The Checkered Flag

[Tonight – Hillary Clinton on David Letterman to do the Top Ten list (prepare for Obama whining – the topic is “top ten reasons for loving the USA.”]

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As we all make our last phones calls for Hillary Clinton this day before voting starts in Indiana and North Carolina let’s remember what Barack Obama said a very short while ago.

Just before Barack Obama suffered his humiliating loss in Pennsylvania, Obama said Indiana would be the “tiebreaker”.

“I think Indiana is very important,” Obama said. “We’ve got three contests coming up in pretty big states — Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana. They all have significant numbers of delegates, and they are states where Sen. Clinton and I are actively campaigning.”

“You know, Sen. Clinton is more favored in Pennsylvania,” he added, “and I’m right now a little more favored in North Carolina, so Indiana right now may end up being the tiebreaker. So we want to work very hard in Indiana. While Sen. Clinton has some advantages here, I benefit coming from an adjoining state.”

Of course Obama also thought he would win Guam by 11%.

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One of the big reasons why Obama will lose a general election is that Obama has focused his pillow talk appeal to editorial board economic elites. Obama believes that “bitter” Americans cling to their gasoline, god and guns.

Hillary has focused her policies on the needs of working class Americans.

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Economic elites disdain gasoline consuming NASCAR voters – which is why Democrats lose so many elections. Today Hillary Clinton made headlines in the Auto Racing Daily when Sarah Fisher endorsed Hillary Clinton.

We need a president who will stand up for us and be a fighter for Hoosiers and all Americans,” said Fisher, who will attempt to qualify for her seventh Indianapolis 500 this May 2008. “Senator Clinton will be a president who steers our country in the right direction and puts our economy back on track. Something Senator Clinton and I have in common is our commitment to achieving our goals, leaving roadblocks behind, refusing to be knocked down. Senator Clinton is a doer and a fighter who keeps getting out there, going for the checkered flag.”

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294 thoughts on “The Checkered Flag

  1. hey everyone! THANKS ADMIN for the great post – if you ever need help, let me know!

  2. I don’t think I have ever been first. I really enjoy this site and the intelligence of all who speak here. Go Hillary. Here’s looking for a good result tomorrow and beyond.

  3. GO Hillary GO!!!
    OUR NEXT President!!!!!!!

    NO OBAMA let him be friends with radicals he likes them very much,ones who like stomping OUR FLAG
    THis guy ayers should not be teaching in a SCHOOL!!!and Obama Likes REV wrong he just wont admit it!!! he lies lies lies..he wont say nothing because there on his side!!!SO they can run the country OBama isnt and wont be he will be taking orderes from wright ayers rezko!!! and MO is to angry of a person..she doent like OUR COuntry!!
    Until she was an adult ..omg go home Obama’s

  4. did anyone see how Obama campaigned at a senior citizen place he looked so out of touch – he should be sitting down and consoling them instead if this ‘holier than thou’ attitude – if Hillary was there she’d be sitting with them talking with them laughing with them and smiling hugging etc

  5. GO, HILLARY, GO! HILLARY WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!
    Reposted from last thread:
    Birdgal – wonderful!
    Marie – yet another troubling godfather for Stinky-boy. Do we hear five?
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Jeremiah Wright
    William Ayers
    Tony Rezko
    ???

  6. Another thing thats interesting –

    we tend to call Hillary by her first name – HIL ER RAY! HILLARY! HILLARY!

    but….

    with Obama we call him by his last name – why not BARACK BARACK – is he entitled?

  7. Obama’s elitism will ultimately do him in — to quote Al Sharpton’s quip about Obama, “not too many of us grew up in Hawaii and went to Harvard.”

  8. Berkeley – right, ….and Michelle.
    Interesting about Oprah knowing to dump Wright – hope that gets traction.
    Tom Hanks endorsed and said that BHO has taken the “high road?” Is he kidding?

    The race card
    The race card
    wah, wah, wah!
    the race card
    the race card
    wah, wah, wah!
    gas tax = pander
    lies about Hillary’s health care plan, Hillary’s energy plan – he’s shameless

    Vote:
    Gretawire.com

  9. Has Hillary ever opposed higher fuel efficiency standards??? Why is he spewing these lies as if he is the only person with an energy policy.

  10. Can you imagine Obama= President, Jessie Jackson= Secretary of State, Al Sharpton= Hud Secretary, Rev Wright=White House Chaplain, Rezko= Attorney General, Ayres=Secretary of Defense (Angry Black Woman) Michelle=1st Lady, Frank Marshall Davis=ambasador to Iraq.
    Hell no
    No Way
    Hillary44 2008

    Just keep thinking of this nightmare ooops I mean picture.

  11. jr/birdgal, his excuse then will be, “oh there goes the same old washington politics!” lol Im cracking up, I know lame me

  12. OK – just saw a commercial of BO on local television during the news. VERY NEGATIVE on gas tax relief, then, he goes into a xerox of Hillary’s energy plan. Whole thing is just him at the podium – again. Yawn.

  13. No, he conveniently went past that vote. haha. Hillary should come out and say he is the reason for the higher gas prices, voting for 6 billion dollars in tax breaks and subsidies for oil companies, 12 billion for coal, 15 billion (and this is somebody “against” nuclear power). Hillary definitely should have hit him harder on this. He made some statement about Hillary being in the White House and being a 2 term senator and not saying anything about taking it to OPEC. Well Mr. Obama to whom have you actually taken it to, in your 3 (I mean 2 years) in the U.S. Senate. Other than just talking, what have you actually done?

  14. informed in illinois – lame eh – I think people will start to say, “Party of Hope, naw, more like Party of Desperation!”

  15. The centerpiece of Hillary’s long-term energy plan is more fuel efficiency and new technology – “made right here in America.” BO is just copying, as per usual.

  16. Informed: His energy policy is the Cheney energy plan. Afterall, he voted for it. He does not “get it.”

  17. jr – RIGHT! BO VOTED YES on Bush’s energy plan! And now *gasp* we have out of control prices. I haven’t heard Hillary say this lately.

  18. Informed in Illinois – did you see the Ayers picture – in Chicago stomping on the American Flag – its a posing type of a picture – it was just on Fox – I also was looking at the stops of Hillarys today in IN and it was a clever move as she campaigned near the Ohio/KY border line mainly along the KY line (hint – one of the next primary state)

  19. Krugman on Obama lying in gas tax advertisment:

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/is-obama-misrepresenting-what-i-said/

    I don’t have a link to the ad itself, but apparently there’s an Obama ad citing something I said about McCain’s gas tax holiday as a way to attack Hillary Clinton.

    I did not say that the Clinton proposal would increase oil industry profits. If the ad implies that I did, it should be retracted.

    The Clinton proposal is financed by an excess profits tax. At worst, it sends money in a circle. In practice, it would probably reduce oil industry profits at least slightly, since the rise in the pre-tax price of gasoline probably wouldn’t wipe out all of the tax cut.

    I was very clear when I wrote about the Clinton proposal that while I didn’t think it was good policy, it was not the same as McCain’s, and relatively harmless. If the Obama people are suggesting otherwise, they’re being deliberately dishonest.

  20. For Terrondt and other poll addicted readers: 🙂

    http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=3909

    The latest Ipsos poll conducted over the weekend shows that on the eve of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton has taken over the lead in popular support from Democrats nationally. Among Democratic supporters across the country, 47% say that if the 2008 Democratic presidential primary or caucus was being held in their state today, they would choose Clinton, while 40% would vote for Barack Obama.

    These results are in contrast to a poll conducted by Ipsos from April 23rd to April 27th and released last week which showed that Obama had a forty-six percent to forty-three percent lead over Clinton on this same question. Democratic support for Clinton remains highest from women (51%), who have a high-school education or less (58%), and very low income respondents (57% among those with an annual household income of $25,000 or less).

  21. Informed in Illinois–here is my list of problematic Obama friends

    Rev. Wright
    Father Pfleger and Rev. Meeks
    William Ayers
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Tony Rezko and his friends
    Rashid Khalidi
    Jodie Evans

  22. Our cousins over at the Dailymail call Obama “desperate”:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=564228&in_page_id=1811

    “Desperate Barack Obama begs Democrats: Help me finish Hillary”

    Barack Obama made an impassioned appeal to voters last night to end Hillary Clinton’s dreams of another comeback in the race for the White House.

    The Illinois senator told Democrat voters heading to the polls today in Indiana and North Carolina: “I need help.”

    With less than a month to go before the state-by-state vote ends, the Obama camp is desperate to finish off Mrs Clinton’s campaign to become the Democrat’s presidential nominee.

  23. Informed: yeah, uncle Dickie. Maybe, that is why BO voted for it. Didn’t want to create any hard feelings within the family. LOL.

  24. Hillary in Evansville, IN

    Her last stop for today in IN –

    streaming.news25.us/launch.asp?video=live

  25. This is really cute on news 25! They’re warming up the crowd, “Madame President!”

  26. Wasn’t Raila Odinga schooled in East Germany? Wan’t his father communist leaning?

  27. Can’t stand CNN but supposedly they are going to show Hillary’s rally when it begins in a little while.

  28. streaming.news25.us/launch.asp?video=live

    HILLARY ON NOW IN EVANSVILLE, IN her last stop!

  29. did you notice that? Hillary’s campaign in Evansville – worth 2 seconds – Obama’s in Indianapolis which was not live – 10+ seconds

  30. Gretawire poll:
    Who will win North Carolina tomorrow?
    Senator Obama by a large margin 8% (388 votes)
    Senator Obama by a slim margin 25% (1254 votes)
    Senator Clinton by a large margin 22% (1097 votes)
    Senator Clinton by a slim margin 45% (2269 votes)
    Total Votes: 5008

  31. God, she is so good. She just really gets political framing. Genius. Haven’t heard a Dem like this since Bill Clinton.

  32. lol informed in illinois – thank you for the work you do for Hillary in Indiana – I hope I can go out to a state to campaign for her what are my choices… Kentucky? West Virginia? Oregon (too far for me)? P.R.? Montana? South Dakota?

    Some people over at TM thinks Obama may quit after tomorrow if he loses Indiana and wins by a small margin in NC or even loses NC. That’d be the day!

    Goodnight see you all tmw! I know Id be a nervous wreck!

  33. Thought Anderson said Hillary would be on during her rally…guess not. I can’t get streaming.news 25…OH, Fiddle!

  34. Im sorry I looked at Obama’s site and its just pure sickening with all those Obama’s symbol (the logo) over and over everywhere no matter where you click and the color its just nauseus. Gonna shower now and go to bed 😉

  35. Ayers standing on Old Glory needs to be front page of every major (and minor) newspaper/ news outlet web page IN THE MORNING. Check out wife Dorhn giving speech to their alma mater in Nov. 2007 about being in the “Belly of the Beast (USA)”, and talk of White Supremacy. People, this common thread with BHO – Wright, Farakkhan (Nation of Islam), Nicaraguan leader banner on wall in campaign office, Ayers/Dohrn, his mentor “Frank” back in Hawaii, Rezko and the many Middle Eastern connections – all reek of such blatant hate for our country and the need for “CHANGE” that it is appalling that ANYONE – SD, celebrity, etc could support him for the Presidency. WE ALL MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO DEFEAT HIM TOMORROW. Going to light my candle now and enviosion victory. Channeling positive energy toward victory for Hillary both in Indiana and North Carolina, yields positive outcome = desired results. We must embody the same confidence she exudes. Let’s all totally believe in defying the odds. Totally.

  36. OH, Justme, you mentioned that before – I forgot! Sorry – 🙁 Goodnight to you – and GO, HILLARY! 🙂

  37. Just googled it, and they said it was a myth. That they have something like 63 delegates, and since they are practically the last to vote, it all goes to the same candidate.

    I thought I had read differently, but it looks like I am wrong.

  38. Obama says, “We’ve probably taken as many hits as anyone in this campaign and we’re still here…..” Who is he kidding? He’s had exactly two weeks of real scrutiny and now that they are getting a more focused picture, Americans don’t like what they see.

    They say they’re covering another Clinton event on CNN – wasn’t that her last event? Wow, whatta campaigner!

  39. He has had two weeks of stress, and he look depressed and worn. She has had since Iowa stress, and she look energized.

  40. Gosh marie1385.. that scares me to death with jessie jackson as sec of state.and ayers and rezko auchi we need a list with all these people,I cant keep up with his friends and ties..
    instead of war on terror its terror in the white house with these people…obambi has his power with that company behind him and they will give obama every order of what to do..while he smokes cigarettes.
    NO OBama never near that White House or michelle

  41. Here’s another:
    URGENT ACTION ITEM:
    Please tell Ms. Heather Mazeur (DNC mem) why Hillary should be 44!

    Ms. Heather Mizeur email: heather@heathermizeur.com
    7200 Maple Avenue, Takoma Park, MD 20912

    C’MON everyone–help us out!
    Post “done” so I know how many of you were able to help, okay?
    Thanks-guys!

  42. ok, pollster crunched the numbers and about 40% of the early vote as of may 3 was african american voters, which is much higher than estimates of african american turnout. thus if the 40% holds, he will win NC by a wider margin than polls currently show.

  43. NYT;
    You can tell where Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama think they have their best shot by where they will be on Tuesday night: Mrs. Clinton has a hotel ballroom in Indianapolis, and Mr. Obama, after some last-minute debate, finally decided on a rally at a coliseum in Raleigh, N.C. But to say that both sides are anxious would be an understatement

  44. I don’t think the early vote will hold but I would say it’s worst case. IN is where the real contest is because NC is assumed BO’s. The fact that he will not be in IN is telling and not a good sign for Camp Obama.

  45. Bird, I don’t know. 90% of 40% is 36 points. Say 40% of the white vote, that would be 24 points. Worst case is 60 points. I don’t think it will be anywhere near that but that is his ceiling.

  46. mj, No need to be concerned just yet. First, pollster could be fibbing to create some hype (wouldn’t be the first time). Second, there may be no correlation between early voting and actual overall AA turnout. Given that there are a finite number of AA NC voters, this could just mean AAs are voting early and not that the pool of AA Obama supporters has increased. Third, some of these early AA voters could be voting for Hillary. Fourth, the white GOP crossover voters and white Democratic voters may be voting in equally large numbers but just on Election Day.

    We will know the answer this time tomorrow night (maybe, it could be close).

  47. What I mean is NC would be a great upset, but it would be just that, an upset. So him not being in IN suggests he doesn’t expect to win there.

  48. Oh yes, paddy, but I like to play with numbers. This at least gives us our worst case scenario. Pollster is really good. I don’t think they fib. If you go over there and read the piece it is very dry, and also talks about how BO has made early voting a priority so those numbers when just be a reflection of his early vote push.

  49. mj, ok maybe they don’t fib. Let’s hope not at least. When it comes to any stats about Obama, it is hard these days to trust anyone. We have been misled so many times by the camp that was supposed to be ushering in a new age of clean politics.

  50. Yeah, paddy, but pollster just isn’t like that. really. They are a great resource. Again, I just like to know worst case, and these numbers, I believe, give us that. The AA vote is not going to be higher than 39.9%. Will it be lower? I think it will. But I would say that gives us our ceiling.

  51. Before we get obsessed in a few hours with early turnout #’s, exit polls, poll closing (when does NC close, btw?), and the like,
    let the record reflect what should have been THE story today,
    that Barack Obama’s most visible supporter, Ophrah Winrfey, left Trinity church in the mid 1990’s in large part due to Reverand Wright, according to two sources in a Newsweek story that was finally leaked today.

    Having only caught re-runs of all the regular shows tonight, I’ve yet to see mention of it and must assume there was barely acknowledgement of it on newscasts today as well.

    This story, leaked instead last week and given it’s proportionate weight (proportionate to the airtime Wright has chewed up overall, proportionate to the Oprah ‘endorsement’ coverage, and proportionate in reporters actually obtaining a statement from Oprah in response!)
    would have just about finished Obama, and so this may have been the biggest break of the campaign.

    I’m also not 100% sure Hill shouldn’t have played for keeps in NC (where many have now said the Wright issue has had a greater effect than IN) by blasting BO with Rev Wright ads.

  52. Of course those same earlies have womens vote at 60%, so most polls show it at 52%. If it holds at 60%, well then all bets are off.

  53. 2,025? Clinton camp says the ‘magic number’ of delegates is really 2,209

    For weeks, the figure that the Associated Press, political reporters and the Democratic presidential campaigns have been citing as the minimum number of convention delegates needed to be the party’s presidential nominee has been 2,025.

    This morning, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign made the case that the goal line needs to be moved further back and that the real “magic number” is 2,209. It also laid out a scenario that has the primary season ending on June 3 with neither major contender having reached the 2,209 mark. In that event, Clinton strategist Geoff Garin said, “the process” would continue — a process that could see Clinton and Barack Obama taking their battle for the nomination to the floor of the party’s late-August convention in Denver.

    Here’s what they’re talking about:

    • 2,025 is a tick above half the 4,048 delegates to the Democratic convention — if the delegations from Florida and Michigan aren’t counted.

    • The delegates from Florida and Michigan aren’t being included in the DNC’s official count right now because those states held their primaries earlier than party rules allowed. The DNC says 2,025 is the minimum number of delegates needed to be the nominee. Obama is about 283 away from that number. Clinton is about 418 away.

    • But the Clinton campaign, which trails Obama by about 135 delegates as of now, argues that the two states’ results should be counted. Clinton “won” both, though Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan and none of the Democrats campaigned in either state. (Update at 1:57 p.m. ET: Under no scenario would Clinton be awarded all the delegates from the two states. The Democratic Party does not do winner take all primaries.)

    • Adding the 368 additional delegates that Florida and Michigan could bring to the party pushes the total number of convention delegates to 4,416. And that pushes the minimum needed to win to 2,209.

    Here’s Garin, on a conference call with reporters this morning, answering a question about whether the Clinton campaign believes 2,209 is the “standard” that must be reached to win the nomination:

    Mark Nickolas, a Democratic blogger, noted late last month that the Clinton campaign had previously cited the 2,025 figure as being the one to watch.

    It will be up to the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee to settle the dispute over what to do with the Florida and Michigan delegations. As we noted earlier, the Clinton campaign has not ruled out that it might go “nuclear” and push hard to get that committee to rule in its favor.

  54. Over at correntewire, they’re saying that Ayers’ family is connected to one of the big oil companies. If that’s true, gosh I think the Republicans will have an ad or two on that in reference to Obama and the gas tax

  55. Isn’t Indiana split between the two time zones?? How is that going to work out? Is one portion of the state going to close polls at 8 pm E.T. and the other at 9 pm E.T.??

  56. Zogby is so in the tank for Obama it is pathetic even Fox noted tonight that zogby has been having a very bad year. His final polls for NC and IN are laughable.

  57. My feelings about what happens after Tuesday

    First scenario: Hillary wins both IN and NC. The defeat causes Obama to quit the race

    Second scenario: Hillary wins both IN and NC but Obama vows to continue fighting until the last voting in the hope that something trips Hillary. But his SDs will begin having second thoughts. If he loses OR too, he most likely will be forced to call it quits before Denver.

    Third: They split Tuesday, IN for Hillary, NC for Obama. But Obama wins NC by a small margin (less that 10) and loses most of the white voters. Could see some questioning of relevancy of Obama candidacy (can only win AA vote, can’t carry Midwestern states etc.). Some more uncommitted SDs may begin moving to Hillary. Media will claim Tuesday was a toss-up, so on to the next contests.

    Fourth: Hillary wins IN, Obama NC by more than 10. Obama and media will claim the race is still his because NC is a larger state; she can’t carry southern swing states and more such silliness. They will marginalize IN. Obama moves the goalpost by arbitrarily declaring that OR will decide the contest with the media and Dean &Co. both agreeing.

    Obama is (maybe falsely) confident that no matter the result of the remaining contests, Dean will rig the entire thing and give it to him by not seating FL and MI, pushing the SDs very hard to end the bloodletting, etc and so forth. Could be why he has been so lackluster in campaigning recently. But Dean may not have enough political capital to close the deal for Obama if he does not do well in the remaining contests. If Hillary wins all the remaining contests, she may be the one with the political clout by turning Dean’s comments about ending the bloodletting against Obama. If she loses OR and wins the others, it may just have to go down to the Supers, who will consider various factors and attempt to close the deal before Denver. It could go to the convention floor if neither agrees to drop out before Denver.

    We should all realize at this point that Richardson and other recent high level defectors to Obama all have close ties to the DNC leadership and have been acting as proxies for Dean. So we know what Dean is thinking.

  58. Don’t kid yourself. Even if Obama loses both states tomorrow, the media will up the pressure on Clinton to get out and go back to the kitchen where women belong…for the good of the party.

  59. Paddy,

    As much as I like the first scenerio, I have to believe that the second or 3rd is most likely. Then again America is mean and Michelle may tell him to drop out if he loses both.

  60. I don’t expect the first one to materialize either. But I think Obama has a really big ego. And oftentimes people with big egos can just up and decide not to play anymore if they can’t be the big chief. It happens.

  61. The big reason why they will Hillary out tomorrow are the next 2 big primaries which will a complete blowout in both for Clinton and they know it. She is already pulling up in Oregon fast and they all know, when she wins tonight, then comes WV and the KY and Oregon.

    WV and KY will be huge scale problems for Obama because the AA population in both is West Virginia 3% and Kentucky 7%. So the glaring loss among white voters will be enhanced x100.

  62. Don’t kid yourself. Even if Obama loses both states tomorrow, the media will up the pressure on Clinton to get out and go back to the kitchen where women belong…for the good of the party.

    Exactly. MSM is so in the tank with Obama.

  63. I don’t see any scenario where Obama gets out.

    Having said that, the only thing that might make him think about it is the realization that the Republicans won’t stop until they have destroyed him. They’ve got so much dirt on him that they’ll just leave him in the ditch.

    The problem is that he is convinced his sh*t doesn’t stink and that he can sweet talk his way out of Farrakkhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, et al.

  64. No, its fight to the death but there is a certain point that politicians will turn on him and its soon.

    Its apparent he’s losing steam and the problem is, you don’t see the fightback that Hillary gave him and that will strike fear into the SD’s hearts.

    He’s not a fighter, he plays dirty but is not a fighter, once you zap him, he doesnt get right back up and therein lies the problem.

  65. Tom Hanks endorsed and said that BHO has taken the “high road?”
    *****************************

    Tom, I’ve got nothing against people who take the high road. In fact, I used to do that myself!

  66. great article on why hill may get the undecideds-
    “But then I’ve known ever since April 18 when Ace Smith, Clinton’s North Carolina state director, spun “lowered expectations” in a revealing way that she was going for gold here. Winning North Carolina “would be the biggest upset of the century,” Smith told reporters. Smith, who engineered Clinton’s wins in California and Texas, clearly had been engaging in some pleasant woolgathering. But now that the race has tightened to under ten points, perhaps three is indeed a lucky number.

    When Bill Clinton finally (as usual, hours late) greets Lenoir, he says much the same thing. “Hillary is in this race today with a genuine chance to win because of people like you and places like this. It has been one of the great honors of my life to campaign on her behalf in small-town America from the beginning. It’s towns like this that brought her back from thirteen points down in a miracle victory in just two days in New Hampshire. Towns like this.”

    Towns like this. Here is the Clinton strategy for winning North Carolina. Although Barack Obama had television ads running in NC by the end of March, Hillary Clinton was already campaigning on the ground in the Tar Heel State during the run-up to the Pennsylvania primary. This late in the race, the law of inexorable consequence has set in. The way one primary unfolds determines the parameters of the next. Therefore, because Senator Clinton was always going to win Pennsylvania, she could afford to begin her North Carolina campaign early. By now she has stumped in three to four times more North Carolina cities and towns than Senator Obama. Moreover, Bill Clinton, widely disparaged in the national media and outside states in-play, is Hillary Clinton’s stealth weapon in North Carolina. As Bill says to Lenoir, “I went to 47 towns in Pennsylvania, 39 in Indiana, and by the time I’ve done here, I’m gonna top 50 in North Carolina.” That’s right, fifty, at the rate of five to seven a day. The day before primary, Bill Clinton will make nine–yes, nine–campaign stops in small towns across northern North Carolina. After the Jefferson-Jackson dinner Sunday night in Indiana, Senator Clinton flew back to the Tar Heel State. The three Clintons (Chelsea has been here, too) are campaigning so fiercely because they think Hillary can win North Carolina–or at least achieve a narrow loss. . .’

    The North Carolina polls have the undecided vote for the Tuesday Democratic primary at ten to twelve percent. That has felt about right to me. Over the weekend, just like in Iowa, many of the undecideds decided at the eleventh hour it was about time to make up their minds and headed out to do so. Saturday and Sunday provided opportunities to see a Clinton; Obama, however, was not in the state. At several events, I met undecideds who settled on Clinton once they had seen her, none of whom had yet seen Senator Obama. At the race car rally in Mooresville, for example, a group of school teachers told me that they had wanted to see both candidates in person before deciding. But having just watched Clinton, and with no chance of seeing Obama in the flesh, they were going to vote for Clinton. This is the dynamic in Lenoir, as well. Obama is a rara avis–people just don’t know much about him, although one lady says that she knows “one or two people for him.” As a consequence of his absence from the state over the weekend, the undecided vote in North Carolina is therefore likely to break for Clinton. . .’

    Read more at link ===>
    _huffpo.com/mayhill-fowler/clintons-tagteam///_

  67. hi hillfans, i am gearing up for later today and tonite. PLEASE NO GLOOM AND DOOM HILLFANS ALLOWED. ALL POSITIVE. WE WON’T LET THE OBAMATHUGS DRIVE HILLARY OUT OF THE RACE!

  68. indiana poll closings at 6pm their time. 6:30 my time in connecticut. i know this becuase every general election year they along with kentucky are among the first to close and report the returns quickly.

  69. you are right on Terrondt.

    O! say can you see by the dawn’s early light
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
    Whose strong arms and bright eyes through the perilous fight,
    O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly beaming?
    And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that our girl was still there.
    Oh, say does that star-spangled woman yet stand
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    It’s Denver or bust (not mine)!

  70. I’ll hoot my ass off tonight when Hillary wins Indiana and then comes so close in Indiana that she can leapfrog over his sorry ass to the finish line.

  71. sorry messed that up

    I’ll hoot my ass off tonight when Hillary wins Indiana and then comes so close in NC that she can leapfrog over his sorry ass to the finish line.

  72. May 06, 2008
    Will Voters Accept Obama’s Explanations?
    By Ed Koch

    Tomorrow evening we will know the outcome of the Democratic primaries in two important states that could decide the political fates of Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    In Indiana, a primarily white state, we will know whether white voters, who are close to 75 percent of the population of the U.S., accept Senator Obama’s explanation of why, after first stating, “I can no more disown him [Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother,” he now rejects Wright after Wright’s appearance before the NAACP and the National Press Club.

    Obama went on to explain: “The person [Wright] I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church. Now, I’ve already denounced the comments that had appeared in these previous sermons. As I said, I had not heard them before. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia, explaining that he has done enormous good in the church.

    “But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS, when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century, when he equates the United States wartime efforts with terrorism, then there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced. And that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

    He has not explained why he sat in the church’s pews for 20 years without complaint.

    Do voters accept his explanation on Tim Russert’s “Meet the Press” on May 4th, when he said: “Well, you know, previously, there were a bunch of sermons that had been spliced from a collection of sermons for 30 years. And that’s not who I thought he was. That’s not what I thought defined him. He’s somebody who’s a Marine, he’s somebody who has served on city colleges boards, somebody who was a respected pillar in the community. And so I thought it was important to–for him to explain or at least provide some context for some of the things that he had said previously. But when he came out at the press conference of the National Press Club, not only did he amplify some of those comments and defend them vigorously, but he added to it. He put gasoline on the fire. And what that told me was not only was he interested in using this platform to continue to make statements that I fundamentally disagree with and that offend me, but also that he didn’t have much regard for the moment that we’re in right now here in the United States where we can’t be distracted or engaged in this divisive, hateful language.”

    Or, do voters believe, as some do, including me, that Obama cut his ties with Wright because of Wright’s attack on Senator Obama in which he made clear that Senator Obama, in his opinion, was like every other politician, a hypocrite who is willing to say whatever will get him elected? Wright said at the National Press Club on April 28th, “We both know that, if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected. Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, Huffington, whoever’s doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they’re pastors.”

    The interview with Tim Russert, regrettably, did not touch that area of their disagreement.

    I believe that, if he is the Democratic candidate for president, Senator Obama will lose in November. There are many people in the Democratic Party and its leadership who feel that way. They are told that, nevertheless, the party must accept Obama even if he arrives at the convention with fewer committed delegates than needed to win the nomination. They say that to deprive him of victory under all of these circumstances would so enrage his supporters that they would either stay home in November or cross party lines and vote for Senator John McCain.

    Many superdelegates who will be making the decision to nominate the Democratic candidate will be told that they will permanently damage the party by causing a defection of the black vote if they deprive Obama of victory. There is no doubt that were the superdelegates to do what they were appointed to do – provide to the best of their ability a candidate who is perceived to be best able to win in November against the Republican candidate – they will be vilified by many Democrats if they do not select Obama.

    A lot is riding on tomorrow’s vote. If Indiana goes for Obama, the ballgame is over and he will be the candidate under any and all circumstances. If North Carolina also goes for Obama, that will be the icing on the cake and we will still call his black support, even if it exceeds 92 percent, as it has in some other states, racial pride.

    But politics is a complex business. If Clinton carries Indiana and then goes on to win Kentucky and West Virginia, her chances will greatly improve. Stay tuned. It ain’t over till it’s over.

    Ed Koch is the former Mayor of New York City.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/what_well_learn_today.html

  73. Im going to have my primary smoke later today! That is the only time I smoke, I feel less guilty because they are American spirits. I just thought I would share that! Im a little loopy today, very nervous and exited all mixed together!

  74. For anyone interested, here is a transcript of the Hillary interview with Katie Couric. I enjoyed it even though there are other articles, including some posted here, that are more interesting. Still, this one touches on some of the current questions.

    cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/05/eveningnews/main4073295.shtml

  75. winhillary, what will be will be, its out of our hands, just sit back and relax.

    Its up to the voters now, if Indiana is to save her today, it will happen. I guarantee you, Obama’s lot will be challenging everyone in Indiana today with that voter id law.

    NC, well thats another story but i can imagine, every tom, dick and harry being pulled from the cemetery to vote for Obama today.

  76. Rise Hiilary, Rise!!!!!!!!!!

    Envision her inauguration with Bill and Chelsea in background on that cold January day. For every action (focused, razor-sharp belief and energy willing it to become) = positive reaction (YIELDS EXACT RESULT.)
    NO NEGATIVITY TODAY. TROLLS GO ELSEWHERE. ONWARD SOLDIERS! CHAAAARRRRRGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!

  77. Obama cut his ties with Wright because of Wright’s attack on Senator Obama in which he made clear that Senator Obama, in his opinion, was like every other politician, a hypocrite who is willing to say whatever will get him elected

    – Ed Koch.

    This is the kind of statement that needs to be spread far and wide.

  78. For every action (focused, razor-sharp belief and energy willing it to become) = positive reaction (YIELDS EXACT RESULT.)

    wonderful and marvelous!

    This is your day Hillary. Go for it.

  79. I hope they have people watching the polls, especially those closest to Illinois. I don’t trust the Obama people at all. I wish they had cameras in all the voting places.

  80. obama already trying to spin a loss in Indiana .. says the id law hurts black and college students…

    Fox news is already working hard to help bambi now. They are very afraid of Hillary Clinton.

  81. “I hope they have people watching the polls, especially those closest to Illinois. I don’t trust the Obama people at all. I wish they had cameras in all the voting places.”

    Somewhere in a small Indiana town

    An old lady wobbles up the steps to the entrance of the local school. “Is this the place to vote?” she asks the young man dressed in a crisp brown uniform that appears to be guarding the door. “Well, that depends on who you are voting for. If you for that b*tch, the voting time has been changed until tomorrow. If you are here to cast your ballot for the fearless leader who will lead the world into a golden age of eternal bliss and happiness, this is it.”
    “Well sonny, I am not accustomed to telling folks how I am going to vote. I consider it a private matter.”
    The doorman looking rather annoyed just waved her in. He shouted back to the others inside “here’s anther weirdo. Card her.”
    As she entered the front door, another somber looking fellow immediately came up to her and said “Sorry lady, but I got to see your ID.”
    “What ID?” she said.
    “We need to see original copies of your birth certificate, baptismal certificate in triplets, a digital ID of some sort, and your tax returns from the last 20 years. That is unless you can prove you have donated to the Obama campaign or have any other proof you are one of us.”
    “This is a violation of my civil rights” she yelled while threateningly waving her walking cane in front of his face.
    “Look you old buzzard, it’s the law. And if you don’t get that stinking cane out of my face, I am going to call the cops and have them put you into an old folks home.”
    “Ok, I’ll do whatever you ask of me. I guess this is the beginning of the golden age of eternal bliss and happiness.”

  82. All hands on deck, baby!

    I just posted the following blog over at the Indy Star’s site:

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=b3ab1c946541450ba71235a592e5593a&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ab3ab1c946541450ba71235a592e5593aPost%3a10386d24-f532-44a3-bca4-d1c044907723&sid=sitelife.indystar.com

    Like many of you surely did, I got the email last night from Maggie Williams about phone banking today.

    Time to go to work!

    Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal”

  83. Paddy!

    Is that your story! Brilliant.

    Paddy!

    Is that your story! Brilliant.

    I’m LMAO but crying at the same time. This horrific campaign has inspired me to reread 1984. If Waffles were ever to get anywhere near the WH, that is what would happen in this country:
    Thought police, Ministry of truth, Hate Week, Ignorance is strength, Freedom is Slavery…
    I saw an interesting post on TM that pointed out in the 1969’s AA’s didn’t want to be called ‘Negros’ anymore so everyone accomodatingly started using the term “black.” Then they didn’t want to be called ‘Black” and so the term was changed to “African American.” The poster pointed out the obvious error with that term. My point in bringing up that particular terminology is that it’s relevant to this entire race-baiting campaign AND illustrates the 1984 premises, after being a.

  84. 😳 Didn’t copy and paste good.

    Paddy!

    Is that your story! Brilliant.

    I’m LMAO but crying at the same time. This horrific campaign has inspired me to reread 1984. If Waffles were ever to get anywhere near the WH, that is what would happen in this country:
    Thought police, Ministry of truth, Hate Week, Ignorance is strength, Freedom is Slavery…
    I saw an interesting post on TM that pointed out in the 1960’s AA’s didn’t want to be called ‘Negroes’ anymore so everyone accommodatingly started using the term “black.” Then they didn’t want to be called ‘Black” and so the term was changed to “African American.” The poster pointed out the obvious error with that term. My point in bringing up that particular terminology is that it’s relevant to this entire race-baiting campaign AND illustrates the 1984 predictions.

    A brief passage, from the scene when Winston decides to write his history, even though it’s illegal and scribbles “DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER over and over in his dairy. Shocked by his heresy, he thinks:

    ”Whether he wrote Down with Big Brother or refrained from writing it made no difference. The thought-police would get him just the same. He had committed- would still have committed it if he had never set pen to paper- the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime,”
    Will stop with this: Winston was terrified about the sacred Big Brother principles of Newspeak, doublethink, the mutability of the past.”

  85. Amazing that Senator Obama thinks that carding makes it harder for his people to vote. At the Caucuses, he was not concerned about how the old, and handicapped, and people working shift work were denied their vote at the caucuses.

    Today we find out what the real poll is as the American People line up and tell us what they really think.

    Go Hillary!

  86. What on earth does that mean? What’s wrong with the term african american? People say Irish american. italian american, etc. I have no idea what that comment means.

  87. NOTE THE LINE WHERE THE OBAMA GUY SAYS FOR PEOPLE TO LIE TO THEIR EMPLOYERS AND “CALL IN SICK’ IN ORDER TO MAKE OBAMA WIN bottom of 4th paragraph.

    I quote:

    From: Obama Voice [mailto:obamavoice@gmail.com]
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:37 PM
    To: obamavoice@gmail.com
    Subject: Time for Change. Time for Action

    When I arrived in Charlotte I was immediately impressed by the grassroots organization that had already been established here. Then, I could not have imagined the blood, sweat and tears that would be shed in the name of hope, to produce change. In just a few short minutes, your incredible field organizers and I will gather to review our game plan one final time. In so doing, we will undoubtedly marvel in the growth and remarkable journey of this campaign here in North Carolina. It is upon your shoulders that we have arrived at this critical point, and it is – once again – upon your shoulders that we will bring it home.

    Ready to go?

    But please remember that the forces against which we are waging do not go quickly or quietly into the night. We cannot wait passively and idly hope for change to come. Heed the words of Senator Obama, recognize the fierce urgency of now, and be the change you hope to see. We are in a unique position to actually influence the outcome of this presidential primary, and in so doing, have an incredible influence on the future trajectory of this country.

    And to do that we need your help. We need more of your blood, your sweat, and your tears. This weekend our Charlotte organization knocked on an incredible number of doors – but there are still many doors to knock, more stories to hear, more voters to inspire. So please join us as we knock on your neighbors doors and bring Senator Obama’s message of hope, unity and change. There is nothing more effective than connecting with another voter and expressing your story. Only you can do that. You know how important this is! I know I don’t have to ask, but I will one last time – please join us tomorrow. Call in sick if you have to and help us all day by canvassing or offering rides to the polls.

    Tomorrow we will be canvassing at 9am, 1pm and 4pm (and whenever else you can join us)! There are offices all over Charlotte but our greatest priorities are at 1520 West Blvd and 7935 N. Tryon St. People need to hear your story – hear why you know Barack will make a great president and how his message has touched your life. Join us tomorrow in making history!

    Between now and 8pm tomorrow evening, when polls close, we each have to do all in our power to ensure that Barack Obama is victorious. Now is our opportunity to not only change politics, but how Americans view and respect one another. The responsibility is ours.

    Jason G. Green

    Regional Field Director, Charlotte

    1523 Elizabeth Avenue

    Charlotte, NC 28204

  88. Morning Joe!

    Terry McCaulliff predicting HRC will win Indiana and the KY, W. Va and PR!!!!! 😀

    Joe predicting she will shock the world and take Indiana AND NC.

    During this exchange Mika Pompadour flicks her hair, tosses her head, arranges a strand along one cheek, mugs for the camera and generally acts like a blonde bimbo cheerleader desperately trying to redirect attention to herself.

    How can we get her FIRED!!!!!! Even joe seems to find her annoying these days. 👿

  89. mj,
    It’s just a comment that caught my attention, probably because I have been incensed by the propagandizing of the racial element in this campaign. That’s what has reminded me of Big Brother. Had it been WMD on the table right now I would have compared the brainwashing by Waffles campaign to that. Had it been propaganda about Tuskeegee Incident never having happened, i would have discussed that. Had it been the lies that the holocaust never occurred, i would have chosen that. My point is, just because a campaign is founded on racism, doesn’t mean it’s off bound to discuss. That’s brainwashing. And that is what has characterized this particular campaign from the beginning, through Bill being called racist for ‘fairy tale’ remark, to the BM Reverend Wright revisionist history, to Clyburn saying the Clinton’s are trying to destroy Waffles, to Deaniac going on National TV and announcing any attempt of the repubs to tie Jerry to Barry would be considered racist and the Dems won’t stand for that. Of course he doesn’t say a word about the Dems sexist trashing of HRC. Ubfortunately, propagandization of the race card has been the Waffles campaign’s trump and I am not going to ignore that fact even though some may think it’s politically incorrect to do so.
    That’s where I was coming from. No offense intended to you or anyone else but the truth is the truth.

  90. “…any attempt of the repubs to tie Jerry to Barry would be considered racist and the Dems won’t stand for that. Of course he doesn’t say a word about the Dems sexist trashing of HRC.”

    Exactly!

  91. Basil, I understand, but the term african american is not Obama’s. he doesn’t own it. It was there before him and will be there long after he loses the primary.

  92. of course dean doesn’t bring up the sexist trashing……..because it’s been the Dem’s that have been doing the sexist crap not the GOP!!!

  93. And, I have said over and over again that BO’s camp has played the race card and been extremely devisive.

  94. If Dean keeps this up, I think Lanny Davis should go after him and DEMAND that Dean resign for interfering with the process.

  95. mj,
    You’re right that I didn’t exactly use the term in it’s proper context – I should have tried harder to link the TM posters comment to what suddenly reminded me of the themes in 1984, which I’m rereading, and I got a little carried away by inspiration and trying to relate the Orwell book, written in 1949, to what’s occurring in this campaign.
    My point is Big Brother is here, and this time the proof isn’t in the use of military terms such as “collateral Damage,” Weapons of Mass Destruction,” etc., but more subtle as in banning the words ‘fairy tale, monkey, Hussein and others from our vocabulary. What Waffles campaign is trying to do reminds me of Saddam Husein, Chavez, Hitler, Mussolini and all the other tyrant dictators deliberate use of selective language to control people.

  96. basil, I totally agree. Actually, the campaign is just like animal farm. remember “newspeak”.

  97. basil, yes, I was just having a bit of fun to kick start your Tuesday. Mine is about to end.

    Let’s hope we carry the day so we DON’T have to re-read 1984.

    Tuesday’s story will have a happy ending I am sure.

  98. Mj,

    That’s next on my list to reread. After that, it’s Lord of the Flies.

    Funny. I just realized “newspeak” is used in 1984, too. Which was written first, that or Animal Farm? I’m gonna check.

  99. As I said yesterday, let’s look at the exsit polls and see what demograpic is voting for Hillary, it should be interesting!!

    Also let’s stay positive and upbeat!! 🙂

  100. “I heard he is telling SDs to come out for BO.”

    That tells me the BO camp is running scared, which is actually good news for Hillary.

    That being said the more Dean talks the more proof we have of him “… interfering with the process” (as MonkeyBusiness put it) and yes he needs to be asked to resign.

  101. Michelle Obama plays the race card in Charlotte, NC.

    “Her husband has been doing just that, Obama explains — raising money, building an organization, winning caucuses, winning primaries, and amassing a large number of delegates. And yet he still hasn’t won, because nothing is ever enough for those unnamed adversaries.

    “‘You start working hard and sacrificing, and you think you’re getting closer to the bar, you’re working and you’re struggling, you get right to that bar, you’re reaching out for the bar, and then what happens?’

    “‘They raise the bar. Raise the bar. Shift it to the side. Keep it just out of reach.’

    “‘And that’s just what’s been happening in this race.’

    Even Michelle Obama herself. “I’m not supposed to be here,” she tells the crowd. “I am a statistical oddity. As a black girl raised on the south side of Chicago, I’m not supposed to be here. I wasn’t supposed to go to Princeton. They said my test scores were too high” — surely a verbal slip, because in the past she has said she was told her test scores were too low — “I wasn’t supposed to go to Harvard Law School, because they said it might be a little too hard for me. And I certainly am not supposed to be standing here with a chance to become the next first lady of the United States of America.”

    “But here she is, in just that position — only to find that they, as always, are trying to raise the bar a little higher, just out of her and her husband’s reach. Still, she asks the crowd ‘to close your eyes and do some dreaming…to dream of the day that a man like Barack Obama is standing in front of the Capitol with his hand on the Bible.’ With that, the audience erupts into shouting and applause. They’re fired up and ready to go, and all those who love the Lord and will vote for Obama say ‘Amen.’
    Read the entire article:

    article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGQ1MzFkMWU4MmYxMjhkZmNiZGE5YWY3NWUzNGMyMmY=&w=MQ==

  102. Oh Lord, I have news for her, HJill isn’t supposed to be here. She’s a woman about to become president, but they keep raising the bar.

  103. You know the one thing I find offensive is when BO states that he just paid off his student loans…..well, why did he not just go to a less expensive university and work part time like most people. In my eyes he has been priviledged than most Americans.

    There are many people who wanted to go to Harvard I am sure but could not afford it.

  104. I am sure this has been said before, but Hillary is going to win by a landslide in Indiana. Maybe by even more than SUSA predicted! A couple friends of mine from college are outside a couple voting places in the so-called Chicago TV shared area, and everybody coming in is wearing Hillary buttons! She has seen almost nobody who supported Obama who was smiling.

    It’s going to be a great day.

  105. Been away – just tuned in – Paddy4Hill, please don’t mind this, but this little old lady would like to offer an alternate ending to your story about the little old lady and the Obamabots.

    Original version:
    “This is a violation of my civil rights” she yelled while threateningly waving her walking cane in front of his face.
    “Look you old buzzard, it’s the law. And if you don’t get that stinking cane out of my face, I am going to call the cops and have them put you into an old folks home.”

    Alternate ending:
    The little old lady dropped her old age patience, whipped out a pepper spray from her left side cargo pocket, her cell phone from her right side cargo pocket, and spat, “Buzz off, snot-nose, I know my rights and who to call if you don’t stop hasseling me. I’m here to vote for Hillary Clinton and I’m as tough as she is!”

    She got her ballot. Little old ladies ain’t what they used to be.

  106. djia-

    Thanks!

    Today is a great day to be let in. There are a lot of optimistic vibes goin’ on today.

  107. dedfg,
    Yup! I JUST paid off my Student Loans after getting an MA +30 in music 20 years ago and going into teaching to pay the bills.
    I paid it off just in time to go on short term disability coz of health problems. 😈 And I went to CCNY and the NYC Grad school, not exactly high end facilities. (not the faculty – they were all top-of-the-line). And, like you, i worked all the way through school. Some years I had to take a break to earn money for another couple of semesters. It was worth every penny but yeah, it sure is jarring as he!! to hear MO citing hers and Waffles disadvantaged childhoods.
    Grape – like your ending!
    Pulchitrude – GREAt I mean GREAT work in NC! 😀

  108. thanks basil…I was a bit worried it came across wrong.
    I do feel for those who are still today paying loans, it is difficult….but I do not feel for those like BO who went to Harvard.

    Not only that, he is still paying a student loan but purchased a million dollar house?

  109. Some of us sent our kids to College and paid for it by budgeting. They went to a near by school, and got a few scholarships.

    Those are great schools, but they do leave you in debt, unless your rich. You are right, maybe they should have paid off there student loans before they purchased the Million Dollar House.

    Buffet still lives in the home he purchased many years ago.

    Maybe that shows something about the person having to own a million dollar home before you pay off your student loans.

  110. basil, not that re-reading 1984 does not have its merits, when read voluntarily. But I would hate having to resort to re-reading it just to become more aware of potential similarities between the book and the now. Lord of the flies? How about Star Wars?

    Synopsis

    Anakin Skywalker, played by up-and coming star Barak Obama, is a fatherless youth raised by his mother. His childhood is anything but smooth. He is later discovered by some Liberal Jedi Knights (played by Ted Kennedy and John Kerry) who recognize his unique abilities and is brought into the Jedi Party as an apprentice. Eventually realizing his own power is so strong, he can not wait until his training is complete. The lust for supreme power to mask his insecurities from youth, eventually turns him the Dark Side and he morphs into Darth Vader under the command of the Emperor played by Howard Dean.

    Vader seeks for the only one who has the ability to defeat him, the wife of Prince William, Princes Leah (played by Hillary). They have several encounters but he can not close the deal. She continues to fight on, eventually forming a rebel alliance against the Empire. The Empire strikes back through a series of cunning tricks and traitorous defections to the Empire by previously loyal comrades (played by Richardson).
    But in episode VI, the Princes finally defeats Vader and saves the world from certain ruin.

    Fear leads to anger, anger to hate, and hate to the Dark Side.

  111. – Let’s remember Obama said IND would be a ‘tie-breaker’.

    – Let’s also remember he had a massive lead (and the friendliest of demographics) in NC, and plenty of time to campaign in both states, which according to his side makes him irresistible to voters.

    – Let’s remember not to get sick over exit polls, which have been manipulated beyond belief in these primaries.

    The preceding has been a public service announcement.

  112. Thanks, Blue, for the wise advice.

    I would also recommend staying away from drudge and all the other disinformation sites who have goddess knows what agenda.

  113. Interesting, at First Read Chuck Todd says stop calling seating MI anf FL the “nuclear option”.

  114. After reading the message to the Obama supporters in NC, we can see what a scary situation the country is in now. They really do think they are part of a movement to save the world. No joking aside. New Age Nazis. This is the only way to describe them.

    I am going to bed now in the comfort of knowing that when I arise, there will be a new dawn for America. If I have trouble sleeping, I will just count Hillary votes.

  115. Even Michelle Obama herself. “I’m not supposed to be here,” she tells the crowd. “I am a statistical oddity. As a black girl raised on the south side of Chicago, I’m not supposed to be here. I wasn’t supposed to go to Princeton. They said my test scores were too high” — surely a verbal slip, because in the past she has said she was told her test scores were too low — “I wasn’t supposed to go to Harvard Law School, because they said it might be a little too hard for me. And I certainly am not supposed to be standing here with a chance to become the next first lady of the United States of America.”

    Uhhh, Michelle. I know you ain’t stupid. It’s called Affirmative Action and hardly anyone views it as “raising the bar.”

    I am a strong believer in Affirmative Action in college admissions, but Michelle bellyachin’ about “raising the bar” makes my blood boil.

    And, here’s the ultimate irony. The American public despises affirmative action. It’s one supreme court vote away from being history. So think about this. Obama gets the nomination and loses. McCain wins and appoints a Supreme Court justice who tilts the scales beyond the tipping point and Affirmative Action is outlawed.

    I have to chuckle 92% of African Americans are voting to end Affirmative Action and the DNC is going along.

  116. paddy,

    I’m a big fan of the ‘classics,’ literary and musical. (don’t know much about art).

    So I tend to reread the great authors the same way I would play music of the great composers, especially Bach and Mozart.

    😀

  117. mj,

    I’m gonna email you at hillbill’s, later, if ya don’t mind. Love chatting about writing and seldom find anyone to do it with.

    😀

  118. Obama’s electability problem

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/rezkowatch-factchecker-obamas.html

  119. hwc
    – I think attributing her success to Affirmative Action is a low blow. I don’t know Michelle’s background, but if she really was raised in a poor district with poor schooling and she went to Harvard Law than she should be applauded, the accomplishment is there.

  120. I have a question. Upthread, someone posted a HuffPost article on NC that said Obama wasn’t spending a lot of time in NC. Does that strike anyone else as weird?

  121. lil ole grape: loved your ending to Paddy’s story.

    Like many you, when I read that letter from the Waffles campaign, I felt horror. What brain washing and propaganda by the waffles campaign. I can understand young people getting caught up in it, but older people should know better.

    MO makes my blood boil. She plays the victim card so often, that it has completely sickened me to her. She is one angry and entitled person. I think, she believes everything that Wright epouses.

    Pulch: wonderful story.

  122. OandrewD, she DID get into Harvard on their affirmative action program. That is a fact. Her scores were not high enough – she said it herself.

    I’m not saying she isn’t smart, or did not do well for herself. But I AM saying that she has not one shred of praise for the country that gave her that opportunity.

    Hillary always stresses how grateful she is for all the opportunities this great country gave her. Yes, she mentions the barriers she’s faced as a woman, but her FOCUS is on the opportunities she was given, and how glad she is to have had them. Her approach is positive, on how can we extend those opportunities to a new generation, and expand on them? How can we build on the good that America already offers?

    Michelle CONSTANTLY harps on how nothing this country has given her is ever enough, how it’s all shit in her eyes, and whines and whines about her obstacles, never or rarely acknowledging that she has been given FAR more than most Americans can even dream of.

    Michelle is a freaking nasty, depressing woman. She doesn’t focus on to expanding anything to anyone, she only demands that this country to PROVE to her that we are WORTHY of her bitter ass, by electing her husband.

  123. Oandrew: Michelle grew up in a middle class family. she had a decent education, went to a charter school for the gifted, and was in advanced placement classes. Her father made 42,000 in the 70’s-80’s, which was not too shabby.

  124. I think attributing her success to Affirmative Action is a low blow. I don’t know Michelle’s background, but if she really was raised in a poor district with poor schooling and she went to Harvard Law than she should be applauded, the accomplishment is there.

    She’s the one complaining about how people said she couldn’t go to Princeton because of low test scores. She got into Princeton with low test scores because of Princeton’s affirmative action policies. She knows that. It’s completely bogus for her to be complaining “they (presumably her white oppressor) were saying I couldn’t” when the reality is “they (presumably her white oppressor) were saying she could…”

    I support affirmative action. My kid goes to one of the most diverse colleges on the east coast. I’m all for it. But, damn…what does Michelle Obama want? Does she expect us to wipe her *** too?

  125. NC Democratic party chairman Meeks was on Fox claims that he is neutral but sounded like he is in tank for BO. He predicted a single digit race but a BO win.

  126. GOOD MORNING HILL FANS AND PROUD AMERICANS

    are you guys nervous too??? is it just me???? my heart starts beating faster when i thinkabout results and my stomach ,,,,oh man ,,,i been going to BR q4 hrs,,,,,

  127. michelle is a good person ,,,and thats it

    i lost respect for her when i learned she took her kids to that church and exposed them to that kind of hate

    HILLARY is the best mom

    i lost respect for MICHELLE ,, when she said …black america will wake up in dec 2007 when hill had black support ,,,,,,,,,

    i lost respect for her when she took a cheap shot at hillary by saying ;;;;;;someone who can,t handle her own home ,,how she will run this country;;;;;;;

    and the list goes on and goes on ,,,,

  128. i agree

    lets stop blogging ,,,
    we can blog at night time

    lets make calls

    my goal 200 calls,,,,,

    bye guys,,,,,

  129. What a great race this is!
    She shows her spirit out of the gate, then drops back to view the competition but stays close enough to worry the apparent leader. The odds are against her, though her quality is clear to those who know a champion when they see one. Her fans are loyal, they cheer her on, they believe in her and she knows it, but she takes nothing for granted. She seeks advantage out of every weakness in the favored to win. She learns from every trick employed to take her out. She knows her time is coming, and now she charges toward the finish line showing her full speed and splendor. Her power overwhelms the competition as they go neck and neck .His heart is breaking. He’s dropping behind. Can he overtake her? Her fans are prayerful and breathless. Win, lose or draw, a great horse is an inspiration forever!

  130. B Merry @ 11:01. That link takes us to a great recap of the problems of electability for BHO. Thank you for that, as well as for all of the other great work.

  131. H4T: couldn’t agree more. Hate for my first post of the day to be negative, but it really is the limit.

    So, many, many of the Dem elders are fully aware that Hillary is head and shoulders above her opponent for intelligence, compassion, true grit, and yes, charisma. With or without Bill. On the other hand, they know much of the truth about the Obamas:

    He plays dirty but is not a fighter
    She thinks nothing this country has given her is ever enough
    He looks down on the working class as bitter and “clinging” to guns and religion
    She was never proud of her country in her adult life… until now.
    He consistently has chosen close, personal father figures who hate America for decades of his life.

    Just exactly what about this couple is so “lovely” as the pundits constantly say?

    I’m swamped at work today – I can’t work phones – thanks to everyone here who is phoning for GOTV. Keep the good thoughts. RISE, HILLARY, RISE!

  132. Hi all,

    I am calling. Calling. NC. I dunno. I get so nervous on election day 🙂

    Hope everyone is good.

    If you feel like it my arrticle An Unholy Trinity of Hate from http://www.savagepolitics.com has been posted at Real clear Politics.

    If you feel like taking a wee break from calling you could pop over there and lend it your vote.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but the people I am getting sound overwhelmed and generally pissed off about all the calls. 🙁

  133. I’m logging off from work now as I took 1/2 day off to call for Hill and to watch the primary unfurl on line as I won’t be watching the MSM much today.

    It drives my blood pressure up.
    I just read on TM that a poster said that her daughter who lives in NC (in a small town) said that Bill C is coming back there today.

    If the campaign, imo, is investing this much resources and time in NC even on election day when none of the canidates or surrogates usually campaigns , this tells me that they are working hard tokeep Obama’s #s down and to counter act his White vote fromt he Triangle area and rom the latte liberals.

    Get on the phone guys and call, call, call and report your results here.

    p.s. The big dawg will surely have gained weight this week from eating all that Carolina bar-be-cue.

    One more thing, no handwringing, no doubting, no depressing talk and ABSOLUTELY no eating each other.

    This is a support site and we come here to support each other and to help Hillary get elected so nobody have fights today please.

    Go Hillary!

  134. Response to Newsday column:

    Dear Mr. :

    The only reason that Mr. Obama is ahead in cumulative vote and delegate counts is that the press, enamored of an opportuntity to demonstrate how progressive and erudite they are, refused to report important information about Obama’s associations that reflect his innermost beliefs: his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, mentor and friend William Ayers, political godfather Tony Rezko and others; all self-described as role models, spriritual guides and/or father figures.

    If the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this election, it will be because we passed up the opportunity to nominate the best qualified candidate and alienated hard working American women and men. Enough! Let the Democratic Party try to win this or any future election without the continued support of women.

    Sincerely,

  135. Just checkin in, finals this week and next, but I called last night, and sounds good for Indiana. I think tonight will be an awesome night.

  136. i agree with tiburones, please no nervous hillfans whining defeatist today or tonite. IF YOU FEEL DEFEATIST KEEP IT TO YOURSELVES OR GO TO ANOTHER SITE! WE NEED POSITIVE ENERGY. I AM GONNA MAKE SOME CALLS TO INDIANA AND NC.

  137. hillfans it has been a while since i gave email out. i know a lot of eyes are reading big pink but i will post it. terrondt@aol.com . if any of you have aol i would love to put ya on my buddylist.

  138. Barone says Hillary has been AHEAD in popular vote since PA, by anyone’s count.

    She’s been ahead for quite a while in all votes of 50 states, and in 48 states in votes of Democrats.

  139. When you get fearful, just remember how Fearless Senator Clinton has been. She has so much confidence in her self and us, it is amazing.

    Yes, this is an amazing group of people hanging together out of their respect for Hillary.

    keep your head high, we are going in for the next battle. And then we are going on to KY, WV, OR, MT, PR, and what ever I missed. Oh yes DENVER.

    Senator Clinton will be beside us cheer us all the way.

  140. linfar said:
    If you feel like it my arrticle An Unholy Trinity of Hate …. has been posted at Real clear Politics.

    linfar, do you have a link directly to your article at real clear? I looked on their front page and didn’t see any link to it.

  141. Michelle Obama was not raised in a poor neighborhood with poor schools. Her father was part of the Daley machine and had a good income. They had a fancy house in a good neighborhood. Obama was ‘marrying up’ to get into their family.

    All this was in a UK paper a while back, posted at Taylormarsh.com Hot Topics.

  142. So think about this. Obama gets the nomination and loses. McCain wins and appoints a Supreme Court justice who tilts the scales beyond the tipping point and Affirmative Action is outlawed.

    For that matter, does Obama himself support Aff. Action? I heard it was on the ballot in several southern states where he won primaries, but I never heard of him taking a position on it.

  143. Me too, 1950democrat.

    I’m hearing more and more from my friends out in Indiana. All good news. Like, really good news. I think she’s going to win by 15 points.

  144. For that matter, does Obama himself support Aff. Action? I heard it was on the ballot in several southern states where he won primaries, but I never heard of him taking a position on it.

    Would be an interesting question for one of his fawning supporters in the media to ask, wouldn’t it?

    Maybe Donna Brazille could ask him.

  145. [Clinton’s campaign] also laid out a scenario that has the primary season ending on June 3 with neither major contender having reached the 2,209 mark.

    Huh? Does anyone think that either candidate can reach 2024 by June 3, either?

  146. OAndrew wrote: I think attributing her success to Affirmative Action is a low blow.

    Well, either her test scores were too low or they weren’t. If she got into an Ivy League school with low test scores then it was either through alumni influence (think Bush) or Affirmative Action. Neither is cause for applause because neither is based on merit.

  147. Blue,

    Also pls note the war of semantics going on here.

    Suddenly to follow the DNC rules and procedues — ie for the Rules Committee to vote on a rule question, is ‘going nuclear’ or ‘ramming through’. It’s the Rules Committe that gave Brazile the discretion to go beyond the rules in imposing harsh penalties on MI and FL; the rules called for loss of half delegates. So the Rules Committe has the power to reverse its former decision, or give a ‘punishment’ that does not punish the voters or the candidates.

    Also by the DNC rules, in FL Hillary should get half her delegates (because FL is being punished) and Obama should get NONE of his (because he violated the ‘no campaigning’ agreement).

    See Craig Crawford, “Where the DNC rules actually lead”.

  148. I don’t agree with you that Affirmative Action admittees at Princeton were not based on merit. The merit just happened to be measured in ways other than test scores, as it is for every student admitted to a university like Princeton.

    I have zero problem with Michelle Obama going to Princeton and I have every confidence that Princeton viewed her as a very strong applicant. I’m totally on board with all that.

    What I’m not on board with is her turning around and whining about how “they” (presumbly her white oppressors) kept her down when she went to frickin’ Princeton, for god’s sake…

  149. NYCMax: Ask my husband, an extremely smart, white guy from a family that qualified for food stamps what he thinks about affirmative action. He had very high marks and test scores and wasn’t able to get admission or scholarships to an Ivy League school. He fully paid his way through undergraduate and law school.

  150. Again I ask…if going to Princeton is enough Michelle Obama, what would be enough? Does she expect us to wipe her ***, too? Would that be enough?

  151. 1950Dem be careful with the numbers you choose to present. 2025 is the “magic number” of delegates needed to secure the nomination only if FL/MI delegations remain unseated. The Clinton campaign is apparently committed to the 2,209 number which includes the FL/MI delegations.

    In either case, the only way keep this from going to the convention is to achieve the “magic number” with pledged delegates only, IMO. Pledged delegates are pledged to a candidate for a certain number of rounds of voting. Superdelegates, regardless of who they’ve endorsed are under no such constraint.

    If either candidate had reached the “magic number” without superdelegates, then they’d be the presumptive nominee because they’d be presumed to be able to achieve the nomination in the first round of voting. As Teddy Kennedy showed us in 1984, there is always the chance that pledged delegates won’t vote according to their pledge in the first round, but that’s highly unlikely. SDs switching candidates anytime between now and the convention is not unlikely or even unexpected should the situation warrant a change of position for whatever reason.

  152. paddy said: “Given that there are a finite number of AA NC voters, this could just mean AAs are voting early and not that the pool of AA Obama supporters has increased. ”

    Right, thanks for good sense and a well-written post! Iirc in IN Obama had some really strong GOTV for early voting at or near a university, special polling place and 24-hour shuttle?. That could get a lot of his people to vote early, without increasing his actual pool.

  153. ok…..30 minutes calling IN.
    30 calls

    8 no answer/machine
    5 refuse
    9 hang up
    6 HRC
    1 undecided (how at this point that can be the case, I don’t know)
    0 BO
    1 Repub

    No 30 minutes on NC

  154. Obama probably is emotionally tired and discouraged. His ambition and impatience and carelessness has hurt his church and his pastor, and some of that congregation say his family may not be welcome there in future. This has hurt his wife and children.

    Whatever he may say publically, he must know that a campaign against the GOP would be much worse. And that he can’t win it.

    If he has any sense, he’ll soon be looking for an honorable way to withdraw. His problem now, if he hopes to keep his career alive, may be to get himself out of the line of fire without alienating his supporters. Unless he just wants to damage Hillary and the Dems enough for McCain to win anyway.

  155. 1950’s,

    I was thinking exactly about the same scenario. IF McCain becomes POTUS then the country can say by-by to most social proigrams.

    Ann,

    I feel so guilty about not calling. I tried last week and it just isn’t for me. I run out of air coz of anemia and plus it makes me too nervous. 🙁

    But thanks for your hard work. you, neetabug, Dot, Pulchitrude and everyone else on the front lines. All i can do is donate when I can, send letters, light candles and cheer from the sidelines. 😥

  156. AND THEY SAY HILLARY IS UNELECTABLE, LOL

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/when_compared_to_mccain_voters_trust_clinton_more_than_obama_on_five_key_issues

    When Compared to McCain, Voters Trust Clinton More than Obama on Five Key Issues

    Issues measured this week tend to show Hillary Clinton performing better than Barack Obama when matched against John McCain.

    Immigration

    When it comes to immigration, the Democrats have a four-point lead over Republicans. When asked of specific candidates, voters are evenly split between Clinton and McCain at 36%. However, McCain leads Obama 45% to 38% on this issue. Forty-nine percent (49%) of voters view immigration as a very important issue.

    Health Care

    Nationally, the Democrats have a decisive 52% to 36% lead over Republicans on the issue of Healthcare. Those numbers are similar when the choice is between Clinton and McCain. On this issue, Clinton leads 48% to 34%. Meanwhile, Obama has just a five-point lead over McCain on this issue. Healthcare is a very important issue for 60% of voters.

    Balancing the Federal Budget

    Clinton also enjoys a solid lead over McCain when it comes to balancing the federal budget– 46% of voters trust the former First Lady more, while 38% trust McCain more. McCain leads Obama by three points in this category.

    Negotiating Trade Agreements

    When it comes to negotiating trade agreements, McCain leads Clinton 42% to 37%. McCain holds a wider lead over Obama, 46% to 37%.

    Education

    Nationally, the Democrats have six-point advantage over GOP’s when it comes to the issue of education. Clinton dominates McCain in this category, 51% to 31%. Obama leads the GOP candidate by just five points. Education is considered a very important issue by 61% of American voters.

  157. I was watching Fox while they talked about how Hillary’s campaign portraying herself as a fighter, saying things like “If you can’t take the heat then stay out of the kitchen”, and other stuff is demonstrating how she is tough while painting BHO as weak.

    My reaction is to say:

    Hey, Obamabots, our fighting candidate can beat up your wimpy candidate. Hah!! Right now, politically, your candidate is getting beat up by a girl! Guess which candidate is showing the real cojones?

  158. I was flipping by MSNBC and saw Kerry on this morning. He is sounding increasingly angry and frustrated…and unpleasant. Hillary is derailing the best laid plans to get rid of her and it is killing them. All those bitter elites that wanted to snatch power for themselves went way out on a limb and and that cracking limb will prove to be their downfall.

    All I can say is: It couldn’t happen to more deserving people!

  159. Rassmussen predicting a 9 point win for Obama 49 to 40 (11 undecided), 2 days ago its was a 14 point win 51 to 37.

    Yup that tells me, Rassmussen is worried.

  160. I think we take the high road tonight, the obamabots said anything less than a 25 point win in PA was a loss for HRC, think we should him to the same standard, after all a month ago, he was 30 ahead.

  161. I think the best choice Hillary’s campaign has made was to focus on her as a fighter for the poor and working class. Bravo to them for highlighting that aspect of her character.

  162. Ok some comments from sites about whats happening today

    “Word on the ground the Burbs in NC are tending towards Hillary alot like the Burbs around Philly did.”

    “Hillary is doing extremely well in military areas and rural areas. She may be able to draw it closer than Obama would like in NC”.

    “I have come across more Hillary voters today than I have Obama voters. I live in a rural/suburban county in central NC just south of Greensboro. I have seen many more Hillary signs in this area as well. Places like this should be her strongholds.”

  163. Its coming from repugs and Hill supporters. Apparently the turnout in rural indiana is enourmous from what i hear.

  164. I just want everyone here to know how proud I am of Hillary.

    Also, I want everyone here to know how much I enjoy being part of this community.

    The spirit here has helped me through some dark days .. and I know we’ll be with Hill until the last dawg dies.

    She’s the one we have been waiting for. She’s the one to heal the country.

  165. moon insider advantage thru monday had obama at 47% to hillary 43% in north carolina. all pollling done monday.

  166. Obama’s problems
    Obama is stuck in the same gear (sounds strange for the candidate of change)
    Craig Crawford has wondered why has Obama remained in attack mode against Clinton in Indiana and North Carolina when the same tactic did not work in Pa and says Obama should stop saying he only goes negative after Clinton goes negative because it s not true nobody cares if your gonna do it own and stop crying Uncle.
    Ben Smith says associates are a legitimate issue for Obama and clicking his heels will not make it go away
    As American Gal stated here last nite:
    AmericanGal Says:

    May 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
    Informed in Illinois–here is my list of problematic Obama friends

    Rev. Wright
    Father Pfleger and Rev. Meeks
    William Ayers
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Tony Rezko and his friends
    Rashid Khalidi
    Jodie Evans

    Howard Kurtz writes
    Obama’s aides are suddenly taken aback by the scrutiny is quite astonishing. What do they want rose petals along the way? Toughen up get some fortitude and learn a lesson or two from Senator Clinton who has been dealing with the media for 16 yrs and stop whining.

    This guy is not presidential material and if the Democratic Party is hell bent on makin him the nominee they will surely lose.
    The goal is to elect a president not a nominee.
    The goal is winning.

    Hillary44 2008

  167. Ok….NC

    21 calls….

    9 HRC
    4 no answer
    4 refuse
    4 hang up
    0 BO

    Now I really have to get some work done.

  168. a complete blowout in Indiana will give her more bargaining with the popular vote .. also, remember Obama predicted he’d win in Indiana as well as North Carolina.

    Obama is being unmasked, it’ s ugly and his wife as well. Certain pundits try to paint Hill as the one who feel entitled . well, they ought to really listen to MO. She thinks we all ought to kiss her and waffles hind ends. Not me, never, nor anyone in my family.

    Watch America .. the more you try to shove someone on us, the more we rebel. It’s akin to being taken over by a foregin country. The elite wing of the party is trying to take over and rule every part of our party. We won’t back down…never.

  169. I have this feeling SUSA indiana is going to be on the mark, they said 12, i say 15.

  170. I am raising the bar on Michelle “Your not 1st lady material”
    With all her radical statements sounds familiar to the Wright teachings.

    Obama and Michelle are closeted racist radicals. I have been telling my son that since they cried about the race card being played in SC against Bill Clinton. I am a 53 yr black female and I would never vote for this lying phony nor his ugly wife. Sorry she is not 1st lady material. I am a angry black female sometimes so beleive you me I know one when I see one.

    LMAO

    She always talks like she hates her country or she wants someone to be punished for something DUH.

    Anger is her problem are you suprised after 20yrs of Wright.

    I have never been in a church and heard language like that hell when I go I am trying to get spiritual guidance or maybe he can help me not to curse but I dont need a lesson in cursing and hate could I take my children or grandchildren to hear racist crap like that how responsible would that be what kind of signal would that be for our children.

    Hillary44 2008
    Hillary IN&NC
    And God Bless America

  171. I just had a mischievious thought of one impossible idea that would make pundits heads explode tonight, what if Hillary won NC and Bambi won Indiana.

    It won’t happen but you could see the heads explode.

  172. everyone who will MATCH me 25 calls for the 2 pm hour.

    challenge is out. come on call NC. I’ve had a feeling all day .. come on we can help.

    call if you can .. Hillary is asking us to help her. She’s done so much on her own .. come on BigPink.

    Rah, Rah, Big Pink can do it!

  173. NYCMax Says:
    May 6th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    1950Dem be careful with the numbers you choose to present. 2025 is the “magic number” of delegates needed to secure the nomination only if FL/MI delegations remain unseated. The Clinton campaign is apparently committed to the 2,209 number which includes the FL/MI delegations.

    In either case, the only way keep this from going to the convention is to achieve the “magic number” with pledged delegates only, IMO.

    NYC, I agree with most of your post. 2024/2025, I’ve seen it both ways. I think the point we should be emphasizing, at least in short comments in media, is that NEITHER candidate can get even the 2024/2025 without some superdelegate votes.

    Hillary doesn’t need to be ‘committed’ to the 2209 number in order to make that point.

  174. 1950 dem said

    “Hillary doesn’t need to be ‘committed’ to the 2209 number in order to make that point.”

    I believe Hillary is putting the 2209 out there because she believes FL and MI will be seated and when that happens
    BO will get more delegates…..so by going back to the original 2209 goal it puts that post out further for him
    as when he gets more delegates he would be dangerously close to 2024.

    so it is the goal post we should be throwing about (2209)

  175. Oh, okay. I was trying to post this really awesome picture of Hillary Clinton with Natalie Portman. She’s for our Hillary, and I’m a big fan of hers. Have you all seen it?

  176. 1950democrat
    From what I hear the black community may be waking up as far as Obama is concerned the media wants you to beleive that there will be rioting if he is not the nominee but some in the AA community are starting to feel used by The Great One.

    He is the black candidate who saw fit not to go to Memphis for the anniversary of MLK”S death he choose to be in Indiana to remind us of RFK who was in Indiana at the time and had poor John MCcain standing in the rain getting booooo’s from mostly a black crowd trying to make amends for Arizona not making MLK day a holiday.

    And he also has TAvis Smiley and Cornel West upset about him not attending The State Of The Black Union (whatever that is).

    He turns the other cheek when Clinton’s black supporters are harrassed, threatened and called uncle toms or fall in line or face primary changes I heard John Lewis was threatend in his district by a much younger person that the party had picked up.

    Obama when he was in the State Senate his district was full of Rezko’s properties which are boarded up which Rezko ran into the ground being a master slum lord and we wont go into crime in his district.

    And lately his statements on the police trial in NY To imply that blacks would resort to violence:

    “We’re a nation of laws, so we respect the verdict that came down,” Mr. Obama told reporters here on the campaign trail in Indiana. “Resorting to violence to express displeasure over a verdict is something that is completely unacceptable and is counterproductive.”

    Al Sharpton took offense to these remarks when there has been no evidence of such happening.

    Obama has made himself into a black man only when it is convenient for him and when he wants to make white people happy suddenly he is biracial like he does all the time reminding everyone about his biracial DNA “Dont be scared of the black man Im half white too”

    Crazy as Wright he felt like he and his church had been used by Obama and soon the AA community will realize this. Because this is starting to happen as we speak. Some of Wright’s parrishioners have started to speak out and said that Obama is not welcome at thier church anymore because what we saw of Wright is the Wright that they see every Sunday.

    While masquerading as the unity candidate he uses the threat of violence an riots to intimidate the larger white society into voting for him and the SD’s into giving him the nomination thus holding them hostage.

    As Charles Krauthammer stated on Brit Hume’s show yesterday “Anyone who has been around the block and anyone but the very young know enough not to buy Obama’s weak self serving excuses.

    No I dont think the AA community will riot for Obama and yes they will come around and vote for the Democratic candidate come November.
    And for him to make black people out to be the “angry people” when he is married to an “Angry Black Woman” and had an “Angry Black Pastor” for 20yrs maybe he know’s angry people better than we think.

  177. CHEcK THIS OUT! (from TM about half an hour ago)!

    someone posted this on Hill’s blog—do not know more than what was posted—Keep calling everyone

    NORTH CAROLINA CALLS

    EXIT POLLS have Hillary within Obama’s reach in NC!!!!!!!

    Less than 2% points separate the two as of now in NC!

  178. 2024 is half the delegates 2025 is half the delegates +1 …

    We agree that what is important is that neither candidate can reach any magic number without superDs. My only point is that by emphasizing 2209 as the target, the Clinton campaign is firming up their committment to seating the FL/MI delegations and strengthing her case should the Obama media choose to try to confuse the issue by suggesting that the lower threshhold is the target.

    Delegate counts are confusing to begin with, and most laypeople don’t understand the subtlties that make SuperDs different from pledged Ds. I think it’s a good idea for the Clinton people to focus attention on how resolving FL/MI affects “the Math.”

    Here is some USAToday reporting on the Clinton position:
    blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/05/2025-clinton-ca.html?csp=34

  179. About Obama’s ILlinois gas tax holiday. Obama voted for it three times before he decided he was against Hillary’s. Maybe because Hillary’s includes making up the lost funds by a tax on the oil companies, and Obama’s favored the oil companies?

    From a discussion at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5832846
    the only scientific study done on the pass-through of the tax holiday savings to Illinois consumers (and those in Indiana, as well, whose citizens enjoyed a similar holiday) found that it actually worked to a large extent.

    The study is titled “$2.00 Gas! Studying the Effects of a Gas Tax Moratorium,” by Joseph J. Doyle Jr. and Krislert Samphantharak. Download the PDF here. The authors concluded that “the suspension of the 5% sales tax led to decreases in retail prices of 3% compared to neighboring states. And when the tax was reinstated, retail prices rose by roughly 4%.”

    This suggests that the tax holiday delivered at least 60 percent of the tax savings to motorists.

    SOOOO MUCH MORE AT: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/05/06/gas_tax /

  180. basil9 – Wow really?! The working class voters don’t get to vote until they get off work, and they’ll all be for Hillary, so I bet she’s going to pull off a win with this thing if that’s true. It’ll be such an upset for BHO! Poor guy.

  181. 1950democrat – He claimed on (maybe NBC? I don’t remember, because it was somebody else, NOT ME, who had it in the background) that he voted for it in Illinois and now is voting against it because he saw his previous mistake. Only he is allowed to make mistakes, and then “learn” from them and expect to be forgiven by the voters, I guess? What a joke!

  182. Hey,

    Wveryone. Here is a toll free number for the DNC. Someone is actually picking up and typing up your comments.

    1-877-336-7200

    Give em hell on Mi and Fla

  183. marie,
    As someone who worked with LOTS of angry black women, some of who turned out to be great friends, I must say it can be very intimidating but once you get to know one another most dropped what i concluded was often a security mask. There’s a time and place for anger. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only song MO knows and it’s especially offputting considering what her privileged background was. Just as there are JAPS, and WASPS, there are plenty of BAPS, too.

    If AA’s vote for HRC even by 20-30%, i will be so proud, not because I’m white, but because it will send a signal to the country that being an American trumps one’s ethnic background. GO HRC!!!!

  184. Did any of you guys read about how Penn (of Penn and Teller) pretty much called Hillary a b**** on MSNBC this morning! Of COURSE it was MSNBC. They probably knew he was going to do it before hand and then pretended they were against it.

    It was on Joe Scarborough’s show, and he is usually very anti-BO (unlike the rest of that channel).

    I don’t think Penn supports BO. He probably supports the Republicans or something (or maybe Ron Paul). But he saw Hillary as an easier target because he’s a huge misogynist.

    When a caller from a radio station says something like that, the radio station has to pay fines to the FCC right? MSNBC should be held accountable for the comments of that sexist fat pig!

  185. I have had a rough few days, my husband had a mild stroke on Friday, B-day party for my 2-Y.o. granddaughter on Saturday, clean, cook and take care of my 39week pregnant, bed bound daughter on Sunday, Monday had to take her to the doctor and go to work. I am exhausted, and sounding like BO.LOL! I had every intention of making calls over the weekend, but too much to do. Now I am waiting for my pregnant daughter to call me, her B/P is going way up, I am just to nervous about her to be able to concentrate on trying to win over voters. I am a wreck, between by daughter and husband! I am lurking her to take my mind off her and praying and lighting candles for Hillary!

  186. There are no exit polls out yet so please don’t fall for any you have seen over the internet.

  187. They do exit polls updated 3 times during the day, morning, late afternoon and just before polls close.

    They have an idea of what ways its going.

  188. confloyd,
    Hang in there. Sounds like you’ve had your hands full. How is your hubby? Best wishes to him.
    I’ve been supervising the electrician and checking blogs. HRC’s blog is JAMMING! Energy there is very high. Here’s another positive report about NC.
    “Hi Hillary’s family,I just read that NC it is only 5%:
    Public Policy Polling has Obama ahead here by 10. But Clinton’s internal polls show the lead at only five. And they’re holding Bill Clinton in reserve here – just in case she pulls off the upset. Bubba would love to give that speech.”

    I hope our girl will pull off in NC.

    God Bless

    by vijihill at 5/6/2008 2:39:14 PM

  189. like all year i have been stating, DO NOT TRUST THE EXITS! i painfully remember 2000 and election afternoon in 2004 when it had kerry winning nationwide, ohio, and florida. they are crap!

  190. Hey gang, voting here in South Bend has been very light. Hopefuly there has been early voting. It is 3:00 . and only 100 people have voted acrcoss the street.

  191. hallow Says:

    May 6th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    basil9 – Wow really?! The working class voters don’t get to vote until they get off work, and they’ll all be for Hillary, so I bet she’s going to pull off a win with this thing if that’s true. It’ll be such an upset for BHO! Poor guy.

    The polls close at six here which sucks.

  192. New article up which repeats what has already been said in these comments, and what we all know wins elections – work.

  193. dot48 Says:

    May 6th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
    neeta .. are there more polling places for South Bend other than the one you are at?

    Yes we have people going out to check to see how many has voted., In the AA neighborhoods voting is light also Will keeip you up to date when they get back with their results

  194. im calling aa folks w/activate. people are torn. some say they dont know if thy will vote. some are for hil.

  195. OBAMA campaign breaking the law inside Indiana polling locations in Indiana today!

    Just got in and picked this up over at no quarter:

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/obama-shenanigans-does-this-l ook-legal-to-you/#more-2412

    Obama supporters with campaign literature inside polling locations in Indiana.

    This is NOT legal!

    I bet they are doing this in North Carolina as well.

    Spread the word! The state of Indiana needs to know about this ASAP!
    Is this legal

  196. marie3548 Says:

    May 6th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    OBAMA campaign breaking the law inside Indiana polling locations in Indiana today!

    Just got in and picked this up over at no quarter:

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/obama-shenanigans-does-this-l ook-legal-to-you/#more-2412

    Obama supporters with campaign literature inside polling locations in Indiana.

    This is NOT legal!

    I bet they are doing this in North Carolina as well.

    Spread the word! The state of Indiana needs to know about this ASAP!
    Is this legal

    Send this to the Hillary campaign

  197. I have a question, I was listening to POTUS 08 on XM Radio, they were saying that 17% of the electorate(sp) did early voting in NC (I beleive it was 17%, but it was a large percentage ). Who does that benefit, Hillary or Obama??

  198. confloyd

    {{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}

    You and your family along with Hillary and her family are in my

    thoughts and prayers

  199. Confloyd
    Bless your heart. Thinking of you. And praying for you husband daughter. Fellow txn

    A hillary win(s) would be a much welcomed dose of comfort for you right now. No kidding

  200. U saw that huh HillBilly!

    NC exits showed 48% combined said Rev Wright was either very important of somewhat important, and broke overwhelmingly for HRC.

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