A day too late, Obama trotted out the sad figure of John Edwards to cover up the humiliation Obama suffered in West Virginia.
Obama was humiliated in West Virginia. West Virginia rejected Obama, massively, despite all the attempts by Big Media to stuff Obama down their throats.
We never had much use for John Edwards. We never really bothered to write much about him. Only rarely during the campaign did we take note of his efforts.
It is possible that John Edwards might have had some influence if he had endorsed a candidate before the North Carolina primary. But John Edwards missed his chance by not endorsing before North Carolina. Big Media, not the voters, will be the only one impressed by today’s Edwards endorsement.
To us the John Edwards endorsement typifies what bothered us about John Edwards – he does what is easy. When the Iraq war was popular, John Edwards co-sponsored the Iraq authorization legislation. When big financial industry companies wanted a bankruptcy bill, John Edwards was there for them. The average joe and jane, the “little guy” had little clout in those talks.
When John Edwards was running for president however, John Edwards repudiated his entire past. John Edwards became the “I’m sorry” and the “I was wrong” candidate. On co-sponsoring the Iraq authorization legislation Edwards said “I was wrong.” On voting for the retrograde bankruptcy bill Edwards said “I was wrong.”
In months to come, prepare yourselves, John Edwards will say about his Obama endorsement: “I’m sorry. I was wrong”.
The endorsement by Edwards presents a major opportunity:
Clearly Obama trotted Edwards out today to change the conversation from the trouncing West Virginia handed him. More importantly, Superdelegates and the reality community realize that Obama has a big problem with white working class voters. So today Obama trotted out John Edwards to try to communicate with white working class voters. Obama wants to woo the white working class by proxy.
John Edwards as ambassador from Obama to the white working class will be as successful as ambassador Ted Kennedy when he was sent to woo the Latino community. John Edwards as ambassador from Obama to the white working class will be as successful as Ted Kennedy and John Kerry when they begged their own Massachusetts constitutents to vote for Obama.
Obama can trot out all the show horses he wants to get votes for him – but it won’t work. The problem is Obama. Obama is unelectable.
Which brings us to the major opportunity: John Edwards’ assignment will be to go to Kentucky on behalf of Obama to try to placate and fool white working class voters. A Hillary victory in Kentucky will demonstrate to Superdelegates, again, that white working class voters will not vote for Obama – no matter how many circus attractions Obama sends out on his behalf.
So now, in Kentucky, Obama and Edwards will have to prove once and for all that they are not reviled by white working class voters. If John Edwards cannot deliver Kentucky to Obama, Superdelegates will once again know that Obama will not get white working class votes – period. Obama is unelectable.
Hillary will make her case personally to Kentucky voters. Hillary will not need circus attractions and clowns from outside Kentucky. Hillary and those who know Kentucky best will make her case in Kentucky:
After a landslide victory in West Virginia, the Clinton Campaign today announced that former Kentucky Governors Wendell Ford, Paul Patton, John Brown, and Julian Carroll are endorsing Hillary for President. The endorsements demonstrate the widespread support Hillary continues to receive throughout the Bluegrass State.
“The Presidency is the hardest job in the world and the American people deserve a leader who can rise to the challenge,” said former Governor Wendell Ford. “In the thirty years I have known Hillary, she has consistently proven she can deliver results. Whether fighting to reform our nation’s health care system or offering a responsible solution to ending the War in Iraq, Hillary has proven time and again she has what it takes to get the job done.”
“The people of Kentucky need a President who has the strength, experience, and leadership to lead on day one,” said former Governor Julian Carroll. “My friendship with Hillary goes back more than 30 years and I know she’ll make a fine President. Hillary is the leader that Kentucky needs and I look forward to helping deliver victory for her on Tuesday.”
“I am proud to support Hillary today,” said former Governor John Y. Brown. “I had the opportunity to serve with President Clinton and I got to know Hillary as a person. With the complex problems that have been created over the last eight years, I would feel most comfortable with Hillary because she has the skills and experience to handle them.”
“I am honored to have the support of these distinguished Kentucky governors, and look forward to working with them to jumpstart the economy and rebuild the middle class,” Clinton said.
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Berkeley Vox has it right once again:
To Do List:
1) Make calls for Hillary, to Oregon and Kentucky voters: http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/
2) Donate! If you’re maxed out or strapped for cash, ask 5 of your friends and family to donate to Hillary
3) Blog! Get the word out, here, on other sites, and in letters to the editor to big Oregon and Kentucky newspapers. Talk about the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan, and the unfair treatment of those states’ voters by Dean and the DNC. New Hampshire and South Carolina moved their primaries, but received preferential treatment and weren’t punished at all.
first?
Hillary Clinton is going to be our next President
so lets piss off the media and show them, its the voters who count, not pundits and hollow endorsements.
ADMIN……GREAT article!
this one line says it all….IMHO
“Obama can trot out all the show horses he wants to get votes for him – but it won’t work. The problem is Obama. Obama is unelectable.”
Great article admin….let’s keep working.
The voters of WV spoke…on to Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana, South Dakota, DENVER and beyond!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwARpaKHx_w
I have to say i love you all………on the previous post your all so funny gyrating picking basil up off the floor and all….LOL!!!
I’m there with ya !
Bill O talking about racism and BO and SEXISM against Hillary!! wooooooo hooooooo!
ClintonDem,
Thanks for your take in prior thread.
I prefer her to fight and get all of her issues on the platform by winning!
Pastor Manning for VP!
We’re not done, we just had a huge win last night. HUGE. We will have a huge win in Kentucky, we will get MI and FL delegates and votes at the end of the month. We have a chance, we can’t let Hillary down, she’s fighting for us, we’ll continue fighting for her.
The we’ll all meet at the convention, figure a way to get us all there, and have our voices heard. We’ll all wear pink, big pink. Even the men? LOL
Pissed off about the NARAL endorsement? me too!
Log into hillaryrapidresponders.com
NARAL’s Endorsement: Media Advisory from Clinton Campaign and Take Action Tips
On the day, Senator Obama receives NARAL’s endorsement, he uses the term “Sweetie” when addressing a female journalist.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Juy9NwI8_i0&hl
Great vetting by NARAL!
Ways to Take Action:
Participate in a live webchat on Friday, May 16 at 3:00pm Eastern (12:00pm Pacific) with Elizabeth Shipp and Nancy Keenan on why NARAL endorsed Barack Obama.
Submit your questions by Thursday, May 15 to get priority status.
Submit questions here – h t t p : / /chat.prochoiceamerica.org/content/interview/detail/1664/
Post your comments here: http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/feedback.html and choose “Unsubscribe from Email” or “Donation Question” on the dropdown for the Subject category.
Post comments here: http://www.blogforchoice.com/archives/2008/05/naral-prochoice-6.html
Withdraw your membership dues – have NARAL charge back your credit card with your contribution amount.
Have all your Pro-Choice and Hillary Supporter friends write to the National NARAL office – field@ProChoiceAmerica.org
Leave a verbal message at the National NARAL office – (202) 973-3000
***MEDIA ADVISORY***
6:15 p.m. TONIGHT: Members of Congress To Hold Press Conference On Hillary’s Strong Pro-Choice Record
Clinton National Campaign Co-Chair Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones and other Members of Congress will hold a press conference at 6:15 p.m. EDT tonight to discuss Hillary Clinton’s strong pro-choice record.
Members voicing their support today for Clinton’s advocacy on behalf of a woman’s right to choose include, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, Rep. Nita Lowey, Rep. Jane Harman, Rep. Diane Watson, Rep. Diana DeGette, Rep. Doris Matsui, Rep. Laura Richardson, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Rep. Louise Slaughter, Rep. Allyson Schwartz, Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand, Rep. Corrine Brown, Rep. Yvette Clarke, Rep. Darlene Hooley, Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, Rep. Linda Sanchez, Rep. Tammy Baldwin, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, Rep. Hilda Solis, Rep. Nydia Velazquez, Rep. Betty Sutton, Rep. Grace Napolitano and Rep. Shelley Berkley.
Wednesday, May 14
6:15 p.m. EDT
Members of Congress Discuss Hillary’s Strong Pro-Choice Record
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
Second Floor Conference Room
430 South Capitol Street
Washington, DC
TOGETHER, WE WILL WIN!
Stay updated: http://www.hillaryresponders.com
You naughty people are getting us in hot water again. You keep getting things done. Don’t you know being active gets us in trouble?
Let’s follow Berkeley Vox’s advice as outlined in our article.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
As with contacting Superdelegates now Big Pink is getting “blamed” for the problems at NARAL:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/naral_pca_members_outraged_at_obama_endorsement.php
“From their own members and readers of their blog. Try to find more than a handful of comments to their PAC endorsement post that aren’t angry…
(Note: some of the swarm appears to be directed…[LINK to HillaryIs44])
N, Miller: “I have never been so disgusted. How dare you claim to represent pro-choice women and then turn your back on one of the most influential women’s right advocates in recent history?”
Shameful: “I am insulted, as all pro-choice Democratic women should be, that Naral would endorse Senator Obama.”
Jon: “You could have waited until after the Oregon primary.”
Alyssa: “NARAL has completely lost my support.”
Mare: “Et tu Brute!”
The anger is focused at NARAL for now, and these women would probably never vote for John McCain, but Barack Obama _does_ need them to vote, and should he win the nomination, he will have to work to integrate them into his coalition. Hillary Clinton’s exit, if it comes, must be treated carefully.”
# shenanigans Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
The we’ll all meet at the convention, figure a way to get us all there, and have our voices heard. We’ll all wear pink, big pink. Even the men? LOL
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email me if you want to go on the list of who would like to go to convention….. luvcowboys63@yahoo.com
I will take some info from you…..and try to coordinate ride shares
i am awaiting word on the camp ground in colorado springs…. I think we may get a bunch of sites and camp it out ..dressed in pink!
Go on over to REZKO WATCH and take a peek. The cartoon of BO and Edwards just about sums up Edwards to a tee. That image of John will forever define him in my mind. Smile…don’t know how to make a smile face…sorry.
Yes, shall go to Denver, and I shall wear pink!
ADMIN,
I needed that post. Very motivating.
Shenanigans,
I don’t know whose hips you’re gyrating, yours or mine. *LOL*
Thanks again.
The anger is focused at NARAL for now, and these women would probably never vote for John McCain, but Barack Obama _does_ need them to vote, and should he win the nomination, he will have to work to integrate them into his coalition. Hillary Clinton’s exit, if it comes, must be treated carefully.”
There will be no Clinton exit. She is going to win. Watch!!!
Will this ever end? I mean seriously? Edwards for OBama? Come on! This is really a downer
It’s too early in the day. I typed too slow. So this got on the last thread. So here it is again.
Please get me my morning coffee. I go to bed with WV on my mind, I get up and the entire world is topsy-turvy. All this stuff reminds me of the ABC movement in 1976. Anybody But Carter. When it became clear that a southern white moderate might actually win the nomination contest, the entire liberal establishment (The Party) put on a similar dog and pony show with major endorsements and such. It backfired. It just made voters all the more determined to vote for Carter.
That is what happened recently in OH, TX, PA, IN, and WV. And the votes are not decreasing for Hillary but moving up.
Come on, we are not dealing here with some media show, but actual elections where real people decide who they want as the nominee. Typical of elites, they often forget this. Once in a while they are reminded by voters who do have the final say. This is one of those times.
If the voters buy into the endorsement stuff, OK it hurts. We won’t know until next week.
If MI and FL re-vote, Hillary will win both.
As long as she stays in the race, people will rally around her as the anti-establishment candidate, if for no other reason. And voters are not in a pro-establishment mood this year.
She needs to win in the popular vote. This is it and not much else.
Please keep your spirits up. Don’t give up until the boss says so. Until then, it’s GOTV.
Woooo hoo, Basil!!! You put Elvis to shame with that hip acton.
He’s dead. I don’t know if that’s really a compliment.
I would have thought that after Hillary’s victory in WV, the endorsements would stop or at least slow. Now we’ve got Edwards and NARAL. I don’t get it. Did her historic victory yesterday mean nothing to these people?
Hillbilly lover, I’ll bring the bedazzler and we’ll put HILLARY in sparkles on our big pink shirts.
ADMIN…….we need to listen to Maya Angelou speaking on hillary AGAIN and again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxc_cT9quWw&feature=related
I feel Hillary needs to come back with a large endorsers whats the deal? Seriously?
Isnt Senator Byrd or Governor Manchin?
oh a bedazzler! how fun!!!
justmeinmountdorafl, there are not going to have any endorsement I think. Hillary has to do it by herself with our help. She will success.
Shenanigans, are those things still around? LOL!
The best revenge is a HUGE vote for Hill from Oregon and Kentucky!! THAT’S how we get back at these jerks!
So Everyone: please channel this energy and MAKE CALLS to OREGON and KENTUCKY!!!
Let’s keep focused on the prize (popular vote lead) and get another LANDSLIDE victory!!
CALL, CALL, CALL!!!
Oregon is voting already with mail-in ballots! So our time is NOW!!! Let’s go, team HILLARY!
The best revenge is a HUGE vote for Hill from Oregon and Kentucky!! THAT’S how we get back at these jerks!
So Everyone: please channel this energy and MAKE CALLS to OREGON and KENTUCKY!!!
Let’s keep focused on the prize (popular vote lead) and get another LANDSLIDE victory!!
CALL, CALL, CALL!!!
Oregon is voting already with mail-in ballots! So our time is NOW!!! Let’s go, team HILLARY!
Yes, the bedazzler is still around. Every once in awhile, we all need a little sparkle.
Check this out, guys. Just found it on americanresearchgroup.com. Dick Bennett is the pollster there.
A Surprise About Obama, Clinton, and Turnout
Conventional wisdom has it that Barack Obama’s primary victories are based on his ability to increase turnout.
A look at what happens when voter turnout increases in the primaries proves that this notion is wrong. In fact, Obama has had his greatest primary (and caucus) victories when turnouts have been low.
Obama received 66% of the primary vote in Georgia when 22.7% of all registered voters in the state voted in the Democratic primary. In Virginia, Obama received 64% of the primary vote when 21.1% of all registered voters in the state voted in the Democratic primary. In Mississippi, Obama received 61% of the primary vote when 24.4% of all registered voters in the state voted in the Democratic primary.
Hillary Clinton received 67% of the primary vote in West Virginia when 30.1% of all registered voters in the state voted in the Democratic primary. In Pennsylvania, Clinton received 55% of the vote when 27.7% of all registered voters in the state voted in the Democratic primary. In Ohio, Clinton received 54% of the primary vote when 30.5% of all registered voters in the state voted in the primary.
There are exceptions (such as Arkansas, Tennessee, and Rhode Island), but Clinton, and not Obama, tends to win in the states where turnouts are higher. The relationship is strong enough that Democratic primary turnout can be predicted using Clinton’s share of the vote.
–Dick Bennett
Maybe we should send more emails out to Carville, Edwards, NARAL, and all the rest of them to show exactly how most democrats feel.
Manchin in WV promised to endorse the winner in WV .
Get on the phone with his office .. I posted his number on last thread.
Call Senator Byrd and tell him the people of WVA spoke and he loves his people .. ask him to follow their lead.
Senator Robert C. Byrd
300 Virginia Street East
Suite 2630
Charleston, WV 25301
304-342-5855
Manchin in WV promised to endorse the winner in WV .
Get on the phone with his office .. I posted his number on last thread.
Call Senator Byrd and tell him the people of WVA spoke and he loves his people .. ask him to follow their lead.
Senator Robert C. Byrd
300 Virginia Street East
Suite 2630
Charleston, WV 25301
304-342-5855
let the GYRATING (CELEBRATING OUR VICTORIES) continue!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S-NXceBp-k&feature=related
This little “sweetie” will not forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8
Dennis Miller just said the Edwards endorsement is like getting endorsed by Ryan Seacrest
Man, is Elvis bedazzled….go, go Hillary go…go Hillary go….go go go….hillary be good
:::::::::gyrating and shaking right leg::::::::::
NARAL just threw hillary rodham clinton under the bus for the “man”… i just sent them an email. there are so many people and organizations that have shown their true colors during this campaign. people i have supported my entire life. i will never forgive any of them. i will never support any of them. i will never vote for any of them.
Yeah Blue, he called Edwards “an inch wide and an inch deep”! I laughed my ass off when I heard that!
shenanigans ……..living up to your name huh LOL!!!!!
Party on people!!!!
Adding to the TO DO list:
To Do List:
1) Make calls for Hillary, to Oregon and Kentucky voters: http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/
2) Donate! If you’re maxed out or strapped for cash, ask 5 of your friends and family to donate to Hillary
3) Blog! Get the word out, here, on other sites, and in letters to the editor to big Oregon and Kentucky newspapers. Talk about the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan, and the unfair treatment of those states’ voters by Dean and the DNC. New Hampshire and South Carolina moved their primaries, but received preferential treatment and weren’t punished at all.
4. Contact Byrd and Governor Manchin from WV regarding endorsements. And any local affilitation in our states.
Adding to TO DO list:
4. Contact Byrd and Gov Manchin in WV regarding their sd votes.
5. Contact all my local, state representatives to commit to Hillary or switch their votes.
man i missed that!! had the tv on mute cuz my kid called home from school……….KIDS!
6. Buy tent for campground to go to convention with the big pink party people in Denver.
do tents come in PINK???
4. (Or just squeeze Byrd’s oxygen tube until he agrees.)
Actually Byrd’s endorsement would carry serious weight I’d think.
He certainly knows this cabal (and all the other factions and factors at work).
Question is, is he part of it?
DJIA, only Barbie Dream Party tents.
7. Send Keith Olbermann a very special comment.
I don’t know if they come in pink?
…and light it on fire on his front porch.
Shenanigans,
Count me in for Denver.
djia, I sent you an email, you may want to check your spam folder.
Neetabug!!! We’ll have so much fun, together. You have a tendency to get me in trouble.
well………we can certainly get PINK spray paint
and i will check the spam folder !
OOoooh, Neetabug, I’m bringing that ummmm…….(sign I stole). Sssh.
I watched Hillary on Blitzer . NBC, and CBS and she is truly an inspiration to this male voter. It appears she will go the distance and try to get popular vote, but sadly. also seems ready to support BO . I wonder what the real strategy, if any, there is??? And why do we never get big endorsements after we win…why?
8. Send Chris Matthews something that’ll give him a thrill up his leg.
The new Reverend Wright inspired butt plug!
just got a email from JRE asking for money for his cause………I clicked the link to take my name off his mailing list
hope that sends a LOUD MESSAGE back to him!!
pisses me off , he dropped out of the race and didnt send one email…..till today…….and it was for money
I am so done with edwards!!
neetabug……..send me a email at luvcowboys63@yahoo.com
so i can add you to my list
shenanigans Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
OOoooh, Neetabug, I’m bringing that ummmm…….(sign I stole). Sssh.
PLEASE, PLEASE BRING IT.
This “sweetie” will never forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8
(We’ve Come A Long Way, Baby!)
hillbillie
they sell kids pink tents at wallmart! ….it could be our “special tent” in honor of Madam President Hillary Clinton!!
Sorry about the duplicate post–
djia Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
neetabug……..send me a email at luvcowboys63@yahoo.com
so i can add you to my list
I already did. I beat you
found pink tents here
shopping.yahoo.com/s:Tents%20&%20Canopies:140637-Image%20Color=Hot%20Pink:4168-Brand=Texsport
judas on hannity tonight ……..ewwwwwwwww grrrrrrrrr!
jb,
Why? Because they’re a bunch of friggin’ jackals, that’s why.
You’ll notice I never freak about SD’s & endorsements, and that’s because I think I see this all becoming one giant mind game, much more so than the nomination hinging on the particulars of delegate counts (though certainly we’ve gotta have the pop. vote), etc.
And because I still expect if Hill goes to Denver that BO will have been decimated by one scandal or another by then.
Then again I’m not very bright.
I’ll bring it if you promise to help me hold up the other end of that big ass sign in front of the Pepsi center in Denver for convention.
henry…..you’re so cool !
shenanigans
Did you have a good time in W VA?
Let me know if you are going to Denver also, We can fly there together
and i will photograph you with that sign
Blue Dem, excuse my Irish, but you are exactly right….mind fucking is what it is.
shenanigans Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I’ll bring it if you promise to help me hold up the other end of that big ass sign in front of the Pepsi center in Denver for convention.
I got you covered. That i would love to do That should piss them off big time
ok……..what is this sign??
Remember, I’m on the other side of the city, I’m right by the airport. You’ll have to hold my hand, I hate flying and I’m a real pain in the ass. But, it’s shorter than driving to Colorado.
Hannity to have new info
So Edwards is ALL about working-class and poverty? Horse$#!+
$$Ttrial Lawyer sold out his own hometown people (Dad worked in the mills, blah, blah, blah…) for the latte elitist. What’s in it for you JE? AG or VP?
Obama must like to lip-lock according to blogger at bottom of page on RealClearPolitics.
low down or down low?
Ummm…..the sign is a Hillary sign. One of those big ones that are about eight feet wide. I wanted it, they told me no. Then, well…I saw it and it was just sitting there all by itself. Real lonely. Sad, I rescued it.
how you going to bring camping stuff on a plane? LOL
good thing i have a pick up!
Real lonely. Sad, I rescued it.
well good for you!
curiousityhasme what new pictures
I meant what new information?
How big can a pink Barbie tent be?
judas is spewing such crap, oh its an important endorsement, will help with white blue collar voters in places like KY
see I told you!!!
shenanigans
big enough for your hillary sign to stay out of the rain
LOL……hannity ” what was it some people called you ?? Judas??”
djia, I sent you an email, don’t forget me, I want to go to!
go hannity!!! he’s pulling all the punches out on Judas tonight!
laughing at judas and his explanation as to why obama can’t get reagan democrats LOL
confloyd….i wouldn’t forget you!
This endorsement is a bunch of bologna, John Edwards is a two time loser.
I pist about NARAL, afterall, wasn’t it Hillary that gave that speech in China about the little girls. THere were sure alot of senators and house representatives that were mad about this endorsement.
How does BO think this endorsement would help him with us. There no other living icon for prolife than Hillary Clinton. The only other I can think of is Margaret Sanger, but I don’t keep up with that stuff!
# justmeinmountdorafl Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Will this ever end? I mean seriously? Edwards for OBama? Come on! This is really a downer
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Awww shoot, don’t despair. I don’t think this was some big surprise. Edwards is a bug that we hit that’s on the windshield. Just press the wiper fluid button. Ah, that’s better, all gone.
He could have had a bigger impact earlier, but he was way too careful. Not willing to stick his neck out. Even now, Obama is the “safe ” bet.
Our job is to prove that Obama was the wrong bet. It can be done by embarrassing the SDs into doing the right thing, for the party, and their own self-preservation. Exposing Obama’s lies and unelectability is part of this job ahead of us.
Onward ho!
I can’t wait, I need to get a pink Hillaryis44 shirt, I don’t have one. I love camping so it’ll be fun!!
hannity whip judas a@@ lol…go home richardson ride your horse because your state is for hillary!!!
jbstonesfan Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I watched Hillary on Blitzer . NBC, and CBS and she is truly an inspiration to this male voter. It appears she will go the distance and try to get popular vote, but sadly. also seems ready to support BO . I wonder what the real strategy, if any, there is??? And why do we never get big endorsements after we win…why?
There will be NO big endorsements. Forget about it. The establishment have picked their man. Hill will need the people to win this. There will be no more big endorsements.
clintondem,
i just don’t see what she would gain politically from dropping out. the he-menz Wimmin haterz senate club have dropped at pretence of professional courtesy. They’re not going to give her anything substantive in the platform, Obama could give a rat’s ass about promises anyway, and she knows it. she also knows that if she drops out, the Democrats lose the white house, that’s why she’s still in there to begin with. what does she have to gain politically?
confloyd don’t forget to send me a email at luvcowboys63@yahoo.com
and i will email you back
Wouldn’t we all just LOVE to see BO pick Richardson as his VP…NOW! Could that combo even win NM and IL? Yep…BO would win IL no matter what…he knows too much.
I already sent it, I have an different name on my e-mail, but have my handle here in the subject!
i think i missed it then…….can you resend
and put hillaryis44 in the subject line ….thanks!
how are we going to protest, signs, old fashioned sit ins, what? We may have to stare down the boys from the NOI and NBPP. I not scared though, many strong women have fought off fear before us! I just remember those pics of those ladies being cuffed for trying to get us the right to vote. Now we want the right to have our candidate treated fairly, justly and without malice.
I just watched the “sweetie” video. Is this man cracking up, or what? There is no telling what he would say. He deliberately and arrogantly insulted her because she asked a question.
Maybe it is an anger problem. I hope Fox will run it.
“Hannity to have new info”
What new info?! I LOVE new info!
Oklahomahills, He just plain doesnt think he should have to answer any questions. He believes he is above all that!
djia, I resent it, did you get it?
STRATEGERY:
# jbstonesfan Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
…It appears she will go the distance and try to get popular vote, but sadly. also seems ready to support BO . I wonder what the real strategy, if any, there is??? And why do we never get big endorsements after we win…why?
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jb,
a) http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/endorsements
shows she got some endorsements today. Enjoy them, they taste good.
b) Hillary and surrogates are just being oh-so-proper in their phrasing about “supporting whoever will be the nominee”. She’s already gotten a ton of shit for “ruining the party’s chances”, making Obama “unelectable”, etc. So she’s just taking that weapon out of their hand. Killing them with kindness.
c) Completely ignore any surrogate (or Hillary or Bill even) talking of VP. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama cannot work. The Odd Couple. “Can two people who hate each other to the core of their souls share a ticket?”. Yet, to pacify SDs and others who want the party to hold together, this is the kind of pacification and coddling they require. She’s just “working the room”. We mere mortals have little idea of the amount of ass-kissing and social in-fighting there goes on in these circles.
This is from a blogger on Hill;s site. from CNN
CNN is reporting from the Edward’s Camp, Edwards got in this to stop the story of Hillary’s big win in WV. The fact that Obama having big trouble with working class voters.
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so is this true i read this
edwards cannot have his name on any ballotts from here on out…i hope not that looser traitor..watch out north carolina your taxes are gonna go sky high
got it confloyd…….sent you a reply
neetabug Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
This is from a blogger on Hill;s site. from CNN
CNN is reporting from the Edward’s Camp, Edwards got in this to stop the story of Hillary’s big win in WV. The fact that Obama having big trouble with working class voters.
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DUH! Of course, we all knew that. A big endorsement has occurred after every big Hillary win. I hope, the lack of the working class vote costs the dems the election, if Hillary is not nominee.
Camp Obama losing it’s touch, they usually wait until Thursday or Friday to make what they consider big endorsement announcements to keep it in the news cycle the entire weekend.
“We will attack Obama viciously on all fair issues, whether they are national security, whether they are taxes or the economy,” promised Chris LaCivita, one of the Republican strategists behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that attacked Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry in 2004.
LaCivita added: “At the end of the day, every individual has a right to participate in the political process whether John McCain likes it or not. It’s their constitutional right.”
UPDATE: Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has apologized to WXYZ reporter Peggy Agar for calling her “sweetie” during a campaign stop Wednesday in Sterling Heights.
Obama apologized in a voicemail he left on Agar’s cell phone at 3:16 p.m:
“Hi Peggy. This is Barack Obama. I’m calling to apologize on two fronts. One was you didn’t get your question answered and I apologize. I thought that we had set up interviews with all the local stations. I guess we got it with your station but you weren’t the reporter that got the interview. And so, I broke my word. I apologize for that and I will make up for it.
“Second apology is for using the word ’sweetie.’ That’s a bad habit of mine. I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect and so I am duly chastened on that front. Feel free to call me back. I expect that my press team will be happy to try to make it up to you whenever we are in Detroit next.”
I remember when Kerry ran for president, Edwards came to Cleveland. I worked on that campaign, We sent out fliers that Edwards would be in town, Not too many people showed up, we had to walk the neighborhood to ask people to come to hear him speak. This shows how no one cares about him
When Obama says “I do it sometimes with all kinds of people”, does that mean he says it to men reporters, too?
Second apology is for using the word ’sweetie.’ That’s a bad habit of mine. I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect and so I am duly chastened on that front. Feel free to call me back. I expect that my press team will be happy to try to make it up to you whenever we are in Detroit next.”
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Late
“an inch wide and an inch deep”, Neetabug!
neetabug that’s hilarious. Did you all have to pay people to come and see him because that’s the only way I would go hear him. He is so fake!
hannity going to play the “sweetie” tape coming up next…….. saying some people say obama made a sexist remark today
we’ll let you decide ! LOL!!
I hope
is the MSM topic of conversation from here to monday over that one!
yeah edwards had campaign debt i wonder how much it was ..oh is bo gonna pay that off..thinking of that when i mentioned his name on ballots
loooser traitor
I can’t believe some of you people. After reading Admin’s post your still wringing your hands over Edward’s endorsement? Hillary doesn’t need any big endorser. She is being endorsed by the every day Americans. That’s all that matters. Now buck up! Because Hillary needs you working on her campaign pronto!
Edwards is a joke! He won’t help Obama in KY. No endorsement will. Besides, all of his voters have already been voting for Obama!
Edwards is responsible for all of this! He’s the one who first attacked Hillary at that Philadelphia debate! She was invincible before that happened! Then after she recovered and pulled that upset in New Hampshire, he dropped out before Super Tuesday! If he had remained in the race, he would have continued to siphon off votes from Obama and Hillary would have won Delaware, Conneticut, Missouri, etc!
He could have made a deal to be Attorney General or something but he was selfish believing that he could win himself!
vote on gretawire.com
“some people say obama made a sexist remark today”
Some people (Paul Begala) also thought Edwards line in his speech, saying “there is one man” on several ocassions was coded.
So the BO camp has had themselves a big day in that regard.
Everyone knows Obama is going to create a cabinet post for Edwards and maybe his title will be Secretary of Get Me Some White Votes
Senator Edwards
I was disappointed in your decision to endorse Senator Obama. After glowingly speaking highly of Senator Clinton in your speech at the Obama’s rally today not only did you commend her but you stood there when people actually “booed” her and proceeded with go ahead with endorsing Senator Obama. I didn’t understand why you didn’t stand there and say, “This booing does not help the party, it only hurts. Please respect both candidates, they both are dear friends of mine.” I am not quite sure if you have noticed a pattern or what not but at Senator Clinton’s rallies there are rarely ever any type of booing going on whenever Senator Clinton speaks of Senator Obama. You clearly seen how Senator Clinton has been able to stand by and stood for the same base that you stood out to support when you decided to run for President. I was considering either you and Senator Clinton because I felt either of you represented closely what I seek in the next President of the United States.
Now, somehow after deciding to go ahead and support Senator Obama at this point in the race, when you for a long time wanted to stay neutral. Even then, I was frustrated because I asked myself, why be neutral? Your vision for America was closely resembled to that of Senator Clinton but I respected you because you stated that you felt both were strong and still are strong candidates. With your decision to be neutral, I grew much respect for you because it is often an uncomfortable position to be in. Today, of all days, particuarly after the day that should have been Senator Clinton’s day because she won West Virginia. She won the core Democratic party base. The very base you sought to win when first running for President. You decided to go ahead and allowed Senator Obama to steal the spotlight. Typical politics I tell myself.
Now you sent this email tome requesting for donation at 9:47 pm in the evening asking for funding for College for Everyone. Which I found to be ironic because again something that Senator Hillary Clinton has sought to address. The high cost of college and the finanical mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. We’ve heard clearly what Senator Clinton plans to address in regards to this and how we can continue to encourage our young population to enter college and beyond so to have a brighter future.
Unfortunately because of your decision, I feel my money will be wisely spent elsewhere.
Thank you,
What do you think?
tcb — unfortunately everyday Americans won’t be enough due to all the inequalities Hillary has had to face — caucuses, no MI/FL, and the “loyalty vote.” I’m still peeved that my vote counts for less just because my county is less loyal to dems than an AA county. I hope they address that at the end of this month when they address MI and FL. They really should only be giving about 60% of the delegates they have been giving him so far. This loyalty thing is BS. Everyone’s vote should count for the same. When you add that to the caucuses and MI/FL, it just blows up his delegate count. That’s why she’s winning the popular vote but not the delegates. There is just too much institutional bias against her right now, and the rules need to reflect reality.
tcbequalityactions is correct! Edwards is no threat! He’s far lefty who hangs out with Hugo Chavez and that my friends I can assure you, does not play well in Middle America!
If Edwards words were coded, well it stands to reason his speech today was at least proofed with the BO camp, if not coordinated.
The only thing Edwards did for Kerry was pretty much help him lose the election.
First he did not help a bit in NC Bush won the state by over 400,000 votes and second was that boneheaded way he brought up Cheney’s daughter being gay durning the VP debate.
rjk, maybe BO said…”Hey, Sweetie, I love your hair” to Johnny and he fell for it
“Second apology is for using the word ’sweetie.’ That’s a bad habit of mine. I do it sometimes with all kinds of people.”
It is a good thing we don’t believe your “sweetie” excuse, ’cause “sweetie,” that makes you sound downright creepy!
Now, when addressing JE, I could understand.
from Crooks & Liars
Senator Barack Obama’s campaign is steering the candidate’s wealthy supporters away from independent Democratic groups, calling into question what had been expected to be the groups’ central role in this year’s Democratic offensive against Senator John McCain.
The donors have been considering entreaties from Progressive Media USA, run by conservative-journalist turned liberal media critic David Brock; from former Clinton aide John Podesta’s Fund for America; and from America Votes, a group backed by billionaire George Soros that focuses on voter mobilization, among other efforts.
But in recent days, major donors have begun to conclude that Obama is serious in trying to cut off funds to the outside groups. “It’s given donors pause,” said one prominent Democratic donor of Pritzker’s words.
But Democrats who support the work of the media 527s say Obama’s making a mistake. Progressive Media USA has aired anti-McCain television ads and developed a website intended to be a hub for negative information about McCain.
“Obama needs a baseline to the melody of his positive message,” said a Democratic strategist who backs the group’s aims…
“Sweetie. Umm… … I mean Reverend.”
tcbequalityactions, you are right, she has us, we are very dedicated to her and her platform, she doesn’t need that empty shirt, fake smile edwards!
Southern Born, thanks for the joke, it made me laugh!
We have faced much adversity.
It has only made us stronger. Made us more resolute.
Light a candle. Clear your mind. Sing.
We shall overcome, we shall overcome,
We shall overcome someday;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
We shall overcome someday.
We’re on to victory, We’re on to victory,
We’re on to victory someday;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
We’re on to victory someday.
We’ll walk hand in hand, we’ll walk hand in hand,
We’ll walk hand in hand someday;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
We’ll walk hand in hand someday.
We are not afraid, we are not afraid,
We are not afraid today;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
We are not afraid today.
The truth shall make us free, the truth shall make us free,
The truth shall make us free someday;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
The truth shall make us free someday.
We shall live in peace, we shall live in peace,
We shall live in peace someday;
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe,
We shall live in peace someday.
Oh big mistake obama! Now you just got global coverage ha ha! Man sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut but I put money on it this will be on abc and more on fox!! SWEETIE! Lets call radio stations and say how offended we are even if we really are not! lol! “my grandmother cried!
I am lighting my candle right now. Rise Hillary Rise. You shall overcome.
any thoughts on my letter to Edwards?
I guess that remark goes back to when he was a ladies man, or so I have heard he was. However, that remark can get you into trouble in today’s world.
I think if he smokes he should have to have an EKG, or something to prove he is healthy enought to run for President.
ABOUT HOW HE SUPPORTS WOMEN’S ISSUES:
We have looked at his support for women, and found it slim to none. Look at his platform, and see if you can find anything.
His put down of the women today, his put down of Senator Clinton in the past. I think you will find his support of women’s issue non existant.
Again, that is actually asking people to look at the man, and all the O people cannot get beyond the Kool aid.
tabbylady – In this internet land, I am holding your hand. We shall overcome some day.
Tcb: Thank you. A 41-pt win is quite an endorsement. She is endorsed by the people.
jr Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
neetabug that’s hilarious. Did you all have to pay people to come and see him because that’s the only way I would go hear him. He is so fake!
No but there were some telphone men working we got them to come in. They had to take down a lot of seats and close off so that it woudn’ seem so empty, We could not get anyone to come, Only people there were a lot of politicians,
justmeinmountdorafl ,
Well I say please send it and if you want post it all over kentucky to! Make flyers! Do you know what address to send it at?
Obama was a LADIES’ man??
Lets makes some damn tee shirts that say no thanks sweetie im voting for clinton! Or something like that! owh!
justmeinmountdorafl Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
any thoughts on my letter to Edwards?
I liked your letter…. i think you said it well !!
winhillary
how about this one
” no thanks sweetie i am too bitter and clinging to my guns,religion & Hillary”
winhillary – I suggest cafepress. I’d buy a couple.
I’m just a typical Bitter white person
I cling to guns/religion and HILLARY!!!
Just Me, I agree with winhillary…send it all over.
Southern Born Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Obama was a LADIES’ man??
Yes. Don’t know how true it is. His wife has had shouting matches about women, If you believe the inquirer
lol dunno about that but I did put it on TM
I sent it and removed myself from his email list
Goodnight my friends onward to a good fight for Oregon and Kentucky!
Hey, dija…love your t-shirt idea!
“Hi Peggy. This is Barack Obama.”
How about Hi, Ms. agar? Did she say he could call her peggy?
I love them all! Lets do it! We can even make flyers in our homes towns and put it places. Who lives in Kentucky anyone in Ok?
I may believe something was planted in the Enquirer to make him look like a ladies man.
Hey, didn’t he say something out of line to another female reporter a while back?
neetabug, wow and here I was thinking BO was a MAN’s man after all I’ve been hearing. Who knew!
so born ….
Blue, yes BO did say something out of line to another female this year, however, I can’t remember exactly what it was.
i too unlinked my name from loooser ed.. he is asking for money under his edwards for president website..hmmm…that isnt right…scam for another cause..shouldnt he have a college fund seperate email and not from a Presidential Website
HILLARY WILL WIN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He called a waitress sweetie somewhere!
Has anyone else wondered how come they put off Part3 the curtain until tomorrow?
I thought it was kind of funny that they would wait until tomorrow!
confloyd Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
He called a waitress sweetie somewhere!
It was either in Ohio or PA,. I remember that happening. I think, she may have been wearing a Hillary button.
Well, I just got my John Edwards email. My reply was sorry John, you pick the wrong horse in this race. I hope you have a backup plan should O not make is as I am voting for McCain. My regards to Elizabeth, and take me off your list.
To be truthful with you, I think she has a chance, as the voters are getting mad. When this goes to the convention, be prepared for a fight.
“Has anyone else wondered how come they put off Part3 the curtain until tomorrow?”
Uh…… …… YES! (I’d use a 50-foot font if I could).
But it’s the Pastor allegation today that has me intrigued.
Then I wondered with the way things are going, would anyone even care?
Then I remembered the business with Donald Young and thought YES!!!
tell me about this novak bit-he said he was leaking something on bo?
Has anyone found anything in his platform or issues that supports women yet? I would really like to find something.
The only think I remember is that he supports partial birth abortions. I think the Republicans are going to have a hayday with that.
If I have missed something, let me know.
confloyd……was that the waitress that served up his waffles???
Hey Southern, Long time no see. I been busy as heck but the events of the last few days brought me back to blog and got me mad enough to spit. Yall notice the NARAL thing and the endorsement come on the same day after our friends in West Virginia wiped the floor with BO. I wrote NARAL and i got a few more things to say to em. There has been overt sexism in this race. Has BO once spoken out about it. No, he really does not care. He does not give one iota about helping real people with real problems. Thank you West Virginia. BO you’ve motivated me to work even harder tonight. Oh yeah, and NARAL. I was at the big march on Washington…the one you helped organize a few years ago. As I recall one of the first speakers was Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. One behalf of gutless wonders everywhere, we salute you NARAL for aiding and abetting the sexism which has been rampant in the media.
It’s onto Kentucky where we’re gonna work harder than ever for the most experienced, qualified and visionary candidate in the field. I am prouder of Senator Clinton every single day.
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since we were talking tshirts again…
I decided to start a cafe press store , i will have it up in a couple days …..got to get to work on some designs
I have been out of work so have not been able to donate $$ to hillary but desperately
wanted too….
well….. I will sell t shirts to earn money to send to hillary in my name!
so those of you that have already donated the max to hillary……hope you buy a shirt or two or three
djia — are you using the bedazzler? LOL
ABC News’ Sarah Amos Reports: Former President Bill Clinton continued to make a case for seating the delegates in Florida and Michigan Wednesday, saying that it’s “shocking and embarrassing” to see the Republican party dealing with this situation in a better manner than the Democrats.
President Clinton chose to begin his speech to a crowd in Missoula, Mont. with what turned into a six-minute discussion of the status of Michigan and Florida.
“All [Hillary] has ever asked for is that everybody vote, that we count the voters that show up, this is about the people not the mechanism. If you wanna punish them fine, but don’t pretend they don’t exist. And don’t pretend it didn’t happen. And don’t pretend that she wasn’t willing to let them vote again and help them raise the money to let them vote again,” Clinton said.
President Clinton also hinted that if the races in Michigan and Florida had turned out differently, than perhaps the Democratic party would be quicker to come to a resolution.
“We are Democrats. We are supposed to be about the business of empowering,” he said. “This should be a great empowerment election, and how ironic it would be … if the thing would be decided by the most disempowering top-down, and I think mindless decision, I can recall in a month of Sundays.”
The former president was adamant in his speech, asserting that both states needed to be counted now in order for a Democrat to win them in the general election.
“I never thought it would be the Democratic party that didn’t want to count votes in Florida. I thought that was a Republican strategy,” Clinton said. “It is hard to see how we win Florida if our best argument is we’ve already ignored you once, now get in line.”
Hey, MollyJ, I was just thinking about you today and here you are. I’m so glad you are back. I missed you.
As for your post…EXACTLY…”in behalf of gutless wonders”
Greta Wire 94% I love it!
The last sexist remark was when obama walked into a women and said something like no its but my cell phone im not getting something or something do you remeber? It was sexist though!!!
A co-worker today was trying to jab me with the Edwards endorsement. “Why did Edwards drop out in the first place”, I asked. The guy replied, he was doing well at all.
Exactly, I said – and you think his endorsement is going to help?
The Kennedys, Richardson, Edwards, Kerry-Heinz, the list goes on – it will make no difference next week in Kentucky either. Only now the Breck Girl will have more egg on his face.
I am sending that Bill Clinton riff to EVERYONE I KNOW and I suggest you all do the same!!!
Yes, you are right, Winhillary. I think they were standing close together for a picture of something and BO did say something about it being his cell phone and he was not getting fresh or something like that.
But I think he called another woman (earlier) some sort of thing like Sweetie, etc.
MollyRichards, that was a FABULOUS letter! Go girl!
By the way, you wouldn’t happen to be from Texas, would you?
Remember it was a member of press or a caucus member or something and he tried to get her to wear his button it seems like ’cause the girl was a Hillary supporter. Then he said something like “would it help if I get down on my knees?” and then something like “how about a kiss?”
Creepy Letch-In-Chief?
I want to find a way to reach out to MI and FL voters who voted for Hillary. Like person to person networking. Those of us who’ve had the opportunity to stand up for Hillary and had our “votes” counted could wear one of those bracelets with the name of somebody from FL or MI who’s votes “don’t matter.” I think it’s real interestin’ that BO is running down to FL and up to MI now. This election has been among the most disenfranchising I can ever remember, at least since before the Voting Rights acts. Those damn caucuses were set up to serve BO from the beginning. I hope that everybody who saw things go down at caucuses that shouldn’t have happen report them!
I just went to VoteSmart and searched for his vote on abortion
Only one abortion issue did he support a Unintended Pregnancy Amendment, and the Amendment was rejected.
The other three issues:
Prohibiting US Assistance for Groups that Support Coercive Abortion (Adopted) he was NV (NoVote)
Prohibiting Funds for Groups that Perform Abortions (Rejected) NV
Prohibiting the Funds in S 1200 From Being Used for Abortions (Adopted) NV
He did not show up for these three issues. So exactly why did they endorse Him. Something smells.
I did a search:
April 4, 2008
jezebel.com/376174/would-you-let-this-man-call-you-sweetie
Barack Obama went on a textile factory tour in Allentown, Pennsylvania (where, more than 200 years after the Industrial Revolution, most of the low-level employees are still women). The Democratic presidential candidate shook hands and, by many accounts, nearly charmed the pants off of half the employees. One thing he also did: he called one of those female employees “sweetie.”
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Dear Mr. Edwards,
Never have I been so disappointed in a politician. You said that you represented the unheard voice of the American working and middle class. You collected money from us for your “forever” campaign until fifteen minutes before you quit. Barack Hussain Obama is an elistist, neoCon who will have our country involved in African tribal politics for an oil line before you can say hope and change in Pig Latin. It’s one thing to step aside and it’s another to roll over and play dead. I am glad that I discovered you were lacking in moral fortitude and courage before I voted for you for President rather than after the fact. Be assured that I will never vote for you in the future should you run for any political office.
tabby……. sadly i have no bedazzler
Hillbilly, My daddy was from east Texas so I got cousins crawlin’ around there that I not ever met. Thanks for the compliment. I needed a mental health break tonight from the media fascists. Folks, the only way women have made progress in this country, given things a big ass push when things needed them, was to take action that was unpopular. We have to call the game. We have to stand up for the violations of rights that have gone down in this election and that go down everyday in this country. We got to remember that it wasn’t easy for the women who went before us. It wasn’t easy for other disenfranchised groups to make progress . But it always takes overt action. I commend Hillary for her tenacity and bravery and her graciousness.
Did you catch the very tail end of Hannity & Colmes when Holmes brought up the Pastor Manning interview on Hannity’s radio program?
Then Hannity said, “Did you hear the latest thing he said?” Purposely brought up at the end, IMO in order to whet the public’s appetite.
So controversial however, so Sean planted question right at end so that they wouldn’t “have time” to explore.
Same Trumpet magazine cover also shown on Larry Sinclair website, along with other magazine cover of Obama.
In order to view all (along with Sinclair’s appeal for Hannity to contact him) google:
“Larry Sinclair Obama Drug Scandal” and you can read and see all about new Pastor Manning allegations.
Read blogger comment at bottom of Real Clear Politics front page, or may be on second page by now. Operated restaurant frequented by several “in the know” in Chicago between 2001-2003. Oprah’s show on the “down low” aired April 16, 2004.
NewMexicoFan – Operation Boardgames???? I’m Checking it out!!!
Ive never been angrier at the obama/dnc camp than today. we here have suffered many days -but this takes the cake. naral endorses-although msm wont say that many state levels wont-then edwards. my heart bleeds for hillary. she workd hard for edwards’ endorsement. tooo bad e edwards doesnt come out and back her. her heart must be hurting tonight. i will call ore and ky again tommorrow more than today.
for all these months i spend 80pct of my time working on hilary stuff. i have crohns and smetimes have to damn near crawl just to push myself to help hillary.
the bys are ganging up on her worse than ever. kennedy,edwards etc are trying to take her down. i hope i see lots of backlash tommorro when i talk to folks. on tm one hillary phoner called ore. tonight. got good response hen got a lady who was undecied. until now. the lady said she was tired of the men ganging up n hillary and will cast her vote for her.
so we have a 2 front ar tues-ore and ky. we mst blow him out of ky-and he will be there with johnny and msm. and ore-tougher but we must hold it close.
i had hoped sen byrd would back her today. clearly our nation i s corrupted. it is ill. for a abortion rights group to back obama in a primary against hillary is beyond belief. for “working class” john edwards to back obama is an afront a dn will piss the hell out of hill supporters. ky is the test-hill must crush him good. the supers are freaked by wv-so bambi picked up edwards to help him get the votes he cannot attain. im betting it wont work. if edwards cannot pull thu bambi next week its time to close this deal. its time for some folks in this party to come out for hillary. what a sick bewildering day. may hillary get this nomination or heaven help us
thanks for the shout-out admin!
I just watched Hill tonight on CNN and boy was she great. She noted that there have been contested conventions when the candidates were much further apart than they are this year! On to Denver!
We need to make damn sure that byrd endorses her tomorrow or we keep his phones ringing all day long! If does not keep his word what good is he!
WIN4HILL, That was another incident, he has done 3 now, that we know of. He really does not respect women. I wonder if his grandpa did? From what I heard gramps did not respect gramma, so what would you expect!
Wow, Obama has admitted that he’s got patronizing, elitist, and sexist tendencies:
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OBAMA APOLOGIZES FOR “SWEETIE” COMMENT
(CNN) – Barack Obama has personally apologized to a Michigan television reporter for referring to her as “sweetie” as she tried to ask a question.
The comment came earlier Wednesday when WXYZ reporter Peggy Agar asked Obama at a campaign stop, “How are you going to help the American auto workers?”
Obama told Agar to “hold on, sweetie,” and said he would address that issue with her later. Agar said she never got an answer to her question.
According to WXYZ, Obama personally left a voice message for Agar Wednesday afternoon, apologizing for both not answering the question and for calling her “sweetie.”
“That’s a bad habit of mine,” Obama said in the message. “I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect and so I am duly chastened on that front.
“Feel free to call me back. I expect that my press team will be happy to try to make it up to you whenever we are in Detroit next,” he added.
Obama also took some heat in Pennsylvania last month for referring to a factory worker as “sweetie.”
confloyd: grandpa would not even drive grandma to work. she had to take the bus to work and had to walk through a bad area.
He sure seems to hang out with boys that disrespect women, I mean look at Teddy, he is the worst! Hell, he killed one, his nephew raped one. The list goes on and on. Michael killed Martha when they were in 8th grade. It must be a Kennedy trait. I have always wanted to know what happened to Marilyn Monroe, they say Bobby was one of the last ones to see her alive. I guess I’ll never find out!
We should make a list of Obama’s “bad habits”
1) Calling women “sweetie”
2) Buying cocaine (”but not smack”)
3) Smoking
4) Whining (”can I just eat my waffle?”)
5) Losing swing states left and right
You go Berkeley! Nice to see ya. I saw part of that CNN interview, too. You know, the harder this damn race gets, the tougher, stronger and better she gets. She is so damn good, yall. I am so damn proud to stand up for her. Sometime when you need a boost, read her speech from Bejing in 1994. It is so powerful. That is one that kids should be memorizing in school, too. It is a manifesto of womens rights/human rights, and it is powerful powerful stuff. We have us such a seasoned and intelligent candidate leading us. What I love so much about her is that she sets the tone, the moral courage, the ethical tone. She walks her talk.
From Riverdaughter’s site:
[UPDATE] State NARAL affiliates react
Posted on May 14, 2008 by ronkseattle
Received within the hour, a “Very Important Message from Karen Cooper ” (Exec. Dir., NARAL Pro-Choice Washington) re this morning’s NARAL endorsement of Barack Obama:
… None of us here, myself included, knew about it until a phone call this morning from D.C., and at that point it was a done deal. To be clear, we at NARAL Pro-Choice Washington remain neutral in the race … We strongly disagree with NARAL Pro-Choice America’s decision to endorse at this time.
… To endorse Obama at this point in the race is an unconscionable slap in the face to Senator Hillary Clinton.
Furthermore, I want to make sure you know there is no transfer of funds between our affiliate and NARAL Pro-Choice America. We are separate entities.
… our Board of Directors is planning a meeting to discuss our affiliate’s next steps.
Closed with a link to NARAL Pro-Choice Washington’s press release on the subject.
Kudos, Karen! Any other blindsided affiliate sightings out there?
Birdgal, DIdn’t grandma support the little lazy too? I sure don’t want that for Hillary, if Bambi is the nominee, let him do his own D^%$ work! I think the man is lazy, how many vacations has he had during this campaign? He always whining about how tired he is. Worthless!
Curiosityhasme,
You check the wording on this story (linked at Sinclair’ site from michigan daily) about BO’s personal assistant?
Seem like they’re trying to say something between-the-lines,
or is it just me?
“A lot of people wouldn’t get in a car with Barack Obama and tease him back,” Colvin said.
The meat of Colvin’s job is in these “in-between” moments in the car on the way to the next events.
A lot of the time, Colvin and Obama just talk.
Often, Colvin said, he and the senator have heart-to-heart conversations.
And this from No More Apples:
NARAL TEXAS NOT CONSULTED ON OBAMA ENDORSEMENT
I just called the Texas chapter of NARAL, and they told me in no uncertain terms that they had NOT been consulted before the national organization decided to issue an endorsement of Obama — and they just found about it about the same time the rest of us did. They didn’t sound too pleased about it, although a spokesperson said they could not make a public statement.
Nancy Keenan is an arrogant opportunist, so she should fit nicely into the Obama camp.
From the Illinois chapter of NOW:
“As a State Senator, Barack Obama voted ‘present’ on seven abortion bills, including a ban on ‘partial birth abortion,’ two parental notification laws and three ‘born alive’ bills. In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions. When we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass. He wasn’t there for us then and we don’t expect him to be now.”
But you heard the woman. He’s got the money.
6) being out of touch with real people (argula in Iowa)
And from the NY Daily News:
NARAL Pro-Choice NY Doesn’t Follow National’s Lead
In a show of loyalty to its home state senator, Hillary Clinton, NARAL Pro-Choice NY declined to follow the lead of its national organization in endorsing Barack Obama, proclaiming it “premature” to pick a favorite in the Democratic primary contest.
In a terse statement, the NY-based abortion rights group said the decision by NARAL Pro-Choice America to back Obama was made in Washington, D.C. and “without the consultation” of state affiliates.
“NARAL Pro-Choice New York will not be issuing an endorsement at this time,” continued the statement, which isn’t attributed to anyone in particular.
“NARAL Pro-Choice New York believes that this endorsement in the Democratic primary is premature. We are fortunate to have two pro-choice candidates in Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Senator Barack Obama.”
“When a nominee is named, NARAL Pro-Choice New York will stand proudly with the pro-choice Democratic candidate in order to defeat anti-choice Republican candidate John McCain in November.”
This statement is carefully crafted to be as middle of the road as possible, and is far from the militantly pro-Clinton efforts we saw earlier in the primary season (NY NOW comes to mind, for example), but it does illustrate the quandry many New York groups and electeds are finding themselves in as her campaign appears to be on its last legs.
No here at home wants to be the first to jump ship because, after all, her second six-year Senate term is barely underway. Even if she ends her presidential bid, she’ll still be a force to be reckoned with.
ADDED: In a conference call earlier today, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said he was “surprised” by the national NARAL endorsement of Obama.
This is not “NEW POLITICS”. These are the finest endorsements money can buy.
Ladies, I guess I’m a little irritated tonight with the boys club!
Listen to this analogy: Most of us now work right along side of our husbands, correct? I for instance have a very physical job and my husband had a sit down job. You both work all week, and who really gets to rest on the weekend, =husband, right, he lays in front of the TV watching a game or something and what are we doing? we’re cooking, washing clothes, getting the kids, husband and ourselves ready for the next week. This has always pist me off. So this I could see happening to Hillary is she took the VP spot. He would be vacationing, hobnobing with the boys club and she would be working her ass off to make him look good. I hope this doesn’t happen!
confloyd
but knowing hillary……..she would scream from the WH rafters taking full credit, never allowing BO to have credit
Additional info to find:
scroll down to bottom of front page of Real Clear Politics to the Reader’s Articles
then, hit bar where states “articles with 10 or more votes”
interesting tidbits, among those:
-Obama down low submitted by mack711 May 14 3:07am – re: Cafe owner in Chicago frequented by those “in the know”
-Barack Obama’s Staff Full of the Most Extreme Leftists in the Country submitted by Dan53 May14 5:32am – re: Jennifer Mason Corespondence Coordinator – member of Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam
many others including the campaigning that is occuring in the middle east for obama at present…….
Heheh, nice one Mollyjrichards
Blue Democrat:
Yeah, interesting article and “sighting” concerning Obama and Colvin. Sweet.
RE: Denver
found rooms available at the motel 8 in colorado springs next to the air port
2 queen beds with 4 adults sharing expenses would only be $87.50 per person for four days (sun-thurs)
I really am glad he had the slip of the tongue, as the Sweetie remark has taken some of the gloss off of the endorsements he pulled out.
He really did not want that to happen.
“Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder. ” George Washington
I love this group, but you are talking like she will not get the nod. She is going into this convention BETTER than anyone in the past has.
Mentally, they are working on us. But is is we who decide whether we are going to let this garbage impact on us.
The conventions are not for parties, they are for deciding who the candidate will be.
If you and I can help her pull off coming into the convention with the majority of the votes, she is in a strong position, one none have had in the past. The Dumb Delegates (I am refusing anymore to call them Super Delegates), are going to really be placed in an interesting position, in front of the Cameras of the news media, and the crowd that assembles there.
Remember, you cannot win a fight, if you are not will to show up. Conceding means you are not willing to know if you really could have won. The brave people want to know. HILLARY PEOPLE ARE BRAVE.
curiosity,
So that phraseology is funky, right?!?!
Tell you what, and I don’t say this lightly, but this Pastor Manning stuff has the potential to be the big one.
For one, after watching his sermon video, there’s no one who can say he isn’t direct (and correct!)!
Second, it makes sme sense on the level of BO being so heartbroken over his Rev. Wright breakup. Several ‘insiders’ at the time said what an emotional thing it as for him. There’s more but I don’t want to get nuts.
I’m seeing visions of a Gennifer Flowers-like presser for BO and a National Enquirer cover (in fact one of the supermarket rags has already run such a story).
“For 12 years, I was Reverend Wright’s lover.”
Manning keeps saying at an appropriate time he’ll reveal his ‘proof’.
You ask me, appropriate would be 9am at the National Press Club, before he gets himself Young’d.
Motha Focka.
“Sweetie” is getting big local media attention here in Detroit. Just thought y’all would want to know.
Guys, whenever you see the DNC or democratic elites pissed off at Hillary, be happy and gleeful! They are pissed solely and mostly about the money that us Hillary supporters are refusing to give them due to their mess in Florida and Michigan and thank goodness we have some power, obviously, as they are so mad and incapable of raising more than 5 million so far.
We have power guys! People power! And the DNC hates us for it, yet it somehow makes me very happy
Blue, You nipping the whisky? lol
Pastor Manning needs to get himself some bodyguards stat. You know how Obama’s thugs roll….
How is his trip playing in Michigan, Jen?
Blue Dem:
Yeah, Larry Bland on Nov 17th then David Young on Dec 24th. Then another murder of gay African-American man, don’t recall name but it has been printed.
Lots of hits in the windy city. Guess I better start looking at the throw-aways in the checkout line. They usually have it first, especially when no one else will touch the story.
Still find it strange that O’Reilly made such a huge story out of Wright’s multi-millionaire mansion and $10 million line-of-credit (besides the hypocrisy) except maybe he’s hinting at pay-off or hush money?
i do think Obama could be a homo/bisexual. I know many of you think he doesn’t act gay or whatever, but most homosexual/bisexual people are the same as ordinary straight guys/girls who just happen to enjoy the same sex.
It’s entirely plausible. + the African American community statistically has one of the highest “in the closet” rates in America because of the overall communities tendency to be very negative towards anything gay or unusual.
it’s possible.
Okay, Blue, who is Donald Young…refresh my memory.
millionaire=million dollar
Southern, he was one of the people from Obama’s church who was openly gay and murdered execution style around the time of the Iowa caucus but whose case was kept hushed up by Chicago media and police.
djia, that’s a good price, I could even afford that, of coarse, no telling how much gas will be by august!
btw, while we are on the topic of homosexuality, that little boy on American idol, David A, comes off as gay to me. lol
very cutesy and feminine.
MJS, was he the choir director at BO’s church?
Larry Sinclair alleges he received calls from Donald Young several times the couple of months before he was murdered. Sinclair says Obama camp had these 4 phone numbers of his, and “somehow” Donald Young got these numbers and was contacting him to “see how much he knew.” THERE’S the link. Problem is corrupt Mayor Daley is over CHicago PD. Corruption of the highest order is now BHO gets by with everything.
HillBilly,
“Blue, You nipping the whisky?”
Not yet, but definitely by the convention
Do me a favor. If you haven’t already, check out this video (replace the .com) and just tell me if you think this man is speaking from his heart…
youtubeDOTCOM/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
As a gay guy, I just think BHO could do better than Sinclair. I don’t get it, unless the attraction was Sinclair had access to drugs. If that is it, I guess O has more of a desire for drugs than men. How presidential.
Yes, Donald Young was choir director and member for 20 years. twenty years again…..how interesting.
Exactly, NewMexicoFan. If we take this to Denver, Hillary can’t lose. Why? Because by then, the Republicans will have started to unload on Obama, and they won’t wait until after the convention to define him. Obama’s favorables/unfavorables have been trending in ALL the wrong directions for the last 2 months, and by the time the convention rolls around, the writing will be on the wall: he is unelectable.
hallow Says:
May 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
hallow u back –great
i was missing u
This piece in the Washington Post is misguided, in that it assumes Hillary is done, but its main point — that the mainstream media and the DNC have ignored the rampant misogyny targeted towards Hillary — is compelling:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
i ate triple wwhopper ,,cheesecake
and i am so full ,,so i am not so mad at NARLA AND EDWARDS..
we should use this anger not to let us down or not to benefit mccain
but only and only to benefit hillary
so lets put it together
There was a suspicious “suicide” of some guy tied to Rezko, too.
John Stroger’s godson Orlando Jones:
One of Cook County’s top political insiders was found dead on a southwestern Michigan beach this week from a self-inflicted gunshot wound — two days after the Chicago FBI attempted to interview him about an undisclosed matter, authorities said Thursday.
Orlando Jones — a 52-year-old godson of ex-County Board President John Stroger, former top Stroger aide and married father of two sons — had lunched with a lawyer Tuesday before disappearing that evening. His body was found about 6:30 p.m. Wednesday at the bottom of a set of steps leading to Gowdy Shores beach, a short drive from a New Buffalo, Mich., casino Jones had frequented.
Orlando Jones, godson and aide to former Cook County President John Stroger, was found dead yesterday at Gowdy Shores in Union Pier, Mich.
Berrien County law enforcement officials said a handgun was found with Jones, who had a single gunshot wound in his head.
Undersheriff Chuck Heit said there was nothing that would lead him to believe “it was anything other than suicide.”
Authorities recovered notes from Jones’ South Loop home, including one referencing how unforgiving the news media tend to be, a law-enforcement source said.
Jones, who most recently worked as a lobbyist and consultant, last week was a subject of news reports in Las Vegas that he was under criminal investigation for wrongdoing regarding public hospital contracts there. ALERT!!! OPERATION BOARD GAMES!!!
Jones told the Chicago Sun-Times last week that he did nothing wrong. He met with attorney and friend Robert Stephenson at a West Dundee restaurant Tuesday to discuss a half-inch stack of documents Stephenson planned to send to the Clark County, Nev., prosecutor.
”I was relatively confident that once the D.A. looked at these documents, this thing would have been over with respect to Orlando,” Stephenson said.
Jones was upbeat, Stephenson said. “A good part of the lunch was about the future,” he explained. “I didn’t sleep last night because I cannot explain what happened.”
The discovery of Jones’ body came just two days after FBI agents approached Jones, FBI spokesman Frank Bochte said. Jones “cordially declined” to speak with Chicago agents. The FBI wouldn’t discuss details of the potential interview, citing an ongoing probe.
Stephenson said he was aware the FBI had approached Jones, but he said agents had made contact with him last week, not Monday. Stephenson said the FBI was assisting Las Vegas authorities in their investigation.
Kathleen Suey, a Las Vegas deputy police chief, said her investigators did not ask the FBI to approach Jones. However, she did not rule out the FBI visit was related to the Las Vegas case: “I cannot comment on what they were there for.”
Besides the Las Vegas matter, Jones had been interviewed by federal authorities some time ago about a separate, government-related deal highlighted in a Sun-Times story in Thursday’s editions. That deal — which involved an annual fee paid to Jones by an investment firm that does business with a state government pension fund — had allowed Jones to be paid six-figure sums annually for a job he did in 2004. MORE BOARD GAMES!!
Authorities, Stephenson said, wanted to know if now-indicted Highland Park businessman Stuart Levine played any role in helping Jones land the deal. Levine has been indicted along with Wilmette businessman Tony Rezko in a kickback scheme to defraud Illinois taxpayers using fees like the one Jones got.
Jones told the feds Levine played no role in Jones landing the fee, Stephenson said. He added that Jones was not asked about Rezko.
Like Jones, Rezko is close to the Stroger family, and Rezko and Jones have been business partners, records show.
Jones was in County Board President Todd H. Stroger’s office as recently as last week. Todd Stroger was elected to the post held by his father, John, last year after the elder Stroger suffered a debilitating stroke.
“The Stroger family is saddened by the passing of Orlando Jones, godson to former Cook County Board President John Stroger and a longtime family friend,” Todd Stroger said in a statement. “His passing is an untimely and unfortunate loss for those who knew and loved him, and he will be missed. Our prayers go out to his wife, Cerrelda, and his two sons.”
is obama running some kinda religious ad in ky
to win voters
Just so you don’t get the wrong idea, the above happened last year.
wagner1jc:
Story sounds like it was a two-time encounter back in 1999. His pics looked younger, of course. Sinclair says the limo driver is the proof, but since he hasn’t produced him or given correct name at this point, many doubt story. Sinclair made a video in past few days 9on his website) in the event he meets with untimely death. He must be getting lots of death threats. His attorney is the same as DC Madam’s – which was probably a murder, made to look like suicide.
9=(
wagner1jc, I am with you on that Sinclair is kinda rough around the edges, BO is high class, but you know that old country and western song don’t ya?” The girls all get prettier at closin time”. Maybe he had already had a couple a snorts and wasn’t being picky! LOL!!!
wagner, sinclair met him years ago……sinclair has posted a pic of what he looked like back in the 90’s
he was younger and wasn’t bad looking at all.
Berkeley Vox
Exactly. They have wanted this to stop all along. Think about that. Had this stopped after IOWA, there is a whole lot about BO we would not have gotten to know. And let’s face it, the WV people said WE DON’T LIKE IT. (He visited there once, what an elitists, Hillary was all over NC which could not have been friendly territory).
The GE is composed of all the voters of this country, not Donna and Howard, and Ted, and Edward, and Judas, and Al, and Jimmy. All of these has beens and had their time and failed. I guess failure is a criteria to be a commentator and an endorser.
We need to give her the opportunity to take it to the Convention, and then get there in tents, cars, crappy hotel rooms, what ever, and make sure we look them in the Eye.
Hillary, will be with us all the way, if we are with her.
curiosity,
Then you’d think he’d change attorneys, at least for superstition’s sake.
You would think he wouldn’t think he’d be caught in a church picture anywhere near pulpit after Wright, but then he is so accustomed to BAMBOOZLING and HOODWINKING everyone – he;s real cocky now that the Wright issue is “behind” him. No pun intended.
Hopefully, KY will see right through this, and be even more disgusted by this new show of arrogance, especially since JE has been dispatched to sell BHO to the working class. HOW insulting is this to the people of KY? What do they think they are? Moonshiners from Deliverance on the lam from the ‘revenuers’?
I thought Young was only 24 yrs old, or something close to that?
How could he have been a member for 20 years?
sorry about the first run-on sentence and typos. better hit the sack. Later
BTW, Steve Malzburg played audio of BO’s NEW pastor today,
and it was more bombastic shit!
Cursing Moses & the Bible and I forget who else,
the 3 wise men maybe
Blue Dem:
Young was 47 I believe. Close to the same age as BHO. Hmmm…………..
Ha ha, you’re on a roll tonight, Blue!
NewMexicoFan Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 12:34 am
We need to give her the opportunity to take it to the Convention, and then get there in tents, cars, crappy hotel rooms, what ever, and make sure we look them in the Eye.
after all women have been doing this with ease for a very long time….forever in fact !
Hillary, will be with us all the way, if we are with her.
*****************
absolutely agree with most of your post…..but…… I have to say…..that in order to be there in denver in august plans will need to be made ASAP….and we are fully capable of multi tasking!
great idea, lets look em in the eye, especially ole teddy!
after KY next week……we should send uncle teddy a bottle of scotch to drown his sorrows in
When we had the last Democratic president, the Republicans hired full time researchers and $70 million dollar Ken Starr investigation to try to find ANYTHING with which to impeach him.
Would they be that “eager” with President BO? He certainly seems to have serous skeletons that have not been vetted and actually almost zero to none until recently. In that case, maybe Hillary should accept the VP. That would be the ONLY reason I could think of for her to do that.
NO! Hillary is still going to win this thing. As has been stated, maybe she knows what’s out there and is coming. I just hope it hits very soon.
Kentucky…..need to dispatch a little bluegrass Bill Monroe or Ricky Scaggs (republican I know). How about a little Foggy Mountain Breakdown………let’s see…who’s Jethro to Hillary’s Daisy Mae?
djia,
” we should send uncle teddy a bottle of scotch to drown his sorrows”
Just get him a Cadillac, he’ll take care of the drowning.
Scaggs=Skaggs
Me just say, if this BO innuendo ever proved true, how classyis Hillary?
All she’s ever said is he hasn’t been vetted.
That’d be somethin’….
Lame Teddy joke by me. Admin, can we yank it?
LOL…… you forget we are all just under educated aka “illiterate” “poor” “bitter” “typical white” people/women
we cant afford a cadillac LOL
HillBillyLover asked how Obama’s Michigan trip has been playing around here…
It made the news and all that, and in some instances the reporters made it sound as if Obama is definitely the Dem nominee and that Hillary has no chance. But aside from the “sweetie” episode, the media reports I’ve seen made his visit seem rather bland. I smiled when Channel 7 (the station where Ms. Peggy Agar is employed) showed a big, enthusiastic Obama crowd at some rally but then pointed out that it was an invitation-only event. There was also an article in the Business section of the Detroit Free Press about how the auto companies are not happy with some of the remarks Obama has made about the auto industry.
Overall, I would say if Obama gets the Dem nomination McCain will definitely win Michigan. Obama will get the AA vote and probably the elite liberal vote in Ann Arbor and Lansing, but pretty much everything else will go Republican.
If Hillary is the nominee, she can win Michigan. The economically-based strategy that she used in OH and PA will work for her here. I think her biggest challenge will be getting out the AA vote, but she should be OK there if she gets certain local politicians on her side.
Guys who will along with me email supers tomorrow? Please everyone respond, I will make a list of who is ready to help and we will go the delegate site that shows who has not endorsed and get the emails. We need to contact all of them and let me say there is a lot! SO PLEASE WHO WILL HELP ME THIS WEEK?
What about the vote issue? Has there been much press about him holding up a revote or taking his name off?
I will winhillary.
The vote issue has been pretty much ignored by the local media. It’s like nothing ever happened. The media in Detroit would rather focus on the Kwame Kilpatrick scandal. (I notice Obama didn’t go anywhere near Kilpatrick while he was in this state!)
WaPo;
Hillraisers Still ‘In it to Win’
By Matthew Mosk
About 50 top fundraisers for Sen. Hillary Clinton packed into the living room of the candidate’s Washington home this afternoon to express their continued belief in the candidate and her mission, several of those who attended said today.
This was not an intervention aimed at persuading her to make a graceful exit, said fundraising co-chair Hassan Nemazee. “The message was, we’re in it to the end, we’re in it to win, and we still believe we can win.”
Nemazee, a New York investment banker, said Clinton came across as surprisingly energetic and “quite determined” and, he said, she told the group she was “not willing to stop fighting.”
Those in the room were “not delusional,” said another of Clinton’s “Hillraisers,” who have each raised at least $100,000 for her bid. “We all recognize this is an uphill battle.”
Nemazee agreed, saying the Clinton faithful understand that there remains only “a narrow path” to the nomination, “but there is a path.” He said the group committed to redouble efforts to persuade superdelegates to wait for the remaining contests to unfold before picking their candidate.
Nemazee did not rule out the possibility that Sen. Clinton would loan more of her own money to the campaign, though he said the subject did not come up this afternoon.
OOH I just saw my first Hillary commercial here in Oregon!!! It is GOOD!
want late night fun-gohere-
http://www.blogforchoice.com/archives/2008/05/naral-prochoice-6.html
winhillary
yep i am still here but heading off to bed in a minute
just wanted to respond to your request/challenge
and you can count me in tomorrow!!
Sweet dreams everyone!!
just remember! last night Hillary put lipstick on the pig! and she will put the eye shadow on next tuesday!
admin, you are wonderful. Thank you.
I have an e-mail from John Edwards, asking for a donation for his project. How did I get on his list? Maybe, it was when, I e-mailed him, asking him to support Hillary. I will, certainly unsubscribe. How disgusting. He stabs Hillary, and has the nerve to ask for a donation. The world is topsy-turvy.
birdgal
I replied to Edwards email telling him to have Obama fund his program since I am sure Obama paid off his campaign debts.
Does anyone have edwards email. I mean this guy and his wife were for universal health care and now he wants everyone to go to college. Food, shelter and safety comes before college. We need to take care of the sick first, the college! These elite’s are so out of touch, john apparently has never been without healthcare!
yes
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/14/so-much-for-the-reality-based-community/#more-2517
Ha ha texan4hillary, did you see that comment at noquarter about Edwards and Obama in KY?
“Gives whole new meaning to “KY”" LMTWAO!!
yep. loved going to naral blog-looks like the org will die.
Ok, I just thought of a little joke…it is for you San Francisco people:
“Did you hear Barack Obama said he was misquoted about meeting with Castro unconditionally?”
No?
Turns out what he really said was “I’ll meet you on the Castro unconditionally”.
Ahh, now it makes more sense!
on=in
just took a trip to mccain’s ebsite and facebook for kicks. as expected the sites arent dominated by repubs-but by clinton dems! holy smokes. i hope we go to denver to the mat. its brokered anyway
Did you see Obama’s in-flight interview about the Edwards endorsement?
SNAKES ON A PLANE!
Here’s John Edwards’ email address, for those who would like to tell him something.
Woops, the email address didnt’ print. It is
info at johnedwards dot com
info@johnedwards.com
Ok I know this is off topic ladies but I want you to know that im all about safety and of course this election, but this is something that I just found online and I really think we should give this to all the women we love it is a pepper spray ring! Can you believe it! Ok I will give you the website here. Please know that I am aware this is off topic but if you could help save a life with some one we love and ourselves this is worth it to me to tell all women on this blog, at least check it out.
http://www.safetyprotectionfirst.com/product/STUNRING
A neat quick forum, mostly short light posts, recommended by a poster at hillaryclintonforum.net
h t t p : / / http://www.oregonlive.com/forums/undecidedvoters/index.ssf
Nemazee agreed, saying the Clinton faithful understand that there remains only “a narrow path” to the nomination, “but there is a path.”
That path is the popular vote. And this depends on the GOTV. Donate and call.
I will not go to the McCain sites unless I am forced to do so, that is if Hillary does not get the nomination or drops out (which ever comes first), and not one minute sooner. Just the very act of doing so would signal to me in a very subtle way, that I have lost faith in our cause. I haven’t yet. That is exactly what the media wants me to do, to psychologically begin to bail out on Hilary. I am too stubborn to be fooled by a bunch of losers that could not get real jobs.
Please join in me in staying strong. We have been through it all together, for all these last months. We are almost there. This is a contest of wills. Let’s make it to the finish line.
Thanks
Just sent Judas EDwards a response to his use of my mail address to solicit funds for OBAMA.
I must say that I feel that the curtain is coming down on BHO and his trail of job seekers that are endorsing him,most of whom have severe character and credibility problems and are straw clutching for their next 15 minutes of fame and fortune. Buyers Remorse will set in for them very shortly. Notice how the MSM and their talking heads are touting his win over Hillary,but are also adding a new condition.Namely “He will be our next President,UNLESS SOMETHING BAD TURNS UP ABOUT HIM ”
The MSM is holding back because Hillary is still her and will go on for as long as it takes.TheY all are aware of the REZKO trial findings and the Evelyn Pringle documentatios of Barack Hussein Obama’s deep involvement in gutter politics and fraud and the Jeramiah Wright plan for his future in the black movement.
Take heart all you Hillary supporters.It is all going to hit the fan for that group of SD’s MSM and Talking heads on Radio and TV.
I have never in my 90 yrs have watched and seen such a brave and dedicated person against such a crush of political asassins and the “MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX” Hillary you are the National Treasure and we must defend these forces of Evil that are taking over our great nation.Fight on all and support her.Our future depends on her.
“IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ‘
by a proud ABM90
Just got back from West Virginia. In the afternoon Hillary toured a flower market, thanked her supporters and looked radiant. I had a chance to see her again and reassure her of our continuiing support and commitment. Also spoke to Terry McAliffe and I am confident there is a path to victory here. Her victory speech was absolutely inspiring and the support that West Virginia showed was amazing. Onward.
I have heard from a few of my very reliable sources as to what Hillarys game plan actually is.
She knew exactly what was going to go down a long time ago from the DNC with Obama and has a game plan of her own from way back.
1 : Wait until all the Judases have been smoked out, get them out in the open. She’s now done that.
2 : Weaken your opponent one day at a time, she’s done that.
3 : Get the nuclear weapon ready to be sent at the the most effective point or else its a waste, that day will be very soon.
Don’t think the most experienced politicians ever do not know how to handle this, they are waiting to do the cobra strike and then force the party to submit. Hillary would not still be in there if she had no plan as to whats going to happen.
Moonpluto,
Thanks for the peptalk.
I’ve been trying to figure out why I sometimes get so depressed by this election and I just realized the ‘plot’ is very similar to an (unpublished) novel I wrote. i did tons of research into the Salem witch trials and what HRC is going through reminds me of that. what do you think? here’s the synopsis.
THE FIREKEEPER
The Firekeeper begins with the Inquisition in late seventeenth century Germany and ends in Ferndale, Massachusetts, a New England town reeling from the aftermath of the Salem Witchcraft Trials. The heroine, Norma Winston, is the designated heiress to a long tradition of occult knowledge. The Firekeeper chronicles her transformation from a helpless child unable to rescue her mother from being burned at the stake into a warrior who reclaims the heritage she’s long denied, attacks the negative association between women and witchcraft and champions the cause of the persecuted.
Its classic political spy warfare.
You make sure the spies lurking in the shadows come out into the open before you launch the whole stealth attack because then you don’t just take down the enemy but the circle of spies in one foul swoop.
Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson and Pelosi has basically put their careers on the line here with Obama. Once the bombshell comes down, then Hillary can take them all out at the same time, not just Obama.
She will own them.
moonpluto,
‘You make sure the spies lurking in the shadows come out into the open before you launch the whole stealth attack because then you don’t just take down the enemy but the circle of spies in one foul swoop.’
Can you recommend a book that discusses these strategies? i know i could google but I’d rather have recommendations so i don’t waste time on BS.
moononpluto, I don’t think the Hillary camp anticipated that there were so many Judases in her plan A. She is running Plan B if there is one.
meiyingsu,
What’s a good book about these strategies?
basil9, I don’t know. I don’t believe Hillary has this kind of strategy.
wbboei: Thank you, that was wonderful.
We must continue the fight.
Iwas out most of last night and stayed away from the tv but all of my worse sentiments about Edwards have been confirmed.
He is an opportunistic person and clearly his rhetoric about wanting UHC for all people was a lie as Hillary Clinton is the only canidate who has true UHC.
Hillary did all the leg work, tours, position papers on poverty and Obama spat in his face and who did Edwards support- what a joke!
I am waiting until 9am to call NARAL to give them a piece of my mind. I emailed them yesterday and they can forget about getting any kind of donation from me.
Women hating on another sucessful woman and they didn’t even have the decency to consult their chapters.
I am off to donate to Hill again and call KY tomorrow.
Guys this was planned. I always thought that Edwards leaned to Obama especially as he was all to willing to join with Bambi to gang up on Hillary during the debates and to pile on when she teared up in NH.
I saw him suddenly come back into the limelight doing all the tv shows and I knew that it was a done deal. He was in Bambi’s pocket to be trotten out like the token mail to counter his ass whipping from WV.
Don’t Forget and get the word out.
The EVELYN article Curtain Time For BArack Obama Part II will be out today thur 5/15/09.It keeps piling up behind the Fan and FaX is ready to throw the switch when they think Obama is ready to be fully exposed. Pres. Bush ,in a speech in Israel,called him an appeaser.McCain gave his AMEN and Hillary is just sittiing back and enjoying the Curtain coming down slowly and effectively on BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. She is one Sharp and lovely brave woman.MY prayers for her,are being heard.
Another Beautiful Morning to all
ABM90
I can’t help but think that Hillary is armed and ready for the DNC meeting at the end of May. I’m sure she has had a bevy of brilliant lawyers working on her defense. Brazille has said the meeting will be open. I think that will be the worst decision they have ever made. The manipulation and sexism against Hillary will be front and center. What she will have in her corner? Americans far and wide, faith, and democracy.
Correction: I meant to say Part III of Curtain Time by Evelyn Pringle will be released today Thur 5/15.
Sorry about that.It’s the one finger typing and I have large hands
ABM90
I just checked my email and I’m livid! I received an email from John Edwards at 9:46.25pm re his College Fund mission.
The problem is that I have never signed up for Edwards or Obama’s site or anything remotely related to them.
I was on the DNC’s mailing list but I asked them to take me off which it appeared as if that was done.
So why then was my email addy given to Obama who clearly gave it to Edwards. This is a violation of my privacy and my wishes.
I responded to Edwards by telling him that I thought that this was a quid pro quo endorsement and he to me is a faker, a sell out who traded his name for a mailing list, 5mins in the spotlight and a promised cabinet position.
My opinion of John Edwards just sank lower and I thought that it couldn’t reach much lower than it already was.
Taylor, if you are looking for a story, this is it. Quid pro quo baby!
Howard Dean will get a phone call from me today. Does anyone have the DNC’s phone#? I suggest that others call as well. What a violation of trust as I clearly asked that my name be removed from the DNC mailings.
ANBM,
I hope you’re right the curtain is coming down. I have to confess I feel a bit demoralized today.
Jan,
In 21st century Amercia, sexism and misogny are ok, just as they were in 17th century Salem, Massachusetts, in Medieval Europe, in world history, but pointing out the deliberate use and distrotion of the ‘race card’ isn’t.
Like Ercia jong said in a NYT op ed piece, Racism trumps sexism every time and gender trumps all else.
Yeah, (geeklove) we’ve come a long way, baby.
I am watching CNN, and from what I can gather, President Bush made a speech in Isral and took on Obama in major way (CNN interpertation). Obama getting a taste of the Republican and Rove Machine!!
“I hope you’re right the curtain is coming down. I have to confess I feel a bit demoralized today.”
Cheer up Basil. It is always darkest before the dawn. Moon is right. Of course she has a plan C. Otherwise she would not be spinning her wheels and working down her bank account. Hang in there. Kind of like riding a rollercoaster. Up one day, down the next, up again, etc. and so forth. Just fasten your seatbelt and close your eyes. It will all be over soon.
I thought someone would post this video but it hasn’t shown up yet so here it is.
More proof of Waffles sexism and disregard for women.
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/13/what-is-it-they-see-in-him/
paddy4hill,
‘just fasten your seatbelt and close your eyes. It will all be over soon.’
isn’t that what rapists say to their victims? Or what lots of women do during marital duties?
Sorry pad, i am in one foul mood today. I know you didn’t mean it that way but I’m just feeling so friggin’ vicariously exploited.
I think the Clintons know, that no one is your friend in politics. If there is a bomb shell maybe it will drop a few days before the DNC meeting at the end of May
I just want something to wipe that smug expression off cruella’s mug.
basil, really gross. I hope they delete your comments before somebody who has been sexually assaulted sees them. They may not be as understanding of your bad mood as we your friends are.
Cheer up. We are going to win this one. Politics is dirty business. Now we understand why this was a “man’s business” for so long. And why it is important to bring more women in to balance some of the foulness. We are just starting on this long journey. It is never easy being the first. There may be some consolation in knowing we are making American history.
paddy4Hill
“Politics is dirty business. Now we understand why this was a “man’s business” for so long.”
How far back are you going? Eleanor Roosevelt thought it was a nasty bz too — till she got into it and found she loved it! Like Hill, she was a real scrapper!
Basil9
I just view the video, and had to share it with people. I found it disturbing and revealing. There is something terrible wrong here.
Thank you for revealing this.
Bush suggests Obama wants ‘appeasement’ of terrorists
JERUSALEM (CNN) – In a particularly sharp blast from halfway around the world, President Bush suggested Thursday that Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats are in favor of “appeasement” of terrorists in the same way U.S. leaders appeased Nazis in the run-up to World War II.
“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” said Bush, in what White House aides privately acknowledged was a reference to calls by Obama and other Democrats for the U.S. president to sit down for talks with leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
“We have heard this foolish delusion before,” Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. “As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/15/bush-suggests-obama-wants-appeasement-of-terrorists/?iref=werecommend
paddy,
Sorry. I know i probably stepped over the line. But combined with Waffles comments, from the ‘You’re likeable enough, Hilary,’ to the one-finger salute, to the Senate snub, to the treatment of her by his supporters, which he does nothing to control, to his ’sweetie’ comment and the journalists gone wild video, not to mention his stunning ignorance, saying Tuesday that Iraqi interpreters need to be redeployed to afghnaistan where they need Arabic interpreters even though they don’t speak Arabic there . . . it just feels like one half of the country is being gangbanged by the other. Guess that’s too graphic?
basil…….I think that is the best description of what is going on and who obama is
and share your thoughts on it!
Only in Chicago……
Only in Chicago can they come up with a scheme to have a married couple represent 2 different districts in the US Congress. What do they plan on doing each live 6 months in the other’s district??
Exclusive: Sandi Jackson might run for Congress too
Michael Sneed: Sneed hears ailing U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, who’s battling cancer, is being urged to resign so a successor would be in place before the November election. The stunner: Sneed hears rumbles Ald. Sandi Jackson is on the short list and could make history by becoming, along with her husband — U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. — the first couple in Illinois to represent separate districts.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/951270,CST-NWS-SNEED15.article
basil9
Your feeling are complelely my own. I have felt that we have been witnessing the beating of a women, and the world is turning its back. It is like the policemen who comes to the door, and considers the blood he sees on the women who answers it as an internal matter. I want to do something, but I don’t know what. I don’t understand why women have not been more supportive. Instead they act like sexual objects that in a world that those of us over 50 have fought so hard for them not to become.
Basil: I have had the same thoughts. Gang banged by the other side and the media. It is disgusting. What they are doing, I hope they pay for in November, because:
“Disrespecting the nearly 17 million who have supported Clinton is politically unwise, but turning them into “the enemy” is insane. Last week’s enemy was working-class white people. The Democrats can win without a majority of white voters — as Obama strategists undiplomatically note — but they can’t win without a strong showing among them.”
snip
Obama can’t beat John McCain without large chunks of Clinton ’s core constituency: women, Hispanics and the white working class. Dumping on their candidate is one step removed from dumping on them — and some of the Obama people don’t even bother with that step. Rove must be enjoying the show.
seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2004411946_harrop14.html
basil9, Posted on mydd
The whole idea that the DNC could force us to accept Michelle as the “first lady” is just disgusting to me. My feelings have nothing to do with race. No I take that back. It has everything to do with her pulling the race card every time she opens her mouth. It has everything to do with her insults and feeling of superiority when it comes to the Clintons. I just see red when I think of the ramifications.
So taking himself off the ballot in Michigan because he knew he couldn’t win…is that the same as shunning West Virginia for the same reason? Is this a pattern to manipulate the final results in his favor?
clintondem,
I don’t know what you mean.
Could you be more specific or provide a link? I don’t know much about mydd.
basil9, I posted the Obama video.
mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/101425/513
I do not share Hannity’s conservative position and I am angered when he critisizes Hillary unfairly but he has every right to an opinion.At least he is not as extreme as the disgraceful bunch al MSNBC and CNN.As the old saying goes” They are so hateful,they could crawl under a snake;s belly with a high hat on”.When Hillary is elected and settles into that chair in the oval office,public outrage will again be heard and the good ol boys will be swept out with the didgusting media characters that have poisoned the lives and dreams of so many dedicated and caring political choices that we have made. It will soon be time to hold our noses and walk past this corrupt and vicious group of charlatans.
By ABM90 Keep on Hillary we love you
basil9 said:
thought someone would post this video but it hasn’t shown up yet so here it is.
More proof of Waffles sexism and disregard for women.
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/13/what-is-it-they-see-in-him/
I posted the video.
clinton dem,
I get it.
I gotta say i don’t know how to navigate around mydd. Can’t even figure out how to post on TM.
McCain just finished a strong speech.
clinton dem,
how would i have found your link if you hadn’t posted it?
I mean, where would i have searched for your name and the post?
I contributed to the “Bombshell” rumor by reporting Robert Novak’s claim to direct knowledge of it’s existence. I regret that since it probably gives some people false hope. Fortunately a few others on here have wisely dismissed it as nothing more than a rumor. Novak also admits he doesn’t know what it is all about.
If Hillary’s campaign had such a bombshell I feel sure they would have already used it. What would be the purpose of waiting? The suggestion that they are looking for the “right way to release it” sounds ludicrous to me. That campaign is loaded with political expertise. They could quickly find a way to get the information out if they had it.
I don’t mind hoping for it, but I won’t believe it until I see it. I refuse to get my hopes built up too high just so I can suffer a big let down. I believe Hillary has enough going for her already. She can win this nomination, and I still believe she will do it.
It’s okay, Sherm Kader. I know I forgive you. You’re only human. We want to believe.
Sherm,
I agree. If HRC had something it would have already come out.
But she can still win.
Help help help!
I’m having a fight with someone over AIM! Right now!
They told me to think of three differences between Hillary Clinton’s environmental plan and BHO’s!
HELP! I need three!! Help!
I feel really stupid. I’m blanking. I don’t want to lose this argument, against a godd*mn ‘bot who used to be my friend.
But I don’t want to go to BHO’s website either, to bump up his hits.
That’s it! If this person is going to be like this, I’m AIM blocking them! F*ck.
I need coffee. I knew the answer…but I didn’t remember the numbers. This sucks. I hate feeling uninformed. I hate it. And I really care about environmental issues too. Today, I’m going to inform myself.
newmexicofan, clintondem,
Know what the worse thing about that clip is? The unabashed unashamed approval and participation by the female journalists.
And THIS is who’s reporting the news to us?
PADDY4HILL!!!!!!!
Hope I didn’t insult you. I KNOW you’re my buddy and i really treasure that.
I’m not so sure that if Hillary had something very damaging that she would use it. If it is of a personal nature regarding Obama, then I don’t think she would play that card. If has to do with his professional ability to be president, i.e. beliefs that are contrary to U.S. safety, then maybe she would.
I’m probably in the minority here.
Women have borne 4,000 years of male contempt. Why do we go on taking it?
It is time to give to men the same treatment they have been giving us .
I want to tell the next generation of women this:
Do not ever trust men, any men, until they prove they are mature enough to stand side by side with you – that means you must learn to live alone and be strong.
When you meet a bully-boy, take every advantage you can pry out of them and then stick it to them when you can.
Teach your daughters to know the enemy.
Pamper your little boys. Let them know they are sweet and cute and lovable and almost as admirable as women.
Educate your daughters in the arts and sciences and business, economics and politics, but encourage your sons to think of nothing but sports.
Show your daughters that men are useful as muscle and as sex objects, but are never to be taken seriously.
Most of all teach your daughters to respect and assist women who respect women
Unless we do this, unless we raise a few generations of women to take hold of the world, we are doomed to be forever the second-rate gender, mocked, scorned and hated. The pursuit of equality has failed The time has come to create daughters who will know they are superior to men and sons who will know they are inferior to women. This is a real war, and it’s time to behave accordingly.
That’s what the msm and this primary election have taught me.
I am angry and I’m never going to stop being angry. Never.
Sherm
The only bombshell I would like to see is Fitzgerald opening a sealed indictment with Obama’s name on it after Rezko is convicted next week. Fitzgerald does like going up the food chain.
Does anybody remember the website where you get to see the contrast of Hillary and BHO and McCain’s positions on different issues? I know I’m going to get an e-mail from this loser, and I like having a cheatsheet. I know I saw one once, but I don’t remember where it was.
Not that it’s all about issues, at all. It’s how you approach the issues, your leadership, your assertiveship, your attitude, AND NOT BEING A HUGE LIAR AND CULT LEADER LIKE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. BHO is NO option for me, no matter what his “positions” are, because he has zero experience and is an overall lying waffle.
GOOD NEWS!!!!
well i have spent the morning touring my JRE supporter blogs (these are his hardest core supporters from his website blog during the campaign that have supported him for years!!)
and the word is ……they are NOT falling for OBAMA even if JRE endorsed.
I am seeing a lot of “how could he endorse obama” posts. They are definitely bewildered and upset
and are even questioning edwards authenticity since he said 4 days ago he wouldn’t endorse and then turns around
and endorses obama……and they now think that even though John edwards has said he was vying for VP that they
think anything is possible , since now they see him for the pol that he is.
oh and wright,ayers his sexism “boys club” and attitude etc has played a huge part in why they won’t support obama
basil9,
I posted the link in my earlier post: Here it is:
mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/101425/513
rjk,
Now that would be sweet!!!!!!!
Hallow, can’t help you on that. I’m practically braindead today.
lil ole grape
I have one daughter and 4 sons…….and believe me i am doing my best to teach them all a different way
BO has no positions he didn’t xeroxed
Bless you, Djia
Elizabeth Edwards did her best to make a man of John, but she came into his life too late to fill up the emptiness.
lil ole grape.
i agree. problem is there’s an awful lot “Women who don’t support other women.” As Thatcher says, there’s a special place in he11 for them.
Another great leader said this;
Ghandi:
First they ignore you
then they ridicule you
then they attack you
And then you win.
Besides, Admin said it best. So, forget about him. He’s a cardboard character — that’s why he loses.
Sean Penn in cannes
I don’t have a candidate I’m supporting and I’m certainly interested and excited by the hope that Barack Obama is inspiring,” he said, but went on to accuse him of a “phenomenally inhuman and unconstitutional” voting record
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/1955538/Sean-Penn-endorses-Barack-Obama-at-Cannes-Film-Festival-opening.html
Get out your ouija board and tell old Ghandi that we’ve had the ignore, the ridicule, the attack for 4000 years — ask him when do we win?
clintondem,
here’s a link to Malkin’s (ugh) comments.
michellemalkin.com/2008/05/09/breaking-news-video-journalists-ogle-obama/
Horse face kerry on MSNBC lying about obambi’s statements about Iran. What a loser??
Ghandi was a man, when he spoke people listened, when he was kind and gentle it was so unmale it was a revelation — no-one knew how to cope with that kind of man.
lil ole grape!
Hahahahahahaha!
NOW!!!!!!!!
We win NOW!!!!!!! Go Hillary!!!!!!!!
Amen! Yea, and AMEN!
djia
I was kind of wondering how it would fall out. Edwards had a person in his staff that I heard would go ballistic if he endorsed Hillary. But when I have heard Edward speak, I saw a lot of Hillary issues and ideas.
As we all know, when they endorse, the followers do not follow. I am also wondering what will happen when Kerry, and Kennedy are up for re-election. The areas they have been sent into, have not followed. The latest organization to betray might find themselves with a lot of funding cancellations. We were suppose to have an event here, and I see people cancelling.
This reminds me of the Union in Nevada, which put great pressure on its people to follow. These were people who were new citizens and they understood a Democracy and they stood up for it. They were threatened with shift changes and retaliation. As I remember, they did not vote. I think they showed great courage.
We have seen this guts and courage all along the road. In Iowa, I watch a room where O people walked over and tried to steal H people. They stood strong in front of their neighbors and friends.
Can you imagine what it took to stand in line in Philadelphia?
We and the People must stand strong now for Senator Clinton. There might not be a scandal out there, but I know there are deals and other relationship. The people of WV had heard enough. I think the people in KY have also.
You can dismiss the win (tough when it is 41%), but you cannot deny the numbers.
By the way, do you think he calls all those female reporters Sweetie on the Plane????
perhaps from hence forth bambi/waffles should be referred to as sweetie
The Waffles strategy;
Take on Bush and McCain.
blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-takes-iss.
Problem is, Bush didn’t mention Waffles.
More brainwashing.
Hallow, go to Hillary’s site. Look at her positions, and HAVE the other guy counter YOU, to tell YOU, how waffles positions differ from hers. Put him on the defensive.
Henry, I like that. I also think that SD are not DD for Dumb Delegates. I guess that is harsh, but that is how they are behaving.
Hallow, waffles voted for the Bush-Cheney energy policy, Hillary did not. It is a big give away to the oil interests. Look at Hillary’s site for information, under issues.
NMF
I think that person your referring to was Dave “mudcat” sauders
here’s what he had to say recently
The AP reports:(writers Nedra Pickler and Stephen Ohlemacher in Washington, Gary D. Robertson in Raleigh, N.C., contributed…)
A person close to Edwards, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he [Edwards] wanted to get involved now to begin unifying the party. Obama also signed on to Edwards’ anti-poverty initiative, which he launched Tuesday with the goal of reducing poverty in the United States by half within 10 years.
David “Mudcat” Saunders, a chief adviser for Edwards on rural affairs during his presidential campaign, said the timing of the endorsement couldn’t be better given Obama’s resounding loss in West Virginia on Tuesday.
“For Barack Obama, I think he ought to kiss Johnny Edwards on the lips to kill this 41-point loss,” he added. “The story is not going to be the 41-point loss. It’s going to be Edwards’ endorsement.”
Maybe.
But there are other overt and covert considerations to evaluate… even though most of the big news media has decided today to frame this news as being about Obama only, rather than seeing that it may also massively stimulate his opponent to more determined than ever. Among those considerations to weigh might be these:
If the endorsement is meant to show solidarity by one party member toward one of the candidates, that is a fait acoompli. Unifying the party at this point is likely premature. Unifying isnt done by one person saying ‘unify now.’ It is a far more many layered process that includes more meeting and greeting with many groups and people. That would be later. Not now.
Also, Edwards may be looking to see if there might be a place as VP should Obama be the Democratic candidate. Edwards was John Kerry’s VP pick in the 2004 election, which was lost to George Bush and Dick Cheney.
Certainly Edwards holds to liberal ideals, and/ but endorsements dont mean what they once did. Many ho-hum over endorsements and go ahead and vote as they saw, see, and still see fit. John Edwards can endorse Obama or the moon, and it wont change the mind of those with dedicated circuitry otherwise. Not Dems, not Repubs, not Indies.
BUT:
–Obama has a total of 1,887 delegates, needing only 139 delegates short of the 2,026 required to ‘winner take all.’
–Clinton has 1,718 delegates, according to the latest tally by AP, 308 short of the 2,026 required for “winner take all.”
AND:
this is the crucial part:
Edwards has 19 pledged delegates he won in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. According to AP, most of those delegates have already been selected, meaning they are technically free to support whomever they choose at the party’s national convention, regardless of Edwards’ endorsement.
THAT, I think, is the meat of this news, as well as its possible momentum.
And though most voters with their own ideas about who they’ll vote for, may not care who Edwards endorses… you-know-who is surely listening and strategizing about those ‘freed up’ superdelegate votes….
It may be a show-down at the OK corral at the Democratic Convention in Denver, after all.
As I wrote at TMV yesterday, contenders who are given a win by default are one kind of winner. And, winners who take it to the absolute lung-busting last moment, are an entirely different kind of winner altogether.
What will come now in terms of each candidate’s strategies, is anyone’s guess.
themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19627/edwards-speaks-but-who-listens-edwards-endorses-obama/
better than sweetie how bout sweet cheeks as he took every opportunity in the reporters gone wild clip to show it off. yuck.
henry,
hahahaha. ’sweetie.’ ‘:wisted:
newmexicofan,
great analogy.
I’m outta here for now. Hope t hear great news when i get back. Sorry again if I offended anyone or if i was a wet-blanket this morning.
LITTLE sweetie?
sweetmeat.
lil ole grape
I like Little Sweetie LS. Maybe we should change Dumb Delegate DD to Little Sweetie Delegates LSD, now that works for me.
The LSDs have voted to support the LS.
I have to admit watching the reporters gone wild video made me very sad. How many REAL journalists would give thier eye teeth to follow a candidate for the POTUS on the campaign trail. I read quite a bit of male bashing here today and I was fortunate to have two wonderful parents but I as a man felt uncomfortable reading. I don’t think anyone here wants to alienate the male vote but if I were an oblhblah supporter trying to convince a male friend leaning hillary such statements taken out of context might just do the trick.
don’t mean to preach just saying this an open forum and you don’t know who is reading or how it will later be portayed.
I apologize for being so depressed last night….I rarely drink, but got toasted I was so pissed off about that weasel Edwards and how smug sat there while all along he would not let the Michigan votes count. Just got in from court(hungover) and wonder if there is any good news?
jbstonesfan
hair of the dog
Henry, I did not mean to offend you. However, O knows what is going on in that airplane, and he did nothing to dignify the atmosphere, and in fact condoned it.
This was not meant against men, but the environment that O has created in his campaign.
They can always twist your words.
This is kind of unrelated, but did you hear the awful speech Bush made this morning to a group for the 60th anniversary of the founding of Israel? He said that talking with Iran was as foolish as talking to Hitler after he invaded Poland.
Hillary said she would be heavily in favor of fighting Iran if Iran moved against Israel, but Iran has not done that. I don’t think Hillary would be in favor of invoking Hitler. That was very wrong of Bush. I hope Hillary comes out against Bush’s statements today. It would be a good political move.
I liked Bush’s speech as it put Obama on the spot..everyone knoes he is weak on defense and Hillary very capable on these issues.
Henry
your absolutely right…… I think as a woman, we (women) have lived in a world that “equality” has been to some extent non existent. It is especially non existant in this primary election. when the sexism is so blatant and ugly as the BO camp/DNC has been towards hillary we (women) take on all the feelings that have come before us by our female predecessors and of our own
experiences….it is often very over whelming to say the least.
we obviously tend to forget at times about those we do not see or hear from on this board when we release our emotions
and it is good to have a voice of reason to pull us back to the reality that this forum is a much bigger place than
it often appears.
thank you!
Misogyny I Won’t Miss
By Marie Cocco
Thursday, May 15, 2008
The Washington Post
As the Democratic nomination contest slouches toward a close, it’s time to take stock of what I will not miss.
I will not miss seeing advertisements for T-shirts that bear the slogan “Bros before Hos.” The shirts depict Barack Obama (the Bro) and Hillary Clinton (the Ho) and are widely sold on the Internet.
I will not miss walking past airport concessions selling the Hillary Nutcracker, a device in which a pantsuit-clad Clinton doll opens her legs to reveal stainless-steel thighs that, well, bust nuts. I won’t miss television and newspaper stories that make light of the novelty item.
I won’t miss episodes like the one in which liberal radio personality Randi Rhodes called Clinton a “big [expletive] whore” and said the same about former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Rhodes was appearing at an event sponsored by a San Francisco radio station, before an audience of appreciative Obama supporters — one of whom had promoted the evening on the presumptive Democratic nominee’s official campaign Web site.
I won’t miss Citizens United Not Timid (no acronym, please), an anti-Clinton group founded by Republican guru Roger Stone.
Political discourse will at last be free of jokes like this one, told last week by magician Penn Jillette on MSNBC: “Obama did great in February, and that’s because that was Black History Month. And now Hillary’s doing much better ’cause it’s White Bitch Month, right?” Co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski rebuked Jillette.
I won’t miss political commentators (including National Public Radio political editor Ken Rudin and Andrew Sullivan, the columnist and blogger) who compare Clinton to the Glenn Close character in the movie “Fatal Attraction.” In the iconic 1987 film, Close played an independent New York woman who has an affair with a married man played by Michael Douglas. When the liaison ends, the jilted woman becomes a deranged, knife-wielding stalker who terrorizes the man’s blissful suburban family. Message: Psychopathic home-wrecker, begone.
The airwaves will at last be free of comments that liken Clinton to a “she-devil” (Chris Matthews on MSNBC, who helpfully supplied an on-screen mock-up of Clinton sprouting horns). Or those who offer that she’s “looking like everyone’s first wife standing outside a probate court” (Mike Barnicle, also on MSNBC).
But perhaps it is not wives who are so very problematic. Maybe it’s mothers. Because, after all, Clinton is more like “a scolding mother, talking down to a child” (Jack Cafferty on CNN).
When all other images fail, there is one other I will not miss. That is, the down-to-the-basics, simplest one: “White women are a problem, that’s — you know, we all live with that” (William Kristol of Fox News).
I won’t miss reading another treatise by a man or woman, of the left or right, who says that sexism has had not even a teeny-weeny bit of influence on the course of the Democratic campaign. To hint that sexism might possibly have had a minimal role is to play that risible “gender card.”
Most of all, I will not miss the silence.
I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven’t publicly uttered a word of outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.
Would the silence prevail if Obama’s likeness were put on a tap-dancing doll that was sold at airports? Would the media figures who dole out precious face time to these politicians be such pals if they’d compared Obama with a character in a blaxploitation film? And how would crude references to Obama’s sex organs play?
There are many reasons Clinton is losing the nomination contest, some having to do with her strategic mistakes, others with the groundswell for “change.” But for all Clinton’s political blemishes, the darker stain that has been exposed is the hatred of women that is accepted as a part of our culture.
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Marie Cocco’s e-mail address is mariecocco@washpost.com
Let’s thank her for this article.
newmex
I took no offense. The individuals lamenting the horrific treatment of women I agree with, however, I don’t know that bashing men serves the greater purpose. And the women on the plane had a minimum of BA’s and I would assume from decent schools and are acting like fans of a boy band. I say find out who was on that plane and lets send them a few choice emails.
it would not be a good move for hillary to acknowledge anything bush said today
apparently……bush made no mention of any names as to who he was referring to
but BO claimed it and spoke out against bush…..romney was just on fox? cant remember now i have been flipping channels
and he was basically pointing that out that bush never said a bo name and he was laughing saying “funny how bo assumed bush was talking about him” they will be hitting BO on this now
Let him own it!!!
Oops, I didn’t read the end of that article. The rest of it is great. Don’t read the last paragraph (she is very wrong about that)!!
dija
thankyou
but I must confess I have been just as guilty in referring to nancy pelosi with a derogative term far worse than anyone said today. I was angry and didn’t think, vented. And when called on it I was furious.
I just hope I didn’t upset anyone today.
That is a fantastic article and we should e-mail her our support!!!
jbstonesfan Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I liked Bush’s speech as it put Obama on the spot..everyone knoes he is weak on defense and Hillary very capable on these issues.
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What jbstonefan said
djia. I agree, that this is a thorny issued, and BO should show his expertise or lack there of in handing this.
Henry, yes I agree, we need to know the names of these women and call them out on this. Before I retired in 00, I noticed this female behavior in the Work Place, and found it disturbing.
Just one last comment. Senator Clinton has the endoresement of the largest group of Military Leaders I have ever seen, to include former CofS. (I think those are 5 stars). I thought if we would see a prejudice in this campaign it might come from that group. But the military environment beginning with Wesley Clark have really risen in my estimations, and I have gain a new found respect for them.
As Wesley Clark said in our Office in IOWA, she will make a great Commander In Chief, and she has this area down cold.
Grape, all:
“This is a real war, and it’s time to behave accordingly.”
Clearly the battle lines are drawn. The NARAL misstep was really the last straw. Women are women’s own worst enemy in this battle, working from within the ranks for self-assured subjugation. yes, there is “a special place in hell” reserved for women who don’t support other women, all things being equal – or in Hillary’s case, superior.
I’m going to raise the subject again: Is it time to resurrect the “National Woman’s Party?” I’d like to see BO or any other candidate try to get elected without the support of real women.
henry
I doubt you offended… I certainly wasn’t
it’s good to have reminders that its much more than just those of us that post here
I know this has been said here but I want to make sure everyone fully understands it and reads the situation correctly:
We are winning, and the Obama/MSM/DNC elite is panicking. Edwards, NARAL, etc are a desperate ploy to try to prevent WV II from happening in KY. And, based on all the history of this contest, they are likely to backfire. The voters — especially the white working class voters which Obama can’t win and which Sammy Powers was “obsessed” about — do NOT react well to being bullied, told how to vote or being called racist.
What this means is that this series of moves by Bambi’s Brigade is likely to inflict a worse loss on him in KY than what was already going to happen. Good. When Judas is out discussing how JRE will help with blue collar voters in KY, the smell of fear is firmly in the air.
HRC is playing all this perfectly. If the DNC wants to help her get rid of some campaign debt while concurrently shooting itself in the foot with JRE and NARAL, then Hillary is only too happy to help.
I’m working on a piece on these developments right now. The most important part of all of this, however, for we HRC backers is to not get mad or rattled but instead to see this for what it is: A sign that the “Hell” I recently spoke of being unleashed on BHO has in fact begun to be rolled out. He and the Bambi Brigade are flatlining and they are making increasingly wild and desperate attempts to alter where this race is heading. And they’re failing, badly.
As Admin and Berkely Vox said, the key things are these: Donate, phone bank in OR and KY like crazy and don’t fall for the feints of the Bambi Corps. Allow them to continue to call female journalists “sweetie” while we continue to bust our butts helping to make sure that the next West Virginia is in the wings.
We are winning now. We are up in the popular vote, we just saw Bambi have his worst performance of the season after he announced plans for the OR celebration party and our opponent is in the process of committing hari kari. All we need to do is to continue running our race and in a few weeks from now we are going to be exactly where we want to be.
The Bambi Brigade is now in quicksand: The more they try to influence the votes of the states to come, the more they are dooming The Fraudulent One to enormous defeats. As an HRC backer I welcome the Edwards Endorsement because it is both one less quiver in their arrow now and it shows that West Virginia was far more damaging than the Bambi Crew wanted to let on.
Our adversary is in full retreat. Commanders, you know what to do.
Paul F. Villarreal
VillarrealSports.com
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Yes, Henry, Djia, of course, you are absolutely right. We must remember that someone may be watching and so we must say only what appeals to others. We must take care never to offend and never to say what we really feel or reveal how life is affecting us. … ho hum.
Informed in Illinois
You have raised something that has been on my mind lately. If I leave the Democratic party, where do I go. More women are registered to vote than any other segment. I felt that the Dems represented my issues, but this does not only seem to be true, but their lack of stopping the sexual attacks in my estimation condons what goes on.
I will have little choice in November. So I call myself Independant. But I don’t view that as a solution.
I meant untrue, sorry.
God I pray that snl picks up on the reporters gone wild video. It is so ripe with potential. If geeklove is reading why not flip the tables on him paint him in a video as a bimbo. the plane bit intersperced with 57 + states, the exaggerated death toll from tornadoe last year. I am sure there are many more faux pas. sorry to use the word bimbo but i don’t thing english has a male equilelent for the term
oh wait yes it does — obama.
Sorry, the emails aren’t going through on this site. For a list or to send a list you can’t post…email me at shenangn@aol.com
Thanks!
I look at it like this .. I know what I’ll get with McCain. Waffles and crew are unknown and at this point I want to prepare rather than be blindsided. No vote for the “party line” from me. Not if Waffles and Crew are anyway on the ballot.
NewMexicofan,
That wasn’t a bad idea about anticipating Gore/Carter endorsements.
Hil might want to just mention it & take the sting out. “I’d expect before it’s all over AG & JC might endorse.
I’ll stick w/the endorsements of the american people.”
Just a thought.
Shenanigans, thanks! and now to work on the letters l
…Henry, I love ya but the misogny thing causes great pain — as great as racism when it hits personally.
LISTEN LOUD AND CLEAR
Hill is still in it to WIN it!!
As Maggie Williams says best, We will NOT be distracted!
Now everyone!
PLEASE MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY today, tomorrow and this weekend!!!
Oregon is already voting with mail-in ballots! Our time is NOW so please call!
When calling folks in Oregon, keep this helpful information handy:
LGN or Bush Cheney Energy Bill that Obama voted for and Hillary opposed. LGN is Liquid Natural Gas pipeline that will run along our coastline and private farmlands (eminent domain). The state has no say because it’s a federal bill. Hillary will give back the state the right to make its own decisions.
Let’s keep the momentum going… PLEASE MAKE CALLS TO OREGON AND KENTUCKY and fight for HILL!!
Our best defense is a large vote turnout for her! We can help do it!
Informed in Illinois
you raise a good question…..and i would like to answer it with this…..
where do the men in the democratic party who have also been disenfranchised by the DNC go??
wouldn’t a “national womens party” be considered sexist? the very thing we are outraged at here on this forum?
I think we would be a much larger and stronger third party if we included ALL that are fed up with the DNC
lil o grape
My bad I simply meant that there are a lot of men supporting and working very hard for Hillary and that the reporters on that plane were college educated women.
Everyone, please ask yourself:
“What am I going to do for Hillary today?”
It can be donating your lunch money and bringing a bag lunch instead. It can be making a few calls to KY and OR. It can be RSVPing to a local party by a Hillary supporter for watching Hillary’s victory speech in KY.
Or, it could be lighting a candle. Or closing your eyes and thinking positive thoughts.
Giving off positive energy.
Everyone doing a little bit can lead to a great lot being done. We don’t have to set the standards so high that people are afraid to contribute.
Just, focus your energy.
Focus.
universal
You are so very very wise!
I agree. Thank you, Paul. We love your contributions here.
There seems to be a total news blackout on Hillary today.
Blue Democrat, I have found if something shocking is going to happen, it is better anticipated, and announced. Then you can say, we knew it all along, and expected it. Don’t give them the shock factor.
I agree about the third party not being sexists. But other than Independent, what would you call it. I am not extremely conservative, and not extremely liberal. I support women’s leadership, but I also support men’s leadership.
So what do you call the middle of the road?
clintondem99 – Well, it’s early in the day yet.
I still REALLY liked the Marie Cocco article I posted a little higher up the thread. It was in the Washington Post today.
djia, New Mex:
You raise good points – where do the men go? Raised in a GOP household, later driven to embrace progressive values, I have always considered myself an Independent. And, I am married to a fabulous feminist man who is a loyal Dem – he has never considered voting GOP until now. And, most independent women like me have enthusiastically supported Democrats for decades. But, clearly, both parties in our two-party are engineered to take women for granted. You have only to look at the numbers in congress or in most state legislatures to see how poorly women are represented. The GOP considers women chattel; the Dems establishment feel the same way, but puts out a phoney line that most women accept at face value. I also think that women’s organizations have played a role in this situation; they have subjugated issues most important to ALL women – equality, education, family – in favor of wedge issues that attract only the left – choice, GLBT issues.
Perhaps a party name that puts women first would attract righteous men who also have had enough – those with daughters – just as the suffragette movement did.
Just my 2 cents. Hugs to all.
What , if anything, can be done to change the minds of the SD’s this late in the game? Remember that creepy nerd college kid who Chelsea had lunch with and Bill called, yet he went for waffles??? WTF is wrong with the young people today???
PS – Universal, Hallow: You are so right. Rest of the day: focus on helping Hillary (in between getting things done here at work).
Hillary will be 44.
Has Obama ever spoken out against the half of his heritage with a culture that hides women in burkas? Women had so few rights that even Barack Hussein Obama Senior had multiple wives at the same time.
new mex
what about something focusing on the centrist platform. I am a 41 year old man pro-choice, equal consideration for civil unions, anti death penalty( unless of course you hurt someone I care about, hypocrasy- I know) , gun control and blah blah blah, were it that i felt useless espoused any of those beliefs I might have considered voting for him. However, I feel that what has happenned is that many people in the democratic party saw SENATOR CLINTON walking into nomination and as the presidency was ripe for the picking opted to create a product and not a candidate and they assume they will take over the reigns. To them i say hell no.
jbstonesfan said:
What , if anything, can be done to change the minds of the SD’s this late in the game? Remember that creepy nerd college kid who Chelsea had lunch with and Bill called, yet he went for waffles??? WTF is wrong with the young people today???
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I don’t know, JB, but bemoaning it on a blog isn’t doing a damn thing. Maybe hearing from their constituent would help? You know, the people who voted them into the office or can vote them out, too?
Kentucky Demographics Favor Hillary:
suntimes.com/news/elections/949290,ken051408.article
Here you go jbstonesfan, write letters to the editors in Kentucky….these voters are due up next:
Action Alert! LETTERS TO THE EDITORS – KENTUCKY
This week our goal is to get Letters to each of the Editors at the following Kentucky newspapers.
The theme this week is: Why Hillary Clinton is the strongest at the top of the ticket for Democrats.
It is important that Hillary Clinton supporters offer the newspapers a view of why our candidate is the best person for the job. Not every letter will get published; read here on some tips to increasing your chances of getting your letter published. Read other Rapid Responders’ submittals to newspapers here.
You can find key talking points here. Remember to be effective, use the talking points as a starting point and add your personal story behind it. Your personal story and connection to why you are supporting Senator Clinton are more effective than stats and position papers.
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Talking Point –
* As President, Hillary will take on the insurance, oil, credit card and student loan companies. Hillary will provide quality health care, create clean energy jobs, help families get out of debt and make college affordable.
A possible Letter to the Editor -
* As President, Hillary will take on the insurance, oil, credit card and student loan companies. Hillary will provide quality health care, create clean energy jobs, help families get out of debt and make college affordable. In my family, these are real issues that affect us everyday. I have XX kids in college and I don’t want them burdened after finishing a degree with re-paying outrageously high interest college student loans. I want them to be able to join the workforce and contribute to society just as I did when I finished college. We need a President who is looking after the future of this country by helping the next generation of its workers. Hillary Clinton is that President.
Here are the newspapers that we will outreach to this week:
Newspaper
Submit To:
Daily Independent (Ashland) (KY)
By Email: letters@dailyindependent.com
The Kentucky Standard (KY)
By Email: ltolliver@kystandard.com
Bowling Green Daily News (KY)
Online form click here
Meade County Messenger (KY)
By Email: messenger@bbtel.com
Central Kentucky News Journal (KY)
By Email: editor@cknj.com
Kentucky Post (KY)
Online form click here
The Advocate-Messenger (KY)
By Email: letters@amnews.com
Georgetown News-Graphic (KY)
Online form click here
Glasgow Daily Times (KY)
By Email: jbrown@glasgowdailytimes.com
The Harlan Daily Enterprise (KY)
Online form click here
Courier & Press (KY)
By Email: letters@evansville.net
The Gleaner (KY)
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Kentucky New Era (KY)
Online form click here
The Oldham Era (KY)
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The Anderson News (KY)
By Email: news@theandersonnews.com
Lebanon Enterprise (KY)
By Email: editor@lebanonenterprise.com
Grayson County News-Gazette (KY)
Online form click here
Lexington Herald-Leader (KY)
Online form click here
The Sentinel-Echo (KY)
By Email: aaltizer@sentinel-echo.com
The Big Sandy News (KY)
By Email: editor@bigsandynews.com
Louisville Eccentric Observer (KY)
By Email: leo@leoweekly.com
Kentucky Weekly Transcript (KY)
Online form click here
Louisville Courier-Journal (KY)
Online form click here
The Messenger (KY)
By Email: tclinton@the-messenger.com
The Morehead News (KY)
By Email: dbrown@themoreheadnews.com
Murray Ledger & Times (KY)
By Email: editor@murrayledger.com
The Paintsville Herald (KY)
By Email: news@paintsvilleherald.com
Floyd County Times (KY)
Online form click here
The News Democrat Leader (KY)
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Commonwealth Journal (KY)
By Email: kshmidheiser@somerset-kentucky.com
The Winchester Sun (KY)
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JanH – Thanks for the article. I like that. Clinton country.
hallow,
I read that article. It is really a sad state of affairs. There are lots of angry Hillary supporters. If BO is the nominee I am sure he would lose big in the GE. If 20% of Hillary supporters do not vote for him Obambi would be a goner.
clintondem99 – Completely true. Obama’s chances of winning in PA, WV, KY are nil. The states Obama won were not swing states. I am starting to think that this whole nomination process does not tie at all to the GE…
has the ADA endorsed?
A childs oral health has been unequivacally linked to life time health. Not to mention that people without teeth have a hard time finding employment. I believe hills plan is comprehensive correct me if i am wrong.
I have sent Marie Cocco a e-mail praising her for expressing in writing the anger we all feel.
i meant life long health
henry – I don’t know if the ADA endorsed. I’ll look it up.
NMFan,
“So what do you call the middle of the road?”
The Third Way.
ClintonDem,
The Hill blackout began the night of the WV primary.
The narrative shifted right to ,”What’s wrong with BO”, which we thought was good (it was) but its real intent was to speak of BO, and only BO, whenever and where ever possible the remainder of the way – while at the same time lessening overall campaign airtime and bringing more McCain coverage into the mix.
Transitional phase for them, or so they hope.
CNN.com has a Hillary event in Bath SD.
from hallow: If 20% of Hillary supporters do not vote for him Obambi would be a goner.
I slightly disagree, we just need 5% of Hillary’s supporters to sit it out and 5% to crossover to McCain and Obama would be a goner.
hallow and Informed in Illinois
I think I tried to blog yesterday on the fact that we do not know where he stands on Women’s issues. When the nafa group endorsed him, I checked his record on abortion, 3 did not votes, and 1 yes for an amendment that did not pass.
Men who have pet names for women are trying to put them down in my estimations, so I would again like to challenge someone to tell me what has been published that shows his stand on women’s issues.
As far as the Centrists are concerned, there are a lot of things there I believe in. I have often felt that I was not as liberal as some parts of the Democratic party, but I put up with it as I thought they supported my issues. When they don’t it is time to leave.
States he will lose
OH, PA, WV, FL
probably many more but I am not familiar with the breakdowns of the others but is there any way he can win without these states?
In fact even if just 10% of Hillary supporters sit it out and not even cross over, Obama would still be a goner.
rickya Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
from hallow: If 20% of Hillary supporters do not vote for him Obambi would be a goner.
I slightly disagree, we just need 5% of Hillary’s supporters to sit it out and 5% to crossover to McCain and Obama would be a goner.
A couple of weeks ago, I heard Karl Rove say that if the GOP received 20 % of Hillary’s supporters, they could win the GE.
I don’t think the democratic elite care, if they win or lose the GE. This is about taking the Clintons out.
“I don’t think the democratic elite care, if they win or lose the GE. This is about taking the Clintons out.”
I wish it weren’t true. Bill Clinton shocked the Democratic Party back to life. The DNC has forgotten how much they owe him and Hillary.
Djia, Hallow –
Thank you very much.
We’re all on the same page here. I’m thankful that I can contribute and that we have places like Big Pink at which to speak the truth about what’s going on and where we can rally real Dems and work to get things done. If we can pull out OR, the whole nomination process is going to be a free-for-all.
The Elitist Triad know this, and it is why they are doing everything they think possible to jury-rig the next few weeks.
Our task is to prevent that from happening. The voters will do the rest. And if GodBrazila and her motley crew is stupid enough to try to kneecap FL and MI, then they will have doomed Bambi even worse in November if the elites chose to nominate him against the majority will of their registered constituents.
In other words, the Titanic is in full ’sink’ mode now. Don’t miss the chance to pour your own bucketfull of water on its doomed deck.
LOVED the broadside by Bush against Bambi in Israel. I’m listening to Rush right now and the Bambi Corps is
FREAKING THE F*CK OUT over it. Yes!!!
I never realized just how pathetic Haughty John Kerry is. My goodness he’s a loser. Good thing he married rich.
My site gets all these hits from these little Massachusetts resort communities: Martha’s Vineyard, Nantucket, Cape Cod, etc. I’m sure Kerry, Chappy Ted and the rest of the Boston Brahman set doesn’t care for the analysis of them and their elitist friends which Big Pink, VillarrealSports.com, etc. are now offering up as the Massachusetts Posse tries to line up behind Harvard Boy.
Here’s a tip for Sir Swiftboat, Ter-craze-a, Fat Lion and all rest of the members of the family who is scared to death that the Clintons are going to eclipse their bogus Camelot legacy:
Get over yourselves. All the rest of us did a long time ago. We like you fine, but what we don’t like is you suckling this loser sweetie Obama at your misguided teat. We know you hate the Clintons because they did something you can’t — win the White House — but it’s time to get past your narrow interests and look out for the good of the party. If you do that, your legacy will be in much better shape.
I just chuckled because a female caller to Rush just called Jaime Carter “the idiot peanut farmer.” After his propping-up BaDumbo, I can’t say that I disagree with that assessment.
Paul F. Villarreal
VillarrealSports.com
Birdgal
I agree I believe this has nothing to do with what is best for the country but rather how do we get rid of the Clintons. If I was sitting in a room and someone asked me how do we take down the first woman with a shot at the whitehouse I would have selected someone akin to Obama, but I probably would have looked into his past.
Here is a MUST-READ article by a black writer who is backing HRC. Rush is reading this article right now and it is CRUSHING of Bambi. Check it out. Please, Admin, write something about this/including this:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=331c77bb-9591-422c-aa2b-11a741c6ebb9
YEAH baby!
The writer’s name is Cinque Henderson.
DAMN, this guy is good.
Paul F. Villarreal
henry, I would love to see the blessed one lose MA. IMHO BO is going to lose traditional swing states FL,OH,MO,MI. McCain is a lot more popular with Latinos so he might win CO and NM. That would be nice kick on Judas’s butt.
Did anyone see Hill’s interview with Brian Williams? Has it even aired? She said that she finishs what she starts and that she’ll continue till all the votes are counted and the delegates seated in FL and Mi ..
Some are saying this is her way of starting an out for June 3..
I think if we got Cinque and Rev. Manning together for an Obama riff duet, Obama could be laughed out of the country.
Ha ha ha.
Paul F. Villarreal
VillarrealSports.com
Hillary had the largest % of votes per capita in my district in Palm Beach County….We Lieberman supporting McCain, he will get an even higher % of the Jewish vote down here which will hurt him. Still, I am disgusted having to talk about beating BO, when our lady should be the one…this is a nightmare….
Here’s a good article:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0508/croberts.php3
henry,
Exactly! I don’t for a minute think that the DNC and Obama groupies thought that he couldn’t win. What a shock to all of them that he has so many dirty secrets. If their intent was to stop Hillary in their tracks, well it sure didn’t work like they planned.
Instead they have come across as a bunch of thugs and bullies who cry if things don’t go their way, who try to slip everything negative about their wonderkind under the rug, and who have made a joke of their own mandate, i.e. democracy. Corruption is rife.
I am 100% for Hillary winning. If by some godforsaken reason she is denied the nomination, I will just sit back and let the Republicans go after this pretender to the throne.
are there any more endorsements? We need them so to distract the EDwards matter
Okay so he was tired and forgot how many states–please I want my president to be able to answer that very simple question at any time any place. Yeah he was run down. i think an ad from a 527 using the 3 am call asking him how many states are in the union would be very effective.
Cokie Roberts was very good on ABC …also a cancer survivor. The party is so afraid they will lose the AA vote they have kow towed to Sharpton/Jackson and Obama himself. Does anyone really think a majority of AA are going republican??? Yet, just like in the 60’s the dixiecrats all became republicans and now many of us moderate dems will become Independents or certainly sit out this election………We dems always know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Informed: Right on!
Hallow: You are so correct about the teeth thing. Periodontal disease is a gateway for far more serious body illnesses and shortened life span, as well as drastically reduced quality of life.
Can anybody tell me who has the best OR phonebanking info? It’s time for me to make some calls.
dyn.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/index.cfm/category/HillaryClinton
Clinton backer backlash
By Ben Smith 12:12 PM
Politico.com
My colleague Beth Frerking reports on something we’re likely to hear a lot more about in coming days: Grumblings from the almost-half of the party, disproportionately women, whose candidate is losing.
An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.
Led by Boomer-aged women, the group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, is holding a press conference in Columbus at noon to release this statement.
Organizers Cynthia Ruccia, 55, and Jamie Dixey, 57, both from the Columbus area, say they’re coordinating women, men, minorities, union members and others in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan – all important swing states next November – to impress upon Democratic party leaders what they think has been outright discrimination – and not of the racial kind.
“We have been vigilant against expressions of racism, and we are thrilled that the society has advanced that way” in accepting Obama as a serious candidate,” Ruccia said. “But it’s been open season on women, and we feel we need to stand up and make a statement about that, because it’s wrong.”
With growing calls for Clinton to leave the race, she said, women feel like “we’re being told to sit down, shut up, and get with the program.”
Hard to know what to make of any given group, but the sentiment is clealry out there, and putting the party back together will be Obama’s, and Clinton’s, challenge.
Oh, and they’re doing O’Reilly tonight, of course.
New diary up guys.
And it is Mad!!! Edwards gets his rightful skewering.
Please head on over to mydd when you getg a chance
give it a read, comment and rec if you would
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/125945/518
hallow,
for environmental differences, try grist.com
btw, when obama supporters ask you to name things, turn it around and ask them what they think. the trick to winning an arguement is to ask questions and put the other person on the spot. the questioner looks smarter because he/she’s asking the question, while the person answering has to scramble for the right answer. the best thing is, the questioner just have to approve or disapprove the person’s answer. it is an easy way to ride on someone and be superior and degrade the other.
it is the oldest trick of bad bosses.
Great read!!!!
Ben Smith: You’re wrong. It’s not half the party, it’s MORE than half the party. HRC leads among registered Dem voters, has for some time, and will when all is said and done.
Yeesh. Get your facts straight kid.
I think I’ll have to go let Ben know that on his blog.
Hillary on CNN.COm campaign event in Bath, SD
Hey, lin, what’s up? Hope all is well for you and your mom.
Paul
A new loser has chimed in on Bush’s BaBambi broadside: Biden.
It’s the outrage of the also-rans!
Ba ha ha ha!
Paul F. Villarreal
An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.
IT’S ABOUT TIME!!!!
but……this really needs to be nation wide not just these few swing states….. how could we organize such an effort?
it needs to be broad casted loud and clear that its in every state not just swing states.
What is funny is that I think the DNC has presumed that women and gay men will follow blindly because we are older and fear a reversal of roe v wade or the texas case. wake up morons we worked damned hard for many years so that those that followed us had a chance. But we are and never have been victims and if you slap us in the face we are collectively gonna hit ya right back.
justmeinmountdorafl Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
are there any more endorsements? We need them so to distract the EDwards matter
THERE WILL BE NO BIG ENDORSEMENTS. Hillary will have to win with her voters. The establishment is busy crowning Obama.
would anyone know how to contact this group in Ohio?
Universal Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
A new loser has chimed in on Bush’s BaBambi broadside: Biden.
It’s the outrage of the also-rans!
Ba ha ha ha!
Paul F. Villarreal
What did he say?
Thank you for everything, that you do for Hillary.
MJ
Sad but true
here are our clues as to how to contact
Ben Smith wrote: reported My colleague Beth Frerking, Organizers Cynthia Ruccia, 55, and Jamie Dixey, 57, both from the Columbus area,
If she had anyone really big, they would have endorsed by now…what about Richard Rubin who helped make the 90’s economy great..that would be a nice one as the economy is always a big issue.
What will happen if he gets half of the delegates from florida and michigan will that make him the nominee?
I remember last week that her campaign said she’s start a GE campaign as soon as the primaries are over. She would be taking her case to the remaining superdelegates based on the popular votes and her coalition. I hope this is still the plan. Axelrod wants to try to redraw the electoral map, this being part of the reform, the fact remains though many of those states are firmly Republican states and it won’t change in November.
Djia said:
An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.
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Yes.
There is going to be a lot more of this type of thing emerging soon. The Elitist Triad of BHO/MSM/Effete Dem Leadership has no idea the Pandora’s Box its opening here.
You do not try to force out the leader among the popular vote of your registered members for some sweetie-calling, spouse-hates-America-having, Afghanis-speak-Arab chump like Obama and not suffer for it.
There are millions of Dems who will never vote for OBambi. These are the people whom the Elitist Triad has smeared the entire contest and whom that Triad is about to be brought to its knees by.
The pipe dreams about opening up states like Kansas and Georgia are so laughable as to bring up discussions of acid flashbacks. These embarrassing assertions are being made because it is the latest attempt by the Elitist Triad to escape the reality which West Virginia just reinforced:
Obama is going to get obliterated by white working class voters.
Everybody knows it, and this missive from the Ohio group only reinforces it. The “Georgia”, etc talk is merely a pitiful attempt to make SD’s not see what is right before their eyes.
OBabmi is going to be electorally drawn and quartered, and there isn’t a damn thing that the Elite Triad can do about it. And they know it, which is why when, I think it was TMac, said to Tweety that pretty soon HRC will be embarking on an “I told you so” tour Tweety lost his sh*t. He knows its coming. They all do. All the huffing and puffing and Edwards endorsing isn’t going to blow the working class white voters’ house down. Or the Latino house. Or the Jewish house. Or the Asian house. Or the white women house.
Since the February Black Belt states primaries, BHO’s trajectory has been steadily downward. Outspending HRC didn’t change that, neither did the MSM calling voters racist (not the 92% of the AA’s backing BHO, mind you; they are exempt from such charges). Bambi knows, which is why he quit on WV.
Nothing can stop what’s coming. They all know it, which is why you are seeing the wild over-reactions to what Bush said today. These people trying to shield Teleprompter Man are all on their last nerves and they are all on about their 3rd political mortgages.
The Bambi Housing Bubble is going ‘boom,’ and they’re going to be taking the same bath in it’s wake that Mish and ‘Bams are.
Can’t wait.
Paul F. Villarreal
VillarrealSports.com
look what i found in a 3 minute google search!!
EASTSIDE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS
Carmen Cordova cordovadotone@yahoo.com
Cynthia Ruccia cruccia@aol.com
Jeri Wolman drjwolman@insight.rr.com
h t t p : / / coalitiondemscentralohio.org/?page_id=4
Birdgal – Thank you for your kind words, and thank you for all you do for Hillary.
Not sure what Biden said, just saw the headline on Politico.
Does anyone really care what Biden says?
Ha ha ha.
Paul F. Villarreal
If they recognize Fl and Mi it changes the delegate math .. even one half would change it, unless they override that at the DNC as well. The hill is steep but if she keeps racking up the popular vote her case is easier. Its obvious that the party thinks edwards will just majically bring in the blue collar, lunch bucket voters .. when in reality, he couldn’t do it in his own primary or in the 2004 election ..
I think a reminder of who pays $400 for a haircut it due to the people of Ky and beyond.
Dot –
I’m sure Axelrod would love to redraw the EV map.
Too bad he can’t.
Again, there are only so many latte libs and AA’s in the country. It’s pretty simple.
David Don Quixote Axelrod can tilt at as many EV windmills as he wants, but the charade he and his race-baiting Chicago Posse has been perpetrating is coming to an inevitable end. Someone grab the long cane for Axe because it’s about time to yank him off the stage. I think Deval “Bambi I, 41% approval” Patrick could use him some Axe right now.
He he he.
Karma’s a bitch, eh?
Paul F. Villarreal
ewwwwww somebody is Sh*tting in there pants after WV….somebody better send the obama camp some pampers…..they are getting kinda stinky and need a “change”
Djia – ha ha ha
after WV….. things are very transparent…..not just to us hillary supporters but to the DNC “big boys” club
especially the BO camp ……they are flapping in the wind behind hillary’s big win in WV!!
and to think it was a woman that made them flag in the wind even after all the media BS and the $$ that outspent her!
It’s still time to celebrate!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ
maybe we should send some pampers over to CNN and MSNBC too while we’re at it
LOL!!
I am pretty sure that cafferty,tweety & KO need some changes as well
don’t forget to tie a “binkie” to those pampers for
djia Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
look what i found in a 3 minute google search!!
EASTSIDE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS
Carmen Cordova cordovadotone@yahoo.com
Cynthia Ruccia cruccia@aol.com
Jeri Wolman drjwolman@insight.rr.com
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What do I say or do?
I think she should tell the bastards at DNC that she would walk out with her 17 million troupes.
Nice of Jon Stewart to group T-Mac & Matthews in a bit on their argument the night of the WV primary, calling the skit a
“West Virginia Douche Off”.
Stewart’s been a little b*tch at crunch time, always played nice w/the Clintons but clearly cast his lot with BO, though he tries to hide it.
So, it remains us against the world….
and I’m still betting on us.
TMAC was perfect against Matthews. He looked like he wanted to punch him in the mouth.
winhill
I am not sure, but i thought about emailing her and asking what we can do, see if she has any suggestions for us
maybe even also ask that she include in her conference that it’s much larger than just swing states that will work
against BO in the GE
and more than just women!
djia,
Please do! We are running out of time, and we need to find out more on what to do! I will get that site back up for us with the supers in every state that has not declared yet. Ok please dija email them and lets get support from the ones that know the dnc very well!
The naked ambition of obama and Edwards as they stepped over the body of Hillary after first “praising her” is the subject of this new diary at mydd.
Please go and read it and rec if you like it. thanks
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/125945/518
Linfar, that was a great diary, Hillary an american hero! I love it!
Hey Universal, Good to see you and hear your wonderful comments. Miss ya.
shenanigans Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Below is some information and the superdelegates in Ohio that are uncommitted. Please post any other information or superdelegates from your states that need to be contacted, thank you.
Dear Hillary Clinton Supporter,
Hillary needs your help now as much as ever to win the nomination. As our campaign moves into the final states of this primary season, we need you to write, email or call the delegates in your state who are neutral and urge them to support Hillary. In addition, we want to contact the delegates who are supporting Hillary and thank them for their support.
In this packet you will find contact information for all of the delegates who support Hillary or are undecided. You will also find sample letters, but we encourage you to make your letter as unique and personal as possible, adding your own reasons for supporting Hillary.
The best letters are personal, polite and positive! Content can include any of the following:
Thank them for their role in the Democratic Party and for taking their position as a delegate to our national convention seriously.
Why you personally support Hillary. Why you voted for her in your state’s primary.
Why you think she will make the best president.
Thank them for taking the time to read your letter.
Copied below you will find two sample letters: one for super delegates who support Hillary and one for undecided super delegates. Please feel free to use these as a guide, but we encourage you to use your own words to make your letter personal and original.
Thank you for your continued support of Hillary Clinton.
Sample Letters:
For Delegates from YOUR state who are supporting Senator Clinton
Dear ______________
Thank you for supporting Senator Hillary Clinton. I truly believe that Senator Clinton is the best candidate to unite our state and our nation and move American forward beginning on day one.
Now, more than ever, we need a leader of strength and substance who will win the White House and is prepared to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care and re-establish America’s reputation in the world.
Thank you again for your continued support of Hillary Clinton,
Sincerely,
Name
Town, State
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For Delegates from YOUR state who are neutral
Dear ______________
Thank you for your support of the Democratic Party and for all of your hard work on behalf of the ___ [State] democrats. In the ___ [state Primary or caucus], I supported Hillary Clinton because I believe that she is a leader of strength and substance who will be able to regain the White House for our Party and move America forward beginning on Day One.
I urge you to consider supporting Senator Clinton in your role as a Delegate to the National Convention. Now more than ever, we need her to be our next President.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Name
Town, State
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LETS DO IT GUYS!
Does Edwards help him close gap in Kentucky? Also, any chance we can do better in Oregon?
jbstonesfan Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Does Edwards help him close gap in Kentucky? Also, any chance we can do better in Oregon?
I doubt Edwards wll move one vote. Yes, there is always a chance we can do better in Oregon by calling canvassing, etc..
Hey, Universal, Mom is hanging in. She’s at the Senior Cener now driving everyone who wants buy tgheir lunch stark rving mad as she cannot count change anymoe
But what the hey. As long as she can go and fake it, I am not saying no.
Go here click on your state and send a letter from up above to all the uncommited! PLease we need to hurry!
http://www.demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
Thanks Confloyd. She is the Hero who cannot be erased no matter how hard the boys try to lock her out.
Insanity Plea???
The Obama Campaign Goes Completely Insane
John Podhoretz – 05.15.2008 – 11:12 AM
If you look a few posts below, you will find the text of President Bush’s powerful and moving speech to the Knesset today. In the course of it, he says something very general:
Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.” We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.
Bush here is arguing in very broad brush against a generally meliorist view of foreign policy — one, moreover, that is held by many people who work inside his own government. For some reason, people who work for the almost-certain nominee of the Democratic party have decided that Bush was attacking him. As Kate Phillips writes on the New York Times website:
In a telephone interview on CNN just a few minutes ago, Robert Gibbs, the communications director for Senator Barack Obama, called Mr. Bush’s remarks “astonishing” and an “unprecendented political attack on foreign soil.”
An “unprecedented attack on foreign soil”? That is completely deranged. Not only did Bush not mention Obama by name, it is doubtful he or his people were thinking about Obama. The argument that negotiating with terrorists is appeasement akin to Europe’s appeasement of Hitler is a standard view among hawks on the Right — decades old, dating back even before Barry Obama found the audacity to hope in the pews of Jeremiah Wright’s church. It is exactly the sort of thing a man with Bush’s politics would say in a speech before the Knesset, whether Obama had run for president or not.
The Obama campaign has even issued a statement on the matter in Obama’s name:
It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power – including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy – to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.
I’m not sure what this all says about Obama. Is this smart politics, getting his base riled up on his behalf? Is he trying to use Bush as a wedge to make the case to the Jewish community in the United States that the bad man in the White House is mischaracterizing him and therefore Jews should like him more? Is he trying, for the millionth time, to rule any criticism of himself out of reasonable bounds by complaining about something that isn’t even criticism of him?
Or is this just another example of Obama’s thin-skinned-ness?
So how many times does a Presidential Candidate have to demean women, before his loyal subject realize what he is doing. Many have college degrees. Of course he apologized, so his followers think it is OK. Isn’t that what a wife beater does, so the women stay with him?
I just had to bring that up.
Bush actually helped us as Obama knows he is treading on thin ice with the Jewish vote..his overreaction shows just how concerned he is over the Jewish vote. Most of my Jewish friends here in Boca are telling me they are going with McCain….
jbstonesfan,
Would your friends go with Hillary if she were the nominee or have they always gone Republican?
Basil,
Pt III is up. Tell me what you make of it.
Also, there was this;
Curtain Time For Barack Obama – Part IV will be published on May 16, 2008).
I just phoned a tate NARAL to express anger at the national NARAL endorsing Obama, and told the girl that if Obama gets the nomination, I’m voting for McCain and she said “You’re not alone.”
new mex
again my problem is with the women on the plane. the behaivor was beyond reprehensible. lets find out who they are.
JanH, you have been missed
Nice to see you back
ClintonDem,
Obaama campaign not deranged at all. This is what they did to Hillary. It is their campaign tactic. Obama is the centere of the universe and if they can make it appear Bush has attacked Him specifically, and not a policy, they garner publicity and votes from those who hate Bush. it is very clever strategy. And it has been working. McCain might be able to stand up it, not sure.
ok……win hill ……..et all
this is what i just emailed that lady having the press conference
Hello
After reading Ben Smith from politico’s article on you and your press conference
Today I set out to locate you, I hope you do not mind.
My name is ____________, I am a 45 year old “typical white” democrat woman
I am also a Hillary Clinton supporter from Iowa.
And it is of interest to me and many many other Hillary supporters
From around the nation to not see Barack Obama as our party’s nominee
We don’t feel he is what this country needs in the White house.
We are very angry with our party and feel like it has abandoned us
“middle class middle of the road democrats” you know, the bread
And butter of the democrat party.
As women, as democrats, as Americans we feel the Democrat “boys club”
have allowed and found it acceptable to use sexism to take over our party in
some sort of a coup. We are mad as hell! And we will not take it!!
There are so many of us “voiceless” that will also work as hard as we have worked
To get Hillary elected to see Obama lose in the GE.
Much as your selves, we would like our voices heard all over this country
Not just with in the swing states. We would appreciate it very much
If you could find a way to include all of us in your press conference
Statement later today.
If I am reaching you too late for that I would like to impress upon you
To include us in the future.
I would also like to ask you for your advice on how we can organize
Across the country to help let it be known what we stand for and what
We will not stand for. Perhaps there is already an organization in place
That we can join? Thank you
Sincerely,
What woman, what press conference?
BACKGROUND: This is my little sister. She supported Hillary Clinton and went a rally of hers in February, but now she supports waffles. Grrrr.
—
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:01:09 -0500
From: “SARAH _____”
Subject: Re: Fwd: What Hillary Clinton will do for this country
To: “Jen _______”
Dear Jen,
I’m sorry that we fought a couple nights ago, but I stand by what I said.
Tell me in one sentence why Hillary Clinton would make a better president than Barack Obama? One sentence.
I doubt you could do it. Prove me wrong, if you wish.
Love,
Sarah
—
GAH!! I want to write the best one sentence ever. Some help would be appreciated.
Although “Because Barack Hussein Obama is a GODDAMN LIAR,” is good enough for me, I’m not sure it will win any points with my sister. Plus, I don’t like to use cuss words to my sister.
I really want her to turn back from the dark side. If she waffled over there, perhaps she could waffle back. I hope I hope.
Thanks in advance.
djia – You rock!!
Who was the guy that said he would endorse whoever won NV? We need his number!
linfar –
http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=618#comment-162154
# linfar Says:
May 15th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
What woman, what press conference?
it’s posted up thread, about a article of ben smith at politico today
about a group in Ohio that is having a press conference today
to let it be known that they will work against obama if hillary is not
the nominee.
TY @ Hallow
I think Hill will announce some sd’s before tommorrow evening. Friday is the best cycle .. today is taking care of itself. Bill is in Ky and Hill is on the trail. Chelsea is working. They cannot do anything else.
Do whatever you can to help her
God, I’d love to be a card carrying member of “Clinton Supporters Count Too”.
It’d also be neat to be on TV.
Hopefully no one takes offense to what I am about to say, but I feel to need to say it:
A lot of people want Hillary to run as an independent because of the way she has been treated by the DNC. I realize that time is too short to be able to get certified in all 50 states(although the democrats are only counting 48 and she still doing well), some say she would not do it because she is too loyal to the party.
This loyalty is what I have a problem with especially if she is not considering running in 2012. How can a person be loyal to a party when they have repeatedly stabbed her in the back. I don’t understand this aspect of Hillary. I wished I could, but sometimes I think a person needs to stand up and say I will not take this anymore.
Hillary I am sure knows what she is doing, and probably by running as a independent would be doing just what the jackels want her to do and it would save them of the black mark that will stain the Dean/Pelosi team for ever in History. I guess we should push how this apparent mutiny by the left wing will and is a stain that will not soon be forgotten and will prove to be a huge setback for the party for a long, long time. They is essence have maligned one of the most loved and prominent U.S. Presidents in my lifetime. As they say here in Texas, “you can’t stir S&^t, without getting some on you”, take heed Mr. Dean!
Thanks Linfar.
My sister tells me that Waffles crew was really, really, really rude in WVA on phonebanking and ground. I cannot believe that she did not get a call from any LIVE phonebankers .. she said she got a call from Hillary but that is it.
Got ahold of Manchins office and the woman said that he would endorse the winner of WV but only at the convention and if the person has the popular vote! WELL THAT IS IT! HE SAID HE WOULD ENDORSE BUT KNOW IF IT IS THE POPULAR VOTE INCLUDED!
Manchin in WV promised to endorse the winner in WV .
Get on the phone with his office .. I posted his number on last thread.
Call Senator Byrd and tell him the people of WVA spoke and he loves his people .. ask him to follow their lead.
Senator Robert C. Byrd
300 Virginia Street East
Suite 2630
Charleston, WV 25301
304-342-5855
202-224-3954
Got ahold of Manchins office and the woman said that he would endorse the winner of WV but only at the convention and if the person has the popular vote! WELL THAT IS IT! HE SAID HE WOULD ENDORSE BUT KNOW IF IT IS THE POPULAR VOTE INCLUDED!
Manchin in WV promised to endorse the winner in WV .
Get on the phone with his office .. I posted his number on last thread.
Call Senator Byrd and tell him the people of WVA spoke and he loves his people .. ask him to follow their lead.
Senator Robert C. Byrd
300 Virginia Street East
Suite 2630
Charleston, WV 25301
304-342-5855
202-224-3954
confloyd, it looks like the DNC want to get rid of Clintons more than they want to win in November.
Could she still get the popular vote without michigan and florida?
Most are dems with he exception of my doctor friends…there is a large contingent of Jewish republicans in S. Florida that will not support Obama…the Clintons are royalty here….when we met Bill in Boca, middle aged woman and men were as excited as I was when I met Mick Jagger!!!!lol!!!
“confloyd, it looks like the DNC want to get rid of Clintons more than they want to win in November.”
If that is the case, then let us make this as painful for them as possible. Not only should we work our asses off to make sure that Obama does not get elected President, we should also work our asses off to make sure that the Democratic Party loses control of both Congresses. This is the only way that they will regret their decision. I don’t care about the Democratic Party anymore!!!
“Could she still get the popular vote without michigan and florida?”
Nothing is impossible but this would be hard. A huge turnout in Puerto Rico coupled with a 30% win will put her over the top.
Hi Hillfans, if Hillary can win OR it will definitly hold the flock of SDs to BHO. Does anybody know if she has a chance?
ConFloyd,
You know we’re in total agreement on the Indy aspect & loyalty, etc.
Does it make sense if that’s a backup plan to take it to Denver, fight till the last breath, let the American people decide after an airing of all the facts at the convention, and then if it doesn’t happen, announce the run at the height of convention fever?
That’d take having an arrangement with someone on the ballot already like a Nadar perhaps, but the most important thing I’d think would be using that August platform and media saturation to make the break.
Probably sounds crazy, bit I could NEVER understand them taking this lying down. NEVER. Won’t believe it till I see it.