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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas
10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something
9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler
8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"
7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors
6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits
5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso
4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy
3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products
2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"
1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama
February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today
10 "Sup?"
9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"
8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"
7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"
6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"
5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"
4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"
3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"
2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"
1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."
January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans
10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"
9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"
8 "Smoke break!"
7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"
6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"
5 "Another smoke break!"
4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"
3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"
2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"
1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"
January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image
10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"
9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop
8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"
7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest
6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape
5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich
4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River
3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?
2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"
1 Uhhh...resign?
January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious
10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"
9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry
8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day
7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain
6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta
5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"
4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back
3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"
2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early
1 He demanded a recount
January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy
10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon
9 End our dependence on foreign owls
8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico
7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!
6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs
5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch
4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase
3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt
2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China
1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!
January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch
10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"
9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"
8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"
7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"
6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"
5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"
4 "Kissey kissey"
3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"
2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"
1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"
First? Give ‘em Hill!!!
Second? Give ‘em Hill
per fox: tight race in IN.
Where is NC results??
do we have to refresh those map sites, or does it go automatic?
I know I’ll find out soon, but I’m impatient.
IN 6% Reporting
Hillary 59%
Obama 41%
Per CNN
texan4hillary, from the previous thread, where did you hear the clinton camp were worried about nc?
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the urban areas in indiana have not reported yet.
EXIT POLL: 64% of Clinton voters would be dissatisfied with Bambi if he is the nominee !!!
IN. 8% reporting
Hillary 56%
Obama 44%
Per CNN
IN 9% reporting
Hillary 57
Obama 43
Per CNN.
All these exit poll questions spell DOOM for Obama, there is no other way to spin it! Wow, wow, wow. If she wins IN and can hang close in NC, this is a huge night for her!
In a big AA district Hillary holding her own
Allen county 32% in 13K for Obama to Clinton 10K (56 to 44)
IN. 10% Reporting
Hillary 56%
Obama 42%
Per CNN.
WOW: Candy Crowley: “the Clinton team expects to win in NC” holy jesus
I mean Hillary has 58%, Oooopppps
What????????????????????
Hillary starting to rack it up, nearly 20k ahead.
berkeley and joe fri
did i see an exit poll that said 59% of BO voters would support HRC should she win the nomination? sounds amazing, if true.
Berk, she must have meant IN.
yeah Berkeley, but at least on cnn they have already started spinning it as a win for obama if hillary is not able to get an upset in NC, which is stunning that anyone actually can think, looking at the history in this race with obama and the aa, that hillary would win NC; her getting close, and she has closed the margin big time, that’s the story! or it should be.
But then we have people like brazille, saying the math don’t change blah blah blah,,,,
Berkeley, are you effing kidding me?? Crowley said that? WOOHOO!
Give me momentum and energy and big victories over “math” and a candidate who’s hemmorraghing support by the hour, any day of the week!
Hillary will be in Indiana tonight for the election results. Bill Clinton will be in North Carolina for the election results. Both have speeches prepared.
Clinton taking most counties by approx 60% or more.
Berk, did you accidently write NC?
on what evidence berkeley? i hoping it is true.
If the Clinton team is saying what Candy announced, then their internals must be good!!
Both have speeches prepared?? cool, even funnier if Chelsea was a third place giving a speech, lol.
Candy said that about NC? and no one corrected her?? could she have been serious? hmm
Go, Hillary! BIG NIGHT. Gotta drive home from work shortly – y’all hold down the fort, OK?
Did she hear this tonight?!
Berk, you must have typed NC but meant IN right?
Hillguy: she must of meant IN.
Berk – did you mean “NC”? Not “IN?” (OMG, OMG, OMG!)
Informed: Drive safe!
Amazing how Senator Clinton’s goal post keep moving back. I guess they think that is the way to win. Anything close in NC is a victory, and IN what ever number is a win. Too bad Senator Obama does not have goals.
But then if he expect to be the President fo the US, he does not need goals? Amazing.
IN. 11% Reporting
Hillary 58
Obama 42
per CNN
I hope the 58/42 holds. She’s increasing by the minute, 22K now.
Is it true??? The Clinton campaign expects to win in NC????? Not a mistake?
IN 12% Reporting
Hillary 58
Obama 42
Per CNN.
Thanks, B’gal! “See” you all soon -
moon she is doing well aa in fort wayne wow she got alot more aa’s than what they said…
Christ, Berk. You don’t type something like that and then go away.
The big urban areas of IN, have not reported yet. So, there will be some tightening of the race.
About 21,000 voter ahead!!
4 minutes for north carolina to close
Berkeley, please come back and clarify your comment!
Hiya, folks!
The results are looking good so far.
BTW, whatever happened to the recount in Guam?
Yeah, Berk, are you sure she didn’t mean IN?????
clinton dominating among those who decided later.
But looks at admin’s comment… Bill has a speech prepared to deliver in NC on behalf of the love of his life.
from mydd.com
Polling places in Delaware County, Indiana have been ordered to be kept open until 8:40pm due to a problem with the programming of the voting machines and the polling places’ running out of back-up paper ballots.
Bill deserves a medal for all the hard work, he has put in for Hillary. WOW! What a guy!
IN 16% Reporting
Hillary 102,504 votes 57%
Obama 78,602 votes 43%
Per CNN
is delaware county out in the sticks or urban?
Berk must have heard it wrong. Fox is planning to call NC as soon as it closes.
Based on comments at Taylor Marsh’s site, I believe it became clear later that Candy mixed up Indiana and North Carolina.
IN. is looking better than I thought!!!
ABC calling NC for Bambi.
balls.
am i surprised, no
What are the numbers in NC?
CNN’s website called NC for BO.
Fox calls NC for BO.
So how did ABC do that with no results in???
Exit polls, JAS.
THEY ALREADY HAVE HIM AND THE VOTES ARE NOT IN?
NBC and Fox call it for O bama but no numbers
I think it’s fucking bullshit that they call NC this soon, and its SO OBVIOUS Hillary has won IN and they aren’t calling it. Bullshit.
how is it possible to call NC for BO when the votes aren’t even counted yet?!
GD it!!!!!! I hope she rips him a new one in Indiana.
Holly Shit… Then what does that tell us about the final numbers ????
Why can they not call IN then? Does it mean his lead in NC is higher than hers in IN?
My guess is she already conceded the win to him. he has not conceded the win to her.
JAS, Exit polls tend to inflate Obama’s numbers. I think Hillary still may keep his margin in NC to single digits.
Steph now saying that a split win is not good enough for Hillary, that it’s not a game-changer.
Guess he forgot about Bambi HIMSELF claiming that Indiana was the TIE-BREAKER.
Well here is some good news
IN 19% reporting
Hillary 127,561 58%
Obama 94,107 42%
Per CNN
They think its about 60/40
well lookey here
Clinton won white voters (58%) again 2 to 1 and the independents and republicans. However they said 8% of white voters voted no preference.
Anyone know what percentage of the white vote she got in NC?
don’t let them change the rules of the game. split win is good enough as PA was.
I think 59% Paula
ok hillfans, let’s see the margin in north carolina.
She hasn’t conceded. Have you seen her concede anything tonight?
Paula I agree! but no matter what, MSM is going to say she has to leave and leave now..
Clintopn is holding up very very well in Indiananappolis.
Bcalling it without numbers in is BS!!! big time!!!……..but won’t they be sitting with egg on their faces when Hillary WINS NC
How can they change that when a week ago, they said that IN was a tie breaker, and is she did well in NC it would be significant.
How corrupt is our system and it moving goal post.
If she won the white vote 2-1 there’s no way she lost 60-40.
All along Hillary was suppose to win PA, Obama NC and Obama himself said IN would be the tie breaker. Funny how the pundits all forget his tie breaker remark…
IN 21% reporting
Hillary 133,463 57%
Obama 99,079 43%
Per CNN
Aint over until the fat lady sings guys.
Howard County in Indiana is the “bellwether” county. Howard County was somewhat 50-50 but now Hillary is ahead there about 6. No votes yet in Obama stronghold of Lake County.
Charlie Gibson said that even though Hillary has a large lead in Indiana, they cannot call it because the areas of the state near Chicago have not come in yet. As if there’s gonna be some kind of landslide for Bambi there.
I told you they are desperate for him to win.
Look guys, a lot of people voted no preference here, thats what happened, many white voters, voted no preference 8%
Hillary loses NC
If Hill won 66% of the white vote, she should win about 46% in NC.
If Obama won the AA vote 30-3, that gives him a 27-point edge. If she wins white voters by 20-some points, his margin of victory is single digits.
NO Numbers yet in NC???
The dead people in Chicago will have voted again in Indiana?
MSM=Pandering for obama!!!
I agree that the networks shouldn’t call NC before any votes have been counted.
I think MSM will be looking STUPID once the numbers in NC come in
Emmy
Only 2200 votes so far in NC and Hillary has 58%
Someone on TM said the Clinton people expected to lose NC by more than 5 points.
rjk,
So WTF??? HOW CAN THEY CALL IT FOR OB??
I told you that my friends at the precincts in Indiana said she was going to win by 15%
I called it! She really is!
This is great!
She is beating him so far in NC that is what I see on CNN!
NC so far
C 52%
O48%
They called it based on exit polls. No real numbers yet. I figured he’d win, but we will have to wait to see what the count is. Don’t be down, guys – there was no way she was winning a state with 33% AA’s voting.
If Obama did not pull a lot of the white vote in NC, he still looks bad.
wouldn’t you know it .. they are keeping precints open for obama in Indiana…
glad Fox is at least saying he won NC because of the AA.
If the whites had bloc voted for Hill .. we could have pulled it out.
pulling that crap in portage ind and gary where the judge said the ballots needed printing…bullshit..thats where opfrah lives in gary
keeping them polls open for another hour
dot48 – Whaaat?!? How?
Can you think of anyone I can call to complain to? The DNC probably doesn’t care, but the MSM should know about this, and know that Hillary is going to win by even more than the polls show…because of cheating!
dot: this happens in every friggin primary. The same thing happened in CA.
in IN obama not that far ahead in his districts……hill could take them over….only a few votes behind right now
yep .. they plan to steal as many votes as possible
It also happened in OH, too.
So where should we be commenting about this bullshit about ‘the math’?
Those nancy boys at MSNBC are creaming all over themselves over NC and totally ignoring IN. I don’t care how impassioned a plea Hillary might put out to unite behind Bambi, I will never do it in a million years. Never.
Check out FOX front page:
Obama won for NC with 48.6% of the current result; HRC 51.4%….
They tried in Pa, but the judge threw it out.
phyl, but we do not know who is reporting.
Imagine if white voters voted for Hillary at 91%. And yet BO’s campaign still calls Hillary supporters racist. What a crock of shit.
They keep saying that in the end Hillary voters will come home and vote for BO in the GE. Do you believe that? Is that wishful thinking? Where are they getting the stats for the BO support? Many, many of the Democrats we know are adamant. They will NEVER vote for BO.
Go Hillary in IN. Hope it is close in NC. They say that the black vote did it for BO in NC.
Well, now that the AA community has helped Obama, what will they expect Obama to do for them, like Rev Wright said, he will be knocking on Obamas door on Nov 5th.??????
The working class voters will go for McCain in the GE.
this is one WHOLE family who WILL NOT vote for Obama. NEVER
Exactly — as Obama had stated, IN was going to be the tie-breaker! And we’ve got WV (a crucial swing-state) coming up!
They will not save him in the upcoming primarys!
Lets see if they got it right tonight, be so funny if NC was closer than they think.
We need our own news station …
These CNN exit polls are total crap! They’re trying to spin it like the conservatives are voting for Hillary because they’re all mindless minions of Rush Limbaugh. How come it’s a positive thing for Barack Obama to talk about “Obamablicans” or whatever he calls the Republicans voting for him, but when it’s Hillary and conservatives it is some kind of conspiracy by tools of the Republican party?
It’s a double standard, and it’s wrong. Hillary Clinton appeals to people of all ideologies…she transgresses all of that! People are too ignorant to give her the credit, just like they’re too ignorant to see she is the only one of the candidates who will WIN the GE.
Dot
my family will not vote obama either !!
but let’s all relax…fl and mi will be solved one way or another even if its the convention
she WILL and DOES have the popular vote already!
she has a 10pt win so far in IN
and she will not loose by much in NC if she looses at all..yet to be known…..of course i would love to see another Gaum in NC
and it would be oh so lovely if she won it even by 7 votes
I will NEVER vote for him. NEVER. I hate him, but I hate his supporters even more, and I would NEVER give them the satisfaction of receiving my vote.
The numbers are not looking good in NC.
Well I feel a bit cheated about North Carolina. I got the feel from the phone that we’d be quite close there…the AA came out for him though and if nothing else they stick for their own.
If whites had done that for Hillary .. she’d been able to cream him
So yet again he lost the white vote big.
Our friend Craig Crawford, is the co-host on c-span tonight…a breath of fresh air. Lynn Sweet (Chi Sun Times reported live from IN…very positive abt our girl’s campaign and the results so far…lead now is 16 points.
I don’t know if anyone ever visits Andy Martin’s blog but he speaks the truth about Barack Obama and it isn’t good. Check it out and pass it around.
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
MJ, I am just assuming FOX news is reporting it. The exit poll of IN is 52% 48% for Hillary, but none of the media will call the winner….
For NC, they are willing to call based on the exit poll.
come on North Carolina … bring it closer for our girl. She worked her heart out there and she’d do you right
if you look at the county map on cnn website, they are mainly counting the AA areas so far
they have yet to count hillary’s areas…so hang tight!!
Hillary Clinton is going to be our next President
regardless of the early results in NC. Remember when IN was the tie breaker? PA? TX? OH?
that was for NC they are only counting the AA areas so far
jr – I don’t want to hear it.
When BO was winning Republicans it was because they loved his ideas, now they say Hillary is winning them because of Rush, BUL&*S(&T! The republicans voting over on this side are a lot to do with Hillary being the better candidate. The audacity of spin!!
Out of NC…remember BO does better w/ early voters, Hill with later voters. Whoever called NC for him may have to eat crow.
What county is Indianapolis in? And what are the Chicago bordering counties we’re supposed to look for?
Rush has always had a crush on her.
She said so herself
“regardless of the early results in NC. Remember when IN was the tie breaker? PA? TX? OH?”
Exactly Ronald…..we need to speak out more about this. That she has won the tie breaker 4 times now!
dot48 – Please calm down. The great thing about America is that we can choose whom we vote for. I am glad all white people don’t vote together (if they did, it would probably be all for McCain!).
NC at this time, AA Areas only
Obama
41,284……66%
0%reporting
Clinton
19,677………..32%
No Preference
866
1%
0
Marion is where Indianapolis is. And they are talking about those counties in the NorthWest corner of the state around the Lake.
its funny because if you look at the map of NC on cnn the margins are so low and look how many counties still have not yet voted – look at it and let me know your thoughts
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NC
Ronald – Really? That’s funny. Is he married? I can’t imagine anybody marrying that guy, ever.
Thanks!
I’ll bet she got Republicans’ votes when she went on O’Reilly.
lol, seems operation chaos worked in indiana. she won the gop vote there.
ugh…some of those pundits on cnn….ugh
SUSA had NC at 5 points yesterday. We’ll see… I am still hopeful.
“They keep saying that in the end Hillary voters will come home and vote for BO in the GE.”
If that were true, Democrats would win every election. There are more Democrats than Republicans! Democrats always lose because they DON’T just vote for whoever is nominated.
rush goes thru wives like popcorn in a movie theater. he is 3 times divorced i believe.
I think they voted for her, not for Rush.
Because she’s that good.
Obama’s only winning Marion County by 20 percent so far.
if anyone is watching cnn…don’t…..it is disgusting.
And they say race doesn’t matter. I almost want Obama to be the nominee so he can get creamed by John McCain, but he will still have have his 90-95% of African-American voters.
It’s really funny that the super Obama-crazy Bloomington (in Monroe County) with the college there is going to go to Hillary Clinton. That’s going to really hit the BO camp hard.
hillfans, nc, south carolin, alabama, ect… you get the idea. aa votes almost entirely won him these states.
I want BO to get creamed, PERIOD. Oh wait, that’s what WV and KY are for.
How do you guys know where on the map the votes are coming in at?
Have any of the rural NC areas been counted yet?
The reason Obama’s states get called so quickly: Exit polls tend to inflate his support, and vice versa. For example, Fox’s exit polls had Hillary up 4 in PA; she won by 10 percent.
practically none of Hillary’s counties in NC have come in yet and she is holding her own in Raleigh.
Ugggh.. Killing HRC on CNN –call for her to stop unless she wins North Carolina!!!
Which network is better????
when are the WV and KY primaries? 2 weeks?
its lake county paula where gary and portage ind..are and opfrah lives in gary keeping thsoe polls open bullcrap..
NC is mostly his strong areas right now. Rural counties where Hill is strong are not in yet.
Is Hillary expected to get the southern part of Indiana (Evansville)??
Jen the Michigander – no – you can find these out at:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NC = NORTH CAROLINA
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IN = INDIANA
Guys, so not freak out over the media. They yell for her to get out whether she wins or loses – just ignore them.
@jen,
No none of Clinton’s precincts have been counted while a lot of BO’s (raleigh) included are in. I think they are really being premature. This is going to tighten substantially.
moon: if she is holding her own in Raleigh, that is good. That is the area of the research triangle and universities.
spega, watch Fox if you have to watch anything. NEVER go to CNN unless you want to have a stroke.
Did CBS project Hill wins Indie?
True that CBS called IN for HILL?
alcina, WV is next week, KY is the week after.
Actually I stopped watching cnn….let them talk …..that’s all it is….talk.
Time to call for Obama to drop out for losing Indiana!
Paula, that’s exactly what Brim Hume was saying before…the exit poll for IN was something like 52 to 48; but tend to inflate Obama’s support by few points….
I never watch CNN. Fox is better, especially with the mute button on. LOL!
Indiana was the tie-breaker.
I can’t believe that they won’t call IN but will call NC. They are fucks.
57-43 IN for Hill acc to CBS
Way to go Barack! Your winning general election coalition of African Americans and yuppies pulls through yet again!
Too bad the nation doesn’t mirror the demographics of Mississippi, North Carolina and South Carolina, too bad Republicans get to vote in November too, and too bad November isn’t a caucus or else you’d be a shoo in!
They better fucking call WV next Tuesday RIGHT AS POLLS CLOSE. Fuckers.
thanks hillguy. i don’t think i could take another 2 full weeks between contests.
Spega, watch Fox, they are not as biased. Only watch CNN when Lou Dobbs is on. He’s the only one that makes sense on CNN.
yeah, CBS called IN for Hillary! i’m off to bed I think.
CBS calls Indiana for Hillary!!!!
Finallly! How much you want to bet her margin in IN is bigger than his in NC?
LOL Huckabee is still getting 10% of the vote (in IN). That is a higher percentage than AAs who vote for our girl. And they call US racists???
Guys remember did not BO say Indiana was the tie-breaker….well Hillary won the tie-breaker!
Its starting to close in Indiana.
That 57-43 margin for IN has remained the same for quite awhile.
Fantastic showing for Hillary tonight….she is gaining momemtum as Indiana has shown us.
Will the narrow close to single digits in NC?
We should be excited when you think about it … I mean even bo thought he had a chance last week with Indiana….hello!!!
Obama is losing steam folks!
with this kind of results, Obama is simply a black candidate who plays old politics but disguised with the fake image…
I simply hope people will see through his old politics and fake image….
well…if we talk about it phyl they will know
way to early to call NC. It may be a long night. whatever the result, will have to look at the breakdowns. If any victory of his is too lopsided in the white/AA ratio, not good for him no matter what the total vote is.
If he loses IN by more than 10 he is in big trouble.
Axelrod is a real piece of work..
reading on TM – that people in line in NC can vote if they’re in line at 7:30…so, the media trying to call it early was way for them to suppress voters, trying to get people to leave the polls if they were standing in line, trying to dishearten people, especially those coming late – probably working class people. This is ridiculous – it’s tampering with the electorate – it’s psychological warfare as jeff Gold on stop-obama noted.
Ininla….thank you! that is the trickery we are seeing.
Can some one tell me how meany delegates WV. and KY have????
ininla…….could cause those still in line to vote for hillary
I mean that we are also seeing on the news channels.
cnn called it early for Obama so they could trash hillary for the next hour or two. disgusting
exactly – i have friends in NC – working very hard for this, the calling has gone well, lots of Clinton supporters, Bill clinton campaigning in the rural regions should also do well – the numbers should be close – this is such a ploy, and I am so tired of the media plotting with Obama at every turn to try and stuff his candidacy down our throats.
innila-u think she will pull closer in nc-i mean my god the clintons worked it so very hard?
i mean i called and called there-i mtellin yah a great many ncers are comming out big for clinton. big. i have no doubt.
sometime I can help to wonder: look at the old politics supporting obama, Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry….you believe these folks are capable of the new politics…….what a joke….
I forgot to mention that obama is a closet racist….even he denounced his pastor which I thought was an act….how do you denounce the 20 years of wright’s teaching (words, books, tapes etc.)….
Hillguy, I agree with you. I know many African Americans that buck the trend and vote for Hillary (some very taleted African American female friends of mine) and they have been steadfast in their support for Hillary.
BUT, African Americans who are voting SOLELY on race are doing themselves a great disservice. For one, they are eroding moral highground they’ve had on racial identity politics issues, and two, because Obama will lose due to his crazy assness – UnAmerican associations, racialist associations, terrorist and criminal associations – he will mar and stereotype the future chances of any LEGITIMATE and QUALIFIED African American candidate for many elections.
I really do think with each election result that shows African Americans voting 91% for the sorta-kinda black guy, it disillusions more and more whites, who aren’t keen on getting Okie-Doked by the post-racial phony man from Hawaii/Kansas/Illinois/Indonesia.
Because most of us here are smart enough to know Obama doesn’t “got it” enough to take the general election against McCain. Against Huckabee, maybe, but the Republicans did themselves a favor by electing a guy that conservative democrats and moderates are comfortable with as an “Un-Obama.”
Obama will lose in November if the Dems are stupid enough to try to run him. The question is not IF, it’s HOW MUCH.
texan, I want to call you but I don’t have my cell. Email me your number.
Jas 28 and 52
this whole election season has be such rubbish!! I would hate to have the repugs in office for another 4 years
but i am soooooooooooo serious about voting mc cain if hill is not the nominee
just so i dont have to listen to for 4 years or see BO and that nasty biotch wife of his in the whitehouse
So he loses OH, PA, IN. Not very good. Of course he does well in the black belt. He should. Favorite son. Not a winnable election strategy for November. Anybody with a brain and one eye (this excludes CNN, Dean, etc.) can figure this one out.
Come on North Carolina. Bring in the votes for Hillary.
Thanks !!
In every state BO get a court order to leave polls in a heavily AA district open longer. EVERY STATE he does this. Can you imagine what would be said about Hillary if she did that? He is such a fucking baby and will NEVER be president.
djia – doubt it – I mean campaign offices are calling people all the way to the last minute, but if they’re in line, you can’t get to them. But word of mouth that CNN called it, or those on text message will see it and that will affect the psychology of voters.
I will tell you that the same things happened at conventions – for example, Colorado delegate selection happening at the same time as Wyoming caucus – ppl were NOT allowed to use cellphones or get outside news, but no one was patrolled and delegates would flip to BO because they’re seeing on their CNN text updates that he’s winning a caucus.
This collusion with the media is just getting to me. I should take up kick-boxing or something.
“cnn called it early for Obama so they could trash hillary for the next hour or two.”
Exactly. They’re in the tank for him, and they do what they want.
MSNBC just came back from the commercial break saying IN is too early to call. What the hell? It’s not even close, and CBS has already called it! Are they slow in the head?
Also, calling NC the second polls “closed” was a dick move.
djia .. I have said I’d never vote for HIM. NEVER
Do you hear them chanting MI FL? hehehe
54-46 in Indiana – Hillary leading – what happened to the 15 plus margin??!?!?!?!
now its at 8 percent seperating the two!
63-35 in North Carolina _ Obama leading – WILL HILLARY CATCH UP???? IM SO FRUSTRATED
I would not vote for McCain (am I in the minority here?). I would consider a 3rd party candidate under the SLIM chance that the DNC sticks its head in its butt and cheats her of the nomination. But, if Obama was elected president, I think I will move to Europe.
I am moving to SD…..can i vote if i voted in IA already ?
say………who here is going to help the campaign in SD???
I live in nwIA now about 1.3 hrs from sioux falls (large city) and can put a couple people up here at my house
justmeinmountdorafl – Don’t be frustrated. I have some information from some people that Hillary Clinton will win in IN by 12-15%.
In NC, Obama will be up by single digits, maybe. That will be very difficult to call a victory.
know i understand how bush won.
dot , i have said that too
that i would vote for nadar…….but that wouldn’t guarantee that obama would loose
as it will be mainly mc cain and the dem nom that will take the majority of votes.
unfortunately
djia – I hope you are kidding (you are, right?). I am sure that is illegal, but you definitely can GOTV quite a bit if you are going to be in SD, and then it’ll make more of a difference than just your own single vote.
I am a proud Democrat, but I would have NO problem voting for McCain the Moderate against BO the FRAUD.
Look at Massachusetts! They fell for Axelrod’s creation (Deval Patrick) there, and they regret it. BO is barely tied with McCain there, in the bluest of all blue states.
justmein, Marion County is coming in now. That’s where Indianapolis is.
they still have them polls opened there in indiana they arent saying it something fishy going on..they didnt say they closed them either..stuffing the vote down there w eneed a surgate who can come out and say something.about these states for leaving the polls opened
slow burn here .. Fox news is starting to salivate at the thoughts of running against Waffles.
Which parts of IN haven’t been counted yet? Are they pro-Hillary counties?
Thankfully IN has voter ID check.
hallow
I was kidding about voting in SD LOL that’s why i winked
tough luck brazille……obama has caused the divisions…..
djia – OK, got it.
the good news.
Raleigh and Durham are almost done counting so this should be the biggest lead Obama has during the night in NC. We should see things tighten quickly in NC shortly.
you’re right , as most of the other counties for NC in OB lead are barely counted yet and could change significantly
It’ll be hilarious to watch the BHO people cry when Hillary Clinton wins by like 70-30 in both West Virginia and Kentucky ON THE SAME DAY. People in those parts don’t take too kindly to big, whiney elitists.
Thats good news for NC, but most of Hillary’s stronghold are finished reporting as well.
you know if Obama gets the nomination he will lose the GE what becomes of his political future??? governer??
This is RIDICULOUS.
The Media Whores are delaying this so they can spin it as Bambi won NC, and IN is SO CLOSE that we can’t call it, therefore Bambi wins.
wv and ky are one week apart … start calling wva tomorrow.
Jr
in NC they have barely started counting her counties
JAS – Maybe Hillary Clinton will hire him as like a doorman or something.
But, that isn’t political. He won’t have a political future.
lake county, porter st joseph laporte..there outside of chicago..no results
NW corner of Indiana is starting to report and Hill has a lead in Porter county.
jr – WHY ARE YOU SO NEGATIVE? We need to keep our spirits up, people! Hillary needs us!
all the pundits said he needed to show he could win the white voters in indianna……if he didnt he was in HUGE trouble
so let’s all see what they say this week……since he clearly is not winning the white votes in either state
I just have to say that the double standard that says it is ok for AA to vote based on race but not whites just makes me sick.
MJS – Dont forget Charlotte – thats a strong Obama county
obamabots are still in force tonight….
dot48 – Oops. My mistake. But she’ll still win by 30+ points in both places, which NOBODY can spin away.
dija, I was talking about Indiana. Sorry about the confusion.
All we can do Ann is keeping speaking up about it and blog everywhere.
dedfg – You mean on the internet, or on TV? What channel are you watching, I’m curious?
JAS – i think BO has a future as a spiritual leader..maybe a pastor in a church somewhere.
BO can become Hill’s chauffeur
“Driving Ms Hillary”
don’t worry guys. west NC is briefly coming in piece by piece. Hillary will have everything down to around single digits for NC.
alcina – With his BFF, right?
Ok Jr
but about 40% of them are not and about 12% have no report yet
payback will be hell next week in WV .. heads up though bambi will have his head stuck up Rockefellers ass all this week .. kennedy and kerry in tow.
someone needs to remind voters how waffles really feels about them .. guns, bible, clinging … memory is short it seems …
South Bend is reported 100%
hallow
i think hillary camp will go nuclear now
southbend 53 – 47 good
Ha, Obama not winning by enough in the big places, Hillary has north carolina
jr, Obama’s indiana counties are all but finished.
Hillary is winning the NWestern parts of Indiana which were Obama’s only shot at coming to a close finish in Indiana.
Ohh my god South Bend went to Obama???
Hopefully Hillary can hold on to the NW corner of Indiana and I can’t wait until Indianapolis finishes reporting.
she’s winning in the chicago news market area though
djia – That’s awesome. That’s where my friends are. They claim that it’s because the Chicago area plays Wright clips nonstop. No wonder they hate BHO.
now it is 5 percent sperating the two in Indiana wtf?
i mean indiana
by all counts, I doubt Obama will lose NC, but I don’t see him pulling off a significant margin.
the question, however, is why the DNC seems so intent on award delegates to heavily-AA influenced areas moreso than others.
Just as they have heavily given more delegates per person to caucus states.
brace yourself .. I am afraid tomorrow that the pressure is gonna be on her tomorrow to drop out. The whole polling was skewed in NC so that it would look like he overperformed.
ok….she is doing extremely well in the western part of the state and those numbers are just coming in. They are much smaller counties but they will add up. It will tighteng. NC Sec of State has them w/in 18 now.
MJS, because the DNC only knows how to lose GE’s.
Ann can you provide the link please? Thanks!
the margin in NC is slowly but surely tightening.
I agree single digits in NC – the media will take the next five hours to talk about his giant victory in NC, and tomorrow, they’ll be trying to spin single digit win. They need to look at the breakdown of voter demographics – I am sure he’s proved himself unelectable for the GE all over again.
NC State board of elections now has Clinton w/in 15 and closing fast.
@hillguy,
results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/1875/3445/en/summary.html
just h t t p
mj
just emailed u my no.
the sad thing is the media whores have already made this into a big win for Obama. HOW the fuck they did it I don’t know. The demographics were always in his favor … who ever said it should be a 2-0 for Hillary is nuts.
We in this country have been taken over by msm
it is a special sports event called “Trashing Hillary”, the competitors are “the media”
may be they have a private, secretive ceremony to award the winner…..
“the media will take the next five hours to talk about his giant victory in NC”
That’s what they want, and tomorrow they’ll move on to something else, like the storm in Myanmar.
Ann, thanks!
fuck them .. why are they putting so much into Lake County and Gary .. did they stuff the ballot box for him up there.
still dont understand why is it 5 percent? it shoul dbe more then 10!
Nobody ever expected Hillary to win NC.
plural I agree but still its like20 percent!
Slowly but surely inching up in NC.
I agree plural….that’s why his win means nothing there.
justmeinmountdorafl, I was just yelling the same thing to my computer.
@justmeinmountdorafl i think it is 6 in IN… in NC it is 15 right now…
it needs to be less then 10 in NC and more then 10 in IN to ‘offset’ one another
I hate to break it to any Obama supporters reading this board, but after tonight, it is only clearer that Senator Barack Hussein Obama will NEVER be the president of the United States. Neither in this lifetime, the next one, or in hell.
I can guarantee ANY Obama supporter this simple fact and will take any one of them on in predictions and arguments.
The primaries are unfolding as I had originally thought. Hillary will certainly be the nominee when everything is said and done. Tonight should only raise more questions about the electability of Barack Obama.
If Barack wins by less than 30% in NC (which is the percent of AA’s in that state), it will raise very very serious questions.
but the media has already spun it as a wipe out in NC .. Hillary surrogates need to pounce on all the shows tomorrow .. OR BETTER .. Hillary herself.. she’s her best surrogate. Book all the morning shows .. go after His Highness …
I swear if he gets the nomination I will be gleeful to watch the republicans destroy him.
Big problem in NC is raleigh. 50 K vote difference in that county. that is the majority of the difference.
I will never vote for this bastard!
notice they stuck every white person they could find behind him.
watching dancing with the stars now, let me know when Obama’s over speaking
LOL……had to switch to deal or no deal
msm had too much BO for my nose
Brand-new article detailing how Barack Obama’s North Carolina win, depsite first appearances, actually
damages his chances to be the Democratic nominee:
http://www.villarrealsports.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=494
The mainstream media’s over-reaction to Obama’s win, predictably, is dead-wrong in its assessment.
This win actually seriously damages Obama’s chances to become the candidate for Democrats who wish
to have a fighting chance against John McCain.
HE CAN ALWAYS GO TO WORK FOR REZKO
Or he could be a community organizer.
MJS: If Barack wins by less than 30% in NC (which is the percent of AA’s in that state), it will raise very very serious questions.
I agree! There are serious questions about BO’s electability.
He is already taking a dig at Hillary. F**k the bastard.
me and you too .. just me .. I despise him. I know I’m not supposed to hate but I feel nothing but pure hatred for him and this whole naked process of theft by deception. That is what he is doing to the AA and they don’t realize it. I do not believe that he would care for the AA like the Clintons have. That is the worst part of this whole thing. Bill and Hillary have done so much for them .. just like the other Judas’s ,, Bill and Hillary showed real class and gave these people a hand up and this is the thanks they get.
42/56 now, within 14
I am also watching DWTS….the guy singing was just on AI too (in the audience) I love his singing though.
love appolo on DWTS…
dot48 its just upsetting – I looked at the guy’s website and its just pure sickening – almost propanganda (sp?) and its almost like they’re trying to lure you in you know. scary. Im tired.
Yes, it’s 14. Maybe it will end up in single digits!
is anyone safe yet? I missed it so far.
omg i turn him off oh geez drifter drifting in the wind
again..let us know when he is done
I’m tired too .. can’t imagine how Hillary does this. I really thought our calls into NC would bring the totals within a few points…
JAS Says:
May 6th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
you know if Obama gets the nomination he will lose the GE what becomes of his political future??? governer??
He has yet to win anything against a viable Republican, I think. I hope to see the GOP take him on seriously, whatever he runs for next.
They’ll vote for her in November.
Lake county in Indiana is worrisome. It’s got a population of 494,000 and a black population of 26% according to the US census website. None of that vote has come in yet according to CNN. Assuming 25% of the population casts a vote in the dem primary, that’s an additional 124,000 or so votes that haven’t been counted yet. Hopefully Hillary will keep it close there.
moononpluto,
where are you getting that poll 14
BHO trying to convince himself and idiots at his rally that white America, blue-collar will rally to him. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note to David Axelrod and BO campaign: Lower BO’s teleprompters so he has to actually look at the people rather than have his nose stuck up in the air. He looks so arrogant and elitest!
When you watch BO give one of his speeches with the sound turned off, it is amazing how his body language shows the REAL Obama.
Theres something wrong here, SUSA had her up by 12, they are never this far out.
results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/1875/3528/en/summary.html
Southern Born: That’s so TRUE! Everytime I see a picture of waffles, he’s got his nose pointing skywards. I guess he’s trying to get his nose as far away from his body odor as possible
Southern Born, I think his latte demographic finds that attractive.
moononpluto – You’ll see. SUSA was not wrong. There are plenty of votes left, and the margin will get much bigger.
Here:
results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/1875/3528/en/summary.html
Dot, Now he wants our votes. He made fun of us all these days. f**k him I will never vote for him.
His brain-washing tactics may work on latte-drinking cappucino’s, but people who work for a living won’t be BAMBOOZLED OR HOODWINKED. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS SEE AYERS STANDING ON OLD GLORY. I SAY LET’S MAKE POSTERS TO SEND TO EVERY HIILARY SUPPORTER TO PUT ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR TO REMIND THEM TO NOT SUPPORT BHO – E V E R !!!!!!!!
the only way Obama will ever be Commander In Chief is if he runs in Hell with Rezko and Ayers as his running mates.
better yet, put those posters on every light pole in every city
Now w/in 13 in NC. cheer up all.
Levon Says:
May 6th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Lake county in Indiana is worrisome. It’s got a population of 494,000 and a black population of 26% according to the US census website
yeah and they kept the polls open for a hour and a half more..he uses there media market and opfrahs too..it pisses me off..
There really is no room to squeak anymore in Indiana.
What is going on with Lake County?
Shit its within 4% in Indiana.
Kos says Harold Ford called on her to drop out. Is that true?
they must be throwing out hill’s votes in lake county
Don’t trust the polls…the only polls that count are the VOTERS.
The polls this season has been so manipulated that I have very high trust issues with them.
they would call for her to drop out even if she took both states by 10
moononpluto, What do you mean “no room to squeak”?
THINKS HE CAN TALK ABOUT SMALL-TOWN VALUES NOW AND JOBS, ECONOMY AND PEOPLE WILL FLOCK.
WHERE THE HELL IS AYERS APPOINTING HIM TO LEAD FOUNDATION FOR EIGHT YEARS, AUCHI, ALMASSARAE, WHERE THE HELL ARE THESE STORIES?
INSULTING THAT HE TALKS ABOUT HIS GRANDPARENTS THAT HE DISSES ON A DAILY BASIS. THREW HER UNDER THE BUS IN MARCH.
I WILL NEVER BE IN THE COLUMN OF SUPPORTERS WHO HELP MO LIVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THEIR NOI BUDDIES TO HANG OUT IN. N E V E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have trust issues with the whole election evening.
2 large counties in IN haven’t been counted.
I thought Harold Ford was a supporter.
now its 52-48 wtf
And another note to the BO Campaign…get him some botax. BO’s developed big frown lines right between his eyes in the past month or so. Tell him to quit looking so angry and bitter…his eyes are hard…maybe you should keep him from hanging out with Michelle so much. How come BO does not smile when he is giving one of “those” speeches?
Turn off the sound and just watch him…!!!
Paula i mean there are 2 big counties bordering illinois and Hillary’s lead is dropping.
if both In and Nc are lost .. I think she will reassess. Just being realistic. Even though they were both his territory, the things that have come to light on him would have taken down and wiped out anyone else. The party is covering for him, the media is tanking for him ..
I’m honestly not surprised by any of these results. NC was going to be a loss, and IN was always close. This doesn’t change delegate distribution much. It’s still going to be decided by supers on the basis of electability.
First they said she had to take OH and TX or drop out
Next they said she has to take PA or drop out
After that they said she had to take IN or drop out
Next they will say she must walk on water or drop out
Guess what? Dropping out is voluntary. No one can force her to drop out. There are no provisions in the DNC rule book for it. The longer they play this drop out game, the more stubborn Hillary becomes. The more stubborn she becomes, the more contests she wins, the more she is respected by her fellow citizens. And rightly so!
If need be, this will go to the convention floor in Denver. SHE IS NOT DROPPING OUT.
Hillary’s closing in fast in NC
well with Indiana coming in so slow it does make one wonder … even fox put waayyy too much into Lake county .. makes one wonder wtf is going on.
True tabby, I mean we wanted to be positive but even cnn stated that they had expected bo to win NC.
what counties in IN are left for Hillary?
2 large counties in IN have not come in. What is up?
dot48, it depends on which way Lake County goes. large population over there.
the surrounding counties are all Hillary by a mile, so we’ll see.
ooohhhhhhhhhh 43/55 now in NC, within 12
lake and la porte
Yes, she’s within 12 now in NC.
Glen Beck has Michelle Obama’s number. If you get to watch his show .. he has her number. She is one angy woman with real issues.
moononpluto,
Im watching cnn where are you guys watching this!
How dare that SOB about the american flag draped over his fathers coffin when his friend Ayres stomps on it.
NC state elctions board website
I’m sorry, but is BO witnessing right now, or giving a speech?
results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/1875/3528/en/summary.html
here
Hillary’s been able to keep down a lot of Obama’s margins in East NC. That’s very good.
Even if she didn’t end up winning it, I would LOVE to see Hillary pull ahead of Bambi in North Carolina, only temporarily, just so all the Media Whores would crap their pants live on the air.
Now w/in 12 in NC
Where are yiu looking at the results Fox still shows 57-41 BO in NC.
Hey Hawk…don’t you DARE leavt IA City w/out leaving me your email, thru admin.
birdgal Says:
May 6th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
lake and la porte
i wanna no what is going on there…fishy its real fishy
and porter county inbetween is finally moving to count votes
Hey what did Michelle say to BO when she came out on the stage after his speech…he looked at her and sort smercked??
Joe, Donna Brazille would prbbly go into a fit and start talking about racism.
well, I have to say the media outdid themselves in showing their extreme bias for BO tonight.
but if you look at the map of NC – Hillary’s only doing well in western part of NC which is small towns but Obama doing well in central or eastern NC which is heavily populated
What country do we live in anyway? I don’t really know this place anymore. How could ANYONE with his TERRORIST TIES be winning the office for the Presidency?!? Watching this coup de tete in slow motion right before our eyes.
Oh no, Bob Beckel.
Are lake and la porte for hillary?
how can American’s still vote for him after they hear this wife. I just don’t get it. The AA bloc voting is going to change the landscape of America and the whites just don’t get it.. WAKE UP
justme, Obama was supposed to BLOWOUT Eastern NC, which is full of latte liberals. He’s winning some areas there by only 5% or less.
that’s pretty good for us.
Lake county may be doing the same thing St Joseph’s county did just report all their precincts at once.
how come they talk about middle age women all the time but not middle age men.
jesus guys, i’m not liking this, she’s down to a 38k lead now.
only 130k votes difference in NC so far
This is very bad. Gery is not in yet.
Some said earlier that they kept polls in Lake County open until 8:40 eastern time. That was an hour ago. Where the hell are the numbers??
WHY ARE THE MAJORITY OF WHITE DEMOCRATS STANDING BY AND LETTING THE AA HIJACK OUR PARTY?!?
WRONG BOB BECKEL. WE WILL NEVER, EVER VOTE FOR HIM AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK.
NOT ELECTING BHO WILL SET THE PARTY BACK DECADES? LIKE ELECTING BHO WON’T?
they are deliberately doing this so that her victory speech will be late .. those bastards. why hold up the vote count
yes dot, the last three hours have been bo and trashing hillary.
PLEASE ANSWER ME FRIENDS IS lake and la porte AND LAKE COUNTY FOR HILLARY PLEASE RESPOND!
ok…some quick math. Marion county (indianapolis) 91% reporting. about 160 K votes total 66% for BO. w/9% left, that is about 15 K votes left or so. If same percentages hold, he will get another 9 K votes from that county.
I’m not watching much….just flick over for a minute to check the results….but even in that minute it is always the same conversation.
He’s supposed to win Lake County, not sure of La Porte
curiosity .. I’ve been saying the same thing. The AA have made a political statement .. they are going to vote for him no matter WHAT. The exit polls have been WRONG on every count. The whites need to step up or be shit outta luck with this dude and his creepy anti American background and his hateful wife.
I think it’s time we started an organized effort against him if Hill isnt the nominee. We need to figure out how to effectively work to keep him OUT of the white house. He is dangerous.
ok…this is weird. Charlotte has only reported 17% so far……….
The suspense is unbearable.
How can 66% of the voters think that BO is HONEST as reported on FOX. Do those people live in caves or at the bottom of Lake Superior?? Do some of the people we meet on the streets and highways actually have brains? That’s scary.
If this ends it for Hillary, I’m checking out of politics for the rest of the year. I’m sick and tired. I will not lift a finger for Barack, and I will almost certainly go to McCain.
If The-Next-President-of-the-United-States (Hillary) doesn’t win Indiana tonight, I believe it will be due to cheating and fraud. With her lead in the polls plus the demographics of Indiana, this win should have been much easier than it is looking right now. Leaving some polling places open–when everyone else has to play by the rules–is one example of what I am talkiing about. That two of BO’s strongest counties are the last to report is also suspicious.
Survey USA has the best track record among the pollsters this season. I think they were right in IN and NC, thus there is something else going on.
I also get the feeling that BM wanted to “engineer” the reporting this night to benefit BO.
Seriously something smells in Indiana.
everyone should contribute $5 tonight to hillary’s campaign for a show of support.
yes…lake county looks problematic. 400 K population 1/3 AA
sad to say, but I have to admit:
I’m contemplating ordering “McCain 2008″ signs for my lawn depending on how stupid the democratic party is.
Now, that can all change if the democrats make the smart and only choice and go with Hillary.
If they don’t, I will campaign my heart out for McCain.
Smells like dirty Chicago politics.
And Lake is next to Chicago, hopefully the large Latino population turns out
HillGuy Says:
May 6th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Some said earlier that they kept polls in Lake County open until 8:40 eastern time. That was an hour ago. Where the hell are the numbers??
yep that what i am saying they closed where are the numbers ..i would never trust that part in indiana..never its opfrah land
laporte – 110 K in pop, 10% aa.
I’m seriously worried guys.
I think hill fans need to not watch fox for a week or two …..lower their ratings and send a strong message!!
Lake county might have 1/3 AA but that does not mean the rest could not go to Hillary
I read today that some Washington insiders say that Dean believes that any Democrat can win this year against the Republicans so he’s not as worried about Obma’s negatives.
My take: Dean is vastly underestimating the problems that Obama would have in the general election and the fierceness of the upcoming GOP attacks. He is also vastly underestimating the amount of dissatisfaction with working class Dems towards Obama. He is underestimating the appeal of McCain who will be looked on as “safe” and as experienced. It’s obvious Dean vastly underestimated the popularity of Hillary. It shows he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. All he has done is rip the Democratic party apart and change a sure victory in Novemeber to a question mark.
I hate to say this guys but i think we are going to get screwed here.
WTF has happened.
I agree with you completely about Dean.
why are AA’s “clinging” to Obama? that’s a much better question than why the working class “cling to guns and religion”
im not going watch any fox anymore only greta she is fair..and i will watch nacy grace..quit giving them there ratings now,at fox..because there gonna trash her more they want him so mccain will beat him..
Dean is out of touch, incompetent, corrupt, and repulsive in every sense of the word.
brit hume, ooing over bo speech, saying their was some oooooing in the studio
yep , i am striking on fox!!
Guys, what the heck is happening? Gary isn’t in. That’s going to go BO. I think we have troubles.
I also had read on TM that rural voters didn’t come out heavily in IN. That could be a major problem.
Dot, My only consolation is that “The AA bloc voting is going to change the landscape of America and the whites just don’t get it.. WAKE UP:
that it will never happen. They will implode. the backlash will be swift. the stampeded to mcCain will be deafening. And the AA voting block can say by by to affirmative action, to quota systems, and all the other leveling strategies implemented because white democrats believed it was the fair thing to do.
For 91% of the AA voting block to go for Waffles is the most racist thing I have heard. Why doesn’t Deaniac point THAT out?
Bedtime for me…..hope the news improves over night.
Guys stay strong ok she is still winning and is sneaking up on him in NC everyone lets breath!
If this is the end of the line for Hillary, I swear to work against Obama. He has lied too much, he has been propped up too much, he has attacked most viciously with the aid of the media, that I absolutely feel angry. I feel abused, for Hillary. I feel wronged. With the help of the Republicans, I want his supporters to feel that way too.
Per MSNBC, we should know about Lake Co. at about 10 PM.
Now guys, I am Hillary die hard to the end but the onslaught tomorrow is going to be enormous.
There is no way in hell i am voting for Barack Obama, full stop. period.
guys, even if Hillary loses NC and IN today, so what? (she won’t, I’m guessing) Hillary will trample Obama in WV and KY. FL and MI will have to count, and then PR is ours.
Obama wins North Carolina, CBS says Clinton takes Indiana
From Yahoo
ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080507/us/politics_usa_politics_dc
fox said they were bringing pizza for the polls in those counties…….so it’s dinner break
that’s BS!!
hillfans, stay strong. lake county taking forever.
this won’t be the end of hillary, she is going to convention and so are we!!!
Tomorrow, I register as an Independent.
LAKE COUNTY COULD BE OURS EVERYONE!
Where are the fucking numbers????
what does CBS know the rest dont
What I don’t understand is anybody expecting the media to be any different than they are. They are in the tank for BO, and nothing is going to change that.
But Hillary is fighting and we have to support her.
OK, I’ve done some math on the Lake county vote based on Marion county. They both have a 26.1% black population. Assuming Lake county votes in the same percentages as Marion, then the following numbers should be close to what we see there:
Total votes: 104,475
33% of that vote total would be 34477 for Hillary.
67% of that vote total would be 69998 for waffles.
net gain for waffles would be 35521.
Let’s hope that those percentages don’t hold in Lake, and that LaPorte comes in for Hillary!
yeah and stuff the votes down with pizza oboamai
was CBS the one that called Missouri for Hill?
Oh, great. I only turn up the sound for a bit and what do I hear…the symbolism of the date of the acceptance speech at the Dem. Convention…I assume is the very same date of the MLK “I Have a Dream” speech.
Okay…no more sound…no more FOX.
lanny on cnn
we’re in trouble in IN…
Among U.S. cities with a population of 100,000 or more, Gary has the highest percentage of African-American residents (as of the 2000 U.S. census). Gary had one of the nation’s first African-American mayors, Richard G. Hatcher, and hosted the ground-breaking 1972 National Black Political Convention. At the same time, Gary suffered from many affluent and middle-class residents leaving Gary and relocating to the surrounding towns and cities.
Levon, Marion is where Indianapolis is.
I assure you, Lake should be closer.
Faith. Have faith. Then have a drink. And Harold Fucking Ford park my car.
CBS would not call this unless they knew something. after all this time.
Ok let’s not doom and gloom the board guys.
Ann, we’ll see. Hasn’t Hillary been polling well in NW indiana?
+ the Rev Wright coverage…..
The other problem is take a look at some of the other big counties still reporting per that link admin posted. They are going to BO.
From CBS news:
Obama’s win mirrored earlier triumphs in Southern states with large black populations: Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and South Carolina among them. With 53 percent of the votes in North Carolina being reported, Obama was leading Clinton 56 percent to 42 percent.
That says it all.
A win’s a win in IN. And it will push her momentum.
Once we figure how how BO’s dirty tricks messed all this up, she is going to be looking a whole lot better.
What is Lanny saying?
soooo……who is the main player that decides when it is a win?
She is within 12 % in NC, according the elections board link. I wouldn’t trust CBS.
yes, cool it everyone. you are driving me nuts with your pessimism. We will take IN. NC, well let’s just wait and see.
HillGuy – I agree. No matter what happens, it’s the superdelegates who matter at this point, and the huge victories in WY and Kentucky. There’s more crap to pop up about Obama between now and August, I’m sure of it.
Why would she drop out before the convention with so much still to be known about Barack? Let’s say she drops out and he has a complete meltdown over the long hot summer before our very late convention. Then where do we turn? Does she come back in? How does that work?
we’re now down to three counties – two in the nw part of Indiana and 1 on the Ohio state borderline
I love Lanny….he says it as it is.
also the southern part of Indiana looks good – itll help with Kentucky
This is from the Clinton campaign:
Clinton’s Mo Elleithee: “We’re pumped. Senator Obama called this the tie-breaker, and it’s looking very strong for us. We started way behind in both states and made up significant ground tonight. Momentum is clearly on our side, and we’re going to take that momentum to West Virginia, Kentucky, and the remaining states.”
Clinton’s Jay Carson: “We have won the state that Sen. Obama said was a tie-breaker and we’ve won the swing voters Democrats need to win in a general and it’s on to the May contests and beyond.”
Percent Votes
Hillary Clinton (DEM) 42.85% 540,775
Mike Gravel (DEM) 0.80% 10,036
Barack Obama (DEM) 54.89% 692,822
No Preference (DEM) 1.47% 18,512
1,262,145
What is Lanny saying?
What did Lanny say? WTH happened to this board? Chin up y’all.
What’s Lanny said? Not in the mood to watch the TV news, I had enough earlier today..
for NC. right now, she is within 12%
FWIW, her margin in IN is now back up to almost 40,000.
LaPorte is Hillary’s by 4%
LaPorte is going for hill barely
Yes La porte is splitting even
Clinton’s Jay Carson: “We have won the state that Sen. Obama said was a tie-breaker and we’ve won the swing voters Democrats need to win in a general and it’s on to the May contests and beyond.”
YES YES YES
Hillary got Laporte, In county! with 51 percent reporting
still waiting on Lake county but if you look at all the surronding counties its all going Hillary
she is taking laprote very close though come on hill
If LaPorte can go even more strongly for Hill and Union County comes out in full force, we might be able to offset Lake County if necessary.
I think Hillary’s campaign will come out aggressively tomorrow to highlight the true facts of the voting tonight. I don’t think she will give an inch—she will go onward to Kentucky and West Virginia and keep up the campaign.
Although our battle may seem uphill, at some point we will reach the other side of the goal line. We need to hang in there…
talked about MI and FL and how BO is trying to change the rules….I did not hear the first part as I am not watching cnn much. I got the feeling they were trashing hillary for tryin to change the rules and Lanny told them NO it is Obama that is changing the rules.
Anyone else see it. I changed the channel after he stopped as I cannot watch cnn at all.
This is a nail biter.
there’s still two counties – Union and Lake
I will donate to her again tomorrow. Not on a good computer tonight.
That Bellweather county, Howard County, Hillary is winning with 73%
ok, only 11% of the laporte pop. is AA though…
she is gonna beat him hopefully in his backyard and opfrahs..thats should be the talk right there..not no north carolina
He was supposed to take Laporte strongly, King said that
They made up the “rules” about FL and MI last winter, ad hoc. And now they’re acting as if they were the Ten Commandments.
Someone needs to pass out the DNC Rules and Regulations. The Rules Committee f*cked up by stripping FL and MI of all delegates. The rules allow for 1/2. They went beyond, what the rules called for.
lake county seems tailor made for Bwak. It’s the 31st richest county in the USA.
Hey this means only upward in indiana guys!
I have invested my time, money, and energy in Hillary Clinton. I expect her to see this thing through to the end. I will be very angry if she does not.
racial makeup of Lake County, Indiana:
the racial makeup of the county was 80.11% White, 6.94% Black or African American, 0.28% Native American, 3.90% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 6.72% from other races, and 2.01% from two or more races.
who decides the projected winner?
ABC News also noting that the AA vote is responsible for the NC win. His win of NC ain’t all that grand once the demos get broken down.
^^ o nvm, that’s an old census.
the newer 2005 census shows that the pop there is 68.8% white, about 18.2% latino and only 7% AA.
oh shoot. nvm, forget everything I said.
cnn is full of it.
^^ sorry, wrong lake county guys, here is the actual info:
According to 2005 Census estimates 58.6% of Lake County’s population was non-Hispanic whites, 26.2% African-American, 13.7% Latino and 1.0% Asian.[5] In 2000 there were 181,633 households out of which 32.80% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 48.70% were married couples living together, 16.60% had a female householder with no husband present, and 30.10% were non-families. 25.80% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.60% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.64 and the average family size was 3.19.
even brett hume is wondering about that gary in it looks suspicious..lake county last always..why
Lake county will not report any totals until they finish counting the 11, 000 absentee ballots and say it may be midnight before they release numbers.
Bwak is intentionally playing games with lake county.
the rurals must not have come out as big for her as we thoguht they would. every poll had her up big here. 60 of nc’s counties not counted according to the state site.
t4h, I read that rural turnout wasn’t great there.
Can someone please post the latest NC numbers?
rick, she’s not going to drop out. She knows that BO can’t win and she’s our only hope. She’s going to try and save these isidots from their own stupidity whether they like it or not.
nc-55-o-43h
That’s weird. Everywhere else she had great rural turnout. What happened?
Seems to me BO’s supporters are trying to put off reporting lake county as late as possible. Hill will be speaking soon, they just said.
If Hillary’s campaign released a statement that they won IN, then obviously they did. Obama’s trying to drag this out to prevent her from claiming a win before everyone goes to bed.
according to Fox its 56-42 with 79 reporting but on NC state primary returns its 55-43
Clintondem99
Agreed, as I said before, this is very suspicious. Hillary has won IN (or her campaign staff wouldn’t have said what they said) but the tactics of Lake County delays the networks from calling IN for her and makes it seem like she just ekes out the win. How dare BO say that he is running a positive campaign yet his supporters pull this nonsense. I will never vote for BO–and I have never voted for any other candidate but a Democrat my entire life–and this is an example of why. His supporters are bad news!
That, and he is grossly inexperienced and not up to the job.
How he is dragging this out?
Do you have the link to the state results?
More of a reason to never vote for him.
CNN- Lanny just told Donna Brazille that “WE” are going to convention!!
The resolution is go to convention donna.
i think terry m should be calling lake county or someone or all of us democrats and get those votes reported now..took the prime time spot from her is what he did the jerk creep..
Does IN have a state results page like NC does?
CNN- Donna asking Lanny to fight in the green room and fight.
hillary will win IN.
don’t worry guys. even Bob Beckel said it and Lake County is probably going to be going to Hillary, that’s why the BamBam campaign is using what influence they have to delay it.
This is not a difficult situation tonight…..hillary won Indiana where bo was supposed to…See how the media is spinning this loss of bo?
someone needs to give Donna Brazille a slap of reality.
dedfg, He asked to have Lake Co. polls stay open later; he pulled the same stunt in OH.
Thanks Paula. How does he get away with this stuff.
HRC INDIANA ACCEPTANCE SPEECH NOw on cnn.
evan bayh tALKING NOW,
GO wATCH,
Go Lanny!
I’d like to give Donna more than a slap, my Hummer was made to roll over large objects.
It seems like some here are buying into the media/Obama camp spin. If she takes IN by whatever percentage, it is big trouble for Obambi. This is a big night for Hillary. It proves once and for all that his Achilles heel is middle-class white voters. What real victory can he claim in taking NC?
Hillary will win KY and WVA, and is picking up speed in OR.
With IN, she is in the driver’s seat. Hence the spin. It’s just damage control from the other side. Please, Hillary deserves better than having her own people lose heart. Ignore the media; let’s move on to the next states. No one said it was going to be easy.
Please no violent language, that bothers me and I had to say that.
What paddy said.
agreed Paddy.
+ NC is looking amazing. Obama had a 30% advantage before polls were even closed simply because 90% of AA’s were voting for him. Hillary obviously got a larger white vote to whittle that down to 14%, and the margin will only shrink with the night.
I hate those Biotches on CNN. Somebody please let us know when Hill is on. I’d rather watch water drop from a faucet than to watch these freaks.
I second what paddy said!!
fox says clinton camp thinks fraud in gary is possible
wagner, please none of that. While I think Brazille is a silly woman, that is not nice to say of anyone.
Exactly and by constantly stating that this is a HUGE loss for obama has impact. We need to constantly be supporting Hillary.
She doesnt look happy
turn to fox
Yes, that’s a really obnoxious set on CNN. I’m glad I don’t watch
“Too early to call” IN. That’s a new spin.
Hillary – smart choice on cnn now.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was fraud.
Admin, here is a suggestion for tomorrow’s by-line: OBAMA CAN’T CLOSE THE DEAL
Hillary just repeated exactly what I posted here earlier
justmein, Hillary?
yes, fox is better, ignore cnn.
yes – Hill and isnt it unusual that both Clinton and Chelsea is on stage with Hillary
You’re right Paddy, Obama has proven time after time he cannot close the deal!
Look to the right of Hillary. There is that aa male, with the boxing gloves. Remember Philly?
YES WE WILL! YES WE WILL!!! YES WE WILL!!!
Dang she looks gorgeous tonight
She will keep on truckin
I really love her
but why is the enthusiasm different tonight then in Philadelphia?
She does look fantastic!
something is NOT right – look at Chelsea and Bill!
and did she ask for money?
I find it quite enthusiatic.
She asks every time
Everything is right…..what are you going on about just?
I don’t see anything wrong.
Just wanted to let people here know that there were two factual errors in the post which I linked to shortly ago. One was a minor point, the other a more important point. Both have been corrected.
I should also say that I just emailed Adam Nagourney from the NYT about his incorrect analysis on what the results show from tonight. I do hope he takes a look at what I wrote and revises his faulty conclusion. He is a good writer but he has taken one too many sips of the Kool Aid, it seems.
Can we PLEASE count Gary, IN now?
look at Chelsea and Bill they look like they are going to cry I dont know remmy me deaf so I dont hear but am more into body language
you are trying so hard justme to bring this down….why?
JustMein, I just think they had hoped they could win NC. I don’t think they look significantly bummed..
I am enthused that she won the tie-breaker
Bill looks like he loves her. That’s all I see.
Can’t see Chelsea.
Chelsea loves her, too.
listening to Hillary makes me realize how selfish and childish Obama is.
I really wish she would stand up to has fraud, why doesnt’ she call him out on it. I do think Chelsea is looking like she is on the verge of crying.
dedfg, you could add arrogant to that list.
SactoDem, I agree. Inspite of all his claims Bo never ran a positive campaign. I am in the same quandary as you are I have always voted for a Democrat.
Hillary is just so good….
Obama is a bum and this should inspire us to work harder for Hill. I have noticed that Admin and the posters on this board have done a great job supporting our girl. It ain’t over yet. We must continue to work hard and fight for Hill as she will work hard and fight for us. That women is phenominal.
count those votes…..lol
Does anyone have the link to the official results in NC?
I have noticed that Admin and the posters on this board have done a great job supporting our girl.
You are so right!
im glad her supporters count there votes we need that right in deans face and db..
(Cheer up, guys!! Hillary won IN. The tie breaker. We still got this.)
DJIA-
I’d love to help campaign in SD. I live in Sioux City, so I’m assuming you live around there.
Hopefully you see this post!
never give up guys. Hillary is going to be the nominee. Envision her debating mcCain! Now THAT will be fun!
I like the chant…count those votes….count those votes!
Who’s confirmed Indiana
I though CBS confirmed?
turn off cnn…..doom and gloom time.
adkriech599 Says:
May 6th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
(Cheer up, guys!! Hillary won IN. The tie breaker. We still got this.)
DJIA-
I’d love to help campaign in SD. I live in Sioux City, so I’m assuming you live around there.
Hopefully you see this post!
********************************
I am here! we will be living close soon! I am moving near vermillion,Sd so somewhere with in 30 miles of it
wasnt her speech shorter then normal? Im sorry if I sound like a downer I just feel kinda let down
From the Associated Press:
“Hillary Rodham Clinton lost her last best chance to score an upset on Barack Obama’s turf Tuesday, putting the Illinois senator a step closer to becoming the country’s first black presidential nominee. (Snip) Obama’s victory there was tempered by the fact that Clinton beat him handily among white voters, extending her argument to superdelegates who will decide the nomination that she will be the stronger general-election candidate.”
There’s tomorrow’s talking point. At least the print media isn’t afraid to tell the truth.
BTW, there’s a big difference between wanting something and doing something. I want to walk on the moon some day, but I never will. Damn.
adkriech, forgot to add that i live up by lake okoboji right now, but hubby took a job as a GM in vermillion and so he is out there now
You know journalists, the media could be reading this board and getting ideas …. I am happy she won Indiana…it was supposed to be the big tie-breaker!
and bo face count those votes these supporters knows what going on for sure..yep hillary said 48 states that isnt right we need all 50..
Obama cant close the deal or seal it
she is so strong and happy
Djia-
Sweet!! I’m excited! Drop me a line sometime at adkriech599@yahoo.com. Hopefully we could start chatting or something so we won’t be total strangers when it comes time to campaign.
Moving away from the media spin, what can tonight’s results tell us about the current state of this contest? In NC, he wins a higher percentage of AA and she gets more of the white vote than in previous southern black belt states. He lost the white vote in IN. So more polarization between whites and blacks and his declining credibility among white voters. The SDs are going to give this some serious consideration. Since they will decide the nomination, it is their perceptions that matter the most.
I think everyone agrees, either openly or secretly, with her win in IN, cemented by further gains in the next couple of weeks, she will have the best suit of cards to play with regards to the Supers. Don’t think for a minute the Supers pay that much attention to the media. They are in the politics business and they know how the media works. And they know by now that the media is biased towards Obama. So they will discount most of what it says.
We are providing Hillary with the critical wins she needs to win.
hi hillfans, i have to admit a tough ass night. i wish lake county can get off their assses and report the damn numbers. hell, the polls closed there before nc and they surpassed the votes counted.
adkriech…….sounds good!
I’ll do that!
What the fuck happened to SUSA again, they were off by 4 in PA and now off by 8 here.
Brazille got called out on CNN tonight by of all people Campbell Brown:
BROWN: Hold on. I want to ask Donna something. Hold on. I want to ask Donna something because you have been on these panels time and time again with us as an undecided voter, and you sound very much –
BRAZILE: I’m not undecided.
BROWN: Uncommitted?
BRAZILE: I’m undeclared.
BROWN: Undeclared. There you go. Well it sounds very much — Hey, no —
BRAZILE: Words matter.
BROWN: Words matter. It sounds very much to me tonight like you have made up your mind.
BRAZILE: No. It sounds like I am ready to unify my party. I’m ready to bring the party back together and I’m sick and tired of hearing people say my party, my party. This is the Democratic Party. We have stood through thick and thin and I’m sick of the divisions. That’s all I’m saying.
I’m not saying that this is about — I think Hillary is a fabulous candidate and she is doing a remarkable job in the closing days of this Campaign. But Barack Obama’s also a great candidate and I respect John McCain’s service. Now what does that make me?
justme,
Tears can come from love and pride — and relief and joy.
I heard that too admin….I laughed when I heard it.
moon…..fraud happened
1950democrat – I agree it does – I just have a negative feeling – maybe its just me being disappointed – I know we will do well in West Virginia but I just hope she comes out strong – tonight was really a nail biter but I’m not sure you know
terrondt : This is supposed to be Hillary’s night because she won Indiana…bo was expected all along to win NC…..the problem is the media spun an obvious and expected win as if it was a great victory.
The bottom line is that she beat Obama in a state that could have gone either way. She was down and she rose above and won it.
brazilla, can kiss my arse!
she is not undeclared……words do matter and we all could throw her words back at her
The funny thing is that Obama has won by exactly the same amount in NC that Hillary did in PA, 215,000. They cancelled each other out.
So hopefully the gains in Indiana and WV and Kentucky will lift that vote up.
That’s the problem with polls. The only real poll is the votes, and sometimes I worry that all the discussion of polls ends up depressing turnout.
And turnout is what it’s all about.
djia: moon…..fraud happened
I am with you….how come the numbers on cnn for IN have not changed hardly in the last hour?
justme,
Tears can come from love and pride — and relief and joy. The tie-breaker state is won. The hardest contests are over. Maybe they’re glad it will be easier from now on.
Ok guys its very encouraging that Hillary has won all the counties in that top NW corner bordering illinois.
Well, being as that Campbell Brown is the most impartial, hard-knuckled, professional journalist ever, this is not surprising. She’s just doing her JOB!
when will cnn declare her the winner?
The Test is Indiana, who ever wins Indiana will Clinch the Nomination (so says the messiah Obama, and I think his wife said it too).
Even with suspected Faud, Senator Clinton wins IN.
Even not campaigning in Guam, Senator Clinton loses by only 7 votes.
She closed his 30% win in NC to 12% and still going down.
Although he takes a large % of the AA, he cannot close the Deal with the other Demographics.
There are no Caucuses in the GE, and the whole country votes on one day.
The Democratic Party IQ has gone down if they do not see who can win in Nov 2008.
so basically e are back to square one-e lost 200,000 votes in nc so now must gain them plus way more to get the pop vote?
“Even with suspected Faud, Senator Clinton wins IN”
Not only that, but with what BO spending 3 times as much as her? still can’t close the deal…
If Brazille truly wanted to have a united democratic party, she would not have used draconian measures, when she and other committee members decided to strip FL of ALL their delegates. The rules allow for 50%, not 100%. She is lying through her teeth. It was a set-up for waffles.
Since when, are absentee ballots counted before results are released? This smells very, very fishy and dirty; especially, since this county is next door to the infamous Chicago, which is known for voter fraud.
Don’t get cocky yet guys, that one county disturbs me.
Guys we need to start having a HEAD start with WEST VIRGINIA – its only 7 days from today that they vote so let’s start working hard to ensure WEST VIRGINIA GOES BIG FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A poster on the official Hillary blog said it’s mathematically impossible for Obama to win IN at this point. I hope that poster is right!
admin,
lead next thread with clip of Obama saying a few weeks ago that Indiana would be the tie breaker for the nomination
hEARD bRAZILE EARLY ON CNN SAY THAT DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAD EXPANDED THEIR BASE, AND IT WASN’T JUST WORKING CLASS ANYMORE – AGAIN, KICKING WHITE AMERICA TO THE CURB. THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL, AND I’M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND OUR FELLOW AA HRC SUPPORTERS, BUT WITH THE AA DEMOGRAPHICS 90+% FOR bho, I THINK IT’S TIME TO HAVE A “WHITE UNITE FOR HILLARY” UNDER THE RADARE, AT ANY RATE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY THE AA IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THREATS OF RIOTING AT THE CONVENTION. WE ALL BELIEVE HE IS RAISING ZILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM OVERSEAS (DIRTY MONEY) AND SHE HAS DONE AMAZINGLY WELL CONSIDERING THE DNC IS AGAINST HER, THE BIG MEDIA BLASTS HER, AND SHW IS RUNNING AGAINST HOME-GROWN TERRORISM. I’M READY TO CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT.
BHO IS A DANGEROUS ANTI-AMERICAN WITH TERRORIST TIES, INEXPERIENCED, POOR SENATE RECORD. THAT’S IT. WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT THERE BIG TIME THAT WE WHITES WILL NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORT HIM AND MAKE OUR CASE GO PRIME TIME. IT’S BEYOND RACE – IT’S TERRORISM AND ANTI-AMERICANISM, AND WE’RE TIRED OF THE WELL-HEELED LATTE’S AND NATION OF ISLAM-TYPES HIJACKING OUR PARTY.
jen, it’s still possible.
Comment from NoQuarter that caught my eye:
Donna Brazile said on CNN tonight that the Democratic Party is changing and “we” don’t need the votes of working class people anymore. She stated the Party is younger and more educated and that is the New Democratic Party.
It will be on You Tube soon I’m sure. It was a radical statement.”
Also this news tidbit:
Fox said today that Hillary is forcing a Rules Challenge this month.
DEFEND=OFFEND RADARE=RADAR SHW=SHE
speaking of fraud, you know, you have to wonder why BO was so confident to say this would be a tie breaker……
Yeah Brazille put her foot in it tonight. Sorry but it was telling, the elitists and black factions have taken over the Democratic party, they think they dont need the hispanics and white blue collars.
What a bitch i thought when she said that.
The results seem to be very consistent as NC was always going to go his way and Indiana was going to be close. The reason for some disappointment, imo, is that we all probably unrealistically thought she would pull within single digits in NC and secondly, it is taking forever to declare her the victor in Indiana which is exhausting to all of us. As many previously posted, the early victor sort of carries the news cycle , particularly here, where we won’t have a definitive answer to after midnight.
In the end, Hillary did what she needed to do by winning Indiana. I also think she is being very classy about unifying the party, but many like me, I suspect, will simply never be able to support a nominee so unqualaified as Mr. Obama.
As for the challenge in the Rules Committee (meets May 31), apparently we have 50+% there so all it needs is guts, er, cajones.
See riverdaughter.confluence; there was a piece on HufPo by Edsall but riverdaughter takes the parts worh reading and has better comments.
Also see Craig Crawford: h t t p : / / blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/where-the-dem-rules-really-lea.html
By the DNC rules, in Florida Hillary should get half her delegates and Obama NONE, because he broke the no-campaigning pledge.
MOONONPLUTO:
WHO APPOINTED BRAZILE, DEAN AND PELOSI GOD? ATHEIST BILL AYERS? HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY ANTI-CHRISTS IN ONE SENTENCE. BRAZILE, IN ESSENCE, AGAIN SAID THE WORKING CLASS IS INCONSEQUENTIAL. THE REPUBLICANS LOOK AFTER THE WEALTHY. SO WHERE THE HELL DO THE REST OF US GO?
If we win HUGE in WV, it will look great. Let’s win WV by 20+ % people. It looks good. Lower AA vote, more lowerclass/working class white votes, union voters, women voters, conservative dems, we can do this. WV needs to be huge, and if it is, it will carry us into KY in a bigger way than is expected. Let’s wipe the mat with him in West Virginia.
SO WHY CANNOT OBAMA CLOSE THE DEAL?????
hawk, I agree with you, let’s start working hard for West Virginia, lets bring in a lot of money for Hillary so she can campaign hard in WV, KY, OR and the rest. I think if she pulls a big win there she should be able to do well in the coming states. Don’t wait until the last minute but START NOW!
So, what does Donna Brazille think the other 50% of the democratic party is? I guess, older adults, white voters, latinos, working class people, and seniors are chopped liver? What an arrogant statement on her part. She just threw all of Hillary supporters (the other 50% of the democratic party) under the bus. I’ll take my vote, hold my nose, and vote for McCain in the Fall.
“Donna Brazile said on CNN tonight that the Democratic Party is changing and “we” don’t need the votes of working class people anymore. She stated the Party is younger and more educated and that is the New Democratic Party.”
The rise of the neo-libs: made wealthy from globalization, highly educated, white, elitist, a left-wing version of the neo-cons.
She is publicly admitting their existence for the first time. This is a war for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.
From April:
“You know, Sen. Clinton is more favored in Pennsylvania and I’m right now a little more favored in North Carolina, so Indiana right now may end up being the tiebreaker. So we want to work very hard in Indiana.”
Never thought I would be a McCain swing voter- gay, Latino, college student, poor, university democrats executive board member- but I may have to. 4 years of McCain for 8 years of Hillary.
Paddy: that’s quite a statement that Donna made
gay latino college student, stop it,sounds fun, hehe.
hawk
I can relate to you! its so frustrating! but we want to work hard for HILLARY! SHE WILL DO WELL IN WEST VIRGINIA – we just have to work hard
are we waiting on mail in voters and are those the one that support hill the most?
Hawk me neither, pure democrat, gay, half irish, middle aged voter voting for McCain if that SOB gets it.
gay and pink, hmm something in common
How does she think the Dems can win a general election without the middle class?
why is everyone holding onto just Lake county theres another county – Union
No idea, does she magically think 50% of democratic voters in 50 states will suddenly turn into AA’s before november.
She’s apparently completely forgotten Reagan, and 1984 (and I don’t mean the novel).
I won’t vote for Obama. I know AA feel a connection to Obama but he’s unelectable.
nc says that the economy is the most important issue! Really? Well those must of have been Hillary supporters!
Union has about 7291 people in it
union is tiny, lake county is 8% of the state population.
Lol, people don’t think we will swing us Latinos….we will.
Well, if after the credentials fight he ends up as the nominee we just have to make sure he loses like the dems did in ‘72 and ‘84 so his national political career will be over for good.
we need a video ad for us clinton supporters who will not vote obama,
and that we are “mad as hell” at the party throwing us under the bus!
those of you that make videos on you tube………get to work!
latino’s will go republican very easily , they have done before. Thats why California is a problem and the Dems seem to be taking it for granted.
Its getting closer and closer that I will become a republican. I will never throw this country away on the black liberation movement. I used to work in the prisons of Texas and the Moslems have been working those prisons for a long time converting Christian black men. I personally believe this is an assault on America by Islamic fundamentalist and helped by the idiots like Ayers!
West Virginia next week??? To start now commenting in local papers, the list is up at
h t t p : / / http://www.ironmyvote.com/comment-local-papers.htm
And McCain has unusually high cross-over appeal — he was always a very dangerous opponent for Dems.
So I guess the so-called New Democratic Party (NDP) as envisioned by Dean & CO, will bring together the neo-libs, AAs, radical upper middle class youth, and some old school (big government) liberals.
If the NDP becomes a reality, the Republicans will have in their tent, the white working class, religious conservatives, old school (small government) conservatives, pro-family Latinos and Catholics.
something with “not ready to make nice” by the dixie chicks would be perfect !
Forgot to say, if someone finds a lively thread in a local paper/online comment site, pls post the url here so others can join in. Also email it to me at 1950democrat /at/ gmail.com
Some of us have a hard time monitoring those sites but can come in easier if someone sends a link direct to the comment string, like hillaryresponders.com does for national papers/sites
confloyd, i have seen it up close, i am working and living in Turkey, the islamists have been trying to subvert here for years, it is happening big time in the uk, where i lived before and now they are at it in the US, thats why i dont trust Obama and people can’t see whats going on through the pie in the sky.
Call the DNC tomorrow and demand that Ms. Brazille resign from her position with the DNC. Now I see how she managed to screw up Gore’s 2000 campaign. What an ignorant, angry bitch. Wake up America, we’re being taken hostage by the PC police. Don’t they realize this will cause blowback? You can’t always get your way by holding your breath and stomping your feet and having Al Sharpton threaten the public. They will silently shut you out. Again. Back to the Nixon era.
NDP, almosts sounds like the NBPP, this is getting real scarey. Financially I am fine but what about the rest of the poor people? Hillary will not let us down, she will fight behind the scenes so as not to break the party up totally!
fuck, only 20K ahead now, the theft is in folks.
now 51 to 49
WTF?!?!?!?!? its not 51-49 H barely squeaking by with Lake now reporting in (28 percent reporting)
why did it take so long in lake county?
Holy shit. Two percent Indiana…leading.
Marino County still not finished, no reports from Union County!
….and isn’t it interesting they knew to wait to declare until this county?
Sorry I couldn’t be here earlier for a little bucking up guys.
Nothing to feel bad about IN THE LEAST should she hold on in Bucks Co.
Fucking insanity on the airwaves, talk that BO closed the deal?!?!
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE.
I DID NOT hear that in Hill’s speech AT ALL.
Lake Co….75% Obama 25 % Clinton
i knew it, they are going to steal it.
I think their was fraud….
Moonpluto, how can any normal American vote for this man? He is a danger to national security. I expect sometime Hillary should blow this man’s cover even if it costs her her career. We must stop him from taking over, legally of coarse, no tactics like his. We are above that kind of corruption!
think about it…..how arrogant BO was to say it was a tie breaker….there was fraud
So then, where are the women voters? Is it back to the old divide and rule game that we have now? I feel this is the last chance for the Democrats. There is no meaningful place in the NDP for women, just as passive supporters.
We should give this some serious thought. Which party, if either, will best represent our interests? Should there be a Third Party for women?
wagner1, that’s a good point about the 2000 election.
If she is this messed up about what a winning coalition looks like, no wonder Gore didn’t win enough to make FL irrelevant.
paddy: when are women going to speak up for themselves?
paddyforhill, yes it is time for a party of the people, these two have shown their arsh’s tonight. He is such a cheater. OMG, is he ahead now!!
CNN, turn it on.
Those communist mf’s have thrown this election just like Guam. Bully terrorists. This is corruption at it’s worst. Even Bob Beckel said they were crooked and Chicago-style politics going on. “How much do you need (votes)?” is how it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS GOD AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even CNN doesnt believe, they know somethings fishy.
Awkward……this is not right. It is sooo cose to Chicago….dirty shady politics, I wonder if anyone dead voted for Obama?
Hammond Mayor said Hillary won his city by about 500 votes and the count was turned in at 7:30
I bet half of cook county was in lake county today.
did you see CNN – the Mayor of Hammond – a supporter of Hillary said he and other mayors of towns in that county of Lake already turned the votes in at 730 and the absentees were already voted but its being held back by the lake county government
i bet stuffing boxes and switching was in full force.
It would be absolutely great if there was voter fraud. That would spell the end of Obama. We should have been volunteering for his campaign in NE IN. I would have particularly liked doing the GOTV at the graveyards.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/6/235033/7074
“In March, Clay predicted the race would come down to Gary, telling the Northwest Indiana and Illinois Times that tonight on CNN, “They are going to point at Indiana and say Hillary Clinton is leading by one point but Gary ain’t come in yet.”
What is going on here?? Check out this story on TalkLeft
paddy: there was fraud. no matter how they spin this.
Most of the vote from gary should be in since CNN is saying that the 28% total from lake county is from Gary
URGENT. There is reportedly a video somewhere, referred to on TM of OBAMA POLItICKING at polling stations in Lake County. We MUST get this. FDRJim has already contacted the county. PLEASE HELP. It appears they might be pulling a Florida 2000. We need to FIND THAT VIDEO NOW or other proof this is being done.
Norma is correct. We need that footage if it exists.
“Remember Lake County,” AKA “Cook County,” IL.
This smells very bad.
MSNBC Russert said Hillary cancelled all of her morning appearances tomorrow, true or not? is this troubling?
M. Barone on FOX suggesting if rest of outstanding county is similar to earlier IND results BO won’t have enough.
Hey, did the website go down for a few minutes for anyone else? I think the site traffic went way up tonight!
PLEASE SEARCH LAKE COUNTY INFO AND ANYTHING ON TM
He will pursue this. Be assured. This stinks. Obamas new politics? And NO paper trail?
and the wolves are out as never before.
Rove saying it effectively is over.
Bill & Hill know better.
FUCK THEM ALL!
hallow, it’s been AGES since I could sign on and I keep getting kicked off from busy server
Rove wants Hussein, he has said this before.
I have already emailed Limbaugh about Lake County. I’m sure he’s already revising his Cook County, IL speech as we speak.
Chicago Politics, folks. These guys are pros at fraud.
Oh, and I should let you guys know that a Chicago law firm who has or had two of its members tied up with Rezko and contributions to Obama was spending an awful lot of time looking at my site yesterday. That’s all I’m going to say for now.
Looks like some people are getting nervous.
Maybe nervous enough to ‘make things happen’ in Lake County, Chicago-style.
We’ll see.
I’ve decided today that no matter what, I’m switching my party affiliation to Republican from Democratic. The reasons are simple. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and all of the other power-hungry democratic latte liberals in the DNC hate the Clintons. They hate the Clinton years and they hate the scandals and are willing to give anything and do anything to take the nomination away from Hillary. Hence, the refusal to count Michigan or Florida or have revotes, and the support of a 1-year- freshman senator with no notable accomplishments, record of bi-partisan work, or serious leadership history by party hacks like fat Ted Kennedy and horse-faced John Kerry.
It’s these same hacks who voted against Universal Healthcare in the first place to destroy the dream of Harry Truman and a possible additional accomplishment of Hillary, and who are constantly calling for her to drop out, even since New Hampshire. I will support Hillary Clinton to the death, but I will never let my finger support that greasy, dirty, lying, foolish, incompetent, and corrupt Senator Obama who unfortunately represents my current state of Illinois. He has told to many lies, had too many contradictions, and played too many instances of TRUE dirty Chicago-style politics for me to even consider voting for him over Senator John McCain who I find at most half-as-horrible as the vile empty-suit that is currently the democratic frontrunner.
If Barack Obama is to win the democratic nomination, I, and many of my family and friends and people that I have called, will deliver Senator McCain a thing only of dreams: a unanimous sweeping Republican victory in November.
I can stand 4 more years of Bush-like politics, though I admit I don’t want to. What I won’t be able to stand, however, is a politician as corrupt, self-serving, conniving, lying, and america-hating as Senator Barack Hussein Obama sitting in the Oval Office and I will use 150% of my heart to make sure this dangerous man does not EVER be put into the position to lead our Great Nation.
Please join me today and sending a message to the corrupt and self-serving officials, including Senator Obama, at the Democratic Nation Comittee. A message that we will not take their lies and their backroom corruption anymore and should they nominate Senator Barack Hussein Obama, we would vote for the terrible Bush-policies over the frightening prospects of this man in the White House any day, any time, any year.
Democracy at its finest is when it is played fairly with no personal vendettas, and when the TRULY qualified individuals ascend to prominence. Sadly, none of these qualities can be said of Senator Barack Obama or the democratic party as a whole.
dang it!!!!!!!
I keep getting that “suspended account” message!!! arrrrggghhh
MJS, you are not alone. I am considering the same thing, and there are a large number of others who feel the same way.
Let’s get this straight:
Obama won another Black Belt state in North Carolina which will be going GOP in November. That joins the list with AL, MS, LA, GA…
He got 90+% of the AA vote. AA’s make up but 11% of the general electorate. That’s it. So wins in places like NC, when properly put into context and with the backing of 90+% mean very little in November.
BHO may pull out IN, a state which neighbors IL and which has a significant amount of its populace receiving Obamavision from IL. And this is an ‘upset?’
Rove understands the score. He knows that this is Obama’s last big moment before WV, KY and PR, and he knows how damn easy it will be to beat him in the general. It’s time to pump up the patsy, and Rove knows it .
I hope her backers put up the money for a recount
I am having trouble on the site too. I think the brown shirts are trying to take down our site tonight. Long live the New Democratic Party!
This Mayor of gary is full of shit! I want the justice department to launch an investigation into lake county and gary
ok that’s like 6 times now in the last hour or so that i have been locked out of this site!
Maybe her year is 2012.
He might win by voter fraud! WV, KY, PR will help weaken him enough for McCain to win. I know I sound like a disloyal democrat but I think he has to be defeated.
Let me guess, the mayor of Gary is black?
Hillary won
Yay Hillary wins Indiana over the fraud of Lake County. What was wrong with the mayor of Gary?? You obviously don’t have the best people working if it takes 4 hours after the polls have closed to get results.
justme,
“MSNBC Russert said Hillary cancelled all of her morning appearances tomorrow, true or not?”
False.
She had previously scheduled no campaign events for Wednesday, as she is traveling to D.C. to meet with uncommitted Super Delegates.
She is back on the campaign trail on Thursday.
And then he tried to get an attitude with Wolf.
warehouse…….we need to keep faith in the clinton machine !
CNN just projected Hillary won Indiana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!
Funny how the Mayor of Hammond calls out the mayor of Gary and magically the votes all come in. It takes them 5 hours to get tallys from computers???? They were trying to rig it…
rjk1957, I agree! I think the mayor of Gary knew he got ‘caught with his pants down’ and suddently all the numbers comes through!
HILLARY!!!!!!!
Yes, I am sure we won by more than 20k votes. There has been fraud tonight. It’s ugly.
Jesus Christ, what a nail-biter.
Time for me to pony up again – last time I gave $200.44. If anyone wants to match me, I will do it again.
And fuck Donna Fucking Brazille.
Fox has projected IN for Hillary with more votes to come from 1 country!
hillary better not quit!
that gary mayor was dressed down bad! thank god hillary was projected winner!
As for the projected delegate counts Hillary 85, Obama 100 with 2 left to be decided. They can change a few either way when votes per congressional districts are finalized
now I can go and rest in peace for tonight
goodnight!
Here we go again. On to WV! Want to bet the goalposts will be re-set to OR?
It will be the REAL tiebreaker they will say now.
country=county
Y’all coming here for the last stand?
i am donating much more to hillary when my rebate arrives on friday.