing an American Election staged like this.

  420. did I just read upstream that Brazile is saying Gore will endorse Obama soon. So I guess this is how Obama will have the nomination by May 20th. They can count Edwards delegates as theirs and with a good win in Oregon, they will have what they need!
    I think Hillary needs to send us all an e-mail with an explaination of what’s going on!

  421. Obama’s race baiting campaign, the media’s fawning over Obama, the DNC leadership’s decision to throw their support to Obama, the betrayals of Clinton supporters and Edward’s endorsement of Obama – all these just makes Hillary’s ultimate victory all the more sweeter.

    One blogger has said that if Hillary stays in the race, she wins. I believe this. In the end, people will realize that the only way to win is through Hillary and even those who have jumped on the Obama bandwagon will come begging to be included in Clinton’s winning team. All Hill supporters need to do is to work hard for the coming primaries to ensure a good showing.

    Again, all of these difficulties will just make Hillary’s ultimate victory all the more sweeter.

  422. sonia

    on the farm, my girlfriend and i would always put lipstick on the pig before he went on the spit LOL!!

    now i have a new visual of BO and JRE!!

  423. confloyd,

    that’s what i’m thinking, too . . . that edwards delegates will go to waffles, hrc will be allowed her last shining moment in KY and then the announcement will be made.

    i mean, what else can one think in light of the joint HRC-DNC fund raising agreement today, the down=playing of her stunning victory, NARFL endorsement of waffles, edwards . . .
    Please someone talk me out of this. 😥

  424. cj i haven’t been watching………did JRE really say one america???? cuz he has always said 2 americas

  425. djia Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
    sonia

    on the farm, my girlfriend and i would always put lipstick on the pig before he went on the spit LOL!!

    now i have a new visual of BO and JRE!!

    OH MY GOD

    SO FUNNY

    CAN I MAKE A JOKE
    I JUST REGISTERED with mccain website and

    man his website is slow like him and the colors r so black and white ,,,man ,,its just like war room ,,i got scared and came back

    we will fight till the end

  426. Honestly,

    based on Hillary’s amazing speech last night, I highly doubt that she is giving up after Kentucky. I think it is more likely that the DNC, Obama, and his merry thugs are just trying to rap her knuckles for daring to take over Obama’s positive news cycle for even 30 seconds and/or for her throwing wrench after wrench at the DNC’s grand master plan to overthrow the world!

  427. Actually, it’s been reporteed Elizabeth wanted nothing to do with this endorsement. She did not travel with John.

  428. I can’t hear what the idiot is saying so keep me informed!
    I am 3 years younger than Hillary and I was around for the initial Women’s liberation movement. There were sit-in’s, protests and all kinds of statements back then. It’s time caz the boys are getting out of hand again. We need to unite and make a some statements!

  429. We have to get the popular vote. Is it possible to get the popular vote lead without counting Michigan? or Florida with the remaining contest? I know in Puerto Rico that they vote in huge numbers.

  430. Matthews on “older women” who “get really angry at me”: “[T]hey usually have a hard time figuring out what the fact I was wrong on, but that’s OK”

    http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200805130010

    During the May 13 edition of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, guest host Chris Matthews, also host of MSNBC’s Hardball, stated: “If you talk to people, older women, and I don’t mean older than me, but maybe my age and older, and you talk to them, and they get really angry at me, of course. They get — we have nice arguments, and I try to be respectful and say, ‘Well, you know, that’s a point of view,’ and I say, ‘If I ever get anything wrong on the air, let me know, on a fact.’ And they usually have a hard time figuring out what the fact I was wrong on, but that’s OK.”

  431. this endorsement is just like when they marched out the drunken uncle teddy kennedy and gang and Hillary still won MA!! 😀

  432. I really think I’m going to be ill.

    I just tuned to Lou Dobbs and ALL cable networks and FOX are covering Waffles Michigan speech.

    Previously, while turning to CNN to see HRC’s interview I heard Cadaverdy’s question of the day and yup, it was about HRC not knowing the party’s over and why won’t she go home.

    Sorry everyone. I’m depressed.

  433. Edwards, just another politician with no balls. If he had balls, he would have endorsed a few weeks ago before his primary. I’m sticking with the one politician who has testicular fortitude, Hillary!

    Till the end. When we address her as Madame President.

    Don’t believe the hype.

  434. Guys, hey, just got in.

    You are aware Pastor Manning was on Hannity (radio) today swearing Omama and Rev Wright are closet homos and were getting it on together, right?
    He says he has definitive proof, he wouldn’t reveal it at this time.
    Hannity asked if he was 100% sure, he said “how about a million %.”
    You decide for yourself if the Pastor sounds like a man of his word;

    youtubeDOTCOM/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

    Also, apparently Hill sys we’re headed for overtime in her Situation room INT.

    John Who endorsed? Please. Only thing we could’ve used him for was NC.

  435. LOL…another throwing the sink at Hillary moment. Obama and the DNC must hate that she is still standing strong and will continueto no matter what they try.

    She is indeed the new “Iron Lady!”

  436. open the cattle gates for the loosers to come out
    folks these are all looser who scream been paid by obombummer

    kerry edwards mcgovern dean kennedy richardson

    carter gore next ..

  437. I know I cannot ask this of this women, as she is fighting her own battle. However, if she endorsed Senator Clinton, it would restore my faith and negate his endorsement However, I am sure that is sheer fantasy on my part.

    Remember, I for one knew they all would do this. Gore is not the last, as Carter will follow.

    Waht are they? Other than Carter, nom made it to the Presidency. Carter was not re-elected by the voters. So what great inflence do they have with voters? I guess they inflence the SDs. I wonder how the Voters feel about that. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Democratic Party.

  438. basil 9, i know its easy to get depressed, can you imagine how Hillary feels. I wish she would get mad though!

  439. we are a HUGE voting block!!! WE HAVE CONTROL AND THEY KNOW IT!

    bo may get his STOLEN NOMINATION……..but he will NEVER!!! EVER!!!! GET THE CROWN!!!

  440. There is only one week of voting left in Oregon, and you can make the difference. Hundreds of supporters from across the country are grabbing their keys as we speak to travel to Oregon to help get out the vote for Hillary.

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    CAN I SCREAM AND CRY ???

    THIS WOMAN IS STILL WINNING ,,SHE IS A LOYAL DEM AND THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR .

    SOMEONE PLS CALL ME SO I CAN YELL AND SCREAM

    I NEED SOMEONE TO LISTEN TOO

  441. djia, you are right he will not get the crown, because we all are going to be the best McCain supporters they ever had! LOL!

  442. blue dem,
    She said they were headed for overtime? Really? Do you think she knew the Edwards endorsement was scheduled for later?
    About Manning, I heard Hannity interview him today and he was going AFTER manning’s allegations about Waffles homosexuality, calling him trash, and saying those are unfounded allegations and that’s why people won’t go into politics.
    Hannity is supposed to have something about TUCC’s magazine, Trumpet, showing Waffles on the cover 3 times, once with farrakhan.
    What does that mean about HRC signing the joint fund-raising agreement with the DNC?

  443. I NEED FREAKING CHEESECAKE
    JUST WHEN I MANAGED TO LOOSE 5 POUNDS FROM MY BUTT

    I AM SICK OF THIS STUPID MEN WORLD,,DNC,,AND OBAMAS FEVER

  444. basil,blue dem

    edwards told hillary before hand so i am sure she knew before her interview with wolf

  445. I was very depressed watching that, albeit he had some kind words for Hillary. How smug Obama looked even when he denied Michigan it’s votes. Edwards. like others, just hoping to get a slot with the perceived winning team….he actually spent more time talking about his ideas than OB’s….still, I am depressed and my evening ruined.

  446. Pro-Choice Women’s Group Says NARAL is Wrong
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:38:56 PM EST
    Tags: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama (all tags) Share This:
    Press Release from the National Women’s Political Caucus: (received by e-mail)

    The National Women’s Political Caucus is disappointed to learn of NARAL Pro-Choice America’s endorsement of Senator Obama today. The Caucus knows Hillary Clinton to be a clear leader and a consistent champion of the issues that NARAL and NWPC have in common. We believe that this announcement at this time will divide the choice community at a time when we need to stand united.

    As a lawyer, advocate, First Lady, and Senator, Hillary Clinton has stepped up and stood out on matters important to women. When it comes to each woman’s ability to make the most personal of life decisions, Hillary has been a consistent and reliable advocate for a woman’s right to choose. In fact, she has received numerous awards from both NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

  447. Well everyone what do we have to do to get her the nomination. Lets talk about the remaining supers and what we need to do to get there votes. Can we still get the popular vote without michigan or Florida?

  448. yep dija you are right we are the voting block millions of women men the poor and working class
    yep and they know it….
    sp there dirty tricks willbackfire in montana sd kentucky pr…and i say it will be real close in oregon.

    Bo will not win…

  449. again something from talkleft

    John Edwards Endorsement: Thread Three
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:48:39 PM EST

    He starts with issues, which is odd, since the Obama and Hillary are so similar on them.

    Update: He’s not mentioning one distinction between Hillary and Obama. He’s just reciting Democratic values. If you didn’t know he was going to endorse Obama, you would have no idea he wasn’t going to end by endorsing Hillary.

    Now he says the voters have made their choice and there is one man who knows how to create change and it is Obama. So that’s the reason for endorsing Obama.

    It’s not about ending the race, not about who would be a better President or who can better beat McCain. [More…]

    The rest of his endorsement is not about Obama but a repeat of his own campaign speeches about One America and poverty.
    ****
    I heard no reason to support Obama over Hillary other than ending the race and unifying the party, which he calls “One America.”

    It’s over. It could just as easily have been Hillary standing next to him receiving the endorsement. Did anyone hear an explanation of why Obama would be a better candidate to win against John McCain?
    ****

  450. ok i need to meditate for a few minutes……I think i need some sun…..I have SAD today

    be back in a few

  451. I am not against the gay establishment, i have gay friends, but I am not in favor of this jumping back and forth stuff. Either your gay or not gay. If you are gay don’t be ashamed, come out with it, don’t try and hide it because it does untold damage to innocent parties, kids, wives, husbands and etc.
    If BO and the ole REv. has something going and they are having a lover’s quarrel, how many others in BO camp are on the down low and how is this good for a President to be mixed up in!!

  452. Lets contact pro-choice womens group and stand behind them and hope that Naral realizes that they screwed up! Most of all the comments were all very upsetting towards their choice. I hope they realize this!

  453. djia Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
    lou’s pissed!! you can just tell …….tell it like it is Lou!!

    Why?

  454. Because the party bigwigs rigged this election from the get-go and played us. Made us think we all were part of the “process” when we never really were.

  455. Washington Post, explaining why the Edwards endorsement is meaningless fluff:


    Former Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) decision to endorse Sen. Barack Obama’s (Ill.) presidential candidacy is sure to draw wall-to-wall media coverage over the next 12 hours or so.

    But, what impact — in practical terms — will it have for Obama’s chance at both the Democratic nomination and the presidency?

    The short answer is: less than you might think.

    As we’ve seen time and time again throughout the 2008 presidential race, endorsements — even those as high profile as this one — have less impact than initially thought.

    Sen. Ted Kennedy’s (Mass.) endorsement of Obama was covered as though it would effectively end the race, but in the end the Illinois senator wound up losing Massachusetts to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) on Feb. 5. Outgoing Iowa governor Tom Vilsack (D) was a major Clinton backer, but his support didn’t keep the New York senator from finishing in third place in the state.

    The general rule of thumb on endorsements is that even the most popular politician struggles to transfer his or her base of supporters en masse to another candidate.

  456. HillBillyLover Says:

    May 14th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
    Because the party bigwigs rigged this election from the get-go and played us. Made us think we all were part of the “process” when we never really were.

    Guess who is going to get the laugh laugh

  457. winhillary :The two articles by Evelyn Pringle about Curtain Time for BHO,are listed on a site just a little below yours by djia. partsI and II. Pringle says Part III will be released tomorrow,Thur 5/15/08

    Thanks ABM90

  458. Pat Buchanan calling BO “Adlai”. hehe

    JBStones, Why let a weasling worm like edwards ruin yuor night? The Democrats have half a party just like him.
    Surely you’ve noticed. Shake it off.

    Basil,
    Of course Hannity went at the Pastor, who never took a backward step. Hannity, who spent most of the interview and plenty of time afterwards saying how uncomfortable he was with accussations w/o proof, nonetheless happily had the Pastor on his show, gave him plenty of airtime, and dollars to donuts he’ll be back.
    You noticed Manning said he needed to be very careful, that these were ‘dangerous people’ he was dealing with.
    He also fully acknowledged he was susceptible for being sued for saying what he did today & what he would “at an opportune time’, as he termed it.
    You have watched the Pastor Manning video right? Doesn’t sound like a guy who pulls punches to me.

    Buchanan’s all over Matthews, says if BO wasn’t black he’d never have beaten Edwards. Calling CM on all his shit too.

  459. Ok imagine your a steel worker, working your ass off to pay the bills and you in the past supported Edwards because you thought he cared about the working class. This mans votes went to a women that showed a 70% exit poll from voters that were concerned with the economy and wanted her because of her cause and Bill Clintons past on helping the nations with economic trouble. This woman wins your state!Ok and the next damn day this man that you trusted (Edwards) votes for a guy that weeks ago said that they cling to guns and religion? Oh let me tell you Hill supporters there is some pissed of people in WV tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  460. confloyd,

    Well, I think we all knew despite his denials that BO had some of the Ole Reverend in him.

  461. hillbilly lover,

    *LOL*! i don’t remeber that group- guess they were popular during the years i spent practicing woodwinds and piano for hours evey day, or rehearsing for gigs. ya know – i never had a tv during that phase of my life and i’m close to getting rid of the one i have now. if this sh!t is gonna fly guess i’d rather remain oblivious. 😥

    Love that picture.

  462. blue dem,

    Thanks for the Pat report. He’s my main man. *LOL*

    Yeah, I’ve seen a couple of Mannings videos. He’s got his own website.
    But I don’t believe anything until I see proof.

    BTW – what did you mean the other day when you said you used to “work the line?”

    What is that? I’m curious.
    . .

  463. I hope no one is stressing about Edwards. Name an endorsement that has come out for Obama and has made a difference? NO ONE. I guess Obama was really scared about Kentucky. This does nothing.

  464. The morons from MSNBC keep repeating that BO has GE strategy of winning NM, NV and CO and that he does not need to win OH and PA. The idiots do not seem to realize HRC won NM and NV. What a joke?

  465. Lets do the math guys what will happen do you think with the dnc at the end of the month? Can she get the popular vote still?

  466. Was that really their name? Undisputed Truth??????

    BTW – The plum-head has lost all interest in nests and eggs and is no longer attacking me. Guess I can put the Madonna iron-woman bra back in storage.

    *LOL*

  467. Yeah, I’d like to through out my TV too, but I bought a 60″ one before this election started. I think I’ll block the stations. My poor father who is 85, desparately tries to boycott all the channels I tell him too. He just shakes his head and puts it on one I will let him watch. Now its gotten down to ABC and FOX. He’s running out of places to watch! LOL!!

  468. Hillbillylover, thats what BO is, a one hit wonder. Now his hit is going down in the charts! 🙂

  469. winhillary,

    Even more important – what’s gonna happen at the Rules and Bylaws committee meeting headed by cruella on May 31?

    Caroline, all, sorry i got down – it’s more about how HRC has been rendered invisible by the media – it’s sickening.
    Dobbs just said she had a decisive victory last night but you’d never know it by the headlines.

    Goodwin, Ben Smith and Zimmerman on Dobbs now.

  470. Kennedy endorsement for Massachusetts
    Shriver endorsement for California
    Sen. Casey endorsement for PA
    Rockefeller endorsement for WV…

  471. She would have the popular vote lead after Puerto Rico but the die is cast. The Dem party bastards are going to deny her the nomination. Is Hillary going to fight after June 3rd?? I am doubtful.

  472. Hillary said as long as we stand by her, she’ll stand by us, Clintondem99

    :::::::::standing:::::::::::

  473. Basil,
    Was talking about editing, which I’ve done in various forms over the years. As I said, you might never know it from my posts 🙂

    BTW, those SOBs didn’t post 100% of the vote until almost 4am.

    RJK, you nailed it around1:30-2. Awesome.

  474. :::::::::::::standing alone, looking around::::::::::::::::

    (humming I’m still standing by Elton John)

  475. Dobbs on the dem race and the Waffles bias.

    He says this is a decision by the DNC about who should be the nominee. It’s a rollover by the elites.

    Why is the press going along with the storyline that the race is over? he asks.
    Does democracy no longer exist?
    Zimmerman says the math shows HRC can still get the popular vote and that is a big deal to SD’s.

  476. Damn ClintonDem99, that hurt.

    So you think she WILL win the popular vote, then pack it in?

    She was talking ‘overtime’ today, though I’m yet to see the interview myself.

  477. do they not realize that those states they intend to win with are heavy latino’s??????

    and they went for hillary!!! and will go mc cain if she does not have the nomination??!!!

  478. :::::::singing now, LOUD::::::::::

    You could never know what it’s like
    Your blood like winter freezes just like ice
    And there’s a cold lonely light that shines from you
    You’ll wind up like the wreck you hide behind that mask you use

    And did you think this fool could never win
    Well look at me, I’m coming back again
    I got a taste of love in a simple way
    And if you need to know while I’m still standing you just fade away

    Don’t you know I’m still standing better than I ever did
    Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
    I’m still standing after all this time
    Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind

    I’m still standing yeah yeah yeah
    I’m still standing yeah yeah yeah

    Once I never could hope to win
    You starting down the road leaving me again
    The threats you made were meant to cut me down
    And if our love was just a circus you’d be a clown by now

  479. Personally I LOVE the popular vote argument in the context of a convention fight.

    Everyone gets it. It’s simple, as basic as it gets. She won the VOTE. They can talk delegates and party rules all they want.
    Public opinion, which I believe would weigh HEAVILY with SD’s, will side with Hill.

    No?

  480. Yay! Djia!!!

    :::::::::singing and STANDING with Djia like TWO drunken sailors:::::::::::::

    Anyone else?

  481. For any of you that are lurking that need a reminder:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4xKlbeHLf4

    For the love of money (O’Jays)

    Money money money money, money (x6)
    Some people got to have it
    Some people really need it
    Listen to me y’all, do things, do things, do bad things with it
    You wanna do things, do things, do things, good things with it
    Talk about cash money, money
    Talk about cash money- dollar bills, yall

    For the love of money
    People will steal from their mother
    For the love of money
    People will rob their own brother
    For the love of money
    People can’t even walk the street
    Because they never know who in the world they’re gonna beat
    For that lean, mean, mean green
    Almighty dollar, money

    For the love of money
    People will lie, Lord, they will cheat
    For the love of money
    People don’t care who they hurt or beat
    For the love of money
    A woman will sell her precious body
    For a small piece of paper it carries a lot of weight
    Call it lean, mean, mean green

    Almighty dollar

    I know money is the root of all evil
    Do funny things to some people
    Give me a nickel, brother can you spare a dime
    Money can drive some people out of their minds

    Got to have it, I really need it
    How many things have I heard you say
    Some people really need it
    How many things have I heard you say
    Got to have it, I really need it
    How many things have I heard you say
    Lay down, lay down, a woman will lay down
    For the love of money
    All for the love of money
    Don’t let, don’t let, don’t let money rule you
    For the love of money
    Money can change people sometimes
    Don’t let, don’t let, don’t let money fool you
    Money can fool people sometimes
    People! Don’t let money, don’t let money change you,
    it will keep on changing, changing up your mind.

  482. Well, we now have a 3-way race.

    Republicans have McCain, Democrats have Obama, and smart people have Hillary.

    Perot almost made it — Hillary can go all the way. I think that the alternative to wining the nomination should definitely not be the VP but the independent, women’s, progressive candidate.

    Obama cannot get my vote under any circumstance.

    And what’s this nonsense about Obama being a leader in pro-choice for the 10 minutes he’s been in the senate? Hillary has been for 6 more years plus 8 in the White House. Dumping her sends a signal to all pro-choice politicians and women.

    Dems prefer Clinton to Obama significantly. So now the majority have been thrown under the bus as have KY, OR, SD, and MT. We’ve already held 2 primaries that don’t count — we just added WV to the ones that don’t matter — what’s 4 more plus Puerto Rico.

  483. Notice how Obama is depending on the Edwards endorsement to bring blue-collar voters to him RATHER THAN ACTUALLY WORKING TO WIN THEM ON HIS OWN.

  484. I’m glad “Pretty” did it. It does not do anything for Waffle’s problem and now Hillary won’t be putting him in her cabinet.
    Gore will NOT endorse until it is settled. Carter might; maybe he wants the VP spot–after all Carter can still run for VP! He has a term left, unlike BC. (Joking)
    ABC was great in their reporting of this. The rest are a sslicks like Pretty and would sell their souls for a hair cut.

  485. Shenanigans,

    Well, I’m limping but trying to get back up. Expect to be standing again shortly.
    😳

  486. R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give it to me, give it to me, give it to me……oh, Respect!!!!
    :::::::::::::::::pulling up limping Basil and shaking hips:::::::::::

  487. Not sure if you saw this from RCP;

    Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)**

    Obama / Clinton / Spread
    16,680,827 47.6% 16,710,298 47.7% Clinton +29,471 +0.08%

  488. NEW ARTICLE UP. It’s on Edwards and what we need to do to get to Denver. We have an opportunity here.

  489. Blue Democrat says:
    Not sure if you saw this from RCP;

    Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)**

    Obama / Clinton / Spread
    16,680,827 47.6% 16,710,298 47.7% Clinton +29,471 +0.08%
    —————-

    Oooooh Free-dom! Free-dom! Free-dom! Freeeeeeeeeeeeeee-dooom!!!
    Respect, just a little now…

  490. “Obama is depending on the Edwards endorsement to bring blue-collar voters to him”
    A blue-collar can smell a brown nose a mile away. If Edward was running for an office (orifice?) and BC endorsed him, it would make no difference in my vote even though I so much admire Bill.

  491. Blue Democrat, A part of me says she is going to fight but politically it is better for her to suspend her Campaign after June 3rd and go to the convention and get some of her issues in on the platform. IMHO BO would self distruct along with Obamabots. As for myself after being a loyal democrat for 30 years I am planning to split the ticket this year if HRC is not on it.

  492. ClintonDem,

    Thanks for your take.

    I prefer her to fight and get all of her issues on the platform by winning!

    Pastor Manning for VP!

  493. Please get me my morning coffee. I go to bed with WV on my mind, I get up and the entire world is topsy-turvy. All this stuff reminds me of the ABC movement in 1976. Anybody But Carter. When it became clear that a southern white moderate might actually win the nomination, the entire liberal establishment (The Party) put on a similar dog and pony show with major endorsements and such. It backfired. It just made voters all the more determined to vote for Carter. That is what happened recently in OH, TX, PA, IN, and WV. And the votes are not decreasing for Hillary but increasing. Of course the elites are scared. People are mad!

    But come on, we are not dealing here with some media show, but actual elections where real people decide who they want as the nominee. Typical of elites, they often forget this. Once in a while they are reminded by voters who do have the final say. This is one of those times.

    If the voters buy into the endorsement stuff, OK it hurts. We won’t know until next week. I feel that the revolt against the elite will continue. I think they know so too.

    If MI and FL re-vote, Hillary will win both.

    As long as she stays in the race, people will rally around her as the anti-establishment candidate, if for no other reason. And voters are not in a good mood this year.

    She needs to win in the popular vote. This is it and not much else.

    Please keep your spirits up. Don’t give up until the boss says so. Until then, it’s GOTV.

  494. Let’s keep our eyes on the prize. Hillary in the White House

    The Plan is clear cut and simple:

    Work like heck to get her the nomination this year

    If we fail, bloody Obama enough that he can’t win the GE

    Vote McCain (don’t have to necessarily leave the Party to do that)

    Two years from now, well, you know the rest of the story.

  495. Have we all forgotten, in the GE Edwards did not even carry his own state.

    In addition, I am from NM, they are in here big time, but McCain is standing at our borders. The State Convention was a big fight over that one noncommitted delegate (State Chair was suppose to nominate two noncommitted which turned out to be two Obama people, and the LTG brought in the lawyers). The one noncommitted has already announced for O. They are fighting in court about the second position.

    The LTG is quite a leader here, and the Hillary people were here in force for the State Meet. REMEMBER HILLARY WON NM.

    They are making a lot of people here made with the way they are gerry rigging NM.

    I think McCain is going to make some big in roads here.

    Remember Kerry did not win NM, Bush did. Here we go again.

  496. I would like to suggest a new strategy to the Hillary Team. We know Gore and Carter are going to go. So lets just have a news conference, and acknowledge that they are Obama endorsers. That way, we will jump the gun, steal their thunder, and when it actually happens it will be, did that not already happen.

    I think we should do it right away. That way we control the factor, and the shock will go away.

    This is a poker game, and we need to draw their bluff or what ever you poker players say.

  497. How have I been dumped? Let me count the ways:

    As a woman, a senior, and a low-income voter.

    Who have I been dumped by? By MoveOn.org (an original member), NARAL (a long-time supporter and worker) and health-care advocates (Michael Moore, John Edwards)

    JE can pay for EE’s treatment so the hell with the rest of us. So much for populism.

  498. OK….I vented. Now it’s back to backing Hillary until the last dog dies! (List of snarling canines available)

    Go Hillary!

  499. The best revenge is a HUGE vote for Hill from Oregon and Kentucky!!

    Let’s keep focused on the prize (popular vote lead) and get another LANDSLIDE victory!!

    So Everyone: please channel this energy and MAKE CALLS to OREGON and KENTUCKY tomorrow and this weekend!!!

    CALL, CALL, CALL!!!

    Oregon is voting already with mail-in ballots! From what I’ve heard, people are NOT on board with this Edwards endorsement. Let’s show ’em what Hillary’s got! Our time is NOW!!! Let’s go, team HILLARY!

    MAKE THOSE CALLS!!

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